Hey everybody. I'm Ashley Graham. And this is pretty big deal. We're confidence is every episode I get to pick the brains of brilliant inspiring honest new and old friends who are a pretty big deal today. We are talking to the incredible Gayle King selected as one of times most influential people in 2019.Is undoubtedly one of TV's most versatile personalities Gayle King is in the house. Thank you Ashley Graham. I'm glad to be here with you my gosh. This is so exciting that you're here. I just thank you. Thank you for making time because I know you're a busy lady you really get around. I mean do I? Yes, you do people always say that to me because you do I saw you at the lifetime lunch and you were watching 48 hours on Saturday night. I don't know how you do it. You saw Justin at the Chris Rock. Yeah that I saw you at Serena's New York Fashion. Yeah, I didn't get to say hi, but I don't know how you do it. How do you do it? Number one? I like to go. But if you have to go to a screening, I don't go to the after-party right so I'll do a come in and see what's what okay, so you're out to stay current. Yeah, you know what? I think even if I wasn't doing this job, I would want to be I want to know what's happening. What's going on? It's who you are. It is the essence of Gayle King your social your social butterfly. Actually. I'm very shy Ashley. No. Are you an introvert that has okay. Do you know how extroverted introverts have to go home and they have to have like a loan sign one of those people I walk in. The first thing I do is turn on the TV. I just like the sound I like to know what's going on. You know, I'm the kid that when I was in elementary school, you get the note home. Yeah. She's you know, she's a nice kid. I mean she's a very bright but she talks a lot in class and tends to be disruptive. I was that kid. So I've always been very I don't like the word nosy. I like the word inquisitive. Okay, but take us back to To when he first started you just started your first day was in Missouri, Kansas City. What was that first day like as a journalist because you've been doing this for I've been doing it for a long because I'm 64 people always say, how can you tell your age? I think it's silly when you meet women and you say how old are you and they go gal. That's a personal question. Is that a personal question? I don't think it is. I don't either and I'm so glad to be here. You know, when I turn 50 they immediately send you a subscription for the AARP. I'm thinking how do they even know and I call the Madison. Please take my name off the list now looking back on that. I shouldn't have done that because I think it's good to celebrate that you can be this age and do this and move this way in the planet. But when I got out of that ooh, ooh, ooh, I don't want I don't want that. But why was that such a big deal for you turning 50 did it? Well, I'm not hung up on age. But when I turned 50, it was the first time I realized that you're probably not going to live another 50 years, you know when you Turn 30, you know, you can make it to 60 when you turn 40, you know, knock on wood the way things are you could make it to 80 but when you turn 50 the chances of making it to a hundred most of us don't so that was the first time when I thought oh now I have to start counting backwards if you know what I mean. So it hit me in that respect. And I also remember when my mom turned 50 that seems so old and I didn't feel any of those things. I don't feel even at 64. I don't feel old. You don't act like it or look like I don't feel old, and I'm not avoiding. You're running away from major and I'm thinking you know 60 means different things to different people. And so I just feel you know, I sort of embrace that but when I see people I don't want to say my age it's so implied so impersonal or when I weigh myself and put it on Instagram. Oh, I like to do that that later why figured people have eyes they have a vacancy so so I don't have that kind of hang up, right I never have and so in the beginning you didn't have that hang up walk know your first name. So here I am Kansas City. Yes. I was very nervous you are. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, you know that was before hair and makeup. So I was doing it myself. I look at those early pictures and I Think Jesus really loves me. I don't know how I was on TV. But the first time I read a story twice didn't know I had done it, you know, so you are you are very nervous. And now I'm at the stage in life that even if things go wrong, that's what I like about live TV because you're always sort of working without a net. It can go wrong at any time and I like that I'd like knowing the pressure. Yeah, and I like knowing in the back of your mind it could Totally go to hell in a handbasket and there's nothing you can do about it. But now at this stage, I feel whatever happens happens and I can handle it with something as simple as we're going to take a commercial break is I've had to do that. Yes, but I do know if things go wrong. How do you prep for CBS every morning? Because you're on every morning on morning every morning and I do pride myself on being prepared. It's true. You know, I read the books I look at whatever they're coming to promote whether it's a movie whether it's a TV show and the producers really prepare you Barry. Well, so I get you know, very extensive notes very extensive research, but there's something about reading the person's book. I forgot who it was I was interviewing but they were playing Bruce Springsteen in the delivery room. And so I said God to make a playlist like bruise to and you were playing what song was it? Because you saw that part, you know, it was like you saw you actually saw that I go. Yeah, cuz I like Bruce to what song was it and I think people appreciate that if you take the time and listen, we have four minutes five minutes. So how much can you really get to but it's a Saying to them I appreciate you coming. I appreciate you taking the time and that I took the time to really see what you're here to promote what's annoying and hopefully this doesn't happen to you is someone will come on and they don't want to play and I said look, I'm here to help you. I'm here to help you to promote whatever it is you're here to do. So sometimes people come and they don't want to I use play for lack of a better word engage. I'm thinking, you know, you can engage her five. That's exactly what I'm thinking. It's a um, how long is this? Okay, Okay, I got five more of these to do and I just think way you know, it's your movie. It's your book. It's your TV show. We're just really here to help you dude. So dude. Yeah, dude, but what do you do in that moment then like do you kind of just broke through act like I don't see it. Okay, you know, I would never say what I just said, you look dude. We're here to help your ass. You just act like you don't see it go. Alright. Okay, so that that sounds like the you it sounds like you love that part of your job. Not the dude part, but Getting to know people what I love is that every day is different every day. You get to do something. You didn't do the day before that's right, you know and this is the thing the news is always changing. Yes. There's always going to be somebody that we don't even know who the next big it person's going to be. We don't know what the next breaking story is going to be but we know there's going to be one. Uh-huh and I like, you know, I say this all the time I have a front-row seat to whatever that's going to be. Yes Ashley. That's like, dr. Phil said you have of press access. Yes. He said I haven't for have a press an all-access pass love that. I liked that too. So, you know, we all have times where we go. Oh God. I'm so bored of this job blah blah blah blah. I look around the studio. Sometimes I go guys. Look what we get to do everyday people go to bed. The world is one way you wake up the next day and it could be totally different and I mean totally different now we have the situation in Iran. We get to be the ones to tell you that that never gets old to me or you know, Sadly to say you go to bed. And someone has died you wake up in the morning and we're the first person to tell you that yeah, I don't know. I think it's a awesome responsibility and an awesome privilege to and that's never ever lost them what has been the hardest story to report in all of them New Town anchor the news in Connecticut for many many many years. I was there for over 18 years, but that Newtown story. I don't think you have to come from Newtown Connecticut to appreciate the devastation of that, you know, whether you Have children don't have children, you know those little kids going to first grade, you know, they're five six years old. They don't even have their they have their baby teeth and I become friends with a couple of the mothers. And on a Grace was one little girl her mother now by I really haven't come legit friends with them covering the story and she said it's the lottery of hell. It's a hell Lottery that nobody wants to play but we're all playing wear any day any day Ashley and I do think this could happen to any of us at any time no matter where Are so that's a little jarring to me, but that was that was the hardest. I still think about that and it makes me angry that all these years later. We're still having a discussion about guns. Thank you. I know the the Second Amendment but the Second Amendment When It Was Written they were talking about muskets and they were talking about protecting your property. They were not talking about these AK-47s and these these AR-15 these assault rifles. They weren't talking about that and I just think you know, if that didn't change the gun laws. As I don't know I don't honestly don't know what will but that said. I was just going to say I do sense of something is happening. You know, these back-to-back shootings in Dayton and El Paso something is happening. So we should always feel sent. No, it's no it's alarming. I don't know how big the number has to be. I don't know who the person is that has to has to be killed that we say. Oh, oh, okay. Now we got it. I don't know what that number is. Well, I don't think if politics and law enforcement aren't going to get involved and it's companies that are actually Selling the guns. Yes, and the bullets have to start making these hands and I think Walmart even changed it did so I know but changes I do think changes coming. We'll see do you feel like this is the hardest part of your job be on your schedule is delivering stories like that. Yeah, but I also think it's a reality of light so I try not to take it home, but there are certain stories that get to me that Timothy Piazza the the guy who was at College binge drinking and you know, his fellow frat brothers just sort of left him there, you know my heart aches for the parents who come on and tell the story because they're really trying to help others avoid what they've gone through. So those kind of stories those kind of stories get to me. Where does your optimism come from? Because I get to sit and have a podcast and have fun conversation that you're having the real life stories come at you every day. I generally do believe people are good. I generally do believe that I generally do believe people want to do the right thing. You think that, you know people want to support each other and be kind to each other. I generally believe that our times say differently when were encouraged to be our worst possible selves and Kurt and I watch all the Ratchet TV shows, you know, whether what you're watching ratchet TV shows and 40 years. I've been hip-hop and Hip-Hop. Oh my God, but did you ever Real Housewives of Atlanta? Did you ever get like handmaid's tale? Yes. Oh, yeah. Yeah. See, this is the thing. I love TV. I love music. I love movies. I went to see Jennifer Lopez's hustlers this weekend. And because it's Jennifer Lopez. Well, that's where I saw you last I think yeah, one of the last times was that Gail and I stayed up until about 3:00 a.m. At Jennifer Lopez's last week in Vegas. Oh my God, that's right. And you were on the dance floor. That's right. Yes impressing everyone with my 7th grade moves, but I left Hustler thinking I need to get me a stripper pole you have Those at home, you know what Justin and I have discussed this and we have that you do we have talked about, you know, we've been very nice years, you know, but still how do you keep things sexier a stripper pole? I think that we would laugh at each other and so we Peter Pan's I don't know. How do you do that? After nine years just all of a sudden get sexy on a stripper pole. Well, there's something about watching it that I thought hmm, that's kind of interesting you like watching the girls because I don't want to I don't know. I don't think I could watch a guy strip for me on a pole. I think I would just be Hysterical well, I don't think Justin needs to strip. I think you just get up there and you just spin around. I think it just conjures up all sorts of flexibility. I'm going to get hurt my back but I did think that it was I did think that that was interesting. What have you ever stood for somebody no, okay. All right. I mean I thought I'd ask because you know, so and this is funny. This is once in college. I was dating a guy who was a photographer. Okay, and I thought okay. Let's have a sexy photo shoot now my idea of a sexy photo shoot. I was nude but Ashley. I was wearing rollers. This was back in the day where you wear pink foam roller. That's like very Marilyn stupid. No, I mean I'm posing I'm doing all the things like 50s poses. I mean just you know, you stick your butt out you stick your boobs out. He's a photographer. So I went with him to the dark room to develop them. And then when they were done, I got all the negatives. So I know that they will never see the light I was gonna say, I mean this was even before I don't understand why people send itself if I don't get I don't get it because Cause once it's out there takes a life of its own. I don't I honestly don't get that without selling weight. So if you are in a long distance relationship, no, there's nothing I would not do it was like come on Dale. It's been 20 years. Send me here coming home when he comes home. I will do all of that but I just said yeah, you better get rid of those pictures do you sent do yes, we sent each other pictures do not we're not on the cloud. But but when you take them, you're always in the cloud. I just think that's so risky look, you know. Of all even even though husband and wife I post naked and you could probably go Google it and see every crevice and and Valley of me if you really wanted to but we don't do it in a very like our photos are tasteful like we're just more like I miss you or you know, it's not like we're here my big yes. Yes. Yes and says I resume here's my penis, right? Did you forget what it looked like from the time he left the house. We do have a guess but it's still gonna look the same when he comes back. A cash Leo. What is funny is I don't--okay photos. I want bicep and add photos and he wants boob photos. Okay, but do those turn you on this is another thing I'm thinking about are you turned on looking at a picture of somebody's Penny? I don't think I don't tell me I'm looking at penis. Okay? No, I'm not into the I mean, I love Justin's but I don't need to see a photo. I haven't seen Justin so I don't know but I'm just thinking you get when he sends it to you go. Oh look at him. I prefer his mommy biceps. Absent but I like I like, you know are like a broad back. Wait. What is it about a man that gets you? What is it for me? It's humor. Okay here and then Schumer. Okay, I'll go get that. So stop. It's the chassis pointed at the church. This is just you got a big old chest come to Gail. Yeah, I do like it shallow. I know but I really do like big. Yeah, I do. I like and I think it's because I'm 5 10 and when I was in elementary imagery school, I was taller than all the boys and they used to call me. Goofy Gail. Goofy Gil a hook. I hated that I hate but the way you do so to this day. I still like someone who can like pick me up and make me feel like I'm petite so I'm very hung up on that. I know it's bad when someone says and I want to introduce you to somebody my first question. How tall is he? People said Gail, you have to stop asking that question I go. I know it's shallow. I know it's shallow, but Like I like humor. I like somebody who can make you laugh. I like intelligent somebody that you can have a conversation with like, you know, because I am so plugged in if I'll say to somebody can you believe that the Democrats or Republicans said blah blah blah and they go what are you talking about? You didn't hear you know, I'm sort of like, right. How could you not know this? That's a turn-off for me it is so I want somebody who is informed who's engaged who's funny? Yeah, because I actually believe that humor is a sign of intelligence. You know, it takes a lot to be someone who can make you laugh. My mom. You can't go on any dating app, but my mom did and she found men that were six six. Did she Nebraska Colorado? She went all in the midwest if you want to talk masca. I don't know. I wouldn't I don't know black people in Nebraska. There are few but there when I say a few I mean literally a few that's it. If I could do it like Match.com and not have to say it was me I would do it you but there's There's also another part of me that feels like loser, even though I know a lot of people have met people in dating on dating online. There's still a part of me that's feels some of that as you want it to be a natural connection like you want that one spark in the beginning. Well, Brian Grazer was on yesterday. He's written this book about face-to-face Brian Grazer that the producer and he said that he saw his wife across the room and they made eye contact and that the eyes are the soul. I've never just looked across the room from somebody when you know, I've been curious. Aureus but I haven't thought I haven't felt that but he believes that that can happen. But if I could do it and people not know, it's me with match.com. I would wait. Can we set up a fake account for you? I think Kirby should do that for you, but you can't do a fake account because they have to see a picture. Well, you could do like a like I don't know some kind of we could figure something out. So speaking of not being fake on dating apps. Yeah, how do we deal with fake news? Because this has been something that I think America has We had to weigh in on what they think is fake. Yeah, and what they believe is real. Yeah, but now we've got people saying they're journalists. How do we fact check ourselves? Well, number one focus on the truth. Will you do have to be informed? You can't I believe just get it from One Source. I think if you only listen to Fox you get one point of view the only listen to MSNBC you get another point of view and you can look at both of those and think gosh, it's so skewed I think in either direction, so I think you have to be very judicious. Atius, I think you have to be very thorough, you know, the thing I pride myself on working at CBS. Even before I went there. You know, that's original reporting great storytelling. We fact check we will sometimes be on the air and I'll say but so-and-so is reporting. Why can't we go to be they said because we haven't confirmed it yet. But so and so and so and so and then it turns out and maybe it wasn't exactly how it turned out to be. So we really check triple check whenever I hear fake news. I honestly don't think they're talking about us. I really don't but there was something that the New York Times Red Cavanaugh the Supreme Court with the New York Times did a story and the headline was you know, another woman comes forward to accuse him. But what the New York Times didn't put in the story was that the woman in question didn't recall the incident and she didn't want to be interviewed and they didn't report that part of the story then they had to come back out and say oh by the way, the woman didn't know she doesn't recall the incident. Somebody came forward on her behalf to say, you know what he did. He was drunk and he dun dada da she doesn't remember. Ember it she doesn't want to be involved in it. And when I saw that that that was coming from the New York Times. I did a little bit of right because it just feeds into the narrative from the president of the United States about fake news. Now the New York Times is a standard-bearer. I was surprised that that had happened under their watch very surprised. So I think we all have to be very careful about what we read what we see and what we believe we almost live in a society now that you can't take anything at face value because actually they can dr. Venkman. Yo, I know they could take this conversation in and they can switch our head they can switch our heads and he could have me saying, you know, I really like Justin's penis, right? They could they could do that. I know and then you'd be very mad. Now I wouldn't have to chill for that but that but you have to be careful because they really can edit anything to say anything they can edit things. So you have to trust the the news organization that you're watching or you reading. But if you bring got to do that, but you bring up a good topic because I feel like the me to movement women are finally being heard. Yes. I agree with you and you'd said this on dr. Phil's podcast that like, I really don't think women are saying that they're sexually assaulted or abused and they're not like I believe them. I think it's very unusual. I just happened. Yes. Yes, but to happen like what needs to change in this movement. What do you think? Well, I mean, I still think it's very important that we have a voice. I still think it's very important that we speak. Out and I do think that good things will come from the me to movement. I think that women will be believed in a way that they haven't been before and so I don't subscribe to the well it wasn't rape because you don't have to be raped for it to rise to the level of look you cannot do that. And this is wrong Angie Dickinson was on CBS Sunday morning and they asked her she's 80 something. What do you think about me too? She goes, I don't like it. I don't like it. I just don't like it. They said why well because there's a difference between in rape and a guy in his bathrobe showing you himself. Well, yeah, there's a difference but that ain't okay. It's not I think it's brought a whole conversation and I never yet we've never been able to have them so that's why that is good. Yeah. No, I agree with you. But I do worry though as she on the flip side on the other side to the Other Extreme that you know woman makes an allegation. The man is charging. That's just it I don't last to be some due diligence some room for Redemption if needed of course some due process. And so when you're having these conversations, how do you not because your face says it all, you know, everybody that you see on TV has an opinion right the truth is because we're not robots. We're not you know robotic or you know animated figures the difference is I'm not supposed to share my opinion. So I struggle with that I struggle with that sometimes difference between a journalist and a podcast host because you know, you'll have an opinion where you go did he or she just say But that's not the job. I'm supposed to do but occasionally I can't help it say boy that was wrong. I mean because your composure through the are Kelly and her view was amazing, but you know what? I wasn't even trying to be composed. I was just thinking I was worried about him leaving, right and I was just thinking really think he was going to yes when you get too pissed he gets up and he leaves he's gone. So I was just thinking I don't want him to leave because I still got some more questions. So I was just thinking What could I do to keep him there? And I thought if I was calm and I looked at the chair and looked at him look at the chair. Look at him to say to him. I'm not going anywhere. That's really what I was saying tune with my with my eyes because I didn't really know him. Whatever. This is you're doing you finish over there, but I'm still going to be sitting here. Can you imagine if I had stood up and reacted the way he did now, wait a second wait, we're not done. Not at all. He would have for sure walked out the door. He wanted you to react. Well, I don't know. You know what actually I don't know about that. I think that he was in the middle of I'll call it a breakdown for lack of a better word that he was sort of out of it for a second. He wasn't trying to provoke me or get me to react he was just really very wound up because that was the first time he had responded to the surviving our Kelly documentary where he thought he'd been maligned and I think it was for him a moment to express himself. I think I don't even think he expected to go from there to Hundred I don't just think it built built and then it just went it just broke. So I was worried when he was flailing around and he was spinning at one point some spit hit me on my lips. No, it didn't and I'm just sitting here like this Lord God. I can't please I'd only want to lower tissue. I just got this last does it so I was worried that when he was doing this and you know screaming I was worried that he would accidentally hit me but I never thought that he was going to hurt me. I didn't think that ya know you could tell it's either that's another thing. Can you imagine? Imagine if that had been my first interview now. Well, that's the beauty of experience. Yeah. That's why I wouldn't have my first interview from there. It's like you do this incredible interview. Your composure is excellent. Now, you're worth has gone up. How do you leverage walking into managing? Like what's coming next for you? How do you leverage? That's an interesting word? Because the R.Kelly thing came as I dark. Then I had the Michael Jackson accusers and the governor of Virginia was having issues with the black face right where that picture surface and he said it wasn't him. You don't remember taking a picture like that or you did one of the clan. Are you one of those by with anyway, so he agreed to do an interview with me. So it's sort of like things all lined up at the same time through no fault of my own. It's not like I was out there hustling trying to turn this into something that wasn't it just took on a life of its own but it also came during contract negotiations, which is very interesting. It's kind of beautiful. That's why it's interesting when you use that word leverage as I wasn't trying to do that, but it did hit a very how shall we say opportune time. So we just say, you know, the Lord just took me in this direction, and yes happened. I called her burner, so I just can't believe this is happening at this particular time. I can't believe it and she said that is called Jesus. I love it say thank you. Call him can't you? Are saying that but I didn't even ask Jesus. I didn't even ask Jesus but I didn't call Jesus you bring up a good point because the people who sit and wait for God and Jesus to work for them. They're always be sitting there with ya. It's people like you who just get up and go and then they see the blessings come for them. No one else like God. You think it's cheesy scale. It's for sure Jesus didn't know that was kind of funny, but I hadn't thought of it like that. I love it. I just said God I'm working so hard and look at all these things that's happening to me now because No, that's Jesus. I love that. She gave you that perspective. Yes. Yes your transparency. I mean on social media is amazing. You showing us the scale is showing a Spanx no makeup selfies. Where does that transparency come from? Because Ashley I think people have eyes and so maybe if I didn't have this job and didn't have on my TV this my TV Faith hello, and if I didn't have all my TV face and people can see that, you know, she can actually look okay. I will be out sometimes my mother used to always say never leave the house without your makeup. You should always have on looked at GoGo. Mom. Just going to the store to get some milk. You should always look your best and I just I don't subscribe to that. I just think if you're running the store, you know, but there are days that you go and people go, you know, you kind of look like Gayle King Your Voice Sounds like her I go I am do you say you are yeah. I say I am they go. Oh, I'm not in Disguise. This is my face and then they say, Something that you know, they're lying and they go oh, but you look so pretty I go you don't think I'm pretty you're thinking you look like shit. Okay. I know what you're thinking ma'am. No, no. No, you look so no. No. No, I don't know. It's okay. It's okay. I understand. There's a difference lashes make a difference what he could say. What's your best beauty tip lashes? Yeah. I still don't know how to put him on you probably know to put on like I don't know how to put on last you don't see I don't eyeliner. I'm for me makeup is still paint by numbers, but I swear by lashes. But so I figure people get to see me on TV and know that She can look halfway decent. So maybe that's part of it too. Although I was in the gym in La this guy came and I thought God why do I have to look like this now? Because he looked over at me when and just went on about his way. I could tell I could tell it was like no. Thanks, and I want to say I wanted to say to me, you know, I can look much cuter than it but I didn't I didn't because you want somebody to like all of you and All Phases just the way he looked at me was like hmm. I could I could just see the judge I can see it. I just said God if If he knew if he could see my in New York he could if he could see my TV face and then I have a job and that I have a braid that really have a lot to offer and so I just got my little towel and walked out of there but I get it so on those times I think God but when I see women all dolled up at the gym, I think know that way too much also you're just asking for is it at that point? Yeah. I just I was on the treadmill in this woman walked up to me and she said she went to University of Maryland where I went and she said, you know, we're always talking about it. Said when she had full faith I said, you know, I just have to say how do you work out with your makeup on I'm just very curious about how you're doing that and so she said, oh, you're so fine. I go. No, I'm serious. You got on lashes you have on Foundation. How are you doing? This she said cuz you never know I go you never know what but anyway, she said, you know, well since you're talking to me, I wasn't going to disturb you but since you're talking to me, you know, we all wonder who did your work and I go what works on your face. Who did your did your work go? I haven't had work. On my face you have and I go no, we were all wondering who's your surgeon I go. I don't have a surgeon that is the best compliment. So, you know I did I took her picture and said I'm going to post this. What's your name? I took a pic. This lady just asked me who did my work then. She was very embarrassed. Oh my God, I think that's funny that people think I've had plastic surgery People Say the Darndest Things. You must run into that where people say constantly. Yeah, I always get told Yeah by you're not as big as I thought or let do people say that you're not as big as that. Yeah, but that's like the number one comment. You're not as big as I am. And what's your response to that? I say well here I am. Yeah, you know, I mean, what are you going to say? We're oh you don't that get the no makeup thing, you know or I prefer you like and then they say how they prefer me. Yeah. I like your hair better like here at all. It shows off your body more. No, do I have to wear body con dress every day for you. I know look it would mean well though and they do they do and I think do some of the stuff that comes out you just came. Am I really think that people don't go like you said want to be nice. Yes, they do and they know it's their first and last shot to engage with Ashley Graham. So they just say something like somebody came to me and said, how do I love you? Oh God, hold on. Oh my God. How's the baby? I just love you. Please tell me you corrected them. No I said that such a compliment but I'm not jota. Oh that's accepted. And then a couple of times I've said, yeah, I am just because I didn't feel like I didn't feel like it and I called her and told her that I did that. Yeah, I could sit here and talk to you all day, but I want to be mindful of your time because you're one of the busiest women that I know as are you well, but the last thing I want to do is we always do a lightning round and it's just for questions. I just need you to fill in the blank or okay. Okay, I pretty much always. As these are like thoughtful lightning rounds. I pretty much always try to do the right thing. That's like an all circumstances. That's the truth. Yeah, you never know if that show is watching you. Yes, you do. Well, you never know who's watching. Never but I don't even think about that. I just I do pretty much always try to do the right thing like we hit we had a thing on the news the other day about somebody that left but a hundred and twenty thousand dollars in a bank account by mistake. Would you spend it or not? Even though it was put into I said, I would never I went back to the bank when they gave me $20 extra because I believe in karma well as karma never loses an address. So I went back, you know, you gave me $20 extra that led to a whole conversation. So I was pretty much always try to do the right thing. What's the biggest lesson you've learned this year God. These are wears a boxer in the briefs questions welbach tacos and hamburgers which one boxer briefs Spanx. The biggest lesson I've learned this year that nothing is guaranteed. I look at the world. We live in with politics that you think it's going to go one way and then it goes the other nothing is guaranteed. And if you believe in something you've got to boat people can't be you can't complain. You can't complain and rant about something and then not do something about it. What's the biggest deal you've ever made and it could be business or it could be you made a big deal about something either way if you look a deal I tend to make a big deal about food Ashley. Oh you and the Popeyes had me on my knees. I meant that too. I don't sandwich was delicious eating and food gives me such pleasure and I can't cook. So, you know, we just had that people on from Bon Appetit the top 10 restaurants. They had a sandwich on the cover that I wanted to friggin bite the cover and start chewing the paper. So I tend to make a big deal about food. Okay and last question. Since you're pretty big deal, what is a pretty big deal to you? Well, my favorite daughter Kirby's engaged. Congratulations. He's engaged. That's a pretty big deal. It's a big deal. I just would like some details about date. He hasn't given me a date yet because they haven't picked one is you know, I'm ready to start shopping. Of course. I keep a list of baby names as a matter of fact when I was walking in here. I met somebody on your team. Kailia, Kaylee. Oh, yeah, my director. Kailia. Yeah, yes, so I've been collecting names of things that I like. She's getting married, but you already thinking of I know and she said Mom, that's what she said mom. My womb is empty, but I said, but I'm just collecting name's Hayden Colton Landon Stetson Milo. Kailia, Eden color the best thing not to be guilty and the best thing Justin's mom and dad. Did they never put pressure on us? And then boom it just happened and it wasn't even like we weren't planning. We weren't not It just happened. So it's wrong for me to say I'm sorry Gail. You're in the wrong. You don't even know what I'm going to ask. Oh, it's wrong. It's wrong for me to say are you guys planning on children soon? Is that wrong to say if you ask one time? That's it. Is it wrong to say God? I can't wait to have a grandchild. So wrong to say instead of saying. Okay. What's the right way to ask? It was clearly. I don't have any kids when you guys and then don't ask again. She'll give you you an answer. I know don't ask again. Clearly. We haven't met. Thank you Ashley. Thank you. Alright guys, don't forget to join the conversation on pretty big deal Instagram and Twitter. We want to hear from you. So make sure you leave us questions and comments. You never know. We might read it right here. Pretty big deal is produced by a pretty big deal Productions and OBD sound.
Ashley Graham sits down with the one and only, Gayle King. You know Gayle as an accomplished journalist, co-host of CBS This Morning and Editor-At-Large of O Magazine. Gayle is a Broadcasting & Cable Hall of Fame inductee and was selected as one of Time’s Most Influential People in 2019. She is undoubtedly one of TV’s most versatile personalities. You can find her delivering the news bright and early on CBS, laughing with her best friend on reruns of The Oprah Winfrey Show or conducting a hard hitting interview with notorious public figures. In this episode, we talk about the news, her hectic schedule, and staying positive through it all. HOST: Ashley Graham GUEST: Gayle King EXECUTIVE PRODUCERS: Ashley Graham, Penni Thow, Scooter Braun EXECUTIVE PRODUCERS: Michael D. Ratner, Scott Ratner, Miranda Sherman PRODUCED BY Pretty Big Deal Productions, OBB Picture & OBB Sound CO-EXECUTIVE PRODUCERS: Kelsey McWilliams, Ava Coleman DIRECTED BY: Kaliya Warren WRITER: Ava Coleman LINE PRODUCER: Jess Vogel ASSOCIATE PRODUCER: Ilyssa Walker RESEARCHER: Shahnaz Mahmud SOCIAL MEDIA MANAGER: Natasha Janardan EDITORS: Crystal Arnette, Lucy Tatiana Morales MAIN TITLE THEME BY: Johannes Raassina, Lefteris Ioannou POST PRODUCTION SUPERVISOR: Jess Vogel SOUND MIXER: James Sparber TITLE THEME PRODUCER: Johannes Raassina KEY PRODUCTION ASSISTANT: Julissa Ramirez PRODUCTION SOUND: Kit Jirles ADDITIONAL SOUND RECORDIST: Deanne Williams ART DIRECTOR: Laura Miller PRODUCTION ASSISTANT: Catrina Kokkoris DATA MANAGEMENT: Melissa Bueno-Werner PRODUCTION ASSISTANTS: Masha Zhak, Adam Duplechain, Nick Kaufmann, Christian Guinanzaca, Guy Mueller ADDITIONAL PRODUCTION SUPPORT: Raquel Dominguez, Jennifer Spottz SPECIAL THANKS: Mina White, IMG Models, Argon Props. Adorama Rental Company, YouTube Studios, YouTube Space NY 