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Is there an X-Men Series in development for Disney plus all that and more today on Marvel movie news. Welcome to popcorn top featuring movie discussion. No an interview we talked moving and And talks Marvel movie news. Oh good. Yeah afternoon to you our merry Marvel lights. Welcome back to the studio. I'm Zach Wilson and extend your Martinez is here. Yes. I'm here. Whoo-ha. We have got it episode today. Is this episode to 10 we are coming to you live from Venice Italy because that's where Spider-Man is set, which is a weird charge, but that's what's happening. We're going to talk about that so much more quick some Stuff that you can do to help to keep up with the show throughout the week. You can follow the show on Twitter at Marvel news ptn. You can also follow popcorn talk our Network at the popcorn talk if you can you can find us on YouTube at youtube.com slash popcorn Talk network go to iTunes subscribe rate review, all that stuff helps us out in a big way. Let's get started on this episode. Let's also give some love to cult but doze tweeting from the starjammer. Thank you call. What's up guy? This Spider-Man trailer, you know, I do have to say I need to get more Spider-Man shirts because this is my go-to but like gee there's so much Spider-Man stuff. But yeah, I'm so excited. That's true. I have like a couple Gwen pieces. And but today I'm rocking My Ghost Rider jacket basically people like it mainly because this is also a waterproof jacket, so I wear it when it rains and it's raining a lot here. It's pouring guys. It's almost like we're not in Ale it's almost a quart coming to you live from Venice Italy where it rains a lot more speaking of Venice Italy. Let's take a look at that trailer. We're going to talk through it and then we will dissect it. There's so much Tom pack in this trailer. Let's take a look. So this is a huge this this scene feels really an awkward but huge implications from everything here because like not only like obviously can't menos but this cute adorable. What's it happen? Yeah. I love it because just check itself has implications for endgame. They actively cut his Birth year off of that passport. I just want to go what it will take a look at it. Europe doesn't really need a friendly neighborhood spider leaving the costume behind that's a choice Ben Parker got a middle name. I'm the suitcase there. So she doesn't have the comics fairly. So I must thank you. This is cute. You look pretty too adorable this part terrified. This is Spider-Man like super fun. Like we're having a good time and then the world catches up to him. Yeah, you realize hey, not everyone. This is also just like Nick Fury ties all the MCU together looking clothes, like seeing him that with Spider-Man is like, oh my God. This is music cues the music you yeah. This is where it really takes the shift in the trailer. Obviously. We'll see how dark it. I just like I lost it. The music in this is all right. We got the Elementals. Oh so that so yeah. Well, we'll talk about that. Are you going to step up or not? Yeah will step up. I'm not sterile. I'm scared. I know I don't have any powers. What are you gonna do about it? But no powers comes no responsibility Amy. Well, that's a boom Joan Hall. Yes, really? Look at that. Sorry podcast with me. Well, I was freaking out so much the first time I saw it Oh, who is that guy? He's like Iron Man and Thor rolled into one. He's no Spider-Man. What is it with you and Spider-Man what he looks out for the neighborhood has a dope suit and I really respect him some dickwad. Yay. Crap. That was a lot the first time I watched the trailer. I was inside. I was like just watching it. Then I had to run out the door to go to work and I miss the fact that we actually saw the helmet. I was like, oh they just did. Into the helmet yet. Then there was like, no. Absolutely we did back in second. I was like, oh, yeah, very clearly. I was just so excited and I think I'm staring at the his like beams more than I was looking at him. I love that trailer. What did you enjoy the trailer? I freaking dead. Yeah. I did a trailer reaction video and I think I know okay. I'm pretty sure I'm not alone in this but when you first see a Marvel movie trailer and it ends you're kind of just like left there like Holy moly, there was a lot to unpack there and you obviously like some of us go back and you know, try to really dissect every single frame. So I was just watching maybe one more time but there's something about these trailers that they're always so freaking good and there's so many gems and I know people like, you know have really gotten into like, oh, hey, well, this means this this means this it's just a lot and I love it. It got me really hard for them. But like I said the music in it was perfect. I don't know actually offhand if this is giggy nose back. Yes. Great. I love Jackie. No my favorite composers and I love the just the way that he did in the first movie. He's using that Spider-Man classic song, but rewriting it in these big orchestral pieces and it like activates every exciting part of them. Did you notice that so we started with Wanna Be Sedated that and then as soon as nerd gets sedated he wanted to be today. He's just so excited to meet Nick Fury's like your Dart me sure. Yeah. But yes, there was a lot a lot of like little things. I know. I don't know if you want to just go ahead and jump right into it. Yeah, let's let's let's take a look at some of these pictures as we go. Well actually before we do before we do pictures. Yes, because the one thing I will say about this trailer that I'm a little nervous about is I feel like I can already and this is the same way. I felt about homecoming because these are this is Sony cutting a trailer not Disney. Yeah, and there's a key difference that Disney is has Disney Marvel has been really really good. About hiding the true plots in their trailers like end game where they've said that. It's only the first 15 minutes and like nah, that's not always true for all their moves. But like usually you can't really piece together everything from from a Disney Marvel trailer. Sony doesn't have the same restraint and Homecoming by and large the homecoming spoilers. The only twist that they managed to keep out of there was that Liz and the vulture were related that one still surprise me. Theaters but I feel and so I'm hoping that there will be some what some kind of switch but I can we'll can will talk about like what than we think the story is after we look at the photos. But I feel like I know the whole story from watching this trailer, but we'll talk about that in a minute. So like when we open up was like so we see this check that happy is carrying because signed by Pepper Potts for $500,000. And it's the the fact that it's signed by Pepper Potts has interesting implications because is it is it is she and there's enough doubt but is she sign that check because she's the CEO of Stark Industries because Tony sort of made her that yeah before or is it because it's on behalf of Tony Stark's Foundation because he didn't make it a 10 game. But either way are we thinking the peppers gonna make it then? Oh, I think Peppers pretty Safe. Yeah, well that sort of implied here right Pepper Potts is alive and well during Spider-Man far from home. Yeah, but we don't even know where Pepper Potts is. I think she was confirmed by just the Russo Brothers as having survived the snap. So regardless like we haven't seen her in the trailers, but I think they just told us like, oh she wasn't she was one of the people that made it through through the decimation. Yeah, but so she's a rat Pepper Potts is around during this but we don't but we don't know if Tony Stark is around. Yeah and we'll get yeah, I have a lot of theories about that. Yeah. Well, this is the time but well, okay. Well, here's the thing. So later Nick Fury's telling Peter. Hey, like we're counting on you blah blah blah. Or what you something about like being alone or like you don't have anyone else? So in my mind Stark is gone like gone gone and that's why Peter doesn't even want to take his suit. He's just like I'm done with it. Like I had a mentor and everything was fine. And then everything went to crap and then you know, we got snapped away and now here we are. So yeah. Yeah, that's for sure done till like that sound effect. There's some rumors about I won't say what the rumors are so you can link up with some rumors about well how Robert Downey Jr. Might be involved in the future of the of Marvel movies that I really liked the ideas of I still think he makes it out of I think I still think my I still maintain my through that I think Tony Stark makes it out of there in one form or another to continue on. Yeah, but I still think cap is dead. I think both are gone. Yeah, I think Them has to stick around at least in some form. Well Tony could be like Anna Jarvis kind of form. Yes, which has comic book. That was the rumors. Oh, I think it's just it's a theory because Tony Stark has existed as an AI recently in the comic books and then he came back for real. But so is a i Tony Stark like instead of Karen living in Spider-Man suit. Oh see, I like that Uncle Tony happier. He's just like talking to us. You hey, Uncle Tony be funny next photo that I pulled was Spider-Man taking a selfie. Do you think Spider-Man? It has created an Instagram account for himself, like is does does Peter create a Spider-Man Instagram handle? I feel like absolutely I mean, yeah, I but I wonder because if he doesn't it's interesting because something happened between that shot. That scene and then him going to you know, Europe where he's like, I don't want to I don't want to take the suit. I think he just wanted a break is what he was saying. That's what I really love that idea that he's just like he's still like saving the day it's not like he's not it's not the Spider-Man no more. Yeah storyline buddy is him just being like look. I need some we all need time off from work now and again Peter's just like I need a break. I'm going I'm going overseas. I'm going on vacation. I actually want to Vacation. It's like, you know what it is. Is the equivalent of taking or leaving your laptop when you go on vacation see I yeah, I would say that but also my laptop sucks. I would say looking at your emails. Yeah kind of but yeah for me it's like if I will have access to that stuff because I have my phone but if I have my laptop with me, it means I can do legitimate work like my laptop. I can I can edit on here. I can do Photoshop. I can like I can write things like everything I can do in there and I can do it. That stuff on my phone but not effectively so I've decided not to work if I leave my laptop at home. You heard that here first guys, if you want to take a break leave your laptop at home do it. Yeah. So yeah, I really want to see Spidey Instagram and 1 plus if he was he could probably get sponsorships, you know, you know Spider-Man Spider-Man account is like doing real. Well, he's got plenty of followers so he could get those social media deals. I swipe up. Yeah, it would just be it would be the it could be the modern-day equivalent of him selling his photos to the Daily Bugle is him selling out on Instagram hashtag sponsored hashtag and oh God. Yep, pretty much. So the birth so the birth to the passport puts his date of birth as August 10th, which was the first was the publishing date of Amazing Fantasy 15. Spider-Man but where it where the you would see a year next to these things does not exist. Because why because they're with Marvel like you don't want to lock yourselves into that. They got in so much trouble with the first time. They acknowledged a year difference with Spider-Man homecoming like eight years ago and then it broke the time line, you know, I didn't I paused on this Frame and I was like, yeah, everything looks good. Okay, cool next frame. So interesting. Yeah, this this next photo I pulled Because it makes me happy and I know Christian Blatt is here outside. It makes him happy in the same way confirmation. Spider-Man is a Mets fan. He's got a Piazza pennant on the back up on his wall. He's from Queens. So of course, he's a Mets fan of course, but it makes me smile. I like that. So I pulled I grew up a Mets fan. I'm third generation Mets fan. I yeah edges like that. Spider-Man's a Mets fan down with the Yankees moving on. We don't even do that. I pulled a photo of Nick Fury because he looks cool. Okay. So when you first saw Ned get hit with something where you concerned for his safety where you like? Oh, he's gonna be fine. No, I assumed it was very, okay. Okay, let me go. It's the only way I knew that Nick Fury was in this movie and it just is like yeah that adds up. Yeah at this parcel by parcel agents like I know The the main villain of the movie is that it's not like I know Mysterio's in this movie. That's not Mysterio style. Nick Fury's in this movie. That is his style. Yeah now we're getting Nick Fury. Yeah. I love Samuel Jackson is rolled so good, but the suit is we could take a look because this is the slightly different suit. It's much more in line with Amazing Fantasy Spider-Man like that first ditko drawing. It's the blacks instead of Blues. Yeah big web. Arms, like this looks like a ditko suit, which is cool. Just nerding out here guys. Sorry. Okay. Okay, so the Elementals and like we so, so apparently, that's Maria Hill. Yes when Amy? Yeah. Yeah someone I do trailer reaction video. So I did react to this trailer. It's up on my channel youtube.com forward slash Amy Cassandra. Yes. Someone was asking like who is that but that is called be smolders. That is Maria Hill. Whose did confirm Yeah on her Instagram. She said hey, that's me. So that's her. Yeah, but so we look beyond that and this is where it starts to get interesting because we just we so this guy so we have the we had thus they will earth-based monster. Now, we have Firebase monster and then we have this water-based monster who we've seen plenty of well the so Tom Holland referred to these some minor spoilers The Tom Holland I slipped up on probably he referred to these guys as the Elementals. Yeah is a comic book thing, but I don't think they're even there so far away from everything going on here that I don't think the actual I think they're just going to steal the name for these guys because they're like space villains and I don't think that's what's happening there like much more Supernatural base things and I don't think that's what we're getting. But so there it's interesting because so many people have been talking about hydro-man when they show this in Brazil. There's no Hydro man's in the movie It's we're getting hydro-man. And we even we talked about the show because while we had Rose reports on it and then you see the earth-based guy who knows that Sandman like are they doing Sandman and hydro-man and Mysterio? It's like it's a lot of villains. Yeah, but it's so Tom Holland referred to them as the Elementals. I think none of them are there. So what are they are all Illusions because now we can go to Mysterio popping up bam fing in a cloud of smoke like some next-level Universal Studios actors, which is basically what we're getting. What do you think? So like let's just take a look at Jake Gyllenhaal here before we get into like my all my theories. Yeah. What do you think of his look? Well, here's the thing. I'm slightly concerned. When he was cast only because I don't know I was like, okay, I guess I guess that's fine. I guess that works. I love him as an actor. I think he's super talented, but I just didn't see the two together, but just seeing him in his costume and like really bringing it and honestly hasn't even aged at all. Like he's the whole 10-year challenge. He looks exactly the same but he really brings it. He adds like a lot of what the word is. He's scary. He's scary, but it's all in his Sighs and he doesn't have to Siri thought I was talking to her. Yeah. He just he's just is and I think it looks really cool. I also like that when we first see him it's nothing super crazy and then the next shot that we get of him. He's in the Fishbowl head and I'm like good. So we're getting all the things that we wanted. Well what I love here is i in it it goes to what flash was saying at the end of the trailer is it's like Iron Man and Thor combined and I think that's intentional because Mysterio is Is a stuntman like an effects guy? Like that's that's his character is that he comes from moviemaking? So he understands an audience and I think like the cape here the design of it. It does absolutely look like Mysterio's comic book like keeping the design but it also is very evocative of Thor's cape in the MCU. Yeah. So I think what we're seeing here is I am like you do there is a little bit of a chest piece in the middle of his suit the way that it's built out in the way. It's structures the Like with the ABS there is a certain amount of Iron Man in that. Yeah, and I so I think what we're getting here plus his like mysterious Rays like it sort of evokes a little bit of with it. We has triangles instead of circles, but it's very evocative of dr. Strange. Yeah, and I think what we've gotten and like these all line up with Comics to so it's not a hundred percent that but I think what we're and this is where it might Theory start to come in. I think what we're going to get from Mysterio's. Is that he has seen all of these Heroes like on TV see what they can do like, oh, so that's how they do that. And he wants to be a hero. Yes. He wants to like and that's why we see him saving the dates fighting this Elemental monster. So he creates a scenario in which he can save the day by creating these Elementals and then uses his effects and like and all that to mimic what he He sees what people believe is a hero, which is the Cape of Thor the metal of Iron Man and these like powers of doctor strange and he creates his own hero moments until Spider-Man comes in and it's going to ruin it all screw it up. And then of course he becomes that's how we turn him into a villain. Yeah, but so that's what I mean when I say I feel like the movies like there because that seems know if you don't know who Mysterio is yeah. Who's Other guy fighting to save the day. Yeah, but for congress Mancino Mysterio, I feel like I know what the storyline is going to be but that being said that storyline sounds awesome. It does well and it kind of reminds me of The Incredibles first one syndrome. So I feel like you know, he wanted he wants to be part of this whole like superhero world that he's just trying to mimic them but I think his concept of good. It's cute. Yeah. Well, it's a He's doing it but for selfish reasons, which totally makes sense for him. Yeah, I'm curious you guys in the chat. What do you think? Do you think that there is more to this story than what I'm describing or do you think like, I hope that I could and I'm wrong and there's more to it. But like you think that that that they've shown their hand or do you think that that's more or less what we're going to get? Yeah. See, I know a lot of people are also concerned about the whole fish bowl and him being an apostle. We the whole time but we've seen him with it. And without it. I think they're going to have a nice balance of the two. Yeah, I think he's gonna treat it like sort of like an Iron Man. It's we're going to see sort of like Iron Man where Iron Man in the comics has the helmet of most of the time but in the movies, it's down most of the time one for effects budget reasons and two because it's much more fun. It's nicer on screen to see a person talking and I think so. I think we're going to see a much more with his head exposed then with the fish. Bowl even though in the comics it feel like he's like always in the fish bowl. Yeah, but it looks good. He looks good. Like this looks great. I'm glad they gave a nod to the comics by having him in a fishbowl. Oh, you got it, you know even in the trailer though, you can't do Mysterio without the Fishbowl. Yeah. I am not concerned that they've given away too much. I'm not I trust them and yeah, I mean homecoming dead. Too much in the trailer, but I think I think there are some twists that we don't know about and if it happens to be exactly how you described it then it'll be a surprise because if we're not expecting it to be exactly like Sony. Let me write Spider-Man 3 put it out there. It's gonna happen. What what what home thing could be in three. I like somebody posted. I don't know who this one. So, I'm sorry. I can't attribute it. But Spider-Man home for the holidays Christmas movie. I would like Guys make it happen vote below. And if you like that idea, make sure to give this video a thumbs up. I see Michael be thinks Marvel's tricking eyes. I hope so. Yeah, don't trust. I trust Marvel. I don't trust Sony. I trust I think we find was there any other parts that you or chat, if you if you have others to any other parts of the trailer that really stood out to you. Well first, you know our says I think there's more to the story. Mr. Using Illusions is way too obvious. I wouldn't be surprised if there's another big bad. I've been soda says I like the Peter and MJ stuff talk about that. So I mean we get we got a little bit of that I think just to see them. Exploring, that would be cute. I mean it's adorable in the trailer. We got a little peek of that. I don't know Peter Parker and Mary Jane Watson. I don't think there's a lot there. I don't know what they're going to be together. So no there that their their banter is adorable. Yeah. Yeah. I think that they're playing really well with trailer. I know this is a departure from the from the Mary-Jane from the MTA that people are used to and people have been resistant to that. It's different but But what like her knowing or her being younger? Oh, sorry, nevermind. Nevermind. Just the way I got confused with Aunt May. Sorry. I think I was reading something in the channels like Aunt May but yes, just like her character is different like Beyond any of the Beyond physical stuff. Like I don't care about that in the slightest. She behaves differently than the Mary Jane that we know from the comics or the Kirsten Dunst adaptation, which the Kirsten Dunst is much more in line with the MC1 so like I get that it's different than the one that you grew up with that you're used to but this is fresh. This is new. I'm like, I'm excited to see how their Dynamic plays out see a lot of people in the chat are saying that that's not MJ. But that's her name is Michelle. So what does that mean? I don't care and I mean that in a sense that like it doesn't bother me. It's MJ of this universe. They're not going to like have this LJ. They're not going to have a Michelle J. And then we're going to meet Mary Jane later. Hmm. We will if you haven't seen spider-verse go see spider-verse know that there are different versions of the Spider-Man story and everyone is unique. Can everyone is great and in this universe MJ is named Michelle instead of Mary. Well in speaking doesn't matter. Well spider-verse. I think that you know, the way that homecoming ended we saw that Aunt May was you know, she found out that Peter is Spider-Man. So I really like that now we're getting that just like we did in spider-verse and I'm curious to see how that's gonna you know, really unfold and then just seeing happy and And Aunt May together, do you okay so I got so I got my ship and train do it. Do you do you ship it to you ship Aunt May and happy Hogan. Yeah. Why do you say it like that? I just like saying it's when I say sentences like that. I'm just like Man comic books are such a big thing that I said that's out loud to people. Yeah, and I just think statements like that that make me giggle Yeah, do you ship it to you ship them? Yeah, I ship it really really hard. I think that was a cute way to start off the trailer and I'm curious because if Peters gonna be in Europe and that gives em a and happy maybe some time alone. Oh Peter song comfortable with it because it's basically like his Uncle. Yeah and his aunt it's weird. It's like it's like it's like of your uncle Started dating your mom but they weren't related. It's like a because he thinks it's because Tony is like a father figure. Yeah happy is like is Tony's like good friend now, they're like, it's a very it's a I get why it would be a weird dynamic for Peter to have to navigate. Yeah, but people are saying in the chat. Happy May happy man. He met. Yeah, but they look like its name. Let's make it happen. Hashtag. Happy May done. I do I do like I'd like Both of these characters. Both of these characters are cute there. Is it this Dynamic makes sense? Oh man, if happy home comes Parker stepdad, ah crap, I'd be so into that when I'm curious to see exactly where we're going to see that relationship because they're getting like all flirty and the trailer but how far you know has this been how long has this been happening at? What stage? How much do we see? How far does it go? I would bet the right man for me. We can't it'll be towards the end of the movie Peter comes back from Venice. All these crazy Adventures. He's just like he comes he's like falls down on his bed falls asleep gets up in the morning and then Happy's out there in a robe making pancakes and it's just like hey sport what we cut out of the movie on that or it's a truer words a post-credits sequence where we see happy in a robe in Peter and Aunt May's apartment. That's what I'm banking on. Yeah, I'm curious to see how much we're gonna see. I think it'll be a little bit will be this little thread that like we sort of pick up and at the beginning and then we don't see the progression of it. But we see the result Now give me progression. Come on. Yeah, and he wants that Aunt May rom-com movie I do when I say that out loud. I want that. Give me that the right at someone right it okay. Let's make it happen and then send it to us and we'll have it. Hmm. Yeah, I want to see it. Yeah. All right. This is a lot of fun. I can talk about Spider-Man all episode but there is other news to talk about so did the chat of any other last thoughts on the trailer? Not necessarily just talking about shipping. Yeah, I thank you. I love I love talking about shipping. It's almost like I do it every week chipping pot on Twitter ships in the night. Anyway gotta plug. Let's move on to our next. Next topic Captain Marvel got some new posters which the inner set the internet Ablaze and let's look through them. Like the first set is like that's cool. These are good posters. That's cool just like that. I was like so look at it put up so many great Captain Marvel posters that like seeing Carol on one looking great as like old news to me because Carol looks great and she looks great in all the posters. They put out for her Monica rambeau, or that's not Monica rambeau. That's her mom. I believe uh-huh. But either way you got a rainbow and you got Jude Law probably playing Marvel. We still don't know for sure. I'm still that I still think he's Marvel. You don't get Jude Law for a movie. I think he's playing Marvel and this is my theory. I think he's playing Marvel, but also he's playing a crazy who has who is undercover as Marvel. It's Maria Maria Rambo. Yeah, yeah, her mom not now Monica, but Maria I was right. I just couldn't remember her mom's name and then we get some more posters. We've got Gemma Chan is Minerva Cree names are so fun and stupid Min Min - irva. I'm gonna be like a - me that would be like, that would be another your name, okay. Yes, it would be like Zach - re like for Zachary. Zachary would be my crappy. I'm cool. We should we should change our handles our Twitter handles to create a names of God. That might be fun. Anyway, then we've got the oh we got Ben mendelsohn. Oh, yeah Talos who is like, he's Ben mendelsohn. Playing villainous Kree are not kree-skrull. Yeah. Did I say career scroll about Marvel? Either way men see this girl Ben. Mendelsohn is a scroll. Hmm. That's in that Benning right in the middle. Oh, yeah. I just got excited because I'm like this is that guy that like the Ben mendelsohn is a great villainous actor. He's always a dick but these next set this last set it's where all the fun is here. Here so we got young Nick Fury. That's that's great. But we got and we got Agent Coulson with some hair always love seeing see I'm a boy Coulson and then the internet is so excited about this Goose poster. This needs to be my freaking wallpaper and everything. I think you probably bought these posters. Yeah, but yeah Goose the cat or The alien, you know, can we just take a moment and really give a shout out to cats making away in the cinema and in you know Sabrina so Netflix world as well, you know, we got Salem and I won't be satisfied until Salem talks and then get snarky. That's my Salem versions of Sabrina's hashtag not myself. I'm kidding. But yeah Goose looks what a stunner Goose looks great. I just it's so so funny that because these a lot of moisture all these character posters, but I couldn't but was the last time you saw just like a house cat. I don't character poster. I should actually make one of my cat. A lot of people were said I saw some people like requesting like morville. Can you make like an app where we can put our cats in to do we make it happen? Like let's do it. But yeah, so just a cup just a couple months, but until we get to finally see that movie. Yeah and the less than two months less than two months. Yeah, and then Have freaking and game late April. So we've got March April and then July. Yeah Spider-Man. It's a good year, but then but then we don't have anything until who knows. Well, they've booked dates Marvel has like dates that they're like, we're doing a movie here and I don't but I think that's it for 2019. That's sad, but you will get more in 2012. I'm sorry Amy. I'm sorry. You're only getting three movie. I got five whatever. We stand there with them then in July. Why you'll get Agents of Shield back and then probably at the end of the year where we'll be getting and we'll get into some stuff on this more but you'll be getting low-key. Okay? Yeah. Yeah, and so that you got plenty to look forward to and we might have even more crazy stuff down the road for those mystery movies including possibly Young Avengers. Oh, yeah, which I think I went out of order on my I see here versus I'm sorry. The there is a Young Avengers movie rumored to be in development behind the scenes at Marvel and this has to be it didn't so the even the rumors is just a script that Marvel has ordered to be written which they do all the time. So like so if you've seen this rumor probably somebody Marvel's like maybe we do a Young Avengers in like eight years. So they what they would do is they would bring in writers sometimes unknowns or people that they just want to try out and they're right A Young Avengers movie like hear your stipulations write this movie and let's see what it looks like and then they can look at the script be like, this is great. We should make this or they look at this creamy. Like this isn't really something that we need to invest more time more time development in so like shelve it and move on but that would could because Marvel has the money to do this. They can just pump out these ideas see if Work on paper and then spend the money to actually do art bring in casting and like all the stuff so the rumored lineup and this is from we got this covered. Is that the source they were a source for another crazy rumor this week that like seemed unlikely, but we're gonna talk about anyway. Yeah, the rumored lineup is Hawkeye Kate Bishop. Keep Bishop Hawkeye. Hulk growling iron lad who Iron lad is a young version of Kang the Conqueror OK Hans implications if they bring him in Patriot Wiccan stature stature is Cassie Lang who when she she starts to be able to use she starts to use Pym particles and growing all the stuff and vision. like Paul Bettany Vision in some form So there's a lot to unpack right there. There's so much information. So tape Bishop Hawkeye. So because there's the there was casting for endgame. Who was the young woman that got cast in endgame get hoop what her name is unknown role, but the rumor the to rumors were Cassie Lang and Kate Bishop. Okay, or the main rumor was cat was it was a slightly older casting Lang? Yeah. I looked at her and thought that's not yet. That's not canceling. That's Kate Bishop. Oh Katherine like my yes. Yeah. I looked at when she when she was cast. My initial thought was Kate Bishop. Yes. I didn't think I think I think I don't think that adds up for what for what Scott's story is to bring to a job Cassie that way as much as like getting stature and doing like superhero Cassie would be fun. Yeah because you could really go into that. Yeah. I don't buy that. What I do by is Kate Bishop coming in. in and being introduced in endgame to set up a Hawkeye movie or Disney plus Series where we get this we get the mentor we get like Hawkeye loses an eye or goes completely blind and starts training Kate Bishop all about it blind Hawkeye running around training Kate Bishop like That's Dojo. I want to see that and they will talk about that in a minute. Yeah, but what do you so Amy, what do you do with all of that information information that I just dropped on everybody? Yeah. What are do you do are you excited about this? Do you think it has any possibility of hitting the screens anytime within the next decade? Yes, and yes. Yes. I'm excited. Yes, I do think it. Yeah, it can be in the Waist and the cinemas were the kind of Rangers. I feel like we need. I feel like there's another Avengers movie before this ever happens. Yes. Well, I feel like it have to pass the torch a little bit because we're all used to you know cap Iron Man. We got Spider-Man like kind of recently if you think about it. So we would need to kind of transition that a little bit easier and not a surly say bye or pass the torch but just kind of be like, hey, look we're going to tag team with them a little bit. Yeah. To me this screams of to me that like I either like the thing that I would jump on is the fact that they put iron lad in there this young Kang the Conqueror character and I I've heard there's been rumors about a Kang but Kang being a villain in Marvel for a while now maybe less. So now that you've got The fox rights all back. So you've like Galactus is now back on the table and like all and like super skrulls are back on the table. Now that you can do not just Scrolls though and like in Captain Marvel, you can do super Scrolls and secret Invasion and all of that stuff is on is possible super skrulls for anybody who is like what are you talking about? There's certain Scrolls and the super scroll is one particular one who cannot just mimic not just look like you but also mimic powers. So take power set. So and like multiple ones at one time. So it was a fantastic for villain who could like take on all their abilities at once that kind of reminds me of iZombie. But yes, but I think but Kang the Conqueror is a strong villain in a great Avengers villain who like because they didn't have all these bigger name ones that Galactus Kang was always like just great. Oh we could go to Kang after infinity warm after. You deal with that. I was like then a time-traveling villain who's coming like fix his timeline by screwing off hours and hurting our feelings to Our Heroes to save hit to save his future and like so if that's part of this and we jump this movie like into like 200 years in the future, that could be really cool. Yeah, but I don't think but like I don't know how you do this like in in our timeline and jumping in the future. So messy, well it especially when you like everyone already just you know, I'll attach to these characters. So if you jump into the future than what does that mean coming back after that? Like do you want to just stay in the future? What about like, do you want to just jump around then bring them and does it lower threat in the modern timeline is the big thing for me because if we know that these characters is just 200 years in the future. Then we know that a secret Invasion story is not going to end in the world being taken over by Scrolls. Although it could because if it's a different timeline, yeah and like there actually were some sealed. Some theories this hope that's like oh what if what if the snap just created an alternate universe and now there's two timelines and then like Spider-Man's it is own timeline. It's like the they will never do that with the MCU because that's some comic book it confusing nonsense and you need the the general movement going public who have already been good enough to grasp that. This is all in the same universe. And now it's Spider-Man you got Venom over here. It's just like keep it as simple as possible one Universe. Let's get back to one. See you. But okay, let's keep going through this stuff. Yeah, Black Widow rumors from Charles Murphy at the hashtag. Show is the one who's breaking this that black widow might be rated all my might be rated R. The first Marvel properties over Marvel Cinematic Universe movie to go for an R rating. What do you think that makes me really freaking excited? I think I know that there's a lot of concerns with a lot of People when there's a PG-13 rating to something that you feel like should be kind of violent, you know, and it's like oh boom We're not gonna get it as violent as we want it, but I think the Marvel Cinematic Universe has proven that they can make really amazing things really dark things to with a PG-13 rating. But with that being said Black Widow is already extremely like violent like the stuff that she has to do sometimes is pretty intense. Yeah. So for them to be like, you know, we may go into the R rating then, you know, it's going to be Like whoa, I'm not excited. Yeah, I mean it's a black widow has the possibility to be in that like that Max storyline kind of thing like to go into those those more dark comments this like it does line up with like stuff like Bob eyes your has talked about that like they are they they don't they're not opposed to doing R-rated movies in the in the Marvel Cinematic Universe because they believe they can communicate that effectively to Their audience. I don't my instinct my business instinct tells me that black widow will not be the first R-rated Disney Marvel movie because this character has been so established in P the PG-13 world and because there are unfortunately not that many female heroes in the Marvel Universe like guess we got Captain Marvel coming and that's wonderful, but I but to take black widow is is now a character who is like There are so many toys. You can meet black widow at Disneyland like and I don't know and the read the only reasons to make black widow rated R is you don't need to go gory with her know that there's plenty of violence in PG-13 world. You don't need blood which is the only reason it would the violence would push into our you don't need swearing you can work around that. So the only real reason that I could see ya the only reason I could see black widow really pushing that our rating would be because sexpionage stuff. Oh well, which is in line with that character. Like this is a character who were who's been trained by terrible people and abused and maybe it's that Maybe it's the abuse that they're trying to keep that pushes that already as I said as I say, is that something about this as I talk? So maybe it's that maybe it's that like seeing what they do to children is what keeps it R rating because she was terribly abused. That's that's black widow storyline. She did terrible things but like I could also see it where it's like leaning into that what she has to use like hate. It sounds so messed up what to say to you but like sex is a weapon which like that. I don't mean that in the shitty way, but in the way love like she's a spy the same way that James Bond uses sex as a weapon Black Widow would and how much of that do you show what lines do you let the character cross and that's that's where I could see it like pushing into more into the our area. But again, this is a character. That's a Disneyland. Yeah, so I think that I would so while this is a great property to do as our I don't think Disney would do it. Let us know what you think. I know some people were like no don't make it an are some people would say. Well, yeah, I mean you can and then it would they think it would be because of the violence. So yeah, I mean it would be interesting to see me we've seen her we've seen people get beat up so badly in PG-13 movies like do you need the blood to really sell that not really and that's that's what the difference between R and PG-13 the see I wonder if there are people out there that may If they saw that black widow was rated R. They'd be like, oh wow, like this is this is going to get really dark and maybe they not that they seek that that they would they would think of in a different way because you know, there's probably people out there crazy thought but don't like comic book movies. So if people don't exist, yeah, the limit does not exist. Yeah. I feel like maybe those people would be like, well, I don't know maybe they're doing you know darker tone with this and maybe they would like that. Yeah. Who knows? Yeah, let us know what you think if you know if it is going to be rated R. Would you watch it because that's another thing some people don't like watching Rated R films. Yeah, let us know what you think. Let's hit that TV time button. It's TV time. I'm removing a Marvel movie news. We're talking TV today. I always pretend to have a fake microphone. That's right here. There's a real one. Okay, Tom real quick. Tom Hiddleston had said some stuff about Loki what he said was I think I posted something about this. It's very exciting. I cannot say much about it. I'm afraid time will tell wow so much that he reveals. I can't even take it. Let's dissect every little thing. I just know people are talking about So I wanted to like be like yeah, Tom Hiddleston acknowledge that he's in this movie or in this series still don't know if it'll be mainly him if we're getting young Loki forgetting past low-key like young as in reincarnated Loki. That's the one I want to see I want to see young reincarnated. I just want to see Tom Hiddleston. So I'm going to be happy there away. Well, that would mean that you wouldn't see Tom Hiddleston as much you'd see him in like prolog stuff and like some other things. Maybe flashbacks. I don't know. I I was watching a little part of well, actually no. Well. I was no saint in the background and and game Infinity war was on in the background and I have to look away every single time. Look he dies. It hurts my soul. So if we get any more low-key stories, even you know, if we're going back in time anything anymore Loki I'm here for it. And I know I know there's plenty of people that are ya who knows? Alright more Disney plus rumor. So many rumors about shows that are on the table and like because the internet you can't keep track of what's real. And what's not the internet's full of rumors, but the current rumors that we're seeing this week and there's some big ones. So what okay, let's start with what we know. We know we're getting Vision in the Scarlet Witch. We're getting we are we're getting lucky. We are more than likely getting Falcon in the Winter Soldier. Although that one has not been officially confirmed. Damned, like the I don't know that they've officially announced a writer they at the technically haven't said vision of the Scarlet Witch is happening in like a press release but they've hired writers and showrunners and stuff for the two official in our minds. Yeah. It's just like it's that key difference between like we're developing this we're working on it versus like Hey general audience we're doing this Loki is like General audience. Like everyone want everyone to know when you subscribe to Disney plus you're getting lucky Scarlett vision of Scarlet Witch is people who are paying attention know that Working on this, but we'll let you know when you can expect it or if it's really going to happen. There are rumors of a Hawkeye series which we were talking about earlier with the theory is that it would be with Kate Bishop. It would be a mentor pass the torch role based on Ronan and all the stuff and that's that's great. I would love to see a Hawkeye and Kate Bishop Hawkeye series, but the deeper rumors our that we could get this is where it starts to get crazy and you're like, all right. We're pushing some boundaries here. So I've seen rumors this week for Moon night. Which I love Moon Knight wants the moon night. Listen that going to be a film there were rumors of it as a Netflix series on Netflix series as like because Moon night was The Logical mu not always seemed a logical next character to hit the Netflix series because he's a street-level hero who's very violent and like dirty and you could do a lot of things with that darker world. Robin I don't know about a moon night Disney plus series that feels to clean based on like what we know about what Disney place is going to look like, but the this list that I'm looking at right now has Rocket and Groot as a potential series which sounds expensive as hell but definitely a great way to get people to subscribe and adults alike agent 13 is listed. You're just trying to make me squirm with this one. Somebody said equal Hank Pym story You're trying to break me at this point. I okay. I think my only concern with all this is there's so many rumors, right obviously, like what was that the rest of the list or is there more than one giant one? And this one is was separate as its own like rumor which again was from we got this covered that supposedly Marvel is developing a TV series of X-Men for Disney Plus. Which is interesting now technically. Fox has not the fox Disney deal is not done done. It's proved by certain things. But like it's still like in process Disney does not own box right now. They will very very soon. So there's some antitrust apparently some antitrust questions. However, this is a TV series which Disney still has the rights TV series as far as I understand regardless of the fox deal. They always did that's why they had to give approval for Fox to do Legion and the gifted yeah. So they could be developing this in the background. So do you think original lineup of X-Men we get the classic we get Professor Xavier Cyclops Beast Iceman Angel, Jean Grey, whatever that version looks like to you. Like we just get those guys as a TV series, you know. No, I think we all have a very interesting relationship with with the X-Men at this point, whether you've read the comic seeing the shit like everything and I'm just curious I think some of us have been burned and some of us are just like whoa. Yes more X-Men. So I'm just curious and there are so many rumors. So now I'm like there's some people that are like what Rocket and Groot or you know, a Hank Pym story like there's so many things that I know a lot of people would latch onto Is like how many of those would actually happen? How good would they be how many you know episodes would we see ya? It's certainly interesting. But do let us know in the comments below out of all of those rumored. Thanks, which ones you know excites you the most yeah, or which ones do you want there to be? Yeah. Yeah. Could there be all right last story of the day? Yeah. Give me more Hallmark more Mark Ruffalo Hulk. Oh my God Hank Pym prequel series So I only don't want them to do it because I want to do it like that's my dream to make write it and then be like hey, so I heard I want to make this a comedy series. That's a romantic story of the early days of Hank and Janet. That's my dream project last story of the day Don't You Forget About Me. Well played well played Anthony, Michael Hall. Is coming to Agents of Shield? I am so excited. No word on who he could possibly be playing Theory. I think it's support the this is supposed to be this season. So he's already shot out what his story is if I've if all the rumors that I've read are correct or all the stuff that so you don't have any ideas who we could be playing I have zero idea. Well first we have to figure out is he a good guy or a bad guy? I mean you I've no idea like you have to pick now. He have to stick to that. Well, he's a scroll no. No, you have to pick good guy Rebecca. I know I literally that literally is my prediction both the he's playing two characters. He's playing a good guy. Who is then impersonated by a scroll that's not but I don't know who I don't know who I mean, he could be he could be playing a the president because we've they must have been an election by now or the president got like got snapped. I think he's a bad guy. No matter what. I think he's a bad guy and I I don't know what he's doing though. I really have no idea and like do we really know what's going to happen with Coulson though? We don't we so the idea that the so spoilers for last season of Agents of Shield at the end of last season Coulson was like walking off literally into the sunset of Tahiti to die with because with a mate know it just agent me. Yeah a teammate wasn't that but Polson was going to die. Yeah, that was where there's just His character was deteriorating because of all the the Kree DNA and stuff like that. He was gonna die with the soup of the show getting an unexpected renewal. Who knows there's like literally no one knows Clark Gregg has been on set but he's directing episodes. So you can't claim the him being on set is because he's working there. Like he's he was directing episodes before while he was still on the show. And now he's there as a director regardless of whether he's on the cast or not who knows it so Anthony Michael Hall could be a new Shield liaison for the government again, like because we've lost all of our Liaisons before we keep killing them off, you know. One events job. One of them was a superhero who then died because of a alternate reality Jason whare one of them turned into graviton, which was yes, but so I don't know who have any Michael Hall could be I assume it's a short stint because usually these cat these kind of casting rumors are I don't know you can be he's such a flexible actor and such a good actor like he could literally be doing Anything? Yeah, there's no he doesn't fit a type that I would necessarily say agent of shield is definitely doing but because I assume you're going to be cleaning up pieces from both Captain Marvel and and game my instinct tells me scroll. Hmm. A lot of people in the chat. I thinking that he'll be the big bad of season six could be cool. So we'll see. I don't know again Scrolls, I think with Captain Marvel and there I think it's good. Although we have already sort of done that like Are you really who you are? What the framework? Yeah on Shield. So I don't know if we want to go back into that fits. Oh my gosh. Yeah, so maybe not maybe not. I probably have more theories if I knew it was going to happen in endgame. All right, we have run out of time guys here on Marvel movie news and I want to make sure I give Amy a couple minutes. Yes, Amy. Yes. Tell them. Yeah break our hearts, but I will try not to break your It's guys, but don't worry. We still got some some time together. I do want to say that my last show will be next week next Thursday. Yes, so I have an amazing opportunity and you job just came my way. So I will be unable to be here after next week. But guys, it's been a blast. It's been so cool. You know, it's it's been amazing to be able to, you know, let my freak flag fly and to Ali get to nerd out with you guys you guys have been so sweet and again, I will be here next week. Just wanted to give you guys a heads up. It's really been an honor to be here and to go from you know here and the couch and everywhere and just to talk with all of you guys. You really just been so so kind so I will see you next week for my final show here on Wednesday. We will never see him again. Just yeah, not regularly not regularly and I will try to pop in, you know, and we're working on who will be replacing Amy not replacing. Just taking her literally just sitting in her seat right here. And but that'll I'll be here with you guys for the foreseeable future and will let you know. I think hopefully we should have stuff more in locked down by next week, but I did but wait it's too early to say anything for certain. Yeah, you guys will just have to watch. 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