Hey everyone, this Jason overcome Redman and I cannot tell you how blessed and fortunate. I am to have been born and live here in the United States of America the land of freedom and opportunity and getting out there and achieving the American dream and there is no organization. There is no foundational principle out there greater than the financial industry that helps drive the economy of the United States of America and I am proud proud proud to say that this episode of the overcoming conquer show is sponsored by Sir. Security Traders Association, which is a nonprofit organization comprised of 24 Affiliates across the USA in Canada taking care of individuals who work in the financial industry and I got to tell you not everybody out there is living in these Ivory Towers. You got people all around you moms dads soccer moms single moms single dads who work in the financial industry and who are grinding away achieving the American dream taking care of their families making To live in right across Middle America and oftentimes they lose their jobs. They're looking for resources. They're looking how to be better within their industry and security Traders Association is focused on that and forming their members of Industry Trends providing them unique networking opportunities and contributing to Career Development and productivity. They are committed to promoting Goodwill and fostering high standards of Integrity across the organization. So it is our great honor that security Traders Association is the presenting sponsor of this episode of the overcome at conkers show. Everybody wants to be on top of the problem nowadays is people want to get dropped off at the top of the hill is that I overcome mindset that makes all the difference either way. We're taught is given a call to scratch gonna bite you're gonna dig you're going to do whatever it takes to get to the top of that mountain that unequivocally is how I have managed to keep myself. Moving forward and finding success to see one Mission and Conquer show and welcome back to the overcoming conquers show man. We are rolling with the new show do people are loving it man. I've had so many people reach out to me and say dude. I love what you guys have done with the show. Whoo. That's all I got is. Whoo, it's insane. Whoa. Whoa, wait a minute. Where's the boom? I've got people men women calling me saying gray your podcast is so awesome. Thank you so much for what you do? I haven't heard a word about you with this but I have been getting lots of just that's so weird. It's been the same for me. They're like Jay. Can you step back Ray is so good. That's actually you know, what? Nobody has actually said that to me, but that's okay. I just want to help you out. I want to make you feel good about yourself. That's why I'm here. How do you look the mirror is what I tell you what what what your producer gets you a mirror so you can look at yourself. Holy shit. It's you know, I got to tell you you've been better. Since this happened and we've been on some of the biggest podcast there or and no one there like our producer would never do that. So big special thanks and out and rock your producer for being has amazing and awesome as he is. All right. So are you know, we got some we had some great videos that are coming up. We've had some fun and it's only gonna get better you guys stand by because some of these videos that are coming are pretty hysterical the one that's coming out people are going to see the true you and the true me will get them give them a little sneak peek of what's to come. Yes, so true. So all right. Well, this is going to be an amazing show today. We are going to be talking about as we often do those life ambushes that come along and those those unexpected critical moments that just knock you off your feet and how individuals can overcome and conquer them. So today we're going to talk about a big one. One of our guests is a longtime friend of mine very influential businessman, and we're going to be talking about those setbacks. Acts that come along in your life and it's about it's about getting fired. Yeah, it's something that I think too many people were too familiar with but I think they don't know what to do when that happens the effects that it causes. So I think this is going to be a great episode 2. Just how can Ambush. Yeah, that's like fucking Ambush knocks you off your feet. You're overwhelmed. So yeah, man, we're going to jump right into it today, and I just want to talk to you a little bit about the group. That is the sponsor for today's show and also the man the myth the legend himself security Traders Association is a Grassroots organization that's comprised of 24 Affiliates in the United States and Canada. Hey, hey, and they are affectionately known as STA and they serve amazing individuals that are employed across the financial services by keeping them informed about industry Trends and providing. Awesome networking opportunities which help them with Career Development and productivity. Yes, and one of the other things they help them with is a unique program the star program when the unexpected comes along because obviously many of you have seen over the years. We have had the rise in ball always always, you know, there's no more volatile industry in the world than the financial industry and in line with that frequently individuals in the financial industry get laid off they get fired and then they're scrambling to figure out where do I go from? Come here. Yep. So with us is my longtime friend the chairman and president of security Traders Association. Mr. Jim toes Jim is not only devastatingly handsome. He has not only charismatic. He is not only the picture of Awesomeness. He also maintains all of stas relationship with us regulators and Congressional policy makers. He joined SDA in 2011 and I ordered that this is where he brings a wealth of knowledge and experience in this Arena. He was the managing director of Bank of America Merrill Lynch for 18 years and he has over 500 years experience in the Securities industry to welcome to the show Jim Methuselah toes 500 years. Well that that's the most incredible intro I've ever gotten so I am known for my big entrance Jim. And I don't have followed it up. So that thanks so much for having us on the show today. Yeah, welcome to the all become a conqueror Chef Lee presided to have you on this is really a big topic. I mean because there's so many people out there that listen to the show and they're looking for they're looking for that guidance from yeah from the conquer and overcome their looking to be able to get off the X. I just used your thing. Boom. Boom. Thank you and that you know, and you know why this is such a big show for me. This actually happened to me a few years ago. I was let go from a job. I was working with Bob Pittman founder of MTV and James Heckman for Rivals and they had funding cuts and I made it down. The company was from 200 down to I made like the last 40 and you knew it was coming, you know you at least I knew it was coming some people didn't but the emotional trauma that it costs, you know, because it just causes that Whirlwind of just that domino effect of I hate to use this term, but it just never Negativity and shit because it's like, oh my God. What am I going to do? I've got a family to feed. I've got this this and this how many people I did go into a state of depression. Luckily, you know, I surround myself with individuals that helped me get off my ass. I've spoke to Jason about it picked him up like a baby like an infant like a 210 gallon baby. I got him a pacifier and I said we're going to get through this but that's why this is such a Hot Topic because it can happen to anybody whether you're the top of your game, you know, I was making about 200k to making nothing it was like pretty much just getting punched Square in the fucking face pardon my language but it hurt but you know, I adapted overcome I conquered and here I am today with I might wear with it's like I'm mr. Roarke and this is tattoo and we're here for Fantasy Island and we're making it we playin deeply you know, I lost so I was fired from a job. Not quite. Is devastating obviously went a little further in my career. I almost got fired from my Navy career. Obviously many of you know that story but I got fired from a coffee. I was 16 years old and I was a barista in a coffee shop now wasn't the largest coffee shop out there. I'm not going to tell you what coffee shop it was because I'm not going to plug this coffee shop, but they're still out there and I worked in the mall in Boca Raton, Florida and why I got fired is because I flirted with all the women I kept flirting with My manager kept telling me stop flirting with the women you're wasting time just fix the damn coffee. I'm like, yeah Roger that and no I couldn't do it in finally one day me until I was long. I'm flirting away trying to pick somebody up and she promptly gave me the Donald Trump. You're fired. No, it's funny. I think Jason and I'm sorry sir for 20 years and whenever I look at them, I always I always go back to buzz and now You got a grande y Chuckles. Okay. Yeah, I'm a man of many talents. I'm a Renaissance. Oh, oh Christ, you're gonna move on. Please really completely different visual adjacent. Oh, yeah fired twice man. I got fired from Merrill. They hired me back and I guess they like fire me so much. They fired me a second time for use later sticker do it do it twice do it, right? And that's such a common thing you guys industry. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's to comment. But listen listen, these are going to talk about today it is and with obviously we're talking about, you know job loss and trying to help people, you know get recover as quickly as healthy as possible. But you know, that's this isn't as you just take you late. This isn't unique to financial services, but it's happening everywhere technology is pretty highly disruptive type stuff, you know the days of getting out of college and work in 20 years at IBM and retire in those days are gone, right? So, you know, this is just it's happening in financial Straits happening every so that's one of the reasons why it would really happen to be on it today because the message that you have Those you know goes beyond just Financial Services. Yeah, exactly. There's no doubt about it. So let's jump into the show. So obviously with every every single show we've ever had we have the word of the day and today is no different. It's it's pretty critical word. It aligns directly with exactly what the show represents. So instructor care. Yes. You do me the honor. Yes Lieutenant reiben. Okay, the word of the day is perseverance. And obviously resonates hopefully with everyone perseverance is doing something despite difficulty or delay in achieving success now. Mr. Jim. That is the Webster's Dictionary of the word perseverance. What is your definition of the word perseverance what you got sir? Yeah. I'm you know some when when for for our members and really brought it anyone in this kind of going through this type of experience. I think it was the word delay that's in the Nishan because it's often you doing so much work trying to get your act together kind of go on interviews trying to set up meetings and you go on so many that's beings and the actual outcome is that you get a lot of objections and there's a huge dilemma. Sometimes people have to work for it's not uncommon people be out of work 10 months a year and a half before they do land someplace and and that delayed piece was really the reasons why we chose to work for for today. I love it. I mean Were the resonate it should resonate with anybody I was listening to oh, it was the team never quit podcast. I was listening to that the other day and one of the guys that was on there was talking about his uncle was telling him his uncle who was a decorated World War Two veteran whenever anything went wrong or things were hard. It was one of their listeners that wrote in and his I'm sorry grandfather's grandfather was a decorated World War Two veteran whenever things will get hard is Uncle would say, yep. It's going to be Hard when it gets hard, go talk to Percy. He's like what the hell does that mean? Who's Percy? And finally he listened this about three or four times and he asked his grandfather grandfather who's Percy and his grandfather said perseverance on perseverance so know where the hell you're going. But we've got to everybody's got to dig deep and bring that up. So so Jim before we get into perseverance, I kind of had this mindset that the two different mindsets. I got to tell you so one I think there's a lot of Americans out there who think that Wall Street anybody who works on Wall Street anybody that works in the financial industry is just this fat cat rich person who's sitting in their Ivory Tower and everything's perfect and they have all the money and they never think about anything. Nobody else. I mean that is a picture you will see a lot across America and and so you can you know, and you and I are long time friends and I know that describes you to it. I mean, I'm sorry. I know that that is not and then the other the other one is I would I would think that people that work in the industry are incredibly resilient and some people I've met in the industry. They they Think they're incredibly resilient so resilient, I got to tell you my story of this very high level high high high level individual that worked in the industry that I met at a fancy, you know, pinky up dinner fundraiser dinner. I start talking to this guy and and you know, we have small chat for a few minutes and he finds out I was a seal and he looks me dead in the eye and he goes You know, oh God what I do in my industry, it's really no different than what you do in the SEAL Teams. Yes, there's no doubt in my mind. He's like, there's no doubt in my mind. I would have been an amazing. She'll he said because you know the level of risk the level of Courage that I need to do what I do the level of stress I deal with it's no different from what you guys do. And I said, honestly I sat there and I wanted to bust out laughing but I Tell this guy was dead serious lucky I wasn't there. So so Jim my question is if everybody in the industry has that mindset. Why do we need perseverance? Well, they don't have I mean listen I heard there's a lot of first off when we encounter a lot of what you just talked about, you know, and we have a saying in our industry know if I had a dollar in an hour, I would I spend it right when you try and when you got a lot of projects you trying to get done you trying to get a sense from your boss how to prioritize it a good question. You always ask is like if I had an hour and dollar how much time I spend and how much money are we spending on this projects kind of get an idea we encounter that a lot and I got to tell you I don't spend like we Especially down in DC, you know with the politicians down there. They lost. They love kicking us. Like if you're not right face it I got to tell you. I don't I don't spend one minute and I don't spend a penny because you're not going to change the perception that you're not going to change that person's perception of your they already have it. It's ingrained. I've had the time and the effort working with the people who are in the industry, you know, who are just trying to do the job right? Adam said that listen, you know, there are a lot, you know, they're all There are tens of thousands of people who work in the financial services industry then I told Jamie Diamond, they're not all Bernie Madoff there. So many people here are just trying to find to get the job done, you know, their their soccer moms. They were, you know lacrosse coach dads and so on trying to do a job trying to do it right so much already. The street is built on trust as soon as trust leaves the equation things go right down the drain. So so there's a lot of good things going on in this tree is a lot of good people in it and attracts a lot of stuff. People but listen, you know, yeah, we get it we understand reputation that we have out there. A lot of it is our own fault. Not just through the action of high people in high visible positions even people like the one that you face on a one-off and a cocktail party. Where just wanted to use one of your Expressions Jason happen heard one of my peers kind of talk to a veteran like that to use one of your Expressions. I would have choked him out. Yeah so I can write that about that. That would be a significant amount of money to the event that I was at. Yeah, so what you know, so on I like the guy who founded in the early days to fight in World War Two when he came back and started to grow that way. Our veterans all over the place we have. I mean, we always felt safe. Even when I was there that if we had if war broke out between Bolton Saxby would definitely win. We had more guys from I can't watch that war. Oh, yeah. We definitely would have we would have won we would have definitely taken over at all downtown. But you know, listen a lot of military folks work on Financial Services is not an easy transition from military folks going in it is not easy, you know there because obviously the coming in with a lot of use Experience they've had some pussy the driver graduated from one of the academies where they come in and they have a seven-year career or they got dad'll a title, you know of a rank the rank, excuse me coming in and having to compete with you know, younger probes. It's not an easy transition, but it's we just were very happy to have them at I love it. So I got a question for you. I don't why I feel compelled to say mr. Jim to you. I just you kind of give me that that whole no, it's good. But I like to take I like to do a rewind so Things that really I think resonate with the audience's that defining moment. So like for me the defining moment when I created the Cocker mindset, what was the defining moment? And can you remember when you said I am going to start this because you know it was it when you first got fired was it someone that you know or love got fired? I mean, that's a great question. Thank you. Can you get a lot of stuff now? I think where it started for us. So we have like, you know, we have a really big. Tribution list, right? We got around 85,000 folks on the distribution list and what we found what we saw is around four or five years ago that you know, you know, you know, you do these emails so you get like a bounce rate. You know, how many males kick back because email address doesn't work and and what we were seeing at the time we had around 20 thousand folks on the list. What we were seeing was that between you know, January 1st and March 31st at first quarter of the year what that that's usually when a lot of these we hope you call him Rick. Suction and forces when they occur, I would bounce rates on that 20,000 distribution list. We're going up dramatically, you know an additional 2,000 2,500. So when you see like, you know these bounce rates of 2006 having been in the industry haven't been let go twice in my career having to know what it's like to have to go home and tell her she said that hey guess what I lost my job again, you know, you kind of understand, you know, the human toll of what that was you think about else not all Being like but that was really the defining moment. When those bounce rate started seeing in and happened like again like again year after year that first quarter of the year 2000 4000 bounces that you didn't have the last quarter, you know what the result of people getting like? Oh, you know and that's one of the things that I love and that's why I definitely you and I we become friends over the years and when you reached out to me and said, hey, we'd love to do an episode of the show to talk about this, you know at the highest level the greatest people out there understand. You know taking care of yourself and your family is great. But obviously where you get the most value in this life is your ability to give back and help others. I know both Ray and I are being mentored by a businessman bedros keuilian and bedrooms always talks about that. It's always about being grateful for what you have and how you can provide value to somebody else and I think that's what's so amazing about what sta is doing. You guys looked at, you know. Hey, not everybody is that fat cat, you know Ivory Tower Our guy so many people in the financial industry like you talked about their the average everyday American that are trying to take care of themselves yet. They're riding the waves or the financial industry and you guys created an organization to help them and I think that's awesome. And you guys now have taken it a step further with this new initiative specifically to help individuals that have been let go from their jobs, which just like you said can be anybody across the country. So tell me a little bit about that initiative Jim. And also what Ray and I can do to help highlight this and also how we can provide guidance and and some of our Insight on overcoming adversity and conquering and thank you doing these, you know helping people shape their path forward. Yah mule, so I mean when we looked at when we looked at the you know at the whole topic of job loss be kind of broke it down into like three stages, right? It's or stage, you know are the things that we can kind of be doing in that area helping people. Just raise the awareness. Like listen, you may think you know, you may think you're a rock star but there's it. But if you choose this career path, there's a good chance that over the course of your 20 or 30-year career that you're going to be let go and you need to be you know, there are things you can be doing beforehand help you prepare for that making people realize that no matter how good you think you are you can you know losing your job is is often not the incompetence of you it's tends to tends to be sometimes the incompetence of somebody upstairs before fact. Don't raise awareness that this can happen to you and that there are things you can do before hand to kind of help that prepare in case it does happen the second he's obviously is like that at the moment. It happens. You just got called in you got you got the HR person. You got a number, you know, you got a package going in front of you. You went back to the desk. You put your belongings in the desk in a box. Now you're hanging out in the lobby of the building and that's really the area that we're kind of hoping for you, you know where you and Ray can kind of help. But this at is that first 48 hours for lack of a better term that first was the first few days because what we find here is that people in Orange for you got it from that from that punch in the face. You gotta recover quickly. You got to recover quickly time is of the essence when you've lost your job. Unfortunately, one of the best things about our ministry is out of sight out of mind. Yeah, I agree all people will people will bring you in anyone that you know in the industry when Just when you get let go they will date you call them up. They'll bring in and when you get in there, you got to go in there not just like with your you know, your you know, your shoulder shrunk over or whatever. You got a man with a good mindset. You got to you got to go through the recovery quickly and healthy and so you can kind of get out and that's kind of where we needed to help from you for us. We can do it we can do the before and we can do the after the networking events will be provide, you know getting people into the proact. Ciao, you know paying for tickets paying for you know hotel rooms, like will take care of the will take care of the bookends. But really we're we're kind of help if you guys is this the kind of help with that Banks. I just got punched in the face. I lost my job. And how do I you know, what should I be feeling? How should I respond to these feelings? What can I be doing? I want to go back for one second Jim because I that was an awesome point. So you were saying that one of the things that's TA in this new star program does is you can help with Logistics? To get them back out there for interviews and things like that. Oh, yeah the networking events. We have a network. So those 20 of those 20th police did their events constant going on around the country while biggest one is going to be coming up in DC and and be you know, listen, when is that sir? It was October 2 3 4 in DC and we've always people have always done this right our industry like, you know, someone if someone is out of work and they call up someone having an event and say hey, I'm out of work and I come Well, it's not a person is going to say yes. Alright, I hope to do if someone's doing an event and the thinking about Hey, listen, maybe we should be thinking about 10 folks read a work a anybody know anyone right but with this effort goes is just more. It's more of an Outreach is more proactive. It's glass and something out there, you know, you know trying to get some names and let making people more aware of what's going on on the networking events are really important in the really important now, I love it and I tell you Where I see this going and because believe me when I got like a my wife and I actually knew it was coming but true story when when they actually let me go is up in New York. I was mr. Pittman's office. I stayed in New York for a day and a half barely had any Communications which Russia because even though I knew it was coming. I just I literally felt like someone took my manhood from me. I felt helpless and like luckily. I didn't go to the bar. I didn't do that. But I tell you I was you know, I used back in our day. We used to drink a lot. I was really contemplating doing some going back to some of my old ways with some stupid shit and what I love about what you're doing is is what I would love to do is, you know, get to these these events that you're doing get up on stage and tell people one you're not alone to what I think makes it. So so good is when they see people who were doing pretty good for yourself. I have to say that but you know guys, listen I've been on the top. I've been on the bottom. Guess what I dug my way back up to the top again and so can you especially with People like you giving them the resources that you need because I'm gonna tell you this right now. Mr. Jim fucking nobody. I know I cuss nobody helped me do anything. I mean, I was literally in tears in a hotel room and I'm not embarrassed to say thinking holy shit. What am I going to do? Because this is like because my boss sighs. Let me go like a couple weeks before Christmas. That's that's great, you know on top of everything but I just said, you know what I've been through worse. I can do this and I had the support of my My family, but some people don't have support from anyone and that's what it's so great. I mean you are the American Icon. What I think is, you know, the boss man trying to help people who need help. I love it. I love what you're doing and it's such a you know, because often times in life and especially when life ambushes occur, you know, I talked about how people one denial is usually the first thing that occurs we don't want to admit this situation is happening because it's uncomfortable. It sucks. It's People were thinking about the future this uncertain future. So like Ray said so many people start to self-medicate when something like this happens. You know why I'm going to bury my sorrows. I'm going to go to the bar or I'm going to do other unhealthy behaviors just so I don't have to deal with this right now. The second thing is avoidance. They don't want to tell their spouse. They don't want to tell their friends oftentimes a mob scene it where people that have lost their job. They still get up in the morning and act like they're going to work with their spouse because they don't want to admit to their spouse. They lost their job. Hoping that they can find another job. In the meantime. I've heard of this before. Yeah or four months exactly until like they've had Savings in the wife just didn't know I've had there's nothing less crazy and what you guys are doing is so awesome because it's so you know, you need to be getting out there networking. You need to be getting out there and getting your name out, but oftentimes you don't have the money you're so afraid of dwindling your resource. It's like wow, there's a big opportunity at an event in Washington D.C. Per se and maybe they live in New York and you're like, man. Just I can't afford a hotel. I can't you know, I can't afford even to drive there would be too much for me and I don't want to sleep in my car. I mean that is a huge huge thing for you guys to provide that crazy man. So when I when I got when I gotta let go the first time I did have a heads-up on at around two weeks heads up but nothing can really prepare you for when you go through it right until you go through it the second time. I didn't see a comment. The second of recovery the second time. I'm not making this up. I was in the lobby already on the phone making making calls. Like I just it was you know you that's what I'm talking about. Like even though this even though the first time I had like a two weeks heads up like tozi. This is going to happen. This is going down, you know try to get some of your things together, you know, blah blah blah, even though I had that two week window I did I took it took me a while to recover me and you got to go through the whole thing of You know you find out that you got let go but Johnny didn't white, you know, what happened Johnny kept his job and I didn't and then you know, the embarrassment party got to start telling people it's but you got to you got to go through it, you know, you got to do it. I think the second time why do we have to recover so quickly was real it or not? I let myself feel bad. Like I let myself feel bad for like 24 or 48 hours and said, you know, okay. I'm going to feel really bad about this and I want to wake up on Thursday morning and I got a I'm going forward, you know, that's that's mindset 101 right there. You can either let it again. I'm going to I'm not going to just try to use my thing Overcomer, you know, it can overcome you it can start to use yours and that that term or you know, or you can conquer it and this is the thing like I used to do is I used to focus too much and Americans are guilty of this we focus too much on the setbacks and we're not focusing on The Comebacks. Yeah the future The Comebacks that's so that's Tell people because I've had some few people few people that have lost their jobs and it wasn't their fault. It was due to things that were out of their realm and I said guys listen, it's mindset. You are focusing on the wrong thing. You're focusing on the now and what happened you need to start thinking and focusing on that that come back, you know, everything my wife says this and I cannot stand it. She says everything happens for a reason and until about a year ago when I met bade Roos and we started doing this when she used to do that. I throw my hands up in the air and go you know, what? Not to her face because she kill me you're full of shit woman. Hope edit that out Ryan, but I've come to the realization. I've come to the realization that she's right. You know, I have been I got let go from that job and it was a great job, but I've done better since then, you know, I've met more contact since then Jason I run in the podcast we're reaching out to people and the message that I love that you're saying is a stop focusing on the setback. Okay. This is a setback in life. It's not you know. Let this lead to depression drugs suicide got divorce instead, you know regroup refocus re-attack, right analyze assess execute. We talked about that the a step process in a kill house situation. This is a battle and that's all you're doing. You have to analyze assess and execute success and Perfection. You're on the X in that moment. I mean that's what's happened. You have sustained a life Ambush. I mean it's defined as a life Ambush, which is an unexpected event that totally changes. Your path and you know physical mental or emotional scars that's definitely going to leave and in this case Financial scars. We can throw that in there and you know, but so many people in these life ambushes, they hunker down they focus on the pain they focus on oh why me like Jim you talked about you know, why did Billy wise Billy still here? And I and I got let go, you know, we were the same it none of that matters. I got to tell you one of the biggest things you need to understand. Any kind of Life Ambush and specifically this situation the Y and and placing blame on other people whether it's your boss people around you angry. None of that will fix the situation. None of it. As a matter of fact, it is a wasted emotion. You are wasting time and time is critical now the like you said Jim there is a little bit of a grieving process. I love what you talked about that you took, you know, basically 36 to 48 Hours instead. I'm going to feel sorry for myself for about You know this amount of time and then I'm getting off the X and I'm going and an ambush is no different. I mean we get in an enemy Ambush, you know, you get hit you're overwhelmed potential you have teammates or friends that are injured, but you do not have time to sit there and feel sorry for yourself or feel sorry for your teammates. What you've got to do is look forward persevere persevere. There it is. Yeah. Look at the producer I went in. Yeah, so yeah, but so many people are tied to This is one of the big things and I was guilty of this. Also. We are taught our identity gets so closely tied to what we do for a living. I watch it with law enforcement. I watch it with police definitely in the military and even in any industry if you've been in a long time and you've been cess successful at it, you know, you are that you are a Wall Street broker you are a financial advisor. You are in our case a Navy SEAL. So when I almost got myself kicked out of the SEAL Teams, my identity was so closely. Wrapped around wearing that trident that I contemplated killing myself because I had convinced myself. It was the end but one of the biggest things you need to understand when something catastrophic like that happens is so often it becomes a launch point for A New Path a new beginning and as long as you can get off the X and look to the Future and that's what people need to understand. They're out there if you lost your job and you think you're so tightly tightly chained to whatever. Robber industry you have that's not you. You are the composite of everything that makes you who you are your leadership your experience your abilities. That is what's going to get you another job get off the X and go find that new job man. Hey, this is Ray cash care and this episode of the overcoming conquer show has been sponsored by security Traders dot-org star will leverage its established network using their resources and values to raise awareness on the needs of these individuals while providing useful resources services. has Some of the greatest advice my grandfather gave me before he died as he says if you're not dead you're alive and I didn't understand what that meant. And literally, you know, he just never told me until I realized that unless you're six feet under it's a fight and we're in it, you know, never give up and that doesn't matter if you're a Navy SEAL if you're a businessman if you're a stay-at-home mom get up and F and fight, you know shell-shocked even when we I've been rocketed before I boy. I know you've been you know, I'm sure you have to it doesn't matter what that income. Fire is when you get rocked, you know, you took a little you got luckily you had 24 to 48 hours sometimes in the real world, depending on what's Happening. You don't have that kind of time. You got it. You gotta you know, I've got fillings knocked out if you gotta get up and you gotta get going and that's what I love and that's why I'm so interested to hear more about this event that you have in October, which is right around the corner. Yeah, we can you talk to us about that. Oh, yeah. I mean the event the event is we just had our and actually actually They spoke at it a couple times right spoke out at once and you doing the wounded we're at the time. Yeah, absolutely guess my so I Miss Annie of the event the event is is listen. I don't want I personally think it's the best conference in our industry, but that's you know, I'm not exactly impartial on that because it is this is the best podcast. Yeah then because it is in the world, you know, but listen, you know, like what's the thing that the strength of the organization here is the City in in Juneau geography right, you know, we're in a lot of cities in Chicago San Fran up in Canada, but there's also diversity in the business model that of the firm's who attend the event right? So most most trade associations. They tend to be like, you know permit Association for you know, the Flower Company, you know or an association for a particular thing. This is and when you look within the financial services industry, you have exchanges broker-dealers vendors. Customer types of all kind and they do come together to kind of just talk about what's going on in the market structure what's going on, you know in in ETS versus options versus Equity. So provides a really great networking opportunity for you to if you had a work to meet people who are in your industry, whether it's you know particular area or to give you an opportunity to meet other people in other areas that are still within that Financial Services industry world that they can meet and it also is a great educational opportunity. No, you don't you talked about, you know, we talked about no one no one helped you write staying in touch with information is really important. When you're in this when you're in this window, especially if it goes on for six to you know, an extended period of time like, you know, staying in staying in tune on what companies are growing which ones are closing down and movement of people, you know, it's really important and that's one of the areas that we're looking to obviously address at the kind of when you're out of work. You're going to get an email from Saying hey, sorry to hear about you know, what happened. Listen, here's the package. Here's a list of things you can kind of sign up for free to be able to kind of secure for you. You can kind of stay in touch with what's going on in the industry. And by the way, we got you know, we got 23 tickets for this conference 10 for this one sign up form and and come on in and network. Got it, you know, so Jim I want to touch upon a little bit of a in the military we have Have something called immediate action drill. So we trained for crisis situations. I tell you what, you know Ray and I both are fortunate enough to have work with some of the best Special Operations forces and the US Military and even in the world and I really don't think anyone does a better job than the shield teams and trying to come up with worst-case scenarios and what we immediately react what we immediately take action on when these things happen and I try and tell people they need to do the same thing in life. There are three critical Things that you need to implement to be ready for these unexpected life Ambush crisis moments in your life. Number one is an overcome mindset of conquer mindset to have that perseverance to have this mindset right from the beginning. It doesn't matter what happens. I'm going to drive forward. I'm not going to focus on the negativity. I'm going to focus on the positivity number two is training and preparation. So you guys are trying to provide that and it's just thinking of head of you know, God forbid. I lost my job or God forbid something happened within my family, but what are the steps I would take and then number three is balanced taking care of yourself so that you know, you have some money in savings physically you're taking care of yourself. You got a good relationship. You got a good Network to help you. So so that overcome mindset training and preparation and balance. So Jim if they had those things in place, what do they do? What is their immediate action drill if right now someone is listening to this and and they're like, oh my God, this is the most fortuitous things because I was laid off. What do I do now? What's the process? Yeah. Well, I mean one of them is I think you got to hopefully you have someone in your life as we call them like, you know your first call right and to find that person right is obviously used to reach out and that relationship, you know, you here in career development hear a lot about you know, you got to get a mentor you got to get a sponsor someone to kind of help you with your career within the firm, but I don't think there's enough focus on you know that person outside the firm that relationship that you have. You should first of all, you know in my situation it was kind of bizarre. Like he was my wife's uncle, you know, you would think like I just get like go I told the wife you think okay, you know, who's the first call it was my wife's uncle, you know, it was just he was just that type of person at that, you know, he was close but not too close. He that offers some real practical Sound Advice, you know, you've been walking the shoes himself and had been on the other side. So I think that's the first thing is like, you know, I think that you got to Find like that person, you know could and you know that first person you want to be talking to about you know, talking things through bouncing ideas or not. The person is actually going to give you like definitive advice. I call you got to call up Joe Blow. Are you retiring? There's someone you can kind of talk to and get information somewhere to kind of keep you from, you know from walking off the edge on I love it. You know what I love two things. I'm gonna I'm gonna hit you up with a questionnaires. I love your passion. Actually you see Jason and I were like typing on the computer and I literally just wrote I've never done this before. I just wrote I swear to God. I'm going to he wrote. I love you Jason. I said it'll weird it feels a little awkward and he was rubbing my me under the tip not kill. I wrote I wrote I wrote seriously Road, he's good because he's so passionate. I literally wrote that because some people say it and some people mean it does that make sense to you and I love you. And I mean literally I and I think you know, this should be the first call for the financial interest to anybody that's done this in the financial industry. They need to Be contacting you in some way shape or form because I tell you what, I'm getting ready and Jason knows this to switch from one occupation to the next and if it doesn't work out, I mean, I'm not gonna lie to you. I would probably call you because I have a lot of skill sets but my resources could be I mean, even though I have a big Network could be still Limited in the that industry. So I think this is just so fantastic, but I could probably think of People that should have called you in the past and I wish the hell I would have known about this because I think we could have really got some people back on the right track a lot faster. And so, you know, I'm a businessman. I lost my job. How do I contact you? I know I know we do that at the end. But like right now I've lost my job. I'm up in New York City. I'm thinking some horrible things because this is what I actually did when this happened to me. How do I contact you? Jim right now. Well, I'm just a man. I'm on Twitter. You know, Jim toes you can email it said you know, you can email us a test. You know, Jim jatos at security Traders dot-org you can be I mean this is you know, Mom I'm out there. I'm not your mom Amanda the best way to get me obviously is always to Twitter LinkedIn or directly through and you know, but I guess I'm really glad you kind of did you touched on that you really you can bet the sincerity is coming through on this thing, you know in our industry, you know. We get there's so much selling that goes on in our industry man. I mean every someone's always coming in trying to sell you a mousetrap. Yes, and sometimes and when people don't have skin in the game where people don't have some type of real, you know passion or something about whatever it is that they you can smell it. You can just you can tell right away like you're being sold as opposed to like. Wow this guy. I mean, I like what this guy has but he frickin believes in it. Yes woman she Leaves and whatever she's doing here and you got respect because that that does you know, man, I mean, you know, you got a skin in the game. It's going to get to the hustle hustle overcomes a lot of other things that they try to overcome. Yeah, I love it passion passion outweighs a lot of things. I was never the best at anything in the world, you know that you've worked with me for years, but I've always had passion about things that I believed in, you know, Family Fitness finance and Faith are my their my f bombs that I believe in and finance is one of them, but you know you You take away that money that causes like we talked about that domino effect with a lot of things that can cause marriage issues. I mean, there's there's families that I've seen men have lost their jobs their wife have up and left them before they've even had time to recover. I mean that's that's the you know, and as a man, I mean obviously, you know, you have hunter gatherer and ladies. I'm not I know the world has changed, but when you when you lose your job and I'm only speaking for me I felt like my manhood was taken from me. I doubted my abilities. And this is as being a Navy SEAL, you know, I've accomplished a lot. We have accomplished a lot and then all of a sudden it's like holy shit is my wife going to leave me. Am I going to go? You know, I'm walking by a bar wondering if I'm going to go crawl into a bottle. You know, I've had a bad past with some things on my God. Am I going to start doing this this and this and literally it was the mindset of being the CEO and the childhood of our went. Okay, snap the F out of this you've been through worse and we have I got goosebumps right now, and because I know There's a lot of people and I hate to say this that art is mentally strong as us. They just not that this was shits. They build up they have it and that's what I love about what we're doing this message because I would love to come to one of your seminars and just get out there and say listen, you know and tell them I've been here, you know, they're like, wait a minute you've been in TV but in movies, I've also been out of work and wondering where my Nest next paycheck is going to come and wondering if my effing wife is going to leave me and take my kids. From me which she would never do. Thank God love you. And but yeah, I'm not really I'm getting emotional right now because I can remember this this happened in 2013. And I remember right now. I mean like it was yesterday. I can remember how I felt Jim, you know social basically two things. I have to question 1, so how do they become members of your organization? Because obviously it sounds like there's a lot of people There that maybe that life Ambush hasn't come that firing hasn't come but I got news for you people. It could come for anybody. You may think you're the height of your game that you know, there's a merger there's an acquisition something's out there. There's a shift in the market that suddenly, you know, you maybe, you know, king King Kong and in the financial industry in the next thing, you know, you're you know, you're losing your job. So how did they join so they have your reason so proud that, you know as far as like what we're doing here with this. this So so first of all our members, our members are individuals right most trade associations. They tend the relationship tends to be with the company, right? So, you know, I'm a trade Association and my client is Wells Fargo the bank. Okay. So we're different in the sense that we're Wells Fargo is not our client, you know the car, you know, our member or member is you know, Jimmy Jones who make it work for Wells Fargo. Okay, right so it's an Which will tighten these are individual type members. Okay now for something like this, yeah. Guess what like yeah, you know, you become a member of sta. You paid a small members should be pay a membership. Do you get some you know news, you know dedicated newsletters you get discounts on on the conference tickets, but we but for something like this listen, you know, you work in the financial services industry member no member Like you're eligible to be putting your name in to be considered for these conferences. You can sign up for the newsletter is like it's like that that's kind of, you know, when I look into just make this a members-only type of an offering. Yeah big that we want, you know, we just want to, you know, create it, you know play a leadership role in addressing this thing and, you know, try to create a rising tide to get other firms dude similar. So that's amazing. So basically you're saying you don't even have to be a member if you Your job and you're in the financial industry they could reach out to you and your star program will try and help place them and yeah them into the no way in so many ways. We're not going to be we can't be doing job placement, right? We can't do things like job like again. The one thing we like to do is like, you know, what can we do with the resources that we have available to us? Okay, we have like I said a big distribution list, you push out a lot of information Jim Jim. I mean, come on. Give me a break. I mean if you believe if you believe everything you see in the news the well industry has unlimited resources. Yeah, you guys just Yeah, we had a one-out aware of any of any organized efforts like to this extreme going on within within the financial services. You know, like I said before I mean this doesn't mean that people are trying to help each other out, you know, we've all kind of walked in these shoes and someone loses their job and they would call up somebody and you know, like I said, he looking for a ticket to a networking event trying to get on a distribution list of some research reports like that that goes on out there, but but I think you know, we're trying to try to do a couple things with the effort as far as As being a leadership in the industry one is just talking about it taking the stigma about compensation. Everyone's we've all gone through this we've all you know gone through losing our job. It's on the server reflection on your ability who you are as a person. So one is you may want to just be talking about it louder than other people and other associations are talking about it just to kind of get the stigma taken away from it, but we really wanted encourage other organizations, like listen just do something with the resources you have available to you. And I really desperately looking for you to go out and do something, you know crazy, but you know, what do you have laying around? You know, we have laying around the house, but you can kind of do they help these people that are in your industry that are there in between jobs right now. I love it. I got a question for you. And I know you probably don't keep numbers but I am like a statistics nut. I like your average person makes 17,000 decisions a day. But blah how many people do you think you've helped since you started just I mean I don't you know, we could get into a personal story. If you would how many people or get me a story shit. I'd love a story. I mean how many people have you helped roughly and give us a great story of someone that you've helped and how the hell made you feel shit. Yes. Yeah, you know, it's funny because like we always say what a people and in particular members, you know, like they you know, they like facts and they like stories. Those are the two that whenever whenever someone comes and they go and do a presentation at any of our events and they say, okay. Well, what do you want to hear all this? They want to have a couple of facts and they want to hear personal stories. Okay, so that's one thing right? So our members do like you don't I don't have like I don't have like a spreadsheet that says, oh, you know we did, you know last year at last year's DC conference. I know we had you know, we had so many people attend last year right? I know how many were out of work because I just know but I don't you know as far as and some of those people as far as like tracking them after the fact Like okay, where are they now? You know are they somewhere else would be able to find a job and was able to find a job because of that attending the conference that we kind of complim the ticket on we don't have stats around that but I would I can tell you that that we wouldn't be doing this if we didn't have like listen as Traders, we all form a Traders most of us a lot of the stuff that we do we kind of go on Duck, you know, it's gut facts and you know, we think we think that people come to these events. We hear chatter people. Having conversations and they had to work and they get a job. They also they pop up somewhere else, you know for five and you know, I mean, I guess if we had to you know that as question we can find out if it happened at the event, but we know it's there. We know it's we know we know the values there and maybe we should do a better job of tracking it yet. I tell you what though. I mean what you guys are doing I guarantee there's a ton a shit ton of people that are out there right now listen to this. Oh that are in other Industries, you know and they're like damn. I wish I had something on this industry. I lost my job five years ago and it took me, you know six months and I couldn't afford to go to some of the networking event. So I'm really impressive what you what you guys have built where do people go to find out more info Jim give it to us just come right to the website man. Yeah, we'll get listen. So this is this this is coming out in September. So we're going to make the announcement on this at the conference in October. So So they'll be coming out, you know, they'll be on the website security Traders dot-org security Traders dot-org it'll be there and be called the star program. Hopefully by then. We got a logo. I hate, you know, I valongo done by then and we'll have a little more of a business plan put together. But like I said, we feel pretty good as as you know, originally we were thinking about launching this thing in January, but given when we kind of tested when we kind of sent out that newsletter day that I sent you that you know with Denzel Washington just based on that response. We like we got to push this up. We got we got to push this up. We got to be fully ready to go. You know, when that first quarter twenty twenty cups. Wait, you got Denzel Washington involved with this. That's also why I will tell you this and I have actually never said I've never said this on any of our podcast. I haven't yet and I'm being serious here if you ever and I'm a man of my word and I'll tell you he'll jail tell you that if you ever need me to come up and Speak at any of these things. I would be happy to do it on my own dime just to come up there and because I love what you're doing and I wish the hell I would have known about you, even though I did bounce back pretty quickly. Just knowing that I had some sort of. Support element there to help me guide me educate me to what I needed to do with the next steps where because I'm telling you man, when when it happened to me, I was like a deer in the headlights. I was like, holy shit and I knew it was coming for three months. Yeah. I knew it was coming. Just imagine. I mean, I know there are people out there that are just getting their Walking Papers boom. So if you ever need me, I can't speak for Jay. I know he will because he's done it before I would love to come up there and just what you are going to be helping them you're going to because the whole idea with this. Is that is okay such and such firm has layoffs as layoffs on Tuesday. The goal here is that by Wednesday? We have somewhat of a list of the names of the folks who got let go and we have somewhat of a list of their personal emails and that night with Thursday. They are going to get an email from the STA with with the link to this video to the overcome and Conquer show. Kind of cops and by and by the way men somehow when the reasons why we the show is so important isn't just this podcast. It's the ones you guys have done before and on all those other words. So here that that right. So I just got let go on Monday and I got an email. How did this guy even get my personal email and you know with with a link to this thing a letter and then here's a list of some Services you can not stay up here are some news outlets. You can kind of see For that we've been able to secure some six-month complementary types things. You can kind of stay in tune with the marketplace. You can kind of get something that is helping you deal with this first 48 Hours one week of mess that you're going through and then and then something longer term with the networking events. So you aren't you are we help but look, if you want to come up on your own dime, we can do that to hell. Yeah. Yeah, we're will get back off to New York mirror. So All right. We'll listen if for those of you that are out there if you are maybe right now you were in that life Ambush, you have been let go from your job and specifically from the financial industry. I wish I wish that you know SDA had a program for everybody out there. But like Jim said, you know, you know the stuff you see on TV is not true. There's only limited resources and obviously sta as focused on the financial industry and how they can help those individuals. Within that industry. So right now if you were in the financial industry, you have been laid off and you know, you're sitting on the X feeling. Sorry for yourself. This is an amazing organization that can help get you back in the fight back taking care of your family taking care of yourself and really the launch that new beginning to become the best person you can be it is about it is about overcoming it is about conquering it is about the word of the day having that perseverance. So as With every overcoming conquers show. We are going to wrap up with our two minutes of motivation and Jim do you want do you want to start and just talk about what perseverance means you are message to anyone out there where they're at. You've been through it man. You've been laid off twice and then ready not ready and I'll pick it up to wrap up the show now. So I just want to as I just want to thank you for having us today on the show today ma'am honored you guys have created the great young brand with the old. Command & Conquer, you know show and and it's not lost on me that you willingness to put our logo next to yours that that really means a lot to us and we greatly appreciated and again, you know, just thank you for your service to the country and what you done before we even were you doing today? These these things matter, you know, you can sit sometimes it's tough for you don't you know we go out with things and you also not a newsletter that affects thousands of people and sometimes you don't know if you're if you're touching people if you're making it for making a difference. You know you guys are you guys are and I thank you for that. Amen. Amen. You want it? I'll take it guys listen up perseverance where the day listen if you're not dead you're alive hard times you're going to come hard times are going to go hard men and women are going to stay longer though. What does that mean? It means be strong mentally physically emotionally. Alright, even socially focus on those four f-bombs Family Fitness finance and Faith. All right, if you need help, you're not alone. All right, we've all been there even even the people that are the most successful. So that you've seen or you know in life. I promise you have failed and failed and failed, but they have not quit. So do not quit on yourself. And I promise you as long as I have air in my lungs and Jason is running this podcast. We will not quit on you either. I love it man. I was great perseverance. I agree 1,000% with Ray. It's a mindset guys. Those ambushes are coming. So many people they just knock us off our feet. They knocked the wind out of us were struggling to breathe. We're struggling to figure out where to go. But perseverance means exactly that persevere. I'm going to drive forward. I'm going to figure out a way and so often when these things happen, we think it is the end. There's no way we can drive forward. Oh my God, how could this have happened to me? My wife's going to leave me. I'm gonna lose my house. I'm gonna lose whatever stop focusing on the negativity stop focusing on the things that you cannot fix. You've got to look to the Future. It is a new beginning it is going to be hard stopped. Yourself and think that there's going to be this instant solution. It's going to take grinding. It's going to take driving forward. It's going to take perseverance, but that is what's going to launch that new beginning and a huge shout-out to SDA with their star program to help those in the financial industry to forge that to know that they have this resource. So your perseverance a lot of you changing lives one person at a time. I love what you're doing sir. I absolutely love it Jim. Hey, brother. Thanks. Thanks for your friend. Thank you. Thanks for having thanks for being on the overcoming conquer show and just an honor man. So this has been another episode of the overcoming conquer show. I am Jason overcome Redmond, and I'm Ray cash care, and we are out boom. Thanks for listening to the overcome and Conquer show tune in next time and please remember to subscribe on iTunes, please visit overcome and conquer.com. Hey, this is Jason overcome Redmond. And this amazing episode of the overcome and Conquer show has been brought to you by security Traders Association and their Amazing Star program, which is helping individuals from the financial industry that have been let go have the resources. They need to get back out there into the job market making a difference and going forward with their lives. If you're in the financial industry and want to learn more about security Traders Association go to. Purity Traders dot-org once again security Traders dot or Purity Traders dot-org once again security Traders dot or
Almost everyone out there has experienced that unexpected moment where you go to work and unexpectedly get let go. You leave feeling, rejected, and overwhelmed. In this dynamic and fast moving economy people are changing jobs, voluntarily or involuntarily, more than ever. Episode 28 is exactly about this one thing. How do we Overcome and Conquer when we get hit with the “You’re FIRED” bat! Both Jay and Ray talk about moments they have been fired and then interview President and CEO of Security Traders Association, a great non-profit organization focused on helping individuals who work in the financial industry which has one of the highest turnover rates out there. In typical Jay and Ray style we bring the humor as we talk about this serious subject of driving forward after job loss and address the word of the day – RECOVER – How everyone out there can move forward and reinvent themselves after that disheartening moment of receiving a pink slip. Jay and Ray go on to talk with Jim about the great things STA is doing in this area with the resources available to individuals in the finance industry in the hopes that other associations & firms do the something as well with whatever resources are available to them. Learn more about STA and their STAR program at  https://securitytraders.org/ 