Theyre Coming For Your Guns Using the Same Stupid ArgumentsBy Melissa Dykes All that on top of a renewed push for the no-fly no-buy loophole legislation, which, considering the guy supposedly worked for a top DHS contractor, he was vetted more than most people to buy guns by the very agency that claims it is securing the homeland! So tell me again how would the no fly no buy list have magically prevented Orlando? Answer: it wouldnt have. Visit Melissa Dykes website TruthstreamMedia.com, Subscribe on YouTube, Like on Facebook, Follow on Twitter. Everyone should realize that this was planned for a very long time so that when the SHTF we wont come to the banking cartels doorsteps armed. The current regime of the Usurped States has had more mass shooting on his watch than any U.S. potus in history. Funny how they all started right after the passage of the Smith Mundt Modernization Act of 2012 huh? Must be coincidence Please splain to Lucy. Idiotic response! However very typical of an ignoramus. Whats your view if you dont mind I ask. Im not a huge fan of guns but the person is correct about mass shootings, and it seems quite obvious to myself and many, many others that tptb have been making an increasingly intense push to disarm the citizenry- while, at the same time, civil rights are being dismantled, police forces are being heavily militarized as well as most if not all federal agencies buying large quantities of guns and ammunition for unclear purposes. So Im wondering what makes him an ignoramus, exactly. The ignoramus part is related to his misunderstanding of the American Republic. The people control the government, not by guns, but by the ballot box. If the people are too foolish to vent their distrust of government at the ballot box, then they deserve what they get! Everyone complains about Obama, but elected him twice. Everyone knows GW Bush was an incompetent fool but elected him twice. That is not the leaders fault, but the peoples. No amount of guns can cure that built in stupidity. Gilens and Page. You might want to start there when youre ready to learn how govt really works. Just a little interesting info from Mother Jones not really known for its Christian or conservative views. Whats the key ingredient? None of the other presidents had legalized propaganda used against the US population. These incidents kicked off right after the end of the legislative sessions of 2012 w/the passage of the Smith Mundt Modernization Act. Check it out. It has NO place in a free society. It is one piece of legislation that is most often overlooked by the truth community. ***** . As in, most of the shootings under Obama should have an asterisk next to it seeing as how they appear to be engineered events- whether outright hoaxes or perpetrated by elements within or associated with the govt. Making the official numbers dubious. I also love how they took a break from the staged shooting event business until the presidential nominees were all but confirmed. Hegelian bullshit and the dumbasses are lapping it up. Whenever the gov tells you that you dont need something, better get 2. people are worried about guns, Id say if you dont have ammo you best be stocking up. THATS our achilles heel. Odumbo shut down the last lead smelting plant and all our lead is IMPORTED. With so many countries already refusing the dollar, youd better believe that the supply could be bought up in a NY minute. Nailed it. For a moment that we enjoyed safety as prescribed by those who know what is best for us you know those who care about you and your safety, but you dont have diddly squat concern about theirs. Lets suppose for a moment that the good, the mad and the mad did comply. I presume then that USA would take the lead and completely dismantle its defence industries and defence forces. No soldiers, no ships, no planes, no bombs, no rockets and all the other things that peace loving governments want. I presume that as the same principles apply equally, then wars will cease forever? Yes that makes sense. It all makes sense .. to the likes of Obama, Hillary and the rest of that mob. yes that is what is going on in every country, they are allowing these evil monsters into every country to under mind your lives It is all planned by the Evil Scum who rules this planet by Fear and wars they create. WAKE UP, WAKE UP, WAKE UP And stop allowing yourselves to be treated like sheep. Their plan is working and next they will aske you to totally give up your God given freedom. you watch. In 1938, the country went mad over a fictional radio program about martians invading earth. War of the Worlds, the ultimate propaganda beta test, and it passed despite the ludicrous nature of the content, so the die was cast (enter OK City, Gulf of Tonkin, WMD, 9/11, Operation Galdio, Operation Northwoods, etc, etc) all either proven to never have happened or perpetrated by THE GOVT itself. SO, how many people, in light of these and Iran Contra, Fastn Furious, Benghazi, IRS scandal, etc, etc are willing to believe a word that comes out of these criminals mouths? Too many IMO. Thats ok, theyll thank us later for remaining clear headed because like they say, those who do not know their history are doomed to repeat it. It really comes down to this: In order to take guns away from people, whether they have a constitutional right to keep and bear arms or they just happen to have them, you have to go up against people who have the means to shoot back. Its obviously in the best interests of Takers that you lack the wherewithal to resist, so it makes sense that Takers will convince you that you dont need the wherewithal to resist. Consider: They have come for your right to educate your children intelligently. They have come for your right to grow your own nutritious food. They have come for your right to self-medicate. They have come for your land and your water, for the very hours of your life and labor. They have come for your family. They have come for your right to travel, your desire for privacy, for your right to free speech, free assembly, theyve diluted your ability to address or reach out to Them in any meaningful way, to tell Them to STOP DOING THESE THINGS TO US. Stating your objections is now tantamount to terrorism, and we now have an ongoing War Against Terrorism (no end in sight, suspects can be rounded up and incarcerated till the end of hostilities without habeas corpus or legal representation, per the NDAA). But you cannot reach Them by throwing intelligence at them. You cant hurt Them by starting a food fight or flinging herbs and supplements at Them, you cant reach Them through petition or voting in a notoriously rigged system. You cant expect Them to simply go away by shutting off your media access, or by living without required permits and not paying your taxes, because They can and will ultimately come after you withguns. All of their laws and rulings, right down to parking violations, truancy, and broccoli planting in your front yard tulip garden are enforced by threat of superior firepower. Lethal weaponry and ammo, pointed in your face if you defy Them. The person who comes to your door with a court order will carry a gun, the cop who stops you for a tail-light infraction or jay-walking carries a gun, the authorities all either carry guns or threaten you with calling in people who carry guns. There is only one sensible response to anyone who puts a gun in your face. Its not prayer, its not reasoned argument, its not voting for a different party, its not flashing a copy of your constitutional rights. The sensible response is either submission, or armed defense. That is your choice, that is the choice you are presented with, that is the position youve been placed in. Submit, or present equal force. Your choice. And weve been told, are being told continually, Fighting is not the answer. Really? In a nation which spends half its tax money on military might and blows up hungry water-starved villages all over the world, fighting is not the answer? Correct. Voting and discussion and prayer are the answer. Petition. Peaceful assemblage. Submission to the rule of law till better laws can be found and agreed upon. Join in community discussions. Right. Personally, I dont think so. I think our nation tried all that stuff before we became a nation, and it all failed. So we tried plan G(uns), and then we wrote it into the Constitution of the United States. The People shall have, uninfringed, the right to keep and bear arms. So no one can put a weapon in our face and order us to pay usurious taxes, to not grow organic cauliflower in our tulip beds, or make our daughters sign up for the draft (the NDAA now requires this, along with permission to jail people with suspected ties to suspected terrorists till the end of hostilities, without legal representation). I think Ill keep my guns, thanks for thinking about this, and me. Think about this: millions upon millions of Americans, owning weapons, is all that keeps us from becoming a gun-fearing, gun-driven totalitarian police state. You dont even have to shoot anyone who comes knocking, threatening to take more of your rights away. Just owning a gun helps secure our rights. Because They know some indeterminate percentage of us might get pissed off. And so far that percentage is still a large one. I dont know why this comment was roundly ignored but thats a pretty powerful statement there as well as being eloquently said and logically sound. I may have a slightly different take on parts but I Now Mr. Average dont be sarcastic. Im just pointing out to you that there is always a way without using guns, without shedding blood, without breaking ties. Thats all. We tried that before? There are always two sides to every story. Before the US became a country it was an assemblage of 13 British colonies. These colonies were managed by various governors sent from the Old Country to the new together with cohorts of military to protect them from possible enemies. Unfortunately for all parties concerned, the British national government was having structural problems with an increasingly incompetent King, George III. He was finally deposed due to mental instability and his attempt to govern while mentally unstable allowed the British Parliament to reduce all Monarchs rights with respect to national governance. It was a boon for British democracy but at the same time it resulted in the War of Independence. After the war was decided in the former colonistss favour, many former colonists moved North to the area where Canada sits today because they believed in British law and the strength of the British Parliamentary system of governance. Britain was not an evil usurper but it was hamfisted in its colonial governance. Approximately 80 years later, the nation of Canada was born from the same parent that the US was wrested from but this time without bloodshed and without rancour. In fact, if you remember what happened in the War of 1812, the US believing that everyone felt the way the original colonists felt about Britain, attacked the British colonies north of the Great Lakes. They were profoundly repulsed by those Northern colonists and unfortunately even the White House was burned to the ground to make the point that they werent interested in becoming free. So you see the myth of independence is not the whole story! Thanks for the Canadian history lesson from 1812-14, in which your half million colonials were somehow involved in burning down the US capitol, Archie. Most Americans thought it was the British army and navy who were responsible for that. My comment: We tried that before, referred to events which took place around 40 years previous. At that time King George was ignoring the many petitions of his American subjects, taxing them heavily without representation, forbidding free trade, housing armed troops in American homes, and trying to disarm colonial opposition at gunpoint. Some of us didnt like this and werent willing to wait 80 years for more just laws to prevail. You conclude: the myth of independence is not the whole story! Well, perhaps not, if you want to bring Canadian border history from four decades after the Declaration of Independence into it. You patient northern folks seem to have done of a marvelous job of handling your politely won freedoms, since. (For example, I understand you have quite the political brouhaha going on over gun ownership and registration these past several decades.) Which was, in fact, the topic of discussion, Archie, in case you lost sight of it: The right of the people to keep and bear arms, which was in fact the final spark which set off the American Revolution. You say: After the war was decided in the former colonistss favour, as though there were a panel of judges presiding over a sports event. Um, yeah, if you want to bring more history into it, the event was Yorktown, VA, 1781, and the judges were Generals Washington, Rochambeau, and Lord Cornwallis. Cornwallis had the deciding vote. He surrendered. At gunpoint. 