"Jguk, your hysterics do not help. Either BC/AD are arbitrary, or they actually stand for something.  If you believe they are arbitrary, then it shouldnot matter to you at all what letters we use, and BCE and CE should be equally acceptable.  But you keep arguing — why do you care, if they are just letters?  You do care.  Obviously, making other people use AD and BC is important to you.  I do not understand why, but I do nknow it is wrong.  AD and BC do stand for something.  That is a fact.  You may not know what they stand for, but I do, and I see the POV.  This should not surprise you — I am sure that almost every editor at Wikipedia has written something that violated NPOV policy, and they didn't know why, and needed someone to tell them.  That is all that is going on here.  As I explained above (and you still haven't responded to this) your claim that if something is common it is NPOV is false and has nothing to do with our NPOV policy.  It just doesn't matter how many people use BC/AD or not.  You simply do not understand our NPOV policy.  It states, 
 :First, and most importantly, consider what it means to say that unbiased writing presents conflicting views without asserting them. Unbiased writing does not present only the most popular view; it does not assert the most popular view is correct after presenting all views; it does not assert that some sort of intermediate view among the different views is the correct one. 
 You can argue all you want.  But it is a fact that BC stands for ""before Christ"" and that represents a point of view.  As such it violates our NPOV policy.  You can scream at the top of your voice that many people do not know what the letters mean, so it doesn't matter.  But it is a fact that many people do know what these letters mean, and that is enough to raise NPOV issues.  You are so intent in forcing me to accept your beliefs (even the belief that ""Christ"" is something everyone should take for granted and just use, pretending the word means nothing).  You just can't stand the fact that I refuse to cave in to your pressure, your pressure that I take for granted what most White Anglo Saxon Protestants take for granted.  Too bad.  The very fact that I and many others will not bow to your will is itself proof that your beliefs are not universal, not natural.  They are your beliefs, not mine, and stop acting like everyone thinks the way you do.  This is the antithesis of our NPOV policy.    |    

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