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I thought cool deadshot's just not going to be in the movie and I think we did talk about it last week a little bit. So and that was kind of a no-brainer in terms of that character not returning because they did say you moving you Squad a soft reboot of sorts and we talked about how like great The Suicide Squad can be a rotating cast of characters. Yeah. I think it's totally fine. If detron Harley are not in it. Yeah, and then the news came that Idris Elba is currently in talks to replace Will Smith as and Lon Talk about I want to ask you this question too, because the the more years that we do this the more I want to understand this what it means when the news comes out. First of all who's news was at Warner Brothers did release this is from is all would report. Okay, and they have sources but they could but they won't like straight-up Comfort like it's not an official press was no press release. So we're very early on in the process, right but they do have sources right like somebody at Warner Brothers probably putting this out, right? Yeah, and then when the news is they're in talks That means it's pretty much a done deal. Like yeah, what does that mean usually means that that they've had the actor has had a discussion with either the filmmaker okay, or the studio or bow so it could change it could totally change. Okay, but usually when they're in talks usually means that they have come up with some sort of control. They basically come up they've come to the agreement that they want to do the project together and in time now like how much you gonna pay me? Yeah. I know on track now like illegal stuff the gacha gacha gacha. Okay, but interest signed on the line like Yeah, I'm And then I don't know if it's sign but at least from what the report says that that him and James Gunn had a conversation. Yeah, they came to a mutual understanding of what they wanted to do with the character. I guess your dress was James Gunn's First Choice. So is it possible that these talks could fall apart? Absolutely. This is just like the Marvel movies. Yeah, because it's like, you know as much as I love Don Cheadle and I love him as much as I love my cross flow and I love him. There. Was that bummer of the continuity of the yeah of the first of the ridge. I'll actors who played those characters like not being able to come back for sequels. Despite the when you ignore the stuff of like well behind the scenes. Apparently they were difficult to work with and apparently because you can believe that stuff or you cannot like it like you'll never know and that's really not important. What's important is what ended up happening Mark Ruffalo got the role of Bruce Banner Don Cheadle Rhodey and it's like, yeah, it's this right back to that. But at the same time, this is if Edward Norton couldn't do it. They weren't not going to put the Hulk in The Avengers. Right if Terrence Howard if they didn't want to like keep working with him, they were not going to move away from the character of James Rhodes to like another Iron Man supporting character for like a role for Don Cheadle player, whatever just to maintain continuity. Hey, it's me. I'm here. Yeah, let's get over it. Let's let's let's move on. Yeah, this is very interesting because this is a this movie is going to draw a lot of comparisons to Guardians of the Galaxy a lot. Especially your potential at Easton this movie. Yes, but you know obviously on paper there's a lot of similarities even though they're different things to do different things lot of similarities from going from one company to the other do something similar. So like I was thinking about this and I talked I may have talked about it on a on an episode of a collider thing that hasn't come out yet. But here's a little preview is can you imagine if between Guardians of the Galaxy 1 & 2 Chris Pratt couldn't come back. You're right like you gotta recast Star-Lord. Like I'm and I'm not trying to say, you know Will Smith as Deadshot is Star-Lord the Iconic level whatever but I'm just saying like would James Gunn have recast that character or would he would he have been like, okay, we'll wait or will whatever like I think he would recast the character because even though the Guardians of the Galaxy is also a comic book team that has a bunch of different members. I mean into guard James introduced mantis. Yeah nebula was at unofficially officially on the team like, you know, there's entered characters. You can introduce he was going to tell like Peter Quill story that was with the Important thing was so at first we were like, yeah, you can bring another DC character, but the fact that he put the fact that everybody's deciding to just continue forward with Floyd Lawton Deadshot to me. It made me realize I am really excited about this because it's gonna has a specific Floyd Lawton Deadshot story to tell cancer is replace this guy with another character. Right and I like that about what's happening as unfortunate as it is because I really like Will Smith saw him like Across the board in my garage. I thought they were part came in Margot Robbie where the best things about that first movie and I thought that it would be cool too. But you know what else this might be speaking of Marvel. It's getting us used to this. Yeah, right Roadie was the first actor that got us used to there's a new actor playing this role. Let's move on so that where Hulk came around the major the lead character of one of their movies was not Edward Norton, but they're like, hey, you're used to it by now Mark Ruffalo, like there might be there. They might be prepping us. This might be one of Brothers going actually James. Let's leave Deadshot and get people used to this so that we can set up Batman and Superman being played by new actors. And Batman is happening. That might that might be top of that might be what's you know, that might be part of it. I don't know. What do you what do you make of this? Oh, yeah. I mean well, I mean that because that's an interesting point and I started looking I started looking sort of at the there's an image that came out from Comic-Con. I think like three years ago when they were all there Suicide Squad and be be sent to test dude you were like, look how many eggs are XX? Yeah. Everyone's gone. Yeah. I know and I think I would say the only Between This and like Guardians for example is because James Gunn came in and was at the beginning of Guardians and he's there to tell the right but story of part one and part two different. It's a little different, you know, when you're coming into a movie that Warner Brothers is sort of pitching you or you're pitching to them a sort of a soft reboot that think there's a little bit more flexibility to sort of change the actors out and when there's a scheduling conflict, you know, could they have waited absolutely. Could it be a scheduling conflict plus a combination of like maybe Wilson saying I think I'm good. Yeah, man, you know, I mean I think he's known for doing that. Yeah, he's known for like rarely doing sequels rarely doing this kind of film. I mean Men In Black I think is the only franchise I did he yeah, and I think it was like a while before he wanted to do three, you know, and he'll earn in day he died his character, right? Yeah, exactly. So it's like yeah, this might this might be will being like I'm going to pass gentleman, like maybe his no matter how we're excited to how much were excited about this thing. Maybe his experience with the first film was like hmm. Okay, like that might be the case. Yeah, and you know, I For me personally, like I think we both like we have a huge respect and love for Idris, Elba. Oh big time. So again, I don't doubt. This is Don Cheadle because it's like I thought Terrence Howard was great. This is not an upgrade or downgrade. It's like a side grade. It's like fact that he's great. It's like you got the love I loved it was kissing his Banner. Yeah, but I'm like you get we Ruffalo and I'm like God damn it. He's great. Yeah side grade. I know every and so there was a lot of questions, you know, whether or not other characters are going to come back. So apparently according to this report Margot. Robbie will come back as Harley Quinn. Okay, June. Okay. She will come back as Harley Quinn, but she won't actually enter production until after her movie wraps God once where is the prey and it makes sense then she'll transition over to Suicide Squad. So I again, you know going back to last week's conversation the talk was that we're going to have new members not the old ones but I do like the fact that we're going to use characters like Deadshot and Harley to potentially sort of be the bridging gap between the oiled of them. You know, what needs to be the gap. It needs to end the wall Amanda Waller. She's they have Fury of that. I know man said anything about that character went out. She'll be back now and honestly, I'm like go for it and get David Harbor character to go back as well that weird little like the government gotta for sure. Like that's the continuity. Yeah. That's the I don't know. Yeah. Yeah the also there's been some conflicting reports whether or not Rick flag will be in it. There was a report that came out that said Joel Kim in Joel Kinnaman will not be coming back. And now this collider report that talked about the roster the potential roster of all these characters said it's conflicting. Some people are saying that he will be coming back. But am I being you actor or you may not be coming back at also? Like Rick flag is a big question mark we don't know. It's just the other thing that they did say the article did say is that instead of this movie taking inspiration from The New 52, which is sort of more of what David a or did this one will go back more towards the 80s original Suicide Squad Comics by John Ostrander and Kim Yale. So I think they're going to I think this is a really good opportunity for Or James Gunn to take Floyd Lawton as a character and really connect us with him personally and emotionally. Oh, I'm so there's like the big thing about him in the first movie was, you know his connection to his daughter and wanting to be reunited with his family and I think because of the crazy pass that this character has had and it's probably changed based on what Comics you read but him coming from a family of like parents who did not have the best, you know at home life him accidentally killing his brother while he was supposed to, you know, kill his dad you've done your research. I mean, I think it's like a very interesting history. Yeah. Yeah. So I think like a carrot an actor like a dress can bring. Oh, yeah. Oh much depth to that. Oh, yeah and what James Gunn did with guardians and Star-Lord and even the other characters? Yeah Maura and all that sort of stuff your axe drags, like there's so much that you can do and I personally would I don't hate that for Suicide Squad movie. I think it's very entertaining. Yeah, I think Will Smith brings a very entertaining element to Deadshot, but I think the movie doesn't really have a lot of depth I think now, An opportunity to really like get into the depth of these characters. I agree. I think that that first movie like I it's not my like my lowest ranked of the of the DC films franchise again, I think there's a lot of potential in it. I think when I was done well watching them for the first time I went okay part two potential just give them more time to do it. Everybody now famously knows David are had like so little time to write and then like actually shoot the thing. But all of the pieces are in play the characters, I think our solid the most part the characters that are underserved and that I'm not a fan of I think fall prey to light stereotypes and cliches and and and different things that were like disappointing. Yeah, and and I also think like the the reports of like what comic book run its going to draw from I don't think that what it drew from was necessarily like the problem of that film again, it's just like it's just the time that they had to do it. It's those kinds of production issues. It's that it felt as though there was a reaction to Batman vs Superman that The producers of The Suicide Squad very nervous and like lets you know, right actually maybe let's not go as hard. Yeah, because the last one really bummed everybody out and it didn't do what we expected it to do. So. Yeah, I think like they're still like some of the 80s stuff that I read was in the first Suicide Squad movie. Obviously, there's some of that new 52 2011 Lionel more recent era of comics as well. So like, you know, then again the guards the Guardians Comics like they draw from like the the ab inabnit And Landing run of Guardians rights act that the new Guardians movies kind of but then they also there's some like older Guardian stuff in there and then it's just straight up new, you know? Oh Star-Lord Likes music because his mom like that stuff that's like genius not in the comics at all. So yeah, and I would I would think like maybe I think this is also an opportunity to sort of play it play with the tone a little bit too. Yeah, because I think James gun while he can make a very entertaining and light-hearted and fun and humorous movie think this is also an opportunity. We're going to talk about bright burn a little bit later this opportunity to maybe even like sort of a hit a little bit of that darker territory, but not dark in the sense of just being like depressing and and yeah, I think it's more about the emotion of the characters and being a little bit more sold what he can do what it was the thing that I'm most excited about. Is it he can bring heart? Yeah. I think the suicide squad works best when you read I just read like a Suicide Squad Aquaman crossover book, which was called sink, Atlantis. And it was great and the introduce this brand new character. I've never heard of and he shows up and he's on the suicide squad and I was like, oh man, I love this character and sure enough by the end do died and I was like dang it, but that's the heart. That's what it's supposed to do. Like it's supposed to like just mess you up and go now as in their little Loops as opposed to slip knot who you're like. Oh, that's cool. That's Adam Beach - was that mm be? Okay. Well, I would have liked to connect with him. He'll before his you know, first movie man you fall in love with Groot and then he sacrifices himself. It's awesome. Dude. It's like so good. So it's I think that it's and and Suicide Squad even I think more than guardians Guardians is even more heroic than the suicide squad within their respective universes. Yeah, some of the edge that the guardian they're all criminals, right, but they're not they're not like it's like Ant-Man they're not like violent temper, you know, and if they are, it's Drax and it's like we forgive him because he's so eccentric and we learn his backstory and were like, oh, he's a turtle. So Kimora's the deadliest assassin in the universe a better dad stano's. Okay, I get it. I get it and Rocket group. They just want money. They want to make credits. They just want to you know, so and Peter like steal stuff. He doesn't like kit murder people right was Suicide Squad. You can push that more they are in Belle Reve. They are they are bad guys back rise to put hard in that total just gonna be great dude. I'm excited. Yeah, they also did did reveal and this is so this is a report from collider. They did say that this is unconfirmed because the story has A script has gone through several rewrites. This squad lineup could change. This is what they're hearing. So far is the lineup ratcatcher sure, which in this movie apparently will be gender swap sure and will and and Floyd line will play somewhat of like a father figure to this character. Hmm king shark polkadot, man Peacemaker and Peacemaker apparently is a role. That potentially will be for Dave Bautista. Okay, which okay, I mean you put Dave Batista, and I'm all about peace. Since that's going to be great. It's gonna be great. That's and that's everybody so far. That's everybody so far. This maker is also the character who famously inspired one of the characters in Watchmen the commedia know so Peacemaker was originally a Charleston Comic character along with the Blue Beetle and the question and I want to say captain Adam was one and then I want to say oh my God, who was the one that inspired Silk Spectre? Who is it? Was it Phantom ladies act, you know, do you know the comic book character that Tired Silk Spectre forgot her name. Anyway someone in the comments we are it's this Hector cool man. Great. Thank you. But Alan Moore wanted to use those characters and was like, I just want to tell the most fucked-up story with these guys and DC was like actually created their own him and Dave Gibbons created their own sort of set of characters. The comedian was based on Peacemaker actually a character who left piece so much that he was like a crazy assassin like you look straight up kill people. The comedian there's some similarities is somebody who like is so tapped into the reality of the world that everything's a joke. Yeah, it's it so he's the comedian and then he that's why he's but he's like super brutal even though he like has like a clown outfit in his you know, when he's like a teenager, you know, so I think that's really interesting if it's not Batista. I don't know how people feel about this just get Jeffrey Dean Morgan. I don't know if you I don't know if he'd be down but that would be very very easiest like he plays Bruce Wayne in one scene. I'm like, I'll be down have Jeffrey Dean Morgan in the See movies like officially. Yeah, for sure. I mean, that's true. Yeah, he does play Thomas Wayne, but I don't think I'll ever do I don't know. I think at this point with how they're considering investing reading flash but I don't think so. No, they won't I don't think that there's yeah, I don't think they place for around. I think that there is so like that would be cool. But that would also mean like, all right if Annie DC Future movie has the Blue Beetle you you have to get King orm to play him and next I'm gonna and if there's any ever the question, you got to get Jackie Earle Haley that's her back. And so maybe that should be sales. Maybe I should say. Well I'm super excited about I mean again, It doesn't come out till 2020 one. So that's their ears from the thrift thing that'll go by like that. I know that will go by like, yeah, and apparently he's going to start shooting and hopefully sometime in the summer. So okay. So if that let's do the math if that starts shooting hmm in the summer of this year, you know, and then it'll end by the Fall. It's like a little bit like three four months five months. It could go into the picture could go to the new year, but then it comes out next year and then they'll be like post all this post production right then he does the press for it and it comes out what summer of 2001 20 21 August of 2012 right in the middle of the year that guards of the I see release date and then September Disney calls put amen. Let's do Guardian three. Let's do guardians three. Come on back buddy. It's like okay is response. Okay, you had your fun? I don't know. It's if it's a serious I'm joking, but the serious thing I think should for real be Kevin feige convincing Disney. This is my in my head what I think it is happening is, you know, we talked about this the fact that that movie wasn't just filming that they care about the preserving that hurt. Reserving that and I feel that they would know not only with Dave Bautista, you know saying I'm not going to do it if it's not James Gunn not only that sort of attitude. But like I think a lot of movie going on and says in a lot of fans of the Guardians know that it's James Gunn who wrote indirect directed one and two and then one with Nicole Perlman, so like why wouldn't Disney want to build up the hype right? We're going to see the characters again in Avengers endgame possibly rockets in it for sure. We don't know if there are other characters come back. They're gonna probably come back but at the end of that movie leave us wanting more We're like to having you started filming Guardians volume 3. Yeah, they start filming in 2021 at the end of 2020 1/2 years from now or three years from now and to 2022. Yeah for it to come out 20 24 24. Yeah, right for years from now. That's not the craziest Gap know so it's like a Marvel movies and literally yeah 1818. So like I think that there's a if whoever made the call to not make that movie could convince the rest of Disney like, okay look he went and did another huge tent pole soup the same exact. Audience for the direct competition and a couple people asked him questions during the Press about his comments. And this is how it was handled that Studios taken the flak the movie came out dealt with it. They've dealt with it. Let's go you can say face bring him back so that they can announce from Visionary director. James got right like again. Yeah, man, so I guess we'll see that's my that's my math right now. It's like again, it seems like it's far away, but this is not so quick. It goes by so quick. It's already been like seven years. The Dark Knight Rises almost that's crazy man, right? Yeah. It's insane. It's sometimes I think it's been it's been oh my God seven years. Yeah since yeah since like John Carter, I feel like that movie just came out. I know like so yeah dude those go buy it it'll happen. So a certain show is coming to an end after eight seasons arrow for Chic including at the season 8 Stephen Amell announce it on Facebook. I watched the video. Oh nice. Here's my thoughts on are okay. I have not. Not always been a big fan of the show. I think some seasons is work better than other Seasons. There are episodes throughout that I think work a lot better than you know arcs in the whole thing. But I love the cast. Yeah, I love when they interact with other shows and I really loved Stephen Amell. I know a lot of people give them a lot of shit for the way. He plays that character because sort of just like straight-faced but I love his enthusiasm. I love his dedication to the character. Do they work hard? They work really really hard. I mean you've been to the sets having no but But you've interviewed some people from the shows probably yeah major you mean they just like Echo Calum, like right people that we know sir when he's in LA but it's those production schedules are brutal. Yeah. I mean he's basically has been living in Vancouver for 70 years. Yeah, so but I think it's because I think he's Canadian isn't Stephen Amell canadian-american actor? Like he's got but something that he did talk about the Facebook video that I thought was was very true. As you know, he's been living in Canada for seven years. He's been making the show and he wants to explore Or other opportunities, you know, he's been on a couple movies the most notably he played Casey Jones. Yeah Wells. Yeah. So I think now you know, he's mentioned that he wants to do other things and all that sort of stuff the thing that the thing that I appreciate the way that they're handling. This is that from the video he made it sound like this is something that's been on his mind for a year or two and apparently at the end of his contract he kind of wanted his character to leave the show, but he was fine with the show continue on without him with All the other characters and he said he had a conversation with Greg berlanti in the producers and they said, you know what to better service to shown to not just sort of let it run until it's dried out to show will be over. Let's end the show. Let's sing the character Green Arrow and his supporting characters off in a nice respectful way. So I think this is a really nice way to do I agree especially because it's not the only show yeah and other characters that were introduced in Arrow literally landed as like principal characters in legends of tomorrow. Morrow and their own so if there are actors who in their own show flash, so if there are actors that are that are like that just started they were only on Arrow for a little bit. I feel like even though probably the most recent like Edition was like somebody like Echo Callum. Yeah for the most part and even he was like leaving the show like he announced that he's also going to be leaving the show. So if they're actors that are like, oh man, I want to keep going though. Like this is my whole job ssible, dude. They just hop over to Legends like or they go and guests aren't and then that on there on team flash exact or Look out stuck in Supergirls Universe you okay. Now you're on the show Supergirl likely there's three other shows that are happening. They woman's coming Batwoman. Yeah, so that women could effectively also like take the take the place of arrow with like what it does for the other arrowverse shows. So yeah, man, this this makes me excited for two reasons number one 10 episodes. Yes, that's going to be a tight tan shortened. That's good to know. You haven't had we been asking for this forever, please dude. I don't know when I don't think it'll ever happen, but if all of a sudden they Announce it every other show was also 10 episodes. I'd be like, these are going to be some of the four best seasons of Television like we would do I wash since to this story wise it'd be like, oh my God it took to be able to get it done. But but TV production is different and in you know unit the Netflix level. It's like even though ones that are way shorter than a 22-episode season 13 episodes. We've always talked about them Middle Run of episodes like it's not great for the most part just to ten. She's stranger things stranger things handled really well just do eight like Defenders like Although Punisher was cool for 13 July the 1st season haven't seen the second one yet second reason. I'm excited to show finally ending. I'm like, I want to start the arrowverse again from the beginning and actually watch every episode and watch the whole thing. And I think that's going to be my project that's going to be my project. Here's what here's what I'm doing right now doing all the MCU movies this summer after end game comes out. I'm doing the MCU shows because I also haven't seen every episode of Agents of Shield. Yeah, and that's going to be like also Coulson Clark Gregg also announced like it'll probably end. After 7:00. Yeah, so I'm like, okay, I'm going to spend the back half of this year literally doing every MCU show Agents of Shield Agent Carter weird little web series or whatever at the Netflix stuff again, because there's a bunch of season twos and threes that I like mist and haven't caught up yet cloak-and-dagger runaways whatever else is, you know happening catch up on that. There's a there's a lap. There's not super super a lot like it's doable then when I'm done with all that arrowverse, baby episode 1 season one Arrow. I've already seen season 1 didn't love it, but I'm going to do it again. I know I know man. Yeah. Yeah, let's let's let's dive in to the air over here. That's right, Mighty. I could be productive or I could watch every episode of the errors. I think I got my answer. I think I do like this quote the from the CW president Mark pedowitz. He says things will age and we want to get the next generation of shows to keep the CW DC Universe going. For as long as possible as long as possible. Yeah, and I agree. I mean like it makes it makes sense and part of me wishes. I agree with you a part of me wishes that they would go to like an 8 to 10 episode 4 mad that way they could rotate shows even throughout like throughout a regular 23 episode season, you can rotate through like three shows almost, you know, you can do like I see what you mean. I ain't episode run of the flash Supergirl Legends Batwoman black light that would still mean the DC show is only ever on a Monday night and they don't have Tuesday Wednesday Thursday Friday, you know. Like it's like damn imagine how much stuff you could pop po4. She looks like it's already crazy because Greg berlanti I think produces like 16 shows what that's nuts it is he's doing some you know, he's obviously doing some stuff on DC Universe. Yeah, so I don't know like I'm just glad that they've decided because for me I loved I loved Smallville. Yeah, and honestly, we could think Smallville for a lot of this. Yeah for sure because originally the plan was to have that green area just in heart Justin Hartley have his own green our show and he didn't want to do he thought I would sort of like put a bad taste in people's mouths, you know, he kind of owed his success to the character in his acting career to Smallville. So he kind of felt like it was kind of like a betrayal to that showed like I'm gonna go do my own thing. So then they ended up making this reboot. But I do like the fact that even though you know, like I loved it. I loved a lot of Smallville, but I felt like it's sort of overstate its welcome a little bit. Oh for sure. I feel like it could have wrapped up in the for six seasons. Yeah one what original what's the joke like okay. They should have changed you to Metropolis that he like it's not even about it's not all four years of Of yeah, exactly sure. So I do like the fact that with this show they're saying we had a good run we had great see a great Seasons. We're going to have a great Seasons. Let's wrap the character up, you know in the elseworlds crossover, you know, he makes a deal to potentially Save a Life of like two characters and with crisis on infinite Earths coming does that mean he will potentially sacrifice himself? We don't know I'll but it would be a nice way to sort of either heckling was holding Stephen Amell. Alright crying and different price. It's really nice. To sort of wrap up that character story if they do end up wanting to kill him like green arrow could easily ride off into the sunset and someone else come in and take over the role. But if they do end up killing the characters and I think like this is a nice way to do a nice 10 episodes solid send off and make room for Batwoman or whatever else is going to come in layers. But you know, I think the show had a good run I think again that show did create a lot of opportunities. Obviously, it was given opportunity, but it created an opportunity for so many things. Oh, yeah, and it's yeah. I kind of get a little upset of people on the internet when they're like our sucks. There's this there's none like you you got to give it its you may not like the show. Yeah have to acknowledge the fact that it created so much opportunity for DC Super Heroes on television. They don't they never been in a lot of ways is the more at least prolific iteration of the DC Universe in live action right now there it's years between movies, you know, it doesn't have that same sort of momentum. Yeah, and whenever it feels like man, it'd be so great to see something in a Movie it'll never had we're years away from it. Like they're pulling off shows like here's flash goes. Here's here's crisis on Earth X. You're like shit man. That's crazy. Like you're also receiving great. Here's the dominators. Here's you know, the time Masters or whatever like all this. Here's rip Hunter here's it's crazy Constantine even had a second life on those shot. Dave speaking of king shark. They got king shark. They got Gorilla Grodd it's coming on. It's right. It's probably it's crazy. It's crazy. Let's switch gears a little bit over 2. Aquaman and so the producer Peter Safran did a nice Interview With The Hollywood Reporter. He talked a little bit about the trench spin-off that's coming and he talked a little bit about the sequel of Aquaman which is going to be coming. He did can say he did confirm that the trench movie will be happening. It will be released prior to Aquaman 2, but it will take place after the events of the first Aquaman movie. Okay, Aquaman Mara will not be in it. Okay. He says that a lot of the inspiration mostly came from the reaction that people had to that to that trench sequence. And I mean famously like that trailer did really sell that sequence extremely. Yes, and that's see the One-Shot rad one ant hill shot. Yeah of them going down underwater and stuff. So I know we've kind of been back and forth on the whole trench spin-off. I'm not necessarily the craziest about it and I I would have assumed that we would have gone in a proper Aquaman sequel prior to the trench from spin-off movie, especially because not dealing with characters connected to the aqua and movies as far as we know right now particularly. Early Aquaman Ameri, so I don't really know what that story could be. We kind of we spit ball to few things last time of things that we think it could be you knows who knows what it could end up being. I forgot a thing what we said and we got ourselves excited about it. We're like, that could be cool. Yeah about potentially I think it was I think it was during the fall of Atlantis right from the surface World down into the depths of the ocean. Yeah following the character look potentially like becomes a monster of the yeah, but that's a long time ago. So they're telling us is like happening after the events of the verses. So what do you do? I just hope it's not like two regular good-looking people like a horrible Monsters of the true Jess again are on a boat, except they're not Aquaman and Mara and then it's like we got attacked by it there. It's a horror film get out of there. He escaped. I know that this is part of it. But the the thing right now is like we've talked about with the show Krypton. We don't understand we didn't understand like like the call you guys after the contact you guys have to pitch this to us to comic book fans that are familiar with this idea because of this idea as we read it at a The Hollywood Reporter, it seems ill-conceived and then we hear time travel right Adam Strange. We're like, whoa, that's the berries are the stakes The Twist. Yeah, same thing needs to happen here the frustrating thing for me. It's frustrating because Warner Brothers make successful films and film franchises all the time. But no matter how great the Aquaman movie was. It's not just a movie right? It is an adaptation of 75 years of a In comic books and my thing is this feels like movie Producers. They know how to produce movies and make movies being inspired by producing movies and going. Hey, we did this over here successful and bringing this over to the Aquaman superhero Thing and going. Okay. Well, we did it with the conjuring. So we're going to do it with Aquaman instead of looking at what Aquaman needs and going this is what we should do is spin off of I remember was I was like, it should be about Tula it should be about or arms sister right King orm sister should be about Garth. It was like the Aqualad character or some of those kinds of side Fringe characters that are still effectively like Aquaman and marriage Junior like you could still have a story like that. So it doesn't it feels like it is. Oh, yeah, you know how we did Annabel, we'll just do that with Aquaman instead of do what this what this character in this world requires and have a movie be born out of that instead of oh, we looked successfully at The films that we produced how much money we made versus how much we paid to get the film made and how it hit with audiences because again, I don't think that that's the same audience and I don't think that I didn't hear this idea and go I can't believe we've never done a comic book about this, you know, like where I was like what a brilliant like organic, you know, I didn't so specific to Aquaman great and I want to feel like that but it didn't feel like that. So this this unfortunately to me feels a little bit like it feels like movie Producers being movie. Producers yeah, instead of like being able to at least lie to us and be like here's why this is perfect for Aquaman and then delivering that yeah. Well, he says he says we definitely taken a page from our Conjuring Playbook, which is you've got the mothership, which is Aquaman, but there are so many great stories to tell within that Universe of itself that Atlantean Universe. Yes, I agree. The trench is not on that list for me. Like I agree a hundred percent. I think like if you wanted to explore the world of Atlantis one, you don't have to just explore Atlantis. There's so many other kingdoms that you Potentially explore it right? There's so many other different different worlds within the Aquaman universe that are not the trench that I think you could directly tie into Aquaman and round is yeah and like those things are directly connected to the Atlanta to the acronym of Atlantis that I think would be way more interesting. I think there's even I'm not usually crazy about prequels, but maybe there is potential opportunity to do a story about Atlanta or you know, Aquaman's father loved her Tom. Yeah great. Like I think there's opportunities to explore that even a story of King orm prior to the events of when when when Arthur shows up in Atlantis, but even Mara there's so many other things that you could do before you're like in every movement trench thing that we did in the yeah, man, it's cold. I feel like it would be like the first Ant-Man movie comes out and in Marvel Studios is like look, we know that we plan to do Ant-Man in the WASP, but we got one better for you Quantum realm the movie is coming. You know how awesome the quantum realm was when Scott Lang went into the quantum Realm. Loved it. Everybody loved it. So here we go Quantum realm it's not gonna happen, but what's in it, but it's the quantum realm. It's like what it what is that? It was a cool say Hey, you know that maybe we could have done dr. Strange too. I got one better for you Mirror Universe the movie remember the sequence it was super dope where they went into the Mirror Universe. Okay. So no Stephen Strange in this one. No Ancient One basically nobody that does magic but trippier visuals for two hours. I thought for mmm and you're going to say Antony and the Ants. Yeah. Antony and the Ants before they meet like yeah, like maybe Scott Lang. It's like 100 our story picks up after Anthony's Wing Falls and other ants gather and mourn their fallen friend and then we just stay on the answer for two hours. You know, there's 60 million dollars the creatures they can't speak right there the stars of our movie it does it feels a little ill-conceived it feels it feels movie executive and not comic book die-hard fan. Yeah, and I think that's that's sort of the frustrating thing and again, you know, you say it all the time. You're right. When you are going to go out there and make statements about these movies that you're going to make for comic book fans or calm book movie fans people who watch these things from the cartoons to the movie follow these neat the follow the news exactly. It's like you need to give us a little bit more than just I want to make a movie about the trench. Yeah, what's our in and I get it that it we're very early in the process and this movie who knows what it'll come out could come out next year come out the year after that. I think it's I think your little bit of it because it well. It has to come out before 2020 to because Aquaman 2 has a date of December. I think it's December 15th or two. Yes. It'll either be next year or the year after exactly and 2021 already has the Batman and Suicide Squad some like if it's going to be a low budget horror movie then you technically could do it next November. Yeah, you'd have to just kind of start making it happen soon. Shoot it this year and then yeah, so that's part of the thing is like great if you are already potentially in some sort of planning / pre-production development stage you should An idea what the story is now may be able to have like a log line or something of like this is what it is. So when we talk about it, we can say Greg. This is the concept are we sold on the concept? We'll have to wait and see it. Give us just one comic book. Yeah, but now it's sort of like we're just kind of picking at straws and hoping that it's one of the two things that will say cooling just say literally just starring the character Tula because it'll make people reading The Hollywood Reporter be like, I don't know what that is, but a bunch of comments and fancy-like dope. That's perfect could probably be an Aquaman to great. What is great? What a great connect and I think that's like that's a great bridge to you can Bridge a character from from that movie and talk them into I don't know the other controversial hot take that the producer Peter. Safran had was interesting. I think that when you're making really strong Standalone movies, there's really no need to bring them together heater want to give these characters with your buddy breathe and live and tell their story Peter Peter Peter Peter Peter Peter come here. They're not mutually exclusive and it's an it. I think it's I think it's huh Peter eggs. I don't know how to Open seven one you're not wrong. Like if Peters effectively saying when you're telling good movies, you're making good movies in good movies are good movies and it's like Yeah a hundred percent. I agree. But I feel like it's kind of crapping on what the DC Universe is man. It's kind of crapping on that. It's I don't want shoehorned in cameos. I don't want you to put the cart before the horse. I don't want to make a movie that's DC Universe the movie. I want you to make a specific character Focus thing like Aquaman looks like Shazam Wonder Woman 84. That's what I want. But to Just say in an effort to be different from Marvel and Disney in an effort to be like, well, here's what we do. We make good movies on their own. Like I think you're doing a disservice to what the brand is and if that's really how you feel. And if that's how Warner Brothers feels like it makes me it makes me feel like crap. It makes you feel like what do you I'm like, what are you guys doing them then for like one of brother's nose Harry Potter one in Harry Potter 8 are connected. That's why Harry Potter eight is good because you Characters through a larger story and it was this epic Grand scale and it was the movie event of a generation and it's from the trailer like right where the Cinematic event of a generation like if you guys want to do that again, you have to you have to treat it. Like it's a whole thing. It's not to disrespect Aquaman. Oh, he could never work without a Batman Cameo. He could never you know wonder when we could never work as long as unless people know she'll show up in Justice League. That's not what it's about. It's about looking at it's about looking at the history of DC. And going this is so good. And with you sat on it too long. We cannot wait to bring you guys the rest of these characters. We believe that they're worth it. Yeah, you know and and and part of that is knowing that Dynamic that like taco man bounces off of Wonder Woman very well in the comic books Aquaman bounces off of Batman Aquaman works with the suicide squad. I just read it was dope. Yeah like it was great. So yeah. Yeah and I think that's that's that's the unfortunate part. That's the thing. I find it like it's super frustrating. Training because and I'm sure and it's you know, you also look at this quote and you you have to remind yourself. This is a complete. If you're just looking at the quote out of context you are potentially going to ignore the fact that as a studio we've heard quotes of we've heard Quotes come out of one. Another saying these are going to be independent films. They will still be in a connected Universe, right? But they may not necessarily interact with each other all the time, which I'm fine with. Yeah, we don't Need all these we don't need every character to crossover and every single sink every single movie, especially when it's a movie. That's a singular movie based on a one particular character. For example Shazam. I don't necessarily need to see Batman and I don't need to see Superman in it. But the thing that I've seen from the movie that I love is like there are references to Batman. Yeah references to Superman. We're in section figures of side. What is it mean for Shazam exact? What is it due to that carrot? How does it influence that character and what he does as a superhero and I think like that to me is where the These movies can really shine is you not necessarily have you don't necessarily have to have the characters in one movie but you see the influence. Yeah, and then you can build towards some sort of an event. Yeah start to slowly piece the movies together introduced characters in other movies and then you build towards the Justice League. And I mean, that's how Marvel has done it for the last 10 years. Every movie has led one thing to the next sometimes sometimes it hasn't worked like for me there are movies that have done Crossovers and it hasn't worked a hundred percent of the time. No, it's fine. But at least they're going to keep going to keep Taking Chances and I would like others to do the same. They're freaked out about Justice League. Okay, fine. How about like five years from now you guys plan to do Teen Titans sure and that way you can have your new actor playing Batman. He shows up in that because it's about Rob and joining the team talks about night Robin being Nightwing and being on the Titans and that's the like a crossover film but it's a new IP, you know, it's based off of the successful cartoon and the seems very popular Titans show that's on CW like, you know, like Like do that and and yeah, man, it just feels like it just feels like that's just missed opportunities and it's just like a it feels like a bummer sometimes didn't we we've kind of answer one question yet. So like do you think DC should build let's say so let's say they're going to do Batman Superman Wonder Woman Green Lantern Shazam. What's up? Yeah, do you think that they should really focus have teams dedicated. Okay, you're the Shazam team build out his Universe Shazam the Marvel family the villains. No, I don't think so. I think that you like them. I think that it depends on I think that that's a movie producer thing. Yeah, and not a this is what works for Universe building like, you know, look to the example of of Marvel Studios and Disney, they didn't do a spin-off of a low-key movie even though that character hit and was wildly successful and very popular very popular waited a long time before now we're going to do a show right and it's nny because he'd let character had a specific role in their larger. Setting yep and the same goes for will the Hulk is a legal thing, but that's like you know, but they found it frustrating. Yeah, they found a place to bring him in in Thor Ragnarok. But yeah man liked it. They're not going to do a they didn't do a Star-Lord movie even though that movie was wildly successful because it's like he's a part of this group if you disservice to the rest of the Guardians, yeah. Yeah, and and I and like I like that they that they kind of they have people who when they were talking to Joss. Eden for directing the first Avengers movie he was like, I don't know if I'm gonna do this but no matter what happens Ultron needs to be the villain for part 2 like Joss Whedon felt that he knew that sort of logical progression of what the what's next and what that thing can do and I don't want to necessarily see a bunch of spin-offs of each of these things. I think that like again Doctor Strange they didn't go right into Doctor Strange to they didn't go with like, okay. We're going to give the Ancient One her own film. Mordo his own movie or whatever because they knew okay. We got the doctor strange movie almost out of the way and now he's going to be very important in an Infinity War. We're going to see him in Thor before that. Yeah, and and it seems as though that character has been present since 2016 because he showed up in a movie that year 2017 or 2018 and now it's 2019 and he'll be in this one probably again same thing with Iron Man. So like but all of that stuff to me feels like they're going to the comic books. They're going to the comic book history the importance of these characters. And you know, I don't think that they're they're not waiting to see how audiences necessarily react. Yeah, they are of certain things don't work sure because Thor changed tone because they they were like we got to swing for the fences on this third one. The first two didn't really know the second one especially was like that people didn't really love it. And so they swung for the fences, but I don't think they're waiting to see how Captain Marvel does to be like. Okay. What should we do? What should we do? Next Ben mendelsohn's character in his own movie itself gets a spin-off and no matter how or like we would have Do no matter how much people like that character. It's about okay, we know where Carol's going to be right? We know what we're going to use this character for and they'll have a general idea of what to do later. What I think that they should do Eve is as essentially what Marvel is kind of doing where it seems as if they have one or a group of people mapping out the whole thing with large beats. Yeah, but then they bring in filmmakers in and creators to collaborate and be like flashes out. What is this? Oh, that sounds great. We're gonna go with that for some stuff in there, you know to work for those larger beats and the difference is is that Marvel is doing three movies a year. Don't do that. If you have one a year to maybe one every two years if you have to a year plus a The Joker sad thing is going to know what is going to be still just make that work for your larger beats Aquaman 2 isn't coming out till 2022 four years from when the first one came out for years use that to your advantage. I said before just like planet is like, okay and then here okay. This is what's going to these are the larger beats here. Aquaman's gonna have a kid the Justice League will still be around. Houndour like a new version of that will be here. This is what black mantas up to and as long as other stuff leading up to that or after that like doesn't mess with that. That's so I think that that's what they should do. And I think it will it will strengthen the brand. Yeah, and it will strengthen people's excitement for what comes next and if those plans change along the way fine, but it but it feels as though feel like we've had this conversation since 2013 like well again, I think it's like it comes down to pay off right if you're a fan from the very beginning. It's how a lot of people feel now about going into end games like damn. I've been there since Iron Man 1. Yeah. I've been there since the beginning of the game now. We're in the end game and it's like I've been there for the whole thing. It just you feel like all the time you've invested is paid off and I want to feel that about the DC character soup because I love these characters and I love each of their individual universes and I would love to in eight to ten years be like damn. We you know, we stumbled a little bit in the beginning but we found our stride and it just took off and like We're like knocking out. They join you in the sun. That's right. Kal-El. They have they will stumble they will fall but someday they will join you will see will see you dude it man. I would love it if Amy Adams continued to play Lois Lane, right a new actress playing Superman shirt, but then they have a kid Jonathan Kent. Yeah straight up like the next time we see Superman. He's got like a seven-year-old. I'd be crazy not like just keep it going. You know the Young Justice Stevens friends DC Batman is celebrating his 80th birthday. That's great. All these superheroes is crazy. All these supers having like big big and yeah, I know man there's he doesn't look a day over 30. He does not he does not he probably has an age probably just for 70 years. Yeah. There's a lot of different stuff that's going to be happening throughout the year. I'm going to kind of go through some of the things that are happening starting with South by Southwest with just started. I think today was actually the first day by the way, they screened us you Jordan Peele. Yeah for losing their shit. So it's good and not wait to go. See you at people saying it's good for saying it's incredible that Lupita Nyong'o steals the movie. Fantastic kids man. So they're going to be debuting some stuff at South by Southwest. I think it's going to be starting next weekend though. They're gonna have new merchandise and you are to commemorate Batman's 80th birthday including a special March fifteen March 15th event, which they will be releasing 1.5 million baths over the Congress Bridge in Austin, Texas. You can't control bad. I don't know if they're expecting all these fucking bats to make a bat signal in the sky. I don't think so boy, so we're going to see how Austin reacts to that one. I think that's pretty it's already like a real thing like that. Those bats are already there. Yeah, I think those bats are already there. I think that they're just like they're like Port like I think it's a real thing. I think I was wrong about everything. Yeah that the bridge is even full of guano. Like it's a really it's like a real thing in Austin. So it's not something that like, they're bringing their shell flying fastball around the same time. They're yeah, so they're they're just kind of using nature Jack we're promoting. That's cool. That's cool. I thought DC will release two special anniversary comic books the hardcover Detective Comics. I'm getting a series of Man, I'm getting that deluxe edition because you get the Superman when right Action Comics. Yeah, 80 years of action. It's a great but I want to get that balancing record. You gotta have that. Yeah collection. Yeah and obviously detective one thing axis and the charcoal 1000 on March 27. So to Comics the like every comic book collector or anyone who's like a fan of these characters like why would you not want to buy those? Yeah Milestones the Presbyterians dude action 1000 was a great book. It was such a good comic book does I still remember look like little pieces of that of those stories is like being super impactful the more soup. Branches flying to catch his bullet. Yeah so good at something. It's like when these characters as like I love the Marvel characters, but Batman Superman Wonder Woman, those are characters who have been around the longest in terms of superheroes. And those are always the ones that I'm kind of like those the ones I gravitate towards I guess Spider-Man will also be one for Marvel sure as he is kind of up there in terms of recognition relatives and he's not as Mythic because he's a characters are from the late 30s and early 40s. They Mythic they're huge. Super super exciting other something I'm doing so WonderCon. They're going to be doing a happy Batman. Happy birthday Batman panel. They haven't really specified exactly what it's going to be about then the theme parks at Six Flags are going to be doing a whole bunch of stuff to commemorate the anniversary of Batman. There's going to be some stuff happening at the Mondo Gallery in Austin V. DC museum has now kind of switched over to an Aquaman exhibit, but I think they still have bad went there up don't they are no not right now. They have it the bottom floor, which I think the top floor is Harry. Potter but at Warner Brothers Studios, the bottom floor is Aquaman basically every cost too much which is gorgeous and then Wonder Woman so like every costume from the movie one and they've had bad guy stuff there for years now. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, then Batman there's gonna be Diamond Centric programming on television Cartoon Network a bunch of different channels all kinds of stuff. Obviously though. There were very likely be something huge at San Diego Comic-Con this year. And if this Batman movie is coming on 2021, it's a good opportunity to have Matt Reeves there to maybe announce who's that man will be I think that that will be a nice really cool celebration of the character and there's there's a few other things but they were saying so DC basically saying like look stay tuned or social media, especially March 30th. That's the official 80th anniversary date and then September September 21st, is this year's annual Batman day. So there's going to be a whole bunch of stuff going on all year long. So if you're a Batman fan, which most of us are it's going to be a fun time to celebrate. So I'm looking forward to a lot of the stuff. I'm particularly. Early excited to see what they're going to do a Comic-Con this year. Yeah, cause I think DC is really finding its footing in terms of their movies. So I'm hoping that we obviously gets up with Wonder Woman 84. Yeah, we'll probably get stuff with birds of prey. Yeah, but I would love to see something major for Batman a great thing castien great casting for announcing. Yeah, that would be great. It would be great. I would love for somebody to explain the trench to me economica. That would be great. And now Peter Safran Davis playing the church happens like okay everybody. Listen, it's going to be too long. I'll be like yeah, it's to look like that's yeah, come on Peter. Come on. Come on, Pete Wilson my kind of game. I know it's a full year Batman celebration. So and the one thing that I did like that I don't know if they're going to do this here for the 75th Anniversary the did for Batman and Superman. They did those original animated shorts so good. I just re-watched the Batman when the other day so good the Superman one gives me chills. It's it's amazing the Batman when is fun? Because it's Kevin Conroy with Adele being Batman Beyond and they fight that robot. Batman and at the end like all the other Batman are there and I'm like, that's great even like Adam West robot with you will red eyes. That's a great little moment. It's so good. Yeah. No, I loved it. So now we're going to jump over to Bright burn cool this movie looks crazy. So this is a movie that's written by James Gunn's brother and cousin James Gunn is the producer. He's not the director of this movie. This is a Sony Pictures released which like you say Sony and a median income like all right, but then you see the trailers. This looks like a mind-blowing superhero. Flipped upside down. Yeah movie if you don't know the concert the basic premise is it's not based on a graphic novel but it's basically taking the concept of Superman and sort of flipping out on its head and saying what if Superman came to Earth, but he came from a a race of people who maybe wasn't as hmm as I don't know because Dragon Ball Z. Basically, I guess Dragon Ball Z Goku big sayings were like a conquering people kind of and he was sent here to sort like The Iron Giant like the one century to sort of take over the whole town like What if someone came from the world of kryptonians who were like conquerors of world? It's so crazy how unique this concept is but also at the same time people are so familiar. Yeah. It's so familiar. I was watching the trailer and I'm like, I feel like I've read this in comic books this feels like a natural extension to like a lot of the ideas even in Man of Steel. Yes, it's it. I mean, I'm not purposely set up to look exactly and I'm not trying to knock that movie, but it it like I wonder if the point of this film the message will be like what will ultimately went out will it will it will have an Stick message. You will have a pessimistic message on Humanity On Us on kids on your on morals values. Whatever like what will what's the movie trying to say about Superman and ideas like Superman so fascinated one, especially it's like this movie this movie is going to embrace horror. Yes. So I think like it's going to fall on a full-on like exploit the horror genre exploit everything that it means be a deconstruction. So this is not going to be a movie that's going to be technically For all ages. Oh, no, you know so I think yeah to make a movie like this and targeted specifically for adults, you know, what is it trying to say, but what is it also trying to trying to communicate to us as adults who have grown up reading these characters. What is it going to sort of maybe try to challenge about the things that we understand or think we know about these characters and the other thing that's true is, you know, we now are sort of living in a world a very politically very heated. You think that this is a good time to make a super to make a movie like this that questions would it mean to be a superhero? Because you know what it made me think of is the line from the actor who played Roy in the office. He I'm forgetting his name. He was the Power Rangers dad in Power Rangers. Rangers Dad. It's a great actor after exactly. Look him up real quick. Look now because I want to credit him and also Elizabeth Banks also Rita, that's funny. It's to power just actors Power Rangers is pretty good. You guys, I like it. Not that bad, but That actor is not even listed. Oh great. Yeah, come on. Come on. Come on, go to know where the arrow goes. Where is it? Where is it? Pull it up. Where the heck did it? Go? Anyway, here's here's the thing when that actor said the line. He's not our son. Yeah that to me made me feel like this movie might be the what if and it's not what if Kal-El was evil. What if Superman was evil, but it's like but what if Martha and Jonathan Kent were not there all the way. Do you know I'm saying what if they were Not who they are. What kind of a Superman would be raised what kind of character would we get and maybe I'm wrong and I need to watch the movie because it obviously I don't know what these characters go through to get to a point where this dad says that because they find him as a baby. Yeah, and he's what can crash lands on Earth just like so he's 10 in this movie like so there with him for years. Yeah. It's not like he's ten and then they adopt him and then they try to say he's our son like it's this it's Superman. They raise a baby thing. They raised him. So this makes me feel like maybe I'm maybe I'm in the wrong but it's a movie that is specifically geared to make it look like hey, are you a fan of like cool dark takes on superhero stuff. You don't want to check this out. This is edgy. This is this is violent. This is going to be a horror movie. This is radar tricks everybody. They go to see it in and by the end of the movie, you're like man Jonathan Kent's the real hero of the Superman Mythos Jonathan and Martha are amazing characters that when they are not in this movie. This is what happened like like it might you appreciate those characters. I may be thinking optimistically, but maybe you walk out of that movie going like like this is what this is what Superman is and should be in this is where he is right now, unfortunately or what at like whatever trying to say. Maybe it's going to trick a sort of an edgy comic book audience at the going to see this and then be like would you think about Superman is wrong maybe or it's just like a fun crazy which looks fine and amazing and cool. Anyway, like I'm already in So, yeah, so like the other thing too is, you know could this movie A potentially spark a trend where filmmakers create movies like this that take characters the concepts of characters like Batman Superman Wonder Woman deconstruct them completely and they do in a way that doesn't tarnish with those characters are because they're technically not using those characters right? I hope so, but also, I don't know because this is such a specific movie right? I don't think you can do that. I don't think you did. It's like a one trick pony in a sense of like everybody will accept Okay, that's Superman but not like it's different. Laughs but effectively the same because that legend that origin is so specific a specific but also so like classic and well told if you did something like this with like, okay, this kid get spiders through an insect already. You're like stop they did it in bright burn like you're just doing Spider-Man. Okay. How about this rich kid stop, but you can't Batman. Come on, man. Oh you do? Okay. So, you know how there's God's right. So then there's this island and psyche stop II don't copy and pasting at this point. I hope that it's not a trend. And in that way, but what I think is exciting is like embracing that myth and we've seen it before I think Watchman is a movie that was ahead of its time and Watchman has a lot of deconstruction attempting sort of happening. But I think that it didn't have enough to say about superhero movies not enough superhero movies came out and now ten years later. There's a bunch left row. So I'm all for more movies like that actually deconstructing some of that, you know would be dope. Ninja Turtles is originally a spoof comic right we've had Seasons of a Daredevil Netflix show what if the next Ninja Turtles on top of being Ninja Turtles actually tries to spoof some of that like legit tries to spoof some of their like the very like melodramatic, you know, like, you know Slow Burn of a Netflix show and those like so I'm I'm I'm for that mystery man was ahead of its time. Let's bring that shit back. Let's do comedy. Let's do it like good but not bad, but like good let's do horror. Let's do, you know, let's explore different stuff and genres where Marvel Studios says each one of the movies as a sub-genre not really. Sometimes they do sometimes they don't you know, like Captain Marvel's straight superhero. Like it's like there's really no other subject like space then it's like well your guardian - yeah, like, you know a man's a heist man. I really like it's got superhero like it's, you know, it's in there like black panther afrofuturism. Yes for sure, you know, but it still has a lot of those beats. So like yeah, I'm for that stuff, but I don't necessarily know if it's going to be like horror break. Down specific tropes for I think well, I think audiences will only allow it for Superman Mmm Yeah, and I mean, I I'm very intrigued by the movie and who knows what it could spawn. But yeah, I agree. I think if you start falling into this trend of great, let's use this to deconstruct. Like let's make this the anti-everything superhero movie, you know, it's like we're going to do one for Iron Man and cap and Wonder Woman and Green Lantern into the low table then it's like great. Yeah. We're just milking this new thing and it'll just turn into like Earth. Re with the crime syndicate your psych eval Green Lantern evil Flash evil. You know what I want to see the bill to some Universe. I would rather what years would I think what you're I agree with this notion of like I would rather see that attempt at storytelling in this kind of stuff versus like okay the next Superman movie. We're going to deconstruct a deconstructs like stop just do Superman Superman just do it. Don't overcomplicate it. That's it. Wonder Woman simple beautiful. It's not trying to be like, here's a Wonder Woman is it we're going to subvert it like spider-verse got away with it because Spider-verse had a specific message, which was anyone can wear the mask designed to be able to tell that an animation all work together. Plus I think Spider-Man is a character. This had so many movies. Yes that was part of it that was part of the origin where you know, Peter be Parker was basically the Tobey Maguire version. So don't do that with everything like just just do Martian Manhunter, don't ya don't subvert it. Like I think when I see those, yeah, and I think we're at we're kind of at the point now where it's like with certain characters. I know we've gotten multiple iterations laws or Of stuff, but if you are doing a character that is part of a greater Universe, you need to build the building block of what makes that character that character and then maybe years from then once he's had his own Trilogy Where we can really establish like this is Superman's role in the connected DC Universe then I think there's a lot of room to play around with like what else can we do with this character? But yeah, I don't think we're kind of at the point right now where we can flip these characters upside down when we don't even know who they are on the first place. We need to build up to ya last thing we're going to touch on really The shazam movie has been having some screenings and man. It is getting some some really mix and praise. I'm excited the consensus out of all the things that I kind of just like went through really quickly consistent consensus on Shazam is another win for the DC for another one for DC a movie filled with humor action and heart with a strong family story at its core. It is in fact big meet Superman with plenty of references to the greater DC Universe, which we talk about is great while never losing track of its own story its sweet endearing and a great entry in the DC filters. Umm universe so that's just that's just what I wrote based on what I saw from everybody tweeting about so I continue to be super excited about this movie. It looks amazing the enthusiasm from the cast and David Sandberg. I love when David Sandberg trolls people on Twitter. It's my favorite thing. I love all those things that you know, isn't that what was the thing and said, why is Batman's belt yellow? Please tell me this is Ben Affleck's Batman. What was his answer for it? He said like I forget exactly what I'd like / - Or something like he always has like some creepy thing or he's done even like his own visual effects takes unlike when Billy Batson turns into Shazam Shazam is dead and he just like turns into anything. It's great. I love it. She's am dead. Yeah, so I am very very happy and excited that this seems to be another hit for DC. I think they are very much finding sort of their footing and they're figuring out what they're doing and like look if it takes a few solo movies for them to kind of figure out exactly how to treat this and all these characters right great at some point. I would really like to see Shazam and Superman in a movie. Yeah, you know, it doesn't have to be the next one but get us there eventually in the meantime. Yeah, like I'm just so happy that we had justice like in between I would say it's a hat-trick. It's not technically but to have three solo movies, you know one after the other after the other to be potentially huge hits. I'm very very happy to hear saying yeah, man, I was thinking about no one ever gonna see it probably Hopefully hopefully early next week, but I'm I think it that I think at the latest I am scheduled to go see it next Friday evening, which is pretty early and I'm excited about it. Damn. You know, I'm gonna get a town next week. I'm gonna be out of town. I'm gonna be in Vegas not like them will not be in Las Vegas. I will be in New York City because I'm going to be seeing this and then oh, you've seen your yeah. So because there it's an event. I don't know if I can say anything whatever. We'll see what happens. I hopefully get to go do it and go see Shazam. I've been Reading Shazam comics. I'm excited. I was thinking about this and a lot of people in reflecting on this. It is such a great time right now. It's really great. If you love these kinds of movies and stories Captain Marvel had a movie man and it came out. It's Carol Danvers Shazam got a movie dude your if it really is like for being fans of both of those characters in both of those like lineages. It's very cool that they're both happening. Yeah, like we're game for yeah, like we're getting them and now we're being super spoiled. Yeah. It's it's a thing that years ago, you know fans. Exam especially were like, it's just big with powers. Yeah do the movie, you know, but just do it and now it's happening in. Yeah, and it looks great like originally when we got that roster in 2014 and Shazam was on that list of movies. I got super excited as like, this is great. I've loved seeing this character and all the animated series and all the animated films and reading some of the comics and I thought like lot of a new 52 stuff was really cool. But also them using New 52 plus little Things here and there from the pre I like that attitude. I like that right David Sandberg seems like he really understood the essence of this character and thought like I can incorporate things from both sides just make a really fun movie. Then you have Zachary Levi headlining the whole thing and like now to I met him once yeah, and after talking with them for five seconds, I was like, this guy's perfect. He's so good. Yay. Okay, so great super excited cool guys. In the meantime, please go into the comments. Let us know about all the topics that we talk. About we went we Deep dive we did. Yeah, Devon all this stuff. There's a lot of really good stuff happening. Let us know what you think about the suicide squad casting Idris Elba where some other actors or characters you like to see in that movie. Ooh, maybe should replace Joel Kinnaman as Rick flag, or do you just leave the character out? Let us know your thoughts in the trench every single thing that we cover down in the comments below if you haven't subscribed yet. 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On this week's episode, James Gunn has begun assembling the new roster of Task Force X members that will comprise The Suicide Squad. Idris Elba is in talks to replace Will Smith as Floyd Lawton AKA Deadshot, while Dave Bautista may be joining the cast as Peacemaker, alongside new Squad members Polka-Dot Man, King Shark, and Ratcatcher. Margot Robbie is expected to return as Harley Quinn. Stephen Amell announced that the CW series, Arrow, will conclude after a 10-episode eighth season. The series, which spawned other DC tentpole shows like The Flash, Supergirl, and Legends of Tomorrow will air its final season starting this fall. Aquaman producer, Peter Safran, gave some more insight on The Trench spin-off, Aquaman 2, and how The Conjuring universe has influenced their approach to world of Atlantis. Batman is celebrating his 80th birthday in style this year, including a kick-off celebration at SXSW 2019 that will be spread across all mediums, including comics and TV. The brand new trailer for Brightburn debut and it begs the question if this will set off a new trend to deconstruct mythic characters like Superman, and others. Finally, the first social media review for DC's Shazam! are in, with many calling it the best entry in the franchise. 