==Re Stoke - Derby== 

 Only noticed the pages at http://www.dudleymall.co.uk/loclrail/loclrail.htm and more specifically http://www.dudleymall.co.uk/loclrail/stokederby.htm where it is expressed so - when i have time I'll redo my edits (and i don't object to you or anyone else doing so). Obviously with the detail on the website a lot of work could be done on the various midlands rail services, but despite my 3 years at uni up here in the north I'm no expert