And when I have conversations with people, I remember having a conversation, for example, in Iraq, with a community that asked me whether the riot we were seeing in front of us, this was a huge mob ransacking a provincial council building, was a sign of the new democracy.
Y cuando hablo con la gente, recuerdo, por ejemplo, una conversación en Irak, con una comunidad que me preguntaba si los disturbios que veíamos al frente, —una gran multitud saqueando un edificio provincial— eran el signo de la nueva democracia.