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Welcome back for another episode of our Orange is the New Black after show another emotional episode. Yeah. I still don't know how we're dealing with everything but we're here. I'm April listen and joined by my lovely co-host Breanna. Hello and Francesca. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. And lastly. Thank y'all so much for joining us. We have our chat. I'm in the chat right now. So let us know what you thought a friendly reminder to everybody that we have not watched ahead. We are only at the current. Episode 2 episode 5 that we watch so for saying things that don't make sense because you watch the whole season just know we haven't watched it and don't spoil it PLS. No spoilers. Y'all such an emotional episode. Yeah. You think I cried this time. I really did. I was glad I was in the trailer by myself. This time has a tear like trickle down. Oh, yeah, you know, I was this close. Yeah. I was so close like simple things hit me pretty hard, but I was like every episode lately though this season. It's like they keep hitting you with the gut punches. They are just not giving happy situations to our girls at all. And it's like oh my gosh, this is Bleak, right? I keep feeling like we have to get some but I mean, maybe not as we see tonight so much happening. Obviously, we have so much to talk about but y'all tonight be sure to stay tuned because we have our special segment. Also some great news and gossip and we want to talk prediction still even though the whole season has aired. Aired but we have not seen it yet. So we can still predict everything right you guys watching live can laugh at us if we're wrong the right. This is gonna happen. We're probably so wrong, but that's okay. I want to start off with to me or to all of us. Probably number one thing upsetting Maritza obviously being deported. Obviously. I want to talk about the details of it all but shocked that it happened or not shocked that it happened shocked. Yeah. I think I'm This a shark happened. So suddenly I like get chills thinking about it because it's so sad and it's such a real situation for many people and see and seeing it just happened to someone we care about and for doing something that she thought was right and just having this be a consequence and the shot at the end of the episode was so chilling. Yes, but yeah absolutely shocking it was like you guys watch the handmaid's tale. Yeah. I can't focus on her. Her except this was just like wait way so sad. I mean, you know, if you're talking comparisons to handmaid's tale than the show got really dark. That's that's very true. I but I was definitely shocked because you know, they they brought her back for us. They didn't have to do that. And I think I think the turning point was when she had a weakness and she saw everyone else in there having the same in the same boat as her and she decided to share that number. Yeah guards were watching then. I was like, I didn't think she was gonna get deported but I was like, oh this is gonna be just not good. Yeah. I didn't think she would get deported either but like you said, it's a great turning point because it shows how much she's matured. It's like she knew that there was a risk because At first she said don't share it, like don't let anybody know and then eventually she was like a fit I see all these people suffering I want to helm but I thought they would just transfer her somewhere really far like, Texas but to deport her. Her that was a lot. I'm really sad, but see even that like, you know with these inmates we see that they get deported to other places that that's usually like the course of action there. But like this is a totally different system and we hadn't seen it yet. So that's why we hadn't even considered the possibility that she could be sent to a country. She's never lived in before and that's crazy and it just shows you how different completely different track and system these, you know women or people are in when they're in this no-win situation. I mean they talk about it constantly meaning the characters on Show like this can happen at any moment. We never know, you know, obviously we see the situation with Blanco where she's just gone and they have no idea. They're they wander the whole time. It showed a hearing issue. Not with Moritz. I think I'm I'm shocked because it's like she was only there for this. Yeah, you would think that as a show they're going to keep her for longer. So, I mean that's like bringing in the TV to it. So that's not the importance that I think that's actually why I was so So shocked which is totally nothing to do with situation obviously, but also just because it's like so she automatically got put into the situation for trying to help people and I mean she knew better like you can tell in her face. I wish you would have I mean it's happened. So it doesn't matter and it probably would have happened anyway because of her hanging out the number but in the way that she did it. I was like, I know I'm walking right now. Please I need you. And that's why I part of me feels like maybe she noticed them seeing and she didn't care or maybe she was very oblivious. It looked like she was kind of oblivious. Yeah, I think she was just trying to hurry along and give as many people the number as she possibly could yeah, but even when she did it before we see them looking at her I was like, this is just Bad News Bears because everyone's looking and it sucks that she's just trying to help people but it's paying the ultimate price herself and maybe she did it so quickly and in such a manner because she knew ooh, she might change her mind later. And in that moment. She was feeling like no, you know what this is the right thing. I'm just going to do it before I change my mind and I think what's cool. It's like you're right. Should we just got this character back and she's only been here for a handful of episodes and now she's gone and I feel like it just shows you what a good job the writers of these shows of this show dud because like we she was gone and I she's back we cared about her so quickly once again, and then like they got us and even in these few episodes. She's grown so much like she was like, you know judging the girl or the woman sitting in the Through my life, you know giving her the side I like. Oh you just you're making the smell and I know she was judging everyone around her like no, you know what I'm better. I'm a citizen and then she quickly turned into a place of like, oh, I understand and have empathy and from the start of her being in the Detention Center to at the end where she don't want to help she was above them and then she went from like risking her own situation to help them others like how quickly she grew and I feel like that's really cool. Definitely. I just wish she waited until after she met with her lawyer. I'm like, dang you. Couldn't wait just a couple more days or maybe just a day. So I hope it wasn't all in vain because they said once they find out about you guys contacting lawyers. They're going to shut it down. So, can you imagine her doing all of this risking herself getting sent back to Colombia and then they shut down the phones and they can't even make the calls. That's probably exactly what they did because as soon as I see her doing that so I'm sure they went over to everybody and grabbed the paper to see what it was. I mean that's thinking ahead obviously and it doesn't matter ultimately but it's like a you're probably exactly right because they're going to find Out quickly. All they have to do is dial the number. Yeah, see what it is. Exactly. I also at this just came like into my brain. I'm like really we shouldn't be shocked because what was she actually I'm asking this like to educate myself. What would she have actually done? We obviously found out last episode that she was not born in the United States. So what could she have done? Is there anything unique make the case that like, this is the only home she's ever known. She didn't choose to come here. Yeah as a child. I mean, you know, that's a lot of dreamers there in that situation where they were brought here. And so I mean you basically have to find someone that is willing to help you and I don't know the whole legal situation of habit. But I mean there is there's a path hopefully or at least attempt to try to like figure out a way to stay here. Well, we did I mean we saw Blanca in the courtroom, but we didn't even get a chance to see Maritza doing that. So yeah almost like they just skipped a step and we're like you're out so it kind of sucks because we don't really know what happens. Yeah to get her to that point. Um, but I would think the step would be the court hearing which she didn't even get right and that's what they kept saying that sometimes people don't even get them if they've done something whatever or maybe she did and she just didn't know what to say. She didn't notice that oh, I need a few more days to meet with my lawyer. She just thought this is what it is and I can't prove that I was born here. So here I am which is just crazy because the government expects you to know those things like yeah, I wouldn't know that I was born in United's there's no way I would know more and that courtroom scene showed like not only do they They do people not know about it, but maybe they don't want you to know about it. Or maybe it just makes it easier to judge was annoyed at Blanca for you know, something right. He's like, oh you copied her. Well, yeah. I mean if I'm learning something that's going to be advantageous to me in court. Why wouldn't I do this like and he was like, oh well, thanks for wasting our time. It's like well, she didn't ask for this hearing. She was brought here before she got a chance to even talk to a lawyer about this the whole situation was unfair. So it's just it's a terrible system and the show is doing a good job of reflecting what's happening. I mean the last shot with them. The airplane they're all disappearing. I was reading a couple of comments online and it's kind of like this is a group of people that like people just want to forget they want it to ignore them to disappear almost like they're not human and I think that's what that shot at. The end was like they slowly just disappear because we don't want we don't want them anymore. We just want to ignore them and it's really sad it is speak on the block of situation another question to be better better educated about it. So she's in the situation where you know, we know that her green card. I don't know if it's a officially been revoked but it will be or she has to go through all these extra steps. But what her thing is that she's going to wait and try to find a lawyer which she has the code. So maybe she will get one but what happens if someone can't find a lawyer they keep postponing it or are they allowed to eventually just be like no, you gotta go. Well, I don't think most of them don't even know that they had that opportunity to say that yeah, so I think most of them would just but I am Blanca situation would they just keep going until they like saying the same? I doubt that they would be that patient, but I think it will work. Maybe the first time possibly the second time I think by third time third strike you're out. Like if you can't find a lawyer yet. You got to go because the fact that the judge looks at it as you're wasting this Court's time rather than saying you're fighting for your life trying to defend yourself mind you English is not your first language. You have no legal history or educational history. So you have to defend yourself and do it. You have to do so I highly doubt that they would let them keep going. I don't know if this system is meant to be fair, but I would hope that they do continue it extending it because if the reason they're delaying is because she supposed to have a lawyer and she's unable to obtain one because she's in this restrictive situation and that's not on her and so they are still not affording her the right that she supposed to have so I would hope that they keep allowing her the time that it takes to get because again, that's something Beyond her control, but we all see the situation with Marissa and we don't know if she got Whole due process so it's almost like you don't know how much of a fair Shake they're going to give you. I don't think she got the process because remember in that there was a scene when they were talking about they either bring them up take them early in the morning or really late at night. So they're groggy and there's no fight. So it's like they take advantage of that fact that our can't fight back which is so crazy. And then even the scene with I think they gave us her name Rosanna. Maybe I could be totally wrong the lady who goes right before longer and is the one who gives her. The idea to ask for the lawyer. She says, you know flat-out. She's like it's on the government. It's on you to provide the you have the burden of proof. You have to prove that. I'm not an actual citizen not me. So I wonder if like they just eventually have to figure it out meaning like the other side. Yeah. So the eyesight if they just eventually have to be like, okay, she's going to keep postponing. So let's let's do this. Although you can tell that it's just like, you know, they're just going one after the other and it's it's For cold because we know that this is what's happening in real life and it makes it more difficult to watch like literally sometimes watching I find myself just like sitting there like a ball of stress cringing, you know, we take so many things for granted just the opportunity that we have to like be able to sit here and to see this happening every day and they're doing a great job of you know, kind of formulating it to where you understand it. But also like, you know, it is still a television show. But it's just sad and I still can't get over. No baby tears Wacha and Maritza one episode and then she's just like taking away. Whatever. It really bothers me to know how many like how the the lawyer just said. Well, she filled out a document that says she's and I'll sell a citizen of El Salvador and the woman said like I didn't fill out any document. I don't know what he's talking about. If he can't show you that document then I'm throwing that out that doesn't exist and it's so Crazy because in the real world, I wonder how many times lawyers use that tactic Knowing damn. Well, they don't have a document saying that but they know that as an immigrant, they're like, oh shoot. Well, maybe he does have a document. So I guess I just have to take the cell and go back to my country. Right? So it's just crazy how they just take advantage of the entire situation. Well, you know that other Show on Netflix when they see us about the Central Park five, it showed you how like they take advantage of like people who are scared who are vulnerable like I actually had a thought like maybe she did. Signed something but she didn't read it. Or maybe she did it because she was stressed or they threatened her she needed food or you know, it was in a different language or so forth. So it could even be a situation where people sign things that they didn't know what it says and it's not truthful but they're under duress or they're under this stressful situation where they're like, oh, you know, if you sign this you'll get to see your kids. If you sign this, you know, you'll you'll get released. Yeah. I know what's happening. Yeah, people take advantage of people who are scared all the time. Yeah, especially in prison and Ice. Yeah. See in the show some other people, you know, obviously I mentioned Flocka a second ago. They're still in the kitchen doing our thing, which is the whole reason we even are able to you know have Maritza talking to the lawyer in the first place because they're able to get some these. Well Flocka has the Contraband phone and there's just a lot of stuff going on that. I keep getting afraid that everybody's just gonna get screwed but that's neither here nor there. They're doing their stuff to try and help everybody Gloria is you know going out of her way. A to help Blanca and using the phone for her. It's was scaring me and maybe this is me being not maybe this is me being a little selfish, but it was scaring me for Gloria because I'm like, I you're doing the right thing. You're trying to help your friend. But then with these flashbacks last episode with her, I'm just like, oh gosh your please don't get caught and get more time because you have a lot of people counting on you. So it I'm getting nervous for her because she's still trying to do stuff to help Blanca and still trying to find her boyfriend. I guess mmm was just kind of makes me a little nervous but I don't know the rest of the kitchen crew. I mean mainly red is just she's what an order these going Branagh you maybe Francesca to y'all guess that she is there is something mentally going on with her. What do you think? Do you think it's Alzheimer Czar just dementia actually does seem to be that old but that's the thing like her age. That's why because I'm next next episode. I'm going to look up like the difference between dementia and Alzheimer's but I think it's one of the To and as just because of the fact that it's starting really slowly and it's she's aware that there's something off but she is so angry by it and she doesn't want to believe that there's something wrong with her that she rages and takes it out on everybody else, but you can see that Nikki and Gloria are like looking at each other like what is what's wrong with her and even you hear Gloria have a little sympathy and talk to her kind of childlike knowing that you're she's confused. She's a little frightened. So it's it sucks. Cuz I thought the kitchen crew would be our comedic like relief and when you see what's happening with red, it's like dang. I can't even really laugh at this either. I want to laugh at a joke. Nikki says, but then I'm looking at Red looking all sad like, oh my God, they're trying to make it work with like they'll give Nikki a line or two every now and then but then you have like you said right behind her you have Lorna right behind ya dear God even worse, but it's not worse, but Dementia, and Alzheimer's are pretty darn similar when you think about like what happens definitely there are differences, but I think what makes it worse is that you know, we're two episodes ago. It doesn't from what we see. Anyway, didn't seem like she was necessarily noticing anything but to see her looking in the casserole and pouring that whatever that was the Rob pasta wrong, right and it to try to fix it and that wasn't even right and it I mean, obviously we know the kitchen is what has always not will know her family. To the happiest but being in the kitchen makes her very happy. So I think see feeling and seeing herself lose control of that is probably even more difficult than you know, just being in jail and kind of feeling it in that way. I honestly the scene where she realized that she was the one that made the mistake after she's been blaming them all this time that I think besides Maritza that was like one of the hardest for me to watch because you know people that do have Alzheimer's dementia, like sometimes, you know, they go in and out of it and then like Just how sad to know like realize it but also realize that you have no control over it and there's nothing you can do like that just really like yeah get to hit ya really hit me and but I'm like, I'm so thankful. She has her like family because you know, we see Gloria at the end like, oh must have been me then put the salt. Oh my gosh like and she's trying not to make it a big deal. And that's good that she has it. That's it. Yeah, it's someone like red who was always such a like fierce. Mama, bear with you know her girl. She took care of them, you know with Nikki's addiction and with all of them, you know sort of going through really tough times Behind Bars and now, you know, she's at this place and I was still like I didn't catch that early on that. She might be slowly deteriorating. I don't either I thought it was like from the shoe, like maybe she still had like, you know effects dealing from being in solitary for so long and I'm still wondering if that like again, I don't know how you know these deteriorating diseases began and if that was a factor in that at all All but you know, I'm hoping that or I'm pretty sure that the family you that she has built, you know within the prison will be there and help her and you know, it will be sad to see her slowly like descent a little bit more. Yeah, I wonder if because she got a head injury because remember the scar I don't I can't remember how she got it boys. He scalped her but also like, you know the cheer her up a little bit. Yeah. I'm wondering if that could have put a you know, what extra push or like an onset of something in her medical. Hold that caused being that with the shoe and everything that happened with Frida the day that her she was finally supposed to see her kids and her grandchildren. Sorry. I mean that's going to drive anyone and give some crazy stuff and I think that it's definitely, you know, determining factor in making her be in a place where you know, dementia and Alzheimer's can happen, you know, relatively quote-unquote young and sometimes you know if it's in your family or whatever then It can definitely happen any faster, but it's just you know, she's red. She's that you know, very strong woman who's one of the leaders has been throughout the show. So, you know, you would think that they would give us a little bit there, but it doesn't seem like that either but that's okay. Also Jaber chin chat you are wrong for this. You said red and Lorna are a hot mess together worried. I mean We were talking about this last episode when she's like already kind of like always been off. Yeah, unfortunately in the deep end and like it's really sad, she should be in Florida that it's yeah, you said that last episode it's just gonna get worse. She lives in a world of delusion and she's always sort of created fantasy situations and when she got married it was like the one time that like a situation actually came true for her, but I know when her reality does it hit her dream, she will make it up and she will believe it. And take it as far as she can go. Dang that is scary is not have a friend like that that is draining what it is and to think like I know this wrong up so but I'd have to say it like she's posting a baby that doesn't even look like her baby like she literally Googled white black haired bit cute baby or something like that. I was like that baby does not look like yours. It's just sad, I mean the fact that she's making up fake make things. Although they were like really kind of cute like stinky make turtle it. Caputo I was like, oh this poor girl like she's just like doing all that sick doing all the work. Well, she's got some flesh on a plane. That's that's what it is. Like she's in pain and she does not want to deal with that. Right and she's not telling anyone which of course is just going to make it work and everything's going to build up and guess what when she does finally explode like we've seen her do before because that is part of a, you know, we don't know that she has a condition but she clearly had there's definitely something that's, you know, not just I totally yeah, there's something going on in there. Yeah, you have a lot of stuff going on to write for Tessa. Yeah, I was thinking about tater tots and how there's Terrace houses are so delicious and also blueberries. But before we get to those magical blueberries, I just wanted to say thank you guys for making us the ESPN of TV talk and we want to we want you guys to help us to can you continue to grow? So if you're on YouTube right now, make sure you hit the thumbs up and the Subscribe and if Listening on iTunes goes five stars and let us know what you're thinking. We appreciate everyone who's in our chat right now as well no matter what form your you're listening or watching on make sure to leave comments and get involved in our conversation and thanks. Thanks for being part of that. Thank you. Thank you all so much Sal siracusa in chat says it was V who beat up red and season 2, so she's been beat over the head quite a few times on hooli. Remember taste, he's not Mom but taste is Mall. Again Piper Piper again to her. What would I called Blue vowels? Lincoln Piper. Yeah, and she keeps finding new ways. I think they're trying so hard not to make her that way because I think they're just trying to show us another side but it's just not where she's just whining. Well, that's that's all she didn't whining. She's definitely whining but I think they are kind of showing trying to show the little privilege that she feels because really this parole officer is like my favorite. Yeah. I'm in there and humbled her so quick and said, you know you there's people in here that have like four kids. Yeah three jobs and they're doing anything to survive out here and you're too busy thinking about you know, what you want on the inside. Like if you don't reel it in and focus you're gonna end up right back in there and also your peas wrong her brother listen to her brother, but he's know what that's what she gets because Piper knew the right one to pick because Cal is a easy enabler for her. Yeah, and and Piper knows how Try to sweet-talk finesse and give you a compliment and then ask for a favor like she's that girl and she knows how to do it and cal cal is just a dope like he's going to go for anything. Have a good time talking about a snow day girl. You are 30 odd years old with how many responsibilities right now. You have a job handed to you by your dad that you locate threw away because you had a temper tantrum because he got mad at you right if you could get a grip or go back to jail. I want to see pipe and go back to jail. Well, here's the thing with Piper it's like I actually think the show is purposely trying to show someone who doesn't have a grasp of her reality who doesn't see all of the like I think they want her to be annoying because like I'm doing a good job. Yeah, perfect writing because you know time and time again, she's always given the benefit of the doubt. She's always given slack or some sort of benefit and she uses it to her Advantage. But then also she continues to anything that doesn't quite go away. She gives the like little poor dear, you know, like and cry. Like this should be hard. I can't drink alcohol my God. I know I get it. I would want to drink as well honey, but I don't just get out of jail. So I'm gonna have a drink fall on it her it just it just makes no sense. Like I fully we anyone can relate and that's that's the thing like take everybody situation out of it. But like if you're forced to do something because of this as this like that sucks you're working at a job that you don't think it's fun because what at least you have a job it was nice to have a place to live. You have a brother. The other thing I couldn't get over was even before the weed. I was like alcohol appears in your urine as well. So that didn't make sense to me that she was she drank an entire bottle of tequila and was having a bloody mary I didn't end up here. I Googled it because I was like is it I'm pretty sure it does but it's that it can be in your urine for up to 12 hours. So I would like is she just not. Yeah. Well since I do not think about that that's so that's a really good point. Have that so I don't maybe she planned on like doing something and obviously that gets out of your system way faster than you know, any trace of weed would but it to me, I don't know just to see her. It's like I'm happy that the parole officer gave her a shot by going to the what that alcohol classes whatever it is. I think it's actually a Narcotics Anonymous. I think she said narcotics and not Anonymous. Yeah, because she was smoking weed that because that would fall but um, I'm not smoking weed. She ate a blueberry. But I'm happy that she did that because I don't I don't want to go back down the paper Goes to Jail route because yeah been there done that. Um, but I don't know I just feel like she's still going to complain to be honest. And what's worse is that like every time she talks on the phone with Alex she gets so on Alex for like, you know, you have to do everything you can to be safe in there. Don't break any rules. I need you to come out and like Alex can't avoid these situations. Whereas like Piper can and she is like doing the It of what she gets mad at Alex for doing when she has no control over the situation. So it's more infuriating and then it makes me think like if Alex was the one who was out and Piper was the one inside like she would not be this little crumbling mess of a person who just complains about everything. So it's just it's just yeah, it's just like, you know, she's insufferable. Yeah. She's pretty selfish. Yes Alex. We are still having these like with the weird little meetings with McCullough that are very, you know, I want to just throw it out there because flirty Yeah, I was like obviously we know Alex is lesbian. I'm pretty sure McCullough is not I think we've talked about her with and she's forested. Yeah, but I'm like she giving out vibes. Yeah Vibes for sure, but she was like is she said something about what it what's it must be nice to be in a relationship with a woman and then we caught that I was like are you jealous that she flashed that Lacy bra I'm like, okay, like if you're doing that just like stuff stuff that I'm giving to you. I'm going to be like Okay, if you see my bra, but if I'm like if I want you to see my brother Billy, here's the charger like shitting a very pretty bra. It's just like that's not the bra you wear underneath your like prison uniform no, and she goes out of her way to go to the storage unit. Yeah, well t-shirt and my I like blinked for a second when I was watching that same but does she smell some of the clothes? You know, okay. I'm off to look down but I have time to rewind so I was like know what's so funny. I thought smell that. The way she was holding it. I wasn't easy for her to go like but she didn't she didn't I also how does Alex still pay for a storage unit? That's no I think about that. I just want to know because they're like a couple hundred dollars a month. Maybe it's a friends and she thinks something I don't know this you don't need to answer that question exactly what she is giving these phone charges out and that's how we see everybody talking to everybody the other people still dealing Our girl Daya. Oh man having her moments with tasty very very very difficult stuff to watch obviously with everything that's going on with tasty. But Diana is in this mode of I mean, do you think she's okay do you think she's actually willing if tasty gets this information from the Ward, you know sneaks it obviously do you think she's willing to actually give her the stuff to each other's houses. She is Stone Cold now. Now like she even the way she was speaking to her mother which we'll get to you because that was a lot of like she's just like I'm running this place like she is so detached from really caring about anything. She's just like about her and her business and her power now, which is like it's kind of tough to watch with tasty. I was so disappointed because when she went to the Ward's office, I genuinely thought she was being sincere and just to see her, you know reveal her true intentions to die. I was like damn it tasty. Yeah. That was that was that was another really hard scene. I was like, is she joking right now? Like she really went back and said, oh no, I still want it and like you know, she she said what did she say instincts kicked in when she was trying to kill herself and I thought that would be like a wake-up call and it wasn't and that she's like that desperate that she's gonna this whole the whole assistant thing is a whole ruse for her to help Daya so she can get she can hurt herself like that. It's just crazy. I mean I have hopes that like being in a situation like she's in meaning being Ward's assistant and being able to have access Access and interactions with people other than other inmates. I feel like could be good for tasty. I really just don't want to see that actually go there with her because that's just me loving tasty and I'm like, what's up, please please. Let's not go there. I think it will I think it will have a positive influence. Either that you were like, I hate it. Well go there was like I think her being in that situation. I feel like I don't know prediction here. I feel like she's gonna be in a situation that could possibly be Be a good enough information to pass along that would get her what she needs or she could choose to do something else and I'm hoping she makes the right choice. Yeah, I think I think when you're looking at when you're trying to change you have to want it. And so if she doesn't want to change she's not going to release the opportunity to yeah, but I think that seeing that Cindy is getting early release. I think that kind of motivate her either she's going to turn stone cold or she could get Formation about Daya to use against her and see if that could finesse her into getting an appeal or some type of something. I don't know. I don't know how the system works. Yeah, but it would be a smart thing to at least try. I know she doesn't want to be a snitch but it would be something interesting to see. Yeah, I mean tasty definitely would be going against everything she believes in but ultimately it's like I want her, you know, it makes me sad to think that like, I've almost given up on diet at this point is I don't ever want to give give up on her because like there's always a chance but I guess with tasty. I'm just like please do something and not get to that level that she's at but seeing her face when she sees the early release for Sunday, which I mean, I don't know I yeah, I'm I'm really interested to see how where that's going to go what she's going to do with that information. But on Daya really fast it which kind of leads into aleida as well. I was actually happy when she told off me to Mom. Uh-huh. Yes, she's in this place where she's Stone Cold and it made her able to say these things to her. But like her mom literally helped make her this way, you know nature versus nature and nurture and she like laid it to to latest rate. But in this episode you also saw a late as mom who you know, if you thought Elena was not a good mom, you know, you saw an even worse situation where she was essentially pimping out her daughter literally act what happened Carl. Yeah, and I feel like a lady Has such a strong personality, but she does care about her daughter. She just doesn't know how to show it like she cares about Gaia and but you know in that moment, she's really she's insulting her. She's not a nurturer. That's what I mean. She you know firsthand knows what it's like to be, you know, an underage girl having to be with like an older man, and she so desperately wants to protect her daughter from that. But she just like she just does not know how to handle a situation carefully and then she violates parole. Yeah, and now she's in the back of the cop car and just violate. All she just went she went great saying she went ballistic and but we can get it. Like that's your daughter. You see being put in the situation that you know is one of the worst situations that she can be put in but I keep thinking I'm like look what you've shown her as an example. Why would she know to do anything different not blaming it on a late at her daughter's actions are her own but it's like we talked about so many times the cycle of Elena's mom doing this terrible stuff to her. Okay. Maybe a later didn't directly pimp her daughter's out. But like she's got some stuff with Daya. She knew that men did stuff to die at and totally looked over it. I he her ex-husband and ex-boyfriends and whatever but so there's the part of me. That's like when the daughter runs away, you know, when they're in the store shopping. I'm like, of course like you only shown her that, you know men are used for this and this and this so it's almost like what you expect her to think is the right thing to do in this scenario. I might be playing devil Devil's Advocate love devil, but I guess but to me, I honestly don't I never really thought later cared at all. She's multiple times that she hates kids. So that's why I'm like, why does she have so many we know why but um, so honestly her daughter I was kind of I was again with the scene with died. I was happy that her other daughter saw this because her other daughter was already figuring this stuff out. She might not be the best daughter and not do like Like, you know proper and stuff like that TalkBack, isn't that but she sees what's going on and she's aware of it. And you saw she was right there with her boyfriend and her boyfriend said do you want to try some and she was like no. So yes, she was bad for running away and bad for hanging out with us guys older than her but I think she knows better because she's seeing things and I don't think I don't think it has ever cared and the only reason that she flipped out like that as because her daughter was like no and told her F off and she didn't like that. I can I see that I definitely agree. You because that same scene in the store die is real problem was just the age difference. It's not even like respect yourself because she told her daughter, you know do that do that stuff with guys your own age and just like you don't expect your mom to say you can get felt up and touched up but as long as it's not an older guy, right and don't like where is your motherly and still I saw that as like, you know, it's like when people preach abstinence two teenagers, it's like well, no, they're gonna do what they want. So she's being a real Stick Mom. That's how I thought it's like okay, you're going to hook up with boys. That's fine. Just do it with someone. Who's your age. Let me be a devil's advocate right here. When you have children. Are you going to be like you're not supposed to drink but you can drink at my house because I can watch you. I mean perhaps I don't because that's that's the kind of like those things. So it's like you you teach your kids like what they what they should do, but like also have some sort of like realistic expectation on it. And I feel like I do think that it cares about her kids not dying. Later, but I think she has an anger issue. I feel like she's like a little pit bull and you know in relationships and our friendships or her kids relationships like she just she kind of attacks really quickly. Yeah, and I think she attacks because she cares but even when she says like, oh, I don't care about kids. I hate kids. I think it's just her like own defense system. I think she's just a really broken character and she's very broken tough. Then it might Shield her but I do think deep down she cares. And I think she just saw red in that moment. I'd be picking up the statue and whatever because they did a good job with the flashback in kind of equating it to the situation that was happening at the moment and even identical. Yeah, even thinking about the okay. She says, you know go, you know go in the back of the what at McDonald's and drink and if you want but don't do this with older it's because that's what her situation was growing up. It wasn't necessarily with people her age. It was always this young girl. However old she was the time being with significantly older. Are men so she knew she you know, that's like the trigger in her obviously because that's what happened for so long. It sucks to see her in that situation and I just hope that we're not going to see her back in prison with Daya. Yeah, I guess we'll see. I don't know anything else with the episode that we missed before we get into our games and look ready for the game. All right do the game. I'm ready to Eggman and regarding yes. Okay, five quotes for you guys. You guys have to tell me who said it. So our first one is I'm sorry for my friend on the uptake. It takes her two hours to watch 60 Minutes. Oh, it's that one. I don't know way my gosh. I don't know this. Oh my why my bling my love us. It's it's Nicky, Nicky. Day, does that mean she's watching over me? Really? Yeah, I was praying to Beyonce in the set. Oh, yeah. Okay. I know you think you're grown because you've got some short and curlies down there of a voice like that will ruin your life. So hoped you would pick that one because it was my favorite has popped out like a sunshine beam. It's our finger bang anniversary. Oh, that was a yes. So gross. Okay. Here's the last one while you're here joking around with new flavor of the week who knew you were interested caramel. Yeah. Yeah. Okay y'all and now for a little news and gossip for everybody. Okay, this isn't necessarily news and gossip, but we just wanted to point out our lovely Maritza AKA Diane Guerrero wrote a book A couple of years ago about her own struggles and family issues with deportation. The book is called in the country. We love she basically writes about how when she was 14, but if her parents getting deported back to Colombia deported multiple times. Yeah, exactly. And so she is Very similar to what she went through on the show. It's a great read so definitely check it out. If she actually just last year adapted it for children. She changed the name slightly. I'm sorry. I'm drawing a blank but she adapted it for like younger kids so they get my and she's a huge advocate for immigration rights. Yes a nice cover outside. Yeah. Yes. Okay. Let's do some quick predictions. We're going to be filming episodes tomorrow. But what do we got? Okay. My prediction is McCullough's next visit to Alex for the battery chargers. I feel like she's gonna wear that bustiers. She put it in the thing. No, that'll definitely gonna happen. But then what happens after that? Yeah boy nothing. She's for sure. I for sure think she's gonna put a move on Alex I'm swinging. I just don't know what Alex will do but she's for sure gonna cross that line. I agree. I think she well. I think Alex is gonna turn her down and I think we're going to Angry McCullough that mean spiteful. Yeah, that's scary. I think we're going to see red go majorly downhill, which makes me really sad to even think about but I think that's going to happen and I think Daya definitely is she'sshe's just that off at this point. I was kind of scared because I'm wondering if this really is the end of Maritza. It's like she's gone forever. I kind of am afraid that she is I think she is II. Yeah, so I feel like since her story got such a sad and dating ending. I'm really hoping that Blancas has the happy ending as far as like the to you know, ice cases and you know, she has a little bit of information now she's going to get a lawyer and you know, maybe she reunites with Diablo at the end. I don't know but that's what I'm gonna sleaze right now, please one happy ending. Yeah. Well, thank you all so much for watching. We will be covering episode 6 tomorrow definitely. Let us know what you thought because there's so much to talk about y'all can find us everywhere at AfterBuzz TV. You can find me everywhere at April was enhanced you can find me on. Graham at Siam be underscore Cheyenne see hia and any and you can find me on Twitter and Instagram at XOXO Cesc 8 this Leslie, you can find me at let's make that face on Twitter and Instagram. We also want our founder Keven undergaro and me Maria Menounos would like to thank you for tuning in to AfterBuzz TV. 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Hosts April Whisenhant, Francesca Dugan, Lesley Corral and Breanna Chi’anne talk Maritza’s deportation and Blanca’s day in court. Red seems to be getting worse but her kitchen family is supporting her. Taystee gets a job as Ward’s assistant, but we learn that she’s doing it for all the wrong reasons and to get Daya information. A flashback of Aleida’s childhood gives us insight to what she’s gone through with her own mom, but she hasn’t changed her ways enough because she goes ballistic when her daughter brings an older guy around. Join the chat and let us know your thoughts! #oitnb #oitnbfinalseason ABOUT ORANGE IS THE NEW BLACK Orange is the New Black comes from "Weeds" creator Jenji Kohan about a women’s prison drama with comedy that takes no prisoners. Based on the acclaimed memoir of the same name by Piper Kerman, the series is about engaged Brooklynite Piper Chapman, whose decade-old relationship with drug-runner Alex results in her arrest and year-long detention in a federal penitentiary. To pay her debt to society, Piper must trade her comfortable New York life with fiancé Larry, for an orange prison jumpsuit and a baffling prison culture where she is forced to question everything she believes about herself and the world at large. As she struggles to adjust to her new reality, she finds unexpected laughter, tears, conflict and camaraderie amidst an eccentric and outspoken group of inmates. 