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There? It is. Welcome one and all everybody's welcome here at The Challenge season 34 the Royal Rumble episode 9 on War of the Worlds to my name is Daniel Lindgren AKA. I'm not even going to say because you know who I am. Let's move on to my house over here Disney Jan. I said it. Anyways, we have a man here that drinks more water than a whale show me the water bottle you guys name is Benny Jay Adams team. H2O, what is this him? I drink that much water in a week. Wow. Amazing. Say hi to everyone. So guys, how's it going excited as usual to be here for another episode. Can't wait to talk about it. I am excited as well. Next on my list. I've got the birthday girl in town. It's basically her birthday week. She went away to Palm Springs. She's looking just beautiful tonight. Happy birthday. Wow. Thanks chick talked his need an ally. Mix them all together. Hey everybody. Oh my gosh, so I have to say that already looking at the live. I'll be on the live already checking it out. I'm not going to get there ahead of the game already feel I want people are saying so fantastic. We'll be there talking about that soon with you, but I'm on team live chat. I most agree with most of what everyone's saying. Alright and last but not least a man who works out every day. But tonight he's working out those vocal cords David. What up? Well, what's going on guys how we doing? There's so much to Like about I'm really exhausted. Yep. That's not good. All right, what you know, we have so much talk about guys tonight the episode that I thought was about to end then has like additional scenes to talk about if we have time we will be taking your calls for 2 4 3 5 4 8 3 0 2 if we get to you we were hoping to but first guys overall thoughts so much to talk about here solid episode. It was good super solid for me. Yeah, especially towards the end. It was really good. You know, it's bad when you thought it. Was ending the more drama was coming. So I liked it great Pam how many blouse Pam growls? My just overalls were that? I love Ashley. I'm so happy having her away from I know I know we'll just having her not with the lavender ladies is awesome camera wife ever team Kam Li I am so excited to see those two getting along again and Can't wait to get into all this you high drama. Give us so many hot takes that we're all going to have to either agree or disagree with but David. What do you got? Ah, I mean you guys you guys sit out. This episode was crazy. I feel like we watched the director's cut version of it because it just like kept going like it looks like it's not over yet. But there's so many different aspects that I loved about it. Like the whole turbo thing was hilarious. That was amazing. The whole truck thing. I to me was funny, especially with the girls have like, oh, I'm so sorry differences between men. Yeah, there is a I think a good variety you can make some this whole episode and it just it was entertaining. Oh, yeah. Sure. I've got two conspiracies tonight that we'll get to when we when we get out and I also want a fan conspiracy because someone wrote something very interesting on the YouTube feed from last week and I loved it and I enjoy a good conspiracy. So I will be sharing it with you guys later across to that person. You'll get a shout out in a little bit. Let's start with our vignette portion of the evening guys in the British guys. They get a meeting going and they start talking. About hey, you know even though it's just me Theo Jenny and Georgia versus all of you. We should really work as a team that feel starts this whole meeting. He ruins my dream of like the breaking that everybody up because he's trying to get this team to stay together, right? So what do you guys think of the Brits having that meeting because they are so divided just like everyone in this game is doesn't matter really that's what I'm saying is really matter. No, so I mean and as you saw the end of the episode, I mean everybody's out for themselves at the end of the day, they're just using each other, of course to get to the next step none of this really matters. Yeah, it doesn't matter for them because they never win so we can't tell if they would turn against themselves. We it doesn't even know it would matter. I think that it makes sense for Georgia and Theo who have proved themselves time and time again in The Proving Ground for them to say look. I'm not going to keep coming in and playing for a team that keeps throwing me in I get their take on it. You know, it's not like Kaylee who I like and everything, but I'm not trying to throw shade at her but it's not like she's seen an elimination or done anything. So, I don't know why the other Alliance other than Johson Rogan and D who are strong would want to go against not work with Theo Jenny and Georgia as far as a host. I think they're just trying to do whatever possible in order to win because they see they are a terrible team together. So anything that they can muster ER up they're gonna try and do unfortunately, they're learning the they're taking the bad page from the Americans Playbook of last year how they came in with all their baggage and we're a divided team and now the UK has their own baggage and they're doing the same thing. Yeah bummer which is so weird because they are a stacked team. Like there are almost every single person on there is is a good competitor. So I just don't get it. They mean a lot These challenges they could have gone either way, you know, so the Brits could have had a couple couple victories at least on their side and maybe there wouldn't be so much like we're awful in the u.s. Is the best especially with one tonight and we'll get to it later. It was very very close. Let's go into our the next portion of our vignette which is apparently a wrestling scene and Jordan Polly grabs Jordans junk at one point. We proved the producer student see that know, the producers are setting up here Jordan and Carmer hitting each other. That's all that but this was but we know that at the time really for later on any thoughts on this wrestling stuff. I thought it was I thought that cute oratory and car were kind of cute because I had seen teasers of that making it look like they would like want to fight me, you know a whole thing and they were actually having a friendly wrestling. I think that they get along too. Well except for they get along ish and I like that relationship and I kind of like hot Also Jordan and Polly's relationships along to who stole my take I do I think if it weren't for the girls that they would definitely get together and the end cool girls. It's Jordan and comfortable. That's I meant well with the girls they have it carved Holly's car. So Jordan can't hide from the like Polly fully and I feel the same with Cara and Tori. I feel like they I mean it look like they're kind of bonding to having fun with the wrestling thing. I almost feel like without each other significant other they might actually might actually get along. Yeah. Well Paulie said it best, you know, if they could just squash their differences, they could be like two very powerful probably definitely want some to squash so he can stop being in the middle of this whatever they'll say Jordan and I respect Polly's respective Jordan a good that makes sense like that. I do. All right. All right Pam your favorite topic. Here we go. Okay camera I back in Action you start what are your thoughts on that? I love it. I love it. #well, I didn't know that it was coming. I try not to have a spoilers especially what my favorite part the drama so I didn't know that that was coming and like Leroy, I'm surprised and didn't see it happening and couldn't be happier. They seem they seem to have a really from what we see. I feel like they have a really cute really real connection. They seem not saying they're in love and they're going to be together forever, but the way they joke with each other. ER is so cute and fun and I'm also loving just the way we're getting to see other people come out of their shell and different ways leave right not being bananas right hand man. Yeah. We're getting to see so much more of his personality and he's funny like, you know, everyone's always like Leroy is the best Leroy. He's the best and we don't really get to see it why everyone loves him so much. He always seems likable and nice, but now he's like uniting the team the way he flirts with Cam and jokes with her I think is really And cute and I think those two those two have something I'm here. I'm on board. He just seems like an all-around good guy. And I feel like that's what can meet. Ya all-around good guy and cam is the same goes for cam. She seems like an all-around good girl. So I think like they're perfect. Actually I like the way you know CT just broke it down at the I feel like yeah, but I like Leroy and I like ham so I like them together I say yes. Yes, I hope it works out but I like them both. So the big question though guys is did Leroy last more than 10 seconds because Kim's coming out. I don't know. Isn't she gonna drink a shit ton of water? If you're going to be running outside in the heat that they have their lives? Yes, and he's got water. I mean, obviously we didn't see a lot of what they're doing. We just saw Clips, but apparently, I mean I knew right away what it was just the heat exhaustion just obviously being dehydrated. That sucks that feelings got to be horrible. But yeah, you know just slap a few IVs and you'll be good. You'll be ready to go. Yeah, people always say like drink water and I'm always like I guess that would help but love come on. Absolutely. I'm drinking water. Yeah, if you're doing all that training like know right - yeah, and in that heat, yeah, it's just I've all right. Let's get to let's get to the challenge of the day, which is called Under Siege. You got a 60 foot container. It's going back and forth. There's puzzle pieces inside. You gotta get them on your side. Stick it on to that. Wonderful look like a BB honeycomb almost to me. I thought of honeycomb cereal. Yeah. Okay great awesome and the ground is covered in chalk. Which is we need which is not good makes it extra extra slippy slippy a house. Like this would be not slippery slippy slippy. Yes. Okay. So I love this challenge. I thought it was super fun. I wanted to be there so bad quick quick question. Do you think that those are a balls that they put in there, you know how they test it before hand. Yes. We tested it without the app balls. They were like, we need something in here. Everyone's got destroyed as they had but what I just thought like a balls I have anything that could have used they With AB balls, which are obviously nice and cushiony lesser cushions couch cushions. I'll try to think of other finally phonebloks not thrown in there. The challenge was fun. I didn't understand why it was so hard, but I guess it's because of the time that they actually were able to see the level. And put it. Yeah, and then you're either falling forward or something over on you. And by the way, there were 15 minutes to complete it. So that's a pretty good amount of time. It's not like they were given like five. Yeah, it's in there not struggling. It is the honeycomb structure. I was trying to think is the honeycomb structures hard to put together the boys. I don't even know the map on the side existed until a girl's mad because the boys like I'm gonna throw the girls actually notice the thing so I was like, well, maybe they'll actually get it then because they're looking at M. Yeah what the final puzzle supposed to look like far as the is love the contrast between the two of a guy just full testosterone and just bounce into each other. You know, one point who was a giass it throws a ball at turbo. Yeah, then you get the girls and they're just like, oh, I'm so sorry. I don't want to tell ya likely help you out which briefly the first conspiracy of the evening with Joss throwing a ball anybody get it besides me what? Hello Doris The Producers like Josh. Yes story on my god. Listen. Bo hello, we know turbos passing up a story like just in the producers nice work tonight, but I figured it out so far. What is Josh personality trait? So Jost that under under we're throwing a ball and what else he had as he said how does making big moves wearing UK under wearing throwing balls that Rascal that would be his kids intro package for next time. Good job. Just doing great. Love you anyway. Stressed out because I couldn't have done it and I completely I simply saw it sympathize with them as to why they couldn't do it. Yeah, it looked hard. I mean I would be scared as hell see you in CT flying at me and at 30 degree angle. I'm like no, I'm gonna I'm good. This is what I'm gonna hang out you just hanging out in there. I'm Jordan. Yeah Joe. I mean, yeah. Jordan said, he's like you have grown men flying and not Gary. Yeah, no good. No good can come from that. I had more thought. So what? When the girls went in for their first turn how smelly was it in there from the boys a closed container? No be Windows no circulation and they were dressed like the girl said disgusting. The girls was I matter how long they are that thing out for it between takes there but I bet it was great. Like what's in the best? Probably not enough. It's like the only moment I liked from you know, not my favorite Josh not Josh was do we do that? I liked his yeah. That was funny. Right? I had no idea. That thing was and then Josh had a great you're right. Yeah, it was funny. Let me think. Okay. So look at the guys had to go to sudden death because the guys can't figure out the girls couldn't get its the guys had to go back in there and TJ put up 50 percent done for them. Now. Let me throw this final conspiracy at you as far as my conspiracies for the evening. It looked like it started like it start off whatever and then it went automatically to the US side first so they got to look at it first. As far as for the 50% on the u.s. At least that's what I was seeing when I was watching it. So in theory, I'm like aren't they getting a one up on how to solve this? Like when there was nothing on the thing I get it you're just trying to put pieces up there but it's 50% done already. You actually see what it's almost done and then all they had to do when it fell to them is just finish those couple pieces and then it went to the Brit side for their first time and they couldn't and then the u.s. Got a second try and they got to go set. You got it first look at the second time. So I just don't then u.s. Barely. One to a barely beat them. Why are the producers want the u.s. I'm not I'm not saying there is a producer's I'm just saying to me it's conspiracy like the big the u.s. Just got a better chance. I'm not saying the preachers want them to way because I don't see why the hell they would think that the US should win another one. I'm just saying that it seemed unfair. It seemed like a u.s. Advantage. That's all I'm saying. I'm not saying the producers want to do us to win. I mean Mommy, I don't know we're gonna have yeah, we can look into that. I feel like maybe it was flat and gave them a little level thing and then went there quickly and then when I mean who Was I mean it's definitely an advantage, you know, it's that's why I thought it's an adventure us if I'm if I'm wrong that I want Pam got very mad. This is a this is what we were watching Pam got very mad at Josh when he tried to give the girl some advice now mind you job. The girls said guys, is there any advice for us and Polly says first, you know, let one person speaking solve it and then Josh comes out and says, you know, you should take care of it. You should take care of his he thinks they're better at puzzles and Pam gets very mad at Josh. And Nepali, I'm very confused him. What is this hatred you have for jars. Well, I thought Polly was CT saying that I thought that was simply the weight. It was a or CT they get mad that's good advice for suggesting to his teammates. I feel like you'd be good at this and you because you guys should focus on it because he's so mad at Josh. I love that. Josh is was here by default for one season and now it's my God. She knows everyone's strengths and weaknesses and he's the expert advice giver you're good at this your history. Pam you can redeem yourself. Now we got we got cam roid part do thoughts a showman been together for a very long time. What do you think of the bedroom scene? They say they were there forever. Just hanging out. I like to Leroy's move like I was like this and then he's made the joke. She was like, why are you being so nice to me tonight? He was like some morning. I think it's funny with her. They weren't there's a lot of cute kisses happening in that and that bottom bunk. Well, they talk to each other the way like it makes me. We get e watch oh my God talk to each other the way, you know when you're like, oh my God, I can't I like this person so much and they like me too and you're like honestly like I know you might hate this room is how I am with bear and Georgia. I love watching it. I think they really I just love watching it. Well, right but he is understandable person. So it takes a little bit knowing that but the joy away but they're flirting with each other. I do think is really cute with Georgia though. I think it's so sincere with him. I think that's he just turns it on with anything. Even though I think cam Leroy really bring it out of each other. So it's a little more Kim and Leroy needs to be like the next power couple. I think so interesting. Yeah, you got a couple words for the audience at home. Thank you guys for making us the ESPN a TV talk and in order for us to grow we need your help. So if you're on YouTube right now, go ahead and give us a thumbs up if you were on iTunes go ahead and give us A five-star we're going to AfterBuzz means so much to us and we just want to continue to learn and grow and give you guys amazing. Good content Pam. How's it looking - it's looking really good and forgive me. If I'm saying your name wrong Schoenherr Shawn are Smith is says thank you. Shauna Smith. I hate Josh. He was the star of calls and problems this season. The leader of the tribunal again. I don't like how they're doing this at all this season because I think the producers are like, oh, we don't really have a good reason why they're picking people. Let's just tell them that they pick that person and move on with it like they need to do something. What that is so boring what it's there should be more drama and gossip why someone wants or does not want to get it. But now that we know that they're going to pick the other team. It really doesn't matter in theory who the tribunal is they just have to go to extra little ceremony and sit there for 30 minutes. So it's ends up being Josh and he chooses Leroy Ninja for what reason we don't know and don't care moving on. Okay, and then I'll be get the tribunal and he just gets thrown right in there David. I'm making me laugh over there and I don't know you just you're a rookie go in Rogan's got the alliance so he could possibly go in but he can't because you got the alliance. So you just you're up you dress place going to pick not that someone said and we're seeing that more now because of what we saw but yes can't swim can't do puzzles. It's trick right there. Things are valid at this point someone. I don't remember who but someone said even his Alliance can't save him like he's that bad. He's not he's not he's good. Obviously, he's strong. Obviously, there's things he's good at he's probably a fierce athlete, but you have to be well-rounded and know how to do stupid. Parlor tricks sometimes and he's not but he took it really well though unlike other people on that team and the past he took it very well. He was like, you know what it's messed up but fine I'm going but who's he gonna get mad at them rise? So there's so few people left in this game. He really has two real. He knows that he is up. I just I know that No One's Gonna. I didn't trust him. I didn't realize he was as bad as he was he actually like they do these actually were valid points that I brought up like. Oh, you're right. Yeah. I mean, we kind of noticed like that he got tired real quick and we were confused about it because the boxer so he doesn't have maybe doesn't have the endurance. We know he can't swim because we did see that so many Challenge and we didn't know how we doing puzzles. And this was his first big puzzle so we can give them a little bit of like, okay was your first one it's okay, but he literally lost all concentration could not focus even get any of it done. So even when they were telling him so he couldn't find out what they were saying get the L shaped block and he was looking at the yeah barbecue block. I'm like dude. That's how that an l and I understand when you are stressed. The adrenaline and scary dream. I got something you might build up over time competing like this like an ability to compete in that sort of format. Also, we knew he was going to be bad at puzzles because he disappeared during today's challenge was for as a puzzle. I thought he would break through the wall first. At least I gave him that I thought physically he might have more Shear strength. I mean, that was my normal weight and he's also got that long body to get that pressure through his long. Those long legs. I mean, they're hard to get buff because they're so like that's why issue I have is they're so damn tall. So what's his face Idris is called. It's just show more compact compact exactly to get through as well. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of there's a lot of romance on the show tonight guys, by the way, especially between two people feel and Polly. They basically made out. Yeah, unless you had more about the because we're not gonna get to that. We're going to get to the elimination later saying that the sure that he just was upset and bye. T and I get it to go and I'll throw that in he did say to CTU like a father to me because they they work under guidance together. They didn't really have a side. So I think he just thought more of seat. He's with me but really see teachers like I'm gonna float wherever I can until I get to the end Deidre. Sorry. Sorry bud and I felt bad for interest. I did. I want to clear that up. I felt like he wasn't expecting that and I feel bad idea to I don't know why CT lay it on so thick the whole that it was he called him Ted Bundy like with the creepy eyes and said Anytime behind his pillow like CT. He just an everyday thing. He was like an act during the show so you can then make fun of him behind his back. Like he just got called up and I don't know why you were talking to him snack I did because I didn't want the point. I know what is the comment that you just made how I felt betrayed and then maybe it was the guilt to see T. It was his conscience. Maybe you know, I mean kind of playing out because he didn't make me feel bad about it because they kind of were an alliance a little bit, you know, so that we know way I think give it a couple of Seasons. I think a jury's going to be a PC can G. It's always like this with the rookies rookies. Never do that. Well when it's won their first challenge, then they come back for Second third fourth. Yeah. Yeah kill it like no other agreed that he can get savvier and be a force to be reckoned with in the future now, he's definitely harder for rookies because they're gonna get so many more often and that that and you know and eliminations anything goes you the chance of coming back a 50-50 very slim. This is about turning point though. Now, we're at the halfway a little over halfway where it starts all the people that have sort of coasted along and they're gonna start getting. Yeah. He made it pretty far. So cool. A lot of people that are that I would say are better competitors than him. So yeah, I mean there's nothing keeping Sam the first week. So that was great. Yeah. You also know who's also made it this far. No, you know, who's also still made it this far though him Josh. Let's get back to the romance of Theo and Holly. I have a summary actually wrote down a Of their fight if you guys want to hear it. Okay. It's a three-parter here feel started it they kiss the end. It happened Georgia. How funny was Georgia was like, I think it's wrong of security Ashley was like saying ever like was my spirit animal this episode. She was so fun. And Georgia wanted to keep this is really weird. Is the producers of made it so like if you even touch someone else you're going to get kicked out, they'll the producers are causing men to kiss when they're texting the straight on the challenge. Thank you producers. This is great as a as a side note to side Notes One. My new team cringe is not Polly and Cara, it's Polly and Theo that's your wine are just we need like memes and Gifts of that with his white wine, like he just started off. So so Debonair you noticed it in order for Theo to actually have Personality or a storyline he's got to be drinking. So I'm surprised the producers aren't giving him more drinks and that drinks and we're drinking I never gets to fight for me. It's especially here that I really you. Don't really hear much about it. Besides killing it on elimination. Yeah, I don't really hear much from Theo throughout these episodes. So he got his storyline you guys is it do you guys have sides for the skull for them? Okay, I feel bad for Theo that they voted that car who he feels is an ally voted him. And I feel like that's a sucky feeling beyond that last last May to the okay emanation that's got to feel jerky. And I always thought him in poly were cool. So I guess that was just because he was Cara's partner last season and then finally I love there's things I love about Holly and Cara but I have to say the whole my boyfriend. So you're my enemy is weird. I get that there. but it's like but you we know that we can be partners with someone one season and then you could be mortal enemies with them next week on the stories and Tory wouldn't say Saqqara, for instance. Oh you and Jordan have beef. Therefore. You're my enemy or to Turbo. I mean, nope. That's so immature. It just makes me feel like come on guys. I'm just torn with both of these guys because yeah Theo did start it. Yes, but Polly always falls for the bay and he grunts. Oh man, you just always feels like he has to like prove him. Right? So I'll say this Theo started it's technically Theo's fault, but you know finished it Polly finished it when he shouldn't just walk like the who cares. Saying he's talking smack to you saying I don't what was what do you feel says he's working. I think we working out drop that low blow though, which is really what set Polly off. What was it all about caught, you know Kyle hooking up with Raya. So I mean I was like the wall blow and that's what really I think set Polly. I mean, I don't know I think poly ya ya. I hate taking their side but like someone I'm going to verbally say something what I'm just gonna walk away right now. I can't walk away from alcohol. And I know is in there because I'm an idiot guys. I'm an idiot. I'm an idiot box boy on Tick-Tock. Here we go. Keep plug I just messing around but I really am. All right, let's move on. So yeah, they kiss anyone in your thoughts on that fight before we went. It wasn't really a fight little overly heated. It's like, all right, buddy. He could have left that off. I still liked the wood that he kissed him. I loved everybody else's reactions a million times more it was her car on his fights I've ever seen. Let's get let's get to the biggest waste of a scene that I've ever. Ever seen in my life on the challenge. So thank you producers don't think I just hate on the challengers. I'm hating on the producers tonight. You guys show a scene of Jordan talking to Zach telling himself that he wants to jump on you he wants to go again cedrus and then jump on the other side and be the first turncoat of the Season none of that needed to be in there. I understand you're trying to you know, get some more drama because it was kind of boring we knew it was either going to be Joss or feel basically going down there. So you got me it made me upset. It was such a waste. I was you you felt your Here because if you're going to throw something into that so juicy like that don't you want to at least kind of happened don't you want your until he's raised his hand on this. Whoa. Whoa teej wait a minute. I think I might need to go in and then not go in maybe at least do something with it. Well don't like that one. That was just a stir the pot. I know beside it wasn't even hold on. But to we don't know if that's going to happen in future episodes that can still happen. And as we see not against each other as we see I know but we've seen Jordan and Polly still have that Feud going on, you know what I mean? Still that reverie there so that can still potentially happen. It's just such a it's a very smart move on paper but it's a very risky / stupid move if you actually do it because it's not 100% Sure Jordan has a degree, but why are we even talking about it? Because it never technically even happened. He was just it was just people talking about it. I'm hoping for the sake of the producers that it was some sort of foreshadowing that will come into play at some point agreed. Ever on that plan and all their alliances. I have to say they're all kind of stupid because we don't know and they don't know what the move is going to be next. Like they're playing it that it's going to turn into some sort of, you know, individual game or combined and not teams and we don't know if that's true. The other is not so stupid is because a there's no guaranteeing you. Never know anything be his plan was for him and Tory to go into elimination win join the other team the other team. It's like so many variables but something like three episodes ahead know, they keep it to episode. Whatever. I don't remember anything like that far ahead. What if Corey what about next week's a girl elimination. So what if Tory goes in and then they all week Dennis Jordan and then fair enough if that actually goes down. I really don't think that Tori's gonna do that for you. Nominating herself to go in I can't Jordan doing is what a bad move. It's like that time that Jordan volunteered himself against bananas, but he won right? No bananas. That's why you think Jordan wants to do that twice. No, however, maybe the foreshadow because it all was that Jordan does rub people the wrong way and make boneheaded Lee aggressive move sometimes so maybe they put that In to remind us of that that Jordan sometimes lets his ego. Get the best of him. I'm not sure. Yeah. All right. Let's get to this point. Let's get to The Proving Ground and it's called Break Free. They got to swing from pedestal breakthrough wall and then solve a puzzle. Theo destroyed him Theo's killing it. I got to give him props where props are due. Uh, he's doing his thing on eliminations and all he has no, I don't know the argument against it because he's winning every time and buy a nice margin, so and I thought my thoughts were Boring before we continue one of the ways we keep all these shows for you free is by our amazing sponsors. And today Spotify is one of our sponsors on Spotify. You can listen to all of your favorite artists and podcasts in one place for free. You don't even need a premium account Spotify is a huge catalogue of podcasts on every topic including the one you're listening to right now on Spotify. You can follow your favorite podcast. So you don't miss an episode premium users can even download episodes to listen to offline wherever they are and you can easily share what you're listening to with all your friends. Ends and following on Instagram. You haven't done so already be sure to download the Spotify app and search for AfterBuzz TV on Spotify or browse podcasts in the your library tab. Also, make sure you follow us you never miss an episode of AfterBuzz TV. I mean, yeah. I just I think we all knew that he was going to win no offense to you dress, but I you know, I come on like I was once they set the I was like, I'm not really interested now, but if any guy who went in could either is have beat have beat him. That's the question. I don't think there's gonna be I wouldn't I stopped and I still would like to see what Rogan do I'm not kidding. I feel like he would have the best chance against Rogan. It's not that good that goddamn a lion's mane is getting stronger and stronger every week. No, not with me. How many are coming back? Yes get to Josh and the nominations. Okay, ninja and Leroy both want vo Josh Josh wants Joss. That's fun to say and the reason Josh wants Joss is so that there won't be if because if Theo goes in and he loses Has then car and Polly's alliance with the UK will be even stronger. That's why he wants to make sure that Theo stays up there because Theo's Alliance is much smaller. He wants to keep him safe and easy dress is dead weight. I guess he doesn't go. I'm sorry. No my progress. Yes. Yes, so that's why I just happening. So they want to keep them for those reasons. Yes. I just didn't understand why I mean I understood all that. Yes. I don't understand why Josh? Yeah got so. Escalated and he did and crazy. I do think he's the craziest drama queen. I don't know why you can turbo tonight. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah provocation turbo this it's like you guys are like wait what it's not like they lied or went back on their words or that they had agreed to pick someone. It's like we wanted him. We wanted him. We brought it to the team. So why can't Josh said you just said the truth he acted it's not the truth. He acted like they were betraying Packed they have inside pietrangelo did like that he acted so you want to turn against you're doing it's like they didn't betray anyone or I just think Josh knows what's going on with everyone else that was going on as it doesn't does right? So he's calling them out for the fact that you're really not working with your team. You're working. Why would it would in theory in theory? It's it doesn't really matter, right? They're both good you're getting rid of someone on their team. Who cares? Yes, but the Lions on the UK is hurting even more now or would have hurt even more feel went home. So that's why Josh wanted to keep him. Right and I think that's also it is it's not right. It's whatever but I'm always mad. It's the opposite Theo wants the other state is on right but yeah feels like it's our UK is very small. It only has two other people. He goes home that Alliance is down to two and poly car got a Stranglehold of the rest of the UK people. Right? But all of that is stupid because we have no idea how that's going to Down so who cares? I'm just telling you what the odds are I don't care either way. They became a turncoat then USA would have the numbers and be the winning team. So that's what the ocean and done. Well, if you can't do that though now because too many people voted him in he died like ninja now he don't like Leroy because they voted him in that's why he went back. Yeah, Molly whatever but he'd still have more he'd still have a majority and it still be on a winning team. I would have if I were theater, I just want to see someone jumped ship got darn it, seriously, so - do it Jordan to do but did not raise his hand for do producers for nothing. All right, let's get to who cares about the rest. He just goes on let's get to the big fight because I know Pam's very excited and we've and I'll start you off Pam because I agree with you here. Jordan makes a super dumb comment Tu Cara that's what exactly what I wrote down and it is so this is what happens car comes into the room and says Polly you ready to workout. Piyo is like, yeah, and then Leroy makes it joking cute. With Camp because they're so cute tonight. Hey, cam you going to put on your workout clothes? And apparently she doesn't work out as probably as much as the others and she's all I've been thinking about it. Jordan says well, maybe you know, yeah thinking about it really gives your cardiovascular health and which is fine because campus and work out that much. It's a cute whatever it's fun. And then he says to Cara. Yeah you to you Carl runs a ton. She works so much. So Jordan, what the hell is this? I don't understand what the low what the Dig was mad. At least if you're gonna do a dig make it a fact and Jordan says all I do is speak facts, which later on he does about A bow which I agree with he does speak affected turbo did not perform. Well, or he didn't think for a while in the container thing, but you're not speaking facts to Cara Jordan. So your what's going on, but it's a dick for sure. It was a dig. I mean, obviously they have their issues and but make the Dig A truthful. That's all I'm trying to say. Yeah. I'm going to make a dick at all. It was unnecessary. It really was he just wanted to get under her skin, right it worked and he knows how to do that. You know, it's not do it. Well, yeah. On this topic, I will say number one. I don't think she had all the facts but I do think Tori throughout all of this was the voice of reason I do think she's reasonable again. You can be in a couple of not be a banana head because of your your significant other. I thought Tori was right. She just didn't have all the information. So it starts with Jordan doing that car gets fired up. Also this this this episode was cut all that like Tory's the best runner like that's how Like I can't run with you Tori and I must so maybe he was saying compared to Tory and his mind and he knew that would needle party that I'm giving the producers and the editing more credit because it was D passed out. She couldn't keep up with Tori. Georgia said I can't keep up with you and I'm a runner and whatever so then he makes that comment about running so car gets pissed Ashley Desai and starts then Kurt. What's his name Jordan starts talking. Going about Ocasek are saying I don't need to prove myself to you. You don't even think turbos good and he won the hardest challenge ever. So that's what gets Jordan talking about turbo to which Ashley as the brilliant light bulb ding. I'm gonna go tell turbo which is just smart. How is that? How is that smart? Because it's the US fighting against the u.s. Right now and she's going to tell someone to make it even worse. Why is that smart surprise? Lies a smart because you said yeah, you loved her tonight. I didn't greet her tonight. And I think it was smart because she a wants if turbo was officially on if it was turbo Paulie cam. Okay Ashley they would have so the numbers that it would be great. The only reason Jordans acting out like this and being such a provocateur for lack of a better word is because he's trying he's mad but they're not on a hisle that people aren't under his Alliance. I 100% disagree. All right, I will always give Ashley props for being a good competitor, but I'm not I don't agree with her that that was I don't even think she did it as a smart move. She even said she was bored right? I guess. I honestly think she just did it to cause drama. She's literally says oh no, I'm really good friends with turbo. You ain't good friends with turbo. I never do it to stir the pot. You're not doing a hundred percent. So of camel ear I are an item now, so he's going to vote with them and stupid job. Just acting the way he does towards Leroy freaking out at him for making his own decision, which had nothing to do with Pauly again. I don't think Leroy's under Paulie's command at all. I think they'll thought this is my best vote and did it and it was weird that Josh reacted that way to Leroy who's not in team poly. Sorry, I'm interrupting myself, but then so then those guys really have the number and then it's really Torre Jordan Zach and nany and that's it against everyone else the more people you have on your team the better. Or if they are going to start when it does start getting dirty and and people start turning against each other. I think Ashley had two motives one boredom to turbo on her team. Yeah, and I just think it was and I then so Jordan and turbo start fighting and I mean the main reason they're funny because Jordan says a fact about your well maybe turbo isn't as strong as we had a great rookie season. We talk about real he's never making it to the finals. He won the goddamn thing, so they're giving props there for sure, but maybe true Is showing some weaknesses throughout the season which he is swimming is not the best. We don't really know how he is with puzzles. He may be doesn't have much endurance just because I mean literally Polly Polly confirmed what Jordan said which was when they were trying to rip the puzzle piece up turbo said, I'm can't I'm tired and Jordan was like this was even that much of an endurance. We just had to kind of like let our body weight slide to the other side and then run back here Zelena. This is where it's interesting because I wonder if it's just a matter of Turbo Lettin off the gas. In the offseason because we clearly saw the guy has endurance with that last crazy challenge. He obviously does so maybe you just got out of shape a little bit let off a little bit. But yeah, it's been here for like two months though that are you not running every day tomorrow. Yeah running on the treadmill. I think it's just a clash of egos Jordan won his challenge, you know turbos one his I think it's one of those things were Jordans like no. I'm the man. I want to be the man and then you know turbo is so they just To get at him. I think Jordan just feels threatened. But yes, it's turbo. I'm sorry turbo is not weak whatsoever because before the challenge he was on Survivor. He won both of those Seasons from what I hear. So in Survivor, it's just like kind of like a challenge they go through challenges, you know, he's not as well. I don't know friends and interesting what I want to say. Maybe he's maybe jealous that everyone thinks that turbos the best when Jordan really does in his head that think he's the best so I think that Jordan Like why does this why does everyone think he's so good? I think I'm better than him and he Jordan wants to point out all the times that turbo wasn't so good to make himself a better competitor in the eyes of the other Challengers are just machines and wants Jordan has a big ego and Jordan whatever. That's how I think Jordan takes where he starts copying his walk and I think and we're laughing but like he's best mocking her bows not mocking anything about Jordan right and no one would and I never would have you guys ever was They're going to do what I want all if you've ever been knocked in a real, I'm your roommate. No, he's getting in his head which he clearly has and you see turbo hip are enough Breaking Point and if turbo that that's that guys like the turbo kicks back, right? That's another we guys like that. That's what you do because I'm that's when they make mistakes and that's what Jordan realizes wish number one. I wish we I wish Cara would never have let Jordan get to her I get this she takes this very seriously. A about offended her I get it when she we I'm just backtracking when she's like, what do I now do you want to fuck? It's like no card don't tours. Like what know? What are you talking about? This was back to my tour. He's the voice of reason. She's like, why is this? Why are you doing this? I wanted to go Tory. He started it the whole time. I don't know how much Tori heard of what he was saying to Cara and what he was saying the needling and I think Tori even not tour even knows. This side of Jordan and the challenge that's not the boy friend and partner that she knows and loves this side is like cocky and aggressive and arrogant and a Needler and someone that mocks people in a fight and that's just not cool and it'd be great. If you could not let him get under your skin, but apparently he knows how to do it and you know, he starts things. He can't finish. Hi. I don't want to cut you up and we have like zero time left. I wanted you to want at least one news and gossip guy. Let's go to news and gossip guys. Quick. Here we go. Yes. Alright. So the the list for the challenge 35 has been released. We have a lot of us have already seen it. There's a couple people not on it. And one of them is Polly and they gave a couple there's a whole list of weird reasons why he's not on and one of them is that he didn't pass his psychological examination and I um, and I don't know people are all arguing like, you know, that's why car didn't want to go on to now that Paul he's not going to go so she just decided to say no to it. So she's not on either and then apparently he was maybe possibly threatening people off season, but this is all just talking murmurs and talking another person said bananas went to producers and said that he feels unsafe somewhat with Paulie and he doesn't want Paulie on the next season and since bananas such a big figure the producer decided not to bring him back. The ban has jumped to Twitter and wrote. Came early this year looks like at MTV already put the Elf on the Shelf in regards to Polly. So there's his comment about it. There's just a whole bunch of up in the air why Paul? He's not there if Abram gets on and he passed that psych exam. How can Polly not like how crazy these producing poly is? Why do you guys think he's not there? It's just very basically they think MTV might have even just dropped polyol together like they don't even ever wanted to be able to Challenge again, what are your thoughts on this real quick? And then we'll wrap it up. They dropped them all together because they're like, why would they let him back on this season? He's great. He's great TV. I think there's something more that we don't know because he just doesn't add up because there have been people who have died. No way worse. I think Paulie and car going to be mercenaries. I think they're going to show up about I don't think car and Pauly are getting rid of so you think this is all being done just to keep the fans saying I can't put telling are not going to be on it. I know is if you saw the video that they said was threatening. He's like going he's like wrapping to something and doing like I'm going to get you. Well, that's what the guns thing or something right? That's another thing. They were saying it's it's there's a lot up in the air about the valuation. Who knows if that's true. It seems like there's been crazy or people on that's how much what do you have to do to pass a psych exam say, I'm okay to go and you're good. Like I understand that like how crazy could this list be that probably can't figure out how to pass this campaign on so many. Reality shows that it seems like if you don't fail on your 19th round, it's like there's like leading right? I think they're leaving very soon for his medical exam because it was I so that's disappointing. He he he went out to either an IG story of some kind. He's in a this is for you. He's in something hot tub. He has placed he has perfectly placed Suds right on his shoulder here very shirtless there. So if you want to watch it that it looks Sighing someone who I thought was by himself there and there was one of those typical I thought maybe some videos here from those. Yeah, he's cute. I don't know. What is it? I don't know if Paul he's playing us. I don't he does seem to be having a meltdown on social media like everything is like the Lions coming out as she goes to sleep. Everything sounds like there's a bunch of me but I say he's not here. We don't really know the reason I don't know if we'll ever know the truth and that's kind of sucks. But it is what it is. Yeah. All right. I'm wrapping this baby up at swaddle the baby. Here we go. My name is Daniel Lindgren. Thank you guys so much for joining us. You can follow me at idiot box Boys on The Tick Tock there. Yeah, so guys, I'm Benny Adams. You can find me on all social media at Benny Jay Adams and I am Pam gross. You can find me at Pamela groeschel and you guys out there we know, you know a lot about this stuff give us any news and gossip that you know, because I've been trying to follow this poly thing and get to the bottom of it and there's so much information misinformation if you can Twitter me some info about it. I would love to get to the bottom of This and you can find me guys on Instagram and David underscore Christopher underscore official or if it TV network again, thank you guys so much for hanging out with us staying up late. 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