Full circle. I again refer to my 4 < 4 reductio ad absurdum argument below, or, for an infinite summation argument, . I think Mr. 192's biggest problem here is that he's treating infinity as though it is a natural number - an arbitrarily big one, specifically. It's not a number at all. It's a concept, which is really only useful in some concepts in higher math, such as limits and integrals and so forth.