NT: I've been doing this work for about 25 years, one way or another, in direct services at first and then in the policy work that Vera does and you know, I admit that I have seen in the past five or six years that this has become sort of a cause célèbre and people have gotten excited about it.
NT: Me he dedicado a este trabajo por 25 años, de una forma u otra, primero con servicios directos, luego con el labor política que hace Vera y sabes, confieso que he visto en los últimos cinco o seis años que se ha convertido en una causa célebre y la gente se ha vuelto interesada.