Welcome to not another Runner podcast a running and health-related podcast created by a run-of-the-mill. Yes pun intended every day Runner join me for all things running health and well-being related for the highs and lows of Life Training and chasing girls. This podcast is designed.Keep you motivated and enthusiastic on your journey to health and happiness. Every time I run I discover something new about me and about life be a reason why I run or a discovery of myself. I genuinely find gratitude through Runnin. I am able to stay healthy and fit through the execution of my passion, but furthermore I'm able to achieve peace presents growth and Discovery and I love to hear all your stories on how running has changed your lives and what it's brought to you. I want to connect like-minded people through the power of podcast.Hello and welcome to another episode of the not another Runner podcast. Thank you for tuning in and for choosing this podcast to listen to when you could choose one and listen to so many of that running podcasts. I'm so excited to be able to publish this episode today. It was great to finally get to record this episode with today's guest who's become a very good friend. Thanks to the other brilliant community of runners.Have over on Instagram today's guest is the very lovely thoughtful kind and caring Carly Barnes Carly is such a lovely person who I'm lucky to call a friend and though we have not yet and I say this with great emphasis as it will happen soon as unfortunately with everything that I had going on including babysitting duties and other things going on that that week. We were unable to meet up and had to postpone our parkrun and Take meat strangely at fell on the same day that the chiropractor then told me I wasn't able to run for a little while, which was very strange timing. Anyhow, we shall meet soon enough. I really really hope that you will get you all enjoyed. Today's episode as much as I enjoyed getting to chat with Carly as always get in touch with us over on Instagram. Let us know if you listened to the episode give us your thoughts and feedback. It's always appreciated during this chat got Carly goes on to tell us about her 12. Marathon challenge, this is a challenge that you can all get on board with. So Carly will go on to tell us about this challenge how it originated and the brilliant Charities that she's raising money by doing this basically between the 25th of December and ended on the 5th of January 2020. The idea is to complete the Marathon distance. You can do this in as many sessions or as little as you wish so long as they between these days. And completing the distance of 26.2 miles. And so yeah, whether that be in 12 small runs and walk jog runs or four or even just one run 26.2 miles and you can do it. However, you like so yeah, I just think what better way to all get together and help Carly Rae some money for some great Charities than signing up for this Challenge and also, It's a great way to keep active keep motivated during what's normally a very indulgent and sometimes a slower-paced less active period as we relax a little bit sometimes too much and does little bit too much as we enjoy the festive period with our families and loved ones. So yeah, great way to really just keep motivated keep moving keep active keep healthy enjoy the outdoors and fresher. Keeping the run and consistent getting involved with others with friends. Perhaps meeting up with others to do to do to do some runs do some miles get some miles in the bag to complete this distance over these 12 days and also brilliant way to start the new year motivated active healthy and miles in the bag. So Carly will tell us more about this during the chat. So do listen out for that. The link to sign up is right at the bottom within the notes and there was a Titian running for the 12-day marathon, so I think that still valid have a look on their Instagram page again the link for that is in the show notes. Hope you enjoy this chat. Let us know your thoughts and your feedback. Hello and welcome to another episode of not another Runner podcast. Today's guest is a female Runner. She's a wife and mother to two girls. Her husband also runs a passion is getting outdoors and hitting the trails. She also has recently discovered open water swim in and enjoys yoga has an exciting challenge to talk about today a challenge. You can all get on board with so let me introduce you to today's guest. It's none other than Carly Barnes AKA Gil run the Shire Carly and welcome to the show. Hi. Thanks for having me. You're very welcome really as I say this. I say this every episode. I need to start thinking of something new to say, but I'm really excited to talk to you today. I've been looking forward to this and everything. So could you just tell us a little bit about yourself Carly? Who is Gil run the Shire? Okay, so I'm going the Shire is me. I live in Worcestershire and let's go around the tire its own ass. So I'm 38. I'm married to Ben and we've got two daughters as you said before and me and Heidi who are 6 and 3 and yeah, I live and work in Worcester work for a technology company the content marketing manager there. I run obviously and I also enjoy baking and gardening and I kind of describe myself as a bit of a freestyle dancer. I don't do coordinate. Don't think I do freestyle dancing much the embarrassment of many of my friends. But yeah, so just a normal normal girl in the Shire how and could you tell us? How was it you have you got into running initially and how long so I've kind of run on enough for a really long time probably since I was at Uni really but kind of it was more of a hit and miss or I think we should be fit and healthy. Let's go for a quick run and then you'd run a hundred meters down the road and you'd be out of breath and putting why am I doing this? And then you don't do it again for months and months and then you might have another sort of little little go at it again, but I've always kind of been fairly active. I used to mountain bike alert with friends of ours. We used to go on snowboarding holidays things like that. And I played netball when I first finished what when I was at school and then when I finish uni when I was working that board but Runnings always kind of been there on and off in the past but never anything really serious and I would never have considered myself a rather and I know there's the whole thing about, you know, you stick your trainers on and you go out the door and you put One Foot In Front the other and you're a runner, of course you are but for me, I didn't consider myself a runner and it probably wasn't until I took part in a virtual running event couple of years ago that I fell in love with it and then I started I got that run as high and yeah, just yeah the ceremony of probably a couple years that I've been running more and more often and doing all these events and what have you but yeah, I love it. So I was just about to ask and I asked everyone if you've always been interested in a sports and active Lifestyles. It sounds like you have pretty much have if you've been doing snowboarding mountain biking years ago. I was never any good at it. That is a massive cover ya know. Very good at it but I enjoyed it and my husband while my husband and I have been together for a very long time 20 years. So we've kind of grown up together with our group of friends. But yeah, we used to go away for the weekend over into Wales mountain biking and but Balaton by can always follow it like a session up in the hills are always followed be followed by Eve like quite a few beers and what-have-you bit of a party and then yeah, we'd go snowboarding holidays and but I just always loved being outside and especially up in the mountains. There's something very special about being the mountains. I wish I lived closer to mountains, but there's one to us at the more than Hills. Hmm. Is it strange like you like so many people say this? You just said how you didn't really class yourself or feel like you were a runner until you really did that virtual running running an event. So many people say this that they call. Yeah, they start running but they're not run out or they don't feel like a runner and it's so sad that so many people like feel like this like because if you put your trainers on you go for a jog, even if you go once like you are a runner and I think we need to encourage. Is that and oh, yeah, absolutely. Yeah, and I it's so easy just to go like conversations. I have at work where they're still can't believe you you're running this and your but I'm not but you can as well and I'm I'm so passionate about that that it doesn't it doesn't matter. What speed you go out. It doesn't matter how far you go just as long as you're giving it a go if that's what you want to do and you don't, you know, I wouldn't want anyone to feel the pressure that they have to do that. But if I could bottle that Feeling you get when you know when it all just goes perfectly that you have a perfect run or when you're up in them in the trails and you see that view and you're stood there and you're like that's amazing and it's quiet and it's just you and the view of I could bottle that feeling and give it to people I'd be a millionaire because it is the best thing. Yeah, and I want other I just want other people to feel that and I don't want people to feel that you know, they have to run this crazy fast marathon time were to be Be a runner. You don't have to be just know, you know, it can be a run to the end of your road. As you know, it's something it's yours. So I think that's the thing. That's so true. Like I'm trying to talk down. But yeah, I've put so if you could like you just said about bottling up feeling up. Like I said, you know, what if they I've always said this if they could sell like the benefits of exercise and a smock. He'll figure just prescribe that I like. It was a health way like yeah General the the The money would spend like a chess and the health but you know the health hundred percent less isn't stuff which is decreasing like incredibly and you know, you said with regards to it doesn't matter how fast or how slow what pace you do that to like I say this all the time like with people that run with or friends or family, like it really doesn't matter that it isn't a competition. It doesn't have to be fast. It doesn't have to be professional. It's just going for a run and you know what? If you you stop and take a walk to gather your breath or you know to muster up the energy. So be it who cares? Yeah, exactly. I mean the thing is as well on the other side of things if going fast is your thing. That's fine, too. I think everyone just has to kind of find what's right for them. And then some of you some days you feel like you can just run and run forever or you can run really really fast another day like today what I don't want to I'm just going to have I'm happy plodding along. Or when I did I did the ballpark's half marathon a couple weeks a couple weeks ago. Well quite a few weeks ago now and I've got two mile seven or eight I have site. This is hurting my legs feel like they're I'm wading through treacle. I'm going to walk I don't need to run this anymore. This is ridiculous. And as soon as I stopped running and I started walking, I noticed this steel drum band and their flags and the these amazing signs that were made by an all these people cheering and I had the best time And it just completely changed it. It was yeah. So yeah, it's okay to walk and it's okay to go at your pace because it's your run. So whatever Pace that is. So yeah, I find I found like I'm races like if I've gone fast or I've trained hard and like say for example, you're really concentrating on a time or a place. Oh and that's what you want to do. That's what makes you happy like you do take in less of your surroundings. I've done the same race like on two occasions and even that now like I definitely haven't taken in the surroundings of use because you're you're concentrating so much we're doing rather than what's around you so there are so if it's too slow and down and just it all in. Yeah, you just have to yeah understand. Yeah. So how was it that you liked? How far in do you run into any did you realize you wanted a train for those longer distances? Well, it wasn't really so I Anton a I just started my Instagram account and it wasn't long after that and I started following a lady called Karen Lewin who's a local Runner to Worcester as she's pretty hardcore she but she's lovely. She's so nice and she's really inclusive and she just she just wants everyone just to enjoy you know, the joy of running but she organizes plugging event and is basically where you jog and you Litter and there was she posted on Instagram a load of us turned up and that's actually where I'm at Katie Katie J. And the runner on Instagram Instagram as well. I met her there and anyway, so between caryn and Katie, they I think Katie had just done race the stones not long beforehand and Karen was quite an experienced ultrarunner as well and the between the two of them over this sort of hour and a half. I spent running around Worcester picking up. Glitter they just sold it in to me of like Karen was like the views are incredible. And Katie was that you will not believe the pit stop. So angry. She said they basically described it as a running picnic and obviously I mentioned earlier on about that. I really enjoy baking I love I love food so much. I really really love food. And so I running picnic I wasn't even thinking about the miles which is leaking. Okay running and eating the sounds good. So yeah, and I It wasn't until a couple of weeks later where I met up with Katie again, and we ran together again, and she sort of started going on about it. And I was asked how far is it that she's that? Oh, it's just over 50 miles and I think in my head its it was such a big distance. It didn't seem real, you know, do you ever get that for you know, sometimes when you feel like you're scared of heights at the 10th floor, but if you go to the hundredth floor, it's so ridiculously high it doesn't seem real anymore. Mm-hmm. Does that make sense for my guess is worthless, but that's how it felt to me when I signed up. I was like, well, it is a really really long way but it's fine. It's just a day out adventuring and that's what I looked at it as when I signed up for the race to the stones explicit our sorry. Yeah, and yeah, and it was just about we just built till up the training bit by bit got a load of dates in the diary and just sort of built up to it. And but yeah, it wasn't ever it wasn't ever. Me realizing that I wanted to do longer distances. It was just about the food. Yeah, because they've been last year then wasn't it last year that you were convinced to do race to the tower would have been it's worth. Yeah, so I met Katie. Yeah. Gosh. I'm trying to put my dates together this we did it. We did Tower in June this year and I met Katie last year and maybe the August I think it was August 20th. 18. Okay, and then I think I finally signed up for race the tower. It may be the December sort of time and I just having just run in the September my very first 10K, right? Yeah. What's I go? Let's been saying yeah, right. Okay. Yep. Let's do this. I'm a bit of an all-or-nothing kind of person. Yeah, when was your first off Martin? When was Forest supposed to do now so far 13 that was in March of this year and that was my first half marathon. And so what we did was so I was I signed up to a coach. I was coached by Jordan project Marathon girl. Yeah and between her and obviously Katie haven't done the stones last year. We kind of plot it out. Dates in the diaries for long runs or and building on those longer runs. And yeah, and the The Forest of Dean half was up my very first half marathon that was in March of this year and I absolutely loved it. It was brilliant. It was like one of my favorite favorite races ever. Yeah. It really really hilly. Was it a lot of you know what I was expecting it to be super hilly from what everyone said, but I I don't know. Maybe I was just having like maybe it's because I was having the best time ever on this run and just experiencing that first sort of big event that I didn't notice that there were Hills but I didn't feel like I notice them and I think I'm trying to remember. I'm sure we ran most of the way maybe apart from a couple of little bits. I mean, I got tomorrow 11:00 and I bunked real bad. I can't do this get me a Jelly Baby. Remember seeing a guy Chris who we follow each other on Instagram and he kind of came up behind. Is that how you do it? I was like, I can't talk. I just need to get up this hill and I was kind of like this laying little donkey kind of just plodding up this hill but I've got to the top I was like right come on. It's only a couple of miles. I can do this got my head down and yeah finished it and my husband and my girls are at the end that was just I wanted to finish strong for them. And that was that was the best. That was really nice finish. And coming in like running into them and yeah, they're little hearing their little voices good mummy Well Done by me. It was really nice. Really nice. And that's that's the feeling that I want a bottle for people is that you know, when you're heading towards the finish line and that feeling it's just yeah, it's really it's not it is a great feeling like a really nice feeling. So that's that's some like crazy really good uni that you would have had like first hand. A September 2018 was next December you decide to sign up face the tower, which was I can't remember how many miles the rest of the tower. Is it 60 80 to know 50 50 52 or 53? Well, I didn't make it unfortunately, but that's a whole other parts don't forget but is this is crazy that thank you you decided to do all these in such a short short space of time. Yes in March. I probably wouldn't recommend it because I got I got quite a few injuries after my tank and when I signed up for race at our I had a groin injury, so I wasn't running at the time and I just signed up to to to George with Jordans coaching and she kind of helps supported me and built built a plan specifically from getting getting me back from injury. Yeah, so running an ultra my first Ultra My very first run I remember was it boxing day. I think it might have been Boxing Day or the day after boxing day and it was a mile and I was just ecstatic to be able to run a mile. I was so happy. Yeah, and I remember texting her as I shouldn't have just run the mile and he was yes, he sent me back the best message as I see you can do it one foot in front of the other and off we go so Yeah, and so so obviously as you've just said already raced to the tower was the goal big goal of shit. So we'll check if you if you are right if we can just talk about that was just quickly because it's have you had a crazy day with that one. And I think I knew our I know you said just now that you didn't finish it, but you did amazing. Like what you achieved is incredible when you think of that like the very close succession. One of those events and 10K back in in September and then you're half in the March come to June and you're entering race to the Tower and you've got to 41 miles wasn't yeah. Yeah. So we did we did we did for our city in the March and then I can manage to convince Katie to sign up to a trail marathon in the May on May the fourth. So V and it was it was it was the May the fifth because it was the Revenge of the fifth and they had like a star wars-themed medal and it was up in Shropshire along the long mend. And that was possibly one of the most brutal races I've ever done that felt harder than reach the tower maybe oh the dissents and the climbs on it where incredible but the most amazing sense of achievement at the end. We were we were almost the last ones over that line. We had to because there was a bit of a miscommunication with the the people that as it was two loops and you came back in there was a bit of a miscommunication as to we said we're going to nip in to learn then we'll go back out on our second leaving you had to do with the first Loop within a certain time. So we quickly in Italy and as we came back they said oh you're still here. We've just sent the tell Walkers and we were oh my gosh, so we then had to chase the tail Walker's although they weren't tell Walker's they were tail / very experienced Walkers slashed really good Ultra. Others so we acted and the first is if the first bit out on the second it was a massive massive climb out of the valley and we had to chase after them and somehow I don't know how we did it, but we caught them and we've got to the first aid station. The guy said don't worry. I will make sure because he also doubled up as the last aid station because you kind of do a big loop around the mint and he said don't worry. I'll wait for you here or have the Jaffa Cakes ready for that last bit and blessing me. Did he waited for us? He was he was an absolute godsend. That guy was if I had his I tell you but but yeah, we somehow caught the tail Walkers and then we finish that race and again my husband was there with the girls and I remember Katie saying to me come on, we finish strong for your girls and we did and that was such a hard race, but we did it and I'm yeah almost yeah that and then yeah and that was so that was the Mets and then ended June we went and did the tower but I think it was that race because it was such a quite a high high. What's the word? I'm looking for quite a steep descent. Yeah, and it just screwed my knees. Yeah, and I think that's where we did money. And so I my next the next plan was my husband and I were going to run from Worcester. Oh no run from Burma get the train to Birmingham and run back from Birmingham to Worcester along the canal Towpath which you can do from from Lock 30 tool or whatever. It is look 40 something but it's 30 miles. The first lock is that werster on the river 7. So we're going to run all the way back home to us too. Because I'm I knew you couldn't do it. And so for me that was a massive sort of blow psychologically that I couldn't do that next step in my training like 30 miles because that was sort of like if I can do that then it's only another hmm 2020. Yeah, so I made the decision not to not to run that and I think that was the right decision. Yeah, although Ben and I we definitely to go back and do that together because he's done. He's done it with his dad did it for his 40th last year and we went to see him at the Finish. But but yeah, so I'm going back to town. Yeah, and then we went and we did the tower in June and went in with an injury and I do not I don't do this. It's so silly to start a big race like that with an injury, but then I thought well I can walk it. When I run it hurts, but when I walk it didn't hurt so I thought if I just walk it or parts of it, then it will be okay and actually on the day it felt really strong and I did around we met living at the start line. It was absolutely pouring with rain. It was absolutely miserable and I think I ordered a raincoat two days before the event in a panic by because you know, that's the thing you do and then we met live e in the queue for the toilets I see. All right, come on, you're coming with us. We'll all run together. And so the three of us ran the first he was about 14 miles together and I felt great and it was in The Last Mile coming into Pit Stop to that. My knee just went and I couldn't I couldn't run it anymore. And that was just heartbreaking and I said to the girls you're gonna have to go without me and I'm just going to see how I get on and that was really really hard when you've trained with somebody all that time. And then you have to make that decision to split up. It sucks. Really really And I and I think they both felt really crappy about it as well. Yeah, they felt yeah, they felt bad about it. But we kind of said I said, it's fine you have its they had to run their race and it was my my thing as well. So so yeah, so they went on I saw it, right? Okay, what do I need to do and blessing my husband it he sort of ferried around that the pit stop getting whatever. It was I needed and the girls gave me a big hug. And then yeah, then I left there when I saw it, right it's going to walk it and run it when I can tiddler two stories on Facebook and Instagram to try and raise a bit more money for the Charities that I was running with and and then my husband then added me to a WhatsApp group that he had all my family and all my friends and then they're all like come on Carly and that was like I'm so I'm walking along with a snotty nose crying. Oh my God. Oh, my family and friends are here for me. And that was and I think that's what kept me going. Knowing that I was they were they were going to be at various different pit stop because I'd get a little text saying and coming up at the next Pit. Stop is the day and then like my in-laws were there and I remember seeing my my mother-in-law and my father-in-law been stepdad in one of the villages and then we saw his dad and his wife and his and his half-sister and the dog who nearly tripped him, but they were brilliant. They got me watermelon. They help stretch my legs and then I saw two of my Other friends much later on in the race, and it was so nice to have those people all the way along and that's what kind of kept me going. And I just chatted to loads of different people on well, I just thought right. Well, I'm kind of doing this on my own. I'm just going to make friends with strangers and you were never really on your own. So yeah, and it was it was a brilliant day out. It was really good day out and the I got to mile 41 and a hat. I had to find band and say I can't I can't go anymore because the blisters are blisters on blisters on blisters that got wet feet change my socks, but my trainers were so soaking wet. Yeah, and of course you weren't girls is so proud should be so proud of that. Yeah. I am. I am I am I am really proud of that. I'm what I'm more proud of is the amount of money that a race for the charities. And it meant that meant so much to them and no force or I'm still be raising money for them again. And so is it is it the same Charities? Yeah. Yeah. So obviously that was huge girl this year and this is very timely because I'm going to ask you now if you've got any big girls or achievements that you're right so you can tell us a little bit about that. So I'm actually going to go back and do it again. Yeah, and I'm going to finish the damn thing and I'm going to get to that Tower and I'm going to have my pint of beer or whatever it is that the end and pizza and I'm going to do that and I've told my husband can he meet me but there's pepper trainer. Should they get wet? So that's they'll be doing that later on the summer. But before then I managed to get myself a spot on the London Marathon through a charity, which was very very exciting. So I'm running low. under marathon in 2024 Family action and they are a charity who support loads of different families up and down the country who are perhaps not as well off as everybody else or maybe live in deprived areas that don't have the funding that other parts of the country do so, they helped them add things like Financial advice with Counseling for all sorts of different needs they support families who are going through IVF. They support families who perhaps have to make that decision as to whether they put food on the table or buy their kids Christmas present. Yeah. So made so many good things. They do the families up and down the country and obviously I'm mom I've got two kids and the thought of another mum out there having to make those kind of decisions or Deal with abuse within the family with us alcoholic alcohol alcoholism or drug abuse or other awful things that happen in life. Yes. I kind of felt as a mom. I wanted to try and support other mums and dads by supporting this this charity and then the other charity that I'm running for is a charity called hopeful tomorrow who they it was started by a lady called Christine and her husband. Cancer and they bought a bus and they put a chemo unit on it and it became the world's first mobile camera unit. And the idea is that it enables families who perhaps can't get to a hospital easily. Perhaps they live in rural communities and they don't have access to public transport their own transport so they can go to their local community Hub. Whether that's a local doctors surgery or Community Center and that's where the bus will be and they're now in in several counties all over the country and they help people today Lee so it just basically means they can they can go to the bus have their chemo and then they can come back home and be with the people that they love which when you're fighting cancer, that's what you need to be don't want to be enough. You don't want to be in a hostile way. You don't have to be in the hospital and my my father-in-law he's he's got cancer and he is yeah. Said he's he's used their services and their amazing and he's and I said to him, who do you want me to run for when I did the tower last year. I want to raise money for a charity or who can I support this helped you and he gave me these these guys name and they're yeah, they're amazing. Yeah, and they've helped him. Yeah, so yes, I got through school tomorrow and hope for tomorrow and family action. What an amazing charity and like that story? Who did you say was it that set it up? Hope for tomorrow? That was a lady called Christine. She set up for her husband last night. Yes. Yeah. Yeah, they're in there an incredible incredible charity and they do a lot of good and yeah, they just bring it closer to home. It's so important when you're going through a really rough time with your health. You don't want to be in a in a hospital with you know, as lovely as the people in hospitals. You don't want to be there you want to be at home and and the quicker you can get back over better really? So it's you know, it's where you feel comfortable and also obviously there's there's less germs and things at home is what you're used to so so, yeah, so yeah and they've helped my father-in-law who's a very very special man in our family. So yeah, that's who I'm running for. So those the Charities you're raising money for a year London Martin 2020. Yeah, and also race the tower. Perfect. And then we did speak earlier about the 12 doing marathons that you want to tell people about that as well. Yeah. So rather than asking people for money to sponsor me. I have set up a virtual running event called the 12-day marathon. So I'll give you a bit of background if anybody's on Instagram and they follow Livy who's the nutritious Runner she set up something very very similar a Years ago for when she did her London marathon race in 2018. So she set up the 12-day marathon and the idea is that instead of asking people for money you get them to sign up to this virtual event where they run the distance of a marathon Over The Twelve Days of Christmas and at the end once you've once you've run your distance you get a medal and it was a beautiful medal. And so I took part in this and that's how I kind of came to fall in love with with running. And since then I sort of kept in touch of Livy and we follow each other we've chatted several times and other than we actually ran part of races Tower together and then when I got my London Marathon Place iMessage living and I said I've got I've got a place I'm so excited and think of doing something similar to what you did with the 12-day marathon, and we would we were chatting about it. Fourth and she said to me why don't you have the 12 Day Marathon? Because it was still alive Instagram account and she said there was still a Live Strong of a club for it that she'd set up and so she gave it to me so that I could she switched it all over to me and we've set up a new password and what have you and she gave it to me so that I could use it to raise money for my London Marathon attempt. So yes, that's what I'm doing. So it's you sign up and apart from the cost of the medal and Post-its all The money will go to the Charities that I'm raising money for you don't have to raise any any money. You literally just sign up pay your entrance fee if you like and then between the 25th of December and the fifth of January this year you run the distance of a marathon and you can do that in one go if you're that good or you can do it in chunks. I've got a friend who has never run a day in her life and she signed herself up her husband and her little girl and they're going to do it when he did the January sales because they reckon they walk that much anyway, and then I've got another friend who's doing he's gonna split up into a few five k's and a 10K and try and get some pb's and then I've got other friends that are walking it with with their mums and my money even managed to get my husband to sign up and he doesn't do running events. He he's quite adamant about that. He just likes to go out and run solo and I've said but you've got to you've got to do my in so Yes, even he's doing it. So yeah, that's a dad I've had the response already has been incredible hasn't that's great. Yeah. Yeah, it's really nice. I feel I feel very very lucky to have so many amazing people in my life. And so many all these Runners that want to take part in this and support the Charities that I'm raising money for it. So yeah, I feel incredibly lucky we will do is we'll put the so if anyone's listening thinking Lord, you know, I wouldn't mind signing up to that. I had a Harley raise some money for the parties and also yeah and in the meantime and you get a medal, yes, yeah, very pretty metal very very lovely what we'll do. We'll put the link to 12-day Marathon and the your page the Instagram page as well so that people could just click straight on there. I'll thank you. I definitely am going to be signing up because that's quite it's quite a quiet year, isn't it? So it will encourage Rich people to keep happy and it is it's you know it over Christmas. He always I mean I don't I personally I'm always a bit sort of lethargic of indulge a bit in that food that I love so much and probably don't get out and do much. I might do a little walk here and there but yeah, so it what's nice is that there's people that have never never really led a very active lifestyle that have signed up for it, which is fantastic and there's all it that's the other thing you don't have to run it. And so my friend burning. Yeah, so she's had a really Torrid time with with an injury over the last couple of months, but she signed up for and she's like, I think she's hoping that she'll be able to walk parts of it like with her husband and I want to walk some of it with her. That would be wonderful. So that's yeah. It's what run skip job hands down. However, you want to do it you do it and it's inside or outside wherever January sales. Treadmill Trails wherever well I'm saying it's like I mean, I'm hoping I'll be running and by the end but at the moment I'm not running so we'll have to wait and see so if I am walking and I'll be walking a lot of it in between work. But yeah, Bernie was episode 10 of the podcast on Clinton spoke Taylor was episode 9. I'm sure people will have heard of both of them and hear their episode. Yeah, that's great. Everyone's getting involved. I'm sure we're all raise a lot help you rare. That would be awesome. That would be really cool. Thank you. You do seem to be really proactive and you do get involved with lots of great causes, you know such as this one raising money for charity. There was another one that you've been involved with and that would run as he'll could you tell us this court? Yeah. So yeah, so run his heel that was set up couple of years ago by a guy called Chris Cooper. He I think I can't remember exactly what it was. He did for a living but I think he was sort of had quite a high flying career and I think he went on holiday to Africa and I think he was so moved by what he saw out there basically mums and dads that couldn't couldn't feed their kids or the children were missing out on an education because they can get them to the schools. And so he It really sort of hit home for him at how lucky we are here in the UK and actually in most Western countries and so he wanted to do something that was bigger bigger than him bigger than any of us and so he set up Runners Hill because he was big Runner himself and loved running and the idea is that you so he's got a shop on the website called Runners Hill and on the site you can buy these. T-shirts fast sweatshirts and hoodies all those kind of things and they've got this the Sloan on them. We run this and the idea is that one of those is the will pay for a month's worth of meals in a school in the town's enough in this in this part of Africa for a whole month. So kids are more likely to attend school if they get a decent meal. A hot meal every day. So the school since he set it up School attendance has been much higher and obviously there's kids that's really important. Well, as you know, you know education is everything especially in that part of the world because it gives them a better start in life. It takes them away from what could otherwise be pretty nasty turn out so so yeah, so that's what he's doing and he's set up a couple of years ago and Hoping by the end of this year to get to 500,000 meals which would be incredible. So yeah, so every every time you buy a t-shirt or a vest or a hoodie from some Runners Hill you're providing A month's worth of School meals for kids in Africa and the other thing he's done. He's he's recently read visited some refugee camps some Syrian refugee camps and he has a thinks just set up something very similar out there as well in a refugee camp. And he's yeah, he's worked really hard to make make sure that because there's a lot of politics around refugees and things like that. But this isn't this isn't about politics. This is just about making sure kids get a square meal every day and get an education and that's far more important than politics. So and it's just about being a good human, isn't it? So, yes, that's what he's doing and there's an army of us behind it make So that he succeeds and that these kids get a good education get a good meal and their tummy and can live have the opportunity to live a better life and make it better for future Generations. So yeah, it's only a small part of the world that were helping. But yeah it you start there. You know, what's that saying small Akon's great. What's great, oak trees. Is that it? Yeah, something like that my company, wh-what what brilliant cause that Though. Yeah, I mean it's like again it comes back to I'm a mum and I would do anything for my girls. I will yeah, so if there's other mums out there that can't for whatever reason can't do that. I want to be able to help them in a small way. I haven't got tons and tons of money and the opportunity to really make massive changes, but if I can make a change to you know, one or two three or four mums lives and their kids then I will So and I think in our country we take it for granted, you know, after this podcast. I'm going to go downstairs and cook dinner for my family and that's easy for me to do. So, yeah. Yeah. So yeah, so yeah one is hell it's and the community we've got what's that greatly from the other guys that are part of it are are just they're so passionate and they care so much and they're funny and they're all right. They're all they all love running. All very very interesting. So that's the other thing and like the quality. That's that's what I couldn't quite get over when I first bought my my I've got like a blue hoodie thing that I wear all the time. I love it. I've had it for probably about six or seven no possibly getting on for a year now actually and it's been in the wash so much because I love it. I wear it all the time and it still feels just as nice as it was when I first got it. So that's everything is he's got really good quality. Materials so so yes good for you as well as a runner. So that's pretty good. We'll definitely will put Lincoln as well as to someone if people that would be awesome. Thank you. Check out the his website because that is just brilliant cause and even like we said like one item of clothing doesn't cost much notice do a poem month of dinners. That's Mom. Yeah, and it helps a child with their education. It keeps them in school a bit longer. So yeah, it's good. You've said quite a few times and you know, you are a mum to and you'd do anything for your girls and I've seen you know, that they've even well your eldest has got involved with running as well, which is amazing. And she said the whole parkrun hasn't she she's done part one a few times and we actually went for a walk in the more than Hills this afternoon and my youngest managed to put her hand in poo like in dog poo like within Kids of being up on the trail. So my husband quickly running back down to the like the public toilets to wash your hands and and whilst we were waiting my eldest and Mommy give me your watch I want to do some right I want to do some running so she just ran back and forth as fast as she could and she just loves it and she and then we were walking off so I'm going to go run on the trails and she just jogs off down the trails and yeah, she really enjoys it and then we ran down the hill and she loved that. She's had her arms out. So he's flight we're flying we're flying and it it's I love seeing that it's that's what's really nice is when you see kids enjoying what you love. Yeah, that's really nice like at Park when there's always kids at part friend isn't there and it's really it's really nice. I'd love to see more of them when you see a whole family down there together. It's really nice. It's just you and your volunteering you cheer them on you give them a high five and yeah, they love it. It's yeah, it's nice to see kids involved in running and it's just so good for them. It sets them up for life. I wish I'd done. So go so unhealthy How would how do you manage to juggle your busy family life with your work and your own personal goals and you're running obviously training now towards the marathon and race to the Tower. I'm very very lucky in that. I've got a very supportive husband who also likes to run so he gets it. So when I was training for the tower last year we before I signed up we obviously we sat down with a conversation and and because he'd he he's done long distances like the running to to Birmingham he knew what was going to be evolved. He sort of said, it's fine if this is what you really want to do, I'll support you as long as I can still have my Thursday nights bike was like, yeah, of course. So yeah, we just support each other and I do a lot of my my training and my lunch hour. I'm really lucky that where I work. I'm near a gym so I can punch the gym as much as I love the gym. I have to go because you know, if you don't do your strength training you get injured like I did and yeah do a lot of it in my lunch. I was a do a lot of it after the girls are in bed. I've tried to be a morning Runner before people get up. I really really tried that and occasionally, I really enjoy it but more often or not. My snuggly warm bed is where I want to be with a cup of tea, but I think I might have to try and do that a bit more especially training for London the yeah. I just you just fit it in where you can date you I guess lunch hours. And I know there's a lot of people that do they run to work to do like a run commute, which is probably something I'll try doing. I just means I have to be very organized with making sure I've got the clothes and shampoo at work. So I can have a shower and make myself look presentable not have to run with a bag full of stuff. Yeah, but yeah, I guess it's just about being organized and if you're lucky enough to have people around you that are supportive of what your dreams and goals and things are hmm. Then that's how we've made it work. Lots of brownie points are earned between the two of us. I'd say what and yeah run commute with Daphne good idea and you're right. So very lucky that you've got the gem right on your doorstep to do that. Yeah lunch very lucky. Yeah, because it's hard for those like for example for myself like where I work. There isn't a shower so I wouldn't be able to have much time. Yeah, I guess that's nuts. Yeah, I guess that's what people get up and run first thing in the morning. Yeah. Yeah and then can get ready and go. Yeah Tom. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, especially now coming into the winter. Yeah, because you know, you said you'd sometimes train after the gills of gone to bed. You know, would you will you find yourself doing that and the winter evenings start? I think so. Yeah, so I run with my club in the summer. I I'll run it with six. It's light its name what have you but in the winter? I'll probably do a lot of running with my club black pair. Joggers just because it's safety in numbers, isn't it? And it's horrible is rubbish, but the you know, I'm a woman and I am well, yeah these things happen and that I hate that just because I'm a girl I have to consider these things, but well we all do it and I'm constantly telling people please make sure your Having bright clothes or got a lamp or something like that on a head torch or whatever. So people can see I see so many people running in dark clothes in the winter hat Slammer brakes on for some of the other day actually because they just literally just shot out in front of me and I we were just we were just we just turned off the main road and I was coming kind of starting to go up our road and someone just shot out in front of me and I was just so why do people wear dark clothes you can't see them. So there's that element. So yeah, I would running running with other people through the winter because I was pretty lonely isn't it a voice but in the winter when you can we have no views. Yeah, the winter so hard is that we just so much easier to motivate be motivated in the spring and in the summer for yourself like for anyone training for a spring Marathon. A lot of the bulk of training is done through winter winter evenings morning's and it's a lot darker and colder. So yeah you like what or who keeps You inspired under-motivated that hopefully be able to help you through this one phase. Well, I think so since I've when I finished the tower I didn't then have a plan for anything and I think that's really sort of made me realize I needed. I'm the kind of person I need to have a plan so have been accountable to somebody and know what It is I've got to do that day that I think that's going to really motivate me because at the minute I go out. I'm I mean this week. I haven't really run a talk when I haven't been at all this week because I've had I've got the start of a cold coming and it's very easy just to go I don't want to but actually that's probably very sensible thing to do but actually over the last couple of months. I've not been I did that half marathon. I did really hardly any training for it, which is really stupid really tough to go to not do any training for that kind of Studs but it's because I had no plan and I've just sort of bumbled along through the side which actually been quite nice on the other hand is that it's just running for the joy of running and not having a goal or any of that but with something like London, I know for me to stay motivated. I need to have a plan and then it's the other people around me. The the Instagram Community is just it's something else. I've met so many incredible people on there. I'm inspired daily. Every time I click through my phone. There's another you know, there's something else in there and wherever that someone smashing out like like Jordan with her but in her efforts out in the desert just recently that was just incredible. She's that girl is so talented and she works so hard and then and then I've got how's that start--just starting they're running journey and that inspires me. Just as much so I just love I love meeting new people. I'm meeting my friend Katie different Katie. She's she was Kitty, but she's now Katie runs rides. Matt had met up with her in the summer. And that was so nice to meet her because like we chatted over Instagram and then we've actually booked to do a Maverick race in the in the new year which were really excited about along with a couple other girls lady called Jex and then another A lady called Natty and I just I'm so excited we've set up a little what's that booth? And and then I'm meeting meeting up with a girl called tizzy and Becker as well and we're going to go Open Water swimming together and it's like meat see what following these people and then meeting them in real life. That's what motivates me as well because it's so exciting. I love meeting new people and hearing their stories and seeing how what they achieve and like biggie be Cheerleading yeah that yeah and a going and watching events and and volunteering at things like parkrun and and seeing people achieve what it is. They've set out to do whether that is, you know, running a park being the winner of part run and smashing and getting a new PB or or taking your kid out for the first time or part run or just doing your very first part one or actually just getting out there and just running part one and just enjoying it that that's what Buyers me. It's just yeah mix of the elites and the athletes and and we'll athletes out my in the and the US everyday Runners. Yeah. Yeah couldn't agree with you more. Yeah, you got a lot of things coming up which wouldn't which of the Maverick races you do it and so it's the one in Fabrics. It's a it's a it's in the dark, which is really scary. So I hear there's bears and and And wolves and things it's it's somewhere in Oxfordshire. I don't really know many of the details all I know it's it's one of their dark in the dark races, which look they've I think they've just started doing them for this season and I've seen a few pictures go off on Instagram. It looks like so much fun and they will have pizza and beer and stuff at the end. But I did a local dark room like through the forest. This winter while last winter and it was so much fun because like run I love riding the trails. But the trail in the dark is just that's something else. That's because you can only see what's just in front of you with your headlamp and you hear the sounds but then you can hear whoops and cheers and from other pop, you know parts of the trail where you can hear the other Runners and that's quite a and also the other good thing is you can't see how big the hills are which is always a bonus. Yes, I'm really really looking at something different with one person. I've met once before and to other people who have chatted to three a long time over it on Instagram, but never ever met so I'm really excited. And yeah, we're gonna go and have a girly weekend away with no cocktails. And yeah and no no dancing or any lights is gonna be fun on the trails and pizza and loads of mud glorious not So fun. Yeah. Yeah. What Carly what would you say is your real reason for running your as I like to call it to a hashtag why I run my hashtag would be a very very very very very long last. I've got loads of reasons that I run. It's not just one One Singular thing. I run because I enjoy it for most I do. I love running. I love the feeling that it gives me when I finished it, especially when I really can't be bothered to go out and then I go and do it and I yeah, that's a really as I said bottling it that feeling meeting new people. Just my kids fact that my eldest is really enjoys it as well and just seeing her loving it and yeah all they all. Things about my husband when we had Heidi our youngest he started running then like really getting into running and seeing what he achieved that really inspired me. And I think that's what sort of made me think. Maybe I could give this a go as well. And yeah all the friends that I've met through this community and I guess but at the minute my biggest reason to run his is my father-in-law, he's he's my Mo he's you know, he's got terminal cancer. It sucks. But he is the most positive person and he just gets on with life and he's like, yep got cancer, but I'll get it had my chemo but we crack on with life we take with but keep putting one foot in front of the other and we get on with it and we don't sweat the small stuff. And yeah, so he's my reason at the minute my biggest reason at the minute. But yeah, I have lots of reasons. But yeah at the moment it's him. What was your father-in-law called? Stave and what goes in cookie cookie cookie? Yeah. Yeah for the in prison especially as you said earlier, like just how positive he is. Just like the really of how we met. I mean, he's consultant said to him Surah now going off at a tangent but his consultant said that the cancer had the cancer. He's got his very very rare and he said to be honest you probably should have died a long time ago, but you're still here and I and I think like that intrigued him and we're all convinced. It's because of his positive outlook on life. He's not that it's like he's got a cold he's had enough. It's not mine flu, he's got he's like if he was me and he was a runner and I'm like, I've got a cold this week. I don't feel very well. He'd still be out smashing an ultramarathon. He's just got that kind of attitude to life. He he yeah, it's incredible and it's inspiring and it and he's just very yeah. He's amazing and I think straight people sorry. So no, sorry you carry on you. Now you saying I wish more people could somehow I wish I could bottle his attitude. Yeah and give it to people Yeah, Mmm Yeah five. I know. I was just going to say this even more amazing how people are going to want black. Yep. I'm going to join you on your 12 Day Marathon because Steve Brilliance for cookie cookie, Bob. Yeah. Another good question, but what because you've known quite a few so I'm intrigued to know this. What is the best thing that runs brought to your life? maybe freedom not happy. Yeah, because Yeah, I never used to think I could do. I was good at stuff. I still have that feeling I'm not very good at stuff. And then when I do these events, I'd sometimes have a bit of I mean the fact that you want you want ya doing this podcast on my imposter syndrome big style, but when I'm out running, it's just me at my most. I'm actually I'm with someone else running but you know, yeah, it's me. It's my run and it's It's no one can take that away from me and I'm out there and whether it's just a little tunnel along the river near where I live or up in the mob and Hills or in blinking long mend in Shropshire will cut. So I mean, I'm not I've not running big beautiful cities or or Adventures around the world and you know along the I don't know Appalachian Trail in America or anything. I mean, I would absolutely love to that would be incredible but at the moment I Have responsibilities here. So they can't do things like that. But one day but it I'm just a normal Runner, but I just I love the feeling it gives me and the sense of achievement you get after a run whether it's for an event or just going out and just doing a quick little one or two miles. I like that feeling and it's that feeling of freedom and you're in control. Does that make sense? Yeah, totally. I also really love the community. It's given me the people. I've met through it. Yeah. Brilliant and do you want to happen to have a favorite uplift uplift in on motivational phrases and wide like keeps you going during tough times? Yeah, so I read a book by a lady called Mimi and Anderson and she she came to running quite late on in life, and she had a severe eating disorder when she was younger. And even into when she became a mum when she was a bit older and in her husband's of helped her through that with a lot of help and support from obviously professionals and what have you but she she wrote this book about how she came to running and she she I think she just ran like a first half marathon or maybe a first something like a first 10k of never run further than a half marathon. She started off running in her gym on the treadmill and then she did the the the marathon Marathon disturb the one through the desert with two of her girlfriends and at the end of it they finished they cross the line like this purple sparkly dresses and has since then she's gone on to to win and achieved some incredible events that she's she's run from John o'groats to Land's End and she held the record for a very I think it's only recently been broken the women's record. And then she ran across America. She's run the Arctic or Antarctic one of those polar cap math and things she's done. It's incredible what she's achieved and throughout it all in in her book when she when she was training for the marathon disarmed this first big event having only one half of my return. I remember reading his these words and it said how will I know if I don't try and that just really stuck with me so How we when people sell know I could never be a runner. I can't run a mile that alone 50 miles or whatever it is. How you know, if you don't try and you know, he I say to my kids, how are you know, you don't like that Sprout if you don't try it and I kind of like the same thing. You don't know unless you try you might really like it and you might find you're really good at it or might find you hate it but you won't know unless you try and I think that's that's I think we can apply that to. And things in life. Yeah. Yeah. That's my that's the one when it gets tough. How do you know if you don't try just got to keep trying one foot in front of the other so it's a fantastic book. You should read it if you haven't made me understand this book. Yeah, it's very good. I've definitely heard of here. So I'll have to check that. Yeah. Yes. I think it's on Instagram as well. So you can you can have a look for her on there. She's someone that you should interview on your podcast. Yes get her she would be artists. Dorothy would tell you I bet would be incredible but I was actually that's one of the that's one of the questions. Who would you love to hear on this podcast was going to be D. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's a couple of others I'd say I would definitely say lady called Ralph Berlin. So she she's on Instagram and she's honest quite big on Twitter as well. She she's one of Chris Cooper. Business partners for runners hail and she's just done a run 600 Days running. She's still going run streak but her her passion for runners Hill to be a success and her dedication to it is just phenomenal and she's but she's such a nice person really really genuine really supportive and she's she's really good friends with Alistair Jones, you know the guy who writes all the running it Runners poems. Yes. She's really good friends with him and she's helping him launched his business as well. She's just she can she can just see an idea and she just makes it Sparkle and yeah, she's she's amazing. I love I love Ralph. I'd also say Mel Mel bound from this mum runs so I know Mal through Friend of mine and we went I went to my friend's hen do probably about seven or eight years ago. Now, I think it was when I was proud. I was just pregnant with my eldest are me and I met Mal there because they'd gone to UNI together and Mal was just toying with the idea of setting up her own business. She worked for the agency. She's toying with the idea of setting up their own business or going freelance or something like that and then about a year old. Maybe 18 months later. She put this post out on Facebook seeing if anybody wanted to go meet up and go for a run with her and from that she's launched this mum runs, which is this incredible community of mums. Who run that and she's I think they're in Bristol London bath, but they've got a global Community as well. And the idea is that it's just about getting mums who who may be used to run or fancied having a go at it. But it's very much about that. I don't see myself as a runner. But Mao is you are you put your trainers on you've turned up your hair and you're doing it and and her dedication to making sure that every woman every mum think knows that she can be a runner as she is a runner and they ran these they've got these really cool sweatshirts that have all these really cool slogans on like I've got one that says run Marley cake, but they did this campaign where it was runners run a full stop. Pop you know, you were saying about earlier on how so many people just think that they're not a runner or white. I'm not a fast runner. I'm not a runner right? I don't run very far. I'm not a runner mouths like no. No you are you've got your trainers on your hair. You've turned up you're doing it. Look at you running and she's she's very very passionate about that and she's so that was five years ago and it's now this incredible incredible community and I'm a massive fan of this one runs and I think Mal would be really interesting interview and and yeah, yeah so she'd be awesome. So it smells the Heinz the Spellbound her name is Yaya and behind this mum runs. Well, I didn't know that but I didn't know who run it. So that's really interesting. Thanks for that. Yeah. Yeah brilliant. So John, what are we I've just got to let go back and make a list and make this list. My safe because I've had so many recommendations is trying to get round getting around everyone getting the tire but it's good because someone them one of my friends who I think I mean she's recently started running, but she asked me what don't you like run out of people to interview and I was like no massive. I don't think I've ever run out of people to interview the podcast because there's so many people out there. This is the only people with interesting stories, isn't that yeah, which is great. Most stories are normal people like, you know, you interviewed James the other week the yes morning coffee and his stories and I love his story and he was just so he's just a regular guy like the rest of us face just doing incredible things and he like I think he's got that same attitude. He you know, you just give it. Well. Yeah, see if you can that's one thing like a little training interviewed like an array of gas, but I do like interviewing people like me people like you your everyday Runner Like that, do do those additional, you know, raising money or causes or have crazy accomplishments. They might you know be a writer or you know, they've got a hustle on the side of the main job, but the everyday run it's that that because when I used to listen to when I wear I still do when I'm listening to run and podcasts. I love listening to the everyday Runner as well as the elite athlete because they are so relatable. There's a lot to take away from it and actually Those Elite athletes all came from being a yeah. Well most of them unless I guess they were childhood stars. But even then they still were normal people excited. They're still normal people. They're just they've just found something. They're really really good at yeah, you know that guy who run that sub two hour marathon. He's just a normal guy. You know, it just smashes out a sub two hour marathon. That was he the man to watch He's My who's this but I mean, is it was it his he says He really cool friends that he has his house. Like he's only as good as like like something to do with his team. So I guess not. It's not just him. It's no yes. Yeah, and he like when he's out in his camps when he goes away. He's very much like Hands-On like, you know, like because he's if you think about it, he's an elite athlete. He sponsored he gets money, but he doesn't like he doesn't just because he's trying to do this Mission this project and he's Money or you know it gets this sponsorship. He won't say. Oh I can't you know, I can't help with the cooking and the cleaning like he's not back works hard. Oh, yeah. Yeah and it's his attitude. He's just he he is really grateful like every minor thing in life. Yeah. Well, he knows he's got to work. He's got to work hard at it and it is a team effort. Hmm. And yeah that that's equally as an inspiring. It's the it's the The full mix isn't it? It's the was it a smorgasbord will mix all the cheese is please yeah. But final question for you, if you could give others listening three tips to get in started in running or to like further their distance because perhaps some people are listening they've started running but they're not quite you know, they haven't quite caught up to that 10K or half distance or Ultra. Maybe what advice would you give people? I would definitely advise don't don't perhaps don't do what I did and go from a 10K to an altar and six months because I got lots of injuries from that. I was a bit silly. So I've learned my lesson, but what I would say is actually don't worry about the distance the way I trained for it was about it was just time on feet. So, you know how you get a couch to 5K that feels like a big task to get to 5K, but if you say I'm just going to Run for 30 minutes, or I'm just actually even right back to the start. I'm just going to run for a few minutes. Mmm, and then I walk for a bit and then I run for it if you do it that way and it's the same from starting from scratch having never run. Are you run for a few minute or a minute and then you walk for a bit and you run from it. It's the same when you're building the distances or it was for me anyway, and I found that rather than saying right. I'm going to go and run once I don't like the Half Marathon distance is what I'm going to go and run. 15 miles I'm going to what I actually did was right. I'm going to run for two and a half hours now and see how far I can go and it but there wasn't it was just a see how far I can go. It wasn't I'm going to get to this distance and there were definite like distance goals as I got further in but when I was starting out with it was just about time on feet and building that up. Otherwise, I think it's too it's too big. It's far more achievable to say what I'm going to run for 30. Wouldn't it be great if I can run for 30 solid minutes rather than I'm going to run 5k because actually everyone runs at a different pace and that's actually that is okay to run at a different pace because we're not all fast Runners and we're not also run as we run at our own pace. And so that would be you wanted three a tip number one would be that yeah, try to Trails definitely try the trails. If you've never run on the trails before go out and find your local Trails because and that's not necessarily up some big mountains. That might be your local wood or it might be if you've got a common near you it might be that it's it's it's so nice. It's springy underfoot on a trail and the views are beautiful and Nature's there and you can stop and have a little snack and look at the view. The trails are just there's something very very special about the trails. If you have got a hill or a mountain near you and you know your way around it or you can find someone that knows their way around it then yeah go and go and experience that but yeah, it's I love I love trail running if you think that road running is I don't want to run cause I don't like roads. It's too hard maybe go and try the trails because yeah, just yeah, I love them and then tip number three. Oh I get well, this is my health and safety head. I'm such a worrier. Tell someone where you going. Yeah, always tell someone where you're going and roughly how long you think you'll be because there's yeah you could fall over and hurt yourself and be stuck and have smashed your phone and you can't get back. So, you know, and there's all worse things than that, but just make sure you let someone know we got especially now it's getting darker and yeah, yeah health and safety. That's a great one. We haven't had one yet. So I love you actually all three of those. I think you've you've yeah, three of those are three brand-new running tips that I love good. Good good. Oh, thank you so much for taking the time today to chat with me. And for what? Yes. I'm very sad that you don't do your little quiz anymore. Ah, yes. I be meeting of your kind sap back. Should I do a makeshift one really quickly? I'm going to be hard because I haven't made it. So like I'm gonna be like thinking as hard as you are. Okay, 5K or Ultra 5K at the moment peanut butter sandwich or jelly babies or peanut butter sandwich pre-race meal or post-race Neil post-race meal every time. Beer or wine wine crisps or chips tips winter will summer run in Winter. I think back after the Marvin training. I know yeah, that's me getting an achievement running with friends or running with music. Oh running over friends. Yeah. Yeah. Early morning or late evening run evening. race or training Race, I think yeah. Yeah and the thrill boiling boiling hot or freezing cold Rod freezing cold. So that was quite good considering out too quickly think that off. Bring yeah, what was funny was who it was John wasn't it? Wasn't it? John who did it to me at the end of the podcast? Yeah. Yeah. That was funny. Yeah, that's great. I think maybe that's what you should do. You should ask your guests to bring a quiz question for ya. Yeah. There we are. We'll do that don't know you yet has to be spur of the moment. You're not allowed to pre know the question. Just just a normal just any kind of question, but with like a one or the Other answer yeah. Yeah, you know new content a copy what I do for a living like thank you for your time Carlo. No, thank you so much. Thank you. Yeah, thank you for letting us Betty. Let me hop on about child a massive. Thank you so much. You're welcome. Just tell everyone where they can go and follow you over on Instagram yet. So I am girl run the shires that was girl underscore run underscore the Shire so It worked. Thank you faculty see Granny face. Thanks so much for having me. Bye. Bye. Bye. Thank you guys so much for joining today and listening to not another Runner podcast. Please tell your friends and family who you think would enjoy the content. I'll be sharing. Don't forget you can get in touch with me over on Instagram by another Runner. Let me know your thoughts on the Pod casting suggestions on guests or topics. This is greatly appreciated. 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Carly, a wife and mother of two started running around three years ago. Unfortunately like many, Carly did not identify herself as a Runner immediately, until one day she no longer judged herself and had fallen in love with running and then saw herself as a runner. Now - Carly loves to get outdoors, she loves running the trails with friends; Opting to run with others and socialise over any lone runs. Carly has had an epic year, from completing her first 10k in September 2018, to running her first half the Forest of Dean Half in March 2019, to falling into longer distances; tackling a trail Marathon and then taking on the Threshold Trail Series' Race to The Tower Ultra-marathon and running 41 miles!!! Sadly injury dictated the end to her day, and meant Carly could not finish the race, but nonetheless Carly has achieved and gained so much in just a small space of time. Along the journey she has made great friends, and has inspired her daughters, she has raised money for brilliant charities, and become an Ambassador for the incredible movement and mission that is Runners Heal. A beautifully inspiring person, with big goals set for 2020. Links: Carly Barnes girl_run_the_shire Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/girl_run_the_shire/  Threshold trail Series https://www.thresholdtrailseries.com/ Natalie - Not Another Runner Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/notanotherrunner/ Blog: https://notanotherrunner.home.blog/ Twelve Day Marathon Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/twelvedaymarathon/ Website: http://www.twelvedaymarathon.com/ Runners Heal Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/runnersheal/ Website: https://www.runners-heal.com/ 