Before I continue one of the ways, we keep all of our content for you. The listener free of charge is our amazing sponsors, and today anchor is one of those sponsors. If you haven't heard about anchor it's the easiest way to make a podcast. Let me explain it's free. There's creation tools that allow you to record and edit your podcast right from your phone or computer anchors going to distributor podcast for you. So it can be heard on Spotify Apple podcasts and everywhere podcasts are listened to and you can even make money from your podcast with no minimum listenership. It's everything you need to make a podcast in one place download the free anchor app or go to Anchor Not FM to get started. What's up, everybody? This is Bam Erickson here for AfterBuzz TV for power season 6 episode 3 title Forget About Dre. Jerry Ferrara is in the building as I guess AfterBuzz TV. Let's go you're tuned in to AfterBuzz TV the ESPN of TV talk now, let them go. I guess I never took a straight. Everybody I'm being they're saying and I would like to introduce our panel to my left. We have German roll. Hey, thanks for checking us out and two other to my far left we have and as you can see we have a very special another special guest in the building if you guys remember Camellia, I'm sure you do. Once I'm gonna is good to have you feeling it for Jimmy and Jimmy's not here today. But you know Camille, you should be taking good care of us. Shout out to Jimmy. We thank you guys for having me. Yes, of course come back to be. Yeah, definitely and joining us via Skype from New York. He plays Joe Proctor, please welcome the one and only Jennifer are ya. Hey, so speaking of the theme song So Jerry, let's ask you do you have a preference? Did you like the original version? Do you like the remix? What's your opinion? Look, I mean the original You know kind of part of the reason why I got hooks. I mean, it's just kind of draws you in I don't have any problems with the remix and remixes great. I'm going to face to go back and revisit the original it was nice this episode 3 to hear that again. You said that oh so smoothly. That was so cool. Okay. So before we get into your storyline and what happened in last night's episode, I would like just a little bit of the back story between Proctor and execs wife Lindsay because I do wonder you know, there's this whole thing of did Proctor sent Lindsay up. I'm more inclined to think that they were married they partied and did drugs maybe recreational and then maybe she got hooked and then once she was becoming addictive then you have to kind of step in and you have to take custody of your child. But what is the actual? Story between John Proctor and Lindsay so as was pitched to me now. This is you know, quite a few years ago. When I first came onto the show by Courtney Kemp to show Creator, they were married as his ex-wife and obviously never little girl together and similarly what you said there was some partying although she was probably partying a lot harder than he was when things started to go south. He didn't necessarily took his daughter went to clean up your act. That was almost his a way of keeping his daughter by keeping her a mess and kind of still using that was kind of a bad negotiating ploy to keep custody of his daughter. So her cleaning up her act and starting to get her life together is sort of a bad a bad Vibe for Joe Proctor because he's now that much closer to sharing custody and maybe even losing custody down the road. Okay. Okay. So you just admitted. Basically you have some shady ways in the past. I don't think it's a big secret anymore. Then he doesn't know where the lines are likely love what side good or bad at the key looks at everybody as both good and bad all the same time and I don't think he respects some of the federal prosecutors that are coming at him on the other side of the courtroom. Yeah, you know, it's funny many times. I think we've said in the studio that we would like Proctor as our attorney. Right, I mean real life. Seriously. Yeah - the booger sugar, you know, we would like Proctor and and I think especially now that the wife is getting clean. We're starting to see where the daughter stands because in this episode. We got to hear from her will kind of she broke down crying but this whole time we were assuming that she wanted to be with her father only but technically it just I mean the way the mom the way Lindsay did it she was it was enticing. Hey we get together. Her nails done. I don't feel like she felt like she was picking sides. I felt like she was like, oh God. I'm a like, I don't know what the hell to do. Yeah. She broke down start crying. So I wouldn't say she's necessarily in favor of her mom. She would just put in a situation where she saw Mommy Daddy. She saw the the the the the judge and she know they had to do. I mean what I remember from that also watching it back talking about it when we first come in and we see my daughter, you know, it's also the first time you kind of see my wife and she is a mess. So if anything what I read from that too was like the daughter was a little scared maybe to possibly be spending that much time with her mom because she only knows her mom is kind of a mess. So it's probably unsafe situation for her. But it's still her mom. You know, I think if she's such a wonderful actress Natalia is her name and she's just like those scenes pulling your heart here. You see will tenure 11 year old girl crying. It's like, oh it's on you go. Stay with your mom for a little while. Yeah what I find interesting. I really like Proctor and Lindsay's relationship because as I've mentioned before that, you know, the one of the themes of the show was really is this power struggle between both between ghost and Tasha so now that Lindsay's back into the picture. She's gotten clean now there is a there's a power struggle between the two and now we're Lindsay's trying to do is she's trying to use her leverage because she knows she was married to Proctor's so she knows all this dirt and then on top of that then you then you add in all of the things that Joe Proctor is affiliated with and now possibly the tides can turn and so what do you guys think about that? That was Lindsay might get an upper hand like Lindsey now is using her power positions. He picked the wrong side. And so we got to think long game because Proctor is in the middle of all of this. He's in the middle of Tommy's Shenanigans. He's in middle of ghost Shenanigans. Remember Proctor help clean up a dead body out of his own apartment. So he so long game. It might not be in the in the worst interest for his ex-wife to get clean because it Proctor go down who gone Get that's a good thing. That's a great point. But heard her objective is I feel like Lindsay's objective is to is to pull and get the child herself, which is why she's doing this because she knows that his past and then on top of that if you add on to the fact that he did clean up the body he has the he has a situations that the he has a laptop. I feel like I'm sorry. So Jerry, so let me just explain I have this I have this desire to want to kill people off on the show I so So it was also I think with lazy I think with Lindsey now trying to play her position. I think she can possibly get you. I'm not you. I feel like she can possibly get Proctor and Cooper killed and then she takes he's killing you all he has full she gets full custody, and she and she goes off. I mean he's not killing its power. Everybody's life is on the line every episode. You just don't know what's going to happen. Who's going to get it from who from where it's it's kind of what makes the show intoxicating because sometimes it's people you love sometimes it's people you love rooting against so you just don't know. Those are some good theories. Those it really interesting question because we've been you know, really just trying to pick apart the scene where you hide the laptop the laptop everybody wants to know about the The laptop now, can we just forget about it? Or is it really going to make an appearance back on the show? Well, listen judging from the reaction I get in the streets walking around my neighborhood. No one forgetting about it people don't have for me from blocks away. Like you better get ready. Yeah, there's some interesting stuff on that laptop. And you know, it's just it's good I say here. I'm going to look at certainly out there. The laptop is still out there. Like I don't know. Maybe we'll see what happens with him. It's getting hot. I mean I know why he did that, but I just wanted to just throw that out there that Proctor chose to give the information to. Me and not goes. Well, he gave it to me give it to you both showed up to both right? I thought he gave it only to ghost. I'm sorry. I thought he only gave him a Shinto Tommy. He was like, I don't know what you guys are gonna have to tune in and get more pieces of information as to what getting a little spoiler. He's in here to Tommy because only because He knows that Tommy is itching to kill him. So anything that Tommy wants from Proctor practic Proctor technically has to follow the order of Tommy being that Tommy wants to kill him. But what does it say about the fact that goes actually showed up at the same location with his own plan doesn't that say that he also have the same information that Tommy did I guess who was the person who text old boy with the with the cup of water? That was the other question is we compute the Terrace and who takes old boy was the one who got the information from old boy. Inside source in the other person got it from Proctor. Okay. I think I think that I don't know you clear this up here and have that information to text the guy because remember Tommy Tommy said oh and what's your boy like you're connecting your inside connect because we're going to need that too. So I'm a because he's gonna have to run they said something about him. Yeah and him to leave after that happened. So but then also another another question in regards to that is how the hell did Ghost think that he was going to pull this off by himself going solo. Whoa, but that's something that we'll talk about more. But let's let's let's get more. Let's get more into to Jerry. So any other questions about his character before we go into some other stuff. What did you want to say something Jerry? You look like you were on the brink of saying something. No, I want to say is like if Proctor did tell Tommy and he looks to be a lot of advantages to that. If you did do that, you know, you're also may be sending him into a dangerous situation to help out. There is very uncomfortable around Tommy as we all groan see so I think it's possible. He shared it with Tommy and he goes gotta somewhere else and maybe told both of them. Okay? Okay. Yeah. All right. Go ahead Pam. So outside of outside of power. We want to do this as some some other questions about some of the things that you have going on my front. My first question is, you know, once everyone knows that Jerry was on Entourage and he play Turtle. If you don't know that then, you know, you're under around a rock, but when went Entourage started To take off and this show became such a part of Pop Culture. Were you worried as an actor that you are not possibly that you are possibly going to be Typecast and people would only see you as Turtle before obviously you started to do other movies and and UB and you became this and you got this role, but did it ever did you ever have a like a fear about it? I mean absolutely only because to it's kind of what you you know growing up doing this at a rather young age of my starting off like 18 years old. It's something you constantly hear about. So it was always in the back of I think all of our minds especially, you know, if you go back onto our started in 2004, you know, so back then too if you kind of did TV, you only really see these if you did movies you only really did movies in the to didn't really cross over when I you you know, Up to 15 years later. I mean you have movie started doing TV shows. You have TV stars doing movies and somewhere some guys and girls are doing both and everything in podcast. So like all those old school kind of typecasting rules that they have been thrown out the window. I picked it. If you're a lazy person who kind of likes to relax on what you have done in the past. It could pretty much more dangerous threat. I think if you're motivated and you enjoy what you do, and I think that there's a lot of Opportunity to show people, you know, what you could do power when it first started from me was you know, a couple of episodes and Kourtney Kim told me she had plans for the character, but I didn't know so not that I took a big risk, but it was a chance for me to show a different side and look what it led to him five years later. You know, I found myself on a show that I mean, we just had the premiere Madison Square Garden 13,000 people. I don't think I'll ever I don't think anyone will ever see anything like that again for a TV show. Yeah. Powerful, it is viewed like that like a sporting event people were cheering booing screaming like it just it makes people emotional. I don't know what it is. But so and I guess also is typecasting really was a thing and look I get you did is put a sort of happened to me twice. So isn't that kind of disproved that theory? It shouldn't really happen again. It only happened once how tall you are so that you cut to 15 years later. I'll walk down one street. People are screaming Turtle. I'll cross over. Her go around the block people were screaming Proctor and they don't even know about each other kind of cool. How did you get the part for the for Proctor? That's a good story. So I had a meeting with Courtney Camp way back in season one and I think before season one started shooting, but I had read the pilot and I think they're already picked up to go to the theater and they were talking about a different role and for some reason happen like scheduling lies, but She said she gave me the old line of like all right. Well, I want to work with you. I'm going to write something for you one day and it's like I mean, I've heard that quite quite often in my career and really does that ever come to be and sure enough and you know, I watch all of season one and power and I'm like, oh great. Yeah, of course the show's awesome. Like I could have been on this show and didn't work out. She called the year later. She said, hey, I wrote this role. It's for the criminal defense attorney for ghosts. He hires you to go. Tommy it's not a whole lot of stuff in season 2 but it's going somewhere and she weighed out this plan. And I said great. Can you send me a seeing and she sent me over like two scenes that were of you know, her Courtney level awesome because if in I got on the plane I flew to New York. I was shooting like two days later and again, you cut the five years from then I mean, it's just it's just been a wild wild ride. I am so happy that I was a part of the show. I really do think it's a Ciao, it is. So so Jerry, if you don't know we actually have a live chat going on in YouTube on every of our episodes and the fans are watching right now. They're very excited to talk to you and ask you questions and I have a couple of good ones and I'm sorry. I cannot pronounce this name, but it's the PO IUI 98 says could Turtle your character from Entourage survive in the world of power. Oh, that's a good question. You know what I think so, I think Turtle has some hustle in him. I mean I don't know. If you would have made it to the end of the he would have survived a long time. I don't know if Turtle would have made it to the very very end because he might have just smoked too much weed and got that's good. I have one more question and this is from original 24 that said is there a real-life lawyer that you studied or spoke to for this role? And if so what advice or piece of information helped you the most? Prepare for this role. That's a really good question. I didn't even get the chance to speak to anybody. But I'm one of the things that Kourtney and I bonded over when she was also telling me about the character was real shit. I grew up in Brooklyn and we had some similar interests and she reminded me of way back in like the late 80s early 90s obviously about to bring up name from there. But John Gotti, you know when you know the Teflon Don and they called him is constantly beating charges from the government. He had a Bruce Cutler, I think his name was who was very theatrical in the courtroom. Like when he was defending his clients. It was like theater to this guy. He was big over-the-top. He was a bully with a big guy. She kind of use that as like an early example. And so anytime I was in those courtroom scenes. I just tried to be as big and over-the-top and you know, if it's a witness said something I didn't like it was like I would really just look horribly offended. Yeah, those things which are always very tricky became like theater for me. So that's a good question old-school. You know, my attorneys back in the 80s where people will be looked at. I have two questions. You mentioned you mentioned earlier when you when I asked you about the casting process and how you got the role and how there was a different role that didn't work out after be nosy because I've we found out that a lot of actors auditioning for different roles, but wound up getting something else. Like like Shane Johnson went out for Tommy, but then he wound up getting the Cooper Saxe row. So I have to be nosy. What was the role that you can get? Um, that's a good question. I'm gonna have to get back to you. I'm really gonna have to ask Courtney because I'm John maybe it wasn't even about a specific role in might have been more of a general meeting. Like I'll find something for you in this show me it was you know, we're going back now this that was like seven years ago will old and sleep deprived. Because we have a four month old sleeping in the other room with doesn't like to sleep too much if it comes to me, I'll spit it out before. He was always Proctor with Proctor wasn't around and season one. So maybe she was going to bring Proctor in and see them what I don't know, please. Yeah, I'll get back to you. There's another question that someone asked on Instagram at flavor fat flavor Flex. He wants to know has Doug Allan. Talk to you about a sequel to entourage. No, I mean I think like jokingly maybe every now and then like well, well, he'll say something like I like will see something in the news and maybe we'll he was like, oh I'm right about this will do it in the sequel. But I mean we've all gotten up there age-wise, you know, I don't think we can all be living together all in our 40s and and some even older, you know, I think we had such a good run without her eyes eight years and a movie almost a hundred episodes. Like I think we really did. Everything we could have possibly done with those characters. I mean, I wouldn't say no because I love those guys and it will be a great opportunity just to hang out with them and kind of do like the reunions tour, but I really think we I think we did all that we could do with those characters. We had a great run. So I think it's I think everybody's kind of like, yeah, we did it. Well now let it let it live on Let it go Let it go rest a little now. This is not a trick question, but I have to ask so what's next? next for Jerry It's not a trick question, but it is a tricky question. I do have a show that I am producing with Courtney Camp. I know I've brought her up a bunch of times and I choose just one of my favorite writers of all time. So her a nice only show to HBO and she's in the writing process right now and like the thick of it doing what she does and obviously there are steps that have to go to make sure that gets on the air but going off her track record. I think it stands a really good shot kind of set in the I'll divide police corruption in New York. So, you know, she's going to bringing, you know, she's going to bring it. So yeah, hopefully that would be the next thing which we would find out about real soon. But it's the life of an actor man. I've had a great job for five years and then you know, it's over now. So it's like oh, I really got to go. I got to get out there and clean myself up and look again. The good news about this is Southern offer a few months. My son was born four months ago. So I really Got a chance to spend a lot of time with him in these early days. So I think you know if I found myself on another show again working 50 60 hours. I'm going to like look back at this time of I really got four awesome months with him before like I'm like, I'm just a stay-at-home dad right now and I love I wish I could do just this great congratu congratulations as well. As you are still considered a newlywed, right? So congratulations to you and your wife. Yeah, actually, I mean two years. I mean it's flown by but she is definitely the better half as oh, yeah, dude, look at my Instagram you could tell she's the better half of this race. Yeah. Well we want to thank you so much. It was a pleasure that a couple of times that we've met you at a different screenings and stuff for for power and you were always so nice and you you know, you took photographs with us you sap you stopped and you chatted with us and we want to thank you so much because we love character and we love the work that you do and we're just we're really grateful that you have the time to stop and chat with us. Well, I want to take a couple of seconds and thank you guys. Thank all the power fans like everybody who's a part of the power Universe, you know going into this last season everybody knew we have to deliver on this final season because the amount of love and respect and also just like Jen you enjoy watching this show that I've seen from the people who thoroughly enjoy it. It's I've really never seen anything like it. It's been the best part of the job. So I think everybody out there listening I beg you guys I call that coldest stuff matters a lot when getting the word out about the show and I think after six years now, it's really I mean we're looking at it now. I really do think it's it's a historic shown that people be talking about for a long time. Even after it's gone. Yeah. Yeah and we agree. Yeah. Well, thank you guys. Thank you. Thank you so much. Oh, wow. Nice so much fun so much fun that the chat wouldn't but now we got to get going before we continue one of the ways we keep all these shows for you free is by our amazing sponsors. And today Spotify is one of our sponsors on Spotify. You can listen to all of your favorite artists and podcasts in one place for free. You don't even need a premium account Spotify as a huge catalogue of podcasts on every topic including the one you're listening to right now on Spotify. You can follow your favorite podcast. So you don't miss an episode premium users can even download Old episodes to listen to offline wherever they are and you can easily share what you're listening to with all your friends and following on Instagram. If you haven't done so already be sure to download the Spotify app and search for AfterBuzz TV on Spotify or browse podcasts in the your library tab. Also, make sure you follow us you never miss an episode of AfterBuzz TV. All right, so drains back agent Donovan's Dad. Okay. So what are your thoughts on Drake Hill and agent Donovan after particular rights a business? So what's your thoughts on that? Some people thought that that was messed up for Dre. Did I say no, but you know, it is messed up but he is a gangster we know that from he's a street dude. And so if you're thinking from the mind of a street dude, he's like I have an opportunity right now to get out of here and not testify. So if you're looking at it from that vantage point you can see and understand why he did that. But yeah, I was like Dre your Buster for that like that ain't cool. Like he just took a bullet for you trying to save you and your daughter right but I can understand why he did that as well was in his arms. She she I saw him shoot the gun and was like, what's happening here? Hello, come here blood. So really quickly. Shout out to 50 in his first directorial debut. Yeah. I think he did a great job on this episode. Okay? Yeah, that's right direction and the script are two separate things. Okay. Why it was necessary for Donovan to die is Dre's history. Dude. He does not like cops and then on top of that the fact that he couldn't safely get him to where he needed to be. You can't you the all of the agents in the task force? It's like the Real Housewives of New York. They gossip every nobody can ever keep a secret. No one could ever keep a secret. So so Cooper didn't know he found out through the dude who was messing with Angela last. Anyway, yeah events happy opium. And so now they are just a couple minutes away. And now all of a sudden everybody comes, you know, after Dre like there's too many leaks Dre had to kill him go about his business and then on top of that you wouldn't sold the man by telling them that he's a awful daddy the look on his face when he told him when he questioned something about him. And then the the looked at Jay gave him like are you real? Seriously? You got any wasn't very good. I've no no, he's not. No he's not but you know, but a person's ego is Is everything so I felt that it was necessary for frame to go but I mean, you know, I like Tai ya Tai is a good dude. So I mean sorry to see him go but I know he Utah He's consistently working and doing all that stuff. So, you know, he'll be he'll be good. Okay, so Cooper Saxe and Blanca and dry so Cooper Saxe I put his he's a puts, you know, I think Dre will probably kill Cooper before someone kills them. He's made it. He's made a completely per personal and Blanca blase about Blanca basically gave the full. I'm down to what she thinks happened. She's right as rain and Cooper's like no goes. Did it talk? She's right except for the fact that she still believes that ghost killed Angela but as far as the breakdown of it and she was she gets she said what the alternate scenario is, but I mean, I don't think I think out of all of these people I think Cooper going to be one of the last men standing I think so to think I drank getting out and him having this now internal beef with Ray has anything to do with that Cooper has been consistently the only one One who has played each and every side successfully. So for that reason alone, I think Cooper is going to last to the end now who they think is going to who they think actually kill Angela will see but I don't think Dre getting out and him having that stand down with Cooper's gonna do anything for Cooper. Okay. I got bigger fish to fry. We're worried about our the street. Really really really. Yeah, seriously, so Tasha to read ghost in the Next Generation who so Amelia I mean if we what we know about PowerBook to is factual and we're all assuming because we haven't really heard much it is see, it does seem like it's set up for this new regime to be the continuation of would get already started. However, I just got a problem with that little white boy being Tommy if that's what you want. But you also have to remember that Tommy just didn't wake up and all of a sudden become this hook this who Adam This Hood do because you have to remember ghost taught him everything he used to get beat up. He got totally not my thing. He protected him and also, I don't know how this is going to sound but a white person surrounded himself by black people It's A build-up for you to become but he did choke like I hear you but what time he got beat up. He was in work. I think I'll be interested interested to see That character the new Tommy if he's the new Tommy at all because he could just be this little pond. Maybe he's setting up to read maybe he's going to give him some connector something that he needs and then disappear. He has I feel like he has a lot of Tommy weighs about him. He's very impulsive like I like I see I see some similarities with them. And then also when you think about when when I don't know just Tommy jr. I don't know if I don't know his name is I'm sorry, but a little below Junior solo jr. Brings his rich. White friends in and go to Junior Tariq basically has the check him on the things. Let's be real. Tommy's not a boss. Right? So ghost teaches them everything and prior to their to their to their breakup goes as always having to to play that big brother checking him about the things that he needs to do. So I I mean I can see it to me. I trust that it wouldn't be that obvious by getting a part of me is like, I hope it wouldn't This writing like this. It'll tell me this even though that's what it that that is what it is. I believe and I think all of the internet has caught on and said that but I don't think it's as obvious as like he's got to have exactly what time he has like every single trade. I don't think it's gotta be that obvious. We just kind of see it for what it is like yeah makes sense. What's your take on Tasha Junior on Fe Fe? So Fe is either the feds plant or or when she was talking about how her brother was killed not too long ago. It got me started to thinking like is her brother was her brother. The one that Ray Ray shot like was here because she's always asking about the connect and that makes me concerned because why are you this girl that was so anti the streets and what that represented maybe it had it's because of her brother's death always wanting to know where the drugs are coming from. Why are you that curious? But then I'm also wondering on the flip side is her brother somehow connected to Ray Ray or those licks that they were doing. Is that who we got shot? You know what and that could be? Jew. I just don't know that they have time to do all of that in this season, right? Like that's why season that's why PowerBook to yeah. I mean like it could do. No Mighty explore. Yeah, maybe maybe I just think that is going a different route. I think that she wants to know the game. She wants the sort of like Tasha. I mean, hey, we're doing all the comparisons here. I think it's kind of like that. Like, let me ask questions because I want to be in on this I want to you know be with With you on this and Tasha new to connect exactly staying consistent with who their mom cared. Yeah, Tasha new to connect Tasha knew how to businesses ran. She knew she knew who ran each set. She knew everything she knew how to clean the money and also and also feel that because they got rid of Canaan pills all in one day, but it's possible. It's possible because you know, but it's possible so they got rid of all the drugs and now he has no he has no connect he has No access to the drugs and now she possibly I mean, I don't know what part of New York she's from but she possibly might know that can she might she might be the connect to the drugs and the connected to reeks heart. I think that's I think the Kinect is Tommy cause Tommy people they don't show us things for no reason and the fact that Tommy took Lala or Tasha Keisha to the warehouse and told her specifically all of the drugs that eventually Tariq in his roommate and baby Tasha were talking about I didn't see that as a coincidence because they have everything that they're selling that they need and they need some more Outlets. They need more Outlets exactly. So so read Allah says I don't trust Fe do we all agree there or do you got I don't do this because I don't know if it's I don't know if it's the writing but to go from self-righteous to to desperate in two minutes to me. I don't know if I don't want to blame it on the writing or but that's what they told us about Tasha Tasha was going to accounting School. She was she was about her business true. She was in the car with ghosts that got pulled over and she hid the gun for ghost. It wasn't him pressuring her. It wasn't nothing. No, Switcheroo. It was her being like okay. I'm just gonna be done right you don't forget accounts to speaking of Tasha and ghost. Forget it speaking of touching goes really quick. So so Tasha, it feels underappreciated. So she's at the new apartment to wreak is not feeling the vibe. She's pissed and then he puts the money on the table. She's like where you get this from to realize and says that it's from from Canaan and then right as she's getting ready to go off and reveal the information which I keep saying just tell the boy but ghost knocks on the door and now all of a sudden because there's a power struggle between the two of them. They got a butt heads and they completely forget that she felt completely forgets that Tariq has a lot of money on the table to offer her. Thoughts have no. All right, so hit it go to unfold. I think I some point in time. Let's talk about Tommy and ghosts. But Forest Split Second. I do want to talk about Tommy and his interactions with Lakeisha and this whole thing. It just bothers me it everything in me says this is wrong. I don't like how it's going down like them getting out the car and he's got this super key goes around opens her door. She steps out my even her best Beyonce. From the diva. She is completely late from head to toe but you know, what was the first thing she said, please please no to come together. The first thing she said is I don't know if I'm ready for all this time me, of course is our first thing out of her mouth. Yeah, we know this is so it's like this the it just doesn't belong I don't like that. He's bringing her in and she's very reluctant to do so she does it obviously with the whole scene at the court, but I don't like that but She's toast. Yes Keisha cells and we're changes. She possibly because I wonder if she a snitch or will she become a snitch that makes four toes too. I don't think she's I think she's really trying to just be down for Tommy. I think it of course. I don't think this one is going to end well, but I think the problem is she's chasing. She still chasing Tasha. These are all of the things that Tasha has done. Yeah. So the fact that she wants the bag she want that lifestyle. She want to be Tasha and ghost so bad to the point where that's she's like, I'll do it. I'll do it. Were you want yeah fortunately now she's talking about she go clean the money at the hair salon. So yeah, and he's trusting her to do that. How do you know she knows how to do it correctly, but you like books but you also have to remember Tommy like I always say at Tommy's not a boss boss why he has his whole goon squad around him and he does not know how to he doesn't know. He doesn't have the boy goes has so he is so because he knows how to he's basically controlling. He's basically controlling Keisha, but you also have to remember for everybody that gets with Tommy dies indeed. Yeah, he's he's controlling her but he's using Tasha's information to control her but he's using Keisha like I he's playing both of you. He's actually playing both of them. Like you can hear what he says to to Keisha. He's like, yeah fuck that, you know what I'm saying? And then to to Tasha he's saying another thing about like, yeah, he's just got to get on board like, you know or whatever. He's playing both of them, which I guess is smart. Maybe he learned that from Ghost. He learned a little bit of street, but there's a scene that Powerful scene that we could talk about. I know we're skipping around but guys we're running late on time. So I'm just going to jump to it. We also we know that Jason said both of them up to deliver Alicia Jimenez, right? Yes. Well ghost thought it was really smart and I actually think that this might come to fruition at some point where he thought it was smart to call Tommy and say, you know, let's take out. Let's cut our losses Hojo. Yeah. I think that that it was a smart move on his for him to do. There's something else that I wanted to point out. Did you guys notice when that phone call happened the the complete contrast between the two of them ghost has a nice refreshing beverage or drink in his hand and he's got the city life going on. It's the good boy status. It's like, you know the money it represents the business the clean life and then he's calling Tommy who is at the he's that beautiful scene. I don't know where it is like under the bridge or something where you're overlooking the city. It just represents Street. Yeah, it's all the contrast between between the two of them. I just thought was beautifully shot. And you know, I guess we got to give it to 50 on that. So do you guys think that ultimately that's because I think the fans really miss that you know, the two of them together riding for something like that. Do you think it'll happen that way? I think I think ghosts will eventually have to kill Jason by himself. And then once he kills you Jason, you know, Tommy then doesn't have a distro. So then will he go to his daddy side of the people the Italians so that's going to force Tommy to have to figure something else out because he refuses to have to work with ghosts. So and because the two of them are or in this contest, you know ghost is a smarter one. And you know, when you do dirt by yourself, you tend not to get caught. I just have a feeling that at the end of the day. Yes, they're upset with each other to the point where they try to kill each other but when you ask possibly ghost, not Tommy either Jason or Tommy killed either one he's going to kill you. Jason so I don't necessarily think I think one I think the Redemption is going to come not by force but just by sheer nature of their relationship so I wouldn't be surprised if a if a ghost killed Jason because he was trying to save Tommy or something of that Dynamic hear them coming together. And at this point to me, it's too soon. Someone goes called him and said let's do this together. I was I was like, well, we only on episode three. Yeah. I need to be for a little longer try to kill more time. I can't canoes do we all agree that the kidnapping scene was garbage? Yes trash unrealistic. Try it have a ghost in his little dad cap coming in by yourself. What you going to do? What was shaking with your screwdriver? And you know, I just let me have the better plan. And I wish we knew what his plan was but and see that's my thing. I don't know if ghosts necessarily have to plan. I think that ghost was probably just going to get Alicia kill her go back to Jason gonna get her out though. You're in a federal building we can't and that's not what Jason wanted. He wanted. He wanted her delivered. I know that but yeah ghost does is not necessarily trying to take orders from him in that type of way because he's trying to get goes to be a part of the game of the of the drug thing and ghost is not having it. I don't know what Was he going to put like a tiger up in the van? That's what we'd ever know. We'll never know you seem like that was the point of the scene to show for once she had the better plan exactly that guy thought he was going to really do some damage and write C and that I'll be there when they cross paths and Ghost with the time and he kind of looked at him like oh shit. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Back to his teresi roots. Remember they were going to start an ambulance company together. Oh, okay. Okay, but super quickly. Did you see like that was actually something that Tommy pointed out to ghost. He said that's why you lost because you don't have anybody like you ain't got nobody. So I mean, I was like a directing that we all feel he did but he didn't he also mentioned that when go says that you basically that you need me or that I'm better than you. Yeah goes all Tommy also acknowledge that but then turned it around with as you say. Said yeah. Yeah anything else? No, let's let's let's move on. Okay hit it. Councilman Tate Cassandra. This is gonna be good. First of all, happy birthday Lorenz tell ya that we got the birthday treat the maybe maybe not depending upon how fast because they're driving take it Cassandra and date having that little Affair that sex thing was rather extended know and a lot of conversation during it, but you know, sexy made me uncomfortable. It did I was like it ain't nothing sexy about this act in my opinion why they did that because all of a sudden councilman Frankie Lymon went from being counseling Frankie Lymon to bring it out his older counseling like he loves to different people and I feel like they stretching out these violent scenes are these sexual scenes to show us like, oh no this this is who he is. He's in the street. With his wife what in the it's crazy and then let's talk about really quickly her telling her husband. Well, he apologized and and pooh-poohing him. Clearly. You are just a speed bump and she has higher aspiration. I mean completely you can read you can see the subject. So Cassandra obviously is married to to Derek. He's kind of like a Cyrus beene. So she's using him to power its power position. She's quiet. With him for four for a better game. She said to him this campaign is bigger than you so much bigger than you so she has ulterior motives and she's with anything. She know she's weird simply for that. Yeah, but the only fired now you have the other DNC lady Ramona Ramona Ramona Garrity who comes into the place and now she and ghost has some type of thing and now ghost is going to f her in order to control. Hey, you know how you know so we can see it. Yeah. Well, maybe it's just not that deep maybe power riders know that we like sex on Power and they got to have some Do it. There's your answer is yes, let's not those feelings. You gotta understand. Hey does anybody Miss Angie really quick? Do we feel that? She's missing he's so I miss Angela being the root of the drama. I don't miss her. But now that she gone I'm like, well then now who's going to cause trouble? All right. Okay fair enough. Anything else? Okay. Wait, so regarding Ramona in tape, what do we know about that? We know that she works for the DNC her husband was what a member of congress senate something like that cheated with some hookers and some video and she's a little bitter but she is a for whatever reason it sounds like the DNC would like him to be Governor. Yes. So do we do you think based off of the conversation that they were having when it was Ramona tape and Tasha at the dinner table? Power published go ahead. Yeah the struggle right power struggle. Okay. So do we think that there's anything there's a path between Ramona in councilman tape? I don't know. I think that you think so, I think so. I think something might come of it. What was the line that was said notes. Don't fail me. Basically she was talking about when your past like being something going wrong with your past, but it creates opportunities and she looked directly at Tate. Eight and it was something that they knew between its two of them and then Tasha caught it she was looking at both of them like he was going on she did. Yeah, so I think that there's something there that we just don't know about that will possibly come up and that could be something that may be a power struggle between Tate and ghosts because he's going to be smashing her and maybe Tate had already smashed. I don't know but I also think that that Ramona clearly runs she runs in control State and and once that once goes comes into the picture I think is going to cause division between the two. Yeah. Sorry just to year 200 your question Jill if we miss Angela and Angel was that no one cares about Angela. Don't miss that bony chick at all. Okay. Is there anything else it would not be fun for your mama to run the daycare by herself a great way to clean money Tasha would you know seeing that cash flow in there that was Be interesting. Mom. You need to get a job to not depend on your daughter and extract dealer husband again. Yeah, but now it's clear all the things that she's ever said to Tasha in the past what she's making it very clear. Now. This is why she felt like Tasha needs to work it out because she wouldn't have to work either. Right? Well, yeah and be babysitting and eventually eventually she's going to get on board with this because when Tasha presents to her that this is a financial gain, she's going to be completely with it. Yeah I passed away. Okay, so so what's up Camellia? Are you doing fantastic? Okay, so we have this new segment where we have top moments of the AfterBuzz power after show past six seasons past six seasons. And so now let's drop this clip for this week's top moment Colby's of the week for episode 9 of season 2 of Power goes to Canaan. Obviously. I don't think anybody is in disagreement with this and I made a list of the things that came in was a piece of shit for he was terrorizing the community soon. He got out of prison with that Pelle Pelle coat on sneakers in the whole situation with her popping up on Tasha like some dude. That's it. The hey you text everything you have on your cell phone here that he disappeared and came back on the Chinatown Bus cold he cut dry Springs tongue out. He shattered raised poor little dreams about getting off the block. He killed his own son. He killed his own son after sending them out to kill ghosts. Because like Sean said you just a bitter old Thug and and now Dre you gonna get the cold pizza it because you still hanging with dude, he's gonna kill you too. So let us know online. So for Old Times Sake drop us with this week's cold piece of the week Lord. Three copies in a week for power season 6 episode 3 goes to Dre's daughter Dre's daughter survived an ambush. She's survived a federal raid. She got another black man. She got another brother's blood Splash on her face peek over the hood and was like all of this. She ended up on scape. The train station where she just moseying along they talking about spelling words and her first day of kindergarten. So for that reason, I would like to give cold piece of the week to Dre's daughter who I just found out her name is heaven the character. So shout out to heaven for being scorned and battered and eating therapy for the rest of our lives without shedding a tear what exactly I know what people talk about. She said to tears after after the first shootout and then once Then once they took the baby she let out to cries and then when Dre killed Donovan nothing, hey, she's a Baby G right now this child. So now let's go into predictions your AfterBuzz TV predictions will start it out. Bam. You always go Lassie barks Okay, so I've said many times before that take a dice. Would you like to know why I heard that he dies. Okay. Okay. So if you don't want to hear this just mute it and then when you see me the throw the thumbs up then you can turn me back up. Okay. So when we were in New York when you guys when I was waiting for you guys to come downstairs after you guys are doing a red carpet. I talked to this guy who was a background actor background actor. And he said that he did some show called Power at the time. He didn't know what the show was that he was asked to do this role and the scene and the scene that he shot was spoiler alert was some counsel some council person that got shot and they and there was a there was a reporter the scene was a reporter was reporting the death outside of some Club. So I think that is obviously take but as far as who killed take I think it could be Derek the husband once he finds out once he finds out kitty. Yeah, once he finds out because Tate already beat his ass and now you have a nice girl. Mmm-hmm. But I've always thought okay back up. So I've always thought that team was going to die. But as far as who kills them, I think it's now I think it's Derek interesting and then I'll leave I have plenty more but that's a hell of a prediction. But what if it's ghost because because I think it could be ghosts because as you said the the whole now, he's becoming a politician and so I think it would be really cool. If one more prediction. I think it would be really cool. If everybody died except for Ghost and Tasha and then they get back to the need to die, but they get back together Tasha obviously realizes that that life is not what it's about the two of them stay together, but then Tariq decides nah, I'm cool. I'm standing this drug life and now they have to deal with their son but ghosts. Eyes at the end of the seat at series is my opinion. All right, I'm done. I'ma let everybody else go. I'll skip my predictions I gave him kind of early. Okay? Yeah, and I said one of mine, I definitely think that Ramona is going to be the new love interest and she could possibly be somewhat of what gets involved between Tate and ghost but they have so much more to be, you know at odds about and then I do want to say that ghost and Tommy will partner up we've seen it before and maybe it's old but I mean, maybe it's just something in me that wants that to happen. So imma leave it there. For my predictions, I actually think councilman Frankie Lymon will continue on and be one of the anchors in the new show because I don't see them stretching out this character this this past season and showing us who he used to be keep mentioning this Damocles child project. Yeah and just leaving it be there has to be some element of raina's legacy and that left for me and my son to carry. Oh, sorry. Yeah. So I feel like that he is going to be one of the players in the next one. I think it's the front the very end. I think all of them have to die. Especially I think Tommy might go to jail because he ain't snitching on nobody. He's already said that and I think ghost has to die. Actually think Tariq will kill ghost. Yeah. That's what I think too. Oh, I don't like it. I don't like it was foreshadowing in that when ghost told him in the like with the fake Hector he gave them every year I have goes to you just then and and because because came and killed his son now to keep yeah, and then there was another foreshadowing moment when Alicia told Jason, right? Where she was killed which was a very awesome gruesome killing by the way, but she said whoever did this to me will betray you too. So that's the same time as Pink Suit. Yeah, so that would leave Tommy. That's who she's talking about. So maybe you have it we wrap. No I did I did. Yeah, it's so hard to just really quick. It's so hard to figure out who you think is going to die because Courtney they all got production deals with the network. So it's like you don't know if there's a There's a there's a spin-off. Are they going to do a prequel they have so many deals. It's kind of hard to figure out who you think is going to die. And then who yeah want to continue. I think everybody has some point is just going to die. Yes history show and it's true to the streets. They have that. Yeah, that's it. Yep Camellia let everybody know what you've been up to and where you could be found. Well, you can find me across the R2 X Camellia on social media that's Twitter Instagram and Facebook. You can check me out. I got shows if you're in the LA area coming up at Camellia.com. That's like any and Ophelia and also still got the podcast happy hour. Make sure you guys check us out on iTunes and all apps or podcast can be heard at happy hour a shot of conversation and we miss Cornelia. Thank you so much for being back here today. You can catch me at Robin airs on all of my social media platforms catch some of my my dope quo. Out there on my Instagram page. She has a lobby lobby land nuggets evangelist. But also you guys can check us out at Power after plug on Instagram as well. I'm Jill Munroe hit me up at stiletto Jill shut out to Camellia for coming in and blessing us with her presence. I know you guys are happy about that. And yeah, that's the Little Joe everywhere and you can find me on all social media at BAM barracks and thank you to our code. Thank you to Camellia who stepped in for Jimmy if you don't know. No it go back and watch some of the old Power after shows. But Camellia was a part of season two three seasons two and three and we went also thank our special guest Gerry Ferraro plays Joe Proctor and next week. Yeah Avery Mason who plays Black Grimace will be joining us so you can't wait to talk to him because I want to miss that he only got one kidney. You need to find out about this kidney, brother. 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Join the panel to talk episode 3 with special guest Jerry Ferrara! About Power After Show: Follow our POWER AFTER SHOW, to see how our hosts follow a man who successfully lives his crazy double life. We discuss this extravagant lifestyle with all the surprising twists that occur in the show. Subscribe here for in depth discussions, reviews and recaps including some of your favorite cast members. ABOUT POWER: The series follows James St. Patrick, nicknamed "Ghost", owner of a popular New York City nightclub. In addition, he is a major player in one of the city's biggest illegal drug networks. He struggles to balance these two lives, and the balance topples when he realizes he wants to leave the drug ring in order to support his legitimate business. It appears James "Ghost" St. Patrick has it all -- a drop-dead gorgeous wife, a stunning Manhattan penthouse, and the power and success that come with owning hot new nightclub Truth. But a closer look reveals a man living a double life. When Ghost isn't tending to his Fortune 500 business, he's catering to clients of another operation: a drug empire that serves only the rich and influential. While loyal sidekick Tommy protects the cash-cow narcotics venture at all costs, Ghost's new reality is using Truth as more than a front to launder money. It's a way out of the drug game and into a legitimate life with his family, even if everything he loves becomes unknowingly threatened. "Power" is co-executive produced by Curtis "50 Cent" Jackson (who also co-stars) and show creator Courtney Kemp ("The Good Wife"). 