in Cambridge buildings Cambridge Polymer Labs English Share Fallout 4 location Cambridge Polymer Labs Site map marker Cambridge Polymer Labs part of Cambridge Other actors creatures Feral ghoul Glowing one robots Machine gun turrets Molly Other quests Cambridge Polymer Labs Underground Undercover Technical cell name CambridgePolymerLabsExt CambridgePolymerLabs01 interior ref id 0000e428 000560ee interior terminal entries Cambridge Polymer Labs terminal entries Maps Cambridge Polymer Labs is a location in the Commonwealth in 2287 Contents show Background Cambridge Polymer Labs was created as a result of the research of three CIT graduate students Jon Elwood Ericka ElwoodWoolum and Wilfred Bergman The company worked in defense solutions and research for the military Jon Elwood became the director of the facility and was married to Ericka Woolum The company had been working on a new piece of power armor before the bombs fell They were on a military contract to produce this power armor for soldiers fighting in the war When the bombs were dropped Jon Elwood was told by the military that only essential personnel would be given a military escort to safety Because of this he locked the scientists including his wife into their labs until the project was completed If the team was able to complete the project Elwood would have reached out to his contact in the military and received a safe escape Unfortunately he kept every scientist besides his wife out of the loop with what had truly transpired above them fearing that it would send them into a panic and they would be unable This act of deception widened conflicts between the scientists and ultimately led to the deaths of a portion of the research team and the ghoulification of the remainder Layout Main lobby When first entering the polymer labs directly to the left is the orientation room where Molly briefs the Sole Survivor on a job acquired in the quest Cambridge Polymer Labs Before entering the orientation room the male and female restrooms are located to the right To the right lies a passage that brings the player character to the clean room and allows access to the rest of the facility Behind the service desk is a storage area and a door to the right of the player character This door brings the player character upstairs to more storage areas to the immediate right of the top of the staircase as well as an office location to the far left of the second floor In the center of the 2nd floor is Research area The research area has a layout like a vault On the first floor as well as the second floor the Sole Survivor will find several numbered samples containers for the Cambridge Polymer Labs quest A glowing one can be found in a highly irradiated area near the northernmost section of the first floor This is also the location of the U238 also needed for the quest Cambridge Polymer Labs There is a polymer coating applicator machine that can combine polymers and isotopes on the first floor after radioactive decontamination Isotopes and polymers can be found throughout the area From room C1 a passageway has been made along ventilation pipes to the other side of the labs in order to gain access to the locked room C3 holding the radioactive containment password At the end of the pipe system Ericka ElwoodWoolum s skeletal remains are found Experiment samples numbers names Sample number Name ID 11317 Hydrochloric acid 0009bc88 3111 Lithium hydride 000a50f7 413 Gallium 000a018c 49 Cobalt 000a0190 611 Gold 000a50f5 65 Tungsten 000a018e A Piezonucleic power armor can be created once by combining U238 with Sample 611 Gold and Sample 3111 Lithium hydride Notable loot Massachusetts Surgical Journal issue 6 In the directors office Master locked door on the second floor next to a computer terminal Key to the room can be obtained from Molly VaultTec lunchbox When entering the building head straight back to the wall and on the right one will find it on the counter Piezonucleic power armor Reward for completing the experiment Hazmat suit In the southwesternmost room Room immediately left of room C4 on the first floor of the room where the player character first encounters the feral ghouls Fusion core In the west corner of the directors office on the second floor within a display case Research Samples Unidentified sample 49 cobalt 2nd floor the room room C1 on the east catwalk on the desk with the skeleton wearing the trilby hat Unidentified sample 611 gold 2nd floor the room off of the collapsed west catwalk on the desk next to the active computer terminal Unidentified sample 11317 hydrochloric acid In the first room on the polymer coating applicator machine Unknown sample 3111 lithium hydride In the same room as the hazmat suit just south of room C4 Unidentified sample 413 gallium In the firstfloor room room C4 directly across from the room with the polymer coating applicator Unidentified sample 65 tungsten In the northwesternmost first floor room The Sole Survivor need to go through the room with unidentified sample 413 to get there U238 can be found in the isotope containment chamber One can unlock it via the terminal in C5 which can be accessed via room C4 one can confirm which room is which by reading room numbers on the walls The isotope containment chamber is the room immediately to the left of room C2 or rather its the room immediately to the right of the staircase if facing said staircase Be sure to have RadXRadAwaya hazmat suit before entering as there will be a glowing one inside as well Across the radioactive pond there is a shelf that has a single test Suicide note Next to the skeleton of Tom Franklin on the 2nd floor in the research area The skeleton wears a hat a pair of sunglasses and is next to a teacup and a box of rat poison Radioactive containment password holotape on the counter in room C3 Gives access to the isotope containment terminal in the room below it C5 Related quests Cambridge Polymer Labs Underground Undercover Notes Depending on ones answer to Mollys interview they may receive different items according to their job title The janitor will receive a jumpsuit and a mop sales will receive dirty tan suit and a pen research personnel will receive a lab coat and battered clipboard and security personnel will receive dirty army fatigues patrolman sunglasses and a baton If the speech check is failed you are assigned as a lab assistant and you receive a lab coat and a battered clipboard One will not be able to drop the samples after the quest Cambridge Polymer Labs ends The solution is to ask a companion to inspect the reagent in the tube then Inspect Chemical Reagent will appear You can then place another reagent in the tube while the first reagent is still in the tube Keep asking your companion to inspect the tube then place another reagent in the tube until all reagent quest items are removed from your inventory A player character can use the computer to identify each sample by placing each sample in the tube but despite one sample being called gold it can not be used in crafting There is only one correct combination placed into the Polymer Coating Applicator that produces any result Lithium hydride gold and U238 Any other combination will cause an error message on the terminal and will produce nothing Cambridge polymer labs is a good source of crystal which can be found in microscopes An eyebot can be met in the wasteland playing recordings of recruitment ads for the Labs If one fast travels to Cambridge Polymer Labs and runs along the road on the left until reaching a lawn mower and returns back a random encounter will appear every time Eventually random encounters will stop spawning here as there are only a limited amount that will spawn before stopping like at every random encounter location During the orientation Molly will state that the lab assisted in creating Liberty Prime which was vital in the defense of Anchorage However in Fallout 3 terminal entries state that Liberty Prime wasnt even ready when they were taking back Anchorage meaning that Liberty Prime was never in Anchorage Appearances Cambridge Polymer Labs appears only in Fallout 4 Behind the scenes Cambridge Polymer Labs does advanced research for the United States military In real life this work would be for the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency DARPA However in Fallout it is called the Defense Experimental Research Projects Initiative or DERPI Bugs Sometimes if one drops a research sample there is a chance that it will Despawn and be replaced with a floating object labeled NONE verified Gallery Front desk Directors office Labs Lab room Polymer coating application machine Reactor Massachusetts Surgical Journal magazine Suicide note and unidentified sample 49 Radioactive containment password in room C3 U238 in the containment chamber Unidentified sample 611 and Bergmans password on the terminal Unidentified sample 3111 Unidentified sample 11317 Unidentified sample 413 Unidentified sample 65 Add an 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10 Famous Authors Fascinating Alter Egos By Kim Parker May 27 2012 Write what you know This piece of clichéd but sage advice is the basis for some of the most acclaimed novels in history Some simply explore their native milieu and insert a fictional plot while others write a roman à clef skirting the border of fiction and reality Roman à clefFrench for novel with a key is a fancy term for a fictional story based on real life Its a pervasive form and secrets itself among our beach books The Devil Wears Prada and heavy literature The Bell Jar alike Its not surprising that most writers explore their own lives often with the aid of a parallel self much like the famous artists who also employ alter egos Authors may choose to veil their alter egos with differing qualities or let their true selves shine through Which of your favorite characters is secretly the author Find out in our list of famous writers alter egos after the jump Nick Adams Ernest Hemingway Ernest Hemingway wrote about his life through the eyes of his alter ego Nick Adams in twentyfour pieces of fiction They were collected into a book The Nick Adams Stories in 1972 and cover a large chunk of Hemingways life from his childhood in Michigan through his adult wartime experiences One of the stories The Killers inspired two Hollywood feature films and Andrei Tarkovskys first short film AS Byatt Charles Bukowski Ernest Hemingway John Updike Kurt Vonnegut Philip Roth Roberto Bolano Stephen Elliott Sylvia Plath Willa Cather

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139 GREENE STREET SoHo MAX GORDON CORNER Greenwich Village GOODBYE EAGLE CLOTHES Breaking ForgottenNews The giant Eagle Clothes sign a hallmark of the west Brooklyn skyline is being dismantled so that a couple of more floors can be built on its parent building at 3rd Avenue and 6th Street now a UHaul distributorship According to UHaul parts of the sign will be reinstalled on the building when the extra two floors are completed From FNYs neon billboards page Eagle was one of the many haberdasheries that succumbed to more casual living during the Swingin Sixties As more men began to eschew suits jackets and ties during all but strict business hours clothing manufacturers had to adapt or die One by one Weber Heilbroner Rogers Peet Robert Hall all succumbed Many of their ads can still be found too in faded ads on buildings in and surrounding Manhattans Garment District The biggest remnant of the era when all men wore hats is right here by the Gowanus Canal Casual dress for work reached its apogee in the late 1990s with the rise of tech dotcom companies but since those have collapsed and theres more of an emphasis on traditional business maybe there will again be a need for companies like Eagle Clothes as people wear suits to work again Then again maybe not And now the sign says a last farewell 72413 Categorized in One Shots 139 GREENE STREET SoHo MAX GORDON CORNER Greenwich Village 3 Responses to GOODBYE EAGLE CLOTHES Anthony Prego says November 24 2015 at 242 I have fond memories of that sign as my Grandfather used to work for Eagle Clothes My mother used to take me down there to wait for my grandfather to get out of work then we would go home Duane E Patterson says October 29 2018 at 106 Rod Sterlings suits he wore on Twilight Zone were made by Eagle Clothes Roccotool says May 22 2017 at 1050 Actors wore Eagle Clothes in the Twilight Zone episodes

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Tech Privacy Google Is Now Under Investigation After Oracle Accused It of Secretly Tracking Android Users By David Meyer May 15 2018 The longrunning feud between Google and Oracle has officially spilled over into the techprivacy debate with Oracle prompting an Australian investigation into Googles alleged tracking of Android phone users The Australian competition and privacy regulators are jointly looking into Oracles allegations that Android phones quietly tell Google where users are located even if they have location services turned off and even if there is no SIM card in the device These allegations first surfaced in November media reports While the source of the information was not disclosed at the time security expert Ashkan Soltaniformerly the Federal Trade Commissions chief technologistclaimed Oracle had disseminated the story and had been trying to do so for months Oracle has now openly repeated the allegations in a presentation to the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission ACCC which is probing Google and Facebooks impact on the advertising marketspoiler they own it Oracle also said Android devices sent Google detailed information on peoples searches and surfing Crucially Oracle claimed all of these surreptitious data transfers add up to about a gigabyte per month for which the user has to pay We are exploring how much consumers know about the use of location data and are working closely with the Privacy Commissioner the ACCC said in a statement The Office of the Australian Information Commissioner said it was making inquiries with Google Google which has been fighting Oracle in court for years over the code used in Android hit back at its nemesis by pointing out that Oracle is a major player in the behindthescenes trafficking in peoples data Google is completely focused on protecting our users data while making the products they love work better for them Users can see what data is collected and how its used in one easy place My Account and control it all from there Google said Like many of Oracles corporate tactics this presentation is sleight of hand not facts and given that Oracle markets itself as the worlds biggest data broker they know it Any location data that is sent back to Google location servers is anonymized and is not tied or traceable to a specific user the company added Oracle declined to respond to Googles parry SPONSORED FINANCIAL CONTENT You May Like Read More

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Frogmans Guide to Silver in World of Tanks POPULAR First if the moderators feel this should be located in another forum location please feel free to move it Over the past few months I have seen many many many people post both here as well as on my clan forums with comments about having lack of Silver Many people seem to have troubles with silver management I would like to share my own personal thoughts and strategies on the subject in hopes that my personal strategies will benefit someone In this thread I will be discussing both the incredibly obvious and well as some of the not so obvious ways in which peoplepreviously myself included burn through Silver without noticing and then wonder why they are always broke I am NOT an English major so there may be some spelling errors or perhaps a few long winded sentences as well as a liberal injection of my own personal brand of witticisms and humor I realize some of my humor may not be appreciated by some but I ask that you stick with me and try to pick up nuggets of wisdom attempting to be imparted If there are those who wish to comment or provide some helpful criticism that would assist in readability please feel free to comment and your thoughts will be considered And with that I Silver Production The Mechanics Joining a battle Yes you get a small amount of silver just by the act of entering a battle This is a small flat bonus which scales by tank Tier and should really be seen as icing on the cake ie if this is your only action you will be very broke for a long time Spotting a tank for the First time Yep you get a bit of Silver just for being the first to see an enemy tank Double the amount if its an artillery piece However this amount is very small so again it can not be counted on as your primary income source Base Capture This method of earning silver provides a very small flat bonus to EACH person within the base when it is captured Damaging the Enemy This is your NUMBER 1 means of earning silver and should be one of your primary goals in the game Victory The Joining a battle bonus is multiple by 185 This is quite small bonus so really is nothing that will drastically increase you Silver production Againits just icing on the cake Tank Coefficient Each tank in the game has a hidden number which affects its Silver production incomeie the tank YOU are playing So two different tier V tanks that both did 100 damage to the exact same enemy tank and no other actions have the potential to earn difference Silver payments Premium tanks almost always have a vastly higher Coefficient compared to normal tanks Earning Silver the Details Do damage as much as you can If you want silver you should continue to seek out enemy tanks you can shoot as long as you remain alive with the exception of the goal of capping to win when you feel you must to secure a victory Sitting in a corner somewhere will not earn you extra silverI promise Doing damage is the single thing that you can do within the game that will drastically increase your Silver earnings The fact is that the more damage you do the more Silver you will earnhowever as we will discuss later there is overhead that will reduce your NET With that said here is where it gets a bit complicated because not all damage is the equal The current game mechanics provide different Silverand XP for that matter amounts depending upon WHAT you damage So for example if you are in a Tier V tank and you do 100 damage to a Tier III tank you will earn less Silver than if you had done the exact same 100 damage to a Tier VII tank There are those who prefer capturing the enemy base as a means of winning the game however due to both the Silver and XP potential I will rarely capture an enemy base unless that is the only means of victory within the battle In cases where I finish an engagement I use the back button and plot the shortest route to the next engagement in an attempt to deal more damage and thus get more Silverand XP EVEN if it appears at first glance that I would not make it before the enemy is destroyed or someone might be capturing Likewise in the case of hopeless situations such as your team was slaughtered on the other side of the map and its not a 7 on 1 against you I will not suicide my tank and will continue looking for something to shoot and to which I can attempt to deal damage It really does not matter what tank or what tier it is the fight is not over until the enemy kills me themselves On a side note not giving up can be rewarded with a bit of luck and skill with a nice shiny Koblanovs Medal and I Purchase a Premium Tank Remember above when I talked about the Tank Coefficient Coefficient is a fancy word for multiplieryou can think of it like that its can be a bit more complicated in the actual formula but this is the easiest word for most people to understand to get the general concept And the fact is that Premium tanks have a larger multiplierthough they are not all the SAME multiplier Premium tanks can earn you a GREAT deal of Silver income in a short amount of time As an example I have an IS6 which is a Tier VIII premium Russian tank I typically get an average games where I earn 75K Silver per match I have had matches where I NET as much as 175k with Premium timewhich we will talk about in a bit Though it is POSSIBLE I rarely lose money in my IS6yep I have crap games sometimes and occasionally I even get a streak of them You have to try really really hard to lose money in an IS6 when played even close to correctly With that said the IS6 is NOT A MONEY PRESS i t is still contingent upon you actually going out and doing damage Out of my almost 400 games in the IS6392 games and 078 of all games played I have been in the red approximately 10 times WITH premium and approximately 20 times without premium I wont discuss which specific Premium to buy as I really dont know I will caution you though to not purchase a high tier premium tank when your skills dont support play in its tier Not only are you not realizing the full benefit of the tank but you are also being an active drain upon your fellow teammates I realize that there are people who cant or wont spend real world money on a free game though so please read on as there are plenty of other strategies that will help both you and well as those who do financially support WGA Purchase Premium Time This really depends greatly upon the amount of time spent playing WoT If you play quite infrequently then purchasing premium time is likely not worth it for your However I would hazard a guess that most people who read the forums have at least some dedication to the game and play as much as they are able One word of note here Premium Time is a Subscription service you pay for a block of real world time and it will never be paid for by time used Be warned This is critical for someone who buys one day and then For example consider a tank special where you get a premium tank and 3 days of Premium time It would be exceptionally silly to purchase the tank 30 minutes before you are to leave for a week long vacation as the premium time will run out and be used Your best value in this situation would be where you will have a substantial amount of time available to play the game and put the purchased premium time to its best possible use Note that Premium time purchases are similar to many other economies of scale in todays world The larger the block of time you purchase at a single time the less you pay per time unit If you have the means to purchase the largest possible unitright around 1 year it will provide you with the cheapest per hour charge so to speak Again as mentioned above there are plenty of people who cant or wont spend money so please continue to read on I provide the paid options near the top because quite frankly they ARE the best possible methods Take advantage of Special Events WGA frequently have special events that can increase Silver production These typically take the form of something like 50 Silver earned increase on German and Russian tank Tier IIV 30 Silver Earned increase on German and Russian tank Tier VIVII 25 Silver Earned for upon earning the following Medals XXX Check each day the News to see if there is a special event which can earn you extra silver For example if there is an event that increases Silver gain for all Tier V vehicles on a weekend forgo playing your Tier VIII and play more of your Tier V during the event time period This can really help you generate more silver Likewise many times events had DISCOUNTS on certain Tier thank If you were going to purchase a specific tank anyway take advantage of that special HOWEVER please make sure to carefully read below Remember just because something is on sale that does not mean you need to buy it On the FLIP SIDE its very important that you do NOT SELL any tanks that are part of the special events When a Tank is offered for purchase for a discounted price then the sell price is reduced by the exact same amount Add to that fact that all tanks only net you 50 of the original purchase price and selling a particular tank that is discounted during the event is a want to lose MASSIVE amounts of silver especially at the higher tier If you are following my guide principles you can wait a few additional days as you already have enough to purchase the new tank you just unlocked and still hold onto the old tank for a few additional days until its not longer on sell and maximize your Silver losses Spending Silver Buying tanksUpgrading packages This is why most people play the game Some want to get to specific tanks and work toward that goal Others want to have all tanks unlocked at some pointthats me Regardless most people will at some point buy some different tanks from the one they start with I will detail what I see as both positive and negative approaches Many people I have encountered who have issues with Silver have lots of tanks in their garage and they are actively playing every single one In my humble opinion this is a mistaken approach if you are already having issues with Silver reserves This is made even worse by those who have purchased additional garage slots either individually or via a parking pass block Personally I recommend having 23 tanks on which you can grind hard I also suggest staggering these tanks by at least one tier and perhaps 2 for a less adept player The issue is that upgrading Another thing I see people do is purchase child tank as soon as they have completed the research on it and its been made available Again this is a poor strategy for someone who is already running on low Silver reserves My personal approach is to complete research on a tank and then continue to play the tank for multiple days or in a few cases weeks I tend to play a tank for approximately 350 games more than required to get the tank to Elite There are a few exceptions to this rule though as there are some tanks Following this approach has multiple benefits For one it allows you to continue to hone your skills before you advance to higher Tier play Secondly and more germain it allows you to build your Silver reserves to the point that you have more than enough Silver to purchase the new tank fully equip it and purchase a crew WITHOUT being forced to sell the child tank to do so My personal rule of thumb here is that I must have a minimum of THREE times the purchase price of the tank and all equipment and consumables before I consider the purchase Another benefit that I enjoy is the challenge of trying to obtain the 99 Mastery badge in most of my tanks Some I can get within the normal play while others I got after the tank was Elite and a fewthat I tried hard for I was just not able to easily obtain always coming up around 100200 XP short Still its a goal I strive for because I am anal My point being Slow down the tanks are not going anywhere and will be there Personally I have roughly 18 garage slots with 4 of those free Out of that I have perhaps 3 tanks that I am grinding on and the rest are Elite between tiers 28 Special Note One of the worst offenders in this category is the WG Tech Tree Specialsto be superseded by Path to X event Stop just dont Unless you are ready to give up a line for a good long while to start a new one dont even bother with the Tech Tree specials They will eat through your Silver reserves This is ESPECIALLY true if your garage is small and you have to sell a tank to make room because sold tanks only net you HALF of the original cost I used to chase them for the first 2 months I stopped As mentioned above though make 100 sure you do not see the old tank if it also is part of the special as you will lose massive amounts of Silver Just purchase the new tank keep the old tank and sell the old tank after the event ends Equipment There are two types of equipment that can be put onto a tank Simple and Complex Simple equipment generally costs much less and more importantly can be removed and will gain your full silver price payed back Complex equipment on the other hand typically is quite expensive price scales depending upon tier but consider 500K in the VIIIs and can not be sold without spending Gold to dismount first Spending Gold will allow you to recoup the entire purchase price of the equipment It is critical to note you should dequip all equipment PRIOR to selling a tank IMHO if you have limited money supplies keeping a bit of Gold around solely for this purpose will save you an inordinate amount of Silver as you progress through that tank Tiers Some people drastically underestimate the impact having the right equipment on the right tank can have but I highly recommend each of you to always put appropriate equipment on every tank you plan to grid as it really does assist in keeping you in the fight longer and thus able to generate more Silver in the long run Each tank has different equipment that is optimal for use As a general rule I would suggest most people not purchase equipment for tiers III or lower unless its a tank you plan to keep andor play often Consumables This includes things such the critical ones such as Repair Kit First Aid Fire Extinguisher etc as well as Premium Ammo and Premium Consumables In general I equip AT LEAST Repair Kit First Aid and Fire Extinguisher on most tanks I own However with that said some such as the Fire Extinguisher are FAR more important on certain tanks than others For example many German tanks have a much increased chance of catching fire and thus you need to do your research as there are many tanks I would never even dream of leaving the garage without a Fire Extinguisher There are also Premium versions which appear to cost Gold but can be purchased with Silver instead The Premium versions cost 20k each but in addition to the one time use as long as they are NOT used they provide a potential static boost For example a Large Repair Kit provides a permanent decreaseie it takes less time in the time to repair modules as long as you dont use the primary benefitimmediate repair A premium Fire Extinguisher decreases the chance of fire in the first place as well as speeds fire fighting when a fire does occur Alternately some tanks generally by nation have other consumables which are also equipable Things such as Chocolate Case of Cola etc These also cost either Gold OR 20k Silver These items typically provide a boost to all crew skills for the duration of the battle and USED immediately when the battle starts In most cases I would typically suggest avoiding these items except on specific occasions for example if you have an Elite vehicle and are trying to get an elusive 99 Mastery badge and want a bit extra umph However I would never suggest using these items unless you have and extreme surplus of Silver to burn Finally there is Premium or goldquot Ammo for most tanks this is either APCR or in some cases HEAT or HESH Many people shy away from premium ammo on the theory that a it costs to much andor b that it makes you less of a tanker IMHO neither of those are true statements Many people STILL dont know that gold ammo can be purchased with Silver but on average it is 4 times more expensive than AP ammo that comes standard The key is in knowing WHEN to use premium ammo For example if APCR costs 4 times the amount of your AP ammo but you bounce 5 shots which is would have benefitted you more to use A big part of this is knowing the tank you are in and the tanks you are facing Each premium ammo has different characteristics which you must study to understand their strengths and limitations For example APCR has higher penetration compared to standard AP ammo however it drops penetration over distances so you typically do NOT want to shoot APCR at someone 500 meters away I typically carry a load out of 34 HEHigh Explosives and then 2030 APCRor HEAT or HESH as the case may be and the remainder in standard AP ammo In general knowing the target you are facing your guns penetration and the targets armor will help you decide when to switch to premium ammo or not As a general rule though you would typically never shoot premium ammo at a lower tier tank and would consider it when facing a higher tier tank Also in most cases armor is weaker on sides or rear and premium is generally less needed A situation where I will switch to APCR in a hurry is when I am facing multiple opponents by myself and they have better armor than my gun will penetrate easily This situation becomes even more desperate and needed when youre the last guy left vs 3 tanks all on low health and you want to maximize your chance of winning the game One bounced shot could easily make the difference between living and dying When you do NOT want to try using premium ammo is when you have a very large aiming reticle and only a small part of it on a part of a target tank Make sure if youre using premium ammo you have the most possible chance of hittingthough premium ammo CAN BOUNCE and not penetrate For example if they are behind a rock and their track is out but only fills around 20 of your reticle dont fire premium or youre very likely to be throwing away money Premium ammo will earn you money every time you hit AND penetrate so its really important to use it wisely Battle Taking damage and ammo repair costs eat into Silver Its a delicate balance of doing damage while not wasting ammo as well as being where the action is so that you can actually do damage but without taking too much in return You also have to factor in a balance of should I shoot something that is almost dead or do lots of damage to this health guy right next to him In general you want knock an opponent out of the fight AS SOON AS POSSIBLE because dead tanks dont shoot back Likewise if with a group use this tactic to coordinate fire upon the same vehicle and get each opponent gun out of the battle as quick as possible to help mitigate damage taken and ensure long term survivability Silver Challenges in Higher Tiers Most people have challenges in higher Tier matches due to the much higher repair and ammo costs For this reason many people elect to keep a few mid tier tanks The sweet spot seems to be in the area of Tier V VIII for ensuring fairly high average Silver production Personally I dont tend to have so many issues in my high Tier games but I just got my first Tier X tank so perhaps its a bit too early to tell I will note that as I was first getting into the mid tiers I instantly fell in love with the with the Silver earning abilities of the T1 Heavy After the pure suck that was the M3 Leeconstant money loses I was fairly giddy once I began playing the T1 Heavy I remember playing nothing BUT that for several days to finance other tanks and earning well over 1 million within a few hours of playingthe most Silver I had been able to achieve at the time My lack of Silver was due to running too many tanks that had to constantly being upgraded chasing Tech Tree specials etcall the things I mention above to not do While the T1 Heavy was my first money maker tank there are plenty of them out there Find one you BOTH enjoy playing as well as makes you good average Silver earnings for you and play that tank a lot Remember WoT is a marathon not a sprint Its a long game strategy to manage Silver reserves As a side benefit if you find a tank that is both enjoyable to play as well as one you do well in consistently this increases your free XP earned Better to have 500 matches making 1000 XP in a Tier V tank I hope the information presented provides people with some assistance in gaining and keeping enough Silver and never feeling like youre broke The main thing is you dont HAVE to buy something new just because its available and its often advisable to NOT make that purchase Only do so when you feel comfortable with the Silver you will have left after the sale is completed Thank you for your time Edited by JoeDaFrogman 04 March 2015 0919 PM Twitchtv Frogmans Guide to Silver in World of Tanks Want to win more Learn to 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Forum Alaska Hunting Forums Alaska Hunting 00 buck or slugs NOTES FOR VISITORS Welcome to the Alaska Outdoors Supersite forums The contents of our forums are viewable by anyone and may be read by clicking the forum headings below To post in the forums you must register at THIS LINK To upgrade or change your membership please login and select Upgrade Supporting Membership Your account will now be managed separately from the forum system Forum login is separate from account management but shares the same username and password IMPORTANT If you can not login please reset your password using our new 6 character format through THIS LINK and click Forgot Password An email message with a reset link will be sent to your email address 1 2 Last Results 1 to 20 of 34 Thread 00 buck or slugs Thread Tools 04212009 1 geoff156 Member Join Date Apr 2006 Posts 499 00 buck or slugs I plan to carry my 12 guage while walking into my bait station this year for protection as I plan to take a bear with my bow was looking for advice as to wether I should load it with 00 buck or slugs for close encounter protection what do you all think Havent spent much time shooting shotguns for anything other than ducks Thanks 04212009 2 Bradford Member Join Date Jul 2008 Location Anchorage Posts 653 Originally Posted by geoff156 I plan to carry my 12 guage while walking into my bait station this year for protection as I plan to take a bear with my bow was looking for advice as to wether I should load it with 00 buck or slugs for close encounter protection what do you all think Havent spent much time shooting shotguns for anything other than ducks Thanks Both alternate loads spray the face slug the body spray the face slug the body 04212009 3 Paul H Moderator Join Date Apr 2006 Location Anchorage Posts 5686 Neither carry a rifle Ive read enough reports of actual use on bears to be disuaded from using a shotgun for bear defense Plenty of great theories but theories dont always hold in the real world 04212009 4 AKDoug Member Join Date Apr 2006 Location Talkeetna Posts 5850 If you are getting off four shots from a 12 guage while being charged you are most likely not being charged The only suitable round for a 12ga to shoot a bear is a slug Bunny Boots and Bearcats Utility Sled Mayhem 04212009 5 Bradford Member Join Date Jul 2008 Location Anchorage Posts 653 Originally Posted by AKDoug If you are getting off four shots from a 12 guage while being charged you are most likely not being charged The only suitable round for a 12ga to shoot a bear is a slug What can I say I am quicker than Doc Holiday I normally go with just slug loads my pops is all about using both 04212009 6 yukon254 Member Join Date Aug 2007 Location Yukon Canada Posts 1396 12 guage this has been asked before and it seems there are lots of guys on here who dont think 00 buck will work i guess the sow grizzly i killed at point blank range didnt read those posts 3 pellets penetrated the skull killed her instantly i shot a black bear with a slug worked as well as anything i do know one old time brown bear guide in AK that packs a 12 gauge so you wont be alone you will probably get some posts that will claim the 00 buck wont penetrate well enough just go out and test 04212009 7 ironartist Member Join Date Jun 2006 Location Meadow Lakes Posts 1182 2 34 brenekee slugs I tested several different slugs into a piece of wet oak 3 remington and federals would not exit and the shorter brenekees sailed right through Plus you wont have any spent shells get hung up upon ejection where a 3 empty might what would you want to trust Visions Steel 841WELD9353 Rebellion is in my blood I was born an American Μολών λαβέ 04212009 8 AlaskaTrueAdventure Member Join Date Apr 2006 Location Paradise Alaska Posts 1543 I agree with Paul H and AKDoug And the story goes like this On the last evening of a clients last day of a hunt he shot a bear in the upper left shoulder as it was sitting like a dog facing directly toward him The guide could not find the blood trail as it got dark so they staggered back into camp at 100AM The next morning the client left and the outfitter and four guides and a packer went out to find the wounded brown bear Although blood was not visible we spread out several yards apart and slowly entered a sea of alder brush looking for boo boo bear In the middle of us was a packer who had brought a pistol grip 12 gauge shotgun loaded with 00 buckshot as his packergun While all of us had big guns of course the packer walked directly into the wounded bear at 5 yards or 15 feet The bear was laying on his back with his legs toward the gun and his head away from the guns and sat up The packer shot the bear in the middle of the chest with two blasts of 00 buck The bear was already feeling poorly from having his shoulder shotup Although it If you must take a shotgun bring slugs Ill bring my ol hammer big ugly my old 338 guide gun and the packer became an Alaskan State Trooper a great one Dennis AK TAGS 04212009 9 WIsam Member Join Date Dec 2007 Posts 224 Never shot a bear with a shotgun but heard plenty of stories about buckshot being a marginal penetrator on deer at any range less than spitting range On the other hand a load of 00 in the face of a charging bear might change its mind even if it didnt penetrate the skull As for the body it might not have the penetration necessary 04212009 10 AKDoug Member Join Date Apr 2006 Location Talkeetna Posts 5850 Hell a 22 to the eyeball would work However I am a complete idiot psycho according to this board I rarely carry a firearm while bowhuntingeven while baiting Bunny Boots and Bearcats Utility Sled Mayhem 04212009 11 geoff156 Member Join Date Apr 2006 Posts 499 shotgun Thanks for the input guys think I will go with slugs Hopefully I wont have to find out how good or bad they perform 04212009 12 338 mag Member Join Date Apr 2006 Posts 3088 slugs The Brenneke Black Magic 600 grain slug You want lots penetration and big hole this slug is susposed to do that at charge distances say under 30 Buck shot might work to blow one off the end of your bayonet 04212009 13 Alaskantrapper Member Join Date Apr 2006 Location valley Posts 136 A charging bear is using sight to come at you if a dose of 00 buck to the eyes at 20 feet doesnt blind him hes too far away to be charging then you go to the slugs My only DLP bear was shot in the face with 3 T shot and died 4 paces from me 1 shot and half his face was tore up really messy You also need to make sure the shot is steel it penetrates better than lead at a short distance 04222009 14 MNViking Member Join Date Apr 2007 Location Anchorage AK Posts 746 Im bringing bear spray to the stand I trust the scientific evidence that bear spray is better than a gun JMO however Finally Brad Childress is GONE 04222009 15 Gulkana Rafting Member Join Date Apr 2006 Location Gakona Ak Posts 1645 drop um Originally Posted by geoff156 I plan to carry my 12 guage while walking into my bait station this year for protection as I plan to take a bear with my bow was looking for advice as to wether I should load it with 00 buck or slugs for close encounter protection what do you all think Havent spent much time shooting shotguns for anything other than ducks Thanks You will get lots of opinions and take mine for what it is worth I do a lot of float trips deep into Bear country and I carry a Mossenberg 12 ga mag strictly for bears It is short and carry 5 1 and this is the way I do it I dont want to kill the bear most of the time so I pack the first round with 00 buck shot and the next 5 are the real deal fully loads with slugs The reason is if I can turn the bear away eith a blast of buck shot great if he still comes at me he is going to eat a lot One mans opinion Walt Northwest Alaska Back Country Rentals Kotzebue AK 33 miles north of the Arctic Circle Your best bet in rafts and camps wwwnorthwestalaskacom 04222009 16 Paul H Moderator Join Date Apr 2006 Location Anchorage Posts 5686 Id thought I was done with this thread but in light of some recent posts figured Id add a few more comments IMHO anyone that chooses a gun based on its ability to scare or wound an animal has chosen the wrong tool for the job In a true DLP case you need something that will kill the bear under less than ideal situations Anything less than that puts you and others at risk from a wounded bear Wounded bears are the most dangerous they are not less dangerous than unwounded bears If you want to disuade a bear carry pepper spray If you want to kill a bear carry an appropriate gun I used to carry a mossberg mariner loaded with 00 and slugs per common AK advice The trouble was when I tested 00 at the range 10 yards to see the pattern I realized the folly with 00 If you assume that it will pattern out then you are really having faith in the magic pellet theory That theory is that somehow one of those 15 pellets will be fatal Lets look at a single pellet of 00 it has the same terminal perform as a black powder squirel rifle aka a 32 caliber lead ball at 12001300 fps I If you assume the shot load is a dense mass then you have to place that load with the same precision as a single round no more no less And as a single mass a load of 00 falls shy of what the best slugs can do So if you are back to a long gun to place a single shot on a target at close range what is the better choice the shotgun or an appropriate rifle Look at what the bear guides carry and youll find the vast majority carry rifles generally starting at 338 win mag and going up They are the ones that have actually had to fire close range killing shots on bears under less than ideal situations They have seen what works and what doesnt About the only thing those guides seem to do over the years is move to more Something to consider 04222009 17 fishingis4play New member Join Date Apr 2006 Location Wasilla Alaska Posts 199 Slugs 12 ga 3 inch Brenneke Black Magic 600 grain slug at 4 feet as you can see they work just fine Buck shot is for birds and if you think a blind bear is better they can still smell you Kill them fast and break them down my theory and it has worked so far Attached Images DSC00450jpg 1303 KB 169 views 04222009 18 yukon254 Member Join Date Aug 2007 Location Yukon Canada Posts 1396 3030 told ya lots on here would tell you that 00 buck was no good No question the big bores are better if you can shoot them most cant more bears grizzly and blacks have been killed in self defense with the grand old 3030 and 303 than all the new wiz bangers combined A lot of African PHs carry 00 buck for leopard guess they just dont know how ineffective it is Kinda like the papers on the old 405 grn 4570 load 1200 fps who would hunt bears with that 04222009 19 cubdriver55 Member Join Date Apr 2009 Location Alaska Posts 76 I have never been a fan of a shotgun for bearsbut slugs now are much better than they used to be A 600 grain hard slug is hard for anything to survive The main thing I want to say is if anyone shoots at a brown bear shoot to kill it Shooting a bear with buck shot to scare it away is wrong You are just wounding a bear that might end up killing someone else This has become a problem with floaters in the past few years Shoot in the air or ground if a bear is coming into 04232009 20 duntov302 Member Join Date Aug 2006 Posts 2 oo buckshot or slug If I was going to carry buckshot it would definately be 000 Buckshot Page 1 of 2 1 2 Last Quick Navigation Alaska Hunting Top Bookmarks Digg delicious StumbleUpon Google Posting Permissions You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts BB code is On Smilies are On IMG code is On VIDEO code is On HTML code is Off Forum Rules Contact Us Alaska Outdoors Forums Archive Top

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More Forums Alaska Outdoor Gear Glacier water drinkable NOTES FOR VISITORS Welcome to the Alaska Outdoors Supersite forums The contents of our forums are viewable by anyone and may be read by clicking the forum headings below To post in the forums you must register at THIS LINK To upgrade or change your membership please login and select Upgrade Supporting Membership Your account will now be managed separately from the forum system Forum login is separate from account management but shares the same username and password IMPORTANT If you can not login please reset your password using our new 6 character format through THIS LINK and click Forgot Password An email message with a reset link will be sent to your email address Results 1 to 12 of 12 Thread Glacier water drinkable Thread Tools 07122009 1 jimss Member Join Date Apr 2006 Posts 283 Glacier water drinkable Here goes another AK greenie question I am curious if silty water coming directly out of a glacier is drinkable wout treatment Are there bugs that live in glacier ice that can screw up your digestive tract If so do most of you use filters to get rid of all the silt or will the silt quickly plug filters How about using pills 07122009 2 oakman Member Join Date Apr 2007 Location Eagle River Alaska United States Posts 1247 I filter just about everything that I drink Dealing with glacial silt can be done by collecting some water and allowing it to settle before filtering or by using some sort of pre filter Coffee filters seem to work pretty well to get the bulk of the silt out You could also just use your filter Im not sure how many liters you can get out of a filter when it is getting loaded with silt Another option would be to find another source of water that is from runoff 07132009 3 Jim Strutz Member Join Date Aug 2006 Location Anchorage Posts 1449 Theoretically Giardia cysts or other pests could get into water 10 from the glacier face but chances are its pretty safe There are ice worms in some glaciers but I believe they are safe to ingest Of course the farther you get from the source the more likely something could get into the water So if youre 1020 miles from the glacier its probably not that safe even though its still cold silty The reality is most fresh Alaska water will not make you sick 9 times out of 10 youll be fine But thats not much better odds than playing Russian Roulette so I dont do it The silt wont hurt you though You can strain it through your teeth if you want Leaves a funny grit in your mouth but Ive drunk plenty of it years ago Silty water is a pain to filter Even after sitting overnight there is enough fine silt to clog your filter pretty quick Prefiltering helps but doesnt cure the problem and your prefilter clogs up quick You could use chemical treatments but some cysts are notorious for suviving chlorine andor iodine UV lights are great on the cysts but dont penetrate well enough in the silt to be effective The only other solution is boiling Well that and taking the bet that this is one of those 9 out of 10 safe places I look for clean looking sources for filtering 07182009 4 broncoformudv Member Join Date Apr 2006 Location Anchorage Alaska Posts 4670 There are enough clear streams in Alaska that I have never contemplated dealing with glacier water Never liked having sand in my mouth and dont plan on drinking sandy water if I can help it You can filter it out but it will clog up your filter in no time and will even make it past a pre filter and or clog the pre filter in no time 07182009 5 BrettAKSCI Member Join Date Mar 2009 Location Anchorage Posts 1694 Use a coffee filter over a nalgene bottle to collect the water Then use a stiry pen pump or chemicals to treat it It would suck being out in the middle of no where with stomach issues Brett 07192009 6 KRS Member Join Date Feb 2007 Location Arizona Posts 362 Originally Posted by Brett Adam Barringer with stomach issues AKA Violent Diarrhea 07202009 7 Tombo Member Join Date Jan 2008 Posts 118 Two drops CL2 per quart of water wait 12 an hour and you are good to go Water will taste like crap but you wont need to 07212009 8 broncoformudv Member Join Date Apr 2006 Location Anchorage Alaska Posts 4670 Originally Posted by Tombo Two drops CL2 per quart of water wait 12 an hour and you are good to go Water will taste like crap but you wont need to I always thought the bleach tasted better than the iodine drops Then again fresh mountain spring water with no disinfectants taste the best 07212009 9 trapperbob Member Join Date Apr 2006 Location Anchorage Posts 451 Drink the water If you are high in a valley and taking water out of a fast moving glacial stream just drink the water I have for over 40 yrs and when I was young we drank from the lakes although I wouldnt suggest that now knowing a little more about the bugs in some water I think high in a sheep drainage is a whole lot safer than 9 out of 10 Unless its really turbulent water the silt is probably not even noticable 07212009 10 AlaskaTrueAdventure Member Join Date Apr 2006 Location Paradise Alaska Posts 1543 clear H2O jimss There is clear water at the airstripbase camp location where you will be at I forget if the canyon right behind your camp has a trickle of water of not But most of the canyonvalleys in that country have some water somewhere some of the time The main river will be very thickly silted with glacial silt of flour But there are some places just 100 yards from your base camp where clear water simply oozes up out of the ground in several small but usable seeps Up high where the sheep are at you can almost always find a clear water seep You might have to fill your water bottle lidfull by lidfull I seldom pass up a good water source when sheep hunting Sometimes water is everywhere Other times not I have drank a bunch of glacial water over the years Dont look at it It is easier to drink if you do not look at it But I have never suffered any strange effects or is it affects I personally drink alot of water unfiltered I will until I get sick someday I do have one friend who has had beaver fever three times I strongly dislike chlorine I do not dislike iodine tablets I do filter all water on the guided hunts I conduct Drinkable water will not be an issuewhere you are going If you have to hike outwater is a possible problem the last 8 miles after you hike up out of the valley bottom Dennis Alaska 07272009 11 northway Member Join Date Apr 2006 Posts 2761 Ive NEVER filtered water on a sheep hunt Have never been sick I guess until I get sick I will continue drinking it right from the tap 07302009 12 Erik in AK Member Join Date Jul 2006 Location Anchorage Posts 2019 Glacial silt will jam up a filter in a hurry If you dig a hole a few feet back from the river in a spot where the bank is low so you dont have to dig too far down the water will trickle in clear filling the void If youre going to be in one spot for a few days its worth the effort Quick Navigation Alaska Outdoor Gear Top 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