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I'm Austin and I'm BJ, you're just trying to introduce yourself like differently and every episode right? Is that what's happening? Everyone's confront. I sent you off balance. Hi. Yeah, that's what I thought. So today we're discussing the Dragon Quest Heroes games specifically Dragon Quest Heroes one. And to which owes to the non-existent Dragon Quest Heroes 3. Well, I'm talking about Dragon Quest Heroes Rockets line with that's true. Okay. Oh, yeah, um, but then Kristi rows one and two, you know, they originally came out on the PS4 now they're available on switch. But only in Japan right now. Do you play on North American switches, but they don't have English translation knowing like for some reason they don't even have English subtitles on they're even though the subtitles exist. So, okay. So when we go back and edit this we just need to have like a sad trombone playing the whole time we're talking about right now. We're just like, whoa. So anyway, so let's just jump right in here. The Dragon Quest Heroes games. If you've never played them they are different from the mainline Dragon Quest gains. They basically kind of function through their story. They allow heroes from other Main Line series Dragon Quest games to come. Into this world so you can battle with them and play as the which is a really cool mechanic. It's really, you know, it's an action RPG. It's kind of how I sell it to people a lot of times because to me I know when I was trying to sell it to you even I think I said it was like a you know, it's a more like because you were like, oh, it's like Dynasty Warriors. I don't like Dynasty were yeah. It's a with it being a mousou game or however you pronounce. Ounce it like I'm not big on those. And so when you were saying that it doesn't quite play like a traditional musou game. I was way more interested in getting into it because it's it's not just you know hundreds and thousands of enemies even though they have them it does it does feel more more like a typical action RPG just eat easier enemies instead of just having a few harder enemies. Right, right. Yeah, I think I explained it to you when I was telling you about it all those years ago that it kind of plays almost like more like Kingdom Hearts the Dynasty Warriors where where and you know, I'm part of that. Maybe you get that airship in the first one you get the town in the second one and all of those kind of things. So they're just feels like there's more to do as opposed to like some of the games like what's the Zelda one that came out for switch Hyrule Warriors I roll Warriors, yeah, they kind of did the same thing with that when they brought in characters like the roster was from other Zelda games kind of like the drink and I feel like you know Hyrule Warriors it was like to me it's the same kind of problem. I think you have with Dynasty Warriors is that like I'm bounced off of it pretty quickly because it just it felt way more repetitive. Yeah. That's my big problem with these games is that not that they're not good because they're they're generally very high quality. The games but as a genre I get really bored at the repetition that that typical game Loop for them doesn't have enough Nuance in it for me at least to be able to to sit for hours on end for long periods of time and actually play it. Yeah, and I think that was did you play Hyrule Warriors? I've played a bit of it. It was one of those that I played at a friend's house and then decided not to buy because of it because by the time I finished one level I was like, yeah, I don't I don't don't think I'll ever finish this. Yeah that the same thing happened to me. I played it at some family's house and they it was fun while I was playing it, but I was like, I'm not going to buy this game now having played it. It just was it I could tell that I was going to get really tired of it. And so with that being said, if you have never played, you know, Dragon Quest Heroes one or two, they're very inexpensive. Now, you can buy these like the physical copies on PS4 for like 12 bucks. Most of the time people and their great games. It's well worth $12 and it's well worth like 30 or $40 I think but yeah, but if so, if you don't like Dynasty Warriors type games like that then you know, I would say give it a try because I feel like there's more. Well number one. I feel like with Dragon Quest Heroes is their their story and I felt like Especially the first Dragon Quest Heroes game. I felt like had a pretty decent story. You know, I mean the bad guy is fairly like run-of-the-mill generic the the four original characters that you get because each one has their own little original characters. You can play as as well the original characters, you know, I liked all of them. And the story was cool. I liked the you know, I liked everything generally that happened in one and I guess I guess before we continue with this episode. I should mention Dragon Quest Heroes one was the first Dragon Quest game. I played in beat 2016. Okay. So with that like it was the first one you played in beat wasn't the first one that you had played like just out of any I'm like set hands on did you play any before that or is this the one that first grabbed you Kept it. So so I may be I think I might have mentioned this on and in an earlier episode, but I had a friend who had Dragon Quest 8, he was the next door neighbor and I remember watching him play part of Dragon Quest 8. Okay on there because and the reason I remember this is because for the longest time I thought Dragon Quest 8 Was all about Pirates was like a pirate scheme pirate because he came over to my house. He would his name was Wade, and he came over all the time. He's the guy that got me into RPGs and he came over one day and he had he had Dragon Quest hate and he I now that I've played Dragon Quest 8 on the 3DS. I know exactly what part he was at. It's the part very early in it where you are. I don't even think Jessica is in your Yeah, I think you're about to I think she's a character there, but she's not technically in your party yet. Yeah, and you know, you're trying to get a boat you're like on a port town then you get a bow and you're like attacked by the calamari the giant squid and then you end up in another Port town and so between between the protagonist having like the bandana and kind of sort of pirate clothes and Jessica kind of looks like a pirate girl and yang guess looks kind of Like a tough Viking dude, and so me being a lot younger and only seeing that like hour or so of the game. Yeah. I thought that Dragon Quest 8 was that you were pirates. So that was like the story. I've always for the longest time. I've always really Associated Dragon Quest 8 with row Galaxy because they were both games that came out kind of towards the end of the PS2 and they were both done by level-5 and They feel very similar and but Galaxy your Pirates and space and I thought Dragon Quest 8 was your just Pirates like, you know, in a pirate medieval type world. I am totally understand not necessarily being terribly interested in that because I tend to bounce off of pirate stories very easily like I bounced off of Final Fantasy V the first time whenever Ferris and the the ghost ships and everything were a big part early on I hated it like I hate that part of it. I still hate that part of it. And so it's interesting that that you did the same thing with eight and I've always I see and I like pirate stuff like Wind Waker is my favorite Zelda game. I love I mean, I love boats. So, you know Boat Ocean pirates that kind of stuff. I look like the ghost ship in Legend of Dragoon, which is probably the first RPG I ever beat that's like one of my favorite parts of Legend of Dragoon is the Ghost Ship and everything. I love that and like the in like me no Kuni. And anyway, I just I like that stuff. But so Dragon Quest 8, the thing about drunk restate though is I can't remember if I played it or if I just watched him play it like I remember thinking it was Pirates and I have all these memories there. But like I don't remember because you know, when we were growing up and stuff, it's like sometimes you know, he would just bring a game over and he would play at the whole time. But me and my brother Michael we're just sitting there like watching him for like hours play this game and we're never actually playing it right and so I And so so that was not abnormal, right? I just don't so I really can't say give you a clear yes or no there because I have memories of eight but I don't know if I like technically played it. I mean I definitely didn't own it or anything. And then I also I had one of my younger cousins had nine on the DS Dragon Quest 9 that I watched I didn't own it. I feel like everybody who's like around the age of like 18. Like 20 to play Dragon Quest 9 on the DS like I know so many people who are like a round in that age that seem to play Dragon Quest 9, and I just I really have no memories of it. Yeah. I don't remember it at all. But you and I have talked about that generation of DS games kind of passing Us by and that we're now going back to them. It makes sense that we wouldn't have played it right? I think nine even came out. I think I was even in college by the time it came out there was Just one of those games that you know, totally just like flew under the radar for me. I like I remember one of my cousin's having it. And then I remember the Seth Green commercial that used to play on Comedy Central all the time. Do you remember that? No. Yeah. What isn't it Seth Green? I don't know. I've never seen it. I hold on so I'm gonna google this really quickly because I'm fairly certain Seth Green did a Dragon Quest 9 commercial. Let's say yeah, it's Seth Green. I feel like most people probably seen this already. As 9 I think is like a I think a lot of people have played nine. But anyway, but yeah Seth Green he did this commercial and it was around the time that like I want to say it was right after it's been Family Guy was probably like at the peak of its popularity rib gotten so popular again that like brought it back to Fox and all this stuff is like not long after that. Yeah, Seth Green did this commercial and it used to play. I remember seeing it a lot on Comedy Central when I was watching like The Colbert Report and The Daily Show and stuff. Yeah, yeah Seth Green commercial. So there's a fun fact for you fun Dragon Quest pack with Austin straight for like 2009 or whatever. It was. So the original question though Dragon Quest Heroes one was definitely the first game I'd beat even if it wasn't the first one I played it's the first one I beat and it's the 1 2016 they got me into Dragon Quest. That makes sense. Like I'm glad that it did and I hate that. I actually never played through Heroes one because as I've played more of Heroes 2 like it seems like it's a it seems like it is an objectively better game in terms of systems. But I think that Dragon Quest Heroes one may be more along the kind of game that I want it to be because I don't think that I necessarily want to play this game and invest myself in all of the complex systems. I feel like I want to get more not have the RPG elements of it as much in it like to has I want to be able to go out kill the stuff experience the story see the fun characters and kill these monsters that I love killing and not worry so much about upgrading equipment and crafting and all of that kind of stuff and and drank West one like my thing was very cross winner over here. Oh, sorry. Yeah. Thank you it has It has all that stuff but it's like it's in an Airship and it's all like fairly close together. You just walk between like the same like four or five booths there in like your Airship whereas to has a town and you have to use a little square, you know that you can go to shops, but then there's like other buildings you have to walk into there's like other parts of the map you have to walk over into and just seems like a lot of like more unnecessary running around and I know and to me I much preferred. The Airship but yeah, I totally agree with you there. It's like to has like some nice like they have like the online stuff and just some quality of life. I like upgrades from one. Yeah, but to me Dragon Quest Heroes one is just as this Superior game and maybe it's because it's the game that got me into this series, but I have and I have a lot do have a lot of like fun memories with it. But it's the one that just you know, and I enjoyed to but I think the whole time I was playing it, you know, I kept telling you like yeah. Still think I like one better even though I totally agree with you objectively. I think two is the better game, but for some reason one just I like it better and the the town in two. I just not a huge fan of like I like the gameplay and everything but the town itself. I don't know that that I think I'm spoiled by some other games that there aren't enough in PCS running around that this one feels to open and lifeless where if it were a little more compact. Fact I might like it better and I think I think it might be just you were spoiled from like because I think when you play Dragon Quest Heroes to it was like right after birth in a Blade Chronicles to write pretty close. Yeah. It's when I started it I think maybe and it was like right after you played Xenoblade Chronicles 2 and Dragon Quest 8. So so I think you maybe got spoiled from like the Xenoblade games and Dragon Quest games all have really good towns and really good NPC's I feel like yeah, and I've also Gone back and played at while I've been playing Persona 5 and that will like spoil anybody on who is interested in like socialization and NPCs and stuff feeling alive because it just it's just populated. And so I probably like you said just spoiled. Yeah, and I totally agree with you there. I even had the post that on Dragon Quest austin.com that did last week was about how Dragon Quest has like the best NPCs in any game And how their the Dragon Quest games are the only games that I actually go around and talk to all the NPC's even if I don't have to because they usually have something fun to say or some like kind of like funny thing. You're like a story or something. And so anytime I come to a new town and Dragon Quest games always run around and want to talk to everybody and the Dragon Quest games are like seriously the only games that I play where like, I don't just like because of some RPGs. It's like I just run through because the NPC don't want to say anything. Yeah, and it's like and I could totally see that because in Heroes 2 they have this town but compared to the mainline Dragon Quest games. It does. It feels very empty. It's like there's there's two buildings you can go into there's the shop owners you can talk with and then there's just like a few kind of like MPC models that you've seen other places, but they don't necessarily talk to you and even the ones that talk to you sometimes like up. Sorry. I don't have any quest for you. A will sometime and you just bounce off of is like I don't have anything else to say but I don't have any class. Yeah, good impression, by the way. Yep. That's that's what they sound like. And so which by the way, I think the that's not the question. I can tell what voice you're doing and it's not the quest Giver. It's the online dungeon. Oh, okay it is he who talks like that? But good impression. I totally knew who you were talking about. That's who it is. It's the little girl. I live to beat your plan. Heads. Yeah, isn't that it? No, it's the person next to him that changes your costumes. That's what it is. The person for the dungeon is actually like the is actually a human but it's the person next to him the little Flames that little flame guy. Yeah. Yeah. He's like the copycat playing. Yeah. Yeah. He he change your costume for you and he talks like that and to yeah, so but yeah, I totally agree with you there and I do prefer the Airship for dq1. I also I also I really like the heroes and Dragon Quest Heroes one like the I like the original characters better. Yeah, and heroes one then he rose to and I also like the characters that you get because in Heroes to the characters are fine. You basically get everybody from Dragon Quest for yeah. Hey and then you get you know, Angelo and Jessica from eight you get nobody from five. Which is maybe why I don't like Heroes to as well. I think those are heroes one though right there in Heroes one here is to also gives you a rough and Maribel and I do seven is my least favorite Dragon Quest game. But also I hate Maribel like Maribel is the I don't hate many things and Dragon Quest games, but I hate Maribel. I got a actively hate Maribel can't stand her Maribel is terribly annoying and heroes, too. And I remember asking you at some point like when I started seven and first got Maribel and my party I was like is she is bad and seven all the way through as she is and he rose to and you destroyed me because you said yes. Yeah. She I mean she's a worse and I think that's the thing is that I don't really like many of the characters and seven and so it has a rough and Maribel and heroes to instead of Heroes one has Bianca and neera from five, right and and I love playing Bianca and year and five. I kept them in my main party throughout all of Heroes one. Bianca is like I know I said this last week but Bianca's like my favorite Dragon Quest character and I played us her a ton and heroes because she had she had the bow and so especially when you're farming like kills and like drops and stuff her like, you know her moves with the bow, they're like rain of pain and things like that. Just totally you can just wipe out its so many enemies and I really I really Mr. And he rose to so much that I turned I play this Teresa and he rose to because I couldn't stand the other do lazarul or whether it's awful. I don't remember his name, but I like Teresa so much better and I can't remove the dude out of my party because I decided to go with him because I went with whoever the heroine is in Heroes one and I decided to mix it up because I was kind of going with both of them at that time and I made a mistake because he's terrible and I hate him but I don't want to restart the game. So anyway, I played as Teresa and you okay? Yeah. Yeah, I'm fine. So I played I played is Theresa and I'm Miss Bianca so much that changed my vocation to Thief so that could use a bow. Oh wow used her at and you know, basically played through all of Heroes 2 with a bow because I love doing that Heroes one. And you do Angelo is kind of like the bow user. Yeah, okay, and he rose to you just don't get him until like fairly late in the story. And and you know, I don't like Angelo nearly as much as I liked Bianca. But so with Teresa I just went ahead and got a bow for Heroes to play that so maybe that's why I didn't I like quiroz one better as well as just because I like the characters in it because the characters the two main characters and heroes one. I think their names are like lucious and Aurora, right and he rose to and heroes one and here's two and three San Lazaro. I don't remember in one think I'm going to try to lift it up really quickly. I'm pretty sure it's lucious and Aurora. Yeah. So so and I played as the guy please Lucius and in one and liked it fine because I didn't really like the character Mama for Aurora. I like the character model for Teresa. So I've picked Teresa. Yeah, and she has a great great character model and a lot of times in Dragon Quest games. There's an option to play as female I play as them and I don't know. I think it's one reason is because a lot of times when they do the female models, they just look better like the the yeah, like, you know, just the styles that they use for them. I feel like look more unique than a lot of the guy ones. That was one of the things I liked about Dragon Quest 9. Is that even though you whoever you choose as your main character, you're obviously going to see them the most right? But because you create your own characters you actually go Oh through the character creation you go through the character creation menus and system and process with any of the other characters you create so you you go through the same thing that you do with your main character, you get hair color hair styled male-female all this so I was able to make all of my characters look exactly like I wanted them to and it so I didn't have to worry about like, oh, I'm not going to see the one that I really wish I had chosen. So my entire party was just that's one of these I loved When so much is my entire party was customized to me, which is the same thing, which is the same way with Dragon Quest three where you can yeah, I mean just more it something more elaborate obviously, but yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah and I always try to I usually the other reason I pick female Heroes to is because they don't give you the option very much in Dragon Quest games. So when they come up like in like in for like I play Dragon Quest for as as a lady because I'd play through like Like you know for 5 Dragon Quest games at that point and that was always a dude and I've picked the the lady on for as well. And while we're talking about good character molds though. The the lady on for is the only one that I feel like the female mold is weaker than the male like usually usually the guy doesn't look as cool as the girl the end for I really hate the look of the girl in for like her hair. I don't like her like one-piece swimsuit true. It like I get it. It's like a fantasy game from the 90s. So that's kind of like the thing to wear. I don't know. I just like it just doesn't look very cool. Like I think the guy does look better for for I gotcha. Anyway, so drag Quest Heroes to going back to some good things with your stew is they do let you have the run through the Dungeons and the online features that are there are cool and you can go online and those with friends and you can party up with randos on the internet, too. Yeah, which is which is cool randos on the internet. I like that. I'd be heroes one first, you know, I I bought it just you know soon as it came out and then I played to as soon as it came out, but then some game came out around the same time that I'd like pre-ordered day one and I got distracted. So I actually didn't beat Heroes to until about six months ago may have been 11 that you got distracted by know. I wasn't 11 it was It was either Xenoblade Chronicles 2 or Nino Cooney to because I gave him are you sure because I remember you playing through Heroes to while I was and that was earlier this year. Yeah, it was so that's not what so I bought here us to played it a little bit got distracted. I played it with you so we could do the online features and then didn't beat it again because ninokuni to came out of those. Okay, I got you. Yeah, and so And then I finally got around to playing it and beating it this last time and almost platinum in it almost. Yeah, and so yeah, I tried to platinum both of them. I know in a previous episode we talked about how we love the arbitrary platinum trophy system. Like we're addicted to it even though it doesn't mean really mean anything. I tried to platinum Heroes one and two and they've just got some of those trophies. They're just such major time sinks. They are, you know with Dragon Quest 11 at Platinum debt, but you don't have two hundred percent the game to play. Denim Dragon Quest 11, right I did because once I Platinum to I still wanted to play it because I loved 11 so much and I don't look I don't love heroes one or Heroes to enough as much as 11 to spend another 30 hours basically farming for like two or three drops. Yeah with the random element of it. There's not really any that does not sound fun. And so I got really close especially in with Heroes to there's some hard to kill postgame monsters. We're like you kind of have to grind up some levels to take them down efficiently and then there's Drops, you have to get that are rare drops from these. It's like a monster that only appears one of them appears in one's own. They take like a long time to take down and then there's like the rare drop is this and so it's like I just didn't there are other things I wanted to do with my time is why it basically boiled down to and so I never did that with two with one you have borrowed one from me and then and given it back recently. And so I plan on going back with one and trying to finish up some Some trophies on there, you know because I really liked Heroes one and I want to kind of revisit it. So so my question for you though is because I played both of them after you do the non-story stuff. Like when you're playing in dungeons or playing another things in Heroes 2 so I can go and play as the heroes from the first one. Okay. It's like they all they all show up as characters and they level up like you give them skill points and do all this stuff as you go through the game. You just can't actually select them when you're like trying to play through story stuff. But they still level up with you. I was wondering is it because I have a save file from beating the first one or two you you don't have access to that on your I don't think I have access to that on mine. I haven't seen them at all. If it is then I have not noticed it in any of the character stuff that I have that I've seen at all I felt like it was probably because I had beaten the first one because even one of the characters that you get from Heroes like you don't get until a after you beat the game, right? So I thought maybe so the fact that all of them were there already at the beginning of Heroes 2 made me think it was just because I had a safe file from one already. Yeah, which was really disappointing to me to go back to the whole Bianca thing because I wanted to play with her instantly and then you can't and he rose to you. Can when you're doing like the extra side stuff, but just not in the story which is why I was very glad that you unlock the vocations because to has the patience and the vocation system into isn't as a Whereas it is in like nine or seven, no, not at all. But but in Heroes 2, it's got a pretty nice one. And I liked that you could do the hybrid stuff. Like, you know, you get up the Mage and the priest and then you can you unlock sage and stuff like that. So I like if they had a few of those hybrids in Heroes too. Yeah, it made things interesting. I just didn't necessarily, you know, spend a lot of time on all of those. I keep trying the bow on it, but it's not necessarily my playstyle. I like playing asses are or Desdemona the two original characters and heroes to because they're like great weapon wielders one. That's a great sword and one hasn't giant Axe and I just love them like those are definitely more my playstyle and the Mage to I like actually being the the major Wizard or whatever. It's called because of I like being able to stand back and just blow stuff up with it. It's fun and that's why that's actually why I liked Bianca Nira and the first Is because Bianca she's got the bow so she can stand back Raina pain things like that frizz. Yeah and just you know, take out so many monsters from really far away and neera she has a lot of those moves that are that your time up that the Mage has in Heroes too. Yeah, you know near I could run around doing that. She could also heal my party. So I had I had a Healer and then but near I also had some good like major attacks. And then anytime I needed to you know combat up close. I would just switch back over to the the hero Lucius and Clay is him which is really nice. That's something we haven't mentioned is that you can switch between characters and battle just by pressing like L to you just pop to a different character in the in the queue and just take over so if I guarantee need to heal, I just switch over to torna co and heal myself, which he's the first character you get in Heroes 2 and it was my introduction to him and I love him. He is hilarious. I mean, yeah, I love toward a CO2. I didn't I don't like playing as him before but I love Character and for and I love him. I love him and he rose to as well just because you know, he's a goofy guy. I like him. I love when he says J pers. Yeah. Yeah, especially in Heroes 2 because it's voice acted. So it's like a Jeepers. So so, you know, I really like that kind of stuff. So you said I know at the beginning I said, I mentioned Dragon Quest Heroes Rocket Slime, which I noticed on your notes Here say why does rockets lab so you hadn't heard of it like I've heard of it but I mean like what is it? Like how does it tie in with the Heroes series? Like I haven't looked up like game play or story or anything. I've only ever just seen images of it because it has been just off of my radar that it was with the side games and stuff. I've actually more invested in learning about monster than I have Rocket Slime. Yeah, and that's kind of that's kind of where I've been like I rock it slime. It's on my list. It's for DS rights just for their original DS and it's on my This but I'm kind of the same way. Like I've been like I have the first Monsters Joker game that I wanted to dig into pretty soon. You know, we're going to get the switch version of Builders to and then 11 pretty soon. So now I'm going to be playing those games when they come out. I mean we're getting Builders to and like why about a week and a half couple of weeks from recording this. Yeah by the time people listen to it. It might be this week. So I've just had other games but rocket sign it's listed. It's a Dragon Quest Heroes gate. It's just it's different from the heroes one and two games like we've been talking about so with Rocket Slide, you play as a slime and the this is the part that makes me want to play it is that the protagonist is a slime and you're playing you know with there's like a slime Kingdom and all this other stuff. So you're getting to see like cities with slides which is you know, it's really cool. Especially I thought you would love it because you love her blue slime so much. Oh, yeah. I love them your voice is going out. I think I'm losing my voice as we're talking. Stop this dude. Like yeah, like it's weird. It's like happening in real time. So I try to do most of the talking now, but anyway, so because their slimes are blue slimes, they don't have very good like defense or offense you basically drive around and by tanks and stuff and like cannons and things like that and you're like blasting through enemies taking out hordes of enemies in your little tanks. That sounds pretty cool. It's like Heroes and that you're kind of taking out hordes of enemies and things like that, but it's Very different almost completely different from Heroes one and two like we've been talking about I know Heroes one had had like the subtitle. It was like called the world trees. Whoa and the blight below and then to got a subtitle I guess in Japan and some people started using it before it came out over here just as like the translation, you know, something about like the Twins and the prophecy and all women Kings and the something prophecy maybe yeah anyway, and then But when it actually came over here to the state's like it doesn't have a subtitle on it's just Dragon Quest Heroes to which I thought was weird that they decided to drop it like that, especially since all the rest of them have it. Yeah, which is it. Really Dragon Quest games in general. Yeah. Yeah. So anyway, I just thought that was kind of like an odd thing to bring up right here. So your voice is going out so I don't want to get I don't like keep this going to much longer. I'm sure we can do follow-up episodes on Dragon Quest Heroes. Well, and one thing that I wanted to ask Ask about the heroes one characters is like the original characters because I like cesare and Desdemona. Like I said, yeah, how did the heroes one characters like come the original characters compared to to I like them. I like them much better. Did you like The Originals better as well? I like the original characters for one. Well, I take that back. I really liked Theresa. Like I like Teresa a lot. Maybe maybe better than any of the originals from the first one but if you're going for Like quantity, I guess I like more of the originals from the first one then I like of the like from the second one because the second one, you know Lazzaro. I just I don't like him at all. He was super annoying to me. Yeah, he's the worst and I really like the the king to see original character and heroes one. I cannot think of his name right now. Is it Doric? I know who you mean though. I think it's Dorothy is his name and so Doric He's the king there and then there's also the original character. Her name is Lila. I don't think I got to her. She learned she lives in like a little steampunk look in town in the first one. She's like an engineer so she makes stuff and she has a boomerang is like kind of her weapon of choice. I didn't like I love very much and heroes one. She's kind of the week one for Heroes one for me. Like I like Desdemona fine. I don't really like cesare very much, but I like playing a cesare. I really like his character model. It's kind of one of Things were like my thing with the heroes too. Is that a lot of the personalities of the original characters? I don't like very much but I like playing as them because with Heroes one. I basically just played as characters from other Dragon Quest games. I began I kept my one hero, but then I played as the others and with Heroes to like I played with Teresa and cesare pretty much the whole game. And then I think I've played Heroes to mostly here alive my healer and then Elena as the other fighter. Yeah, okay. Okay, so, you know that's kind of hard to say in terms of I liked more of the original characters and heroes one but the character I like the best is Theresa and heroes too. Okay, and she is awesome. So I get that so your voice sounds so bad. Did you just start like smoking in the middle of the I don't know what happened? It sounds so funny is you sound so hilarious right now this me not doing a voice you guys so it sounds like you smoke but also like sucked on a helium balloon. I'll occasionally lose my voice like this. And it's going to be out by tonight. So we'll have to do some follow-up episode with Heroes later on but I think we hit a lot of her major points today. Feel free, you know, tell us about your favorite Heroes characters or you know, I feel like lazzara we did not so if you did, you know, let us know let us know why we're interested in knowing that kind of stuff. You can talk to us on Twitter at Dragon Quest FM and you can leave us voice messages. 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Support DQFM on Patreon at patreon.com/dragonquestfm In this week’s episode of DQFM, we discuss Dragon Quest Heroes 1 & 2, originally released on the PS4. We discuss the difference in play styles, NPCs, and even towns from the mainline series. (Airship vs Courtyard. We all know which one is cooler, right?) Which Heroes game is better? Austin has fond memories of the first one and thinks it’s the best. B.J. agrees, but thinks DQH2 still has a lot of good things to offer. We also do a character comparison between the two games, discussing the Heroes brought in from mainline DQ games as well as the original Heroes that are created for the DQH games to give them their own flavor. We go off on a few random tangents (of course), where we talk about Dragon Quest VIII, and that Seth Green commercial for Dragon Quest IX from, like, ten years ago? Austin remembers it fondly (or at least he remembers it), but B.J. is completely ignorant of it. We're sure it's on the internet somewhere. We briefly discuss Dragon Quest Heroes: Rocket Slime, but B.J. starts losing his voice. A lot. And fast. In this episode, you can listen to it all in real time. Hear him go from sounding like a normal (as normal as he gets, anyway) person to sounding like a weird, chain-smoking cartoon character. He sounds like a cartoon character pretty often, but this is a whole new level. You have to listen to see this. You'll love it. We are a proud part of the Geek to Geek Media Network. And if you want even more DQ awesomeness from Austin, you can read his weekly blog at DragonQuestAustin.com  ---   This episode is sponsored by  · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. 