I think you have to grant him leave for the first 2 years. Who was to know that WADA would overrule ASADA and ban the players. That was year 1- cobbling together the rag tag army. I actually enjoyed that year very much. Then came ‘the return’. We played reasonably well in patches but still managed many inexplicable losses and got slaughtered in the final. The start of last year was a disaster. We bought in the guns but played like crap. Pretty much the same this year.

One in common thing about last year and this year is the mismanagement of injuries. Joe was but a shadow of his former self.

I think John Worsfold is a coach that wants the players to take charge. However this group of players are shrinking violets when it comes to that. He actually needs to lead this group. So the question in my mind is how much responsibility should the players take for these inexplicable lapses in form and how much is it the head coach?

I think you have to grant him leave for the first 2 years. Who was to know that WADA would overrule ASADA and ban the players. That was year 1- cobbling together the rag tag army. I actually enjoyed that year very much. Then came ‘the return’. We played reasonably well in patches but still managed many inexplicable losses and got slaughtered in the final. The start of last year was a disaster. We bought in the guns but played like crap. Pretty much the same this year.

One in common thing about last year and this year is the mismanagement of injuries. Joe was but a shadow of his former self.

I think John Worsfold is a coach that wants the players to take charge. However this group of players are shrinking violets when it comes to that. He actually needs to lead this group. So the question in my mind is how much responsibility should the players take for these inexplicable lapses in form and how much is it the head coach?

Well said MH Bomber.

That 2016 year was an opportunity to find a player or two. Walla came on the scene. He may never had been given one if not for our horrendous circumstances. Walla was a breath of fresh air that year. While he may currently be displaying some quiet patches, he has been great asset. He will be a fine player for many years.

Parish was given full access into our midfield and came close to winning a rising star award. He’s now showing some excellent form. He’s s big improver this year.

Conor McKenna was given an opportunity too. A lot in here bagged him and wished he went back to Ireland. I stuck by him, asked others to “give him time”, and now he’s a bonafide star.

Mason Redman got his first game in 2016. Look at him now!

McKernan came off the rookie list, and now he’s having an influence in the games he plays.

And some believe our players are going backwards. Like I said, some people just don’t want to open their eyes.

I think you have to grant him leave for the first 2 years. Who was to know that WADA would overrule ASADA and ban the players. That was year 1- cobbling together the rag tag army. I actually enjoyed that year very much. Then came ‘the return’. We played reasonably well in patches but still managed many inexplicable losses and got slaughtered in the final. The start of last year was a disaster. We bought in the guns but played like crap. Pretty much the same this year.

One in common thing about last year and this year is the mismanagement of injuries. Joe was but a shadow of his former self.

I think John Worsfold is a coach that wants the players to take charge. However this group of players are shrinking violets when it comes to that. He actually needs to lead this group. So the question in my mind is how much responsibility should the players take for these inexplicable lapses in form and how much is it the head coach?

You see this is where I have to respectfully disagree....the pro Worsfold lobby always say “you can’t count the first 2 years”. Yet he made the finals in the second year! So that kind of puts to rest the notion that he was struggling with a team that needed kid glove treatment. I would argue his first 2 years were his best for differing reasons. His failure to build on those years demonstrates an inability to move forward with a clear vision and game plan. The damning evidence is that the players he has been provided with and the natural growth of many young talents should have delivered improvement regardless of gameplan. This has simply not happened. Fact.

Windy Hille pointed out an interesting stat in terms of ladder positions over the last decade or so and there is no doubt that Worsfold has been consistent, 2016 aside. Yet it is clear that despite having arguably a far better squad at his disposal than say Hird, Thompson and Knights had, operating under less challenging circumstances (Knights with the Sheedy effect and Hird/Thompson the supplement saga), Worsfold has delivered nothing better than. Richmond like mediocrity. As I have repeatedly said, finishing 9th with 12 wins is no better than finishing rock bottom last. A season wasted. At least finishing last delivers a number one draft pick but guess what, we gave that away with the Shiel Deal in a further attempt to give Johnny a competitive squad.

Anyone who believe Worsfold is the man to take this club to a flag is kidding themselves. We are not going to win the flag this or next year. You can put your house on it. So we will amble into next season pretty much as we are today and if we are lucky, we will produce another 12-10 season, finish ninth and Worsfold will surely end up having his contract expire. So I guess on that basis, we may as well go into hibernation for the remainder of this year and all of next as this club goes through its “Rinse and Repeat” cycle. See you in 2021.

Windy Hille...in court trials, there is a long held rule for prosecuting lawyers....never ask a question that you don’t already know the answer. It can only backfire

Pointing to Sean McKernan as a prime example of player development under Worsfold is not a good play.

Another popular courtroom phrase comes to mind....You want the truth? You can’t handle the truth”

The below 2019 season stats for McKernan makes your argument look about as solid as runny mash potato. (Apologies for the clumped up numbers...it’s a straight copy and past and I can’t be bothered tidying it up....that would require more effort than a Langford chase!!). You get the idea at least. Averaging 10 disposals and less than 1 Goal a game. Fantasy/Supercoach scores of 55 and under.

I think you have to grant him leave for the first 2 years. Who was to know that WADA would overrule ASADA and ban the players. That was year 1- cobbling together the rag tag army. I actually enjoyed that year very much. Then came ‘the return’. We played reasonably well in patches but still managed many inexplicable losses and got slaughtered in the final. The start of last year was a disaster. We bought in the guns but played like crap. Pretty much the same this year.

One in common thing about last year and this year is the mismanagement of injuries. Joe was but a shadow of his former self.

I think John Worsfold is a coach that wants the players to take charge. However this group of players are shrinking violets when it comes to that. He actually needs to lead this group. So the question in my mind is how much responsibility should the players take for these inexplicable lapses in form and how much is it the head coach?

You want the players to take charge?

You have to recruit footballers, not (predominantly) private school athletes if you want that.

Windy Hille...in court trials, there is a long held rule for prosecuting lawyers....never ask a question that you don’t already know the answer. It can only backfire

Pointing to Sean McKernan as a prime example of player development under Worsfold is not a good play.

Another popular courtroom phrase comes to mind....You want the truth? You can’t handle the truth”

The below 2019 season stats for McKernan makes your argument look about as solid as runny mash potato. (Apologies for the clumped up numbers...it’s a straight copy and past and I can’t be bothered tidying it up....that would require more effort than a Langford chase!!). You get the idea at least. Averaging 10 disposals and less than 1 Goal a game. Fantasy/Supercoach scores of 55 and under.

Windy Hille...in court trials, there is a long held rule for prosecuting lawyers....never ask a question that you don’t already know the answer. It can only backfire

Pointing to Sean McKernan as a prime example of player development under Worsfold is not a good play.

Another popular courtroom phrase comes to mind....You want the truth? You can’t handle the truth”

The below 2019 season stats for McKernan makes your argument look about as solid as runny mash potato. (Apologies for the clumped up numbers...it’s a straight copy and past and I can’t be bothered tidying it up....that would require more effort than a Langford chase!!). You get the idea at least. Averaging 10 disposals and less than 1 Goal a game. Fantasy/Supercoach scores of 55 and under.

12 wins and percentage may be enough in a tight season. So 5 more wins with some decent margins may be enough. If this team is good enough, it could win 4 next of the 5. But I wouldn’t count on it. Sydney at the G, North at Marvel, Adelaide away then Gold Cost away followed by Port at Marvel. Other than Adelaide we should be favourites in 4 of those games based on tonight’s result

Windy Hille...in court trials, there is a long held rule for prosecuting lawyers....never ask a question that you don’t already know the answer. It can only backfire

Pointing to Sean McKernan as a prime example of player development under Worsfold is not a good play.

Another popular courtroom phrase comes to mind....You want the truth? You can’t handle the truth”

The below 2019 season stats for McKernan makes your argument look about as solid as runny mash potato. (Apologies for the clumped up numbers...it’s a straight copy and past and I can’t be bothered tidying it up....that would require more effort than a Langford chase!!). You get the idea at least. Averaging 10 disposals and less than 1 Goal a game. Fantasy/Supercoach scores of 55 and under.

12 wins and percentage may be enough in a tight season. So 5 more wins with some decent margins may be enough. If this team is good enough, it could win 4 next of the 5. But I wouldn’t count on it. Sydney at the G, North at Marvel, Adelaide away then Gold Cost away followed by Port at Marvel. Other than Adelaide we should be favourites in 4 of those games based on tonight’s result