The Department of Justice Prepares to Step up War on Domestic ExtremistsBy Derrick Broze On Thursday February 4, Reuters reported that John Carlin, the Justice Departments chief of national security, and federal prosecutors are looking for new tools to deal with the rise of domestic extremists. Based on recent reports and the cases we are seeing, it seems like were in a heightened environment, Carlin told Reuters. Reuters notes that the U.S. government is facing an increase in opposition from militia groups, sovereign citizens, and other anti-government extremists. However, federal officials like Carlin claim they are impeded in their pursuit of violent domestic terrorists because, although there is currently a U.S. law that prohibits material support of internationally recognized terror groups, there is not such a law for domestic groups. Reuters reports: Carlin and other Justice Department officials declined to say if they would ask Congress for a comparable domestic extremist statute, or comment on what other changes they might pursue to toughen the fight against anti-government extremists. The U.S. State Department designates international terrorist organizations to which it is illegal to provide material support. No domestic groups have that designation, helping to create a disparity in charges faced by international extremist suspects compared to domestic ones. Carlin told Reuters that his counter-terrorism team is taking a thoughtful look at the nature and scope of the domestic terrorism threat and looking for potential legal improvements and enhancements to better combat those threats. The Justice Department will identify cases being prosecuted at the state level that could arguably meet the federal definition of domestic terrorism. Carlin and his team are not only remaining quiet about whether or not they are pursuing the legal changes but the entire team has not been revealed to the public. This means we have an unelected, secret team of people working on identifying which Americans should be deemed domestic extremists. Carlins silence should alarm all activists who consider themselves opposed to the policies of the U.S. government. Not only are those who espouse anti-government or pro-freedom rhetoric likely to be targeted but the penalty for being a part of such a group, or supporting such a group could eventually mean years in prison. Current laws allow for a maximum sentence of 20 years in prison for Americans who support groups on the State Department list of designated terrorist organizations. Under a 1994 law federal prosecutors could attempt to bring material support terrorism charges against people who are linked to groups not on the State Departments list but this has only happened twice since the law was enacted. If the Justice Department creates a list of groups that are deemed extremist or terrorist this could lead to stifling of free speech and expression. Part of the problem is the broad definition of extremism itself. As far as the pursuit and defense against extremism is concerned, the United States government has failed to adequately define the term, and by doing so, is allowing for perfectly legal behavior to become taboo or even criminalized. In June 2014, TruthInMedias Jay Syrmopoulos wrote about this trend: First there was the MIAC report, which claimed that potential terrorists include people who own gold, Ron Paul supporters, libertarians, and even people who fly the U.S. flag. Then in 2012, there was a leaked Homeland Security study that claimed Americans who are reverent of individual liberty, and suspicious of centralized federal authority are possible extreme right-wing terrorists. More recently, there is a Department of Defense training manual, obtained by Judicial Watch via a FOIA request, that lists people who embrace individual liberties and honor states rights, among other characteristics, as potential extremists who are likely to be members of hate groups. This document goes on to call the Founding Fathers extremists, stating, In U.S. history, there are many examples of extremist ideologies and movements, including [t]he colonists who sought to free themselves from British rule. If the United States government cannot clearly define who it is targeting in its war on extremism how are the people supposed to trust that these programs will not simply be used to target outspoken activists and critics of the government? These possible legal changes are only the latest effort to combat extremism by the Justice Department. In October 2015 Anti Media reported that the United Nations and the Department of Justice announced the creation of a new program designed to help local communities combat violent extremism. Called the Strong Cities Network (SCN), the plan calls for systematic efforts to share experiences, pool resources and build a community of cities to inspire local action on a global scale. U.S. Attorney General Loretta E. Lynch said, The Strong Cities Network will serve as a vital tool to strengthen capacity-building and improve collaboration,and will enable cities to learn from one another, to develop best practices and to build social cohesion and community resilience here at home and around the world. To counter violent extremism we need determined action at all levels of governance, said Governing Mayor Stian Berger Rsland of Oslo. To succeed, we must coordinate our efforts and cooperate across borders. The creation of the Smart Cities Network comes after the Justice Department announced it would revive a task force on domestic terrorism in an attempt to stop violence within the United States. In June 2014, former Attorney General Eric Holder stated the Domestic Terrorism Executive Committee would work to eliminate dangers from violent individuals who may be motivated by anti-government or racist views. The Federal Bureau of Investigation, the National Security Division of the Justice Department, and the Attorney Generals Advisory Committee are in charge of the efforts. The committee was originally launched to focus on right-wing extremism in the aftermath of the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing. As Americans slowly awaken to the truth of the American Empire, the powers that wish they were are scrambling to tighten their control grid. If the American public will not be subdued and distracted by elections or deadstream media bread and circuses, the Ruling Class will have to resort to more direct methods of stifling freedom. This presents the perfect opportunity for those living amongst the zombies to organize and strategize for solutions that do not rely on government or their corporate partners. Derrick Broze is an investigative journalist and liberty activist. He is a news editor for selfnewsPost.com and the founder of the TheConsciousResistance.com. Follow Derrick on Twitter. This article may be freely reposted in part or in full with author attribution and source link. They have abjectly FAILED against the Taliban, and Al Queda. Not just FAILED, actually INCREASED and STRENGTHENED them. Now they plan to follow the same failed tactics here I am sure the Domestic Terrorists are thankful. Please do not blame the right wing extremists, they are forced to come out to combat the Muslim Mullah This should be easy the extremists are right there in the District of Corruption. It is a short trip and they are easy to spot. But of course going after the people with the audacity to call out thieves, rapists, pedophiles, murderers, thugs and carpet baggers is better so they get paid more. Keep on voting someday you will learn it makes no difference at all, if it did it would be illegal. Looks like the totalitarian-tip-toe has morphed into jackboots echoing on the cobblestones like in pre-war Germanyas the blackshirts round up the intellectuals along with the disabled old useless eatersnow will come Pre-Crime along with the Thought Police compliments of the neo-nazis running Homeland Security.thing isits like the human race has a bad case of Altzhiemerswe never remember the past are apparently stupefied forever compelled to repeat this depraved insanity over over again for millennia..pathetic really Very true, Eddy. I have to ask, what on earth can we do? I ask this question of myself many times every day enact the deputizm plan. We are running out of time. I got 10 upvotes so far Can anyone tell me what they know of the deputizm plan? Start the discussion NOW! Please. Join your local Militia and get prepared! Thats what you do! Yes! Then have your state militia converse with neighboring state militias, and plan the attack! Or, we could send some little queer to knock on the front door of the White House, then when Obama answers the door, we could kidnap him! I dont think neo-Nazis and other hate groups are intellectuals. STOP ! You cant even post without fractionalizing and collapsing into me , us , against them or labeling ! This is serious and we had better band together as Americans under a Constitutional Republic . If your Bald and wear polka dotted shirts but believe in the supreme law of our land well lets get this thing going !? Did you read the Dept of Defense manual? It prohibits military joining hate groups like KKK, neo-Nazis, and other far right groups advocating discrimination and violence. I support a democratic Republic, and opposed armed thugs breaking into public buildings. I support non-violent resistance, and I support Bernie. I denounce both the armed thugs of the sovereign citizen movement, the ranchers, and the neo-cons in government. I urge you to read the Dept of Defense manual before exploding! socialism is/has been a dismal failure check your history. Ive heard that. However, of the 10 freest economies according to the conservative Heritage Foundation, most are social democracies. Of the 10 most prosperous nations, almost all are social democracies. Canada, which is more socialistic than the US, has an average wealth higher than the US. Universal education and healthcare, the hallmarks of modern socialism, are widely successful and popular. It all depends on what you mean by your undefined term. The most socialist of European nations are also the most prosperous and happiest. Since you do not define what you mean by socialism, your comment is meaningless. The great failures in the past 25 years have all been free market reforms which destroyed the economies of Russia, Ireland, Spain, Portugal, Greece, and other nations. Check your history.. Check your data- I talked to a nurse last night re: knee replacement wait times- 5 years !! average wealth was higher about a year ago but C$ is only 0.70 that of US$ right now so that has changed- provinces-not the federal government run education and have their own standards. Up until the last election we had a conservative government which was slowly trying to dissemble some of the wasteful socialistic infrastructure of the prior socialistic governments. Unfortunately, the last election saw a return to an even more socialistic group whose leader appears to be lacking in intelligence. I encourage American voters to elect one of the GOP candidates. At least there will be a possibility that the US will become a world leader again if you do. France is a socialist country! Ive worked with French people at a Micheline plant, they seemed happy, just incredible egomaniacs! There wont be enough jail space for the violent extremists that burnt down Ferguson and Baltimore if our govt decides to crack down. Arson is not extremism: it is a common crime. Ferguson and Baltimore were not burnt down, tho dozes of buildings were set on fire. One feature of extremists is the tendency to EXAGGERATE. Troll ransacking discuss. Trolls specialize in short angry bursts to smear or annoy. You are quite good at it. We may have to re-educate the public. Burning businesses is not extreme but discussing the virtues of the Constitution is extreme. Reading the Bible is extreme. The sooner we educate the masses the better. I had no idea prior to this, thank you. The only thing that will stop another Ferguson or Baltimore will be if the rioters wear cowboy boots and hats. Then, the Feds will be on top of it, and George Soros wont spend a dime fomenting hate and discord! Only problem Henry, they wont consider the BLM, occupiers or Ferguson thugs to be extremists. This is meant entirely for what they consider right-wing extremists. Have to get rid of those of us who know history and speak out. Thats why they teach our children to question everything their parents do now. Public School indoctrination on behalf of the Liberal Socialists. Socialist! If you wish to converse with me, said Voltaire, define your terms. I oppose both state and private/corporate tyranny. Is that what you mean by socialism? If so, I plead guilty. PLEASE STOP WATCHING MSM YOUR IDIOCY IS SHOWING. Those men didnt wake up one day and decide to go to the wildlife refuge. Research what the BLM has been doing too American citizens to run them off their land. The blm sets fires that burn their cattle to death and threaten the ranchers with arrest if they interfered. These men had seen enough the system was supporting the corruption at the complete and total expense of the people. Tree family who were ordered back to prison had already served their time this was a blatant case off of double jeopardy but nobody would help them. The system bullied that family, threatened their lives and violated their rights again and again and idiots liked you look at them as the bad guys. So you believe ranchers are a hate group? You kidding me? Post that begin So you believe. usually, from my experience with thousands of comments, make assumptions not in evidence. I urged you to read the Dept of Defense manual, which applies only to the the military, to understand their definition of a hate group. Instead, you leaped to a conclusion.So you believe. etc. Some ranchers do form hate groups and take up arms. Most ranchers, of course, do not. I define a hate group as one that promotes views that lead to extremists actions (such as armed breaking and entry) and which lead to discrimination and/or violence. But that is must my view. To see the DOD view, you must read their manual, which applies only to military employees. So I am not kidding you, because you are putting words, in effect, in my mouth by implying I think all ranchers are a hate group. I did not say or imply that. What I did say is that the Oregon bunch are armed criminals. And not all criminals belong to a hate group.so you are leaping to conclusions for which there is no basis. That is one of the problems with paranoia. By the ranchers in my post, I clearly meant the ranchers in Oregon who broke the law by breaking and entering with loaded weapons. We have not been discussing all ranchers, only those in the Oregon operation, and I consider them criminals, and I doubt if most ranchers would defend their actions. So no, Im not kidding, I do oppose such armed criminals. The Hate Speech Orwellian Scam: Redschilds in the sunset, most all hate, just some more than others. And the hidden hands, how exactly do you intend cutting them off, oh non-violet transistor! I urge you to learn to read the Dept of Defense manual and to take class in writing. Dayold Stuff Urging the word master to read, hahahahahahah, departments of pretense, Manuel indeed, your faulty tower clearly needs a refurb, and whilst youre about it Ill throw in a free class learning you (it be an Afrikaans thing, doos, look it up) in the correct way to say, to take a class in whiting, sweet lips, to be sure. I support a Constitutional Republic. Big difference between the two. Democracy is just one step behind socialism. You must be a terrorist then! Yippeeee! Thank you! I hope you were Disgusted enough to at least kick out an email or voice mail to your Rep about this? And by the way, for all those who are pro-active in the political fight against the Totalitarian Two-Step, at the big G socialist sock hop, there is a Representative( name escapes me at the moment) who is trying or did recently introduce a bill to charge anyone with a criminal offense lf they try to circumvent the 2nd/A or any Amendment with the power of their office? Lets get behind this Rep with as much support as we can. After the Fascist paramilitary right arm of the G just gave all us wannabee Molan Labe types a serious lesson in Oregon about trying to even think about starting any Jeffersonian type Revolutions, our only hope now is to beat them politically and repeal all anti-Constitutional laws! Islamo-fascist-neo-nazis..remember, aka Barry has Moslem Brotherhood Agents in Homeland Security, and every other Agency in American Governmentlook who they are targeting..American Citizens , who are a bump in the road to their goals of an Islamic America..Val Jarretts essay from 1978? expresses just that. those who do not know history are doomed to repeat it I feel like im in a nightmare. I never thought the US govt would consider a citizen that is pro-freedom to be an extremist that should face prison. I know this was something that happened in the Soviet Union but never thought it would happen here. Breaking into public buildings with loaded guns is hardly pro-freedom. Having a foreign entity like BLM to run our federal lands isnt pro-freedom either. Having a Federal agency oversee Federal lands as part of the commons protects us all from predators like ranchers who pay 90% less for public land use than private and have destroyed over 80% of fragile riparian corridors in the West, depriving flora and fauna of habitat and degrading our common public lands. Ranchers also run roughshod over the original landowners, the native Americans, whose burial grounds, etc are protected by the BLM. To claim denying the government is constitutional is absurd. No parks under under UN control. You are mad, lad. Shouldnt you be hiding under a bridge, I dont need protection from anyone, except the government. Sure there are aholes out there taking advantage of others, but Local Law (sheriff) should be able to take care of it. Worst case scenario we raise a local militia to let them know the community doesnt take kindly. Unfortunately militias are demonized in this country(intentionally), so the only option left to sheep is to bleat to the wolves. Our votes arent even counted in America! The BLM is a US government agency, perhaps a lawless one, but one nevertheless. Neverthemore: And the US government is an agency of The Cabal, so check-mate. Check-mate on what? That monied interests world wide are trying to manipulate the US government and have been doing so since the beginning of the Republic? Black and white checked mates, indeed If your reasoning is that the US government is no more within the control of the voters than was/is any US president, Obummer in particular, ordained Hildebeast in the future (assuming the War hasnt officially been announced and the faux erections cancelled) then we be on the same page, Roberto. Sadly for a once great Republic, we are on the same page. An agency that is not, under federal law, authorized to have armed agents or enforce the law. They are strictly authorized to perform land management under the supervision of local authorities. They cant even do that very well as statistics (nationally) show that BLM manged land has more wildfires and is in worse shape than locally managed land. First, your comment doesnt come close to addressing my response to the lie put out by Americans Wake Up that the BLM is a FOREIGN ENTITY or that the larger national parks are under UN control. Thats simply a far far Right conspiracy tin foil hat theory. However, I dont know how to break this to you, but BLM RANGERS and SPECIAL AGENTS are authorized by law to be armed. See http://www.bjs. gov/content/pub/pdf/fleo02. pdf for more information on federal personnel authorized to carry weapons. Dont ask me about military officers for the reason listed. However, I agree wholeheartedly with you the BLM isnt managing the land well even when they try. For instance, their forest policies of putting out ALL fires have led to mega forest fires. As you say, land the government manages is often in worse shape than locally, especially privately, managed land. The same goes for other agencies like the EPA and their recent mining waste spill. Id also agree strongly with an implication you make. Id say far too many agencies are armed and that should be changed dramatically. If armed help is needed they should call on either the FBI or federal marshals to provide security with certain reasonable exceptions. I also believe the militarization of law enforcement agencies, especially state and local, is a significant problem. Theyve also adopted an occupying force attitude; its them against us type. I believe its a direct result of the government usurping State authority and powers in an effort to destroy the concept of federalism and entrench the CENTRAL government as SUPREME. Its time to as Jefferson said to bind the federal government with the chains of the Constitution. Keep drinking the Kool Aid libtard! Just because you suck up to the jackboots, doesnt guarantee your staying out of their FEMA camps when it suits them and you wont have any rights left to avoid it. If you had any brains youd research into why those patriots moved into the refuge in the first place. But you wont because liberals are the most lacking in knowledge and common sense. Yes, but they think they are brilliant! John Kerry, Nancy Pelosi, Debbie Wasserman Shultz, I could go on and on! Idiots! And no doubt traitors to America and her constitution. Every democrat congressional representative knew that Obama wasnt eligible to be POTUS! They got him through the inauguration process, fraudulently! Now, we are stuck with him! Just for another 9 mos. However, there are many that believes he will find a reason to declare martial law and negate the elections making himself dictator ad infinitum. Look, the U.N. The global elitists, Bilderbergs, Iluminati, the Catholic Church, all of them want a One World Government! We, are holding it up! They sent Obama to get us to the point where outsiders will come and restore order! They must disarm us, and cause the dollar to fail. Create chaos, and there you have it! What you are describing is a result of extensive research and logical deduction. Its too bad that liberals cant do the same. Thats pretty much the exact plan, brother! I wish the rest of the world would wake up. Fear has the majority dead already. Its a shame really but many more will wake up but maybe too late. The NWO movement will trip over themselves. They now appear desperate to me as they are not even hiding it anymore.. Based on the sky in Northern Ca. today Its all going according to the Saul Alinsky and Cloward-Piven plans. It was predicted some years ago that obama would be the last president of the USA. This is certainly a very real possibility! We are in for an interesting year. Fact! The money system is a breath away from collapse world wide. i watch it closely and i cant see a turning back from this point All we have to look to as an example is Haiti under Dictator Papa Doc Francois Duvalier, who destroyed that nations constitution and made himself President for Life; and, passed it on to his son, Baby Doc Philippe Duvalier, upon his death. Although Haiti was never a completely stable country after its bloody revolution against France, it was far less stable after the brutal dictatorships of the two Duvaliers. President for Wife: Good crimes ahead Bolshevik hands over every land, the Ameeryrican Erections an 11-month smoke-screen every state band, the geoengineered dry ice machine stream whilst the sheople cheer and scream, yay yay, Obama out the way, tis the American way, peace will reign, well be great again, Hildebeast loves us so much, shell even give us the pantsuits rush. Eish. All it would take is a crisis, which is why he does nothing about our boarders or ISIS (or a number of other things). Its Saul Alinksys plan taken from Marxs plan. Many were claiming GWB would do the same thing. You idiots fall for it every time. The only difference here is that it was only the libtards that were saying it during GWBs stay. Only about 15-20 % of the population. Here, all of the conservatives (about 25%)are saying it along with another 20+% of the Moderates Since only about half of the libs can read and write, that makes only about 7-8% of the pop. were leveling that charge, as the other half didnt even know who was president at that time. You were quick to use libtard. So were clear Im neither liberal or conservative, subscribe to no political parties nor do I give a damn about them. If that appellation was directed at me its well and truly misdirected. What you clearly fail to recognize is that Obama has the exact same oligarchs giving him his marching orders as did his predecessors going back longer than youve been alive. I dont like ANY of the occupants of the Presidency during my lifetime. the last few most especially. If voting actually accomplished something theyd have made it illegal a long time ago. DEM-REP is a false choice. Both parties get money from the same sources and support the agenda of the oligarchs whove bought and paid for congress. DEM-REP are mere warring factions within the larger CORPORATE Party whos machinations give the proles (thats you) the appearance of choice where none exists. But hey, your high school taught you that the other school/team was the enemy and should be hated and defeated quite well, obviously, so youd act the same after high school. So tell us again how great your life is. /sarcasm Really? I thought some were too ignorant to understand he wasnt eligible. Only the kool-aid drinking sheeple think he is an America loving American instead of a Communist Muslim America hater!! True. MR. (intentional Obama is a socialist, anti-Constitution, anti-Christian, anti-Semitic, racist Muslim usurper. Do you imagine I was implying otherwise? so did the republicans. whats their excuse? And notice, The Donald is the ONLY one bringing it up then, and now. You are very sick. I am not a liberal but a radical independent. Please keep your insults to yourself. You are an insult. He is the guy that the Hans terrorist shot his head of who ratted everyone out in die hard, stupid stupid stupid It is if you believe public buildings are the property of the public and not a disected official government. Carrying loaded guns is the right of every citizen in this country and if your afraid to walk around with any one and everyone including the clinically insane that exercises that right there are several socialistic dictatorships in the world that dont allow it of their citizens North Korea being a good case in point. Find you a slow boat and get there. There is a reason we are refered to as the Land of the free and brave. And yes perhaps even insanely brave. Extremist is a word that would very accurately define the writers of our Declaration of Independence to King George, that expressly states that there are and will forever be times, events, and conditions that warrant the citizenry to take up arms, not merely guns, against their governments. There is a boat load of anti-fed sentiment out there right now, and it has the right to be there and to be expressed freely. That right is not garanteed by the constitution, it is rather an inalienable right granted by our creator to every human being according to the founding documents, and one of several enumerated in the constitution and the bill of rights. Very well said, Tim. Well done! Do you believe that criminals released from prison and those adjudged by a court as mentally ill should have the right to carry guns? The white to carry guns We await the insightful response from Entricky rhetorical, he who seems to believe that the masonic caughts are not demonical. What are you trying to say? Is it that only whites should be allowed to own guns? Also, who is Entricky and when was the topic of of Masonic caughts, whatever they are, brought up? As for the 2nd Amendment, Ill refer you to Justice Joseph Story, appointed to the SCOTUS by Pres. Madison, said. The right of the citizens to keep and bear arms has justly been considered, as the palladium of the liberties of the republic; since it offers a strong moral check against usurpation and arbitrary power of the rulers; and will generally, even if these are successful in the first instance, enable the people to resist and triumph over them. Are you erudite enough to understand what Justice Story meant? Areudite enough, hahahahah. Or, as Zuma would have it, heheheheh. Heh. As the Gaelic Gypsy Eagle wit escapes thee, let Padraigin assist hand over twist, play on words be the thing that many a bell rings, right, white, as pale be the target of the Cabal that assails, the mentally unfree masons in lodges and courts try the issues, The Truth doth never pay their dues, psycholotrists scamming via DSM disease hooks, mentally ill we all be in their crooked books, and I suggest start with the criminals in smart suits that White Houses infest, all the amendments together shant describe it best, guillotines from dawn to dusk, once done, then the Justice Story can take a rest. Erudite enough, hahahah, indeed, Scotus, and even Irish, to be sure. Ah, however, as you can guess from mi nombre ich nicht sprechen glisch Now, down to plain good old fashioned American style English, dare you answer my questions? For whom do you think the 2nd Amendment was written for? And do you conjure that all judges are Masons? Who is Entricky and when did he bring up the subject of Masons? Two more things, are you for a French style Revolution and are you a proud demonic Jacobin, as thats what they were? Are they less mentally ill than those running a nation and giving guns to the insane called ISIS? Thats a false analogy and you know it, or should. However, those giving weapons to ISIS, or al Qaeda, are traitors as defined by Article 3, Section 3, Clause 1 of the Constitution and should be removed from office by the proper constitutional procedures and then indicted, tried, and if found guilty given the appropriate sentence for high treason. Furthermore, I dont believe what Mr (intentional) Obama et. al, are doing is the result of insanity, incompetence, or stupidity. I believe its due to an INTENTIONAL effort to effort to weaken the USA so they can change it to the USSA. Its all being done according to the Saul Alinsky and Cloward-Piven plans. Short answer, yes if they are deemed safe enough to reenter society. If you define criminal as one who breaks a law, then not wearing a seat belt in some states could cost a citizen his or her sidearm. if you further specify violent criminals then how violent becomes the question. If a person has committed a violent crime, murder, rape etc. I really dont think they should be released, I believe in capitol punishment. And I have no problem with stoning someone for adultery either if adjucated guilty by a jury of their peers. I realize this does not meet well with the modern mindset, and is not the current law in this country. Many religions however still teach the precepts. One of my papers in college was entitled Why Psychology is not a legitimate science . And that gets at the final condition some would give that would / should prevent otherwise free people from carrying a weapon. A criminal is someone whos mental process is unstable and has been identified as such by evidentiary observation of his or her behavior. The other way we determine what is happening in the mind or psych of an individual is what comes from them in some form of communication, verbal, written, sign language. All of which have an interpretational weakness and so I say are not at all an exact science. You set up false premises. Its pure sophistry. But tell me, was Jesus in John 8 wrong in not insisting the prostitute be stoned according to your standards? Would you like to be among those stoning sinners? Or would you be like Saul in Acts 22 who was a coat holder while Stephen was stoned? However, name just one instance where someone not wearing a seat belt has been denied their right to own a gun, just one. However, just what is your standard? Is it the New Testament or the Old? Are you a Dominionist? Or are you even an anarchist. You seem to be all over the place so its hard to tell. You want to stone adulterers but let mentally ill people and dangerous criminals run around with guns. Would you say all things are relative like many on the far Left do? Is that how you view what is mentally ill behavior? By the way, arent sexual aberrations mere metal peculiarities as many liberals believe at worst, or just lifestyle choices at best? Ive never believed psychology is an exact science either. As a matter of fact, its more of an art. But by your standards, if I believed a person was truly irrational and was going to kill me and my family, would I be justified in killing him first? Or should I wait until he kills me or someone in my family and then wait for the State to seek justice for me? By the way, Ive been told that by a police officer. You also repeat the Leftist fable that Europeans slaughtered, i.e., actively killed through force, most of the Native Americans. However, thats been disproven. Most, even north of the Rio Grande, were killed off by epidemics from diseases brought over from Europe and Africa. Between 1492 and about 1620 its estimated 70 to 90% of Native Americans were killed by epidemics. Even later, many communities were also wiped out by diseases. As for your last sentence, I believe only people who arent all there would advocate that. Thats why I think liberalism is a mental disorder. We dont live in a Marxist nirvana yet, and we never will. Intentionally exposing them to disease is murder, splitting hairs on that subject is silly. A domestic policy encouraging those on the frontier to settle on Native land (because all the elite already own all the land east of Appalachian Mts.), then they are attacked by Natives for breaking treaty. Then the militia or army goes to take retribution after they demonize the Natives. The .01% can fill everyones minds with lies (printed by the oppressors and taught as fact to all sheep),that you seem to buy a face value. Saying that the Spaniards and their African slaves brought over diseases that even they didnt know how were transmitted IS HARDLY splitting hairs. The Europeans came from what was described as a cesspool of diseases not only from Europe but also Africa and Asia. The Native Americans had no immunity from such diseases. Will you next accuse the Muslims and Asians of committing murder for introducing the Black Plague to Europe? Or was that OK because the victims were Caucasian Europeans? So go back to your progressive friends and learn how to better tell tall tales. Youre not very good at it. Your not very good operating with logic in mind. Next youll try to convince me HIV came from people banging monkeys. I dont have progressive friendsand I also dont fit into any catagory l, like you the history apologist. The policies of the U.S., and its constant breaking of treaties shows their intention towards natives. Plausible deniability is the tool you are employing, grouped with his story your ego is sustained. As much as I love America Lincoln was not a patriot of America nor a defender of the founding fathers, states rights or the Constitution. He had over 37 thousand US Citizens arrested without the right of Habeas Corpus for those citizens who were held in prison against their will. In some states he had the city and state councils arrested as to prevent those states from seceding from the union which was their legal right. It was freely taught at the US War academy before the civil War that secession was the right of every state in the Union. LINCOLN was a traitor to this country. The north won the war therefore they are the Victors and can do and write what they wish but ii is a proven lie. Lincoln also stated in letters. If I could preserve the union by freeing all slaves I would do it. If I could preserve the union by freeing none of the slaves I would do it. If I could preserve the union by freeing some slaves and not others, I would also do that. I believe your insight has merit. But I still agree with him on many issues. Apparently he believed the current contest or civil war to be Gods will. I still question how he got to that perspective. For anyone who would believe in an imaginary guy in the sky the leap wouldnt be too far. Bill Ayers is one of you liberals, but what he did was ok, right? Obama zombie! Like I asked KayO, did Dale say or imply any such thing? Lets stick to the facts. Dale was speaking about, inaccurately, Federal oversight of federal lands, a serious issue considering its and other alphabet soup agencies numerous criminal and unconstitutional actions. Was the Alamo pro freedom? It was not. Texas rebelled against Mexico because Mexico had outlawed slavery. So Texas sought independence to become a slave state. By the Civil War, slaves were 1/3 of the population. The freedom to deprive others of their freedom is NOT pro freedom. Ill bet you think Lincoln was democrat. In 1814, we chased the bloody British to the town of New Orleans! For our freedom! Having loaded guns is guaranteed by the US Constitution. If occupying public buildings is a terrorist act, then every student who ever did a sit in at a Public University is guilty of terrorism too. Occupying a vacant public building, a symbol of repressive government policy, with or without guns, none of which were used, to many is an act of tossing tea overboard to protest unfair taxes. By the by, who really owns a government building? I didnt say it was a terrorist act, so you are guilty of the fallacy of a straw man argument. I participated in many student acts of civil disobedience as well as with Dr. ing. We were never armed. Armed breaking and entry is punishable by 5 yrs in prison plus very stupid. Government buildings are owned by the public, and this one was administered by the BLM. Police cars are also government property but do you think that gives you the right to take one? Puleeze! What was accomplished? Have you no respect for the environment and the rights of native Americans? As a conservative constitutionalist I cant believe youre making those arguments. Theres a big difference legally between breaking into a government building and taking it over and a non-violent sit-in (some were violent). As for who owns a government building, get real. The government does in the name of the people. The BIG problem is that the government is misusing and abusing property it holds for the people. It, both federal and local, also is taking property it has no real authority to take. Consider Kelo vs. New London. Would you mind telling Obamas buddy, Bill Ayers, that its poor form to blow up public buildings and then pretend nothing wrong was done? You are deceived. Did Dale claim that? If so, please reference such a remark. As conservatives its important for us to not behave like progressives resort to innuendos, canards, and prevarications. Of course now its the wolves, Ayers, Dorhn, and the like, whore guarding the hen house, American patriots and their families. I was surprised Mr. (intentional) Obama didnt nominate Ayers for some high position. I responded to this particular comment by Dale: Thats a non-secuitur. Your comment falls flat. It stands. Your affirmation is not necessary Then please explain what buildings the protester blew up or what people they murdered like Ayers and Dorhn did. I agree breaking into buildings under such circumstances in itself is a crime and doing so with weapons compounds it. Saying one has a right to do so as the building belongs to the people is of course no defense except to extreme right and left wing agitators. But agian, the Oregon protestors didnt blow up building or kill anyone. So your comment tell(ing) Obamas buddy, Bill Ayers, that its poor form to blow up public buildings and then pretend nothing wrong was done is a non-sequitur, if you understand the term non-sequitur. So youll get no affirmation of your comment from me even if your ego needs it. Dont refer to me as an agitator. That is agitation. My point was made. Were done. Go ahead and run away from the discussion as youre unable to defend your point. I cant run from a debate when Im not even reading 90% of what youre writing. Im bored. I made my point and it stands. Deal with it. So, to be clear, Im ignoring you for benefit of time on my part. Keep writing if you wish, boy now I will read 0% and will not respond at all. You can agitate to the screen. Thats a lame excuse but par for a demagogic caitiff. This is for others to see what you are. What I am is someone calls out hypocrisy, so its fine with me that others see. You wrote, Keep writing if you wish, boy now I will read 0% and will not respond at all. Was that hypocrisy or prevarication? I didnt mention is last time, but now I will. Are you another progressive who is a;so a racist who calls minorities who stand up to types like you boy? The truth is youre a caitiff. You refused to explain what buildings the protesters blew up or what people they murdered like Ayers and Dorhn did. Why is that? Thats not a good feeling when someone doesnt even find you memorable, is it? I see you still, too much of a caitiff to answer the questions or admit youre a racist. It is impossible to associate criticism of Bill Ayers blowing up public property with racism. What questions? Im really not reading most of your comments because you wandered too far off the reservation. Oh, and Im part Native American, so you dont get to call me a racist for using the word reservation. Breaking into a public forum full of intelligent commenters loaded with only your television wisdom is hardly helping your credibility. I have a world class education in political science. The criminals were armed and did break in. As for TV, speak for yourself. LOL! So do the educated idiots who are trying to turn this country into a USSR. Dont you know the only land the Government is supposed to own is 10 square miles around the Capital and land for military bases. Public lands are supposed to be for Public use but our Government has other plans for that land and wants the ranchers off all the land period. It isnt the ranchers doing wrong its the crooked Government! Everyone has a breaking point. In times like these. Read Article 1 Section 8 of the Constitution. What does Clause 17 mean? I wouldnt go after the bad guys with an unloaded weapon. What are you stupid? Pro-freedom? Good thing American Patriots were Conservative Adults instead of petulant arrogant children that crave marxist-utopia. Breaking in Fail Ruff is hardly pro-human: But then someones gotta do it. Niether is breaking into citizens homes with SWAT. Really the 2nd A says you can carry arms, public being the key word,were these people not members of the public? They werent keeping anyone out. They werent marching around pointing guns. They did NOTHING illegal. On the contrary, the federal government has been doing EVERYTHING illegal to chase ranchers out of Oregon for decades. The Hammonds were the last ones (like the Bundys are in Nevada) so the feds started playing very dirty (as they did with the Bundys). There is a long laundry list of illegal acts performed by the various federal agencies involved, but the jackbooted feds and their local state puppets refuse to do anything about it. So, do some research, learn something if you have a brain left after the apparent indoctrination youve been submitted to, and then get back to us. Breaking and entering while armed is a crime, punishable by up to 5 yrs. They also used government vehicles, another crime, and when authorities told them to leave, they refused another crime. The Feds allow ranchers to use public lands at about 80% lower cost than private lands, but they are required to obey rules and regulations. They are expected to respect native burial grounds, not start fires, and pay their fees. I suggest you do some research with what brainwashed tissue you have left!lol I suggest you start by looking up the crime of breaking and entering with a firearm, which you claim not illegal. I suggest you stop using propaganda cliches like jackbooted. I think will find it was the ranchers who had the boots and came with loaded weapons and broke into a building. You ignore the fact that its illegal for the federal government to own the land in question. Im still not convinced they broke into any buildings, and if they did why were they not charged with that crime? Or grand theft auto, or some other crime of which you speak? The Hammonds requested and were given permission to start the prescribed burns (which even the feds did on occasion). The Hammonds were also tried and convicted twice in federal court for the same crime, which is in itself a crime. Not a single person arrested is guilty of violating 18 USC S. 372 as not a single federal officer was legally attempting to discharge their duties, nor were they inhibited from doing so by anyone. In fact, Cliven Bundy was illegally arrested, and the feds know this, or they would have tried it in Nevada (they knew where he was), but because the local authorities in Nevada were not complicit with the feds, (in fact, they were thrown out of Nevada in April 2014) they didnt dare try it. Instead they picked a state and city they could control. Its time people like you wake up, read and understand the Constitution, and realize that this government is removing YOUR rights at an ever faster pace. Im afraid that by the time you do, they will be after you personally, and there will be nobody left to stand up and fight, as you are not standing up now for them. But being a veteran, a Christian, and believing in the constitution is considered domestic terrorism. Do you believe that they are all terrorists? Its not. I cant agree with a false statement. You got to be the dumbest american Ive ever heard get educated and stop listening to the fake news ALL NEWS I dismiss people who have only insults and nothing to contribute as trolls. This is the root of the problem people dont think it can happen, so they become complacent and apathetic. Then one day it actually happens to them and they say Someone do something! How could this happen?! I never thought it could! Hey, theyre not allowed to do that .. are they? Famous last words of the sheep. IT Cant Happen Here, Sinclair Lewis, pub 1936 the american bird has morphed from the eagle to the ostrich To the Gooney This group of radicals have been planning this since Bill Ayers was bombing buildings with the weather underground! ..looking for potential legal improvements and enhancements to better combat threats. Watch the films Agenda Grinding America Down and Agenda 2 True, Kay. It took me a while to get through the realization at first. I was very depressed if im going to be honest. My fear is for my children. I dont care what happens to me. I have always been a fighter since a child against injustice. Punch out the bullies at school, that type of thing! Now, I fight for freedom and the love for my children. We ALL have that common thread running through us. We are all in this together, regardless of beliefs and or religion or whatever. You are there and I am here but, we stand together or we fall. God stand with us God bless you and your family. He is with us, and the evil is being exposed. If you have not seen the films, please do. I put off watching and regret it. Share with all. Thanks kay. x Do not wonder why our country is taking in all these muslims. I think the government is setting us up for a war. I think they want to destroy America as we know it. We are a christian country, but i think they will arm the muslims. Their is military They are using muslims to usher in totalitarianism. The Muslims don t have a clue. Once all is in place, they will extinguish all opposition, including the Muslims. Government creates the chaos so people will need them to fix it. Creating a society of eunuchs. thats what marxists-communists do best. Its a play on the ignorance of the stupid Americans! Fluoride in water and chemtrailssoften the brain; make people susceptible to most anything and everything since 1960 Read Tomato Bubble. WWII propaganda is finished in 2020. Youre finished. Keep in mind that true history is no longer taught in our schools and universities Political dissident = domestic terrorist is what they are selling. Those FEMA prisons are ready for occupation, and they cant Thats right, mate! Gee these plans have been a long time in the making! Im not sure people like us will see them coming either. It will be sudden I think. They already know who we are. Thats why they have allowed us this platform; to identify us. But our numbers are increasing heaps in last 12 months so I would think they might start moving on this on a large scale sooner than later. Your thoughts? They will need an impidous to start detaining people on a large scale, something to try and sell the idea that your neighbor is your enemy and everyone should be on the lookout. Im guessing a falsey using some sort of fake militia uprising. Personally, my phone is my only connection to the truth, and my it is thru my work (not in my name). People need to keep their eyes open ( if they can pull away from t.v. internet) for suspicious government activity, and be sure to stand up for your individual rights. Yeah I was thinking along those lines too. Its not beyond them to attempt some kind of shock and awe either. Crashing the financial system would likely have that effect, then hit us with a cluster bomb of reforms that will basically end life as we know it. People like us are a major threat. We might be rounded up in the panic. Hey, its what i would do anyway Big subject Brett. Just one observation, they will need to silence us. Our rebellion is based on Information, Facts and True History, its not a religion or faith so they must not let us be heard hence there either wont be any trials or they will be done in secret. The Eskimos cant afford any more holocaust denial trials for instance because they show how ridiculous the story really is. I think it will likely reach a point where they wont give a rats about what seems ridiculous. History and everything else people like us know will mean very little to them. This will come as a massive shock to the world and their reality is going to be turned upside down. It will be too late for those people to do anything. I posted just above you that a shock and awe may be the only way forward for them at some stage. The scene is setting up for that in a way I agree. Im trying to imagine what they might do. It will probably seem obvious in retrospect Jade Helm too over Texas! We should all get our guns and go to Texas and take it back. Hell,lett give it back to Mexico since they wont let us have slaves anymore! /S Dale ruff Troll Dale Ruff, satirist. Dale ruff, pathetic brain dead commy enabler. beefydog is a 3d rate troll. The entire government are evil treasonous criminals. The day of the next false flag using the nuke they stole in 2007 and blamed on Iran, America will be destroyed by Russia, China and the SCO. This is the war of Armageddon and you can know it is now because of Planet X and the toxic chemtrails that hide it every day. Planet X will end the war when it rips the earth apart again but 90% of Americans will be dead already. All planned by your evil government. The true danger is with the stakeholders, the agents, govt, are being used for their protection. Supporting Terrorist groups is worth 20 years?.How many would aka Barry and his beloved moslem brotherhood get? Militias are the protectors of our sovereign Constitution against the TYRANNY of this criminal enterprise government, This filthy administration is trying to silence true Patriots and peaceful resisters! But this foul obama administration has been exposed for the totalitarian dictatorship it is and we will not be silenced! Just 4 patriots in an outside camp were surrounded by 20,000 militants FBI traitors pointing high powered assault weapons at them, and corporate French mercenaries assisting in this fetid land grab, and foreign para-military creeps all committing acts of treason against the American people, including many violations of the Constitution such as the doctrine of Posse Comitatus, and Article IV Section 3, cl 2 and Article 1 Section 8 cl 17. This dictatorship over which obama-the-foreign-usurper reigns has declared war on the American people and there should be many tens of thousands of us standing with the brave patriots in Oregon to force the FBI to leave. In Chile, a few blocks from cheering crowds of Olympic Game observers, Dissidents or political opponents of the current corrupt regime screamed for help behind bars after being rounded up. Babies of pregnant mothers were adopted out, as these mothers all met their end. Years later, some scraps of acknowledgment were made as grandparents searched for these children. The human family tends to repeat the same scenarios. In todays world, Americans are now afraid to use their rights to free speech, and identification is made via Facebook and articles such as these. George Carlin would have been one of the dissidents. Abe Lincoln, LaVoy Finnicum, Ron Paul. Anyone that speaks the truth is game for making an example to others when evil is allowed to govern. Ever noticed what happens to those that do speak up or threaten the agenda, Pamela? Assasination, suicide (helped), illness, or the latest coward act, which is threaten your family. Even those that speak out about vaccinations and other things that threaten profits go missing. Not sure if correct but, I heard over 20 naturopaths went missing, murdered or suddenly died last year alone. They were helping people with cancer and most of their patients recovered fully! This is not new info I know, but its risky to stick your neck out above the crowd; certainly for those that have loved ones to consider. However, I think a tipping point is approaching which will result in many people rising up as one. These events may have an impact and eventually there will be no other choice for any of us to either fight for our freedom or surrender to slavery. All of us will be faced with this decision and, its one that many of us here on these threads have already made. For me? I already know my fate as all of us truthers here should. I dont fear death, again, as no one here should. It awaits us all at some point so it may as well come on our terms. God Bless, friends I had a friend that said if you stick your head above the crowd, you can expect to get hit by the tomatoes. Everything you say is documented, including the Nagalase found in vaccines that shuts down the immune system, for which the Naturopathic doctors investigated and were killed for. Bankers. Were they used to report who had which sums of money so they could be eliminated in the redistribution of wealth (to the thugs) plan? Is that why all those Bankers were suicided, or is it deeper, like a coming economic meltdown? Money doesnt buy happiness or self respect. The Osama Bin Laden crew that went down in the old helicopter, the Benghazi stand-down assassination. Everyone that worked for Clinton that knew too much, including his Elementary School friends. 9-11 victims: adults. Even the Daycare kids. And the responders dying of Cancer because of the explosives used to take it down, to justify war and shape plans of a few Knotheads. The country is still operating with FBI and CIA, CDC and FDA collecting a paycheck for their collusion until some of them notice they are getting replaced by foreign mercenaries without feelings for the American people. Warmongering. For what? Failed ideas of Communism and Socialism, One Worlders, Crony Capitalism. Everybody selling out, thinking they will be safe. We all have to leave this planet. Its best to make our lives count. In the protection for all people. If the Revolutionary War soldiers and Founding Fathers didnt speak up regardless of threats and financial ruin, where would we be? They gave us a Constitution, based on their experience with Great Britain. Progress. Not intended for entitlement to invade other countries, veiled in Our God justifies this behavior. The US is in ruins for many reasons. Fear vs. Love. Selfishness. Laziness. Apathy. Abused kids growing up with no trust in humanity, and destroyed sexual identity and gender identity patterns. Yet there are many that make choices daily for the good of all. (Im not talking Bill Gates vaccination/population control model.) My fate is being mortal. Ive already had cancer, and now Lyme Disease which is an epidemic being used to whittle the populace down. Watch the State Congressional bills for the upcoming fight: Forced vaccinations for all. Not many actually read, or theyd know Dr. Mouldens work showing the toxins and foreign proteins in any vaccination opens the gate for a flooding of white blood cells fighting the sudden inflammation, which block oxygen-carrying red blood cells from reaching capillaries. In the brain it means strokes, damage and disease and sometimes SIDS. Look at the assymetry of the eyes on before and after pictures and the drooping mouths of kids with Leukemia, etc.. Health care: Quality Metrics which mean mental health evaluations and half a dozen other unnecessary medical tests and procedures will help thin the herd further. Already happening to the unaware. So, why do we write and talk among ourselves? Humans tend to have similar problems throughout history. Hazards and hope. Education is an important thing. Sometimes that means sacrifice. Look at LaVoy Finnicum. PS. Was it the Olympics in Chile or the Soccer games in the stadium? Argentina went through the same thing. No matter. Its learning from our mistakes. Good honest leaders. I know who my Cabinet members would be. From all parties. PSS: Thomas Paine: The world is my country, and to do good is my religion. Wonderful post, Pamela. You have certainly had your fair share by the sounds of it. You are also a wise person. I wish you a full recovery with your illness; just dont trust our medical system. But, I dont need to tell you that! Cheers. For now all we could do is to vote,Cruz, Rubio,or Trump.If we keep losing our constitutional rites ,we will be a communist country. An establishment candidate wether, socialist,or progresive.(Bernie , Hillary) will only get us there even faster. Definition of Domestic Extremist: anyone who disagrees with the Progressive takeover and destruction of the US. How bout we just close our borders to keep Obamas Muslim brothers out? So the DOJ declares war on the American people, while the Muslim Mullah makes arrangements to bring in another million or so Muslims. Sounds like the opening chords of civil war. Lord protect America from Obama and his Muslim program If things were the way they should be then the government would be going after the Muslims who are trying to kill us. Instead it wants to target the American people. Will they go after the terrorist in the WH?????????????????? You cant get enough people together to do anything about the government breaking the laws over and over without someone to lead the charge and that person would have to be an outspoken movie star sports figure or even a politician that could also organize such an event and all the little things that happen are just not big enough of a deal to them to want to. Lets start with the terror groups BLM and the black panthers. What other groups in recent years have burned down US cities? What you going to do when 100 million freedom fighters come for you federal scumbags, good to see you are in fear of us you aint seen nothing yet. the only domestic terrorists and extremests are the govt.aka obama,clinton,and all liberals destroying america. and political correctness is at the head of it all and who, started that dip-shittery?the left. you got that right. I suppose the Tea Party is on their list of terrorists.or those who fly the Confederate flag.. y correct. if you are not a nescient lefty, or a moslem, its the list for you. I guess I am on the list since I am a Tea party terrorist and card carrying NRA member and I fly the COnfederate battle flag. If you want to find the largest group of Domestic Terrorists start with the White House and work down through all the alphabet agencies (private corporations) especially the FBI CIA. Of course, the Freedom Fighters will be the targets. They are the primary concern, of the DOJ. Thank goodness America has no back bone to get rid of the Criminals in the Whitehouse. Here it comes. This government had become the Extremeist and is in the throws of Treason to American citizens. Listen up Lynch and the rest of you in Washington. You work for the People. We make the laws Governed by this Constitution. Now you are the threatening entity to America not its citizens. You are the ones breaking the laws of the Constitution. You think we are going to fall for your lies and propaganda because that is the crap your shoveling around here. The ones going to prison will be You. For Treason Are they going to arrest themselves? As far as I can see they are the only domestic extremist terrorists. Patriotism may be fought by the Feds in many ways because Patriots dont flow with the Feds way of thinking in most waysthe current Feds is not the Feds of yesteryear when we were We The Peopleits a bunch of corrupt greedy peoples out for their own gainVOTE FOR TRUMP IN 2016 2020 AS HE IS THE ONLY ONE WHO TRULY CAN WILL GET AMERICA BACK ON TRACK..OORAH! Hope you all are prepared for what must happen now! Armed Revolution is the ONLY Solution! WE, THE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN BETRAYED! WE, THE PEOPLE STAND ALONE! come on down, time to get rid of you.. we are ready Domestic extremists? I guess the whole demonratic party will have to be arrested! Domestic Extremist =American willing to stand up for their Rights.Come get some! They are already coming after American Patriots. Look what happened in Oregon. We have no freedoms in America anymore, they think they are above the law and in charge. We formed this government and now they are turning on us. They no longer work for us, but attack us and slaughter us. Just one executed in plain sight with hand in air. How much more will the American people take? Good question. I for one think if we dont start changing who is running our Country for the lower levels of government and quick, we will be in a heap of trouble soon. The traitors infesting our government think that they are instilling fear terror into Innocent, Law Abiding Patriotic Americans, but they are WRONG! All they have succeeded in accomplishing is to fill every Constitutional American Patriot with a TERRIBLE RESOLVE! [In June 2014, former Attorney General Eric Holder stated the Domestic Terrorism Executive Committee would work to eliminate dangers from violent individuals who may be motivated by anti-government or RACIST views.] This will further amend our 1st Amendment right to free speech. These Marxists will use this, to stop our fight against Islamic extremists, or terrorists.They will not let us utter a word about extreme Blacks, like the Black Panthers, or Black Lives Matter. They will be PROTECTED, We will be further weighed down by Political Correctness, to the point that we will not be able to express our views. (Walk on eggshells, like living with a narcissist) This must be stopped! Dont count on all the empty promises of Trump, Cruz, Bush, or Rubio. Count on a man who is TOTALLY against political correctnessDr. Ben Carson! They will also use this, to further erode our 2nd amendment rights! They that can give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty, nor safety. ~ Benjamin Franklin I hope you understand Ben Franklins statement, above. We have to stop this, from going further! We will not be able to fight this corrupt government, if we let this corrupt DOJ go ahead, with this UN agenda! There are plenty of ways ..digitallyfor the US Government to keep track of what they consider domestic terrorists. They do not mean ISISthey mean ANY Citizen Patriot! Anyone who will stand up to Political Correctness! Is that what you want? Are you going to let your CONgress pass a law giving MORE people, Special Rights? Or are you going to tell them EQUAL rights, under the Constitution? Dont let them yank your Constitution out from under you! And do not ask for a Convention of the States! The corrupt Marxists will make sure they change our Constitution to what THEY want! Soros WANTS a Convention of the States! Do you? Our Constitution is just fine! We just need a leader who will FOLLOW the Constitution to the letter! We obviously, do not have that leader now! Our CONgress are not leaders, either. They are go along to get along! Including Cruz and Rubio! They have gone along, to get along, on many laws. What are YOU going to do about it? So the Feds are finally going after sharpton, Hillary, and all the other domestic terrorists? More information to help get Patriots out of jails, (see numbers 1-15 below) For all of the people, governments, companies, BAR attorneys etc There are too many people whom completely misunderstand the Constitutional laws and whom those laws have jurisdiction over to implement and carry out regulations and enforcements of laws, rules, codes, statutes, etc I will try to be very clear as to not confuse you.. 1. Constitutions of the governments only regulate governments! And those governments are of the sovereign states, or now STATES INC which are monopoly forms of government corporations, acting under the illusion of and as sovereign states, manipulating people, under UCC contract law entrapments, as EMPIRE builders of global community laws or of the lawful Federal U.S.A. or now US INC corporation acting as the lawful Republic of the U.S. A. But indeed is a Conglomerate acting OVER the states with bribes of federal moneyworking with and under UCC contract law entrapments, as a GLOBAL EMPIRE builders of global community law enforcements 2. For those that claim US Constitution Article 4 section 3 somehow gives FEDS the authority to take land as they want to for bird refuges or hoot owls or horn toads, lizards or Federal Parks, national parks etc you are completely wrong.. as you failed to read and understand what the constitution CLEARY states that those lands can be: U.S.A. Constitution Article 1 Section 8 clause (paragraph) 16-17 last 2 paragraphs To exercise (implement or imply) exclusive (no more and no less) in all cases whatsoever that are in the District of Columbia or Washington DC of 10 square miles.. taken from the immediate surrounding states (Virginia, etc..) to become the seat of Federal Government of the United States of America and to pay those states for such landas long as their legislators agree to the 10 mile purchasefor the construction of forts, arsenals, dockyards and other buildings(as it is along the river it needs dockyards) And to make all laws that shall be necessary and PROPER for carrying into execution (making regulations, and or enforcing such regulations on this 10 square mile land).. the foregoing Powers allowed by the constitution in the Governments of the United States ( but not in the states, or STATES INC) and, or any of the Departments or officers thereof (inside the 3 branches of the USA governments). 3. At NO TIME, does the constitution give powers to the Federal Governments or State governments to remove, infringe, alter, etc.. the rights and freedoms of the people PERIOD they only have jurisdictions to regulate themselves! And the Feds cannot regulate anyone except the feds!!! But have a duty, to make sure that all states have a republic form of Government (USA Constitution, Article 4 section 4) We now have EMPIRE Building global community world banker governments in most every city, town and STATE INC in the USAAll are unlawfully suppressing the peoples rights with regulations, licenses to drive non commercial vehicles infringing on the right to travel, income taxes for non commercial people under color of Contract laws, property taxes for private land and homes under color of TITLES, registrations on vehicles, and TITLES on vehicles that make your vehicle contracted to obey unconstitutional commercial codes of the STATE as well as to tax every year (being taxed for the same purchase, over and over and over and over again) being told we do not have the right to bear arms and that governments can infringe upon those rights by background checks (gun registrations), waiting periods, cannot carry unless you have a license (more registrations), cannot buy or sell unless you register for a license and do background checks (more registrations)All are 100% infringing on the right to bear arms A third grader can clearly see that fact, etc The Feds can NOT take land from states they can take land that are NOT states and claim them as territories. and then rule those territories as they would Washington DC.. that is.. until those territories become states then the states remove all federal rule and the State governments are established to protect the rights of the people at a local level The governments unlawfully took land (mostly) in the Western States as they bargained for statehood such as Utah, the feds unlawfully took land because the Mormons at that time had plural marriages this unlawfully (under color of law and by extortion, theft and fraud) regulated religious beliefs in direct violations of the Constitution! Well documented years later in the recent Gay marriage ruling in the Supreme Court states that governments have not the right to regulate who can get married to whom and all rights belong to all people equally unlawful to bargain for statehood when the constitution clearly defines the lands the feds can own (10 square miles in DC) 4. Bird refuges, and protected areas for spotted owls, lizards, toads, turtles, wolves, etc.. can be made, but must be State land, as the feds can only own 10 square miles of DC area as all the rest of the USA mainland are States and only this type of refuge or notice to protect wildlife, etc is ok, if the state legislators have an OK with the county rulers to use such land for such purposes BUT they cannot limit the use of such lands from the people using it they can make aware to the people that while they are camping, or riding their ATVs or horses or motorcycles, etc to be mindful of protected species and not to hunt or harm them.. But they cannot say: We close this land to the people to protect it.. or because we cant have a ranger there to observe etc all lands are 24/7 available for public use!!! As when cattle or sheep cannot graze down the grasses, forest fires end up spreading very fast and in fact end up KILLING the protected animals by smoke or barbeque these protected species are being burned by fires, that could have been limited if properly grazed by cattle or sheep and or allowed to properly log for timber 5. And that is why Bundy and Patriots did and could lawfully camp out at a bird refuge not being used by birds or governments due to winter conditions and then travel peacefully into towns 30 miles away or more to educate townsfolk on constitutional issuesof law and as 100s of people came and went from the bird refuge including press from around the world Bundy and Patriots did not inhibit ANYONE from doing their work or using the bird refuge when they were there.. ONLY after the feds had an illegal roadblock (county land not federal land) stopping peaceful protestors (whom are lawfully and should be armedfor protection when out in the world today) from traveling upon such highway as they paid the taxes to travel upon the highway with every gallon of fuel they buy (about 50 cents a gallon in taxes) not needing permission to travel and can not be lawfully stopped by anyone to travel as the Feds lack of jurisdiction (along way from Washington DC).. And because the Sheriff of that county had the lack of testicles to stop the feds unlawful military occupation, unlawful traffic stop.. the Feds MURDERED an innocent man, who lawfully used guns (but had none on him at the time see Shall not be infringed the right to bear arms) . And Cliven Bundy was made a criminal under color of law by the same tactics 1st an armed government force of military people called the BLM and others threatened to harm peaceful protestors on their own land and tried to take private property without due process of common law (as is law by Constitutional law not global community administrative laws that were claimed to have ruled for the FEDS) And at that time Bundy had every right to bear arms to defend himself and his propertyThe local sheriff agreed with Bundy and the Feds had to leave. But When Bundy left the protection of the Sheriff of his county.. And took an airplane where you could not bear arms for protection, into an airport surrounded by FEDSHe was a sitting duck for unlawful Federal persecution under color of laws illegally made and enforced due to lands that cannot be lawfully owned by the FEDS within sovereign states! Simple as that is the feds and BAR attorneys twist it around to make innocent Patriots look like militant terrorists! LIES 6. There is no such thing as a supremacy clause that gives the Feds any control over anything except making money, buildings forts and arsenals inside the Washington DC 10 Square miles, upon the high seas, import and export taxes, IRS for internal revenue service of INTERNAL 3 branches of governments operations(not over the people)..to stop one state from taxing another state for goods crossing state lines (that is the EXTENT OF the feds ability on interstate commerce) the feds cannot regulate any interstate commerce that is not being unlawfully taxed for crossing state boarders! The Feds, can only stop states from regulating goods crossing boardersor taxing it as it crosses states from another states. Bottom line.. 7. Bundy and Patriots wanted to make aware to the people, how governments are doing whatever they want, to anyone they want without any justice from the people to gain resolve over governments wrong doings The courts will not allow the people to sew the governments for damages, and throw out 1,000s of cases a year to protect the corporate governments bank rolls. ..So without a way to get the governments for justice in the courts.. the Bundy crew went to a faraway place, (bird refuge) that no one was using, to make a statement!!!! The press blew it up out of proportion and claimed them as armed militants occupying land The Feds and STATE INC governor for profits do not like people who declare their rights and expose the secretes that they are governing the people unlawfully so their duty to their bankrolls is to shut down these protestors and kill them if they have to.. 8. People with guns camping in the forest are NOT ARMED militants occupying anything.. until you come to them with armored vehicles and military SWAT teams to threaten their lives with guns and grenades and rockets and so forth.. Then it is the DUTY and right of those once peaceful armed campers to defend themselves And that is what we have today! 9. Governments want to kill, using military under color of law officers of the Feds and or STATES INC. people want to defend themselves from being killed. HOW TO FIX this problem that most BAR attorneys will not touch.. as it would remove allot of their ability to make millions of dollars in fees ================= 10. The current global governments FEAR this more than most all other things And will do all they can to put it down, to belittle it, to use propaganda to make people think that they are foolish to use or try it.. etc An example of this propaganda is what the media is calling that the Patriots want to set up a shadow Government.. is of course 100% wrong and visa versa When in fact, the Shadow Government is actually, the one we Patriots would be replacing with lawful constitutional Common law governments and using grand juries of the people to do so! This does not break any law.. it only magnifies the laws.. Anyone can press charges against any government company, agent, or private person, etc.. if the person was damaged by them or saw or witnessed damages done by them against others You simply call the sheriff or police officer and file charges ONLY it becomes more powerful, WHEN we use what is called a common law grand jury.. or simply put.. is set up by 3 or more people signing a claim against anyonejudge, sheriff, FBI, etc and sign it in front of a notary public present IDs and get it stamped with the notary seal. It is more powerful that way instead of calling the sheriff and filing a claim or report with the sheriff having 3 or more signatures on a notarized Instrument makes it a Common Law Grand Jury.. 11. Today in Utah ( and some other states) a Grand Jury of the STATE INC. consists of 3 judges, bought and paid for by the company STATE INC and they will not allow exposure of the STATE INC illegal laws, or enforcements of, or to sue the STATE INC for damages OR to go after the FEDS for operating without subject matter jurisdictionupon state, county land without the Sheriff first authorizing the aid of or go ahead of the federal agency to do their arresting outside the 10 square miles of DC!!!!! This is the law because the Sheriff is the highest ELECTED law officer in the NATION! All others are appointed by the CEOs of the EMPIRRE building corporation STATES INC or US INC. This Common law grand jury of 3 or more people, can print up and sign with a Notary, a Warrant for the indictment and arrest of those in the complaint And have a notice of service page that is signed with, stating whom was to be served. have a copy of each, for those who signed it. Then a copy for the people you are claiming crimes against and or serving, as they will have to be served a copy in hand at time of arrest. 12. The local law must obey and implement such a warrant/indictment or lose their office, due to breach of oath of office and or duty; and impeding an ongoing investigation of criminal actsetc. Make sure, that with this copy of this notary complaint, there must be a signed signature page of whom was all served this document complaintThen take that to the county attorneys office and county sheriff and serve it to them with a signed signature of receipt of it . Also do the same thing at State level Now all those whom murdered and committed violent actions to entice an armed conflict on peaceful demonstrators, Ambush plan of enticing acts of war any other crime you can think of that they committed do a thorough and exact accounting of all events And Especially operating unlawfully (under color of law) out of their jurisdictional reach according to Constitutional laws, to implement regulations on the people or on lands outside the 10 square miles of Washington DC. and then false arresting people under color of law, etc.. 13. Now you have a DOCUMENT OF RECORD (notarized by state notary). Served for the indictment and arrest of said criminals And on the warrant it must state that they are to be indicted and arrested within so many days (1 to max. of 10) or they will be served notice of being in breach of Oath of office, duty, and in interfering in ongoing investigations of crimes etc.., and have to resign their positions If they do not do so go after their Insurance BONDS attach them with claims for Breach of duty etcviolating the laws of the land.. The key here is to follow up on the 11th day if nothing has happened and then serve them a deficiency notice, for breach of oath of office for failing to diligently do their duty as officers for the public.. This breach of service and oath of office is in a form of a court complaint that will be filed in Federal Court against all concerned. Also, all of these elected and or appointed law officers, agents, etc government people, must have a signed page of oath of office and have in on the record for public view This should be copied and inserted as evidence charges when filing in breach of oath..etc.. 14. We Patriots are NOT establishing any kind of shadow form of government. We the people are the MASTERS (people) taking charge because of the lack of duty that our servants have done. And that is why we have a duty, a right and an obligation to our nation, to weed out these rats in the wood piles of governments as our public servants, and file charges against themdue to lack of accountability of the servants to do their jobs correctly resulting in the false arrests of and murders of people within the Sovereign States, by Federal, County and State officials 15. I hope this helps. Know these facts I am NOT a BAR attorney. I am not giving you legal advice per say as an attorney I am a private Investigator with the Sons and Daughters of Liberty, Established lawfully in 1993 and then in the State of Arizona I did register such a name for my companyas (the Sons and Daughters of Liberty and its logo) such to protect such a name, from being taken and used by unlawful means by governments and others And, as I am not charging anyone, anything for my studies and investigation findings I am not acting for profits to help. In fact, I am only giving you educational found support, that I have uncovered in over 20 years of investigating governments crimes to help Patriots find legal advice and counsel that will assist the people, in getting back our nation from the global community new world order bankers that now run it. David J. DAddabbo sui juris et de jure. Without prejudice, All God Given Rights preserved, By Order of the Bill of Rights. davedaddabbo@bluespring.me . DAddabbo Ranch Headquarters: 5380 Hollow Road, Nibley, Utah (84321 postal locator number..) If they are looking for subversives that want to overthrow the government, look at Bernie Sanders. Want to talk about inciting revolution? Go to a Bernie Sanders rally. Have to wonder if the current AG realizes that the strong cities network is an extremist action being committed by socialist extremists ? Gathered that if an American citizen read our Constitution / Bill of Natural Rights respected what our founding fathers wrote as the foundation of all following laws by setting parameters for all laws then you are an extremists ? Did not see anything about any democrat extremist , after all all mass shootings were committed by democrats , the KKK democrats just wondering just how slanted this war on domestic terrorism is actually going to be ?? Has our nation that inspired the world going to follow the historical path of many tyrannical socialist nations ? How frightening that OUR government would consider a dissenting voice to be an extremist. Have they all gone mad? America is broken. Well, we should start seeing memberd of BLM, Black Kittens, and a million Muslims and Imans arrested. VERY soon. LaVoy Finicum:first patriot murdered by Oregon State Police Thuggery! You must not put this on the Police. They are following orders. If they felt those orders were not Constitutional, they do not have to follow them. Put it on the corrupt Federal Government, and the peeps they hire to do the dirty work..like all the hired guns they brought to the Bundy ranch! Yes, however, no matter what you cannot change the fact that this operation was carried out by the Oregon State Police! Funny how they downplayed the conspiracy to bomb the arch in St Louis by the New Black Panthers but now we have this over reaching garbage from the dept of injustice. We definitely have laws that only apply to white people nowadays. Holder used to have a race card in his wallet and he told one of his subordinates that the black criminal and the black prosecutor share a common goal. What do you expect from a President, who is FRIENDS with Bill Ayers, who blew up a police station and the Pentagon..and who knows what else. And killed people! A despicable piece of human trash! Holder was involved with an armed takeover of an ROTC building but you never heard about that during the Oregon sit in. Yeah Ayers bombed federal offices yet still had unguarded meetings with the president??? Strange how when they disagree with the govt its protesting yet when conservatives do it its domestic terrorism as far as the ameracan government goes with SPYING ON US it depends on what race and or religion and or what politecale field they are in and all of the above what was supposed too be our strength in a mulltiple nationalaty group of ameracans has turned in too who ever hates who will cercumvent the laws agenst whom ever thy dont like when in power AMERACA IS FALLING APART BECASE DIFFERENT POLLITECALE PARTYS KEEP SWITCHING THE AGENDAS AS WELL AS POCKETTING THE TAX MONEY FOR THERE OWN GROUP IN OTHERWARDS ITS ONE ROBBING THE OTHER DEPENDING ON WHOS IN POWER i am mulltiply educated in most main line religions if ameracans quit attacting eachothers religious beliefs and worked for peace and quit allowing missguided people too throw there moneys away supporting fouren intersests ameraca can be strong again boycot aid too isrfael and bring the troups home now This is getting surreal, government is preparing to jack boot stand on any citizens face they deem a threat; like picking your nose in public or stepping on a crack in the side walk. Its simple, if you are concerned of this becoming the next holocaust, we the people, must rise up! If you do nothing, theyll keep on getting worse! In other words, because the government is stepping up their tyranny, they need to step up their fight against those that resist it. Bottom line, we either fight, or die! Other countries dont have a jr. Hitler whos life ambition is to destroy America! Obama is using the hitler how to book! He is opening our borders so people who aim to kill Americans can waltz right in! Do any of you really believe Obama will leave office peacefully? The elitists who put him here, want him to stay here as a dictator! The U.N. and China have told Obama to take more of a dictatorial role as president! There will soon be a massive push to confiscate our guns! There will be resistance, and marshal law will be implemented! Two things holding up a One World Government! The Dollar, and our guns! Has anyone ever questioned why it is we only see this with Democrat regimes in place? Why arent we revolting? These possible legal changes are only the latest effort to combat extremism by the Justice Department OK, thats good but now please explain how the people combat extremism IN the justice department. Theyve got it all covered! Only the people can oust them at this point! We should have all of the communists sent to California, all the LGBT crowd, Hispanics, Islamists, and Africans, then build a giant wall! Live happily ever after! Suggest folks watch 2 films: Agenda Grinding America Down and Agenda 2 Masters of Deceit. These shed much light concerning the goings-on in our nation. These are must-see films. Obama must be scratching his head, thinking, what do I have to do to set this off? Ive tried everything and they dont even try to stop me! He has committed treason several times, he ignores congress, and our lawful steps and procedures, he Has aided and abetted ISSIS, he has brought the Muslim brotherhood into his administration, he refuses to fight anyone, he is depleting our military, he even illuminated the peoples house in rainbow lights Lets start with obozos mosque I really believe we have a lot of ex-military men who would represent the people against Obama! They are our patriots, and most military in active duty would back the people! We just need a plan! You generals who resigned over the treasonous POTUS and Susan Rice, would love to lead us right? Well, it is not hard to understand why the Government is doing this. It is simply, because the things they are doing are illegal and against the Constitution of the Country. They are scared and they should be. They need to focus on Os good friends,look at what his beloved refugee just did!! In Ohio one hacked people with a machete,this is disgraceful to ignore it and talk about domestic terrorists.Christians arent going to go out and kill even 1 person,much less a group.Its a sin to kill,those that do will be punished.Its also a sin to condemn innocent people of crimes done by fanatics.God will punish those in our govt,we dont have to.God says vengeance is mine. Hmmm, I wonder if the New Black Panthers and Louis Fs Nation of Islam are considered domestic extremists by Obamas Justice Dept. Somehow, I think not. Odd how the definition of terrorist fits to the tee our federal government and it current mode of operation. Maybe they would be wise to lay down their weapons and ease off the scene before we exercise our rights to abolish every agency and fire them, not by gun powder, but with pink slips, from the polls. They can start with obozos mosque. what can one do? dont tell me to vote Hitler s henchmen. Alive and Well. Reason why The American People are Piss off with the Feds, is because they are encroaching in our Lives!!,the SOB should be rounding off all of OBozos Muslim disciples trying to kill US!!,.Traitor Bastards!! So doj and other domestic terrorists who have infiltrated our gov are going to arrest or even shoot themselves? This is happening just as we read that Obama has taken many terrorists off watch lists. I can only hope some of our candidates will speak out against what Obamas directives have been, along with the many convicted terrorists he released from Guantanamo, like the ones who have proven to go back directly to fighting against the US. Then they should arrest obama for providing training and arms to terrorist organizations in Syria and Libya! Senior officials with the U.S. Department of Justice recently Well patriots, we are now labeled as domestic terrorists.they sure didnt grease that one. Did they? They are taking everything. They cannot have my soul! The government will not clearly define who it is targeting in its war on extremism because it needs the ambiguity to maneuver around individual rights. Ambiguity is a tactic exploited by the regimes lawyers to chill dissidents. The dictatorship is forming. And Congress does nothing. See now? Congress is part of it. Excellent article, Derrick. Thanks. The tipping point, from terrorists to domestic terrorists to domestic extremists has to be when TPTB labeled the Founding Fathers extremists. Their agenda is there, for all to see who have eyes TO see. Everybody knows the government is behind all so called terrorism. The traitor John Carlin and his ilk will be brought to justice sooner rather than later. This is one scary situation. Freedom of Speech and Freedom of Assembly are about to completely disappear. Welcome the USSA (United Soviet States of America). The great die off is well on Its way Domestic Terrorists? Translation: White guys who are married with children that live in Idaho and fix classic muscle cars from the 1960s and who dont work for the governmentLOL Its the transparent targeting of whites by the leftist U.S. government liberals.. If the 1% elite could un-invent the internet I am sure they would because up till now anyway it is not completely under their control although MOST of it is already used by them to keep track of us , the people . Facebook , Twitter , Wikipedia , Amazon are just a few examples . Just think how easy it was for them before we had the internet when we just had printed press , TV and radio all controlled by the authorities in each separate country . Now we can read Russian and other foreign media which on some computers , like mine , can all be translated into English so we are not locked into their programmes or should I say propaganda . I regard myself as a truth seeker and use my computer a lot to research different aspects of news and geopolitics ( just what they don`t want us to do ) and I do wonder if I am become an undesirable in this non-violent terrorist sense that David Cameron spoke about not so long ago at the UN . John Kerry is another western politician who has publicly stated that sites like RT and Sputnik are just pure propaganda and we should not pay any attention to them as they only tell lies. This was when he was announcing to the whole world that Putin had shot down MH17 would you believe which just has to be the very height of irony and hypocracy . Let me translate this for you. If you attempt in any way, by words or action to thwart the plans of the New World Order,AKA Rich Elites, To enslave, rob and murder you. We will enslave , rob, torture and murder you, signed Adolph Hit, ooops my error, Lorretta Lynch,US Government. The alien/military/industrial/complex (AMIC) is alive and well on your planet with the plan of your extinction . As sovereign planetary citizens, we no longer need to obey the law of the inalienable corporate structure of the elites. It is your duty to revolt against the Fourth Reich and its elite corporate terrorists and their Reptilian Overlords. These false conservative/liberal politicians are not to be obeyed. Your mind is your weapon, aim your intent and follow through. A citizens right to action can nullify any Federal construct; apply your intent and energy. The Reptilians are afraid of the mental power that can be wielded by human beings who can focus and release their inner energy. There is no force stronger in the universe than the focused imagination of the heart/mind. Protectors of humanity your moment has come. Resist the rigged faux leadership that is attempting to end your existence. As the tempo of the astrophysical energies align with your cause in this year of the Red Monkey poise yourself by 2/22/16 and condense your thoughts through the next 3 full moons of 3/23/16, 4/22/16 and 5/21/16. Do not be afraid, there is no power stronger in reality than the human thought form, this is cosmic law. Imagine!! The main features of fascism were. 1) A highly authoritarian state which used extreme repression to liquidate all challenges to the existing order. 2) A political regime that uncompromisingly represented the interests of the economically dominant class. 3) A violent assertion of expansionist ambitions for control of territory. 4) The mobilization of civilian goon squads to deal with dissidents and create an environment of fear. 5) Ideological proclamation to create a conception of nationalism as the superiority of the Nation and its people over all other nations and peoples; as a corollary to nationalism, racist conceptions of manifest destiny to suppress, conquer, or eliminate inferior races. Looks like the U.S. is there. The challenges will not be perceived as from the Right but from the Movements for Change and the full force of the State of National Insecurity will be unleashed against dissidents. I pray that enough people in this Country wake up and stop believing the govt. when the govt. labels certain peaceful individuals or groups as extremists-domestic or otherwise. All because the People refuse to Unify around their Constitution and unify around some insignificant issue. they want to shut us up Domestic terrorist eric holder needs to be the 1st arrested for supplying explosives to the OK. Cty. Bombers as a sting under janet reino bill clinton lets not forget Fast Furious gun running to Mexico. The next is Killery clinton for gun ammo running from Benghazi,through Turkey to Syria. Then there is POTUS zero for training the Syria rebels through the CIA. Several OTHER countries have designated the Muslim Brotherhood as a terrorist organization. WHEN will this country do the same ? Ever ? ANYONE have an answer to that ? Black Lives Matter calls for killing cops, but they are just a simple hate group. Yeah sure, everyone with half a brain knows that ISLAMIC MUSLIM TERRORISTS beahead, rape, kill, etc.. NOT American domestic extremists. But hey, no worries Americans, your gov has got your back NOT! ANYONE who has been paying attention this last 7 plus years should have seen this coming. Its getting close to the end now, so the dick tater has to tighten the noose so to speak, on the little people that might threaten his agenda. People who didnt see this, probably voted for him. I will tell you the greatest crime going on here. They are planning to kill OUR CHILDREN! Or at least make them sick enough to be a constant money earner for BIG PHARMA! When you think about it this is so seriously unforgiveable it defies any word to find to describe these cockroaches! Try getting your head around it when you look at your children or grand children sleeping at night. Honestly. WE HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO TAKE UP ARMS AND FIGHT FOR THAT REASON ALONE!!! After the events of May 4, 1970 I made several decisions. One was that as it would be morally bankrupt to bring a child into a world like this I went and got myself cut. No doctor I spoke to in DUHmerica would do it so I got it done elsewhere. I went to send you another post and it was deleted. No notice given either. this is what its coming to Tell me about the date you mention, brother A quick google would have given you the answer to this very important date. The Kent State Massacre. Its the day I finally could no longer deny all the lies I had been inculcated with since birth. Its the day I began hating the warmongering terrorist regime that has seized control of Washington DC. Ok, mate. I do have an interest in some american history, like the civil war. I thought the date was something that may have happened to you on a more personal level. Cheers, mate It was VERY personal. US soldiers, wearing US uniforms, fired US rifles and handguns, using US ammunition at US citizens ON US SOIL!. In direct conflict with the US Constitution and Posse Comitatus. My generation. My friends. Gunned down in anger and retribution. It catalyzed my thinking. It galvanized my mind. It made me examine all the lies I had been inculcated with. It pissed me off. I couldnt sleep. Quite a variation of comments and commentators below. I dont affiliate with any political party because I believe politics is the practice of choosing who is the least worst of the bunch. thats fineDOJ can take a bullet just like anyone else Gone are the days where creatures of the Right such as myself can be content with laughing at and ridiculing the jackanapes of the Left; we must now recognise them for the deadly enemies they are and fight them as such. After 50-100 years of Liberal Democrat Socialist policies, bureaucratic regulations, rules, laws, and imposed societal indoctrination, and now under Obama, their goal is nearing its completion- from Obamacare to Common Core the denigration of the Founding Fathers, the attack on the US Constitution, Sovereign Individual, Freedom and Liberty (Freedom of Speech and Religion, Right to Bear Arms-ie; Unalienable Rights), the Family unit, Christianity, Judaism / Religious Morality, ie; the dumbing down of Americans to the lowest possible common denominator, creating indoctrinated blind obedient useful idiots to the State-aka Democrats, this is where we are at, on the precipitous of being a socialist communist police state, with allegiance to Islamist Muslim terrorists like ISIS and Iran, if the current course is not immediately stopped and reversed. This is the dirty little secret. The leftists promised a social welfare paradise that was unsustainable. Now, to cover their ample rumps, they are importing these cretins to fill the tax rolls. But the party is over. The invaders dont share your vision and now you will suffer complete civil breakdown. Aint socialism grand? Meanwhile our beloved leftist leaders in the states praise this model of governance as enlightened and the pierced nosed, tattoed, pant saggers lap it up. We have become a nation of lazy fools that has squandered freedom and opportunity in favor of the false promises of the corrupt political elite. You have ignored our warnings while branding us as xenophobes, haters, and knuckle daggers. Soon you will get the country that you deserve. Unfortunately, the rest of us will also have to suffer for your ignorance. You say we could argue the morality of a particular scenario without the particulars being true to a historical reality. I must strenuously disagree. If the reality ISNT true, than ANY moral judgments would be false. Its really that simple. The book you refer to has been proven inaccurate by newer studies, Even the estimates of the number of Native Americans has vastly changed during the last several decades. Famines occurred, but the driving force was disease. A factor that made the Natives so much more vulnerable to it was the FORCED labor by the Spanish of Natives in the hunt for, extraction of, and transportation of gold and silver. It is true the Incans were a violent lot who sacrifice many. But even still, disease did far more damage. Your comment that The prudent jury listens to the holy advice judge not lest ye be judged' flies in the face of the entire history of law, including Gods law as you forget the VITAL second part, For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. By your reasoning, we could never hold criminals accountable. As for Finicum, Bundy, and others in their movement, Im not at all sure theyd forgive those who work for the government. From personal experience, I seen that many on the far far right are haters, not forgivers, and even claim that any federal employee is a traitor or worse. Im not saying that many of their grievances arent true, but that two wrongs dont make a right. You have the official(I learned from a book, printed by the same people that control most information worldwide) answer to everything. Your ego stroking is evident in your posts. What questions did you ask? No not interested in demonizing anyone. Not interested in animals, just figured your so educated that you would spout the real story behind HIV. Since your so good at telling us the same ole lies. Overwhelming evidence? Where? In the history books, where all your opinions reside. Im using logic based on the fact that we are lied to on every level, about almost everything. So I apologize if I threaten your official indoctrination. Your ego is wrapped up in the official story that you paid to learn. If that teaching was shown to be a lie, you may feel a bit silly. You vomiting the official story in your learned ways may seem like wisdom to you, but I dont need to read your opinion on any subject,its already in a book printed by the .01%. You post the same type drivel of most conspiracy theorists who cant tolerate different opinions. You say you dont want to demonize anyone, yet I dont you dont see you comment, Next youll try to convince me HIV came from people banging monkey, or saying someone who posts something you disagree with as having an outsized ego as demonizing a person as trying to do just that. Youre quite the prevaricator. You claim I got the information from a book, its due to my education that I spout the truth about AIDS, that my opinions reside in history books Ive never written, and I paid to learn the truth about HIV. Youre so benighted and puerile as you havent a clue what logic is. However, I didnt get all my information about HIV from books. I went to a seminar by a forensic dentist investigating the case of a homosexual dentist who intentionally infected five of his patients. He discovered how AIDS came about, but not the conspiracy theories you likely subscribe to. This was BEFORE conspiracy theories came out. Yet like a benighted conspiracists, you wont consider differing opinions, thus confirming its you with the ego problem and a problem with those who have a better education than you. So go ahead and be a caitiff and a knave and demonize people like the Christian you arent. May you have a Saul experience on your personal road to Damascus. 