Camping on Your Own Land is Now Illegal Govt Waging War on Off-Grid LivingBy Jay Syrmopoulos As zoning laws have increasingly targeted the off-grid lifestyle, many have moved to the Southwestern U.S. as an escape from overzealous zoning officials. In Costilla County, Colorado, there has been a major influx of off-grid residents to the San Luis Valley. The combination of lax zoning regulations, cheap property, and an already thriving community of self-reliant off-grid homesteaders has led to many new residents. The off-grid lifestyle, enjoyed by an estimated 800 people, is now being threatened as county officials have recently made moves to essentially regulate and license the lifestyle into oblivion. Tensions boiled over during a county commissioners meeting in San Louis, Colorado, devolving into a shouting match between homesteaders and police.One of the major points of contention is the countys attempt to ban camping on your own property, in an effort to force the off-grid homesteaders back onto the grid. We are residents who have come to live off the grid. Its all our land. These are harsh economic times. We have nowhere to go, twenty-year resident Paul Skinner said. Weve been regulated out of life, homesteader Robin Rutan told Colorado Public Radio. I came here because I couldnt live by the codes [in other regions]. The county, which requires residents to have a camping permit to live in an RV, small house or other camp style home, has started to simply refuse the renewal of these permits. This is obviously a major problem for homesteaders, who often live in such accommodations while building their permanent residents. They started enforcing the changes before they were actually made, resident Chloe Everhart said. Everhart said she performed due diligence prior to buying her land, with one of the most important aspects of the plan being a 90-day camping permit. Without a 90-day permit, camping on residential plots is only allowed for 14 days per every three months. But just as Everhart was arriving, the board of commissioners instructed the planning and zoning commission to no longer issue camping permits. In spite of her best efforts, Everhart is now an outlaw. County land use administrator Matt Valdez disputes the claims that the county is trying to regulate peoples lifestyles out of existence. He says that his office has discretion to deny camping permits under existing codeand claims that too many new residents were habitually renewing permits meant to be temporary. Were not trying to drive people off their property, Valdez said. Valdez said he simply wants to make sure already established rules are followed for aesthetic and safety reasons. The vilification of people who choose to live an alternative lifestyle is extremely commonplace in modern America. While there may be legitimate issues that need to be addressed, people have a right to use land that they own in the manner they see fit. To use the technicalities of the law to essentially evict people from land they own reeks of tyrannical overreach and oppression of personal liberty. Jay Syrmopoulos is an investigative journalist, free thinker, researcher, and ardent opponent of authoritarianism. He is currently a graduate student at University of Denver pursuing a masters in Global Affairs. Jays work has been published on Ben Swanns Truth in Media, Truth-Out, AlterNet, InfoWars, MintPressNews and many other sites. You can follow him on Twitter @sirmetropolis, on Facebook at Sir Metropolis and now on tsu unbelievable. People being forced to live how someone else decides concerning how they acquire water and power is obviously an attempt to deny people the right to live outside of corporate dictate. The US is no longer a democracy and this kind of thinking is a clear an indication that the major corporate entity run by the richest people on the planet will be served at the expense of everyone. Unfortunately you are slightly incorrect. The US is a democracy! When 51% of the people tell the other 49% how they have to live, you have a democracy. The US is (supposed) to be a Constitutional Republic. Where if it isnt in the constitution then they can not force you to obey it. Worse than that it is a representative democracy. Its like dumb(democracy) and dumber(representative democracy). The US is run by oligarchy. All the rest is a lie for children. the US is and always has been Socialism/Communism blended in connect dots and look history up. how do yu think bernie sanders got as far as he is So just how did we get Gay rights laws when 78% of the U.S. was against it the lawsNo we do not still live in a Democratic countryWe do , however; live in a Socialist Democratic Party countryThanks to the likes of Obama, Hillary, Bill, Bernie Sanders and the Socialistic Supreme Court U.S. Gov. is also a private corporation, did you know that? yep pretty obvious DEFY these criminal rules and protect your neighbors from the code enforcers by any means necessary. Most people would not have the courage to resist even if their own children were being raped to death right in front of them. You and I will never be free because far too many people in this world are natural born slaves. They will always be the majority. Its not enough to kill the politicians and the enforcers, we actually need to kill all the sheeple FIRST because until we annihilate the slaves, the slavemasters will always have new soldiers to fight for them. Mama Banana this is one of the most specious arguments I have ever heard against working people good thing your arguments only resonates with a tiny delusional majority working people see thru it before even finishing reading about it. I guess folks should try and understand what is wrong with fee simple land ownership because the correct wording should say, Why you folks cannot camp on that land leased to you via fee simple tenant status only use. Means they own it. So how did they end up owning all of the land both public and private? Easy, they lied to you for over two hundred years. Read the Paris Treaty. Google James Montgomery, America is still a British Colony.. Why is it that even if you have the fee simple deed youre still required to pay rent? And if you dont have the rent money why is it they can throw you off your land in this free society? Yup, America is owned by The British Royal Crown of England! Yes, and then when we go back around 1213 and review the succession of the British Empire by King John to the Pope we really have ourselves an eye opening moment. This has been in effect for a long time already, especially here in Michigan. Townships dont want property owners living cheap like in campers year-around. It depreciates property values for other landowners because its an eye-soar. Many Mexicans (migrant workers) coming up from Texas to Michigan live like this and it makes your country side look shabby. However, if a person wants to disconnect from the power company, they should have the right to do so.. If the looks are somehow deemed more important than people having a place to live, they could make legislation that makes decent fencing mandatory. This is how the libs care for the poor kick them off their last asset, their land. Tent cities everywhere, in almost every city in the nation. Paid for with the money of working tax payers. And these people want to set regulations on personal property, determining how you must live? Maybe they should mind their own damn business.The law should protect all of the people. not taking sides. This is more about money grubbing utility companies, politicians.. Its also a way for people who are trying to find a way to kick people off their land so they can grab it.. I think you would find its not the libs doing this, but rather the opposite. Well ok then, Statists of all stripes, on the so-called left (socialist/communist) and the so-called right (corporatist/fascist). There is very little difference between the two anyway, they both want to enslave us all under their form of collectivism. no taxes, money coming in? this is just wrong to me, IF these people dont pile up trash and crap, LEAVE THEM ALONE. Id be there but its to far to go! They need an armed militia to defend their property. That is the only language these tyrants understand. Lets see some cops or whoever go onto that property to enforce these illegal ordinances and lets see who wants to die? The land owners have nothing left to lose so they wont be backing down. Make it a huge standoff and bring in the news coverage to expose these scumbags. If they want to engage well see a lot of dead cops. Just ask them what facts they rely on to prove that there codes apply to YOU.They have none. And so we see the UNs Sustainable Development agenda at work. When are North Americans going to realize that the UN is the shadow government and it dances to the tune of the One World Order? Everything else and everyone else is window dressing. Why do you think we see all these false flag operations and a militarized police force? Democracy is just a wordto be interpreted now by One World Order measure.. If you think this is bad, in Ontario, Canada, the government has put our health and very lives in the hands of a select few called Collegesand they get to decide what healthcare treatments we can expect and when. Natural therapies, holistic education and even dietary advice is now a punishable offence. The #1 killer and disabler is now in charge of eliminating safe and effective quacks. We have all participated in our own demise by running to the big corporations, buying into their convenience, protection and slick marketing schemes. We can turn the tide only when we stop buying junk food, backing down when conservation authorities and building code tyrants come-a-knocking, refusing to see conventional medical system tyrants and buying into the pill for everything story. Grace.you are a wise woman. I have Lyme disease and it has afforded me the time to do a lot of studying on the workings of the medical system, the government and big pharma ..and the dangers trusting them .with anything. Herbs ,diet, simple remedies and lifestyle changes are the only thing that will actually cure any disease. Never poison. With Agenda 2030 and its un- population agenda if people would wake up and realize what they were putting into onto their bodies was killing them and start using natural God given herbs for their health then they might live.People are too busy to even care that the world is crumbling down around us and that we are complacent in their genocide of the human race. You are correct Grace. The bible talks about this in the book of Daniel. Have no fear though. God said it wont work as iron and clay dont mix, and that He Himself will destroy it. The UN is not a shadow government. That distinction belongs to the Jewish collective. At best the UN is just another distraction, at worst its merely another tool being manipulated by same people that manipulate everything else. They sell poison at a premium in shiny uniform boxes and say were crazy if we dont want to buy it. Heres an important bit of info, we are not engaged in commerce when we buy directly from each other. As Hippocrates said, Let your food be your medicine, and I will add, buy real food from real peopleEven if we use fake money to do that, we are better off and those who grow real food are also better off. Its a revolutionary act to pack your own lunch and the lunch of your children. Corporations are only interested in preserving their bottom line. We must be interested in preserving our very lives. Rise up. FEEL THE BERN I was served an order by a sheriff from the health officer a couple months agoa family practice M.D. It ordered me to complete a septic system permit application and to pay the fee ($450) with the usual threats that I can be jailed for not complying. Im not making this up folks. I have been threatened with jail if I do not give them hundreds of dollars. Ive gone rounds with the county health district for the last 5 years. I have consistently refused to put in a septic system. I wont go into the evidence and research showing that the dry composting system I am using is the best system due to my proximity to wetlands and a shallow clay layer. Its a 20 acre parcel, half wetlands half pasture. While I have access (even though rented outgood people) to the fully approved septic with RV port attached to the modern house I built under their codes and approvals, Im not going there with them. The stakes are too high to take the easy out. Currently we are in a stalemate. I am not the property owner. I put the land into the Spokane Habitat Trust when I bought it 15 years ago, as listed on the county tax roll. Im the trustee and get to use a small off-grid cabin for managing the property. I also finalized putting it back into land patent status and it has been filed as such on the deed in the auditors office for the last 3 years. I responded that I wasnt the owner and not authorized to speak on their behalf but was compelled to respond since the order was to me. The application form (I didnt use of course) is just about how the system will be designed so I did a single sentence under the heading Application for septic permit per Health Department Order. It reads The proprietary practices within the patented boundaries of the parcel at issue and as approved for use by the Board of Directors of the property owner are proven effective to protect the public health and will continue. Under the heading of Payment of Septic Application Fee per Health Department Order I wrote, The value of my labor to respond to the order and threat issued in this matter pertaining to property I do not own is greater than the fee ordered to be paid therefore it is paid in full. I ended with the parting shot that, given they have been harassing me for 5 years without a single shred of evidence I am threatening the public healththat they have now crossed the line to the criminal act of extortion. Failure to immediately cease and desist their harassment will result in criminal charges. The silence of their non-response has been deafening. You can be sure theyll be back at some point. Cheers, Dennis PattersonStevens County Washington Super job Stay with it Hello fellow Washingtonian, {Spokane}. I feel it necessary to warn you that under the EPAs new water laws you might be in serious trouble. I hope that isnt the case, but they passed these laws in accordance with agenda 21 for the sole purpose of stealing peoples private property. Good luck. EPA? That joke? The same EPA which thought warned went on and caused the release of MILLIONS of gallons of poison into the Animas river and has done NOTHING to correct it? The same EPA which promotes stealing our money for these idiotic wind [non]generators, which leak oil into the ground, give less than 3% of the power, disturb wind patterns and MURDER MILLIONS of birds a year? That epa? They can go fly a kite!!! Yeah, that EPA. You know the one obama will let get away with murder? Its actually the countys critical areas ordinance that is the problem. The county absolutely will not respect that we own the land and have since a decade before they passed their ordinancewe are grandfathered. I have friends who are dealing with the EPA rules to fence their cattle off from the spring on their land. Theyve given EPA the finger. So far so good When you think you bought the land, you didnt. Corp. U.S. still owns it, so send the bills to them! You are a true Great Amereican Patriot Hero, Dennis! They get away with this a lot these days because most people cant afford or are too busy to fight them. One of the overlooked reasons for these new efforts to intrude upon peoples privacy and property is the fact that these mismanaged, greedy, feckless county and municipal authorities are dole drunk on our taxes and in incestual configuration, they are going broke just like the Fed G. Couple that with the insidious Agenda-21 plan and the modest private landowner is in for a long battle. Youre not hearing a peep out of them until they figure out how to sidestep you and put you back on the defensive. While youre waiting, Gun up with a good lawyer with passion for such legal combat in preparation for at least an injunction, pending an outside analysis, but dont be surprised if you dont get it as theres a lot of nepotism and inbreeding in rural areas and the judge might also be part of it. Then the local news media might endorse the fight for readership value and usually a municipal board doesnt like the publicity exposing their greedy harrassment motivations, and lastly you might have to initiate a State Class Action civil rights lawsuit if you can find anyone else with similar problems in your state. Thank you for your civilian combat service! Admirable approach, I wish you all the best. It is a crime that people cannot actually own land..but actually, nobody should own any land; it should be held in trust for those who can demonstrate good stewardship of it by keeping it free of chemicals. But the government should not have the power (or any incentive) to tell us what we can or cannot do, other than to regulate obvious, proven polluters. Ill bet you could find any number of far more serious contamination issues in your political jurisdiction. Maybe you should try to overload them with legitimate things to fight so they leave you alone. Septic systems are not the best way to deal with human waste, either, especially when so much non-waste (gray water) is injected into the system unnecessarily. Stipulate a reasonable time frame for response and hold their administrative (maritime) feet to the fire. If you dont know your rights, you dont have them. They are not granted by government, but by our Creator YHVH, and impinging upon them is coming against the Creator Himself. Well done. They are frightened of someone challenging their authority so you must be made an example. You blaze a trail for others to follow. KUDOS Any sheriffs deputy that started telling people that they cant camp on their own land probably wont live to collect a pension Valdez needs to go back to Mexico.. LOCK AND LOAD AND WHEN THEY ARRIVE TAKE THEM DOWN MY LAND IS MY CASTLEMY GUNS SAY SO Land ownership is a delusion. You never own the land, even if there is mortgage. Its just a big scam by the bankers and government. Yeah, buy a house and ask the paperwork name you as the Superior Owner and not just a Tennant also ask for the original land deedand they will freak out! Good point, but I really dont think theyll freak out theyll tell make it a court case. Courts have been usurped by British Admiralty Law of the Sea, instead of Natural / Common Laws. Thats why Judges, Attorneys, Prosecutors, Defense, etc. all must pass The BAR. Hey, I hear ya, and years ago I had my homes deed worded in some way dont remember the details but we coincidently were sued over a land dispute, and the plaintiffs lawyer was totally flummoxed by the way all our property was held. He could do nothing, and never even told us what we did was wrong or illegal. So you can fight these people, and win, though it is in reality a major pain in the butt to title your property like that. One of the big hassles was finding insurance insurance companies will just not deal with deeds held in a certain way. Bottom line is the powers at large do as they damn please. Yup, thats because you dont own the land / property. SORRY, but what your government is doing is ILLEGAL! You must warn them that they face TREASON. You must warn the communist running it and I dont know what they are doing running it? Do you???? God forbid if they ever catch someone pissing on a tree on their own property. Thats a valid point. You obviously know nothing about the actual history of WW2, Hitler, the Jewish effort to subvert Germany, etc. Hitlers only mistake was going after little Jews, instead of the big Jewry. This view is too simplistic. Are you saying that its Jewish influence that is causing a inflict? The problem with Hitler? He wasnt killed soon enough We shall start a spiritual and material war of the whole world against Germany. Germany is striving to become once again a great nation, and to recover her lost territories as well as her colonies. But our Jewish interests call for the complete destruction of Germany Vladimir Jabotinsky, in Nascha Rjetsch (January, 1934) Germany is getting too strong. Weve got to smash her. Winston Churchill (1936) We will force this war upon Hitler, if he wants it or not. Winston Churchill (1936 broadcast) The prevailing financing system is no longer based on production capacity, and money as a mean of redistribution has become a commodity that can, like any other commodity, be bought and sold. Or, in other words: the disease that will cause the ruin of the world is called usury. France and England were allied to each other because both are built on the power of money and are under the domination of the international banking system. Germany has liberated herself from this international power and so becomes an object of suspicion. She is already working with the concept value-labor and thats what we want to avoid at all costs. Already we are feverishly active in the destruction of this country. Financiers have nothing to lose in it and everything to gain. British General Fuller (1937) More quotes wanted ? Vladimir Jabotinsky was a champion of Jewish people due to the horrid ways in which they were treated in that time. To take quotes out of context does not make these people responsible for the war. No one is is even allowed to deny the holocaust in Germany as it is against the law. No one can display the swastika as it too is against the law. It does not matter that symbol was not of hate until Hitler made it so. Hitler was an evil man that was himself of Jewish ancestry. Regardless the cause of the war, It can never be laid at the feet of Jewish people. These are a people who have been beaten down through history and have risen to the top every time. Just as Israel is a great nation, Jews are great people. You are a talented propaganda regurgitator sister. There are two sides to every story, and Israel (or at least it Zionist controllers) has now officially become what they claim to despise. Mass murderers. Putin will keep them in check in Syria for the time being. Thanks for your total moronic spew of idiocy; Had your head wedged between your butt cheeks very long? Yes! By all means, attack the messenger, but dont even attempt to try to prove them wrong have you forgotten how many innocent people America has and continues to SLAUGHTER????? Holocaust great destruction and death due to fireThe great fires of London and Roman are examples. So I can be arrested and jailed for telling the truth and you thing its a great idea. The Jews never suffered a holocaust they where simply mass murdered along with a lot of other people. What not good enough for you pathetic lying pieces of crap, does not fit your pathetic fake victim scam Make the world a better place hang idiots like D. Tucker. Being hurt is not an excuse to hurt others. Holocaust and what former President Jimmy Carter calls apartheid Excellent Ten thumbs down for you. What ????? Economic warfare is good when its done by our team even though its no less criminal than when its done by the other team ? You must be a relativist/Communist, dandelion ! American, British, French, Jewish hypocrites their only ideology is ME ME ME. Again, in plainer English, Germany is getting too strong. Weve got to smash her. Winston Churchill (1936) .The roots of war were envy, greed and fear.- Major General J.F.C. Fuller, historian, England Is Churchills and Fullers English not plain enogh for you, girlie ? In the course of the 19th century the British changed their primary target from Russia to Germany. They fought Russia in the Crimea War, for instance, to prevent Russia from gaining access to the sea. Britain wanted to maintain their hegemony on trade, especially with India. But as Germany became an industrial giant they decided they wanted to isolate Germany. They did not want competition from Germany, whose industrial products could undersell those of Great Britain. They did what they could to oppose the railway from Berlin to Baghdad, for instance. They could have prevented WWI, but chose not to. They then, along with France, made sure the Treaty of Versailles imposed harsh measures on Germany, including steep reparation payments. And with Germany being stripped of all its assets and gold it could not pay the reparations, nor could it really operate in an international trade organization run by bankers and based on the gold standard. What Germany ended up doing was trading with countries to its east on what amounted to barter deals. This goes to the Fuller quote above. The trade and banking policies of the west isolated and impoverished Germany, and thus pushed them into a situation that Nazis were able to exploit. After WWII the same policies were aimed at Russia. Russia was to be isolated because they did not want to be exploited by western banking and trade practices. You need to worry about the country you live in and how they are taking our money and putting it in their pockets leave Germany out of this they have come a long way to be strong. Their people benefit from their government we dont from our government wake up.. Your comment does not make much sense to me. Hate to break it to you. He wasnt killed at all. That story washed pretty well with post-WW2 sheep, (as did the news about Hiroshima that stories of civilians dying of radiation was all propaganda) but there is OVERWHELMING evidence come to light that he went to Argentina with a whole lot of other high-ranking nazis to live out his remaining days peacefully. The corpses left behind were substitutes (not very good ones), but the allies were not going to admit he got away, it made them look pretty bad. Research it yourself if you like. I just wanted to corroborate your statement by adding that Hitlers skull was tested found out to be that of a 20 something year old woman. I strongly suggest that those interested in the truth watch a documentary made by a David Cole. A JEWISH investigator that investigated Auschwitz. And for those that dont like the flavor or tone of that statement, check out the latest plaque at Auschwitz. In the 1950s it was 4.2 million killed. 30 years later it dropped to 1.5 million, and today stands at just under 900K. (Thats what the official plaque says, not some conspiracy theory-tard. You ppl can google that for yourselves) So where did the other 3 million dead Jews go? And for those that wanna twist my statement by pointing out what a racist I am for flying the conf. flag, this is just a protest for those FB rainbow flag ppl that think the SCOTUS making the other 14 states capitulate through tyranny a great idea vis a vis gay marriage. What planet are you from? Earth FBI admits Hitler went to Argentina. Ironically, The Simpsons had an episode showing this. Not for lack of trying. Such as seen on PBS Struggles for Poland. And of course, Valkyrie, Tom Cruise, based on true story of von Stauffenberg Hitler was never killed. But of course in your world if something is not reported by the corporate media then it does not exist in reality. Hey idiot, that would make me a democrat. Im far from being one of those. I dont t care if Hitler survived, cause he would have lived in fear till he died. I do my own research, why dont you try that before accusing someone of being a media hound Explain, O Pompous One, just how Churchill and Roosevelt were the mass-murderers. The murderers were Hitler, Stalin, and Mao. You must be a communist to defend the likes of those killers. What a baffoon. Read a book written by someone other than Alynski. You must understand that this war is not against Hitler or National Socialism, but against the strength of the German people, which is to be smashed once and for all, regardless of whether it is in the hands of Hitler or a Jesuit priest. Winston Churchill (1940) Ever heard of carpet-bombing of civilians in WW2 ? Churchill ran the British empire the largest empire on the planet ever. The Brits formed it and maintained through mass murder. Concentration/extermination camps where a British invention first use in South Africa to get rid of the Dutch settlers. Do not bother to research it you are obviously brain dead and like it that way. And I suppose benny nuttyahoo is a saint along with bush and blair?? too much Foux News I think, and as a matter of record the American administration is the number one terrorist regime on the planet Referring to the current administration, I tend to agree with you. They are definitely committing terrorism against the American people. Deliberately incinerating civilians at non military targets such as Nagasaki, Hiroshima, Dresden and Hamburg show that Roosevelt and Churchill were mass murderers, SILLY Roosevelt was dead and Churchill never had one to use. That would be Harry Truman, Sillier. Dresden was firebombed on Roosevelts watch, along with Churchill and the US and British bomber crews involved he bears responsibility for the deaths of all those incinerated civilians, and for all the other German cities targeted under the campaign of terror bombing. My point still stands. The Blitz. Buzz Bombz. V-1s V-2s. Germany and Japan started the carnage before we or the Brits ever got involved. Youll just spew whatever it takes to attempt to put the USA in a bad light. An obvious liberal nut-job.. I dont need to try to put USA in a bad light. The fact youre trying to justify the terror bombing of non military civilian targets for the sole purpose of incinerating women, little kids and the elderly puts USA in a worse light than I ever could. Stalin and Hitler killed 40,000,000 people. But thats okay for lefty-loons. Go away. you are one of the most ignorant people I have ever heard open their mouth. But you lack knowledge. Simple. NO, e just dont believe in rolling in BULLSHYTE like you obviously loved to do. Coming from you, Judenfilth, thats a nice compliment. Thanks. Germany had no chance ! Everyone knew that. EVERYONE who was in power. Yes, Germany did have a chance. Germany couldve won the war if not for Hitlers blunder in allowing the escape of the enemys army trapped at Dunkirk, for example. No. Well its your own personal fantasy so I guess you can have it any way you want it; knock your socks off, Shlomo. I thought you are a bit smarter than that, Harold You wouldnt know thought if your boyfriend shoved it up your ample @ss, goofball. Why read propaganda and blatant stupidity written for morons like YOU to suck up. That was only the first mistake. Failing to pause the war and develop long range bombers and fighters to finish off the Brits was #2. Failing to finish the European, African and Middle east zones of conflict was #3. The final grand bit of stupid was invading Russia and not having the men, equipment and knowledge needed to finish the job. The West did not win Hitler gave it to them, if he really did survive the war and die in South America everything makes sense. Hitler was an agent of the west. Lay off the sauce and the dope! Police cannot enter private property without owners permission. Building codes cannot prevent sleeping in a van: Can they? When you think you buy land / property you are just a tenant, and not the superior owner. And more dead after the collapse. just go to the Denver airport and look at the artwork. Any government or bureaucracy that would put creepy stuff like that on public display certainly isnt looking out for the publics best interest. Thats how fascists roll. They own your government and sent us the bill. Not a bad gig if you dont have a conscience. Kind makes you wonder if they really own the land. This is typical of all governments. They are run by petty tyrants, and they want to tell you how they want you to live. They will use all of the force they have available to force you to obey their contrived laws. The idea is to get as much of your money as possible, and make you jump through the hoops they have arranged. Get your people elected, and change the laws. F*ck Them ! ! ! When Obumo pays my mortgage and all of my utilities I wont camp off the grid Ill be able to afford a roof over my head just saying He has no right to tell a property owner what they can or cannot do. This is still America I hope Are the Law makers crazy that you have a permit to camp or live on your property which you have already paid taxes on the need to be recalled period Get up a few bucks from all the campers and put a retainer down to sue the county for millions in actual damages including psychological stress, etc. Make it a Constitutional class action suit and go and set up a website for donations and ill be the first to throw in a couple hundred bucks. This is happening all over the country as greeedy small rural municipalites and their town/county boards see revenue stars in their eyes so that they could support their freeloading butt-buddies and feckless parasite progeny and inlaws on the tax-payer dole. They also make these No small trailers allowed or make a minimum square footage (usually over a thousand) requirement JUST so they can increase the property taxes they collect! Its time for all self reliant value producers to fight back where they hate it the most. Sue them back to the stone age, and register to vote in your respective county and use that as leverage. It Is all part of the fundamentally change American. I remember that campaign promise. If youre off the grid then they cant monitor you. Thats their problem. Too bad for them. Let them come find you. Vote for Democrats, this is what you get. Some folks camp year round on public and private land and nothing is said, all of a sudden your home away from home is a non occupyable areaIf its not a provable heath risk, the gov needs to stay out of this. We made a monster, a devil out of Hitler. Therefore we couldnt disavow it after the war. After all, we mobilized the masses against the devil himself. So we were forced to play our part in this diabolic scenario after the war. In no way we could have pointed out to our people that the war only was an economic preventive measure. US foreign minister Baker (1992) Not the political doctrine of Hitler has hurled us into this war. The reason was the success of his increase in building a new economy. The roots of war were envy, greed and fear.-Major General J.F.C. Fuller, historian, England Real simple! VOTE the liberal control freaks out of office, then change the laws that are being used for tyranny! Why not form a cooperative and move from property to property every 2 weeks. It is time for everyone to ask every state legislature to consider rescinding their states ratification of the 16th amendment.This government of lawyers and extraneous laws can only be strangled at the pursestrings. You may be interested in some land I have.. Wait, I know. You found it on the internet, so it MUST be true. Yes, somehow the comments drifted to this The British loyalists in the Colonies were exiled to Canada. Where are you going to exile the anti patriots in America Mexico? They have 30 million fake votes ready to go. And immigrant populations that are non citizen are counted in the census, giving California and other Democrat states more electoral votes and seats, just as the Southern Democrats did with slavery. So is the Constitution going to allow you to outvote those 30 million on top of the electoral college rigging? The popular votes for Presidencies were quite even as far as I knew. 30 million one way or another will seal the deal. Amish would have a heck of a time living there. YES YES, FITS you quite well. Is this face of the avatar your real face ? This is another example of politics run amuck. All these political idiots should be run out of office. Then sent to live with other democrats. Too many were renewing permits that were meant to be temporary? Where does it say in the law that they were meant to be temporary? What will they do to the Amish they are not all hooked up are they? GOVERNMENT OVER REACH IS ALSO GOVERNMENT CORRUPTION.IN NO WAY WHAT SO EVER SHOULD ANY AGENCY BE ALLOWED TO DICTATE ANY USE OF YOUR PROPERTYIF WE CHOOSE TO LIVE THERE NAKED IN COMMUNES IN TENTS IT SHOULD BE NOBODYS BUSINESSPERIOD This was a free country Lots of men and women braver than I fought for it Wow these days its hard for Americans to make a living but the refugees are staying in 4 and 5 star hotels in Nashville and other states they get money for everything and this is fair? I was going to take my child off grid to give her a sense of morals and appreciation but it seems any way we turn we are being victimized! The cure is having the ALLOIDAL Title. Learn it and use it. Still reciting 70 year old wartime propaganda ? The problem with USA is people like you who unquestionably recite what the establishment lets you recite. USA USA USA USA ! The next time someone asks who is responsible for the status quo, ask yourself if such draconian laws are passed by the 1%, or the 99%. So the next time someone complains about the 1%, which group should the complaints be aimed at? My comments were made regarding the thread in which living off the grid in some places has been made illegal. And so if im not in the right area just ignore. i think you buy too much into the victors version of things..stop watching the History Channel lies.. Oh my God general plan ost are you crazy ? Such a goofy fraud. Im sorry you lost relatives but in 1939 no one says there was any exterminations as such going on in 1939. They died from the privations of war, similar to the one million German women and children who were roasted alive by Allied bombers- after the Allies had a clear advantage and were winning the war.. i e they were murdered for spite. The claims of the local tyrannical code enforcers that they are just trying to enforce the rules (which are always for our safety of course) is no different than other tyrants throughout history who claim that they were just following orders. Oil was a big reason for the Iraq war. Other war profiteers benefited as well. And after the cold war the US military needed another enemy, so they created a War on Terror. War feeds the military industrial complex. Yes, there are overlapping interests. But eliminating an existential threat to Israel was key. The Iraqi war was not a defensive war, it was an offensive war. Israel has been involved in expansionism ever since its inception. The US, too, engages in offensive wars. The US has not been involved in a defensive war since WWII, and that one is debatable. All rationales given for wars amount to a hill of beans. Wars are based on lies. One needs to come to recognize rhetoric for what it is, and also propaganda for what it is. I agree with you, Israel is just violently squatting on Palestine, and then they cajole us into fighting their wars. WW2 was a bad war, the US should have stayed out, and same goes for WW1. Thanks. Ill take a look. The Palestinians are mostly Hamas as in terrorist. I feel no sadness when one is blown to bits Oh bullcrap! Israel is and always will be supported by those who believe. I for one will stand for Israel and will support Israel You are sadly ignorant. agree Hitler had to be stopped. Period Deprivation of rights under color of law is a crime. Perjury of oath is a crime. All state official without the delegated authority to assault you on your private land without a court order makes them liable for damages in their personal capacity. Learn the law and file a lawsuit. Get help. They are always acting in fraud when coming after your rights. Get help. Do the research. True This is why folks really have got to put a stop to government having so much say in our lives. There is always a price to pay. I guess living here in Texas I hadnt realized this was a problem in some states. You dont need a permit to camp on your own land here, unless you are in a deed restricted subdivision, which would be foolish to have bought land there if you want to camp. Whats interesting here is that the San Luis Valley was traditionally off-grid and not by choice. The original settlers were Hispanic farmers far from any amenities like electricity and plumbing. As late as the 1950s, kerosene lamps, and outhouses were pretty common. we are having the same problem in australia Thats fine as far as public school History goes, but it conveniently leaves out the part that BOTH World Wars were quite literally planned and orchestrated behind the scenes in advance by globalist bankers and financiers who controlled nations and heads of state through fiscal policy and steered them like little cars into the great existential threat of our age. You just repeated what I said in a different way. Public school history book? Find a history high school history book that identifies bankers being involved in funding Germanys economic revitalization and Hilters military might. Conveniently left out? So original, can I steal it? I wasnt writing a dissertation. You just like to argue dont you? Make your self seem smarter I suppose Repeated what you said in a different way? LOL, not hardly, kid. Look, if youre gonna go around using Historical examples to prove your points, you should at least get the History RIGHT and not just repeat pop History talking points for kids that you got brainwashed with in your Rockefeller-Foundation-approved school curriculum. The Treaty of Versailles was a dog and pony show. Both World Wars were planned over two decades in advance and outlined in secret treaties between all the heads of state of belligerent nations, who youll remember, were all cousins. The very fact that you even mentioned the Treaty of Versailles shows you have memorized a fictional History that was meant for plebs. Im not trying to show you up, Im encouraging you to go digging way, way deeper. DISOBEY this is a clearly a step to far against COMMON LAW our government representatives are now too corrupted by big money to serve WE THE PEOPLE and our interests their instructions are now invalid If the rich and their filth want a fight they can have one THIS IS WAR I hope Matt Valdez loses his office entirely. He has overstepped his bounds! What the f*ck ever happened to the right to life, liberty , and the pursuit of happiness? Is that only if its aesthetically pleasing to others? If they dont like it dont look at it. Land is meant for freedom! So why dont we just make everything aesthetically pleasing at the expense of freedom and live in a cookie cutter paradise where we can all the same, talk the same, live in the same houses (with four variants in the color of the paint) and sing Hail Hitler every f*cking day! This really pisses me off! Actually John the Germans suffered unspeakably at the hands of the Zionist banks which is what drove the Germans wholesale towards National Socialism. The Israelis are merely doing overtly what they have done covertly as the Hidden Hand that Benjamin Disraeli and many of the US Founding Fathers pointed out. The Germans were merely sick of being enslaved by the banks and globalists through the Weimar regime. Hitler turned Germany around and ousted the Zionists and returned Grmany to wealth, a situation completely unacceptable to the banks and economic powerhouse that were bleeding Germany to death through the treaty of Versailles. A situation we are now seeing recur on a global scale and guess what? The whole western world is rebelling against the chaos funding banking/ political class. There is a world wide surge to nationalism. 