in one neighborhood and they have pickup there it's uh i think once or twice a week
i think they have pickup once or twice a week in that neighborhood
with children in that situation i i guess one knows one's own storly and i know uh in my children's case it was one where uh pretty much up until the older of two was in uh let's see i guess basically starting junior high and the younger was in fifth grade when my wife reentered the work force