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 :Please note in the history section that SkagRiverQueen is claiming to ""cleanse"" the article. Most statements by Skagriverqueen above are her personal opinion and blatantly untrue. On what basis does her claim to know what ""Karel is best know for"" substantiated? What happened to ""Good Faith?"" 
 This is what I wrote, apparently while she was typing the above: 

 In the real world, old news is just that, something to line the bottom of the bird cage with. I have spoken to dozens of people on the internet and not ONE of them remember the Joe the Plumber incident. It is of so little importance, It is not even mentioned in the Joe the Plumber article here in Wiki. Unlike you, the American public has a very short memory. Karel is still well know in SoCal from his stint at KFI, reference has been added. Unsubstantiated ""Strong personal opinions"" have no place  in an encyclopedia. Decisions will be made by administrators and the biography of living persons notice board and they will be notified. 
 Editing with a consistently negative point of view is not what NPOV stands for. I will not engage in an edit war with you. As FeralDruid said ""no matter what I say, you're going to argue..."" 
 I will not go there again.  "