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Our goal is to help you become the go-to. A movement professional the great Institute podcast is questions based you send in your questions and we discuss them. We join Gary as he discusses optimal body movement and function for our clients. If you're listening and have a question e-mail them to info at Great Institute.com from Gray Institute. I'm Gary gray and this is the gray Institute podcast. Welcome everyone to our ongoing series of podcast. First of all, I want to tell you how much We appreciate your feedback and especially your feedback associated with additional questions that will stimulate us to learn but also give us an opportunity to share during this special time of Thanksgiving Thanksgiving. By the way. I'm sure it's many of ours kind of favorite season not expecting to have to give anything not expecting to get anything. But just the expectation of being able to sit back a little bit and just being thankful and so many things. To be thankful for that. I don't even want to start with the list because the list would go on and on and on and hopefully you'd get bored with the podcast of so many things that we all are thankful for just the ability to share with each other and the opportunities we have as movement Specialists to have people come into our midst and asked for our help and we hopefully can give it our best shot today. We again have a twofer a twofer means one person. Writes a question, but then they write two questions and both of them really need to be answered. Both of them are perfect. And so therefore we're going to go to for both of these questions are from Matthew Haley and Matthew. I really appreciate these questions and we'll get a really good insight to Matthews understanding of human movement, which I think is exquisite. Very good just by his very first question and then we'll go on to a second question. So let's just go ahead and get started because this first one is first one is a question near and dear to my heart. I'm going to just kind of read it as is I'm looking for your thoughts around performing exercises with a patient with scoliosis. Do you encourage movement mainly in the pattern that goes opposite the curve to encourage new pattern and must neuromuscular control and avoid moving in the already dysfunctional pattern or is some value and moving in the Old pattern I into the curve. So to speak in all three planes to encourage good Mobility even in that pattern. Wow. We got a big while there. So let me first of all let you know that the answer to this question is going to be found in our gray Institute YouTube channel for our gift program the gray Institute for functional transformation are 40 week mentorship program. We put together a six-part What we call PST process the truth the strategies and the techniques associated with understanding and treating scoliosis. We no longer can hold this back just for the gift Community. We need to get it out there and to share it with everyone and therefore besides me trying to verbally answer this what I would consider extremely complex and three-dimensional question of feel free to go to our YouTube channel and go through those six. Um videos that I think will give you some really good insight into our approach to treating scoliosis based on pure human function. One of the other resources, I would strongly suggest that you get is a book by the name from Christina leaner schroth. They called the schroth method of treating scoliosis. She wrote this book. I believe back in 1972 before I even became a physical therapist. East and strangely enough. I didn't know about this book until just a couple years ago when I was sharing our approach to scoliosis someone at a chain reaction seminar raised her hand and said with you have this book and I said no and they said well, it sounds somewhat similar because she talks about a three dimensional approach for scoliosis. And of course as they know and as you all know, we that's been our approach ever since we started try to understand human movement is a three dimensional approach so that It's a Wonderful Resource as I go through the book which I have a number of times there are some principles and strategies that we go Amen to and there's a few that we would say, I'm not really sure about that one and hopefully our better understanding of human function has allowed us to progress and understand that even better and hopefully it even progresses even more as more people are being able to take care of someone. With scoliosis, let me start answering the question and chain reaction when we talk about that. I'll normally set up a story and tell a story about how my daughter at age 12 going on 13 and going on 26. So to speak wanted to go to Florida with another family and I thought that was a great idea during spring break until I saw the swimming suit that she had picked out and told her that I wasn't really happy with the swimming suit in the It goes on and I embellish it quite a lot by indicating that my daughter gets upset throws a swimming suit down and when she goes back down to pick it up in her frustration of not having a father that understands and who doesn't trust her. I quickly see this posterior rib hump and my heart sinks and so I immediately look around and everyone and chain reaction is just so who wants to treat my daughter and then we get into so what are we being taught in physical therapy school and to my dismay over the last three years and chain reaction. I have not yet had a physical therapist that says I have confidence in treating that theoretically is being doctors of physical therapy doctors of human Movement. We should raise her hand very proudly and go I'd like to shot at your daughter and see if I can help her some one person said well our professor. All this that it's no use even learning anything about it because it can't be helped. I don't agree with that. And of course they go to the evidence-based research and the research that's out there says that if you do physical therapy exercises for some of the scoliosis, it's never been proven to improve and we're not sure if they didn't Hibbett the curve so we just sit back and and watch it progress what the research should say is non-functional one. Channel exercises without any consideration to all three planes of motion and no consideration to the potential cause of scoliosis and no consideration to forces that would ultimately result in the scoliosis not taking consideration. Those exercises don't seem to help scoliosis. We now have a number of case studies that the scoliosis that has Treated not only has been inhibited but it has been significantly improved even over 50 to 75 percent. We do not have any record of summing having scoliosis and taking them back to what we would call a zero degree frontal plane and zero degree transfers plane, but hopefully this encourages us to kind of look at this closer and to understand scoliosis. So one of the very first questions I'll ask is so is scoliosis. A sagittal plane problem of frontal plane problem or a transfers playing problem. And of course when we measure scoliosis, we measure the frontal plane deformity and we measure the rotational rib hump and but it's really a three-dimensional deformity that we have to take in consideration. Is it a neurological problem a muscular problem or a skeletal problems and the neuromusculoskeletal problem or is it just one of those and of course the answer is yes. It's got to be neurologically. Of this got to be muscular involved in his skeletal involved. Is it a problem relative to the muscles and Mobility or is it strength and stability or is it endurance and again the answer all of a sudden becomes? Yes, is this a top-down problem a bottom-up problem or a side-to-side problem in the answer is yes. Is this a body problem or is this a mind problem or is this what we would call an emotional spiritual problem and the answer is yes. So not knowing exactly what caused the scoliosis why all of a sudden somebody's spine decides to take off in a curve. We have to approach it in not only a three dimensional way from each plane of motion, but three-dimensionally neuromusculoskeletal e three-dimensionally as in Mobility stability endurance three dimensional as in the top down bottom up the side to side and forward two back and also three-dimensionally as in Body and spirit we're dealing with the human being that's dealing with something that's scary and very frustrating and again in my embellish story. I indicate that after I explain to my daughter that she now can go to Florida and the her swimming suit is fine because that no longer bothers me that will need to go to the doctor and get evaluated. My daughter immediately goes in and types and scoliosis and YouTube in the very second video she seizes Has a surgery of a Harrington rod and of course that all of a sudden puts on the panic attack when we go see the doctor the doctor does a great job doing the staining X-ray and measuring the curve but with a c curve or an S curve and or sometimes we see a even a four-part curve, but then says you know what we'll just kind of we're just going to observe this and see what happens and if it gets worse, no big deal just throw Harrington rod in her but hopefully doesn't get any worse. Well. There's no guarantee there. And of course I is the father who was then isn't there anything we can do about it? And of course the doctor would say research quote-unquote says that it can't well we haven't done the right research yet and hopefully this will stimulate a lot of thoughts doing the right should research and there is a lot of evidence based research and findings that have been out there since 1972 on taking a look at scoliosis more three-dimensionally more 3D So knowing that there's a couple principles that we bring out in the video that I believe will help answer your question Matthew. And the the first thing we do is when we talk about creating mobility in all three planes of motion, we realize what we're going to do is we're going to have to have 4 Points of attachment in a standing position because of the proprioceptive input and feedback. Where we create a Mobility the opposite of the direction of the curve now scoliosis curves are what we call type 1 all that means is if I have a scoliosis and we'll just start with a simple C curve and I'm laterally flexed to the left where the concavity is on the left hand side. The convection is on the right hand side. I will always have a posterior rib hump on the right hand side, which means I'm rotated to the right so laterally Flex left rotated. Right that's called a type one from osteopathic terminology curve. We also know that most of these curves have a big component of kyphosis. So there's a sagittal plane component a frontal plane component in the transverse plane component. So in order to make sure we're not stealing from Peter to pay Paul to mess up Mary. We have to create an environment which we show in the YouTube videos where we have to have the feet stable and the Hand stable. And create a driver with the pelvis and the head to facilitate Mobility. So let's say we have a curve that again is laterally flex to the left concavity on the left convexity in the right right rotated, which is the posterior rib bumps, right and kyphotic. We need to position from a top-down posture. We need to position the hands where I get extension and I get lateral flexion to the right and I get rotation to the left which is Just the opposite now. This is the mobility approach. We have to create a new path the path that we want to facilitate. We also need to do that bottom up before this dealing with the c curve bottom up. We have to position the feet to facilitate the bottom-up reaction that we want to again quote unquote, correct the curve from the bottom up through Mobility. Now knowing that we have four points of attachment right hand left hand right foot left foot. No, now if we do the right positioning of the feet and the hands to create that New Path of Mobility opposite of what the curve is showing us that the patient can't basically sneak out of the curve and cause the curve worse. So for example, if I just did a frontal plane if I just tried to get this person to only do frontal plane reaction, literally what would happen the path of least resistance of The that particular patients back would actually increase the right rotation. So it would bail out and literally I would be causing ultimately a bigger curve when the patient relaxed and went back to their normal relaxed state that increased right rotation would facilitate an increased lateral flexion to the left. And even though my heart was in the right spot. I wasn't thinking three-dimensionally. So therefore Mobility has to be attacked three-dimensionally. Stability on the other hand is quite interesting. And I think this is the Eureka moment that we had is knowing that in order to overcome a problem. We have to what we call an applied functional science feed the deformity and here's what that means if I have somebody that's just simply Kai photic. Let's say they don't have a scoliosis, but they do have a sagittal plane kyphosis. We would say we have to Approach this three dimensionally and but if we were going to create a reaction, let's say in the thoracic spine. The reaction for strengthening would be to feed the deformity. In other words. We would have weights in the patient's hands and the patient then would be instructed to let the weights go down to their need to increase the thoracic kyphosis. So the entire chain reaction of the body through the ankles and the hips and the thoracic spine and shoulders would say, whoa. Whoa, we don't want that. We're going to decelerate that. We're going to turn on proprioceptors. And now we're going to return through what we call the con Centric production of force after The Eccentric load that will then decrease the thoracic kyphosis. So the loading of the curve has to be something that feeds the curve in all three planes of motion. That's another big a streak. We can't just pick on one plane because Going to still have the same path of least resistance bailout phenomenon. So this is a hard one at least for me to try to describe even in my own brain here. But again, when you go through the videos, let's say we have that same C curve. I'm laterally Flex to the left top down my concavities on the left side my convexities on the right side of my posterior rib humps on the right side. What I'll say is I have a weight. I'm going to put in my left hand or right hand and I'm going to have this weight and I'm going to have hold it overhead and I'm going to let it come down past my shoulder and then I'm going to explode it up. So I'm going to load and explode in what we call a shoulder press and the question is which hand if I'm attacking the frontal plane curve. Would I put the weight in well, if you put it in the left hand and you now let the weight load you it's going to load you into even more lateral flexion to the left. It's going to increase the frontal plane curve. That's what we want though. A lot of people will say well if Put in the right and that wait hold you down. It's going to correct the curve know what that's going to do. It's going to stimulate proprioceptive lie, exactly the opposite of what we want and we see a lot of the table exercises. We were taught in physical therapy school for scoliosis one dimensionally. We all of a sudden not only get embarrassed but our heart sinks because we quickly realized that a lot of the exercises we've been taught to do in a neurophysiological neuromusculoskeletal way in increase the curve at the same time that we would then load that frontal plane from the top down in the we would load the transfers playing. So now we have this long bungee cord at shoulder height and we would say so where do I want to hook the been G chord in order to facilitate the reaction I want so I have a handle in my right hand. I still have that white in my left hand. And so the handle I want the cord to pull me to the right to make the curve worse. So Literally if you saw me with this bungee cord and I just relax and I let it pull me to the right rotate the right and you I just let the weight down. I relax. I just let the weight come down on my left hand. You would see that my curve got worse. I have more lateral flexion to the left from the free weight more rotation to the right with the bungee cord. But that's what I want. I want to feed the deformity. And again, I have to do this only after I do the mobility exercises to create that, New Path. So now that third plane of motion the sagittal plane, we let the free weight do that as well where we actually bring the weight down and forward so it throws us into little bit of kyphosis. So when I do the exercise, so to speak I explode the weight up and back which simply will take the weight up and back and a little bit to the right which will instantaneously correct the curve with the concentric contraction and at the same time, I will pull the bungee cord. My right hand and I will do a right hand right rotational Pole where I'll excuse me, a left rotational pole will I'll pull over in front of my chest where now I am correcting the transfers plane curve in the thoracic spine now, hopefully that's somewhat confusing because we're listening to it on a podcast and trying to figure out this three-dimensional reaction. We do a lot of Twee ecology with that top down, but then at the same time if I have a c curve I am going to do something with the feet that you again, you'll see on the video. I have to change the height of the leg length with a book to facilitate the reaction of the pelvis and then I have to create a lunge a transverse plane lunch to facilitate what I want the pelvis is doing again in the mobility sense of that. I want to go opposite but for stability, I want to load the curved bottom up as well as top down now if I have a Curve logic would say and we've had very good results with this that we treat the top curve top down in the bottom curve bottom up that way again the patient can't bail out. And again, we have to do it three-dimensionally and because we're attacking all three planes of motion at once and we're creating movement to stimulate the proprioceptors to turn on the muscles to facilitate the joint reaction. It's neuromusculoskeletal because we do Mobility then stability and we Add a big component of endurance to this with their exercises, its three-dimensional that way and because we're attacking it top down bottom up and right to left and left to right and forward two back. We have our bases covered and we're giving that patient every opportunity to basically begin to correct the neurological and myofascial and skeletal responses of their body that created this Leo's to begin with to begin to correct the scoliosis by going against the three Curves in mobility and feeding the three curves with stability top-down bottom-up right left left right forward and back back forward with four points of attachment and four points of control at all times so we can't bail out. So hopefully that somewhat helpful. But again, that's why we're going to have the videos up there so you can take a peek at look at the videos and go through all Six parts, we broke broken them up and it's broken up in a way that I think most movement professionals can kind of take a look at that and say you know what? Let's let's give this a shot. Let's see what we can do here to help out one of our gift fellows Ed pageant. You'll see some of his videos as well on YouTube does an amazing job. So when he took gift, he learned this approach to scoliosis and it's become a passion of his and he's done amazing things with patients even documented. Against improvements in their curves and obviously significant improvements in their ability to live and enjoy life because of what he's done. We have a lot of our gift fellows out there who do that and because of their understanding that the human body through the 40 week mentorship program of gift they have this ability to really understand the truths of what's really going on the strategies that emanate from the truths and what the techniques look like and sadly the techniques look a lot different than what we were taught. In school simply because we didn't ask ourselves. So what's really potentially causing this? What's the truth? And how do we want to approach this? So Matthew? Thank you for the opportunity to share this with you and simulate some thought on the proper treatment of scoliosis. 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Are you ready to invest in yourself and your career in order to better invest in your patients clients and athletes check out gift at the gray Institute website at gray, Institute.com and click on mentorship at the top Doug Gray is the president of great Institute and the director of gift Doug has a unique history with the movement industry as he is the youngest son of dr. Gary gray his experiences and expertise have allowed him to enjoy multiple roles at Great Institute his world lights up when there is mention of his wife Valerie his son Zion win or his daughter Lawson. Let's join Doug as he talks about continuing education. All right gray Institute. As listeners, this is Doug Gray and per usual. I have yet another treat for you. And the reason I know it's a treat is because it's a treat for me to talk to people in general, especially those applied functional scientists that are out there just doing absolutely amazing things. And the person that I get the privilege of interviewing is no different and it's a friend of mine but also a colleague and he has quite the story to tell he's very captivating but what you're going to find out Is he is very passionate about movement. And so without further Ado. I would like to introduce you all to Jason humaira Jason. Thanks so much for being on the gray Institute podcast. Dougie really appreciated and what a welcome. I wish my wife was in here. I don't think I've ever been called a treat before so we're going to put that down in the record books as a first timer there and I know you just made my day. So hopefully everyone listening gets the enjoy that right there along with me. Well grade wasn't that the beauty of recording it's mastered forever. So you be able to share that with her as much as possible. But you know, I just want to thank you for being on this podcast segments per usual. I like to interview people with a little Of a fluid QA. I really want our listeners just to hear more about Jason humaira hear more about your journey hear more about what you're up to and hear more about how they can find out more on what you're doing. So I'm going to kick it off and really give you the floor and it's kind of an open-ended statement that kind of doubles as a question, but explain to our listeners your journey. Absolutely. Well, thanks for that that prep set up right there. So my journey with AFS actually stole started back in 2014 at that time. I was actually my eighth year in the health and fitness industry. I was personal trainer Fitness manager ran my own Taekwondo studio in the Upper West Side in New York. And at the time I had always been kind of searching and seeking for more. So right around my first year of postback work going back to Physical therapist I was kind of In This Very suggestive state of what to do next. I know I wanted to help people. I know I wanted to get more into the science nerdy and of human movement and the only path I had seen at the time was physical therapy. So I was around that time that state kind of intervened and I came across another gift fellow guy by the name of Justin Gelb and where I started working at a boutique Fitness Studio in New York City called old model fit back at the time and it was it was this kind of interesting intriguing Blended Fusion of small micro movement paired with different angles that I had really kind of never seen before and the fitness side of me became extremely excited and entice but the scientific side of me was kind of like whoa, whoa, whoa putting people in some kind of interesting positions here at what exactly you're doing and he knew me at the time getting ready to be a physical therapist and get into PT school and he's like, Whatever you do and his you know, Justin go been way dude. I'm telling you man. Whatever you do. Don't do it that was straight-up verbatim out of his mouth. Don't do it until you talk to these guys gray Institute. And of course, I was kind of open minded and into everything. So I was like, I'll give him a call and it was I believe I don't know if you remember Doug it was back right around November December 2014. I definitely got you on the phone for a good 45 50 minutes and I'm sure it was the same thing y'all get from everyone which is Is hey, what is this? AFS stuff Hey, where's all the signs? Hey, why does this work? Hey, I see some really, you know, interesting things going on and you know, I'm not gonna lie. I don't remember what answers you gave me but I do remember how you made me feel and I think that was why I kind of say it was a it was a stalled start because it wasn't so much about the what but it was the how and the why that really got me to kind of recharge my course and I decided That time that I was going to forego the the rest of my post back journey and divert my attention away from an official degree in physical therapy and I was going to check out this thing called guest and gray Institute. So I enrolled for the 2015 class with the support of Justin and a few other classmates that we had at the time and again referring back to the had stalled start. It took me a good three months to once again kind of say what the heck am I doing here and it wasn't until that van ride in a Ian and March of 2015 where things began to really kind of come together and again, it was more about the people it was more about the feeling. I remember when you first walked into the pizza party. I was like, yo, he's much bigger than he looked on TV. I was like, but that guy is and it was it was more than just your physical presence. It was the you know, I don't use spiritual terms. That was more like the aura the sent the the spirit that came in the room and Your dad came in right behind you. Dr. Gary gray Dave to be real came bopping around. I think he might have been you know smothered by you guys rolling in but if he all came in I was like, wow these guys that I've seen for three months telling me about it, you know, the principles in the truths of Applied functional science gravity Graham reaction Mass momentum and and all the reasons that this stuff actually works. I'm like, these are the guys that birthed it. You know, these are the guys that really took their Vision. They did the work they did the research 40 ears over worth of trial and error observational experimentation to say hey this stuff worked and I realized at that point in 2015 that I was asking the wrong questions, you know, I was asking for for papers and words and studies and numbers and a whole bunch of different signs, which don't get me wrong, you know driver industry forward and are incredibly valuable but I was missing the fact that it's called human movement and I think it was that human aspect that really Just kind of turned my soul on ^ AFS and you know, I got to say I've I've been humbled and honored to be invited back year after year to do what's called a play coach made program. So for those of you guys listening to gift programs of 40 week Journey, which I completed in 2015 and immediately couldn't get enough and again, you know, I appreciate the friend anecdote from earlier, but it was it was at the party Gigi. Three where I think it was over a shot of tequila Doug. I don't know if that's able to be told I'm like yo, how do I do the TCM thing and you're like cheers brother yo-yo six years later. Here we go getting ready to gear up for my sixth year going through the AFS Journey 50 years PCM or now coming into 2020 and I couldn't be more honored and humbled that the realization of just what's a kind of throws your way. How the the AFS stop process really helped me at least begin to ask better questions about the why because the what's easy you look at you. Look at how the body moves. We're just trying to figure out what's going on. And how is it working? But it's the why factor that that really just got my journey going back in 2015, and I have to say it's a it's a fueled kerosene. Essentially that just does not stop my Curious desire from burning. Well, well, first of all, thank you. Secondly, I think the listeners are like me they're probably on the edge of their seats saying, all right, keep this guy talking because he's just kind of unfolding a lot of maybe thoughts that are bouncing around in my own head or he's given me some ideas in which I can ponder and contemplate that's just going to make me better at what I do. And you know, I think it's great that you mentioned Justin Gelb and of course, he's a dear friend of both of ours and we think the world of him and he's doing amazing things and that's really kind of the the amazing thing about the Gift Community is by far our best marketing. Arm our our fellows and people say man. I see what you know, I see what you can do. I want to know that I want to do it, but I want to know it and do it in my own way. And that's really what the Journey of gift really facilitates and you know, even though we're all individuals were no different in that. We all have our own story our own Journey but our stories and Journeys are what's different and I think the more we can learn about each other story and journey the better off we're all going to be an understanding each other but also drawing parallels that are going to equal whip us to not only make our life better. But ultimately what we're getting at trying to make our patients and clients lives better. So just appreciate everything that you just stated, you know, it's going through gift in 2015 knowing was very much life-changing and I appreciate you mentioning the conversation that we had prior to that because a lot of people say Doug just give me the facts give me what the program is all about. And you know, I can talk about the facts on blue in the face, but really where the light bulbs go on is when when they That they're going through the program with like-minded individuals that they get to capitalize not only on the content, but other people's experience and expertise and it's really the community. That's the gold which is why you know, the Jason home areas of the world like to come back to play coach May where they can continue to learn but more importantly get to know the current Year's Gift Community, but also start to facilitate and teach alongside the faculty and facilitators and it's really just a win-win for everybody. So I'm gonna try to Pose another question because I think the more I can be quiet in this conversation the more you can talk the better off we all are going to be so you didn't mention quite yet your current Journey. So I would love for you to let our listeners Know Your Role within Percy dose and let us know. What is Percy dose and I'm just going to kind of give you the floor to share as much facts as you would like about that amazing company and what you guys are all up to. Yeah, absolutely. And you know you kind of brought up a really interesting thing that I think you know didn't really dawn on me until until last year and it kind of circles back into the amazing community that is the gift entity and more importantly what kind of drawers everything in as their own individual passions. Right people. People can be passionate about a bunch of things and most of the time people are passionate about many different things that not only conflict but are Going on simultaneously and it's kind of one of those things now especially kind of looking into you know, pop social psychology. If you will that, you know, the age of passion is kind of blending into the era of purpose and the beauty of what the Gift Community does the program and also just in people that are drawn to it is that you know, while the passions diverts almost that you know, inevitably there is one purpose and that purpose is a transformative purpose that everyone is in fact in it. It for other people and I think that message is it needs to be heard that regardless of what your passion is. The one purpose that I think we all share is the service and humidity humility. We have dedicated Our Lives to others and it's with that dedication to purpose and that responsibility to continue to kind of seek and refine what we know is the truth what we know is biomechanics and everything that goes into human movement and treating the mind body and spirit. You have responsibilities to need to kind of evolve and we have a responsibility to attract those that make us better that challenge us that drive us to become more kindred spirits and it's with that that actually, you know, kind of burst the journey that I'm now on which is as you mentioned a company called Percy dos which to give you guys a real quick visual. If you have an experience that it's a mat that sits on the ground and you can essentially imagine this 3D functional twister and That's usually kind of brings out the novelty and gamification. But the power comes from Gray Institute as Percy dose is powered by gray Institute. When you look at what the the Matt actually provides it's a it's a task and Target driven environment that allows for not only the application of AFS principles, but also just unlimited exercise variability and novel creativity that we know is really starting to be kind of at the Forefront of modern-day health and illness brain health training is coming big into the Limelight now, but that doesn't devalue the fact that people like to be challenged and they like to be really just given something new and creative and proceed us allows us to have the ability to create things using the visual environment using these nine different dots in these eight angulations that are on it with the logic and the power of AFS to say, hey, we know your body needs this it needs this Mobility, but you also, Want to get toned you want to get strong. So you needed 3D functional strength. Oh and by the end of the day you want to be able to react to real world stimuli? Because if we're looking at the Arc of function while sooner or later, you have to go out and function and while that concept is kind of Up For Debate and has many different definitions in the industry. We can all kind of agree that function is individually determined with tasks and targets. Like hey, I would like to pick up this glass of water there for my function has to allow me to get certain joint motions and movements with in neuromuscular controls and I have to have certain sensory inputs. This is essentially what the proceed oh smack allows us to do is create a training program that allows clients to go through that functional needs wants and goals Arc with the power of AFS. But at the same time brings it into the Limelight of the personal trainer the gym industry the cross that are the strength and conditioning coach The Athlete on the field and it looks and feels and smells like strength training, right? Well, that's that's I think is all spot on and I think you know just by what you saying is scratching the surface of really what Percy dose is all about and you know where it comes to applied functional science. You know, we're big Believers in conscious tasks and subconscious reactions and to have a piece of equipment as powerful as the Percy dose. Matt really allows those conscious tasks to be easier to facilitate even more better individualize subconscious reaction. Actions for our patients and clients and of course how we can get to that point is not just the Brilliance of the the piece of equipment but the Brilliance of course of the education behind that piece of equipment that really equips movement professionals with understanding and applying applied functional science in a very practical way is really what separates, you know, Percy dose from other organizations that might have some mats as well and it's not, you know bashing those by any means but it's validating the importance of authentic. Movement built into an infused into a great piece of equipment you've been around us long enough to know that we have a saying a grain Institute that there's a drastic difference between the imprisonment of the tool using you versus the empowerment of you using the tool and so because this tool is so beneficial the Percy dose mats. If you could explain a little bit of the education that you offer behind Percy doses. Well it kind of hone in on the 3 R's two to just demonstrate. Where the rubber meets the road on where the education is applied through the proceedings Matt. I think that would give our listeners even that much more positive until to say whom this might be something that I want to get personally. This might be something that I want to get for my patients and clients because it really just makes my job that much easier. Exactly sure, and it's kind of crap. Is that a little bit more as well? I'm fortunate enough to be the director of education for the prestigious company as well. So all the education stuff, you know thankfully to kind of fulfill my passion of wanting to teach and speak and kind of inspire those to become curious about stepping up to that responsibility. I spoke about when we when we talk about attaining more knowledge and asking the right questions to better our cage. And clients. I fortunately had a pretty good hand in in crafting when you alluded to which is essentially our programming model, right? There's a there's a lot of theories. There's a lot of principles in the industry and then the other side there's a lot of techniques that don't have principles then there's a lot of everything kind of in between. So what we're trying to do kind of at Percy dose is like you said, we're trying to get the rubber to meet the road and we're trying to give a simplified version of a very complex system. Thus the human body and we're trying to systematize function in a way that makes it repeatable and easy for the client to follow. Well the easiest for the client to follow saying is already done because the task and Target environment of Percy dose is just kind of point and shoot approach right step to this number and reach to that or jump to here or squat to hear a lunge to hear but the power really comes in when we look at the programming model that we've called are three which are three stands for ReStore. And react and if we're trying to talk about function and we're naming proceed Jose functional exercise system powered by the leaders in applied functional science gray Institute. We're basically saying that our Arc has three different components to it the first part of the component when we look at function is well, what does the body need and from the proceedings perspective? Well, the body needs mobility and stability and this is essentially what makes up. Our restore function is before you can do anything and this This Rings true to trainers as well is before we put 500 pounds on the bar and go for it because trust me I've done that before it doesn't end. Well is we got a warm-up right? We got it. We got to get the body ready. We got to make sure that everything's good to go. And while there's tons of systems for basically getting the body ready. We like to say, well we want to restore what's called normalized motion throughout the system. Now again, remembering we're trying to kind of simplify things where we took a look and we said well, what is the body need and we Get three major areas. We look at the Foot and Ankle complex. We look at the pelvis and the hips and we look at the thoracic spine which follows grants a tooth big rocks. And we basically say well we want to restore normalize motion throughout these systems, right? So we use precede us to basically warm up the body and all three planes of motion by restoring this normalized motion both the mobility component in the stability component before we do anything. So that's what we teach right out the gate. Let's restore motion then we say, okay well Well, we are treating a full client and these clients usually come to personal trainers with the goal of weight loss or strengthening or of performance enhancement or anything like that. But the one thing that we can almost guarantee every client comes to a personal trainer you have any idea what it is Doug. I'll put you on the spot. We didn't prep this answer by the way. So this is true coming from and what's the one thing that all know client wants whatsoever. They don't want pain. I don't want pain ding ding ding. There we go. They don't want pain. So it's kind of one of those unspoken but really overlooked assumptive properties that as personal trainers. There's movement practitioners, right? You know, we usually think of pain okay physical therapist, but in an effort to try and Elevate the responsibility of the health and fitness industry, we have to assume that any client who comes to us into the gold does not want to get injured and normally the way we would have combat. That is we would say don't don't do Don't do that knees over the toes back straight. Look here. Do this basically take your body which is a unique individual smattering of organic material and put it into this box. And I don't know about you. But anytime someone tries to stuff me into a box. I am not a happy camper and I'm pretty sure we have we pretty sure we have evidence to say the body's not either so I proceeded owes we try and say well if we want to reinforce functional movement patterns or functional exercise patterns, we want to give the body a logical way to 3D itself safely, but also in a way that's going to promote resilience throughout the entire system. And that's what we look to do in our second portion is where applying the principle three dimensionality to say. Okay. Well if you want to become stronger you want to become quicker you want to tone up and lose weight. You want to do it safely. What can we give your body that it once in order to not only future proof itself, but at the same time get the strength the power the toning well, That's where all of our functional exercises get 3D. So we're lunging anterior-posterior. Same opposite side lateral same opposite side rotational and we begin to apply the calf's principles another certification from the gray Institute. That is simply enough located on the platform. So if you haven't seen the platform basically everything I'm talking about in terms of observational Essentials or what makes up these foundational exercises is all written out on the platform. So again making the job simpler for the practitioner everything that you need to to learn is right there. You just have to be able to ask the right questions and create the process for reinforcing these functional exercise patterns. And then if we get to this third are we're looking at okay, well in function the body needs normalized motion. It wants to have functional resiliency in all three planes emotion. Well now what's the ultimate goal if a function is goal-directed will the ultimate goal of any person when they Look out is to maintain the the freeness of injury and obviously apply what they've learned in the gym. So we're basically saying, okay. Well, this is where we get to have some fun. Not only with the body but with the mind because most people nowadays, I believe, you know are kind of thinking about this three point three pound Mass. It's in the in the head. It's called the brain and brain health is becoming one of those hot topics and the fitness world because we're seeing Rises of Alzheimer's dementia depression anxiety all of these cognitive neurogenesis. Gives diseases and we're noticing that exercise can have a positive impact. Nothing. Nothing new. The cool part is we're beginning to learn that with specific adaptations and interventions of certain cognitive processes. We can begin to potentially manipulate the decrease in cognitive decline as new and new as more and more research comes out and this is all based off selective attention type of training and basically what that means is if I'm looking at a proceed owes Matt, I got a Two numbers. I got a bunch of lines. I have to be laser focused in order to accomplish the goal. Yes. I'm creating a conscious tasks. Like I'm lunging to a certain number but I'm getting this powerful subconscious reaction through my body, which we know essentially is function. So our third and final our programming models, how do we create games novelty cognitive derive an exercise that not only allows the brain to improve but also once again kind of locks in that very critical piece of functionality. Auction where we are using conscious task to create subconscious reaction while engaging the client and new and novel experiences giving their brain a little bit of food and therefore kind of completing that art of needs once goals, which is restoring reinforcing and reacting to the Percy dose workout programming. Wow. Well, that's there's a lot packed into that little explanation that you provided which I think is going to give myself as well as our listeners a lot to think about but you kind of just you know, hit it hit it head on On that, you know, maybe pun intended there but that we are truly mind body and we're also spirit and when you think about the mind and the body when it comes to exercise, you know movement is one of those amazing things that people can benefit greatly for not only their minds but also their bodies, but it's kind of what you hinted at at the beginning of this segment and its really kind of that emotional or spiritual side or the outcome of the environment that's being created. That's not only do we as individuals that want pain which I'm glad I got that answer correct, but we also don't want to Fail and we don't want to be put at risk in which we may fail and what's amazing is that with applied functional science and with Percy dose that we're able to use some tasks and targets to meet an individual or he or she is at to empower them so that they don't fail but they're successful in the process, but what's great about it is it's it's that root word of functional and it's fun the entire way in the entire time. So it's got the best of everything when it comes to a plaid functional science. Which really of course is why we wanted to put our name on it because of course of the the infusion behind it. But more importantly that you know, we believe in you we believe in the people that of course that are pushing it forward and we are just more importantly honored to be a part of this process with you. And so if you haven't checked out proceed, oh, so I definitely encourage our listeners to do just that of course, they can look at it on our landing page through grainy Institute.com. But where else can our listeners learn more about Percy dose and the mats and the education and the other things that you guys Eyes have in the works. Absolutely. So I mean I think in this socially connected World social media is kind of our first go to at this point right Percy toast has a social media Instagram Facebook very very active on there where you can see people all around the world using the product and its really interesting to see once again people have many different passions and styles of training but Percy dose is becoming one of those uniting things that allows us to direct our purpose in the industry and We're currently in 22 different countries right now. So I'm checking out the procedures Instagram. Yeah, it's going to show you people from all over the world and how they kind of applied and you're going to look at and say wow. They kind of look like me kind of doing the same things. Well, yeah because all of our bodies move in certain, you know certain ways, but it's a great place to also see inspiration and begin to kind of pick that that Curiosity a little bit to say. Hey, I wonder why they're doing that and I wonder if I do it what it will feel like and then if I wonder if I look up top and I see See these different words and I change one of them. What's it going to do? So definitely the procedures to Instagram for sure. Second place is we do have a website which is a constantly evolving content Center where you can check out our education's where there's some training programs that are being put up. We have our lives eight our course, which is basically what we talked about where we really dive deep into the R3 programming model and we kind of coin this Mantra learning by doing so A very experientially based Workshop that allows you to dive deeper into the applications that precede us all that information. Is it www.prestigemitsubishi.com? And those are those are our main two options now, but of course no with are powered by gray Institute like Doug said, it's on Grace to.com, and I'm just by the focus of this podcast Percy dose is starting to Branch out into more podcast areas as well. We were just recently featured on a chase your better podcast is As well so you can kind of hear some more information conversation about how the proceed owes product is slowly but very, you know rapidly making its way into the United States as it is a Swedish product. So we're we're still kind of at the at the the new edge of a Uncharted Horizon here. So we're really excited to see what the map looks like. We're ready to deal with the bumps in the road. But most importantly we're ready to just keep kind of pushing the progress forward. Well gray while I appreciate all that. I also you mentioned that it's a Swedish project a product. And of course company that's branching. Of course globally, which is very exciting and I just want to give props and kudos to Yen's of course who is spearheading that process on the proceed? Oh side as you know, we're just blessed to be partnered with him and look forward to the growth of not only Percy dose. But more importantly the impact that precede us can hack continue to have without only the movement professionals. But of course also, the the further end users and our and the patients and clients. Clients and the athletes and the individuals that get to have fun on that mat in a very structured methodical and inspirational way and so as we kind of come to a close here Jason, what I want to do is I'm going to put you on the spot you kind of know it's coming but the put you on the spot by in 45 seconds or less you have to equip me as well as our amazing listeners with just one of the biggest Pearls of Applied functional science that you can share to continue. To empower our minds and to ultimately lead to some sort of application that we can put into practice go. All right. So if you haven't figured it out already and you don't know me from the past the biggest thing the biggest why that applied functional science has helped me kind of understand and and bring out is just the ability to remain open-minded and realize that what's in front of us is in front of us, but it's all about treating that mind-body-spirit the try docks and realizing that most importantly it's that Curiosity. It's that continued insatiable desire to A dry forward and remember that the people that are in front of you that you're serving are the whole reason the whole purpose and your why behind the what? Okay. Well you nailed that. I didn't expect anything different, but very succinctly done, but that's one of those things that I think is going to just continue to resonate in all of our minds that we definitely want to keep that person in mind. In fact, one of my buddies. He's our executive director of our nonprofit free to play. He's got a phrase and he would say that'll preach and so that'll definitely preach and continue to inspire. So Jason on behalf of myself on behalf of Grants to you on behalf of our listeners. I just want to take this opportunity to thank you. Your time. I know you are a busy busy. Bee you're traveling all the time, but the fact that you would block out such a significant time to capture this podcast so that we can release it to the world is very humbling and appreciated on this and I really just appreciate you as a person and as a professional as a colleague and just the way that you go about your day to try to learn more to inspire more so very humbly from the grace to decide we want to thank you. Well, it's right back at you Dougie. I can't I can't go ahead and top that. We're definitely going to leave those words Bounce Around in people's head. But from my side as well. Appreciate you appreciate the gray Institute. Everything is done from my life and really can't wait to see what we as a community are capable of doing well. I appreciated Jason and not thank you listeners for sticking through this, which is very easy to do when you have a guy like Jason talking. So appreciate your words Jason appreciate your inspiration and wish you well. Thanks so much. Thank you. Our second question again comes from Matthew Haley in r24 series here. And this is on one hand kind of a simpler question. But on the other hand kind of has some depth to it in 3D maps. Is it appropriate to perform the analysis and mobility and stability separately and come up with a RSC which means relative success code for each. Each or is the RSC only valid when combined into most stability. Well, first of all Matthew you have a very good understanding of 3D maps. I can tell that you're certified in 3D maps you've used it you've gone through it and you've helped a lot of people by understanding how their body moves for those of us who are haven't been introduced to 3D maps 3D maps is the most authentic human movement screen because it looks at all 66 Motions that make up all the vital human movements of the body and these represent the three planes of motion of all the major joints that influence other joints, and we're able to do it with just six basic movements of mobility and six movements of stability. So as you learn those movements where the first movement the anterior chain looks at our trunk and our hips and our legs and our shoulders through what we'd call a lot of action and the second movement the posterior chain looking at a lot of flexion going on and then the same side ladder and opposite side ladder looking at both sides of the frontal plane change and of course the all-important transfers plane change going same side rotational opposite side rotational. We learn in 3D maps that you come up with a relative success code. So it's not a relative failure code. It's not what you can't you do it's what you can do and that's based on. On the biomechanical understanding of the rule of 3 D and that is if you influence one plane of motion, you automatically influence the other two therefore we can to take advantage of that by saying if you are really good in this particular chain and not so good in that chain, the relative success code will start with success and by going through the right progressions that are outlined in the certification automatically the change that you weren't so good. In mysteriously not so mysterious. It's all biomechanics. It's not magic get better and that's because every movement is three-dimensional movement, but if we start with success and go to less success than we have this ability to get to where we want to go very quickly through all three planes of motion and through the neuromusculoskeletal system as we talked about again up in our first question in scoliosis. Now the question was do I need to Aggregate the mobility and stability or can I do them separately? Well, brutally, I love the idea of separate. So if I just went through the six mobilities, I could come up with a relative success code and then go to work start with the most successful and then work my way the least successful with the performance system and you would get dramatic Improvement in your patients and clients. I could also do just stability I could say, okay. I appreciate what Mobility is, but when I take away See I demand stability out of the body. Then that's this is going to be a way that I can use a relative success code for just the stability aspect. Now the certification teaches that we many times to get an overview of the patient and client. We combine the two so we combined the mobility and stability and what's what Matthew properly cause most ability and come up with a relative success code for that. Now what's even more exciting that As I can even take just a couple of the mobilities. Let's say I want to do the anterior chain same side lateral the same side rotational just those three and I can come up with a relative success code just with those three Mobility movements. I can do the same thing with any of the stability movements. I might say well just for I'm going to really look at what that post your hips doing. So I'm going to go my posterior chain stability. I'm going to go my opposite side lateral change stability, and I'm going to go my opposite side. Rotational stability because that really turns on the posterior lateral glute muscles and will give me a great idea what they're able to do in all three planes of motion. I can come up with a relative success code saying well your best one was the frontal plane opposite side lateral. Your next best was to transfers plane upside rotational and your lease best was your posterior chain, and I've go to work and I'd start with my most successful my frontal plane and just Working on the frontal plane and then going to the transfers plane immediately when we go to the sagittal plane that posterior chain. We all of a sudden see that. Wow, that one got better and we didn't even work on that one. That's because that was the least successful in this example, but because of the law of 3D that all of a sudden us taking the successful change create success in the other change, even if I take 3 in this case stabilities the other exciting thing about the relative success. SS code is I can use it for any of the performance systems. So as you know, Matthew all the performance systems have a performance system relative to the planes of motion or to the chains of motion that I can use. So for example, I might say I'm going to do Mobility pivots and I'm going to go sagittal plane pivots frontal plane pivots and transfers playing pivots. So I take somebody through Mobility sagittal plane pivot, so I'm doing my anterior lunge with my bilateral. Roll posters overhead arm swing then I take my foot back in my post your lunch and I take my hands down and back with my bilateral hand post your ankle arm swing and I go back and forth and mobility and I say, okay. I see what I got there with the right foot being a driver. I then do the left foot as a driver. Then I go to my frontal plane pivots where I go same side lateral top side Lateral with the proper hand motions that facilitate the reaction we want and then I do my transfers plane and I quickly Quickly see that. Wow, I can do a relative success code with my Pivot Matrix with 3D maps. And in this case, let's say my transfers plane was the best and then my sagittal plane was the next best and then my frontal plane was the least best. Well again, we start with that transfers plane and start tweaking that as the performance series will show us and immediately going through the transverse plane creating different tweaks create a better frontal plane pivot and then a better sagittal plane pivot, so It's getting to where we want to go a lot quicker and using the science of biomechanics and the magic and the biomechanical magic of the rule of 3D in order to get there. So I can use any of my performance movements and develop a relative success code again. I don't have to use all six I can pair it down to a couple at a time to really give me an idea where I want to go and how I want to get there. So incredible question Matthew, I really I want to share my admiration of you just from your two brilliant questions and just thank you for taking the time to reach out to us and asking them asking us to questions and give us an opportunity to share with you our thoughts and ideas and hopefully it stimulates more thoughts and ideas. Not only from you Matthew, but from many of our other listeners with this podcast. Once again, this is the greatest to podcast. This is Gary gray sharing with you hoping and trusting and literally praying that you all have a credible Thanksgiving season and that you just take just a pinch of time to sit back and have a big grin on your face and a big grin in your mind and a big grin on your heart with all the things that we've been blessed with and just the opportunity and privilege that others give us To share what's in our minds which in our hands what's in our hearts with others to enhance their ability to move and ultimately enhance their quality of life and in class and enhance their ability just to thoroughly enjoy life in the bless others. So continue to bless each other continue to uplift each other continue to encourage each other and keep the questions coming. We really appreciate them. Thanks so much. This is Barb. Thanks for joining us here on the great Institute. Just at Great Institute. Our goal is to do one thing the best we can and that is to help you become the go-to movement professional. 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December 2019 Gray Institute Podcast Show Notes Gary Gray discusses  a question from Matthew Haley in regards to  performing exercises with a pt/client with scoliosis. Do you encourage movement mainly in the pattern that goes opposite the curve to encourage new pattern and neuromuscular control and avoid moving in the already dysfunctional pattern, or is there some value in moving in old pattern (into the curve so to speak) in all 3 planes to encourage good mobility even in that pattern? Doug Gray chats continuing education with Jason Hamera. Jason Hamera graduated the GIFT program in 2015 and has since been involved in the PlayCoachMate Program within GIFT, Being in the fitness industry for 12 years, Jason has developed a passion for effective communion and teaching, which he fulfills via his role of Director of Education for Procedos. From training private clients, creating fitness curriculums, and leading international workshops, Jason strives to spark curious desire to learn in all those he meets as he refines his life’s purpose: Enhancing and inspiring the lives of others! Gary Gray answers this  question. In 3D Maps is it appropriate to perform the analysis in Mobility and Stability separately and come up with RSC for each or is the RSC only valid when combined into Mostability? 