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-B	2.13	Okay , well I think we're ready to begin .	participant names
-B	5.63	Right , my name's Adam Duguid , we're here because of real reaction , um , we have in the group Um , yeah , go for it mate .	participant names
-C	13.24	Oh , Ebenezer Ademesoye .	participant names
-C	15.21	Would you like me to spell that ?	participant names
-C	18.09	S Um , N_E_Z_ E_R_ .	participant names
-B	21.97	N_ E_ Z_ .	participant names
-B	24.41	Ebenezer .	participant names
-B	24.9	And your role is ?	participant names
-C	26.3	I'm the Marketing Expert .	participant names
-B	28.5	You're the Marketing Expert , okay .	participant names
-B	33.33	Next we have ?	participant names
-D	34.34	Tarik Rahman .	participant names
-D	35.15	T_A_R_I_K_ .	participant names
-B	36.52	T_ R_ I_ K_ .	participant names
-B	38.29	And your role in this is ?	participant names
-D	39.84	Industrial Designer .	participant names
-B	41.01	Industrial Designer .	participant names
-B	47.69	And , lastly we have ?	participant names
-A	49.38	Uh , Dave Cochrane .	participant names
-B	53.02	And you're going to be the User Interface , is it ?	participant names
-A	54.24	User Interface Defin Designer , yes .	participant names
-B	55.07	Designer .	participant names
-B	55.62	Okay .	participant names
-B	62.12	Right .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	63.0	This is the agenda for today's meeting .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	64.62	As you can see , w opening , acquaintance , tool training , project plan discussion , and closing .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	70.17	Um , we already got n through opening , and partially through acquaintance .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	75.83	So , the reason we're here , we're gonna design a new remote control , as you probably all know .	project specs and roles of participants
-B	81.4	The very broad overview is original , trendy , and user-friendly .	project specs and roles of participants
-B	85.24	Course , we'll have to go into a bit more um detail than that , but uh personally I think that the original is gonna be a very key aspect to this design .	project specs and roles of participants
-B	95.87	Um , there's a lot of remote controls out there anyway , so we're gonna need something that's really gonna set it apart .	project specs and roles of participants
-B	105.69	This is how today seems to be going to work .	project specs and roles of participants
-B	107.73	We're gonna have the three kay phases , as you've probably already been told , the functional , architectural , and the detailed design .	project specs and roles of participants
-B	113.81	Um First one's gonna be covering the user requirement spec , technical functions , working design .	project specs and roles of participants
-B	123.67	Second seems to be conceptual components , properties , materials , and the last one is a detailed analysis of our design so far .	project specs and roles of participants
-B	131.85	Of course , you've all got the similar emails , I believe , right .	project specs and roles of participants
-B	138.15	What can I say ?	drawing exercise
-B	139.33	Ebenezer , you wanna have a you wanna draw your favourite animal ?	drawing exercise
-C	143.48	Sure .	drawing exercise
-C	147.95	Whiteboard .	drawing exercise
-C	150.92	'Kay .	drawing exercise
-C	154.61	S okay .	drawing exercise
-C	156.83	I will make this quick , since we don't have much time .	drawing exercise
-C	162.19	Um .	drawing exercise
-C	212.3	'Kay , so it's not the best picture in the world .	drawing exercise
-C	216.03	Here we have an elephant .	drawing exercise
-C	218.2	First point , begins with an E_ , same like Ebenezer .	drawing exercise
-C	223.11	Also , elephants have a very good memory , much like myself , and I can't remember back when I used to live back in Nigeria , but I think I used to have a pet elephant .	drawing exercise
-C	234.6	So elephants are big , strong and gentle , and they have great memories , and they begin with the letter E_ , just like Ebenezer .	drawing exercise
-B	243.68	Brilliantly done .	drawing exercise
-C	244.72	Thank you .	drawing exercise
-B	244.76	Thank you .	drawing exercise
-B	247.45	Tarik , would you like to have a shot at a bit of artistry ?	drawing exercise
-C	255.89	Oh .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	256.21	Oh , um , you can clip them to your belt .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	256.69	Oh oh I think you ga The little The the Oh that's good , we can clip them on .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	256.77	Do we take them off ?	agenda/equipment issues
-D	258.29	Oh right , okay .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	259.01	You should also l um have your the lapel mic on as well .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	263.78	Ah-ha .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	267.49	Okay .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	267.95	Yeah , there was this microphone as well that you Just um somewhere I think so .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	273.26	Now where do I put the Is this supposed to be clipped as well ?	agenda/equipment issues
-B	284.51	Yep , the , it's just across there , that's it .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	291.13	Yep .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	301.67	Yeah .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	301.96	It'll follow you if you You can probably just stick it in your pocket for now , I wouldn't worry too much .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	303.94	Yeah .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	305.06	There you go .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	311.23	Should have good range .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	317.08	Uh , destroying your elephant here .	drawing exercise
-D	393.91	Uh , here we have a tiger .	drawing exercise
-D	395.63	Uh I've always loved tigers .	drawing exercise
-D	399.52	They're just they're big , they're biggest cats , uh I did a project on cats in the wild when I was a kid and uh it was my favourite cat , just 'cause it was looks the best , the stripes , orange .	drawing exercise
-D	410.01	My dad used to talk about he's from Bangladesh so he used to tell me all about them when he was when I was a kid .	drawing exercise
-D	415.05	And uh they're just the most feared of of uh animals in the wild .	drawing exercise
-D	421.56	So uh that's why I like them .	drawing exercise
-D	424.13	Didn't say an anything about me really but Mm .	look and usability drawing exercise
-B	428.23	Excellent , thank you very much .	drawing exercise
-B	429.69	Dave , if you'd like to uh have a dash .	drawing exercise
-A	439.24	Um Um , the monkey , um .	drawing exercise
-A	564.21	The one f uh in fact this is a somewhat oblique reference in fact to uh well my I have a three uh three y year old daughter who h who who who is affectionately known as Miss Monkey .	drawing exercise
-A	575.35	Um , monkeys have attitude .	drawing exercise
-A	577.97	Which I think is a good thing .	drawing exercise
-A	579.51	And I mean fr and from uh from the point of view of sort of the study of human evolution they and other primates are terribly interesting .	drawing exercise
-A	588.74	Um , so I like monkeys .	drawing exercise
-A	592.69	And and th th th th thi thi this one seems to have perhaps more attitude than most .	drawing exercise
-B	606.19	Cheers .	drawing exercise
-B	656.53	Hardly what I'd call the best drawing in the world but it'll do for now .	drawing exercise
-B	659.64	Also not quite as feared as your average tiger , but uh cats are one of my favourite animals , they're very independent , they're snotty as hell at the best of times , and uh , what can you say , you got to love those qualities in an animal .	drawing exercise
-B	680.46	Right .	project budget
-B	681.47	I think we've all managed to master the whiteboard there by looks of it , so , on to it .	project budget
-B	687.11	Project finance .	project budget
-B	688.44	As you can see , twelve point five Euros per unit .	project budget
-B	693.12	That's not a terrible lot as far as I'm aware , and we're hoping to sell them for twenty five .	project budget
-B	699.14	If we're aiming for fifty million Euros we're gonna have to be selling an awful lot of them .	project budget
-C	705.6	Oh , that was profiting , that was an amount , so that's the amount made , okay .	project budget
-B	710.0	Yep .	project budget
-B	711.12	Well , fifty million , and if you're making twelve point five Euros on each one , then , awful lot need to be sold .	project budget
-C	717.09	Yeah .	project budget
-B	721.12	Okay .	discussion
-B	722.26	Now we better actually just get on with the uh the meat of the project .	discussion
-B	725.84	So I'm gonna guess that we've all used remote controls .	discussion
-B	730.78	Any ideas of where you think a new remote control could go into this market ?	discussion
-A	736.97	Well , one thing I'm aware of is , th there uh um at the sort of v very high price end of the market there's there's a em emerging market for sort of touch screen L_C_D_ remotes that can be uh programmed in m much more sophisticated ways than sort of conventional models , so you get the sort of you get um you you can redesign the interface to your own needs , you can programme in macros , and you get a much greater degree um um I mean you get in these sort of three in one , five in one , whatevers , but you can get integration between the different uh the the the diff the different things that it's designed to control , to a much greater extent , and you can have one uh you know one macro to turn the uh you know turn the T_V_ to the right channel , get the uh re uh rewind the tape in the V_C_R_ and get it to play once it's rewound , for instance .	look and usability
-B	790.07	Okay .	look and usability
-A	790.71	Um b it occurs to me there might be a niche for uh for a remote that aimed towards some of that sort of functionality but using a just conventional push button design .	look and usability
-A	806.4	And therefore putting it into a um well much lower price bracket .	look and usability
-B	812.69	Okay , yeah , tha that's true , with the price range we're looking at , going for a touch screen would probably be possibly out of our yeah .	look and usability
-A	819.18	Absolutely prohibitive , yeah .	look and usability
-C	820.69	Oh .	look and usability
-B	821.2	But you think uh again something to control multiple units in uh a simple fashion .	look and usability
-A	825.96	Yeah , I mean I wouldn't like to say you g I mean you get ones that you can switch between multiple units , but something that could um operate between multiple units in a more integrated fashion .	look and usability
-A	836.06	Some and ideally something into which it would have some at least limited facility for um running macros .	look and usability
-B	845.65	Would the the idea something along the lines of , one on button would turn on say the video recorder , the T_V_ , maybe the sound system as well , all in one go , is that kind of Okay , that sounds like a a good strong idea .	look and usability
-A	853.68	For instance , um let's say oh oh um , or um you know you pr uh you press uh say the play button for the D_V_D_ player and it turns the T_V_ on and onto the right channel as well , um Mm-hmm .	look and usability
-C	871.65	'Kay Well um I've noticed that uh gaming c is becoming quite popular with television , um when I was younger we used to e play games using our cable , using the cable subscribed the cable providers , but our remote controls would get worn out really easily , and the remote control was not a great kind of keyboar , um keypad , for playing games .	look and usability
-B	874.81	Um Any takes on this ?	look and usability
-C	903.3	So perhaps one that was more um specialised for game playing or interactive television .	look and usability
-B	903.32	Okay .	look and usability
-C	910.0	They they've recently brought out this new remote control , for people to set their favourite channels , or um to record things .	look and usability
-C	917.64	Instead of people entering in what time things start , you simply stri slide a bar to say what time it begins , and slide another bar to say what time it ends , you know that's Yeah , it's it's taken out the Y you don't have to be uh really clever to use a remote control .	look and usability
-B	925.19	Okay .	look and usability
-B	927.99	Yeah I've heard I've seen the bar-code design before , yeah .	look and usability
-A	930.23	Mm-hmm .	look and usability
-C	937.79	I think for gaming , you know you want you want some big buttons for up , down , left and right , shoot .	look and usability
-C	944.45	Uh , you wanna be able to change angles in interactive television , so you need buttons to change the television angle , the camera angles and stuff like that .	look and usability
-B	953.03	Okay , well we're beginning to run out of time now , so , we've got a couple of ideas , we can we'll have to work fast , um , alright as you can see we've got thirty minutes until the next meeting , so we'll have to try and decide on some of the basic functionality , um , how the user interface might work , that'll be a key aspect especially if the idea of um some kind of macros facility because you have to program it , you have to have a lot of response back , or at least some kind .	discussion
-D	953.24	'Kay .	look and usability
-C	955.24	Yeah .	discussion
-A	982.47	Mm-hmm .	discussion
-B	983.25	Um And we're gonna maybe n try and have to figure out what the user wants , yes .	discussion
-C	991.23	What the user wants uh .	discussion
-C	993.45	Okay .	discussion
-B	994.44	Um , right .	discussion
-B	996.83	Has anybody got anything they'd like to add at this stage , anything they think that might have been missed so far ?	look and usability
-D	1002.36	Well when you're talking about gaming and stuff , do you think they should have some sort of stick on it , rather than buttons ?	look and usability
-C	1008.75	Oh .	look and usability
-C	1009.44	Okay , .	look and usability
-D	1010.16	Like uh control pads , you know of games , but or is that a bit ridiculous ?	look and usability
-C	1013.59	Mm-hmm .	look and usability
-B	1016.96	I I don't see why not , almost everybody is probably used to a console by now , and all of them incorporate small keypads on them , in fact even the mobile phones these days are beginning to use them as well , so it's probably an interface that most people are used to .	look and usability
-D	1026.16	Yeah .	look and usability
-B	1030.74	Um and that could allow n easy navigation , used as a joystick as well .	look and usability
-A	1045.78	Mm-hmm .	look and usability
-A	1046.04	The other key feature that uh that would be a good idea built into it is t is is to make something you know fairly sort of ergonomic , something that just fits fits as comfortably as possible into the hand .	look and usability
-A	1060.06	But of course , uh al al also allows for the possibility of a more sort of slightly unconventional or attractive uh sha shape for it overall , .	look and usability
-B	1072.5	Okay .	look and usability
-B	1075.58	So , small , stylish , and something that's just a little different .	look and usability
-A	1077.09	A curve , mm-hmm .	look and usability
-A	1080.04	Something sort of sort of sl slightly sort of biomorphic in form , uh which it would need to be to sort of conform to the shape of the hand more efficiently anyway .	look and usability
-B	1088.53	Okay .	look and usability
-B	1089.74	That's definitely something that we should be able to do quite easily .	look and usability
-B	1093.27	I would I would have hoped so anyway .	look and usability
-B	1095.67	Um , right .	discussion
-B	1100.31	I'd say we finish this one up , we get started , I'll get in , I'll write up what we've um kind of quickly done , and I'll get that out to everybody .	closing
-C	1109.99	'Kay .	closing
-B	1110.46	Yeah ?	closing
-C	1111.08	So .	closing
-B	1111.74	Okay .	closing
-B	1118.69	Um , as far as I'm aware we leave the microphones here , um unless we get told otherwise , and just take the laptops with us .	agenda/equipment issues

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-C	4.35	Just put it on the deskt desktop .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	7.05	No on the desktop you'll find you should find that there's a project documents link .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	15.29	A well actually just there .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	16.4	Project documents , yeah .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	17.49	Yeah .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	17.75	That's it .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	18.57	If you dump it in there .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	19.59	What's your username ?	agenda/equipment issues
-B	21.55	Your username .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	22.6	What's your username and password ?	agenda/equipment issues
-C	29.12	Mm-hmm .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	34.52	Sorry .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	39.45	Okay .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	39.62	Okay .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	41.82	There we go .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	42.83	Excellent .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	43.34	Right .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	45.51	Hopefully that's us ready to uh to go .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	48.6	So .	opening
-B	50.03	Functional design meeting .	opening
-B	51.33	We'll have to flesh out some of the uh stuff .	opening
-B	54.23	Um we'll start with the minutes of the last meeting .	opening
-B	59.46	Not a lot thankfully to say .	opening
-B	61.01	We introduced ourselves , discussed the possibility of a macro facility , interac interacting the T_V_ a bit more , um mentioning of bar-code , joystick for user manipulation , um and ergonomics of the remote control as well .	opening
-B	78.62	Um it's come to my attention the following .	new requirements
-B	83.14	Teletext has become outdated due to the populat popularity of the internet .	new requirements
-B	87.88	Remote control should only be used for the T_V_ .	new requirements
-B	90.63	Um due for uh time to market and possibly also cost issues .	new requirements
-B	97.04	Um also key is the corporate image should stay recognisable , um f uh your colour and slogan of course is down at the bottom there .	new requirements
-B	107.12	Um .	new requirements
-B	108.22	Now .	new requirements
-B	110.03	Just to say quickly uh I would have thought that only being used for a television the macro facility may now not be required .	new requirements
-A	121.21	Mm .	new requirements
-B	122.0	Um or at l its functionality would have been of limited use .	new requirements
-B	125.66	So to the point in my opinion anyway that it might not be worth pursuing .	new requirements
-B	130.85	Um if anybody disagrees we can uh definitely say so .	new requirements
-B	135.12	Um and hopefully we'll just crack on and we'll get everything going .	new requirements
-B	139.98	Um I'd like to if possible hear from our Marketing Expert first , to help us gain an idea of where we're going to go .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	144.36	'Kay .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	147.35	So um I'll just load up your presentation from here if you want .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	151.21	Sure .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	155.15	Um , sh would you like to I'll just do it from here .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	160.27	Yep .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	160.59	Sorry .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	161.83	Uh .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	163.47	Is yours the Oh sorry .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	166.37	Um , try second one maybe .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	174.96	Try it , yeah maybe .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	176.89	Yeah .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	177.21	Okay .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	177.37	Okay , right .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	178.4	Oh , I thought I put in my last name , I guess not , but .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	181.04	Uh if you that's all right .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	183.08	Okay .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	183.2	If you do you want me to just cycle through it for you or ?	agenda/equipment issues
-C	186.42	Oh yeah , that'd be fine , that'd be great .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	187.64	Yeah ?	agenda/equipment issues
-C	188.03	Okay .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	188.93	Functional requirement by me Ebenezer .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	192.78	Okay .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	194.65	Okay , so um we did some research , we asked one hundred people their opinions on remote controls .	marketing expert presentation
-C	201.71	We asked some uh open ended questions , just , what are your opinions on the remote control , got a lot of re responses , and we asked some very specific questions , and we got a lot of good feedback .	marketing expert presentation
-C	213.81	Please bear in mind this is only a hundred people , so even when the groups are divided into fifteen to twenty five , twenty five to thirty five , there's only maybe ten people fifteen people in each group .	marketing expert presentation
-C	227.39	Okay .	marketing expert presentation
-B	227.45	Okay .	marketing expert presentation
-C	229.51	So we got some the bad stuff we got , remotes are often lost .	marketing expert presentation
-C	234.41	I often lose my remote control , the back of the couch , some place , and even if it's not lost permanently , it takes me a few minutes to find it .	marketing expert presentation
-C	243.65	Most buttons are not used any more , like you said , teletext is outdated now .	marketing expert presentation
-C	248.23	I remember trying to load a D_V_D_ player recently , and there were so many buttons , it took me I don't know maybe ten minutes to to go through each button , 'cause you have to press the shift button to access the yellow buttons , you know there's just a lot of stuff that no one really uses .	marketing expert presentation
-C	263.66	And if they do , not very often .	marketing expert presentation
-C	266.88	Takes too long to master the remote control .	marketing expert presentation
-C	269.35	I've seen some remote controls that are big , they have a lot of buttons , you have to hold down more than one key at one time to do something , they're just not great to use .	marketing expert presentation
-C	278.61	We just got a lot of bad complaints about remote controls , people do not like remote controls .	marketing expert presentation
-C	284.15	Some of the good stuff we got .	marketing expert presentation
-C	286.58	Between the age of uh fifteen and twenty five , most people would be willing to pay extra for voice recognition software .	marketing expert presentation
-C	294.26	Now don't get excited yet , I've got more to say on that .	marketing expert presentation
-C	297.71	Most people'd be willing to pay for that um most people want remote controls to be pretty , they want it to be fancy , th they they want it to be different , everybody has a white remote control with black buttons , and a red button and a green button , not everybody wants that .	marketing expert presentation
-C	315.03	Finally , my opinion .	marketing expert presentation
-B	316.9	Yep .	marketing expert presentation
-C	318.31	The voice recognition thing is cool .	marketing expert presentation
-C	320.89	And uh voice recognition , the software , open source software exist already .	marketing expert presentation
-C	325.48	It's a bit sketchy at some times , uh , you're not gonna get good always accurate results , but for a very fixed number of words , you know you have , how many different words can you have for a remote control , up , down , left , right , channel five , channel seven , you know , how many , you can't have that many words .	marketing expert presentation
-C	342.3	For a fixed vocabulary it works quite well .	marketing expert presentation
-C	345.55	I'm pretty sure people would buy it .	marketing expert presentation
-C	347.46	But after a while people may wanna return it , because if you have to to say som I mean most people use a remote control for switching to channels , and they say they do that about ninety eight percent of the time .	marketing expert presentation
-C	359.53	Using the remote control , ninety eight percent of the time for changing channels , and that's for flickering through channels .	marketing expert presentation
-C	364.47	So if you have to say up , up , up , up , if you have to do that all the time , then people might get a bit fed up with that and they may return it .	marketing expert presentation
-C	374.84	However , oh , because the voice recognition software exists already , there's no need to spend money on research and development , but this does mean the need for microphones in the in the remote control , which is an unusual feature in my opinion .	marketing expert presentation
-C	391.17	But if we do have the voice recognition thing , there's a lot of stuff that you can uh get rid of .	marketing expert presentation
-C	397.64	See , you could there're two options .	marketing expert presentation
-C	399.0	Either you have voice recognition by itself , which I think is a bit impractical for like night time if you wanna be watching television and you wanna be quiet , or I don't know you have a visitor coming round and the remote's only trained for you , it's a bit impractical to have just voice recognition by itself .	marketing expert presentation
-C	414.18	So you can have voice recognition and a regular remote .	marketing expert presentation
-C	418.02	But imagine you got rid of the regular remote part , then you can design the remote to look any way you want it to look , because there are no restrictions on physical size , or shape , it it could be as fancy as you want it to be , you know , it could be like a lollipop or something like that , something weird like that .	marketing expert presentation
-C	435.33	As long as the voice recognition stuff works , that's that's fine .	marketing expert presentation
-B	438.88	Okay , yep .	marketing expert presentation
-C	439.83	So we have the three birds , we have the design , that we have the the fancy bit , right , the voice recognition's fancy , it's cool , it's different , it's radical , so , and then we have an extra bit I don't remember so I'm pretty sure people will buy the remote , but is it practical to have a voice recognition system in a remote control , I think is a big question .	marketing expert presentation
-C	462.81	Um , will people will people be willing to wait for the the period that it'll take to train the remote , 'cause I think it will the remote will uh get better over time with the same user user , but for the first week or for the first two weeks are you willing to wait , are you willing to have a bad remote control .	marketing expert presentation
-C	482.62	And uh what if you have visitors come round , they stay the night , they wanna use the T_V_ , they can't use the remote because they speak differently to you .	marketing expert presentation
-C	490.92	Um , how do you account for regional accents and stuff like that .	marketing expert presentation
-C	494.54	Uh , will people return the remote control , I think a lot of young people will buy the remote control , if they have the money , you know , so , do our audience have the money , but would they return it after a while because it's not as fast as pressing a button , it's not a practical .	marketing expert presentation
-B	501.84	Mm-hmm .	marketing expert presentation
-C	509.19	So .	marketing expert presentation
-B	510.45	If you could uh sor if you could speed it up a bit , yeah .	marketing expert presentation
-C	510.47	These are things I think we should consider .	marketing expert presentation
-C	512.53	I think it's cool , I'm sorry ?	marketing expert presentation
-B	515.62	If you could uh speed it up a bit please , yeah .	marketing expert presentation
-C	517.28	Sure .	marketing expert presentation
-C	517.61	I'm about to end , yeah .	marketing expert presentation
-B	517.8	Sorry .	marketing expert presentation
-B	518.33	Cool .	marketing expert presentation
-C	518.67	I think it's cool but there are definitely some considerations .	marketing expert presentation
-B	524.05	Okay .	marketing expert presentation
-C	524.08	So , yeah .	marketing expert presentation
-B	524.9	Excellent .	marketing expert presentation
-B	525.37	Right .	marketing expert presentation
-B	526.22	Um .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	529.26	Hear from the User Interface Designer now I think might be an idea .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	533.28	Okay .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	534.24	Um , you've got your presentation now , is it on the is it ?	agenda/equipment issues
-D	535.46	How did where did where did you get all your in information ?	agenda/equipment issues
-A	537.66	Yeah , it's in the it's in the folder yeah .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	539.45	Okay .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	541.27	There was uh a website , uh , right here .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	542.72	Oh .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	545.28	Ah , okay .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	546.09	Technical functions ?	agenda/equipment issues
-A	547.71	Mm .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	547.85	No .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	548.2	Yeah .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	548.27	G I started making stuff up , then I got an email saying Mm .	interface specialist presentation agenda/equipment issues
-B	556.33	Okay .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	557.36	Okay , this is a brief run through of the um of the technical functions of the remote .	interface specialist presentation
-A	562.51	As um is uh the the the presentation is uh already slightly obsolete because I had in mind something that would uh be i be aimed at controlling multiple devices but uh there's still stuff of relevance , so press on .	interface specialist presentation
-B	575.62	Okay .	interface specialist presentation
-A	577.98	I've looked at looked at a num uh couple of other uh remote control models just for an idea of basic design principles .	interface specialist presentation
-A	587.71	Um and wasn't really satisfied by what I saw I have to say so this is more sort of springboard for uh how these could be improved on .	interface specialist presentation
-A	600.02	Um um basically the job of the device is to send commands to an appliance , in this case the television set .	interface specialist presentation
-A	607.11	Um to save you getting off your backside .	interface specialist presentation
-A	610.55	Um and there's two main trends in th in the sort of design practice .	interface specialist presentation
-A	616.51	On the one hand and this uh this particularly relates to its sort of earliest models where with you know i so so many buttons on it so about the size of the television set .	interface specialist presentation
-A	627.48	Um giving you every possible function that the that the device has , the remote control controls .	interface specialist presentation
-A	634.83	And most of these functions are not going to be used , it creates a rather user unfriendly interface .	interface specialist presentation
-A	642.42	And on the other hand there's a user focused approach that pares things down to just what what is most likely to get used .	interface specialist presentation
-A	649.74	Um With uh a and a and of course there is a certain amount of sort of loss of function here obviously , but mostly that's relatively peripheral functions .	interface specialist presentation
-A	661.03	And so you go for something that's fairly intuitive to use , and um well f the for the most part for T_V_ remote it's uh tha that would be channel control and volume .	interface specialist presentation
-A	672.15	Um and if you if you if you are wanting to incorporate uh control of a D_V_ D_V_D_ or uh V_C_R_ presumably into that then there's a play , pause , stop , rewind , fast-forward , record , so forth .	interface specialist presentation
-A	687.88	Um .	interface specialist presentation
-A	690.26	My own view is that we should definitely be going for a user focused design .	interface specialist presentation
-A	694.3	Um but uh the pro I think the problem with a lot of the sort of user focused designs that are about is that they sort of make assumptions in advance about what uh what a given user's going to uh want mo want to do from want it to do most .	interface specialist presentation
-A	713.98	So , something that's uh something that is more programmable , that uh perh perhaps has the full range of functions available to it but you can then specify yourself what you're most likely to want .	interface specialist presentation
-A	730.62	Um so that those are then immediately accessible through fairly minimal number of controls , um I liked Ebenezer's idea of including a joystick in that and uh possibly a sort of fairly minimal number of sort of function buttons , and have a disp you then have some sort of basic display on it so that if you're um sort of cha changing from different modes for the device it'll tell you just exactly what uh you know each direction of the uh of the um joystick's going to do or wha or what each function button's going to do .	interface specialist presentation
-A	765.65	Um , this is actually a again slightly taking inspiration off of uh games controllers , you know the Playstation control where you have four basic function buttons that are just marked with um distinctive uh geometrical shapes but the and then dependent on what you're doing with it what game and so on um those uh those functions are then sort of further specified .	interface specialist presentation
-A	788.26	And so it's taking taking the lead from that .	interface specialist presentation
-A	792.39	Um .	interface specialist presentation
-B	792.41	Okay .	interface specialist presentation
-B	792.7	Yeah .	interface specialist presentation
-B	795.04	Right .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	795.33	That's it .	interface specialist presentation
-B	795.76	Um , if we could hear from our Industrial engineer , or Designer .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	800.37	Yeah .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	801.68	Uh , I was still working on stuff , I hadn't got it finished .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	804.42	Um , alright .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	807.14	Click to save in where do I have to save it ?	agenda/equipment issues
-B	810.1	If you look on the desktop you'll find that there's a link to the project folder , or project documents .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	816.59	If you save it in there we can open it up from here .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	823.87	Um , what I've done with it , I'm sorry .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	836.13	Shit .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	843.19	Um I'm just closing it now .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	855.56	Are you finding it okay or ?	agenda/equipment issues
-D	859.67	where I've saved it .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	861.18	Well like if you go to one , uh whichever one you were working yeah , and you just click file save as .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	865.05	that's it there , yeah .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	876.52	Oh right .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	879.22	Okay .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	886.28	Uh , right I'm responsible for working design , uh , this is basically the inside going on of the the uh remote control .	industrial designer presentation
-D	896.0	So we have the energy source , we have the user interface , this this is what I've seen .	industrial designer presentation
-D	900.7	Uh the sender will push the button , the chip will respond , uh and then the dig digital signal is sent to the T_V_ .	industrial designer presentation
-D	909.49	So uh uh , if you go to next slide , you'll see you'll see uh what do we need on the user interface .	industrial designer presentation
-D	918.67	Do we need uh many buttons , or do we need l many light bulbs that could be easier to uh to realise which appliances are on or not .	industrial designer presentation
-D	929.12	Um , , or would that take too much power , would we need more um components in there to supply the power ?	industrial designer presentation
-D	936.85	Um , the joystick is another thing , if we were gonna add that , um , there'd be more components to deal with that .	industrial designer presentation
-B	945.25	Mm-hmm .	industrial designer presentation
-D	945.64	Um , so uh we need to I dunno exactly what That's the design of the the the layout of the uh electronic design , but um obviously there'll be more details once we've decided what we're putting on the user interface .	industrial designer presentation
-B	966.96	Okay .	industrial designer presentation
-D	967.27	So , that'll be decided , I guess .	industrial designer presentation
-D	971.74	Uh , and the next slide .	industrial designer presentation
-D	974.47	Oh , yeah Um , if you go to the next slide then .	industrial designer presentation
-B	979.25	Oh .	industrial designer presentation
-B	979.42	Yeah .	industrial designer presentation
-D	979.51	I just used the it was a mess , uh I was just putting adding it together at the end there .	industrial designer presentation
-B	985.51	Ah , don't worry about it at all mate .	industrial designer presentation
-D	985.83	Uh Uh so you have the energy source obviously connected to the chip , and the user interface obviously contains everything .	industrial designer presentation
-D	995.08	You have the switch turn it on , infrared bulb , uh will contact the T_V_ and will have whatever device or D_V_D_ player , the bulb will turn on to say it's on .	industrial designer presentation
-D	1007.4	Uh , so do we need on the control uh different buttons to decide , or different light bulbs , would it be easier ?	industrial designer presentation
-D	1015.09	Um , I dunno what we should decide on that .	industrial designer presentation
-B	1018.35	Okay .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	1018.94	Well .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	1020.04	Oh sorry , I'm I'm interrupting you .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	1021.58	Are you is it yeah ?	agenda/equipment issues
-D	1021.73	No , it's finished , yeah .	industrial designer presentation
-B	1023.88	Okay .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	1024.83	Right .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	1025.55	Um , right we can probably skip that for now .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	1033.88	So , we've had some stuff put forward , um along with the new user requirements , um we've had a lot of kind of input I'd say so far .	discussion
-B	1048.95	Um I hear what the Marketing Expert's saying about um voice activated control .	look and usability
-B	1057.06	However I've got a couple of worries about that .	look and usability
-B	1060.67	The power required , um and the ability to the cost , it seems like for uh an embedded system , this could cause us issues .	look and usability
-D	1063.32	Cost .	look and usability
-D	1063.98	Mm .	look and usability
-B	1070.28	Um for example you see that there's fairly robust services on uh computers via uh via voice , I_B_M_ do um drag and dictate , but these require a lot of memory and usually um state quite advanced processor requirements .	look and usability
-C	1079.9	Mm-hmm .	look and usability
-B	1087.92	Um voice activation could be an interesting idea but I think that our Ind Industrial Designer would probably upon some research say that it's maybe not feasible .	look and usability
-C	1100.72	'Kay .	look and usability
-B	1101.8	Um that's just my view right now , however the idea of a joystick and then maybe an L_C_D_ which has been kind of put forward so far , it's almost like having a small T_ not T_V_ to say , but if you can control almost all of the functionality from the display , I don't know how much power an L_C_D_ would take , but it might be quite low ?	look and usability
-A	1103.18	Mm .	look and usability
-C	1122.19	Mm .	look and usability
-D	1124.34	L_C_D_ on the remote just telling you what's on , or uh , interactive L_C_D_ or Do you think that people will get mixed up , like , they'll be looking at this screen and that screen and then , you know , trying to get everything working , would it be a bit confusing ?	look and usability
-C	1124.41	I uh Mm-hmm .	look and usability
-B	1128.91	Well literally um if you can imagine the display maybe slightly larger than um those on a a mobile phone , something where you can read an an um fair amount of information , traverse maybe quite a few menus , if we maybe used mobile phones as a good example , they usually incorporate they have the keypad , and then evr all the other functionality is usually associated inside by traversing around .	look and usability
-A	1138.62	Mm .	look and usability
-B	1153.46	That could be one possibility .	look and usability
-B	1155.84	Um and then we could have like say the common buttons as you say , volume control , changing channels We I would agree with you .	look and usability
-A	1160.62	Mm .	look and usability
-A	1163.51	I I was thinking that the remote the um sort of default functions for the joystick would be up and down for uh volume , left and right for channels .	look and usability
-A	1183.07	Um I think probably for the first couple of hours of using it um but you know muscle memory's a wonderful thing , um .	look and usability
-D	1187.97	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1193.87	Mm .	look and usability
-A	1194.24	And I think and I think that size of uh display was about what I had in mind .	look and usability
-A	1199.54	Um though I mean I w I would say that uh we could probably probably be required to um mo most of the mobile phone displays you see these days are colour but we should probably try to stick to black and white .	look and usability
-A	1214.67	Si si simply to keep m keep the unit cost down .	look and usability
-A	1218.14	Um I mean colour could be a sort of subsequent development but uh you know cost a bit of extra money f w w w w w once everyone's got the first , you know , oh colour's out , we'll have to replace it won't we .	look and usability
-B	1230.27	Mm-hmm .	look and usability
-A	1231.73	It does nothing extra .	look and usability
-B	1233.46	That would be my feeling as well , I think we could possibly create quite a useful user interface .	look and usability
-B	1238.74	Um now I mean I don't sorry , go for it .	look and usability discussion
-C	1239.21	Sure but the idea of a remote with a menu or and a joystick I think like I h if I was in the habit of buying remote controls then I would want one , but I think we don't have a specific audience , you know , like what is our target audience , what niche are niche are we trying to market and corner .	user target group
-C	1260.3	You know , you know what I'm saying , like , for whom is this intended ?	user target group
-C	1263.73	Everybody ?	user target group
-B	1268.6	I think it could probably be aimed at most people who've used a mobile .	user target group
-B	1273.34	And that might be just another way of saying try to target most people .	user target group
-C	1276.64	Most people , yeah .	user target group
-B	1277.58	Um , if we are if we were to follow that avenue , we might be s you know um we're kind of almost relying on their experience with a mobile phone I suppose .	user target group
-A	1277.76	Mm .	user target group
-C	1287.74	Mm-hmm .	user target group
-B	1288.23	But that does cover a very large section of the people out there .	user target group
-C	1291.61	Sure .	user target group
-C	1291.92	I think that's fair yeah .	user target group
-B	1293.13	Um , I mean I imagine as well that the actual L_C_D_ and maybe to a certain extent the joystick as well would be for the additional functionality .	look and usability
-A	1293.26	Mm .	user target group
-B	1303.37	Which maybe doesn't get used as often , maybe it makes it easy for them to figure out how to um change the channels as in the frequencies and such for reprogramming it .	look and usability
-C	1314.05	Mm-hmm .	look and usability
-B	1314.68	Um and you can still have the main buttons that allow the people to turn the machine on and off , d up and down , it depends , I mean maybe we have the fol um the joystick as a separate one for the other functions then , that there's just a a small number of as you were saying uh buttons that have already been defined .	look and usability
-C	1332.12	Mm-hmm .	look and usability
-B	1333.13	So like we go for the nice standard um up and down for and volume control .	look and usability
-B	1338.53	So that literally anybody can come along , pick up the remote and still know what do do .	look and usability
-B	1342.74	And they can completely ignore most of the functionality which would be for say the o actual owner of the the T_V_ and who would normally use the unit .	look and usability
-C	1342.88	Mm-hmm .	look and usability
-C	1352.27	Mm-hmm .	look and usability
-A	1352.52	Mm .	look and usability
-B	1352.71	I dunno .	look and usability
-A	1355.5	I th the thing I like about the uh the uh joystick is that uh you you you then basically you can then basically put it I mean for for T_ T_ for T_V_ remote alone , you could put um I mean there are like I say the the the main things people do with a T_V_ remote control is the volume and the channel .	look and usability
-A	1375.68	You can pack all that onto was onto a single control .	look and usability
-B	1378.6	Mm-hmm .	look and usability
-A	1379.15	Um .	look and usability
-A	1380.87	But uh but the but then o uh obviously if uh you know if you i if you wanted to access further functions i you you then get to sort of menu navigation .	look and usability
-A	1392.13	I mean with things like ch with things like tuning and channels um you know adjusting brightn uh brightness and fiddly things that no one really bothers with , most T_V_s these days actually have menus anyway so this would be a fairly rational way of integra integrating the uh the remote with the device it's controlling .	look and usability
-B	1406.83	Mm-hmm .	look and usability
-A	1415.88	Um concern about our market .	look and usability
-A	1421.15	Um , if we are I mean most of the uh of the replacement remote market is sort of remote control rationalisation .	look and usability
-A	1433.67	Um , you've got twenty different devices in your living room , you want one wo y you want one that'll do the job of all of them .	look and usability
-C	1436.68	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1437.7	Mm-hmm .	look and usability
-B	1443.71	Mm-hmm .	look and usability
-A	1443.89	Um , if all you're replacing is one of the you know however many remotes you have in your living room , um you know you still need separate remotes for everything else .	look and usability
-A	1454.34	I just think that uh possibly mm .	look and usability
-B	1455.63	Well this is a requirement that we have to stick to I'm afraid , this isn't one that I've just arbitrarily decided on .	look and usability
-A	1462.02	Mm .	look and usability
-B	1462.1	So um this is this is one of the solid ones that has to be obeyed , for now .	look and usability
-A	1468.85	Mm .	look and usability
-B	1470.11	So I can understand your point , and I would agree with you , but this is our design spec for now .	look and usability
-B	1477.81	'Fraid to say .	look and usability
-B	1479.29	Um I would say so , yes , because then we have to be able to control the remote boxes , and that is a separate unit .	look and usability
-A	1480.82	Does that um would that include um access to say interactive functions on digital or cable ?	look and usability
-C	1487.42	Yeah .	look and usability
-B	1497.12	Um I think that it I would say that the design spec we've been with is for the television only for now .	look and usability
-A	1502.77	Mm-hmm .	look and usability
-B	1502.95	And until we hear otherwise we should go with just that .	look and usability
-C	1503.49	Hmm .	look and usability
-C	1505.35	Okay , specifically television .	look and usability
-A	1506.05	Okay .	look and usability
-B	1506.68	Okay .	look and usability
-B	1507.15	Maybe we'll hear differently , but for now It would be ease of manipulation of certain functions , yes .	look and usability
-C	1509.4	So the joystick is just for differentness .	look and usability
-A	1514.35	Mm .	look and usability
-C	1517.33	Okay .	look and usability
-A	1518.21	Just a thought .	user target group
-B	1518.39	Um There is that possibility , yes .	look and usability user target group
-A	1520.25	Um maybe then our market should be T_V_ manufacturers , rather than the public .	user target group
-A	1527.62	Try and sell it t sell it to them to supply with um Mm , yeah , I've seen them .	existing products user target group
-B	1533.95	B However I don't know exactly where we'll be going with that , but it might not even be the avenue of the Marketing Expert , that might be sales , who are not in this meeting .	user target group
-C	1537.16	Mm .	user target group
-C	1542.12	Mm-hmm .	user target group
-C	1543.72	It's just , the way I figure it , twelve point five Euros per unit , we have to sell at least like three million or something like that , not to account for all the the money we waste on remotes that no one buys , you know , like if we made a perf if we made a ks for every remote we made someone bought it , then we have to sell a lot of remote controls .	user target group
-B	1549.6	Mm-hmm .	user target group
-B	1562.69	Mm-hmm .	user target group
-C	1567.23	We just Is this gonna be enough to to sell ?	user target group
-B	1572.78	Well , something else that you brought up was uh the ability to lose a remote , which as you said you've done , in fact we've probably all done .	how to find when misplaced
-C	1580.53	Yeah .	user target group
-B	1581.3	Um , I don't know if it's a gimmick or not , but have any of you ever seen those odd little key rings where if you whistle , it will beep and you tell you where it is .	existing products
-C	1590.23	I had one of those , and my brother , and my dad , could have beat me up because it it went off all the time accidentally .	existing products
-B	1592.56	Um .	existing products
-B	1597.49	Well the other option of course is that um the well I was going to say clapping , um Um digital telephones , uh for example , one unit has of course you have to have that base unit , somewhere where there's a button , but maybe it's a button that you attach to the T_V_ .	existing products
-C	1599.46	The clapping one .	existing products
-C	1616.44	To a television .	how to find when misplaced
-A	1616.81	Mm .	how to find when misplaced
-B	1617.59	Something which you when you press that , it would beep to give its location away , on the remote unit .	existing products
-C	1623.33	Yeah .	how to find when misplaced
-B	1623.65	And that could be something could um separate us a bit .	existing products
-A	1623.85	Yeah , I think that's a good idea .	how to find when misplaced
-C	1625.73	Yeah , that's a good idea .	how to find when misplaced
-B	1627.86	And that way , because we're attaching what would be a small button to the T_V_ , again say what , it would be a small transmitter , um watch battery type scenario I would say , or something that if it was problems enough you could actually even just um I don't power that might be something that we could look into .	how to find when misplaced
-D	1652.19	Yeah We're just saying volume .	look and usability how to find when misplaced
-B	1652.76	Yep .	how to find when misplaced
-B	1653.59	Yeah , it's uh putting a lot on your shoulders there , so I mean that could be something that separates us a bit from the market as well .	how to find when misplaced
-C	1657.67	I think so , yeah .	how to find when misplaced
-B	1661.1	So .	discussion
-B	1663.4	To go on from here .	discussion
-B	1664.53	Um we have to decide exactly what we're going to do with the remote .	discussion
-B	1668.65	Before we leave this meeting , it would be best to say this is what we're going this is the design we're gonna try and get , this is how we're gonna make ourselves look unique .	discussion
-B	1678.59	Do we go for maybe a remote contro uh sorry , we're gonna go for a remote control obviously , do we go for a small joystick that would operate say changing channels , up and down , and then , what , another button that would say that it's now being used to manoeuvre round the L_C_D_ .	look and usability
-A	1679.04	Mm .	look and usability
-A	1695.42	Mm yeah .	look and usability
-A	1697.77	Yeah , I think that's Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1699.28	Should volume be important in the joystick , do you think ?	look and usability
-B	1702.02	We could use say the left and right for changing channels and the up and down for volume , and Okay .	look and usability
-A	1706.32	For volume .	look and usability
-D	1707.32	Yep .	look and usability
-C	1707.59	But we have a frequency of how what people use a remote control for most .	look and usability
-C	1713.27	Um , power is used like once per hour , channel selection is used a hundred and sixty eight per hour , that's by far the biggest one , and then teletext , is still here , that's like fourteen , and volume selection .	look and usability
-D	1714.53	I Yeah , think so .	look and usability discussion
-B	1720.02	Mm-hmm .	look and usability
-B	1727.62	Vol Volume selection okay , yep , the teletext we're gambling with , and we're gonna say it's dead , the way of the dodo So we well , sorry , we could maybe even go as far as saying power button , small joystick , L_C_D_ , and then what maybe is it one more button to say that you're using the menu system , and with the possibility of pushing down on the joystick to say okay ?	look and usability
-C	1733.14	No , yeah , okay okay .	look and usability
-C	1735.71	Yeah , um Mm-hmm .	look and usability
-B	1756.15	So we're having very very few buttons involved , but navigation around a menu for most things .	look and usability
-A	1760.08	Actually how Actually I would say maybe two two function buttons , the y we're now using the menus button and um and an og and an okay button .	look and usability
-A	1773.43	I mean certainly something I've found with the joystick on mo the joysticks on mobile phones is that a lot of the time th the device mistakes you trying to move it in one direction or the other for pushing down for okay .	look and usability
-B	1773.47	Okay .	look and usability
-B	1786.76	Okay .	look and usability
-A	1786.89	Or vice versa .	look and usability
-A	1787.97	And that's really irritating .	look and usability
-B	1791.22	Um Okay .	look and usability
-A	1791.32	The o the o the other dis design constraint I think we should bear in mind is that people are you know very much used to using a remote control one handedly , um , so we need to make sure that e even with the joystick , you know something that can just sit comfortably in the palm of the hand and have the joystick just controlled by the thumb .	look and usability
-B	1811.22	So um we're actually that sounds like a rough idea .	look and usability
-B	1815.62	Do we incorporate the idea of trying to f locate the remote control again via a beeping noise ?	discussion
-B	1823.15	Do you mind looking ?	discussion
-C	1823.24	Um , I think because it's so small it might be an uh I mean if we only have like two three buttons it might be essential to have to have that Yeah .	discussion
-B	1830.46	The ability to locate it again .	discussion
-B	1833.49	So that would require a um transmitter maybe attached to the T_V_ , just so that it says find me , and what , a basically a small microphone um on the actual unit , can maybe hide it in the base .	discussion
-D	1847.75	Light bulb as well , no ?	discussion
-A	1848.34	Oh .	discussion
-B	1849.22	Sorry ?	discussion
-A	1849.4	So so a small speaker you mean .	discussion
-C	1850.98	Speaker yeah .	discussion
-B	1851.16	Some speaker , sorry , yeah .	discussion
-D	1852.8	And a light bulb ?	discussion
-D	1853.56	No .	discussion
-D	1854.14	To flash .	discussion
-D	1854.74	No .	discussion
-B	1855.75	Um E us we might be better with the sound possibly we could maybe incorporate th e the true fact , considering the cost of an L_E_D_ , we could just incorporate it anyway .	discussion
-D	1856.65	Nah , you'd see it anyway , if you hear it .	discussion
-C	1861.91	W those little key-rings have both , so Yeah .	discussion
-D	1861.91	Yeah .	discussion
-C	1870.3	Yeah .	discussion
-B	1870.32	The L_E_D_s can be surprisingly bright now .	discussion
-C	1872.5	Yeah .	discussion
-D	1872.68	Mm-hmm .	discussion
-A	1873.49	Mm-hmm .	discussion
-B	1873.81	Um .	discussion
-A	1873.9	Blue ones particularly .	discussion
-A	1875.35	Plus that's a nice wee design touch .	discussion
-C	1877.24	Yeah .	discussion
-B	1877.86	So by the sounds of it , with what we're suggesting so far , your design um the user interface is still quite open , you could go for quite an interesting design .	discussion
-B	1888.09	Because we're only going to have a very few key and you've got you know a small L_C_D_ , joystick , e I think it leaves you open to a a potential wide range of shapes , something that can make it stand out slightly .	discussion
-A	1888.16	Mm-hmm .	discussion
-A	1899.51	Mm-hmm .	discussion
-B	1901.14	Um if you could look into what we've suggested so far , the feasibility of um small transmitter , um and such , maybe if an L_C_D_ screen requires too much power , or such .	discussion
-B	1916.66	Ebenezer , um , Marketing Expert If , yeah if you could maybe as well see what people think about the idea of this minimalist approach that we've taken , where of a joystick to control the very basic functions , and then the idea of manipulating it like you would a mobile .	discussion
-C	1920.53	Well I can give you the frequency , what people what options people use most often , I guess that's gonna be important in the ts defining the the software side of the interface , right .	discussion
-C	1931.23	You want the stuff .	discussion
-C	1941.0	Okay .	discussion
-C	1944.93	Okay .	discussion
-B	1945.23	I don't know how easy that will be within the time frame , but could be something we could maybe look into .	discussion
-C	1947.86	Mm-hmm .	discussion
-C	1949.25	Sure .	discussion
-C	1950.34	Sure .	discussion
-B	1951.37	Okay .	discussion
-B	1952.31	Um any last comments that anybody would like to put forward ?	discussion
-B	1955.3	Anything that they think has been missed out .	discussion
-B	1958.44	Bit of a wide open question there of course .	discussion
-C	1963.16	Mm .	discussion
-B	1967.0	Feel free to email me if you think that uh we've screwed something up and wanna get it rectified as soon as possible .	discussion
-C	1973.06	Sure .	discussion
-C	1974.6	'Kay .	discussion
-B	1974.61	Right .	discussion
-C	1975.18	Yeah .	discussion
-D	1975.74	So I should just look at um the speaker , the speaker and an L_E_D_ .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1980.76	And Yeah , and a transmitter .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1980.78	Speaker and L_E_D_ for locating , um , transmitter getting the external power source , yep , that's quite true .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1983.38	Transmitter .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1986.31	Actually one one wee thought about that .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1988.86	Um , if we do end up trying to market this to television manufacturers then the um then the transmitter could actually be built into the television .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	2004.28	Um , and something that we can can easily be adopted at the last minute as well I'd say .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	2010.71	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	2010.82	The electronics could be s either placed externally or internally , makes no difference to the final product of the actual remote control , so that's good .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	2015.17	Mm-hmm .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	2018.75	Uses maybe gives us a new potential market .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	2024.42	Mm-hmm .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	2025.7	'Kay .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	2026.45	You know I think I mean if it w if we get a major television manufacturer to say y oh yeah we'll have that , save us the bother , then that's you know vast amounts of sales .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	2026.57	P Fashion .	new requirements discussion
-A	2036.17	Quite quickly .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	2037.74	Oh , one thing that we've almost not talked about at all , my apologies for that , um , user interface , we also need to maybe get the slogan in here , um it's , I'm pointing at my laptop , what in God Real reaction , and such .	new requirements
-B	2055.62	So um Oh , sorry .	new requirements
-D	2057.23	The slogan is yeah , the slogan's we put the fashion in electronics , isn't it ?	new requirements
-B	2061.66	My apologies .	new requirements
-B	2062.35	No it could well be , I've probably missed that .	new requirements
-B	2064.53	Um , I think that's l almost the last minute thing we can just incorporate into the actual plastic on top .	new requirements
-D	2065.58	'S also look cool .	new requirements
-B	2071.08	So I'm not too concerned a that we haven't gone into depth about that .	new requirements
-A	2071.21	Mm .	new requirements
-B	2075.91	But it might be something you could consider when you're thinking about shapes ?	new requirements
-B	2079.98	In fact we might like to put a slogan on , and um possibly the two R_s to signify the company .	new requirements
-A	2080.4	Mm-hmm .	new requirements
-A	2083.57	Mm-hmm .	new requirements
-B	2086.87	Rather than real reaction .	new requirements
-A	2087.55	Mm .	new requirements
-A	2088.28	Yeah .	new requirements
-A	2088.59	I thought the uh the d the double arc could perhaps uh be the uh the enter button .	new requirements
-B	2095.91	Sounds good .	new requirements
-B	2097.39	And I'd say that that's us for now .	closing
-B	2099.82	Okay .	closing

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-B	11.81	Alright , yeah .	opening
-B	13.27	crack on .	opening
-B	14.5	Okay so we'll start off with a quick overview of the minutes .	opening
-B	19.96	I think to sum up the last meeting , would be to say um the requirements that we've um set out .	opening
-B	27.18	Those are we were going to go for what seemed to be a fairly minimal design based on uh a small joystick , L_C_D_ and a couple of other buttons for navigation um with power being I suppose one of the main single purpose buttons .	opening
-B	48.01	Um we were also going to use novelty of being able to locate the remote control again via a small transmitter with any luck , the idea to try and separate us and also because of the minimal design um looks like we'll be able to be fairly adventurous in the actual physical shape of our remote control with any luck .	opening
-B	68.33	Um that pretty much sums up the last one .	opening
-B	72.06	So we'll just crack on , um like to maybe start with the Industrial Designer if it's possible .	opening
-D	79.67	Uh uh okay .	opening
-B	79.76	Um uh the con today is the concep today .	opening
-D	81.28	I'll just Uh I have a presentation I just saved it in the uh the folder .	agenda/equipment issues opening
-B	84.2	This uh meeting is the conceptual design phase and is um Sorry about this .	opening
-B	95.87	And is to cover things like um what the parts might be made of , um , can we uh outsource these from elsewhere , um will we have to construct any items ourselves ?	opening
-B	111.35	Yeah , okay well I'll just uh I'll load it up then .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	115.34	Um .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	118.79	Which one do y Oh , interface concept ?	agenda/equipment issues
-D	120.33	Uh .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	123.29	Yeah , that's me .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	123.75	Uh .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	123.78	That's you .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	124.89	We've got trend watching , that's you .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	125.66	It's uh Components design .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	129.12	Components design .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	139.27	Okay .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	140.89	Alright .	industrial designer presentation
-D	142.14	So Uh .	industrial designer presentation
-D	146.31	The case uh le that's what I wrote first of all , could be plastic our plastic .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	151.66	Uh but later on we found out that um it can be rubber as well , or titanium or even wood .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	159.26	So uh we decide what it's gonna be .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	161.78	Probably plastic .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	163.17	Uh we need the infra-red transmitter .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	167.63	Get that off the shelf .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	168.75	Uh joystick we'll probably if we're gonna use it , um could be plastic w or rubber even as well .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	177.79	Um if you go on to the next slide .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	181.28	Uh If you go on to f uh findings , it's like two or three slides down .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	189.16	Right .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	189.21	Okay .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	189.43	So , this is what I found we can use .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	193.18	Uh three different types of batteries .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	197.08	Um can either use a hand dynamo , or the kinetic type ones , you know that they use in watches , or else uh a solar powered one .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	208.55	Okay .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	212.16	Um .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	212.27	Now , the kinetic one , we've 'cause that's the ones where like you the movement causes it .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	214.95	Cost is Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	218.4	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	219.48	Um the bat uh the battery for a a watch wouldn't require a lot of power , would be my one query .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	227.36	Is a kinetic one going to be able to supply enough power ?	components, materials and energy sources
-A	227.38	Mm .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	232.63	There's also a watch moves around a great deal more .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	232.72	Do you think ?	components, materials and energy sources
-D	232.85	Uh .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	235.6	W Which I suppose as well would allow us to go off the shelf again , you'd say ?	components, materials and energy sources
-D	236.02	Yeah , I don't think it would .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	236.16	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	238.74	Um .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	241.56	And solar cells , I dunno about that .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	245.15	yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	245.79	Uh .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	247.99	We should probably just use conventional batteries .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	252.1	Um , just like in usual remote controls .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	256.45	Um .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	259.56	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	261.2	Um .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	263.27	And these are three different types of or two different types three different types of shapes you can have .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	268.25	Uh one is a flat one , and then more original ones are single curved one or one with a double curved .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	275.1	Um the materials are tha there as you can see , but uh you can't have a titanium one for a double curved , uh which would be Yeah , and light .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	282.84	Titanium , the really strong metal , titanium ?	components, materials and energy sources
-C	286.24	Is it not also it's expensive ?	components, materials and energy sources
-D	288.37	Uh , i think so as well , yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	290.83	They make mountain bikes out of that , don't they .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	290.98	Um .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	292.72	Um .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	293.1	So it's really light as well .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	294.48	Curious .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	295.22	Um , I don't know if you'd be able to off the top of your head or not , the single curved and double curved , would you be able to give an example ?	components, materials and energy sources
-D	302.3	Um .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	302.95	Um could you maybe draw something ?	components, materials and energy sources
-D	304.36	T yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	305.46	I you don't doesn't have to be perfect , it's just 'cause I'm not quite sure if I understand the difference between the two .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	310.46	Uh .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	313.76	Well for a curved , well I was thinking to f for to sit in your the palm of your hand .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	322.25	Uh maybe like this , with the uh joy pad here .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	326.75	Joystick here .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	328.18	And maybe um an okay button around here , so that the thumb can uh use it quite easily .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	337.88	Um I don't exactly Double curved .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	343.14	It probably means this is probably double curved .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	345.9	Uh whereas a single curved would be like that .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	352.58	I guess .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	354.61	Or not necessarily .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	356.23	So it might literally just be okay .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	357.88	Two curves .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	360.87	Yeah like that .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	361.87	Whereas this is two curves .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	363.6	Um so I guess that's what they mean by uh double curve .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	367.37	Alright .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	370.24	Um which obviously it looks better than the single curve , but uh you can't have it in titanium , which is uh a nice material .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	383.02	Mm .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	383.19	Uh and for the buttons , um it can have the scroll wheel which they use in mouses for com P_C_s .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	392.79	Uh but um it requires a more expensive chip to use , and if you wanna use L_C_D_ it's even more expensive .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	404.53	So you have to decide , there's trade-offs there .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	407.81	Um if you want the buttons to be oh yeah , if you have a double curve uh control and it's rubber , then you have these rubber buttons as well .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	417.88	But you're gonna ha I reckon you're gonna have to have uh key a number keypad anyway for the amount of channels these days .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	426.92	You wouldn't want to just have to scroll through all the channels to get to the one you want .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	430.04	You wanna enter just the number of it , if you know it .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	432.49	So um I reckon we're gonna have to have a number keypad anyway .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	439.84	Do you think ?	components, materials and energy sources
-B	441.2	Okay , that was definitely something we can talk about .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	447.45	Um so you've got a little bit about the the chip that we might require as well ?	components, materials and energy sources
-D	452.61	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	455.03	So , depends where gonna spend the money if you want the f fancy L_C_D_ display .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	468.42	Um , do you have any idea so far , like when we're saying that we'd need an advanced chip for an L_C_D_ , does that in shoot the cost up by a drastic amount ?	components, materials and energy sources
-B	478.46	Or ?	components, materials and energy sources
-C	478.79	Need an advanced chip for the L_C_D_ .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	481.18	Is that did I Advanced , like three eight six advance .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	482.35	Well I think compared to say just pressing buttons .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	483.01	Yep .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	487.25	if you press a button that sends a certain transmission through the infra-red , whereas I think if we're controlling the L_C_D_ we definitely require a much more powerful chip .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	497.42	Okay .	industrial designer presentation
-B	497.65	Just compared to the chip you would use for pushing buttons I think is the the point being made .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	501.64	Okay , sure .	industrial designer presentation
-A	502.54	Mm .	industrial designer presentation
-B	502.83	If I've not over-stepped .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	504.52	Yeah ?	components, materials and energy sources
-D	504.57	Yeah i Um Uh the previous slides just explain what's in the internal components of the uh remote control .	industrial designer presentation
-B	506.3	Okay , um should I go on , or go back ?	industrial designer presentation
-C	512.8	Mm , if we only have twelve Pounds fifty , twelve Euros , not even twelve Pounds .	project budget
-C	518.45	Twelve Euros , what's that , like eight pounds or something like that , nine Pounds ?	project budget
-B	522.3	Well we'd also be relying on the um the bulk buying in producement and such .	project budget
-C	527.8	Okay , that's good point .	project budget
-B	528.34	I assume .	project budget
-B	529.27	We have to look into the costs of those .	project budget
-B	531.48	So , sorry .	project budget
-D	539.64	If you go to the one before that uh so it just says what it does , translate the key press into an infra-red signal and this is received by the T_V_ .	industrial designer presentation
-D	548.6	Uh the chip just needs to detect the signal or detect the key press and then uh it'll send it to the tr the amplifier .	industrial designer presentation
-B	557.05	Okay .	industrial designer presentation
-D	558.87	And uh then the next slide just shows how the uh copper wires uh interact with the buttons , the rubber buttons , uh to uh get sent to the chip .	industrial designer presentation
-D	575.5	So that's just how the control works inside .	industrial designer presentation
-D	580.49	Um we have to decide on what buttons we're gonna use .	industrial designer presentation
-B	586.45	Okay .	industrial designer presentation
-B	587.88	Um .	industrial designer presentation
-B	595.17	So in the information that you've been supplied , how feasible would you say that the idea of using an L_C_D_ looks ?	discussion
-D	605.32	Um I think we can do it if uh we use conventional batteries and not have solar cells or kinetic .	discussion
-D	614.97	Um and then maybe use single curved uh case .	discussion
-D	623.94	Because we might need it to be curved for the uh thumb to use the joyst joystick easily .	discussion
-D	630.74	Um and then you'll need the advanced chip obviously for the L_C_D_ .	discussion
-B	638.57	Um I mean that sounds like quite a good requirement to me .	discussion
-B	641.47	Um conventional battery would seem to make sense .	discussion
-B	644.45	Um I'm not sure if there's any cost differences between single and double curved and I'm I don't know about anybody else , but plastic or rubber as a traditional form of casing would seem to be a good way forward ?	discussion
-A	644.62	Mm-hmm .	discussion
-A	656.71	Mm .	discussion
-A	658.21	Um I'm actually gonna be bold and go oo go straight for rubber um for reasons I'll go into uh in more detail .	discussion
-B	665.99	Okay .	discussion
-C	666.85	I also have a preference for rubber .	discussion
-B	669.34	Okay , well um Yeah , well will we move on to user interface , and yeah ?	agenda/equipment issues discussion
-C	670.91	Based on my research .	discussion
-B	678.41	Um sorry , as long as were you ?	agenda/equipment issues
-A	679.24	Mm .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	680.53	Yep I'm finished .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	680.84	Yeah .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	681.11	Okay .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	683.5	Um and d d d interface concept .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	688.45	Yep .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	688.99	Now I'm gonna have to work between the uh the slides and the uh and the white board 'cause I actually I have some fairly concrete things this time .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	695.5	Yeah .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	703.19	Uh um I was given a an H_T_M_L_ file giving um various ideas from uh from other previous remote control designs , and pretty much decided to just dump them all .	interface specialist presentation
-A	715.14	I wasn't very impressed by them and they didn't seem to re uh nothing I saw seemed to meet the sorts of design specifications that we're going for today .	interface specialist presentation
-A	723.34	Um so what I ra rather than looking at other remotes , uh ra oomp be better to simply look at the human hand .	interface specialist presentation
-A	731.03	Um and try and f um and try and figure out a way of laying out the elements we've already decided on , um so that if r a if so that the finger is e each finger or thumb is wherever it needs to be already .	interface specialist presentation
-A	744.79	Um so uh next slide , if you please .	interface specialist presentation
-A	749.84	Um and what we've basically decided on was the the um the joy uh the joystick , two function buttons and the L_C_D_ , just keep it paired down to the absolute minimum .	interface specialist presentation
-A	761.18	I don't actually think we need the um the numeric keypad because if you m because one of the menus that we could have available um v via via the L_C_D_ is one where you scroll through channels , so if there's something f and be bear in mind since this isn't meant to work for um f f f for di for digital or um or for or for cable , whatever , you're basically looking at four or five terrestrial channels , and then um your V_C_ uh and then the channel through your V_C_R_ and or D_V_D_ player .	look and usability
-C	783.55	digital .	look and usability
-D	784.06	Ah , okay .	look and usability
-A	801.38	And or um box .	look and usability
-A	805.58	So it's not I'm not really excessively concerned about that .	look and usability
-A	809.42	You must have two two modes , basic mode , where um the joystick's uh left right left right for channels , up down for volume , um and the uh uh and the menu mode for uh further functions .	look and usability
-A	824.28	Um now the reason I was particularly interested in using rubber for this is that if we're going to have a highly ergonomic design , um it needs to be ergonomic for left or right handed people .	look and usability
-A	835.7	Um , so you Mm-hmm .	look and usability
-B	836.67	Can I just jump in slightly there ?	look and usability
-B	838.75	That would suggest the double curved design's probably going to be most appropriate , then .	look and usability
-A	842.64	Yes , absolutely .	look and usability
-B	843.83	okay .	look and usability
-A	844.29	Um , basi basically what I basically what the what be having um , I would say , the the whole thing articulated at two points , so that if you if you're handing it from a lef uh left or right handed user you can adjust it so that the um the L_C_ the L_C_D_ and the uh The joystick would be in the right place .	look and usability
-A	872.25	And also this is a rather nicer de uh design gimmick that the the um you know the whole thing you know it should have sort of organic feel to it that it should be , you know , soft to touch and can be moved around all nice .	look and usability
-B	872.41	Mm .	look and usability
-A	889.21	Um okay on to on to the next uh to the next slide .	look and usability
-B	889.65	Okay .	look and usability
-B	890.17	Um , yeah .	look and usability
-B	894.93	Just to let you know we'll probably be quite tight for time as well , because I think you've probably got a lot you'd like to say , I guess .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	898.02	Okay .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	900.95	Yeah , 'kay basically um I can add pretty pictures to this .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	910.34	The um Assuming the hand the hand to be in about sort of this position , um hol uh holding the remote , the um the joystick unit should rest over the uh the joint of the f of the uh four finger so that it's directly accessible for the thumb .	interface specialist presentation look and usability
-A	933.44	Um and it would need t there would need to be a it would need to be articulated just below that so that it could be switched around for uh left or right handed users .	look and usability
-A	942.92	So .	look and usability
-A	950.71	You then have a grip section that can be more or less the same irrespective of handedness .	look and usability
-A	959.04	You just have big two big buttons that cover most of the area so it can in the upper part , one for the four finger , one for the middle finger .	look and usability
-A	967.78	Um , and that Th this part here is the joystick .	look and usability
-C	968.22	Is this the joystick ?	look and usability
-A	973.41	This would be the actual grip .	look and usability
-A	975.84	Probably where you'd want to have the battery as well .	look and usability
-C	979.07	Okay .	look and usability
-A	979.59	That would be probably the bulkiest part .	look and usability
-A	982.31	And you then have , at the uh at the bottom , the L_C_D_ , and this would need to be articulated as well .	look and usability
-A	989.7	And basically I'd want this to rest here , right at the base of the wrist .	look and usability
-A	994.08	So it would fit just nicely in the hand .	look and usability
-A	995.91	And again , this part could be rotated , so it can So so so that it can be adjusted to either left or right handed user .	look and usability
-A	1013.14	Um So the t uh the top function button in basic mode would be the on off switch and menu mode would be the enter button .	look and usability
-A	1024.81	And then the bottom function buttons switches between between modes .	look and usability
-A	1028.52	Um now programming it actually thi this is one thing I've found with um the replacement remote control .	look and usability
-A	1035.66	Programming them can be a right pain .	look and usability
-A	1038.33	So I thought th the simplest way around that would be to have um a cable to connect it to the computer some some fair iv fairly fairly simple software on the computer just so that you on your computer just so that you could um pr program it at a rather in a rather more comfortable interface .	look and usability
-A	1057.41	And you could download programs for it from uh for uh T_V_s from all sort of main manufacturers .	look and usability
-A	1065.52	Um though you i it would be necessary to have uh have a m uh have a ha have a mode for programming it without the computer , uh just in case there are there are still people left out there who don't have them yet .	look and usability
-C	1082.48	Mm .	look and usability
-A	1082.6	Um .	look and usability
-A	1084.5	But uh .	look and usability
-A	1085.46	Yeah .	look and usability
-B	1089.1	Okay .	interface specialist presentation
-A	1089.33	That's that's my idea .	interface specialist presentation
-B	1093.27	Excellent , right .	interface specialist presentation
-C	1093.62	Mm .	interface specialist presentation
-B	1094.33	Um uh .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	1097.36	'Kay .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	1099.07	File open .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	1100.21	We go .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	1101.97	Trend watching .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	1105.51	Okay .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	1109.36	So uh to gather my research , two basic methods .	trendwatching
-C	1113.88	We compared uh whether people want the remote control to do a lot of stuff or they want it to look cool .	trendwatching
-C	1120.55	And then we we research uh fashion trends in Europe , what's what's the new black , you know , as it goes .	trendwatching
-C	1127.95	Next slide please .	trendwatching
-B	1128.64	Okay .	trendwatching
-C	1130.02	Uh we found , in order of importance , people want the remote control to look cool more than they want it to to be cool .	trendwatching
-C	1137.52	As in they want it to do a lot of good s they want it to look like it does a lot , and if it does do a lot that's a bonus , but they don't care so much , you know .	trendwatching
-C	1146.21	They want it to be that's sounds a bit like a contradiction .	trendwatching
-C	1150.1	Technology technical technologically innovative .	trendwatching
-C	1155.12	People want it to be that , but s still they care more about the way it looks than what it does .	trendwatching
-C	1160.43	So like the interface is really important .	trendwatching
-C	1163.72	And easy to use , it it just so happens that uh from the second point to the third point is twice as important I mean the second point is twice as important as the third point .	trendwatching
-C	1174.69	People want it I is it has to be cooler than easy to use , you know , if it has the newest features , even if it's difficult to use , prefer it to have the newest features .	trendwatching
-C	1186.78	And if it's easy to use that's a bonus .	trendwatching
-C	1189.42	The fashion , now this is seems a bit odd to me , but fruit and veg is the new is the new black for furniture , for clothes , for shoes .	trendwatching
-C	1198.43	How that relates to a remote control I don't know .	trendwatching
-C	1201.02	But I I see I come on to that in the next in the next slide .	trendwatching
-C	1205.1	Spongy .	trendwatching
-C	1205.97	I've als I've been saying everything's the new black .	trendwatching
-C	1207.79	Well spongy's the new black as well .	trendwatching
-C	1209.56	So we have the choice between rubber and plastic .	trendwatching
-C	1212.32	If it's the type of rubber that you can squeeze , you know , it's spongy , then can I skip the rest ?	trendwatching
-D	1217.13	Oh yeah , I forgot to mention that .	trendwatching
-D	1218.52	The uh rubber material is the type of stress ball material , not just normal rubber .	trendwatching
-C	1223.32	Okay .	trendwatching
-C	1225.25	Okay , so kinda spongy material .	trendwatching
-D	1225.59	Forgot to say that .	trendwatching
-C	1229.02	So um so my personal opinion ?	marketing expert presentation
-B	1229.46	Okay .	marketing expert presentation
-C	1234.97	Um we want something fancy and techni technologically innovative , obviously .	look and usability
-C	1240.92	But what we what we need is something that looks like it's from the future that looks cool , that's that's different , you know , that's everyone has a white remote control , black remote control , you need something cool .	look and usability
-C	1251.82	Like , titanium is cool but it's expensive .	look and usability
-C	1254.57	And maybe it's a bit of overkill for a remote control .	look and usability
-C	1258.59	Um now the fruit and veg options , either we we go in that direction or we stay totally away from it .	look and usability
-C	1265.16	Um I mean the research did come up with fruit and veg , so maybe it is important for it's the up to the interface guy .	look and usability
-C	1271.93	So if we stay away from it , s you know stay away from it , but if we're gonna go along with it then it doesn't necessarily have to be like an apple or something like that , or a kiwi fruit .	look and usability
-C	1282.84	It could be something like , I say potato peeler but I'm sure you guys have a have a much cooler idea than I do .	look and usability
-C	1290.06	So I think cool is the key .	look and usability
-C	1292.77	Few questions about a spongy remote control .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1296.17	I've never seen one before .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1297.2	I've seen plastic remote controls .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1299.35	I think maybe they were I don't know , back in the day when they first came up with remote controls , they had a reason for it being sturdy , you know .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1307.55	Mm-hmm .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1310.35	For being strong and sturdy .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1311.98	So um if we want something strong and sturdy , I say stay with plastic or titanium , but if we go with spongy , we can stress that you can drop this as many times as you want , it doesn't matter , it's spongy material , it's not gonna break , you know .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1325.48	I just don't know how the L_E_D_ and the lights are gonna fit into a spongy material because it's not gonna be completely squeezable .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1334.0	So how do things fit it ?	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1335.68	And if we are gonna use spongy , we can say it's long lasting , you know it's damage resistant and stuff like that , so .	marketing expert presentation
-C	1344.35	So just to summarise , people want stuff that's cool , that's that looks like it's cool , and if it is cool then that's a bonus doesn't have to be um people like fruit and veg .	marketing expert presentation
-C	1356.16	We can either go down that alley or stay totally away from it .	marketing expert presentation
-C	1360.04	People like spongy material .	marketing expert presentation
-C	1361.15	If we're gonna use spongy material we have to think of how practical it is , and how we can further promote that idea .	marketing expert presentation
-C	1367.07	And also , this was this year .	marketing expert presentation
-C	1369.47	So , things change all the time , every year you know they they always talk about this year , this is the new black .	marketing expert presentation
-C	1375.63	Well next year something else is gonna be the new black and we're stuck with last year's fruit and veg type stuff .	marketing expert presentation
-B	1377.2	Mm-hmm .	marketing expert presentation
-C	1381.99	'Kay .	marketing expert presentation
-B	1382.3	Okay .	marketing expert presentation
-C	1383.46	That's me .	marketing expert presentation
-B	1387.56	Well , um I would say that the most you could probably hope for is gaining a year's lead on most people anyway .	discussion
-B	1393.36	You always have to bring out new designs , so if we can get next year then that's possibly a good place to start anyway .	discussion
-A	1400.4	Mm-hmm .	discussion
-B	1400.77	Um .	discussion
-B	1408.39	Seems like a a lot of the components could be off the shelf , so I don't exactly what cost would be incurred .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1414.9	Um I can see your point about the number keypad , but I've I would say that we can probably incorporate it into the menu system if you need to do traversal of a large number of channels .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1424.1	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1424.41	Mm-hmm .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1427.97	My feeling would be that even if at a later date this was to be taking control of um boxes as well um having the use of the L_C_D_ and the joystick would probably allow you to manipulate enough channel numbers for you to be Mm-hmm .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1440.49	Yeah , actually if you've got a lot of channels , the number keypad can be quite annoying as well , becau it's you know if you're trying to remember what uh , you know , what number's the discovery channel or whatever .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1452.98	It's just irritating .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1453.17	That's a good point .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1453.94	You can incorporate names into the menu .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1454.31	But if you h but but but if you have a me but if you have a menu structure , then you can sub-group them .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1458.97	Okay .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1459.57	So you Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1459.57	Even news , music .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1459.74	Okay .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1461.57	Like they do on uh sky digital kinda .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1464.34	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1465.56	So what it looks like to me is we'll use a large number of standard components , um , say something like um lithium ion battery , the kind that you find in most um small hand held devices now .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1480.78	Um Looks like we going for a double curved design .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1485.53	Um I don't know what cost implications there are in that .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1488.84	Um , looks like we're pretty much decided on some kind of flexible rubber .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1494.43	Though I'd have to say depending on how flexible it is , we might need to have some kind of inner frame .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1500.91	Yeah , I I would say definitely , I mean I mean I mean the the idea of having it sort of articulated i th there would be basically two points of articulation .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1513.07	W um one below and one above the m the uh the main sort of grip .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1519.28	Do you think there's any way we could maybe remove the articulation ?	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1519.75	So Mm .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1523.02	I can see why it looks appealing , but it could be a weak point in um the structure , do you think ?	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1529.66	That would be a worry of mine .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1531.41	If you're going with the fruit and veg thing , looks like a banana .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1535.45	F if you wanna design it that way .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1537.91	I d I don't thi I don't think that it would be a a structural weakness , I mean if you have a firm s sub-structure , you can then incorporate articulation into that .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1546.77	If you then have a sort of outer skin of mm flexible , spongy rubber then you have something that is you know very much you know organic , and I think would look rather co I mean mi rather cool .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1561.59	I mean my drawing there doesn't doesn't do it justice , it makes it makes it look more a little bit more like a vibrator than a than a uh than a remote control , but uh .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1570.71	Yeah , we won't add that functionality .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1572.22	Okay .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1572.99	Course not .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1573.49	However , one interesting point is , I don't know how serious you were there , but we if we take some of the ideas why don't we make the damn thing yellow to incorporate the des the colour of the logo ?	look and usability
-D	1583.85	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1587.02	Sure , yeah .	look and usability
-D	1587.05	Okay .	look and usability
-B	1588.51	I dunno .	look and usability
-B	1589.04	It's an certainly a different colour from your average um That's true .	look and usability
-A	1589.45	Mm-hmm .	look and usability
-A	1593.52	Make it harder to lose , as well .	look and usability
-D	1595.79	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1596.38	Sure .	look and usability
-B	1597.89	Was there anything in your research Mm-hmm .	look and usability
-C	1600.21	The noise for when you lose the banana , um f yeah , for when you lose the remote control , it could be like a a monkey noise or something like that , rather than a standard beep beep .	how to find when misplaced
-C	1611.93	Y you know , you lose the monkey the banana , y you lose the banana , you press a button , and you hear like monkey screams or something like that to direct you towards the banana .	how to find when misplaced
-D	1614.83	monkey .	how to find when misplaced
-A	1622.72	I th uh I mean if it I think that's something that could perhaps be programmable , though maybe have monkey as default .	how to find when misplaced
-C	1629.03	S oh , I was gonna talk about the programmable remote control .	look and usability
-A	1629.35	Um .	how to find when misplaced
-C	1633.48	Now I think it'd be cool if you had one remote control that could work with all T_V_s , you know you s you click a button and it finds the frequency that works with your particular television .	look and usability
-A	1643.05	Mm-hmm .	look and usability
-C	1643.34	But why you'd need to program it like as as a standard feature , I I don't know .	look and usability
-A	1647.8	Well basi basically the um for f for uh I mean e each manufacturer will have a partic will have a particular command set that uh the T_V_ responds to .	look and usability
-A	1659.91	It's not simply a matter of frequency .	look and usability
-C	1659.92	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1661.96	So um usually what's done is you have this big booklet full of different possi you'll have all of them sort of programmed in to the uh remote , and you'll have this little booklet of codes you then find your um ma uh find your manufacturer and try the different codes that come under that manufacturer's name 'til you find the right one .	look and usability
-C	1677.26	Mm-hmm .	look and usability
-C	1685.01	Mm-hmm .	look and usability
-C	1688.63	That's because televisions , they don't give the remote control any type of feedback when you send it .	look and usability
-A	1688.76	It's Yeah , that's right .	look and usability
-C	1693.61	Okay .	look and usability
-A	1694.31	So that's that's quite annoying and we probably would still have to do that .	look and usability
-A	1700.51	But if we had um some sort of hook-up to your computer as an option , then if you've got a computer you can avoid that rather irritating thing .	look and usability
-B	1711.57	An interesting point is that if the person doesn't have the computer , we can still make the process easier because instead of having to look up codes , maybe we can have it that one of the options they have is that they look up the name of the company on the L_C_D_ and then they maybe look up different names of um different actual units that have been produced .	look and usability
-A	1726.19	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1728.43	Yeah .	look and usability
-B	1733.49	Or we have the remote control just go through them until it's like does this do the correct function , and such .	look and usability
-C	1738.91	Is it is it actually a book of names to digits , or is it like a few pages ?	look and usability
-A	1743.87	Um booklet .	look and usability
-A	1745.79	Some pages .	look and usability
-C	1747.12	I was just thinking , if we were to store this information , some type of mapping .	look and usability
-C	1751.81	This person probably need to use this feature like once , you know , when you first buy the remote control , or whenever they buy a new television , so once every s Yeah , and it's Mm .	look and usability
-A	1759.26	Yeah .	look and usability
-B	1759.44	Doesn't have to be used very often that's right , yeah .	look and usability
-A	1761.92	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1762.39	But it's a but it's a nuisance .	look and usability
-A	1764.2	And it's a nuisance very close to the to um to actually purchasing it , so it's something that you're likely to be thinking about .	look and usability
-A	1772.19	If you if there's w i if there's one in the shop that's that says it can avoid much of that nuisance , you might be favourably inclined towards it .	look and usability
-C	1780.27	Mm .	look and usability
-A	1782.72	Um mm .	look and usability
-B	1787.41	Okay , this just to give us a rough idea of what we're meant to be doing for the next stage .	closing
-C	1790.3	Mm .	closing
-B	1792.85	I'm pretty sure that you got that anyway .	closing
-B	1795.56	This is the conceptual one .	closing
-B	1797.48	Um .	closing
-B	1799.58	I think we've come up I think we've covered everything we need to here .	closing
-B	1803.72	Um I think we've decided on what , you know , decided on standard items for most of um rubber and such , so we're now looking at the detailed design and what we need to be doing for the next meeting .	closing
-B	1814.64	Um So for example , um I'll just start at the top , you've got yourself and the Industrial Designer gonna be working quite closely at this stage 'cause it'll be hard not to , obviously .	closing
-B	1828.87	Um looking from prototyping of some des description using clay .	closing
-B	1838.57	Um I suppose you'll be told a lot more about that as uh progress .	closing
-B	1843.12	Um The user interface design , They're kind of it looks they're the idea I've pushed forward so far is maybe more of a physical one there , whereas possibly be more interested in maybe how the L_C_D_'s going to incorporate , do you think ?	look and usability closing
-B	1862.99	Or do you s perceive that most the design design decisions still need to be based on the physical layout ?	look and usability
-A	1863.05	Mm .	look and usability
-A	1869.68	Um well I I think other than ge getting a sort of more aesthetically pleasing form for it , um mo most of the sort of layout design decisions are are made , I would say .	look and usability
-A	1887.6	Um but then again , the um the menu structure to to a considerable extent that's gonna vary according to the model of television , and also any customisations that the user might wish to incorporate .	look and usability
-A	1903.17	So um and one of the nice things about having an L_C_D_ and a menu structure is that there is that flexibility to it .	look and usability
-B	1912.06	Mm-hmm , that's very true .	look and usability
-B	1915.42	Um .	discussion
-B	1918.03	Okay .	discussion
-B	1919.6	Um got product evaluation as well .	discussion
-C	1922.17	Yeah , you see I don't some of these things kinda logically follow the others .	discussion
-B	1922.23	Um .	discussion
-C	1927.5	How can t product evaluation , doesn't that come after actually seen a product prototype .	discussion
-B	1933.7	I I think we'd be yeah , no , it'd be more a case of how do we envisage us performing the product evaluation once we have a model to test with .	discussion
-C	1944.18	Oh , that's the okay , sure sure sure .	discussion
-B	1945.76	Um so it'd be a case of do you think that just bringing users in to have them test it out , uh maybe putting a certain number of products into the field in certain places which I suppose is quite similar .	discussion
-C	1955.88	Mm-hmm .	discussion
-B	1957.58	Or just kind of hitting the streets and you know saying this is a new remote control , what do you think of the look of it ?	discussion
-C	1964.22	Okay , sure .	discussion
-B	1965.44	Um I think the target audience is pretty much anybody under the age of say maybe sixty or something ludicrous .	discussion user target group
-C	1967.89	At this stage we still have no no target audience or 'Kay .	user target group
-B	1981.73	Um the reason I'm saying that is we're just looking at a a replacement remote control , something that's stylish , so maybe you're even just maybe you're narrowing down your target audience simply by saying if they're buying it that often or they're maybe looking to replace something then , they've got a bit of free cash , so that puts them potentially in the younger age bracket .	user target group
-C	1992.85	And it's stylish .	user target group
-C	2002.5	Mm-hmm .	user target group
-B	2003.43	Maybe even single , just for the reasons of um uh excess cash flow .	user target group
-C	2008.97	Mm .	user target group
-B	2010.86	Although of course I mean at twenty five Euros , I don't think we're looking at charging the earth for the uh device .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	2015.07	Yep .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	2015.68	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	2016.16	Think that's well within the normal bracket .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	2016.34	Okay .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	2018.0	Um your idea of the U_S_B_ would I think would largely depend on the cost .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	2023.42	U_S_B_'s definitely one of the cheapest interfaces out there , but it might push the cost of the overall unit up 'cause it would require not just the connection but the chip for communicating with the rest of the system .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	2037.11	That one might have to be based on The the idea was that maybe it could connect up for um allowing a software interface on the P_C_ for a larger programming due to the fact that we've gone for such a nice , easy minimal design , normally .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	2037.33	Programmable memory as well .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	2039.17	The U_S_B_ for which ?	components, materials and energy sources
-C	2040.66	For the remote control .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	2047.62	Oh right , okay .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	2054.66	We've w definitely talking some type of Different .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	2055.0	Um .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	2057.5	But didn't they just say it's just for T_V_ , or are we gonna Okay , yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	2060.74	It's just for T_V_ , but for programming it to use your T_V_ , you might hook it up to the P_C_ .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	2068.26	I I'm not sure , but I'm thinking maybe that the additional cost of the U_S_B_ might be prohibitive .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	2074.31	Mm .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	2074.34	We don't know unless it would make sense to .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	2076.84	But you're gonna need some type of flash memory or something .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	2076.91	Yeah , I mean it's Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	2080.64	Well something that doesn't you wouldn't have to redo the whole thing once the batteries are changed , you know , once you turn off the power .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	2085.33	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	2086.23	The other thing I mean it I mean it would need to ha it would need to have um some sort of on board memory anyway .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	2093.24	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	2094.58	Um f for one for one thing because I do think that the menu system should be um uh I mean although you know , it's not going to be terribly complicated if it's just controlling one device , the menu system ought to be um o ought to be customisable and uh Mm-hmm .	look and usability
-C	2113.12	Different languages , uh different skins and stuff like that .	look and usability
-B	2115.93	Mm-hmm .	look and usability
-B	2117.34	W It would make sense to .	look and usability
-A	2117.53	How uh how uh how you want say the um the the menu structure for flicking through channels if you've got lots of channels .	look and usability
-C	2125.38	Sure .	look and usability
-C	2126.1	I if it was customisable as in different languages and stuff , that does open it is supposed to be international , right ?	look and usability
-A	2126.17	That sort of thing .	look and usability
-C	2131.96	So .	look and usability
-C	2134.17	It would make sense if you could Okay .	look and usability
-B	2134.6	I would say to .	look and usability
-B	2135.85	Um and we'd better be careful about the time as well .	look and usability
-B	2139.2	We've already had the five minute warning , so .	look and usability
-B	2141.79	Um .	look and usability
-B	2143.28	I would say yeah .	look and usability
-B	2145.85	International would make sense .	look and usability
-B	2147.67	Um you're gonna look at product evaluation .	closing
-B	2150.05	I'm I'd better start writing up a hell of a lot of crap .	closing
-B	2153.21	Um you're gonna look a bit more at the kind of the physical make up you say .	closing
-B	2157.75	Um looks like we're gonna need a maybe a kind of prototype in clay .	closing
-A	2158.02	Yeah .	closing
-B	2163.14	Uh we'll see how that goes .	closing
-B	2164.57	Um .	closing
-A	2165.05	Are we going to be supplied with the clay is what I want to know .	closing
-A	2167.86	Where is the clay ?	closing
-B	2169.23	So um do I think we've got an idea of where we need to go for the next meeting , would you say ?	closing
-C	2175.16	Yeah .	closing
-A	2175.96	Mm-hmm .	closing
-D	2176.44	they're going with the fashion thing , like the design , spongy rubber .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	2179.41	The fruit and veg .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	2181.42	This one .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	2182.24	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	2182.34	Mm .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	2182.55	Yeah , I would s that would be my my feeling .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	2185.29	I th I think I would largely want to actually steer clear of the whole sort of fruit and veg thing .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	2191.19	Bu but um but the spongy idea I like .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	2196.79	I like it a lot .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	2197.87	We seem to have quite a general consensus that the idea of the the r rubber could be quite Yeah .	look and usability components, materials and energy sources
-C	2197.88	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	2203.11	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	2203.99	I having it i having it sort of br bright yellow I think that's quite a good idea , though maybe we could have options for colours as well .	look and usability
-C	2214.44	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	2215.85	and again this has the advantage of being harder to lose .	look and usability
-C	2219.28	Sure .	look and usability
-C	2219.57	I mean we are trying to promote a remote control , but we wanna keep the company brand as well , so .	look and usability
-A	2224.56	Mm-hmm .	look and usability
-B	2225.32	So we always need to remember that somewhere we're meant to be getting the slogan on .	look and usability
-B	2230.23	Possibly I'm think I'm not sure but I'm seeing a little bit of space around maybe the joystick area which could be used .	look and usability
-A	2235.23	Mm .	look and usability
-A	2236.92	Yeah .	look and usability
-B	2236.99	Um .	look and usability
-A	2237.48	I was like like I said before I I think we should have the R_R_ on the uh on the top function button .	look and usability
-B	2245.62	Okay .	discussion
-B	2246.67	And I think that says it all really .	discussion
-C	2248.02	I think so too .	discussion
-B	2249.43	Right .	discussion
-B	2250.33	See everybody in a half hour .	discussion

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-B	0.04	That should hopefully do the trick , um .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	16.99	'Kay .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	17.43	Sorry about the small delay .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	20.27	Falling a little bit behind schedule .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	24.44	And that's uh fifteen twenty five .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	34.24	Okay .	opening
-B	35.05	So just to try and roughly go over what we agreed in the last one , um we're gonna go for something uh uh how was it ?	opening
-B	47.08	Uh The new black , I believe .	opening
-B	49.23	Um something that looks good 'cause that seems to be in preference to actual functionality in the end , though we should never avoid functionality , of course .	opening
-B	58.39	Uh many of our components are gonna be standard , off the shelf , but it seemed like we were gonna require at least an advanced chip and we were still very much for the idea of using an L_C_D_ display .	opening
-B	69.33	Um other things were we were hoping to use rubber , most likely gonna be double curved , etcetera .	opening
-B	77.66	Okay .	opening
-B	79.42	So um due to your hard work , we might as well let the uh two designers go first , and uh show us the prototype .	opening
-A	87.07	Okay , it's a I think if we both step up and uh outline our ideas .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	89.22	Quite how the best way to do this is , I'm not sure , but Okay .	agenda/equipment issues presentation of prototype(s)
-A	98.94	Okay .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	100.11	Now do uh doing the prototype gave us a bit more insight into the ergonomics of the design .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	107.66	Um for one thing , it turned out that the only point at which it needs to be articulated for handedness is um is h i is down here for the uh L_E_D_ .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	122.26	As it turned out , the whole thing transfers from the right to left hand fairly well from the point of view of operating the uh function buttons and joystick , though it might be an idea to be able to a adjust the positions for the base of the joystick just a little bit for uh ju just a thought .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	144.5	You could simply have a slightly ovoid shaped joystick that could then just be turn uh twisted round , so that the uh sticky uh so that the bit that sticks out a bit more is on one side or the other .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	158.5	But as you as you see with the uh with holding it in the left hand , the L_ uh the L_C_D_ is nowhere useful , so that would need to be articulated uh if we're going to retain ergonomic design .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	174.1	Um now I I got your note about uh keeping the cost down .	presentation of prototype(s)
-B	180.46	I'm afraid yeah .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	181.26	Yeah .	presentation of prototype(s)
-B	181.79	We'll go into that a bit more , but please go on .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	184.79	this design could be done with um with uh plastic casing .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	194.46	Though I would recommend around the grip part here in the middle , having maybe just a rubber grip over that which would allow for a slightly more sort of bio-morphic form , and a bit more ergonomic as well .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	205.95	As for the um as for the single curve , um well this edge and this edge , like I say it would be nice to have some curvature to it , but it's not absolutely necessary .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	219.51	Really the curve that's most needed is the underside so that the jo so that the joystick rests over the the edge of the hand like this .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	229.65	Um and you have the uh transmitter here and a wee speaker for the uh for the uh for the uh fi uh for the remote control finder .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	241.85	So .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	244.36	Any further comments ?	presentation of prototype(s)
-D	245.79	Um obviously it's gonna be bulkier than how it looks , because it's gonna be flat on one side , so the L_C_D_ will be s sticking down like this , won't it ?	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	254.84	Mm-hmm .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	255.87	Yeah .	presentation of prototype(s)
-D	255.97	'Cause it you can't get it curved .	presentation of prototype(s)
-D	258.64	Uh because of costs .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	258.66	Yeah , I mean the uh Yeah .	presentation of prototype(s)
-D	260.41	And it's plastic as well , so it won't be as comfortable on the hand .	presentation of prototype(s)
-B	264.82	Mm .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	264.93	Yeah .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	265.21	I mean with the with the rubber design it could i you know it could pretty much mould very much to the to the user's hand .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	272.18	One nice wee feature if we could if we could still do the rubber , I though of was to have the uh rubber extend beyond the end of the uh of the rigid substructure .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	285.08	So it has a wee sort of tail that you just drape over your wrist so it stays in position nicely .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	290.31	Mm .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	291.67	Lovely .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	293.0	Um .	presentation of prototype(s)
-D	295.23	Yeah , .	presentation of prototype(s)
-B	298.06	Okay , yeah .	presentation of prototype(s)
-B	298.62	Great .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	299.4	Right .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	300.11	Um .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	301.16	Yeah I've got a if you load up my evaluation document .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	304.2	Yeah , okay .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	305.27	Okay .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	306.68	Excellent work .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	308.07	Mm .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	312.88	Um .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	322.12	Uh evaluation .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	329.94	Basic point uh have a list of criteria that we need to rate the prototype by .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	336.2	Um then we will it's a seven s um seven seven step kinda evaluation process .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	343.84	So um not seven steps , seven scale .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	348.24	So after we've finished doing all the ratings for each criteria , we average that and that will give us some type of uh confidence in our prototype .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	358.19	And uh the criteria based on Real Reactions' kinda goals and policies , marketing strategies , and also those I put together from the user requirements phase .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	372.85	'Kay .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	373.77	Um if you flip the So , those are the criteria .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	382.67	And uh perhaps I could have put 'em a bit better , but you notice a few things that we've totally abandoned , which means that uh the product will score very badly on some of those points .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	396.81	Put it mildly .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	397.97	So we have um true ?	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	402.42	One , t Seven , eight , oh .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	414.58	Fourth .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	415.07	Okay , so we have to go through each point .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	417.72	If we imagine it's actually straight , and just give it a a score .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	421.78	So um how well would you say the prototype is uh how well have we realised the dream of being able to stop remotes from from being lost , or to be able to find them once they are lost .	how to find when misplaced
-C	433.83	I mean , uh is the homing thing still the locator , is that still Sure .	how to find when misplaced
-A	437.83	Yeah , that's still part of the design .	how to find when misplaced
-C	439.97	And Adam , we can keep that in ?	how to find when misplaced
-B	441.76	Yeah , I believe so .	how to find when misplaced
-B	442.97	So I mean I don't think anybody could actually stop a remote being lost , 'cause that would mean doing something about the human element , but I'd like to think that we've done something about finding the damn thing once we have .	how to find when misplaced
-C	443.08	Okay .	how to find when misplaced
-C	449.5	Sure .	how to find when misplaced
-C	451.23	T Sure .	how to find when misplaced
-A	453.73	Mm .	how to find when misplaced
-A	455.47	Mm .	how to find when misplaced
-A	455.78	And making it a bright colour helps with the personally I would have gone for purple .	how to find when misplaced
-C	459.76	Mm .	how to find when misplaced
-C	460.77	Bright colour .	how to find when misplaced
-C	461.37	So we still have that noise thing , yeah ?	how to find when misplaced
-A	463.21	Mm-hmm .	how to find when misplaced
-C	463.71	Os on a scale of one to seven , how would you guys rate it for finding finding it once it's lost ?	how to find when misplaced
-A	471.74	I'd say number one .	how to find when misplaced
-C	473.16	Number one ?	how to find when misplaced
-D	473.2	One .	how to find when misplaced
-D	473.87	Yeah .	how to find when misplaced
-C	474.28	Okay .	how to find when misplaced
-C	474.78	Number number one for the first criteria .	how to find when misplaced
-A	478.31	I think w if it was just the sounder then th I mean something I've found with uh w w with say tr trying to find uh a cordless phone or a m mobile , you can hear it , but you can't quite pin it dow pin down where it is .	how to find when misplaced
-C	495.0	Yeah you can tell what room the mobile is Yeah .	how to find when misplaced
-D	497.78	What about what if the the volume on the T_V_'s turned up massively and uh you just wanna turn down the volume can't find remote .	how to find when misplaced
-A	498.05	Bu Yeah .	how to find when misplaced
-D	508.76	Suppose you have to go to the T_V_ and do it manually .	how to find when misplaced
-D	512.2	Mm .	how to find when misplaced
-B	512.25	Mm .	how to find when misplaced
-C	512.9	Yeah .	how to find when misplaced
-D	513.66	Like y you wouldn't hear the speaker .	how to find when misplaced
-B	513.72	Um just before we go through all of the steps here , um well what we'll do is um if we can look at the criteria you're gonna evaluate , and then we'll come back to the product evaluation if that's alright .	how to find when misplaced agenda/equipment issues
-C	515.78	Mm-hmm .	how to find when misplaced
-C	518.67	You wanna say something ?	agenda/equipment issues
-C	530.29	That's fine .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	530.89	Yeah , is that Um so is there anything here that you that you wanted to cover as in the criteria that you've covered ?	agenda/equipment issues
-C	531.94	Oh that's that's fine .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	544.89	And then we'll come back pretty much promptly to this .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	546.9	What do you mean cr is there anything I wanna Um , a few .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	548.23	I is there any of these criteria that need any explaining ?	agenda/equipment issues
-B	551.01	Or is there anything that yous thought tha really would stand out compared to the others ?	agenda/equipment issues
-C	558.88	Something I neglected from my initial research is that Real Reactions has a a goal strategy that all of the products be inspired by material fashion , and clothing fashion .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	571.47	That is why fruit and veg being popular in the home and in clothing was important and they want all their products to be somehow inspired by current trends in fashion .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	583.33	So they say we put the fashion in electronics , well they really mean it they they're very big on fashion , so .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-B	588.67	Okay .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	590.28	That's this bit right here .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	592.88	And uh this bit is this one easy to use for visitors or for anybody ?	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	599.94	I guess it's just the same as saying easy to use interface , so it's kinda condensed into one .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	605.15	And we can come back to it , you said .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	606.36	So .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-B	606.55	Okay .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-B	607.58	No and which we will do very very shortly .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-B	612.99	Um .	costing
-B	616.92	Okay .	costing
-B	619.82	Slight problem we had was that we have an amazing four Euros over budget for what we were hoping to do .	project budget
-B	628.1	Um most of it stems from the use of the L_C_D_ which I think in the end accounted for about half of our expenditure because of course we required a chip as well .	project budget
-B	639.25	Um the only way to get this down was either to ditch the a L_C_D_ , at which point we've removed a large part of how we were gonna interface , require more buttons , etcetera .	project budget
-B	652.08	Or what we did was that we um we as in I as I was quickly going over it was altering the actual structure .	project budget
-B	660.52	Um changing it to plastic and a solid unit with a single curve design would allow us to come back into the um proposed costs and we're just scraping it in , we've got point two of a Euro left over there .	project budget
-B	673.89	So we're just managing it really .	project budget
-B	676.48	Even then as well , um there was no criteria technically defined for a joystick so I've used what I think's appropriate .	project budget
-B	683.46	With any luck that won't mean that we've incurred more cost than we can actually afford to .	project budget
-B	689.82	It blows a lot of our really good ideas kind of slightly to one side , for example the possibility of having a U_S_B_ connection is definitely not viable now .	project budget
-B	698.61	Um .	project budget
-C	700.45	Different languages ?	project budget
-B	702.23	That should still be viable .	project budget
-B	703.51	We've got an advanced chip , we've got the use of the L_C_D_ .	project budget
-B	705.95	So being able to communicate in multiple languages is still very much a possibility .	project budget
-C	706.77	Yeah .	project budget
-B	711.79	Um but what's something we need to decide on is how we're gonna go from here .	project budget
-B	717.52	We do need to try and come up with an idea which could be continued with other people if need be .	project budget
-B	722.65	Um .	project budget
-B	725.19	We can I can bring the excel up sheet up and uh show you if you wish um .	costing
-B	729.96	I really think as m much as it pains me is that we might have to go with plastic and some kind of solid design , possibly meaning that the L_C_D_ wouldn't be in this perfect place .	costing
-B	741.03	It might be s stuck like slightly between what would be good for left handed and what would be good for a right handed person .	costing
-A	747.22	Mm-hmm I suppose o one thing that could be done is h is have it um circular and have it s so that the uh the pink actually goes a bit over the pinkie finger .	costing
-B	757.49	Okay .	costing
-A	757.95	Mm .	costing
-C	758.48	Mm .	costing
-A	758.99	So that uh th Mm .	costing
-B	760.76	It very much is about making concessions , unfortunately .	costing
-B	763.84	Um .	costing
-C	765.41	Do you have any data on how much um different prints cost ?	costing
-C	769.12	I mean can you get the entire thing printed with a design um ?	costing
-B	774.05	Um b b b da is you mean on the plastic , or ?	costing
-B	777.63	Let's have a look .	costing
-B	779.42	You now have as much information as I do .	costing
-C	781.72	Yeah , yeah .	costing
-B	782.71	Um .	costing
-B	785.19	So as you can see here , for example , the battery really not very little choice in that one .	costing
-B	790.75	We've gone for one of the cheaper options as well .	costing
-B	793.05	Unfortunately we require the advanced chip if we're gonna do what we're needing to .	costing
-B	797.65	I've said single curved .	costing
-B	799.01	We really do need it to be that way for the ergonomics of it .	costing
-B	802.73	Um plastic for some reason incurs no cost , which I've had to very much make advantage of , despite the fact that rubber's only got a value of two Euros per unit .	costing
-B	811.45	Problem comes here as you can see in the interface .	costing
-B	814.63	Um if I've read this thing correctly , then we can save point five of a Euro here in that it's not per push button .	costing
-B	823.06	That might make sense , because then a numeric keypad would come in at um what , four point five Euros , which is an awful lot , so that could well be wrong .	costing
-B	831.84	Even if we save point five there , it would just mean that we're most likely placing it in actually just gaining a colour for the unit , which has had to be put to one side .	costing
-B	840.27	As you can see , the use of an L_C_ display um advanced chip and what would determine the scroll wheel here as well because it's an integrated scroll scroll wheel push button that wasn't quite what I think they had in mind with a joystick .	costing
-C	855.37	Why would why would that be more expensive than an individual push button and scroll wheel together ?	costing
-C	861.16	That's quite significantly expensive .	costing
-B	864.55	I that's something you'll have to take up with the bean counters .	costing
-B	868.81	Um as you can see I mean that's taken up well over half of the price .	costing
-A	869.83	Mm .	costing
-A	870.62	yeah .	costing
-C	874.16	Yeah .	costing
-B	875.03	So um I'm very much open to suggestions of where we go , but because we need to shed what was four Euros off of the um the price of for what we really desired , this one comes in under price as you can see , but this was the one that sacrificed the material for the case and for the actual case design .	costing
-C	899.62	We don't even have uh speakers here .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	901.46	The like uh we uh what about speakers and transmitters and stuff like that ?	components, materials and energy sources
-C	906.05	Have we factored that in ?	components, materials and energy sources
-D	907.05	Mm .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	908.73	Uh no , we haven't , not That'll it literally would just be a button .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	910.81	Transmitter , receiver , speakers .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	914.48	Plus the extra device itself that's gonna be on a T_V_ .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	917.67	Is that gonna be a button , or Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	922.65	That's too expensive isn't it ?	components, materials and energy sources
-B	922.7	We might have to It looks like almost nothing Mm .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	930.47	Oh good call , I missed that .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	932.66	I I mean it's not on here , but um .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	935.2	that's a very valid point .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	938.37	Did they s do we have to use an advanced chip for the L_C_D_ ?	components, materials and energy sources
-D	942.2	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	943.23	Okay .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	943.95	Well that's yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	945.63	So if we're gonna go with the L_C_ display , then that's I believe so , yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	949.67	What's a hand dyna dynamo ?	components, materials and energy sources
-C	951.52	You have to wind it up ?	components, materials and energy sources
-B	956.2	That would probably not be in keeping with the um the fashion statement and such , yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	959.37	Technology .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	960.08	Fashion .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	960.97	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	963.92	Okay .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	963.97	So basically the only new thing is the L_C_D_ on the remote now .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	967.8	Being manipulated by the joystick , yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	969.84	Oh , and joystick , yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	971.71	Which I'm defining as scroll wheel .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	976.2	Um .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	978.12	And we couldn't replace the joystick , right ?	components, materials and energy sources
-C	980.51	Because we would need four extra buttons to replace it , up down left and right , and that would be more expensive than a but is a scroll wheel not just back and forward ?	components, materials and energy sources
-A	986.78	Mm .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	989.49	Yeah it's just because there was no actual definition for what a joystick might be , that that's what I've labelled it for the purposes of this evaluation .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	995.54	So The L_C_D_ basically is the big selling point of the remote .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1001.46	If we remove the L_C_ display , we could save ourselves a fair amount .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1009.57	Which you could It's a shame .	costing components, materials and energy sources
-D	1009.86	But that's what makes it uh original though , isn't it ?	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1011.54	Mm .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1011.86	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1012.71	I think if we remove the the L_C_ display then there was absolutely no point to any of these meetings and we just we could just put our branding on any other remote control .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1022.4	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1023.22	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1023.64	Um .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1024.99	Uh k Does this does this bear in mind that I mean it's a bit ridiculous that they're gonna charge us what is it , like this much money for three million if we're gonna buy three million components , you know .	costing components, materials and energy sources
-B	1028.09	We should possibly have If we could've increased the price we could've manufactured that and we could've got something far closer to what we were hoping to .	costing
-B	1050.59	Again , you'll have to argue with the accountants on that one .	costing
-C	1052.87	Mm .	costing
-B	1053.3	Um but for the purposes of this meeting , I'm we're gonna have to stick with these figures .	costing
-C	1059.07	'Kay .	costing
-B	1061.09	So , I would say that it would seem like the general opinion is we're gonna keep the L_C_ display 'cause it's about what really separates us , despite the cost it's gonna incur .	costing
-C	1068.69	I think so .	costing
-B	1071.39	Um are people maybe not happy with , but are willing to go ahead with this in going for a plastic solid case , to keep the L_C_D_ ?	costing
-A	1084.38	Mm-hmm .	costing
-A	1085.14	Um yeah I mean one thing , I mean ho uh how much extra would it be to to keep I mean keep the um the articulation ?	costing
-B	1095.29	It's hard to tell .	costing
-B	1096.39	Um I would say that you're at least gonna take double curved , and even then I'm not quite sure if that's incorporating the idea of articulation .	costing
-A	1097.9	This is what I'm wondering .	costing
-C	1105.65	Yeah .	costing
-A	1106.02	Oh no , I think I I it d that it needn't require it to be double curved .	costing
-D	1110.68	It can be s yeah , it can still be single curved , but You just .	costing
-A	1112.98	It's uh it's just it's just it's just that the case would come in t would be made in two parts and then joined together with an articulation .	costing
-B	1113.76	Single curved with articulation ?	costing
-C	1121.42	Could we could we not get rid of the curvy the curvous the curvaceousness and focus on the menu being the best interface ?	costing
-C	1130.91	'Cause like we do we have re restrictions on software ?	costing
-D	1133.28	That's what we need for the joystick I think though .	costing
-C	1135.51	Oh but there has to be joystick .	costing
-A	1135.91	Mm .	costing
-A	1136.39	Yeah , I mean and I mean the uh I mean if you look uh if you look closer at the uh at the prototype here , the lines here along the grip are actually quite straight .	costing
-A	1148.23	Um I mean yeah , on the on the L_C_D_ I mean although we've done it with a curve it could just as easily be done um without curves .	costing
-B	1149.48	But the curves all o over hand , is it ?	costing
-A	1159.63	The curve that's really needed is up here , to put uh to keep the joystick in a good ergonomic position for it to have it rest on the top of the hand .	costing
-C	1169.56	Okay .	costing
-C	1170.21	Sure .	costing
-C	1171.32	Okay , my bad .	costing
-B	1174.06	We wouldn't actually save a lot by reducing it anyway , so I mean for the purposes of this meeting maybe we can state that single curve still allows articulation .	costing
-A	1183.31	Mm .	costing
-B	1184.21	Um unless we hear otherwise we could go ahead with that proposal .	costing
-C	1190.42	So I think the product is not gonna perform so well for my criteria .	costing
-B	1196.9	Which is what we can get onto now .	costing
-B	1198.59	As long as so are we gonna say w we have to keep an eye on the time as well , but we're gonna say um single curved design It could well be , but at a cost of Okay , yeah we'll definitely won't go with that one .	costing
-C	1206.05	Oh , wait a minute .	costing
-C	1208.02	Sample speaker ?	costing
-C	1210.3	What is a sample speaker ?	costing
-C	1211.66	Is that somewhat similar to what we want ?	costing
-A	1214.72	Mm no that's that voice response thing that we got the email about .	costing
-D	1216.98	Costs four .	costing
-C	1218.47	Yeah .	costing
-A	1219.54	But I thought it was just completely pointless .	costing
-C	1221.92	You got a email about voice response ?	costing
-A	1223.87	Yeah .	costing
-C	1224.65	I did not , so .	costing
-A	1225.61	Alright .	costing
-A	1226.25	B i basically it was saying that our labs had come up with a chip that you could , you know , say hello to , and it would say hello back in a friendly female voice .	costing
-C	1239.06	We won't go with that one , did you say ?	costing
-C	1241.18	I mean I we Okay , okay .	costing
-B	1241.43	Yeah , that's voice recognition , so .	costing
-B	1246.29	Um .	costing
-B	1248.24	So , okay yeah , battery definitely , It looks like it unless we can manage to put it in under point two Euros , um .	costing
-C	1250.86	So it looks like we're gonna get rid of the whole loca locator thing .	costing
-D	1254.98	Yeah .	costing
-C	1260.1	Okay .	costing
-C	1263.8	Okay .	costing
-B	1264.42	Maybe even slight well oh yeah , pretty much point two Euros , I'd say .	costing
-A	1264.81	Mm-hmm .	costing
-B	1268.9	So we'll leave that one for now .	costing
-B	1270.8	we'll just have It's uh a case of um I'm uh slightly unsure .	costing
-D	1270.85	Are we going for a special colour at all ?	costing
-B	1279.52	One point five of a Euro for one push button doesn't sound quite right .	costing
-B	1282.84	So maybe it's a case of a push button is maybe one or more .	costing
-B	1288.47	Um .	costing
-A	1288.51	Mm .	costing
-D	1289.48	Well I was for a case .	costing
-B	1290.28	At which point if Well you got point five there .	costing
-D	1293.51	Or had you already incorporated that ?	costing
-C	1295.66	Oh , special colour for the case .	costing
-B	1299.32	It's literally a case of whether or not this is correct .	costing
-B	1302.47	I'm not quite sure if they're I don't think they mean point five Euros per button .	costing
-C	1307.18	Mm-hmm .	look and usability
-A	1307.19	Okay , well l let's say that and then we can have our special coloured case and then we at least have make it a little harder to lose .	look and usability
-B	1308.57	So There we go .	look and usability
-A	1315.22	Because most m most remotes are a fairly dingy colour that gets camouflaged under any pile of crap in a living room .	look and usability
-C	1321.16	W what's the default colour ?	look and usability
-C	1322.44	White or black ?	look and usability
-B	1324.48	Black's probably the normal colour you'd say , yeah .	look and usability
-A	1326.14	Or grey .	look and usability
-C	1326.72	Right .	look and usability
-B	1327.98	I quite like that colour that you're fetching there , it's uh definitely for make it glow in the dark even better .	look and usability
-A	1328.58	Yellow .	look and usability
-C	1334.34	Yeah .	look and usability
-B	1336.29	So will we go with that then ?	look and usability
-A	1341.33	Okay .	look and usability
-C	1342.16	Yeah .	look and usability
-B	1342.4	It's not and we can see we'll come back to uh your evaluation which you're probably now going to pan us but there we go .	costing
-C	1345.25	Sure .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	1349.01	Okay .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	1350.33	Okay .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	1351.94	So uh Right okay .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	1353.81	Just to give you an idea , um you want to go maybe a bit quickly as well , I'm not sure how much time .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	1358.67	We've not hit the five minute mark warning yet , but .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	1361.18	Okay .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	1361.82	Think it's ten minutes left .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	1363.51	Ten .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	1363.92	'Kay .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1364.51	Ability to stop remotes from being lost or to find them once they are lost .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1369.38	Um .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1370.31	Okay .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	1370.49	Special colour .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1371.63	Special colour .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-B	1372.87	Mm mm four ?	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1373.7	Uh uh four .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-B	1376.15	Three ?	evaluation of prototype(s)
-B	1376.9	Mm .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1377.65	Three if we're being generous , I feel .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	1377.97	Three .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	1379.09	I think we can do three .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	1380.5	Three .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1380.92	Think we're being generous here with three .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	1381.54	Th the special colour doesn't would I think make a difference .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	1384.37	It makes it stand out from you know it's lost in a big pile of crap , it stands out from the rest of the crap .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1386.36	Mm .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1389.61	Yeah .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-B	1390.84	Okay .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1391.1	Okay .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1392.02	Reduce the number of unused buttons .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1393.73	We're down to t two buttons , is it ?	evaluation of prototype(s)
-B	1395.62	Two buttons .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	1395.64	Two buttons and a joystick .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1396.91	Okay , so that's a one .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1397.97	You know , where that's Okay , that was good .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	1398.6	Totally .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-B	1398.94	Yeah .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-B	1399.73	I'd say we're doing well there .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1402.78	Easy to use interface , buttons menu , menus that's yeah that's good .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1408.98	'Kay that's we're not doing so badly .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1410.97	Um easy to use oh okay , let's forget that one .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-B	1414.84	Mm-hmm .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1415.52	Fancy looking .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-B	1418.65	As he models the I'd Yeah .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	1418.77	It doesn't get much fancier .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1420.37	Sure .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1420.91	And we could do whatever we like with the L_ L_C_D_ .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1424.32	Yeah let's just assume it's a good L_C_D_ display .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1427.24	Maybe I was panicking for no reason .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	1428.4	Are we going one on ?	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	1430.58	I'd say we go two , 'cause like f the fanciest would be the double curved .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1436.04	Yeah , w maybe you'd be a bit too yeah .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	1436.13	Wouldn't it ?	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	1436.47	Mm .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	1437.88	With the articulators .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1439.28	There we go .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1439.92	Yeah , that's m that's that's better too .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	1440.03	With bells on it .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1445.19	More accurate numbers .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1446.89	Technologically innovative .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1449.85	Well , we're getting rid of the locator thing which which yeah .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-B	1452.52	Which is a shame .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	1454.32	Mm .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	1455.52	I'd give it a three for this for that .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	1455.7	No need for teletext .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	1458.97	Yeah .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	1460.01	I mean the menus thing is something you don't normally see on um on a remote , but you see it in a lot of other places .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1460.09	'Kay .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1472.2	Yeah , mobile phones .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-B	1474.09	Mm .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1474.25	And y what you're doing is moving the menu from the television to the remote control , so it's You say three ?	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	1479.86	Mm-hmm .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1481.66	I might go as far as two on that .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1483.35	Three .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	1484.61	I'd give it a three .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-B	1484.85	I'd be tempted with three , yeah .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1486.49	Three .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1487.05	Okay .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1489.87	Okay .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-B	1489.97	We'll get panned on the next one , anyway .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1492.19	Materials that people find pleasing .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1494.78	Sponginess is what they really would have wanted , apparently .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-B	1494.82	Yeah , w It is , yeah .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-B	1498.44	Don't blame them .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-B	1499.83	Um because of the way that we've minimalised the number of buttons and such .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1505.56	Yeah .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-B	1507.29	Plastic , it sucks .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-B	1508.94	But it's no worse than any of the other pl remote controls we have .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1512.31	That's true .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1512.99	It's not a step backwards .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	1515.66	Mm-hmm .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	1516.03	five ?	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	1516.68	Six ?	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	1516.91	I'd s I I'd give it a six , to be honest .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	1518.39	Six , .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1520.28	Yeah , okay let's give it a six .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1524.22	Okay , that's totally thrown everything off balance .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1527.66	Inspired by the latest interior and clothing fashion .	look and usability
-C	1530.48	W we could .	look and usability
-C	1531.72	What colour were we gonna make it ?	look and usability
-D	1532.74	Put a leopard print on it .	look and usability
-A	1533.86	Well I I I would sa I would say give a s give a selection of colours .	look and usability
-A	1538.54	Um we went with yellow we went with yellow for the prototype 'cause we had yellow .	look and usability
-C	1539.68	I know , but But um by this I think it's more a case of fruit and veg , Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1543.01	If I were buying one , I'd go for purple .	look and usability
-A	1545.65	Leopard print would be cool .	look and usability
-D	1550.42	Yeah we gotta .	look and usability
-D	1551.06	I'd say the colour of the border there world you'd find that , that's that'd stand out .	look and usability
-B	1558.53	Like yellow , yeah .	look and usability
-B	1559.23	It would also help keep the the product placement s yeah .	look and usability
-D	1562.96	Logo , brand .	look and usability
-C	1564.14	Mm .	look and usability
-D	1565.71	Mm 'kay .	look and usability
-C	1565.77	But Th th they're referring to the fruit and veg thing .	look and usability
-B	1565.83	Is it inspired by clothing fashion ?	look and usability
-C	1573.69	Is this like a banana type colour ?	look and usability
-C	1576.02	Could we stretch no still , it's not shaped like a banana is Oh is that 'cause it's flat ?	look and usability
-B	1577.49	Yes .	look and usability
-B	1579.7	It's kind o it probably Well I mean it's probably more fruit and veg than most other things out there bar fruit and veg , so , what , four ?	look and usability
-A	1580.02	That's kinda i it won't be when it's been budgeted .	look and usability
-C	1586.16	What is what fruit or veg is flat ?	look and usability
-A	1589.72	I I think s I I think this isn't not particularly fruit and veggie .	look and usability
-C	1594.94	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1595.48	Um .	look and usability
-C	1596.14	Or we might have to suffer badly for this one as well .	look and usability
-D	1597.81	Yellow courgette .	look and usability
-C	1610.07	Four ?	look and usability
-C	1611.14	Oh that's it's very ambitious , yeah , um .	look and usability
-B	1611.99	Is that being too generous ?	look and usability
-A	1613.22	Mm .	look and usability
-A	1614.29	I'd I'd I don't think fruit and veg is the sole criterion .	look and usability
-B	1618.61	Oh dear , .	look and usability
-C	1619.05	Sure .	look and usability
-A	1619.66	Is the sole criterion for being um fashion fashionable or inspired by current fashions .	look and usability
-C	1622.8	Inspired by .	look and usability
-A	1626.76	Um I'd g I'd rate I'd rate this fairly highly from that point of view actually .	look and usability
-D	1631.72	Well this this what we're gonna t this is their motto , like .	look and usability
-C	1634.73	Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1635.3	And we're we're not doing well on it .	look and usability
-C	1636.62	This is their strategy .	look and usability
-C	1638.79	I m imagine we actually had some money invested in this and the amount that we invest is gonna be proportional to the marks .	look and usability
-C	1645.56	Might we might wanna be a bit more skepible sceptical about this one .	look and usability
-B	1653.52	What would you think yourself ?	look and usability
-C	1654.84	I would say I mean it's it's not at all , right ?	look and usability
-C	1659.84	In any way or shape or form .	look and usability
-C	1662.87	We didn't m Okay , the the yellow banana like thing is I think is okay .	look and usability
-B	1662.88	Well , it's kind of curved and we can make it yellow , and that's pretty much banana like .	look and usability
-B	1671.52	Si it's got a curve to it .	look and usability
-C	1673.67	Right five .	look and usability
-C	1674.48	Is that sound reasonable ?	look and usability
-B	1677.63	Am I do you think I'm stretching the uh the use of the banana ?	look and usability
-D	1677.85	Yeah , I'll go with five .	look and usability
-C	1679.12	Five .	look and usability
-C	1681.24	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1686.73	'Kay , so we have one , two , three , four , five , six , seven .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1693.73	So five , seven , ten , sixteen , twenty one .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1699.66	Which gives us an average of three .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1703.44	It's well this would be in the middle .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1707.71	So we it's it's not bad .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1710.84	It's in the good section .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-B	1712.76	It's not bad and considering the don't pick the pen .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1717.69	Oops .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1718.3	Sorry .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-B	1719.18	Um .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1720.55	I'm I'm sorry .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-B	1723.16	Y oh and you've knocked batteries out .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-B	1726.84	Um right okay it's considering the price we had to get this in , to have a positive you know , even based on the four of us being heavily biased , um it was gonna be quite hard to get anything standing out I'd say possibly , based on um the the cost features .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	1727.39	'S bad design , that thing .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1732.77	Mm-hmm .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1739.87	Yeah .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	1754.0	Mm , yeah .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	1754.38	Mm .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1754.79	Even if we were to increase this entire thing by by seven , we were to go down a grade to to four , we would have to do I mean we didn't we weren't that kinda optimistic too optim overly optimistic .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1769.71	You know like we didn't we didn't add we didn't subtract a whole seven points from these things , so I think we're definitely on the good bit .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1776.72	Even if we gave this one seven and this one seven , that's still only three extra points over seven .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1783.33	You know , it's yeah , we did it w it was okay .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	1784.86	Mm .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1786.37	It was good .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	1787.56	Personally , I think given that the product um only replaces a single remote control that you've already got , are people really gonna shell out twenty five Euros for something that's only marginally good ?	look and usability
-D	1812.54	Well , it depends who your who's what the target people are , like you'd say maybe the fashion conscious women would be going , oh look at that , 's cool , it looks like a it's yellow , looks like a banana , it's cool it's gotta look good in the sitting room .	look and usability
-B	1824.2	Maybe it's been targeted Hide it in the fruit basket .	look and usability
-C	1828.04	Mm-hmm .	look and usability
-D	1835.06	Rather than the L_C_D_ whereas uh more technical like like more uh people in with the latest technology it's good , it's got an L_C_D_ screen 's only got two buttons and a joystick .	look and usability
-D	1850.07	So , which which kind of people would be more likely to buy it ?	look and usability
-B	1857.76	Probably the people technologically .	look and usability
-B	1859.27	They're usually the ones that buy pointless stuff .	look and usability
-C	1861.17	I think so .	look and usability
-C	1862.55	I mean my mum still has not learnt how to use text messaging on her phone , and she's had it for a long time , you know .	look and usability
-C	1868.97	She uses it to make phone calls and that's it .	look and usability
-C	1872.92	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1873.88	So I think if sh if my mum saw a remote control like this with only two buttons and a joystick , I mean that'll probably be the first one she decides not to buy , you know .	look and usability
-B	1883.31	Mm-hmm .	look and usability
-C	1883.54	She'd be like is this a remote control , I don't how do you use it , and stuff like that .	look and usability
-C	1887.96	So even if it is really user friendly to us , but we're used to using menus all the time .	look and usability
-A	1894.0	Mm-hmm .	look and usability
-A	1894.5	I s I suppose one thing is that b because it's technically innovative , um for someone who's sort of technophobic , the fact that it simply looks unfamiliar would be daunting .	look and usability
-C	1906.56	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1908.69	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1909.27	I think it's totally uh radical to have a remote control with no no numbered buttons , yeah .	look and usability
-A	1909.41	Um .	look and usability
-D	1912.62	Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1914.31	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1916.18	But like radical good , maybe .	look and usability
-B	1918.85	Okay .	evaluation of project process
-B	1919.4	Um don't know how lo much longer we've got .	evaluation of project process
-B	1921.81	At least five minutes I think .	evaluation of project process
-B	1923.78	Um quickly we'll pop onto project evaluation .	evaluation of project process
-B	1927.57	Um .	evaluation of project process
-B	1930.74	So , we've got these uh four criteria here for uh satisfaction .	evaluation of project process
-B	1940.05	Does anybody want to um um do you have any opinions on any of them ?	evaluation of project process
-B	1946.45	For example um we'll work backwards I suppose .	evaluation of project process
-B	1950.53	The ability to work on this project using the technology we've been presented with .	evaluation of project process
-B	1956.79	Um people made good use of the uh pen and paper ?	evaluation of project process
-B	1964.39	I would say I'm not quite sure what the advantage for us using a digital pen might be .	evaluation of project process
-A	1964.5	Yeah , got notes and doodles .	evaluation of project process
-D	1965.57	Yeah .	evaluation of project process
-C	1967.32	Wrote nearly a page , but not .	evaluation of project process
-C	1975.94	I think tracking .	evaluation of project process
-A	1976.24	Well I think this is a I think the digital pen's mostly for the benefit of the uh of the researchers studying this .	evaluation of project process
-B	1978.35	Mm .	evaluation of project process
-A	1982.31	It's all p goes into their corpus .	evaluation of project process
-A	1984.93	Though it would have been nice to be able to transfer the um transfer our n our paper notes onto the uh computer ourselves .	evaluation of project process
-B	1984.93	It must It does seem like the paper's still a heavy consideration for taking notes .	evaluation of project process
-C	1994.58	Yeah , that woulda been pretty good .	evaluation of project process
-B	2001.85	So maybe this is literally just a way around it .	evaluation of project process
-B	2003.73	Um I dunno .	evaluation of project process
-B	2007.66	How are people satisfied with the teamwork we've managed to display today ?	evaluation of project process
-D	2012.83	Good .	evaluation of project process
-C	2013.18	I'd yeah I liked it , yeah .	evaluation of project process
-B	2018.87	Leadership .	evaluation of project process
-B	2020.98	As much as can be leadered in this uh thing .	evaluation of project process
-D	2023.56	Very good .	evaluation of project process
-C	2024.3	I li yeah , top marks .	evaluation of project process
-B	2027.02	Um last one we've got is room for creativity .	evaluation of project process
-C	2030.56	Well yeah .	evaluation of project process
-B	2030.8	Now , I think we got Yeah I think of in the end , ideas that can be used sadly .	evaluation of project process
-A	2031.55	Unti uh uh until uh until accounts came along , squish .	evaluation of project process
-D	2036.24	We're burs bursting with creativity .	evaluation of project process
-C	2039.4	We we're not lacking in ideas , you know it's that was not the problem .	evaluation of project process
-B	2051.72	Not so much that we weren't full of ideas , but of ones that are gonna allow us to actually build the thing .	evaluation of project process
-C	2056.75	Mm-hmm .	evaluation of project process
-B	2057.02	It's a bit of a pity .	evaluation of project process
-B	2058.55	Um I would have to agree on that .	evaluation of project process
-B	2061.48	I think we needed a larger budget .	evaluation of project process
-C	2063.46	Yeah .	evaluation of project process
-B	2064.1	If you're going to aim your a um product maybe at the technological kind of sector , then you can afford to maybe jack the price up slightly from what it is .	evaluation of project process
-B	2072.67	Because they will pay outrageous cash to first on the market .	evaluation of project process
-A	2072.75	Yeah .	evaluation of project process
-A	2075.97	Mm .	evaluation of project process
-A	2076.32	I mean I th I mean I think to r retaining the s the more sort of bio-morphic form in the articulation would gain more in s uh would gain more profit in sales than it would lose in uh in added expense .	evaluation of project process
-B	2094.79	Mm .	evaluation of project process
-D	2096.37	And the price was like it was twice the w assembly cost .	evaluation of project process
-D	2102.56	And would it have to be twice that ?	evaluation of project process
-D	2105.75	It could be like coulda had the assembly like maybe fifteen Euro .	evaluation of project process
-B	2112.14	It could even That's true , yeah .	evaluation of project process
-D	2112.2	We'll still settle for twenty five .	evaluation of project process
-D	2115.31	Maybe .	evaluation of project process
-B	2116.78	Um I suppose these are all that will have to be taken up with a at a different group at I guess .	evaluation of project process
-B	2123.73	As to a the costs involved .	evaluation of project process
-B	2128.5	But I mean we've got a a prototype .	evaluation of project process
-A	2133.87	Such as it is .	evaluation of project process
-B	2136.46	So I dunno , I I think it's gone okay today , considering the information that we've had at our disposal , and um such .	evaluation of project process
-C	2143.84	Maybe the counts wou woulda been better if we had a list or more Yeah , to begin with .	evaluation of project process
-D	2149.89	In the beginning , yeah .	evaluation of project process
-C	2150.68	Yeah .	evaluation of project process
-B	2152.21	Probably would have mean we could have come up with a lot more solid design in the end , I would have to agree .	evaluation of project process
-C	2155.22	Yeah .	evaluation of project process
-B	2157.56	It is very much a pity to um get so far into the stage and then find out that maybe some of your ideas are just a bit too expensive .	evaluation of project process
-B	2167.6	Always hard to tell until you know the costs .	evaluation of project process
-B	2170.79	Um .	evaluation of project process
-B	2175.58	Okay .	evaluation of project process
-B	2178.07	Are the costs within budget ?	evaluation of project process
-B	2179.65	Well , they are now that we have our slightly less than capable product .	evaluation of project process
-C	2184.58	Okay .	evaluation of project process
-B	2185.56	We've evaluated it , and we can say that we came out with a value of three .	evaluation of project process
-C	2190.07	Yeah .	evaluation of project process
-A	2192.0	Actually I want th one thing I would say I mean something that could perhaps be part of the product mm the um m product testing market research process would be to uh produce mock-ups of both versions and see just how much of a difference the over going over-budget um m would make to sales .	evaluation of project process
-B	2215.04	It's yeah ?	evaluation of project process
-C	2216.09	And like response from consumers .	evaluation of project process
-A	2218.53	And we could even you know , market two versions .	evaluation of project process
-A	2225.49	Wee cheapie version with the nice bio-morphic rubber .	evaluation of project process
-B	2231.7	And then the final one where you get to call it Hal .	evaluation of project process
-B	2234.89	But we'll go into that later .	evaluation of project process
-A	2235.01	Yes .	evaluation of project process
-C	2236.14	Sure .	evaluation of project process
-B	2237.58	Right um is there anything else that anybody would like to to add , um anything they think that's not been covered , before I quickly write up a final report .	evaluation of project process
-B	2254.82	Um I dunno , I mean we've got a product .	evaluation of project process
-B	2257.89	We maybe aren't as happy with it as we'd like to be , but we've got something we think we can maybe stick onto the the market and sell .	evaluation of project process
-B	2268.45	And of course something we have been avoiding talking about 'cause of we've no information is selling them directly to the manufacturers .	evaluation of project process
-C	2275.32	Yeah .	evaluation of project process
-B	2275.56	There is a huge market .	evaluation of project process
-B	2276.41	I mean we've briefly touched on it but we've no more knowledge then there's little we can say on that .	evaluation of project process
-C	2280.28	Yeah .	evaluation of project process
-A	2281.75	Mm .	evaluation of project process
-B	2286.78	Yeah .	evaluation of project process
-B	2289.79	So um unless anybody's got anything they'd like to add , we can maybe round this up slightly earlier than we'd need to and then we can finish up the writing and such .	closing
-A	2300.47	And I can get my bus .	closing
-B	2303.99	Yeah ?	closing
-A	2304.4	Okay .	closing
-C	2304.42	Yeah .	closing
-C	2306.62	Okay , let's Thank you .	closing
-B	2309.0	Uh thank you for your participation .	closing
-A	2311.64	Thank you .	closing
-C	2318.76	I was actually kind of upset you know at the budget , and that we had to cut a lot of stuff .	project budget
-C	2324.66	It's like man , we we can't have the locator thing .	project budget
-C	2328.95	And s yeah that's just bad .	project budget
-C	2333.54	Do you think maybe the prices were were made ?	project budget
-B	2341.22	That a question we can ask .	project budget

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-A	34.27	Here we go .	participant names
-A	37.14	Welcome everybody .	participant names
-A	39.15	Um , I'm Abigail Claflin .	participant names
-A	43.32	You can call me Abbie .	participant names
-A	46.43	'S see .	participant names
-A	47.63	PowerPoint , that's not it .	participant names
-A	50.2	There we go .	participant names
-A	51.33	So this is our kick off meeting .	participant names
-A	55.53	Um and I guess we should all get acquainted .	participant names
-A	62.17	Let's shall we all introduce ourselves ?	participant names
-D	65.0	Hi I'm Chiara , I'm the um Marketing Expert .	participant names
-D	70.04	Um , would you like me to talk about my aims at the moment , or would you like me to just say my name and then we can talk about business later ?	participant names
-A	77.04	I think we'll get around to that , yeah .	participant names
-D	78.93	We'll get round to that later .	participant names
-A	78.99	So this is just introductions yeah .	participant names
-D	80.51	My name is Chiara and I'm the Marketing Expert .	participant names
-A	82.98	Okay .	participant names
-A	83.64	I forgot to s say I'm the Project Manager but I figured you all knew that already , um so .	participant names
-C	89.02	I'm Stephanie and I am the User Interface Designer .	participant names
-B	93.94	I'm Krista and I'm the Industrial Designer .	participant names
-A	96.02	Okay .	participant names
-A	98.26	Um so f here's our agenda for today .	opening
-A	102.23	Um we're gonna do some tool training , project plan and discuss then close .	opening
-A	111.99	Um so .	opening
-A	116.57	So our aim is to produce a remote control that is original , trendy and user friendly .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	124.27	And to do this , we have to um there's certain things we have to consider about functional aspects and conceptual design of the thing .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	135.79	So .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	137.29	We'll get to that .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	139.55	Oh there it is .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	140.41	Right .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	141.19	Functional design , conceptual design and detailed design .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	144.35	So throughout our next couple of meetings we'll we'll be covering these things .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	150.87	Um so we're gonna try out our white board .	drawing exercise
-A	157.03	If we'll all draw our favourite animal , to sum up the characteristics of that animal .	drawing exercise
-C	166.81	So you want us to draw it and then talk about it ?	drawing exercise
-A	166.85	Okay .	drawing exercise
-C	168.51	Or just draw it ?	drawing exercise
-D	172.05	I think both .	drawing exercise
-A	173.16	Yeah .	drawing exercise
-C	173.16	Okay .	drawing exercise
-C	173.91	Why don't we do both .	drawing exercise
-A	174.02	Both .	drawing exercise
-A	174.84	Yeah .	drawing exercise
-D	175.8	Who starts ?	drawing exercise
-C	175.93	Right .	drawing exercise
-D	176.81	We ought to decide who starts and all that .	drawing exercise
-D	180.01	No ?	drawing exercise
-A	180.64	Any volunteers ?	drawing exercise
-D	180.79	Uh-huh .	drawing exercise
-A	182.69	Does anyone know what they wanna draw ?	drawing exercise
-C	184.17	Mm , I gotta think about it for a second like .	drawing exercise
-C	186.7	Uh Does it have to be functional , trendy and user friendly ?	drawing exercise
-A	194.51	I don't think so .	drawing exercise
-C	196.53	Um .	drawing exercise
-C	200.05	Okay , I'll draw .	drawing exercise
-C	200.66	I'll draw one .	drawing exercise
-C	203.5	Make sure my things here .	drawing exercise
-C	220.69	Uh-oh .	drawing exercise
-C	229.48	Right .	drawing exercise
-C	239.31	Okay , my favourite animal is see .	drawing exercise
-C	261.76	Oops .	drawing exercise
-A	265.48	A dolphin .	drawing exercise
-C	266.6	Yeah , it's Yeah , I guess it has a fin on top too , yeah .	drawing exercise
-A	269.33	'S like playing Pictionary .	drawing exercise
-C	279.83	It's my dolphin .	drawing exercise
-A	280.98	So what characteristics do you like about your animal ?	drawing exercise
-C	284.36	I like its tail .	drawing exercise
-C	286.18	Um , no , I think dolphins are really uh I dunno , they're smart and they they're cute and they like swimming and that's cool , like they're graceful yeah , and they're so Yeah they're sleek and they look intelligent and I don't know , they're I guess it's the whole like binocular vision thing .	drawing exercise
-A	298.53	They're graceful .	drawing exercise
-A	302.85	Sleek .	drawing exercise
-A	309.22	I don't know how intelligent that one looks .	drawing exercise
-C	311.39	Yeah he he doesn't look that smart .	drawing exercise
-C	314.42	He's a I dunno um they're I think it's cool the the um the interaction that or the th things that the reasons people seem to like you know you get ex you know people are sitting on the beach and p they're like oh look there's dolphins and it's kinda like but they're you know they jump around in the water and they're happy and they're mammals , but they swim .	drawing exercise
-A	338.96	Yes .	drawing exercise
-A	339.12	Does anybody else wanna draw their animal ?	drawing exercise
-B	346.66	Suppose I can draw an animal , yeah .	drawing exercise
-A	376.08	Uh-oh there goes the ten .	drawing exercise
-A	379.03	It's a cat .	drawing exercise
-B	379.95	Yeah .	drawing exercise
-B	386.04	I don't know .	drawing exercise
-B	386.53	They sleep all day , they're easy to draw .	drawing exercise
-A	394.66	Do you wanna anything ?	drawing exercise
-D	395.22	Uh yeah .	drawing exercise
-A	396.16	I dunno if the the ah .	drawing exercise
-D	396.26	Well I had the cat as well , but uh I've got a spare one .	drawing exercise
-B	396.66	I think the pen is running out of Two million .	project specs and roles of participants drawing exercise
-D	401.49	So I'll use the spare one .	drawing exercise
-D	405.32	Um but it's harder to draw um .	drawing exercise
-C	408.26	And the pen's dying .	drawing exercise
-D	409.82	Um .	drawing exercise
-A	414.06	A horse .	drawing exercise
-D	414.09	Uh .	drawing exercise
-C	414.39	Horse .	drawing exercise
-D	419.01	Um I don't really know how the legs go , but anyway I will do that .	drawing exercise
-A	421.19	That's very good .	drawing exercise
-D	425.91	Um , and the main reason is they're pretty .	drawing exercise
-D	429.69	I think they're very pretty and they go well with the environment , and I like the way they run and I used to do horse riding and they're just very sort of sturdy and nice animals .	drawing exercise
-D	439.71	And I like the way um they feel , sort of under under the hand , I think that's pretty much it .	drawing exercise
-D	448.85	Um How many should we sell then ?	project specs and roles of participants drawing exercise
-A	450.4	Yeah .	drawing exercise
-A	458.82	This cord's Uh .	drawing exercise
-A	469.2	Right .	drawing exercise
-A	470.69	Actually I haven't thought of anything yet .	drawing exercise
-A	474.12	Uh It's a pig .	drawing exercise
-A	491.62	So I'm thinking we should design a remote control that's water resistant , strong and furry .	drawing exercise
-A	498.73	What do you think , yeah ?	drawing exercise
-C	502.1	And furry .	drawing exercise
-A	502.34	This is yeah , well like a cat , you know , soft yeah .	drawing exercise
-C	505.36	Textile tactile , tactile remote control .	drawing exercise
-A	508.46	Although uh I'll just put there .	drawing exercise
-A	511.04	Right .	drawing exercise
-C	515.09	You're dragging a you have a tail .	drawing exercise
-A	517.2	Oh my gosh , this is disastrous .	drawing exercise
-A	521.83	Sorry about that .	drawing exercise
-A	525.5	Okay .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	527.26	So moving on .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	530.49	Our selling price goal is twenty five Euro and profit aim is fifty million Euro .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	539.18	So I'm guessing that we're not actually in Scotland , we're in some European country .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	546.58	Um , and we will hope to sell this internationally .	project specs and roles of participants
-C	551.61	Sorry can you just say that what's the what are our price goals again ?	project specs and roles of participants
-A	555.49	Um selling price is twenty five Euro .	project specs and roles of participants
-C	557.6	Okay .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	558.88	Profit aim fifty million Euro .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	570.62	Um , a lot , two two two million , two mi no , more f four million .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	571.73	Anyone a mathematician ?	project specs and roles of participants
-D	578.64	Four million .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	580.19	And it well it's the profit so if a profit for each is twelve fifty , that'll do four million .	project specs and roles of participants
-B	584.77	Oh , yeah .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	597.77	It is a lot .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	599.21	Uh .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	614.41	So f that's a fifty percent um uh .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	619.56	Um , I don't know what these mean because I didn't actually make the slide-show .	discussion
-A	625.91	Experience with remote control .	discussion
-A	628.35	So I guess we have to reflect on our experiences with remote controls to decide what um we would like to see in a convenient , practical , nice remote control .	discussion
-A	643.51	Um so do we have any initial ideas for uh how this remote control should be designed or formatted or the the buttons it should have .	discussion
-D	654.15	Um , I think one thing is that it should be easy to find bec yeah bec Yeah , yeah yeah yeah yeah .	look and usability
-C	658.36	I was thinking that too .	look and usability
-A	659.66	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	659.66	I think we should design something that has like a so you can like somehow like you I mean you always know where your T_V_ is , so just have a call button , I've always wanted that , so like you can push a button on your T_V_ Yeah , yeah yeah yeah , so you should have a call button on your television to be able to find your remote control .	look and usability
-A	668.26	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	669.45	I mean you have it for the portable phone , so why not yeah .	look and usability
-D	674.61	Yeah .	look and usability
-D	676.52	And even I think a little light .	look and usability
-D	678.82	Um or even a maybe a vib a vibrating thing .	look and usability
-D	683.24	I dunno but someth because it's usually under the sofa .	look and usability
-C	687.41	Yeah .	look and usability
-D	687.55	In which case you're going to be l but if it has a sort of signal which isn't any sound I don't know if it's expensive maybe to Maybe call is enough .	look and usability
-C	688.06	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	692.38	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	693.94	I don't yeah I mean it but like I mean just I mean like your phone even just has so like it can vibrate , it can light up and make noise and I dunno .	look and usability
-D	696.45	But yeah .	look and usability
-D	701.17	Yeah yeah yeah .	look and usability
-D	704.23	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	712.88	What if it had something like um just like a magnet on the back of it and you could I mean j just to have some place to put it besides like a base .	look and usability
-C	724.86	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	725.17	You know like a portable phone has a base , like just to have a home for it .	look and usability
-C	725.85	Yeah , or if it had a yeah .	look and usability
-D	730.69	Yeah yeah yeah yeah .	look and usability
-C	731.8	Yeah , I mean Yeah .	look and usability
-A	732.56	'Cause people just stick it on top of their T_V_ , but the point of having a remote is not to have to walk over to the T_V_ , so Yeah .	look and usability
-B	738.32	Well that's why it's always in the couch .	look and usability
-C	739.79	Yeah , in in the couch .	look and usability
-C	742.47	I dunno , it seems like though that that would be hard , 'cause you not you're not gonna be lazy anyway and Yeah so we the project is now couches and remote controls .	look and usability
-A	745.76	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	747.22	Maybe we should design couches that have the remote control in the side arm .	look and usability
-D	751.96	But even just a thing to attach it to the w you know if you had a thing , a pretty object attached to the wall .	look and usability
-D	757.78	But that would really make it more expensive .	look and usability
-C	758.47	Yeah .	look and usability
-D	760.21	But it's only a plastic thing , r really , the thing on the wall .	look and usability
-C	763.74	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	764.06	Yeah .	look and usability
-D	765.42	Something like that .	look and usability
-D	766.52	And the other thing is Not well it needs to be sort of Yeah .	look and usability
-A	766.76	Do you think it needs to be bigger to not lose , or does that not factor in ?	look and usability
-C	771.01	Bigger .	look and usability
-A	772.44	Like Hand hand held size , yeah .	look and usability
-C	774.43	Hand-sized .	look and usability
-D	776.03	I don't think you need a But definitely not well I don't know .	look and usability
-A	777.62	Not not huge , but Huh .	look and usability
-C	781.67	It can't be that hard to put some kind of a noise on it .	look and usability
-D	784.93	No , it can't be , uh-uh .	look and usability
-B	785.67	No it really wouldn't be .	look and usability
-C	786.02	Or like or like a light thing .	look and usability
-C	789.06	You know .	look and usability
-C	790.07	I dunno .	look and usability
-D	790.56	Like spaceship .	look and usability
-C	791.61	Yeah .	look and usability
-D	792.11	Right .	look and usability
-D	792.88	Um Oh dear .	look and usability
-C	793.03	Or make it mobile so it runs around and comes come find you yeah .	look and usability
-C	798.65	That would be really I'm sure we could do that for twenty five Euros a pop .	look and usability
-A	800.95	Little homing device .	look and usability
-C	802.76	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	804.01	Uh .	look and usability
-A	804.07	Um .	look and usability
-A	805.9	Okay .	look and usability
-A	807.07	So what do we think this remote control should Five minutes .	look and usability
-A	814.08	Till the meeting oh right .	look and usability
-A	815.91	This is what we have left .	look and usability
-C	818.79	I also think though that it shouldn't have too many buttons , 'cause I hate that when they have too many buttons and I mean I know it has to have enough functions but like , I don't know you , just have like eight thousand buttons and you're like , no , you never use half of them .	look and usability
-A	819.02	Um , oh we just Yeah .	look and usability
-B	822.2	Yeah , I agree .	look and usability
-B	823.76	B_ button and the F_ button , they don't do anything .	look and usability
-D	823.78	Yeah , yeah yeah .	look and usability
-A	832.09	You what if um may be a little fancy but what if it had like a little screen , so it has less buttons but it still has all the functions .	look and usability
-C	832.24	So .	look and usability
-C	841.87	That would be cool .	look and usability
-A	842.32	Like the way a mobile phone does .	look and usability
-D	842.58	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	844.08	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	845.57	I mean it just seems like yeah .	look and usability
-A	846.74	So you could like um like if you have I dunno if you have satellite if you have a hundred channels , you can the way you do it on your radio is that you uh what do you call it s y yeah but you can programme , so you can programme like your favourite channels , so like if you had a s That's something we could decide .	look and usability
-D	855.47	Select .	look and usability
-D	856.9	Uh .	look and usability
-D	862.76	But , would you have the screen on the thing , or would you have it on the telly transmitting the screen .	look and usability
-C	868.88	I guess they would go together somehow ?	look and usability
-D	868.88	Because Because , I don't know if it's I think it's e expensive , if you have if you use the telly screen , 'cause the telly's already a screen , then you can pro sort of have a programming function , really easy sort of arrow up and down , on the remote , and then use the telly as a screen .	look and usability
-A	869.12	Mm .	look and usability
-C	870.71	I dunno .	look and usability
-A	877.82	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	885.6	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	889.78	Right .	look and usability
-D	889.91	But um But yeah for sure .	look and usability
-C	892.85	I'm thinking kind of Or like you h you see those you know people I'm thinking of like celebrity cribs kind of things when like they have all those these things that at their house you know their their entire house is so electronic , and they have like this one master control that and it's like a hand held like turns on everything sort of control and it has like a screen and like so I think it should be possible to have some kind of a screen , I don't know if it must be it would probably must be ex too expensive though t like I dunno .	look and usability
-D	894.09	Something like not it's not on the button but it's telling you what to do , is that what you mean ?	look and usability
-A	897.83	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	898.82	Yeah .	look and usability
-D	900.39	Right .	look and usability
-D	900.84	Mm .	look and usability
-D	923.13	Yeah .	look and usability
-D	927.84	But like mobile phones have screens and they're cheap .	look and usability
-A	928.14	Mm .	look and usability
-C	929.5	Yeah , yeah .	look and usability
-C	930.77	Yeah that's true .	look and usability
-A	930.78	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	931.96	I mean , we have to remember our budget is twelve point twelve fifty for to actually make the device .	look and usability
-D	935.17	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	938.29	Mm .	look and usability
-A	940.66	Um but it's something to think about , yeah .	look and usability
-C	940.7	Well , I guess we have to get to that later , yeah .	look and usability
-A	942.98	I mean we'll have to see how much that would be .	look and usability
-D	945.27	Or some it i we can find out probably on the internet how much it's Um .	look and usability components, materials and energy sources
-A	948.6	Yeah .	look and usability
-D	953.93	Yeah , and the other thing you said that thing about robust and water um What was the word ?	components, materials and energy sources
-C	960.98	Furry .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	961.28	Water resistant .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	962.2	Oh I was just Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	963.79	No but it's I thought , ah , spot on .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	967.04	Good feel , tact tactile , good tactile feel , maybe something didn doesn't make your hands sweat lot .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	974.61	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	975.68	Mm , mm .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	975.78	That's quite annoying .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	980.74	Maybe um just like a simple thing to have a clip on it , like so you can clip it to your like that's another Um .	closing components, materials and energy sources
-C	986.93	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	989.2	Yeah , clip .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	991.69	Ooh .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	993.67	Um .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	999.35	We should probably start wrapping up , um we've got some initial ideas that we can all look into .	closing
-A	1005.45	Um , and come up with some new ones for the next meeting , which will be in another thirty minutes .	closing
-A	1012.52	Um .	closing
-A	1014.97	So .	closing
-A	1017.38	Yeah .	closing
-A	1018.25	The Industrial Designer , what does that stand for , I_D_ , yeah um is going to be looking more into the working design .	closing
-B	1021.85	Yeah I think so .	closing
-A	1026.76	So I guess you'd be looking at lots of the things we discussed about screen and um that sort of thing .	closing
-A	1035.32	The something , what is the U_I_ ?	closing
-B	1038.69	User .	closing
-C	1039.55	That's me .	closing
-A	1039.99	Yeah , what does it stand for again ?	closing
-C	1041.22	Uh , User Interface design .	closing
-A	1042.22	User Interface Designer .	closing
-A	1044.16	So that's gonna be more technical .	closing
-A	1048.85	I guess that maybe the working design has also to do with like the physical feat like just the way it looks and the way it w Yeah , yeah .	closing
-C	1055.07	So technical function .	closing
-B	1056.53	The working design is the structure .	closing
-C	1060.88	What is technical functions exactl I I don't really know what It does but it I just don't really Yeah .	closing
-A	1063.89	Um , I guess you'd have to find out .	closing
-D	1067.15	It says on that email but it It said um It said Yeah like Be a medium between you and the telly I think , that's uh Marketing .	closing
-B	1067.42	Um .	closing
-B	1068.68	It was in the email .	closing
-B	1070.18	I wrote down what mine were .	closing
-C	1075.1	What effect should the thing ha should it have , okay .	closing
-C	1078.71	Alright .	closing
-C	1079.64	And working design .	closing
-C	1080.64	Okay .	closing
-C	1083.04	Yeah , yeah .	closing
-A	1083.6	Mm .	closing
-C	1084.35	Alright .	closing
-C	1085.53	And how it works , okay .	closing
-C	1086.74	Right .	closing
-C	1087.02	I'm I'm on task .	closing
-A	1088.3	And the M_E_ , what does that stand for ?	closing
-A	1091.38	M Marketing , right .	closing
-B	1092.1	Marketing .	closing
-D	1093.56	Oh it's written here , but um .	closing
-A	1093.99	Um .	closing
-A	1096.93	So we'll be working on the user requirements , um Yeah .	closing
-D	1102.95	Okay .	closing
-A	1103.77	So I guess that wraps it up .	closing
-A	1106.88	I'll see you all in thirty minutes .	closing
-A	1113.05	I just did .	closing

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-D	31.54	Okay .	opening
-A	33.49	'Kay so we'll try to zip through this , since we're short on time .	opening
-A	36.52	Welcome everybody .	opening
-A	37.97	Um hope your sessions went well .	opening
-A	41.52	Um so this is our functional design meeting , we're going to consider um user needs , technical effects , and the working design of our remote control .	opening
-A	56.89	Um I've been taking meetings on the minute minutes on the meetings , and I'll be putting them in the shared documents folder so if there's anything you need to refer to you can find them in there .	opening
-A	67.24	Um I I'll get the ones up for next time , um they're not finished yet .	opening
-A	72.84	Right .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	73.18	Um so can we have updates from everyone from what you've worked on just kind of a quick summary of anything interesting that you'd like to share or discuss in this sure .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	83.19	And I can start if you want .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	85.28	Mm .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	86.24	Is there an order ?	agenda/equipment issues
-D	86.96	No .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	88.05	We haven't decided on an order .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	88.39	Hm ?	agenda/equipment issues
-A	90.37	No , any any order's fine .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	90.38	First .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	91.73	Okay .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	92.04	Yeah .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	92.74	Um , how do I put this I'll just put the cable in .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	95.3	Just uh You may need to But sometimes you have to do it it's like a three set setting cycle , so press it a couple times , hold down function and then press F_ eight .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	98.48	Oh yeah , sorry .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	107.96	Is that it ?	agenda/equipment issues
-D	108.56	Can you see ?	agenda/equipment issues
-D	109.05	Oh , here .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	109.47	Okay .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	113.96	So what happens it doesn't work ?	agenda/equipment issues
-A	115.32	It sh it takes a few seconds I think .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	131.67	Who's that ?	agenda/equipment issues
-D	133.13	No .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	135.39	Is it in the right thing ?	agenda/equipment issues
-D	142.19	Oh wait , um .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	146.46	Uh .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	146.73	You need to help me .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	148.19	Uh-huh , and then press function .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	152.15	Yeah .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	152.37	and F_ eight .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	157.0	Could you just plug it back into hers because she had oh .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	158.5	Oh , wait .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	159.42	That's is that it ?	agenda/equipment issues
-B	160.55	Adjusting .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	162.66	Here we are .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	165.76	The cable might be a little loose or something .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	167.91	Right here we are .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	167.99	Oh , you got it .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	169.12	Oh .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	169.37	Is it on ?	agenda/equipment issues
-D	169.75	We're here .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	170.36	Okay .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	170.59	Okay , um .	marketing expert presentation
-D	172.05	In order to see what the functional requirements were to be found , um a hundred people were tested in a usability laboratory through just their habits to n know their habits were observed and questionnaires were given out .	marketing expert presentation
-D	190.71	Um , the findings in in some cases matched what we were talking about .	user requirements
-D	197.3	Custome Customers and users don't like the way remote controls look , they don't like the way they feel , they don't think they match their operating behaviour , and an example is what we were talking about , the buttons , they only use ten per cent of the buttons , so later on there's a study of the buttons that they use most and I think we should design according to these buttons .	user requirements
-D	220.02	Easy to lose , and R_S_I_ .	user requirements
-D	221.8	I don't know what R_S_I_ means .	user requirements
-D	223.88	Um the person that did the questionnaire obviously did , I don't have a clue .	user requirements
-A	227.72	Hm .	user requirements
-D	228.74	Um , according to the frequency of use and the relevance of each buttons , I have made a list of the buttons that we should focus on in order of importance .	user requirements
-D	241.23	So the most important buttons are those to do with channel selection .	user requirements
-D	244.83	They're used about a hundred and sixty times per hour .	user requirements
-D	249.16	And um yeah so and and people like to zap a lot apparently , so this is the order .	user requirements
-D	256.12	Channel selection , teletext , volume , and power .	user requirements
-D	260.1	The other ones are the settings , and they're used less than you know zero point eight to zero point five times per hour , and this means that I think we can we could have like a a button for all the settings , and then , just one , and then from there go on to the audio on the screen , either on the remote or on the television .	user requirements
-D	278.72	Um , about the screen , and speech recognition , some people are more willing than others to actually pay for that .	user requirements
-D	286.48	And if we look at the market , f people from well from fifteen to thirty five year old year olds , I don't really know how to describe this , um ninety one to seventy six percent of people in that age range are willing to pay more for this sort of product , while people that are above thirty five years ol um years old go from thirty five percent to eight percent , so people that are sixty five for example wouldn't actually pay for this sort of thing .	user requirements
-D	317.15	Um I don't I don't know um what the decision to be made is , but I think that the people that actually do buy remotes m more are those like teenagers and young professionals and um , most likely , but we should discuss this together .	user requirements
-D	334.8	And that's all I have to say about the matter , um .	marketing expert presentation
-A	337.77	'Kay .	marketing expert presentation
-D	341.89	Shall I what do I do ?	marketing expert presentation
-D	343.1	Do I give this to someone else ?	marketing expert presentation
-A	344.4	Yeah .	marketing expert presentation
-A	345.0	Just move right on .	marketing expert presentation
-C	350.17	Right .	interface specialist presentation
-C	352.15	So get this .	interface specialist presentation
-C	377.81	Okay so now I need to press F_ eight , what is it ?	interface specialist presentation
-A	382.08	Uh function F_ eight .	interface specialist presentation
-D	382.44	Function F_ eight .	interface specialist presentation
-C	389.19	'Kay .	interface specialist presentation
-C	390.16	What's function ?	interface specialist presentation
-A	391.49	It's the little blue w it's the one th yeah .	interface specialist presentation
-C	393.08	Oh function , I see it .	interface specialist presentation
-C	397.68	There we go .	interface specialist presentation
-A	398.05	Yeah should be It should be yeah .	interface specialist presentation
-C	410.55	Okay .	interface specialist presentation
-C	411.45	Um .	interface specialist presentation
-C	414.07	This my presentation about the uh technical functions design and I basically just tried to focus on um just what what functions we need and how to make that the best function for the user .	interface specialist presentation
-C	430.95	So uh and I just sort of like thought about it myself and looked on the internet .	interface specialist presentation
-C	435.42	And okay so basically um I think i uh like it is really important that we sort of get this done in a user friendly and fashionable way .	look and usability
-C	445.32	Um so I think things like uh you know keeping buttons together that like close together that um are used in the same way , uh or um maybe that making 'em the same colour , keeping the number of buttons the uh leas you know to a minimum , and also things like is it is it um is it uh can you c y small enough large enough I'm not sure we c I guess we would need to do some research about , I would , about what size is appropriate and that sort of thing , um but basically we need to make sure that it turns on and off the T_V_ .	look and usability
-C	487.59	Does it have like capacity to change the channels ?	look and usability
-C	490.24	Um does it do or do we need to have like functions for cable or V_C_R_ ?	look and usability
-C	497.2	And then , is it findable , and uh how do we wanna do that ?	look and usability
-C	503.34	And um I just thought that these two remotes were pretty boring , um I dunno if this will work but And I think we can find something that's more fun to look at and use than either of those .	look and usability existing products
-C	521.54	Just I mean I like the one on the right better , just because it does have fewer buttons , uh but I mean I think we sh can sort of think about things like um like colour and you know size , shapes , that sort of thing , to best fit the user .	existing products
-C	540.91	That concludes my presentation .	interface specialist presentation
-C	545.86	Okay .	industrial designer presentation
-C	546.3	You need the little thingy .	industrial designer presentation
-C	564.54	Ooh .	industrial designer presentation
-B	593.58	How do I um Right .	industrial designer presentation
-D	599.83	S That's on view .	industrial designer presentation
-D	611.11	Oh .	industrial designer presentation
-B	614.36	Okay so this is on the working design , which is sort of the uh mechanical functions of the remote , um and the method I used was to basically look at existing designs and incorporate ideas from our last meeting .	industrial designer presentation
-B	628.1	Um so I think we need two basic functions which is just the basic remote functions , the user can input a channel or volume setting and it will be output to the T_V_ .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	638.81	And also we talked about um a location function where maybe you could press a button on the T_V_ and it would send sort of signal to the remote where it would beep or flash or vibrate or whatever to tell you where the remote is .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	652.0	So the components we need are an energy source to power the remote , um input which would probably be buttons , although um we just talked about voice recognition , processor to take the information , um something to transmit it to the T_V_ , and we also need something on the remote that would receive the location signal and have an output , like possibly a beep or a vibration .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	675.74	And also you need a sender for location signal , which would probably be a separate um thing that we'd have to sell with the remote and people could stick it on their T_V_ or stick it on their wall .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	686.77	And this is just sort of an overview of how the remote works .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	690.35	Power comes from the battery , goes to the chip , um and then it is sent from there to an infrared bulb which is probably the easiest way to send to the T_V_ .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	700.59	And then for the location function , you would have a sender on the T_V_ which would output some sort of signal , um we could use I_R_ but we'd probably wanna use radio instead .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	711.32	That signal would go to a receiver which it would process it , and it would be output in the form of a buzzer or a light lighting up .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	721.77	Um so my personal preferences for how to build the remote would probably be uh , battery for the energy source , that way you wouldn't have to plug it in , um a button pad for input , um we can purchase a pre-made chip which will handle all the processing stuff , I_R_ transmitter to communicate to the T_V_ , that's just sort of standard , um so most T_V_s have an I_R_ receiver .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	743.2	Probably a radio receiver to send out location function and to receive it and I'd probably say a buzzer for the location function on the remote itself .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	752.83	So that concludes my presentation .	industrial designer presentation
-A	756.06	'Kay .	industrial designer presentation
-C	756.34	Do you know about like I dunno , you seem like you know about Okay .	industrial designer presentation
-B	758.19	Mm ?	industrial designer presentation
-B	760.21	Yeah , uh I d I was an engineer before I came here .	industrial designer presentation
-C	763.16	Cool .	industrial designer presentation
-A	768.96	Okay .	industrial designer presentation
-A	769.51	Well thank you everybody .	industrial designer presentation
-A	770.82	Um we have we'll discuss that and then I just wanna mention some new project requirements that came in .	new requirements
-A	779.86	Um , teletext is apparently outdated , so due to internet popularity , so that's off the list .	new requirements
-A	790.64	Um , also our remote should be used only for television , um , no extra internet kinda fancy things , just the remote and the television .	new requirements
-A	803.07	Um and also we need to incorporate our corporate image onto this , so um the phrase is , we put fashion in electronics , so let's be fashionable I guess .	new requirements
-A	820.66	Um if we have something I mean silver and and gold or yellow are our colours , so if we had a like a kind of silver one like you saw , and yellow writing , something like that .	new requirements
-A	834.81	Okay .	discussion
-A	835.36	Um .	discussion
-A	837.64	So we need to make some decisions on the remote control functions .	discussion
-A	843.42	Um , yeah .	discussion
-A	848.99	Do Let's I guess we should yeah make some kind of brainstorming , see what we can wha what um well probably our target group and how it's gonna going to appeal to our target group and I dunno the the s the buttons and what it does and that sort of thing .	discussion
-C	855.35	Like in terms of how it looks , or like what it does ?	discussion
-D	856.87	How it looks or the the buzzer you mean , yeah , for sure , yeah .	discussion components, materials and energy sources
-C	868.37	Okay .	discussion
-C	872.34	Yeah .	discussion
-C	873.74	Okay .	discussion
-A	873.91	So .	discussion
-C	877.54	So Is our target group then people so do we wanna go ahead and design this thing with the finder button ?	components, materials and energy sources
-C	888.15	So Okay .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	888.49	I think that seems to yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	888.87	It's easy to implement .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	890.5	Mm .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	891.01	So the yeah , yeah , yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	893.58	Locator .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	894.27	So then our target age group would be the nineteen to thirty five range , what was it ?	components, materials and energy sources
-A	898.52	Yeah , teenagers and young professionals .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	900.32	Well that's for speech recognition .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	902.6	Oh .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	902.79	Well I was thinking about that but uh I mean speech recognition is really hard to programme , and also , if the T_V_ is on it's making sound and the people on the T_V_ are talking , and if somebody says like one , then the T_V_'s gonna switch itself to channel one , or it seems like a silly , I'm not sure how you would implement it .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	902.96	Oh , uh .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	903.01	And screen .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	904.39	That's only for speech recognition and screen .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	910.02	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	916.69	Yeah yeah yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	917.39	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	917.41	Mm .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	917.85	I mean I just put the values in .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	918.73	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	922.79	And if if you consider our budget , it probably if you consider our budget , to h have speech recognition programmed in every single remote might be a little pricey .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	922.84	But um the screen is the same as what , Yeah , I'm happy with that .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	924.81	It's a cool idea but Well you would have to have a button on a T_V_ or on your wall or some place since the T_V_ already has power .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	927.25	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	933.81	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	934.49	Completely .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	934.61	Hu yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	935.0	Right so um yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	939.16	Okay so are we gonna have just some kind of a like we'll have the buzzer on the som like on the T_V_ itself .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	946.21	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	947.81	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	949.62	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	950.47	Yeah you click the button , it's gonna send out a signal , and I was thinking , I_R_ is line of sight , so unless the remote is like actually in front of the T_V_ it's not gonna work , um so probably like a radio signal like on a on a cell phone .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	961.55	Okay .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	962.24	Okay .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	962.25	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	963.06	Okay .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	963.08	Alright .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	963.25	Okay .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	963.26	Sends out a signal and then the the remote hears the signal and so it beeps probably .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	968.71	Okay .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	969.1	So you you'd need like a separate base for that or like something you can right .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	972.15	It would have to be sold separately because if the sender's on the remote then you'd have to find the remote first to click the button to find the remote .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	977.26	Yeah , yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	979.72	So do you plug it in the T_ you plug it in T_V_ , this thing ?	components, materials and energy sources
-B	982.93	Yeah , it'd probably just stick it on your T_V_ so if you need to find the remote , click the button .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	984.46	Okay .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	985.73	Okay .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	986.4	So it's now like a two-part thing .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	988.0	Yeah , so it would be a two part package .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	988.63	Okay .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	989.66	Alright .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	989.88	Okay .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	991.14	So we get to design that too .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	993.36	Make it fashionable .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	995.94	Um , okay .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	998.61	So do you think even though we're not talking about speek speech recognition our target group should still be teenagers and young professionals .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1004.91	Yeah I think so .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1005.4	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1005.95	Huh .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1006.62	Just there .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1007.72	Okay .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1007.98	Mm .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1008.69	Are we um should that thing be on the thing to put the you s you talking about a home for it .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1016.67	Do you still want to build a little thing next to the telly or to p hang on the wall or shall we leave that for now ?	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1016.79	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1022.64	We probably leave that .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1023.52	I mean I guess one takes care of the other , like um if you can yeah if you can call it then it's Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1025.75	Okay .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1026.28	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1030.9	Then it can live anywhere .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1032.69	Okay .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1032.93	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1033.56	For the so you have that button , that so there's is there a light or shall we leave just have a radio ?	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1041.85	Um on the T_V_ or on the phone ?	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1041.97	Are we just having a radio ?	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1043.58	On the phone .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1044.65	Um it seemed like a a beep seemed the most reasonable to me , I think that's what the phone has , I mean when you need to find your phone , you just have someone call it and it starts ringing somewhere and then you can figure out that it's in the couch or wherever .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1045.47	T So i Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1046.31	You don't need a light .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1047.81	Yeah yeah yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1048.58	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1049.36	Yeah yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1050.34	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1054.79	And like if the if the phone's under the couch , you might not see the light , so yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1057.2	You can hear it's under the couch yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1059.9	Um , So need the other buttons .	function of prototype components, materials and energy sources
-D	1069.35	So we have this mm .	function of prototype
-A	1071.48	So I mean the two remotes that you had shown r I don't remember who showed them , yeah you you did um , they're I mean one looked like it was for V_C_R_ type thing , and the other looked like just television .	function of prototype
-D	1075.56	Mm-hmm .	function of prototype
-C	1075.7	That was that was me .	function of prototype
-C	1084.07	I think w I think they're both sort of just like general remo they're both general remotes .	function of prototype
-A	1087.64	Oh really .	function of prototype
-C	1089.34	And uh Yeah .	function of prototype
-A	1089.41	'Cause that that is something we have to decide , is whether we want to have V_C_R_ capabilities .	function of prototype
-B	1095.43	Does anyone know if V_C_R_s are the same across international ?	function of prototype
-A	1099.99	They're not no .	function of prototype
-D	1100.57	They're not , no .	function of prototype
-B	1101.41	Okay , so you'd need like a whole different set of buttons for everybody's V_C_R_s .	function of prototype
-C	1101.79	S Um Yeah .	function of prototype
-A	1102.98	Yeah , that's right , yeah .	function of prototype
-D	1103.6	It not V_H_S_ here ?	function of prototype
-A	1104.62	But D_V_D_ probably is .	function of prototype
-B	1107.46	Yeah , other than that region and coding thing .	function of prototype
-D	1110.29	But V_C_R_s Yeah .	function of prototype
-A	1110.69	And and if we're if we're targeting young professionals and teenagers , I mean it's gonna be D_V_D_ type , that's the the technology these days .	function of prototype
-D	1116.91	Yeah , for sure .	function of prototype
-B	1117.83	Mm-hmm .	function of prototype
-C	1118.86	So .	look and usability
-C	1119.87	Okay , let's see if I can I think still though , it shouldn't be that hard to take like just reduce the number of buttons you know , like 'cause if you just have like one menu button , that works like with a you know , or you can just kind of scroll through the options u that come up on the T_V_ .	look and usability
-A	1127.64	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1136.63	Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1137.78	Well for sure we need the um I think we can just design the channels ?	look and usability
-D	1145.87	I mean power's just a button , and it's not used that much , s and it's usually that red and I think it's quite nice to keep it like red .	look and usability
-A	1146.51	S Huh .	look and usability
-C	1147.54	Yeah .	look and usability
-B	1147.84	Mm-hmm .	look and usability
-C	1150.07	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1151.66	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1154.12	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1154.98	You know , I've seen some remotes that where you just hold one , like if you hold one down it's it's a different colour than the other buttons but that turns it on .	look and usability
-A	1164.18	So you don't actually have a separate power button , it's just But It might be confusing .	look and usability
-D	1166.52	Oh okay , yeah .	look and usability
-C	1167.72	It seems like that would be hard though .	look and usability
-C	1169.07	I mean , like because unless you know yeah .	look and usability
-A	1172.96	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1173.65	Just 'cause I wouldn't I would probably pick it up and just be like uh why is there no on button .	look and usability
-A	1175.44	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1177.27	Besides you like to be able to go power .	look and usability
-B	1178.12	Yeah , I never think to hold something down .	look and usability
-D	1178.41	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1179.26	I have the power I guess .	look and usability
-C	1179.4	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1179.97	B Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1182.95	So we definitely want a power button and numbers .	look and usability
-C	1185.97	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1186.23	Right .	look and usability
-D	1186.48	Well even um iPod thing , like um , I don't know if people like this but if you want to reduce the number , of buttons , instead of having like one to nine , have a sort of scrolling I don't know .	look and usability
-C	1202.05	That sort of like joystick flat touch thing , yeah .	look and usability
-A	1203.94	Mm .	look and usability
-D	1204.16	Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1205.36	Because people li seem now the iPod's out people seem to like this thing that there's no Know you don't have one two three four five Yeah yeah , it's just and it's one thing which has everything .	look and usability
-C	1212.93	Yeah , yeah .	look and usability
-C	1213.48	I think that's an interesting idea , 'cause it's cool , it's it's funny like you f like I just I don't have an iPod but like I , you know , I just like started messing around with one of my friend's the other day , and you just sort of and it's funny how you pick it up and you just figure out how to use it quite easily , like it's not that hard , you know .	look and usability
-A	1214.72	Mm .	look and usability
-A	1227.65	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1229.73	Yeah , and it is yeah .	look and usability
-C	1231.77	It is really but do you need a screen then , do you have to have a screen then ?	look and usability
-D	1234.82	Well can't it tell the like can't you if you you can have the number on the telly going like one two three four five once you scroll and then It's like l this like that , and then you do that .	look and usability
-B	1237.83	Yeah , you can have the number going around in the corner .	look and usability
-C	1239.1	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1239.87	Okay .	look and usability
-C	1240.6	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1241.72	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1242.82	Okay so we have this like scrolling sort of button .	look and usability
-A	1243.36	Oh that's gonna Is that like on on a mouse pad where like kind of okay .	look and usability
-C	1246.34	Like a disc .	look and usability
-C	1248.29	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1248.97	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1249.21	It's like it's just like the same technology as a mouse pad .	look and usability
-A	1250.88	I've never used one .	look and usability
-A	1252.05	No .	look and usability
-A	1253.67	Okay .	look and usability
-A	1255.35	Okay .	look and usability
-C	1255.35	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1256.87	Yeah and then .	look and usability
-D	1256.92	And then you can have um if you actually just want to zap , you can have like a thing like that , and that , and then it can just be plus and minus .	look and usability
-C	1271.47	Okay .	look and usability
-C	1272.5	So like it's like a little part of the circle that Or it oh so it's just a region of the circle that you can zap .	look and usability
-D	1277.25	Yeah , you can Yeah , click o actually click on to have Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1278.16	Well i We could we could even have four buttons , like , if that's the if that's the mouse , you could have the volume and the channel changers just like on that as well .	look and usability
-C	1281.51	Okay .	look and usability
-C	1290.74	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1291.52	So volume could be like the top it and the bottom So do you need to okay .	look and usability
-B	1294.88	Doesn't it rotate though , so it'll be moving around .	look and usability
-C	1296.77	Well y you have to you have to like be able to change the function of it to like I mean like okay , 'cause so I dunno , I guess Okay so when you g scroll your thumb like around it , it'll s like say you're go you're going clockwise .	look and usability
-D	1301.76	What do you mean the function ?	look and usability
-C	1313.18	That that means you're gonna go up the channels , and then you scroll the other way and it'll go down .	look and usability
-D	1315.67	Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1317.14	Yeah .	look and usability
-B	1317.44	Mm-hmm .	look and usability
-C	1317.5	But then so if you wanna switch to the to u do you have to switch to a function where like y so you're either in that mode or you're in the mode where like it just has like the four like you know this is channel that way , that's that way and volume is up and down .	look and usability
-D	1331.62	Yeah but it knows for some reason .	look and usability
-C	1332.88	It just It just kno the iPod knows .	look and usability
-D	1333.75	The iPod knows .	look and usability
-C	1336.03	S Yeah .	look and usability
-B	1336.24	If it works on an iPod then it works .	look and usability
-A	1338.22	Huh .	look and usability
-C	1338.35	So you just you just can either do this or like you can just touch it if you want .	look and usability
-B	1339.42	I don't have one .	look and usability
-D	1341.76	Well for the volume you have to press the middle , and then go up .	look and usability
-C	1344.36	Okay .	look and usability
-C	1344.74	That's what I mean .	look and usability
-C	1345.48	Okay .	look and usability
-C	1346.84	Okay so you have to like press this middle region and then you can scroll up , go up and down .	look and usability
-B	1348.05	Oh .	look and usability
-D	1351.09	And then well if you do that it goes , but if you like that makes more sense 'cause there's already ones with up and down here , that I've seen .	look and usability
-A	1351.36	So it's like holding You can o And you you is there an extra actual button ?	look and usability
-A	1362.87	Or are you actually you're just using the mouse to go up and down .	look and usability
-D	1366.29	Well what you for the iPod you press an w right if you're on the channel let's say , then you press on the middle and then if you do that again the volume goes up , and if you do that it goes down .	look and usability
-A	1366.82	Like Mm-hmm .	look and usability
-C	1367.24	It's like a b Like I think we can go on the fact that it does just work with the iPod .	look and usability
-A	1372.11	Mm-hmm .	look and usability
-A	1374.57	Right .	look and usability
-A	1375.89	Mm-hmm .	look and usability
-D	1376.15	But if you wanna keep it with volume here and here , I'm pretty sure Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1382.16	Well I mean if if you're gonna this for channels , right , then y wouldn't the volume need to be separate somehow ?	look and usability
-A	1388.94	Like you could just have Oh , like Oh you could actually Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1391.06	I don't know , you could click and then have it up and down , but I think Yeah yeah yeah .	look and usability
-B	1398.45	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1398.7	But the only thing is like , iPods are so expensive , like , it has to be is that part of yeah , I dunno , I dunno .	look and usability
-A	1403.09	Is that what makes them expensi I think it's all of they have so much memory though , that's it's Yeah .	look and usability
-B	1405.27	I don't think so .	look and usability
-C	1406.2	You don't think so ?	look and usability
-B	1407.03	I don't think it's the wheel dealy .	look and usability
-C	1407.03	Okay .	look and usability
-D	1408.12	I think it Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1409.78	I think it's the uh h it's their capabili I mean they it can hold what like five thousand songs or something .	look and usability
-C	1410.02	Okay .	look and usability
-B	1414.39	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1414.75	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1415.53	I'm thinking we could if if we're hav So ba I mean but an iPod just has that circle thing you know .	look and usability
-B	1417.98	And they're re-programmable aren't they ?	look and usability
-B	1419.47	You can put on your songs and then put on a different set , that's probably why they're expensive , they're like little computers .	look and usability
-A	1419.59	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1420.84	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1421.53	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1422.63	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1423.41	S Mm .	look and usability
-C	1423.99	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1425.3	Well like since it just has the circle thing , you could make it a qui a kind of cool shape , like it could be a cool sort of you know , because it could be circular , you know , or something weird like that , just Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1430.13	Yeah .	look and usability
-B	1431.4	Mm-hmm .	look and usability
-D	1434.25	Yeah yeah yeah .	look and usability
-D	1435.98	Well it could just be simple instead of being a l mass .	look and usability
-D	1439.5	Because , the other thing , I didn't tell you all my presentation , is that people find it find that it's a big waste of time to have to learn how to use your remote and that's another thing they complained about .	look and usability
-C	1456.37	Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1457.24	Um , what other buttons were there ?	look and usability
-D	1460.35	Volume oh we've ts just said that .	look and usability
-C	1464.59	So okay .	look and usability
-D	1464.84	Channel selection .	look and usability
-C	1465.43	This is just for T_V_ , it's not for or it is does need to be compatible with Yeah .	look and usability
-B	1469.1	I A D_V_D_ is simple , you just have play , pause , eject , and menu maybe .	look and usability
-A	1469.54	Um You know actually our our new project requirements , I'm not sure if they meant o onl use only for television as in not for D_V_D_ or just not internet type things .	look and usability
-C	1473.68	So how do you switch Okay .	look and usability
-D	1473.76	Menu .	look and usability
-B	1482.52	Oh yeah .	look and usability
-A	1483.98	So I'll I'll check that and update you on the next But we'll hold off on that 'cause But s yeah uh .	look and usability
-C	1486.6	So like if we had that Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1490.99	But D_V_D_ players usually have their own remote .	look and usability
-C	1493.6	That's true , yeah .	look and usability
-A	1494.32	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1495.17	So , I know I'm not c really clear on what Yeah , yeah .	look and usability
-B	1496.22	But it's cool to have it all on one , because you wanna turn it on then you wanna turn up the volume , and then you wanna go to the menu , so you don't wanna switch .	look and usability
-D	1497.7	Yeah , yeah , yeah .	look and usability
-A	1500.46	Mm .	look and usability
-D	1500.73	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1500.88	So you'd have to have like I think you would have to have like a function switch button , you know somewhere so like you can you're either on T_V_ , you're on D_V_D_ or you're on V_C_R_ , or you're like .	look and usability
-A	1501.26	Mm .	look and usability
-A	1509.27	Yeah .	look and usability
-B	1510.24	Well but D_V_D_ is only like four buttons .	look and usability
-C	1510.33	So Yeah , but I mean like to switch the fun so like to switch the function of the little circle disc , the touch pad .	look and usability
-D	1512.52	Yeah , it is only fun Okay .	look and usability closing
-A	1514.09	But i Yeah .	look and usability
-B	1518.49	Oh .	look and usability
-B	1518.82	But I think the circle only does channel isn't applicable to D_V_D_ really 'cause you don't wanna but volume is and volume is actually controlled on the T_V_ so you don't have to switch .	look and usability
-A	1548.08	Um , yeah , let's think about it 'cause we need to wrap up .	closing
-B	1548.29	Yes we can try that .	closing
-A	1550.99	Um let's see .	closing
-A	1553.55	Um so everyone's gonna go finish their questionnaire , uh then when we come back after lunch we'll have thirty minutes of individual work , um yeah , so think about the things we've discussed and bring some new ideas to our next meeting .	closing
-A	1570.94	See you soon .	closing

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-A	74.59	Hi everyone , hope you had a nice lunch .	opening
-A	77.96	Um .	opening
-A	79.62	Alright we're moving on to conceptual design .	opening
-C	84.84	'Scuse me .	opening
-D	86.03	Bless you .	opening
-A	88.02	Um , I'll just review what we did in our last meeting .	opening
-A	92.44	Um , under marketing we targeted our audience , and Um , yeah .	opening
-A	101.12	That was generally how helpful that was .	opening
-A	106.13	Um , then we considered some design options with how it should look , um , we discussed an iPod-like button system which , uh , we haven't concluded but we're Right , um So , if you all have presentations to do , we can see what where you've come from our last time .	industrial designer presentation opening
-A	134.77	Does everyone have presentations ?	industrial designer presentation
-B	135.29	Hmm .	industrial designer presentation
-D	136.72	Yeah .	industrial designer presentation
-C	136.86	Yes .	industrial designer presentation
-A	137.28	Okay .	industrial designer presentation
-B	137.3	Yes .	industrial designer presentation
-A	138.32	Would anybody like to go first ?	industrial designer presentation
-B	141.06	Sure .	industrial designer presentation
-A	141.94	Okay .	industrial designer presentation
-B	161.56	So I've been looking at the components design .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	165.68	Um .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	167.38	Mostly by consulting remote control diagrams from the internet and also by incorporating design ideas from the last project meeting .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	175.35	Um , so we need some custom design parts , and other parts we'll just use standard .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	181.0	Um , I assume we'll be custom designing our case , probably a hard plastic or some other material case , to protect the remote and the locator .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	190.16	And we'll need to custom desi design a circuit board , because the circuit board has to take the button input and send it to the output so you have to design that each time .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	199.92	But once we come up with a design we'll send it to the circuit people and they'll just print it out .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	204.39	Um , standard parts include the buttons and the wheels , um the iPod-style wheel .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	209.37	The infrared L_E_D_ is actually gonna be included in the circuit board that comes with it .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	213.92	Um , we need a radio sender and receiver , those are standard .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	216.71	And al we also need a beeper or buzzer or other sort of noise thing for locating the remote .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	223.54	So we have some material options .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	225.19	Um , we can use rubber , plastic , wood or titanium .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	229.14	Um , I'd recommend against titanium because it can only be used in the flat cases and it's really heavy .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	235.18	Um , and the rubber case requires rubber buttons , so if we definitely want plastic buttons , we shouldn't have a rubber case .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	243.83	And why not wood ?	components, materials and energy sources
-B	243.83	And , hmm ?	components, materials and energy sources
-A	245.09	And why not wood ?	components, materials and energy sources
-B	247.74	Uh , well we can use wood .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	248.87	I don't know why we'd want to .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	251.22	Um and also we should note that if we want an iPod-style wheel button , it's gonna require a m qu slightly more expensive chip .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	257.23	We can't use the minimal chip , we need the next higher grade , which is called regular .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	262.18	I don't think it's much more expensive , but it is more expensive .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	265.94	So that's what I've got on design .	industrial designer presentation
-A	271.33	'S good .	industrial designer presentation
-D	279.28	Um , can I do next ?	marketing expert presentation
-D	280.59	'Cause I have to say something about the material which is quite shocking .	marketing expert presentation
-A	281.85	Hmm .	marketing expert presentation
-C	282.55	Yeah .	marketing expert presentation
-D	292.78	Ha .	marketing expert presentation
-D	293.49	Mm .	marketing expert presentation
-D	310.16	Right , um , I have been searching the current trends , um , both on the web and via fashion-watchers , and the findings are that the first thing to aim for is a fashion uh , fancy look and feel .	trendwatching
-D	325.71	Um .	trendwatching
-D	326.58	Next comes technologic technology and the innovations to do with that .	trendwatching
-D	331.85	And th last thing is the easy to use um factor .	trendwatching
-D	338.07	Um , fancy look and feel goes far beyond the functionality of the thing , but I suppose that is included in in the ease of use .	trendwatching
-D	347.27	Um , our fashion-watchers in Milan and Paris have decided , well noticed , that f the fruit and vegetable theme is the is the current trend and and therefore um we need to go for that if we want , you know , wh whatever our motto is .	trendwatching
-D	369.57	Um .	trendwatching
-D	370.9	For fashion , we go for fashion .	trendwatching
-A	371.48	Mm .	marketing expert presentation
-D	373.11	The fashion in electronics .	trendwatching
-D	374.65	So we want to put the fashion electronics , we need to go fruit and vegetables .	trendwatching
-D	378.84	And also go for a spongy feel , so the the question of our technology whate is Industrial Designer .	trendwatching
-D	389.34	As to the material should be limited to I don't know how spongy it can be , should discuss this together , I don't know how spongy can be achieved but apparently that's the way to go .	trendwatching
-D	401.62	Um .	marketing expert presentation
-D	402.97	I I have been thinking about this fruit and vegetable thing and I prefer fruits to vegetables , but that's just a personal opinion .	marketing expert presentation
-D	412.45	I think I think people like to have a fruit instead of a vegetables in their sitting room .	marketing expert presentation
-D	418.02	Uh those are just suggestions and also we need to decide whether this should be printed , so that still has to do with the material discuss should we print the fruit stuff , or should the actual remote look like a fruit ?	marketing expert presentation
-D	431.64	Um , and finally again with the spongy .	marketing expert presentation
-D	435.96	It has to be technologically innovative so maybe again our Industrial Designer should look into that or find come up with a solution that's better than mine .	marketing expert presentation
-D	446.51	Um , yeah , to summarise these are the points that need to be um , touched in order to get a good decision , and hopefully our User Interface has more to say about the matter .	marketing expert presentation
-C	460.49	Mm-hmm .	marketing expert presentation
-D	461.03	Thank you for your attention .	marketing expert presentation
-C	477.83	So .	marketing expert presentation
-A	480.83	I think it's the next it's the blue one , yeah .	interface specialist presentation
-C	481.74	Oh , uh , there we go .	interface specialist presentation
-C	484.93	Uh .	interface specialist presentation
-C	489.77	Okay .	interface specialist presentation
-C	490.45	Um .	interface specialist presentation
-C	491.81	Well so that fruit and vegetables thing huh .	interface specialist presentation
-C	495.22	I actually wasn't aware of the new trends in electronics and and uh So so okay , let me get this right .	interface specialist presentation
-D	500.28	Neither was I .	interface specialist presentation
-D	500.95	Well it's a trend in fashion , in clothing and um fabrics .	interface specialist presentation
-A	505.35	Yeah but you're not gonna wear your remote control .	interface specialist presentation
-C	512.27	Okay , uh Okay , alright anyway .	interface specialist presentation
-C	515.67	Um here we go .	look and usability
-C	517.53	Conceptual User Interface .	look and usability
-C	519.06	Trying we're gonna try to talk about , um what kind of uh how people are actually going to be using this iPod-ish remote control , based on fruit vegetable design .	look and usability
-C	531.76	And , um , basically , so , this is a touched ba a touch-based graphical interface system .	look and usability
-C	539.16	Uh , so people are going to be looking at this little screen .	look and usability
-C	542.34	Um , kind of I mean I assume , are we still on the screen idea ?	look and usability
-A	546.39	Oh we s hadn't discussed it last time .	look and usability
-C	548.98	'Cause if we're gonna have to ha if we have this it just seems like in order to have someone going around and using the um the wheel you it seems like you would need a screen .	look and usability
-A	559.18	You need a screen for it ?	look and usability
-B	561.43	You need a screen with music because you're looking for a specific song , like you know that band or whatever .	look and usability
-C	565.66	But like if you think about it yeah but if so is it just okay .	look and usability
-B	566.11	With T_V_ channels it's , you know , one two three .	look and usability
-B	568.41	So Yeah .	look and usability
-C	570.21	So , b you you're gonna have to switch to like D_V_D_ and like other things like that , aren't you ?	look and usability
-A	574.43	We're , um , we're actually not having D_V_D_ , that was one of th I I was sorry , I I meant to update you on that .	look and usability
-C	575.45	Are we Okay .	look and usability
-C	580.16	Alright .	look and usability
-C	581.33	Okay .	look and usability
-A	581.49	Um .	look and usability
-D	581.69	But the screen can come up on the telly , the she said .	look and usability
-C	584.05	Okay .	look and usability
-D	584.9	That correct ?	look and usability
-C	584.91	Okay .	look and usability
-B	585.19	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	585.67	So anyway if well we just we need to Okay so if we're not gonna have a screen I think I was thinking okay .	look and usability
-C	593.34	So basically it's just gonna be a wheel then ?	look and usability
-C	596.33	And you're just gonna I mean I think you're gonna have to have some kind of a right .	look and usability
-D	600.2	Graphical interface ?	look and usability
-C	601.14	Yeah like you're g yeah like you're gonna have to be able to switch to like a mode where you can okay we're not choosing that , I guess .	look and usability
-D	601.45	Uh on the you can have it on the telly though .	look and usability
-A	603.72	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	607.92	But like choose channel control , like if you wa Because people aren't gonna be able to have like , um , you know , channels one two three four five six seven eight nine .	look and usability
-A	616.59	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	617.39	So that people seems to be well You know .	look and usability
-A	619.15	You've Yeah , I know what you're saying , you have to But but imagine someone with s But i what if you have satellite and you have like two hundred channels .	look and usability
-C	621.19	But you're gonna have to scroll to get channels .	look and usability
-C	623.48	So um I guess that's wh why I was thinking you may need to have some kind of a screen because So that people can go arou go back and forth and choose if or or then again if you just I guess I c I can see like some kind of a thing where like you sort of have like the number come up on the T_V_ like what channel you're on .	look and usability
-D	642.64	Yeah , yeah , yeah .	look and usability
-C	643.52	You can just scroll and you can just get to like five or like twelve or I oh yeah ?	look and usability
-B	643.71	Yeah .	look and usability
-D	644.37	Yeah , yeah .	look and usability
-B	647.14	My flatmates actually had one with a wheel , and it it did show up on the T_V_ .	look and usability
-A	654.28	Then to get to channel one eighty nine you have to Yeah .	look and usability
-C	654.56	'Cause you'll have to like but you can quickly s you can Yeah .	look and usability
-D	655.67	Yeah .	look and usability
-B	656.55	They have to r wheel really fast .	look and usability
-B	658.93	But I think the wheel goes through like a hundred channels , at least on theirs .	look and usability
-D	660.46	Yeah , yeah , yeah .	look and usability
-C	662.55	Yeah if you do , it w so it would have to be you I mean so you basically just kinda need to figure out like what kind of , you know , range we need to have on the wheel , and um So you're either you're you know , th you're either doing this motion to like control the channels or like once once you stop that , you know , you can like tap for , um , different uh , whatchamacallits , different um , you know , functions like volume or , like you can tap just to get to different channels .	look and usability
-A	683.24	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	695.92	Like if you just wanted to go to like from five to six you could tap or someth And then there's also the concern about you know um how do you get to the menu if you wanna change the brightness of your television , or if you want to um you know switch around , I don't know , like , these different modes like turn on the timer or like something something like that , like I would think so too , like So I mean and it seems it w it does seem a little silly to have this screen if you hardly are ever using it , you know , because but then again it would it does make kind of if the screen's sort of just like an option that , like , is just there and you're not really using it , that's kind of m yeah .	look and usability
-A	699.93	Right .	look and usability
-A	716.46	Yeah I mean with that many options , you'd uh I'd think that the screen would be better , because you could have that menu option , sort of Yeah .	look and usability
-A	739.17	Yeah .	look and usability
-B	739.79	It's more expensive according to the design people .	look and usability
-A	741.75	Uh .	look and usability
-C	742.47	Yeah , that's the only thing though .	look and usability
-B	743.14	You have to get a an advanced chip if you wanna have a screen in , which is more expensive than the regular chip , which is more expensive than the minimal .	look and usability
-C	749.06	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	749.85	So then basically it has to have some way to get to get to a mode on the television where you're doing , um You can get to you know , you can Like maybe it'll be that central button that , like , then you hit that and then you can it brings up like the menu on the T_V_ and you can just scroll around , like , to do the timer , to do the yeah , yeah .	look and usability
-A	750.42	Mm .	look and usability
-D	762.77	Yeah , yeah , yeah .	look and usability
-B	763.34	Mm-hmm .	look and usability
-A	763.83	Mm .	look and usability
-D	766.88	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	767.4	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	768.17	So the T_V_ is the screen , that yeah So it would have all these different options of changing to Okay .	look and usability
-C	773.78	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	775.39	But the remote itself isn't really cluttered up .	look and usability
-D	776.87	Look it even has settings .	look and usability
-C	779.51	Hmm ?	look and usability
-D	779.53	On the you can just take theirs and just Yeah but should be comfortable .	look and usability
-A	780.05	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	781.45	Yeah , well we don't want the screen I guess , but um 'cause that just it does seem like , it that would be , like , incredibly expensive , but I dunno , and then so , it just im really all you need is , like , this little wheel then , and you can control everything .	look and usability
-A	782.19	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	798.32	So Yeah .	look and usability
-A	802.22	Um , right .	look and usability
-A	805.99	What if I mean , if you're thinking of the design of it now , like the a you know , physical attributes , um , and you just have this , it's like just a long silver thing , or whatever we're thinking .	look and usability
-A	819.77	I mean are you you gonna have any buttons on that besides power and this thing ?	look and usability
-A	824.19	Or Yeah .	look and usability
-C	825.12	It doesn't seem that you would need anything besides pow I mean and the power button could even be like hold down the menu button for like longer than one second and it turns on the T_V_ .	look and usability
-A	834.74	So can we imagine that this would be smaller than the remote controls that you showed us before .	look and usability
-A	840.02	I mean okay .	look and usability
-C	840.02	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	840.53	Yeah definitely .	look and usability
-C	841.25	Like , I think we're looking at something that could be , like like even maybe like a cir I'm f I'm seeing almost like a circular sort of like handheld like thing .	look and usability
-C	850.28	I mean it it needs to be easy to somehow it needs to be easy to like manipulate and use your I mean how do how do I'm not really Like when I use an iPod , I end up just kind of using my index finger to like control it .	look and usability
-A	850.69	Yeah .	look and usability
-B	850.93	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	852.05	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	856.45	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	866.87	Yeah , I've seen some people just going like that with their thumb , yeah .	look and usability
-C	867.28	So Yeah .	look and usability
-D	868.97	Yeah I use it like that .	look and usability
-C	869.15	Or your thumb or something .	look and usability
-B	870.36	W when we had the wheely remote control , we it was on the top I think , if you held it like that .	look and usability
-C	870.4	So Yeah .	look and usability
-A	874.74	Yeah .	look and usability
-D	875.25	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	876.8	Yeah , so Mm yeah .	look and usability
-A	876.88	But , were there buttons on there as well ?	look and usability
-B	878.72	Yeah well it had the wheely thing and then it had those eighteen different buttons that I don't know what they do .	look and usability
-A	881.63	Mm .	look and usability
-A	882.67	Yeah .	look and usability
-B	882.74	So we just used the top part .	look and usability
-A	884.6	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	885.04	Yeah , so but I mean I think it could be pretty small .	look and usability
-D	885.13	Uh .	look and usability
-C	887.76	Like , I d I mean , you you want it to be large enough that you can But can't you just get K Yeah , But , I mean , do you need that ?	look and usability
-A	892.13	What if , um , you had like a b a cover that went over buttons that you don't use very much ?	look and usability
-A	898.73	Like you so you could slide it up if you needed to like change the contrast or something like that ?	look and usability
-A	903.98	So the options are there but they're not in interfering with the design and the practicality of it .	look and usability
-A	912.65	Do do you know what I'm talking about though ?	look and usability
-B	913.43	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	913.81	Like , uh , yeah just something Yeah , that you can flip over , yeah , yeah .	look and usability
-B	914.51	Yeah like maybe something on the side where you slip a panel down and it's got a whole bunch of Yeah .	look and usability
-D	915.89	Well you can have it on the settings , no ?	look and usability
-C	919.89	If if you can get to , you know if so long as you're able to bring up the menu on the T_V_ screen .	look and usability
-A	926.01	Yeah I mean I guess that's the thing is is if w I if we can do this , that'd probably be Yeah , yeah .	look and usability
-C	927.09	That keeps it really Yeah .	look and usability
-C	931.89	Uh you wouldn't I don't I just don't think you would even need it .	look and usability
-C	934.64	So Mean I mean you can do it , you it's it doesn't seem that hard .	look and usability components, materials and energy sources
-A	935.86	So I guess we have to look into the , um , like , the programming , how this how they actually programme these things , and if that's yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	944.02	Oh how they make the menu show up on the T_V_ ?	components, materials and energy sources
-B	947.39	I don't know .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	947.77	I mean it would y would that would be Huh .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	947.95	They already do it .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	949.18	I believe it's ins it's gotta be inside the T_V_ , not inside the remote .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	953.8	I mean I've never bought a remote .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	954.45	I'm not sure .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	954.95	It sounds like this remote's going to be purchased separately from the television , which is a little My I've never bought just a remote , like , so I don't I don't really know .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	957.98	Well they usually are .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	959.17	Well I guess that's right .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	961.72	No .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	962.79	But um So , um but I mean it's I've never had a hard time with like my remotes , like bringing up the menu screen if you need to like change the date or whatever , you know .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	964.4	It always comes with the T_V_ .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	976.57	And I don't think that should uh that should be too hard .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	979.72	Yeah , it most of the ones we've had have had the menu button , 'cause it's not like you need to have a button access to like change the contrast or something .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	986.56	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	986.92	'Cause it just doesn't come up every day or something .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	989.2	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	990.55	Well so So , do we need I dunno .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	995.72	Well I guess we have to you know think about But I mean you just basically need the output signal you know to be able to bring it up .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1001.15	Mm-hmm .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1001.75	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1003.36	Okay .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1003.89	That's what it does anyway .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1004.64	But also if you have it on the screen you can actually write everything out , because the problem with buttons is you like , they have these sort of abbreviations and codes that you're supposed to understand , and I never get it .	interface specialist presentation
-C	1014.02	Yeah .	interface specialist presentation
-B	1014.44	Yeah .	interface specialist presentation
-A	1014.7	Yeah , you don't know they mean , yeah , it's like yeah .	interface specialist presentation
-C	1017.86	Yeah .	interface specialist presentation
-D	1017.99	Never ever .	interface specialist presentation
-D	1019.68	So Well on the telly .	interface specialist presentation
-C	1019.99	So , but oh , you mean if we have this screen like the iPod screen ?	interface specialist presentation
-B	1024.23	Or on the T_V_ too .	interface specialist presentation
-C	1024.72	On the telly , okay , yeah .	interface specialist presentation
-C	1025.98	So yeah I think , I mean , I think I think the touch-based graphical interface is a really uh cool idea because you know it is so obnoxious to like have to push those like okay now I hit this you know , you have your little guide out and you're like , hit this button twice , like to activate the date .	interface specialist presentation
-A	1039.26	Mm .	interface specialist presentation
-D	1039.88	Mm .	interface specialist presentation
-A	1040.3	And it is technologically innovative in a way , so that fits with the B Yeah .	interface specialist presentation
-C	1043.03	Yeah .	interface specialist presentation
-C	1043.42	I guess .	interface specialist presentation
-C	1045.02	And it is trendy , the iPods are really hot right now , so Um , yeah , by web research , yeah , so Oh .	interface specialist presentation components, materials and energy sources
-D	1047.98	Did you did you get that pc picture on did they provide you with that picture on the web ?	interface specialist presentation
-D	1055.69	That's quite interesting .	interface specialist presentation
-D	1058.16	What are we going to do about this vegetable thing that I'm dreading ?	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1061.32	Oh god .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1062.61	Oh , I was gonna say .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1063.71	You said uh people want spongy .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1066.21	Um , one of your one of the material options is a sort of rubber that's in like those stress ball things .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1066.33	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1066.48	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1071.68	So , that would be spongy .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1071.84	Oh , okay , that would be cool .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1072.39	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1072.47	Ah .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1073.38	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1073.74	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1074.26	Mm .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1075.4	Just nice feel , but I hate spongy .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1077.91	Yeah , c that's e that would be kind of oh , you know , usually like the touch pad things are kind of a hard plastic typ mouse type , you know , thing .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1078.39	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1083.54	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1085.0	But what if we ha what if we had like a spongy sort of like stress balley kinda so you're like Or what if we integrated the the uh the f what if the whole thing about the fruit and vegetables we somehow made it tactilely fash you know , we c tapped into that , so like it feels like a vegetable .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1085.28	I mean definitely the area round it .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1092.36	Yeah I think it could work .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1093.54	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1104.9	Well it could be like mobiles that just you just put a cover .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1105.46	An orange .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1105.65	Don't think I'd want it to feel like a banana .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1109.72	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1110.01	If it's a small thing , you c instead of creating an object for it that looks like a banana , which frankly I'm not particularly fond of , um you could just have covers and then your mobile f it's like a mobile phone thing .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1123.85	You know you had there was a time when they had all these different covers for mobiles .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1124.16	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1124.38	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1126.65	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1126.89	You could do like the computers where they have like the grapefruit , apple machine and they have like the blueberry , like all the colours are named after fruits .	look and usability
-D	1132.62	Yeah , yeah , yeah .	look and usability
-A	1132.94	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1134.34	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1134.37	Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1134.73	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1134.93	You could name it after fruits and vegetables , or Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1137.19	And it could the colour can fit your sitting room , so if you have red sitting room you can have strawberry , and then if you have a green one you can have well I don't know .	look and usability
-D	1145.49	Um .	look and usability
-A	1146.86	So what if what this is I'm just forming this idea in my head of how this thing is looking .	look and usability
-C	1147.07	So I think yeah , colours .	look and usability
-A	1152.88	If you have like that stress ball material kind of as what you're actually holding in your hand , so like what you're feeling is comfortable , and then there's more of a hard plastic thing where that thing is .	look and usability
-D	1161.67	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1163.4	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1164.29	And on that hard plastic thing you can change either the colour or the fruit or vegetable that's on there .	look and usability
-C	1171.39	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1171.7	Is that kind of I 'cause I I'm thinking of silver because those are our company colours .	look and usability
-C	1175.62	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1176.49	Um I mean how are you how are you all envisioning by what we've just the feedback we've just got about the A ball ?	look and usability
-C	1177.19	Unfortunately they don't have silver fruits and vegetables .	look and usability
-C	1180.07	I do I dunno .	look and usability
-C	1181.02	Um That's in the shape of a fruit , like a Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1191.52	Maybe a ball .	look and usability
-D	1196.29	Know , a squashy ball .	look and usability
-D	1198.98	A relaxing squashy ball .	look and usability
-D	1205.7	That you can p well I see you're thinking , it's weird , you're thinking the opposite of me 'cause you're thinking you change the the hard bit and I'm thinking how do you change the hard would you put a um sticker sort of ?	look and usability
-A	1212.61	Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1219.89	Because I was thinking if you have a cover for the squashy bit , like a Oh , okay , yeah .	look and usability
-A	1225.33	This is just Okay .	look and usability
-A	1228.07	Say that's the s say that's the squashy bit .	look and usability
-A	1230.34	Squashy .	look and usability
-D	1230.79	Yeah I was thinking of getting a cover for Which is cheaper .	look and usability
-A	1234.04	That see I was thinking this s sorry I was thinking this bit here would be the cover and like that's your actual thing .	look and usability
-D	1236.51	Well I don't know if it's cheaper actually .	look and usability
-B	1237.47	Oh .	look and usability
-B	1237.92	Mm .	look and usability
-A	1244.17	And like this you could have like you could have like cherries and things around there .	look and usability
-C	1244.85	Oh I like that shape .	look and usability
-C	1247.4	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1250.33	Um but I was thinking if it was like this 'cause the way you were describing the the iPod and the thi the roll thingy It's almost like your thumb is farther up , so if if you could squish it lower then Yeah , I know what you meant , yeah .	look and usability
-B	1250.55	I was thinking sort of a single ball shape .	look and usability
-C	1253.6	Yeah .	look and usability
-B	1254.07	So you're holding a squishy ball and then it has a Mm-hmm .	look and usability
-C	1258.95	It's like it has to be s yeah .	look and usability
-B	1262.8	Yeah I guess so .	look and usability
-C	1263.99	Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1264.4	Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1265.69	So it wouldn't be very big in either like how big ?	look and usability
-D	1268.56	This big , and then you just do that , I suppose .	look and usability
-C	1270.81	What if , yeah , what if the squishy , oh so so you're saying the squishy part's like detachable , and you can so so maybe one you know you can have like the broccoli squishy thing , and then you could have like the banana squishy thing and you could get you could have your choice , you know ?	look and usability
-D	1286.23	Well just a li I can't des like condom thingy , like a a cover .	look and usability
-D	1293.2	But well the question is , which one's easiest to change and we can just contact our relevant department for that , and just see what the cost is for covering that or covering that , and for now we can do two prototypes maybe and then hi try and ask users what the best is , and No .	look and usability
-A	1297.11	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1300.55	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1303.31	Yeah , yeah .	look and usability
-A	1303.84	Mm .	look and usability
-C	1307.22	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1309.08	Okay .	look and usability
-A	1311.19	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1311.33	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1312.32	Okay .	look and usability
-C	1313.34	Oh .	look and usability
-D	1313.82	Um .	look and usability
-D	1314.36	That's nicer .	look and usability
-D	1315.15	I think it's nicer to have a drawing 'cause it's neater .	look and usability
-C	1315.88	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1318.79	Hmm .	look and usability
-D	1319.97	Um .	look and usability
-A	1320.39	Well that's not very neat , but Mm-hmm .	look and usability
-C	1322.29	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1322.94	I mean I think uh and I think the handhe I think the handheld part is definitely So you could make that into the fruit and vegetable part .	look and usability
-D	1333.99	If it's a bit like those juggling balls , you can change shape according to your to the way you hold it .	look and usability
-B	1340.11	Yeah you could squish it .	look and usability
-D	1340.6	If it's got sand in it maybe , or something , you it it just moulds to your hand .	look and usability
-A	1343.46	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1346.34	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1348.04	So where are the fruit and vegetables now ?	look and usability
-D	1350.55	We we don't know .	look and usability
-C	1350.75	Fruits and veg .	look and usability
-B	1351.16	I guess they would be either in the colour of that plastic face on the front , or in the colour of the squishy thing underneath .	look and usability
-C	1354.12	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1354.52	Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1356.72	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1357.65	Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1358.26	And the rest is the company the company colour's silver ?	look and usability
-A	1362.26	It was , yeah , silver and yellow .	look and usability
-A	1364.26	It l it looks like I don't Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1366.67	We could promote the banana one .	look and usability
-D	1367.2	Okay .	look and usability
-C	1370.0	Like mm .	look and usability
-A	1372.36	I mean that's another question , where are we gonna we we should have the logo somewhere on it .	look and usability
-C	1377.35	Mm .	look and usability
-D	1377.36	Mm-hmm .	look and usability
-D	1378.57	Should also fit the batteries , which we haven't Okay .	look and usability
-C	1381.35	Oh yeah .	look and usability
-A	1381.37	Yeah .	look and usability
-B	1381.79	I think the batteries would have to go right under the plastic case .	look and usability
-A	1383.76	Yeah , th and that would that Mm-hmm .	look and usability
-C	1384.26	Yeah .	look and usability
-B	1385.59	Especially if you're switching out the squishy part .	look and usability
-B	1387.85	Then you need to have the other part just be sort of a single unit that you can snap off .	look and usability
-D	1391.92	Mm-hmm .	look and usability
-C	1393.95	Yeah , I think , um it'd be interesting to have the b the squishy bit .	look and usability
-C	1403.29	The part that you , yeah , can change into the different , you know , trendy vegetables and fruits .	look and usability
-C	1409.6	But uh it Yeah .	look and usability
-B	1411.62	Well I dunno .	look and usability
-B	1412.0	You'd spend so much time like squishing it to your own personal hand .	look and usability
-B	1415.32	Then you'd get a new one and you'd have to do it all over again .	look and usability
-D	1418.55	No but it does it automatically .	look and usability
-D	1421.54	Does it automatically ?	look and usability
-C	1422.06	Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1422.75	I don't know .	look and usability
-A	1423.38	I don't know what the rest of my notes mean because they were made for me .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1429.26	Okay .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1429.6	But if someone components concept .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1433.1	Question mark .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1433.99	Energy .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1434.69	Question mark .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1434.77	That was me .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1435.79	Was that you ?	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1436.38	Yes .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1436.88	Okay .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1437.15	Oh right right .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1437.83	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1439.1	Um , so what d but what do we know about energy ?	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1443.17	I mean we're gonna use batteries right ?	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1444.71	Uh we actually had an option of batteries , solar power , and um a dynamo , which is something I don't know what it is .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1444.96	And I think batteries sound good .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1451.65	Something to do with torches .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1451.8	Oh , a dynamo is ah , it's a bicycle .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1455.14	It's a bicycle mechanism .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1456.6	It's the en it's like if if something moves , when it moves , it stores energy .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1460.5	Oh okay .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1461.55	Yeah , the other one was the other one was a kinetic thing where you'd basically have to wind it yourself .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1467.07	So I sort of picked battery .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1467.43	It's quite sweet .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1469.2	We could have talked about doing a wind-up or a dynamo or a solar power .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1474.87	Um but I think solar power's not available with the rubber case anyways .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1478.68	It it seems a little weird for a living room anyways .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1480.03	What does everyone else think ?	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1480.32	No .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1481.25	The dynamo would be interesting .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1482.2	But dynamo the the fact with dynamo is , the moment you move it , it c it creates energy on its own .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1490.18	Oh .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1490.51	What about Kryptonite ?	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1490.88	Which is quite cool .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1491.53	So if you throw it , it's gonna store loads of energy , and you don't need to buy a battery 'cause they're quite f I find them annoying .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1497.79	But we need to find cost .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1499.83	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1502.24	Don't know the cost .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1505.08	Didn't have enough data to actually All it said was it gave sort of relative , some chips are more expensive than others , sort of things .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1505.28	Does anyone have costs on the on the web ?	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1513.1	It didn't give me any actual cost .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1514.37	Okay .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1516.37	Right .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1517.35	Hmm .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1517.39	Mm .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1518.57	Most of the stuff is pretty cheap though bought in bulk .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1520.6	So I don't think it's that much of a problem .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1524.91	Like the chip is probably the most expensive part .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1528.28	What does chip on print mean ?	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1530.42	Um , for things like remote controls , um , they stamp out a chip , calculators too I think .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1535.73	Uh-huh .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1537.71	Um , so you can mass produce 'em pretty cheap .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1539.89	Okay .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1540.38	But it's not like a computer , you can't like reprogramme your remo remote controls , it's like stamped onto the chip .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1543.6	Right .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1545.17	So , chip on print is just means like that they're mass-produced .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1547.87	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1548.85	Okay .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1550.13	And case ?	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1551.5	Uh I guess that's what we've been talking about , yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1551.78	Case is what we were discussing yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1553.07	Casing .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1553.78	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1555.07	thinking of like syntactic case and thi um let's see .	discussion components, materials and energy sources
-A	1567.36	Is there anything else we need to talk about ?	discussion
-C	1570.65	Hmm .	discussion
-A	1572.06	Oh when we move on , you two are going to be playing with play-dough .	closing
-A	1577.91	Um , and working on the look and feel of the design and user interface design .	closing
-A	1584.14	And you're gonna be doing protu product evaluation .	closing
-A	1589.83	So you'll get mm m more instructions from your personal coach .	closing
-D	1594.21	Oh , thank you .	closing
-A	1594.72	Mm .	closing
-C	1594.95	Cool .	closing
-A	1595.76	See you soon .	closing
-A	1599.27	Does it matter that I end early ?	closing
-A	1604.23	How how early is it ?	closing

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-A	64.98	'Kay .	opening
-A	67.57	Hmm .	opening
-A	69.49	Okay everybody .	opening
-A	70.62	Welcome to the detailed design meeting .	opening
-A	74.03	Um Let's see .	opening
-A	77.08	Our agenda .	opening
-A	78.86	Last time we discussed the squishy fruitiness of our remote controls and how we might pursue that .	opening
-A	87.36	Um and I think looks like we've come up with some ideas .	opening
-A	91.6	Um and we also talked about materials we'd use and what kind of chip would be necessary .	opening
-A	98.76	Um so for later in the meeting I've done a a spreadsheet of production costs so we'll take a look at that .	opening
-A	107.29	Um and see if it's changed at all from when we last discussed it .	opening
-A	112.93	Um so actually I think Yeah um f you guys wanna give a prototype presentation of Oh is that broccoli ?	look and usability presentation of prototype(s)
-B	129.31	Okay well um .	look and usability
-B	132.87	So our design looks something like this .	look and usability
-B	135.77	This being the wheel that you use to uh change channels or volume or whatever .	look and usability
-B	140.34	This is a button , serves as the power button if you hold it down , and if you just tap on it I think it brings up the menu .	look and usability
-B	148.82	And uh the base of the remote control , which has a squishy spongy rubbery feel , is interchangeable .	look and usability
-B	154.94	So you can change the colour , according to your to suit your living room or whatever .	look and usability
-B	159.6	And it comes yeah , I can change the vegetable .	look and usability
-C	159.62	You could change the vegetable , or fruit .	look and usability
-B	163.2	This one's broccoli .	look and usability
-C	163.29	Yeah .	look and usability
-B	165.11	So this snaps off and you can put on whichever one you want .	look and usability
-B	167.98	This is not to scale 'cause it would have the battery inside it .	look and usability
-B	171.6	This is a mango .	look and usability
-B	172.7	The it's trendy fruit , it's not just ordinary fruits .	look and usability
-B	174.81	You don't have orange , you have mango .	look and usability
-B	177.11	Um I guess strawberry's not as trendy , but So we'll come up with a variety of trendy and exciting fruit designs for the remote control .	look and usability
-A	179.0	'S a very bright strawberry .	look and usability
-C	189.7	It's been a l It's been a little bit difficult to um make sure that it's hand-holdable , and that the user can use it , you know , it's not too big .	look and usability
-B	189.74	And then people will be encouraged to buy three or five of them , because they'll need to switch 'em out .	look and usability
-C	203.8	Uh but we think that this you know , this size will be okay and we will have to fit the battery case in there somehow .	look and usability
-B	212.42	Mm-hmm .	look and usability
-A	213.13	Oh yeah .	look and usability components, materials and energy sources
-C	213.21	And I guess the only other thing that we really didn't talk about was or design yet actually , would be the um thing the locator .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	223.32	How how so Okay so that's just So you have to have a button on your on your you have to attach the button to the Yeah we have that that has yes yet to be designed .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	224.35	Well the locator is just chip that's inside there .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	227.61	And the beeper's also inside there too somewhere .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	233.81	Yeah we didn't design that .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	236.45	But it would be coordinating with that of course .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	238.56	Yeah that c hey that that could you know match the handset .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	239.22	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	241.88	Mm-hmm .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	243.24	You could have a broccoli , or you could have a mango .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	247.39	So .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	248.2	Tada .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	248.58	Oh .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	250.76	Um if you wanna look in your project documents folder , there's an Excel spreadsheet .	costing
-A	260.83	Um the only one that's in there , production costs .	costing
-A	265.34	And if you open it up .	costing
-A	267.03	Um I've just stuck the numbers in , it was a real challenge there .	costing
-A	271.31	But if I missed anything that we've gone over , or if you see something that has changed I mean , we decided on batteries , and the regular chip would be necessary for the more advanced iPod-like button .	costing
-A	290.98	Um I said uncurved or flat .	costing
-A	295.01	I think that's what you have there , is that right ?	costing
-A	297.26	For the for the plastic part would be Oh .	costing
-B	298.82	My impression was that flat meant like like one of those square remotes .	costing
-B	303.51	But it's really not very clear , because you got single curve and double curve and d I dunno what that means .	costing
-A	304.48	Okay .	costing
-A	307.31	Right .	costing
-B	310.03	One side is curved and then the other side is curved .	costing
-A	314.06	Well yeah .	costing
-A	315.5	If we're talking about the area just oh I d I dunno .	costing
-A	320.75	I guess we'd have to contact the company that makes them and see .	costing
-A	327.03	Um so what else ?	costing
-A	328.93	There's plastic for that area around the button .	costing
-A	333.14	Um and then rubber would be the squishy like thing right ?	costing
-B	336.45	Mm-hmm .	costing
-A	337.76	Um and lots of special colours actually .	costing
-A	343.58	Uh scroll wheel .	costing
-A	344.81	Do you see anything that I've missed ?	costing
-B	347.07	No I think that's alright .	costing
-A	348.99	Okay so that would make our total of eleven point nine , which is even less than twelve point five , which means we'd be making even more of a profit .	costing
-A	359.53	And if we sold a lot of squishy things .	costing
-C	361.59	Mm .	costing
-A	362.56	Boo yeah .	costing
-A	365.5	Okay .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	369.83	S So Mm .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	388.13	Did y what did you work on ?	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	389.73	The Okay .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	389.99	Um evaluation criteria .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	392.96	Do you wanna Okay .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	393.3	I've got a presentation .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	396.61	I think that's Huh , the PowerPoint one ?	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	396.8	So I need where's the cable ?	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	409.28	Right what happens is we have to um decide whether this this whole this whole project we've been working on actually um meets the standards we were set at the start .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	426.91	Um .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	429.65	Right .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	431.09	This doesn't okay .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	433.01	Um the method is we well I've analysed the user requirements and integrated them to the trends found in marketing reports and in our company strategy marketing .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	445.84	And um the findings were that we need it to look in a certain way , feel in a certain way , and this is everything's listed down .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	455.29	Um , look in a certain way , feel in a certain way , it has to be technologically innovative and it has to be easy to use .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	463.3	These are all things we looked at at the start , um and criteria that have to be met .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	468.37	We have to use a table , I'll show you that later , together to decide whether it meets the standards .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	475.46	And we we have therefore in total um We have five we have eleven points according to which this should be evaluated .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	489.79	And um the cri well basically the findings are the same as the evaluation criteria .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	496.14	I would like to show you the table we have to use .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	499.77	Um .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	501.97	No .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	504.29	This is the table .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	505.26	Can you see this here ?	evaluation of prototype(s)
-B	506.65	Mm-hmm .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	507.35	Um so the que the questions I've given you c could you write that down ?	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	512.24	True is one and and false is seven .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	515.19	And we'll just go through each point together , hopefully .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	522.58	Um .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	526.86	I think if each of us gives an opinion then they can be mixed somehow .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	530.6	I dunno how it works exactly , I haven't been told .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	532.21	Yeah .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	533.91	Is it possible that we can bring this up on our own Is it meeting three minutes ?	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	537.22	Yeah it's in the um it's in the project documents .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	543.22	No it's not minutes .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	543.73	It's called evaluation criteria .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	546.32	Okay .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	548.26	And it's under evaluation .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-B	553.72	Hmm ?	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	554.72	Yeah .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	555.04	Okay .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	555.52	Cool .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	556.54	You've found it all ?	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	557.51	Yeah .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	564.27	So it was um Yeah true's one .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	574.19	True's one and false is seven .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	575.64	Do you want us to discuss this together or do you want us to do it singly ?	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	579.39	Um we can do it separately and then discuss it if if that's what people wanna do .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	581.24	Yeah okay .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	590.47	So it's actually a scale .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	592.33	Wait , one is true and so these are the questions we're answering .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	596.34	Um , yes it's if it's fancy you put one , if it's really unfancy it's seven .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	598.8	And one is One , right okay .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	603.99	If it's somewhere in between you put four .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	605.85	Yeah , something .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	606.79	Okay .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	607.25	Okay .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	661.53	Does it feel fancy ?	evaluation of prototype(s)
-B	663.95	Feels like play-dough .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	666.27	No .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	678.6	They shouldn't really be questions .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	680.64	Should be more like Are the batteries easy to insert ?	evaluation of prototype(s)
-B	716.06	I'm gonna say yes .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	717.63	Yes ?	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	718.19	Very very true .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	719.76	Okay .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-B	719.83	I imagine they're somewhere on the front .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-B	721.37	We have a little case that you slip 'em in .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	723.76	Okay .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	785.28	Are we just about ready ?	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	788.28	Apparently I'm supposed to use the whiteboard .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	791.24	Do we um is it necessary ?	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	794.45	I don't think so .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	796.02	It's yeah the the marker thing kinda stopped working last time we Our animals will forever be there .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	796.1	We'll just do um Yeah .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	799.9	Yeah .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	801.22	Okay .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	802.18	Okay .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	805.09	Un unless you feel you need it t to okay okay .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	807.92	I don't feel any right um Right so one point one ?	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	809.71	We'll Five .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	815.65	We'll just go in a circle .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	817.15	One .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-B	817.39	'Kay Five .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	818.71	Right .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	819.31	Ooh I don't know .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	821.22	Right .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	822.4	One ?	evaluation of prototype(s)
-B	823.44	Five .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	825.85	Five .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	827.39	Two .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	828.41	Okay so do we just add it up and divide it by four ?	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	831.31	Is that what the company does ?	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	833.39	I I think we should Yeah .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-B	834.92	It's four if you wanna do that .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	837.06	Yeah ?	evaluation of prototype(s)
-B	837.42	It adds to sixteen , so that's four .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	837.58	Yeah .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	841.0	Oh no .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	841.54	It adds to thirteen .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	843.42	One five five two .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-B	845.04	Oh I thought she said five .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	846.13	Hmm .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	847.37	One five five two is thirteen , over four for now .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	850.52	I think that's um next ?	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	854.29	Um three .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-B	856.91	Six .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	857.54	Six .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	859.29	Really ?	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	859.99	Yeah .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	860.58	Two .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	861.48	I wasn't cheating I swear .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	861.66	Uh-oh .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	863.41	Right .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	863.88	One point three is Yeah .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	868.18	So it's a one was true and seven was false ?	evaluation of prototype(s)
-B	872.26	Huh ?	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	872.39	Uh .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	873.03	Okay , so you guys really didn't like it ?	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	875.58	I really Well uh Yeah yeah .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	875.74	Oh I thought it was the other way round .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-B	875.94	Wait a minute .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-B	876.91	I thought it was the other way round too .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	880.0	So we do have about the same thing , we just have it the other way Oh gosh .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-B	881.11	Sh Yeah I I was thinking one means no points , you know , all the way up to the top .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	883.95	It was one is true and false is seven .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	887.38	I should've kept the table up .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-B	889.13	I'll just I'll just reverse them all .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	890.03	Okay .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	890.53	Well Yeah .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-B	891.46	It's no problem .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	894.17	Right , well I'm glad this came out .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	896.6	I was like , why did you guys design it that way if you hated it ?	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	898.09	Yeah .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-B	898.66	I thought you guys hated it .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	900.23	No .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	900.44	Yeah .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	900.54	Yeah .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	901.13	Oh that's quite funny .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-B	923.7	Okay .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	924.63	Okay .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	925.51	Yeah .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	927.15	Okay .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	928.02	So , starting again , one point one ?	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	931.1	One .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-B	933.15	Say two .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	935.16	Three .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	937.29	Two .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	937.69	Okay , one point two ?	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	941.1	Uh three .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-B	942.31	Two .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	942.86	Two .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	944.66	Two .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	945.29	Okay .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	946.09	Um , one point three ?	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	949.47	One .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	950.64	One .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-B	951.17	One .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	953.17	Ha .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	954.95	Two point one ?	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	956.95	Uh two .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	957.07	Two .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-B	958.92	Uh two .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	961.29	Two point I think I missed two .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	964.58	Wait , is that two point one ?	evaluation of prototype(s)
-B	966.73	Yeah I put it down as one point four for some reason .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	967.18	Yeah .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	968.21	One point four , one point five .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	968.23	Oh dear , okay .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	969.57	Okay right that's I have two of them .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	970.11	Sorry .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-B	971.57	Mine has all kinds of problems .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	972.41	Two and one .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	973.54	Sorry about that .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	974.65	T two point two , which is one point five .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	977.99	One .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-B	979.38	Uh three .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-B	981.58	Wait why did I put three ?	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	982.82	Uh one .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-B	984.62	I meant one on mine too .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	984.8	Okay .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	986.42	Three point one .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	987.44	Is that correct on my slide ?	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	988.53	Yeah .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	988.94	Yeah .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	989.24	Yeah .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	989.45	Yeah ?	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	990.1	Uh one .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-B	992.87	Three point one .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-B	993.84	I have four .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	995.47	Three .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	995.64	One , four , three , three , three point two ?	evaluation of prototype(s)
-B	1001.06	Three .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	1001.72	Three .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1003.45	Uh .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1004.67	One .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	1006.45	Three point three .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1008.31	One .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-B	1008.89	One .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	1010.08	Two .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	1013.4	Four point one ?	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1015.0	One .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-B	1015.63	Two .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	1016.55	Five .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	1019.35	Two .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	1020.23	Four point two .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1022.08	Two .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-B	1023.1	Three .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	1023.81	Four .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	1025.89	Two and four point three .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-B	1029.19	Two .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	1029.51	One , two .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1030.78	One .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	1031.35	Two .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	1033.76	Right so I put one on that .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	1035.3	Okay I'll um I'll just do the calculations now if you want to continue .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	1040.8	Okay .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	1040.94	Or is it tedious ?	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	1041.18	Um No no that's um I think we should look at the ones that like where s where people said four , where um it looks like we might wanna discuss changing an aspect of the remote .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	1042.12	I'm I'm sorry this was so tedious for everyone .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	1045.82	I didn't know how else to do it .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	1058.69	Okay .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	1059.59	Well the worst ones were three point one .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-B	1062.94	Mm-hmm .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	1063.6	Do does every ones have the slide ?	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	1066.55	Three point one .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	1066.84	The that was material .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	1069.96	Slide show .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	1073.52	Material technologically innovative , okay .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	1077.51	Mm .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	1078.08	Um , do you want to change it ?	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	1080.17	What are the suggestions ?	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	1081.54	I don't know , anyone ?	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	1083.28	Um Mm-hmm .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1083.51	Which one is that again sorry ?	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1084.96	Three point one ?	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	1087.01	Yeah that it's three point one was not that good .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	1090.3	Four point one .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	1092.94	Does the shape See I'm having I'm having trouble imagining the is it uh gonna be the size , like the the controller ?	look and usability
-D	1094.29	The shape .	look and usability
-C	1095.2	I think What if we just smash all the vegetables down flat ?	look and usability
-D	1095.68	Four point two ?	look and usability
-A	1105.25	It or bigger ?	look and usability
-B	1105.35	I think the wheel would probably be mm .	look and usability
-A	1107.22	Because Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1110.72	And like then it you could hold it in your hand better .	look and usability
-B	1114.09	I think the base would definitely be larger , 'cause some of these are not as easy to hold .	look and usability
-B	1117.33	They're kinda smallish .	look and usability
-A	1119.95	No but I imagine even if it was bigger , like if it's round and it's big then you you can't get that's why remote controls are long because you have that thumb kind of so c they could all be bananas and cucumbers .	look and usability
-C	1124.58	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1125.54	The flat one .	look and usability
-B	1125.64	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1126.58	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1132.2	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1133.65	Um but I don't s I I personally don't think this is comfortable to to sit there , like it's an awkward position .	look and usability
-C	1138.61	I didn't yeah .	look and usability
-C	1140.35	But like if if you just squash them flat like and you made it flat But it's still too big I think , in your hand .	look and usability
-B	1144.04	Well if they're that s uh stress ball stuff they would be pretty squishable .	look and usability
-B	1150.74	Mm .	look and usability
-A	1152.24	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1153.2	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1155.82	And would it even resemble fruit that way ?	look and usability
-A	1158.38	I mean Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1159.02	Yeah like certain ones you'd have to limit the fruit selection , like you could probably do a strawberry still .	look and usability
-A	1164.78	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1164.98	I think the broccoli would be out .	look and usability
-C	1167.51	You could do , although the broccoli is quite comfortable , I have to say , like sorta like a joystick .	look and usability
-A	1171.73	Yeah that I I when you were holding that before , it actually looked yeah .	look and usability
-D	1173.34	Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1173.99	That looked really good .	look and usability
-C	1175.45	I don't know .	look and usability
-C	1175.88	So Uh .	look and usability
-D	1178.01	Are there any fruits that look like broccoli , no ?	look and usability
-B	1182.85	Not that I can think of .	look and usability
-B	1183.88	Rhubarb .	look and usability
-C	1185.87	Rhubarb .	look and usability
-C	1188.17	These obscure fruits .	look and usability
-D	1188.65	I think that broccoli is my favourite actually .	look and usability
-A	1191.3	Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1191.85	Uh despite the Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1193.13	I think we needn't Huh ?	look and usability
-A	1193.45	What if um the it was just patterns on like we we chose the shape or the sh shape could be whatever we wanted and then it would just be like a design on the rubber .	look and usability
-A	1209.33	You know like like just a printed yeah or coloured yeah .	look and usability
-C	1209.39	Oh okay .	look and usability
-B	1210.26	So it's just colour , and not necessarily the shape of a strawberry .	look and usability
-C	1212.92	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1213.39	That could work .	look and usability
-A	1215.94	Or I mean we could even have fruit like around I mean But if we if we need yeah .	look and usability
-C	1220.26	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1222.32	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1222.97	I dunno .	look and usability
-D	1223.5	Yeah and just have the colour match or something .	look and usability
-A	1226.41	And if we wanna incorporate the fruit thing somehow , there might be I mean if it if it in if it uh conflicts with the comfort of actually holdi holding the Mm .	look and usability
-C	1235.88	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1236.68	'Cause yeah no-one wants to hold a remote that's uncomfortable obviously .	look and usability
-D	1240.33	Mm .	look and usability
-C	1241.32	Or like I dunno , some of 'em you can kind of think see as like like you could if it was only this you know , if it was shaped like that , and it just had that .	look and usability
-C	1251.55	But you see the problem is you have to attach that , and this has to be detachable .	look and usability
-A	1252.1	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1255.01	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1256.35	So like maybe that's just too big because Yeah it's sorta like a joystick .	look and usability
-A	1257.58	Well see th the reason the broccoli works is you can kinda hold it like that , which is a nice kind of yeah .	look and usability
-D	1261.89	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1266.13	But I mean is there some way we could make it this kind of shape ?	look and usability
-C	1267.62	I dunno .	look and usability
-C	1268.56	I guess Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1271.95	'Cause like kind of Yeah , yeah .	look and usability
-B	1273.24	We could make it that shape but just have different colours , and call 'em the different fruits .	look and usability
-D	1276.01	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1277.24	Or like even Or even like Yeah like you said , like a joystick like that .	look and usability
-C	1277.25	Dif Yeah .	look and usability
-B	1277.78	We went with shape because we were having fun with the play-dough .	look and usability
-A	1284.07	You know ?	look and usability
-C	1284.6	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1285.89	Like uh we could do I'm trying to think of other sha like fruits that are oddly shaped .	look and usability
-A	1290.43	'Cause that , I think I mean that fits the whole round iPod idea .	look and usability
-C	1296.77	Yeah .	look and usability
-B	1297.59	Mm-hmm .	look and usability
-A	1297.67	And you still have the comfort of holding it like that .	look and usability
-D	1297.73	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1302.17	Mm .	look and usability
-A	1303.99	And you could like if it's like this , you could put fruit designs and stuff on that part .	look and usability
-C	1308.88	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1309.96	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1311.34	Alright .	look and usability
-A	1312.36	But I mean it do we have any other ideas about that ?	look and usability
-D	1317.53	Um Think the critical ones came out to be yeah that one .	look and usability
-C	1322.2	We could tr I don't know .	look and usability
-D	1336.81	Batteries easy to insert for some reason , which can be easily I think that's not a problem any more .	look and usability
-A	1343.39	The batteries are going in the back ?	look and usability
-B	1344.06	That everyone gave that a one or a two .	look and usability
-B	1346.95	Yeah they'd probably be either on the front or the side of the remote .	look and usability
-D	1346.99	No .	look and usability
-A	1349.18	The reason I I ga I didn't give it a one I think I gave it a three because I thought you'd have to like unc clip no you could Just like any other one .	look and usability
-B	1354.71	No I imagine there'd be sort of a hatch door , yeah um like on a normal remote .	look and usability
-A	1358.85	Okay .	look and usability
-A	1359.67	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1361.06	Right .	look and usability
-B	1361.59	So it would probably either in the f no it can't be in the front 'cause the I_R_'s right there , but it'd be on one of the sides probably .	look and usability
-A	1366.64	Okay .	look and usability
-D	1367.01	I think everyone's under three anyway .	look and usability
-A	1371.03	Mm .	look and usability
-D	1371.36	So I think it's yeah those are the only two points .	look and usability
-C	1377.03	Cool .	look and usability
-C	1377.81	Well Yeah the broccoli I guess wins .	look and usability
-D	1383.76	Yeah .	look and usability
-B	1383.96	Yeah I'd agree with changing the shape .	look and usability
-B	1386.01	Um , I was just having fun making strawberries and stuff .	look and usability
-A	1386.21	Okay .	look and usability
-C	1389.66	We were a bit off task .	look and usability
-C	1391.64	Um so uh I can't think of any So we'll have to like Mm .	look and usability
-C	1405.47	Yeah I dunno .	look and usability
-C	1407.81	You could make the touch pad in th in different shapes , but then that kind of re-designs the whole project like , but you could do like Yeah that's true .	look and usability
-B	1414.66	It might also sort of annoy people if we get used to having the buttons in one shape .	look and usability
-A	1418.84	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1420.22	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1420.71	And it would probably cost more to produce , 'cause they're irregular .	look and usability
-C	1422.47	Yeah that's true .	look and usability
-C	1425.27	Mm .	look and usability
-B	1426.41	I bet having different colours is a lot cheaper than having different shapes too .	look and usability
-A	1429.62	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1431.57	Which is why printing might be like just printing the fruit on fruit .	look and usability
-C	1438.24	Hmm .	look and usability
-A	1440.53	Mm .	evaluation of project process
-A	1448.48	Not really Well we've done finance evaluation criteria , production evaluation .	evaluation of project process
-A	1465.36	Um so project evaluation .	evaluation of project process
-D	1467.83	Do you want this and we can all No .	evaluation of project process
-A	1473.25	I guess we're supposed to discuss um the prod the process of the project and how satisfied oh , oh it's alright .	evaluation of project process
-A	1484.08	Uh .	evaluation of project process
-D	1484.5	It's alright yeah ?	evaluation of project process
-A	1485.15	Yeah .	evaluation of project process
-A	1485.98	Um Did you feel there was a lot of room for creativity in the sort of Yeah .	evaluation of project process
-B	1492.5	Sure .	evaluation of project process
-C	1495.64	I did .	evaluation of project process
-D	1497.18	Yeah .	evaluation of project process
-A	1497.38	I mean fruit and squishiness .	evaluation of project process
-A	1498.92	How c more creative can you get ?	evaluation of project process
-B	1500.17	Sponginess .	evaluation of project process
-C	1501.58	The prototype making was very creatively stimulating and I think we've come up with a product that's fun and meets all the criteria .	evaluation of project process
-A	1515.2	And how was our leadership and teamwork ?	evaluation of project process
-B	1518.72	I think it was good .	evaluation of project process
-B	1519.64	We knew what we were doing .	evaluation of project process
-B	1520.9	It was a very democratic process and everyone got to contribute .	evaluation of project process
-A	1525.87	Well I thought my leadership was crap personally .	evaluation of project process
-A	1529.28	Excuse me , am I allowed to say that ?	evaluation of project process
-B	1529.66	Well you told us when to start and when to end , and that's all that matters .	evaluation of project process
-A	1531.57	Yeah .	evaluation of project process
-A	1533.82	Um .	evaluation of project process
-C	1534.49	I think you were fine .	evaluation of project process
-C	1535.34	You did a good job leading .	evaluation of project process
-A	1535.61	Yeah , well I'm never gonna do a management position , I know that now .	evaluation of project process
-A	1540.1	Um yeah , I thought we all worked very well together .	evaluation of project process
-D	1541.47	Yeah we didn't we uh it all c sort of blended quite well .	evaluation of project process
-A	1544.24	Yeah .	evaluation of project process
-C	1544.53	Yeah I think it more than anything we didn't really have our set roles so much , as we just would be like I don't know , all had ideas about it but yeah .	evaluation of project process
-A	1548.68	Yeah .	evaluation of project process
-A	1550.24	Very democratic .	evaluation of project process
-A	1552.54	No spats , that was good .	evaluation of project process
-C	1554.22	No .	evaluation of project process
-A	1557.24	Um and the means for like the materials we used , how convenient were they ?	evaluation of project process
-A	1564.59	Like the the pens , the whiteboard , I mean we used Are you a Mac person ?	evaluation of project process
-B	1567.3	Well I'm not a big fan of any Microsoft , PowerPoint or any of this stuff .	evaluation of project process
-B	1572.63	No no I never touch Macs either .	evaluation of project process
-B	1574.92	I just use the Unix or the off market , sort of WordPerfect and all these other things .	evaluation of project process
-A	1580.39	Huh .	evaluation of project process
-C	1581.09	Hmm .	evaluation of project process
-D	1581.68	Which isn't very user-friendly though .	evaluation of project process
-B	1583.38	Yeah .	evaluation of project process
-B	1584.34	Well the problem is if you don't like my new computer never has WordPerfect so I have to go track someone down who has an old disk and then I have to reinstall it .	evaluation of project process
-B	1591.42	So I have all these documents I can't use now .	evaluation of project process
-B	1595.32	But yeah I mean I guess it's okay .	evaluation of project process
-C	1597.62	I felt like my I dunno if it was just my role , but l but uh I di I thought that my the information that was available to me was kind of just like or maybe it was just the idea that we had .	evaluation of project process
-C	1606.37	But there's kinda it was kinda like okay , I don't really think I dunno what I'm doing here .	evaluation of project process
-A	1611.67	Mm .	evaluation of project process
-C	1611.81	So I didn't really think it was helpful .	evaluation of project process
-C	1614.49	So I kind of just made up my own stuff and I didn't really like the PowerPoint presentations , so I kind of wrote a lot of notes instead .	evaluation of project process
-A	1619.89	Yeah .	evaluation of project process
-C	1624.36	But yeah I d I don't really like PowerPoint personally , think it's kinda stupid .	evaluation of project process
-A	1624.55	Yeah .	evaluation of project process
-B	1628.38	Yeah .	evaluation of project process
-B	1629.34	I never use it .	evaluation of project process
-C	1630.29	Yeah but uh Yeah .	evaluation of project process
-A	1631.94	I can't say I found everything particularly helpful .	evaluation of project process
-A	1636.7	Like I It Really ?	evaluation of project process
-C	1636.9	It didn't really yeah .	evaluation of project process
-B	1637.26	Yeah .	evaluation of project process
-D	1638.55	I though it was brilliant no ?	evaluation of project process
-B	1638.61	My first bit of information was like this child's drawn picture of how a remote works .	evaluation of project process
-D	1642.91	No mine was really helpful as in my stuff was quite helpful I think .	evaluation of project process
-C	1647.64	So like a f Yeah I think so .	evaluation of project process
-A	1647.75	I mean m my problem yeah , yeah .	evaluation of project process
-D	1647.82	I think it depends on the role no ?	evaluation of project process
-B	1649.85	Yeah it probably does .	evaluation of project process
-A	1650.88	'Cause my problem was , you guys had access to like they'd put send you to sites and stuff right ?	evaluation of project process
-B	1655.62	Yeah .	evaluation of project process
-A	1656.17	See I couldn't do that , so I didn't really know what you guys were doing .	evaluation of project process
-A	1658.86	And when you were talking about it I was just like you know that's wh that's why I seemed so ignorant when when you were j explaining things , 'cause I Yeah .	evaluation of project process
-B	1665.93	Yeah well mine was mostly made up except when they told me like you know titanium costs more than wood to make a remote control .	evaluation of project process
-B	1672.6	As if you'd wanted to .	evaluation of project process
-D	1672.7	Yeah .	evaluation of project process
-A	1672.86	Yeah .	evaluation of project process
-D	1673.86	But it must have been quite difficult for them to build a whole um a whole system , 'cause of course they can't give you uh uh anything comparable to the internet for the Yeah , yeah .	evaluation of project process
-A	1677.98	System .	evaluation of project process
-A	1678.99	Yeah .	evaluation of project process
-C	1683.97	Yeah I mean , it Yeah I kinda thought that um I felt like I would go and like try to use my information , or like I'd make this stupid little presentation and then like I just would end up talking about something completely unrelated because I dunno I felt like I was off-task all the time .	evaluation of project process
-A	1684.4	Yeah .	evaluation of project process
-B	1684.81	Well I think it's interesting how it all went together , like I had the stuff about how me how rubber's cheap , and you have how people want it to be spongy , and It seems planned you know .	evaluation of project process
-A	1692.27	Yeah , huh .	evaluation of project process
-A	1694.52	Yeah .	evaluation of project process
-A	1706.39	Yeah .	evaluation of project process
-C	1708.64	But um Yeah .	evaluation of project process
-A	1710.29	Well I mean we really got into talking about like personal practicalit like it wasn't necessarily what was like we would never have thought of fruit or sponginess you know ?	evaluation of project process
-D	1720.13	No .	evaluation of project process
-B	1721.5	Yeah .	evaluation of project process
-A	1721.79	So it's Oh right .	evaluation of project process
-B	1721.95	If I hadn't been told that fruit was They're pretty cool .	evaluation of project process
-D	1723.73	But I think that it it might be to see whether people actually all come up with the same thing .	evaluation of project process
-A	1731.43	given certain information or Just yeah .	evaluation of project process
-D	1734.32	Yeah , like if everyone's given the same input I don't have a clue , anyway .	evaluation of project process
-A	1737.51	Mm , mm .	evaluation of project process
-D	1738.34	Um what's next ?	evaluation of project process
-D	1740.4	Looks like oh no that's not um It's quite Yeah .	evaluation of project process
-A	1744.52	What do you guys think of the pens ?	evaluation of project process
-A	1746.07	It asks about that .	evaluation of project process
-A	1748.3	Mm .	evaluation of project process
-B	1748.42	They're kinda hard to write with though .	evaluation of project process
-C	1748.42	I wanna s I I'd like to see what what it looks like on the Yeah I think I'd like to um I dunno .	evaluation of project process
-A	1750.05	Yeah and I I've f forgotten once or twice to check the box .	evaluation of project process
-B	1760.06	They're nicer than the pen that I'm using , because like your stuff actually shows up here , rather than having to look at the screen and write .	evaluation of project process
-A	1766.66	Mm .	evaluation of project process
-B	1768.91	But even so , I dunno .	evaluation of project process
-A	1773.43	And new ideas found ?	evaluation of project process
-D	1778.19	Yeah it's all very new , no ?	evaluation of project process
-A	1779.54	Yeah .	evaluation of project process
-D	1781.52	It's all very new .	evaluation of project process
-C	1791.2	Like it was the I think the microphones are okay when you're sitting down , but like they're kinda clumsy I guess when you're like when you're s going up to the whiteboard like .	evaluation of project process
-D	1791.35	Sorry .	evaluation of project process
-B	1796.81	Oh yeah .	evaluation of project process
-B	1799.81	Well they drop off if you like move too much .	evaluation of project process
-C	1801.7	Yeah I dunno .	evaluation of project process
-C	1802.51	But they're they're okay .	evaluation of project process
-B	1802.84	But I don't think we're supposed to be testing these microphones .	evaluation of project process
-B	1806.06	Maybe we are .	evaluation of project process
-B	1806.64	I don't know .	evaluation of project process
-A	1806.82	Mm .	evaluation of project process
-C	1807.18	Uh I think , and I think that uh all this technology like I guess some people must be interested in using it but I can't imagine finding it any more useful than like looking at someone's notes , or like I dunno .	evaluation of project process
-A	1819.4	Yeah .	evaluation of project process
-B	1819.88	Well the thing is , like I actually worked in a company , and I had a role and I had to go to meetings .	evaluation of project process
-B	1825.42	And like the last thing I would have wanted would be to have to watch a video 'cause I missed a meeting .	evaluation of project process
-B	1830.12	Like usually I missed meetings deliberately .	evaluation of project process
-B	1832.25	There's just there's really not that much information that actually goes through a real meeting , like when you're actually at a real meeting in a real company .	evaluation of project process
-A	1836.07	Yeah .	evaluation of project process
-C	1838.42	Hm .	evaluation of project process
-B	1838.71	It's mostly like rehashing old stuff .	evaluation of project process
-B	1841.23	And you're sort of going over general stuff that anybody who's sort of on task should already know .	evaluation of project process
-A	1842.85	Yeah .	evaluation of project process
-B	1846.09	It's like the there's just really not a lot of information that goes through .	evaluation of project process
-A	1847.99	Seems kind of like an excessive reiteration .	evaluation of project process
-B	1849.51	It seems like way overkill .	evaluation of project process
-A	1850.86	Yeah .	evaluation of project process
-B	1851.1	Like if I missed a meeting I could probably get it summed up in like one sentence .	evaluation of project process
-A	1854.36	Yeah .	evaluation of project process
-B	1855.03	I wouldn't need to have to watch like a t two hour video with the sound and the transcript and I think I've learned not to bring play-dough to meetings .	evaluation of project process closing
-A	1859.64	Yeah .	evaluation of project process
-C	1860.94	I guess it would be it's gotta be worth it to I 'cause I'm just mostly curious about like what kind of person or like company would would really find it useful , 'cause can't really imagine , dunno .	evaluation of project process
-C	1877.39	How about a p a ?	evaluation of project process
-C	1882.35	Um I dunno .	evaluation of project process
-A	1888.68	Well does anyone wanna talk about fruit more while we still have time ?	evaluation of project process
-A	1893.74	Any other ideas for Um we still have time if there's any other input .	evaluation of project process
-D	1895.04	What what's the end ?	evaluation of project process
-D	1896.45	Are we are we supposed to um you supposed to write a report ?	evaluation of project process
-D	1900.79	Or we ending ?	evaluation of project process
-D	1902.25	Is that the end ?	evaluation of project process
-A	1909.27	I mean the I think we did really well personally , which is why we've you know , gone through this so quickly .	evaluation of project process
-A	1917.55	'Cause I mean we've all we all kind of agreed our product is satisfactory , it fits the budget , and it's trendy .	evaluation of project process
-C	1927.1	Yeah .	evaluation of project process
-A	1929.17	So .	evaluation of project process
-A	1932.02	Um .	evaluation of project process
-D	1933.13	End of meeting .	closing
-D	1933.93	You have to tell her , she Okay we have to fill in all this stuff .	closing
-A	1936.22	So I think that's all for today .	closing
-D	1942.77	Stuff stuff stuff .	closing
-C	1943.25	M meeting adjourned .	closing
-A	1944.42	Meeting adjourned .	closing
-D	1944.9	Yeah .	closing
-A	1949.38	Yeah .	closing
-C	1952.42	I think it would be a good idea , I like it .	closing
-B	1955.87	It's hard enough to get people actually paying attention .	closing
-B	1958.98	Especially if you have food .	closing
-A	1964.19	So I guess we're supposed to write final reports .	closing
-A	1968.22	'Cause I don't know .	closing
-B	1968.39	All of us ?	closing
-D	1970.52	Well there's al eight , nine .	closing
-A	1971.31	Hmm .	closing
-D	1972.33	Ooh .	closing
-D	1973.92	Oh ooh .	closing
-A	1974.66	Hmm .	closing
-A	1975.32	Or is that just me ?	closing

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-C	34.29	Oops .	opening
-C	38.76	That's as far as it goes .	opening
-A	49.14	Hi guys uh good morning everybody here .	opening
-A	53.08	And uh I want to introduce myself , uh my name is uh Shrida Daseri and uh I'm a project manager for this new project which we are going to discuss now .	opening
-A	63.74	So I want to introduce first of all uh the names and the colleagues here .	opening
-A	71.67	And what you're uh drawing ?	opening
-B	73.92	Uh sure my name is Agnes and I'm an user usability user interface designer .	opening
-D	85.82	My name is Ed and I do accounting .	opening
-A	88.44	Uh how you spell your name uh ?	opening
-D	89.97	E_D_ .	opening
-A	90.63	E_D_ okay .	opening
-D	91.63	Mm .	opening
-A	93.27	And ?	opening
-C	95.46	Do you also do marketing ?	opening
-D	97.12	No .	opening
-A	99.28	So only accounting ?	opening
-D	100.86	Accounting , yes .	opening
-A	101.31	Okay .	opening
-A	102.84	And ?	opening
-C	103.41	And I'm Christine , and my role in this uh scenario is to be the industrial designer .	opening
-A	104.64	Mm-hmm .	opening
-A	109.84	Industrial designer .	opening
-C	111.59	But I'm not really one .	opening
-A	115.67	So who is uh marketing , nobody in the market It's you , okay .	opening
-D	117.24	Marketing is uh , is me .	opening
-A	121.56	So thanks for coming for the meeting first of all , and uh we have a long time , just twenty-five minutes to discuss about uh this project and the the project initiation .	opening
-A	135.12	First of all I want to ask uh Mister Ed about your uh marketing plan and your product plan and uh Mm-hmm but uh do you already have like a functional design or a technical design or Oh for the moment not yet , okay , but uh what's what's your uh do you have some project plan , something with you or Mm-hmm .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	144.8	Well I think that we'll see that throughout the day in how we're going to put this together as a marketing to to market the product .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	151.98	We'll have to see on a through discussion on where we're gonna go from here and from with this .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	161.25	Uh for the moment not yet .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	172.15	Good question .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	173.93	No , this is like I said that we have to be discussed between all of us and we'll go from there .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	177.47	We'll have to simply we'll have to work on it together .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	180.11	Okay , so uh by when you think you can uh give me some kind of uh project plan , okay , a discussion with uh By next meeting , okay that will be great .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	188.42	Certainly by the next meeting .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	197.58	Uh Okay , so there's any questions or uh first of all about uh this project ?	project specs and roles of participants
-C	206.96	What is the goal of the project ?	project specs and roles of participants
-A	209.54	Uh the goal of the project I think maybe I'll uh hand out to the Ed , okay , so to explain uh what is the project because he's in the sales and the accounting .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	218.24	I'm in the sales I'm supposed to explain them what to do .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	221.7	We have to define exactly what our product is , from uh From what I had in mind we're supposed to be marketing coffee , is that right ?	project specs and roles of participants
-A	227.65	Yes , so can you explain uh what exactly the product is ?	project specs and roles of participants
-A	238.27	Oh I think uh , if I'm not wrong , we're making the remote control .	project specs and roles of participants
-B	238.65	Um I was wondering Mm-hmm .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	241.99	Remote controls , 'cause I had two different things .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	244.26	I had a first part of mine was to make a remote control for a new f remote control for television , and afterward I had a discussion about coffee so we'll start with the remote control for television then .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	253.76	Yes .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	258.07	So we're have to design something that is very user friendly .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	261.19	Mm-hmm .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	261.5	Something uh visual that has something that will will draw people to buy the product , because I think everybody's experienced with uh remote controls , and some remote controls are are worth uh throwing out the window .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	268.76	Mm-hmm .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	278.14	Uh th most of them ar I don't know we're have to come up with a new idea on how to make it a lot easier to use , 'cause a lot of times uh spend uh half a day through the instruction book trying to figure out how to use it .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	286.53	Mm-hmm .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	292.76	Mm-hmm .	project specs and roles of participants
-B	293.3	Mm .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	294.28	And uh what abo uh Christine , what about your uh the industrial design plan ?	project specs and roles of participants
-A	300.58	Are you have a design already on this product or uh you're still working on the design ?	project specs and roles of participants
-C	307.5	Um no , I I have not begun working on the design , and um I uh I actually didn't know we were designing a remote control , I thought we were designing a new monitor .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	311.44	Mm-hmm .	project specs and roles of participants
-C	321.19	Um the website I went to look at had some announcements about an introduction of a um uh some sort of a seven inch um monitor , and um I understood that that was the project goal .	project specs and roles of participants
-C	338.39	So um I'm glad I didn't d do any work um ahead of time because uh I clearly didn't understand the project goal .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	345.98	Okay .	project specs and roles of participants
-C	346.55	Um I just did s see that we were starting a new project together and there was going to be a four member team composed of these people , and um that's about uh that's and I I read through the different steps , and what my responsibilities were relative to the steps .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	358.4	Mm-hmm .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	363.76	So uh you'll be leading the team for your design team or how many members is working in the team , for the design ?	project specs and roles of participants
-C	369.71	Uh for the industrial design ?	project specs and roles of participants
-A	371.2	Yes .	project specs and roles of participants
-C	372.18	Um well , I would th think that depends on how much money you give us .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	376.23	Okay .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	377.53	That's Yeah , but uh before we talk about uh the finance , okay , uh do you have some idea how we can uh sell this product or project in the market and how much is going to benefit to the company and uh of course it's to the individual also .	project specs and roles of participants
-C	377.74	Um because uh , you know , you can uh you can make it uh you have different choices with different financial models .	project specs and roles of participants
-C	402.66	Well , you know um , I kind of think that in general you have to do uh um y you have to have something that's very fashionable , that's uh very attractive that um people see and recognize uh its goal , and uh they immediately wanna have it uh have one of their own .	project specs and roles of participants
-C	423.78	So it would really would need to um something like the iPod would be good , seems to have caught on fairly well , so um d uh you know , I don't care what it does , just so it looks cool .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	431.87	Mm-hmm .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	436.88	Okay , but uh uh when you think you can give me like a kind of design on the functional design or the technical design ?	project specs and roles of participants
-C	447.86	Well , uh I've got a lot of other projects I'm doing right now um and so I'll have to wait and see how those uh how those go .	project specs and roles of participants
-C	455.39	If they uh go quickly then uh it could be a month .	project specs and roles of participants
-C	458.77	If um if I run into any problems in my other projects it might be six months .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	464.32	Yeah , but uh I need something in the writing , so like uh what's your functional design , what's your technical design , and uh how many people you need for this project , and what's the time frame you're looking , okay , and what is the budget , maybe uh initial budget you're looking , okay , and uh how is going to the market , okay , so you've you've had to meet with the marketing team and how they're going to market and what are the marketing strategic plan , okay , when are you going to introduce , okay , and by the time you introduce the product and uh you know there there would be a competition , okay , so I need some kind of uh uh the plan in the writing from you .	project specs and roles of participants
-C	473.23	Mm-hmm .	project specs and roles of participants
-C	475.31	Mm-hmm .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	501.29	Okay , and it's po B as soon as possible .	project specs and roles of participants
-C	502.02	And when would you like that ?	project specs and roles of participants
-C	507.57	Uh well if uh if we have enough time uh then d do you think um two weeks is a is close enough ?	project specs and roles of participants
-A	517.22	Yes I think uh that would be good , because I need to go to the management and uh tell them what we are going to do , and uh what cost is , okay , and what's the time frame and what's the project plan , because uh without any uh documentations , I cannot go to the management and say , so we are going to do this and we need this much money , okay , so then it's it's difficult for me to say , okay , that's the reason I need uh some kind of plan from you , initially , okay , then we can have the further discussion again .	project specs and roles of participants
-C	545.16	Uh are there other people who will be contributing to the plan ?	project specs and roles of participants
-A	549.32	Yes , of course , if you need some help , uh so let me know .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	552.14	So , who are the people you need uh from the marketing or uh the technical side or uh the administration point of view , okay , to add in any documentation , or some technical point of view , so just let me know so I can uh coordinate all the teams .	project specs and roles of participants
-C	565.62	Okay , I'll get back to you on that .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	567.03	Yes .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	567.35	Thank you .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	568.12	Okay .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	568.94	And uh Ed uh so what's what do you think about uh this uh project for the remote control and d do you have some already planned something for your marketing strategy or uh the sales strategy ?	project specs and roles of participants
-D	581.18	Well not yet other than uh doing research and taking remote controls and looking what other companies have to do uh , what they're building , their designs , their ideas , uh also have to pinpoint which market we're gonna go into .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	587.55	Hmm .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	594.68	Mm-hmm .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	595.4	It should be a fairly large market because uh the number of people that uh the competition , uh th I agree it has to be something it has to be something new , it has to be something that that draws people saying eh , I like this .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	600.19	Mm-hmm .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	609.67	Whether it works or not , they have to first say I like this , I like the design , and then it's gotta be simple to use .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	615.16	Yes , so what I uh prefer maybe uh you need to interact uh more with the Christine , okay , because you know what she is going to do it , okay , and you know how to sell it .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	627.53	Okay , because uh she is doing the design , but you are the core because you are in the marketing , okay , so because you need to sell and you're the responsible for the all the money , the finance , okay , tomorrow .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	630.68	Yeah .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	637.86	Mm-hmm .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	639.16	So , what I prefer , okay , so you need to interact with the Christine more and uh within her team , okay , who is using the functional design or technical design , okay , and uh you need to come up with some kind of plan , okay , how we are going to do the your sales plan , okay , th Th That that's Yes , that's you have to decide , okay , so the best thing is you uh both of uh the Christine and you discuss with yourself , okay , and come up with the cost , and how we are going to compete in the market , okay , in the the technically , or in the sales wise , okay , the commercial wise , okay .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	647.52	Mm-hmm .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	654.66	Do we already have a cost limit on this , th an idea of how much uh we want to market this for , how much it's gonna sell for , that's up that's up to us to decide , eh ?	project specs and roles of participants
-A	682.18	Then uh we have to design , okay , how long it will take the whole project , okay , how much is going to cost us , and how much we are going to benefit for the company .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	691.08	Okay , of course it's it's uh of benefit for everybody individually .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	696.53	Okay , so I think it's uh maybe if we can uh give me some kind of your uh the sales plan , okay , including the technical what uh she's going to talk to you within the team , okay , then it will help me to discuss with the management for further , okay , and put it in the the proper project plan .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	715.1	Okay , and if you need uh any coordination in between uh compared to the maybe the some technical vendors or commercial vendors , okay , depends if you want to have some uh uh marketing plan or technical plan , okay , so you let me know .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	715.44	Very good .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	728.85	Okay , I can coordinate , or maybe uh , you are my coordinator , am I right ?	project specs and roles of participants
-D	729.44	Very good .	project specs and roles of participants
-B	735.27	Mm .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	735.92	Between uh all the coor Yeah .	project specs and roles of participants
-B	737.41	Well , no , not exactly .	project specs and roles of participants
-B	739.14	I mean my job from what I understood was to look at the usability requirements and make sure that the product is usable , it's acceptable to the people who are gonna use it and look at the best ways to do that .	project specs and roles of participants
-B	751.47	So I think I'll have to interact with Christine and discuss with her , so that she's not designing something that my studies will show right off the bat that it's not going to work , and so it's sort of it's a loop that feeds in , but I don't think necessarily that I'm in a coordinating position for it .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	753.58	Th Christine , yeah .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	757.93	Which is Yes .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	771.51	Yeah , so basically you need to interact with Christine more , okay , for the user acceptability , okay , and the testing , okay , then you will Yes .	project specs and roles of participants
-B	777.88	Yeah .	project specs and roles of participants
-B	779.7	Mm-hmm .	project specs and roles of participants
-B	780.68	Which will also feed into the marketing , because depending on what users want , depends on how you sell it , what tag lines you attach to it , how you try to make it more attractive to users .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	785.9	Yes .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	787.09	Yeah .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	788.97	Yeah .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	791.03	Yeah .	project specs and roles of participants
-B	791.63	So I think all three groups will need to interact quite a bit .	project specs and roles of participants
-B	797.2	Um , and then I guess build the plan based on all of that , because I think you need to take all the factors into account .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	805.18	Yep .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	805.79	But what I request , okay , keep Ed in the loop , okay , in between your uh meeting and Christine meeting , because uh he should know what's happening .	project specs and roles of participants
-B	808.72	Yeah , of course .	project specs and roles of participants
-B	814.28	Yeah , we can C_C_ him on any discussions or documents that are passed around .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	815.11	Yes .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	815.83	Okay and please please copy all the mails , okay , all the discussions to me , okay , so I need to submit to the management .	project specs and roles of participants
-B	820.23	Sure .	project specs and roles of participants
-B	822.24	No problem .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	825.75	So any questions for uh time being ?	project specs and roles of participants
-D	833.49	No .	project specs and roles of participants
-B	834.51	So , the immediate next step is to start determining the functional design , or okay .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	839.54	Yes .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	841.59	Okay .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	843.81	To come up with the functional design and uh to discuss with Ed , okay , and how it's going to be work , and uh first of all with your user acceptance , okay , how it looks like and how it's going to be work in the market , okay , so then we can discuss about uh further things .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	852.26	Mm-hmm .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	859.6	Okay .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	859.83	So , we'll meet when the we'll discuss on the further meeting .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	864.74	It's okay ?	closing
-B	865.66	Mm-hmm .	closing
-A	866.15	Thanks for coming .	closing
-C	866.98	Would you mind um at the conclusion of our meeting could could you send us a copy of your slides ?	closing
-A	872.71	Yes , I will .	closing
-B	873.27	Mm-hmm , yeah , that would be useful .	closing
-A	874.47	Yes .	closing
-A	875.56	I'll copy , uh le let us keep all the emails and all the copies , okay , share each other , okay , so you know everybody what's happening , okay ?	closing
-B	884.07	Sure .	closing
-A	886.8	And if anything you need anytime so please either you can call me , or just send me email , or uh just come and uh knock my door , okay , so I'm available here .	closing
-A	896.61	It's good ?	closing
-B	897.3	Okay .	closing
-A	897.73	Okay , thanks for coming and uh I wish you a nice time then .	closing
-C	898.15	Thank you .	closing
-B	898.72	Thanks .	closing
-B	901.54	Thank you .	closing
-A	901.89	Okay , see you later .	closing
-A	903.0	Bye .	closing

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-A	34.48	Okay uh Agnes , you can help me for the slide when okay .	opening
-C	36.75	Yep .	opening
-C	37.5	Sure .	opening
-A	40.93	Okay , welcome back .	opening
-A	43.31	I hope uh you have a fresh head and a fresh time .	opening
-A	48.87	How t now the meeting actually we gathering here to discuss about the functional design meeting .	opening
-A	59.56	Okay , and uh we'll issue some information from uh all of you .	opening
-A	64.18	And it's in the , I think uh , in the sharing folder .	opening
-A	68.56	And uh I will invite uh the Christine and the Ed and uh Agnes to discuss about on the various subjects .	opening
-A	77.29	So can you go to the next slide ?	opening
-A	80.53	Yeah uh the agenda of the meeting is opening .	opening
-A	83.88	Then uh I'm going to talk about uh the project management , what I'm going to do , and uh , of course , I'm doing the project management and secretary both , okay , to take the minutes of the meeting .	opening
-A	95.71	And there are three presentations .	opening
-A	97.56	One is uh new project requirements .	opening
-A	100.34	And the second one about uh decision on remote control functions .	opening
-A	104.01	And uh finally we are closing .	opening
-A	106.04	Uh and the meeting time will be uh forty minutes , so you have to be very quick .	opening
-A	112.88	And I have come up with the management come with the new proposal , okay , and I have to discuss a few points on this .	new requirements
-A	119.56	Uh both says new insights in the aim of your project .	new requirements
-A	126.36	Uh the one is uh the teletext becomes uh outmoded , okay because if uh because of the computer systems and the new technology .	new requirements
-A	135.64	So we don't need to consider really about the teletext all in our new project design .	new requirements
-A	141.35	And the second one is about uh the remote control .	new requirements
-A	146.37	Should be used only for the T_V_ .	new requirements
-A	149.95	That's what our uh management says .	new requirements
-A	153.78	And the third point , it's very very important to establish our uh marketing or uh corporate image , okay , with this new project or new product .	new requirements
-A	166.28	Okay .	new requirements
-A	168.89	So I will invite uh Agnes , can you go to the third slide ?	industrial designer presentation
-C	174.77	No , this is the third slide .	industrial designer presentation
-A	176.12	Okay , .	industrial designer presentation
-A	177.19	So , I'll invite uh Christine to discuss about uh the functional design .	industrial designer presentation
-B	185.28	'Kay , do you wanna open the I'm number two .	industrial designer presentation
-C	186.46	Sure .	industrial designer presentation
-C	189.01	Um .	industrial designer presentation
-C	194.37	You're participant s Two ?	industrial designer presentation
-B	200.4	That's it .	industrial designer presentation
-C	204.48	Do you want the mouse , or do you want me to Mm-hmm .	industrial designer presentation
-B	206.23	I'll do the notes .	industrial designer presentation
-B	207.03	Yeah , thanks .	industrial designer presentation
-B	211.57	So um well I I figured uh we should um identify some user requirements , and from my experience , I wanna uh , and from research I did , uh the the device has to turn the television on and off the first time you press on the big button , you can't uh can't have like uh waffling on this point , you know .	industrial designer presentation
-B	235.22	Really have It needs to be able y y have to be able to find it .	industrial designer presentation
-B	238.64	Because one of the biggest problems with remote controls is finding them .	industrial designer presentation
-B	244.49	So uh , I also , since we have to establish our corporate image on the basis of this new product , thought we better look at things that are popular and um ex go beyond those , and , as I said in the first meeting , um and then uh we might wanna talk eventually about the materials that are appropriate to use in uh in the construction , especially in the the uh the outside of the product so that it gives the appearance , and it is reliable , and so forth .	industrial designer presentation
-B	273.67	I did a little history on uh the the uh remote controls and when they were invented and so forth , so , I guess this guy Zenith uh created the Flashmatic , which I kinda like the idea , 'cause it made me think of um um maybe the remote control made a big flash when uh you turn the T_V_ on and off , that might be interesting .	industrial designer presentation
-B	293.93	And um so it was highly directional flash light that uh you could turn the picture on and off , and the sound on and off , and change channels c so I think um those are still requirements we have today , uh fifty years later .	industrial designer presentation
-B	313.6	And uh it was really a pioneering innovation , but it was uh sensitive to the sun , so that uh it would get would start off by the you'd get it would easily cause um problems .	industrial designer presentation
-B	327.09	So , uh I in addition to uh looking at the um uh the functional requir so all these devices are examples of where uh mm they represent examples that are available today which I think the one in the middle is r um really uh something to keep in mind .	existing products
-D	344.93	Fantastic .	existing products
-B	348.24	It'd be easy to find .	existing products
-B	350.22	And um it would uh y you'd you could throw it at things if if the T_V_ didn't turn on and off , you could use it for something else .	existing products
-B	360.99	And since I'm not really um Industrial Designer , I didn't really know what to do with this slide .	industrial designer presentation
-B	367.14	But um I just took some different uh schematics and I put them into this , and I guess this is what a slide might look like if you were drawing a circuit board .	industrial designer presentation
-B	380.07	I don't know why um we were asked to do this .	industrial designer presentation
-B	383.12	So , uh personal preferences , um I think we could uh I I'm really thinking outside the box here , and I think that we should consider perhaps having an an an a a size uh a remote control that changes in size depending on the user preference .	industrial designer presentation
-B	400.34	So something that's very very flexible and inflatable and then you could shrink it .	industrial designer presentation
-B	404.42	I think um it could either be you could go either one extreme , be very colourful , or you could make it clear , and um kind of blend in with things , so you didn't have to um uh have a problem with the th the decoration of the of the user's home .	industrial designer presentation
-B	421.52	Um I think uh it needs to be waterproof , because uh sometimes they fall into cups and , you know , it might be out by the swimming pool or something like that .	industrial designer presentation
-B	430.97	Um if you uh mi one of one of my requirements was about needs t to tell you when it's done its job or not , because half the time , I keep pushing on the remote control , and I don't know if it's actually understood my message , so I think it should give you some sort of an oral cue .	industrial designer presentation
-B	446.92	And uh , course I never wanna replace the battery .	industrial designer presentation
-B	450.61	So , that's those are my f preferences , and that's my presentation .	industrial designer presentation
-A	454.54	Yeah , let me uh interrupt you uh if you can add other facility , other feature , like uh unbreakable .	discussion
-B	461.46	Yes .	discussion
-A	462.14	Okay , because uh especially today , you know , you have the family and the kids , okay , and the kids throw it and they they play with their remotes and .	discussion
-B	470.09	Run over it with a car .	discussion
-A	471.41	Yes .	discussion
-A	472.14	Okay , so if you can add the feature , okay , for your uh fabric whatever in your outline design okay , with unbreakable , okay , I think that will give a lot of advantage for our product , if I'm not wrong .	discussion
-B	484.83	Good idea .	discussion
-B	485.79	Good idea , I'll I'll uh um Yes , very good .	discussion
-A	486.95	Maybe you can uh add it in that .	discussion
-A	500.13	Okay , uh thank you Christine , and uh uh any questions or uh clarifications , or any discussion on the functional design ?	discussion
-C	513.3	Do you have any preconceived ideas in terms of materials ?	discussion
-C	516.79	'Cause , for example , in the unbreakable thing , doing something plastic would be harder , whereas having something like , I dunno , steel or titanium isn't really economically viable .	discussion
-B	521.38	Hmm .	discussion
-B	524.39	Titanium .	discussion
-B	525.7	Titanium would be be heavy , too , wouldn't it ?	discussion
-D	525.93	Titanium .	discussion
-C	530.41	Yeah .	discussion
-B	533.14	No , I haven't really um I wanted feedback , I think we need to rate rank these , but we'll see what your uh personal preferences are and your thoughts .	discussion
-C	537.91	Yeah .	discussion
-C	539.52	Sure , yeah .	discussion
-C	541.02	No , I just wondering whether that you had any sort of Yeah .	discussion
-B	544.18	I like titanium .	discussion
-B	545.03	It's light .	discussion
-D	546.73	Expensive .	discussion
-B	546.83	Uh yeah but uh who who said who said we were , you know , nobody told me how mu what our financial objective is , so um It'd be hard to inflate something ou made out of titanium though .	discussion
-C	549.25	The marketing comes out .	discussion
-A	551.45	Yes .	discussion
-A	556.71	Yeah so Yeah the the I'm sorry because uh the last meeting we supposed to discuss about the financial thing .	discussion
-A	564.63	Uh let me go quickly , maybe if I can go back .	discussion
-A	568.53	I know the project plan and the budget .	discussion
-A	575.87	So I can close this , not sure .	discussion
-A	580.34	Was in uh S This .	discussion
-A	618.44	So let me see where is this file .	discussion
-C	632.08	That's Christine's .	discussion
-A	633.6	This is Christine .	discussion
-C	651.3	And that's mine , I think .	discussion
-A	652.17	That's yours , okay .	discussion
-A	654.54	Saving .	discussion
-C	658.31	In modified .	discussion
-D	659.54	I don't know , I think verbally we can we can pretty much sell .	discussion
-A	660.25	Okay , uh I will I will send you a mail , okay ?	discussion
-A	662.32	The project may be the the project aim , okay .	discussion
-A	666.1	At the end of the day , the company uh wants to make at least uh the fifty million Euro .	discussion
-A	672.64	Okay , and uh of course the price will be very reasonable on the the sales side .	discussion
-A	678.2	Okay , that maybe Eddie will talk to you about uh how much uh the price and uh what's uh how much its cost for the manufacturing and how much it's going to be we sell in the market .	discussion
-A	688.2	Okay .	discussion
-A	688.94	Then uh you can come back with your feedback .	discussion
-A	691.78	And I I have one maybe the suggestion or opinion .	discussion
-A	694.92	This remote control , okay , it can be for like universal , to use for any T_V_ .	discussion
-A	702.6	Okay , and it will be slim , okay , and uh Not fat .	discussion
-B	706.75	Not fat ?	discussion
-B	708.84	Not fat , huh .	discussion
-A	710.0	Okay .	discussion
-B	711.96	Might be hard to find , though .	discussion
-A	713.82	Yep .	discussion
-D	715.15	Hmm .	discussion
-A	715.44	But let's try it , okay , with the different uh the designs , okay , the functional designs .	discussion
-B	716.72	Oh , okay .	discussion
-A	721.09	Okay ?	discussion
-A	722.06	So any other questions ?	discussion
-D	724.72	Uh from her side , I don't think uh there's too many more questions .	discussion
-A	729.32	Okay .	discussion
-D	729.84	If you can come to the Okay , from the marketing yeah , from the marketing side , just to to give an idea what the management is looking for , I was looking for a a remote control to have a s I have a sales price of twenty-five Euro , with a production price of uh twelve and a half Euro .	marketing expert presentation discussion
-A	730.11	Thank you Christine for uh time being , so then uh Ed , so can you tell about Mm-hmm .	marketing expert presentation discussion
-C	744.66	S 'scuse me for one sec .	marketing expert presentation
-D	756.77	For what uh I think from what we're trying to find , we're tr we're looking for , I don't think that price is exactly in the market .	marketing expert presentation
-D	764.95	Okay ?	marketing expert presentation
-D	765.8	I'll explain myself here now in the sense that uh in a in the recent surveys , uh from the ages fr from fifteen to thirty-five , eighty percent are willing to spend more money for something as fancy as trendy .	marketing expert presentation
-D	780.59	Twenty-five Euros , uh that's that's a preson reasonable price .	marketing expert presentation
-D	783.59	That's a market price right now .	marketing expert presentation
-D	785.69	Now if we're gonna take a risk , and push this up a bit , make it more expensive , but give them added things that they don't have now , then it w it could possibly sell .	marketing expert presentation
-A	787.15	Yep .	marketing expert presentation
-A	794.22	Yep .	marketing expert presentation
-D	796.5	Obviously the risk is there .	marketing expert presentation
-D	797.97	Too expensive , they're not gonna buy .	marketing expert presentation
-D	800.08	But , I think uh there's one other thing interesting two things that are interesting is that uh from the fifteen to thirty-five year-old group , which always spends more money on trendy new things , speech recognition is requested .	marketing expert presentation
-D	816.49	And we're talking between seventy-five to ninety percent of this group is willing to pay for speech recognition on a remote .	marketing expert presentation
-B	817.11	Speech recognition? .	marketing expert presentation
-A	824.59	Mm-hmm .	marketing expert presentation
-D	825.47	Obviously , we can't make a remote into a computer , but maybe simple commands .	marketing expert presentation
-D	830.87	I dunno , louder , softer , on , off .	marketing expert presentation
-D	836.27	That might be a possibility , even though it costs more , to be the first on the market to produce this .	marketing expert presentation
-D	842.75	Thirty-five percent say they're too difficult to use .	marketing expert presentation
-D	845.37	So we have to figure out a way of making it um more user friendly .	marketing expert presentation
-D	850.23	Uh fifty percent say they can't find the remote half the time .	marketing expert presentation
-D	855.45	So maybe one word speech recognition commands , say remote , and there's a beep beep beep , and they can find it through , you know , ten tons of newspapers , magazines , whatever you have at home .	marketing expert presentation
-D	866.0	But , in the cost that uh the management is looking for , that's not gonna be possible .	marketing expert presentation
-D	871.35	But if it's trendy , if it's fancy , it's got some colour to it , if it's very easy easy to use , if it's got simple remote speech remote uh control , like I said , louder , softer , change channel , on , off , remote , it goes beep beep , I can find my my remote without spending half a day looking for it and getting all upset 'cause I can't turn the T_V_ on .	marketing expert presentation
-D	892.43	So we're gonna have to look at it in a in this global idea , with the ideas of the industrial uh design .	marketing expert presentation
-D	901.11	But , price obviously we have to talk about .	marketing expert presentation
-A	903.56	Yep .	marketing expert presentation
-A	905.16	So what do you think about uh the design ?	components, materials and energy sources
-A	908.54	Do you think you can make it or uh What do you think about uh the design , uh what he was talking about of the speech recognition ?	components, materials and energy sources
-B	914.62	D uh I'm sorry ?	components, materials and energy sources
-D	920.79	Speech recognition .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	925.57	Well , uh training is always an issue with uh commands .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	930.84	Mm-hmm .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	931.35	So um might uh we can perhaps um do it if the user is willing to spend some time in the training process , uh it could reduce th th uh the overall um cost .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	950.69	Not sure how .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	952.55	But um anyway , um I I think also that uh this might impact the battery life .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	961.49	And um so , maybe what we'll have to do is um add something where you can um recharge it wirelessly so that uh y you know sen send power to it .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	977.8	So uh or maybe uh set it out in the sun and it uh , you know , gets uh , from the light , um a a solar cell inside there so that uh you have enough uh juice to do all these fancy things .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	981.0	Hmm .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	991.27	It seems also like with the speech recognition , yeah , it's a great feature , but if you're watching T_V_ , there's a lot of ambient sound , and it's words .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	998.99	It's not just , you know , noises like something hitting .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1002.24	It's actual speech , so then you have to make sure that the speech recognizer is good enough to filter out the T_V_ speech , and the the user's speech .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1011.53	Otherwise , you can say remote .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1012.93	Off .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1013.13	But if someone on the screen is saying the same thing , all of a sudden , you have someone in a movie saying off and your screen dies , because they've triggered the remote control and it's turned off your T_V_ .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1025.38	So , I think if we can find a speech recognizer that can handle those types of problems , then yeah , it'd be a really good marketing gimmick .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1031.43	Mm .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1032.55	But , I think we seriously need to consider how that would impact the situation .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1039.6	Very good point .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1041.17	Because tha w with speech recognition uh th I'm not that good at that idea but th if it's a one-word recognition , 'cause I know with telephones and cars and things I've seen in the States , a friend of mine says call Mom , and it calls up Mom .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1047.62	Mm-hmm .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1054.16	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1058.69	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1059.17	'Kay the radio can be on and everything .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1061.05	Yep .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1061.68	Because I think s with speech recognition , if uh the the remote or like the telephone it has a exact word that it has to hear .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1069.55	Mm-hmm .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1071.08	I don't think it would come through a sentence in a television .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1073.86	If somebody's speaking on the se the television , they're not gonna stop and say remote , okay .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1078.29	Mm-hmm .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1079.13	So I think that uh something could be designed to recognise single word Like the t like the telephone .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1083.34	Oh yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1083.99	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1084.62	No , I think it's a great idea if we can design it to to suit those requirements .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1086.49	No because I this is this is years ago in the United States where we're driving down and he said call home , and the telephone called immediately so well , that's kinda cute .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1092.75	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1099.43	Well , what I can uh suggest to you , Christine , okay , uh if you need some uh the technical feedback , or some training , okay , about uh this facility , especially for the speech recognition , I can recommend you some companies like uh Intel or I_B_M_ , okay , because they're already in this uh speech recognition part , okay .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1121.29	And uh you can maybe have some uh technical backup from them , some kind of a technical tie-up .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1127.44	Okay , and uh if you want , I can coordinate , okay , to get some information , okay , and uh you can uh let me know , okay , so what kind of uh the details you require okay , to add this feature in this project .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1146.18	I don't think it's uh the difficult .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1152.64	And uh we need to know how much is the timeframe you need to develop , apart from uh what today .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1161.52	Okay , we'll find that out .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1162.88	Yep .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1164.33	From from your side uh , you're gonna have to go back the management and s be more s precise .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	1168.02	Yes .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	1169.46	What do they want ?	project specs and roles of participants
-A	1169.98	Yes .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	1170.54	Uh , a risk , take a risk on the market ?	project specs and roles of participants
-D	1173.52	Something that's gonna cost more , but could very easily s make a boom in the market ?	project specs and roles of participants
-A	1176.99	Yes .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	1178.53	Yep .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	1179.08	Because it has to be something totally different , has to be total totally new .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	1182.31	Something that nobody has right now .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	1184.92	Yeah but but end of the day , you're the sales guy , so I will come back and sit on your head because uh you are going to give your sales projection , okay .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	1184.96	And it's gonna cost .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	1194.13	It's uh of course it's uh good to uh tell the management how much it's cost us and how much you are going to benefit , okay .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	1194.39	Mm-hmm .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	1199.54	Sure .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	1200.0	Sure .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	1200.95	And uh , so I don't mind to convince , okay , the management to spend some more money on the project , okay , if you can make out of the money from this project .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	1211.24	Obviously .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	1212.9	If the bottom line is positive .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	1213.82	Yes , okay I don't mind to convince the the management , okay .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	1217.4	Mm .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	1218.29	The management says , okay , so they they don't want certain facilities , which it's already worked , okay , they want something uh new , okay .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	1226.21	I think uh like uh speech recognit definitely they will agree , I don't think they'll say no for that , okay .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	1231.79	And uh I hope I can convince the management on that , okay .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	1236.16	So if you have any uh new ideas , okay , for uh your you can always come up and uh you can tell me if you need any uh s special , okay , coordination , okay , between any uh technical companies , which you can uh hide their technology backup , okay , for your uh functional design or technical design , okay , then I am ready to do that .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	1261.53	And uh what's your comments about uh Yeah , so you are finish , Ed , uh so I can uh Okay , I'll uh hand over to Agnes .	interface specialist presentation
-C	1266.12	Um well , I mean , maybe if I go through my presentation , you can sort of see what the user perspective is , and how it ties into the other two comments .	interface specialist presentation
-D	1270.42	Mm .	interface specialist presentation
-D	1276.63	Yes .	interface specialist presentation
-D	1277.4	Mm .	interface specialist presentation
-A	1282.11	Just gonna close this .	interface specialist presentation
-A	1284.51	T Uh where are you , here ?	interface specialist presentation
-C	1289.1	Mm participant three .	interface specialist presentation
-A	1291.17	Participant three .	interface specialist presentation
-C	1298.01	Nope , here Good .	interface specialist presentation
-A	1299.64	Okay , so I'll yep .	interface specialist presentation
-A	1317.39	Okay .	interface specialist presentation
-C	1323.79	Thanks .	interface specialist presentation
-A	1324.26	Is it okay ?	interface specialist presentation
-A	1324.91	Alri Click mm .	interface specialist presentation
-C	1325.04	Yeah , and that's fine .	interface specialist presentation
-C	1328.39	Okay .	interface specialist presentation
-C	1329.16	So , basically , the method that we usually use in the user interface design is that we need to look at what people like and what people don't like about existing products .	interface specialist presentation
-C	1339.18	So , in our case , existing remote controls .	interface specialist presentation
-C	1341.64	And then , what the good ideas are , and what the bad ideas are , and why they're bad and good , which isn't always as obvious .	interface specialist presentation
-C	1347.3	We seem to have intuitions about why things are good or things are bad , but when you look , technically , at how it works , sometimes that's not the case .	interface specialist presentation
-C	1356.89	Then we need to decide what functionalities we really want to keep , 'cause that'll feed into both Ed's work and Christine's work .	interface specialist presentation
-C	1364.52	Um and then what the remote control should look like , obviously , once we've got a good idea of what the functionalities are .	interface specialist presentation
-C	1371.41	So , in terms of the functionalities that we need , you obviously need to be able to turn the T_V_ on and off .	interface specialist presentation
-C	1375.6	You need to change channels , both by directly going to a specific channel or by channel surfing .	interface specialist presentation
-C	1381.12	You need to be able to control the volume and then control any menus on the T_V_ to regulate contrast or whatever .	interface specialist presentation
-C	1392.05	So , the problems that people have expressed is that there's too many buttons on remote controls , in general .	interface specialist presentation
-C	1397.62	The buttons it's not clear what they're supposed to do .	interface specialist presentation
-C	1401.33	Um often , you need to know specific button sequences to get certain functionalities done , um which you don't necessarily always remember , especially if it's a functionality that you don't use very often .	interface specialist presentation
-C	1413.4	And that the buttons are too small .	interface specialist presentation
-C	1416.14	So , here we've got two examples where here on the left-hand side , you can see a remote control that has lots and lots of buttons .	existing products
-C	1424.43	The buttons , in a lot of cases , are tiny .	existing products
-C	1427.58	Um they're hard to see , and okay , they're labelled , but the labels don't necessarily tell you too much .	existing products
-C	1434.33	Whereas , on the other side , you have a much simpler remote control that I think basically has the minimum functionalities that are needed .	existing products
-C	1442.72	And it sort of looks simpler and just less imposing when you first look at it .	existing products
-C	1448.29	So , I would be inclined to go sort of towards this , in terms of design , rather than this .	existing products
-C	1454.54	And if there's specific functionalities that require more buttons , then we can figure out how to do it with existing um buttons .	existing products
-C	1462.02	So my personal preferences are to keep the number of buttons to a limit , or to a minimum , sorry , make frequently used buttons bigger and more strategically placed , so like the on button being really obvious one , the channel changing and the volume , and to keep the design basically sleek and simple .	interface specialist presentation
-C	1479.43	Which , I think ties into what Christine and Ed have both said fairly reasonably .	interface specialist presentation
-C	1485.7	Um so , that's pretty much it , an I don't know if you guys have any questions or Yep .	interface specialist presentation discussion
-B	1497.75	Oh , it's um , seems very understandable .	discussion
-B	1501.41	Clearly your research and uh and ours uh heading in the same direction , and um uh the only thing that I saw missing from uh your your research that we found was this uh ability to find the doggone thing when you need it .	discussion
-C	1520.53	Yes , that's true .	discussion
-B	1521.46	So uh , you know , but that's okay .	discussion
-C	1522.03	Yeah .	discussion
-B	1523.09	That's why we're all here at the table , so that if we think of it and our research indicates certain things and um w we it's complementary .	discussion
-C	1529.35	Yeah .	discussion
-B	1531.99	I also think that um uh th f the the feel of it is uh , when you hold it , is something that um uh was expressed more in in in in my uh design and that's logical and normal 'cause those are the parameters that an Industrial Designer's more thinking about , th th the look and the feel , and uh , you're First .	discussion
-C	1550.46	Mm-hmm .	discussion
-C	1551.18	Yeah .	discussion
-C	1557.58	Yeah .	discussion
-C	1559.93	Oh , that's definitely a very important factor , especially to users who are gonna be buying the thing and then using it almost on an daily basis in a lot of cases , I think .	discussion
-B	1562.87	Yep .	discussion
-B	1567.67	Mm-hmm .	discussion
-B	1570.91	Okay , so I don't have any questions .	discussion
-B	1573.0	Sounds good .	discussion
-A	1575.09	So for anybody need uh any help , for time being , on this uh subjects , okay , so please come back to me , and uh Christine , maybe I can uh try to help you to get some uh the technical uh the companies to help you for uh make a design uh slim , okay , and to add some features , like we are talking about , the speech recognition and all .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	1581.19	Oh Should we maybe make a decision about what features we actually want to include , 'cause we've thrown a lot of features onto the table , but do we actually want to incorporate all of them , or have we missed anything ?	agenda/equipment issues
-A	1603.76	Yeah .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	1612.63	Hmm .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	1613.78	Do you wanna go back and look at the closing slide , maybe that would provide some guidance ?	agenda/equipment issues
-C	1618.62	Sure .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	1633.91	Doesn't really tell us .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	1634.97	So not really this one we are talk ab Yep .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	1636.96	Individual actions .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	1637.75	Well it says individual actions , it says user interf so I'm supposed to do the components concept , supposed to work on the user interface concept , and you're supposed to keep watching the trends .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	1645.34	Mm-hmm .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	1649.78	Um and specific instructions will be sent by our our coach .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	1654.77	I think we should do as many features as uh start with all of them right now and eliminate them later in the process , that's my suggestion .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	1654.78	I thought No , I I'm just thinking in terms of time , like if Yes , now I'm objecting .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	1665.11	Okay , that will be great .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	1668.05	And uh I'll send you the the minutes of meet Yeah .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	1670.09	You can object if you want to I think we should take that as an action item for after the meeting , 'cause w our meeting time has run out .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	1674.08	She's objecting .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	1677.3	No , I mean , I was just thinking is it really practical to start designing something with features that we're just gonna end up throwing away ?	agenda/equipment issues
-C	1683.97	I mean , it takes a lot of time and effort for everyone to consider different features , um and s if we spend that time and effort on features that we're not gonna use , maybe it's better to spend it on the f thinking more about features that we actually do want , but I guess Sure .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	1702.53	Oh th we s we still have Yeah .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	1706.7	Right .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	1706.98	Somebody else has go to use this room , and , you know , we can't hang out here and talk about this , so Thank you very much .	agenda/equipment issues closing
-C	1708.8	Yeah .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	1710.48	Yeah .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	1710.74	Sure .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	1712.03	Okay , what we'll do is now we'll take for lunch break , okay , then uh we can discuss furthermore , okay , with our areas , and uh then we will come back again in the in the next meeting .	closing
-A	1721.81	So thanks for coming and uh I'll send you minutes of meeting , and uh please put your all information in the sharing folder so everybody can share the information .	closing
-A	1731.26	Okay ?	closing
-C	1731.53	Okay .	closing
-A	1732.44	So let's go for lunch then .	closing
-D	1735.07	Agreed .	closing
-A	1735.45	Thank you .	closing

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-A	26.78	Uh welcome back after lunch , I hope uh you had a good lunch together .	opening
-A	35.7	For uh this meeting the main agenda okay uh to discuss about the conceptual design meeting .	opening
-A	46.9	Okay and the agenda will be the opening and uh that's uh the product manager or secretary that's me and uh the presentations from the Christine and uh Agnes and from Mister Ed .	opening
-A	68.92	And finally in this meeting we have to decide and we are to take a decision on the remote control concept and uh the functional design So we have forty minutes , I think it's uh little bit uh low , but I I hope we can finish it up so I'll handle to the the functional team , to the Christine , okay , to discuss about uh the components concept .	industrial designer presentation opening
-C	104.21	Okay .	industrial designer presentation
-C	105.61	So uh , if you could open the PowerPoint presentation .	industrial designer presentation
-C	110.46	I'm number two .	industrial designer presentation
-A	111.69	You're number two .	industrial designer presentation
-A	117.46	'Kay The next one .	industrial designer presentation
-C	121.52	Components design , there we go .	industrial designer presentation
-C	126.45	So uh can we put it in slide show mode ?	industrial designer presentation
-C	129.62	Yeah .	industrial designer presentation
-C	131.65	Right here , is that little that one , yes please .	industrial designer presentation
-C	135.3	Thank you .	industrial designer presentation
-C	136.49	I'll take the mouse .	industrial designer presentation
-C	140.05	So uh we were looking he specifically at the components uh the following components , uh the case , the power supply , uh the means of communications with the television set .	industrial designer presentation
-C	158.1	In instance we had talked about using some sort of speech recognition , you have to have microphone well no you don't actually I haven't have to have microphone in the device , but um maybe you do have it a a way it has to it has to hear the speaker and um , so it could be in the television set , could be in the device , but somewhere you have to put the microphone , um and a w a way of making beeps or sounds so you can find it when it's gets lost .	industrial designer presentation
-B	174.58	Mm-hmm .	industrial designer presentation
-C	187.13	Um so the other w thing that we So .	industrial designer presentation
-C	190.53	Our method for going about this is we've looked at uh the histo hi historical record , what's worked , what hasn't and then we also um we wanted to evaluate some new materials and we contacted manufacturing for their input because , course , we m might come up and choose the material that then manufacturing didn't have the technologies or capabilities to offer us , so uh this is the approach that we took during our um our research .	industrial designer presentation
-C	219.89	So um for the case , um we told we were making a specifica specific assumption that it would be curved in design .	industrial designer presentation
-C	229.35	Course , you know , I wanted it to be expandable and shrinkable , but um that uh doesn't seem to b be one of the choic non-option we can uh we can really seriously explore , so then we were thinking about um rubber , but um unfortunately that's been eliminated because of the heat uh factor and th um there might be some problems with the m uh how it's uh goes with the board .	industrial designer presentation
-C	260.16	Uh and uh then th plastic also has this problem of melting and it's brittle it gets brittle after a while , so um we still had titanium and and wood available , but um unfortunately uh uh titanium's also been eliminated uh , the m people in manufacturing said that you couldn't make d curved cases out of titanium , although how Apple did it with th PowerBook I'm not su quite sure but uh nevertheless um they've eliminated all of our options except wood .	industrial designer presentation
-C	292.47	So , this is our finding .	industrial designer presentation
-B	292.57	At least it's environmentally friendly .	industrial designer presentation
-C	295.09	And a as she said , it's an environmentally friendly uh material , so we're we're currently uh proposing , uh we'll get to all my personal preferences in just a second .	industrial designer presentation
-C	305.98	So then there's this other matter of the chips and um well we could use a simple design on the board , but uh these simple chips , but that's only works for the bu you don't get very much um intelligence with this simple one .	industrial designer presentation
-C	318.31	And um then there was the regular which I regret that I've forgotten exactly why I'm eliminating that one .	industrial designer presentation
-C	328.48	Uh the other option was this advanced chip on print , and uh we liked th we we found that it it includes this infrared sender , which w 'member the beam was that was an important component of finding the right chip .	industrial designer presentation
-C	343.08	And uh manufacturing has told us that they've um uh recently developed a uh a sensor and a speaker that would uh be integrated into this advanced chip on print , so uh we we uh now jumping right to our personal preferences um I I'd really think we should , you know , use some of uh some really exotic woods , like um , you know uh , well you guys come from tropical countries so you can kinda think of some trees and some nice woods .	industrial designer presentation
-C	374.49	I think that people will might really want to design their own cases , you see , they could do sort of a this um three-dimensional design on the internet , and then they could submit their orders , kinda like you submit a custom car order , you know , and you can choose the colour and the size of the wheels and the colours of the leather and things like that , and then I uh think we should go with the solar cells as well as the um microphone and speaker on the advanced chip .	industrial designer presentation
-C	402.6	So this is the findings of our research and my recommendations um for the new remote control w um would be to have um have it be made out of wood .	industrial designer presentation
-C	414.13	Do you have any problems with that ?	industrial designer presentation
-A	416.33	Can you go back uh one slide ?	industrial designer presentation
-C	419.28	I'm not sure , how do I Oh , I know , let's see .	industrial designer presentation
-B	421.29	Thank you .	industrial designer presentation
-C	421.36	Let's go back up here .	industrial designer presentation
-B	422.54	Yeah .	industrial designer presentation
-A	422.84	Yes , uh question , uh , what's mean exactly , advanced chip on print ?	components, materials and energy sources
-A	429.72	What's the meaning of that ?	components, materials and energy sources
-C	431.0	I think it's um um a multiple uh chip design um and it's uh maybe printed on to the circuit board .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	441.64	Mm-hmm .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	442.13	Uh I could find out more about that uh before the next fi next meeting .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	444.49	Yeah , is it means it's on the yeah is it on a micro-proc micro-processor based or uh Okay , tha that would be great , so if you find out from the technology background , okay , so that would be good .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	452.72	I don't know , but I'll find out more at our next meeting .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	459.89	Sounds good .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	461.26	Why was the plastic eliminated as a possible material ?	components, materials and energy sources
-C	463.94	Because um it gets brittle , cracks Um We want we expect these um uh these remote controls to be around for several hundred years .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	468.67	Mm-hmm .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	481.0	So .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	481.68	Good ex Good expression .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	482.65	Whic Which Although I think I think with wood though you'd run into the same types of problems , wouldn't you , I mean it chips , it if you drop it , uh it's I'm not su I think if you re if you use really good quality wood , then it might work , but you can't just use Yeah , exactly , yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	482.87	Wow , good expression .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	488.33	Well after us .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	492.16	I don't know , speak for yourself , I'm planning to be around for a while .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	506.64	So so you're not convinced about the the wood , yes .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	508.2	Actually , I'm ready to sell it .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	510.88	you're what ?	components, materials and energy sources
-D	511.73	I'm ready to sell it .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	513.59	You think ?	components, materials and energy sources
-D	515.75	No y no no no , the o the only w the only wood you can use are the ones that are hard , extremely hard wood , but there are some very pretty woods out there .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	515.94	And you could you could sell oils with it , to take care of it .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	525.97	Well I'm glad you Okay , good .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	526.36	That's actually very innovative idea .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	529.86	Sorr having a hard time keeping wi control over my face .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	535.69	Well , it's actually a very innovative n different idea that uh you know you can choose your colour of wood , your type of wood .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	541.7	Mm-hmm .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	542.94	The stain .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	543.41	I mean it's each person is gonna have their own personalised , individualised speech recognition remote control in wood , that's not on the market .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	548.26	Mm .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	552.42	Yeah , so it it's looks good the the design the functional design uh , what about yo you ?	components, materials and energy sources
-B	559.42	Um , in terms of comments on this or in terms of my own Y yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	562.3	Yes , in t yes , in term in terms of comments first Okay then , uh , let's move to Agnes .	interface specialist presentation components, materials and energy sources
-D	563.55	In turns of wow .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	567.62	She works in the cubicle next to me so she's uh she was already a little bit prepared for this .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	572.97	Luckily Ed was not .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	574.9	Wood ?	components, materials and energy sources
-B	578.08	I think we can get the quality materials then it shouldn't influence the design principles too much , which you'll see with my presentation .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	586.98	One thing we'd have to check though is what the users whether how quickly the novelty wears off of having uh Yeah , for example .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	592.25	Mm-hmm .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	593.37	Yeah , you wouldn't wanna have to have splinters in your hand while you're using your It's really good if your dog gets ahold of it , they can use it for teething .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	597.5	So , have to see how kid-friendly it is and and all that , but Sure .	interface specialist presentation components, materials and energy sources
-D	610.38	They do that anyway with the rubber and plastic , so , and chew 'em up .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	612.51	Yeah , they do it with other materials as well , yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	615.35	And chew 'em up .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	622.86	Oh , I'm sorry .	interface specialist presentation
-A	630.08	S you're You are in participant three .	interface specialist presentation
-B	639.43	One point three , yeah .	interface specialist presentation
-B	642.37	Uh , yeah .	interface specialist presentation
-A	643.62	This one ?	interface specialist presentation
-B	644.22	I think so , yeah .	interface specialist presentation
-B	646.96	Yeah , that's the one .	interface specialist presentation
-B	648.26	So , it's a very short presentation , 'cause I'm actually gonna draw you the layout on the board so if you want to just go straight to the second slide , um , which basically shows , sort of I took the ideas that we were talking about last time um and tried to put that into the remote control so the things that y you can actually see on it are the on off switch , volume and channel control , the menu access button , ergonomic shape , which I completely agree with Christine's idea to have it sort of molded , so it's slightly more ergonomic and comfortable to hold than the r standard very straight remote controls .	interface specialist presentation
-B	681.15	And actually the other thing with the wood if we take your customising idea , is that people can actually do sort of quasi-measurements on their hand size , so if someone has larger hands , you have a wider remote control .	interface specialist presentation
-C	689.12	Right , my hand is uh different size than yours for example .	interface specialist presentation
-B	693.59	So , that's actually a really good idea for customi customisability .	interface specialist presentation
-B	697.28	Um , one thing I thought might be kind of interesting is to put a flip screen on it , just like you have on flip phones , so that you don't have this case where someone sits on the remote control or accidentally puts their hand on it , especially if you have little kids around , they're not pressing the buttons while you're trying to watch a T_V_ show and accidentally change the channel or turn it off .	interface specialist presentation
-C	715.04	Mm-hmm .	interface specialist presentation
-B	716.75	And also um you had issues with the batteries running out , so I thought maybe we could put a little battery life-light on it that kind of goes dimmer and dimmer and dimmer as your battery is starts to die .	interface specialist presentation
-B	727.69	And in terms of invisible features , audio and um tactile feedback on button presses and , like you said , speech recognition .	interface specialist presentation
-C	732.99	Mm-hmm .	interface specialist presentation
-B	737.44	So , in terms of what this thing would actually look like Despite working in interface design , I'm not the greatest artist in the world , so you'll have to forgive me .	interface specialist presentation
-B	750.93	You'd have something like this with an on-off switch fairly big , sort of in the corner and by itself , so you don't accidentally turn your T_V_ off while you're trying to manoeuvre other buttons .	interface specialist presentation
-B	761.18	And then you have sort of one of those toggle displays for , oops , channels and volume , sort of for surfing channels and then volume , so the volume would be the up and down , 'cause volume goes up and down and then channels left to right .	interface specialist presentation
-B	777.8	And then here you'd have your sort of standard , telephonish number pad .	interface specialist presentation
-B	786.82	And then on one side you would have an access to the menu on your T_V_ and on the other side a way to turn off the voice control .	interface specialist presentation
-B	797.08	So that if the user doesn't want to use their voice , they can just turn it off and you don't have the remote control accidentally changing things on you .	interface specialist presentation
-C	798.09	Mm .	interface specialist presentation
-C	801.19	Mm-hmm .	interface specialist presentation
-B	805.68	Um , so again you can have a little L_C_D_ light somewhere , the flip thing and Have I forgotten anything ?	interface specialist presentation
-B	816.03	I don't think so .	interface specialist presentation
-B	817.41	So , as you can see , it's a very very simple design , which is one of the things I really wanted to keep , is keep it simple , not have too many buttons , not have too many functionalities thrown into it .	interface specialist presentation
-D	817.52	No .	interface specialist presentation
-B	827.75	Think the design can pretty much carry over to everything , although with the wood the flip screen might have to do something slightly different .	interface specialist presentation
-C	836.6	A hinge .	interface specialist presentation
-C	838.26	Be like a copper hinge or you know .	interface specialist presentation
-B	839.77	Yeah .	interface specialist presentation
-B	840.48	But you also have to d start watching out for the weight , 'cause depending on how much the the flip screen will add to the weight of the remote control , you don't want it to start getting too heavy .	interface specialist presentation
-C	845.48	Mm-hmm .	interface specialist presentation
-C	848.51	Mm .	interface specialist presentation
-B	849.33	But that's the general layout with the general functionalities , if we come up with something else .	interface specialist presentation
-B	854.25	As you can see , there's still lots of space on the actual remote control and if you do it customisably , you can make this thing fairly small or fairly o large , depending on personal preferences .	interface specialist presentation
-C	863.48	Mm-hmm , mm-hmm .	interface specialist presentation
-D	866.73	Hmm .	interface specialist presentation
-B	867.38	So , that's pretty much all I had to say , I mean , everything else in terms of design issues .	interface specialist presentation
-B	874.11	Um the centering of the key pad and the channel is just depending on where your thumb is and you tend to use the the volume control and uh the browsing more than the actual number pad , so that would be sort of in direct line of where your thumb goes when you are holding the remote control , the number pad a little bit lower 'cause it's used less frequently .	interface specialist presentation
-C	889.91	Mm-hmm .	interface specialist presentation
-C	893.01	Mm .	interface specialist presentation
-C	894.01	Mm-hmm .	interface specialist presentation
-B	895.14	So once we decide exactly what we want , then we can figure out the exact positioning , but more or less I think it should go along those lines .	interface specialist presentation
-A	904.66	So what's your , uh , the comments or uh s Okay Mm-hmm .	interface specialist presentation marketing expert presentation
-D	909.67	Simple design .	interface specialist presentation
-D	911.95	It's what consumers want .	interface specialist presentation
-D	914.68	It's almost like , Houston , we have a product here .	interface specialist presentation
-D	919.29	Problem is obviously gonna be cost .	interface specialist presentation
-B	921.51	Mm-hmm .	interface specialist presentation
-D	923.15	Okay , I also have a f very simple presentation , because for the marketing point you have to see what the consumers want .	marketing expert presentation
-A	930.62	Yeah .	marketing expert presentation
-B	932.4	Yeah .	marketing expert presentation
-D	933.35	I also have uh copied a different type of remote .	marketing expert presentation
-D	941.01	If you can find me , where I'm at .	marketing expert presentation
-D	944.3	There should only be one in here .	marketing expert presentation
-D	946.81	trend watch .	marketing expert presentation
-C	953.23	Sure .	marketing expert presentation
-D	954.84	It's being modified .	marketing expert presentation
-D	957.22	They're stealing our product .	marketing expert presentation
-D	960.63	We've been giving simple questionnaires in different areas because th obviously we have to see what the com consumers are looking for today , 'cause uh trends change very very quickly .	marketing expert presentation
-D	970.96	In six months maybe this idea is already gone out the window , so it's gonna be a question how fast we can act .	marketing expert presentation
-D	977.84	Uh they already erased the rest of mine , huh .	marketing expert presentation
-C	980.77	No , f go to findings .	marketing expert presentation
-B	981.38	No , no .	marketing expert presentation
-D	982.15	No no , no no .	marketing expert presentation
-D	985.35	'Cause I had another comment there .	marketing expert presentation
-D	987.02	Uh the market trend .	marketing expert presentation
-D	989.23	This is what we know from the last uh from the questionnaires from the the all the p surveys we've done , fancy and feel-good , that's what we've been looking for , something that feels good in the hand , that's easy to use .	marketing expert presentation
-D	1000.58	Looking for next generation of innovation , because all the remotes out there now , they're all very similar , they all do the same thing , we have to have something completely different .	marketing expert presentation
-D	1009.28	Okay ?	marketing expert presentation
-D	1009.99	Easy to use , has always has become has become another major interest that uh , with the whiteboard we can see that it's a remote that's easy to use .	marketing expert presentation
-D	1019.42	And I think this is another thing that's interesting is the consumers actually willing to pay the price for exciting tel technology .	marketing expert presentation
-D	1025.31	So even if we have a product that may be more expensive , if it comes out right , if they look it looks and feels good and has technology .	marketing expert presentation
-D	1035.33	The second two , you can see the last one is a very easy simple design .	marketing expert presentation
-D	1040.63	The second one , there is about uh forty-five thousand different buttons on it , which makes it fairly hard to read , uh very hard to use .	marketing expert presentation
-D	1047.09	The first one , I see that they put in a display .	marketing expert presentation
-D	1051.42	Now there's something else uh with the little flip-up , now we're adding all kinds of things in , but with the little flip-up , if you have a little display on the flip-up that when you close it everything is locked .	marketing expert presentation
-B	1055.25	Mm-hmm .	marketing expert presentation
-B	1059.59	Yeah .	marketing expert presentation
-D	1060.01	Maybe the display also makes it easier to use , because sometimes when you're looking for buttons , maybe if you see a display Okay Because I've seen mostly the standard ones , yeah .	marketing expert presentation
-C	1066.84	Context-sensitive instructions , depending on what the tel what mode the T_V_ or the D_V_D_ or something else is in .	marketing expert presentation
-B	1069.25	Right .	marketing expert presentation
-B	1073.66	Especially you might need something like that for training the speech recognition and yeah .	marketing expert presentation
-D	1076.29	Now you have it now you have one with the very simple also .	marketing expert presentation
-D	1079.54	The idea is simple , but with a display , so you can see what you're doing .	marketing expert presentation
-B	1081.76	Mm-hmm .	marketing expert presentation
-D	1083.82	So maybe if we can incorporate the easiness of use , trendy , fancy , feels good , uh with a display , wood , designer wood , designer colours , we might've Mm-hmm .	marketing expert presentation
-B	1087.36	Mm-hmm .	marketing expert presentation
-C	1100.37	You know , maybe what you could do is when somebody orders the device id you could send them like um a uh uh b some sort of a foam rubber um ball , and then they would squeeze it , and it would take the shape of their hand .	marketing expert presentation
-B	1115.54	Oh yeah .	marketing expert presentation
-B	1119.48	Yeah , so it's really molded to to your specific But th for that you'd also have to do sort of an average across families and things like that if unless everyone has their own personal remote .	marketing expert presentation
-C	1121.09	To t an and then you would know like um what the geometry of their hands would be and uh Yes you'd know what kind of wood to get .	marketing expert presentation
-D	1129.34	How hard they squeeze ?	marketing expert presentation
-D	1131.99	Resistance resistance , right .	marketing expert presentation
-C	1139.8	That's right , that's right , you wouldn't wanna go too far down that .	marketing expert presentation
-C	1143.75	Oh that that actually would uh increase the um the revenues we could expect , yeah .	marketing expert presentation
-B	1146.63	The sales , yeah .	marketing expert presentation
-A	1147.58	The Yeah .	marketing expert presentation
-A	1150.61	I hope so .	marketing expert presentation
-D	1151.28	No , but incorporating the three uh obviously it'd be something totally new on the market , totally different and from Although , what it was it uh it was uh Nokia that came out with this changeable colours .	marketing expert presentation
-B	1155.94	Yeah .	marketing expert presentation
-B	1158.72	Well , already the customisability is a really good sort of new gimmick .	marketing expert presentation
-C	1169.03	Mm-hmm .	marketing expert presentation
-D	1169.24	Right , you take it apart , and put on another face , take it off and put on another face and then they sold millions , millions .	marketing expert presentation
-B	1169.38	Yeah .	marketing expert presentation
-B	1170.82	Yeah .	marketing expert presentation
-C	1172.11	Right , mm .	marketing expert presentation
-B	1173.49	And that took off , yeah , yeah .	marketing expert presentation
-D	1177.95	So .	marketing expert presentation
-D	1179.25	So say with the f with the findings , with the research , easy to use something totally new .	marketing expert presentation
-B	1183.84	Mm-hmm .	marketing expert presentation
-D	1183.95	We have to come up with something totally new that is not on the market .	marketing expert presentation
-C	1186.72	We'd also have to wor um consider that uh who we were gonna get to make these custom cases in terms of manufacturing processes , we might wanna um learn about um labour laws .	discussion
-C	1200.0	You know in different countries and stuff wher so we can do it cheap , but you don't wanna exploit uh labour in um third world countries .	discussion
-A	1208.966	Yeah .	discussion
-C	1209.45	So actually you could turn it y turn around and say that you're uh par the reason the cost is high for the device is because um you're paying a a working wage to the person who made the device .	discussion
-B	1222.79	Mm-hmm .	discussion
-A	1223.46	Yeah , but we can get a production in , uh , countries like , uh , India yes , yes , countries like India or China or Malaysia , so you can go a better features and better price and you can sell more .	discussion
-C	1228.12	Cost of living is low .	discussion
-A	1237.71	So Yeah , yeah , so Yes .	discussion
-C	1241.92	Good , well th that'd be something that manufacturing would have to um explore more and to where Mm-hmm .	discussion
-B	1246.74	Mm yeah .	discussion
-D	1246.98	Where w Where it would be manufactured is is another step .	discussion
-A	1250.44	So Yeah , so Yes uh , but uh that that we can that we can talk about the production later , okay , depends on the the quantity , okay .	discussion
-C	1251.75	Yeah .	discussion
-D	1251.82	We're here to design , come up with a nice product .	discussion
-B	1255.7	Mm-hmm .	discussion
-C	1259.67	Mm-hmm .	discussion
-A	1260.12	So we don't need to have our own uh fabric factory or something , so we can have a tie-up with who the do the fabric , okay , for the different uh electronics items , then we can have a business tie-up and to get to cut the cost , okay , to sell more .	discussion
-A	1276.72	So , but uh le let's decide first about the components concept and uh interface concept , okay , if is acceptable for both of you , what uh Ed was talking .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1290.68	And your design whether you want with the display or without display or just a simple , so Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1293.84	Mm-hmm .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1298.51	I think it depends , I mean I think it's a good idea , but we need to really think about how useful it's gonna be because theoretically with the T_V_ you already have a big display right in front of you .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1309.4	Hmm .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1310.24	So , if we're trying to keep costs down , then maybe sacrificing the display is a way to go .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1316.84	Hmm .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1319.34	I mean it depends on how much putting a display costs and what it would be used for very specifically what it would be used for , 'cause if it's only used for one little thing , then putting in a big display case or a big display that's probably expensive just to do the training on the chip for the speech recognition or whatever , may not be the most cost-efficient way to go , but that's just sort of speculation , I mean .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1322.24	Hmm .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1325.01	Mm-hmm .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1345.26	What do you think Ed ?	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1346.04	Do you he liked the display in one of the concepts that you showed , um , do you know how much it costs , um , to to add a little display like this uh ?	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1357.27	No .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1358.18	No no p spec It's 'cause we have to find out cost on it .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1359.04	Do you wanna take an action item to go find out ?	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1363.85	Okay .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1366.36	Sorry about that .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1366.66	Um , no that's no problem .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1368.35	I'm here for the pushing it after it's made .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1371.08	Yes .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1371.56	I will market it .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1374.14	Once we get a price on it then we can market it .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1379.32	So the the advanced chip on print is what um what we've we've deci we've determined and the uh engineering industrial design is the recommendation , and um I think we've kinda come to some agreement regarding um this concept of a wooden case .	closing
-B	1399.29	Mm-hmm .	closing
-C	1401.19	A customisable and Uh I don't think so , no , I think they could be rubber like they are now , so you have that tactile experience of So um are we done with this meeting ?	closing
-D	1402.83	Nice beautiful mahogany red wooden case .	closing
-B	1404.26	What about the buttons , would Would the buttons be wood too , or Mm-hmm .	closing
-A	1410.13	I don't think so .	closing
-A	1412.29	Yes .	closing
-A	1413.29	Yes .	closing
-A	1414.19	Don't looks nice uh .	closing
-A	1417.59	Yeah , so uh what we'll do is , uh , we will stick with the the simple design for time being until uh th Ed find outs about the how much it's cost to the extra , in case we go for the display .	closing
-A	1429.76	Okay .	closing
-A	1430.57	So maybe what you can do is uh , both of you , you can come up with the the prototype , okay , the model .	closing
-B	1438.03	Okay .	closing
-A	1438.88	Okay ?	closing
-B	1442.61	Sure .	closing
-A	1455.0	Yeah , I hope , if is it okay if uh they will come up with the prototype design , okay .	closing
-A	1460.5	Then they can show you how it looks like , and then we can uh submit to the I will submit to the management .	closing
-A	1466.85	Okay ?	closing
-A	1468.49	Then meantime you can come up with the price , how much it's cost as extra for uh the display .	closing
-C	1473.28	And a marketing strategy .	closing
-A	1473.76	An and the marketing strategy , that's very important , okay .	closing
-D	1474.73	And marketing strategy , thank you .	closing
-A	1478.0	Yes .	closing
-A	1480.12	How much you can how mu how much how much you can sell extra .	closing
-D	1480.26	Fired .	closing
-A	1484.32	Of course you'll make money too , so it it's not only pay-out , you make money too , your commission .	closing
-A	1492.64	Okay , so , any questions ?	closing
-B	1496.03	No .	closing
-A	1497.17	So , by next meeting , so , please come up with the the prototype , okay , then uh , then we can proceed from there .	closing
-B	1505.98	Okay .	closing
-A	1506.74	It's okay ?	closing
-B	1507.1	Mm-hmm .	closing
-A	1507.84	So thanks for all your uh efforts and coming for the meeting again , and see you soon then .	closing
-B	1514.37	Okay .	closing
-A	1514.82	Okay ?	closing
-A	1515.35	Thank you .	closing

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-B	30.61	I'm sorry to be late .	opening
-A	30.73	Welcome back .	opening
-A	32.96	Welcome back everybody .	opening
-C	36.86	Yeah .	opening
-C	38.19	Thanks .	opening
-A	41.51	So this meeting agenda will be the detailed design meeting .	opening
-A	48.0	And uh opening and uh P_M_s of the meet minutes , uh prototype presentation from uh Christine and uh Agnes .	opening
-B	60.46	Agnes , yes .	opening
-A	61.56	Yes and uh evaluation criteria .	opening
-A	65.09	The finance , it's uh from my side , from the management , and uh production evaluation .	opening
-A	71.55	Then uh closing .	opening
-A	72.88	So we have forty minutes to discuss and uh finalise and close the product and project and to move further , okay , so Okay , let's talk about uh maybe first uh for the prototype .	opening presentation of prototype(s)
-C	95.81	Mm , okay .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	96.69	So I handle to So shall I go to sorry .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	99.25	I've done a presentation , but it pretty much covers work that we've both done , so if I'm missing anything , Christine can just correct me .	presentation of prototype(s)
-B	105.78	Uh thank you , so you did a PowerPoint presentation , good for you .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	107.43	Yep .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	108.15	S Okay , let's go to A_M_I_ .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	113.89	It's not the biggest PowerPoint presentation in the world , but Three .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	118.53	So in two or three or Yeah .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	126.15	Um .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	128.67	No it's think it's the last one .	presentation of prototype(s)
-D	128.69	Probably .	presentation of prototype(s)
-D	130.71	Technical pa I would think .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	132.7	No , then this is the la yeah , that one , final design .	presentation of prototype(s)
-D	134.7	Ha .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	137.04	It is named appropriately , you just couldn't see the name .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	141.23	Um okay , can I have the mouse ?	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	142.79	Yes .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	145.22	Thanks .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	147.84	Alright , so from when we were discussing specifying the case in the last meeting , we decided that we wanted an ergonomic shape , the material that we chose was wood , and uh the colour would be customisable , 'cause you can stain the wood whatever colour .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	165.9	Um , so in terms of function , you have to be able to turn the T_V_ on and off , volume and channel control , menu control , voice recognition control , and we've incorporated the L_C_D_ screen on the flip panel as part of the design , if we figure out it's too expensive , well then you just take it off .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	182.51	Um , so to unveil our lovely product .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	190.07	This is our remote control , with the flip panel as you can see .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	195.54	So if you lift up the panel , you can see the lovely yellow L_C_D_ display .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	201.35	Um , this is actually hard to do .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	203.88	The yellow button you have is the on off button , so it's really big , hard to miss .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	208.39	You have the the red um triangles are the toggles for changing the volume .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	215.12	So up volume up , down volume down .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	218.3	The green are the channel changing .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	221.06	S And it's one of those very light , very touchable displays .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	224.43	And then you have the numeric pad in the dark blue at the bottom , and on the right-hand side you have the access to the menu on the T_V_ , and on the left-hand side you have the the the ability to turn off the voice recognition .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	242.41	So this is pretty much what we had on the white board the last time .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	247.02	Mm-hmm .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	249.77	So .	presentation of prototype(s)
-B	250.42	Um and uh I could Yeah the d We haven't um uh specified where the speaker or the microphone will be placed .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	251.8	Oh yes .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	253.29	Additional feature on the back is that you can have your own customised backing and I suppose you could do the same thing on the flip case on the front .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	261.85	So that you can really make this a highly highly customisable remote control .	presentation of prototype(s)
-B	273.04	That depends on the uh s design of the circuit board inside and uh what room is left um Yes , okay .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	279.99	Yeah .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	281.35	I think the microphone is on on the top , uh on the middle , the under the flip .	presentation of prototype(s)
-B	286.72	Uh-huh .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	288.04	So that will be the safe , so p any the chip it's not on the chip because you need to have microphone to Yes .	presentation of prototype(s)
-B	294.87	No , I mean it depends on the design of the circuit board .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	298.02	But it shouldn't be under the flip either , because you can have the remote control closed , but you still might want to activate it by voice .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	304.11	Uh it's it's Yeah , but uh uh my opinion I think it's better under the flip because whenever you want to uh the talk , okay , so then you can speak then you can close it .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	315.61	But if you put it on the on the flip , okay , then uh technical I don't think it's uh feasible , 'cause most of the time you speak then it will be recognised .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	324.72	But if you've already got the remote control in your hand you need to open the flip to use the voice , why use the voice , why not just use your hand ?	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	331.32	I mean the whole point of the voice is that if the remote control is sitting there and I'm too lazy to reach over and pick it up , I can just use my voice .	presentation of prototype(s)
-B	338.28	Maybe I've got my hand in the popcorn bowl and I'm holding my cup of Coca-Cola in the other hand .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	344.6	Yeah .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	344.71	And you don't wanna let go of either one .	presentation of prototype(s)
-D	345.49	I don't wanna say .	presentation of prototype(s)
-D	347.02	Louder .	presentation of prototype(s)
-D	349.9	Yeah .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	350.13	I mean it doesn't have to be on the flip , it can be on the side somewhere .	presentation of prototype(s)
-D	352.21	Can also be on the side .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	352.87	Yeah , the sides maybe is good .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	353.49	Yeah .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	354.25	So That's good idea .	presentation of prototype(s)
-B	354.97	Mm-hmm .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	355.22	So , I mean I can pass this around if anyone wants to Yeah .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	357.08	Yes .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	357.78	So it's maybe good idea .	presentation of prototype(s)
-B	359.32	Yeah , y better you pass it around with a napkin .	presentation of prototype(s)
-D	364.85	No , because y you can easily put a microphone on the side that would have no problem would haven't been not be damaged or anything , and it'd be accessible all the time to voice .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	367.78	Yes .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	370.33	Yeah .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	372.45	Yeah , exactly .	presentation of prototype(s)
-D	375.9	Yeah .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	376.54	So it's maybe good idea .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	377.58	S s Okay .	presentation of prototype(s)
-B	378.42	It's um It's um You need to work on the weight a little bit .	presentation of prototype(s)
-D	379.99	Compliments to the artist .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	385.74	Yes .	presentation of prototype(s)
-D	385.82	Uh .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	387.13	S I'm fine , I'm satisfi I'm satisfied .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	388.22	And maybe the shape of the buttons , the little egg shapes aren't the most economical , but Yeah .	presentation of prototype(s)
-B	392.94	We're glad you're satisfied .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	393.11	Of course it's it's it's looks more heo heavy , but I think when it's completely maybe it's a less weight .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	399.73	I mean this is plasticene .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	400.95	There's only so much you can do .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	401.06	Yes .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	402.32	We could have possibly made it a lot thinner as well .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	405.88	But And part of the thing is m a lot of people say that they don't like something that's too light , because they don't feel like they have enough control over it .	presentation of prototype(s)
-B	413.84	Mm-hmm .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	413.93	So I mean maybe this is excessively heavy , but I think it needs to have some weight , it needs to feel like you're still holding something .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	418.09	Yep .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	422.96	So that's pretty much it for our presentation actually .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	426.64	That's your uh prototype model ?	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	428.08	Yeah .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	428.67	Okay , that's good , thank you very much .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	431.24	So any comments or uh Okay .	presentation of prototype(s)
-D	433.93	Well , the prototype is is very well within the design and ideas that we've we've talked about on the previous meetings .	presentation of prototype(s)
-D	441.0	Now it goes into this next phase as the financial uh marketing uh Well we haven't come to mine yet , so we're gonna have a bit of difference of opinion , yes .	costing presentation of prototype(s)
-A	444.84	Yes , that uh So I'll come back to the So evaluation criteria , I think uh that will be good , so then let's come to the finance uh , I have some uh calculations which I made uh as for uh the budget .	costing presentation of prototype(s)
-A	476.39	So here you can uh look like uh the energy and uh dynamo and uh kinetic and solar cells .	costing
-A	484.79	Uh it's optional , somewhat optional and Ed wants the chip on print , that's what uh we were talking about that .	costing
-A	492.57	So then we have sample sensor and sample speaker , then uh we have the wood material , then special colour and push button .	costing
-A	502.87	So it's uh actually , our budget was uh twelve point five Euro , but uh it's coming to nine point nine five Euro , so we are under uh below the budget , okay , so still we are saving some money .	costing
-A	516.31	I think it's a good figure .	costing
-B	517.81	Yes , great I I'm surprised .	costing
-B	521.1	Congratulations .	costing
-A	521.99	Than thank you .	costing
-B	524.61	Oh , okay .	costing
-B	525.14	It's gonna cost a long way to c you know , cost a lot of money to market it , is it ?	costing
-A	530.37	So maybe it's for some money we can utilise for our uh marketing , for the sales , okay , and uh It's not .	costing
-D	539.85	Well , it just depends on if we're gonna add a o on this pr provisionary cost analysis , we do not have a L_C_ display .	costing
-D	552.05	L_C_ display is gonna be very expensive , it's gonna be It's not it doesn't say .	costing
-C	554.13	No we do , but it's not filled in .	costing
-C	556.01	It's number thirty .	costing
-B	556.45	Thirty .	costing
-D	556.73	We don't have the price up there , okay , so if we add approximately two to three Euro per remote , now we're up around about twelve , twelve and a half as to what uh the company had initially uh requested .	costing
-A	557.01	Yeah .	costing
-C	557.38	Oh , yeah , yeah , you're right , sorry , yes .	costing
-A	558.06	Yeah .	costing
-A	558.46	Yeah .	costing
-B	558.87	Yeah .	costing
-A	559.15	Yeah .	costing
-B	574.4	So that means we can put the uh the L_C_D_ in , yeah .	costing
-D	574.56	Um Display in .	costing
-D	578.53	But as far as production um I'm putting up a question because we're talking about profit also , and in mine you'll see uh the problem with uh our survey , the p the possibility that how many units can be sold , what percentage of the market , etcetera etcetera because that has to be taken in into consideration .	costing
-D	597.71	Uh this is just production cost , it is not uh advertising cost , it's not transportation cost uh And that will inflate quite a bit the cost of the uh the cost of the unit for the company .	costing
-A	605.67	Yes , so still uh we have twelve point five Euro .	costing
-A	609.4	Yes .	costing
-A	611.73	Yeah , but Yes .	costing
-A	614.0	Yep .	costing
-C	614.14	Um-hmm .	costing
-D	614.67	So to come up with what the company wants is a fifty million Pound profit , we're gonna have to go a long ways .	costing
-A	621.0	Yes .	costing
-A	621.5	This we are talking about one unit , okay , so when it go into the quantity , okay , and the cost will come down .	costing
-D	623.59	Yes .	costing
-D	629.9	Slightly .	costing
-B	630.22	Although customisation , because this is being done , you know , the on on-order basis , it might be uh the the quantity won't m won't uh the circuit board will b you're right , would be in producing quantity , but the cost of the case would uh be fixed at the Uh you got some pretty cheap labour that can do this case for one Euro .	costing
-A	636.08	Yeah .	costing
-D	636.45	It's gonna be very hard to reduce .	costing
-C	637.98	Yes .	costing
-D	652.31	That's not bad .	costing
-B	653.15	That's really that's the cost of the material and lab wow , that's really outstanding .	costing
-A	654.57	Yep .	costing
-A	655.73	Yeah .	costing
-A	660.19	But anyhow , still we are under control , okay , so what uh I will do is I will try to negotiate with the vendors , okay , to get uh the production cost less , okay , so then we can save some money , okay , to put into th our marketing or uh you know the promotions , whatever , okay , so that uh I will look after .	costing
-A	679.72	I will speak to the management and how to get uh you know some more uh cost down .	costing
-D	690.04	If we can go to to my display .	marketing expert presentation
-D	693.58	And we'll come back to yours just to give everybody an idea of the market .	marketing expert presentation
-A	695.13	Yes .	marketing expert presentation
-D	701.51	So now I'm gonna scare everybody out of this project .	marketing expert presentation
-D	708.44	If I'm still here .	marketing expert presentation
-A	710.92	You're in four ?	marketing expert presentation
-D	711.86	Yep .	marketing expert presentation
-D	713.49	The four gives me it's gotta be uh TrendWatch .	marketing expert presentation
-A	715.83	TrendWatch .	marketing expert presentation
-B	717.46	Is this the same one you did before ?	marketing expert presentation
-D	719.92	No .	marketing expert presentation
-B	721.09	Okay .	marketing expert presentation
-D	722.59	It shouldn't be if it's not it's not the right one .	marketing expert presentation
-C	723.21	That's no , I think it's the same one .	marketing expert presentation
-D	725.02	No , no we g no , that's the same one .	marketing expert presentation
-D	726.76	You have to go back and find another one .	marketing expert presentation
-D	733.83	Whatever name it popped up under .	marketing expert presentation
-D	736.95	Uh functional , try functional , it might not be it either , but we'll see .	marketing expert presentation
-C	737.08	Functional .	marketing expert presentation
-C	742.47	It looks like it , there's S Yeah .	marketing expert presentation
-D	744.55	Yep , that's it .	marketing expert presentation
-D	745.38	So we'll go screen by screen .	marketing expert presentation
-A	746.49	Okay .	marketing expert presentation
-D	747.33	Although since uh we need to have some type of idea on a market uh we had independent study that says it this this market has an availability to absorb eight mi eight million units per year .	marketing expert presentation
-D	758.01	Okay ?	marketing expert presentation
-D	759.19	Our internal company evaluation puts it between eight to nine million which is approximately the same as the independent study .	marketing expert presentation
-A	765.48	Yep .	marketing expert presentation
-D	766.11	So if we continue , we'll look at the findings .	marketing expert presentation
-D	769.76	Next screen .	marketing expert presentation
-D	773.69	Which means that uh if we have a target of two million would the company has to take twenty five percent of the market in the first year , which is actually a tremendous amount .	marketing expert presentation
-A	779.68	Mm-hmm .	marketing expert presentation
-B	781.46	Yeah , no kidding .	marketing expert presentation
-D	783.0	No kidding , yeah .	marketing expert presentation
-B	784.11	Mayb maybe they already expected something .	marketing expert presentation
-D	785.64	So , if we put an inflated price of fifty Euro at a production cost that cannot exceed twenty-five Euro , okay , we're already in that that price , okay , with transport , promotion , labour , because we hav gi included the promotion in the cost , transport for the material to the stores or whatever how however we're gonna break this down between our our retailers .	marketing expert presentation
-A	794.95	Yes .	marketing expert presentation
-C	801.46	Um-hmm .	marketing expert presentation
-D	808.96	Twenty-five percent of the market to get to two million units .	marketing expert presentation
-D	812.22	At two million units , we have to have a profit of twenty-five Euro per unit to get to the fifty million unit Eu Euro profit .	marketing expert presentation
-A	817.0	Mm-hmm .	marketing expert presentation
-A	818.65	Yep .	marketing expert presentation
-D	819.1	Okay ?	marketing expert presentation
-D	821.08	So , obviously we w w I just did a run down the evaluation of the form , the fan uh the fancy stylishness of the of the unit , the ease of use , speech recognition , cost , we've gone through these .	marketing expert presentation
-D	832.58	Now , the company must evaluate the feasibility of being able to take enough of the market to justify in production .	marketing expert presentation
-D	840.59	Or we project this over two years , but being that the market changes very very quickly , maybe there's no more interest in buying this thing in eighteen months from now .	marketing expert presentation
-A	845.45	Yes .	marketing expert presentation
-A	848.33	Yep .	marketing expert presentation
-D	848.95	So , now we have to come up with a decision .	marketing expert presentation
-A	849.42	Of course .	marketing expert presentation
-C	849.59	Mm .	marketing expert presentation
-D	851.38	Can the company sell two million units ?	marketing expert presentation
-A	853.4	Yep .	marketing expert presentation
-D	853.68	Can it sell it for fifty Euros ?	marketing expert presentation
-B	855.18	Could could I go to findings ?	product promotion/distribution
-A	855.81	Yep .	product promotion/distribution
-B	858.64	Uh uh um I would uh like to explore the possibility of using um alternative um delivery and sales channel which would be um to use the internet for promotion and ordering and then to drop-ship the p product to the customer's residence .	product promotion/distribution
-A	872.86	Yes .	product promotion/distribution
-C	872.86	I was thinking the same thing , yeah .	product promotion/distribution
-C	878.72	Directly .	product promotion/distribution
-B	880.12	That way you have no storage , you have no um you do have transportation , still have the labour cost , but you don't have the transport to the uh point of sale .	product promotion/distribution
-C	884.57	Um-hmm .	product promotion/distribution
-A	890.85	Yes .	product promotion/distribution
-C	891.14	Yeah .	product promotion/distribution
-B	891.16	The point of sale is online .	product promotion/distribution
-A	892.39	To the agents .	product promotion/distribution
-C	894.08	Yeah .	product promotion/distribution
-C	894.5	You can do a shipping centre somewhere , or strategically place shipping centres to minimise distance costs .	product promotion/distribution
-B	898.53	Right , like Amazon .	product promotion/distribution
-B	900.18	In fact , we should sell through Amazon , don't you think ?	product promotion/distribution
-A	900.73	Yes .	product promotion/distribution
-A	902.19	Or eBay , or Yes .	product promotion/distribution
-B	903.08	Or eBay , yeah .	product promotion/distribution
-C	904.18	Yeah .	product promotion/distribution
-B	906.38	There's an idea .	product promotion/distribution
-B	907.13	Going with um Ah , we we're do you know , selling a unique product uh .	product promotion/distribution
-A	907.28	Yeah , that's a good idea .	product promotion/distribution
-A	909.54	To impro more profit and uh Yeah , yes .	product promotion/distribution
-D	910.53	S Upscale technology .	product promotion/distribution
-D	914.46	Well .	product promotion/distribution
-C	918.6	That actually makes more sense if we're gonna make it so highly customisable , 'cause on the web people can look at the different options they have , see maybe what other people have done , what the range of possibility as , whereas if you're in a store , you can't unless you're a highly imaginative person , you may not really know what it is you want , whereas on the web , if you have a bunch of pictures , it can sort of trigger ideas and Yeah .	product promotion/distribution
-B	927.6	Mm .	product promotion/distribution
-D	928.5	There are several companies that have gone that way .	product promotion/distribution
-B	931.1	Mm .	product promotion/distribution
-B	938.3	Mm-hmm .	product promotion/distribution
-B	940.81	And you can even have an a movie that you can rotate the object and look at the di the only thing that you're missing really is the weight .	product promotion/distribution
-C	948.25	The weight and feel .	product promotion/distribution
-D	948.66	Weight , the feel of the product , but There are several that have gone through with the watches , too .	product promotion/distribution
-B	950.11	Mm .	product promotion/distribution
-C	950.24	Yeah .	product promotion/distribution
-B	951.59	We're getting used to that .	product promotion/distribution
-B	952.58	It's not quite like trying on a shoe , but people are getting used to buying things online that they can't touch before buying .	product promotion/distribution
-C	956.77	Yeah .	product promotion/distribution
-C	960.04	Yeah .	product promotion/distribution
-D	962.87	You can customise a watch , you can see how it is at the f at the end of the production , you can change it uh There's a lot of online that's that is doing this now .	product promotion/distribution
-C	965.48	Mm-hmm .	product promotion/distribution
-B	966.15	Uh-huh .	product promotion/distribution
-C	970.19	Yes .	product promotion/distribution
-D	971.23	And when you're rotating , you'll look behind and look this way uh it's possible to do with this , maybe there's a possibility of selling more than two million units in one year , which could you know , feasibili feasibility uh lower the price of the unit .	product promotion/distribution
-A	979.29	Yeah .	product promotion/distribution
-C	985.3	Mm-hmm .	product promotion/distribution
-A	987.8	We can .	product promotion/distribution
-B	988.58	Great .	product promotion/distribution
-A	989.94	I don't think that's uh not possible , it's uh okay then , l uh let's wait for the production , okay , then uh you can evaluate the product , so how it looks like technically and uh how it look like uh the real .	product promotion/distribution
-C	1002.72	What turnaround time do we have ?	agenda/equipment issues
-A	1004.81	T Oh but Yes it's it's very quick , of course .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	1006.13	'Cause I mean production evaluation can be very very quick or very very long .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	1011.75	It will uh come back in two weeks , okay , it will be ready in two weeks .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	1016.25	Works for me .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	1016.81	For evaluation , okay .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	1019.96	Prototypes , you mean .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	1021.51	Yes , the prototype uh prototype product evaluation .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	1021.85	In um We probably should do some market tests uh once we have the prototypes and do some orders and things like that and test-market it .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	1026.07	Yes .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	1027.49	Well , obviously .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	1027.88	Yes .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	1028.66	Yeah .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	1029.53	Yes .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	1031.58	Mm that'd have to be thrown out on the market for people to get an idea , to see get get their I think we pretty much covered everything .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	1031.79	Yeah .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	1034.39	So you can take a minimum two weeks to a maximum four weeks .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	1035.09	Mm-hmm .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	1037.25	Think minimum two weeks if we're gonna develop prototypes and then try to take them to different places and see how people use it's not a trivial task .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	1038.09	Yeah .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	1046.44	Yeah , because we we are not going to do it in uh our factory , okay , so we can give it a product evalua Yes , yes .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	1049.92	No no .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	1050.79	We definitely shouldn't do it in our factory .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	1054.21	So we'll do it in the other place , and I don't think it's take more than four weeks time .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	1061.53	Or uh Okay , so then the real production we will start once we product evaluation , okay , then uh it's approve from uh the technical team and uh your team , okay , uh from the management , then we can launch in the market .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	1081.75	Hm ?	agenda/equipment issues
-B	1082.2	Any outstanding ?	agenda/equipment issues
-A	1083.73	S Any any other uh questions or uh comments to be discuss ?	agenda/equipment issues
-B	1091.53	No , I'm go ahead .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	1091.58	What ab Well I was just wondering about if we're gonna do a product evaluation then what about time for redesign if the users come back and tell us no this is bad , this is bad , we want this done differently .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	1094.08	Okay , so then uh Okay uh , let's take like this .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	1094.96	Did you have something ?	agenda/equipment issues
-A	1111.45	Let's proceed with this model , okay , for the for the marketing direction , okay .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	1116.2	So no more changes will be made , okay , in this the basic design .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	1122.55	Okay ?	agenda/equipment issues
-A	1123.32	So we will introduce m this model and uh let's introduce in the market and let's take the feedback from the customers , then we can uh go for the second generation .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	1132.24	Second generation .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	1134.89	Okay .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	1135.78	There's no end , there's not limit .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	1137.72	The problem is there might not be a second generation if the first generation flops for some silly reason that we haven't thought of .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	1138.32	Every every custom Okay .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	1140.52	Well , then it may not be .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	1143.06	Well , every customer , okay , they have their own ideas , they have their own test , okay , so there's no end , there's no limit .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	1144.27	Like people don't like wood .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	1152.82	No , but there's a difference between releasing a product that has been minimally tested and fine-tuned to suit a general range of requirements versus releasing a product that we think will work but we don't really have anything to back it up .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	1164.72	very specific .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	1165.88	Yeah , so that's the reason you are here for uh the design , okay , I hope you made a good design .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	1169.62	Yes , but I'm not everybody .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	1172.0	I mean the whole point of user evaluation is to see what real people need .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	1176.21	We have our own motivations in mind , we have our own ideas in mind , but that doesn't mean that that's what's gonna sell .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	1181.79	Yeah , but uh see , we ought to take a few considerations , okay , one is the price consideration , one is future consideration , okay , like uh you can eat uh you can all eat more chi I can eat more chilli , okay , so i it's a depends on the individual taste , you know , so we have we have to balance somewhere .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	1198.93	Yeah , of course .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	1199.57	I'm just trying to point out that I think that your evaluation and redesign turnaround time is too short well you have no redesign not you personally , but in the project we have no redesign time and Yeah .	agenda/equipment issues product promotion/distribution
-A	1209.68	Yes .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	1210.32	Our project doesn't um Ed , d do you know what season of the year or time of the year is the most important for T_V_ remote control sales ?	agenda/equipment issues product promotion/distribution
-A	1211.01	Yeah .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	1221.0	Hmm .	product promotion/distribution
-B	1222.58	Would it be the Christmas season by any chance ?	product promotion/distribution
-A	1224.69	The sports time .	product promotion/distribution
-B	1225.68	Sports season .	product promotion/distribution
-D	1228.03	Right before the Eur the World Cup .	product promotion/distribution
-B	1228.46	Which sport season ?	product promotion/distribution
-A	1230.27	Football .	product promotion/distribution
-D	1230.56	World soccer .	product promotion/distribution
-B	1230.84	So so maybe what So I think what we need to do is perhaps to synchronise the final the the launch of a user-tested device with some special event .	product promotion/distribution
-D	1232.02	World Cup soccer , they need those things that they have their hands g occupied and they need to be able to talk to the con remote control .	product promotion/distribution
-A	1233.7	Football .	product promotion/distribution
-A	1244.74	Yes .	product promotion/distribution
-A	1247.31	Yes .	product promotion/distribution
-C	1247.43	Yeah , that's a good idea .	product promotion/distribution
-B	1247.78	And and then um so that gives us a little more time perhaps then we anticipated , because I don't know when the World Cup is , but I'm sure there's gonna be one .	product promotion/distribution
-D	1257.33	Or any major sports .	product promotion/distribution
-B	1259.29	Or another m major sports event .	product promotion/distribution
-B	1261.31	Probably not the um the football games coming up the end of January .	product promotion/distribution
-B	1265.33	I think that might be a little too aggressive um , but , so , I'm just ig uh pointing out a uh a strategy to uh do some additional user testing pri and then to launch um at a a major sports event or uh perhaps to uh also And to work with motion pictures .	product promotion/distribution
-A	1267.12	Yes .	product promotion/distribution
-C	1267.3	Yeah .	product promotion/distribution
-A	1277.09	Research .	product promotion/distribution
-C	1277.25	Mm-hmm .	product promotion/distribution
-A	1282.2	Yep .	product promotion/distribution
-C	1284.3	That's actually good place to advertise it too .	product promotion/distribution
-C	1287.43	Yeah .	product promotion/distribution
-B	1288.24	There might be some motion pictures that are coming out um that are coming out on D_V_D_ that uh they need to have a m special remote control to work with it , so we could maybe work out a campaign with uh with Sony Pictures for example .	product promotion/distribution
-A	1303.16	Yes .	product promotion/distribution
-B	1303.97	Maybe some management has got uh relationships there we can leverage .	product promotion/distribution
-C	1304.18	Mm-hmm .	product promotion/distribution
-A	1308.23	Yes , the that of course uh I will convince the management to do that , okay .	product promotion/distribution
-B	1314.4	That's great .	product promotion/distribution
-C	1316.81	It's just something to to keep in mind , 'cause it's really really important .	product promotion/distribution
-A	1319.68	Sure , sure , yes .	product promotion/distribution
-C	1319.96	A lot of products have gone out there without being properly user-tested and completely flopped , when in fact it gets re-released a few years down the line with proper testing and it takes off like crazy .	product promotion/distribution
-B	1330.84	Disposable diapers is an example of that in fact .	product promotion/distribution
-C	1333.62	Really ?	product promotion/distribution
-B	1334.16	Yes , it is one of the first consumer products that was launched about thirty years that was a disposable consumer product , and uh people the market hadn't really gotten on to the concept that you could use something and then throw it away , 'cause it wasn't uh but then when they re-launched them thirty years later , they were virtually the same design , but people had gotten the throw-away , you know , paper cups and napki y all kinds of things that they hadn't um so , you're right , timing is very important , but I think we've got a good product .	product promotion/distribution
-C	1334.7	That I didn't know .	product promotion/distribution
-C	1349.82	Mm-hmm .	product promotion/distribution
-C	1363.27	Yeah .	product promotion/distribution
-A	1365.43	Yeah .	product promotion/distribution
-C	1367.54	Yeah .	product promotion/distribution
-A	1367.66	That's the reason Ed is here .	product promotion/distribution
-A	1369.01	I think he can promote the the brand value and the product value .	product promotion/distribution
-B	1369.09	That's right .	product promotion/distribution
-B	1373.23	It's gonna be very important to the company .	product promotion/distribution
-A	1374.33	Yes .	product promotion/distribution
-A	1377.59	We are behind the scene and he is the front screen , so .	product promotion/distribution
-C	1380.53	Yep .	product promotion/distribution
-D	1381.69	Yeah , I'm the one who takes the heat .	product promotion/distribution
-A	1382.15	He's on the big screen .	product promotion/distribution
-C	1383.53	Exactly .	product promotion/distribution
-B	1385.16	Good luck , Ed .	product promotion/distribution
-D	1385.76	If it's a flop , it's the marketer .	product promotion/distribution
-B	1389.2	You look very relaxed , considering h you know , the uh the weight on your shoulders , yeah .	product promotion/distribution
-D	1390.49	Yes .	product promotion/distribution
-D	1392.07	Yes .	product promotion/distribution
-D	1392.87	Stress .	product promotion/distribution
-A	1396.42	Okay , so then uh let's come to the closing and uh are the costs within the budget and uh is the product evaluated , okay , so that will uh come soon .	closing
-D	1399.85	Celebration .	closing
-A	1407.98	Okay for uh but our time being , so thanks for all your efforts and great work and uh great design and uh let's leave it to the Ed for later for once production is over and the meantime let's celebrate .	closing
-A	1422.47	So let's meet up uh this evening to hang up for some party .	closing
-B	1429.08	Sounds good .	closing
-A	1429.92	'S good .	closing
-C	1430.02	Okay .	closing
-B	1430.13	Thank you .	closing
-D	1430.48	Very good .	closing
-B	1430.86	Nice working with you .	closing
-D	1431.99	Thank you very much .	closing
-A	1433.0	Thank you .	closing
-C	1434.11	Thanks .	closing
-A	1434.12	Thank you again for all .	closing
-A	1436.39	And see you in the evening for drinks .	closing
-D	1436.47	Bye-bye .	closing
-D	1437.42	Yep , okay , see you later on .	closing
-C	1438.38	Bye .	closing

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-B	6.2	Two .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	11.63	Hello .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	12.32	Good morning .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	12.47	Hello .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	12.97	Hello .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	16.36	Ah .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	18.13	You have to put it exactly on the on the yeah .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	19.97	Plate ?	agenda/equipment issues
-C	21.2	Okay .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	22.84	Good morning .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	23.97	Good morning .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	32.52	I took your mouse .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	32.7	Should I bring my uh pen too ?	agenda/equipment issues
-A	33.88	Yeah just yeah , no , that's for me , I just have to make some notes .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	35.12	Or Okay .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	37.55	I got my uh mouse .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	40.16	Uh I also forgot my mouse , but I don't need my mouse , I think .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	40.96	Mouse .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	44.8	I do .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	45.75	yeah .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	48.22	Come on .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	49.66	There we are .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	58.63	My laptop is crashing .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	62.77	Damn computers .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	64.29	Cr Help help help .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	77.7	Let's just check one more time .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	81.29	Mm .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	82.8	Can you hear me ?	agenda/equipment issues
-D	83.57	Hello ?	agenda/equipment issues
-D	84.1	Test .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	84.23	Uh actually my laptop doesn't work , switch it on again .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	85.61	I dunno .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	91.64	Check .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	92.12	Oh no .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	92.47	Okay .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	93.62	I think it works .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	97.01	Test test .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	98.08	Yes , it's working .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	106.59	So you all read what we are going to do or not ?	agenda/equipment issues
-D	108.99	Mm-hmm .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	109.52	Okay .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	109.75	Yeah .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	109.83	We're gonna make a remote control .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	111.99	Yeah , that's right .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	112.35	I think my laptop is a bit etchy .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	119.85	I just made a a simple uh presentation .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	127.27	So you put some things in it .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	131.41	Okay .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	140.74	How does this work ?	agenda/equipment issues
-A	141.52	I dunno .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	143.79	One uh most to the right .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	144.73	Uh p Okay .	agenda/equipment issues drawing exercise
-B	145.52	Yes that one .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	146.56	This one ?	agenda/equipment issues
-B	147.32	Yes .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	147.36	Press F_ eleven .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	148.87	Ah cool .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	149.88	Okay .	opening
-A	150.88	So that's my name , .	opening
-A	152.6	Uh we're going to make uh a remote control , you already know that .	opening
-A	156.77	Just have a look , are we going to uh this agenda of our meeting .	opening
-A	160.54	You know , this is about twenty five minutes , this meeting .	opening
-A	165.37	So um the thing we have to know is you already know what we're going to do , you also read what this the things or , not yet , okay .	project specs and roles of participants
-B	172.44	Yes .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	173.82	So um , yeah , it has to be original , trendy , user-friendly that's what we're going to design .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	179.89	Uh first we have uh uh three steps of uh making the the remote control .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	185.02	Fir the first thing is th the functional design , that's very important .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	189.84	We have to look what the needs are , the effects of the functional design , and and how the mm the the remote control works , so that's where we're going to look in the functional design , it's for the f next meeting .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	202.24	The the second thing is the conceptual design , that's what it that's uh the spe the specifications of the components and the properties and the specifications of the user interface .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	213.91	And we have to look what uh the market is doing for what kind of uh remote controls are in the market .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	221.04	And the third thing is uh the detailed design um and that's exa yeah , you know what it is , it's exactly how it looks and whatever .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	231.72	Okay so uh no , this is a these are two smartboards , with the uh f uh s an introduction of that one .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	240.48	And you already saw you know all that that you here can put uh things in the the red project uh map .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	246.18	Folder , yes .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	247.0	Folder , okay .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	252.97	So no okay have a look at that one .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	257.02	Okay .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	258.98	So uh what we're going to do first is um so you can read .	drawing exercise
-A	267.57	You have to uh draw uh a favourite animal on the whiteboard and um and say why it's your favourite animal .	drawing exercise
-A	276.95	So and you have this is just to try it out and we have to uh use a different pen colours and different thickness of the pen .	drawing exercise
-A	286.48	So okay , so first have to show you , maybe you can come here to have a look how it works .	drawing exercise
-A	294.32	Yes ?	drawing exercise
-D	294.46	Ah I can see it now .	drawing exercise
-B	294.74	Yeah .	drawing exercise
-A	295.15	Okay .	drawing exercise
-A	296.53	This a new page , it's okay .	drawing exercise
-A	299.72	Use pen format .	drawing exercise
-A	304.79	and a different colour can use here no I just take the pink .	drawing exercise
-A	311.25	You take oh there's no pink , okay , oh just purple , okay .	drawing exercise
-B	314.41	Purple .	drawing exercise
-A	316.8	No blue .	drawing exercise
-A	317.8	And uh line width ten .	drawing exercise
-A	320.89	Okay uh just take what I'm going to draw is an elephant .	drawing exercise
-A	327.7	Just draw slowly , because otherwise it won't work .	drawing exercise
-A	336.38	It's a very nice elephant , you can see .	drawing exercise
-A	344.16	I dunno what it looks but it doesn't matter .	drawing exercise
-B	348.6	Looks very nice .	drawing exercise
-A	350.39	I just h Something like this ?	drawing exercise
-A	353.36	Oh no Yeah , okay .	drawing exercise
-D	355.54	It look like a dinosaurs .	drawing exercise
-A	357.07	Because I like uh okay .	drawing exercise
-B	359.68	A pink elephant .	drawing exercise
-A	368.77	Just takes so long , okay .	drawing exercise
-A	370.21	Whatever , just .	drawing exercise
-A	372.82	You erased this one .	drawing exercise
-A	376.31	It's a bit slow you can see , this is a bit annoying .	drawing exercise
-D	380.26	Okay .	drawing exercise
-A	384.72	Okay , so just for you guys just one of you can draw a painting if you want .	drawing exercise
-D	391.54	Let me try one .	drawing exercise
-A	391.69	Just don't um yeah , just u use it like that , yeah .	drawing exercise
-A	395.43	That's okay .	drawing exercise
-D	396.43	Okay .	drawing exercise
-D	403.47	Mm .	drawing exercise
-D	405.69	Okay and then uh what's the colour ?	drawing exercise
-D	407.74	How do I do Ah .	drawing exercise
-A	408.25	It's in format .	drawing exercise
-A	410.91	Yeah .	drawing exercise
-D	416.42	I'll take this one .	drawing exercise
-D	424.9	Uh there has to be water , but Yeah yeah , but it's an animal it's an animal that lives in the water .	drawing exercise
-A	425.88	Just No it has to be an animal , so if that's it's it should be a shna snake or something .	drawing exercise
-A	432.02	Okay .	drawing exercise
-A	432.4	Okay okay .	drawing exercise
-B	433.5	The water is important .	drawing exercise
-A	433.6	Okay .	drawing exercise
-D	433.99	So I first uh draw the water .	drawing exercise
-D	437.65	Uh .	drawing exercise
-D	439.5	Okay , and now I make the animal .	drawing exercise
-D	455.94	It's a fish .	drawing exercise
-A	457.27	Okay , cool .	drawing exercise
-C	457.57	Wow .	drawing exercise
-D	464.06	Mm-hmm .	drawing exercise
-D	472.42	So .	drawing exercise
-D	478.21	Um This is a worm .	drawing exercise
-A	489.14	Hmm yeah , that's nice .	drawing exercise
-C	490.63	Wow .	drawing exercise
-D	491.39	Okay , who next ?	drawing exercise
-A	492.71	Uh do you have to write down why uh that doesn't matter , just it's to get used to the whiteboard , but it's okay .	drawing exercise
-D	492.78	Uh Okay .	drawing exercise
-A	498.8	Just make a new blank new blank page .	drawing exercise
-B	517.92	Yeah .	drawing exercise
-D	521.12	Well Paul ?	drawing exercise
-B	522.02	Yeah .	drawing exercise
-B	524.16	Like this ?	drawing exercise
-A	525.4	Yeah , not too far to the to the t pen top .	drawing exercise
-B	527.84	Okay .	drawing exercise
-B	528.96	Um let's make it um a dog .	drawing exercise
-B	556.8	Ooh .	drawing exercise
-A	568.78	Maybe you should hold your pen a bit more to the back , so that no , to the yeah .	drawing exercise
-D	574.74	I think it's a pig .	drawing exercise
-B	574.8	Ah okay .	drawing exercise
-B	576.79	A pig ?	drawing exercise
-B	578.34	I can make a dog .	drawing exercise
-A	578.36	No , it's a dog .	drawing exercise
-D	578.47	Or a dog .	drawing exercise
-D	582.08	A sheep ?	drawing exercise
-B	583.44	Um 'Kay , I make a cat of it .	drawing exercise
-A	586.79	Uh we d only have twenty five minutes , so .	drawing exercise
-C	590.22	Take it easy .	drawing exercise
-C	596.43	I I was gonna make a cat too .	drawing exercise
-A	599.52	Use your fantasy .	drawing exercise
-B	601.98	Oh , not too quick .	drawing exercise
-A	604.97	Just hold it more more to the back then you don't have okay .	drawing exercise
-B	607.24	No I have it .	drawing exercise
-B	609.66	I just draw too quick I think .	drawing exercise
-B	612.62	Okay , that's it .	drawing exercise
-B	615.65	More .	drawing exercise
-A	616.71	No , that's okay , thank you .	drawing exercise
-B	619.7	It's just to get used to it .	drawing exercise
-C	621.92	Okay .	drawing exercise
-A	640.24	I thought these pens would be just um uh you write it down and you download it to Word , you already did it or no ?	drawing exercise
-D	646.95	No .	drawing exercise
-A	647.08	No , not yet , okay .	drawing exercise
-B	647.72	Yeah , that's right , it but you actually got to write on the paper .	drawing exercise
-A	648.79	But it's just Sorry ?	drawing exercise
-B	652.04	You really got to write on that paper .	drawing exercise
-A	653.2	Yeah , I know , but I d I I thought it would be just in in in uh typed words in Word , so that's not just it's just a picture .	drawing exercise
-D	653.68	Yeah yeah , it's a real pen .	drawing exercise
-B	657.79	Yeah , but it's just a picture .	drawing exercise
-D	661.11	Oh .	drawing exercise
-A	661.54	So it's not that cool as I th thought it would be .	drawing exercise
-B	662.54	You really No .	drawing exercise
-D	662.63	Y you can you can't edit in the edit it in Word .	drawing exercise
-A	666.52	No .	drawing exercise
-D	668.11	Oh , okay .	drawing exercise
-B	685.42	It's a donkey .	drawing exercise
-A	694.07	I don't know , what time did we start this meeting , I'm not sure .	drawing exercise
-B	697.05	Uh I think it was uh Yeah .	drawing exercise
-A	698.8	Half past .	drawing exercise
-D	699.9	Half past ten .	drawing exercise
-A	701.65	Okay .	drawing exercise
-D	709.8	Brilliant .	drawing exercise
-A	710.7	Okay , perfect .	drawing exercise
-C	710.94	Nice , eh ?	drawing exercise
-D	711.59	Yep .	drawing exercise
-A	714.66	Yeah , thank you .	drawing exercise
-A	715.25	Now we just have to save everything , so .	drawing exercise
-A	732.18	Oh this is definitely the best one .	drawing exercise
-C	734.04	Uh .	drawing exercise
-A	735.36	Okay , so uh what we know is that we have to sell this uh remote control for about twenty five Euros .	project specs and roles of participants
-C	746.53	Excuse me .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	746.77	Okay , that's .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	747.92	And uh we have to make a profit of fifty million Euros , so we have to uh use a big market in Europe .	project specs and roles of participants
-B	754.04	Piece of cake .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	754.37	The production cost are about half the price of selling price , sorry .	project specs and roles of participants
-B	757.01	Uh easy .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	758.13	So can someone make a a calculation about how many we have to sell of these to make fifty million , I dunno .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	766.61	Uh so we're gonna have a little discussion about um what experience are with a remote control the and everything , so just have a look how it we think about remote controls .	discussion
-D	779.04	Yeah , my first question was does it have to be a a universal remote control ?	look and usability
-A	784.51	Oh yeah , that's a good question .	look and usability
-D	786.41	Because we sell it uh uh uh lonely from the t and not with the television , we sell it uh apart .	look and usability
-A	795.89	I think it's I'm not I'm not sure , it's not mm I think I don't think you can buy a a a universal uh remote control for twenty five Euros , so not sure , but Okay , so we we just say we just say that's universal remote control .	look and usability
-D	796.88	So I Because Yeah , I know uh you can buy a re a universal uh control for uh only twenty uh Euros Yeah , I think .	look and usability
-C	798.37	Yeah , it probably would be universal .	look and usability
-B	800.24	Universal .	look and usability
-B	801.74	And only television ?	look and usability
-B	803.85	Or more devices ?	look and usability
-C	811.88	Hmm , maybe , I don't know .	look and usability
-B	819.31	Ah okay .	look and usability
-A	819.57	Okay , perfect .	look and usability
-C	821.38	And uh also for the V_C_R_ and uh D_V_D_ player and okay .	look and usability
-A	826.34	Yeah , everything just so a lot of buttons on the remote control .	look and usability
-C	831.48	Yeah , probably .	look and usability
-B	832.14	Not just a T_V_ .	look and usability
-A	833.57	No , just everything .	look and usability
-B	834.67	Okay .	look and usability
-D	835.78	Okay .	look and usability
-A	836.47	so yeah , what what what's a remote control , it's just a black thing with some buttons on it , it's not nothing very special , but um yeah , that's right .	look and usability
-B	844.0	Well we can try to make it special .	look and usability
-A	847.11	So do you have any ideas how it has to look for for usability or user Hmm yeah .	look and usability
-B	850.99	Well Yeah .	look and usability
-D	851.04	Well I th I thought about um making it the same uh style as the television , we don't have uh the same television uh all the time , so uh that's no matter .	look and usability
-D	862.61	Um if we uh control the V_C_R_ and the D_V_D_ player player with it uh it has to be clear , because uh kids and uh elderly are gonna use it , so uh it's not only for the uh technical persons .	look and usability
-D	886.49	Um I think it must be a very good control , so you can uh uh uh act uh use it from uh everywhere in your room , the the infrared uh thing must be from very good quality .	look and usability
-A	904.21	That's right .	look and usability
-A	905.19	Should be a good point .	look and usability
-C	906.74	Okay .	look and usability
-B	907.24	Nothing N It shouldn't be too big , but I don't think we can make it too small , 'cause it has to have a lot of functions , so .	look and usability
-C	909.92	And how big should it be ?	look and usability
-D	910.58	No .	look and usability
-D	912.35	Yeah .	look and usability
-D	913.21	I dunno um Yes Ah that's that's Ah right right .	look and usability
-C	922.45	Yeah .	look and usability
-B	924.43	We can't make it smaller than the things we see now I think .	look and usability
-A	928.77	Just big enough for the buttons we have , that's that's it .	look and usability
-B	930.63	Yeah .	look and usability
-B	931.2	Or we have to make something uh like uh mobile phones that you can uh fold it opem .	look and usability
-C	938.86	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	939.83	Yeah .	look and usability
-B	940.48	Maybe then you can make it s smaller and uniquer , maybe more trendy .	look and usability
-A	947.24	But you you you you think about uh uh one you can fold open .	look and usability
-B	950.6	Fold open , where you can see uh more options .	look and usability
-A	951.35	Okay , yeah , that's cool .	look and usability
-B	953.3	I think Yeah , something uh on top , just dren general things like volume and T_V_ channels and inside things you don't use that often .	look and usability
-C	953.4	Yeah n Yeah , or you c O or you could th think of an uh uh a small touch screen on the remote control .	look and usability
-A	953.42	Maybe for the D_V_D_ pla player or something , if you just okay .	look and usability
-A	965.38	Yeah .	look and usability
-D	965.69	Oh that's good , yeah .	look and usability
-B	971.76	Yeah b I wanted No you can make an uh manual in it .	look and usability
-D	972.13	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	973.44	Why should you use a touchscreen on a remote control ?	look and usability
-C	976.06	Uh maybe be uh it's it's Yeah , or um maybe to keep it uh easy and uh small .	look and usability
-A	976.08	There are buttons on it .	look and usability
-A	987.23	Okay .	look and usability
-D	988.52	Yeah , but Yeah but it's not reachable I think , touch screen .	look and usability
-A	988.65	But it's not t t t too expensive to put a touchscreen on it .	look and usability
-B	988.88	But that's Yeah , I think it's much uh too expensive .	look and usability
-C	988.97	Uh like a a to have Yeah , maybe it would .	look and usability
-D	995.89	And we have to care for uh the strength of the remote control , because uh uh remote controls are most uh things in the house that falls down on the ground and it get often uh broken .	look and usability
-A	999.57	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1005.2	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1006.06	So .	look and usability
-A	1007.61	And if you have a touch screen in it , it's definitely too too fragile uh fragile .	look and usability
-B	1010.38	Yeah , too fragile .	look and usability
-D	1010.67	Yeah and a lots uh uh lots of kids use it and touchscreen is not uh kids uh Um Ma maybe a home station .	look and usability components, materials and energy sources
-A	1014.83	No .	look and usability
-A	1016.63	You can put games on your remote control .	look and usability
-C	1017.1	Kid-proof .	look and usability
-A	1019.25	Whatever .	look and usability
-B	1019.77	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1021.97	And uh how about the batteries ?	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1024.1	Uh should you put it in a recharger or a just Mm yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1027.87	Oh maybe that's a good idea , just to put it on your television and just s recharge , you never have to use any batteries .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1029.51	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1032.55	Maybe that's a good idea , but yeah , we have to look at the price now I think .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1036.66	Yeah , how m how mu how how expensive uh is a normal recharger ?	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1036.93	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1037.89	Yeah , I dunno .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1039.16	Well uh how much is your uh standards uh mobile phone recharger ?	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1045.05	I dunno .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1046.08	Yeah , if you buy it uh separately from your phone it's probably expensive , but I don't know what the project uh projection costs are for such a thing .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1048.5	Ah yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1053.19	Maybe have uh Yeah , 'cause well Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1054.86	Uh if you th look at the market , it's probably it's still the best way just to put batteries in it , because maybe it's too expensive .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1060.69	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1060.99	Yeah , but a home station is uh a really good idea , because uh lots of people are uh lose their remote control and don't know where it is , and now you can put it always at the same place .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1070.2	Yeah , that's right , yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1072.56	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1072.7	Maybe it's Therefore it's a good idea , but maybe it's expensive .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1078.09	Maybe uh use it as a separate option .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1080.59	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1081.13	Sell it uh separately .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1082.0	You can yeah , you can buy it with it .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1083.55	Yeah , but I have a mouse that's uh uh also uh Yeah , and and you just have normal batteries that you can recharge and just put it in the station , or you can change your batteries , so .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1088.59	Rechargeable .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1093.78	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1096.25	Oh yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1097.56	The option , just the option , that's cool .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1098.91	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1099.49	Uh I I set something on paper already , size , looks , uh usable , uh the buttons on usable places , uh the the on off button must be on top , uh it has to lay good in the hand , you you have to uh Yeah , I don't I don't know I don't know if we You can make it very special , to create our own um looks , but it's very hard to Nah .	look and usability
-A	1109.97	Yeah .	look and usability
-B	1111.38	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1114.49	Has it be has does it has to b have to be um uh like a different form than a normal remote control or Yeah Yeah .	look and usability
-B	1122.26	Well I think we have to look at that , 'cause well you can do the standard way , but then you won't Well you can um have uh the basic things on the same place , like on off button on top and the T_V_ channels one two three four as a block , and then the volume uh obviously on t on top , so you can see .	look and usability
-C	1134.01	N uh if if we want to make it special , we probably have to do a lot of testing , if it really works .	look and usability
-C	1153.09	Yeah .	look and usability
-B	1157.86	But the rest is uh you don't use that often , so if you have a clear button with an good icon on it , it should be clear as well .	look and usability
-C	1166.63	Yeah .	look and usability
-B	1166.97	So it doesn't matter what place it is on the remote control I think , so you can do something unique with that .	look and usability
-C	1174.92	And what we have to think about too is uh uh buttons that you use often are um maybe uh like when you fold it open , when you have it closed , you can still uh do the th the functions .	look and usability
-D	1189.15	Yeah yeah , what Paul already said .	look and usability
-D	1190.6	Uh on on top are the the basic options on top , and if you fold it open Mm .	look and usability
-C	1190.76	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1190.8	Yeah , just for the T_V_ and just the normal function , that's fine .	look and usability
-C	1191.39	But n yeah , but uh i basically when I'm watching T_V_ I'm just using like five buttons or so , so .	look and usability
-B	1192.56	Yeah , yeah .	look and usability
-A	1195.56	But maybe it's maybe it's very hard to to make it fold open and to l look like it's very uh uh what's it's called ?	look and usability
-B	1199.08	Yeah .	look and usability
-B	1199.33	That's what I meant .	look and usability
-D	1208.35	If you if if you make to fold open it's or also an uh the strength uh is not s as good as a normal uh remote control .	look and usability
-B	1208.82	Uh Okay , but yeah .	look and usability
-A	1209.56	Maybe it's hard t No , that's right .	look and usability
-A	1214.85	So maybe we have to to uh keep it like mm a square , just normal remote control .	look and usability
-A	1223.19	Just think about it .	look and usability
-C	1223.34	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1224.06	We have to close this uh to finish this uh meeting , so .	closing
-C	1227.5	Okay .	closing
-A	1228.61	There's some more things .	closing
-A	1231.54	We have uh another thirty minutes , so then we're going to meet again .	closing
-A	1236.18	So you know what you have to what you have to do ?	closing
-D	1240.37	Okay .	closing
-A	1242.04	Yeah .	closing
-D	1242.56	Um for m for me uh the Marketing Expert , the user requirements uh specification , do I need to think as a user , a as a a a only the looks and the Okay .	closing
-B	1252.63	No , what you want to do with it .	closing
-A	1253.81	Yeah , I think this if you you have to n know if it's for s a T_V_ , a D_V_D_ player , all that things .	closing
-A	1259.99	Also from a user , but all these things together .	closing
-D	1261.53	Yeah , it's also about strength and uh for everything uh .	closing
-A	1262.83	Yeah , everything .	closing
-B	1263.14	Yeah , I also wrote down some stuff that you want on a Technical fun fu What do you want to do with your remote control , what do you need on your remote control .	closing
-A	1265.63	Yeah , no maybe not not uh , that's not a f that's something for for for yeah .	closing
-A	1271.76	That's not for you .	closing
-D	1273.54	Okay .	closing
-A	1273.88	Just if what's in the market , what's normal , uh what kind of uh buttons do you have .	closing
-B	1280.7	I already wrote some down , some ideas .	closing
-A	1280.83	Yeah , it's alright .	closing
-D	1284.4	Yep .	closing
-A	1285.19	Yeah , just is that okay ?	closing
-D	1287.25	Okay .	closing
-B	1287.61	Yep .	closing
-C	1287.93	Okay .	closing
-A	1288.9	Okay .	closing
-B	1289.65	There's already a document in the folder about it .	closing
-D	1293.79	Yeah , me too .	closing
-A	1298.49	So see you in thirty minutes .	closing
-D	1300.15	Okay , well done .	closing
-B	1300.54	Okay .	closing
-C	1301.1	Okay .	closing
-A	1302.08	For the next time you have to uh put it exactly on the square , so your laptop .	closing
-B	1307.77	I will .	closing
-D	1308.02	Oh Paul .	closing
-B	1311.48	It didn't say that .	closing
-A	1312.98	No , sorry .	closing
-B	1313.75	Your fault .	closing
-D	1317.06	Ciao .	closing
-B	1327.99	Bye bye .	closing
-D	1328.44	Bye bye .	closing

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-A	34.67	I just forgot their name , so uh you're i sorry , I just forgot them all .	particpant names
-A	37.99	So I have to write it down .	particpant names
-D	40.34	Okay .	particpant names
-A	41.4	So Do you know them or Yeah .	particpant names
-D	42.24	Fine .	particpant names
-D	45.83	The names ?	particpant names
-D	48.32	For for for my sur um Jens .	particpant names
-A	49.76	Yeah .	particpant names
-A	51.38	Yeah , no , but your b your surname .	particpant names
-D	53.66	Uh Damman .	particpant names
-D	56.72	D_ A_ W_ .	particpant names
-A	62.78	W_O_ da .	particpant names
-D	62.88	Uh uh M_ M_ .	particpant names
-A	63.77	Okay .	particpant names
-D	64.42	I mean M_ .	particpant names
-D	65.51	Double M_ .	particpant names
-A	67.3	Okay .	particpant names
-A	69.33	And what's your name ?	particpant names
-B	71.31	Paul Wiezer .	particpant names
-B	72.68	Paul Wiezer .	particpant names
-A	75.26	W_I_E_S_ z Z_ or S_ ?	particpant names
-B	75.33	A_ E_ Z_ zee zee E_ R_ .	particpant names
-A	78.3	Uh uh zee .	particpant names
-A	81.55	Okay .	particpant names
-A	82.68	What's your name ?	particpant names
-C	84.0	Uh Martijn .	particpant names
-A	85.28	Yeah , but your surname .	particpant names
-C	87.41	What ?	particpant names
-A	87.86	Your surname .	particpant names
-C	89.01	Uh Abbing .	particpant names
-C	91.07	A_ B_ B_ I_ N_ G_ .	particpant names
-A	92.84	Okay , thanks .	particpant names
-C	97.16	I was a little short on time , but What ?	opening
-B	97.23	Uh .	particpant names
-A	98.82	Yeah , me too , so that's not No no no , I just fi first my So let's have a look , we have forty minutes , so it's it's more than enough .	opening
-B	99.89	Yeah , same here .	opening
-D	102.72	Oh .	opening
-D	103.62	Sorry .	opening
-B	106.89	Uh let's see .	opening
-B	108.48	Which one was mine ?	opening
-A	119.34	Okay , perfect .	opening
-A	120.89	So we have Oh no , what's that ?	opening
-A	126.21	So so we have uh forty minutes for this uh for this second meeting , and we have to make uh sure that we going t that we are sure , that we are , that we know what we're going to make uh th what the product is going to like look like .	opening
-B	131.16	Good .	opening
-A	141.28	Uh first I have the notes of the last meeting , so I showed uh show them to you .	opening
-A	147.78	Oh , sorry about that , I just escape this one .	opening
-A	151.83	How do I escape this ?	opening
-A	154.37	How do I I escape this s uh presentation ?	opening
-B	157.69	Uh left .	opening
-C	157.77	Uh Just Yeah .	opening
-A	159.02	Ah okay .	opening
-B	159.68	So Okay .	new requirements opening
-A	160.79	And show , sorry .	opening
-A	163.13	Okay , so let's have a look s at this one .	opening
-A	167.75	Okay , so the f the f the points we had last meeting was the um Should be a univ uh universal remote control No , that's I uh s I just got a email from the from the personal coach and it should be a T_V_ remote control only .	new requirements opening
-A	182.26	So have you changed that part ?	new requirements
-D	184.67	Okay .	new requirements
-A	185.46	Um so yeah , it still has to be uh f a r a remote control for kids and elderly .	new requirements
-A	191.83	It's it's still the same .	new requirements
-A	194.08	Um All these points uh we have to look at .	new requirements
-A	199.16	You all know them .	new requirements
-A	200.59	But uh there's another point .	new requirements
-A	202.07	The um uh the main uh people of interest of this company are forty plus people .	new requirements
-A	210.64	So they're old and not younger people .	new requirements
-A	213.91	So we have to look at that as well .	new requirements
-A	216.52	'Specially old people , maybe bi bigger buttons or something , I dunno .	new requirements
-B	219.65	Yeah , okay .	new requirements
-A	225.01	Uh so So yeah , that's it , so just you can do your presentation for uh Oh it doesn't matter , just start with the I I didn't read i read it , so it's not for me , I didn't get it uh anyway .	marketing expert presentation new requirements
-B	234.24	Which one first ?	marketing expert presentation
-D	235.03	Okay .	marketing expert presentation
-B	237.45	Okay .	marketing expert presentation
-D	240.63	Mm .	marketing expert presentation
-D	249.67	Uh Okay .	marketing expert presentation
-B	251.55	Functional requirements , yeah .	marketing expert presentation
-D	261.68	Well my name is Jens Damman , but we're in a group , and I I will start it .	marketing expert presentation
-D	267.09	Wait .	marketing expert presentation
-D	268.99	Um I've used a marketing report on uh the site .	marketing expert presentation
-D	275.37	Uh I think you've uh read it too .	marketing expert presentation
-D	278.85	Uh and uh f and furthermore I uh surfed the o the other site .	marketing expert presentation
-D	285.97	You didn't read it ?	marketing expert presentation
-B	286.93	No , I didn don't thing we got it .	marketing expert presentation
-D	287.91	Oh okay , I I was the only one who get it .	marketing expert presentation
-A	288.0	It's only for you .	marketing expert presentation
-A	289.65	Yeah .	marketing expert presentation
-B	289.88	Yes .	marketing expert presentation
-D	290.03	Okay it was uh uh uh um um a report about uh an experiment with uh a lot of users .	user requirements
-D	298.6	And uh they had a lot of findings in their report uh with statistical uh uh uh thing uh with statistical uh proof .	user requirements
-D	308.92	So I um I had three pages with findings and sev a lot of uh a lot of findings .	user requirements
-D	315.28	So we can use this uh to uh create our own remote control .	user requirements
-D	319.6	Uh seventy five percent of the users find uh most remote controls ugly .	user requirements
-D	325.12	Yeah , I think uh uh that's a lot , so we have to make a beautiful remote control .	user requirements
-D	330.75	Uh eighty percent of users would spend when uh a remote control will l uh look fancy .	user requirements
-D	336.53	I think this fits uh at the uh what what uh Michael said about uh older people .	user requirements
-D	342.97	Older people will uh spend more money uh for uh something uh uh what's good .	user requirements
-D	348.72	Because younger people are more critical uh about uh uh where they spend their money money at .	user requirements
-D	356.96	Uh seventy five percent uh seventy five percent of the users say they zap a lot .	user requirements
-D	361.69	Well okay , that's uh normal .	user requirements
-D	364.23	I think uh we we have to make uh good zap buttons .	user requirements
-D	367.78	But that's one of our requirements .	user requirements
-A	369.77	The last point is quite an interesting So if we Yeah .	user requirements
-D	371.73	Yes , fifty percent of users say they only use ten percent of the buttons .	user requirements
-D	375.39	Um Martijn alr already said it .	user requirements
-D	377.93	And uh maybe our uh fold open system is is a good one , but I don't think it's uh reachable .	user requirements
-A	386.0	Yeah , we should have the ten percent on the on the top , then you're you're So we have uh a new uh age of forty plus .	user requirements
-D	388.96	Yeah , the ten percent on the top , yeah .	user requirements
-C	389.83	Yeah .	user requirements
-D	390.3	That that's a good one .	user requirements
-D	392.16	Um uh page two .	user requirements
-D	394.46	Remote controls are often lost somewhere in the room .	user requirements
-D	397.78	That's exactly what we said about um maybe a home station for uh for it uh to uh recharge the batteries or something .	user requirements
-D	406.67	Uh I thought mo maybe we could make a clap system , so when you clap your hands it will beep or something .	user requirements
-D	413.36	Uh you must find it uh quickly .	user requirements
-B	415.66	Uh .	user requirements
-B	416.77	Maybe just a button on the home station .	user requirements
-B	418.52	So remote control beeps when you click that button on the home station .	user requirements
-D	423.07	Okay , yeah .	user requirements
-D	424.78	Yeah , we can uh combine that .	user requirements
-D	426.72	Uh it takes too much time to learn how to use a r new remote control .	user requirements
-D	431.38	Uh I think we must t uh take a look at this .	user requirements
-D	434.43	It's only uh th thirty four of the thirty four percent .	user requirements
-D	438.78	But it's uh a tough one .	user requirements
-D	441.76	Because if we make a ha whole new product , our own style , we we c uh this is so difficult , uh a difficulty I think .	user requirements
-D	452.34	Uh next , remote controls are bad for R_S_I_ .	user requirements
-D	455.47	Yeah , but only if they zap a lot , and they watch over five hours T_V_ or something .	user requirements
-D	460.05	I don't We we haven't Uh we mustn't look too much at uh the last point .	user requirements
-D	465.99	Okay , last page .	user requirements
-D	468.48	Uh the last uh experiment uh was about gadgets , like uh speech recognition .	user requirements
-D	474.48	We didn't uh think about that already .	user requirements
-D	477.91	And uh an L_C_D_ on the remote control .	user requirements
-D	480.64	We already thought about that .	user requirements
-D	482.59	Um uh they finally had a conclusion that younger people um uh under an age of f forty five are uh more interested in new features .	user requirements
-D	494.06	And but they're more critical .	user requirements
-D	496.33	And older people uh want to spend uh more money .	user requirements
-D	499.67	But uh they uh they don't want to uh have a lot of uh new features , because they're in their old uh thinking way .	user requirements
-D	507.32	And they want to keep the old uh things the old things .	user requirements
-D	513.61	But y But you but you already said that the uh company was about uh forty plus uh clients ?	user requirements
-A	518.2	People .	user requirements
-A	518.5	So yeah , so we just can skip the L_C_D_ r on the remote control , because Yeah .	user requirements
-D	521.42	I I think we can speak , uh we can skip speech recognition uh directly , because it's not reachable for twenty five Euros .	user requirements
-B	522.37	Yeah .	user requirements
-A	527.92	It's too Okay .	user requirements
-C	530.86	Yeah .	user requirements
-D	531.85	Um then I have my personal uh preference .	marketing strategy user requirements
-D	537.16	Okay , that's not very good , because I thought about television , D_V_D_ player , stereo and V_C_R_ .	marketing strategy
-D	543.09	I had a question about .	marketing strategy
-D	544.21	But it's already out of the question , this .	marketing strategy
-D	547.23	Um my point is , well , I If we ma uh make a a remote uh control for only television , I think it's hard to uh sell it for twenty five Euros .	marketing strategy
-D	558.76	But it's the exercise .	marketing strategy
-A	560.2	Because it's too expensive .	marketing strategy
-D	561.29	Yeah , only only for television uh On the market you can now buy for twenty Euros a remote control for everything .	marketing strategy
-A	561.76	Yeah , probably .	marketing strategy
-D	568.89	And we only make it for television , so we mi mm we m must made it make it uh very special .	marketing strategy
-B	573.89	Yeah , but good usability , so you can use it .	marketing strategy
-D	577.0	Okay , I told about the home station .	marketing strategy
-D	579.36	Uh it must be simple , because uh our the the elderly people uh needs to use it .	marketing strategy
-D	585.05	And I I found a motto .	marketing strategy
-D	587.07	And we put the fashion in electronics .	marketing strategy
-D	589.88	And that's uh the motto we are uh referenced to uh for our uh our style .	marketing strategy
-D	596.25	We we have to make a a new product .	marketing strategy
-D	599.73	We have to be um Yeah .	marketing strategy
-D	604.39	One of a kind , I think .	marketing strategy
-A	605.86	So it has to look uh uh uh unique , but Yeah .	marketing strategy
-B	608.0	Unique .	marketing strategy
-D	608.7	The company is about our uh th th their own fashion , their own style .	marketing strategy
-B	612.09	Yeah , I reckon Uh I think mm Uh Yeah .	marketing strategy
-A	613.32	But old people are not looking for that .	marketing strategy
-A	616.38	Not really .	marketing strategy
-C	617.45	Yeah .	marketing strategy
-C	618.58	I think the main thing is the usability , that's where we can uh make it a special product .	marketing strategy
-D	623.22	Yeah , to k to keep it simple when you Sorry I thought about it , yes .	marketing strategy
-A	624.0	Okay .	marketing strategy
-A	624.61	Yeah .	marketing strategy
-B	625.15	But uh we also have to stand out , 'cause there are already , like you said , so many controls out that support lot of stuff .	marketing strategy
-C	625.21	Yeah .	marketing strategy
-B	633.22	But we have to make sure that we're better usability , and stand out by just looks of it .	marketing strategy
-B	638.48	So make it just a different colour or different shape , so Okay .	interface specialist presentation marketing strategy
-A	640.84	Yeah .	marketing strategy
-A	641.84	Okay .	marketing strategy
-D	643.07	Okay , this was uh my presentation .	marketing expert presentation
-A	644.29	Thanks .	marketing expert presentation
-C	645.72	Okay .	marketing expert presentation
-D	648.48	I don't Yeah .	marketing expert presentation
-A	649.13	So Paul , you can do the next one if you want .	interface specialist presentation
-D	649.6	You can ask some questions or something .	marketing expert presentation
-B	652.37	Yeah well Uh .	interface specialist presentation
-A	654.99	It's on the on the uh net net uh thing , isn't it ?	interface specialist presentation
-B	657.61	There it is .	interface specialist presentation
-B	666.05	Okay .	interface specialist presentation
-B	667.03	Technical functions design .	interface specialist presentation
-B	670.23	Okay , well , so we have s mm uh broad audience .	look and usability
-B	673.91	Isn't that isn't true anymore .	look and usability
-B	675.41	But um we have elderly people , so we need to keep it simple .	look and usability
-B	680.03	Uh the way I want to keep it simple is to use the sen uh standard .	look and usability
-B	684.8	So standardised uh methods like uh on all uh remote controls .	look and usability
-B	691.84	Not too full , like uh Jens already said , only ten percent is being used .	look and usability
-A	697.08	So what do you think of only the numbers and the on-off button or Okay .	look and usability
-B	700.16	Yeah , I have it on the next page .	look and usability
-B	701.75	But yes uh basic functions like numbers and that sort of stuff .	look and usability
-B	706.96	Um so the options that we put on there should be easy to use , and 'cause you have more room then , and for elderly people big buttons .	look and usability
-B	717.0	Uh an icon on it or text on it , so it's very clear what that buttons does .	look and usability
-B	723.08	So it doesn't take much time to figure out uh how to use it .	look and usability
-B	727.49	Um a way to find out uh what people use is maybe just to use uh questionnaires on the internet or just ask some random people , elderly people what they use , what they want on a remote control to find out .	look and usability
-A	742.74	Yeah .	look and usability
-B	745.19	But there is already in a one done .	look and usability
-B	748.82	Of functions I could think of .	look and usability
-B	751.22	Uh volume , channels , the the basic according to .	look and usability
-B	756.13	Just one two three etcetera .	look and usability
-B	758.12	Uh text service options .	look and usability
-B	760.5	Um basic on-off .	look and usability
-B	762.38	And I found an uh Could I think of favourites ?	look and usability
-B	766.82	I always look up the same um pages on text and always have to click the number .	look and usability
-A	773.36	Okay .	look and usability
-B	773.94	But if you could make a new option , that you just have to press one button and you get on your No y Well it's It was just a thought .	look and usability
-C	778.78	Yeah , but then you have to remember what favourite is what channel .	look and usability
-C	782.36	So you might as well remember the number .	look and usability
-C	786.66	Or not ?	look and usability
-A	787.56	Maybe i maybe it's too complicated , but not sure .	look and usability
-A	790.28	It's a good idea , but Uh Uh mayb for me it's If I use my telephone , I never use those buttons to to to call sh Never .	look and usability
-B	791.73	So I'm , I u I would find it handy , I think , when you just press one button and you get on six six six .	look and usability
-C	797.8	Yeah , okay .	look and usability
-C	798.2	But um how can you remember what uh channel uh connects to what favourite button ?	look and usability
-B	806.13	Well uh what I was reading on the page .	look and usability
-B	809.24	Uh a remote control just sends commands , basics commands to uh the television .	look and usability
-B	815.97	So switch to channel six .	look and usability
-C	818.33	Yeah ?	look and usability
-B	818.94	So uh button six says says six .	look and usability
-B	821.64	And if you make favourites , it can say six six six in a row .	look and usability
-B	825.48	Just numbers .	look and usability
-B	826.57	That can be in the in the Well if you said a favourite Well i Never ?	look and usability
-C	826.65	Yeah okay .	look and usability
-C	827.0	But uh uh for a user to to remember , if I press that button it goes to that channel .	look and usability
-C	834.71	Yeah , but isn't it hard to remember ?	look and usability
-C	838.06	Like favourite one and Mm as as hard as No , neither do I .	look and usability
-B	846.03	Oh .	look and usability
-B	846.89	Oh are you ?	look and usability
-A	846.92	So And If I don't do it , maybe old people It's not , it's still not It's not anymore n uh Just on the front as well .	look and usability
-B	848.24	Okay now , m maybe not .	look and usability
-B	853.77	No , maybe elderly people uh .	look and usability
-C	855.28	Yeah , I dunno .	look and usability
-B	855.76	Right .	look and usability
-B	856.2	They don't like new features .	look and usability
-B	857.44	So maybe not .	look and usability
-D	858.3	Mm-hmm .	look and usability
-B	859.42	Um well play , pause .	look and usability
-B	861.41	I dunno if that's usable when Not anymore for T_V_ .	look and usability
-B	866.03	Right , on off .	look and usability
-B	868.06	I dunno , miss Did I miss any other buttons , basic buttons ?	look and usability
-D	873.09	Um Forward .	look and usability
-B	873.31	I couldn't think of any other , 'specially not for T_V_ .	look and usability
-A	877.76	No , that's the only th the only thing you need .	look and usability
-B	879.53	Is Just the channel um uh What I mean is uh Six seven eight or five .	look and usability
-C	879.64	Uh uh the p uh next and previous .	look and usability
-C	882.53	Previous I know , but next channel ?	look and usability
-C	885.29	I don't thi Li like a web browser , so Oh , okay .	look and usability
-A	891.21	Just very simple .	look and usability
-C	891.4	But uh um there's also a button to uh go to the channel you've been before .	look and usability
-C	898.66	Like a web browser back button .	look and usability
-B	900.05	Um I dunno .	look and usability
-A	902.06	Uh Yeah , I know what it is , but I think it's all too difficult for old people .	look and usability
-B	902.26	I don't have Uh I did Yeah , I don't think you use that .	look and usability
-D	904.82	No .	look and usability
-D	906.19	Uh It gets some seconds .	look and usability
-C	906.43	Yeah , okay .	look and usability
-B	906.63	Y only when you want to go to Yeah , just use uh when you wanna switch between channels all the time .	look and usability
-A	913.02	And how do you want to uh do it , like if you have a channel above ten ?	look and usability
-C	913.11	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	918.08	Normally you can press one , zero or A ten plus or Okay .	look and usability
-B	919.74	Yeah , I think um f Especially for older peo elderly people use standard buttons .	look and usability
-B	925.26	So you have that uh Yeah , the ten plus button .	look and usability
-B	929.85	Just uh one one pressing , or quickly after each other .	look and usability
-B	935.05	To just keep it simple and standard uh features .	look and usability
-C	938.0	Yeah , w wouldn't it be a problem to uh Because you h have to be fast enough .	look and usability
-C	943.06	Maybe the elderly people Oh okay .	look and usability
-B	944.53	Uh yeah mayb But I think that's in the T_V_ as well .	look and usability
-B	949.59	That's how the uh the T_V_ T_V_ handles it .	look and usability
-B	951.65	But you can have a button that says um two two st two stripes .	look and usability
-D	955.65	Yeah , it's it's no it's not a It's what Paul says .	look and usability
-C	956.76	Yeah .	look and usability
-B	957.77	So you have uh like a five seconds period to press those two buttons .	look and usability
-C	959.47	Yeah , but that's th mm Okay .	look and usability
-D	962.87	It's not a remote control uh uh that um uh makes the T_V_ um do one two .	look and usability
-D	969.62	It's the T_V_ who depends that it must be two seconds or three seconds or one second that you must uh type one or two .	look and usability
-B	975.67	So if you have a universal T_V_ controller , you needed one button that has two uh stripes .	look and usability
-C	976.47	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	981.43	Yeah .	look and usability
-B	981.7	So we have a a period of , I dunno , five seconds to press those buttons , and that And not for elderly people to look , one two uh press and aim and So I I don't think so .	look and usability
-C	986.84	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	993.22	But do we still need a two level remote control ?	look and usability
-A	995.92	Because if we only have that l only f No .	look and usability
-D	997.07	It's only for television now .	look and usability
-D	1000.19	No .	look and usability
-B	1000.45	Uh I just thought of another one .	look and usability
-B	1002.91	Most things in modern T_V_s are also on the menu .	look and usability
-A	1007.3	Yeah .	look and usability
-B	1007.65	So you also need a menu button .	look and usability
-B	1010.2	And then uh navigation uh But we can integrate that with volume and previous and next , so you have four arrows .	look and usability
-C	1014.77	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1019.59	I I think you ha really have to divide between functions you often use , like um uh m maybe uh switch channels and uh volume and k that kind of things , and uh the menu button .	look and usability
-C	1033.26	Because you n almost never use menu button .	look and usability
-B	1036.29	Yeah , okay , but um Yeah , a mute button .	look and usability
-C	1036.63	So Okay .	look and usability
-A	1038.01	Maybe it's still still a good idea , I'm not sure .	look and usability
-A	1040.4	You'll also have to use a mute button to to Maybe , not I don't know where where you have to put it .	look and usability
-B	1044.52	Yes .	look and usability
-B	1045.49	Don't think so .	look and usability
-B	1049.36	Yeah well , that's that's I think that's the layers that produce .	look and usability
-B	1052.25	Now I have to figure out what's uh what to put on .	look and usability
-A	1055.06	Okay .	look and usability
-B	1055.17	What we're gonna use .	look and usability
-A	1055.41	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1055.94	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1056.16	That's right .	look and usability
-B	1056.49	And later we can d uh do the design .	look and usability
-B	1059.63	Okay , uh now my personal preferences .	look and usability
-B	1062.58	Uh using the standards , basic Um I think that we should stand out uh unique , being unique with the design .	look and usability
-B	1072.15	So we have to , I dunno , uh make a different shape than usual .	look and usability
-B	1076.08	So when you are in the shop and you see our T_V_ controller hanging , that it stands out .	look and usability
-B	1081.41	Not just in in the row when you see all the same uh remote controls .	look and usability
-A	1085.72	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1086.79	Does it have to be Uh it has to be uh with different colours or It's like a iMac or something .	look and usability
-B	1086.82	Um I dunno .	look and usability
-B	1091.38	Different colours um Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1093.11	Maybe we can give it out in different colours .	look and usability
-D	1095.28	You can choose blue or yellow or That's fa That's fancy .	look and usability
-A	1097.78	Just to make it But it looks cheap as well , because it's a small thing .	look and usability
-C	1097.99	Mm-hmm .	look and usability
-B	1098.94	Well why not ?	look and usability
-B	1099.97	Or Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1101.29	That's uh fashion .	look and usability
-A	1104.43	It's only twenty five Euros .	look and usability
-A	1105.59	It looks very cheap if you make it Oh , you just I dunno what happened .	look and usability
-B	1107.4	Well , maybe you can look at uh mobile phones .	look and usability
-B	1110.95	Oh .	look and usability
-B	1112.9	Who ?	look and usability
-A	1117.33	Yeah , we have to look at mobile phones , that's right .	look and usability
-B	1118.75	They they're uh designed very well .	look and usability
-A	1119.06	Just Yeah .	look and usability
-B	1121.4	And well basically are the same , just a bit smaller .	look and usability
-B	1125.8	You think you can't make a T_V_ controller too small , 'cause then you will always lo always lose it .	look and usability
-A	1130.85	Yeah .	look and usability
-B	1132.01	But uh well , I think that's a good example .	look and usability
-D	1135.09	Okay .	look and usability
-A	1135.49	Okay , we hurry up a bit , because otherwise we won't make it .	interface specialist presentation
-B	1137.16	Okay , sorry .	interface specialist presentation
-A	1138.43	Is it fin Are you finished ?	interface specialist presentation
-B	1138.43	Well uh Yeah , I I'm finished .	interface specialist presentation
-A	1139.4	Okay .	interface specialist presentation
-B	1140.89	I think we discussed everything .	interface specialist presentation
-C	1153.19	Okay .	industrial designer presentation
-C	1155.48	Well , the working design .	industrial designer presentation
-C	1158.82	The method I used is uh search the web .	industrial designer presentation
-C	1161.61	Just the web page provided .	industrial designer presentation
-C	1165.01	Um Basically I'm I'm not very technical uh uh educated , but uh I could figure it out .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1174.21	Um basically what happens is you press a button , uh then a circuit gets closed by pressing the button , uh like a switch .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1184.66	And by closing that certain circuit , the chip knows uh what bu button is pressed .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1190.55	So like you press a one , that circuit is closed and uh Then the chip produces a pattern .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1199.73	Like a Morse code to uh And and sends that to the uh L_E_D_ .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1206.95	That's the uh light emitting diode , I think .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1212.52	Um and the light emitting diode is uh producing infrared light .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1218.22	That's un uh invisible to the human eye .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1223.25	And uh transmit that uh to the T_V_ .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1228.28	However it has also an uh a visible uh diode that's uh blinking red if you look in it .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1236.37	Mm-hmm .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1236.79	And that's uh another diode , I believe .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1240.41	Because infrared is not visible .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1242.6	So that's er uh do two different things but Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1245.63	So we we also have to have a LED li LED light on it ?	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1248.58	I I think so .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1250.05	Uh j Is Ain't it just to to indicate that it's transmitting ?	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1250.1	I I'm not sure if it's the same thing .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1251.34	Yeah , it's I think it's usable .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1253.65	Yeah , that's active .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1254.96	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1255.16	Yeah .	look and usability
-B	1256.15	So Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1256.17	Or just a green one , because it's If you use it , it's green or the red , it's r green .	look and usability
-B	1260.83	Maybe uh Maybe depends on uh Yes .	look and usability
-D	1261.35	I I think it's in the case that it's active .	look and usability
-D	1263.3	It's not uh I it's it's just uh the the Mm .	look and usability
-C	1264.28	Yeah , when you press it .	look and usability
-A	1264.54	Yeah , that's right .	look and usability
-A	1264.98	But if you Red's l shows up like something's wrong , and green is like it's okay , you press the button .	look and usability
-C	1265.19	So Two ?	look and usability
-C	1272.92	Yeah , I dunno .	look and usability
-C	1274.56	Ma on on most on most uh uh remote controls it's red .	look and usability
-A	1278.51	Yeah , I know .	look and usability
-C	1278.57	So So I know .	look and usability
-D	1278.72	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1279.31	Okay , we make it red .	look and usability
-B	1280.11	But maybe Well we don't have to make it red .	look and usability
-B	1282.21	Maybe integrate it in the design as well .	look and usability
-A	1285.12	You have to The whole the whole uh remote control becomes uh green if you press the buttons .	look and usability
-A	1290.74	Uh that's cool .	look and usability
-B	1291.49	Uh Oh , maybe it's it is would an e No .	look and usability
-C	1293.59	I I think uh the batteries will be uh a little Yeah , okay .	look and usability
-B	1295.05	Just uh Oh .	look and usability
-A	1297.09	No , we have a recharger in it , so If we can still make that then But it's cool if it was green .	look and usability
-D	1298.49	Empty .	look and usability
-C	1300.36	Uh maybe .	look and usability
-B	1302.61	Yeah , but it doesn't have to be red .	look and usability
-B	1304.5	It's just to indicate something's on .	look and usability
-D	1305.77	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1306.74	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1307.1	That it's working .	look and usability
-C	1307.81	That it's not not the batteries are low .	look and usability
-B	1308.12	Yeah .	look and usability
-B	1308.85	It's it's not very important , so yeah .	look and usability
-A	1310.22	Green or red or whatever , it is cool .	look and usability
-C	1311.39	Yeah , I know .	look and usability
-C	1312.45	Just to indicate it's working .	look and usability
-B	1313.6	So mm So we have to uh make buttons for that as well , to make it uh Okay .	look and usability
-C	1315.01	And uh the receptor in the T_V_ senses the pattern .	look and usability
-C	1317.72	So we have to understand what patterns are used to , you know , to make it universal .	look and usability
-C	1323.9	So that it can be used with all the T_V_s .	look and usability
-C	1327.1	We have to really understand what patterns are used , so we can uh o On the Otherwise it won't work .	look and usability
-C	1338.67	No .	look and usability
-C	1339.05	I I uh The chip um uh is producing the pattern .	look and usability
-C	1343.71	So we have to make a chip that produces patterns to , y you know , to Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1349.68	An automatically search function for each television , or something .	look and usability
-C	1350.36	That are working .	look and usability
-C	1353.4	Yeah , or I dunno how it's uh exactly how it works .	look and usability
-C	1356.42	It wasn't explained there .	look and usability
-B	1357.78	Well , I I use a universal uh remote control , and list of all the T_V_s you have , etcetera .	look and usability
-D	1358.12	Uh I kno Oh , I have a modern one .	look and usability
-B	1367.21	And you have to put in a number , so it works on your T_V_ .	look and usability
-C	1369.94	Yeah ?	look and usability
-C	1372.12	Okay .	look and usability
-D	1374.38	And the modern one you you uh you type uh search , and the LED began to blink blink blink .	look and usability
-D	1380.57	And uh uh uh after uh a short time the television turns off .	look and usability
-D	1385.69	And then you know , oh it it's the right one .	look and usability
-D	1387.28	And you can stop it , and then it's okay .	look and usability
-C	1388.99	Ah okay .	look and usability
-D	1389.38	So you don't have to search for your television or your code .	look and usability
-C	1392.39	Okay .	look and usability
-D	1392.8	It uh search uh the pattern for itself .	look and usability
-C	1396.16	Okay , yeah .	look and usability
-B	1396.19	Okay , so we use that .	look and usability
-C	1397.62	So it uh We have to make a a s a bit more intelligent chip than the standard one .	look and usability
-D	1402.11	Yes .	look and usability
-C	1402.13	Because you have to Yeah .	look and usability
-B	1402.77	Yep .	look and usability
-A	1404.57	I just say Can you s just say it again , because I was just looking There's just a short Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1408.28	Uh okay .	look and usability
-C	1409.41	Well uh y you have this chip .	look and usability
-C	1411.4	That's uh when the circuit is closed , it produces the pattern .	look and usability
-A	1413.75	Mm-hmm .	look and usability
-C	1415.63	But uh ma basically for uh brands of T_V_ these patterns are different .	look and usability
-C	1422.29	So like when you press a one on one T_V_ it go go to one .	look and usability
-C	1425.96	And on the other T_V_ it won't work , basically .	look and usability
-C	1428.9	So uh basically what you have to do is uh get these patterns right .	look and usability
-A	1434.25	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1434.97	And uh by d uh that can be done by uh just uh cha yeah , changing this pattern all the time .	look and usability
-D	1440.54	Changing the signal .	look and usability
-C	1444.01	And um What he's doing when he's configuring this pattern , this chip , uh is trying to switch off the television .	look and usability
-C	1453.69	And when it's uh switched off , you can push a button as uh it's working now , so And then he saves that setting and then um it's working .	look and usability
-A	1461.43	Okay .	look and usability
-A	1461.97	Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1464.22	Yeah , that's the right uh option .	look and usability
-C	1465.36	Okay .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1467.69	Well uh the components .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1470.66	Yeah , that's a bit technical , and I hadn't I w I was a little short on time .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1476.51	Um but I think I understand it .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1479.9	Um the energy source is uh the battery , basically .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1484.36	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1485.16	Um that's connecting to all the components .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1490.18	Because it has to be fed with energy .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1494.25	Okay .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1494.7	Uh the subcomponent is uh w I I think it is uh the button pressed .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1501.84	So basically when you press a button , a switch get closed .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1506.64	Um that's connecting to a chip .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1509.35	So the chip knows what button you pressed .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1513.28	And the chip sends out uh the pattern to the infrared bulb .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1518.26	I didn didn't put the description by this one .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1520.67	Th this is a normal bulb .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1522.01	So the normal flashing light .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1524.7	Okay .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1525.23	So that's the LED , L_E_D_ .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1526.22	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1526.81	Yeah , and this is a LED too .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1528.11	But this one is producing infrared light that's invisible .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1530.75	Yeah , okay .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1531.79	And this one is producing normal light .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1533.86	So we can make the normal one also a normal light .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1536.69	Not a LED light , but as a normal one .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1539.44	Yeah Yeah , presu Yeah yeah yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1539.88	To flash up your Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1541.47	Uh if you if you use the buttons , uh both of them works .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1544.88	But one you can't see and one indicates that you use a button .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1550.69	Because uh when you button press a button and it doesn't work , it can Basically if the battery is low , it won't work .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1556.97	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1558.0	Yeah , and Mm I think it's unnecessary power uh you use then .	look and usability components, materials and energy sources
-C	1558.15	So you have to indicate that it's Huh , that's a good idea .	look and usability components, materials and energy sources
-A	1559.98	Maybe you have to uh put uh a small light around the button you push .	look and usability
-A	1564.04	So you see green if you push that button .	look and usability
-A	1570.3	Yeah , but if you u if you do that , you know that you're uh sending a signal .	look and usability
-B	1570.89	No , y Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1573.58	Okay .	look and usability
-A	1574.63	And it's you also know which button you p Yeah , that's right .	look and usability
-D	1575.25	But then have to be on the in the all uh remote control have to be LEDs .	look and usability
-A	1580.31	But it But does it make any difference for the energy you use ?	look and usability
-D	1580.37	Everywhere in the r Is LEDs uh beneath the the buttons ?	look and usability
-A	1585.65	You got still one LED .	look and usability
-B	1585.79	No I don't think so , but Yeah , i it it will look different , and I think we need to find something else .	look and usability
-A	1591.91	That looks different , yeah .	look and usability
-B	1592.82	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1593.54	Hmm .	look and usability
-B	1594.11	'Cause otherwise we will just make another standard , and our uh motto also is Yeah , w around the buttons , or in the buttons even .	look and usability
-D	1605.63	Yeah , okay .	look and usability
-C	1607.3	Yeah , but mm like when you push it n n Yeah .	look and usability
-B	1609.65	Yeah , then then won't Then you won't see it .	look and usability
-C	1611.29	You have your finger over the button .	look and usability
-C	1613.02	So you can see Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1613.98	It must be around it then .	look and usability
-C	1615.87	Or or m maybe on top of the A green light is flashing or Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1619.05	Yeah , then Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1619.78	Not not not not here , but here .	look and usability
-C	1623.71	There .	look and usability
-C	1624.04	Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1626.43	Maybe uh Okay .	look and usability
-A	1627.47	The same as a telephone , or a mobile phone , or what do you mean ?	look and usability
-B	1629.61	Yeah , we're thinking about it .	look and usability
-B	1630.74	Uh on a mobile phone , in the dark uh everything lights up .	look and usability
-A	1631.07	If you push It lights up .	look and usability
-A	1633.34	Everything lights up .	look and usability
-A	1634.11	That's a good idea .	look and usability
-C	1634.94	Yeah .	look and usability
-B	1634.99	Why ain't that on a remote control ?	look and usability
-A	1636.12	It it only takes a l a little energy and it's not that much .	look and usability
-B	1638.37	Yeah , if uh a mobile phone a phone can do it , it's Yeah , i if you're in the dark , you can't see the remote .	look and usability
-C	1641.28	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1641.38	It's f Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1641.96	Maybe that's a good idea for old people as well .	look and usability
-C	1644.34	Mm-hmm .	look and usability
-A	1647.06	It's only few LEDs .	look and usability
-C	1647.23	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1648.06	Only four or something .	look and usability
-A	1649.75	Four LED .	look and usability
-B	1650.88	No , I dunno .	look and usability
-B	1651.5	But if we use a battery station , which I think we will use Yep .	look and usability
-D	1656.02	Yeah , I uh Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1656.79	Yeah , that's a good idea , okay .	look and usability
-C	1657.8	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1658.13	We'll have enough power to Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1659.9	Everything agre Everyone agrees with that , or Okay .	look and usability
-D	1664.01	Maybe what Paul said , uh under the on the on the home station , uh a button to uh to call your uh remote control , that it beeps .	look and usability
-A	1665.89	Yeah , and then you Okay , yeah .	look and usability
-B	1672.39	And also it's Okay , it shouldn't take much Uh I th I think uh you also have uh remote controls with a lot of options .	look and usability
-A	1672.68	But you have to make a sound device in it then .	look and usability
-D	1674.86	Yeah , there must be sound in it .	look and usability
-C	1676.69	Hmm .	look and usability
-A	1676.85	But Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1678.0	I dunno .	look and usability
-C	1679.05	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1679.26	B maybe it's that that's a little too hard to make .	look and usability
-C	1683.62	Especially for that kind of money .	look and usability
-C	1685.21	Because it's i it has to be Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1685.44	Mm uh , twenty five Euros , I think we can make it .	look and usability
-C	1687.69	Production cost is uh t uh twelve and a half .	look and usability
-D	1688.44	Bec Twelve and a half , okay .	look and usability
-D	1690.79	But but we only have to make it for television , and um we must have something special .	look and usability
-C	1693.49	Yeah , okay .	look and usability
-D	1696.19	So Uh .	look and usability
-B	1700.91	But we lose about ninety percent of those options .	look and usability
-B	1704.85	So I think you can uh Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1706.94	We have to give our customers some extras .	look and usability
-C	1710.21	Yeah , okay .	look and usability
-B	1710.45	I think we will save money with that .	look and usability
-A	1712.76	Okay .	look and usability
-A	1713.03	Are you almost finished or just Okay .	look and usability
-C	1714.77	Yeah , the the personal preference , I didn't fill it out .	look and usability
-C	1717.87	Because I was short on time .	look and usability
-A	1718.69	Okay .	look and usability
-A	1719.2	No worry .	look and usability
-C	1719.78	But um Basically what we could do too is uh have a Bluetooth uh integration .	look and usability
-A	1727.72	Yeah , I just want to talk some about some more .	industrial designer presentation
-A	1729.47	So maybe you have to Yeah ?	industrial designer presentation
-C	1730.19	Yeah ?	industrial designer presentation
-C	1730.65	Okay .	industrial designer presentation
-A	1730.95	Okay .	industrial designer presentation
-A	1742.85	So this Oh , sorry .	new requirements
-A	1745.7	Wh what's that ?	new requirements
-A	1752.42	So uh Oh , sorry .	new requirements
-A	1755.09	We have some new uh project requirements .	new requirements
-A	1756.85	We have to have a look what they are .	new requirements
-A	1757.85	They're still in um Uh teletext has become outdated since the popularity of internet .	new requirements
-A	1767.38	So a teletext option , maybe we have to skip that one .	new requirements
-A	1771.56	I'm not sure .	new requirements
-A	1772.19	I don't think so , but Yeah , and it's it's on your comp it's on your television .	new requirements
-C	1772.33	No , and I I think a lot of people use uh teletext , still use .	new requirements
-D	1772.53	No .	new requirements
-A	1777.04	It's only one button .	new requirements
-A	1777.91	So I don't think it is We definitely should use it .	new requirements
-D	1778.2	Uh .	new requirements
-B	1778.42	Yeah .	new requirements
-C	1779.06	Hmm .	new requirements
-A	1781.03	Um Yeah , that's uh what I told you .	new requirements
-A	1784.29	The remote control should only be used for a television .	new requirements
-A	1786.39	So that's maybe easier .	new requirements
-A	1789.0	And um the the forty plus people , I already told you .	new requirements
-A	1796.83	Oh no , sorry .	new requirements
-A	1797.51	Oh , this is a problem .	new requirements
-A	1798.53	Oh sorry about that .	new requirements
-A	1800.8	The new product should reach a new market with customers are the younger than forty .	new requirements
-A	1805.21	So it should be flashy or just more interesting .	new requirements
-D	1807.16	Okay .	new requirements
-C	1807.24	Oh .	new requirements
-B	1808.28	Okay , that's It changes things .	new requirements
-C	1808.4	Mm .	new requirements
-A	1809.13	I'm sorry about that .	new requirements
-A	1809.75	I just I just didn't read it well .	new requirements
-A	1812.88	So does it make some decision about that ?	look and usability
-D	1814.82	Changes .	look and usability
-B	1816.97	Um Well yeah , then we have to make some nice features .	look and usability
-C	1817.2	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1817.52	That kinda changes the whole situation .	look and usability
-D	1818.42	Uh L_C_D_ doesn't work for uh twelve and a half Euros I think .	look and usability
-B	1823.48	I think uh the thing in the dark is a good way , to make it more like a mobile phone .	look and usability
-A	1828.49	That still stays .	look and usability
-A	1830.5	Yeah .	look and usability
-B	1830.62	More modern .	look and usability
-C	1831.71	Yeah .	look and usability
-B	1832.94	That's important I think and And I d I don't don't think it's very usable in a remote control , especially when you only have T_V_ functions on it .	look and usability
-D	1843.79	Oh .	look and usability
-A	1845.63	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1845.72	Mm ah I I don't y you'll use it often , because you can see on the television wh what channel you No .	look and usability
-B	1845.97	So Yeah , I tho I think that's not usable .	look and usability
-D	1851.81	Oh , I'm watching uh the channel one .	look and usability
-D	1854.7	Okay .	look and usability
-D	1856.09	No , it's not But uh some of you had uh something to read about um uh speech uh recognition .	look and usability
-B	1859.47	So , but uh Yeah .	look and usability
-B	1861.26	What other features can we put in ?	look and usability
-C	1864.23	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1865.62	I think you you have to make it a bit flashy and and popular .	look and usability
-C	1871.44	And uh then the usability is not that required , because the Like in the mobile phones , usability is not that good I think .	look and usability
-D	1885.94	About you said one and the television turns on one .	look and usability
-D	1888.55	Is that reachable maybe ?	look and usability
-D	1890.8	That's very That's fancy .	look and usability
-C	1891.14	I didn't read I didn't read any b Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1892.1	That's cool .	look and usability
-B	1892.82	It's very fashion .	look and usability
-D	1893.38	Twelve and you've got twelve .	look and usability
-C	1895.31	Yeah okay .	look and usability
-B	1896.8	Mm .	look and usability
-D	1896.84	Only the numbers , only numbers .	look and usability
-C	1897.06	I I know .	look and usability
-D	1898.42	Uh furthermore nothing .	look and usability
-D	1899.36	But only the numbers , one to twenty or something .	look and usability
-C	1902.33	Mm .	look and usability
-D	1902.49	That should be cool .	look and usability
-A	1903.44	Yeah , maybe we have to integrate that as well .	look and usability
-A	1906.37	If it's possible .	look and usability
-D	1907.39	If it's possible , I dunno .	look and usability
-A	1907.69	But I don't think it's very expensive actually .	look and usability
-C	1908.29	Yeah , I don't know .	look and usability
-D	1908.64	I didn't read it .	look and usability
-B	1909.61	Mm .	look and usability
-A	1911.04	Why should it ?	look and usability
-D	1911.55	Uh if i if i I didn't have information about that .	look and usability
-B	1911.59	Yeah , I think it's What But uh I dunno how that works then .	look and usability
-A	1912.14	You only have a microphone in it .	look and usability
-C	1913.63	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1914.46	But it has to work .	look and usability
-C	1915.69	And and and does it have to work only in English , or in Dutch too or And and uh w Yeah ?	look and usability
-A	1919.54	Nah , maybe Maybe maybe it's too hard to uh to realise that .	look and usability
-D	1920.33	Ah that's a problem , but Uh only in English .	look and usability
-D	1924.12	Only in English I think .	look and usability
-B	1926.29	Uh does your uh Does it lie in the centre of the room and can you scream from wherever uh one to have in channel one ?	look and usability
-C	1927.66	Yeah , it's probably my job to figure that out , but And and do you have to speak in in like in a thing or Yeah , I dunno .	look and usability
-D	1933.02	No , that Yeah , then th we have to think about that .	look and usability
-D	1936.35	But do do we do it ?	look and usability
-D	1937.81	It's more if we if we do it .	look and usability
-B	1938.11	Yeah , I dunno .	look and usability
-B	1938.94	So , is it very usable ?	look and usability
-B	1941.02	That's what I'm looking at .	look and usability
-D	1944.85	Yeah .	look and usability
-B	1946.53	Is Mm Yeah well It's I d Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1949.02	It We have short time to to put it on the market , so that We have to do a lot of testing before we can do that .	look and usability
-D	1952.44	Okay .	look and usability
-C	1955.78	Yeah , I think so .	look and usability
-A	1956.95	We make uh make uh , we can make th th the new remote control very flashy .	look and usability
-D	1956.97	Yeah , and uh and uh In uh indeed uh the languages are a difficult thing .	look and usability
-D	1962.64	Uh because we we have a lot of languages .	look and usability
-A	1963.34	Yeah .	look and usability
-B	1964.44	I don't think it's uh useful enough to take the effort to design something with uh speech recognition .	look and usability
-C	1964.92	And and Yeah , and also if if you have a good speech uh speech recognition , you can just throw the uh the remote away .	look and usability
-A	1972.55	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1972.93	I think so .	look and usability
-D	1977.52	Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1979.2	A uh someone says that uh give me one Coke , and the T_V_ turns uh to one .	look and usability
-C	1982.52	Mm .	look and usability
-C	1983.27	Hmm .	look and usability
-C	1984.17	Mm .	look and usability
-D	1984.33	Yeah , it's not uh Okay , but th that becomes your f Uh uh because that's very hard for uh speech recognition .	look and usability
-B	1984.86	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1985.1	Yeah , okay .	look and usability
-B	1985.28	Well yeah , that's the right command .	look and usability
-B	1986.6	And then you have to say uh T_V_ channel one , or something .	look and usability
-C	1986.61	But Hmm yeah , T_V_ one .	look and usability
-B	1990.89	Not just one , but Well I dunno .	look and usability
-C	1998.61	Yeah .	look and usability
-B	1999.05	But I don't think , it just ain't useful enough .	look and usability
-D	2002.7	Mm-hmm .	look and usability
-A	2003.11	So we have to make some decisions .	look and usability
-A	2004.52	So you can see on the uh So we have to know what we're going to put on .	look and usability
-D	2004.81	Okay , no speech recognition .	look and usability
-A	2009.65	Do we , do we make uh a light under the under the n under the numbers and everything ?	look and usability
-A	2014.13	Do If you press something , it lights up for a few seconds , so you can see what other but buttons there are , okay ?	look and usability
-B	2014.13	Yeah , I think so .	look and usability
-C	2020.61	Yeah , that's good .	look and usability
-B	2021.41	Yep .	look and usability
-A	2021.55	Okay , we just take that one .	look and usability
-A	2023.67	And what else , we have Yeah , but it's Oh th I thought would , that that would be the same .	look and usability
-B	2024.76	Also the one in the dark .	look and usability
-B	2026.14	So uh It lights up when it's dark ?	look and usability
-B	2029.76	I didn't Okay .	look and usability
-A	2032.45	If you push something , it it all lights up .	look and usability
-D	2033.13	Yeah .	look and usability
-D	2033.75	Yeah yeah , it it mustn't work all the time .	look and usability
-B	2033.91	Yeah , but um Yes , that's what I mean .	look and usability
-D	2036.44	It uh uh it have to work only when you use it .	look and usability
-D	2038.96	So if you No , if you use one button , it must turn uh on for twenty seconds , and then it must turn off .	look and usability
-A	2039.26	Or you can switch it on or something .	look and usability
-B	2041.08	Or maybe when you yeah .	look and usability
-B	2043.5	It lights up all .	look and usability
-A	2044.56	Yeah , that's right .	look and usability
-A	2045.27	You have to Yeah , that's right .	look and usability
-A	2046.52	That's what I said .	look and usability
-B	2046.82	Okay yeah .	look and usability
-A	2047.04	It's the same as the telephone .	look and usability
-B	2047.32	D Yeah , alright .	look and usability
-A	2048.46	Yeah .	look and usability
-B	2048.83	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	2051.25	And do we use a a Uh what's it called ?	look and usability
-A	2055.23	Like a iMac , if you can look through it .	look and usability
-A	2058.59	Or just a normal remote control .	look and usability
-B	2060.52	Maybe just as an option , w like we discussed , like iPod .	look and usability
-C	2060.55	Mm , maybe it's a good idea .	look and usability
-B	2064.45	Different colours , uh maybe use even different fonts .	look and usability
-A	2067.72	Yeah .	look and usability
-D	2067.74	Oh yeah .	look and usability
-B	2068.2	Like uh phones .	look and usability
-A	2069.54	Different colours .	look and usability
-A	2070.25	Okay , so y you just make it th through You look through it ?	look and usability
-C	2070.54	Hmm .	look and usability
-D	2070.86	A see-through .	look and usability
-D	2072.05	Mm , that's cool .	look and usability
-B	2072.54	Yeah .	look and usability
-B	2073.08	Uh as an option maybe .	look and usability
-A	2073.09	Okay .	look and usability
-A	2075.39	And so the buttons we have , this is , yeah , this is normal .	look and usability
-A	2078.85	We put in the the simple buttons on the top , and probably the the the more complicated buttons down there .	look and usability
-B	2079.44	It's the standard Yeah , uh Yeah , we but we don't We don't really have any complicated buttons .	look and usability
-D	2083.48	But you have You had a lot of different buttons .	look and usability
-C	2086.05	Hmm .	look and usability
-A	2086.91	Yeah , maybe you have you have to Uh when you use teletec teletext , you can press a green or a red button to go to the next one , or to go to the previous one .	look and usability
-B	2093.82	Yeah okay , but Yeah , well w I think the buttons are very easy .	look and usability
-B	2098.98	With just uh standard buttons we just have so little No , I don't need don't need Uh teletext options are only four buttons or something .	look and usability
-A	2101.7	O but maybe you can put um the g the options of teletext on the second level of the remote control .	look and usability
-A	2107.82	Because you ne almost never use it .	look and usability
-C	2113.67	Yeah , but younger people I think um more often use the internet and elderly people often use teletext .	look and usability
-A	2122.71	Yeah , that's right .	look and usability
-C	2122.79	So uh Hmm .	look and usability
-B	2122.9	I use teletext as well .	look and usability
-D	2123.04	No , I use te teletext every day , I think .	look and usability
-C	2126.28	Okay .	look and usability
-A	2126.44	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	2126.93	For me too , it is .	look and usability
-A	2128.57	So we just keep it one level then ?	look and usability
-B	2130.21	Yeah yeah , one level .	look and usability
-A	2130.62	Okay .	look and usability
-D	2130.85	Mm .	look and usability
-B	2131.13	And I think , uh 'cause um we don't have that many buttons , I think the design is most important .	look and usability
-C	2136.99	Yeah .	look and usability
-B	2137.03	You can d uh integrate the buttons in the design very much .	look and usability
-A	2140.78	Yeah .	look and usability
-B	2140.9	'Cause simple buttons .	look and usability
-B	2142.16	If you put one above it , it's clear .	look and usability
-A	2142.47	Okay .	look and usability
-A	2144.36	Okay .	look and usability
-A	2146.77	So that's it for toda for We're going to have a lunch lunch break .	closing
-A	2153.87	Um So yeah , you know what you have to do .	closing
-B	2156.67	How long is lunch break ?	closing
-A	2161.13	This is uh this is it .	closing
-A	2163.58	You get your meal and everything , so Yeah .	closing
-D	2165.32	Trendwatching .	closing
-D	2166.4	Okay .	closing
-D	2167.76	That's fine .	closing
-D	2175.89	Yo .	closing
-A	2179.9	So , we're finished for t for this time .	closing
-A	2182.06	We're going to have some lunch .	closing
-B	2183.37	Okay .	closing
-B	2193.37	Bye .	closing
-A	2203.1	Yeah .	closing
-C	2203.12	Yeah .	closing
-D	2207.82	Mm .	closing
-D	2208.89	Uh .	closing

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-D	46.06	Bonjour .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	46.07	It's It won't wake up .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	51.2	Yeah .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	51.38	I was a bit early .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	52.56	Like What ?	agenda/equipment issues
-D	56.81	Why ?	agenda/equipment issues
-B	57.61	No , I just came in .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	58.66	Uh normally I was one of them .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	61.38	Okay .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	63.89	Come on .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	64.32	Check check check check .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	64.71	Hello .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	66.45	Why won't it wake up ?	agenda/equipment issues
-A	66.58	Oop .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	78.2	Is it on ?	agenda/equipment issues
-D	87.57	The power light doesn't work .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	90.3	You turned it off .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	92.08	But how ?	agenda/equipment issues
-B	94.96	Ah , there it is .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	96.04	Okay .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	97.9	Okay .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	98.79	Uh .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	99.44	I received an email with uh a few possibilities on uh the materials .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	105.46	So I'll discuss them with you .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	106.88	Okay , we're just going to the later .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	107.27	Okay .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	108.47	Yeah .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	112.29	Yeah , I received an email as well .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	113.65	So we're going to talk about the conceptual model .	opening
-D	115.74	Oh .	opening
-D	130.85	Hmm .	opening
-B	131.68	Which one was mine ?	opening
-A	133.43	So that's me .	opening
-A	135.95	Uh okay .	opening
-A	137.23	So Uh okay .	opening
-A	141.21	Okay , so I just show you the m the no mm mm the the the the the the minutes , minute .	opening
-A	150.02	What's it called , I dunno .	opening
-A	151.61	Whatever .	opening
-B	155.27	The minutes .	opening
-A	170.38	Okay , so we just talked about uh Oh you want me to show that there or Okay , we just talked about it looks .	opening
-D	175.01	Uh Shall I start ?	marketing expert presentation opening
-B	175.42	No , just tell us .	opening
-C	175.42	Mm no .	opening
-A	177.59	Has to look nice .	opening
-A	178.55	Usability is very important .	opening
-A	180.49	People don't want to spend money on something that's similar to cheaper ones .	opening
-A	186.88	Um It has to be very basic , not too many buttons .	opening
-A	193.44	Light switches on if you use a button .	opening
-A	196.57	Uh text T_V_ still has to be a possibility .	opening
-A	201.17	And it has to be easy to learn .	opening
-A	204.42	That were the things I uh make minutes of .	opening
-A	209.31	And the functions are volume , channel to choose channels , an on-off , a mute uh button , and a text T_V_ button .	opening
-A	215.51	That are the functions .	opening
-A	216.99	That right ?	opening
-C	217.75	Yeah .	opening
-B	218.21	Yes .	opening
-A	218.5	Okay .	opening
-A	219.6	So I just want to give you uh Mike again , the first uh presentation of your Yeah .	marketing expert presentation
-D	236.6	No .	marketing expert presentation
-D	239.41	Okay well I received an email Okay .	marketing expert presentation
-D	254.42	I searched the web , uh and uh I searched uh on this d document , recent investigation of the remote control market .	marketing expert presentation
-D	263.35	It has been done in Italy uh Italy and in uh another country in Europe , I forget it .	marketing expert presentation
-D	271.86	Uh but uh they found out the most important aspect for remote controls happens to be a fancy look-and-feel , instead of the current functional look and feel .	user requirements
-D	280.41	So it's very important for us to create something new .	user requirements
-D	283.45	So what Michael just said , it must be uh some very different from ordinary uh remote controls .	user requirements
-D	290.14	Fancy stands for an original look-and-feel of the case and interface .	user requirements
-D	296.23	Uh this uh aspect is the most important one .	user requirements
-D	298.81	Uh it came out of the research .	user requirements
-D	300.96	It uh is twice important as the following .	user requirements
-D	304.2	The second uh most important aspect is that a remote control should it uh technological innovative .	user requirements
-D	311.03	Uh that stands for uh uh new technical uh features .	user requirements
-D	314.99	And then uh that uh This is a point of discussion , because we just decided that we don't make use of uh L_C_D_ or uh speech recognition .	user requirements
-B	326.52	Hmm .	user requirements
-D	326.65	But um this is the second uh important uh aspect , and I think uh we must use some of the new technology , to be uh innovative .	user requirements
-A	338.27	But we already have the flashing flashing light on the Okay .	user requirements
-D	340.64	Uh maybe maybe something new .	user requirements
-B	341.48	Yeah , more .	user requirements
-D	342.69	We have to discuss about it s uh Okay , uh features not uh do not exist in current remote controls .	user requirements
-C	342.79	Hmm .	user requirements
-B	343.98	Well , I'll I'll get back on it .	user requirements
-D	350.5	And that's very hard I think .	user requirements
-D	353.08	Uh the third one is the aspect of the remote control should be easy to use .	user requirements
-D	357.15	But uh that was an overall uh point .	user requirements
-D	360.1	We already discussed that .	user requirements
-D	362.4	Um I've got one picture .	user requirements
-D	366.08	Uh d our our target group uh we thought about was young and trendy .	user requirements
-A	370.09	Yeah .	user requirements
-D	370.76	So I took uh that part of the webpage .	user requirements
-D	374.3	And it says uh fashion-watchers of uh uh Pari uh France and uh Italy , yeah , uh have detected the following trends .	user requirements
-D	384.36	This trends I th uh trend I think it's not um that meaningful for us , maybe .	user requirements
-D	390.76	But it's about uh clothes and shoes .	user requirements
-D	394.42	But the uh the next uh aspect also in contrast to last year , the feel of material is expe uh uh is expected to be spongy .	user requirements
-A	394.77	Hmm .	user requirements
-B	402.78	Spongy .	user requirements
-D	402.83	But spongy , what what does spongy says ?	user requirements
-C	405.38	Spongy .	user requirements
-B	406.12	Spongy , like sponge .	user requirements
-D	406.36	Spongy .	user requirements
-D	408.77	Okay .	user requirements
-C	409.69	So rubber , kind of .	user requirements
-B	410.86	Uh soft materials .	user requirements
-C	412.13	Yeah .	user requirements
-A	412.36	But maybe th that's al definitely a good idea , because you've you're you drop y your remote control very often on the ground .	marketing expert presentation
-B	418.91	Yeah , but Yeah .	marketing expert presentation
-A	419.14	So it has to be flexible .	marketing expert presentation
-D	419.88	Yeah .	marketing expert presentation
-D	421.27	Yeah , it's something that uh it stand there .	marketing expert presentation
-D	423.19	But I didn't knew uh knew what it means .	marketing expert presentation
-D	425.91	So spongy means y Yeah .	marketing expert presentation
-C	427.89	It's like a sponge .	marketing expert presentation
-B	428.72	Soft , sponge .	marketing expert presentation
-D	430.45	So it's also a stress-ball .	marketing expert presentation
-A	432.68	That's a good That's a good idea .	marketing expert presentation
-C	432.98	Yeah , somewhat like Yeah , I've some uh material uh information , but I'll give you it later in my presentation .	marketing expert presentation
-A	433.89	If it's de like that .	marketing expert presentation
-A	435.01	That's good , a good idea .	marketing expert presentation
-B	435.12	Yeah , but Yeah .	marketing expert presentation
-B	436.25	How are you gonna make it ?	marketing expert presentation
-A	436.4	Is it a bit like like the the the the remote control ?	marketing expert presentation
-A	441.31	R_ soft .	marketing expert presentation
-D	442.0	Uh Okay ?	marketing expert presentation
-A	446.87	Okay .	marketing expert presentation
-D	450.26	What do I think ?	marketing expert presentation
-D	451.97	Uh because a fancy look is the most important thing uh for remote control uh control , I think about changeable fronts .	marketing expert presentation
-A	460.08	Yeah .	marketing expert presentation
-D	460.11	Uh maybe a see-through one in a a fruit front .	marketing expert presentation
-D	463.86	Because it's uh it's hot .	marketing expert presentation
-D	465.84	And uh some basic uh colour fronts .	marketing expert presentation
-D	469.84	Uh so we can make uh five different fronts to start with or something .	marketing expert presentation
-D	474.64	Uh maybe an extraordinary shape , like a sponge .	marketing expert presentation
-D	479.49	Uh or uh , yeah , just another shape than a normal uh remote control ha uh has .	marketing expert presentation
-D	484.32	Just uh something round in it , or uh maybe not uh not uh Yeah , I dun dunno .	marketing expert presentation
-B	484.57	Yeah .	marketing expert presentation
-D	491.05	We have to discuss about that .	marketing expert presentation
-D	492.87	Uh y yeah .	marketing expert presentation
-D	494.16	Main point uh still uh is the technolo technological innovative .	marketing expert presentation
-D	500.08	Yeah , how do we do that ?	marketing expert presentation
-D	501.35	Maybe speech ?	marketing expert presentation
-D	502.85	We ma must have some kind of gadget .	marketing expert presentation
-B	505.21	Yeah , I'll get back on that .	marketing expert presentation
-D	507.88	So Intro Yeah .	project budget marketing expert presentation
-C	507.89	Hmm .	marketing expert presentation
-A	509.36	It's very uh difficult to to to do it .	project budget
-A	512.8	Because it's only twelve and a half Euros you have to spend on every remote control .	project budget
-D	514.78	Yeah , that's the problem .	project budget
-B	515.03	Well , I got f also an email from the the technology department .	project budget
-D	515.93	That's the main problem .	project budget
-D	519.06	So Maybe we watch the first uh the next two presentations .	project budget
-B	522.01	They have done uh research about it , and uh even more possibilities now with speech .	project budget
-B	528.25	So they recommended using it .	project budget
-A	531.7	Okay .	project budget
-B	532.01	Well I'll check what they exact mean .	project budget
-C	532.27	Hmm .	project budget
-D	532.27	Okay .	project budget
-D	533.13	Uh let's first watch Paul's presentation first then .	project budget
-B	537.12	So uh Yeah , th that's the only problem .	project budget
-C	537.88	Yeah , well actually we have don't have an idea how much it's gonna cost .	project budget
-C	541.27	But maybe it's cheap and it's easy to implement .	project budget
-B	543.96	I d They don't say how much it will cost , so Um but uh if we implement uh speech recognition , I think it would be better to implement L_C_D_ as well .	project budget
-D	549.09	Oh .	project budget
-D	550.04	It's mass production .	project budget
-D	551.1	So you can say , you can Yeah .	project budget
-B	556.71	Since you have to uh configure speech thing .	project budget
-A	558.83	But that's definitely more expensive than Yeah , but a telephone Okay , yeah .	project budget
-B	560.92	Yeah , that's that's something I dunno .	project budget
-D	564.13	But how uh we we're gonna make many of those .	project budget
-D	566.35	So we can start a mass production , and then the cost will still will be .	project budget
-A	572.71	But a telephone also have a L_C_D_ and and it's about t two hundred Euros .	project budget
-B	574.79	Yeah , so uh we gotta de We have to decide on that .	project budget
-A	577.57	So uh Yeah , just modern modern but still uh basic .	look and usability project budget
-D	578.58	Yeah .	project budget
-D	580.54	Okay .	project budget
-D	583.03	That was this ?	project budget
-B	585.25	Mm uh L_D_C_ doesn't require Okay .	project budget
-C	586.13	Oh I got an email uh And it says uh the chip can be uh simple , regular or advanced .	project budget
-C	596.32	And Um They say uh a display requires an advanced chip .	project budget
-C	606.24	And this is more expensive than all the other chips .	project budget
-C	610.22	So it's m the most expensive .	project budget
-C	613.92	Yeah , it says in the email .	project budget
-C	615.4	The display requires an advanced chip .	project budget
-B	618.54	And speech recognition ?	project budget
-C	620.84	Yeah , probably too .	project budget
-B	621.99	Advanced .	project budget
-C	622.28	I I haven't got anything about speech recognition , but Well it d That's that's the most expensive chip , we need .	project budget
-B	622.77	Yeah .	project budget
-B	627.78	I'll I'll give you my design .	project budget
-C	632.52	If we're doing uh if we're doing a display .	project budget
-B	633.85	Yeah okay .	project budget
-B	634.24	So we Well we can I had uh to make a sort of a design .	interface specialist presentation
-B	651.9	So I did some searching on the internet .	interface specialist presentation
-B	654.89	I watched the old remote controls and news com remote como uh remote controls .	interface specialist presentation
-B	660.15	I think we should um This is one of the modern remote controls of the moment .	look and usability
-B	665.62	I think we should go more to the iPod and M_P_ three players .	look and usability
-B	670.95	Mobile phones .	look and usability
-B	672.41	More modern .	look and usability
-B	672.94	Y yes .	look and usability
-B	674.34	Um you probably have to make it a bit bigger and a bit smaller .	look and usability
-B	678.79	'Cause remote con control , you can see it here , you have to bo reach both out both sides .	look and usability
-B	684.15	And here you just have one , few buttons .	look and usability
-B	687.07	So that's that's the main difference .	look and usability
-B	689.41	But looks uh I definitely think we should go like this .	look and usability
-B	694.15	And then changeable fonts , so It's the most important part , I think .	look and usability
-C	697.67	Hmm .	look and usability
-B	700.82	But And the home base is something like that , something simple .	look and usability
-B	706.23	Well and then I just ordered the the buttons a bit .	look and usability
-B	709.2	Uh basic buttons .	look and usability
-B	710.17	On-off , mute .	look and usability
-B	712.34	And th maybe two others , I dunno .	look and usability
-A	714.77	Yeah , maybe the teletext tel No .	look and usability
-B	714.79	Text buttons .	look and usability
-B	716.27	Yeah , text button , maybe there and there .	look and usability
-B	717.69	And then the colour buttons , if we want it on .	look and usability
-B	720.68	I don't find it very usable , but it's Uh I don't think it's fits in the the modern theme as well .	look and usability
-D	722.33	No , I don't uh I don't like it .	look and usability
-C	726.96	Hmm .	look and usability
-B	727.23	So and then yeah we saw the the pla display , in the the iPod .	look and usability
-B	732.24	They can put the basic buttons , one , two , three , four .	look and usability
-B	735.61	And uh f above ten .	look and usability
-B	738.37	And I think No no .	look and usability
-C	738.39	But it That's on on the display .	look and usability
-B	741.21	That th there is no display there .	look and usability
-B	742.73	But it's on the place of the display .	look and usability
-B	744.79	And I think we should uh light this up much more than that part .	look and usability
-B	749.6	So the focus is on these two parts .	look and usability
-A	749.79	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	753.2	Yeah .	look and usability
-B	753.64	So you don't see all the buttons you else need .	look and usability
-A	756.02	But it sounds very difficult to use .	look and usability
-A	757.46	Because um the volume and channel is on the on the the bottom of it .	look and usability
-B	762.06	Uh well um This is how it is now .	look and usability
-A	763.04	So you can't use your thumb for it .	look and usability
-B	769.23	Um Here uh Well we have volume .	look and usability
-C	774.56	I think it is on uh on the bottom too .	look and usability
-A	774.82	Yeah , down there .	look and usability
-A	776.82	But it's not not the best best .	look and usability
-B	777.51	Yeah .	look and usability
-B	778.11	Well here we have also side scrolls .	look and usability
-B	781.49	I dunno if we can use that .	look and usability
-C	781.7	Yeah , okay .	look and usability
-A	782.97	Yeah , for volume .	look and usability
-B	783.0	Do we want to use For volume ?	look and usability
-C	783.0	Yeah , I've I've got something of that uh too .	look and usability
-A	784.48	For volume , or a channel .	look and usability
-A	785.8	Yeah , why not .	look and usability
-B	786.37	Well then we can even simplify it more .	look and usability
-C	787.03	Scroll .	look and usability
-B	790.7	By just putting the volume on the side .	look and usability
-B	793.22	And and just channel buttons here .	look and usability
-A	793.34	And the channels as well .	look and usability
-A	795.42	Oh yeah .	look and usability
-C	796.6	Yeah , or uh maybe uh The channel buttons are often used .	look and usability
-B	796.62	But I think uh Well .	look and usability
-C	800.32	And you can't use them now with your thumb , because the thing is not , it's not easy to control .	look and usability
-B	805.33	Yeah , well it's Basically it's it's here .	look and usability
-C	811.54	Yeah okay , m maybe we cho should put that on top , and buttons we we don't use on , in the bottom .	look and usability
-A	815.17	Yeah , that's better .	look and usability
-B	816.68	They're on top ?	look and usability
-A	817.82	Yeah , just th th th other buttons like text T_V_ .	look and usability
-A	821.17	Put that on the button bottom .	look and usability
-C	823.99	Because uh you can't hold it .	look and usability
-B	824.53	You mean uh these to the low ?	look and usability
-C	825.7	You can't hold it th the control and push the buttons .	look and usability
-A	826.07	Mm-hmm .	look and usability
-A	826.76	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	828.36	Except from the on-off button .	look and usability
-B	831.04	Oh okay .	look and usability
-B	831.69	Well , yeah .	look and usability
-C	832.88	But I I think w you'll use uh the switch channels buttons uh more often than the normal uh channel buttons , like one two three .	look and usability
-C	842.81	So maybe we can put that on the bottom .	look and usability
-B	843.33	Mm Maybe .	look and usability
-B	845.89	I dunno , but yeah we'll Yeah , maybe it's not easy if it's below .	look and usability
-C	849.78	Like zapping is just switching one channel at a time .	look and usability
-B	854.17	It's harder to zap .	look and usability
-B	856.05	So I think uh it should be should be easy to .	look and usability
-B	861.7	I think it's pretty standard , these rubber buttons on the top .	look and usability
-C	865.22	Yeah okay .	look and usability
-C	865.81	That's that's good , but Yeah okay .	look and usability
-B	865.97	And uh if you don't light 'em up , they don't uh you don't see 'em very good .	look and usability
-B	871.71	I think it's modern to light this area up , and to light this area up .	look and usability
-B	876.21	So the focus gets on these parts and not on there .	look and usability
-B	882.08	But uh the position of course can be different .	look and usability
-B	884.25	It's s We have to look uh what's easy to use , and how it's easier to use .	look and usability
-C	887.5	Yeah .	look and usability
-B	888.52	So we can uh switch these to I dunno if it l will look good , if you put those on t on the bottom half .	look and usability
-C	890.91	Hmm .	look and usability
-C	896.69	No , I think th the the top buttons are okay .	look and usability
-B	900.14	Okay .	look and usability
-C	900.21	They sh Those should be on top .	look and usability
-B	901.29	Yeah , maybe Those two , yeah .	look and usability
-C	901.34	But uh we we can switch those two , yeah .	look and usability
-B	904.17	And uh , yeah , you have to make sure it's easy to uh Yes , it has to be big enough so you can hold it , right .	look and usability
-D	909.95	Okay .	look and usability
-B	912.05	Well that's that's my findings .	look and usability
-B	913.37	So uh my personal opinion is that we should go more modern look .	look and usability
-B	916.57	M_P_ three player .	look and usability
-B	918.32	And uh well um if we want to put in speech rec recognition or something , we I don't think we should put it on top then .	look and usability
-B	928.49	I think that , if we're gonna put in more technology , that you need to be able to uh switch it open .	look and usability
-C	935.48	Yeah .	look and usability
-B	935.52	To use So if you put in uh speech recognition , you need so more uh many more buttons .	look and usability
-A	935.65	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	935.96	Yeah , that's cool .	look and usability
-B	942.55	Which won't look good on the front side I think .	look and usability
-A	945.55	Okay .	look and usability
-C	946.1	No .	look and usability
-B	948.21	So that's something we have to decide on .	look and usability
-C	950.43	Yeah , we have to keep it simple .	look and usability
-B	952.4	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	952.58	We have to decide this this lecture , or this this this uh fifty minutes , yeah , how it is gonna look .	look and usability
-B	955.76	What we're gonna do .	look and usability
-B	956.88	Okay .	look and usability
-C	977.5	Okay , the component design .	industrial designer presentation
-C	982.5	I looked at uh some similar devices , and uh my own common knowledge .	industrial designer presentation
-C	989.44	So uh this was on the web site .	look and usability
-C	992.34	If you aim at a young public , you should use materials that are soft with primary colours like green , blue , red .	look and usability
-C	1001.64	So flashy kinda colours .	look and usability
-C	1005.19	Uh shapes should be curved , so round shapes .	look and usability
-C	1009.69	Not Nothing square-like .	look and usability
-A	1011.63	Okay , so Hmm , okay .	look and usability
-B	1014.49	Yeah well uh iPod is trendy .	look and usability
-B	1017.35	And it is well curved square .	look and usability
-C	1017.39	Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1019.4	Square .	look and usability
-D	1019.95	Like .	look and usability
-C	1020.77	Yeah , but mm is uh has round corners I think .	look and usability
-B	1022.86	Okay .	look and usability
-B	1023.38	So not Yeah okay .	look and usability
-C	1023.68	So we shouldn't have too square corners and that kind of thing .	look and usability
-B	1027.61	Not uh the old uh box look .	look and usability
-C	1029.18	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1031.11	And um sports and gaming device style characteristics .	look and usability
-C	1036.4	I don't know exactly what that means , but it should be , well yeah , popular kind of looking , I think .	look and usability
-D	1044.2	Mm .	look and usability
-A	1044.62	Yeah , we have to put our Real Reaction logo as well on the on the remote control .	look and usability
-C	1049.16	Okay .	look and usability
-B	1050.99	Mm Yeah , it's Black yellow control .	look and usability
-A	1051.22	So the colours also .	look and usability
-A	1052.27	So we have ha to ma make it in black , black , yellow .	look and usability
-C	1055.8	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1058.02	Maybe the sides in yellow and the the the top in black .	look and usability
-C	1058.44	Yeah , mm n Not that weird , because we definitely want to make it kind of flashy , to attract a young public .	look and usability
-B	1068.25	Yeah , but uh I don't think the the colours black and yellow go well together .	look and usability
-B	1073.16	But Yeah , okay .	look and usability
-C	1074.08	No , okay .	look and usability
-A	1074.15	We make i Maybe you can put yellow on the side and black on the on the front .	look and usability
-C	1074.78	That's a that's a sen That's just a matter of tastes , but We have to use uh kind of flashy colours , I think .	look and usability
-B	1083.33	Uh can't we use um different uh fron uh fronts , with all with the the logo on it ?	look and usability
-C	1090.49	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1090.56	Yeah , it's cool .	look and usability
-B	1090.66	Can we do that ?	look and usability
-A	1091.38	Yep .	look and usability
-C	1091.9	Like fronts in in red and yellow and blue and Okay .	look and usability
-B	1091.94	So Yes .	look and usability
-A	1092.46	And still trans Still still transparent .	look and usability
-D	1094.78	Oh yeah .	look and usability
-B	1095.16	So Yeah .	look and usability
-B	1097.54	But with all with logo on it .	look and usability
-A	1099.56	Okay .	look and usability
-C	1101.03	Well this is a remote control , a very old one .	look and usability
-C	1105.57	Um Then the components .	look and usability
-C	1109.98	The case has just a Here's black .	look and usability
-C	1113.96	But we are making it uh Yeah , I dunno .	look and usability
-A	1114.29	Yeah , we make it som Maybe we have to make it from soft material .	look and usability
-A	1117.02	Uh I'm not sure .	look and usability
-B	1119.69	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1120.93	Maybe .	look and usability
-C	1123.67	But anyways uh it should be transparent .	look and usability
-C	1125.42	We decided that , huh ?	look and usability
-B	1127.14	Well one of the options .	look and usability
-C	1127.22	S Okay .	look and usability
-B	1128.87	You can Just like a mobile phone , you can make um different fronts on it .	look and usability
-B	1134.28	So you can just replace them I think .	look and usability
-C	1136.79	Yeah , we could do that .	look and usability
-B	1137.24	That was the idea , or just uh release one .	look and usability
-A	1138.63	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1139.28	Just give five with them , just in a box .	look and usability
-A	1142.73	Five different Yeah .	look and usability
-B	1142.77	Yeah , uh Or just uh sell different ones .	look and usability
-C	1143.56	Yeah , but y you could you could make 'em uh uh like blue and transparent .	look and usability
-C	1148.92	So you can still th look through it .	look and usability
-B	1149.7	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1149.89	Cool .	look and usability
-B	1150.18	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1151.75	Um the buttons .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1153.79	Normal rubber I think .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1155.4	Like normal ordinary buttons .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1157.44	Yeah , I uh I dunno .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1157.54	Soft .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1158.15	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1158.49	A more Yeah , just uh I think uh rubber really has an odd look .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1158.79	It it could be like a Nokia , like plastic .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1161.23	Uh uh Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1162.02	With the hard hard buttons .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1162.35	That's better prob Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1166.12	Okay .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1166.28	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1167.46	The the the new uh new modern uh remote controls , uh the buttons are part of the uh the style , I think is part of the remote control itself .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1178.13	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1178.3	It it's one uh a one uh out of one shape .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1182.49	Uh it's n doesn't Is uh a button uh um How do you say it ?	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1189.51	Yeah , it's it's all on one level .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1189.53	It it didn't it i it don't come out of the on the background .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1192.18	Yeah , on one level .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1193.54	It is in uh the c a remote control uh Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1195.1	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1196.5	Yeah , I know what you mean .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1199.62	So we have to keep it on the one level .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1201.57	Like th the top it's Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1202.16	Yeah , like mobile phones .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1203.59	Like uh the iPod .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1204.7	Uh just I dunno what uh kind of material it is .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1205.16	Yeah , okay .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1207.17	Okay , it's chos So that should be hard plastic .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1207.39	Yeah , that's cool .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1210.15	Then the buttons ?	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1212.25	I think .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1212.68	Or maybe Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1214.9	But Oops .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1215.55	But maybe you can m make a uh round fluff or soft material .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1219.59	Just only the basic uh basic remote control from normal plastic , and the rounds of it from softer s I dunno .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1225.81	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1228.65	Okay .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1229.39	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1230.15	And um Then the L_E_D_ .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1235.18	The normal infrared L_E_D_ I think s sufficient .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1241.8	And back light L_E_D_s .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1244.06	Y Cool .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1244.41	So But I think we have to make the case transparent , otherwise the back light won't work .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1244.88	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1250.28	So if you put Okay .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1250.71	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1250.75	Uh you can just make them around the buttons uh Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1251.02	Y i if you The numbers could be can be Yeah , that's right .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1255.42	Or it runs the whole Yeah , you can halfs transparent , or just that it's comes out a bit .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1257.26	Yeah , but we can still make it transparent .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1259.14	So Or no Yeah okay .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1259.92	They can choose .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1265.85	Good .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1266.64	And in green colour , the back lights or Yeah ?	look and usability
-B	1269.28	Different , I think , also .	look and usability
-A	1271.68	Blue .	look and usability
-B	1272.9	Blue or red .	look and usability
-D	1273.57	Yeah .	look and usability
-B	1273.98	Whatever you want it , I think .	look and usability
-B	1275.04	Uh depends on the colour of the Yeah , that's true .	look and usability
-A	1276.01	Yeah , but you can't choo You can't choose it when you buy it .	look and usability
-D	1277.03	Uh i Yeah , but can you change it if you already bought the the remote control ?	look and usability
-A	1278.68	You have to choose Is it Okay .	look and usability
-B	1279.62	But Yeah , it can .	look and usability
-C	1279.78	No , but I think there are multiple colour LEDs .	look and usability
-C	1283.77	So I I know I dunno .	look and usability
-C	1286.91	Is Maybe it's it's more impor more expensive .	look and usability
-D	1288.46	You Hmm .	look and usability
-B	1288.48	'Cause this a mo mib uh mobile phone as well .	look and usability
-A	1288.79	Yeah , okay .	look and usability
-A	1291.15	Maybe put some different ones in it .	look and usability
-A	1292.54	Doesn't matter .	look and usability
-C	1292.8	I think it's Yeah , I dunno .	look and usability
-A	1293.07	It's just No , just some LED .	look and usability
-B	1293.25	I have the mo mi I have a blinking light on my phone .	look and usability
-B	1296.18	And I can change the colour of it .	look and usability
-A	1297.77	Okay , cool .	look and usability
-A	1298.27	Just make it some different colours .	look and usability
-A	1299.45	Blue , red and green , or something .	look and usability
-C	1301.27	Maybe it's too expensive , but it I th I don't think so .	look and usability
-B	1303.12	Well , we don't put put in any fancier technology yet .	look and usability
-B	1307.02	So I'm sure we can fit in .	look and usability components, materials and energy sources
-C	1307.37	Then uh some more technical things .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1311.47	I don't know what it is , but it should be there I think .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1315.84	Um this is the normal circuit board , like a chip board in in a lot of uh things .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1323.62	Yeah , we have to hurry up a bit , so Okay .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1324.22	W So we d we just need this and this transistors and resonators .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1329.96	There's all these kind of things .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1332.19	Um they they basically said that that's almost the same on any uh remote controls .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1337.28	So I guess we j we just need that .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1340.27	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1340.55	I don't know what they do or Nah , but they just said we need it .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1343.04	Okay yeah , you can you can change Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1343.09	Yeah okay .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1343.54	We just Yeah , we have to make sure to uh Yes .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1345.9	No .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1350.57	Uh the battery contacts , like normal batteries ca you can put in .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1355.92	Yeah , a recharger maybe .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1357.58	Yeah okay .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1358.34	Yeah but Yeah , but it i We don't wanna have a ar an How do you call it ?	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1358.43	We still want to have a recharger , don't we ?	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1360.04	Is that still the A recha Oh no .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1360.41	Yes .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1365.51	Accu .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1367.61	Re recharger .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1368.0	Y uh just just batteries , rechargeable batteries .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1368.1	Uh Battery .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1368.41	Base station .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1368.83	It's just a battery .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1369.73	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1369.98	Yeah , batteries .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1370.93	Yes , rechargeable batteries , I think's best .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1371.7	Okay .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1372.82	Not a separate Okay .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1374.44	No , just rechargeable batteries .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1375.97	And uh a chip , that's this one .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1380.58	Then uh I received some possibilities .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1383.83	Um for the energy source we can use batteries or a kinetic uh Like with the pulse watch .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1392.06	So it operates on your wrist kinda .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1392.58	Ah cool .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1395.14	Okay .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1396.23	So if you hold it , it gets powered .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1396.49	If you hold it .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1396.69	But normally you put a remote control on the table or on the couch .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1399.05	Yeah , I don't think it will work , and Or we can also use solar cells .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1402.75	But you mostly use it indoors , so Yeah , and and we can use the home station kind of thing .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1403.35	It's dark in the room .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1404.41	No .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1404.89	It's just batteries , that's cheaper .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1409.01	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1409.83	Um cases , flat , so uncurved .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1414.84	Uh two D_ curved is um like front to the back .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1419.29	And three D_ curved is also in depth .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1421.86	Okay .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1423.35	So that's possible .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1426.96	Uh but with three D_ uh curved uh remote controls , we must use rubber buttons .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1433.87	So we can't use the flat buttons .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1434.2	Mm .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1435.32	So we need uh two D_ .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1437.36	Yeah , I think .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1437.47	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1438.7	Definitely .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1439.48	Um these kinda materials can be used .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1443.53	But it doesn't really matter , we just make it plastic .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1445.95	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1446.87	Yeah , I think so too .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1448.66	The scroll wheels , that's cool .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1449.69	That's for the volume .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1450.98	Yeah , scroll wheels um Yeah , that's good .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1453.4	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1456.94	We can use multiple scroll wheels , w if we want to .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1459.2	But I think just the volume is enough .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1459.58	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1461.57	Uh For channels it's not handy , because you scroll too fast .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1463.79	Okay .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1465.68	And uh the L_C_D_ .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1467.32	So we need uh the expensive , most expensive chip , if we use an L_C_D_ .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1467.75	Mm Uh but we have to do something about the trend .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1473.21	I don't think that's an opportunity .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1475.08	Just skip it .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1476.09	Because we don't have time for that to to put it in .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1477.73	Okay , then we we use m must use the second most expensive chip .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1482.29	So th so the regular chip .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1483.91	Because we use scroll wheels .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1485.63	Yeah , okay .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1486.12	Okay .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1487.0	And um Yeah , that was it I guess .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1490.76	Okay .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1492.07	Uh are are we using a a rubber case , or We haven't decided yet .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1495.37	Oh just sk Maybe you have to skip that one as well .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1497.59	It's No .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1497.88	Uh I don't think a rubber case looks Yeah , okay .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1499.16	L Yeah , i it it should be soft .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1501.62	You said so ?	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1502.85	The trend is uh spong spongy uh and uh fruit or fresh fresh .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1510.49	That Uh fruit and veg , or Yeah , fruit and veg can be just the covers .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1510.73	And uh now we have nothing about uh about those those two .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1516.12	Uh yeah i Just Just on front .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1517.04	So you can the the spongy yeah , I dunno .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1520.54	I can't imagine a soft remote control .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	1522.58	Neith uh I don't like it uh neither .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1525.48	No .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1526.02	I just can't imagine it .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1527.71	So just hard plastic ?	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1529.11	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1529.82	Okay .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1529.9	Yeah , I think .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1530.94	Titanium .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1532.44	It's mentioned here uh .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1533.4	Titanium , uh I think it's too expensive .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1535.41	But maybe the form has to be a bit different .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1537.62	Not the sh the square form .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1539.65	Just a bit more rounded .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1541.13	Yeah , you can make it curved or mm round .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1542.8	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1543.52	But just in two D_ , not in depth .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1545.13	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1546.61	Yeah , that's right .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1546.97	Okay .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1556.69	So We have to decide which one we're going to choose from these .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1564.03	What exactly .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1564.72	Because we have to know it .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1566.99	So the energy uh is the recharger .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1569.25	We already know that .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1569.98	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1570.19	Just a normal battery .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1570.41	We have batteries .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1571.58	Okay .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1573.57	The chip-on-print is a normal one .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1576.27	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1576.8	Regular .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1577.3	Okay , the case is just a plastic one .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1578.72	Yeah th yeah , the chip is the the regular one .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1580.52	Yeah , re Yeah , regular .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1580.76	You have the simple one , regular and advanced .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1581.95	Yeah , okay .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1582.75	So it's b should be regular uh the second .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1582.97	Yeah , regular .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1585.1	Okay .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1587.66	I think I'll just check it .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1588.56	And we need a plastic case , with a scroll wheel .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1594.63	Yes .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1595.85	That's pretty much it .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	1597.01	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	1599.5	User interface concept .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1599.63	And a flashy light .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	1605.67	So uh I'm not sure .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	1607.54	But we do I don't know if we expected to draw on this one at this moment .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	1611.01	But Yeah .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	1613.99	I dunno either .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	1615.33	Mm .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	1616.62	Or should we do it in the next meeting ?	agenda/equipment issues
-B	1617.07	Uh I_D_ and U_I_D_ work together on prototype drawing on smart board .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	1622.23	So we should did it here ?	agenda/equipment issues
-A	1622.32	That's for the next one .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	1623.6	So we're staying here ?	agenda/equipment issues
-A	1623.63	That's for th Uh that I think that's the next next meeting .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	1625.08	Or should we do it in the next meeting ?	agenda/equipment issues
-C	1627.99	Okay .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	1629.49	But you definitely get a specific instruction .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	1632.33	Okay , so now we're ka thirty minutes alone again ?	agenda/equipment issues
-C	1632.8	Yeah .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	1636.74	But th think about something that's more rounded .	look and usability
-A	1639.62	Just And more It has to be Uh a bit .	look and usability
-B	1641.63	Yeah , uh I dunno .	look and usability
-B	1642.6	But the iPod and etcetera , M_P_ three players , mobile phones .	look and usability
-A	1646.95	Just just on the top or on the bottom .	look and usability
-B	1647.94	Just a bit cur Okay , I'll see if I can see any of those .	look and usability
-A	1652.81	Maybe the wheel can be uh like uh like this .	look and usability
-A	1654.95	O um if you draw it like this , you get a What the fuck is it ?	look and usability
-A	1664.67	Okay .	look and usability
-A	1665.51	Mm Doesn't work .	look and usability
-A	1669.58	You see what I mean ?	look and usability
-A	1670.91	If I draw here It draws about four centimetres lower than Nah okay .	look and usability
-C	1673.35	What ?	look and usability
-C	1676.31	Oh .	look and usability
-C	1678.36	Okay .	look and usability
-A	1678.69	Just .	look and usability
-A	1681.09	Maybe you can make it like this .	look and usability
-A	1686.96	And this is all the wheel for volume .	look and usability
-A	1688.91	So that you just um It's all rounded , so you can do uh turn this one .	look and usability
-C	1693.64	Like a very big scroll-wheel .	look and usability
-A	1695.32	Yeah , but just not on the top , but uh on the side of it .	look and usability
-C	1698.69	Okay .	look and usability
-A	1700.12	Maybe , I dunno .	look and usability
-C	1701.91	Hmm .	look and usability
-A	1703.28	Okay , so we have this at the moment .	look and usability
-C	1706.24	I think uh you'll get a a lot of uh volume changing when it's not wanted .	look and usability
-B	1711.48	Yeah , you Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1712.8	Okay , so we'd have this .	look and usability
-A	1714.27	Is that okay ?	look and usability
-C	1714.91	Yeah .	look and usability
-B	1715.37	Yeah , that's a little problem , of course , as well .	look and usability
-C	1715.46	I think it's probably better .	look and usability
-A	1716.95	And Like this .	look and usability
-C	1717.77	Yeah , but maybe we can make a a plastic , so that you i if you like drop it , it won't change the volume .	look and usability
-B	1724.02	Yeah , maybe you just have to make it uh That's not scrollable too easy .	look and usability
-C	1724.13	Only if you use your finger .	look and usability
-A	1730.61	And uh what's the channel choose ?	look and usability
-A	1732.34	Where do we uh put that ?	look and usability
-C	1734.72	I think in middle .	look and usability
-A	1735.15	Still on the bottom or That's the numbers .	look and usability
-B	1736.4	Uh wh what is the middle part ?	look and usability
-C	1740.23	Uh I think th the numbers should be in the bottom , and and the switch channel in the middle .	look and usability
-B	1740.41	Numbers , okay .	look and usability
-B	1744.16	Yeah , I agree as well .	look and usability
-B	1746.37	Use the dz Yeah , that's right .	look and usability
-A	1746.84	It doesn't make a difference , if you put the s uh the switch channels on side of each other or on top of each other .	look and usability
-A	1752.99	Because you already have the volume here , so You can also put it here one butt and the other one there .	look and usability
-A	1758.56	Next to each other .	look and usability
-A	1760.12	back and forth .	look and usability
-A	1761.37	So you can also can put it all on the top , and this , you keep this empty .	look and usability
-A	1764.79	Because you have to hold it as well .	look and usability
-C	1766.63	Or you could do the switch channel up button above the the numbers and switch channel down button below .	look and usability
-A	1773.08	But that's not want to zap very quick , so Yeah ?	look and usability
-B	1775.56	Yeah , I think uh zapping is the highest priority .	look and usability
-C	1775.76	Yeah , okay .	look and usability
-B	1778.1	And then you use those uh Yeah , of course uh .	look and usability
-A	1779.59	Is this a opportunity , or you don't want a different Why ?	look and usability
-C	1783.04	Uh but I think we we should bu uh put 'em on top of each other , so Because then it's it's easy to know m if I push the the the up Yeah , but the top the top button is is like you switch channel up , and down button is If you put them But uh but I I think uh left to right is more often associated with volume , and top down is more with uh channel changing .	look and usability
-A	1793.49	But still the next It's still the next one .	look and usability
-A	1795.86	Doesn't make Yeah , but fo from left to right is exactly the same .	look and usability
-B	1803.45	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1803.61	It ma it doesn't make a big difference .	look and usability
-B	1804.24	I I think it's It's it's obvious , I think .	look and usability
-D	1813.09	Yeah , that's not not It's not al uh always the same .	look and usability
-A	1814.96	But it's exactly th I dunno .	look and usability
-C	1815.13	In uh On most on most remote controls .	look and usability
-D	1816.57	Every remote control's uh different .	look and usability
-B	1817.35	Yeah , I think No , uh I think Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1817.89	So so if we use that , they will probably have a long learning uh time .	look and usability
-A	1824.26	I You already have the volume on the side , so you can't make it you can't ma make a mistake .	look and usability
-A	1827.97	So it's uh So but that's for that's for you , 'cause it's Okay , so hmm .	look and usability
-B	1828.17	I think it's s so simple you just Yeah , okay I'll d I'll take a look at it .	look and usability
-C	1829.34	I dunno .	look and usability
-C	1831.21	Okay .	look and usability
-A	1840.5	What did What else we have to discuss about ?	look and usability
-A	1842.57	I dunno .	look and usability
-B	1844.38	Think we need to work uh thirty minutes again ?	look and usability
-D	1850.56	Yeah , we have to care that it r uh looks really new .	look and usability
-D	1852.74	Because uh we still hold on to the uh ordinary uh uh square uh remote control .	look and usability
-A	1861.01	Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1862.6	'Cause wha what I see the only difference i i i in fact is that we use a scroll-wheel on the outside .	look and usability
-A	1868.13	And the LED .	look and usability
-B	1868.31	No , you have uh It is Uh the current uh controllers are all black and plastic .	look and usability
-C	1869.17	Yeah , but i i it should be round in in shape .	look and usability
-C	1871.7	So No , tha that will be Yeah , so top down .	look and usability
-B	1875.52	You have to look at that image of the iPod .	look and usability
-D	1877.88	Yes .	look and usability
-B	1878.66	More that uh kind of style .	look and usability
-D	1878.91	Okay .	look and usability
-D	1880.77	And a bit uh Some some kind of bling bling uh mm can we have Uh and how many uh fronts uh fronts do we put on the market then ?	look and usability
-B	1881.66	Not not the old grey black Where you can put a ve Uh we have If we do it like that we have below have we uh a lot of room to put a nice logo .	look and usability
-A	1883.17	Uh Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1893.88	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1894.11	Uh the logo was has to be on there .	look and usability
-A	1895.64	Yeah , that's right .	look and usability
-D	1900.61	Uh five or something ?	look and usability
-A	1901.7	Yeah , five .	look and usability
-D	1901.77	Or more or And um uh uh buy the product .	look and usability
-A	1902.64	Let's give five .	look and usability
-B	1904.95	Maybe you can buy separate ones and uh Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1909.43	You buy , you get one .	look and usability
-D	1911.52	And uh basic .	look and usability
-D	1913.19	Or you can choose one uh if you buy the project .	look and usability
-B	1913.8	Um I think Yeah .	look and usability
-B	1916.9	That's your choice , I think huh .	look and usability
-A	1918.23	So y you can put the bottom of the remote control in recharger ?	look and usability
-A	1922.15	Is that is that a good good opportunity ?	look and usability
-B	1923.81	Yes .	look and usability
-A	1924.43	So you could put it like that , okay .	look and usability
-C	1926.51	Hmm ?	look and usability
-D	1927.08	Yeah , you sl uh you let it slide in the docking station .	look and usability
-C	1931.68	Do we have to design that w as well ?	look and usability
-D	1933.12	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1934.12	Uh I'm not sure .	look and usability
-C	1934.55	The docking station ?	look and usability
-B	1936.16	Yeah , I think so .	look and usability
-C	1938.5	Hmm .	look and usability
-D	1941.41	Yeah , we can b It c it could be just just a square , just a packet .	look and usability
-B	1941.68	But th Yeah , that can be very simple .	look and usability
-B	1944.6	Least .	look and usability
-C	1945.91	Yeah , just a recharger .	look and usability
-B	1947.97	Yeah , just where you're around something .	look and usability
-B	1952.65	Li Yeah , we had one example .	look and usability
-C	1955.64	But we have to make contacts on the on the remote control and the recharger as well .	look and usability
-B	1963.31	Mm .	look and usability
-B	1964.65	Mm .	look and usability
-D	1965.4	Yeah , but that's a round one .	look and usability
-B	1966.32	Which w Here you see one that's very round .	look and usability
-D	1966.98	Maybe we can choose then .	look and usability
-C	1974.36	Oh yeah , okay .	look and usability
-B	1975.78	So I think that can be all kind of shapes .	look and usability
-A	1979.04	But maybe you can just round up the corners a bit .	look and usability
-C	1982.65	Of the remote control ?	look and usability
-A	1982.72	That's all .	look and usability
-A	1983.52	Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1984.0	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1985.25	Yeah Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1986.23	Just round it up .	look and usability
-B	1986.36	Yeah , so y you don't want uh this uh like the iPod .	look and usability
-B	1990.7	But More rounded .	look and usability
-A	1992.14	No .	look and usability
-A	1992.73	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1993.19	Yeah .	look and usability
-B	1994.88	Yeah , I think it will just look like more like this one .	look and usability
-B	1999.41	Since it's This is also rounded .	look and usability
-A	2001.8	No , just just the corners .	look and usability
-B	2001.81	I think i Yeah okay , tho those are al already a bit cornered .	look and usability
-B	2006.36	Mm Yeah okay , but then we have to think of something totally new .	look and usability
-A	2006.4	Okay .	look and usability
-C	2006.99	Yeah , but we can we can do all kinds of uh As long as it isn is in two D_ we can use all kind of round shapes .	look and usability
-A	2013.78	Shapes .	look and usability
-C	2016.0	Not in depth .	look and usability
-C	2020.55	Yeah , but Yeah , if if we want to make it kind of , yeah , new .	look and usability
-B	2026.89	I've uh I had a lot of picture of old ones .	look and usability
-B	2029.36	And all curves have already been done .	look and usability
-A	2038.29	It's a bit annoying , isn't it ?	look and usability
-D	2040.02	Yeah .	look and usability
-D	2042.2	What do we do wrong ?	look and usability
-D	2043.61	Hmm .	look and usability
-D	2044.35	Just just more like this and not uh a square .	look and usability
-B	2047.28	Yeah okay , yeah well Yeah .	look and usability
-D	2047.7	Okay .	look and usability
-C	2048.48	Yeah , but we could do a lot of , lot more curving .	look and usability
-C	2054.37	I would do it Like in this kind of shape or I dunno .	look and usability
-B	2056.74	I know we can do a lot more , but I think it will only look more like the old remote controls .	look and usability
-D	2059.1	Yeah , it Uh it's very annoying .	look and usability
-D	2071.64	Okay .	look and usability
-C	2075.09	I dunno if it's handy .	look and usability
-D	2079.62	Uh Yeah .	look and usability
-C	2083.45	This ?	look and usability
-B	2084.18	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	2084.52	The olden the olden ones had looked like just a square thing .	look and usability
-B	2087.96	Yeah okay .	look and usability
-B	2088.4	But uh I had a lot of pictures Oh I can show you here what the old ones look like .	look and usability
-C	2101.97	Mm .	look and usability
-B	2104.66	Curves , curves .	look and usability
-C	2106.93	Yeah .	look and usability
-B	2107.68	You've more there as well .	look and usability
-C	2110.18	Yeah , okay .	look and usability
-B	2112.97	It wasn't very small one .	look and usability
-C	2115.83	Yeah .	look and usability
-B	2116.62	very simple .	look and usability
-B	2120.07	That is for elderly .	look and usability
-A	2120.76	So we have to make a decision , what kind of form it's gonna have t going to have .	look and usability
-C	2125.39	Yeah , I don't know .	look and usability
-B	2132.2	I think if w My opinion .	look and usability
-B	2134.75	If we just uh take the iPod , and the same look .	look and usability
-D	2137.95	Yeah .	look and usability
-B	2139.02	So uh light or just whatever colour , but the same light colours .	look and usability
-C	2144.99	Mm-hmm .	look and usability
-B	2145.13	And uh just with uh together with uh the back-lights b look will look very new .	look and usability
-B	2151.39	No rubber buttons or something .	look and usability
-B	2153.54	Just together with the back-lights you'll get a totally new look .	look and usability
-B	2156.27	More like the M_P_ three player M_ um P_ M_ P_ three player .	look and usability
-C	2160.02	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	2160.49	And you have the scroll button inside .	look and usability
-B	2162.48	Yes .	look and usability
-A	2162.9	Okay .	look and usability
-B	2163.12	Just a simple scrollb Doesn't have to be .	look and usability
-D	2163.23	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	2164.03	But why do we have to round it on the t bottom then ?	look and usability
-A	2166.55	Of Skip that one as well .	look and usability
-A	2170.12	Okay .	look and usability
-A	2170.96	Yeah , it's cool .	look and usability
-C	2171.57	Yeah , though that's a trend .	look and usability
-C	2173.37	If we want to make it .	look and usability
-C	2175.01	But yeah , I'm not a Trendwatcher , you are .	look and usability
-C	2177.19	So Spongeball kinda .	look and usability
-D	2177.8	Uh the t the trend is spongy and fruity .	look and usability
-A	2180.0	Rubber spongy .	look and usability
-D	2182.94	But yeah .	look and usability
-B	2183.12	Yeah .	look and usability
-B	2183.62	No .	look and usability
-B	2184.13	Spongy and Mm .	look and usability
-D	2185.48	It's not not a lot of trends I uh I found uh Uh It The th th Yeah .	look and usability
-A	2188.66	Okay , so we have s still one minute left .	look and usability
-A	2190.55	So just I think it's okay if you just keep it a bit square .	look and usability
-C	2196.94	Okay .	look and usability
-C	2198.37	Yeah , I d I don't know n something about ergonomic kind of fits-in-the-hand uh stuff .	look and usability
-A	2202.31	No .	look and usability
-A	2204.53	But I I think it's still for older people .	look and usability
-A	2206.62	You j still have older people .	look and usability
-A	2208.4	It's only annoying if it if it's like that f formed like that , like f Whatever .	look and usability
-A	2213.39	Just you have a normal But i it is it is it is already fancy .	look and usability
-D	2213.5	There is one There's just one overall important aspect is that we must make it fancy and it looks original , and I hope we can uh make it look not like the iPod itself .	look and usability
-C	2213.75	Yeah , but we're we're aiming at a young public .	look and usability
-D	2225.62	It must have uh uh uh a very different Yeah , they're all the same .	look and usability
-B	2226.88	Yeah , idea .	look and usability
-B	2227.81	But you're If you look at the way remote controls are now And if you make it look like the iPod Yeah okay .	look and usability
-A	2236.24	Because of the lights on the bottom of it .	look and usability
-A	2237.89	That's already fancy .	look and usability
-B	2238.19	So that's already a very big change compared to Ye yeah .	look and usability
-A	2239.04	Uh maybe maybe make the the mm the wha what's it called uh scroll wheel .	look and usability
-A	2244.38	Make it in in yellow or something .	look and usability
-A	2246.08	Just like the colours of Real Reaction .	look and usability
-C	2247.48	Hmm .	look and usability
-B	2249.54	Well uh Could .	look and usability
-C	2250.59	Yeah , we could do that .	look and usability
-D	2252.68	Uh yeah , but uh if you the f uh front , the scroll wheel will still uh be yellow .	look and usability
-A	2257.35	Yeah .	look and usability
-B	2257.86	No , I think Oh .	look and usability
-A	2259.1	It's right .	look and usability
-B	2260.87	Think the scroll wheel won't be very big .	look and usability
-B	2264.37	Since if you put it uh somewhere , the chances that it will scroll are too big .	look and usability
-A	2268.73	Yeah .	look and usability
-B	2268.76	So it will just be a small small scroll wheel .	look and usability
-B	2272.26	So it won't uh stick out much .	look and usability
-A	2275.51	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	2275.72	Maybe the ones we are going to draw there .	look and usability
-A	2278.29	Maybe we have to ask uh to the the mm to her if it has if it can work better than this .	look and usability
-A	2286.83	Because it doesn't work properly .	look and usability
-D	2289.32	No .	look and usability
-A	2289.36	So maybe you have to ask her .	look and usability
-B	2289.65	Yeah okay .	look and usability
-B	2289.98	Well , maybe we can just open images there , and I'll paint and paint .	look and usability
-A	2294.34	Okay .	look and usability
-B	2295.27	I'll be able to do a better job .	look and usability
-A	2295.3	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	2295.69	That's probably Okay , so just finish it .	look and usability
-D	2296.59	If you set the pen yeah , he will draw here .	look and usability
-D	2301.0	Doesn't work .	look and usability
-A	2305.41	So we make it a bit like m that one probably .	look and usability
-D	2309.39	Yeah , I'll see it .	look and usability
-A	2309.64	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	2309.81	Is that okay ?	look and usability
-B	2310.06	Bu Yeah , I agree more like iPod .	look and usability
-C	2311.02	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	2311.6	Okay , only the colour and the flashy light and the We just we just skip the the the voca or was it the the speech recognition .	look and usability components, materials and energy sources
-B	2314.22	Yes .	look and usability
-B	2315.05	Just a Speech .	look and usability components, materials and energy sources
-B	2319.21	Yeah , do we s keep that ?	components, materials and energy sources
-B	2320.23	Yeah , I think Well uh then it w Well that's very easy .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	2321.08	Or keep that ?	components, materials and energy sources
-A	2321.67	It's okay .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	2322.23	But you'd definitely need a advanced chip .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	2323.03	S Uh yeah , I don't know .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	2325.54	Uh No .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	2325.82	Yeah , I think so .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	2327.94	And we we have to build in a microphone and Yeah , and I do I don't know anything about that .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	2331.85	We already have uh the beeping of the home station , so Uh strange that I received the information about that .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	2337.51	I d I didn't receive any information on speech recognition , so Fine .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	2340.6	Oh that's hard .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	2341.88	But Uh the ma the main points I I I uh just said .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	2342.4	So Can we just put it speech recognition in it as well , okay ?	components, materials and energy sources
-D	2347.88	We have to be original and uh technological innovative .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	2352.55	Becau Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	2353.93	But Ma But we don't have any f information about the cost .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	2356.38	So shall we it open then ?	components, materials and energy sources
-A	2357.97	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	2358.34	So we can put all the Okay .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	2360.29	The function of that in there .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	2361.45	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	2362.71	And we need a Probably we need a uh advanced chip then .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	2366.97	Yeah , we probably do .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	2367.65	But it doesn't say anything about it , does it ?	components, materials and energy sources
-B	2368.4	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	2369.8	No .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	2370.88	Oh yeah , I No .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	2374.26	We started with information about the cost was now th And how much is the chip ?	components, materials and energy sources
-B	2375.29	I just I just received the Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	2375.62	Yeah , uh I have I have some some information about the cost .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	2378.69	But just a about the chip .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	2383.39	The the the And how how does it work ?	components, materials and energy sources
-C	2384.52	I don't know how much , but Just in inexpensive or But i it's a separate chip .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	2386.0	Yeah , our division has developed a new speech recognition feature , the integrated programmable sample sensor simple speaker u unit .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	2393.03	This is a very small electronic unit , will give a standard answer after it recognise a question .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	2399.76	Is it No .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	2400.28	Doesn't say .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	2400.86	Just You say record , followed by your question sample , and after a few seconds the answer uh sample .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	2408.72	Because uh So it works like uh good morning remote control , and then the remote control says good morning .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	2416.07	It doesn't has to say anything .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	2417.56	Just You have to just talk to Okay , we have to stop it now .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	2418.52	Does it say does it say something back ?	components, materials and energy sources
-B	2418.65	Yeah uh th that's just It's a No .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	2421.08	So just Okay , that's a r That's that's a advanced Yeah , we just decide not to put it in , because it's too difficult .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	2421.54	Yeah , it Well that's integrated in the chip , so if you use the speech recognition , that's in it .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	2428.48	I dunno , but if we use speech recognition , that will be in it as well .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	2432.83	Okay .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	2435.46	Yeah , I don't know anything about this , but Nah .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	2437.07	Um Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	2441.97	I dunno .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	2442.72	Well it it would be would be a good feature feature .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	2445.43	Okay , we just put it in , because it's a good feature .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	2446.67	Okay .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	2447.65	No no worries about the cost , etcetera .	closing components, materials and energy sources
-A	2448.14	We have to stop now .	closing
-A	2449.9	Okay , just We have to stop it now .	closing
-B	2449.93	And there's a chip in it that will Okay .	closing
-D	2452.34	Fine .	closing

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-A	6.75	Oh .	opening
-B	7.13	It's not saved yet .	opening
-C	8.49	Okay .	opening
-B	15.65	So Our beautiful drawing .	opening
-A	20.89	Okay .	opening
-A	31.9	So just f um So this is our agenda .	opening
-A	43.17	You're F You're going to show your pr prototype presentation after me .	opening
-D	48.52	Oops .	opening
-C	51.26	Okay .	opening
-A	53.2	Uh I didn't Oh yeah .	opening
-A	57.46	So these are the So these are the um last notes we I made .	opening
-C	62.03	Oh , okay .	opening
-C	62.98	Yeah .	opening
-A	69.04	If anything doesn't look right , just say it to me then .	opening
-A	73.37	I don't have to put it in the report .	opening
-B	78.53	Are we doing the the speech recognition ?	discussion
-B	80.9	Because we didn't have enough time to uh de um design the inside as well .	discussion
-A	85.96	Okay , but it's still possible uh uh financially .	discussion
-A	89.16	So if you want to , it's okay .	discussion
-B	90.71	Okay yeah .	discussion
-B	91.22	Well then then we're gonna put it in .	discussion
-A	92.92	Okay , just Slide open is uh quite usable for remote controls .	look and usability discussion
-B	94.76	Yeah , just uh we have to design the inside then , but it should be uh It's may maybe uh a bit stronger as well .	look and usability discussion
-C	97.32	Yeah , and Or are we making a slide open , like underneath ?	look and usability
-C	101.7	Or fold open ?	look and usability
-C	103.6	I don't know .	look and usability
-C	105.4	It's probably better .	look and usability
-C	108.24	Yeah , s Like underneath uh you can slide it open and you other functions .	look and usability
-A	112.43	Maybe that's better .	look and usability
-C	114.51	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	114.66	Yeah , that's that's a very good point .	look and usability
-B	115.99	Okay , so when you have a lot of room inside .	look and usability
-C	116.33	Think that's better .	look and usability
-B	119.59	So you can make it very easy to use .	look and usability
-B	122.41	'Cause you can write a lot of comments besides it .	look and usability
-A	122.51	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	125.6	Okay .	discussion
-A	126.17	So this is okay ?	discussion
-B	129.97	No .	discussion
-B	130.54	Yeah , we're gonna use the advanced chip then .	discussion
-A	132.73	Okay , so that's Uh I'll just have a look how much that is .	discussion
-C	134.36	The Yeah , I I think so .	discussion
-A	136.49	But um Okay , for the Okay .	discussion
-B	137.63	Advanced chip was for uh spee Yeah .	discussion
-C	140.31	I don't know .	discussion
-A	140.74	No , you have a different chip for speech recognition .	discussion
-A	143.49	So So I already calculated that and it's still in the budget .	discussion
-B	143.49	Okay .	discussion
-C	143.6	Ah okay .	discussion
-A	147.43	So it's okay .	discussion
-B	148.71	Good .	discussion
-A	157.73	So you can show your prototype if you want to .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	162.37	Yeah .	presentation of prototype(s)
-B	162.82	Together ?	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	163.73	Yeah , it's Let's do it together .	presentation of prototype(s)
-B	166.1	I'll give comments .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	167.38	Okay .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	171.31	Yeah , we just made a Word file with the basic elements .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	182.9	Uh the look-and-feel model .	look and usability
-C	185.31	Uh well the form , the case um as drawn there .	look and usability
-C	190.82	Simply a square with uh round corners .	look and usability
-C	194.43	So that's basically it .	look and usability
-C	196.89	Uh the material should be hard plastic .	look and usability
-D	199.54	Mm-hmm .	look and usability
-C	199.88	Uh colour changeable , and also transparent .	look and usability
-C	203.52	And colour and transparent , or just transparent , I don't know .	look and usability
-C	208.78	Um then the elements .	look and usability
-C	213.74	Uh we have The functions are just basic .	look and usability
-C	218.89	Like uh I've pointed them here .	look and usability
-C	221.67	Mute function , on-off function , text functions .	look and usability
-C	225.66	This uh switch channel .	look and usability
-A	227.52	Okay , cool .	look and usability
-C	228.36	And this is the the num-pad .	look and usability
-C	232.62	And the logo is over here , and the mic .	look and usability
-A	235.62	Okay .	look and usability
-C	237.12	And the scrollwheel , no ?	look and usability
-C	239.06	You operate that with your pointing finger .	look and usability
-D	239.11	Means Okay .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	241.29	So you hold it like this in your right hand and Uh I dunno .	look and usability presentation of prototype(s)
-A	244.3	Mm .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	246.1	So how many functions do you need for for uh the microphone ?	presentation of prototype(s)
-B	250.09	Speech recognition .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	250.91	Yeah , speech recognition .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	252.09	Just Only one button to say it's on or off .	presentation of prototype(s)
-B	252.4	Um I didn't have a specification of that .	presentation of prototype(s)
-B	255.67	But um I can imagine that you have to input your voice or something .	presentation of prototype(s)
-B	261.73	Um so I've Yes , you need options to configure it , and after that you don't need 'em anymore .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	262.6	Yeah , maybe maybe uh you have to configure it .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	270.32	So you can put it on the back as well if you want to .	presentation of prototype(s)
-B	271.89	Yeah , you can put 'em all on the back .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	272.48	Yeah , or or on the slide function , I don't know .	presentation of prototype(s)
-B	273.41	That's for sure .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	275.03	Okay .	presentation of prototype(s)
-B	275.77	That's uh We also don't know how many buttons are required , or what kind of buttons .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	276.24	Well we haven't had time to design that , the slide pad .	presentation of prototype(s)
-B	283.91	But You have a lot of room if you can slide it open .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	288.78	Yeah , you can put it separate .	presentation of prototype(s)
-B	289.13	You Yeah I know .	presentation of prototype(s)
-B	289.99	I can imagine you need at least four buttons or something .	presentation of prototype(s)
-B	292.44	So But it's enough room .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	293.52	Yeah .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	296.45	Um the position ?	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	299.09	Yeah , you write uh You wrote this , so .	presentation of prototype(s)
-B	300.25	Uh well Well the main , the main zap buttons are most central .	look and usability
-B	305.02	That was the the most important thing .	look and usability
-B	306.91	So uh the best place , the best reach place Um on-off buttons , text buttons , mute buttons are together and at a place they easily are , easy to find .	look and usability
-B	320.49	Um the on-off button is a bit bigger , uh so it stands out .	look and usability
-B	324.7	That way you don't have to make it red , 'cause it's will uh will show up .	look and usability
-B	330.3	Uh scrollwheel is on the left side .	look and usability
-B	332.92	It's basically the be standard place for scrollwheel , as far as I know .	look and usability
-C	337.18	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	338.35	But it's not uh impossible to use it , if you're left handed .	look and usability
-C	342.59	So y Because you can use your thumb then .	look and usability
-B	343.35	Yeah .	look and usability
-D	345.64	Just just one thing now .	look and usability
-D	346.8	Um y you need to have more uh one two th You've got one two three four five six seven eight nine .	look and usability
-B	352.51	Okay yeah , they Yeah okay .	look and usability
-D	353.85	But you missed the no uh the zero and uh the two stripes .	look and usability
-C	355.78	Mm yeah .	look and usability
-B	357.79	That's that's below that then .	look and usability
-C	358.22	Yeah , okay .	look and usability
-B	359.61	It's uh twelve buttons .	look and usability
-C	360.43	just so you get that .	look and usability
-D	362.95	Okay , but It's rather important .	look and usability
-B	367.37	Yeah okay , just we just missed that .	look and usability
-C	367.7	Yeah .	look and usability
-B	369.33	But um I'll just uh I'll get back to later .	look and usability
-B	375.99	F the form well , we've taken that from the iPod , other popular technical device .	look and usability
-B	381.92	So um should be popular .	look and usability
-B	385.47	Um The f uh the buttons creating ?	look and usability
-B	389.67	Uh if you That or all round shapes , not uh rounded corners .	look and usability
-A	396.21	Okay .	look and usability
-B	396.88	So that , you know , you get a bit round feeling .	look and usability
-B	400.68	Um we'll use hard plastic .	look and usability
-B	403.05	Since that allows us to use uh two D_ buttons , uh non-rubber buttons .	look and usability
-B	409.39	Colour changeable .	look and usability
-B	410.9	Well and um the backlight thing , the thing that lights up .	look and usability
-B	415.82	We have decided uh in the the channel buttons , there's a little uh colour around it .	look and usability
-D	422.72	Okay .	look and usability
-B	423.4	And also in the num-pads , there's also colour light behind it .	look and usability
-A	428.26	And do you still can , do you still can choose what colour , kind of colour you want ?	look and usability
-B	428.71	So when you pre Yeah .	look and usability
-A	432.81	How do you want to implement that ?	look and usability
-A	435.02	Just on the Maybe on the second level as well ?	look and usability
-B	435.15	We're going to implement .	look and usability
-B	437.04	Yeah .	look and usability
-B	437.68	Mm just a little Yeah .	look and usability presentation of prototype(s)
-D	438.75	Ah .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	438.82	Yeah , these are just basic functions , so All the non-basic are in Okay .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	442.25	Okay , just draw draw the second level , because we need that as well .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	446.44	Um Okay , maybe we use this button for the Yeah .	presentation of prototype(s)
-D	446.6	Okay , there is one uh function I use uh daily , and it's not on the basic functions .	presentation of prototype(s)
-D	452.48	It's uh to switch to uh uh your Scart .	presentation of prototype(s)
-D	457.15	Play Station or uh D_V_D_ player .	presentation of prototype(s)
-D	459.56	That function must be Yeah , maybe Or you can uh i uh lay it uh beneath in the uh other uh functions .	presentation of prototype(s)
-B	465.62	Yeah , I um To your video device .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	466.42	Yeah , as well .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	466.93	Just make make a Just just draw a second level one and say all options that are still left or something .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	474.69	A second level ?	presentation of prototype(s)
-B	474.83	Yeah .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	475.69	Yeah .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	475.72	Like a a new blank one or Or just here ?	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	477.2	No no , just on Down there .	presentation of prototype(s)
-B	478.87	Is i Ah okay .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	479.48	Okay .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	479.64	So uh Just uh if you s Yeah , y Maybe , yeah .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	481.08	Yeah .	presentation of prototype(s)
-D	481.53	And h how does the second level come out ?	presentation of prototype(s)
-D	483.38	Uh it slides uh along ?	presentation of prototype(s)
-B	484.35	Um slides I think .	presentation of prototype(s)
-B	486.04	It's You can do it that it claps open , but I think that's not solid enough .	presentation of prototype(s)
-D	486.43	From from the uh beneath ?	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	487.95	For the bottom .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	490.76	No , you gotta slide it .	presentation of prototype(s)
-B	490.95	If that breaks then you're screwed .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	494.03	Yeah , it's right .	presentation of prototype(s)
-B	495.81	So it do doesn't even have to slide all the way open .	presentation of prototype(s)
-B	499.13	Um Uh i the the speech functions buttons .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	499.66	So what do we need ?	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	504.19	Yeah , just God damn it .	presentation of prototype(s)
-D	507.26	Menu ?	presentation of prototype(s)
-B	509.09	Menu button .	presentation of prototype(s)
-B	511.32	With uh maybe uh arrows .	presentation of prototype(s)
-B	514.11	So you can uh scroll in the , navigate the menu .	presentation of prototype(s)
-B	522.09	Um I think we can even put a We have one for the zero and one for the for the more digit uh channels .	presentation of prototype(s)
-D	522.93	Scart ?	presentation of prototype(s)
-D	530.74	Uh yeah .	presentation of prototype(s)
-D	533.64	And so y you keep you keep one , you have one left .	presentation of prototype(s)
-B	534.92	So you have one left for the Right , the video channel , Play Station , etcetera .	presentation of prototype(s)
-D	536.27	Yes .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	536.89	So this is the Extern or something .	presentation of prototype(s)
-B	539.45	That's used pretty often .	presentation of prototype(s)
-D	541.11	Yeah .	presentation of prototype(s)
-B	541.98	If you have a Play Station , mm you use it every day .	presentation of prototype(s)
-D	542.49	It's a f basic uh Yeah , to navigate .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	543.16	Yeah .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	555.47	You want to save that file as well ?	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	559.37	The drawing ?	presentation of prototype(s)
-B	563.54	That was it .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	563.64	So here are multiple speech buttons , I don't know how many .	presentation of prototype(s)
-B	567.39	Uh It doesn't really matter .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	568.3	Doesn't really matter .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	568.82	I don't know the functions .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	569.07	Just just uh Yeah .	presentation of prototype(s)
-B	570.24	That's Yeah well we don't have any uh Hmm ?	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	570.47	Okay .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	571.61	What else ?	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	574.38	What else ?	presentation of prototype(s)
-B	574.94	What else ?	presentation of prototype(s)
-B	575.52	Uh menu buttons with arrows .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	576.7	Uh menu .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	579.0	Uh With arrows .	presentation of prototype(s)
-B	579.08	S Just uh like Um I think it's best if we do .	presentation of prototype(s)
-B	584.53	Mm where do we have Or there .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	588.78	Like a normal um Yeah , with in the middle um a menu button .	presentation of prototype(s)
-B	590.43	Like on the normal uh Like this .	presentation of prototype(s)
-B	594.07	The menu button , yes .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	594.94	Okay .	presentation of prototype(s)
-B	597.87	Well we don't have any , anything on how many buttons speech requires .	presentation of prototype(s)
-B	601.6	So you can't redesign it .	presentation of prototype(s)
-D	603.88	Mm okay .	presentation of prototype(s)
-D	609.48	Maybe one button to switch the colour of your uh LEDs ?	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	612.37	Yeah .	presentation of prototype(s)
-B	613.07	Yep .	presentation of prototype(s)
-D	613.53	Uh and and you can hold it , you can hold it , and then the colours switch or mm multiple multiple buttons .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	617.08	Yeah .	presentation of prototype(s)
-B	617.64	Just press it once , the colour should uh switch .	presentation of prototype(s)
-B	619.86	Press again , the colour switch again maybe ?	presentation of prototype(s)
-D	621.84	okay .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	623.59	Or we just make it three buttons , all the colours on it .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	626.11	Just red , yel uh red , green and That's that's very easy , yeah .	presentation of prototype(s)
-D	627.57	Okay , yeah .	presentation of prototype(s)
-D	628.81	Th Yeah .	presentation of prototype(s)
-D	629.54	If we have enough place , uh then we can do that .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	629.73	Yeah , okay .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	632.54	We can put those here .	presentation of prototype(s)
-D	634.79	Colour buttons .	presentation of prototype(s)
-D	637.19	And then we choose green , uh blue and red or Okay .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	639.85	Yeah .	presentation of prototype(s)
-B	640.75	Yep .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	648.19	Okay .	presentation of prototype(s)
-D	648.81	Okay .	presentation of prototype(s)
-D	649.74	That's uh Um It Some text uh buttons .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	657.88	So did we miss anything ?	presentation of prototype(s)
-B	660.06	Yeah , maybe some uh some text next to the scroll wheel , that it is volume .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	666.01	Okay .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	666.47	Yeah .	presentation of prototype(s)
-D	667.98	Yeah , but there's one there's one text button I There's one text button I prefer .	presentation of prototype(s)
-B	668.48	I just uh The volume logo .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	668.5	No , ma on on o on the on the Yeah .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	671.21	Oh wh Here ?	presentation of prototype(s)
-B	673.05	Yeah .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	673.8	Okay .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	674.12	Just make it Yeah , just put it on those extra f extra function as well .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	675.36	Yeah , or th or the Yeah .	presentation of prototype(s)
-D	677.15	That's the one uh that you use if you search for a page , uh like seven hundred , uh and it's counting from one hundred to two hundred , you will switch to your television and back to text .	presentation of prototype(s)
-B	687.22	Yeah , we have that on the the text button .	presentation of prototype(s)
-D	688.29	Do you do you Did you think of that ?	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	689.26	Yep .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	690.88	Yeah , but then you can switch back to normal telete teletext .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	694.37	You just switch it off and then Well w we thought of a text button .	presentation of prototype(s)
-B	694.77	Uh why not ?	presentation of prototype(s)
-D	698.41	Ex Yeah .	presentation of prototype(s)
-D	699.83	Yeah .	presentation of prototype(s)
-B	699.89	No Whoa I think um Yeah , the three stages .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	702.74	And if you press it again , you get the the the through view .	presentation of prototype(s)
-D	705.93	The sta the state you Yeah .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	706.48	Oh just three stages , you Yeah , that's okay .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	708.19	Yeah , b but but if you're in the second stage , the third stage is switch teletext off .	presentation of prototype(s)
-B	709.31	Yes .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	713.26	So you can switch back from second to w first .	presentation of prototype(s)
-B	714.53	No , it doesn't have to turn it off .	presentation of prototype(s)
-D	717.02	No .	presentation of prototype(s)
-B	717.12	Just don't Yeah .	presentation of prototype(s)
-D	717.72	Just remember where it was .	presentation of prototype(s)
-D	719.04	It it doesn't uh uh clear the the page .	presentation of prototype(s)
-D	723.18	If you if you turn teletext on , you you set the seven hundred , and you turn it off , then the next time you turn it on , it still stays on seven hundred ?	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	724.36	Yes , that's to remember .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	731.45	Okay , okay .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	732.14	Yeah , but that's that's uh That's a functionality for the television .	presentation of prototype(s)
-D	732.63	But maybe it's not the way Mm .	presentation of prototype(s)
-B	734.28	I dunno if Yeah , I think as well , but Uh yeah .	presentation of prototype(s)
-D	740.56	That's maybe one thing we can discuss about .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	741.78	Yeah mm nee uh No , if i uh the remote can send like the the code for seven hundred , page seven hundred to the television .	presentation of prototype(s)
-B	751.92	Yeah , in thi the the remote control in the the chip .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	751.96	Th th th if you switch it on .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	752.97	Okay .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	755.05	Yeah , but you have to search every time again .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	755.28	Th i Yeah , I dunno .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	757.14	That's what what happening if you do it like that .	presentation of prototype(s)
-B	759.1	Yeah , that's true .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	759.29	But it's still the television that has to do that .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	761.27	Okay .	presentation of prototype(s)
-B	762.01	So yeah .	presentation of prototype(s)
-B	762.81	Um do we need to fix that or Just like your telephone , hard plastic .	presentation of prototype(s)
-D	765.2	Mm most new T_V_s do uh collect all the pages .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	765.39	No , that's what the television does .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	770.47	Yeah , those memory functions .	presentation of prototype(s)
-D	770.98	But uh not not every every television , so Yeah , I I thought about one thing .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	776.88	Yeah .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	777.58	Okay , it's cool .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	777.68	Was uh this logo for uh volume ?	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	779.98	Yeah , that's fine .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	780.62	Okay .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	785.68	So that's it ?	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	786.22	Is this prich pretty much it , yeah ?	presentation of prototype(s)
-D	791.32	Uh the buttons ?	presentation of prototype(s)
-D	792.44	Uh from which material are they now ?	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	794.43	Mm .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	795.11	No no Yeah .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	796.96	Just hard plastic .	presentation of prototype(s)
-D	797.68	Okay .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	797.92	So Uh I think just um Yeah , but I think uh you have that problem more often with rubber buttons .	presentation of prototype(s)
-D	798.47	Because um if you use it a couple of years , some uh sometimes the numbers on the on the buttons are slide away , are uh And maybe we can write the numbers below or above ?	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	798.53	It's too expensive to make it from a different material anyway .	presentation of prototype(s)
-D	813.06	Or shall we just turn it on on the buttons ?	presentation of prototype(s)
-B	816.13	I think just on the buttons .	presentation of prototype(s)
-B	817.88	If you do it abo above or below , it takes uh more space .	presentation of prototype(s)
-D	821.47	Well yeah .	presentation of prototype(s)
-D	822.17	That's too much place .	presentation of prototype(s)
-D	825.2	Okay , just leave it .	presentation of prototype(s)
-B	825.45	I don't think the space is worth it .	presentation of prototype(s)
-D	826.15	Just leave it .	presentation of prototype(s)
-D	827.67	Yeah , and i The most time Yeah , with rubber buttons .	presentation of prototype(s)
-D	832.17	Yeah , okay .	presentation of prototype(s)
-D	835.49	Okay .	presentation of prototype(s)
-D	836.12	Fine .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	836.46	Yeah ?	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	837.34	Okay , cool .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	847.14	Mm mm mm mm mm .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	851.43	Yeah , I don't know what this means .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	852.62	But I think we just evela evaluated this one .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	855.12	Yeah , I made some criteria uh , so we can uh ev evaluate our model .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	856.8	Oh okay , you made some criteria .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	858.04	Okay , cool .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	860.56	Okay .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	860.88	I d d d I don't think if it's right .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	863.99	That shall show it .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	870.95	You have some usability criteria or Okay .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	873.61	Mm-hmm .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	874.73	Uh no , uh all criterias we just argue about .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	879.31	Uh Oh .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	881.34	In the bottom .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	884.92	Yeah .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	885.38	Look-and-feel ?	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	886.55	Evaluation crit Yeah , evaluation presentation .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	886.88	No , evaluation is Yeah beautiful's is also a matter of taste .	look and usability evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	893.55	It's not in .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	897.38	Uh d it doesn't matter um It only had two pages or something .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	903.79	Um well I looked in the reports um from the marketing strategy , or uh of uh the the the the the the new needs and uh the market .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	917.13	The Italians uh , how they think about it .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	920.05	And The research uh about uh the the comp uh the the the users and that kind of stuff .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	930.81	I made some criteria , and we have to test the criteria from one to zero .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	936.15	We sh we we we can give it uh a number , and then we can give ourself an average for our um model .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	944.24	Okay .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	946.91	And this These are all I I I found , or I wrote down .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	946.98	Okay .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	951.73	And um we have to discuss about , if we give it a one or a seven .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	956.89	Uh Yes .	look and usability evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	957.04	Uh I think uh if you have a kind of iPod idea .	look and usability
-A	960.14	It quite beautiful .	look and usability
-A	961.56	It's We are actu We are the Flashy .	look and usability
-B	962.77	Mm .	look and usability
-D	963.22	Yeah , the the the difference be between uh beautiful and fancy uh look-and-feel is uh the the the outside uh beautiful uh like the iPod or something .	look and usability
-D	971.81	And fancy's more like the mm uh f the flashing lights and the colours and and that kind of stuff .	look and usability
-B	978.85	Okay .	look and usability
-B	979.39	Well I think we do If it's really uh , if you can if you can get the iPod look , then it's beautiful , I think .	look and usability
-D	979.45	The LEDs .	look and usability
-D	986.22	Yes .	look and usability
-D	987.46	And and what ki what kind of what kind of basic colours uh were you thought uh of ?	look and usability
-A	987.49	But uh It's black .	look and usability
-B	992.54	Hmm ?	look and usability
-D	993.18	The basic colours are black or green or yellow ?	look and usability
-D	996.41	Or you haven't thought about Ho how do we make uh Black and yellow .	look and usability
-B	996.54	Um basic colours , um yeah .	look and usability
-B	998.57	Well you didn't say .	look and usability
-B	1000.36	Maybe um company colours ?	look and usability
-B	1003.75	Black .	look and usability
-A	1005.05	Yeah , yellow light .	look and usability
-B	1005.07	A bit a bit of yellow .	look and usability
-D	1005.15	Can Black white , maybe ?	look and usability
-A	1005.83	Do we have yellow light ?	look and usability
-A	1006.69	No , not really , but it's possible .	look and usability
-B	1007.73	Not not not yellow , but just a bit of light yellow .	look and usability
-A	1008.94	It's Yeah , different colours .	look and usability
-B	1013.56	Like white , also ni or uh always nice .	look and usability
-C	1016.4	And what colours should the buttons be ?	look and usability
-D	1016.82	Uh Because um Okay , so what uh number do we give uh a beautiful ?	look and usability
-A	1020.62	This is Oh , the same as th th the cover .	look and usability
-B	1021.37	Just um Yes .	look and usability
-A	1025.29	But also th the light behind it .	look and usability
-C	1026.44	But can you change those too , with uh the switch ?	look and usability
-A	1028.91	No , no .	look and usability
-A	1030.25	Make them No , just make them black or grey or something .	look and usability
-B	1032.77	Yeah , grey .	look and usability
-B	1033.42	Just dark grey I think .	look and usability
-C	1035.03	Okay .	look and usability
-A	1035.11	Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1040.63	Beautiful is uh really subjective , uh because it has to do lots with the colours .	look and usability
-B	1045.84	Well we have changeable fronts , so So Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1048.41	Changeable fronts , so ev for everyone for everyone it's something beautiful .	look and usability
-A	1051.21	Yeah , just give it a one .	look and usability
-A	1052.24	It's okay .	look and usability
-A	1052.82	It's perfect .	look and usability
-A	1053.73	I think it's just what you want .	look and usability
-A	1055.85	Or not ?	look and usability
-B	1056.6	It's hard to decide for us , but yeah .	look and usability
-C	1058.07	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1059.31	It's ju so subjective .	look and usability
-B	1059.64	It it's At least it's a lot better than uh current remote controls .	look and usability
-D	1064.88	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1065.32	Okay , just give it a two .	look and usability
-D	1066.71	A two .	look and usability
-D	1067.74	Okay .	look and usability
-D	1069.93	The fancy look-and-feel .	look and usability
-D	1071.88	That's about our uh flashing lights and the background uh lights uh from from from the buttons .	look and usability
-B	1077.21	Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1077.7	Okay .	look and usability
-D	1078.57	And we can change the colours , so that's uh really fancy I think .	look and usability
-A	1081.79	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1082.66	One more thing .	look and usability
-D	1082.77	So Slide panel ?	look and usability
-C	1083.3	Are w are we changing uh Or are they there uh backlights on the slide panel too ?	look and usability
-C	1090.19	Or n no back light ?	look and usability
-C	1092.58	Yeah ?	look and usability
-B	1092.71	Mm .	look and usability
-A	1093.19	No .	look and usability
-B	1094.08	Not needed .	look and usability
-A	1094.26	No , it's only on the number , behind the numbers and uh That as well , yeah .	look and usability
-B	1096.25	Yeah , not needed I think .	look and usability
-C	1097.08	And and the switch channel is uh There is a back light too ?	look and usability
-D	1098.86	Oh , you mean th this here ?	look and usability
-B	1100.05	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1101.02	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1101.05	Yeah , but that's unnecessary .	look and usability
-B	1102.6	What do I think is necessary necessary item ?	look and usability
-D	1104.29	It's pretty cool .	look and usability
-D	1104.96	If you slide it open , it lights up .	look and usability
-D	1108.76	That's that's really fancy , but I don't know if it's reachable .	look and usability
-A	1110.08	Yeah .	look and usability
-B	1113.47	Of course it's reachable .	look and usability
-A	1115.89	It doesn't make No .	look and usability
-D	1116.05	Then we do it .	look and usability
-C	1117.13	Hmm .	look and usability
-B	1117.68	Okay , maybe just some light uh to to light it all up .	look and usability
-B	1121.28	So you can see what's really there .	look and usability
-B	1123.4	Not just not re on the buttons or something .	look and usability
-A	1125.75	Yeah .	look and usability
-B	1125.94	Just a green light or some blue light .	look and usability
-B	1129.64	To light it all up .	look and usability
-D	1129.65	Yeah , but Okay .	look and usability
-A	1130.54	But Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1131.39	Mayb Okay .	look and usability
-C	1131.62	Yeah , just backlight .	look and usability
-C	1133.29	Not not the buttons .	look and usability
-C	1134.55	And th and the the normal backlights also not the buttons , but behind the buttons .	look and usability
-B	1134.71	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1139.79	So the buttons are just grey .	look and usability
-B	1141.98	Well yeah .	look and usability
-B	1142.64	Uh semi-transparent .	look and usability
-A	1144.16	Yeah , just only Yeah , that's right .	look and usability
-C	1144.45	Okay .	look and usability
-D	1146.74	Okay , fine .	look and usability
-A	1148.14	So Yeah , that's how I think .	look and usability
-D	1148.15	So I I think it's very fancy .	look and usability
-D	1151.0	So I'll give it a Yeah , and you can uh also choose your light , so I think it's one .	look and usability
-B	1151.17	Yeah , w we've done a a lot of detail in light , so Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1155.9	Ye Yeah , this It is a one .	look and usability
-A	1158.91	It's okay .	look and usability
-A	1159.58	It's cool .	look and usability
-D	1162.62	Okay , next .	look and usability
-A	1163.24	This is a difficult one , because we we don't Yeah , we don't know it about the Uh it's it's very easy to use , but uh the second layer is not easy to use .	look and usability
-D	1164.39	Learnable ?	look and usability
-D	1165.24	Easy to use ?	look and usability
-D	1167.52	Yeah , we shall test it But uh Yeah .	look and usability
-B	1171.87	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1174.31	It's That's No .	look and usability
-C	1175.04	No , but you don't have to use that .	look and usability
-C	1176.89	And you on don't have to pay attention to that second layer .	look and usability
-C	1180.1	That's th that's the main thing that's so good about it .	look and usability
-B	1182.0	So I think it's easy to use , but And learnable is a bit Well y just uh f Yeah , I think it's very clear what it all does .	look and usability
-D	1184.38	Learnable ?	look and usability
-D	1185.26	It's not not as fast as a usual uh uh remote control .	look and usability
-C	1189.32	Well , I think it is .	look and usability
-D	1189.37	Because because I think I think the scroll wheel , uh it's very handy , but the first time you get this thing in your hands , it's not to use the scroll wheel .	look and usability
-D	1197.91	I think uh you must uh seek for it , and up or down or Uh then the re Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1203.22	But the rest of it is very easy , because there are so so n So it is learnable um f i i In the first place it's very easy to use .	look and usability
-C	1207.11	So so few information that you can easily decide what buttons w for what function .	look and usability
-B	1209.7	Yes .	look and usability
-D	1214.71	Okay .	look and usability
-B	1214.74	But the second parts , uh like speech , etcetera , that will be harder to learn .	look and usability
-D	1219.97	Okay .	look and usability
-D	1221.85	But Yeah .	look and usability
-B	1222.94	It's Yeah it's Device .	look and usability
-A	1223.89	And I think its scrollwheel is u easy to use as well , if you have ever used uh a different kind of uh of uh device .	look and usability
-D	1231.26	But we we've got the two so two uh two or three uh new things , huh ?	look and usability
-D	1236.15	And maybe we uh maybe learnable is in uh compare of old fashion uh remote controls .	look and usability
-D	1243.05	So we h we have speech , uh the scroll wheel , and um the the the slide .	look and usability
-D	1249.94	You must slide it .	look and usability
-D	1251.15	And that's not normal at the uh normal remote controls .	look and usability
-D	1253.91	'Cause I think learnable is a l a less than um easy to use .	look and usability
-A	1254.01	But yeah .	look and usability
-D	1258.47	Because easy to use comes after learnable .	look and usability
-B	1258.76	Okay .	look and usability
-A	1259.88	Okay , just Easy to use is very cool , so just give it a two .	look and usability
-D	1260.58	I I think it a three or something .	look and usability
-B	1263.3	Maybe three then .	look and usability
-B	1264.44	Learnable's Yeah okay .	look and usability
-A	1265.46	No , but definitely better , much better than uh than uh than avera average , yeah .	look and usability
-C	1265.63	Mm uh .	look and usability
-C	1268.65	The normal .	look and usability
-B	1270.71	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1271.04	And the one you showed is just all buttons and you don't know Yeah .	look and usability evaluation of prototype(s)
-B	1274.43	Yep , true .	look and usability
-B	1276.27	Then a two .	look and usability
-D	1276.55	Oh .	look and usability
-D	1277.27	Okay .	look and usability
-A	1279.96	Okay .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	1280.47	New features .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	1281.61	Techno technological innovative ?	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1283.65	The speech function and the colour .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	1284.92	The speech function is new .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-B	1285.88	And the scrollwheel , backlights , slide .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1286.02	Colour .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	1286.9	The scrollwheel and the slide .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	1288.43	Uh I think the slide is pretty new .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	1289.48	Slide is not n is is not new .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	1291.49	No .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	1291.96	I already have a Uh I already have a V_C_R_ and it's about from nineteen eighty eight .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	1292.02	Uh I only saw it in a telephone , not in an remote control .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	1296.93	Okay .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	1298.1	And they all have a slide in it .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	1299.2	So that's not new .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-B	1299.24	But also slide that buttons come out , as well ?	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	1301.63	Yeah .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-B	1302.3	Okay .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	1302.88	Okay , and the the the lightning ?	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	1304.95	That's cool .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	1305.22	Is that new ?	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	1305.93	Yeah for a Uh for a f There are no games on it , that's that's It's not a one , it's a two again .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	1306.52	The lighting's new .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1307.19	Mm it's pretty new , I think .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-B	1307.54	Yes .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	1307.61	Scrollwheel .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	1308.76	Speech ?	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1310.33	Speech is new .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-B	1312.05	Different colours , so Yeah .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	1313.82	Yeah , different fronts for a remote control , I think that's new too .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1318.36	Yeah .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	1318.96	So we have a pretty new uh It's it's it's not not L_C_D_ or something .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-B	1320.46	That would And we didn't uh But then we also have the the home station .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	1323.36	But If you have Yeah .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-B	1326.78	We are forgetting about that now , but We don't recharge .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	1329.67	Uh-oh .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	1330.34	Oh yeah , that's right .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	1331.21	Home-station .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	1331.45	Rechargeable .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1332.44	Yeah , we didn't draw that too , but Yeah , that's just a normal th s simple thing .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-B	1335.06	But that's more like uh now .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	1336.5	Yeah , just draw it afterwards .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-B	1339.63	I don't know .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	1340.77	If you Can you save it on the same , in the same map as the other ones ?	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	1344.33	In the the project uh map ?	evaluation of prototype(s)
-B	1344.89	Uh Just save , save as ?	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	1347.99	Yeah .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	1348.51	Mm-hmm .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	1351.38	Uh save as ?	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	1352.14	No , that's not in the project .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1354.14	Well it's a already in the folder .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1355.54	L like number seven .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	1357.12	Oh yeah , okay .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	1357.96	Yeah .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	1358.4	Smart board .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-B	1358.61	Okay .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	1359.06	Yeah , but this one .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	1361.34	This one is not yet in the Oh oh .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1364.41	I think it is .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-B	1368.86	Yeah , it is .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1369.07	No , I think it is .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-B	1370.78	Uh untitled ?	evaluation of prototype(s)
-B	1372.23	Yeah , it doesn't matter .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-B	1374.29	Save .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1376.47	Okay .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	1376.89	Uh all the the seven , uh all the seven .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	1377.17	But you still have to draw the resi the recharger .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	1379.54	Okay .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	1380.14	And new features , so we give it a two or also again a one ?	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	1383.41	No , I think i if you have games on it , then then you give you have a one .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	1386.86	No , we are not extraordinary new or something .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	1387.19	But not No , just so it's still a two .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	1389.57	Tha tha that No , we we we searched for uh um a young group , audience , beneath f forty .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1389.69	Mm two , I think .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-B	1389.91	N Mm .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	1392.24	Targeted audience .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	1393.36	Uh we are the targeted audience ?	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	1395.5	Do we like it ?	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	1399.45	Yeah , but l younger than forty .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	1401.41	Yes .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	1401.42	So we we are exactly the targeted group .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	1404.22	Yeah , but did we reach , um with our uh style , the targeted audience ?	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	1409.77	Th that's my question .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	1410.19	I think so , yeah .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	1411.3	You get the fancy things for younger people .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	1413.09	And you get the the aesthetic things for older people .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1413.13	Yeah .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1416.2	We've got a one for fancy look-and-feel , and that's what attracts the young audience .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	1416.34	So you want Yeah , you get different colours .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	1419.84	Yeah .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1420.86	So think that's a two or a one .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	1422.04	Yeah .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	1422.74	Um the only point is that we don't uh have uh uh That's that's That's this question .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1432.84	Yeah , but s it That's basically not not handy .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1436.06	And I don't thi I don't see Yeah .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	1439.59	Yeah , this .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	1440.25	So we targeted it ?	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	1443.07	But we didn't follow the latest trends .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1443.94	Yeah .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1447.28	No .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1449.42	Yeah , you could make a a front a front that's that's like uh like a banana , or something .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-B	1450.98	I think we followed the latest trends .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	1453.37	Tha these are the only latest uh trends I uh get on my computer .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-B	1457.02	Oh right .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-B	1458.32	Well uh fruit and vegetables , yeah .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-B	1461.02	You can different front uh This is a a power indicator .	evaluation of prototype(s) presentation of prototype(s)
-D	1462.32	Uh yeah , th So we had we uh have uh a fruit uh Oh yeah .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	1463.41	So Oh .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1464.56	Like a a f banana kind of front .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	1468.15	But spongy will never be .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1470.54	No .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	1471.77	So we give ourself a three or something .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1474.56	Yeah .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	1477.68	Okay .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	1478.57	So that's eleven .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	1479.94	That's uh What's the average ?	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1485.61	Eleven divided by six .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-A	1486.1	It's Yeah , it is one point eight three .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	1493.64	A perfect score .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-D	1495.74	No , I don't know .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1496.99	We're not too hard on ourselves .	evaluation of prototype(s)
-C	1502.12	Okay .	presentation of prototype(s)
-B	1502.19	So you can see how far it's charged up .	presentation of prototype(s)
-D	1504.53	And and you need n uh a button to call it , to let it beep .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	1504.8	Okay .	presentation of prototype(s)
-B	1508.23	To call .	presentation of prototype(s)
-B	1509.88	Um Okay .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	1509.92	Oh yeah , that's still Yeah , maybe we have to skip that one .	presentation of prototype(s)
-D	1509.97	Call That's Yeah , but it No , we need that .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	1510.67	Yeah , but uh we have to make a speaker then too .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	1512.83	If you want to make it beep .	presentation of prototype(s)
-B	1516.51	No no , I want that in .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	1519.18	But we can we can do it uh underneath the logo .	presentation of prototype(s)
-D	1521.76	That's usable .	presentation of prototype(s)
-C	1523.28	If you do uh Yeah , okay .	presentation of prototype(s)
-D	1523.64	That's really usable .	presentation of prototype(s)
-A	1523.84	Okay .	presentation of prototype(s)
-B	1524.64	Yeah , th the speaker is very small as well , right ?	presentation of prototype(s)
-D	1528.3	It's uh Yeah .	costing presentation of prototype(s)
-A	1529.88	So I just got a financial um You s saved it or No .	costing
-B	1529.92	Yes uh .	costing
-D	1541.68	I did save it .	costing
-A	1554.04	Okay , let's have a look at this one here , the production cost of it .	costing
-A	1557.54	If I forgot anything , just say it to me .	costing
-A	1560.44	It just is a battery .	costing
-A	1561.41	Yeah , there are some that they didn't mention , because recharge is not on the list .	costing
-A	1567.23	But okay .	costing
-A	1569.07	So I think we are pretty much in the right direction , because it's twelve point three Euros .	costing
-C	1573.11	Mm okay .	costing
-C	1576.01	But uh is uh uh Okay .	costing
-D	1576.8	That's fine .	costing
-A	1577.5	So this is a regular chip incl and and a sample speaker .	costing
-A	1582.4	So that's both .	costing
-D	1583.2	Come on , it's perfect .	costing
-D	1584.33	Uh twelve point three point three .	costing
-A	1585.68	Yeah , and single curved curved .	costing
-C	1587.38	But but is it inc Does it include a a homestation or Can we make that for uh h twenty cents ?	costing
-A	1591.38	No , that's not on the list .	costing
-A	1592.55	But that shouldn't be .	costing
-B	1595.88	Yeah , we can uh Um different fronts , but standard front won't be , yeah .	costing
-A	1596.98	Probably .	costing
-A	1597.34	I just The b the button supplements , I didn't I d I was wondering if this special colour maybe was I'm not sure .	costing
-A	1608.24	See it's I think it's okay like this .	costing
-D	1608.56	Special form , yeah .	costing
-A	1611.04	It's hard to say .	costing
-A	1611.84	But maybe we have to um Yeah , okay .	costing
-A	1616.04	Special colour , you can skip this one , because it's all quite normal .	costing
-B	1619.58	Yeah .	costing
-A	1620.15	We get different ones , that's all .	costing
-A	1623.3	So you can put a recharger in it as well .	costing
-A	1627.51	But this is expensive , the sample speaker .	costing
-C	1630.46	Yeah .	costing
-B	1631.35	This ?	costing
-A	1632.36	Yeah .	costing
-C	1632.41	Yeah , it's four .	costing
-D	1632.73	Four .	costing
-D	1633.43	It's four Euros .	costing
-B	1635.79	Oh , them .	costing
-B	1637.46	Is that uh included ?	costing
-D	1638.44	Yeah .	costing
-B	1639.66	In the twelve Euro or Okay , then we then we need to use it .	costing
-D	1640.3	So we are Okay .	costing evaluation of project process
-A	1640.72	Yeah , that's included .	costing
-C	1641.24	It's kind of weird that we we get this information now , afterwards .	costing
-C	1646.01	Because Sure .	costing evaluation of project process
-A	1646.73	Yeah , no .	costing
-B	1647.23	Yeah .	costing
-A	1648.94	Okay , so this is uh pretty much it this .	costing
-B	1652.94	Damn , solar cells are uh expensive .	costing
-A	1654.93	So I just want you Yeah , we just made it .	costing
-A	1659.7	So we can do the project evalu evaluation now for uh for everything together .	evaluation of project process
-A	1673.23	Okay .	evaluation of project process
-A	1676.91	We can do some discussion about this .	evaluation of project process
-A	1680.59	Was there room for creativity ?	evaluation of project process
-D	1686.32	Yes .	evaluation of project process
-B	1694.01	Okay .	evaluation of project process
-A	1697.95	Paul , was there room for crea creativity ?	evaluation of project process
-C	1698.03	Beautiful .	evaluation of project process
-B	1700.2	Mm uh i Yeah , I think so .	evaluation of project process
-B	1702.1	I think uh everyone uh already .	evaluation of project process
-B	1704.78	So I think we uh discussed a lot of things about it .	evaluation of project process
-C	1706.2	Yeah m If we got a high mark for um uh innovativeness or innovativity then there we probably have been creative .	evaluation of project process
-A	1714.59	Yeah .	evaluation of project process
-D	1715.2	Or a different style .	evaluation of project process
-B	1718.99	So Of course there was .	evaluation of project process
-C	1719.52	Yeah .	evaluation of project process
-D	1719.83	Yeah .	evaluation of project process
-D	1721.78	We could make a lot of different uh remote controls .	evaluation of project process
-A	1724.81	Yeah .	evaluation of project process
-D	1725.57	So it's creativity .	evaluation of project process
-C	1729.04	Huh .	evaluation of project process
-A	1737.11	Okay , so the leadership Was there a leadership and Okay .	evaluation of project process
-A	1747.66	What do you have to say about that ?	evaluation of project process
-C	1748.9	No , I think Yeah .	evaluation of project process
-D	1748.9	Who was the leader ?	evaluation of project process
-A	1750.54	I dunno .	evaluation of project process
-C	1753.45	Just normal discussion , I think .	evaluation of project process
-C	1755.26	Not one leader or something .	evaluation of project process
-B	1756.09	Yeah .	evaluation of project process
-B	1759.42	One leader to check the time , etcetera .	evaluation of project process
-C	1764.45	Yeah .	evaluation of project process
-C	1765.24	And make notes .	evaluation of project process
-A	1767.07	Yeah , I know .	evaluation of project process
-B	1770.05	So more like a secretary .	evaluation of project process
-C	1771.81	Yeah .	evaluation of project process
-A	1774.89	Okay , next one .	evaluation of project process
-A	1776.38	Uh team work um The the third meeting I think that one was pretty hard .	evaluation of project process
-A	1781.45	We were not all We were not um agree with every not agree with .	evaluation of project process
-D	1785.07	Yeah yeah .	evaluation of project process
-D	1786.48	We were not finished .	evaluation of project process
-C	1786.94	Yeah , w we had so much information , that we get through email and just Yeah .	evaluation of project process
-A	1787.5	We're not finished .	evaluation of project process
-D	1789.88	Uh .	evaluation of project process
-B	1792.26	Uh I think we we got wrong information at the wrong time .	evaluation of project process
-B	1795.98	I think that was the m biggest problem .	evaluation of project process
-A	1798.59	Yeah .	evaluation of project process
-B	1798.71	Like uh the prices .	evaluation of project process
-B	1800.12	If we knew that before , we could have uh had discussion really uh s really quicker .	evaluation of project process
-C	1802.76	Yeah , th that's weird .	evaluation of project process
-D	1807.2	Yeah , because the prices uh could be twenty Euros or something now .	evaluation of project process
-B	1811.95	Yeah , and if you had uh fifteen Euros , then we would it .	evaluation of project process
-D	1812.4	And then Yeah .	evaluation of project process
-B	1814.72	We had to Yeah .	evaluation of project process
-C	1815.48	Hmm hmm yeah .	evaluation of project process
-A	1817.99	Yeah , finance .	evaluation of project process
-C	1819.52	So we're bacal basically just lucky to uh get the price right .	evaluation of project process
-A	1825.62	But the teamwork was okay .	evaluation of project process
-D	1827.13	Yeah , uh everybody could speak their uh opinion .	evaluation of project process
-D	1830.32	And uh Yeah .	evaluation of project process
-B	1831.8	I think uh everyone listen to each other .	evaluation of project process
-C	1834.28	Yeah .	evaluation of project process
-B	1834.89	Like marketing said things and then we had to i include them in the design .	evaluation of project process
-A	1839.46	Yeah .	evaluation of project process
-A	1841.35	'Kay .	evaluation of project process
-A	1842.84	Yeah , what I have to say about uh means .	evaluation of project process
-A	1845.51	The smart board is okay .	evaluation of project process
-A	1847.73	Digital pen is horrible .	evaluation of project process
-A	1848.82	I dunno if you use it .	evaluation of project process
-A	1849.65	But if you want to download it to your computer , it's doesn't work .	evaluation of project process
-B	1854.21	It was Just doesn't work .	evaluation of project process
-A	1855.83	No .	evaluation of project process
-B	1856.07	Well uh smart board would be very uh nice to work with , if it worked really well .	evaluation of project process
-D	1856.65	Digital pen or Yeah , the drawings are are hard to make , I think .	evaluation of project process
-C	1860.1	Yeah .	evaluation of project process
-C	1863.35	Yeah , i if if it would be faster , it would be great .	evaluation of project process
-B	1863.55	Just not work too slow .	evaluation of project process
-B	1865.31	Yeah , more accurate .	evaluation of project process
-B	1868.34	Yeah , it's i It should be more accurate .	evaluation of project process
-D	1870.85	Precise .	evaluation of project process
-C	1871.08	Yeah .	evaluation of project process
-B	1873.23	And uh I think it would be great if you could edit it from , just with a mouse , from where you're sitting .	evaluation of project process
-A	1878.57	Yeah .	evaluation of project process
-B	1879.73	Not just pointing out on it .	evaluation of project process
-A	1881.26	It's the same for the presenta for the presentations .	evaluation of project process
-A	1883.63	You can do it from here .	evaluation of project process
-A	1884.46	That's much easier than standing there .	evaluation of project process
-B	1886.04	Yeah .	evaluation of project process
-A	1886.86	And so you've Yeah .	evaluation of project process
-C	1887.86	Yeah , and p just point with a mouse .	evaluation of project process
-B	1894.07	No use to draw on the board itself .	evaluation of project process
-B	1896.38	It's just slows down .	evaluation of project process
-C	1897.98	Yeah .	evaluation of project process
-C	1899.81	Just old fashioned kinda blackboard style .	evaluation of project process
-B	1902.11	Yeah .	evaluation of project process
-C	1903.9	But you might as well do it in normal computer style .	evaluation of project process
-A	1904.24	Yeah , like .	evaluation of project process
-B	1908.06	Yeah , even harder to draw like this than black board style .	evaluation of project process
-C	1909.63	Yeah .	evaluation of project process
-C	1910.31	Yeah .	evaluation of project process
-C	1912.24	And it's far too slow this way .	evaluation of project process
-B	1914.27	Yeah .	evaluation of project process
-A	1916.0	Okay .	evaluation of project process
-B	1917.06	You cou You could draw on it , but not as main function .	evaluation of project process
-C	1920.32	No .	evaluation of project process
-A	1921.28	I think Yeah , okay .	evaluation of project process
-D	1923.66	Digital pen .	evaluation of project process
-A	1929.19	So we made it in time .	evaluation of project process
-A	1931.01	And we made a remote control .	evaluation of project process
-B	1934.28	We did it .	evaluation of project process
-A	1936.09	In the budget , yeah .	evaluation of project process
-B	1939.11	New ideas found .	evaluation of project process
-D	1942.77	New ideas .	evaluation of project process
-C	1944.56	What's that ?	evaluation of project process
-B	1944.82	Oh I just think if we uh I dunno .	evaluation of project process
-D	1944.94	For for for To gather , or to uh work together , uh or new ideas for No , for the prototype .	evaluation of project process
-A	1945.9	I don't know what it mean .	evaluation of project process
-A	1947.57	Just For remote control probably .	evaluation of project process
-A	1961.61	No , for the project .	evaluation of project process
-B	1963.64	For remote control , a favourite for your text .	evaluation of project process
-C	1970.91	Hmm .	evaluation of project process
-D	1973.51	New ideas .	evaluation of project process
-C	1977.52	Yeah , but still , you couldn't make a fancy a f you couldn't make a a prototype out of this .	evaluation of project process
-C	1982.49	Because we don't have any sizes and Yeah , but it You can't possibly do that in such a short time , I think .	evaluation of project process
-A	1986.48	Yeah .	evaluation of project process
-A	1987.33	But it's for the next team .	evaluation of project process
-A	1988.7	We don't have to do that .	evaluation of project process
-B	1989.26	That's for .	evaluation of project process
-B	1998.88	Yeah , this this is just the idea phase , the Yeah .	evaluation of project process
-C	2001.8	Yeah , just brainstorming basically .	evaluation of project process
-B	2006.29	Details uh Quite early .	evaluation of project process closing
-C	2021.69	So are we finished ?	closing
-D	2023.19	Hmm .	closing
-A	2023.79	Yes , I think just I just write a final report .	closing
-C	2026.89	Okay .	closing
-C	2028.24	Yeah .	closing
-A	2029.16	No , we have only four minutes left .	closing
-A	2032.96	Uh it's okay .	closing
-C	2034.35	Oh okay .	closing
-B	2035.35	Oh , what do we have to do now .	closing
-B	2036.97	Do we uh I thought we were done at four o'clock ?	closing
-C	2041.98	It's now quarter past three .	closing
-C	2044.44	So Yeah .	chitchat closing
-B	2044.98	Yep .	closing
-D	2049.72	I should take some pictures uh .	closing
-A	2051.63	Okay .	closing
-B	2052.77	Mm we can do it afterwards , so Yeah .	chitchat closing
-D	2053.98	Yes .	closing
-D	2059.28	Let's play minesweeper .	chitchat
-B	2062.0	I found it as well .	chitchat
-D	2065.73	Ti-din ti-din .	chitchat
-B	2086.09	One two three four five six seven cameras .	chitchat
-B	2095.34	Mm not bad .	chitchat
-B	2184.82	So that was it .	chitchat
-C	2188.2	Now we can look at this .	chitchat
-B	2199.43	This is The old versions .	chitchat
-C	2200.68	We're probably not supposed to look at this , but Yeah , from the previous group .	chitchat
-B	2208.3	They went for uh for a universal device .	chitchat
-C	2213.91	The touchscreen , yeah .	chitchat
-B	2215.19	Yeah , but also a different device .	chitchat
-C	2217.74	Yeah .	chitchat
-B	2219.12	Then an L_C_D_ uh would be handy .	chitchat
-C	2221.77	Hmm .	chitchat
-C	2223.98	Here are the basic functions in here , the selecting dev devices .	chitchat
-B	2229.24	Yeah , and touch screens for all our stuff , yeah .	chitchat
-C	2232.01	Hmm .	chitchat
-B	2233.1	I do agree with that .	chitchat
-B	2258.02	Yeah , tu-dum .	chitchat
-B	2261.82	English is not so hard by the way .	chitchat
-C	2263.92	No .	chitchat
-D	2269.48	I'm breaking a world record here .	chitchat
-B	2276.43	Well , leader ?	chitchat
-D	2281.24	Oh shit .	chitchat
-B	2281.25	Project Manager ?	chitchat
-D	2285.35	We've got a problem , Paul .	chitchat
-B	2287.18	You do ?	chitchat
-B	2287.35	Yeah , you have to make a choice .	chitchat
-D	2287.77	Yes .	chitchat
-D	2290.12	No it's your choice .	chitchat
-B	2291.57	Wow , that's pretty quick .	chitchat
-D	2293.44	Tu-dum .	chitchat
-B	2296.59	Uh uh um You have to decide .	chitchat
-D	2298.22	Just pick one .	chitchat
-B	2303.74	It's the lower one .	chitchat
-D	2305.83	What's this ?	chitchat
-D	2306.57	A bomb or not a bo This the bomb ?	chitchat
-B	2307.52	No no , the upper one is the bomb .	chitchat
-B	2309.58	Yes .	chitchat
-D	2311.98	Wrong .	chitchat
-D	2313.5	Shit .	chitchat
-B	2315.01	I knew it .	chitchat
-D	2315.86	I knew it .	chitchat
-D	2328.18	Four in a row .	chitchat
-B	2335.5	No .	chitchat
-D	2335.95	Uh .	chitchat
-B	2336.33	That's too much work .	chitchat
-B	2343.14	Come on .	chitchat
-D	2344.41	Is that previous work ?	chitchat
-C	2346.53	Yeah , this one .	chitchat
-B	2347.61	I challenge you .	chitchat
-D	2353.61	Oh , that's so stupid .	chitchat
-D	2359.28	No , that doesn't work .	chitchat
-B	2361.55	No , you gotta use the magic pen .	chitchat
-B	2365.75	Hmm .	chitchat
-B	2367.93	What if I put one there ?	chitchat
-D	2374.27	That's stupid .	chitchat
-B	2377.0	We'll see .	chitchat
-D	2377.81	Okay .	chitchat
-B	2383.44	I don't agree .	chitchat
-D	2389.46	Mm .	chitchat
-D	2398.49	Sorry .	chitchat
-B	2398.6	Yeah , you had two choices .	chitchat
-B	2406.54	That's gonna be draw .	chitchat
-B	2414.26	Or not .	chitchat
-C	2416.23	Hmm .	chitchat
-D	2419.7	Too bad .	chitchat
-B	2422.88	I'll put it here .	chitchat
-D	2425.29	Yeah , then I put it there .	chitchat
-B	2425.58	You are going to put it there .	chitchat
-B	2428.5	Then It's a difficult choice , either here or there .	chitchat
-D	2430.29	No one wins .	chitchat
-C	2438.05	This is a very interesting design .	chitchat
-B	2449.59	Ugly .	chitchat
-D	2451.07	It's just the same as normal .	chitchat
-B	2453.72	Oh a pen .	chitchat
-C	2454.43	Well it has a L_C_D_ , I think .	chitchat
-B	2456.65	Yeah , but Then do it correctly .	chitchat
-D	2456.93	Okay .	chitchat
-D	2463.3	Stupid design .	chitchat
-C	2463.54	And what else do we have ?	chitchat
-D	2464.08	Stupid .	chitchat
-B	2464.64	Stupid , the L_C_D_ screen .	chitchat
-D	2473.42	'Kay wait , I'm going to draw something and you must y Okay , blank .	chitchat
-B	2478.34	What ?	chitchat
-B	2480.27	Okay , I'm going to guess what you're drawing .	chitchat
-B	2484.03	No no , the new one .	chitchat
-D	2485.61	Oh .	chitchat
-B	2486.98	Uh they just don't save it .	chitchat
-D	2492.34	Um I know uh .	chitchat
-B	2498.94	A house ?	chitchat
-B	2502.03	Yeah , you have to use the pen s stupid .	chitchat
-A	2503.63	You have to save everything , you know that , huh ?	chitchat
-B	2506.31	No , not everything .	chitchat
-D	2508.57	Oh .	chitchat
-C	2508.7	Yeah , everything .	chitchat
-B	2510.99	Pen , select select pen .	chitchat
-D	2511.47	Pen .	chitchat
-C	2512.92	It wants to know what we do in our spare time .	chitchat
-B	2515.88	Okay .	chitchat
-B	2518.59	It's a house .	chitchat
-B	2521.69	A plant ?	chitchat
-D	2522.66	No , it's Only you can know it .	chitchat
-B	2525.73	Oh yeah , I can know it .	chitchat
-B	2533.16	It's a Okay , that makes it easier .	chitchat
-D	2535.6	It's uh very hard to draw .	chitchat
-B	2547.23	I think I know .	chitchat
-B	2548.72	No , wrong .	chitchat
-D	2555.94	Mm .	chitchat
-B	2557.0	I think I know what you're trying to draw , but it's wrong already .	chitchat
-D	2560.87	It's very Fuck .	chitchat
-B	2568.67	Yeah , you missed the right side .	chitchat
-D	2575.57	F A little bit maybe , but Yeah .	chitchat
-B	2579.92	No , you're wrong , you're wrong See where you're wrong now ?	chitchat
-B	2602.1	The entrance .	chitchat
-C	2604.75	Warning .	chitchat
-C	2605.2	Finish meeting now .	chitchat
-B	2607.85	Alright .	chitchat
-D	2608.69	Okay , the entrance is uh more to the left .	chitchat
-C	2611.66	Warning .	chitchat
-C	2612.39	Warning .	chitchat
-B	2613.08	You're correct .	chitchat
-D	2614.79	Okay .	chitchat
-D	2616.14	But but but I think this part Oh .	chitchat
-B	2621.54	Yeah , but I think Oh no you made another mistake .	chitchat
-D	2629.03	Yeah , there are a lot of mistakes , because the walls are thick like this .	chitchat
-B	2633.21	No I w Okay , I'm not that whiny .	chitchat
-B	2636.81	But uh there was a big hole here as well , and there as well .	chitchat
-D	2639.65	Oh , that's true .	chitchat
-D	2641.06	Uh here .	chitchat
-B	2641.79	That's a kinda big mistake .	chitchat
-D	2642.57	Yeah , they're walking behind the walls .	chitchat
-B	2647.14	Warning , finish meeting now .	closing
-B	2651.36	Guys , I think we have to finish the meeting .	closing
-C	2654.38	Okay .	closing
-D	2657.47	'Kay this is a hard one .	closing
-B	2660.74	Uh ?	closing
-C	2664.78	Boom-boa-ring-bing .	closing
-B	2667.9	What does it say ?	closing
-C	2669.48	Fill in the questionnaire .	closing
-C	2675.68	What now ?	closing
-B	2678.59	Come on .	closing
-A	2687.4	Okay , yeah .	closing
-C	2688.1	Okay .	closing
-B	2688.33	Yep .	closing
-D	2688.5	Okay .	closing
-C	2692.08	No more chit-chat .	closing
-B	2693.52	Oh you gotta finish over there ?	closing
-D	2694.02	Che-che-che-che .	closing
-C	2697.51	Yeah .	closing
-B	2697.68	In your own room ?	closing
-D	2700.8	Tu-dumm .	closing
-B	2700.84	I'm gonna be so lonely .	closing
-D	2705.15	Uh .	closing
-B	2706.09	Mm I'll clean that up later .	closing
-D	2710.78	This is That's my new interface .	closing
-B	2713.48	What's that ?	closing
-D	2715.56	That's a uh edited smiley .	closing
-D	2728.86	Tom-ti-dom .	closing
-D	2731.86	Uh .	closing
-C	2739.71	Okay .	closing

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-B	35.7	Mm uh .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	42.15	We're the first .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	43.14	Mm .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	44.82	We're the first ones .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	47.66	Marketing Expert , yes .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	51.73	Mm .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	64.32	So you found your spots .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	65.92	Yes .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	74.69	Move to the meeting room .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	74.79	Bling bling .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	76.2	Yeah .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	77.83	Okay .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	81.76	Right .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	83.16	Okay .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	85.14	Uh where has my screen gone ?	agenda/equipment issues
-C	89.63	Hi .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	91.63	Hello , good day .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	93.86	Oh yeah , we have to talk in English , huh .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	94.67	Hmm .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	96.81	Yep .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	96.95	Yeah .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	98.27	My screen is gone .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	101.35	Oh .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	101.48	It's called black .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	104.39	Kick-off meeting , wow .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	106.91	I'm afraid I'm a bit slow for this stuff uh .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	106.94	It's uh looks uh nice .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	110.99	Hmm ?	agenda/equipment issues
-A	111.26	Okay .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	111.63	I'm afraid I'm a bit too slow .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	113.33	I don't know how much preparation you guys did , but not a lot .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	114.96	Yeah .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	115.57	Yeah .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	116.38	No , it's it was uh not enough .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	117.99	You see this beautiful presentation .	opening
-D	120.06	Yeah .	opening
-D	121.04	Very nice .	opening
-A	121.23	Okay let's get started .	opening
-D	123.28	Yeah .	opening
-A	125.0	Uh I sort of prepared this .	opening
-A	128.39	Uh opening acquaintance , tool training , uh how to use the things here .	opening
-D	134.58	Mm .	opening
-A	134.9	Uh project plan discussion , and yeah then the rest of the meeting .	opening
-C	140.79	Mm-hmm .	opening
-A	141.6	Um we're supposed to develop a new remote control , that's both original , trendy and user-friendly .	opening
-A	149.14	So , hope you have good ideas .	opening
-A	151.87	I don't .	opening
-B	152.08	I did my best .	opening
-A	153.89	Um we're work we're working uh from top to bottom .	opening
-C	155.12	Not yet .	opening
-A	158.64	Uh functional design , then we do some in individual work , then we have a meeting to discuss the results , etcetera etcetera .	opening
-A	166.73	And at the end of the day we should have a prototype drawn up .	opening
-A	172.13	Uh we have available the smart board and the whiteboard .	opening
-A	176.62	Um uh we should take some practice .	opening
-A	181.11	I have some instructions now to do that .	opening
-D	183.09	Yeah .	opening
-A	184.55	Uh well you know how to the documents work .	opening
-A	187.36	So Uh this for toolbar .	drawing exercise
-A	191.28	You see it next .	drawing exercise
-A	192.56	Um we have a pen .	drawing exercise
-A	197.65	And we can use this pen to perform .	drawing exercise
-C	202.73	Operations .	drawing exercise
-A	202.87	Yes .	drawing exercise
-A	204.34	So It doesn't always work .	drawing exercise
-A	212.68	Yes .	drawing exercise
-D	212.77	Yeah .	drawing exercise
-A	213.85	Okay so you can draw .	drawing exercise
-D	217.4	Draw .	drawing exercise
-A	218.21	Okay and in the format menu you can select colour and line width , etcetera etcetera .	drawing exercise
-D	218.3	Alright .	drawing exercise
-D	223.84	'Kay .	drawing exercise
-A	224.31	Okay ?	drawing exercise
-A	225.6	Uh Okay .	drawing exercise
-A	232.11	Each of you can uh take some practice and you should draw an animal .	drawing exercise
-A	237.44	Uh you should explain Uh with different colours and with different pen widths .	drawing exercise
-A	241.96	And you should explain why you draw that particular animal .	drawing exercise
-A	246.53	So , Julian .	drawing exercise
-B	247.86	Okay .	drawing exercise
-D	249.06	Don't take up too much space .	drawing exercise
-B	251.01	Um yeah .	drawing exercise
-C	254.62	Different pen widths , how do you do that ?	drawing exercise
-A	257.02	Uh with the format menu .	drawing exercise
-C	258.33	Oh okay .	drawing exercise
-A	261.47	And use different colours etcetera .	drawing exercise
-C	266.27	Are you serious ?	drawing exercise
-A	266.36	And what's that supposed to be ?	drawing exercise
-B	270.27	It's a giraffe .	drawing exercise
-D	270.62	Should it be one Giraffe's yellow .	drawing exercise
-B	271.85	Yeah .	drawing exercise
-A	271.86	Oh yeah .	drawing exercise
-A	274.71	Oh yeah four legs .	drawing exercise
-B	275.41	Okay .	drawing exercise
-A	275.63	Uh-huh .	drawing exercise
-B	277.12	Uh it needs some uh some yellow uh Oh format .	drawing exercise
-D	282.36	Can you use one blank sheet per drawing ?	drawing exercise
-D	284.81	Or so y you must save it at the end and then Okay , then m make a new one .	drawing exercise
-A	284.86	Yeah .	drawing exercise
-A	287.67	Yeah you can press the next button , which is uh yeah .	drawing exercise
-B	291.91	That's some spots .	drawing exercise
-A	292.29	I'll show you .	drawing exercise
-C	292.52	I in the file option menu .	drawing exercise
-A	293.56	Yeah .	drawing exercise
-A	294.32	In file menu .	drawing exercise
-B	296.73	No .	drawing exercise
-C	297.96	How much time do we have to draw anyway ?	drawing exercise
-C	299.9	'Cause I can take forever on this .	drawing exercise
-A	300.96	Yeah .	drawing exercise
-B	303.0	Okay .	drawing exercise
-B	303.15	Do I have to explain uh why I chose this uh this animal ?	drawing exercise
-A	306.26	Yeah .	drawing exercise
-B	307.53	I think it's a it's a great animal .	drawing exercise
-A	309.39	What is it ?	drawing exercise
-B	310.79	It's a it's a giraffe .	drawing exercise
-A	311.99	A giraffe okay .	drawing exercise
-B	313.52	Yeah , that's a Um Okay I'll will give it an uh an eye .	drawing exercise
-A	313.74	Yeah I see a long neck but Okay .	drawing exercise
-D	315.28	It's more like a dinosaur .	drawing exercise
-D	324.11	Uh .	drawing exercise
-A	324.21	That's nice of you .	drawing exercise
-B	325.02	Hey .	drawing exercise
-B	325.46	Come on .	drawing exercise
-D	325.8	Some leaf to eat .	drawing exercise
-A	328.17	Okay .	drawing exercise
-A	328.7	Yeah pretty good .	drawing exercise
-A	330.7	Uh could you press the next uh Okay .	drawing exercise
-B	332.82	The next ?	drawing exercise
-B	334.21	Yes .	drawing exercise
-A	335.89	Then uh .	drawing exercise
-D	337.06	Yeah .	drawing exercise
-B	337.38	Here you go .	drawing exercise
-D	338.15	Thanks .	drawing exercise
-B	340.85	Hmm .	drawing exercise
-D	342.26	Yeah .	drawing exercise
-C	350.13	Is this part of our a acquai or introduction to each other ?	drawing exercise
-A	353.28	Yeah sorry , introduction and get acquainted and That's the idea , so Yeah it's a bit slow , so Yeah .	drawing exercise
-D	354.34	Uh Yeah .	drawing exercise
-C	356.65	Alright .	drawing exercise
-C	365.47	Uh .	drawing exercise
-C	367.3	Your line broke .	drawing exercise
-D	370.94	Alright .	drawing exercise
-D	372.25	It's not that fast .	drawing exercise
-D	373.5	Yeah .	drawing exercise
-D	376.31	I see .	drawing exercise
-D	377.67	It misses the spot .	drawing exercise
-A	379.75	pressure .	drawing exercise
-C	380.01	I'm guessing a turtle .	drawing exercise
-C	382.52	No .	drawing exercise
-C	383.74	I'm kidding .	drawing exercise
-D	385.35	I say good guess .	drawing exercise
-D	388.9	Uh Because it's slow .	drawing exercise
-A	389.8	Why a turtle ?	drawing exercise
-C	391.46	Because of its shell .	drawing exercise
-A	394.25	It's slow .	drawing exercise
-B	394.3	'Cause it's so 'cause it's green .	drawing exercise
-A	395.56	You were slow too so Yeah sure .	drawing exercise
-D	396.65	Yeah I was a bit slow too .	drawing exercise
-C	398.61	Dude you're a good drawer .	drawing exercise
-D	398.83	So Uh some other line uh width uh No .	drawing exercise
-C	408.93	Do you have a turtle pet ?	drawing exercise
-C	412.34	Uh okay .	drawing exercise
-D	416.5	I dunno .	drawing exercise
-D	417.38	Does it have legs ?	drawing exercise
-C	418.59	Yeah yeah yeah .	drawing exercise
-D	419.47	Yeah ?	drawing exercise
-A	420.18	Yeah not exactly legs but More like fins or Yeah .	drawing exercise
-C	422.95	Stumpy stuff .	drawing exercise
-D	424.57	It's more like a tank .	drawing exercise
-D	427.85	Yeah that's fins but I don't know where .	drawing exercise
-C	429.14	They kind of l look like mole legs .	drawing exercise
-C	431.78	With sharp nails on .	drawing exercise
-D	434.69	Some spots .	drawing exercise
-D	437.36	Ah some eye .	drawing exercise
-A	441.34	Yeah it's l looks very friendly .	drawing exercise
-D	441.94	Yeah that's a fr friendly turtle I guess .	drawing exercise
-D	448.72	Yeah well I think it's uh fair enough .	drawing exercise
-A	452.08	Yeah okay .	drawing exercise
-C	452.91	A little tail maybe .	drawing exercise
-D	459.25	Right .	drawing exercise
-D	460.12	I don't know what the position is .	drawing exercise
-D	465.88	Does it have ears ?	drawing exercise
-C	467.39	Uh no .	drawing exercise
-A	468.01	No .	drawing exercise
-D	468.2	No .	drawing exercise
-B	468.35	No .	drawing exercise
-D	468.67	Oh okay .	drawing exercise
-C	469.21	The little holes maybe .	drawing exercise
-D	469.64	Can you erase ears or Yeah ?	drawing exercise
-A	471.21	Yeah yeah yeah .	drawing exercise
-A	471.78	There's a a gum , gum to .	drawing exercise
-D	473.92	Alright .	drawing exercise
-D	474.67	Eraser .	drawing exercise
-C	477.22	And why did you choose this animal ?	drawing exercise
-D	477.38	So I dunno .	drawing exercise
-A	480.32	He said it was slow .	drawing exercise
-D	480.91	I it just came into my mind .	drawing exercise
-D	483.29	So there's no particular reason I pen .	drawing exercise
-C	484.29	Alright .	drawing exercise
-A	493.08	I like it .	drawing exercise
-D	494.14	Yeah .	drawing exercise
-D	495.7	Well I'm guess I'm done .	drawing exercise
-A	497.44	Okay .	drawing exercise
-D	498.15	That's my turtle .	drawing exercise
-A	500.16	Your turn Niels .	drawing exercise
-C	500.49	Alright .	drawing exercise
-D	501.61	How to select the next or here .	drawing exercise
-A	502.95	The next yeah .	drawing exercise
-D	504.61	Yeah .	drawing exercise
-D	505.61	Here you go .	drawing exercise
-A	506.04	Makes new paper .	drawing exercise
-C	506.55	Colours were under format right ?	drawing exercise
-A	508.33	Yeah .	drawing exercise
-C	510.31	Let's see .	drawing exercise
-A	512.78	Orange .	drawing exercise
-C	513.31	How am I gonna do this ?	drawing exercise
-C	515.18	Um Mm uh .	drawing exercise
-B	534.96	A rabbit I think .	drawing exercise
-A	536.04	Kangaroo .	drawing exercise
-B	536.85	Kangaroo .	drawing exercise
-C	538.5	Not quite actually .	drawing exercise
-B	540.56	Fox .	drawing exercise
-D	541.22	A fox yeah .	drawing exercise
-D	543.1	Firefox .	drawing exercise
-A	543.4	Dog .	drawing exercise
-C	544.87	No .	drawing exercise
-A	545.62	Cat .	drawing exercise
-C	546.19	Aye .	drawing exercise
-A	548.58	It's a cat .	drawing exercise
-C	549.36	It's a cat .	drawing exercise
-B	549.88	Mm .	drawing exercise
-C	551.01	Not quite yet through .	drawing exercise
-D	551.06	A cat who had an accident or Yeah .	project specs and roles of participants drawing exercise
-A	554.72	Why a cat ?	drawing exercise
-C	556.23	Uh yeah I dunno .	drawing exercise
-C	557.52	They're my favourite pets .	drawing exercise
-A	559.93	You have some uh ?	drawing exercise
-C	560.79	Uh I have colour already .	drawing exercise
-C	564.67	Yeah I'm not so good at drawing with this kind of st Oh shit .	drawing exercise
-C	568.46	Um Excuse my language .	drawing exercise
-A	569.22	The pen , yeah .	drawing exercise
-A	572.75	Sure .	drawing exercise
-C	574.37	I don't know how to draw its face .	drawing exercise
-C	575.6	But you get the idea .	drawing exercise
-C	576.43	It's a cat .	drawing exercise
-A	576.55	Yeah .	drawing exercise
-C	577.89	It's my favourite uh pet animal , 'cause they're cute , they're independent and cuddly , I dunno .	drawing exercise
-A	578.07	Alright .	drawing exercise
-A	584.43	Okay .	drawing exercise
-C	586.44	That's it .	drawing exercise
-C	587.42	Or do I need to use more colours and Alright .	drawing exercise
-A	587.8	Yeah .	drawing exercise
-A	590.78	I think it's okay .	drawing exercise
-A	592.42	You get idea right ?	drawing exercise
-C	593.38	Yeah .	drawing exercise
-A	595.08	Okay um we have a financial aspect to this project .	project budget
-A	601.97	Um we can sell them at twenty five Euros .	project budget
-A	605.57	Uh the aim is to reach uh uh to sell as much as fifty million Euros .	project budget
-A	613.2	Uh that's quite a big amount of money .	project budget
-A	617.39	And the production cost should be the half of the selling price .	project budget
-C	626.09	So we have to s Yeah .	project specs and roles of participants project budget
-A	626.42	Okay now it's time for some discussion .	project specs and roles of participants
-B	640.45	Okay .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	641.39	Uh Yeah .	project specs and roles of participants
-B	641.44	What uh what uh do you want to discuss ?	project specs and roles of participants
-A	646.17	We should get started .	project specs and roles of participants
-B	648.17	Yep .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	651.22	Uh I'm taking notes .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	652.7	Okay .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	653.33	Great .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	654.28	Um we each have a specific task , as I saw in my mail .	project specs and roles of participants
-C	661.58	Mm-hmm .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	661.64	I didn't know if you received the same mail .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	661.93	Yeah .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	663.98	Yeah ?	project specs and roles of participants
-D	664.01	Yeah .	project specs and roles of participants
-C	664.42	I guess so .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	664.93	Okay so the um uh this industrati Industrial Designer should produce a working design .	project specs and roles of participants
-C	665.03	Yeah .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	674.52	Am I correct ?	project specs and roles of participants
-C	676.18	True .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	676.8	Okay .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	677.97	Uh the User Interface Designer should specify the technical functions .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	684.42	Right ?	project specs and roles of participants
-B	684.8	Yep .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	684.94	Yeah ?	project specs and roles of participants
-A	686.35	And the Marketing uh Expert should come up with user requirements .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	693.25	Yeah .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	694.11	Uh did any of you already do some work on this part or Mm-hmm .	project specs and roles of participants
-C	700.13	Well I started making an overview for myself , um what I had to do , 'cause we have three design steps and in every step I have a s specific task to perform or whatever .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	711.95	Mm-hmm .	project specs and roles of participants
-C	712.2	So I had to uh , I dunno , make an overview for myself about what I have to do , and kind of let it work in to get ideas about well how I have to fill it .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	716.1	Mm-hmm .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	722.26	Mm-hmm .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	723.04	And do you have any ideas about the product uh so far ?	project specs and roles of participants
-C	725.62	Well I started I started with the first phase , I think was the functional .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	729.6	Mm-hmm .	project specs and roles of participants
-C	730.02	And uh let's see I had to focus on the working design , which you said .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	737.06	Mm-hmm .	project specs and roles of participants
-C	738.09	How does the apparatus work ?	project specs and roles of participants
-C	740.2	And well I basically had two points .	project specs and roles of participants
-C	743.05	Uh according to the coffee uh machine example , I have batteries to supply energy , and we ye use button presses to activate or deactivate certain functions on the T_V_ .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	747.58	Yeah .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	747.67	Yeah .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	757.13	Mm-hmm .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	758.53	Okay .	project specs and roles of participants
-C	758.57	And that's basically all I have so far .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	760.92	Yeah I got another point .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	762.46	It uses infrared light to communicate the signal to the T_V_ apparatus or stereo .	project specs and roles of participants
-B	764.72	Yeah .	project specs and roles of participants
-B	765.17	Wireless uh huh .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	765.32	Yeah .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	766.78	Yeah .	project specs and roles of participants
-C	767.14	Alright .	project specs and roles of participants
-C	770.34	Yeah .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	770.75	So that's very common .	project specs and roles of participants
-B	771.71	Uh it's uh some buttons for for the on off function .	project specs and roles of participants
-B	774.6	You d you already told that .	project specs and roles of participants
-B	776.17	And for the changing up to the to all the channels and changing the volume .	project specs and roles of participants
-B	783.06	That are the the basic options for a remote control .	project specs and roles of participants
-C	783.09	Yeah .	project specs and roles of participants
-C	785.63	Yeah I kept it global 'cause that it activates or deactivates specific functions , 'cause I wasn't thinking yet about that .	project specs and roles of participants
-B	790.38	Okay , yeah .	project specs and roles of participants
-C	792.43	I mean , you wanna ch ch flip the channel but you might wanna use teletext also .	project specs and roles of participants
-B	793.67	Yeah .	project specs and roles of participants
-B	797.26	Yep .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	797.6	Yeah .	project specs and roles of participants
-C	798.46	I dunno what the word is in English .	project specs and roles of participants
-C	799.96	Uh Yeah .	look and usability project specs and roles of participants
-A	802.83	Same I believe .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	803.93	Yeah .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	807.18	Uh and what did the Marketing Expert do ?	project specs and roles of participants
-D	810.12	Uh well from a marketing uh perspective , um well the function des design phase uh consists out of the user requirements .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	819.36	Mm-hmm .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	819.69	Um what needs and desires are to be fulfilled ?	project specs and roles of participants
-D	823.52	So there are a few means to reach that um by by doing research uh to see what existing products are there out in the market .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	828.97	Mm-hmm .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	833.4	I mean , what functions do they have .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	834.7	Mm .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	835.76	Um especially what are their shortcomings ?	project specs and roles of participants
-D	838.41	Are there any new functions uh which can be added to our product ?	project specs and roles of participants
-A	839.3	Mm-hmm .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	842.92	Mm-hmm .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	844.16	Um therefore we have to to do some internet search .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	848.53	Yep .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	848.71	For example for um well what kind of applications do current remote controls support , and what are f featur features of uh current and future televisions ?	project specs and roles of participants
-A	858.92	Yes .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	859.44	So we can see uh what needs to be supported .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	862.46	Um and we can interview current users and future users .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	867.0	What w what would they like to see uh on a new remote control ?	project specs and roles of participants
-A	867.92	Okay .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	871.35	Okay .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	871.61	Um especially for future users , uh I'm thinking of early adopters , because they they use new technology first , and they play with a lot of tools and stuff so maybe they have some good ideas to uh to add .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	879.95	Mm-hmm .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	885.48	Okay .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	886.38	And you can get that information ?	project specs and roles of participants
-D	888.43	I think I can get that information , yeah .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	890.05	Okay .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	891.28	That would be very handy .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	891.35	So yeah .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	893.34	Um but have you any idea so far as what uh the user requirements are ?	project specs and roles of participants
-D	898.37	No n not specifically .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	900.16	More to how to get them and Yeah ?	look and usability project specs and roles of participants
-A	900.24	No ?	project specs and roles of participants
-A	901.79	No okay .	look and usability
-B	901.89	I got some uh requirements it has uh it has to be user-friendly .	look and usability
-A	903.46	Yeah ?	look and usability
-D	906.07	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	906.32	Of course .	look and usability
-C	906.9	Obviously .	look and usability
-B	907.83	Uh really easy to use buttons , not not uh very small buttons , but not the the also the big big buttons , but just normal buttons .	look and usability
-B	917.3	It has to be a small unit .	look and usability
-B	918.95	It has to be uh yeah , you can take it with you uh everywhere in in your house .	look and usability
-B	923.94	So it has n has not to be l yeah , gigantic uh machine .	look and usability
-A	928.17	Big , mm-hmm .	look and usability
-D	929.04	Yeah .	look and usability
-B	930.24	Uh and a and a good uh zapping range .	look and usability
-A	933.56	Uh what do you mean by that ?	look and usability
-D	934.86	Yeah .	look and usability
-B	935.05	Uh the distance uh from your television to your uh remote control has to be , uh yeah um yeah , quite a big distance .	look and usability
-D	942.8	Yeah .	look and usability
-B	942.83	It has to be capable for zapping uh Yeah .	look and usability
-D	945.88	From the other end of the room or something ?	look and usability
-D	948.24	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	951.41	Okay um Well I don't think I have anything more to add at the moment .	look and usability
-A	962.76	Um I think the best is to go to work .	look and usability
-C	967.41	Whoa .	look and usability
-C	969.31	Is that you or alright .	look and usability
-A	969.95	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	975.13	Okay .	look and usability
-D	976.05	Any more points to discuss ?	look and usability
-A	977.11	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	978.21	I think we can go ahead with what we have .	look and usability
-A	983.39	I will summarise the things we discussed and put it in the project folder .	look and usability
-A	989.52	Uh the use of the Industrial Designer can work on the working design , etcetera etcetera .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	996.43	And it seems you get more information by email .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	1000.49	Alright .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	1000.51	So that was it for me .	project specs and roles of participants
-C	1001.02	Alright .	project specs and roles of participants
-B	1002.22	Okay .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	1005.42	'Kay .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	1005.74	Thanks .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	1007.49	Uh Yeah , in the project folder .	project specs and roles of participants
-B	1007.52	Are you going to put the the notes on the Okay .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	1009.89	Yeah .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	1010.5	The pro okay .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	1011.57	Yeah .	project specs and roles of participants
-C	1012.23	Alright .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	1012.67	I'm writing very fast .	project specs and roles of participants
-B	1014.4	Yeah .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	1014.75	Yeah .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	1015.32	Okay .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	1015.33	Hope it's readable .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	1016.93	Uh .	project specs and roles of participants
-B	1017.02	Yep .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	1017.95	Okay um anything more you want to add to the discussion ?	project specs and roles of participants
-D	1018.49	I guess so .	project specs and roles of participants
-C	1021.97	Well no I'm just a bit wondering what we're gonna do the next uh session ?	project specs and roles of participants
-B	1027.33	Yeah .	project specs and roles of participants
-B	1027.74	Do we only have to to do uh phase one , the functional design uh ?	project specs and roles of participants
-A	1030.99	Yeah .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	1031.51	Because then we have a Yeah .	project specs and roles of participants
-B	1033.14	After that we are going to the conceptual uh Okay .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	1035.53	Yeah .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	1036.19	We're just working the three phases .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	1036.33	Y you do some individual work , we have meeting , individual work , meeting .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	1040.14	And at the end of the day we have a final meeting .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	1042.49	And then I have to prepare uh I have to defend our design , so make it good .	project specs and roles of participants
-C	1048.15	Yeah okay .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	1048.18	Okay .	project specs and roles of participants
-C	1049.09	We'll do our best .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	1049.81	I depend on you .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	1049.81	Better make it Yeah .	project specs and roles of participants
-C	1050.93	I am gonna work on the conceptual design already 'cause yeah it's fairly important to know what kind of components we want to put in .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	1054.79	Yeah ?	project specs and roles of participants
-A	1055.34	If you can mix it it's okay .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	1058.62	Mm-hmm .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	1059.55	Yeah .	project specs and roles of participants
-C	1059.86	Do we I mean , is it gonna be a multimedia control centre ?	project specs and roles of participants
-C	1063.89	Do we want to be able to use the video recorder with it ?	project specs and roles of participants
-A	1067.36	Yeah .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	1067.59	That is my question also because like new new functions Requirements .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	1070.61	Well I think that is the user requirements part .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	1075.41	Yeah .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	1076.36	As to what they want .	project specs and roles of participants
-C	1076.78	Yeah .	project specs and roles of participants
-C	1077.14	True .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	1077.41	Uh do they want all those functions on that small Yeah .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	1079.09	Yeah .	project specs and roles of participants
-C	1080.29	But but we need good communication about this stuff , 'cause I have to f put the components into the design .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	1080.8	Unit .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	1085.41	Yeah .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	1086.06	Mm-hmm .	project specs and roles of participants
-B	1086.42	I would first m Yeah .	project specs and roles of participants
-C	1086.66	So if I don't know what components to put in , it's kind of hard .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	1088.0	Yeah well I I was Yeah well like l li like some like some some remotes who are out there , which I know , there's one button which is very easy to switch between devices .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	1089.29	Yeah I understand .	project specs and roles of participants
-B	1089.78	I I think we have first to start with the basic functions and we can uh expand them .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	1094.2	You can always add a few Yeah .	project specs and roles of participants
-B	1095.54	Yeah .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	1104.54	So you can switch to your video and then the same buttons control your video .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	1106.72	Hmm , the C_D_ player .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	1109.35	Yeah .	project specs and roles of participants
-B	1109.51	Yeah .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	1109.79	And another function I'll think of switch to your media centre , because that's getting very popular .	project specs and roles of participants
-C	1114.99	Yeah so Okay .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	1115.13	And then use your Windows media centre under your T_V_ with the same remote control .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	1120.26	Yeah .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	1120.72	So with the switch , one single switch S Yeah records and stuff like that .	project specs and roles of participants
-C	1122.84	Yeah I I know what you mean , but you'll ne need several other buttons for a video player .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	1122.96	Okay .	project specs and roles of participants
-C	1128.54	You need a play and a forw fast forward and a stop function .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	1128.99	Mm-hmm .	project specs and roles of participants
-C	1131.61	And you you don't need that for a T_V_ .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	1132.1	Okay .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	1134.42	No .	project specs and roles of participants
-C	1134.74	And and for a t uh teletext you need additional buttons as well , so I kind of need to know what we uh need .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	1138.93	You need additional yeah .	project specs and roles of participants
-B	1139.84	Yeah .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	1141.46	Yeah .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	1141.7	Yeah .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	1142.84	Uh Yeah .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	1145.73	Yeah .	project specs and roles of participants
-C	1146.98	Whatever , I'll just put my ideas in uh in here and then we can discuss it with the next uh meeting .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	1151.74	In the project uh Yeah .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	1154.4	Yeah .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	1155.33	We could just start with the assumption that's only for T_V_ and video .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	1159.78	And um reserve the possibility to add other features .	project specs and roles of participants
-C	1163.35	Okay .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	1164.76	So we have a basic starting point and you can always extend that so make sure it's extendible .	project specs and roles of participants
-C	1164.81	Okay .	project specs and roles of participants
-B	1169.75	Yeah it it has yeah it has to be user-friendly .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	1169.81	Yeah .	project specs and roles of participants
-C	1169.97	Alright .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	1170.08	Yeah .	project specs and roles of participants
-B	1172.86	So it's hasn't it's yeah .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	1175.21	Th the least amount of functions possible so it's easier to get to know how it works etcetera .	project specs and roles of participants
-B	1176.74	Yeah .	project specs and roles of participants
-B	1178.08	Okay .	project specs and roles of participants
-C	1179.39	Yeah .	project specs and roles of participants
-B	1179.83	Yeah .	project specs and roles of participants
-C	1179.87	I understand .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	1180.31	Yeah .	project specs and roles of participants
-C	1181.14	Yeah .	project specs and roles of participants
-A	1181.72	Yeah ?	project specs and roles of participants
-A	1182.58	Okay and uh I'll see you again uh when the computer tells us to .	project specs and roles of participants
-C	1182.67	Alright .	project specs and roles of participants
-D	1182.75	Yes .	project specs and roles of participants
-C	1186.56	Yeah .	project specs and roles of participants
-B	1188.57	Can we leave now or Mm .	closing
-D	1188.83	Half an hour .	closing
-A	1189.66	Yeah , you're di dismissed .	closing
-C	1192.21	Thanks .	closing
-D	1192.65	You're fired .	closing
-A	1194.26	Not yet .	closing
-D	1195.0	No .	closing
-C	1196.22	Alright .	closing
-A	1196.72	Okay .	closing
-D	1196.87	Alright let's move on .	closing
-A	1200.58	Let's see what we got to do .	closing
-D	1202.35	Yeah .	closing
-C	1206.88	See you later .	closing
-D	1208.0	Yeah see you later .	closing
-B	1208.13	Okay .	closing
-A	1208.25	Yeah .	closing
-B	1212.44	Good luck .	closing
-A	1213.1	Yeah .	closing
-A	1213.65	Thank you .	closing
-D	1220.59	Well good luck .	closing

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-C	49.0	Hey what's wrong with my computer ?	agenda/equipment issues
-B	50.52	Okay .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	54.47	Mm .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	54.94	No .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	62.77	Yeah that's my presentation .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	64.86	Woah .	agenda/equipment issues
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-C	65.77	Huh ?	agenda/equipment issues
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-D	67.96	Mm ?	agenda/equipment issues
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-A	74.8	'Kay .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	75.12	Everybody ready ?	agenda/equipment issues
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-D	93.66	Huh .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	99.05	Mm I'm not sure I .	agenda/equipment issues
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-B	103.24	No .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	103.62	'Kay .	agenda/equipment issues
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-A	104.42	Can we get started or is there some pressing issue ?	agenda/equipment issues
-C	106.88	Yeah my computer is not functioning properly .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	109.07	Oh no pressing .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	112.8	Did you plug in the power cable when you come back ?	agenda/equipment issues
-C	114.81	Yeah yeah .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	115.28	No but my screen is reduced in size .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	119.2	Yeah .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	119.21	What ?	agenda/equipment issues
-A	120.28	That's difficult .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	121.48	Yeah .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	123.05	Yeah .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	126.61	Feedback .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	128.18	Hmm .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	129.49	Okay .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	131.43	Okay .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	135.16	alt delete .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	136.56	Yeah .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	138.4	Format .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	139.59	Format save .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	146.08	So it doesn't draw the attention away .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	147.73	This is dreadful .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	147.95	Yeah .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	150.39	I made uh uh my own map .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	153.11	No not this , but the task .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	153.43	Oh yeah sure .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	154.06	It's a Yeah .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	154.88	You have Playstation also ?	agenda/equipment issues
-C	156.37	Yeah .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	158.41	No that's okay .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	161.05	No I just flapped it , closed it , took it here and then this happened .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	173.51	Ah .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	176.61	Uh where was it ?	agenda/equipment issues
-C	178.09	In settings ?	agenda/equipment issues
-C	182.12	Okay .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	183.31	Alright .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	184.74	Thank you .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	188.37	Huh .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	189.8	Do you guys like your tasks ?	discussion
-B	192.03	Yeah .	discussion
-D	192.56	Yeah .	discussion
-C	193.49	I spent a lot of time thinking about what I was gonna do and then a couple of minutes before this I get my function you know the information that I need .	discussion
-B	196.66	Yeah wa wa you actually Yeah .	discussion
-D	203.06	Yeah .	discussion
-C	203.3	So frustrating .	discussion
-B	203.59	But it it's not clear what you have to to to type uh type in your presentation .	discussion
-C	205.3	So Yeah Yeah exactly .	discussion
-D	205.96	Yeah .	discussion
-D	206.55	I I had a whole idea and then just was typing it and then oh .	discussion
-D	210.36	I have to do that so switch .	discussion
-C	212.57	This presentation is mainly based on my own ideas 'cause I hadn't time to intergrate tha the information yet so Really annoying .	discussion
-D	218.67	Mm .	discussion
-B	219.05	Yeah .	discussion
-A	222.03	Okay .	opening
-A	222.67	So there we are again .	opening
-D	223.84	By your humble P_M_ .	opening
-A	225.67	Yeah .	opening
-A	227.04	Okay this is the agenda .	opening
-A	228.98	Um we have three presentations , I heard .	opening
-B	234.25	Really .	opening
-A	234.81	Yeah really .	opening
-A	235.84	So who wants to start ?	opening
-D	239.01	Yeah that's fine .	opening
-C	240.98	Yeah .	opening
-D	241.54	We have to start it right away ?	opening
-A	243.42	Yeah .	opening
-D	244.58	Functional ?	opening
-A	244.63	Uh this is you ?	opening
-D	245.71	Yeah functional requirements .	opening
-A	248.5	'Kay .	opening
-D	248.79	Alright .	opening
-D	250.53	I'm gonna talk about functional requirements .	marketing expert presentation
-D	253.48	Um Well uh some research has be done uh has been done .	marketing expert presentation
-D	259.53	Uh observing of one hundred uh subjects in the usability lab using a remote control .	marketing expert presentation
-D	265.21	Uh and they also filled in a questionnaire .	marketing expert presentation
-D	268.93	The findings were um , well you can see them for yourself .	marketing expert presentation
-D	272.45	They disliked the look-and-feel of current remotes controls .	marketing expert presentation
-D	275.44	Users think they're ugly .	marketing expert presentation
-D	277.31	Um they do not match the the operating behaviour of the users .	marketing expert presentation
-D	282.15	So they they d they don't match what they want to have on it .	marketing expert presentation
-D	286.26	Um they are often lost somewhere in the room .	marketing expert presentation
-D	289.98	Um it takes too much time to learn how to use a new remote control .	marketing expert presentation
-D	294.43	And they're bad for R_S_I_ .	marketing expert presentation
-D	298.18	I don't know uh how a user can reach that but okay .	marketing expert presentation
-D	301.78	Um there is also uh was also some research on uh the most relevant and and and irrelevant uh f functions .	marketing expert presentation
-C	302.98	Ts So they do need to be in the Alright .	marketing expert presentation
-D	311.87	Uh most irrelevant and less used were audio settings , mono , stereo , uh pitch , bass .	marketing expert presentation
-D	317.84	Um screen settings for brightness and colour and stuff like that .	marketing expert presentation
-D	321.77	Um but they are used .	marketing expert presentation
-D	323.68	I mean the Yeah they do need to be on the on the remote control .	marketing expert presentation
-A	327.13	Yeah .	marketing expert presentation
-D	329.68	I mean if you can't control the the sound settings I mean if you dislike a very uh loud bass or something , you you need to change that .	marketing expert presentation
-D	337.34	So um yeah we have to .	marketing expert presentation
-A	338.45	often .	marketing expert presentation
-C	339.24	By the way my T_V_ doesn't have an equ equaliser but okay .	marketing expert presentation
-D	340.06	We c we c Yeah I mean w we can't my my T_V_ has , but we we can leave them uh away .	marketing expert presentation
-A	343.84	Next generation does .	marketing expert presentation
-C	345.16	No .	marketing expert presentation
-C	345.87	Alright .	marketing expert presentation
-D	349.1	Uh most relevant , uh most used functions , uh they speak for themselves I guess .	marketing expert presentation
-D	353.45	Uh power button , uh channel , volume selection .	marketing expert presentation
-D	357.39	Uh teletext but we can skip that because I saw the newsflash , and teletext is so outdated that it it's i should not be used uh any more in the future .	marketing expert presentation
-A	364.84	N not used anymore .	marketing expert presentation
-D	367.24	So forget this one .	marketing expert presentation
-B	369.07	Okay .	marketing expert presentation
-D	369.4	Uh channel settings , so for programming uh your channels in in the right order .	marketing expert presentation
-C	373.21	By the way where did you guys get that newsflash from ?	new requirements
-A	373.26	Yeah .	new requirements
-B	375.35	Yeah .	new requirements
-C	376.44	I didn't get anything .	new requirements
-D	376.53	Yeah , on on the project uh No so it's a text file n in the project folder .	new requirements
-B	376.99	I was wondering uh But you you've got more information than uh .	new requirements
-A	377.63	Yeah .	new requirements
-A	379.63	Not by mail .	new requirements
-A	380.57	I receiv the mail but you don't .	new requirements
-A	382.21	So That's in the presentation , so Uh below I believe .	new requirements
-D	385.21	So teletext can be skipped .	new requirements
-C	389.14	Alright .	new requirements
-D	389.34	Um there was some research on new features in a remote control .	new requirements
-D	393.36	Uh about an L_C_D_ screen uh and speech recognition .	new requirements
-D	397.83	Well we got an update for the for the audience .	new requirements
-D	402.12	Or the the the targeted group .	new requirements
-D	404.16	So it's above forty I guess .	new requirements
-D	407.17	The new product ?	new requirements
-D	408.59	Or below because that's pretty relevant .	new requirements
-A	409.47	Yeah below forty .	new requirements
-A	411.99	Mm-hmm .	new requirements
-D	413.3	I thought I read a Yeah ?	new requirements
-A	414.27	Our current customers are in the age group forty plus .	new requirements
-A	418.47	And the new product should reach new markets , which is the customers below forty .	new requirements
-D	422.12	Below ?	new requirements
-D	423.32	Okay well that's that's in the newsfla okay that's a good to know .	new requirements
-B	423.97	But where did you get uh that information ?	marketing expert presentation
-A	425.1	That's in a newsflash .	marketing expert presentation
-B	427.0	Okay .	marketing expert presentation
-D	428.28	Um because you see see a clear distinction between the age groups , concerning the features .	marketing expert presentation
-B	430.24	Yeah .	marketing expert presentation
-D	433.69	I mean uh above forty people are not so interested uh not so interested in a screen or speech recognition .	marketing expert presentation
-D	442.04	Uh but below that age they uh they pretty much are .	marketing expert presentation
-D	445.69	So I think we can build that in .	marketing expert presentation
-D	448.3	Um Yeah well we can skip this part as well , because I thought I read above forty so we could skip the features , but we just have to build them in because uh they find it very interesting .	marketing expert presentation
-D	462.44	Um well we have to keep all the classic functions but make the buttons as user-friendly as possible .	marketing expert presentation
-D	469.13	Um and and also there's so not only the design of the bus uh buttons but o how you can push them , and stuff like that .	marketing expert presentation
-D	477.28	So the physical uh aspect of it .	marketing expert presentation
-D	479.98	Um And I think and certainly for for the for the lower age groups , uh nice design , which uh does not make the remote control in your room .	marketing expert presentation
-D	489.85	It's it's actually a part of your interior , of of your design in your room .	marketing expert presentation
-B	490.24	Yeah .	marketing expert presentation
-D	494.12	So it's the people can say , well what's that , well that's my remote control , so it's d it has to look nice and feel nice , and and have all the functions that uh Yeah so the the logo has to be uh present yeah , and the colours as well .	marketing expert presentation
-A	498.93	Yeah .	marketing expert presentation
-A	502.35	But it also needs to have corporate identity .	marketing expert presentation
-A	507.72	Present and the colours .	marketing expert presentation
-A	510.15	So we can't change much of that .	marketing expert presentation
-C	511.96	Do we have uh yeah .	marketing expert presentation
-D	512.35	Yeah so but I I don't think that's that's a problem because the thing has to have a colour anyway , and most of the times there is a brand present on it .	marketing expert presentation
-A	516.28	Mm-hmm .	marketing expert presentation
-A	517.83	Mm-hmm .	marketing expert presentation
-A	518.46	Yeah .	marketing expert presentation
-D	520.71	So I think that's not gonna gonna affect it very uh very much .	marketing expert presentation
-A	521.02	Yeah .	marketing expert presentation
-A	522.72	Okay .	marketing expert presentation
-D	525.51	Well that are the the consequences uh on a marketing uh part .	marketing expert presentation
-C	530.64	Alright .	marketing expert presentation
-D	530.78	Yes .	marketing expert presentation
-B	531.36	Okay .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	531.63	'Kay .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	533.25	It's open already so you can use to find yours .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	539.26	Mm .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	541.79	It's F_ five .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	544.07	F_ five .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	546.96	Okay .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	549.6	Oh .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	551.51	Go Jurgen .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	552.82	What is this ?	agenda/equipment issues
-B	554.35	Oh no .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	556.72	How do I uh No no no .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	557.35	You pressed alt F_ four ?	agenda/equipment issues
-B	559.5	I pressed the mouse button .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	561.16	Oh great .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	562.56	It's th that's the self-destruct button .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	564.62	Yeah .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	564.85	Yeah .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	565.28	Uh maybe you can do it from your computer so talk us through it .	interface specialist presentation
-B	565.46	Okay .	interface specialist presentation
-B	567.16	Okay .	interface specialist presentation
-D	567.3	Yeah .	interface specialist presentation
-B	567.69	Um if you all go stand around uh Computer Um No .	interface specialist presentation
-D	568.42	Just yeah .	interface specialist presentation
-A	570.48	Yeah .	interface specialist presentation
-D	571.8	Sure .	interface specialist presentation
-C	572.08	Alright .	interface specialist presentation
-A	574.58	That's nice .	interface specialist presentation
-A	578.93	F_ five .	interface specialist presentation
-D	579.29	Yeah .	interface specialist presentation
-A	579.63	Yeah .	interface specialist presentation
-B	579.96	Okay .	interface specialist presentation
-D	580.05	Alright .	interface specialist presentation
-B	581.25	I uh had uh two examples .	existing products
-A	583.51	Mm-hmm .	interface specialist presentation
-B	584.14	Um this one is the the yeah the advanced one with a lot of options and functions and buttons .	existing products
-A	589.22	Mm-hmm .	interface specialist presentation
-B	590.3	This the easy one I think we have to to combine them .	existing products
-D	590.42	Yeah .	interface specialist presentation
-D	593.52	Yeah .	interface specialist presentation
-A	593.74	Mm-hmm .	interface specialist presentation
-B	594.1	And uh yeah merge the best functions of all examples .	existing products
-C	594.25	Mm-hmm .	interface specialist presentation
-A	596.92	Yeah .	interface specialist presentation
-B	598.28	Um but yeah the the age is uh under forty ?	interface specialist presentation
-A	602.32	The mm yeah .	interface specialist presentation
-D	602.87	Yeah and and and marketing research stated that that that kind of users are not afraid of of a lot of functions .	interface specialist presentation
-B	603.48	So we Okay so so we have the option for more functions .	interface specialist presentation
-D	610.34	So not not too much but yeah .	interface specialist presentation
-B	612.63	Um yeah .	interface specialist presentation
-C	615.04	And we do have to integrate the screen and the the speech alright .	interface specialist presentation
-D	617.95	And the speech recognition yeah .	interface specialist presentation
-B	619.54	Yeah .	interface specialist presentation
-A	619.56	Yeah .	interface specialist presentation
-B	621.03	Uh yeah this this one we can remove for kids .	interface specialist presentation
-B	624.4	It's just only for adults so uh we can uh use some advanced options .	interface specialist presentation
-D	628.2	Yeah from age of sixteen so yeah .	interface specialist presentation
-B	628.59	But Yeah but I prefer we we uh use the the basic options uh yeah .	interface specialist presentation
-B	633.84	We have to to make them very easy so for just uh zapping around the channels you can just push one button .	interface specialist presentation
-D	635.86	Mm .	interface specialist presentation
-C	636.37	Mm-hmm .	interface specialist presentation
-A	639.59	Mm-hmm .	interface specialist presentation
-B	639.75	But if you want to to use your your video recorder or something else , you should use use an uh an advanced option .	interface specialist presentation
-D	646.29	Yeah but uh the the newsflash also stated that it should control only one device , only your television .	interface specialist presentation
-B	650.92	Okay one device .	interface specialist presentation
-A	652.24	Yeah .	interface specialist presentation
-B	652.46	Okay .	interface specialist presentation
-A	652.78	So n it's very easy .	interface specialist presentation
-D	652.95	So w So there are not extra options in this case , but uh Yeah .	interface specialist presentation
-B	653.17	I didn't see .	interface specialist presentation
-A	654.11	Now yeah it's okay .	interface specialist presentation
-B	654.11	Okay and I also uh yeah .	interface specialist presentation
-A	656.94	Okay .	interface specialist presentation
-B	658.44	W yeah .	interface specialist presentation
-B	659.01	We have to make it fashionable .	interface specialist presentation
-B	660.48	Like you uh said uh before .	interface specialist presentation
-A	660.5	Yeah .	interface specialist presentation
-B	663.2	Uh yeah the basic functions .	interface specialist presentation
-B	664.92	Um yeah only use a extra function if they are really needed .	interface specialist presentation
-A	668.7	Yeah so maybe you can hide them or something .	interface specialist presentation
-D	668.76	Yeah .	interface specialist presentation
-B	670.77	Yeah .	interface specialist presentation
-D	670.95	Yeah well what what we can do with the screen is is all the the configuration options , you can put that in the screen .	interface specialist presentation
-A	676.85	Yeah you make a screen menu or something .	interface specialist presentation
-D	676.87	And the and the yeah screen menu to to to uh to do that , and then the basic function just on the device itself .	interface specialist presentation
-C	678.86	Yeah .	interface specialist presentation
-B	680.52	Yeah .	interface specialist presentation
-D	684.52	So it looks very simple and all the advanced features are hidden in the screen , uh with a clear menu .	interface specialist presentation
-A	684.73	Mm-hmm .	interface specialist presentation
-A	687.99	Yeah and the other oth other uh functionality is the screen .	interface specialist presentation
-B	688.02	Yeah .	interface specialist presentation
-A	692.91	What does the screen do ?	interface specialist presentation
-D	695.35	Uh .	interface specialist presentation
-C	695.81	Alright .	interface specialist presentation
-B	696.07	Did I uh did I break it ?	interface specialist presentation
-D	696.39	What are wh What .	interface specialist presentation
-A	696.4	Yeah .	interface specialist presentation
-A	697.22	It's low power .	interface specialist presentation
-A	701.31	So what does the screen do ?	interface specialist presentation
-A	703.14	They said they needed it but what does it do ?	interface specialist presentation
-A	705.28	What do they want with the screen ?	interface specialist presentation
-B	706.67	For for the advanced functions I think .	interface specialist presentation
-A	708.63	Yeah that's what we make it up .	interface specialist presentation
-D	708.67	Yeah well it yeah it didn't it didn't say what they want to do with the screen .	interface specialist presentation
-A	710.08	So but what did the marketing No .	interface specialist presentation
-D	714.07	Well I , my guess is it's it's pretty handy for advanced uh advanced functions .	interface specialist presentation
-A	717.05	Yeah okay it's handy .	interface specialist presentation
-A	718.56	With no predefined uh We're back online .	interface specialist presentation
-B	718.58	Like searching for channels and Yeah .	interface specialist presentation
-D	720.37	Yeah searching for channels , programming them .	interface specialist presentation
-C	720.79	Ah look .	interface specialist presentation
-C	721.96	We have your uh oh never mind .	interface specialist presentation
-B	724.05	Okay .	interface specialist presentation
-B	724.92	That's uh I'm al I'm almost finished so Um the we have to to to watch out for the i if we make it f very fashionable , it it the functional functionality will go down .	interface specialist presentation
-A	728.63	Okay .	interface specialist presentation
-B	738.08	So we have to make uh a compromise between functionality and fashional fashionable yeah content and form .	interface specialist presentation
-A	742.05	Mm-hmm .	interface specialist presentation
-A	742.82	Content and form .	interface specialist presentation
-D	744.27	Yeah .	interface specialist presentation
-A	745.8	Yeah .	interface specialist presentation
-B	746.49	Now that that was uh was the end .	interface specialist presentation
-A	747.18	That was the end .	interface specialist presentation
-D	748.1	Yeah .	interface specialist presentation
-C	748.47	Okay .	industrial designer presentation
-B	748.65	Yes .	interface specialist presentation
-A	748.75	Okay .	interface specialist presentation
-C	749.93	Well my presentation is a bit uh sucky .	industrial designer presentation
-D	755.18	Well you can improvise right ?	industrial designer presentation
-A	755.73	Uh which one is it ?	industrial designer presentation
-A	756.64	Technical functions ?	industrial designer presentation
-C	757.2	Yeah a little bit .	industrial designer presentation
-C	758.95	Uh no .	industrial designer presentation
-A	758.98	This one ?	industrial designer presentation
-C	761.51	No no .	industrial designer presentation
-A	765.44	Functional requirements ?	industrial designer presentation
-C	766.88	Yeah I think that would be it then .	industrial designer presentation
-A	769.29	No .	industrial designer presentation
-D	769.85	So we we can go for So we can go for the look-and-feel of the the left example , and then a screen on top of it .	industrial designer presentation
-C	770.32	I have no idea .	industrial designer presentation
-A	770.55	You didn't put it in ?	industrial designer presentation
-A	771.82	Or it's not really English .	industrial designer presentation
-C	772.1	That w .	industrial designer presentation
-C	774.27	Let me check .	industrial designer presentation
-C	776.56	I know .	industrial designer presentation
-A	779.71	Uh kick off .	industrial designer presentation
-A	781.4	Oh working design I got it .	industrial designer presentation
-C	783.24	Yeah .	industrial designer presentation
-A	792.36	Here you go .	industrial designer presentation
-C	793.6	Alright how do I uh skip pages ?	industrial designer presentation
-A	795.68	Just uh press uh yeah .	industrial designer presentation
-C	797.69	The keys yeah ?	industrial designer presentation
-A	798.29	Yeah .	industrial designer presentation
-D	798.31	Yeah .	industrial designer presentation
-C	799.83	Alright .	industrial designer presentation
-C	800.47	Um yeah well I was working on this before I got my information .	industrial designer presentation
-C	805.41	So I was just working off the top of my head and using my colin common knowledge about uh remote controls .	industrial designer presentation
-A	807.57	Mm-hmm .	industrial designer presentation
-C	813.29	And well the info on the website which came too late .	industrial designer presentation
-A	815.73	Mm-hmm .	industrial designer presentation
-C	817.01	Um so I didn't really know what kind of functions we had to put into it yet .	industrial designer presentation
-C	823.51	So uh uh this is basically an overview of what we discussed in our last uh meeting .	industrial designer presentation
-A	823.54	Mm-hmm .	industrial designer presentation
-C	831.42	Those were my uh starting points .	industrial designer presentation
-A	832.8	Mm-hmm .	industrial designer presentation
-C	834.19	Uh I was working on a s yeah on a schedule , and I was supposed to do it like this .	industrial designer presentation
-C	842.61	But um yeah then uh the information came and it was kind of exact with all the steps in the remote control that I had to follow , so I was trying to organise them for myself .	industrial designer presentation
-A	851.96	Mm .	industrial designer presentation
-C	855.05	And then make the the design , a the actual design , but I never came around to do that .	industrial designer presentation
-D	857.02	Design ?	industrial designer presentation
-A	857.59	Design yeah .	industrial designer presentation
-D	858.4	Yeah .	industrial designer presentation
-C	862.19	So I'm not really sure what I'm supposed to say about it .	industrial designer presentation
-D	862.44	Okay .	industrial designer presentation
-C	866.27	I mean everything speaks for itself I guess .	industrial designer presentation
-C	868.72	Mean you press a button um the it tru goes , it sends a signal to a chip , which uh translates it into infrared signal of certin spatial frequencies .	industrial designer presentation
-A	870.5	Mm-hmm .	industrial designer presentation
-D	880.91	Yeah frequency .	industrial designer presentation
-A	881.05	Mm-hmm .	industrial designer presentation
-D	881.99	Yeah .	industrial designer presentation
-C	882.36	And uh or temporal fr frequencies actually .	industrial designer presentation
-C	885.15	And then uh through a uh transformer , it the signal gets boosted and then sent to the to the receiver on the T_V_ and the T_V_ will translate it into a function .	industrial designer presentation
-A	889.57	Yeah decoder .	industrial designer presentation
-C	901.35	Um Yeah well this was actually all I got around to do .	industrial designer presentation
-A	907.38	Blank .	industrial designer presentation
-A	908.09	Yeah okay .	industrial designer presentation
-C	908.31	I mean I dunno if I'm too slow for this stuff , but uh Yeah .	new requirements industrial designer presentation
-B	908.6	Yeah .	industrial designer presentation
-D	908.67	Yeah .	industrial designer presentation
-A	911.69	Work harder .	industrial designer presentation
-B	912.4	Okay shou should we make a list of the of all the functions we want uh Yeah .	new requirements
-C	913.86	Whatever .	new requirements
-A	915.85	Yeah .	new requirements
-A	917.18	Uh 'Kay .	new requirements
-D	917.18	Yeah we want to incorporate in uh into it .	new requirements
-A	922.02	Um for those that didn't see yet um the basic new requirements of the management were no teletext , only for T_V_ .	new requirements
-A	933.2	Uh it should be designed for a use g uh group below forty , but I don't think it's w wrong if we can uh target the current customer group as well .	new requirements
-D	943.34	Mm .	new requirements
-A	944.48	And uh the corporate identity should be clear in the design of the remote control .	new requirements
-A	951.86	And we have to decide on the functions , and on the , let's see what was it , uh the target group .	new requirements
-A	961.13	We have to make be clear what that is .	new requirements
-D	964.66	group of users , or because it says below forty I mean .	user target group
-A	965.62	Yeah users .	user target group
-A	969.01	Yeah so I think it's easy but Yeah it's below forty so we can decide where to Okay .	user target group
-D	969.92	I guess that's that's the tar yeah uh or male and female Uh six the marketing research started on s on the age of sixteen .	user target group
-B	971.81	But uh it's it's also for children or just uh Okay .	user target group
-D	979.9	Sixteen to twenty five , twenty five to thirty five , thirty five to forty five , something like that .	user target group
-B	980.24	Okay .	user target group
-D	985.63	So um How do you mean ?	user target group
-A	985.85	So below forty is okay .	user target group
-A	988.43	But we need an lower level which to s uh focus .	user target group
-A	994.16	So is it from sixteen to forty ?	user target group
-A	996.59	Is it from twenty to forty ?	user target group
-A	998.55	Is it from thirty ?	user target group
-D	998.63	Uh sixteen to forty .	user target group
-B	999.84	Yeah .	user target group
-A	1000.21	Yeah ?	user target group
-D	1000.62	Well I I guess people of sixteen are are quite used to technology .	user target group
-B	1000.88	We we have to And if we have a larger public we have uh yeah more options to to uh sell our product .	user target group
-A	1001.12	'Kay .	user target group
-A	1005.51	Yeah .	user target group
-D	1006.12	So they they adapt to it pretty soon I guess .	user target group
-D	1011.5	Yeah .	user target group
-C	1013.68	Yeah so what we might wanna do is uh yeah cust I have customised the screen functions , if you know what I mean .	discussion
-C	1021.02	The uh younger users are more acquainted with these kind of machines so they can use more advanced functions .	discussion
-A	1021.2	Mm-hmm .	discussion
-C	1030.08	But maybe elderly people don't understand it so well , so they need a simpler remote .	discussion
-A	1035.25	Design .	discussion
-C	1035.79	And yeah that you can choose what the design displays , or wha whatever .	discussion
-A	1036.59	Mm .	discussion
-B	1039.73	Yeah that's that's why uh I wanted to to make yeah two uh different uh yeah groups of functions .	discussion
-B	1046.27	The the simple functions for for the the whole public , and the the advanced options for the younger people yeah who are more yeah experienced with uh Na I w I should uh put uh the the yeah the extra advanced options on the onto the onscreen display .	discussion
-C	1049.51	Yeah .	discussion
-A	1053.1	Mm-hmm .	discussion
-C	1054.47	Experienced yeah .	discussion
-A	1054.95	And maybe y Yeah .	discussion
-D	1055.07	But uh all incorporated in the screen or or just on the remote itself ?	discussion
-D	1065.94	Yeah like like you have a visual of the of the brightness with with a kind of sliding bar and a bus and and stuff like that for sound and and vis and and visuals ?	discussion
-B	1069.64	Yeah .	discussion
-A	1070.04	Yeah .	discussion
-A	1071.03	Yeah .	discussion
-A	1074.67	So is you should have a menu for all the the functions you don't use regular and which are Yeah .	discussion
-D	1077.62	Uh you can make a if you make a drawing .	discussion
-B	1079.83	Yeah .	discussion
-A	1083.03	Aye yeah .	discussion
-D	1083.95	Uh Uh .	discussion
-A	1086.87	Shall I uh Yeah .	discussion
-D	1089.57	Uh black's okay .	discussion
-D	1095.58	And draw it very big .	discussion
-D	1097.67	Oh .	discussion
-A	1098.39	It's okay .	discussion
-D	1099.18	Yeah .	discussion
-A	1100.4	no , it doesn't have line control , so Yeah we get the The remote , yeah ?	look and usability discussion
-D	1103.05	Yeah .	discussion
-D	1107.36	Yeah well , this is basically uh it's alright the remote ?	look and usability
-C	1110.26	The remote ?	look and usability
-D	1112.91	Um well usually the power button is on top I guess .	look and usability
-A	1114.08	Basic .	look and usability
-A	1116.87	Is on top .	look and usability
-A	1118.6	Which should be easy , easily reached with the thumb .	look and usability
-D	1121.62	Yeah so it should fit right in into your hand .	look and usability
-B	1122.76	Yeah .	look and usability
-B	1123.79	L left top or right uh top ?	look and usability
-D	1126.37	Right .	look and usability
-A	1126.38	T I s should said right .	look and usability
-C	1127.37	Right top .	look and usability
-B	1127.52	Yeah , right .	look and usability
-D	1127.74	Right .	look and usability
-D	1128.06	I most people are right-handed so maybe left-handed special addition , but okay .	look and usability
-A	1128.94	Because yeah .	look and usability
-B	1129.98	Okay .	look and usability
-C	1130.11	Yeah definitely .	look and usability
-D	1134.26	If you put it like like here .	look and usability
-D	1136.64	Or something .	look and usability
-D	1137.52	I dunno .	look and usability
-D	1139.4	Um then you could put a screen , like on a mobile phone , also on top I guess .	look and usability
-A	1145.58	Mm-hmm .	look and usability
-B	1145.64	Yeah but if you are using the the normal functions , the the basic functions , you normally press them on the u yeah .	look and usability
-A	1150.95	Do the also with the thumb .	look and usability
-A	1153.27	So it should be a little bit longer so that you can put your uh thumb , also reach the middle .	look and usability
-A	1160.3	Or you should screen at the bottom and then you can see it very clearly .	look and usability
-D	1163.8	Okay so y yeah you have you have it in your hand , and the screen is below , and the buttons are in the middle .	look and usability
-A	1165.76	You you need to be able to hold it so Yeah .	look and usability
-B	1168.33	Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1170.04	Okay for example if you put the screen here , it's more about the functions now than the than the layout .	look and usability
-A	1174.64	Yeah okay that's true .	look and usability
-A	1175.83	Layout .	look and usability
-A	1176.6	That's for the I can't help it .	look and usability agenda/equipment issues
-D	1176.78	Doesn't work too well .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	1177.84	It's uh it's bent .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	1182.16	You broke it .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	1183.26	Yeah .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	1186.16	Yeah .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	1188.78	Man .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	1189.94	Right .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	1191.37	Yeah okay .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	1192.13	Okay you get it .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	1193.57	Uh for example if y if you put all the Right .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	1204.46	You want the normal piece of paper ?	agenda/equipment issues
-A	1206.26	And you have a pen ?	agenda/equipment issues
-D	1207.64	Yeah .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	1208.87	And might be easier huh ?	agenda/equipment issues
-D	1209.22	Maybe this .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	1212.11	kind of works .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	1213.37	Yeah ?	discussion
-D	1214.63	Like if you have like uh ten buttons for for all the for all the channels , um and here one for for Yeah that that usually uh like here , here , here , here .	look and usability
-A	1219.97	Mm-hmm .	look and usability
-A	1221.83	Uh .	look and usability
-A	1223.26	And the for flipping up and down .	look and usability
-B	1224.56	Yeah yeah .	look and usability
-B	1226.02	And volume control .	look and usability
-C	1229.65	Yeah I Yeah exactly .	look and usability
-B	1233.54	Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1233.88	So you have up and down for the for the channels , and left and right for the volume uh Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1234.03	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1237.66	And left to right .	look and usability
-A	1239.53	And those can also be used for the menu .	look and usability
-C	1242.95	I thought but this is really your department , that we need just the functional display and four cursors .	look and usability
-A	1245.31	Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1247.66	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1248.48	Yeah okay but this is function so if you can use them for multiple things For the menu .	look and usability
-D	1249.74	And you you have most of the time you have one button in the middle .	look and usability
-C	1250.55	And Yeah okay .	look and usability
-D	1254.1	It says menu , and then if you press it you the screen gets activated and then you can use these buttons to scroll up and down and left and right to go into functon and then just mo most of the time this menu button is also like okay , to to confirm a a kind of action .	look and usability
-A	1255.17	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1260.9	Mm-hmm .	look and usability
-C	1261.06	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1265.18	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1270.9	Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1271.58	So you scroll into it , okay .	look and usability
-D	1274.84	You select a function like v like uh bass .	look and usability
-D	1277.94	You just adjust it with these two buttons .	look and usability
-A	1279.92	Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1280.82	Then okay to confirm , and then uh on on each on each screen there's there should be an option to go back to a to a upper level .	look and usability
-D	1290.35	And then finally say okay , exit .	look and usability
-C	1290.48	Mm-hmm .	look and usability
-D	1292.12	Or or one button to exit it .	look and usability
-B	1294.14	Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1294.52	Uh in one time I dunno , that's not really my department .	look and usability
-D	1298.6	That's more your uh your department to to uh to Yeah .	look and usability
-B	1300.96	And do we need a a logo on our uh remote control , or On the left uh top yeah .	look and usability
-A	1304.31	Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1304.95	But it should be if the screen is here then the logo should be like on on top , yeah .	look and usability
-D	1310.89	I mean it's uh Yeah .	look and usability
-B	1311.65	Okay .	look and usability
-A	1312.08	Yeah but that depends on where you put the screen .	look and usability
-A	1314.08	But it's essential that there is a screen .	look and usability
-D	1316.46	Yeah I mean the position of the screen is also more essential than I mean we we look where we have space left and then put the logo over there .	look and usability
-A	1323.77	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1324.96	And for the speech uh recognition part , if we want to incorporate that , we need a microphone .	look and usability
-D	1325.03	But um Yeah so it should be I mean if you have it in your hand here , should be on top somewhere , maybe .	look and usability
-A	1335.89	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1336.53	This would be uh No that's not s sure so uh we need a display .	look and usability
-C	1337.22	Why did we wanna put the display in the bottom ?	look and usability
-D	1337.38	I mean i That's not sure but it's Yeah I mean a screen on top looks more lo logical to me .	look and usability
-C	1341.65	Okay .	look and usability
-B	1342.77	Yeah may maybe because you're Yeah okay but only for the basic functi if you're going to use the advanced option , you're going to press the the menu button and then yeah .	look and usability
-C	1343.78	Because yeah if you use the functions your hand will block the display .	look and usability
-C	1359.6	Normal for logical t Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1361.05	Also because people use m mobile phones and they also have the screen on top .	look and usability
-B	1361.07	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1361.12	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1363.38	Yeah they're used to it .	look and usability
-B	1365.0	Okay the yeah .	look and usability
-D	1366.22	So you you just have to reach a little bit for the power button .	look and usability
-B	1366.29	That's possible .	look and usability
-D	1371.25	I mean if you grab it .	look and usability
-C	1372.03	On once it's on it's on .	look and usability
-D	1373.18	But most most of the times if a if if a T_V_'s on standby people just press a channel to put it on .	look and usability
-C	1373.48	You don't need the power button .	look and usability
-B	1374.01	Yeah , okay .	look and usability
-B	1377.91	Okay we put it on top .	look and usability
-D	1379.59	So we put this on top , and then make the corporate logo like over here .	look and usability
-B	1381.11	Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1386.47	R_R_ .	look and usability
-D	1387.29	And j and the microphone , I mean it can be very small .	look and usability
-D	1390.16	If you look at your mobile phones are some stripes , little little holes .	look and usability
-C	1392.01	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1395.47	Mm-hmm .	look and usability
-C	1395.96	Maybe on the top or even on the side .	look and usability
-D	1397.9	Yeah maybe on the side .	look and usability
-D	1399.23	I mean if the if the microphone is good .	look and usability
-A	1400.04	Yeah but then it's possible that you cover it with your hand so I think that top is the best option .	look and usability
-C	1402.96	True .	look and usability
-D	1403.42	Yeah okay .	look and usability
-B	1403.45	Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1404.12	So on the on the top is better .	look and usability
-C	1405.9	But if you uh if you hold the ma the remote like this , if you put it on the top on the side I dunno .	look and usability
-A	1412.25	Yeah okay .	look and usability
-C	1412.61	Should be able to work .	look and usability
-D	1413.27	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1414.23	Depends on the sensitivity of the microphone , but I think that's okay .	look and usability
-C	1414.29	Never mind .	look and usability
-C	1416.08	Can we leave this up to you ?	look and usability
-D	1417.8	Yeah it doesn't matter that much .	look and usability
-D	1419.98	So but um the screen is on top ?	look and usability
-D	1422.62	Which functions did we have left ?	discussion
-D	1426.4	I mean this is basically numbers , volume , uh channel up and down .	discussion
-A	1428.93	Volume .	discussion
-A	1430.47	Up .	discussion
-A	1431.45	Channel up and down , and the control of the advanced options .	discussion
-D	1432.31	Screen is over there .	discussion
-B	1435.71	Yeah .	discussion
-D	1435.96	Yeah .	discussion
-A	1436.15	So maybe it , we should decide what advanced options we want to put in the L_C_D_ screen .	discussion
-B	1436.27	If we Yeah it it's just a remote control so Yeah .	discussion
-D	1440.67	Yeah .	discussion
-D	1441.3	That's uh that's a good one .	discussion
-C	1442.95	Yeah so we we needed to integrate the sound and uh and image options right ?	discussion
-D	1449.47	Yeah .	discussion
-A	1449.84	Yeah so sounds ?	discussion
-C	1449.9	Like uh bass uh so we need kind of an equaliser .	discussion
-D	1452.34	Sound ?	discussion
-C	1454.83	If you Yeah treble , middl middle , bass or something .	discussion
-D	1454.93	Yeah .	discussion
-D	1455.48	Equaliser .	discussion
-D	1456.96	So if you have sound But not too advanced .	discussion
-D	1461.73	I mean most T_V_s use only treble and bass .	discussion
-A	1464.1	Yeah and they're They're not used often so Yeah just Yeah sounds .	discussion
-D	1467.77	Yeah .	discussion
-D	1469.04	It's uh pretty hard to write .	discussion
-C	1471.23	Ah as .	discussion
-D	1472.23	Mm .	discussion
-D	1472.96	Okay but you have sound ?	discussion
-D	1475.8	Yeah just oh y you have digital uh better write it down over there yeah .	discussion
-A	1476.67	Yeah .	discussion
-A	1480.09	Of course .	discussion
-D	1480.49	So you have sound .	discussion
-A	1480.92	I'm just a secretary .	discussion
-D	1482.9	Yeah .	discussion
-A	1484.64	Coffee ?	discussion
-D	1484.7	Uh yeah sound and then within sound I guess treble and bass ?	discussion
-C	1485.71	Yes please .	discussion
-A	1491.01	Treble bass .	discussion
-C	1491.82	the mono stereo option ?	discussion
-D	1494.91	Yeah .	discussion
-A	1495.63	Uh Pitch I believe , yeah .	discussion
-C	1495.69	And there there was something else also .	discussion
-D	1496.11	Also .	discussion
-C	1498.14	And then pitch .	discussion
-D	1500.25	Pitch .	discussion
-D	1501.09	Yeah .	discussion
-D	1501.53	But pitch , isn't that yeah that's the the height of the tone .	discussion
-A	1504.34	Yeah .	discussion
-C	1504.37	The fr yeah the frequency of the tones , yeah .	discussion
-D	1506.47	Yeah okay , wh why would you use that ?	discussion
-A	1507.07	Yeah and mono stereo .	discussion
-C	1509.31	Yeah isn't that that depends on the on the signal of the of what program you're watching .	discussion
-D	1509.5	If people like talk like uh Yeah .	discussion
-A	1515.09	Mm .	discussion
-A	1516.03	And also the tuning part ?	discussion
-D	1518.98	Programming part .	discussion
-A	1520.02	Yeah programming .	discussion
-D	1521.13	Uh so we have sound , yeah ?	discussion
-A	1521.54	So channel programming ?	discussion
-D	1523.66	Channel programming .	discussion
-C	1525.59	And yeah in the functionality of the no no of the remote uh do do we want uh the buttons to make sound when you press them ?	discussion
-B	1529.31	Television uh itself uh Mm .	discussion
-C	1536.96	As a confirmation or whatever you know ?	discussion
-D	1538.86	Mm .	discussion
-C	1539.65	I dunno .	discussion
-A	1539.92	Mm .	discussion
-D	1539.97	I think it g it gets annoying .	discussion
-D	1541.61	I mean most mobile phones used that in the beginning but Yeah .	discussion
-A	1541.93	Yeah .	discussion
-B	1542.45	We we could make an option for it , but uh you can disable s Yeah .	discussion
-C	1545.68	Under the a yeah advanced option menu you can put those things .	discussion
-B	1550.02	But uh the the television itself has also the the options brightness and uh screen colour etcetera .	discussion
-B	1557.08	So yeah .	discussion
-A	1557.4	Contrast yeah .	discussion
-D	1558.64	Yeah but people don't want to sit on their knees on their knees in front of their television with only three buttons then it's very hard to y yeah contrast and brightness ?	discussion
-A	1563.34	Mm .	discussion
-A	1564.07	No .	discussion
-A	1565.32	Uh , so contrast , bright , uh And the others were in your presentation right ?	discussion
-C	1567.62	Yeah .	discussion
-D	1571.67	Yeah those are the most used I guess .	discussion
-D	1574.05	If you look at your monitor .	discussion
-A	1576.42	So I can just copy those ?	discussion
-D	1576.68	Well yeah well I guess that these were the only ones , I guess .	discussion
-A	1580.27	Okay .	discussion
-A	1581.19	It's easy .	discussion
-D	1582.28	Yeah .	discussion
-C	1582.7	But so we have we have T_V_ options , which is all this .	discussion
-D	1583.1	I will look it up .	discussion
-A	1586.07	Yeah the button options and the L_C_D_ options .	discussion
-C	1586.37	The sound , sound and image .	discussion
-C	1589.27	And you have in that uh the indeed the remote control options .	discussion
-A	1592.15	Indeed .	discussion
-A	1594.86	Yeah .	discussion
-C	1595.33	So we need two menus kind of thing .	discussion
-A	1597.45	Yeah you have basically a button menu , which you can use directly , uh according to the old principle .	discussion
-C	1602.16	Uh-huh .	discussion
-A	1604.42	And the L_C_D_ options are activated by some some software options , thats communicates with the infrared uh decoder yeah .	discussion
-D	1612.47	Yeah with the chip and then I mean Uh yeah .	discussion
-A	1616.56	So you You have an additional processor and and software part .	discussion
-D	1620.51	Well yeah we have power button , whether that's present .	discussion
-C	1622.49	Alright .	discussion
-A	1622.58	Compared to o Mm-hmm .	discussion
-D	1624.8	Channel volume selection present .	discussion
-D	1627.0	Uh numbers present .	discussion
-D	1628.42	Yeah a audio settings , mono , stereo , pitch , bass , treble .	discussion
-A	1629.11	L_ s Yeah .	discussion
-D	1632.35	Screen settings , brightness and colour .	discussion
-A	1635.17	Colour .	discussion
-A	1636.43	Yeah I I call it contrast .	discussion
-D	1636.82	Yeah con contrast is Yeah okay , colour and brightness .	discussion
-A	1638.51	Yeah I make it c colour .	discussion
-A	1642.53	Yeah .	discussion
-D	1643.01	Um and what you say , channel settings or channel programming ?	discussion
-D	1647.25	So you you have an option to to start scanning all the frequencies , and when it encounters one , well it shows on your T_V_ .	discussion
-A	1651.72	Yeah and automatically um Mm-hmm .	discussion
-D	1656.79	And then you can um Uh and then you can select uh a number in your remote on which you want to save it .	discussion
-A	1663.48	Yeah so I've g channel program is autoseek ?	discussion
-D	1667.17	Yeah , autoseek .	discussion
-A	1669.2	Uh name a channel , or Oh they get automatic names , okay .	discussion
-D	1673.45	Well most T_V_s automatically display the name , which they get through the cable .	discussion
-D	1679.91	Yeah .	discussion
-D	1680.52	So you only have to choose the position on your It only has to match the the channel frequency on your T_V_ , with with the with the position on your T_V_ and and so your remote .	discussion
-A	1688.18	Yeah .	discussion
-A	1693.0	Yeah but can you also say I want f uh Veronica on the channel number uh five or Yeah .	discussion
-C	1693.43	Help .	discussion
-D	1698.67	If you already programmed it .	discussion
-D	1700.65	If you want to move it .	discussion
-A	1701.74	Yeah .	discussion
-D	1702.05	Yeah that should be possible too .	discussion
-A	1703.44	How do you call that ?	discussion
-D	1704.93	Yeah how do you call that ?	discussion
-D	1706.36	Mm ?	discussion
-D	1708.55	Wait you you should be able to to browse through a list or something , which w displays all the all the values , all the channels which are possible .	discussion
-A	1715.93	Channels ?	discussion
-A	1716.98	Yeah .	discussion
-D	1718.35	I mean like one to f thirty of or ninety or whatever .	discussion
-A	1720.14	Ninety nine or something .	discussion
-A	1721.43	Yeah .	discussion
-D	1722.76	Just browse through it and then um in some kind of way see if it if it if it is programmed .	discussion
-A	1728.59	S swap channels ?	discussion
-A	1731.4	Can I call it that ?	discussion
-D	1731.4	Yeah .	discussion
-D	1732.7	Swap channels .	discussion
-A	1733.51	Swap's good option .	discussion
-A	1735.23	Okay .	discussion
-A	1735.78	Uh other functions ?	discussion
-D	1736.07	So you most of the time if you if you swap it S uh let's say for example you have uh R_T_L_ five on on channel five .	discussion
-D	1747.54	And Veronica on channel eight and you want to move Veronica to channel five , um most of the times you override the previous uh the previous one .	discussion
-A	1756.02	Mm-hmm .	discussion
-A	1756.58	Okay .	discussion
-A	1758.12	Well that's 's up to uh Mister User Interface Designer .	discussion
-D	1760.42	Yeah .	discussion
-D	1761.62	It's it's pretty uh yeah I mean you have to look on on the menu on the T_V_ .	discussion
-B	1762.44	Okay .	discussion
-C	1767.39	working design .	discussion
-C	1768.74	Doch .	discussion
-A	1768.94	Also .	discussion
-A	1770.32	That's you're Yeah but also , which buttons you have to press to get a certain result ?	discussion
-C	1770.69	He only has to figure out how it has to look .	discussion
-C	1773.42	And how to use Yeah okay .	discussion
-B	1774.0	Yeah .	discussion
-A	1779.97	And the working design was to specify how ph the physical interation between the components was , as I believe .	discussion
-C	1780.53	But You did your homework .	discussion
-D	1790.07	Yeah .	discussion
-C	1791.71	But um yeah .	discussion
-D	1793.96	Or or is it too hard to to ju to just do it all on your remote ?	discussion
-C	1794.44	Okay .	discussion
-D	1798.66	To programme the channels ?	discussion
-C	1800.29	No no .	discussion
-A	1800.75	No I don't think so .	discussion
-B	1801.2	No that's Okay On the uh yeah can you i make a a map with with all the yeah 'cause it's now there are lots and lots of documents and The the layout of the remote control ?	discussion
-C	1801.21	It should be able to do any remote .	discussion
-D	1801.44	Uh .	discussion
-A	1802.06	But I think the communication with the television is difficult .	discussion
-A	1805.7	But that's not our part .	discussion
-D	1806.15	Yeah .	discussion
-D	1807.9	No .	discussion
-A	1808.28	We don't have to design a protocol so No that's the Yeah .	discussion
-C	1810.43	No .	discussion
-D	1810.99	That's true .	discussion
-D	1811.5	That's true .	discussion
-C	1812.8	Thank god .	discussion
-D	1813.43	Yeah .	discussion
-D	1814.29	So we have a figure a figure out a way to to do that easily .	discussion
-D	1817.29	I mean th the autoseek is is not a problem .	discussion
-D	1819.8	I mean you uh you uh current channel and then then it just says , uh on which number do you want to save this , and you just press a number on your remote , and then say confirm , okay , and then it's it's saved .	discussion
-D	1831.32	It's easier , it's it's it's harder to , if you have already programmed it , to to swap .	discussion
-D	1836.79	So we have to think of something for that .	discussion
-A	1836.83	So but Um The User Interface Designer can design a menu for all these function I put them on the .	discussion
-D	1846.34	Yeah k kind of structure into layers .	discussion
-A	1854.72	Yeah .	discussion
-A	1855.97	Yeah I can .	discussion
-A	1857.15	I'll just try to reorganise uh things .	discussion
-D	1860.8	So And and the layout of of the thing itself .	discussion
-A	1861.25	Um So you design the basic function menu for the L_C_D_ screen ?	discussion
-A	1870.65	Uh um I think th I think the yeah the layout of the screen and I think you can concentrate more on the button placement and the placement of the uh screen itself on the .	discussion
-B	1886.47	Isn't that more the the u uh the user interface part ?	discussion
-A	1889.36	No I d I think that's more in .	discussion
-C	1892.13	Uh all the functional uh aspects of the remote I think are in my department .	discussion
-D	1895.64	Maybe more on Okay .	discussion
-B	1897.7	Yeah .	discussion
-A	1897.72	Yeah .	discussion
-C	1898.07	I have to know what it has to do , so if you wanna you know the changing the channels kind of s thing is , I have to integrate that in the design .	discussion
-A	1905.41	Okay .	discussion
-A	1906.08	So he's layout and you're function .	discussion
-C	1908.89	Yeah .	discussion
-A	1909.66	Form function okay .	discussion
-C	1912.08	I think that's a that's a good separation .	discussion
-B	1913.5	But do I have to to uh to yeah to make the the menu layout also ?	discussion
-B	1917.87	Or Are you going to do that ?	discussion
-A	1919.56	Yeah .	discussion
-C	1919.67	Mm .	discussion
-D	1920.01	Yeah .	discussion
-D	1920.89	Yeah I guess so .	discussion
-B	1921.26	Yeah ?	discussion
-B	1921.84	I I'm going to make yeah o okay .	discussion
-A	1922.0	I think i that's your department yes , because w he already knows what Yeah .	discussion
-D	1923.84	Yeah .	discussion
-C	1924.04	Yeah we have to kind of work together .	discussion
-B	1926.35	Yeah .	discussion
-C	1926.37	If if I make the the the yeah the menu like , I have to state which function has to be in the menu , and then you have to decide , it's , in a in a way that b is user-friendly .	discussion
-A	1928.76	But we're not allowed .	discussion
-B	1936.12	Yeah .	discussion
-B	1937.67	Okay .	discussion
-B	1937.87	Y you you are going to make a list of what functions are uh are going to to be on the the screen , the menu screen .	discussion
-A	1942.67	Yeah .	discussion
-C	1944.42	Yeah .	discussion
-B	1945.78	And I'm going to make a a nice menu uh with with pages and yeah .	discussion
-D	1948.3	Yeah .	discussion
-A	1948.98	Yeah .	discussion
-C	1949.28	I think yeah .	discussion
-D	1949.86	With with some l with some layers in it .	discussion
-D	1951.8	So some menus .	discussion
-A	1952.16	Yeah and also make clear which buttons to press to get certain result , because that's always the difficulty .	discussion
-D	1957.25	Yeah .	discussion
-A	1959.18	Every device has its own Menu okay .	discussion
-D	1960.68	Yeah .	discussion
-B	1960.74	Yeah .	discussion
-D	1961.15	Well I guess this this button , the the the okay , menu okay .	discussion
-A	1966.3	Yeah .	discussion
-D	1966.97	Or you can incorporate two uh difference uh different buttons .	discussion
-D	1971.34	Uh like uh for your mobile phone .	discussion
-D	1973.98	Um so this is only for to get in the menu , or to exit it .	discussion
-A	1977.84	Mm .	discussion
-D	1978.61	And then one to confirm , and one to go one step back .	discussion
-A	1982.14	Back .	discussion
-A	1982.89	Yeah .	discussion
-D	1983.81	So it's like the the save button on your your mobile phone , if you have a Nokia or like that .	discussion
-D	1988.21	Or the or the no button .	discussion
-C	1989.85	Mm-hmm .	discussion
-D	1990.29	To go one step back you it's only two extra buttons , but if it if it's very clear that they are for the screen Yeah because this this is used for both .	discussion
-B	1993.24	Yeah .	discussion
-B	1993.5	W we Uh I think we have to to group , to make two groups .	discussion
-B	2000.7	Um the one group for the for the display , and one group for the basic functions , and Yeah okay but we we have a m yeah but maybe that's that's not uh yeah if you're if you're z zapping uh with your uh yeah remote control , you can press the the menu button , and then you are suddenly into the the yeah the display .	discussion
-C	2005.71	Yeah .	discussion
-A	2006.24	Yeah but they're incorporated ?	discussion
-A	2008.64	Up and down is Smart ?	discussion
-D	2023.17	Into your screen .	discussion
-D	2024.19	Okay .	discussion
-D	2024.55	So you l should leave the menu button out of here .	discussion
-C	2025.59	You wanna separate uh .	discussion
-B	2027.44	Yeah .	discussion
-D	2028.34	And and just put it under the screen , the screen Yeah .	discussion
-A	2029.83	Put it on top .	discussion
-B	2030.02	Yeah j just just group group the yeah we make these the advanced functions and these the basic functions .	discussion
-A	2037.85	Mm-hmm .	discussion
-B	2038.11	So we make a yeah a line between them .	discussion
-D	2042.49	But we should place the screen on top , right ?	discussion
-A	2046.09	Well But that's uh J Jurgen's department .	discussion
-B	2046.95	F oh yeah .	discussion
-B	2047.71	Okay yeah we swap uh Okay .	discussion
-D	2049.08	Yeah .	discussion
-B	2050.7	Yeah .	discussion
-D	2050.84	Yeah .	discussion
-B	2051.31	So we make it a Okay .	discussion
-D	2051.49	You just you just find out and .	discussion
-A	2053.11	You just make the layout .	discussion
-A	2054.92	You do we do the extra two buttons or not ?	discussion
-B	2058.65	Uh Yeah .	discussion
-C	2059.91	I think you should .	discussion
-A	2061.03	Yeah .	discussion
-C	2061.56	It's easier .	discussion
-C	2062.33	If you put too many functions in one button it gets confusing .	discussion
-A	2065.33	Yeah okay .	discussion
-D	2065.36	Yeah .	discussion
-A	2065.87	That's true .	discussion
-B	2066.49	So we have a a menu button and a s Okay .	discussion
-A	2068.61	And to , okay and back , also .	discussion
-D	2070.07	Yeah .	discussion
-B	2070.76	Okay and back button .	discussion
-D	2071.45	Yeah , or confirm and back .	discussion
-A	2072.35	And of course the four arrows .	discussion
-D	2073.09	Whatever .	discussion
-D	2074.96	Yeah .	discussion
-C	2076.14	No .	discussion
-A	2076.83	But those are still y doubly used .	discussion
-D	2078.92	Should we save this picture , or or you know what it looks like ?	discussion
-A	2079.02	Both the L_C_D_ Yeah .	discussion
-B	2081.22	Yeah I'm I'm not s clear about uh the the extra two buttons .	discussion
-B	2085.76	We have a menu button and That's the the one with the yeah okay .	discussion
-D	2087.26	Yeah .	discussion
-D	2088.24	That that just to to activate the screen .	discussion
-D	2092.29	So And then with these buttons , woa , y you navigate .	discussion
-A	2092.31	Menu button access the menu in the L_C_D_ screen .	discussion
-A	2098.13	You can navigate .	discussion
-B	2100.95	Okay .	discussion
-A	2101.74	But you can also navigate the channels .	discussion
-A	2104.16	And the volume .	discussion
-B	2104.22	Okay so that that's not uh Yeah that Those are multifunctional .	discussion
-A	2106.38	Those are both both yeah .	discussion
-C	2109.51	Hey is it interesting for users if we put LED lights under the buttons ?	discussion
-C	2114.29	So that if you uh press on the menu function that only the buttons that are used for the menu are ligh li light up .	discussion
-D	2120.63	Yeah .	discussion
-D	2122.33	L l litten up yeah .	discussion
-B	2124.14	Yeah .	discussion
-D	2125.16	That's very good idea .	discussion
-A	2125.64	Oh five minutes .	discussion
-C	2127.8	N Yeah and then it's also easier to integrate several functions in one button .	discussion
-D	2127.85	Alright .	discussion
-D	2128.94	Yeah that's a good idea because then it becomes clear which buttons are active now , which you can use .	discussion
-A	2129.22	Light uh Yeah sure .	discussion
-B	2138.39	Yeah .	discussion
-A	2139.39	Okay .	discussion
-D	2139.9	Yeah .	discussion
-A	2140.76	Um Anything else ?	discussion
-D	2141.55	So Those buttons are are lit up .	discussion
-C	2144.68	I think not .	discussion
-D	2145.55	But just one thing .	discussion
-D	2147.51	Should we use those two ?	discussion
-D	2149.47	Them ?	discussion
-D	2149.86	Or only this to to scroll ?	discussion
-D	2152.23	And then use the two functional buttons to confirm , to go into something ?	discussion
-A	2152.25	I've Volume .	discussion
-D	2157.88	Oh no we have to use this to adjust some some bars ?	discussion
-B	2160.42	Yeah .	discussion
-C	2160.52	Yeah keep it optional 'cause maybe you can you know go left to right and up and down in a in one menu .	discussion
-D	2166.05	Yeah .	discussion
-D	2166.79	And maybe we should use this also as an okay button , still .	discussion
-D	2171.1	And then just only a back button .	discussion
-A	2174.87	Well we have those buttons .	discussion
-B	2175.91	No Yeah .	discussion
-C	2176.01	The pr the problem with the okay button in the middle is , sorry sorry , uh is uh if you're pressing up and down , you can easily press the okay once you , when you're not already at your choice .	discussion
-A	2177.09	We use all four .	discussion
-A	2180.17	Yeah okay go ahead .	discussion
-D	2180.47	Yeah ?	discussion
-D	2188.58	Yeah .	discussion
-B	2189.04	So maybe make one uh one okay button and and one navigation button .	discussion
-D	2191.89	And one back .	discussion
-A	2192.24	Yeah that was already decided .	discussion
-B	2195.81	Yeah the with with the the channel and the volume uh yeah m a multifunctional navigation button .	discussion
-A	2200.79	Okay that's what we decided earlier on .	discussion
-B	2202.56	Yeah okay .	discussion
-D	2202.89	Yeah .	closing
-A	2203.23	Right okay .	closing
-B	2203.8	Yeah .	closing
-A	2204.22	So yeah I wanna close down .	closing
-C	2205.48	You wanna close down huh ?	closing
-D	2207.41	Yeah .	closing
-A	2207.46	I have to , sorry .	closing
-C	2208.69	That's okay .	closing
-D	2208.69	Yeah .	closing
-A	2208.94	it's not because I don't like you but yh we have lunch break , and then we can work for thirty minutes , and I have to write very fast to make the minich min minutes .	closing
-C	2212.43	Already .	closing
-D	2220.14	Yeah .	closing
-A	2220.2	And then uh we'll see I don't know .	closing
-C	2223.89	Alright .	closing
-C	2224.38	How m how long is the lunchbreak ?	closing
-D	2227.66	We have to ask .	closing
-A	2227.96	Nobody told me .	closing
-C	2229.06	Okay .	closing
-B	2229.39	But do we have to write uh to write down uh the our stuff now ?	closing
-B	2232.76	Or first lunchbreak ?	closing
-A	2234.48	No I th believe there's first lunch break .	closing
-B	2234.63	Because I I've everything in my head now so Okay .	closing
-A	2238.28	Yeah .	closing
-A	2239.32	Or you can just Yeah ?	closing
-C	2239.48	Mm .	closing
-B	2242.24	Yeah .	closing
-A	2243.46	'Kay .	closing
-D	2245.01	Yes .	closing
-B	2247.51	'Kay .	closing
-A	2247.97	I think you can put uh the laptop back in the room and 'Kay .	closing
-C	2248.17	This is Yeah .	closing
-B	2250.81	Yeah .	closing
-D	2251.11	Yeah .	closing
-B	2252.02	Yes sir .	closing
-D	2253.12	Time pressure .	closing
-A	2256.18	Yeah it's a lot of pressure .	closing
-C	2260.93	Sorry for my uh not finished presentation uh .	closing
-A	2262.46	That's okay .	closing
-A	2264.19	Oh yeah .	closing
-B	2264.27	Oh no no .	closing
-D	2264.75	Yeah we'll kick your ass later .	closing
-D	2266.1	No .	closing
-C	2266.83	Bring it on .	closing
-D	2267.53	Uh .	closing
-A	2270.18	I don't know if it works but it should be saved .	closing
-D	2270.22	Aye Y you saved it ?	closing
-D	2273.21	Does it save automatically in the project folder ?	closing
-D	2275.64	Or Okay .	closing
-A	2275.82	Yeah .	closing
-A	2276.57	It's uh Should be here .	closing
-D	2282.35	We'll see .	closing
-D	2283.06	Just put back my laptop .	closing
-A	2284.21	Smart board .	closing
-D	2285.48	Alright .	closing
-A	2285.68	Don't know if you can use it but Yeah .	closing
-B	2286.01	Okay .	closing
-D	2287.34	Yeah you can open it with the picture preview or stuff like that .	closing
-B	2289.03	And uh we have to make uh some maps with uh with the all the the data we uh gathered .	closing
-A	2294.62	I try to organise it by these three .	closing
-A	2298.39	Yeah yeah yeah .	closing
-B	2299.31	It's it's just my own map so I put everything into the But you got some extra information uh Okay .	closing
-A	2303.06	I don't really mind .	closing
-A	2304.55	I just put the minutes here and we'll see .	closing
-A	2309.63	Yeah that's in the functional design uh folder .	closing
-A	2313.06	Yeah .	closing
-A	2313.78	Yeah that's just basically what I just showed .	closing
-B	2316.18	But where do you did you get the newsflash ?	closing
-A	2317.73	Yeah .	closing
-A	2318.1	Yeah I got it by yeah .	closing
-B	2319.04	You're the only one uh okay .	closing
-A	2321.8	I'm gonna get kicked if I don't do it so Make me proud .	closing
-D	2321.93	internet .	closing
-B	2324.25	Okay .	closing
-C	2324.25	Alright .	closing
-D	2325.0	Alright .	closing
-B	2326.11	Yeah .	closing
-C	2333.39	I'll try to .	closing
-C	2334.44	So first we have a lunchbreak now ?	closing
-A	2336.86	Yeah .	closing
-C	2337.45	Alright .	closing
-A	2339.02	I believe so .	closing
-A	2341.01	just ask .	closing
-C	2343.53	Mm-hmm .	closing
-C	2344.83	I dunno where she .	closing

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-D	82.13	Yes , I made it .	chitchat
-D	85.74	English from now on .	chitchat
-D	90.38	Drawing or Yeah .	chitchat
-A	91.53	Yeah just testing .	chitchat
-A	95.66	Mm ?	chitchat
-C	98.35	Just kidding .	chitchat
-A	98.37	English .	chitchat
-C	102.92	So annoying .	chitchat
-A	104.1	Break is over .	chitchat
-D	106.41	Ooh it works .	chitchat
-A	107.06	Whoo .	chitchat
-A	110.12	Spicy .	chitchat
-D	110.91	Spicy .	chitchat
-D	112.4	Where are are all the other presentations ?	agenda/equipment issues
-C	115.86	I just put it in the in the shared folder so it should be yeah I think so .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	119.56	The conceptual or Ah .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	122.85	Yeah , conceptual design .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	124.72	What or whatever does it No no no , can you go back one ?	agenda/equipment issues
-D	126.02	Because I see only my own presentation yeah .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	132.07	Uh 'cause it has to be PowerPoint pre yeah components design , that's it .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	134.59	This ?	agenda/equipment issues
-D	136.13	I'll just put it in there .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	138.74	So , he's coming .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	142.63	I did get a bit more done than the last time , 'cause I knew that I didn't have time so I just copy and paste everything into the Sometimes I have these pop-ups or these sounds and there's nothing there , and also with I don't know how to use PowerPoint , so it takes me forever to get something done with it .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	143.26	Or not .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	144.55	Okay .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	145.16	Oh okay .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	148.82	Ah , I can't cut and paste it into the other folder but Move to meeting room .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	149.98	Ah .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	151.2	She .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	151.31	You can look at the final report , 'cause I have to record everything we are deciding and such , so I'm trying to write it down between everything else .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	162.33	Yeah .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	167.13	Oh .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	168.04	Yeah me too , .	agenda/equipment issues
-B	173.71	I I've got the same problem as well .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	175.78	Yeah .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	177.87	Yeah .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	178.35	Yeah .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	178.83	Here we go again .	opening
-A	180.45	Welcome .	opening
-A	182.84	Uh we have again three presentations and then we have to decide on what concepts the mobile phone has to uh f the remote control has to support .	opening
-C	182.93	Thi Mm-hmm .	opening
-A	193.83	So who wants go .	opening
-D	195.98	Yes .	opening
-C	196.72	Who wants to start ?	opening
-A	196.73	Yes ?	opening
-D	197.33	Me first again or yeah .	opening
-A	198.49	Yeah sure .	opening
-B	198.68	Oh .	opening
-B	199.24	No .	opening
-A	199.39	Doesn't matter .	opening
-B	199.69	Yeah .	opening
-B	200.13	No problem Yeah .	marketing expert presentation opening
-D	201.89	Alright .	opening
-D	202.99	Did you open it already or no .	opening
-A	204.34	No .	opening
-D	204.67	Ah .	opening
-D	208.97	Ah .	opening
-D	212.06	Yes .	opening
-D	223.43	So welcome to the marketing presentation once again .	trendwatching
-D	226.89	Um this time about trendwatching .	trendwatching
-D	231.31	Uh well there has been inv investigation again , in the in the remote control market .	trendwatching
-D	236.5	Uh it shows a number of developments .	trendwatching
-D	238.36	Uh I will address them uh in a moment .	trendwatching
-D	241.68	Um fashion watch watchers uh have detected the trends for young public , because that's our public .	trendwatching
-D	247.92	Um well fruit and vegetables will be will be the most important theme for clothing , uh shoes and furniture .	trendwatching
-D	255.09	And the feel of the material is expected to be spongey .	trendwatching
-D	258.23	So um the developments I will address them oh yeah well this is the fruit and vegetables looks of fresh bright colours .	trendwatching
-D	265.93	So to give you an idea .	trendwatching
-D	268.37	Um well the developments ?	trendwatching
-D	270.56	Uh development one .	trendwatching
-D	272.9	Uh well most important aspect for remote control happens to be a fancy look-and-feel .	trendwatching
-D	278.71	Instead of the current uh functional look-and-feel .	trendwatching
-D	281.65	Um well fancy stands for an original look-and-feel of the case and the interface .	trendwatching
-D	287.74	And the second most important aspect is that a remote control should be technological uh innovative .	trendwatching
-D	295.76	Um well it stands for the use of technical features that do not exist in current remote controls .	trendwatching
-D	301.36	I think we pretty much covered that with our screen and um and speech recognition , so I don't expect that to be a problem .	trendwatching
-C	304.74	Sound .	trendwatching
-C	306.54	Yeah yeah uh uh .	trendwatching
-D	309.16	And the third development um is that the remote control should be easy to use .	trendwatching
-D	315.37	Um Well the first aspect uh was twice as important as the second aspect,w which was twice as important as the third aspect .	trendwatching
-D	327.32	So um that kind of gets you this ratios .	trendwatching
-A	327.68	Mm-hmm .	trendwatching
-D	330.67	So fancy look-and-feel uh is the most important uh point of attention .	trendwatching
-D	336.17	Uh so the fruits and vegetables in combination with the spongey material .	trendwatching
-D	340.16	Um well technolog technological innovation , we've covered that pretty much I guess .	trendwatching
-D	345.1	Um and easy to use , I don't think that will be problem .	trendwatching
-D	348.96	So my point of attention is especially this part .	trendwatching
-D	353.36	That this will be a crux .	trendwatching
-C	353.65	Yeah .	marketing expert presentation
-D	357.88	So that was the marketing uh presentation .	marketing expert presentation
-D	360.43	I had only one document left .	marketing expert presentation
-C	362.09	And shall I go first ?	marketing expert presentation
-C	363.6	So I Yeah ?	marketing expert presentation
-B	363.63	No .	marketing expert presentation
-B	363.97	I I don't mi I don't mind .	marketing expert presentation
-B	365.91	That's Do you want to go first ?	marketing expert presentation
-D	366.5	So kind of this So a k a small example .	marketing expert presentation
-B	368.39	Okay .	marketing expert presentation
-A	368.61	Yeah yeah sure .	marketing expert presentation
-A	369.36	No .	marketing expert presentation
-B	369.79	Yeah .	marketing expert presentation
-D	370.97	Kind of this this look .	marketing expert presentation
-D	372.82	Uh nothing about the buttons but just sponge kind of thing , and and some fruit and colours I dunno .	marketing expert presentation
-B	374.98	Yeah .	marketing expert presentation
-D	379.93	Just made a quick design .	marketing expert presentation
-A	382.98	Cool .	marketing expert presentation
-B	384.16	It's better than than my uh drawing .	marketing expert presentation
-D	384.5	Alright .	marketing expert presentation
-C	384.84	Alright .	marketing expert presentation
-A	386.79	Yeah you're just the user interface hmm ?	marketing expert presentation
-B	389.14	Yeah okay but I have to design the Yeah .	marketing expert presentation industrial designer presentation
-C	389.23	Uh components .	industrial designer presentation
-A	391.6	Yeah layout .	industrial designer presentation
-C	395.04	Oh no .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	395.42	Yeah okay .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	395.75	Yeah .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	396.31	It's okay .	agenda/equipment issues
-A	396.89	You probably opened it .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	398.98	Yeah true .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	399.7	Um Alright .	industrial designer presentation agenda/equipment issues
-A	400.38	F_ five .	agenda/equipment issues
-D	401.15	F_ five .	agenda/equipment issues
-C	404.95	So I'm dealing with the components design .	industrial designer presentation
-C	408.83	Um let's see .	industrial designer presentation
-C	410.73	I uh used some design examples we had uh from similar products .	industrial designer presentation
-C	416.63	And I used uh possibilities from our manufacturing department about current components which will have to be implemented in the design .	industrial designer presentation
-C	426.27	That's why I had to , wanted to go first .	industrial designer presentation
-C	428.84	Well they gave me um an idea about what people want .	industrial designer presentation
-C	432.97	We're f mainly focusing on this group , but I want to make the distinction clear .	industrial designer presentation
-C	437.93	Uh I could not drag the pictures into the the slides so s so I don't have examples of how it looks like .	industrial designer presentation
-C	446.22	But it comes down to what you uh what you think we should do with the spongey and the fruity looking uh type .	industrial designer presentation
-C	453.5	If you , the young dynamic people want soft primary colours uh , which looks like fruits you know , you can and shapes that are curved and not uh solid straight lines anymore .	industrial designer presentation
-C	467.05	So this basically um yeah goes on to what you were mentioning earlier .	industrial designer presentation
-C	473.51	There is a lot of um factors involved in choosing the components .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	478.95	There's a lot of options that we have to discuss .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	481.75	Uh for example the energy source .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	484.25	we have four types .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	485.37	The basic battery .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	487.32	Uh we have a hand dynamo , which we yeah we Dutch refer to it as the kneipgatt .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	491.99	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	493.79	Uh the kinetic provision of energy which means if you move the thing , if you shake it .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	499.49	Which will be fun for toddlers right , if they wanna use the And uh of course solar cells .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	501.82	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	505.45	But I dunno how we would use that into the design of the actual product .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	508.44	Wi an indoors .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	510.18	So uh my yeah also also in you know countries where there's n isn't much light like in Scandinavia , they wouldn't be y able to use it half of the year you know .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	511.43	Oh .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	511.55	Yeah okay .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	513.18	Calculator's can do it .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	520.85	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	521.75	So that's not cool either .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	521.86	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	522.01	Mm-hmm .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	523.44	So um for the uh a case , there's uh the traditional uncurved flat hard case .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	530.16	Single curved , which means that it has uh curves in one dimension .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	534.07	Or the double curved .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	535.75	Um I wasn't able to finish my uh personal preferences sheet , but well you know that we will have to go for the double curved 'cause it's daring and different from what we have now .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	547.49	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	547.84	Uh the case materials .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	549.62	Well we have all kinds of hard uh materials like the the hard plastic , the wood and the titanium .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	556.61	I would definitely go for rubber 'cause it fits most in what people wanna see nowadays .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	562.56	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	563.16	Um poo , this is a lot of text .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	565.76	I wasn't able to organise this yet .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	567.9	We have yeah several uh interface designs .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	574.18	Uh we can use a scroll buttons for the menus , but we already kind of decided to go for the f for the pushbuttons , for the the arrow buttons .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	579.17	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	579.81	Pushbuttons .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	581.63	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	584.56	So that's not really interesting .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	584.84	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	586.83	Electronics ?	components, materials and energy sources
-C	588.92	Yeah , maybe we wanna decide on what electronics to use the advanced chip I think is easiest to implement uh for the production , 'cause they they can print it better .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	605.04	Um Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	611.1	I think this is about it .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	613.27	Yeah I was working on some per personal preferences .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	616.94	I first uh chose for the battery , 'cause yeah I'm traditional and that's the most obvious , easiest choice to go to .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	623.59	But I really think that we should maybe uh think about the kinetic energy , where you have to move the thing to be able to use it .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	628.18	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	629.61	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	630.14	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	630.47	As an optional uh feature .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	630.53	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	633.33	Or combine uh both with a with one uh Okay .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	636.33	I guess we can only choose one .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	636.35	Uh I think you can only fit one uh source of energy on the Yeah I didn't receive any info uh .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	636.69	Yeah maybe we I can imagine that the kinetic uh type energy source would be more expensive to make .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	645.93	But it is more longlasting , that the people don't have to ever buy batteries again .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	650.88	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	651.44	And it's more fun .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	652.64	And it's also more fun yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	653.85	I always chuck my uh remote control around , so Yeah y exactly .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	655.82	Yeah , just playing with it and especially when the material's rubber .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	657.59	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	661.28	It can be done , I mean , you can't harm it , so it's a perfect combination I guess .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	661.5	S yeah it's safe .	components, materials and energy sources
-B	664.26	And throw it .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	665.22	You don't have to be scared about bouncing it off the g floor and breaking it or whatever .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	668.95	Yeah .	interface specialist presentation
-B	669.85	Okay .	interface specialist presentation
-C	670.08	So that's the end of it .	industrial designer presentation
-B	672.9	Yeah .	interface specialist presentation
-D	673.43	So So double curved is like this , this , this , or Mm .	interface specialist presentation discussion
-C	674.7	Uh go ahead .	interface specialist presentation
-A	675.02	'Kay next .	interface specialist presentation
-C	680.79	No it means curved in two dimensions .	discussion
-C	683.35	So uh w single curved ?	discussion
-C	686.02	Uh let's say would be a b square box , but then with curves on one dimension .	discussion
-D	691.42	Yeah .	discussion
-C	691.51	And double curved would means that it would have curves curves in every direction .	discussion
-D	694.64	Also in in height ?	discussion
-A	695.34	Uh Okay .	interface specialist presentation
-D	696.63	Yeah okay .	discussion
-C	696.87	Like three D_ .	discussion
-B	697.53	Yeah .	interface specialist presentation
-A	697.82	Can we uh Yeah .	interface specialist presentation
-B	698.39	One one uh very important thing I was uh yeah thinking about is the speech uh option .	interface specialist presentation
-C	698.73	Yeah .	discussion
-B	704.44	We were going to use that .	interface specialist presentation
-B	706.43	Yeah .	interface specialist presentation
-B	707.03	So um Yeah um yeah that's one thing uh which I'm not sure uh of how to implement it uh into the remote control .	interface specialist presentation
-C	717.43	Design ?	interface specialist presentation
-A	717.84	Well the visual representation is not there with speech but you can Yeah .	interface specialist presentation
-B	720.97	No okay but it has to be combined with with the menu uh for functions and So okay .	interface specialist presentation
-A	726.32	Just yeah .	interface specialist presentation
-A	727.6	I think you can just uh match the speech commands with the functions that are already present .	interface specialist presentation
-B	733.78	Yeah .	interface specialist presentation
-B	735.64	Okay .	interface specialist presentation
-A	735.72	So I don't think you have to design anything else for that .	interface specialist presentation
-D	736.01	Yeah with the programme .	interface specialist presentation
-B	737.62	But do uh j do we uh do the speech just for the basic options , for the simple buttons ?	interface specialist presentation
-A	742.76	Both .	interface specialist presentation
-B	743.72	For for everything , also for the advanced options ?	interface specialist presentation
-A	744.97	Yeah .	interface specialist presentation
-B	745.88	Okay .	interface specialist presentation
-B	747.06	Uh we have this very uh basic uh trendy design .	interface specialist presentation
-B	751.16	Everybody says it so that's what's uh yeah um Yeah in the in the last uh meeting we uh we were yeah putting the the simple and the advanced options separated .	interface specialist presentation
-B	765.5	That's yeah obvious .	interface specialist presentation
-B	768.86	Um yeah .	interface specialist presentation
-B	770.15	Pressing the the menu option uh will disable uh all other options on your uh remote control .	interface specialist presentation
-B	777.27	And only the the L_C_D_ panel will uh light up and then you can only uh change the yeah the options .	interface specialist presentation
-D	784.0	And and the and the buttons that you need to control it , I guess .	interface specialist presentation
-B	785.81	Yeah .	interface specialist presentation
-A	786.28	Yeah .	interface specialist presentation
-B	788.07	Um yeah design has to be very attractive but that's your your op your yeah .	interface specialist presentation
-B	797.31	you have to uh delete this but this is the the the simple uh layout .	interface specialist presentation
-A	799.03	Yeah .	interface specialist presentation
-B	801.22	Uh display on the upper side with the the menu button and maybe a some sort of cancel button or save button .	interface specialist presentation
-A	809.97	That would be the back .	interface specialist presentation
-B	810.03	I'm The back .	interface specialist presentation
-D	811.62	Yeah .	interface specialist presentation
-A	812.02	Back and okay .	interface specialist presentation
-D	812.85	Back and okay .	interface specialist presentation
-B	813.05	Back and okay yeah .	interface specialist presentation
-B	814.83	Uh What ?	interface specialist presentation
-A	814.94	You did read the minutes I wrote ?	interface specialist presentation
-A	817.45	You did read the minutes I wrote ?	interface specialist presentation
-B	820.72	A little bit I think but not not everything w Okay .	interface specialist presentation
-C	821.14	I And rubber .	interface specialist presentation components, materials and energy sources
-A	822.34	Oh okay 'cause I pretty much summed up all the buttons there were .	interface specialist presentation
-A	826.14	So I hate doing work for nothing .	interface specialist presentation
-B	826.64	Oh I uh didn't read that .	interface specialist presentation
-B	829.35	But But this is the the basic uh design uh for the for the m yeah for the buttons .	interface specialist presentation
-B	838.64	Um I wanted to to categorise everything .	interface specialist presentation
-B	842.85	Uh with a speech display uh yeah , sound , everything you you noted in your uh minutes .	interface specialist presentation
-B	850.37	Um every pushbutton has uh has its own uh LED light .	interface specialist presentation
-B	855.18	So you can uh yeah change uh m make it more trendy for for younger people .	interface specialist presentation
-A	855.26	Mm-hmm .	interface specialist presentation
-B	860.51	And uh if there are older people they wanted more uh yeah more uh luxurous so that's an a also an option .	interface specialist presentation
-B	870.92	Um that was it .	interface specialist presentation
-A	873.5	That was it ?	interface specialist presentation
-B	874.42	Yeah .	interface specialist presentation
-A	875.58	Okay .	interface specialist presentation
-A	876.15	Uh again .	interface specialist presentation
-A	881.92	Ugh .	interface specialist presentation
-A	895.31	Okay so what we have to decide is what kind of components do we use ?	components, materials and energy sources
-A	900.3	Uh energy source , chip type , case type .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	903.52	And user interface .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	905.86	But I didn't see a clear distinction between these so I think what we have is okay .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	911.1	So we only , we already decided that kinetic would be the choice for energy .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	916.24	No .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	916.84	Uh the case would be doubly curved .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	919.66	Rubber material .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	919.83	So Rubber material .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	920.66	Rubber material .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	922.79	And that's the only thing we have left .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	926.48	Yeah we need the the chip on print to be able to support the the screen and uh and f audio function .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	931.32	Oh okay .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	931.76	No it's easy .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	933.37	So that's uh is that is that the advanced chip ?	components, materials and energy sources
-C	936.51	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	937.27	Advanced chip .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	937.62	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	938.36	Wow .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	938.37	Otherwise you would have a simple chip , just for pressing buttons .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	938.48	Okay .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	941.04	Yeah .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	941.59	But we need more .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	942.89	Alright .	components, materials and energy sources
-D	943.95	Kinetic .	components, materials and energy sources
-C	944.0	I'm just thinking , this is not my department , but I I'm not sure what this is gonna cost , to be able to m So 'cause we need to sell it for twenty five Euro a piece .	discussion
-A	944.65	Too .	discussion
-D	945.24	Double curved .	components, materials and energy sources
-A	949.82	Uh I didn't get any info on this .	discussion
-A	951.76	So Yeah .	discussion
-C	955.07	That's gonna be difficult huh ?	discussion
-B	956.18	Yeah .	discussion
-D	957.0	The cost of making it should be twelve and a half ?	discussion
-A	960.29	I have total here .	discussion
-C	960.79	Yeah .	discussion
-C	963.95	Yeah yeah yeah .	discussion
-A	964.12	Yeah I don't know .	discussion
-A	964.83	I didn't get any information about that so Yeah .	discussion
-B	966.55	We're going to produce it in uh China so it's no problem .	discussion
-C	969.85	Child labour man , we love it .	discussion
-D	972.22	Yeah , so it's cheap .	discussion
-A	972.72	Who doesn't .	discussion
-A	974.17	Uh let's see .	discussion
-A	975.36	Is there a new thing ?	discussion
-D	976.13	Um well the interface type supplements .	discussion
-A	978.45	Yeah the interface , maybe can Ooh .	discussion
-B	980.9	Uh it's it's quite difficult because we we haven't got all the options uh yeah .	discussion
-A	986.72	No .	discussion
-A	987.49	Uh do you have a picture of doubly curved case ?	discussion
-A	992.27	And could you put that in the group folder ?	discussion
-C	994.37	Um let me see .	discussion
-A	994.48	Of the project folder .	discussion
-C	996.31	Wait a sec .	discussion
-D	996.78	If you go to your homepage or something , you should get your own information .	discussion
-C	998.79	Yeah I'm going there now .	discussion
-C	1002.66	Inspiration .	discussion
-D	1006.15	I got my fresh and fyoo fruity uh picture uh also uh over there , so No .	discussion
-C	1009.79	Well Um yeah maybe it's Maybe it's easier Yeah .	discussion
-A	1010.17	Ah you didn't draw it yourself .	discussion
-A	1013.32	Ah .	discussion
-D	1014.14	Too less time .	discussion
-D	1019.34	Yeah , also the menu .	discussion
-D	1020.8	Yeah that that w Yeah .	discussion
-B	1021.06	Yeah .	discussion
-B	1021.51	This is the the menu I was uh looking uh at .	discussion
-D	1024.45	Yeah I was thinking of that also , with with a with a uh arrow .	discussion
-B	1026.8	Yeah .	discussion
-A	1027.61	Arrow .	discussion
-B	1028.09	Arrow yeah .	discussion
-D	1029.09	So that indicates that there's an menu under that menu .	discussion
-A	1029.14	Yeah .	discussion
-C	1033.04	Yeah perfect .	discussion
-D	1034.19	So Oh yeah .	discussion
-B	1034.2	Yeah .	discussion
-C	1036.96	Maybe it's easier if you guys come over here .	discussion
-A	1037.16	'S the target group .	discussion
-B	1038.26	S yeah .	discussion
-C	1038.89	S see this is the the the standard traditional type , where the form uh yeah serves the function , you know .	discussion
-A	1039.17	Yeah sure .	discussion
-C	1047.26	It's like really basic .	discussion
-C	1049.07	But this m is more appealing to old people and we don't want that .	discussion
-A	1051.7	Yeah .	discussion
-D	1051.7	Yeah .	discussion
-C	1052.85	This is what we're looking for .	look and usability
-C	1054.25	And th that means curved in both dire dire uh dimensions .	look and usability
-A	1057.81	Oh okay .	look and usability
-C	1058.17	Not only like this but it has to be exactly .	look and usability
-A	1058.61	I see .	look and usability
-A	1059.38	Yeah also like this .	look and usability
-A	1060.57	So you can hold it .	look and usability
-C	1062.48	It has to be kind of instead of the PlayStation , the module .	look and usability
-C	1066.72	It has to be like the the Game Cube , you know , where your thumbs would be laying in the instrument and it has to be nice to hold .	look and usability
-B	1068.94	Yeah .	look and usability
-B	1072.77	But it has also to it it has also to be uh luxurous uh for for yeah rich people .	look and usability
-C	1074.0	And It ha Yeah but that's that's the the problem uh yeah the dilemma actually , 'cause we wanna appeal to the to the young public with fancy with flashy colours , and with a lot of shape .	look and usability
-B	1079.29	Th this looks a little bit like like for only for children .	look and usability
-A	1081.1	The children's story .	look and usability
-A	1082.22	Yeah I've got it .	look and usability
-B	1082.76	So Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1084.07	Distinction .	look and usability
-A	1084.95	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1095.18	And Yeah , and the and the rubber , it it will look cheap always , you know , with the There is mobile phones , in which you can change the colour also of the lights .	look and usability
-B	1097.63	The colour Yeah .	look and usability
-B	1100.33	Okay but the the colours , you you can make it uh make the colours with LEDs uh beneath the the buttons .	look and usability
-B	1106.22	If you press a button and you can disable the the colour LEDs for for people that don't like it .	look and usability
-A	1106.39	Mm-hmm .	look and usability
-D	1112.03	Mm .	look and usability
-B	1116.3	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1116.83	Maybe we should consider this function .	look and usability
-A	1119.3	Mm-hmm .	look and usability
-C	1119.68	To customise it and so I mean kids can make it look more flashy with different kinds of colours and people who want something , you know , different , or more uh design , they can go for one colour like uh for example this uh photo th camera .	look and usability
-B	1124.99	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1127.84	Different .	look and usability
-A	1131.52	Mm-hmm .	look and usability
-A	1137.03	Camera .	look and usability
-D	1138.36	Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1140.14	Cool .	look and usability
-D	1140.57	S underwater uh yeah .	look and usability
-A	1141.72	Yeah submarine .	look and usability
-C	1144.51	Personally I think it's really ugly .	look and usability
-B	1146.56	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1147.43	Just give me the thing that it's inside there maybe I'm too old for this stuff .	look and usability
-A	1147.65	Well Yeah but this this the is for the .	look and usability
-D	1150.04	Yeah .	look and usability
-B	1150.2	Very cheap uh cheap look .	look and usability
-C	1153.47	Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1155.18	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1155.7	Okay .	look and usability
-C	1156.88	So those I think are all my oh .	look and usability
-A	1157.19	Uh Ah yeah bright colours .	look and usability
-D	1160.47	Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1160.98	Also a kind of rubber uh Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1161.31	And this is , this is with the curved that I mean .	look and usability
-A	1165.29	That's singly curved .	look and usability
-C	1166.75	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1167.36	Okay .	look and usability
-C	1167.57	Yeah ?	look and usability
-D	1168.12	That should be nice .	look and usability
-A	1168.93	Well we could make a compromise between that .	look and usability
-A	1171.77	But I don't know if it's worth the effort .	look and usability
-C	1176.01	A compromise between what ?	look and usability
-A	1177.59	Uh instead of doubly curved we take a single curved .	look and usability
-A	1182.29	So to appeal a little more to the all the public .	look and usability
-D	1182.74	So s Yeah there's only in in this dimension .	look and usability
-C	1183.36	This , this would be uh single curved uh ?	look and usability
-A	1186.28	Mm-hmm .	look and usability
-A	1188.65	Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1189.49	Like this .	look and usability
-C	1189.75	Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1189.84	So curvy or not .	look and usability
-A	1191.87	Also .	look and usability
-C	1191.9	Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1191.9	Yeah so we keep it singly c single curved then ?	look and usability
-C	1192.83	Exactly .	look and usability
-C	1193.53	Exactly .	look and usability
-A	1195.94	Yeah that would be an option .	look and usability
-A	1196.99	I don't know what you think .	look and usability
-D	1198.6	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1198.88	I think the I mean our aim is to make something different right ?	look and usability
-C	1203.49	To make something new .	look and usability
-D	1203.77	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1205.03	Mm-hmm .	look and usability
-C	1205.19	I would go for the double curved .	look and usability
-A	1206.78	Okay .	look and usability
-C	1207.91	And I I'm I'm thinking uh you know uh a drawing palette , where you have the shape for your thumb .	look and usability
-A	1208.12	Yeah I'd agree .	look and usability
-A	1213.91	Mm-hmm .	look and usability
-C	1216.6	So it kind of holds nicely , something like that .	look and usability
-B	1218.33	Yeah but if you if you make it more curved we we can make more and more options for buttons .	look and usability
-D	1218.63	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1219.12	Well this is really your decision but Yeah .	look and usability
-B	1223.37	If you have uh it have it in your hand , you you you are not only um yeah you don't need one dimension but you can use other dimensions for pressing the the buttons .	look and usability
-C	1233.86	As well .	look and usability
-C	1234.62	You can make a trigger button or something like that .	look and usability
-B	1235.75	Yeah .	look and usability
-B	1236.88	Something to shoot at your television Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1239.18	Yeah or that that is the confirmation button or something , that you scroll with your thumb , with the arrows , and then confirm .	look and usability
-A	1241.64	Mm-hmm .	look and usability
-B	1244.74	That's yeah .	look and usability
-A	1246.22	Mm-hmm .	look and usability
-C	1246.32	That would be a nice way to use it but I mean , yeah , I'm thinking big already , and we need something that well that that you can able to use in one hand I think .	look and usability
-A	1253.35	Different .	look and usability
-A	1255.49	Stands out .	look and usability
-A	1257.34	Or Oh yeah a one hand uh solution .	look and usability
-C	1259.64	Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1259.88	So from top view it looks kinda like this .	look and usability
-D	1264.13	But from the side you you can have it also in a kind of shape .	look and usability
-D	1269.58	Maybe because the the screen is on top you can have Maybe you can c have this kind of shape .	look and usability
-A	1270.14	can turn it maybe .	look and usability
-A	1271.79	To switch from buttons to interface hmm .	look and usability
-A	1274.75	If you turn it a little .	look and usability
-D	1279.2	A little upwards .	look and usability
-D	1281.16	So that the screen is more towards yourself , so you can easily see your screen .	look and usability
-A	1283.08	Oh yeah .	look and usability
-A	1283.56	Least you can easily see it .	look and usability
-C	1286.48	How about Mm-hmm .	look and usability
-D	1286.58	Well well you have it in your hand so it's a kind of an angle from your eyes to the screen .	look and usability
-D	1291.55	So then you have double double curved in some way .	look and usability
-D	1295.08	So this this is so the screen is positioned over here .	look and usability
-D	1300.95	Oh .	look and usability
-D	1301.56	Something like that .	look and usability
-D	1303.21	And the buttons are more , well it's very thick now but That's uh that's Yeah ?	look and usability
-C	1307.17	Yeah I understand what you mean .	look and usability
-C	1310.54	How about we do a uh a pop-up screen , like the laptop .	look and usability
-A	1315.98	If you can uh flip .	look and usability
-C	1316.02	So that the only the simple functions will be visible at first .	look and usability
-D	1320.09	That that you can press it and then it comes up ?	look and usability
-C	1320.25	And then if you want Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1322.95	Or But then the side view can be straight .	look and usability
-C	1323.41	Something like that .	look and usability
-A	1324.32	Uh so you have a the the side view .	look and usability
-D	1330.44	If you have a pop-up screen .	look and usability
-D	1331.8	But I dunno if that's too expensive .	look and usability
-A	1333.77	So and you want to be able to make this .	look and usability
-D	1334.2	I mean maybe it's too much Oh the advanced buttons .	look and usability
-C	1334.24	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1340.8	No uh like I would draw it like this .	look and usability
-C	1346.9	Let's say this is the side view .	look and usability
-C	1349.32	That you have a a screen that will come up here , and can go down that way .	look and usability
-C	1355.34	If you know what I mean .	look and usability
-B	1356.33	Okay .	look and usability
-C	1356.37	So that it would come up like that .	look and usability
-B	1357.01	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1358.59	Okay so the buttons are on top here , and you flip it over that way .	look and usability
-C	1362.45	Yeah or preferably even keep the simple buttons here , and then under the screen even you could put more more advanced buttons .	look and usability
-A	1366.51	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1368.67	Oh yeah .	look and usability
-A	1369.54	Yeah yeah yeah yeah .	look and usability
-D	1370.46	Right .	look and usability
-A	1371.31	Right .	look and usability
-B	1371.52	That's the the more advanced options were uh for the for the menu .	look and usability
-A	1371.65	Yeah that's good idea .	look and usability
-D	1372.29	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1376.0	Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1376.31	Yeah .	look and usability
-B	1377.11	But you you want okay .	look and usability
-C	1377.38	F for the L_C_D_ menu right ?	look and usability
-D	1379.41	Yeah .	look and usability
-B	1379.72	You just want to hide them all ?	look and usability
-C	1379.99	So w w Oh Activate and th the yeah .	look and usability
-B	1381.45	The oh .	look and usability
-D	1381.59	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1381.6	No not all because you need most of them , the arrow buttons .	look and usability
-A	1385.89	But you can hide the okay and the back uh button .	look and usability
-B	1387.67	Yeah yeah yeah .	look and usability
-A	1388.54	And the menu button also because when you flip it open and you can maybe even drop the menu button because maybe if you flip it open it will auto activate amauto uh uh automatically .	look and usability
-D	1391.2	Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1399.77	So okay b but you have t you need some button to flip this open .	look and usability
-A	1405.08	Why ?	look and usability
-A	1405.49	You could just make it mechanical .	look and usability
-C	1405.63	True .	look and usability
-C	1406.56	True .	look and usability
-C	1407.37	But you can make a , yeah , you can make a trigger here .	look and usability
-C	1409.72	You know a simple uh with a Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1409.75	Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1410.95	Yeah and it says menu and it flips open and then you have the buttons to control it , in combination with your True .	look and usability
-B	1413.31	That's but it's it's not it's not very uh very strong uh yeah if you drop it one time .	look and usability
-C	1417.07	Exactly .	look and usability
-D	1420.93	It uh c it can go open .	look and usability
-C	1421.96	Well yeah the the idea of it was , is that because you close it , you cover the L_C_D_ screen and it won't be vulnerable to scratches or whatever .	look and usability
-A	1423.6	If you cover it with rubber .	look and usability
-D	1430.49	An adv an adv and it will be covered in some kind of uh thin rubber layer or something like that .	look and usability
-B	1430.73	Okay .	look and usability
-A	1430.88	Mm .	look and usability
-C	1431.87	And Exactly .	look and usability
-A	1435.43	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1436.01	So it can bounce .	look and usability
-C	1436.09	Exactly .	look and usability
-C	1436.58	We just have to make sure that the closing mechanism won't break .	look and usability
-D	1437.25	Yeah , uh It's very no it's very strong .	look and usability
-C	1440.22	Th it's very solid yeah .	look and usability
-A	1441.47	Yeah okay so that that may work .	look and usability
-D	1441.48	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1443.27	That actually will offer some extra protection for the Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1444.94	Okay but then we still have the the the thing of the the the shape .	look and usability
-A	1450.24	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1450.57	Yeah I was thinking , if if you have your hand , it this is your th Okay .	look and usability
-A	1450.63	What kind of Harder .	look and usability
-D	1456.26	Yeah the lower part doesn't work I guess , so maybe you should try it over there .	look and usability
-C	1460.91	If this is your thumb , and this is your hand like that .	look and usability
-C	1465.73	With your uh wrist .	look and usability
-C	1467.9	That you , that it would be kind of shape like this , you know .	look and usability
-C	1472.55	So it's easier to hold in your hand , to y f Uh yeah .	look and usability
-B	1475.32	But when you are left-handed , that's that's a problem .	look and usability
-D	1475.74	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1478.91	Yeah of course .	look and usability
-C	1479.92	Yeah then w then you would have to to make it like this .	look and usability
-A	1480.1	Maybe can design two versions .	look and usability
-D	1481.86	Yeah .	look and usability
-B	1482.6	But that's that's very expensive uh Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1484.03	Like like you drew here .	look and usability
-D	1486.24	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1487.17	And maybe th then make this thicker also than the centre .	look and usability
-C	1491.22	Give it I would give it a female shape but uh yeah .	look and usability
-A	1491.47	Mm-hmm .	look and usability
-A	1492.32	And ergonomical shape .	look and usability
-C	1494.49	Anyway .	look and usability
-A	1494.5	Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1494.59	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1495.74	The female shape yeah .	look and usability
-A	1496.77	With two uh Oh yeah .	look and usability
-D	1497.64	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1497.83	Obviously .	look and usability
-B	1499.16	We we could make some some rubber uh some rubber uh yeah mouse , with which you can change uh and so if you Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1500.15	Make it more appealing to guys .	look and usability
-C	1503.24	I mean Yeah but we have hardware inside , which is so it has to have some sort of basic shape .	look and usability
-A	1506.63	Some uh k esk uh yeah .	look and usability
-D	1510.38	Yeah but but that's optional for later I guess .	look and usability
-D	1512.52	I mean , we have to make Yeah we we better so choose one Yeah so okay we should better choose one sh one shape .	look and usability
-B	1512.55	Okay .	look and usability
-A	1512.57	Yeah .	look and usability
-B	1517.9	Some yeah .	look and usability
-A	1519.18	Yeah yeah .	look and usability
-C	1520.07	And also the screen , you cannot mould it .	look and usability
-C	1521.97	You know kind of thing .	look and usability
-B	1521.98	No no no no .	look and usability
-B	1525.86	Okay .	look and usability
-C	1525.96	Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1526.41	But that's the kind of the idea , so it lays good in the hand , and then on on the side with with your thumb , you you can you can use , yeah , you can use the button option Spongey .	look and usability
-C	1529.26	And then you can You can place the screen here , which can come .	look and usability
-A	1534.15	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1535.8	So the keywords are primary co colours , spongey ?	look and usability
-C	1538.32	And but then I w I would I would do the arrows here , kind of thing .	look and usability
-D	1543.58	Spongey can be reached by means of Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1544.46	Those buttons ?	look and usability
-C	1545.45	And the simple buttons here , so that I Uh y eah that's what I mean .	look and usability
-A	1547.34	Yeah .	look and usability
-B	1547.49	Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1548.64	And and the and the control thngs in the middle ?	look and usability
-D	1551.31	The the the arrows ?	look and usability
-B	1553.71	No the arrow's over here .	look and usability
-C	1554.33	The arrows over here , and here the s simple uh or do we wanna make its shape look like a banana or something ?	look and usability
-A	1554.43	Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1555.4	Yeah and then numbers .	look and usability
-B	1555.44	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1556.41	Buttons .	look and usability
-A	1558.03	Okay .	look and usability
-D	1558.03	Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1558.56	Alright .	look and usability
-A	1559.59	I think that uh it's a nice design .	look and usability
-D	1560.45	Uh pretty nice design .	look and usability
-D	1562.75	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1562.99	It's cool .	look and usability
-D	1564.96	Yeah it looks uh pretty fancy .	look and usability
-A	1566.97	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1571.75	I dunno .	look and usability
-A	1572.75	Yeah that's Orange or something .	look and usability
-D	1574.19	Uh bananas wierd shape and other fruits also , so it's better to have um some sort of basic print and then a fruit print in some primary uh colours .	look and usability
-C	1577.77	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1585.42	Yeah we could make We should use Yeah w we need very primary colours , like bright red , bright yellow .	look and usability
-D	1585.49	I don't know what what colours should the basic print be like ?	look and usability
-D	1588.24	Like some soft green or something ?	look and usability
-D	1591.18	Or and then Oh yeah yeah , dark blue and then and then very bright , uh a yellow banana , an orange , uh a green apple , stuff like that , with very uh bright tones I guess .	look and usability
-B	1591.73	Or blue ?	look and usability
-B	1592.53	Dark blue or Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1604.47	Mm .	look and usability
-D	1604.9	So you have something like Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1606.87	Yeah .	look and usability
-B	1608.03	Yeah but the primary colours w we can uh create with the with the LEDs on the on the remote control .	look and usability
-C	1613.68	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1614.39	Yeah okay yeah .	look and usability
-B	1614.91	If you we uh yeah .	look and usability
-B	1616.76	If you make it uh just a yeah bl give it a blue colour , then it's just a neutral colour , also for the for the more uh yeah for the people .	look and usability
-D	1626.14	Mm .	look and usability
-D	1627.05	That doesn't really work .	look and usability
-A	1627.06	Huh cool .	look and usability
-D	1628.3	To draw , I guess .	look and usability
-A	1628.46	No it's .	look and usability
-D	1631.72	Oh .	look and usability
-D	1632.33	What's this ?	look and usability
-A	1632.46	Yeah it's text .	look and usability
-D	1634.49	Right .	look and usability
-A	1636.82	N no you have to exit .	look and usability
-D	1637.0	Hm .	look and usability
-A	1640.59	You could also make line with uh Yeah .	look and usability
-B	1640.73	So that's So that's blue .	look and usability
-D	1642.46	Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1643.16	Two hours further .	look and usability
-D	1646.22	thickness .	look and usability
-D	1647.35	Oh .	look and usability
-D	1651.58	Oh .	look and usability
-D	1651.91	Wh why not go for the twenty ?	look and usability
-A	1654.2	Mm .	look and usability
-A	1655.57	Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1655.59	Yeah .	look and usability
-B	1656.19	Mm .	look and usability
-D	1657.39	That's what I call painting .	look and usability
-A	1657.46	Y Yeah and then on top of that .	look and usability
-D	1659.16	So that's that's a dark blue basic colour I guess .	look and usability
-B	1661.24	Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1662.57	It's pretty nice .	look and usability
-D	1664.56	And then uh Oh Yeah with some some yellow banana Like .	look and usability
-A	1668.08	Some yellow .	look and usability
-A	1670.86	Banana colour .	look and usability
-C	1672.38	And how about some uh some flashing standby lights ?	look and usability
-C	1675.98	Like you have on the Samsung , well I don't like to call brands phones , the you know that 'cause I remember from one of our first meetings that uh people lose their uh remote controls often .	look and usability
-D	1687.48	Yeah ?	look and usability
-C	1688.33	So it not not only in in the colours of the LEDs , that we want something to keep it visible at all times , or Um Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1699.43	How do you mean ?	look and usability
-A	1701.96	Yeah if you if flashing colour so you can't lose it , basically .	look and usability
-D	1702.17	Some some Yeah an orange .	look and usability
-B	1702.57	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1705.59	Exactly .	look and usability
-A	1706.94	Well I think it's a bit too much but Yeah .	look and usability
-B	1707.22	Maybe a Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1709.32	Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1711.19	Well alright well this is more like purple I guess , but it's should be more real dark blue , so the contrast with the with the fruit objects is uh pretty high .	look and usability
-A	1715.11	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1721.93	Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1723.08	So uh yeah .	look and usability
-D	1723.99	That would be a nice uh nice device I guess .	look and usability
-B	1726.59	And which which colour should uh should I give the the display ?	look and usability
-B	1729.63	Uh Or Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1731.32	Who ?	look and usability
-D	1732.77	I mean , the the colour of the background of the display ?	look and usability
-B	1734.97	Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1735.22	Ah well I don't guess it s has to be a sixty uh sixty six five thousand uh colour , so yeah too expensive .	look and usability
-A	1737.75	And then you can use yellow or semething .	look and usability
-A	1742.0	Why not ?	look and usability
-A	1744.52	Aye .	look and usability
-D	1744.55	So just just a a blue blue backlight or something like that .	look and usability
-B	1744.86	Yeah .	look and usability
-B	1747.34	Mm .	look and usability
-B	1748.29	Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1749.41	Green is too old-fashioned .	look and usability
-D	1751.14	But blue , blue's okay .	look and usability
-C	1752.56	As long as you loo use uh high contrast between the the background and the foreground colour .	look and usability
-D	1753.25	J White backlight , and dark .	look and usability
-B	1758.36	Yeah maybe a maybe a white a white backlight ?	look and usability
-C	1758.83	So that people with uh with And also for people who are a bit colourblind .	look and usability
-A	1759.01	Like this .	look and usability
-B	1764.24	Dark uh letters , yeah .	look and usability
-D	1765.72	Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1766.97	Whatever which is visible .	look and usability
-B	1768.6	Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1768.81	I know you sh you should test it under uh under a light conditions .	look and usability
-D	1773.18	I mean it's hard to tell uh I dunno .	look and usability
-B	1773.73	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1776.53	Colourblind yeah .	look and usability
-D	1777.94	Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1778.69	True .	look and usability
-A	1778.7	No so that's mostly red and green I believe .	look and usability
-D	1781.4	Which which uh colour should the buttons be ?	look and usability
-B	1785.52	That's adjustable .	look and usability
-A	1787.75	Woah .	look and usability
-D	1789.12	Why adjustable ?	look and usability
-A	1789.21	All all buttons ?	look and usability
-B	1790.55	Yeah ?	look and usability
-B	1791.49	Or not .	look and usability
-A	1791.51	Okay .	look and usability
-D	1791.51	No uh But maybe I mean they have to they have to have some colour right ?	look and usability
-B	1793.73	That's how we are going to make it uh more trendy .	look and usability
-B	1797.42	Or is it uh too expensive ?	look and usability
-A	1800.4	It's difficult .	look and usability
-D	1803.01	And if the background is very dark blue Yeah ?	look and usability
-A	1804.38	Blue .	look and usability
-A	1805.98	Maybe green .	look and usability
-C	1806.96	But don't we wanna make the background the the bright colo colours ?	look and usability
-C	1810.93	So th the total of the thing is very bright ?	look and usability
-A	1811.71	Yeah you can Mm-hmm flashy .	look and usability
-C	1813.84	Like the pictures I showed you guys .	look and usability
-C	1815.49	Those things were all like like bright red , bright red , flashy .	look and usability
-D	1820.24	So more like Doesn't work very well .	look and usability
-A	1823.21	Mm bzz .	look and usability
-D	1827.08	Uh .	look and usability
-D	1827.84	More like this colour .	look and usability
-C	1829.44	Yeah something like that , something that stands out more .	look and usability
-D	1831.03	And then then yellow and orange and red objects on it or something .	look and usability
-B	1835.2	Mm .	look and usability
-C	1836.11	Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1836.5	But then then again , which colour should the buttons be ?	look and usability
-D	1840.91	The the press buttons .	look and usability
-D	1842.39	Should they be white or black or Uh Yeah but it's pretty fresh , on the other side .	look and usability
-A	1844.79	Red maybe .	look and usability
-B	1845.7	And it it looks quite cheap , that colour I think .	look and usability
-A	1846.92	Black .	look and usability
-B	1848.6	It's it's not Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1849.3	The green ?	look and usability
-A	1850.3	Why ?	look and usability
-B	1850.98	I dunno .	look and usability
-A	1852.26	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1853.04	So Ooh .	look and usability
-C	1854.3	It's actually a pretty trendy colour at the moment .	look and usability
-B	1856.19	It's it's trendy okay .	look and usability
-D	1857.12	Yeah .	look and usability
-B	1857.41	But Mm .	look and usability
-D	1858.62	My couch is in that colour .	look and usability
-D	1862.98	Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1864.88	Well it works pretty well .	look and usability
-B	1865.03	Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1868.5	And then time was up .	look and usability
-A	1871.32	Uh not yet .	look and usability
-D	1872.49	Uh .	look and usability
-C	1873.69	Do you get a pop-up if we Alright .	look and usability
-A	1874.72	Yeah within five minutes yeah .	look and usability
-D	1877.09	That you have five minutes left or So something like this .	look and usability
-A	1877.93	Y left yeah left and then uh I have to kick you out .	look and usability
-B	1882.43	Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1882.85	That should be pretty nice colour .	look and usability
-D	1884.53	But maybe the buttons , all buttons in red is maybe a bad contrast for colourblind people .	look and usability
-A	1888.42	Yeah yeah .	look and usability
-C	1889.98	No that's actu Red and green are actually the b the easiest to discriminate .	look and usability
-D	1890.03	Because the of the green .	look and usability
-B	1890.76	But the but the buttons have their own LEDs or not ?	look and usability
-D	1894.13	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1894.33	They have LEDs but they have a colour .	look and usability
-C	1898.88	Even for colourblind .	look and usability
-D	1899.76	Yeah ?	look and usability
-C	1900.32	They will see one of each as grey .	look and usability
-D	1903.21	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1903.58	But if you use uh green on blue , those kind of colours will look the same .	look and usability
-B	1909.33	Okay .	look and usability
-D	1909.64	Okay .	look and usability
-C	1911.35	I think .	look and usability
-D	1911.74	So red buttons are okay ?	look and usability
-C	1913.59	I think so .	look and usability
-B	1914.54	Okay .	look and usability
-B	1914.78	That that's a default uh setting .	look and usability
-A	1914.8	You can make them red .	look and usability
-B	1917.07	The the red buttons .	look and usability
-A	1918.56	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1919.15	But I think you need to keep in mind that the LEDs are just extra light .	look and usability
-D	1928.52	How do you mean ?	look and usability
-D	1929.49	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1929.91	Uh they they don't determine the colour that much , I think .	look and usability
-B	1932.61	Okay .	look and usability
-B	1933.09	Yeah I I was think about a red uh red LEDs and blue LEDs and Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1937.79	'Cause you have to print on them you have a background .	look and usability
-D	1937.85	No that's that's too busy I guess .	look and usability
-A	1941.35	Each number is transparent .	look and usability
-B	1943.37	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1944.31	Uh partly but you have to print on the number .	look and usability
-A	1947.35	Or the the sign .	look and usability
-B	1947.95	Okay .	look and usability
-A	1948.95	So you can't change the colour so Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1950.56	You better bet better better keep the LED and the button itself in the same colour I guess .	look and usability
-B	1955.96	Okay .	look and usability
-D	1957.33	So just an extra bit of light and attention .	look and usability
-A	1959.28	Bit of light .	look and usability
-C	1959.71	You can what we should do I think is is make kind of a see-through plastic button , with uh one coloured LED behind it .	look and usability
-A	1961.05	Bit of feedback .	look and usability
-B	1965.72	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1965.74	Yeah .	look and usability
-A	1968.11	Yeah .	look and usability
-D	1968.12	Yeah .	look and usability
-C	1968.82	So that the whole button will shine as the colour the And if you think about easy to use buttons , we have to , well we have to make it the shape so that it's easy to hold f for both hands , but also that you can reach the buttons with your thumb , if you hold the machine .	look and usability
-A	1972.05	Mm-hmm .	look and usability
-A	1988.4	Mm-hmm .	discussion
-D	1989.47	Yeah .	discussion
-A	1990.03	Okay with Uh Don't mean to discourage you but uh basically you two are going to work on the smartboard .	closing
-A	2002.62	Next thirty minutes to design something so And the You will do the evaluation .	closing
-C	2004.28	Ah , right .	closing
-D	2005.41	Alright .	closing
-D	2011.08	Of the product ?	closing
-A	2011.92	Yeah .	closing
-D	2012.16	Which we don't have yet .	closing
-A	2013.31	Yeah uh about Yeah I don't know .	closing
-D	2015.63	So wh how should I do that ?	closing
-D	2019.12	Oh okay .	closing
-A	2019.14	You probably get a mail .	closing
-D	2020.6	Or you you or you send it to me .	closing
-D	2024.8	Or just because you are going to design it on this board right ?	closing
-A	2026.47	Yeah .	closing
-A	2027.04	Once they are finished .	closing
-A	2028.28	Yeah .	closing
-A	2029.98	Yeah but maybe you can do the evaluation you don't have to evaluate yet but you can make a procedure which to follow .	closing
-D	2036.34	Yeah .	closing
-A	2036.6	I don't know .	closing
-D	2036.93	I I probably get instruction on that , how to do that , so I make another presentation I guess .	closing
-A	2038.62	Yeah .	closing
-A	2041.22	Yeah .	closing
-D	2041.56	I kn I know what's gonna happen in in yeah so I've a basic idea .	closing
-A	2044.21	About .	closing
-A	2044.71	Yeah .	closing
-A	2045.64	You have the basic idea .	closing
-A	2047.97	And you two uh are going to do this .	closing
-B	2051.09	Yeah .	closing
-C	2051.17	So we're gonna work here ?	closing
-A	2051.36	Look-and-feel and Yeah .	closing
-C	2052.78	On this sketchboard ?	closing
-D	2053.9	Yeah .	closing
-A	2054.68	Good luck .	closing
-C	2054.82	Alright .	closing
-C	2055.68	Thanks .	closing
-D	2057.17	Yeah .	closing
-D	2059.16	Alright so that's uh Yeah .	closing
-A	2059.94	So I uh make new page and uh be creative .	closing
-C	2065.57	Alright .	closing
-B	2065.73	But we have to do it at this moment , after th this meeting ?	closing
-A	2067.76	Yeah you have uh thirty minutes .	closing
-C	2069.99	Thirty minutes .	closing
-B	2071.6	Okay .	closing
-A	2072.46	Then we have to uh see something which we can uh show to the management .	closing
-D	2075.25	Yeah .	closing
-B	2075.63	Yeah .	closing
-C	2075.9	Alright .	closing
-B	2076.93	Ah so this is basically the what what we are thinking about ?	closing
-C	2080.92	Yeah .	closing
-C	2081.78	Shall we uh make a new uh Yeah , I just make a new one .	closing
-A	2081.89	I would yeah .	closing
-B	2083.72	Yeah l let's just uh delete all these uh or Oh , next .	closing
-A	2084.05	Yeah .	closing
-D	2084.28	Yeah .	closing
-A	2085.79	Next .	closing
-D	2090.56	Yeah .	closing
-C	2091.52	Alright .	closing
-A	2091.78	Oh and save this uh board .	closing
-C	2094.93	Huh ?	closing
-A	2095.41	Just save it .	closing
-C	2095.61	Yeah I'll just I'll just keep it there .	closing
-A	2097.74	Yeah okay but just press save and uh It'll be fine .	closing
-C	2100.05	Yeah .	closing
-D	2101.86	On the left .	closing
-D	2103.2	S so , yeah .	closing
-C	2107.7	Uh sorry .	closing
-A	2108.64	You can also include clip-art .	closing
-C	2111.1	Okay .	closing
-D	2111.97	Yeah .	closing
-C	2112.16	Current colour ?	closing
-A	2112.44	So if you'll rather draw in paint or something then look .	discussion closing
-C	2115.54	So um Shall we make some outline sketches of the basic shape first ?	discussion closing
-B	2117.29	Okay .	closing
-B	2118.2	Uh Yeah .	discussion closing
-C	2125.3	Because I I Yeah 'cause I have to uh focus on the on the basic look-and-feel design .	discussion
-B	2125.38	And then after that we can make the user uh inter interface .	discussion
-D	2130.75	This ?	discussion
-A	2131.3	Yeah .	discussion
-B	2132.15	Yeah .	discussion
-C	2132.2	So how it's gonna look .	discussion
-C	2133.79	And you have to think uh how we're gonna put the screen in it and those kind of things .	discussion
-D	2134.68	Uh pretty accurate .	discussion
-C	2137.87	So if I'm drawing and you think okay I'm not gonna be able to put a screen in there , you have to correct .	discussion
-D	2140.86	Oh we skip this I guess .	discussion
-D	2142.08	Sound button press .	discussion
-B	2143.37	Yep .	discussion
-C	2144.02	Uh do you mind if I draw in black then ?	discussion
-A	2144.42	Yeah .	discussion
-A	2145.15	You can also include it .	discussion
-A	2146.12	It's not much work .	discussion
-C	2146.43	For normal sketches .	discussion
-D	2147.42	Light only button user ca user interaction .	discussion
-B	2147.85	Oh no it's it's okay .	discussion
-C	2152.31	so we kind of want the girlish figure .	discussion
-D	2153.43	Yeah .	discussion
-A	2153.74	That's included .	discussion
-A	2154.81	Yeah okay .	discussion
-D	2154.82	Yeah .	discussion
-D	2156.07	So the pl the plastic plastic buttons also help uh because of um they are only lit during interaction .	discussion
-C	2162.49	I'm not so good at drawing .	discussion
-D	2164.18	So Well it's a good thing that the buttons aren't um , well that they are plastic , because then you can light up the light on when when they are usable .	discussion
-C	2165.28	Excuse me ?	discussion
-B	2174.39	Yeah .	discussion
-B	2174.78	Yeah .	discussion
-C	2177.11	No uh uh .	discussion
-D	2179.59	Maybe you should draw it very large like this .	discussion
-B	2182.05	Yeah but this part isn't uh functioning properly .	discussion
-A	2182.63	Yeah .	discussion
-A	2184.37	Sensitive .	discussion
-D	2184.6	Oh right .	discussion
-C	2186.87	How do we uh uh or insert text ?	discussion
-D	2188.18	Erase ?	discussion
-A	2194.51	I dunno .	discussion
-A	2194.9	Maybe just start typing .	discussion
-B	2200.04	It's a bit uh large .	discussion
-C	2201.97	Oh that's a bit big .	discussion
-C	2202.98	Yeah .	discussion
-A	2209.0	You also do the other sides .	discussion
-A	2210.87	Not only on the front si uh the top side but also the the side view .	discussion
-C	2212.37	Yeah .	discussion
-C	2212.68	Ex exactly .	discussion
-B	2215.54	L let's make first the the the all the views .	discussion
-C	2215.56	Uh Uh I thought for the side view , that the w the basic section would be rather uh a bit thicker than the middle , where you're holding it with your 'cause your fingers have to fit underneath and Exactly but the uh but the upper side has to be a bit more like that I think .	discussion
-A	2217.2	Uh .	discussion
-B	2218.09	The the front view , side view and the back view .	discussion
-A	2224.8	Jesus .	discussion
-A	2225.49	What do I write down ?	discussion
-D	2226.64	Yeah .	discussion
-A	2228.84	Why can't I work here ?	discussion
-A	2229.8	This is much easier .	discussion
-D	2231.22	Much easier , yeah .	discussion
-B	2231.52	Yeah .	discussion
-A	2232.67	Yeah .	discussion
-B	2233.68	The middle has to be very small so you can have it in your hand .	discussion
-A	2234.46	Mm .	discussion
-D	2235.27	I don't see a sign that the meeting is over yet but Yeah .	discussion
-A	2237.77	No so I just work here a few minutes .	discussion
-B	2246.42	Yeah the display , we yeah we can put a display .	discussion
-C	2246.54	Uh don't you think ?	discussion
-C	2248.1	So the display we will put in here , the basic uh functions in here , where it's most reachable .	discussion
-B	2254.36	Yeah .	discussion
-C	2254.73	The The th Exactly .	discussion
-B	2256.31	The the arrow functions .	discussion
-B	2258.62	Yeah .	discussion
-B	2259.1	Yeah .	discussion
-C	2262.83	Oh .	discussion
-C	2263.51	This is hard .	discussion
-C	2264.72	What do don't have to draw it exactly do we ?	discussion
-B	2267.33	No it's it's uh it's okay .	discussion
-C	2269.28	Wait .	discussion
-C	2269.47	Let me try it one more time .	discussion
-C	2272.79	Maybe I've uh it's easier if I draw it in once .	discussion
-C	2282.29	Okay , of course it will become way more ugly .	discussion
-B	2287.54	You can make it m larger .	discussion
-B	2289.89	Maybe it's easier to to draw uh Yeah that's that's the basic idea .	discussion
-C	2292.25	Yeah .	discussion
-C	2295.21	This'll take forever .	discussion
-C	2298.26	It's fun to work with this pen .	discussion
-C	2300.0	Um so , larger .	discussion
-D	2305.72	Oh .	discussion
-D	2307.52	Wrong one .	discussion
-C	2307.81	And yeah .	discussion
-B	2309.3	Yeah .	discussion
-C	2310.19	So side .	discussion
-A	2315.51	Five minutes left before the meeting ends .	discussion
-C	2317.97	'Kay .	discussion
-C	2318.62	Um other views ?	discussion
-D	2321.18	Alright .	discussion
-B	2322.61	Yeah only if you are going to put buttons on the side of the unit .	discussion
-C	2326.07	Uh Yeah .	discussion
-B	2329.17	That's the question .	discussion
-D	2330.54	But we we I is it if if this is from the side woah .	discussion
-C	2331.4	Let's fill i fill in the buttons later .	discussion
-B	2333.68	Yeah .	discussion
-C	2334.05	So this is gonna be from the uh from yeah yeah .	discussion
-B	2339.79	From the Yeah I'm I'm May maybe it's it's easier to to integrate the the the L_C_D_ screen just into this this bubble .	discussion
-D	2340.14	Steady .	discussion
-C	2340.3	Sorry .	discussion
-D	2341.35	Because there the screen goes up like that right ?	discussion
-C	2345.28	Yeah .	discussion
-D	2345.43	So then it's like this , or that's not convenient because then you have the screen like this and look like the it's better to have it somewhat like this .	discussion
-C	2347.19	Yeah ?	discussion
-D	2355.29	Or does it flip all the way ?	discussion
-C	2356.8	The the idea is that it has to flip up to here .	discussion
-C	2366.1	Okay .	discussion
-B	2366.36	Because it do doesn't have to flip then .	discussion
-B	2370.65	Because we have en enough space for for making a an L_C_D .	discussion
-C	2370.82	Yeah .	discussion
-C	2371.4	Yeah yeah yeah .	discussion
-B	2374.61	Because here But why why do we need uh the flipping uh Okay .	discussion
-D	2374.92	It's better to to have this like this I guess , and then flip it like this .	discussion
-C	2375.66	True .	discussion
-C	2382.78	you can adjust the angle to which it flips .	discussion
-C	2385.11	So it can also from this angle , it can flip all the way up to there .	discussion
-B	2388.38	Yeah .	discussion
-C	2388.39	You can flip it up to there if you want .	discussion
-D	2389.5	Yeah .	discussion
-D	2390.3	So w yeah .	discussion
-D	2391.59	But we still keep the flipping mechanism .	discussion
-C	2394.6	Think so .	discussion
-B	2394.61	Yeah .	discussion
-A	2395.06	Yeah we keep the flip ?	discussion
-A	2397.28	Keep the flip live .	discussion
-C	2397.53	Yeah because I think it will feel weird if you would make this smaller and this bigger or something that I dunno .	discussion
-B	2404.13	Yeah .	discussion
-B	2406.82	Uh the the shape is okay but yeah ?	discussion
-B	2410.69	I don't see the the yeah why why we should use the the flipping uh mechanism .	discussion
-D	2415.15	Yeah .	discussion
-C	2415.58	I thought it would be cool .	discussion
-B	2415.7	Because we Okay yeah .	discussion
-B	2418.24	It's it's for for for more trendy uh Because we have enough space .	discussion
-D	2418.95	Yeah but maybe Yeah but maybe we we should then Yeah there the middle Sh sh shouldn't we integrate it ?	discussion
-B	2424.09	H here we got uh the basic functions , the the arrow uh yeah button .	discussion
-B	2431.32	Yeah and then h we sh mm .	discussion
-D	2431.67	And then like i oh th doh .	discussion
-D	2438.53	Come on .	discussion
-D	2439.94	So this is the shape .	discussion
-D	2442.02	Oh .	discussion
-D	2442.7	It hasn't Okay but the screen is a bit lower because if it falls on the other side , it doesn't fall on the screen .	discussion
-C	2445.42	It doesn't aim so well .	discussion
-B	2450.57	Yeah , then it's No flipping or you wanted the flipping so But if you if you If you drop it it it just breaks .	discussion
-D	2453.19	So there's a layer of rubber on the side .	discussion
-C	2455.25	Yeah yeah yeah .	discussion
-C	2456.03	Definitely .	discussion
-D	2456.7	So no flipping but just no .	discussion
-A	2459.38	No flipping ?	discussion
-C	2462.36	Yeah I guess but uh I mean most votes count right ?	discussion
-B	2468.24	And it has to be very strong because of the .	discussion
-B	2470.6	Yeah kind of And it's also for the for the children , it's yeah for people not sixteen years .	discussion
-D	2470.98	Throwing and the kinetics .	discussion
-A	2471.0	It's shaking .	discussion
-C	2471.4	Yeah .	discussion
-D	2472.26	Oh .	discussion
-D	2472.9	We better make we better make it like this .	discussion
-C	2472.92	Yeah true true .	discussion
-C	2475.13	Yeah .	discussion
-D	2475.31	Eventually .	discussion
-A	2475.58	Yeah just light on top .	discussion
-C	2475.86	Yeah if you if you're going for the kinetics Yeah .	discussion closing
-D	2477.5	Yeah .	discussion
-A	2479.5	Safer .	discussion
-A	2480.96	Mm .	discussion
-D	2481.35	Uh they are responsible enough to have a mobile phone , so also to to deal with their uh remote uh control .	discussion
-B	2481.72	But there are more Yeah okay .	discussion
-A	2481.81	Yeah okay that the target group .	discussion
-B	2485.33	That's true .	discussion
-D	2488.25	Yes .	discussion
-B	2488.43	Okay .	discussion
-B	2489.88	Yeah ?	discussion
-A	2490.55	Well .	closing
-C	2491.25	I'm just thinking totally different designs also .	closing
-A	2491.58	I just uh ended the meeting .	closing
-A	2493.37	You two go design .	closing
-B	2494.6	Okay wi Yeah .	closing
-C	2494.82	Remember that the weird pocketphone thingy which looked like kind of a Gameboy .	closing
-A	2497.03	Oh .	closing
-A	2497.46	By the way .	closing
-A	2498.33	Um I uh thought up a name for our product .	closing
-C	2499.81	Maybe we should try something like that .	closing
-C	2501.4	But yeah .	closing
-D	2504.45	Yeah ?	closing
-C	2504.57	Oh right .	closing
-A	2504.77	Yeah .	closing
-A	2505.74	It's called uh the Real Remote .	closing
-D	2508.1	Ooh .	closing
-C	2509.03	Alright .	closing
-A	2509.59	With a copyright sign after Real .	closing
-D	2511.52	Yeah .	closing
-B	2513.19	The Real Remote .	closing
-D	2513.33	Alright .	closing
-C	2514.43	Yeah .	closing
-C	2515.1	I like it .	closing
-C	2517.36	Okay .	closing
-A	2517.47	So maybe you can include that somewhere .	closing
-D	2517.53	Good .	closing
-C	2517.76	This can go .	closing
-D	2519.43	Yeah .	closing
-D	2519.9	We should work in our own room right ?	closing
-D	2521.54	Or not ?	closing
-A	2521.63	Yeah .	closing
-C	2521.65	Oh yeah we have to f uh include that in our design as well .	closing
-A	2524.19	I don't see any power cables here so 'Kay .	closing
-C	2526.17	Let's see .	closing
-D	2526.46	Yeah .	closing
-D	2528.03	Yes .	closing
-C	2528.23	What the hell's that ?	closing
-B	2530.19	I think uh it's the sensors .	closing
-B	2532.63	Okay .	closing
-C	2532.67	Uh Yeah .	discussion closing
-A	2533.56	Good luck .	closing
-B	2534.44	Yep .	closing
-B	2536.54	Okay that's the side .	discussion
-B	2538.9	Ah it's it's okay .	discussion
-B	2540.45	But do we want uh options on the on the side with the with the buttons ?	discussion
-B	2547.46	Or just leave it ?	discussion
-C	2548.17	I think we do .	discussion
-B	2549.0	Uh could make an uh a volume button uh scroll , volume button .	discussion
-C	2554.14	Yeah or j or also scrolling for the m yeah .	discussion
-B	2557.06	For menu .	discussion
-C	2558.28	Yeah ?	discussion
-B	2558.34	Or Yeah .	discussion
-C	2560.04	I dunno .	discussion
-C	2560.52	We w kind of wanted to stick with the Yeah I'm just thinking , if we i we wanna make something different right ?	discussion
-B	2563.27	No , yeah .	discussion
-C	2570.57	So the with the scroll is is more futuristic than the standard arrow buttons .	discussion
-B	2577.16	Yeah .	discussion
-C	2578.68	I think .	discussion
-B	2580.13	Mm .	discussion