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Topic: Dwayne's thread (Read 9067 times)

Well as much as I would Love to visit London I am one of the many non fortunate ones that have a low income.There are many friends that I would love to visit there.After the mistakes of last years trip that I could not afford to go through it again mentally are physically.I will be the voice of many that won,t saw anything because they think it is hopeless to do so.I did not hold my tongue before and not about to now.The AM Gathering is not for everyone only the select few who have money to burn.I said something last year and now have to manually sign in every time.I may have AIDS but I am by far not stupid.You want to know what a crock of a line from those who responded oh theres always next year.I said it once politely all the so called friends that I supposed made not one responded because they were scared to rock the Boat.Since I stop writing I had only 2 contacted me to see if I was doing alright.I say it now in a not so polite way BULLSHIT and don,t send a message saying there is no cause for it.One last year I was supposed to go to Boston they said it was my fault that I bought my Bus ticket to late I was told Quote we might be able to refund your ticket since it was Non refundable.Bullshit I sent the copy of the bus ticket an imagine that heard Nothing.Two I could have been brought to New Orleans to get the Amtrak Train not my fault they didn,t make reservations when I said I was going.If y,all don,t like what I have to say well tough shit.Because i am going to be writting this plus more on the WWW.Friends like these who in the Hell needs Enemy,s !!!

Well as much as I would Love to visit London I am one of the many non fortunate ones that have a low income.There are many friends that I would love to visit there.After the mistakes of last years trip that I could not afford to go through it again mentally are physically.I will be the voice of many that won,t saw anything because they think it is hopeless to do so.I did not hold my tongue before and not about to now.The AM Gathering is not for everyone only the select few who have money to burn.I said something last year and now have to manually sign in every time.I may have AIDS but I am by far not stupid.You want to know what a crock of a line from those who responded oh theres always next year.I said it once politely all the so called friends that I supposed made not one responded because they were scared to rock the Boat.Since I stop writing I had only 2 contacted me to see if I was doing alright.I say it now in a not so polite way BULLSHIT and don,t send a message saying there is no cause for it.One last year I was supposed to go to Boston they said it was my fault that I bought my Bus ticket to late I was told Quote we might be able to refund your ticket since it was Non refundable.Bullshit I sent the copy of the bus ticket an imagine that heard Nothing.Two I could have been brought to New Orleans to get the Amtrak Train not my fault they didn,t make reservations when I said I was going.If y,all don,t like what I have to say well tough shit.Because i am going to be writting this plus more on the WWW.Friends like these who in the Hell needs Enemy,s !!!

The past is the past. As of now, you can get an airline ticket from New Orleans to Las Vegas for $160 on South West. The hotel should be less than $200 (cheaper if you can find a roomie). I don't know that else anybody can (or will) say. I'll offer up one bit of unsolicited advice, but rolling around in what caused you great distress last year is NOT helping you. I'm sorry for what happened, as I'm sure most of us are. I can assure you my hubby and I don't have money to burn, but we're able to sacrifice, save, do side jobs, etc to make attending reality..

The AM Gathering is not for everyone only the select few who have money to burn.

- I take high offense to this Dwayn, your statement is not true and you know it. The gatherings are not restricted to only the Eilte of the Forums. I would venture to say that a sizable number of the people who attended Boston were on a fixed income and did not have "money to burn", including me. This thread is meant to explain to those who dont know, what AMG is about. In my opinion you need to keep this garbage out of this thread and start your own thread to bash AMG.

One last year I was supposed to go to Boston they said it was my fault that I bought my Bus ticket to late I was told Quote we might be able to refund your ticket since it was Non refundable.Bullshit I sent the copy of the bus ticket an imagine that heard Nothing.Two I could have been brought to New Orleans to get the Amtrak Train not my fault they didn,t make reservations when I said I was going.If y,all don,t like what I have to say well tough shit.Because i am going to be writting this plus more on the WWW.Friends like these who in the Hell needs Enemy,s !!!

Dwayn it's clear you are referring to the Grants Committe here. I take issue with the fact that you choose to continue, some 7-8 months later, to take swipes at a volunteer committee AND THE PEOPLE THAT FUND IT BY OPENING THEIR HEARTS AND WALLETS to help offset the expense of attending to those that need it. Dwayn, I think it's time to let it go and look forward.

Where were you when we had extensive discussions and voting on this years location? New Orleans was in the mix and perhaps if you had participated in the process and expressed your desire (and supporting arguments that may have swayed others to vote N.O.) then it's possible things may have turned out differently. If you decided to not participate in that process then why are you slinging this rubbish here and now?

If you wish to attend the Official gathering in London this year, and IF they are able to get together a Grants Committee ( which I intend to donate too even though I cannot go to London) and IF they are able to garner enough donations then it might be possible for you and others to attend. Yes, there are alot of "IF's" but they do their best to help if they can, and I thank them for that.

I'm not going to handle you with kid gloves and if this offends you or other members so be it, and if for some reason my comments elicit a warning from the mods, I will take it.

Dwayne, I'm on a fixed income myself and when I went to AMG- Mexico City in 2008 the Grants Committee was easy to deal with and very organized, but they don't book things for people. They only reimburse, so in fact it was my responsibility to be organized on my end, nobody else.

I don't know the details of what happened with you and AMG, though I read them vaguely when it happened, but the fact that this isn't resolved in your mind 8 months later is a bit odd.

I removed your hijack of the "What is AMG" thread and placed it and the replies you received in their own thread. As Willy said, the other thread was supposed to be a place where people who are new to the site and AMGs could find out what they are.

If you have further complaints about the AMG, please state them in this thread instead of hijacking other AMG threads. Thank you for your cooperation.

And by the way, I've never been able to afford an AMG either, so don't begrudge one being in my backyard. I probably won't be able to afford the 2011 AMG.

"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

Ok Will how many that were supposed to go with grant assistance went,You.As for letting go of the past I used to do that a lot.If you take offence have one word for you. PITY.I am 47 years old I will never let people tell me what to say think are do.I was in the military to fight for my rights an freedoms.It would take a person to hijack a thread but right is right wrong is wrong if you don,t like what I say don,t read it as for Bashing Still BULSHITAnd farther more where were you when all this was going on silent so don,t tell me where was I !!!KMMFAYDB

Ok Will how many that were supposed to go with grant assistance went,You.As for letting go of the past I used to do that a lot.If you take offence have one word for you. PITY.I am 47 years old I will never let people tell me what to say think are do.I was in the military to fight for my rights an freedoms.It would take a person to hijack a thread but right is right wrong is wrong if you don,t like what I say don,t read it as for Bashing Still BULSHITAnd farther more where were you when all this was going on silent so don,t tell me where was I !!!KMMFAYDB

I am not going to get into an endless argument with you.

Anne has moved this thread out of the "What is AMG?" thread. Which in my opinion has solved the issue. You can continue to bash AMG all you wish in this thread, but I will be no part of it.

You contacted me last night to ask if there was financial assistance for the Las Vegas gathering. I advised you since the Las Vegas gathering was not the official AMG, there has been no formation of a GC for this particular gathering.

These events are planned by persons who donate their own time and energy. Everyone does their best to keep things in alignment year after year. As dynamic as these forums and our personal lives are, it's not always possible.

If you're upset that there is no GC setup for the gatherings this year, then perhaps you could have suggested one be formed and offer your own help with the planning rather than expect everyone else to do it for you.

When you said something Will you put your two cents in and say its settled.Who the hell made you GOD and left you in charge.Dennis this has nothing to do with what I asked you I busted my ass last year to go I am not going to do it again he who forgets history is doomed to repeat it.The issue from last year then you add all I did to make it happen and for what??? Not a damn thing !!! Yes I am very opinionated and will be till I die and like I said before No One Will Tell Me What To Do Or Say.The Apology last year left a bad taste in my mouth and spirit that is why I stopped posting an was not there for your Vote.I was crushed by that trip and the things that happened after not the trip and it just went on and on.2009 was the worse year by far compounding problems I already deal with.So yes I have a very short temper when I feel wronged.You can take this any way you like.

No I guess not.To Miss Philicia it was not my responsibility to pay for the Amtrak Ticket and Room because I sent messeges asking that they said it was all taking care of just show up at the Amtrak Station in New Orleans at 7am August 3rd.So before you chime in make sure you know what is going on.

To Miss Philicia it was not my responsibility to pay for the Amtrak Ticket and Room because I sent messeges asking that they said it was all taking care of just show up at the Amtrak Station in New Orleans at 7am August 3rd.So before you chime in make sure you know what is going on.

Sorry if I made a mistake, I was just only trying to relate how the Grant Committee functioned when I got a grant. I have no way of knowing if it's the same for everyone else because the committee operates in strict secrecy.

If I offended you greatly by participating in the thread feel free to rant about me on your facebook wall.

....I said something last year and now have to manually sign in every time.....

Dwayne

I was sorry things did not work out for you last year. Reading it a couple of weeks after it happened it did seem like a frustration for both you and the grants committee. I'm afraid I have no suggestions for how to change AMG and how it runs but I did notice the above statement in your post and thought perhaps I could help with that.

Every so often they go through a major software upgrade on the forums and everyone loses all their login settings. When you log back in the default setting is that you have to sign in each time. But there is an option to check a box on the login screen that says "Always stay logged in". If you check that box you might be able to skip the sign on in the future.

Talk about selfish, the grants committee bent over back wards to help you out last year..you were told what to do, you left it too late...you stuffed up, get over it and stop slagging those who tried to help you.

To late for what bent over backwards you got to be Shitting I told them I would be there at the Amtrak Station at 7 am when I was supposed to who was to late.Whether I went by Bus are Car didn,t make a bit of difference.I told them when I first talk with I had a way to get there and a place to stay.And if that fell through plan B was to take the Bus late the night before.So how didn,t make a reservation not me.Pity Annibc they did nothing at all but sent useless emails.You can stuff it!!!

To late for what bent over backwards you got to be Shitting I told them I would be there at the Amtrak Station at 7 am when I was supposed to who was to late.Whether I went by Bus are Car didn,t make a bit of difference.I told them when I first talk with I had a way to get there and a place to stay.And if that fell through plan B was to take the Bus late the night before.So how didn,t make a reservation not me.Pity Annibc they did nothing at all but sent useless emails.You can stuff it!!!

You need to calm down and realize that the people here were attempting to >Help< you. This did not work out. While unfortunate that doesn't give you an excuse to trample over other people in your attempt to climb up on the cross.

I have done all that never had a problem with it till the Unfortunate Blow Up on my part.

the site software obviously isn't singling just you out, Scooter. It's just going to take some figuring out. It's like that sometimes when my computer clients have issues - you just have to keep digging to figure out the problem and the fix. Do you go to sites like http://mail.yahoo.com and do those sites remember your login information? Are you using Internet Explorer? When you go to fill-in the blank username/password boxes, does it remember you once you start typing your username?

If you want you can PM me and we'll try to work this out, or we can go back to the thread you normally post in, so you're complaints can be dealt with here. I had been working on writing you a repsonse in your other thread to suggest that you get out of that thread some and into some other threads, to make friends, if you wanted more people to chat with you; but this wasn't quite what I had in mind.

Like Philly, I didn't pay much attention to what happened with you and the previous AMG, so I can't really comment on that. However, Dwayne, I would suggest that you're probably stressing out a bit much and investing too much energy here into a problem that is now months in the past. Sometimes, like some of the run-ins that I've had with people in these forums, you have to put that sort of stuff in the past, learn a tough lesson and try not to ever get burned that way again.

I hope that you can put some perspective on this issue, especially since it happened in such a bad year for you. This isn't like not being invited to your other brother's wedding or almost losing your home or even finding out about your brother. This AMG trip was just a meeting with people that you don't even know, somewhere you've never been, and you lost some money and time and got some hopes dashed. Don't let this situation have the power to keep eating away at you.

I hope you can get the satisfaction that you want out of this thread, though I doubt it'll do much more than give you another chance to vent, raise your stress level and unfortuantely might make some people not like you much. I'll be more than willing to help you try to figure out that login problem, if you still want any help, or if you even still care about logging in here anymore.

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leatherman (aka mIkIE)

All the stars are flashing high above the seaand the party is on fire around you and meWe're gonna burn this disco down before the morning comes- Pet Shop Boys chart from 1992-2015Isentress/Prezcobix

Interestingly enough he aplogizes for his behavior and even admits that "It was not meant for me to go to Boston" as he had some fraudulent charges on his CC and would not have a dime to spend in Boston. He seemed at peace with it all:

"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

This is what the GC told you last year....so don't tell me they didn't try and help you, if you couldn't organise yourself in time then you only have yourself to blame..get over it.

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As we mentioned to you, the Committee could not confirm your assistance until you were able to source a bus ticket to New Orleans. Because you did not do so until July, this meant that the amount of assistance we budgeted for you (being based on Amtrack prices in April) was insufficient. It is an unfortunate reality that the closer to the intended travel date, prices for transportation increases.

It was meant for some self righteous people that think they are better than any one else.And Will you also must not be able to read and understand I said yesterday that the apology left a bitter taste in my mouth.As for you Jan could not figure it out KISS MY MOTHER FUCKING ASS YOU DUMB BASTARD.Oh we may be able to refund your ticket yeah right.Stressed on MAY BE they drop it and just forgot it.And Jan You Get Over.I said I would not be able to participate in all of the stuff planned because I had to spend it on my bus tckit it seemed funny to me that as soon as I posted that I would not have much money to spend thats when I was informed the prices went up.I still don,t get it what the Hell has a Bus Ticket have to do with making a reservation.For I say this again you knew I had someone bringing me to the train station.But as Will says gods right hand now move along there is nothing to see. Because your Blind.

Interestingly enough he aplogizes for his behavior and even admits that "It was not meant for me to go to Boston" as he had some fraudulent charges on his CC and would not have a dime to spend in Boston. He seemed at peace with it all:

LOL...that was my thought Cliff....I pretty knew what he was saying, and we were close..I just thougth that responding to him would bring me down to his level, and that's not about to happen...I would much rather talk to you ...

If you insist on carrying on with the personal attacks, I'm afraid you're going to get a seven day time out. And yes, to be clear, this is a serious official warning. One more personal attack or "kiss my ass" and you'll be timed out.

I understand that you feel you've been wronged, but I couldn't possibly comment one way or another as I am not privy to the details on both sides of the problem. However, whatever went on is NO EXCUSE for you to use these forums to launch personal attacks against fellow members.

Please, if you must continue to hash this issue out, take it up privately with those involved - and be warned, using PMs to launch personal attacks will also not be tolerated and will result in your PM privileges being removed.

"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts