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 ::::::My Mongol maps have Идэр гол not Идэрийн гол. ""Selenge Mörön River"" is a pleonasm, this absurd example I used to show how preposterous is pleonasm. But Delgermörön river exists in WP.""Khar Nuur"" is not necessary, because the name will make sense with word ""Lake"" wich better explane sens then Mongolian Nuur. I've created some proposals at Naming Conventions discussion page.  "