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 == There are Black people in Egypt, India, etc == 

 And I will be putting BACK the references to Egypt in the article. You got a problem with it anonymous 208 discuss it here first. No unilateral omissions allowed.  

 Oh and Anon 208, & Soheir, I also notice, you removed most of the references I made, Cheikh Anta Diop, MOstafa Hefny, etc. I put them back. No explanation, no service.   

 It does not matter if the fact unsettles you that Black people exist in your culture throughout history. I don't care if you're Indian, Egyptian, or whatever. Get over it. Soheir I will simply repost them. If you have a problem with it being said that Black people have been in Egypt and that Ancient Egyptian culture has a strong Black component in it, then talk about it here. You remove it, I will put it back.  

 I was shocked when I came across this article while doing research on another topic. I am Egyptian and was stunned by the black ""afrocentric"", erroneous point of view being presented about my country and culture. First, why is Egypt being singled out in this manner? There have been black people who have migrated into Egypt, particularly in the past 40-50 years following the overthrow of the monarchy. These people are primarily Sudanese in origin. Mostafa Henfry that you cited had a Sudanese mother. This reference should be removed because according to US standards he would not be considered ""Egyptian."" In Egypt, the child takes the status of his or her father. In Egypt, there is not the hostility between racial groups that I have witnessed here in the United States. There isnt the obsession. Does it mean that because there are Black Americans that ALL Americans...or even the majority are black? Or that there are black Britons that all British people are black? So why because there is black minority in Egypt as there is in most countries today that this article tries to characterize all Egyptians as people group as being black?  

 : Egypt is not being singled out. Many other countries are mentioned. So that shows that you are acting in a paranoid or arrogant fashion. Secondly, why should it stun you that there were and are Black people in your own country? Does it stun you that there are white people in your country? Does it stun you that there are Arab people (you know the people that originally came from the ARABIAN peninsulia) in your country? Secondly, since his FATHER (not mother) is Egyptian how then is he ""not Egyptian"" since the child takes the status of the father? I do believe you are confusing Mostafa Hefny with Anwar Saddat (but I could be wrong). What information do YOU have access to that indicates that Mostafa Hefny's mother is Sudanese?  How then can you say that there is a Black minority in Egypt that I characterize all Egyptians as a people group as being Black. Let us review what this article says about Egypt.  

 No I do not have Anwar Sadat confused with Mostafa Henfy. I had never heard of Mostafa Henfy until I looked up the name and read several news reports where Mostafa Henfy describes himself as being a Nubian Egyptian or of Nubian descent. He certainly should be allowed to classify himself as black and not be told what to classify himself as. I also saw a photograph and he does appear to be black based on his physical characteristics. My problem is that all you saw with the headlines was ""Egyptian"" or ""Egyptian"" immigrant which belies the fact that his own self-described origins are Nubian and not representative of all Egyptians. So if the ""racial classification"" is changed based on this one individual so now I and other Egyptians who do not identify with nor have black ethnic characteristics will have to sue to be able to identify ourselves. Personally I would advocate the removal of these classifications. They seem very contradictory in the United States especially that is supposed to be a color-blind society.  

 ""while other countries like Egypt and the northern areas of Sudan tend to denounce it entirely whenever possible, holding on to Arabic or Semitic influences as their primary heritage."" That seems to be what you are doing right now. You are denouncing the Black influence in Egypt, and holding on to the notion that the only primary influence in Egypt is Arabic and Semetic. Am I to understand that the character of Egypt is devoid of black heritage?  

 ""However, many racist organizations have attributed historical achievements in ancient societies to these supposed Caucasoid ancestors in their efforts to deny any black contribution to civilization, as in the case of the Ancient Egyptian cultu