"Defining moment in American history, I don't think there's one; you can't say Hiroshima, that's a big one -- I can't think of any one moment I would say is a defining moment.
""アメリカ史上の決定的瞬間” なんてありゃしないね 大事件だったが 広島原爆投下じゃないし どれも決定的瞬間には 思えないね