Hello cheap homegrown Nation. This is shame come back from the chief homegirl podcast. And on Today Show. I have Punic Punic can be found on Instagram at ponic underscore farmer. He's a European cannabis grower and he reached out to me a few weeks ago and said he thinks he can contribute to the show and after talking with him. I agreed he comes on the show today to talk about Auto flowers and why he enjoys growing them this podcast episode topics are wide-ranging. We not only talk about growing Auto flowers, but we'll talk about his grow room set up lighting stress trading and a few of his interesting cannabis stories when he lived in Asia this podcast was a lot of fun. I look forward to having panic on in the future. Please rate review And subscribe and enjoy the show. Hello and welcome to the cheap home grow podcast a show for individuals that want to learn more about growing cannabis indoors. This is a podcast dedicated to helping you with your indoor growing Adventure. You'll learn how to grow your own and not have to rely on others for your medicine. The cheap homegirl podcast will also feature timely interviews with cannabis industry veterans shaping the culture and politics of cannabis. All right here is your host Shane McCormick and the cheap home grow podcast. Hello everybody. This is Shane McCormick from the cheap home grow podcast. And on Today Show. I have European cannabis grower who is from Lisbon Portugal. He can be found on Instagram at ponic underscore farmer. That is pron. I see underscore farmer and mr. Panicky. You know, like I said, he is from Europe and and on They show we are going to be talking about growing automatics in Europe. We're going to be talking about Led panels nutrients low stress training flushing. He's going to be telling us about a story when he you know, when he I guess recently grew a photo period plant in Herm doubt and also he is going to be telling us a story or maybe a couple of stories about how How I guess Asian cannabis laws are well, I guess pretty I guess they can be pretty harsh and he's got a few stories there which certainly sound intriguing. So this is a wide or this is going to be a wide-ranging discussion. But without further Ado ponic. If you could could you please tell my audience a little bit about yourself and then we can get right into the various topics of conversation. I say in chat. Thanks for having me. Yeah, my name's Pike. I'm based in Lisbon Portugal. I'm originally from London in the UK and I've been growing a bunch of different Autos over the last twelve fifteen months and experimenting the different strains different techniques different go environments, and I've been dabbling with going over the years but over the past year 12 months or so. I've been really figuring out these automatics and how they've improved over the last few years. And yeah, no, I'm I've lived in Asia for the last 15 years in various countries there so I can talk about some experiences. I had there with the different types of cannabis and the growing situation over there and I'm back in Europe now enjoying it here and we're looking forward to talking to you. All right, man. Well, that's enough. I do appreciate you being on the show and in really I mean I haven't I haven't had a lot of Europeans. Come on the show I have although I have had Mackey from from from Percy's grow room. He was on the show maybe a Alex ago and he's actually part of my Sunday night panel. So but I mean other than him, I don't think I've had any other European. So I mean me personally I would love to you know, get your opinion or your opinions on growing automatics in Europe. And I mean, I guess my first question is I mean is it well, I mean, you know, I mean not that you would know what it's like to grow in America, but I mean from what I read from what I I understand, you know Spain and you know, I don't know how familiar you know, you are with automatics. But you know from from my previous guests. They have told me or they have told me that Spain has done a lot of work on automatics. So I mean if you could I mean why why are automatics I guess more popular in Europe than they are in America. I mean, what's the you know, I mean why? There you know why? Yeah, that's a good point. I mean in Spain it's really taken off now. I mean that the laws are becoming more and more liberal there when you actually allowed to go at home now and they have the the social clubs that you can get. You know what they want a bit like dispensaries, but they're not quite it's not quite legal. It's kind of a loophole in the law enables them local Growers to sell to these dispensaries and people can become members locals can become members and buy from them but the automatic thing and I think it's the time. I think it's a shortened time for growth time. I mean, you know, you look, In at eight nine ten weeks to harvest from see they mean and I think that people it's almost unnoticed easier. But you know, you don't have to worry about the light situation schedule of the lights, you know, it seems like people it's just more accessible to people who are new to Growing I think maybe and the fact that they're they're promoted so widely here as well. I mean, you got all the classic Dutch can be Sensi seeds such passion. They've all got the auto The photos now now those and I was at an event a couple weeks ago in spannabis in in Barcelona and it was huge as amazing. I think that's been the biggest Expo in Europe, but it was there were loads of seed companies. There are loads of different gadgets and grow equipment. It was brilliant as I meet the different companies there and yes Spain's go taking off for sure where I am in Portugal. It's slight. It's like they're decriminalized all drugs that are into that year 2000 but You still not allowed to grow it really? So I wake up our plans here in that. I think they're going to care too much but it's not actually, you know legal yet, but I think I'm waiting for Europe to do it because it Europe's funny place. I always thought it was quite you know, Progressive and ahead for with this whole cannabis seen apart from Holland. Obviously. It's a little bit behind, you know, I think Luxembourg going for recreational next year and maybe if they start it the rest of Europe will follow or see I think they watching Canada closely. See how that goes. But I mean, you know, it's pretty hard. I think the whole the whole world is changing their views and it's slightly somehow sure based on what's happened in America as well. Right, right. Yeah. Well, I mean, you know one thing about Cannon I think they were the first I'm pretty sure they were there they were the first industrialized Nation to make cannabis federally legal. So yeah, you know and and you know, I'm even here in the states. I mean certain, you know certain certain. States in America cannabis is now legal but you know for whatever reason if you cross into another, you know another state it's it's not legal. Yes funny in that that enough, you know, as an outsider you think you would never think it's um, so different in different states. You think it's just one little country. But yeah, I mean, I was in Washington two years ago and they experience going to spend dispenser unit to The Dispensary stuff, which is interesting. That's cool. Oh really? Well because bit pricey though, but I mean it was decent it was deep. Start I just said it's not you know, it's interesting for me to go into the shop and buy and it was okay. Well, there's me if I was you know, I mean, let me ask you this. I mean is is American chemist and he different and I guess well, is it different tasting than European candidates or is it was announced that the active site similar kind of thing. I tried a few different strains ones in Washington and yeah just to remind me of the stuff in Holland, you know the Dutch stuff to use to get so yeah, that was it was good. And it was as excited about it. And I think it's funny how you get all the different label, you know, but I ever was and the artwork and stuff the other day like branding and stuff. Yeah, that's cool. And I thought it was great. It was really good come in. All right, sir. Well, you know in terms of your introduction, I mean, let me ask you this. Is there anything else you know that I am missing or you know anything else that you would like to say before we go before we move on to the to the growing aspect of the podcast. I think I think you've done a good job though. I've just recently become a test grower for SAS buds. All right, and yeah, so that's interesting. So there's certainly some Mexican Airlines some cream cookies. Yeah. I just finished today Girl Scout Cookies by fast, but they're just actually trimmed it this morning. So that's trying now. Yeah, which is which is good. And also I tried out the Blackberry. Hmm. Okay, so the purple buds and I got sponsorship from Dinah Femme and Sensi seeds so they send me some seeds. So I'm going to be growing quite a few different strains over the coming months, which is an exciting for me. I really love the haze. You know, I'm a real huge Hayes fan. So yes, I've got some Manisha Haze and silver haze. And so yeah. No, I am excited about that. You know something I mean, let me ask you this, right? I mean, how do you because I've been kind of exploring this myself. How do you become a or Heidi become sponsored? I mean, how does that how does it work? I mean, I know that they give you seeds but did they give you any money or That my like not in the cards right now. Ya know the moment. Well, so what I did I just I reached out again. I was at that spannabis event a couple of weeks ago. She's fine. And before that I had contacted them through my Instagram and they looked at my stuff and they're like interest nice. Tell them along. I'm gonna promote you start your seeds your strains are start. If you just want to give me some some Merchants some seeds they were fine with it. So there's not there's no money. But at the moment I'm going to happen to build some good relationships with them. Sure, and you know have fun growing their staff and smoke the weed that we actually get done, you know, so it's pretty fun, but it's just nice to have the contacts. I'm to be honest. I'm really hoping and waiting that once Italy, you know, once it changes here, I can hopefully get into the industry, you know doing something with the growing aspect of it right see right? Well, I mean, you know, I mean, I know that we I know this wasn't exactly on the topic but I mean what me, what would you want to do? What would you want to open up your own? Shop, would you want to you know grow and sell to sell to I guess dispensaries out there. I mean how I mean what what's your plan? Yeah, that's that's the thing. So it depends how the sister Lena the law would set it up, but I would love to I don't know. I don't know. I hadn't America it might change but the shops can't grow their own in Holland. It's like that before they can't grow your own way inside it. So another either do a grow and sell to the shops. Or actually I do have in mind that workshops. Nice as well. So I know I know it depends on what model they use. Obviously he right but it will be called her baby. Like, you know, I could specialist kind of craft cannabis the shop that you know, it's all like locally homegrown or whatever, you know sure that'd be kind of cool and having different trying out the different strains. And yeah, and I would be interesting just keeping its kind of small scale but and I you is you never know how it's going to work out. You always grab those big companies coming in and trying to take the market. Right, right. Yeah. For yeah. Yeah, but be awesome though. I mean that's you know, I know I know a lot of people talk about that. But I mean, I don't know I feel a bit I feel a bit differently about that. I mean, you know, especially here, you know in the state's. I mean the the, you know, the bigger players they are certainly moving in there's no doubt about it, but I just I don't know I feel that cannabis the whole cannabis space, you know, it's such a I mean, it's such right now. It's so Only small it's there's so much opportunity there. Yeah, you know, I mean, yes, the bigger players are moving in. There's no doubt about it, but there's still a lot of room there to to grow and to expand and you know, if you have a unique and and you know an interesting idea, you know, I think you know, I mean no matter yeah, I think I think you can certainly go for it. And if it's good enough that you'll you know, perhaps win. Yeah. I know you I mean, it's so many opportunities. That's what's so exciting about it. The whole show is such a new industry and so many different things can happen. You could sort of shape or you want it out of you know, other sort of operation or route, you know into the industry therefore definitely exciting times. I think I think the I think you know, it's definitely changing like worldwide. Absolutely. Mr. Panic, but now now Panic I'll tell you what let's let's move the conversation forward. Let's let's talk a little let's talk about growing. Right and yeah, really, the first thing that I would like for you to discuss is your grow room setup. So if you could could you please give me and my listeners a visual of how it is and you know, and basically how you set up your grow room. Okay, so I've got a little story. I've got my house so it's nice. Got two tents at the moment. I've got a 4x4 with a kind LED 600 in there. Okay, which covers it covers most of the sides of the tent aren't you know, the the light Point straight down so it could be interesting to get some side lights around the edges of my growing but then I've got obviously got the carbon filter in there and several fans. I got the monkey fans that oscillating fans as well and the in the intake is there. R and I'm at the moment. I've got a Dutch Passion crop growing I'm not sponsored by them, but I actually I can tie this into the her me story. Okay in my last photo grow. I was two weeks away from the end. I was six weeks into flour and I was excited and I suddenly realized I thought hmm. It doesn't smell them. I should almost felt myself my grandchildren to be pretty good and looking closely and I checked and I just also That I went through it and I spoke to another another guy known I was telling him that he's give me advice I waited basically I just that I was sad day but I just spent the day in front of my fire. It was wintertime as I spent my day my fire just checking the seeded out cross onto the fire because I thought it was something else but I think it was the lightly that I had going for some reason. I had an extension cord in my in my tent which gives us a red light. And I think that might be the cause of it. So anyways, that's passion will great there were brilliant. I told them about it and they said you know what choose any strange choose three strains you like and we'll give you an AR-15 seeds. So I was like a billion so they sent it to me now. I chose the Autos go thought you know what I'm going to do a bunch of Autos now mmm and and get through the grow and have, you know have a six-month success with it. So I did and I'm in the middle of it now and they great I've got my one of my favorite stones are in Japan. I just reminds me of the 90s and I think back in the Jesus made that I got orange bud and Colorado cookies as well. So they're going really well. So they I'm growing in soil. Okay. Um, I've tried a few different types of soil. I've got them in the can a professional now the Terrace oil which is great. Okay easy on the nutrients are the beginning obviously like with Autos, right? I always give it a good two and a half three weeks until I even think about adding any kind of nutrients to them and he needs actually yeah. What what newts have you used in the past? So I've been using the Advance Nutrients lately. So what I did I thought I'd experiment with it. I accept my people might think I'm a bit crazy, but I actually went out and bought the smallest. I think it was 500 milliliters of each additive the whole line. I bought it. I went I'm going to try this out I've got so I've got blue go and micro and I've got all of the side additives on it. Okay. So every what I've done is I went up in part of the four and I've been looking at other people's advice now trying out this schedule that it's kind of overfeeding them, but I tried it out on the last fast buds crop and at the end after about 10 weeks, I you know, every few days are given different additives to boost the different parts the different stages of the plant growth and last week. I was flush about to flush and I just checked my PPM run. Off and it was 3,000 PPM run off and I was like, there's no way this is you know, there's no way I'm going to cut this yet. So I've been I was flushed it for about two weeks. Mmm. Okay regular regular flushing regular Matt, you know, I did three times the amount of my my pot for a while, but I just can't let down a bit because it was just I didn't like it being so saturated all the time. Right? Well, if you could just just go back to your little bit. Could you explain to the to the listeners? What do you mean by by regular flushing? I mean maybe like two or three times? Week with say 20 percent runoff or yes. Oh, yes differently. Oh, well, I've been I use I usually do that every three days or so with back at 20 percent runoff, but the following this this nutrient schedule it's less water more often. So what I did then I thought I'll just do a liter a day. Hmm, which gave me a flight 10 percent runoff or five seven percent runoff much less but more often and I was checking that run off each time every day. Day, and it was going down slightly. Then I just increased it a little bit. I just tried to sort of Judge it you know, and I got it down to about 500 PPM and then I just thought I could that's enough because it's 120 out of the tap anyway, so about 380 left, so I thought I'll do it. And so yeah because the one of the plants was yellowing leaves a yellow which is always a good sign because it's using up its own energy, but the other one was dark greens. I thought you know definitely going to be a it looks like it's overfed for sure. And so the flushing I think you know sold out but it was interesting to use those Advance Nutrients because there's so much marketing with them and I wasn't, you know, I've had all kinds of different perspectives on that brand and yeah, so I'm trying it now in my Dutch bash. I'm going to finish off the batch that I've got and I'm going to go to organic. I think I'm not sure I have not researched that much yet. But I want a friend of mine in Canada swears by live soil. So the good friend of mine, so I might be trying that. Now just goes next time right? Yeah, I mean why not right. I mean now yeah in terms of how in terms of your automatics or your well, yeah or your Autos as we like to call him here, you know. Yeah. All right now in terms of stress training, I mean, what do you what do you do that? And and I mean III know like a lot of people are like, oh, well, you know, you can't, you know, you can't I guess Heist Train automatics, but I mean, I don't know. I mean, what's your what's your approach here? Do you do do you do high-stress training? Do do low-stress training? And if you do what do you do? I mean like how does it how does it work for you? Yeah, like the whole table not avoided the topping situation, but I do want to try it early topping. I mean they say even in a week to three weeks the top it and see and it should push it, but I usually just tie them down ID photo It's a lollipop them as well later in just before I start flowering. I do a little clapping. It's not they're not they're not hugely bushy all the time. But I do that again, tying them down to the sides and slight defoliation. I'm really careful that these radiation to be honest with the autos because I know those solar panels are important, right but the topping I want to I'm definitely interested in doing some of that. I've heard mostly negative things about that. But again, yes, yeah because they can't react Can't that it takes them so long to you know, write respond to its of get over it. I react to it and then Cliff Lau so quick. I mean the Autos are fun, but they do flower Leo quickly and I mean and it's like sometimes as short, you know, looking like a foot high like now don't flower. Yeah stretch him. So I pulled my lights up obviously and a try and stretch them out a little bit as much as I can once they get past that initial three weeks. But um, yeah. No, I'm definitely going to be exploring that the next as well. I've got another ten in my room. I didn't mention I've got a small white about one meter 20. Okay one note are ya what the hell was that in friggin? So so it's I don't know. I guess it's like to to buy 250. I think I'll let me meet her two feet. Let me I'm going to Google right now. Okay, cool me just you know. There is one point five. You said 1.20 1.2. Okay. Yeah for your listeners out there that is three point nine three feet. So that's about four feet. Okay? Okay. Yeah go sir. I've got small a lot of golf phyto LED light in there. I think it's made in Italy The Grow Shop local grocer recommend it to me. That's really 130 Watts. Oh, but that's too I mean it's got good results. So what my plan is now is to do some photos in there. So I've got Acapulco Gold waiting to go and some silver Lemon Haze as well. Okay. It's interesting crossover. So I'll be doing the photos and that 10 and the Autos in the Big Ten. Okay, which is the idea. So yeah and panic if you could could you send me some photos of your gross base if that's cool? Yeah. Yeah for sure. Yeah. Okay, so that's me. Well write that way there the listeners can get a better, you know, they can get a better view point of what it is that you We are talking about exactly so okay. Yeah, cool. I'll do that for you. All right. Thank you, man. And okay, let me well. I mean, okay, you've talked about growing now, you know one, you know, one thing that you really haven't talked about that I would like to hear about what you know, what is your light cycle? Is it is it 24/7? Is it 1816? I mean what what types of you know LED panels are you using it? You know, how do you you know, I mean, how do you make it Heidi make your plank row? Yeah, so I've been ecstatic a good one because I was experimenting with 24 life cycle, which that's what the bees are recommending to me, but I started I did that it was fine. But I have my the four hours of Darkness right in the right when I wake up in the morning before I go to work just to go off about half an hour after I leave and there'd always be like ready to go to sleep. So I kind of like this is my meditation, but Maybe kind of a negative start to the day because I was woke up and saw them all, you know Drew because they went to sleep right? So I thought you know, what I'm going to do is to 24 24 hours and it's just pushing them fast. So again, I know that people talk about giving them a break but this last this last crop and they're now I'm just doing 24 hours and it seems to be working great. Yeah, so I know I'm going to see I'm going to keep going with that. I mean again, I know people swear by 18 6 24, but I don't know. I hope it's working for me now. And it seems to sort of you know, I love this man. Is it my imagination with seems to be accelerating them in? All right. Yeah. Well sure. Maybe it's just good genetics. Don't know those such passions are brilliant, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, right. I mean, I mean my my most recent grow I had a light cycle of 18 and 6. Okay, you know and I'm I I think I yielded. I mean I only you know, I mean with me though, I mean I didn't do any. Straining. Yeah, you know, I mean, I just get I mean shit just got busy man. You know, I mean, I you know, and I know it's not that hard to to stress strain but you know, sometimes family essential, you know, I mean, I don't think it's essential that it all tells us the cool thing about them. You can just let him go as well. Right and that's that's essentially what I do with mine and I think with my yield I think it's like probably like an ounce in a half maybe like an ounce and a quarter which isn't great. Okay. Yeah, whatever. It's the way those no, I mean if it's just for personal use as well as it's fine. That's what I do. I do like the thing about the Autos is you can do like, you know, four or five of them at the same time and then you know, that's just what about there's no that's yeah, but that's what I like about the Autos. You can have, you know, a bunch of them going different strains and then you sort out right? That's that's true. And you know, I mean, yeah, I mean, I mean and I know I mentioned this, you know, Maybe 10 or 15 minutes ago, but I mean in America automatics, you know, they tend to have a bad rap, you know. Yeah, and I mean I've asked a few people that have you know that have come on this show this question. But I mean, why do you think the you know, why do you think in Europe? That's not the case. I mean, you know, what's the I don't know really what's I mean, why is there such a different viewpoint on? On automatics out there as opposed to over here. Yeah, that's a good question. I mean, I mean obviously place that Holland, you know and Netherlands a big grind along. So I think that will old-school Growers are there. I don't know what they I don't know if they're so favorable, but I think it's that new type of grower the one who wants to just grow a couple of plants themselves that you know for their mates or whatever and I just think that maybe it's the to do with the fact that the timing of the industry is getting big now over there and then they You know that then the auto auto is us or focused on maybe on here all the convenience, isn't it? Every day? Everything is convenient nowadays, right? Like one wants convenience through all kinds of stuff right? So maybe I figured maybe that's why it's such a big thing over here. I do think though like I mean, you know, it's like anything is Nick you've done it for a long time. And this is new way of doing something people are going to be like so maybe judging, you know, I always not really proper growing whatever is an auto you have to worry about the light cycle and that you can't control the veg which I can see both sides to it. But I can also see white people do like these fast. You know, I mean they are again I got said the sometimes the seed companies do Market them a bit too much dough ready in seven weeks. It's like no it's not really separately. You know, I mean you get seven weeks you like give another two or three weeks at least. Yeah. I know right? Exactly. Yeah. That's that. Yeah, so it's give me a bit longer and then always give him less newts as well. I mean I'm doing I'm doing like quarter feed all the time, you know, there's obviously there's companies want to sell their nukes only as much as they can. That's true. Now ponic. I mean before we go into the next, you know, I guess area of discussion in terms of growing. I mean and this is my final question terms of growing what you know, what I guess you know, what tips what tricks you know, what advice would you recommend somebody or excuse me? What advice would you recommend the listener that is listening in on this podcast that It is considering growing automatics. I mean what you know, what either one or two or three pieces of advice would you recommend that person? Okay. Well, the first one is get good seeds get good to know you want good genetics. So, you know Derby research get and also figure out what strain you would like what kind of high, you know, what kind of effect would you like from it? Right? So depends out severe personal thing second is I know it's try and get you know you And a lot of money but get the basics so it out get a decent decent light and invite a tell, you know, you can get tense cheap nowadays when a closet and just get that basic set up, right sure because the setup I believe is really so much of its the tools isn't it that you need and the third thing is just don't just don't give up on it and research research as much as you can and don't give up on it. And you know, once you get past the first first grow, it's really a good feeling that you know, I can do this now and I Start experimenting a bit. So I think yeah just to set up the good genetics and the fact that you know, don't give up. I mean if things start going, you know you soon as the nutrient deficiency or something and you start again stressed out just ask reach out and ask people on you know, the internet's great. Like you said earlier. It's a great platform to ask for advice and stuff and there's lots of great forums and podcasts like this that really sort of share knowledge with people and it's a great hobby. I mean I do it because it's obviously a loved one. Smoking weed and giving it to my friends and stuff. I don't but I just love the the hobby side of it. It's just a great hobby. Right? It's funny. Huh? This is fun to like to have Diaries and share with other people and learn from the people. It's really yeah. It's really interesting. It's nature and I mean, it's not it's not a phone or a computer that you can program. It should follow what you do. It's a living, you know living thing that it's amazing really and it should be illegal eyes all over the world, but Anyway, that's a different discussion. Yeah. Well, let me ask you this. Do you grow well, do you grow for medicinal purposes or just simply recreational purposes? Yeah. Well, I've been smoking since I was a you know a teenage syme I just I just love it. I just love those smoking. So just really recreational to be honest. I mean, it helps my stress mmm, you know, and I was like, I just put this part of my life, you know, I've just done it for so long. Just thought to myself. Well, I want to actually understand this plan. Not just you know, I want to understand it and I want to I want to create you know help, you know, create my own staff and then I know where it's coming from and how its treated and all these things. It's just yeah, it's really pretty in itself into you know, interesting in what what it's all about. You know, right? Okay, cool, man, cool. What did now let's let's say what let's go on to this next topic which quite frankly I am very curious. Aureus to hear about and that is some of your International stories about you know, growing cannabis in Asia, you know, so I mean, you know, I mean you've been I mean you've been all over the place right time you've been to ya hands Singapore Laos. Yeah, you know, so so what's the you know, I mean, I've I've never you know, I'm not familiar with you know, that part of the world so I mean Type of Stories the an idea have for us man. Let's let's hear ya. All right. Well I did I've lived in Asia for the last 15 years. So I'm gonna be working out there. And so I'll tell you I tell you a few stories and yeah try and sort of paint a picture. So in Asia, I mean people have heard Asia. It's very different the harsh laws over there. Right? I mean, you know most countries I lived in it's completely illegal. I mean if we get caught with like a gram you're in big trouble anyway, so yeah. Deep shit, man. So I'll start off with a funny one. I was in living in Tokyo and but a couple of buddies of mine living upstairs in a different rooms a different building so they will lived above each other right the two apartments. And so we thought I could it they set up a little grow in each apartment. Okay. And again Tokyo Japan, you don't want to know I mean, you know any kind of marijuana use you deported probably jailed for a bit and then deported so there's no messing around so my two buddies Finds out you got couple of plants and everything was fine. And then after a couple of weeks it was in like a closet, right? So the apartment but there was like a fire alarm trigger nearby in the room and somehow we're all at work and somehow We just my friend got back home from work. So he wasn't at work just got back home from work, and he just do something with his with his closet. He left the building and suddenly like the alert fire alarm went off and it's not like a big fire alarm that you can hear straight away. It's it also seals appellee in at the fire department to come over in the police. Right? So it's going off and he realized that lucky he realizes just near his building went back upstairs. He realized that he just ripped everything out. I mean he had the tinfoil up here that the Light see us getting all the soil and he was like rushing rushing to get all this stuff done because I mean if you get called growing there you are in big trouble and luckily the guy neck down stairs. My other mates didn't didn't touch his he just waited and luckily. I mean literally when they walked in there knock on the door. He was basically had garbage bag with his always starting on the balconies dumping it and it was that close. It was like five minutes away from from being far away, you know, really? So after that, yeah after that, I mean we grew a little bit there and and we smoked it but it's so it's so dodgy and I mean tits or do it there, but that was that was a quote. That was just a quick story that another one I've got is so I was in Singapore. I lived in Singapore for like seven years great great place tropical weather evening, you know easy place and it is very very strict to might've heard it before. I mean, it's like one of the strictest places in the world to have it and so I was it's not so much a going. It's more of a smoking story. So I thought I'd just share. With its Journey one. I'm dumb. Absolutely. So over there in Singapore, you know, like any kind of marijuana use you are jailed no matter if you're a foreigner, if you're local they can even test test you, you know, a drug test if you fail it, you're guilty, right Jesus prepares for a possession. Yeah. It's that bad. Anyway stupidly. I you know, I just had to make their we got a bit off is like looking like $60 of grammar really feel like the low quality stuff. Anyway every month. I buy my stuff here too bad. Alms is a tree and smoke it really privately in my body a little quick pipe in the bathroom and like never talked about it to anybody, right? Yeah. It's never tell anybody about it that you can't it's like ridiculous Ultra Ultra stealth sole mean some people might have it's not really worth doing it. But we did it anyway, so it's really risky man. Jesus Christ is really I mean, I mean honestly if I say anyway, I you know, it's a great environment, you know, it's tropical its people don't know what it is. Basically is smoking York around the city and no one knows it's just a very nice environment to be in any way for four years. I was doing I was getting away with it me and I'm a man May and you know and then after a while like some of my other friends wanted it and so I thought you know, I just help them out. I wasn't making any money. I just thought I'd get it for him. Right so one. So one time I went and got it and it was get the big amount of getting bigger and bigger not you know, it not in terms of grams. It sounds of money because It was like, you know, so expensive it wasn't you know you laugh at the amount if I bought like announcer you'd laugh at that right? But there is like a really big deal and one morning. I went I was in my in my apartment and I decided to go down to Chinatown just to do, you know go out in the daytime. So I was an early morning right and bear in mind that like Singapore has got like cameras everywhere on the streets. I mean they always watching you right anyway, so when I left my apartment I had some of my house and had like pipes and stuff at home. So I left I went out didn't I wouldn't didn't smoke anything else tell you I burn I noticed like people like on their phones at the train station. I looking at me as I maybe I'm just being paranoid, right? Yeah, I can't be and then I kept walking through and I noticed like some civilians like just on their phones like the locals like for kind of following me. I was like, that's weird God. It's probably my imagination. So I was like, I'm the walk down this Alleyway here and if someone follows me, that's weird. So did it? No the whole someone was following me so much shit mmm because I realize that you know, I've been obviously seen get In it off that my mate, right? Right, right. Yeah, and then so I thought okay. I'm going to go into this shopping mall, but I knew really well and so I went up I went up all the flaws on the escalators went up to the top floor in the field in a bathroom at the top floor pretend to go to the bathroom sign the cube of cabinets and just thought to myself. Okay, if someone comes in now then come on then I'm finished raking right first in this cubicle thing, you know, please don't come in after a few minutes. I do the flash. You know, I woke up guys. He washed my hands and I'm looking down at my watch my hands. I look up in the mirror. And there's a fucking guy there one of the guys is there he walks in on my own Jesus my boy. I do so now the alarms are going off. I'm stressing out because I've got it hope you know, I'm not worried. I'm not nothing on me, but I'm scared that and to come home with me. So it's now you've got imagine it's like tropical. So it's like 35 degrees 90% humidity starts to rain and I'm sweaty. It's just dripping with sweat. I'm walking back to the train station taking different routes home again. I approach A apartment building and there's a black car. I'm not making this up. Honestly, it's really true my work. I walked up to my house as a black car. So I'm like, oh my God, I'm sure no this is it right. I got to make sure that you know, like I'm going to do a bit of time I guess and then get kicked out. I went into your pot into the elevator expecting someone to jump on meeting. No went up stairs elevator had reached my floor. I'm like, okay, I shaking it opening the door with Mike. He's joking no one's around. I'll my God. So close the door. First thing I do is like throw everything away. Just be like down the toilet after I smashed the pipes up by had three all away. I just sat there, you know, and I phone a couple of my mates all that locals who really understood what's going on now. Listen, they probably seen you but they're just giving you a warning like not to do it anymore. Right? Mmm, and I believe to this day not that day. I just sat in my apartment for like 24 hours like lay low and it's like never touched it again. I lived there for another four years. I just never went near it and never spoke to the guy is again, you know, I bought off and stuff and this yeah, I believe that like they let me ask me to be honest with you. Like they knew I was buying it, but they knew I wasn't like dealing it and like making money and stuff. But they knew it I was smoking it and they just they just don't like it. You know, I mean, so I was just freaking out. Anyway, that's that's like a that's a true story. It was strong picture there. But like yeah, it was it was intense, you know, really? Well you mean let me when you were in the bathroom. Why why did the alarm go off? You know, like allow me my head went off to the right. Yeah, the guy walked. Shit, and that's just what my heart dropped my tasks like and then it started going did he say anything to you? Like no, I do. Let me look to me. I mean, it's like a movie, you know, he looks in the movies are like the look up in the mirror you guys behind it was like that. Oh, he didn't say anything to you, but you see ya and I was like shit I was on the train and my people walk up people in uniform will come up the train might ticket guys on my arm, they're gonna for me, you know, they walked it's funny how your mind changes when you're like it so scared, you know, somehow I like that. Yeah, you get yeah you get I don't know in a sense you get super focused. You know, yeah you get focused on hopefully not getting caught but maybe at a certain point, you know, it's going to happen. So I don't know you yeah, you know, I mean you think you see those like banged up abroad, you know programs like you would try and I'm not so I'm not I'm obviously never do that. I never smuggle it but people do it actually smugly and they go and get like 20 years in jail. And so that's a different level. I'm not talking about that right? I'm just talking about using it. I've got one more story if you want. So yeah. I was living in a moved from Singapore to Laos. So just north of That it was great country man, like beautiful country very relaxed. So they actually it's like Cambodia they cook with ganja there. So they actually grow a lot of weed in and they use it like their food, but it's not actually legal base open up there. But you know, no one really cares. So going from Singapore to their who's brilliant because so I used to go to this list. There's a Dairy Queen, you know, it's American in Dairy Queen. Oh there they have they have their Queen. Yeah, so they had to have notes. So it's a communist country. They have no McDonald's they've got No, like Burger King though fast, but they've got Dairy Queen for some reason. It's almost been a bit of a deal but it doesn't vary Queen in Vientiane why I lived in the next to the baby. The Dairy Queen was like some old kind of shacks, you know, like really local kind of Market Shacks. Basically that's telling me no like groceries and stuff and there's a little old lady in there. She must have been about early 80s and my mates, you know gave me a tip of the like I'll go and ask if she's some weed on my that's why Okay, I'll do it. So what in then I'm like if you go in and you can show yeah, she's like yeah and I my all right. No, okay, if something that 10 grams whatever and she's like, yeah go to me and it was nice stuff. It was just it was like, you know, it's like Thai stick kind of stuff it as the local lauche and we definitely have and after a couple of times of knowing her and getting it so I'm I thought to myself, you know, I'm just going to buy loads because it was so cheap because just straight off the field, right, right. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, so I went down I said, you know, I must for a kilo and she goes Has oh, yeah $250. Hmm. I said, oh really interesting. So I think half a kilo. It's like 120. Ml. She's like cool gave a 120 line, but I got I got the half kilo and it's brilliant. I mean that that that is this going from Singapore to Laos really so different, you know, kilo half kilo half, you know 120 US dollars, right? And it was and it was good. I mean it was it was a cured perfectly but I mean it was it was great. I mean it was so cheap so that you know the two Streams, I'm not saying that louses also you get in trouble if you get caught but you can you know, pay the police off there and that yeah, right. I don't I'm not conduct. I'm not encouraging people to do this stunt. This isn't telling you what I've been doing in that story. Yeah. Well, I think one kilo is what a little over two pounds right? I think I think you should know that so if you had like a half a kilo so you bought a pound of weed. Yeah hundred twenty bucks. Yeah. Holy shit amazing, right? Yeah, right. Right. So I mean, I don't know. I mean just can't believe it so you can I mean and listen I'm not I'm not advocating this for my listeners, but you can buy weed right you can buy cannabis in Laos bring it to Singapore and probably make a fortune perhaps. Yeah people do it. But the thing is in Singapore anything under 500 over 500 grams is death. Really? Yeah, so I think it was like a you know One of them is like Saudi Arabia kind of, you know straight into the strict strictness in that, you know, so yeah, so people what the people do though, they bring it through Malaysia. So he saw from Thailand. Amasian Laos they do do it, but it's so controlled. I mean it's so it's so dangerous really but it's such a different part of the world. I mean, I was in the Philippines as well Philippians recently change with the new the new guy in charge over there. He's totally eradicated lot of the drug, but you know, we could you could get cancer quite easily over there five years ago. But you know the thing about Asia though, it's such a beautiful place ma'am. I just smoke you've got the tropical weather relaxed atmosphere there the oh, you know, the beach is the jungles. It's so good amount of smoke there and so good friend of mine. Again. The guy I play a lot of video games them online. He's in Canada is a good friend of mine. He lived in Japan with me. Hmm and it's interesting talking to him about about old times and also about like his time in Canada now, you know, like how you can order it to, you know mail order to his house and stuff is pretty cool. Mmm, those heroes are growing. I said we just chat go and he's after in Northern Alberta, which is totally different place again. Yeah. Yeah interesting. Well, yeah. Yeah, I mean pine me one thing. I'm curious about me. Why and I mean you don't have to tell me but I mean why have you live in so many different countries? Like what's the yeah, we're behind there. Yeah. Well, I grew up in in Germany because my parents walked over there and I just never I wish I went at friends all over the world. So I thought you know, I mean a type of job that I can do that with so, you know, I get I get posted in different parts of the world for at least three or four years in each Place usually mmm, and I just love I love traveling my I love meeting new people. I love experience in different parts of the world. I mean it was it sounds funny but it's a bit of a culture shock for me even now coming back to Europe after so long though, you know, it's just such a different place. But um, I really like the lifestyle there and and ya know just interested. I'm really interested in traveling to South America Next. I'm not being there before really well, so I'm thinking Going just just just chill out and figuring out check out Columbia. Maybe yeah, Colombia Colombia. I mean, although I wouldn't go to I wouldn't go to a vet Venezuela Venezuela right now shit going on down there. Yeah, that's fine. But like yeah. No, I'm thinking of Columbia, maybe Peru Brazil and living in Portugal lot of my mates here. There's a strong connections with Brazil sure, so, It's like, you know cheap a cheap route to get there. So yeah now I'm I really enjoy enjoy traveling and meeting people and learning about new places. And yeah, man, it's different the world's a big place, you know? Yes, it is indeed. There's no no doubt about that. It's a massively huge place. But you know, yeah, that's part of the that's part of the fun. I mean and I mean in terms of like, yeah. Well, I mean, I know you've kind of talked about this but like in terms of the cultures in terms of cultures and cannabis, it's mmm, it's quite it It's quite different from country to Country. Yeah, I mean, I you got Japan in Japan makes the mind or into there's a big cannabis culture in Japan is no it's illegal. Like they still have the whole the whole long in the festival. They don't smoke. They're not smoking it or not. Like they do in some countries, but the openly obviously the definitely is a big kind of right, you know, it's based around like dancehall and reggae as well some of it so it's like that kind of Japanese sort of street street. / it's run its called of conversation. They really cool people. I'll Philippines. It was a bit more year sort of hidden. In Laos dozen more and that and Cambodia and Vietnam easy, man. They'll cut cook with it. They've used it for a long time, but it's just it's always been illegal. Right? Right. So, you know, I mean lately it has and then here another Indonesia another place difficult again more difficult with the laws their career that now so recently Korea South Korea and Thailand of oh are going to be legalizing medicinal cannabis, which is interesting. Which is huge I was really surprised to hear that that me that news from those countries and Malaysia or talk about it to the yeah. I know it's just it is thing is it's because you know, it's bitch so much has produced over there. So it's really interesting and we're living in Portugal. I'm so close to Morocco some tempted to go over to Morocco and check out the hash making their you know in the mountains there is so interesting that have you ever heard of a gentleman called French cannoli. You know, you know that is well. He's a he's a he's been on my shows on my show about like lat and I think at the end of last summer he's you know, he's the guy that I pretty much reinvented hash making I did a interview with him. I said, I'm going to lose the match that find that right. It's he's I will say this a he does have a heavy French accent. So you might you know, I mean, I think you yes, I'm us what he's saying. I mean is and even if you can't I just, you know, just To YouTube and type in French French cannoli. Okay, and also he has an Instagram to you can type in French cannoli. You can check them out follow them. He's a he's a very knowledgeable. He's very knowledgeable guy in terms of hash making so yeah man French cannoli, I with a see right, right? Yes. Yeah, I believe it's yeah, I've got it. Yeah, but it now just follow it in a cool place whenever I got a nice very fun of my computer so I can do that now. Yeah that you heard about him on the cheap homegirl podcast. Okay. Sure. I will do mine. Yeah, definitely, you know. Hey like Drop, you know drop some names. Why not? Right? Yeah, and I think your focus is brilliant man. I really enjoyed the panel. I love listening to you guys talking this I like I was excited to see there's like five different episodes of you abandon you right recently. Yeah. That's that's really cool. So it's just nice to his long and like yeah, it really is interested in you know, edgy. I guess it's good for me to listen to it and here Definitely a part of you and stuff. You know, we gotta we gotta we have a we have a very diverse crowd and it's funny because all of my panel members are individuals that have come on my podcast. So I mean these are these are guys and gals that I know pretty well and you know, I'm like, you know, hey, you know, let's do a live show it actually it wasn't even my idea. It was it was my it was my friend Sean his idea and Shug, you know, just as a plug he can be found on. Instagram at skill bo1 and right if you want. Yeah, you know, go ahead, you know, go there and follow them, you know skill bo1 and he's like I'm talking to me like I owe you no change to just do a live show. I'm like what the fuck is a live show like, you know, like what the hell is that and blah blah blah and I'm like, all right. Now, let's just do it. Fuck it. You know, why not? Yeah, and yeah, it's been it's been a pretty pretty good a pretty good success on. I think people like it. I mean is it? Yeah, sorry like it right. I mean is it incredibly professional per se? I'll be honest with you. Not really. I'm not like in a fucking Studio. I'm Justin. Yeah pewter but you know some people seem to like it so, you know, why not? Yeah. No, I think it's pretty neat because it's you know, it's organic isn't it's not all stage. It's just you guys chatting and it's just nice to always feel like my part of the conversation. Sometimes you know, right? He's cool. Yeah, man, I'm glad you do. I'm glad you I mean I enjoy yeah. Yeah, but listen, let's and I know you've talked about your favorite strains, right and yeah currently growing I mean, you know, if you want to talk a little bit more about that. That's fine. I don't have a problem with that. And and also what I would like to excuse me, what I would also like to talk about is your future grows and I guess you're possible YouTube channel that oh, yeah, you might want to I guess build out. So yeah. Yeah cool. Well, yeah, but yeah, so like I said earlier that my last Hazel of different types of haze. I'm really loves that either. You know, it's so like I don't I'm not big on though their body high too much. I do like the head high more butts. I'm looking at some orange some orange might as well just for the and this kid is old school and I used to smoke it when I was a teenager, that'd be cool to smoke again. And then I've got like I said earlier the fast bad stuff. They sent me Mexican Airlines. Cookie cream cookies and I think Amnesia, hey, silver hazier. And again, like I said, I'm some Acapulco Gold which I made in Canada keeps recommend. He says it's one of the best so I'm not tried that before. I think we never know if it was actually that or not so that be cool to do and then yeah, so basically a good friend of mine here who's also a grower. We went to spannabis together that that big conference in Barcelona couple weeks ago. Brilliant guy, man. We always talking about staff are He's really knowledgeable. He's actually a scientist. So okay. He like he's really into the whole devices when we're big fans of the packs vaporizer packs 300. That's a familiar with that one. That's that's my favorite one. So, you know, we met them a couple weeks ago in the spannabis event and others. Okay. Yeah. It's like this painting also Spain and kind of this kind of play on that and I've you know, it was a yeah. Yes. And so yeah, he's where basically we're working together now. Now he we want to make a four hour for my sponsorships and the test crowing we're going to use our the grow Diaries.com website, which is really interesting. Okay to document the grow, but also we're going to make a YouTube channel about just as various stages of growing Autos basically like how to germinate well, you know different techniques I've learned that a month before a while. I was getting pissed off with the germination thing, you know, because it's frustrating when it doesn't pop and it's just like so gone through so many but now I've got I've sort of you know, sort of got A good way of doing it that's reliable now, so I'm getting like eighty percent germination rates, which is good. Okay. Well and yeah, that's really cool. So I use that I use the water. I just put in water for like 48 hours or so, maybe three days as soon as that little towel comes out you put it in the soil under the line it goes in a so that things like that. So basically make little videos and promote and then promote the seeds as well. So really sort of document what we're doing really document the grows and promote the strains. As well and just said you're trying to just pass on what we are learning. I'm not in no way all about you know, I'm just kind of feel like I'm a beginner, you know, I mean, I I've just said I've been around cannabis my whole life and then smoking cannabis for like as long as I can remember but growing it's relatively a new you know new things for me, even though I understand feel like I understand, you know, they're you know, what everything else apart from that, you know, I'm really trying to learn that's why I'm so into it and made that YouTube channel to sort of get the message across. How people would like people like me, you know who want you reading millions of websites. You just want sort of a go-to place, you know sure to get that information and this make it fun as well. You know, so like you might make my mates really is America - he's from Chicago. So it's good hanging out with him and talking to him and yeah stockings fun man talking shop talking cannabis, man. Yeah, man. Yeah, it's like that. Hopefully the couple of months, you know that be up and I'll promote it on Instagram Yeah. Well, yeah, I mean any idea what it will be called because if you do Can you can promote it here on this and this podcast? Yeah. Yeah. I'm not really thought too much about that. But I'd definitely be under the the product farmer kind of idea, you know, so the pipeline will be there but you have to think about that it just that we just started talking about the other day and he's really up for it. So it's always good when you got someone else doing it with you know, hmm, because obviously like it's hot. So we've all got jobs. We've all got things to do with basically, you know, I mean and so that we won't have some fun with some friends helping us really help support each other, right? All right. And even even with me in this podcast, I mean I have I don't I don't make any money, you know doing this I make absolutely nothing. You know, I'm but it would be nice to like, you know, hey, you know, yeah, I'll be your sponsor know you want to get paid x amount of dollars per show. Absolutely. Yes money. You know that one. I think yeah, I think that working. Yeah. Sorry, that's true. But that work and helps you not. I mean, I think I think these kind of things like I mean, I really I'll put my I'm going to be trying out your show for sure on how much Channels now, thank you man. Yeah, and that's cool, man, and I've got some other good ones, I guess until I'm but I'm going to really so I think I think people you know, I find it useful. I just enjoy this into and I think the market still got places for this and you know, if it grows you never know what happened money. I mean, it could go and get bigger as well. Right? Yeah. Hey Moe Cason that definitely I mean why not right. Let me hopefully yeah huge. I mean hopefully on the next Joe Rogan. Yeah exactly exactly. Yeah, right. Yeah. I'm he may I mean, I don't know what he gets paid, but I'm sure he knows I'm a I'm sure he does extremely well. Yeah, I enjoyed these funny. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah last night which is good. Oh the yeah, I didn't listen. I did not listen to add to or that one though. I know it's funny. I usually watch him on YouTube. I don't listen to his podcast. Well, I'm well, I watch his podcast on YouTube. I don't ya I don't listen to him which is kind of weird. But you know, whatever. I mean as long as you're yeah, yeah, as long as you're you know, I guess consuming his stuff it I don't care. I don't I don't think he cares how you either listen or watch them. As long as you're doing it then that's all that matters. Yeah exactly. I bought you one with that with Jake the Snake Roberts wws, you know back in the day and he's on there, you know school going on. It's plain to see that so yeah and Mike Tyson was on there and very cool then Smashing Pumpkins singing. I was cool man. I like that the exact yeah. Yeah. He's got a good The good lineup. Yeah, and you know something um ponic I know let's do this. Let's go back to growing a little because I wanted to ask this question just popped into my head. Yeah. And that question is this what what's either one or a few things you do not like about growing automatics. Okay, I'd say sometimes they flower too soon like so you put it in, you know three weeks. You're looking at sometimes three three and a half weeks. They're starting to flower. And sometimes it can be like, you know, half a soft of grin you think now, I mean you get stretch anyway when it flowers, but I feel like it's nice to be able to control that veg time. So you can kind of you know choose when you want to go into flour then you know, there's going to be a stretch but with Autos you don't have as much control over to say on that side of it. So I feel like it can I think people you know that you lack a bit of control with it somehow because of that. The the training like the the topping again. I'm not knowledgeable about that because I would try out on them though. But again, I know it takes a long time to sort of get over the shock transplanting as well. So let's find my mum was over my mom and dad were over the other day last night. And my mom said do you mind if I have two plants my Outsource? She's gotten that most outdoor Garden, you know the country of this Edition class of flowers. And so I could have one of her plants while the auto supply outside. She's going to I told her not to transplant it though, so she's going to put It and leave it in the silent see that I'm interested to see what happens with it. She's not going to pH the water anything like that. She's just going to like Let It Go and actually yeah because but the thing is I thought to myself. Oh, it's not it's not going to snow. Of course it will because it's not insane. So there's a couple of weeks and see how it's going. So, yeah, it's funny because my parents obviously lived in like the 60s and 70s, right? So, you know all that stuff and there they know I'm growing in that and then they decide that you want me to be careful that it's interesting that Educate them about it too and how it's changing and how the industry you know is getting getting bigger and just give me about that time. It's all legalized man. It's all about money. And in of them all these laws and that, you know, they want to want to control you. They want to control everything. Yeah. Yeah, you know, it's just it's just a plant with its a seed and soil and or I mean, I don't know if you say so I mean it, you know, I mean a lot of my lot of my listeners they they Grow hydroponically, so, you know, I mean, it's you know, I mean, whatever Medium you're in at the end of the day all it is is water either. So yeah, and yeah and Seed exactly and it's natural and it's nature, you know, there's no there's no processing of it. We just cut it off and dry it and smoke it. You know, I mean, it's not like you making cocaine rather than we do. It's another set of stuff into it. So it's like, you know, this is to put your natural and it's medicine. I mean it's now the science is coming. So many examples of it helping people with all kinds of you know pain and anxiety and you know, absolutely yeah, so it's yeah and I think I think there's a lot I think it's definitely going to be Hugh what's getting huge now. I'm interested to see in America if I federally legalize it, right? Yeah, which is it here if they do that and that's a big deal or not. I don't know like right. Well, yeah, I mean, I don't know what's going to happen there. I don't know. I think yeah, who knows, you know? Hmm. It's I guess we'll see only time. Will tell right. I mean, I think eventually we'll probably will happen or you know, maybe they'll maybe they they may not legalize it but the maybe they will D schedule it perhaps because it's okay. Yeah schedule one which is on which means that it's on par with you know that yeah, right like cocaine and what have you yeah far as I know so maybe they'll wait and see right like reschedule the drug perhaps I mean I again I don't I don't really know. Yeah, but Mr. Pathak, you know, I guess I guess ending off this podcast and really this is a question that I like to ask everybody that comes on the show. You know, I mean, are there any questions that I should be asking in are there any final statements that you would like to make? Yeah, just enjoying it like as a hobby. I went through some stages when I was saying up and I was researching and things weren't going like I thought and I kind of felt like defeated sometimes and I was growing in her in the early stages. Like, you know, I'll be like can I do this? Like I'm following, you know you I'm so used to like using technology that like, I'm you know, if I follow this instruction it will work like it should you know, I was like hoping it'll be like by the book after season. I'll you know, I mean it's nature. So like just don't give up on it. If you're new to it, you know, I mean to keep trying it's you know, it's actually not that Bloody hard to grow weed to be honest, but to grow good we I think it's quite a challenge, you know, if you the It's in the water using filtration light cycles everything that I like and trying to get an understanding and dialing dialing in like the system. Are they say right dialing in your grow room dialing in the new styling in the water everything and I think it's just practice like anything, you know, like musical instrument. I've got out, you know, practicing and sticking with it and not being passed by by things that you know learn from your problem. I when I when that that whole crop yield on me, I was devastated now 11 weeks a hard. Work and I was gone, you know, but you know, I thought you know what fuck it I learned from this man. I'm running I'm not gonna make it. I turn I'm gonna remove that red layer was that I don't know if it was the genetics or not. But yeah, so that gets ya don't get put off by it, especially when you're first starting it spend a bit of time setting up then I'd spend a lot of money and just and just like, you know, just get into it and love it and you get rewarded for sure Bill like I did that earlier today. Yeah, right in the right right one. I you know, I have I have Got to ask this question. I'm out of my sight few of my latest podcast and you know and a few people have come at me and they're like, hey, man, you could ask this question. And that question is how much I mean since my podcast is called cheap home grow right Sheep Home grow. Mmm. How much does it cost you to grow? How much does it cost you to run your grow setup? Would you say per month? So bearing in mind that electricity here in Port Charles very expensive, but I'm running the Asylum running like two tenths right? I'm going to tends to other these like to fans to admit to everything. It's cost me around a hundred and hundred 25 US dollars a month to run that. Okay. All right. I don't know how much that compared to over there. But like, you know, let's just leave quite expensive here. But at the same time, you know, it's so worth it. It's not just a yield that I'm not I'm not into the whole yield thing. And I mean I obviously want good yield but I want good quality on this one has fun with it and enjoy it as a hobby. But yeah, you can do it cheap I mean You can get the cheap tense cheaper tents and then you can get you can get a lot of Chinese LED. I'm not you know, there's a lot of Hit and Miss with that. I mean there's a lot of chatter about the cheap LED is it worth it? But yeah, I mean you can set yourself up with that Chief an intake even need an intake fan. And if you got a small setup, you know, just keep a paper something on the 10th hole in the tent open up the whole. Yeah. So around a hundred twenty five hundred fifty years the US dollars a month and paying in in basically a I buy the new state cost me a bit. They running over months, you know, I mean exactly. Yeah, they'll I mean if you I mean depending on how how much you feel demeaned and that's your last year at the very least a couple of rounds at least. I mean, yeah, exactly exactly and like, you know, exactly and then you know, the thing is that what you're harvesting. It's just I mean here the Portugal you're paying like, you know off the street you're paying like maybe six euros a gram. Mmm six years of gram, which is about Yeah, - 650 US dollars a gram of amount of Compares over there but it adds up. You know, it does does that up man? I really does it's you know, I mean, that's nice. I mean growing your own if you get it even somewhat dialed in I mean, it's so much cheaper than yeah than buying either, you know from either off the street or buying. Yeah may you know from a local dispensary. It's you know, if you don't do it yourself, you don't ya a little bit of work. You're good to go. Yeah. I know. No need to always training. You can just leave it as you know, just leave me even don't even defoliating laughter. You just leave them completely. Obviously, it's going to block some of the bad sites, you know with this with the bit leaves in that but you know, if you can still get good yield of that sure sure. I think they've improved over the years to be honest, right? Yeah the Autos right there, the the genetics have improved quite a bit. So that's yeah, that's certainly a very a very good thing for sure. Definitely. Yeah. All right. Well, you know for you listeners out there I encourage you to to follow ponic underscore forum' that's poni see underscore fa rmer ponic underscore farmer. He is quite a a student of cannabis. That's for sure. He is growing his own he is a good guy smart guy, you know, it's been all over the world at the time of Recording he has over 5,000 followers. That's that I got to say man for a independent Growers. That's quite a bit so good for you man. Excellent Yeah, man. So, you know, thanks man. I appreciate I really appreciate you being you know, they talking to you man. I really really a big fan of your show that some in I'm listening tent the all the time with this. I thought I'd be without you know, it's been a really interesting man talking to you and I'm going to continue promoting what you do as well and yeah really cute. Keep it up now because it's really good. And I really enjoy thank you, sir. I do. I really do appreciate that man. I really do. It. Looks like it's very it's very encouraging to hear. I'm getting more and more messages per day and you know, it's it's, you know, it's reassuring in a sense, you know that at least you know, I'm touching, you know, somebody and yeah, that's right. Yeah, it's really really really good man. Yeah. Definitely. I'm really enjoying it very much. You know when you get frustrated with something you motivates you to listen to what you guys, you know, people are saying and really cool. All right, man. We'll listen. I appreciate you coming on the show. And you know, I hope to talk to you again soon. Yeah. Thanks so much. Hello Jeep homegrown Nation. Thanks for listening to my podcast with panic. He can be found on Instagram at ponic underscore farmer. That's poni see Your farmer Farr mer I encourage you to go to cheap home grow.com / episode 69 to see photos of his current grow. I hope you've enjoyed this episode. And please remember to press the Subscribe button and leave a review. I look forward to talking with you next Tuesday. 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On today's show, I have Ponic. Ponic can be found on Instagram @ponic_farmer. He's a European cannabis grower and he reached out to me a few weeks ago and said he thinks he can contribute to the show and after talking with him, I agreed. He comes on the show today to talk about autoflowers and why he enjoys growing them. This podcast episode topics are wide-ranging. We not only talk about growing autoflowers but we'll talk about his grow room setup, lighting, stress training and a few of his interesting cannabis stories when he lived in Asia. This podcast was a lot of fun and I look forward to having ponic on the podcast in the future. Please rate, review and subscribe and enjoy the show! 