Hi friends, welcome to the modern Mama's podcast where to Modern mama with the gold to inspire empowerment self-love deep physical and spiritual nourishment holistic health and Joy No Matter your journey gender or perspective. I'm Laura radical groups. I'm a certified cross the trainer certified nutrition consultant and Mama to Edie Wilder and I'm just Uphold the Space Wellness. I'm a level 1 Cross Fit trainer a license of certified athletic trainer with a master's in kinesiology and Mama to Baron Camille. Please note that while we're here to provide advice and insights. We aren't medical practitioners and always recommend that you check with the trusted provider before implementing any changes. Thanks for joining us or so happy you're here. Hey guys, welcome back to another episode of the modern Mama's podcast. It is just here and I have a really really special guest. I say that almost about every single guest that we have on I mean I really do but this one is highly anticipated. We have dr. Alana room L and I say your last name, right? Yes, you are. Good job. Hey, welcome to the podcast friend. Hey, thank you so much. You know, this is such an honor to be on your podcast because you know, Stephanie I so we host home mom has podcasts and so I think our Our audience is very similar. We share a lot of the same listeners. And so we obviously love to listen to your podcast. I'm sure just as much as you love to listen to ours. So this is just so fun to be a guest on your podcast. So it's a really an honor to be here. Thank you. I am so excited and I agree 100% It's kind of you know, it almost seems like everybody and their mom no pun intended is like doing a podcast. But at the same time, I really feel like this community of you know, Mama focused podcast is actually a lot smaller than you Realize and same to you guys. You guys are doing wonderful work love the topics that you guys bring and it's just it's amazing to have you on and bring your expertise to our little niche over here. Well, thanks, we're all about collaboration. We don't really believe in competition much because there's so much information to go around. So we're just so grateful for what you and Laura are doing and in all honesty. I kind of agree with you. I feel like there are a lot of podcasts out there and I think that we're growing in numbers with Mom focused ones. But for some reason they either kind of dwindle or you know, they're there they don't keep up as much but also its Hardware moms to so balancing a lot and putting out podcast is not the most simple straightforward thing. We were actually just talking about that right before hitting play on recording is there's a lot of editing that goes involved and scheduling and you know, just a lot that goes into it, but I think we're also passionate and committed to getting the messages out and we like creating Villages of moms to support each. After that, it's so well worth the time. I'm sure you and Laura can agree with that gosh 100% in all honestly. I also think that it can sometimes be hard to really create a space where it's truly kind of like a non-judgmental space and people feel heard and it's very kind of an unbiased, you know presentation of information and you guys do that. So well and I and that's been kind of first and foremost in our minds as we create content for the podcast and so I think that's really really unique. So you guys need to Pat yourselves on the back for that because it's a hard thing to nail. It's a really thanks. I really appreciate that acknowledgement. Yeah, that's very important to Stephen. I step actually is the one who really taught me that mostly because she's in she's really in such the world of content creation for these moms and she's really been a great example for me with that but I completely agree and I think you guys do great with that as well. Awesome. Well now that we got our lovefest out of them. Okay, I'm gonna have most of our listeners. Probably know who you are, but I'm going to give everyone a little brief bio on who you are what you do and why we're having you on the podcast today because you're a wealth of information. So for you guys who don't know. Dr. Alana Ramel is a naturopathic doctor with a passion for Pediatrics. She founded nourished Medical Center in San Diego, California in 2014 where she currently practices alongside a group of other naturopathic and medical doctors providing holistic care to the whole family. In addition to her private practice doctor Mel is a co-host of the Whole 30 sponsored. Pull Mama's podcast podcast episodes are weekly which give her the opportunity to share her knowledge stay up to date with new health topics and interview experts in the health field. Her intention is to empower parents with knowledge. So they are well-informed to make the best decisions for the health of their children with a love for teaching. She created med school for moms, which we are so excited to dive into more where she teaches mom's how to safely be a doctor mom. She loves to teach parents how to care for their children at home and equip them with the most effective tried and true natural. Remedies available for more information and to watch her free mini course, you can visit www.netsupportdna.com which we will link to in the show notes and you can also follow her on Instagram at dr. Alana Romel where she shares her journey as a mother and dr. From her kitchen to her medical office man life is just I mean, you're not busy at all. Are you, you know, just so funny because I don't think we often times hear our own bios being read very often and when I'm like listening to you, I'm like, oh my God, I'm so Busy, there's so many different hats that I wear but you know, I'm so passionate about this field and I'm I've just I've always known even as a student when I was in my medical school training. I always knew I wanted to Niche like it was something that was so attractive. I was never that kind of person that wanted to be a jack of all trades and master of none. I wanted to be a master at something and the minute. I became a mom and I was pregnant for the first time and I was just like embraced in this Village. Of motherhood. I just knew like this. Oh, I got the chills. Like this is the community that I want to serve and these are the little kids that I want to help and with my background on my personal story, which I'm sure we'll talk about in a little bit. It's just it's so aligned with who I am, which is really why I, you know decided to open up the medical center and why I decided to create the course I said to my husband the other day what goes on in my brain when I developed these kind of things is it Doesn't even feel like a choice like it feels like it's what has to be done. You know, like it's like I can't not do this. This is just the work that is meant to be happening in my life. And so I'm so called to do it and I'm so glad that I have the drive and the motivation and the organization to do it, but I am really excited just to have this second baby coming up in just a couple weeks actually as we're airing because it's going to really slow me down and and you know help me just reconnect back to really what my priority is. Life, which is my family and my own health so that then I can be there for other people and so slowing down is going to be so nice for me. And then and I'm really looking forward to that and then I get rejuvenated and then I get to help and kirino create more stuff for moms. And for kids, I love that and I will say from personal experience as someone I resonating with a lot of what you're saying. Obviously, I'm not a medical doctor. I was in the health profession before I kind of transitioned left out of that full-time, but my second kiddo first one she was kind of a process of learning to prioritize and learning to really relax a little bit too. I think kids are magical and that they kind of force you to slow down exactly what you were saying, but I'm super excited for you because I feel like a lot of my creative like energy and Direction really really emerged after the birth of our second kiddo. I don't know. I feel like there it's this, you know motherhood is this constant process of like shedding the old And like stepping into the new and so I'm just I feel giddy for you. Well think there's no question that what you said for me. I feel like every one of my children. So I've only had two so far. I'm about to have my second helps me create the next thing for what I'm out to creating for the world, you know, if first started with minors kids ebook and my nurse kids medicine kit when I first had a Vive and now with the second baby in this pregnancy, I've just been so So clear with the creation of med school for moms, and I feel like that's the gift. He's brought to my life and to into the world and I kind of said to my husband Anthony as I can't I don't know if we can stop because I know I have more in me. I think I'm probably gonna have to get pregnant a third time just to create like what's next and he just laughed at me. He's like, can you do without kick and you know, I was like, we don't know what's what's up for our future, you know, we're open to having more and we're also okay if we end up stopping after this one, so we're just going to give it some time. Pace ourselves, but there is definitely something that it for me and it definitely sounds like for you Jess and I'm sure so many of our listeners can relate is that there are I look at our children kind of like as armed use their people who have teach us so many lessons challenging ones for sure and also things that we may not have even known we had inside of us and so we actually birthed them and then birth a new person, you know with every labor that we go through and I think that is such a beautiful opportunity of growth in Expansion and service to the world. Oh, my gosh couldn't have said it better myself. That's amazing. Well, I can't wait. I'll be following along. We are like 98% done having children, but I can live well live vicariously through you. I love the 2% There's always that 2% in the background, you know, I'll be 36 this year actually in December and so it's kind of it's not that I feel like oh, I'm quote unquote too old or whatever. I feel nothing around that it's more just like there is A sense like our kiddos are three and six now and I'm like do I really want to go way back to the like the newborn? I know I get it. You know, I think it's important to honor that and you know have that discussion with your husband. So good luck with that, but it sounds like you guys are pretty firm would 98 is pretty strong. Yeah. Well, it's my husband Tim is the one who's like let's have seven. He's the one he's the one who wants to have more like a big heart. I know so sweet. He's way more patient than I am, but he's like and why don't you carry? Them and nurse them and stay up at night. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Maybe maybe you don't know on five years or so maybe dad's will be able to do all the hard work. So be awesome to have that shared. That's for sure. Okay before we dive in and just some you know, before we got, you know, I reached out and I was like, I've got to have you on I'm not really sure what that looks like, but I know your wealth of knowledge and I was thinking we would have a general direction for this podcast episode. But really when we did a Or questions, I think people just want to pick your brain. But also a lot of it was just around. How do we take you know this stuff that seems really hard to understand. You know, I think a lot of times the medical like medical community and Medical Care is kind of mystified and people really feel like they don't have the tools to you know, help themselves an illness or in health with you. You know what I'm saying? Like it feels hard and it feels Like something we can never understand and so I love your approach, especially with the creation of med school for moms and trying to really break down some intimidating Concepts and allowing regular old parents just like me to really I don't know care for their family. Yeah. Well, no, it was exactly my motivation is you know in practice. I just see mom's coming to me. So anxious about some things that are pretty minor and I just kept on thinking myself. There is no There's no shame in that there's no fault in that it's simply because they're not educated and I felt so privileged that I got to immerse myself in all this education for so many years and I really lent it to being a really calm confident mom when my kids got sick and I was like I shouldn't be the one that only has this information. You know, I don't like when moms are so dependent on their doctor for Assurance now there is a time and a place to use them their experts and it's important. That you know, they do come to us in times that they do feel like it's dangerous, but why not learn when it's important to go see the doctor and when you can really comfortably and confidently safely treat your child from home and not only is just so empowering but our kids get to see us in this light of like being like a hero, you know, and being like their nurturer and it's it's to me it's like a prerequisite it should be, you know, right for all the parents yet. There's never a manual or handbook for Seeing and I think the in its sap, it's not sad but it's inevitable our kids will get sick. It doesn't matter how vital or healthy they are or actually how chronically sick they are. They will all get sick at some point. And so I think it's just important that we all know our tools and if we don't then we're relying on the medical system, which are is very limited at times. So I had no choice and that's why med school for moms to me that name was like done like that's what it is. It's it's not medical school, so you're not coming. Hang out with like a degree or doctorate, you know in medicine, but you're definitely coming out of the program feeling calm competent and confident when your child gets sick because that's what I want for all parents. So whether it's a mom or a dad or a caretaker, I still Niche, you know Market it to Mom's because they're usually the ones who are most interested but it really could be for any caretaker and it's just an educational course where I really organize all of the material for you and my husband always told me that Ivan. If Dan organization I didn't actually appreciate that or realize that until he really pointed it out and I was like, I guess I do have like an F that and I like pretty things and I like charts and I like graphs and and I just wanted to make it as straight forward because it's already so busy as being a mom. It's overwhelming like there's enough things for us to choose every day all day. I wanted the material to be a straightforward and is easy as possible. So there are no more myths and it wasn't so intimidating and it was an easy thing for people to be like, okay, cool. I got this this awesome. Let's move on. Yeah, and I think you said organization, but I think there's this whole other overarching theme of information Organization for you to be able to take something that feels really complex like, you know illness or medical treatment and break down a complex idea into like actionable steps for like a lay person. That is a particular skill like because not everybody that can that does can actually teach right but for you to be able to do To teach I think that's just like phenomenal. That's a thanks. I appreciate that. There is a distinction with that. I agree and I love teaching it's I always said if I wasn't a doctor I'd be a teacher and I'm just so happy I get to do both essentially but that is true. I love taking complex topics and breaking it down for anyone to understand and you hear me? It's funny. My husband also laughed at me when I was like on the phone with said it was Sally me at this time now, it's not but this is where our school loans are. I literally would get on the phone. Phone and Mike. Hey, this is too complicated for me. So treat me like I'm in kindergarten and explain it to me. So I really understand where are my student loans and what's happening and I think that some people they do they just kind of talk over people's heads when it's not their field and I realized that for me to learn something. I do need it to be as simple as possible. Then I can add on the depth. So I think just for me that's my learning style. And so I like to teach it like that to other so thanks for that acknowledgement. I really appreciate it you Uh sure you're an expert not thanks debunking the experts stuff. So the for awesome. Yeah vaccines are probably the hardest and most complex. So I'm really proud of that course because that that was just an enormous amount of time and patience and you know to really break things down. But anyway, oh we go ahead. I know so many. No I was gonna say just real quick because you said vaccines. Is that part of the med school course, or is that a whole separate? Yes stop. The way that I created med school for moms is at originally I designed the curriculum to give you a whole overview of the mindset of being a doctor mom. So when is it important to really be fearful and when is it important, you know to go see the doctor or not and just like, how do we like get ourselves calm in order to make these decisions then I teach you the medicine. So the tools the conventional medicine the Natural Therapy so you actually know how to navigate and choose and if there are side effects to those medicines How do we like have solutions to those because there are solutions there's a time and a place for all medicine. So I love integrative medicines and then I have a Mastery course where I teach you / condition. So if your child has a fever let's dive into fever if your child is a cough dive into cough and we put it all together the mindset and the myths around cough and the medicines around cough. And then how do we Master this, you know, being a doctor mom and so as I designed the course, I realized look some people may not be interested in all of it. I feel confident that That if someone were to take all three courses they will Master how to be a doctor mom, but I you know, I wanted to be flexible. I wanted to be affordable so I decided all right, you could break up the courses if you just want one or the other or you can even get it some of them just in guidebook forms. So then let me wrap it up with my vaccine course the reason why then also out of the vaccine stuff was if a mom were to invest in all three of the courses that I throw in my vaccine course is like a free bonus because I'm like look if you're really investing. Self and truly becoming a doctor mom. You're going to want to know about vaccine. Yeah. So at that point that's kind of how that came to be and I just do so many vaccine consult in my practice. I am only one person and I only have so much time. So I just decided to do a presentation and then just record it. So if someone just wants a vaccine course, that's an option but the main goal is honestly to really feel confident about not just vaccines but everything that has to do with Pediatric Health or at least a good understanding. It's obviously not everything. Thing and so that's how the vaccine course kind of came about but I will be honest Jess and it's so sad, but I just hope that I can continue to offer my consult and continue to offer these online programs because in other countries like I just found out in Canada, you know, ND naturopathic doctors and even chiropractors. They they will actually have huge violations and even potential jail time for doing this kind of education which to me is just horrible and I couldn't believe Leave it. My jaw just dropped when I heard this and I was like, they're like at least you guys have freedom of speech and I was like, well, I feel like our rights are definitely being taken away in other ways. But yes at this point as long as I can educate believe me, I'm doing it so - I don't know how long that vaccine course is going to be available. But I'm hoping for a while. Okay. Well let the if you guys are even remotely interested in that information. You might want to jump on it. This is not a sales pitch, but I do feel like yeah. No, I'm daring real me. Yeah, I'm being real is in keep it up important. I mean not as so important and I think it's just it's an again before we dive into these questions. I want to also put out there. Dr. Ramel is not going to be able to give specific individual medical advice. Okay. So that's really the doctor-patient relationship. That's where that becomes established. But we're going to work through a lot of these questions in a general term. We do have some questions about vaccinations and her thoughts around it. So we're going to again it's going to be Pretty General and then if you want a deep dive, please please take advantage of the resources that she has created like the vaccine course our med school for moms, because there's only so much we can cover in an hour-long podcast episode and you've already done the work by creating that content and it's out there. So I just want to put that out do you feel comfortable with with that? Dr. Ramel? Yes. Thank you. I do appreciate it because I can only go into so much depth in interviews and podcast. So I just love that. Hey if you want more there's resources, so they're covered. Third and thank you for creating all those resources. So before we dive in I want to hear more about your story, you've given us some bits and pieces but we'll kind of set aside some real time for you to dive into I want to know how you got here. Why your passion about the work you do? What was med school? Like, I mean all everything that you want to share before we really get into the Q&A stuff because I think it's just fascinating to me your story and I would love to hear thanks. Okay. I'll try to make it brief because I do want to get into all your audience questions, but if you go to my website under my bio Really touching video. I swear. I feel like I cry every time I watch that video. It was like a One-Shot done deal because it really is Meaningful to me, but I'll centrally share when I was young. I had a brother who was only two years younger than me. I was very close to him and he died suddenly of an asthma attack. He had really bad. Asthma really bad allergies bad eczema. And although this is a very uncommon occurrence for kids with asthma so for any mom listening who has a child with asthma this is not very common. - but it does happen and he had a really severe attack when we were having some wildfires here in California and the part. I mean we had ashes just like raining from the sky the week he went into a coma. So I think it just irritated his lungs beyond measure and he couldn't breathe and he went into a coma and he stayed in a coma for seven days and then we took him off life support and he died and eat completely shifted Mike. Prince of my world, I mean Not only was I at a loss because I just lost one of my best friend's I was a big tomboy and I loved playing with him. He was my little buddy, but I also saw what it did to my parents and it really completely shook them up. I mean as you can imagine now as mom's ourselves you just that's the worst thing you can ever experience is losing a child and so at a young age, I was 9 at that point. I really matured pretty quickly and I became very dedicated. Dedicated to learning about health and wellness for a few reasons one. I didn't want that ever to happen to another family member. I kind of went into this like protection mode where I almost felt like I wanted to protect my other sisters and my parents and myself and a lot of it was because I knew that if my parents had another loss like if one of my sister's or myself were to pass I don't think they would even survive the like to survive two children. So I kind of did everything I could to be as healthy as possible. I didn't want to die because I I knew they couldn't go through it and suffer. And I also was just interested because I never wanted that to happen to another family member nor one of my children one day. I knew I wanted to be a mom. So from a very young age, I just immerse myself in books and you know knowledge and obviously it's a huge Journey now, I'm in my, you know, mid-30s so it's been many years of doing research and it really called me to go to naturopathic Medical School actually and not the traditional medical school route, even though I had the choice and I was really considering it. It mostly because I knew that I wanted more options for these kids. I knew that my brother was on every traditional medicine he could be on and he still didn't survive and I knew like there had to be more ways. So what I love about naturopathic medical schools that were taught both the conventional therapies and natural therapies, and I love that I get to give my patients the choice because at the end of the day I can let them know what I think may be best. But then at the days Parents Choice when it comes to their kids and I fully support that I just want them to have the knowledge and feel empowered to make those choices. So that's the route. I took and all along. I knew I wanted to Niche at some point. I just didn't feel ready to Niche until I was a Mom myself. I'm kind of felt like I can't really like speak. Like I'm Stephen I always say this a lot like we practice what we preach like once we incorporate in our lives. That's when we're so passionate about really teaching this stuff so I couldn't wait until that I did General medicine for many years, but I wasn't as Fulfilled I knew I loved working with the kids and the moms and so like I said once I became a Mom myself, it was just a no-brainer. I stop booking all adult patients. I want to just straight into kids and pregnant women and I've absolutely loved it since and I really have a lot of Hope for our future generation because I see a lot of proactive parents and a lot of sick kids, but I see them how well they get, you know, kids are so vital and if we could just give him the right nutrients in the right support in the right environment, they really could Thrive and so I absolutely have so much faith in our future generation and what we could do now and so I'm really on a mission to help parents learn that and really avoid what happened in my family with my brother and it all honesty support parents through some of these traumatizing events because the parents reaction to these type of stressors really affects all of the kids, and I know that personally so working with the parents and the kids both is a passion for me not just one or the other ER oh my gosh, that's well. I was in tears when you were talking about your brother. I just I have two younger sisters myself. And so I just I can imagine how that impacted you and I just I'm so grateful that you channeled channel that grief into something that is has the potential to help so many people so just I don't know. I'm just admire you so much you're all things that that difficulty for sure motivated my passion. There's Question, that's why with all traumas then and losses. I just look at them and I look for all the gifts in it and there are so many gifts if you can really just look deep down. So he's my gift in that. He's my muse. I call him and my total inspiration. So I love him so much and he's fully within everything I do with med school for moms. So that's that. So thanks for that acknowledgement as well. I almost cry every I pretty much every episode of here. So thank you. So we'll just knock that one I car thinking. It's awesome. Hi friends Laura here with some exciting news for stigmatic has come on as a modern Mama's podcast sponsor. 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Why are you answering these questions as really really important so Dive in okay, so lots and lots and lots of questions about I think and I'm going to preface this before we truly go and it's like we prepare so much for pregnancy and even delivery that sometimes when kids get here and now we have them and we're like What do we do with this child? It's a lot of questions about like, what do we do when XYZ what about this? And so I myself even with two kids and really really excited about some of the answers that were going to be prepared to hear so Okay, first question should you wake a baby / toddler a night to check if their fever has broken or risen? Okay. This is such a common question. So I love it. Whoever asked the answer is no so the body heals during times of rest. And so that's a really important factor. So we obviously don't want to disturb our child if your child is so uncomfortable. The child will wake up and so believe me you will get those signs crying and whatnot. It is very Very important to understand why fever is a really really amazing natural process that we actually want to harness and not suppress. You know, I think most moms who are listening are already pretty proactive, but I don't think a reminder can her essentially a fever is not a disease or or an illness. It's just a symptom saying that the body is trying to fight off either a virus or a bacteria. And so we want the body's temperature to rise so that the virus bacteria doesn't live in that environment. It's an amazing mechanism to kill the bug so we don't want to suppress it too much because we obviously want the bugs to die. But we also don't want to cause too much discomfort in our child. So one of the biggest fears is could my child's temperature be too high and what if it can cause brain damage or what if a febrile seizure occurs are or what? If so then you know where call to wanting to wake them up for some peace of mind and a Of that is mostly for the Peace of Mind of the parent. But here's the big kicker is that the number that you see on the thermometer is not going to affect anything that you do. So what's the purpose of knowing that thermometer the the number on the thermometer? What's the purpose of getting that temperature? So I teach this extensively in my fever courses, but essentially your child's temperature can go up to 108 degrees Fahrenheit. So that's 108 .00. Okay, not one. 100.8 without any brain damage occurring. Okay. Now this is very infrequent. You don't usually see fevers above 105 106, you know by 105 or 106 that child is incredibly hot incredibly uncomfortable. They're going to show other signs of distress. So you're not even near 108, but I'm just trying to give mom's an understanding of checking the temperature is not going to really help you do all that much different if you were to call it. Doctor and say hey, my child's temperature is X number. The next question we're going to ask is OK what other accompanying symptoms does your child have so as doctors, we actually care a lot more about the accompanying symptoms and the pattern of the fever more than the actual number and I'll go into those kind of details but once again for you to wake up your child just to take his or her temperature doesn't really give us all that much information and it's not going to give you any more information and either being scared or not the child sleeping then they're obviously not in discomfort or pain or they're sleeping. So please let their immune systems do the work let them sleep and for you to feel calm you're going to have to do something for yourself, you know, because that not but that's a huge factor and children pick up on her anxiety and our nerves so you can actually exacerbate their symptoms simply by waking them up getting panicked about a number that may or may not Not actually be accurate or worry you and then you suppress the fever and now their symptoms are actually going to last longer. So my answer to that is no don't wake up you're sleeping child, but there's one caveat in that I care if there's any fever in a newborn or I should say a zero to three month old child. So a newborn to three months of age. I care much more if there's a fever now if it's a zero. To one month, so you only have literally the first like four weeks of a child's, you know life if that child has a fever anything which is above a hundred point four degrees. It's an immediate ER visit now at that point, they're nursing all night long. Anyway, it's not like you have to wake them up. I mean you're already with them all the time. Anyway, if you needed to take their temperature, you're really not having to necessarily wake them up now if it's a one two three month old, then you want to call your doctor at the very least and get an idea of I take them to the ER should I stay at home? What should I do? But then once that child turns 3 months or older, you know, that's it. It doesn't actually matter the number it really matters much more the signs the patterns than companying type of symptoms that come along with it. Is that clear gesso not make sure that's just that's incredibly clear and I think that also kind of hits our second question, which was when should we really call or see the doc for example, they said extant for X hours or XYZ symptoms. So winter wheat Really, so I'll be very clear about that. So we already now went through what to do with the zero to three month old. So anything with the zero to three month old. Do you do want to act much quicker? Ok, but any child three months and older here's what you're going to look for. Okay. The first thing is signs of dehydration when a child's temperature is really high. That's a very common occurrence is that they they lose fluids there either sweating because of you know, the chills and sweats or or they're just not like their appetite is low. They're not drinking. I'm very much so dehydration is actually probably worse off than the actual fever. So you want to look for how many wet diapers you want at least three wet diapers or more in 24 hours. So anything less than three wet diapers and if a child's older I obviously just take a look at you know, how often they're peeing but it's really interesting the more you keep your child hydrated the quicker the fever will actually not necessarily break, but at least give them some relief because cooling down the body with that hydration is very important. So more dehydrated the longer the fever will last the other thing is obviously look for your kids mood. So you're looking for if they're listless or lethargic or just not responding obviously it you know, if they don't know who you are or their their mood is just acting so weird. Of course, that's anything anytime you're their child's mood is off. You're going to go ahead and and call the doctor that's with anything with cough or sore throat or whatever if they're just not acting like themselves. It's one thing to be tired and just want to be lazy and On the couch and watch TV. It's another thing to have like hallucinations or just look like they're just so like listless, you know, and so moms have intuitions parents have intuitions when that's abnormal. That's a good sign. Another thing is your child is just inconsolably crying. I mean nothing is helping no nursing no rocking no music. No, you know anything shush young and nothing is helping this child then of course, it's time to talk to your doctor the Or you know common things I would say an older children would be fever that's accompanied with a rash a sore throat without a cough or severe ear pain. And again, you guys want to write all these notes. I mean, it's all outlined in my guidebooks and my material but it's just nice to kind of have some reference to be like, okay does my child have this this and this like, let's just check them off. If you can check something off. Then you go to the doctor. If you can't check it off then you just know. Okay cool. My child doesn't have a sore throat without a cough and a fever so then Co I can just stay home? Okay, my child has a fever with severe ear pain. Okay, it's time to go to the doctor. And then just the last one is a stiff neck. This is also very rare but a sign of meningitis. So if your child has a high fever and you can see they're either holding their neck, they don't want to move their neck down. They don't want to put their chin down to their chest. You also know that that's a sign. So I just have these really clearly listed out of my guidebook. So you guys have don't have to memorize them. Obviously. I have them all memorized but you again just kind of go down the check box list and you know, okay, it's time to go. Go or all right. Well, my kids not having any of those things. So I guess we can just stay home and keep on going. Perfect. I think that really wraps that one up really really well. Gosh, I am still learning so much. I'm nodding my head a long as you're talking. So this is going to be so amazingly helpful for so many people so kind of leaning into now. Okay, we know when to seek help another really really great question was what would be your top three items in a natural medicine cabinet for may be treating things like fever or Flu think things just sure so that's tough because I have so many favorite you put up more than the cool thing is that some of my go-to S. For example, like fish oil probiotics like those are things you can get in food. So I'm not even going to include that in my list because if it were up to me kids would be eating these things in food to help their immune system and their gut health and all of that good stuff. So let me choose and three that I feel like younes you can't really get from food that I think every dr. I'm should have in their medicine cabinet. So these are immune stimulating herbs or nutrients. So I when I teach about medicine, I divide different medicines or natural medicines into three categories Homeopathy herbal medicine and health food supplements. So they're all these Ages which is easy to remember and out of my top three in the medicine kit. I would actually choose to herbal medicine products and one health food supplement now, I'm a absolutely in love with Homeopathy, but there are just far too many to choose from So that's a whole nother episode but let's go through then the to herbal medicines and then the health food supplement. The first one is elderberry. I cannot talk more about Elderberry and I do I talk so much about Elderberry their reason why I like it is that it's an antiviral medication 7 a potential child hood illnesses come from viruses, not bacteria. And so this is just the common cold flu or hand foot mouth or chickenpox or you know, I mean look at so many different viruses that we can have and so we want something that can really help kill a iris Elderberry taste good. It's affordable. You could even make this at home if you really really want it to be on a budget. I just get such great results with this. It's something you could take as a preventative medicine and then if your child does get sick you increase the dose. So I just think it's hands down one of the best products to have in a medicine kit. If you do have a child, I love that. We second one herbal medicine. I'm sure right. I mean so many moms who are interested natural mess and they already know about Elderberry syrup. So Probably isn't a new one, but it is important and just as a quick tip. If you do have a child under one you want to avoid the ones with honey because there are some that are sweetened with honey. And so just as that FYI, and please note the gummy elderberries. They just are not anywhere as potent as the syrup. So if you feel like oh, I've been giving my child to Elderberry but nothing's happening. It's very important that you're checking the dosage and the frequency with any natural medicine and I explained that in all my courses how to effectively actually use these Okay, so the second one is echinacea. This is another herbal medicine. The reason why I'm choosing echinacea is that one it's obviously very safe in the Pediatric population along with pregnancy and nursing all of these are but what I like about echinacea is that it can kill both viruses and or bacteria. So sometimes you don't know, you know, we don't know is that runny nose coming from a virus or a bacteria if we're only using Elderberry syrup and it's from a bacteria. Well, maybe it's not going to be the most effective medicine whereas if you add Echinacea and Then you know you're getting a broad spectrum type of herbal medicine. So I personally think having echinacea on hand in your medicine kit is very helpful. I have a brand that I like that is on the sweeter side because it sits in a base of Glycerin. Otherwise, you don't want to just go and get any echinacea. It's usually in an alcohol form. So kids won't take it. So anyway, go ahead to my website. You can see all my favorite stuff. And then the last one is a health food supplement. So this is a nutrient. I'm sure everyone knows it's called vitamin D like Dog D. This is just something that even newborns in standard of care or recommending so this is a nutrient that is incredibly important for the immune system. And for those who are deficient in this which is unfortunately a huge part of the population. They're much more susceptible to getting sick. And so we want to give this daily to prevent illness and just to really boost overall immunity and then also we can go up and dose if your child is sick, but again, there's regulations around the toxicity. So you want to be a little bit careful work with your practitioner with that. Perfect. And do you recommend having the K2 as connections funny? I was thinking I should just mention I didn't want to confuse it because you only said three I pray I always recommend D&K together. It's hard to find a liquid dropper a vitamin D and K in a small dose for kids less than 12 months. So for less than 12 months. I just say you could do just the D. But once you had 12 months, you can get a good dose pretty much standard dosing below 12 months is anywhere between 400 to 800 IU. I use a day and then once your baby hits 12 months or older you can go to up to a thousand I use and that's where at least my favorite liquid droppers. They started a thousand I use per drop. So that's when I start doing the vitamin d k 2 combo perfect. That's amazing. Oh my gosh, and you know, I think this is really helpful. I know it's a challenge to narrow down to three but it's like sometimes we can get so I'm like, okay everyone line up for your daily supplements and it's like 22 different things, you know too much. I totally agreed. That's why I I owe my website. There's a whole medicine category. It's all free information for moms. You can download my free guides where it's like here are the top favorite homeopathic remedies and I think I listed Seven here. I think it is and then here's my seven top health food supplements and here are my seven top herbal medicines and they're free guides. They're not even there. You don't even pay for our but it's just a matter of so moms can just really start narrowing down like okay. Here's a child. This is what I need. Which one should I start with? Is it is overwhelming and it's not only overwhelming it can be very costly and the body doesn't need so much. You know, it's too much at times some people just go way too overboard. It's a beauty of natural medicine is our toolbox is incredibly large. We have so many options and that can also be a problem. So there's a time and a place for everything and I also believe that every individual reacts differently. I have some children in my practice that they react so quickly to Homeopathy. I don't even need to touch or herbal medicines or Food supplement and then there's some kids that really do so much better with the herbal medicines and I kind of don't do as much Homeopathy because I just don't see that quick reaction. So again, it's just such a beautiful thing that we have so many different medicines and this is where I say, it's up to the mom to get to know your kids to be observant to practice and to really get to know what works for your child. And what doesn't and again child one may be completely different than child to and as challenging as that may be it's also the UT of our kids, you know no two are alike and we should honor that so it's the same thing when it comes to medicine that's incredible. Thank you so much. I love that perspective. I'm also going to so if you feel like you've some of these may be a repeat of information if you feel like you've hit most of that or you just want to add a couple things to what you've already said feel free to do that the next question and really centers on natural cold and flu remedies / immune boosters. This person's put was particularly asking for 18 months old, but we also have some follow-up questions to that like what can Is for kids under a year old who have a cold or there any go to Safe herbs to use with kids with common colds? Would it be the right now? It's a great question. So here's like the general rule of thumb is for any child less than six months of age. I shy away from most natural medicines. So that includes herbal medicines and health food supplements except for Homeopathy. So if you have a child 0 to 6 months of age, I would say really Focus on your homeopathic remedies if your child is now 6 months or older. They're starting to consume solid foods their gut is matured a little bit more their immune system is starting to mature. You can safely give them some of the obviously pediatric approved safe herbal medicines and some of the health food supplements that I outlined because not all of them are safe, but I go ahead and I teach you the ones that are safe in the dosing and such the great thing with Homeopathy is that it really is safe and it doesn't matter on the age or stage. Each of the child or even mom nursing pregnant. It doesn't matter. It's more of a type of energetic type of medicine and I like to put in the same category as like acupuncture when you go get acupuncture, you know, you're getting needles throughout your body. And so it's stimulating your body to heal on its own. It's not that like those needles are doing something to specific biochemical Pathways and they're pushing different Pathways to either inhibit or to proceed or it's not like that. It's just stimulating the D to heal very similar Homeopathy when you get that right remedy. It just stimulates the body to heal. So it's very safe. If you don't get the right remedy. Well nothing really happens. It's the same thing with acupuncture if you put the needles in the wrong place or have you maybe put too many needles in your not going to get necessarily a negative reaction like you would with a conventional medicine kind of side effect. It just may not do the healing that you know, if the noodles were in the correct place, so I don't do acupuncture with kids. So instead I do Homeopathy with them. So to answer the question. Turn on you know, if your child is sick before six months you always go to your homeopathic remedies first, if your child is six months or older you now have a bigger toolbox. You could still use Homeopathy and or you can now add some of the herbal medicines that I taught or even the health food supplement like vitamin D. And again, my list just goes on everything on the website will just continue to teach you more and more immune type of products out there as well. Can you maybe give one or two? Like remedies that you tend to gravitate towards and use over and over again. Sure. Well arnica is probably the number one and that's the one that probably most people know worldwide. In fact Homeopathy is much more popular in Europe and Germany and I mean much more than here in the United States when anyone travels to Europe, you'll see homeopathic pharmacies and apothecaries. So arnica is used for any type of bumps bruises injury. It could be minor it could be major. So that was actually one of I wanted to say my top three in my medicine. It but again, I just I can only have so many but arnica is literally something I take out I take with me in my purse out like I don't leave home without it and because our kids fall they get them. So, I mean, it's just this is what they do. Now. I wouldn't put this in the category of it like it an illness per se but these are injuries and they're still medical, you know, they need medical attention. And so I just find that the recovery is so much greater. The the bruising has absolutely decreased giving Arnica at immediate onset and it also really just helps the tears. I mean, I've been so grateful that at this point my daughter I she is excited when she falls because she comes right to me and says, you know, she knows she gets her medicine. She thinks it's like the best thing ever. So that really helps just you know it with her mood, but that's just one example of arnica. So or I'm sorry of Homeopathy. So Homeopathy are the little pellets in the either blue or purple little cylinders. We would often see at a health food. Bob store and you're like looking at them like what are these things and you see there dozens? I mean there are thousands of different medicines or homeopathic medicines. I teach again the top seven that I think all moms should know and and again it's so individualized that it's hard for me to even say well, oh and I use this or I use this like the other day my Aviva had constipation. She never has constipation. She was struggling getting her little poop out. So I gave her a remedy called nux-vomica Next vomica is a homeopathic remedy that Syndicated for constipation when a child or an adult is extremely irritable and impatient and Moody and that's how she was it is. So unlike her to be like that and so I gave her that remedy and I saw she at least pooped within that you know, right after I gave her that dose is still was uncomfortable for her. But at least we got it out, but this is when I say is it's not like nux vomica is only indicated for constipation. There are at least 50 more remedies that I could have chosen for constipation, but I have to assess it. Some that individual presentation. And so this is where you really have to keep your eyes open and your ears alert because any type of mood change or any type of like sign or symptom that you can observe will help you actually know when natural medicines are indicated. So it's a little bit more work on our end. But the the joy of seeing them get better is just so cool. So I have a private Facebook group that I have moms join after they enroll in any of my courses are guidebooks so I can continue to teach them all. The different medicines, you know, I highlight the ones that I love the most in med school for moms, and it's definitely the place to start you have to start somewhere. And again, I've got those free guides on the website, but then there's always going to be continued learning I name the group mom's mastering medicine because there is it takes years of practice just like for a doctor it's a practice for a reason and so every year we just learned more and more and more and we have to practice it and so I just continuously teach you all the different medicines, but the the Horses are obviously in the guidebooks are where you started. Oh my gosh. I'm just like immediately going to go run and purchase the core. I am so excited and again, like I know we can only really scratched the surface and we're already we've already been talking for like 40 minutes, which is incredible to me, but I didn't realize how the time I know you're keeping track. No, I'm keeping track. I mean I could chat with you for hours about this, but I just I feel like again I want to remind our listeners like we're barely scratching the surface here and there's so much to be learned and I'm I'm so grateful that you have the resources in place for that would so my pleasure. Just maybe we'll have to do a second episode at some point. Maybe after I had my baby and things settled down for me solutely. Well, I'm going to try and squeeze in a few more if yet go, please no problem. And one of the questions was best comprehensive guide for parents to be I'm just going to go ahead and answer that and say that's cool for moms. And everything on your site is probably the best comprehensive guide at least for these types of questions. I can't I have not come across in my searching any other program really so All-inclusive and so well done. So I'm gonna answer that question for us. That's awesome. Well, thank you. So this one again, this is a little bit of a tricky subject. But I would love to hear your your general thoughts on flu shots for kiddos or in general. However, you want approach that. I know we talked about this a little bit before you came on, but she sure whatever you say. Okay. Again, this is a little bit of a tricky topic because now we're going into vaccines and the way that I like to approach vaccines. Is that I take the individual child's risk of exposure to a disease and I weigh it with the individuals child potential for an adverse reaction to a vaccine. And so with anything when it comes to Medicine, there should be informed consent. So that parents understand there is a risk and then there's a benefit and we have to weigh it and we have to kind of figure out the balance so that we know what the appropriate measure is for our child. So the flu is definitely something that every year comes around. Anytime between November to April. So this is a big time. This is like a six-month period unfortunately and it could hit and it's very contagious and it's not an shock to me that there is immunization for it. I think it's a you know, it was a good idea the whole concept of trying to avoid it because you don't want to get the flu. It's not comfortable. It's not fun and in very susceptible individuals. Some people can die from it. These people are usually elderly or these people are the very very very young. Young or immunocompromised individuals with that said, of course, we want to protect our kids. So I think no matter what we all can agree whether it's a vaccine or it's some other kind of protection. We all just want to be aware of it and protect and this is why hand-washing is so important and you know eating really healthy foods boosting the immune system and such now when we go to really looking at what the flu vaccine is, and the effectiveness of it is really where I see I kind of I'm stopped by a So there's really good studies out there on the flu vaccine. It's been out for quite a while every year there are different strains that are chosen and it's essentially a guess of which strain do we think this year's flu is going to be and so once they decide that then they go ahead and they manufacture the flu vaccines for the year. Then they release it at the best year the most effective we've ever seen. The flu vaccine to be is a high of 30 percent some years. Is it could be as low as in the 20s or even less some years. It could be up to 30 that means 3 out of 10 people who get the flu vaccine. We could be sure that they would be protected the other seven out of 10 who get the flu vaccine. It will not be effective at all with that information. I think that's important to go with so we know do we give our child the flu vaccine or do we not give our child the flu vaccine because you have to be ready for even if you The flu vaccine or any vaccine for that matter your child's can still mount a response and still be susceptible to an infection. So you have to still do these other measures in order to be proactive because you really never know if they're going to get it or not. Okay. Just want to make that very clear then when you think about well, what else can we do to help prevent the flu? The awesome thing is is that with natural medicine. There are tons of antiviral medications in the conventional world of Listen, there are very few antiviral medications. And in fact, the very few that we have are also unfortunately pretty ineffective their anti bacterial type of medications, which are antibiotics have been proven to be very effective and there's definitely a time and place for antibiotics. So when it comes to a virus like a flu, there's very few options and which is why conventional medicine pushes a lot of the flu vaccine because it really is one of their only options to help prevent the disease and so as a doctor you want to give whatever tools you Have and so for me is an integrative doctor. I have so many tools and part of my toolbox are natural medicines and because I believe in them and I know how effective they are. I err on the side of wow, if I can just give our children the most potent antiviral medication not only to prevent the disease, but also if they got the flu, I know and I feel confident about how to treat them then I guess I'm not all that afraid of having the flu. So I start questioning. It is the flu vaccine more beneficial or less beneficial for that individual child. So again, I'm not giving advice I'm not going to tell you what to do. I'm just giving you guys options to know what to do. I think there are there is a time and a place for a flu vaccine in certain health care workers or certain situations in certain age populations, like the elderly perhaps or you know, these are people who are not mounting as quick of a response. I believe in our kids immune systems and I The natural medicine if given appropriately and effectively it is something that I trust. So I'm going to just end at that because I can't give you no advice on that. But I think that that was pretty clear at least how to go about trying to figure that out. Yeah, and I think you're really just speaking to the fact of as parents. I think one of our the biggest things that we can do for ourselves is to empower ourselves with education on questions like these and knowing that you know, everything is so individual and for me, it's it's not really questioning my health care providers recommendation. It's also just but also like not necessarily blinding blindingly accept. What is may be recommended. This is personal. This is just my personal how we view things like this but it's always like you said, I want to know the efficacy of this. I want to know are there other things that we can do like, what are the outcomes of my child at this age gets the flu like so I really love that you're saying like you as a practitioner Are going to weigh all of those things for each individual child that comes into your office. Excellent. I'm so glad you summarized it like that because one of the things I teach in med school for moms is that in my mind doctor moms have an amazing relationship with their pediatrician that means that they're asking questions. That means that they're proactive that means that they're part of the treatment plan the not just like a passive participant that's just watching and ready and taking everything that the doctor says as if they're God it's not the case. Case you know as doctors, we have opinions. We have our personal beliefs we have days that we miss something. I mean, right we're human too. And I just believe as a doctor Mom. It's very important that we come with knowing that we're participating in this which means that hey doctor I need the education asked like take advantage of those doctors visits ask these questions understand all the information legally as doctors were supposed to be providing informed consent. Unfortunately doesn't happen all too often when it comes to Ames and it's just the state of how it's gone, but you still have to ask for that and if you do then have this discussion and then you can be educated. So I love that. So thanks for the reminder with it. Absolutely. And I'm now since we're coming down to the I know we have a time crunch here. I kind of I'm gonna have to make executive decisions on a Romanian questions, which is so hard for me. We did get some questions about vaccinations current vaccine schedule. I think I'm going to I feel like In talking about the flu vaccination you have kind of summed up a general approach. And I know you have a resource for that right? Like the your yes. Okay. Is there anything you want to add about engine? Oh, I mean honestly, there's just too much probably to talk about I've done other podcasts on it. So maybe you can refer to those or even I mean, obviously the vaccine course is very rich in that but no there's I think that's pretty much the biggest some as I just like to assess the child individually and I go How to really understand the different risk of exposure and risk of adverse reaction and then we come up with a plan and then that's something that you know, the parents ultimately choose. So now I feel like we at least got through a quite a bit. But I also I guess want to say I do encourage pre-imposed detox plans for before and after vaccinations whether a child is at risk for adverse reactions or even not you know, we might as well be proactive. These can start as young as the two-month, you know starting. With vaccines and I just think that that's something that would be of interest to a lot of parents I love and that's that, you know, it's part of the course. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's expensive in my course. I love that so much because we personally have a few things that we do as well. I mean just in general detox stuff. And so I think that is really really important to know. Okay, so a couple more okay, this is a little bit different spend. What are your top couple tips for super picky eaters who are maybe below their quote unquote ideal weight. You have any go twos? Oh my goodness. Yes. I love this topic because I mean it's just so common. I guess here are just a few quick tips. If your child is not eating more than five to ten different types of foods that I absolutely think that they need an assessment from an occupational therapist who has an expertise in feedings, like specialty, you know, I don't think a lot of moms know that this is even an option oftentimes a when I work with parents with picky eaters. They don't even know that that service or that therapy is even something relevant. It's often times when this these children are literally so limited with the number of foods. It's a texture. It's a sensory issue. It's something that is much more holistic than just being picky and saying sorry don't want that. They actually have a not like a nervous system response to textures and some of these foods that they cannot eat it and that's actually going to then overlap into other behavioral issues and developmental Milestones later in life. So you actually want to get in on that ASAP. So that's my number one tip if the The they're just so limit. They won't touch posture. They won't even touch a sauce because it's just the texture of it as they don't like it in their mouth or they won't even touch a whole food category like meat or something. So keep an eye out for that. The other thing is just don't give up. I find a lot of mom's being frustrated and I completely understand but it's actually shocking but the research shows that with some picky kids. It could take up to 30 times of introducing the same food for a child to be like, okay cool. I'm going I eat it and I mean that is just ridiculous and it seems so wasteful but I just like to encourage moms to try one, you know type of food at a time and cook it in all different ways. So taking a carrot you can boil it. You can roast it. You can dip it in hummus. You can give it raw you can slice it. You can shred it right? There's just so many different ways to prepare and there may be a child who's like I only like shredded raw carrots and that's what the hell eat. I mean again, that's not necessarily ideal because we don't want short-order Cooks. I just want to give you that statistic or that data point that it could take a long time and just don't give up on it, you know place it in front of that Child's Play and if they just don't touch it, they don't touch it. Then don't make a big deal out of it. I think a lot of it also is will make big deals or will try to force our kids to eat certain foods. I love the principle behind, you know you as a mom or a parent are in charge of maybe preparing the food cooking the food and then placing it in front of the child and putting it down wherever You want the controlled environment to be and then it goes to the child. The child now is in control over how they're going to eat it and what they're going to eat and the quantity of their eating and that's just going to be up to them. And if they choose not to eat it. They don't want to eat it. They don't want to do it. Well, then sorry you go to bed. And then that's that, you know at some point you're going to be hungry, but you can't just be a short-order cook. You can't just give in to okay, then you get pizza again or macaroni and cheese again, and that's all they're going to eat because they're very smart kids. They'll Keep on doing that. So these are just a few tips to kind of help you again. I could do a whole episode just on this but I do think it's important to try your best to kind of keep to a routine and keep to your rules because these and it is a big deal that kids are just starting to be incredibly picky and we just have to differentiate. Is it a biological or censoring neurological type of response and then that needs something like occupational therapy or is it because the kid is just almost Just like running the show and denying food. And now you're cooking whatever they're going to eat because you're so afraid they're actually not going to gain weight or they're not eating because they have a way of manipulating us in many ways. And so we can't give into that. You know, we have like, well this is what's for dinner. And that's it. It could take them one or two days for them to say. Okay. Now I'm hungry. I'll sit down to eat but we can't be fearful. We have to trust their body and say they're going to eat at some point. So if they go to bed and they're not going to eat what you want. Well, then tomorrow then they're just going to be hungry and they will I promise they will eat at some point. He got to just keep on trying giving them nutrient-dense options and someone on Instagram. I just think is fantastic. I've been following her now. She's blowing up is kids eat in color. It's a registered dietitian who gives you so many great examples of how to present food to Children how to make it colorful so that they want to eat it how to actually use language so that you're only honoring them and not, you know, having them shy away from it. So I use that resource. Is a lot this is a it's a great dietitian who's been doing great work kids eat in color. Okay, we will definitely link to that and I might have seen something that she put out where you're talking about. Like we actually implement this in our own family. It's like, you know this like purple food makes you feel makes your brain like strong or like red foods make your muscles feel really really strong like kind of connect it and language that like, they understand and we have yes. Yeah like it's so much. It's so much more. Double and then I will also say literally my kids are three and six and they will eat they eat a variety of vegetables but yet last night at dinner. I put roasted brussels sprouts and roasted carrots on my daughter's plate and she up to this point has really been like I'm not interested in that and so it's like okay whatever but we still put it on our plate at least a few bites every time and last night. She was like, I love brussels sprouts. I love carrots and she was asking for more and I'm like what is happening? And so I mean three Ears in we're still still offer makes me so happy. That's like my point of just don't give up. That's exactly what I keep on recommending is you just put on their play if they don't eat it. They don't eat it. But there's going to be a day that they may pick it up and you're going to be shocked just like you were last night and then all of a sudden the kid change their mind and now they keep on asking for it. So don't give up on that opportunity, you know, really stay committed that like my kid will eat healthy food at some point. It may take three years, but whatever I'm not going to give up. And I think a big deal and I know you do this in your family's just role model, you know have them watch you eat salads have them watch you enjoy, you know, the the Brussels sprouts and and good healthy food. And I'm so against kid food. I just I wish it never existed. I wish it was never even any topic of that nature, you know, they just we we serve them what we eat. We eat what they eat. It's all just a family affair. And that's that and so I just I think that's great. So anyway again, I could talk about this forever. Oh, yeah. It is it's a very important topic and one that is not easy. So, I just want to mention that and I also have a lot of high hopes that things can transition the earlier you start if we're talking about a 13 year old boy, that's a very different type of therapy and how we handle that then if it's a two-year-old, you know, you still have tons that you can still Implement in a younger child and the earlier you start these new patterns and routines by far the better you'll see outcomes. Absolutely. Thank you. So Much again. We have so many more questions. I feel like maybe after kiddo comes we'll have you back on if you're up for it, but I know I want to be respectful of your time and I feel like that's a good note to end it on because we kind of went through like natural remedies and illness and all that stuff and then ending it with like food as like a basis of just really like having fun creating a solid base of nutrient density, which therefore will impact help in all ways shape and form. I That's a good way to wrap it up. How do you feel for sure? Look, I mean, I love these topics so I can answer questions all day long. I think for time sake let's go ahead and end and then yeah, we could do it another part 2 after my baby boy comes and things get settled. I love questions for moms, because then they're curious. They want to understand things. They want to take things into their own hands. So I'm all about this. I think it's great that if you've even listen this far that I hope that you guys got a lot of information from this and again, go ahead and check out. Let's go for moms.com because there's just so much more information there that I think one day you guys may benefit from absolutely and just for you guys. We're going to be having a coupon code mod modern Mama's coupon for 15% off that's going to be launching the the day this episode are so it should be we'll just go ahead and put it out. There should be good for you guys now, so if you loved what you heard and you really want to know more and you just want to go to Resource that's organized well for you when you need it, I highly highly recommend med school for moms and Dr. Ramel, thank you so much for being on and can you tell everyone again where to find you how to connect with you where you're going to be sharing most of your content? Yes, and I love offering discount. So I'm more than happy to do this for you guys. I'll set it up. So it expires in 30 days. Right? So I think we're going to are October 30th at that point. I think I'm gonna have my baby. I mean I'm due in just a couple couple weeks. So that's going to be so much fun. And so I may or may not even be on social media. Who knows. But anyway it expired in November 30th. So keep an eye out for that. And that's perfect. That's really like cold and flu time is starting. Okay. So a couple of things is if you're interested any time in like a one-to-one console with me, I am starting to take new patients in the new year. So obviously after my maternity leave I see patients already nourish Medical Center here in San Diego, but I do offer Virtual Console. So that is always an option. You can check us out over at nourish Medical Center where on Instagram or obviously just our website nourish Medical Center.com. And then if you're interested obviously in my online teachings, that's at med school for Her mom's.com and then obviously I'm over on Instagram. I'm there pretty often. I really love engaging on Instagram. And so I'm there at dr. Alana Romel and now we're on Facebook Facebook is kind of new to me. But I've had this private Facebook group now for well over a year. I love our private group. And now I've got an open group that you can join and I try to do some Facebook lives. But again, I'm going to take a break until the new year so I can be there for my for my for my baby. But I do have other doctors helping me moderate that group because I Obviously want to make sure moms are supported. So that's med school for moms over at Facebook as well. Okay? Awesome. Well, thank you again. And as always if you guys love what you are listening to, please, please please go find us on iTunes write a review give us a little rating. We love reading those and it really just helps us get this content which is so remarkable into the hands of more people. 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