", 6 June 2013 (UTC) 
 :It pains me to admit it but I agree with Ranze on some of this.  I missed just why the Prison section was removed. On the other hand it is music to my ears to hear guys complaining about a ""double standard"" after a few weeks of it after cramming one down everyone's throats for several thousand years. But the issue about Men's rights versus Men's rights movement versus how ever this topic is named is the one about sources. As soon as an article such as this gets created a plague of red linkers show up and start quoting blogs and newsletters and all sorts of unusable sources.  I suggest that folks who wish to do so start an article on someone's user page and do whatever seems to cover the topic and then publish it. In my opinion what men need to do is take a hard, honest look at where their suffering is coming from because I totally believe that they will come to recognize that it is not from feminists but from other men who profit from those sufferings.     22:19"