The (possible) final point of this debate was put by [1]}: as well as demonstrating that no differences are found between fossils and non-fossils in their sample of 10 groups and clusters observed with specific Suzaku follow up, they recomputed the luminosities of the FGs from [2]} and [3]} in a homogeneous way. In the right panel of Fig. REF  we show the relation presented in [1]}. The authors concluded that the discrepancies in the literature can be reconciled if X-ray and optical luminosities were computed using the same bands and radii, pointing out that many differences could be due not only to the low statistics but also the lack of homogeneous datasets.
