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 ::I wish I had a dime for every time I've seen someone who has never been to law school falsely claim to know how lawyers are ""indoctrinated."" 

 ::Dear ""Evolve-Or-Die"": Here's a clue: Citing Bouvier's in a Wikipedia talk page is a dead give away. If you want to impress others, don't cite Bouvier's, for heaven's sake. 

 ::Here's another clue. Lawyers in American law schools are not ""indoctrinated"" in the sense in which you obviously assume. Law school does not work the way you think it works. It's not high school or college. We don't sit for hours listening to professors lecture on a topic. And our reading materials do not consist primarily of textbooks, in the sense of a high school or college type of textbook. 

 ::A rise in the amount of pro se litigation, if any, is accompanied by a rise in the number of lawyers who win cases against pro se litigants  lawyers walking away ""in tears,"" all right  tears of laughter. 

 ::If you don't want other people to act in a snide and condescending manner, then don't pretend to be a legal scholar who somehow knows the law better than the lawyers, and don't come here and lecture the rest of us. 

 ::This talk page was not put here for the purpose of allowing anonymous non-lawyers to come here and make unsubstantiated and, bluntly, ridiculous off-topic statements about their beliefs about what lawyers do or do not know, etc. The purpose of this talk page is to provide a forum for disussing ways to improve the article.   "