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Okay everybody. Thank you guys so much for joining us tonight. This is the challenge War of the Worlds season 2 episode 4 Benedict Laurel. I am Pamela gross, but I'm not here alone. I've got we'll start with you down at the end. We have the founder of fit TV, you know him you love him. He is David. David what's going on guys? How we doing tonight? Good good. Let's do this. Yeah, and the man sitting next to him that you all know and love Gomez Disney Dan. Yes. It's like do we have to change that now to tick tock Dan? What's up guys? Yes, it's true. I'm on Tick-Tock now Idiot Box boys possum and you know him from the Jersey Shore and yeah shot at love shows right here on after. This is the wonderful funny. What's up guys? What's up guys? Thanks again for having me excited. This was a crazy episode. Can't wait to talk about it as you can tell we're live tonight with only cheer. Yeah. We love our wonderful producer in the studio. You guys tonight was incredible. We had some USA on USA action. We're going to go over that we had what I would say is Maybe One of the most fun eliminations in a very long time if not top five ever in challenge history. And today we've got for you some news and gossip and we are going to be taking your calls you get ready if there's something you want to talk about. We will be taking your calls alive tonight. So join the show. Alright everyone. Let's just jump right into overall thoughts. Why don't you take it away? Um, it was a great episode on it. Definitely for me was a little bit of a bummer because I didn't want to see Laurel go. I was rooting for us. I'll kind of bummed me out. Yeah, you know me team bananas but uh, you know, I thought was great. That was a very entertaining it was a challenge was actually it was pretty creative. It's different super close. So yeah, I enjoyed it. Yeah. All right, Laurel. I'm talking to Laurel Laurel. This is what happened when you say my boy Wes home. This is what happens. Why'd you do it? And also in theory I am truly were already talked about this, but Kyle kind of started this all today and you have a soda weird. And I loved it for him for that. That was the first funny thing. He said I'll season and it was like I don't really know if if they're on his team, but they could have been as so funny. It was hilarious really title Puppet Master this whole thing take this episode was also episode 3 was amazing episode four hands down better than episode 3 and clearly there's like a divided because I when it Laurel Wait, you want to Lord? I want it Laura Duane pale. I guess I love your tears. I could care less if Laura went home or staying I don't care how I wanted it cut me deep in could not be happier that she got her lumps tonight. And the way it all panned out. My overall thought is that I don't think are needed to cry about it. But I do think it's really silly that Team USA didn't learn from last season. They should not be turning on themselves at this point. I do not think it's good gameplay and I would expect more from veterans like Johnny then to be doing that at this point. We expect more from Johnny should be nicer or not a jerk, but I'm saying they should have learned from last time not to self sabotage their own team. But yeah, that's early is though Laurel said it perfectly. She heard West saying he had no problem getting rid of other people on his team. So Laurel, she I can't put it against her for a Lying to think of something to save her own but it didn't work out for her unfortunately, but she was playing the game if she just would have stay there and twiddle their thumbs and said, okay, we're all on the same team. Let's do this. She still would have been going home. She is playing a game and her targets are based on an alliance that Kyle made up. So how good of a game is that when we don't we but Kyle did make it up but there's also no cam never was like, oh Oh, I'm not with that team. No one's just straight up said they they never did. You know, we're in a part of that team and and Laurel also heard what you heard from West so she had motive it wasn't just out of nowhere, you know, so she she had a reason to react the way she did and I think that in all fairness that's that's fair. She heard she heard herself everybody else. Everybody has a lion says first of all, Josh is West wanted to take Josh out. I don't know why Laurel took that so personally or what it has to do with Laurel at all. Frankly the Laurel came on. Laurel and Theory went to Josh and said great. I'm gonna write I want to take out west wasn't threatening Laurel. Well, I think what for a lauro it was just west saying he was going to take out other people on the team, but and Laurel isn't and Wes has Alliance. So from my from where I'm standing, I'm thinking Laurel wanted to get rid of Wes and everyone with West so she wouldn't get kicked off I mean Laura. Well, just thought she was Untouchable the bee's knees. She's going around making plans. If you're not with me, you're against me she is so condescending. I think that the word bully gets thrown around too much these days and I'm not into it. But Laurel He's a Bully like that little technicality that she lost. Shoot and would have actually worked out for her had she not miss that one little Peg but you know as she lost yes, but barely what is their point explain to me the strategy of throwing the game. So they lose it was their plan. It wasn't their fault. It was bananas and Laurels plan, but it was really bananas playing bananas plan was he was like, hey, this is I don't agree with it. But he's like if I in theory sent home one girl from our own team. I'll have the People back on my side. I'll have the numbers back on my side which I don't agree with how the hell is that what the word means? Well have the number of people that are in his Alliance. This is my whole point going into this the US team was never together. They all had their own finger from the start Wes my boy Wes, who by the way ran this episode and wasn't even there Wes was his ultimate plan. Let's say he was just the first one to say it out loud his ultimate plan, which was I'll just take out whoever I want on the team. He's the first one to do it everyone already had plans today. Actually, he wasn't saying we'll do anything when we when it turns to the dog-eat-dog time as if we're not winning, but they were winning locator. So panniers designed to throw it Bill. If Wes didn't go home. We'd all be saying. Oh is it bro? Who cares that Wes is saying he's gonna eliminate everybody. No, I disagree. I disagree because he even admitted himself before the show even started. He was trying to form alliances. So there is already an Indian. That's why either way. He's just first one to tell everyone he doesn't care that everyone knows that he's not who the hell really thought his me faithful to UST many ways with bananas and Jordan or II don't know but it's silly. Well, it's this early. It doesn't make sense to me that they would not want to win. I feel like get as many of their strong players out. Guess what USA it whether your strongest you whether your alliance or the other Alliance has to get there to the end. You have to still win to get there. So you want to work as a team. I would never watch. Rely on a conspiracy. But let's just say that all of this is for nothing and that when the finals come around TJ's like hey every man and woman for themselves. So I would not be surprised point is is that does it really matter? Who's if you're on the US or the Brit side right now like TJ could just up and his upside down just switch it up now well to answer your question Dan right now. It does in the end. We'll find the right to get there with your to write the the people on the US team. They they've been on the show enough where they know there's going to be more twists and turns so they like you're probably right. They probably know something is coming up and they probably have a feeling that they are going to get split up. So why not get rid of the strong players now? Well, that's what I'm saying. That's what that was. My thing is like why not like when Josh wanted to get rid or I guess Josh and Laurel and 3 want to get rid of Wes. I hate the move because Wes is a strong player and if you have to go against him at some point in this stupid game, it just seems to me that Turning on themselves this early as Cora said tonight, like why even compete then if we're admittedly its all-out War within our team like yeah. Yeah, but that's just stupid. I think we're giving away too much credit. I'm we I think this was just a ticking Time Bomb. We knew eventually it was going to happen. They're going to implode there's too many Egos and there's too much bad history between all of them. It's dead. We all know this gonna happen how Warfare though if they were going to throw the challenge they should have been a little more subtle about it. That's what's so About Laurel and bananas like oh no they just thought we are Untouchable Laurel thought she was never that didn't even consider. Well that she would be why do you think bananas did it on the girls elimination? But as thought it through moral is so obviously blinded. It's funny. She's believing what Kyle said Morrow for all her talk about whatever is like being puppeteered by Kyle and making moves, you know, based on her crush on bear. It's just All I know is that wouldn't it be fun? If the girls in the US team next week through the challenge so that they could in theory get bananas to go into them into the elevation. They should that be fun. Actually that's not a bad idea everything. He said about them is coming is going to bite him in the butt when they were talking. He's like you guys were going to do this. You're just mad that we have the numbers now. It's like well, you don't now you lost her cheerleader Laura. I don't know I've been is was so like up in arms but everything it's it is so early in the game like Because I've laid back and just play the challenge your fight. He hit was even close to even be on a chopping block. Any where exactly is be quiet been and that's what happens to bananas every single challenge. He always puts himself on The Chopping Block. This was the one challenge where people were not going after him. And so now with yeah with him throwing this challenge, he's like the number one target now. Yeah, that's a good point. Absolutely. And again, why did he do it? Why was he such a loudmouth about it? You nailed it because he wasn't up for elimination this week. Week it was a girl's challenge. He can behind moral. He had her do his dirty work and look what happened. So speaking of that. Is there something you want to tell everybody that's listening to us. Yes, of course, we here at AfterBuzz. Just wanted to thank you guys for making us the ESPN a TV talk and in order for us to grow we need your help. So if you're on YouTube right now, go ahead and give us a thumbs up. If you're on iTunes go ahead and give us a five-star working AfterBuzz means so much to us, and we just want to Continue to learn and grow. So go ahead and leave us a comment and let us know how we're doing and we will continue to give you guys amazing good content. Thank you so much and everybody. We are as we mentioned going to be taking your calls live tonight. So get your pens or your your phones out so you can get the number down. It is 4 2 4 3 5 4 8 3 0 2 we're going to talk a little bit more about the competition. Yeah, and then we'll be taking your calls. So get ready. Yeah, so let's go into this this competition. It's a perfect transition we use so they throw it it's they were lifting up gigantic heads and carrying them up a hill relevant parameter relics. They were very big relics. It's what called actually Relic Runner. Yes. So that was essentially giant heads and dragging them up a hill whilst the other team had slingshots and hoses and then the big human In a ball absolutely. Only bad ball is like your abs, right David David David actually Josh who you know not my favorite had a good strategy in this game though. He was saying I am going to Target their slow. Lowest player so that because this was a timed competition so that if he slowed down or knock the Relic out of their slowest players hands, they would then have more time for Team USA which was actually smart Team USA would have won Laura wouldn't have had to go home. If she wasn't such a I'm gonna say the b word boy and a meanie and she didn't try and steamroll. Everybody boy boy howdy. Okay. What do you all think this first one? I I'm so sorry. It with the with this whole challenge, I don't think they should have thrown the challenge because it's just bad poor sportsmanship. Another thing is Ashley. I feel like Ashley should have try to complete the challenge. I feel like she kind of does this throughout her challenge history where she'll cry about something and she'll say something is not fair and that, you know, this isn't her team. She doesn't want to compete with this team and you know, I'm always rooting for the girls. So it just sucks to see her like give up like that because she is is a very strong competitor. She's won two challenges. She has a chance of winning this third one. So it just sucks to your just give up like that. I agree that she shouldn't have but it's hard to I do feel like how you going to keep going when her own team for once. I am not totally against Ashley's temper tantrum. This one made a little more sense to me than I can't find my socks or some of our other temper tantrums. I would be really pissed too if I found out that I was being sabotaged by my own team. See the thing is if that happened to me and I was on a challenge and I would just use that anger to finish the challenge and win it and then just be like now what yeah, but you can't move. All right. I see your point and I agreed it's a tough spot to be in if your team is legitimately sabotaging you, you know, I mean, I think naturally anybody's gonna be pissed off, you know, and you're gonna it's gonna go through your mind like eff this that's a tough spot. I think you have to be in that situation. Obviously. I'm not one to back a quitter. Yes, I'd say yeah you Finish it out, but I can understand the frustration for sure. I mean you feel betrayed, you know, right? All right, a couple thoughts on this challenge here, you know, we usually say it's an advantage to go second. Yes. I actually think conspiracy for Dan again. It's an advantage to go first in this one because the ground would be dry to start and they were and I was wondering if they were going to use different paths. So they would have Nikolas dryness to start because that hose yeah soaked it down. It's like a fire hose So in theory The Producers like oh we better have the Go first, and that might actually give them a better opportunity to win because they've been wanting them to win. So there's your conspiracy for me and second. There was an equalizer in this challenge. Anybody notice The Equalizer where some of those sure the live chat home some were Giant and somewhere actually smaller really concise. So I assume in theory they could have had the girls carry the smaller ones ya later and wait there for giving out her eyes and give him a better chance to give them the one that feel was holding was taller than Theo and feels like six eight. So that was so I knew that there was different size. Yeah. All right. Well, let's go into let's just go right into the nominations and then the eliminations before we take the call so so that we can have the collars way in and again, thank you guys for joining us get those phones ready and thank you to everyone that's in the live chat you are. It's like you're here with us. We enjoy it. We're seeing your comments now, so thank you for joining us. Okay, so This was this whole episode where I literally was like I like pulling out my hair was so tense. So they decide so the USA team loses. So the Brits are the thing you get the ID and you dress. Yes. Okay, so they watch the USA eliminations. We're all All team bananas and Laurel vote decide to throw in ninja and Ashley has joined them to save herself. Which fair right? What do you guys think of that the decision to throw in a ninja II didn't think anything was wrong with it. I was kind of annoyed with how a ninja was just like crying about it. Someone has to go in you know, and it just happens. So happened to be her. Everyone's gonna have to go into. Well not everyone but people are going to have to go into the elimination. That's the name of the game. Right? So if you want if you want to keep your Player though. I just don't think that that was right decision. I think you could put an Ashley. I think that she would have been a fine choice and it I don't know I just thought ninja I mean like my know she was being a little like cocky tonight, but not that bad. But like she made it to the final four last time, huh? She's only grow. Yeah, and she's the only girl and she's saying well, it's you know, it's my second season is like well ninjas only your second season though. He's right we've been around for eight years and not that so I get that white and she also kind of this case. She doesn't have that many friends right on that side wall, I guess Cam and now what, In someone else's car was hugging her at the end, but they had no issues like yeah, everyone's throwing ninja and yeah, we'll go ninja to all right. I don't know. I just thought it was kind of ninja I get that. She was a little upset by it kind of nowhere. Yeah. I'm yeah, I agree with you Benny. I don't agree how she's too kind of thrown a tantrum tonight. I don't think it was that big of a deal for getting thrown in. Yeah fortunately came back for her, you know, but I don't think it was that big of a deal to be honest. I mean, I think she could have handled that a little more gracefully, right? I think we saw that side of her with About last time when she freaks out. He doesn't like being you know what she perceives as insulted or wronged or whatever. But so then she talks to the tribunal and says, hey go big or go home. Basically, I want to go against Laurel is the boulder move and then we have them go out for the night. And we see Johnny convincing George ought to vote for Cara that car has the way to go. What did you think about the ultimate votes and having Laurel go into the elimination. I would have loved to see Cara going because car escapes elimination after eliminate. I can't be mad at the girl because you know again, that's the name of the game if you can escape going into elimination kudos to you, but it would have been so dope to just see Cara go in and just to see her not necessarily prove herself because she has proven herself, but just to see her in an elimination. Because it's been a while. Yeah. Yeah. No, I agree. I agree with that. I mean, okay. I think what it comes down to is with all this is you're either you might have to fisticuffs. You're either Team USA team Cara Paulie cam. Those people team Wes will call them or team bananas and Laurel and I'm 100% team Cara pole. Cam. Yeah smoke. You know, what are you guys? So of course I'm like what I wouldn't want two of them to go against. What did you what team are you guys on that? Laurel and bananas hands down hands down. These guys are going after me. I need to do something to save my butt sabotaging their team. No one was going after anyone while they were winning. They could have kept that going for a long time, but She went off of what she heard Wes a and so that's what scared. Yeah, dirty dirty player that floral. Yeah, I will never be team bananas. So whatever other teams down and jump on that theory my team already went home because Wes lost last week while we got. Um, yeah, I'm not a huge fan of Cara ever either and Camp to Camp think she's a champion that she's never let you leave cam alone up here. What team is our live chat? I'm curious to know what well, we'll have to start writing in. All right, everyone tell us what then you are talking all kinds of doesn't think Bears even cute. I can't believe it. Simon does not think Bears even cute how dare he show his eyes you can see the ocean and his goddamn eyes. So let us know in the live chat which Team USA team you are four and let's get into this elimination because it is crazy times. Oh take it away Dan. Why don't you start us off with our thoughts our feelings on the elimination? Yeah, it was really fun. Oh is my conspiracy? That was all this crap. I'm so glad you brought this up. I didn't know what my final consideration for the night. Yes, me and Homer going to answer this. So my final conspiracy is that the producers knew ahead of time that Team USA was gonna with that had voted ninja in because ninja had to talk to the the tribunal D and the other two, so they are you so they Picked this elimination for Ninja on purpose because they didn't want to see her go home early bam after was pretty interesting. How was it how I've heard you was that for Ninja to win? No matter who she went. They didn't know was going to be Laura Lee knows we parted no, but they set that up for ninja and that's what ninja in theory does for a living right? Yes, but I will say remember when a ninja last time was like, oh goody goody. This one's for me and it was holding onto tires and getting dragged she fell off right away. Well, I mean sometimes the things that Are made for you and still it's anybody's game. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I had a thought about the final on the elimination tonight. I thought this just couldn't like you couldn't make this stuff up the slow-mo cut they had of Laura look like with her just just wagging around even after she yeah after she thought I can't believe ninja figured that out every part of this was poetry because I was grabbing My hair clutching it dying like oh my God, it was neck-and-neck. It was so crazy. You're thinking ninjas gonna totally smoked this then borrow is right behind her. Then Laurel rings the bell and all this. They're celebrating you see everybody cheering then the time goes by and we just see Ninja sort of still up there going. Oh, there's not a hole up here. Like right one that was missed and she finds the last holes. I don't I mean saw I was confused. Ninja ever find the final hole Yeah. So it was that the bottom and she write this so they did they both people and so Laurel put it in. I mean not luring it just drew it hits our climbed up. Yeah ninja but the top with one laughed and put it in the top Laurel put hers back in the bunch of shitty day. She couldn't because she already had stuck it in the top one right here. She just had to leave his blankie try to climb back and clean but then Laurel Laurel climb up I so to try and beat her but after this to happen right now either to beat her or to at least try to grab her thing grade and climb back like that would be and that's what it is. I just want to know like how I guarantee she was so pissed probably. She probably felt so stupid to you after that because she's talking. Oh all this crap. Well, she slipped everybody off. They had the oh my God for her. I was doing like the Sukkot symbol, of course the producers put that in slow motion amazing. I was like, oh my God, what kind of face of it freaked me out? Oh my God scared me. Well, her pinched condescending face was like you use what you got like she was trying to talk her way out of cheating basically like yeah a real competitor use what they got. Yeah. It's like no. No, no, but you know, they blew the horn. So I mean you can't blame her though. You would think it's over exactly the whole well has she run the bowel, but then they it's in the UK team cheated. I mean, it's crazy just same idea, right? They went back and reviewed it. Just think of ninja wouldn't say anything like Laurel probably would have no one would have known. Hey guys, David people are actually on your side here. Yes. There was a hole just not meant for the yes. Yeah, oh my God, so physical that was crazy though because Laura was running her mouth and it's funny because when she was sort of fighting with Cam in that room Laurel be like scared of you. Yeah, give her come back to look at bananas like Schleich did I do good? She was such bananas little puppet and boy did that fight her don't ever kids. We have PSA music kids. If you're listening don't ever be bananas puppet. You're not gonna help me. Like she got her butt kicked. No, she didn't, you know barely lost. She backed all her talk when my opinion she but if she would've got smoke that's one thing but she barely lost ninja got lucky before we continue one of the ways we keep all these shows for you free is by our amazing sponsors. And today Spotify is one of our sponsors on Spotify. You can listen to all of your favorite artists and podcasts in one place for free. 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She's well, this reminded me of a challenge a couple years ago where when it was was CT against someone else and it was like they had to push this this big pillar and CT rip the flag off and he wasn't supposed to rip it off and he he won but then they said he weren't supposed to rip it off you're supposed to undo it and he ended up losing the same exact thing that happened with Laurel. Let me say let me say this to maybe just defend David and that's right. They in theory if they both missed that same Peg on the bottom, right? Huh in theory who if they if they just kept it equal like that like they both missed the first Peg and they all they both got top of the same time. It's not fair in theory because I know Laurel stuck it inside book. She had no way of because a ninja just was able because she had one left over right? She was able to kind of put it in there and go to the top and fiery Laurel couldn't had no choice but to try to get it and put it back down below. That's all I'm saying there, but I want an instrument so it worked out for me. Yeah, and also I'm gonna cop and I'm not Theory because I miss different Polls it wasn't that they miss the salt just a totally different one like the middle somewhere. Yeah, but when ninja got up there she didn't pretend they're what she doesn't like. I'm done. I agree. It was like wait a second. I can't find a hole. It's all happening so fast, right? It's like wow you that she was sticking Faking It? I still agree that you cheated possibly. I'm glad that ninja one. Yeah, I'm just saying the what would you do if it was your client doesn't have this extra one. What do you have to make it right? Hey just a heads up guys. There has to be one every hole I forget if he said that or not he definitely said that was punished. Definitely 21. It's a horrible then their holes. Yeah, and then the best part is not plural did go back and then she counted them that's 21 knowing that the top one wasn't it though? All right. So everybody it's the moment you've all been waiting for get those phones Out Boy and we are doing will be taking your calls. No spoilers. Yeah, please don't spoil don't spoil stuff for next week. Yeah, no spoilers. We're before the upcoming weeks. Okay. So let's also talk about why I just have one quick comment. That's funny. I love Tori so much. But when Georgia said car's name, there was a little cut away to Tori and she was like, come on don't run away from going and challenges tour of color and it's like well who no one wants to go into the the challenge. I thought that was a strange sort of they're just trying to find spots to throw Tori in these episodes. She's got no story line, especially because her and Jordan are pretending Like not like each other right now or there's like they're not like ugly, right? Yeah. She's got no story life is not for Jordan right now. So it is what it is. Sorry. Sorry. Alright guys, so this is a perfect time for me to jump in. We have a caller on the line. So call her let us know who you are where you're calling from. Hi, my name is Kaya and I'm from North Carolina. Thanks for calling. So what do you want to talk about tonight? There's a lot going on in this episode. Okay, Dan I'm with you wild wild west miss you so much. He wasn't even in this episode. Yes. I mean Wes has is here forever to be with all of us and we all love them and we pray to the gods that night that will be on another challenge. So there you go. I'm glad he went here and another page and another thing when they were in the room It was chamomile or I think why would everyone I was bananas so distance on like can and Cara working at like if people are friends outside the show you expect him coming in his game. He's had each other's back. But what was it different? What was so wrong about people by having pre-existing friendships coming into the game? Of course, if your friends somebody you coming to the game. You don't want your friends calling you out. That's the part. I didn't get in this whole episode about pre-existing. I think I'm lying. He's not even admitting that he did but I mean, yeah. Well Kyle had told Laura. Oh that they made an alliance before they came. I don't know why Laurels listening to Kyle first of all and taking advice from Kyle who's on a different team, but he said that they had an alliance before they came in. So Laura was going off of that and cam was like, I do not have an allowed to talk to these people. Yeah. That's what she said. She said well why but then she said two bananas which was her mistake. Well, why would I why would I tell you if I talk to people so just if you're looking if he saves you can't call that over time. So yeah, I'm friends with these people. I'm in the game doesn't mean the game. So everyone's doing it. So why is it bananas? If you just say the business? Yeah. I'm talking to you and guess what bananas your top of him free and black see what else is going to say today? Yeah. He just wanted someone who would be just want to came to admit that she's talking people then he has nothing on her so cam just you're talking to people who cares. Yeah big deal. You're all talking to people. Yeah, do you think that bananas was acting as because he didn't have nobody on his head. He was like had like half a team on this idea think he's an actor people to question because he doesn't have the body but Lauren Jordan and Tory but that's not even half. I don't even know if he has Jordan Jordan yelled at him tonight when he threw the ball wrong and he already Jordan got super mad at bananas right away and bananas like they are start fighting. I don't I don't know why I've been in is even open his mouth this season just be quiet and we would see T's doing be new dragon. And speaker if he shuts up once in a while, but he get far he doesn't shut up. Thank you so much for calling. We appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. All right. Well, yeah Jonathan let us know if you get anyone else in the line will talk to them to will do we got quite a few callers. All right, Jonathan. All right. We actually got one right now call or let us know who you are where you're calling from. Hi, this is Marissa from the Bay Area, California. Hello, so Dan, thank you for reading my comment about world find yet. Another person you're getting on that me understand. Why chat right now. I don't know what's going. I thought we were cool Marissa I think away back on or I'm here for you all day. Yes. So what do you think about her performance and the challenge in the final elimination? Oh, it was so rigged like they're there the whole up there for a reason and she put it in there. So just down the wrong one. So I think it's gonna producers for not being clear or just knocked like stepping in immediately and saying something different TJ's it except in earlier in my opinion and clarified that because it was a little muddled and I'm still upset with it. But whatever ninja you climate that's perfectly you said I completely agree like it doesn't seem like it was very clear because there was a lot of confusion Both sides and like I said, he's still they still rang the buzzer. So if they had known previously that there's not one up there. They would have known when she did that David. Let me throw this at you. There's exact same hole for 20 pegs prior, right? And it was a joke. Yeah, that's not the whole Hood but I mean, but I mean wouldn't they trickle in different sized hole but I'm saying when they have said that when she originally did it. Why do they take so long? Like I agree with her that that was it's weird. The Bell didn't ring which is why I thought I should go into some type of Of sudden death because Laurel didn't really know what was going on at this. It is very muddled. This is right. It was muddles. This is what should have happened the producers like the drama though. So they're like let's let's have it be this way exactly go on like you can see over things and she saw a hole right there. So she put it in like come on Marissa. Do you really think I look like a hold or just like an open Gap? It wasn't even like a whole though the top of a pole. We don't know or Go Pro or something. Like they just like couldn't put something in there. Our or whatever but moving on I've whatever I'm still kind of pissed but hi. Well, my boy West went home last week. I'm still recovering. So you got at least a week in here right now to recover. But anyway, that was like one of the best elements that talking about morals notebook, which oh my God. The most intimidating thing on this challenge her notebook Laurel and her notebook. Yeah, like okay. Oh, I would be me. Like if I was on the times I would be the notebook girl with Laura. Like I feel like that's my she's my spirit animal Challenge and always have been since the very beginning and they watch the show and then also Leroy was his comment about throwing the competition like we've always just you man. So that is all and thank you guys. I listen to you all the time. So thank you very much. Wait Morris it before you go. I have a question for you do you think about Are lurking around watching Georgia and bear because that was a funny moment to a funny Laurels like kinda catching them. Okay, to be honest, I'd be looking to I'm not going as well. So there you go. Yeah. Yeah. Well, thank you so much. We didn't really talk about the relationship that was going on tonight. That is it is so crazy because I mean Wanted something nice to have him for Josh. I don't think it's that by I get really I also said that I like the relationship between her and bear better. As far as like they are cute together Wish Bear could be fatal. We didn't get a barrister. It's a slag Flags Landslide. So when he was all upset that Laurel got called down not putting on a she didn't go home yet. You got calm down. There he goes. Oh my God. I'm like a bear. You got three other girls trying to hook up with I think it's okay if she goes home, huh? He likes Georgia Ashley Nani and you like All of them Gates Haley Haley, but they didn't say not anything I did. You said Cayley, Georgia Ashley and Laurel. Yeah. No be easier to say what girls he does? Yeah, that seems like a good transition. We got one more. Martin from Colorado. Hi, Martin, Maher you called last week? Yeah, what do you got for us tonight, Martin from Colorado? Well David, I'm with you. I'm glad yeah, Danny. Episode it was like a hole where she like put like the peg. I think it was like a long hold of something that I think the producers put it on purpose. Like if I'm not mistaken you watch this episode. I swear it was trying to make Laurel have not cheated my God. This is kind of goes with my conspiracy Logan nitrites. I think the elimination was rigged since the producers probably wanted ninja to win which is what I had said. I agree and you two went to win. I don't know. She's a competitor from last year and they want to keep her around and they didn't know she was gonna go against another ha competitor like Laurel, so they wanted they just wanted to kind of I don't know. That she's and she's been a Twist one. Yeah, and she prays for I think I think if they wanted more drama either because you know, it's going to do that. Yeah. I can't imagine them not wanting to keep your true where they can get it. They want to get it and they got it because this was a nail-biter. Well, thank you so much for calling in and hopefully we'll talk to you again next week. Yes. Thanks man. Well, David. Looks like more people are on your side of the bed or don't tell a lot of people coming to your defense. But then again you got our own the right slower less crazy ASF ASF because it neither is she just s was an accident. It's as if there was no space there. I'm sorry. All right. Yeah. I mean wow it was incredible. But all right guys, wait one more quote we have time for one more caller. They will move on to news and God. Got some news and caps. So call her let us know who you are where you're calling from. Hi Taylor Hey Taylor, welcome back again from last night. I'm just not join you and I don't know if you guys touched on this or not. But what do you think about Georgia and barely make it out in fear? Forgetting about Laurel and Georgia Skin about Josh. That's a get-together go great question Heather. So we did kind of Taylor we did sort of skip over that. You know what I'll say. I am glad I It was really cool how Georgia just straight up till Josh. Hey, we hooked up. Sorry. That was really cool. Very just like be upfront about it and Josh acted really chill about it to true. Yeah respect to both of them. Yeah, he did handle it well and that's actually really cool to Georgia to admit that she could totally have that and I could have blew up later Josh seems like he's just happy that their friends and if it does progress and that's cool. But if not, he didn't seem like he was gonna meet they had a brief moment the pool talking to I don't know who he was talking to forget. Maybe it was D. I think GT was like if she Hasn't reciprocated. She's probably not going to yeah, Josh is like super heartbroken or anything. I think he's actually you know for as emotional as Josh is he's actually handing this. Okay? Yeah, I'm like unlike some game elements. But yeah, I feel for irritated because I love her so much and I think Bears, you know, nothing but trouble well, he's using it. They are cute together. I mean like that whole flirtation like, oh you think you can sweet-talk me with food know like was so cute. But like what he's like, Are you saying he misses cuddling with her? I'm like man. I wish I was bear. I miss Cullen with Georgia like it is cute, but I wish charge on what do you think? Also her friend Nicole, uh-huh still hasn't talked yet. They are holding a relic tonight. She said something but not in here. She's just sliding under the radar. I wouldn't be surprised if she made it to the final gotta be crazy. There's no I wouldn't she's getting one if he week where she has to go into some type of elimination and she is done. That's a good production. I don't think just got Taylor. Thank you for calling fishy. Yes. Yes. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you to everybody. That's call again. We think it's really fun. It's a great segment. We do have another special segment. I want to bring back another. Oh, no, he twin boys music God this is so oh no heat Witten comes from our boy Wes who tweeted God just really funny because West were so alive and well with us Wes. Gone, but not forgotten. He tweeted, you know, this cast is a bunch of a-holes when people in the world are rooting for car and Pauly car, I'm Paulie and I thought that was really funny. He's like, you know, like people have now turned that everyone's making such diverse that they're like, yeah the car I'm Paula and I'll never be some cotton poly. But yeah. Yeah, I guess we blurred love it. Yeah, it's crazy. But I love her short hair this season you do, too. I told you. Because on the show they were on his side, right? Yeah. No, he's just saying it's funny because they were Public Enemy Number One Last so many Egos and bad. Yeah villains. I guess you could call that if you want to that that they seem like the sweethearts and then for our news and gossip. I'm not a boy. Oh boy, unsubstantiated gossip not entirely true. We haven't seen receipts on this but it has been floating around from several sources that Johnny and Jenny the beast from the other team. Yeah. Stop really what in a bathroom during the challenges like during these episodes and they just decided not to talk about Mike. We that yeah, so Johnny's not with Morgan anymore. I was bringing this. Is Paulie? Okay, so he's saying look because look at you came at me so hard for cheating you cheated on Morgan. And then the everyone on the Internet is also saying and Morgan met Johnny by cheating on her boyfriend. So it's just sort of a you know, it's just sort of a Morgan. That's just the way it mean. It's just that a lot of pot calling the kettle black Jenny denies that this ever happened. So we don't know if it's true or not. I'm sure we'll hear a lot about that during the reunions. Yeah, I guarantee you. And Morgan actually came back at Polly with a funny come back about him juggling women will see so she's not denying that it happened that she's Morgan's not that drastic at sheet. Oh, she died. Didn't she was just sort of making a joke? I don't think she was addressing it one way or the other some other news and gossip. Oh, but then a few people said this but they had hooked up in the bathroom because they were saying oh don't trust Polly but apparently eat dress said it they did to like people that you wouldn't have any reason to lie about it. Yeah. Yeah, you just has no lying about it. And Tory and Jordan got engaged. Yeah. No, that's okay congratu. Congratulations. All right in Jordan. Did you hear the the extra news on that that car? I'm Polly or really mad that they stole their Thunder. That's the real new proposal true. I don't know. That's why couldn't I heard and and I don't know if you guys want to talk about this in live chat. I've heard that there's some that the proposal really what didn't. Early happen or wasn't true or something like that that that was in the some people are writing about in here. So if you want to Enlighten us on that right now, we believe that it actually did happen, correct. But yeah, we have no reason to believe they didn't happen. But I heard some rumors out there that the proposal it was a lie. So I don't know why they would lie about this. So please tell us in the life. I don't I don't get it either. But if that's I don't I don't know. But yeah. All right, we have very little time left. So why don't we super quick when we're will say our will throw it to you guys to we can say you can't Your goodbyes as well as maybe a prediction will throw that in with your with your good-byes your AfterBuzz just like Johnny and goodbye. Johnny is back to being the Numero Uno Target in he's gonna have the watch his back. Good one, no you are right. Where who are you and where you can find me on all social media at Benny Jay Adams no prediction for me tonight, but I'll give you this ninja should switch sides because she would be a force with d Rogan and justice. Hit me up at idiot box Boys on Tick-Tock. I'm rocking that now and I will pay back of a both you and agree with both of you. Yes, she should have switched. And yes, Jonny is gonna be Target. Number one. You can find me on Instagram at I'm David Christopher forward or Twitter or fit TV network. Thank you guys so much for hanging out Pam take it away. Okay, guys, my name is Pamela throws gel. You can find me across social media at that. My prediction is that the Team USA is going to need to find a way to work together in the upcoming weeks instead of picking each other off. I hope that they're going to realize that stupid and thank you so much for joining us. 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