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It is Monday night. That means it's bachelorette and it's the first half of our finale. I am your host Mike feeling. I am joined only arouse me. I was hey technical definition I get to make mistakes in the captain's chair. I am your host Mike dealing. I'm joy. And of course by two lovely ladies to my left first is Christine. Hi guys. What's up, its Christine Alexis. Here and then further to my left is Renee. Hello. Good evening. Hello and good evening. It's Chris Harrison. Jeff is out today. He is on a very special one-on-one date with his wife. I love her halfs with some fantasy suite happening later on. We don't know should we cheer for it as the audience? Very good. Very good. Yes, of course guys. We're going to go over everything that happened in tonight's first half of the finale tonight. We've Our special segment who got some tweeting for the right reasons. We've got some special news, we're gonna do predictions and we've got a voice from Jeff before he left the studio today on his takes but first ladies, let me get your overall thoughts on tonight's episode. This episode was it was as we talked about a set up for tomorrow night's episode to memorize What I'm Living For but tonight was fun to see where Hannah is with these last two relationships and as much as Peter's heart was broken. And mine was mended. He is now single I'm gonna have to agree with you there. This this is obviously just a setup episode. But as equally as awkward as the first half of the half of the episode was it was also my favorite just because of so many mean worthy moments with Peters family and just that whole interaction Force for two people who broke up from a serious relationship. They look very chummy. So I thought that was a very telling part of this episode. Yeah Peter's family and then Hannah's family with Jed. Made the entire episode. Absolutely. Yeah, it's pretty cool. Let's go right from the top. So we get back. The Luke thing is finally done and we've got Chris moving the pedestal back because we're actually going to have a final three thing. What did you guys think of this Rose ceremony in general after having the whole Luke P disaster go on and now she's finally picking some people Renee. It happened just like you thought it was gonna happen. Yes. It did predicted Peter going home because to be honest. I don't know. I thought maybe her connection to Tyler was more about lust so maybe because she thought it would be easier for her to say goodbye to him at the end as opposed to Peter who she had like a stronger emotional connection to but at the same time we see her now she's struggling. So I don't know. I mean it happened the way I thought Peter was a total gentleman about it, by the way, I know last. Her the week before that we talked about that news about Peters girlfriend. And then I don't know if you guys saw but Chris Harrison spoke out and said there was more to the story. So basically, I'm on board with Peter again back to team Peter love, you know, you're home now, but yeah, I was just so sad and he kind of got a little bit of The Bachelorette it yeah, that's exactly the vibe that I was getting. I mean poised respectful. He just kind of hit all the notes and then right before he got in the limo. It was like that too. Tears just started coming. I was like, okay the Waterworks that we're getting busy lately. Stop before going in and was like late summer in the tears coming to town. Yeah, it was um, it was interesting especially at the live portion as well. He was so solemn and just really very visibly emotional Wyatt and I think Americans really going to latch onto Peter right now. Oh, yeah, there was that one moment during the live part 1 when Hannah was out when she was 4 she was like no like you didn't do anything wrong. She's like well now that I think about it. Yeah, then basically so like you didn't open up soon enough and I loved loved when Peter was like, well, you know what like I'm just here to be me and like that's what I did and I have no regrets and I love the he like stuck with that. He wasn't like well, I wish I could have done that. You're like no. I was myself. You pushed me to go my shell. I did as much as I could in that flat and your for it. It's really what the live thing with Peter was about. It was like two completely separate halves. They seem really chummy and almost a little bit awkward in the beginning. Then when they kind of got down to it in the second half it was a weird back and forth because just like Peter said why did you describe our relationship as a slow burn? I was theoretically were the only ones who slept together essentially is what he's saying, right? Yeah. I was proud of him for actually calling her out on that and asking because again, like initially she kind of copped out like there was nothing wrong but then started to peel back the layers and really be honest about it and I do genuinely feel like once she said that I saw the look of like understanding on his face and When I actually saw their body chemistry kind of change and then it became a little more flirty and I think we all picked up on the fact that there's still very much real chemistry between them and I think with that Clarity, you know, you just never know. I mean, I know we don't know what's going to happen tomorrow, but I just get the vibe that there's not this isn't the end of The Love Story with Peter and Hannah. I'm Jack I'm truly not sure and he by the way uses the word truly a lot episode truly because truly you. You I mean when they went back and forth, there's obviously chemistry there and unresolved feelings. Like Hannah was almost in tears. He was almost in tears and we don't see that a lot on after the final Rose because usually at that point but it's two of them and the other guy that lost is the one that's like trying to get a bachelor at it. So he's not really showing emotions or showing that he's like it was very hard, but I'm very happy for her. And then the Bachelor or Bachelorette is just happy in their new relationship, but I I think tonight was the most dead giveaway the Hannah's not happy aside from Chris Harrison himself be like, is it a yeah. Where is she heartbroken and like yeah, I'm guessing heartbroken because the girl seems single do you think a lot of the looks and kind of the emotion and stuff that we see especially from Hannah is Regret knowing what's happening in the real world for the past few months and what comes out with Jed and things like that. It would seem let me let's tinfoil. Hat up, right if you think okay in the tomorrow. She lets Tyler go chooses to keep Jed then in the wake of all that all this stuff comes out and she truly gets heartbroken because she really felt for Jed. Do you think that's the result of what we see right there with Peter the reason why I'm not so quick to jump to that theory. Is because we don't see yet how much The Break-Up hypothetical break up with Tyler affects her yet because she could still very much have strong feelings for Left for him to we've only seen her interaction with Peter right now. I think tomorrow when we see them in person, I'll have a better idea of whether she regrets not choosing Peter or regrets not choosing Tyler. We really don't know. Yeah, I definitely sense regret though, even though she was wording things. She kept having to change it to past tense. Yeah, and I think that was a sign of knowing like yeah, I do you think I messed up and I wish that I had gotten to know you more. I think she truly I mean think about it between Luke p and Jed the to that she was mainly focusing on look at those guys and look how much time she wasted on both of them. Yep, if they're broken up we're assuming so if she picks Jed but like that must be a hard pill to swallow of having this huge opportunity to meet your husband have 30 guys having a good amount of good guys, but picking the That are the worst to focus on. Yeah, that's make it so far. Yeah having to face the ones that were good and these reunions and be like look great. Yeah. I messed up here. Yeah, you're right. There is Regret. There's just a regret Grease the bowl just got just in general for her entire time. Let's talk before we move on to the two dates. Let's talk about the extremely cringe-worthy moments. That was Peter and the audience and his parents. Oh, so first up we have Hannah saying aye. I got scared that I might have let the perfect guy go and then wonderful random woman in the back screaming you did right and she's like, haha. Yeah, and then Dead Silence in the rest of the audience that made my whole night and I just say like that was hilarious like you can script that unless they literally paid someone to say that in the audience because the timing and can we have whoever that was on as a guest, please absolutely Ryan producer Ryan. Get on that get that woman in the city. Okay. Thanks so much. It's so Kari hop Heimer in the chances. I think Hannah just feels embarrassed by how it all went down. I have to agree. I think that's really astute observation. I think that's exactly right is but especially in the wake of all the news is come out and things like that. It doesn't make her look fantastic for keeping at least those two guys Jed. You can't really know about right but rank. It seems like the signs were over and over and over again. And so she's got a lot of flak for it. Am I super cold hearted or very cynical in just my observation of how Peters family just reacts the entire time in what way I mean? I don't know. I think I'm cynical. I see this as a reality television show and to me his mom just breaking down and crying it was as if Peter got diagnosed with some incurable disease or something and just wasn't like kicked off of the three-week relationship. He had I think the mom Not really been on television that height and her emotions on top of that being in the emotional setting that it is of watching your son get dumped on TV and then seeing him get choked up. I think if that even happen to my girlfriend I'd be and I'm just an emotional person. I think I'd be the only thing I'm going to show you. Okay, like, you know, she's okay, but on TV show isn't okay and actually growing in the chair but like the family was a little bit much specially when the sex thing came up Jesus Christ. Oh my God, his mom was basically acting like it was a telenovela like she was just like oh my son broke. Is Art. I just wanted to thank they clap for windmills sex before the four-time it missionary right family. Yup. Yup. And then she really why do you think Hannah made it? So why do you think she set the record straight there was actually twice as many times they had sex than what she really said flirty and funny flirty and funny, maybe some more ratings. I don't know it just I thought it was crazy that she would say that honestly, I thought it was something that you would reveal in an interview later and it kind of being Cheeky offhand comment. I did not think she was going to pull that right there after they just were so emotional about their breakup. Well, so emotional and to put that out there. It's like wait. Okay. So not only did you theoretically we're not sure about Jed right only have sex with Peter. They were like OK twice like yeah, you got it, but then it's like no four times and then pick up in the night. Yeah, and you dumped him right y over yourself up even more II don't even know. What did she think that he would say it later and she Wanted to get ahead of it. I don't know. I don't think even Peters that kind of guy but I mean because doesn't make her look any better doesn't make him look any better. It doesn't really serve anything. Right? If anything it makes her look worse for obviously having a really strong connection with someone and then dumping them. No think it makes her look worse at all. I just think it's we're talking about it and it did what it was supposed to do. I know it was definitely like an oh my God moment in an otherwise pretty pedestrian episode in the sense that we knew what was gonna happen terms of pacing so, It did give us the amazing moment for Chris Harrison to talk about Lupe's heart exploding in the very second one case it four times those very very good man. They're gonna milk when P for as long as possible. Yeah, they got to get them involved with something else. Right? That guy is no, you know, he's begging to be on TV somewhere else. He should and TV challenges. He challenged Ex on the Beach kind of guy. What would you are we on the challenge what with those morals and he's all come on if he what we No his morals before the shower Jesus seen were different. So he's right for someone for an Ex on the Beach. Like if you just see him coming up the beach and he's somebody's ex. I just want him to stay home. I'm gonna Paradise. I don't want to go on The Bachelorette again. I don't want to be on a crappy MTV spin-off. Whatever I need to do is going to be lurking. I just want him to be home or with his all those people and is First that somehow love him to stay there just stay there. That's all seems like he's really got a good support group. Just like we do all of our fans right here in the chat with us right now. We see all you guys Sheen a ho Babylon Misha Bella a be Christina and my friend who's always with me on love Island Amy. We four times in the windmill. How many drinks did they have which is a dead reference to love Island where they are only allowed two drinks maximum everyday can't believe that is amazing. So yeah, they probably were allowed. A couple bottles of wine here speaking of all our fans and our amazing folks. One of my two friends here is going to give a special message and shout out to all of our afterbuzzers. Yes guys before we move on to the next topic. 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Okay, we find out the real reason he's a dancer is because he was doing so crappy freshman year of college that they gave a bunch of dance classes to raise GPA. It's just say I love that moment from him. I thought was actually really funny and kind of vulnerable because don't forget like he's 25. Like II was not exactly the best a student all the time in college. Like I it was just such a relatable thing to say and it's like that's how you stumbled onto something. That's actually they're really passionate about and I just thought it was yeah. It was like very honest. Yeah. Yeah. I loved it. And real quick, we're going to get Jeff steak again later because we haven't filmed but he had a really hot ticket this exact moment because Hanna's mom asks a lot of questions of Tyler about have you guys had disagreements. What are you going to do when there is disagreements and saying as a throwback to when Hannah was talking about her parents relationship, you know, basically centering around Financial Security and not having a lot of love necessarily and that being a big part me. What did you guys think of that? Um, I mean, it's definitely something that they related on when they did have that initial conversation and I appreciated the way that Tyler didn't back down from those difficult questions. In fact, he answered them so well and so directly that he loves such a great impression and I think I think he just played it. Well, he's very aware of what the situation is and he was driving home all the points of the fact that he is financially stable. He does understand how things get hard and how you have to work through those situations and just kind of proving that like, he's not afraid of Conflict when it will inevitably come and I thought that was a very mature way to look at the situation of like, oh, we're just we're someone lover like everything's gonna be good forever know it's like we're going to experience tough times and I'm going to be there for her through it all and I was just clap it up for Tyler. Yeah. I love that. The only complaint I have about Tyler on this date and I will say it's something I've always paid attention to whether or not someone's nervous meeting your family. I do think that's an important question kind of asked. He said no, I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt because I think he's just a very lacks person is like whatever like I'm chill. I'm Tyler but like for the most part, I think it says something with some nervous about meeting your family because it's so important to make a great impression on someone's family that you're going to spend the rest of your life with and when people on the show, it drives me nuts when people aren't nervous and if you pay attention, like there are seasons where the bachelor will be nervous about meeting like to of the girl's parents and then not the other one and you kind of get a feel of who's The who's a front-runner? Yeah, but this this point I think it might just be a Tyler personality thing. I wouldn't call it out for being like a fault or a bad sign. I forgot of Jed was asked that though as was specific question, if you if you know reservist for me because this straight up ask them. They're like were you nervous to meet us? And he's like no, I'm just excited. I was like what? Yeah. Yeah. I like that answer. I don't know. I was not nervous to meet my in-laws for the first time. No, not at all. I don't no, I'm just that kind of person. I guess I wasn't I guess well, you tell me what's the line of confidence versus Cockiness of like I know I'm a good guy. I'm no I'm good with her so I know they're going to see it. I'm not nervous to me because I know I'm going to make a great impression because there were good I guess but at the same time it's like they're family, like people that you've never met that they are they could be in your lives your life forever sure. And if they don't like you and you make any kind of bad impression if you say something that may rub them. The wrong way or if they're different kinds of people than you like it's scary because you want to be in their good graces because this is your future husband or wife and that's an intimidating moment. I'm sure once you get in there, you're fine. You're just going to be yourself. But in the beginning you're like, oh my God, what if this happens? Oh what if this happens, you know, I think part of like saying to like, you know answering like no I wasn't nervous is also just like a self-fulfilling prophecy. Like don't say you're nervous. If you don't start them acting like a nervous babbling fool. I think that's also part of it too. Yeah. That's fair. I don't know I In the past. I usually like when contestants are nervous meeting the family whether it's a contestant or the bachelor. It just makes me it's more of a relatable thing than like, that's cool. Yeah, Dad coming out real strong for Hannah as an obvious Bachelorette fan and Bachelor fan. No one exactly what goes down in the fantasy suites and he is really happy that it didn't go there with Tyler so that they could explore their mental relationship or what-have-you. I thought was really interesting. That he really kind of harped on it both to Tyler and to Hannah this made dad really excited man it I know where's talking within the content the contract of this date, but it's got to her for Tyler watching this whole thing back knowing that she had sex with Peter for time now. Yeah four times but I'm going back to that. Yeah again more points for Tyler like makes him look like a super chivalrous guy super just like loving and understanding and like that's something that the parents both said several times that he Comes across a very loving and I got that Vibe as well from the edit. Yeah. Okay Avalon Parts got an interesting take Tyler knows how families deal with business and bad money because his parents lost their property and a lot of money during the recession. So that's interesting. He knows how to kind of rebuild that goes a little bit especially if you're talking about property a little bit into his background as a general contractor and things like that. So that would if they actually explore that more and stuff that we didn't get to see that'd be very appealing I would think to Hannah's parents who are seemingly very focused on the The intial aspect of taking care of Hannah with whomever she picks if he's able to you know, he has experience in rebuilding from the ground up should anything happen, right? I feel like Tyler and Hannah's dad has such a like cool Bond. I wouldn't be surprised if something's got cut on the floor of them just chopping it up about like what kind of projects he works on because like he is a very like manly man's job. Yeah, you know being a contractor doing all this stuff. So I'm sure he got so many points. Yeah tonight conversation. I think the final thing in this that I wanted to touch on is where do you guys excuse me? What do you guys feel about Tyler right now? Because when Hannah specifically talks to him she talks about in the beginning not being sure if she was just in lust with him and exactly what she felt about when their relationships and now they seem totally fine. So do you guys see it as having change and how do you feel about Tyler right now in this moment? I mean, I like their connection a lot. I don't know what else to say like I think at this point when I see them together, I you have to compare on this show. So I don't think of the relationship alone and compared to Jed. She just seems more Indigent. So for me, it's always like you just compare the relationships. I think we think more about Tyler as a person and like, oh he be great for her but as their relationship, it's great. And I do think she is probably falling in love with him or is in love with him. But like she's more in love with someone else. Yeah, actually Now that you say that comparing the two it feels like Hannah and Tyler just became boyfriend and girlfriend. Whereas like Jedi feels like Hannah and John have been together and they're going through like their first major fight and the hurdles of like a year and what their families think like. I just feel so much further along like the weight of their relationship. But with that being said, it's like is Hannah going to go for the guy who now, she's so giddy about in this field. So like fresh and finally like confirmed like will that hold more weight. Versus like this other relationship that was so strong initially and they are now fighting these hurdles because judge family didn't like Hannah and Hannah to come. He isn't really fond of Jed. So there's something to be said about this like it's us against the world type thing. That could also be working in Hannah's mine right now, that could also be making her feelings for get a little stronger because you kind of want something you got to work a little harder for yeah, and it almost I was thinking it almost makes it more cringy what happened with Hannah's family and Jed if you go with It seems like they've actually been the front-runner couple maybe really been a relationship this whole time and then it was nothing but her family kind of striking it down right off the bat. Yeah, right. I mean finances finances finances. I took a little bit. That's I'm going overboard. I didn't take offense to it, but I thought it was kind of out of line, especially 2019 really, you know, please ensure no reason woman has any less earning potential or anything? I'm like that than a man. There's no reason why at worst it's not 5050 in a relationship and she seems more than capable of getting whatever job or career whatever she wants to do in fulfilling it if this truly is the person that she's completely in love with who cares if he makes less money, it's also I also feel bad for Jed and I'm speaking of vacuum because we know stuff outside right? So I'm just running within the context of the show completely when the context of the show and then we can talk about outside but inside if he's really put it out there and And I'm a musician. This is what I'm passionate about this what I'm really trying to go for. It doesn't also mean that he doesn't have side jobs and things like that. I want to be a host. I'm not a 100% professional host right now. I do other work on the side. There's really no difference and I luckily I guess my family has never looked down on me for anything like that or what I pursue and I felt bad for him in the moment. That's a really fair observation as someone who does multiple side hustles myself. I can I can understand that but I think what you're saying Hannah is on the same page because she at every turn kept bringing up the fact that she is a woman with her own dreams and aspirations and she seemed she gave off the vibe that she's like, I'm a writer die type if we're both going to be pursuing her thing. Like that's that's okay too. But when you meet her family and you see how hard-pressed they are about that you got to know that's probably something she was raised to believe that regardless of her dreams like their shoot. There should be some sort of financial stability from the man in the relationship or just period so It is still a valid conversation and concern I do agree. Maybe the Nuance of the fact that it's 2019 was maybe lost on her parents, but I think they're also coming from a place of like this is my daughter like yeah, I need to do my due diligence to make sure I'm suggesting the guy who's gonna check off all those boxes regardless of how the situation plays out. Yeah. I mean listen. I thought I think that they both can contribute to a family. It is 2019. I will say though it like logistically if you're if one of you is a dreamer and the other one is more of a stable person like, you know, providing stability awesome, whether it's the man or the woman, but if they're both dreamers before we continue one of the ways we keep all these shows for you free is by our amazing sponsors. And today Spotify is one of our sponsors on Spotify. You can listen to all of your favorite. 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However going in the life of the musician I will say like gem in a very clear his number-one priority is music Tyler made it very clear. His number-one priority is going to be family, right but the end of the When you're thinking like yes, I want family. And yes, I want I want to Chase my dreams and be with someone that can be there for me. Whatever like on paper. It's clearly Tyler. I think Jed's life right now is super unstable. I mean with taken out the vacuum, like look at the fact he went on this look at this. No mess of his life he had before he like left his girlfriend without breaking up with her to go on the show to get Fame changed. His mind said like no I want to be in this and I want to be with this woman like he's all over the place. He's not a stable person. He doesn't have a stable job. Job, there's a lot of things unstable about Jed. Whereas Tyler has represented stability as a whole and someone who will truly be there for you. So I understand the parents concerns and to be honest Judd didn't sell me either wasn't like what he was saying was making me go. Yeah. Yeah, where are they not understanding. I was just like this is it but that's a great point. He wasn't exactly giving us that kind of earnest like yeah, but I make I make ends meet no matter what vibe it was just like yeah, but like you don't really know me. I'm like, yeah I have Which basically answers the question he was real nervous and then he probably got worse as soon as dad started talking. I wanted to point out the fact that literally pretty much what her dad said was almost exactly what Luke P said on his couch interview being a man has a specific role in the relationship. They basically said the same thing and loop P got cringy booze for that and I just wanted to put it out there that we're not letting dad slide right through It's very similar, but not really controlling a woman buddy. I think he was talking about he wasn't talking about provide. He wasn't talking about controlling exactly. What a woman does Luke was and he was really talking about providing and saying that a man has a role. Like I know you hate Luke but we 30 seconds or more to answer. Do you want a woman you can keep in a glass case and take down when you want, but that's not what I was talking about. But my point is it's all about control. Going off of that like I get what you're saying, but Luke is someone who just wants to control someone. So yes, that's part of the control. Like I don't think Luke should be considered in this argument. To be honest with you. I think the dad like as a very few want to call it like traditional view of how like a woman and a man should be in a house that I don't agree with. However, I don't think it's the sense of like you need to control her knees provided you like provide for her and then she won't it's different for me. I also wonder if the financial struggles that Hannah's parents went through we're has maybe the dad was down on his luck at some point and maybe that's what's really driving him to want someone to be that financially stable because it could have been the Crux of their marriage don't we don't know that's actually a really good point because a lot of times like Jeff was saying this and I think we'll get to his video but like the parents probably only had stability at the end of the day like maybe the love died or maybe they had some other issues about the end the day that's all they had. So they want at least her daughter to have that and if you think about it, they see her having love with both guys. So why not pick the one that's also stable? Yeah, I've got to them because they don't know exactly what she's thinking right so they can only see some kind of surface level of how she's interacting with the two of them. I also think you just get vibes from people and I think the parents have got a bad vibe from Jed like clearly from the get-go be fair to be honest dead-on. That's not I honestly I'm gonna bet my boyfriend's through Hannah's family because they were onto something that's what's gonna happen. Well, that's the freaky thing because I didn't agree with what they were saying, but I said, wow because of what we actually know about Jed you our right just for the wrong reasons that you don't know about yet and so good on you and I also thought it was it was a little bit damning saying specifically relating to Jed. We don't want you to settle. Oh, I love that right because of the outside contact right like so good so good. But I mean, I know you said off air as well that like if we didn't if that all wasn't there would be feeling bad for the guy. Absolutely. So I mean everybody what no matter what you put in the chat. No about Jed's background you'd feel bad for him. Just see what we've seen of him in the show. Everything seemed really really great. And then the parents kind of shut him down pretty hard. I don't know because I didn't find him to be honest just watching it and I'll go back to I didn't find him likable during this whole meeting with their family. I found just for tonight. Okay? Oh, yeah. I have loved if I didn't know what I knew like there are times. I really loved you. But tonight he didn't wow me at all he and say anything that made me go. Oh my gosh, look at truly felt like He didn't even know what to say because he knows he can't provide he knows he's unstable and he knows about Haley he didn't take I mean, it was a situation where he had to be on the defensive, but he just didn't handle it. Well, I think it was definitely a way to bounce back from that and present your character in a way that's going to make you look good and I feel like he didn't do a great job at that. But I think this is a good time to hear Jeff's take on this. Yes. It is a good times. I don't think he's gonna talk about the dates. So Ryan if you would roll in our maestro Unfortunately, I'm not able to make tonight's broadcast, but I still had plenty of thoughts in the finale part 1 and I wanted to share them in the panel is very graciously letting me send in this video. So I'll keep it very quick Peter's. Goodbye was very emotional. But seeing him on air with Hannah was super interesting whatever happened to the finale. It's clear that there's definitely strong feelings between the two of them still and I don't know I just whatever's gonna happen with Peter. It's clear after tonight's show that he's if he wants to be involved at the franchise weather. Paradise or even being a potential future Bachelor the opportunity should and will be wide open for him because he handles the site. Well, definitely that heartbreak get it and we'll see what happens with him in terms of the actual rest of the episode in terms of both guys meeting the families. Tyler's was obviously very straightforward meeting the family loved him. He Charmed the family like he's managed to charm the rest of Bachelor Nation. I'm gonna be honest something about Tyler still makes me feel like he's a little phony. He always has the right answers, but even though he spoke to his family, Family, his responses seemed to be exactly what the family would want to hear but I don't always believe him. I realized maybe it's the lack of intonation. He uses in his voice. He kind of says everything in the same monotone no matter what it is. So I just find it kind of fishy sometimes but he definitely Charmed the family much more than Jed did obviously they were primarily growing jet on financial issues whether or not he's gonna be able to provide for the family and I understand why I think I was saying to the panel as we watched the Show that Hannah opened up earlier in the season about the fact that her parents marriage isn't particularly strong. It's kind of more of an obligatory marriage. So I think for Hannah's parents Financial stability is the only kind of foundational thing grounding their marriage together their past the honeymoon stage and Hannah kind of implied that there's not much love or romance or even Intimacy in their marriage anymore. So for both of those parents to them, they can only Envision a successful marriage if it's based on the Leti for financial stability to ground the couple. So that's why Hannah's parents were as obsessed with Jed's ability to provide for Hannah as he could be so that was kind of my take on all that Hannah slept with Tyler is the implication, right and Jed and Hannah had a good pretty good last date. I just wanted to share most of those stops. Those aren't my full thoughts. I'll give some more I will be there for the finale tomorrow, but I'm going to go because I need to give time to rest of the panel to analyze the show. Renae Christine Mike, I miss you guys have a great show. I'll see y'all tomorrow. He needed to get his one-on-one date hanging because fact us. What would you guys think pretty right on and I think you agree with a lot of stuff we're talking about. Yeah. I think he covered. I mean it's just, you know, before we get to the final dates real quick everybody in the chat wants to talk about the dog food stuff. I know so I God super quick Jed said Jen says to the family and I knew what he was doing here this Sighs look I can be successful. I can't I have had success. I sold my services to this dog food company in writing a jingle Fair Play There's what thousands millions of musicians who probably never made a dime doing music. So that is something he's got something going on, but it did not work out the way he wanted it because he didn't sell it like the way he said it actually sounded ridiculous. Yes. That's if my musician from was like, oh my God, I worked out this deal with Kermit. Dog food and they're going to pay me for this song and this song I like. Oh my God that good for you. But he was like, yeah, like I died so I do music for like dog food and that I was like what like that's how I yeah. See, I do make money in the way. He said it like everything about it wasn't selling it was not sharing to be like learn about me. It just came across very unlikable similarly to how he originally introduced himself as a musician. Ian songwriter as if he was like pitching himself like is this American I didn't like any of it the way he sold everything just felt gross and that just was such a bad cell I agree and I also got the vibe from him especially from his items because he was very much like shocked that the family didn't just welcomed him with open arms that I got the impression. He didn't feel like he had to try hard. He said it's an he's like, I thought like they would just I would come in here and they would just see how natural it is with us. Like like why do I even have to try hard and it's like dude you gotta try This is her family. This is her Inner Circle. You have to make a great first impression and he we can all agree. He dropped the ball on that know I think a little too confident in the wrong time when it's literally down to just you and one other person like bro Morgan. I do agree with you Peter for Renee. Hashtag Peter for me real quick as we got it gets all our special segments and we run out of time. They have the last two final dates Tyler than Jed Tyler had horses yet again, the Poor guy Jet got a great boat, but Hannah ended up getting sick and just like Jeff said she spends the night with Tyler whatever that means and she goes away from Jed. So anything big you guys wanted to mention or talk about based on those last final two dates before tomorrows reveal. Now, I was bored the whole time ago States. I'm being real with you guys. Yeah. Yeah anything anything new was said. No, he isn't going Clarity the girls either. I mean, apparently she doesn't seem to get clarity tomorrow night either from the way they teased it sounds right? Yeah that's going to be Moment. She's like I know what to do. I'll be so excited about like it's going to be like, I don't know this he's great. He's great. We get it. We've seen the relationships. We know how they are because she's she's had no Clarity. It's just like well tomorrow you got to you have to do tomorrow. I like the Strategic boat seasickness wording. That was a foreshadowing. I don't like the rocky roads ahead or whatever. It was cool. Yeah, it's funny because Miss plant promotion and the chat says, I think Hannah doesn't feel worthy of Tyler. She thought he was a player and she always prayed to feel worthy. I think she doesn't believe he would love her. Yeah, I can I could see that I mean, especially considering the love that she has accepted on the show. If you think about the guys like Jed who are point and then Luke P. So I do think that is very telling. Yeah, it's really interesting. Well, will she do the classic girl move and pick the asshole in the end and send home the big guy who loves her shit. We'll see that's the whole reason. They left us on a cliffhanger. We never got any more. Studio with Hannah that was just a complete tease anything with her back with Chris and basically, it's like yeah guys come back tomorrow, right? She's like, yeah guys Jen has a girlfriend will talk about tomorrow. Okay. Yeah. I mean there's so much to talk about we got five minutes real quick someone I saw earlier in the chats. Did you guys find it weird that Chris didn't bring up Peters girlfriend situation and what I was going to ask I'm let you guys go off. Do you think it's because as a franchise or trying to set him up for more bachelor/bachelorette stuff? No because Chris Harrison Is smart enough not to go public in an interview saying I am going. Drill both Jed and Peter on after the final Rose and then not do it. So is Peter coming back tomorrow? That's the real question because yes, they didn't address any rumors with Peter today. But like why would Chris Harrison say that in an interview? Right? And it he can't just pretend that never happened. So he either has to explain why he chose not to drill Peter lik, he promised an interview which I was looking forward to or it's got to happen tomorrow because that was BS. He really that one interview made me think. Okay. There's more to the story. We're going to get it and I'm excited for it. But we didn't get anything. Yeah. Yeah. I just I mean it might be wishful thinking but I have hope that he's gonna address it tomorrow. I think it's also going to be in the context of like just overall addressing the claims against Jed the claims against Peter and just overall drama within the franchise kind of just putting it all to bed tomorrow. So hopefully comes back and he'll probably still end up getting a good edit from it because it'll if it does play out the way that I'm getting the vibe like I because I get the vibe that Chris likes him. Oh, yeah, he's gonna get a great edit if it's followed. Away by Jed and his girlfriend thinks I'm still look like nothing. We're gonna find out we're going to see Hannah trip and fall and stumble yet. Once again, you know, it's in all the previews but until tomorrow, let us go right now Ryan to our tweets that we sent in, you know, guys, we take a look at everything that you guys are tweeting around Bachelor Nation. We pick a few of the really really fun ones to feature. Who's this? Okay, this is right. This is mine. So, oh gosh, it says no context. Thank you Ryan. No context spoilers so far for the finale and then we Have a plane in the water with a lot of people which is Peter getting sent home number four because when Mill and then you see an empty wallet Jed and the dog food you guys if you looked up the no context spoilers every week. They're my favorite thing every week. They're great. This is mine Hannah saying, I'm just really confused and Jen saying I don't have my guitar. So I don't know how to respond. We had no guitar here. I can't believe you didn't bring a guitar for the family, right? That would have been a way to sell it. Really sold it. Yeah, if you made her song with their names in it on the spot stop stop thick but the dog for Chad stop sweet as well. I don't know if we can get up. It's in that same email right there might sweet was Luke be watching The Bachelorette finale and finding out Hannah and pilot Pete had sex four times in a windmill and it Samira Steve girl from the office. So you're going to H ew l You gotta know that loopy was salty listening. No could not be excited about it at all. Awesome. That is are tweeting for the right reasons and now Christine you a little bit of fun news for us. Yeah. Yeah just a fun little bit of news and gossip for you guys. So first off, you know our lovely former Bachelor Colton Underwood has seemingly spoke out in support of one particular contestant for bachelor. And that is pilot Peter. He recently posted on his Instagram page a picture of himself. Just holding up a pilot spin to his shirt and saying I hear Pilots make good. Bachelors doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out who this pick for bachelor. And on that note my second piece of news and gossip for you guys is tonight that Chris Harrison did say in an interview on Bachelor Party speaking to eat. He's Lauren Zima it gave his girlfriend as you guys know. Hey basic, he said that we will not find out who the bachelor is until Bachelor until after Bachelor in Paradise airs. I'm going off of Chris Harrison's word. Obviously if ABC decides differently and we find out sooner. We'll find out but as of right Right now that's kind of the running. I guess way that they're going about it because as you guys remember, Nick wasn't chosen to be the bachelor until after his stint in paradise and neither was Holton, so there's a lot that still at play here with people like Mike who we know will run the back of Bachelor in Paradise. So we're just going to wait a little longer. I see all these Peter for bachelor comments in the live chat guys, but we just don't know yet. Did it just real quick did this last episode and maybe even last week did it raise Peters stock for our potential to wanted me to be a bachelor? Yeah, well, I've I mean, you know me. Well, yeah, I mean, yes, you don't want him to be Bachelor. I got a friend. That's true. Listen. I'm fine for Peter for Bachelor or Peter for Renee. One of them. Let's do it. Well either watch him for a season or will date for a season. It's going to be great just to season. This is specific time. I'm here for Peter for Renee. Just tell him to bring it definitely raises stock for me, but I'm still very much team Mike for bachelor. Like I need the Franchise to go in this direction for me just like one time for the one time please. It's got to be it's got to be between Peter and Tyler. Who's Bachelor Peter Peter Tyler Tyler. Mmm, interesting. Okay, that is a perfect way to segue Ryan. Can we have the AfterBuzz predictions music you're a miserable will find out who wins Renee who does Hannah pick? I think that Luke p is going to come - yes. Yes sitting. I think that she's gonna pick Chad but then they're going to break up and they're going to record something about their breakup and then they're gonna meet up and whatever. Okay feels very our ears. Oh, yeah completely Jesus. I um God, I mean, okay. I'ma be honest. I think she picks even lying this whole time. No, I think she's changed her mind Pig Jed and then Be even more heartbroken that he did that to her like all with in tomorrow's episode but change her mind back in Crete Yaga. I think this is all gonna happen tomorrow night of her being like I want it to be Tyler and then she like has some indecision at the last minute in man chooses Jed and that's what's going to make this whole thing even more spicy. I mean, that's a great take that would be awesome. I think whatever happens she picks Jed I and I wanted a big jet because I want the drama and want the entry of not well that happens. I'm I will be unwell guys let us know in the chat who you think she is going to pick post it in the comments will read it's only good for tonight. So who do you guys think? She is going to pick this is the big deal regardless of who she picks. We are going to be right back here tomorrow. Jeff is going to be back. We're going to be for strong until tomorrow. Ladies. Where can they find you you guys you can find me on Twitter at Christine be with three. He's and on Instagram at Christine I Alexis again. I'm your host Christine Alexis, and I'll see you tomorrow. You guys can follow me at ornate Ariel on Instagram and Twitter and I'm going to be talking about the bachelor tomorrow on shared news. So check it out on YouTube / shared news guys. I might feel you can find me everywhere at Mike feeling. I'm pumped to be back here tomorrow with you two and Jeff until then four times four times in a windmill. Maybe not a bathroom. We still don't know definitely did not have a bathroom guys. I found her Keven undergaro and me Maria Menounos would like to thank you for Tuning in to AfterBuzz TV remember, we're not just the first where the biggest in the world are were the only destination for all your favorite TV shows whatever your grave we've got it. So go to after those tv.com and check out our lineup buzz you later views expressed herein are those of the host only do not necessarily reflect the views of AfterBuzz TV or its owners of
Tonight is the tale of two very different family visits for Tyler and Jed after Peter is sent home. How do they go? What does this mean for Hannah and their relationships? Who will she pick?? Join Mike Thieling, Christine Alexis and Renee Ariel as they break down part 1 of the 2 part finale. The Bachelorette After Show: Which of the men will get the final rose? On THE BACHELORETTE AFTER SHOW we’ll fill you in on everything that happens on and off camera on the hit ABC series. Plus be bringing your favorite cast members our panel. Tune in for reviews, recaps and in-depth discussions of the latest episodes’ group dates, one on one dates, the squabbles and fights AND bonus off-season content like news updates happening in Bachelor nation. ABOUT THE BACHELORETTE: Becca Kufrin believed she had found love with Arie Luyendyk Jr. on "The Bachelor," but when the race car driver changed his mind and broke her heart so he could reunite with runner-up Lauren Burnham, the humble girl next door from Minnesota resolved not to let the heart-wrenching breakup hold her back. When the 27-year-old publicist isn't making a splash at the boutique public relations agency where she works or planning her next overseas trip, she can be found at home hosting dinner parties for her friends. She hopes to find a man who shares her firm set of Midwest values and who is actually ready to commit to her on her terms. 