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 :::Information supplied by the subject may be added to the article if: 

 :::* Information meets verifiability, NPOV, and no original research policies.  
 :::* It is relevant to the person's notability;  
 :::* It is not contentious;  
 :::* It is not unduly self-serving;  
 :::* There is no reasonable doubt that it was provided by the subject.  

 :::This information is verifiable, is neutral, and is not original research. It is relevent to Obama's notability (i.e., he is an African-American candidate for President), and it is not contentious. This information does not unduly benefit Obama and it is clear that the information was provided by Obama as it is available on his website. To impose a requirement that racial designators that are used by Obama himself to describe himself not be included in this article is a POV and violates Wikipedia policy.  |   

 ::::I didn't say that you can't use Obama's racial designation for himself.  I merely stated that wasn't the only one you can use.  It clearly lays it all out in the policy you just copied and pasted there.  Its a matter of usage.  It is fine to say he is an African-American presidential candidate if you have a nice cite talking about it (which there are many).  What is not appropriate is tossing out racial designators wherever an editor thinks it sounds nice (I am not saying that you have or want to do this... it has just happened in the past).    

 :::::If you are able to show based on policy that using racial designations that the subject of the biography uses to describe themselves as editors think appropriate than you would have a point yet there is nothing in policy which prohibits or otherwise requires that such descriptions not be used. If this is not the case than you should reference the policy in question. The Manual of Style refers to this as, ""Where known, use terminology that subjects use for themselves"" and ""this can mean using the term an individual uses for himself or herself."" I don't intend to edit this article so you need not worry about whether I will ever use the word African-American anywhere in the article. I am here simply to add to the discussions on the talk page. I don't agree that it's inappropriate to refer to Obama as African-American wherever an editor feels it appropriate to mention and I believe that only one citation (with multiple sources as necessary) at the first mention of his being African-American is sufficent and that each reference to his being African-American need not be cited. The statements included in the article about Obama being African American stand alone on the few citations. Another example is religious designators which need to be cited once and then the person can be referred throughout the article as Catholic if they are consistent with other policies such as neutrality. It may have happened in the past that people included ""racial designators wherever they thought that it sounds nice"" and on the face there is nothing inappropriate about this except where it violates other policies.  |   

 You can't compare what a person chooses to be, to how a person is born.  Bad analogy.  

 ===PLEASE READ RE: RACE DISCUSSION=== 
 To be more specific for those who don't want to go back through the archives themselves or muck through the WP manual of style. Look at WP:STYLE#Identity as well as WP:NOR. The somewhat definitive discussion can be seen in the archives please look through them!   

 People are too lazy to read the archives, they think they are special and that their input is better than what has already been discussed.  This topic has been beaten over and over again (with me a contributing factor.)  He is not African-American.  How about we move forward in time and not backwards???   

 He is not african-american in the way the term is used in the united states, which is in fact unique, just like the sun does not revolve around the earth. Any ""debate"" that came to a contrary conclusion is not worth my time to read through.  
 :So in other words, it's your way or the highway, hmm?  Nice to see your attitude (not to mention your POV) so clearly spelled out for us; thanks.  —  [[Special:Contributions/Bbatsell|