Attention everyone Dell's Presidents Day Sale is still on save up to $400 on Monumental Tech deals shop savings now with amazing deals on Dell and Alienware computers with Intel core processors. That's huge savings on everything from Dell computers to Samsung TVs plus get free shipping on everything visit dell.com Presidents Day or call eight hundred by Del. That's 800 by Dell. Well, hello, there. It is. Thursday December 19th. 2019. Got a good one for you. Today. Turns out Ryan Leaf tried to help Josh Gordon. Yes that Ryan Leaf tried to help that Josh Gordon and you're going to want to hear about it. He tells an incredible story about him in jail. We've heard it once before but he dives into it a little bit deeper. If you're new to the show, let's talk about the Pro Bowl and how I got voted into it. And you know, I think awards are a bunch of bullshit but pretty good story behind it all in. Speaking of stories. Maybe you should go listen to a comedian. Tell us some stories or maybe you go watch a game or or maybe you go to a concert or a theater or something along those lines. If you're going to do that. You need to get your tickets from one place and one place alone. And that's our presenting sponsor the greatest ticket buying platform on planet Earth and the Moon Sam was asleep there. I just woke her up with the beginning of this rise and shine beautiful. It's time to get your ticket from seeking right now. If you use promo code Pat you get $10 off your first order promo code McAfee $20 off your first order. Holy shit. They're a perfect holiday gift. I know that's what you're saying. And I agree with you completely speaking of what I was saying. Hey, here's some good shit to listen to last night. The Pro Bowl rosters were debuted and it's always a massive evening for the NFL. And it's a massive evening for players if they haven't made a Pro Bowl yet and let me tell you why this is the case. So for me my hatred for these fake Awards goes back all the way to high school my sophomore year of high school. I led the entire state of Pennsylvania and goals scored in Western, Pennsylvania. In assists for our soccer team. My teammate got voted Valley News dispatch, which is a newspaper from where we're from Player of the Year while I was just honorable mention on the team. Okay, I led the entire State and goal scored and the western Pennsylvania and assist in a teammate of mine who's a friend of mine got named player of the year. So it was at that moment. I was I knew that everything was just a big joke. Okay. I knew that these awards are just a big joke because what more could I possibly done? I honestly don't know but I was happy for him in the moment couldn't be selfish. Obviously I'd be had for didn't tell him how mad I was about this until about three months later. Let him enjoy his little fake ceremony that didn't matter in that whole thing. But for me, that's It all started. So then when you go into whatever I wanted to college, I was All-American rookie All-American then I got All-American my senior year, but I was a ray guy finalists and I came in second place for the ray guy award to a kid that had half the punts. I had much lower average than I had just absolutely everything was terrible but right guy picked him strictly because Ray guy was friends with the guys coach. So you compound these things that have happened to me whenever these awards are up in these titles are up and I haven't won you could See how I could personally become jaded then whenever I get to the NFL there's this massive bonus put into my contract to make the Pro Bowl as a quarter of a million of dollars a lot of money, by the way, $250,000 if I get voted in Pro Bowl and I have this hatred for these things, but now I have direct financial gain if I do get voted in so there was a couple years where I did okay, I didn't get in there but like my fourth year, I think or my fifth year. I had a great year and I kept telling myself like hey, this could be the year where Make the Pro Bowl. This could be the year where that $250,000 thing happens and I start like typing myself up to fall in love with this completely fake completely fake not relevant award or title because it's really the only thing that matters in team sports is if your team likes you if your coach is like you if the players respect you in the locker room, if the equipment managers in the athletic trainers in the people that you work with and surround yourself with appreciate and respect what you do and you make your team better and win games, honestly if you're a A true team player. That's the only thing that matters and for me that was the only thing that mattered but whenever you put a quarter of a million dollars on something all of a sudden you start worrying about a little bit more and whatever that was put into the contract. I thought back to my sophomore year of high school. I thought back to college when I got screwed out of these words. I'm like, well, this is just how it's going to be for the rest of my life. So let's assume that that is never going to happen. I have a good year my name starts getting thrown out there a little bit and all of a sudden it's like wait am I going to make the Pro Bowl I started typing myself up. I started typing myself up and then like a week before it was supposed to happen. I start talking myself down the Kyle. You're not going to make it. Remember you get screwed on this don't get your hopes up and then the day before it's to be announced by the night before I go to bed. I'm like, you know, it'd be really cool. If you get voted for the Pro Bowl bat, not only is it Vindication and all that stuff, but the $250,000 would be great. I mean that's just good news and it's nice to be recognized by your peers coaches and fans as the best in the game. So I go to bed I go in the work the next day. And I asked our PR guy. I'm like gonna make it he's like, well, we don't know yet. I'm like you're lying to me. I know I know I know that you know, and he's like I really won't know until this afternoon. So we got to practice with come out after practice and like that I make you like they haven't told me yet. I'm like what the hell with them. I'm going home. So the rest of the team had meetings to watch practice after practice to like kind of recap the film so we could go and later than x say something was going on and I did not have to do that. So I went home I was driving home and I'm like damn another year. I got my hopes up. There's no reason for me to be even excited about this. I thought the team would tell me I'm like three quarters of the way home and I get a call from the pr guy and he's like where you at? I'm like, huh? I'm close to home right now. You know, he's like, I need you to come back and I was like, why is that he's like, you know, why and I'm like, I don't know why he was like well coach would like to announce the rest of the team the pro bowlers and I never had this moment where I had talk myself off the ledge billion seven. I was like, I made the Pro Bowl. He's like, yeah, you made it bro. I'm like, let's go so I hang up on him. I do a U-turn in the middle of a highway. I had back to the facility and I tan like I'm so paid right? I'm so paid by Akon and on the thing and I'm driving back and I'm having this entire moment. I get back into the facility both me and finitary made it Chuck one introduced us to the team's or after the practice after they had their meetings after practice everyone in the team meeting room Chuck introduced us. I think to why made it luck made it he want to introduce all of us and it was that moment with the rest of my teammates where they were like happy like clapping for us, you know, that was a real vindicating moment. Like, you know what what I'm doing people are recognizing my peers are recognizing that I've kind of changed the game a little bit. My peers have recognized all the hard work that I put in so you immediately have this moment of gratification where you're like, so thankful and grateful for the entire thing along with the 250,000 our financial bonus. But that moment where your teammates are like happy for you is really the best moment of the whole thing because then as soon as I got in the car to drive home I was like Yeah, but who cares who cares and I think that's the biggest difference between being a first-time pro bowler. And then the next time I got voted in the Pro Bowl where I chose not to play in it. It's like that first time it feels so good to have that Vindication of like people recognize what I'm doing because there's so much BS in the world and a lot of War awards are coming we could go by an enemy right now if we wanted a local Regional, I mean we could go by what right now it's like 250 bucks. You read people under Twitter buyer. They're like Emmy award-winning. It's like no. No any Emmy Award by Is what you should call yourself. It's like every award is normally crap. But whenever you get that first pro bono nod it's so like exhilarating re like, you know, what finally and then afterwards you realize like a lot of bad players make it to the Pro Bowl strictly because of their name a lot of this happens a lot of that happens and I think that's the biggest difference between like young guys. Like, I know Darius Leonard last year. He was Rookie of the Year for some people. He was All-Pro for some people which we'll talk about in a minute, but he didn't make the Pro Bowl and he was like actually heard about it. And I wanted to tell him as somebody like little bit or like hey, this doesn't matter but then I thought back to myself. I was like, you know, what whatever I was going in through my potential first one. I would have been very upset if I didn't make it I can respect it. But I think that's the difference between the first batch of pro bowlers versus repeat pro bowlers where it's like, I appreciate and respect the honor. It's very nice to be recognized by people. But I very much understand that this is a subjective thing not an object of thing and that's why you can get people's opinions and politics involved in it doesn't really matter now. Speaking of not really mattering but people hyping It Up All Pro does not mean a damn thing people say all pro is worth more and when they talk about Hall of fame's like well, he was an all pro five times All Pro means that the media people think that you're the best. So if you don't have a good relationship with the media people, you're never going to get voted in in my position and media people have no idea what's happening in punting and kicking so they have no clue what's called now Grand I was all pro at one point, but there was years where I should have been and I should have been in the Pro Bowl it didn't happen. But it was just like these people have no idea what they're talking about now. Now for some positions, I would assume that the media knows what's good and what isn't good. So like for quarterbacks, let's assume that the media gets it right and that type of stuff but don't don't undersell their relationship with different players to on who gets voted in the hole bro. So I never really gave a damn about All-Pro. I cared about the players vote for Pro Bowl more than anything else more than the fan vote more than the coaches vote. I cared about the players vote. But for me, I love the father. I love the conversation. It's a great honor for people but it's obviously made out to be a much bigger. The deal than it actually is and I think we all understand that about all the wards. If you have an actual brain, you can see how people get vindicate you can see how people get heartbroken but it's all bunch of malarkey in my eyes. Do you think players and coaches take it? Seriously when they're voting for the pro bono? Yeah, we do but also now there's politics in that too. So you're not allowed to vote for your own team. So you're asked to vote like who your three at each position are to whatever it is Hoosier first team pro bowler 17, brother. I think alternate to I don't know if it's three or two for each position. Ian, you're not allowed to vote for anybody on your team. But if you have a guy who you know deserves it at a position who's probably not going to get enough votes. You're like, okay who's probably going to beat him out? Let's leave him out of the list it so there is I mean there is politicking and everything and that's why you can't really take it serious because if it was just some if it wasn't subjective if it was just complete facts like hey, you are the best which is impossible to do because situations are situational that is a real thing. So it's hard to take serious and that's I think The wasn't for my jaded pass with these types of awards and titles and things like that. I would probably have a very different view but I've gone on to be very very successful in a lot of things and I have not won a lot of awards. I probably think I should have won and that's why I don't give a real damn about him. But that first time I got voted in the Pro Bowl. I remember having this incredible feeling of like excitement like, okay, they like me, they really really like me and then as soon as that passes, you're like, there's some other guys are pretty good to take you probably could have gotten if they deserved it. I think the Process of voting in the Pro Bowl is an interesting one where the fans vote. I'm going to remember if you're on a popular team, that's probably going to help you a lot. If you have a nowadays with the way Twitter upwards if you have a good team that is good in Social that probably helps you out a lot if you have a good Twitter and helps you out a lot and if you're in like a wasteland for it's a team that never gets talked about if you're like the Sacramento Kings of the NFL. It's probably be very difficult for you to get into the Pro Bowl strictly because one third of the vote revolves around Fans and if you're a team that doesn't have fans like the Detroit Lions don't have a lot of bands they have fans but it's not a massive amount of fans because people like winners and that's a team that hasn't done that a lot true. And by the way anybody that says like, oh, you're a fair-weather fan. Everybody's a fair-weather fan look at stadiums. Whenever teams are doing well and look at stadiums. Whenever teams aren't doing. Well. There's only a couple teams that can really carry their weight and that's because it's been around for generations and generations. But whenever you're in a big Market on a good team or you're on private, Primetime television a lot. Obviously it's going to be skewed for the fans a little bit more but I think it's a third fans a third players and a third coaches. I think they should add refs into that. Now I think ref should also get a vote because they're on the field like like for me every time I punted in the years that I was doing. Well towards the back half of my ear back half of my career like me and the rest would have a great interaction. Like if I if I hit the hell out of one they'd be like Pat bomb like it would be like a good give-and-take while we're jogging down the field together. And if I hit one not so good. They're like Patty. We look forward to this message that you know, there's like there's like a real thing I think refs are on the field should have a little bit more of a say now granted. They'll get it wrong. I mean the Alberta River on gang I did it wrong this year, but I think there is is something to be said about making the Pro Bowl and I if you're a guy who got snubbed and you haven't made it before know that yes, I can understand you're upset like Aaron Jones for instance of the Green Bay Packers. I'm sure he hasn't made a Pro Bowl yet this year. He's been incredible. I mean if you talk the Packers fans, you're talking about a guy who should be an MVP conversation for our well, he he's not in it at Glen Austin Eckler for the net Los Angeles Chargers. He's one of their biggest upsides. He's not in it, right Dak Prescott was a snob everybody says, he's playing for a Seven and Seven team. He has 11 interceptions that's going to be difficult. But he has been also the most prolific offensive player in the NFL. He didn't make it in index been to the Pro Bowl before I'm assuming has that been a problem. I think I've seen him play dodgeball quarterback for the Cowboys. Let's assume he's been in there before. So he's probably not taking it as bad as the people have never made it who have never had that feeling of being appreciated by their peers. And I think that's what it's all about. He's a two-time pro bowler. No, sir. Yeah, that's it quarterback for the Cowboys. You're making it. Well, the good news for DAC is they'll probably lose their first playoff game and he'll get to go again. I'll turn it anyway, so that's probably how it got in before I see him. Oh, come on. I mean Kirk Cousins is the biggest not available. I think Kirk Cousins Primetime Kirk was born this year. Let's assume he should have been in there. But that NFC batch is a tough group to crack. I mean you're talking and quarterbacks. That is a tough patch to crack right there. Drew Brees just broke every single record. He was out for four games and still gets in which I assume would piss some people off Aaron Rodgers. He currently has 24 touchdowns two interceptions in his leading 11 and 3 or 10 and three two, one of the 11 and 3 at this point. Yeah. I think there are 11 and 3 team. Yeah, you could talk about how he hasn't been as good as he has been in the past. He's a quarterback of 11 and 3 team. He has threw two interceptions in 24 touchdowns. I mean, that's a hell of a stat line. Do other people potentially make it in above him? Maybe maybe Kirk Cousins has done well, but they've lost it a Packers already. They play on Monday Night Football Kirk Cousins. Is that a hell of a year, but they start on low. So and Russell Wilson is an MVP candidate. I mean the NF c 3 is tough one to crack very tough one to crack although daken Kirk. I would assume in any other year would deserve it. And in the AFC Lamar Jackson is an absolute unicorn anomaly game changer for football. I'm happy that he got the most votes. This guy's change in football Patty. Mahomes is the face of the NFL was the face of the NFL before Lamar Jackson became the face of the NFL Pat Mahomes gets hurt. They lose a couple games Lamar Jackson just continues to shine. He becomes in DeShaun Watson the Michael Jordan of the NFL Dubose when he said this year has had a hell of a year also to be noted for the six quarterbacks are voted into the Pro Bowl this year or African-American quarterbacks that is massive. That is a big storyline. They were talking about on ESPN this morning. They were talking about it on every other show this morning. That is big news. Not only for the position but Our society by the way good for our society good for the game of football and good for the position of quarterback to be a much more diverse position because for a long time the position was dominated by the richest kids the kids who had all the best coaching for all the years the kids who come from the best schools the smartest people they say all these things were criteria that basically had to be in place for you to become a quarterback now, it's like hey, who's the best players who can make plays who are the guys who are the studs and stars of? Their team, let's get them in there and I'm happy the NFL is becoming a much more diverse operation, especially at the face of the team, which is the quarterback position those AFC quarterbacks. If you're another AFC franchise that's tough to look at because those all three of those quarters are very young and very good Tom Brady's first time not making the Pro Bowl since 2008, by the way, there's a guy that never goes to the Pro Bowl normally because he's in the Super Bowl, but if he's not in a Super Bowl, it's probably the same thing as me like very cool to be recognized. Yet me and Tom same very cool to be recognized. But at some point it's just like me who gives a damn what these people say, especially because it feels like as a young player. It's so hard to crack into the Pro Bowl like this year. I saw I saw key Cleese and it again and the Carolina Panthers defense has been terrible and he is the main point out of may not defense a lot of name recognition. Yeah for instance pounds. He's in for the Pittsburgh Steelers. He's been in there. I think since my first Pro Bowl policies, but anytime yeah. He's just the name and the name helps and offensive line. Normally it's a name game for off its line because it doesn't get a lot of Pub, but I don't think anybody gives a damn except for the people that haven't made a Pro Bowl yet because you want to be able to say for the rest of your life. You're a pro bowler. Like for instance. I will forever be an All-Pro Pat McAfee, right? Because the media the associated the whatever they are voted me as an All-Pro one time. You could say that to me now going to we lost the Super Bowl to Drew Brees. Who's also an Old Pro would have been nice to be Super Bowl champion. All-Pro Pat macv, even though I don't deserve it. Either of those titles. I think it given the anybody in any given time that's something you can ever take away from you and that's why the young people care about a lot more than the older players who just want to win. I'd assume oh, yeah, it's Richard Sherman got a million dollars for getting in today. Yeah. That's pretty nice massive. Yeah, if it wasn't for the financial benefit, I like for me the two hundred fifty thousand dollar bonus was like, let's go. Well why anymore either? Yeah. Well when I went it wasn't a why you it was an Arizona. We promised three hours into the desert come on and they didn't shut down the whole hotel. They're just a bunch of random. Them's floating around the hotel the bad saying that the good Santa I mean it. Whoa, let's say that about Arizona bro, you know Beach Sands way better as water. I agree. That's a desert where there is no water. But if you crack a cactus open, yep, you can drink from that. Yes, we didn't do it. I don't know why we can't do any Cactus cracked and only thing I did was Hammer strawberry marks because it was the week after we lost to the Patriots back 400 in deflategate was potentially happening, but I think the Pro Bowl although when it was back in Hawaii and you were a kid. I used to be like man. I hope I make the whole one day all these skills challenges. The luau is the beautiful weather and then I make it it's like in Arizona. We got a bunch of randoms in the hotel or they wanted me to go build a sidewalk in the middle of the desert. I'm like, oh, what are we doing? I thought this was good. I don't think this was a bad thing. Did they get the for the brand correct? Brett. Kern is the most underrated punter in the history of the NFL. I'm happy. He gets a pro bowl nod from Tennessee. He's been very good for a long time. Just And Tucker obviously Justin Tuck Justin Tucker. He focuses on focusing will Lutz guess in the show friend of the show as is Justin Tucker records ever been on the show. I'll know he and I are like friends to change that we should and I don't know how much media he does. I think he's kind of a quiet guy but he's a hell of a punter and Trust way trust way has a massive leg massive left either from Oklahoma. I guess he's a really good athlete. I think by the way, haven't seen a lot of Redskins game. So I assume he's done. Well, they put a lot. Yeah. There's a lot of teams but a lot but he is a big Oleg. I'm happy. He makes it in and Rick Lovato and Morgan cocks good representatives for the first time long Snappers have been actually voted in as opposed to just Chosen and good for them. Hey can go down for the rest of their lives is the first long Snappers that were actually voted in to the Pro Bowl as opposed to just selected him by the coaches that are coaching the two teams good for them Slater stud out of the Chiefs. Like I mean if Nicole Harbin wasn't the returner just retire he killed back there. Yeah. I'm very happy like for the brand punters that they no longer have time to kill back there, but they just found another one. You know what I mean? They found another guy in Hardman who's faster than everybody somehow, he's Elusive and he has no fear which is what a returner has to have and Deonte Harris for the Saints. I don't think I've seen enough of him. He's small but he's very quick. That's the biggest thing for returners is the ability to be quick. If you're a kickoff returner, you got to be fast. If you're a punt returner, you got to be quick. If you have both of those you're normally a very good returner for Years and years and years but the High football IQ K to know when to take a risk and catch something when not to for field position and then also no fear like you have to have it no fear because all I'm trying to do is hang up there high enough that you like Pez this there was a couple of Turner's that as soon as their head will go like this. We knew they were a fair catch because it couldn't see who was coming. Right? So all you're trying to do is hit the ball high, so there's no return and it's over a lot some of these dudes. Some of these dudes have no fear at all. They could have Nine humans that are running for six has four fours four 7s rate in their face and they're like, nope. I'm a make something out of nothing those whenever you have somebody like that you got to hang on to them and a lot of teams don't they let them just kind of go and whatever they figure it out and but for me Pro Bowl All-Pro very good honor for all these people but I think as they get older they'll realize that it's all just a bunch of malarkey and that's what it is. That's all it is. I was looking it up Pacman Jones 96 returns without a fair catch. Yeah. That was the thing. I told him I was going to get him onto whenever we played on Isaac. Get you to forget when he's a Not Me Pee Mak they wouldn't put them in for Pooch areas. So they so you know what? I mean, they wouldn't put them in for Pooch areas, which probably because like you don't know they knew yeah, they knew he wouldn't so there's like a chance for something but he was a Pacman Jones has it he was All-Pro returner of the year. I wouldn't he's unbelievable of that zero fear zero fear at any time. Anybody can get it you're at an airport in Atlanta Popeyes you to say something you can get it. I mean he had zero fear Him Devin Hester. Julian Edelman was a great returner for a long time. They don't have him return anymore. They have Mohamed Sanu who is not a good return Iraq. That was nothing else in the league when you were there. No, but I got a chance to meet Dante Hall. I think at the draft he was good. Yeah, cool guy didn't get a chance get him Cordarrelle Patterson used to be a stud because you never really did anything. He never still he still stood kick returner minute this year. They made it. He made a special teamer. I think right because he's made covering on Gunner. Yeah, he made it. A special teamer I think which is Awesome. By the way Cordell is transferred into that. He got screwed last week against the Packers where he blew up a returner and they called don't get me started. The Bears could have won that game earlier that they went down. They did good down. We interrupt this incredible conversation. To let you know that Zoom didn't invent video conferencing. They just made it better. Now Zoom is how business gets done Zoom ties together all of your communication needs into one easy app for video conferencing phone calls group chat webinars and your conference room turn any work space into a modern easy to use zoom room and enterprise-grade video conference room designed for instant collaboration with Flawless video and audio Instant Wireless content sharing and a single tap of a button to start a meeting in Zoom phone work seamlessly from any device as your business phone system to make and receive phone calls capture call recordings and easily Elevate from phone code video if the need arises Zoom is used by millions. That's right to connect around the world. Why wait any longer visit Zoom online and set up your free account today and meet happy with zoom a man who has been there done that with just about everything. He was a Washington State Cougar and NFL prospect hit rock bottom has come all the way back will be commentating and calling the cheese at Bowl the biggest best bowl of All the time ever on December 27th ESPN employee and Legend honestly Ryan Leaf. Ryan how's it going? Pal? I'm good, buddy. How you doing? Good. Hey, let's get to it because we don't have that much time and I want your beautiful brain to be displayed here. Josh. Gordon has been suspended indefinitely a couple weeks ago. I stated about how if this is all just because a weed I think in a couple years this is going to look very stupid whenever it's nationally legalized you said. Hey, I would like to talk a little bit more about that. What are your thoughts on Josh Gordon and this whole incredibly sad situation with one of the best talents ever enter the NFL? Yeah. I mean, it's been some it's been something that's been going on for For a while now and I've reached out to him for over the last two years and he's been willing to talk but just not really willing to listen and you can't do anything about that if someone is not willing to help themselves, right and so in this process when that happened the trade or the the release and to Seattle went I knew that there was something more and it's more to it than than marijuana and marijuana for him. It's not used for the relief of pain. It's a mood-altering substance. Or him. He's not comfortable with who he is in those moments. Therefore. He uses it to alter his mood. It's a different scenario when people use let's say CBD oil and things like that to help with pain. Then when you're trying to remove the emotional pain of a mood-altering substance and this time, of course, he added a performance-enhancing drug to the scenario, which also helped with the suspension. You think that was Adderall or will we never know? What do you think? That was potentially? Yeah, I would probably won't ever know who we met. I mean this stuff gets leaked out all the time. So we met figure that out or he may you know, find some transparency and vulnerability and come to us and tell everybody what went down and that's always a hope. You know, I want the best for him. I don't want anybody to ever have to go through the same type of thing I did and and not be able to live their dream of playing professional football because he's so talented like you said, that's the biggest problem here and I want him to find that peace and that Serenity that comes with with acceptance and surrender and I just don't know if he's he's gotten that place. We heard Pete Carroll talk about how he understands what the resources are there for him. He just he just he won't utilize them and if he does he's not transparent and vulnerable and and surrender and accept all that help and that's that's that's that's shameful and and sad because you know, he's a human being. Yeah. Okay. So a lot of people might not know your story, but you ended up in jail due to pills I believe right? A pill addiction. Yeah, so the only drug I've ever taken is Vicodin and it was prescribed to me after surgeries in college. And then of course when my career ended I had all this emotional baggage that I didn't go get the proper help with and so I self-medicated with a opiate pain killer and it did exactly its job, right? It killed the pain. I was in for a long long time until of course. You can't manage that you can't manage life. Like that and it just continued to spiral and spiral and spiral out of control and I was just like a junkie on the corner with a needle in his arm same difference. It just happened to be a little white pill prescribed by a doctor, but I'm still that junkie and I had to feed that that habit and It ultimately took me to a prison cell and and God, you know, am I grateful for that happening to me? Yeah, because you had to hit rock bottom to find the person you are today, which is somebody who's accepted yourself and to surrender. You said that Josh Gordon has yet to be able to find do you think there? Is a positive out of this potential Josh Gordon suspension indefinitely if he's able to find a good way out of this whole thing. Of course, I think when you're that talented and you have this much and you're that young if you find that answer and find that solution yes, of course, there is I mean look at I'm a perfect example is Chris Herren is a perfect example of this it we're not playing the sports that we played in but we're thriving in a lifestyle where I get to contribute on. One of the biggest Platforms in sports there is on ESPN and around the country. So I'm thriving in a new occupation it just for Josh Gordon. He's still able to do the thing. He really loves to do and maybe I won't look back on it as a regret because he's so young and still so talented. A lot of people say that marijuana is not an addiction drug. It's a drug that can be stopped whenever you want because it doesn't have I guess the the body doesn't forget. I don't know how to describe this. They say it's not an Drug, right. They say it's something you'd quit. Do you agree with that or not? I mean I don't necessarily agree with it because I work with people who are going through psychosis because of constant marijuana use. So for me, I see it as something different, but I don't I don't believe I'm a proponent for decriminalization of all drugs. I think that you tax it you educate you set up reform if given the opportunity to stand in front of Congress and and Lobby I'm going to be for that Portugal has a Really good blueprint on how they dealt with the decriminalization of the drugs there in that country and how the crime rate is just absolutely dropped overdoses have dissipated completely almost and people are more open about it and see it as a disease and care for it that way and so I don't know if that will ever happen here, but I'm always going to be that person. So I dont ever if the NFL chooses to continue to make it a suspended below. Offense that's their prerogative. They it's a private company. Okay, and I also think if you're willing to have to use a drug to do your job, then you might want to have you might want to look at at finding another job it just you don't if you're not capable of being yourself now if it's a pain issue that's a different thing. But also if you're in so much pain that you have to take some mood-altering drug to to play. I mean, that's a problem too. Yeah. So I mean this is a bigger issue than just the idea that marijuana may or may not be addictive I am Confirm everything just because I know what my mind does, you know other people are able to do these things people are able to drink use marijuana. Do those things like that use drugs recreationally and not have a problem. I'm just allergic right I break out in handcuffs when I when I said, that's a good joke. Hey, that's a very I would like, you know, that's a very good joke. I think the people would say well, I'm getting a massive paycheck. That's why I choose to continue to use that I think pills are a bigger problem in sports than anything else. Of course. I'll be excited to see See how they fixed that now, let's pivot to what you talked about. How you brought your life back on track and how you work on ESPN now get a chance to kind of compensate. You're very good at that. You're calling the cheese and Bowl. What are you looking forward to with the cheese at Bowl which is the biggest best bowl of all time ever. Yeah. I was pretty excited when I got that assignment and then to find out that my alma mater Washington state is in the game. That's that's pretty cool. But Air Force is a good football team, you know, they went 10 and to this year. They do something really different. These teams are are almost mirror images in the complete. Opposite right one runs the football today the other team throws the football all day and you have to prepare as a defense significantly in be very structured very Gap Integrity all of those things to prevent. I think this could be a really big shootout a lot of points scored fun. Are you going to be there? You can be punting there's that would be yeah. I'm going to be sitting in a two-story Cheez-It box field side with some people that want to contest and then I believe I'm trying to punch a ball into a bowl of cheese to raise a bunch of money for the Arie I love that if I can do anything to help you with that. I'm all over it might have you try one. We should have you throw one into buying something to think of. Yeah, can you still sing it? Oh God. Yeah. Come on. Let's do it. I'm gonna fire that thing in there. We got a chance to talk to you in a podcast. That was it was an incredibly eye-opening conversation for a lot of people that are listening. They might not have heard that can you tell the story about how in jail you found the way to fulfillment was you were helping Teach other people how to read and things like this and that's really how your life almost got turned back around. Yeah. I was just a super selfish dishonest, you know, you know self-interest guy and even when I was in prison that didn't improve because I wasn't about anybody but myself and my roommate, I don't know if you remember me talking about this. My roommate was a Afghan and Iraqi War veteran and he had been in there for eight years for a crime that I think a lot of us. Us may have done in our life and that's drive drunk at some point, but he just happened to kill somebody that night when he was on leave from tour and I watched him try to better himself every single day and I just I couldn't understand it because I just looked at myself as so so much self-pity. Like I'm the victim, you know all this and he just he made amends for what he did. He tried to better himself and then one day he finally felt confident enough, I guess to to confront me and says I had my he told me I had my head buried in the sand. I didn't understand the value not only for the men. Therefore but when I got out and he suggested we go down to the prison library and help prisoners who didn't know how to read learn how to read and I went I mean I went begrudgingly but and I did it and I saw these men who were being really vulnerable in a place where you're supposed to show no vulnerability and I heard them say something to me. Hey, I'm really struggling this with this. Can you help me and I think growing up in Montana and the cowboy culture and then being in an NFL college locker room my whole life where this machismo. Was there where you're not ever supposed to be vulnerable and ask for help? I think it was probably the first time I have heard a man actually asked that question and it really made me think and what I found out after I went back and went back and went back and was continuing to do this is that I was actually being of service to another human being for the first time and it just it changed my way of thinking. I didn't know it was the the answer there in the moment, right? You never know that the Epiphany happens when you're in it, you're like looking at the forest through the trees, but from 30,000 feet now. And you asking the question of me doing this a lot. I can look at it and go. Okay. That was the moment where I was like this has nothing to do with me. This has everything to do with the individual needs some help. The media is not watching this isn't about my brand is nothing. No one cared. No one knew this was just two individuals who were in a very difficult position dealing with adversity helping each other try to be better and I think that's the best way to look at things and it's how I really live my life now and it's given me everything these last five years. That's an awesome story and we were warmly heard it. We thought it was incredible hearing it again. Hey, we're all very proud of you think you could teach Zito how to read we got a guy here illiterate. I mean it's you know, it's a lot harder than you think you take it for granted and how you're taught growing up and then when you start to teach it you don't worry, you'll get better young man. It was harder than I thought. I had to kind of relearn how to you know, because they know what the word What the word means they just don't know how to sound it out and you have to kind of go through phonetics. It was it was an interesting and it taught me a lot of patience and I think that was helpful for me too. Alright, we only got like two minutes left, but I want to ask you about the changing of football which is happening right in front of her eyes with Lamar Jackson a lot more at Kyler Murray's having success in his first year Patrick Mahomes. You name it Baker Mayfield if he can ever figure it out. He's a mobile quarterback football seems to be changing right in front of her eyes. How do you feel about it from a quarterback position? I love it. I mean I don't get a chance to watch a lot of NFL football. I'm really impressed with what you do. Pop it on get up on Monday morning talking about everything cause I'm usually flying back on Sundays and then when I land I'm like I throw in the Red Zone, but I'm playing with my kid all day and I don't know really what's going on know Lamar Jackson is playing well all the things you the things you said, I think it's great. I mean it allows for I think the college football player, especially the quarterback to go to the next level and have success right away wasn't the case when when a lot of us were coming out in 90s because the pro-style offense was set in place and didn't cater to the guy coming in instead. Now the quarterback comes in and the coach is willing to form what he does best, you know to the to the offense or the defense and that's why I think John Harbaugh I really was like, you know, this guy is special, you know, he's a special talent. I'm not going to impose my will on him. I'm going to allow what he does so well to be our standard and that's why there. They're the best team in the AFC right now. Maybe the best team in the NFL. I agree. Hey Ryan, you're the best. I can't wait to see you on December 27th. I appreciate you time. Ladies and gentlemen, Ryan Leaf. Thank you, man. You got guys. Thank you for having me. He's a good dude story of perseverance said by the way, can't wait to see him on the 27th. We interrupt this conversation yet again to let you know that's for business purposes. But also to let you know that all Most guys have tried different ways to last longer in a sack, you know thinking about baseball doesn't always work. The folks at Roman and online Men's Health company or changing the game with Roman swipes the secret to longer lasting sex the right, babe. That sounded legit. They're saying the Pledge of Allegiance in your head doesn't work counting backwards from ten might work, but it's only 10 seconds. How do you last longer or Omens swipes? Roman swipes are clinically proven way to last longer in the sack there effective easy to use fast acting and doctor recommended, but don't require a prescription Roman can ship swipes to you and discreet unmarked packaging and eat swipes pack is small enough to hide in your wallet for whenever you need it. So, I'm sure great. They will not transfer to your Partner so you can last longer without worrying. They're super easy to use just take this wipes out of the packet apply. Let it dry. You're good to go Showtime. That's it. Keep roaming swipes in your back pocket for longer better sex and get yours fast with free two day shipping. Okay two day shipping. By going to get Roman.com /u S A. That's get Roman.com /u s a free two day shipping. Okay, here we go. The holidays are coming around, you know, maybe I'm going to have a special time with a special person. Let's go ahead and go for a long time. Let's put on a show. Let's no longer be scared that it's not going to be something that's going to last long. Let's know that we have a secret weapon in our back pocket named Roman swipes apply. Let it dry and go Showtime get Roman.com forward slash USA. Get ready Lady. It's gonna be a long one foxing are getting haircuts is a big day today. Yes, sir. Big day today. I just feel so fat when I don't have a haircut interesting. Is that what's that you something on interesting tweet last night. What's that something about a diet starting today? Yeah, then I have bacon and cheese croissant sandwiches. Awesome guy was gonna be it with you two, and then you came in and said you weren't doing that. So I pushed my back though. Well, hey. I came after me on the internet to get started the middle week. Well, not only that I guess January 1st is right around. Yeah, it is. That's a fake one though. Everything. Everyone says they're going to do it in the three days in the give us. Well, actually 80% I did this - for New Year's Eve show. Oh, it's either 80 82 percent of New Year's resolutions and 12 days into the new year. So every year January 1st every new year new me new year new me this year this Year, it's all about self care and self wealth and not caring about other people and stats say that a large majority by January 13th. They're going to be back to being fat and Karen exactly what everybody else says about them anymore. And that's just the way things work and I fall right into that right into that stat. We're screwed this year New Year's Day January 1st is on a Wednesday. Oh, yeah, push next are my lady last night smart starting on January 2nd. She said she started died on January 2nd for the Wedding because we have a wedding coming up. So she said she's starting her Fitness life January 2nd because January 1st, you want to be lazy. Yes that I'd like to be later on January 4th politics all yeah. Exactly. That's what Sam all bogus. Yes, sir. Sammy 124 wants to watch college football in January sock rotten cabasa. By the way, Sam has like 30,000 followers. Thanks Graham feels like she's a real influencer. She is I think that's the demarcation 30,000. Yeah, you're an influencer now congrats him congrats. You got Sam congrats Sammy. That's all I know if people know her or not, if people come out to me, they're like tell Sammy I said hello Mike. Oh, you know from the internet and if people come up and say tell Sam you said what's up? It's like oh you actually know Sam. Okay, they're fact that her Instagram thing is samael in I don't think anybody on Earth calls her that oh my God. I don't think I've heard a single human that that knows her call her simulant when I say Sammy, I think Sammy Davis jr. Yeah Sam, is that really what you think? I was the first thing I thought about what you said that well, hey, then that's an accurate. That what you just said the beautiful mind. I thought the diet was going to be spurned from you and Zito eating a whole cake. Oh, shut up came after me yesterday for no reason we've been in a really bad spot though Sunday night. We were in that sweet. We got chicken fingers. We got pizza. Then we were on the plane. We got more Wings. We got more chicken fingers and another take yesterday FanDuel delivers lunch the office building and with a been in CBD MD sent a cake from New York. The best cake in New York was say brought it cookies on Jay what? We supposed to do it's not our fault hail bad blood in the you were being fat shamed online. I was I've been being hatching Ohio State fans have been coming after me because it's Urban Meyer personal beef I have with them now. I got all these buffoons from Allah. It's not the entire Ohio State fam be so like that to be know we sold out of theater in Columbus in like a minute and a half or something like that. So I understand we got a lot of love in Columbus, but the old whites Buckeye fans have been coming after me for me and urban Meyer's beef. I am a guy who hates people forever. I'm think about make it right with her - trick was to these old ones will stop. Bolo tie worn it is. Yes. Well, you'll have enough money to afford sleeves and I was like God mm. Like I could have yesterday could have been killing season on Twitter with these old whites coming after me in the amount of restraint I showed was I think I'm ready for kids. Like I think I'm right. I never knew I had this type of hey, I know I did I just type of restraint because I'm reading these things and then I click on their profile that start scanning through their Tweets in their pictures and everything. I'm like that makes it even Harder, this guy doesn't even know that I could just ruin him right now. I understand people think they're good at you know, trash talking and things like that and I respect that and I think I have encountered some of the best in the history. If you want to get into a mental joust with me. I am a hundred percent okay with that and ready to go. You just better hope that you have your entire Twitter wipe clean of anything because I will do my research because you know a lot about me, you know a lot about me I'm gonna do my research on you and then let's go ahead and have at it. I'm very okay with that. Now I'm a new man. I showed restraint yesterday. I put the phone down for like 20 minutes actually a while. I had an entire tweetup that I probably would have made a guy quit Twitter and I didn't I deleted it. I put it in the drafts and I just want a way I'm impressed. I got a question. I got a question for thank you. Now that you've been on the internet for a long time long time and you're getting better like the people forget the more I'm alone a lesser straight. Hey that Twitter. Hey, I got a lot of real estate on that Twitter pal and there's a reason it's not because I just fell to the top of the Twitter Mountain pal. It's because the words I could put together and pretty good fashion on there. And a lot of these people are just making it way too easy way way to a lot of these Ohio State fans are coming in way too easy. They're making and I just I let them all live Let Him Live Let Him Live. Normally, it's kill him and I didn't Now That I'm Older. I'm 32 years old. I got hemorrhoids wise I let him live and I feel soft. No I did I went to bed last night. I had to take more I had to take double dosage see medium/deep. Couldn't sleep with myself. So some notable news with old Nick Josh. Allen. Selfie has been hung up hung up in an art gallery a Bills fan posted the selfie that Alan took with them on Twitter and he said that the photo should be hung up in the albright-knox gallery. So the gallery did just that and they went ahead and hung it up with a the Tweet caption. So what does this mean? So Josh Island, I guess her as a bunch of fans waiting for the Buffalo Bills whenever they got home from the big victory Diner and Heinz Field that we were at where they beat an undefeated quarterback and duck Hodges. They made duck Hodges not look like an undefeated quarterback for a night. I mean duck Hodges has been named starter for the Steelers going forwards, but the Buffalo Bills in a playoff atmosphere in a playoff game must win game get a massive win to prove that Sean. McDermott has built that Buffalo Bills team all the way up. They are now six and a half Point dogs against New England. I think everybody in this room is potentially hammering the Buffalo Bills, but whenever they got home after that game after Sunday Night Football all of Buffalo who wasn't it? Heinz Field because they had a large presence there. All of Buffalo Bills. Mafia was waiting for them. Josh Allen takes a selfie through a fence. Now that picture is now going up in a museum in Buffalo Bills. Mafia deserves. This run bills. Mafia is excited about this run and I'm happy and I think Josh Allen's the perfect guy to be the face of it. Is he the best quarterback in the league? No, but is he a gritty quarterback who absolutely loves the game and will do whatever it takes to get a win. Yes, and I think the people Buffalo absolutely loved. Yeah. I mean you got to be happy for a shins like this that will hang things in museums just for making the playoffs. Oh, no, don't come on. It's up Tony. I used to love the Buffalo Bills fence. You used to love them a little bit louder now. I mean celebrate a regular season with the airport. It's alright. That was a playoff win was it? Yeah got him in the playoffs. It secured playoff for the first time in a long time. Ten win season for the first time in a long time. That is a Monumental Victory on prime-time television to propel them into a place that they haven't been for a long time Bill's mob. Is excited about that Bill's Mafia for far too long has been celebrating mediocrity, right? They've been the only thing that has been worth watching in Buffalo when it came to the bills for a long time. Hey, what's the clips that got on the internet? Most Buffalo Bills playing football or bills Mafia and perform it in the parking lot Bill's Mafia performing in a parking lot. Now this year not only is Bill's Mafia putting on the parking lot putting people through tables showing up for about a quarter of the about a quarter of the population in Heinz Field was Buffalo Bills fans. It was very loud there on Sunday Night Football. Ball now they actually have a team that's worth a damn that's winning and that represents that that City I'm happy for him. And it was more than just regular season. Well, I think you guys have reacted very differently if this was against the Pittsburgh steel. No. No, I am well it's just yeah, I just knew saw it because they were coming at me but these organizations who have haven't won in 20 30 years and then they finally taste some sort of Victory. They just don't know how to control a Santoni you on your high horse. See if they can beat the Patriots. Can you blame them though? Yeah blame it as y as a Die Hard I am base that has tasted success for the first time in a long time. I'd be acting a fool to I'd be like magic what the dog pounds going to be like if they can ever turn that thing around but we saw it. Yeah, we're summer they thought they won the Super Bowl. Well, I mean, come on. Maybe that's rubbing it off on me towards the bills. What happened with the Browns? Yeah. Maybe I got Buckeye fans coming after me right now. So I mean they've been very good. So I can't tell you I can't be like, yeah, you guys stink they don't they're probably National Championship. I've been saying that this entire time but I think I was the first national media members. They don't have stage be number one. I don't even know what we're doing here. I just up like dream Jim Tressel over there in Colombia you had their back. I've had their back this entire time in a personal beef with a guy that they see is a deity has become a problem. I hate it. I love the bills. I love them all year long just a weak heart couple fans out of ruin it. See you can't listen. We tend to judge others by their worst representatives and judge ourselves by our best intentions and you just can't do that. I've hard time not doing it the bills. Mafia has a fan base. That deserve success. I'm sure 99 percent were great. Bill's. Mafia actually hates me right now. Why because I filmed there a sideline that was in an article or what are those otherwise couple? Yeah. So my default ones anything else Nick. Yeah. The Titans are on the verge of wrapping up. The ugliest season of the NFL has ever seen so far this season. The Titans are 8 for 18 on field goals. If they don't improve over the final two weeks, they'll be the first team since the 1987 Vikings to miss more. Field goals than they've made this is not great for the brand. Obviously. This is not great for the brand of kicking. They Ryan suck up got hurt hurt his groin. They brought in another kicker. He missed they bring work suck up back. He missed last week against the Texans in a playoff game. Basically a blocked field goal is the difference in not sending anything to overtime. I mean 8 of 18 is very difficult, especially whenever you're talking about professional ball kickers Now suck up has been very good for a long time. Obviously when you're injured and you're dealing with inches and milliseconds a little bit of a And off-kilter situation can affect that obviously, but man, the Titans are on such a good run to their on such a good run in the fact that they were able to do it with a field goal unit that has missed 10 kicks out of 18 kicks is absolute Insanity. I saw PFT commenter kick into the net yesterday and he's a former rugby player. He's trying out for the DC defenders in the XFL. I mean, they might as well just signed him at least he'll sign sell some jerseys. They I mean they stink down there maybe succubus. Be able to get back because it's been a couple weeks removed are from the groin injury that he had but boy that ball he kicked it got blocked looked a little low and they're going to need it. I mean, that's just not great for the brand PFT had a great kick didn't have as much ankle lock as you would hope on his kicking foot a kind of bounced off a little bit, but he had good form and I 8 of 18 is just not good. Yes, uh cups 1 4 6 Cairo Santos was 4 of 9 and then Cody Park. He was actually three for three. Oh, come on. What come on tank, you know? Yeah, but that got blocked Maybe. Offensive line should have blocked a little bit better and hold on a little bit better. They're never gets talked about. The only thing is blame oncodeep are key because the commentators refused to acknowledge the fact that it got blocked in real time. So Barry the handsome kid that wants to Auburn who's the kicker because it's an easy scapegoat. I will say the training videos of him hitting poles his whole life did not help. No, that's a terrible. That's not good. I would like everybody know the back whenever I was field goal kicker. I might not have known where it was going, but I never trained on hitting the ball put that thing through the uprights. I don't care. Or how it sneaks through their get it in there. I don't know why you would anything else Nick. Yeah one more note here Pelicans head coach. Alvin. Gentry said there's no return date yet for his rookie. Zion Williamson. He can currently work out with partial weight bearing but he's yet to get back on the floor and take contact, right? I'ma say I was wrong I'ma say it was wrong. This guy in my eyes was the next one. This guy in my eyes was a guy that could change the NBA. This is a guy in my eyes that I couldn't wait to see him play against They're grown men because it seems like he's been a grown man for 10 years. I've been watching highlights in this guy on the internet. What seems me for a decade now and he goes the Duke he does the same exact thing blows a shoe out because he's so powerful still gets a Nike deal still becomes the number one draft pick gets a chance to get in there. And what we said was he looks a little big and we didn't want to body shame anybody but we through the history of the sport. It's been easy to tell that whenever guys get thinner. It's it's better for their career LeBron. James used to be a much bigger man. And then he got a lot smaller because the wear and tear on your body and how long the season is and how much running it is. Everybody seems to have bad knees in the NBA. I watch a Dennis Rodman documentary last night his rookie season. He was like 26 years old or some like he was icing his knees his rookie season. That's just the way it is and he was a slender guy. So the white we always thought could potentially be an issue but he was so explosive. I figured he'd be able to get around it. And if he did lose some weight when he got in the NBA when he gets around nutritionist and physical trainers and all these things athletic trainers and really gets his life together and focused. I'm not not there anything wrong with that, but if you just completely focuses on his body, I thought there was a chance where he's gonna be able to jump directly into the that he's gonna be able to jump up and put his whole body into the hoop. I was expecting that and I was hope happy for that. I like seeing greats be great. I like seeing people that break the mold. It's while of them are Jackson, huh? I was excited for Zion Williamson. And now I don't even have a return date for the guy in his rookie season. This is not a good start in everybody who's an old heads. Like this guy's going to be a bus. This guy's going to be a bust and I was like, No, no. No. This guy's going to be a game changer. This guy is going to be revolutionary and right now it just looks like they were right and I was a hundred percent wrong. I don't know what the hell is going on with them, but I hope they get him back on the court quick because I like seeing them and I'll let them be healthy and I like to see the pellet Pelicans fly the falcon fly. Oh, yeah, I think so. Why don't you in their gullets? Come on, I like to see the Pelicans fly diner, but instead if no return date and they've lost 13 straight. Yeah supposed to be six to eight weeks. That's six to eight weeks has passed and now the that's just not he's getting and he's good. Body, shame to heavily was an ACL tear was that was not an ACL tear because that's not six to eight weeks. There was something in the knee that's probably like meniscus like cares anytime you have wait, right? I mean your knees take the brunt of it. It's like whenever I was fat in the NFL my knees were worse when I was thinner bunnies are better. It's just the way it goes wait directly affects your knees. That's just that's just I had from my personal experience. He should wear gel insoles. He should Ron has those you see him give away the shoes but he pulled out a so let's first he was like now you can have these your not these insoles. I hope he gets it together. I hope they figure out what's wrong with him. I hope they get him in good shape and I hope he continues to be dominant in the NBA as he was in college because when it came out of high school that guy won't be able to do this in college. He's playing against a bunch of little white kids in high school. I'm not gonna be able to do that in college and then he did it in college and there was why not gonna be able to do in the NBA and now I guess they're proving it right, but I hope he comes out it was just some early but he did look great in summer league before he got hurt. He's a player. That's what he is. He's a good basketball player. Just wish you could get back to you know, Playing basketball Congress is expected to prohibit the sale of tobacco products to people under the age of 21 in part of a new healthcare reform sweep. That's interesting to me. I think everybody's worried about high schoolers being in the e-cigs, right? That's the whole thing. They're normally under the age of 18 in high school. Right? Correct. So is the move to 21 going to make that big of a difference? I'm not a hundred percent sure good for them. It didn't used to be like 15 or something Todd Todd didn't like tobacco use make 15 back in the day 16 and fly knows I used to be sent to the little mini mart and art When I was like 7 and could buy cigarettes for my dad. So whether or not was the law and I certainly wasn't enforced. Okay. Well anything else Nick Emma less is expected to put a team in Charlotte with an expansion fee of 325 million awarded to a group backed by David Tepper the Charlotte Panthers owner, Carol Anne 325 million dollars get an MLS team. There's no way you're getting money back right throwaway sport of the future. Look Ross. Dippin Dots the MLS charlot soccer. They're also asking for a hundred and ten million in taxpayer money for the stadium instead. I think it's only like 50 Grand or something like that aside from Ibrahimovic and aside from Wayne Rooney. When do you watch soccer Pirlo? Huh? It's pure low. But and in the United States never I think Ibrahimovic was Some watch are they left? Yeah, he left back. Yeah, and I think even trashed the league while he was leaving made a couple hundred million threshold gone 325 million dollars for a team. They must not want more teams. That must be that must be the I think there's a squeeze and pepper because they know he's loaded. Well that does it for today can't thank you enough for listening. Tweet me if you enjoyed it at that might be show tweet at Ty Schmidt because he was sick yesterday on his birthday. Wish him a happy birthday. It was coming out of the basement and attic he says, Also big. Thanks. Oh big yawn, they're about to pass out. But I'm going to wake up feeling damn good because I know something is going to be at the house from bespoke post this winter start a new monthly routine that will upgrade your life and style with a box of Awesome from bespoke post bespoke post sends guys only the best stuff every month. So whether you're looking to craft your own hard cider or toast perfectly aged fall cocktails box of awesome has you covered from style and grooming Goods to borrower cooking? Was an outdoor gear box of awesome has carefully built collections for every part of your life to get started take the quiz a box of awesome not calm your answers will help them pick the right box of awesome for you. They release new boxes every month across a ton of different categories. It's free to sign up and you can skip a month or cancel anytime when any time. Anytime anytime each box is only 45 bucks, but has over 70 dollars worth of gear inside quick math Sam if it only costs 45 bucks and it has over 70 dollars worth of gear inside. How much money are you already saving? close The Box only cost 45 bucks. But inside of that box there is $70 worth of awesome shit. There we go. Ding ding ding you're already saving 25 bucks. And also you get extra 20% off your first monthly box. What do you sign up at box of awesome.com and enter the code Heartland at checkout that's box of awesome.com code Heartland for twenty first twenty percent off your first Looks good math by my lady good shelf. I do say so myself. I can't thank you enough for listening to us. Wherever you are. Whatever you're doing know that we appreciate the fuck out of you. I'm going to be giving away $50,000 on Christmas Eve and Christmas follow along at Twitter have Pat Maggie show to find out how you could be a part of that magical operation tie Schmidt play some independent music.
On today's show, Pat and the boys go through the Pro Bowl selections and give their thoughts on all the snubs, who made it that maybe shouldn't have, and whether or not players seriously care if they're selected to a Pro Bowl. Pat also breaks down the difference between Pro Bowlers and All-Pro's, and why he thinks after a certain point, most players will see through the facade and realize that for the most part, it's a bunch of malarkey. Later, Heisman Trophy finalist, #2 pick in the 1998 NFL Draft, and friend of the show, Ryan Leaf calls in. He explains how he tried to help out Josh Gordon, but he wasn't in the mindset at the time to actually open up to help. Ryan explains his current situation and chats about the moment where he actually started to realize he needed to change, and gives a quick recap of his life for those who aren't aware of his situation. Pat and Ryan also chat about the Cheez-It Bowl and how they'll get to interact down there, and a challenge is issued for each man. If you are unaware of Ryan Leaf's life story, this is a can't miss conversation (23:48-36:56). Also covered in today's show is Zion Williamson's knee injury and whether or not he'll be the same player when he comes back, Congress cracking down on e-cigs, Charlotte wanting $325 million for a new expansion MLS team and why that seems a little absurd, and Josh Allen getting one of his selfies hung in a museum after beating the Steelers last Sunday night. Today's show is a fun one. Come and laugh with us, cheers. 