Hey, I'm Dustin and I'm Steve welcome back listeners to the finest photo tainment in the world. That's right. You're listening to the best photography podcast another episode of the wedding photo hangover. We're in a reverent look at photography this podcast like aspirin will help you recover from yourWedding hangover doesn't but you know, what's not going to help people recover from from wedding hangover, you know, just any hangover of any sort. What's that? See apparently sending out emails telling people to Mark Mark their calendars for this weekend because it's Tupac Shakur's birthday. I thought I thought this was a big weekend. I thought this I was all that. Yep. Just checking my invite list of things. I've been invited.You this weekend? Yeah Tupac's birthday. Is this weekend? Did you read about this? Did you see this? So this this guy a six 65 year old government employee in Iowa. He was the DHS director in Iowa and he was fired by the governor of Iowa because because he sent out too many emails with inspirational quotes from Tupac and apparently the icing on the cake was when he sent out an email saying mark your calendars, it's too Fox birthday to 4,300 government employees in the the picture of him with the white hair and the glasses. That's him. Let's reel him. That's not like a face app swap make somebody look old. He's actually a 65-year old dude who just thinks Tupac is the greatest could this be like one of those situations where he's actually somebody else living in this guy's body. He's actually Tupac. You didn't know that there you go. That's the answer Stephen. Yeah, so Jerry Fox of and was fired for for being too into to I'm sorry. This is just like that my favorite thing I've read recently and you know what they made a mistake Jerry Fox oven should have been promoted. He should not have been fired. You can't like Tupac too much. I just want to I just want to be a fly on the wall. His next job interview when they're saying so so Jerry. Was it Jerry? Mmm-hmm? Yeah. So Jerry, I see that your tenure at the Iowa Department of Human Services ended rather abruptly. Can he it can you explain to me what happened there? And he's just like Haters gonna hate but I just love my boy 2 pi too much and apparently the good folks in Iowa. Don't agree with my music selection. You mean like how does he spin that in his favor? I don't know what to tell you. I don't know what to tell you. Do. You think he's a internet sensation now, so really he can, you know, go into the music industry. Probably I think about all the exposure he's got from this. Well, I mean, it's Rich. It's so rich with exposure. Do you think we Governor Reynolds went into him to fire him? He was like, I'm sorry, but It's time for we the people to start making some changes Steven speaking of changes. You just got back listeners might not realize this but we were actually on a two-week Hiatus while Steven traveled the world and by the world I mean, Wisconsin, how was your trip Steve? You look rested you look well and in tan to right you can see the tan. The shades there, you know, I just figured you turned a warmer lamp on. That I did that I did that. It was mostly that. Actually. It's actually a UV lamp the the doctor prescribed to me. So I wouldn't look so pale anymore. Okay. He thought I could really brighten up my smile bring a little life back to my dead eyes. It's it burns the working. Yeah could be working. Yeah. So how was that all that water parking and Wisconsin needing get a lot of cheese in you know up those veins. Surprisingly this year like pastures of always stopped like a cheese shop because that's what Wisconsin's known for and this year we decided not to do that Dustin. Wow, but we did make the mistake and it was a glorious mistake of going to a local restaurant ordering food not realizing all the food there came smothered and Monterey Jack cheese sauce. Hmm sounds amazing. I was that a mistake. So I got like a hamburger smothered in Monterey Jack cheese sauce with cheese curds. On it. Oh, yeah, and if the place was a Distillery and so they called it like they're like they're bourbon burger or something. So I was expecting like a bourbon sauce, but now there's nothing like that. It was just a lot of cheese. Now, you know what their Bourbons made of just straight cheese just they wanted to open a restaurant but figure they needed to be a Distillery first. Yeah. Yeah, it is is a great trip, you know, I took Jane. An out for her birthday and I'm Margarita and taco tour of Wisconsin Dells. You know, Mexican food is probably not something the Dells are, you know typically associated with but I don't know there's this Taco chain, I believe in New York called Del Taco. Maybe there's a correlation there dude. If there'd been a Del Taco in Wisconsin. I would have hit that up when Jen and I went to California. We got off the airplane tried to go. Like a local restaurant near the airport because we're both just famished restaurant was closed tried to go to a different restaurant that restaurant had a two-hour wait and we just happened to see a Del Taco then we're both just ago famished and we're about an hour away from we're going to Ulysses house the first night where there Ulysses Del Toro the wedding photo podcast, and I think I've heard of him. We stopped to the Del Taco. There you go. So good so so much better than I remember they used to have Del Tacos in Indiana and they're all gone. Really? Yeah. Yeah, I had no idea. Yeah, there's one up in South Bend. I figured it was only in Wisconsin. No, it's not even in Wisconsin anymore. They took the whole chain and just move to California. I think I've seen him in New Jersey really we just want to compete with in and out. That's all that's all that's it. It's done. So it's a good trip you go again. Oh, I am have gotten the last three years fan. It must be a good trip then Steve. Just my mom bought. Timeshare in this is the closest place to her that is part of that timeshare and are all of her grandchildren say it's the most fun vacation that go on every year so she has no incentive to try any other places out. But I mean, you know before when we went on vacations with her before she found, you know, this Wisconsin Dells one, we went to, you know, great places like Disney Myrtle Beach Vegas Wing Fort Wayne now another great was there's no Vacation stuffing for you Wayne oddly. Yeah, it's actually more vacation stuff in Muncie than there is in Fort Wayne. It's weird. We should start a timeshare in Fort Wayne. Yeah. I don't know. Why would I mean there's all those lovely condos and in Muncie So speaking of needing to drink what might you be thinking of needing to drink. What is the great Steven Van Elk sipping on tonight? Tonight death and I am joy in enjoying a fathom IPA from Ballast Point Brewing Company. Mmm. So Levi had a beverage there while I was in San Diego with mr. Ulysses Del Toro. No, I didn't tell you this Jen and I went there on Father's Day. Left left the kids back in Indiana and on Father's Day treated treated myself to balance point. I went to the brewery. I tried like five or six of their beers is awesome. All we get out here for the most part is well now we get fat of my PA, but before all we got was like the scope and stuff and I've never been a huge fan of sculpin but a lot of their other peers are real good and the span of my PA is great, too. I enjoyed what I had. I don't remember what it was but It was a dark beer. Mmm, you like dark beers. So every now and then doesn't what are you drinking tonight tonight? Stephen. I am drinking something a little different. Jamocha tank a little you shake his the did you focus on your work until then a car accident? You told me when you work late you like to have a gym locker shake. This is like an episode or two ago. I was working late. So here in Fort Wayne Indiana where all the great people live the best people It's where everybody goes on vacation here in Indiana. Yeah, there's a lot of condos attached to strip clubs almost as good as Santa Claus Indiana, but we have this Festival every year and it happens to be this week. I always get that couple who wants to do engagement photos during the festival is this why you've had in our show notes for like the last two years this running thing of like, how do you find parking at a festival when you're doing a photo shoot there that leave Never talked about because it seems so incredibly bad could be it today. It seems so much like it doesn't apply to anyone else nor its you. Literally the only week of the year where our downtown becomes like mass chaos, but they bring in like all those like cheesy Carney rides, they block off streets and it's like a week-long thing here in Fort Wayne and Genesis shot up. Wedding two years ago in Fort Wayne. Yes, you did during that addressed all yeah. Yeah. That was yeah. It was a fun time. Yeah. It's literally the highlight of the year in Fort Wayne parking is really easy to find though. I don't know so I am drinking tonight Stephen is I am drinking a lemon shake-up. Oh just a little little bit of vodka in it a little bit or a lot of that tone it down put it. It depends on how much I shook it up. You probably have vodka in your house. So you get a little more. If you need a little pep in your step a little pep in your step. I mean a little slurring your speech a litter a little trip in your step. Yeah, but yeah, that is what I'm drinking a good old spikes lemon shake-up. I like it. I love it. You guys have festivals in Noblesville. Oh, yeah, dude, we were at a festival the other week and Noblesville and we he bought tickets to go on some sort of train ride because Is like a train in Noblesville? I asked our shrimp broke down and train broke down and broke down after Jen and I missed it because we got there late. So the train broke down it didn't have any air conditioning and you couldn't get off the train and they had to it got towed back to the place where the festival is going on and it took them like 20 minutes to get it towed back during which time it was a thing like 95 that day and it felt like as like a hundred and five or something ridiculous like that. Those people just like sweating like crazy and just dying. I assume man and we missed it. Thanks to be in daylight. Yeah last year. I think we went to the festival maybe once this year including this engagement session. I will have been three times nice taking the kids taking the kids Twice first time we went we got this macaroni and cheese thing and we all got sick nice. I like it. I like a lot of mac and cheese in Wisconsin. I don't know if you know this, but they're kind of known for cheese up there. Yeah. Apparently these guys should take some It's because whatever they put in their cheese was instantly gotten rid of to Jen doesn't like Jen's not a fan of poutine, you know, you know, what poutine is like fries with gravy and cheese curds and I'm not a big fan of it either, you know, it's delicious and you should both be fans of it. But while we were in Wisconsin that place I got like the burgers smothered in the Monterey Jack cheese and stuff. She got tater tots mac and cheese tater tots and they come on. Out and its back its tater tots with like that Monterey Jack cheese cheese curds mac and cheese like this the most terrible thing for you. I could ever think of and it basically was like almost exactly like poutine just - - the the gravy is more of a cheese gravy which is the part. I don't like. Oh, no, dude, you've had bad poutine then you can get real good poutine. There's a there used to be a place in Muncie the did poutine real. Well, it's just like Fries cooked in duck fat and like bacon grease our bacon gravy on top of them man is so good. Sounds like diabetes. It wasn't sugar gravy. This candy fries and like a heart attack there. Yeah. It was a heart attack. Yeah, that's that's what Wisconsin is known for heart attacks. Gotcha. Yeah. Thank you for smoking. Come on. Do we have any follow-up trademark John Syracuse a yes we do. Doesn't remember last week we talked about the influencer 55,000 followers. Just trying to get a documentary made about their wedding for free as they should. Yeah. And and the the guy wrote back and is very funny email basically saying, I'm sorry. Did you miss like a zero when you said 55,000 because usually when people ask us for free stuff, they have a lot more followers and that's not really a lot. Well the influencers agent if the influencer has an agent didn't like this response that she got from this from this guy. What's his name? I should look it up Frankie low bring kilo of betroth betrothed and Co and the influencers manager wrote back and said frankly my client and I find that kind of unprofessional email appalling and we will no longer be considering you as contenders to shoot. What would have been a very lucrative wedding for you. It would have been a great opportunity for you to network with other social media influencers and some celebrities who will be making TV appearances later in the year on top of that. We have had other businesses reply to us with additional offers of goods and service. Basically paying us to work with them rather than giving us a load of and then she uses a racially charged slur gy P never heard that it's it's racist against Gypsies. And yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's not good. So rather than giving us a load of let's just say shite instead like what you have. And then the person continues and said this wedding is really important to my client as her mother has been diagnosed with cancer and it's really unfair of you to be so mean when you could have just said no politely, please don't email again as we will have to name and shame you if you continue with this abuse what's funny is that they have enough time on their hands to respond to the people in general. Well, yeah. Probably not. There's probably no manager is probably just the influencer pretending to be their own manager. So they seem more important and that's a genius idea. Hold on Steve one second. Don't don't hold on one second. This is so stupid. You're on with Dustin's manager. He ran to get another lemon shake-up. It'll be right back. Is this different than the person from Big Burrito who responsive emails the the female adults. You must be steered one side. He's coming right back. Excuse me. Here he is. Oh, thank you. Sorry about that. Sorry Steve. Where are you? Sam it puts Barney Frank onto your lemon shake-up. Yep. Yep, just a little little little tip. You know what? I mean? Yeah. So Frankie low from betrayals and cow then sent back another email after being told. not too because of the whole naming and shaming thing which is kind of like, well, he already had, you know sent this original email out and told everybody who he was so I don't think he's afraid of being shamed and basically offers sarcastic apologies for everything that happened criticizes the writer of the email for getting so much wrong with the grammar and in her email and also calls her out and says man says secondly apologies if our fourth right attitude means we forfeited the opportunity of networking with celebrities who will be on TV later this year or in non PR speak people who have never been on TV which which I loved. Yeah, then he also called her out for the racist remark. Pointing out that while he was not abusive in his email to her that is actually, you know an abusive term to use and then, you know apologizes for the fact that he didn't know that the clients mother had cancer and also mentions that it's kind of weird that you know, the original email didn't lead with that since that is something like if you know, somebody has a terminal illness a lot of times people would offer free services if they knew that. Though ya know is a great do they write back? No, right bad side. No right backs after that. Even you must keep us apprised of this story as it unfolds. I'm going to be emailing Frankie just up down all over. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah another 100 Steve one one commenter on the article, which was on 9gag. Whose name is Kathy. I think mentioned the purchase. the person never mentioned in the email that they say it's very important to the clients mother who's suffering from cancer to be at the wedding but still they're not getting married for another two years, which is a great point to you know, just threw out there like hey this thing of my mother having, you know in terminal cancer that was real then, you know, maybe you'd be getting married a lot sooner sounds like you need to start stretching that Influential muscle you got there Steve. Yeah, I got to get out there and got it. Got to get the brand out there. Hmm. So sure desson. Let's move into topics you you posted a topic to to the shots this week. What doesn't what do you want to talk about Buddy? Well, I shot I saw this story come across the news desk where you were on vacation and it was just it's probably a little dated now, but I felt like speaking of mac and cheese and your Delight in Wisconsin that this was irrelevant relevant article to what we here at the wedding photo hangover stand for and that is wedding guests evacuating a reception after a drunk woman shits herself. The Dancefloor tell me more go on go on. Apparently I was really hoping there would be pictures but there that was not pictures. So you added this to action us, but you had an actually read the article yet. I love this. I love this. Keep going. Keep going. Guests name was Liz. She got plastered at a wedding about about the time. The the toasts were happening guess commented that she was talking loudly through all the speeches and when she got to the dance floor She was like a rhino with cannonballs of red wine. Like I should poetry I love that part is another type of all right later became to trying to dance while bumping into People and double-fisting cups of red wine above her head. She kept screaming that she didn't have her kids so she could party on just want to picture two visual of you doing that. Anyway, here here are some more poetry from the thing so you can picture it. She was absolutely covered in red wine. She had it all over her dress even on the back. It literally looked like she took a Cabernet shower. This Rider is quite poetic of that file of this. This is a fantastic thing that I got to read. I'm so I'm so happy that you shared this with me Destin but the best part the kicker she got so drunk that she shit herself on the dance floor and everyone evacuated because it smelled so bad. So I just want to preface this though if this shit did Stink would people not have Evacuate the Dancefloor would they just kind of like danced around it and makes it seem that the smell aspect was the horrific War. I think what year did sell dumpling so bad. Is she shit herself on the dance floor and it sounds like you're thinking like she pulled down her pants or dress pulled up her dress and drawn here and took a dump. I would pause it. It from the sound of this, you know this article that it sounds like maybe even her undergrad it stayed in her undergarments and and she just kept dancing in the stank just started walking around. Yeah, and she was too drunk to realize that she had done it this fight. You got to have a bouncer at your wedding, you know, I'm talking about. Where was I couldn't find in the article where the wedding was hmm, Noblesville, Indiana right there. That'd be great. I wish I don't think they say. Let's just say it was in Toronto then right? That's where all the best wedding stories like this come from. That's why Lisa and Rebecca got their start doing Secret Life of weddings because they're from Toronto. So that's right. That's right. Anywho, so that's my that's the only thing I really wanted to talk about. I mean, it's not like there was any big gear announcements while you were gone. Yeah, it's been pretty quiet. I think we can just shut down the podcast then right? No, no, no gear announcements at all. Definitely. Definitely. No Sony was pretty pretty quiet this week. They didn't announce anything that Jay. I was quiet this week a lot of megapixels. Yeah, Sigma was very quiet this week. Yep moment was quiet this week. Yeah most I think probably honestly Stephen the reason all of these companies were so quiet is they were too busy gaming and preparing and stocking up for Amazon Prime day days and something happened during Amazon Prime XI by anything ask anything on Amazon Prime day sighs on vacation. I didn't even check my email. I almost got suckered into some Bose headphones. They're like you already had Bose headphones. I one man cannot have enough Bose headphones in their lives. You got noise canceling Bose headphones. I know but every time I go on a flight and I see somebody with the Bluetooth version because I have the old ones that still required to be plugged in like a freaking peasant. And then I see those blue to I see him like strap those on as they're walking down the you know the gate and just put all their stuff away not have to flick wires as you're trying to buckle your seatbelt or you know, try to put your iPad in its Center Council and then you got to lift your tray table up and then your core to your headphones is jerking your head forward person next to you gets caught up in your cord when they're buckling their seatbelt. Now, you've got a neck cramp. It's just it's a whole thing Steve. It's a whole thing. Sounds like it. So anyways, I saw an opportunity to perhaps get some Bluetooth ones then I realized Bose has great marketing genius when it came to the sale and they have ones that looked just like the noise canceling ones that just aren't noise canceling. And yeah, you could buy a noise cancelling set of headphones from a different company a different brand doesn't have to be buzzed. I'm a little bit loyal Steve. I'm a loyalist. Mmm a brand loyalists when it comes to my audio gear. When it comes to your audio gear around my ears your gear my ear hear all about that. But yes you I didn't know if maybe if you / took and perhaps like one too. They were running some crazy specials $100 for some photo related gear to take advantage of any of that didn't even know what happened until it's too late. I even have to like a slick deals alert set up to let me know when there are great deals on. Canon gear and stuff so I would have thought I would have gotten you know an alert about it, but nope how long so for those of you out there listening that live under a rock Amazon had a glitch in their system during their Prime days and had some incredible savings on some very expensive camera equipment including the Canon EOS are the Sony a nine and what looks to me. E to be like at Cannon like 500 millimeter lens or something like that. Yeah. It's a $13,000 lens apparently and you could buy under will over $100 on Prime day cheese. Yeah, so apparently Amazon realized what was going on and shut down people's accounts who are trying to buy like a bunch of stuff for $100. Like I think temporarily shutting tx-102 and somebody so somebody at Amazon caught it but they didn't catch it before a bunch of stuff at already, you know shipped because of how fast Amazon is at, you know meeting the orders and sending stuff out so Stuff that probably never have gotten it. Yeah stuff that already shipped, you know, people just got it and now they paid a hundred dollars for $13,000 lens. Which they could immediately turn around and sell for what doesn't 9000. Is that what you have said somebody got somebody got the eight. It was not just an a 9 it was an 89 bundle with a 24 to 70 damn for $95 out of an awesome. Somebody got an A7 body for $95. Somebody bought to a 65 hundredths and then one a 7 3 Jus with a 16 to 24 or something like that. For $100 then saw I was also being used for like Canon and Nikon stuff as well started loading Canon and Nikon gear up into their cart and that's when their account was shut down by Amazon for suspicious Behavior. I was just reading that and I was like, how would you like to be that guy? Who's like fuck? I didn't why don't I just pull the trigger on the A9? Why did I start with a 65 hundredths? Yeah the huge mistake. I mean, I don't feel like there's much to talk about here. This is this isn't much a story. Some people got a great deal windfall deal and most people think of us are just depressed now. Yep survivors me if I'd seen it. I don't know that I would have even bought it I would have just been like this can't be real. There's there's something weird going on here and I feel like some third party company is going to steal my money. Because third-party companies can still do terrible stuff on Amazon. So yeah this same I ran into a glitch like this once before. I don't know if I shared this on the podcast, but I ran into a glitch like this on Urban Outfitters website where somebody was actually kind enough to share the glitch with me and then like with this this glitch with Amazon, correct, correct, and I was able to take advantage of it. And I bought a hundred cameras and Urban Outfitters. It was the Fuji like Polaroid cameras. Okay, or I guess it was a Fuji was just Polaroid and what you doing? Remember sold them on eBay ice. Yeah, one of our friends our Grooms wanted to buy them to put on the tables for wedding gifts and then you realize how expensive they were and so he was going to get them as groomsmen gifts. And then he went to add them to his car and he realized that if you bun like if you put the film for it in the cart the price of the camera itself disappeared from the cart. So you're just paying for the film. And so he bought like 10 cameras and then he went and did it again and bought 10 more and just kept repeating the process and then I was having lunch with him later that day and he was telling me about this is crazy Destin. So what is Dustin do he goes and buys a hundred of them? And then I find out later I find out later that the glitch Works with anything you added to your cart because when he got to work after lunch she told of course everyone that he worked with because he's an idiot. And yeah, so then everybody I mean people were getting mowed not motorcycles but like their little scooters like leather couches. I mean some of the large items that home good or Urban Outfitter cells via their website and so most of their orders got cancelled but a few people did receive thinks it was the Jersey things usually hundred 100 cameras. Yeah speaking of cameras I-70 dropped to 87 are for announcement. Well, I know a lot of people in the video space where a little like, I mean, we're still waiting on that 87's three guys, and you're already jumping to the four on the our series. People are wondering if it's just can't handle the overheating with this with the S Series but what the rumor Mills are spitting out but but from everything I read about this are for it seems like a really solid camera sounds like it does video better than the a7s. So who cares if they never come out with another a7s, right? Well, I mean You don't really need 61 megapixels. It's a bit overkill for what we do. Are you taking photos of this? Are you doing video with this? Well, why don't you walk us through what makes it such a good video camera other than incredible autofocus as an incredible autofocus. So, okay. Yeah. Oh no. It's get your two card slots. It does. So does that mean you're switching? No. Okay. I'm too invested into the 5D Mark four series. Can't even go mirrorless with Cannon to which is really make a big deal about the I focus for animals and I don't shoot animals and I didn't realize there was such a large sector of photographers that were being neglected with their autofocus capabilities because they didn't focus on animals. so what I say seven are for do The camera is 61 megapixels who cares who's ever going to use 61 megapixels? I don't know somebody like James Kelly who shoots Landscapes. Yeah, I guess as a wedding photographer. Do you see any need for this? Do you see any use for 60-point megapixels? Well, and I so I think the argument is constantly made like wow 61 megapixels means the image is going to be huge but also with 61 Comes a tremendous amount of information in your files. So oftentimes the the richness in the editability of your files becomes borderline what you would get in like a medium format type situation. So I think back from when I shot with a Nikon d3x, which was Nikon's like big megapixel camera back in the day. I always felt like those Those files were just like that the amount of dynamic range I could pull out of those was regardless of the file size was just so much more in that kind of speaks true of this Sony. The dynamic range is supposed to be nuts in these files think someone said like ten stops or 15 stops or something just bananas. The survey's I read about the a7r for said it was basically the same image quality is a 7-3 or they 7r3, but it's just so much better for the autofocus. The I feel like that's that's the real killer thing. There is the eye autofocus the real time I autofocus for video. I don't know why you told me I couldn't talk about that. That's the only thing worth talking about. Yeah. I know that's why I didn't really feel like it was a huge leap forward by any means it is a huge leap forward the I auto focus during in real time while you're shooting videos a huge leap forward. Yeah, but I thought I thought I read somewhere and feel free to ride in if I'm wrong. On care that they're going to be releasing a firmware update to do this with the A7 3. I've not read anything like that. So Stephen, are you buying this and then partnering part pairing it with your new Ronin SC? Doesn't that seem like a great idea so DJ? I just released a new Ronan which is like there. It's like they're gimbal for like shooting video. It's like a one-handed. It's through a gimbal that's not meant for shooting video. You can do time lapse photography Panorama is other stuff with it. You don't just have to shoot video Destin. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, there's there's a lot of stuff out there doesn't have you you you Varon until you know, I have as I Hyun crane to I have seen green Tail as well as well. So yeah. No, I mean I use looks awesome today. Did you have you ever you ever used yours if you sit several times? Thank you Dustin. I just don't use it with you because you always hire like to other people who are going to be on gimbals all. All day and it's like gimbal Wars. You shouldn't you shouldn't have everything on a gimbal all day long. You should have a range in a variety of different shots. Have you ever watched a movie? You'll notice not every single shot shot on a Steadicam just rocking around the people doing circles and all sorts of weird crazy shit most of the time they're doing shots on tripods when you're making a wedding film. Maybe you know, think about like hey and like movie studios would they do a gimbal shot for every single shot all day long? The answer is no then why would you be doing that for your wedding film? Just throwing that out there just throwing it out there because I see a lot of these wedding films where it's like I'm on a gimbal all day. Every single shot is basically spinning around a person or like a tracking movement shot. It's like you never let like the the bride and groom move into and out of the frame, but just because you're on a gimbal doesn't mean you have to move you don't have to but I'm just saying what I see just saying what I see out there in the real. Real world. So the new Ronan SE has like a cool thing where you can like hook your phone up to the top. So you can use your phone to track focus on people by like basically drawing a box with your finger like one corner to the other, you know, but my question was does it track when that person is moving? Yes, I would like to see that reviewed that aspect because that seemed interesting to me. So I mean essentially it's an Graded baguette stripped down version of the original Ronin s has it stripped down strip it strip it down for me baby. It's lighter. It's designed for a lighter payload. So it's meant purely for mirrorless cameras. Whereas the Ronin s can put like your Blackmagic Cinema cameras your bigger like one DX's things like that. You're more Pro body the video camera and it just like mirror. Lists can be honest. Yeah. Yep, even like a big like a heavy lens on a mirrorless would maybe make this thing really struggle. But if you're going to use a prime lens and a lightweight Sony or G H5, this thing would really really be for you. I'm thinking about getting one because my eyes I Hyun has been giving me some troubles and you want to put like a big lens on it because you kind of like to see it struggle. Right. No, I just my widest lens is my 24 to 70 and I really don't feel like spending the money to get a 35 and but sometimes like you just want like a real big one, right? I always want the biggest one. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. So are you going to get one of these Steve here with your sihyun now? No, I'm good. I would have to book a lot more video stuff and it's just not in the cards right now. I wasn't I would love to start doing more video work. That's you know, just say the word man. I'm just shooting every freaking day seems like it's crazy. Fly me up to Fort Wayne. Well, I have too far away business class. I was telling me I was telling the couple today at my engagement session at the carnival. They were doing helicopter rides and about an hour before the session a couple a square at the carnival. We wanted to meet and I wish I'd had the audacity to say. Oh meet you know where the helicopter rides were but like get in the helicopter ride time it just right and land in the helicopter and just like I'm here like I just landed. You know like that never whatever works never and they would have seen you landed me like he paid to go on a helicopter ride. They would have been like he flew here in his helicopter. Yes. Really? What is this? Idiot doing but in my mind, that's how I would have felt I would have thought it would have gone. I would have been like, oh God. I feel like a badass. I just landed in downtown Fort Wayne and a helicopter with a camera. I feel like a badass. I just landed in downtown, Fort Wayne. Words have never been said before never see when you strip away the comments to even analyze them bit by bit takes it all out of proportion. So doesn't speaking about cool cool new gear would what do you think about the sigma Sigma releasing the smallest full frame camera to date speak? They should just stick to lenses me too. It kind of reminds me like the the look of it and the giant touchscreen and everything on the back of the yongnuo camera that was announced which came out and was apparently just white hot garbage. No, was it? Yeah. Yeah, like the actual like photos it took Roque, but it was like the touchscreen because everything was a touchscreen into have like, you know. Buttons to like buttons do stuff and apparently like it's just like the whatever the software was they use some some strip down thing of Android. I'm guessing, you know just didn't work well and just it made everything really tough and I heard didn't it struggled real hard and low light to so I would hope Sigma would do a better job, but I don't know that this is actually going to be any better. It is the words of Allah Full-frame mirrorless camera though, but that's kind of cool. I guess it looks like it's like the size of maybe a Sony a 6500 maybe yeah. And I mean that's just really small. It's like, you know you do you want something really small in hand or do you want something large and hand? I mean I don't like to put things in my hands, but Stephen you you're really into putting things in your hands. So yeah assume you want something really large a lot of girth to it in your hands. Well, you know, I want to know till my mouth if I put it in and I just don't know that this one. He went all the way in with that one Dustin. Do you want to head over to the drone zone? Welcome to the drones. Oh, man, this kind of takes. I can't fly a helicopter. Obviously. I must fly a drone. So without further Ado Let's cross over into the drone zone. You know flying in a helicopter a million times better than flying a drone. You know, I'm just gonna throw that out there. You just don't jump on the microphone and you just say to the pilot and you're like, hey fly me over there. I need to shoot this thing. And then you tell the pilot to do in the pilots like a professional pilot who does this for a living and they just fly you over and they do whatever it is and you just shoot the whole time. You're not worried about hitting power lines hitting Spider-Man. You know, you're just you're just getting the shot. You just get in the shot, but you would probably need a gimbal. Like a ronin SC know, I've never I've shot out of a helicopter before I didn't use it video game. Oh, yeah just handheld out of a helicopter. Yeah and helicopter with no doors sounds fun. Yeah, they just loosen the seatbelt so I could lean on the side sounds super safe. It's so much fun the best experience I've ever had shooting video period hands down. Drones just don't compare but this new moment are Kickstarter thing. Yeah, do you want to tell us a little bit more about that? I mean this is combining kickstarter's and drones. That's like your things. This is this is a this is made for you. So yeah the for those of you out there who aren't familiar moment is yeah, for those of you out there who aren't familiar Dustin is a person who invests a lot of money into things on Kickstarter that will never get shipped in never arrived. So basically if Dustin gives any money to this it guarantees that moment will never actually ship this thing. That's why I'm not buying it. I'm sorry Dustin. Did you want to talk about the moment ring though? Sure. I just wanted to set the stage for everybody listening. So moment is a company that designed a lens filter case situation for iPhones a couple years back. Back and had just a myriad of success with that. And so with the mobility of drones they thought why not go back to the drawing board and design the same lens we did for the iPhone that gives you that anamorphic lens look with the really great flare for the Drone. And so that's what they did and it's only for the mavic series, but it looks really cool. Well, unfortunately, I just don't shoot enough video with my drone. I do more Stills with mine to make it really really worth it for me, but I would love Steven to buy it when it comes out and you know review it and let me know how it is. Yeah, that sounds like something that will definitely not happen. So man. That's great. Hmm. I thought so is the the moment are Kickstarter. Is it for a specific drown Dustin? I said the mavic just for the madness. Yeah, but is it for the the pro or the zoom I said it could be used with either really I thought that's what I read at least. Now you're me second guessing my it so you can't use it with your beloved Phantoms know which I think I'm going to sell the Phantom's are now Phantoms are going the way the dinosaur. It's all about those Mavericks. Now, you know, what's going to happen next? I says mavic to Pro and zoom, you know, what's going to happen next us and they're going to throw out those Mavericks and it's going to be all about that DJI Spark All about that spark spark. Yes, but yeah, they gotta get those drones even tinier even smaller. Yeah, it's funny as I saw this announcement and I immediately thought of my friend Luke who shoots wedding videos and does a lot of stuff with drones in his wedding videos. And I thought man this would be right up his alley and then I realized he sold his mavic and got the Phantom. Well, not so much. He got the Phantom. He got his old Phantom. Next because he crashed it into a tree. And I said I have it before and it was fine afterwards. Yeah, I know. I told him she'd kept the mafic man. What a huge mistake. Yeah. Yeah, but I think I'm going to sell my Phantom this week or next whenever I have a free second to take some pictures of it. We're like eight batteries for it. Any interest e, nope. It's want to add a another drone to your paperweight collection. Yeah. No, I mean as much as I would love that. No, not this time doesn't you know, can I tell you about the world's first solar graphy time-lapse Stephen? I would love nothing more than you to tell me about the First Solar graphic graphy. Graphic City, you know a seller graph is I think it's a pun on Scylla Griffey got nailed it in one beautiful. So what's the liquor fee silly goofy is the the groupie of the solar year your graphing this the solar the the sun? It's a son graph. We got it the science of the celebrity of the salar. Yeah. So the gravity is a technique for photographing the sun's path through the sky by using a pinhole camera to expose photographic paper for anywhere from a few hours to Over a year so a photographer Named Sam Cornwell created what he believes is if world's first solar graphy time-lapse, he is the founder of a company called solar can a unique can pinhole camera that makes it easy for anyone to shoot solar crafts without having to create the pinhole camera themselves. And so he used a matrix of 27 solarcaine cameras, which he put up sometime this last winter I think and All twenty seven exposures were started at the same time and then he visited the site once a week until the summer of 2019 summer solstice to be exact and retrieved. Retrieve cameras each time you went back, you know once a week and then he took all the photos and he turned it into you know, like a little time lapse GIF like it like it's just 27 photos. I mean that's not even like a full second of video. So lets you doing 22 rifle is it is beautiful. So it shows like a tracing of like the sun crisscross criss-crossing. It's not Christmas just crossing it shows a video of this. Brought in the sky and there's a few of the sons pass in some of the frames where it looks like the sun is like out of like it's moved like there's like, you know several of the layers of the Sun moving across the sky and then there's like one layer where it's like a different hump in a different place and apparently somebody vandalized his thing. So that's why like turn some of the cans or something and yet nothing. back or whatever So that's why there's a few weird like images in the 27 images. But now it's super cool like you just watch like this growing hump as the sun gets higher and higher in the sky over the you know, as you transition from winter to summer and you have more sunlight does it inspire you see you to do something like super creative like that. Absolutely not no. 27 weeks 27 weeks. You have to have enough beer cans to do something like this. I have to go up 27 weeks of your life to this project. Actually, I mean that's not bad at you can start like you're giving up 27 weeks. You just go once every week and take a new beer can down. That's basically what they are, but I just I don't I don't have the patience for something like that. Doesn't you know, the patient's don't like that see if I have the patience for a lot of things and then I don't do them the kids. You're too busy being patient with me on this podcast. I always I always come up with these like fun ideas. Like I'm going to shoot a picture of my son in the same spot every day or every other week or I'm going to do a picture of the backyard of my house every season and make a time-lapse and all those fun things like that that Are you to take a picture same time over an extended period of time then you do it like every year why seniors like yeah. No, I'm done. Like even our wedding we had this idea and I mean this isn't an original idea. I've seen other people do it, but like taking a picture of us holding a picture of our wedding on our anniversary or round our anniversary every year and then you swap out the photo in the frame with that photo watch yourself getting fatter and fatter and fashion. Yeah, and older and older and older now, they have apps for that. So you don't need to really do it actually will give you a raise just falling out and your skin is drooping and there's just wrinkles everywhere and you're like why the hell did I take this project on it's just reminding me that we all deteriorate. Yep, so that only problem was with that project was like the clients of mine who would do that could care less if it was like a cell phone quality picture, but Dustin, you know, amazeballs McKibben needed that photo to be like profession. And so if I couldn't get enough time to have good lighting, you know, someone that actually knew what they were doing with a camera it just wasn't worth doing. Doing in my mind and now here we are coming up on our seventh year anniversary. And we I think did it the first year of our marriage, you know, I get that all the time because like you remember when we were doing the thing with a gradable and like you made a video of yourself opening The Griddle and you're like, all right, you know you make one Steve and I never did is because like every time I went to like make it I was like, all right, I can should just like do this real quick. I'll Open up the little box and I get it done. And then I was like nah, if I'm gonna do this I want to do like a stop motion animation thing at the beginning and then like I want to do this, I don't want to do this. I'm just like this is going to take so much time and I really don't want to do a shitty one. Now that I have good ideas in my head. And so then I did what you never did one because I literally just did it on my iPhone because I wanted it to be good not like yours. I know. Wanted to be good too, but I knew if I wanted to be good. I never would have did it. Yeah, so I never never got it done. I opened it though is very nice. Thank you so much. Yeah nicey-nice. You think it is? I see the truth and the truth sees you Steve and the truth has Set Me Free now doesn't ever going to do some Q&A this week question answer me Stephen. What are you doing this until you get it? Right? I don't know how many times I have to tell you people anchor is the easiest way to make a podcast. Let me explain. It's free. There's creation tools that allow you to record and edit your podcast right from your phone or computer. Anchor will this Jerry your podcast for you? So you can be heard on Spotify Apple podcast and many more you can make money for your punk ass. It's everything you need to make a podcast in one place. Although the free anchor a poor good anchored out of him to get started. Please get started right now. Do it again. Let's do some QA but let's take our first question comes from Rebecca Elliott from our very own Facebook group. Rebecca says second shot for a new photog this year. First wedding was such a sad sad shit show. I'll suck. Sorry Rebecca that she came home and told her significant other that she'd be canceling the remaining four gigs. With this other photographer then after thinking about it Rebecca decided money is money in there are lots of people who have to work jobs every good damned good damned day that they don't enjoy it. So what's another four days suck it up? Hashtag suck it up buttercup. Her husband was a guest at the next one this photographers working with and the other geographers husband came up to Rebecca during the family wedding party formals and handed her her wedding ring. She rolled her eyes and put it on Rebecca asked her about it during dinner in the photographer said that she had gotten in a fight with her husband and she had thrown the wedding ring at him. At this point Rebecca says poor form is the norm. So she's not really surprised and then Rebecca asks, where do you draw the line for it's not worth it to work with this person. Rebecca said she consider that being associated with a photographer who makes jokes about stripper glitter on the religious groom yells at Grandma because she's not standing correctly and stops taking photos to tell Rebecca about her marriage drama could reflect. Early and Rebecca was Rebecca shooting with me. Yes, probably but Rebecca says then she just keeps thinking about the Drone in the travel in the new mirrorless in the glass and and and she really says no to work and to highlight how rarely it is that she says no to work. She says she just booked an elopement for a trump supporter and it was not just a trump supporter a trump supporter. Either she had defriended on Facebook which good Lord sounds ridiculous when she writes it her words not mine, but this Trump supporters still reached out to Rebecca said some real dumb shit during the booking process and Rebecca still took his money and will make his wedding look like it's not a misogynistic tragedy so doesn't win. Do you say nope and walk away from a client Rebecca's significant? Others said she should have Charged a hefty pain-in-the-ass fee to make it worth it has anyone done that charged extra because the cumple because the couple is well extra hashtag. The struggle is real hashtag should have gone to Business School. Pretty sure Steve charges a pain in the ass for you whenever you like. It shoots with me or by. No, that's my normal fee Dustin. If I added the pain in the ass Beyond you would never hire me now. You just usually don't hire me as nothing to do with how busy you always are. You know, I try to hire you and you told me now was that about That's because I just didn't think you would accept my pain in the ass fee. And take that pain in the ass from you when cold. Oh my goodness Rebecca. That is a great question though. I am Cut From the Same Cloth is you yeah. Dustin doesn't like butt sex either. He does not like a pain in the ass and I'm just gonna come out and say it I don't like a pain in the ass either. It doesn't mean it's always going to be unpleasant getting so, you know, But yeah Rebecca I take I mean like God, I just shot a wedding on Fourth of July weekend. Somebody called and asked me to Second shoot. There's nothing worse for back in the being at a wedding that you're second shooting and realizing about Midway through the wedding that that bride had inquired with you and because it was a holiday weekend you jacked up your prices and then here you are still at their wedding now. aching second shooter pay instead of first shooter pay Why did you say? Yes that that should have been a hard now? Because I needed him to Second shoot for me for wedding. I have coming up and he was like, yeah, I'll second shoot for you. But you have to second sheet this wedding with me. That was like fine. Damn it Rebecca. I'm just gonna say it. Have you considered Maybe? Maybe this photographer you're working with isn't a piss poor person. Have you considered maybe that religious groom hit up a strip club right before his wedding. Maybe that was stripper glitter all over the religious groom. Maybe if she wasn't just making a joke. Maybe that was a passive aggressive way for her to say look. I know I was stripping last night and you were there watching me strip because I assume she's also a stripper and that's how she knew to make the joke. Maybe is actually a passive-aggressive little jab at the Grimm. Have you considered that maybe Grandma's not standing correctly? Maybe she's faking the osteoporosis. Maybe she could stand up straight. Have you have you considered that maybe maybe her marriage drama is more important than taking photos during a wedding because that's that's her life. That's without her marriage. She's nothing which is why she had to throw. Her ring at her spouse because it was symbolic of everything that she had and she was just she wasn't so much throwing it at him as giving it to him as a symbol of how much she loved him and how much she needed him in her life. Have you thought about these things Rebecca because I'm thinking about them now and I think yeah, maybe hashtag suck it up buttercup. Maybe you need to get get in the game Rebecca. Have you considered throwing? That here significance. Gosh, don't please don't think that brokeback. Please don't go to jail because what I guess could I wonder if you use something like honey book or 17 hats something like that for your clients. And if you do have you thought about maybe using something like that for your photographers the second shoot for perhaps laying out some some coverage options with Within their selection process so you have like, you know, your standard second shooting hourly rate or whatever they can punch in however many hours or maybe you do a day rate situation and then have some beautiful Alec our add-on options like, you know personal marriage therapist. Look, I know I know 50 bucks. I know you hired me Dustin the second shape with you, but and here's my right. It's just five hundred dollars for the whole day and that is Limited coverage but I'm just going to tell you Dustin. I've been working with a lot of primary Shooters and I feel like the correct amount of coverage for me is to really show up about 10 minutes before the ceremony and then immediately after the ceremony I peace out because you don't need two angles, you know for all the Porsches that you're doing anyway, and so it's really not it's really a waste of your time if I'm there in annoying you. And bugging you and so I just peace out then I show back up at the reception after you've done the detail shots and I just let him talk a picture. Yeah, a little intoxicated. Maybe it depends if there's a good bar around or if the reception itself as a good bar. I might be there before then just you know at cocktail hour with the guests. And so I'm just going to show up and you know, take a few photos on 10. In that in that block good good blog content for you getting that first a nose of it is just getting those toes. You know what we're talking about here and then, you know really after like all the the formal dances are done like you don't need to photographers there for the rest of the night. So then I just take off and so like with the unlimited package with me that is the kind of coverage you can expect for you know, just five hundred dollars on a wedding day but not negotiable. For an additional $500. I'll stay the entire day. I'll come before you even get there. I won't take pictures but I'll be there we should really be approaching all our second shooting jobs the same way. We approach all of our clients in the same way that we talk to our kind to say. I know I was jumping down on this. I'm I'm yes, I handing you this whole thing has been me yet. Sandy near idea. Come on Dustin. Let's do it. Yeah. So Stephen and I are excited to roll out the second shooter Academy. We're going to teach you how to be the best second Shooters in the world. But first you have to buy her introductory course to third shooters. You know Rebecca I get it to we like the Trump supporter elopement thing and how sometimes you just gotta take that money. You know what I'm talking about. And you know, if you feel bad about taking that money from your Trump supporter friend, you can always donate that money to anyone anyone running against Trump. I would recommend anyone but Jeff and I have worked with people who we have different political feelings from we've worked with people who have how do I say this it doesn't you remember when we went to Sierra Leone together and we came back. I posted a photo to my thing and a little quote. Somebody said while we were there. He just asked if like what I believed in religiously and I was like, I'm a Christian. He's like, I'm a Muslim we believe in you know, the same God, isn't that awesome Steve and so I just I posted a photo of him and I posted that conversation. Yeah. So of a previous groom Jen and I had wrote to tell me I was going to hell Because I posted a direct quote from somebody we met in Sierra Leone what? Yeah, so sometimes you work with people who just like, you know, where do they reference social media in the Bible? Yeah. I don't know if it's like it's wrong the Futures book. I don't know. I've only on Facebook to tell you you shouldn't be on Facebook. It's my calling. See a Jehovah's Witness. No. No, he's not. Interesting. Remember Jen and I were real involved with crew and like half of the wedding's we shoot our people who are also real involved with crew and they were in college. Yeah. Yes is somebody's real involved with crew. So - yeah, shout out to crew II mean I met Jen because it grew so multiple shouts out to crew like yeah, I would not be married to my awesome life if it wasn't for them. So Yeah, whatever. They put in that Kool-Aid man it I drink it softens up the ladies. Let's say that whoa. Whoa that the men I'm the soft one in this relationship. Yeah. No, I mean you got bills to pay you got you got toys to buy so sometimes you just gotta bite the bullet and Blow your head off. Mmm. That means be sure. She was a photographer. You don't really want to shoot with if it's what I do with Destiny of all the time. That's right. That's right. You do fight. Grin. Take it back. Take it speaking of yeah. That's that Ulysses Del Toro ask a question on our very own Facebook group. Is anyone else used UV filters? I literally just got this lens this And it happened to come with a you the filter that I'm so happy I decided to use I don't use UV filters on any of my glass but this but this little scare might have changed my mind, or maybe I'm overreacting. Question and Ulysses included a photo of if you filter that was busted to Hell shattered shattered. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think you're overreacting Lizzy's just good. Throw it out there. I don't use UV filters on any of my lenses. Do you use UV filters on anything? Why would I want to take you know, what Kitty glass and put shitty glass over the top of my good glass. It's like hey, there's there's a window here and it's covered in dirt and grime or I can go out the door and you know shoot from outside and it's just the camera and you know my subject where I can go inside and shoot through this shitty window covered in dirt and when you put a UV filter on it's like you're just shooting through a shitty window covered in dirt all the time. Unless of course you buy a really high quality UV filter from wedding hangover.com store / not ever going to happen. Mmm. That's the one. Yeah, you can buy all of our products there. So I think we answered that one. Let's move on teak hedge. No. No Dustin. Is he overreacting come on, he's reacting poorly little over in my opinion. First of all Ulysses. It sounds like if this question is better would be better handled in an anger management group. Yeah, maybe if you didn't throw your lens over don't bash their lenses. around maybe if you took care of your equipment Ulysses. Well, I think we just lost a patreon supporter. It's crazy. It's okay anything to do with Ulysses gets cut for the patreon episodes. All right. I don't use UV filters just general rule when they shatter and they're up against like your lens like that. You have a more chance of like scratching your lens from the glass of the UV filter shattering but getting stuck on your loan and it getting stuck on your lines. Then you do if like you hit your lens and there's no UV filter there because the glass on your lens is incredibly tough and the glass I'm UV filters isn't very tough. So I mean to each their own like if you really Use UV filters like go for it. But like the it's a trade-off and it's not like a clear benefit. It's not something that you're clearly winning if you have one on or losing if you don't always want to do a bunch of Vaseline on the front of your lens Ulysses, give it that saw way anytime you like rub up against a wall or like slips out of your hands. It's just going to keep on sliding that way. It doesn't really have a lot of impact. It's really Lube up the front. Of that lens so doesn't next question go into a random Facebook group a random person named Luke asked in a random Facebook group. Definitely not somebody who you know or reference on this podcast all the time and then I cut out of the podcast for those that travel for weddings. Do you have any sort of contingency clause in your contract a couple is booking a room under the resort package for myself and my second and also likely booking the flights. I'm just wondering if I should include a cause stipulating two nights before and the night of the wedding for lodging. For example. Let's just say Luke and I from this random group had words as to what I'm not getting to go to this wedding in Mexico. What like I'm sorry. What who who's going to this wedding in Mexico? He's taking his wife. Can you believe it? He clearly said his second shooter here, which is his wife, but you've told me multiple times. She doesn't shoot video. Well when it comes to going to Mexico, apparently, she's okay with it. So Luke, you should have a contingency clause in your contract stating that you're not going to bring Dustin with you to Mexico. Yeah, that's what you really need to look out for here Luke. How much did Dustin yell at you? That's what I want to know. Hey, hey Luke, did Dustin yell at you as much as you yelled at him when he took not you to Sierra Leone. Yeah, it is opportunity. No, you asked him before me. It was between you him and Aaron and you made the worst decision of your life. And you happen to be the only one that said yes. I don't need to talk to my family about it. I don't need to talk to my wife. She supports me. So doesn't you just got back from a wedding to Mexico? What would you say contingency Clause wise in your contract to Luke who you definitely don't know from a random Facebook group. So we're talking about contingency. Are we speaking specifically about just like travel in general or are we talking like, I mean that was a huge fear of mine was getting sick and got I got sick at the wedding I was doing and there's like nothing I could do but suck it up and just deal with it. Hashtag suck it up buttercup. Hmm. You heard it here first, but um, Yeah, I mean I definitely recommend if you're doing any kind of travel wedding regardless of whether it be Mexico or Canada or you know, Wisconsin you always go a day day and a half early just to be precautious with flights flights are really unreliable right now, especially in these busy travel months. So it's just always better to be safe than sorry. But then what you losing out on is possibility of having to Fork over a little bit for a hotel for a couple extra days. I mean if you can try and get that out of the couple awesome, you know, if not, you know you then have two ways the travel opportunity outweigh the cost of the extra travel headache so that you don't have to have a butt hole the size of a is a so Jen and I have been traveling more for weddings and engagements in the last year's and we we have a we've made sure with every single one of our clients that we they pay for us to be there for like two days before the wedding just like Luke saying and then the night of the wedding as well because We don't want to travel somewhere and have to fly out as soon as the wedding's over and we're not going to pay this day on our dime when they're the ones who are like want us there and our pain for us to be there like so I would say yeah, you should have something in your contract about this. I don't know that I'd call it a contingency claws like oh this has to happen. And if it doesn't like the other thing doesn't happen. I just say but in your contract, hey for Destination weddings, I do. Wire a room for two nights before and the night Dusty event with Dustin now, it doesn't save it doesn't actually says with Luke's wife. She seems like a real my officer to write the contract contingency clause for him when he saw that it included with Dustin very big very bold all over it. I don't think he used it. I don't think he used it. Yeah, now that's crazy. Looks like you made a great decision. I mean, let's just say that the film he shot well in San Diego with me turned out masterful beautiful Monster and award-winning. Yeah, and that could be the case with this wedding in Mexico. I'm on I have sandals. I'm great with sunscreen. I don't burn easily. Yeah not tell me more tell me more. I just can't drink the water. Yeah, that seems to be my downfall. Yeah, maybe Luke knew that about you and that's why he decided to take someone else. Yeah could be could be because they could share one bed, but I said I could I could you know match. Thanks for listening to another episode of the wedding photo hangover podcast with Dustin and Steve. If you want to help us out jump on iTunes or Stitcher and leave us a five-star review. If you want to connect you can find us on Facebook and Instagram at wedding photo hangover or on Twitter at wed. Pick hangover Dustin my man. 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And then when you guys feel really good you give us more money and then it's just this Perpetual circle of feeling good and feeling good. Yeah, you get you guys get it get it, right. We're gonna make you feel so good. You know, it's I mean, it's like the Dollar Shave Club, which is not quite thanks for listening. We'll see you next time your head is pounding your limbs feel like dead weight and your entire being aches for the sweet Embrace of death. That's right next Sunday. To you shoot another when the wedding. I'm pom pom doesn't he can't get in the weeds there at the end. It sounds like you're a little offended about this whole thing with Luke. Oh, no not offended downright upset but not offended. Okay. Okay that as long as that's all it is just downright upset the opposite of defended. Nobody would ever get upset because there's are invented all originally his I think and Luke if you're listening to this and I'm totally misremembering this Forgive me, but originally his wife was going to do the photo and then I was going to get to go and shoot the video with him. But they're like, we're only getting one to be choosing and Luke and his wife choosing you in the bed with them. Is that it? No, they ended up choosing somebody else to do the photo. Damn son. Just as been look Saint Luke's wife. I was last here. Is that what I'm here? I could be mixing up two different wedding situations. You know, what I would give the same advice to Luke's wife as I gave to you which is if they choose not to go with you and go with someone else then you don't go and second shoot for somebody else at the wedding. Yep. That could be a little awkward. Hey the person that you're second shooting for that the bride turned you down and then hire them is that Luke. No. No that was that wedding a couple weeks ago, but now I was weird because I was shooting and I was thinking like because the photographer came from Indianapolis and I was thinking to myself like man, it was an Indian wedding. So it was like a multi-day affair. I was like gosh it's you know, he was doing No and video, so he hired me to help him with the photo side. So he could kind of more focus on the video side and I was just thinking gosh is just like a lot they wanted him for like 14 hours on the wedding day and I only did like I did like ten of those and it was a Midway through that like all of a sudden the bridesmaid was talking to me the maid of honor and her voice clicked in my head. I was like, I remember that voice Voice I remember this person who called me inquiring about a wedding that was multiple days with a shed like a thick accent. So I was I had trouble kind of understanding what she was after and so I try to give her, you know, the pricing that the best way I could and it just never I guess clicks because I wanted I wasn't willing to discount because was Fourth of July weekend. That sucks man. I do anything for the July weekend. The Nia ended up shooting a Fourth of July wedding with Luke and then Fourth of July wedding weekend with this guy from Indy looks like gosh. One of the week off and end up shooting two weddings. Nice working at that's what I'm talking about in that money Rebecca Elliott style. You should wedding this weekend. No, nobody's this weekend. I'm shooting a wedding. It was supposed to be a heat advisory. It's an outdoor Barn situation. Yeah, this weekend's gonna be real hot. It's going to be terrible. Yeah, it's gonna be brutal. I'm surprised the bride hasn't text me yet. Just being like we're he's listening. No not canceling it, but I could just see this particular bride being like so what do we do Dustin? If you know it's like a hundred degrees you move the wedding to a waterpark done everybody in the wave pool. I was going to pitch the idea of just a little kiddie pools for everybody and everybody just like sits in these little pools of water ice water for the outdoor ceremony. Nice. And then yeah, it's totally Totally different retro-themed everybody's in like, you know, that would work is someone guys going to be pounding beers and you know, he's going to sit in that kiddie pool and just be like, oh man. This is a toilet. Basically. Hey can't smell my photos. At least it's his own kiddie pool. Like you didn't get a lazy river situation going on which would be so much better. Everybody's just flowing on tubes watching the bride and groom get married. Why is this not a thing that's happening regularly. So we'll put you may remember those little scooter things that we had in gym class where you would Scoot around the gymnasium where you like to handle bar like kneeboard say Skid Row like you're on your knees and then there's like four wheels like you like a mechanic would use to like slide under a car. I remember those I thought maybe you're talking about the ones that you sat on and like you put your feet unlike the handlebars and then like to make it go forward you had to like twist the handle bars back and forth. Now you went to a rich kid School. See we didn't have the fancy things like that. We had the little like piece of plastic with I think it was literally a lunch tray and then it would have like four wheels on the bottom and they like set go scoot around the gym my mom taught at the school and we used to go in on the weekends. We would sometimes play with all that stuff from the gymnasium and then one year somebody broke something not not one of us kids, but somebody else's kids and then sounds like you want a clear conscience that gymnasium was locked up after that. We can't we can The cool scooters out unless the gym teacher was they're also working on a weekend man. Sad rough life being you. Yeah, but anyways, put those underneath little kiddie pools and then that people just like have people that push those around in a circle. So it's like a lazy river. But it's not. Yeah, it's like a personal Lazy River maybe just design a giant treadmill sort of thing and just put the kiddie pools on the treadmill and then nobody has to worry about like pushing or anything. It's just a motorized thing and just goes around but the water isn't flowing through the whole thing. Everybody has their own individual water / toilet. There you go. We should stop this doesn't have a great night tonight. Good night. I I assume you want something really large a lot of girth to it in your hands. Well, you know, I want to know till my mouth if I put it in wedding photo hangover was edited this week by Steve Van out of bespoke tone go to bespoke tone for all of your photo video and audio editing needs whooee.
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