This book was just okay for me, at times I just completely lost concentration and started thinking about stuff, whilst there was all these discussions on the back ground. I listened to this on audio (redundancy?) and though the narrator was brilliant with all the voices, but at times it just got a bit boring. It was grim and depressing a lot of the time, as the world was a grim and depressing place, so whilst there was some highlights in the story, it didn't completely capture my attention. Still enough for a three star rating, because the world building and characters were excellent, but the overall story telling stops it from being a four.