Well, f*ck! That makes me really sad. I didn't watch him much as a football player, but I enjoyed seeing him in "Blazing Saddles" and "Victor/Victoria", as well as George Papadopoulos on "Webster". :-(

Bathia_Mapes:Well, f*ck! That makes me really sad. I didn't watch him much as a football player, but I enjoyed seeing him in "Blazing Saddles" and "Victor/Victoria", as well as George Papadopoulos on "Webster". :-(

It is sad. At 77, he's probably not on a transplant list. But no mention of dialysis for this condition?

Damn. He seemed to be a genuinely nice guy, and yes I love Blazing Saddles.

My Dad was fully cohesive when he made the same call when he was diagnosed with renal failure. "It's been a good run." A couple dialysis treatments before the left the hospital for hospice gave the family enough time to gather to say goodbye. It's a pretty gentle way to go out. The brain just sort of fuzzes out from the toxic build up.

Thing was, he was pretty aware up until 36 hours before he died, and things were beginning to shut down (he couldn't use his right hand, then he couldn't read, etc.) and he knew it. Yet he faced it all with such grace and good humor. Even the nurses were impressed.

On January 7, 1963, Karras's ownership in Detroit's Lindell AC Bar became a source of controversy when league officials urged him to sell his financial interests in the place because of reports of gambling and organized crime influence. After first threatening to retire rather than give it up, Karras admitted placing bets on NFL games and was suspended by the league, along with Green Bay Packers' running back Paul Hornung, for one season (1963).

During his exile, Karras returned to pro wrestling, taking on such memorable characters as Dick the Bruiser, but was then reinstated, along with Hornung, on March 16, 1964 by NFL commissioner Pete Rozelle. Upon returning to action in 1964, Karras once refused when an official asked him to call the pregame coin toss. "I'm sorry, sir," Karras replied. "I'm not permitted to gamble."

Polartank13:JosephFinn: Huck And Molly Ziegler: Now I'm feeling bad for Mr. Karras AND the horse.

Kind of interesting to see in that GIF that the guy pulls the reins on the right JUST before Karras would have connected. Some nice horse work there.

Jeez man, at least leave me with the illusion dammit...

Do you still believe in the tooth fairy too? The movies are fake; everybody knows that. I think the point was that it was a particularly well-executed bit of movie magic. If you scrutinize practically any movie stunt, you can usually pick it apart and figure out how it was done, but that doesn't make it any less impressive when you're watching the movie.

Tom McInerney, owner of McInerney's Woodhaven Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram and a friend of Karras' since the 1950s, said Karras' wife, Susan Clark, told him of her husband's failing health in a 15-minute phone call this morning.

Come on down to the showroom and I'll tell you stories of me and Alex growing up together. And you can tell me what I have to do to put you in a car today.

GuidoDelConfuso:Polartank13: JosephFinn: Huck And Molly Ziegler: Now I'm feeling bad for Mr. Karras AND the horse.

Kind of interesting to see in that GIF that the guy pulls the reins on the right JUST before Karras would have connected. Some nice horse work there.

Jeez man, at least leave me with the illusion dammit...

Do you still believe in the tooth fairy too? The movies are fake; everybody knows that. I think the point was that it was a particularly well-executed bit of movie magic. If you scrutinize practically any movie stunt, you can usually pick it apart and figure out how it was done, but that doesn't make it any less impressive when you're watching the movie.

Movies are fake....BAH! Next you're going to tell me that wrasslin' is fake. You're just full of dem stories.

It looks pretty rough, but the horse is trained to fall like that. It is a wicked pull on the bit, though. Hmm, how was it trained.....Now I feel sorry for the horse too.Well, could be worse, every one and every thing needs to earn its keep. I know I've been treated a lot worse and abused as much at most of my jobs.The world is a harsh mistress.

simplicimus:Bathia_Mapes: Well, f*ck! That makes me really sad. I didn't watch him much as a football player, but I enjoyed seeing him in "Blazing Saddles" and "Victor/Victoria", as well as George Papadopoulos on "Webster". :-(

It is sad. At 77, he's probably not on a transplant list. But no mention of dialysis for this condition?

Dialysis is kept in the stone age thanks to government. It's probably best to avoid it if he has other issues. Many choose to die rather than go through 3 day a week dialysis.

Dialysis could be better, but the way government pays for it essentially keeps short daily Hemodialysis out of the market. At least at the last point I was familiar with that business. Perhaps at some point technology will make it cheap it enough that people can just pay for it all out of pocket. The way to do it has already been proven out. The machines are just too expensive and the treatment isn't profitable enough under government rules.