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It seems like it's been so long but also not longer a.m. It's pretty crazy. Thank you all for joining us. Like I said, we are covering Orange is the New Black season 7 episode 1 tonight still so crazy that it's the final season, but Here we are. I'm your host April joined by my lovely co-host. We have Brianna. I love everybody knew to our panel and thank you for joining us. Thank you for having me Francesca. How's it going? And lastly? Hey y'all such a great first episode. We got to see kind of every character a little bit here and there what are your overall thoughts? I'm just really anxious because we only got a taste. Yes, and there's already so much drama in the first episode. So I'm just really really ready to see how much deep more deep against definitely I felt it was a little bit more exciting than last season already and just the first episode. So it was a strong first episode and it kind of did feel a little bit of a reset a bit, you know, it was very Piper Centric and we you know caught up with some of the women in you know, how they've been doing since then, but it was kind of mostly her and then it looks like the show is trying a new device of like listening in to people's thoughts which was kind of interesting at first. I was like, what is this? Yeah you and I'm Event when I kind of I'm looking forward to if they continue to do this for the rest of the season like starting to hear the woman's thoughts and these situations definitely totally agree with everything. They all said, I loved the voiceover it is there's something like exciting about this episode. I don't know if it's just because it is, you know, we know it's the last season or something but there was just like a little extra little extra seasoning. Yeah. We have a lot for y'all tonight. So definitely stay tuned. We have a very special segment that we're going to do every episode of the show. Though we also have a special top three of our top three favorite female ships throughout the whole entire Series. So we definitely want to know what you'll have to think about along with some great news and gossip and predictions for the whole season. I want to start talking with basically who that meat of the episode was about Piper. Obviously, we see her going through the typical Ebbs and flows of what it's like to be out of prison. She's giving P samples meeting with her probation officer. I was most surprised about the situation with her dad because we've seen them. Have a great relationship throughout. Yeah. So before what did y'all have kind of think about her part, especially? Well, I selfishly want to know the stuff with her dad. What did y'all think about that? I feel like this episode was really interesting because okay. So if you remember where she was when the show started in season one, very different like she you know was upper-upper class close to the family loving relationship with them. Man, and like have these friends and like this career and now she's just like very estranged from like her family, even her brother who she lives with but like you can tell he's like function she is like the restaurant she's look down on now. She's getting fired from and you know this relationship with her dad is now like, you know, it's very strained and you know, they sprinkled a couple of flashbacks in this episode, which was what made me think of her in the first Season and just how different her life has gotten too and it was a it was her choices that led her down this path. But and she told her dad, you know, not all of them, but I regret most of them and I think it's her kind of finally coming to terms with like what her life has become, you know, when she was in jail. She kind of still was like had the okay. I can look forward to my life back, but now it's like, okay. Well, I'm back in my normal life, but no, okay things have kind of changed for me permanently. And so I think it's going to be a lot of her realizing like it's actually hitting her more now than when she was in jail. I feel ya, like there's also a lot of change when it comes onto her relationship with Alex. And so I just shows like you're out of prison and you don't even only have to stress about your situation with your friends and family on the outside. But even your relationship is suffering and things are just so different and it sucks because they both feel a change and their Dynamic but they just can't say it because they know how painful it would be to have to come to terms with like there's nothing you can do to get it back to It was and it's kind of ironic to say that their relationship was a lot healthier when they were both in jail. Yeah, that was definitely it's definitely like a situation ship like they are put in that situation. They're making the best of it because they were in that tiny, you know Universe. I agree. I thought that was interesting because when they both sat down you could tell it's just so fake I guess would be like the best word. Yeah Force faked like I was just me. I'm like a open book. So I I was like, oh my God, I would be just be like, oh my God on the way here. I got fired in this and this and this and they're just like trying to preserve what little bit they have. Yeah. And even in that I feel like the one moment of love you they had was when she was gonna tell her. Oh, you know the funny thing on the phone and then Piper she had a ruin the moment and and they lost any sort of actual connection or sharing that they were going to have and that's just very it's pleasantries and I think I'm it makes me wonder like how is their relationship going to be when you know, she does get out of jail. Like are they going to be able to find Connection again or is it like you said like is it just like when they're in tough situations and kind of sort of bonded together that the relationship actually works right? Definitely you can tell that they're trying not to like bring the other down. So Piper is out of jail, and she's supposed to be doing, you know, I don't want to say she's supposed to be doing well, but obviously better than being in prison, right, but she's not really I mean she's not locked in a Cell but clearly she's locked in and these other ways when we see her having the conversation with her parole officer and she's like Will it be great if I could pick up the night shift? Oh, but I can't because those going to lamb or if I could work at this other restaurant that offered me a job, but she can't because they sell alcohol and then you have Alex obviously going through a lot worse than you ever could ever compare to at the moment. But neither of them want to bring the other down. She doesn't want to say like I'm doing these terrible things in prison and Piper doesn't want to say no things are awful because why like burst the bubble of the dream that you have, but I'd know I really liked her parole officer. So she like had some really hilarious moments in the episode funny. Yeah, bring her often. She likes ask for sure. Yeah, I love how she's like, you can pay me now or his go back to jail or whatever. I'm like no sympathy. She's like, yeah. This is how it is. Yeah, that's how you got to be. I guess like we said she's living with her brother and their living this holistic lifestyle, which is great I guess is it or I don't know about be great for her bathroom in the sink. Yeah the forcing the baby to figure out do you? To pee or poop and using Code words to figure out like what I got baby. Like it's a newborn baby. Yeah, like a two-year-old who you're like, okay. So you need to pee now ya dig in the sand like waterskiing. I mean, they're obviously not doing very well financially either. They're like, oh we could really use those 60 bucks from are being your room. And obviously they're sharing a car to take the kid to the baby to the baby's doctor. So that's why Piper had to take the bus. So it's like that's why I thought it was kind of Think of the brother kept saying, you know, maybe you should ask your dad for help but it's like, you know, is he also not in a good place with his with their father as well like or was it maybe he just always doted on Piper in the past. I mean, yeah sure always like doted on Piper. It wasn't like their relationship was bad. But Piper was just more the Apple more of the eye and successful one and the the sun was always just doing his own thing kind of like the black sheep. Yeah. I found it interesting that she you know, she's living with her brother, but they're still the Amick of money because so many people don't even have a place to stay whatsoever. So that's why you know, we see people in real life going to halfway houses and we've seen people in a show do that as well. But she has a situation where at least she has a roof over her head, but it's also like okay. What point are you going to start making money but we learnt you know, because she had early release she's having to pay all these extra fees and it's just, you know, kind of like we talked about in our preview show ya how do you do something with no money? Like if you can't actually Really have someone that gives you the chance to make a decent living. How are you going to do anything? Like she's fighting for fifty dollars to be able to go and see her wife in prison. Yeah, and I mean, I feel like I learned like okay. She's like I didn't know I had to pay for my own testing and all of this other stuff and it's funny because when she was talking to her boss about asking for the days off, it's like she was asking for a lot all at once like we're going to get this like she wants the day off and the afternoon off and her check early, but it's like she actually really does need all of that stuff. They're important to her. So she's not like she's Trying to be that person but it's also like, you know, you're really not going to be able to you're not entitled to it. Huh? Yeah, and you can't always get what you want it. Yeah, like when she's asking her boss for these things. I was thinking the same thing as you I'm like, this is too much but like they're all equally important like she had to have off to go visit her parole officer. Okay, that's a non-negotiable you have to do that. But then to her seeing Alex is just as important because clearly, you know, it's this is the first time I think or yeah, it was like one of the first Sometimes they're seeing each other. That's also equally as I'm not sure relationship but like you got to give on something and it seems like she's been having to give on seeing as they also said something interesting about like I granted you this inmate visit which I thought maybe it's like a special thing that it Maize and mate can't that? Yeah current one. That's a thing like in real life. You're not allowed to go back to the president visit other inmates because I you guys can catch me on life after lockup. After show and so that was a situation was one of the characters on the show because she had a friend that was going to jail and a big thing was that she can't visit her friend and her friend was going to be gone for ten years. And that was just like the law that's why I was really surprised at Piper was able to go see Alex. She got furlough. She's going to see Alex. She got a thing. I noticed in her conversation with her boss. She never said like, oh, I have to see my profile parole officer. I'm visiting a friend in jelly feel like she was hiding the fact that she just was a felon She can't hide it. I work at least her personal information that and that job I mean, so it's just getting fired at the end anyway, but I feel like that was probably already putting her in a precarious situation because she wasn't being completely truthful. Yeah. I thought the same thing when we were watching it, but I was like no surely she told them because on every application like no matter where you're working. It says like have you ever been exactly that one? But I'm sure it's just like you don't want to keep mentioning it every time. Oh, I knew this off because my parole officer and less but I would drop it if he wasn't giving me it off then I wouldn't Admit what I mean, I guess that's what you get when you work at thunder thighs are burning. I'll I read it as thunder thighs originally don't like this is amazing. It's like all the fun places in La we got a few flashbacks of Piper. One of my favorite was seeing Larry AKA Jason Biggs. I've loved him since the beginning and I liked their Dynamic even though it was weird obviously because she was secret lesbian. I'm secretly I am but you know what? I mean? Yeah, and so I liked being able to have the flashbacks and hearing her do the Of like wow my life used to be this and I know this was difficult and the flashback of her with her friend where they're talking about doing ecstasy. I'm like all of these things used to happen that she probably took for granted because she thought I'm never gonna get caught. This is never going to happen to me and then here she is now. Yeah, let that be a lesson to you right don't do drugs before we get into her like official visit with Alex. Brianna has a little something for us. I do. I just want to take a special moment to thank everyone. We won for watching. 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But agree, she agreed to help her in order to get her off Piper's back, but then Piper ended up getting early release anyway, so now she's just done all of yes for nothing. So she is miserable. Obviously. What do y'all think about her tactics of trying to get baddest in in trouble? It got me nervous because for a second I thought she was purposely trying to do something to Tasty. So I was really confused for a second. I'm like, yeah, what's going on? What is she doing? But I mean It ultimately worked unfortunately drag tasty into it though to Solitaire. I feel like tasty always gets dragged into stuff that she yeah anything to do with I think that the I life that she was taking a little initiative but it's just like in her conversation with Piper. It's like leave it alone. Yeah, that seems like so miniscule in comparison to all the restaurants at that. She's doing with the drug. Yeah. Well we learned that she told her hey I'm going to try to you know, stay out of trouble and be on the down low. You know kind of stay clean and she got a found herself this episode being forced to you know, sell or figure out a way to unload these drugs by the way, the whole all of her interactions with that steel helmet. Yeah. I was like what's his name? We're awful and they felt very just like he's gross like well, you know and whenever he put the condom of like, you know, all of the drugs heroin in her mouth and like stuff to it felt so rapey it all of it was just like awful like she's being forced into this situation has no Control over and like she even said this busted my stomach gonna die and she kind of found like a solution, you know, she was going to sell it to Daddy and then we get the big like surprise death of the first episode. Yeah, which so that put her and more of a bad situation. But like that was crazy. I didn't see that coming. Yeah the when the scene with him like you said putting the condom of heroin in her mouth. It was just it's like there's a weird part of me that like seeing those things don't like sand but so you got to listen or I got have to say before it's like, oh she likes that see ya. It's I like seeing that because I feel like that's the kind of stuff that really happened. Really? Yeah. Oh, yeah want to get in trouble and they want to be able to you know show this is what happens to a prisoner to a prisoner that maybe did terrible things to get in here whatever but is also like literally putting her life in danger so that other people don't get in trouble. Or it so that the see ya in trouble. Yeah, and it was just to think about it and even seeing him give her the laxatives at the end so she could you know, who but I doubt it was just awful and the fact that she's being forced into the drug situation and can't get out of it Addison. It's like I feel like she's in a no-win situation. Oh, yeah that scene. I mean it was that moment was so awful and hard to watch because it was an invasion of her body like and you know, it's like yeah, that's a it's a rubber. It's going down your throat like there's All of these it was just it was awful. And then and then yeah, you see her having to clean it and still having to figure out okay, how am I going to get out of this? How am I going to get rid of this and it's just that's how this this new character comes in. She's at the very beginning of the episode but we see kind of everybody in the yard, which is where we see some of our favorite people come in that didn't have big moments in the show. We see Suzanne we see pennsatucky. Obviously, this is where tasty enters but there's this character that's walking around to everyone asking for drugs and at this point we have Obviously baddest in is bringing these in through Co Hellman, but we also have Daya still doing her thing. The thing that was crazy as far as you know, obviously in this part with Alex at the beginning in the yard with the drugs when tasty enters it's like everyone's seemingly is kind of scared of her because they think she committed murder whatever but then she's also we get a glimpse of her still being the same tasty when Alex does the phone trick and you know hides the on which I was like, this is pretty amateur for the stuff that y'all have done before but hiding the phone under baddest ins pillow and calling it but tasty was in the room. She gets we still see the same side of her because she has this little you know, the appeal denied thing under her and she gets that like almost girlish like no give me that not girlish, but you know what? I mean? She's just still kind of hoping for the same thing. I like being able to see both aspects of her character kind of mixed in there with these Other people. Yeah, and it really says a lot about her character to as a person because a lot of times when you're in a situation where you have this reputation of this badass or like oh, yeah, I was convicted of murder. They ride that, you know, it's kind of like a up and status now and yeah, everybody's afraid of me but tasty could care less because she knows the truth. She's sticking to that and she doesn't care about like what anybody thinks of her or what great respect that she'll get from it. She just wants her life back and it's I'm glad that it didn't change her that much to where she just stopped caring about stuff and ended up being Reckless like how diet is and so I just really admire her in that sense same I mean, she still tasty like she still gets down as we see her little yeah like bang Madison's head on the thing they go to ad seg. I mean like but I feel like that's something tasty would have done all through out. There is the part of me though that things like she just I mean she has life in prison at this. There's like I feel like she just doesn't care. She does care in the sense of like, oh, maybe there's still hope of me getting out one day, but she also was just like yeah, let me just bash your face in. Yeah because you're a little mean to me but that's kind of how it goes. One of the other interesting parts that kind of has to do with tasty is the interaction between Suzanne and Cindy whenever they're in loose checks dance class. Let's check is still here still teaching. We remember that Suzanne was, you know, being quote unquote manipulated technically by her friends are not technically by her friend and she saw the situation of the other. What are they called? The the SWAT team? That's who actually killed Stormtroopers piscatella. Yeah, it's good. Yeah, but obviously that's why Then was committed or what sort of thinking of accused of murder and officially found guilty. But Suzanne and Cindy sod-all Susanna's the one who's kind of manipulated into believing that this is actually true. So to see this interaction with them where she still really thinks this obviously we know that she's in Psych Technically, she's off her meds at this point in time, but she still believes this to be true and to see Cindy kind of really stick to her. Guns in this moment and be like, what are you talking about? This isn't true and it just confuses. Her more was a little confusing to me because Cindy who went against her and the trial now, I'm like, are you feeling all of this remorse? We knew she was going to but like I don't know to see her saying it kind of just out in the open where anyone could hear was just a little confusing. I'm like now you now you feel bad. Now you feel like telling the truth when it doesn't matter. She's felt bad the whole time. She felt like she had no other choice so she didn't see a way. Out of that situation, but you saw her in this episode. We obviously it's still eating at her and she's getting letters saying, you know rat, you know snitch and I don't I mean essentially I guess she got kicked off the show that she had you know with with Marisol but I think the the whole scene with her and and Suzanne was really because Suzanne's really smart, but she's also like very childlike and naive and she's like, well, this is what I've been told like this is a institution like the judge and the jury they all said she Did it so it's almost like these figures of authority that she sees she weighs them more as to as against what she saw with her own eyes like she is just like yeah. She did it this that's what they said, even though. She knows like she's all that she didn't and so I just thought that was an interesting moment with her about like this competing these competing ideas in her head, but like what she still ends up believing because of the systems and you know, what other people will believe to like, this is someone who knew her and saw the situation but she still like, oh she's a murder. So what does everyone else going to think who is it in? Going to see tasty as a murder and they don't know what's going on. Exactly. It's like the part with pennsatucky and Suzanne in the yard. This is at the very beginning of the episode where she's kind of telling her, you know, she's waving at Tasty. She's like, oh, hey come over here and pennsatucky quickly stops her because she's like no she's not your friend anymore. She's you know, she's a lifer exactly. She's a lifer she committed murder because no one else knows the truth, obviously and you know not to or Not predicting anything but I'm like I would just wonder if we're gonna see the truth come out. I did read an article where Danielle Brooks who plays tasty said that she really hopes that someone just tells the truth, but then that also makes me sad because if that happens then like Cindy screwed not only do I on the stand but you know you witness this as well and still lied. So yeah, I don't know how how we're going to be able to do that are other kind of main Arc of the episode was with Daya and dead daddy. Mainly diary pids obviously aren't ya that was fast. Yeah no time. I don't see that coming. I mean, you know as I was watching this happiness like oh, yeah, you know last season ended with you know, these two figureheads the competing sisters who like ended up killing themselves off. And so now she's the new person running, you know, that side and Mattison is running the other ones and now she's gone to and the whole thing was like man, they're not like not playing around this season. They're going for it. What what is it that diet gave her it was some sort of obviously it was drugs. Well, do you remember in like the beginning when they were in the yard who was it was trying to give the girl that wanted drugs some Hooch Hooch and she's like, I promise it doesn't have hand sanitizer in it. Like all the other ones do so, I think I don't think Daya realized what it was what was in it? And that's just shows how much dye has just messed up and on drugs because she was completely not even thinking not even caring. She's just mad. His daddy's over here doing things for quote unquote business. Yeah, I'm leaving for business. Yeah, and thought she was being you know Sly and she didn't realize like yeah, I mean, we all didn't realize we were so confused like who's like confuse the are these but and also like it was it intentional with she just she was just out of it then. Yeah, but it's because even when even one what's a hopper pulled her to the side And was like, what are you talking about? Daddy's dead and dying is like dot dad he's not dead. Like she's so challenge. Yeah, even realize was seriousness of what she did. Yeah, definitely wasn't intentional. I think it's really sad because the out of all of the characters on this show. I feel like Daya has descended the most was so sad. I'm like she I mean she stuck ourself with a life sentence. Now, you know, she had a baby and she had a, you know, it went into the system. She doesn't have it. Really any support anymore, you know and and now she's just like someone who's high all the time doesn't care. I think even her relationship with that. I don't know if they it was actually like they loved each other but it was like this was someone that like, you know, this is hers, you know, the person that's taking gonna take care of are going to watch out for her and then as soon as she felt any ounce of like, okay, I don't have you all to myself or I don't you know, if she felt some sort of a trail like how quick she was able to like turn and essentially caused her to die. Yeah. I feel like once you reach up. Point where you're her mom, I like the ladies when you have a lady telling you get your life together and get it like do better. Yeah, I'm like, yeah, you've hit bottom. Can we talk about Elena this episode because we all over the place Ray also like I feel okay. It's a female saying this but she is a home but you're walking by and then and then you're like, okay, I guess she's back with her baby daddy Caesar and then it She saw a guy and yeah, you know, she's just what she needs. She's just very selfish and it really sucks because I mean we could go and to a whole nother Side Bar topic on this but we won't but like about just this this whole thing about Cycles like prison Cycles her cycle as like a mom. She never liked kids. She never wanted kids yet. She has like five and you saw them talking at the dinner table just like so disrespectfully and just like it's like, why would you raise your you know, why would you Have kids and go through that. If you don't even like them, you're so concerned about yourself because now like look at diet as example. Like she's just re kind of repeating the mistakes and you know different ways that whole scene with them at the table was really funny though. It wasn't your daughter is going off at each other and then later, you know at the end she kind of gives them a look like she's kind of proud. Yes. She does look like she was proud to say though as much as like her character does a lot of like really like, you know despicable things. I really enjoy her character. So she's fascinating and interesting and I almost feel like we see her traits a lot of times in male characters like, you know, not really caring for your like, you know, as a mother a woman sometimes it's like, oh you're supposed to have this maternal instincts really have it. That doesn't mean she doesn't love her kids, but that's just not the kind of woman she is and so I think I don't know. I like watching her scenes. I think she's always entertaining and Elena is a perfect example of when you go into this this like you're going to the system messed up and then you I'm out and you try to do better, but then it just doesn't work for you and you just go right back into your old ways because she really did try to go the legit proud didn't give it enough effort. And then she's like f it I'm going to go ahead and do what I know what to do get this money take care of my kids, but it sucks because there's so much potential for her and Hopper to really have a normal relationship but it's almost like she's more attracted to the chaos. She definitely yeah, and that's what's like, she's her. On roadblock and she doesn't really see it or she sees it and she doesn't really care. It's just like her giving up on dying, you know, she's knowing that die is doing these drugs that she's bringing in. Yeah, or you know essentially die as the drug mold more mule but she gave up on her because she's like, oh, she's High she's hooked like crazy. She's not gonna get better at this point. So let me just focus. Let me keep doing this. I don't really care about you, but get these other kids back and then we see her. Back with these other kids and she just like I said, it's not leading the same cycle. Yeah doing all the same stuff back with Caesar. I think his name. Yeah, it's just I will say like, you know as much as I love her character. She also like I'm like, I just want to shake you so bad. Yeah so much potential, but I literally we all actually LOL to when she got I've got cars. We cringed but above the same time. Yeah, I love that the show is going to do something like that. Like what this fall out with diet though. I think that the moment where y'all were saying you kind of just maybe have a have a little bit of an epiphany because think about when diet and Daddy are in the thing and she's like we have to establish establish dominance yada yada yada and I was like, yeah, let's tell her it was like, yeah because she was did she Kill Daddy on purpose but now well Well, I feel like maybe there is more to what happened in that situation and we'll find out. I mean, it's definitely possible but it's interesting to me that the only times throughout the episode that she seemed with it or not high are what the two times where she saw daddy like looking or with another woman. So it's like if she's in a state where everything is just bad when she is coherent then she's only going to feel good when she gets high, but that's like you kind of put yourself. In this situation, I mean, obviously these things have been put on her that she can't control but she knew you know, she knows very well what she's doing in the sense of when she's doing after drugs, but I think if she didn't I don't think she actually did it on purpose but I think it's going to hit her when she really realizes that this is the reason why she died is directly because of what her I gave her maybe this might be a wake-up call for her. I was just gonna say that I hope so because like we've said like this is she's the one that's fallen for this. Yeah from her her original Ark and like yeah, let's let's bring her back. She would be the best like come back story for us because I don't I mean, I don't think she there's any way that she's gonna get out of her sentence, but she's the one that I kind of root for the most to be like no because she was so innocent even though you know, she was like, she cannot was running off. I just I would love that. I feel like she's just gonna be the sad story. I feel like yeah, I don't I don't really see her. Getting better. Yeah, I mean but I mean we can hide out. Our other favorites didn't get too much time in the episode. But we see Lauren has had her baby baby is with Vinny, especially babies Sterling Chef. Shout out to Sterling. Yeah. She used to be on our panel. Um, and also we see a very small snippet of Gloria and red route is just ridiculously depressed because she has all this time back or Final time on her sentence and basically everyone's just depressed. Yeah at this moment in time. So hopefully we'll see some up and up. Yeah before we get to our special segment anything else we want to say from the episode anything we missed. I think we hit on think we did really good for the first episode and I'm now we see through it a lot of stuff happening but and I gotta see more with tasty like we got a little you know, when she started fighting with Madison and you saw the letter, you know appeal denied, so obviously She's still like that means she's still fighting. She's still trying I mean obviously doesn't seem like her efforts are paying off. But I hope that that doesn't just end there and I mean we do see we see Cindy feeling guilty. So I that's the story where I'm like really hopeful. I'm like, I hope that that still gets resolved in a positive way decide. Definitely. Okay, Briana is going to do our special segment for us. Yeah right: excited. Okay, so we have this fun little game that I love to play It's called who did it love it. And so I have three ladies that today heinous crimes you see them right there and I'm going to read the crimes to you guys. So have to guess like who did what crimes they did these crimes in real bizarre real life criminals, like while real life. Okay? Okay, so we have lady number one. These might be a little easy for you, but we'll see the lady number one. Her name is wanna borrow. This is way too easy lady don't guess. Yeah. Well they can see the pictures. Okay names? Okay. Yeah, so well, that's too late. Anyways continue. So She was a Mexican wrestler. She pretended to be a nurse / social worker and gained home access to people and basically she was strangled them and then Rob them - and she ended up getting a convicted of 11 counts of murder dang. So the next one is Dorothea Puente and she ran a boarding house in Sacramento, and she poisoned her residents and Stole their checks. Oh, yes, and so the cops raided her house found body parts buried in the backyard. Oh my gosh, and so she got tried for nine murders of that. Okay casual, right? And then our last one this should this last one used to be a movie. Like I promise if someone doesn't make this movie, I'm going to be mad Catherine night. She worked at a slaughterhouse, but she killed and skinned her boyfriend. Wait for it. Wait for it cooked his body parts. Hold on and served them to his kids. Oh my God. She kept it healthy with a side of veggies tcats it healthy. So wanna Bara Bara Bara Bara Rosa Dorothea Puente and Catherine night. Who do you think is who I'm gonna go for it wanna is the lady in red, okay. Okay, and I think the lady whose skinned her boyfriend is the lady in the middle Catherine Catherine. And then I think the bad checks is the lady in blue and blue. Okay, I'm gonna I am going to go with that as well. You're all going to go the same thing. Yes. Oh my God. You got a right? Yeah. Absolutely. Literally the one in the middle. She looks like she just made stew. Yeah. She put the head in a stew pot. That's so funny that you said that she good thing. I Many in yet because my stomach's already upside down but yes, that would honestly be a great movie. Yes that we bomb this is gonna be maybe one of my tough special segments about thank you so much, of course, and now we have our top three top three, so obviously, you know, there's so many great themes that we love about the series and as we are in the last season, we wanted to look back and look at our top three favorite female. Ships so female relationships and could be encompassing friendships may be a little bit of rotation but like our top three. Yeah. So let's get started with number three. It's Nikki and Lorna so they obviously have a very special friendship and obviously Nikki, you know would have liked to have made it more but she tried a lot and I mean that didn't mean they didn't have their own moments of pleasure. But you know, Lorna is still straight and that's what she prefers and but you know what they're hilarious together. Yeah, and they really bring a lot of humor, too. Show and regardless even if Nikki couldn't have her as a girlfriend. She obviously loves and cares for her as a friend and vice versa. And so there are really cool. There are number three female ship of the show. Number two is flaca and Maritza, um, obviously, I don't want to get makeup advice from any of their they obviously had such great chemistry that were both clever and sassy and you can tell like they could have really A been the biggest YouTube stars ever, you know to catch up with Maritza and see what and obviously we miss her and would love to see I mean, I'm hoping we get to see what happened before the end of the series but you know, these are two girls that always look fly in prison and we know that Amy and number one female relationships, you know ship of all together. Okay? Okay, let's taste. So obviously they exactly like the story that broke our hearts so many times but they had such a beautiful relationship. There was so much love genuine friendship caring, you know, when the show first started who say like, you know had feelings for her more than just friendship and obviously that kind of put a damper in their relationship as friends. But you know what they grew from it, they were each other's like Partners ride or die and you No, tasty solves his last moment and like fought for her and has been fighting for her and the spirit of her ever since and they are literally like one of the reasons that the show, you know has been so great. They were the heart of the show for a long time. And so we love their ship together relationships. Using beautiful glowing pregnancy picture that she shared on social media. So she actually expecting right now, which is kind of cool the actress Danielle and you know, we just want to show her some love could be right. We see you. Yeah. She does. Okay. Now we have predictions AfterBuzz TV predictions so much. Obviously, we have a lot of work just on episode 1 One but give me some like overall or episodic prediction. I every all think I feel like we're going to see Alex and Piper's relationship definitely either end or go through a lot of like ups and downs now that they're split up. I never necessarily rooted for them. So I kind of feel like it might go in this direction. I don't know. That's yeah. I actually I think as much as I mean I I care about them sometimes and other times not I do think Alex and Piper and game. For this show and so I feel like they're probably going to have their issues. But I feel like at the end I'm going to be together gonna they're gonna break up but then at the end of the last episode she's just going to look at her and be like, okay come here. And yeah, I am interested in seeing what's going to happen with red. I kind of see her staying in prison and sort of just embracing like being the prison mom like helps other girls and like maybe that ends up being what gives her happiness and purpose in life. And yeah, I mean, I'm interested in seeing what happens with Daya this season just because based off this episode I Like she's got some demons that she's gonna yes go through. Yeah, I'm definitely interested to see what happens with the red and Gloria because they are going to get closer and I feel like Gloria's also prison mom. She's not as like hovering as read is but she's definitely a prison mom and I love her so I can really see her going above and beyond making sure Reds well-being is intact. So I want to see that love that I'm going to predict that actually tasty is going to Our saddest story of Orange Is the New Black just because I think she's the one who we would root for the most and I don't think they're gonna give us what we want in that sense. I think they will with other things but with with her, you know, I feel like the most heartbreaking things on the show that we've always wanted. They've never given us so I could shoot her not winning an appeal and it's like how they show how the system works and even though we didn't see Blanca this episode, but I'm hoping that we saw your soon the season because what happened I gotta know. I know she's gonna make it back to Diablo. All right Lee. Thank you so much for joining us such a great time with y'all. Let us know what you thought in the comments. We definitely want to hear from you all and the meantime, you can find you everywhere at April with some hand. You can find me on Instagram at Brianna. I am the understand Cheyenne and you find me on Twitter and Instagram XOXO Cesc a lastly here and you can find me online at Leslie that face see y'all for next episode. Our founder Keven undergaro and me Maria Menounos would like to thank you for tuning in to AfterBuzz TV. 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Hosts April Whisenhant, Lesley Corral, Francesca Dugan and Breanna Chianne talk about the season 7 return of Orange Is The New Black! It's the final Season and Piper's finally getting out of the joint. Write your predictions in the comments and follow us all season long! ABOUT ORANGE IS THE NEW BLACK Orange is the New Black comes from "Weeds" creator Jenji Kohan about a women’s prison drama with comedy that takes no prisoners. Based on the acclaimed memoir of the same name by Piper Kerman, the series is about engaged Brooklynite Piper Chapman, whose decade-old relationship with drug-runner Alex results in her arrest and year-long detention in a federal penitentiary. To pay her debt to society, Piper must trade her comfortable New York life with fiancé Larry, for an orange prison jumpsuit and a baffling prison culture where she is forced to question everything she believes about herself and the world at large. As she struggles to adjust to her new reality, she finds unexpected laughter, tears, conflict and camaraderie amidst an eccentric and outspoken group of inmates. 