The Watch List Gun Bans Begin: Obama Enlists Governors to Bypass Congress By Executive OrderBy Mac Slavo With strong resistance in Congress to gun control measures, Obama has taken to working outside his constitutional authority yet again. But he, his pen and his phone, are not alone this time. To bring teeth to his pending executive orders, President Obama is working to enlist the help of many of the state governors who he hopes will sign their own executive orders. To that end, Gov. Dannel Malloy in Connecticut is taking the first plunge in this end run around that pesky Constitution and Bill of Rights. Of course, Connecticut, home to the Sandy Hook shootings, has already seen its gun rights eviscerated: NBC Connecticut reports: Connecticut Gov. Dannel Malloy plans to sign the first executive order in the nation to ban the sales of guns to people on federal government watch lists. We intend to prevent, by executive order through my powers as governor, those on government watch lists from obtaining a permit to purchase a firearm in Connecticut, the Democratic governor said in a news conference Thursday. Anyone who wishes to buy a gun in Connecticut must first apply for a permit from a public safety agency, then a thorough background check is conducted, Malloy said. The executive order would add an additional level of protection and require those who apply for a permit to be screened against government watch lists, Malloy said during the news conference. Its not clear how many people this executive order would cover, but the governor said he has reason to believe people living in the state are on watch lists and the state should be in a position to deny permits to those individuals. The state created some of the strictest gun laws in the country after 20 students and six educators were killed in a 2012 mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown. Those laws banned assault weapons in Connecticut. Gov. Malloy also discussed his intent to take away legally purchased guns from owners on the watch list, as well, though others in Connecticut are already questioning his legal authority to do enact any of these policies. (See video here) As SHTF explained the other day, the federal No Fly terror watch list is one of the worst instruments that could possibly be used. Firstly, it is has never stopped a terrorist from acting, though some may have been identified ahead of time. But, more importantly, the No Fly watch list has put thousands of people on its list for reasons of mere suspicion alone it is not based upon past crimes or direct accusations based on evidence. The practices for being added to the list are secretive, and there is virtually no way of appealing, or being taken off the list. That is despite the fact that many of the people on the No Fly list who have been barred from getting on a plane and traveling are on the list simply because they share a last name with a suspect, or a similar name. In short, it is a civil rights disaster that is fewer degrees away from Nazi Germany than it is from Kevin Bacon. Using this No Fly list to bar people from buying a gun a constitutionally protected right is compounding that problem and denying due process to Americans. Gov. Malloy has said that those who are denied will be able to appeal the decision, but nevertheless, it seems like something very close to this: (cue at :36 seconds) You can read more from Mac Slavo at his site SHTFplan.com It would be nice if the governor would investigate Sandy Hook. What? What do you mean leveled? Really? They erected a tall privacy fence surrounding the school and then hired a crew to come in and demolish the school Those going in were not allowed to take a cell phone, camera nor ever speak about anything they seen or did Not see.. Anyone who still believes the govt. version of sandy hook is further out there then those tin foil people.. Complete cover up. Along with that, there were overhead shots of a building that people were gathering to show their respects, only to see the people being herded around the building several times, to make the crowd look bigger than it actually was. At the first of the incident, there was a man in a black coat that ran from the school and was tackled by police and detained. He was later released and said he was not part of the investigation. But who was this guy? Nothing has ever been brought up about the guy. He was never interviewed as to what happened or why he was there. There was supposed to have been hazmat teams to remove blood stains, but no one knows if there was ever a team sent. There were several paid actors to portray themselves as victims. One video showed how a woman used gestures, while standing over the child like her mother and made movements to influence the girls testimony. First responders vehicles werent allowed within a couple hundred yards of the school. The medical examiner was seen joking with law enforcement and the media in front of the school. When asked about the fatalities, he laughed and said they were all dead. He was asked if he had examined any children and he said he hadnt been inside the building. How did he know so much when it is he that determines those dead and the cause? There was also several millions of dollars that flowed into the country, shortly after the shooting, that couldnt be explained. It was the site of a FEMA drill and they decided to try and pass it off as a real event. It was so poorly planned and executed that people caught on real fast! Lots more then what i said yes but i was replying to Anna who didnt seem to know the school had bee demolished. Saddest part to all this is that there are so many people that refuse to believe this govt. would ever do anything such as this. There is NO low they wouldnt stoop to for a chance to force something on American`s! Apparently that school wasnt even open before they put on that charade. Yea, reports were that the school was no longer being used. the school has been leveled?..isnt it odd how a new security system had just been installed and not one video showed Lanza trying to get in the locked doorsoh ya, and the FBI reports no murders in Newtown on their crime data website I guess this has nothing in common w/ steel from WTC not being analyzed before being shipped out of NYC. Its funny how convenient coincidences can frequently appear. Good riddance to bad memories. No one died at Sandy Hook. I guess the official narrative is to just take what was reported at face value. Finally, someone that speaks the truth about Sandy Hook. Thank you BanishedJester. The key word in your statement is reported, or in the case of sandy hook, falsely reported Fire the governor! A toe tag you say? Stuff OBOOOOMASS and any GOVERNOR who sides with him into a garbage bag and let them sink. Its about time Congress gets off its butt and takes action to stop these executive orders that violate the constitution. I really worry WHY Obama and others want to disarm the American public. I think they want to take away our liberty and cannot do it as long as we are armed. Healthcare was the beginning and dis-arming is next. Be vigilant and vocal or its the end of America as founded. Amen and file charges on the Muslim President for violating the law which he has done numerous times. NWO! Globalization and One World Government islamization (radical or otherwise) and sharia one-world-ruler is the means, not the goal, to globalization and one-world-government-control. To get that to happen we must first fire every SOB in Congress who is a lawyer or professional Term limits would be an excellent start and enable recall procedures for removal of any congressman failing in his/her duties to represent his/her constituents. The lobbyists need to be banned from getting to members of congress. That really is a conflict of interest and if any CPA did that and got caught it is a felony offense. Insider trading is a felony offense but congress does this too. Laws for us that do not apply to them! Thats why so many have their own (Armed) security guards. Among many other reasons. Sorry, but you would be violating the First Amendment if you tried to do that. When you contact your representative for any reason whatsoeveryou are lobbying. Must be why so many governors are Republican . Only one reason, that is to become dictator and to control you as Hitler did the Germans and then to do away with you when you are no longer worth keeping. Islamic Muslims can not survive in a true Democracy so Obama must get rid of our guns, declare dictatorship. Democrats have been trying to do this for years to take away our rights. They have did it to the poor by enslaving them to poverty via Welfare freebies. How else would they get their votes. Obama did a job on Black Americans he betrayed them big time as he betrayed ALL Americans. A real piece of work he is.. We need TERM LIMITS: in order to get rid of those lifers whom after a one term standing begin to turn crooks if not all ready one when they get elected. Obambo f**ked his own people but they are so inbread stupid that they blame the white republicans for everything he does. most of congress agrees with fuhrer Obama, all demonkrats and most republikrats Then its time that they are replaced. The oath says PROTECT AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION They are failing to do this. They need to go. yes, they do, and I have repeatedly called for their arrest and hanging also!!!!! congress agrees with Obama and want t be part of the power structure. as long as they obey their handlers they will be allowed to rule so they dont care what the Constitution says or what We the People say. it is time for a 2nd revolutionary war and it is imminent. Well, now aint this just dandy? Heil king obama, the useless minions in congress, now the governors. Maybe we all need to start wearing arm bands. Dear anti-Constitutionalists be careful what you wish for. It will not be reversible. The last 50 years, our gun laws have worked just fine. Anyone who wanted a gun could get one to kill innocent people. Our gun laws have cost Billions of Dollars to enforce, while bad people are still able to get guns. Law Abiding American Citizens have been criminalized and sent to jail over the illegal gun laws on the books. Yelp, our gun laws benefits those who do not obey the law. The criminals are not who the government is after. They want to disarm us so they can control us. Its time to take out the toxic trash. That means the illegal ANTI AMERICAN squatter and his crim cronies OUT What you say is true. Thanks, you just clarified what is the elephant in the room. It is designed to disarm and enslave this country just like they are doing in the rest of the world. Third world country is where this is headed. Going backwards in history. Kings, queens, dictators, tyrants and absolutely no freedoms for the commoners. Sound like feudalism to you? Back to the days after the plague or before. Damn traitors, we must not allow big business, the rich and our elected government to do this ever. There is a reason this amendment was placed in our constitution and this is not the first challenge to it. But we have to fight for our freedoms in our votes, in our courts and if necessary in a last resort confrontation with those who would take away our freedoms not matter who it is. Your post was fine until you felt you had to attack big business and the rich. Yes disarm those who would pose a resistance to the New world order so they can throw everyone of us in camps to brainwash them to their way or kill them. Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dorns perfect society. It just makes the state a gun free zone for more violence that leads to more insane laws that leads to more violence. Yes they are that stupid. They dont want to understand. In their insane logic they believe they can control everything including our right to breathe. You left out they by and large have armed personal security and live in gated communities. They have an agenda, and it doesnt bode well for decent citizens! I WILL NOT COMPLY!!!!! Nor will I. If or when I go down I will take as many as them with me as I can. It has nothing to do with safety. Its all about government control of citizens, and governors who follow his lead are aiding his illegal plan. Yep, gun control is by extension citizen control. The part they dont understand starts with We The People.. they understand its just that they dont care. the politicians and bureaucrats see themselves as omnipotent rulers and We the People as mere cattle to be herded and controlled. Well this cattle plans to be a well armed cattle with something to say about it. Thats why all freedom loving patriots should vote with their feet and move to pro gun states. AZ, NV, UT, TX and WY come to mind, but Im sure there are more. MO is pro gun also. Good to know, I know there must be more out there. Well, I HOPE Florida is! Can anyone help me here. How can I find out? Well, I know Florida was the first State to change to a shall issue for CCW permits. The best way is to talk to folks in gun shops and target ranges. You probably wont get much of the truth from the government. You cant even look at the State Constitutions to get the facts. Most of the State Constitutions were written way back when and my guess is they no longer represent the truth. I know Kalifornia, MA and NY had similar writings as the 2nd Amendment and look at how that worked out. Thanks, Marty. When I first came to FL, I was told that purchased guns didnt have to be registered. However, about a year ago when I was considering buying a smaller handgun at a gun show, I was told they warehoused my info now and the government had access if they wanted the info. Also I would have to wait three days to pick up the gun. Needless to say, I did not purchase THAT gun. I will do more checking. Oklahoma is still pro gun Great, Ill add that to my list. Are you allowed to have suppressors for those who want to keep their hearing intact, or fully auto for those who simply want to exercise their 2nd amendment rights. Theyre both legal here in Utah, after you pay the federal taxes. It is my understanding that suppressors are banned for the general public by our beneficient federal government. No, not at all. They are classified just as fully auto weapons. If you live in a state which allows them, you simply pay ATF for the transfer stamp ($200.00) and wait, Im told up to 8 months. Here in Utah, you go to a licensed dealer, buy the suppressor or full auto weapon, get the receipt with full description and serial #, submit it to ATF with your transfer stamp application and wait. I know this is the same procedure in AZ and NV, not positive about other states. So, it would be fair to say that it is a somewhat expensive and time-consuming process. And then your purchase is in a government database. Exactly! In lots of places in Europe, they are an inexpensive over the counter item. Im waiting for that option. There has been a proposal introduced in Congress to make suppressors an over the counter item in the US. Yes, I read that and if passed, it should bring the price for them way down. Id love to see it. I told myself I wouldnt buy one until obummer and his gun grabbing minions were out of office. Of course if killery gets in, I guess Ill never get one. Silencers are an inexpensive over the counter item in many places in Europe? Why would they need them when guns are banned? Firearms are not banned in all of Europe Rifles are legal in a lot of the countries. Rifles are what I referring to. Suppressed handguns I have no use for, too big and bulky to carry concealed. Suppressed rifles would be great for hunting and target shooting. Dont know how useful theyd be for self defense, but if I have it, Ill use it. Note the reference to many places in Europe in my post. So noted, doesnt change a thing. Except that your post magically changed that to not banned in all of Europe, when no such claim was made. I have no idea what the state says about full auto or suppressors. If I want either I will have them, without permission from dictatorial despots. I know people who can make silencers and have the knowledge to modify semi-auto rifles to full auto but I dont want full auto weapons as they have a tendency to waste ammo. I can pull the trigger fast enough to suit me and would rather have slower but more accurate fire. It is both a State and Federal felony. If you want to take that chance, go for it. To me, neither is that important. Suppressors are only important to me to save what hearing I have left. Full auto to me, like you, is pretty much worthless. I would be interested in 3 round burst though. Dont even know if those are available to us civilians. . All full auto, both continuous fire and burst fire, are available to civilians under federal law. There are many more hoops to jump through to legally purchase and possess them including fees to pay but you can have them. That is if you can afford to purchase them. Yup, but the full auto has to have been made prior to the act. We cant buy any modern full autos. And, yes they are expensive. I saw a 1928 Thompson for sale at a gun show here about two years ago. Mint condition. and he only wanted $25,000 for it. I love that weapon and if I could of somehow justified the purchase, Id of bought it. It really was a good deal, but my divorce would have been a lot more expensive. My wife and I joke about it every time we go to a gun show LOL. Remember that some pro gun states have elected governors who showed themselves to be anti gun after they took office. You are absolutely right. AZ did that when they elected that b*tch, cant remember her name, the one that Clinton appointed Homeland Security director I think. Very pro gun state and then goes and elects her governor. Couldnt figure that one out. Maybe voter fraud? Or she kept her true position hidden well enough to fool the voters. Quite possibly both. You could be right, Janet Napolitano was her name. I wasnt into AZ politics at the time, so I really dont know what was going on. I know all governors since her have been good conservatives. If the illegal alien problem wasnt so out of control and dangerous there, Id of considered the move to AZ. Thanks obummer and Bush! Would you be willing to fund my move to a free state? Here behind enemy lines in Ct. I dont have the ability to find a job. No house, no family. But I do have principals. Because I stand proudly against them. I am or will be put on those lists. Imagine being a law abiding gun owning citizen for 59yrs. Always doing the next right thing. Then overnight I am a newly minted felon. Because of a state and federal governments gone collectively rouge. Wish to God I had the $ to leave. Because I cannot and will not submit .To collective tyrants on a state nor federal level. I will die with my boots on. Brandishing my weapons. God wills it. I feel for you, I really do. I felt just as trapped having to stay in Kalifornia until my retirement. At least you still have your principles. And dont give up hope! A lot in your State and NY also refused to register their semi autos. They certainly cant arrest all of you. And surprisingly, a NYT poll should a majority of the folks were against the government taking all the assault weapons away. So, dont give up hope. When I was still in Kalifornia, I also refused to register my semi autos. It was such a breath of fresh air when I was able to get my family and my guns out of the PRK (Peoples Republic of Kalifornia). Bro thanks for the support ! Oh yea, if you have a trusted friend in a nearby state which allows it, you might consider leaving the weapons in question with them. Thats what I did. I had an especially fine HK 91. I took it to a friend in AZ to hold for me. Give it a thought. Sorry Bro. No friends in the last free states of New England. Which are Vermont, New Hampshire, and Maine. Driving through Mass., would be an issue. Mandatory yr. in jail caught with handgun. Would be as bad if you got caught in N.Y. ,New Jersey, Delaware, Maryland. Basically surrounded by collectivist gun grabbing criminals. That sucks! You literally are a prisoner, in direct violation of the 2nd Amendment. They know we will not be safer. That is their plan. The only oath he took was on the Koran. Im sure there is some sinister reason to make sure Americans are defenseless. Criminals will, of course, always have their weapons. The Constitution means NOTHING to this regime. They want us defenseless. Expanding government power will not increase our safety; it will only diminish our freedom. Thats what we got when we started putting scum sucking lawyers in public office!! Our founding fathers warned about putting lawyers in office. They said that lawyers would subvert the law in such a way only they would benefit. Its dangerous to have folks who know how to get an unconstitutional end without violating the letter of the law in office. Any governor that follows his order should be impeached immediately Any order from these people that goes against the constitution is not a law, ignore it. Youre right, but how do you get a gun store to ignore the law even if its unconstitutional. Most are not willing to risk being shut down. Removing the politicians from office is perhaps the best first stop. You cant ignore an unconstitutional law because it is not a law. What if the law is put in unconstitutionally? Our pres has a way of not going through the legislature to get HIS laws passed. The SCOTUS can rule his act was unconstitutional thus making it null and void. This has happened a couple of times with Mr. Obama. However, Mr. Obama has on occasion defied the Court. The only option then is for Congress to impeach, convict and remove him. However, it hasnt shown the courage to act. The SCUTUS wouldnt rule against hussein. He uses the SC as the legislature for HIS laws. Pure sophistry. Theres de jure law and de facto law. I believe firmly in nullification, but if one resorts to it, especially on their own, therere consequences. Do you think either the State or federal government wont shut down a gun shop if they sell weapons without a federal gun dealers permit, even if by a strict interpretation of the 2nd amendment they shouldnt even need one? I do not imply that state and federal governments act lawfully-I simply pointed up the contradiction in unconstitutional law. The black-robed gang of nine actually agreed with the constitution on this. Please reference the SCOTUS case that established the constitutionality of nullification. I believe the issue is still in the process of being referred to the supreme Court. An unconstitutional act is not law; it confers no rights; it imposes no Heres one from 6th grade Government class: All laws which are repugnant to the Constitution are null and void. Marbury v. Madison, 5 U.S. 137 (1803) Notice that nowhere in the constitution nor in these court opinions is a requirement that a court must make that determination. The people have that responsibility and power, from the individual and jury all the way down the chain of authority to the SCOTUS. Thank you for the references. Ive copied your comment to a note for myself. Who gave the authority to the federal government to make laws and also to decide on their constitutionality? As you imply, It was the Sovereign States and nowhere has there ever been any evidence theyve agreed to surrender all power to the CENTRAL government and to be mere administrative units. BUT, that is the agenda and goal of Federalists, whove existed since the beginning of the Republic. Im sure youre aware of the contention in the late 1700s between the Democrat-Republicans led by Jefferson and the Federalists led by Adams and Hamilton. Sadly, the degree of contention by their descendents has widened to the point where the progressives are striving for what could only be described as a welfare nanny police state. My main problem with the citations you cited, and which I accept, is how to effectively use them when the Court and a rouge administration will not support those who believe, rightly, that a law is null and void because of its deviation from the powers granted the federal government by the Constitution. I do favor State Nullification, but its only a stop gap measure. The only other possibly effective route would be an Article V Convention that would once again bind the federal government with the chains of the Constitution as Jefferson said. should that fail all I can see is either a group of States secede from the Union and an ensuing civil war using the justification of the Declaration of Independence. My fear is that a civil war from an historical view could lead to more problems than it solves. Witness the French, Russian, and Chinese Revolutions. I may be a military man but Im not a Jacobin. ;-( Again, thanks for the information and your comments. Is this where the Convention of States would come in ? Ive have heard of it, but I do not understand exactly how it is put into place and what are the factors that would cause it to happen ?? Yes. A convention of States, what I refer to as an Article V Convention, is taken directly from Article V of the Constitution. It reads as follows: The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as All thats needed is for 33 States to petition Congress to call for such a convention. Congress has no choice. Then the States can propose adding or repealing Amendments. If 38 States ratify them, they become part of the Constitution. Neither Congress nor the president can interfere. What happens is for organizations to petition their legislatures to call for and appoint people to State Convention committees. So far a number of States have and most States have organizations advocating such a convention. In our history thereve been a number of States that have called for an Article V Convention, but then either not enough participated or Congress decided to preempt their requests and propose the Amendments themselves. Now, therere dangers, but many are overblown and some are outright falsehoods. FIRST, an Article V Convention IS NOT a Constitutional Convention that could run away and chuck the Constitution. However, thats the goal of George Soros. That supposed danger is a favorite theme of Publius Huldah and her followers. She believes education will solve our problems. Also, keep in mind, 38 States have to agree on the proposed amendments. Also, many fear that the CENTRAL government could either deny the States petition or control who is appointed to the Convention. Article V doesnt allow that and the 10th Amendment guards against it. Also, some disagree whether or not petitions have to be contemporaneous and cover the same subjects. However, the greatest problem is time, which we dont have much of in my opinion. Many either want to use the methods that have failed now for almost a hundred years such a petitioning, marching, demonstrating, calling and voting. But why not use ALL the tools the Framers and Ratifiers of the Constitution gave us? But then others want to jump to revolution, some I think out of bloodlust. Others fail to remember the lessons of history. Most revolutions cause more problems than the solve such as the French, Russian, and Chinese Revolutions. Thats not to say we may not have to face the hard choice of having to dust off the Declaration of Independence and take it to heart with a vengeance keeping in mind why Madison, Jefferson and Justice Story said the 2nd Amendment was written. Thank You. I think that helped me. I certainly hope that we never have to face a revolution, but I know this once great country is is a very big mess. And I also believe that something is going to have to give somewhere. Hopefully we can get rid of all the garbage in Washington and start over. May GOD Bless each of us and this great country !!Cindy Smith Thank you. As a retired military man with graduate work in political science Im all too aware of the dangers of revolution. I hope and pray we can avoid it but it wont be easy. I believe we were blessed by God once. But with our abandment of Him as a nation as a whole Im not sure we can count on that again unless we heed 2 Chronicles 7:14. Greetings ! I too am concerned that GOD is nowhere to be found. In Michigan, they have erected a 9ft. tall statue of Satan in Detroit. At Christmas they put up a snake thing, next to the Nativity and were going to hold a ceremony of some kind the Saturday before Christmas. Freedom of speech is what they called it. To tell you the truth it scares the heck out of me. I find it very unsettling. I am sad that this once great country has abandoned GOD. But there will come a time when GOD will return to care for HIS children. That is when there will be a clash of GOOD against evil. We all know who wins in the end. It is our Father in Heaven. May GOD Bless us all. Please have a most blessed evening. Thank You for allowing me to share in your conversations. I find it awesome. Tar and feathers seem a good start as well! And run out of town on a rail. or under it Its illegal, but I like it. then ride them on a rail out of town aqnd follow Jeffersons suggestion about the Tree of Liberty. Well we do have the right to dream. There is a process that allows the voters to recall the Govenor, I believe that is how they should be forced from office It will show them we mean business Hanging sends a more potent message. Lets first try the legal methods before we resort to coups and revolutions. However, if they dont work, well Your should run for office Roberto, you sound well informed and intelligent. Thanks. Being part of the over-the-hill-gang and a disabled retired vet I dont think Id survive it. Ive had one heart attack already and that was enough. While serving I had the chance at a graduate education and other military courses. My graduate courses were in political science, history, and international relations. Although my undergraduate degree was in mathematics, my minor was in history, economics, and political science. Sadly, the year before I retired, the government reneged on the promise of a VA 10 year funded education, so I didnt complete my Masters Degree. So I learned a lot about the Constitution, American and international history, and politics. Sadly, I learned most of our secondary schools fail to teach students such courses. Hence we see the progressives never really understanding or appreciating what Western Civilization is about or Americas contribution including the Constitution gave to it. On the other side, many conservatives dont know how to address the willful aggressive ignorance of the Left. My ex tells me I shouldve gone into teaching at the high school level. But what I seen in the years since I retired in the public schools makes me not to want to go back into combat. Yup, back when Kalifornia was still a part of the US, impeached, I cant remember who, and I think replaced him with Arnold. My mind is fuzzy after all these years. Grey Davis.. Thanks. It was real easy to forget the name, but not the face! Youre still not bad It was Gray Davis in 2003, and yes it was Arnold who replaced him. However it was a Recall election, not impeachment. Only 8 Governors have actually been impeached: Rod Blagojevich, Illinois in 2009 / Evan Mecham, Arizona in 1988 / Henry S. Johnson, Oklahoma in 1929 / John C. Walton, Oklahoma in 1923 / James E. Ferguson, Texas in 1917 / William Sulzer, New York in 1913 / David Butler, Nebraska in 1871 / William W. Holden, North Carolina in 1871. That list should include that scum Brown and those three stooges Pelosi, Boxer, and that idiot finestein, all worthless treasonous fools. Unfortunately US senators and representatives cant be impeached. If we were to repeal the 17th Amendment then perhaps the states could recall wayward senators. Maybe we need another amendment to allow recall of representatives as well. I also think its time we SERIOUSLY considered term limits, including on federal judges. We need to put this to a people vote on the next election, we also need term limits on the Supreme court. MALLOY 2015 That was the recall of the governor-I think it was Jerry Brown. It was mainly because of the planned brown-outs (major reductions) of electricity supplies to the public. This was the result of the mandatory, 30%, I believe outsourcing of electric power. California was required to get 30% of its electric power from outside sources (an environMENTAL regulation). Texas became a major supplier to Calif..Operators of power plants have to comply with environMENTAL regulations that restrict the hours of operation of plants that dont comply with the latest emission control standards. Texas had plants like this, so they had to restrict the amount of electrical power sent to La-La Land. Hence the planned brownouts, along with complete blackouts. Progressive sabotage, brought to us by sun-baked fruit and nuts. Mark, I was reminded by taghd it was Grey Davis and he was recalled, not impeached. I cant remember the difference. Now that you mention it, I do recall the electric problems and brown outs. Kalifornia always has problems, usually caused by the screaming libs. Then, it was the brown outs, today it is the water shortage. Kalifornia wanted to bring water in from Oregon, a large river which just dumped millions of acre feet of water into the Pacific. But the lib tree huggers fought them from building the aqua duct. It would have cost less then their stupid high speed train. But no, they let the libs have their way and look as the mess their in now. Id like to say serves them right, but I still have family and friends there. Marty: Thanks for mentioning the deliberate drought caused by the mean greenies. I remember seeing a report about it, how farmers in, I believe, Fresno, and the surrounding areas were(are) being starved for water. The percentage of people having to go on welfare was (is) around 40-50%, all due to Progressives, who claim to love and respect and protect plants and animals. Deliberate water deprivation. Few things are more cruel than this. Youre welcome. Yes, its to believe such a once great state could go so far down hill in just a few decades. A the destruction was without a doubt caused by the libs. Yeah. Its really sad. California, to me, is like the most beautiful, charming girl in your entire school being slipped drugs in her drinks, making her a drug-addicted alcoholic, and while your heart aches for her, she aint getting any better. Could not have said it better. Its a shame how good I felt seeing Kalifornia in my rear view mirror. My wife misses it terribly even after almost 11 years, but knows we will never go back. Progressives are just communists who took the Democrat party over years ago. Thanks for the reminder of the progressives planned sabotage of the State economy to enrich certain people and corporations. Yeah. Progressives accuse anyone who oppose them of enriching certain corporations, while THEY do more of it than anybody, and ruin local and state economies besides. I am certain America is headed toward a fascist style of government if the Democrats win the white house next year. Heres some ammunition when progressive get their hackles up when you accuse them of fascism. I found this definition of the Internet. Fascism is an economic model in which the State dictates the utilization of privately held assets to achieve public policy goals. Isnt this what the ACA is doing to healthcare? Arent agencies like the EPA and BLM trying to force property owners to do what they want and thus negating the property owners rights without buying their land at fair market prices? They did it to Gray Davis in California, now do it to all that pull this crap.. Not all states have recall procedures but itd be a good step to adopt laws for them. that will not happen in the north east or california, progressive embedded, theyll stupidly and ignorantly stick to the progressive agenda of thinking Dont just talk about it; do it! Then only process I know of in most states is through the impeachment process. But itd be an excellent path to take. No; they should be arrested and imprisoned! Just like the COS POS. What is a COS POS? Im pretty sure of what you mean by POS so defining COS will be good enough. Chief of Staff. Thanks. The other is horse pucky, right? Yes sir. Dont worry, when Obummer brings out his bag of surprises next summer most Governors will be on our side. In fact All Pro-American Governors need to have a meeting this spring to make a plan on how to handle Obama when he starts really causing problems in 2016 The man, Obama, who released 5 dangerous terrorists from Guantanamo has no business pushing gun control on American people. Everybody listed here, if they have the names would be on a government watch list and denied a gun. Trey is the only one I have heard pushing against this. This is for sure! The federal government can -and will- put anyone they choose on their watch list, for any reason they choose. We,the people, are seeing our rights disappear if we do not oppose this! Our government already considers anyone that disagrees with their agenda as a violent extremist. How many time have you heard a predominate democrat call Conservatives the enemy, domestic terrorists and even the greatest threat the America. These Watch Lists will be adopted as a back door way of eliminating guns and controlling more people and anyone can be put on these lists for any reason. It is time to stand up and put a stop to this madness. Yes, everyone on this site, and posts here would be put on that watchlist as everyone here is who they want to disarm, who would pose resistance to them. I only said what I did to make sure that everyone was aware of it. Thanks for your post,also. Dont just talk; DO SOMETHING! What? Get everyone you can to hold your state and federal elected officials feet to the fire unrelentingly. Dont give them a moments peace. Keep their phones and e-mail lit up. Attend all public govt meetings and be heard. In a utopian world that would occur. No need for impeachment, that requires politicians to act. Use the recall vote. It is faster and the people get their say, the politicians have no say. And so it begins. We sure do have a lot of idiots in government. Or is it We the People that are idiots for allowing this to happen? If this so-called president is allowed to continue this way without the Congress of this country impeaching him then the people of this country shall rise up in revolt and take him down for you. Everyone is really enraged at the things he is doing now, about the kissing bugs across the border and the Trojan Horse refugees coming into the country and the people are against it. When do WE finally get a voice? WE are the ones that elected our officials to work for the people of this country and all you do is support Islam and TRY to shut us up. WE THE PEOPLE WILL NOT GO AWAY OR BE QUIETED. We the People are angry Not who votes, its who COUNTS the votes. For example Soros company in Spain. The dead who vote, the illegals who vote Its time to spade or neuter all your subjects. Only the purebreds get to keep their guns. And another black market run by criminals will get bigger. As if any of these criminals dont already have all the guns they want or need and know where they can get them, if they dont have them!! Are you kidding me? Once again, the looney left conspires to infringe on my GOD given, CONSTITUTIONALLY (libs hate those 2 words) guaranteed 2A rights. The Constitution DOES give citizens the right to ignore any laws or orders that infringe on ANY right. Any and all politicians that skirt the law have violated their oath. And the more than loony Right sits on their hands and let Obama rollover them. I would like(?) to believe its because of the dreaded and feared Race Card!! If they try for impeachment the Black people arent going to sit idly by and do nothing!! It would make the Watts riots look like a day at Disney World. If the Right votes down ANY budget and forces the Gov.t to shut down and the gimmee crowd doesnt get there freebies same thing! The race card has about run out of steam with the American people! Maybe so BUT that wont stop them from trying!! I hope the governor of Texas told him to shove it. Theres no way were going to give up our self protection against criminals. Only a CRIMINAL wants the law-abiding citizens to be defenseless and thats exactly what Obama is a criminal. Denial of due process. This will make the Lawyers happy. These politicians should be kicked out of office because theyre definitely mentally ill! Theyre following the plan to destroy the country. Only the in crowd get to stay. Look at what happened in MS, 2014, from politico: Cochran enjoyed heavy-duty outside backing for his campaign, as well, including a $1.7 million effort by the Mississippi Conservatives super PAC, a group led by Republican National Committee member Henry Barbour and promoted by Haley Barbour, the former Mississippi governor. Business groups including the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and the National Association of Realtors added hundreds of thousands of dollars more to Cochrans air support. If you want to get complete control over your neighbor, your neighborhood, your city, etc, WHAT would you do to ensure that no one could RESIST you? When Hitler began rolling through the German political assent to absolute power, what was the first controlling step he took? I think it was DISARMING the populace. Am I comparing Obama to Hitler? Youre DAMN RIGHT I am. ALL despots, when striving to CONTROL and FORCE the population to be ENSLAVED to them begin by taking away their ability and will to resist. In the U.S., that would be to take away YOUR FREE SPEECH, YOUR RIGHT TO LIVE YOUR RELIGIOUS BELIEFS, YOUR MONEY, AND YOUR G U N S! Obama has succeeded in part in all the above. Believe me, and the signs will tell you, this despot Obama is INTENT on DESTROYING the United States of America. Thats YOU and ME. It is my sincere belief that Obama, Soros, Bloomberg, Clinton, Jarrett, and others are INTENT on MAKING US ALL, ALL COLORS, ALL RACES, ALL BELIEFS SLAVES to their whims. Why? So they can have more of what they CRAVE, which is P O W E R! Wealth. and Ego. DO NOT GIVE UP YOUR ABILITY TO DEFEND YOURSELF: Your free speech. Your religious practice. Your GUNS! Well said. I get tired of repeating this and taking a lot of verbal abuse, Obama is the Anti-Christ! Wake Up America (especially the weak puppets in and if hes not the actual Anti-Christ hes definitely his son!! Amen nope, obama is not THE antichrist but rather one of those Paul speaks of that could be called little antichrists. They are the ones who set things up for THE antichrist who will likely appear fairly soon. Every person who comments about his gun control efforts will be placed on the No Fly List; guaranteed!!!! Our founders gave us the Bill of Rights and the Constitution which is I thought the LAW OF THE LAND but Obama and his henchmen ignore it like it wasnt even there and pass unconstitutional laws and tell us we have to follow them, I say since they broke the law first we ignore their law drag them out in to the street and do what needs to be done with tyrants. Why is it that DIMM governors are so stupid ? Last I heard stupidity is not inherited so that must mean they got that way all by themselves. What an achievement ! Last I heard you cant even fix stupid. YepWe can fix crazy with medication and dumb with education but no known cure for stupidity ! AMEN! If you expect the good old boys in Washington to do anything to protect We the People Im afraid you have been asleep for the past 7 years. They dont care about a criminals ability to get a firearm because the criminals provide the majority of their income and pose no threat to them. We the People, on the other hand, must be unarmed at all costs to prevent another American Revolution which would ruin most of their plans. all liberal scum are to dumb to see the revolution coming,all because of their communist policies and beliefs.these commie dirt bags spout off about gun crimes yet they wont admit the facts that 98% of all crime and shootings are black and liberals.you cant fix a problem until you admit the truth about the problem. is this the same governor that wanted to tax rain water coming off peoples roof? I believe youre referring to Colorado unless there is another State doing likewise! well thats another idiot governor, i bet hes gonna sign the same order..after the so called safe act was illegally passed in New York, i bet you can add that governors order to the list too So perhaps CT. is where it will start this time around! hussein may infringe and trample on the Constitution of the United States of America with the help of a few anti-American Governors, but only the people can put a stop to this treason. Impeach, recall, and vote the walking dead out of office. The inept lying outlaw in the white house is not content with breaking the law himself he is no conspiring with other outlaws. Oh, OK Govner, I get it. Its OK because its Subject to appeal so the State decides youre guilty but its OK because you get a chance to prove your innocence. Guilty until proven innocent, OK wait!! I DONT get it. Is Connecticut still in the Union, Mien Fuhrer? So Obummer s thugs chose who is on the list,those who speak out against government overreach, veterans etc. Terrorists and criminals will get guns no matter what. Leaving honest law-abiding citizens the means to protect themselves. This guy even looks like a nitwit. These EO are goiing to be found uconsstitutional. So much for Live Free or Die for the Live Free or Die State. TheNo Fly List is a conviction for a criime not cmmitted and is arbitrary and capricius. The Dems are using a non-threatening sounding terminology of common sense gun laws into getting people to give up their Constitutional rights. Dont fall for it. We all know now that the Dems cant deal with facts, unless the make them up to be true. How is it that the usurper is still walking around a free Kenyan? oh!!! So now obama recognizes federalism!! What a fraud he is and a big disgrace to the world!! The French have this POS figured out. To bad the low info aholes havent!! Of course they wont even try as long as the gimmee, gimmee train keeps a running! Let the train stop and look out! the POS should be arrested will his wife for treason. No impeachment needed. this shows he has no idea the way our country is structured executive order does not apply to governors or states. this counterfeit needs to be impeached Can you say New World Order? This is the only way the NWO can be installed, if we are armed we will not be able to be victims! The world population needs to be reduced by 2/3 of the population in order for it to be effective, planned parenthood is doing its part, the ISIS team is doing its job, if there is only one group of people it will be easier to keep them in order, you say its only a conspiracy theory? There is a world bank already, the UN is going to be the controlling group and they are already in place, obummer is the one that was groomed to be the one to put the last few things in place, he told us he was going to fundementally change the United states and so far he is doing what he said. There isnt 2 parties anymore and everybody sees that, they all are pushing towards the NWO just in different degrees, will trump fight back or is he just another face pushing it on us so to make himself richer? The NWO has been around a long time and we just get pushed closer with each president, yes the us has to be dumped of its once greatness into a third world country in order to fit the NWO agenda, before you call me a conspiracy nut case do your own research and make your own decision as I dont really pretend to know it all as this is just what I found in my research I think the shooting is out of the Hitler playbook for staging events that havent happened to get the population on Obaaaamas side for gun confiscation. A simple maneuver of brain washing, that Holder talked about of how to turn the public against firearms. What hes doing is trying to disarm us so he can declare Marshall Law. I believe he will declare martial law so he can disarm us I think he will declare martial law so he can disarm us Hey ovomit, and you America you better wake up before it really is to LATE. The top brass that Obama has fired had better get together with like minded people and take Obama out by force! The American people deserve better! It is blatantly obvious that Obama is on the side of the Islamic terrorists trying to kill Americans! What is this, the twilight-zone? Democrats had better wake up to what is going on. They are going to get their clocks cleaned in a massive way in the next election, if they dont. Ziek Hiel Obama, Ziek Hiel The Fhurer Has Spoken. Just Sent E-mails To All Three Of My Reps Demanding Obama Be Arrested For Treason, Will Be Calling Tommorrow, Too We should all do that! They cant ignor everyone. Everyone knows Obama is loyal to radical Islamists who want to kill Americans! Where are the sane leaders? The people deserve better! There must be a logical group of people who love America enough to physically remove the anti-American president and his administration! We are watching them break every rule ever made! Treason could be proven by a ten year old! What is wrong with the generals Obama has forced out? Get some men and take over the government! We the people demand it! We have our Country that is going bankrupt, that is divide, over run by illegals and terrorist who want kill us and all Obama will talk about is Climate Control and taking our ability to protect ourselves since the government wont by taking our guns away from us. That shooting in California, and others were choreographed by Obama, Soros, and Bloomberg! Every shooting that results in the gunmen being killed was done to achieve gun control. We arent stupid, its obvious! Im beginning to believe that too on some of the shootings, but the muslim thing Im not sure. This terrorist bull is taking place all over the world and they want us pretty bad! Obama is them! Muslim brotherhood! You think they cant or dont have the power to order up some suicide jihadists? Yep, the muslim brotherhood goes by CAIR in the big house. And theres no problem getting these low IQ cult members to commit suicide and kill as many people as possible. I keep looking for one of these idiots to blow their selves up in a crowded Wal-Mart! Not worried about our Governor, hes big in the NRA and is an active shooter! Ours is a left over Clinton Crime Family clone, Terry McAuliffe. He was under investigation for bad land deals out west. One, I think, involved Bill and Hillary. He was also taking out insurance policies for terminal patients and pocketing the majority of the money for himself. Funny, how the investigations were dropped, when he became governor. This seems to happen to most all that deal with the Clintons, but several over the years have died from unknown reasons. After all Hellary does have the NWO foundation, and the UN is pushing all the right buttons for it, gun control, the world bank, the world Church, and the biggest scam of all, global warming! The way things are going right now with Obama obviously one of the Islamic jihadists, do you really think there will even be an election? I think not! If someone doesnt step up and take Obama out, he will by executive order execute marshal law, and deem himself dictator! Congress might as well stay home! Why are we paying those people if Obama ignores them? The time has come for every red-blooded American to go to DC and show by numbers that we the people arent going to take it any longer! The people born in America deserve better! Remember By the people, for the people? impeach all gun grabbers. Obama should be impeached.Hillary for prison 2016 Obama her cell mate Obama has committed high-treason! Its way past impeachment! He should be strung up and publicly hanged! Myself and a whole slew of others know hes committed high treason but he should be strung up and publicly hanged only after a trial and convicted otherwise were as bad as Ovomit and the DemoCRAPZ by flaunting the law!! Is he guilty?? My vote is for Hades YES!! You are correct! Do we really have that amount of time? Probably not but with the DemoCRAPZ wed get labeled as the nasty lawless even though they, themselves, are guiltier then homemade sin! They want to take our guns and kill the dollar in order for a one world government to begin! They know the American people are heavily armed! What ever you do, never, ever, give up your guns! Exactly, and I believe this is the reason Obama never would sign off on using drones on American citizens, hes that sick, is or military that sick, if so this goes against the Oath they took! The courts have given Obama the OK to use drones on Americans with secret evidence against them! No due process no transparency nothing! Our forefathers had to do some soul searching, they decided to do what is right, fight for America! We owe them the same courageous decision, they were afraid, yet they overcame fear and took the challenge, and we owe them for their sacrifice! Yes it is 2015 and none of us ever imagined this would be necessary again, but the barbarians are not only at the gate, they are in the peoples house! There is no doubt in my mind that we as the people cant defeat the enemies that are attacking us today! We just have to have a leader! We need a plan of action! We must do the right thing, and that is revolt, we can die fighting or die hiding, death is death! Using the no-fly list as a reason to stop gun sales only ensures that a lot more people will end up on the no-fly list. And rest assured, it wont take much to get on it! Hes starting out with baby steps, and it has been proven that over half on the list dont even belong there. This fool in the Whitehouse has stomped all over our Constitution. Yet no one does anything about it. Why?! Apparently our whole congress is behind him, its their job to stop this mad man! There are 70 members of congress who belong to the Democrat Socialists of America Throw in Obama, Rice, Gerrett, Ayers, Dohrn, Soros, Bloomberg, Kerry, Emanuel, Van Jones, Biden, Reid, Pelosi, Feinstein, Boxer, Clinton, Administration past and present, we round them all up the way they rounded up the nazis! Try them for treason, hang them, then go destroy Isis, Iran, Syria, Pakistan, and anyone else who has a problem with our God fearing capitalist nation! Things will have to steadily deteriorate from here before such would happen, at some point. Humans will suffer a lot of evil before they finally break. And while he enlists governors to bypass Congress, hes yelling Death to America and going Ulu-lu-lu-lu-lu-luuuu! Any law written against the rules stated in the constitution are ILLEGAL LAWS!!!! Like the homosexual marrarage law written by the Supreme Court THAT IS AN ILLEGAL LAW!!!!! I DO NOT FOLLOW ILLEGAL LAWS!!!!!!want to change or write laws FOLLOW RULES OF THE CONSTITUTION or the laws are ILLEGAL!!!!!!! Or amend the Constitution, the lawful way. Its not lawful to just ignore it! No! The constitution is our foundation, what we are going through now is the result of people wanting to change the constitution! Of course its our foundation. However, ignoring it is just a defacto change and doing that isnt lawful. Oh dont get me wrong, I agree, but changing it is not going to happen! He goes around congress like they arent there! Why pay them? We the people are responsible when government goes rogue! The second amendment gives us the right to act against tyrrany! So, lockload all we need is a plan of action! Each state form a militia, then congregate and join forces and storm 1600! Obama has brought Muslim brotherhood into our government, enough said! Now Mr. Waddell, you know we must be PC, their Whitehouse name is CAIR! PC is BS from DC to destroy USA! AMEN! People get put on those damned watch lists for the stupidest reasons. A friend of mine got put on the no fly list by accident, with no explanation, and it took him some time (all the while with a job that depended on traveling for sales) to get off the list. So, my question is this: once you are banned from getting a gun because you are on a no fly list or some other innocuous watch list, will they also remove your name from the gun ban list if you are able to get your name removed from the no fly list? Follow questions: what kinds of watch lists will they start using to ban sales of guns? Secret ones? Will they be required to provide proof, evidence, or explanation for why you are denied a gun? What criteria will be used to put a person on a watch list? If I join my local militia because I want to protect my country from invasion, does that put me on any lists? Who is guarding the guards and watching the watchers, to make sure that they are not engaging in tyranny??? They could use these forums for the same thing!! Damned skippy. I worked for a company that sold its products to the government, and it was an intelligent routing system that would flag data and escalate using any number of routes. No doubt something tied into PRISM or some other fusion system. They unwrap just about all encrypted data via Akamai and other similar security firms, and its easy for them to automatically monitor and escalate any content that you submit to the web for further analysis. Most of the things we post doesnt garner much personal analysis, but the keywords we become associated with can be easily placed on lists automatically, and then called a watch list. I can hear the constitution being ripped up, and the founding fathers spinning in their graves as I type this. Have U ever been on and hear click on the computer, and ever have a an icon at the bottom of the comp screen pop up, and run your arrow over it and it says, your location has been accessed!! I have several times forum! Let me know when you people are sick of talking, and are ready to attack, because all we do is talk! While we talk, they are doing! Talking never has, never will, get it done! Search your souls, look in the mirror, die fighting or hiding? Imagration control not gun control AMEN phil!! Who gives a fork about Muslims? This is America! We need to concern ourselves with our country, we shouldnt care about who gets insulted anymore, when you attack us, we seal the borders, round up illegals send them either home or to grave! We need to start with the White House where the enemy lives, and go from there! The first family is fake! Think about the fraud that has been perpetrated against us! Obama isnt even president, its all phony! We know that. Read the Declaration of Independence. It acknowledges that people are long suffering before finally breaking. Look at the French Revolution, for an example. America has its sights set on the 2016 election as a last chance to solve this problem politically. Our lives have to get much worse before it becomes unbearable to the point of stirring the people to action. Relax! The powers that be are trying to stir up some mentally unstable people and provoke incidents, in order to clamp down harder. The time isnt right and the patience of the people isnt yet exhausted. Correct! Thats bs its already high treason! Obamahu Akbar! Violation of the law demands impeachment, fines and prison. It is time for people to take action. That ship has sailed! That ship has sailed, lawful etiquette didnt work! Its now a time to kill. I would suggest that we contain our loose wording as if the secret service feels a threat they will come visit you and put you on the no fly list, we can think it but be careful what we write BS we are free to say whatever we want, if not they have won! Yes, you are free to say whatever you want and you are also free to accept the consequences, lawful or not. Coward Robert, you have distinguished yourself in the last few hours here as a loose cannon. There is no glory in martyrdom. I dont seek glory! I seek patriotism! I wish to stir up revolt. I was born in this country in 1962 Ive seen a lot, its my homeland! Well Im also only one person. I too was born in this country, in the 1940s. Im an 11th generation American, my ancestors on both sides having come here during the Puritan migration. I dont like whats happening any more than you do. Revolution as you envision it wont happen until a greater percentage of Americans feel the potential possibility for political remedies have been exhausted, run their course.and are hopeless. Right now, they still look to the election of 2016 to give a ray of hope. They are not less patriotic than you just because they seek that. I know, I agree, Im just saying that our rights are being ignored and faster than an election next November! There is an urgency here! I am not trying to belittle you or anyone else, I love you and our countrymen, we have a very serious decision that needs to be made! Agreed! That decision will be made. Everyone is watching developments and hoping against hope that the current steady deterioration does not fall to critical mass. Loose cannon? Im one person! Without my fellow man Im a sitting duck! We are at a crossroad, there wont be an election next year or ever! Our votes dont count! They havent in a long time! The Bilderbergs put who they want in office! Lynch already is taking away our freedom of speech if we say something bad about Islam she said she will prosecute us, Im only saying we have bigger issues and should pick our battles wisely, I agree with you tho, we are losing our rights more and more each day and it pisses me off but I hate visits from the three letter alphabit people Leave off the kill word!!! People, this is it, this is the reality right before action! We either fight or die! Dont you get it, it doesnt get any clearer, the time is now! Why should liberals be able to say what ever they want, and we get muzzled? That is wrong! I for one, will never give up! The hell with impeaching the governors Impeach Obama ASAP Was Eric Holder right? Are we a country of cowards? If all we do is talk, and not act, he was right! Join your state militia, congregate, each state communicate create a plan of action, then have the internal fortitude to act! everybody can be put on this list and there will be no more guns in the hand of honest citizens. While we scream impeachment, and rule of law, the enemy is gaining ground! That is what they were counting on! We think we are too civilized to fight for our country, the entire time they are advancing! Wake up! Piss on their list! Never give up your guns! Really tho how many people will open the door and start shooting as they go door to door with the swat team? They wIll not come announced, they probably will come at night for the ones they feel will be a problem, at least we can go quickly then To include the biggest Terrors in Americana Hussein Obama and his whole cabinet! This is not a dictatorship, so some people need to get their heads away from their prostrate. And so it begins. Democrat governors sign executive orders stripping people who are on the federal watch list of their second amendment rights. Now I wonder who the people will be that our government considers dangerous. Anyone? All illegals should be sent there asap and lets see how long the ban lasts. Also anybody that had to Swear to Protect the Constitution of The United States of America! Should be charged with Treason. Why is this not being none? We would not have this constant decline of America. Listen up America! Stockpile your ammo, purchase as many weapons that you can NOW! Any elected official,local, state, or federal who supports BHO should be tried and convicted of treason to this great nation. Keep your powder dry boys and LOCK AND LOAD! MOLON LABE! I meant to add That swear to Protect the Constitution and then goes against it should be charged! Malloy is a leftist and a traitor,and should be immediately arrested and charged with treason. Same for Owebama! OBAMAGO POUND SAND! SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED means just that! In the state of TEXASGovernor Abbot believes in the United States Constitution/Second Amendment. So again OBAMA GO POUND SAND! You pathetic dictator wanna be. You sick Stalinist a$$ hole. This is not just an attack on the 2nd amendment but also on due process!!! Witch affects everyone!!!! Actually this proof that once the 2nd amendment goes so do the rest of our Rights!!! It is not only time to impeach and deportwhitehouse barry,but it is time to get the beings that think our CONSTITUTION is NOT the law of the land and think that they know more than the American Patriots that drafted this great document,purge them also.There is an absence of commom sense among the liberal/socialist/communists in AMERICA,and probably all over the world. Mr Harper just said it. No govenor can overide the constitution. Obama thinks everybody will just automatically do it cause someone said it was legal. It is not. Does this moron, or any other politician think that by making it more difficult for a law- abiding citizen to purchase a weapon, is going to make it more difficult for a criminal/terrorist to purchase one through black market and other illegal channels. Is this a gun-grab, naivety or just plain incompetence? Yes! WHO ARE THEY TRYING TO FOOL ? THEY LEAVE THE BORDERS OPEN, IMPORT UN-VETTED MUSLIMS WHO REPEATEDLY VOW TO KILL US INFIDELS, LET TERRORISTS OUT OF PRISON AND, THEN WANT TO TAKE GUNS AWAY FROM HONEST CITIZENS ! I totally agree with you ALLAN, but were not the infidels, the real infidel is the ones that follow the cult of Islam! We can blame congress for this. They have let Obama get away with his blatant disregard of the constitution and his end run around congress for seven years. Considering that, why wouldnt he urge governors to use the same methods that have worked for him. A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free obozo can have my guns if he can get past the wall of lead I will be throwing at him. I know one Governor who will tell the gay golfer where to go and Where he can put his pen and his phone. Obeyme will not tread on TX. Tell Obeyme to go F himself with a muslime machete. !! WHAT AN IDIOT! x2 I listened to Gov. Malloys, of Connecticut, press briefing where he is attempting an executive order to ban gun sales to people on the no-fly list. During his brief he stated that FBI records show that, between 2003-2014, there were 2233 instances where people on the no-fly list attempted to purchase firearms or explosives. Of the 2233 instances, 2043 (91.4%) were successful. Yet, none of these people have been arrested for shootings or terrorist activities. This leads the average This idiot (The Governor of Connecticut) is preaching for gun control when no crime has been associated with these people. He states facts that detract from his position. In simpler terms, he is using facts to back up his position that DO NOT back up his position. IN HIS OWN BRIEF, he shows the errors of his reasoning and believes that the average Seems that Bloomberg and Soros is paying well!! The average sheeple does not spend much time thinking or reasoning. They will believe all who share such an agenda. The governor obviously doesnt do much thinking either. He is getting closer and closer to martial law by executive order! That will be the end of things in the U.S.! No Sir, it will just be the start! This is all about control and they have to get rid of weapons to control the public. Avoid the risk. Hes advertising he will sign an executive order. Impeach him now. Outlaw guns, they are trying to limit and ban free speech, free association, Christianity is all but outlawed, with Islam being first among equals at least as far as the Dems and their Liberal/Socialist friends. (That makes no sense to me, but then Im not brain dead.) There are only 10 Amendments in the Bill of Rights. Governors who listen and partake in ObamaTheTurds plans will fail just like so many DemonKKKRatic Representatives and Senators who listened to ObamaTheTurd about Obamacare and other socialist-communist ideology driven laws and regulations. Such laws are Unconstitutional. You dont get it! Obama cant be impeached! He never was eligible to be president, the liberals allowed him to be sworn in, now he is protected by the constitution! If you think small you wont get it! This entire fiasco is on a global scale, the global elitists call the shots, they send in the fence jumpers when Obama doesnt do exactly as they say, his fate is sealed! The first ten Amendments to Constitution are well established as the Bill of Rights and can NOT be reduced or amended. If one Amendment of Bill of Rights can be nullified by Executive Order then why not the rest? Where do the criminals who violate the Bill of Rights stop and who stops them? It is my considered opinion the Constitution and the Bill of Rights have the sole purpose of LIMITING the power authorized to elected officials. If those elected officials willingly violate those LIMITS they have become anarchist operating outside the law. Since they themselves have declared anarchy it would be good cause shown to repel their actions with equal or greater force, would it not? For your review, Amendment 10: Interpretation, in plain English, of that Amendment, means Amendment 2 Right to keep and bear arms shall NOT be infringed. That right belongs to We the People who are citizens. It, like all other Rights in the Bill of Rights are granted to We Citizens by our Creator, not government officials. True, Obama ignores the constitution, ignores congress, he has committed high treason and We the people are up to bat! Its on us now! Connecticut is just asking for more disasters. Malloy is making a fairly irrelevant gesture, but the path, if unchecked, will lead to less possible resistance to another Sandy Hook event. The one thing these governors fail to realize is the fact that it is a lot easier to remove them, than Obama. Make calls, find out how to join youre state militia, states and their militias converse, make a plan, choose a date and time, then execute the plan, revolt! Its scary, it is surreal, it is reality! We have been attacked and their plan was brilliant! We have the responsibility to act! Voting wont work, talking wont work, revolution will work! I dont want to be shot at, I dont want to die, my life is comfortable, but die we will, so if we must die, why wait on death? Take the fight to them! Or die like cowards! WELL: Time to get new governors. The ones who follow the HUSSEIN OBAMA lead all need to be removed from Office and replaced with AMERICANS IMMEDIATELY.!! EOs are NOT LAW!!!!!!!! It is as plain as day that a storm brews, it is coming, everyone knows its coming! Do we just wait and hope someone helps us? No! We act! We owe our fallen countrymen to be courageous! Arrest him and try him for treason. treason and fraud!! How does one get on these lists? How does one get off? What due process is afforded people on these lists? Now all a gun grabber needs to do is put me on one of these lists and they can block my 2nd amendment right? What could possibly go wrong? First of all, we need to start facing facts, Obama is an imposter, he is not the president of the United States! What he is, is our enemy who fraudulently came to power by global elitists and get that through your heads! You cant defeat the enemy if you cant describe your enemy! We know that! Weve known it for quite a while. Then what are we, going to do about it! Im on youre side! Those lists are bogus! Just like everything else! They can say anything they want! Obama is acting illegally bypassing congress and the possibilities of his actions are limitless! CT. gov is the dumbest gov of all 50 states. CT is losing more people who cant afford to live here under awful democraps All roads lead to Revolution! THIS ONCE GREAT COUNTRY CALLED AMERICA IS MOVING CLOSER CLOSER TO CIVIL WAR IS REPUBLICANS IN CONGRESS DO NOT STOP OBAMA NOW!!! If, and you are 100% correct, if the men, man-up! I live in the southeastern United States, I assure you, our governors will not go along with this plan! We all have to die, we cant escape death! I for one refuse to see my wife raped before my eyes and be beheaded afterwards! Our children raped, our women raped, people beheaded in the streets! This is what Obama is bringing here! In England Muslim Rape Gangs have been targeting English women and adolescent children. Every time you think it cant get any worse, it does.. Dont sugar coat this situation! It is closer than you think! Our borders are open! At the top of the federal watch list should be Barack Obama and everyone in his administration. Obama would love nothing more than to have an excuse to declare Marshal Law. For now, call your congressman and help them grow a spine, demand they stop Obama. 11 months until the general election, 13, until Obamas reign of terror is over. That is unless the GOP establishment blows it again. We can come together as men, arm ourselves and go guard the borders! There isnt going to be an election!!!!! Get it through youre heads! This is the war we are in, only we are the ones not engaging! We are out of time! The war is now, we have no time for logic, its past that! When you have a rogue POTUS for the first time you are in shock, slap yourselves and come to youre senses! Once they disarm the human population- we will see a mass murder- democide the likes of which have never before been seen- I am a sinner, I was born into sin, Im constantly asking for forgiveness, I believe that God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten son and whosever believes in him will not die, but have eternal life! I also believe this is all a part of Gods plan! The bible says there is a time for everything under the heavens, like it or not, its a time to kill, or be killed! We are all tax payers, we pay for a military, we demand our military fight for us who are too old to be in the military, too handicapped, too young, too unqualified. When there is an enemy declaring they are going to destroy us, and our president wont allow our military to act, and he is telling our enemy hey guys, come on in they wont hurt you, we are in serious trouble! You tell me, after all Obama has done, and continues to do, would him allowing an election to end his reign be characteristic of him? Heres a thought. How about we do an executive order to have the Kenyan removed from the Peoples House. Yes! Logic! How long b4 they DECLARE THE NRA as a terrorist group and the ENTIRE MEMBERSHIP is placed on the list. Killary has already called us TERRORISTS Just think! You go to buy a gun to protect yourself and your family, jump through all the hoops, and your name isnt on the No-fly list. Now you have your gun. Maybe even go through gun training and how to maintain that weapon, safely. Now, big surprise, your name is on the No-fly list! Next will be swat teams and local police showing up at your homes, searching, investigating, questioning your neighbors, questioning your family members, quite possibly confiscating your monetary wealth, your home, your car, your belongings. And if you resist, what then? All this in the name of, as they say, Gun Safety, and/or, Common Sense Gun Laws? Your government is concerned about your SAFETY? I dont have the answers, I just have this memory of the bravest men on planet earth, who Ive taken for granted my entire life, that our spirit, our aggression, our pride, our patriotism, our love for our countrymen would never allow such things as this to happen in our homeland! I keep hoping to hear Obama has been taken into custody for treason, his entire administration has been detained, and our military leaders have taken control of the peoples house and the highest branches of government until logical governance can be restored! Im afraid and its too real, its too unbelievable. AMEN!! I too pray and hope Ovomit finally gets taken into custody! For me it couldnt happen anytime to soon as in 7 years ago would not have been soon enough! Ive owned guns since I was ten yrs old, my dad, and my grandfather tought me to safely handle guns. We hunted, and thats a memory Ill never forget. Do you know why there is hardly no crimes committed in the country folks neck of the woods? Because theres a gun either hanging in our back window of our trucks, in our clove compartments, and in our homes. Country folks dont have to worry about being pulled over with a gun in our cars, our law enforcement officers know us, we wave at each other passing by, we respect each other, help each other, and take it for granted there is a gun nearby. If the governors add gun control to the no fly list watch and see how fast all the people in US end up on that no fly list it will take less than 24hrs. for that list has every one in the US will be on it. We need to get rid of Obama and Hillary to start with I just dont know how it he dose what ever he wants no matter what the law say he dont care about you or me or any one else unless you are Muslim. People must fly to work and pay taxes! It wont take long to see it as a mistake! Well when Americans cant fly, business will suffer, taxes will suffer, it will last about two weeks! Let me ask you, could this sort of thing happened before cell phones, and the Internet? How did we build America without cell phones? We went to the moon, we won wars, we built skyscrapers, we built communities, we functioned, we never had a president do the things this one has done! Is it coincidence? Is it tied together? Is it because we know everyones every move? The bible says in the end times every thing weve ever done would be shouted from the rooftops! The anti-Christ would rule the air. Who owns most of the social media outlets today? George Soros? I live in Colorado and one way to guarantee that the State goes Republican in 2016 would be for our Democratic Governor to attempt to add more control rules or laws here in the State. We already have background checks for purchases, transfers, and gun shows and 15 round magazine capacity limits. We still had the Planned Parenthood Shooting in Colorado Springs by yet another wingnut who was NOT on the NO FLY LIST. So when are these Politicians gonna admit this has nothing to do with increasing safety only disarming the American Public so they can further push us around. Before moving here, I sent emails to all, EVERYONE, that was in office here in Co. In it I stated that just because you legalized marijuana DOES NOT mean you can smoke it while in session and making laws! Needless to say in the past election I DID NOT vote for Hick-up blooper! To me hes a DemoCRAPERS DemoCRAP! When Ovomit says jump, he replies how high and how many times oh great one! Its all in the talk. On and on about Common Sense Gun Laws, and Gun Show Loopholes, and Gun Safety. Its all propaganda leading the SHEEPLE to believe that removing all guns will be the answer, like other nations have done. (?) The one item thats being ignored, underfunded, and most explicity un-mentioned is the Illegal Gun Market, where anyone with Cash-in-Hand can buy a, or more than one, gun(s), of their choice, with NO questions asked. Really? How do you think gang members and criminals and mentally ill and felons get guns? Certainly not at a gun shop or gun show where they would have to comply with the laws. Just think, if that Black Market were shut down, completely, by the laws we have, and with proper funding, then even more lives would be saved. Now thats really Common Sense. malloy is a communist and should be tried for treason. You know youve struck a nerve when they block you! Who is spending millions on gun control? Lived in Hartford periodically, once during time of the Hartford Riots, Where the diversity sector was burned, by their own diversity. Thwarted a diversity instigated robbery, by youthful athletic ability only. Watched as the rabid security team from a well known tavern, beat a disorderly mans skull into shards and pools of blood, against a concrete and steel sidewalk, .while the crowd cheered them on. Mobster figures were plentiful around Connecticut and obviously in total control. When they physically desired an attractive young girl one evening while we waited for a table,, it took the tavern security several long minutes to talk the well known Connecticut Crime boss .and his bodyguards, out of it.. The police even fear them. Watched intently as one Human Tank [most obvious a bodyguard], took over a restaurant one night, strutting around challenging anyone to fight him. Hartford Police stayed outside and waited until he grew bored with his terrorism and left. They only told him to go home. Greeted several people walking in the popular city park on a cheerful day. Noted that most every person shifted their eyes away and kept walking in silence. One of them stopped, then staring directly at me in disbelief, asked me what in the h I was up to. Another person cautiously said We dont talk to strangers, where are you from? Violence is apparently a condition required for self defense while in Connecticut? No wonder their elected Gov is so paranoid. of the proletariat. his voters. Bloomberg is spending millions on gun control, as is Soros! The anti-Christ, will rule the air! Who owns most media outlets? An atheist Hungarian! So typical. Ozymandias, King of Kings, thinks that the duly elected governors of the states are his appointed satraps, bound to obey his slightest whim. Is this delusion or dementiaor evil and malice? And he hasnt been crowned god-emperor yet. What do Soros and Bloomberg have in common?, heritage! Gods people are the Israelis! The anti Christ will broker a peace accord between Israel and Muslims! Would the Israelis be fooled by a non Israeli ? So what are people from Israel? Soros and Bloomberg are like Israelis Very wealthy men are spending millions on gun control, these same two men are of the same heritage as the israelis, the antichrist will be of this same heritage! The anti Christ will rule the air, he will broker a peace deal, he will fool the Israelis, he is spending millions on gun control in the USA right now! George Soros? Michael Bloomberg? My feelings as well. Any executive order, whether from the president or one of his cronies which contradicts the constitution and the 2nd Amendment is automatically null and void. Save your save time and breath. Lets seehow many Govs. bow down to Obama,foregoing the American citizen and their RGHTS.All those who act as cowards and follow Obama SHUOLD beracalled ASAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It is about to get really ugly here at home! Has the 72 Muslims in obamas administration be fired yet??? Yes, impeach all governors that go against the constitution Recall vote all of the traitorous scum OUT!!! Take any Governor to Court and charge them with a crime for not upholding the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. and have them Impeached and the President also for telling them to do this unlawful act against the Citizens of America Amen to the impeach and punish..Ob. I stand with this country and the right to bear arms!!!! Ply it from my cold dead fingers..the only way they will get my weapon!!!! I think its about time to bring OLD SPARKY out of retirement Watch the states that do this, crime is going to go up and so is gun purchases. Criminals and terrorist are always going to get guns. This reminds me of Prohibition. Government is obviously full of idiots being lead by some really bad people these days with another agenda entirely. Nothing stops people from drinking or drugs if they crave those things. And nothing will stop criminals or terrorist from getting guns or whatever else they seek to steal or harm others. This will just disarm and enslave the population and it is just beginning. This is also the real agenda for government. Look at EU and the rest of the world. Mexico, only the government and cartels are armed. France, only government and terrorist are armed. Brits, only the backup cops are armed and the terrorist. ETC.. Want to wait in the US until the police arrive to defend you, good luck. And once we are unarmed what kind of resistance to our government can we give? That is the whole purpose of the second amendment. If they gut it, it will be to our detriment surely. Typical crap from the wannabe dictator Ovomit. Lies, obfuscation, unconstitutional behavior., abuse of power. All things that forced a revolution some two hundred plus years ago. If I were govenor, the executive order I would issue would be to outlaw security guards, who are personal protection for celebrities, govenors, secret service, etc, from having weapons using more than a single shot. At least it would keep out all the politicians, and liberals who are ant-gun from having the protection that they want to deny the rest of us. The gestapo has arrivedoffically! Does the person in the White House, think that not owning guns, will help cut down on HIS carbon footprint? Every governor should criminally and civil liable for deaths and injuries to each citizens harmed when they initiate a gun confiscation or no gun zones. If citizens hanging on to their constitutional power they should recall their governor and arrest them as co-conspirators of terrorists. After all they should be placed on the hiring page of the no fly list. Thats where the DHS gets their hires and president hires his from his networks to put terrorists in his appointed Muslim branches especially terrorists related areas. if states cant regulate and/or control illegal immigration, then any state law, executive order, or local ordinance created by a state is NULL AND VOID!!! BUT, WITH THAT BEIN SAID, local and state governments can and will make and change laws to suit themselves til they are challenged and sued for unconstitutionality. Mr. OBama, our only Muslim president, needs to strip Americans of their protection from ISIL. All I can say is what the Texans told the Mexicans at Goliad who wanted their only cannon. Come and get it! It is more than possible, in fact it has happened that people get put on these watch lists by mistake. To deny a protected Constitutional provision the state can be held accountable and will pay damages. Where is the ACLU? So Guv, are you comfortable with violating your citizens rights because they have been placed on the list? What is the criteria for being placed on the list? How will this prevent someone from illegally purchasing a gun on the black market or stealing a firearm and committing a crime? Are you prepared to be indicted once the Constitution is restored? Inquiring minds want to know! I think we need a buy back system so when legal gun owners sale a gun it remains safe they get their money back and guns stay out of hands they shouldnt be in . If everyone that was a legal us citizen with a gun in the home crime would drop on Americans soil because it has in else where. If there were less confusion with the legal places to carry and a legal carrier of a weapon should be allowed to carry hand guns any where, ecept jail,prisons,courthouses? A lot of angry people attack courthouses so Im iffy on that one,banks? Concealed legal maybe ,or federal buildings of any kind. Basically any location that should already have a gun there. Also why is the gun laws different everywhere in the old West and else where everyone had a gun and everyone could protect themselves. Making it harder for a person to defend themselves is morally wrong and bad can happen anywhere, moves, on the street ,in your home, office anywhere. We should fight for ourselves. Get gone Obama. They trying to start a new civil war in America? Any governor that follows this order should be tried for treason against the people and the Constitution of the U.S., along with ANYONE else bypassing the Constitution. Connecticut gun sales are through the roof since his he made that brilliant announcement. Ma-load-in-his-pants is a fool. He cant tongue kiss Obamas bony, tail deep enough. People are already leaving his state in droves. Make room in prison or the morgue for any SOB governors who try this I am not saying I would kill them, just saying that someone might not be as diplomatic as I, and not wait for a trial and jail. Obama is a useless no good POS who needs to go asap! How can denying people their constitutional right to defend themselves reduce mass killings? This is madness. As more guns get into the right hands and more people are being properly trained to use them, more mass shootings are being prevented. The liberal news media just dont want to report this. Why did mass shootings become such a problem only after Obama took office? This governor is leaving his state wide open for terrorism and for legal gun owners to be prosecuted. Soall these scum need to do is put all of us on the no fly list so they can (try) and take our guns. How convenient! Bring lots of mags. YOU WILL NEED ALL OF THEM. and when im empty, i will beat you to death with my weapon Governors cannot legally change or ignore the US Constitution. A felon cannot legally have firearms, a citizen can. It will never stand up to legal scrutiny. Now everyone writes their own laws , citizens be damned Governors have no authority to issue executive orders that violate the rights of citizens protected by the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. A State, as part of the Republic, cannot restrict a citizens rights granted by the Constitution. The State can broaden the right; but, again, broadening the right cannot violate other parts of the Constitution. Just because Obama has decided to violate the Constitution and the Laws of this Nation does not mean that the Governors can violate the Constitution and the Law. I anticipate that specific Governors will make the attempt. Brown in California will definitely make the attempt. But, I dont expect every Governor to follow Obamas example. Im enjoying the frustration that Obama is having trying to inflict more damage to this Nation. His legacy will be one sided the first President to quadruple the National Debt. And, thats hard to do at the current level. Look how many new diseases we now have in our country. They are now saying TB is in California. I guess if the Muslims dont get us the diseases will or hunger. Thats next control the food and water you control the people that is after the Government takes our guns. Makes me wonder how many people really will stand up for our Constitution before they takes our guns. Petition s arent working because I have sent a lot and the more I send the more Obama comes up with more executive orders which is unconstitutional.The more our Governor, and our Representatives ignore them. They act like it doesnt matter whatthe people want because they are going to do whatever they want, unless they are getting BIG bucks, like they dont already have bunches of money. Ive been wondering why states can make their gun laws more drastic than the federal government, but not immigration laws. civil disobedience, state by state. Do not obey this crap. So, back off, gun grabbers. The mood of the country will not put up with you much longer. Maryland alreaady does this. sorry, obozo, but it can NOT and will NOT be donethis FKING monkey is trying to get people killedSMH I see a Benelli M4, a SIG AR, and a 1911. I only have two of the three. Guess this news means I need to go out and get more guns. You can tell Obama and those liberl moronic governors to go perform an act of intercourse upon themselves The American People need to bypass all legislators that support and empower Obama as a president (since he and his regime have been disqualifed from the offices that they claim they hold) and urge law enforecment to send this tyrannical terrorist and his legislative supporters all to jail for high crimes, immediately. Its time to act lIke our founding fathers did,some will get this most will not! Molon Lab Lets all complain about the obvious violation of our Constitutional Rights and then sit and watch it happen. You can blame the idiots on the left all you want but this is happening because we allow it to happen. Its amazing how these politicians sell themselves as experts on everything (and enough people are willingly gullible enough to believe them). The U.S. Constitution and The Bill Of Rights are (supposed to be) the supreme law of the land. Any honest 8th grader should know this. EVERY law thats passed has to pass muster with the U.S. Constitution. THIS is supposed to be the prime objective of the Supreme Court-to determine (NOT through opinion), whether a law is Constitutional, or Unconstitutional. Yet, they keep getting away with defecating all over it. I plead once more: WAKE UP, AMERICA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I wouldnt want a dangerous person able to get a gun legally (illegally we all know thats not a problem) but the dangerous part here is what causes a person to be placed on a Watch List? How arbitrary is the decision ? Theoretically , every name in the telephone book could be placed there. What controls are there ? I live in California that pile of dung we have for governor will do it, he is a communist to begin with, and he hates Americans, He gets on his knees for Obama and the treasonous Democrat party. Lets remove all armed security from any governor who tries this BS. We taxpayers should not be stuck with the bill to pay for protection of any governor who attempts to deny us the ability to protect ourselves. Do not allow yourselves to be DISARMED They do not have the power to do it so if they come to your door make sure your weapons are well hid The time to rise again in a new 1776 is quickly comming so arm up ammo up buy long term food rats and a way to purify water (life Straws are good and Berky) The Feds backed down from Bundy Ranch becasue we had them quickly out numbered out gunned and we had snipers on their snipers.. THE DEMOCRATS IN CONNECTICUT ARE THE REASON I LEFT THERE MANY YEARS AGO==AND IS NO BETTER THERE TODAY Spoiled brat spoiled brat is now enlisting other useful spoiled brats. Evil bastards are out to enslave all of US REVOLUTION will be the SOLUTION, Armr==========================? mInr, NSA! A recall is where the people of a State directly sign petitions to force a new election for a governor. An impeachment process is where the State legislator indicts and tries a governor for what they consider misdeeds and remove a governor if found guilty. I think we need both along with term limits. Thanks Roberto, now I recall the process. I fully agree with term limits and removing our corrupt politicians. Without term limits, we will never get rid of the near total corruption in DC. Its obvious your not going to let my 2 comments go through. Did I say anything that isnt true? I even changed He** to heck. Obama is a treasonous liar, who was never qualified to be President to begin with, if we had a real Congress that cared about our country at all, Obama would of been impeached long ago. I have said since the early seventies that I will never agree with anymore changed to our guns laws but after 45 years I have finally changed my mind. I have to admit the Democrats have stumbled upon a good idea sort of. What I suggest we do is instead of using the no fly list we simply use the voter registration list. Anybody listed as democract should immediately turn over all guns. Then we create a mandatory FLY LIST. All democrats should be put on this list and flown out of the country one way. No returns. Then maybe we could prosper as a nation again. Governors should, politely of course, tell Obama to Piss Off Obama has went total fascists for sure, that fool should be impeached for treason now. The politicians have become terrorists: the only difference between the constitution bastardizing politicians and a lethal weapon wielding terrorist is that they use the threat of jail time for you as their weapon of choice. 