Chief of police got hung hanged Silk Spectre is an FBI agent. Hero. Number three is practically a God himself. So tell them apart. He makes them blue. He is blue. He likes walking around with his dick hanging out and he can teleport. That's a big difference. Okay, forget the break new joke if y'all can fight fire with fire y'all can fight Mass with mass Tulsa is not realm. We are talking HBO's Watchman season 1 episode 3. She was killed by space junk now after buzz after show starts, right? right now Tick-Tock Tick-Tock Tick-Tock Tick-Tock Tick-Tock Tick-Tock Tick-Tock Tick-Tock Tick-Tock two times when we are talking Watchman HBO's Walkman season 1 episode 3. She was killed by space junk man. What an episode? Wow Phil there. I'm I keep expecting why this can't just keep going forever and yet it does. Yeah. It does such a such a lot. Hey boys involved. Okay. Yeah blue dildo. Hateful it but I didn't do it. I didn't do it. They did it. They did it by they I mean HBO's Watchman, of course, we are talking season 1 episode 3. She was killed by space junk fortunately on the planet Earth. No one to date as we know has been killed by space junk. However, if someone was to be killed it might be a person on this panel, but my left the queen of the Queen's drewjones is in the building. I feel like space junk mean something completely different. Oh no. Yes, it does killed by space junk by Wait till double entendre that if I've heard one yet all the way to her left and my left's left my favorite race traitor right Nelson in the building. Yes, that's me. This episode was dopa get it. I loved it. And yeah, I think space junk is the new euphemism for that type of toy it is it is and if I was going to be killed by space junk, that would be the space junk not of my choice if you don't know who I am I am. I will be hosting a paneling what the slew of other AfterBuzz panelists but remember all of you at home you are if not as much more so part of this panel than all of us and behind the blue curtain. Our favorite 10 is with us stuff sobral. Thank you so much for holding it down. All right. I appreciate you and your wonderful attitude. Let's break this at this this episode down. We're going to have to discuss a lot of different things. First of all, Lori Blake. That is its own chapters. Oh Lord blank so much Petey. I want to touch on PD who Ryan Nielsen's PD PD is Ryan Nelson, the legal acts these different acts you made a reference, of course Ryan to dopa and I think out of everyone here who's dopa Drew. That's you. Got dopamine joke. Okay, we're done with this joke that phone call the Chiefs funeral. We gonna have to break that down and especially the 7th Cavalry attack. Senator Joseph King jr. And then R sub plot R sub storyline, which we don't know how it ties in yet, but it's tying in so well Ozymandias that letter we have a special segment by herself shushing when you pick an element of the show that is working for you by or not working for you sell by the way. Y'all I'm in the chat. So please comment away. I know creasing Ryan's got full bottle waiting for me to say Damon Lindelof. That's right. We do have some news and gossip you're going to want to stay tuned for and of course are on point predictions and more. Let's start with our overall thoughts on this episode Drew everything. I thought about this episode was foreshadowed by a giant blue dildo. And now it's just like everything else is a blur for me every time Ryan says, what's the name? You say? Well, I'm DEA Mañana Lindelof and every time Drew says Joe. It blew dildo. We're taking drinks and shots to take three shots. That's how it works. I blue dildos were three shots don't think I say it as much as he says not yet. Well, whatever the after show has just begun. Were you a fan of the tie-in with dr. Manhattan and the joke and being on Mars? And yeah, I like when TV shows kind of do a long stretched out and they're like you're like what's going on here? What is Is the joke I like stuff like that. So I liked how they tied it all in together. Especially someone who doesn't know. I know like the basics but someone who doesn't know a lot it's cool to see how they take stuff from the comics or taking stuff from the movie and their sprinkling into this shake it all about you do the hokey pokey Ryan on for dr. Manhattan the overall thoughts on the show overall thoughts. I loved this episode. I thought it was a unique set up the structure remind me of Double Indemnity and that someone's on the phone leaving a message and we're just flashing. Ack through everything happened prior to them leaving that message also remind me of the movie narrated by Rorschach which this it had to know our feel the entire time and just the introduction of this officer played by Jean Smart. Really she just owns it the second she gets on screen and I've really thrilled with the show so far. Yeah. I thought it was really good in the war Shack the joke was reminiscent of Rorschach as well. The he tells a clown joke and she tells this tie in with the brick. Rick and the people going to heaven so during the in the movie Rorschach and throughout the comic book so Rorschach tells that joke regarding the clown and he says I am the clown, you know the sad clown joke. So it was very good to bring it back. Exactly great. Great voice to me this this episode was about Lori Blake. So if you liked Laurie Blake you liked this episode if you did not like Lori Blake you possibly did not like this episode. Personally, I loved Lori Blake. Lori Blake is very enigmatic as a character. I enjoy the concept of how we tied in Silk Spectre into of course being one of the The Watchman that we all knew and loved tying it back in making her an FBI agent making her against vigilantism showing her taking down the vigilantes in the beginning the Revenger and the shadow and so showing these montages and and and the nod to Batman of course and bringing it all in this show is the most interesting intriguing show on HBO and it is a show that Rivals Game of Thrones it Rivals Game of Thrones and in its in its greatness Game of Thrones had had action. This has an actual script that's amazing and what I like Game of Thrones they have this banter this back and forth that happened very Shakespearean and at Times Watchman does a very similar thing. If you notice the conversation between Lori Blake and and sister night and between Angel a a bar that conversation the back and forth, but the attack the abrasiveness the intimidation and then the return it's tennis you're watching it back and forth really enjoy the show a lot. Let's start with Lori Blake. Let's start with where do we even start? Yeah worry. We wanted to go in with the information of the comic book. You know that she's Silk Spectre and that the end of the graphic novel she finds out that the comedian is or father. So she's Dawn the last name Blake Blake. I didn't actually think she do that. Of course. She went from Lori Jupiter to Lori blink, right? So she has that last name and even in the beginning they go officer Blake oguo is this is supposed to be Lori or her mother. I guess if I but they never were married I yeah, I really what an awesome way to intro character staging a bank heist with all that. Just to get one hero down that really just set her up as this badass officer who will go to whatever lengths to get what she wants. I've well, I'm obsessed with her character. Yeah, I really like that. She's very unapologetically kind of bitchy. I think that's fun. I think yeah. I just I don't know. She's very like this is who I am. I don't really care how you feel and I like her little back and forth with Ryan who's Ryan schtoppel ganger Petey Petey. He I like how she goes back and forth with him. And you know, she's just very Cutthroat the entire time. There's no weak spot for her and I kind of like that Ryan you stated that she's willing to go to any lengths to get the job done any legs. Anyway, no matter how long or not blue. Okay, we're not making those comparisons investigation, right? She'll go deep in To any investigate Drew. Yeah, Ryan mentioned how Lori Blake was willing to go to any lengths to get the job done. Yeah. What do you feel about her motivation regarding this particular investigation? How do I feel about it sure with the getting to the bottom of the of the sheriff's hanging and and what's in the closet the tie-ins? Yeah, I feel like I want to know a little bit more what her mother. I mean we kind of get like a mother died. I just feel like there's something there that we're not like we're still surface level with her and I want to know What intrigues her so much about all those know what you know, what made her hate vigilante? Yeah. Why does she feel that way? Why is she kind of beefing with Angela right off the bat? You know, why does she why does she know all you know, why does she know to look into the closet and all I just want to know she's a great investigator. My whole thing was with Angela. I felt like she saw herself in Angela silk. She saw Silk Spectre. Yeah, Angela that obsessiveness that compulsion. Getting off on being a vigilante so it's almost as if she's talking to her younger self, but I can't tell if there is a sense of compassion there where it's like I know where you've been and I'm trying to help you or if it's just a screw all Vigilantes. I'm gonna bite your head off type of vibe for me personally. I'm yeah, I think that's what we're going to learn probably down the road another big thing with her character. They mentioned up top she that there's an owl in a cage. And like from the graphic novel who night who yeah, it was a finding in the cage. I think they're referencing Night Owl, of course, which you know, this whole episode was talking about her relationship with dr. Manhattan. She also had a relationship with Night Owl. She and he's in jail. So I'm curious if if this Lorry Blake still has feelings for that night owl or maybe she put him behind bars. I don't know. That's an interesting call if she's responsible if the new lawyer Blake was the one responsible for putting Night Owl Behind Bars. She's a hard copy. She is she's tough. And she's one of she's one of the I know things if she's asking you a question. This is this is one of those girlfriend moments when the girlfriend knows saw the text and she's asking you and it's your opportunity to tell the truth or not. Did you get that sense where she knows all Yeah, she does kind of have a God complex words. I already know the answer and I already know the outcome of this you might as well just fall into it and tell me what's going on. I completely agree. What was interesting about that though. She does know she knows that something was in that that class and the closet. She knows everyone's secret identity. She privy to this information. It's almost as if dr. Manhattan did rub off on her and her attitude that condescending way in the mannerism in which he Beds PD. Yeah, she bets him he doesn't bet her the conquest is is definitely her to him. She is for shirring dominating personality. I like that. He was still wearing his mask after the fact I feel I feel like she made him. I know I absolutely feel like she did maybe we'd and if you remember even a flashback to the movie where Nite Owl and Silk Spectre as when they were when they were out of costume. They weren't able to copy late. But then in costume later after resuming their vigilante roles that passion led to them being able to be intimate. I did not notice that that's all. Yeah, you're right. So is this a thing where she has a mask fetish she has vigilante fetish. I mean, obviously she still has something for dr. Manhattan and it's something that she let go reluctantly even in the comic books and the movie she didn't want to move on. I'm dr. Manhattan lost what he perceived as his humanity and then she moved on that famous line in which dr. Manhattan says she asked did you even care and he says when I lost you I left Earth. Yeah, 30 years. She he's she's technically the reason he's on Mars. Right? She really is. I think I think that's something we're just getting away to find out with her character. I don't know I was the for the first half the episode. I thought she was just this really committed to The law cop and then we realize oh, there's some stuff she doesn't even care about and that she's kind of people. I think he's out for herself. I think she has a personal goal or Vendetta, maybe just to contact John dr. Manhattan because you know, you see her go visit Looking Glass and she doesn't even care if there's laws being broken. So I think she's out for herself and she's got a room. I love that same personally where she's like, do you feel your civil rights are being violated? Yeah, actually, yeah, I don't care. Yeah, yeah don't care. You're like her a lot. I'm the Lori Blake of the point-blank of the panel here the PD I'm if you call me the giant don't know how I'm leaving take a shot. So just to formulate this idea of who is PD to Lori. Well, who's Ryan to you? Oh God, who's Peter Lorre? It's weird that when he volunteers to go with her. She's like, all right. Well, thanks again. I really don't know I think maybe because she knows he's just a fan much like us we're just fans in this network. I think I think that she wants to be around people that she knows she can have control of her because the person she loved she could not control. Or maybe she just like she kind of sees herself in Angela. Maybe she also sees herself in PD and is like I have to break him because he's an old the old Lori the Lorry that met. Dr. Manhattan is very much like a PD. Yeah. Wow. Yeah naive doesn't know what's going on about apt. So to me when it comes to impede even tries to step up for himself. I actually have a PhD in history and I'm not a fan and then he turns out to kind of Of just be a fan but even has a few moments where he's a little sassy back with her and I think it's you know peeking a little bit that he has that little inside of him. He tries making a joke and it's not funny to me. But yeah, he still gets his coffee taken away from him at the end there like she has all the control over but that's what I mean. When I say Lori Blake knows all she's so smooth even the way she says did you Did you have any other Snopes young? Let's go and intimidate sister night. Now did that seem to be an interrogation to you or was she testing a potential partner? I felt it was more like she was just telling her. You know, she knows what's up. Like it was kind of one of those like he might have been able to get one over before but I'm here so hey, what's up, you know real recognize real Oh, I thought this was a test for partner for sure. I think even at it before the funeral she goes, you know, I'm here because you're no longer a cop, but I'm here for Vigilantes. Like what's there between a vigilante in a cop there is no difference like the mascot amassed cop and a vigilante if she doesn't know the difference she No, and then she goes and she says no Angela says no and then Lori says me neither angel. I'm friends where I think this episode because she messed up by shooting that guy and she even goes to the line you had nine times out of ten. They don't even go through the work of putting it but yet something drew said resonated with me where and since I'm familiar and especially, you know, what Drew and stuff Unapologetic people right Unapologetic people boy when you have Unapologetic people, she did not apologize. Large eyes for her actions. She simply explained it. She said nine times out of ten. Usually, it's not true. They don't take the time to do so. She didn't say, I'm sorry. Oh, thank you so much. I'm so glad you were there to do this. She almost did it on purpose to test Angela just like she's testing every single other person in the show. I think even when we keep joking about it when she goes to PT's room that's a test II really do think that she is it's more testing instead of interrogating. Okay, I'm think about what because I also was thinking about she's made like multiple comments about Angela's husband being hot being hot which like same like, oh you he is hot unicorn test. Let's be very honest. He is extremely good-looking. He's yeah. Yeah Abdul Martin the second very good-looking very good-looking guy and she says it would it doesn't even make sense if you would cheat on your husband because he's so hot, right? But she's kind of once again testing her just pushing those boundaries pushing those buttons getting under people's skin. It's almost as if she has a wall up to keep people out so that she can stand on top of the wall and be able to look down. I definitely see that maybe I'm just projecting maybe I'm just projecting. You're just projecting. Yeah, I'm projecting one thing. I don't project however is the fact in the sentiment that you all at home are as much if not a more so part of this panel as all of us. Yes, thank you so much. You guys make us the ESP MTV talks you for watching this on YouTube again. I'm in the live Channel shut y'all out. Please hit that like button comment. Subscribe. Go on iTunes. Give us a five star review. If you give us a review on iTunes on with shout you out on air and thank you again for making us the ESPN of TV talk ding. Thank you Peter. I mean Ryan, thank you. So sorry that I call you PDR apology. Let's go over really quick the different legal acts that we heard. So we've all we know that in this world. There are things like the Reformation. And that nature but we also get the defensive police act dopa dope. We also get the victims of violence actions. These are policies that are made in response to different different circumstances that have happened of course dopa is in regards to the White Knight. Yeah where everything goes with night to heck. Hmm and to Nanking pass the Bill James Keenan just to Bill and That's who I would like to talk about now is getting into that Senator. Joseph King jr. What is his motivations? Who do we think he is? Is he on the side of good on the side of batter on the side of self? I feel like maybe it's the accent that makes me want to believe this but I feel like he had good intentions in the beginning and maybe just because it's politics got a little dirtied up but I understand y'all if y'all Can't Fight Fire with Fire y'all can fight Mass with masks itself. I'm going self that's why I'm plants where I'm tossing my bed into uh, yeah. I think he's all out for himself. He even there's a detail where Crawford's wife. Ran his campaign. So there's something going on there and you know Crawford had a hood in his closet. I think I think he's got Cruel Intentions. I think he is a double agent politician to face and I think we're gonna we're gonna put this is the last time we're going to see King. This is the accident. We just show everyone what that accent is either racist or a liar or something. It's how we're program. I personally am a fan of Senator Joseph King jr. Simply because I believe in his Power of of persuasion. I don't want to use the term persuasion. However, the concept is I feel that some politicians have a hero complex named senator. Joseph King jr. Is one of those but Vigilantes have one too where it's I'm the one to make a difference now, it seems like a hero complex when you're not the one to make a difference oftentimes. We always go man. Someone should do something about that and we forget the concept we are someone We can do something about that and there's nothing wrong with Senator Joseph King jr. Stepping up and doing something about it. I think Keen is to face without the burns man. He's something happened to him on that why tonight? And I think he passed that bill for different reasons than we think he did. I think he has a second agenda. He has to face without the burns. I disagree. I think he was not that bad in beginning and it's just gotten mixed up and is in over his head because I could also not be surprised if the the 7th Cavalry bomber that came to the funeral was commissioned by Keane in some elaborate scheme in order to increase his popularity. Once again, he says all the right things. He does all the right things. It's too good to be true. He could be diabolical could be diabolical. But then again a man in a wheelchair could have strung up Sheriff Crawford. I don't know that's the concept of the show. We get that Chiefs funeral and I don't know if it was a great idea to have all the police all in the same area to begin with right. So the attack seemed what I would suspect is inevitable. Mmm. Okay, but We also get this moment where Angela shows her true colors. What were your thoughts overall on the funeral and on Angela's actions? Will the is a cop funeral. So please got to be there. I think I know that there's just an instance of the 7th Cavalry, but I totally understand why the cops had to be there. I think I think you're onto something with Keen potentially hiring that and setting that up. And I mean that was a gigantic hole in that grave the grave site. Yeah. I'm really curious how that girl thoughts on the whole funeral. I mean, this said a lot about all these characters first and foremost that we got Crawford's body blew up because they shoved his coffin into Angela's job just coffin into the grave site and now they cannot exhume the body and view it. I think that was a major detail. It also said a lot about Lori's character in The Shield shoot first. You know, what we saw that in the bank robbery. We did see that in the bank. Free however, that was after they'd already that's after he started running, you know, they which is even worse it is even and then there was a question where one of the agents was like agent Blake how did you know his bulletproof body suit would stop the bullets and I don't think Drew I don't think she knew I don't think it is worse. I don't think it can take you away. Yeah, because if you shoot a guy who's got a bomb strapped to his body that could explode you could The politician I think that she could have doomed everyone right there. I think that's way more riskier than shooting than shooting a vigilante running away in a society where that's illegal. I thought I thought you were saying it wasn't that bad that she shot him in the back and I got concerns. I don't know. That's pretty yeah, I agree with you. I don't think I don't think her shooting the guy running away was riskier than the bomb situation. I just thought it was worse. I thought it showed in difference in character. Not that it was more dangerous second of all. In terms of policy technically speaking. We try to save lives but we do not negotiate with terrorists because once you negotiate with a terrorist, that is extremely slippery slope where does it end? If you give them what they want once based on the act of force, then it will never end and continue. So you actually throw everything at the problem. All right. What was the sangra If You Give a Pig a Pancake hell you never heard of Quahog no, no, no the rest. Pancakes a beloved children's book. You should check it out. What is it? It just it's if you give them a little but keep going and we'll keep at like asking for more. What's the book If You Give a Pig a Pancake? Okay, I guess they didn't have this book in the Middle East know if I don't think is very popular in the Middle East call some indifferent sir. Yeah might have there might've been a rewrite if you give a camel. Okay, so I'm so sorry. We just get that so so we get this the seventh Calvary do you believe the 7th Cavalry is behind the Chiefs death? True. I'll take this one go for it. I do I do think the 7th Cavalry is behind this but I don't think they worked alone Tehran. I think Keen is in on it. Like you just recommended. I think it was planned Drew. Are you gotta let this happen? Are you going to let him and he's just 250 file without the bird Senator Kaine and that's a agree that Keynes and on it, but I do think they're involved but I think they're like once or twice removed from it. It's too obvious for it to be they just them I definitely I think there's some type of connection to them though. I don't think they're clean on it. His name is literally Keen, you know, he's smart. No, he's intelligent. It's right there. It's right in front of you. But I feel like it's literally are they gonna to obvious though? I think so obvious for there to be at the Crooked politician or it could just be an Irish. Last name before guy was born does that we're thinking Hmm, okay. He's he's a traitor not a race traitor race traitor is a race traitor. So we get this joke this running joke the phone call right? Very intricate. We get a joke where it's set up the bricklayer joke and then she agent Blake goes off on a tangent. So I messed up the joke goes into another joke the joke of the three Heroes that go to heaven and speak to God obviously a direct reference to the heroes of Watchmen, right? To the Watchman members so we get first was night owl and I know the person with all the entire intelligence who can create inventions and what does he do with it? Secondly was Ozymandias the smartest man ever gave him the most Intelligence on the planet. And what does he do with it? Thirdly was dr. Manhattan a man who's basically a God himself and to differentiate the two he made him blue. Hmm, and then finally right when God has I'd forgotten sees a little girl who was there and she he says I didn't notice her I didn't notice you were there and she who are you I'm I'm this never happens to me. But who are you and she says I'm a little girl. I'm not a hero. I'm the girl that threw the brick he's in see it going strong and he does not see it coming and the brick Kilns God and where does God go when God dies. God goes to hell EG double hockey sticks that was brilliant to me really was it was brilliant Damon Lindelof take the shot take the shot greasy and Ryan in the chat. Definitely brilliant. Did I thought it was? There was an Intrigue to it and it was extremely telling of not only the character but the storyline of Watchmen overall. It was a nod to the original comic book and to the movie it was a nod to the way Watchman is supposed to be done thoughts thoughts incredible writing also incredible visuals during that entire monologue in that the really showing Tulsa is hell. For everyone, I think every time she said the word hell it cut to someone opening a door in Tulsa entering Tulsa. Something like something sinister is happening. The toaster in Tulsa. Tulsa is hell right and that I will give as senator Joseph Keen. There's a tie in there like God intended stir is happening Drew. What did you think? No, I just think like you said it was amazing writing. It didn't feel forced at all. And I think that's really big especially for shows like this where they're trying to Have a message. They're trying to have you know, a point of view on whatever social commentary. Sometimes it can feel really Force. But this was a really natural. I think you know, I'm packaging of the episode so good. It was so good. It was so well done. Now we get the sub story Ozymandias. We get this letter from the game. Warden we get more of something's going on. We have no idea what and of course we get this All concept of something that was very interesting. His horse's name was boosts awfulest which is the horse of Alexander the Great. Oh, wow. Yes, and that of course we know is Ozymandias his favorite historical character. Yeah. So it looks after the Empire. Yeah, exactly leader the Persian Empire, but we won't get into that, please. I'm not an idiot. Mozzie Mandy is so we discussed this concept. What do you think of ozymandias' storyline? I'm and what is he trying to accomplish? I feel like he has an obsession with dr. Manhattan. He's trying to do what dr. Manhattan did like trying to replicate it. Maybe I don't know you think with the Sioux tryout trials with all of his henchmen. Yeah. Yeah. He's trying to eat out equal himself to him. He's totally obsessed. I completely agree with that. I I still don't know what he's trying to do though. I don't know if he's trying to be calm be trying to become. Dr. Manhattan. I think he's trying to He's doing something with some suit. Maybe he's going to visit Mars. I'm just really not all that sure yet. I don't know why you would wear the metal something from like the Middle Ages in for space. I'm really this has been kind of the most frustrating but also intriguing part of the entire show for me because this is the stuff is so Random. I have no idea where we're going to get each week and they give him cake every episode. I don't I really am trying to figure it out. Thicker skin was the takeaway. You need thicker thicker skin. It's interesting. We have this game warden. I don't know what the game warden was. It seems like it's someone he created there's a very big Howard Hughes feel to Adrienne that I feel this secluded recluse in his own mind and yet there's a method to his Madness a genius behind it that we are unable to see and it as it the storyline divulge has I will say this while I would ask I would naturally think that a storyline of this nature would would convolute the the show it does nothing it is perfect. It is amazingly it is amazing counterpart. It's like having two main course meals simultaneously and not having something that confuses me. It does not throw me off at all. In fact, it's a pieces of Pop of a puzzle that I don't even know what the picture is. I'm creating the puzzle on the back side. I think it's more like a dessert menu. That's right there and you're seeing it and it's looking good, but you just don't really know what you're going to Quite yet and at the end, it's gonna be delicious. You just want to take my metaphor make it better or Drew. What what move food what food metaphor. Can you make that happen? But I just want you to know his was in fact better way better. I liked it a lot. I think there's something on there called Blue there might be I don't know we might get some steps tomorrow. Could you please be the tiebreaker in the food metaphor Department? Sure. I don't want to be a part of this discussion. I just want to watch the best Watchman after show out there period all right, leave me alone. Thank you. Steph sobral you Unapologetic that's on Mars right now. Let's let's discuss the letter the letter from the game. Warden. What did you think the letter meant? We have no idea any time we talk Ozymandias. We're all just stop. I just like I don't get because it seems like he he not like he knows the What is the guys name the game or game? Warden game? Warden the heat it seems like it's another one of his henchmen, but the same time he's like you do that again. I'm pulling up so I'm confused. You just made it as gangster Mom. Okay, he's what's going on. Oh, you know what? I really did like, I'd like the back and forth rhetoric between the two the letter that game. And then of course Adrian in the most Adrian of ways engine and then I'm glad you enjoyed the tomatoes and he said Tomatoes it was very is a tomato or tomato diced tomatoes. I'd love to hear from you guys in the comments. What are you thinking of the Ozymandias suction? What are we getting in the chat right now a few people saying Ozymandias is fully capable of making himself into another. Dr. Manhattan. I have agree with that. I think you know so much that was random that maybe that's what really frustrates him about that. Other people say it's really weird. It's the weirdest part of the episode each episode. There's more and more candles in the cake. Didn't notice that Kalyn baby great. Great job, Jeff Williams local hosts an AfterBuzz. Shout out to you. He says I hundred percent agree with Drew great take who's tough Williams. I think he does a Flash. No, but yeah, everyone's just saying they completely agree. It's the weirdest part. I think they think Ozymandias is trying to get to Mars. That's what I mean. That seems to be the conclusion. There is something about space as Body falls back and it's frozen and then but I did not like something and I'll talk about it in our special segment by ourselves. Should she buy or sell or we pick an element of the of the show that's working for us or we sell it and it's not working for us. Let's start off. You know, I'm gonna throw it to tear on right now. No, I want to hear from I want to hear from Drew. Actually. I want to hear from Juliet's ruse by ourselves. I am buying agent Blaine. I think she's like a fantastic addition to the show and definitely a lot more interested and I'm selling Bluebell down find that one actually went on Amazon. It looks extra large. It's coming Tuesday. Uh-huh. I am I'll go next. I am buying the fact that you can go to a site and leave a voicemail for dr. Manhattan all across the country. I think that is capitalism at its finest. Absolutely. I love that idea and the fact that he yes is indeed listening and I'll let you know by sending you a mold up car. I am selling I am selling this idea that I'm selling this idea that that Ozymandias Adrian veidt has captivated himself on purpose to this place. I think that that's a red herring. I think that's a red herring and I think that I think there's going to be an ultimate. It fake out maybe he's in some kind of Westworld like place where you literally cannot find them, but he's so rich in in brilliant that you can put himself there. So I'm I'm selling this that this idea that he's captivated himself. That's great. I'm buying the phone call the phone call itself. I thought that that was brilliant and extremely well done. I loved it all the way through especially since we got this idea of Lady true and we will find out who she is in the next episode. And of course the fact that Dr. Manhattan was actually listening from Mars something that only dr. Manhattan would do and then respond in such a manner and while agent Blake said you never had a sense of humor. This was his show of a sense of humor brilliant. I'm selling the idea that that Adrienne would get so upset when one of his plans did not work that he would start crushing. I do not remember Adrian being such an emotional person. Yeah. He is logical through him through and that intelligence is what made at him able to do even the the Sinister thing that he did was unleashing whether you believe the comics with the giant monster on major cities or of course using dr. Manhattan's powers to to make explosions, which I like better that I like. I personally like the explosion scenario better just seemed more realistic and the world of the Watchman. But either way I'm selling that let's discuss some news and gossip. AfterBuzz TV news so The Daily Beast.com one of our favorite sites to get some dirt news discusses Jean Smart our favorite new Watchman addition who played Agent Lori Blake Gene smarts Watchman debut on Silk Spectre becoming an action hero and the Designing Women come back. That's right. We got some Designing Women coming back out, but everyone was talking about Watchman critics were raving about it fans were debating. It trolls were definitely trolling it and This is how you know something really clicked Jean Smart. However was taking her daughter to school. She was not aware and then became super aware of the premiere of HBO's Watchman series as she is tickled by the massive response to the show and she discusses in this what is a retelling of an interview of how she felt her how she came to be part of the show. She was killed by Spain space junk is Being Framed by this monologue that she delivers and it's basically to satiate the fans of Alan Moore. Dave Gibbons 19 every 87 graphic novel because it definitely discusses more of the mythology and Cannon and the source material turns out Lord is speaking through the phone to the booth to dr. Manhattan, which we all got to see and she gets to love her life a more. So Jean Smart talks about her Swagger as Silk Spectre and sporting her auburn hair and the trench coat and the easy confidence of a superhero and spandex. We also get a nod to Designing Women and discussing it especially the 1986 comic I mean comedy show that was on television and is Resurgence of popularity that is on TV. We get a lot of Jean Smart and even more Watchman so you might want to go read The Daily Beast.com Gene smarts Watchman debut on Silk Spectre becoming an action hero and the Designing Women come back read it read it now. Let's get into some predictions. Shall we boom your AfterBuzz TV predictions? Let's start with our predictor of predictors drewjones. All right. Um, I think that Adrienne is trying to be dr. Manhattan or trying to be a ability wise his equal interesting interesting Rhino by that by that I predict that this isn't the last time we've heard rorschach's Journal. We had a pretty Little mentioned that from PD in that slide show who put that in almost like I put in Damon Lindelof and all these shows. So I think that that's not just a this is an 80s anymore that's going to come back. I also predict that next week just judging from what we saw going on with Ozymandias Adrian veidt that we're going to we're going to get a great idea of what he is trying to do. I think that was some kind of simulation on shooting something to the sky. So maybe he is trying to get to Mars. So I think we're going to learn what that is next week. I also Predict that next week we are going to find out what happened to our wheelchair man. When you got to take it from the sky above us and we'll see dr. Manhattan was that the car was thrown down know the car was a car a car for this Irregulars regular car? Yes. It did not seem to be Angela's car. That was a caravan. I believe I didn't remember. I don't care good. Yeah. Yeah, it was a caravan. And this was what seemed to be the agents car. Just I just really like that. That scene I'm going to predict that 7th. Cavalry is not behind share of Crawford's death As Told agent Blake specifically says they usually take credit and they didn't this one. Actually. The other agent also said that I also think that the Chiefs I'm still maintaining that the chief is not the bad person. It was his ancestor that he was making up for I still will hold on to that. I think that something super Sinister is happening in Tulsa. And we're going to find out I think that lady true is going to be more than meets the eye as we see her and I think that Angela and Gloria are going to butt heads in the best and worst of ways possible, but I guess we only have to wait till next week to find out but until then where can people find you if you want to be found Ryan Nielsen, you can find me at Ryan Nelson and IL SE and underscore. That's a try. No scoring on Twitter and Instagram Drew. You guys can find me on all the things. Okay. Juje. That's right. And you can find me at I am Toronto. And of course host Italy hosting and paddling. I think yes. That's right. I'm hustling. Okay, you don't know what that is oscillating. Okay tomato tomahto. I'm hosting and paneling on a slew of other AfterBuzz after shows because all of your favorite TV shows are my favorite TV shows two steps abroad where can people find you if they want to be berated. Wow, what an introduction at stuffs her bra great show guys. That's right. 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Afterbuzz hosts Tehran Von Ghasri @IAmTehran - Drew Jones @OkDrewJ - Ryan Nilsen @RyanNilsen_ - discuss HBO's WATCHMEN - SEASON 1 - EPISODE 3 - SHE WAS KILLED BY SPACE JUNK. Discussions include FBI Agent Laurie Blake aka Silk Spectre, terrorist attack on Senator Joseph Keene Jr, and talking to Doctor Manhattan. Discussions also include Ozymandias' secret plan, 7th Kavalry, The Joke, Special Segment: Buy or Sell, News & Gossip: Jean Smart as Laurie Blake, Predictions and more. Stay tuned! The doomsday clock draws nearer. Everything Begins. Nothing Ever Ends. Who watches the Watchmen? Join us for THE WATCHMEN AFTERBUZZ TV AFTER SHOW PODCAST as every single week, we'll be here discussing HBO's adaptation of the world famous graphic novel of the same name. From comic history knowledge to topical discussion on the largely divisive subjects the show covers, we'll be here breaking it down. Subscribe and comment to stay up to date with all things HBO's Watchmen. ABOUT Watchmen: "Watchmen takes place in an alternative, contemporary reality in the United States, in which masked vigilantes became outlawed due to their violent methods. Despite this, some gather around in order to start a revolution while others are out to stop it before it is too late, as a greater question rises above them all; who watches the Watchmen?" 