Welcome to haken in Animal Crossing podcast your podcast dedicated to all things Animal Crossing. This episode is brought to you by Leon somebody who has been really helpful to our community this past week today Sergio and I will be talking about why Animal Crossing isn't quite treated like other games and Animal Crossing spin-offs, so to begin. Hello, Sergey O'Hara Are you doing hello chewy, I'm doing quite well, it's been it's been quite the week. How are you? I agree and I feel like it may not be immediately obvious what we're talking about. But of course we're going to be talking about this director in several ways. But yeah, I'm doing well. I'm recovering we both made videos following the direct to you know, just kind of talk about how we're feeling and yeah, I guess I don't know man. I could have sworn that we got an animal crossing announcement five months ago. And so it seemed like it was time to see the game, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. I guess what are you feeling about that? Yeah. I let myself go with the hype and I was expecting to see the game. I was sure I was sure it was going to happen. It was time. I was so sure of it. And then when we need when it didn't happen I was Be upsetting but I guess I feel like I recovered pretty quickly too. But you know when I think about it, it's upsetting. I can relate just because like I thought there is no way that we are not going to see Animal Crossing now like no way they're there. I don't know. I couldn't believe it. I could not believe it. I was so sure and just like you I let myself get really excited. I was like everything's the whole world is going to change tomorrow and you know what it kind of changed but not in the way we wanted it to that's very true. So I made a video about how little animal crossing news we get from Nintendo. I wanted to talk about reasons as to why that may be the case. So before we start with that, how did you feel about the direct right after watching versus right now? So right after watching it, you know it was And I guess the worst part was when they said in this is the last game we're revealing today and it was it was bittersweet because I'm happy that Zelda links Awakening is getting a remake. It's one of my favorites eldest and it's looking really good. But at the time with they said that in the last game wasn't Animal Crossing like I was really hoping yeah, it hit me hard that, you know, we've been waiting five months and then we finally get a direct and it's over. And it's there's no Animal Crossing not even not even like a hint of it. Nothing at all what you're saying. It made me think right. Now. This was a weird direct ending because typically we get the one more reveal thing and then credits roll, but they even took the time to go back to that one guy, right? I always just call him the magician because of okay, let me let me get sidetracked. Real quick. I call him the magician because in 2017 January we got the big like Nintendo switch reveal and there was this whole conference and thing it really felt like those old. The III conferences at Nintendo used to have you know, yeah. And so anyways this guy what's his name? Do you know his name? Not the not up top of my head. No, I don't remember his name and I feel bad because I just keep calling him the magician, but he walks in. In and Jackie, she's never seen anything like this. And so I was just like you want to watch this with me. They're showing the new Nintendo switch console. We're going to see what this whole things about and she was like, yeah sure I'll watch it. And so this for her like on its own was this whole experience because she's never seen a conference like this before. But anyways, this guy watch walks in and I was like, is he a magician and then he does like some magic trick thing where the joy con comes out of his sleeve or something. And so I've always just called him the magician anyways, so that's my sidetracked conversation about that. So we get that trailer for Zelda. That was the big ending thing and then typically like when we get that one last thing it goes to like the credits, you know, it has the Nintendo logo. It says 2019 or whatever, you know, there's essentially just like an ending slide to the direct. Yes, but in this one, we got the Zelda trailer and then it goes back to him and then we're expecting more. Right right, right like but that was it. That was all of it. And so I don't know I was taken aback. I was I was surprised that that happened especially because like, you know, they're they're they're well aware that Animal Crossing fans are going crazy for this game like and this will maybe I'll bring this up a little bit later, but they talked about it a bit and their official podcast. But yeah, I'll get to that later, but they know for a fact that Animal Crossing. We're excited. We're looking for this game. And then there's just this weird decision to somehow not end it directly after this Zelda trailer and then just take us back to him expecting another announcement, you know? Yeah, and you know what I could have expected to see or it would have made sense why it comes back back to the magician. If you know, he says, okay, this is everything we were showing you today. Thank you for watching and then it cuts to a slide or an image say saying look out for an animal crossing Focus their act in April or something like that. I was hoping for that like even when the video ended I was just waiting there for a couple of seconds just to see if maybe you know, there's something else but now there was now that and that is an ending right there like to just show this awesome new Zelda game, which I can't deny it looks amazing. But and then just tell us like here you go Animal Crossing direct coming up. And but they just want what they don't throw us a bone. They won't let us know anything about this game. Yeah, it's so rough. So yeah, if you want to continue, let me know keep telling me how you felt how you feel now. Yeah, definitely so, you know at first I couldn't understand why they wouldn't show any of it or give us any details or even hint at them. So it took me a couple of days to realize it in you you pretty much called it the Act that. They didn't show it this early in the year. It just means that it's going to come out way late in the year, you know November December at the very earliest and that's why I guess I think they're ready to show you. They just don't want to because of that reason it's coming way later. Yeah, and I mean I keep thinking back to their I guess. What is it the financial report and get ahead all the stakeholders and such at this meeting the financial meeting and They essentially said like they said it like they were pretty confident that Animal Crossing is coming out in 2019. They wanted to reassure people that that was what was happening. So, I don't know. It just seemed like pretty it seemed very decisive to me that Animal Crossing is coming this year. It's not going to be delayed, but we're not going to show it yet. So it sounds to me like this is going to be somewhere between Member and December right? Like I'm placing it there just because literally all the last announcement we got was in August game. And so I'm just like, okay. Well, it sounds like we've got spring summer kind of worked out and maybe maybe in September we'll start to see like these later games start to pop up, you know. Yeah. Yeah and if that's the case and you know Nintendo was like saying we like to show games. When they're soon to come out and for the most part we will leave them but they themselves know they can break that rule whenever they want and they do it pretty frequently. So I I hope that's the reason and if that's the case, that's the reason the name makes sense why we didn't see across in yet and going with that. I'm expecting selda to in September. Hopefully then that's why they kind of show it they were able to show it now, you know now that's interesting you say that because now You for a long time. I've been saying Animal Crossing September. I thought you would have stuck to it even more at this point. No, I just I don't think I cannot with the signs or lack of science if you will. Okay, I think selda is going to be that data, which was September 20 2019. I can see that yeah, and we we got to think about because I don't know. I guess I've never pictured September being like a Video game release month, you know, like I don't know. I guess I did never seem like a big month to release a game to me, but perhaps I'm wrong in thinking that but maybe it's just like I don't know kids are getting back to school around that time. So they're you know, they're focused on studying like it's the beginning of the year. They write the most energy to put toward that at that point in their life, you know. And so the why distract them with the game, but anyways, like Zelda like when you say September for that, it does make sense because Zelda's the type of game that like you could release it at any point in the year and it's going to sell its going to Garner some interest from people, you know, right? Um, so yeah, I don't know and then may I keep saying it I'm crossing is a holiday cell machine like that thing will make tons of money, especially during the holiday that it's like such a child friendly game. It's so oriented towards so many different demographics. Like a lot of people are going to buy it at that point in time. You know, right? Yeah, so I guess so, how are you feeling after the fact like now that you've seen the direct come and go and A view re-watched it since then no not exactly. You know, I do the Nintendo jump podcast in pretty much right after the Drake happen. We also had our weekly recording in just by going through the notes on that episode. I kind of relieved everything and I kind of approached it with the mindset that okay. So there's no Animal Crossing. So now what did I miss because when I was watching the Drake for the first time, I was just wanting to see animal crossing and everything else was what's a Bonus, but I wasn't paying as much attention as as I should have. Yeah, and that's how I feel about them. Now like I tend to watch the directs twice maybe is sometimes four or five times, but I mostly watch the first time. I'm just like look I'm here for Animal Crossing news. And that's all I'm trying to figure out right now. And so I recognize that me going in like that. Is unfair to the rest of everything that's shown because you know, they're not Animal Crossing. They're a different game. It's just I have to watch it again to get the rest of the thing and luckily like I enjoy watching reaction videos like Arlo is always posting like his reactions to the direct. So I'm entertained by them. And so I end up watching it, you know a couple more times just by watching a couple more. I guess reactions all of these things. But yeah, typically I will watch it twice like the actual direct video and then I'll go back and do really watch the reactions and then I'm like, okay, it's nice to get a taste of what somebody else is feeling, you know, when they watch this wrecked because I know I have to like it's almost an out-of-body thing where I know the first time I'm watching. I'm just focused on seeing animals. Icing and then I don't get it. I'm like man bummer and then I have to watch it again and be like, okay, what did they show I know, you know this one and then lastly three and then the direct after E3 the one in September. I don't know why but I get nervous when I'm watching them as soon as they are about to start because we don't know, you know, we getting Animal Crossing. Okay. Now we have it announced are we gonna see it? I get so nervous in it. It makes them very memorable, but also very different. An experience to these latest directs. Yeah, it's weird to just like go on these emotional roller coasters all the way through especially with all of these recently pretty much like since E3 like all the directs last year. I was just like look Animal Crossing. Like I know you all have had to have been working on it by now. It has been so long. We've been expecting a Game in HD since the we you came out clearly like there's no doubt in my mind that you've been working on it. Just let me know. So yeah, just like last year the the tension started going up. I feel exactly yeah. So my watching experience the first time was kind of strange to I watched about 15 minutes of it and it was mostly like I was working and I had it on on and I was listening and when I heard something interesting, I'd kind of look at the screen, you know, but for the most part I was very I was very much just trying to listen for something animal crossing right and then I had to go to a meeting which wasn't even in the like same building that I was in work. And so I was like, oh, that's okay. I can hear it in the car or something while I go right and then nobody was at the meeting on time. I am and I was just sitting here looking at the chat while it was all happening because I was like At first I was not going to do that. I was like just gonna go in and watch it and see if I saw Animal Crossing, but I knew that I didn't want to miss out on seeing everybody's reactions and I had I just had to know I just had to know that when I got back to my desk after this meeting whether or not I was going to be able to see an animal Passing trailer at that point. So I started watching the chat and then I saw everybody get bummed, you know, and yeah, it was strange living through it like in that sense, but it also kind of like, I don't know it lightened the blow for me because it wasn't exactly like I was experiencing it. I was just kind of watching other people react and experience it and I was like, okay, I guess I didn't have to watch this thing. Yeah, it wasn't the like the ideal way for you to find out either or but it probably you know, it's for the best that the way things went the way they did. Yeah, and so like I said when I got back from work later that night I did watch it again and I was like man, there's some cool stuff coming up. I made a list of the things I liked I I'll list it out for you really quick Super Mario maker to of course. I'm stoked for that. Also. I've got to say like it's not every day that you get a Nintendo Direct that announces both the Mario and a Zelda game and like those are those are the two Nintendo icons, you know, so that's pretty cool. I think the bookends of it were strong. Yes. I've never played Dragon Quest both Builders or the like May PG thing but I've been interested for a while. I'm just like I have to get through some of my backlog because that's another hundred plus our game. Yeah, but I was interested only in Aki another RPG Fire Emblem another RPG. I like RPGs. I know a lot of people this direct was not great because it was very RPG heavy, but I don't know I gotta say like the RPGs that are starting a lot. We're starting to see a lot more on switch and It's not something that I'm going to complain about. Yeah for the longest time Nintendo systems kind of struggled with RPG. So it's it's nice to see them stay but I'll come back and stay strong. Yeah, and like this year like was very strong for me because I was already stoked for Tales of Vesperia that came out last month. I haven't gotten it yet because I've made my backlog rule as you know, right I've to get through it before I buy games. But anyways, like they're a lot of RPGs were like some of the reason that I was very stoked for 2019. We got all the final fantasies and stuff Final Fantasy 9 just surprised dropped another RPG that I'd want to get but I'm not going to quite yet Final Fantasy 7 is next month along with a chocobo everybody, right? Yeah Tetris 99 we're both. Saying that yes, it's pretty fun. I like that Delta Rune. I got undertale but I haven't played it yet. That's one of my backlog games. See I have great games in my backlog. So I shouldn't be buying more. So yeah, I want to play undertale and then try out Delta Rune it seems cool. But yeah, that was my list. I am made a list because I was like, okay, there's some stuff that I'm excited about and it really adds to The switch and what I'm going to get out of it, yeah, it gives me something to play while I wait for Animal Crossing to yeah exactly in that's that's why I want to see selda before Animal Crossing and and I think it is going to come out earlier so that I can play it without so they can play it honestly. I don't know if I would if Animal Crossing is out. I was wondering if did you play the original back in the day? No, I've never played this one. Yeah. Yeah, so the it'll be a brand new experience for me. Awesome. You're gonna love it. Yeah, I play a lot of Zelda games. I'm I've actually play more of the 3D ones. Like I've played every 3D Zelda game except I didn't finish Skyward Sword and even get through the tutorial of Skyward Sword, but that's another conversation for another time. So, yeah, I just I don't play a lot of top-down Zelda's and this art style is Horrible, I think it's going to be a really fun game to see and experience so I'm for it. Yeah, yeah, definitely and I think the biggest revealed for me was Link's Awakening. Like I said, even though it was a little Bittersweet but you know, I you know after the direct and then a couple of hours after when I was on my way back home, I felt like I needed to get something off my chest and in that way I did the audio recording the turning into the video that you described and you know, the bottom line is that I love our discourse community and I want the positivity to remain in the hype, especially the high because it wasn't just that direct itself. I feel like when they announced the show direct tomorrow. Oh man. I just let loose with the hype and I honestly I feel like my my own personal switch. We got flipped to the hype mode and it broke and it's going to stake in hype mode until until The game and I cannot wait to see it. Yeah, and honestly, I don't think they can go another direct without giving us something Animal Crossing know at this point. I think people are angry and if we need something just a little taste and because for all it for everybody who I always see this comment, like people are just like be patient. It's not time yet. They don't want to show it and I'm just like look got it all we have I've seen at this point is the title and it's not even like the title of the game. It was just the regular old Animal Crossing logo that we always have that's part of the title, you know? Yes, that's always seen on a some green background and there's a Nintendo switch logo in the corner and 2019 underneath that all of its. Oh, yes, right. So, you know, like there were new games announced today. Is this past direct that we Ever heard of but somehow we still got a little taste of it and that's all we're asking for just a little taste. So before we leave this topic, I did want to talk about some reasons as to why we just don't get as much Animal Crossing news and this is essentially the list I came up with one of the big things with Animal Crossing is that the clock is real Time That's What differs from this game when you play it you're playing in real time. And my I don't know I guess I always just think of like maybe Nintendo sees this fan base is like incredibly patient because we play a game that is essentially patients, you know, you play once a day every day and then after 300 days you are so far in this game. You've made you've made life for yourself, you know, right, so, I don't know. Maybe it's just the real time. Aspect that they feel like they don't have to say too much. The other thing I thought is they can't make a Mainline Animal Crossing game every year and the end. It's mostly because of that real time clock if they release to Mainline Animal Crossing games in less than a year. You didn't even get through a whole year of the other game before the new one comes out. Right? So like yeah, they just literally cannot put a new game out that It often so that just leads to the news coming out later and later. You know, right right. The next thing is it's a successful game and it doesn't need the marketing. We're going to buy it no matter what? Yeah, no matter how much they show and they kind of figured that they showed that perfectly with new Leaf like we saw for English announcement and then the game was out like in and that will ensure for sounds like a lot but With spread among three years three years of waiting and we saw it four times. We saw this game only four times in that amount of time, right? Yeah, so I don't know it's strange how little we see of it. And then I don't you you feel other games like breath of the wild sure. We only saw it like very seldomly throughout the we use lifespan. But as soon as it was was out there like we saw it all the time there were trailers there was their whole III Booth was dedicated to breath of the wild, you know, so everything was just all of it was Zelda and I'm like, okay. Well, we waited a long time to I know we're not as Alda. I know we're not like number 2 Nintendo icon, but we sell pretty well like the only three Zelda games that have sold more than In Animal Crossing New Leaf. So we do a great job. We're buying the game. Right? Right. And you know, I really like your point about being patient and it's true, you know us when we get a new Animal Crossing in we're going to be playing it for years, but I think that's the problem if we don't have the game like right now and we haven't seen it and we know it's coming soon. We kind of need to see it and I think Nintendo should know that So it's unlike, you know, like a Mario game or sold again people buy it and they beat it. Sometimes even in a couple of months or even weeks and then they want a new one because they're done that's not the case with Animal Crossing and I think maybe that's why we should get some sort of different treatment. Not a special just different more more focused or showing us what we want to see, you know, yeah, and that gets me to the last thing especially with what you're saying. And with like more focused I think Nintendo just sees that Animal Crossing shines best as a dedicated direct. Yes, the it's a we talk about this all the time. But Animal Crossing is a game where you move out and you buy a home and you have to pay off your mortgage to survive. You actually don't like it's not really a thing that you have to do, but it's pretty nice paying off your mortgage and building a bigger house and filling it with more things, but that's a strange. Concept for people who don't know about the game. So it feels like they know it has to have its own direct. It has to be shown off in a way where you can get a little bit more insight in what the gameplay is like because it's not the easiest game to consumed by ear, you know. Yeah, even by like a short little trailer like it's hard to capture like exactly what's going on. Yeah, exactly. Even the welcome amiibo up. They got a fairly lengthy direct. Yeah with the live KK Slider that was exciting. Yeah. And so, you know with that said there is that we have gotten Animal Crossing news. Unfortunately the news that we have gotten hasn't been quite what we wanted to see and it's been focused around spin-offs. So So let's actually move into our next topic and that is Animal Crossing spin-offs because there are a lot of good things to say about the spin-offs. I guess. I'll go ahead and start. I think the biggest struggle with the spin-offs that that we've gotten for Animal Crossing is that they've come at a time when we're all anticipating. Yes. I'm Mainline HD game. So if I took you back happy home designer and amiibo First of all both came out in 2015. So that's two years after Animal Crossing new Leaf and at that point people were expecting in the Animal Crossing Wii U game, you know, and instead we got another 3DS game and amiibo Festival which was you know for the Wii U, and I don't know I think just at that point like two years had passed that means we've gotten a full year with Animal Crossing and I think Most of all people just wanted to see an HD game, you know? Yes, and we kind of did it doesn't count though because they know what we mean. And so after that we got news in 2016 with the welcome amiibo update. Like you said, we got a very lengthy direct dedicated to that update. Yes, and in that spelled trouble for me because I was like, oh man, it might be a while before we see an animal crossing. And then finally in 2017, so like every year for since 2015 we've gotten some news. So 2015 2016 2017. We got the dedicated Animal Crossing direct once again, but this time it was for pocket camp and this time they let us know right out the gate that there was going to be no news about Animal Crossing switch. There's going to be nothing about Animal Crossing another anything but the most Mobile title right, you know, right and so all the while like in 2017 by the time it was the pocket Camp one. We're like, okay the switch is out. Now we didn't get one on the Wii U, but we're getting one on the switch right and still no still nothing. It's still very little news and then we jump forward yet another year 2018 and they give us the announcement that Animal Crossing is coming. The switch in 2019. So technically we've gotten use for Animal Crossing every year. Yeah, but the issue with all of these news, I guess news Cycles are that essentially? We've been waiting for a Mainline HD game like that that one little fact right there has always been in the way of the news that we have gotten for Animal Crossing. Right? Right. Yeah, so I don't know I guess I don't know. I just don't know how they could fix that. You know, I don't think it's something that can be fixed until we actually do get that Mainline game because I know for a fact that I The way Animal Crossing works like we mentioned before it's a real-time game. You can't put one out every year but you can do a spin-off and we've essentially gotten that every year, but when I think this is going to work a lot more successfully when Animal Crossing switch comes out, we're going to get Animal Crossing switch. It's going to be really great. We're all going to be very happy, but then Maybe so 2019 we get the game maybe 2020 we get like a happy home designer to or maybe they'll revisit amiibo festival and be like, all right, maybe amiibo Festival isn't the greatest party game, but we can make a party game for Animal Crossing. That's awesome. And then they make like a new party game for Animal Crossing by no because a year after Animal Crossing is out. We're not going to be upset about that. We're going to be happy about it. You know, right? Hmm. Yeah, so that's my thing. Yes. What are you thinking? You know what it what this reminds me of an and I really liked your point in it's very very true. It reminds me of when Metroid Prime Federation force was announced for the 3DS. The Madrid fan base had been wanting a new Metroid game for the longest time. They it didn't matter to them if it was on a console or a handheld. They just wanted I knew traditional Metroid game and then when Nintendo announced a spin-off in it definitely wasn't what people were expecting or wanting and there was a lot of backlash in I was recently listening to an older part because I was talking when this was going on and then somebody said well, how come people didn't complain when Metroid got a pinball game on that DS in someone brought it brought up a really good point. It's because at that point Nintendo was still making really good Metroid games Metroid Prime 2 Been recently released in I think that's the case here Animal Crossing has been getting a lot of spin-offs and that's good by itself. But we need the main line games. We need to be playing the main language and then the spin-offs to compliment that I think like you're saying in the next coming years if we see a lot of Animal Crossing spin-offs, I think that's going to work really really well. I agree and like I I'm Pro AC spin-off. I loved happy home designer. I played amiibo Festival. I still have fun with pocket camp and you know, I would actually want to see them revisit that party idea for Animal Crossing and make an animal crossing party game, you know, definitely because I think that idea has a lot of potential and they just didn't quite pull it off very well. But yeah, I don't know I'll I've been loving the spin-offs. I think they've done a great job with it and I think once animal Switch comes out. I think the spin-offs are going to be much better received. Yes. Exactly. Yeah, and yeah, like you're saying exactly like Metroid has gotten treated like that far longer than Animal Crossing has so yeah, it's time it's time to see that change and I think it will I think after this year it's going to feel a lot different. It's going to feel better, you know. Yeah, definitely and I sure hope so I'm also in favor of spin-offs for sure and you know, it could get interesting. I don't want to say tricky but let's say for example Nintendo decides to do spin-offs. They could either have a second party like one of their development Partners handle it or I'd like a side team and if that's the case the main theme can still be working on either DLC for Animal Crossing switch if we get that or the next entry whenever that is so they can start early and you know, get everything going hopefully as soon as possible. On the other hand if the main team wants to handle the spin-offs. I think that's okay too because they can Branch off on doing different things that they couldn't try before and most of the time those things end up becoming a part of the main like series like like it happened with happy home designer. So either way, you know more spin-offs. It's just good news for Animal Crossing and I like what you're saying about the main team going to make the next like Animal Crossing spin-off because the main team did make happy home designer. There were tons of really cool ideas that came up with it. And that's why I'm like, I'm very excited for the next game because I have a feeling we're getting a lot of those really cool features that we got from happy home designer and that's going to be that's going to be great. It's going to be so awesome being able to place a rug on my carpet and you know place other cool things on that other stuff on the ceiling even you know, like there's a lot of little things that they added that I think are going to make it in just because a lot of the main staff to the game worked on the game, you know, yeah. Yeah and for happy home designer honestly, and we discussed this in previous episodes that we agree that it's the best spin-off of the three that we have. So I think it's one. It's also the one that would be that would make the most sense as its own Series so I can definitely see happy home designer two or more in the future. But you know, what else I was thinking of I can also see it as the Elsie for Animal Crossing switch I can see you having to pay for this like the happy home designer expansion and then you get the ability to hope to work for The Happy Home Academy and you can do so at your own time whenever you want to it's like an additional feature that you get in the main line game. So I like both ideas. I honestly don't know which one I would prefer. I mean, I don't know. There are a lot of really cool things they could do personally. I kind of leaned toward like a happy home designer. R2 but like they add like city planning on top of it because you know, like people go crazy like putting paths all over their town and you know, placing figuring out ways to place homes exactly where they want to but like to be able to design like a whole town and then decorate every house and yard and everything and then go through and walk around it and interact with like Villages like they could Sims it up and it would work very well you No, yes. Yeah, so I lean toward that I personally I'm all for it. Like if we get Animal Crossing switch 2019 this year and then 2021 like a super cool happy home designer like that. Yes, sign me up. I'm for ya into it. So after two years, I think it's a good transition period from the main line to a spin-off. You know, what we wait for the next Main Line. Yeah. It's just the cycle. Yeah. And you know, it probably wouldn't take so long for them to work on that because they will surely work with the same assets that they had for Animal Crossing switch because that's what they did with happy home designer. So yeah, the it shouldn't be too bad. And then that way I feel like this just gives them the opportunity to mess with some ideas that they couldn't quite do for the mainline game and figure out a good way for a good ways to grow for the next game. Yeah, right. So yeah, I'm all for that experimentation and growing what growing off of what exists? Yes. Yes. And also like I said for a Medieval Festival to I I want to see what they can do without the pressure of just wanting to release a game that's quickly as possible to take advantage of amiibo. We kind of said that that's really why the game came out it came out to use amiibo and I'm pretty sure they had a lot of other ideas or they could do so much more. They could add actual mini games. The the system itself would be a lot less luck base. You would be more interesting and I'm sure they would add online play which would be great to have in that one. Yeah, I know man. We can't even get online play on Mario Party. But if Animal Crossing got it if Animal Crossing was the new Mario Party it would be the greatest thing. Yeah, so because I mean we just need a party game that distinguishes. Has itself from what already exists and you know, like Mario party. It's still missing the mark on some parts, but they couldn't take the chance with Animal Crossing make it great. Make it fun. Make it online. Right definitely and then, you know also I was reminded of the to the minigames that were added with the welcome amiibo update in you know, I'm sure there's our Island Escape was already included in a Medieval Festival but imagine that like a more fleshed-out version. I can see that being its own game. It's on downloadable game. They could they could add a lot of features there at some multiplayer online play. I'll be down for that. Yeah and Animal Crossing Survival game. I'm down. Yeah, I love it. Yeah, and the other one, I think it's a little it goes under the radar don't know how many people like possibly or the tetris attack formula from from back in the SNES days. I love it. It's my favorite type of puzzle game in when they added it to what come at me with me and that was so much fun. So I want them to do something like they did for Tetris 99. I want to Battle Royale are Bertrand of that. We play it so much. There you go. Everything's getting a battle royale. Tetris just got it and I think that's opening the floodgates for that for sure. We're getting Animal Crossing Battle Royale Yeah. Well, yeah, I mean there's a lot of cool things that I would love to see happen. But you know, I want to see it happen after we get this man. Yes game thats the caveat there like that's that's all we're waiting for. And yeah, I think that's the main thing for people to understand its that it's time for. Some series to just have new games. That's all we need. Yes, right. So when we get spin-offs after the mainline game is out. The people that have been playing the main line game are going to be interested in the people that skipped it might be interested in the spin-offs and then they all become fans of the main line. I think the same thing happened with pocket Camp a lot. I just I guess just escaping the Wii U really it didn't hurt the series but it heard the timing of the main. Line releases for sure. Yeah, definitely and you know, it's funny because when I made my video I did see some comments from people who knew Leaf was their first game so they didn't they weren't like anticipating the game like we were for three years and so they were just generally unaware that that is how the news Cycles tend to go for Animal Crossing, right? So yeah, it's just I'm glad that we're close to the game and that it's going to change things. I think it's because consistently we've been getting Animal Crossing news every year, but now that we're getting the news that we want. It's going to get better. It's just going to be better. Right? Right. So let's go ahead and hop into Hagen's villager corner for everybody who doesn't know Higgins villager corner. I ask a question to our patreon patrons and They get to answer it and we share it on the show. So this week's question is how did you feel about the recent Nintendo Direct? I had to ask them. Okay, we'll just go back and forth again. So Verity be says I was only watching for Animal Crossing. So I didn't appreciate anything else they were saying until the second watch. There was a lot of anime, which I'm not at all interested in. The only thing I'm interested in is Super Mario maker and the new Zelda. I don't think we got what we deserved in terms of on Animal Crossing. Yeah, I think we're probably going to see these sentiments a lot but the bookends to this direct we're strong. Like I said Mario and Zelda. Those are the Nintendo icons like when you put those both in a direct, especially when you open and you close with them. Yeah, it's kind of hard to get mad at all that middle stuff but it is you know, is she is she is still saying that like we Get Animal Crossing and it's a bummer. Yeah, so yeah, it took a second watching just to appreciate that. It is true. We kind of all agree on that. So the next sensor is by many in the answer is love the captain told you LC love Super Mario maker to love Link's Awakening. That's about it. I'm not that big into anime. So like 70% of the direct was to snore for me. Those are really good games that I mean like another not to Mario and Zelda. Yeah, yeah, definitely and yeah another nod to anime to so grisly Nina says I didn't get to watch the whole direct live and I was absolutely shocked on. My phone wasn't blowing up with Animal Crossing news. This one has really dealt a blow to my self-esteem if feeling pretty down lately. Oh no. Oh, this is so sad. Yeah. It's a bummer to wait for an event for five. It's and then not see what you want to see and then all of a sudden like you just expect to see nothing but good news popping up on your phone. So yeah, it's fine. Yeah, and with the other games analogy, I don't know part of you feels bad that you're not excited. But we understand we understand that we were in it for one thing and we didn't get that thing. So there is this, you know, it's second second watching second discussion type of thing and definitely the next answer. ER is by Les electron and the answer is some good games said we didn't get Animal Crossing news. However, I'm hopeful again for a full Animal Crossing dedicated direct. It's going to happen. I believe it. I'm I'm for it. We need to see the full thing. It's going to when we do finally get to see this game. It's going to blow Minds. It's going to be amazing. It's gonna be so awesome. You know. Yeah, I keep dreaming about it. I know I know he was so close. You know, I'm just gonna go ahead and say my prediction. I think we're gonna get either a dedicated Animal Crossing Direct in May. Or we're going to see the game at E3 either one, you know, I'm kind of hoping that we see it in me. Yeah, I guess the one I will say way back in the day for Animal Crossing happy home designer and amiibo Festival in 2015. We got a lot of really great coverage for those games at E3. There was Nintendo Treehouse segments dedicated to those games each separately to so they each got like really shown off really well. So I do think when we get that it's going to be the coolest thing that we could ever watch. Yes. Yeah, we should probably start planning re three-day event. Yeah. So Sarah says while I was watching the direct with some friends from the Discord I couldn't wait to get through each game. I was so excited to see some Animal Crossing content that I hardly paid attention to the other parts of the direct. Obviously by the end. I was really really disappointed. And I think only caring about the Animal Crossing content contributed to my disappointment as time has passed. I felt better about the direct and the lack of Animal Crossing news, really nothing has changed and no news is better than bad news watching Sergio's video really helped me as well and reminded me that we have a lot to be excited for this year. And yeah, I feel like I've seen the sentiment a lot for your video Sergio. But yeah, you really came in and saved. Of the day for everyone. I think just what you had to say was like, let's just be excited because it's going to it's going to happen, you know. Yeah, so and it just increases the chances of the next time the next event having Animal Crossing content. It's exponentially grows the chances so it has to happen next time. Definitely. Next. We have the answer by tap. The answer is very disappointed. I was so sure we would see it get a released. Time frame and get a title sir. Just encouraging video did make me feel a little better. Thank you so much. The game is still coming and we still have it to look forward to even though we didn't get to see it. As soon as we want it. At least I'm no longer constantly anticipating and looking for a direct announcement for the time being since we just had one that's true. We're going to be coming down a little bit in not checking Twitter first thing in the morning every day. I mean, I won't I will probably still do that. At but I won't do it with the thought that like, oh, there's going to be a direct announced at any moment. Now, you know, right right so but yeah it is we're going to have a little break for a little while and we might as well just get excited for the next time. Yes infinite Mallet says, of course, I was disappointed that Animal Crossing didn't show up in the direct regarding the things that actually were in the direct I grew up as a big fan of RPGs and it seems like the switch is becoming Home for that genre. So I'm happy about that. I'm staying positive and hoping that we'll get an animal crossing specific direct before E3. So yeah, I mean, I I mentioned I'm a fan of RPGs. So I kind of liked a lot of the stuff that was shown off. I understand why it wasn't for everybody. But yeah, it would be cool to see an animal crossing specific direct before E3. I would not mind at all. Yeah. Yeah. I kind of see that now a lot actually Lie, because they would they would get probably the release month out of the way be of the direct and then they can say this game is going to be part of our you tree showcase a big part. Look forward to it mostly on the Treehouse events. I just see in the yeah, I would expect it to be a big part of the III showcase. I'm expecting to be at this point. I think it's going to show up at E3 regardless of if it's announced before announced at E3 or Guess shown off at this point. But yeah, I think at this point in time, we're going to get really good III coverage for the game. Yes. Yes. Definitely. The next answer is by Grace or a penguin named Abraham. Honestly, I'm not too bummed about it. I was only watching for Animal Crossing but we did get some great announcements that I feel they didn't focus on Fire Emblem too much. Also the Yoshi demo is super fun and cute. But yeah, I'm still feeling pretty optimistic. Optimistic now that we know that Animal Crossing is coming is just a matter of waiting to learn more and I can deal with that certainly a lot more than I could deal with waiting for news that year and it's not like we're alone people are still waiting for news on Pokemon in Luigi's Mansion. Whenever anything that wants to show us the game is probably the best times for us to see it. Yeah, it's true. He's definitely and I've been suspicious about Animal Crossing being at the end of the year. And for me it was mostly confirmed because we didn't see two other big games that could be slated for the end of the year, you know. Well we know Pokemon is late 2019 and see only one that has been labeled as late 2019, you know. Yeah, so Luigi's Mansion. I think everybody's been expecting an October release for that one. And so Yeah, just those two games weren't mentioned alongside Animal Crossing seems to be pushing my thoughts that it's going to be late. 2019. Yeah. Yeah, and those lame ones that are getting that are starting to look a little crowded already. That's that's kind of when I want to see cell died in September before everything gets jumbled into the last three months, you know. Yeah, you're right. We're not going to care about any other games once Animal Crossing is out. So at me says sure it was pointing at the time but looking back on it. It wasn't that bad. I'm super excited for Mario maker to Link's Awakening and finally getting a chance to try that Rune Factory series still I was so sure that they had to show something about Animal Crossing after all it's been five months since the announcement and isn't it one of their best-selling series pretty disappointing, but now I'm just excited for the next direct this time for sure this time for sure. Yeah, that's how I feel. Like I'm just like come on you guys you really you gotta say something you show us a trailer. It doesn't matter if it's coming out in I don't know the end of the year. Just we want to see it. Yeah. Yeah, you're saying 2019 shows show the proof Chef some proof. Yeah, and I was learning a little bit about Rune Factory. I guess the people who worked on Harvest Moon also made Rune Factory. So yes, I it sounds cool. It's I'm interested. Ed. Oh nice the next answer is by dragon and he says I think it was a pretty good direct. Obviously. No Animal Crossing news is a bummer. But the way the book ended with Mario maker to in Link's Awakening with several other notable things in between. I was pretty happy with this as it is Animal Crossing fans will get their time in the sun soon. I'm sure but there's a lot of other great stuff to look forward to as well. Yeah, and like I said, I'm going to be very busy playing a bunch of fun games while we wait for that. Yeah, and you know, hopefully I'm pretty sure at least these two should be coming out before Animal Crossing. Yeah, that's definitely that could be the case at least Mario Maker for sure is yes at this point in time. We just don't know Trevor GT says I honestly like they I honestly felt like they supplied us with so much filler and not much substance. Students not even with the bias of being an animal crossing fan there wasn't much information at all for big titles that are coming this year. Even for a fire emblem. I felt like we just got a backstory and none of what will be new or the playstyle to make a long story a long story long. I think they gave us all this filler because we're begging for a direct kind of see it as a power play to continue to build hype and still have hope for news in the future. Oh, yeah, it sounds like Trevor was not impressed with what they showed and you know, that's fair. I think Animal Crossing fans. They I've said this for a long time, but I feel like it draws in a demographic of Gamers who want something different out of the switch and that's why I feel like it sells consoles because people who want to play Animal Crossing like they want to play it. It's a major game for them. And so yeah, it's a lot of what they showed just Him for everybody, you know. Yeah and I think a big part of it also is if they really want to stick to that rule that the only want to show games that are coming out soon. I'm all for that as long as they do keep that promise. So, you know, then that just means that the next time they show more games it's going to be the ones that we want to see or the ones that most people want to see and us to like more details on Pokemon Luigi's Mansion in of course Animal Crossing. So, let's see if Nintendo sticks with that this time. Yeah for sure. Sure. Our last answer is by cyborg hero and he says I was initially pretty disappointed now. It's just all right, so much stuff. I liked a lot I didn't care about it was fine. Yep, and that sums it up like, you know, everything in a direct is not going to be your cup of tea. And unless you're like, I don't know Dragon who plays every single thing. But yeah, but the Some other things that you are excited about, that's nice. I think that's nice. There has to be a little bit of something for everybody and each direct, you know, yes in this gives us more a couple more months to play games that are we're playing or that are going to be coming out because as soon as Animal Crossing drops a lot of things that are going to stop in we're going to be happy about it. So let's make the most out of these months of quote-unquote piece. Yeah. Let's just do it. Let's keep waiting. So thank you all so much for listening. If you want to be part of the conversation on all things Animal Crossing, please join our Discord. It's been growing like crazy. I have a link in the description of this podcast. It's totally free to join. You don't have to be a patron and if you do join you can get Sergio on my friend codes and a whole lot of people to hang out with and talk about Animal Crossing. If you do want to become a patron, please visit patreon.com chewy place in tendo for just $1. 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Today, we're recovering from the Nintendo Direct. Both Sergio and I were expecting some major news for Animal Crossing Switch but were left with nothing. Not a single trailer, no mention of the game whatsoever. So we talk a bit about the direct, how we felt while watching and how we feel about it now. We also talk about some reasons as to why Animal Crossing isn't talked about very often by Nintendo. After that, we get into Animal Crossing Spin Offs and their future role in the franchise. We're both fans of mainline Animal Crossing games but agree that Nintendo should continue to pump out other Animal Crossing games. Finally, we end the show by getting our Patron's thoughts on the direct. 