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I don't know I think so. We are so excited to have you for the season finale. You probably don't even remember me because it's been so long. But my name is Ali Connor Bradford. I'm here to host the show. Hi, how you guys live? Edie were totally here founder Kevin Maria Maria Maria. I just heard a host name of Maria. Hi everybody. I'm Matt Maher. Happy to be here Carolina is she has a big audition tomorrow? She's really spread send her the Good Vibes. We wish her. Well, alright, and of course welcome to you, you guys know my schpeel but I gotta say it out loud just in case for whatever reason this is your first app or show for Arrow and it shouldn't be but if it is this side of the table belongs to you you co-host with us. So I got to do is join us in the chat use hashtag a BTV arrow on everything social media and of course You're watching live during the chat, if not leave comments below because you co-host the show with us. There's so many people in the chatter right just a few shoutouts dancer fruit Drew Leonard is here Jenna James, Joby big face hundreds Ivan soda. Hey Bobby whose husband just so many people and Twitter. We have star. Yes, even archers alley on Twitter arches alley for over the summer news alerts. Wait Whit almost said almost said a bad word. They're twisting. Stephen does my team. Do you were totally so thank you for that. And also Matt Shamu reached out on me on Instagram. So she imagined. Hey, so as you guys know that this Mike has a very lingering odor and it doesn't smell very good. I just want you to know just let you and ETS someone like Hawk though P. Oh my God. Okay, let's talk about the show. So first and foremost great opening scene. Yeah. I really liked the cinematography of just like all of our heroes. It out. They all do the run and they jump off the roof and we're okay. This is a nice start. Yes. Hmm. Haven't been so happy with some of the occurrences and the most recent reasons, but that was a good start. That is cool. It was cool to see them all. There was a lot of it seems like they said hey, we've got this not gone and Gary and he's really good. He's a good stunt man it like having people like jump off a building and then swing somewhere and they're like, Gary. Let's use Gary as much as we can because they did that like five times get each time. It was great. Surprise to Gary Gary the swinger. Yeah, he's great. I love that opening scene when they're two they're going to get caught again. And I was like, come on. I know and I like the parallel that they did with we talk about this while you were in for Callaway. We're going on about like on his travels later y'all so stay tuned but we've started to like the flash work. They even me has started to like the flash-forwards more and more. You've met you miss it. The better ones you've missed the better watch them at home. So but again, I love how they did the parallels in this episode and they get all throughout but that was cool with it. Get weird. Like the guy we're Connor God. He is hot. He is hot. Y'all maybe young so so now he's over 18. It's legal here. Okay, okay. So I follow him on Instagram, but it would endanger the knife and she like broke out and like that actress it is so cool to watch her fight. Yeah. Yeah. I really like her a lot. Yeah. I really really she's just engaging and she got does a hair flip and it looks awesome. It was lost during the first episode. I was in yeah. All right. Let's take it back a little bit. Okay. I got ahead of myself hashtag who I love to hate. Hold on. Oh God, I gotta think of one. Okay. Audience. Yeah, I I don't know because the Miko died and I hated her so I wasn't mad. I was glad she died. So I wasn't I really liked this episode. And so it's hard for me too. I think maybe who I love to hate a little is Felicity Felicity Smoak Industries. But no, but I hate her because she reminded me of this episode how much I love her and all of her together and then she fleed mean to be with Oliver. No, I'm just pushing you away. So like I love her and I hate her but she's leaving makes me sad. Well then go ahead. Mine was I forget his name, but the guy who came and took all of our way. Oh that meter space monitor, but it just made me so sad. Yeah, that's like the end of everything. Well, I want to say my but I want to get to the chapter. So you guys tell me who do you love to hate. What did they say some love to hate Amico? She was a week villain from Black Magic Lisa. Yasko hicker. He says Amico and then Hayward Wang says the monitor Stephen Starr says, I can't think of one same boat as this guy. Thank ya and then somebody else said. Oh Lisa said monitors close second. Oh and then everyone saying the monitor, okay, there's like my okay. - what about you? I hashtag love to hate a thing. Not a person. Okay, but when I put some thought to it and I'm watching it. I actually be where y'all I'm ready for it. I actually love to hate. I don't even love I just hate. Okay, let's be honest Amigos motive. Like if you really think about her from a villain perspective, I just feel like getting all talk about that. Yeah, keep going. I love this. I feel like she wasn't a good big bad for an entire season. Like if it was a couple episode Arc, it might make sense. But for her to take down an entire city and want to melt people's faces off with this bio nuclear weapon all on the count of the fact that she's trying to get even with all of her like that doesn't make sense. He didn't do anything to you. You got your revenge on Dad. You killed that Dad Dad won't let you know the family Okay, cool. So now you want to rub your brother's name in the dirt by killing people. Because wha like then when she's dying, she says I always wanted to be a queen so you do like but that makes sense. Yeah, like her whole. Yeah. I like she like that said it was a waste of a villain. She like flipped so quickly to like they were fighting and this is like this has been her goal for so long like she's hated Oliver. She wants the whole city to die. And then also, you know gives her one little speech and she's like, oh, okay. Yeah, like he he swatted away something that was like she got knifed. Yeah, and then I what did they say? It was another knife. Yeah, and he swatted it away and all of a sudden she was converted. Yeah, and it was like, huh? But yeah, I really think they could have done, you know, we talked about we got excited when they said the Ninth Circle because we thought right now believes fastens thing. But yeah, they didn't go for with that. And this I thought I have not been the biggest fan of almost honestly the second half of Arrow. This season has been rough, right? It's been slow going we've talked about we feel like they're regurgitating plotlines. This was one of the best episodes. I feel like the season and yeah, As soon as a Mako died halfway through the episode then it was like, okay now we actually can get to Arrow stuff instead of having to deal with that. The episode was so good when she died. Like I said she died. So yeah, I was like, let's episode. It's like back to like original Arrow amazingness, right? And that's something by the way against the actress by any means go. She's great at all. She's fantastic. I just feel like when you're writing a villain you always have to have a why like why they behave a certain way and I just feel like the why They gave her wasn't strong enough to do some of the things she was doing like in the past. It was refreshing that no one's trying to blow up the city. Like all of our other video videos buildings were trying to like do an undertaking where they exploded the city and this so taking the approach of you know, melting people's faces off. That's it creative and it's cool is different. So I commend them. It's just that her being the one responsible. It just didn't feel like it would be a genuine. She wasn't power-hungry like you have a Our core somebody whose power hungry. Yeah, that makes sense. Damian darhk-- was amazing. Yeah. I'm in the chat. People are saying black magic says, can we talk about how weak she was physically to Oliver has been stab slice shop burned blown up punch kicked countless times and Amico got poked once and then she died but she didn't survive on an island For Five Years Learning. How do we turn exactement? Ivan said, she's not Oliver. Yeah. Yeah. She definitely I mean we talked about things the last episode where he's had it way worse and she had oh, I'm so yeah, she's done. So best of luck to that actress glad that Amico is done. Let's not no more siblings for Oliver. Let's just put it right in there again. We're done with all of her siblings unless you monster any day any day any day any day. I need a good point Ali Kona Bradford. Glad you're back. Welcome back. Welcome back. Thanks. Okay. So now Like broke down the entire leg episode in some senses we can talk about the finer details cool to see Echo Calum back, although really nice, but it definitely did feel like this episode was tying up a lot of loose ends and I even said to you guys it just felt like we ended the entire like the show should be done now. Yeah, not that I love Arrow. I don't want it to be cancelled. I know there's only 10 more episodes, but didn't you feel like there'd be room for 10 more episodes because everything was just like Sealed up it felt like a finale its series finale. Yeah very much did so I'm we can talk about the ending later because we got one right now, but are we can't I don't know what you tell me but it was it makes me I thought it was it was great to just see it was just great to see that Oliver kind of that was the first time I'd seen him be so appreciative at the dream and I know it felt that I think might feel like finale Like a graduation speech like I literally thought someone was going home. But you know, he really that he realized kind of his legacy was this team but also in that it is like it would be timed. I guess you have to talk about the end because it's like the big point but it's like it is kind of like well we know Oliver is going to die. I mean the I don't know. I don't know that's a whole that but no, but the answer that question right because this whole entire season for all the flash-forwards we just assumed that Oliver was dead right talk about his legacy. But we saw him in the in like Legends 42 or whatever. We saw him with his little one arm, you know, we know he's alive. Well Legends 40 chat help me out. We saw we know that he's alive because he's like old and gray and has like the long beard or whatever. Right? And but one arm right on can weaken someone back me up on this, but even though like separating that and just talking about arrow for two seconds and saying like this entire season in the flash-forwards. We were led to believe Oliver. Her said Oliver's dead, right and even at the end of the episode when the what's his name the calculate no monitor. Thank you. Samantha are at the end right? So when he came and he said, you know, your death is inevitable, but your death can save somebody like yeah cool, then I'm still like okay Oliver died, but then you see Felicity leave with the monitor to go finally be with Oliver again, which means he actually is alive just in another dimension. So yeah the chat thank you guys. It was a different timeline and now he has been changed. So I hope so. So yes, it's kind of what spoiler alert but I'm sorry, but the Russo Brothers said that it's lifted. So if you haven't seen endgame close your ears, but don't come after me because I said my six we could talk about it afterwards. But I mean that's what people are freaking out and Marvels that they've introduced multi universes and that's what they basically didn't and game and so if you're new to that actually DC comics DC kind of was doing they've been doing it for a long time. And so that they kind of were starting that before so but I just say that if you saw the end gaming you kind of understood how there was a multiverses same kind of thing here. Yeah in that way. So I guess he is alive somewhere here somewhere and Felicity is going to be with him, right which is nice. But yeah, the monitor is this kind of mean he's like 3 billion years old. He's just character this kind of all-knowing omnipotent. I mean, he's really almost like a god or something like that. That so unless something major happens, but if the monitor says you're going to die, yeah, probably that version of Oliver could be very well being and that's a whole other conversation for Infinite Crisis and all that kind of stuff but it's so dust for like arrows ending as a comic nerd and someone who's read Infinite Crisis and like digestive that I'm actually like the I'm like super psyched. I'm like Joe Jonesy now for Arrow they kind of reinvigorated for me for the next season because I think we kind of mentioned this I feel like probably arrows going to be kind of the home base for crisis because I feel like that's good that's going to be more than just a two-episode thing. Do you think it's going to be the whole season I think possibly could I think we're going to I think one of you said I think we're gonna get a lot of flash-forwards. I think that he know I think that it's going to be present time. But the present time is going to be in the hands of the new team which we saw in the Flash. Forwards which is going to be black star. It's going to be William William. Whatever his new code name is about to be and of course Joseph David Jones. Who's hot Connor Thank You Bronze Tiger son. Yeah, it's just like shirtless working out in his Instagram. It's amazing, you know, all of these guys Instagrams you just some thirsty. At least he's honest. Yeah, dehydrated still love you Ivan. I'll never cheat on you Ivan Soto. That's all his number one, like took my train of thought you were talking about the new team you were naming each of the they're not going to flash wolves are gonna be the president now and Oliver will in turn become a flash. Back, so the only time will see Oliver will be like in a flashback that actually will be kind of kind of cool cool. But at the same time it would not be Arrow anymore. It would be black star. Yeah or whatever and the sad part is we won't be seeing any more Felicity. Well, we know we're not that's just yeah, I mean, yeah, we're not pointing. Well it is. Yeah. I know this is some point let's talk a little bit about like can we talk a little bit about the flash-forwards? Yeah. That's actually what I wanted. Okay, great. I'm sorry. I'm sorry your cellie I got you. With the lady I just mansplain. I'm an asshole. We share a weird flash Ward. I guess you guys like it now. I haven't jumped on the bandwagon yet. I was oh God. I don't know why he's like this some of the dialogue. I was starting to get bored with the conversation. It's so funny I missed you. People are asking where your left arm is by the way, so I think it's your natural cleaning. It would be a gift one day. Yeah, it is. It's right here guys. No II like I like Matt didn't like them at first they have grown on me will I watch the spin off nothing, but I do like me. I think she did a great job. I like the relationship with William. I Like I just I liked it all. Well, I watch the spin-off. I don't know. I don't know. I too love her. They've got a thing to have some really cute guys on there, but that's correct. But there's so many good TV out there. You gotta do. Yeah, you gotta like I me Veronica Mars is coming back. I've got Pro. I've got priorities also, but I what they have done a good job why I think Arrow kind of kind of lost itself a little bit is that it became so Amico phone. Guest and not really kind of about the relationships between the team members, but what they did do is they all the flash-forwards all the flash-forwards were about were just a relationships. Yeah, Mia and William kind of finding their mom figure out who their dad was Connor talk, you know, it was all about these people kind of figuring out what their legacy is to these parents that we know and love and so that's what they did a good job as they kind of hooked me into this into these relationships and but But in that I think it kind of then there were like it was like, okay these characters were going to talk because you when you're writing this kind of thing. This is kind of the problem with a lot of people Game of Thrones right now, you either kind of ripe for characters or write for plot and it's hard to really get to be very talented to manage both and it's like the flash-forwards. They said let's do character Arrow. Let's just do plot and it was just a lot of those boring but it's boring. I did think they did a good job when Roy handed Amia the the bow and arrows and was like, You know, you're going to need these I felt like it was very much about like passing the torch Oh Yeah from all over to me and it was like a very well done seen because it had been such parallels throughout the whole episode. So I did like that like plot thing but I mean, I don't know. I have a question for you guys little random, but because you mentioned Roy and it's something that stuck out to me, so it's been a while since we've seen Roy in the field outside of recently, right and so few episodes ago Felicity. Was saying something about Roy and she's like, yeah, he's really good at that park or thing. And then I notice all of his choreography. All of a sudden now is like tricking which is part of parkour and I'm like was he like that before because I feel like his style was somewhat similar to Oliver. Yeah, and now all the sudden like because they said it they have him specifically doing stuff where he's like side to side wall run Gainer like it's weird because I'm like, I don't remember him being so parkour he was doing kiss before he was doing it. That's like kind of a running joke that I was reading that Roy always has to do unnecessary parkour. So I think that it's beautiful great job, but I think it had it slowly turned into that and I think that's why they mentioned it because they had seen it a lot me that was enough for me their rights you like he's been gone. He's been working on parkour and I was like, okay like that's all I know but I like I don't even know how to punch so he was training really hard to jump off walls. But yeah, but yeah, he's it's cool like like I was at last episode. We like jumped into the pit and like shot that thing like you smoke the it's great. I love it. Matz. Matz, Jam. Hay says. Yes, he did a flip saving Thea the first time Roy has always been doing unnecessary flips as black. Magic Orlando. William says Roy has always been extra. So I guess that's good but it's extra extra right because it stood out to me and that's why I was like remember this guy's but but yeah, I guess since the beginning has been doing this but into that the reason I said because he said Roy I want to go back to the fact that now or focusing more on the flash or like before it was this much of the show and as the seasons gone on it's become bigger, which is fine. But the more I see you Roy and Felicity is their older versions of their cells. I'm like can't buy it just not buying it like in my notes. I was like Felicity. Mom of two teens now of can't find still so talked about how they have an actor really well or Roy. I mean as a little more right as an actress like she definitely has that match in Lima Charlie. Literally maternal she's a mom. Like there's an endearing aspect about her when she's addressing. So I'll give her that. That's yeah, but we're always like she's a young mom. She's young. Yeah, cool. Yeah is the cool mom. She's cool your mom. Yeah, you know, who else is cool. There we go. All of you sugars all of you, you know, why because you watch our shows you subscribe to our Channel and we appreciate that so much, you know, we can't be here without all of you. And I know that you're like are Ending what? Am I gonna do? What am I going to watch when I eat my Cool Ranch Doritos. Well cool. Ranch. You can watch so many things while you eat Cool Ranch Doritos. Again Cool Ranch Doritos, which is not a sponsor of AfterBuzz just of my life. But anyway, you can watch so many other shows. If you go to AfterBuzz Channel on YouTube or if you just look up after wasn't podcast you'll see whether it's reality like I'm starting Southern Charm or reality, which is so good reality on Wednesday. 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I want to know what you guys because I feel like I didn't hit anything specific in the show, but I gave a general and I've covered my entire thoughts for this. Fire episode at this point. I feel like we should talk about Bronze Tiger. Just men. Let's go to talk about Bronze Tiger. Yeah, like mentioning the fact that you know, you are handsome runs in the family. She was like, I'll take I'll take him I'll all watch over him, you know for that one scene or whatever. So I forgot Connor was his son and you reminded me halfway and but I'm glad that they brought it back up to remind us. I felt like it was an omen like I thought bronze hired was going to die already decided. I'm surprised nobody died. We that was my big promotion. I was like Giggles gonna die. Nobody died. I mean Amico but nobody who counted died. So our last week we were talking about. Oh and in order for it to be a good season finale somebody has to die. Well, I guess we were wrong cause good season finale but I mean we can talk to a little bit. Oh, yeah, we got plenty time. We can talk a little bit about kind of I know we're going to talk about Oliver and Felicity. But where do we I know this is a lot of kind of predictions ish. But that's just kind of where we are. It's the season finale. We but we're like do we what do y'all think cuz I don't know where we're going to see next season. Like what are we going to is diggle going to be there? It's Bronze Tiger like is Dinah. Like I don't know. Is it going to be a team? I don't know. It kind of felt like they were like we're done right it does. So I'm a little like, I don't know. What do you think? It felt very final to me a hundred? Yes. I felt like this was the series finale. So yeah, that's what made me think that next season is going to be like 90% crisis of on infinite Earths and then like you said a few episodes or a few bits of flash-forwards. I it definitely felt like an ending of an ending. I thought it was really weird because going into like past season finales like there's been different ways of ending it right but this was like well defeated the bad guy lights out. Yeah good and I was like sweet that's how the arrow cave gets shut down like nothing big thing. Drawer it's nothing. No explosions. They were just like well guys, we're good. We're going to go leave over here. You guys do this and you guys do that and you know Roy's going to figure out his life, but maybe not go get back to theater just yet because he's got this random like he still has the to say The Thirst it's not that's Matt. That's just not. But that's what made me wonder like well are we going to see more because I know Roy, I mean he came back to the show this season. He wasn't just like recurring right? So from all that, we know he's going to be back next season. So unless correct me if I'm wrong afterbuzzers in the chat, but are we going to are we going You like side episodes like Oliver's doing something with the Monitor and we're going to see Roy like trying to kill bloodlust like oh, yeah, maybe like you right. Maybe it's going to be just like different like different like different timelines or whatever. I mean, that was a good thing. They did with this finales. I have no frickin clue of where the shows going to go for air that can be good or bad. I thought it was an interesting choice that the team never found out that Oliver and Felicity were pregnant. Yeah outside dig. Obviously, but I was like super cheers. Tell them. Well, it's not Circle they gave some reason but I didn't get it. Well, yeah to keep them out of the crosshairs of the Ninth Circle. I'm like well technically C8 Circle because the ninth just got killed but it's true and it was really weird that Beatrice came out of nowhere and was like, you're not in charge anymore Hookfang and she said her name. She was like Beatrice like we're supposed to know who's and I googled I kind of did a quick Google shirtless search like who is this? I don't understand this. And the character is called pigeon in DC Comics and and it was just like she was it's somebody else could jump in. I'd never heard it as character. She like dates this guy named wrapped or so. Maybe that's the British guy. I don't know but she's Irish because she's a Villain Like with the mechanical wings. So we got none of that so I don't know but so I'm like are we going to see more of the Ninth Circle? Like I just have no idea of what I mean. We have to see I think we're gonna have to see more than I or or going to see at least more of like Bronze Tiger and like I think we have to see more they have to explain some. No, I think we're good. I feel like we are but it's again, we just don't we don't know what they're going to do. Now. I will say like, okay, so they're saying their goodbyes. Did anybody else notice like when Bronze Tiger and diggle we're saying, goodbye. Did you think they're going to kiss I did? Okay, just me. Hey coach In the chat. What are you guys thinking about? What if we not covered yet that has nothing to do with hissing? Yeah, but making out with somebody I even soda hot didn't want a Mia and William. No not no kids between me. I forgot the O'Connor me and Connor. Yeah, cause I think they're totally Teri. Yeah, that's again. I totally feel like their endgame. Yeah for sure. Yeah come on, but that's why the show feels so so much like it's passing the torch on and they even made reference which is also an interesting choice of the very end of The Flash Forward for Felicity. And for Roy and Dinah to be like well, we'll take the ball like that old right, but it's like we have lived our life. It's like you young ones take over will just go into hiding 4080 like I'm still living but I was just like that is such a weird decision. And it's not like all like one person decides to sacrifice and take the fall. All three of them are like we'll all take the blame. You guys just run along because I promise not to leave it like yeah, we're used to being in hiding. It's like what? Well, you can't not be in hiding also, there's that right? Um, can we talk about the mark of for he mentioned that yeah. What is that the thing on the arm like the tattoo they have? No I missed it. I did, you know, oh y'all it was a big deal. It was like they found like a clue and the basically they all have this Mark afford. It reminds all of all team Arrow. So diggle Oliver, I think Felicity had it to Dinah Renee and all reminds them that like no matter what they're connected. They have each other's back like and if they kind of like it's like they and what is this show there's a shell with somebody like if they invoke something that means like you just got to do like the bat signal It's kind of like the bat signal rather chats going to blow up. They're going to remember all of this because they're smarter than us tattoo. I would love to see them all just get the tattoo. That's a tough tattoo parlor. I kind of would have loved like a the tattoo that they all had in the beginning of the flash-forwards. Yeah. It was a very like very we how did we miss this? We assume that he had it, right? Yeah. It's it looks like this little kind of circle weird star thing. Oh wait and just me. I have it. No, ma'am, just all the original. Oh, geez, just say. Oh geez. Actually, that's the because I like I thought that was cool actually, but yeah, I'm not sure moves. He's hooking it up. He says loyalty compassion. Yeah, the four pillar ridge and I'm waiting for the fourth. Yeah, but they had come on. Yeah, they had a tattoo. I just mark that I was talking about that. I mean it was a while ago. It was a hot minute. I don't know why I just I remember um guys, I don't know what that yeah. I'm like, I feel like again I don't want to break down each individual scene because I just feel like that general feeling of everything we've talked about is covered it all as far as just that feeling of this coming to an end and rapping and that leaves us room. Just talking about the future and what we think is going to happen and when we started talked about before we continue one of the ways we keep all these shows for you free is by our amazing sponsors. 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But I've already let us know when I'm sad. I was just so sad now. I feel like you were way more like I was crying. I was on the verge of crying and you were like, huh? Live, huh? Oh, okay. Like this is actually a very parental decision. You stayed behind you had to stay behind right? You took care of the kids you made the promise to take care of them till whatever. She left at the point of deciding you guys are well equipped to take care of yourself Your Heroes now, you don't necessarily need me. I mean, you always need me as a mom, but you don't need me to keep you alive and safe. So now it's my time to go live my life. Which means with my father with my father. Whoa, where's your father and show Game of Thrones? Yeah. It was just more of like a hat. Okay, so he's alive and now you called mr. Monitor and we're gonna go be with Oliver like that's cool. Yeah, that's cool. But I just thought that they did a really great when they were together. The scene was just so good of them saying their goodbyes of them just the two of them talking to each other. Crying, that's what got me you guys. Okay, I'm gonna admit it. I got me but those were real tears. Yes from yeah. Can we talk about how hot you Stephen the mail and like, I don't mean hot but I mean like he's just like, I don't know why but when guys cry just gets me and like he was a good cry or anything in it and like those were real tears, but I feel like okay. First of all, he's a very talented actor he is and we don't see him cry like that. No, but at the same time to like given the the character given the show that's just not his role, but that doesn't mean that he is an actor is not capable of doing so much more. It's just that he's doing with this. Yes. So this was a great opportunity for him to a showcase the fact that he has the capacity to be that emotional and connected but be I honestly think that it was a very emotional experience for not just Oliver Queen and Felicity Smoak. It was an emotional experience for Stephen Amell and Emily Bett because knowing that He had made this decision to not return that is their last scene where they shot it at the beginning of the day or it was right before they called it a wrap for the season. They knew that there was their final scene together as a couple till she's gone. Yeah, so knowing that as an actor in the back of your head on top of like being in it as Oliver, like I think the two motions probably bled together and it was like, you know, I'll give you for those who are not actors, but when you are really connected to a person like you lose aspect of everything and it Just you and that person so it's them and their love for each other and an honest genuine. Goodbye. And they are honestly like 100% best friends like on me on social media. They they talk about each other all the time. And that is one of the aspects also that got me because I knew that this was real because they were just so connect they they're so connected on when they work and when they don't work, so just I knew that they were saying goodbye to each other because who knows it how often they're going to be able to see each other. I want to know. What was the last thing they filmed Add a Google if anybody finds that put us in the chat or tweet me. I want to know I just want to know like what because also like again the tears that they had when they they both were standing in the bunker and Oliver is just kind of standing there just kind of silently crying it was so moving. Yes. Yeah. That seems beautiful. Yeah. It was so so beautiful and it just it did remind you of just You know the Legacy that they have in the history that they have together and it was it was it was beautiful. I feel like this whole monitor think to me that reminded me of I don't I don't know necessarily if Oliver's alive, but at the again the reason why I brought up the monitor, it's this kind of omnipresent God like that could be quote unquote like a heaven so I could have you know, it could be that Felicity knows that because she said She said something to the effect of like I she said I'm paraphrasing. So this is totally wrong. But she said something meaning like I have no idea where we're going and he was kind of like you were going into the unknown and so that such a metaphor for you know passing on and dying or whatever that maybe Oliver did die and Felicity like chose to go with him to heaven and but I'd bear I don't know. I think that there is another purpose. I think it's I think it's like another timeline or something because cause you just she just won't let it go y'all. I won't she's team olicity forever forever and ever and ever maybe next season may be all over will date Dinah like you should I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'm kidding not once get cut y'all like original Black Arrow not this Dino but you know, whatever so really quick though, because one of the few minutes before we actually wrap this season, we just like chatted right there. We did. I'd love to hear some of your final thoughts. Like, what did you think of the season four? Ali or the season in general, where do you think it's going? It'd be really interesting to hear your guys's opinion. So definitely if you get a chance, we have a little bit of a delay but put that into the chat room. Well, how about this? How about they put in their final thoughts and then we just take a minute instead of archers Ali this week. We have a new segment called a leak on he's a lie y'all I just thought that would be cool because she had such an awesome tell everybody where you were what you were doing. I mean if you guys listen to me the entire season when I said follow all of our hosts on social media, then you would now so that's me a cheap like shout out to follow me on Instagram and everybody else. But if you do you'll see all my pictures. So I was in Africa for three weeks. I was hosting a live stadium show for something called Monster Jam. So like Motorsports fmx all kinds of cool stuff. And so I went to Cape Town Johannesburg and Durban. I got to walk with lions, which is on my Instagram. Literally for adult male lions and me and the rest of my crew basically are walking a mile hike with these lines it just like walk with you how close were they tear their clothes? They give me some of my pictures. I'm like, I'll be there close real close and then I got to play with the little cubs and then I did a safari and like elephants just like walk by your Jeepers, you know, like it's crazy, but it's really really cool. And then I'm a trunk. I just want to say I was the only person out of I don't know. How many people that actually wanted to experience the culture so I went to something called a Township which is where people were displaced during the apartheid. And so it's a very poor area. I mean, there's like Shaq's and like a whole row of porta potties that the whole city uses insane. I went to a school. So all these little kids and like it was definitely interesting experience, but I just think it's really important when you go visit to different countries to explore the culture not just like the beautiful shiny part that they show the tourists but actually what it It's like they're yeah, today's live. Yeah, so I did that and then I leave Wednesday. I'm going to Wales and then a few weeks later. I'll be in Coventry. So yeah castles and Cool Stuff follow me on Instagram. There you go. Yeah, and then obviously I'll be back for Arrow season 8. I think they don't need to be in the show first see this week wink nudge nudge. That's why you weren't supposed to be Amico because I know how bad that would that be if you were Amico not like that role. So bad. Oh God Ali Khan has great but we wanted to die. Literally the worst villain. Okay, so not a lot of people reached said anything but I haven't showed us says Stephen season 7 thoughts. I didn't like how much of this season team are were turned into cops. Yeah. Yeah that was weird like that. So many so much cops not Shamu says fell all the villains were disappointing long boy Longbow Hunters. Is where were they Dante was hyped up and then died fast right now me code easily by someone. We don't even know could have done bright weird sound good sounds like we were on the same page Stephen Starr says Where Do We where we go from here? I have no idea Jenna Jenna Jenna James says, I love the song that played during Oliver and Felicity is last moment to people like the finale though. Overall. I mean, did you guys like it? Let us know Captain shock says I think next season we're going to see the 9th come back and I think they will kill. Ron's tiger and his dying wish to diggle is to take care of his son. Well, that'll make me cry action though. And then Ryan Bay or hi Ryan. I don't know who you are. All right, I think Oliver and Felicity will be reunited in another dimension Dimension. So cool. I mean they kind of hit y'all hit but we can get into some predictions stood sure we can do it predictions real quick. Let's do this music totally threw off the engineers. I apologize. They're like, oh my God. Okay, we're makes it. Play overhead finales are hard because it's like it's not the same value. So I think you done good job. Thank you. Thank you. I sort of spoiled and said my prediction already but I'll reiterate really quickly. I think next season is going to be placed in no longer. It's not a flash-forward. It is currently the president and the flashback will be of I like that idea actually. Yeah, I don't I hate it. Okay my prediction it doesn't mean I like yeah, that's just what I think the chills go happens and I hope like midseason at your like the flash-forwards are so good. And we're going to be so happy because we hated them we hated them to and then they were fine. I'm going to steal our land. Ohh Williams is prediction they because I'm going to steal yours on and oh, maybe Oliver is in training to become the next monitor. I'm trusting you. Okay, that would be fun. I'll go over but yeah, but honestly, I think it's gonna be a lot of crisis on infinite Earths next season. I think it's going to be like you said more than two episodes of it. It's going to be like maybe half a season, you know, and the seasons only what Eight Episodes or ten episodes or whatever. Yeah, we're saying that the real Oliver Queen Death is going to happen during a crossover next year. That's what I said. I feel like--okay so the he is going to die. Silver starts. So the way the thing the infamous Christ is like the main people. I remember correctly that die are actually Supergirl and Superboy there. Is it super simple and super girl dies. They're not going to kill Supergirl that shows still going super strong like and it's still a newer show say they're not going to kill that show, but I think that instead they're kind of replacing it is going to be Oliver and honestly my prediction is I think I kind of see a bit of a Mud bath in the arrow because there is finishing the show, right? So it's not like any of their going to come back and that's that is kind of the point of infant's crisis that it was like that was one thing as a comic book reading you're like, whoa these people he was like endgame these people are dying and they're not coming back like this is legit and I think that we're probably going to see that probably some more with arrow because we you know, we haven't seen diggle in flash-forwards. We haven't seen all over we haven't seen like Curtis what you know, yeah. I feel that's my prediction is that it should so he changed races. She's a different to me now to die people's gonna die. I'm gonna die. Okay predictions Billie Jean Grey. I predict that Oliver and Felicity are going to be brought back by the monitor to be reunited with Mia and William in the series finale. No, it's too sweet. The last episode of The Crossover will definitely be an arrow up so they can have it also be the show's finale because it starts in the way they're doing it's going to start September and it ends in December. So Arrow ends the crossover got it. I think we're going to see many characters die. Some of the Legends might not survive. Yeah. Yeah, I'll be surprised if it wasn't for so yeah. So yeah, by the way Greg berlanti the I saw this has 18 shows next year that got approved. Oh my God, this guy has an Empire like not even just Batwoman and seated in that comic book shows, but everything is there and it's pretty dang impressive a lot. Yeah that it started really with I mean well, With arrow, but I mean really that's when he really yeah, well congrats to him Rich one day right? But yeah, so I guess that brings this season to a close for all of us and you guys thank you so much for joining us this entire season sticking with us. We had an amazing time talking with you in the chat. 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It’s the Arrow finale and Alikona is BACK! This was an emotional episode because it was Felicity’s last episode of the entire show. Olivia cried, Matt cried, and Alikona brought back the turkey call. Be sure after you watch to follow all your hosts on social media to keep up this summer! Alikona Bradford @yours_truly_alikona, Olivia de Bortoli @oliviadebortoli, Matt Marr, @theMattMarr, and Carolina Bonetti @linabean113 ABOUT ARROW: Arrow is an American television series developed by writer/producers Greg Berlanti, Marc Guggenheim, and Andrew Kreisberg. It is based on the DC Comics character Green Arrow, a costumed crime-fighter who was created by Mort Weisinger and George Papp. It premiered in North America on The CW on October 10, 2012, with international broadcasting taking place in late 2012. The series follows billionaire playboy Oliver Queen, portrayed by Stephen Amell, who, after five years of being stranded on a hostile island, returns home to fight crime and corruption as a secret vigilante whose weapon of choice is a bow and arrow. Unlike in the comic books, Oliver does not go by the alias "Green Arrow" in the television series. Arrow also features appearances by other DC Comics characters. 