"Hardly, indeed."
"The English people, or some of them,--that some being the richest, and, at present, the most powerful,--like to play at having a Church, though there is not sufficient faith in them to submit to the control of a Church."
"Do you think men should be controlled by clergymen, Mr. Barham?"
"In matters of faith I do; and so, I suppose, do you; at least you make that profession. You declare it to be your duty to submit yourself to your spiritual pastors and masters."
"That, I thought, was for children," said Lady Carbury. "The clergyman, in the catechism, says, 'My good child.'"
"It is what you were taught as a child before you had made profession of your faith to a bishop, in order that you might know your duty when you had ceased to be a child. I quite agree, however, that the matter, as viewed by your Church, is childish altogether, and intended only for children. As a rule, adults with you want no religion."

English people like to play at having a Church, though they have not sufficient faith to submit to a Church's control."
"Do you think men should be controlled by clergymen, Mr. Barham?"
"In matters of faith I do; and so, I suppose, do you; at least you declare it to be your duty to submit yourself to your spiritual pastors."
"That, I thought, was for children," said Lady Carbury.
"I quite agree that the matter, as viewed by your Church, is childish altogether. As a rule, adults in your Church want no religion."
