Mike Pence was overheard referring to wife Karen Pence as "Mother." One, perhaps, is that they reminded me of rural progenitors born in the 1800s." “We will soon find ourselves in the mother of all constitutional crises … When [Vice President] Mike Pence becomes president, which I believe that he will become, the media business goes into a deep depression,” Wolff said. Arnold’s former aide, Michelle Moody, said that while she couldn’t confirm the context of the conversation, "I do know that Pence referred to his wife as ‘mother’ several times during the dinner." But according to a former Democratic lawmaker who sat next to the governor at one of the dinners, Pence himself seemed to indicate "Mother" was more of an enduring moniker rather than an isolated reference. ‘Mother, Mother’ 
 
 On the evening of March 12, 2013, seven Democratic lawmakers from the Indiana Legislature arrived at the governor’s mansion in Indianapolis for dinner with the Pences. "The leader of the Democrats was sitting next to me on my right side, and I looked at him and I said, ‘He called his wife f------ 'Mother'!’ " 
 
 A group photo of the Democratic guests on the evening when then-Indiana Gov. But a few minutes later, Pence shouted again. Could you tell us who's china we're eating on this evening?’ And she responded by saying, ‘Yes, this belonged to (former Indiana Gov. “The press corps over there, the Washington political reporters, they do a different thing than I do,” he said with a touch of arrogance. “They are all very resentful that I got this story and I made all this money.” 
 
 What Wolff did was observe the administration at work for seven months. He’s faceless.” 
 
 A nonchalant Wolff delivered the news, while basking in the success of his colorful, bestselling book that describes Trump’s dysfunctional White House. "It was just kind of comical.
– Fire and Fury author Michael Wolff had some amusing tidbits to share about the VP during an appearance at the Cannes Lions advertising festival Monday, Quartz reports. While President Trump sells books—Fire and Fury, which details his first nine months as POTUS, is still a bestseller after being released in January—Mike Pence, not so much. "When Mike Pence becomes the president—which I believe that he will become—the media business goes into a deep depression," Wolff predicted. "Mike Pence is literally the most boring man on earth." Wolff predicts Pence will get a job promotion due to Trump being booted from office, the New York Post reports. Wolff went on to say that Pence is "faceless" even at work: "Even in the White House they only talk about Pence’s wife. Mother, she is called." Jeff Goodby, the ad agency cofounder onstage with Wolff, asked whether Pence really calls his wife "Mother." Wolff's response: "Everyone in the White House calls her Mother." Rolling Stone first reported back in 2017 that Pence refers to wife Karen as "Mother." Politifact has since spoken to a number of people who say they've witnessed him calling her that, but since the site couldn't find "video or other documentary evidence," it has not rated the claim as true.