Hey guys, this is Lisa and Rebecca and we are here on the secret life of weddings. If you like drama, you're in the right place where we tell you the world's craziest, but true wedding stories. So get ready for the drama on the secret life of weddings. Era, Becca. Hey episode 82. Yep episode 82 of the secret life of weddings podcast. This is Lisa and Rebecca. Yeah, I'm still making you do it. Oh man. You're right. You got a migraine coming on, don't you? Yeah, I do. Are you going to be a little lesser Becky today? Yes, just a little bit. Yeah. That's okay. Definitely. We still love you. Yeah, do you think you're getting sick though, too? Yes. Yeah, yeah, how do you know? I can feel it in my face and your face my face hurts. Maybe it's your sinuses. Yeah. Yeah for sure because that good it's a sinus cold or whatever. It is sinus infection. I will say I like almost passed out while shoveling today. Why were you shovelling make your husband do it? He was already gone to work because he leaves super early and then my kids had to go do their exams and they were getting ready and I was like screw it. I'll just go do it quick the end of the driveway cause The plow finally came around last night of course and you know - 30 temperature. The snow is all Frozen at the end of my driveway. No tends to be like that. Yeah Frozen know like frozen ice blocks of ice blocks of ice, right? Yeah. So I was like, oh my God is a lot harder than I thought it was going to be and again, it's like just make him do it and then my head was hurting and stuff. So, where was where was your husband last night? He did shovel last night, but the plow didn't come until the middle of the night short and he has a truck and he was just like I don't have time to show of all time. I don't worry about he's like just get Justin to do it my son and that's what he's for. He said I was 17. I'll just do it. It's fine. Whatever. Yeah, and then I did half of it and I'm like, well, there's enough room for you to get out and then you go to the rest. You're like superwoman. I did the very front of our driveway the other day and went fuck this and walked inside. Yeah, I gave up so fast. Was huffing and puffing you have never seen someone so out of shape from someone's it was hilarious. It's hard work. It's really hard it is we have this really crappy little shovel. Yeah quite tiny, right and everybody in California is laughing at us. Yes, they are in Australia right now to the because fucking cold man so hot over there is so cool today. Like that was the problem when I was shoveling is I couldn't breathe. Yeah. It's that like I felt like my lungs were going to freeze its the daggers. And your chest coughing? Brutal. Well, I've been outside a lot today, but it wasn't because we were shoveling big day for me today because officially I'm leaving my studio and I've been there for about three years now and it was a great time but I am leaving photography and it was just time. Yeah, you know and I tried to do the portraiture thing and a couple of reasons. I didn't want to I just didn't want to do it anymore. Yeah, I I realized I've fallen out of love with it and I don't want to keep doing something if I'm not in love with it and it's not to say I'll never do it again, but I'll probably never do it again or now. This is where you're at. You don't want to here's the thing I said this before and I'll say it again. If a wedding comes up as a novelty to do like maybe a couple of year. Yeah, it'll be a novelty because I'm not doing them all the time and I don't mind doing that but to force myself to do portraiture to force myself to do weddings when I'm not head over heels in love anymore with it. Yeah. I don't think that's right to Do I think it's one of those jobs to you have to love it. You do have to love it. I'm sorry. I know a lot of photographers will disagree with me. But I think I think you have to love it in order to do it really? Well. Yes, and I think too many people get lulled into a just making it a business a day to day they lose the passion, but they don't give a shit that they've lost the passion. Yeah. Yep, and that's not necessarily fair to the client either. So no, you know, I want it and I'm very proud that. I think I created. Beautiful work until the end absolutely and it's not necessarily the on but like I'm still doing, you know music photography, which is my passion. Yeah, although not that I get out that much but I still will ya still do occasional weddings, but it has to be for the right client. It is basically the most diverse too high-maintenance clients I've ever been. Yeah at this point. It's yeah if you want to be cool, you know pretty chill work with me that way awesome. No, that's great. But I just oh my gosh, I've talked to a couple people and I said, you know, yeah, let's discuss it whatever and then they got high maintenance like right away and I was just like I can't I can't do this. Yeah. This is why I'm getting out of it. And yeah, it's not for me, you know, so I noticed that shift though. Do you think it's like an actual like shift within the industry it is a shift now. I will say my clients aren't high maintenance. Yeah, like the ones I have right now currently booked they've been amazing, but I mean I Also see the shift in the whole industry that clients are getting like you need to handhold and yeah, why is that? No offense. We don't get paid enough for that. Yeah. It's no really we don't and I won't take on people like that because I get it's one day and you know, it's one day I get that. I guess it's an important day. I do get that. I understand that but they almost need more of a planner. I think I need a fucking Planner. Yeah. Okay, I do. I consider myself a jack-of-all-trades for couples absolutely most wedding photographer and we are and we go above and beyond most of us but a common expectation again, we're back to expectations. Exactly and you know, I don't mind helping you with your itinerary because I want it to benefit me, right of course, but I'm definitely not gonna I'm not going to entertain 50 emails either from a client. Yeah. Sorry II get that that maybe that's something Something either photographers will do but time is money baby. And and that's exactly what I think I'm past. Yeah that I'm just I can't I can't get there anymore. Yeah, and then you know and then I was like well, let me try portraiture, right? Yeah, and I did some beautiful stuff. I'm really proud of the work I did. Yeah, but I didn't love it and I was hoping that it wasn't photography as a whole. It was just weddings that I was like, okay, maybe I'm just out of love with weddings and I can shift my technique and everything and keep the studio. And yeah. Yeah, and be happy there and then I realized trying to do these portraitures portraits. Number one, you have to have high turnover. If you have a portraiture business and you have a studio. Yes, like a lot of clients all the time, right because portraiture you're obviously not making as much but it's also spilling the same mentality spilling out into portraits. Is it really see? I don't family sessions and stuff because I do it. All right you do so I get the same and I'm noticing that shift majorly. I why do you think that is I think Just that generation. Yeah, right. Yeah, and we're getting older I know and we're kind of were used were used to our our mentality and how we look at things right and certain clients that were more of art closer to our age another so much younger right not a lot but they've heard what but that generation. They just they expect so much more. Maybe that's it. Yeah, I don't know and Hate to tell you but you're not going to get more like a lot of that's just the way it is and they want more and they want it faster and they cheaper cheaper and that's just kind of the way it is. And this isn't actually just so you guys know this isn't just our opinion know that we're here in this a lot from our friends in the industry minute. Let me PSA y'all are losing amazing fucking photographers in the industry because they're quitting because they can't take it anymore. Yeah, some are that's that's the reality of it. There's too many good people. I know that have quit and I'm and I'm just like know if you go then how the fuck am I going to stay in this? Oh your strongest. No, but you know what, I mean like and it's the same with like I shoot families as well. Yeah, I get it. I get tons of inquiries, right? I would say about 60 percent of them. I won't take really yeah because they want a consult. Yeah their family session. I don't do that. Yeah, I don't do that because that's not my thing. I'm not an editorial post. We don't have been drug-free don't make enough money from a portraiture session to no weren't a consult. No, no the problem. I don't mind having a quick chat with you on the phone. That's totally cool. If you need to understand something. I don't have a problem with that. But let me tell you Mike. Is that my ideal clients? They're booking me. Yeah, they're booking me without any of that. Yeah, and I don't need any of that and I'm not going to give you a style guide and I'm not going to hold your hand while you go shopping. Yeah for clothes and and it's not to be a bitch. It's just you're not my client. That's the thing. I kind of didn't want to go down all that road, which is why I got the Wardrobe in and I got and I was just like just come come do it, you know, bring whatever you want, but I have stuff, you know, and and 99% of the time people just ended up using my stuff. Yeah, but exactly and it's like you have to be head over heels in love with this and this whole process and I really did used to love all of this and that's the thing we all did but then there is this big shift. Yeah, and I think and it kind of kills that it kills that passion that you have. Yeah. It's probably a natural progression in a way to it's like, you know out with the old in with the new for sure. Absolutely generationally. I think it's this way the whole like, isn't it amazing at this shit. I'm like, I'm old. Yeah. You this shift though has pushed people. Yeah, the ones that we know they expedited the whole leaving the industry, you know? Yeah, because and I'm not trying to shit on people. I'm just saying like, it's got a I think more it's almost like we have to educate. Oh, well, that's that's what people say like the masses. You got educate them know people are saying you had to educate photographers and have them adjust to the new know I think people need to be educated on. You know, what photography is a luxury I told us that this to you before you said it too. Yeah, it's a luxury it's not something you have to have like the BMW. Yeah. I mean, you know, you should do you should everybody should have something nice in their life for sure. But but are you gonna not be able to get married without it? No. No, but is it important? Yeah. Yes. So you have to you have to weigh your you know, pros and cons right? You got to weigh it out, you know that, you know this guy's but anyway, I just wanted to do it I just It's true though. It's true. And if you're seeing that shift, let us know because we were curious. We know a lot of photographers are listening to this show. Yeah, as well. So if you're a photographer or if need anybody in the wedding industry, you know or portrait or whatever. Are you noticing this because we certainly are hearing from our friends. If you don't your liar or they're young or there y'all are young? Yeah, and um, and there's nothing and there's nothing wrong with me and young, you know, that's great. But amazing. We're just noticing quite a shift in the more established. Yeah parts of the industries and I noticed my ideal clients are older is all right. Yep, isn't that funny? Mmm Yeah, I've just so I've just hilarious. I've lost. You know what I've lost Rebecca. I've lost the drive to chase it and once you lose the drive to chase the business at all. Yeah, you'll go I didn't go down but I just decided I decided to step away and I was like, I'm not going to do it this year. You know, I always say to my husband. I'm like I'm tired of chasing a paycheck exactly. It's exhausting after 11 years. It's very exhausting. So tiring. Yeah, can I tell you something that like we don't get to go just to our job and our job and get paid weekly like it's not this now, you know, you have to always be weren't wondering if I'm putting all this here's a problem with the consult stuff too. I'm putting all this effort it and then they ghost you. Yep, and then so, you know ghosn, you know, what is a huge problem right? Now those people doing that? Let me tell you if you guys are doing that. Stop it, please. No, stop it. Yeah, I'm not going to be nice about it. Yeah, don't be a dick like stop it. We deserve didn't to know if you're booking or not. It's so simple. It takes you 2 seconds. Just keep your vendors updated. Yeah, like just like thank you so much. But I've gone with someone else. I appreciate it. I was go cool. Thank you. Thank you. I mean, thank you for let me know now. I can delete your fucking email and forget about you. You know what I mean? I can move on to someone else exactly. You know, like I keep these emails in my I have dates all around are usually being like raided this wedding quoted this one. Yeah this wedding. Can you hold the date? No, I I can't no no. No, I can't without money fire up the ghost and it's not cool. The ghosting is a is a is I say this as I goes people that write to us not ghosts. I don't ghost them. I just yeah, you just haven't been able to write them back. But listen so many I'll tell you something that really is pissing me off though, and I can't say this to anyone. So I'm just going to say it to the general public. I can't say the city my brother tell everybody I'm gonna tell everybody because it's so funny. It's like, you know people I see day-to-day in my town. Don't necessarily listen to the show. So it's like only a few do but yeah, they're my friends. So they'll know if I'm bitching about this. They'll get it. It's really pissing me off because every time I'm like it was almost terrified to put stuff up from my studio for sale on my Facebook page. You know, why you're leaving photography. Oh no. Oh, yeah quit first of all guilt about the fact that I'm good at something and I shouldn't quit something. I'm good at which is already a scary thing to do. Yeah, you know to walk away from something. Yeah for 11 years and you know, like I am good at it. I know I'm good at it. Nothing I could do. No. Okay. No. No, you ain't fucking right. No, no. No, I'm very much a you do you if you need to that you also kind of went. Oh, oh, yeah, you know I can see that. Yeah, but you're at the same place I am but here's the thing all my clients. For example. Oh my God, which I appreciate you know that they care but here's it makes me feel bad or like people who don't know me. Oh and then like I was selling, you know, I was selling some stuff and then I had someone come to buy something at the studio and I was like, yeah, you know, I'm closing too young. She was really sorry. It didn't work out for you. Yeah, and I'm like, oh, oh, no it did it worked out quite well, everyone's graders. It worked very well, but I just was like no no. No, it was my decision. Yeah changing careers quite odd. Why is it we assume that just because someone's changing they think we fail fail. Yeah, and that's really something that's been frustrating to me. Yeah hurtful. And I know it's just me being sensitive about it, and I kind of don't care anymore, but when I was first Going through but it's not it's not being sensitive though. It was sliced people being asked assuming and I hate that. I hate that people assume that maybe I'm having another baby. I'm not but yeah, I'm having another baby and I decided I don't want I just can't spend the money every month on a studio and I would rather work at home or something. Like why is it a net? Why is it a negative as yeah, by the way, so not pregnant like so not pregnant she is. No I'm just kidding. I'm just fat. You know my God. No. Yes, I am. But anyway, the point is no so not Knocked Up and very happy to be done. And yes, I had a moment where I was like leaving the studio and I actually said to I had my husband and my dad take the sine of junk. So I was like I can't do it. I was going through a bit of a period where I was like, I have to mourn this almost. Yeah because it was like what you do because it's such a massive transition a huge, you know, and I went through a Mourning period where I was like a bit upset. I got teary a couple times and then I was like and then I started like getting rid of stuff in the studio and it started feeling good. And I started it was cathartic. And as of today the reason I'm telling you all this is because as of today the last little bits of gone and we're about to give the keys back and I'm going to save almost 2 Grand a month. Yeah, and and the weight from that I didn't realize slowly. It had become a weight. It hadn't become a benefit in my life. It had slowly become a negative and it's something that I just I don't know. I just wanted to say like reassess your life. Maybe there's something in your life that you don't realize has become. Yeah a weight and on you and something On your shoulders like it's going to be so much better now. So I'm really happy about that. Good. Yeah, I just wanted to share one has to do what's right for them, man. Yeah, exactly. Also, I think exactly that's my opinion. So it's been good and I'm feeling good, and I'm I don't know. I'm just the have high hopes for us and from we're up to and you know, it's going to be it's going to be a good year. No, you're so positive. Yeah. Well, I try I'm definitely not but wow, you know, I'm the pessimist in this. She's the past relationship. I'm The Optimist. What are you going to do about it? You want to talk about the news? Yeah. Okay. So in the news Express dot Co dot u k OK and here we go. Another Royal Wedding is on the calendar another one another one. Okay, Lady Gaga. Gabriella Gabriella Gabriella Gabriella would think I don't really know have ever and Thomas Kingston the fifty first in line to the throne. Well, he's so what you're saying is he's practically can I ask whoever listens and knows all about the Royals. Does it really matter to point that out? That their 51st in line like they're never going to make it I would have lost count by that like they're never going to make it. So does it matter I would have stopped counting at 14. Yeah, and really why like, I don't know. It's stupid the whole funding these things. It's a little much. Is he the one like funding these things are they are the taxpayers paying for this one? I don't know who's paying for it. I mean anyways now here's the catch. If the Duchess of Suffolk now, which one is that Megan? Okay. Thanks. We're to attend the wedding. She'd likely be just about to pop and her presence could take the attention off the bride. Mmm. In addition if Megan goes into labor at the time of the nuptials. She is likely to steal the Thunder from Lady Gabe Gabriella's nuptials. Hmm. So here we go with throwing Megan under the bus again. Yes. Is it right to attend? Well, maybe Milady Gabrielle. Gabriel at what other fucker name is should just move her wedding. Like I don't know. Why would she want it for wedding just like she can't move her freaking due date Albert baby. So so they don't go no big deal. I just okay. Is this really like obviously, this is like a gossipy. I don't think this website where they like, I don't think it matters. It doesn't matter. It's a wedding Lisa so we talk about it. No, I didn't mean I mean in the sense that like I would say fuck it invite her and it is what it is. She's about to have a baby. What are you gonna do criticize her for going into labor? She get closer cervix people. Can I just say hmm. Megan is going to steal the Thunder from everybody. Just get over it. I know I was thinking that it's like if you don't have one of those people who's very well-liked. Yeah. She's very much admired. She's gorgeous. And and I she wears in her defense. I've never even heard of Lady G. Like I don't know what even know who she is. I mean, we're officially shortening this Megan. I know her yeah, lady G not so much. No, I know Lady Gaga, but I don't know lady. So, you know, I mean is it why is it such a thing? I don't think so. I don't think basically if you don't want your thunder stolen don't invite her in the first place pregnant or not. Is that pretty much what we're saying? I just think people need to accept that. She's just very well-liked. Yeah and admired and you know what she's going to still Thunder no matter where she goes or if she's pregnant or not. So that's all I'm saying. You might want to get over it because you're 50 first in line and I'm thinking you don't stand much of a chance. Anyways, so the fuck. Oh, yeah. I wanted to just give us a quick update here as well. We had someone write in about not such a good wedding song. So remember how last week we Talked about I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For by you too. Yeah being the groom in Brazil walking into that song and of course not knowing what it means because it's English. Yeah, so we had a note here from Fiora and it says hi Lisa and Rebecca the story about the Brazilian groom entering his wedding on I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For made me remember a little story from some years ago at the time. My boyfriend was still studying. And since he was very good at making videos and had access to good equipment and he was earning some money by doing montages for weddings one time. He was filming a video for the Alig wedding montages wedding montages. I like it because I get to sit and eat I just like it because they're funny. I just like it because I get I like to laugh at them and I don't have to photograph during that time. So I'm like, oh I get to say I do usually hurting you get the reaction. Yeah. It depends on you know what it was Rebecca. It depends on how much I've gotten. Yeah the night. And how much my back is breaking at that plane. And yeah, I hear you one time. He was filming a video for the party of a future wedding. He didn't have any artistic input and therefore spent an entire afternoon filming those friends literally trashing the bride and groom's apartment while they were out of town because they thought it would be funny. Oh my God, I'd kill them. Seriously. I'm talking food everywhere. The bride's underwear everywhere. It was gross. They did clean afterwards but But they didn't tell him they were going to until the very last minute cut to the Montage part. He chose a nice song That Wasn't well known and the quote friends threw a fit demanding a more famous song regardless on how it would fit with the images and refused every other proposition. He made finally they decided to choose the song themselves and I'm not kidding. They chose love is gone by David Guetta just in case it's not known outside of France. It's the song and then she put a YouTube link, but I hope the title gave away. That it is not a good song for a wedding my boyfriend just gave up. I don't blame him and delivered. The Montage got paid washed his hands of this shit show. I think it was actually the last video he ever made. Oh my God fucking ruin him. Obviously, we weren't invited to the wedding. But oh what I would have given to be able to see the poor bride and groom's faces when during the wedding dinner their friends got up and said we made something for you to celebrate your love. Boom their apartment trashed in front of all, the guests are panties everywhere and love is gone resonating in the room. That's horrible. That was a little story I have more for you, but those would require me to be anonymous. So they'll wait a bit. Oh my God. I love it. Love you guys. I love the podcast. Keep up the good work From Paris With Love Fiora. Thank you for your you are a doll. That's that's great crazy animal. It's great and terrible. That's so bad guys. Don't do that to your to your Friends, I would be so mad. I would be really fucking like anybody goes into my drawer. Hmm. That's like the time that I was moving and we had everything packed up almost except for like the bed. Yeah and the movers did I tell you this no and the movers picked up my mattress off the floor and underneath the mattress was like a box that had been opened yet, and it was edible underwear. I've never had a pair of those and they they looked at me and I looked at it and they looked at me. It's like well who's gonna pick it up? Like it was one of those? Oh funny and then and then you guys all been for it at the exact same moment. Yeah clunk heads like three stooges. It was so awkward. Oh, that's great. What flavor? I don't remember too bad. Yeah, we should sell those on the website. Yeah slow edible underwear. Oh my God, this is so fun. So Secret Life embarrassing right down the landing strip area right there. I was embarrassed. I don't know why because I'm not usually embarrassed by stuff like that. No, you should just Rebecca looks. And goes huh? Look at that. Yeah. So yeah, I guess I forgot one thing you should have said you should have said so whose is it and then are all big Burly man, you know probably because they were like older guys and I thought oh, yeah kind of like finding that in front of your dad. Yeah a little bit. Yeah, not so good. Anyways, that's great. So what's next? Let's start story listener story. Okay, cool. Cool. Cool. Is it mine? Uh-huh. All right. Okay story from listener. My favorite podcast ladies. Thank you. So time has come and gone for my wedding day. And although I'm crazy happy and loved that didn't happen without a shit show. If you choose to read this. I've changed the names to be anonymous my wedding day started really common peaceful. My photographer who I had been friends with for years had flown. Loan out from California to Tennessee to shoot my wedding and was not answering his phone. He was now an hour and a half late. Oh, that sucks. I had loaned him my car since I would be gone for my honeymoon and he wouldn't have a vehicle for the remaining time. He had in Tennessee to visit other friends mistake. I have no pictures of the getting ready process, but whatever not the end of the world. So this is part of the problem of hiring friends. I think she knows I'm just rubbing salt in the wound at this point. Everything else is still pretty good until we reach 4 p.m. And I'm ready to put my dress on for pictures before the ceremony, except my mother forgot to pick up my dress the day before Oh my God, that's a big thing to forget. I let her know. So no all okay. Wow, but inside I'm stressing the fuck out don't blame you my sister-in-law takes charge and goes to pick up the dress. No biggie. I got the dress within 45 minutes. It's so no harm. Wow. She's rolling with it. Somehow the ceremony takes place at 6 p.m. And it's even more beautiful than I could have dreamed. Oh, the wedding is a huge hit other than this random drunk bitch spelling drinks on my dress and acting like a fool but it's up and she's like and it was my mom. No, she didn't say that but it's a party. So I just get out of her way. I have family from out of town. So I'm trying to get pictures with all that I can but my photographer once again is nowhere to be found. Let's fuck. Come on come to find out he's in the parking lot smoking a joint. Okay all for the weed but I'm paying you to be here. So I'm a little agitated. No big deal. We ended up getting the pictures when he came back from his 30 minutes smoke break again, whatever. I'm so happy. I don't even care. Oh, she's chill as fog. Yeah, no kidding. Not shell. We do a send off and drive away to what I thought was the most. Perfect day, I get a call about 20 minutes later from my maid of honor who is riding in my car with my photographer another bridesmaid and the drunk bitch. They they ran into a ditch right outside of the venue, but they tell me the car is fine. They just need my dad's info to help them get out and handle the situation. Oh my God. Don't call her my God. I'm not worried about it. They'll just pull it out of the ditch and it'll be fine. In my head, then I get another call from another friend who pulled up to Hell Drunk Bitch is unconscious and finally wakes up screaming at the top of her lungs that she is going to sue everyone because she quote only had one Margarita. Haha. Wow, my cousin who is a policeman gets to the scene and he tries to help her get out of the car since she's not all the way there. She cusses him out and tells him he can't touch her and that she's gonna call the her lawyer. So he lets go of her and she passes out. Out and face plants and gravel and now has busted her nose. Oh my God. This bitch is a wreck turns out they weigh more than ran it into a ditch. They totaled my car. I'm a little angry at this point just a little girl. Oh, but drunk, so I don't know how bad this actually is. It's 2 a.m. And I'm exhausted by the whole day and just want to go to sleep get another call from my mother. My photographer is in jail with a DUI. She says, oh my God, this is a new one. We haven't doing this for a year and a half and we've never had a photographer DUI. No, thank God. I'm trying to be rational. But what the fuck dude also in her car? Yeah exactly. This is so fucked and her friend drunk bitch gets knocked out by my maid of honor and that is the best thing to happen all night. Oh my god. Oh man maid of honor for the win. Okay. I had a wonderful time on my honeymoon. But now I'm dealing with a huge mess turns out drunk bitch. She's Indian called my dad racist because he saved the last cocktail at the end of the night for me rather than letting her have it. Wow, that's not cool grabbed. My Mother's Day. Tits and shook them twice. Hello. Hello, Mom nicely told my husband's grandmother who 77 years old to come and get turnt with her after the wedding and they could have some fun. What does that mean? I'm old. We're drunk. Turnt mean. Yeah drunk. Okay grams is conservative as hell. She cussed out my brother-in-law and shook her fist at him. Well, it's kind of like the the old man get off my lawn. She yeah. No for taking us cussed him out for taking us away because quote the party wasn't over overall. I'm just laughing at the whole night and glad everyone is okay, but drunk bitches, officially no longer invited anywhere else. Hope you guys enjoy my story. I love listening to you guys every Tuesday kisses and hugs. No, thank you so much for your story. That's so funny. That was epic the she needs to get some help that woman. Yeah taking people's tits without asking that's just not cool. I mean well like a good tip Shake. Yeah, but it's like time and place people maybe not Grandma. Maybe not Graham or no is Mom. Sorry. 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The only snafu was the almost a hundred year old Something Borrowed bouquet cord Hit the Floor during the you may kiss the bride kiss, but the groomed saved the day with that one. So all was well, but but I have a bachelorette story for you guys. Mmm. So for context of the story changing names and locations for protection of the innocent the bride's side of the party consisted of bride who we will call Bobby Joe. We call her BJ Bobby Joe whatever you can keep straight her sister the maid of honor who we will call Barbra Jean. I feel like a very easy. That's too many BJ. So you have to say, um, Gene our myself and three bridesmaids who we will call Beyonce Kelly and Michelle, that's hilarious. I love that. Okay, here it goes. King of a long one kind of a long story king of Longwood King of the long ones. I being the mom of the group was the designated. That would be a good porn name right King of the long ones. I being the mom of the group was the DD for the weekend DD's degnan designated driver case. Anyone doesn't know which everyone knows is everybody listening to this podcast is wicked drunk right now. Yes, we booked a suite at a winery that Bobby Joe hinted to us early on that. She would like to visit. We planned a few wine tastings and we bought tickets at a night club nearby to see a band that the Bridesmaids wanted to see hint hint the morning of our road trip arrives and we pick up Bobby Joe in our matching wine saying tank tops. Everything happens for a reason lling ha ha ha ha Hakuna Moscato. You can't sit with us. How mare low? Can you go? Hahaha cetera and we had to the first Winery the winery is gorgeous and we take lots of pictures and the lady officiating the tasting was giving us huge pores, like almost half a glass to taste. That's nice. Yes. Usually the only give you a little late. Mmm. I've never been on one of those actually, it's my it's my dream to do a secret life of weddings like wine trip in Niagara. I don't like wine. Well, we can get it down and I just thought it'd be pretty yeah me being the DDA could only have a tiny sip of each glass. So Bobby Joe enjoying Girls day gladly drink the remaining wine from my glass. I'll help you. We proceeded to the next unplanned Winery stop as we were ahead of schedule and couldn't check in at the hotel for a few hours. We have lunch there after our tasting and get some more pictures and then proceed to our final tasting and the hotel to check in. We finish our tasting tour of the warranty where we are staying and Barbra Jean and I can tell Bobby Joe has a pretty decent wine Buzz going on and try and get Her to drink water we check in at the hotel and get the room all decorated and proceed out to the back patio area for snacks and relaxing and Beyonce Michelle and Kelly break out the jello shots. So funny Barbra Jean and I have one Jell-O shot and the others all have a few we all clean the cheese and grape tray clean and head up to our room to play pin the lips on the penis. Oh dear and if you drinking games, Barbra Jean and I keep a light Buzz the whole night. You know what we're playing that on our hundredth episode. It's official. Yeah ellipse on the penis. I'm going to spin you around inside this little tiny booth and shove you at the door. There we go at the wall. I like it'll be good. Is it a big penis, you know would be a funnier game to put like a ton of lipstick on and like almost do the same thing. But then you have to actually go kiss the wall and then wherever your lipstick color and I'm down wouldn't that be funnier? Yes, that'd be a wicked way to do it and really funny to take pictures of yes, I agree. When have the eye masks the Sleep masks to put over her eyes. There we go. I'm just saying I'm down. Okay. So for that wine get away guys, all we're doing all night. Is that there we go. Yep, Barbra Jean and I keep a light Buzz the whole night. I think we had a feeling in the back of our minds of what was to come while the other is especially Bobby Joe pounded back quite a few spiked Seltzer's and poorly but heavily mixed cocktails. We all get dressed up and ready to go out to dinner and the club when things started to Rapidly go downhill. I found that my sweet baby boy had pulled my Romper out of the suitcase the night before while I was packing and I must not have noticed until that moment. Luckily Barbra Jean had an extra dress and we are the same size. We were finally able to find a lift big enough to fit all of us in the remote area of our hotel. We went downstairs to meet the driver and took what would end up being our final selfie of the evening in the elevator. We get into the minivan and greet our Lyft driver only to find out The only word in English he knows is hello. Oh, is it the say? Hello? Yeah. Hello. Hello side know Bobby Joe is very much a lightweight Drinker and even when she is completely sober gets carsick very easily. Oh fuck so we are about two minutes into our 20-minute lift ride and Barbra Jean and I noticed Bobby Joe looks a little green and quickly rolls down her window for are she keeps saying I'm fine, but then proceeded to open the car door as we are pulling haunted the express. Sway as Barbra Jean and I are yelling at the driver who can't understand us to pull over my got why wouldn't you just peek out the window? Yeah, he finally pulls over and Barbra Jean jumps out of the car to help Bobby Joe who is bent over the guardrail puking. Oh, no after he's going hello. Hello, after three more incidents like that. We make it to about my God. It's like by the yeah. We make it about four blocks before the restaurant went Bobby Joe starts pleading to get out and walk. We thank the driver and say we will walk the rest of the way. We make it to the restaurant and Bobby Joe drinks a glass of water as we wait for our table and nibbles on some bread when we are seated suddenly. She gets up and says I'm going to the bathroom I had to go to and said I'm right behind you. Well, let's just say we made it two feet from the front door and she bolted outside and all. All of the water and bread she just ate came back up all over both our feet and all over the sidewalk of the main strip. Oh, no wine is nasty when you get too much Nu is yeah nasty a group of guys from what I would assume was a bachelor party walking into a strip club behind us starts cheering and hooting and carrying on and whipped around and told them sorry and I whipped around and told them to fuck off and get a life as her sister came outside. Oh no. We discussed with Bobbi Jo and decided her condition was now very bad as she was not keeping anything down and we were going to take her back to the room and the other girls could go enjoy dinner and the club I go in to tell the other girls. We were catching an Uber and going back to the hotel. They immediately started whining and bitching and we're like she needs to sit down and drink this ginger ale and eat some bread. She will feel much better. I put my foot down and said, she said she wants to go back and we are going with her you guys. I'd say and enjoy yourselves and the show it is the worst thing when you're feeling that said. Yeah the worst all you just want to do is die and you don't want to do that and no they reluctantly followed me out of the restaurant and to the Uber which was a wheelchair rigged minivan with no seat belts on the back bench the girls immediately start complaining about the Uber and we said, okay then let's get another one and they were like, nope, it's fine. It's fine. That's one of the women it's fine. Yeah, it's fine. Bobby Joe is tirelessly apologizing for being sick to the girls because she's picking up on their attitudes while her sister and I are texting back and forth about how childish and careless. They were acting mind you her sister and I are both three years younger than these other girls. Wow, which one is the bride again? Is that Bobby Joe? Yeah. Yeah all poor thing. We traveled the several blocks to the expressway. And as soon as we hit the expressway the Beyonce Michelle and Kelly start bitching that they should have stayed and gone to the club. And how much they wish they'd stayed and seeing if they would have enough time to ride back before they cut people off just seriously unbelievable behavior from people who are supposed to be the bride's best friends Barbra Jean and I both told the driver to stay in the right. Most Lane as Bobby, Joe will be getting sick at least once all right back the driver proceeds to ignore our request then one can only say goodbye. Yeah and moves into the Verlaine Bobby Joe quickly rolls down the window for some air and we scream at the driver to pull over and before he can even get into the right lane Bobby Joe pukes out the window leaving some residue on the window and door the driver starts yelling and whining how he has to get the card read detailed now and we were like we don't want to hear it. We told you we pull up to the hotel and Bobby Joe is in tears at this point and the driver who is quite a large. Man Stomps around the car and looks at the door and throws a full-on hissy fit about he how he can't drive anyone else tonight blah blah blah and that he's putting a complaint into Uber who is going to charge us a hundred dollars for a car wash for his car. I walk they do do that. Do they really? Yep. Oh dear. I walk over and not my water bottle down the outside of the passenger door and wipe it down with the sleeves of my sweater and say there's your damn car wash now piss off. For you. Yeah, we walk Bobby Joe into the hotel and I look back and see her sister give the driver some cash, which I later found out was a hundred dollars to get his stupid rickety-ass bucket of bolts van washed from the Teensy amount of spit up that Bobby Joe got on it going to say how much can this girl possibly have left? Yeah. So really not much now, but they do like to do that. The bride's bitches continue to bitch and moan throughout the rest of the night came the next morning. I'm still Not every time I don't like Bridesmaids in a story they're going to be Brides bitches. Yep. I'm down. We ended up skipping breakfast and stopping at Wawa on our way home because Bobby Joe insisted on buying us all coffee and something to eat because she thought we were all mad at her for ruining her bachelorette party. How fucked up is that this matter in which her momzilla totally played into and told her she had to pay for the hotel and the club tickets. We didn't get to use I took them back. Back and drop them all off at Bobby Joe's parents house, which is where I picked them up from the morning prior and they all pitched about that because they thought I was going to drive all over town to drop them off with my six sister-in-law still in the car. Yeah. I don't think so. I kicked them out of the car and picked her up some Gatorade and soup and took her home and sat with her until she held down liquids and food and my brother-in-law came home. Can we just say bachelorette party from Hell anyways. Like the story. I'm an aspiring photographer trying to get into the photography game in the next few months. So this is bad episode for you all over her dreams. I would greatly appreciate any pointers. You have to offer live podcast one can run to get hurt with the new episodes. Thanks again. Oh my God. Okay. First of all, we're sorry. I forgot about that part. Okay of the story are cynical old bitches. Just don't even don't even mind us. Listen, honey. I don't even mind. I'll write you an email. Don't worry. Yes, Rebecca's got you. Listen, you'll be fine. As long as you love it. Yep. You'll do great. Yep. Second shoot help out other people. Yep, make friends in the industry. These have a good website. Great website have a social. Yeah, you're all about making. Yeah. See I have a totally different. I don't believe in making friends in the industry. Oh, you have to know but you prefer work back and forth to one another. No, I'll make a couple friends. That's it. Yeah, I'm just And it's gone well for me, but I guess this is the introvert extrovert way if you're an introvert do what Rebecca? No, no, I would did make friends in the beginning. Did you? Yeah, and it didn't go with a disservice. I'm sorry. Yeah, so my overall has been good. Let me just say some photographers are dicks. So they're not there to help you whatsoever. They don't care about you some everybody or dicks. I think exactly right. All right, so thank you again for that email. That was amazing and good luck in your photography career. We hope to hear Lots about it and hope it's awesome. Hmm. So we are going to read now the last part of our mama drama Saga because oh, yeah, you know, why not part 3 of 3 I am curious if anybody went and found this one. Oh, you mean to read ahead yeah, somebody asked me on social media they said I can't remember who it was but they said does Rebecca read ahead in the Saga because I'm dying to know when I said she totally does at least see her but she totally does. I know it all I might have been on patreon because we were reading that other long story. Yeah might have been on that one. Oh my God. What? I got muted. Okay, we'll talk about that in a minute. We're going to talk about that after okay Rebecca got muted in a Facebook group. And that's for a silly reason. But any who will talk about that in a minute, so part three of our Saga here. This will make me get kicked out. Watch this. Sorry. Go ahead. We left the gifts at the venue along with the car as we were drunk and went home. I had nightmares about the wedding all Long my husband took pity on me in the morning and went with father-in-law to retrieve our things long story short and I'm blurring the details for anonymity. We got robbed overnight. What? Oh, fuck thieves broke a window to get into our car to and stole amongst other things. My husband's favorite pants while damn it. You know, what there's nothing like your day just does not get worse than when your favorite pants are stolen. Okay, you know what though? I would be I have favorite pants. Yeah, and I would be I would lose my mind. What are you so mad are you told them? What are your favorite pants? My favorite pants are the ones I wear to work which are what they're from Banana Republic. They're just like a loose cute pant with black. Yeah pockets on the side. I love them and it's so funny because when I bought them on like I should buy two and I didn't and I went back to go get another pair and they were sold out. Don't make them anymore. There was like just this one time thing of course, of course, right? So now I'm like because you lie God if anything happens these pants, I'll lose my mind. It's because you liked them. So the moment they got worked out Rebecca loser likes them fucking cut that shit off right now, right? Yeah no more. I'm not making any more pants. Yeah, you know what take pants out entirely none. I feel this pain. I feel this pain of this I do favorite pants are pay. Yes. I feel that this is good. They were my favorite pants to his butt looked. Ting thieves broke into the venue took some of the venue's outdoor furniture and all the gifts and cards. Wow. So wow, so their cards were left overnight. So guys never leave your money anywhere overnight. That's not like in a safe. Whoo. We hadn't even unwrapped them yet. I've not been able to send out proper thank-you notes. That sucks. Thank you. We didn't get anything. Ha ha ha the venue. Thank you, but I have bad news. The venue was a small nonprofit Community Hall who was cooperating fully with the police investigation. We had underway they done all they could in terms of security and were in no way responsible. We were working on the issue with them insurance and police it was being sorted. So it was already a miserable morning for us when my mom and dad showed up at our house. They hadn't given us their gifts last night and we're bringing them around my bridesmaid / BFF. Was also there she'd been roped into hugging me while my husband fix the car mom acts like absolutely none of her tantrum last night happened and I thanked them properly for the gifts because sometimes it's easier to drop that then pick a fight, right? Oh, I definitely wouldn't know you mean you wouldn't my grudges Gogi. What are you a tourist like me? Nope Capricorn? I know you're not I know they'd seen the broken car window on the way in and we outlined what happened. And how her throwing a fit and leaving was inappropriate and not helpful. I'm proud to say I didn't swear or yell, but I did use what has now been dubbed my scary ice voice. She looked shamefaced when she left my husband got to work on fixing the car window because we plan to leave for a road trip honeymoon the next day. I did nothing of any value that day and it was glorious till I get an email from my mother. She's like, oh you're having fun. Hold on. It was a copy of an email. She'd sent to the venue. She had not been involved in the venue planning part of the wedding. So I don't know how she got their contact details. It was not a polite email. It was about how they had failed her how the wedding was tainted due to their negligence. She'd written a personal Victim Impact statement and given it to the police. Oh my God. She also had several unrealistic suggestions to stop others being hurt the She was think 24-hour security guards at a tiny Community Hall by allowing my car to be broken into the venue had ruined my honeymoon as well as destroying my wedding. Can you imagine this poor Community Hall coordinator getting this email? She would have died. She was going to take this issue as far as she could. She even insinuated that the hall was in on it. I was so angry. This wasn't her fight. How dare she Co-op my Misfortune my reply all was again ice cold. I told the venue that my mother was in no way speaking on behalf of myself or my husband. We were happy with the service. They had provided and while this was severely unfortunate it wasn't their fault. Mom wasn't behaving rationally. No one with any right to assign blame was blaming them. They should feel free to ignore her suggestions and threats and should probably just delete any future emails from her the good for them like standing up and yeah and was like guys ignore the crazy woman. Yeah writing you right now. I think the once again at the end of the day, it's not the venue. So it's actually their fault. It's because they didn't take the cards home. Yeah. Yeah, like the whole broken into the car. That's just unfortunate. It's no one's fault. No, but the whole breaking into the venue even like they you know what you're taking your gifts home, but I think they accept that for sure the venue responded and thanked me they had been concerned like a so my mother responded with insanity and vitriol. Basically, she doesn't need my permission to verbally attack a small nonprofit Community Hall on my behalf. Of course, this was about her. She was the mother of the bride and her feelings and opinions were important. She had a right to be mad at the hall. They had convinced me that she was to blame for the robbery. And that was why I was abusing her when she came round earlier that day. Wow. She's out to lunch Jesus. Her daughter would never say that her behavior was inappropriate. I must have been misled and confused by the venue that evil then you also how dare I abuse her in front of company my BFF, how dare I be so disrespectful in front of people. She came to me with gifts and hand and I had rejected her once again by saying she wasn't allowed to write a victim impact statement about my robbery just like I'd rejected her at the wedding by not spending time with her or making a big deal about her mother of the bride status. I was obviously not going to do anything about the egregious betrayal done to me by the hall. So she had to step in and make sure it was done correctly. How dare I make her look like a fool in front of everyone saying she didn't know enough about the situation. Comment she knew more than I did about it. Oh my God. Okay. Okay, Mom. I moved all correspondence with her to a different folder drink another bottle of wine and had a new cry my husband fix the window and we went on our honeymoon almost as scheduled where I didn't talk to her at all which led to vignette number one in my first pose. You're all caught up with my wedding. It was about six weeks ago and I still have nightmares about the whole situation. Dad is now saying he Not too many years healing the Rifts people have made with Mom and he's getting old. So it's someone else's turn now, he does not mean mum, he means me after all she's old and not likely capable of change true older sister is still not talking to me younger sister is talking to me and seems to be firmly on our side though. I think she's still keeping things in about what happened at the wedding. Wow. That was a good one. That was Saga it was a pretty good song. Uh, it's outcome other is batshit and for know I know and for more batshit craziness go to our patreon. Yes code or patreon for additional episodes. We want to thank our new patreon members Ashley H. Read a be Samantha F. Just sent to F A me a rose F and Kelsey a again patreon.com go there for well. Actually you have to go to patreon.com slash secret life of running. So that's the URL. To get extra episodes first fewer free and you can help support the show and get more drama for your llama. Cool, write a rap ready go. I'm a wedding photographer and that one wedding the bride went to put on her dress and it didn't fit. It was a corset back with the flap that pulls across under it but she had gained weight and the flap didn't go all the way across her back anymore. She was flapless her mom started hysterically yelling at her daughter saying she warned her. She was getting fat and should have stopped eating so much. I hate the word fat either way. No, the bride is in tears and mortified. I had to kick the mom out of the room and take control of the situation. Luckily the hotel Sheets Were A close enough Ivory. So we cut a piece from the sheets be used as the fabric under the corset threading and it was possible. I kept a mom away from the poor bride all day. Oh that's such a good solution amazing for you. We went from a drunk photographer to one who's killing it above and beyond. Yeah. Go and Beyond love it amazing. That is so fabulous. Yeah, I like it hate the fat shaming the pisses me off and I think the word fat I know is that why you snapped at me earlier when I said I was fat. Yes. I don't I don't like people calling themselves fat. I don't call people fat and I don't think the word fat should be used agreed. I hate that word. We need a new word such a disgusting word will just make it fabulous instead. Yes, we'll replace the T with It'd be less if I'm fat tabulous. I'm fat tab. No, just get rid of the T and time. Yeah. Hey, I hate the word. I'm fabulous. Anyways, it's good. So don't forget to go to secret life of weddings out calm. If you want some merch we haven't taught talked about our Merchants a long time. Yeah, I still have to buy a t-shirt. Yeah, because there's t-shirts there is kind of a lot of everything but we've got our Whispering girls on there. So if you want some cute merch and to represent A little bit. Yeah for the screams. We actually just passed two thousand members in our Facebook group. That's cool, which is amazing. Yeah. So, you know our group is awesome unlike other groups. Okay. So Rebecca, you do tell us what happened to you on the Facebook. Yes to be fair. I'm in a lot of groups, but I don't I don't always read the rules. Nobody reads the rules. So it was funny this picture find out the hard way you get banned or muted right? I got muted and it's so funny because I've never been muted. It hurts doesn't I've never been kicked out and I've never been muted kind of stings doesn't it was kind of like well, what did I do? Yeah, I know. I know it's so funny and it's such a foreign thing to me that I went into our group chat on Facebook. Yeah that we have with some of our mods and I said, hey is this group working for anybody else because mine's not working you're soaking their like A fucking mute. And then I look at the top of the page and it says you've been muted like you've been muted for 24 hours or whatever. Are you back yet at like three something today. I'll be back. Okay. Yeah, I'm counting down the minutes, but I was little peeved. Yeah, tell them why okay, I was a lot peeved actually. Yeah because I Jen I don't I don't post anything in there. No, I just kind of like I'll skim through it. Do you want to look at group? It was I don't know why I'm gonna get kicked out now, which whatever I don't. Care, that's it. I'm wetting shaming. Yep. The is that the original Grille is that not the original grouping? Not the original? I don't know. Actually, you're still in here. I got kicked out and banned from the original groups. Yeah, I like the other one. Which one is the one you go? I'm so curious. Which one did you get muted on now was it that's it. I'm wetting shaming. So not the non-band happy. Yeah, not that one. I'm still in that one. That's the good one. Yeah. Okay, so I got banned and you've been muted. Yes. Haha. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Do you know why? Why someone posted a picture of like a spiral ceremony setting so have the chairs going in a spiral which I thought was really pretty. That's actually cool. Yeah, and a lot of people I was reading the comments because I thought oh, that's so neat. I've never seen that before and I've been doing this so long, right? Yeah, and I was looking at it and I saw like are you know, everyone was shooting on it? Of course because that's what you do in there and I was like whatever teach their own but then a lot of people were saying how you can't even get Photos bubble butt and I thought yeah, you can actually you can get really great photos because you have every perspective 360. Yeah, so I trimmed in as a wedding photographer sure and I just said I actually loved it and I saw that you sent me screencap was like seven people agree with your some. Yeah, and I said I loved it and I and it's actually I put in Brackets. Why don't we talk over here? You can actually get all perspectives. It's actually pretty cool. Right and I got muted for that. How dare you not be as a he know why I got muted why? Why because I went and read their terms the rules because I was like, I don't understand. What did I do wrong? Yeah, and it says ain't caught capitals. Shame things through number 5 rule. No compson commenting. Oh, this is so cute. I love it kiss hug kiss hug, or I had this and it was so great. I loved it blah blah blah. If you want to praise things or be positive or ask planning advice head to are connected group. That's it. I'm wetting praising. You're welcome to disagree and not find things shame were they Keep it to yourself. And then another one it says shame or get the fuck out. Wow. So that is a bitter bitter person who wrote those rules. They might have wrong didn't think that that's kind of it's a little much. I know a lot of our our listeners that are in that group, but guys that's a little aren't you afraid to say anything, you know, here's the thing. I'm all for wedding shaming in a funny way, whatever like spent for sure. That's what our whole show is but but at the same time you have to let people have opinions or else it's just like hate-mongering at some point. I feel like after I read that I was like, oh this group is not for me. Because I feel like it's just going to bring me to such a negative outlook. Well, then you're in there too much. There's something healthy about a bunch of people being like I actually really like it and then it's like you have one side guy like positive one. So why do you have to have a causative only or a negative only? Yeah like that non ban happy group. It's positive and negative. I've seen all kinds of policy it. Well, that's when you said to I said, but I see it all the time and now I realized it's because it's the other guy. Yeah, and I'm like, okay. So seven people agree with me. That's one way from a posted some people agree with me. Hey B. There's three other people that commented so I guess we all got fucking muted. That's that made positive comment saying I like it and shut the fuck up. Yeah, and I'm just like, I'm sorry. What happened to you as a child that you are so angry at the world message them and go who hurt you. Yes what to and you know what? I'm not judging anybody who hangs out in there. That's cool. Whatever if you dig the negativity more power to you, but I couldn't and I know our show can come across a negative 2 at times but oh my God, I have to I actually want to post in that group before I leave and just say what the fuck happened to you Rebecca just because I like to laugh at a Although getting shot out of it hitting a guy in the head and actually give you a stitches don't think I'm negative. But the problem is I think that my issue was that there shaming everything and everyone but you know, what's hilarious they don't allow body shaming. It's you can shame everything else in the world. But I swear to God if you call that woman fat you're out of here. Is that the fucked up it's fucked up because body shaming is fucked up no matter what you do, but at the same so you can call people pieces of shit. You can tell them that they're disgusting and their trailer trash, but you cannot call them fat but don't you dare comment on their body even comment on their clothes their weddings their loved ones their children, probably yes, but you can't comment on their Yes. Yeah, it's a yeah double edged sword. I don't know am I wrong? No, you're not. I've actually spent a little too much time thinking about this. Yeah, I'm going no, but just come to the other one just comes I am in the other one and I like the other one and I'll comment and stuff in that one because I like that one. I wouldn't deserves your but this one. I just had it just it was in my feed. Right so I went and read it and I was just like, okay, but I was like, okay, hold on you guys you guys are kind of if your opinion is Li like intelligent, yeah, I hate to be a dick but to say that you're going to get awful photos and that know you're deadly wrong. The problem I have is your you're not allowed to have an opinion. Yes, when you're not allowed to even have a fair opinion in a group. They had a problem with a rule comes up in my opinion. So basically I have to go there in there and shit on everything and everyone even whether you feel it or not. Yes, and then that's it. Yep. So shit aren't shit on everything or get out. Yep. Should our get out. Well, I'm taking it out because I don't know I feel like shitting on everything and everyone. I'm going to follow up with you on this next week and make sure you've left this group and that you're coming. I am leaving. Are you I feel like I need to like fucking poke the bear before I go. What are you gonna do? Like post something put up a post about how beautiful something is and how gorgeous? Yes, so I'm going to say go fuck a unicorn or some shit. Like, what's wrong? What's wrong with everybody? Hey, fuck you that poor Unicorn. It's not everybody. I know there's a lot of we have a lot of Screams in there too, which is sure which I get that it can you say target market? It isn't it isn't dying. It's a whole other level in there. Actually, we've had a lot of people come into our group and just say it was too negative. Yeah, not our group the other groups like you're making negative comments just for the sake of it. Yeah, there's they're shooting on people just for the sake of it. Yeah. There's there's a line guys. We should only be told people know we'd well we do a little bit feel like when we do it's warranted. Does that make sense? Yes, yes, but see that's why I commented was all because it bugs me. I have my hand up. Yeah, can I say something? Yeah. Also if someone was like came to our group and said I disagree I respectfully disagree with you for these reasons. What do you think? I would do what I mute them. No, I won't have a discussion with them about it or I would say sorry. That's just what I put here. They're relying on the fact that that's part of the rules, but I'm like, why is that a rule though? Just because it's a rule doesn't mean It's not bullshit. I think we know that it's a cult. It's officially a cult. No, isn't it wouldn't be a calls. If you're not allowed to do this you only you can only do this. Yeah, that's a cult. Yep. You know turn around they're going to be given free personality test next week. You just watched. It's coming and then they're gonna let sit for the only reason I commented was cuz people kept commenting on how bad the photos will be would be and it bugged me because I'm like, you don't actually don't know what you're saying because I actually do know what I'm saying in that group who goes. Oh, well, I was going to do this. It was my dream, but I can't because the photos will be terrible and you just helped them I got muted for it. You're welcome. Well, I think that's wrong. I was president get kicked out. Yeah. Well anyway, maybe because I never comment you will be now. I don't even know why I was in there. I didn't know it was a rule well, I don't think many people do that's fucked. It is fucked. But you know what guys they get to they get to police that all the time. That must be really fun for them. Yeah. No, thank you. No fucking thank you. Don't come to our group if you're sensitive because we don't yeah, we're not exactly you know, PG fucking PG either like it's pretty like we got shit in there but no, but it's all and everyone's allowed their opinion as well. Yes. It's like some people like what we posted some people don't and that's okay IE turkey. Man, right this is just what we have. I've had people being like I need to see this turkey now. Yeah, so but we're not telling you to like it. Now you best like turkey man. If you say one bad thing about turkey Mega get the fuck out. That's it. Anywho. Yeah, I dunno why I didn't even want to mention their name because I don't even want to give them I know attention but go to the will make this a positive thing go to our group. Yeah, and we won't censor what you say. As long as you're not a complete dick. Yeah, you know Yeah, and believe me. Our bar is real low for that like you have to really be low to get in trouble with us. You basically have to be racist or homophobic. Yeah, one of those really bad. Yeah Gary's but yeah, other than that, we're good as long as you don't touch on that shape. We're good. We're good. We're all good place. Mmm. Well, thank you for listening to episode 82 of the secret life of weddings podcast and remember anything can happen I weddings and we will be here to tell you all about it. 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