Thank you Ruby. Hi, Sarah. Welcome to Los Angeles. Okay, we have a guest today and we are so excited major make our crust. We're actually at her beautiful studio in Beverly Hills. Can you guys guess I mean you guys know it's shoddy Darden. Okay Shani is one of our favorites we were talking about Johnny before we came here and we were saying that we love her no bullshit approach. Yep to skincare like When you go get a facial with Shaunie, she's not like like she doesn't lovely arm massage. She like does all the amazing treatment very but it's to the point. Yes, like she'll tell you what you're doing. What you shouldn't be doing to yours. Yeah. She's like, I'm not just gonna like let you luxuriate for a second because for the ham on those blackheads, she gets the extractions and she goes hard on them, which is like my favorite part and then we are just like glowy Angels right after exactly. I love this is so Shawnee Darden, obviously a renowned despot. Sharon and the secret behind some of Hollywood's most Flawless faces including Jessica Alba Chrissy Teigen and Rosie Huntington-Whiteley her passion for simple yet effective and no bullshit Solutions have garnered her a loyal client base and a massive social media following so much so that Sean he's often booked out a year in advance. So good luck trying to book an appointment in June 2019 Shawnee opened her first Flagship Studio, which we are at right now here in Beverly Hills where she treats clients and shares her expertise with her followers on Instagram. We are so thrilled to have Shawnee on our podcast today. Thank you for taking the time. We know you're such a busy woman. So excited to be here. We a lot of people when we ask when we first got started. Hey, what guests would you like to see on the show? You were definitely in the top five my God, I love that. So it's like an amazing I think about sound nice, but you know, it's funny because when we before you even opened the studio you were like y'all should come over we should do like a sleeper gonna do that. If we actually do it I want to do that. I said you invited Yeah, I was like I wanted to so bring it up again because I want it to happen. But I also generally brewed in case it wasn't gonna happen. We're gonna have like will have bathrobes and like the whole thing wine and just like hang out my God. Yes, and you can be just like how to massage our faces. Yes. Yes. Let's do it. Oh my God. Wait can beg attili. Please come there's no way she's not gonna I'm obsessed with her. I love her Instagram stories. Obviously. I know you guys are friends. She's a good one make the guess like yeah, and then you make the list yep done and I'll get the Ropes, yes. Okay. Perfect. So let's start from the beginning before you became the fabulous Shani Darden. Let's talk about your start and how you transition into working with celebrities because I know a lot actually have a lot of estheticians that listen to our podcast. Yes, and they want to get into the celebrity world. Can you talk a little bit about your experience? There's also rumors that you maybe starred in some music videos look like a model so beef. That might be true before becoming an esthetician. I moved out here to model. Okay, and I quickly found out I was not going to get any modeling jobs. And so I kept getting cast in music videos. So I was in a bunch of music videos, but I didn't know how to dance. Yeah, I'm not no. I mean there wasn't really I feel like there wasn't like a ton of modeling at that time here. It was just like commercials like the commercial modeling. Yeah, so I just kept getting cast in music videos and I was just like awful and I had no idea what it was. Music videos just like a lot like LL Cool J was one of my really big ones. I was a tunnel girl and I was like rolling around no need to shoot something like a phenomenon. You were a legend. It's amazing. Now you familiar with her? Oh, yes. Well you two would be like best friends. Oh, yeah. She was my producer at popsugar for years. She's like the most stylish woman on the planet and she can dance she can dance for kossoff and she Like sent me a video. She sent me Justin Timberlake Señorita video and she's like they filmed with me and then cut me out to one part and like it's just so funny seeing her because she's like those were that was back in the day like when I was just trying to schlep it. She's like in a Michael Jackson video. It's like sighs so you're saying people weighed I didn't have any dancing ability, but like I tried to go with and it just like wasn't me and I just woke up one day and I was like never doing that again. You're like it just was so not me. Yeah, and so So then I went to school to be an esthetician. Okay, had you always cared about your skin since I was like eight always been totally crazy about my skin if I had your I don't know like I just had it from a very young age. And I remember like I was breaking out and I would get weird rashes and I remember really wanting to go to the dermatologist and I lived in a really small town and my mom had to take me to Burlington Vermont which was an hour away. You had to go on a ferry to get their wait. Where are you? From a rally Manhattan New York. I was born but that I lived I lived I grew up in Plattsburgh New York, which is by like Montreal Canada. Oh, wow. Okay. So way up North you're like, I feel like I'm a Cali girl. I just knew I wasn't out there. I knew that I needed to be in like a bigger city. Yeah, like I knew that wasn't my vibe totally because your vibe to me is such SoCal Los Angeles goddess. Don't even like die for you easy boy. Breezy laid back. So you start it. You went to Association School. What school did you go to it was called Marinello ago. Oh, yeah. Oh my God. Yeah. It's here anymore. Like a bunch of them. I think they were huge and then they actually recently closed down like they went bankrupt Yang, which is so sad. Yeah. A lot of people went to yeah, that's a lot of Pacific shirt. Yeah, and then after that I kind of went from there I had already. I knew I wanted to do it. So I was already working as a receptionist at a spa hoping when I get School the let me work here. They didn't let me work there. But one of the estheticians got me a job working for a dermatologist. So that's kind of where I learned everything. I was so lucky to get that job because otherwise you come out of school. You really have no idea what you're doing because you're really going to school just to pass that state board and get your life. That's it. Right and you come out and you're like, I have no idea what I'm going to do. So working for her. That's where I learned everything. So I think that's actually a really great point because a lot of times people want to know, where did you go to school but especially Really with aestheticians you go, just to learn protocol. Yeah to get your license. Yes like that and you really learn a lot of what makes you an esthetician right from the people you train under $100 and you train under some amazing people. Yeah. So I think the fact that you train you work with the dermatologist is a really big part of it too. Yeah, that's not sure why you know so much about also, you know, that's luck to like most dermatologists aren't going to let someone that just came out of school work for them. So it was like really lucky that she did like They threw me in like you must have been super eager and like Beyond but scared out of my mind. So and I worked directly with dr. Bonitas. And so what would happen is I would give the facial and then she would come in and look at their skin and say what they needed. So I learned different medications and different skin conditions. So but you don't learn that at at a spa no at all. No, and that's I think that's amazing. Yeah, especially like pinpointing skin condition. Yeah. Yeah, I always think about wanting to just intern for a Dermatology has you total hundred that shit. It would be my dream. I know it would be one of my jobs. I've just everything. Yeah, so, okay. How did you transition into having celebrity clientele when I worked at one of the Spas I met Jessica Alba and so that's how it happened. And I think just because when she's so she's so loyal with the people she works with and we had become. Friends over time that once she put me in it was a lure magazine then I think it just slowly started happening. Well because we've talked about this aspect I so I got a facial with Shaunie a little bit before this podcast and we were joking that nobody's your client in Allah, like right like you can say like, oh, this is my client, but then you'll see that different people go after your quote-unquote client, but I actually have found a lot of celebrities. These are DieHard loyalists to the people that they end up working with especially you I feel like yeah, your clients are like super loyal to you. That's nice. Yeah. I mean I've had the same clients forever. So I am really lucky but that's sort of how it all came about. Is it ever awkward though when so when Jessica mentioned you and Al or and and she said, you know, this is my aesthetician that I work with at least she said it but then I feel like sometimes We get pitched people as so-and-so's aesthetician or so and so's hair stylist. It's like they haven't worked with them in years. I don't do I won't let the item never let that happen. Yeah, so I always make sure like if someone hasn't come to see me in a year. I'm not let them I also don't really talk about anyone. Yeah, but if somebody needs to use a name it's like if they actually see me, yes, but I'm not not if I haven't seen them in a year, there's no way totally and you have a such a strong following On Instagram and people like love to hear your tips and tricks, but I think also there is that celebrity aspect that they're like, oh she does so and so skin but you on the other hand aren't like this whole like influencer culture is like not your cup of tea. You don't look so good at it. Like I know that you can consider yourself active thing. But is that your government is amazing not an easy thing. I mean, it takes a lot of it takes a big push for me to do all of that. It was really hard in the beginning. But now you're just kind of like We're going to ice long as it comes off, you know, authentic. Yes. I want to just touch on the fact that you started out of your house. Right? No, so I used to I mean before here, yes, but before that, I worked everywhere. I worked I worked at a bunch of different places. I even worked out of Jessica's house for a little bit. Wow. I had left a spa and she was like you're and by the way, we didn't even know each other that well like I was just Our esthetician maybe I'd gone to like a party at our house once you can she was like, you know, what why don't you just set up at my house and so she set up an area. I think she actually had it set up for me. Like I didn't even do that and that was how she was renting because she was fixing her own house and it had like this side side area to it and I just set up there and worked. It's so crazy. I think about that. She would beautifully generous as crap. So crazy, so then I worked there or doctor's office bounced around and then what happened was I was pregnant with my second child and I was working all the time at a doctor's office. And you know, like I was just like big and like it was a lot of like a constantly was giving facials and Jessica actually was like you have a back office at your house just set up there. Yeah, and I did it thinking no one would calm but what happened was is everyone wanted to come so then I was like, well, I can't go back to the doctor's office. So that's How it happened? Yeah, and I loved that. I mean obviously the new place is yay donning great energy. Yeah. I really did. It felt very cozy and very very you yeah music that. Yeah. It's still very much. Yeah came Vibe here, but like definitely I love that. I thought I would never ever leave. I really truly was like this is what I want to do. Like, I don't want to move it just seemed so private, but then I was able to create this in this has been amazing. And also really private. Yeah. So a lot of people want to know about your clients because they truly have amazing skin. What's the key to getting the glow some of your the Hollywood? Holler? Yeah clients would have I don't know just having all using all the right products. I'm really into peels yet. So and a good peel will always give you that amazing glow. I think that's kind of everything sort of based around the peel and I have one peel that I developed myself and Usually what I kind of use for any kind of like event or that's my go-to. Is there anybody that you think should stay away from peels like a specific skin type? I mean if you're super super sensitive you can't but otherwise no, I think it's also depends on the type of Peel how strong the peel is. You know what I mean? I tend to use pretty light PLS. Yeah, really love really deep peels unless you have a lot of damage otherwise and I kind of stay away from they can just be too much. I just think like we're overdoing it you end up damaging your skin. I think I used to work at this place and we were taught just to exfoliate every day. Like that's all she wanted you to do is exfoliate physical exfoliant. Yeah and every and chemical and because of that I think that that's why I have pigmentation is from that I agree. I so Shawn and I both have melasma. It's like how we bonded initially. We're like, oh, yeah. We're in this club together. And one of the things that I told her initially before like the first time I saw her was I was a chronic over exfoliator and I've talked about that a lot on the podcast but really it was like I was doing a scrub in the shower on my Clarisonic are cleansing brush, whatever you want to call it. Sorry and then, you know would go ham with like chemical exfoliants to and it was making my skin so thin and read already. It was also like very trendy like five years ago course, I know like all the lasers that everyone does. Yeah healing Lasers and then on top of it, we're all using the most active ingredients. Now if we didn't used to all use retinol's and things like that, so you using all those things you're going to damage your skin exactly and it can actually cause more pigmentation. I know my melasma as a result in my birth control, but I think for a while it was so bad because I was just constantly exfoliating my skin. So if you notice that you have melasma and yeah worse like chill out for surely a shit. Yeah. You're also a really big with Sunscreen love sunscreen all the sunscreen. Well, it's just that all the damage that you see people are always like well I'm starting to get wrinkles and I'm fine lines and wrinkles and discoloration. It's like it's the sun. I mean it really is that's what ages you my mom is the palest person in the universe and I just saw her and I think my mom's like 68 now should know my mom's age and I was looking for when I came and I said, I'm so lucky if I just follow the path that I mean, she's really fair to And she has never been in the sun like ever. Oh my God. She sounds like my mom. I got Christine never in the sun. Yeah, does it use anything as never used a retinol doesn't use anything but it's just never been in the sun. Yeah, we had Renee below which we know your good friend lost her friends with her and she actually talked about you know, she's like, I know everybody says you should have sun protection. It's like the staple that aestheticians tell their clients. But really if you're not protecting your skin the right way, it affects the entire rest of your routine. So we just talked about over exfoliation. What do you think is another big factor that's negatively affecting people's skin care routines right now, like what products or like I mean just like a mistake. Yeah, maybe a mistake that you think people are making I think I mean, I didn't go very slowly. She I am. Yeah. I mean, I think the mistake that everyone's making his they're doing too much I think more so like the lasers and all of the things that ever it's just too much also. Another thing is that people will read about a product that somebody's using and they think nobody thinks about like you have to use the product that's right for your skin type. So people will use that not understand like why they're breaking out exactly. That's I mean, there's just too many products so many and there's there's consumer there's editor overload, you know, we're constantly trying to weed through everything but because beauties of 500 billion dollar business like everybody wants a piece of the pie so Like for the 100th time par back your routine. Yes. Yes, take a breather. Do a three-step thing. If you're you know, overloading in your Skin's not reacting the way you want to I mean, it's all inflammation like everything the root causes inflammation. So just like take it down a notch Shawny you obviously show us on your Instagram. But can you tell our listeners who maybe haven't followed you? What's your routine at home? Like how many products are you using? I'm really really simple so morning. Nike lens I use an antioxidant use a vitamin C product and then sunscreen that's already has Moisturizer in it. So I'm done and then at night I cleanse I use retinol every night. It's foliate with a chemical exfoliant once a week. And then I moisturize sometimes I also use a hyaluronic acid before kind of switch that up but I'm pretty much always using a retinol. So let's yeah, let's jump into retinol then obviously you created retinol with reform. All of your clients have talked about this you reformulated. This year are just repackaged repackage, which is repackaging again. Okay, haven't that oh really? Yeah, so everything's going to change in a few months. Okay new packaging you will both get it but I yes for now because I had the packaging of all the other products and then that retinol was just all by itself. So I felt bad for it totally. So we just threw it into a new Chic bottle for now. Okay. Got it. Yeah, so then let's talk about retinol because a lot of people have a love-hate relationship. Yes. I actually got to the point where I'm finally at a good place with retinol. Like I can put it on at night and my skin isn't super red the next day or it isn't flaky right and I think sometimes people are like I am just too sensitive for what all is there a right way to use it. Well, I think everybody's scared because when people think of retinol they think of like Retin-A. Yeah, and so that's why everyone's afraid but it's not the same and I think the most important thing with using any Null is that you start with one to two times a week and build up. So if you build up slowly then you're going to know when you need to stop because you're like, okay now I'm starting to get a little dry. Yeah, would you say that? It's like finding the right pair of shoes or something like there. There's a different retinol's for different shirt. Yeah, and some people can handle a prescription and some people can't like I can use one, but I can't use one every day a prescription. Obviously, they're giving you the same effect. It's just prescription would be faster, but Also, like if you're going to have all that down time using one why use one? Yeah why I made mine. Yeah, so I fell in love with retinol from working for the Derm. So that was where it started also like you look at people that have been using retinol since you know, like they're 20. Yeah, and they're in their 50s. Now you die. You're like they have like the nicest skin ever beautiful texture firmness is actually my next question is like what age should people start using a And I would use start using a retinol in my 20s for sure. Yeah, and like even if it's once a week like yeah get started and that area and also, you know Shawnee has hers but there's obviously plenty of knobs that are over the counter. I don't think there is a line that doesn't have a retinol now because everybody knows yeah something actually blew my mind and I knew this but I don't know I knew it but I didn't like really think about it like retinol isn't an exfoliator. Like people think retinol is an exfoliator because it makes some people's skin Flakes and stuff like that, but it's like such a deeper. It's actually cell turnover. Like that's the difference and I think people have been using those two terms interchangeably like right I'll turn over and exfoliation and using it probably to so much so that they can see their skin right a layer coming off when it's like that's not what's supposed to be happening. Yeah, and I brighter and smoother and I know that actually a lot of experts are now speaking out and saying You can wear retinol during the day. Dr. Loretta brought hers up and said, you know, this is actually a vitamin C and Retinol Serum that you can put on in the morning, which at first I was like are you on drugs lady like to read you talking about but I think that's also like a trend we're going to start seeing in 2020 people wearing retinol during the like their morning routine. Yeah. I think it's just you always want to be careful obviously have to be a person that is not going to you know, you're not someone that wants to be in the Sun. And exactly what did you use when you are pregnant? All right now no retinol. I used God. I used active Serum by is clinical. I love that. Is that what you recommend? Like you're all of their products don't with is clinical. They don't go into the bloodstream. So I love all their products really great for when you're breastfeeding or pregnant. You turned me on to their Pro he'll serum which is fantastic. Is that the same one vitamin C? Ene yeah, she you the recommended the Hydra cool. That's kind of ironic acid. Yes. Yeah, they make it like their products are so good. Yeah, I always say is clinical me too. Yeah I did too, but and they were like, well, we don't even care but it's okay. And by the way, I've been calling them is for years and they just told me great. Perfect time. I said learn something nice. Yeah, it's okay. Yeah. Okay. So what treatments are you excited about microcurrent? That's what I'm most excited about. I also really love I told you about that little micro needling stamp. I'm obsessed with yes. The one from our friend. Yes. Yep. I have that. I really like it. I think it's great. What do you use in yours? So she gives you when she gives you her. Yeah, it's a snail. Yeah, and so, okay. So there's the one that she makes you and rice the one that she can admire. Mr. At the things we do, well, no she has it's the same exact tool. It's just the differences when you come in and see her she puts Botox. Yes, and then I like took it home because there were still some left over right? Ah, but then if you feeling it at home than it has been I guess yeah. Got it. Yeah, I have done I was thinking about this after we talked about it. I have done the micro infusion with the mix of hyaluronic acid and Botox and she did it under my eyes not Vanessa. Somebody else did it under? Or my eyes which I thought was nice for like a Plumping effect, especially because I have like a hollowness under my eye and it's a way to get BOTOX in that area without the injection because you should not be botoxing under that area. I actually have had a friend that did that and like made her eyes droopy like it made her head like the sad droopy eyes. I know and like on top of that optically like you could go blind, right FYI, we're not doing so like don't do that. Everybody micro infusions like a safer way. Do that, but you have these mm back to microcurrent because I am now a huge fan of microcurrent recurrent so much. I think in my 20s when I would get microcurrent done to me. I'm like, okay, whatever right but doing worse. Like I was in my 20s, I didn't have you know, like I didn't see like the jowls coming on but Shawnee has these amazing hand amazing handle amazingly gloves and these wells and in the gloves and the this is kind of what I mean when she's like no bullshit like she's not like, okay, so I'm going to put this on your face. Face and your it's going to feel weird. Literally. She just started going and I felt it in my tooth, but I felt the market microcurrent in my left hand. I like you warned me. Oh my God, we were talking about everything and literally it was just like yeah, we're and I'm good and he video this and I wish I would have but I have told you I did enjoy we can throw my videos when she's doing them, but then we talked the whole time so whatever but it is the craziest thing and then afterwards your face is a Actually lifted for sure but it works so well pretty gentle it's gentle and if it unless it hits a nerve or your tooth. Well you can go up. Also I was really nice to you. Okay, go up really high with those. Yeah, and it wasn't it. Like it doesn't hurt. It's just a weird sensation. Like I always get a metallic taste. Yeah, and then I felt it like in my tooth which was hilarious and that's how I knew. It was like the microcurrent gloves but a lot of celebrities do microcurrent ahead of a big event. Yeah because of the instant lifting effect. Fact and over time it's supposed to help actually like stimulates like exercise for your muscles. Yeah. Exactly. It's great. You said that you do it on yourself like everyday everyday? Oh my God. I'm so jealous. It's like I literally when I saw you had those I started like Googling like yeah can't love her just this on Amazon. I don't think I can purchase those gloves. Yeah. I think you it's like, I mean, it's probably for the best always a way but I mean if there's a will there's a way I know that will find it. Well, there's the new facial mask. Right that Peach and Lily came out with and it's my secret. That's interesting. I haven't heard of that. No, it's a sheet mask and it's a serum that's actually activated and the first in the world that you don't need like and I need to see this. I'm gonna send this. I'm going to give it to you because up first when I saw it, I was like this is bullshit, but then I started reading about it and it's one of oh, I did see this. I'm I want dying to try I saw this, but what? But basically it's the first in the world that utilizes a serum that actually creates the microcurrent instead of needing like a device to create it, which I think is super interesting now, I'll say this I don't think it's going to be as powerful. No, it's going to take much longer to see results, but it's probably I'm oh wow, it's all there. Wait. You haven't done this yet? No, you need to do this right now. I need to know about any this immediately. I will also say I would have loved to have seen them do it on someone that actually needed lifting. Yeah. Has she had like beautifully taut skin like she'd beat it what you have the before and afters. Oh, oh, we're getting these tomorrow. We might check this out. Yeah, you know what's going on? I need to try this and get it on my face immediately. But yeah, I think microcurrent over the past couple of years lasers peels like all those things have been really popular but I think 2020 the focus is going to be microcurrent and and obviously there's like new face. Yeah dip and all of those devices but I think 2020 is going to be the year that people actually are like no I need a micro current device in my home. Yeah, I want to sure. Yeah, you also are a big proponent of LED lights love LEDs feel like you are probably one of the first people that you love. Well, I remember first having it done before I started in a facial and I just thought it was so great and it's such an instant you can instantly see a glow and also for someone that has acne. It's like so healing so quickly. Is there a specific light that works better? I can't remember which one is wet. Blue are my favorite so blue is kills the bacteria for acne red boost collagen in the skin great and then there's whites as well right infrared. So mixed together same thing speeds up healing so all combined and you have like a panel also that you like to sit in front of I have a panel and I have a bed bed. And then yeah and then I have the I love the Desi mask. Oh, yes. Oh, yeah, that's like yeah, the the one that one and it's it's Desi. Yeah. Okay, I see. Because I mean there are brands that have made everybody has some available but note Regina ever come back like create another one. No, they just pulled it. And that was it. Yeah, that's they pulled. There's yeah, they pulled it. I think like you do need to do your research when you're buying one of these for at home because they will charge you an arm and a leg but then you don't know if it's actually don't deliver the results Nikita roast who is a makeup artist. She's amazing and she had problems with acne and she actually liked her. Petition told her like you need to buy this panel and she like literally bought this panel and she's like, I don't regret a moment of it when we change my life for sure. It was like it's an investment but it's way better and then she'll use the skinning light the try light. Oh, yeah, she'll take it with her if she has like a breakout but she's like sometimes I just travel with the pan. Yeah. She's like a crazy person like us there's nothing great handheld ones, too. Yeah handheld ones. It's just more of a obviously more of a pain because you have to ride around your face, but Only so I want to get into pimples and breakouts because we know that hormonal acne is a real thing and that adult acne. It's like more relevant than all. I love that. You're pointing to like your one breakout it really but honestly, it keeps coming back. Okay. So this is the question. Yeah, it's Johnny's like we need to get that thing out yet. So let's say you get a pimple and it's in the same spot every single month or every couple of weeks. Why does that happen? And how do we make it stop? This doesn't happen to you. Yeah, well, I think I want this one is because it's by my hairline but a lot of times when you get a pimple and it keeps happening it's because it never you never got it out completely. Yeah. Okay. So that's usually the problem. That's why you usually have to see someone to take you know, I have is a Lancet. Yes. Okay, so I had this one right here, but you got it out. So I feel like now it's just it's done. Yeah, I feel like it's gone. Like she finally and I think that is I mean, that's what I picture like Squeezing it at home. And then do you know recommend people trying to take their own room, you know I do but like you have to know what you're doing, which I mean I try to teach people it's much easier to do it with a Lancet. So you're not. It doesn't become a messy situation. If you're not familiar with a Lancet. It's like a little needle and I'm a again crazy person and I bought like we're 500. Yes. I have a whole box of them. And if I see that I have something that's either. Come to a head or I know I can actually see like the little poor like I can see it. That's really good. Thank you. It's so good. I get in there like Boop and then literally just I lightly press and I have little gloves or a little like a living thing gurgling video. Oh my God. Yeah, you should I don't want to get I'm always scared though because I don't want to know people to yell at you. Yeah be like, well, you're not a professional. Yeah, it's Lee. I mean, I guess that's true, but you're kind of a profession. IBuyPower. I really am trying okay for non-professionals. What should they do? Ooh, when they get a break out or when they have a pimple, I think the best thing to do is spot treat unless it does have if it's a white head you have to get that out. Yeah, so the best way would be to Lance it and okay, so go see get it. Yeah, sure. Whatever you can. Yes, this is what Shawn was. Otherwise, you have to just spot treat until it goes away and just like not touch it. Do you believe in pimple patches? I do. You know what I just started testing them out. You have to be careful because some of them can leave some discoloration because it's so strong when you're wearing that but I have been getting into them. So I read something that is super interesting business a fashion did our maybe it was box boxed did an amazing article on pimple patches and how they're becoming. It's like the number one best seller on Amazon right now star face came out like Julie shot. She was a former Beauty editor until she came out with hers you actually if you're using a pimple patch there has to be an opening for Stuff to come out of it like it's a hydro. Koyla colloid patch. So the whole point is that it sucks. Whatever's in the wound out. So if you're just going to put it on something that doesn't have an opening it nothing's gonna happen. Yeah drawing the outside and I'm a crazy. I keep saying my own crazy person, but I really I have like tried to figure out like the secret sauce for it and if you don't have a Lancet and this is not shaunie's advice. Okay, if you don't have a Lancet, I have a pair of really sharp tweezers. Oh wow. I'll just lightly. Yeah. No, I am not talking about your tweezers. I will lightly just know I will take alcohol sanitize them and then like measure Pleasers or like know tweezing your eyebrows tweezers, but a really deep Point like they're so I know Sean he's like the ones that look like Chopsticks were yes sharp. I know you're talking about and I will you should not be used. I know I'm crazy. I lightly puncture it and then literally I will press down and everything will come out Shawnee. I'm telling you. I'm onto something. What about those little Patches they now have with like almost like the little needle. Yeah, so I use that one the Zips Tikka. Yeah, uh-huh. I found that of the ones that have come out. Those are the watch winner need but they don't do enough to actually like put anything deep into the skin and like might help but it'll help like a smaller pimples. But like for this angry guy up here, that's not gonna work on this guy. Everybody has to read this article on box. It totally blew my mind when it comes to pimple patches like because it teaches you the right way to use them because if you aren't a I love them. I love the cause RX. I think they're the best father XR similar. Yeah, they're the best and like you can they make a one that is so transparent like you could wear it out in public and no one would know you had an aunt to try that one. Yeah, they're amazing. I buy them on Amazon in bulk because they're so fabulous. But if you have a pimple do not take tweezers to them do it. Try it. Don't blame me if you fuck it up. Sorry. She said she stabbed herself. I literally is go Boop. I wasn't different. Stopping yourself with a sharp tweezer and then a little a needle is so much thinner my guy you kidding me. That's that's like a night. Yeah. Listen, it's very gratifying gettin that shit really is though. I'm sure it is when you're just squeezing it. Yeah, but to recap if you have a white head you have to remove the white head like sure that's not just going to go away with well, you know tender loving care if you have like something underneath the skin just don't Spot Treatment. Yeah the cystic pimple you want to leave alone. It's got to run. Its course. It usually contains. It's up to five days. Usually but you have to let it run. Its course. There's nothing there's no picking. You're not going to get anywhere. Okay, great. Love that. I have a question. Yes. Is there like a common skin issue that like you're seeing a lot more of lately with your clients or you know getting a lot of questions about on Instagram. I'm seeing a lot of rashes. I was just talking to dr. Bonita is about this too because I was like, do you see more? She's like I'm a dermatologist Shawnee I see them all the time, but I feel like I'm seeing so many people have allergies. He's now like so many of my clients out of nowhere all of a sudden they start getting these like weird little little pimples everywhere and I'm like that's a rash and they end up having they can't figure out what it is that they're using what's changed and I think people are having really weird food allergies and also from a lot of overuse of all these active products. I see that a lot actually now, I think that's a really great Point especially as you get older your Body changes and different ways it would make sense that something might bring on an allergy that you didn't expect. So like after years of using one Prada, it's like I hated the taste of lemon as a kid now. I want a lemon bar every night. Like it just is $11 and change Johnny earlier was like can I would really die for some beef jerky. We know now for those part. It was like I don't have a DJ's like it's all I know but If you so I guess the question is how do you know if it's a rash versus it's so hard. Well, usually with you'll see a lot of it's almost like dermatitis. You'll see a lot of people with it's very very very small bumps. Sometimes they can fill up just a little bit and it's almost like if you wipe them with all the warm washcloth, they would just go away. Do you know yeah. Yeah, that's that's like a dermatitis rash situation and it always happens around my mouth. Yeah, a lot of people get that around the mouth. Of nose area, but it can be from so many different things. So what do you recommend going to a dermatologist for that? Because it's hard to treat. I mean, I recently got it and I don't know what it came from and I just stopped using everything and then finally it went away. Yeah, but hard for people like yeah, I'm sure a lot of our listeners because we're trying new products all the time. Right? And if you if you invest in a skincare regimen that you believe in and then this is happening. It's going to be really difficult for you to want to give that up. But I I think the best thing is if you have a rash or you have a breakout that you can't pinpoint like what if it's not hormonal it's not going away. You need to kind of just go clean turkey ya go retinol know retinol. Nothing use a gentle cleanser to make sure you're moving all your makeup, maybe even a micellar water and then make sure you're protecting your skin with the sun block and use a nice moisturizer at night. But like nothing that is too fragrant. Like keep it super hard back. What are your suggestions for spot testing a product? Oh before I just always tell people I mean, yes, but you can if you're really sensitive for sure just putting a little bit like around near your ear is great. But otherwise, I'm more of like just start with once a week camp on anything active and then build up slowly. You got to give your your skin a chance. Are there any skincare trends that you're seeing that you wish would die that like when people talk to you about like what they're doing or you see it on Instagram. You're like, oh my God. I wish people would stop. Stop doing this. I don't know I guess so many of the lasers. Yeah. Yeah a lot of lasers and then I'll see people after I'm like, did you like it and they're like, I didn't really notice a difference and I'm like, why do you keep doing it? What about since you know, the holidays are coming up and the there's gonna be a lot of traveling doing like a skincare routine on the plane. I think it depends if you get if you're someone that gets really dry definitely having a mass that you can do. You're on the plane. It just kind of depends. It doesn't usually bother me when I'm on the plane, but for some people if you get dry definitely using a mask, I also just feel like sometimes you know, the plane skincare has turned into like a trend all my goddamn new brands that have launched and they're like specifically made for the plane, but it's because it's a recycled air. So I'm like, I don't want anything that's weird to me. Right and also hyaluronic acid like Like for a lot of the a lot of people are like, oh I'm going to play them to be dehydrated. Let me put hyaluronic acid, but guess what how ironic acid like pulls from that the moisture from the air. So if there's no moisture in the air, I could actually dehydrate right? So you have to just be smart. I see people sometimes putting on like sheet masks and stuff and like whatever right? Enjoy yourself care. Like this is more of like a I feel like it's more of like an anxiety. Yeah, we're do sir. I think it's actually a lot. I'm sure what like use what's a good plane routine? Yeah, and it's more about afterwards like before and Which is what our dear friend Renee always has to she's like just wash your face right after when you go home rap. Yeah done. Yeah, I agree. Los Angeles is brought to you by after pay partnered with more than 9,000 United States Brands and retailers after pay allows for you to shop now. Enjoy now and pay later Shaunie. Is there anything we should be on the lookout for from you in 2020 a come back to music videos? No. No, I think just new amazing products. So I'm developing a bunch of product. So I'm excited about all of that. Okay, so we have some Very exciting news for our amazing listeners. Obviously, it's the holidays we wanted to do another giveaway for you guys. So Shaunie is graciously going to give away her entire skin regimen for you and your friend so go to our Instagram right now and enter to win all the instructions are there and we're going to wrap this up so that you can get these products ahead of the holidays so that you can share the beautiful skincare well, You remind us where we can find you. You mean like my Instagram? Yeah, Shani Darden or Shawnee Darden.com. Perfect. If you are able to get in and La I highly recommend coming to the spot. It's gorgeous. You'll never hear when I walk in my shoulders just like yeah lease and I like take this deep breath and I'm like relax. I got it and you'll be back for our little our little girls night. Okay. I'm so we're doing girl like that. Done. Laughs yeah, it's - yes, so Shawnee. Thank you so much you guys love love you, and thank you guys for listening as always. You can find us on Instagram at gloss underscore Angeles on Twitter at Los Angeles pod and find us on Facebook just search Los Angeles, and we'll see you next week. Bye. Wow.
Continuing skin week, today we're talking about the best way to pop a pimple at home and the most common skin care issue Shani Darden encounters when treating her clients. Shani is a renowned esthetician and the secret behind some of Hollywood’s most flawless faces, including Jessica Alba, Chrissy Teigen, and Rosie Huntington-Whiteley. Her passion for simple, yet effective and no bullshit solutions have garnered her a loyal client base and a massive social media following, so much so that Shani is often booked out a year in advance. In June 2019, Shani opened her first flagship studio in Beverly Hills where she treats clients and shares her expertise with her followers on Instagram. Follow Shani: https://www.instagram.com/shanidarden/ Shop her products: https://www.shanidarden.com/collections/all  Be sure to subscribe and review us on Apple Podcasts: bit.ly/Gloss_Angeles Listen to us on Stitcher and Spotify, too! Follow us on Instagram: instagram.com/Gloss_Angeles Shop all of our product lists: http://www.shopstyle.com/shop/GlossAngeles Shop Kirbie’s stash: https://www.shopstyle.com/shop/Kirbie-Johnson Shop Sara’s stash: https://www.shopstyle.com/shop/saratan Gloss Angeles is co-hosted by Kirbie Johnson and Sara Tan. Our editor is Patrick Muldowney. 