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I mean, I guess you're going to be other York that weekend. Yeah, wondering how you were going to like say it. I was like, okay slowly getting into it. I was like what so humble? Yeah. Yeah. I know. All right, pretty cool about it. You know like, you know, the moment has finally come. I think what we're dying to know is all the details. How did you find out who is the first person you told? What was your reaction that sort of thing? Well, so anyways, you know, I was telling you I don't know how much I can't remember how much I shared, you know on the show, but you know, I think I kind of at least off are mentioned you guys know. They asked me to resign, you know, the Legends deal and I wasn't a hundred percent sure, you know. kind of maybe assume maybe it was just because of you know, everything going on AW never really You know connected it to maybe it's going to be a Hall of Fame thing because honestly, you know, a lot of people out there have actively campaign for their own induction into the Hall of Fame and you know and nothing wrong with that and you've never done that though never because I you know, I need time anyone's ever asked me like I just I can just think of so many people. You know that our that should go into the Hall of Fame that you know from from Generations past that haven't gone in yet, you know, and you know, it's important like for me it's important to see that a lot of to see those people go in while they're still around to you know, enjoy the induction. So so like I just always felt it was you know, what? And kind of and it's just not me. You know, it's not how I operate. You know. Hey do this for me. You know, what about me? We Mimi what about you know, so yeah. I got a call. I got a text from from Mark Chrono. I think people know who Mark is seeing him on Total Divas and other shows. He's ahead of talent relations, and it was just you know, hey, can we talk and I just assumed it was about the you know the deal though, you know signing my contract because I had you know, I had to FedEx package in the contract sitting on my table and finally called and he was like, I just talked to Paul and you know, WrestleMania is going to be you know, I can't remember the words exactly how he said and then he went you're going in the Hall of Fame and I just about shit, you know, and I just I don't even you know, then that he explained but DX and you know, everyone's going in Jody included and You know. and you Max not that I don't feel worthy because I do understand, you know, the things I've done in the industry and like in my career and all that but I'm just blown away by all of it, you know, and I was on TMZ yesterday and I mentioned mentioned I think I think I said this I definitely feel this when thought this you know up until this point was you know, I mean I've done things in my career, you know accomplishments and and that you know DX n wo yen in the Quake all that you you okay, you know eventually like that will happen but I wasn't sure I would still be around for it to be honest with you, you know because not everyone's going to make it to that stage. So Yeah, I'm just grateful. You really know the beard and yeah. You've already said, you know the fact that you're going in with the people that you had the most fun with in your career. And that okay? Yeah, thank you for reminding me that because you know, there are people in you know, as far as Joan he's concerned, you know, there's a lot of people that aren't satisfied with this and because obviously a nice and you know, you guys are pretty sure you just watch the TMZ interview. I did you know, and you know, obviously She is worthy of going in by herself, you know, and in a lot of people like this wasn't good enough and I just I would encourage them to take the win by, you know, sometimes you know, the wind doesn't always come exactly how you want it to but it's a win nonetheless. You know and anyone that doesn't think so. I just I don't even know what to tell him and also to be fair every one of you is probably going to go in individually but as faction DX, I mean it's years thing about that Johnny, you know, yeah, it's great you go in separately, you know should go in on your own I could give two shits sure about going in on my own I If you ask me what my choice is going my own or go in with like I said more than once the people that I had the greatest time of my life with. I'm going to pick going in with them every single time you ask me but it is a nice thing though that the fans do see that you know in yourself China and all of that because it's a nice thing to be recognized also, you know by the fans and for them to say that that's pretty cool too, you know, absolutely and and and I and I am put a tweet out about this I and I'm grateful for the sentiment. Okay, but The heart mean there's only so many slots every year. Okay, and there's so many deserving people as I've talked about like when we just started this conversation and and oh my God, like can we just enjoy an exempt? You know, they'll win. It's a win for for Joanie. She's going to be enshrined in the Hall of Fame and You know forever forever. They can never take that away from her and she deserves it and you know, it's that and even you know, I mean families I family's extremely excited to you know, and I don't talk to her mother. I haven't talked to her mother. I'm happy that she's happy about this. I did talk to her sister talk to Johnny sister. yesterday for quite old quite a long time and I hadn't talked to her and Many many many years. I got me in since since Johnny and I were together. It was the last time I talked to her sister Kathy. So and anyways, okay. Yeah, well people are excited. We're proud of you and you know, just by the reaction that people have given online you guys going in together. It's incredible and you guys are going to give an amazing speech and people are really excited for the whole thing. So congratulations has this like ever since hearing the phone call and had kind of hearing your name and hall-of-famer in the same sentence has that kind of made you go back and sort of reflect on your career and see different things like how they have you envisioned yourself already up on that Podium saying your speech all of that. Yeah, yes because you don't you don't want to forget to thank all the people that you know that helped you get where you are and there's there's so many because no one does this on their own no matter, you know, no matter what I get mean if you if you've been successful somebody has helped you along the way, you know. So yeah, and I'm just what was I saying? Basically you were talking about how how you were sort of reflecting back on your career? And how can you ride you want to forget anybody? Yeah, but no you I just thinking about DX thinking about all the things that everyone got to see and on the things that they didn't get to see that were amazing that we did, you know, all the fun. We had that went along with it the Just the interaction with the people the the amazing people that you know that we encountered along the way just and you know, and individually all that people like individual. I love every single one. I'm the people that that I was in DX with. Yeah and I can speak for my generation a generation of people who grew up, you know watching DX every Monday night. Like I'm sure you know this by now. But people would have like high school watch parties and college watch parties to watch. We'll have to see what DX was going to do this generation. I can't even tell you how all the memories are flooding back now and they're going to make sure they watch the Hall of Fame and God you should be just so proud of that because you really you guys really affected it a generation of fans and such a positive way. Yeah. I'm not positive. I mean depending on how you look at it. Really? I mean all the like all the parents and the children During that my kids went to school with when I would drop them off the they weren't positive looks they were shooting at me in depending on the age. Sure. Well, a lot of people were tweeting at you or spawning at you. How did that feel were there any surprises and he interesting stuff that occurred through there? Um, well, yeah. Well there was a lot just I mean from from you know, all different directions. I when they asked me on TMZ, I was on TMZ yesterday. They asked me, you know, hey, like who reached out to you and they were asking me about famous people reaching out or you know, if and they were asking me the name a few and I was like I draw I couldn't think of like, I mean there are people but like am I gonna have to go look at my Twitter feed? I can't even like there's so many little Johnny has good one. We got one tweet from Michael PS. Hey saying so glad that all of DX is going into the Hall of Fame. They deserve it long overdue. Hope I don't give xpac a receipt. I've got his hair dryers on the fame. Speech. Now I would never do that would I hmm? Yeah, that's all that's a receipt a long time coming if you ever get to it, so I'm a just and I'm grateful like I get along whenever I see Michael now like oh, yeah, we get along the we joke we laugh, you know, but I do know that in mentally I'm going to have my guard down and I'm gonna Company kit you still have long hair. Yeah, so I mean what's left of it? I still got a little bit but so but I don't know might have been about a year ago. There was I think it was Smackdown tapings and at the Staples Center and it was before the show. They hadn't let the people and yeah, there was still kind of going through production stuff and I was on the ramp talking to Road Dogg and I was just shooting the shit and all of a sudden you know, what Will somebody grab back my ponytail I turn around and it's Michael Hayes. He's like got you and goodnight. You have a pair of Scissors because I think I would've lost my ponytail. Yeah. Yeah. So thank you Michael for the warning Freebird rules, and I probably won't be wearing my hair in a ponytail during my induction. Speech. I might even wear a hat. Yeah, and you didn't say on Twitter that you had it on good authority that you weren't going to be having a long speech. Are you like at all like word that he wants? Like Shawn you said this after the Hall of Fame week you are going to be talking for a long time. If you ever got inducted. Like are you gonna tie it or how you gonna feel about that? I'll just say I'll have somebody like, you know, pull me off today's if I talk too long. So yeah. No, I do know that it's going to be much much more pleasurable looks viewing experience for people that are there, you know, because obviously I don't think I'm speaking out of school or like you know, when I say that some of the induction speech has just gone on ridiculously long in the past and like can at times sucked the oxygen out of the hold goddamn down you and just last year by the time Goldberg got to talk. Everyone was exhausted. Yeah, I might have two people are gone and like look, so I think it's going to be structured a little bit different. I just say that because I can't speak for dead. I'm not speaking WWE at all. Like I'm just saying what was told to me? See ya? Awesome. Awesome. Well, do you I wanted to ask you one more thing about this. I wanted to know if you celebrated in your own special way. I know Ron funches. Got you a cake. But have you had have you taken a moment to yourself to like really just kind of like Revel in it. Is there any cake left? No, I only had a bite actually just for the picture run at the rest now. Are you that we just couldn't yeah. I know neither one of us. He cakes are okay, but but not really, you know people like saying are we gonna have a celebration party and never been that thing really like, you know, like if somebody throws a birthday party for me, that's crazy to me like that. People are fussing over me or like it just seems like we're down Denise for next birthday. No birthday party Hearts not my surprise party surprise party, even when that's worse, so I don't Like I don't know. I'm just I celebrated in my in my head, you know, and my children are going to come see me inducted and that's really cool. It's amazing. Yeah, it's yeah, I mean it's just Screenshot of my son's Facebook page and like how proud he is of me and like you got to understand, you know, I went over for years without even speaking to my son or I'm speaking of me, you know, and we have a really good relationship now actually my son's going to be out here in a few days to see me. It's incredible. Yeah, it's going to spend. I'm about a week out. So I'm just you know, there's it's not that like, okay, I don't still have things I have to do to make myself better. But like I I've come a long way, you know and and healthy relationship with my children is like the number one indicator of that Above All Else above everything else and you knows you were asking me who I talked to who I you know, and you know, I called my girlfriend, you know, you know her what was going on and that but like the first people I really, you know called and got on the phone and told because they were such a huge part of me and then up here is Maria and Keven Maria Maria Menounos and Keven undergaro course. This is their Studio where an AfterBuzz TV and I wouldn't be Where I am in life right now without them so they were really like the one that I really wanted to share this with the most. I love that. Yeah, I guarantee they'll be there too. Yeah and I I was at the very first Hall of Fame ceremony. It was as a part of wasn't as a part of WrestleMania. It was in 94 and it was it was part of King of the Ring. And and it was shit. Look it up here. I think Chief Jay Strongbow Freddie blassie. Bobo Brazil, yep Nature Boy Buddy Rogers body Roger Milla Monsoon gorilla, and it was really cool. It was really cool to be to be there for that. So yeah now you'll be on that stage. Yep. All right, let's talk about something else. Okay. All right, we're gonna go ahead and move on so we have some big news as well. So on this past Monday Night Raw for big ending. Stars debuted including Ricochet Alistair black Johnny Gargano and tommaso Champa, which this kind of came out of nowhere has a big surprise. I wanted to know basically Triple H announced that at the top of raw and then throughout the show. They each had you know, they each had a magistrate has had a different moment. So I wanted to know what your guys thoughts were dark. if you're going I good stuff, but like a sum up but like I question like okay, man, I I wouldn't have booked Alistair Black versus Elias. I just on in my head before like even watching those two. That's not like a good mix to me to me their Styles don't mix as well as somebody else that could have put allister black in there with and his debut on you know on that, you know on that platform. I was you know in front of millions of people and it wasn't like it wasn't good but like, you know, It wasn't we didn't need to do that with Elias exactly, you know, and I thought it was a way better like that idea to put him in there with and ride you the last night. You know, I kind of felt like personally speaking that almost like you didn't feel as special mainly because the crowd wasn't really on there. I kind of felt like first not right on Raw. What's the Crouch laughing? They were the shit they were not into anything. I don't they should never go back. Yeah, and that's that sucks because like, you know, this was a big moment I caught. Okay, so like for me personally like seeing them all in different parts, there were some moments. I was kind of like, okay, like for example if with tomasa Champa, I was a little bit disappointed. Kind of see him, you know work as a face, you know, it was a little like, oh, you know, he was like literally the top heel in NXT and we know we've seen him do so much evil stuff and all of that so it's kind of a big shift for me and I'm wondering if maybe a lot more fans felt this way. Yeah, I didn't like get the I felt like it was jump a light. Yeah. It was almost like kind of like a movie trailer. Like hey if you have been watching NXT, this is what you should be checking. Going out every single week and it's almost it was like a reset button for Gargano and Shambo which those of us who obviously follow NXT. Let's just put this cold match out. There were these debuting guys and give them a win over these guys and like so you buy them like I just I get the sentiment and you don't like you want to give a big impact. It was just it just felt like here we want you to accept these guys and did it feel like Vince took like a three-day vacation with the way the map because NXT was Seated right for both night. Yeah. Yeah, and that's what it just felt like felt like okay. I already know the finish going into it. They're going to win exactly somehow like it because you're not going to just debut these great guys and just have him get beat like so I think it was good. I mean it was a better way of introducing them them some other ways. I've seen people brought up, you know, I kind of feel weird, right Like for me look all honesty like just speaking for myself. I prefer NXT call-ups to be a surprise to be out of nowhere to be one random person on a random wrong in a good city with a good crowd instead of kind of like all fours. Like hey, these guys are coming and they're all coming tonight. I rather have that element of surprise because and that kind of keeps you on your toes as a fan like, oh, you know, I'm gonna tune into raw this week because I don't know like I didn't expect for tomorrow. So Champa to come in next week you get me like, I like the different elements. I like the And a surprise one of the things that I think that no matter what these guys I feel are going to definitely get over on the main roster just because of their ability. So no matter what we're going to have that and I do think that I mean they said that they're going to have an announcement tonight on NXT. I don't know what the announcement is, but I'm thinking also that these guys moving on to the main roster does clear up a lot of space for some of the guys that have before we continue one of the ways we keep all these shows for you free is by our amazing sponsors. And today Spotify is one of our sponsors on Why you can listen to all of your favorite artists and podcasts in one place for free? 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So so it gives them a lot of opportunities now kind of looking at the broader scope of this I do feel like there's so much talent that you know on Rod now with these guys being called up or if I don't know if it's permitted or not permitted or whatever you want to say, but it's pretty cool to see see where they're going to go with this. I mean granted I would want to see Alistair black and a different storyline, but that's just me. I'm wondering if this is a an actual call up at all or is it just getting more people familiar with the stars of NXT to raise the awareness of the NXT brand because did anyone catch the interview Matt riddle did and the quotes he had about NXT being as good and the pot possible and XT could be better than the other two Brands. Did you guys see them you know that part but you did right? Yeah, and it's here's the thing on the top Mark if you can find it NXT obviously sells out all the takeovers and people generally love the takeovers sometimes more than the main roster pay-per-views and everything and and who knows what the move the fox there's there's always the rumor that NXT could end up on FS1. So maybe it's a gradual progression to that or maybe it could just be hey, let's get more people into the network. It could be a combination, but I'm with you I can't Them all being called up full time because we still have people like Lacey Evans and EC3 where people are totally confused about them. Yeah. That's the one thing is we have this debut these debuts from or these just uh, drawn-out debuts. I'm a fan of all of the people from NXT that have been called up for like extended lie, but the fact that it was a couple of weeks before we even saw some of those folks versus hey these people here tonight. They're all on a match and then they all win and blah blah blah. I thought it was interesting that for if They're debuting. Why did they still use the NXT graphics for them? Like the lower thirds and stuff. I think that's telling us to that. This is just sort of a temporary thing. I agree with you Sean. I have this Matt riddle quote here that he gave TMZ. He said funny enough. I was thinking about that the other day and I want to get to the main roster, but then I was thinking maybe I'm thinking about it wrong because NXT is so hot. Maybe we should stay and try to build an XT and make it bigger than Raw and SmackDown and just be the big guy which It's impossible. I don't think and he continued saying I think the big thing is Vince McMahon owns r on Smackdown. He owns everything. Those are his babies. He's had them forever. So I think the probability of actually taking over at that level is probably hard. But at the same time I don't see it too far from the future of us being on the same playing field as Raw and SmackDown and I do believe I spent a little bit of time at Fox Sports the way they're going to think when they see the kind of ratings that Smackdown brings into Fox they're going to say, oh give us more what else can you give us? Let's Come on, because FS1 I don't care how much money they have put into it FS1 struggles. They do not get great ratings. And so they're going to want to put stuff on there. Yeah. So what do a lot of people I know who have cable couldn't even tell you where FS 1 is regardless of how ESPN has struggled a lot of people still don't find FS1 unless they're a fan of Collin County Fair and even on the guy that's usually buried and playing some other Regional sports channels. Like yeah, unless you're a massive fan of State Colin Cowherd or Skip Bayless, which not many people. Skip but you're not going to tune into FS1 just to get your sports news sports center still has that you know if you have cable so I think they're going to be opening their arms like Hey What Can you give us an NXT may end up on every come by and and let's think about this to think about who's behind, you know, NXT who who are the like the decision makers who are guiding a lot of that stuff Sean. Michael's, I mean, come on hotter. Yeah, you know, give me those guys any day on my on my team and and the talent they have there and I'll put that up against Smackdown Raw any day of the week put us on the same Level Playing Field. Look at their team. You got Sara Del Rey you got Matt Bloom. You got Scotty 2 Hotty. I mean who that's a great Squad to learn from you know, so they know what they're doing. Yeah. All right. Well moving. Oh, so don't wait wait. So Ricochet who did Ricochet work with us on Ross and he tagged he teamed up with Finn Balor against Bobby Lashley and CEO Rush. Yeah, and what a great showing for Ricochet? Yes. It was. Yeah great. Right. Look, he's one of those guys that like, I'm you put them in there. No matter what, he's Gonna Shine bright automatically and like even with that like let's say the Casual phallus just say mom and dad they're not big wrestling fans. But hey, let's take the kids out to a Monday Night Raw. They're in town. They see a guy like Ricochet. They don't need to know a storyline. They literally just See him in the ring and that's the sort of thing that attracts, you know that type of viewer. So I feel like within that like just given with that. It's a bonus. I think plus seeing thin and Ricochet together two guys at five years ago. You never necessarily would have thought they would be in WWE. It's a beautiful thing to see them work together as well. And then you know Lashley and Leo having their issues that worked out really well. Yeah, we're kind of jumping around here because I mean, okay, you're sure you know, some like you're bringing up Lashley and Leo made me think. And I with the hell were they doing like, you know, I like to match the had a termination chamber, but geez, did anyone not see that like Leo Rush getting pinned for the title a mile and a half away. That's the only thing about that and then you know, why even bother like chokeslam and I'm or whatever the hell he did to Leo afterwards if you just going to show up with them the next day. Oh and understand that I can't be the only one complaining like for me. That's that's right. I know we're going to get into it later by myself. I'll just mention it now for me. It was just the whole stipulation of the match. Like why would you put Bobby Lashley in a handicap match when he is the guy with the whole Advantage? I mean look at him. He's a Powerhouse, you know, it's you know, it just didn't make sense to me. And I also think that it makes sense when you're trying to protect. Yeah, lastly from getting be but you want to get the belt off of but but still I just, you know, I think people see through that a lot of telegraph in there. It just makes you forget also, what an incredible Talent Leo Rush is It incredible Talent they have with him because in this position, you're sort of just seeing him as a sidekick as a manager. You want to see him to as his own respective athlete. All right. Well moving on we'll go ahead and talk about tide Dillinger tide Dillinger has requested his release from WWE. He posted a message on Twitter and on Instagram saying I requested my release from WWE and the past five and a half years with them. I have seen and done some wonderful things. He then went on to say that he has worked with great talent. He thanked everybody that this was a Very difficult decision for him but that he wants to show himself as a performer a little bit more of himself. And he basically just said Thank you understandable. He has a lot to offer. I don't think like it's going to be any like, I don't think he's going to show up anywhere necessarily immediately moved the needle, you know, but I could be wrong about that too. Well, you know and yeah and that but But she's got so much operand and he does have the support of the fans right? Like I mean, I see that around hot for a minute, you know, when he got called up, you know, you know people were interested in him and he was he was hot for a while actually and then just kind of out of nowhere just had it went it went it went downhill and then he was out with a hand injury since October 2018. He recently came back for a SmackDown on February 9th. So that's a pretty big gap. Yeah, and I I was mentioning before we started recording, you know certain people that want on them that are going to want their release. I think it is in the best interest of the company to let them go. I mean you do not want you know even one it when one person that's not content that's unhappy can really take the water supply Poison the Well, if you're if you know what I mean, you know and not even being to do it and I've been I've been that person at times like, you know your You're unhappy and it spreads its kind of contagious. So, you know, if they can come up with something they just don't see anything in the cards for you know, certain people. I think it's in their best interest to probably let them go but timing is interesting because we are at were I think we're very much approaching what 90 days before double or nothing. There's the whole 90 days and compete cause but I don't know if that has anything to do with it. But the timing is I just think though that perception is obviously so important. poured in and you know people have talked about this if you know people is like networks or something or seen that x amount of people want to leave the company, you know, that's going to start raising some red flags are going to start raising some question marks, you know, so I don't know like do they just let Pete the people that asked for the release has to go or just in case make it work or case-by-case if like I was just saying if they if if they just don't the decision-makers just don't see you know them figuring in like I think it's in their best interest to let them go but like, you know, the people that they can make happy that they can for example natively satisfy. Holy shit loose normally if the rumors were true the Revival wanted out well now they're tag champs. Yeah, if the rumors about the Usos may be leaving our true. Well, guess what now? They're champions again Sue. So I guess it's like you said Case by case depending on how valuable they feel the people are sure yeah. All right. One of the things we also wanted to talk about was after the elimination chamber Mark Henry's documentary The World's Strongest Man aired on the WWE Network Shawn. What did you think about it? Did you watch it? I didn't get to watch it. Sorry y as a as a big Mark Henry fan as a human being and and as a performer and a colleague, it was such a good job. Yeah, they they I mean good isn't even what a great job. They did on that W. He's production and for all of their documentaries there 365's their 28th there 24/7 is all of it has been dynamite and this one. I feel like they nailed and knocked right out of the park. What an amazing story of an of an amazing man. I know you are blown away by the fact he went back to the World's Strongest Man and became that once again after like a six or seven year layoff and the fact that we didn't necessarily get to see any of that. Work any of that struggle? We didn't know what Mark was going through at the time and they having Mark tell the story and not having like like they have with previous things have somebody like Bill Shatner like at this time Mark Danon blah blah blah and whatever but having Mark tell his own story on top of it and his friends like Big Show and DLo was such a gift. Yeah. Yeah. I'm honored worked with Mark and you know, Call my friend and you know back in and he discusses and in the documentary about his early struggles with the locker room and coming in and not you know, really, you know coming in at a time when no one was getting guaranteed money at all. And then we find out all this guy gets a seven-figure 10-year guarantee contract. You know that puts his balls ions on the on somebody's back, right? Sure. So yeah, so a lot of people they just didn't like they do you want to work with them, you know, they complained you know, and and that whole my God Louis Lula I call her Louis sometimes but she's suing her snoring and his the only girl on the break. What was I saying about Mark, you know not being welcomed with open arms. Yeah, and and you know you go the guys will go out there visible like cabinet working with him and I loved working with Mark Henry. I knew because I knew how to work with guys like you look at somebody and you go. Okay, he's good at this. This isn't his strong suit so we don't try that with him, you know, and and the same could be said for me there's things I'm good at things. I'm not good at and I just don't do the things. I'm not good at so, you know, that's what wrestling is all about is, you know, you take each other and you shine the things about them that are you know, we're shined and you protect you and you cover up the things that weakness isn't the chinks in the armor. So look there's a okay my I was talking to Mark at last that's TVs here and we were talking about a lot of things and how much we loved working with each other and Kane and I work with Mark and DLo on the over the edge pay-per-view though and passed away on and the match doesn't get talked about it all because it was on that show and you know, so the only thing people think about on that shows owns passing. So but we had a great match and you know, I had different matches with Mark, but my favorite was Handicap match that China and myself versus Mark Henry when Hunter was outside and then eventually like DLo came out and I suggest everyone watching is in me and not people were going off and it was a really good match. It was my honestly it was my favorite favorite match with Mark and his longevity has been absolutely incredible to and now he's an ambassador does tons of Special Olympics and Heart of Gold. Yeah, and he You know, he has a new job around there and it's kind of like a locker room and force her but that's not like I think what people might think that the wrong way but there's you know, he mentioned okay, there was a situation where you know, someone didn't want to clean up after themselves in the locker room and it's just like, you know, come on, you know, it's not that hard to pick up after yourself. Don't need to be a fucking slob in a locker room. So have a little pride and so, you know the next time you come and sometimes you're using other people's lockers like T, like sports teams locker rooms and like you leave their shit a mass and you know, so I mean I get it I understand that and I'm happy for Mark and it's great to have Mark around the you know, coming down the younger guys are sure and hey, let's take a break real quick. We'll come back and I want to keep I want to continue to talk about then XT call the call-ups and you know and what I noticed what stood out to me big time on the smackdown show concern. Okay. Alright, we're gonna take the chamber as well. Yeah, we're going to take a break right now. We'll be right back. We're back and we took a break. I don't even know why we took one knowing what no, one took a piss and no one when powder their noses basic housekeeping. Yeah, Lulu still sleeping anymore. I went over there and kicked her in the side. I'm just getting somebody's probably going crazy right now thinking I actually get that. Oh my God. I used to have one girlfriend that I would snort I have been a bad snore all my life. Well, not on my life. A lot of my adult life. One of the girlfriends used to plug my nose and middle of the night while I was asleep. And that's healthy or just you know, squirt bewl water. Just like your I can oh, I don't know what I tell you like the thing that really upset me was when I would wake up and you know, she'd be in sleeping in the other room. Like I don't know that one with that bad. Yeah. Yeah, but now I might you know, I just assumed sleep by myself to be honest with you. Like I don't know why I got off on that tangent. So about snoring right breathe, right? No strips. We're willing to take you on as a sponsor if you're interested. Holler at us. There you go. Yeah. So before we took that quick little break there I was going to you were here about Smackdown. Yeah and the NXT call up Sykes because Alistair black hat andreotti the next night on Smackdown which was an opponent. He had great matches with in NXT. So it was a really really good matchup and the you know, they were able to work that style. They work to NXT and other guys, you know coming out there and working how look what I'm trying to say is it was like you could until there was this big difference to me in the field of those matches and those guys with this cutting-edge style with different ways it going into things shit. I just got my cold brew on the floor. That's strong glass didn't even break shot at Starbucks. God damn it. No little woke you up. What was I saying? Okay princess. Yeah, and it just the way they go into things and and and then you go and you see the other guys on the roster that are just working that same kind of You know same routines same way shooting guys in its kind of felt all the sudden really Antiquated looking compared to the shit. I saw from the NXT guys. So what do you do? What should change? I think some of the other guys on the roster maybe need to step up and you know update their game. but do you think like that when you go out there and you're doing and that's essentially enough to keep you on the main roster essentially like how I don't know what we did you get comfortable in our routines exactly, you know, and and that's how it worked before you could see every, you know, like ever like wrestling from around the world and all the promotions and everyone has something online you can see and you know Back then, you know many years ago like you could do these routines and they weren't routines to the fans, you know, because they didn't see him as much right. So yeah, I just think that we get comfortable, you know, and and so it's time to shake things up a little bit. I think that's probably what there doesn't appear to have a bit of a log Jam of Talent on the main roster already and then you bring up these four individuals who are all really good. Good. Maybe it's a bit of a wake-up call for anyone who's on the main roster should be and I think it is and I think some people are seeing it that way like in the because I've read that. Well, there's not like a resentment. There are a lot of hey what's going on here? And there's our spot safe and you don't have a spot. Like your spot is like as long as you're like performing and like it's not like you're entitled to this spot and it's your spot from now on like you can lose that shit and a day. I really seen that to I know it's fine. I really like that theory Sean because we hear it every time a takeover happens at a major pay-per-view is that it puts everybody on their toes for the main roster show the very next day. What if it's taking that concept and bringing it to TV. We're at any And you know what? We're going to bring some folks from NXT and show them off on this show. So everybody better step up. Yeah. Well two things Sean on this show you have mentioned prior that I forgot who Our Guest was at that moment. But you said that you have to basically stand do a lot to stand out because there's so many people out there that can do incredible things. Yes. So when you have so many incredible things, how do you stand out and I feel like maybe that's something that it's kind of hitting base here. Yeah. I and it's not necessarily Denise. It's not necessarily like I've sent this before unless you're Ricochet, you're not like or a couple of guys like that. You're not going to be the best at what you do like technically like you can be the best flyer, you know, so it's the in between the moves stuff. You know that I mean all your shit has to be on point like your moves and everything has to be executed good well and and all that, you know, but that's not what's going to make you stand out unless you're a Ricochet or somebody at that level. Otherwise, it's the in-between Showbiz stuff that you do and yeah, and I think guys are just going to have to figure out those types of ways to stand out do you think because they were only six weeks from WrestleMania? Is there a shot of like These four individuals not only being on takeover, but also being on the Wrestlemania card. Absolutely. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, why not they deserve it. They were not incredible matches. So I mean that makes sense. Maybe there's going to be an NXT feature match at WrestleMania. There was a rumor that the 205 Live Match featured match was going to be a ladder match. But since the ladder match for the North American Championship was so Bonkers and dynamite last year. Maybe they put something like that on WrestleMania proper. Maybe yeah, very interesting. Ting do you want to move on to elimination chamber now? Yeah sure unless you unless there's something else a you know, missing week the rest of it ties into elimination here. I think but we can go ahead and kick it off with the Opening match, which was the Women's Chamber match for the Tag Team titles for the women. What were your thoughts on that? if I told you I would be I wouldn't be very be very genuine because I didn't really I didn't really I saw it, but I don't nothing really stood out to me except for the actual winning of the tag title and not that it wasn't a great match. But you know, I don't get to see every second of every show like and I'm pretty sure everyone knows that that follows this show you none of us do is hard. Yeah, so I caught the ending of the match you knowing into them winning and that was very compelling and I was extremely happy for them. And I'm assuming the rest of the match was really good too. It was it was for me personally. I'm being honest it was okay. I think the women have had a lot more better matches in terms of like their Rumble Match in terms of their you know, in terms of the Money in the Bank match has I kind of felt that this I'm not a fan of tag team Elimination Chambers because I feel at some point it gets cluttered by the time of the iconic Scott in it was just so much going on. There was a lot of unfortunate like Mist moment start. To come back to me now the knees as you mentioned in there you go. Yeah, so I just kind of felt there was a there's a root. Sorry to interrupt you, but there's a reason why I almost knocked it over again Bruce happen. It's the second one. So there's a little jittery here. No shit. Well, that's okay. See I see your point. I think all the teams had great at the ikonics were so fantastic. But yeah, it gets a little muddled but I think considering the circumstances They all handled it really? Well, I thought I just kind of felt it was just move after move after move didn't really get hot until Naomi and Carmela came in. Yeah, and then after that there was there was a few moments I did. I do have to say that the ikonics did I think shine really bright in this match besides Naomi and Carmel. I will say that but it just kind of didn't really Captivate me where you're like, oh man, this is so great and I felt that for this is not a knock on the women because I felt that for plenty of their other matches. It doesn't just didn't work for me. Just like coming out of the box like out of the starting box. It did like that's why I didn't like that's why I kind of lost interest because like the early part of the match was just kind of It didn't you got okay, there are certain parts of the matches that you have to mail and they have to be like the beginning of the match to get the people into it like you got to nail the beginning and the end. A hundred percent you got to nail that shit like yeah everything in between the important too. But like, you know, you got a guy coming out coming out of the gate. You gotta you gotta get on base, you know, you got to hit a single or double at least, you know and using baseball almost time to go back to the Royal Rumble when Lacey Evans kick things off exactly. Yeah, you know exactly and as such so important for her, you know, because that's what people are Membrane like and you know, she'll get to that but anyways, I don't want to digress Balian Sasha new Champions and you know, definitely historic way to Crown the first tag team Champs and the crowd was into it the entire time. I think it was just one of those those matches where it was different for the people watching at home and for the people live because the people live were hot for this match the whole time and you know, they had an Ayah do that spot where she runs through the through the what you call it the plastic the doors whatever you want. I'm not really sure what they're called the door part. Not the Pod the like the well, there you go. The glass the glass key players soup that she had it all meant that you know, you have your Braun strowman's do and everybody loved that. So that was fine. But yeah, there you go Sasha and Bailey champ and all right. So when I saw the tag belts, by the way, I had seen because I saw a tweet from from Shane Helms few months back. I think it was that showed like a picture at Women's tag titles and they didn't look like that. Don't think and I thought they looked at like look great. I thought those are I like yeah, but I thought I saw it. I saw it. I thought outside different design for them. Okay. I don't know I maybe I'm imagining it and we already talked about you know, the whole Lashley Finn Balor. Yeah. Russia was a really good match. Yeah. Is it really good match? I thought I really did and I you know, the people liked it at least and they still you know reacted well liked and it was a Good feel-good moment. And when in the title it's just like I just saw, you know saw coming. Yeah, Stevie Wonder saw that shit come that's an old joke that appreciate you as an intuitive guy. What are the other things that we want to talk about is Ruby Riot vs. Ronda Rousey, not necessarily mainly because more of the thoughts that came out of this match a few people on Twitter. We're pretty sorry about that. So I you know, they had the introduction. Inch and I walked into the kitchen and I want my God. No is over Yep. This was really so I didn't see any of it. Yeah. This was honestly a two-night match because they had the rematch on Monday and Ruby really got to shine but then a lot of people were saying well she just got destroyed. Why would she get a rematch after losing and to that logic? You're correct, but I don't know me to me. It's tough because you want Rhonda to be dominant going into WrestleMania. But wow, that match was what 1 minute and 40. Yeah, but okay. Yeah, and I get it and that we're not we don't know exactly why that match. Mandala I could be with they just want to get round over strong sure, but it also could be budgeting, you know, TimeWise and who knows but you know, and it's something they do a lot is to give, you know, give a rematch from the night before. Do you know they do that a lot? And I've had I don't know how many times like I've had a match on on the pay-per-view and then worked with the same person or the same team the next night on Raw. Yeah, you know and if you know if we did the job the night before we get it back on raw and it would be like, okay, I'd rather win on TV. Then. I'm Gonna Pay Per View more people see the women are loss on Raw, so that happens a lot. But so this rematch at least you got to see what they could do, you know, did you like it? I love it. I I liked it. I liked it. I just feel like more when it comes to the elimination chamber. I know a lot of people were angry, but truthfully I thought that the way the match happened was how it should have happened because granting a ruby Riot she's great and whatnot. But this was about Ronda Rousey Charlotte sitting out there Ronda Rousey's a heel so she's gonna obviously be you know, to come out and she's gonna essentially kill her and that's what it should be because she's going into WrestleMania main event of WrestleMania and that second and look that Ruby riots job elimination chamber what's to get Rhonda over strong bottom line and she did her job. So sorry if anyone didn't like that. Yeah, and then when Becky came out the whole segment to me just proved even further. This is without a doubt the main event of wrestlemanias. She went Ham on those crutches on both of them and this segment that crowd was electric for anyone still trying to tell me. Oh, no, it's going to be Brock and Rollins or something. I don't know prove me wrong. These women should be in the main event. There's no way. Well, you also speaking about the post-match. Basically Becky Lynch came out in her crutches. She came from the crowd. She when she got into the ring and then basically Charlotte didn't expect it and Becky hit her with the crutches after she attacked her she had the staredown with Rhonda where it was kind of like are you gonna join me in your also going to attack Charlotte? What do you do here? Rhonda makes the mistake of turning her back and giving her back to Becky Lynch where Becky Lynch gets her with the crutches and perfect. There you go. Beautiful. Perfect and okay. Okay, anyone that's like I want you to hit her from behind. That's how you do it 2019. That's how it baby face. Does it in 2019 back jump in baby Mania. See ya. So ya know it was just so good to watch and look. Yes. It was rough. And you know, those those women they got the shit beat out of me with that fucking crunch, Charlotte. Okay, everyone. Yeah, and I seen the marks and all that. On their bodies and you know, some people be like, oh, you know, you know, they want it. This is the thing. Okay, if it was guys out there doing that no won't be going. Oh my God. Oh my God, these women can fucking handle it just as much as we can. Okay, everybody. There's fucking pound for pound tougher than we are as a matter of fact. Yeah. Okay, so like let's not get too. Up in arms all like women, you know, oh the poor women fuck that and you badass bitches and they and yeah, and I don't mean bitches in a bad way. I mean what you're saying is those three women they're not going to do anything to be taken out of this main event. And if that means getting the hell beat out of him with crutches, so be it they're going to measure that main event. Yes. I did like Becky Lynch has a follow-up tweet. She just wrote at Vince McMahon and then she just put a little GIF of her saying screw you that was pretty fun that she did that. Right after her match. No. Hello one readier. She did. There you go. All right and moving on to obviously the hottest match of the night for I would say and definitely one of the hottest moments that we've had in quite a long time on it. W pay-per-view, which was the men's elimination chamber and obviously the final to Daniel Bryan and Kofi Kingston, which literally had the crowd on fire though. They were the last two guys they basically went back and forth with some kicks. They had a great Moment On Top of the pie. Pod they were aggressive. It was exciting quite a few people that Kofi was gonna come out Champion thought why not? Yeah, why not? It would have been just fine. It would have and I said that's watching it. I'm like, I'm I'd be happy with a Kofi Kingston Kofi Kingston title and right now leading in the Wrestlemania. For sure, I would I would love to see. I'd like to like to see coffee when that thing. Well, he's going to get his match at Fastlane. That is the main event of fastlaner at least one of the title matches. But yeah, a lot of people had those suspend disbelief moments like that you don't often get and they were so into it. And yeah, I mean a lot of people are calling for that to be Daniel Bryan Kofi at WrestleMania, who knows considering it's going to be a fast lane. What do you think? It's going to happen? I doubt it honestly while first of all for me like I've said, A million times. I'm a fan of a person that has the belt for a really long time. So I don't want to see Daniel Bryan lose about just yet because I he can still do so much for it and he had the hot thing going with it right now, but why not give Kofi that opportunity. I don't I don't want that match at Fastlane. I wanted to rest of me. That's what do we want for Daniel Bryan. Here's the problem with that though if you put them. Staffa Ally in the main event or their title match at WrestleMania Daniel Bryan. You're going to risk the fans turning on him just because he's not Kofi. It's almost like the Royal Rumble this was but I didn't know I was the plan. Oh sure the inner so initially, I gotcha. Gotcha. Yeah both speaking of people keeping their spots. We've mentioned this like for example was originally last year. We all thought it was going to be Charlotte vs Ronda then Becky basically made herself into something and now she's in there and I think this is kind of a moment with Kofi Kingston where he made himself something. The fans reacted they liked what they saw and now they're behind it. So now you got to do something about that you have to and I think they're I think they know that so we'll see what happens. I think it's up to the fans over the next couple of weeks to really show Kofi as much support as possible because yeah, they're going to fight a fast lane but it's no guarantee. It's going to happen to me. Neither. I almost wish that there was no pay-per-view coming up until WrestleMania. Yeah, like it was like bro rumbles. There's another one of those fast lane is not necessary. No, no, is there another one after fast? Falling down. There's not another brand pay-per-view. Oh good. No because everything did the cut down. I don't know but the point is I just really would like to see it carry on all the way until WrestleMania and with yeah. Yeah. All right. Well, I'll call him and let him know. Yeah past that Kofi Mania. There you go. And that pretty much covers elimination chamber. All right. What else do you want to talk about anything? We done here the so we got I think we're done Hall of Famer big ready. Cool. Well, you want to talk about star cast. Oh we can talk about that next week. Okay, then we'll be there. So hey, ho be there get ready for let me guess next week. I just you know, I don't know. There's just this seem like there's always tons of talk about you know, and you know, I know people like Ghasts to and I mean, I'm gonna be honest with you everyone sometimes I have really good guest on here. And don't do the numbers we do when I just talked about recap of pay-per-view or are some other like subject that's you know, relevant or topical or whatever. So it's really weird. So like I never I'm never you know, that's why you never know like Jesus Christ three times. I knocked over my cold brew. Know what you think if you thought the same way they did if maybe you had a different opinion and people like to know I know I personally like when my favorite podcast host has the same thoughts that I do because I'm like, oh we've got the same. That's great. And I think people like that and to be honest is someone who really enjoys going through wrestling matches with professionals going through a match with you and hearing your thought process is unlike any other and so I think people really enjoy hearing that to cool the psychology. I'm happy to give it to me. Absolutely, you know. And I'm grateful everyone that tunes and and I are you know, like I see numbers getting stronger and you know people tuned in to the YouTube page and watching us on there and I see that I'm grateful for all that to so. All right. Well, let's get out of here. Okay, social media before we go. Yeah, let's do all that. All right. So for the show, don't forget to follow us at xpac wanted 360 show on Twitter on Stick around we're at Xbox One to 360. So make sure to follow us on there for news updates a little fun to bits that we post up. So make sure to check that out. And then for myself, you can check me out at underscore Danny. Saucedo Instagram and Twitter youtube.com slash Denise el-sayed. Oh, I'm at Jake wasto this Saturday. I'll be calling the Black Craft wrestling Destiny wrestling co-branded pay-per-view in Toronto. You can watch it live on fight TV and then Sunday Cham dressing from Hollywood television tapings and on tour, but Rikishi, March 16th, 1726 31st, San Francisco, Sacramento Tremendo, Brea, California and Nashville so far might be doing something Mania weekend will see all right. Hey Marcus. Yes, sir. Tell me what you got going on social media. What are the projects you got coming up? Well, right now I'm focusing heavily on my twitch Channel wrestling show the wrestling professionals, which I do with former contributor of the show Bill hand stock these professional wrestler Brandon Taylor who wrestles right now is Robert Baines. I actually just shot a short film for Bands for Alpha Omega wrestling that is sort of a attack on the Bane's compound and it's like a mini horror movie. It was it was a lot of fun. We shot that in the desert over the weekend. Oh boy cool boy, but I've got a lot of projects relating to wrestling theme parks animation all sorts of stuff and you can find me on Twitter at Mark bead Annika or for the wrestling stuff specifically on Twitter at the wrestle pros and Mark. Yes, sir. So, you know every week when we're doing these, you know at the end here you need to tell everyone You know share everyone. What do you got going on just like we do because I mean you do a lot of great work around here and like sometimes you know, they don't even know you're there because we don't hear from you that's part of the job though. Yeah, but we want to hear from you. You gotta just we're very grateful for you. Thank you Sean, right and you can find me at the real Lex Puck on Twitter at real xpac on Instagram and it's baby Lula on Instagram for Loop shit. What else did we? 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