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I look at the game moves that all these contestants are playing on their road to be the final battle. They're a bachelorette. So let's get into it on the show. We're going to go through our top three good bad and in question mark moves of the episode. I want to start right out with the good when I liked this episode first. I love Jed laughing off the whole situation when he walked in on Hannah and Luke. This shows a couple of things right. So first he acted upset he was very awkward and he walked out of there, but then Hannah got very upset about it. She was very Awkward about the whole thing, which leads us to realize that she does like Jed Jed could have exploded got really upset and angry and that would have just played to his detriment instead. He left causing Hannah to chase him have a very intense in intricate conversation with him where he showed that he could laugh it off. It's not a big deal. He understands there's a lot of guys going after and everything's okay. It really brought them together and it was a big big win for him in my book. Secondly. I'd like to talk about Good old boy pilot Pete every single woman's fantasy or this episode of The Bachelorette. We all love pilot Pete pilot. Pete did a really really great thing over every other guy in this specific episode. He actually talked to Hannah about things that mattered most of the guys conversations. We saw with her tonight. We're about what they should be feeling at this point and maybe what they should talk about pilot Pete really talked about his career and what he wanted. He was actually trying to get real conversation going in questions with Hannah. About who she is who he is that's developing a real connection. That's developing a real relationship. And that's what all the guys should be doing. Good move Pete and finally number three. We're going to go ahead to your boy beast mode Luke going in to Hannah's itm at the very very end after she gave out that final Rose. Now a couple of us the producers we are talking about is this a good move its is a bad move. It's totally a good move. He snuck in extra time to no detriment of anybody else and he really showed Hannah that he cared. He went that extra mile. She's been talking this whole season about being bold making bold moves. He really went for it. And he also did Big damage control this episode because we know he busted out the Big L word in the beginning which is a big big move on episode 2 to say anything about falling in love. He was able to clarify it at the end of the episode say that everything was a hundred percent real and really really really reassure Hannah that his intentions are true. So that is a great great move for your boy. Loot now. Now let's talk about some of the bad bad bad stuff that you never want to do. If you're in a reality-based competition like The Bachelorette, let's start out first and foremost by the way, all of our bad things come from your boy cam first Tyler Garrett, Kevin confronting cam after he interrupts the group date all of them decide to go outside confront cam one-on-one and tell them what they thought of him. This is a terrible move, especially on The Bachelor or Bachelorette. I've seen other podcasts. This as the White Knight syndrome they decided they're really here for Hannah what he did was wrong from a gameplay perspective. How dare you do it. So disrespectful I got news for you guys cam doesn't care what you think about him and you shouldn't care what camping's you should be there completely for Hannah. So you have somebody like Garrett complaining the entire time that he didn't get any one-on-one time with Hannah. So instead of talking to her and getting that one-on-one time. He decides to go outside and confront Camp, bro. What are you Doing stay in there get your time with Hannah forget that this whole cam nonsense ever existed. It's going to show that you're a bigger person just like Jen did when he laughed off the whole situation with Luke moving on. Let's talk about another bad thing Devon giving in when cam interrupts his date. This is a terrible terrible move. If somebody like cam is Gonna Come and interrupt your one-on-one time for some reason all these guys just try to be gracious try to be respectful and just okay. Yes. No, You say no? Okay, you see? No, I'll need five minutes. Come back in 10 minutes. It shows Hannah that you're being bold. You're being brave. You're not just going to lay down you're going to fight for her and you really want to keep having that real conversation going with her. If you're just going to lay over when anybody comes over and takes your time. You deserve to lose your time. And then finally Kevin's handling of Cam interrupting his date first off. He should have said no when Cam said I want to come and grab her that's we learned that already from Devon's response, right but then not only does he let cam take the time he goes with them into this weird threesome date where he becomes an awkward third wheel Hannah pay no attention to him. He's sitting there in the weird heart of roses watching them eat chicken nuggets and then it gets worse. Then he takes the empty bowl of chicken nuggets in The Leftovers off with him. Like he's all of a sudden become the waiter of The Bachelorette Mansion. This is terrible. You look like a peon. You don't look like a brave alpha male. Who's For Hannah, you look like somebody sidekick now and it completely takes away your power and any kind of hope you've gotten the game. Now. Let's move into the question mark moves. I don't really know where these lies. We want you guys to tell us in the comments what exactly you think of all these moves? Let's talk first my Johnson. We love Mike Johnson. First of all, right, he's a definite shooing to be the next Bachelor. We love this guy. He calls Luke a dog now ordinarily I would say this is a terrible game move because he's focusing on Luke. Instead of Hannah. However, he does do this when it's just the guys around and he's trying to stand up a little bit to kind of let him know his place. I understand where he's coming from if Hannah was there and he was trying to focus on Luke instead of her I would say that's definitely bad. But this I think he might have got away with it. What do you guys think next Jed? We all love Jed to man. There's a couple real Front Runners this season, right? So Jed playing guitar and singing again in the talent portion competition of the mr. Wright pageant. Jed is a Shin we know he's amazing guitar player and singer, but he's done this before so I'm worried that if he does this too much, he's gonna come off as a one-note Wonder kind of one-hit-wonder kind of deal and you don't want that you want to show a variety you want to show that you're an interesting person. He is connecting with Hannah and this obviously worked. He one that dates Rose he won the group date Rose, but I'm worried that if he does it too much there's not going to be enough substance. So he's gotta watch out there. And then finally Tyler G's solo date. He was the only one to get a solo. Date this episode and you know the 4x4 off-roading they had a meal but overall. I think the general consensus was that it was real milk toast and they talked more about Colton first of all and how it felt to be on a first solo date and how it felt to be on a one-on-one date rather than actually taking time to get to know each other to have a meaningful conversation and to deepen the connection. So while it obviously wasn't completely bad because he got a rose. I think he wasted a Really good opportunity to get to know her deeper the connection and kind of further himself in the game, but I don't know let us know what you guys think overall really excited episode. I'll repeat what I said in AfterBuzz is after show that I guess it on today all the guys that I like. I think they're doing pretty good moves to further yourself in the game all the guys that I don't really like they're making for really really fun TV and a lot of drama. So I'm about this season overall. I love it. Let us know what you guys think down in the comments. I'm your host Mike feeling. This is the ruthless. Cap will see you next time right here on AfterBuzz TV.
Host Mike Thieling - @MikeThieling - goes on in Sn 15 E 02 of The Bachelorette, where we talk about the Good, The Bad, and The Middle ground of game moves the franchise is making. Need more Discussion? Watch the full Episode 2 After Show The Bachelorette After Show: Which of the men will get the final rose? On THE BACHELORETTE AFTER SHOW we’ll fill you in on everything that happens on and off camera on the hit ABC series. Plus be bringing your favorite cast members our panel. Tune in for reviews, recaps and in-depth discussions of the latest episodes’ group dates, one on one dates, the squabbles and fights AND bonus off-season content like news updates happening in Bachelor nation. ABOUT THE BACHELORETTE: Becca Kufrin believed she had found love with Arie Luyendyk Jr. on "The Bachelor," but when the race car driver changed his mind and broke her heart so he could reunite with runner-up Lauren Burnham, the humble girl next door from Minnesota resolved not to let the heart-wrenching breakup hold her back. When the 27-year-old publicist isn't making a splash at the boutique public relations agency where she works or planning her next overseas trip, she can be found at home hosting dinner parties for her friends. She hopes to find a man who shares her firm set of Midwest values and who is actually ready to commit to her on her terms. 