

Yes, it is pathetically true  I managed to exceed the wiki limits with my archive and page and it is now split into pieces.  These are the older comments.


This is pulled from Users/JabberWokkys comments


20041214 07:01:32 nbsp I fixed {{{RandomQuote}}} to work right.  Just so you know thats why its displaying nonweirdly.  Users/PhilipNeustrom

20041214 18:27:52 nbsp Is your location updater using the Wireless internet at the place or do you have to do it by hand?  Thats pretty sweet!  I can filter the updates to that page out of Recent Changes if you want (might be cool if you use it a lot?)  Users/PhilipNeustrom

20041214 18:43:49 nbsp Its a bash script that checks the SSID and uses that to determine location.  It can also be called with a set of keywords for other locations (to override the SSID detect).  Im likely going to turn it into a nice library so it can be used to automatically update anything on the wiki (WAP interface for breaking news?  Who knows...)   Users/JabberWokky

20041215 11:27:03 nbsp Thanks for the heads up.  I made it not dump an error but it still doesnt work just right.  Mikell likely fix it because he knows the Recent Changes stuff better than I.  Users/PhilipNeustrom

20041216 15:04:50 nbsp hey, could you revert The THE Controversy to my version?  I think on pages with just discussion that a comment box ends up marginalizing the structure?  Users/PhilipNeustrom

20041216 15:10:43 nbsp The Location Updater is insanely great.  Can you do a writeup about what you did?  Users/MikeIvanov

20041216 15:29:57 nbsp Philip  I was editing the page when you saved yours, I believe.  I was trying to figure out what you had added (in terms of comments).  No problem  Ill revert the format and insert my comment.  Users/JabberWokky

20041216 15:31:35 nbsp MikeIvanov  No problem.  Its a bash script calling curl, which means you need OSX or Linux.  Once you have it, the only hard part is getting your MoinMoin key from your cookies.  Users/JabberWokky

20041217 22:17:23 nbsp Jabber, you should put a picture up! We know where you are at any minute of the day but we dont even know what you look like.  Users/JackHaskel

20041228 00:49:50 nbsp hey, thanks for hosting my song, the power chord ballad of the turtle. im sure your server has crashed a million times already due to the web traffic it has caused. Users/RaynatoCastro

20050112 09:23:02 nbsp The GSA is a nationwide organization, with chapters in high schools across the country. Users/BevSykes

20050115 23:53:25 nbsp It is possible that theres something wrong with the search, as I rebuilt the index this morning.  However, everything seemed to match up perfectly after the database was rebuilt (e.g. the number of pages indexed was the same as the number of pages in the wiki).  Let me know if there is a specific problem instance.  (I dont remember there being a Hings page until today) Users/PhilipNeustrom

20050121 13:33:43 nbsp thanks for reverting wiki ethics. Youre my hero! Users/CaptainRush

20050121 14:19:49 nbsp     Could very well be a lie too. Square brackets are a widely recognized way to delimit editorial comments made after the fact. Spelling corrections and simple rewordings can really help. Changing the meaning will likely engender resentment, mistrust and misunderstanding. When in doubt dont make the change.  If you are sure that a change will not change the meaning then I see fixing spelling and grammar as being courteous.  Changing the meaning is always bad.  Users/PhilipNeustrom

20050121 17:03:24 nbsp I was very very very wary of any changes to that particular page.  I also think that grammar and spelling mistakes carry information about the person you are speaking with.  If I see a very unlikely fact, I am much more inclined to believe the person who says I am certain that is true; I witnessed it myself versus d00d! u r 5m0k1n!! Eye 5aw 1T HAPPENZEZEZ!!!1!11oneoneone.  This is only in cases where you are dealing directly with a tree of comments, otherwise, correct away.  Keep in mind, I reverted to a mistake of mine.  At any rate, Im not rabid about this issue and Im perfectly content to leave the rereversion alone, but now you know my rationale. Users/JabberWokky

20050121 18:16:25 nbsp I see what youre saying.  Its not cutanddry, definitely.  But if the text is attributed and is an important part of the page then it only makes good readabilitysense to have it spelled/grammarered properly. Users/PhilipNeustrom

20050121 18:25:22 nbsp Sorry if I edited a comment. Was it embeded in the text of a page? I purposely did not correct any misspelling I saw a name attatched to. Users/AmeliaCarlson

20050124 13:50:27 nbsp JabberWocky, I know that this isnt UCDavis only. My edit comment on Hotels was a reminder to the other contributers that this site doesnt just concern students. Users/KenBloom

20050210 12:00:47 nbsp are you sure about that crop dusting fact (that pesticides are harmless)? Im sure the MSDS incudes all sorts of precautions such as do not spray on humans. theres a reason farm workers wear long pants, long shirts, gloves, hats and bandanas. Users/ArlenAbraham

20050211 00:54:12 nbsp Arlen  For long term exposure, yes.  Dental xrays are harmless to the patient.  But the dentist or tech who takes 16 to 20 a day have to walk around behind a lead lined wall to avoid exposure.  Unless youre getting dusted on a daily basis, its not going to cause instant death.  Or even slow death. Users/JabberWokky

20050222 00:31:09 nbsp as awesome as that location thing is, im just kinda creeped out knowing that youve just turned on your computer in dixon. Users/ArlenAbraham

20050222 01:39:53 nbsp I really really need to document and upload that puppy for general use.  Theres a Wiki ID code that needs to be fished out of your browser, and thats the only tricky bit.  I need to write something to pull it automatically (youd have to enter your Wiki username and password once).  I wrote it so it would work on both Linux and OSX. Users/JabberWokky

20050226 19:41:10 nbsp I think its cool that you watch Father Ted!...Im not a fascist.  Im a priest.  Fascists dress up in black and tell people what to do.  Whereas priests...More drink! Users/MiriamKaufman

20050321 00:39:23 nbsp Thanks much for the changes on Cost Plus World Market. Youll probably see other arguments like this from me (bias makes me batty). Ill add a comment when I get to it. :) SS

20050321 01:55:15 nbsp Sorry, never read Lovecraft myself.  I took the spelling from the wikipedia.  Personally I find C. a little scary  kinda drives me crazy.  Except in plushie form  stuffed Cthulhus are so cute. Users/BrentLaabs

20050322 12:00:34 nbsp jw, what the fuck is going on? Users/ArlenAbraham
   No worries  somebody ran a goofy script to mess with the site.  I banned the user, called Users/MikeIvanov Mike, who banned the IP, and a bunch of really cool users like Users/AmeliaCarlson all got together and undid the damage.  The impressive part is not what he did, but how everybody came together and fixed it by hand faster than he did the damage with a script.  Users/JabberWokky jw

20050322 12:15:02 nbsp No problemo, just glad I happened to be on when Users/RobertMorris he started the edting; I dont think he realized it wasnt only making pages wider but screwing with images etc... (or else hell be back to finish the rest of the alphabet.) Users/AmeliaCarlson
   I caught him when he was in the Cs and blocked him.  Thanks for all the revert work.  Right now theres no tool to undo a users mass changes.  Users/PhilipNeustrom is now working on one.  In the meantime, you wield a mighty mouse... thanks for all the work reverting the damage.  Users/JabberWokky jw

20050322 15:22:09 nbsp who the hell was robert morris Users/JimSchwab
   Doesnt matter.  Hes done.    Users/JabberWokky jw

20050322 15:36:58 nbsp Do you actually play the violin? SS
   Yes.  And I just got a new one today.  Interesting timing to ask me that.  I am very rusty, having not played in about two years, but Sarah and I just got two new violins for her to learn on and myself to get caught back up on.  There are people who genuinely like my guitar (Ive played guitar in a few bands), and Ive been told that I have a pretty good singing voice (Ive... uhh... played guitar in a few bands), and Ive ben threatening to show up at Roma on Thursday one of the days.   Users/JabberWokky jw
  I could trade guitar lessons for violin lessons. Or you could just pay me. :) Actually, could you IM me? I cant find you on yahoo IM and do not know your AIM name. SS

20050323 18:09:09 nbsp Hey Evan, whats up with the nospace pages like TitleIndex and FindPage?  If theyre defined in the markup, we should just change the markup.  As it is, theyre mostly duplicates of actual pages, such as Title Index, etc.  They should be deleted.  Let me know what you think. Users/MikeIvanov
   Replied to your page.

20050323 18:31:07 nbsp That appears to be a lie. Users/MikeIvanov
   Darn past tense.

20050324 09:34:37 nbsp Were looking for an apartment in Davis.  Is The Arbors loud because of the freeway and train tracks? Thanks! Users/MonicaWilliams
   Im second row in from the tracks.  I cant really hear the freeway at all.  If I open my window, I can hear the trains, but with the window closed, you can only hear the train horns (which applies pretty much anywhere in town even fairly close to the tracks).  It is certainly not loud in my opinion.

20050327 13:22:00 nbsp you sound quite interesting :) Users/MarieHuynh
   Only when playing fluglehorn.  Otherwise, I am as boring as the number 8.2  Very boring number that... all not quite 8, but not sure I want to be 9, easily expressed in both a fraction and decimal.  Very mundane indeed.

20050329 18:39:07 nbsp That is an amazing rosemary shot! Actually, its the image of the bee that really blows me away. You must have a steady hand and a fast digital camera. Users/AlphaDog

20050403 11:06:02 nbsp JW, i went through and changed all the wikipedia and wikiwiki links to interwiki links. i didnt necessarily agree with all of them, i just changed them. i know that overlinking to other wikis is a bad idea, but valuable in some aspects. rather than controversy i think we should name the section what not to do. thoughts? Users/ArlenAbraham
   I actually like the interwiki links, and think they are a very good idea.  Im just trying to be the brakes on something that could get way out of control.  When I went through and removed a bunch of them, it was surgical, not a sweeping action.  I also created stubs for some of the links (in places where it would be better to have local pages rather than link to Wikipedia pages).  In others, I reproduced the content, but with a DavisWiki focus.   Users/JabberWokky

20050403 11:08:55 nbsp p.s. if you got one of http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS5204496011.html these implanted, your tracker could track you instead of your laptop. creepy. Users/ArlenAbraham
   I have an iPaq with Linux on it.  Ive thought about that.  Much more useful would be the first step to that  using my GPS and laptop and mapping the open WiFi APs in town with a chart for signal strength.  Its on my backburner TODO list.  Users/JabberWokky

20050405 00:05:30 nbsp its a franchise so im not going to lose my job over this. And if they do ask my boss to fire me, well then Ill sue like mad. And they got some deep pockets in vermont. Users/RobRoy

20050406 15:11:42 nbsp Wombat was a Wombat long before we became addicted to In A Fix,  I swear! Users/SummerSong

20050410 22:10:24 nbsp Happy 1000!!! Users/RobRoy

20050412 18:32:57 nbsp 1000 edits!  congrats!  pretty soon now youll be catching up to Users/PhilipNeustrom.  Hail Eris! Users/BrentLaabs

20050418 00:26:51 nbsp JW, just so you know. Every girl who I know, when asked about Sigma Chi, calls it the date rape frat. I dont know how it started but even people on GASC have said it. But you are TOTALLY right in that there should be proof but this is an awkward topic. Well see how this goes. At least it is getting more people using the wiki, even if it is just to defend their frat Users/RobRoy

20050418 11:50:56 nbsp I wasnt making accusations, rather poiting out that the frat is known as the date rape frat. i dont know if the name is deserved, but i for sure will stand behind the name being given. Users/ArlenAbraham
  Im perfectly happy with the commentary and think that if such things are being said, they should be mentioned in the entry.  Id be against removing it.  I just didnt want it to appear a casual slam page, but rather an entry about the frat that contains some serious charges.  jw

20050418 17:27:55 nbsp Thanks for the vote of support! It will be interesting to see if and what others decide to contribute. Hopefully it will be a good learning point. Users/AlphaDog

20050420 10:58:01 nbsp Can you link the article pointing out the fraud aspect of the Wendys finger story? I read something suggestive, but not definitive.  Users/CraigBrozinsky
   Yeah  suggestive only, as they have not made an official we are are focusing our investigation on the theory of... statement.  AFAIK, there is no official statement, but the actions of the investigators are focusing on searching her house and questioning her friends and neighbors, and thus it is a reasonable assumption.  I reworded it slightly to make it more clear which are facts versus which are conclusions.  jw

20050503 08:01:00 nbsp I have an appointment with Student Judicial Affairs on Wednesday.  I just assume that SJA contacted me because of the Aggie, because their Marketing Director threatened to have me arrested.  However, it could be about something totally unrelated  I really dont know, as I havent done anything immoral or harmful lately. Users/BrentLaabs

20050518 13:29:04 nbsp Good afternoon! The price on the Moller Skycar was from the FAQ on their website. Thinkin about putting a deposit on one??  ; ) Users/AlphaDog

20050519 10:20:52 nbsp Great Job on the city council!! I was saving that for summer break, now I can just edit!! Users/JimSchwab

20050519 10:55:05 nbsp All of those former city council members are orphans.... Users/JackHaskel

20050519 11:02:17 nbsp Morning! After I did all the asmundson links and research, I thought Id just put cross references in the ones that I was pretty sure about and figured Id do the fullon research in the next day or so. If you look at the city of davis link I included on the vigfus asmundson page, youll likely find the references needed to follow up on the stubs I created... just dont have time to do the search right now. Feel free to revert if they make you uncomfortable and Ill doubtlesss get back to them soon. Users/AlphaDog

20050519 18:49:37 nbsp pragmatically, i probably wont be able to, but in the event i can bring back Dunkin Donuts from a trip this weekend, whats your favorite type? Users/CraigBrozinsky

20050520 21:35:02 nbsp Glad to add the marker contents, I only hope I didnt make a transcription error. Ill try to get a decent photo of it later, my photos of it have bad lighting. Users/JasonAller

20050523 14:17:52 nbsp Sorry for the late reply... just saw your comment on feeding the ducks today. Heres are a couple refs re ducks & susceptibility to fungal problems, though I dont think either were the ref I used when I posted the comment http://www.wires.org.au/docs/let_nature_feed_itself.pdf http://www.liveducks.com/bread.html. While its true that small amounts of bread in the diet are probably fine though nutritionally questionable, in park settings I think you get a lot of people tossing bread of questionable quality in the water and in volumes that end up growing in already skanky water. There will prob always be those who insist that they fed the ducks as a kid and none of em ever died, but the dangers should still be pointed out nonetheless. My 2 Users/AlphaDog

20050613 12:31:33 nbsp Your answers to the music final are making me cause a disturbance in the computer lab theyre so funny. Users/JackHaskel

20050614 13:10:29 nbsp yes i knew about undeleting deleted pages, and i did that with the page, i just wanted to give arlen a little heat, is that so wrong? :) Users/MichelleAccurso

20050615 01:51:39 nbsp ha ha, why thank you! Users/MichelleAccurso

20050718 14:47:48 nbsp conduct ! contact Users/ArlenAbraham

20050718 15:22:31 nbsp they learned how to revert! Users/EdwinS ES

20050811 12:15:52 nbsp wow, I totally called the Ralphus reference on the Didj. page. I didnt realize anyone else has seen Bloodsucking Freaks! Users/CraigBrozinsky

20050817 11:08:31 nbsp I like how that comment sounded. Welcome to the Wookie! Thats what we need, a Mascot.  Users/Edwins ES

20050819 23:17:28 nbsp ron mangun? thats even better than dirk diggler. Users/ArlenAbraham

20050824 10:27:20 nbsp Hi JeffSpeckelsthenotanastronaut, Wokky, Evan, insert moniker of your choice.  You make a good point about inherent weakness of the wiki system with your criticism of Robs retelling of the infamous G St. Eye Incident. I believe most reasonably intelligent folks take the info in the wiki with a grain of salt, and with that attitude, they realize that stories such as this are open to research and correction. As it happens, in this particular case there probably isnt anything to research, since the incident didnt lead to any arrests on the night of the brawl, or, to my knowledge, at any point thereafter (something I would most likely have heard about, since I worked with Bouncer X during that time period). Just for clarifications sake, Rob does have the basic facts right, although the only verification the rest of the world has for it comes from people like myself who were there when it happened. Does a story like this really have to make a police blotter to gain veracity? Users/BigDave
   Im not JeffSpeckels  he seems to have edited his personal page so it looks like I might be him.  Robs a pretty good source, in my opinion.  I dont always agree with him, but hes not the type to omit important information.   Users/JabberWokky

20050824 10:28:25 nbsp On a totally unrelated subject, you and I look a whole lot alike, like a fair amount of the same stuff, and both play guitar. Perhaps this explains why people keep telling me I have a doppelganger somewhere in Davis. And why I keep getting called Evan. Users/BigDave
   Now thats possible  but I have just recently moved to Pennsylvania, so you get the town.  Unless I return, in which case well share on a road by road basis.  ;)  Users/JabberWokky

20050830 18:38:38 nbsp re: police misconduct page.. you know this for sure? I was going by the article: the couple somehow got the impression that an attempt was made to lure the girl to the car. That information was relayed to Davis police officers.  Especially if his parents were in the front seats and the ones who tried to talk to her, I dont see why hed be the one reported. Users/Edwins ES

20050924 23:26:47 nbsp What was your favorite White Wolf game? Users/SharonZimmerman

20050927 13:09:00 nbsp Thanks for the Nova episode Jabber  I might even consider adding that to the FUCKing platform. Users/BrentLaabs

20050927 17:03:16 nbsp all in good fun, of course  :) Users/CarlMcCabe

20050928 11:29:49 nbsp SpottedAmericans? I love it! Users/MichelleAccurso

20050929 22:28:05 nbsp Can you look at the Automated Weather Observation System? I think the stuff you put in about the web access needs to be explained a lot better. Thanks. Users/NickSchmalenberger

20051005 07:29:37 nbsp I look forward to the day when wiki authorship is represented by a wider age range.  But that will never happen while comments like those on the Senior Citizens page exist.  So, thank you for deleting those childish walmart comments and requesting real information. Users/CarlMcCabe

20051104 17:57:26 nbsp there is never not a time or place for a frisbee! Users/Edwins ES

20051108 16:11:29 nbsp makes sense as a redirect. Users/Edwins ES

20051116 15:54:18 nbsp dont both those websites say Cow Tipping it IS possible? I only skimmed it but they both said (I think) that it just takes more then 1 person.  The 2nd one says it doesnt, but then it counters its possible with a group thats careful/fast. Users/Edwins ES

20051121 20:15:36 nbsp Howdy, Mr. That. The idea of a Wiki is that everybody works together to create pages. This page, the Explore page and every other page is a cooperative effort. If youd let people discuss some of the issues going on rather than deleting their comments and undoing their changes without any conversation, it would probably be a good idea. Edits are cooperative and in order to do that, they really have to be discussed. Nobody is fucking with your edits, they are merely doing the same thing you are doing  editing the pages of the Wiki. Everybody is equal here, which means they are editing, exactly as you are editing (although with different opinions at times). If you disagree with somebody elses edit, the best thing to do is discuss it with them... which is what people have been trying to do with you on this page.  jw  
  Exactly my point, I couldnt agree with you more. Perhaps I was a bit too harsh with Users/PhilipNeustrom Mr. Neustrom. My apologies. One thing you can be sure of is that it will never happen again. Users/SorryAboutThat Remorseful Editor

20051130 15:47:24 nbsp I noticed you changed my page.  I would appreciate it if you would leave my page the way i meant it to be.  I  was upset that you modified my page in such a way.  I wanted the page to be like that, with spelling like that, and without references to Davis Wildlife and enjoying the public.  So if you could leave my page alone, that would be great.  thanks JeromeJohnson

20051130 16:21:05 nbsp The anonymous edits were getting out of hand, I thought. Seperation was pretty good, but it looked like there was some discussion wanting to happen (negative comments to the positive comments, etc). A talk (eg experiences) page seemed like a logical step, considering the partisan nature of the topic... everyone wants to refute everyone elses experiences and what have you, so I figure when the activity dies down well end up with a few worthwhile comments to integrate. If you think leaving the whole mess on the main page is preferable, I will defer to you. Also, I doubt Jerome is really an old black man who attends high school as his IP sugguests.... if he is, oh boy. BALEET. Users/DomenicSantangelo

20051130 20:59:30 nbsp I see you did a lot in the deletion of lame/useless pages. Good call. Users/JohnDudek

20051202 09:48:15 nbsp yeah my page is kinda a joke.  But i was planning on making some informative contributions to other peoples pages.  However, my plans to do that were interupted when my page was deleted.  anyway, im gonna put it back, and hopefully add my knowledge to some other pages. JeromeJohnson

20051203 15:03:27 nbsp I used the Users/ArlenAbraham arlen handle back when i didnt think there would be more than one arlen (my kerberos login is arlen), then i checked the directory and lo and behold, there were two more arlens! it was only a matter of time before one of the other came along and http://daviswiki.org/Nobu_Hiro?actionhighlight&valuearlenkwong edited something. Users/ArlenAbraham

20051207 22:09:12 nbsp You changed my sentence about the birth control pill as being abortifacient by saying the birth control pill is not abortifacient during normal usage. Well unless all usage is abnormal, than I believe you are incorrect. I do not know where you get your facts but this website is where I find my facts. http://www.epm.org/articles/bcp3300.html#_edn1 One of the effects of the pill is that it thickens the uterine lining and therefore any fertilized egg (a human person in my mind) has a problem with trying to implant. Therefore, in some cases, the human person dies when it cannot implant. Abortion. This is not simply when the pill is misused. The pill does not always prevent the sperm and the egg from meeting. In those cases, abortion can occur and that is while a person is using the birth control pill normally. Unless you have a good case against that, I am going to change it back. Users/ColinWen

20051207 22:20:53 nbsp oh man, great photo there! Users/MichelleAccurso

20051208 16:18:02 nbsp Hey  I noticed you are one of the editors of the 0  3 at UCD page.  Do you know who I could contact about buying one of those blackandwhite Dont Be A Dick shirts? Users/NaBarry

20051208 18:25:34 nbsp I wouldnt mind taking a look at your underground housing books, if you dont mind sometime. That might make this escapade a little safer. Users/JohnDudek

20051209 19:54:32 nbsp Ok but it is deceptive to say normal usage because there is no usage of hormonal birth control where an abortion will absolutely not occur. All normal usage has the possibility of an abortion each time there is intercourse even if that is not the purpose. But I understand your point. They can but do not always cause abortions. By the way, the morning after pill can cause an abortion like this abortion website points out. http://www.nyabortion.com/birthcontrol/themorningpill.shtml They dont admit that the pill can cause an abortion but they tell you that it can prevent an egg from implanting in the uterine wall like the birth control pill does. For me, an abortion, at least in my book, is the ending of a pregnancy anytime after fertilization. Therefore the morning after pill can cause an abortion. Sorry, not to bring the argument to your page. But can we change the wording normal usage? I think simply having potentially abortifacient explains your point clearly. Users/ColinWen

20051212 13:18:01 nbsp Thanks. First time theyre not at 5 am. Ive got finals coming up, haha. Its that or study. Users/Edwins ES

20051217 18:37:14 nbsp Those comment integration bars are going to end up on every single wiki page. Mine as well just spend the time integrating them IMO. Users/JackHaskel

20051217 22:44:06 nbsp How about making IntegrateComments into a more general Needs refactoring?  Certain pages (Sams, Abortion debate, etc) need help, and the graphic is nice!  I supposed the main issue is how to phrase this in a concise way.  Ill take a stab at it myself later.. Users/PhilipNeustrom

20051218 01:20:02 nbsp The fact that the creator was a nazisupporter has local relevance in that there are people who live here who might not want to shop at the store because of it. If you want to include the local news of the black woman, please link the article without making the link editoriallized. For example, it can say Local news about IKEA in Sacramento otherwise I will change it. SS

20051218 01:32:52 nbsp The proposed text is OK. The nazi ties are a little more elaborate than that. Im not sure which, but one or two of the articles I linked now in the IKEA/Talk page talk about his public friendship to an open and active nazisupporter. If you included that, I would consider the proposed text alright. SS

20051218 01:42:43 nbsp I dont. The only people making any real problems on the decision are Domenic and Michelle; Ive respected their perspective and tried to validate it by revising to what I considered what they wanted. Its obvious that from their continued persistance in changing what I say that they dont want anything but to provoke me. I also dont think its necessary to wait on putting in the new text. I am going to do it myself.  SS

20051219 11:01:22 nbsp Excuse me, but you cant just lock it HIS way. Where is the fairness in that? SS

20051219 11:02:34 nbsp Nevermind. SS

20060101 14:24:16 nbsp Nobody hacks my account but liquor!  And Peter Axt controlling my brain. Users/MikeIvanov

20060101 21:00:35 nbsp ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US!! MatthewKeys

20060113 13:12:43 nbsp So why are you reverting my Psychic revert and deleting all their comments? They were funny, cute, nonoffensive, noninsulting, and kind of clever. Thats why I restored them. It wasnt a war or meanspirited or such. Explain. Users/SteveDavison
  Likewise, its hardly worth getting into an argument over and Im not one to get into a pushandshove revert war, plus I have great respect for you... True it didnt directly add to the Psychic page, but it was kind of lighthearted, and I enjoyed it. Sometimes things can be offtopic, yet valuable for other reasons. Just look at all of human conversation; people digress into all sorts of interesting but obviously offtopic subjects. Yet we permit and enjoy these anecdotes anyway. The comments section is appropriate for these. Frankly, I think its fine for the Wiki to have these little diversions. Newspapers are full of them. The Wiki doesnt have to read like an academic journal or even an encyclopedia. If it was a long meaningless banter I would feel differently, but about three lines of joking can add some appropriate and desirable levity in right place. Thats my overly long discussion on the matter.

20060127 14:47:18 nbsp what are you doing with those pngs you uploaded? im curious Users/MichelleAccurso

20060127 15:18:13 nbsp It must be awards day! Everyone gets a ribbon. : cute Users/MichaelGiardina

20060130 16:31:12 nbsp I think the mobile homes that are near PC Games are part of Slatters court Users/MyaBrn

20060520 12:37:05 nbsp I am aware of copyright concerns for the wiki, but considering the widespread distribution of the image (and its globalization hence...no pun intended), I believe it is an okay image to reproduce, especially since it is credited and not for commercial use. My question is, how do we go about checking for sure if its okay to use? It is certainly a more appropriate and allencompassing image than the Virgin Mary photo. Users/EliseKane

20060520 14:22:05 nbsp cool. sounds good. Users/EliseKane

20060602 19:28:37 nbsp From my understanding, 95618 will cover everything south of I80, as well as everything east of Pole Line. So the map on Zip Codes needs to be fixed. Users/AndrewChen

20060628 21:02:13 nbsp thanks for cleaning up my sloppy mess on the oldenfowl page. im moving right now and am trying to keep my wiki editing to a minimum. Users/ArlenAbraham

20060702 20:03:33 nbsp lol.  was being more sarcastic than venomous i thought :P.  and sorry if i offended, i did mean it lightly albeit sarcastically...and i did provide a link or two. Users/Edwins ES

20060711 09:42:16 nbsp The sex image was added by MG along with a long string of other images, all of which did not add to the page and were probably copyrighted by someone else. I resisted deleting them right away because they would be added back immediatley, but over the last few months, Ive been removing them as I find them. As for the sex page, I think wed be better off with a photo of some condoms or something. Users/ArlenAbraham

Thanks!  Still learning this stuff. :) CameronMenezes

June 15, 2006  I just worry that making this page is setting an uncomfortable precedent. Mrs. Daly does not appear to be a public figure of any sort at the moment, therefore I believe she deserves the right to not have biographical pages made about her unless she wishes for it to be. Im assuming that if she wanted the information Mrs. Bailes has been posting in a central part of a page about herself than she would have put it on her userpage.
That said, you do raise a good point about the benefit of helping to show people how the delineation between the two types of person pages works, so I acquiesce on this matter for now. Its just not the kind of thing Id like to see sitting around on here for too long, if Mrs. Daly doesnt want it to be. Users/JosephBleckman

I purchased and posted the Davis Enterprise article where I am mentioned on the Sharla Daly page, if youd like to see it.  You can decide it attending a meeting of the HRC qualifies me as a public figure.  SharlaDaly

20060717 15:45:49 nbsp Indeed, but I have a bias to have unbiased pages.  I dont know how to create order otherwise.  Users/SteveOstrowski

20060717 17:31:44 nbsp Yeah, and I thought Belgarion would be a cute name for a hamster. My girlfriend prefers Gary for short.  Users/Edwins ES

20060719 20:25:23 nbsp Shelly can go back years and years to pull up every accolade, every achievement, every meeting no matter how minor, yet continues to minimize the fact that she resigned from the HRC because she couldnt work in a hostile work environment with people that disagree with her (her own words).  I supported my original entry with a quote from the local newspaper.  I try to soften it by removing the alleged unethical behavior part.  Now shes trying to imply that everything was hunkydory.  Last night I verified with three different people that were on the commission at the time that there was a meeting scheduled to discuss removing her has the Chair, but she resigned before it happened.  If I have to get agendas, I can try.  But the newspaper article alone should substantiate the entry.    Users/SharlaDaly

20060720 09:28:09 nbsp Can you take a look at the police misconduct stories page at what I wrote?  I didnt like Cameron rewriting Steves comment and leaving the signature (when they couldnt prove they were right), and I thought a comment wasnt a good fit.  Tried to change it to a neutral note to show both sides. Legal, but sometimes considered racially motivated.  Youre pretty good at the whole rewriting to appease everyone thing :) Users/Edwins ES

20060721 01:43:06 nbsp Thanks. Im thinking about doing something similair for the Bay Area page. Users/CarlosOverstreet

20060721 11:09:51 nbsp I didnt know that. Thanks for the heads up. Users/MatthewLow

20060721 17:49:56 nbsp I hadnt read your comment when I revised the membership section and added the SA goon comment. Way to read my mind. Users/ArlenAbraham

20060722 09:00:09 nbsp Will Davis ever get a BBQ joint? Users/CarlosOverstreet

20060722 14:10:10 nbsp Yeah, Ludys is an awesome place. I love their sandwhiches there. I just wish there was something IN Davis... They have a plethora of ethnic food but nothing I suppose thats American, not counting Bakers square and Applebees. Users/CarlosOverstreet

20060725 17:21:30 nbsp Its ok, both work fine...just wanted to put the line back in. Users/JamesSchwab

20060726 20:02:42 nbsp Gelato is made with more raw ingredients than ice cream.  Ice cream is simply cream, sugar, and whatever flavorings are added to that.  The base of gelato uses more ingredients than that.. what exactly, im not sure, but I know that there are more things blended together.  Usually there is some sort of emulsifier, like eggs which are also added.  I will definitely look into this, because now you have captured my attention! Users/JulienBiewerElstob

20060727 00:59:55 nbsp whered you get the durian ice cream? Users/Edwins ES

20060730 09:53:01 nbsp Thanks for the donation, that photo with the silly hats made me laugh. Users/ArlenAbraham

20060802 18:52:26 nbsp thanks, I didnt know that!  much easier lol Users/JoeRunnels

20060802 23:43:08 nbsp That was a very nice surprise today. Thanks JW! Users/CarlosOverstreet

20060807 17:56:48 nbsp Re: Youth for Recovery  yes, thats better. Users/SharlaDaly

20060810 14:34:28 nbsp Im from Nebraska.  I know straw bales. Users/CarlMcCabe

20060810 17:18:04 nbsp Hey JW, the zine is the size of an 8.5x11 folded in half, so the right size envelope would be a 6x9 and postage to be safe is about 90 cents. I look forward to it, send a buck to the P.O. Box on the Hysteria page and youll get a sweet package.Users/MorganFlores

20060812 09:20:59 nbsp haha!  Strangely reminiscent of the Dan Quayle debacle.  Remember that?  potatoes vs. potatos? Users/CameronMenezes

20060823 10:55:48 nbsp I keep seeing a guy with a beard and his GF shopping in the north davis Safeway where I work, I thought it was you, but it must be one of the other guys involved with this wiki...  He has a beard... Users/JoeRunnels

20060901 17:18:42 nbsp yeah... it was totally an edit conflict on my end  we were thinking roughly the same thing at the same time.  synchronicity.  or Wikivangelists wikiholism. Users/BrentLaabs

20060905 12:53:09 nbsp the business model  for a wiki page had () ...didnt think about removing them Users/JamesSchwab

20060905 13:14:05 nbsp They are both ran by ASUCD...WEF is a breakeven unit, while Picnic day is not. Picnic day also gets money from the University. However, ASUCD has hiring and firing power over the directors. Users/JamesSchwab

20060905 13:15:29 nbsp http://asucd.ucdavis.edu/government/govdocuments/budget here are links to the budgets Users/JamesSchwab

20060917 17:28:19 nbsp Image(bob2.jpg, noborder) Users/EfremRensi

20060918 21:52:31 nbsp Its amazing what you can create in 5 minutes in mspaint.  I use it for all of my icon creation needs. Users/BrentLaabs

20060926 16:33:01 nbsp clutter clutter clutter. Users/BrentLaabs

20060928 13:32:38 nbsp Actually, Wheelworks does have the largest inventory of expensive road bikes. Its not a bias when its factual. Users/KaiTing

20061005 20:00:05 nbsp I realize that yer not a fan of the Name Debate page, but people have suggested that some of the historical info about the Turtle House be extracted from the name debate page, and there is other info on there that pertains to Davis Houses. In particular, Im thinking of Rob and Sharlas comments.   Users/MorganFlores

 Ah, semantics point taken. Im glad you like the Houses idea. Users/MorganFlores

20061016 19:34:50 nbsp JabberWokkyLet me know when I can change my name back to AdamFlowers.  Sorry about the confusion...I am still learning.  Thanks for the help! Users/AdamFlowers

20061016 20:00:59 nbsp I think I fixed it. Users/AdamFlowers

20061107 03:19:19 nbsp Thanks for the clarification, JW.  There are some Targets in Sacramento (my stomping ground) which have expanded refrigeration sections and grocery selections, but nothing on the scale of what you describe.  Sounds a bit intimidatin. Users/LeightonHinkley

20061117 08:27:59 nbsp if steve ostrowski can get away with being vague as hell, then why cant i? Users/IanRamsay

20061118 00:16:25 nbsp Evan!! I am so glad I was able to find you! I wanted to appologize for the way my mom jumped in on the cast! I never got the chance to do so before I moved and I felt terrible about it! I hope to hear back from you! Users/JoeSvogar

20061118 16:04:20 nbsp How is it useful to say of Yreka there is little beyond their quaintness to speak of or of Red Bluff serves some purpose which has thus far eluded science? In my opinion that is nothing but mean. Users/NickSchmalenberger

20061118 16:08:36 nbsp you have your opinion... I think its lighthearted and breaks up the factual stuff so its no so... dry Users/CarlosOverstreet

Many thanks for fixing the formating of the text I put on the potholes page today. I have a lot to learn about such basic things as indenting and making italics text! John Lofland

20061209 16:57:00 nbsp I am amazed that Alchemy appeared so much before my class was even submitted, long before it was public, and then, the page magically recreated... awesomeness, thanks. Users/DavePoole

20061213 07:01:48 nbsp Lolz, the Friends Acronym looks so bad.... Users/SteveOstrowski

20061214 11:28:08 nbsp (ASUCD Student Government Advisor Re:)Yeah thats good.  Im not sure virtually every other unit cant be replaced with every other unit, and/or perhaps the examples I gave of specifc conflicts might be mentioned  but Im not sure those are the reduction in parsimony.  Its a good add in general though and Im content to at least let it stew for awhile to see if someone else wants to finetune it. Users/KrisFricke

20061214 12:59:37 nbsp I didnt realize there was a problem naming the position. In the budget the salaray line item is under the Student Govenment budget and the position is named as Advisor Users/JamesSchwab

20061214 13:37:47 nbsp I certainly HOPE no one reviews his pasta.  Well, they can do that on their own time. Users/KrisFricke

20061214 14:59:05 nbsp Curse you Jabberwok, so many creations you have beat me to amid my distraction. Users/DavidPoole

20061214 16:04:46 nbsp Im just curious. You live on the east coast. What is your interest in Davis? Users/KirkCowgill
   I lived there for awhile, and Sarah and I hope to return once shes completed her doctorate.  Moreover, we have many friends in Davis and Sacramento.

20061214 16:31:33 nbsp Thanks for wrapping so much stuff up.  A lot of times Ill leave an open ended edit or comment (especially when deleting my part on talk pages) hoping youll notice it and 2nd the motion to delete, or wrap something up, or whatever it is.  Users/Edwins ES

20061214 17:12:55 nbsp JW, you rock.  Youre doing a ton to impove the quality and relevance of the Wiki, and as a fellow user I appreciate it.  Dont feel bad about someone leaving in a huff  youre doing a great job, and you have nothing to apologize for. Users/GrahamFreeman

20061215 13:14:33 nbsp Haha, editlocks no longer exist?  Well arent I illinformed then.  Whyd that decision get made?  I think they were only beneficial.  Not only preventing conflicting edits, but allowing people to take a little time to cool off if they didnt get it Users/KrisFricke

20061215 18:08:46 nbsp Works every time :P Users/Edwins ES

20061217 15:44:41 nbsp JW who has the capability to change my username? Users/StevenDaubert

20061217 15:55:36 nbsp I tried to sign up under that name but the Caps requirements dont allow it ( Users/StevenDaubert

20061220 14:12:27 nbsp JW please go read my comment of Mr. Allers page so you can get an idea of where Im coming from. oh and I think you lie about this page being somewhat out of date 3 Users/StevenDaubert

20070104 08:20:08 nbsp I held (and still hold) a different interpretation about the services offered by that business. I didnt follow up on it though, so if you think Im wrong, feel free to revive it.  Users/CarlMcCabe

20070104 13:26:48 nbsp you win JW. <3 for making my discombobulated ramblings make sense Users/StevenDaubert

20070105 16:36:24 nbsp JW wins again. I now know about noborder! Hey Jw, swing by City_Services and give me your thoughts on what do with the quote. Users/StevenDaubert

20070105 17:42:12 nbsp Ill provide a full writeup later, right now, im pretty upset and dont want to say something i shouldnt. Users/ArlenAbraham

20070106 16:10:48 nbsp JW can you please tell me how to display a photo from another entry? Users/StevenDaubert

20070108 15:24:59 nbsp Hey there, I didnt actually create the Alpha Epsilon Pi page, so the wording is not my own.  But as for the verb surviving, there used to be several Jewish fraternities that existed in the US, Zeta Beta Tau and Sigma Alpha Mu are two of them.  Those fraternities have since become secular, or non faithbased while AEPi is still, at a national level, a Jewish fraternity. Users/ZakDavis

20070108 16:51:50 nbsp Jabber Many thanks for your unanticipated wiki help with the BirdPath page. MarkGrote Users/MarkGrote

20070122 00:02:09 nbsp Hi Jabber, I found some material about the usage of the word quaint. An editor at the Baltimore Sun, here: http://blogs.baltimoresun.com/about_language/2006/08/local_option.html and everything2.com here: http://everything2.com/index.pl?nodequaint. I look forward to your opinion. Users/NickSchmalenberger

20070128 19:40:10 nbsp Hi JW Users/StevenDaubert

20070129 10:03:56 nbsp Youve helped on the Pub Live page before, but I uploaded some photos Ive taken from Pub Live and I cant figure out how to get them on the page in thumbnail format. Im not sure what Im doing wrong, so if you could help thatd be great. Thanks! Users/AnneJuliaBaluyot

20070202 05:47:05 nbsp I would disagree that the WikiPedia article is more informative because it mostly says I did it! from one city and Me too from another (sheep), while the Scotsman provides a thoughtful analysis. Also, if you are going to link to WikiPedia, try to use the wiki link. You have said that Daviswiki is not like WikiPedia because it does not require npov or objectivity, so I should tell you that I have often found WikiPedia talk pages more informative than their corresponding articles. I think this applies to Daviswiki also with regard to it being a form of communication and not just a Davis reference thing. You might not like to admit it, but Daviswiki is mostly a message board. Its wiki nature allows for it to be fairly well organized and for useful information to be easier to find, but most of the material is message board type stuff.

Which brings me to the issue of insulting language in Daviswiki articles. I feel somewhat more justified in insulting things that happen in Davis than other places because that is what Daviswiki is about and it is where I have lived all my life. If somebody can explain to me in detail why flashmobs are good then I am willing to be convinced, but if it is the sort of thing where if you dont already get it you are not going to, then I am not going to and will be annoyed. That is my point of view and I edit the wiki as such. When people communicate with me, including arguing, I learn from them and my point of view becomes broader, so I take most opportunities. Thank you for everything I have learned from you and I look forward to learning more in the future. Users/NickSchmalenberger

20070203 12:48:04 nbsp If the whole page had turned bold then the problem would have been more obvious.  But I dont think the browser will render the whole page bold when it sees a single strong element inside of a table cell  the browser sort of automatically closes the strong (or any styling) at the end of a table cell (Im not sure why).  Maybe we can keep a stack of open tags when we enter a table and then make sure and close them at the end of a table.  Users/PhilipNeustrom

20070203 14:34:13 nbsp I wanted to say thanks for your help, so I wrote a Love Letters to the Wiki love letter to the wiki. Thanks alot! Users/JoRo

20070206 09:42:27 nbsp Footnoting links is annoying. I dont want to have to go to the bottom of the page to open the link in a new tab, then go back up to keep on reading. The sudden proliferation of anchored footnotes on Wikipedia annoys me to no end and Id prefer it if that nonsense didnt come here. Footnotes are good in print, but the web isnt print. Hyperlinks rule. I suppose you should just count this as one vote against footnotes. Users/WilliamLewis

20070206 22:39:32 nbsp Are you the guy to ask? I wanted like to know how to post Events to the Event Board or some other appropriate spot. Wanted to post Davis Coop events and classes  good things to do when youre bored, etc. Users/JoRo
    Theres a form to post events at the bottom of the Events Board page  is that what you were wondering?  Or do you want to know about something more specific?  If you didnt see the event posting form at the bottom of the page: do you think we ought to put a line at the top of the page saying something like To post events, use the form at the bottom of this page?

20070207 00:50:47 nbsp just stole your code to put a comment box on my site. thanks :) Users/LeonardMarque

20070207 10:45:53 nbsp Bleckman joined Student Focus, and he wanted their yellow to be his color, rather than just the grey/bluish for which term you are. Kinda like how commission chairs have their party colors on the ASUCD Senate page... Users/MaxMikalonis

20070210 16:48:40 nbsp I didnt know for sure, but it was the exact opposite of every other comment, namedropped the manager, had very generic name, points out location of store again, said the greatest in Northern California, talks trash on a competitior, and uses multile bangs. There are a lot of other sockpuppets ive been meaning to prune, especially the salon pages. Users/ArlenAbraham

20070211 08:32:45 nbsp you inspire me.  my comment on the apple page was originally meant to be mildly sarcastic, but youre right that a linux page would be cool here.  hopefully others will build on it though, because im really not an expert. Users/CarlMcCabe

20070212 06:09:42 nbsp Obfuwhatwhat? :P Users/EdwinS ES

20070212 06:22:29 nbsp Gasp! This means war!           and yeah I already knew what you mean, that sort of sneaky shannigans, for shame!  Users/EdWins ES

20070212 06:32:16 nbsp Why does Mount Lassen need to be compared to Yellowstone? Iceland has geothermal stuff too, but we arent comparing it to Iceland. I knew about geothermal things at Mount Lassen and http://seismo.berkeley.edu/faq/gey_0.html The Geysers before I had ever heard of Yellowstone, and I am sure there are people in Europe who know that Iceland has geothermal activity but dont know about Yellowstone. The page presents Lassen as a more convenient alternative to Yellowstone, which in my opinion is not useful, because it is based on an assumption about other peoples ignorance. If yellowstone is what people want then they probably want to run over or get run over by buffalo and other things that Lassen doesnt have. They are different places and some similarities that they may have are a coincidence.

A google search for geothermal area lists Iceland first, then Nevada, California, Hawaii, New Zealand, and The Azores. Yellowstone is not even in the top ten, so it is not really famous for geothermal things in general. It is more famous for geysers (links two, three, and seven on google), but Lassen does not have wiki:WikiPedia:Geothermal_areas_in_Lassen_Volcanic_National_Park any true geysers. So somebody with a typical expectation for Yellowstone (geysers, buffalo) would probably not be interested in Lassen. Users/NickSchmalenberger

20070212 10:57:20 nbsp Speaking of edit obfuscation... when you moved stuff to Wiki/Longview and replied to it in the same edit, you didnt sign your replies so it is hard to see what you said versus what other said that you replied to. The whole thing is generally obfuscated by the movings and renamings. Users/NickSchmalenberger

20070212 18:25:21 nbsp Thanks for the edits to the longview page. Id like to nominate that edit for Edit of the Year. You turned a series of comments into a well organized page. Users/JasonAller

20070214 10:07:57 nbsp Thanks for the clean up on my Sacramento Forums entry  Ive added a Davis forum to the site... Users/EricKloss

20070214 15:03:48 nbsp We cant notice anything if we cant read the page. Users/BrentLaabs

20070215 00:57:29 nbsp Please change the logo back.... Too much pink/red when its no longer VDay. Users/MaxMikalonis

20070215 02:12:22 nbsp revert the logo already!   <3 Users/StevenDaubert

20070215 04:33:54 nbsp Some people just dont like love?  ;)  Or they just dont want me to ever sleep? Users/JabberWokky

20070215 09:27:11 nbsp Hah hah Im blind. Found your comment box Users/MyaBrn

20070216 00:24:50 nbsp Ugh.  Sound plus flash.  /me hates those websites. Users/BrentLaabs

20070217 01:34:52 nbsp Hi JW Users/StevenDaubert

20070217 20:50:38 nbsp Where did the help page on making table of contents go? I wanted to practice one using the UCD hazmat procedures... Users/StevenDaubert p.s. I left the hazmat page looking funky and un polished so it would prompt me into fixing it it up, cause the wiki needs good content.

20070218 12:44:04 nbsp wait, i dont understand the edit on Users/AlexNorriss page... Users/MichelleAccurso

20070219 10:20:48 nbsp Thanks for the cleanup. Your innovation of the Have a timestamp was a very good solution to both the problem of stale pages and linkless ones. Users/JasonAller

20070222 16:43:18 nbsp Thanks for cleaning up the article.  Now it looks even better! :D Users/WaylandLee

20070224 18:00:50 nbsp yes i saw a green one in the electric car spot in the parking lot outside of greatwall Users/MattHh

20070224 20:26:12 nbsp it was a xebra.  From a distance i thought it was the little green electric car, but then as walked to my car wich was parked next to it, i noticed that it seated  at least 2 people.  Then on closer inspection noticed it seated 4.  I read off the label and looked it up online that day, because it sparked my curiousity.  They do look similar though.  My guess its gone unoticed as a seperate car for a while. Users/MattHh

20070227 13:18:38 nbsp Oh so that is the source of your sudden realization, congrats.  Users/DavidPoole

20070227 17:34:00 nbsp Actually, I didnt think it (coyoto image) was nice enough which is why I didnt remove the image request... kinda fuzy Users/WesHardaker

I understand the shuffling around of information for it makes the wiki more useful from the point of view of someone that does not identify as Native American or South Asian. Unfortunately, the grouping of ethnicity and cultures can give the impression that people who identify as those identities are being pushed aside, to be further ignored. The grouping of the orgs does make sense, but the pages with the descriptions and also academic programs (which should not fall under the title organizations) should remain. What do you think? Users/EricWu

20070302 10:14:25 nbsp email me, maybe we can discuss this in venue more apt for converstaion. I will be in napa for a marathon till monday, can we hold off till then? Users/EricWu

20070302 10:25:03 nbsp I am not too sure what you mean by a writeup. What I got from your comment was the use of short small pages that has a description then links to the eth/cult orgs page and demographics page. Again, not sure what you ment, but I would like to see something as I just described so that misc things that do not fit in the orgs page or demograpics page can be added there. Users/EricWu

20070302 14:07:19 nbsp What is upsetting was that people kept deleting the page when barely anyone in the community had a chance to work on it.  There really should be something like a oneweek grace period where no new pages are deleted until people are able to work on them.  I wasnt taking any attacks personally.  I was/am peeves about page deletion happening constantly without a chance for people to work on it Users/JoAnnaRich

20070303 21:09:43 nbsp Wow, its wokky, not wonky... >_< How could I have missed that?! Users/StevenDaubert

20070304 08:05:55 nbsp The state is part of the US, but the food isnt what most people would describe as American, especially wih the Japanese influences.  Users/Edwins ES

20070304 08:32:27 nbsp Just an fyi: the Hawaiian/Japanese food category wasnt a political statement...both are widely accepted categories of food; Native Hawaiians (Polynesians) have their own unique foods eaten for thousands of years, Asian immigrants to Hawaii developed their own take on their traditional foods over the last 150+ years, and both often fall under the category Hawaiian.  Try some, youll see! ;) Users/DukeMcAdow
20070304 08:34:13 nbsp I wasnt debating whether its PART of the US, I was arguing the food category.   Theres barely anything on the Woodlands Restaurants page so its rather bare, but I do agree with Luke, Hawaiin food, especially traditional, wouldnt fall under what most people consider to be American food, despite its political/geographic state lines :P   And if it were to pop up, Id likely want Cajun to have its own category too, its definitely an established subset, style, and type of food.  I love Cajun cuisine.  Users/Edwins ES
  Heh, I didnt think it was this big a deal.  For both of you:  Im fine with a subcategory, and I didnt think it was a political statement.  I was merely trying to keep the total number of categories down and limit the number of categories with a single entry.  It was layout/readability that made me initially place it into American (with a comment).  Im perfectly happy with splitting out various cuisines, in fact I also considered a Diner category for Dons Diner, but instead stuck it into American for the exact same reason I tossed Ono Teriyaki into American: to keep those categories concise (since they each would/are the only entry in that category).  If I had added Ludys now, I likely would have tossed it in there as well.  I only corrected Edwins entry because I had already added Ono the day before, and it was listed twice when he added it again.  I gave my rationale for placing it where I did, and you both disagreed, which is fine by me.  It gets a distinct category.  Users/JabberWokky
     Thanks for the explanation; not a big deal, really, I just misunderstood your deletion of the category and the comment about Hawaii being a state. There has been some recent controversy in Hawaii and Washington DC about the status of Native Hawaiians, and I mistakenly thought it was related to that.  Users/DukeMcAdow
        Not at all, I wasnt even aware of any controversy.  The comment owes more to a comedy skit (Kids in the Hall?) involving somebody insisting that Canada was a state. And Jason is right (hint, hint, to the person who currently lives in Woodland), if Woodland had a full Wiki, there would be plenty of room for a massive restaurants entry and there would be no reason to try and keep it concise.  Users/JabberWokky
   If only there was a woodland wiki, then they could solve this... Wed be able to have interwiki links and everything. Users/JasonAller

20070305 20:36:03 nbsp Thanks for getting the NeedsDavisRelevance icon better.  I knew someone would come along and fix my idea. Users/BrentLaabs

20070306 11:22:35 nbsp Thanks for finding the status of the superfund exhibit.  I am a bit dissappointed as I wanted to check it out. Users/DavidGrundler

20070308 20:13:04 nbsp Never did i harbor bad feelings or ill will toward you. I totally understood your intentions, but I also had some cultrual issues that I wanted to bring in to the mix in addition to the streamlineing of the wiki. To tell you the truth, I am not too educated on South Asians in the community, but I felt that it was not right to have the page removed. I am glad that we have reached a compromise now that there is more information on there. In the end, i thought the page needed to be there and need time to grow. hopefully this will be useful in the future; i guess if one person uses it as a resource it would be well worth it. Thanks for your understanding and patience Users/EricWu

20070309 13:35:44 nbsp Hey, JW, thanks for all you do on Davis Wiki.  I appreciate your efforts. Users/GrahamFreeman

20070313 00:37:20 nbsp The sock puppet was a pretty obvious attempt to cover up his edits. I was confused by two different JoeLevys in the recent changes, and I wanted to keep others from being confused. Users/KarlMogel

20070313 23:07:07 nbsp Well one of the points is a requirement, but only once youre accepted, not before. The only reason I know this is because I applied to the program recently. Users/TusharRawat

20070314 11:05:34 nbsp My family buried my Grandpa last month, he died in June. Sad, but we had been expecting it for months before that, and didnt joke much about it. I understand everybody has a different sense of humor though. The reason I made the Death page was because I wanted to link it from Things to Do in Davis in the Davis Visitors Guide, but I decided that would be in bad taste... Users/NickSchmalenberger

20070315 13:12:36 nbsp thanks, for correcting my freudian typo on the housing guide page :) Users/CraigBrozinsky

20070315 14:22:38 nbsp yes, i went through hell and back, which i documented on the acadian properties page.  Users/CraigBrozinsky

20070315 15:46:27 nbsp Why did you say there are no Venture Scouts in Davis? You could try asking people who might be aware of such things, like Users/DanielGonzales or myself. Im not involved with it anymore, but I think Daniel is still with my old group. Users/NickSchmalenberger

20070316 14:19:52 nbsp Thanks, JabberWokky. I didnt get permission, since the Ditty Bops and crew are not professional photographers. Heres their contact (management or publicity?): WWWhttp://www.thedittybops.com/contact.htm. Ill make a note on the pic. Also, Im guessing your SAD stands for Seasonal Affective Disorder. I think mine stands for Social Anxiety Disorder. Still, Im glad we share disorders with the same acronym. Go SADs! ) Users/AliceChoe

20070317 21:36:25 nbsp Ill see what I can do. I dont own a digital camera, but I can probably borrow one. The tree is dying now, and is hardly in the condition for climbing that it was when I was ten years old. Users/NickSchmalenberger

20070320 10:40:38 nbsp jw  re: UPS store, yeah, the owner has used sock puppets three times. see the UPS Store (downtown) edit #4, as well as edits 34, 41 & 42 on the original UPS store entry. All different singleuse user names. Arlen got one of them, I just removed the rest. Of course, Im just going on kips IP, which looks to be static. Maybe he lets other people register and log in to dw at his store so they can add gushing comments? Meh.. Users/CaptainRush

20070320 12:28:52 nbsp Any particular defense you have for deleting my pertinent comment ?  Users/TheTallman
    The great Jabber Wokky had no need of defenses.   Users/SteveOstrowski
       And why not? Maybe he should speak for himself. Users/TheTallman
         I did not delete your comment, I moved the information into the entry.  Please examine the edit, and note the edit comment. jw
           No offence meant, but I am little confused. Ill just take your word, and say that the way the page is now is fine. TT

20070320 18:10:13 nbsp I appreciate your consideration for my no longer invalid last name.  It honestly doesnt bother me until I have to do something for legal purposes.  Until then, I just find it amusing and yell Yes I do have a valid name! at the internet with the hopes that the next time I click enter it says Yes I agree! Users/KirstenOnell

20070322 13:26:50 nbsp I dont think that recent changes issue is related so I removed it.  It should be fixed after the software update for a couple of reasons, but Im feeling too sick to explain them :)  Keep an eye out after the update. Users/PhilipNeustrom

20070322 17:31:37 nbsp Im sure you ate there before you left...you know its pretty much a sandwich :P  Theyre most popular combos are the turkey or chicken ones.  Usually served with: lettuce, sauce, some veggies, inside bread.  It definitely is much more of a sandwich place than a middle eastern place :P Users/EdWins

20070322 17:32:27 nbsp lol! nice link, made me laugh.  Never seen that one before.  Users/EdWins

20070322 22:09:24 nbsp by the single bread theory, a bun with a still attached top and bottom wouldnt be a sandwich. my intuition said that the outside needed to be leavened which wikipedia seems to agree with. thats bad news for matzah lovers. hmmm...  its comforting to know that my Matzah Ham & Cheese Sandwich has now become even more sacrilicious.   Users/CraigBrozinsky

20070324 09:03:52 nbsp thanks for the spelling edit. Users/MattHh

20070326 18:09:49 nbsp Thanks for elevating the Squirrels squirrel Photography picture to the top right hand corner. I really liked that one, but didnt feel right about just sticking it in the corner myself. Users/JasonAller

20070327 08:43:07 nbsp sorry , i didnt look at your spiders change until after i made mine.  did i undo what you just did? Users/CarlMcCabe

20070329 15:35:29 nbsp hello Users/KaiWan

20070402 00:04:57 nbsp Reverting April Fools Day stuff: edit_count++. Ive finally discovered the real reason for all this stuff. :P Users/WilliamLewis

20070402 00:15:50 nbsp I saw it all coming, and did notice the things pretty quicky (I mean, anyone with a calendar shouldnt be toooo surprised) but I didnt want to say anything and ruin it for others.  Users/EdWins

20070402 16:27:51 nbsp My Hero!  Thanks for the help on the AD page Users/JanelleAlvstadMattson

20070402 20:17:40 nbsp thanks for the comment and revising! Users/AmyYang

20070402 20:38:43 nbsp No, I hadnt noticed that at all! Thanks! :D Users/NumiaCairaguas

20070404 12:34:33 nbsp Hey Evan, thanks for moving the bugs over to an Old page.  I agree that we should have a public list of banned people and a discussion about it.  Im not sure what the perfect way to do this is, but for now lets keep a simple page with a list and a discussion (on the same page).  How does that sound? Users/PhilipNeustrom

20070405 09:26:45 nbsp niiiiiiice, are you currently in State College? My fiance went there for her undergrad ... and I have a beard now, wear glasses and enjoy wearing black ... let us draw into the discussion more chaotic similarities. Users/FredBarrett

20070405 10:42:42 nbsp thanks for the language correction jabberwok, I apparently write stuff that is pretty painful to read. Users/DavidPoole

20070405 14:30:16 nbsp Can you or phil add a local/area government link to the front page so we can provide an easy way to locate city & county services? Users/SharlaDaly

    Hey Sharla, Im wondering what link would work best.  City Politics is the only real umbrella local government page we have, and its linked right now (written as Davis Politics) under Davis Orientation.  By the way, we let everyone edit the Front Page, in case you didnt know that already.   Users/PhilipNeustrom

I have the unfortunate trait of being a very fragmented person, especially in terms of speech, thinking, etc. So it seems that I usually write in such a fashion, thanks for all the fix. The bookstore, that is an interesting idea, but essentially it wouldnt work, well not without an extremist student government that was willing to threaten the university (shutting down unitrans would be quite a threat), however, I rather not see that happen. Please, get the plant sciences center renamed, make it something better... I will double check the name tomorrow, just to make sure I have it right this time. ~Users/DavePoole

20070407 19:03:21 nbsp Dude, you have a sweet and extremely uniform set of dice. Users/EdHenn

20070407 19:04:07 nbsp One might be tempted to call them ghettoass. Users/EdHenn

20070408 12:57:07 nbsp What does N3Ides mean? I guess I should expect meaningless jabber from someone with eyes of flame, who came whiffling through the tulgey wood and burbling and whatnot. Users/KaiTing

20070408 14:10:46 nbsp Ive seen the latin@ construction quite a lot around davis, and Ive even seen it used to refer to the Chican@ Studies Department in at least quasiofficial media. Users/BrentLaabs

20070408 14:15:27 nbsp On an unrelated note, how did you get the wsr88d data on Weather?  David and I hacked wiki:bearvalley:Weather bearvalleys Weather page last night using CSS, but I was wondering if you had something more elegant in ClickWiki. Users/BrentLaabs

20070409 10:36:54 nbsp Just noticing the redirect on the page, you might want to set wiki:Davis as your home wiki. In any case, just came to say sorry for all the mess with the Preston business, and to thank you for your support in my edits. Have a nice day Jabber. Users/DavidPoole

20070409 10:51:53 nbsp Ahh....  mouseguests.  Ok, I suppose I could see that...  change back if you want ;)  (it didnt seem so obvious ealy this morning) Users/WesHardaker

20070409 15:56:10 nbsp I do not mind at all, I had read your post and honestly found it quite thoughtful and thought provoking. It made me kinda down for not being as eloquent and open armed as you and being a bit sidey on this issue. Users/DavidPoole

20070410 04:12:19 nbsp Q. Logo? A. Im leaving it for 24 hours.  Ill reset it tonight.  I figure holidays get a day, so should congrats. Users/JabberWokky

20070410 08:17:20 nbsp For some reason, I think there was a Jabberwok behind Sidewalk Crack Project this. Ah well, its entertaining. Users/KaiTing

20070410 21:30:10 nbsp Your help on the May 1st Action page is greatly appreciated! Thanks for checking out my photographs, im rather proud of them, but i definetly need to update that site, cuz i have tons of new work. Thanks for the interest! Users/KatieDavalos

20070412 07:02:07 nbsp JabberWokky, I dont see the two addresses breaks macros bug in the bug report.  Just the one that I filled out for the Valero page. Users/DavidGrundler

20070419 22:11:04 nbsp Hey jw, thanks for the picture comment.  Its actually really hard to take a bad closeup of ginkgo leaves.  Theyre just awesome. Users/EdHenn

20070426 12:15 nbsp Thanks for workin out the EPPC page for me!  Users/jillbenciwoodward

20070430 03:25:42 nbsp Unfortunately, you would need two, would you settle for a pincenez, those are pretty cool too. Users/DavidPoole

20070430 11:18:28 nbsp Thanks for the graphics Sir Jabberwok. Users/DavidPoole

20070503 15:37:19 nbsp Are you sure the server issue was related to those images?  It seems to be churning away right now, and there appears to be very little action on the Davis Wiki. Users/DavidGrundler
    Yes, it was related.  I can reproduce, though, and so Ill get it fixed soon.  The server is doing backuptype stuff right now.  Beware of reading sysadmins graphs!  Users/PhilipNeustrom
     Shame on me!  Thanks.  Users/DavidGrundler

20070503 17:02:03 nbsp I really agree with your assertion that the wiki is a poor place for debate, and I am scared to engage you in argument, proving my point.  Users/PhilipNeustrom

20070504 11:56:13 nbsp do you have super hero powers? Users/KaiWan
  Nope.  Are you offering some? jw

20070515 12:49:47 nbsp Thank you!! Users/HeatherFlood

20070515 18:58:00 nbsp Im very moved to know that you enjoy the music. Thank you. Users/BrianAng

20070517 21:01:42 nbsp Nope, no idea where Im going to Grad school at this point.  We do have a tradition of not the same as undergrad though, so perhaps not Davis. Users/ScottRitchie

20070524 19:09:35 nbsp I removed the video from the Bicycles Rides page because I didnt think it added much to the page and it gave me a headache. Mr. Jim was considering the removal to be vandalism. Sometimes, when you remove an object (like a statue) its considered vandalism, but sometimes when you remove an object (like an empty soda can) its considered altruism. The problem is that some peoples empty soda cans are other peoples statues. Moving to the bottom is good.  Users/KaiTing

20070524 19:31:16 nbsp jimc thought removing the video was vandalism. Users/WilliamLewis

20070528 22:49:41 nbsp hey Evan, thanks for the feedback on the bike logo. Im glad you like it! D Users/EliseKane

20070531 22:49:46 nbsp Heya, check out my note at the bottom of this page (re: stickers / your brother may know?): wiki:wikispot:Community Discussion. Users/PhilipNeustrom

Holy wok, the jabber is back. ~Users/Davepoole

20070612 14:03:12 nbsp James edit sucks. There is no reason to leave it. Whats the point of including a joke if you deflate it? Users/WilliamLewis

20070614 00:32:29 nbsp Huzza! Great work JW Users/StevenDaubert

20070614 18:09:39 nbsp thanks for the cleanup! Users/ArlenAbraham

20070615 08:28:16 nbsp Oh shit, I knew we were forgetting something, we will have Tequila next time, and you are invited. Users/DavidPoole

20070615 09:18:39 nbsp As a turtle house resident, we still call it the turtle house and so does everyone else. Not sure if that means the controversy is over, but nothing has changed since the debate began. I have also never heard or seen complaints about keeping the name outside of the daviswiki. Users/JamesSchwab

20070615 09:31:07 nbsp I agree, but as a resident I dont want to delete the debate. Someone not involved on either side should probably do it. Users/JamesSchwab

20070622 09:58:20 nbsp You should leave the Summer wiki logo up longer, unless it was specifically just for the solstice. Users/JamesSchwab

20070628 20:49:30 nbsp http://www.daviswiki.org/Wiki_Community:All_Known_Macros {{{<}}} is the link the tip about macros points to... Users/StevenDaubert

20070702 11:39:27 nbsp Did you see the comment on the bottom of Users/JasonAller? Users/PhilipNeustrom

20070808 15:52:17 nbsp Thanks for the reply and link to the Gnomes Wiki. That looks perfect to answer my questions. Users/JoRo

20070809 12:48:24 nbsp My pleasure. How did you discover that poem? Users/BrianAng

20070809 16:57:42 nbsp No actually I wanted it on the Events Board, perhaps you could help.  Can I post this on the events board or do I have to link to an outside photo site (in my case, Picasa)?  Ive tried many things and not succeeded. Users/JasonDunne

20070810 12:57:07 nbsp Hmmmm thanks.  I thought I did this exactly but I guess I was doing something incorrectly. Users/JasonDunne

20070811 12:41:45 nbsp I respectfully disagree with a redirect for E 14th. 14th street is pretty long, and e 14th is known for the schools and the library while west 14th is residential.. They could be separate for sure Users/StevenDaubert

20070813 14:47:43 nbsp http://daviswiki.org/Old_Teahouse?actiondiff&at_date1187037839.0283301 Thank you. Users/KevinChin

20070815 09:03:33 nbsp Things look very good on Ivans page! You enlarged his pic better than I could do with Paint haha. Users/JamesSchwab

20070815 10:41:19 nbsp shrug I do what I can, but some entries I just tag because Im not in a position to add anything to them. Anyway, Ill try to do more than add seed tags when I come across bare entries from now on. :) Users/GeoffJohnson

20070816 10:23:45 nbsp Thanks, perfect on the ASUCD Controller entry. Users/PaulHarms

20070816 12:44:26 nbsp I dont get the little Aggie managers grid. Why only three positions? Why at all? Users/ElisaHough

20070817 10:38:34 nbsp You using a revert when even I wouldnt has got to be a first for you! :P Users/WilliamLewis

20070817 11:50:47 nbsp you are correct on steinwand.
 Users/JamesSchwab


20070817 18:57:32 nbsp I like what you did with the AAC Chairs! I think for many of the campus and asucd positions there should be preceded by and followed by. :) Users/StevenLee

20070818 13:15:59 nbsp San is a ending that intends to show respect to a person, and the name is a horrid americanization. With a name like that, the food cant be good, and when I was in there, it wasnt. Users/StevenDaubert

20070819 21:45:03 nbsp Yikes! Sorry about this... actually, I did not make those changes to the gunrock page. I log into daviswiki using several different computers & I have a habit of forgetting to log out of things. Looking at the IP address of that edit, I conclude that somebody has edited the gunrock content from a computer at work, where Im still logged in. I totally agree with the wrongness of stealing material from others.. thanks for the heads up! Users/BenjaminCatabas

Well, WilliamLewis got rid of it saying he didnt want comments from a troll  meaning me  on his page. I dont think your mild and patient explanation applies at all. Users/TheTallman

20070824 08:20:41 nbsp I would take boring over misleading anyday. Most genitic engineering has nothing to do with taste, often has more to do with hardyness, longevity, disese and pest resistance etc. I still think it should have a reference to genetic engineering, but dont honestly care that much so whatever. Users/PxlAted

20070824 14:03:31 nbsp awesome. Users/PxlAted

Is the wiki broken?

20070826 20:43:01 nbsp Which edit is your most recent comment to me referring to? Users/WilliamLewis

20070827 23:37:09 nbsp There are mistakes in the version you locked to and there was information removed. Youre also empowering Steve on his censormonkey crusade. Please reconsider your actions as the current version is rather flawed. Users/WilliamLewis
   Work it out on the Talk page with Steve.  Im not going to touch the content from here on out. Users/JabberWokky

20070830 01:55:23 nbsp Given the fact that you know totally rad edit techniques and secret commands unknown to me before now and your general elder statesmen status I will ask you this here rather than on the talk page. Why would you say that archiving something like that is a bad idea? If I had seen something like that when I had come across these concerns I wouldnt have pressed the matter. Like you said there should never be anything hard and fast in this type of things but a step for a hint for a clue that someone could quickly get pointed to when they see things they disagree with would be seem to me at least to be a helpful thing. Wikiethics is maybe a start (I didnt find anything deep enough to satisfy the questions I wanted but still the idea was there) but the discussion pages are incredibly ungainly and hard to follow. If this question gets pulled up often why shouldnt someone who knows what they are talking about create something in the same vein as the real name deal?

Anyway, beyond that I just want to say I meant no disrespect to the people who have put in hard work here.

 Users/CraigFergus

20070905 23:04:26 nbsp Yeah, thats what happens when theres a hot current event to edit! Users/KarlMogel

20070905 23:41:26 nbsp You know, I do need to pee... Users/KarlMogel

20070905 23:54:15 nbsp 10 minutes is Ban Steven Ostrowski not long enough :P  Users/EdWins

20070906 15:40:20 nbsp wait, youre in Trekkies II? I didnt even know they made another Trekkies documentary! Users/AmyLee

20070907 17:45:22 nbsp Are you sure theyre roommates? Maybe they just moved in together, because the IP addresses going back for months do not match up. Until Today. Users/KarlMogel

20070907 17:53:28 nbsp I would like to have my Empire Nation page unlocked so as to add the most recent show to it as a link.  That would be very satisfactory for me.  Also, I am going to need to have the SFL page unlocked before the month is over as there will be updates within that mouth.  If that could be done that would be great.    Users/SteveOstrowski

20070907 18:03:32 nbsp OK, it makes sense with Moving Day being one week ago in Davis. Im already forgetting this stuff  the equivalent day in Madison is Aug 14/15! Users/KarlMogel

20070907 23:02:17 nbsp Im prettttty sure theyre not roommates (Him and Gabe). Pretty positive, to be honest.  SO lives with Ronald Payne.  Users/EdWins
  Yup.  Ronald, Alexander, Gabe, Steven and guy who no one knows.  So saith complete and utter rumor.  This might be a new living arrangement, or could be completely wrong.  I dont really care much, but Id heard before this all happened (before Gabe posted to the SfL entry) something about them being roommates or were going to be.  Again, I have no certainty, so you could well be right.  Nor does it terribly much matter, unless you are implying that Gabe doesnt exist.  jw

20070907 23:24:57 nbsp Im also pretty positive Gabe exists :P   I suppose someone could simply have asked. But if they were roommates, then the whole I cant believe Steve took it this far thing would be pretty completely out of the blue. As it is, I used to read Steves blog, and theres Ron is mentioned multiple times, originally a roommate found in AIM. Big surprise that Ron was a big part of Steves ASUCD stuff, since he ran for senate.  I cant really imagine Steve and Gabe as roommates with all that kind of stuff (despite his love for secrets, the political use is just too high to stealth it), and again, pretty sure the rumor is false. I suppose its possible one could simply ask, though I dont know where this even came from (just saw a comment on Karls saying they are roommates).  Users/EdWins
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?vKTOJzBGRAIk The map in the background is mine in my room and the date of the video is April 14, 2007. Users/SteveOstrowski

20070909 17:06:46 nbsp I would pay good money to see that fight.  I think most people would. I say that we actually put some superglue inside the gloves.  Cant type and revert wearing those things!  Itd solve everyones problems. Users/EdWins

20070911 12:57:50 nbsp I dont mind if that part of the warning is removed, I only know reactionary political science logic, not real scientific logic LOL. Sort of a Klingon versus Vulcan ;) Users/JamesSchwab
   It makes sense to warn people, it is specifically the assertion that what is bad for a developing fetus is bad (or as bad) for a grown human that I dont like.  Plenty of medications are fine for adults, plenty of diseases are really minor to adults, and plenty of recreational drugs are fine for adults.  But there are medications that arent even supposed to be handled by women who might be pregnant, some minor diseases have profound effects on developing fetuses, and picture a very pregnant woman passed out on a couch after playing Edward 40 hands.  Not quite the same thing as a healthy nonpregnant adult in the same position, eh?  Its not the mercury is bad part that I dont like, but rather the idea that adults and developing fetuses have the same medical needs and concerns.  Its just a sloppy assumption.    Users/JabberWokky

20070924 12:43:50 nbsp Calling our involvement in Iraq “imperialism” isnt controversial. if I had written US genocide in Iraq it would be more true, more relevant and yet also more controversial. Your version is acceptable, just super vague. Users/PxlAted

20070926 12:32:55 nbsp Steve Os roomates name is Ronald Payne....but he already has a user name by that.  Users/JamesSchwab

20070926 12:46:53 nbsp Ya, my first too thoughts were his roomate or that the cheezy kid bootcamp movie starring Damon Wayans from the early 90s is really into ASUCD. Users/JamesSchwab

20070926 12:58:07 nbsp Ah, okay. Theyre all branches of the Student Recruitment and Retention Center. They mostly serve undergraduate students (except for GAAAP), but a few branches also tutor younger students in Davis, sometimes Woodland. Im more familiar with Yikal Kuyum, but Ill try to add content for the rest, too. Users/NumiaCairaguas

20070926 14:07:49 nbsp  The groups under the SRRC are not necessarily student organizations. They are funded by Academic Preparation money which use to be called Studet Initiated Outreach, which was created after the elimination of affirmative action. Basically the groups are funded by the Univeristy and a bit by ASUCD to recruit students from underserved communities and to promote rentention through various tutoring and mentorship programs. So while they are student run, they are beholden to the Universities purse and policy. Users/JamesSchwab

20070926 17:37:26 nbsp wow youre a really good gnome. also, I had some questions about whether a page is a good page for the wiki or not. examples might be pet animal pages or non user non notable person pages. could you tell me or direct me to something about that issue? Users/PxlAted

20070926 20:00:40 nbsp Thanks, JW.  I wanted to compose some copy for the page.  Then my mom called, you know how that goes.  Will save down some changes here shortly though. Users/jefftolentino

20070926 20:59:54 nbsp Thanks.  Im realizing that every bridge and every tunnel has its own unique character.   Tried to reflect that a little.  :) Users/jefftolentino

20070927 10:42:35 nbsp yup, works for me Users/KarlMogel


20071002 14:44:40 nbsp the security report was sent via email to everyone so i thought it was public information. is this not the case? Users/JessicaRockwell

20071003 19:36:39 nbsp What is an egg mit?  I keep wanting to say, egg mit what? Users/CovertProfessor
   http://www.noahs.com/index.cfm?fuseactionFood.Menu&SectionBreakfast Breakfast sandwiches at Noahs Bagels.Users/Edwins ES
    Yeah, I got that, but why the mits?  (sorry, jw, to carry on this conversation on your page, but youd remarked about it, and now I am curious). Users/CovertProfessor
       My guess is its a Jewish thing, maybe something in Yiddish?  That, or less likely, a New York thing.  Somewhere in the roots.Users/Edwins ES
        Yeah, it means with in Yiddish  thus my comment above: Egg mit what?  Egg with what?  In other words, theyre calling these things Egg with  wtf does that mean?  what is the egg with?  and where does the s on the end of mit come from?  But Im sure its supposed to be Yiddish; Noahs loves to (pretend to) do the Yiddish/NY thing.  Users/CovertProfessor
           Ive lived in South Florida for years, worked in Boca Raton for years, spent months in Manhattan (my employer at the times parent company was there), and I dated a woman for quite awhile whose mother taught Yiddish at a synagogue.  I have never heard of Egg Mits, nor seen one.  Wolfie Cohen never had it on his menus (that I know of). ... BUT... as I type this, the possible answer occurs to me: I think it might be Egg mit Bagel?  The odd suffix is because of a pluralization of the casual term that had dropped the bagel part of the name.  It does strike as odd, however, and Noahs is the only place that seems to use the phrase quite like that.  Users/JabberWokky
            Ah, yes, that makes sense, and explains how there can be a plain egg mit, which seemed like a contradiction in terms.  No more contradictory than the Egg Mit Turkey Sausage & Cheese though... Users/CovertProfessor

20071004 15:37:24 nbsp I was thinking to create a page on wikispot tracking the migration of city wikis. Like how local wikis sprang up from Davis, but then when people moved farther away, such as myself, they started wikis in those cities. Years down the road, people will be moving out of Madison to, I dont know, Skokie Illinois and start a wiki there. Might be interesting after a while, like a family tree of wikispot wikis. I was reminded of this by your comment about the wiki phone number cards. Users/KarlMogel

20071005 11:20:00 nbsp Thanks for the tip Users/KarlMogel

20071005 11:21:40 nbsp Sorry to hear about the honeymoon bug!  If you guys do come out to Ithaca, seriously, let me know.  Well meet up for dinner or something and give you some insight on what to check out while youre here. Users/JanelleAlvstadMattson


20071008 12:40:57 nbsp I spillllllllled water on my digital camera last weekend, if it reboots, Ill take a picture of the fish head wiki sign and upload it. otherwise, youll just have to borrow it when you table. :) Users/PxlAted


20071009 13:25:26 nbsp Yeah I did  thanks. Users/KarlMogel

20071007 19:23:18 nbsp Thanks for helping me edit! Ive mastered the asterisk bullet point thing, Ill eventually learn how to edit more! haha :) Users/AmyLee

20071009 02:43:19 nbsp Uh, I haver been here 5 years. Hello. Users/DavisLurker

20071009 06:43:21 nbsp Ya I will ad info as I get it. Im that involed anymore, although Im still on the listserv so I have vague ideas about whats going on. Ill put up more specifics when they come my way. 24.10.127.141

20071009 17:30:23 nbsp Wouldnt you want to make Davids ppublic page the candidate page? Users/JamesSchwab

20071012 09:02:00 nbsp I agreed with Jessica that id didnt quite seem like the work of CCCC. Just because it says its from them doesnt mean  its true.  thats all.   Users/PxlAted

20071013 02:04:05 nbsp why are you editing the GO page?  Users/EricFriedman

20071014 23:27:58 nbsp http://daviswiki.org/Toad_Hollow_Dog_Park?actiondiff&at_date1192429269.7674401 Perfect! Users/CovertProfessor

20071017 11:47:20 nbsp 3 pun.  Nicely done and subtle, but definitely a forehead slapper.  Users/EdWins

20071024 19:39:28 nbsp Thanks for your gracious comment and explanation.  If I actually placed one of the photos in question on the page Im afraid it might give folks grounds to take legal action.  I hope that by simply linking to an otherwise copyrighted photo I wont get into trouble.  (Not that any of the parties in question would let me take their photo, anyway!  :) ) Users/RichLindvall

20071026 11:23:55 nbsp wtf...... WTF?!?!???! Users/WilliamLewis

20071030 12:05:34 nbsp nice logo. Users/PxlAted

20071101 08:23:21 nbsp http://daviswiki.org/Upsilon_Sigma_Alpha?actiondiff&version275&version174 But... Greg is in the group.  (Yes, hes obviously teasing and its semantics, but I thought saying their game was funny).  Users/EdWins

20071102 20:26:15 nbsp Thank you for your positive comment on the Recovering From Spiritual Abuse page.  I may take you up on your suggestion to start a Wiki with that topic.  As the saying goes run it up a flagpole and see if anybody salutes!  I appreciate your involvement with Davis Wiki, even from far away Pennsylvania!  Go Nittany Lions!!! Users/RichLindvall

20071104 15:40:44 nbsp very interesting... Another awesome peeve NIC card

<3 Users/StevenDaubert

20071108 20:10:56 nbsp Delightfully unexpected  What a great phrase!  Sounds downright serendipitous!  When we left Davis we were searching for a similar nonfreezing climate, except in the northwest.  Narrowed it down to Corvallis or the Palouse.  We ended up in Corvallis since it was only a days UHaul drive away, and the climate is milder.  Still, the Palouse is intriguingwith two major universities only 8 miles apart (WSU & U of I)and the nearest freeway some 50 miles away!  If I had another life to live I think Id like to live in Moscow, Idaho.  (Home of the U of I Vandalsisnt that a great mascot!?) Thanks again for your encouragement from far off Pennsylvania! Users/RichLindvall

20071111 11:14:38 nbsp The Dennys stopped allowing studying in 1999, and shortly thereafter, it closed. Users/FeralFeline

20071111 18:11:00 nbsp Nice addition (the birch one..) I just saw that randomly earlier and had a good chuckle. Users/EdWins

20071114 15:53:41 nbsp I get it. I was confused because I rarely view the wiki unauthenticated and missed the benefit of the macro since to me it appeared plain as day email in the browser which I know spam bots can read. Thanks. Users/AlexMandel

20071114 18:06:48 nbsp I could study for my GRE, or I could go around replacing all the seeds with an alternate version. Include(Apathy)

What to do, what to do.  mwhaha. Users/EdWins

20071117 21:55:53 nbsp Thank you very much for your kind words.
My name is Ariane, please call me Aree (arrrrre). Users/ArianeMetz

20071120 22:00:08 nbsp It seemed inconsistent without the redirect. There were links to the original page, as well as the users version, and everyone else has theirs redirect appropriately. Maybe Tim got missed in the build release that set everyones page to redirect to the users one? Users/PaulAmnuaypayoat

20071121 12:35:08 nbsp Thank you for your input on the matter. Apparently some other people would prefer to start a war rather than pass along 1 comments worth of information. Users/PaulAmnuaypayoat

20071122 12:01:14 nbsp Wheres the thanksgiving logo? Users/JamesSchwab

20071123 22:05:27 nbsp Jabber,

The information contained on a website that has information about me must be subject to my review. This is not a newspaper. The editors of the wiki are not trained journalists, but rather members of the public. I have not been interviwed by anyone editing my wiki page. What if someone from the Sac Bee published a story about me, without interviewing me, misquoting me, and misrepresenting me? In the real world, this reporter would be subject to a lawsuit!

The issue is that my personal page comes up under a google search, and it is available for anyone in the world to see. So, since this website is about me, dont you think that I should be able to edit a website that is exclusively devoted to me and activities I am involved in?

This is nuts. I obviously cant control what others do, but in my mind this is an abuse of wiki priveldges. Is it any wonder why the real wikipedia doesnt allow anyone to just edit a page however they see fit? Thus, they are a relatively credible source.

Anyway, if people insist on changing my page, then I will insist that the page be taken down. Users/EricFriedman

20071123 23:01:51 nbsp Jabber,

I would argue that Im not a public figure insofar that I do not hold a public office (please see my brief in ASUCD Court Case 424344.

But, thats not the issue. Ive already  told you that a page that is ABOUT ME should be subject to my review! Please let me know who designated the two page policy, one for the public to edit, and one personal page. There is no difference between the two. Both are pages about a specific user.

If James Schwabs or anyone else for that matter wants to create a page called My view on Eric Friedman, interviews me and doesnt contain any slanderous material, I would not object.

You belive that anyone who runs for an elected office is subject to public scrutiny? I do as well, and believe me, I have recieved a lot. But, this does mean that I am subject to censorship! If James Schwab wants to make comments about the page in the comments section, I think that is acceptable.

This is really insane. Who is the webmaster of the wiki? Please let me know who is in charge of this so I can discuss this matter with him or her. Users/EricFriedman

20071123 23:57:43 nbsp Thx. I get a little protective about local businesses, so its good to have feedback. If that person had a user page, signed his/her name, etc., I suppose it wouldnt be unreasonable to put an entry about another theater at the Varsity page. But it just looked like a driveby posting as it was. Users/DonShor

20071124 00:27:55 nbsp Mr. Edwards,

Thank you for taking the time to explain to me the way the wiki works.

Now, let me tell you the way I work. I am not community property. No one owns me but me. The page that is about me is my property. There is no other way to look to at it. Under your reasoning, becasue I hold an elected office in the UC Davis student government, it is OK for people to slander my name? This is ludicrous. I am getting fed up with this.

I completely disagree with the Wikis philosophy and I want nothing to do with the wiki community.

I will be deleting my page. Do not recreate it. Or is this against the wiki principles? I do not want to be a part of the wiki if I am subject to slander and harrassment. Does that make sense? Do you understand?

 Users/EricFriedman

20071124 15:52:38 nbsp Jabber,

Why do you keep on comparing the Wiki to a newspaper? The Wiki and Newspapers are not the same at all.

Newspapers have journalists that do investigative work, that research articles. While some entries on the Wiki live up to this standard (mostly business entries), many entries about individuals or ASUCD politics do not. Please show me how a website that allows anyone who signs up to edit entries is analagous to a newspaper? Newspapers HIRE their staff and editors. They allow people to submit commentary, but all commentary is subject to the editors review. Maybe, you could make a claim that the wiki is analagous to the National Enquirer. That would be the closest connection I would see.

No one at the wiki clears posts. What if someone posts something wrong? You would say that other editors would catch it, right? But, what if no one else knows if a piece of information is accurate?

Previously, someone posted an entry on my page that was just not true. How can I guard against random people posting slanderous material on my page? Im not going to be roaming the wiki 24 hours a day. And, who do I have to compain to? No one. The community? Well, the community is mostly composed of my rivals in student government!

Do you see my point? Do you see the inequity that occurs here?

Your camparison of the wiki to a newspaper is seriously flawed and the philosophy of the wiki is seriously flawed as well.

So, I will continue to keep my account and I will continue to delete my page whenever I log on. This is the only solution I can see under these circumstances. Users/EricFriedman
 The comparison to the newspaper is to highlight the fact that you cant just demand that someone change something they wrote against you. The analogy is a bad one because of all the journalistic standards are confusing you. wl

20071126 21:42:40 nbsp Automatic vectorization rocks! Users/PhilipNeustrom

20071128 11:17:00 nbsp I would love it if someone could help us figure out how.  The problem is two Davids at Davids Haircutting.  We keep getting each others new clients!  No matter what I do they cant seem to figure out the two different last names... Users/Davidlm

20071130 16:26:16 nbsp thanks for restructuring the sams page. I always like when you edit after me, always better wordered and more organized. thanks. Users/PxlAted

20071202 07:01:22 nbsp Was it Norwegian bull kelp? I hear thats the quality stuff. Users/KellyCorcoran

20071202 21:23:30 nbsp I dont know what he wanted, he just emailed me asking me to take down his entries. I would assume it has to do with the story. Users/JamesSchwab

20071202 23:53:29 nbsp five meese in a huge custom built mouse cage.  pictures and info please!  Tempted to build my own little guys a nicer home.  Users/EdWins

20071206 20:58:18 nbsp what are you doing? I was cleaning the page up? Revert to the last version. I modified my comments under the court heading. Users/EricFriedman

20071207 20:28:33 nbsp Oh my god, how long have you been waiting for someone to mention a reuben sandwich??  :) Users/CovertProfessor

20071214 19:40:06 nbsp I honor your status as the Bakers Square/Everyday Pies Link Master. Before you stands a page of text and in your eyes the possibilities are seen and with your fingers they are made real. No unlinkable page can stand before your ability. Users/JasonAller
  ^^,,bows,,^^ I am awed by this linkage. ~Dave

20071215 10:33:33 nbsp I couldnt find any info either and I didnt live in Davis at the time. It does seem suspicious that the claims are changing and becoming more extreme. Mike Curro http://www.whitepages.com/search/FindPerson?extra_listingmixed&form_modeopt_b&post_back1&firstname_begins_with1&firstnameMichael&nameCurro&street&city_zip95616&state_id&localtimesurvey is listed as the owner of Signature Theaters LLC on whitepages.com so at least that much is true.  Users/ElleWeber

20071215 17:23:25 nbsp Were you testing out my comment box for me?  How thoughtful. Users/MattStauffer

20071218 11:12:12 nbsp How should we deal with the advertisements the apartment complexes put on their pages? I added announcement form management, but wasnt sure what else. Users/JamesSchwab
  Id kick the question to the Wiki Community.  Personally, I work with the acid test of is it helpful to the community, which makes sense for menus and specials on restaurants, and would probably apply to any open house or similar announcement.  The entry for Tandemonium is quite salesy right now, but thats to be expected with only one editor so far having poked at it.  Im going to give them serious credit for having included the link back to the Housing Guide and Apartments entry.  The difference between information about deals and spam is pretty much if theres input from everybody and its presented as an option alongside others versus hyperbole oneway we are your only solution information with no allowance for everybody (customers, mostly) to add their input.  So far, the person editing under AdobeManagement seems to be probusiness but not anticustomer (leaving reviews in place, keeping links to competitors).  A probusiness and procustomer (and proanybody else) policy seems to be the best way to serve all the parts of the Davis community.  (IMO, etc etc... this really should go to Wiki Community) jw
     Thanks. I couldnt remember if this discussion had already taken place. JS

20071221 21:46:16 nbsp Thanks for adding the single user on the crazy comment on the smooth as silk page.  Youre a sweetie. Users/Stellaforbes

20071225 07:58:39 nbsp Im happy you loved Chicos decorated tree!  Thanks! Have a terrific Christmas! Users/RyanMikulovsky

20071227 08:25:22 nbsp Yes that is true, i didnt make it clear in the post. Sweet onions can be somewhat less strong when raw though, but its a crap shoot whenever you serve a raw onion. Thats why i always taste it before i decide how im going to use the onion in a salad. Users/MattHh

20071229 14:43:28 nbsp Thanks for teaching me a bit about the site. If I seem a bit sensitive, its because he is my brother and I love him very much. I have watched people tease him our whole lives and have little patience for it. So I will try to correct or respond in kind to any misconception that anyone might have. He is an incredible person. You should take the time someday and shake his hand. I appreciate your patience and helpfulness. Heres to a peaceful and happy new year. Thanks, Mike Waltz Users/gager

20071231 13:28:51 nbsp Are you sure there arent animated PNGs? How then does HimySyed upload all his animated tinylogos? Users/PhilipNeustrom
  They are gif files that were uploaded before the new feature that tests the filetype and corrects the extension.  Download one and run file: {{{tinylogo.png: GIF image data, version 89a, 16 x 16}}}.  There are a few proposed animated PNG formats (like APNG), but the MNG format is the official and most adopted solution, but it only has very light browser support (where PNG was a few years ago).  It wouldnt help in this case anyway, as it has a different mimetype and file extension so it would presumably be renamed as well (and wouldnt work in most browsers anyway).  Basically, unless there are other Konqueror users, Id be the only one to be able to see it (although KDE4 will run on OSX and Windows, Im not expecting a huge expansion in users overnight).  Mozilla removed support for MNG due to lack of real world use.  APNG was checked into Mozilla 3, but has since been officially rejected by the PNG working group, and it looks like it too will be removed.  libpng and libmng obviously support them, but browsers... not so much.  Basically, for animation, .gif is the only real world web solution (outside of things like flash and dhtml, obviously).  It has a tainted history, but is completely free now.  Unix itself came out of the biggest, nastiest monopoly around, but BSD and Linux arent tainted by their heritage... .gif probably deserves more respect than it gets for the niche it fills (at least now that it is patent free).  In a bizarre little twist, I had a dream about .gif last night.  Yeah, my REM rolls like that.  Users/JabberWokky
  Just double checked: wiki:wikipedia:Comparison of Web Browsers.  Konqueror is the only listed that supports any of the animated PNG formats. jw

20080105 20:21:21 nbsp I think people are refreshing the page and ignoring the POST warning.  This might be happening so frequently on this page because the people are new to editing and they want uptodate information so their instinct is to refresh.  We could fix it by doing a redirect after the post. Users/PhilipNeustrom

20080108 00:58:50 nbsp which of my edits was your note about? Users/DonShor

20080108 10:08:56 nbsp LOL! I was sitting there thinking, why would he care what I wrote about Davis Nursery?  Ok: I think snarky comments about how bad their expresso is, how bad their cappuccino is, and how all Davis coffee shops serve bad expresso, are clearly a comment not an objective or even reasonable description of Mishkas. IMO it belongs in comments. I do have an aversion to unfounded negative comments about local businesses, as they have a tendency to affect the local business. In the comments section, the next person can simply refute it. I suppose I could have gone in and edited the text to say no, their expresso is great, and so is the expresso at other coffee shops in Davis, but I think you can see how that would be less effective. If she has an opinion about the place, she can write a comment as everyone else does.  Users/DonShor

20080108 13:08:07 nbsp Hey, how do you look at the edits by a user who has a user page? e.g., Shelly?  Users/DonShor

20080108 17:51:44 nbsp Does the Orphaned Pages not pick up on links in the information bar at the top? I found Hanover Drive in the Orphaned Pages list but when I went to link it to Hanover Place Apartments (which is located on Hanover Drive) there was already a link there. But when I went back to the Hanover Drive page, it said that nothing linked there. Can you explain that to me? Is it because of the mapping macro? Is there anyway around that?

(Ha, now that Ive written you this comment, I have effectively linked Hanover Drive from somewhere) Users/ElleWeber

20080109 13:41:07 nbsp When I went to see what linked to the Hanover Drive page, the information said it was an orphan. But there is now a link to Hanover Drive from both Hanover Place Apartments and Anderson Place Apartments within the Address() macros, the latter of which you added. But when I visit the http://daviswiki.org/Hanover_Drive?actioninfo&links1 links information for Hanover Drive it still says the only place that links there is your page, from the comment I left yesterday (and now this one). Im thinking that it cant pick up links within the Address macro, and decides the page is an orphan when it isnt.

Oh, and thanks :)  Users/ElleWeber

20080109 19:56:59 nbsp Thanks for renaming Main Street Market  I actually dont know how to do that.  So I left it after I saw the mistake :\ Users/ChristopherMckenzie

20080113 17:53:54 nbsp See my reply on my page. Users/SteveDavison

20080116 17:05:11 nbsp What is this?  I didnt know Dr. Drew was going daytime. . .where can I find this?  I have a lot of respect for him and find that he gives sound advice. Users/CurlyGirl26

20080116 17:07:23 nbsp Oh and re: my pseudonym. It is just a quirky name I made up, but the reason I use it is due to safety reasons.  I found myself in a scary situation so for now, I am keeping a low profile.  I thought this would be a way for me to participate on Davis wiki. Users/CurlyGirl26

20080116 19:16:01 nbsp Re: redirects and (sort of) what Users/TimQuick commented on, when a redirect links to a redirect, the second redirect doesnt occur (eg. with EC Garden). Is there anyway to fix that? Or do we just have to go through and fix the original link?  Users/ElleWeber

20080116 19:21:21 nbsp Never mind. I saw what Users/JasonAller http://daviswiki.org/EC_Garden?actiondiff&version210&version19 did and I guess you just fix the first redirect to link to the correct site.  Users/ElleWeber

20080123 08:45:47 nbsp I was waiting to consult Beard on Pasta before reintroducing the paragraph :) Users/CraigBrozinsky

20080126 14:12:15 nbsp Well, that makes some sense.  but I think duplication should be avoided...  It would be better to combine the related material and have two separate pages for two separate topics rather than one that overlaps the other.  IMHO, of course. Users/WesHardaker

20080207 18:50:04 nbsp I humbly demand more information about Dr. Drews radio show Users/StevenDaubert

20080216 19:51:06 nbsp Sure, actually. Im talking to a guy at Pacifica.org, and hes giving me some useful tips, and helping me get set up for syndication. Send me an email and lets talk about radio! Users/KarlMogel

20080220 22:46:15 nbsp Thanks for the ban on LPE, he was writing some pretty messed up things. Users/EliYani

20080224 03:19:31 nbsp i notice that you restore deleted comments on wiki pages.  how do you monitar so many different pages?  i also notice that you are not the only one who does that.  i just want to say that i am very grateful for those of you who put in the effort and time to make this a fair and honest medium for information exchange.  Users/ChingChing

20080224 03:19:31 nbsp A while ago I asked in the FAQ if it was possible to include video in an article.  I had specifically asked of it would be possible to use my own HTML code because thats what I do on my web site.  Obviously it would be a security big issue.  I thought about it more, and I think the method I describe below would work and could be interesting.

http://www.vidiac.com/websiteowner.aspx Vidiac offers a package that lets you upload video in pretty much the YouTube manner (Vidiac predates YouTube) but with better video quality.  If a Vidiacbased site was set up for a community (rather than national) then locals could upload video, and using http://www.streetfire.net/ StreetFire.nets method, they could insert a video/videotype command to embed the video.  (For details: http://forums.streetfire.net/showthread.php?t6941) Wiki would have to write the video/video routines, but Im sure StreetFire would help.  (Ive mentioned this to them.)  Anyway, for the authors of articles its easy, and thered be no security issues.

A localoriented videohosting service itself would be a good thing.  It would offer a place to upload content that is only of local interest, perhaps not even something that we would ever post on youtube.  If kids uploading things they want to show their friends is a concern, then more than likely theyd rather put it on youtube.  A local http://www.vidiac.com/websiteowner.aspx Vidiac site would be a place to host videos of things like city council meetings, high school sports, Davis Community cable productions, school plays, UCD videos, and of course videos that wiki authors would want to put in their articles. Users/m610, Mike Meier

20080225 07:35:09 nbsp re medical services, 1. theyre the only thing on the list not in davis. 2 the 12 step programs are a total scam that dont work any better than any other program, AND the fact that the prison industrial complex is pimping this religious shit makes it even more offensive. also, please dont delete my references to god, its important. Just because you dont like it, doesnt mean it shouldnt be there. Users/PxlAted

20080225 08:03:50 nbsp compromise? Users/PxlAted

20080225 08:31:21 nbsp as always, youre the gnome with the plan and a good compromise up his sleeve. works for me. Users/PxlAted

20080225 15:40:01 nbsp I love it!  You have to share the results of your little experiment.  btw. . .Ive been looking for Dr. Drew on the am dial, but I can t find him!  I read somewhere that hes on 1260 from 111pm.  Do you know where he is?  I may be getting too old to listen to Loveline!    Users/CurlyGirl26

 The 11th Tradition doesnt preclude informational broadcasts. unstoner

20080226 00:47:31 nbsp Hi, my hometown of Milpitas has a wiki, but it has said that it is under construction with no signs of any progress at all, for a while.  Some friends and I would like to start making it into a real page, and we were wondering how to best start on this. Any help you could give would be much appreciated, thanks. Users/EliYani

20080227 00:15:50 nbsp Thanks for the link!  I love Dr. Drews am show!  The format is great and delves deeper into the topics discussed.   Users/CurlyGirl26

20080228 22:56:41 nbsp Methinks that the Willows Management really does not like that (perfectly accurate and representative) picture of The Willows that they keep deleting in favor of their apartment logo. Users/IDoNotExist

20080229 07:12:24 nbsp The picture sure looks accurate to me... definitely not out of date. Users/IDoNotExist

20080303 14:54:50 nbsp Not to be a huge noob or anything, but how do I archive comments/info.? Do I need to create the page and then just copy & paste?

Thanks Users/AndrewBianchi

20080303 20:32:47 nbsp its common slang in finance to purchase money for the  amount, so if I purchase 2 2 dollars bills for 4 dollars, sure we just traded, but they call it buying...

anyways, enjoy my discombobulated comment that has no frame of reference, and have a pleasant day Users/StevenDaubert

20080303 23:11:47 nbsp {{{
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I just had to include this on your page :P Users/DavidPoole
  I defend myself by pointing out that I had typed the reply before you said your previous line, and hit enter before I read it.  Darn IRC lag... :)

20080304 14:50:38 nbsp http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/not_really_into_pokemon.png heh Users/EdWins


Not sure how you came to the poop conclusion, especially if you had looked at the comment made for the edit(s). The problem with (rather, for) the Unitarian church is that the Ge0cities page wrongly list the Unitarian church as the site of a MA meeting. If the church name is spelled correctly on Wikidavis, the already too high relevance of that site to the church  and MA is greater on search engine results pages (SERPs), when Im trying to decrease the visibility the Ge0cities page. The church would also like the site to go away. Users/unstoner

First, Im throwing around poop (and no apology offered when objection made), then Im now spreading some unspecified lie with unspecified spam. Cant be sure of what is being insinuated. Good correct info cant be a lie or spam. Enough of the whine. I made edits made convoluted meet by odd restrictions and even odder and offthemark rationals. Silly as it seems, changing Wikidaviss policy is not worth the effort and, I hope, will be unneeded. Users/unstoner

Nothing misleading or dishonest was attempted and no fake information was added. By having the correct data and links on Wikidavis, the harm can be mitigated and possibly reversed while serving the community well. Moreover, the benefit to the site user is the first concern in all of this. The search engine issues are secondary, though legitimate, concerns. Nonetheless, Ive complied and made edits to meet curious sensibilities apparently more concerned with form than substance. I still have no idea what Lets not poop on neighbors means and the humor is hard to fathom.  If I took offense is not at issue, I did take offense, and was clear about it. Ill note that the still vague and broad accusation of posting lies and spam on Wikidavis has not been retracted. This makes the attempted humble apology hard to accept and appearing to be neither.

Apology and retraction accepted and since the content as it is serves good purposes  already reflected in SERPs , Ill consider everything else is resolved and the civil disagreements about SEO are now unimportant. Users/unstoner

20080307 09:10:37 nbsp Yeah, I should have... I was just muddling my way through it. :) Ill go back and fix them.  Users/ElleWeber

The yes or no question presumes a lot  such as I am manipulating SERPs, in a way that can do damage and the needs of the site user is diregarded and thwarted. On obscure search terms search engines will draw and associate keywords from URLs becuase they are not finding them in more visible locations. Consequently, to have Geo spelled out means Wikidavis is voting for a web site that is wrong and unfortuantely unremoveable. Youre suggesting that Wilkidavis should via associated keywords help it to show high in SERPs by naming it. To avoid doing that, while in no way misleading anyone  quite the oppipsite, in fact  and working to avoid spreading out of date inforation to people who truly need to have correct information, is a desired goal. The objection to this is hard to understand, and the interagoraty demand is unfair and should be withdrawn. With is the wrong and what is the harm? Users/unstoner

Youre not addressing any of the above and are likewise subject to the question. Are you trying to manipulate SERPs as well? (You started it. wont do as a defense). And, do you take responsiblity for the bad results you will cause and could easily prevent?  Users/unstoner

Wok, I know this response goes at least in part to someone else, but here it is. Its time to everyone to slow down. I have complied with the preference for not having it missspelled Ge0cities and have no intention to get into a revert war.  So a lot of the aruguments seems moot. Now why do we have to be explicit and actually name the wrong page enough for search engines to associate it with keywords, and thereby validate it, when the page as it is does the job very well? The community is informed, helped and not mislead in any way.  Your peference would have the unfortunate and opposite effect. As for getting the page down, I would do that in a heartbeat. I have already made attempts to do so. So how is this done?

P.S. Welcome to the web. Its sounds like you were hoping for something else. You cant abdicate the affect of Wikidavis, the idea is to make sure your side of the street is clean. Theres a good probability that search engine issues can become standard fare and that will oblige you to deal with them, albeit reluctantly. Users/unstoner


20080307 14:27:21 nbsp Glad you appreciate it  one office manager actually asked me if I could update the prices for her when I called and told her the price Id seen on the wiki! Users/AynReyes

20080309 12:04:07 nbsp it would appear the python implosion was fixd ~30 minutes after I left you said message

<3 Users/StevenDaubert

20080309 12:41:14 nbsp Ya, didnt get prntscreens but considered it, next time Users/StevenDaubert

What other ents?  Update,never mind. If you want to revert, I wont have a problem with it Users/unstoner

20080312 12:40:18 nbsp The California Aggie has changed their website again, which means all the links dont work....is there an easy way to fix all of them? Users/JamesSchwab

20080314 09:47:39 nbsp hey! thanks for the kind words, for listening, and for calling in!! (im gonna see whats up with the bad phone number). Users/JessicaRockwell

Anytime Jab, those little Wiki link icons sure look cute and add so much. ;} Users/unstoner

20080316 14:51:20 nbsp I guess I will once I figure out how to edit these pages properly (for example, how to reply to your comment without me using the comments thing to create a new comment). Ive mostly been commenting on stuff cause thats the easiest thing to do rather than editing pages. I am computer savvy, but not yet wikisavvy. However, your comment has motivated me to compile my Rolodex into a wikisuitable list. Any recommendations on how to post it would be appreciated. Users/SunjeetBaadkar

Well, Ol Jab, if your done telling me how to feel and presuming what I feel, heres my reply. Ill guess that your reacting to my saying it might be best and more courteous to ask what is the relevance first, rather than risk presuming from ignorance that there is none. Since that was the only comment directed to you, your reply seems completely out of proportion, especially when it goes as low as to include ridicule. More on that later. Your saying  I proposed a revision with an edit... is a contradiction and an attempt to have it both ways. You either propose an edit, or you at least signify it is a proposed edit. You did neither.  In your case, it seemed more than proposed when it was to remove not really relevant info.  Youve also falsely accused me of being combative about every edit! Besides being not so when several significant edits have not provoked alleged, unvaried combative  reactions (look up a few comments to see proof otherwise), this also ignores how quarrelsome and belligerent you have been  you may remember your heated yes or no interrogation, which centered around how to precisely refer to how the defunct Davis meeting which was so particularly contentious. Why should it be surprising that your most recent edit bring to mind another escalation on your part regarding almost the same issue as before?  What could be in doubt about my goals?  If you have solid basis to challenge them, please do, otherwise, youre on another fishing expedition.  Your only valid concern is whether the entries and edits of them are good or bad.  Im glad to hear Theres no disagreement here,  and that my explanatory comments seem to have had some good affect. Unfortunately, they have also prompted personal, patronizing and smug remarks like The sun still shines, somebody loves you.... I  imagine a subsequent retort of yours saying your still taking it way too seriously, Dude.  If your response was actually measured and patient as it pretends to be, I wouldnt have grounds to suggest the same of you. — Users/unstoner

Nah. You could apply your advice and just Apply compress, take two aspirin, place head between legs.  Any wonder why Im not eager to phone you?
— Users/unstoner
Im all for a fresh start. Barring vociferous objections, Ill delete your comments from my user page tomorrow. If you were to delete mine, I think that would allow a lot of inside baseball to go away. Kind of like its time to toss out some trash. I dont plan on doing much more on Wiki for some time since the Wiki pages, seem to be in god shape are doing a good job of providing the correct MA to those who need it in the greater  Sacramento area.  You are, of course, welcome to attend any of our meetings.  Unstoner

20080320 21:07:15 nbsp Cause she asked me to :) Users/DanXie

20080325 03:01:57 nbsp oh is that talk page ever win Users/StevenDaubert

20080325 09:18:33 nbsp Id suggest the addition of a (free) WiFi field for the restaurant and business templates.  Its useful to know where you can get a connection when you are deciding where to go.  This would probably have to be retrofitted onto existing business and restaurant pages. Users/IDoNotExist

20080325 11:02:52 nbsp Ive added a few additional fields to the restaurants tab.  If people like them, is there a way to propagate them to the other restaurant wiki entries without doing so manually? Users/IDoNotExist

20080325 11:05:02 nbsp Not sure how the wiki backend is managed currently, but perhaps template fields could be autofilled from data in a database.  This would allow new fields to be added as needed, with changes reflected throughout the wiki where appropriate, without having to update every wiki page manually.  (Or does this already exist?) Users/IDoNotExist

20080325 11:12:45 nbsp An idea for an additional template: Map.  This would show the subject of the page on a google map plot (perhaps embedded in another wiki page?)  It might also show, for example. the location of all apartments in Davis, all restaurants in Davis (color coded by food type), Wifi locations, cell reception for each carrier at different locations, event locations, etc. Users/IDoNotExist

20080325 14:17:20 nbsp Errr...yeah.  Exactly like that sort of thing.  :)  Id never noticed it before for some reason, even though it was right in front of me... Users/IDoNotExist

20080329 12:54:10 nbsp This is so random, but every time I see your name (Jabberwokky) I think about this live action movie they made of Alice Through the Looking Glass.  In case you havnet seen it, there is this scaryass Jabberwokky who stalks Alice throughout Wonderland.  And John Stamos (preUncle Jessie) is in the film and he plays the White Knights messenger.  But that doesnt have anything to do with what I was talking about.  Yea. . .good times with A.D.D. Users/CurlyGirl26

20080331 17:35:39 nbsp Who is the person on the Davis Wiki logo? Users/IDoNotExist

20080401 03:09:06 nbsp Thanks for the deletions.  And if youre awake now, I will head to sleep. Users/BrentLaabs

20080405 15:17:39 nbsp Oops, got confused by your different personal pages. Restating comment Re: Featured Page on Davis wiki: Thanks  have any edits to make the text of the proposed Featured Page? Users/JoRo

20080406 16:57:19 nbsp I have a spreadsheet of most of the apartments in Davis, their features, locations, and prices (although the pricing info is now out of date).  This could be a very useful resource for people who are apartment hunting, however it is in Excel format, which is not so useful for group editing.  The advantage to using this spreadsheet is that all of the data is in one place, and people can easily eliminate any apartments that dont interest them.  Any thoughts on how this could be added to the wiki and kept up to date?  (I do not have time to maintain it.) Users/IDoNotExist

20080411 15:53:16 nbsp Sorry I deleted the other featured page. I figured since its due today, if you havent seen it by now, its kinda too late to draw up a respectable grant application. Users/BrandonBarrette

20080411 17:22:43 nbsp Caaaaaaarrrrrrooooollllllllaaaaaaaaaa!!! Users/CurlyGirl26

20080411 17:37:46 nbsp Do you think we should just delete the volunteer thing until after picnic day, then make the featured page the volunteer thing? It kinda looks weird there with that one little line under picnic day. Just a thought... Users/BrandonBarrette

20080411 19:02:12 nbsp Sounds good. Ill leave it and work on thinking of ways to expand that to promote volunteer week... Users/BrandonBarrette

20080412 10:39:16 nbsp Thanks for updating the ADHD and giving it a format. Users/CurlyGirl26

20080414 00:16:07 nbsp Thanks for the comment, but I felt the Wooz entry was inaccurate and overreaching in the description of It is boring.  So I corrected the main entry in what I felt to be a reasonable manner.  I certainly do not know of rules applying to Wikipedia in this regard, nor was I thinking of such as you imply when I made my change.  I was trying to present a more balanced entry on the subject for viewing, and allow more personal opinions and viewpoints to be on the comments.  Hope that clears up the rationale on my change commented on.  :) Users/JeffWood

20080415 15:24:55 nbsp Got it. Thanks :)  Users/ElleWeber


20080428 00:10:07 nbsp Hi, I havent read any fantasy novels recently, but usually I read fantasy novels with female heroines. Tamora Pierce is my current favorite. Users/AmyTrinh

20080507 16:55:53 nbsp Wow!  Thank you for the help!  Its great that this software can be replicated so easily for community networking.

The images look great.  I replaced the image files in the general settings, but I dont see them coming up...?  I also like the small bicycle photo as well.
 Users/ChristaJones

20080508 10:31:06 nbsp The KDVS people have been up in the press box during every game that Ive worked. I dunno if they have their own special place or not, but theyre definitely up there.. Users/WilliamLewis

20080508 22:21:12 nbsp Thank you, again!  I got it to work and I think it looks quite nice.  :) Users/ChristaJones

20080513 13:29:58 nbsp Thank you for your help, Jabberwokky!  Its obvious that Im still learning.  What I lack in knowledge and skill, I make up for in enthusiasm.   Users/CurlyGirl26

20080513 13:33:35 nbsp good call on the TOC on ADHD page Users/StevenDaubert

20080516 18:39:19 nbsp You have opened my eyes to the world of barbecue.  I wish to learn more. Users/SunjeetBaadkar

20080516 19:42:46 nbsp What is the backend software used to run the Davis Wiki?  Would you recommend it?  What does it run on, and what is the hardware load?   Users/IDoNotExist

20080517 00:25:25 nbsp Im looking for a wiki that is low maintenance, and that can support the needs of 100200 people.  Id like it to support comments, searching, and complex formatting, like you find here. Users/IDoNotExist

20080517 21:07:57 nbsp How DARE you!  Correcting me on the distinction between tex mex and southwestern cousine.  And in a public forum, too!  <smile> Users/CurlyGirl26

20080518 17:01:39 nbsp The welcome to the Wiki page currently reads: The Importance of using your RealName cannot be underestimated.  This should probably be overestimated, unless using your RealName has no importance at all. Users/IDoNotExist

 Well, I think its a matter of opinion either way you see it.  Some people believe using your real name online has such great importance that doing so puts them at risk of identity theft or what not (many people go so far as to do this in real life when leaving contact information, or lack thereof, at a business when its necessary for the customer to be contacted for whatever reason).  Then again, some people think that using your real name when saying something online has no significance either way and its a nonissue (sort of like how people make a single comment on Daviswiki and never log on again...or how someone tries to get an employee of a retail store fired by complaining to the persons superior just because they werent treated like a VIP or something).  So perhaps its both under and overestimated. Users/SunjeetBaadkar

20080518 19:15:34 nbsp Perhaps it should read then, The importance of using your RealName can not, and should not, be estimated, since such an estimate probably isnt particularly meaningful to anyone (unless you think it is, in which case, perhaps it should!)  :) Users/IDoNotExist

20080520 07:54:30 nbsp Haha, yes, I figured that. Nice touch on the 3/5th clause. If people dont catch it now, I dont know if they ever will. Users/BrandonBarrette

20080520 08:31:26 nbsp Is there really a city of Yolo?  I couldnt find a reference to it anywhere, only that there are parts of Yolo County that are unincorporated.  And if that is right, then outside city might be the exact opposite of what one is supposed to say if one is a resident of Davis.  (On the other hand, Ive entered different ones on different occasions, and it doesnt seem to make a difference  Im also trying to figure out why I am being asked, but no luck yet). Users/CovertProfessor

20080520 10:07:02 nbsp Ive put inside and Ive put outside, and Ive managed to get the item either way.  But I keep waiting to get something kicked back to me. Users/CovertProfessor

20080526 20:29:21 nbsp isnt it awesome that in times of lore it was an insult to bid someone a good day?

<3 Users/StevenDaubert

20080530 15:34:23 nbsp Hey JabberWokky  Thanks for your comment. I posted a comment back, and Id love some clarification. Thanks! Users/MettaDogTraining

20080530 15:35:16 nbsp Oops, nevermind. :) Users/MettaDogTraining

20080601 18:29:15 nbsp thanks for prettyfying the disaster planning for pets page.  i did after just waking up (while i was still lying in bed) and meant to make it pretty later.....but you beat me to it, wikimaster! :D Users/JennSuzuki

20080602 14:40:50 nbsp You added links to the Law Cappella page while I was previewing my version :)  Users/ElleWeber

20080604 16:13:13 nbsp How did you catch on to my scheme? Users/AndrewPeake

20080609 08:42:26 nbsp How can I see the prerelease of street view for campus? Is it only for publicallyaccessiblebycar streets on campus? Users/JeremyOgul

20080609 09:02:08 nbsp haha, i loved http://daviswiki.org/Taylor_Mahrer?actiondiff&at_date1213024580.1860099 this edit.  Users/ElleWeber

20080611 06:28:22 nbsp Im sorry. I never saw the original Hamilton letter; I should have not made that change.  Users/RichardTrendall

20080611 08:56:23 nbsp I never meet people with money when Im dumpster diving. seems like unnecessary advice to me...  Users/PxlAted

20080611 20:35:31 nbsp Hey thanks for tossing the bike tunnels up on featured page!  I took a bunch of pics for that page last year and had lots of fun doing so. Users/jefftolentino

20080613 07:20:12 nbsp I killed that image for you. Users/WilliamLewis

20080616 17:58:22 nbsp JabberWokky:  Thanks for all of your work on the Wiki...  Okay, sorry for deleting the page about me.  Ill leave that one for public editing, and Ill add any corrections to the comments on that page (i.e. the Law Students Association wasnt part of the Graduate Students Association when I started at King Hall, let alone became president).   Users/ScottLay

20080618 13:41:20 nbsp Yea, I realize that. I actually have my younger sister (who lives in Woodland) using the Photo Request page to know what pictures to take. She has collected a number of whats there, but Ive yet to have the time to go over with her how to use the wiki to upload them. Users/CarlosBarahona

20080620 08:19:56 nbsp Theres nothing amazing.  Its actually the name of a sandwich at one of my favorite pubs. Users/TheAmazingLarry

20080623 13:30:25 nbsp Thanks for the heads up! Users/JoePomidor

20080625 10:23:46 nbsp I dont know that green is the best color to describe Davis in Summer. I think brown might be better. ;)  Users/ElleWeber

20080625 12:21:53 nbsp You have a point there. The reason I changed it is because the county doesnt call them absentee ballots any more, they call them votebymail ballots. Such ballots can be submitted at polling places, though. Maybe it would be more accurate to say suchandsuch a number returned votebymail ballots. Users/JeremyOgul

20080625 14:43:23 nbsp The user HVS no longer exists, you motivated me to get rid of that poor name choice, thanks...  (On another note, when I disabled that account and went to make a new one, any clue how to make it so I can use my old email address as well, thanks). Users/Kastrophee

20080628 08:24:07 nbsp FYI: Brent doesnt drink. Users/WilliamLewis

20080701 14:02:43 nbsp Oh, shoot.  I didnt even know there were DWiki pages for Bahai and Scientology!  I guess I made that assumption because Ive been editing of pages directed from the Lame Wiki Pages listing (in attempt to remedy some of these pages of their ills), and the Christianity one is at the very top under unsalvageable. So I guess I just assumed that those types of pages are frowned upon. This is what happens when I just jump into editing stuff that I dont really know anything about...  Plus, I havent been editing here for very long, since the wiki didnt become popular until right after I left for Santa Cruz.  Im still new to the site navigation and learning exactly what pages exist and what is still missing. As for the Pregnancy page, I got mostly the same impression of its centricity towards younger people trying to avoid pregnancy rather than obtain it.  I realize I added information that adds to this centricity, and thats my fault. Users/MaryLieth

20080703 23:23:41 nbsp Make your 10,000th edit a grand one!  Congrats and thanks for all your hard work! Users/MaryLieth

20080704 00:10:15 nbsp Congratulations on that 10,000th edit. May your next 10,000 prove to be as impressive and positive as the last 10,000. Users/JasonAller

20080704 12:26:46 nbsp Im confused.  Why are people congratulating you on 10000 edits when your user info says: This user has made 12536 edits to 5291 pages on 97 wikis.  Did you make 2536 edits in the last day or so? Users/SunjeetBaadkar

20080708 00:52:10 nbsp Thats the thing! There is no name for these apartments! Its effin mysterioussssss.... we are located at 307 University Ave. 12 Apartments situated above what used to be the campus cafe roma. (I believe it is now called 3rd and U cafe). We like to just call ourselves the Roma apts in honor of the late great. Make us a page? Ill upload some images Users/JoeSaavedra

20080722 19:12:15 nbsp Quantumtouch is just another example of fraudulent medicine attempting to claim legitimacy by pretending to be a part of a branch of science that is understood by very few. Such treatments bilk people out of money and can prevent people in need of legitimate medical care from seeking it. Anyone who pushes such things is deserving of a whole lot more than mockery. I really dont care if theyre newbies or not. Users/WilliamLewis

20080723 19:04:51 nbsp I like the way you handled the Quantum Healing page issue.  I personally know the person who created the page, so part of me wants to jump to his defense despite the fact that Im pretty neutral on my view of it.  I am a true skeptic and try to never make claims without proof one way or another of something.  My friend believes in its practice and I stand by his right to believe. Users/SunjeetBaadkar

20080724 06:28:07 nbsp Woot Woot, Thanks! Users/SMCareBare

20080724 12:33:32 nbsp So on the Mystery Picture page, when you type a guess in on Mystery Picture/Guesses, it displays it on the page Mystery Picture for some odd reason. I thought I fixed it last night, but it didnt seem to work. Not sure whats going wrong, but I have a feeling its either in the coding, or has something to do with possibly Firefox 3, as that is the only change on my end since I last guessed. Users/BrandonBarrette

20080724 12:43:26 nbsp Thanks for the warm comments! I restored the comment like a good wikiin and will try not to take the sour welcome so much to heart. I had hoped to be ignored by those uninterested... Anyway, Ill dig in and see if I can eventually do this wiki some good. Users/Sankofa416

20080724 14:11:48 nbsp Guesses are appearing on the wrong page again.  Since someone mentioned it, Im using Firefox 3 on all of my machines. Users/IDoNotExist

20080724 14:13:40 nbsp The wiki appears to need a substantial burp, if not a barbaric yalp.  Page loads and comment posts are exceeding 60 seconds  the one I just made took 34 minutes. Users/IDoNotExist

20080724 14:20:59 nbsp The wiki server is crashing when I try to post.  Is there somewhere where I can post the error that it generated?

 Users/IDoNotExist

20080724 14:26:33 nbsp For me too. Users/IDoNotExist

20080724 14:30:41 nbsp Looks like bad things are happening once again on edits and comments.  Me thinks it is the editing and commenting code. Users/IDoNotExist

20080725 12:16:38 nbsp How do I edit the front page to let people know about the wiki BBQ on August 3rd?  I wanna get at least a weeks face value for the event and not just on the Todays Events the day of the event. Users/SunjeetBaadkar

20080725 12:43:20 nbsp Hey there, thank you for keeping on top of the wiki and the users who dont always use it as it was intended. I really appreciate your hard work! Users/DaveCar

20080731 17:47:57 nbsp Thats awesome. Its interesting watching this whole thing unfold in California while Im back in the DC area right now. Theres really a cultural divide between the East and West coast (not necessarily liberal vs conservative, just different social mores I suppose) that becomes noticeable when things like this occur and these topics enter public discourse. Then again, the people here all wear seersucker; so I dont really respect their opinions anyways. Users/SMCareBare

20080802 08:27:46 nbsp Thats awesome! Users/SMCareBare

20080806 10:23:40 nbsp The fast that Im posting this comment here instead of on the Davis Wiki talk page is an example of why the following is true.  The wiki has grown sufficiently large that information on it is becoming difficult to find, even using the search function.  (For example, I just searched for 5 minutes for the wiki talk page, and couldnt find it!)  The search feature needs to be able to handle much more sophisticated searching  boolean searching, and metadata searching.  ie. I should be able to search for a page that was edited in a certain time range by a certain user or set of users, or the set of pages linking to a specific wiki page.  I think that this would make wiki search much more powerful. Users/IDoNotExist

20080812 14:21:46 nbsp thanks for the correction, darn spell check, thats what i originally had. I have been reading the talk page closely, and thats why i moved the comments relating to McDonalds instead of deleting them entirely Users/MattHh

20080813 09:18:49 nbsp He uses it fairly often. A cursory Newsbank search finds 12 references to Olde East Davis in the past three years and 11 to Old East Davis.  Users/JeremyOgul

20080814 16:29:32 nbsp Hey, thanks for the  suggestion on my page. Im still relatively new and I thought if I made a mistake somewhere someone would catch me. I also fixed the photo on the SFBO page and made sure the image was released under creative commons. Even if I didnt change it, would there be any way for you to tell if I was cheating or not? Also, I think my argument about the people page not being alphabetical holds in a theoretical sense. If someone made a profile with only a first name, where would they put it? Same goes for someone who made a random name like butterfly. Yet, since most people have a first/last name combo, I guess the ordering system works in all practically, but its still a bit yucky. Users/brandonhkey

20080815 00:33:55 nbsp Dont worry about the Yolo United page, Ill be keeping my eye on that one to keep it uptodate over the next few days (and to prevent evil saboteurs from defacing it). I guess I cant complain about the date thing if YYYYMMDD is supposed to be the standard but I gotta be honest, I havent seen that catch on everywhere yet, but Ill keep my eyes pealed now. Good to know youre out there making sure the wiki doesnt fall to pieces. Oh, and I agree with IDoNotExists criticism of the Daviswiki search. I think the search needs to be more powerful. Maybe we can get it Googlepowered? Users/brandonhkey

20080817 15:09:55 nbsp Are you getting very poor performance on comments?  It seems to be taking many seconds or even minutes to post comments now. Users/IDoNotExist

20080817 16:10:59 nbsp It did eventually seem to speed up again, when teh comments finally made it to the wiki.  But one comment took at least 6 minutes, and the one on your page also took several minutes. Users/IDoNotExist

20080818 09:02:16 nbsp ahhh...that explains it :) Users/IDoNotExist

20080819 02:00:41 nbsp I have heard of spammers using tactics like this to get peoples email addresses. I may have been a bit overzealous, but the allcaps, poorlywritten, askingforemails set off my suspicions. Feel free to return the comments, I just felt that they didnt add to the page or the reviews in question. Users/JoePomidor

20080820 10:36:33 nbsp Heh, no I actually think its for the better.  The amount people were buying in order to make the list was pretty obscene, like $20 worth per cup, which is just over 3 pounds each.  According to one of the sales people, one of the guys who made the list promptly puked up the whole thing in the garbage can directly outside the store.  I bet the contest became something of a liability for them, especially if people didnt quite make it outside before their bodies decided to reject that unfathomable amount of sugar and dairy product. Users/MaryLieth

20080820 21:25:53 nbsp Hello Mister JabberWokky Sir... is there anyway you could look over the APEX Cycles page and figure out what I did wrong.  I noticed that almost all of my things that are meant to be bold are not bold, and vice versa.  You can get an idea once you look at the page.  I looked at the script, but dont see anything wrong.  Is it just my computer?, or am I seeing things?  Thanks  Aaron Users/Aaron.Curtin

20080821 13:18:10 nbsp Good point. I use the Recent Changes so often, I sometimes forget that its not actually necessary to look at it when using the site. Users/JoePomidor

20080822 09:51:57 nbsp That is ridiculously awesome. Users/CurlyGirl26

20080822 13:42:55 nbsp We want Information Users/IDoNotExist

20080823 15:46:16 nbsp Re: City of Davis. The first sentence of the page indicates that the page is about the municipal government, not the community. In my opinion, Davis is not the same as the City of Davis. The latter is the formal government entity, and the former is what most people think of when they say Davis. Given that, theres nothing inaccurate about saying it is run by the City Manager and city staff, and governed by the City Council. I think adding bureaucratic infrastructure and city services is superfluous because that was already established in the first sentence. Users/JeremyOgul

20080824 20:33:35 nbsp I was just agreeing with what another had said about the midget term...but it looks like I commented after everything had been resolved. Sorry about that! :) Users/DukeMcAdow

20080825 12:21:19 nbsp Gk could be geek, but it could also be a derogatory name of Vietnamese, garnering popularity around the Vietnam police action Users/StevenDaubert

20080825 14:32:46 nbsp Funny, theres an FG episode about toad licking http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0576945/ Users/ElleWeber

20080828 12:00:34 nbsp ha, thanks.  first wiki entry, but i looked at the code on a few other pages to get the ideaoh yeah, and im a total nerd, so that helped!  :)  glad i finally singed up.  the davis wiki is awesome. Users/chuckc

20080828 23:07:22 nbsp Thank you for the Übersecret treasure map to pirate gold in Davis.  Now I have filled my Übersecret treasure chest with Übersecret treasure, as identified on the Übersecret treasure map to pirate gold in Davis. Users/IDoNotExist

20080829 10:25:05 nbsp I saw the image you uploaded like 2 minutes after you uploaded. Im pathetic. :P Users/WilliamLewis

20080905 18:48:25 nbsp Hey Jabberwocky!  Thanx for the Cosplay edit!  I agree with you, the term has become diluted, making it difficult to define!  thanx for your help! ^_^ Users/Chibi

20080907 23:17:52 nbsp Hello, Evan! It is very nice meeting you too. Yes, I am the owner of Crepe House Uni. Thank you very much and I hope to see you on our grand opening. Users/Sagat

20080908 08:47:20 nbsp No, that wasnt me. Do you recall what he was saying about his uniform on campus? Users/TheDavisMarine

20080908 10:45:26 nbsp Hey Evan,

Im working on a couple of pages (North Area Pond, Northstar Park) and see that there are photos on each page which should be switched to the other page. How do I do this? I could download and then reload the images, but then I think theyd be stamped with my information suggesting they were my images, I think.... As a temporary fix, Ive labelled them, but it would be better to move them.

Cheers Users/BarryRice

20080909 21:43:08 nbsp Hi Jabberwokkythanks for commenting on my West Sac Wiki meanderings, edits and additions.  I have a lot of photos posted on the West Sacramento Photo of the Day website (http://westsacramento.blogspot.com/) if they can be of use on the West Sac Wiki...I would just appreciate a little credit next to the photo is possible.  Users/bcsmith46

20080910 12:23:17 nbsp Thanks for the edits! Users/SMCareBare

20080911 16:55:33 nbsp Thanks for saying so.  He is allowed to think of it as annoying or cliche, but I am episcopalian and it doesnt offend me.  But then I love Robin Williams...  Perhaps it would seem offensive to some of our more conservative members...  Who knows. Users/CarrieBishop

20080914 00:39:01 nbsp Hello, thanks for your comment and for welcoming me! I am not sure how fond of the particular animals I am now linked to I am but it was cool to check out the local critters. You seem like an interesting fellow/Gnome person. You certainly have alot on your wiki page! Very neat.

See you around,
Gina Users/ginarivers

20080917 13:55:25 nbsp Thanks for the welcome! Users/ChelseaAyers

20080922 08:28:13 nbsp hmmm searching for local website from joes page gives me errors, and the url that results is http://daviswiki.org/Users/JoePomidor?actionsearch&inline_stringlocal+website&x0&y0

is my spidey sense tingling for no reason? Users/StevenDaubert

20080923 15:26:45 nbsp Are you back in Davis for good?  Or just on vacation? Users/IDoNotExist

20080926 19:52:11 nbsp How will I find you tomorrow? Users/IDoNotExist

20080928 22:28:28 nbsp Im sorry to have missed you yesterday.  I was so looking forward to meeting you and Mrs. Wokky :)  Unfortunately, my work schedule conflicted with the meet up.

Hope you have safe travels and you are able to come back to Davis soon. Users/CurlyGirl26

20081002 12:00:26 nbsp Its better, I dont care for their humor regarding Davis, so Im probably not the best judge.  It just didnt seem germane to the DLM page. Users/Davidlm

20081003 12:29:39 nbsp Oh! Thanks, Ill stick them back in.  Users/ElleWeber

20081003 22:14:18 nbsp Re:fair trade coffee, I dont have a clue.  Just ran across the page and was trying to figure it out. Users/JimStewart

20081006 12:21:51 nbsp Hey. Thanks for the compliments on the photo. It was taken at Bryce Canyon National Park, Aug. 2008. Users/StephanieCastle

20081013 23:20:13 nbsp short blurb replies edited on my page :) Users/EdWins

20081014 10:22:08 nbsp What do you think, re: Roxie? Users/IDoNotExist

20081014 11:00:09 nbsp Please stop putting your comment up on Roxies page. You are making false assumptions, and false accusations. If, indeed, you are monitoring IP addresses and invalidate a comment simply because it comes from the same IP address as a comment sent a few moments earlier, how then do you account for more than one person using the same computer? Or in the case of Roxie, the same hairstylist? And to base your accusation on the choice of wording seems extremely superficial. After all, how many different ways can you say I got a great haircut? TonyB and EGrace are a husband and wife; they use the same computer, and the same hairstylist. I dont know who the other two are, but you certainly are invalidating their comments. While you may be providing a service to some, you are not providing a service to Roxie. Please stop.
Thanks, Pat Quinn
 Users/patquinn

20081014 13:24:54 nbsp I was trying to upload larger image files so I could thumbnail to them.  Annoying when you keep messing with the image files Im working on. Users/StevenWorker

20081014 15:25:02 nbsp Evan, Thanks for taking the time to explain how some of this works. While in concept a wiki is a beautiful thing, in reality it can get a little muddled. While it purports to be an open environment, it really isnt because it is, in a sense, being policed. Even though it is being policed for the common good it can be misleading because, based on assumptions, along the way someone is judging someone else.
At any rate, thanks for clearing this up. I will tread more carefully in the future.
Pat Users/patquinn

20081015 11:23:42 nbsp Accounting spam is back... Users/IDoNotExist

20081015 21:32:12 nbsp That was fun.  Ive always enjoyed that kind of thing on the forums Im involved in, though I tend to /facepalm when I realize how much we tend to deviate and/or assume from the original post that starts it all.    Users/EdWins

20081015 21:44:34 nbsp There are signs about bubonic plague in many campgrounds in California. But yeah, hantavirus is out here too I guess, although I had the impression it was more in the desert. Users/NickSchmalenberger

20081020 21:13:30 nbsp Thanks... I was compiling a lot of this information already on a spreadsheet to organize my job search. Its a good reference to have on the wiki. Users/MaryLieth

20081021 04:50:20 nbsp Hiya, Evan. Thanks for the welcome back on 2008/09/05 (I write dates the Japanese way). Sorry I didnt respond earlier; I was still trying to learn how to use the wiki. I think Ive got the hang of VERY basic posting/commenting functions now. See you around. Users/T.Zukumori

20081021 13:07:25 nbsp http://daviswiki.org/Featured_Page?actiondiff&at_date1224616641.3648 lol Users/ElleWeber

20081022 11:49:47 nbsp Thanks Jabberwokky, very interesting. Ill take time to peruse this page a little more later but I want to thank for your feedback on my page.  One of my strongest interests is can the web do local community? And do it well as pcs and other factors have destroyed a sense of locality in many areas although it seems to be returning now more and more...perhaps we just needed to have a sense of what it looks like to see nothing but corporate facades every which way you look and say, hey, dont want that!

Of course, its more complicated than that but over here in Sonoma/Marin/Napa counties I distribute cards and word of mouth for two aspiring local connectors.  First is http://www.waccobb.net and the second is called Aqus news, and is sign up only, not directly interactive, and linked with the Moose Lodge over here in Petaluma.  Its run by a guy named John Crowley who grew up in Scotland and was amazed at how dislocated Americans were from each other when he moved over here.  He does a nice job addressing this reality but both Wacco and Aqus still are limited in terms of usefulness by the amount of traffic they generate.

And Craiglist is too big! And faceless! Feels like youre dealing with the DMV 20 years ago,sometimes just to get a simple question answered especially when youre flagged or something. Nowadays, in fact, the DMV, would be much preferred!  thanks again.  ds Users/DouglasHall

20081024 20:52:28 nbsp Not a fan, Jabberwokky...just sounded better than dog...looks like a fun site tho...are there any wikis you participate on in Pennsylvania?  Seems like Davis is a bit unique in this regard...Ive searched further and there seems to be zero in the immediate North Bay area...tempted to start one but I need to see just how it functions as a community first.  Check the www.waccobb.net site you might find it interesting and inspiring. Have a nice weekend and enjoy the fall colors...I grew up on Long Island.  Doug Users/DouglasHall

20081028 12:00:06 nbsp Where do I go to pick up my 10 points? Users/TheAmazingLarry
    Can I pool my 10 with Larrys 10? Edwins ES

20081028 12:11:47 nbsp Thanks for the link to the five wikipedians that have their own personal restaurant guides. Interesting, I found the pages by randomly browsing a few days ago, and was considering making my own as well. It will probably be quite a challenge before mine will come close to the depth and breadth of their pages, but Ill give it a shot. Users/T.Zukumori
  Sorry, sorry. I misread Wikians as Wikipedians. I mean the former. Users/T.Zukumori

20081113 22:30:11 nbsp Thank you, Evan.  Very much appreciated. Users/CovertProfessor

20081114 11:27:01 nbsp Hey, its me lex again about the Asian Auto Care page thing, we do have new owners, so why cant the old comments just be archived with the old business? can you help me with that? Users/AlexisLemus

20081114 11:44:24 nbsp Oh, yeah, if you could do me the favor of archiving some of those comments? It would be truly appreciated. Users/AlexisLemus

20081120 07:52:09 nbsp I had the same thought about the red on black being too dark (Woodland Wiki).  I could not figure out how to make the text white.  Ill probably change the colors today. Users/DavidGrundler
  Changed and it looks much better. Thanks.  Any idea why the user stats are not computing correctly on the Woodland Wiki?   Users/DavidGrundler

20081120 12:14:15 nbsp Its not all that different really. At the base of it, if a business owner wants to support something, they have every right to. In the same vein, so do their customers. Thats relatively simple. If that puts them at odds, it has nothing to do with them not being able to express their feelings, its simply a consequence of their differences.  I had a longer post, but I deleted most of it and went on a different track;  Some people may prefer to buy organic items. Or to buy fair trade items. Or to buy local to support local businesses (or because theyre against chain stores). Similarly, if given the choice, some may prefer to reward businesses with whose management they agree with on other sociopolitical issues.   Its really not all that much different of a reason to support or avoid a place, its very relative to what that particular consumer subset values.   Users/EdWins

20081120 15:03:47 nbsp Ah! Users/EdWins

20081120 20:15:15 nbsp Cant we all just agree that bagels are awesome, no matter where they come from? Users/StaceyEllis

20081121 12:40:08 nbsp I think it is a shame that you removed your comment so quickly from the campaign contribution page.  I feel that it was one of the most compelling comments on there, and I feel much the same way as you, only you articulated your points much better than I.  Please reconsider putting it back, even though (as you pointed out) some will completely miss the point.  I actually didnt think of the effect of pushing people to silence. Users/DavidGrundler

  I agree. I enjoyed the comment and thought it made a good point (although I dont necessarily agree. Im all for good points I dont agree with. My comment right after it was not in response to yours, so your comment that I missed your point was slightly off the mark. I did make a direct reply but then removed it when your comment was removed). BTW: Its funny. I moved here this year from Pa., because my wife came to Davis for her first postdoc. Looks like our paths crisscrossed. Enjoy Pa. While I agree there are some similarities (I went to school at Lock Haven, which is about 30 minutes from State College), the differences seem to me more luminous now that Im here in Calif., and thus more memorable. Users/condemned2bfree

20081125 20:29:03 nbsp Hi Evan! I go by De F. Rew. Users/defrew

20081207 17:34:10 nbsp Im deeply puzzled about UserInfo.  Is there an easier way to get to it than via a http://hsl.wikispot.org/Users/Mwanner?actionuserinfo full external link?  If not, why not?  TIA, Users/Mwanner
  Ah, simple enough!  Thanks again!  Mwanner

20081209 13:00:47 nbsp I only changed the month, not the year; I found both dates as well, 1893 http://content.cdlib.org/xtf/view?docIdhb4t1nb2bd&doc.viewframes&chunk.iddiv00059&toc.depth1&toc.id here and 1892 http://www.avocadosource.com/CAS_Yearbooks/CAS_73_1989/CAS_1989_PG_6.pdf here. Listing both would be good  how would you word it?  Users/ElleWeber

20081209 13:05:02 nbsp A footnote! How handy! Thanks.  Users/ElleWeber

20081209 19:20:56 nbsp I sent you an email just now Users/StevenDaubert

20081210 06:31:06 nbsp Evan,
Regarding my footnotetothefootnote on the Ryerson page and your comment about sarcasm, I could suggest that editors actually do a bit of digging before citing something. I added the expanded dates earlyish in the day and found Elle Webers odd footnote, not exactly disputing the facts, but casting doubt on them, later the same day. It took me no more than two minutes to locate four reliable sources for Ryersonss DOB, which I then weighed, as one must, even with official documents, against the other sources, which I then judged to be unreliable. What you called sarcasm was a minor goad to anyone reading it, including me, to actually look, weigh, and judge before stating (or disputing) a fact. And by the way, I never contradicted the fact that other sources give a different DOB, which is certainly an accurate statement, and thats why I didnt strike the original footnote.
And I really do like that footnote macro, though, now that Ive seen it in action!
David Users/DavidRobinson

20081212 22:24:01 nbsp Hey Jabberwokky, can you fix the chart that lists my shop hours so that it is even.  Im trying to list my Summer and winter hours in the chart.  Thanks  Aaron Users/Aaron.Curtin

20081213 19:23:15 nbsp Hi Evan. Thank goodness you reminded me!! Now the world is safe with correct tense and room for future WEF benefits! :{{{^}}}) Users/DougWalter

20081216 15:46:02 nbsp Thanks for your advice Evan! Users/DrWang

20081217 22:38:59 nbsp re: Ramen  I agree with your edit that the cheap packaged stuff is outright bad for you, but the good fresh stuff isnt all that great for you either, regardless of veggies.  Tend to be super high in salts and most ramens tend to come with meat (pork is pretty common, and the better ramen places serve it with nice meat, not all that lean)  or more commonly, in meat based broths, which really bump up the fats. Or etc, other adds.  I mean sure, you could get nutrients and vitamins and whatnot out of the various variations/styles, but I wouldnt really call any ofem nutrional.  My gf and I actually had excellent ramen for lunch today :D  Users/EdWins

20081217 23:12:11 nbsp Hey, thanks for the facebook fix on my bio page. Davis misses you!!! Users/thelonepiper555

20081218 08:37:46 nbsp Have you not considered adding chopped up Twinkies to your ramen?  Its dessert ramen; estranged cousin to dessert pizza. Users/TheAmazingLarry

20081218 17:13:35 nbsp Sure, homemade anything can be that way. Didnt even consider homemade variations  I was talking specifically about the stuff from an actual Japanese ramen house.   Users/EdWins

20081221 09:39:18 nbsp did you notice my response? Its not about deleting your comments, dont delude yourself into thinking that Users/StevenDaubert

20081221 09:43:31 nbsp Im out of town and about to eat delicous breakfast.
on my motives of deleting your stuff, I moved it to the bottom and was going to challenge your conjecture as I noticed nothing other than oppinion as a response to my facts... Users/StevenDaubert

20081221 16:28:58 nbsp Daubert moved your response to the comments. Not me. I actually did delete it from the entry earlier, he added it back.  It seemed silly to me that he thinks your response wasnt worthy of being in the entry, but his edits were.  So I decided to move his down as well, especially as it may just be random information that might not be correct (even if he considers it to be so), which is why I asked for some sort of verification from him. In simpler terms, decided to move the rest of the potential opinion down there until it proved itself (and again, couldnt delete as he added it back).  Users/EdWins
His response is worthy of being in the entry, I just wanted him to flesh out his statement more. Should I have just used the top of the entry as a discussion ground?  Users/StevenDaubert after reading the other half, it should be noted that I culled the random information from various reputable sources online (wikipedia and what they source) before making the addition in the 1st place. I didnt want to run into this half cocked. Besides, the whole argument is philosophical to begin with.

20081221 19:55:19 nbsp h8 you, I remembered that campus actually was a link, but by then I was on to something else irl, came back and you already got it Users/StevenDaubert

20081225 13:14:23 nbsp Re: your comment in my profile 6 months ago: Apparently a friend and housemate (Dmitry) was logged in on my account. However, he did work for GradTutors at some point time, so Im sure his comment was valid. I will ask him about it. Users/ErikFriedlander

20081226 22:48:51 nbsp Thanks for the Sac wiki link on Sweet Briar. Wasnt sure how to do it correctly and was too lazy after days of gluttony to check for the howto.  Users/robinlaughlin

20081227 23:24:52 nbsp thanks for clarifying where that edited was that Nick was referring to. Now that I see it, I remember doing thatit was a REALLLLY long time ago. Anyway, I think I made that change because that bit of info was irrelevant to the entry. Users/EliseKane

20081228 14:38:16 nbsp Mr. Edwards, thank you for your comments and opinions.

This is for your reference, by the way:

TO: Mr. Nick Schmalenberger
CC: JabberWocky

Mr. Schmalenberger, I would appreciate it if you didnt get belligerent in your messages to me. It is offensive and unproductive toward our main cause, which is improving the wiki. I love Davis, as do you, so it would be in our best interests to treat each other with respect. Note that it is in conflict with Wiki Ethics  to use confrontational speech.

You mention that I removed the portion of the article just because you dont like it. This is a false assertion, per my explanation for you as to why I edited that entry (see comment above). If that is your interpretation of my reasoning, I apologize that you misunderstand me so vastly.

You state that the idea of pages having a purpose of informing the wiki public is BS. It is my opinion that you have missed the overarching objective of the wiki. I am also afraid that you have neglected to read the Wiki Introduction, which states that the wiki is a place for sharing, listening, learning, growing and exploring, and that it is a place to record Davis culture, places, and spots. I fully agree with your AND the wiki Intros sentiment that what the wiki contains and means is up to you. As a general rule you should contribute content you think will be helpful or insightful to others, but even this rule can be broken at times.

In removing Marie Huynhs anecdote, my objective was only toward improving the entry as a whole, and not toward removing a humanizing aspect of the entry. I still maintain that Huynhs anecdote is less of a humanizing aspect of the entry and more of an irrelevancy for the fact that it is NOT informative, as would be Jabberwockys example of there are particularly nice smelling flowers on the slope outside the store. (see Jabberwocky comment for reference.) Do what you will with the Frys page, however, because you clearly have a very deep attachment to Huynhs comment whereby you felt it necessary to contact me.

As for your citation of my Orgasmatron page, I am flattered that you expended such effort to find a page I created so as to back up your argument, because this gives me the opportunity to share with a fellow Davislover a great piece of town trivia: It just so happens that the Orgasmatrons sign has been up since the 1970s and was the location of all California Aggie photographic production predigital technology (note that this is a place or spot in Davis, as the Wiki Intro states). There are, of course, secrets about the room that I am not at liberty to divulge because they remain classified except for those in the know at The California Aggie. In essence, this page exists because as you say, I can relate to the text from my own experiences. Users/EliseKane

20081228 20:35:38 nbsp Oh, dont worry. I wasnt upset at all. It was barely a blip on the radar for me; I dont know about Schmalenberger, however. The fact that he made an issue of it in the first place and wrote so aggressively to me is a telltale sign that his feathers were rumpled. Poor guy.  Users/EliseKane

20081230 23:32:52 nbsp Thanks for the tip.  I think I missed a step b/c I tried it and it didnt work. Users/CurlyGirl26

20090122 08:43:07 nbsp Thank you!!!! Users/AdobeManagement

20090131 21:42:54 nbsp I almost think the media mentions should be split into another page... Users/StevenDaubert

20090205 12:56:12 nbsp Theres a unique thud and low tone when a human body hits a 5th floor hurricane resistant window trying to go through and is bounced back that I dont think Ill ever forget

ah yes, another jabberjem Users/StevenDaubert

20090205 15:03:48 nbsp Hi! Thanks for your question you posted on the chinese dance and arts wiki page in november of last year :) I just got around to answering it  Users/jfong252

20090213 12:04:22 nbsp Hey, Ive never seen you at DRAGON, but if youre into gaming its THE place to go.  Games are always shifting and looking for new players. There is even a LARP group, but Im not affiliated with that and wouldnt know anything about it further than it exists.   Users/MasonMurray

20090310 14:27:52 nbsp I figured there must be more than one dog trainer in a city as dogfriendly as Davis, but as a non dog owner, I dont have personal knowledge. I was hoping that the dogowning wikizens would step up... Theres a section on Dogs for Training & Behavior, which Id assume would be essentially the same thing as Dog Trainers but I didnt know details.  Users/ElleWeber

20090310 14:28:47 nbsp Sigh. I didnt look closely enough. A couple of the ones listed on dogs actually have the name training in them. Ill move them over.  Users/ElleWeber

20090312 11:10:36 nbsp Hey! Can you help me resize the images im uploading on the Adobe Page?

Thanks!!! Users/AdobeManagement

20090312 11:42:37 nbsp THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!!!!!!  Users/AdobeManagement

20090312 12:44:38 nbsp Actually that was Williams comment. But um. yes. Throw paperclips everywhere! Users/NickSchmalenberger

20090313 11:10:23 nbsp Hi, sorry if there was a misunderstanding.  I realized that I wanted to clear some facts up before i posted my comment, so i deleted it.  I also deleted a double posted comment.  I figured that was a mistake, but if it wasnt, sorry! Users/E.Liu

20090324 14:43:21 nbsp Thanks, JW!  I hadnt seen the Huel Houser thing.  God, this is going to be hilarious.  Im sure he just gets so excited about this.  Were talking about a guy that acts so excited over different sizes of gravel.

Thanks for the link to the Adam Carolla Podcast.  I subscribed on iTunes his first day. The cancellation of his show hit me hard.  At least hes podcasting. Id be going through Adam withdrawals.  Painful.

I think the podcasts are really good.  Its weird hearing him drop the eff bomb now.  Ive listened to him on terrestrial radio for more than 10 years, no swearing. Users/CurlyGirl26

20090327 9:44:10:23 nbsp Cough Cough Mythbusters Ahem Cough

20090330 06:47:43 nbsp I dont mean to harp on you; just interested to see the pictures.  Did you happen to also see the Dirty Jobs show done in a Sacarea diaper service? Users/TheAmazingLarry

20090330 22:06:48 nbsp Hear, hear!  on the Mustard Seed page.  I wont write this on their page, because its only hearsay, but I have talked with a number of people who have had bad experiences with the owners of the MS  sufficiently bad that I wont go there myself.  So, I am convinced of the truth of the allegations made on the page, and as you point out, there are other reasons to believe those reports. Users/CovertProfessor

20090331 03:58:45 nbsp Hi Im from the Irvine Wiki.  Judging from the number of your edits and your SN I assumed you were a bot.  Anyways I only discovered the Irvine Wiki two days ago and I have no idea who the admin(s) are or if they are even active.  I sent an email to wikispot but I question if they would release admin control to me even if the wiki was essentially abandoned.  Thanks for the contributions.  Itll help get this thing off the ground in a couple of weeks. Users/Mateo

20090331 08:56:43 nbsp Hey JW: I just wanted to thank you for staying on top of the shenanigans on the DavisWiki, especially in the cases of the Mustard Seed and Little Prague, but also in general on a daily basis. I hope when you get back from State College (say hello to Lock Haven, where I went to undergrad), I can buy your grizzly nerd ass a beer. Users/condemned2bfree

20090331 12:26:41 nbsp I was just trynna figure out how to upload pics on here and put some of my favorites on my page. But, I must have been using the coding I found on the help page incorrectly, so I just kept getting weird links. It was my fault they uploaded to the front page I guess, cuz I had too many tabs open. So I just deleted them. But for some reason, I had a feeling one of you would see that and try to help me, for which I am very grateful. Im such a n00b.  Users/BrookeB

20090331 12:29:58 nbsp I was just trynna figure out how to upload pics on here and put some of my favorites on my page. But, I must have been using the coding I found on the help page incorrectly, so I just kept getting weird links. It was my fault they uploaded to the front page I guess, cuz I had too many tabs open. So I just deleted them. But for some reason, I had a feeling one of you would see that and try to help me, for which I am very grateful. Im such a n00b.  Users/BrookeB

20090401 06:58:50 nbsp It has been suggesting that during the time that all these folks signed up. Users/JasonAller

20090404 21:21:53 nbsp indeed, and it is Users/StevenDaubert

20090406 14:08:38 nbsp chartreuse?  salmon?  yellowgreen?  the possibilities are endless. Users/TheAmazingLarry

20090413 21:11:22 nbsp Much better solution. Thanks again JW! Users/condemned2bfree

20090414 12:52:24 nbsp Are you trying to one up me on ridthewikioffalseolallaberrieslinksday? Users/TheAmazingLarry

20090415 11:43:30 nbsp Thanks for letting me know, but Im pretty passive for the most part about these things.  I recognized the links on the recent changes as a page I edited recently, but I expect that people will edit the pages after me.  Other editors seem to have a penchant for educating new users (or duking it out editwarofattritionstyle), so Ill leave that up to those folks.  I havent received any emails from this person, but Ill make note of it. Users/MaryLieth

20090418 15:22:59 nbsp Im going to write my congressman to see if we can ban such offensive hues. Users/BrentLaabs

20090422 11:22:02 nbsp Interesting point! In typical Edwins fashion, I left a fragmented, rambling response.  Users/EdWins

20090423 09:12:49 nbsp Aw, hope you feel better soon! Users/EdWins

20090424 16:30:49 nbsp Yes I work on apple computers but only for hardware issues. Users/RealComputers

20090424 17:04:28 nbsp w00t. Thanks for the new badge..... I think. :) Users/WilliamLewis

20090424 17:06:25 nbsp you are welcome to suggest that I change the wes to theys but do not take change anything yourself. There is nothing inappropriate going on here, if I chose to say we instead of I then that is my preference, Leave it at that.  Users/RealComputers

20090424 17:18:35 nbsp I am simply asking that you not edit my businesses page. Is that too much to ask? I understand that people can edit it if they want at any time. I also understand that the only two people to edit it so far are you and williamlewis and that some alterations were made so that my pages wording could fit a preconceived idea of what a wiki page(which as you say can be made and edits by anyone) should be worded. Please do not edit my site unless there is a good reason.  Users/RealComputers

20090424 18:15:06 nbsp I understand that you anyone CAN change any wiki but that does not mean they HAVE to. Is this a wiki or is it just whats you guys approve? I dont get it, you say anyone can write anything (asuming its appropriate) but i cant have the word we on mine. You guys are super anal if this is how you treat people who are trying to use wiki.  Users/RealComputers

20090424 18:51:24 nbsp Well, I understand the idea of including multiple viewpoints, but I have been unable to find any documentary evidence that supports the idea that UCD is the next flagship campus. We are definitely considered UCs flagship campus for environmental studies (which is noted in all the press releases from UCD that go out on environmental issues), but if we were in the process of transforming into the next UCLA or Berkeley, that would be stated somewhere, either in a UCD press release or some UC Regents reports or something. UC doesnt do this kind of thing in secret.  Users/jsogul

20090424 18:59:06 nbsp True, its just one of the ones most likely to get a revert of an edit, since 99% of the time the edit will not be an acceptable one. Front page is the big leagues! Users/JoePomidor

20090425 15:56:10 nbsp At the very least, he shouldnt be allowed to use the wiki to promote his business if he treats everyone with such contempt. Users/WilliamLewis

20090425 16:38:07 nbsp Im not operating under similar situations as him. I do not think that pages exist for promoting businesses, but thats what hes trying to do. Thats what hes attempting to use the page as. Since he has treated everyone with such contempt, we shouldnt allow him to use the community in such a way. Yes, the wiki loses something by not documenting his business. However, I believe that what is lost is infinitesimal. Users/WilliamLewis

20090428 09:53:37 nbsp Im trying to refrain from acting likeUsers/RealComputers, but Im not seeing much else for me to do.  Should I just let the gnomes handle this? Users/MasonMurray

20090428 10:47:21 nbsp Do ou have an issue with me? What do I need to be more willing to communicate with? People have been attacking me simply because I wanted my wiki to be worded a certain way.  Users/RealComputers

    ...And as in uffish thought he stood,
      The Jabberwock, with eyes of flame,
      Came whiffling through the tulgey wood,
      And burbled as it came!

     (...from the greatest nonsense poem in the English Language; thanks, Mr. Dodgson. Users/SredniVashtar)

     Dont worry RealComputer, it only matters as much as you want it to, or, maybe it simply

     Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
     Did gyre and gimble in the wabe;
     All mimsy were the borogoves,
     And the mome raths outgrabe.

20090428 11:20:41 nbsp some people have been nice but trust me, some have definitely just been rude needlesly. Joepomidor is an example.  Users/RealComputers

20090429 15:25:15 nbsp Do you read XKCD?  http://xkcd.com/574/ Users/EdWins

20090429 16:08:39 nbsp true, ill take it down. Its hard to be facetious about the media coverage while staying respectful for the people who are actually getting it. Users/JoePomidor

20090429 19:46:34 nbsp My areas of research and doctoral works are with infectious diseases. I should be reading papers right now for an upcoming exam on HIV, Anthrax, lymphocytic choriomeningitis virus, and Cholera.  But http://daviswiki.org/Users/EdWins?actiondiff&version2176&version1175 what you noticed drives me nuts, has always driven me nuts (since at least high school), and likely will drive me nuts for the rest of my life.  Users/EdWins

20090505 01:56:50 nbsp I am sorry if i messed around with the wiki at first but this idea of a website that anyone can edit is just suprising to me. I have removed any comments I have made anywhere that could seem rude. I dont want to piss anyone off. Any help/advice you can provide would be appriciated Users/RealComputers

20090505 04:50:07 nbsp Hows the flu? Users/TheAmazingLarry

20090505 06:01:13 nbsp Sorry! Users/NickSchmalenberger

20090507 11:39:20 nbsp Ill give it a shot some time.  Generally though I dont like it because the grease upsets my stomach.  Antacids fix the problem, but why take something to fix a problem you could just avoid? Users/MasonMurray

20090507 12:03:08 nbsp Only some know the true identity of Jerome Johnson! Users/JohnDudek

20090508 14:00:41 nbsp dude thank you so much. I am not trying to tell people not to argue and be rude with me, but at least just to move it to another page. Thank you so much.  Users/RealComputers

20090508 14:06:28 nbsp is there a way I can make the free diagnostics thing stand out more without violating a rule?
 Users/RealComputers

20090508 14:42:39 nbsp hey man I have been getting a lot of flac, which i know a lot of it is my fault. I was wondering if you would be willing to help direct negativity to those talk pages you made, as I suspect that JoePomidor will not let this go anytime soon and will continue to pu personal attacks on the real computers page when he returns to wiki.   Users/RealComputers

20090508 15:44:01 nbsp Horribly written, but hopefully with the right intent showing.  Im sitting in lab crying about my experiments failing :P  Hope youre feeling better!  Users/EdWins

20090509 20:28:47 nbsp Thanks for your message! How do I clear the account like you said? I would like to use the new one since its more current. hope you feel better soon! Users/jsbmeb

20090511 08:27:41 nbsp Hi, JW!  That article (and several others) link to the Articles/Letters written by Former GVCC Members section on the Recovering From Spiritual Abuse page.  Most of them also occur on another page related to GVCC but are embedded in the sense that unless you read the entire page you wont find them.  Feel free to clarify or whatever. Users/RichLindvall

20090511 09:40:19 nbsp Hey can you tell me how to change the name of a page? Im trying to make a new page but the name of it is just making a new page and i cant figure out how to change it.  Users/RealComputers

20090511 09:42:30 nbsp nvm, figured it out.  Users/RealComputers

20090511 14:34:33 nbsp I saw your irc page.. can we move for that to be a general feature of wikispot?  Users/DavidPoole

20090511 15:32:19 nbsp thanks for your edits on the hops! Users/matiasek

20090511 16:56:51 nbsp No problem! Its just taking me a little bit to get adjusted to how this works.
Thanks though, separating the two wors great! Users/mydiaz

20090512 12:53:18 nbsp Wikiwokky? Users/TheAmazingLarry
              I think I like JabberWiki the gnome, and his cousin, Javawikki, the coding gnome? users/edwins ES
               I thought jabberwiki sounded appropriate too, until I http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?termjabberwiki looked it up.  Definitely not our JW.
                    How true! Sorry it took me a bit to reply to this.  I was playing http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/4927/gnome.jpg find the gnome. He probably is too. users/edwins ES
                     Thats even tougher than Wheres Waldo.  I hope you didnt cheat and use ctrlF ... :)

20090514 09:26:04 nbsp I understand that point, and did see it as a potential counter argument.  However, I do not honestly hold the opinion the page should be renamed Weed.  I was merely pointing out a flaw in the argument for naming it Marijuana rather than Cannabis.   Users/MasonMurray

20090514 09:49:46 nbsp Thank you for renaming the page. I was just about to ask how to do that. Users/MasonMurray

20090514 10:31:45 nbsp Is there a way for me to have Organic on Woodland redirect to Davis aside from having a page that says See also, Davis? Users/MasonMurray

20090514 11:18:16 nbsp My idea was to send the redirect from Organic to Davis, then add several links back to Woodland from the Davis page.  Theres been several comments regarding this on Woodland, and the general consensus seems to be that copypasteing is not the best option in that it... you know Im actually not sure.  But doesnt it seem a better option, considering Woodland wikis size that we cross link topics such as Organic rather than having one on each?  If the general consensus is not, I will gladly help transfer pages over.  I just feel this is more efficient.   Users/MasonMurray

20090515 20:17:25 nbsp I did not, yet. I will try to independently verify that. Users/JoePomidor

20090520 13:33:52 nbsp My bad! Should have given it a few minutes until you were done. :)  Users/ElleWeber

20090521 09:52:32 nbsp JW... I just finally continued the chat from last night. Can you see the comments?? Im still a rookie on this site obviously. Users/CaryArnold

20090521 12:27:58 nbsp thank you for your comment, I appreciate it. Users/chand3123k

20090521 16:03:22 nbsp What would you consider the Best way to prune comments? For example Crepe House Uni has excess comments, and I dont think I can integrate many of them, and would like to prune/archive some of them. Users/MasonMurray

20090524 10:02:18 nbsp Sorry about the teeth.  Once the thought crossed my mind, my hands typed it out before I could stop them. Users/TheAmazingLarry

20090528 06:41:19 nbsp Do you often check your timewarp email? I cced you on a communication with the DC Wiki admin.  I think he has some questions. Users/TheAmazingLarry
    Just got out of bed... I was picking somebody up from the airport in the wee hours of last night, and everybody and their dog seems to have emailed, called or somehow left a message this morning.  :)  I have it, but have not read past the summary (I literally had 26 calls on my phone when I woke up!).  Ill hit it in the next hour or so as I get caught up.  jw

20090529 09:10:34 nbsp Indeed, its. Users/CovertProfessor

20090601 14:37:27 nbsp thanks for making my davis knit night page a lot more purdy :D Users/ChristyMarsden

20090602 23:22:04 nbsp haha, that was awesome! its critical mass. Users/JoePomidor

20090606 12:46:41 nbsp Cute idea with the Fuzio editing, but that tidbit youre adding was originally added in 2004 (and not pulled from a communal experience set).  Do you find that still to be an accurate reflection of the community of Davis as seen in the comments/reviews?  Users/EdWins

20090606 21:03:01 nbsp thanks! i couldnt help getting more specific; thats the restaurant nerd in me. (hes just posted an #8485, but they clearly use a #37799). Users/KevinWan

20090617 10:27:41 nbsp Thanks for saying so!  A little common sense is all anyone really needs.  And something most people lack completely.  :T Users/CarrieBishop

20090617 13:45:02 nbsp Hey Evan, Im sorry for offending you. Honestly. I hadnt meant any of it at anyone personally, but was rather miffed in general at seeing this topic come up so often and especially with the recent creation of the Anonymous Cowards stuff. I also had responded under Brent and JAs posts as well.  Clearly I went a bit overboard.  Users/EdWins

20090702 10:51:08 nbsp hehe dont worrya picture shall be posted shortly. Users/EliseKane

20090703 22:00:16 nbsp I appreciate your comments and sincerity in wanting me to feel welcome, but from that first reaction I can say that I do not. However, I understand that people have used the Wiki in ways that are questionable and undesirable.  May I suggest asking me the validity and goals of said Wiki to understand if it is in fact a business that is simply being made aware to the community before assuming that I have similar motives as another individual.  While I seem to be having to defend my integrity without a proper welcome in the first place, let me clear it up by saying that I fully understand the concept of this community and the need for people to be actively involved (by editing entries, commenting, and so on) for DavisWiki to grow.

Sam

P.S. To clear up the IP address situation. My friend was with me in the same room as I was creating this Wiki. I used her input to help me create the page and she posted an honest review. The comments posted on that Wiki yesterday affected me as well as her. But, hopefully clearing this up can help to put it behind all of us. Users/PKS

20090708 10:39:34 nbsp Hi! Thanks for helping refine the ASUCD Environmental Policy and Planning Commission DavisWiki Page. I appreciate your help very much! Users/irregularadverb

20090708 13:05:09 nbsp hey jabber, thanks for helping me use this wiki. I want to contribute, Im just not very technologically advanced.  Users/BryceH

20090714 23:17:01 nbsp Oh my gosh, I remember you!  Users/CameronMenezes

20090716 13:07:57 nbsp In the future please delete my changes instead of writing rude comments in their place if you feel the need to be so disagreeable. I dont understand what is worng with stating that DAIGNOSTICS ARE FREE under the free computer services section. It is a free computer service. I dont understand why this logic escapes you. Furthermore, I am not some an anonomous person. My name is Brian Tangney and I am the owner of Real Computers. Do you want me to post a picture of myself and use wiki as a myspace as you do? My wiki page is stricktly for business. Please be more professional in the future.  Users/RealComputers

20090716 13:27:03 nbsp is a computer diagnostic not a service? Do you not have to pay for a computer diagnostic at other computer shops? Knowing whats wrong with a computer often enables people to fix the problem themselves. Actually quite often. Users/RealComputers

20090716 13:48:43 nbsp As stated, only diagnostics are free. A computer diagnostic is a service, one which you almost always have to pay for. I do not understand your problem with this. Can you exlpain why you are so against having free diagnostics under the free repair and support section? Just the other day I got a call from a guy with a broken laptop monitor. He wanted to do the repair himself but did not where to start. I gave him some advice, told him how to identify his laptops model number aswell as informed him on how to get a new one and what parts he should make sure are included. He was greatful and the service enabled him to get his own repairs underway. I did not charge him. Again, a diagnostic is a service, and I will offer free supprt or advice in the same sense as a free diagnostic. I dont know how to make it anymore clear. A diagnostic is clearly a service that enables users to repair their own machines, and I do it for free.  Users/RealComputers

20090716 13:50:59 nbsp If you want to be technical about it, the support or service is free but not the repair. The section is called free repair and support. I ofer free support.  Users/RealComputers

20090716 13:55:05 nbsp you seem to be bothered by my presence on wiki. Maybe you should back off and wait for the everyday users of wiki decide weather a free diagnostic qualifies as a free computer service or not.  Users/RealComputers

20090723 09:16:32 nbsp Already done. Yet another example of why we need a global IP ban. Users/WilliamLewis

20090723 14:28:46 nbsp Sexual advertising is illegal, and Id rather not see the wiki dragged into a legal issue. Users/Jteeples

20090723 14:39:57 nbsp A fine line.  A fine line... Users/Jteeples

20090723 20:25:50 nbsp You are correct, I realize that I was thinking of prostitutional advertising.  I will attempt to think more thoroughly when I post, but that is, after all, what the revert button is for {Insert smiley here} Users/Jteeples

20090728 09:06:35 nbsp Could you restore the DMUG and LUGOD listings on the Computer repair page? Its kinda unfair that they get delisted over a completely unrelated matter. Users/WilliamLewis

20090728 09:07:12 nbsp indeed
 Users/RealComputers

20090728 12:57:57 nbsp though I do not think there was anything wrong at all with the listing I had made, Im done dealing with this issue. You can unlock the computer repair page. I will not revert it to it previous state.  Users/RealComputers

20090728 15:38:44 nbsp Thanks!  Users/ElleWeber

20090729 01:35:24 nbsp That strikes me more as a wingless variety of dragon than a troll... Users/IDoNotExist

20090729 01:43:44 nbsp Alas, I dont have a troll.  But I do have a real life gnome photo that I might upload some day... Users/IDoNotExist

20090729 01:58:35 nbsp Ugh... Users/IDoNotExist

20090729 02:02:56 nbsp Your first pun was much much shrouder.  Users/IDoNotExist

20090729 15:41:03 nbsp Can you unlock the computer repair page, or at least remove the red box at the top? I am not going to try to add a listing in the free section.  Users/RealComputers

20090730 10:26:33 nbsp Are you ever going to remove the caption at the top of the computer repair page? That issue is dead and gone. I have said over and over Im not going to make any listing or do anything to that page. Is there a reason why you are ignoring me?  Users/RealComputers

20090730 20:07:31 nbsp Concerning my computers and space flight, I dont have many details.  JK microsystems Weve provided computers to the Space Systems Division of Oceaneering for years and they will only give us general information about their use.  They have told us that the computers have flown on the shuttle and ISS, running non lifecritical experiments and such.  As we respect our customers privacy, I couldnt say much more that that anyway.  As for the lowearth satellite application, our uflashTCP controller was used in a college lowearth orbit satellite. users/jimstewart

20090802 12:06:49 nbsp Is it just me or is the wiki responding extremely slowly today? Users/IDoNotExist

20090803 11:25:54 nbsp Not a problem.  Didnt think you were.  :) Users/IDoNotExist

20090803 11:42:41 nbsp Things seem to be calm. Can you remover the red box from the computer repair page? Users/RealComputers

20090805 18:23:47 nbsp Welcome to the wiki. BTW, I have to scroll down like 5/6 of the way through the page to hit your comment bar. Odd. Users/WilliamLewis

20090806 13:23:04 nbsp I am having an issue. I would appriciate some help. User JimStewart has decided to start leaving comments about things that have nothing at all to do with computer or Real Computers the business on the real computer page. He seems to be unhappy that I restored something he deleted earlier on the computer repair page, which was an edit by williamlewis. I am not asking you to get involved in that, but I think its not appropriate for anyone to leave comments that have nothing to do with the services performed by a business on a business page. I feel, judging by the past, that JimStewart could easily start leaving more comments on that page and I dont want to start an edit war. A simply suggestion from you to him that he leave such comments on a different page, like my user page, would go a long way, asuming you agree that such comments should not be added to a business page.  Users/RealComputers

20090806 13:28:09 nbsp Yes he is free to edit whatever he want, however that was the result and of a long and drawn out edit war in which many people agreed that the best solution was to have the listing as it is now. Either way, I care more about keeping comments that have nothing to do with business off of business pages.  Users/RealComputers

20090806 13:29:59 nbsp When I made a wiki account, I did not realize that it would have been better to use my real name at the time. I just wanted to make a business listing. I would have choses a different user name if I had been more familiar with the wiki.  Users/RealComputers

20090806 13:32:12 nbsp You have offered to help me determine what is appropriate for wiki usage in the past .. I am trying to take you up on that. Do you think it is appropriate for people to write comments on a business page that have nothing at all to do with the business? I know I have made some people not like me in the wiki, not on purpose, but I am just trying to do what I think is right here.  Users/RealComputers

20090806 13:40:02 nbsp Im sure JimStewart did not comment on the business listing on accident, since he refered to me as the owner or real computers. I do think that having my user account under this name does help when I am actually talking/commenting to someone about computer repair, But I would be happy to change it if people have an issue with it. Thanks for the brief help. Also, I simply just dont think that the listing there is advertisment like, I think it just describes the main services offered, which is what the short descriptions are supposed to do.  Users/RealComputers

20090806 13:46:19 nbsp I may really need your help now. As I feared this is probably going to start an edit war. JoePomidor has taken it upon himself to preserve the personal comment that JimStewart has left. Can you lock the real computer page for a few days or something, without any nonrelevent comments on it? Users/RealComputers

20090806 13:47:34 nbsp Hey...are you going to be returning to Davis any time soon?  Just curious.  :) Users/IDoNotExist

20090806 13:49:23 nbsp Jabberwokky .. are you trying to tell me that you think that comment was more than a personal attack? Lets be real for a moment. JimStewart is one of the people who I may have offended unintentionally during some edit wars. You cant honestly believe that his motives are to help the wiki and not to just hurt me, can you? Users/RealComputers

20090806 13:51:41 nbsp Well you are an admin are you not? But I will not ask you for any further help at your request.  Users/RealComputers

20090806 13:54:07 nbsp Well I do care. I will not stand for personal attacks on my business page. If people want to insult me, fine, but not on the real computers page.  Users/RealComputers

20090806 14:04:26 nbsp Yes they have the right to, but that doesnt mean that unrelated business comments/personal attacks belong on a business page. I am not debating that they have the right, I know they have the right, just as I have the right to disagree with comments that have nothing to do with real computers being on the real computers page.  Users/RealComputers

20090806 15:37:59 nbsp Can I ask you for a quick opinion on a nonargumentative issue. I am trying to get a better grasp of what these business pages are supposed to be like. It has been suggested that the real computers page sucks and so I went and took a look at all the other computer repair pages and found that the real computers page seems to be more informative than any other. I figured that was a good thing but maybe the point is not to be informative about specifics?  Users/RealComputers

20090808 13:29:51 nbsp Hah! Or perhaps I should ask if fluffers fold? Either way, Im not into starch. Users/robinlaughlin

20090810 16:04:04 nbsp Yeah, the number certainly caught my eye.  Since I moved, Ive been zippin around LA on a Honda Metro.  A lot of fun, but its essential for my sanity.   Ill weep if splitting lanes ever becomes illegal in CA.  Users/EdWins

20090819 14:14:33 nbsp I believe that if someone is a clear sockpuppet you should just delete all their comments. Users/PhilipNeustrom

20090820 12:59:09 nbsp Could still be useful to have that information all in one place.  Also, looks like Chemistry lists 1.5 research groups, but they are a huge department.  I cant imagine that thats their whole research program! Users/IDoNotExist

20090831 13:28:33 nbsp My chubby little dwarf hamsters used to have the cutest pounce, the times we treated them to live foods (crickets, mealworms).  Users/EdWins

20090902 08:52:37 nbsp Right, pages belong to the community, not to the wiki... that sounds better. Users/CovertProfessor



20090905 08:36:23 nbsp I dont think youre going to like my next edits to the page, though. Users/WilliamLewis


20090914 21:55:52 nbsp seed000.png seems to be awol! Users/CovertProfessor

20090915 11:10:21 nbsp Hmm, ok  I cleared my cache and the cute seed reappeared.  Sorry for the trouble. Users/CovertProfessor

20090915 14:29:18 nbsp I love your comment on the CCCC page, although I am astonished that it hasnt collapsed under its own weight into some kind of black hole of commentness. Users/JoePomidor


20090916 20:23:40 nbsp The current situation occurring with the dog trainer brings up a question I meant to ask a while ago.  A friend of mine is a business owner and did not want her page up at all.  She was looking into getting it removed but didnt want to start any sort of issues.  At the least, shed prefer to not have a comments page.  How can she go about making this happen? Users/SunjeetBaadkar

20090917 11:49:34 nbsp I added information about real computer being unaffiliated with other stores and basically restated what your comments on the page says. Can you please remove your comment? I feel it is very out of place and that it is information that no one needs.  Users/RealComputers

20090921 20:12:21 nbsp I figured as much after looking at some ips, I was gonna let you know tomorrow but your fast Users/StevenDaubert

20090921 23:32:31 nbsp I just wanted to stop by and thank you for all the hard work youre doing keeping the wiki flowing smoothly.  I figure you dont do it for praise or anything, I just wanted to let you know that many people appreciate it. Myself included.  Users/MasonMurray
I concur wholeheartedly with the previous statement  Users/StevenDaubert
  Thanks.  Were all in it together, and everybody adds what they can (with only a very few exceptions over the past years).  :)  jw

20090922 15:06:09 nbsp Thanks!  Ill put each map with their respective areas and such once Im satisfied enough :)  These were the kinds of maps I would have loved to have had during my apartment hunt in Davis.  Users/RyanMikulovsky

20090923 03:27:31 nbsp Books are nice, but isnt the sign in front of the building inherently more authoritative? Maybe there is some cartography cabal of ucd eggheads who are plotting to correct the sign someday soon? :) I think its especially funny whatever the consensus becomes here on the wiki, that its our very own picture contradicting us. I guess thats life with wiki... Users/NickSchmalenberger

20090923 04:02:25 nbsp Seriously though, we have often made decisions on the wiki to rename a page based on a sign in a picture on the page. If the sign is maintained by an authority on the topic of the page (business owner, university administration) then it is authoritative information on the topic. Which doesnt mean anybody needs to pay attention or care about the authority as such, so we should ultimately explain the whole issue and let people decide fully informed. Users/NickSchmalenberger

20090923 08:09:38 nbsp Actually the fact that they were able to address me by name while hiding behind a pseudonym and only added profanity sort of proves my point. Users/JasonAller

20090923 19:15:16 nbsp thanks, ill get some more photos up when i finally decide to bring my camera back out with me. Users/guero

20090925 14:58:22 nbsp I wanted to post this on the correct page for developers, but I cant remember what the page is called.  This is a method of reducing the impact of malicious users like the ones weve had recently...

Perhaps each time you get reverted by a gnome, you lose the ability to edit for some amount of time. That time starts very small, but doubles each time. Over time, if you are good and dont get reverted, your penalty gets reduced. If you start a revert war and get reverted by gnomes frequently, youll automagically lose your editing ability for quite some time, and the revert war will die almost immediately. Users/IDoNotExist

20090925 23:18:30 nbsp Hmmm...you might be right.  But wouldnt a gnome who reverts maliciously themselves be reverted, or become degnomified?  The penalty system requires trust in a small number of people who have known nonmalicious behavior.  Someone who violates that trust would rapidly not be considered worthy of the penalty producing power. Users/IDoNotExist

20090926 06:25:23 nbsp Hmmm...you could call it something else then.  Something that refers to people who have proven themselves trustworthy over time.  Snapes or Griffens, perhaps.  ;) Users/IDoNotExist

20091004 16:07:38 nbsp Why no, I hadnt heard of Blackmores Night but thanks for the tip. Users/DougWalter

20091006 11:38:30 nbsp Aha.  So thats where I should put such sightings.  Excellent! Users/RyanMikulovsky

20091006 16:51:15 nbsp Hi Evan, do you have any leads for web design work for a small business in Davis? Ive got someone who has three CDs of web info./pics/files that never made it onto a webpage, and hed like to get it up and running. Have domain name. Need new web host. Suggestions? Users/TimQuick

20091007 12:03:05 nbsp Thanks Evan! OK, I called Bill Kendrick  looked him up in phone book cause no contact info. on his Wiki profile, hope I got right number. Will take suggestions if you have any more. BTW, love the alternate universe version sock puppet on your user page  makes me laugh every time. Users/TimQuick

20091007 18:12:56 nbsp We tryed to hyper link the portfolio we just uploaded to our website at www.urbanbody.com and we dont know how to do it. Example.. when you click on Jordan Mitchell portfolio, we want it to take you to jordans portfolio on the urban body website.
Thanks! Users/UrbanBodyStaff

20091012 23:12:38 nbsp Perhaps Users/JonLi/Thomas Kuhns The Structures of Scientific Revolutions key excerpts this page should be black holed, too?  It seems a bit beyond fair use quotations. Users/CovertProfessor

20091013 15:57:02 nbsp I understand.   Users/CovertProfessor

20091018 16:51:33 nbsp Well, I got it 23 weeks ago, before seasonal flu had hit. It started with a rapidly developing fever (which eventually peaked around 103), and also body aches and general fatigue. I talked to an advice nurse through Kaiser, and she said that it was basically assured it was swine flu. They are actually discouraging folk from coming in, unless its an emergency, so I have a feeling that the incidence rate is grossly underreported. Users/JoePomidor

20091028 11:20:00 nbsp I have a business license. Also, please dont remove info about price matching. I have sent comments to the user who left the comments about licensing on the RC page. If he for some reason feels that his comments need to be displayed even though RC despite the fact that I have a business license for real computers, let him voice it himself.  Users/RealComputers

20091028 11:29:41 nbsp You dont have to like me but please erspect my right to remove comments that are state untrue idea directed to hurt my business; especially if they are left by a random person and not someone who has been a customer of mine. I have a business license. If you dont believe me I can prove it to you. Preserving comments that say that I do not have a license is not only confusing but mean spirited and i think you already know that. Ill ask you to do the same as I asked covertprofessor, please stay out of events that have to do with me as much as possible. You dont need to protect people comments or edits without even giving the origional author a chance to do it themselve. You take the control away from the users and that is just not ok. If the user wants his comments maintained, he will indicate. Since they are untrue, I imagine that he would mine and if he does then he is perserving untrue comments purely to try a belittle my business.  Users/RealComputers

20091028 15:56:24 nbsp THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YEESH! Users/AdobeManagement

20091028 16:00:30 nbsp What do you think of the pics i added? Users/RealComputers

20091029 00:06:34 nbsp nice poem on the featured page  an original? Users/TimMatthiessen

20091030 19:32:24 nbsp Sorry, I didnt see that you had banned him when I typed up my comment.  Ill be surprised, though, if a 24 hour ban is enough.  I really do think that he needs to be educated about what the wiki is for.  But as you know, multiple people (including you) have tried to explain it to him multiple times.  I dont know if he just doesnt get it or if he gets it and just doesnt care because his business is all that he cares about.  This is the basis for my suggestion to give him some time to show that he gets the idea of the wiki without being allowed to edit the computer repair pages (though the sockpuppeting today was not promising in that regard), similar to the idea of putting him on probationary status. Users/CovertProfessor

20091031 17:39:21 nbsp Cute! Users/PhilipNeustrom

20091101 11:33:29 nbsp I like that noborder look.  Is there a way to do text flow around an image?  That could make the wiki really professional looking... Users/IDoNotExist

20091102 08:24:32 nbsp Why did you delete your nice comment on the ILD page? Users/CovertProfessor

20091102 09:27:24 nbsp Just in the interests of being precise, everything is copyrighted on the wiki. If it werent, our licenses wouldnt work and people could do whatever they wanted with the content.  Users/WilliamLewis

20091102 09:51:47 nbsp To me, what makes Davis a small town is that when I meet someone new, that person generally knows other people I know, or I soon find out that I run into that same person elsewhere.  While its hard to get used to if youve never experienced it before (and I never had), overall I find it quite nice.  Being a small town has its positives and negatives, just as being a large city does.  Personally, I hate large cities. Users/CovertProfessor

20091102 09:57:21 nbsp Hi Evan, I asked another administrator to archive the comments as all are references to previous management and are not pertinent. Are you able to archive them? If so, please do so. Thank you. Users/sritern

20091102 13:40:31 nbsp Hi Evan, I asked another administrator to archive the comments as all are references to previous management and are not pertinent. Are you able to archive them? If so, please do so. Thank you. Users/sritern

2009112 22:17:59 nbsp Jabberwokky? That looked so offkilter, and just weird, Ive bestirred myself to let you know
youve misspelled Jabberwocky (a poem about the Jabberwock actuallywhy you would nickname yourself for a poem about a burbling monster with eyes of flame is material for another comment) as in:

`Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
  Did gyre and gimble in the wabe:
All mimsy were the borogoves,
  And the mome raths outgrabe.

Beware the Jabberwock, my son!
  The jaws that bite, the claws that catch!
Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun
  The frumious Bandersnatch!

He took his vorpal sword in hand:
  Long time the manxome foe he sought 
So rested he by the Tumtum tree,
  And stood awhile in thought.

And, as in uffish thought he stood,
  The Jabberwock, with eyes of flame,
Came whiffling through the tulgey wood,
  And burbled as it came!

One, two! One, two! And through and through
  The vorpal blade went snickersnack!
He left it dead, and with its head
  He went galumphing back.

And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
  Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!
  He chortled in his joy.


`Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
  Did gyre and gimble in the wabe;
All mimsy were the borogoves,
  And the mome raths outgrabe.

Sredni Vashtar



20091103 11:22:08 nbsp Whats your Kibo number? Users/CovertProfessor

20091103 15:37:26 nbsp Sure, Im glad to help. Users/NickSchmalenberger

20091106 07:33:46 nbsp That guy spammed with 335 edits, but not to me :(   Im not interesting enough?! Users/EdWins

20091106 08:11:23 nbsp I do wonder why spammers are such bad programmers.  Do they think that everyones (names) should be surrounded by parentheses? Users/IDoNotExist

20091106 08:19:47 nbsp Ugh.  Thanks for cleaning up that mess. Users/CovertProfessor

20091106 10:33:54 nbsp Thanks, for cleaning up the spam. I saw a long list of edits and wonder what was going on.  Users/SimonFung

20091106 11:03:34 nbsp Thanks for cleaning up my page. I hadnt checked it in awhile. Users/BrookeB

20091106 22:12:55 nbsp Thanks for the revert. Although Jessica did sound convincing :P Users/BrandonBarrette

20091107 18:19:14 nbsp Eh, not really  Ive just been paying attention to recent events and wanted the wiki to reflect what had happened a little better.  But its an excellent idea to have a growth page  obviously, an important issue here in the past and future, and Ill think about whether there are links to add. Users/CovertProfessor

20091107 19:56:43 nbsp Yeah, you said judicial action, so I figured this was fair game.  I also figured that any peripheral development in Davis would be controversial.  :) Users/CovertProfessor

20091107 20:05:08 nbsp Gotta go now, but found all kinds of good stuff http://cityofdavis.org/CDD/cultural/30years/chapt06.cfm here and http://cityofdavis.org/CDD/cultural/30years/chapt07.cfm here. Users/CovertProfessor

20091107 21:17:53 nbsp I redirected the url http://www.maceranch.com, which I own, to http://daviswiki.org/Mace_Ranch.  I presume it wont be a problem. Users/JimStewart

20091108 12:10:44 nbsp thanks for despammage! looks like lots of that going round. Users/IrinaChakraborty

20091108 21:50:56 nbsp Thank you for fighting the good fight. Users/EdHenn

20091109 11:23:46 nbsp Lol, thanks for catching that on Davis Enterprise. Users/NickSchmalenberger

20091109 19:25:11 nbsp Gasp! My near and dear friend, youve erased her comment! How rude! ...but thank you, keep up the good work. Users/MichelleAccurso

20091110 17:24:08 nbsp youre good.  Users/MichelleAccurso

20091110 18:14:46 nbsp Good quotes from you in the DE article.  Too bad they couldnt mention the URL. Users/CovertProfessor

20091110 20:10:26 nbsp Hey you seem to be an important man in DavisWiki (based upon my Bebearded Measurement Standard) and I was wondering if its okay to list myself as on the Ryan Slate in the Fall 2009 ASUCD Candidate/Election page? I dont like being in a pile of Indis Users/GreatRyan

20091111 10:07:09 nbsp Thanks for cleaning up the spam on my page, Jb.  I really appreciate all you do here!  Hope things are going well in PA.  I wonder if sometime (when you have a minutehah!) you could help me reorganize/clean up the front page on my Christian Music Central http://christianmusiccentral.wikispot.org/.  My goal is for it to be a place where Christian music fans can link to their favorite songs, esp on YouTube.  At this point its not very user friendly.  If you have any ideas Id sure appreciate it! Users/RichLindvall

20091112 17:51:43 nbsp Hehehe, thank you. So do you have IPv6 yet? Users/NickSchmalenberger

20091116 14:38:40 nbsp Hi Mr. Edwards, I am new to this community project and I have now just read your multiple offers to help.  I saw a comment about, Please clean my basement. Thank you. ;) in response to my first comment and that really deterred me from this whole project with the harsh words.  I can see how my request may have been odd and I apologize if it was too demanding.  The intention was never that.  I really appreciate your follow up, volunteering and effort as I am a beginner and have limited capabilities.  The new manager is Professional Home Builders as of March 2009.  If it is not too much trouble, I thank you for your offer to assist in archiving. Users/sritern

20091118 20:18:34 nbsp Thanks for cleaning up my page! Users/ChristineLim

20091125 08:01:17 nbsp I think Scott was asking what are the hours for Subway downtown. Ill try to find out if I remember. Users/NickSchmalenberger

20091128 14:36:50 nbsp Am I the only one getting really horrible response times from the wikiserver? Users/IDoNotExist

20091201 13:59:48 nbsp You editors do good work!
http://theaggie.org/article/2009/11/18/daviswikideclaredworldsbestlocalwiki

:)  Users/GreatRyan

20091203 17:48:04 nbsp Why arent you editing?  We like what you do! Users/IDoNotExist
  Agreed!  Your voice and edits are very much needed around here.  And weve all gotten a bit of negative feedback  thats par for the course as editors disagree, right?   Users/CovertProfessor
    Thanks for the support.  There was a person who was quite thoughtfully negative about the work of active editors (and has been for quite awhile), and so Ive been thinking how will this change be perceived rather than how can I make this entry better when I click edit, and thats not a good mindset to contribute with.  Im not worried about it; Im not swearing off the wiki or anything.  Im just taking it slow for a bit.   jw
     Well, we all need our occasional slow periods.  But remember that not everyone may have agreed with the criticism you received.  cp

20091203 22:46:42 nbsp Has the ban on Brian been lifted? Users/IDoNotExist
  And if so, did it come with conditions?  I for one really need to see him editing pages other than the page for his company.  I think Ill have to go away from the wiki for awhile myself if he starts obsessively fiddling, fiddling, fiddling with that page and the general computer repair page again.  Users/CovertProfessor
    Thats pretty much up to the community and what it will tolerate.  Yes, his account is off the ban list.  Im loathe (but not unwilling) to enforce a permanent ban on a member of the Davis community who seems to not be malicious or willfully ignorant and who has not prompted a clear and active community consensus for a permanent ban.  An increasing length of time to temporary bans will admittedly turn into a de facto permanent ban.  As a side note, I also removed three CA Comcast IPs from the block list.  jw
     I agree that hes shown little sign of maliciousness.  Whether he is willfully ignorant... well, we shall see.  cp

20091204 16:15:32 nbsp Thanks for removing the spam on my user page from 11/6. I dont visit DWiki that much anymore. Users/TusharRawat

20091205 02:30:16 nbsp First get treated, then edit the wiki.  You cant revert yourself.  Hope you feel better. Users/IDoNotExist
   Thanks.  It was a quick edit on the way out the door as I was standing there while Sarah collected a few things.  I was trying to keep things lighthearted while I was in pain.  I just walked back in the door, having had a CAT scan and an IV with morphine and some other pain med.  Turns out that, yes, it was a kidney stone, and Ill be fine.  I also had an infection, so Ive got some minor followup scheduled.  Its been an utterly amazingly painful couple of hours, and its something Ill never wish on anybody else.  I also now seriously respect how well pain medication works (and how wonderful my wife is).  In short: Kidney stones BAD.  jw

20091213 18:12:01 nbsp Thanks. On the Solo Dining link being removed, I had assumed it had just gotten removed during the revert from the other spam posts, but thanks for the howto on checking the changelog. I figured I should readd it to the main page so hopefully more people will see it in the longterm and contribute to it, but I understand where you guys are coming from. If it gets reverted out, thats fine. Cheers! Users/H4rry

20091222 17:36:12 nbsp contain yourself Users/StevenDaubert

20091222 17:54:04 nbsp contain yourself Users/StevenDaubert

20091231 09:33:57 nbsp I think weve seen baba car spam before. Definitely stuff about car hire and such. Users/WilliamLewis

20100101 23:58:01 nbsp what do you think of the morning glory spillway page?  Call it morbid curiosity...
 Users/StevenDaubert

20100102 22:04:17 nbsp I think its a neat page that a bunch of people came together to make (all the content) and its an interesting article to point out to print / old media for an nice example of what the wiki can do

or not Users/StevenDaubert

20100107 21:59:40 nbsp Thanks.  Im trying.  Not quite there yet, it seems.  :) Users/CovertProfessor

20100110 13:18:02 nbsp Why link to frozen yogurt on the businesses that sell ice cream, rather than ice cream? Users/CovertProfessor

20100110 17:45:48 nbsp Thank you!  It just occurred to me that there is also gelato.  Do you think we need a frozen desserts page, or is that overkill?  I did create a desserts page awhile back, but that is pretty bare bones, so maybe frozen desserts is overkill. Users/CovertProfessor

20100110 18:51:59 nbsp Right, I created that dessert page.  Just forgotten what Id called it.  See, dessert is high priority.  As far as I am concerned, it is relevant to all the wiki pages.  But I make an effort to control myself. Users/CovertProfessor

20100110 19:50:33 nbsp Ah, ok.  I think I misunderstood your original motivation.  When I saw you linking to frozen yogurt from businesses whose primary product is ice cream, I thought ah, JW thinks that someone looking for ice cream might also be interested in frozen yogurt.  (I see now that that was not your intent  I think I missed the first comment that you left on my page today).  So then I thought, well, if you are interested in ice cream, you might also be interested in gelato  or, more generally, given interest any one of them, you might be interested in the other two.

So, now that Ive done it, what do you think?  It makes sense to me from the point of view of someone looking for something sweet and cold on a hot summer day. Users/CovertProfessor

20100110 20:33:51 nbsp I think it makes sense the way it is now, my original puzzlement notwithstanding.  I think its clear enough that its just a general comment about where to find more info on the cold, sweet stuff.  Plus it appeals to my sense of fairness that each points to the others.  Maybe its because I wouldnt mind, e.g., someone looking at the Baskin Robbins page discovering that there is a really cool gelato place just a couple of blocks away. Users/CovertProfessor

20100112 08:13:40 nbsp Did you mean a new person might prefer to use a comment box on Users/kimthegoodtwin? I dont disagree, but Im curious. Users/NickSchmalenberger

20100113 18:09:15 nbsp Perhaps this is from a work computer at that place, but Jacqueline is http://daviswiki.org/Users/Jacquelyn9?actionuserinfo editing from the same IP as former noted shills/sockpuppets such as http://daviswiki.org/Users/LMarie?actionuserinfo this person who had a small convo (of some sort) with Jason, and this http://daviswiki.org/Users/CGovers?actionuserinfo account.  Users/EdWins

20100113 18:18:54 nbsp I added a comment to the talk page to make it a bigger discussion within the community  my assumption is that its likely a shared work computer, as theres actually three other editors with singlepurpose accounts coming from it. Guess I thought of sharing with you first since you always do the hardtodo personal outreach. Cheers! Users/EdWins

20100115 16:33:00 nbsp Thanks.  Given the comments on the other pages, it seems like there is some hope for him/her becoming a more productive wikizen. Users/CovertProfessor

JabberWokky publishes and syndicates coupons for a living (using a wiki engine, no less)... and so is staying out of {{{Bounty and Savings/Talk this discussion}}} (at least directly).  But he thinks its interesting to watch, and is curious nobody has raised the factFootnote(Hopefully this fact is less about coupons and more about wiki content) that the links are more designed to promote a secondary resource (the blog) rather than linking to the actual coupons and therefore connecting the community entry to the resource (coupon) itself.  With DLM, there is direct value from interviews and research (a la an Enterprise, SNR or SacBee link).  This is more like linking to an LJ post that links to an SNR article.

20100119 09:30:45 nbsp Hello. I have a small favor to ask. I added a small bit of info to the real computers page next to my phone number and I was hoping you could edit it to make the format/asthetics better, as I dont really know how to do that and I figure it would only take you a second. If you go to the real computer page you will see what I mean.  Users/RealComputers

20100119 10:13:59 nbsp Heh  I know the feeling.  Enjoy the welldeserved nap. Users/CovertProfessor

20100121 11:58:21 nbsp I havent played CCGs since elementary school. I though premiere might have some official significance, too, so I googled. The first few hits were all about Droms. Its apparently their language and theirs alone, although I suppose I could have looked harder. Users/WilliamLewis

20100121 12:21:10 nbsp Hello. I have an ussie that I would like some help with. Recently a customer left a comment/review on the real computer site that states that I deleted a years worth of data from her computer. This is 100% untrue however, I saved all of her files and infact still have them on my computer. She thinks that I deleted her emails but in reality she just needed to setup outlook again. This person is just old and knows basically nothing about computers, and there fore left a completely inaccurate account of what happened to her computer. I do not have this customers phone number or I would call her, explain the situation to her and ask her to remove her comment, and I dont think she is ever going to log in to daviswiki to see that I replied to her commment. I was hoping I could remove it from the page. If she does log in again and decides to readd it the I will not touch it but I dont think I should have to preserve a customers rant about how little confused they are, which is all this is because the customers documents were backed up in full including her emails. basically I am asking because I feel that it would be totally fine to remove because in reality I did save all of her data and can prove it, but I dont want to start and edit war here so please let me know your opinion on this.   Users/RealComputers

20100121 12:25:23 nbsp High maintenance maintenance.  Beware... Users/IDoNotExist

20100121 12:29:26 nbsp I did reply and explain the situation but I still dont think that it needs to remain. It is simply a canse where a customer was confused about what happened to her computer, but I did not delete any of her data and I dont want other customers to think that that might happen. It has never happened. I mean, it is 100% untrue .. I really think I should be able to remove it. Its not to anyone benifit to have to read through the the whole thing because if they do they will just find that a customer was confused and thats all. Its not helpful info to anyone, But I was going to add some info in its place. Some kind of warning to people that if they have me reinstall windows on their computer, that means they will have to reconfigure a lot of stuff even though their files are all saved. Thats really all that could be benificial from this occurance.  Users/RealComputers

20100121 17:05:03 nbsp Yeah, Im not in a rush re: Wes editorial on my comment. Users/rfrazier

20100121 19:51:03 nbsp Hey thanks for the nice note! I love creating pages for people who have been so influential to DTown. But I am still such a WikiNoob. Like...isnt there a tag for signing and timestamping my comments? If there is I dont know it.  Users/WillArnold Users/WillArnold

20100121 19:52:46 nbsp   Nope! it happens automatically! I teach myself good! Users/WillArnold

20100125 11:37:27 nbsp Dont do to Droms what you wont do to Bizarro World. He became upset that some Wikivolunte3er posted a link to the Droms Page on His, so its removed and now you continually add a link to his page on Droms. Knock it off. Anyone who visits my personal page will see that I state my experience with both locations, I dont think it needs any links on either of the other pages to express this. Users/WesOne

20100125 11:55:52 nbsp Apologies for the snark. I admit that I didnt respond well to being called a nonperson. Having witnessed the back and forth, I felt that a positive statement of the facts was the best way to go and was shocked to accused of anything for it.
2000 would be a little bit before my time. Ive been a certified Magic Judge since 2004. My name is Riki Hayashi and if you dig around on the Internet you will find that have written over 150 articles on the game for various strategy sites. Most recently those articles have pertained to the judging side of things, and in that vein I find that using precise terminology is very important to avoid confusion and to educate players. Given that many Magic players will recognize me as Risky, I chose to emphasize the things like officiating that would resonate with my
I picked up the nickname Risky sometime around 200001. I think I started using it as my online name around 2002. Many Magic players who Ive gotten to know first through the Internet call me Risky. Im looking forward to contributing more to this wiki because Ive been in this town for 20 years now and unless something dramatic happens, Ill be here for the foreseeable future. Users/Risky

20100125 20:41:58 nbsp Brent is uploading pictures he should have uploaded years ago. Users/BrentLaabs

20100125 23:28:59 nbsp Londons Fish and Chips was Londons Fish and Chips when I went by it on Wednesday night. Mmmm photographic evidence is necessary at this point. (And Ill add it if nobody beats me to it) Users/WilliamLewis

20100126 14:15:02 nbsp Worst. Swingers. Ever. Users/rfrazier

20100126 14:57:09 nbsp Im having all sorts of errors trying to save changes and on quick replies today.  I assumed it was something my browser (chrome) was doing wrong.   Users/EdWins

20100126 15:31:26 nbsp Im going to see if I can find the info I saved from back during the Target campaign. I know the proponents made a big deal out of the LEED certification, and we didnt think that Silver was really that much to brag about. But I want actual data. I agree it would be a useful topic! Users/DonShor

20100126 15:31:51 nbsp I will find out his exact retire date. Im not sure as to when the transition happened or as to how interim the new chair is. Users/CarlosBarahona

20100126 17:49:13 nbsp Cant face Recent Changes right now... Gnome strength fading... Users/JasonAller

20100127 11:43:09 nbsp I understood the joke, hence my comment about geek cred. I still found it a bit irksome. Users/JohnathanQuigley

20100127 11:50:00 nbsp By the way sorry if this is a bit of a contrary post, but I have a pet peeve regarding people who think any joke, however lacking in wit or inventiveness, is funny, so long as it involves a reference with a sufficiently narrow audience. I see the humor in the 2600 joke, and if it were the only one youd tried to explain to me I wouldnt be here, but I remember feeling a similar annoyance when you came to my page to explain the Wishburger joke. I also got that one, but the joke wasnt really relevent the fact is, the information regarding the wishburger was inaccurate, and a wishburger was never a secret item on the InnOut menu (regardless of how funny it would be if it were.) I let that one go at the time to avoid seeming like an ass, but I hope youll understand I dont want this to be a regular thing, you explaining helpfully that things are funny because theyre a reference to something else. Users/JohnathanQuigley

20100127 17:27:47 nbsp Ah... again. Im sorry. Id say lets start over, but Ill probably be an ass again in the future sometime, so well just start over after that one :P Not that I like being an ass, but you know... I havent figured out a good way not to be once in awhile. Anyway, as you seem to be already aware, my generation generally regards geek as a neutral or even positive quality, and thats how I meant it in my discussion page; it hadnt occurred to me that it would be considered an insult. And thank you and anyone who helped you for your work on the featured page. Its not the reason Im apologizing, but its awesome nonetheless. As far as the name of the school, it is Montessori Country Day (I havent read the talk page and only skimmed the feature, it looks like you got some of it figured out after your last post on my page). I dont know much about it other than what I found on the web; I emailed my friend who has children there and asked her to either edit the page or send me more information about it, if she knows anything. So... time to relax a little bit and stop complaining about everyone, I guess. Thanks again, and again I apologize to you and everyone else I was an ass to, and I will do my best to be more civil in the future. Users/JohnathanQuigley

20100128 08:36:43 nbsp Im sorry you disagree with me. That edit comment is completely appropriate as Brians actions are outrageous. Brian has had contempt for the wiki and the editing process for a long time. As far as I am concerned now, Brian is a persona non gratia. Users/WilliamLewis

20100128 08:39:47 nbsp And by the way, a personal attack would be something like calling him a moron, which I didnt do. Users/WilliamLewis

20100128 08:40:03 nbsp Hello. Sorry to bother you but I would like to list myself in the free section of computer repair, just as myself (Brian Tangney, not as real computers. William Lewis is bent on preventing this and based on the past I dont think trying to deal with him directly will be of much good. Can you please weigh in your opinion on this? I really do help lots of people for free over the phone without ever making any money. Its not a marketing tactic. Users/RealComputers

20100128 09:05:10 nbsp William Lewis is saying that I need to remove prices from the RC wiki page Do I rewally need to do that? There are only 3 or 4 listed and they are the most common repairs, and I think that makes it pretty relevent. Users/RealComputers

20100128 10:26:06 nbsp Do you realize you just asked me not to remove the services from a different computer repair page but blocked me for trying to preserve them on the RC page?  Users/RealComputers

20100128 12:01:10 nbsp History has shown that this is not going to change.  He either does not understand what people are trying to tell him, or does not want to change.  I dont think that anything is likely to improve this situation at this point.  Users/IDoNotExist

20100128 14:33:49 nbsp Thanks for the kind words!  Its been a lot of fun getting more involved.  I used to use the wiki mostly to get information.  I hope Jason wont kill me, but I was one of those people who used it essentially as a Yelp clone.  Now that I consider myself to be more of a Davisite, though, rather than a student, Im a lot more interested in being involved with the community... as a community.  Its also a great way to keep up with local events and issues.  And new restaurants! Users/TomGarberson

20100129 13:45:28 nbsp It seems that william lewis is the only person that has an issue with a list of services on the RC page, no one else seems to mind but if you will unlock the page I will condense the list and this can be done with.  Users/RealComputers

20100129 16:46:19 nbsp This is VERY late, but thanks for the page cleanup! Much appreciated. Users/JoeyChen

20100129 21:38:01 nbsp Now http://daviswiki.org/Telephones?actiondiff&version29&version18 that is 2600 enough for me. Users/WilliamLewis

20100129 22:16:53 nbsp http://daviswiki.org/Bizarro_World/Talk?actiondiff&version2394&version1393 My thoughts, exactly.  Ill be very disturbed if we cave on this. Users/CovertProfessor

20100130 08:57:58 nbsp Yo. Respectfully I am wondering if there is something you are wating for in regards to the RC page. All the discussion about it has stoped and it seems like for the most part people dont have a problem with the service being listed at all but a few people have said it could be a little shorter.  Users/RealComputers

20100130 09:09:03 nbsp I just noticed ur discussion about Bizzaro World. I do not envy the task you guys have of maintaining the wiki with everyones different opinions of how its supposed to work. Guess the RC page is not the only page that gets debated like this. Ill try to keep the cause for debate as minimal as possible ) Users/RealComputers

20100130 14:01:08 nbsp Sorry to upset you. I had only intended for my last comment to be friendly.  Users/RealComputers

20100130 21:31:40 nbsp Im happy to make http://daviswiki.org/Bizarro_World/Talk?actiondiff&version2413&version1412 the statement, but Im not quite sure what youre asking for.  My proposal would be to return to http://daviswiki.org/Bizarro_World?actionrecall&version132 version 132. Users/CovertProfessor

20100130 22:56:57 nbsp Yeah, that one is fine with me.  I just didnt know how you envisioned this proposal going. Users/CovertProfessor

20100131 17:12:50 nbsp At the least, cant the RC page remain locked with the content still there? Just lock it without the service listed until we finish this discussion if needed. Is this an unreasonable request? Users/RealComputers

20100131 22:00:36 nbsp I asked around a little and didnt get any recommendations for other browserbased IRC clients.  One of these days Ill stop being lazy and hop on there.  Im just so comfortably insulated in my Chrome bubble that going back to Firefox seems somehow... dirty.  Not that dirty is necessarily a bad thing! Users/TomGarberson


20100201 23:59:59 nbsp Awesome Groundhog Day logo! Users/TomGarberson

20100202 19:05:34 nbsp Hey there;   I wanted to make a wiki page that links from my business page so I can post photos and bios about my staff and photos of our office.  before I spend a bunch of time doing this, I would like to ask if this is an appropriate thing to do.  I was hoping I could do it like a tab at the top of the page like the talk page, I dont know how to create another tab for the business page.  do you think that is a good idea or is it not really the sort of think the wiki is for, I think people would like to see photos of the staff and have a bit more info about the practice but I dont want it to look cluttered. Users/DagonJones

20100203 00:38:08 nbsp Okay, your Proposal for a Radical Change cracked me up. Thank you for that. Also... do you ever sleep? :P Users/MichellePalmer

20100203 00:40:30 nbsp When I am a really old guy I intend to mumble stories about ALL the old trees in town between slurps of metamucil. Users/DonShor

20100203 08:30:37 nbsp The d6 roller isnt working for me with Chrome.  I just get those unknown character squares :( Users/TomGarberson

20100203 10:37:22 nbsp Yes!  Thanks! Users/TomGarberson

20100203 16:48:39 nbsp Oh, I hate that usage.  How about got your game on?  Whats in a game?  games davisites play  heres how to game in davis (heres how to game davis?) Users/CovertProfessor

20100203 17:11:17 nbsp I could not decide which looked neater. Users/hankim

20100203 18:55:42 nbsp Thanks for the info, and thanks for fixing it!  It looks all purty right there on the page.  You know... in an XKCD kinda way. Users/TomGarberson

20100204 14:26:55 nbsp Very well said on the BW talk page.  You oughta consider saving that somewhere to pull out again in the future should it become relevant. Users/TomGarberson
 Agreed.  Too bad he still doesnt seem to be getting it.  cp

20100205 00:04:29 nbsp Thanks for help with my list.  I couldnt figure out how to do that. Users/LawReview

20100205 17:39:49 nbsp Wow, http://daviswiki.org/Davis_Food_Coop/Boycott,_Divestment,_And_Sanctions?actiondiff&version292&version191 your edit is now one of my all time favorite replies!  That one made me laugh a bit :) Users/EdWins

20100205 19:56:47 nbsp Editing by phone... that sounds torturous (until someone makes that cool wikispot iphone app...).  Hope Berkeley works out for you! Users/CovertProfessor

20100206 15:38:29 nbsp Yeah  you think we should put em back? Users/CovertProfessor

20100206 19:37:11 nbsp Sarah and I had Chinese for dinner.  Fortune cookie: Not just live and let live... but live and HELP live. Users/JabberWokky

20100207 12:37:22 nbsp I would just imagine that if a place is doing true slow barbecue they can probably cook some wings on a bbq instead of fry them as well. Wings to me are Qd and not fried. Baking can work if you really want to cheat Users/StevenDaubert

20100209 09:02:58 nbsp I understand.  I agree that the current discussion wasnt productive  off in different directions and about hypothetical edits.  So, I hope discussion does indeed end, although as Im sure youve seen by now I replaced the page as a placeholder for the future. Users/CovertProfessor

20100209 18:33:58 nbsp I think that the page needs some reorganizing. The general information should stay at the top, then the history and depledging information, and finally the pros and cons. I started trying to organize everything in my head and realized that this might take longer than I originally planned because some of the information there is in need of citation, which might be difficult because proving that the organization really did bring about their successes is not very easy (of course removing the ones that cannot be proven I feel would reflect my personal bias). This is going to be some fun internal conflict. Users/hankim

20100211 12:03:23 nbsp Herewith, previously cut, but now permanently reenshrined, Lewis Carrolls riff on your wikihandle Users/SredniVashtar
JABBERWOCKY
(from Through the LookingGlass and What Alice Found There, 1872)

`Twas brillig, and the slithy toves

      Did gyre and gimble in the wabe:

All mimsy were the borogoves,

      And the mome raths outgrabe.

Beware the Jabberwock, my son!

      The jaws that bite, the claws that catch!

Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun

      The frumious Bandersnatch!

He took his vorpal sword in hand:

      Long time the manxome foe he sought —

So rested he by the Tumtum tree,

      And stood awhile in thought.

And, as in uffish thought he stood,

      The Jabberwock, with eyes of flame,

Came whiffling through the tulgey wood,

      And burbled as it came!

One, two! One, two! And through and through

      The vorpal blade went snickersnack!

He left it dead, and with its head

      He went galumphing back.

And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?

      Come to my arms, my beamish boy!

O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!

      He chortled in his joy.

`Twas brillig, and the slithy toves

      Did gyre and gimble in the wabe;

All mimsy were the borogoves,

      And the mome raths outgrabe.

20100211 19:02:27 nbsp slow and steady wins the wiki race, huh?  ok, ill replace the apartment template and keep plugging away. Users/KemblePope

20100212 09:18:58 nbsp Your right about the tea list, I didnt notice that they didnt capitalize (on purpose I guess)  btw.  I thought it would be interesting to note that there was a band by the name of Blade Fetish  in my hometown of Santa Barbara, they only had one album entitled Absinthe (around 1993) and they had a song called Jabberwokky where they just sang the lyrics to the poem to music.  The music is droning goth heavy metal, but still a pretty interesting song.  See if you can find an mp3 on the internet, if not I could try to email it to you.  I always did like the poem, it is the only poem I ever took the time to memorize.  I hope you have also seen the Terry Gilliam movie Jabberwokky  I was always fond of that film. Users/DagonJones

20100212 13:09:26 nbsp I thought it was strange to have 2 ks.  You should see Dr. Parnassus, it is very very good.  I am an HUGE Tom Waits fan and he is just awesome as the devil. Users/DagonJones

20100212 13:10:47 nbsp Thanks for the template thoughts... Ill try to reign in my OCD impulses and let the creativity flow more often Users/KemblePope

20100213 17:11:57 nbsp you know you like my alternate addy Users/StevenDaubert

20100215 12:22:21 nbsp Apparently, they were a fallen star... Users/IDoNotExist

20100215 18:28:00 nbsp I think thats a real wildcard... Users/IDoNotExist

20100219 12:14:18 nbsp I liked clam down much better... Users/DavidGrundler

20100219 20:04:54 nbsp Wow.  If only we had a page on the effort to bring Googles lightpipes to Davis! Users/IDoNotExist

20100219 20:15:41 nbsp Ugh...why does the page keep changing into different pages? Users/IDoNotExist

20100220 15:07:59 nbsp Where did the rest of the content go?  Many of the ideas that were on the first page are now not on either page...(such as the proposed uses and advantages for Davis) Users/IDoNotExist

20100220 15:16:01 nbsp Can you add the ones that are not duplicated elsewhere back in...somewhere?

Thanks for your help! Users/IDoNotExist

20100220 15:20:21 nbsp Sorry...didnt see that you were still working on it.  Im popping in and out at random... Users/IDoNotExist

20100220 15:55:04 nbsp Im sorry, I didnt understand how you were going about the merges. Please continue and I wont interfere. Users/foo

20100221 10:08:32 nbsp I was only keeping half an eye on the fun yesterday... am I right in thinking that people were giving you such a hard time that the edits to the Google Fiber pages were never completed? Users/CovertProfessor
  I hope so.  He deserves it for trying to fix a big mess.  Stupid JW and his stupid solving of problems.  Needs more drama! Users/TomGarberson

20100221 11:10:17 nbsp Do you mean that you want to delete what was the original page?  (At this point, Im not totally sure what page is which any more.)  There was a lot of coordination being done there between Wikifolk, the Chamber of Commerce, and the City Council.  (See KemblePopes comments.)  Its important to keep that going, otherwise, we may lose much of the momentum and coordination that we had... Users/IDoNotExist

20100221 11:21:25 nbsp Id say you took the right approach to it.  Get the process started of getting things condensed and reorganized.  If there are issues with the content and organization after, they can be addressed, but we were all kind of at a stalemate before you did the redirects and condensing.  Consensus that the setup was really bad doesnt fix the setup!  Kind of reminds me of the tax code... Users/TomGarberson

20100221 11:28:32 nbsp Oh, I didnt mean that stuff.  You had mentioned to Covert that you might delete the talk page in a few days (I think the talk page is what the original page now is?) Users/IDoNotExist

20100221 12:47:36 nbsp Ahhh...OK.  I didnt realize that it had been split like that.  Got lost in all the changes... Users/IDoNotExist

20100221 13:58:43 nbsp Well, thank you for doing all that, and Im sorry that an already difficult task was made more difficult.  I was a bit lost before you started and got even more lost due to the crossedits.  Seems as though someone has control issues.  Anyway, as you say, it looks like its all there now, or if anything is missing, Im sure we can recreate it.   Users/CovertProfessor

20100221 14:26:31 nbsp Bizarro World/Talk Page deleted.... is it really true? Or is it going to rise up again like the living dead?! Users/DonShor

20100221 15:19:26 nbsp I just had to comment that this load of your page resulted in 2 AlysonMorgans in the random people section.  Whatre the odds? Users/BrettHall

20100222 02:16:10 nbsp al ka seltz er Users/StevenDaubert

20100223 09:57:28 nbsp Jason, JW: Kemble Pope has asked us to determine who should attend the first Google Fiber steering committee meeting, which will be held on March 3rd.  The representative will not be coming to speak for the Wiki, but should be able to take a leadership role in directing the Wiki effort. Users/IDoNotExist

20100223 14:56:22 nbsp Maybe Polly is http://daviswiki.org/Azure_D%27s/Talk?actiondiff&at_date1266965354.5655601 still using the name? Users/CovertProfessor

20100223 21:52:13 nbsp On the ask the wiki page, you wanted to know what businesses have benefited from the wiki. My practice; Dagon H.C. Jones, DDS has gotten (and continues to get)a lot of new patients from the wiki.  btw we keep track of how people heard about our practice if anyone is interested in how many new patients were referred by the wiki. Users/DagonJones

20100223 23:33:31 nbsp Wasnt there a better page than Wiki Community/Archiving Comments that had instructions on Archiving? I couldnt find it. Users/JasonAller

20100224 11:32:37 nbsp My wording is more a response to Jasons boilerplate that leaves open the possibility of using business account names, even if it discourages their use. I know its coming and it is far, far too weak. Has anyone actually read it, closed their account, and edited under a RealName? Perhaps I havent been paying close enough attention, but I havent seen it.

Im with Don, though, in that I believe that anonymous editing is generally (there are exceptions, like IDNE and CP) far, far worse. I dont even know where to begin to deal with that, however. Users/WilliamLewis

20100224 14:10:56 nbsp http://daviswiki.org/Friendly_Cab?actiondiff&version257&version156 Indeed! Users/CovertProfessor

20100225 15:14:19 nbsp Can you give me a quick lesson on IP assumptions?  If user A is posting from 192.168.1.100, and user B is posting from 192.168.1.200, does the 192.168.1.XXX mean theyre on the same, shared network?  Was looking through some user accounts and noticed theres some linkage in a few people.  Users/EdWins

20100225 15:33:49 nbsp The IP stuff confuses me.  I saw some people go from 68.123.101.3 to 68.124 then the next edit was 68.125, etc.   Or 101.100.20 and 101.100.21, similar stuff but not at the last part.  Users/EdWins

20100225 15:44:22 nbsp You are too quick for me! Users/hankim

20100225 16:16:22 nbsp http://www.youtube.com/watch?vHd6QBnpD2Fc#t2m20s Fastest man alive? Users/hankim

20100225 17:10:56 nbsp I tried watching Smallville and Birds of Prey, did not like either very much. Neither felt very superheroish.  Users/hankim

20100226 14:43:16 nbsp Thanks for the fluoride communist mind control image, that was a cool pic. Users/DagonJones

20100226 14:44:37 nbsp {{{^}}} Yeah, loving that picture. Nice find! Users/EdWins

20100301 07:54:25 nbsp Mmmm tasty dead pig. ) Users/WilliamLewis

20100301 13:25:11 nbsp Thanks for your input. I should have known that there must be a page for peoples vanguard of davis (The peoples vanguard of davis).  It seem to me that a peoples vanguard of davis redirect is missing if someone were to type it in the URL. Users/BruceHansen

20100301 18:19:45 nbsp Hey, thanks so much for the feedback!  Thats a really inspiring way to look at it!  I really like your perspective and positivism and vision, cool to find that embraced by the community here, makes me proud to be a part.  Might have more questions for you as I learn to navigate from that vantage point.   Users/Carl

20100302 08:37:43 nbsp It is odd how quick people jump to either wiki cop or wiki overlord.  There probably is some significance in terms of interactions and encounters  it cant be a mere coincidence that these phrases are jumped to so quickly (or even frequently) by independent, separate editors.  I feel bad for a gnome when I see him try so hard.  Users/EdWins

20100302 13:30:08 nbsp Ha!  And thanks! Users/WesHardaker

20100302 16:25:03 nbsp Thanks for your thoughts, I havent had direct personal experience in publishing yet (though Ive been watching colleagues go through the hoopla) but I absolutely share the concern over the what 24 hour cable news did to journalism effect!  Well put.  Im also holding out hope for any authortitle position on a Cell or Nature paper during my time here <.<  All I need is one good set experiments, right?!  With buckets of luck for funky, replicable, novel results  >.<  Users/EdWins

20100303 10:12:27 nbsp At least their spam is aesthetically pleasing.  Theyre also in NY and LA!  Thats more local than the UK, right?! Users/EdWins

20100304 08:40:15 nbsp I think we should let S delete all of his edits, except where removing them does violence to a page (e.g., by making a hole in the conversation).  Most of them are vandalism/trolling, and the wiki is better off without them. Users/CovertProfessor

20100304 09:46:56 nbsp Well, hes done this before under this name, I know.  I have this faint hope that he really is leaving. Users/CovertProfessor

20100304 16:51:56 nbsp Agreed. Similar stingingeye effect. Users/CovertEngineer

20100306 11:26:21 nbsp Thanks for helping! Hahaha :D I appreciate it a lot... Im a big noob at this x) Users/ERALanke

20100307 12:23:02 nbsp Thanks, You know what Im referring to; most others wont I suppose.  will be more thorough with inconsistent wiki content.  I happened to see Sub Genius here.  I knew Rev. Buck Naked in Dallas, TX. Users/BruceHansen

20100307 21:02:10 nbsp Absolutely true.  In this case, I think Im going to go ahead and post, but, aside from answering questions about my thoughts on it, I think thatll finish up what Ive got to say on the topic.  I started treating it as an argument, which simply isnt necessary. Users/TomGarberson

20100307 21:28:05 nbsp Its done... please dont hate me! Users/TomGarberson

20100307 21:59:31 nbsp Thats a good idea, Ill definitely take a stab at that page in a few weeks... or whenever I remember, anyway. Users/TomGarberson

20100307 23:50:49 nbsp I do remember the discussion, and for a while I wasnt sure it was my place to say anything.  I always worry Im just being protective of my business.  But honestly, there are soooo many good salons in Davis, I cant think what they offer that cant be had here.  As I said though, I dont care if it goes back in. Users/Davidlm

20100308 15:54:51 nbsp No sweat.  :) Users/CovertProfessor

20100308 16:16:12 nbsp did you just respond to your own question? Users/EdWins

20100308 16:18:39 nbsp Ive got a serious case of the giggles right now Users/TomGarberson

20100309 08:23:12 nbsp Hahahaha!  That was awesome! Users/TomGarberson

20100309 10:48:34 nbsp Yeah, probably a good call.  I agree that a ban probably isnt very likely.  Besides, a slap to the back of the head for being a jackass would probably be more appropriate. Users/TomGarberson

20100309 12:11:47 nbsp Before somebody says something, yes, I know it should be replace file. Users/JabberWokky

20100309 16:30:42 nbsp Oh noes!  You beast! Users/TomGarberson

20100309 21:17:15 nbsp I knew that Californias lack of responsibility with its budget and overpowered unions did not help with Californias budget crisis which led to decreased funds for the UC system and the article addresses this, but the article is still too easy on the UC administrators, in my opinion anyway since I also believe that the funds lost were supposed to be for research and this burden should not be placed on students ( http://universityprobe.org/2009/04/budgetliesalettertothepresidentofuc/ ). Users/hankim

20100309 21:38:46 nbsp Basically my only source for the research funds is UniversityProbe.org, but the site seemed somewhat reliable. I guess right now I want an education that is just cheap so I tend to stick with lower student fees at the expense of researchers. Do the rankings also account for private grants as well or just the funds provided by the university?  Users/hankim

20100309 23:58:03 nbsp Heh at that point I was just trying to give sredni a chuckle when he came across it. Users/TomGarberson

20100310 10:54:40 nbsp http://daviswiki.org/Users/JabberWokky?actiondiff&version21396&version11395 This cracked me up! Users/TomGarberson

20100310 10:55:20 nbsp Thanks! Users/TomGarberson

20100310 11:14:17 nbsp I know  I want to figure this out because the ARC supervisor says they drop off a ton every week. The Police station guy said they dont take them, even though there is one or two in the Lost online system. Im just afraid the police station will shut me down and ignore me. But its an interesting question... Users/ChristyMarsden

20100310 13:03:55 nbsp I understand, I think were all frustrated. FWIW, I thought it was funny, but perhaps not in a publicforum kind of way. Users/JoePomidor

20100310 16:44:16 nbsp Guess this means that youre driving for an hour tonight: http://www.pandaexpress.com/locations/locatorresults.aspx?Zip16801 Users/hankim

20100310 17:05:32 nbsp That fractured my bifocals! Users/DonShor

20100310 17:17:43 nbsp If anything is going to push me off the reservation tonight, its not going to be the f$¢k!νγ comment bar, but rather all this stupid talk about the protests. When is this nonsense going to settle down to the point where we can have some collaborative editing that isnt going to turn into an unreadable mess? It has just been suggested to me that the unreadable mess spanning four different pages might actually be considered content, even though nobody but the authors will ever want to read the bickering. The delete button on 3/4 of these pages is looking mighty tempting right about now.Users/WilliamLewis

20100310 17:39:55 nbsp Do they not like Chinese food over there or something? Users/hankim

20100310 18:02:19 nbsp Steaming burgers? That has to be like a sin or something. The exact opposite of deep frying Twinkies.  Users/hankim

20100310 18:06:31 nbsp Didnt think anyone would use it? Thats what I excel at  doing the absurdly unexpected.  Uselessly absurd even.  You should see me do science!  Users/EdWins

20100310 21:26:24 nbsp Ive been to Pennsylvania only once... I think. Eight grade East Coast trip. We basically only saw the Amish towns in the area though so none of the interesting things you mentioned.  Users/hankim

20100311 08:48:13 nbsp Whats the point of moving the link out like http://daviswiki.org/Paul_Moller?actiondiff&version215&version114 this? Users/WilliamLewis

20100311 09:25:14 nbsp Gah!  Thanks for the catch.  I was copy/pasting it and forgot to change it.  Meant to ask each whether they had the early releases. Users/TomGarberson

20100311 09:34:02 nbsp If theyre no longer a premium store, according to what Ive been reading on the intertubes, they probably dont have it early.  But well see. Users/TomGarberson

20100311 10:11:15 nbsp I apologize.  I was definitely making light of it, but I meant no disrespect. Users/TomGarberson

20100311 12:27:00 nbsp How did your dental visit go? Users/DagonJones

20100314 05:28:12 nbsp  see youre online by Lilys.  Ive been online for 2 1/2 hours.  Davis Wiki pages take over a minute to resolve. Users/BruceHansen

20100314 11:23:33 nbsp Thanks for the help with the Lilys pages.  I wasnt sure how to handle the banner linking to the new store.  But the reincarnation link was the icing on the cake. Users/CovertProfessor

20100314 12:33:13 nbsp Any idea why the Wiki is running so slow (intermittently) lately?  Its taking me up to a minute to load a single page most of the time today.  Occasionally one will load quickly, but most are 15+ seconds. Users/TomGarberson
  Edit: as soon as I write that, most pages start loading normally.  Although, for some reason, Elizabeths Pet Sitting is still consistently incredibly slow... is there something wonky in the page thats giving it problems, or just a strange coincidence? tg

20100314 12:45:35 nbsp A tale full of sound a fury... Users/IDoNotExist

20100314 13:08:03 nbsp Seems to be OK now.  Ive been having intermittent problems for a couple weeks, though, so /shrug Users/TomGarberson

20100314 13:31:05 nbsp I was having major slowness last night and this morning, but now it seems to be fine. Users/CovertProfessor

20100314 18:15:58 nbsp Hello!  Yes, Macbeth says, Tis a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing!  And IDoNotExist said something along those lines, just leaving out the idiot bit. ;)  Im not a literature snob; I just happen to know a few lines. Users/Myself

20100314 21:08:16 nbsp http://theaggie.org/article/2010/03/12/chpreversesstatementontaseruseatcampusprotest The Aggie has the taser story. Where did the CHP say they used drive stun before that? I only recall seeing the whole aimed but not deployed because of a malfunction thing. Users/WilliamLewis
  I can not recall, but I distinctly remember it.  Quite possibly the SacBee live reporting chat room, which I can not find (and may not be online, which seems stupid).  Using a taser is a term subject to interpretation, as it generally means firing it, which they didnt do.  On the flip side, its highly questionable to say that none was used when one was used in drive stun mode.  I wish we could find the actual press releases or primary statements.  Bleah.  jw

20100314 21:12:23 nbsp Todays paper, front page: Contrary to its earlier accounts, the California Highway Patrol on Friday said an officer used a Taser on March 4 as police attempted to bar student protesters from Interstate 80.
A UC Davis student on the receiving end of that shock says she understands police were within their rights, but questioned why the CHP first said no Tasers were used.  She also said she feels sure other students were shocked with Tasers...
cont. on A11: ...one officer used a Taser to shock a protester with a drive stun: holding the weapon against the protester instead of firing darts and delivering the jolt through wires.
The same officer later tried to use the Taser again, but it malfunctioned, Williford said.

The person shocked was identified as Natalie Nadimi, and the article says she received jolts on the right arm, near her right ear and on her upper chest, she said.  She fell down and had trouble catching her breath.

Ok, gotta go now... hope that helps. Users/CovertProfessor
  Yes.  Have you seen anywhere the original statement that the CHP issued that denied a taser was used?  Im curious as to if the wording was misinterpreted by the press, if it is misleading as written or if it is simply outright incorrect (I want to say deceitful, but with them aware that the press plus a ton of cameras were there watching the whole thing, I cant imagine it could possibly be intentional deceit... if so, its not only deceit, but a case of horrifying stupidity, too).  On the other hand, a quick polling of involved officers with one person saying I tried to use my taser, but it malfunctioned could reasonably lead to an official statement that none was used.  Fuzzy and uncertain second hand reports with no primary statements available to the public and some of the news quickly vanishing into the ether as live reports close and articles are rewritten as events occurred.  I thought this whole internet thing would make things better.  ;)  jw
   Heres more of the article:  CHP Officer Marvin Williford said reporters were incorrectly told no Tasers were used because while the use of the Taser was recorded on the official report of the incident, it wasnt brought to the attention of the officers who deal with the media until later.
  CHP issued the news release Friday after the campus student newspaper, the California Aggie, and AggieTV produced photographs and video showing Nadimi being shocked. 

20100315 09:15:45 nbsp I noticed that the poles were gone on Friday night but did not think much of it because I figured they were removed for an event during the weekend. According to one of the edits, I guess my initial guess was correct. Users/hankim

20100315 13:18:09 nbsp Swords could be considered selfdefense if people were allowed to carry around caneswords and such. Users/hankim

20100316 08:16:11 nbsp Thanks JW.  Id like to thank all my little inanimate friends in Davis. Users/jefftolentino

20100316 08:25:31 nbsp http://daviswiki.org/Inanimate_Objects_with_Amusing_Faces?actiondiff&at_date1268722574.98877 Much obliged. Users/CovertProfessor

20100317 19:06:16 nbsp its new england style, (cream based) it is really quite good there, they use a nice herb blend. Users/DagonJones

20100318 08:13:51 nbsp http://daviswiki.org/Dental_Fraud?actiondiff&version25&version14 This. Users/CovertProfessor

20100318 10:07:03 nbsp Dont worry, you dont have to do anything today, email me at dagonjones at gmail dot com when you get your treatment plan.  if the dentist takes digital xrays, have them emailed to you then forward them to me.  I will give you my opinion based on what I can see from the films, of course it will be limited because there is often decay that can be seen visually but not on xrays.  also if you can tell me the type of fills that are recommended, they should look like #3 MO  or O or MOD  etc.  I would not worry too much about the bad reviews, even great dentists get some of those. Users/DagonJones

20100318 15:17:53 nbsp Glad to hear you had a clean checkup.  And thank you for your nice comments to the Dagon H.C. Jones, DDS page.  The basal cell exam he is talking about involves using a light reactive dye that binds more favorably to rapidly dividing cells (esp. cancer cells)  it is a good tool, $25 sounds like a pretty good price, I agree with you on a cost benefit basis I would go for it. It is called http://www.vizilite.com/default.asp ViziLight  Definitely get all the cleaning they recommend, if it has been 12 years there is likely some very tough tartar on your teeth that may take a few appointments to get it all off. Users/DagonJones

20100318 15:29:16 nbsp Ah, thats great news!  Youre lucky to have so few problems after having not gone to the dentist for awhile.  My perfectionist recommended some very extensive procedures... he had only started to implement his plan when I came to my senses and found myself a new dentist. Users/CovertProfessor

20100319 09:08:15 nbsp Oh, alright.  Either way... we just need one.  I can slap the text version onto the /menu page. Users/TomGarberson

20100319 20:59:50 nbsp Fair enough; I see now how the sentence could be interpreted as referring only to the demographics of the year 1850.  However, the formerly still begs the question of what happened to the indigenous Patwin population.  Hence, this omission is what led to my confusion.  I think there needs to be some mention of the severe population decline and subsequent relocation of survivors to Mission Solano. Users/ScottMeehleib

20100319 21:11:35 nbsp Im curious why you took the note off of TheWardrobe user page... do you think they got the message?? Users/CovertProfessor

20100319 21:28:13 nbsp Well, I thought we ought to give your original idea  the blanked page with just the comment on it  time to work.  That always seems to get attention, so I wasnt sure why you abandoned it so quickly. Users/CovertProfessor

20100319 21:51:07 nbsp  New England. I just had a bowl today actually. Twas delicious. Users/ARWENNHOLD

20100319 22:46:48 nbsp Well, until there is a technical solution to better get peoples attention, we could soften messages left on blank pages... something like weve been trying to get your attention, but cant seem to manage it, so weve temporarily blanked this page... please read the message on your user page. Users/CovertProfessor

20100319 23:07:17 nbsp I like it! Users/CovertProfessor

20100320 00:18:19 nbsp Thanks! Users/ScottMeehleib

20100320 08:28:19 nbsp I dont think that a page about Davis should have its People heading link go to People: a simple list of people using the wiki.   Looks like I made a mistake on Davis At A Glance>History>Town History Users/BruceHansen

20100320 09:34:58 nbsp I thought you might amend your last comment if you saw my edit of my last comment. Users/BruceHansen



20100914 15:52:55 nbsp FYI Im former Rocky cast from out here in Rochester NY. If you ever want to visit, youd be welcome but a hotel would need to be used. Were short on space Users/PeterBoulay

20100914 16:02:21 nbsp Hey... Good to see the page back up as it should be. Glad to finally have you fully back.  Yes, I need to fully preview to stop the microedits I have been doing. Thanks for the subtle hint for me (and for a lot of others too). Users/WesP

20100914 16:04:42 nbsp Retired Rocky crew but Rocky crew nonetheless. Friday nights I work til midnight or later so I cant do that anymore. Saturdays is wifeytime.:) Users/PeterBoulay

20100915 17:55:21 nbsp actually good sir its back end bank terminology to buy bills from one till to another Users/StevenDaubert

20100915 20:37:57 nbsp Nice personal page, Jabb...wow....im too lazy to do something like that. Users/PeterBoulay

20100916 12:41:18 nbsp Sure tell me how to make the BufWiki adjustments and Ill do it sometime this weekendIm off friday. Users/PeterBoulay

20100917 18:23:17 nbsp You were going to send me those directions, Jabb? Users/PeterBoulay

20100920 13:26:45 nbsp I didnt know that  thanks for the clarification. Users/CovertProfessor

20100920 16:59:14 nbsp JabbsIm not a coder. Would it be better if I just gave you Admin access to BufWiki for 24 hours when you know you can make the changes? Users/PeterBoulay

20100921 04:47:03 nbsp Couldnt resist sharing this with you.  http://www.kongregate.com/games/smartcode/jabberwockytheshepherdofslimes Users/WesP

20100921 09:53:40 nbsp Thats one of the reasons I went with wesone72 for years... too many other Wes out there. Users/WesP

20100921 16:58:48 nbsp Hi Evan... I was just wondering what is intended by the Proposal for a Radical Change section of your page is for? Users/WesP

20100921 19:38:53 nbsp Jabblets keep the blue in BufWiki. Thx Users/PeterBoulay

20100921 19:51:55 nbsp oh.. heh heh.. sorry about that. Yes, I was involved in that until it got so bad it was obvious it was better to just back off and let the other guy bury himself. Funny now, looking back on the debacle. Users/WesP

20100921 20:41:07 nbsp I saw and was perfectly okay with the edit. I thought about linking the articles again, but I figured it has been linked enough already in comments themselves and in an addendum to them.  So, no harm no foul.  I am done with this page for the night though.. growing tired of it at the moment. Users/WesP

20100924 16:02:35 nbsp So what day do you want to do the install???  It appears Bradmandell has vanished into the ether so Im handling all admin duties on BuffWiki from here on Users/PeterBoulay

20100927 18:52:53 nbsp Good featured page!  Thats definitely something to highlight (more so than this Greatest Bicycle Parade, which has just gotten downright silly IMO). Users/CovertProfessor

20100928 13:37:52 nbsp Unfortunately missed those.  I dont have much time to maintain wikispot.org support requests right now.  Setting things up so other people can do this, though.. Users/PhilipNeustrom

20100928 16:30:05 nbsp Thanks.  Theres no hurry. Users/Mateo

20100929 11:06:46 nbsp Just have to hope theyre not out.  I think I may head on down there shortly to try and beat the lunch rush :) Users/TomGarberson

20100929 15:08:33 nbsp Hahaha... no, actually, it doesnt.  Every couple of weeks I do get calls or emails from business owners who dont like edits Ive made on their pages, though. Users/TomGarberson

20100929 16:37:47 nbsp I totally understand.  Im in the process of moving across the country as well. Users/Mateo

20100930 12:54:13 nbsp JabbsThanksI appreciate the offer but its ok. Some of the Buffalo studentswhen I posted that they needed to credit their picsjust wiped out my request and continued on their merry way. Thats not just being newbiethats just plain being rude. I found out which dept theyre in at UB and have sent a complaint to the Dept Chair to ask the professor to be more cognizant of what the students are doing. Users/PeterBoulay

20101001 04:10:03 nbsp I saw your note on the wikispot.org abuse page.  Does the DB access help?  If youre overwhelmed then we should post a note asking for help. Users/PhilipNeustrom

20101001 14:15:02 nbsp Theres a very specific reason I changed that line. At the risk of me pissing more people off, it does relate to legalities and general public safety. Id be more than happy to discuss it privately with you, but please respect my changes on that page. Theres a reason why the state has granted me permission to do what I do with firearms. Let me spread my knowledge out, however discrete it may be. Users/RickJames

20101001 14:28:45 nbsp Oh.  The thing said it was reverted back to what it was before and as I saw it, which was to answer NO to everything.  It doesnt look good if you say that, especially since advice on answering those questions is banned from gun stores.  I dont think we want to be promoting gun ownership to people who cant answer for themselves on whether or not they are felons or mentally handicapped.  Thats what happened at that Virgina college.  The kid was lead on what to answer on the DROS forms, which then gave him access to a firearm.  If he had answered on his own, he may have answered truthfully and been forever denied a handgun.  I look at the edit as a safety issue. Users/RickJames

20101001 14:34:27 nbsp I agree with Rick James, bitch!  I mean, Evan.  While saying, answer NO on everything or youre screwed or dont bother doesnt actually tell anyone to lie on forms, it does sort of encourage it.  Public safety, keeping guns out of the hands of dangerous types, whatever the reason, I think its better to avoid suggesting that if you want a gun, you should answer NO to all of the questions. Users/TomGarberson
  I thought the store has to submit a background check request to the police who make sure the person is not lying on the form, so lying would not do any good anyway... Users/hankim

20101001 14:52:56 nbsp The problem is that people will read it as a way to cheat the system.  Theyll see it as if I answer all No, then Ill get a gun! rather than I can answer all No, therefore I can get a gun.  Its a subtle difference that speaks a lot. Users/RickJames

20101001 14:57:06 nbsp I read it a bit differently.  The actual text: Make sure to answer NO to the Yes/No questions (e.g. Have you ever been judged mentally incompetent? NO... Have you ever been convicted of a felony? NO...) Unless of course the answer is Yes. If it is, just leave. You cant buy a gun.  Maybe Im just cynical, but to me, it reads as first instructing you to fill it out in the negative, and second, explaining why the answer should be negative.  Theres a nod there to the idea that you should tell the truth, but it comes across as secondary to the main instruction (answer No).  Again, though, thats just my interpretation.  If it remains in its prior form, I think it should at least be accompanied with a warning that lying on the form is a felony. Users/TomGarberson

20101001 15:05:08 nbsp srjl2@aol.com Users/RickJames

20101003 15:46:00 nbsp Ahh, yeah, that makes sense. Users/TomGarberson

20101004 20:06:28 nbsp http://daviswiki.org/Michael_P._Goodman%2C_M.D.?actiondiff&version27&version16 Agreed. Users/CovertProfessor

20101008 15:28:16 nbsp FYI since we discussed Bufwiki previously, I thought Id update you on things. Bradmandell had posted on (http://rocwiki.org/Users/DamianKumor RocWiki) that hes no longer working on BufWiki despite still having privs. On his Wikispot page (http://wikispot.org/Users/BradMandell) (where he requested ppl post), I told him I still want to work with him and then deleted my post. Based on this, I am assuming that I am now the only admin on BufWiki. Users/PeterBoulay

20101011 08:42:25 nbsp Its one of those South Park jokes that seems more disgusting than funny. I wish theyd cut that stuff out... I watch in spite of such jokes. Users/WilliamLewis

20101011 12:49:59 nbsp Do you know how to create an edit link on the fornt page at http://southlaketahoe.wikispot.org/
Even when the page shows clearly that I am logged in I never see an edit link. I have been able to make internal pages on this wiki, but cannot make the necessary links from the front page to the internal pages. Users/BruceThomas

20101011 15:43:42 nbsp Ah, I thought he meant email address.  But your answer is better. Users/CovertProfessor

20101011 18:34:12 nbsp I see...  I just looked for the offensive South Park joke to see if it was deleted, which it was again.. did not see the other edits that were made. I reverted it to include the comment. As for the manager comments... I agree they should probably be removed. Users/WesP

20101012 12:10:09 nbsp Good idea?  Not sure, I guess... I like the idea of having a compilation somewhere of people and businesses that helped shape Davis in its early days, though.  Plus, we have a lot of orphaned pages for historical people places that dont really fit anywhere else.  If they just get dumped into People or Departed Businesses, theyll essentially just disappear.  Im certainly open to other ideas.  This just seemed like a good way to compile some of that stuff, tie it into town history, and solve the whole orphaning thing. Users/TomGarberson
 I started a talk page for it to get ideas: HistoricDavis/Talk tg

20101012 12:52:32 nbsp Very good point re: photo requests.  My thought with this was more of a compilation, rather than a request for action, though.  Just crosslinking with town history (or a subpage) might be an alternative, making a list or set of lists manually.  Its twice as many edits, though, and Im not sure the result would be very different.  I also think it would be a shame to leave those pages floating in a relatively unconnected manner.  If we had more information on birth/death dates and dates of establishment/closure, putting them directly into the Davis Timeline would be really cool.  Based on what weve got, though, thats not really practical. Users/TomGarberson

20101012 13:42:47 nbsp Re: unknown set of years and narrowing things to a decade or individual year: that would probably work for getting the links in one place.  Itd be a beast to get it organized and make it look remotely decent, though.  In most cases, Jason included a year during which the people/places were extant, but existed during is a pretty difficult standard to work with on a timeline.  If topics were extant during more than one decade, do they appear in the unknown page for all relevant decades?  How do we sort date ranges if we know Item A was extant during 19141917, Item B was extant during 19131921, and Item C was extant during 19141920, but not whether any of them existed before or after that date?  It seems like you either come down to individual date headers for each item, or no headings, with a listing of items individually, much like an include list.

It seems to me that for uncertainties like that, it would be much easier to have an early Davis category or set of categories, by whatever name, to collect interesting people and places from Daviss early days.  If the terminology is too amorphous, it would be easy enough to set a somewhat arbitrary cutoff for the sake of simplicity.  1917, when City of Davis was incorporated; 1933, when population exploded in town due to the institution of a 4year degree program at University Farm; 1941, with the start of WWII.  Whatever. Users/TomGarberson

20101012 14:18:21 nbsp Ive only done a few orphaned pages so far.  I havent around for other stuff (or even finished the orphaned list). Users/TomGarberson

20101013 11:55:35 nbsp Personal, working (in flux) thoughts:

  Pink: Permanent Notice that is part of content.  Establishes the context before you read the rest of the page.
  Yellow: Major content notice (editor info that affects the whole entry) OR review toppers (HIPAA, etc., because pink would visually dominate too much)
  Yellow/Blue: Minor content notice (typically inline, or referring to one aspect of the entry, a discussion thread, two suspicious comments, etc) Users/JabberWokky

20101013 13:01:42 nbsp Since youre going gangbusters on cleaning up the includes, I thought I might mention one possible sort of include that crops up from time to time when a business has not quite closed, but has changed form enough to warrant a new page.  The business owner understandably gets upset if there is a departed business banner, or even the no longer exists banner.  So, what weve done (I think youve done some of these, too) is to create an ad hoc banner, such as the one that is on Angies Beauty Salon or Monticello Bistro (to name two Ive done recently).  What is key about these, I think, is that they link to the new business.  That makes it hard to create a generic include for such cases.  Can you think of a neater way to handle this, or do we just continue to make the ad hoc ones when we need to? Users/CovertProfessor
  How about an include with a moving van picture that explains that the business has either moved or changed its name and we can keep it general by keeping the details of the move or rename in the main body and then have the include tell the reader to scroll down? Users/hankim

20101013 13:15:45 nbsp That sounds promising. Users/CovertProfessor

20101013 15:44:12 nbsp I will resize it when I have some free time Users/DagonJones

20101013 16:24:05 nbsp Aw... http://daviswiki.org/NoLongerExists?actiondiff&version214&version113 how sweet. Users/hankim
  Heh.  I do try to edit cooperatively, and that means if two people are voting for the dodo, Ill go with the dodo. jw

20101013 17:07:10 nbsp Yay!!  Thank you!! Users/CovertProfessor

20101013 17:08:47 nbsp I like the new pics for the includes.  A lot.  It might even be love... Im just so confused!  As for the parrot vs. dodo, I like (love?  gah!) both. Users/TomGarberson

20101013 17:45:07 nbsp The more birds on the wiki, the better. If it were a Carolina parakeet, it would be even more appropriate! Users/WilliamLewis

20101014 08:28:02 nbsp If I can resize the dodo, and make the background pink and all that then I think it would look good but as it stands the parrot looks much nicer.  I had to look up its metabolic processes are known only to historians to figure out what the reference was.  Clearly I need to brush up on my Monty Python. Users/DagonJones

20101018 14:38:24 nbsp Hahahahaha! Users/TomGarberson

20101018 17:26:50 nbsp Doing it by date.... Users/PeterBoulay

20101018 19:59:33 nbsp Sorry Jabbs...meant to leave it on the Users page. Thx for catching that Users/PeterBoulay

20101018 20:13:47 nbsp Please call my cell: (530)3043698. Im tired of people giving out wrong information. I am not the manager by a long shot. I merely work in the office now because Ive been a happy tenant for several years now and I wanted very much to get more involved with the complex. Users/RickJames

20101018 20:37:29 nbsp Jabbsthis issue with Allegre and Users/Reneng needs to stop. Hes monopolizing the wiki for his own purposes. This public eye thing is not appropriate..in other cases Id probably agree but he needs to call the office or email them and settle itperiod. Users/PeterBoulay
  Thank you for understanding! :)  Richard (Allegre)
  I dont disagree.  How are you planning to foster a positive resolution?  Demands seldom work well within a community of equals.  jw
  See the new discussion you opened for further comments. PeteB

20101018 21:00:00 nbsp (sorry putting this here now and going home to bed) My recommendation to deal with this in a positive manner is rather clear...simply dont allow the war to continue here. Its not productive for either side and the needed appropriate info is simply not being communicated in this medium. Reneng really needs to call the office and speak to them directly about the issue.  Users/PeterBoulay
  Yup. As I said, I dont disagree with that. jw

20101018 21:52:02 nbsp Yeah, I figured that out reading back over todays edits on the page.  Thanks for clarifying. Users/TomGarberson

20101019 12:57:02 nbsp JWstrongly recommend locking the  page to avoid his persistent habit of making legal threatsits not good for the Wiki. Users/PeterBoulay
 In a general sense, I agree.  We dont want legal threats on the wiki, but in my mind, thats mostly because of the deterrent effect thatll have on users.  In this particular case, that isnt an issue.  Im extremely curious to see how far hell take this. Users/TomGarberson
 Davis is full of  interesting  people.  Pretty much every community is.  Just let it go.  Theres no real damage being done to the wiki  just a couple oddball comments on user profiles  and Tom doesnt seem to mind.  If he does, hes perfectly capable of knowing how to voice his concern.  The Front Page is the wiki, not Recent Changes.  Although... Tom, please dont push it to the point where it becomes an actual issue.  Even if it is making you curious.  Escalation is a bad thing, mkay?  Users/JabberWokky Evan JabberWokky Edwards

   Not true JW...I have received a couple emails over the past few hours from people asking why this is being allowed to continuepeople from Davis. Users/PeterBoulay


20101019 13:11:59 nbsp I agree with Peter Boulay, and in this unusual case would consider removing some of the comments. Users/DonShor

20101019 13:21:56 nbsp Requesting immediate and full restoration of the comments on the  page and locking of it to preserve the info there in (in an unburied state) that he may use against TG (or any of us). Users/PeterBoulay

20101019 13:32:25 nbsp In light of the latest comment, Im not really sure what to think.  As long as logs of this whole thing remain available, in the event he actually does file something, I will defer to whatever you think is the best way to deal with this. Users/TomGarberson

20101019 13:40:22 nbsp JWI appreciate your really quiet state but please restore the comments hes removed. Thank You Users/PeterBoulay

20101019 14:50:06 nbsp haha thanks, its been fun so far, I never knew Poland was so cheap. Users/JoePomidor

20101019 20:41:50 nbsp Are choppers banned, or just certain types of exhaust systems?  I believe theres been a ban on straight pipes for some time now, for example. Users/TomGarberson

20101019 22:23:44 nbsp Hahahaha!  I love all the creative new ideas for addressing leaf issues.  We should see about getting some ballot measures started.  Hurry back to Davis! Users/TomGarberson

20101019 22:25:34 nbsp I like where this is going. Users/hankim

20101020 11:59:01 nbsp I think banning non delivery cars in the downtown is a great idea. I proposed it once while taking environmental science merit badge in Boy Scouts, but the idea never went anywhere. Users/NickSchmalenberger
   God forbid you get an elderly person or one with a disability who needs a car to get around. This would make Davis nonliveable for them. Users/PeterBoulay
    Campus has made it work pretty well and is a much larger area (I think) than downtown.  Thered need to be more/better parking around downtown, and probably a new bus depot with additional routes connecting it with surrounding areas.  If you have a system for bringing in delivery vehicles, you can easily adapt it for handicapped access as well, I would think. Users/TomGarberson

20101020 15:13:18 nbsp Thanks for making the featured page pictures pretty! Users/PhilipNeustrom

20101020 16:15:18 nbsp Stats are broken? Everytime Ive checked them they seem to be accurate Users/PeterBoulay

20101020 16:54:57 nbsp Jeezus yer being picky on my review setups, man... Users/PeterBoulay

20101020 18:08:38 nbsp JWwhen do you think you can fix the scheme on BufWiki??? Id like to put that issue to bed. Thx Users/PeterBoulay

20101020 18:16:22 nbsp Ok Ill add you as a admin now....and will remove it friday by 3:30pm EST Users/PeterBoulay

20101020 20:42:15 nbsp Wow.  That is an amazing page!!   Users/CovertProfessor

20101020 21:49:10 nbsp Hey, all of the stuff you did was spot on. Im getting better but Im still a little new, so your helps appreciated. Thanks! Users/AndrewWaag

20101021 13:24:15 nbsp It was just more along the lines of me making sure its safe to do.  If anybody had objections or reasons against it, I figure the more seasoned editors might be able to shed that light.  Thanks!  Richard (Allegre) Users/AllegreApartments

20101022 09:55:44 nbsp Thanks!  The only one you missed that Ive noticed amounts to WTF, seriously? Users/TomGarberson

20101022 10:07:37 nbsp JWyou said youd get to Buffalo yesterday???? Im sorry but I need to have an idea when youll get that done please. Users/PeterBoulay

20101022 11:57:53 nbsp Thx Jabs..I blew out my back and at home today so not around much Users/PeterBoulay

20101023 11:48:29 nbsp Thx for the workIve deadmined you. Im back at workphenomenally sore backbut at least I can drive again Users/PeterBoulay

20101026 15:45:06 nbsp JWI would suggest banning anonpincher would be reasonable at this point Users/PeterBoulay
  Most likely the user will leave without a banning as long as we keep her name off of the Wiki. Users/hankim

20101026 16:21:37 nbsp Thank you, I really appreciate your help.  Also, I see what you mean about the real name issue.   Users/GroundZero

20101026 17:12:24 nbsp Opinions should not factor into whether or not honest reviews should be made. Your opinion about my communication style and demeanor should have no bearing on my honest assessment of Adobe at Evergreen.  Users/anonpincher

 Thanks Evan for being so generous with your time and speaking with me on the phone to introduce me to the basics. It was very helpful and will undoubtedly provide for better contributions in the future if any at all.  Users/anonpincher

20101026 18:52:06 nbsp Thanks for the comment. :) Users/DukeMcAdow

20110321 12:43:27 nbsp Well, if its a symptom or contributing part of the problem, it can become a part of the solution IMO.  Users/DonShor

20110321 12:53:51 nbsp ♥♥♥

why did you BL your page? Users/StevenDaubert

20110321 13:04:05 nbsp I disagree with the scorched earth decision on Village Cab/Talk. There was (aside from the arguments) a lot of valid discussion. IMHO It shouldve just been left to diemore so for posterity. Users/PeterBoulay

20110321 13:23:55 nbsp why cant the creator of a page take it down? The business name is mine. Users/DavidPlacencia

20110321 13:43:51 nbsp your comment is appreciated, however destruction was most definitely not my motivation, and your editorial might is severely frightening. this strange exercise of omnipotence is surreal.
what will the community decide if she never calls or responds? Users/DavidPlacencia

20110321 18:22:49 nbsp Please see the Wiki Community/Accusations/Talk page. Users/WesP

20110321 21:44:17 nbsp This is a reason I made the proposal/discussion page to begin with. I know for a fact there are more intelligent people out there (not an admission of being a cybermoron) who might be able to come up with better ideas.  I love the DavisWiki (insert obvious statement) but am tired, as many are, of the constant degradation of valid discussion turning into cyberbattles over opinion.   I know we can find a way to work together. After all, we all worked together to get the Wiki this far. Users/WesP

20110321 21:52:19 nbsp I tend to agree with the poll vs. votes aspect. A time constraint is also somewhat important as it doesnt take much to mar a reputation. On the flipside though, if the accusation were to be validated, we would want it to be made public as quickly as possible to allow people to make a genuinely informed decision as well. Users/WesP

20110321 22:05:30 nbsp It is my opinion (and only this for better or worse) that our little experiment only proves the point that we need to find a solution to the problem as a community.  One individual making the choice (by making an accusation or deleting a page/comment/partial comment) has too much power. Two individuals would only occasionally find neutral territory to decide. Three would often be decided upon by who the third tends to agree with most often. It has to be the community as a whole, with some type of time constraint. Users/WesP

20110321 22:27:03 nbsp Love the alterations to the Wiki Community/Accusations page. Users/WesP

20110321 22:33:14 nbsp After looking at recent changes every couple of hours tonight, I really hope the new wiki software has a means of tracking edits by multiple editors across multiple pages.  There seem to be interlocked conversations taking place on about 10 or 12 different pages tonight. Users/TomGarberson

20110322 00:12:52 nbsp No problem  Im all for free speech of course, but the hostility in his previous comments toward other users is downright scary, figured he could use a reminder. Users/MeggoWaffle

20110323 08:49:03 nbsp Hahaha, wow, I love the talk pages! Let the party never end! Users/NickSchmalenberger

20110323 09:32:02 nbsp Thanks Jabberwokky.  It was nice to see your comment this morning.  I really cant figure out why shes so upset.  I offered her her money back, but she said no... Users/Davidlm

20110323 10:22:43 nbsp Haha Will showed me that hack.  Black font on most colors looks awful.  Im a font racist. Users/OliviaY

20110323 12:32:13 nbsp Im tempted myself, but honestly I just dont want to see anymore cab pages for a while.. lol Users/WesP

20110323 13:21:11 nbsp http://www.zombielandrules.com/zombielandrule2doubletap/ Double Tap! Users/OliviaY

20110323 17:55:32 nbsp Article you linked to was about an oil sanction and I couldnt find an article on Rebecca Black on their site. Users/hankim

20110323 19:18:07 nbsp It was a really interesting article on the song Fridays social commentary about how Americans are addicted to oil because we are constantly kicking in the front seat and sitting in the back seat, and all that gas wasted while we decide which seat to take, but it really did not have anything to do with the Rebecca Black here in Davis. Users/hankim

20110324 10:14:43 nbsp Its gratifying to find another (former) watcher of Better Off Ted. Users/JoePomidor

20110325 11:29:28 nbsp So true.   I dont know ho Jason could do all the deletions and still be a part of other things (read cab dramas). I have been far too active on the Wiki lately, at least more active than before... burnout is an appropriate term for now.

Glad its so nice in Tenn., the weather here has been absolutely dreadful lately.  Take care man, hope you have a great weekend. Users/WesP

20110325 11:55:04 nbsp Hey Jabberwokky, Im sorry about all my clients posting on one time accounts.  Its actually getting kind of embarrassing at this point.  Im going to start encouraging them to do more edits now that they know how!   Users/Davidlm

20110327 06:47:21 nbsp Thanks for your help (and fast, as it is often) with Friendly Cab/Talk.  Thanks to the others too. Users/BruceHansen

20110327 10:57:34 nbsp I dont think its a double standard, its apples and oranges.  Businesses by default are wiki noteworthy, and so I think employees tend to generally be considered extensions or representatives of said company.  As an example, at Monticello it seems Rhonda is clearly the face of the restaurant, as a lot of comments are about her.  This is because of her association with the place.  I dont think the inverse is true, regarding calling out clients.  Mostly because unlike a business employee, a client is a standalone unit.  Simply put, eating dinner at XYZ or watching a movie or whatever isnt in and of itself, noteworthy and wouldnt warrant importance enough to be a wiki page.  Now, clearly there are bound to be exceptions of noteworthiness, and I think thats the real issue here (not a supposed double standard). If someone went buckwild and there was an article about it in the Enterprise or the Aggie...probably people might argue for it being on the wiki.  The real question Im seeing here is what type of source and level of reporting is necessary.  Does it have to be in a newspaper or blog of some level of importance?  Or do secondhand stories which some allege are close to heresay qualify?  Some businesses do have do not serve or dont accept checks from or these people are banned lists.  Would the wiki be ok with them making that information public? I have no idea, but one day those particular issues might pop up.

Im generally fine with people upset at an employee/business (when youre at work, you represent the company) as long as they stay away from the personal attacks. Im not comfortable with the inverse of calling out a random client, in general.  There have been times people have complained about a stylist or restaurant and then theyve been called out by said stylist/waiter in a response to their comment.  But I dont think Ive seen the business throw the first stone, really. And although this word is tossed up way too often on the wiki (libel), this is one of the few times Ive considered whether a party could allege it and not just be completely wrong.  In this case specifically, the stone throw is rather direct and the facebook link is in my eyes obviously only included with malignant intent (justified or not).  Users/EdWins
    I think Joshs intent is only halfmalignant. On one hand I think he wants to punish the girl; on the other hand, I think he legitimately wants to protect other local cab drivers from her by posting her name and likneness.  But it still amounts to hearsay because he didnt experience the incident directly so its a bad precedent to allow. SM

20110327 21:31:38 nbsp You are indeed very ecumenical. When I replied to you, I was referring to the collective voice of the Wiki as it has been expressed on Talk pages over the last few years. What you and I think has often not ended up being the outcome. There have been three discussions in the last couple of weeks that have gone in rather different directions. I have some hope about this, but.... Users/DonShor

20110327 22:12:21 nbsp I am all for main content being edited all the time, but I personally think comments (even though they are despised by most) should be unedited most of the time. I always thought of them as interviews or something with the locals or whatnot regarding a topic on the Wiki. Also, I know integration is always preferred, but I think comments are pretty darn important when it comes to opinionated content that people cannot come to a compromise on. For the primary source being in the history, my only problem with that is that nobody ever really looks at the history unless the user is a regular. Users/hankim

20110328 00:02:33 nbsp I think culling the wiki is usually pretty wrong, removing stuff just because there is apparently too much. Sometimes we need to remove things because they shouldnt be on the wiki in the first place, but I think just removing instead of rearranging is wrong. Yes this is more raw material as you say for other pages than easily readable itself, but being raw material doesnt make it good to delete either. Why not just keep it? Users/NickSchmalenberger

20110328 00:31:12 nbsp Looking at deleting stuff on the wiki in the way of wikipedia, with deletionism vs inclusionism, we have a really useful test which is to ask if it is about Davis or not. I know the insane scope of wikipedia was one reason wikia was started, but Daviswiki already has a pretty limited and useful scope, I dont think it needs to be more limited than it already is. I think that crazy long debates about weird stuff are totally on topic for the wiki and do belong here, its just the way Davis is. Users/NickSchmalenberger
