Fellow fiends, welcome to another terrifying and delectable episode of nightmare on film Street the horror podcast with zero credibility, but all of the blood ghouls. And Gore your puny heart can handle let's give a grave Welcome to our hosts John and Kim. Hello again fiends and welcome to nightmare on film street. I'm Kim John this week. We are talking ah real big monsters. It was a title that we should not have made and we stuck with it. Yeah. I mean, oh I'm really proud of it. I really like it this week. We are taking a break from Stephen King month as this is a triple episode month. So we slid in the middle there a little bit of some Creature Feature action. We are Celebrating the release of 47 meters down on caged by watching a couple creature features. That's right. You got a shark movie hitting the theaters this weekend at home right now. You can revisit at least I hope for the last week. I hope you Revisited anaconda snake movie and the snake if you didn't know if the title it's a it's a snake and also another snake named Jon Voight and Ricky Ottoman and Lake Placid some crocodiles alligators. They Crocs right Crocs. Oh, we'll get into it. Are you excited? What's keeping you creepy this week him. Obviously, it's 47 meters down. Are you excited? I'm pumped last time we saw it was at the drive-in as we do and I remember it was pouring rain, which was a cool effect for a shark movie. Yeah, but also you can't have your car on because so we have this really cheap little hatchback where you can't turn. Off the running lights if you have the car for ya. So you figure that. Yeah, you cannot run the wiper blades without having the running lights on so we're basically just fucked if the weather's bad and we're at the drive-in it's also because we got the most standard package pause there we want no add-ons, except we want to be able to plug our phone in and our radio doesn't work. It hasn't worked for three years. So we don't tell him I'm telling them because it builds into the store, but you can't afford a radio, but you bought an RV we made smart. Business decisions. Yeah, we haven't had a radio in the car for three years. So we bring a portable little radio with us so that we can still have the full Driving Experience. Yep, and I remember it was pouring so bad that the three of us you mean the dog went for a walk suspects that the driver went for a walk around the drive-in in the pouring rain with our tiny little radio with us to try to capture some of the film so we can at least see some of it and we were soaking wet and that's what I remember. Had a fun time it was great. I think the CGI was okay, but who knows? Yeah, I think that is the perfect filter to watch a movie that maybe had a really low budget. It's just like through several layers of glass and Rain. Yeah. It's like, I don't know if you guys had this where you're listening but there was an ad when we were growing up. I think they still run it where they're trying to demonstrate. Oh that Energizer Bunny Christmas add your time. Nope talking about that talking about that drinking and driving ad where there's like. Hey, oh, this is Yeah, this is what the road looks like just on a regular night. And here's what it looks like after one big and then after two beers and they just put empty cups in front of each other. So until it's this is more and more fuzzy and then you crash and die and kill your family everybody screaming in the back Wyatt. Yeah, that's what we grew up on and that's kind of what the drive-in looks like it really it really fuzzed out all them edges, but I'm very excited. I cannot wait. I like a good shark movie specially in the summer. I'm trying to get John to hold out to see it at the driving this weekend, but I had to wait so long to see crawl. Yes so long does it was worth it though. It was so I think we shouldn't risk. I think we should I think we should see it twice what's wrong with going to see a shark movie at the movie theater with the recliners that's fine. And then later on, you know in case it rains and you would just want to know what it looks like whatever Jones seeing it at the drive-in on a double bill. With another movie you probably already seen whatever if you could double Bill 47 meters down right now with another movie that's currently in the theater crawl and crawl is not an option because it's probably the Lion King. Okay. What if For What If instead we watch 47 meters down on caged and then I just put on like a childish Gambino album with front on the drive home. What dog lovers in it. Is he in 47 meters down? No, I think he's Simba. Oh Ian King. I'm so I'm very very out of touch with Disney World so I can't be so wrong if it's not a horror movie. I don't know what's in this. Yeah. Somebody recently asked me like what non horror movie we're looking forward to and it's I don't know what They're Zombieland isn't really a holder it is though, I guess and also not looking forward to it. I don't want to talk about it. What else is keeping you creepy this week Kim. Um, it's been kind of a quiet Newsweek. So I'm just going to talk about some anniversaries that I made post for the okay. Yeah. I'm pretty proud of ya Alfred Hitchcock had his 120 birthday anniversary. So elated happy belated to the late Alfred Hitchcock. What's your favorite Alfred Hitchcock movie? I actually put a post on Twitter to rank your top three. Okay, we're sure rear window. Of course then psycho. Yeah, then if I had to guess yep, did you put vertigo? No, okay. Alright. So say your list set. Yeah, it's vertigo rear window vertigo. Okay, so you got vertigo psycho. It's not the birds. No be the birds. No, it's not rope not vertigo know there's a very obvious one. Really missing it's at South by Southwest. What North and Northwest dial M for Murder. Fuck. Damn. That's a good. Oh shit guys, if you like. Hey, I will say this if you like Creep Show You should watch dial M for Murder first off like most Creepshow stuff. It's about getting away with murder trying to get away with murder. And if you love all those moments where people look shocked and then there's like a bunch of red and blue behind them. There is a great moment with grayscale. Ali where we sort of like Montage through an entire trial and a sentencing and you don't see any of it, but it's just her staring into the camera reacting to stuff around her gorgeous. It's a wonderful movie. Yeah. Okay. So what's your top the my top fuck I was vamping. I was hoping you'd forget to look at my tongue about great dial M for Murder is Shields clearly glance over me. It's very tough. I have not seen every Alfred Hitchcock movie obviously and top three I can only pick three mmm. Don't you just feel like a basic bitch though. And you're just like rear window psycho and vertigo know so, you know, a lot of people didn't have psycho on it. I was like, that's cause you say that but I was less than you don't mean it psychos incredible. It's not even one of those movies that's its present those overrated or underrated movies. Yeah, the movies that have become overrated. So now they're underrated because people don't appreciate them as much as because everybody else does like oh everybody looks psycho and that's because it's good. It's because it's amazing. It's incredible. Yep every single time I watch Find something new. Yeah, it's insane. I would also say if this is the one opportunity we have check out shadow of a doubt great movie one of his earlier films black and white pretend it's a vampire movie and I'm serious. It's my tip the bad guy never shows up during the day. He sucks. People dry. Like he's just like a he's a creep and yeah just like lives in darkness consider that Universal Monsters movie also some anniversaries this week Dead Alive brain-dead had anniversary came. I'm out August 13th 1992 in New Zealand for everyone forever. Yep. A bunch of friends 13th movies came out on the 13th of August. Surprise fried 13th Part 3 Jason Goes to Hell. Hmm. Somebody was saying Freddy vs. Jason, but that's a 15th. So we're we're gonna Also on top of that, I mean small big news big news. I heard big small big news. We got Edge Justin Benson are in Moorhead their new film synchronic is having its World premiere at if they just released their first image via Entertainment Weekly with Anthony Mackie it standing in front of like a dilapidated. He's got a gun but only in a cop position. He's a paramedic. It's probably a syringe. It's an EpiPen that he's got a gun holster. It just looks like two cops and we were like shooting from below and they're like, yo, I don't know if we can deal with this case. He's grotesque body just like movie mutilated from this weird designer drug. I don't know but said New Orleans, it's gonna be great. Yay guns akimbo to was also announced for the Tif premieres this week Daniel Radcliffe movie where he's like, you know a video game or a real-life game actually know nothing about he's it's what was that game that came out of that game that movie that came out where it was like one big internet game where it was like Truth or Dare. Oh shit. Emma Roberts was in it was really good with the alleged viral, right and it was like increasingly more risky dares. I think it's similar in the in the sense that it's the whole world is playing this game with Daniel Radcliffe and he's got a not die. I'm excited. I assume that makes good choices. He's in some of the weirdo Radcliffe has made the best decisions. Yeah, since he stopped being Harry Potter. I mean, he's always going to be Harry Potter for good on him for remaining in that balance of doing like Blockbuster films and Read of stuff and interesting roles, like he played a fart corpse and like his career you so doing great came out like the same or like the year after Swiss army, man. Damn. If we are at it honestly, very strange very weird silly movie also very touching if we are like the thousands people to tell you to watch was army, man, please let us also be the last go see that movie but do it on like a date night those. Oh, yeah, they always about love that movie is generally about love, but it has a lot of farting Corpses. Very good movie also James Wan. I'm sure you've heard Atomic monster his production company will be producing email cats new film. It's called the troops based. It's an adaptation of Nick Cutters novels about a bunch of Boy Scouts to go into the woods and then like, oh some weird guys in our group now and then like wow whore, you know that that that sub-genre. I love the black horror genre. It's where I found most of my favorite, you know dead. Life was there the are real monsters episode is in the black whore. That's right. Yeah, you'll catch though real quick. If you don't recognize the name was the director behind all the episodes four channels hero dreamed or as well as cheap thrills got bugs in it. Yeah, it's got plugs in and or lots of bugs and their sweaters just a little FYI important to know and she throws of course as Pat Healy. No plugs no plugs from what I remember. Yeah, we should have a pug segment. Is this past the Pug Dale test? Like, you know, I'm sure there's a bunch of podcast doing bechdel test. But are there is there a podcast doing of pug test? There are two things I want to know about in a new movie that I have not seen one. How many pugs and how many pumps how many do I maybe the record number of oh, you're right. You think they're you think they're all different bugs or they better be or it's just one pug that they let loose with several different sweater letters though. And also, let's say it CLK It's pug but you see in the movie. So that directors got taste in pugs. Yeah, looking forward to it now. Okay, fine. This has been pug watch them real quick before we get into our blood horror episode that work like yeah that we're calling a real big monsters. This is become a very strange episode love it. I just want to give a big shout-out to some little baby crocodiles would have a feeding by the pond Tyler. A Kyle's Scott. I think Ray sense. Really Marchi Angela. Of course, you are all my babies and I've been feeding you bits of bread. I don't understand how you grew to be thousands of feet. I guess. 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You can get this month bonus episode the scary stories to tell in the dark drive home from the drive-in will also be doing it chapter 2 next month. Oh, yeah, but you can head over check it out. Take a look and see if you want to support us. Let's get into a Kim Let's talk about some real big monsters and let's start with Lake Placid. It has existed since prehistoric. Rick times it was worshipped by primitive culture. It can kill a man with one crushing bite. We heard a man Was Bitten half any recent bear attacks. There's only pack people underwater probably a fever then whatever's out there who shot the piss he's dead. Help you find it. We can't let them kill it experienced a few pots mystery. Do you have any theories why he's here Earthly. I don't know and a few parts missing the human toe. Is this the man who was killed he seemed taller. Oh my God, so Lake Placid from 1999 directed by Steve Miner. We're going to go back to that. There is currently sitting at a five point seven out of ten on IMDb 41 percent on Rotten Tomatoes. Wow, you want to guess what the Roger Ebert's chorus 1 out of 4, it's one out of four from Ebert himself and a 2.6 out of 5 on letterboxed guys. I'm really surprised. How are you though? I liked this movie. I got I think everybody that voted that gave it a rotten. I don't know. I think I think most of the people that comprise. That 41 percent on Rotten Tomatoes also liked it and I liked this movie when it came out. I was a 10 year old but I still liked it. Sure. I still I liked it this watch I enjoyed myself. It was a fun movie. It's great fun. Yeah, but it's not like it's fun. Okay, you know what, you know, the the older I get the more the more I've realized there are only two genres of movies Jaws and The Exorcist. Yeah. Yeah exactly. This is Jaws. Yeah. No, I was gonna say fun is definitely one of them just fun and chill. Those are the those are the two genres of movies and music fun. And chill. That's yeah. Try me out. Throw a movie at me throw a band at me The Conjuring fun. Chill. What are you talking about? Jump-scare wars chill horror because it doesn't show. Okay, so that means that the conjuring During and Midsummer sure. I don't see The Conjuring as a chill movie. It's not John. What is fucking Jaws is fun. Jaws is fun backing up that argument. Okay, Lake Placid definitely fun. Super fun. Oh like it. It is firmly planted in that fun camp and an odd movie because now I'm sure we're all revisiting the movie having not seen it for several years it probably several months. Get said several everybody's watched in this year already. But what surprised me the most was just how quickly we glazed over who these characters are and why they're they're officially and there's there's very little effort in justifying why anybody is here. You know what I'm gonna stop you right there and say everybody deserves to be there and should be there except for Bridget Fonda has character. I really don't Don't think Kelly needs to be there whatsoever. And that random rich guy. No, I can I can get behind. Yeah, but it's all pretty random and the movie knows that and rather than trying to justify it to you with some big movie drama explanation. Whatever. We just have a lot of back and forth banter because everybody's rude to everybody else and it's great super rude, even though they're all there by choice technically like everybody is there by choice Nobody's reporting back to anybody really until the end of the movie. So yeah, but Hector Hector though like this crocodile and this crocodile is his Coachella like you tell him that they've erected a stage and he's coming over. He literally just shows up in his head like everybody who goes to the cello and Kelly's just like, oh, here's a really rich guy. Oh, I know I'm is really annoying and then all of a sudden he's part of the gang like they have a tent for mm. Yeah. He brought that we ought to be brought. Two tents one sleeping and mating and the other party tent he does have a party. He does have one dance move though where he's just like doing an X like over this this girl. I don't even know how to explain it but it's better than throwing dice will get that. I will agree with you though. Kelly definitely is the one person who a thousand percent doesn't need to be there. She is sent by her boss quote unquote and never reports back to him because you're right like none of these people are necessarily sentence tough. The up the chain of command and they are making some bold decisions without any supervision. Well and also, To die. There are some fatalities 0 funerals in this movie. You usually get one Kelly's a paleontologist, right? This is study of dinosaurs. Yeah, so dumb, I'm such a dumb works for museum museum in New York where dinosaurs live. So what so why why are they sending her anyway, so they find this tooth. Hey Brendan Gleeson and his one of his employees are have fish are out in a bull. What are they doing? Okay. Don't know. It's a sheriff boat. Yeah, so obviously there on official business and he is in a scuba suit, he goes down. There's like a pocket of air down there. He's trying to check out for some reason. I don't know what it is, maybe like a beaver dam and he's trying to like figure it out. It's and the share of to do that. We got a victim the beard very small town, but that he gets eaten by an alligator. It is wonderful crocodile. Fuck you. So guess Eden Park crocodile and it's wonderful. It's a super surprise. It's really fast guy gets eaten in half and then when Brendan Gleeson he - yeah. Yeah. I'm out of the water. There is only half of them there. Yeah, he doesn't realize until he pulls him into the boat that is super jarring love it and it's weird because this movie does not match the tone of some of the love that there's two main deaths in this movie. Yeah, the film does not match that tone at all. Like they they went full a hundred percent. With the alligator Chomps and kudos to them people should be giving them a point bump for just how gory they went here. Well, I think it's worth mentioning who directed this goddamn movie. Mr. Steve Miner. Mr. Friday the 13th part two and three mr. Warlock, mr. House I keep going. Oh, you want more? Mr. Halloween H2O. Oh, yeah. That's right. Yeah the best installments of all of those franchises. Sizes and also like Lassa. So the funding to hear is that from that first encounter the waters really dark it's really murky. We can't tell what it was. Yeah, but they were anything could be an alligator could be a crocodile don't know they recover a tooth from the half a corpse and then the museum gets involved the Museum from New York to identify the tooth like do they just don't animal? Yeah, there's no there's no closer Museum. Don't have a museum and Main I would think there's a museum in Maine maybe even just send it to a university. Like I'm sure there's a university in Maine are universities attached to museums. No, but universities have people with education in those people who don't know what paying paleontologists that's for damn sure. She does say though that her ex-boyfriend is her boss who sent her away because he's sleeping with her friggin cold best friend or something. Yeah, so there's some weird Dumb Love. Triangle and she gets sent off rather than just filing us lawsuit with human resources. Yeah, and she's stuck in the middle of nowhere. There's a lot of not great dialogue explaining how much of a fish out of water she is in this little pond. Ugh, it's so hamd. And so cheese balls only I would say maybe 60% if we're being generous lands with humor, but that makes a hundred percent of it funny because there's no reason for all this antagonism. They just wrote it in so a doesn't like be beat up and like CC isn't like D or a with no justification. Oh and they're just they bicker and every scene and it's so wonderful. Awful and unnecessary and excessive until they all fall in love with each other through struggle romance. Everybody falls in love with everybody everybody Brendan Gleeson falls in love with the with Hector Hector falls in love with the crocodile. He needed a four-way BFF necklace at the end. That would have been good five-way one for the crocodile. Of course to be perfectly honest. I thought the crocodiles included them for way. I don't know who I'm excluding in this but yeah, yeah because there's them. As in game or whatever he is. So you said that earlier than and what I'm trying to gather here is whether you mean that he is like a representative a representative or like the fish bass fish like that shop for like the wildlife game mister Bait and Tackle whatever fish and how what is it fish and game? I think you're right. I think it's fishing game. So that's where he works and he is also the dead from Casper let's all remember that and then there's the sheriff. There's the random rich guy and there's a paleontologist that is off the clock. Yeah for fun, even though everyone's rude to her. I love keeps falling off the boat. I love that. They're all trying to talk down to her about how much she doesn't like camping. But if you sent me on a work trip, and I had to sleep in a tent that whole time I'd be super pissed. I don't care where we are, especially with. Right next to a crocodile crocodiles are not exclusive to water may come on the land. Yeah, and maybe at night who knows it's a big-ass crocodile. Do you sleep in a tent with a big giant man-eating crocodile hanging about? Yeah. I mean the water is like I can see the water from my tent. Sure. Yes, no and moose horns pop up every once in a while. I'm sorry because he eats moose horns. And the rest of the most I do not remember. How crass Betty White was in this movie? It's wonderful. She goes people cocksuckers in this movie. She's great. And so part of her story to is is another one of my favorite things because it makes no sense. She admits when they meet her. She's the only person her and her husband that are living near this Lake. Otherwise, it's pretty pretty a bit not abandoned is pretty rural. Yeah, so they go to visit her to see if she's a seeing anything strange whatever turns out her husband is no longer alive. This is not anything on record because none of the Town officials know that this husband is dead and she followed admits that she murdered. Oh, I killed it and it was like pity murder in her first story because he was dying or whatever and he asked her and she sympathy suicided him. Nobody there's a bunch of cops in that room. Oh, yeah. Nobody writes anything like know everybody in that room is a cop. I get it that we're in a small town, but there is no police officer in the world that ignores a murder conviction. Oh, yeah, I mean the statute of limitations on that's pretty strict. Like they could they could charge her ghost for that murder if they wanted to and also they do end up spotting her feeding the alligator the crocodile. She thinks it a whole fucking cow surely. That is a crime I sure need here is a crime. No, I'm with Betty White on this one. There's no crime. I don't know. No, okay, if there's a crime in feeding now as much danger in human life. It's it though so hey, hey. Hey, stop. Stop. Look at me Reckless. Look at me right here. Look at me Mom. Okay, you've been attacked or at least threatened by a Canadian goose before? Yeah, but feeding them breads, not a crime. That's true. Thank you. See where I'm going. But geek Canadian geese are indigenous to our region. They do leave that's no but they tell you not to do certain things like not to bring be careful bringing bugs from different areas. I'm and don't feed the frogs and and the koala bears and LOL when those other indigenous creatures like the ones you know, how they yeah, you don't want to screw around with the habitat exactly and that this alligator is this crocodile is definitely not from around here. Now this movie really glazes over that as well. Because it's obviously an impossibility that this crocodile isn't this like they say that it's connected to the ocean. Okay, fine sure. We believe you but there's no real we don't doubt. There's no prequel here. We don't delve into how this crocodile got here and a positive Theory Betty White. Yeah you well. Yeah, I guess my favorite. No. No, it's not that it's not. Okay. It's not necessarily a theory but like yeah, she's definitely responsible for it. Like somehow she got little baby alligators and she decided to raise him in her little like but was this a long-term plan to kill her husband like she got some little baby alligators a nude like 12 years from now that fucker is gone. I'm gonna everyday start with bread. Yeah chicken and then a lamb and then a go. Oh, yes. Yeah and then a husband. Yeah. That's right. I gotta say though. I do love when she goes to feed him that can the alligator dammit god dammit. This is your fault when she brings that cow out in the crocodiles there and he's just like mmm lunch like Just he looks like he's leaning back in his sofa like hey Mom. What's for dinner? That's waiting. Yeah, so patient. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah because mom's bringing him lunch. It's cute. How many alligators do you think during that leg? Do you think it was just too I've been thinking zero alligators. But to crocodile my god, I didn't even get it for a full second and a half. I was like, what are you saying? We're talking about an alligator. Mom. So sorry. No, we're talking about a crocodile movie What's the difference? Right and we okay I asked as I possibly could about it the other day and I got a lot of infographics. Okay, they have different Mouse. That's a there one's got like a shorter snout and their teeth are different. Okay, they don't go like once freshwater one saltwater. I don't think so. Is rich ones poor kind of deal. All right, the alligators are bujji. Yeah, I got the I get the impression of the crocodiles are like stouter like there and I got shorter legs and I got like fatter belly. Yeah, the alligators look like I don't know. They look Sleek. I can't take it. I always thought it was like a seal sea lion or like a turtle tortoise thing. Yeah. We're as want like seals are more cold weather. They're furry. Sea lions are more sleek and rubbery entire dolls fast wet tortoise fast dry throat. You were saying it to me the other day turn you didn't believe it. Yeah tortoise in the desert and stuff. They live in the dirt. I still I can't bring myself to believe. What is this live? Tell her like 300 years old you've seen. Yeah because they're so moisturizing that salt water. That's a turtle them Turtles get that big huh, because Whatever we can't we can't just tangent on this bitch, but it's feels related aren't Turtles sorta. Also close to being some of our oldest most prehistoric in our Turtles. Also dinosaurs much a crocodile is like crocodiles Turtles kangaroos at some point this movie. Everybody starts being friends. Yeah, and they also for the first half are like, we don't know what it is. Is it a crocodile so much of the movie is spent with them on boats being knocked off their boats and then a little bit was it did you see that? No, I didn't see the 80-foot crocodile. Somebody's head gets bitten off and they still don't see it pretty wild though like it that is crocodile just like sneaks in from the Shadows. Like he's lucky that the water's so murky and gross that they can't see under like a foot underneath that water is huge. I guess I have to say Stan Winston effects did the crocodile whenever they're not using CGI and obviously they have to use it for some moments. And it's 1999 CGI. I'm sure it was wonderful when it came out you watch this movie on VHS by the way, and so on and we saw an ad for like a oh, like you've never seen it before dinosaurs. But Disney just like they were bringing you back in time. You'll think you're standing on the precipice of a volcano with a pterodactyl holding hands as you Glide across the landscape of Pangaea it like what I'm getting at is they So close to real life these dinosaurs. It was horrible. It was all it was like watching an old episode of reboot like it was you could see the pixelated surfaces. It's just it makes you look at movies like Lita or tillow whatever the movie was looking at this you're just like heavy CGI movies like yeah who fucking cares how good this looks now in 20 years is going to look like garbage. Oh what you didn't? feel life and digitized It but yeah, so the crocodile looked amazing the face and the I'm sure it was like an animatronic head looks wonderful whenever they did the just coming out of the water shots and stuff. Yeah, always looked dope and the eyes and everything were great. I have to say alligators crocodiles coming out of the water when they're when the they do that stalking thing where it's ours. It's just they're like their eyes and their nose. Yeah, they are so good at being like sneaky. His little eye periscopes and you made it really makes sense with their coloring and how their scale Enos they really disappear under the water. Oh, yeah. They just look like a bit of wood. That's just floating around bit of evil tooth the woods. Oh man coming right at ya, like all of our characters sort of band together at one point because they figured out that there's there is a direction that they can all Point their hate and that's at this crocodile because they don't become better people for this. They don't like change. Change their ways or anything. There's no Arc with these characters. They just Channel their hate from each other to the crocodile in order to save the day. And the most random thing about that is that they are a bunch of odd people to be together. So it makes sense. You're making a checklist like who's coming on this Expedition, but most movies when you write them you have an extreme event and you plan out that extreme event giant unheard of size 30 foot crocodile living in a lake should Not be and then your protagonist come after so you you pick as a writer or a director producer you go who is the most unlikely person to be put in that scenario who would make for the most conflict who shouldn't be here? And let's put them there. Yeah, that's every film ever. Yeah is who doesn't belong here the most let's put them in that situation. This movie doesn't really do that. These people are all kind of just odd random people that you know, it's not on not necessarily for them to be there. There's no way hero's journey. There's no nobody grows as a person. We have a little bit of a romance which is which is nice here. I appreciated it. Yeah, it was they went for a beer at the end. It was kind of cute. Yeah, the only inherent conflict they have here is that this same get along or they just like the city girl doesn't like the woods and she's totally fine with it. She camps she does everything. It's no big deal. But he's like this place is dirty. Like that's your conflict that she doesn't like being there. And as soon as they get over that little hump the next big conflict, is that oh no Wildlife is Gonna Come and they're not going to take the effort to put him to sleep. They're just gonna shoot him. And so the then the police officer the scientist the game guy and the rich guy are all like let us save this crocodiles laugh. Let's shoot it with different bullets. Let's shoot it with darts and they're trying to trap him so that they can save them and transport him, which is something that the Movie did not get correctly know a bunch of scientists were like big huge Discovery. Let's murder blow that motherfucker up. Yeah. That was that was goal. Number one guys. This is why aliens don't visit us basically. Yeah. Hector's got like a weird Death Wish with the crocodiles though, right? Like do you think Hector wants to be eaten by a crocodile over Platts character? I don't know because so every time he puts himself in one of these weird situations. He's really trying to get out of it. That's that's what I don't understand is I want to swim in the crocodiles biggest baddest fuck out of here shit out of the water. He's like, you know BEC back in ancient days. When you were accused of a crime, they would throw you into crocodiles in the crocodiles would decide they were the judge and jury. It's like so you want the crocodile to figure out whether you deserve to live and he's like, I don't know just shrugs it off. He's got no justification. Acacia Nighy just an eccentric rich guy who doesn't know where to throw his money. I feel like he's just a rich guy without a house and he just has his helicopter. So he's living living on the road like Millennials, but instead he's just like, oh here there's a crocodile in Maine Brendan Gleeson. We should also point out how great Brendan Gleeson is in everything that he's in He is wonderful fantastic, but he he doesn't really have a lot to do in this movie like he's got some good one-liners him and they pit him and all of her That together and they're the they're butting heads a lot and it's really funny especially because Brendan Gleeson keeps getting trapped by Oliver Platt and it's fucking great every single time. It is pretty good. It would make more sense. If those guys kissed at the end of the movie instead of Bill Pullman and Bridget Fonda. They don't kiss at the end of the movie. Okay? Okay. No one kisses monastic. I felt like all four of them kissed of friendship. Okay, so they cheers to the bar. Sure. All right, they are BFFs. Oops, they're going to write each other every Christmas and they're going to write the alligator. You don't they sound like great friends because I don't send my friends Christmas cards. Hello. You owe me one helicopter. Yeah. I mean like doesn't the would be like FBI of wildlife reimburse them for the helicopter. I don't know probably not. No you don't think so. No because he there was no reason for him to be there. Can he call dibs on that? Crocodile? Like if they bring it to like a research facility and they get a bunch of money from studying it. Can he be like But that's my crock. No, I'm pretty sure it would go to a Wildlife Foundation. All right, right. Once you catch no, it makes perfect sense that they send somebody from a museum then like at the end of the day. Why was she there I don't know. It could be somebody from the zoo might even be that would have made more sense. I don't understand so they sent it tooth to the museum and the museum was like we gotta get somebody out there like why you're not gonna bring that live animal back to the museum. This isn't King Kong like you're not gonna put it on display like fools and King Kong the like get the theater director. But yeah, so I mean there's up. There's a tussle at the end. They try to catch the croc in a net. We already said they catch him in the helicopter instead. Yeah, and then slowly but surely the tranquilizers work and the alligator the crocodile is caught just in time for the Wildlife Foundation to show up and everything's happy. It's such a nice hat. Ending and we end on Betty White feeding baby crocodiles, although grazing over the fact that there was a second I was gonna I was gonna say this this goes to show how ineffective that that twister that like surprise little jaunt at the ending was because no one cares like oh my gosh second crock blam. Hey Lola. Yeah. It wasn't 30 feet big. They did. Let Brendan Gleeson say that like now we're back down to one was a good line, but I don't know why they they spend so much effort saving one crocodile and then a second one comes they're like, oh what a trailer and it exploded but that was definitely mom and dad because there were a baby crocodile. Yeah, I think maybe I definitely wasn't a reshoot. I was gonna say do you think it might have been a reshoot? So that way they like the other crocodiles made sense like I mean, hey by this time Jurassic Park would come out you show me one crocodile and baby crocodiles. I'll just assume life finds a way but finds way. Yeah, that's what we've all learned everything. Scales fans away definitely. Yeah, it's definitely not like everything with t-shirts and jeans finds a way you view if I was left alone on an island to be like, well, I guess I'm dying here hipsters. Don't find a way. No. Oh man. We just find like Cast Away with a hipster instead of Tom Hanks completely different movie. Like, oh man I'ma set up a little Etsy shop with all this reclaim Beechwood. Fuck I'm gonna make a ton of money with this stuff man. I wish that second crocodile came earlier in the movie. Or you know, I was never sure that it was only one crocodile anyways, because you're like, oh my God, it's so huge and it's just like whatever the different crocodile every time. I would have this lake is just teeming with Crocs. That'd be sweet would have been sweet how so how often is Betty White feeding this thing because she can't she can't afford to be giving it like two cows a day. Also. She seems very pissed off when they show up to to take one of her Cows as eminent domain, which is Genius but why is she so mad? She's clearly raising this livestock to feed to the Crocs. Yeah, but so one it's eating moose has or moose so good point. It's helping itself when it gets hungry. But also I think cold-blooded animals don't have to eat as often as warm-blooded animals because when you have like a pet snake, you only feed it a mouse like once every few days. Hmm. Good point right like you don't feed them as often as you would like a hamster. I gave him a bearded dragon like fruits every day. Yeah, and you would put flies in there and crickets and whatever and they would be in his cage forever. Yeah. I was annoying. I only did that like once a week. It's a good point. Yeah, but I like I had like this pellet food. That was weird. I mean if you look outside Either of you guys could hear that other recording but the house almost exploded. I think I'm not sure the power flickered for a minute. It was like a hum. Yeah. I heard it in my headphones you that means it must have been loud, huh? All right, then I was just gonna glaze over that like nothing happened at edited out for this fucking strange. It does look pretty wild outside right now. Like we're in the eye of a hurricane. All right, Kim bring your microphone over to the window. Let us know what you see. Do you see for horse? Women in the sky goes. Alright, no ghost riders. Okay, not yet. Okay. So what is your rating on Lake Placid Lake Placid, huh? Lake Placid, and it's Whoo doggy? It's a fun movie. I'll give you that so much fun. It is a lot of fun. It's nuts. Not an amazing movie. It is it is a 2.5 out of four for me. That's fair. Yes fair. I'm going to go three out of four. Of course. I had such a great time watching. It is a perfect Summer movie if you haven't seen in awhile, definitely fucking go find it. I don't know idea where it is. We watch it on VHS. I'm sure you own it though, like Go to your parents house go in the basement root around in the old entertainment cabinet blow some dust off things. Check the third level because you're like oh this goes three deep. It does go 3B is back there. That's not full power. No. Okay guys. Well, we're going to go before the computer gets fried and before light bulbs in the ceiling explode. I'm going to unplug my laptop to Okay. This may be the last the soda memory. All right. Yeah, let's let's get let's get into it. Let's pretend like nothing's happening. Let's talk about Anaconda. All right, everybody double check your gear make sure it's all on board. Pray, you didn't forget your bug spray. They have come to the world's most isolated jungle to explore the unknown Amazon ready. I think so and conduct scientific research to prove the existence of a long lost tribe. Shama worship giant snakes anacondas is God's protective. It was this kind of skin. It snakes out. There is Big the skin is three or four years old, whatever shattered has grown since then snakes don't eat people. They don't I said man. I'm getting held back their life. Don't let's go to be prepared. They are the ones being watched the ones being followed. Nobody more the ones being hunted. There's something down there. That's right. I really mean it. I really mean it but not like anything human. We help him. Then he will help us get out of here alive Anaconda from 1997. It's currently sitting at a 4.7 out of 10 on IMDb 40 percent on Rotten Tomatoes 3.5 out of four from Roger Ebert. Well, yeah in two point two out of five on letterboxed. Low scores except from for mr. Ebert who fucking love this movie. I gave him a free glass of champagne before he sat down to watch this one, maybe two We just enjoyed snake. He just likes Jon Voight. Oh, yeah, I love seeing Jon Voight on the water before we get into this. Let's discuss the boat because it's gonna come up. I think quite a bit throughout this podcast. Is it is it a steamboat? Is it a pontoon boat? What gave you the impression? I was a steamboat. There was a lot of smoke coming from it. Maybe steam also it look like the Steamboat Willie boat. Like it was like a raft and then I don't think we yeah. No, I'm yeah. Was no whistling. There was a lot of murder. But yeah, and don't you take steamboats down do you I don't I was gonna say I don't think we you lies steam as an energy source Much Anymore, maybe that's a lie because wait how does nuclear reaction like fission work what? Nobody know isn't the idea that they did not I derailed we're isn't is a nuclear. Is it it still kind of technically? Also Steve like do they take like superhot radioactive pellets and drop it in water and then the water it's so hot that the water evaporates to steam. They trap that Steam and they use that electricity. Yeah, isn't that how it works in a steamboat? Yeah, that's how all steamboats used to work. And that's why you don't see him on the on the Riverboat anymore because they were all dying a radioactive course, they'll give a trail of fish. Is with four heads. Yeah 12 Tails. Its how other boats behind the giant anaconda it makes true. This all checks are sense. This all checks out. Yep. So I don't to answer your question. No, I don't think it's a steamboat and to answer your question. I don't know how nuclear power. Well clearly I did is I think we're on the same page. Oh, holy moly this movie. Do you remember the last time you'd seen it the last time I saw it probably? Bleah whenever it was on TV last it's kind of a movie. I always watch and we did not have cable for a good almost 10 years been a minute. It has been a minute. I could not remember this movie at all. So I may not have seen it since around the time it came out. Maybe they play this around Halloween a lot. They can get away with playing it during the day. Yeah. There's a lot of people in this movie which is about as much as I could say for it in terms of compliments. Wow. Okay polar opposite view. I still love this movie. I think this movie is great. I think this movie is great. Whoa clearly I am in Lake Placid camp. And so if you want to handle an economy, so no I can do it. I can a thousand percent do it this movie kicks ass everything but the human characters well, oh so, you know, oh my bad. You don't want to see a bunch of people get eaten. I don't give a fuck about these people. I want to see them get eating every time they get killed. It's so great. So great. I have no Faults with the Anaconda. I think he's doing his best job being a Rollie Pollie people snatcher. So one question. So now if you didn't know as many anacondas there is a big crawl at the beginning gig skating the Wikipedia. Most people used to worship them as God's you're not going to hear about that at all throughout the rest of the movies. So we got to tell you right now, Secondly unlike other snakes. They ain't poisonous. They are constrictors and they wrap around like you're not going to see any of this in the movie. So we gotta tell you now. But yeah, if you were unfamiliar also anacondas do because they're just assholes they like to regurgitate their food. Yeah. I loved it again guaranteed that whole crawl the beginning that just download of information came from a lot of notes from Executives. Only do snakes do that. Is that a thing snakes do why we should let people Anaconda constrictor. We should let people know that this is what snakes do have you ever ever ever come across a movie that has a brother estate anaconda and I'm like real life. No. Oh so fun story. I haven't me personally, but I did see a photo on a fridge once Now saying that out loud jump out at you at 3:00 a.m. When you were gonna get some snacks, no, no traumatizing experience. No, this is like a friend of the family head of a gigantic had a photo. That was the day my diet stop. It was a photo of this guy friend of the family standing on a ladder a very large ladder holding up this gigantic snake and it he didn't catch it. He just was walking. His dog and like the back half of his property because he had a large plot of land and he came across a dead anaconda in Ontario. What? Yeah. No. Yeah, I think just Canada where somebody free it's somebody owned it. Illegally. I'm sure they're like go your peg gotta eat all the mises. Yeah. Yeah. We know it was Moose's but yeah, he came across this thing and it was gigantic. He saw it just like in like a little ditch. And just like almost died of a heart attack. What do you think you would assume it's alive and he's just like slowly got the fuck out of there. Like went to go call somebody and Rob. Yeah. Yeah. No. No, he got got like the wildlife people and they came and they were like, oh shit. Oh, it's dead. Oh you want to take a photo like this basically how it went that news a couple of years ago how somebody had snake illegally in one of those like crummy apartment blocks and a town. I'm not gonna name. Okay, let's see here though. Yeah, and the snake got loose and it was in a bunch of all these like apartments with young families and stuff. Oh man, didn't he have if I remember correctly. It was one of those yellow snakes. What are they called? What it was like a very illegal snake. I think it was poisonous but he'd had like the Venom removed. Yeah, he'd been milking it misses the turn. I don't know gross. Either way. There was a snake that he wasn't legally allowed to have not legally in his custody boy. Yeah, that's the one. One thing if you're gonna have a legal snakes, you better make sure you're keeping them in a briefcase Miss and don't let him know that he can wiggle the other direction again snakes are all neck their pet a snake before I've touched a snake before. Yeah, like was it like when like that they feel like kind of school or whatever and they yeah, they feel like those finger traps that you got for like 10 cents at the party store. But if those Traps were made out of hot dog. Okay, cool. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you know the finger traps I'm talking about, you know. Yeah, the Chinese finger trap. Yeah is that that's not what they're actually called. Obviously they are I think they are. Yeah, this is what like woven bamboo or yeah, and then as you stretch it you gets tighter. You're like fuck. Yeah, they told me not to do this exact thing that I'm doing right now. It's constricting on my fingers like a snake would like a snake would what do you think of that that snake POV in this movie? I didn't know a snake POV until you told me upset that I didn't get that. It was snake POV. I'm like, why is the camera tilted like that? Like it's the snake and the snakes POV. It's great. Well, they establish it in the cold open remember to I was like king snakes with and you're like, oh can they swim? Okay, buddy. They are fantastic swimmer. Have you not been watching the movie? Damn ya know? I think so. Maybe what I like about that snake POV so much is that it's a movie set on in the Amazon. Right? So you've got all of these these establishing shots where we're floating on the river in our Steamboat back in our Steamboat checking out the riverbed and like you would expect to see that in any movie. Even if this was a dramatic comedy you would have those establishing shots. So you're in that moment, you're not expecting anything and then the camera just tilts a little and shifts and then continues to move and now all of a sudden it's sort of like in a Sinister way. I think that's genius because when you don't expect it and it comes it's super surprising. You totally understand it right away and you're onboard. Am I right? Um, I will say that the POV near the end of the movie was my preferred POV. I'm sure we'll get to it. I don't think I know it P over your tongue. It's quite the POV. I'm a really big fan of that stuff and I like to In this movie and I think the cold opens great. Do you really think that snakes this gotta just be somebody like oh if I was a snake, this is how I'd kill people they don't you don't really think that it like bites a person's head and snaps their neck right like that that snake has a large understanding of anatomy. I'm pretty sure the snake only did that because the camera was on them. Okay? Yes. It's like reality TV waiting for the camera. Yeah, like it wasn't scripted. But like he knew what they wanted to see. Yeah, of course. Yeah, it's not there. You're not planning on it. They didn't do it in during rehearsal. But you know, you hit the ol you called roll you call Action and all of a sudden it just comes out. Yeah, and you only have like four stunt guys to do the take with yeah. It's like you got to snap at least one of their next get it real good crack out of it on the day decision. Yeah, and it worked. I think it was it was great. Take a history. Yeah. Why are we in the jungle? Can you answer me that question? Duh? What's the plot of this movie Jennifer Lopez? It's her big break. Is it she's gonna film this documentary for Eric Stoltz. Is she though because I'm pretty sure Ice Cube is the camera man. Yeah, but what's her actual role is the director is tasty the money is he just the producer? I think yeah, I think he's maybe he's like screen Talent. Yeah, I don't know what they're filming a fool or it's about tribes. Yeah, the Amazon the right trying to find one specific sort of hidden / loss. Maybe they're going to sell it to the History Channel. I guess. She's the director and Eric Stoltz. Is the leader of this Expedition dick of the Expedition? Is he a dick? He's always a dick. Is he supposed to be Marty McFly? I got major dick vibes from him in this movie. Yeah. Okay. I don't know why it's probably because he kind of looks like he might be drunk when he first shows up and he's got a some sort of back history with Jennifer Lopez. Yeah, and I hate God they are in on the boat. Oh, yeah, it's his expedition. They just picked up some stray. Maybe he's trying to call the shots turned off my like alpha dog fights like oh they all of us are fighting. Come on guys. Let's go make grilled cheese and play cards on this card to I don't even think I'm Alpha don't fight the bent the beta group. I'm with Owen Wilson and that girl and Ice Cube sometimes. Yeah. He just wants to listen to his music. Why is this guy? Okay. So here's the here's the thing the host of that documentary is just like oh, could you please turn down that terrible racket, but then later on he's blasting Opera like everybody wants to hear that. I liked him. Damn you like them in the mummy. Yeah, you don't like him in this you know what he kind of becomes a bit of a badass. Okay. So I like him in this. I also like Owen Wilson, but I don't like Owen Wilson in this because like us this movie forgot that Owen Wilson was in this movie halfway through I will just disappears until they need to kill him. Yeah, they're like, oh and wasn't still alive. Let's constrict him. That's because he kind of becomes like one of the bad. He's not really He's gotta be the like that guy. That's like come on. You know what the Amazon makes me really horny. Come on, drink camera girl or whatever you I don't know which make up. What does she do? What is her job the red has she not part of the sound team. Come on sit down girl. Amazon makes me super horny. And then so then they're like dating I guess. Yeah, man, and then he dies and she's real sad and then she dies and nobody's real sad because already they never had. Address her death, they different kind of we just the steamboat keep steaming. Aw. Yeah, I guess they don't have time to we're barreling through this but I don't know that they have time to address your dad. I'm sorry. We missing any major plot points about a snake. We are missing a ton. Thank you very much. I forgot. So we've set up on the Expedition things are going Grand. We've got a map. No one's got bugs in their throat. And then oh some some scary stranger is is on the water. And we gotta rescue him I guess and they do and it's a big mistake. You never rescue guys. Like here's the here's the one thing movies will tell you especially when you can't pinpoint where their accent is from. Yeah. Never be a Good Samaritan is what I'm getting at. That's the one thing movies have taught me. Don't be a Good Samaritan. You're always at your most vulnerable don't pick up hitchhikers especially ones that are like Neck Deep in water river hitchhiker. Yeah River hitchhikers. Where was his boat? Drowned. Okay, so he's in dire need. I mean you pick em up snake ate it. So yeah, where do you think Jon Voight is from because he says Paraguay I often Parkway. No, like that's how he talks in this movie. I don't know. Let's just go with Paraguay. Let's just go go with but he's doing his best pair of Paraguay accent. He does not look like you gave Rivera go out to that much. He looks like he came from the craft Services table. I know a thing or two about hundreds. Nice. There's a thousand ways. You could die happy. Maybe I shouldn't go maybe I should go that's thousand ways. You can die in that River, you know, and then fucking Eric Stoltz chooses a lot. If you had to choose wage to go and you've just been Alpha Dog and for the last two days is that not the words. Oh man. He doesn't drown or anything. He gets a wasp in his mouth. How does that even happen? I love it underwater cutting up a propeller. This is how you assume he's gonna die, right that propeller is Gonna Come on orgy or to see Jon Voight go. Hey, maybe I owe I slip and then make the propeller goes Eric Stoltz loses an arm bleeds out Anaconda each the arm. And then now John-Boy, it's got control the boat. No, it's a wasp and underwater wasp hate. Those wasps. Are they real? No, I don't know what that was. Just making a joke. You have your history with these wasps? Yeah, I pretend you're totally glazing over the best part about the wasp bite. What am I the tracheotomy? I'm getting to that. I was just I was gonna say I feel like I am a tracheotomy XO I for the last 20 years. Years of my life I've felt as though in if the situation arose I bet you though. I could do a paper pen. I could do a pen tracheotomies. So I am saying this though, that's so many people felt confident that tracheotomy was the right move in so many cases. I bet in restaurants. Like there was a rise of choking tracheotomies like yeah, I know what to do and it's just like no he's just choking heimlich maneuver is always the best first. Guess that's As you can die on restaurant there were probably a lot especially in the late 90s a huge surge of unwarranted trachea. Thank you, right because every movie had a tracheotomy. Yeah for a while right? I think it's because of this movie and then they did it on an episode of ER and then now everybody's gotta do it. They all use a pen to write. Oh man. They're totally fine with him doing it. They're not even scared. No it is this strange random and is like click that tracheotomy. Like oh, yeah, so their service life. Yeah. Yes, if this life he's gonna sleep for days. Now, I don't understand what the tracheotomy did because they pull the WASP out of his mouth and goes wasp very poisonous. And yeah, so the tracheotomy doesn't stop the poison from going through his system. Well, I have that if that wasp was not poisonous and it stung him his neck would swell up. So I'm tracheotomy work. I'm assuming that They're bypassing anaphylactic shock in that his throat has closed up. But if you don't have access to medicine that can counter the anaphylactic shop. Does that not go spread to your like lungs and heart and stuff? I would think that's how you I don't think he's specifically allergic but I think anyway getting stung by a wasp inside their throw especially like a poisonous Amazon was yeah. Yeah and also to so let's just talk about so once the tracheotomy is done they punctured his In pipe in his esophagus, right? They taped it up there so he but he cannot regain his speech and nor will he be eating out of his yeah mouth hole. That's okay we cuz we're just not going to show him the rest of the movie problem solved sometimes when the boat gets red. Oh man, why do they cut to him for reaction shots? Because it's the best. It's just an asleep Eric Stoltz like frowning my sister proposal in in this bed. Oh, man, he's gotta recover. Oh boy. Occasionally Jennifer Lopez will like sit by his bed. Like, oh, you know everything's gonna be okay. We're a little scared right now. We don't know what's going on, but it's gonna be great. We shop sometime but footage nice stuff post been commandeered by an evil guy hell-bent on catching a giant snake no idea for any lost of fuel. Yeah. Oh, yeah immediately four cans of fuel gone. Yeah, and then they also keep like during these giant warning eat Odom's and also a barrier that was created out of like sticks and twigs and there's just a big wall kind of like a dam blocking out a certain path in the river and they're like, we're going to blow it up with dynamite surely. This is not keeping anything out. But then when they blow up this giant wall, it's filled with snakes. Yes snakes. It's a snake everywhere wall was built by snakes. It was a wall. Of snakes. It was not logs. It was snakes and you blow them up with dynamite. So now they're mad snakes. Yeah. This guy's like a reverse Indiana Jones. He's got no problem with snakes and he just laughs at them like, oh ha ha ha no snake or whatever and they just like brushes it off the boat. Everybody else is dying inside because they're covered in snakes. It's around this time that he's decided. He's commandeering the ship. It's his now. It's basically his Captain's been wasp. Yep. That's that's how you do it and and he definitely has some sort of history with Mateo the driver of the boat. I'm say captain. No because he doesn't like a boss orders. Yeah. It's like the hired he's wheel firsthand. He's a mate we're going mate first. I think he's the captain. He is the sherpa of the water. Okay Navigator. He's the Navigator. Why do they need to have The back story between them they even them know and Danny Trejo from the cold open at the beginning especially to because they go to investigate this other boat that's been Shipwrecked. I can you be strict Shipwrecked in a river. We're going to say strip tricked. It's been Shipwrecked they're going to see if maybe there's fuel there and Matteo gets left behind obviously gets eaten by the Anaconda. It's wonderful, but so good. Jon Voight doesn't care. No, like he just give zero fucks and then he hides there's a newspaper there of him with Mateo and Danny Trejo. Yeah, I love how we're using half character names happen. Unfortunately, we don't have a Tails name and he's like, oh he hides it too because he doesn't want them to know that they're all in cahoots, but it doesn't matter then everybody's dead immediately after that so - yeah, it really doesn't matter what she's doing a one-man show this whole time basically. Yeah, the only way that that would be an issue is if Then later found out that they were targeted by these guys. Maybe they were like, I assume I assume Jon Voight Knew What boat he was getting on or at least knew that they were headed maybe in that direction the point is he got on their boat because he didn't want to use his own boat. I guess he didn't have his own boat and I'd ring and he's like, yeah panna cotta could fit on this Anaconda could fit on this and lots of food on that boat for the Anaconda. I think that's what he's really concerned about is having enough to eat and then up Bay. Wait for that Anaconda. Pushy American filmmakers. Good bait. Oh, yeah, you need that. Good high fat content. What's your favorite Anaconda? Kill him this movie. Um, I like the the waterfall snatch is pretty good. Oh, yeah, that's the British guy writes the British guy. Yeah ends up like climbing up into a waterfall trying to get away and he jumps out of that waterfall because he's got no choice and Anaconda has found him inside that waterfall and it snatches him out. Are which is pretty wonderful, I love it. Yeah the see the CGI is what year is this movie? 1997. The CGI is a little 1997. Yeah, but I think it just makes for a fun to watch now watching because CGI early CGI just fucking went for it. Like really just went for it. Like do we do we have enough Clarity and definition to be able to put these with live-action people we sure do. - yeah, we do. We're gonna make them the main title monster and are we gonna are we going to Jaws it are we gonna hide it? No, we're gonna have it snatching people out of the air. I thought the Anaconda looked fine. They even now I think it looks fine. All right, it looks like a computer but that's fine period and the vark looks fine. Yeah. I think my favorite kill maybe like a two-parter. I'm going to cheat. My favorite kill is Mateo. I think the snake looks great in that scene. It's kind of what it comes down to like it lunges at Mateo and he's able to dodge it a little bit. It's like whoa, good movement a oh, I wouldn't have gotten that done judge. And but then it's still just like coils them up and just breaks his goddamn neck. It's also very fast to like for how huge and because that's our first big snake sequence with the people were following here. And for Mateo to be an bonded so quickly and so abruptly was was nice because you expect them to really relish it for how much they show the snake. Yeah. They're very quick with the kills which I guess must be must be factual like maybe anacondas Duke ilk really quickly. Yeah, because I may want to just they just squeeze you until your your ribs punctured your lungs till you stop breathing and then they're like yo, yeah. Yeah. Yeah tenderize that meat and I always I always assumed I Is confuse the Owen Wilson and Mateo death because my favorite bit added to that is is when you see the snake swimming away and just an imprint of Owen Wilson on the snake. Is it swimming in the water? I love it. The person shape in there was pretty funny. Oh, I love it. I love it so much. It's so good though. We've gotten down to like our Core Group. There's barely anybody left. For some reason. Jon Voight has not decided to use Eric Stoltz as bait guys come. Lately unconscious just a newborn baby Lamb bedroom the whole time. Oh, you can cut them out while he's down. You know, like I guess he's got some sorta honor coat that the sound girl off the boat. Whoa. Okay. Can we back up for a second? Because he's tied he's got his hands tied behind his back on like a poster something. He's sitting on the ground and because she is distraught over Owen Wilson's death. She's like, I gotta kill this motherfucker. She's the only one that gets it by the way, they do not they do not need to This guy up and keep them right? I know they just they just need to wait till the snakes there and push them in the water or get rid of them then by other means but which is movie 101 if you're getting tied up in this happens again in the movie because Jon Voight ties up Jennifer Lopez and Ice Cube. Yeah, you do not tie people up anybody you type in film will get out unless you're the strangers then you won't that's the is can you think of another film where people are tied up in they do not get out? Out no, exactly. That's basically it maybe maybe zodiac true crime documentaries. Do not counter True Crime films do not count. Okay. Bye. Well, then obviously Anaconda doesn't count. This is a documentary. But Jon Voight defies all physics and just somehow leaps in the air with it's like okay so from but to yeah with hand he'll tied behind. Find the poh. This doesn't even make sense if he wasn't tied up if he was just standing on the ground. There's no way Jon Voight able to do that. He snatches that woman's neck in his thighs and just like anacondas her and kicks her off the boat. I don't know man. It's it looks great though. Oh fuck it looks fun. That's all I'm saying. Jon Voight is a snake in this movie. I was just thinking that oh my God. Yeah. That's why he needs to kill the Anaconda because it know he knows it's gonna Has evolved so Army laughing an alpha with Eric Stoltz and his real Alpha is with the Ana cut. Like only one of us can be like I would love to hear John voice process in his character. Like I If if he created a backstory for his character, I want I want that book A lot of my want him to write that book. I want to know everything about his characters backstory because he sounds like Have some Adventures. I don't know. I feel like this was a I'm gonna say like a paycheck but I don't think a whole lot went into the development of the character. You don't think so. Oh, no, you don't think he thinks about every character not this one. Not this one. All right. This is a popcorn movie. Sorry John. Hmm. The tables have turned. Once again though. Jon Voight is out and he is ready to capture that snake. He's gonna like Kim said he's got Jennifer. Perez an ice cube chained up in an empty Warehouse because it's a good idea. It's like the snakes house, right? It is like the snakes house the snake has decided to lay some eggs in a old research facility. I've no idea what with a silo it kind of looks like the set of Deep Blue Sea. It is super cool set though. It's got a whole bunch of Amazon e things happening, you know, there's some leaves and Vines and gigantic smokestack. I thought it was a silo. Oh no Saddles of those things. Barnes yeah does big wide huge fat things not those toppings super tall but like 30 feet wide you can have different size silos John. They're not all grain silos. Some of them are corns who's got like a smokestack Silo a by the way corn would also be in the same silence. They're like the same size. Silo smoke side the jury's still out. But yeah, he's covered them in Blood and Guts and stuff from monkeys. Is that what he said? Yeah, okay because the snake hasn't been attracted to just their their Ross wet. Anyway, it was probably going to come for them regardless. I guess he was just trying to speed up the process. Yeah, he does come in the water. He does manage to catch that snake. He catches that snake with so the the snake constricts Ice Cube and Jennifer Lopez and then gets constructed in a net. Yeah. Yeah, there's a lot of construction happening here. Yeah, so he seems very concerned about because they want to kill a snake and he's like us no God don't make that is he just gonna sell it as a living thing. He isn't take me as the kind of guy who sells Taxidermy and it's gonna be like some Christmas decoration around is chiz use drop. Oh, man. Man, that would go around the whole house. Yeah, purely a pride thing. I think so. Then it really he just wants to be the person to kill it. Yeah, that's probably all it is but he says it's worth nothing to me dead. Hmm because he needs to do it snake poachers. This is mm. I'm sure a snake Fang fetches a good amount of money, but probably the only have I guess it's concern is he doesn't want them to shoot it in the face somehow. I don't really remember how Jennifer Lopez and Ice Cube get out though. And and Jon Voight. Guess what? Up by that Anaconda because it's a jerk. He's a huge jerk and the snake knows it now quickly as it would give them is just the other POV shot. You wanted to talk. Yeah, the inside the Anaconda catch the snake eat Jon Voight from the inside. So it's great. It's like a conveyor belt to the afterlife Michael Rosen Oscar. Colonoscopy looking at that's pretty gross. Oh man snakes on the inside a really just giant intestines intestines with teeth at the end. I honestly have no idea how they work. I gotta assume. That's what it is. Right? Like it's basically just one with giant long into it like those people that have like all of their stomach removed and they have to eat constantly all day. Yeah, but in a snake though, if you're all stomach intestine, where is your heart and lungs and stuff the top and are snakes the same as worms. I know that if you cut a worm in half, I don't think snakes are the same as worms. It was a still no, I just mean the same like you mean you get to some eggs good. I have to sneak to do that. I think it's because worms don't have eyes. Also. I'm kind of sad that snakes come from eggs, right because I'd really like to see a pregnant snake. I think that would be wonderful. Could you imagine us neatly? The belly I just make your day. I think it would just look like a snake that was full on food. I got it would look like Owen Wilson but featured it was Oh man, how many babies do you think are in each of those eggs? You think it's just one you think it's like 30, you can't happen. It's about spider eggs. I don't know how this shit works. You can only have one egg per baby or one baby per egg. You sure. Yeah. I don't know the rules here unless I guess you have those weird like we know nothing about snakes where it makes twins like a human egg. We're like, oh God, there's two yolks. And yeah. It's all about that snake POV cam though. Like it doesn't get any better than that. I'm so glad that they waited to the end for it. And of course like you knew it was gonna happen. It's coming after Jennifer Lopez, but it's going to slow down by that Jon Voight weight. So it regurgitates them and he's all gross. He's all like slimy how many wings Exeter? Yeah now as I favor Our the movie so from the swallow scene I had so what's your opinion on that wink? You think that wink is just a like a muscle contraction like you think he's dead. I think that's a meta movie not I think it's like okay because he tries to not he doesn't try to rape her, but he definitely he definitely is creepy about her and she tries to use that to his advantage to like Whack Him over the head with a frying pan. Yeah, which doesn't work out. He's he knows her game. He's like, it's been a long time. I'm since, I've had a woman and he's rise again. Yeah, I think yeah, I think it's just a not like I'm a dank. I kept wanting to just hear him like an outtake or something say like I would love it though. If this man survived that snake attack and then retired to Washington DC where his son stole the Declaration of Independence, this is bad guy in this. We changed his evil way of course. Yeah. Yeah, of course do those babies hatch the end. No because they burned the thing down because member Jennifer Lopez has to get out of the top of the Silo and she's clan of The Silo good and she's o Great Snake is like Barrel it up that smokestack Silo. Yeah, they blow it up in the snake gets out and when I gets out but like the snake barely makes it out dies in there she gets Doubt she jumps. She should die. Like there's no way she's surviving that Trump whatsoever. But up fine with it and everything's cool. Eric Stoltz is awake. They you know, the alarm clock went off and he got up he's able to smile box and then these people who worship snakes that they've been looking for the people of the Mist show up. They should want nothing to do with these people if they worship these snakes like Gods, maybe they feared them like Gods Maybe There's a fine line between the two jaw. You have set us free from the tyranny of this evil. God who kept us in the Mist ha ha we want the ability to enjoy happy hour and NBC Primetime television. I don't understand that fucking that nigga. It's I like this movie a lot though. It's movies. Great. They really this movie went hard though because they really gave up that document. Every pretense pretty early on like they stopped filming from the first shipwreck visit as soon as Mateo was down and missing there was no more. Oh, we're going to try to get some footage because you should have shot everything. Yeah. Well, I guess Eric Stoltz is like I'm done in the back room. They're like, haha. We don't have to work. I'm ready to get to ratings. Are you ready to get your home? Ready? It's ready. Okay, so I'm gonna go first sure this movie wasn't as fun as it could have been Despite the fact that it has a gigantic snake constricting a bunch of people. It was way too serious. It was so serious. Yeah. Yeah. It was a big movie. It was huge. The buyer know how much it made but I remember this movie being it did make a lot of money Talk of the Town when it came out. Yeah. Um, I don't know. I wanted to be way funner. The premise isn't crazy though. It's just some of their performances are a little while. Whatever, what's your rating one and a half out for one and a half out of four? Yeah. Wow. Yeah, really didn't like it. Oh man. I love this movie. Like I really like this movie like this is my like Placid and I think that's it. Can I give it a two point seven five? Sure. Okay, because threes really high for it. But I gave like plasma 2.5. I think we put a little bit of time and then regarding the front half in the back half of this episode so I don't really remember but I do like this movie a lot more than Lake Placid and maybe the problem. I like Pleasant isn't Lake Placid is none. It's too much fun so much fun. Now it's shouldn't be so much fun. It has no seriousness to it. You don't take it gets cut in half. And you laugh there's no it's a nervous response John. Okay. Well where I think that Lake Placid is maybe a little too goofy. I find Anaconda to be just like oh so historically accurate. Oh good. No the battle of the alpha. I want to be the only person laughing at the screen is what it comes down to you know what I mean? Like when you're watching Anaconda, you're not supposed to laugh, but you do you're just like that's what makes this so great. Whereas with Lake Placid the jokes are there and there may be there may be Landon but it's I don't even know what you're arguing. I don't know what I'm arguing either. You got me off of the weird tangent. I just like an anaconda. I like that. I like to look at the snake. I love the kills. I think it's great. Cool. Well, that's that then yeah tweeted us and let us know what you thought of anaconda and Lake Placid and what you are watching this summer Creature Feature wise. We have a bunch of monster movies in the theater now and coming out crawl is out now. 47 47 years down is coming out uncaged chain and plus everybody's watching Jaws. Everybody always watches Jaws. Let us know which jaws has you watch this summer. Let us know how many times you watched your jaws has. Yeah. Did you watch number one three times? Number two, two times number three one time skip number of or you can tweet at us at NFS podcast. 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Join Kim and Jon on this week's episode of Nightmare on Film Street for the perfect summertime horror subgenre: Animal Attacks! We're taking a quick break from our month-long salute to Stephen King to discuss the killer crocodiles of LAKE PLACID (1999) and the suspiciously-hungry snakes of ANACONDA (1997). Come for the water monsters, stay to hear two dummies that don't know the difference between a crocodile and an alligator. Oh, and there's a strange power surge halfway through the episode that maybe almost killed us dead. Enjoy! This week, Patreon supporters (https://www.patreon.com/nightmareonfilmstreet) can enjoy an exclusive companion episode where we continue the conversation on LAKE PLACID and ANACONDA with a little game we're calling "Monster OR Madman?”, available at http://www.patreon.com/nightmareonfilmstreet. 