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하물며 쇼팽으로는...... 피아노계의 구약성경으로 불리는 곡이 바흐의 평균율피아노곡집이고, 신약성경으로 불리는 곡이 베토벤 피아노소나타 전집이 ...
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글번호 _202403260090470874_\|2024-03-26 01:54



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쇼팽

추천1공유

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야한호랑이2024-03-26 01:55IP: 172.226.\*.26맞음

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쎼쎼2024-03-26 01:55IP: 68.199.\*.182아니라고 생각해요

![](https://dimg.donga.com/ugc/WWW/Profile/t/i/k/i/t/a/k/a/2/0/0/9/tikitaka2009@d.png)

tikitaka2024-03-26 02:00IP: 61.74.\*.239쇼팽을 무척 좋아하지만 베바모 급은 택도 없다고 봄

![](https://dimg.donga.com/ugc/WWW/Profile/b/5/8/1/0/9/6/@/@/@/@/@/b581096@@@@@@d.png)

b5810962024-03-26 02:03IP: 61.39.\*.221피아노 한정 쟤들이랑 동급 나머지는 논외죠. 어차피 피아노 곡들만 썼으니...

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할재2024-03-26 02:03IP: 119.198.\*.82좋아하지만 쇼팽이 들어가면 같이 들어갈 사람이 아주 많음

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낚시가자2024-03-26 02:06IP: 24.46.\*.127절대 아님. 브람스, 바그너한테도 못 비빔

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TheJoker2024-03-26 02:07IP: 117.111.\*.8아닙니다..

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mystalvision2024-03-26 02:18IP: 121.125.\*.126피아노곡 한정으로 하면 동급이라 할 수 있을 듯

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긴꼬리벵에2024-03-26 02:19IP: 210.179.\*.138ㄴ

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megrhythm2024-03-26 02:24IP: 160.39.\*.37에이 그건 아님.

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라만2024-03-26 02:25IP: 119.64.\*.148일단 바흐는 넘사벽이고요. 모짜르트도 넘사벽이고요. 베토벤도 넘사벽... 이 세명과 다른 음악가들 차이 많이 나죠

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썬샤인2024-03-26 02:57IP: 73.110.\*.203게인적으로 쇼팽이 넘버원. 가장 많이 들어요

베토벤 모차르트 음악 없어도 저는 별 상관없음

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삼국지2024-03-26 07:16IP: 211.231.\*.23제 마음속은 넘버원

클래식 중에도 쇼팽 피아노곡 제일 많이 듣네요

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slrspdla122024-03-26 07:18IP: 211.234.\*.119피아노곡 한정 비빌 수는 있음, 동급은 절대 아니고.

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럭키크로버2024-03-26 07:24IP: 118.103.\*.13차이코프스키라면?

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노지나원2024-03-26 07:28IP: 223.38.\*.181바흐 모차르트 베토벤에 댈 급은 아님. 그들은 올타임에서 손에 꼽아야죠.

피아노 한정으로는 확실히 시대를 풍미한 탑급이긴 하나...

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노지나원2024-03-26 07:29IP: 223.38.\*.181저도 피아노곡중에서는 쇼팽 곡을 제일 많이 들을정도로 좋아하긴 하지만 그거랑 레벨은 별개.

![](https://dimg.donga.com/ugc/WWW/Profile/m/o/b/a/c/h/@/@/@/@/@/@/mobach@@@@@@@d.png)

모바흐2024-03-26 07:34IP: 175.208.\*.183솔직히 피아노도 저 세명에 못 비벼요

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잠덜깬여우2024-03-26 07:34IP: 211.51.\*.26클래식 애호가로서...베토벤이 작품성이건 음악사적 영향력이건 원탑이고, 그 이외는 기호 차이지요. 인지도는 바흐 모차르트보다 좀 아래지만 조용필 좋아하는 사람 있고 서태지 좋아하는 사람 있는것처럼 나얼을 최고라 치는 사람돞있는거죠. 급을 나누려면 베토벤과 그 이외가 된다고 생각합니다. 나머지는 취향차이

![](https://dimg.donga.com/ugc/WWW/Profile/m/o/b/a/c/h/@/@/@/@/@/@/mobach@@@@@@@d.png)

모바흐2024-03-26 07:35IP: 175.208.\*.183\[리플수정\]음악사적 영향력으로 바흐가 원탑이지 뭔 또 베토벤

음악적으로 바흐 이전과 이후고 음악에 가장 큰 변화를 일으킨 사건은 프랑스 대혁명이고 그렇죠

![](https://dimg.donga.com/ugc/WWW/Profile/z/e/r/o/m/u/s/0/0/@/@/@/zeromus00@@@@d.png)

고전게임2024-03-26 07:43IP: 115.92.\*.161저 세명은 좀

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디오니서스2024-03-26 07:49IP: 121.172.\*.3연주자로는 모 취향따라 톱으로 꼽을 수 있겠지만 음악가로는 못비빔....

![](https://dimg.donga.com/ugc/WWW/Profile/r/a/d/i/a/t/e/1/@/@/@/@/radiate1@@@@@d.png)

하이페츠2024-03-26 07:53IP: 112.159.\*.16사실 모차르트조차도 바흐 베토벤에 비비기에는 조금 손색이 있습니다. 하물며 쇼팽으로는...... 피아노계의 구약성경으로 불리는 곡이 바흐의 평균율피아노곡집이고, 신약성경으로 불리는 곡이 베토벤 피아노소나타 전집이거든요. 이게 딱 클래식 음악계에서의 바흐와 베토벤의 위상과 일치합니다.

![](https://dimg.donga.com/ugc/WWW/Profile/l/b/s/3/2/9/7/@/@/@/@/@/lbs3297@@@@@@d.png)

런너2024-03-26 09:07IP: 211.33.\*.129베토벤은 다 좋은데 가곡 성악 오페라 같은 부분에서 약점이 큽니다. 모짜르트가 오히려 더 완전체가 가깝습니다.

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