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I can find it was a big blowup penis costume your head would stick out right underneath the tip and your feet will go out either either ball and then there was a little fan that blue in the back and you had to Waddle, but it was pretty awesome. I mean I was six foot one inflatable penis me a cow a sheriff and I believe a scream mask where one into a couple different clubs one for different costume contest that night cuz up on the stage when they asked the penis to dance, I would break it Don. At about midnight the fan broke though. So now is just one big floppy penis and turns out it was an even better costume then whenever it was fully erect people love the floppy head bouncing around on top of my head. The flashiness of the ball is made my feet be able to move so I could dance a little bit harder. That in the time that I dressed up as an Alpine skier, or my two favorite Halloween's I wore roller blades around Morgantown were all white tights had long hair at the time hair sprayed it straight back. So it looked like I was going fast at all the time. I had to hiking sticks in either arm. I was it downhill Alpine skier in Morgantown West Virginia rollerblade stayed on the entire evening. We're called the Mountaineers. Think about how hard that had to be. Walking around campus in rollerblades 1 2 3 a.m. Uphill downhill try not to die. One a couple costume contest in that bad boys. Well, I was in great shape. I'll post the photo at sometime today or that outfit. That thing was award-winning. Halloween's a great time people just get to act completely ridiculous and we're next to nothing and then flown around town and act like it's completely normal. 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We were ACT people and I think you had to take the SATs to get into Syracuse. Yep, and I say that's a pretty fucking is it because you is because you're you're Muslim and then take the the SAT. That's my Syracuse in which one could say that right now? Let's tell everybody that it's a bunch of everybody knows Cuban he kind of got it but they looked at us at but like part. Past part bad. You take the SAT do they even offer that where you're from? No. Okay. That's all right. No, they don't we don't like your kind. It's like I don't know. What is that supposed to mean the kind of don't take the SATs? So I took the a CTS and I ended up applying applying for like three schools. That's it like Western Illinois Bradley and Valpo and the only reason I applied about because my buddy told me to my buddy was going to be the general manager the student radio station. He's from my hometown and I still works at Florida Atlantic University. Is there play-by-play guy hsiao towels Lane kiffin. What's up? And then he's like if you want to try broadcasting which I had messed around with very very like infrequently in high school. He's like come down here. Come come to Valpo. I'll put you on here. So I said, all right. I applied I got in sight unseen. First time. I was on campus was first day of registration. Nice. I never bothered to go and your friends Chicago from Chicago suburban Chicago and was the plan to be play-by-play guy know, what was the planet? Like I wanted to be a baseball player first and foremost, then you get to like 12 and you're like, When did Jose Altuve I mean, that guy's about yourself heat done Astros games? I'm taller than L2 L2 Bay, which is just anything and he's an MVP. So clearly I just didn't I didn't have fucking what it took. My biggest issue was the mental aspect of it because I had already disregarded myself before he walked into the room. I was like, I can't do this. That's that's good. By the way, I see if I die I want To ask you when did you know like hey, you know, like I know kids we asked the this question to college kids all the time. Like when did you know you could play college football or whatever it was for real? When did you were when were you like I could I could Punt and kick in college do this and if L is the thought the first time I kicked a ball. I kicked a 60-yard field goal. Yeah. So the first time I kicked a football is a six yard field goal and I had have a like a real conversation with my parents. It was a business decision more schools are looking at me for soccer than for football. So it was a business decision. You want to get rich in Europe or America? So we decided with football and it worked out. I mean there was a lot of very lucky things that had to happen for it to work out but it worked out. Were you a very confident kid? Yeah, is that because we're like I always say I was gonna be a star in Europe or start America. What are the other? No rich. I was gonna be rich in one or the other it didn't matter. But it because I feel like that separates people like you who get to that level and people like me who have to kind of figure it out. And once we figure it out, I'm all-in like once I figured it figured out it was this it was tunnel vision. Yeah, but for men, but no, I like that feeling separated. I wasn't gonna I saw my dad wake up like 4 a.m. And then come back at like 6 p.m. And he was a truck driver and I'm stuff and I watched that and then I watch Wild on with Brooke Burke and I was like, I'll tell you what they seem to be enjoying life a lot more than ten McAfee who's busting his ass. I want to go do that. Yeah, and I was like, you know what I am going to try my absolute best to become a wealthy person in this video just actually got released from West Virginia where I commented on it. Yes, we did. I Beitar Baby Pat. Yeah, and if you look at that all of this it was adorable all the things I said were all people that were Rich. That's all I care about. I don't care about what I did. I just knew I wanted to be wealthy. It's what they were but they had a checklist for you. Yeah, and it was hey I wanted to do x y z and a b and c and all of them were checked up. That's awesome except for the acting thing. We're writing a movie right now actually have a movie. That'll get a knockdown. I don't know how to be good. I think we'll be better than some shit to get cell but let's go back to you. So when you get in there, when did you know that you had this incredible skill to potentially be a play-by-play person. Because as somebody that just got into the world the play-by-play person the amount of homework you have to do in studying you have to do and then the ability to balance everything is a real acquired skill. I'm not sure everybody can do it. When did you know like, you know what I could probably be pretty good little play-by-play guy. I think probably like my junior year of college. We all in their basketball games basketball. We did everything there. It was kind of cool. Actually. We got through basketball games football games Studio. We did the play-by-play and the Analyst job. We did producer in the Yo, so like all these jobs we got to do when we were in college. That was a nice little leg up and I was happy eventually that I went to Valpo instead of a place like Syracuse because it's Syracuse you don't get to do anything until you're a junior you gotta like work your way on it, you know, you gotta it's a hierarchy and I guess when you've had you know, Mike Tirico and Ian eagle and Bob Costas and Dick Stockton and Dave O'Brien had a passion all these people that our colleagues now and work at big jobs in the industry. Like I guess you're allowed to do that. Okay, so So the thing about you so interesting is you came from a family background, right? That is not very akin to sport. I'll go right now pose a Muslim Community is not very well represented in sports. Probably not I would say I think I think that probably Bears down at the individual more than anything else. I'll tell you this in Pakistan like the translation of Pakistani sports that are popular to America doesn't really connect you are Pakistan Pakistan. You hundred percent Pakistan. Okay and your family very much Pakistani like it's not like Yeah through and through I was the first person in my family to be born in the United States. So that was that was the big what's the language we speak Urdu, but there's like in that region there's hundreds of languages spoken. We speaker that which is probably like a top ten most popular languages in the world. This is a very ignorant question. I'd zero Muslim friends growing up sure. What was it? Like well as the world kind of changed in the the perception of Muslim. Yeah, like you're right in the middle of that. I mean that is literally your life. How old are you? I'm the 32. We're the same age. So literally we were in the same grade. I think probably through High School it all kind of started happening and it is an interesting thing. The the Muslim image. Oh, yeah came an interest you remember being a Freshman. I mean compare your freshman year and what how you thought and what you thought of and and everything you did compared to what you are now, that's a pretty big difference and I've learned to kind of figure out. Hey, let's not be too upset at a bunch of 14 year olds for not knowing what they're saying to you because they didn't know what they were saying, but September the Wealth we went back to school as a freshman in high school. And the first thing somebody said to me his name is Marco. You shouldn't be here your people did this. Yeah, that's a crazy thing. That's a hurtful thing to hear when you don't when I mean you have nothing to do with this and you're very much taught like like my dad. My mom were very religious people but like they were also very understanding they were very liberal compared to a lot of like other Muslim kids parents that I knew. Yeah, so they gave me a lot of leeway and they were very cool with me asking questions and I always appreciated that so I asked my parents and my dad I'm like what? How come they're talking people are so angry about this and he said they don't understand they don't know what we know or they think we think something different than what we think so that was frustrating because it's like yeah, because what are some myths about the Muslim religion? So I you hear it? All right, especially any any stereotype Isis thing you can think of al-Qaeda at that time I think was the was the terrorist group of choice, but it's a particular All-Star team. That you could think of like like you hate women your you disregard like anything from west of the western culture, whatever happiness to by the way Riley happiness capitalism. All these things. They think that the Muslim religion hates again. Yes, and it's not not the case. And for these people yeah, they think whatever they think that is the sliver Remember The West Wing that show The West Wing. Yeah there they did a episode about 9/11 cup maybe a month after it happened. Right? It's called Isaac and Ishmael to put, you know referring back to the Bible and the story that they that they use a comparison because the guys from the White House ask these kids if they're stuck in in the white house with about this like what I say, it's a vent. I don't know what they're called like, it's a fill in the blank. Christianity is to as Islam is to terrorism or like to Al-Qaeda or whatever and the blank was KKK. Okay, and I always thought that was a similar or the like a simile to now an analogy that made sense. Like if you think of the KKK and you're a Christian person you don't associate yourself with what their values are or how they go about their practices. Yep. That's how we feel about like a that's a really small dumb group the small dumb group that A louder voice than they probably should have I think that's the best way I can you know, a lot of people listen to this right now just had an entire whole moment. Right? I mean, I that it made sense to me and I was questioning it and this was I grew up on the religion. So I was like, how do I contextualize this when I'm 14 years old. Did you play sports growing up when you were 12 you stop playing baseball, but anything else did you play sports played football and basketball the way through freshman year of high school played baseball all the way up until about about Junior. Hi, I started playing volleyball. So this is another thing we haven't you love Ali. I started playing volleyball when I was 12, stop playing baseball and played all the way through High School played Club ball all the way through like sophomore year, but Barrow so and we had this conversation. I think yeah you and I were the last year I think for both, Illinois and Indiana vote boys, but that's already an empowered Pennsylvania volleyball where you didn't have the libero on the boys side. The girls had it for those boys thing that don't know volleyball at all and know that men's volleyball. This was my favorite sport in high school. Literally my favorite sport in high school because I knew there was nothing really it was just fun. Like it was just fun and I was good at it libero is a position that only plays in the back row. They don't play on the offense basically a defense only position. If you ever watch A Match or the player with the different color jersey, they don't count as a substitution you play all but one rotation, so you got a ton of playing time and they eat balls and ain't like I'm eating just you're ready some six-foot-six dude from you know, Ukraine and Ukraine. Is coming at you? Yeah, he's right up. He thinks he's gonna Crush one. You're right. I had a sick day. Dude. I had eggs. I had a college coach who want to one of my games my senior year. I played my freshman and Senior year. I didn't play those middle years. I was already committed to West Virginia. So I was just gonna play with my boys all my boys played volleyball. So I was like, I'll just play it's fine. By the way, we sold tickets. We sort of lot of the we move. Yeah commands. Yeah. We move ticket. We were the first successful boys volleyball team in like 15 years at the at our high school and I had a good little career. I'm still friends. It's some of the guys that I played with my coach. I still like my culture probably listen to this right like he was my econ teacher my volleyball coach. Yeah part my coach do by the way. His name is Nan and Berg Legend of a man. He got fired from the high school now a coach a mentor. He didn't get fired. He got moved. Yeah this place. Yeah, he's alert. He's probably one of my favorite coaches have ever had while he's like talk to me because he was my last coach before I went to college so because it was spring so is my last coach so he was telling me a lot about later he and I he and I relate a lot big fan is you know, what here He's a funny story just with the Muslim thing. He was the guy that made it like cool like cool with everybody. Like he he made it. Okay for me to be now. What is that Ramadan Ramadan? We had a player on our team at West Virginia read one Malik. Yeah, he had to test fast sunup to sundown and it's not just food. I think a common misconception is that it's only food, its food and water you abstain from why it why what does that mean? So the how it was taught to me was basically you should understand. The suffering of those who have less than you like, you know, you those who feel hunger on a day on a daily basis like you should understand how most people people that don't have food things like that. It's a it's kind of a test of will tevye man. It's it is and it's and it's I mean 30 days is a long time. It sucks when it's in the summer. It's doable in the winter. What are you just like pick and choose what it is. So it's a the so the Islamic calendar I think is the equivalent to I want to say a ten-and-a-half like like my months that we that we filed a the what do we follow the Julian calendar Jillian ipso of the Julian 12-month calendar? The Islamic calendar is like ten and a half months. So you'll have Ramadan shift all through the rest of the 12-month calendar year for us. So it'll be in the summer some Years. It'll be in the winter some years and you want it to be in the winter because the sun goes down at 4:30 and you can see for me. I always thought that was why a lot of Muslim people didn't get into Athletics because that is potential. I mean I couldn't do I remember almost passing out at a basketball practice at one point because I was I was trying you know, why because Hakeem did it Akeem Olajuwon. Did it during the NBA playoffs? And my dad was like see look at you guys. I'm not that guy. I am not 7 feet and I'm not having it be a nor will I probably be the NBA so like but that like a do you remember the the Abdullah Brothers know what support for the in the NFL their defensive battle? Yeah. Yes long dreads. Yeah, and I want boy. Both of them did no other day. I remember I remember having a close close cut. I don't have another got nothing but they they're they did some stories on them because both of them would fast during Ramadan. So they'd get up at like 3:00 3:00 in the morning 3:30 in the morning and just Crush Gatorades protein bars protein shakes chicken cereal sent whatever nutrients they could consume before the sun came up. They would not this is during training camp this during August training camp. How does a hums? Yeah hums that and it's starting are all right homes and Hussein. Okay. Gotcha. So, both of them would was your name Adam. I'll tell you that story in a second. So they went so they would just pack all these calories in sun goes up. Yeah, they do two-a-days all that stuff and then they consume as much as possible before they go to bed. So there's the eating twice a day. My name is Adam because my brother's name be Adam when I hear my brother's names. Yeah his smile. Okay, Abdullah Mustafa. My mom's name is zubedah. My dad's name was Muhammad. So I got named Adam because my Dad came over in 78 by himself. He was with his brother, but he left the three kids and my mom the way he told it to me was like he couldn't afford to bring everybody he could only he would have to leave somebody behind and he can't there's no combination that you could have one person you can leave behind and make it. Okay. Yeah, so he said I'm gonna go on my own saving up money took him seven years, they came over and just in 85 so my brothers had gone to school in America for about a year by the time I was born and they had kind of I've dealt with the ridicules. They're called fobs back that and maybe the fresh off the boat. That's what they would call them. Wow. You're fresh off the boat. Look at these fucking fobs. Can you believe these fun? Yeah, that's how people with top heavy accent probably heavy accent because and and two of my brother's the two younger ones of my three older ones both sound like American like I like they sound like I do God but with Chicago heavy Chicago accent. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I was like, let me make sure his ego gets into this, you know bear that's not Chicago. For science, that's Ryan's now. Yeah, okay. Alright. So yeah, we're gonna answer for this guy. So so that's how they talk to him. So the accent didn't help. I'm sure the skin tone didn't help but their names were like first day of class. It's my not gonna not gonna work here and it like the office space thing. That's how teachers were in the a look. Nobody gave a shit about you. Like if you were foreign like they didn't care. So it made it easy to get made fun of and my brothers were like, no my mom. Wanted to name me Muhammad after my dad and my brother His were like no, we're not put a little weird. He's gonna have every other disadvantage which ended up not being true. Yeah, but I think they were just being older protective Brothers. They're like, we're not putting him at this disadvantage give him an American named it was still religious. It still has religious connotations to it first, man. All that stuff work. Let's let us name as my brother's gave me my name. Well, I think Adams great name Adam. Yeah. I think it has a good Cadence to it. When we first when I was told I was paired with you. It was written on. A text or an email they're like you'll be with Adam. Am I? Yeah. Yeah, and we went around the boys, you know is like what are we doing here? What do you think? We had a very cultured conversation? And we said it's a mean this is definitely a mean we said that sure then I go on Rich Eisen show and they say you'll be in there with Adam Amin and Madam. So the entire did you think you would screwed it up? Yes. I thought I was wrong like that while they're not going to be wrong. So the entire interview I couldn't even use your name because I didn't know how to pronounce it. So I was like, I can't wait to meet Matt Molly. And Adam can't wait. It's gonna be a lot of fun someone let you know we had a very cultured discussion and we got it right immediately. And I was all I heard was nothing but great things about you which makes sense. Now that I've seen you operate because not only do you have got MLB games there for a little bit you had college games and you had NFL games. Yeah. So your job though as a play-by-play person isn't know everything. I don't know. Most of these fuckers named 20 minutes. There was one time where I didn't The offensive coordinators name and he was a pretty prevalent part of the story. So I haven't you went with your you just what with Joe at what point do you see you're like Joe defensive coordinator Joe. I didn't know what I didn't know was pronounced which sounds actually I gotta tell you that sounds like homier like that sounds like like familial. It's a DC Joe good. They see Joey's great show called me yesterday because I didn't know how to pronounce his last name and I probably should have asked before but it was just we get live there. You have to know everything. So is your life just a Constant study sesh, like what is a lot of it is in all honesty watching you take notes in these meetings is it's almost I'm going to film it at some point. So people can see it the way you utilize your keyboard in this it's like a graph that has every player's name. But you have to bounce around to enter the notes in the section underneath. I don't know if it's a spreadsheet or whatever the hell it is. Yeah, you can do it in it, but it's a Adobe InDesign. So it's just like it's a template. It's like never heard of chart. Yeah never heard of it. But watch when you which by the way, most announcers like analysts and when they first get into like, how do I fuck? What a how do I do this? Well, because the coaches the coaches when we asked them a question, they might go on and answer with four different players that oh, well when we're looking for Speed we're going to this guy we're going to this guy who done this guy and you you are you have this ability. You're like the people in like the courtroom. Like, what's those Agra photographer? You are closed captioning and I watch you close caption to meeting in your notes and it's not just straight ahead. You have to bounce around a players and the coaches. It's very fascinating but I think like that plus being able to study I think of it. That's what makes you a weapon as place. It later and that's your big Advantage. I think because the product on this for so long like at this pace. I've done three or four games to two to four games a week my entire career like it's just that's just how I was taught like you do as many as you can as much of it as you can and at some point, I'm at the slow tell you can't I can't keep up this pace forever. But I've done it long enough to where I know the process. I know how to where do I start? How do I start prepping for a team? If you told me? Hey, you've got 24 hours and you've got to learn you gotta fill in for Fowler something out and you got to learn these teams. How do you how do you do it? I give me 24 hours. I can do it. It's tough, but I can do it because I have a process and that's the thing with like you and Matt. I love watching you guys work because I can see the gears it's one that I'm sure your listeners already know this because because you know you've been with them for a long time, but it's interesting to watch you operate because you can tell with you and mad you both think very similarly you have producers. I tell our producer you guys have the eyes and ears of producers. It's like TV producers. What would make good content? What would make interesting TV? Yeah, and you guys have that type of thinking so when you learn something new I can kind of see the gears in your head ground go like like you kind of go. Okay, and you connect these dots, you know, like that's how I'm going to do that. I like that. 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You'll get free shipping and a 60 day risk-free trial. You've got nothing to lose go now be sure you go to Simply Save.com McAfee. So they know that this show sent you that's SI MPL is AF e.com, / MC a Fe. And I have to apologize to you why I snapped at you once you did in the Stanford. Yeah. Yeah, you did and I was like that's going to happen to here's why I got upset at you because Talked about the cough button. Yes and your mic can and your these mics we have by the way are overly sensitive there. Like like if you move your head settle, it's like boom about you can hear it. Yes in the headset. It's annoying. So they're overly sensitive. But if you move it like we talked about this like try to use your coplin. I like you had just moved it to a 2002 Michael Black. Yeah - yes. I was like when I say snap, I mean, I was an asshole. I kind of like legit like you actually snapping at me. You've done this like 10 times. Well and I was different and uh and uh, that was the other funny part about that. That's the other reason I was like, I really should not I should have given him way more credit and yeah giving you a more leeway than that. That being said, I hope you understand like the reason I got upset is because I already expect so much of you. Yeah, I don't worry because you and Matt I'm and I will ship this to a compliment like you guys have learned so fucking fast like well, he's held and part. You get thrown in the fire, but I've seen a lot of analysts who get thrown in the fire and within two weeks there they've lost they've lost it they lost the battle. Yeah, you guys have one that already and it's in your getting better every single week, which I love just seeing how you guys do it, but I shouldn't have I shouldn't have snapped at you because it was like I've been doing this for 10 years you guys were doing for 10 minutes. Well, and also, I mean that was my first technical air of the season. I mean I pride myself. Yeah. I'm doing good things. I was on a different level. I was literally two feet below me. But Mike off button was up. It was it was on the it was unlike the peak. Yeah, there was you had to climb the mountain to get to had to reach to get to my cough button. You can you actually do that, but you had to poke Hasselback in the ears but to get to so bad you'll create more noise, but I had to push her but the thing about Adam is in this is what people should know when they're watching games the play by play guy is the quarterback though, like legit. He's always yelling at my offensive line exactly. What I was yelling at a rookie offensive lineman that That wasn't doing anything particularly wrong. Well, but it's alright to hear a lot to do that. That's your job. And literally we made up two minutes later. It was not a big deal was actually kind of cute but if you people had seen as makeup it was like wow that house that hey man, I'm sorry for doing that and you're like sorry too and we hugged each other and we went right back to it right back to back games. Great. It sticks. Hey, there you go. Hey, it's Tom it. Watching you kind of handle it though. You have this personality, which I assume not a lot from watching. I watch other games that people do it now from a completely different light and watching play-by-play people now, it's a whole different animal after watching you work behind the scenes what's different? I think you have like a I don't think a lot of play-by-play people could handle me in there. Like I honestly think it's going to have to be the right fit for a play-by-play person. I don't think it's going to work because I can talk a lot. I can get a little mouthy and you have this ability to be selfless, but also keep the Train on the tracks, which I Watch some other people operate and I think they would they would be getting mic off' button. Well, I'm talking, you know what I mean silent you do an incredible job of that. I think more people should take notice of that that's kind of you to say mate. I don't know what it is to like chemistry and booths. It's hilarious. I've heard this a big deal by the way huge it's well, you said you said it actually the other night after our game I think maybe it was last week or the week before you were like man. This is like I can't imagine what it would be like if I didn't get along with you guys because it's it's three days a week two days a week, whatever. Is yeah plus phone conversations and all that for like four months four straight months went on your locked in a cage while you're in it. Yeah what I think would people would find interesting people don't realize that our preparation is so much like coaches preparation. Yes, maybe not as much like players perhaps but like just the process of studying to do this stuff and like coaches you you gear yourself up. That's why I get upset when people are like man, you're so biased you got too excited for that team and not our thing dude. You don't understand the adrenaline. Alan that's pumping through all of us and you've been on the field. Yes, so I can only imagine like this is your connection back to that when a coach tells us that they're going to try something don't you get Jim networks. It's like did you get so excited to be able to say that? Yeah it for both teams, by the way, it's every like for instance tonight West Virginia is literally my school right as place. I want Colin against Baylor, but Matt ruined the Baylor Bears were the first team I ever got to commenting right so I have a very special relationship with them and I love West Virginia, right but tonight our yeah from learning from both teams. They're looking for like when something good happens for them. I'm like legitimately happy for them. I'm like, hey, yeah. Hey these motherfuckers just tried something and work like good for them or if a player does something that they were like how we don't know if this guy will be able to do this or not. He makes it happen like you could I get genuine excited excited for when I want to see cool stuff happen and I didn't grow up on college football. So I don't know what it's like and in Pittsburgh, but like like, oh, it's an NFL. It's still shitty. Yeah. It's a pro Town NHL and I'm in Chicago is a pro town. So I was a pro sports got I didn't. Understand what Auburn Alabama was and then I called the kick six game. I didn't know what like, I don't know what that's your voice on the kick. So know that the one that they use is the late Rod Bramblett Bradshaw personal rest in peace rod. That's the radio radio. Yeah. I did the national radio call. So it does exist if I find it I'll send it to you. But like it's like I didn't understand what Alan what the Iron Bowl was I no clue. I didn't understand what the oh cool. The Rose Bowl is on know people talk about ask Herbstreit about the Rose Bowl fawn over it. Why not? Like he understands like the sows special it is. Yeah, and I didn't understand that until like a decade ago granddaddy of them all and I didn't understand why Keith Jackson was important then I started doing this and then I worked at ESPN and then it's like oh I got oh, yeah. I love Keith Jackson. We talk about Keith Jackson all the time every day, Keith Jackson's are very are you Out there you do. You want to tell go ahead what I'd say. It's not like he was he's the boy sound like the Vince Young touchdown against USC and you've heard it the granddaddy of them all each point that place. Whoa Nelly that hello. Hi. Hello. Hello. Heisman is him. Oh, so I love this guy you love this guy football. I get excited when these habits and also Donnelly's atmospheres meeting these coaches and the fans and everything like that. I am growing a real respect for college football. Not that I had respect for college football. I played on one of the best teams of all time. Yeah. I absolutely love valued team. You think by the way very undervalued in the scope of the last 20 years. Yeah and tomorrow night. I'm gonna put them on for sure. I have to retire five by the way, but the the entire thing was as soon as I left West Virginia, I started focusing on football pro and I grew up watching. Watching pro football. Yeah, so I just kind of that was it right was like reconnecting tearing child. I'm back in this and I just kind of turned it off with college football. So my only college football references. We're like 10 years old whenever I was asked to come do this now that I'm learning about it even more especially with the game day experience last weekend. I mean, it's just it's a very cool. It's much different than pro football is it's a different sport onerous. It is a completely different sports reliant on an atmosphere oftentimes. It's not like that and every NFL City. Nope. It's there is a That familial atmosphere to it and just the pace and at how I mean has the a you guys were like it were you guys were asked for a fast offense fast. We humans were an anomaly. Yeah 10 years ago. Now it's like you guys would have fit in very well. It's probably the first or second pick of the draft if we come out and turn it right now. Yeah, if that's the way it goes. He was Kyler. He was like a taller Kyler, right? Yeah, he's like to of but he was fast to okay, that's better comparison TV playing a lot like to but he was faster. Yeah, and I think he would have been first or second pick. I think they would have been teams tanking. Yeah that white now without a game. I believe that but we did run Tempo which has helped me calling games now because I literally was front row. So one of the best Tempo offenses in the last probably two decades. So the thing I remember telling you and Matt we had a really good game that night Tulane and Houston. All right. What a great awesome amazing game and gotten classic. We got we got to the fourth quarter with like 11 minutes left and I noticed like because this was only like our third game together when our second game together, I think II because we skip the week, so this is our second game together. And I turn both to both of you guys because they're both teams are just ripping Tempo and I was like, hey you real quick. You guys are letting the Rhythm you guys are trying to dictate the rhythm of the game. Yeah, they're going to dictate how we talk. Yeah, and you guys both look like you guys nailed it? Like that's why I go back to what I said about watching your gears in your head. Operate both you guys. I liked it. Click for both you I felt really proud. Oh by the way, we're learning everything from like you and Molly which is a horrible fucking idea. There's no cuz I think you're not the same mode now granted aside from your background in your everything like that. You are a very different animal in there. So us learning from you I think is good because I don't think makes me happy. Well, I don't think a lot of people when I don't think a lot of people would be able to handle me in there II don't think because the references I make you pick up literally everything I'm laying down sure. It helps that me and Molly are around the same age. And Matt is a very young 53 or what if he's not marrying him because he's not he's even better ask, you know what I mean? It's even better but I think it's been awesome to kind of learn and watch you work and it is I got remember I got rejected from broadcast boot camp three times. Its that I thought I think it's hilarious. Me too. It's partly because I look at it now. Yeah, that's hilarious like that happen you I'm saying it's hilarious. Now, it was hilarious when it happened. It's yeah, I mean what if I get rejected the first time it's hilarious to think like like what a bad bet, you know, somebody made somebody made a bad or Failed to make that's a bad beat for them. They failed to better treat. I should yeah, three times the area of the bed on you my first time my real that I sent in was an hour-and-a-half stand-up comedy special. I was like, here you go. I mean is there not something we can do is just straight through then the second one. I was like little bit of work with the news and a little bit of my own show and a little bit of common I had somebody actually put it together and then I had to write out why I wanted to go what I thought I could do. That's hilarious. It's never going to be made back in and I saw pictures from it. I was like, oh this motherfucker man. That's awesome. We have this conversation. Ation, who are your four favorite stand-up comics? Okay. Love Chappelle. Love Chappelle. Love Bill. Burr made him twice made him laugh twice in one night. Ron White big fan Iran white. I think I'd her salad story is still one of the greatest things I've ever get caught the Tater. You caught me. You caught the Tater. I was drunk on tater tot. I was drunk in a bar and every and any type because he know what he does. He plays all his hits. Oh, yeah, and as soon as he said I was drunk in the bar. Level of noise that erupts. Are you getting here A Rod white show and what he's doing that joke from at least a mile away. I smoke vitamins. Run white a - oh no gianopolous. Yeah. That was a big moment for me Blue Collar Comedy Tour. Obviously when I was on Comedy Central all the time. That's how that's how I got exposed to Blue. I didn't and I was like, I'm not gonna like these redneck guys or whatever what and how and how silly of me to make that assumption how goes for not a character whatever. No, but they're just very corny comedians. I mean that is something that is definitely Definitely happening. So yeah, I don't think you should feel bad but they liked it was really smart. Just the way I was much smarter than I ever would have got that was that was silly of me to have that type of presumption about and I like Kevin Hart. I like Kevin Harlan. I don't know you you like and I think you like him because he's your Grinders. He's a grinder grind. This is Storyteller. I think he can make anything funny and he knows exactly who he is and I think his trip around all the comedy clubs with the email list and stuff how he literally he was an overnight celebrity in like 15 years. Talking a long time. So he is a grinder. I respect that I can imagine all you guys like in a circle before you guys do a show or something the way that he does like everybody want to be famous, but nobody want to put the work in and saying I can't hear you saying that and then I think he's become a bit of a cliche machine here a little bit towards the end here because he's turned into a full business. Yes. He's a brand but when he tells the story there's not a lot of people in keeps Graham. Yeah, and that's I enjoy storytellers a lot and I like Chappelle just because I mean Chappelle is one of the most one really artists one of the smartest. Next level of all time Buckshot. Why don't you do stand-up? I don't think I could do it. Well, I realize I had a can't write what a pussy this guy. I don't I don't think I could write I love the best game you are called best game ever called biggest game biggest game loud at Tulane Houston game was massive instant classic. They'll show that again at some point down the road. What's another game you've called that's like potential to be an instant classic. Any sport or any spy called the women's final for a couple years ago. That's my that's one of my things girl marieke ogunbowale shot at the buzzer to win the titles that when you Conga beat you could well that was the semis she hit a jumper two nights prior to be to measure time and then two nights after she hit another buzzer beater for the national time. Okay. There's a story in that that people would love to hear like them all towering over you maybe you interview them and the lady whatever she told you in the meeting and then she hits the game-winner again, like there's an easy stand-up story in there. That's But everybody immediately I've if maybe if I put some effort into it, I really I think half the battle for a lot of people is they just they they probably think they can't do this is this is my defeatist attitude coming back. So this is you when you're twelve so you're not gonna make my baseball see I told you were going to get this 12 this 12 year old Adam right now. Yeah, you need to beat 12 year old Adam. You need to be 32 year-old Adam here and know that it's a lot easier to get up there. Then people say it is everybody says it's tough because they might stink. That's not your fault. That's like everybody's like business is hard we're doing this is our everything's hard man. This is hard. This is hard like doing get this job and like everything's hard. You know, it's all it's all difficult. What Chuck we got to say life is hard. Once you figure that out. It becomes a lot easier. The hardest thing about stand-up is being able to get on the stage. Yeah, and I want to get up there usually people feel bad enough to laugh at the couple. Anyway would have little self-awareness McCall. This isn't going well. I'm gonna cut this early before they even like me. Imma get out of here. I wish more people would do that sure, but I think you would do very well. I was because I had the first stand-up special ever saw was bring the pain. No, Yes, so the when you when you see that you're like wow, this is really funny. Well now I will say that I am currently on a Hiatus from stand up due to Chappelle and Bill Burr. Okay, because I watched it and I said, well, I probably shouldn't get back on a stage for a little while if this is what the expectation is from people. So I am on a little bit of a Hiatus so I probably shouldn't be the one talking about this but I think you should get up there and do it. I think you'd be good man. I trip I'll put Chappelle up there too. What sorcery future write it. What do you think? What do you think? I don't know that's interesting. You call basketball. He called baseball you call the footballs. You call women final four is they're going to come at the I don't know this business. Well enough. Well, you just been come to you and they'll be like alright for your next contract. We want you to only do this or will they be like we I think I'm going to say that at some point. I think maybe I'll probably be the one to be like, hey, you know, what'd be good like, we just narrow it down a little bit just to maybe instead of doing six is that the evolution of the business though? We it's I don't know. It's I imagine it's hard to keep up six sports or seven sports for however many years you do it. And I like certain Sports and I want to kind of focus on those. Yeah, which one do you enjoy the most on its heart like the football basketball baseball combo, which is the three I grew up on the most I like all three of them. So for me, it's whatever season you're in. Whatever the next one is in those three you get older you look up to like Joe Buck does everything I grew up. I grew up on like probably Mike Tirico. Like when I first smooth, it feels like like Torico because he does everything and he does everything. Well Dan Schulman who works at ESPN I don't know that is why does not he does the World Series on radio to he's our main college basketball. Yeah, so he's built by Tau you'll see you'll see him with billis on every big college basketball game that we asked those two guys and then Ian Eagle at CBS he was he was the guy that kind of got me broke me into the business. He got me like an agent basically inadvertently without him knowing it. So I thank him for that. Yeah. Well, yeah, I mean, it's great like his kid is now the voice of the Clippers on radio. So it's so I could see both of them like during the NBA season job that is to get right now. Yeah right out of the gate. Yeah just beat A lot of LeBron man. I'm excited for that's going on with a Bronco. The Lakers are back there hot. That's the only game they've lost so okay good. I'm only back on the bus and I look back on them. No harm. No hockey games. I've never called a hawk interest because it's a lot of white people. Yeah, we did it. Yeah, is that what if that deterred me from calling a sport? We did we'd have limited our scope a long time ago. What is the thought though like your future? What's the dream job, I guess obviously. One of them showcase prime time, you know, probably a prime-time game somewhere. Is that because that's how it works right here. Is that gig? That's the that's the Pinnacle of your profession would love to have the chance to call a World Series and NBA finals and a Super Bowl a college football title of Wimbledon or something like that. You love to have some crack and I've listened I'm not I don't want to be greedy like I've gotten some big opportunity. I wouldn't be where I am. Like if they didn't take a chance on me. Yeah, like what like you're very grateful we're talking about like you want you want to do like the biggest possible. She like this. You get a chance to do the Super Bowl in this era where it's the most popular sport in America. It's got it gets the biggest audience consistently every week and for its biggest event and a hundred million people whatever hundred it used to be more than that before probably like 1990 was huge numbers. So you'd love to do that. And I don't like to compare ratings. I don't really care about that. It's just if that many people care that's cool. Yeah, you have a lot of people and you're guiding the game guy you're guiding people through Ooh one like that's a national holiday in America. Yeah, and you're the subject of that. I'm not not you personally your adjacent to the subject of that. But you're a part of that and you think you can handle the Super Bowl right now. I think you're good. Yes, I think you could too. You'll never get it within the next 20 years. Yeah be those. There's a reason those jobs. Don't get given away. Yeah, you have to be one of the best to do this and I don't think I'm that necessarily but I think I can handle this. So I think there's a lot of us that could be an alternative broadcast. We can find somewhere. Don't know. I don't think I'm breaking any news here, but you're probably going to be at the National Championship Game for college football this year. I've done the sideline broadcast on ESPN 2, you know, you're going to end up on it somehow there's a rope you into it. If you didn't know that already and frankly, I would love to have if because I've done that field past the last like three years. Yeah, and we rotate at a bunch of analyst it's a blast and you only have to do like a half a quarter if you want to what am I? Doing you're an analyst from the sidelines but you but we're looser especially like the show. We do like on Thursdays except with very little structure, huh, and we're on the sidelines the whole time. We're kind of like running up and down following the plates great to blast that does sound like it is it is a blast it is so much fun that is on the field right now and you guys should do like like a an alternative alternative of what just just commenting on him. You know, I like Cartman comments on TV commenting on something else tickets. It's for you guys. So you could watch the thing in your streaming live as well. He just hopped over a month Lemak trainer on the Alabama sideline. He Pat may have kicked the mask. Kick the mascot. That's amazing. Well Adam, I wish I was petrified to do this because I was like, I just I'm like I'm I can't hang with you guys. You guys are hilarious. No space had entertaining. Oh my God, we're done with it shows over where that we're sick of it. We don't need any of them more. Fuck you guys. Yes, okay guys stick. Yeah, they stick we're a bunch of stages and sella pass. You guys are awesome. So how does means you're an incredible story man? You really are you get a and they're really good at what you do. I like working with you guys man has been a blast and I've never met a human like you and that wow. That's what a what a nice thing to say to another person. Well, I don't I just I that is a tremendously like cool thing. I'm assuming I've met somebody like you before but I've never hung around like different, right? The nerdiness the ability to take those notes and study them and know everything I have never once had a friend like that ever and we're talking about from kindergarten all the way through just the in-depth detail of studying in the work when it comes like a school type thing never in my life. Have I ever met anybody so watching you're doing it's like it's literally just like watching a complete different world happen and it's very impressive very nice you to say buddy. Yeah now granted saying that I don't know how many of user out there like I don't You know what you do, we really are that crazy. Most people think I'm a Madman Burke. So now I'm talking about that. Geez why you gotta take it to that? That is terrible. I will say shout-out Chicago Public Schools. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. You became you're an incredibly you're a wizard to watch work in the amount of knowledge that you're able to jam into your brain and then do a game in the do another one is just Next Level. No, I appreciate it Adams Baron Kirk. I assume he's the same way that the light I bet that's still one of my favorites. He texted me and he's like, this guy's awesome. Well, To I did five minutes of them is like this guy's off. I did that boxing thing in there. Like will you go talk to a danann? I do you know was loud you thought the name was Adam Van Kirk Well, the lady said would you mind doing an interview with Adnan virk? Yeah, and in fact, but we were at a fight. Here's a bunch of you heard. That's how you heard Adam Van. Yeah, and then as I walked up and I saw him, I'm like no, I know that guy. I know there's no way white Dutch guy. No, I'm not talking about that either talk about I knew him. Let's get it. I can tell you one story before we're bringing in the race. My first job out of college was in a small town in Northwest Iowa Spirit Lake Iowa town of 3,000. Oh Spirit like summertime. It's the dirtiest like party is place and it's restaurants bars and all this and then the wintertime it is nobody will go there if they are got paid to do it awful awful weather. So my first job I got hired there they call me to tell me I get the job. I tell my Add I was like Hey Dad, I got the job. He's like, hey, congratulations. That's awesome 10 minutes later. They called me back and I was like, oh, no, they tell me to go ahead. I was like did I get fired? Right like no nothing like that. So would you be willing to use in on-air name? Would you be willing to change your name for for on the air stage name the stage name? And I was I listened like Dan Patrick. That's his middle name. His name is Daniel Pew Daniel Patrick Pew. He goes by Dan Patrick. Sounds great. What a lot of guys have done that. So. It's not so I was and I was leaving Fabian Plum High School. I go by Zito Jose Perez changed it. That's salad. You'll live it live and die by it. I like it. I respected where we think about you so they asked me like, what would you think of Adam Kelly top of the morning is here. That's what we would have called The Morning Show. So I was like, I don't know about that. Let me let me call you back and my dad is listening because what were they asking I was like they what do you think? You think what would you think of the they asked like you to change your name? There you go, son. I got to tell you. I I'm happy that you got this job. But if you if you change your name, I'm gonna be pretty fucking bitch Adam Kelly a nice Irish kid. I that nice Irish kid whose parents are from Pakistan. If you like to pick a stage name would you know the Adam Kelly wasn't bad by any means. I just can't another one. I think if you listen to the room here just quit. It'll say it was sighs. Everybody is better than everybody puckered up real hard one. I like hey strong the global the Mortal Combat style. I like that a lot. I like what it sounds like quick. Shout out to Rich Eisen for not getting it right my mind and clearly my career crushing it. Thanks, bro. Thanks. Thank you so much for coming and we're the bad guys are awesome. Adam Amin. Ladies and gentlemen. Huge thanks to Adam Amin for joining us the Washington Nationals just hit a dong shot that takes another doing the car shift thing three two, World Series top of the seventh Washington Nationals in H-Town the Houston Astros Stadium. 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We have a future Hall of Famer first-ballot hall-of-famer in the room a guy who was a teammate of mine. Incredible locker room guy. Not only a four-time All Pro in a Super Bowl champ. Not only a guy that was on Team Jordan, which is incredible by the way a guy that was a good locker room guy a guy that actually got me home one night when I was too drunk to get home myself. Ladies and gentlemen Superstar Dwight Freeney white. How's it going man? You're here for FanDuel. Absolutely. Which is a partner of mine as well the best place to gamble online and it's sports book. If it's in your state, you should do FanDuel. You've always been incredible Gambler. You know what I find my moments find my little pockets to go ahead and throw a little wager on stuff. I think my definitely have stories. Yes my favorite time ever. He's a gatorade bottle shot into a trash can with Austin Collie. It was a double or nothing situation. You were ice cold and at one moment, Austin Collie, That the number was too big and he was scared to say no more double down and you hit like a unit like a $20,000 gatorade bottle shot. I don't know the number but ha ha but you make you make bets into their uncomfortable and when they're uncomfortable also on the form just goes away. I'll just yeah, so your everybody knows Dwight Freeney, right? You're a man who completely revolutionize the game out of Syracuse whenever you were on a field the other quarterback had nightmares. We were told that by numerous coaches that came into our facility. The Chuck Pagano whenever he got to the Colts literally told the story about how other teams cornerbacks whenever they're playing against Robert Malthus and Dwight Freeney. They would have nightmares all week. What was it about your game that you think made you so different in the Trailblazer at defensive end. Well, the thing is that it's you know before me okay there weren't a lot of guys drafted at my size. Okay under sighs, I guess, you know for me, you know now they will be drafted but it will be more situational. Okay, they'll be third down. I'm in third down maybe take a linebacker who's an outside linebacker and a 4-3 scheme who doesn't really rush I let's put him at defense when he seems like he's a quick fast guy. So when I was drafted, you know high at the under sized 6-1, what have you and made it to be an every down guy? You know, that's what kind of set the you know, the standard of look it's not about how tall you are. This is not basketball. I'm not trying to block shots and grab rebounds here. I have natural no Leverage. Underneath guys, this is something that someone hadn't seen before and now I can take advantage of yeah, Xena looked up a static because that's what Zito's our stats guy. It could barely read but he's a good sign College good with numbers good with numbers, you know, but like 700 some pounds in college. Is that accurate? Yes, so to say somebody's undersized when they have a seven and a half months very interesting situation, but I guess that's now after getting to watch you. I don't think I was young enough to see the guys beforehand there had to be big Because they assume you couldn't stop the run. I assume that I so what it was is they had this prototype of 6-5 280 pounds. Okay, that's basically as a defensive end. That's what you had had to be to be dressed. So basically you had to be Michael Strahan. Okay, and once you have success at that height or that size then that just became what the standard is for years and years and years to come so there was no guy who was 6 1 playing, you know, they wow, he's not tall enough. He can't see the quarterback. He's not going to be able to see the running back when he gets engaged with the offensive line. So when I got there and it was successful at it then all of a sudden, it's Mathis come. Do you see all these other guys who are getting drafted high or what have you and their quote unquote undersized and making plays any guys you enjoy watching right now that are in the league. You know what I like I like how Mak plays Mac from Chicago. He's a great he hasn't done a tremendous amount of you know intensity. I think Aaron Donald is also a guy that you know, he's on game right here. Let me tell you something. I mean he if I order had Aaron Donald at d-tackle, they couldn't even line up and play football. The guy is a complete Beast. What he does is how they slide a protection to him. He can't stop him on run plays. You can't stop won't pass plays people don't realize how that shrinks The Playbook. Okay, when you go into a game and you watch film watching a team. They'll have every single play this play action pass this past this that and the other and all of a sudden when they play guys like me Robert probably like Aaron all of a sudden that play but goes from 40 place now down to 20 plays because 20 those plays they can't run because they don't have the time to do it. It's a game changer and you've mentioned that if you had him a d-tackle that would help because there was times in your last couple years with us where they would run tight end with chip you tackled have you and then a running back with chip you as well crazy. It is funny, you know, John Turturro. You know, I legendary d-line coach to coach him for years. We were talking about it and he said, you know, there's a question that I had to my said. Hey JT, I'm seeing all type of can we go back into film and look and see how guys before me dealt with that type of protection whether it be a receiver tight end coming and he said Dwight that never happened that was actually created just for you. That's real pretty and I said wait a minute just for me. So I just nothing I can watch didn't he? He said no, he said you were just going to have to deal with this on the fly. So now when I see protections like that and they're still doing it. I know from that perspective between me and Robert we pretty much screwed all the other different because now I laugh and see how what they have to do with knowing that you know that kind of started with me when they motion a guy from nowhere and all of a sudden it's like now I can look outside in the quarterbacks here and I have to worry about somebody Chipping me on the outside. So when you have an interior guy like Aaron Donald who doesn't have to do with that is that's why he can wreck everything because you can't do it. He can't do anything with that. So you are a game changer coming in for being an undersized and then going out you screw them all over there. Like I said, you got to deal with that and that Patriots defense is dominant. I mean, they're leading that team up there and he talks about how before the game Belichick will call like five players in and he would show up on the on like a teller straw or Or whatever. It is television, you get it and be like hey whenever this guy moves his right foot back. It's a run whenever this guy's left foot is forward. It's a pass and it's something small is that was a tell that they were able to use for an entire game and be dominant. Was there anything that you look for in games? You were like, you know what this is going to help me out going forward. Well, I mean that's kind of what you do is you study film going into the week and you know, I was blessed to have guys like Tony Dungy and John Turner link. Yeah, you know a legend at what he did is will find the littlest. This little thing a key, you know and would say, okay. Let's see if this holds up first quarter. Okay, it's holding up, you know place is kind of like it could be something small just like how you said, you know, whenever the quarterback has his hands up here and shotgun, you know, it's going to be a pass but if he has it down here and then put it up then it's going to be a run and we'll just key up key on that and if it holds up good night, that is it. All right, if I say hold up in me. It has to be like 80% 80% is around that thing as doesn't matter that 20% who cares 80% it means I'll do anything 80% 80% if they're doing something 80% I'm all-in. Wow, that's good odds, by the way, you're here for FanDuel. 80% is good. Obsolete. Yeah. Yeah great. I would take that any day of the week. I had a hundred percent against Troy Polamalu. He ruined my life so he can go to hell still to this day great player terrible human squash your dream speaking of squash and dreams. The Colts are back. There's a as a Mount Rushmore of Indianapolis Colts, which you are you're in there. You're one of the Staples of the Indianapolis Colts and people think of that has to be good to have the team back in relevance a little bit though. Absolutely. I mean when you're part of something for so many years, you know it you feel like you're still part of it, you know your post still part of that DNA and I'm sure you feel the same way. It's just you know, those that emotion doesn't go it stays with you, you know. And when you see them succeed you feel part of you that you've succeeded well succeed you feel great when they win, you know, a lot of those guys that are there now were there when I was playing so when I see Guy like Frank Wright or I see you got like how our mud men you know guy I played with his Robert Malthus still there. It makes me feel good because I want to see those guys succeed in the way that we did things back in the day and Frank is pretty much, you know a statement and the way he goes about Coaching guys is very similar to how Tony used to kind of talk to guys, you know, not yelling and screaming no need for all of that treating everybody like men. So when I went there this offseason in training camp, I saw that and I saw that he had those guys, you know believing in what they were doing. Yeah. It's not just the players and coaches. It's equipment managers the athletic trainer. Absolutely. It's good to see everybody succeed over there. That's anytime people like you still feel the cold. So I'm like, yeah. I got a lot of friends in that building whose happiness. Depends on whether or not they're good at football and 100% in the game of football is as you know is already stressful as it is. Yes, you know someone you have you can have a family type of atmosphere somewhere where you can go to work and be actually somewhat happy about doing that. Obviously Sundays different you go to Sunday. You can play for free you can I've always said that it doesn't matter you your that's why you love the game. But Monday through Saturday can be tough when you're walking into a building where you just don't want to be in based on the mentality of certain coaches or what have you. So you have a place where you actually love the folks that you're around and it's a family atmosphere. It feels so much better. But what do you feel about Nick Bowser? I know making small it and it's crazy because you know at the defensive end position and outside linebacker what he does, it's tough to transition from college to the pros because it's joints ligaments that one well, well it's that but it's also a lot of times in college that your skills are not that, you know, you're just you know, Running over, you know High, you know High School great. So what have you College? However, but it's this more athleticism, you know. Yeah, so, you know when you saw when you see them, he's actually using some good technique and fundamentals as he's going through which he obviously he's been taught and it's makes sense. His father was a Colton played in the NFL his brother played in the NFL. So his skill set is a lot higher than what a rookie would have coming in because As players who have been in the league, two, three, four five years that just run just run around and try to make plays. He's actually using his hands his hips and all those links. Jon Tester said last night about TJ watt that he got a chance to see behind the scenes on what made a great player great with his brother JJ. Absolutely and I think that's a big deal knowing what happens behind the scenes because everybody can see what happens on Sunday and on TV and I think in any business by the way, people can see like what happens whenever it's in Spotlight, but those hours of work in a way you have to take care of your body and the way you have to treat everything. Thing is what make the grades grades you were impeccable at this the way you took care of your body. Did you kind of know early like hey, I'm going to use science to help me as well. Well, you know what? I was blessed to having a lot of people around me that kind of knew what the deal was, you know, and I was always you know, I'm a guy that always wanted to find a way to get better, you know, and I didn't want to give it any excuse to why on Sunday when I line up and play the game. I didn't want anything else to be left to chance. Yeah, you know, whatever happens in the game happens in the game. But I have complete and total control over everything that happened up until the game. So that means how I prepared what I ate how I lifted how much sleep I got those things I can control. So therefore I'm going to put myself in the best situation to succeed on Sunday so that I said, okay. I did my job Monday through Saturday now, it's fine for me just to finish off the job on Sunday you were ahead of the game because we got these now that set up everything here you're doing this Shaker eating this food you doing this back in the day there was pizza and wings the night before games people are drinking beer the night before games. I was in the league when that was happening and then by the end of my career, it was a completely different ball game. You had a lot of scientists in there doing a lot of things you had before way ahead of your time. You had a special diet you had that people made for you you had to water that I assume had high pH levels in it. I mean, it was awesome to what I used to look at for any hair on his back room and come out with his bag and his bottle and I'm like What is that special sauce? Exactly, but the thing is is that I was like I said, I've been blessed to have some real intelligent people around me that taught me the right things and understood is that look the food that you eat. That's the fuel that is going to get your going to need to perform at your best on Sunday. So that's all I had to hear because I'm saying okay pizza and wings really good by the way, which are great which are absolutely Great, but do you want to play your best on Sunday? Or do you want to play your best on Friday at the dinner table your wings and say okay. This is my 15th Wing, you know a 20th way. I'm breaking the record, but I'm not forgetting about Sonny. I think do that after the game know after the game. You had a great time. Yes, all that good stuff, but not leading up to the game. No way. You know, that's just my mentality. I talk about those plane rides home from away games how awesome they use. My good so much fun man. That was an absolute blast. One of my favorite memories is you playing towards with Rahim Brock. I these through these 200 G's right or sitting in their own section playing cards and everybody that was sitting around was asleep or whatever and I was wide awake and I want to have a good time. So I go to the back wherever they were and I literally just start watching. I felt like a weirdo, you know and friend who's like a what's going on man. You want to play I'm like no. No, I started looking at the numbers that you guys are playing for him. I'm a pretty good card player, but I am not that That's how I would get you in. All the Vets will be sitting in the back we're playing and then we'll get a young guy just walking back on as I come. What are you guys doing? Oh, you want to learn what an incredible game those times in the locker room are things that people you can't duplicate right? Like I have my boys here. It's incredible. We don't play a game. We don't have like Big celebration. Is there any part of you that mrs. That and how have you adapted and that's the thing and that's what people and you hit it right on the head Pat. It's those types of things where you're experiencing things with your teammates who are going through the same exact struggle that you're going through the same emotions that you're going through and doing these things these things that seem like, oh you're playing cards, but you're also binding, you know, and you're also knowing you're in the same mental space. Case these are things that you do together and you will remember forever because it's like those plane rides, you know, and I you know, it was just something that was epic epic epic plane rides there where you know, you're in your feelings because you lost so you're in your feelings because you want you know, and it's just like you're sharing that with those who went through the same struggle or success that you went through and it's something that you'll never forget and is no replacing that because that's just how it is by the way on this plane ride. Got people are making you know, 50 million in their career. You got people making a hundred fifty three hundred thousand dollars all breathing the same air all in the same space feeling the same exact way. It's a beautiful piece of time people from Compton people from Louisiana people who are very wealthy grown up people for in that little plane is just like this epitome of like Perfect Harmony and that's what I'm saying and is different because what happens is it's different than other because you know after practice you go home you go do what you got to do. Whatever that is, but in this plane ride, there's no going anywhere. We're all together for the he's stuck it and it's kind of like, you know what let's have fun and enjoy this moment and you don't realize how much you enjoyed it until it's gone and it's done, you know, so those are one of the things and I also say the other thing I miss is is just Sunday and I told people this all the time. It's like a drug. It's like, you know think about Gladiator for those who don't play think How do you think of Braveheart that feeling of 80,000 Romans or whatever have you screaming your name screaming that Adrenaline Rush that you get in those moments can never be duplicated ever ever again. So it's that's what you miss that type of feeling you told me one time and it's a quote that is literally stuck with me today. And I think you you said it in a throwaway comment, but it was during card game and we're it was before primetime game and he said when the lights come on the Stars come out. That's really what you said and I have literally learned since then like if we're in a prime-time game, there was zero chance at Dwight Freeney wasn't going to have an incredible SEC. There's there's a zero chance because in his prime time what's going on over here? We have breaking news. The Jets are looking to get rid of Le'Veon Bell before the trade deadline. Whoa, that's very interesting. Hey, he's quick. Yeah, you just got there. Are you back James Conner just got hurt last night. Who knows how healthy is? Is Les going to go back to the Pittsburgh Steelers or is he going to go to a contender die-hard Steeler fans? Oh, really? Yeah, that's it. We was ever talk of you being traded. Any point does the day's trade deadline? Not that bad when we play we were down and so we didn't there wasn't trades like that especially in our organization. Bill polling wasn't trade anybody. How do you think that would feel by the way just be told your family has to move to another city because we decided get rid of you depends on how good the team was I'm celebrating. You know, or I'm not you know in the end, you know, it's we understand the business but it's not like basketball baseball where you know, it's actually real real part of it. It's a surprise when it happens we'll have you on bail was paid a lot of money and then that GM was promptly fired. So the people that are in charge of the Jets right now aren't the people that gave him the money which is the situation you ended up in with the Indianapolis Colts your last season, you talked about a little bit during a commercial break. I don't expect you to dive into it as much but your last couple years in the NFL you were transferred from a DND. Outside linebacker. Yeah, and it was a huge deal mean for me. It's you know, my last year Indianapolis. When we hired Chuck Pagano Hoosiers a great guy great guy great great guy. I got put in a situation where he wanted to use his system. His system was what was successful at the Ravens? Okay, which was a 3/4 type of Defense where you know, you had to do different things. So for me being a defensive end for all those years now asked to stand up and be an outside linebacker. Was a big deal. Yeah. Okay. So now all of a sudden you're trying to teach an old guy all dog, which I was already old. Okay at that point, you know, 11 years in or whatever. It was new tricks. And now all of a sudden I got branded somehow as an outside linebacker. So for the next three years, you know, it was San Diego. I we need an outside linebacker. Let's look at the names of outside linebacker. Oh Dwight Freeney outside linebacker. I'm like, okay, you guys want me to be awesome next to you know fast forward. I'm running down the field. Covering Gronkowski own 40-yard, you know this melts chasing him down like what am I doing? It's hilarious but it is what it is, you know, unfortunately, you know for me but you know, fortunately I got to meet new people new new experiences new things. So, you know, I don't think anything happens for no reason and you know what it is what it is, but what I love to stay a defensive and absolute and you're one of those humans that breathe that Elite are that not a lot of humans do Tom Brady. There's a lot of chatter about I'm leaving the Patriots after this year still playing incredibly well, by the way, although the defense is dominant. What do you think about the thought of a premier? We got like a minute and a half left? So I thought I left you a lot of time to answer this good talk show host. What do you think about the thought of Tom Brady potentially leaving the Patriots and what he's been able to do for this long with the TB 12 and everything like that. Well, I don't see it happening leaving. I don't see it happening. I to be honest with you. Why is that? Well, you know what? He's been there for a long time, okay. And you know, you hear chatter all the time from the Patriots year in and year out about this guy that guy this person is unhappy will build check return and all over you. They return he can come they keep continue doing their thing. You know, it'll be hard for me to see Tom pick up and move to a different organization. Like I said old dog new tricks. You don't know what he's going into, you know, that could potentially tarnish if you can towards that type of Career, you know all of a sudden he goes into a different system and he has issues with the offense coordinator throwing all types of interceptions and pigs than the questions different things. I don't see it happening. I think he's at a good place in a good space at the Patriot. People are saying he could potentially end up with the Cowboys. That's obligatory Cowboy talk for the last hour here. We just snuck that in didn't didn't get tax deal done it during a bye week that said distraction. I don't know. I mean it can be I mean, there's a lot of money any. Yeah, I think anything It's not related to the actual game in the moment can be a distraction, but the Cowboys are used to that they do they live you said distraction. I was born into this trap. All right. We're going to wrap this up pretty your great dude. I appreciate you having me if you're gonna gamble gamble a fan duel because they're regulated. They got the best odds, absolutely and friends about the drain a putt to boost some odds on the FanDuel mobile app here shortly whenever we get off the air. We're heading to Waco, Texas tomorrow. To call the Baylor West Virginia game on Halloween night should be a lot of fun and I believe there's some big news coming this weekend too. Well thanks to my friend Nate ladies and gentlemen, first-ballot hall-of-famer. Tell you what He's a good dude man. Send me a limo one time when I was drunk downtown to give me home. I put cards with them before not that one we talked about on the plane ride. It was big that gatorade bottle shot. It was wild. He was just a good do to pull Superstar very smooth handsome and knows his shit inside and out can't thank Dwight Freeney enough for stopping by appreciate what he did to boost the mods to on FanDuel for the sack prop bet for the Colts used to be plus 200 knots plus 300 thanks to Dwight Freeney Colts will get three. X I believe they will especially with Dwight Freeney is good graces. Jim irsay announced shortly after he was on our show. That he will be entering the Colts Ring of Honor congrats to him. It'll be free need a I believe they're playing a dolphin smart marketing get them in there for Dwight Freeney. Go check him out. If you're an Indianapolis, if not, send us a tweet. Try to make us laugh. 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On today’s show, Pat and the guys record from Waco, Texas ahead of tonight’s West Virginia vs. Baylor game. They are joined in the box truck by Pat’s Thursday Night Football play-by-play man, one of the most interesting men at ESPN, Adam Amin. They chat about what it was like growing up Muslim in the Chicagoland area, and the impact that 9/11 had on his life, he tells the story about how his father immigrated from Pakistan and had to save money for several years before he could bring the rest of his family over, and he dispels some common misconceptions about being Muslim. They also chat about how things have been going in the Thursday Night booth, what Adam’s dream job would be in terms of calling games, some of the most memorable games he’s called, and he tells a few hilariously stories about his career before he got to ESPN in a very deep and incredible interview (6:36-55:09). Also included is an interview in studio with Super Bowl Champion, 7x Pro Bowler, 4x All-Pro, member of the NFL 2000s All Decade team, newly minted member of the Colts Ring of Honor, and Pat’s former teammate, Dwight Freeney. They discuss the change of the defensive end position throughout his career and why guys like him made such an impact in their careers, what he thinks of this years Indianapolis Colts team and why he thinks they are built for success, he remembers a few of his better gambling stories while with the Colts, and chats about the NFL trade deadline, and why he doesn’t believe the NFL trade market will explode the way fans want it to (57:55-1:20:36). Don’t forget to send pictures of your Halloween costumes to Pat and the guys using the hashtag #CoolCostumeCuz for a chance to win a $500 gift card to store.patmcafeeshow.com. Come and laugh with us, and have a safe and Happy Halloween. Cheers. 