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What's up afterbuzzers? Thank you so much for joining us for another episode of the Orange is the New Black after-show. Like I said, we are talking saving 7 episode 9. Thank you all so much for tuning in join in our live chat. I have it up right now. We want to know what y'all think I'm your host April joined by my best girlfriend, Jessica. Okay, you can find all of us at AfterBuzz TV everywhere. If you're listening on iTunes. Be sure to give us a great rating and everything we also I have some great news and gossip. If you want to find a way to be able to stay with Orange is the New Black for years and years to come so you want to be sure to stay tuned for that as well. As our special segment was some great quotes throughout the episode. We have another episode of kind of everybody and all of our favorite people. What do you think? It's a potpourri of Orange Is the New Black it really is buddy. I think this episode episode this episode was kind of Intense. Yeah, like especially with Cindy and especially with Lorna that was tough. But then we also have really intense moments with Shauna's shaunie's truth exactly was that was a little hard to see I don't know. What did you think? I mean the same thing it was It was kind of one of those episodes that was a little more tough to watch only because you feel so much for the situation that they're in and then you're also like oh my gosh, please don't do this. This is so crazy. Not the Shawnee situation more of like the Lorna and Cindy. It's also just a terrible thing to have to realize these truths that happen every single day. It's just so difficult and yes to watch and you kind of find yourself sitting there and like not breathing while we're watching. We you even said like you haven't even you haven't said anything and I realized I was sitting there like and I had a drink too much Coca-Cola and I had to go but I couldn't I couldn't That could weaken cephalic before we get into our topics and very friendly reminder that we have not watched past the episode that we are currently on. So we will not give you any spoilers don't give us any spoilers either. We are only we have only watched up until episode 9 as of right now. I want to start off talking about Cindy because just whoa, I think only last episode we said we might not even see her. Yeah, and we get this whole scenario of her being at home. Home the moment. I mean, it's gotta go straight for it the moment of Monica her daughter getting the letter that we know tasty sent. My heart was just crushed and I can't imagine what it's like being in that situation on any side. Yeah. Oh, yeah that has to be so difficult for everyone and I was honestly I was kind of sad that we got to see that because I was kind of hoping they would just leave us hanging on that and we wouldn't even know and then we wouldn't even know. Yeah, and I think I think Briana originally this was like, oh no, they're gonna bring her back but I wasn't prepared for that. But I can't imagine like, you know, you're like 17 18 years old and you find out your grandma. I mean, your mom is really your grandma. Right? And your sister is your mom and we're told life. Yes, just like upside down right? There's the part of me that's like wouldn't they have had to tell her eventually anyway, but I guess they kind of don't it's been going on this long. Like what's the point in saying something to her? But I almost think that they gave us this as a show because it's like they almost wanted us to see Cindy be punished in a way like not that that she well she does deserve to be punished. I mean she totally screwed over tasty, but I think they did it because it's like, okay are we really just going to see her get out of prison and la-di-da? She screwed somebody over and it worked out right? Because it was shoot. Is kind of opposite of Piper getting out of jail. She got it. She got a like a great job right away where the interviewer was like. Okay. Well you were in federal prison for four years and she was able to turn that around and you know, it was so it was like so easy and they just had to like it seems that you know, seeing her from the beginning of the episode where she's like making breakfast for Monica AKA her daughter and you know, it's like every she's so positive everything seems to be looking up she An amazing outfit on for all of these interviews that she has set up and even when she and the interviewer we're talking about, you know the position I guess it's essentially like working on nursing home. Yeah. It sounded like everything they said it did sound like a perfect for her. I mean every single thing made sense. So it kind of like tears me apart a little bit to almost see her what I'm going to assume is like throw this opportunity away because she left her mom. House, did you think she would actually leave her mom's house after the blow-up with Monica and stuff like that. When I when I saw that she had a backpack. I really did think that she was gonna go even and then, you know when her mom even when her mom was, you know, her mom was clearly upset previously. Yeah, but when she was like, please stay I just felt like I didn't I didn't think she was gonna do it. I mean she is just like so down like you said like in the beginning she was so positive so positive and then she just let that mindset go right away. But why do you think she let you know? I'd say this blow up with her mom affect her in that way. Well, I think I think it's because the mom said you always what she said you always make everything bad you it's you know, it's never your fault. You always turn everything bad and you know, she already has the guilt of tasty on her back and now she has this guilt about Monica. So I think she might have had a moment but the fact that her mom said don't ever come back now, that's kind of scary because I could I could see you're leaving and then Having a moment in realizing she's being dramatic. Yes. It's a tough time, but we could figure it out. But I mean that little shot of her walking by the homeless man felt like that was like a little foreshadowing exactly. I think that it was I mean dumb of Cindy to leave I think her mom obviously in that moment hit way below the belt in the beginning when she's like, it's all your fault. You always bring a mess for me to clean up. She of course hit below the belt because what like she's been raising Cindy. Daughter she's been doing all this. She's been protecting her for this many years. Not that she deserves to be, you know to act that way but like everybody has their moments and you know the words that she said the the next day or right when city was sneaking out it kind of really resonated with me because you know, think about when you were Monica's age lets, you know, we're going to say late teens and how many times did you have a freak out and like scream your mom? I don't ever talk to me again. It's just like her. Mom said she's gonna come back and let's please figure this out together. So the fact that I was like surely this is going to get to her because it's so got to me. I was like, of course like you have to realize this so to see her still walk out. It's not that I agree with what her mom said, but I was like I get it because I'm giving you this opportunity I gave you this and you're just going to leave and give up on your daughter again, and probably what will be one of the most difficult moments in her life. It's just Me being selfish. Yep, and she really did seem to learn from it and prison but I guess maybe not but she can't also we can't forget that she can't be homeless. I think that's why they made such a big deal of the give me the address thing a few episodes back because you have to have a stable place to live and all of the house why halfway houses. They said at the time are booked, so you can't let you really can't be homeless right? So, I don't know maybe Be maybe since we are seeing her character again, maybe she'll rethink this. Yeah after she walks around more homeless people and she comes back and even though mom yelled and said don't ever come back. I mean whole village a letter back. We'll see we'll see before we move on to our next topic. I just wanted to thank you all so much for helping us be the ESPN of TV talk. If you're in the chat comment, let us know what you thought. Be sure to subscribe and rate us on our Tunes we all love our fans so much and so appreciate you watching because it gives us the opportunity to talk about our favorite shows with all of you. So thank you very much like five star rating on iTunes and all of that great job. Yeah. Yeah. I want to talk about our lovely man Caputo because I always feel like he's a little in time I talk about Cindy. I always think about tasty and now we have this situation with Caputo a little different than you know, Things that kind of go on but in real life everyday, I feel like we hear about so somebody else being accused of sexual misconduct and whatever we've seen Caputo throughout the show be a total creeper. We haven't seen him directly. I don't think like do something maybe back in season one. I can't remember anyway, but he's dealing with this whole restraining order situation. Do you think that he actually should tell the ward? Or should he not know? I think he needs to listen to Natalie because the last was a couple episodes ago. Natalie said just leave it alone don't because he wanted to you know, apologize her just leave it alone. Don't go to her and he went to her and just made it worse and now she's putting a restraining order on him. So I feel like she needs to listen to Natalie again because she's always been like the pr person for Paulie core polycon polycon and He's just saying let it go leave it alone. I think he's listened to her. Although I feel like if he did go to Ward, I feel like Ward is isn't I don't know if she knew would know what to do because she's so green. Yeah, I mean Natalie set our fig she says that you know, if she if Caputo tells her that she is legally obligated to let him go. I mean he can't be a teacher out of prison at an all female prison like if that's the case. Yeah, but I struggle with The thought of being like okay, maybe he was a little inappropriate back in the day smell like what she's saying isn't true, but maybe he is a different person now and is doing all of this stuff. So it's like do you forgive that because he's doing all this great stuff now, I mean in the realm of the show, I'm going to say yes because and I don't think I agree. I don't think he should tell her okay. Okay, because I think that it you know by what is It ultimately going to do him telling The truth are to him saying something toward he if anything he needs to make whatever reparations to the girl that is accusing him and saying that he did these things. He's tried to apologize didn't go well so like but that is the situation that he needs to fix not by telling Ward. It's just going to screw so many other people and that's what kind of kills because we've gone through, you know, Ebbs and flows with Caputo's character throughout the show and kind of being the creep and then doing things to help. Then kind of being creepy as well and he's really at this point. Anyway, other than like the freaky crap that he fig do kind of come full circle and the sense of his character really does seem to just actually enjoy the helping of the people. Yeah, whether it be the students or the prisoners. Yeah. He I mean we see like when he when he see runs into tasty the you know, they had that moment and he went you know, that wasn't a real a touching moment, especially when he said that he wished that he could have done more because you know, tasty was there and he helped tasty out and even when tasty you know with the whole Riot thing kind of like I can remember exactly what she did now but she kind of went against him. Yeah. He was like to go telling her please don't do this and she's like I have to yeah, she even though he she did that. He's still understood and he still cared for her and he still fought for her last season when she was in court and everything like that. So he yeah, he's He's genuinely good person just kind of a little doesn't think things through exactly. I think that was one of my favorite moments of the episode the moment with between him and tasty and I think that that was probably the last time that we're going to see their characters together and that's why they gave us that because that he and tasty of had a special relationship for a long time the assistant job and obviously everything that he's tried to do even though, you know, he's messed up along the life sometimes but just I think the way that they acted that scene I was like this is the last time we're gonna see all together so actually so that is so actually I was I was actually thinking that but on a different level I was wondering because tasty kind of broke down for that minute. I'm like is she gonna do the drugs? Oh she gonna get is this like there's this like a goodbye? Yeah. I mean, that's the for me like throughout. You know, we only have a few more episodes left. That's probably the biggest question in my head. Because I'm so scared of that but she does seem to be a little happier. That's true. But she was you know, I think they were I feel like our I should say, I hope that they were giving us that it does feel like a goodbye. But as like a goodbye between the characters like yeah, you know, they're one of the people if you would have said like you want to see like a final moment I would have said I wanted to see something between the two of them because they've had such a special relationship. I would rather see less Caputo and fig trying to make a baby. Be the most disgusting of ways but she's oh my God. I wish I took this down for like our little quote saying I'm actually going to be too easy. That's why I'd be too easy but something about that's in whatever. I don't know if make me baby juice, maybe get your little thing going maybe some baby juice. That's not what she said. Y'all know what she said, but it was a lot more. I don't know if I can say that all I was Channel what she said. I like seeing it's nice out of her by the way between never seen. I mean, she's still pretty Savage but you know, she just like wants a baby and yeah, I mean it is very endearing when she told him I even if she was just doing it to get him to be able to be able to make the baby juice when she said that he's doing good and she's like essentially proud of him. Yeah, like wow, it seems like she must have genuine, you know, who didn't mean what I said Alex we officially don't think that they are going to last a noun No, I don't think so either. I don't and I'm actually we were talking about this last episode that Piper wasn't annoying us as much as usual and this usually I'm a all the time annoyed with Piper this time. I was really upset with Alex. I was too Piper the moment the interactions with her dad. I love tonight, but the interaction with Alex which it took her a little bit to get there, but she you know, we learned tonight that she has been like Fully honest and she's like, okay. I did hook up with these people whatever. Alex doesn't want to hear it. But then like McCulloch comes Creepin and I mean she I feel like she didn't even try to hide that like, I don't know about little stolen glance that she gave her. I guess someone has stolen because you didn't hide it but Piper was definitely oblivious to that because she I don't think anyone in her position would think that she would go for McCollough, right? Yeah, but do you think the fact that Alex hit it means that like she could have feelings. Formicola, um maybe for me more so I think that she isn't ready to admit. Maybe that means she does have feelings but I don't think that she's ready to admit that. She also did that because she was doing that with Piper to kind of like give her a to help her I guess so she didn't explode with the other things you'd only actually out at yes I can. Out and so she was helping her and then I feel like now she realizes she kind of she's taken advantage of the situation that she brought about right. So I think it's guilt and also maybe maybe just maybe she does. Well, I think that originally Alex probably only really decided to make a move, you know, we talked about the connection and whatever but because she was like, oh well Piper is doing this. So it's the same if I do it, right, but they're Seeing these like, you know, like sexy moments and the closet whatever it's very different than what Piper did like Piper went out literally just to like get the pie plate like this is different. It just sucks that like, they can't be on the same page like it's either Piper lying to her Alex lying to her like screw each other over and I guess I'm like really are we the whole, you know entirety The show we've gone through this and this is how we're going to end again, maybe not. I don't know. It was just I was definitely not happy that Alex didn't but I did like the moment between Piper and her dad and her dad has just been super hard on her, you know, she admits to everybody of course that she was in prison and he essentially accepts it. Well, she called him out. She said you cheated on Mom and he said oh shoot, you know about that. All right, so I think once he realized that he is not perfect as well. That made it, you know him able to relate and I did think that was cute because you know, she's been kind of vying for his approval this whole time that she's been out of jail. Yeah, and that was nice. Although I thought it was hilarious when she admitted that I drink all your vodka or tequila tequila and a drip and she's like what tequila what I don't drink on the job alcohol in my desk. I love the all the ladies were supportive and like that situation where you just assume that they're going to be like and On her like I should see my ex-husband exactly. I loved it our other kind of Parental stuff going on. Well not parentals tonight, but Daya trying to get back her drug mule situation, whatever from a Leda are trying to figure out another way to do it. I still think what I said last episode that she's just there's no sign at this point of her stopping doing anything to change. Worse? No, you're right. And I wanted to think that a later would kind of put her in her place. But you know, like as we see she's trying to she's trying to one-up her mom now she's trying to take away from her mom. So she yeah, she's lost she's completely a lost cause and they're trying to find you know, the new person to smuggle in things from and I was really excited because I liked this character. He was a teacher was doing so much with pennsatucky. Helping her with her learning disability and then and then she had to go and threaten him with a shank. Well Slide the shank but to the crotch. All right, and then his son. Yeah. Yeah, the thing that got me at first I was like, okay. She just wants like, you know, she needs back in the game. She's an attitude addict at this point, but of course, she's not going to buy anything from her mom and she wants to be the hbic on her block. Whatever. But then I was like, okay, not that I get it. But like we're talking about situation of the show I get it but then when she grabbed the phone and took it as far to like look at his Facebook. I knew the second she started looking that she was looking for something to threaten him with because you can't just like take in every other situation where a guard has, you know, kind of put themselves in a position to sneak stuff in it's always been a certain type of person and Just kind of randomly going about it looking and I feel like she knew she had to have something. So the fact that she did that and is like, you know not she has a kid or selfish clearly. She's forgotten about that. Yeah, but she's threatening him to do that. I just feel like she's just gone way way way more off the deep end than we ever even thought to see her like in the GD class being so disrespectful them like honey. You're grown. Why are you okay I get you joined the class. Like make the connection with Elmer whatever but like why you're just being dumb and pizza tacos clearly bothered but I don't know. It's to me like this is annoying to me. Yeah this point the whole situation. Yeah die has died has story is annoying her character right now is annoying because she's just lost she's better than that, but it worries me about like what other links she'll go to because at the end of the episode Ward when she's talking to a computer. Says that he quit the that Elmer quit he said he had a problem with his grandma or something like that and Illinois, so she's gonna have to find somebody else to do this. But like we don't have very much longer for her to do this. I'm wondering if I guess that could wait for predictions. Never mind. I am sad that that means pennsatucky kind of has lost one of her. Yeah Advocates if you will, so when that's really trying to help her so I'm wondering how that's going to affect her. Hopefully tasty will be able to continue helping her but we'll see our ice crew is in so much stuff the same Goods as always. I want to talk about the Nikki and Shaunie moment. We're obviously we know Nikki trying to hook up with her and she Shawnee explains how when she was young someone performed genital mutilation on her. So horrible that that's real. I mean everything that's happening in the show is real and it's horrible but like that, especially Is so horrible. I feel like it's not a topic often discussed because at not not that it doesn't happen in the United States, of course, it does but it is you know from what studies show and whatever much more prevalent in other parts of the world and that is literally part of their religious culture to do that to females it really hit me when Shawnee said tonight. She's Nikki so upset. How could your mother let you someone do that to you and she's like That's our culture. She's the exact same way. I had no idea that it was any different until I moved here which kind of just goes even farther to the you know, people always wonder. Oh, you can't just let everybody and you can't just do this whatever but it's it's like look at this situation. Look at this girl who would have never known that this was wrong had she been somewhere else, right and it's just like it was It's just tough and they're hearing about it. I mean, obviously we have to educate ourselves but like I don't know. I'm proud of Nikki for handling it in like, you know, she was clearly visibly upset, but she still tried to hook up with her again and Aunt is she wants her to experience the same sort of pleasure that Sean he's giving her exactly for lack of better words. I'm happy. I'm not happy of course about her situation, but I'm happy. That's what her story was that something horrible because for a moment I thought Shawnee was being discussed. Dishonest and that she was scheming and up to something different that would interfere with the whole, you know, the whole ice crew helping I mean the kitchen crew helping the ice people out, right? So I'm happy that that's not where it went. But of course that's not happy that that situation happens right her but like you said we need to be educated stuff like this happens and it's a sad reality exactly speaking of people helping people and Ice Detention Center. Obviously we have Bonkers, let's call her friend. I guess her new buddy her new buddy Carla. She gets the note about our kids custody battle in the moment where they are talking with litvak, right limit. I almost said it. I thought no did you think he was actually going to give her transportation for her kids? No, I mean this guy is a douche and and I think You know. Flakka playing all these pranks with him. Yeah, eight it into that at that moment in time because you know, everyone was walking by laughing that she wrote that and that aggravated him even more like we learn from the past episode when Blanca got him to turn back on the computers. She stroked his ego a little bit and you know, Carla tried to like get in there nicely and write code you have kids this in this but he shut her down and then the whole clip back thing. Shut up. Shut him down even more so no, I'm not surprised that he's this is the thing. I think she was wearing when she says to him. You know, I have this custody hearing I have to be there you have a legal responsibility to provide me Transportation. I was like I don't think you know that he does and I don't necessarily think that technically he does. I think that she was trying that because that's what helped in the case whenever she was actually, you know, she had her hearing that's we don't know that she I mean she did work in a law office she references that but we don't know that she knows that that's a law and like I'm not knowledgeable on that either. I'm not it. I don't know enough, but I'm pretty sure it's also not but you know, like you do whatever you can you say whatever you can to get there because chances are that product that Person may not know either and instead of getting in trouble. Maybe they're going to take you because they think it's their legal obligation it I mean it kills obviously that she's in this situation. But the moment we're block Blanca seats Gloria at the end another reference to last episode kind of a little foreshadowing here. I just feel like that is has Gloria and trouble written all over it. Mmm, and I don't want to say that because I mean, don't you do you think Gloria should help her? Or do you think Gloria should stay where she is? I mean, she's already kind of accepted that she's helping people when she kept take last episode when she kept taking the papers from everyone returning the trays. So she kind of is where she is now and I think the only way that she could get out of that if she needed to put her foot down would be not being part of the kitchen. Yeah crew anymore. But at the same time she's friends with Blanca, she knows Blanca from before and that would almost also be like Abandoning her friend and I don't think she'll do that. I don't think so either and I there is the part of me. That's like, okay. You can't help you have the ability to I just hope that it doesn't leave her in a lot of trouble. Obviously, it's not that of course. I'm very empathetic for Carla. But you know, I'm just thinking in terms of the show of like emojis. I don't want to get messed up. I don't want her to get myself either but you know, I'm being selfish and a scenario and yeah, right. We'll see maybe they're icing out Nikki, but I feel like everybody everything's going to get better but um like Lorna and red and stuff like that, but Anna is clearly in a bad way and the whole entirety of her episode tonight Parts in this episode were very difficult to watch shout out to Yellowstone for doing an amazing job because like in the moment in the bathroom when she's crying. I was just like that's definitely a me worthy right there. Just that moment, but the flashback what it's so difficult. Even talk about because like we see what I feel is a different part of Lorna than we've seen. We've seen her be kooky. We've seen her not living in reality, but we've never seen her directly like blackout. Yeah that yeah that was really tough to watch and I was telling you this when we were watching I feel so evil saying this but it's so frustrating watching her her go through this because you're you can't Have to have some grasp on reality. Right and and she really doesn't and I mean that happens to people some people just have stuff going on and it's just frustrating because she could be so great. I guess if you will, right? Well, I think it's they showed us this part of the flashback but to say, you know, obviously when people go through trauma, they totally blocked stuff out but I think they did this because we've always just thought like she's a little kooky She clearly has some issues but just doesn't live in reality. I feel like this is that showing them showing us. This says like she has an actual issue where like there are certain things that happen that she can't even remember them happening in her life. I mean when the car was driving up to her she thinks it's the guy that was like trying to hit on her earlier and even after they you know, she walks up to them. Oh, it's just awful and the car after they crashed and like she grabs her girls and she's like and they just got engaged like her mind. Is an employee grasping what happens delusional I mean and then to equate it obviously to what's happening in her life. Now, I don't I guess we're we see her running out of the jail at the end. I mean, we don't know but it's like she doesn't she can't grasp the situation with her child. So therefore she's kind of doing this whole running blacking out thing again, that was awful to watch the stuff with Vinny. I just because I'm so heartbroken for Vinny. I am too because he it's like he's giving her the chance. He's saying I want to be with you but like you can't you have to live in reality and the fact that Vinnie genuinely wants to be with her and he genuinely thought they could be each other's like rocks and this time even though he's seen how kooky she is. Yeah, that was tough because he's genuinely in love and he's genuinely hurt and Yeah, I mean when she's just kept talking about the baby like they didn't just talk about it. Yeah passing. It's almost better in my opinion that for her to I and I kept thinking this is she gonna go this way. She going to go this way for her to be like you let my baby die right then to be in this fake Instagram. Whatever kind of scenario. Yeah. Yeah be be like she's in the denial stage, but be Yeah, like get to the angry stage. It's okay to be angry. She just needs to accept it, but she definitely doesn't have the ability to because we see what this flashback that she there's a lot of things. She just can't accept. Yeah, and I feel like her, you know potentially losing him or losing him as just going to send her even farther over the edge what - when they were looking for her. I mean did you think she just escaped or like what did you think was happening? I mean I was Really wondering where the heck could she be like all the doors that she's running through don't they have like alarms or locks or something. So I'm curious to know where this door that she walked out led to do. You think it's outside part of me feels because they were mirroring, you know everything with what happened when she got up to the roof at the Pelican Hotel and how she was running Barefoot in the street. I'm hoping it's not like to the roof. Oh God. That would be awful and heard a jump. I mean, I definitely don't want the character to die. I just especially with them getting rid of the psych ward and all these other things that they need. She I don't feel like she has the proper care and prison. So I was definitely worried that she had committed suicide right then just because I think him saying the words that he did and then throwing the if you You can't do this and I want a divorce. But to me I like he was saying nice like he's saying this is my reality. I can't take you doing this and I just think she doesn't have the ability to not do that all I don't know. We'll see. I mean, I really hope not before we do our news and gossip and predictions. You have our special SEC. Yes, since bran brand is not here. I will do it. Love it to you. Okay. Um, so let's see. I wish I had a Blackberry scone for you Nicky. Yay. She's giving us she's giving me once but somebody said on the show and I have to guess who said. Oh, yes. I'm sorry. I forgot to mention that my apologies. I'm flattered. I've never had a stalker before. Oh gosh, I don't know you do. I don't know Shani Shawnee because she she found out the Blackberry scones because of her stock in on the Facebook and Instagram. Yeah tacos are on Tuesday, duh. Oh gosh, it's either. Oh, is it flock of? Yeah, the Flickr was giving me epilepsy. That was the characters. I can never die. I don't know her name. I think another random character set it in. We're in the um, what's it called the office? It wasn't an office. Yeah Piper's coworker. Oh and there's little room. Yeah. Okay fibrous co-worker. Okay, you kind of got it math nerd or Tokyo Drift. I don't know that was 80, although when they're talking about a professor. So evil of them. I don't know if ye okay, um now on to our news and gossip segment, so we were just talking about Yale. Yeah, baby. Yeah. She just posted this on her Instagram today Orange is the New Black is put there they're doing this. Fund called a pussy Washington fund and it's a to help fight the injustices of mass incarceration and the broken broken immigration system that we have here and it was named after some areas character Posse Washington and the organization benefits eight campaigns. Some of them being a new way of life re-entry project and Tyree. Oh my God. I cannot read I'm feeling like a pennsatucky right now. Let's scratch that when freedom of immigrants and immigrant Defenders Law Center. And so this program at first I was telling April like, oh my God, is this real is this a joke, but they wanted to use her character in the show just because of everything that happened to her character. Are we the show and all the misconduct and stuff that goes on in the prison and they want all the viewers since there's so many viewers. To keep this going especially because this is the last season. So yes, I want to watch the little yeah, let's watch the clip the clip the fund will support nonprofit. Advocacy groups whose goals are to reform criminal justice protect immigrants rights end mass incarceration and support women who have been affected by it. We've been honored to tell these stories of these characters and we've learned firsthand that the system is failing women both inside and outside of prison walls. So the pussy Say Washington fund will help all of us keep the orange Legacy living on Far after the show is over. Please go to the link to learn more. I just love that they're doing something to actually like she said keep the legacy of the show going but actually really doing something to make a difference because we can always say let's do this we should do this but to actually put something into a into effect that really, you know, kind of brings the whole show together and encompasses everything that we've always talked about. Just so great. Yeah, and this is a spoiler for those of you who haven't watched past spoiler for you April. They're going to mention this in the last episode of this series. So they they had originally wanted to tie it in in the previous season, but didn't know how to so we'll get to see this and just a nice way to keep it. Keep it going. Exactly and now let's do some quick predictions. TV predictions What do you think Lorna dies? Yes, you do. I do. I just think that it's a you know, we've lightly touched on her mental state, but never we've never like been given a full-blown shebang she should be you know in this that it's clear that she should be in some type of therapy but like that. There's actually you know more To it, and I just don't think that she can kind of take the situation the ultimate, you know, the worst thing that could have ever happened to her. It has happened to her and how she's always said and everything. Do you think she is? I don't know part of me doesn't feel like she is but I'm hoping if she is not dead that this will help maybe something with the prison and realize that they need to not get a do away with sir. I'm things and she needs to get some help. But yeah, I don't know. I'm also going to predict that Cindy might be going back to jail. I hope not but I could see it going that way just for the fact that they brought the character back at like we mentioned earlier. I thought they were just going to leave us there so I could I could possibly see that happen. I don't know so sad. Okay. Well, let us all know your predictions. We definitely want to know what you have to say. Remember to like subscribe comment. We All of your comments and love interacting with y'all and the meantime y'all can find me everywhere at April with some hand. You can find me on Twitter and Instagram and XOXO Cesc a you can find all of us everywhere Facebook Instagram iTunes at AfterBuzz TV. We will see you soon for episode 10. 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Hosts April Whisenhant and Francesca are still reeling over the Lorna flashback that we get tonight. Will Vinny really divorce her? Cindy is living at home but Monica gets Taystee’s letter in the mail which causes an immense amount of trouble. Blanca is trying to help other people in the ICE detention center but we see problems arising. All this and more! ABOUT ORANGE IS THE NEW BLACK Orange is the New Black comes from "Weeds" creator Jenji Kohan about a women’s prison drama with comedy that takes no prisoners. Based on the acclaimed memoir of the same name by Piper Kerman, the series is about engaged Brooklynite Piper Chapman, whose decade-old relationship with drug-runner Alex results in her arrest and year-long detention in a federal penitentiary. To pay her debt to society, Piper must trade her comfortable New York life with fiancé Larry, for an orange prison jumpsuit and a baffling prison culture where she is forced to question everything she believes about herself and the world at large. As she struggles to adjust to her new reality, she finds unexpected laughter, tears, conflict and camaraderie amidst an eccentric and outspoken group of inmates. 