Before I continue one of the ways, we keep all of our content for you. The listener free of charge is our amazing sponsors, and today anchor is one of those sponsors. If you haven't heard about anchor it's the easiest way to make a podcast. Let me explain it's free. There's creation tools that allow you to record and edit your podcast right from your phone or computer anchors going to distributor podcast for you. So it can be heard on Spotify Apple podcasts and everywhere podcasts are listened to and you can even make money from your podcast with no minimum listenership. It's everything you need to make a podcast in one place download the free anchor app or go to Anchor Dot f m-- to get started. What's up everybody? It's band Erickson for AfterBuzz TV for power season 6 episode 4 title. Why is Tommy still alive and black grimaces in the building? Let's go. He was happening today. What's going on now? Let the fun begin. I'm Bambi Roxanne and I would like to introduce the panel. I would like to introduce to my left we have given Rose is your football team to and oh, that's my question to everyone right now. All right, Dad to next to Jill. We have Jimmy V. It's a man Jimmy V. What's happening and joining us live from New York. He plays the role of black Grimm. Please welcome to AfterBuzz for the first time a Freemason in the building now yo and Peep he's where he he's got a power 6 mug official our chorizo merchandise can't get that anywhere. Wow. Little bit little bit. No, it's not. Oh, yeah Courtney sensor. - Nike ID right? Yeah, I saw them while they're hot. Yeah readspeaker's sprinkle with like some blood on it. Yeah, so can you be so so before we're done. Can you ask your wife or your low jr. If he can go grab your sneakers because I want to see I want to see this. Yeah, I want to I want to see him. Okay, but okay, but first question that we want to ask. What's your what's your take on this whole theme song issue great question. I'm going to have Unpopular opinion here. I actually did like the new theme song with Trey Songz. I kind of agree with 50 men, you know, sometimes you know, it's not it's not wrong with freshen things up at this song has been around for quite a few years and you know, you want to get a fresh new take on it and it was a it was a fresh new take unfortunately. A lot of people didn't really like the fresh nice of it. Okay? Okay. Okay. So now let's get into tonight's get let's get into last night's episode. So the first question that It's all my notes is please help me understand how tupid and every episode attempts to pull out a gun and shoot black Grimace. But in other times they talked as if everything's okay. I don't understand like why haven't you beat this to this? How come you haven't beat him down? Like what's going on? I I think that okay. So black Grimace is not a fighter. I don't know if you know this from watching previous Seasons, he's more into the money aspect of things. I personally feel he's not in his first choice would Be to fight also, Tommy is the boss. You understand I'm saying so when he says something people talk about other people being worried about black women as follows, you know, the rules to the T. That is true. Yeah, it don't go down like that. That's he's not gonna fight or argue with him. And that's that's just how he is. I think yeah, I definitely agree with that and there has been times when I have criticized black Grimace for for in a little soft. Yeah a little soft but a little cushiony. Yes, but one thing that we can't say is that he's very loyal he's very loyal to Tommy. He's really the last man standing. I felt like you and Victor kind of were the ones you guys you guys were kind of like the Duo's in the beginning where it was like YouTube where the loyal Victor's not there anymore. So now we shoot Last Man Standing and it just bothers me how how these other two little Negroes come into the Cherno respond, and there's just no respect and it's like why? I hope you kill them. I'm sorry. Are you you like to kill a lot of people watch the show that it's just that everybody I do like to kill them but I feel like two-bit Francis is so conniving and it's so manipulative. If you don't kill him, he's going to kill black Grimace. Yeah, I do believe tube. It has visions of grandeur. He he kind of reminds me this season of how great was couple seasons ago when he was working under ghost and he was like look Man II can help you do this. I can help you do this. I I could do it for you. I'm your guy. He's like way too hungry. You know what? I mean? So Hunger makes people do a lot of crazy things and I think he's maybe he just wants he wants black remiss maybe his spot maybe. Okay, right right Adrian. What's the back story on this lung problem that kidney kidney or the some type of Orden. So okay, so I don't know if you guys can tell or maybe you can't a lot of the stuff we do on set. It is improved. Alright, so we had that question for you. So I want to see the first big shout out to Matt Turner. He wrote this week's episode and also to Karen Hawks who was the director. They did a very good job and Matt wrote a very good episode occasionally. Sometimes we Kourtney will allow us to add things to the episode. So we were in the back going over the sides for the scene and we were just messing around with the lines. It was me my Ferguson Place to bit and Omar Scroggins Spanky and we were just messing around the lines getting loose getting into character and I we were joking around and I see you know, he said his line where he's like, what were they out of Big Macs for whatever slim grim and I just said, you know y'all messed up man, you know, I got one kidney. I just it was just something I just randomly said within the character who I promise they laughed and then they're like, you know, you should say that you should say that and I said you sure I don't want to get in trouble here. You know, I'm not like all the Top of the totem pole. I don't you know, they were not do it. So we did it in front of 50. He liked it. They brought the crew and the rest of the lighting and everybody else in to see the scene. They all laughed like we were doing the scene. They laughed like I've never seen that happen. So they let us keep it and it stayed in the episode. So then I you know, I you know, I dig so in a couple episodes when you guys had saw Lala's character Lakeisha she walked in and there was a comment made about her. As was that in the script or was that improv? No, that was that was scripted. I mean a lot of those beautiful but I but you don't I don't think you really have to like this. Not really you don't really have to write that in a script you could you could look at her and say yeah, that's yeah, you know, but it was that that was scripted. Okay, the live chat really quick. Wanted to know if you went took acting at John Dewey High School Brooklyn represent. Now somebody who knows me I did. And they say what up to down. So can we get a little bit of backstory on VG's character, you know bam obviously thinks he's a little soft for the drug game. He seems to be a gentle giant with you know, what's with him as he always been down with the streets. Do we know does he have desires to be a big guy on campus? Well, not campus big guy on the street. Yeah. I don't know if the show Ever really gone digging into black romances story. What we do know is that black rim is likes money and he likes dressed nice. He is my opinion. I know the rise might have some different Blackness is he looks serious and he looks tough, but I just think he he's not he's doesn't take the job as seriously as he should, you know, he's afraid of Tommy but I think he's just enjoying the ride like, oh great. I get I get all this money I get to To wear these nice clothes and I get to you know, I get I get to carry a gun. This is cool. I don't think he likes the lifestyle. Yeah, I don't think he's really a killer, you know, like any killer. Don't push me. You knows if Tommy said to kill somebody probably would do it because he's a goon I might well I do but I don't I don't think personally that black women says he's he wasn't built for the business. He just happened to hey, you know what they're hiring. Okay, I'll take the child. So what is it that you And tell me without being fired or potentially being in the sequel about what's going on with Tommy and his crew his organization. What can you tell us? I think there are some Growing Pains going on in Tommy's organization right now for what you can see last season, you know, we lost a couple of key characters and everybody just kind of came together. So my opinion there's Growing Pains going on right now a lot of A lot of character not meshing. You know what I'm saying? A lot of personality conflicts and that's what you're seeing is happening. A lot of people have different ways of doing things and you know, I think that's you know, maybe that's going to play out as the season goes on maybe okay. Okay, was that good? And she guys like that that that was note that was good. Do we have do we have any questions from the fans and the chat room before we move on? No, they just keep saying a big upgrade kind and asking about you and to the representing and they just want to know more about what's going on with you and to bit. Hmm. Yes. It's it's a weird man. Like this is just just beef man. It is he's got a short temper and black Grimace is going to light that fuse every time it seems like he can't do anything right or he used to stay on his good side of me. I saw the last episode You Gonna they talking about the heist and he's you know, you made one comment and you know Grim actually stood up for himself, which I'm like, yeah, I'm not gonna take that from you. You don't know me like yo, chill when you think and he's like you saw the look he gave them he was like, oh, I'm gonna do this in films. Like, where are you you bout that life and Dancing break it up. So we'll see what happens. So I want to ask a couple questions now about you Avery Mason the actor. So your first TV credit was for The Good Wife. That's right. Yeah. It was what I had here line. Yeah. So Kourtney Kim Kourtney Camp was some type of show runner or she has to she was involved in that show and some way. So did you? King with Courtney on The Good Wife did that lead to your role for black Grimace on power? That's a great question. And no I didn't when I did The Good Wife. That was just a day Player thing. I didn't actually get to meet her. I didn't meet Courtney until season two little bit of back story how I got the partners. So I was doing a background on the show and I got a featured role. Let's see. Well, I already said season 2, but bam, do you do you remember? Can you remember what episode it was? I feel like I felt like I remember you when the pilot episode with you and Victor when you guys no, that's not it. I'm okay anybody else to go said come to the laundromat to get money from Julio? Okay, give the Lobos and the guy that open the door was me. Well, that's it was me but it wasn't black Grouse the time. All right. Yes. Absolutely. Yeah, so she's okay. Like season two, I think I'm not sure the episode but I definitely remember that was like my first appearance got it. So but then so were you doing background the the what you doing background and season one and then you got that part for season 2 or season 2 was it no season two is my first part on the show and they like me so they brought me back for a couple more. If you go back to season to watch a couple things you'll see me and I met Courtney and one of those episodes it was just very random. I I really did not know the folks on the show. I was just happy to be there. I was talking to people and I bumped into this lady very nice tells me have a very nice. Look you're very professional like you what you're doing. That's it. Thank you very much. And then like five minutes later someone like you. What did you say to you? What did you do? I thought I was in trouble and I think she just said I was doing a good job and she's like well look they were like, okay cool. You know who that is, and I'm like no. She's like that's the showrunner. Whoo, Kourtney Kim. Oh and it was scary. Like I thought I did something wrong, but then it I thought I did great. They asked me to come in and audition for a part. They thought might they thought might be really good for me and auditioned in the the rest is history. Wow, man, that is a dope story and congrats to you for for for sticking in there because you know with you being a day player getting close to our getting a co-star credit on The Good Wife prior to that but then still being humble enough to when you're in New York to do the background work. Where the background pay and the co-star pay are completely two different, you know pay scales, but the fact that you allowed yourself to be humbled you were blessed with with the bigger opportunity. So while congratulations on that yeah things were slow after the good ones. I really didn't get the kind of work. I thought I would so I'm just like, you know what I want to stay in the scene. I want to stay in the vibe. You know what I'm saying? I want to stay on set and keep learning and keep growing and I was I was fine with it. I'm like, I nobody else pay my bills, but me so you know, okay, so But I got to do so a couple questions then imma let you let you go. So you went to University of Albany to become a journalist. What type of General is that? You want to come before you dropped out to begin the acting? Oh, no, sir. I didn't drop by drop finish my journalism degree. Oh, yeah. Well, I got actually I didn't finish my journalism degree. I thought you would have to be get a journalism degree to go into radio because what I wanted to do was radio and I was like, well, I gotta go get this journalism degree so I can do radio. I didn't know that. So I stopped doing a journalism and I found the college station. I kept doing radio at the college station. I changed my major to African studies in English. And that's what I graduated with a ba in African studies in English. He got it two more questions is your son old enough to watch you on power. Yeah, he is but I don't want to let him see the show with me yet. Okay, he doesn't recognize Daddy on screen because I do some other things. I let him see it. But I don't know if I want to let him watch the show you it's a little too violent, you know, and he went for like Daddy what's happening like Daddy what's happening? What's going on? Daddy was like no no change the channel. You can watch it just yet. You're not ready. Okay Runners potty training got it. Final question is you're also a stand-up comedian. Yes. Doing it since 2013 side note before I know what you going quick question quick a quick update here September 25th. I'm going to be at Caroline's on Broadway at 7:30 p.m. For everybody watching right now in New York. You want to come see me come check me out Caroline's on Broadway separate tub, September 25th and September 27th at the creek in the cave in Queens as well as a far as a set goes man. How many minutes do you have? A half hour said what you got? Why are you want to you want to come out and watch me? Can I get your money's worth East Coast? I just might pull up on you. I mean he is from Boston. Charlie I got a Dave Chappelle our but I got a you know, I got a Rodney Dangerfield half. You know what I'm saying? I got work at 20, you know, yeah. Yeah. Wow. Okay, so so before we let you go. All right final question. Does black Grimace kill to be or Spanky? We took that big Swig? All right. Well my fingers my fingers crossed his police kill his ass. Whoa, which one either just I just take them all out. Like I just I'm not feeling this whole I'm not feeling too big and Spanky, you know, this whole double team thing black Grimace has been the most loyal and I just it bothers me how this dude always wants to pull a gun on somebody. Like he he's weak. He's wag and I hope that black Grimace shoot his ass tube. It has been very flashy. Yeah with the whole get the strap. Yeah, we do. Nothing to see some structural Street strong. He's just not brain strong. He's just violence is the first option because that's how he grew up. You know, he's friends with Draya man. They've them dudes that's violence for them first option. But black Christmas is about that money. I think I missed that money. That's one thing you can guarantee is the best work if I if this was McDonald's, Black rooms would be the shift manager. That's wonderful. So let everyone know where you could be found on social media. Yes, sir. So if you guys would like to follow me Brooklyn is already follow me you might as well join on it. I'm at Big Calf comedy on Instagram Twitter and on Facebook. I'll send out a YouTube channel, which I kind of got to updates not much stuff on there, but follow me there too. Why not and check me out at Caroline's on September 25th at 7:30, bro. You should come too we gonna talk about that champion jersey. What team is that? If you'd even and it's just the trip brought just a drip that's what it is there. Okay. So let's say we want to thank Avery for stopping by chatting wouldest. Thank you so much. We had heard that you watch our show and so we're just grateful that, you know, thank you so much for for taking the time to chat with us and much much success to you and congrats on everything and for just having the will and the drive to do what you do and look as what happened. You know, look at look at what has happened, you know due to just being humble. Dude, I appreciate you guys. All y'all show has grown so much. I do remember watching in season 3. I was hoping I would say my name at some point, but it never did happen. I was just Tommy being one of his goons and interaction. So you guys keep doing your thing much respect much props and next time y'all on my side on East Coast. Come on. Check me out. Make sure I have a good time. Wonderful. Thank you. Thank you so much. All right. Thank you so much. All right. Okay, so that was yes. That was that was so cool. And you know we saw each other at the premiere in New York and you know, he's like, you know, can we get you on and he's like man I watch all the time. So just you know, that's that's always that's always great. Okay, so moving along with episode for y so I'm still alive. So now Ghost sees dead people. So Angela, everything went wrong ghost is trying to be the man. She wants him to be Angela says it wasn't Tommy was him and that he's always choose Tommy over her ask if if she was a female witness, what would happen to her says, he's not guilty enough to what happened to her and questions then why is Tommy still alive? So now I predicted that ghost would actually have hallucinations of Ali Angela. So now that I've seen it I don't like it. What do you think? I don't Like it as well hate it hate it. I don't need the inner dialogue. I saw on the confidential after-show Courtney mentioned. This is the way that we get to see ghosts. Grieve. Why couldn't you just grieve but you okay. So listen, I mean, I understand the point of it because we're seeing his guilt come out and then it does, you know kind we never see ghosts sort of take responsibility for his actions. So we see he feels bad. He knows he puts in G in this position and this is really all his fault. But how many times you have to see Angie in that red dress? Yes, so, like I said I saw this coming but I'm saved and Sanctified. I mean I don't I don't personally I don't believe in that whole talking to the day of type thing. You say they don't believe in that type of stuff. So I don't know. I mean, I hear people say things like, you know, they they, you know, they've seen their dead aunt or grandmother. I never seen no shit like that. So it's hard for me to really grasp. Somebody talking to someone who's dead. I just that's just me one thing specifically is and Angeles dialogue. It's got me tripping out because I feel like she's talking in circles. One thing that she was like, oh you always choose Tommy over me and then obviously ghost made the attempt and then she's like I never told you to go and kill Tommy and then later on in the episode. She goes you're gonna end up killing blah blah blah. So it's just as a viewer. I'm confused. But okay, so I do now Lenny now, let me explain why I think that happens because became remember she's dead. So she's playing with his emotions about things so it's not real. So basically what goes says these are all the things that Angela saying are probably things that are running through his mind because like it's as subconscious. Yeah. I mean, that's why I think Drac. I don't know how to say that last name, too. Birth Drac, we're just going to say drag wants to know why doesn't he Sirena? Why no visions of Raina because great questions. I know why Katie Pablo is ready. Nobody gives a fuck about Reina. Yeah. She was not important. Listen this like like we've said before there's four stars in this in this in this series. There's ghosts Tommy Angela and Tasha that those are the four and you know, the whole their whole lives wrecked once Angela came in. Ooh the picture and he fell in love with his old girlfriend. Sorry Rayna. That was one of the reasons why I predicted that she had to die. She wasn't important and she would just she wasn't important. So that's the answer your question. She's not my question. So anything else before we move on before Jill you start talking about Kate. I don't have anything just I hope that we don't see this continued for the next several episodes. We got it in this one and it's like I'm all about keeping Lila employed. So the Big gave her you know apart but it's just not fair. She has another job. She has an alternate carbon when that comes out. Anyway, let's talk about Kate and Lakeisha and they're bonding moment girls are bonding. It was a bonding. I felt like it was good for Lakeisha. She you know could ask some questions. Everybody wants to be nosy to find out what the other chick was about even though she kind of met Holly and I thought it was good you Kate almost seemed And dare, I say not normal because that would be a stretch but she seemed you know regular like she was wasn't being a super evil or supered, you know, prickly with her. I felt like she was just having a real conversation. I thought it was very foreshadowing e, you know, especially with oh the especially with the lime things don't work out. Well, I think that I don't think she has a problem with the Keisha. She probably, you know 8 / good cooking and so forth. I don't think she has a problem with the Keisha. The problem is she is just not right for her child. She recognizes she knows I mean she knew immediately and the whole thing. Sorry little actor that play Chase. Is that oh, yeah. Yeah, that was a struggle moment. But you know who Lakeisha going out to go beat up the boys on the Block Kate had a point. We don't know how this is going to impact Tommy and come back to you as you do need to go out and defend your child, but I don't know if cash cash cash. Okay cash. I don't know if going out in the block and beating up the kid yourself, you know, the actual is the right thing, but that's that's I don't say that's a good thing but a lot of parents may not feel that way when yeah I get that. But my point is you're a g when it's some little kids but you cowering at the door when the police came and Kate had a point. She's and of course she's going to put her son first as any mother would and as she should but this life doesn't All for that and it's not going to work because we already know that she's a punk. Kate can smell it and Tommy you just you know need somebody to be there. It's really sad and she had a point everybody. Tommy loves ends up dead except for ghosts. Yeah. What did you guys think about Kate slipped and said when when Tommy was like, well, they can't be because she's black and then Kate slipped up and said, you know that she raised a black son, so I didn't really read anything. Thing I did behind you think that is Mom. I did because some years ago. I had this theory that I have this theory that that I had heard. Well I had my theory was similar, but the theory that I got was a little more more defined it was from this podcast of these two guys from New York. And I and I and I gave the specific breakdown of it. I don't remember all what I said is I just remember that that Tommy's dad and so the pass of Tommy is Dad was a club owner. I believe that Kate was a dancer possibly a stripper or working at the club where goes dad who's was and they had an affair together. They had an affair together and I don't remember what else I said, but I feel like that is what Pat that's what has brought Tommy and goes together. But with Kate saying that she raised a black son now makes me go back to the theories because every time that I've mentioned it now that the every time that I've mentioned it to like Courtney and to Shannon, To some other people they either look at me in a weird way. They ignore me like they there's something about onto something when I when I mention that that whole theory that I had that there could be some truth to it. So the fact that she said that she raised a black son it obviously has to be ghost so we know we know everybody's past we know we know Tommy's past but we don't know ghost his past except that his father was a club. We don't know about the mom and so forth. So That means something because Kate whenever cake, um, she's always messy and she's always dropping some type of tea or something. So I just think that it means something and I have to remember I have to remember what I said specifically about it. Well, I don't know. We'll see. I mean, it could have been just an example of you know, you two are like brothers. He was in my home thing or you know, maybe you're onto something. Okay. We will see all right now. Now we have to discuss Lindsey Cooper Saxe and Proctor which might have been the best storyline of the whole episode but going right. Um, so obviously, you know, because Proctor's a good dad and he sends the baby out of the room when stuff is popping off nothing turned up on the recording in the little unicorn but Lindsay being almost abusive to her daughter calling her a little B and all of that. What did you guys think about that like, Whoa, it's still a mess even sober. She still a mess. She said she's still a mess and remember although we've this is six seasons. But as Courtney says that all of this has taken place within like a couple of months. So for her to get there's movie references of I can't think of but it takes a long time to get it takes a long time to get clean before you you know, you don't relapse so I mean you can tell that Ozzy had an ulterior motive. So it only makes sense that she's not really trying to be a parent. She's just trying to get back. She's completely trying to get back so Proctor set her up. I thought it was genius because when we participate yeah you missed it. I far as the exam. He said he slipped the letter in the mailbox. We I don't think Lindsay failed the bar. Yeah, Proctor fake that letter in the mailbox and there's no fee. On say or a fiancé he was doing that and then they're over the edge. So she was like using drugs. I don't think that he thought she was gonna OD that night, but he just wanted to get her messed up so that there was no way a judge could give custody to the kid. And then I as Proctor would steal walking out of the crib. He like turned back in like that was that signal like I was the one in charge of this whole thing and then boom. Yeah. So yeah, how did I miss am is out? We'll never see it. Yeah, when they were waiting outside he and you know, they're waiting for it to come up. He slipped it in the mail. That's why it was like what's wrong everything? Okay, and it's all Attitude Change. She I mean again, I don't think I can't be mad at him. Well, I can't let anybody overdose but I can't be mad at him. I know he had to think that through because he probably just wanted her sick, but that's still in your mother's child. And you're doing it when your child is in the house. They were just my questions about that. Like are you just gonna grab the Otto reliever and she's not going to see your mom slumped over on the couch. And then my question becomes because we saw the bag on the couch because the camera panned to the bag. So is he gonna be the one to blame now for her death will see there's a couple of things with that. I feel like here's the thing. She dies. Yes X is going to be trying to get that little device back. But one how's it going to find it - yeah. How's he going to get in there now place. It just it's on the Dodgers thing it just Kind of it could come back later, but it falls to the Wayside almost because there wasn't anything on there to begin with. Well the thinking and have a dialogue that Proctor says I'm not going to allow you to take my daughter nothing. Like that's something that could come on. Who's yeah, I don't feel like that's enough. I don't feel like it's enough because at some point he does have to call 9-1-1 because she's ever dated. So when he calls, he's a lawyer he could, you know come up with something so I don't really I feel like that it's dead in the water. Yeah, I do. Why would they pan? Were to the bag though. That's what I'm thinking because they're gonna think about it. And of course they're going to want to you know, maybe sax is looking for it. And he you know makes threats of what he make because we've seen Cooper's been way off and what he's kind of pulling together these past couple of episodes. He's focusing in one area and things are really going on to the left and because he's not looking at the picture with a clear head he misses things before we continue one of the ways we keep all these shows for you free is by our amazing sponsors. And today Spotify is one of our sponsors on Spotify. You can listen to all of your favorite artists and podcasts in one place for free. You don't even need a premium account Spotify is a huge catalogue of podcasts on every topic including the one you're listening to right now on Spotify. You can follow your favorite podcast. So you don't miss an episode premium users can even download episodes to listen to offline wherever they are and you can easily share what you're listening to with all your friends and following on Instagram if you haven't done so already be sure to download the Fi app and search for AfterBuzz TV on Spotify or browse podcasts in the your library tab. Also, make sure you follow us. You never miss an episode of AfterBuzz TV. So I mean it's going to come up because they looked at it for a reason but how relevant it will be so I can I use it. So that makes sense. I thought I thought the way the letter was worded. It says notice of notice of notice of failure of the bar. I just I felt like that's kind of odd to to normally. I feel like the wording of his would be would be different. But damn I didn't. Wow. Well, that's why I specially to when Procter came back in the second scene that she was rambling off things off the test. Yeah as if she was like studying again, which he knew you know, so then that means so that means Proctor probably went and grabbed the letter and damn. Okay. That was good. Yeah. All right. Moving on so Proctor Dre and goes so so ghost is ready to go. See is ready to kill Dre. You have the new eastern district has a new attorney and he's putting this new RICO case. There's no RICO case. There's new RICO case against against Tommy Tasha ghost and Proctor who reveals that there's still a female witness the swords girl. So then Proctor tells ghost that we can use Dre to control the narrative since he Has to report back about ghosts whereabouts ghost degrees and Dre is to wear a wire and tell them that ghost is innocent. So are we shocked that Dre didn't exactly follow the orders. Not sure of course, so and then so what is your thoughts on ghost not killing Suarez and then giving her money with gloves on but he didn't use gloves when he was and clipped roof. Beat me right to the point. I was so mad when you put Masters on we got finesse guy. Okay, even that when they when he was coming into the apartment. I felt like it was one of those old, you know scary movies where you see the killer walking up and he is moving off slow and he moves the gloves out of his pocket like that's dumb. Yeah, because here's the thing. Yeah. I mean, yeah, I get it. Maybe you're covering for your fingerprints. But she saw you she knows it's you it's so her ID has to count for something. It just goes with a heart I guess and coming to give her money and do with it what you will And this is and this is where the whole but I felt like it might have been a setup for Dre too, but that's a big risk to take. Yeah, but this is now this is where you're going to see ghosts do stupid things, you know killing Tommy in in broad daylight like he's not thinking he's not thinking rationally because he really is messed up in the head that Angela's dead and that his best friend his brother who he lived with an apartment somewhere in the Bronx with with him and His in his Tommy's mom what I think so, I just I feel like that's where they're going with this and you see you see ghosts is now very he's really messing up a lot. So that's that's what I take from that I was not a fan of the first scene when it was Ghost Procter & Dre because ghost is so I don't want to deal with him as soon as they bring up the daughter he switches. Okay. So now I want you to wear a wire blah blah blah. Well, it was it was it was the daughter obviously Raina and then also, Because Proctor just made a lot of sense Proctor says, you know, I'm on the line and plus we can really we can really make this we can really make this work. So goes saw the feds and the rearview mirror and so he knows that Dre so like he does for for two things that he does stupid. He's smart when it comes to certain things. He's smart when it comes to to Tate and he's smart when it comes to Dre, but when it comes to like Tommy and some of the other things he doesn't think Irrational I'm going to say I'm not sure if he is smart when it comes to drug because there is also the scene where is ghost in Jason and the talking inside of Club truth and Drake's upstairs listening to everything and that they're actually saying and the topic of conversation is being being Jason's distro and I think I think Dre picked up on that like, oh, okay, but they're very true. But also in that scene, which will we Were we just go to a now with that that particular scene ghost made it very clear. He said it's adjacent. He said it too. He said it to to Jason's crew. He's like f mom the game come out the game killed. What you going to do kill me? Like at this point. He doesn't care if he lives or die because answer is gone. So I for me that scene was more powerful because he was basically just saying I don't care who's around F you I'm not doing this point blank. Okay, so Tasha and Ramona Garrett should she have gone? To Ramona to spill their marriage business between Shane goes about go signing her name on the fund for Rayna what she was going to take but Ramona happened to be there. Yeah, and she's controlling it. You know, I'm unsure where Ramona stands is this about Tate or is this about I'm kind of checking for ghost the advice you gave Tasha wasn't wrong per se but it's a little flippant to just say well get your own money. Any and get over it I did different situation. She literally lost her child. Yeah, I mean, so I just kind of feel like for Ramona to just be in the mix and to be so dismissive of her and and then strange Tasha made a great point. You don't have a child so you can't understand the shoes that I'm actually in. Okay fair enough now Tasha Quinton koalas this open discussion. So course is the feds or Something. Yeah, he never sound I do fall in love so fast like he's ready to go to war for Tasha over a kissing scene. And that's why he's the best like what okay, before we even talk about that. No kids one day full of kids the next day. I understand there were some kids in the apartment but really literally like are popping today and who's taking their kid to a daycare where the owner has a bottle of champagne just waiting in her desk to pull out in the back and crack open? So with a stranger good point Joe good boy. So I'll just drag Tasha just 5 seconds. So, you know Q he suspect he's very suspect as hell because the daycare was not open and then the windows were covered and he just walks in right and walking and so he just walks in then he comes in again the next day and then this time she has office, you know, so that that was already an issue and then so then once so once okay, so this is my problem. Tasha and I've said this before Tasha Tommy and goes all have weaknesses Tasha's weakness as to why she's not the you know, she's not the boss of the boss boss is because she did gets in her way. Oh no. Come on be our how are you let's but no. No, I'm a Hello Ghost Alters the whole plan screws everything up behind vagina. So therefore they are but okay Tasha's to this point hasn't heard situations haven't physically resulted in a mess up all the problems that have come from her situations are because ghosts can't make up his mind. I don't want you but nobody else can have you and he gets in the mix. Okay doesn't skewer thought process or thinking too. It doesn't at the reason that it does skewered process is because first of all you allow a man that you don't know to come into your place of business and it's a day care, right? So that's that's number one. And then number two on the second day when he comes back after you do the exchange of the numbers. Then you have a bottle of wine. You don't I just had to be blowing your nose nigga, right? Like you don't know him and and yes Tasha is a boss and so forth, but the reality is he's a guy as fuck. I'm creepy that he comes into her place of business. That is not open. We haven't seen his daughter. We haven't we haven't we have not seen the daughter and the reality is the reality is this if Tasha doesn't shoot him up, you know point-blank. You don't know what this dude can do that shit is not safe. It's just dangerous and he's creepy and it's just not cool to be having some groaned as to have some you know, what just coming into your place of business. It's just it's stupid each. I agree. I mean like a good boy. Again, bring this back to the writers are trying to speed things along and get us to a place quickly. Obviously, he's going to play more into the situation because he's too pressed and you know looking and Ghostface I ain't scared. Are you not scared? You don't even know where it is and you know, dude and job and then it was and then on top of this so you ready. So this dude is ready to to wife up Tasha. You ain't met the kids. Haven't gone on a date having gone on a real date and I didn't appreciate them making toys. Shh sound thirsty a real date. Your man is a multi-millionaire. He owned a click you are acting like you haven't been taken out on a date before come on man. Stop it anyway, so and that's another thing about this Q guy. It's like you are ready. But but there are some suck-ass due to do shit like that where they ready to they ready to wife up some new girl that they like without even knowing the situation. So that is that's very that's very real thirsty guys. Sexual maybe he needs a place to stay. He just got a daughter, you know, it's to take care. I was I wouldn't because after sighs what the hell was that got it. Okay, so I'm done dragging. So any thoughts about the argument while they were at the what with those that argument there and in they also had a staredown that's going to definitely escalate into Q getting body. So he has not gonna survive and ghost was wrong if you're talking about ghost and Tasha has argument before How about this stuff? Yeah, we skipped over the huge part of the rain has money. Okay, but let's so this is the thing, right? So yes ghost was wrong for forging Tasha signature, but for Tasha's argument her comeback is Reina would have wanted this bitch please bitch, please. Yeah, so it's like so listen like Tasha was Tasha was winning the argument until she came up with that bullshit as a logic the reality is they both like to Lie to each other and try to you know get one Outreach other ghosts had won that particular situation and when Tasha came back with the whole range of would have wanted it you lost that argument you had them until then I agree and then goes also to he he said I made all the money so I can tell you exactly what it was. Point I'm dissolving the trust I need that I would have been more pissed that Ramona tried to tell me what my husband did with the money and why it was important. That was a problem. I believe it was for the charity. Do you is that your business though? Yeah doesn't matter. But all right. So Jason ghost and Tommy we already kind of talked a little bit about how because he's seeing their bodies ghost tries to just shoot Tommy in broad daylight in broad daylight. Oh and he crashed the car and he did not get affected not one bit. No, let's talk about the fact that for the first five seasons of power ghost was a dead shot. Yes. I never miss never missed a shot all of a sudden now, you're right at the ambulance window and it's painting me me being and you hit nothing not even a grave good point you um, is that his guilt to know it's not his it's not his guilt. But I also think that I also think that with with Tommy and ghosts they want to kill each other, but they don't want to kill Each other it doesn't make sense. Yeah, so it's like there's they're shooting each other. It's like it's like when two brothers fight how they really fight but they don't really try to like rather than rather than sock him in the eye you may do like you may do their job or you may do the the chest but when you hit the chest you kind of Hit the shoulder because you don't really want to try and take them out. I feel like that's what ghosts he's saying. He's having a this hurts me more than it will hurt. You moment soda kind of its kind of stupid. But I think like they're purposely so, okay. So now Tommy Tariq and Vinson, yes Jimmy. So Tariq discovers Tommy shipping location from his Uber wear that with the address exactly was and he breaks in and steals the product real quick. One thing. I was confused Vincent, Texas to read saying It meant in or he says something about pick up so correct me if I'm wrong. So Tarik was supplying Vincent, right? Because that's what the tech room as a viewer. This is what happened Canaan went to Vincent had some stuff to sell paintings now gone Tariq went back to Vincent after that as Canaan as is cancerous. Yeah. Yeah, okay to work the deal. So so visit finds out Tariq is the son of ghosts, which was I thought was brilliant at this point and then I really enjoyed when Vincent put hands on Tarik. This is his first experience of the actual drug life, you know what I mean, and it gets real but somebody needed to put hands on but then the reality is ghost or Tommy is going to have to be able to recount. But then the thing is, this is Peggy Pablo. How does everyone have so much? How do Pete how do they have such easy access to get to that boys school and his dormitory room parents like when I was in college my parents never had that much access to Justice High School. That's right. That's right. Yeah, so he just brought up in there but Tommy goes and confronts to wreak about that. And now he says that he's another 1/4 another Petty thing hit so did you notice who did hold it to wreak remind you of with the v-neck sweaters and ago chain I said now from oh potato for. Okay, like who'd you say mine is mine is Wesley Snipes and New Jack City. Nino Brown Nino Brown. Yeah. Yeah good point. Yeah, because it because at one point he had the he had the black one on and you know, the famous scenes which I find out so but okay, so but going back to that with Tommy confronting to wreak does he now does Tommy now feel a certain way will he protect him like the way that he wanted to before when it came to with him falling out with his dad - I think he is going to protect him until He finds out that he's lying to him and then I think things will definitely switch up at that point at this point. I mean, it seems like Vincent will find event. It feels like it seems being that Vince is trying to he wants to play Both Sides. It seems obvious that Vince will probably you know, tell Tommy or I just I felt like I feel like Vince is dead. Well, here's the thing. He's gonna get discovered anyway, because where's he going to get the product especially now used to get double the product you don't hit the warehouse again. I mean, what are you going to do? It's all going to come to a head at some point. You know, Tommy. I wonder if Tommy Tommy doesn't even realize this is how inept I feel like his operation is Tommy doesn't know that the stuff that you're getting back. He stole out of the warehouse. He thinks this is just stuff that he's at left over from Canaan. He doesn't even recognize that your Warehouse has been hit. It's Compromise. No, I thought he did that which is why he went to oh, he asked him where he got it from and he said Kanan, I don't think that he because it's plausible that he could have had a stash McCain and so I don't think he realizes that he's lying. It's just it's sloppy business, but we're going to talk about this some more right? Yeah. I mean lastly we did see tariqa neffe getting a little more close and as we know that is Tasha jr. So that class was awkward. I think that's just all a setup once again for the sequel. So is there anything else because we talked about a lot but I just want to make sure is there anything in the chat room, they're saying that we didn't discuss. Well, I can tell you one thing. We didn't discuss really quickly. We did not discuss councilman Tate getting his officers to go spy on Ghost with the little spy watching him and swooping him up and chilling and ghost office at truth like a ghost. I'ma need you to straighten. Up. I like that scene. That was a sink. That was a battle of power. Like like a corny always says, you know, it's everybody's always struggling. So we saw at 8:00 and he thought he had the upper hand and then we saw a ghost let him know actually. I was in charge of everything now you put everybody else in danger and he and he took the power right back. I think that it's gonna I feel like it's going to bounce back and forth. I think so too at some point because you had the other guy. Guy sitting outside watching him. So but my only thing with this is you remember I was saying how ghosts is sloppy with some things but he spot on I felt like he has Tate in the palm of his hands. So like just as we thought tape was going to have control of that situation ghost completely got him. So I don't feel like there's anything else that I don't feel like there's anything else that taken do in order to outdo. I mean like here's the thing. The only thing that I think that it's not so much outdo him, but he he's gaining knowledge and information that ghost isn't quite aware that he has so it kind of puts the situation in different hands. Yeah, you know, I just again we don't know I think ghost is going to work his way into being a politician at some point. But yeah Lorenz was actually on The Breakfast Club. It's morning and during the interview. He did mention that councilman Tate is the city council version of ghost in the street world. So like they're they are of the same size as however different size here. Okay. So now before we wrap our yeah this week's top AfterBuzz power moment roll it I love watching your passion. You you're very, you know, the seasons, you know, exactly the episodes. I mean, you're so passionate about it. So I'm almost just really curious as to what your Was when you first sold this show when you first created the show rather and did you understand what you have now on your hands. Did you know it was going to be what it is? No 50 did 50 was like, oh girl. This show is a hit. You know, he's like shorty don't you worry about it, you know what I mean? But no, it was a very it's the first show that I ever pitched for show that I ever wrote for money the first pilot I ever wrote for money. It's the first show I've ever run. So to be honest with you. I was just like, okay God But I mean, I have a little sign on my desk and says Okay God and it's basically it's a shortened version of The Serenity Prayer or the third step prayer any of the steps from you know, 12-step things, but the idea is just I'm not in control of anything. So I do my best and then I let all everything else return it all over. So in this case. No, I didn't know I knew I would do my best. I knew I would show up. I knew I would be passionate and that I would give it my all and that's it if nobody watched. It was still the same show. So be it I left it all on the field. That's the thing. I always say if I leave it all on the field and I still lose there wasn't anything else I could do. That's right. Yeah, so that's what I always tell like younger people like you work as hard as you can every day that you can that you have breath, you know in your body and then whatever happens is great, you know, either way. Yeah just to piggyback on that question because we've all fallen in love with the characters, right? I mean so many people Thank you sis The Colony that was just some great inspiration motivation after looking over a few of the clips. And I was like that was dope. Yeah your first pitch and you see what came about seriously sakes. What's yeah five years that wow, that was motivating very motivating and other people have noticed I've come up to me and they've said how how they like to watch Courtney when she's here because she's so specific if you ask Quite soon. She'll tell you. Oh, yeah, by the way, don't you remember an episode of did it editor? Like she she she knows her stuff. She knows her stuff. Yeah. Yeah. So you guys have any predictions before we wrap Q is getting body. That's my prediction Q is gonna get a body somebody's going to die again next week as yeah. Yeah as always well, I don't have a prediction. Action, but what I will say is we spoke a little bit about the Jason miss a character and so his the actor's name is Mike do pod in my dupa will be here with us in two weeks Timber and 30th building September 30th y'all so we we have some questions for him and she'd be pretty exciting because there's something about his character that you know, I think ghost is going to kill him. He's just a matter of when also to watching him as an as an actor. He's gotten real. With the character to like you can start to see his swag in his in his performance. So we're looking forward to having him instead of you. Absolutely. So we've had a great time let everyone know where you guys can be found on social media. Hey, it's your man. Jimmy V. You can find me at the gym EV and shout out to Avery for joining us this episode. Thanks every hope the kidneys better. You can follow me everywhere at stiletto Jill. Hit me up share your thoughts and maybe we will feature you next week. Yes. Yes, and I'm bam Erickson. You can follow me on all social media at BAM Erickson. We want to thank our special guest Hayley Mason who plays the role of black Grimace and thank you to all the people and thank you to all the people in the chat room, you know, we're looking and it's just like look at all these comments. It's that's love right there. That's lovely. That's a great deal of shout out to you track Eric everybody Angel would thank you guys for checking us out. We'll see you next week. Yes. Thank you guys. Bye our founder Keven undergaro and me Maria Menounos. Like to thank you for tuning in to AfterBuzz TV. Remember, we're not just the first where the biggest in the world and we're the only destination for all your favorite TV shows whatever you crave. We've got it to go to activist tv.com check out our lineup Buzz ya later. You just press your inner. Those are the whole so we do not necessarily reflect the views of AfterBuzz TV or folders opens.
In this recap “Why is Tommy Still Alive” hosts Bam Ericson, Jill Munroe, and Jimmy VIbert break down the episode and have special guest Avery Mason join in via skype to discuss his character Black Grimace. About Power After Show: Follow our POWER AFTER SHOW, to see how our hosts follow a man who successfully lives his crazy double life. We discuss this extravagant lifestyle with all the surprising twists that occur in the show. Subscribe here for in depth discussions, reviews and recaps including some of your favorite cast members. ABOUT POWER: The series follows James St. Patrick, nicknamed "Ghost", owner of a popular New York City nightclub. In addition, he is a major player in one of the city's biggest illegal drug networks. He struggles to balance these two lives, and the balance topples when he realizes he wants to leave the drug ring in order to support his legitimate business. It appears James "Ghost" St. Patrick has it all -- a drop-dead gorgeous wife, a stunning Manhattan penthouse, and the power and success that come with owning hot new nightclub Truth. But a closer look reveals a man living a double life. When Ghost isn't tending to his Fortune 500 business, he's catering to clients of another operation: a drug empire that serves only the rich and influential. While loyal sidekick Tommy protects the cash-cow narcotics venture at all costs, Ghost's new reality is using Truth as more than a front to launder money. It's a way out of the drug game and into a legitimate life with his family, even if everything he loves becomes unknowingly threatened. "Power" is co-executive produced by Curtis "50 Cent" Jackson (who also co-stars) and show creator Courtney Kemp ("The Good Wife"). 