Migration Miracles and a con man's name. We're getting into it next. I'm Maria Menounos and your and you're busted. Even welcome welcome welcome guys, here is the after show for messiah on Netflix recovering episode 6. We will not all sleep. Well, that's my life right now. So I don't know what they're doing. We're talking the migration into the unknown jabril steps into leadership. And of course Alma sighs real identity you guys that is my jam the real identity. We're also talking our special segment W Wy D and of course Our news and gossip. But first, my name is Tatiana maresa. Hello everybody, and I'm joined by my lovely co-host who knows all things Messiah and Netflix dare. I say, oh, yes, ebony Chapman having a Chapman's. Yes. Hello. How you doing? Good. How are you? I'm good. I'm good. Busy day. Yeah. Yeah definitely busy when we can just you know, chill out talk about homicide. Yeah. Okay. Everybody wants to talk about it. So, you know episode episode 6. I feel like we're really getting into it. Yes, but I'm so excited started off slow. And now I feel like it's just every episode is like in your face. Yes. I love it. This is this is the type of content on into me to needed action-packed beginning to end. Yes. That's why we're here to talk about the show. What were your overall thoughts of episode 7, excuse me episode 6 will not Asleep, I thought it was first of all, there was just like so many things going on. We know so many more facts and I'm so excited about it the whole thing answered. Well more questions appeared but more questions answered and that's why I'm like, yes finally has all the things that we've been asking for the past five episodes have finally been answered. So I'm like, yes, yes. Yes, like I was into it the whole time. I was like, no they did not just right up. And right. Yeah, and it makes her crazy in case you guys don't know if you're just joining us. We have like a little team thing going on right now. So I am team skeptic. Okay and team believer hashtag team believer. That's tag-team skeptic. Okay. So just if you just in case we have like an ongoing debate about this and we're keeping score, right? Okay. So who's winning me? Okay, well because of last episode I have winning and I think because of this episode I'm going to be I still win. I'm gonna be stuck my thumb just so you know, my point is being proved team skeptic has tag team. You have there what you call mediaeval. Is that even though he's not evil. Okay? Okay, let's talk about the the migration into the unknown. So this is basically a Maasai giving Felix complete control of where to go which I think was really really interesting and at the same time I'm like because he has no plan in he has no idea. He's like Felix you should talk to God and ask him where to go because you know, I'm like Felix is like I don't I don't know. I don't know I do but the fact that Felix actually took it into his own hands to be like, okay. Yeah, I mean told me that this is what we're doing. He's like convincing his wife. He's totally convinced that he's in his life for a reason and like packs up his things. And like gets in the car and tells everyone to follow and there's a that is the longest Caravan. I think I've ever seen in my entire life. Like it was like all the way back in time. It was like all the way. Yeah hot the way cost X there are so many people who have gathered in dili Texas just to be a part of this man's life. So great. The fact that he is has all these people follow him. I feel like it gives them a real sense of Pride and Leadership. Like that's something that he's always wanted and now Alma side is kind of giving him the chance to do it, but he still doesn't know he still doesn't know where he's going so much so that he doesn't trust himself like, you know, when they're at that intersection and due to which right? Yeah, he's looking at which way to go and he looks in his rearview mirror down beside and he's like this and he looks at him and he's like this. All right, it is like Of course, of course, I mean at the end of the day, I don't even think I'll Maasai knows what's going on. Yeah, so that's really the key right there. And I think something you said last the last episode you really were you were like dead on when you said that a Felix is doing things like more for himself. Oh mmm, right and I think this episode shows that even more like because you know, they were driving looks the billboard of his of his Father-in-law and it seems like he's kind of in competition with his father-in-law. So now he's like look, I'm going to lead all these people and I have a Maasai in the backseat. He needs to like prove a point. Yeah. I mean his father-in-law basically challenged him and was like, right. What are you doing, sir? Get it together get it together, you know trying he's trying to get it together is trying to prove that. He is the man of the household. Yeah and the congregation of this Caravan of people, right, right. So it's really interesting because they do end up in DC of course, which I thought was really interesting because they did mention like, you know the March on Washington like that was like the headline on the news and I was like, oh, it doesn't understand that like we're pulling and like historical events into this. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Yeah because you could have been anywhere else but you decided to go to DC. Of course, you know, I mean where else would he go? He's been he's kind of hit like The prominent areas, you know what I mean? Ideally tell your take that back Billy Texas is not a prominent area. Is that back? Never mind, just DC just to see his theory. I guess and Israel. Like those are the three. I'm really big ones, but he arrives in DC and he says this speech like he just he walks so sure of himself what he's doing even though I think you're right. He has no plan of what he's doing, but he walks to do see and our he walks to to the state building and he says if you have come to receive you will go away poor if you have Here to understand you will leave here lost for those who have understood for those who have received. It is time returning to your scripture will not save you bending to your knees will not please anyone that time has passed this time is now you are judged and you are chosen and I'm here to break the mirror so you can see what's on the other side. Wow, first of all is like what right break it down. I don't know. I don't understand. Basically. I think he's giving people a choice either believe me or don't if you're going to try to sit here and question me anymore. Then too bad. You're dead not dead, but you're not going to be a believer if you're not a Believer by now, and then he walks on water. Well walking on water. So did you did that? Is that a point? You know, what's so funny though? Because I was like, he was saying a whole lot of something. Yeah and a whole lot of nothing. Yeah at the same time. Yeah. I was just like what is this man talking about like he is giving a speech saying things that sound like they are meaningful right and but at the same time I was really trying to think like But I don't really what art what exactly are you saying? If you're looking for clarity, you didn't come to the right spot. He's saying you should already have Clarity by his booking more confusing. I think he's saying if you don't have Clarity is too late to look for answers because I'm here and I'm the answer. So so you either believe me or you don't my problem is what is the answer though? Like it sir? Like you think it's not like you went. I don't know. It wasn't like he he He's even been in DC before. I don't know I guess maybe because he's been on the news so he's like if I'm the real one, you should know now. Yeah, I think that's what he's thinking or saying or giving. I think he's I think at the end of the day it turns down to he's giving people an ultimatum. I think like me or don't like me. Yeah love me or leave me and then and then there's this whole like I'm here to break the mirror so you can see on what side you stand. I don't know. I'm so excited these days. I really think that I don't even think he knew what he was talking about. He didn't I don't think he said anything very sort of interaction. So is this is this something that could be a point for team? Skeptic it is it's yes. Yes. Yeah for sure. That's what's going on with that speaking of Skeptics. There are a lot of Skeptics here at AfterBuzz TV who review a lot of shows? Shows and kind of figure this muddy water out. 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I was wondering that he was telling him to go like kill. I don't know kill somebody. I don't know. I don't know. I think these are the two most prominent people in his life and that's why he keeps having visions, but he's basically With death like he is he hasn't healthy hydrated. Yeah, no food. No water. He's been beaten, you know within an inch of his life. He's probably has some something broken in his body like he hasn't gotten up and I don't know how long nobody is caring for him anymore like this man he's gonna die, but instead he strips naked. And basically walks walks across the border which I was like besi wasn't that interesting? Sorry. I got on my wasn't that interesting because I was like, what is this connection? You have a messiah be here walking on the water in DC. And then you have this man at the same time naked walking in the desert. So for a second, I thought like what is what is this for a second? I thought that jabril could see Alice. I in DC like I thought he was standing up because he See him that wasn't the case, but that was my first initial. Okay. Well that wasn't what happened. But that's what I thought but I don't know. I think it was just I think they were supposed to show that maybe they have some kind of connection. Obviously. There's a relationship there that's been been like building slowly but surely for the short time that they were together, but I think that he's so like dedicated to almost die that he you know, that's why he's seize him and his hallucinations and which even further backs his like faith in him. I could see that I could definitely see that but I was I was just really trying to figure out what that like weird connection was there because it was like almost like two people at the same time doing the same thing but was like, all right, because you know, we did figure out that whole Archangel thing. Yeah, I'm no and if he is the Messiah, you know, like maybe there is this like deep rooted connection. So it was like maybe is it a point for team believer out there? Okay. Okay. Here's what? The here okay, do I don't get a point maybe no, I can't give you that point because because okay. How about we both killed because I don't want a Pity Point. That's okay because you have to if a Masai is the second coming if he is the Messiah then yeah sure to Broken be like the Archangel. Okay, that's short. But if Alma PSI is somewhat of like an antichrist character then that means jabril is the Which means he could fight our Antichrist character you like the lead angel that jabril is actually the chosen one. I think I don't think he's the chosen one. But I think he has I think he has a really important character in the story and I think at the end I think there's going to be not necessarily a standoff but I think that's going to split so people are going to go with Alma sigh and some people are going to go with your grill because now jabril, Followers after he did that. I mean everyone's kind of feeling like he like some people hate him because of Alma side, but then this old man at the end was urging him to think for himself as opposed to just following after almost I write and I think it was interesting because you almost see him like kind of like he's getting threatened really with his life with like the soldiers at the border, but then he doesn't they don't shoot him. I mean what? Are they going to do with the naked guy like starving like Fievel walking to I wouldn't even put my gun on, you know, they saw something in him that made them almost in disbelief. So I don't know but it created writing everywhere right everywhere. So that's you know all because of Alma sighs which of course. You know Alma sighs real name is now revealed. Uh, okay Purim go Sherry Pi M Pi. Mmm pie. Mmm pie. Mm-hmm. I am girl Sherry. Yes. Okay is his real name? And he has a brother. He has a brother in Tehran and went to University. Yes in Massachusetts guys. We had a yearbook photo. He was taught by Oscar Wallace. So he was actually a student of off. Oscar Wallace has in Massachusetts, right and you know Ava was going so far just to say that he could be his Protege and I know he's kind of like a terrorist. Yeah, like going going so far, you know, is that do you think that's too far of a reach how she's reaching the fact that they were in the same place at the same time could mean a whole lot or it couldn't mean Jack shiznit. I mean very true, but I guess the connection here is the fact that I was quoting Oscar Wallace. So I think that was that was like The Smoking Gun right there, right and I do terrorists. I mean, I wouldn't call him a terrorist. I think that's like really pushing. It's right. But I mean I could understand why she thinks he's such a threat and right so because he's creating all this chaos. I just see the Joker. It's the cat the Joker from the comics played out like, you know, The Joker has nothing to do with the Messiah but this character Alma side. This character outside really does like the Joker rules and I'm a very big DC Comic fan. So, you know the Joker rules and chaos and Anarchy and that's how he thrives and how he gets his way and all that kind of stuff and I feel like Alma sighs the same you just not as crazy right but it's that same distraction. Yeah. It's that so this is a market is my question here, right? It's like what exactly are you distracting us from? Like if you are creating this chaos, you have people flying to Delhi, Texas driving bringing. Their daughters that are sick to come see you and news frenzy as wild and you have the reporters fault that you have all this craziness going on. If you're supposed to be distracting us, what are you distracting us from? I'm concerned now may be hesitant. Maybe he's a psychopath and hates also ization. I don't know what like, I don't know right? Look what I don't know. Look what is the point of creating the chaos or like are you trying to like get everyone's attention over here? And then Oscar Wallace is over here doing something else while door like coming. He could be wanting I don't know. I feel like there's many reasons. He could be wanting power, right? Obviously. This is given him so much power. He hasn't it. Yeah, isn't it to pay for anything? You know, he's being taken all these places people are feeding him worshiping him, you know, like who I feel like a lot of people would be attracted to that, you know. But then you have to prove yourself at some point. I mean you guess he did right he walked on water you want that he killed the dog in the last episode right? We could have saved the dog. That doesn't make the person he saved a little boy. Yeah. Hmm. I don't know guys see I am a believer. We have a point. So what is it two against one? What are we at? Right? I don't know. I left my notebook at home. I will get back to you guys. I'm gonna go ahead and I will show you guys a Post-It. So getting into our special segment W Wy D. Okay, here we go. Here's the saying. Are you ready? You had a change of heart? and decided to travel with your family to see this man who is saving lives and bringing Miracles and hope to people around the world you arrive in Washington DC with a crowd of people to hear what this miraculous man has to say he opens his mouth to speak but you cannot quite understand what he is saying for in your mind is a rush of excitement and adrenaline to see What happens next? He takes one last look at the crowd and his eyes connect with yours you share a short gaze and he turned looking out over the water. He steps down and begins walking across the water. What would you do? That is such a good question. What would I do you have this man talking preaching? Sounds like some good some good ish. Sounds good. I mean, I'm trying to tell you I'm kind of convinced, you know makes eye contact with me and then continues to walk on water. Hmm, I mean Imma, take my phone out. What else you supposed to do? I'm gonna take my phone out. Okay. All right expecting that. All right, what would you do? It's and take my phone out was like way back wasn't the first thing that's gonna do. I would I would probably watch I watch the whole thing and I turn around and walk away because you think it was like a magic trick. Yeah, because knowing what I know if it was the same situation and I had all this backstory my mind of this dude. I don't believe he's anything I would turn around and walk away. Mhm. I'd be like, wow, that's cool. Mmm-hmm. But I mean the things the only thing that you know, is that he saved the boy. Hmm, and he's walking. On water and he was preaching. Hmm. Yes. So I mean that sounds like some good stuff right there sounds like good stuff, but there's but there's certain things. I feel I would think that don't add up skeptic deep skeptic. Okay, so you're just no I wouldn't be there. I would not watch not gonna lie. Like, of course, I would be interested. Of course, I would be curious and I would stay and watch him walk across the water and then be like, wow, okay. Mmm think about that me He looked back, right? Yeah, and you know that this is what I was thinking when he looked back the story of Jesus when he walked on water. Yeah, and then he had Peter come out and yep walk on water with him. He said do not look down right and soon as he looked down he sank. So the literally I was thinking like you look back you're going down. I don't know. I was just thinking like you're gonna say what are you doing? Literally what I was thinking? Yeah. Yeah, that's good. One of the first things I thought when I watched it good times good always have your phone with you bottom line, but you just never know if you don't take the picture didn't happen, right? Okay, exactly exactly going into our news and gossip. This is good guys. So we all know that Messiah is on Netflix and Netflix is coming. Excuse me, an article pull that was put out by Paul Tassie of Orbs, has been watching the debate between Disney plus and Netflix closely. And this was just really there's been a lot of debate about the various aspects of Disney plus and Netflix namely is Disney plus stretching out its content over a rather sparse first year to justify continuing subscriptions and is Netflix and contrast wasting the potential of its biggest shows by dumping them all in one weekend. Well, this one's for the US of course and we're going to look at this graph the red line you might guess is the Mandalorian. In and while the blue line is The Witcher and these were the two top shows that were released on both now if they were released at the same time, it's actually The Witcher that is the most popular and of course Netflix Netflix has the advantage because it's been around for years and has almost a hundred and sixty million subscribers globally, right? It's a crazy ton and Disney plus just debuted this past fall and has far far far less. That even with an attractive price. So that's a lot of difference there. But the overall the short of it seems to be that the Mandalorian is scored Higher by critics and audiences and the witcher's more widely watched especially on a global scale. So people are kind of thinking that you know, obviously Netflix is is more of a go-getter than Disney plus but I think that there needs to be some more time for Disney plus two kind of totally put out more content and reach a global scale. But right now the fight between them Netflix is winning a hundred percent on at the end of the day Disney plus did just come out and a lot of the stuff that is on Disney plus is from Disney Channel. So it's like I mean if that is static, right that audience is only so big and so so true Netflix has a wide variety of options and shows and things to pique your interest. I think they were hoping that the Mandalorian would carry them, you know like up here. I think they were hoping that that's the show that would get them all of the subscribers. Is that they would need I have, you know seen the parallel for the Mandalorian and so clearly you're not doing your job. I don't know. I haven't seen it. I don't know. I haven't seen it's okay. They'll probably why nobody watched it a lot of people hit me up for like you have Disney plaster you have kids. I know you have Disney plus. Can I can I I was like, no guys no, no mmmm - just a trial, so I can't do it. Just two seven three days. Thank you. I'm cutting it off crazy. Well, thank you so much guys. I hope we covered everything that you wanted to hear. We try to pack everything into the time that were allotted and so I know there's probably some things that we missed if we did let us know what they are so we can continue the conversation because we all love to do that before we go. Where can we stock you have been a okay. I'm very excited about this guy's because I figured out how to change my name on Twitter. So they both match now and Um Twitter, so Stephanie Chapman 12 nice and I of course am Tatiana maresa at Tachi on Reefs on all social media platforms. So, please follow me see what we're doing. We are here all the time. So, you know, this is where we are. 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Al-Mesih gives Felix the control to take the masses of people where he feels called. Even though, Felix has no idea where he will be going, he tries to prove to himself and his family that he is capable of leading a large congregation. By accident, the choice becomes to migrate to DC. Upon arrival, all follow Al-Mesih to the capital building where he gives a short word and walks across the water, leaving many to believe he is the miraculous second coming. Jibril, still stranded at the border, starved and dehydrated, begins to flirt with death and see hallucinations of Al-Masih and his mother raising from the dead. In a haze, he strips naked and walks toward a guard who has his gun raised towards him. He presses his chest upon the gun, only to challenge the guard in his exhaustion. The guard lets Jibril pass, as others stand behind him, now looking to him as a new leader. A part of Al-Mesih's past is revealed, including his name and his brother who lives in Tehran. Today's After Show Was Hosted By: Tatiana Mariesa @TatianaMariesa and Ebone Chatman @EboneChatman12Follow us on http://www.Twitter.com/AfterBuzzTV  "Like" Us on http://www.Facebook.com/AfterBuzzTV For more After Shows for your favorite TV shows and the latest news in TV, Film, and exclusive celebrity interviews, visit http://www.AfterBuzzTV.com 