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It's nice and mellow he's going to be on the beach right now. Yeah, I'm 34. Here we come. Everybody Welcome to AfterBuzz TV traveler show for the challenge for the world. I'm so excited to talk tonight's episode. This final was so good. It was so intense. It was so grueling was beautiful. It was Scenic. We're going to dive into everything. I'm so excited to hear. Everybody's thoughts great episode great winner. We got it all going. My name is Jenna bussiere. I almost said Jenna underscore bussiere. Again. Thanks everybody for tuning in. Thanks so much with people the live chat. We see you. We see that's a lot of you stayed up till 1:30 a.m. Crying so Colleen. Thank you so much for your see you don't even worry about it and stay up late stay up late. You know, forget what you gotta do tomorrow the challenge. This final is more important. We got the full gang here tonight. This panel is alive. We got David Christopher the back end Pamela grosses Hill is here. She's on the hill. She's on the Sand Dune family grosses Hill and we got the Dan langran up in here. Here hashtag Disney. Danwoah final so good. Yeah overall thoughts. Oh boy. I thought it was amazing. No, honestly, I think I mean that was crazy. Definitely. The grueling is final if that's even a word that I've ever seen. It was brutal some parts right or even told you I was like, this is just mean like you felt bad and it was just one thing after another and in my opinion I felt when they all deserve to win each get a million dollars. I thought they deserved it. You know, of course was written for Turbo so I'm super stoked. One I got so much heart integrity and just everything that I look for, you know, when a competitor and he's just awesome super awesome, but it was crazy. You know some of those things like you seemed like Hunter that was a bummer to see Hunter quit and you know, but I would even say it's quitting. Yeah, he was just so it's not quitting but you know, that was he he literally could not walk anymore that's different when you cannot like walnuts gracious David David, And was hallucinating and Hunter are basically the same exact thing and you buddy said last week that we couldn't walk anymore. His legs are cramping up like he can walk. That's right. So Maddie just like I can't continue anymore. Like that's that's how I took it turbo said he couldn't feel his left leg tonight and win that's my Turbo one turbos going. Great. That's why you want but Hunter quit. Okay. Well, I mean it's okay to bait too much. Yeah Pam and Dan's overall thoughts overall. I agree. This was so hard from start to finish that it was like an episode of Black Mirror. I kind of felt like it was gonna be like and just one more lap from TJ and tell everyone just died in the last person would just keep going forever. Yeah. It was I was a really grueling asked I agree. It was crazy and we were all discussing. I don't want to Up too much ahead, but turbos move which ultimately I think gave him the way and I've not choosing not to eat anything. We were like that's chocolate need a banana, but I think he was really smart and I was rooting for Cara Maria. But if anyone other than her one, I was happy for who the winner was. Yeah with that said about turbo though, if he had one banana just think how fast he would have finished even write faster than everybody. All right, but uh, yeah overall if this is all about turbo guys everything he said tonight. I mean they did the day those producers. Ran that turbo storyline into the ground, you know what I wanted them to go deeper because I freaking loved everything. He said it was amazing. It was about the O2 though so much prosody. I was so much props to Wes and I was telling Dan that's before. So a lot of these people are highly trained conditioned athletes and this is their lifestyle. So for somebody like Theo who was an Olympic Athlete and somebody even like a poly who was a really good athlete and his life revolves around working out. I'm not sure what his day job is I honestly just all you see this guy do is work out her less owns his own business, right? He works a day job. He has a company has a wife. He's starting a family as a kid. So for West to be able to be on the same level as the rest of these people endurance wise the competition wins your Warrior Ninja Warrior exactly turbo and Wes right. It's like a Ginger from Camp exactly. So that was I was sitting here thinking like we know Wes has been around the block. This is not his first rodeo. We know he's experience, but for him to be in this grueling of it. College and keep up with them. Athletically. I was like, wow this really speaks to yeah, he is after four years of not being on the show. So I think he held it down healed his own Cara was winning me over again this episode because I've gone back and forth with her the last few seasons, but I did feel really sad when she plopped and she lost it was It was kind of crushing like a little sad puppy. Oh, so Cara after she won the last season alone. It was like do it for the women Cara but I will say was about Theo as well and how incredible he did and I was so so sad and scared when it came down to that final law that was actually like almost shaking and are like about to cry your eyes out because I felt so bad for him because he killed this challenge. Yes, turbo degree. Yes West agree, but Theo that entire first leg like this was his to lose and win if he didn't get that lock. I'm like that really is just such a blow. Yeah to the heart to everything. Also this challenge that I thought this was scenically beautiful. You don't think so. No, it was like dancer desert. But once I got my water it was nice. But to me it made me realize like how big the world is. Do you see just the vastness of the Sand Dune on Sand Dunes and I felt like West did when he was like I wanted them to open up the truck and like we'd see a rainforest where I like as far as the eye can see Sand Dune and remind me of Star Wars. I mean, I don't know. I thought it was pretty cool. I've never been anywhere like that. So for me, I was like, wow this almost feels like a movie scene or something like it looked like For a second that they were in front of a green screen. Have you ever driven down here to Vegas and cry just hop out of the car wash in the desert in Israel? I don't know. I like I like water so desert is actually hellacious for me. My most unseen a Kenny thing with water ocean. Lay anyway, no, I was like it's pretty it's awful. It was just literally Brown as far as the eye can see it was just like the how what's the term this Cinema? Like I said, maybe you just felt like okay. I don't know I get it like kind of cinematically we could look cool with the zoom out here doing some beers in the girls. I thought it was really cool and interesting to see them look like ants in like they were her own separate Planet. I mean it put it in perspective like this is incredible to see sorry sis is of no. No, I'm interrupting to say something super random Chuck Williams rights in Jenna is so beautiful. It's I don't like walking to the ocean like in Santa Monica where the beach is really Long Beach that when it was like it's just a five-mile Sprint to the end then it's like oh my God these poor people have they not been through enough. That's why I was a bum. It seems that they are feed we watch a recording. It was a little glitchy. So we missed some spots here and there we're like wait, wait, wait, wait, they were just on the Sand Dune now. They're back in the Ping Locker going somewhere else. Like you said Pam. It was one thing after the next. Oh, you know you just ran what was it total 40 miles or something? And then now you have another five miles with math equations along the way. All right, we're gonna get into all the specifics. So, how about We Jump Right In. How's that sound? Yeah start from the top of it start from the top. So we end on a cliffhanger so last week we see that there's going to be a tribunal in a challenge or a final for the first time ever. And it's Theo turbo and Wes up there and they get to pick between Cara hunter or ninja Thea was first up. He picks Hunter because he says there's no fight left in this guy and Cara's obviously is a lie, and I feel like it's really tight and Friends of ninja West Coast Cara even though she's a vet and he could Easily said a rookie for ninja and turbo instead of calling out ninja who's he who he personally has had problems with he goes home to her. What did you guys think about Hunter being the guy chosen to go in I was surprised I thought why get rid of him if he is that everyone was like I'm picking him because he doesn't have anything left in him, which great let him face himself out. Why don't you get rid of one of the two competitors that sells some fight in them, but I guess it worked out. Yeah, super random. I mean I picked them to pick hunter. Well, I picked it because I thought Hunter had more left in him. But like as soon as he's getting picked, he's like coming up with a laundry list of why they elements and injuries that he has some like oh wait Hunter actually has nothing left. Yeah. I was I want to know how long that that dog walk was it look like it was to meet ya and he was like, I'm done in last at all. Yeah, that sucks. That's the thing too. I thought like you Dan. I thought Hunter had a lot more in him. It was such a bummer. Like I was pretty bummed to see him just kind of tap out at that point, you know, and I think it was obvious to he's like, they said he You know, they knew obviously that he was done for so get him out of there. But I agree. I think it would have been smart if that's how you felt keep him around make the rest of it a little girls. Are you think right but I felt like, you know, obviously they're going to call a hunter because I think they just want to get rid of someone. So I was so surprised by this as well exactly what you guys are saying hitting the nail on the head. Why are you going to throw somebody into an elimination to leave the challenge when they're already defeated, right? Oh, this guy is not going to last might as well get rid of him know those three people you want in the final get rid of someone that's still strong. I guess maybe they wanted or they all just being nice this season. We see that turbo is the Lyon and he is only on for everybody and it's its Integrity first with turbo, which maybe wouldn't be my style of play. But God bless him. He's an angel on Earth. However, why would you you want to win that money? Are they trying to maybe set somebody else who's more deserving to win the money in the in the position to do it? Like maybe get rid of Hunter because Hunter will lose in the final anyway. But if you get rid of ninja and she loses in the elimination that sucks because she actually got a good chance to win that money. Do you know what I'm saying? I don't know why where their logic was except that maybe and I might be wrong. I feel like guys feel like they're playing against guys and girls feel like they're playing against girls. So maybe they just felt like we've earned this he hasn't let's eliminate him. I mean, it looks good. Let's look at this way. Theo's friends with car and probably ninja little bit. He'll throw Hunter. In West had to stay with Hunter and he did he did his thing. We didn't have to walk in. That was his boy and then turbo. Yeah, he could have really gone ninja after that whole thing. But you know, what at the same time maybe turbo thought there might be some like strength things in the next round. He's like I'll get rid of Hunter so I don't have to worry about the straight thing. And you know, what turbos a gentleman and is he going to pick the two ladies? He gave the gut the guys more food that time too. So there you go. That might be why he went with that is a very good excellent of them thoughts on this actual elimination. Really hard after everything they had. It could have been really cool if they lasted longer right? I mean, I think personally it was it was mess it was mean is just me they were already dead. There are so done for you. I mean, it's just like how we said hello. Here's one more thing right at the end. You know, I mean, it's like you can't blame any of them for just being like dude I'm done. But at the same time it's just like again to be that far and to have that they want you to be those two people that have to like still do that to keep going. It's not was moderately gentle considering what they've been through and how do you be you know, Here's what kind of here's what I was thinking was going to happen. If they lasted long enough every five minutes, you put five more miles per hour on that hog, you got in that truck and it's then that can eliminate a more quick and somewhat entertaining seeing Hunter struggled trying to keep up with this. I live in funny and entertaining and a little more better than a walking. Yeah. Do you think that the Rope was Heavy? Yeah. Yeah sure. It was fairly but I think what you guys are not understand he's I don't know. I mean you work a lot you work out a lot. I mean like when you get to that point of exhaustion like you're cramping your style like your legs, like have you ever just like ran so much or done some kind of obstacle to her and you know next day you wake up and you're just it's hurts to walk like your body's at that point. Yeah, just walking man is enough because they've already been walking and running all day all day in the sun you dreamed. It's just like that that's enough, you know, and then that's just cruel if you speed up and then you gotta hold on. Exactly. I agree. I agree but that's that's hard shows how strong ninja is and she just has it all comes to your down to your mentality in your Poker Face to you know, how they kind of say in yoga. It's like relax your face, relax your breathing. If you can kind of fool yourself, then your you can feel your body sort of thing and maybe that was Ninja strategy because she's cool calm and collected and this probably sucks for her to let's not forget. You almost died bless the first leg last episode of The Challenge or the finale. But she seems like her poker face is so strong and she seems like she's just she's in it. Yeah, no matter what how hard it is. Yeah. I love you brought up, you know us working out because I do want to let you guys know you're going to want to stick around this entire recap because we always talk Colleen were making it worth it for you Hollywood. We always talk about how these people perform as if we could do it. We probably know deep down inside we can't do it, but we try and we have a special segment. So for you guys later of us run in a final. Yep, so stick with us and see who our AfterBuzz final winner is and you won't be disappointed. Let's move on. Well, if the first actually starting at 1 I want to ask you guys are you disappointed in Hunter? I was disappointed about that final you're just talking about who won that I don't see the point in that I bet you those producers for sure. I'm disappointed for Hunter. I feel like like he got not I feel like he did get first off the wrist one. He always comes so close and then he got the money stolen when he won and then to get this close and have gone through that awful day something. That's why I was rats why I was rooting for right? Yeah. I want to see Hunter take home some money. So it sucks. I'm not disappointed in him. I just feel bad for him. I mean, even if you could have pulled off third place we find out who gets 50k. I mean Hello, I'll take 50. Yeah. Let's see what finish right that's and finished a I mean I know. Make up for the what are you lose last time a million or a million half a mil again the most forgiving I'll ever be for anybody quitting in a challenge or final because this just looked god-awful and I couldn't I can't imagine what it would be like to be them going through this. Yeah. It is interesting to see Hunter do it because he does always speak about never quitting and it's always hard that's going to get him through anything. Right and then he drops quickly. He drops in three. Well how I applied need to find out how long they I actually did it for Sano with editing. But you knew going into this Hunter he was he quit before he even got it. He was just thinking about not doing it and then he had that one season where he ran through walls with like a broken arm and stuff. But we have to remember that was all like that was all strength stuff. That was none of that was endurance and that's really where he what he needs to work doesn't need to work on that. It's a mentality. Like you said Jen that's what it really comes down to and that's season his mentality was was different though. He was just like when razor sharp Focus like I'm running Dad. It was elimination. The challenges that he could be announced that it comes down to. Yeah, so and that's that's what was he like you said June. He already checked out before it started. So at that point, it's we do have to say and Hunters defense. He did run like 25 miles that - so his endurance is still a little better than you know, a lot of people's yep. All right. So we're gonna be moving on they get back in this pain Locker. They go do trivia. They go do bad of all we got a lot of final coming up again. We already mentioned. We appreciate you guys so much for sticking up late for us or Dan has a message for you. Yeah. Thanks for making us. Us the ESPN of TV talk guys, you know, give us a thumbs up subscribe maybe write us a nice comment, which you guys are ready tonight. We love that five star rating on iTunes. We also like that AfterBuzz means the world to us. We've been pumped to be here for season 33 with you guys. So please hang out with us for the rest of the night and leave us a comment below. Thanks guys. So let's move on to trivia question because they get there and I'm pumped. Because we barely saw any trivia this season and I love it. And I love feeling as though there's other people in the world who know just as little as I do. So this is nice and they get that one question. What is the longest or largest river in the world? And Cara? You think that she's dead wrong right are is the only one who steps into the sand pit that's has a be in it. And then Wes Theo turbo everyone else who are from all different worlds, right following wet like car did that and then they don't all waited to see what West did everyone just thinks Wes is the smartest. So Cara wouldn't be and Wes went in a and then everybody else didn't a I was hoping to see a few more questions to ask. So that's what I mean. I'm shocked that West was wrong. First off. I don't know if car was guessing but I said Maya I was like, I think it's denial It came it was multiple choice and they said basically always choose be So car was smart and that situation I probably would've just chose be because of that movie because it was it. I think it's summer school and the guys I'd be like, it's just wasn't you and I graduated I passed but yeah, so again, so this is why it's like trivia maybe because teachers like all right, Cara, you're the winner. Let's keep going. We're like wait what the hell the right trivia portion. You really gave them one question and you didn't even bother. And it was like now I'm good. Like I don't know Rivers very well. So just leave she got she didn't pick one. That's wasted. She showed up. Yeah, so dumb you get a boat. It's like wasn't burpees or something. Yeah, she got like time at it. Well, she lost ultimately so whatever but I mean, oh no winners that's interesting that she'd even try because what if she just went with car then they could have another round and maybe she would got that mile. That's probably what it happened around. Yeah, if they're my no, I'm just saying like damn she could have been to get it done so much you could have maybe His third that we're moving in the past. Yeah, so there's our fun trivia portion and then but Cara as the winner so she gets to go on this like Dune ride, which is a great benefit because it cuts out entire mile. Yeah through he'll talk about the death run. This is the Dune death run from hell, but she also looks like shows the ride from Hell on this Dune thing because this thing is whipping around it's like, what are those rides on? Amusement parks tilt the world looks like they're going to put her on some it's going to make her want to puke after this ride, but she gets a head start. She gets to the second checkpoint and this basically connect for but it sucks. You can't catch a break. She gets a break for not having to go through all this run you got to rest she gets arrested and she keeps going to benefit a lot from that not having to go through that grueling run but she gets there and she just has to wait for somebody else to get them to play a guitar which sucks. This reminded me of that Vendetta's final that we love so much. Where they all got to this one checkpoint and they just had to wait for somebody else to come play a game. What is the point? I don't know. It's stupid. It's I guess it's trying to level things out just that must be just give them something individual again. Yeah, I wasn't a fan of that. I think they want to level the playing field because if car was able to just continue, you know what I mean? They had to make it. I don't know. Well, it's then we'll get a check. Yeah, which I think was ridiculous to but yeah, I think you guys want to talk about running. I gather these sand dunes that look so sure it's I mean running in thick sand like that. You're not moving properly your body. It's awful. Well Wes said it perfectly he was like, this is the amalgamation of like running walking hiking and all this awful other things like just terrible that you your body's not used to you can't practice that you can't unless your turbo and you'll I mean like I don't know how you're like running double shape for that like how you can like one mile becomes two miles because you're kind of just running in place almost and then you're Yourself going. Yeah, of course everything any of them again kudos to all of them because That was can you imagine like Ashley cries when she's a sock isn't in her luggage and threatens to go home. Like can you imagine some of the other competitors doing? That's a good point because so many people in this competition. So it's West and car who are two really seasoned vets to mentally strong. That's who do not give up have great endurance. That is such a good point. Could you imagine if there was somebody of like a lesser caliber? I would like to um, the challenge pool who? Yeah that made it to the finals. It's like it wouldn't even who disagree Done it off. I really would like to see Paulina though. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, I would be very curious to see how that turned out good call. So we get to battle ball and everyone is just running through the Cara. Yeah turbos up first Checkmate. See you later. Co comes up Checkmate. See you later. And you know, I'm back and forth a car here because she's kind of crying victim a little bit more like why me? Why is me? Oh my God. I just don't get it. But at the same time I get it because you don't we don't know what it's like to be in her element right now. Oh, nothing run what they run my new she didn't get that IV of nutrition. So yeah, really just malnourished probably delusional and it's always the simple thing. Sometimes that are the hardest and if your minds not getting it you're not getting no at least in my experience if I don't get something I'm like well shit. Yeah, if you're not seeing it, sometimes you're not seeing it and I agree. I was like cars being a brat. I guess. I would be a brat. Hey gets hectic. Oh, don't be such a spoilsport, but I was like good God. There's a million dollars on the line. You think you have this lead your the defending champ like yeah, but having a little bit of frustration is natural. So I forgave her but I'm not so sympathetic because it literally is dropping balls connect for like come on Cara Ryan. You just wants okay twice three times, like really and you have that huge lie, like get it together girl and I'm a car. Hey, I'm a fan I support you but the thing is like really write that sucks that And then the woman ninja was like literally obvious right in front of her or hey, you might want to block that one. She didn't do it. I think we're having this weird tense beef the entire time. I don't know if it was just like the last two girls were like we're competing against just each other or not everywhere else if they kind of had that feeling so I think by the time did you came she was like why me like God hates me today. Oh, yeah, like she was definitely tapped out. I'll say this it was a puzzle so car should have been a little better. Something she's good. And when it clicked for comes on a big puzzle, I'll give her this though. Sometimes in Connect Four. There are two ways to win and you can only block one way. So maybe that happened we didn't really get to see how it all went down. They sped that up maybe happened once or twice so she got screwed up the first two did get that diagonal that you get if someone doesn't know that trip, you know so far so she might not know that trick. Yeah, but again, I actually don't blame her. I'm kind of sympathetic to the situation because I suck at Connect Four and when again when you're not getting it He's not getting it and we've we've established that every challenge you suck at nice. Imagine. If she didn't have to run that mile though guys got the rest. Yeah, their brains after running through that thick sand or probably a little where you know more where there's like that that I suck at most things. So way to see you later sis to remember that from the Move sis, but I'm so good. Yes, let's move on to the food. This is on the surface looks like the best food portion of any final ever. We're definitely will get into the one part of why it might not actually be beneficial because I have a little bit of a take on that, uh, but to give you the run through Turbo with first he gets there and he can either eat some he can eat a little and then assign the rest of it to other people or just assigned food and move on so he chooses not to eat. Eat what you guys think is the wrong choice in the long run because he didn't get any nutrition or anything. Right? I mean obviously he pulled it out so it doesn't bright point but that was a risk factor, especially if everybody else is eating now, they're getting the carbs getting the protein like I think at the very least you should have grabbed that banana in run. You know what I mean? I don't know if I can I think had to stand there and wait banana banana, you know, that's gonna help you to cramps. You need that calcium the potassium, you know, that's those carbs that fuel like you need. You know, I mean you're doing like extreme challenges here. You need something to feel your body so that to me was a risk. I honestly thought he was going to kind of tap out later on especially in some fall and then obviously it's all car like she had the best food, you know, I mean, she had the peanut butter and jelly said that protein she had her car she had like everything she needed obviously though. She seemed fine after she's like I felt rejuvenated same thing like west of that later on. She guess you got your food, but you got your power food, you know, because your body is that ketosis stage, you know, you're just like depleted at that point. You just need to nourish your body. And so I think at that point A point like he took a risk by doing that because I could easily caught up to him now. They have the energy to recharge like so it was a risk it I mean he pulled it out. Yeah, he should at least had a banana in my opinion. I think he could have spared like one minute. And again, we glitched out and don't know their final times one minute to like eat a banana, but ultimately I don't blame him for wanting to save the time because Theo said it was probably at least 25 minutes. Yeah, so that's what I heard was 25 minutes and I'm like that. That was the that's the game right there turbo can just keep going. You got to make up 25 minutes turbo is going to do something just mess up a hundred percent to even get close. So that's why I'm like checkpoint to whoever got there first. If you're even if you were in the top three and you got there first if you were no matter who it was it was Turbo S or Theo who ever got to that food challenge first, I think was winning no matter what 25 points you can't come back from the top three. Yeah. Yeah unless it was someone that had lower time. I think you did have to be in the top layer the top right clothes in those. Top three scores that we had seen today one. I think was the only person who prepared for eating the most. The only thing with eating again, it is going to be something that's beneficial in the long run. But I think it's one of those things when your stomach shrinks after not eating for so long you've ever had a long day where you're like, oh my God, I didn't eat in ten hours and you try to eat something. You can barely feel like it. Yeah. So you see Wes, he's kind of having the downside to now having a shove all this food without even if it's good food. Still eating a lot in the hot sun after your body has been so heavily exerted. You see what happened like your body can kind of spiral in certain ways like you get queasy you get a stomach ache. So I'm almost like dang maybe turbo did something good here because he didn't have to mess up his body. And anyway, like when your blood sugar so long and then you have to pound on the student it spikes and then you're just kind of like AA pedak instantly kicks in stomachache instantly kicks in you're dizzy or throwing up. So I'm like maybe skipping a meal was almost just like keep going till your body gives out a situation before we continue one of the ways we keep all these shows for you free is by our amazing sponsors. And today Spotify is one of our sponsors on Spotify. You can listen to all of your favorite artists and podcasts in one place for free. You don't even need a premium account Spotify as a huge catalogue of podcasts on every topic including the one you're listening to right now on Spotify. You can follow your favorite podcast. So you don't miss an episode premium users can even download episodes to listen to offline wherever they are and you can easily share what you're listening to with all Your friends and following on Instagram if you haven't done so already be sure to download the Spotify app and search for AfterBuzz TV on Spotify or browse podcasts in the your library tab. Also, make sure you follow us you never miss an episode of AfterBuzz TV, but I mean, that's the only downside to it. Well, there's a difference between like eating prop like just a portion and then like having it force feed yourself, right? I mean, yeah. Yeah, that was the issue Westside. He waits but not yeah, he was stunned and Theo he had a good amount to but No, I think yeah, it seemed like West Side the most or PE at least he didn't he just wasn't successful with it at all is hurting. Now. How do you guys feel though about Ninja because I'm kind of like a little like, I don't really think it's that fair because she threw up her food so it's kind of like, well, what are you gonna do maker? I know I mean, I'm just saying I'm just saying but it's like that's kid throws up in past Seasons to how its kind of sucks though that like you get to throw it up and put the other people have to keep it and I get it. No one likes to run while being to having just puke if I go here I go again sound like a baby after I just puke. It's like I'm in bed to not touch me. I am curled up in a ball and no one wants to puke and then go run into in sand dunes for another Ten Mile most I was like, oh if you're in that position you that bad like you might as well just make yourself throw up. I don't think that's my I'm guessing or I'm making up but I would say that this is true. You probably can't make yourself throw up to like eat more faster, but if Throw up you throw up. I just feel like in a sense. So it's kind of its kind of like an unfair advantage of a little bit. You know what I mean? But harp seem to want her to throw up to waste. I like to take like while she finished eating right taking time out of your eating if you're like eating and then throwing up and then eating and throwing up you're wasting time. That is I think that's sometimes a lot of to though David when you can tell when somebody's like eating food, but you can tell that they probably haven't swallowed it and they're just spitting it back up, right but ninjas puke did look like you did get it. To eat and puke weird that is essentially like re eating your stop your okay. Alright, one more thing on the food for as much crap as we gave the producers for making this hard on them. They gave him good food either least. Come on, right but still nutritious and know it was all that food in there is very non-perishable because they're in the middle of effing know where it says use that word correctly. So it's bananas. It's granola. It's peanut butter and bread. There's no like meat. There's no fact, there's nothing that needs to be refrigerated or well-kept like yeah. This is like apocalyptic basement type of food, you know. Yeah, it's good food though. It's you utilize what else could they they Coulda done that for ya as we should ask her all this is like really die. If they have to eat a brain and I've who knows what like desert animals would come out the like yes, good point. Yeah. Okay moving on. So we think this is the worst of it right? I'm sitting there thinking turbo takes off. Oh, he's just got to make it down this hill and into the pain locker and he wins role like this is the final stretch. No, they finally make it down this which by the way, perhaps turbo. I thought he was gonna I thought his body was gonna fail and when he sat down on the mountain and he was like, I cannot feel my legs. I was like dang this is it for him? This is so sad, but they make it to the pain Locker now, they take another drive to the beach and they get the bombshell another five effing miles hummus and it's just the endless sand that made me feel so bad for them because not only is it so much and so hard but It's so repetitive that it's just like it's one thing if they were doing a trail run and then I run downhill and then a mud run. I don't think they've ever had to do this much just desert running not of course, they haven't but it's so that's what I find awful. There was even a change visually or some it's like you're just keep running. It was like it was almost like funny and sad at the same time because there was like, okay you're gonna To continue going you have to do this a lot. But then you have to canoe and then guys you're running five miles. You know, it's like of course we are of course how good is this final stretch though? Because I love the way that they do the size with the math problem. Yeah. It's like that just might be my favorite like Puzzle Challenge part of the of the finale was the fact that I do some math while they ran. It was great because they even put you things together at least was just running in a circle in a figure eight. I think it's something completely new something we've never seen before and it starts off easy like else. 14:19. Okay, here we go. And then it's like add a hundred here you times 10 times 114 here then subtract by 30 or divided by 25 here and you're like, okay now I'm completely lost of the fact that it looks like the I'm confused by Theo here though because I was really impressed in the beginning some like Theo's not stopping he's doing this on the run. And I mean he said he was gonna puzzles. He said he was smart. No now he's proving it. Yeah, he gets to the lock first and then everybody starts Blowing by and what do you think? This is a lock malfunction or he just couldn't go he hasn't he a mess up. So how do you do a hundred and forty times 20 in your head while running and you know, hey, thank God. They had that sand though because actually could write the answer on concrete or something. They can't even wear with a right that I wouldn't I have to write it down when it's when it's double digit multiplication unless you're like wow. You have to sit and count. What is what is turbos weakness though? I can't find it. He's just every time he just does he just someone that is so nice and combined? No, sweetness is not weakness, but he is consider it if you know, he didn't do that. Great. There are one or two of us. Remember nobody. I know I have to go back. I can't remember if he's that nice. How come he would not forgive Ninja for like eight weeks ago. Yeah. And correctness and she crossed a line with him that he considered dishonorable. Yeah, she behaved dishonorably off with her head. I mean he did seem like he forgave her at the end. Anyways, yeah, I love the math. I love math and that was great. And I love that the last person to complete it is eliminate. That was fun. That was a nice fun twist to I did feel so bad for car because that again they just had gone through so much to just write have it so great every but she had so many opportunities that date and tune. Not get last right? She did she had to give her a bunch opportunities for her. I'm not saying. Oh she deserved anything. I'm just saying who feds gotta hurt. I thought it was great to how it came down to them the partners like that was like a yeah great ending like how ironic and that was the only part that was really cool. It was cool, but sad yeah Theo was very sweet and genuine his confessional. He was like dang. This is the worst way to do it. Like I'm very and it came down to the end for us too because I'm sitting there like compute. Who's the other like but I don't really want car to lose either they came down to I would have felt bad for anybody about opening that that point need to I think I like it. If I was in that position that's kind of the way if I'm going out out wanted to be by my partner, you know, kind of cool, you know, yeah, I mean watching them all of them and what they went through with both legs of the challenge everybody there deserve to be there everybody there gave it more than you would think as possible. So it was hard at that point seeing anyone. But yeah, that was not get to content. That was a great part of that leg of the final and then we get on the kayaks turbo was going but then West gets in and West comes in like hauling ass and smiling like that Ginger villain. He is all of a sudden he's on turbos heels turbo washes washes up on shore first gets the point. Hi. I don't know why I guess it's all timed anyway, but this is the end right? Why the hell can't they just get their boat on the shore and then run to the light right? That would be On me like oh I'm so damn close. I can't just run. I have to get here now wait for every their tips their time to stop final Sprint. There's no point in it. You're not going to get a much of a lead. I mean, well actually West was kind of slower but no, I don't know it was it was laying they should just let him go out and then do the Last Mile and one more Sprint would see if you take the time factor out of it. You just spin it like that. Then it becomes down to essentially like someone winning a Sprint race out of all that it wouldn't do that. That's what name but it takes away like I think the timing is good. And I think it probably is more to the dyno absolute them running together each type of thing, you know, it's the drawing and spring together. That's my point. Why not? Just let him Sprint their first your first your second your I mean it didn't it didn't still time that they could have done it. Either way. I don't know they just chose that way, but I don't know why they exactly chose that. Yeah, but let's talk about turbo being the Leone because he's so nice and at this point would you do the same thing? So you get to the shore first and you see that somebody who you've Competed against the entire season. It's not that there's any bad blood between them but verdicts still out on who has the best time and turbo is essentially helping us competition get a better time by telling him this what you got to do control your, you know control your kayak and turn maybe he's now that I'm saying it a lot of like maybe is really not telling him anything that is in common sense. Like turn your kayak. I just don't pump West was following him. So close. You know, how the hell do you get lost not to mention if you see you too. Yeah. You see a body on the beach go towards the body is also running the challenge when he's waving you in I can't hear you. What he why you calling me over so I go this way. Yeah. I knew it was it was weird turbo was coaching them in a little bit because what are you gonna do sit at turn your back like once he got to the thing and you're watching other people. I don't know. It seems like that's in his nature. But ultimately he still can't make the move faster than they're going to move. So turbo was trying to give Theo Oh the combination code I believe in the law of the other one. Yeah, you are right he was and I just don't think Theo could hear him. Yeah, and he was yelling. And in theory Theo was Theo and West were his next to help both of them and he helped the girls before that with the foodstuff. So turbo help. But he's rubbing it in anyone's face. I don't think that but if you're really good and you're like, I'll let that person get a little it's like you get throw someone a bone. I think he's literally it's helping I think he had a pretty solid lead. So let's fast forward to the end then everybody runs across the finish line and like I was saying do you guys outside this sounds like so cheesy and just so not the point of the challenges that that I always forget that there's money at stake and that these people are winning with nearly or leaving with nearly a million dollars from like just the fun. Film intent of this being the worst and hardest thing you'll ever probably do in your life physically Crossing that finish line has got to be the most successful feeling and just watching them. I felt inspired watching them like damn they went through hell and I know you want to win that money. You don't want it to be for nothing, but just crossing that finish line that's got to be the best feeling because you never go through anything like that again in your life. It's like that Rocky moment, you know, sometimes I just want to go the distance. It's like dude you just that was insane like not even just the respect you probably have obviously for yourself, but Just for each other. There's gotta be a bond. There were just like you're going to have that respect now because you guys just went through hell together. That's why I love turbo and Theo running across together hugging each other landing on each other. I'm like, that is the best feeling in the world. I would feel so happy with myself for just finishing. Just knowing I didn't quit. Yeah, I guess that's why ninja wasn't as you know pissy at the end as I feel like I would have been if I was did all that and just got nothing and just I guess you're on that high a finishing. But how did what is she what is she gonna do piss and moan? Like that's not that's not a good look. There's nothing she can do about it. She got forth it is what is that her Montage? So everybody gets their ending Montage as they always do horsey just her like thing with a stick hitting her head. Yeah. She's just having a temper tantrum in her mom to watch it is weird that that's when she lost it. So what would you rather lose in cars position or ninjas? And just matter what she finished I'm gonna cross that Finish Line. Yeah specially being car because I am so on cars page with this where it says math problem where I'm not finishing this so to know that I feel just I'm big on telling myself. I'm stupid. So I just because you can be really pissed at myself at that time. I went out it that it is a sucky way to go out after you've run 50 miles dude. How ironic is it though? That ninja said for the kayak lock part. She goes I'm not gonna be left here embarrassed and alone on the beach exactly how this season ends with Ninja so we got down there and we're waiting here the times are you guys who did you think we're gonna was gonna win? I was turbo after seeing the food challenge. I was like the turbos got first. I think I thought turbo to I'm I couldn't and I thought it was between turbo and yeah for sure. Oh, yeah, but I thought it was I thought it was I thought it was gonna go. Yeah, I was that was the order I had it was the Lord of this house like this has to be if I'm doing my math feel beat Wesson, most of the stuff turbo got that 25 million lead on Monday deal right there. So Theo how you can we have 25 minutes. Yeah, so this Is that the icing on top of the cake of the best season in a while on the bus final and possibly history is Turbo wedding. So congratulations. We love you. You're the best come back anytime despite. What all the other competitors say. He can be like what the Warriors are to the NBA right now. It's the final of just so he comes back. Everyone else should be shook up. Well, they're gonna they're all gonna gun for him. He I believe he's coming back. He's coming for 34 and they're gonna all go A gun for him. So it's going to be a peace Ambassador like he needs to go to places that can agree and like broker. Peace because he's so right true that you can't argue with his logic. It just seems like the ultimate truth that I nominate turbo for but you're telling me when like a school Wes Wes bananas Zach who ever comes back 434 you tell me they don't all just team up and just like this get Turbo out early. And yes, he may have to take him out early. I agree 100% Dan. That's exactly what's gonna happen. He's going to Target on his back. Now. They know cats out the bag. This guy is good gunning for you either so it will but it would have been one matter if you have a big enough lying so many people. Yeah, when it starts off, I do all turbo can't fight on everybody. You know, I don't know bananas even had everyone against him for a whole season and he shook me he made it pretty far down you guys. Let's take a question from the panel Boza who is our loyal live chatter. He's always in here. So what's up, Joey? Well done anything like that. Question for the panel looking back on the finale as a whole. Do you think the producers went too far with it as a whole? I thought they did these people could have died. It's a really good question, you know and I think we discussed that a yeah to like AB moments. You know, like I said, I'm kind of like mean like that. I want to just push your body. So but to even me at some point I was like that's a little much you know, like I just said even that rope challenge with Hunter ninja I was like, that's a lot like that sucks, you know, so maybe, you know, may they be If only you were out walking that line, you know, I mean so they tiptoed the line for sure. I mean the way that when it came to the first leg like we said last episode I did think it was too hard because we saw Georgia pass out need Medics ASAP like hallucinating and Maddie giving up but seeing the way this episode went down. Yes, a lot of them were cramping up and West kind of had a moment where he was passed out, but they did all finish. So it's kind of hard to say that it was I mean, it was very hard but the fact that they all finished. They all seemed OK in the end. I'm like, okay this just pushed them to their limit. And this was good to see how far that how much the body can do. I don't know. It's I mean you get my Ibiza gave them the food they were obviously watched, you know covering what they need to do. They give them more money every year and they make the challenges harder in theory every year. That's one wasn't more money more money jackpot, then then Cara there wasn't no says they didn't personally Carlin 750 million. Mm. That's what saddest money. So that's what I'm saying. Well, let's do it this way. They have to up their game just to make us watch because well, especially after challenge 33 was awful and the fact that a lot of these are 42 that were in this are different level of competitor than our run-of-the-mill. I was on the real world Challengers, you know, these are Olympic athletes, right? Which just the Harkens back to wow West good job for being able to keep up with them and I think it was horrible and really mean Joe to answer the question, but I'm sure that they were monitoring and giving you know off camera. I'm sure they were had their safety and how much you'll think they slept from day 1 to Day 2 and did they get to sleep? Did he even sleep at the locker the truck there? This is it this is sad that you - it was horrible. That's what they were saying, but great final. I'm very proud of everybody. This was for all them to finish the way they did Ninja had a great season turbo Theo all these I welcome them back. Yeah, great job great season. It's gonna be excited for the next one. So like we preface before we always talk about these people and these challenges as if we can do them and we had a thought. Hey, should we see if we can do this? Yeah, so we put ourselves through insanely grueling hard several mile long marathon, and I won't spoil the details too much but we have our special segment tonight is the AfterBuzz challenge finale. So Jennifer when you're ready, you can roll that clip. Opportunity to win $750,000. We're thinking of doing this for like as a freebie. Like we're just gonna go out tonight and run the streets of LA for free. No getting the news from CJ this morning that David wasn't going to be in the competition today actually made me site because he was my biggest competition for me. Oh popcorn muscles. Nobody knows that I poisoned David's veal parmesan last night didn't realize how far this was really going to be. I can literally walk and keep up with you Jacob. First thing in the morning was entirely ready. For this first one is just gonna be sticking your hand in a box sequence. Watch out for that dog. Yeah. Okay, this was hard and shapes and colors. Not my thing. What do I do guys got this. Well, I do start all over. Is it possible? This is the final heat. Whoever touches the Rock first wins. Are you quitting? Are you quitting? I can't see only two challenges we made. Muscles are coming out. This is all I've ever wanted is what are you doing guys? Why would mr. Jersey most importantly my windows for Paulie? Hey, Dan here can't say I'm not disappointed. I don't like cheaters, but I'm just going to pretend that there was a strong wind that blew me over and that's why I felt I really wanted to finish I gave it my everything but you'll see me again on the next one. Yes. Yes eyes. All I can say is I'm so sore my gosh. Yeah, I'm feeling much better now Dan. Thank you. I'm proud don't drink it has recovered from his Poise and veal parmigiana. Yeah, that's what happens when you got a threat, you know, that's what happened. I hope you guys enjoyed our very real extremely grueling final. Okay, look at all those elements we have to deal with there was babies running around. Yeah. School field trips, there were so many obstacles in our way from reaching that rock that was hard as hell make it legit that little ring toss kind of retard that I may have bought that at Target right before he shot best five dollars ever spent so that hubcap role though. So my mechanic decided to just take off my hubcaps one day when I went in because I had a rattling noise and I show back up his like it was hubcaps and just took them off. So now I'm riding around with no hubcaps and Look like trash but came in handy when you want to do made up chan. Oh, yeah - nice. So that was it was almost as hard as the challenge that they went through. I think it's like what is our live chat. It's you're getting called Georgia right now. That's fun. It was a tribute to Maddie with the legs. Like they said that his place right? And then George of just dropping dead and our CJ. Say TJ. We gotta give a shout-out to show shout out to Luke. This is Pam's boyfriend Luke. We love you took one for the team was in the Brea Tar Pits been posting your average Saturday and really did get woken up and was really drinking his coffee and was told to play the role of and if James the challenges that we're looking for another host. I think Luke can easily step into that spot. Oh, yeah, let us know. I like to see Luke as CJ on the challenge. Yes everyone right to MTV. But yeah that was Fun to do it is crazy what these people put themselves through because no no no kidding that was hard like bringing our things and running around in the morning. How fun I wouldn't want to do it. They like they like your dog Carter. They're reading the dog was cute. That is yeah. Thanks and other ones, so to the viewers the best I thought I liked are like in the house like coming out casually I love reading hair was our tribute to pile of Pam's brain. She's like, okay. This is gonna be my Ops are my checkpoint. She just flips over one of her night stands. Let's get some tape tape some garbage bag to it puts cheese and her dog. It is a janky has box. I'm like Pam. I just I wish I could have the way you think is incredible a tribute to like sticking your hand into like be here faster. Scary Jenna. You should have been dq'd calm down. I think for the Porsche I think for that. Thank you. Dad is the real winner man. That is my middle name. Dan Spira see Dan. It is ending the season with a conspiracy created by himself. Wow conspiracy. No, he should not have one because it was he was trying to distract Everybody by taking off his shirt bam. That's true after yeah many ways. No one else up and down and showing off. Hope you all enjoyed. The shirtless can guess the challenge final AfterBuzz TV style. Yes. We hope you enjoyed it. Hope you enjoyed it. We're probably I don't think I'm gonna have time to get into you or okay slightly news and gossip slightly. Yeah. Well go through some seasoned 34 rumors, right? Yeah Linden has thank you so much for dming me. He's lit on it set me some of the rumor cast for season three or four guys. Haven't seen this in want to go over it a little bit looked like People this is from a reliable source on Vavoom. Our favorite place. Some of the girls are Ashley M is back after a little bit or of leaving an early departure this season. Yeah. Korra's back cam is here. We got faith, Georgia Kaylee is bad. I love Faith. I don't think you're off Tori deal. Not any moral for guys. We have Gus. Wow, Jack. Leroy bananas West Josh is back, which I'm pumped about because this is another good competitor Logan. Interesting that will get ready literally exact from an Ex on the Beach or something. Is he last what's-her-name joke before we leave. Yeah, she'll even Rogan art is not on this cast. So basically same as this season bear is back problematic feel as back Jordan, Paulie. What would it be without Polly man Kyle? Um, Also, you guys know how upset I am for the rumor teaser that Kyle's luscious Rapunzel long locks have now been cut. He look good though. But his God he was growing that thing out just to chop it all off and Josh from Big Brother so we know turbine weight is - I don't see turbo on the list. Can I come I've heard that's not a finalized list. I believe turbos also come back. I've read rumors about that. I don't know why the hell Gus is coming back. What the who cares Gus? For Bama Schiller or bearish or like he can stay over there. I don't know male counterparts exactly like team pretty yeah. The Maddie was Maddie on those. No didn't see Maddie interesting. So excited for that which is already they left like last week or something and what you didn't say West did you and say bananas Wesson bananas? Yeah. I thought it's a banana. Oh you probably did. I just I know what I believe West is coming back to and bananas on there. Yeah. Okay, great. It's didn't reunions gonna be awesome it lit AF. Yeah. We're so cool in part are we is a two parts do we know it's going to I think it's gonna be two parter. They always do that now too - yeah, I mean I flew them to the up to London London. Might as well making it shorter Point milk that you know, nice. I will leave us your comments. Let us know about how you felt about turbo winning congrats to everybody this season big congrats to Turbo great season. Great finale way to go out and I'll let us know. Yeah. Yeah, what did think about our AfterBuzz TV final and how you think we would actually really do we really want in a file. Oh, please kick ass punk. Thanks guys. My name is John of us here. 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It’s final time! Aka TURBO TIME! Just when you think they can’t run anymore, TJ’s like nah, keep going. Connect four is Cara’s kryptonite and Hunter drops like a deer from a one shot kill. The panel competes in a final of their own…. Hosting tonight is Pemal Gross, Daniel Lindgren, David Christopher, and Jenna Bussiere! About The Challenge After Show: The Challenge, a mix between Real World and Road Rules Challenge, featuring alumni from the past shows as the contestants compete for a cash prize, is such an insane show, we HAVE to talk about it! That's why we have THE CHALLENGE AFTER SHOW! Tune in here for reviews, recaps and in-depth discussions of the latest episodes, as well as the insider scoop from cast and crew members on the show as we go crazy. It's going to get bananas because there's basically a different guest each week! About The Challenge:  It's every player for himself in this edition of the long-running reality competition "The Challenge," which for the first time shuns team play and awards a final prize that could exceed $500,000 to one person. The fun begins with 28 cast members -- fan favorites from "The Challenge" joined by contestants from "Big Brother" and stars from MTV UK's "Ex on the Beach" and "Geordie Shore" -- in Spain looking to settle personal vendettas. In a new twist, players who survive grueling elimination rounds are awarded "Grenades," allowing them a chance to get even with anyone in the house with whom they may have a beef. It adds up to a competition spiced with heightened drama, doubt and deception. ---   This episode is sponsored by  · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. 