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 == Lead == 

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 I see you have the same issues at the Madhyamaka article. The whole lede is incorrect there.  
 :Would we not simply employ the simplex meaning ""emptiness"" for śūnyatā and then expand upon that word's meaning further?    
 ::Vic, we know you don't like the Gelugs; unfortunately, they exist, and they are quite present in this world. What additional info would you suggest, based on which sources?  -  
 :::The Madhyamaka lede is not even Gelug view.  It is just weird stuff.  
 ::::Vic, I've heard you! Please: what's the alternative, from which sources?  -  
 ::::::In the Madhyamaka lede, I would replace the second and third sentence with:   ""Nagarjuna and Chandrakirti emphasize that all phenomena are without arising and ceasing"". Reference is Center of the Sunlit Sky page 587.  

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