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It was a lot going on downtown Orlando performance center, and I could not connect cannot take the time to call in for the show. Sorry everyone so good. So I'll get how I missed you guys didn't get all the way here and then have me I kind of had a feeling that's why I texted you before hands. But either way, I mean major news coming out for NXT, especially the day that you were there as well. What was that? They're going to be on the USA Network. Do you think that people might still see NXT as the minor leagues now that they're on the USA? Maybe? Yeah. Yeah. I just think they're going to see him as different though more than anything. Right? And I honestly think that this is my prediction within six months are going to beat rock Smackdown in the ratings at least once interesting. Yeah, because I think yeah within my experience sooner maybe way sooner than six months. Yeah, seriously. Yeah, but it's tough to convince mainstream fans or casual fans that That these guys are on the same level when when it's easy for them to just say well, why aren't they on Raw where again Smackdown? So I'm hoping that yeah this kind of elevates them into and do like you said just being a third brand having two hours of live Primetime TV. And yeah, I'm hoping that that convinces people, you know, yeah. Yeah, I really do like I'm not just saying that to try to Hype up, you know, the, you know, positive attitude or whatever and just being you or not just being optimistic. I honestly think that that's going to happen. Yeah, really do yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. All right. WWE is launching a podcast Network. So coming from a podcast app spec. That's really exciting. Yeah, they're going to be featuring several series that are focused on WWE Superstars wrestlers and content. The Bell is podcast is already named one of the podcast that will be part of this. Do you have any thoughts they mentioned it to me a couple months back and then like three or four months ago. Now this was gonna happen. I was just waiting for the announcement. That's why I'm surprised it didn't happen sooner, right? That's all now. Like I did see something work. I don't know some music Conrad said the days of the golden era of rustling podcasting is overs. And yeah, that's true right auntie. I don't I don't get that. Yeah, huh. I feel like no matter what if anything that's going to get hotter. I think especially now with you know, aw coming in and sort of adding that aspect of you know competition people are going to be wanting to tune into these podcasts and be like what are people saying I've anything I think that it's going to add to the hype and the conversation surrounding pro wrestling. Yeah, but I think I think one of the things that people might get weary of is like is is this going to be you know, like corporate approved? Testing, you know, that's probably gonna be a little bit of a little bit of that. Right? Right. Right, right and I'm in trouble. I think it'll still be good. I mean, I think there's still so much content on the network that takes us behind the scenes, you know with without completely reckon the the illusion but I think that that might be what people are kind of worried about but I think yeah, I think there would be plenty of others even outside of this network, you know, once again, it's it'll just it'll be good for everyone. I mean, I'm not like I didn't look further into it, you know in the comment, you know the supposed to comrades. For Beltran sure. I just I don't know if he means like okay, we're not going to have as many guests on the I see you know, they also for podcasts that aren't on the W podcast Network or I don't understand. I'm not sure but interests honest, I'm not sure how that affects like outside wrestling podcasts. Yeah, but maybe it does I just I'm not seeing it yet. No, huh? All right. So let's go ahead and Shift into him some aew near so all out is on August 31st this coming weekend and we had one of the matches change Kenny. Omega will no longer be facing Jon Moxley because Jon Moxley essentially has MRSA which rooster which is a staph infection in his elbow and he got that during the G1 and is obviously going to be out and cannot face Kenny Omega, but he now has a replaced opponent, which is Pock a so, you know, Marissa is way. Way more serious than just regular staff real bad. Yeah, you can die from Mersa and I've heard like I've seen some people at like, oh, it's not like he has cancer or something. Well, the only the differences like cancer is not contagious. I mean well for the most part the right some people think you know, like I don't know come about ready to get off into the Weeds on anyway point my fucking mind. All over the place tonight. So why it's so serious. Yeah. That's a big deal. And it's I've been there's been other cases of this lately and I'm concerned like, you know. when you're going around and and you're doing shows like outside shows that maybe are you know, you don't know when you go to a certain promotion like you are they cleaning the Rings like the canvas because a lot of times that doesn't happen. Right? And I mean I'm concerned about like this. Thank God, they took him out of this and didn't just try to cover it up. Yes. I can just pretend that, you know, maybe covers elbow. Whatever the fuck it was his elbow something. Yeah. It's crazy at the same thing happen with Ricochet when he was supposed to do the thing with us had their re-union. All right, Mmm Yeah, but I think he just had staff. It wasn't Marissa. Yeah, but yeah, I'm concerned like this is something I have seen a bit of lately and in the more guys are going around and traveling from you know here and there and, you know picking this up and maybe even spreading it before you even know you have it. And so yeah, it's good. They took him out of this at obviously. It's not ideal and I think they did the best thing they could have I mean as far as Replacements go like of all people out there like I think POC is you know, yeah considering the history with him and aw recent history like makes sense to me. Yeah. This is going to be a fun match glad to see him coming back in the in the in the atw picture. Hmm, like wrestling business wise, I think actually Like this match is it's a pro because not only does it scan POC wrestle, you know, the Kenny Omega style, you know a lot more similar so they can have a really strong match for the show. But now when Jon Moxley is healthy and can come back they can build the Jon Moxley Kenny Omega Feud even bigger now on TV and make it may be a lot more hotter than it would have been just put in on on all out. So I'm wondering if this is going to affect the by rate at all and you know some because I I did see, you know, some people complaining and bright and it wasn't complaining about the replacement just that there was no like it was just an announcement this replacement but there was no like extra build up to try to kind of build another little story Little I don't know right? Yeah, but you know, how do you do that? A couple weeks or a week? Was that week notice? It's something like that. Yeah. Government week because it's still this coming weekend. So, you know this weekend is a week. So maybe a few given change a few extra days. Yeah. I remember in time too long ago where Dude, it just gone out there with Marissa, right? Yeah. Yeah. No, absolutely. But luckily. I like you said they nipped it in the bud got them replaced. I think honestly both of these are dream matches. So it's kind of a you know, like you said my ideal scenario. So I do get it, you know, like it would be great if there was a buildup from like any button. I mean, it's who you deal with things exactly. I mean, those are the circumstance you have to deal with the not good for them for you actually, you know reaching out and getting And it's like we said that at least there is some sort of history there with potkin atw so it's not like there's absolutely nothing sound like they're going in cold, but it'll be good either way. All right, and then some more aw, aw news. They've recently sent out a press release that Tony Shivani has signed a multi-year agreement with aw. And the cool thing is he's also going to be serving as a senior producer for events and the other cool thing which I think is that he's still able to work his other jobs with the University of Georgia the baseball Network and mlw I'm good. Yeah, that'll be great. I like it. I like it's just it's a familiar face and a familiar voice, you know along with allow that Jr. And I think it matters. I mean it's but I think I think it's actually kind of The Best of Both Worlds because it is a familiar voice but it's one that wrestling fans haven't heard in so long. So there's that that kind of nostalgia element, you know, and I like, you know, like X the thought of Xcalibur being in there with that. The kind of just you know, keep things fresh. ER up put it right. But yeah, you know getting that new blood in there. Exactly. Yeah, you know. All right. Look for Tony. I'm glad to see Tony back in the in the picture and the wrestling industry. Thank you been busy with all of those jobs. Yeah, that's a lot. Yeah, that'll be good. That's awesome. All right, let's go ahead and move into raw. So maybe some of the key things that we want to talk about. Let's go ahead and start it off with Sasha Banks open. And promo on robber. She basically talks about her 4 month absent. She talks about throwing a fit crying on the floor taking her ball home not caring about her WrestleMania match and basically saying that the belts the tag-team women spouts meant less that last like I must have missed that part. Yeah. She said that they know that she wasn't a match for Wrestlemania and that she thought the women's tag team belts meant like well, she said she was defending belt if she didn't care about huh? Yeah. How that plays into like creatively like I don't get that part but like everything else I understand. Yeah, it's funny that she would mention that, you know, take your ball and go home thing and the crying on the ground because like there was reports of that. Well, I think yeah, I think that's what they wanted is just to like shut everyone up just go ahead and address it, you know and just use it as ammunition. Basically if I mean if it really happened, right? so I I'm not a fan of playing entrance music when you're running out to attack somebody right fuck come on because it gives the Alameda of though. This was we were just waiting for it to happen. This bitch's ass, but right but you know, what I will say this I really do like Sasha's new attitude of this like bad girl, and she even went on to say like I am the standard for Is Women's Division and I do kind of like that edginess that she brought to it that well, that's the thing, but when she was at when she was in in NXT and then her and Bailey were putting on Legit match of the Year candidates, you know, she was doing her best work as a heel. The boss character is is a natural heel character. And so I think it's long overdue. All right, and I know do one talk about the Drew McIntyre Ricochet match. Yeah any thoughts on that? I thought the right person went over. Mmm. Actually, you know, what would be my choice did but I think I would like to see either one of those guys as King of the Ring. I think they both them be good for different reasons, right? I thought that it really good match. I was going to win it the the whole tournament. Yeah, that's a good question Seabrook. Say when he's my he's my he's my choice. Mmm. You got think anybody else. I'm I think what what what I was thinking might have might have been Samoa Joe. Maybe I'll kind of get him some some Goodwill. I think that he's such a reliable player for them. They keep putting him in these high profile matches, but they put them in situations where he can't win and so I'm hoping This is something that can kind of generate them some of that good. Well now I feel like Samoa Joe hasn't had that key moment. You definitely were like, okay now this there are some serious focus on this not I feel like he's always you know, how they always say like always a bridesmaid never the bride. That's sort of deal. I feel like that's what we're getting exactly. That's what I'm yeah, so so it'll be interesting. I mean, I would also love to see Andre go go at least go to the finals. I mean a finals with undried a and Ricochet would be out of this world. Sure. Yeah. Shit, I just had a thought people are used to me having thoughts on the show some you guys talk about some other key moment. So Seth has officially accepted bronze challenge for WB Clash of Champions. So they're essentially having two matches now because they're both Tag Team Champions, and now they're having this match against one another. How do we like this chemistry? We're gonna like it. Yeah. And obviously the people do because did you see the reaction they got when they won? Yeah, title knows. Oh, yes, he had reaction, right, you know. Yeah, it's interesting. I'm just waiting to see where it goes because for me I was happy to see those Tag Team Championships on Anderson and Gallows and I would have liked to seen it, you know, stay with those guys for a minute. Right? Right. It seems like there. Kind of being hunted around a little bit. But if they have this long-term plan where this makes sense then I'm all like I don't want to get too judgmental on guy like you take it up those guys put it around. They don't need it. Well if it makes sense in the long term like sometimes we just step back and just see how things play out before we start just criticizing. Sure. Well, let's be honest. It's bullshit we can we can use that as a segue to talk about the tag team turmoil match and kind of the we've got new number-one contenders and Robert Roode and Dolph Ziggler. Yeah. Not only that but they went over clean several other teams in that match, maybe three or four other teams. So it's interesting that this is a new team never team before kind of getting hot shot into this this tag title man feels like err. Yeah feels hot shot. It feels like they were just thrown together. They're both good really good. Yeah, you know anything about each other. Yeah. Wow, the stuff that they were doing in that match was was really good with heavy machinery and and with everyone else that they were there were working with So it'll be interesting to see how they work how they work against Braun and Seth for sure. Huh? All right, any other thoughts on Raw any other moments you guys want to talk about I would say that those were pretty much some of the biggest highlights in terms of the show. We did have a new Firefly fun. Fun house segment was fun. I like where he was where he was spelling out sociopath making it seem like very obviously very kid-like. But at the same time he's teaching them aware that maybe kids one of my favorites. And and that was really more just a compilation of everything that we'd seen before but I think to that point I think that's that's a positive. I think keeping the fiend off TV unless it's absolutely necessary is the right way to go. Yeah, no bird own overexpose the theme the red one right but I did see some people on Twitter, you know, there's always those people that are that you don't agree with on Twitter, but I did see people on Twitter that were upset that you know that they want to see him on every show. Well, here's here's what I what I enjoy someone on Ray. It had a really good and it really interesting point that braised found a way to be his own manager at this point. He's playing this monster that never speaks his own now, please yeah, he's his own man of Peace. That's so fascinating to me and he's so good at both in such different ways. Yeah, my girlfriend really and you know, and only reason I'm bringing this up is because she's a writer very successful one and and so she knows her shit when it comes to this type of stuff. She really enjoyed that segment. Yeah. Awesome. Yeah about it. She just said that just by watching that she gets exactly what his character is all about. So, yeah, definitely. Yes, that makes sense and especially like sometimes like you don't even really know like you're like, what is this guy heels if I'm okay, but why you know, we've had that argument in the past about other, you know other people and even if you have never seen it before and you just turn tune in to the one last night like yeah, you kind of figure out what's going on there and you know what it's about. So definitely. All right. Do you want to wrap up Ron jump into our second our next segment? Yeah. Yeah. Let's do it. Our last segment for today. We're going to be talking about your 1995 match at SummerSlam versus hot cushy cushy defeated you the 1-2-3 Kid tell us a little bit about this match in and it was August 27 1995. So we're talking about like 24 years now since it's been that match let's refresh a little bit and you know sort of talk about Feelings going into this. Well, I had worked with hakushi matter of fact as far as anyone in WWF at the time. I was the first one to ever work with with him when he was Gin Sation Zaki when we had this tour of Japan 1994. It was kind of like in conjunction with ten ruse group. I mean we use their ring and everything like that. I was actually part of the problem like If you go there the WWF tour and it just looks like WWF guys on a Japanese show. It's a Japanese rang and you know, they have a Japanese ring announcer. When you go to Japan and WWE. You have WWE show the Japanese people. They want to see what they see on TV. Hmm. They want to see Howard Finkel. They want to see the fucking ring with the red white and blue robes, which is what WWE's ring was at the time all of that, right? So anyways, the tour had a few issues, but I don't know where to go into all that, you know me, but I was getting at is I just I had a match with with Wishin Zaki and we kind of killed it actually finished get screwed up but like everything leading up to it. Let me a bitch was I awful but hmm, there was a little much but it was enough for people like in the company to go. Holy shit. We got something with this guy and before the tour was over. He was working with Undertaker while Yamaguchi was coming out with a hat like Undertaker's head like like like it was you know, yeah, is that chopped off and it was it was anyone's kind of crazy. So all that being said like I had other matches with With him before we had that summer saying match, but that was the idea like that put that they put us in that match and that spot and it wasn't the first match on the show, but it was one of the early matches that help set the pace for the rest of the show. I think I think the first match on the show was actually Hunters very first pay-per-view. Oh, wow. Yeah. I think you work what? You know, I know he worked with Bob Holly. Hmm, and I'm pretty sure That was the opening match, but I'm don't share no. No. But that was a good one too. It's just you know, we you know what? I Lost Rhino it was really hard for me to pull out, you know, you talked about the things you talked about like how I set the pace and one thing I noticed going back and re-watching. This is that it was so ahead of its time and so kind of fast paced for that that era it seemed like Actually, like there was we did some things that were fast and like we're at Lake and there was sudden, but if you actually watch the pacing that match it was actually slow. Okay, it just seemed like it because the things we would do were fast. Yeah. It's just the pacing was slow and that's like something that that I think was really good about that magic because everyone could digest everything we would do something give it time to breathe, right? Yeah something Give it time to break them going to the he, you know all that and so even though he was a heel and the people are with me. He didn't do a ton of he last stuff. He's by that's fine space tiger drops and 1990. Fuck. Sure. Yeah, he hit me with a Bronco Buster before I was going to ask about that. You know, I'm pretty sure people know now that's where I got it from because I've said it a billion times for people. In the back that haven't been listening. Was there any sort of a language barrier between you guys working together little bit Mmm Yeah, but you know, nothing major is I just the same that you know, I would have to deal with right, you know, like going on Japan tour and I mean he actually had a lot he spoke wrestling English right wrestling that's such a fascinating concept to me using that and using kind of body language putting together spots that with people that don't necessarily speak your language. And they know we did some cool things that you would never see at the time and things that you know, I got from you know, all my travels around the world right actually stolen some of it like great from like tiger mask matches things like that. Yeah. Do you think he came a few years, you know before because considering that he was wrestling like this different style that maybe we weren't really seeing that often and maybe weren't really introduced to it and in the u.s. Until you know, J'adore started coming to ECW. So do you think he was a few years before his time? Uh, yeah, I mean, yeah, I guess mmm. it's just I mean he was he was a huge name in Japan. But yeah, it makes wasn't huge name. But he was very like he was he was a huge. Yeah, because he wasn't like a new Japan or whatever but like in the rest of History over there, you know, he was yeah. Yeah. Yeah coming and you know, they know, you know the real wrestling fans in Japan new. Yeah, one of the things that that jumped out at me again going back and watching this is how how kind of out of nowhere the finish the Finish sort of came. Yeah, that's you go for this spinning. Okay, and just immediately he turns it into this part of a powerbomb. I got one arm pail. Exactly. And I love those days where that one two, three could come from from anything. Was that something you guys Ed had kind of meant meant to sort of? Yeah do yeah, that's kind of how I like to do finishes in matches like that. Mmm. He was using he was using the diving headbutt items using the Power Bomb. But but yeah that was such an interesting way to go into it. Yeah, but I mean if I went back and really like Dissect to the there might have been some things. I would have done different knowing what I know now, but like yeah and people I people appreciated the Magi have you watch her reaction, you know, I was high. Yeah, and they just appreciated the quality in the match and no and you know, how hard we worked and okay and there's a replay. Yeah, so okay. Yeah. Yeah. I got all my shit in the end of the day. Yeah, so Let me kiss other getting ready to like he had matches what Brad after this and write they you know, they use them for some for some other things after that. Yeah, definitely. How was it kind of integrating your guys a sort of did he have a martial arts background before he got into her wrestling? I have no idea. Yeah, sometimes I I mean I imagine right right imagine. He might have because I mean because his technique was pretty good. So yeah, yeah one of us, you know, a lot of us have like green belt in Taekwondo or took some karate classes or whatever sure but yeah, definitely am for anyone watching or listening go back to the network re-watch that SummerSlam 95 such good stuff. Well and you know, this is also the show where they had the second lat. Match between Razor Ramon and Heartbreak Kid Shawn Michaels. Yeah. Absolutely. This has been talked about but I'll mention it on here. You know, Sean's got you know, all of us. We got together and helped put that match together to write. Okay, we got together. We watched tapes of the first one. And then also there were some there were some restrictions placed on that match like you tell you weren't allowed to you. Use the ladder as a weapon. Oh, wow, even though they still managed to fit in there somehow right but things like that. So there was you know, a lot of people had no idea they went into that match with handcuffs on. Hmm. And it's the match. I mean, it's It got really good reviews. It was excellent match and there's some people even like that better than the first one. Yeah. I had always liked it more growing up maybe yeah, but do you think those restrictions were imposed because they thought maybe the Wrestlemania 10 matches too dangerous? No. No, there was just the climate at the time for us as far as on TV. I think everyone like all eyes on us like, you know to Violent this and that, you know, there was just a lot of He's under a lot of scrutiny at the time for a lot of reasons. So yeah, that was it God. I can't remember what the other things like that we weren't allowed to do at that point. Some of them made signs and some didn't right exactly. But also on that show, I think that was a brat versus Isaac yankem SummerSlam 95. Yeah. Yeah and in King Mabel Versus diesel I remember that one. Yeah and the big thing with that match was Mabel want to drop the like he did this thing where he dropped his ass on people and just complete that way. Yeah and Kevin specifically told him absolutely under no fucking circumstances right do that to me, right? And he fucking did it. Anyhow, he almost killed Gap was just fucking crippled him right and like they were going to fire him and calves a'ight. Don't I don't fire? Like honestly, I'd be honest with you like when you do something like that and I love me' by loved. I love this but that was fucking bullshit was selfish and you know, really it really hurt Kevin. He's fucked him up. And so that is something that you should get fired for sure, honestly. Yeah, when you're that big with that sort of sort of deadweight kind of sheer drop. Yeah. I fucked him up. I don't understand how he thought that Like that would be I mean, it's 500 fucking pounds, right? So yeah, so yeah a lot of anyway, yeah point being a lot of good stuff to go back and watch John on SummerSlam 95. I really loved that but the venue it's not there anymore the Civic Arena and Pittsburgh. Yeah. It was really cool. Like there's another building in its place will text me in the parking lot. But the cool thing about that venue was the roof opened up. Oh, yeah. So like you one time we were Show there and the big selling point was like summertime and after the show, they opened the well, actually they have the roof open the whole time. I think and after the show, they had fireworks. Oh cool. It was kind of cool. Yes. Yeah. How does it feel like going back and watching some of your old matches and like knowing like how much time has gone by wow, just think yeah because I think about that now like when I go back and watch old stuff because you know, I was Doing that 10 years ago watching on stuff, but it was on it was a you know, it's only a few years less time is old at the time announcing. Wow, and it's a lot, you know, like the The long the owner I get like the faster time seems to go. Yeah. I had I had read somewhere that kind of scientifically because as you get older a year represents less, absolutely. I was trying to figure out how to say that my brain is scrambled it. It makes sense for sure. He just keeps going faster. Yep. So I was there's other things I want to talk about. Yeah, but I just can't because I don't want to jinx them, but I have some really cool things going on and even if they don't end up happening, it's still like Cool shit exactly how to put that positive energy. Yeah. I'm even up for some of this stuff. Yeah. So there we go. Alright anything else when I guess anything else has has everything in your area with the Eagle Rock Fire Control like on the way here. I could see all the hillside burnt and everything. That was yeah that was literally right down the street are the flame still happening around that Ben could know your might still be some because I smell you know, I smelt On the way, I know people were something like fire like, you know like it. What was that now? I'm trying to figure out what I thought that smell was. Anyways, it was great. But yeah, that's still going on. Yeah boy, like who gives a fuck? No one had to be evacuated right super scary and then the side just stand outside and like from the like there's a deck at house and like you can look down and see like Figueroa Street and cholera Colorado Boulevard like doing they shut the oh my God this door. He's got like who gives a fuck about this story? Oh my God. I was just going to say I'm just sitting and watching traffic honking at each other and you know arguing getting in fights over right? Right, but luckily you guys are you guys got good fine? Yeah, but it's everyone's harp to an end today. I love all y'all shit. Yeah, that's it. I'm gonna wrap it up. Let's go ahead and give some handles and all of that. So guys do not forget youtube.com / Xbox make sure to check out check out the Twitter Facebook Instagram Xbox One to 360 and Xbox One to 360 show for clips and so much more and you guys can find me on Twitter and on Instagram @ underscore Danny saucedo. Y'all can find me on Twitter and Instagram at time Matthews PMA. At the real Lex Puck on Twitter at relax Puck on Instagram. There's other did you already say the other ones? Yeah the show ones. Yeah. All right. We'll see you right here next week from AfterBuzz TV studios in North, Hollywood, California. Maria Menounos, Keven undergaro Sean Waltman and the entire Xbox One to 360 staff. 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