New Law In London Would Fine Homeless 1,000 For Sleeping Outside Or LoiteringBy John Vibes This Public Space Protection Order which was introduced by the council of Hackney will place a fine of 1000 on homeless activities. The order has been met with numerous criticisms, with many pointing out that the new laws effectively outlaw homelessness. Matt Downie of homelessness charity Crisis, one of the major opponents of this legislation, said that the homeless population in London has been victimized enough. Rough sleepers deserve better than to be treated as a nuisance they may have suffered a relationship breakdown, a bereavement or domestic abuse. Those who sleep on the streets are extremely vulnerable and often do not know where to turn for help. These individuals need additional support to leave homelessness behind, and any move to criminalize sleeping rough could simply create additional problems to be overcome, Downie said. A similar scenario was supposed to happen in Oxford, but during the consultation process, there was so much outcry from the local population that the government was forced to pull back on their proposal. In the case of Hackney, there was not a single consultation before the policy was introduced. The policy has been largely rejected by people in Hackney, and there have been thousands of people to sign petitions that ask for the ban to be lifted. However, it is not clear if the city has any intention of paying attention to these people. We have covered many other instances of homelessness being criminalized in recent months. As we reported just a few weeks ago, that homeless people and supporters in Sacramento were protesting a recent ordinance that makes it illegal for them to camp in the city. Many of them were camped out in front of city hall for the past month and are demanding a reversal of the camping ban. Soon after, police invaded the encampment in riot gear and made several arrests. In another story, we recently covered a homeless man was arrested in Fairfax Virginia this week after police discovered a home that he made for himself in a local park. John Vibes is an author and researcher who organizes a number of large events including the Free Your Mind Conference. He also has a publishing company where he offers a censorship free platform for both fiction and non-fiction writers. You can contact him and stay connected to his work at his Facebook page. You can purchase his books, or get your own book published at his website www.JohnVibes.com. How do you get to London? Close your eyes, shut down your brain, and turn left! What a joke! Like a homeless person can pay the fine. Eventually they will end up in jail for failure to pay ( here in the US debtors prisons are surreptitiously being re-instatedagainst the Constitution, of course) and then the government will be screaming it needs more money for the jails. Im always a bit amused by these laws that say we have to do a thing that we dont have the means to do or that we must not do a thing that is natural. That is the point; to lock them up in work houses to die like they did a century ago. They have already tried this in Columbia,SC . London still has some work houses so the GUV.are utilising all the free space.They are gradually getting rid of the old londoners by dint of high rents in order to sell to billionaires. Yep. All been done before LaVoy Finicum:17 min mark about voting https://youtu.be/7g8yfsr7N-E Ponder this: In the last 6 months, the super-PAC raised $25.3 million, meanwhile the homeless are criminalized. From TheMillenniumReporter First, that every serious candidate, from both of the main political parties, Is America Under a Judgment? http://annavonreitz.com/americaunderjudgement.pdf Funding and voting for politicians make us complicit in their improper and/or sounds like London authorities are following Las Vegas example in reverse there, citizens attempting to feed homeless are fined $1,000. More than one reason for homelessness job loss, medical factors, outfallings from military service (murdering nations for the Federal Reserve), etc. What callous looney tune came up with that idea, what does the queen or prince charles have to say about their homeless subjects being treated in such a shabby manner. Its the government who should be fined 1000 for each homeless person they have failed! whats the point, theyd just tax it out from the middle-class? just like crimes done by the police are almost never paid personally by the cops, but by the tax payers. The police are not the long-arm of the law, but the strong-arm of the rich. Ever notice how the affluent always avoid jail time while the poor always get the book thrown at them? I dont understand how it would work. Where do you send the bailiffs when the debt is not paid? This story is a) from June 2015 and b) not a story after 80,000 people (rightly) complained Hackney council withdrew the measure. Outrage doesnt excuse lack of fact checking (which took less than a minute). Thank you for pointing out the original date and the subsequent cancellation of the ludicrous proposal. However, as it is posted here with a current date, most people will naturally assume it to be a current story. I apologise for my rather harsh tone. In my defence, all I did was click the link in the first line of the story which took me to a Metro article published in 2015. Tragically, though it is asinine to consider fining the homeless in this way, it was not only plausible, it happened and was only withdrawn after totally justified public protest. I have now found the missing link! My apologies. Honestly I did click on the bold blue type expecting it to be a link but nothing happened :/ Fined. Unable to pay, then prison. Prison record, then unemployable. Hackney dropped the idea back in June, try and keep up. Sounds like the making of a well populated over financed prison system. _()_/ As many will also surely be thinking It is hard to believe this story is remotely true given the implausibility of the fines. I never understood the point of this. I saw the trend starting in US and I am ashamed is moving to London. No kidding, but if they had a 1000 pounds, do you think they would be sleeping on the streets? What does this accomplish? Its not the initial fine that is the main cause for concern, but the follow up when the person fined refuses cannot pay, and/or remains where they are. What then? Incarceration? Forced relocation? Death by lethal injection? Firing squad? THE PEOPLE IN POWER ARE THE ONES WHO SHOULD BE FINED, NOT THOSE WHO CAN NOT HELP IT, THEY CERTAINLY DO NOT CHOOSE TO BE HOMELESS The world is truly turning into a evil place when homeless people are expected to pay more than what they would earn if they could find a crappy job. fine them and with what money will they pay with what a load of numpties 