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Somebody's been reading Dante's Inferno the AfterBuzz after show starts right now. You're tuned in to AfterBuzz TV the ESPN of TB top now look, I didn't even know was possible for some of the things that happen on Lucifer this episode to happen. So you loved it hard. I love it. Yeah, I'm happy me too. It's just a great show. I just like the show so much it combines shows that I love. It's part long Order SVU is part Sabrina part Survivor now is parts of niver. It's got so much probably the best. Version of Survivor, we possibly oh my God. So cool the Teflon totem. Hey, you don't know about that Teflon told him, you know, I have it. I found it under a tree. Oh, really? Yeah. Don't murder me over at first you think before you realize who we are Myrtle murdering allow me to introduce the wonderful panel that is amongst us. We have my favorite W be in the building Stephen Lemieux Warner Brothers. Yeah something like yeah. It is a DC property. So yes were you thinking I'm so happy to be on this panel. And the queen of the brains Roxy stryer is in the building nicest thing anybody ever said about me hashtag saved Lucifer. I'm here for good guys. You are you are for good or for evil because we don't know which one Lucifer is yet bomb transition host. I'm to run if you don't know me you haven't been watching AfterBuzz or this Lucifer show or reading your hat. Yeah, it's all it's all I haven't liked the shirt. It's on every article. I want to take a moment to say to you guys. As on iTunes if that didn't make sense it legitimately is a hat that he wears and also he's in a bathrobe but I want you guys all to see that picture. You have to pick up the Raanana picture that picture that as we talk all things Netflix is Lucifer season 4 episode 2. Somebody's been reading Dante's Inferno. Today's break down really quickly. We will start with the case, of course the smallest part but big in our hearts and then we get to the heart of the show what the case is really about we're going to talk about who is Father Kelly. Who is that guy? He really freaks me out. We learned the Chloe. And she's been up to some no-good. You've been up to no good Chloe. What's in the vial Lucifer? Ask Chloe on a date or vice versa the date kind of happens, but kind of doesn't but kind of does a minute deal chooses to stay in La Linda's pregnant. Yeah, I had to leave that right there for you. Chloe learns the truth about Lucifer again Father Kelly gets his own Date With the Devil news and gossip special segment circle of hell and more. You know, what they call that after you said Linda's pregnant and then waited a second a pregnant pause. Is that what it is? Good. I worked really hard on that. That's no but you are the queen of the brain. So let's get your overall thoughts on the episode. I don't know a pregnant pause got it. You call that a call back, but and he tags too quick of a call back and head was bowed. I didn't do my what that pisode one call back behind. You know, what I liked this episode of a heck of a lot more than I like this panel right now. I thought it was awesome. I thought it was even better than episode 1 I think that episode one. They had to do a little more recapping for the people who didn't watch Lucifer on Fox and in episode 2. We got to dive into the characters and again, Really was about Lucifer and Khloe in those are my favorite episodes because I just I'm a sucker for wanting these two to be together all I want it so bad. So I love this episode Lucifer was like cringe-worthy this episode like no it was a great episode. I love it. But he's in a character what character was so cringe-worthy. It's like the daytime is it is it time for the date? Hey, he's like The Thirst was real with Lucifer today. He's in love in love. I actually really like this Lucifer because showing Server can be vulnerable showing that he breaks down his wall and is transparent. He's always honest but the transparency of not having a wall at all and saying hey, I'm vulnerable and understanding it and feeling it and him being awkward. He's the devil and he's like nervous to ask a girl out on a date. It's so cute for lack of better words. He's just a little palm like all you just want to all lose for it's okay. I know she's really hot. Don't be nervous, but he really should be nice. That actually made me hate it too. But actually yeah that I made it where you made it I could do that. But I'm Queen of the brain you are the queen the Braves your father could not of the heart but we agree that this is a great opposite. Yeah, you know, yeah great to jump right back into Lucifer the case was like just as completely predictable as before though. I was super excited though because well, we're watching the case and you know, they're interviewing people and all of these characters are coming in and talking about it. All of a sudden. I was like Hey that chicks a my Groundlings class. Well, that's so Funny because actually the murderer is my really good friend Cameron. Really? Yes, Cameron gauri played Tikka the cameraman and it was great to did you know that that was happening. I had no idea he piped out told me about so many of his roles. Some of them I could care less about and this one that is my favorite of favorites. He never mentioned to me when you gotta talk to him and see how it was shooting with the crust. We need to know I'm up get on that. Let's talk about the case really quick. So the case the victim a fan favorite kindergartner teacher ER Melinda Hagee on the hit reality show with failing ratings, of course the cabin body found at the Lagoon cause of death is drowning, but we also have signs of struggle on the beach and a huge contusion on the back of the head suspicion and even arrest was made of course in Kylie The Rocker murder Tika the cameraman. Yeah, that guy was suspicious as soon as I saw him pick up that battery and walk away. I was like, oh he killed it with the battery. There's somewhat, you know how people who kind of always live in that? Grenn, they always have that little grin on he had a grin and I just want why you smiling bro. What is that wipe that grin off your face? It's interesting because I had no idea who the killer was. Okay. So so I'm glad that both of you are the brain and Pinky over there. But over here are five over here. I was actually in I'm in this mode now that I realized that the first person they meet on the scene is the killer always it's going to be a theme and that kind of played. Ooh season 2 it was a little bit missing in season 3 but now it's back. Yeah, and I thought that this one was an exciting switch up because usually when we go through these cases maybe we talked to one two, three possibly four people talk to all of them. We talked to all the people and they all had funny things to say. I wanted to watch an episode of the show quickly which one of us would actually win this competition every day three. Yeah. I have the Teflon total know I would I can't give her laugh. Okay, so I think it's me, we all think it's ours. Of Jeff you are clearly the tiebreaker Jeff who's running who wins the cabin. He was no idea what leave me so I don't know. We do meet a lot of the characters from the show. We met Maureen. Oh Vic the executive producer. We've had like Maury Povich by the way. It did. It did actually I was wondering if that was a play on that were kinda hope so job The Jock that was the first guy the muscle guy who or what the Rock above her head and made the faces. I love the commentary on how Formulaic These reality shows, huh? Because like everyone just fits into that role perfectly. This wasn't was like Hunger Games. This one was Next Level reality was Survivor. No, it was more than that. I felt like what was in his stomach? Well aside from snails, which is normal for These reality shows. I'm surviving or not murdering people how you're not supposed to murder people on the show, you know that the cabins like supposed to man to murder people. I'm sure that in a lot of These reality shows they get close. To altercations or and or at least thoughts of murder. Has anyone been killed on a set of reality show like not like just died but like been murdered because this is a pretty common like theme and in shows like this where somebody I think it's because of the plot device that's just so easy to use. I mean it worked perfectly in this because it gives you a ton of different option for who could have done it, but they're also crazy characters. You've got your archetypes a jock the bitchy girl all those things. So I think that they just I don't know if it's yeah, we got happy out the jock Joe the farmer Eileen the ex-marine Jasmine the model Grayson the lawyer who everyone blamed for everything and I don't want to say maybe it's because he's just black and of course I wrote the hippie. Yeah. I I love these characters I kind of was like, this is why it is a bummer that this show is a procedural because I kind of want these people back for a couple of episodes. I wanted to get to know each one of them. Well, we have the tie back with Ellie being a big fan of the show. So we could bring them back in terms of like if she kept in touch. I kept in touch with one of the cast members from the cabin and they said somebody died so we could technically bring him back. Yeah, actually truth. All right. She she geeked out when they showed up on the side that's 50 hours of footage a hundred a hundred dollars. It makes it even workers hundred up back up back up Sunday. So I watched all twenty seven seasons twenty seven seasons has been on there. That's like I haven't soda watching all a hundred of our after shows every single. A week Ivan, Ivan Ivan Ivan. So every episode the show has a back drop the case is just a backdrop to what's really going on in the show. And in this one we get the constant almost Clash of Love versus deception between Chloe and Lucifer. I always need you to break this down for me Tehran. I need you to interpret them. Lay it out for me. Like for dummies. They talk about it on the show. They always interweave. They use it as the analogy and here we have someone who's in love. We find the dynamic between Kylie and Melinda. That's the close proximity and it comes up in the show. I was Lucifer and Chloe. Well, that's I mean, that's the projection. Right? So the the the the allegory that I believe they were making with the case. This week is the same kind of comparison that father Kenley is drawing with Lucifer comparing to Chloe when he he says that Lucifer's lying. It's the biggest lie of all and Chloe's wondering is Lucifer this person. I know or is Lucifer the the demon that's written about in the Bible and then we have ulation and the reality shows the same way in that. You know, you have the jock who's one way one second because the villain always wins, but then he's another way the next second everyone's playing everyone, but he said the cameras were on and he had to act the part Stephen I get it. So it's just it's Lucifer surrounded by people who can't be Selves. Yeah, I think that's a good analogy to there's all different things peppered in there. And I think that's one really worked for the stuff with Chloe and Lucifer and the deception going on there that we're going to talk about. Yeah, we have to get into and especially with Kylie being arrested and causing the explosion as Lucifer walks out. I mean you see Chloe Teeter back and forth. So let's get into that Chloe what's going on in Chloe's head Roxy these the timeline of this all was slightly confusing but But I was happy too. I was happy to see where we ultimately ended up. I think she's torn I think she's really torn she knows in her in her heart and that Lucifer is good. But in her mind it is the devil and you have these people saying we need to extract the devil from Earth that makes perfect sense. If somebody said to me the devil's on Earth and we have to get rid of him. I wouldn't be like no don't please you would say. Yeah, we do. So, I think she's really torn her heart and head I mean, I think we got a big vital piece of information this episode 2 is that people have been aware that the devil's been on Earth for seven years? Yeah, which we didn't know. Yeah. We didn't know that there's a whole group of people who are out there and know about him and had potentially tried to exercise him before but through that have found out that the only person that makes him vulnerable as Chloe, but they said they only suspected that and I'm curious whether that's a lie, and they knew that to be true or whether this is a new revelation. And that's why it's just coming to fruition now so I couldn't tell I still don't know. This guy seems like a bad guy. But how bad is he father? Kenley is who were talking about and the organization is the Church of International Association of exorcists, which sounds crazy. It sounds like a demonic. Who is this father Ken Lee, let's get let's get to that I don't trust and I don't trust associations who are just vowels IA OE you just don't ya like you can't say it. I don't get it. I'm not a fan. So happy reaction with it. Yeah, it has been it has to be Shield. Yeah, AOS is like ages of She lyric Heroes house. You're good hit up a house, but I do know this one is CR I can't do it. I can't do it. See I have got to be villain something. I it is so funny what our pet peeves of people like that would not have ever crossed my mind. What cross my mind about this is where is this guy coming from? What is his backstory? And by the The time and again not to jump ahead too much. But by the time he shows up at Lucifer's doorstep the the ark just episode two alone. I'm just thinking who are you a hundred percent? It seems that this Arc went so fast boom and it's getting to ahead some type of explosion Father Kelly is obviously someone who we feel like the Vatican is trusted and we've seen this character and movies before but he's always really super duper evil and played by that. Real guy it's always him. I think this is going to be a situation that is an unintentional cause of terrible things happening. So like for instance father Kinley talks to Chloe and basically is like this is what Lucifer does it's the biggest lie of all he adjusts to make people happy. He is the devil. Yeah, but bear with me he only cares about himself he works to get what he wants and every single thing that he's describing is just a human being so like the more Lucifer tries to become human the more he fits into these labels that the church puts on the devil, which why is he so certain that all Lucifer does is lie. He's the devil right? But what does he have in to I know that Lucifer didn't seem to recognize him, but does he know Lucifer from other things or from stories? So here's what they have. Right? So all of the research of this National Association of Exorcist, I'm putting an n on it so I can actually say it all of their research. They have an entire history of every single time Lucifer. Came to the world. It didn't seem like some haphazard like let's do but look, let's create a cookbook. It felt like this is a long-standing organization. But if they've been tracking him for the past seven years then haven't they seen all of the amazing things? He's done. Well, what's he really done? That's amazing. He opened up Luxe that's pretty amazing saved a lot of lives. Oh, yeah. Yeah that team. Yeah, but again also a dope nightclub dope nightclub. That's number one. That's a real thing as a lot of happiness for people. Hey, it's Satan. He saved five people. All right, but he's Satan, you know, like that's kind of the mindset does it does play where once again we have to look at the storyline from whose perspective it's being told if you ask God Satan's Satan's the devil if you ask Satan God the devil, it is true in the only thing I can kind of liken it to and this is a very extreme obviously, but it's like if Hitler came back from the dead somehow it was on Earth and had saved a few people we wouldn't be like, yeah, that's fine now bro, we can Keep you here. Everybody would be like we've got to get this mother effer gone because we knew what had happened, but with the devil, it's not history and it's not recent. It's a lot of stories. It's a lot of uncertainty history through throughout history. Yes, but not in the in the last hundred years and I feel like these people are going off of religion not based off of actual. Here's the fact is the wrong word. Here's the recent history. Here's the issue is that stories our history because the only difference between stories now and stories then is the the format of which they're told you only had books and Word of Mouth. Now you view history is like what we know this happen because we have the internet and we have documentation. The Bible was supposed to be that documentation of these things that happen. So the church has to take it at face value whether it's been skewed in any way shape or form. They had pictures of 1944 with a Tom Ellis looking Lucifer next to They had pictures of different events with a Tom Ellis looking Lucifer and Hitler and now they have unequivocal evidence of Chloe saying yes, he is Lucifer. So they have to look at this history that they have and say, okay, maybe there's some falsies but inclusive evidence provided over a series of generations is now conclusive this mean that you are on team father Kenley. No, but I'm on Team every time he appears disaster happens and that's what we are Lucifer. ER Every time he every time loser and I don't I don't think it necessarily has to be caused by Lucifer. It's like imagine you're in a glass house and you have a rock and you want to kill a roach. It's the same kind of concept the Earth's The Glass House Lucifer's the roach and the earth and the Christian church or whatever. You want to call Father. Kinley's National Association of exorcism is a brick being used to kill that road. Things are going to crack and a lot of bad stuff is going to happen. There are cases where you can say like a person who's around there just a bad luck person. And so they cause bad luck wherever they go. That's also an archetype we see but we can agree on one thing that Hitler doesn't have half Lucifer's ass. Let's get to that can we come back? That's fact. So that's the Saving Grace for Lucifer. So we learned that Khloe has really been up to where when she's gone. Right? So that missing month. Well, we find out she went on this vacation or Europe AKA Rome aka the Second most boring vacation ever drive your research. The Vatican is actually an amazing. I know take this if you ever go I have I've been yeah, very Angels and Demons hmm, literally and figuratively speaking. So Chloe went research. I don't think she spent too much time looking at the art. I just don't she was in that Library going over research and asking questions. And what was the deal was tricked because she said she took Trixie with her, but what strikes you doing? Yeah, where's Trixie the Holt? I don't know because if your if your whole point is I have to get this devil out because I have a daughter and I need to make sure I look out for her. I don't know maybe Mom a little bit while you're over there because your daughter's just off in Europe. Maybe the Vatican has a daycare. I hope you know, I don't think Chloe has this vile this poisoning. It's something right. There's something what's in this file. So it has to be something that sedates or destroys it's definitely not something it's not a truth serum. It's not a happy thing. It's got to be something really. I think it's just straight up like a roofie sedate. It's like a Satan roofie like because they're only using it because again, he says I'll come in when he sedated. He mentions that so we know that it's a sedative but it's not a poison to kill him because they're they're using the fact that He's vulnerable around Chloe to use just a normal thing on him. It seems also we have learned from the past episodes. Even though Lucifer can die. He can't actually die. Meaning he would just go back to hell and not be in human form. Yeah, so maybe they want to capture him and just you know torture him for eternity or something. Is that the case if he dies at her hands? At Chloe's hands. I don't know. We don't know. I mean Kenny died in anyone else's hands. That's the well, I mean he specifically States before if he dies. He just goes back to Hell which is why he tries so hard to keep his body alive. And of course we saw what happened with Charlotte and amenadiel. I don't know. He was a human. I just am unsure if he knows all the rules because he also stated that he was somebody who couldn't be harmed and then Chloe and then Chloe, so I Know if he knows everything. That's why Chloe shot him the first time and then that's why in this I mean in my favorite scene of this episode with Chloe and Lucifer. I can't help but talk about them. Let me talk about definitely taught me talk about we are getting to lose for as Chloe on a date and the date itself. So yeah, the the date not my favorite date don't think went don't think it went as well as I could have. It was so nice to be part of that dress though, and she turned him down and She had work and all that but there is something so romantic about her finally realizing that it's her that makes him vulnerable. I don't know what so sexy about that. I don't know why that was arson. I thought it was a wonderful thing. You did to I see Stephen being against that scene. No. No, really. No. I'm under read your face. You have a heart. I'm just thinking of Ellie taking a Belita to the Opera. I love that line. It's just like a little line that tied up that Is that your pet name for her alley isn't isn't a lolly. I like that. Very close. Yeah, we were on board with it. But no, I love the scene between between her and him because it there comes a point with every character where if they don't start noticing shit. You're just like you're dumb, you know what I mean? And it just I'm glad that we finally got that moment where she's put everything together and be like, why is it this way because there's so many more Moments. She she walked out seeing him hold an SUV to a light pole like seriously screaming and everything. She's already seen his face. So she knows and we know that she knows she's shot him and he's been hurt all the time. So, why are you bleeding? Exactly? Like finally, maybe my favorite top five favorite moment in the show. Thus far all four seasons by far. It was such a real scene and Tom Ellis plays it'll amazingly but the concept of why are you bleeding? And very simply you I think what's so cool about this being on Netflix now is I don't think in the second episode of a fox show. They would have done this. I think that because it's a binge show. They don't have to think. All right. This either has to be in a premier or in a finale before we continue one of the ways we keep all these shows for you free is by our amazing sponsors. 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Yeah, you're bleeding did it at next week's Lucifer? Yeah. Yeah, and it was it just blew my mind as that's finally the reason that she goes back to Kinley and says I'm out I can't do this and I kind of thought in that moment can lie was gonna kill her it was something is he he's so calm. Umm, that it was scary father. Kenley is the scariest. Cast member they have again. They will just they will justify anything to take out Lucifer I think and it's the Brick In The Glass House. They're going to start just doing whatever it takes no matter who it hurts or no matter what happens. That was an excellent analogy now during the date. It seems like Khloe's going to pour pour the vile contents of the violin to lose for its class. The music comes on at Star Wars her that girl is poison. Her hand was shaking before it happens. Yeah. Hmm, because she knows she's about to she regardless of whether it's right or wrong. She's in love with him. And she this is going to really hurt him if not kill him. And I don't think she's emotionally come to terms with the fact that she will be the one who puts in the final dagger. I mean wouldn't things just be better for everyone if they sent him back to hell. I want me I'm a fan see this is why I said I'm surprised I thought you had a heart and now we realize you don't amenadiel chooses to stay in LA. And at the same time we find out Linda's pregnant in we find out in two parts. We find out from the phone call from the doctor and then we find out through a minute deals eyes what it's just rushed on them at the at the club. What are we gonna do with this and how is it possible that she's pregnant. Did you guys think it was possible that she could get pregnant not by an Angel. That's what I don't mean her womb. I mean that sperm but then we also have the concept of Chloe being kind of part Angel part Heavenly in some way made from Heaven. Exactly. Yeah II don't know what to make of this and also just checking in. It's been a I don't know how many years this show has taken place in this world. Old when is the last time that she slept with Lucifer? Ha ha ha. I was also thinking about that because that definitely had to be more like Maury Maury season back season recommend season 5 could definitely bring out some Omen like things with like the son of Satan and stuff like that. Oh, please now. Oh God, I'm not saying no because the show but it's she's having his baby this my heart is broken, but kept the show so much if that happens. I will be hooked forever aside now. I have to be a A deal aside from me not having a heart the scene where it's just like him smiling put his hand on her when she says that I thought was really great like the reaction in the way. They played it off. It didn't need the words. Yeah. Yeah, but do you guys would you rather amenadiel with Linda or with maze? I like a minute deal with maze. I like a minute deal with that one chick at the club talking to him the random girl random girl random. That girl is great. They were his funny we were talking about Spicy drink here spicy drink guys. She was so fun. He was very proud to have been improved to it. She's just going I don't know if that's true. But it was great. It was a great scene. It was a great scene for sure. We answer the question though, which one of them? Yeah. You have to choose between amenity land remained in maze. Thank you. Thank you Jeff. Oh my God. Neither. Okay. Well, like I said, he doesn't have a heart wanna just grab your the booth. You heard you're married. I don't know. About this maze fellow but committed deals and more fun name guys amenadiel and and I'm telling you that I want amenadiel with Maize or the fact that Linda could be pregnant with his baby is throwing me off. I know that that happens all the time and it's okay to have a baby with another woman and then marry another woman, but I want I want him and Maze to have a demon angel baby. I think the baby could just be human though because we found out that so angels can self-actualize and we don't know how long ago it was. Is that amenadiel slept with her it could have been when he was having that off phase where he was human. Yeah, so we have lost his wings. We don't know that the baby even has any Angel qualities at All We Know Nothing Jon Snow. Who's that? So here we go with Father Kelly gets his own Date With the Devil before we get into that. I'm sorry. Yeah. Can we please just mention a minute eel, trying to fit in with people in Los Angeles. It was like my favorite part of this entire episode because it's so true. It's like you're finally like You know, I'm just gonna go be a people person and then it's just so hard to be a people person when you're trying to be a people person and you're getting things stolen from you, please from all your friends are working. They don't have time for you and he doesn't have a job. So I think we're going to see a manatee. I'll get a job. He's my favorite person to mess with. Yeah. I like when the show messes with him not as much with Dan I love what amenadiel gets dicked on. That's all I feel not Dig Down. Okay. So father Ken Lee gets his own Date With the Devil. What is that housing know where he is? Well, I guess he's been stalking Club, but the whole thing Lucifer needs to get better locks. How can this do just walk up into I mean no. No, we don't care any we don't know that kenley's not an angel though, too. I was thinking I was an Avenger Avenger something Kane. Is he something more is he? Secret operative where he has training, is there any way and I don't know this could be really stupid. But is there any way that he is Lucifer and Amanda deals. Dad down there being embodying take he's God. Yes, I don't think so. All right, you know what this show you never know. I think it would have been a different meeting between the two if it was, you know, it was him saying what he didn't know it was his mom in Vanessa's body. I just made that name. Apple Charlotte, Charlotte. Yeah, white girl. I think it could I think it could be that but I don't think it will be, you know, it's obviously a possibility. Okay? Well, hopefully we'll learn a little bit of more if we get some news and gossip. Was there something you know more yes and news and gossip is going to talk conversation with Tom Alice on the rest of the cast about the show being canceled and then pick back up this article was coming via collider and he when he was asked about it. He said for about 36 hours. I was convinced that Be it then I had a call basically the moment that it was announced on social media that the show was cancelled was the moment. I started to feel better about everything because within an hour of that announcement, my phone had just gone absolutely crazy and then he talks about just the outpouring of things but it's interesting because think about how long he knew the show was canceled and it's not until the world knows that it's canceled. We're actually get saved. So it made him feel better for everybody else to know that the show was leaving which I thought was kind of cool tidbit. I'm actually a little mad at Tom Ellis in this interview. How come how come you didn't shout you out? You didn't shout you out and we just want to take this time to thank Roxy stryer the I was waiting for that and honestly I should read maybe like the fine print an article. This rendition of creep is for Roxy stryer. I would just die 30 days in a row, I would die. That's what it is. That's your news and gossip. That is great to know. So what's what's going on in that circle of hell second circle of Oh that was painful to hear. That was a painful note. Was it really thought it was pretty great. I didn't love it guys the second circle of hell. Or for people who are overcome by lust they are punished by being blown violently back and forth by strong winds preventing them from finding peace and rest again bring this to each character in this show. You got Chloe she is prevented from finding rest because she's being blown by The Winds of Father Kenley and blown by the by Lucifer had to complete his being blown by Lucifer. So her dad you said definitely found that Lucifer and it's also with Lucifer because he's being blown back and forth in terms of like what he can even expect out of life. With Chloe canceling the date does he want does she want to go on the date? Does she not want to go on the date? Then? She finally goes on the date and now he's got an old priest guy in his home and amenadiel to being blown by lust. Yeah, I mean everyone's being affected by love in this episode and let's just say Linda's different than love lust is different than love and you think they're in loans less is different than love Yeah. That's the thing. That's actually not an Alleyway that that is sounds more like I learned in Romeo and Juliet when we were in eighth grade, and we had to read the play and you had to say are they in lust or love guys talk to my eighth grade teacher there for me? I just want to smash you just wanted to smash but the second Circle hell again, you know, it's strong when symbolize the restlessness of a person who's led by the desire for fleshly Pleasures. Which again Lucifer straight up. Yeah, but I don't think that's him with Chloe. I think that's him with the rest of the world and with Chloe. It's more than lust it's a vulnerability. And it's the first time he's ever felt that but is it a thing that the first time he's ever felt that is also from the person who makes some figuratively and literally vulnerable. Yes, because it is checking her that I can go with that. Well, let's jump into predictions then I guess AfterBuzz TV prediction sound like some predictions here. I think father Ken Lee is gonna be bad news for everybody. I think he the organization is going to be a lot more powerful and a a lot more destructive than we think it is and I think Hellfire will rain down. I think the show seems to have too many twists to have it be that obvious that he is just as bad as we think he is I think maybe he has a Redemption Arc by the end of this season. I think that Lucifer and Chloe will not be together by the end of the season, you know, I don't know just coming up. I just think that Lucifer Lucifer is believing everything that father Ken Lee like he's trying to fight it but he's A part of him believes it and it's a law of physics like an object in motion tends to stay in motion until it's acted upon by by an object or an outside force. Exactly. I think Kinley Taps Trixie two Taps like as a resource. Sorry. Yes, it's okay. All right. Well, let's uh, let's tap each other where can people find you if you want to be found. I don't want to be found right now Roxy. I love being tapped by you all everywhere at Roxy stryer them. Feel free to stop me and I am Terron literally because I am to Ron I am th r a n and of course on a slew of other AfterBuzz after shows talking about all your favorite TV programs for now, we're talking great Lucifer stuff on Netflix weird mentioned this with you. So stay tuned for more Lucifer's we come back. We will see you on the next one Steven. 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