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 ::So in otherwords, you fear of muslims 

 ::I already said I'm not afraid of Muslims, just that you would take my fear of Islamists (which is a political ideology) as a fear of Muslims.  It has nothing to do with propoganda, but I guess people can't think for themselves in this world, eh? 

 ::You are correct, I think the United Nations is a ridiculous organization.  One of its primary reasons for creation was to make sure a Holocaust never happened again.  Just like your belief that sometimes murder is justified (for the record, not all killing is murder, but I won't use scare quotes around the word because I think that's childish in a debate with someone), I am an idealist about some things, and genocide is one.  That might be surprising considering my other statements, but systematic extermination does boil my blood.  My major problem with Clinton was his turning a blind eye to Rwanda, a case where I wouldn't have minded losing American lives to ensure the slaughter ended.  It's an issue almost totally ignored here in the States, and in relation to the United Nations. (It's also my main problem with Bush, his ignoring of the Sudan ""crisis"" - I use scare quotes there, because it's obviously a genocide.)  It has to do with the motives behind the killing, I think, that makes me so angry/upset.  We killed far more Vietnamese with bombs than the soldiers did in My Lai, but My Lai is the one that pisses me off.  The Japanese killed 3000 Americans at Pearl Harbor, but the Rape of Nanking gets me more upset.  And don't get me started on the Holocaust, there's no words to describe my feelings for that crime.  I could probably find more instances where the deaths of non-Americans upset me more than Americans, but none pop immediately to mind. 

 ::Oh, and I forgot to say this in all my other replies, but I'm not a realist as it applies to that school of geopolitics.  I meant that I usually realize that my ideals are sometimes ridiculously out of line with how the real world functions.  Personally, I think the realist worldview is abhorrent, and I couldn't be one anyway.  They don't support Israel, or any other country that doesn't help America out.   "