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Remember how much fun we had gone down to the ob I was so nice. It was that beach-themed. You know who is just twice driving down Ocean Parkway ride was one of the best parts. Yeah, you don't see unobstructed views of the ocean because nowhere in Nassau County has it may be Suffolk like at Montauk, but just like the whole drive down there is what made you want to go best part seen the boats out in the ocean and the bay God happy hour. It's great. We people down there the member we meet all our friends from work down. That was great. Is great and the ride home. I mean like you think about it. It's just this pristine beautiful ocean all the same and Bayview and whoever knew all those bodies that were found dead body is found along Ocean Parkway bodies dumped at Gilgo Beach da suspect serial killings now, it's eight Long Island murder mystery deepens is three more bodies found cops a Remains Not challenged by two more victims in Long Island beach pro. Bring the total dead. Family's fear Long Island serial killer won't be currently details emerge and Gilgo Jones Beach case the Go-Go victims let their guard bands found likely shannan Gilbert. I mean, it's scary. You just never know. I'm Hannah green and I'm Quinn wolf and this is crime Coast. Shannan Gilbert grew up in Ellenville, New York, which is Upstate in Rockland County. It's about two hours from New York City her parents split when she was five years old and she never saw her dad again shine was the eldest of four Sheree Sarah and Shannon. They all shared the same father and Stevie the youngest sister. She was fathered by a man named David who marry Shannon's mother started dating not long after her first split. Cherie recounts that Mary and David fought often their fights were occasionally physical sometimes leading to the girls hiding and cowering under tables Mary's mother got wind of this and reported the unsafe environment to the police resulting in all four girls being put into foster care Shannon was seven at the time. Mary didn't get the girls back for at least two years and for the next six years Shannon was in and out of foster care while her sisters eventually began living at home with their mother again now as to why Shannon was the The one left in foster care. Well, there are many different stories. So Shannon told her friends allegedly that she didn't get along with one of Mary's boyfriends and that her mom ultimately chose her boyfriend over Shannon Mary on the other hand alleged that Shannon was just too difficult to deal with according to Los girls and unsolved American Mystery by Robert kolker Mary says Shannon was strong-willed but unstable when she was twelve Shannon was diagnosed with bipolar disorder. It is reported that she chose to not take Her medication because she didn't like the side effects shot him was popular. She was pretty she got good grades. People really liked her. No one knew about what was going on at home. So they didn't know that she was in and out of foster care or that she was constantly fighting with her family and what we find so notable is that when Shannon is fostered by this woman named Jennifer pottinger and when she's in what we perceive to be a more stable environment, right? She began to Excel and basically all aspects of her life. She was getting good grades. She graduated from high school early. As well liked and she pursued seeing confidently she wanted to provide for herself and her family in a way that was not done for her before. She hadn't started working as an escort in 2007 for world-class party girls, which was an escorting service Gilbert adopted a flashier. Look she according to co-workers book definitely stood out quote full lips wide eyes dark skin and a smile. She was not only pretty but well-spoken intelligent and charming and quote while she would sometimes go by her real. Her name's Shannon. She also used pseudonyms like Sabrina Madison and Angelina. It is important to note that Shannon did not keep what she was doing a secret. It was her job and her family and friends knew about her escorting shiny. Wanted to be an actress. She wanted to be famous and later. Those who knew her would actually suggest that the world of escorting seem to quote scratch the same itch in a different way bringing her attention adoration and money and quote Shannon was allegedly taking online classes during this. And we continuously tell her friends and family that she was quote just doing this until she finished school and quote. It's through world-class Party Girls service that she met her boyfriend Alex Diaz who she would continue to date until she disappeared Shannon moved to Jersey City in early 2008 to find more work and to be with d as her relationship with him is volatile. It's reported that there was at least one physical fight between the two that resulted India's fracturing Shannon's jaw and causing her to need a titanium plate in it. For that detail, it will be important later on and after the jaw fracture the two were on and off again as Shannon rightfully could not get over what had happened to her her family knew about the incident and so did his Shannon made sure not to let Alex forget what he had done to her. Diaz was in his late 20s at the time. He was in on-again off-again driver for the World Class party girl service. The agency was run by an entrepreneur if we can even call him that name Joseph Ruiz who Alex knew because he was the owner of a kebab house that Frequent it in this place called Journal Square, New Jersey. Alex would go back and forth from driving escorts to working minimum-wage jobs. He kept his work with world-class Party Girls a secret from his family and that began to weigh on him. But each time he'd walk away the money would draw him back in it was far more than he was making as a security guard at one point. It was reported that the minimum for calls coming into world-class party girls around $500 for an hour, but world-class Party Girls was subsequently shut down Ruiz all Ultimately got picked up by the cops for his involvement with the escorting service police have been working for about a year to uncover. What Ruiz was doing this left both Alex and Shannon unemployed while Alex was collecting unemployment at the time Shannon tried other quote normal jobs, but she couldn't make ends meet the financial stress began taking a toll on their relationship fights became more regular between the two right after the world class Party Girls service was busted by the police Shannon began working for a new escort service outside of the It's called fallen angels with the Z. It is through this agency that she met Michael Pak a Korean man from Queens who would ultimately drive her to Oak Beach on the night of her disappearance Sean and quickly realized that she was at the bottom of the totem pole in Fallen Angels, right? She was like a total freshman. Yeah, and the best jobs were going to the more senior girls which Shannon and pack found odd because they were often older. Yeah, and this is a profession that's basically rooted and youth and appearances exactly. So they started getting strung along by the agency because they were the newbies he's and they'd get sent on a call just to find out it was a busted either be a cancellation or a no-show and it became a waste of their time and money. So this is when Shannon turned to sites like Craigslist. She's now freelancing and pack was on board. They actually became business partners. Now Shannon will post a few pictures at an ad on the internet and finding clients was easy enough Coker explains their arrangement in his book in exchange for driving her to their jobs pact would keep a third of what she made and Shannon we keep the rest the two made a good team. It was an Opposites Attract sort of situation. She was very talkative and gregarious and fun and bold while he according to kolker was shy and quiet. So the two kind of balanced each other out. They spent a lot of time together driving a calls and in between calls and after calls Shannon took the opportunity to share her life through stories during those long nights and by this time she and Alex had stopped arguing as much but things sort of felt tepid Shannon allegedly. Stop discussing her future Beyond escorting. You talk of finishing College dwindled but on the night before pack drove Shannon out to Oak Beach for what would be her last call A Taste of Alex and Shannon's old relationships set through the current Stillness. The two went on a date to the movies and according to qualquer. They snuck in Taco Bell to the theater and they saw the newest Freddy Krueger movie poker Accounts at Alex felt, like this part of their relationship was the real part of it. This is what he'd always wanted and this is what he hoped would last but after that movie Shannon cut the night short to me. With pack for a job she met him by the PATH train in Journal Square, New Jersey and around 1:00 a.m. She texted Alex telling him that she was going out for a call. This is the last time they would talk for those of you who are not familiar. The PATH train is a New Jersey train similar to the subway. But because it's in New Jersey, it's inferior, right that brings me in the commuters to Manhattan and back to Jersey. Yeah, actually our close friend lived in Journal Square about a year ago. So we used to get there via the The PATH train, we've actually been to the station that Shannon allegedly frequent did when she was going out on calls. We didn't know this at the time though. So Shannon and pack accepted a call out in Oak beach now Long Island in many ways feels like a different world than Manhattan in Jersey City and Oak Beach feels like a different world than Long Island and Manhattan and Jersey City. It really is quite unique. That's for sure ask any long Islander, which is better South Shore Beaches or North Shore Beaches Suffolk County or Nassau County and you're going to like We find yourself being slammed with reasons as to why one is better than the other that's depending on where the person you question is from usually some reference to a superior area code will be thrown in there. Five. One six is Nassau County's area code and 6 3 1 is suffix area code. Yeah, and I'm not biased or anything, but I'm really not sure who wouldn't want to five one six area code over at 6:31 area code. Oh, you're completely right. I'm also not biased though. Okay. Also just like a quick side note if you say In Long Island versus on Long Island. You're wrong. You're just wrong. Yeah you live on Long Island. You don't live in Long Island, but back to our geography discussion, right Nassau County is significantly smaller, but it's way more populated I think congested is the word that you're looking for. Yes, exactly. And Suffolk county is more land. So naturally everything is more spread out and Audi's there's the North Fork and the South Fork. Yeah. Let me just interject here in Manhattan, especially in the summertime. You'll regularly hear the phrase. Oh, I'm heading out. Out east is how many New Yorkers reference their trips out to Long Island? Particularly The Hamptons and Montauk and what these Hampton going New Yorkers are not familiar with are they hidden gems on Long Island? The only true natives know about but we'll get back to that in a second. Right? So out east on the North Fork, you'll find a pretty different vibe than you would on the South Fork for starters. The North Fork is generally known for its wineries. It's definitely in my personal experience more laid-back country feel it's not as much partying or Youngman. Yeah, tonight's and not as much trendiness which the residents are generally glad about exactly the Hamptons and more recently Montauk have become very trendy and hip amongst the young people who are looking for the latest bar or the best sunset pic to post on Instagram and many of the locals who are so not about that life are fed up with the infiltration of these groups into their towns. Yeah. This hasn't happened as much on the North Fork. Well yet something that also fascinates out-of-towners is the beach culture. So the South Sure, and the North Shore across the island have totally different Beach feels. Yeah, the North Shore is super Rocky and I mean you're on totally different bodies of water. The North Shore is predominantly on the Long Island Sound Of course with the exception of some North Shore Beaches that are in base or Harbors like Oyster Bay, for example, and the South Shore Beaches are on the Atlantic Ocean. Definitely softer sand less rocks and our experience way more crowded. Yeah. Just going to take the time here to plug our Instagram account at crime Coast pod. We have a lot of awesome pictures of all the areas we're talking about here. Yeah, definitely go check out the pictures so you can get a visual. I'll even post a picture of everyone packed on a South Shore Beach like sardines, right? Because the beach well Toby at least has literally disappears. So people are forced to sit essentially on top of each other. I think that was because of the dredging that took place on Gilgo. Apparently when you dredge a beach it improves the beach you're working on but it really impacts the beaches around it. Yeah, Toby which is how the locals To the town of Oyster Bay Beach is right next to Gilgo Beach on the South Shore along Ocean Parkway. It's essentially all one strip of beach, but the town split it up and designate each Beach to corresponding towns, right? So if you live in a town that lets say is part of Huntington you would be designated to go to Robert Moses Beach whereas if your town is located in the larger Township of Oyster Bay, then you would be designated to go to toe Bay Beach. So it's kind of like a private beach, but also not really At all one of the most famous beaches that does not require a town residents for accesses Jones Beach, which again is on the same strip of land as Ocean Parkway and Gilgo Beach this trip is where we're really going to focus on for most of this podcast because to remind you all this is where most of the bodies were found. Yes, exactly. So if you're going from west to east, it's Joan speech then Toby then go go and then the oak Beach Community is tucked in right after Gil go if you keep going east you'll eventually hit Robert. Speech and Fire Island just to make note back in the 90s. There were also remains found on Fire Island, right? So to recap the North Shore is a little bit trendier and some would even argue uppity. The South Shore is way more easygoing. It has a more salt-of-the-earth kind of vibe. The South Shore is where you go. If you want to drive around with your windows down and sing 70s rock songs. So the top of your lungs so exactly what we've been doing every summer since we've been able to drive one place. We've always loved to do. This is Ocean Parkway because it feels like an entirely different planet. Than the rest of Long Island. Yeah, it's just the epitome of a beach drive. There are cattails swaying back and forth down want to a Parkway and there's marshy water poking through the background. You'll even find some people down in the marshy grass with fishing poles and bait you'll find bikers rollerbladers Runners and Walkers and they're all keeping Pace along the road on The Pedestrian path. Yeah and a side note. I do not know how anyone can bike down to the beach, especially with a beach chair on your back like the ride down fine, maybe but the problem is having to get After a day at the beach, I am shot. There is no way I can bike back all Sandy and sunburned. Yeah. I remember some of our friends tried it and ended up needing a ride home. Yeah, I am all about the drive. Right and when you get to the end of Wantagh Parkway, you'll be met with a pretty overwhelming traffic circle all centered around the Jones Beach Water Tower. Yeah, and people can get pretty aggressive at the traffic circle. Like you better know what you're doing because the locals treat it as if it's not overwhelming at all and the tower is pretty important too as multiple remains were found here as well. The Jones Beach water tower is to our knowledge. The furthest west that any bodies were found when the police scoured the area. It's important to note that even within the past few years Ocean Parkway has become a bit more built up on the North side of the road the bike path that existed on the wand to a Parkway was extended past Jones Beach East all the way down to toe Bay Beach, which is the beach. That's right next to go go and within the past year a zip lining course. Was constructed along the Jones Beach boardwalk and I will hold my opinions on the ice or there are a few seafood restaurants in the beach parking lots, but this is not a road. You're going to find a CVS or a gas station on it's just open road that's surrounded by Marsh and water on either side. Yeah. I mean with the exception of the new additions you just mentioned Ocean Parkway is a desolate area. There are some street lights now, but overall it's pitch black at night. Yeah. I was actually recently down at go go and along that strip of oh Ocean Parkway, there are no overhead street lights for miles and just a side note along all of the south side of the road and along most of the north side of the road. There is not even a guardrail separating the parkway from the Bramble and the brush it goes straight from road to overgrowth making it up pretty easy to just pull your car over on the side of the road where there are no street lights and have pretty easy access to all the thick vegetation. Basically what I'm saying is that it seems relatively Easy to dispose of a body out there without being spotted. Yeah in the a any documentary The Killing season the two documentarians Rachel and Joshua actually drove down to Ocean Parkway at night. They pulled over on the side of the Parkway and they decided to see not only how frequently cars would drive by but how long you had from the time you spotted there faint headlights to when the car would actually be next to you passing you. It was at least a couple of minutes and that's a long time when you think about it so Ocean Parkway that dark desolate strip of road. It's the exact Parkway that Gilbert impact drove down in the black Explorer on their way to what was Shannon's last call Shannon and pack had done a few Long Island calls, but they were not there enough to be familiar with this area. So it was really far for them this needed to be worth it and the call was worth it. The call was for two hours. So even if they missed other calls because of the time it would take to get there and back the $300 or more would be worth it. Right, and it would be more if Shannon could extend the date and she wanted to and ultimately she did Shannon was in there for three hours without pack so much as hearing a word from her and her customer the John or client was a man named Joe Brewer and jobber was well known around the oak Beach Community and not necessarily in the best ways According to some right. So according to colcord's book. The Brewer family owned a lot of real estate residential and Commercial further Inland on Long Island kolker spoke to Neighbors. Is who asserted that Joe was the Fredo of the family quote in his mid-40s paunchy and unemployed Brewer once worked on Wall Street, but he hadn't worked in years. He was staying at his mom's place in Oak Beach and apparently did what he wanted. Allegedly. The place was a wreck not just like cluttered but dirty and resembling a hoarders residence. He had a young daughter who apparently never came around and he was not married. Yeah. He treated his mother's place on Oak Beach as some sort of backed their bad for college like escapades. He allegedly confided in a few men in the neighborhood that the house was just a quote party pit for him and his friends a place where you can do whatever you wanted to do and quote and this didn't exactly bode. Well for the residents of Oak Beach who had a very different idea of what their Community should be right Oak Beach had always prided itself on seclusion and a low-key life on the water. Bob Brewers Antics were exactly the opposite of What the residents wanted the It is treated the area as if it really was a gated community. And now I mean there is a gate preceding the neighborhood with a little electronic keypad and a sign that reads Oak Island beach Association. Yep, check out our Instagram for a picture of the gate and the sign. Yeah, but the Town of Babylon actually owns the land so the residents on their houses, but they don't own the land beneath them. So they're constantly renewing leases for the land with the town and what this means is that it's not a high security. Exclusive gated community. It's just like any other community on Long Island in theory. You could walk through that neighborhood just as you could the neighborhood of like Levittown, right? But the oak Beach residents don't like that to be advertised as kolker puts a quote walking past the gate isn't against the law but it sends a message. Yeah, the gate sends a message of the type of community the residents wish to uphold. Yeah back in the 80s and 90s a popular hangout spot Woods the oak beach in also referred to as The OB I the OB I was a bar right on the water in the mouth of Oak Beach Community. Yeah, and the residents were fed up with their quiet community being the watering hole for a bunch of drunk young kids who wanted to party and have fun police Crackdown and many tried to fight for the OB. I to be shut down for good the obyeye lovers rallied fighting for their beloved bar on the beach to remain open. We have a lot of fun going down to OB I didn't we oh those were great night. You look forward to them all day at work. Yeah, we would meet our friends for happy. A our Oak beach in everyone and remember close the OB I yeah the truck driving up and down the alley who's just a wonderful place to go in the summertime. Yeah. There's nothing like Ocean Drive Beach vibe to had a beach Vibe and driving down Ocean Parkway. My God windows open is old sinner Rising. I mean was great but you're finally free you could just you're out of work you go down there you'd have a good time good stuff people that you know it down there all the time the same people a lot of fun. I know she probably is one of Hi in 92 the OB I was finally shut down and now all you'll find is an empty parking lot where the OB I used to stand. Everyone was there and tells in a good mood. I was in a good mood until the town or the residents. They didn't want the OB I anymore they didn't want people drinking hanging out and eventually the whole place shut down and became a ghost town and the former OB eyesight is bordered to the East and the west by the residences of Oak Beach and it became a quiet desolate place the It's of Oak Beach, ultimately one and on May 1st 2010 the Sleepy Community, whatever the spotlight back on them right when Brewer who some might characterize as the black sheep of the community answered an ad on a site like Craigslist for a few hours with Shannon Gilbert as pack pulled up through the gate with Shannon in the car for a greeted the to well he opened the gate and he and Shannon receded back into his house right pack explained that he didn't see either for about 3 hours. Well wait, he saw them once when they came out of Brewers car? To quote unquote run an errand Shannon run this by pack and he didn't ask questions. He just assumed that they were buying drugs, but he couldn't be sure right. I mean the only thing that strikes me here is that you really can't get anywhere and buy anywhere meaning like a store at least right in 20 minutes there and back. I mean you could maybe get two stores in Babylon over the Robert Moses bridge in about 15 minutes, but this issue is the timing of getting back, right? So I'd say they probably went somewhere local and buy local. We mean maybe another house again. We're not sure for what though? And this is just our local speculation exactly and pack didn't even get a good look at Brewer until three hours into this call right when pack heard a knock on his car window and it was Brewer asking him to get Shannon out of his house Brewer claimed that she wouldn't leave according to Coal cars account of this encounter Brewer didn't seem angry or scared. He just simply wanted to get her out so pack got out of his car and went into Burgers house and going into a client's house. Not something he had ever done or ever wanted to do as he walked in. The house was in usual Joe Brewer fashion. It was dirty there was food and knickknacks everywhere. He saw Shannon standing in the doorway of the kitchen kolker describe. Shannon is apparently looking the same as always quote chestnut brown wig with blond streaks a pair of dangly hoop earrings a brown leather jacket and jeans and quote pack said to Shannon Shannon. Let's go home to which she replied you guys are trying to kill me packet first didn't think she was being serious. Serious, he was going to laugh but he quickly realized that she was in fact being serious and she actually seemed scared. Yeah, she wasn't panicking yet, but she was definitely frightened packed right again. He said come on Shannon don't you want to go home? Let's go home pack tried pressing Brewer asking him why she wouldn't leave and by now Brewer was done with this whole thing. He walked towards Shannon. He tried to put an arm around her, but she shrieked and then he replied fuck this. So Brewer left the room leaving pack to deal with Shannon now. We're going to read a few direct quotes from coker's book here to explain what happened. Next pack said Shannon. Do you want to go and she replied? I'll find my own way home. She allegedly crawled behind the couch pack figured he take her word and went to open the door and leave but then Shannon quickly retorted Mike. Where are you going? Huh? You want to go pack said she didn't answer at this point and Pac was at a loss for what to do. He sat down in a chair at the dining room table. Shannon asked him why he was Setting pack trying to come up with an explanation for what was happening thought Shannon must be imitating a scene from a movie. She really liked. It's called Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas where a similar scene actually plays out. He thought she was faking it Shannon didn't reply. She was on the phone pack heard her say quote Long Island into the receiver pocket here that it sounded like she was on the phone with nine one one and that upset and Confused him in this business. You really don't want to rub elbows with the cops unless you Have to so I would Shannon and I scored on call be on the phone with them. This always felt important to me. If it really was all an act or there really was no danger. Why would Shawn and want to involve the police? She's already had run-ins with the law because of escorting. It just wouldn't make sense for her to jeopardize getting in trouble with the cops like that. If she really didn't feel like she was in legitimate danger, but pack felt scared. He had brushes with the law in his past and he did not want to get taken in again. He felt an Impulse to On he felt concerned this is when Michael left he sat in the car for a minute trying to gather his thoughts. She says she'll find her way home. She's calling 9-1-1 he thought pack just wanted to get out of there and then he looked up and saw a brewer standing on the House's second floor balcony pack shouted up letting him know that Jenna was still inside and that's when Brewer bolted back inside pack believes that this must have startled Shannon because the next thing he knew she burst out the door towards him falling. On the patio stairs and quickly picked herself up. Again, Michael who is still in the car couldn't tell what was happening, but thought great. She finally wants to go home. He called her Shannon Janan. He turned on the car headlights tried following her down the narrow dark and desolate back roads about Beach. He texted her shout at her name, but she was too frantic while Shannon was running from pack. She knocked on to neighbors doors one of which was a woman named Barbara Brennan she and her husband were up early preparing for a trip. When they answer the door and so the Panic state that shouting was in they said they would call 9-1-1 this upset Shannon even more and she ran away Shannon been banged on the door of Gus Coletti another Oak Beach resident. He opened the door saw how frantic she was and he said stay there and that he was going to call 9-1-1 again. She freaked out now even more because she also did not want him to call 9-1-1, we're not so sure why this would have been her reaction as she clearly wanted help and she felt in danger and she She even called 9-1-1 herself earlier, right? So she ran again, she then saw pack driving down the road towards her shouting her name and she proceeded to hide behind Gus. Coletti's parked boat packs. Saw her darting across the dark one's of Oak Beach, but quickly lost sight of her because again this area is so poorly lit and dense Shrubbery ultimately pack felt he tried his best. He did his due diligence and he headed back to New York City leaving Shannon to get back on her own and just a side note Mayo long. Island particularly right near the water at night is very cold. Like we cannot emphasize this enough Shannon would have been freezing outside. Right? Especially if she didn't have on much outerwear because we assume she wasn't planning to spend much time outside. So right there someone who is alone and unfamiliar with the area and they're cold. It's just it's really not a good situation to be in I've lived on Long Island my entire life and I would be very scared to be out there alone at four o'clock in the morning Alex Shannon's boyfriend. Waited around for her the next day and when she didn't come home he was worried, but he figured well, she'll be home the next day. But then when Shannon didn't show up the following day Alex panicked and he called pack asking where Shannon was pack was shocked. He said he just assumed that Shannon was home with Alex. He explained what happened that night in Oak Beech. And that's when the two of them got worried. They called hospitals police stations, but to no avail finally Alex asked pack to give him the information of the last John she was with which was Joe Brewer. And he was very confused to hear from Alex. Yeah, he was actually a pretty light-hearted about it saying things like oh, she's your girlfriend is your job to new shoes. Ultimately Alex went with Brewer and packed to the Suffolk County Police Station to file a missing persons report. They essentially laughed and Alex's face, right? They were like, she's 24 and from Jersey City go filed a report there. It's them's not a problem, right? So they went to file a report in Jersey City, but she went missing in Suffolk County Sand Jersey never And the missing persons report over to them. So no one in Suffolk County New to look for Shannon Shannon sisters and mother went to Oak Beach and number of times with Alex to knock on doors pass out flyers and ask the community if they had seen anything yet. Her family was on top of the Suffolk County Police, but it just didn't seem like it was that important at the time. There was also no press about a missing girl for a few reasons. There was no official missing persons report in Suffolk County because Jersey City never sent it over. And also the 23-minute 9-1-1 call that Shannon made was never even linked to the missing person which we find so bizarre because in our experience if a young attractive girl were to go missing from Suffolk or NASA or really anywhere. It would be plastered all over the news. It's just seems like the situation was actively being avoided no one heard anything about Shannon until August which is a full three months later the same officer who came the morning after the neighbors called 9-1-1 came back to Gus. Colletti took question him about what he knew were what he saw which struck us quality is odd because Shannon went missing in May and it was now August and when Gus asked why the case was swept under the rug, they allegedly said that Jersey dropped the ball and they're the ones that never sent them the missing persons report. So it was on them. I feel like this is a good time to just step back a little bit. So when Shannon was at Brewers house when pack was coming in and all the craziness was going on. She was actually on the phone with 9-1-1. This was a 23-minute. Did phone call that has never been released to the public, but we'll get back to that in a later episode because it's literally ongoing as we speak and it's totally bananas. Right? So this phone call was bounce back and forth between different jurisdictions to remind you guys. There is Jones Beach which is down the road from Oak Beach. But Jones Beach is technically a state park. So New York State Police is responsible for Jones Beach. That's their jurisdiction and Suffolk County Police is the jurisdiction for Oak Beach and apparently they just don't communicate at all because No one could figure out what the hell is going on that night, right? The dispatcher asked Shannon for her location and Shannon, of course that she was unfamiliar with the area. But that she knew she was near Jones Beach and that's when the dispatcher transferred her when she got transferred to New York State Police. They claim that they couldn't figure out where Shannon was the call got lost and because Shannon never called back the dispatcher Let It Go and figured it just resolved itself. I'm hoping that the technology has improved since then because it seems like they should be able to The phone or triangulate a cell phone call in over 23 minutes, right? They couldn't have asked some questions to narrow down where she was. I mean 23 minutes is a long time side note when those two other people called they couldn't connect that to the earlier 23 minute phone call. They received in such a close proximity and I don't I don't really know. But how many calls are they getting from Oak beach in one night. I mean the communities small right screaming girl calls for 23 minutes and then two other phone calls come in about a screaming girl. Earl how could they not connect the two and then things just sort of dissipated and Shannon became a run-of-the-mill missing person the Suffolk County Police actually found a jacket when they went back in August and they confirmed it with Shannon's but um, they lost the jacket and then on top of that when one police officer responded the day after Shannon went missing Gus colletti, literally offered security camera tapes to the police and they declined to take them when the police finally came back eight months later when the case had picked up some traction. And they asked for the tapes and of course they were no longer available because the community security tapes were reused every month and we are by no means bashing the Suffolk County police department or police in general. We have a great deal of respect for police officers. We're just simply pointing out a few things that seemed odd about how the case was handled and it could be for reasons that we don't know. It could be because of genuine mishaps or it could be something bigger and we're going to explore that more in future episodes and nothing nothing the Suffolk County Police Department is the 12th largest in the country. That's a pretty serious ranking. Yeah, and they definitely have resources. It just seems odd how they went about this, especially at the beginning. Yeah, and one of the resources is a 22 dog K9 unit, right? So by August things with the missing persons report had been straightened out and Mary and her sisters were on Suffolk County Police Department and Suffolk Police gave in and they came back to Oak Beach to start looking for any sign of Shannon during their search the police brought in a K-9 unit to assist. so with the K-9 unit each dog has a specialty like drugs or explosives or in this case cadavers and the cadaver dogs had searched for a while, but it was August and the brush was stick the Hammers in the dogs were getting Poison Ivy and so they decided it was best to suspend the search and come back in the winter months when it was easier for the dogs to pick up sense and to sift through the Bramble one man officer John Malia was training a dog named Blue and figured that this girl Shannon is still missing and that he could use Use this as an opportunity to train blue, he took blue to the southern edge of Ocean Parkway and out about 245 on December 11th, 2010 along the parkway near Gilgo Beach blue started wagging his tail and when Malia looked over to see what was there it was burlap and in the burlap was a skeleton over the next couple of weeks three more bodies wrapped in burlap Masada glue placed in a row alongside Ocean Parkway would be discovered. 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The curious case of missing person, Shannan Gilbert and the four bodies that came with it. SOURCES/CITATIONS:   Lost Girls: An Unsolved American Mystery by Robert Kolker    For facts and information on the case   All direct quotes and paraphrased quotes are taken from this book (with the exception of the newspaper headlines in intro)     Newsday headlines used in introduction were adapted and combined. Adaptations are cited below (all phrasing was taken from Newsday and is NOT original content, we simply combined and shortened headlines)     “Dead Body is Found Along Ocean Parkway”    “...Four Bodies [dumped] at [Gilgo] Beach” “DA [suspects] Serial Killings…”    “Now it’s 8: LI Murder Mystery Deepens as 3 more bodies found” “Cops: [say] Remains not Shannan Gilbert’s”    “Cops find 2 more victims in LI Beach Probe: [bringing the] total [dead] to 10” “Families Fear LI Serial Killer Won’t Be Caught”    “Grisly details emerge in Gilgo/Jones beach case…” Did Gilgo Victims Let Their Guards Down?”    “Remains Found, Likely Shannan Gilbert”     All Newsday publications from which the quoted headlines were used are cited below in order as they appeared in the episode:     Newsday, 12/11/10    Newsday 12/14/10   Newsday, 12/14/10    Newsday 1/24/11   Newsday, 4/4/11   Newsday, 4/5/11   Newsday, 4/11/11    Newsday, 12/10/11   Newsday, 4/12/11    Newsday 6/11/11     CBS 48 Hours, Episode: The Long Island Serial Killer, Season #24, Air date July 12, 2011 for information on the case and those involved      https://www.cbsnews.com/video/the-long-island-serial-killer-5/     “The Killing Season” on A & E, Director Joshua Zeman and Rachel Mills   ---   This episode is sponsored by  · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. 