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Grayson wrote:In the DCnU the ability to beat up the bad guys is greater than any other ability.

Which is why DC is failing.

"I have my heroes, but no one knows their names"- Sons of the Desert

Strict31 wrote:I'm not sure that combining the nigh-uncontrollable power of LOLtron with the Nacireman is a good idea. Some years from now, when mankind is on the verge of extinction, we'll be able to look back and remember this moment, and say, "DANG."

why does Didio hate his Dick so much? do you suppose all his bluster and overbearingness is overcompensation because a gym teacher taunted him as Dan Dildo? Or because Didiot is an actual word in the Dick-tionary? Or because fans confuse him with Dan Slott? (dildo and slot-one writes well, the other needs backup from keith giffen)

*hey kids! wanna learn how to break into comics? be the editors' boss!

If they wanted a clueless Batgirl for the New52 they would have just brought back Stephanie Brown

Which surprisingly she was more like Barbara in her ongoing and here in the New 52 Barbara is even more fuck-up than Stephanie ever was. It's amazing that she still has the mantle after all those lives that she's failed to save. Because her first action after getting healed: "I'M GONNA BE BATGIRL AGAIN!!!!"

And stupidest choices of the past two years goes to Gordon Barbara Gordon. It amazes me at times the stupidity of this character and the series. Masochists and blind obedient fools the lot of you. Least Cassandra Cain fans were wise to avoid the garbage that was v. 2. How true "Barbara Gordon fans" blindly love this trash makes me think they'd do anything for the character. But then this is the same company that has select "favoritism". ARGH.. glad I don't give any of these jackals a dime of my money.

sdsichero wrote:I especially like and admire Zechs. He's everything I wish I could be!

Zechs wrote:It amazes me at times the stupidity of this character and the series. Masochists and blind obedient fools the lot of you. Least Cassandra Cain fans were wise to avoid the garbage that was v. 2. How true "Barbara Gordon fans" blindly love this trash makes me think they'd do anything for the character. But then this is the same company that has select "favoritism". ARGH.. glad I don't give any of these jackals a dime of my money.

Well, let's have some level of fairness here (DC wouldn't, but that doesn't mean we can't): This isn't QUITE the Babs we're used to. In this universe, love it or loath it, she was a college freshman that was inspired to wear what looked like a wool onesy and a laughingly thin domino-esque mask to fight crime with Batman...for a year or two. Then she decided to shelve the costume and focus on her studies. Then she got shot and was crippled for three years before being healed somehow (they probably haven't figured out the details).

Now, none of us have to like it (and a whole lot of us don't), but this isn't the Barbara that was crippled permanently/indefinitely for a less specific number of years. The old Barbara was crippled in 1988, and in about a year, in 1989, she became Oracle. Meaning that the old Babs was stronger than the new Babs. The former was so dedicated to crime-fighting and helping people, she flipped a middle finger to adversity and worked around her paraplegia.

The latter, however, didn't seem to do anything in that timespan. Her tech skills are far from her previous incarnation. What gives? Did she sulk for all that time? Did she do nothing but research how to get her legs back? Maybe we'll get the answers, but regardless, I think my point stands: DC traded a strong character for a weaker version. And Babs isn't the only one.

Once Dick became Batman, it was clear to me that he should have stayed in that role. He was actually interesting as Batman and has a well-defined and interesting role in the DCU. This is even with Bruce also back as the global Batman.

Since the New 52 and the reversion to Nightwing... who gives a fuck? You may as well kill him. The only time he's been interesting in the last 2 years was that one panel in Batman Inc #8 which referenced his time as Batman with Damian.

There's no point in having him spinning his heels doing nothing, even if his costume is now red instead of blue.

jeremy wrote:Updated, just to point out that Rich at BC added some clarification to the spoilage, saying that Nightwing will not die, but what he goes through may be worse.

-pip pip!

What could worse? Working as Didio's press agent?

"Why are you pointing your screwdrivers like that? They're scientific instruments, not water pistols.""Oh, the pointing again! They're screwdrivers! What are you going to do? Assemble a cabinet at them?""Are you capable of speaking without flapping your hands about?"""Timey" what? "Timey wimey"?"

IvCNuB4 wrote:The Old Doctor is Cat-Scratch ?Well that explains a lot :lol: