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I love you d I'm Maria Menounos and you're tuned in to AfterBuzz TV the ESP n of T v-- talk now let the buzz. Hey, what's going on guys? What's up guys? Happy Halloween Eve, mate? Yes, my name is Rogan and I'm here straight up from the UK visit n. Yeah, that's why we say it over there. I got a lot of my mates with me tonight, and we're going to be talking to him my accents. On the face. So I'm going to throw it over to my boy CEO who's got his drink on which is good because now have some personality. What's up guys? I'm Theo my fight. My accent sucks. I know but let's take a shot. I'm the best the best there is this guy? I let him be the moderator believe it or not because I manifest. I'm the best moderator. I've got the girl. That's all I care about he does but excited to talk about this show and let's get to it. Next up we've got one of the most veteran players ever to be on the challenge. I sound more like bear. I really do it CT. What's up everybody? I let you kids run rampant think you're running this house, but you guys don't know how it's done back in my day. It used to be done like this. I would house my boy Johnny Bananas and show them who the real goal was. I need to run things for y'all kids running your mouth on this team, but hey, I'm still here and finally last but not Please we have the host of The Challenge for God knows how long 15 plus years. It's me made TJ Lovin. What's going on guys huge a Lavin here. How you guys doing? Great to see you guys back for another challenge a panel. How's it going CT great elimination tonight guys. So what we're doing tonight on the panel, you have 40 seconds or 40 minutes. All right, you're going to be able to start. Okay, you're going to follow. No II bus. I'm the best. What are you talking about? CT you kids work it out, right? All right. Now we're going to break character. Hi guys. We have a lot to talk about is our Halloween episode. So we're all dressed up. Please tell us in live chat what you think about our costumes if you like them hate them but just pretend that you like them. We got a lot to talk about we got to talk about turbo going home. Randomly. We're going to talk about a really cool Proving Ground, which reminded me of Blockbuster Video. So I thought were going to watch a bunch of VHS tapes. It felt that boring to me and I've got a great news topic. Ninja and it's awesome. All right, overall thoughts guys. Let's get into it. I was so it was a good episode but I was just so disappointed with just everyone in this episode. Okay, really good episode as usual, but just the choices they've made I didn't agree with I this episode was couldn't have been more crazy are an off-the-charts. I loved it. It was at a good competition. I was excited to see the Brits win, but then it went off the rails. It was so crazy, but good. I'm here for all of us. Of it. Yeah wowza. Yeah. I know the I think ultimately it was a good episode but the decisions are made the choice. I mean, that's what kind of killed it for me at the episode as itself is good. But what happened in the episode I was not happy with those pretty bummed out and that's what kind of ruined it for me. So I'd say on a scale of like one two, five three every average scores three average. Oh, I'd give it a 5/5 for the choices. They made I give them a negative 100. I mean pretty the bricks technically got a player back and technically of - player on the US side. So if we look at it that way it was kind of just like a nothing Burger. But yeah, that's what they could have also gained two players or know that that make sense either. Yeah. I think you can actually came out. Okay. Well, that's we'll get into that later the main the first main topic I'd like to talk about is the whole turbo thing fair or unfair not all round. It's all Ashley. He just yeah, okay. I'm not condoning violence. He did threaten people but he didn't touch anyone the rules are you can't fight anyone every single person that's been kicked off in the past has touched someone. I've never seen anyone someone get kicked off for not touching someone. Well one thing that he did say in his interview Hussein how I don't know if we didn't see it on air or in the editing whatever but he was he said that he actually tried to punch Jordan. He said he tried to punch. And it drive-through. Yes. I mean, I don't that means like he actually like took a swing and I mean because once you do that, you're gone, you know, so yeah, I don't know if that was the case or not. And then to as you heard TJ's as I said, you know, you only get one warning. Yeah II you go home. So that was our second time. So go ahead the other reason why I think it had to go down that way is because turbo was like, I'm not going to stop I'm going to kill him like this isn't I'm not going to not it's not like when the The players that totally get it and have been on the challenge before say like we do when we're not here like no, I'm not going to hit you they fully comprehend turbos. Like I don't care I would die for my mom and I will kill Jordan for my honor like he would fight him there and get sent home. Well in the thing is TJ said you only get one chance but that's a lie because a couple of seasons ago while I'm blinking on his name the guy who's got in like two other women pregnant Tony Tony Tony time. He got a second chance during Of his Seasons where he was in danger getting sent home and then TJ he gave him a second chance. I saw it was quite easy. But in theory, they gave turbo the second chance as well turbo had to Turbo went through four security guards. Like we don't know what he doesn't was not going to be stopped. I don't think I mean I'm super bummed as my yeah. It's I think it's awful that turbo went home. And it's it's Ashley's fault and it's Jordan started it all Jordan wouldn't drop it when everyone said don't do this. Don't do this Jordan push. Just pokes the bear Jordan imitated him. It was don't copy my walk pushed him over then when turbo was freaking out. What was Jordan doing? He was sitting on that couch and just not saying exactly why because honestly Jordan was very smart. I mean as far as if you're playing like a cerebral game your it's like a game of chess with Jordan did was genius. You know, he found her bows weakness, which that's his weakness. It's and and it no, I mean not even that but I mean, he's a hothead you know, and that's that's where most people like turbo that are very good like they You find that thing that just sets him off and that's when they make mistakes, which turbo did Jordan found that and as you said, you know Jordan just kind of sit back and just watched him self-destruct or don't did that Takara to which started the whole thing. He gets under people's skin, right. So he's introduced Gator. He knows that a needle at the right trigger point and make people freak out and see cars smarter than that. This is only turbos second trial judge, so he didn't like nany said he doesn't really understand. What's really happening? So I felt bad for him because I just felt like it wasn't fair. And yeah, so here's the thing about Turbo 2 ways. He takes it to the next level with this we've seen people threaten people on the challenge before but his act of aggression with it. It seems like I felt like you really might physically hurt someone when they're not looking or something so they felt the clearly The Producers felt it was best to just send him home and maybe he'll be invited back under certain circumstances like you you can't even make one. Like you can't be threatening people in the way that you're doing it because it's to the next level. Well, you said it loud the last show. I think he reminds you of a younger CT. Yes. Definitely we have seen that before. Yeah with Adam like yeah, it was kind of that kind of resembles. What happened very true. Yeah or even someone just hits that that point man where they're just they but they're gone now, you know, you're just blacked out. It's like this. There's just television but also with turbo I do think I'm curious to find out The aftermath of this one's were done watching and we can see on our Union. We might hear something out of every Union but he doesn't come back now. He might have they might have said like if you go back will you not fight Jordan? He probably was like no I will fight. I will kill Jordan like I bet ter was like no I will not there were some rumors out there just on the internet saying that turbo is like banned from challenges, but I don't think he really was ever band. I think it was just like a lot of warnings if you want to come back. He's not on that. Even I think we've confirmed that right. I don't think he's oh well great. Well, then maybe he's out. I'm probably just what I might be wrong. What is a live chat. I think I'm curious to know. Um, I'm chatting and while we're looking at that I think Paulie and CEO should have been asked to go home because they're bad kissing last episode then because that was just god-awful. There you go. Alright. So let's get to our challenge of the day. It's called with it's like it's a mud pit and TJ's gonna throw a bomb. There's gonna be some other bombs in there, but it's kind of like a musical chairs where there's one less bomb or chair for the people to sit in. So one one or two people each round start to get eliminated because there's last stop balls or bombs to get and did you notice TJ got the throw one into like start the game, but also even when he threw in one there was still one less. Yeah bomb for them to get so I thought that was interesting and happy conspiracy with that coming up. What did you guys think of the mud pit? Oh and one more thing before you guys give that a penny. I thought Kaylee I wrote Kaylee in that tank top. Just gorgeous. Alright. Anyways, I will say I definitely enjoyed watching the girls doing this and I know that's probably gonna give me a lot of heat but you know, it was fun. And what why would he kiss you heat on cases people out there? Is it just because it's 2019. You can't enjoy women in mud. What does what's right? Yeah, so that was fun. Yes, but on the other no to as a guy though, that actually looked fun to do though. It looked just like old school fun football in the mud. So that looks like a good time. Challenge yourself. I mean I thought the guys could have been a little more entertaining to be honest. It was okay. It's too goddamn slipper. You can't even hold on to it. Yeah, it wasn't it wasn't that thrilling, you know, so I think the girls are a little more entertaining than the guys over all the challenge itself. It was all right kind of a great the guys. It was just like oh, oh, oh, okay. It's over the Brits one and I guess it was nice to see the girls. I had harkened back to when I loved Cara for being actual fighter. Two-on-one. We forget with all this snake or E. And Paula re and all this stuff going on in Carl and what a great competitor. She hasn't how fun it is to actually watch her compete when she's up against the wall and she has to perform even in the last couple of Seasons. She's got the reputation. She's Cara. She hasn't done a bunch of elimination. She gets people don't want to go against our so she doesn't do a bunch. I love watching her compete. That's why we fell in love with her and be nice be nice if she go back to like her rookie season where she Was there to compete? Yeah. Yeah, she got bullied a little bit, but she always would just overcome it and Riverside and that was nice and now she's got this whole other side to her that I just like said did that live in your whole life? Because that can go back inside. I was actually rooting for when it was it was her against to California. I was like, you know secretly or like low-key I was like, I hope she wins. I was not like I got two reasons for not to first of all, I'm not a huge fan of car. Second of all I needed that UK team to fight. I had a great chance to win this UK for the on the guys side. At least those boys are not just big but they're just ripped. Yeah, and then you look at the US side now, here's my first conspiracy. Well, hold on hold on with the exception of CT now, but these days yeah. Well, so here's the here's the first conspiracy TJ. You pulled the names out of the bag. My conspiracy is they odd the had the perfect amount of names already in Bag in the three that were included. We're not even in that bag. They didn't have poly in that bag. It's actually wasn't that back in 90 wasn't that bad? It's past because what they were trying to do is make the team as even as possible. So in theory Polly's the smallest one, I guess so that will leave him out. And then that's how they got the guys to have an equal try to have us and guys. Well that's like conspiracy theory, which I'm not totally onboard that it's a conspiracy but it's okay Isabel production said these are the people we want in because Jordan adjust, you know, I'm the best. I'm the best Jordan was the first man out so Jordan, Ins good at a lot of things but I think this was setting up that he talks a lot of good game. But when it comes down to brute strength as Leroy also said later like dude you talk about your the best if it was me and you strength you're out of there like Jordans Savvy and good and really talented but if it's just strength like that weird, but right when Theo's are not there when when he said that comment though. Nobody right here Evan Leary said that comment I because when's the last time Leroy Won a challenge that I've won today's I mean it was just and broken broken. And Joffrey was late. It was me. I told you I mean it was Theo of Thea Leroy was the last man standing and he almost wasn't going to be bright but in the past like Leroy and I don't get me wrong. I'm all I'm team Leroy for sure. But in the past he really hasn't he's never ever want to find out so I don't think he can really like say that I don't know what he's made of because we haven't really Gotten to see it yet, but he does a good job. And I really like seeing his personality. Come on. That's all I agree with that every season. It's been like almost on his best friend and this is a way through over at throwback. So I don't know some of you guys might not even know I'm talking about but it's almost like when you have the Bulls and Jordan and Pippen and run almost like Leroy is like a Pippin, you know, he's like Scotty. He's like, he plays his role. He's good. But you know, he's not Jordan, you know, I mean, right I'm going to see Toni kukoc. Okay. I haven't heard that name in a while. Kukoc at least I deserve the Luc Longley, right and I agree that look like we lost our viewers better the quality. Is that a center for the Bulls in the nineteen? All right back to the story. Even Pam's are all right. So here's my second conspiracy. I'm guessing this one. So on the guy side it was two guys left or three. Yeah, two guys left on the US three guys on the UK and TJ throws the ball into the technique the center. He I don't know. I think he just messed up but it's a fun conspiracy. See, he threw it way left to the US side and they just pick the ball up and then Zach was able to toss it to our Boy Leroy and that he could go for another one and that way they could hopefully stay in the game. I was like man did TJ would try to keep it even like me try because it's three versus two. Yeah. What I noticed was the team to lose a player first, then lost the entire right challenge like both time every time it happened which waves which makes sense. Of course is kind of game, you know, I can't come back. 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Yeah, once it became a numbers game. Once it was this many on this many it's sort of over but I have about a shout-out to how not liking Josh you tried to tackle me run and they were like, he's on your team dude. He's on Team. Oh my gosh, but he also he also then blocked for see now. I'm gonna go on team Josh. Yeah. Yeah, I believe he then also blocked for Leroy and then Leroy was able to dive in thanks to Josh blocking the other guy and then Josh sacrificing yourself, right? Well, I feel like the real MVP was I think Zach? Yeah, I'm with you hundred percent. I wrote it down. I just think he's so good. I think he's having such a great season this year. Yeah, you just don't like him because the way he treats women I totally agree, but it's not that okay again, I'm super / Leroy dropping all the facts this episode. He was like Zach you talk about how great you are to you gasps out just like me on your final. You're a crybaby to like that was so long ago that which is good and an asset. I'm not I'm not saying I don't like a good asset for your team with a good team acid for sure. Here's the thing with that doing is he's just he's a real Old person, like what I loved what he said when he said what he what he was gonna do with the money, you know, he's not gonna donate it to a charity or anything. He's gonna spoil himself and spoil Jenna and he's like he's being real because I guarantee you some of the people who say, oh, I'm gonna donate it to this or that I do something really good with it aren't really telling the truth. And you know, he's being 100% honest you can only give him respect for that. They don't think that I liked with that bit though was Leroy literally was just like it's like he has like a pistol and it was just boom boom boom right here. Like anybody that chiming huge it's like one in on what he was like on point though, you know, it was just like talking crap and he but even talk bad about himself when he said look like he's like you can plead died. So did I like we both basically died, you know, so he was just telling it like it is and I really like that because it was real it was wrong and it was true, you know, and he's saying Josh you're a crybaby like his ain't big brother like toes and just find out. Yeah, he did speak the truth. I think he wants to be a team player. It's good. I this is the turning point in the season where we're seeing Leroy kind of go to the go to the side. It's time to you know, you're with us or against us and same with Joss which we'll get to but it's like you can't be mr. Nice guy the whole time and it's time you guys choosing the the clearly bulkier side instead of you know, this is where he really could have jumped on the Tory Jordan side, which is I like that team so much more. Yeah, I got Zach and Nani Jordan Tori and then I like Josh. I don't know everyone hates. I like Josh. So I like this TV I'm saying no, no, no, no, no. Like yes, he does. He doesn't want you to win parle Pas Le I want to give a shout-out to Julie Brisson. What's up in the live chat and she says maybe Zach is just a lot better without Jenna. There is a great. This is what I think he does have that non-dramatic side because he always has drama with her. I wouldn't be surprised if both of those made an agreement. You know, I'm going to do one Challenge and there's just not smart more likeable not together the other Thing is that each of these it's unfortunate. I wish they could unite personally. These are my feelings. They're both good. It's hard to pick a side. I'm inclined towards car poly side. I don't know why because I really liked Laurie car of deep down even though he had go Crush ya always be my number-one girl, but I love Tori. I love Nani. I love Jordan and yet your team Korra Paulie. This is still love car more than all of them. I think no, I don't know. I'm just kidding backing up our love just like Zach. Oh, sorry not I'll come over there with transition. Keep going. No, but it's funny. It's hard to watch them tear themselves apart. I wish they would unite but my my point and I'm getting there I swear is They're going. Oh, they're just doing it for numbers. So are you each team is acting like the other side is evil and not playing a smart one of the sides. Yeah one side is they're both being led by strong people. We didn't I didn't hear Polly say two words this episode. I love that. Holly said one thing posted Tory's the strongest girl on their team and yet he still voted her aunt Polly's a moron. Yeah. So there you go that Tori's stupid way to play the game. But they're all doing it enough being honest. It's almost as dumb is thrown in Georgia tonight. That's how dumb it is. That's actually smart for if you want to that was we'll get there we'll get there and you know, it was a good comment to support what we have to say next comment. So yeah support about comment. 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I don't know if it story that's getting it's just Jordans really good at and I think Tory gets bumpy like Lipton with that which I think is unfortunate and then second someone else honestly think yes and Austin Kim who I also agree with that said that there's favorites on both sides it is it's just I wish each side would stop pretending that they have the moral High Ground. The only person I like on Cara side is Leroy. I think that's the only person well, they're like, oh Leroy is is following Polly and car and I'm like no Leroy is now sleeping with Cam and there it's like you're not gonna think about what what side is what sides Dion technically that there's Polly did it. But no because car like a tax heard the other week. Why would she be on her side? She's still on that side because ninjas their sorry, Georgia. I can't numbers. So I like two people in that side. I don't like anybody NASA. I just thought a huge fan of that whole side. It's great. Let's start. Let's go to the tribunal and who gets chosen Jenny? No, Kaylee Kaylee gets it and then she chooses Jenny and Jos which is fine. Even though see the weaker side is Georgia Jenny and feel they like the only ones that were aligned on the UK side. So they really wanted those three to be the tribunal but then the other side who has the bigger numbers like well we can totally just vote this off right now and they did and they chose Kaylee who then Kaylee did choose Jenny the who is on that weaker side Alliance, but then she chose Joss which is on her Alliance. So therefore I don't know if she's trying to put it still two-to-one. I think she's trying to play nice. Yeah make it look like she gives a crap but as you can see because he's right. All right. The tribunal happens. This is the biggest question of the night that I want to pose to you guys. What u.s. Girl should they have chose Ashley Anja ninja I'ma say or ninja? Yeah, I'm gonna go. Imma say nany. I realize she's the weakest one. Yes or Nami obviously since she's not on there. Well, I guess not she just lives. It's not anything against the girl, but that's who I don't like her every season because she like has she ever done anything like man, she killed that chato and the jaw she hangs out all year and their moves they say nany just wants to ride. Okay, see I can't even see that. And and it's true that I don't think Lonnie's bad, but if turbo wasn't her partner, she wouldn't have gotten as far as she did. She's clearly not a standout in these. I don't think she's bad but she's not I said Ninja just because I think story would have a chance against her if they had to put someone from their team up. Yeah, but I agree if this was like a couple of years ago where it was just purely Real World vote versus Road Rules. As people Nani would be up there. I think but now they're bringing these grilled athletic Stope buff girls and guys, right exactly. So unfortunately Nani she does fall start to fall on the totem pole doesn't mean she's not a strong competitors. He's just not as strong as them a great right and I guess it competitive standpoint. I have to agree with you guys are right. I think it politically I would say Ashley as competitively I think known as a fair choice. But again I am I'm kind of Down with Ninja because we've seen it very well, but then we've also seen a bomb which is this is what the near you bring up an excellent point here David AKA TJ, there's four categories to make a good competitor. Actually, I'll make five and I'll do yeah, I'll do five and I added social game endurance strength like swimming and puzzles. So it depends on how much they check off of each of those. So I've seen that's why I think nany is on the MBA. Let's do this truck. So if I say ninja to you, all right, I say social game. Is that a check mark No, I don't think she has a good social write endurance. She's hot guy. She's not good right Lions string. I think that Ninja can be strong swimming endurance, you know, didn't you do did she do poorly with the swimming? Right? Yeah, and then puzzles not good at so maybe literally giving her she got a half out of five. It's not that great. But then I do not any social I think nany has it pretty good. So it's better than nothing more. I think yeah. She's on the loose. Fact it Pam. Yeah, her Leroy won't even stick up for that's what I'm saying team endurance strength and swimming and puzzles and she doesn't have any like not one that stands out is my point we about nany and then I say, well we don't have to all agree for it. If I said Cara though, if I say Koko, I'm sorry. Sorry, but this is that's exactly it Zak now in Jordan are acting like these people are such bullies. I thought we were going to vote as a team and put the weakest person in and it's like, oh shut up. You don't want to put again. Tori was a bonehead move and obviously game they're pissed at that was a move but don't pretend Zach and Jordan that you just want to put the weakest players in or you would vote in nany. Right? Well, that's not he's clearly. Well, that's the end. That's what I don't mind. I guess paulien theory was like look, I know it's or he's the strongest but she doesn't she's not on my side. So these these said it, you know, at least he said that at least he admitted that she is he literally said she's the strongest girl, which is interesting because cars his girlfriend, but that's a whole nother story. So maybe I maybe he meant Who cares but Tory's great, you know, she's a she's no I just think if we did that if we do the five check marks for each girl. I just think that Nani was gonna is going to come out a little below a ninja and then I just I think Tory hits on a lot of those so that's why we thought it was weird that they wanted her on that ranking. I think nany if we're doing that ranking, I think nany would score the lowest of all the girls on the US team. Yeah. I did that. That's why I said her first. Yeah, but you said Ninja originally but you were thinking more thinking to go against if I was Tory. Who would I want to go against here? Your I'll give you your choices One Last Time Tory. Cam. Ninja Cara Nani Ashley. Those are the six girls left on the weakest. I say it's not me I agree. But anyways, alright, so that's great. Tell us the live chat, which it's okay. Well here here. Yeah. Yeah, so we get a bunch of talking after the tribunal was any of it memorable to you guys any of the talking before we go into the elimination. I mean, it's one thing is it's the Kaylee Cara. Decision to throw in Georgia. That's the they talked about it before we go to the elimination sneaky. Let me say one more thing on the weakest girl. A lot of people think that Ashley super strong. I don't know what she's good at puzzles. I also think she lucked into a lot of it. I thought Hunter carried her a lot. And I also here's my thing about why I think that she's a weaker player is I literally can't trust her. So say it comes down to that money thing again. I want to go with a Tory or even a camp because I don't think they're going to steal the money from me. So that's what I want too. That's I wouldn't mind getting rid of Ashley. So that's why I consider we because who said it was at Leroy that said because he was trying to stick up for nany in the tribunal. He was like, it's not just about who's the strongest but who can I trust her who's gonna be there for me Nani would be there for Leroy Theory Ashley know in a second. So that's why I'd like to put Ashley on that lower totem pole of I agree because I don't trust the girl. All right. So chaotic a leak our plan Super Evil super interesting car and Pauly are running. The show and everyone was like, oh, they're not they're not they're running it. They're running the UK side writer goes. Hey, Kaylee, you know you and Camera best friends. So just throw Georgia in well, you'll get rich why I understand the numbers wise, but you're getting rid of a player on your team - that's what I do. Now, you know, I mean, that's the whole thing. Anyways, he doesn't like Georgia. That's not how he why car knows this exactly car goes for hitting. It was just I love Kaylee and that's why I'm so bummed that she made this decision. It was just it was an awful stupid like my thing is I'm so frustrated with Kaylee because I feel like she has skated under the radar this whole darn see has she had anything for us Trace me because I don't feel that she should still be there like she needs to go home or get in that damn elimination, you know Proving Ground and then prove it because she just skated by is Kaylee the girl version of Jos right now problem now is performed. He's performed a little bit. This is being storyline. Let me show her every other three episodes the last season she was on she she was a big goal, of course huge. This season's not has not been a great season for a storyline wise this though move against a what we will I have to respect the gameplay and we said this during the viewing and yes Kaylee has Kaylee didn't want to get her hair wet in this elimination today. Yeah, that's funny. Either through this whole thing, but is she a genius or a dum-dum? I think probably that smart. Why get your hands dirty if you don't have to all right? Why not alone? You said to us you remember what you said to me work smarter not harder a nice everybody down smarter harder, like know I agreed to play you can outwit people and be two moves ahead and it was so funny watching her try and explain it to Joss who couldn't wrap his little brain around it for real. No, he was like, why would we put Georgia in and I mean, I love Georgia, so I didn't I thought that was a dirty move, but I also liked it because it was some some ballsy stuff going on and I want to see I'm very curious about what's going to happen at the end because right now it's like is everybody just gonna turn coat and turncoat until they have the teams they want like what is the what's going to happen? I mean, it's play Devil's Advocate. Here's the thing. I hated the move of that. It was not smart. I didn't want to do it but on the other side at the same time for their team its gene. It actually really is smart. Very smart. It was something that obviously no one saw coming and it's a way for Polly them to stay ahead to stay Sharp. Which is crazy genius in that respect. Yes. Let's get to The Proving Ground. Okay, because this is great Tori Big Boss deal. Apparently, she hasn't name given to her by Jordan is down there and now Jenny Kaylee and Josh have to make their decisions Jenny. First we know that she's not going to pick someone on their shit even know what's happening even know that whole Side Story happened. We're going to go against a see a burned vote dude. Yeah, so she went Ashley which is what she was going to do because Jenny's has only two other people with her Theo and Georgia on her team and UK. And then Kaylee does the big move goes Georgia and then Joss AKA wet lettuce. Oh, So before he says her name though after Kaylee says Georgia. How quick does Georgia run up the theatrics? No, you can't just didn't bother get mad at Kaylee At first. She knows she has to go to turn Jazz vote and now a smart. Yeah, I wouldn't wait exact same thing try and she knows that Jaws is probably very she news team. That he's very easy to turn. You know, you did it, but I would have done the exact same thing. But here's a how does it make sense to get rid of your strongest girl knowing to you're going to you're going to potentially get the other strongest girl on the other team come to you to constantly be double that to light. You would be so much more powerful at the end of the day to pulling that move for your opposite team and you guys are still a team going against each other. Why would you want to help you? They're not teams? But right now they are not though, but technically they are so what they made everybody tonight declared out in the open their Alliance right grab but I mean, but I mean as far as the rules really break down its us residents and this is this her this is my car and Polly bother me so much as they would like. So if we get rid of well Wes and bananas. Our teams can be so United you guys are so in love, even you're gonna you're gonna keep finding people you hate stop it. That's true tilt. Gordon imploding hated him before this don't think they would have done this if all that didn't go down into road and get sent home. I don't think they would have done this that's ears. That's hearsay though. This is that smell here's the thing. Here's really what happened. You lost turbo which is one of your best players. Thank you Ashley. You just gave away Tory which is our 28 players strongest players literally just gave him away because of Here's the only thing I'm trying to think here is that they didn't they really didn't think that Tori was going to be the first there's no one it turned coated yet. So I they're like, oh Tories and new video dude, but I wish they had really like I wanted them to disbelieve her more because in theory if they put her against the weakest u.s. Player, they could think of that she might do well against like it Ashley then if she beats Ashley and she comes to their side they keep Georgia and like you said David they gain Tory's. Yeah, we might have a Fighting Chance. On top of that, you know Jordans gonna follow that something you would gain Jordan on top of them and yet they still are gonna games but I mean you lost Georgia in the process as I said before Kaylee didn't care about any of that stuff. She just wanted Georgia gone because she didn't like Georgia, which is not smart thinking right exactly. You guys are still thinking you guys are so two episodes ago and you're thinking that it's like we can make this work as a team. It's over like its On it's over. They aren't teams anymore. The team is di ke lie, Cara Paul everybody across your name. Everybody knows everyone's fighting for openly at this point and to pretend otherwise as it's just there's no point. So I believe my conspiracies are rubbing off on you guys because David noticed the conspiracy that happened right before the elimination started David. Do you want to say the conspiracy about Joss? Well as we've been noticing there are Hefty. Detective work Dan. Yeah, you know every episode The Producers are trying to push more and more than Josh has some kind of Jos some kind of storyline. How can I how can I he got to vote last? Yes as a suspense builds like orchestrated around Josh, but he doesn't have to do anything. Much storyline. I think they wanted him the producers wanted him to go last is because they knew what Jenny was going to do than your hands is that was up in the air for him anymore. That's not the fun way to make up conspiracies to get the live chat go and get the viewer more viewers it get people talking to say that if I win the million dollars, I will donate it to Joss has personality fun. We love Jackie know what he doesn't have the personality Josh you got enough going on. Oh, I'm just kidding me. I don't mean to objectify her but he's good. He's sweet. He's cute. It's like, you know a nice guy like them to be dramatic love that. Let's move it along real quick here to the actual game or the elimination which is called Blockbuster, which I mentioned in the opening. I thought they were going to talk about VHS tapes No One's Gonna Get that reference. They get their 390 second rounds and they gotta push these blocks back and forth. I was bored out of my mind. This it was awful. It was like Jenga but half-ass J because the blocks never came all the way. I didn't get it. I would I know yeah, like how does it work? I'm keep they're all they're all laughing. I can take it some can shift out erase and I don't think they did either. Yes, and when they were done they hopped off and they were like a guess I got sick. So if you think about it when they're up there, they can't see what the hell's wrong. I got a huge wall in front is like pushing what they meant. They have no idea if they were doing good or Not they can't really tell strategy is and let me ask you guys a question. Do you think would have been smarter to try and knock your opponent off? You know, you don't know where they're standing though. I guess you do because they push it push it in that he push it right back on them, but it was kind of hard to get that leverage. You never lot of room to step around without you might have fallen off trying to push harder on those. That's true. They're more like sliding didn't know what was going on. And but the only thing I did grasp was that strength and size probably helps with Georgia put up a good fight because I feel like Tori can cover more ground. Very very close round Georgia. It's you know, it wasn't that was good. It was a baller move. I mean I they really did succeed in a bowline deciding everyone. No one saw that coming from graduating. Forget it. They're not a team anymore. Maybe they thought well turbo just went home for that side. So it's really maybe the producers are all behind me lost. Turbo you need to get rid of one. Alright. Anyways, he was really close match seven six seven six again. It was literally that close. It could have gone either way as far as I'm concerned and it looks like it's really going to be Polly and car versus Jordan Tori those the two teams at this point in the people that trickle down below. I liked this is back to the Leroy another great thing. He said was Jordan so good. Imagine if he was cool and you wanted to hang out with right which I which was so point on and none of us are perfect. Nobody's nerfect. All right, that's what that's what they say snow buddy. All right. Yeah anyone any last thoughts before we get to this news, which is ridiculous. I can't hate on for the news. Do you guys know about in China thoughts rice wine? I thought I could so my final thoughts in conclusion. Our I'm not mad anymore. I was two I was mad that it was like you guys you're fighting against your own interests and I was upset but now I'm not I'm like fine bloody war go for it. May the strongest Prevail turncoat. One and was the first turncoat we didn't talk about that. I know that to make you we all cheered. I love it and she gave Team USA the option to have her back. She said why would she lie down again? Why would she want to go back to car? And Paula Deen was a rhetorical question keeping smart. Yeah. I just took someone out the strongest girl in their team. I just took out and I'm not quoting because I don't think George is the strongest. It's just so arbitrary. I took out a strong competitor. Want to keep sending me in I'll take you out. I'll take you out. I'll take you out tomorrow and tomorrow you want to work as a team. And like we said it's all Bs. Now. She really on team UK. She really on team u.s. Know she's on Team Jordan Tori. I mean the garbage but think of how powerful and Jenny in Tory are going to be together, dude. Oh my God can't even think about that Tory's as good as George. I mean it depends on what right? I mean just say, yeah, that's the team is not bad because they're not capable. They're bad because more communication experience. Competitors of Tori and Jenny, right they working together. That'll what he's saying Georgia and Jenny. I'm rubbing up my big George IV my full beard Georgia and Jenny could have been as good but they really didn't either. So what story gonna be able to do with her. They were allies to join that team those two there one less girl. So maybe they can form little better. But and now there's now there's like there's Vengeance now, you know what I mean, so she's changing. For you for teaching me. Don't you know what clearly were not no longer UK US go go pick your teeth Captain Captain Jordan and Pauly pick your team's I would love it. That's what you've been saying for weeks to get out speaking of duking it out. Let's go to news and gossip or some people are duking it out. Um Pam, I'm gonna bring your thing in no you twit in right now you swag. We didn't tweet it. No you twit. There's a girl from the show. Are you the one come one come all the last season of it? Her name is Amber Amber Martinez. She was so great on the show. She's a lot of fun. She's sweet girl. And she said something about Ninja on on Twitter. Now, I'm going to throw it worry you guys and I want to see if you know what it is is called brolic. You know, what a bro like is I guess it's used. On East Coast in New York and the licks goof boy guys know if that's what I would know. It's be rol. I see we're all like it's actually a workout term. It's brolic is a slang term for buff and chiseled. It's a very familiar term amongst the fitness Community brolic. I think it's used more on the east coast and he's crazy kids. So Amber wrote on Twitter because she wrote that Natalie looks really brolic and she meant it. As a compliment like she looked jacked up. She look good and Natalie ninja rights back to a tambe. One-to-one. Oh don't know where this came from We're you know, we're de Mogi like man like with a with a with a monocle, but can't wait to forward this to your staff Staffing at your work bet you didn't know I was at dinner with people who run Lowell branding which must be where Amber works. If you want to talk about this send me a message so literally ninjas writing to her saying she's going to get her fired from a job because Called her brolic. That's so stupid. Yes, thank you ninjas ridiculous. I can't hand she gets worse and worse Amber response s a ninja this is me sending you a message. I didn't tweet that to play you. It was a compliment sis and then Urban Dictionary. Yeah, I guess complimenting people isn't a thing anymore. Also said by Amber trying to hurt my pockets because you are not up to date with the word brolic also written by Amber. These are all too. Natalie and and then summer her cast members from RE the one road into some stuff and I just want to get you guys up in I thought it was absolutely ridiculous. I think the way I feel about Natalie is the same way. I feel about Josh where it's unfair and unfounded but like they just aren't even if someone man if someone wrote like man you suck on the challenge. Well, you're going to come after me at AfterBuzz TV Natalie. I didn't think you were treated D nicely. Oh, you gonna come after me AfterBuzz you give me a fire? Like what is this about that? We have a difference in opinion so lean and mean Amber complemented her. So imagine what the ninjas trying to get it us now, like what type of God and what kind of time do you have on your hands? Like I would assume she gets about a thousand likes and dislikes on Twitter a day. She's gonna go after all of their jobs. You really don't get it. I just thought it was such an interesting news and gossip. You're in the public eye. You're going to get all kinds of stuff. Right? But this is not even a bad thing. Right? And also if you see a word you don't know on the internet what before you right back to her and get mad if you looked it up and you'd say she just thought you were like, Like right like you are stronger than dictionary. It's check it out. It's just really easy to do. She was really at dinner with like whole branding. I've tried to look up all brand-new find him. I love your commitment dancer the server to getting to the top has been like, I'm sorry. I'm glad she beat Laurel because Laura Bad and mean but she like her like her hair like jumping around she is I liked her at first. I liked her last season last season. She's been hella Wicked annoying. I mean, I'm sorry not great competitor on some of the things not allowed me to not a great friend not a great competitor. That's why I said against if I were Tori and I wasn't with her last season, I would think I could take her. She I think someone said, I don't remember who isn't great in as a team. She's good at like, you know obstacle courses and stuff. But I don't know how great she is as a team member one last conspiracies. I didn't get to it last week and Samuel gesture is calling me out all over the Internet and that's great and a good way not in a mean way just like I hate it. Come on you bro. He's saying you didn't say didn't get to my conspiracy. So I'm going to get to right now Samuel real quick. This is from two episodes go with the producers wouldn't let the Brits change teams when the both Brits one after the elimination because it would make the teams and numbers much more lopsided because if the Brits went to the American side, then it would have been like Seven to thirteen and then how would they ever do a challenge the next week with 7 and 13 people? They really have to look a lot of people out so he was making a joke that the users are forced the Brits to go back to your own side, which is just a fun conspiracy and probably not real like all of our other ones like final thoughts guys anything. I you know any other the I got that's all I got for news. So the episode was all right. Really, I like you guys think this is a question. / make sure next week Jordan's gonna succeed in In winning. Yes. I hope something that's what I means. I have to yes going into an elimination and winning that and then joining Tory on the Brit. So like I said a lot of steps, but I want to see it. I've been I want to see how it happens. Yeah, I want to see it happen, but I am kind of feeling doubtful for some reason. I don't know why. Yeah, they because I'll I noticed that they like to play up what's happening and then surprise us and I think that big surprise is that he might not be able to follow through. The I'll say this I will apologize The Producers because that scene actually is starting to mean something that he had was Zach. They actually are using it and Tory really switched what really happened. It was a setup here in between. Either way. They could still work together like Jordan completely sabotage you as team now and work with Tori with the youth that's that's what he's gonna do. Exactly. So there's even if he doesn't switch like we said that even though Tory's over there. She didn't even she switched but since your release, which know she's still with Jordan, right? Yeah, so And I don't know it's still trying to think it's still the alliance's are be alliances. Whatever team they're on we were now seeing that it really doesn't matter that truce that they made has been broken and at this point the numbers are so evenly matched that it doesn't matter anymore almost the teams that you're on because now there are out and out working together exactly. So, all right. 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