Vaccine Maker Admits on FDA Website That DTaP Vaccine Causes AutismBy Catherine J. Frompovich According to the U.S. FDAs online Biologics Blood Vaccines publication, Sanofi Pasteurs Diphtheria, Tetanus Toxoids and Acellular Pertussis Vaccine Adsorbed (DTaP) package insert information under the section for Adverse Reactions, which runs from page 6 to page 11, we find the following declared admission that DTaP caused autism during post-approval use of Tripedia vaccine. See the copy and paste information below. So, why all the denials that a vaccine hasnt or cant cause autism? Parents, heres your proof! Tripedia Additional Adverse Reactions Adverse events reported during post-approval use of Tripedia vaccine include idiopathic thrombocytopenic purpura, SIDS, anaphylactic reaction, cellulitis, autism, convulsion/grand mal convulsion, encephalopathy, hypotonia, neuropathy, somnolence and apnea. Events were included in this list because of the seriousness or frequency of reporting. Because these events are reported voluntarily from a population of uncertain size, it is not always possible to reliably estimate their frequencies or to establish a causal relationship to components of Tripedia vaccine.2 [1] The reference 2 above refers to Sanofi Pasteur Inc., Data on File 072503. [2] Personally, Id love to examine that Data on File 072503! It should be noted that Acellular Pertussis Vaccine Concentrates (For Further Manufacturing Use) are produced by The Research Foundation for Microbial Diseases of Osaka University (BIKEN), Osaka, Japan, under United States (US) license, and are combined with diphtheria and tetanus toxoids manufactured by Sanofi Pasteur Inc. Tripedia vaccine is filled, labeled, packaged, and released by Sanofi Pasteur Inc. [3] Whats in Tripedia that probably can interfere with brain chemistry and neurology? According to the Tripedias package insert, some ingredients include: Bovine extract, formaldehyde used to inactivate microorganisms a couple of times, ammonium sulfate, aluminum potassium sulfate, 2 growth mediums: modified Mueller and Miller is one; the other is Stainer-Scholte medium. Mueller and Miller medium, according to the information I found, contains: glucose, sodium chloride, sodium phosphate dibasic, monopotassium, phosphate, magnesium sulfate hydrate, ferrous sulfate heptaphydrate, cystine hydrochloride, tyrosine hydrochloride, urasil hydrochloride, Ca-pantothenate in ethanol, thiamine in ethanol, pyridoxin-hydrochloride in ethanol, riboflavin in ethanol, biotin in ethanol, sodium hydroxide, beef heart infusion (de- fatted beef heart and distilled water), casein [milk protein] solution[4] basically a mixture of sugar, salt, amino acids, vitamins, and minerals While Stainer-Scholte medium has the following ingredients: tris hydrochloride, tris base, glutamate (monosodium salt) [MSG], proline, salt, monopotassium phosphate, potassium chloride, magnesium chloride, calcium chloride, ferrous sulfate, asorbic acid, niacin, glutathione [5] The vaccine is formulated without preservatives, but contains a trace amount of thimerosal [(mercury derivative), (0.3 g mercury/dose)] from the manufacturing process. Each 0.5 mL dose also contains, by assay, not more than 0.170 mg of aluminum and not more than 100 g (0.02%) of residual formaldehyde. The vaccine contains gelatin and polysorbate 80 (Tween-80), which are used in the production of the pertussis concentrate. [6] [CJF emphasis added] Probable cause ingredients for adverse reactionsespecially neurological, in my opinion, include: casein[7], to which some children are allergic; MSGan excitotoxin[8]; thimerosal-ethylmercury[9]; aluminum[10]; formaldehyde[11]; gelatin[12]; and polysorbate 80[13]. Now that we have at least one vaccine manufacturer leveling with the medical profession, why arent pediatricians, nurses, and all medical personnel, plus the media, not telling parents and guardians that the DTaP vaccine has caused autism and also telling parents ALL the adverse effects that appear in vaccine package inserts? To take the vaccine debacle further, most of the mandated vaccines for infants and children, contain many of the above ingredients, which must be stopped from being injected into infants, toddlers, teens and even adults! Its time for Congress to rescind the Get out of Jail Free card for vaccine makers and stop the aggressive onslaught of the Autism Spectrum Disorder [1 in 45 kids (2015)[14]] that is depriving children of a fulfilling life and ruining families emotionally, financially, and physically to the point of parents divorcing because of the stresses of ASD in a family. To really understand the vaccine conundrum, plus crimes of fraudulent science, data, and skullduggery, readers should know that the new motion picture documentary VAXXED is being released April 1st, 2016. For information on how you can get your local movie theater to show it, heres the link for the movie on how to get it distributed to theaters. Its about time vaccines are publicly acknowledged by the feds and the media for all the health damages they have caused. Just check out the CDCs VAERS reports and the vaccine damage payouts by the HHS/HRSA; see pages 5 and 9. A grand total of $3,325,248,027.02 thats Billions! have been paid for vaccine adverse reactions and deaths from 1989 to 2016 so far. Truly, vaccines are a crime against humanity, in my opinion. Notes: [1] http://www.fda.gov/downloads/BiologicsBloodVaccines/Vaccines/ApprovedProducts/UCM101580.pd Pg. 11, 3 Catherine J Frompovich (website) is a retired natural nutritionist who earned advanced degrees in Nutrition and Holistic Health Sciences, Certification in Orthomolecular Theory and Practice plus Paralegal Studies. Her work has been published in national and airline magazines since the early 1980s. Catherine authored numerous books on health issues along with co-authoring papers and monographs with physicians, nurses, and holistic healthcare professionals. She has been a consumer healthcare researcher 35 years and counting. Catherines latest book, published October 4, 2013, is Vaccination Voodoo, What YOU Dont Know About Vaccines, available on Amazon.com. Her 2012 book A Cancer Answer, Holistic BREAST Cancer Management, A Guide to Effective Non-Toxic Treatments, is available on Amazon.com and as a Kindle eBook. Two of Catherines more recent books on Amazon.com are Our Chemical Lives And The Hijacking Of Our DNA, A Probe Into Whats Probably Making Us Sick (2009) and Lord, How Can I Make It Through Grieving My Loss, An Inspirational Guide Through the Grieving Process (2008) Catherines NEW book: Eat To Beat Disease, Foods Medicinal Qualities 2016 Catherine J Frompovich coming in Summer 2016 Once upon a time Natural News was one of the DAILY sites that I visited because it usually revealed valuable information that was hidden by the usual corporate media. However I was forced to stop paying attention to Natural News completely because once I started pointing out (in the comments section) how Natural News had SUDDENLY SWITCHED from reporting the evidence that the San Bernardino terrorist attack was an obvious false flag in order to start parroting exactly what the corporate media was saying, I was BANNED from even being allowed to comment at all ! Truly awakened people need to know how much the alternative sites are now being completely controlled. Controlled opposition? Seems more often the case than not. Governments the world over are putting huge resources into trying to manipulate information on the internet. Like you, we must always be vigilant and question more. Get information from multiple sources etc, and discuss. Well, your post for this article seems to have survived. Maybe it was banned, Sparky, because it was absurd and highly insulting to the victims. Have you considered that the shooters might have been cognitively impaired by chemtrails? mmj plug available for delivery contact us at 512 640 9206 or visit our website Because these events are reported voluntarily from a population of uncertain size, it is not always possible to reliably estimate their frequencies or to establish a causal relationship to components of Tripedia vaccine. Events reported may or may not be associated with the vaccine. But whatever the cause, it is required that it be reported. The likely increase in autism is GMO foods (3/4 of which contain the carcinpgen glyphosate) , which show an exact correlation, but unlike vaccines, during which trials many illnesses may occur for many reasons, GMO foods are not required to make such reports. A certain number of people get autism; a certain number will get it taking any drug, vaccine, or even food. This is not imply causation. Making this assumption, or promoting it as an admission is naked dishonesty. And no, I a not a paid shill, tho I welcome donations. Anyone calling me a paid shill will be guilty of the crime of libel and exposed as a paid shill, using rule #1: logic or evidence should be met with the accusation that the person presenting is a paid shill. It is likely that Monsanto pays shills to call those who point to the correlation of GMO use and the rise of autism as paid shills. Its a strategy that works for useful idiots. We know they fund universities, give former and future govt workers in the regulatory agencies (revolving door) lucrative jobs, and spend millions to deny the scientific claims of WHO and other researchers who point out the dangers of GMO food production. I would like to see such studies of autism based on GMO food consumption, wouldnt you? Meanwhile, adverse effects during a trial are no more proved to be a cause than a car accident can be claimed to be a result of the trial. Ok, send donations now. This is old news. Quality medical marijuana strains , cannabis oil and hash for sale . Visit our website at 420cannabisplug dot com .,,,,,,, Thank you for this report, Catherine I appreciate your staying on top of such stories. We need all the help we can get, these days, from those who have something to sell us. Not to mention nagalase, cas9/crispr and bacteriophages Look up VICP Vaccine Injury Compensation Plan, its now paid out up to $3 BILLION worth of injuries, all vaccine makers have to pay into the plan Corporations pay nothing. They never can. Manufacturers fund this scheme through an excise tax levied on them of 75c per vaccine component. Mike Stevens, corporations are merely the tax collectors. Nope, the manufacturers pay the excise tax on vaccines. Mike Stevens, corporations are merely the tax collectors for the 75 cents.. Not that it would matter in any case (imo)- taxpayers pay for public goods like schools, libraries and the like. Last I checked, NOT having the disease circulating in the public was a very public very good although admittedly, a very tangible one. Did you actually read the revelatory text? Because these events are reported voluntarily from a population of and this bit also, Events were included in this list because of the seriousness or frequency of reporting. No proof. People are always looking to point fingers when something bad happens to their family members. Im not a huge fan of big phrma, but i dont think its vaccines causing autism No reason to cut corners so Ill say it straight out: Non-therapeutic vaccines cause SIDS, autism, allergies, asthma, and many other issues. Do you even see the precription adds on tv for drugs? I dont actually own a TV but have seen the commercials when visiting other people. Its wrong to lie. Then stop Daddy Love (which is a creepy name). Dont be ridiculous. What does the NVICP have to do with smallpox? Obviously you cant read I did and have a copy of the Tripedia insert on my desk? They have to self report, the Pharma loving doctors wont do it. Or a bunch of anti-vaxers cranks are reporting it to get it into the list of reported adverse reactions. Still 0 reputable studies showing a link. Hark! Doth I hear another DUH MOMENT? Exactly. duhxactly Rulings by courts are not science; science is not ruled by government, committee, courts, or authorities. It is a self-correcting enterprise run by other scientists, with peer review in a democratic, anarchistic way. The value of vaccines is based on a cost/benefit analysis. There is some harm done, much good. Those who are harmed deserve to be compensated but this does not refute the science or the analysis of the good done vs the harm. All medicine involves risks and a certain degree of bad results; that is not reason to ban or denounce all medicine. The day that courts decide what is science is the day we revert to the political science of the Soviet Union, where science was dictated by the government. Meanwhile, those who can show a reasonable harm are treated with respect. Events were included in this list because of the seriousness or frequency of reporting. Meaning that people with autisic kids called because they thought it was the vaccine. Something that will be kept undercoverI have been involved trying to bring the MMR jab in the 90s to be proved causing my two sons mild/moderate Autism the USA government says it was not the case the rest of the creepy crawlers follow and hide Vital information ..but if it was the Presidents or UK Prime Ministers child welllll all would be a story !!!! There have been numerous parents Whats numerous? Hundreds? Thousands? 10s of thousands? How many people have gotten vaccines? Even the parents of autistic kids have had vaccines I hate big phrma, but something else is causing autism. When was the last time the corners, there have been thousands of parents with children that have reported non-therapeutic vaccine damage but most autism reports were refused unless the lawyers changed the description of the damage to brain damage. The refusal to accept the damage as described as autism was part of the coverup. Using brain damage instead did allow a tiny bit of money to get to parents of damaged children. Not sure what all this means. Ive got big problems with big phrma and how our courts and health insurance system works. But its nutz to say all vaccines dont help and harm or kill more. I guarantee you if your kid had small pox or whooping cough you wouldnt hesitate to give them the vaccine. Sorry, but my doesnt exist statement is a partially trick statement. Quality medical marijuana strains , cannabis oil and hash for sale . Visit our website at 420cannabisplug dot com .. We have available medical strains , cannabis oil and others for sale visit our webpage at 420cannabisplug dot com Why bother highlighting a story it said reported. There is no evidence that the TDaP vaccination actually CAUSES Autism. Most of you do not remember what it was like before vaccinations. Guess we have to go back to families losing 2 or 3 of their children like in the 19th century for the nonsense about vaccinations end. When I was young, we didnt have many vaccines but later in the 1950s we stopped dumping human waste in rivers above where other city intake for public water were and where people swam in an effort to stop fecal to oral diseases like cholera, polio, and typhoid. It worked. A few comments to this Gish-gallop: I did not have to attend school in the 50s with measles. Where on earth did you come up with such a nutty idea? In the 40s and earlier, people had to put a quarantine sign on their door when there was measles in the household, to warn people off. The US infant mortality rate is dropping, and is actually at its lowest point ever. Sonja Henie, what do you call sanitation that increases polio? Polio vaccine was introduced in 1955. By that time, 70% of households had public water/sewage systems. You would not have been allowed to go to school with measles. No one in my acquaintance has ever had a chickenpox party. Sonja Henie, actually, the non-therapeutic inactive virus IPV polio vaccine was tried on a couple of people in 1952 with real testing starting in 1953. Oh, bull! Show me one documented case of this cancer. Sonja Henie, You said it, you provide the proof. Thats how it works here, bub. I dont do research into vaccines, either, but I can back up what I say. You cant because youre lying. I said what? Perhaps hundreds of things. Oh, quit being cute. Document what you said in the post I responded to . Thats the expectation on this board. Sonja Henie, of the hundreds of statements that I made, I give you permission to ask someone to figure which you want more information on, to do web searches for you, and then read and explain the results to you. You dont have anything to back up all these cancer from SV-40 stories, do you? Sonja Henie, I believe you are asking for a study that had two groups of people with one group assaulted with the slow-acting SV40, one group not assaulted, with the people followed to the normal incubation of 20 to 30 years or longer 50 years to see which developed any of the three types of cancer that SV40 causes. No, Im asking for some proof of your statements. The same thing that I posted for Mike Stevens: Really somitcw, you should be ashamed that you cant back up what you saying. The shame is all yours. Sonja Henie,, your continue off topic and red herring posts to disrupt the discussion about harmful non-therapeutic vaccines which does not contribute to the discussion about harmful non-therapeutic vaccines. Burden of proof is on you, buddy. Did you know that vaccination can cure leukaemia, cancer and old age? Mike Stevens, cute red herring but trolls use it often. I couldnt have asked for a clearer admission that you vomited out a Gish gallop if I tried. Mike Stevens, still trying to confuse or block the discussion of how harmful There are many, look that up. You said it, you prove it. Look it up is a cheaters way out. You have any proof of any of it? People did not put quarantine signs on their doors for measles, are you kidding? People had measles parties so their kids would get it while young. I, my family, relatives, whole school, whole town like every other place had childhood diseases and didnt even see a Dr. I dont remember even one person having any serious injuries. Not this crap again! Incidence of polio by year (scroll down): These so-called measles parties are about 99% urban legend. I grew up in the pre-vaccine era; I was 14 when it came out. I never heard of one, literally. No one I knew ever gave one, was invited to one, or attended one. My husband grew up 1000 miles away from me and said he never heard of one either. Just because you dont remember any serious injuries from your childhood doesnt mean they didnt happen. A hearing loss is not a real visible injury. Thats what happened to me, either with measles or mumps according to an audiologist (mild hearing loss). And so on. Yes, Salk was correct that after the vaccine had basically eliminated polio from the US, the few polio cases remaining were caused by vaccine. Again, look at that chart. The first vaccine was not live virus vaccine; that one came out in 1961. Lets look at 1966, five years after it came out: 113 cases, 106 of which were, sadly, paralytic. Now which number is smaller, 57,879 or 113? You tell me! Please respond. You are calling a mild hearing loss a serious injury? You not only remember from your childhood you knew these ppl for years and years and still no serious injuries. 0 deaths from measles in the last 14 years and 108 deaths from the vaccine. By 1955 all healthy kids were having there tonsils out because it was a major medical fad. They are an important part of the immune system especially where polio is concerned. Youre wrong about measles deaths: Dr.Salk was wrong OR, more likely considering the anti-vax penchant for lying, misquoted. The last wild polio cases in the US didnt happen Youre wrong about Bill Gates, too. The CDC has rapidly taken many things off their site and changed things since people are paying a lot more attention. The tonsils are the first and only real defense against polio. Measles depletes the body of Vit A. Look at the chart much earlier it had dropped 90% before the vaccine. 70% who had the polio vaccine didnt even know, the rest had flu like symptoms for a week to 10 days, less than 1% had some paralyzing after effects. You are not looking at the right chart if you think that. HIghest incidence, 1952, almost 60,000 cases. A 90% drop would mean 6,000 cases. Where do you see that? Oh, yeah, in 1958, three years AFTER the vaccine came out. Then some huge drops in the 60s when the oral polio vaccine became available. The year before the vaccine, ~40,000 cases. Math is not your best subject, I see. Yes, I know all those stats, but the incidence was high enough that those small percentages translated into many cases. Like 1 in 50 is now millions of brain damaged kids. It is still the highest in the developed countries Irrelevant (for this discussion ). They have similar schedules as us, sometimes more vaccines, and ours is dropping. Get a proper healthcare system then. You better read some history and facts, it wasnt like that at all before vaccines, that would be as recent as the 50s and 60s. No one was losing 2 or 3 kids, what an insane statement. Because these events are reported voluntarily from a population of Correlation is not the same as causation, but after decades of children dying a few hours to a few days after being assaulted with the SIDS causing non-therapeutic TDaP/DTaP/DPT/DTP vaccines, there might be some truth that the SIDS causing non-therapeutic vaccines cause SIDS. but after decades of children dying a few hours to a few days after This doesnt really happen. VSD data shows virtually no deaths up to thirty days Also children are healthier the closer to their vaccination date. Mortality rates and cause-of-death patterns in a vaccinated population., McCarthy et al, Am J Prev Med., 2014 Wouldnt it be great to have a real study? Perhaps not the best way to study SIDS ( hint the I means infant ). I apologize I forgot that the cutoff for that study was too high for SIDS. dishonesty, darn dishonesty, and statistics. The entire study is overlapping data for many people including people over 85 years old and then on charts overlapping days since non-therapeutic vaccine with themselves The study does break out the deaths by age group in particular infants are analysed separately. The one month or less group shows expected mortality and the 0 12 month is pretty close to linear. Meaning that your expectation of deaths close to vaccination. Simply. Doesnt. Happen. I have no clue. Perhaps in more than one area. Okay, if you can decipher the dishonesty, darn dishonesty, and statistics, Yawn. Unless youre stating that your hypothesis expects no overall correlation between vaccination period and mortality then the study handily answers the important question and reduces the likelihood of your hypothesis. If you are saying that you expect no overall correlation between vaccination period and mortality then feel free to come out and say so. statistics are so cooked that you might not have a clue either? What I have a clue about and you seemingly do not. Is how hypotheses are tested. The study does not in any way measure any SIDS death being from or not from any non-therapeutic vaccine. The study does not in any way measure any SIDS death being from or not from any If vaccines caused SIDS (or any other form of mortality) you would see more children die closer to the point of vaccination. You dont not in 1 month and not in 0-24 years. Bayes theorem and the law of total probability demand that we reduce the likelihood of your hypothesis because this expectation is not met. Again, this is hypothesis testing 101. Ill just point out that by clinging to your SIDS hypothesis in the particular way you are. Is also telling every other vaccine critical person that vaccines are exceptionally unlikely to cause any other kind of mortality. Which is cool, it just adds to the funny mosaic which makes up your subgroup. All of you have ridiculously incompatible views but somehow only direct your ridiculousness outward. Jonathan Graham, if your wild speculation that children do not die soon after being assaulted with non-therapeutic vaccines were true, why arent there any studies that prove your wild speculation? Children do die soon after being vaccinated. Just not significantly more than they do a very long time after being vaccinated. The study I handed to you makes that clear. However if vaccines WERE killing people then you would expect there to be a significant difference. Since we dont Bayes Rule and the law of total probability demands we devalue your hypothesis. Studies that convert all data to meaningless person years Not all of the data is in person years and person years are not meaningless studies that include people 85 years old Were not included in any part of the analysis Im citing. Separate analyses were done for 1 mo and 0-24 years. Which makes me wonder if youve even read this study. should also be suspect Statements from people like yourself who are insanely biased and dont understand even the basic elements of statistics and hypothesis testing. Are equally if not more suspect. Jonathan Graham, we know without a doubt that children are dying soon after being assaulted with non-therapeutic vaccines. we know without a doubt that children are dying soon after being assaulted with non-therapeutic vaccines Yes, in the same sense that children are dying soon after watching Paw Patrol. However there isnt any evidence to suggest that they are dying significantly more than a long time after. Which again your hypothesis expect, hence we must consider your hypothesis not well supported. The correlation is so strong that the vaccine court measures in hours from the time of the assault until deaths to block many non-therapeutic vaccine injury claims. Lots of problems with your thinking here. a) The presumption that the law is in any way fit to decide an issue of science. It isnt. b) Even if it was youre making an elementary error in logic. Your claim of overlapping 1 mo and 0-24 years Actually what Im saying is your hypothesis EXPECTS (among other things) the 1 mo group to show an inverse relationship between date of vaccination and mortality rates. However in this study that is not seen. Now again, if you DO NOT EXPECT this relationship. Please say: I do not expect this and we can talk about that. If you DO expect it, then again this study provides sufficient evidence to consider your hypothesis to be devalued. Anytime you can answer that question, you lose this argument. Which explains why you are unable to answer this. Jonathan Graham, I only see that the study you keep harping on successfully either covered up data or had no data at all. I only see What you wish to see, no surprise there. the study you keep harping on successfully either covered up data or had no data at all. Nothing to cover up, its math plain and simple. Either your hypothesis expects mortality to decrease with distance from vaccination or it doesnt. Your criticism is rather plainly made up. Jonathan Graham, neither you nor either study has provided any facts. neither you nor either study has provided any facts. I sure have. How many 85 year old or older infants were in the supposed study? In the analysis we are discussing? This was mentioned in the study. How is it that you have no idea what this number is? How many died of SIDS? Again, this was mentioned (by proportion) in the study. How is it you dont know this? If you cant make sense out of the studies or dont want to, fine by me. I can make sense of the study just fine. What doesnt make sense is your critique it means nothing. None of the words you are using map to any kind of statistical critique. So you either have to use standard statistical terminology or explain what your made-up terms mean. Until then, I think you need someone with some expertise to help translate your made-up issues. Otherwise you might as well be saying that the studys bluzo isnt sufficiently flashist. Jonathan Graham, if you can make sense of your study, why keep the facts to yourself? We already know your opinion that the study shows something but can you enlighten others with the supposed facts shown versus the opinions shown? if you can make sense of your study, why keep the facts to yourself? I havent I listed the facts in my last post. Did you not read them? I listed three. Each one starts with the words: It is a fact. If theres a problem with one of them please cite the specific fact and what you think is wrong with it. Jonathan Graham, your last post must have been deleted. There, your first so called Its a fact start with your opinion with some speculation on what I do or do not expect from the chart. Sorry, you misread this happens to you a lot . What Im saying is the hypothesis you expressed Vaccines cause SIDS EXPECTS an observation which should be visible from the chart. This is a fact. Please adjust your remark to properly counter your misreading of my post. you say that the study does not give some specific information The chart either follows a pattern of inverse linear relationship or it does not. Its pretty easy to see if you read the study. If you havent Id say you can have no useful opinion here. Please adjust your critique to properly address that you are making it from a position of ignorance. Your third its a fact has nothing to do with any chart in any study but again goes back to your opinion of what I do or do think. Sorry this is your poor reading again. There is simply nothing you have said that you could find said precisely the same way by a professional statistician criticizing a study. So again, either rephrase using standard terminology or explain what your made-up terms mean. Jonathan Graham, your posts are getting sillier and sillier. Jonathan Graham, you still wont or cant define phrases like person years Such a definition is unnecessary to make my point that this study rather strongly devalues the hypothesis that vaccines cause SIDS. As Im not talking about person years and neither is the part of the study Im referencing. Which youd know if you read it. If you ever find a study with proof of your opinion proof is a poorly defined term. What I posted was a study which if you read it and you understand a little bit about statistics strongly devalues the hypothesis that vaccines cause SIDS. If you ever find words of criticism for this study that actually referent logical or statistical concepts. Id love to hear it. Until you do I guess you lost this one. Jonathan Graham, you have managed another silly post. Youre getting good at silly. If you cant find anything in either study that you pointed to post that is relevant to the discussion, I did. As stated before: i) Its a fact that the hypothesis that vaccines cause SIDS carries an expectation that you would observe a inverse relationship between mortality and days from a vaccine. Your rebuttal to this: Nothing. ii) Its is also a fact that looking at Figure 1 you can see this isnt the case for children 0-24, nor is it in the 1 month calculation and in any other figure calculated in the study. Your rebuttal to this: Nothing. iii) It is also a fact that Bayes Rule and the law of total probability require that any hypothesis much have its likelihood devalued when its expectation is not met. Your rebuttal to this: Nothing, its possible you are trying to think but that could just be the neighbors burning something on their bbq. i) is necessary for the hypothesis, ii) is clear by simple inspection of the study the fact that you refuse to read the study you think you are critiquing is pretty silly and iii) is obvious if you has something more than elementary math. Im happy to explain any of these further if you are having trouble reading or understanding. Jonathan Graham, the fact that you keep pushing studies with no relevant data means that any rebuttable is not needed or possible. studies with no relevant data The only way the data in the study is not relevant is if you assert that the hypothesis that vaccines cause SIDS carries no expectation whatsoever that you would observe a inverse relationship between mortality and days from a vaccine. Is that what you are asserting? If not, then clearly the study has data which shows which direction this relationship goes. It doesnt matter if you are to frightened to read the study or not. He does that. Nonsense becomes nonsense squared with the Ham Man. Hes not pretending. Im concerned he has recently overcome a serious head injury. I dont know if youre familiar with doctor Archie Kalokerinos but his observations proved that vaccines ARE the cause of SIDS. Yea but hes no Bill Gates .snicker You seem to not grasp what a person year is and why this gives more information than simple numbers of patients. Mike Stevens, so after recording who was assaulted with a non-therapeutic vaccines the study claims to have followed-up on the victims with deaths occurring on average anywhere from 0 to 551.61 person years. I was right, you havent the faintest idea what a person year is, or why it might be used. Mike Stevens, If you bothered reading information that wasnt biased towards the pharmaceutical companies ( your employers ) you would see that SIDS deaths due to vaccines were common in some parts of the world. Take the experiences of doctor Archie Kalokerinos who while working among the aborigines in Australia saw as many as half the aboriginal babies die after being vaccinated. That Johnny is what is called SIDS. You mean the guy who said: I am not against immunisations. My own life was saved by them and even as I type this manuscript there is a newsflash concerning some Aboriginal infants in Sydney who have died from diphtheria. Immunisations would have saved them If you actually read his book you would see that despite his conviction that vaccines produce a vitamin C deficiency (which you would have to be pretty dumb to believe). He didnt actually do any research at all, in fact he didnt even observe many children. It was all conjecture. Just like the U.S. non-therapeutic polio vaccines had absolutely no benefit but caused polio, caused three previously unknown or previously rare cancers and is one of the two possible non-therapeutic vaccines that started the U.S. version of AIDS in 1958, allopaths took many diseases to Australian Aboriginal infants. See, non-therapeutic vaccine goal of population reduction is obtainable. Vaccines are neither designed for population reduction nor is it even a plausible outcome. Reductions in teen pregnancy are better explained through education. Do you not believe Mr. non-therapeutic vaccine eugenicist Bill Gates? Do you not believe Mr. non-therapeutic vaccine eugenicist Bill Gates? Well Bill Gates said First, weve got population. The world today has 6.8 billion people. Thats headed up to about nine billion. Now, if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that by, perhaps, 10 or 15 percent, but there we see an increase of about 1.3. So a) There are a lot of things being mentioned there including reproductive heath services that is birth control. b) Hes talking about the decrease in the rate of growth and c) This is something that is correlated with increasing child survival. If you know of any reason to assault children by injecting polysorbate 80 into them other than fertility reduction, please let the world know. Its used as an excipient and the dose is something like 50mcg. The reasons that you wouldnt attempt to reduce population this way is that the dosing is completely wrong. Even if you assume that murine experiments are analogous to humans in this respect. You end up with a dose that is hundreds to thousands times lower than any research showing anything to do with reproductive problems. The WHO was caught sterilizing women in third world countries using the tetanus vaccine to inject them with HCG. This happened twice and ONLY women were given that shot. Ill gladly supply links if need be. My post containing the link went into moderation so go ahead and google ANALYSIS: Why does an old, false claim about tetanus vaccine safety refuse to die? It starts with An old rumour that a tetanus vaccine causing infertility in women is resurfacing, this time in West Africa. Vinayak Bhardwaj explains as many others have over the last 20 years why this claim is false and why its important to keep debunking it. The origin of the story is LifeSite news. Nuff said. Not a false claim ( although you wish it was ) The first time this happened was in 1992 and it was discovered by Human Life International ( a Catholic human rights organization ) and when they confronted the World Health Organization about the vaccine the WHO denied this was being done. So HLI had the tetanus vaccine analyzed by 5 different labs and they all came to the same conclusion. When the WHO was confronted with those results they remained silent. Citation needed (your whacko conspiracy looney fundie sites dont count). shaynus = zero credibility So after a month of searching for citations, you couldnt find any, so you go with shay has no credibility. Well done! Thanks bro! Yea when has Big Pharma EVER denied anything? Just because Mr. non-therapeutic vaccine eugenicist Bill Gates also mentioned two other ways to reduce population, you pretend that he didnt include the one he pushes the most. Mr. non-therapeutic vaccine eugenicist Bill Gates and I agree on one thing. That is that one of the major purposes of non-therapeutic vaccines is to reduce population. That comes after causing other harm to increase allopathic income. you pretend that he didnt include the one he pushes the most. Nope, but you see in order to see that would require you to read. Which you dont seem very keen to do. Reducing mortality, reduces birth rate. As for the dose of polysorbate 80, it is working. Its simply impossible for that to be true you are getting exposure to that from so many other sources in so much higher quantities that the microscopic amount in a vaccine couldnt have any effect. Not to mention that we already know the level thats required to act as a contraceptive and this is literally millions of times lower. So youve refuted your own argument if its strong enough to act at 11 million times lower than the published amount then vaccines cant contribute significantly. Not to mention that like any injected or oral contraceptive it would wear off. So how strong does this have to be to not only have effect but sufficient effect to last more than a few hours? Progesterone for example requires 200 mg doses taken daily for thirty days before you can even count on it to have any useful effect. Which means that polysorbate 80 something you get from makeup, ice cream, etc has to be 240,000 x more potent than progesterone. In order for the 50 mcg to provide even a month of coverage. So the chemistry simply says no. U.S. teen pregnancy have been reduced to be less than half of what was previously reported. Wow, something at some unspecified point in the the past is different than it is today? How convincing! Again most of the drop in teen pregnancy happened in the US between 1991 and 2011. So Gardasil introduced in 2008 had virtually no effect on that rate. Please learn to do a simple regression analysis before you post again. Why do I need to read Mr. non-therapeutic vaccine eugenicist Bill Gates video? Why do I need to read Well now you definitely need some comprehension skills. See you were talking about me in the sentence that I quoted. Hence one would normally expect that what you needed to read was my post which you didnt or at least not very carefully. Current non-therapeutic HPV vaccines polysorbate 80 dose is reducing fertility now. Sorry thats just something you made up. Chemistry says youre wrong. You can try to claim that ingested doses are the same as injected doses I dont have to. We know[1] that 90% gets excreted however since youre talking about thousands to millions of times the dose. You will easily reach the same levels as an injected dose. Ill go with your strange picked years of 1991 to 2011 Theyre not stranger or picked, if you look at the CDC graphs of teenage pregnancy. They are the inflection points. Even your picked numbers match what was stated. Actually its the opposite. HPV can not be responsible for any decline in teenage pregnancy IF the mechanism is polysorbate 80. There is too much and too little response. Remember you are claiming this is 40 000x stronger than progesterone. You havent be able to show a consistent factor between the dose, the timing, or the outcome. [1]Evaluation Report of Food Additives, Polysorbates, Food Safety Commission 2007 Gates support experimentation on the poor obviously. I wonder how often hes offered to use his children? Its like senators in favor of war not sending their children to be maimed and killed. polysorbate 80 is found in pickles and I recently saw it listed in vitamins sold at WalMart Tell us who has more medical training, Gates or Wakefield et al? Gates isnt a doctor or vaccine researcher is he? Buh Wah Ha Ha We should be so lucky. Even your parents may have made a better choice. He and a well respected biochemist and microbiologist ( Glenn Dettman ) did extensive research and their conclusion was correct: That these babies who died were borderline scorbutic and that the vaccines depleted what little vitamin C they had which led to their death. He proved this was the case because by supplementing with vitamin C before vaccinating NONE died. And if you kept researching you would have seen, after doing more research, he also said; The further I looked into it the more shocked I became. I found out the whole vaccine business was indeed a gigantic hoax. Most doctors are convinced that they are useful, but if you look at the proper statistics and study the instance of these diseases you will realize that this is not so. Johnny your refuting this proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that you ARE a paid representative of the pharmaceutical industry. I keep a record of your answers and use them very effectively I might add to show people the degree people like yourself will go to to support the maiming of our kids through vaccines. Anxiously waiting for your reply. He and a well respected biochemist and microbiologist did extensive research Not in that book they didnt. I mean, if you actually read it but why would you do that. The line you quote is from an interview which doesnt say he did extensive research he said he looked into it. So this isnt him actually doing science, its just him confirming his existing biases. Johnny your refuting this proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that you ARE a paid representative of the pharmaceutical industry. Because I took the time to read something and you just make crap up? I keep a record of your answers and use them very effectively Sorry Ron, I doubt you even are able to read my responses effectively. Anxiously waiting for your reply. Great! As I said making you look like an idiot is win/win. As always Hammy testifies and claims no one but he reads or researches anything. He sits on a mound of bullcrap daring us to knocked him off it. I thought he recommended Vit C before vaccination? That was the Vitamin C thing wasnt it? The evidence says that whatever increased risk is run in the days immediately after the shot is more than made up for by decreased risk for all the time afterward. SIDS is less likely to strike vaccinated babies. Andrew Lazarus, people have posted before that they have read opinions like that. Yep they play research games. A British study set out to show there were as many people with autism over 40 as there are under 40. They used 18 year olds as some of the over 40 group. Imagine them being so blatantly dishonest. Other studies include vaccinated children in unvaccinated categories. That makes little sense. children are healthier the closer to their vaccination date What is that? Wheres you science proving such a thingwhatever it is. Read the study. More accurately there is no correlation between mortality of children and vaccination date. Which you would expect if vaccines are killing them. Well if you OFFICIALLY deny it, you can do wonders with correlation. Whatever you need to tell yourself to so you can deal with the horrible person you are. Im dealing with younuff said Its not only killing them but ruining their health for the rest of their lives! Allergies, auto immune disorders like CIDP, and other nerve related diseases, mental / emotional problems. The number of kids taking Ritalin today is unconscionable. I know of more people being diagnosed with BI-Polar disorder, and receiving disability payments because of it, that its beyond ridiculous. Its not only killing them but ruining their health for the rest of their lives! The points Im dealing with here are that Judith claimed that people are DYING after the pentavalent short (presumably significantly more than any other shot). This is a) Obviously ridiculous and b) deceptive of Judith to use this quote. If you wish to move the goalposts to some other outcome which was not being discussed feel free but youre only weakening your argument. And obviously you are a Pharma plant. Comments like that only make you look more ignorant. Good one Pharma boy. Its just the truth. So you admit your a Pharma boy. Normal English parsing rules would indicate that when I said: Its just the truth, Im referencing the object of your sentence. Which was: Comments like that only make you look more ignorant. Being pretty hard on yourself, but OK if thats how you see it. Again, English parsing rules would indicate that the you in Comments like that only make you look more ignorant is referencing you AutismDadd. Could have fooled me and did. I guess being fooled comes easy to you. Actually its my first time Nope. Let me guess you have data and variants variants? Arent you the variant lover? Perhaps you need to figure out what word you are saying before you say it? The term variant has numerous meanings, chose the one that applies best. So you dont know what you are saying. If you did you could apply the one that YOU meant. Im being courteous you might want to follow my lead. Not at this point you werent. See always disagreeable. You need a Guru and a coffee enema Im just pointing out that you were still being belligerent. Hardly. But its better than accusing me of harassment When you harass people you will be pointed out as a harasser. When you learn to stop Ill stop. Question is why did you start that whining in the first place. Its simple. I mentioned you were harassing people when you were harassing people. No its not that. Youre just a whiner. Be in denial all you want. You do harass people. Sorry. What are you talking about? What is a non therapeutic vaccine? No one destroyed any data. Are oyu talking about the Hooker/Wakefield tapes? That data was stored on servers and harddrives. It was never destroyed. You cannot destroy data by putting one set of papers in a trashcan. That is ridiculous. If that happened at all, and I doubt they put anything in a trashcan, they would have shred every paper copy and purged the servers of all digital copies. Kathy, non-therapeutic vaccines are the opposite of therapeutic vaccines. I dont appreciate the semantics game you are playing. You are trying to make preventative vaccines seem like a bad idea. Vaccines are the reason millions of people dont get VPDs every single year in every single country where they are used. Non-therapeutic vaccines cause much more issue than they could prevent assuming that they ever prevented anything. Look up the difference between attenuated live virus vaccines and wild- type viruses sometime. Mike Stevens, nothing to look up. Mike deflection Stevens at work There are just too many total whacks on here right now. I cant handle them! I am just going to ignore both users whos names begin with A, from now on. Well we wont ignore you Pharma plant. Be sure to count yourself as one. Of course you dont because it shows what a fool you are. Poor Kathy her precious vaccines arent perfect so she is having a meltdown. As we see Kathy has a conniption if you diss vaccines. Lol, she changed her avatar. Is it now Satan like? She blocked me so she doesnt see my masterful replies. Her avatar should be the No Bullshit sign with the circle and line with the bull humped over. Such a fraud, and a flower, reminds me of TV advertising No data was destroyed. If you are referring to the whistleblower manufactoversy, no data was destroyed. There was no fraud. The paper copies of data was, perhaps, put into a waste basket for shredding, but every scientist in the study had copies on his or her harddrive, it was on the MADDS server (the original source for the data) and backed up on the CDC server. It was never destroyed at all. As Thompsons official statement declares, this was a difference of opinion about how the data was analyzed. It has since been analyzed by other scientists, including a PhD autism researcher with an autistic child, and the original analysis stands strong. There is no isolated autism. There is no greater risk for African American boys between the age of 24-36 months. It has all been debunked. Quite thoroughly. This blog post has been tracking all the claims and the facts since the story broke 22 months ago. www dot harpocratesspeaks dot com/2014/09/mmr-cdc-and-brian-hooker-media-guide.html Kathy, again, you are referring to bias opinions from websites trying to cover-up what was already announced. STATEMENT OF WILLIAM W. THOMPSON, Ph.D., REGARDING THE 2004 ARTICLE EXAMINING THE POSSIBILITY OF A RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN MMR VACCINE AND AUTISM My name is William Thompson. I am a Senior Scientist with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, where I have worked since 1998. I regret that my coauthors and I omitted statistically significant information in our 2004 article published in the journal Pediatrics. The omitted data suggested that African American males who received the MMR vaccine before age 36 months were at increased risk for autism. Decisions were made regarding which findings to report after the data were collected, and I believe that the final study protocol was not followed. Its been thoroughly debunked. I can use my bias opinions to debunk the bias opinions of the previous debunkers. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/33e1b37eb7b5e8eb7232b71222fe95848215e84c12f4a4622d4e22251b14aba9.jpg Kathy the Queen of Denial I like the cute 1920s signs but by the 1950s, measles was harming few. Not true about measles in the 50s. Incidence was higher in the 50s than ever before. Death rate was lower, due to antibiotics and other meds, but deafness and encephalitis and pneumonia were still affecting tens of thousands of Americans a year. Same in all western countries. Here is USA data. Measles incidence was 289/ 100,000 in 1912 and 310 cases/100,000 in 1953-62. jid dot oxfordjournals dot org/content/189/Supplement_1/S17.long Kathy, I did not say or imply whether we had fewer or more measles cases in the 1950s. I would highly recommend you look into taking the Coursera courses on vaccines. You will learn a lot. Have a nice day. Kathy, isnt Dr. Paul Offit to one that is making the money from the non-therapeutic rotavirus vaccine that has killed so many infants with intussusception? No, Dr Offit, along with colleagues, Drs Stanley and Clark, spent 25 years researching and developing a vaccine for rotavirus. Three vaccines have been developed, over the years, and the one they developed is one of two excellent vaccines currently in use. They never wanted to patent it but that is part of how things work these days. They shared a few million dollars, as co-inventors, and sold the patent to CHOP. A few million each is hardly a big deal compared to 25 years working hard, never knowing a vaccine would work or not. Their vaccines saves millions of lives a year and prevents hundreds of millions of rota infections every year, internationally. The rotavirus vaccine with the intussusception risk that was deemed to high was removed from the market years ago. Kathy, I still dont care to attend any course/sales pitch from people that openly killed children. They might get a few more while Im listening to the sales pitch. Smallpox vaccine was discontinued because we had conquered small pox. Ever hear of cases anymore. Nope! Thanks to the vaccine. Polio rate was very high in 1950s, when we had treated waste water and clean water in almost all homes. There is no such thing as chemical polio. Try looking at the countries that today use DDT to fight mosquitoes and, yet, have no polio. Diphtheria and rubella were conquered by vaccines. Rubella has been eradicated from all of the Americas, tip to tip. As of 2015. Its quite an accomplishment. The problem wish self quarantine is that most of these diseases are contagious before you realize what you have. So, you spread them around BEFORE you can quarantine. Thats why vaccines are so marvelous. Kathy, you have it backwards. 1. People are being forced to have their children and themselves assaulted with non-therapeutic vaccines. Here is the history of smallpox vaccine http://pediatrics dot aappublications dot org/content/110/4/841 Kathy, does the bias opinions at that site follow the bias opinions of the people that published it trying to fulfill their fiduciary duty? Pediatrics is a highly esteemed medical journal. You consider valid science unscrupulous? Therein lies the problem and the reason we mandate vaccines. Because of people like you. We have to save people from their own poor choices. Kathy, based on your history of posting unscrupulous web sites links, Ill still pass. It is a shame you dont want to learn. Kathy, I learned that you switch from: semantics (n.) science of meaning in language, 1893, from French smantique (1883); see semantic (also see -ics). Replaced semasiology (1847), from German Semasiologie (1829), from Greek semasia signification, meaning. force (v.) c. 1300, forcen, also forsen, exert force upon (an adversary), from Old French forcer conquer by violence, from force strength, power, compulsion (see force mandate (v.) 1620s, to command, from mandate from etymology online. you are welcome You dont have to save anyone but if you insist then go save the 250,000 per year that die from medical intervention and prescribed drugs. You are quoting Mercola. He made that up. If you look at US stats on mortality, there is no listing for died from drugs prescribed to them. I suggest that you check the FDA Adverse Reaction web pages: Year..DeathsSerious Now add people that FDA approved dope used in an FDA prescribed manner killing people at home. Smallpox was never eradicated by vaccines, impossible because only 10% of the world was ever vaccinated That extra 90% is herd immunity bonus! Small pox was not endemic in all countries. In endemic countries, the WHO goal was to vaccinate as close to 80% of the population as possible. That was achieved in most of those countries and that is why we eradicated it. Lol you need some more reading. Was scarlet fever, cholera and thyroid also irradicated by vaccines? Lindaxox, please add malaria to your list. Another cute poster. You are full of them. Any proof they make big bucks? U.S. allopathic medicine is soaking up more than one-sixth of the U.S. economy. SV40 has been found in cancer tumors but there is no evidence it causes cancer. None. Thoroughly studied. All the evidence is linked in this blog post. www dot skepticalraptor dot com/skepticalraptorblog.php/polio-vaccines-cancer-debunking-myth/ Thanks. I knew that. I really wanted to see somitcw stumble for a while on that, so the lurkers could see what nonsense that is. Sonja Henie, it wasnt me that stumbled. Kathy, you found an opinion piece trying to explain away SV40 cancers caused by non-therapeutic vaccines. Vaccine mandates do not violate Nuremburg because you can decline to vaccinate and you are fully informed before you vaccinate. Kathy, that is multiple dishonesties from the pit of Hades. Hey, if you think this is a real Nuremburg violation, please contact Amnesty International and the UN and get back to us with what they say. What kind of physician is antivax? Thats strange. Are you an MD or a chiro? Chiropractor (in WV, I think), with such interesting ideas I would like to subscribe to her newsletter*. *h/t: Homer Simpson The first issue is that I dont conduct studies so you are asking the wrong person. PS Your source still doesnt provide proof that SV40 caused cancer in a human. It said (and that is just the opinion of this one article you cherrypicked) that there is a possible etiologic role in human malignancies. Future research directions are considered. Mike Stevens, We have the right to refuse ANY medical treatment or experiment WITHOUT INFORMED CONSENT. From wikipedia (emphasis mine): The Nuremberg code includes such principles as informed consent and absence of coercion; properly formulated scientific experimentation; and beneficence towards experiment participants. People who show up at their doctors office for vaccination are not part of a clinical trial. Jonathan Graham, you are incorrect on many accounts. Untilall the known risks are known Since all known risks are known by definition. Ill assume you mean something like all the potentially known risks are known. In which case this restricts all medicine. Since the authors clearly considered some medicine to be acceptable your standard is clearly not what was intended by the authors of the code and therefore the code can not be part of an argument against vaccination. So either better define your terms or provide words from the mouths of the authors specifically restricting work like our current use and development of vaccination. Jonathan Graham, you still wont or cant define phrases like person years in vaccine charts that you try to prove something that is not there, but suggest that I define my terms our current use and development of vaccination which I didnt even use. but suggest that I define my terms our current use and development of vaccination which I didnt even use. Nope. Again this is a reading comprehension problem for you. I didnt say YOU need to define these terms Im saying that the claim vaccination violates the Nuremberg code doesnt mean anything unless you can meet that criteria. You cant. You might as well be whining about someone breaking the ground speed limit in an airplane. Jonathan Graham, getting sillier all of the time. I never stated that vaccination violates the Nuremberg code Yawn. Never said you did. I said that the CLAIM is meaningless until you can meet the criteria I set out. In future please read my posts at least three or four times before posting. Constantly correcting you is tiresome. Jonathan Graham, you certainly were not responding to someone else. I wasnt aware of much at all. Entirely unsurprising. people enforcing the Nuremberg Code What was said was: the CLAIM is meaningless until you can meet the criteria I set out Again, please read my post at least four or five times before typing. Imagine anyone believing that paying out over 3 billion though a Vaccine Injury Compensation Program constitutes evidence that vaccines are unsafe. Sounds like something Brian Deer would claim. Better awareness. Then why has all-cause infant mortality dropped with more vaccines, Adad? Surprise me. Thats not proof, its a simple statement of what has been done and what is done. Just curious, how many children have been diagnosed with Autism who have not been vaccinated? I just realized that the same pro-vaxxers continue to appear in all comments relating to this issue. The same names keep popping up on every discussion board and are desperately trying to defend Pharma and bring down anything or anyone who questions vaccines. How interesting and typical. All you really needed to see was shout out goes to Mike Adams, the Health Ranger to know this was total bullshlt. Another adverse effect that occurs with a number of vaccines is anorexia, but as with the other explanations we seem to get from Psychiatry is that young girls and boys simply want to look like models. Well Ill have to ask for the science on that while Psychiatry ignores anorexia as a vaccine side effect. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/fbfff6bdef04547faae43f0f44ae539c8dbb6651b241fcf1aaa3775e138f0893.jpg The history of vaccineshilarious. google Google U Hammy? 