input: Summarize the presentation on trend-watching.
  Project Manager: Okay, all set? Welcome to the conceptual design meeting.
  User Interface: Uh, okay.
  Industrial Designer: Yes.
  Project Manager: The agenda. The opening. I'll again be the secretary and make minutes, take minutes, uh and it will be three presentations, just like the last meeting. So um, {vocalsound} who wants to start off? Technical uh designer again?
  User Interface: {vocalsound} Again.
  Project Manager: Okay.
  User Interface: Hmm.
  Project Manager: Uh, yeah. Uh, before we begin it, I want to say I've I've put the minutes of the uh second meeting in the shared folder, but they're still not uh quite okay. It uh it uh still some technical difficulties so the the first part of the minutes are very hard to read, because there are two documents that uh were layered over each other.
  User Interface: Mm-hmm.
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: So {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Okay.
  Project Manager: But uh, from now on I won't use my pen anymore, so will be p just {vocalsound} ordinary keyboard.
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Uh, may be better, yeah.
  Marketing: Keyboard work. Yeah.
  Project Manager: I think it {gap} will will be more uh easy for you to read the minutes.
  User Interface: Yeah.
  Marketing: Alright.
  Industrial Designer: Okay, when we talk about uh components design, um it's really about the material and the {disfmarker} and uh uh really the stuff we build uh the remote controls of. Um, a remote control consist of uh components and the components of a remote control consist of uh properties and material. We have to choose th uh these uh wisely and it could affect uh uh a kind of grow of {disfmarker} in uh in buying uh the remote controls. Um, the components of a remote control are of course uh the case. Uh the properties of the case, um it has to be solid uh in hard material like uh hard plastic uh with soft rubber for uh falling and and uh uh {disfmarker} yeah, it feels uh good in your hand.
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Mm the buttons has to be uh solid too, and the material is soft rubber. Uh I've got a uh email from the possibilities of Real Reaction. Um uh they're telling me that um when we build uh a remote control of um of plastic or rubber, the uh buttons have to be uh rubber too. Mm {disfmarker} It's okay. Yeah. I when we use a rubbled {disfmarker} a doubled curved case, we must use a rubber push-buttons to {disfmarker} uh the the rubber double-curved case is a is a t uh three-dimensional uh curve in the in the design, which is uh necessary when we want to be trendy. Uh {disfmarker} Um
  User Interface: Oh.
  Industrial Designer: the energy source, uh I've got a lot of possibilities for that too. Um, uh the basic battery, which I thi prefer because of its uh its non uh non-depending of of of uh um {disfmarker} Uh here you have to have a hand uh {disfmarker} yeah, kinetic uh energy. Also in uh this one, like in the watches, but a remote control can lie on a table for a day, and then you push uh a button and {disfmarker} so you don't have to uh walk with it all the all the time. Mm, solar cells are also uh a bit weird for uh remote controls.
  Marketing: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Um uh also the case material, uh I think that plastic is the is the best with rubber, because uh wood or titanium would also be a bit weird.
  User Interface: Oh titanium is probably trendy, I think. {gap}.
  Marketing: That's true, I guess. Yeah.
  User Interface: Well, maybe a little bit expensive.
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: I don't know.
  Industrial Designer: Uh, they don't tell anything about the cost of uh titanium.
  Marketing: Huh.
  Industrial Designer: Um the chip {disfmarker} uh the chip set uh and the board is uh all off the shelf. Also, the speaker in the remote control, when we want to retrieve it. Um, the base station is also off the shelf, all the materials and the components are uh just available in uh in our uh factory. Mm, I've told about uh the three first points. Mm, the simple electronical chip uh is is available uh with the LED transmitter uh transmitter. Uh, it's all uh off the shelf and even the speaker and the wireless retriever are all uh available in our company. Um, another possibility. I uh yeah, I looked up on was uh the L_C_D_ displays. Could be uh something special to our uh remote control, and it's possible, but it only cost a bit more, but maybe it can be uh within the limits of twenty five Euros.
  Project Manager: Twelve and a half. Actually {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Ah yeah.
  Marketing: Yeah.
  User Interface: Yeah, production cost.
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} I th I got an email with uh some examples and it {disfmarker} these were were the most trendiest one.
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: You see uh a covers, which can be {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: What are those, t tooth uh brushes, or so
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Um, I don't know. Um {disfmarker}
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: But it's actually kind of uh {disfmarker}
  User Interface: I {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: well, it resembles the design I had in mind for this proj
  Industrial Designer: Yes.
  Project Manager: You know the the cartoonish {vocalsound} Alessi kind of design.
  Marketing: Yep.
  Industrial Designer: Yes, maybe we can uh bri uh bring a couple of uh couple of types of uh {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: And we can we can steal their ideas.
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: maybe a kind of uh whole uh um a whole set of uh different uh remote controls.
  Project Manager: Huh.
  Industrial Designer: Maybe we can bring a whole line uh with uh with a {gap} huge variety of uh
  Project Manager: Well, it's a possibility, too.
  Industrial Designer: uh house uh stuff.
  User Interface: Different colours also.
  Industrial Designer: Like uh {vocalsound} maybe radios and uh television also uh in this in this {disfmarker} in the same style, but {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Uh-uh.
  Marketing: {vocalsound} Yeah, that'll be for the future, I guess.
  Project Manager: Okay.
  User Interface: {vocalsound} Yeah. {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} Next time we're here. {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Yes, because we have to uh {disfmarker} we have to {disfmarker} {vocalsound} we have to bring the logo and all the stuff uh back into it.
  Marketing: {vocalsound} Yeah. {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Oh, okay.
  Marketing: Yeah. Definitely.
  Project Manager: Okay.
  User Interface: {vocalsound} Okay.
  Industrial Designer: Thank you. {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Alright.
  User Interface: {gap} uh {disfmarker}
  Marketing: {vocalsound} Yeah. That's okay.
  User Interface: Ah.
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Well, I shall go to the next slide. Um
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: um, I still don't have any information about user requirements.
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: I was thinking about just uh the basic functions and I got uh {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Oh, we decided upon that in the last meeting. Didn't we?
  User Interface: Yeah, but but then wh I don't know when there are new user requirements.
  Project Manager: Oh, okay. Well, tha I didn't receive any new requirements or somethi
  User Interface: I ha I ha I have the I have {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Just {disfmarker}
  User Interface: nothing.
  Project Manager: no, but we decided to use only b basic functions only.
  User Interface: Well, I have here a couple of basic functions I could think of.
  Project Manager: Okay.
  User Interface: I dunno if they're {disfmarker} maybe a little bit more, but {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Well we {disfmarker} maybe we can think of that later. W just {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Yeah.
  Project Manager: these are the ones you already summed up in the {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Yeah, I I uh {vocalsound} well, I pointed them out here, just to make it a little bit easier.
  Project Manager: Okay.
  User Interface: Um Another function uh is {disfmarker} of course we already discuss it on the side. Um, I don't know what costs of it. Uh, I've no idea about it. Uh, I was also looking for what you said, for {disfmarker} I got an email uh uh about uh L_C_D_ in in in front of the remote control. I don't know if that's a good idea, or maybe it's a little bit too much for twelve and a half. Production.
  Project Manager: Yeah.
  User Interface: If we got already uh something like a base.
  Industrial Designer: Uh-huh.
  Project Manager: That might get redundant also maybe. I don't know what kind of information it would {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Yeah, I don't know. I d I uh ju I was just thinking about it. Then I got a pop-ups to go to the meeting. But {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Mm yeah.
  Project Manager: Yeah. Yeah, it's okay.
  Industrial Designer: Maybe we can bring t uh uh teletext to the t {vocalsound} to the remote control. {vocalsound}
  User Interface: The remote control.
  Marketing: {vocalsound} Then you {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: {vocalsound} {gap} a little uh too {disfmarker} {vocalsound} A little bit {disfmarker}
  Marketing: and then you've got a flag s {vocalsound} Very big R_C_. Yeah.
  Project Manager: Okay. {vocalsound} That's not {disfmarker} {vocalsound} It was not a good idea.
  User Interface: A little bit too big, I think. Exactly.
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Okay.
  User Interface: Um, yeah. Well, the functions are are not more to discuss, I think.
  Project Manager: No. No.
  User Interface: It's it's just the base things we already discussed that the {disfmarker} no V_C_R_ or that kind of {disfmarker}
  Marketing: No.
  User Interface: uh, so that's very easy. Um {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: But you do mention the next and previous uh button.
  User Interface: Mm-hmm.
  Project Manager: {gap}
  User Interface: Well, that's next channel. I mean {gap} next channel.
  Marketing: Next channel, previous channel.
  Project Manager: Oh, okay, o okay okay.
  User Interface: Uh {disfmarker} Um {disfmarker} oh, I I got an email with {disfmarker} {vocalsound} with an uh a remote control with a base.
  Project Manager: Huh.
  User Interface: So, it's uh just an idea. And I um {disfmarker} {vocalsound} uh thinked of the button sizes and I'm not sure uh if they have to be big or uh just small {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: But you're the expert. {vocalsound}
  Marketing: I think it depends on the function.
  User Interface: Well, I'm not a e I'm the expert for user-friendly, but not for trendiness.
  Project Manager: Mm-hmm.
  User Interface: Maybe it {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Well, if you save uh {disfmarker} Perhaps uh s tiny buttons aren't user-friendly, then we wouldn't im implement that of course.
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
  User Interface: {vocalsound} Well uh {vocalsound} {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: okay, that's your point. Um, yeah. Yeah, okay.
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Yeah, I've nothing to {vocalsound} s
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Well, w when we only use basic functions, we have the possibility to make the buttons larger.
  Marketing: Oh, that's right.
  User Interface: Uh, with a little bit larger, yeah.
  Marketing: Yeah.
  User Interface: I thought so, but maybe with the {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Well, I think we already agreed upon the fact that the the the skip buttons and the cha and the volume buttons, th th those two have {disfmarker} yeah, they have to be large.
  User Interface: Yeah, that groups.
  Project Manager: Uh, I mean th th the the two two basic buttons, you know, the {disfmarker} to skip channels and to uh {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Large? Yeah.
  Marketing: Yep.
  Project Manager: I think {disfmarker} yeah, I don't know why, but I think that is {disfmarker} that's t trendy too,
  User Interface: Most {disfmarker} the most used uh buttons.
  Marketing: Those are probably the the th
  Project Manager: because that's the mo it {disfmarker} it {disfmarker} you know, it's uh acc acc um accentu uh, how do you say it? It puts an extra accent on the the on the simplicity of our remotes to j to make these two most basic functions extra big, like t
  Marketing: Yes.
  User Interface: True. Yeah.
  Marketing: Those are probably the b four most most used buttons on the th in the remote control.
  Project Manager: Yeah. And you want to acc accentuate that, you know.
  Industrial Designer: You did the research.
  User Interface: Yeah.
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} It's from your research. {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Sorry? Yeah, sure. {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} So {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Okay. Uh, that was all y
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: uh personal preference I didn't have.
  Project Manager: Okay.
  User Interface: I didn't had any time left.
  Project Manager: No uh, that's coo it's cool.
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound} You don't care. No, {vocalsound} sorry. {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Yeah.
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Oh. Go away.
  User Interface: It's there.
  Marketing: Come on.
  User Interface: Yeah, click on it.
  Marketing: {gap}.
  User Interface: Couple time.
  Marketing: Oh, great. Well, I've done some research again about trends on the internet. Um I've done some investigation, and uh well I uh got some information from fashion watchers from Paris and uh Milan. {vocalsound} Some uh some findings {disfmarker} the most important thing is fancy look and feel of the remote control. Uh, well, we were going to imply that, so that's nice. The second important thing is uh innovative technology in the R_C_. Uh, our market really likes really likes that. And uh the third point there in this uh order if {disfmarker} of importance, the third point, is a high ease of use. And uh, well, for the idea, I've put some trends uh for the market of elderly people.
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Dark colours, simple recognisable shapes. So we probably won't do that.
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: The younger market likes uh {disfmarker} Well, {gap} the {gap} themes of of this year are uh surprisingly fruits and vegetables and spongy material.
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: I found this image, which is uh {disfmarker} Well, it symbolises the idea of fruits and vegetables. I don't see the spongy part in it. But with a little bit of fancy {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Well maybe c {vocalsound} then we have to do something with Sponge Bob then. {vocalsound}
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound} Exactly. I got some ideas {disfmarker}
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Uh well, yeah, pictures isn't really good word, but um
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: some symbols of fruits or vegetables maybe. Uh, catchy colours.
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Fruit is uh yellow, green, red, whatever.
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: So, remote controls in in catchy colours.
  Project Manager: It doesn't stroke with the with the dark colours.
  Marketing: Uh, no, we don't want dark colours.
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} Not the dark colours? Okay.
  Marketing: {vocalsound} No, I just put them there to uh, yeah, uh for general idea.
  Project Manager: Okay.
  Marketing: And uh, the docking st
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: uh I think the spongy material is is very irritating for the uh remote control itself. But to {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Yeah, the {disfmarker} {vocalsound} To implement some spongy thing, maybe we can do it in the in the docking station. At the bottom of the docking station or whatever. And uh, we could bring one line with a dark colour uh to um uh p uh yeah {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: uh uh v how do you say?
  Project Manager: For diversity or something. Uh {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Yeah, also a bit for elderly people who are a little bit crazy and want {vocalsound} maybe want a little younger design but still the dark colour.
  User Interface: Well, how uh {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: I mean it it it reaches a different market uh, but it it it doesn't cost really much effort to b to uh bring uh like a black R_C_ on the market or whatever. Yes.
  User Interface: But how do we use uh fruits and vegetables in Christ's {vocalsound} sake with {vocalsound} remote control?
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: No, but I I I think that uh our design already resembles so a piece of fruit.
  Marketing: Yeah, there's there's always a
  User Interface: Uh, make it a banana?
  Project Manager: It's like a pear or something.
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Well there there's always empty space of course on a remote control. I mean I think this part of the R_C_ uh well {vocalsound} the upper the upper part or whatever is uh is not not used with buttons, I guess.
  Project Manager: No, I don't think you have to do it like {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: So you you can put some fruity things {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Yeah, but it that doesn't have to remind you, you know, like explicitly of s our f of a of a specific piece of fruit, but just, you know, like the the the the round curves.
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: No, of course not.
  Project Manager: And so y I I think this {disfmarker} y it already sem resembles uh something like a pear to me or something.
  Marketing: Especially i
  User Interface: Yeah, but th {vocalsound} yeah, but that {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Yeah, yeah. Yeah, exactly.
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Yeah.
  User Interface: Yeah, but that's {disfmarker}
  Marketing: If we make it little bit greenish.
  Project Manager: You do get the idea, eh? The fruity kind of round {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Yeah uh uh {disfmarker}
  Project Manager:'Kay.
  Marketing: A {vocalsound} and we could use {vocalsound} one of these for the uh w what is it?
  Project Manager: Yeah, uh {disfmarker} yeah, I don't know.
  Industrial Designer: Grapes.
  Marketing: Uh {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} Uh, this is a b yeah. {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Isn't {disfmarker} Wha whatever.
  User Interface: But d don't we need a creative artist or something like that to m make it to feel like a a a a vegetable or fruit?
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Yeah, yeah. Of course we have uh {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Yeah, sure.
  Project Manager: we have a very big uh the s
  Marketing: Yeah. Well, w we can uh {disfmarker} w we can we can produce multiple uh multiple things.
  Industrial Designer: For a big team of artists. {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Of d design team, yeah.
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: This is then the uh pear. I don't know the English word, so forget it.
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} Yeah, but {disfmarker} {vocalsound} It's pear, I guess.
  Marketing: {vocalsound} And um, maybe, yeah, a b a banana is uh is n {vocalsound} not easy for a remote control, but m yeah.
  Industrial Designer: But uh but I think we don't have to make
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} No.
  Industrial Designer: we can't make all uh ten designs. We have to make one design I th I I think.
  Project Manager: No, but I think it's it's already what we were were up to.
  Marketing: Mayb maybe two or three.
  User Interface: Yeah.
  Project Manager: Uh, it's {disfmarker} it doesn't have to resemble uh what I already said, a specific piece of fruit, but just, you know, like a fruity thing going on.
  User Interface: {gap}
  Marketing: Yeah. No sure, but but {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: And it's {disfmarker} it looks fruity to me.
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: B but that's great, and and and what I was {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: And uh, but I do like the {disfmarker}
  Marketing: what what I was saying, the catchy colours {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: yeah, I do like uh the f uh to {disfmarker} the idea of making a a y uh, a catchy colour design and a d because I do {disfmarker} I think a dark colour would be nice too.
  Industrial Designer: But pictures of fruit, vegetables vegetables {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Yeah.
  Project Manager: Maybe it's too much, you know.
  User Interface: But, we we have to um {disfmarker} There have to be the the the the firm colours, our own uh colours has to be in it.
  Marketing: Yeah, uh not really. Pictures was a was a bad word, but {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Okay, but what are the {disfmarker} This is yellow.
  Marketing: Well we c yeah.
  User Interface: Yellow, a Real Reaction.
  Industrial Designer: Yes, you can put a logo on top of it.
  Project Manager: But I don't think our our company colours are this fashionable.
  Marketing: Yeah, sure.
  User Interface: Uh, yeah.
  Marketing: Maybe we can if if we got our docking station over here.
  User Interface: {vocalsound} We uh f
  Industrial Designer: Yes, it's really fruity. {vocalsound}
  Marketing: I can't draw with this thing, but I'll try.
  User Interface: A yellow do
  Marketing: If this is our docking station, we can make our logo over here.
  User Interface: Uh, yeah.
  Marketing: It doesn't work. And then {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Yeah, and the button then.
  Industrial Designer: With a strawberry on top.
  Project Manager: Yeah, on uh n uh on the bottom of the remote you can do {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Well, the button button over here or whatever,
  User Interface: Okay, yeah.
  Marketing: I don't know. On the front, of course, because else you can't find it.
  User Interface: Okay.
  Marketing: Well, that were my ideas a little bit.
  Project Manager: Okay.
  Marketing: I'll close'em down. Um, go away.
  Project Manager: Okay, you {disfmarker} can you open the conceptual design presentation?
  Marketing: Conceptual design, yes.
  Project Manager: See what was on the agenda.
  User Interface: {vocalsound} Lazy. {vocalsound}
  Marketing: The agenda.
  Project Manager: This is his own remote. Because um, maybe we can start with the technical uh functions,
  User Interface: Yeah.
  Project Manager: but I don't think it's there {disfmarker} uh, yeah um, do we want to um use an L_C_D_ display, for example?
  Marketing: Well, it's nice, of course. But I don't I don't know what to display on it.
  Industrial Designer: Only if we {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} Me neither.
  Industrial Designer: Maybe maybe we can make a T_V_ guide on it, for the channel you're on.
  Marketing: I mean {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Yeah, but it's so {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Yeah, but it should be li like this big, and I don't think {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: No, no, only the T_V_ channel with the {disfmarker} with uh with {vocalsound} uh four programmes.
  Project Manager: I don't think we should do it.
  Industrial Designer: You can uh zap through them with the page up page down button.
  Marketing: Yes sure, but it it has to to show an entire title of a programme or at least a q a quite quite large part of it and then you get a very large L_C_D_ screen, because {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Yes, it can {disfmarker} On your {disfmarker} No, on your mobile phone you can y you can read text also. So why not on your remote?
  Project Manager: Yeah, but {disfmarker} no. I do I think it's a bit redundant, actually.
  Marketing: Yeah, I don't know.
  Project Manager: And it's also not {disfmarker} I don't th even think it it looks s like sexy or something,
  User Interface: Well well what would you display on it then?
  Project Manager: it's {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Uh, programme uh information or or or or g or a guide
  Marketing: Programme information.
  User Interface: But is it {disfmarker} isn't that a already on T_V_, a lot of new T_V_s?
  Marketing: But {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: on t on teletext, yes. Also on the internet.
  Marketing: Well a lot a lot of T_V_s indeed show uh when you uh zap to a {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: But {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: But you're already watching the T_V_, you're not gonna watch your remote control.
  User Interface: Yeah.
  Industrial Designer: Yes, but you also want to know what's next.
  Marketing: But then we also uh w need to bring out a line of T_V_s which we were planning to,
  User Interface: Yeah,
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: and we also have to {disfmarker} yeah.
  Marketing: but whatever. Because the T_V_ has to send information back to the R_C_, and I don't know if that's possible.
  Industrial Designer: Yes, that's uh really possible. {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Yes, yes, o of course it's possible,
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: but you gotta uh implement it in the T_V_s, and I don't think everyone's gonna buy a Real Reaction T_V_ within a month after the release of our uh remote control.
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: I really understand you want to make your job more exciting {vocalsound} by putting an L_C_D_ in it,
  User Interface: And I also {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: but I I really don't think it's a good n goo because it also doesn't stroke with {disfmarker} we wanted uh c When we talk about the materials, uh it's a good idea to use these plastic materials with soft rubber stuff on it. It was our idea, you know, to give it a more sturdy look and that you ca like you can throw with it.
  Marketing: Yeah.
  Project Manager: But I don't think a L_C_D_ display fits in that image. You know, it's like more vulnerable, and it adds nothing really, you know.
  Marketing: That's true, that's true, it breaks f yeah, it it it's not very solid, it's uh frag fragile.
  Project Manager: Yeah, yeah. You could make it, but it's just {disfmarker} it it doesn't {disfmarker} I don't think it {disfmarker} it's coherent with the design we're after.
  Marketing: No. No. I don't think so ei either.
  Project Manager: But that's my opinion. Well, you you y Okay, we can vote for it. You want the L_C_D_ display. I don't want to and {vocalsound} he doesn't, so it's up to him.
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} No.
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} If we wanna {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Yeah, I dunno.
  Marketing: {vocalsound}. Ah. {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: And I've read somewhere that I've got some kind of veto veto uh rights.
  User Interface: {vocalsound}. Oh, okay.
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound} Bastard. {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} So I can also say {disfmarker}
  User Interface: We can {gap} you away.
  Project Manager: But did we skip the {disfmarker} Yeah, you could do {disfmarker}
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: m but what what i so what i but do you think we should {disfmarker}
  User Interface: {vocalsound} Yeah, I don't know. Uh, uh I {disfmarker} i if it's it's a simple p
  Project Manager: We're not even sure what what information we want to display on it. So {disfmarker}
  User Interface: No, that that's right,
  Industrial Designer: No uh um {disfmarker}
  User Interface: and uh I also have to think about new functions, maybe buttons or something like that to control it. Kind of L_C_D_ or something or {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Y yes, you can use uh buttons uh uh w that are already uh on the remote control for double functions.
  Marketing: Yeah, I guess.
  User Interface: But how does it display then? W when I go to the second channel, what what does it show me?
  Industrial Designer: Uh, then you push a button. The title and the information about the programme.
  User Interface: About that programme?
  Industrial Designer: But but uh {disfmarker} yeah, what he said was right, about the televisions, they have to be uh customised to the {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Nah, that's not gonna work.
  Industrial Designer: But maybe in future it will be a giant hit, and when you are the first
  Marketing: No.
  Project Manager: Yeah. Oh, well uh I've seen it done before.
  Industrial Designer: you have the biggest uh {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Do you know th like the the bigger rem uh universal remotes, they have d L_C_D_ displays,
  User Interface: Yeah.
  Project Manager: but then it's very functional to indicate which {disfmarker} what uh uh device you are controlling. So it's {disfmarker} that that's what I've seen.
  Industrial Designer: Yes, you can put uh a little L_C_D_ display on it with uh with lots of information.
  Marketing: Yeah, that's true, if you uh {disfmarker} Yeah.
  Project Manager: But it just {disfmarker} it j it doesn't doesn't match with the {gap} our whole basic concept.
  Industrial Designer: But uh I haven't thought about it. But whe but when you put a a a transparent uh plastic uh uh screen on top of it, it i it isn't vulnerable.
  Project Manager: Well yeah, yeah, okay. That's maybe not the most important,
  Industrial Designer: You can throw with it and {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: but it's just {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Is it fashion?
  Project Manager: I don't think so.
  Industrial Designer: When when you put uh maybe a colour L_C_D_ t uh screen on it, it's very special and very trendy to have uh a remote control from {disfmarker}
  User Interface: {vocalsound} I don't know. That's not up to you. That's up to market if i if it's trendy.
  Project Manager: Yeah, well do you ha do you have to {disfmarker} {gap} You haven't looked after the trendiness of L_C_D_ displays, have you?
  Marketing: {vocalsound} No. {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: {vocalsound} {gap} {vocalsound} Because our our motto is we put fashion {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Well, I think it's uh I think it's pretty trendy, to be honest, uh but um I don't know if if if {disfmarker} well, I'm coming back to the costs again, but I think uh we gotta build a b pretty cheap design to to stay within our limits. And I think uh especially colour L_C_D_, which is indeed pretty trendy. But I don't think {disfmarker} Uh, I think it will be too expensive.
  Industrial Designer: But uh I've got a {disfmarker} the email with uh with the possibilities. {vocalsound} And L_C_D_ was a possibility for the remote control.
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Yeah yeah yeah.
  Industrial Designer: So why don't we use it.
  Project Manager: Yeah, but we're gonna {disfmarker} if it {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Uh, did it say a price also uh for for uh monogramme uh L_C_D_ or uh coloured L_C_D_?
  User Interface: Yeah, if you want to be trendy you have to be coloured. Coloured {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Yeah really,
  User Interface: If you have black and white or something, or grey, that's {disfmarker}
  Marketing: if y if you c i
  Project Manager: Then uh then you better don't {disfmarker} yeah, d
  Marketing: I in in two thousand and four you can't uh put something on the market which is a monogramme.
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound} Really. {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: No, but it doesn't sa say anything about a colour or {disfmarker} But, mm, I alf I also got a possibility to put uh a scroll button on it. But {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Uh uh I really don't feel the whole idea of an L_C_D_ display.
  Industrial Designer: I didn't think that {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {gap}
  Project Manager: I'm sorry. It can't co you cannot convince me. I don't know how {disfmarker} well how to {disfmarker} with you guys, but {disfmarker} I don't really feel it. We already {disfmarker} we're uh {disfmarker}
  User Interface: {vocalsound} It's too much uh maybe uh with with the L_C_D_ and the docking station and {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Yeah, we already have the the th th th base station gadgets,
  Marketing: Yeah.
  Project Manager: and want {disfmarker} and it {disfmarker} uh uh, do {disfmarker} it has to be a simple design, which sturdy, which soft {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Yes, but o on the {disfmarker}
  Marketing: W we've we've gotta find a balance, of course.
  User Interface: With one thing special.
  Marketing: And I think {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Not a whole package of specialty.
  Project Manager: I don't think {disfmarker} I j uh, and really, I don't see how the the L_C_D_ display is gonna add anything, you know, on a design level. Uh, I think it's slicker to have no L_ CEDs.
  Industrial Designer: No, when y
  Project Manager: Y we want to {disfmarker} it's simplicity, w you have two big buttons and you can do whatever you want with these two buttons, so you don't need an L_C_D_.
  Industrial Designer: But it look {disfmarker} Yes, but that remote controls are already on the market. The simple {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: It doesn't fit in our philosophy uh behind the whole remote.
  Industrial Designer: Yes, but but when you want to have something special {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Yeah, but we already have the docking station, which is {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yes, but you had a picture of it from another company.
  User Interface: And uh the {disfmarker}
  Marketing: We have a pear.
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} {gap} It has to be developed,
  User Interface: {vocalsound} Yeah. {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: but {disfmarker} no, but it {disfmarker} that's {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: that's our that's our killer feature.
  User Interface: It's just an it's just an idea.
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: That's our {disfmarker} what makes it special.
  User Interface: It's a it's {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Yes, it was already made. Tha the remote control on the docking station.
  Project Manager: Yeah, we're gonna develop our own r n docking station.
  User Interface: True.
  Marketing: Is that so? Was it {disfmarker} {vocalsound} it wasn't just a prototype?
  User Interface: Well uh I uh {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Yes, he have a picture of it.
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Yeah, I dunno.
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Exactly, I've never seen it in a store.
  Project Manager: Uh, but re we really have to cut this off,
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: I re I know you {disfmarker} I I I I {vocalsound} I get the idea you really like it, you know, the the L_C_D_ thing, but I I think it's it's not a good idea, and we have already mentioned all the arguments. I don't {disfmarker} uh, do you guys agre How do you guys think? I d
  User Interface: No, it's too much.
  Marketing: I think it's a little too much, yeah.
  User Interface: It's overdone.
  Project Manager: Okay, we s skip the {vocalsound} L_C_D_ display.
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Okay. {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound} Okay.
  Project Manager: I'm sorry, maybe you can do something if we are at your own place, or make it make it make it happen in your basement or something.
  User Interface: {vocalsound} Democratically.
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound} No.
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Mayb {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound} {gap}. {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: But {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} I will rule the world with it. {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} Probably so.
  Marketing: {vocalsound} Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
  Project Manager: Okay. But for the technical part. The m material, I think uh it was a good idea to use the plastic and uh the rubber. Uh
  Industrial Designer: Yes, maybe a bit of a cushion is {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Yeah yeah yeah, p Exactly. This is what it w Yeah, but it it was already what we're uh we're after, you know, to give it uh, you know, the soft touch in your hands
  Marketing: Yeah, for the spongy uh feel. {vocalsound} Yeah.
  Industrial Designer: Yes.
  User Interface: With a spongy Bob feel.
  Project Manager: and also to, know, like {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Yeah.
  Project Manager: Yeah, that is y the b airbag kind of thing.
  Industrial Designer: Like a b yes.
  Project Manager: You can st throw it at your little brother's head.
  User Interface: Yeah, you just can drop it. Yeah.
  Marketing: {vocalsound} Yeah, airbag. If you drop it if you drop it the airbag comes out, yeah. {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Yeah. No no no, not that comfy.
  User Interface: Yeah. {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Maybe it {disfmarker}
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: but then we have to look that it uh w uh will not um be too childish to see.
  Project Manager: Yeah yeah. Yeah. Okay, that's a that's a good point. And that's why I like the dark t col dark colour bit, you know, because it may be {disfmarker} the design uh, it's uh maybe it is a bit of the {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Yeah.
  User Interface: But not black I think.
  Project Manager: it's a bit nineties maybe, what we're what we're up to rat fun to this point.
  Marketing: No.
  User Interface: Well if if it's fruit and vegetables, it have to be colourful.
  Project Manager: Yeah, that's that's true, but but it has to be a little big solid.
  Marketing: Yeah, b yeah, that's what w I I was pointing at.
  User Interface: But can we ge uh uh {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: It mustn't be too, n you know, th too overwhelming, then when you put it on your {gap} just {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Can we combine it or something? Uh with uh yellow and black?
  Project Manager: Yeah. Yeah, maybe so.
  User Interface: Make it a bee? {vocalsound} A bee. {vocalsound}
  Marketing: What? Oh, a bee. Oh. {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: No, uh I don't like the yellow and black combination {gap}. But it is our company colours. Apparently. {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Yeah, {gap} it's our {disfmarker} yeah. We we have to use yellow.
  Industrial Designer: Yes, real real good colours. {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound} Yeah. Hmm.
  Industrial Designer: Hmm.
  Project Manager: I don't like yellow, and uh maybe {disfmarker} I don't know.
  Marketing: Well, we can as as I
  Industrial Designer: But that's not really fruity.
  Marketing: draw really nicely over there. {vocalsound} We can put the logo on our uh on our base station. Uh, yeah. And maybe very very tiny on the remote control itself.
  Project Manager: But {disfmarker}
  Marketing: But, i
  Project Manager: Okay, but what {disfmarker} uh, what are other tef technical things we have to discuss?
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Uh fronts of the {disfmarker} We can have uh different uh uh fronts of the
  Project Manager: Should we do that?
  Industrial Designer: telephone.
  Project Manager: I don't think you {disfmarker} we should do that. Maybe just bring it out in different colours,
  User Interface: Different fronts.
  Project Manager: but not af that you can switch fronts afterwards, that's also too much.
  Marketing: Yeah. I guess that's that's enough.
  Project Manager: People don't wanna spend more money on their remote {vocalsound} control, I guess.
  Marketing: That's way too Nokia.
  User Interface: Yeah. Uh, you can you can l uh let choose the customer which colour he wants, yeah.
  Industrial Designer: Are these designs?
  Project Manager: Yeah, yeah.
  Marketing: Yeah, definitely. Just bring more designs on the market.
  User Interface: Yeah, Three three or four uh four uh colours, or something like that.
  Project Manager: But uh, without {disfmarker} gon uh
  Marketing: Why not, yeah.
  Project Manager: okay. So, are we through the technical part then?
  Industrial Designer: Yes.
  Project Manager: Okay. So we uh agreed upon uh n uh well, not u unanimously or how you call it, but {disfmarker} Yeah.
  User Interface: Well, yeah,
  Industrial Designer: It {disfmarker} this a real uh young young and dynamic uh uh styles.
  User Interface: the {disfmarker} Three to one. {vocalsound} That's {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: The materials you uh mentioned in your your personal preferences were all {disfmarker} were quite okay.
  Industrial Designer: {gap} Yes.
  Project Manager: O o only only the last point your {disfmarker}
  User Interface: And tita uh titanium, is {disfmarker} uh is is it a no?
  Industrial Designer: Yes, {gap} {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: no titanium's not not out of question, I guess.
  User Interface: Is {disfmarker} It's just like that, th this titanium.
  Industrial Designer: But also w Yes, b bu but when we use s soft
  Project Manager: But is it possible to use both the the plastic and so uh soft things and t p titanium, as well?
  Industrial Designer: mm {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Sure.
  Project Manager: Makes it in a homogeneous uh design.
  Industrial Designer: Mm.
  User Interface: No, not all, not all of them.
  Industrial Designer: But it it {disfmarker} then it uh {disfmarker} you can't throw it it. It will uh make a huge noise or break other stuff
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} {vocalsound} It will it will break other stuff w {vocalsound} when it's plastic, as well.
  Industrial Designer: when you throw with uh titanium {disfmarker} {vocalsound} with your remote control.
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: No uh,
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} Yeah. {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: titanium is a bit uh it's a bit harder.
  Marketing: Yeah, that's true.
  Project Manager: No, but uh uh, you should ma Yeah.
  Industrial Designer: But also on the colours, the young {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Okay, think of the possibilities and make it in {disfmarker} completely titanium. Well would it be more trendy? More chic?
  Marketing: Yeah, I think it I think it does.
  User Interface: Uh, I think titanium nowadays is way more often used than plastic.
  Industrial Designer: Yes, but a titanium remote control, when you're uh watching T_V_ uh or your hands are a little bit sweaty, and the {disfmarker}
  User Interface: In trendy things.
  Marketing: Yeah, o On the other hand, if you want to make fruit {disfmarker} fruity stuff with uh {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Yeah. It's cold in the winter. {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Yeah, but I I really like the idea of the the the plastic and the big kind of thing.
  Industrial Designer: Yes. {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: But the question is i then it's, you know, is is {disfmarker} it fits in our s philosophy to make it uh sturdy and simple and uh, know, like uh {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Yeah.
  Marketing: Yeah, that's true, that's true.
  Industrial Designer: Sports and gaming. Define
  Project Manager: When you make it titanium, it becomes more like some kind of gadget you actually don't need. And when it's big and plastic, it's like some fun stuff you can always have around. It's always fun to have something big and plastic around.
  User Interface: You have that uh M_P_ three player of Nike, I saw.
  Marketing: Yes. Yeah.
  User Interface: Isn't that titanium with a little bit of rubber?
  Industrial Designer: Yes, it's w but it is uh plastic.
  User Interface: Isn't it {disfmarker} Is plastic? Well, it's titanium looking.
  Industrial Designer: Yes, w we can do that on the on the {disfmarker}
  Marketing: What?
  User Interface: Yeah, he is. Here he is. Uh, the {disfmarker} I don't know if you know the M_P_ three player of Nike.'Kay, uh that that's very uh with rubber, so it's very
  Marketing: Oh, yeah. Okay, yeah.
  Project Manager: {gap} Yeah, that's beautiful.
  Marketing: Yeah, I see.
  Industrial Designer: We can make this as a style too.
  Marketing: Yeah, but but but {disfmarker}
  User Interface: rough.
  Industrial Designer: Uh, this is uh just a {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Oh, maybe th maybe this is an {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Yeah, I th I think that's difficult, because uh that's different material, and then you gotta have like uh uh uh two material lines of of of {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: No, we c we can make it from the same kind of plastic.
  Marketing: Yeah, if it's just a colour uh which you uh which you change then, I guess it's it's nice to have one of these.
  Project Manager: No, I do like the idea of maybe a t titanium kind {disfmarker} type of body w and then with s plastic colouration {gap} around it.
  Industrial Designer: Uh {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Uh {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: You know, like the the soft stuff,
  Marketing: Yeah.
  Project Manager: but I don't know if it's possible.
  Industrial Designer: I don't have the information. Uh, I I didn't got it {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: But you can't make the plastic give uh the ti titanium look.
  User Interface: {vocalsound} True.
  Industrial Designer: Yes.
  Project Manager: But make it just like shiny.
  Marketing: Mm-hmm.
  User Interface: Yeah yeah, true.
  Project Manager: Maybe we should uh shou
  Industrial Designer: Like the M_P_ three player.
  User Interface: Yeah, maybe that's good idea, yeah. But if you want to la uh yeah, last longer than two weeks or something like that, you can maybe {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Yeah.
  Project Manager: And uh and
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: maybe we sh should we t {gap} I don't know if we should talk about {disfmarker} uh, how how much time have we got left?
  Industrial Designer: Uh, in a lot of other uh
  User Interface: I don't know.
  Project Manager: Forty minutes.
  User Interface: What time does {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: in a lot of other product uh categories like uh even in b in bags industry. Uh, they began with uh t typical uh leather bags, but then they became stylish, with all all si all sort of colours, and w kind of fon {disfmarker} of uh of fronts, like we can use on the telephone and it {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Yeah.
  Project Manager: Okay.
  Industrial Designer: Like Eastpack uh began a revolution with it with all this uh kind of bags and and colours and and {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: {gap} You putting in different colours.
  Industrial Designer: Yes, and and styles.
  Project Manager: Okay.
  Industrial Designer: They have uh also uh a kind of uh um uh roses on it, a and uh {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Uh yeah, yeah.
  Project Manager: Okay. Yeah, but w yeah.
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} Well, it is. It's a possibility. But, let's think about the bas
  Industrial Designer: Then we can always uh use the same design for a greater resemblance, but with new uh with new colours, new {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Yes. New prints on it. Yep.
  Project Manager: Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
  Industrial Designer: yes.
  Project Manager: But wha th our basic idea {disfmarker} y I mean, you gonna {disfmarker} we're probably gonna have like two type of materials, like the d d b the plastic uh enclosure and then the the pads that surround it. And and pro and lights. We have to incorporate the lights too. But, uh do w gonna {gap} gonna {disfmarker} are we going to give it a two-tone colour look, like the the plastic mould is in in one colour and the s the cushion pads around it are in another colour? Is that the idea? Is that a good idea?
  Marketing: How do you mean? Th th the uh base in a in another {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: How many colours are we {disfmarker} how many colours are we gonna {disfmarker} we're uh uh f uh f
  User Interface: The rubber.
  Project Manager: Only five minutes left, by the way. How many colours are we gonna give it?
  Marketing: Yes.
  Project Manager: Like two-tone colour? T
  Industrial Designer: There there are three uh components three components type.
  User Interface: Yeah. Uh no, not too much I think.
  Industrial Designer: You have the buttons, the the case uh itself, and the rubber and th
  Marketing: How the buttons {disfmarker} yeah.
  Project Manager: I think maybe the case itself should be in one colour and then the rubber of the buttons, {vocalsound} and the cushions as well should be in another colour.
  Industrial Designer: Yes.
  User Interface: Or you just make uh one colour, uh maybe with a a z a kind of like a big wave or something like uh {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Yeah.
  Project Manager: Okay, but not more than {disfmarker}
  User Interface: In in another colour.
  Project Manager: Well, yeah, it's {gap} {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Not more than two colours I think.
  Project Manager: No.
  User Interface: It's a g a little bit too flashy.
  Marketing: No, definitely not.
  Project Manager: Maybe we should talk about it on a l in a later meeting.
  Industrial Designer: Yeah, or or when you use the buttons as black, it {disfmarker} you can use two colours as well uh {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Yes, definitely.
  Project Manager: Okay. But we have to uh think of some other uh important things.
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Uh {disfmarker} oh yeah, the the functionalities of the the buttons.
  User Interface: The funct yeah, I was I was thinking about th the st do we still want a joystick idea.
  Project Manager: No. {vocalsound}
  Marketing: No, I think that's too vulnerable.
  Project Manager: I think this is okay,
  User Interface: Yeah.
  Project Manager: the {disfmarker} so we have the basic. Then we have the numbers. We have the power button. We have we have a teletext button.
  User Interface: The volume, teletext and {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: And maybe want to access a a menu or something. Most T_V_s have a menu.
  Marketing: Yeah, but that's that's {disfmarker} I was thinking that's gotta be on the television.
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Yeah, but I think you ha I really need a menu button.
  User Interface: Yeah yeah yeah yeah, b
  Project Manager: That's just i the only button {disfmarker} only {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Yeah, but wha what kind of menu?
  Project Manager: You know, I {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Is uh {disfmarker} isn't that different from every television?
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} No, I think most T_V_s have an uh a menu nowadays to access the uh uh screen settings. And so {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Mm. {vocalsound} Yeah, if it's c if {disfmarker} Yeah, I think it's okay to to add a menu button for uh {disfmarker}
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: But that that covers all the all the other settings. It covers everything then.
  Marketing: and if the T_V_ doesn't have a menu, then {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: But then you have to put uh up and down and uh left and right {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Yeah.
  Project Manager: No, you can use the {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Yeah, you can put that on the two eight four and six or whatever.
  Project Manager: And you al can also use the normal skip buttons for that.
  Industrial Designer: Okay.
  Project Manager: Th in that way we have like only the numbers, the power button, skip and volume, and then uh uh ten uh rem
  Marketing: Mm, yeah. A mute and a teletext and a menu.
  Project Manager: uh yeah, mute. A teletext and a menu, and then then i that's it.
  User Interface: Mute.
  Project Manager: It's all we need.
  Marketing: That's all.
  User Interface: Yeah.
  Marketing: Hmm.
  Project Manager: Okay, uh another stuf some stuff {vocalsound} about the the the design of the docking station.
  Marketing: Great. Yeah.
  User Interface: Okay, that's not mu not much functions. So {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Something important about a s uh, no, uh which sh uh should remind us of the remote itself, I guess.
  Marketing: Yeah, definitely.
  Project Manager: Uh, in one colour.
  Marketing: Are we gonna do something with the uh spongy thing there?
  Project Manager: Just use {disfmarker} I think the spongy thing already um comes forward in the in the in the cushions, pads and things on the s uh side.
  Industrial Designer: Uh {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Yeah, that's true, that's true.
  Project Manager: And we will make it spongy and {disfmarker} and uh and uh well, the fruity thing is just the shape should be fru i did {disfmarker} I think this is kind of fruity, you know. Just round shapes with uh {disfmarker}
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Yeah, it's kinda fruity, and with th with catchy colours uh uh w
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} Yeah, but we're gonna have to {disfmarker} we really have to think {disfmarker} I think colours is very important, because it has to be flashy, but {disfmarker} and but it d it doesn't have to be annoying, that when you uh, know, some things is just over the top, and when you have it on your table for more than two weeks, you {disfmarker} {gap} it just gets annoying, because it's so big and flashy.
  Marketing: Yeah, definitely.
  Project Manager: Uh, it has to be some level of subtlety, but we have to {disfmarker} still have to think of how we manage to uh to get to that.
  Marketing: Yeah.
  Project Manager: Okay. Guess we're through then.
  Marketing: Okay.
  User Interface: Okay.
  Marketing: I guess so.
  Project Manager: But we {disfmarker} I think also we just {disfmarker} so we have to do something with colour but also, I I think we have to keep the dark colour thing in mind. I think that's uh adds to the {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Yeah.
  Marketing: Yes.
  Project Manager: too much colour maybe m um {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Too much colour, i it uh {disfmarker} when you got it in a living room, it's too much maybe
  Project Manager: But our des design experts will uh work that out.
  Marketing: Yea yeah.
  User Interface: . It has to be {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Okay, well I think the meeting will be over within a minute.
  User Interface: Yeah.
  Marketing: Yep.
  Project Manager: So we will wrap up.
  Marketing: Something like that.
  Project Manager: Or is there anything we'd like to discuss? That's right.
  Marketing: I guess not.
  Project Manager: Okay.
  Marketing: Do you, guys?
  User Interface: No.
  Marketing: No?
  Project Manager: Okay. Well, you will read the minutes uh in the {disfmarker} you can find them in the {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Oh, okay, yeah.
  Marketing: In the shared folder.
  Project Manager: pro probably. Yeah {disfmarker} uh no, for su for sure because I'm will now type them out.
  Industrial Designer: What are we going to do now?
  Project Manager: Uh, y yeah.
  Marketing: You'll see in you email, I guess.
  User Interface: Yeah.
  Project Manager: I think uh {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know.
  User Interface: {vocalsound} I hope so. And the other thing is that you don't have kind of prototype or something like that. You see a kinda prototype you can {disfmarker} a little bit more uh {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: I will make one in the next uh twenty minutes. {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Yeah. {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound} Construct one, yeah.
  Project Manager: But {gap} toilet paper roll and uh {disfmarker}
  User Interface: With you laptop? {vocalsound} Yeah. {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Okay.
  User Interface: Oh my God.
  Marketing: Alright, shall we get back to work?
  Project Manager: Yep. I was waiting for the l last message, but {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Great.
  User Interface: Well you are. We're not.
  Marketing: Yeah. {vocalsound} Bastard.
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Back to the pen.
  Project Manager: Mm yeah.
  Marketing: You lazy {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
output: Marketing indicated the three most important findings: fancy look-and-feel, innovative technology, and high ease of use. As the fruits and vegetable theme and sponge material remained trendy that year, the group turned to discuss how to combine the fancy themes with the design and find a proper balance between the elder market and the young market, the specific topics including the color design, the possibility of related symbol and pictures, and the location of business logo.