Ghost black holes could be PROOF of universe BEFORE our own When you subscribe we will use the information you provide to send you these newsletters. Sometimes they'll include recommendations for other related newsletters or services we offer. Our Privacy Notice explains more about how we use your data, and your rights. You can unsubscribe at any time. What existed before the Big Bang has long been a subject of scientists and the layman but a group of theoretical physicists believe they may have the answer. They believe remnants of black holes which existed in a universe before ours came to fruition can be picked up in the electromagnetic radiation which is ever present throughout the universe. This radiation – more commonly known as the cosmic microwave background (CMB), the leftover radiation from the Big Bang – contains energy from ‘phantom’ black holes that existed before our universe. Black holes are arguably one of the most intense and powerful things in the universe.<doc-sep>This story was updated on Aug. 23 at 9:20 a.m. E.T. We are not living in the first universe. There were other universes, in other eons, before ours, a group of physicists has said. Like ours, these universes were full of black holes. And we can detect traces of those long-dead black holes in the cosmic microwave background (CMB) — the radiation that is a remnant of our universe's violent birth. At least, that's the somewhat eccentric view of the group of theorists, including the prominent Oxford University mathematical physicist Roger Penrose (also an important Stephen Hawking collaborator). Penrose and his acolytes argue for a modified version of the Big Bang. In Penrose and similarly-inclined physicists' history of space and time (which they call conformal cyclic cosmology, or CCC), universes bubble up, expand and die in sequence, with black holes from each leaving traces in the universes that follow. And in a new paper released Aug. 6 in the preprint journal arXiv, Penrose, along with State University of New York Maritime College mathematician Daniel An and University of Warsaw theoretical physicist Krzysztof Meissner, argued that those traces are visible in existing data from the CMB. An explained how these traces form and survive from one eon to the next. [What's That? Your Physics Questions Answered] "If the universe goes on and on and the black holes gobble up everything, at a certain point, we're only going to have black holes," he told Live Science. According to Hawking's most famous theory, black holes slowly lose some of their mass and energy over time through radiation of massless particles called gravitons and photons. If this Hawking radiation exists, "then what's going to happen is that these black holes will gradually, gradually shrink." At a certain point, those black holes would disintegrate entirely, An said, leaving the universe a massless soup of photons and gravitons. "The thing about this period of time is that massless gravitons and photons don't really experience time or space," he said. Gravitons and photons, massless light speed travelers, don't experience time and space the same way we — and all the other massive, slower-moving objects in the universe— do. Einstein's theory of relativity dictates that objects with mass seem to move through time slower as they approach the speed of light, and distances become skewed from their perspective. Massless objects like photons and gravitons travel at the speed of light, so they don't experience time or distance at all. So, a universe filled with only gravitons or photons will not have any sense of what is time or what is space," An said. At that point, some physicists (including Penrose) argue, the vast, empty, post-black-hole universe starts to resemble the ultra-compressed universe at the moment of the big bang, where there's no time or distance between anything. "And then it starts all over again," An said. So, if the new universe contains none of the black holes from the previous universe, how could those black holes leave traces in the CMB? Penrose said that the traces aren't of the black holes themselves, but rather of the billions of years those objects spent putting energy out into their own universe via Hawking radiation. "It's not the black hole's singularity," or it's actual, physical body, he told Live Science, "but the… entire Hawking radiation of the hole throughout its history." Here's what that means: All the time a black hole spent dissolving itself via Hawking radiation leaves a mark. And that mark, made in the background radiation frequencies of space, can survive the death of a universe. If researchers could spot that mark, then the scientists would have reason to believe that CCC vision of the universe is right, or at least not definitely wrong . To spot that faint mark against the already faint, muddled radiation of the CMB, An said, he ran a kind of statistical tournament among patches of sky. An took circular regions in the third of the sky where galaxies and starlight don't overwhelm the CMB. Next, he highlighted areas where the distribution of the microwave frequencies match what would be expected if Hawking points exist. He had those circles "compete" with one another, he said, to determine which area most nearly matched the expected spectrums of Hawking points. Then, he compared that data with fake CMB data he randomly generated. This trick was meant to rule out the possibility that those tentative "Hawking points" could have formed if the CMB were entirely random. If the randomly generated CMB data couldn't mimic those Hawking points, that would strongly suggest that the newly-identified Hawking points were indeed from black holes of eons past. This isn't the first time that Penrose has put out a paper appearing to identify Hawking points from a past universe. Back in 2010, he published a paper with the physicist Vahe Gurzadyan that made a similar claim. That publication sparked criticism from other physicists, failing to convince the scientific community writ large. Two follow-up papers (here and here) argued that the evidence of Hawking points Penrose and Gurzadyan identified was in fact the result of random noise in their data. Still, Penrose presses forward. (The physicist has also famously argued, without convincing many neuroscientists, that human consciousness is the result of quantum computing.) Asked whether the black holes from our universe might someday leave traces in the universe of the next eon, Penrose responded, "Yes, indeed!" Editor's note: An earlier version of this story referred to the CMB as "radioactive." It is radiation, but it is not radioactive. The story has been corrected. Originally published on Live Science.<doc-sep>
A group of researchers say they have identified the remnants of black holes from another universe which existed before our own. In a paper published on the pre-print server arXiv.org, a team led by the renowned physicist and mathematician Roger Penrose from the University of Oxford, argue that signs of these black holes can be detected in the faint radiation left over from the Big Bang which is found throughout the entire universe, known as the cosmic microwave background (CMB), LiveScience reports. Their new work is based on a controversial but fascinating idea known as conformal cyclic cosmology (CCC) which is an attempt to explain the fate and history of the universe. This model, first proposed by Penrose in 2010, states that the universe is actually made up of a series of universes which go through infinite cycles. The big bang of each of these universes has its origin in the remote future of the previous one, so essentially, when one ends, a new one begins, according to the Penrose Institute. When this happens, "imprints" of the black holes in a preceding universe will remain in the next universe and we can actually detect them, according to the CCC model. In the 1970s, Stephen Hawking made a famous prediction that black holes expend energy via electromagnetic radiation. The mass and energy of black holes is gradually reduced by this "Hawking radiation," meaning that those which do not gain mass by other means will shrink and eventually die (although the time it would take for a black hole to completely dissapear is many, many times longer than the current age of the universe.) The new paper suggests that the Hawking radiation created by evaporating black holes at the end of a universe will leave behind a signature that survives into the next universe in the form of "Hawking points"—individual energy sources, hidden in the cosmic background radiation. The researchers examined a map of the cosmic microwave background in the early universe created by operators of the BICEP2 South Pole telescope, in addition to data collected by the European Space Agency's Planck space probe, which showed strange swirls of polarized light in the CMB. Initially, other scientists said that these swirls could be explained by gravitational waves—ripples in space-time—produced by the universe's expansion or interstellar dust. But the authors of the latest paper suggest that these anomalous, point-like, primordial energy sources in the very early universe are very likely to be the Hawking points predicted by the CCC model. These points are very difficult to detect because they are very faint and the CMB varies randomly. It is important to note that these findings are still very speculative and have not been widely accepted by the scientific community, Forbes reports. Because the CMB varies so much, many argue that the Hawking points could be explained by "noise" in the data or other factors. Furthermore, the BICEP2 team has yet to release the data behind the map that the authors used to make their calculations, meaning the picture could change. But if the claims do turn out to be true—something that would require extraordinary evidence—it would bolster the case for the CCC model of the universe and revolutionize our current understanding of the cosmos.