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What ChatterBait which is a newer lure in my Arsenal. I don't know a whole lot about it. It's gonna give us a little insight about that. And he's going to talk about River fishing, which I haven't done a whole lot of so that also be pretty educational for me. So either ones fine with me. I mean, I have a little bit expect the ChatterBait so I could just share a little bit of what I've learned this year from it. So just whatever you want to know. Well, yeah to me. It is a ChatterBait basically like a jig with a little little blade on it. I guess you can call it. Yeah, I was thinking about this earlier today because I kind of had a feeling that something you would want to talk about. So the I look at the ChatterBait as a like a swim jig type thing, but with something that like I mix it vibrate the blade. Makes it vibrate. So it's basically a swim jig. So anywhere you would throw a swim jig. You're going to want to throw a Chatterbait. Okay, say I don't have a whole lot of experience with swim jigs. These are like football head jig. Ziz. What up their own mostly whenever I'm using a jig, but I haven't used a whole lot of variety of jigs. So what what kind of colors are you looking for? Whenever you're like picking a swim jig. It depends on water Clarity, honestly, if I'm fishing Clearwater, I'm going to throw more natural colors, obviously because Those fish there they're looking for something that looks natural and that clear watery. It's hard to like disguise the bait. So you got to make it look as natural as possible. And then the the more stained you go throughout the water column the more like darker colors, you can use and you can get away with using like chartreuse colors and orange black and blue, of course in Muddy Waters, which I've been killing it and Muddy Waters with black and blue this year. Uh, no just regular black. Yeah. I mean, I'll Junebug color stained muddy water. So that's another good one. Water thing. That's a good mental note right there because it's been raining so much this Summer that the water has been basically staying muddy around here. Like I don't know it's crazy. How much rain we've gotten for summertime that we haven't had a drought at all. Oh, yeah. See, it's funny. You mentioned that too because we've we've had Lakes and rivers flooded almost all year round up until maybe the end of June but these these bodies of water. They've just been really muddy and really really staying so I've been throwing that black and blue quite a bit this year and having a lot of success. I've learned a lot this year just from fishing Muddy Waters alone. It's kind of forced me to get out of my comfort zone and try to learn more about it, but Yeah, that that black and blue ChatterBait and Muddy Waters. It's been killer. I've won a tournament off of it this year. Like I was the only guy to catch a limit that day and the the water you could not see you couldn't even see an inch down into the water. So it was that it was that dirty. So I guess I've been kind of I've been kind of blessed with the water being muddy because I've just just because of the stuff I've learned from it. So it's just been a crazy year. Yeah, the you know, I have a hard time because like I don't even have a depth finder on my kayak and so, you know Clearwater you can kind of see you know, what's down in the water. Sometimes you can see the fish or whatever, but when it's muddy water. You can't really see anything down there. So unless you know the water real well and know where structure is down there and stuff you it's yours. It's a suit in the dark. Yeah, you just it definitely is. I mean, I'm not real big deep fisherman guy. I don't really know how to read it like Tronics very well either. So when I'm throwing that ChatterBait, I'm looking for structure, right? The bank I'm looking for. I don't know. I don't a 65 feet deep water. You can see weeds coming up to the surface. That's where I'll be throwing the ChatterBait next to that next to lay downs next to trees, you know, any brush pile. I mean anywhere, you would throw any kind of jig basically, but I've noticed they definitely shine when you throw them near weeds. That's it. That's something I've been looking out more this Here because you know, I never really looked for weeds before this year and it's pretty sad after five years of bass fishing that I kind of avoided weeds. But to me, it was like on good just going to get hung up in that stuff like that. And so this year of I've kind of learned like no that's where the fish are going to be. You want to get in those weeds in back in the spring. I went out with some buddies and the water was real low. We're in this with because Stewart's Creek down here kind of goes into Percy pretty slate and the water was low and there was a bunch of weeds in this area that I knew from last year was covered in water in the summertime. When the waters back up, so when I went out I went out there and back in June and I went over there to where those weeds were and I just started throwing a Whopper purple Hopper over top of them and bring them back to me and I caught a fish. So like where I was avoiding grass there was probably fists are that entire time? Yeah that they're definitely always in the grass. Gasps so throwing topwater right above that. They're always looking up. So that's that's always a good idea another good thing though when you're fishing like really thick thick weeds when you can't throw crankbaits or ChatterBait or anything another good thing to throw is a rubber worm. And what you do is Texas Rig that and then tungsten weight and Peg it with day. Powder stop so it slides right through those weeds with every little twitch right through those weeds. And then you'll just hit you'll just filled like the bass just slam it once you feel that you set the hook and pull them out. So there are there are there in those weeds, but it throughout the summer because those weeds create oxygen as well. So it's a good spot for them. Yeah, I've heard a lot of I've heard I've never heard of it before until this year like the whole bobber stop thing. Wait on a Texas Rig and I've haven't tried that yet. I need I need to try this still but I just heard about it this year. So I don't Texas Rig a whole lot of never had a whole lot of look out of it. But yeah, probably something I need to work on because it seems like it's a pretty big Staple in people's Arsenal. So yeah, I totally didn't make it one of my Texas Rig worms are one of my favorite things that throw on his really weedy. So like Berkeley Power Worm, that's probably my favorite but a lot of people like to throw the Cinco as well. So you throw one of those in the in the weeds and let it jerk through. You'll catch fish. I guarantee it. That's something like whenever I do throw a worm it's usually like a four-inch slider worm and it's on those little slider Jake. Do you know Slaughter? It's a tennessee-based company. That's not too terribly far from me. I don't know who they are. But it's the tennessee-based company. They're not too terribly far from me. But they got a like these little four inch worms and honestly, uh realtively had decent success out of that house right there. It's kind of blurry there. But yeah, I think that's that's the kind of looks like they're grubs. Yeah, it looks like a girl wouldn't let what I'm talking about. They actually have like a four-inch worm. Okay. They got a they got a color called motor oil glitter and I've had a decent amount of success on that. But uh back to the chatter base, we got a little off subject. What kind of trailer you put our you put a trailer on a ChatterBait or and if so, what kind yeah, I love throwing the z-man, you know, the the ChatterBait the z-man product. So I like to pair the z-man turbo Kroll with the z-man Chatterbait. In the that's that's been my go-to this year. I knew a lot of guys like to throw the razor shed or Chi Tech swimbaits as a trailer on the back of them, but I just can't I don't have any luck on those. So I don't throw them. I know my buddy. He he was fishing deep at the last term that we did and he was throwing the razor shed. He was letting that he was letting that uh, ChatterBait and razor-sharp. At seek all the way down to the bottom and then he would real slowly just bouncing along the bottom and that he was catching fish doing it that way too. But yeah that turbo Kroll that that's that's my favorite trailer for The ChatterBait. They would only have one ChatterBait that I bought right now. I need I need to buy some others and some different colors and stuff and I'll look into that turbo crawl whenever I do first our healer awesome. I think you only get four in a pack. But I mean those are their plastic is so tough man. You don't have to worry about it. I mean, yes, I've caught fish on Siemens. Yeah, they're Plastics are awesome. I love them. I've only ever own one z-man product or his phone or soft Plastics and and that was like some five or six inch worms. They were on discount at a at a place I was at and a bottle but I never really used them, but I left them in the toolbox of my truck and they just melt it. So I'm not sure if that's normal for cat in or like they were just I know whatever they use in their products. You're not supposed to mix with other Plastics because it'll just make it's like a chemical reaction I guess and they just melt together. So they tell you not to mix so I might have been anything because but what I don't do it so much anymore because I got a new one on one drive say I've got a I got a new way that I handled my my use dates like after I after I take them off the line actually got a magnetic tray now that I put a piece of Lincoln out right now. Anyways, it's attached to my kayak and whenever some type of bait off of my line changing babies and stuff. I just throw it in that magnetic tray and the sticks to that and stays in there. And so I pretty much just let him sit in there to dry and then I'll put them back my boss. Looks like later that night or the next day or something. But what I used to do was just throw them all in a pile of my kayak and then when I'm pulling my kayak Scout, I'll just pick them all up and put them in the little side tray of my toolbox on my truck and I think somehow those Z men's worms got in there and they might have been what happened right there because when I went back to get the stuff out and melted Yeah, I don't I don't know what it is, but they just don't play nice with other brands. It's kind of weird. Now that turbo Crow just so getting off the again for setting it at turbo crawl fishing like a football head jig or some like that. Do you use that for those two or do you got different priorities for that? No, you definitely can. I actually don't throw football heads very much. So I really don't have that much experience, but you definitely from go ahead. So let's go cuz I'm pretty much always have a football head jig Tad on the just because that early in my and I get some say my fish and careers not really career. But yeah early in a tie that became my comfort because that's what I was getting success with actually if you could see right behind the camera here is my whole said right here where I make my own home football head jig from you, but I've always use like a zoom Superchunk on them, but I want to try that turbo Caracas you hit the first person I've heard talk about it. So I do want to give that a shot. Yeah. They're cool, right? Yeah, I like him. That's that's all there is this. Well, you ain't the only one woman. There's quite a few people out there talk about it. Yeah. So in any other points you want to cover about the ChatterBait before we move on from that or boyfriend must cover it all I think that's it. It's just everything I've learned this year. I think I've basically shared with you. They're cool. And we always have you on again if you learn some more some more techniques with it that work and stuff. And yeah, yeah, and you won't go away. Yeah, if you always if you go out use them man, and then you start to figure them out to you can get always have some more input codes, right? yeah, I'm definitely going to try it but Let's move over to them to the river fishing. This is something I haven't done a whole lot of One one thing with the river fish around here. There's a lot of rivers. Will they called Rivers but they're pretty small and not much current it all like right down the road from me. Maybe a couple of miles is the Duck River. It's I think it gets like a little wider a little deeper and stuff on down but Port near me is real shallow. It's not a whole lot of current it's pretty narrow and went up when I think of a river I'm thinking of you. I've got a I've got family up in Evansville, Indiana and that's right on the Ohio River and the Ohio Ohio River right? There is huge. Yeah, really Wise It's got curb. Current and all that. So that's what I think of when I think of river. What what kind of rivers are you fishing? Are you fishing like these big Rivers like the Ohio River you fishing like the smaller ones like this close to me what I'm definitely more of a small small shallow River type guy little bit bigger than creaks. But you know, I mean definitely not the size of UI River because The river sighs man you're talking about. It seems like it'd be dangerous on a kayak. Yeah, you're talking you're talking about like deep deep water wide Rivers like a lot of traffic. I think of the Ohio River I compare it to like Lake Cumberland and stuff like that. So I mean, okay. I just wanted it Fisheries, but I just wanted to clarify. Yeah because you know this say, Minutes for news and I'm still quite a new myself. So I just wanted to clarify when people were talking about fishing rivers what exactly they're talking about. So you're talking about the more like smaller not a whole lot of not super fast current and shallower. It depends. It depends on what when you say fast because we have a river here in Ohio. It's It's not white at all. It's probably the width of a street maybe maybe a three or four Lane Street and it's called The Mad River and I found out why they call it the matter. It's a fast-flowing river. I mean, I don't know what makes it fast. But man it's not deep. It's probably two to three feet most of the way through with some deep holes throughout but yeah that river flows fast, but like the rivers. I fish occasionally occasionally you'll come across Riffles or the water shallows and then dumps. It dumps over like a waterfall type thing, you know, you know, I mean, yeah, and and then it deepens into a pool that those are the kind of rivers I fish. Okay. Yeah, I'm pretty sure we got some like similar rivers around here. Yeah, we got like I said Duck River. We got a there's the Harpeth River is pretty small. Stone River ain't too far away V. You know, it's a Well parts of Stone River, you know get a little bit bigger, but I'd say probably still safe for a kayak. I haven't actually put a kayak out there. I've been out there knows John bow, but but it's also got its narrower parts to it. Yeah, I have fish a little bit. But uh, so with fishing rivers foot. What are you Almost time re you offer to people paddle and up current and then just floating back. I've heard of people, you know, you go out with a buddy and they parked their truck down at this other boat ramp and then you put the kayaks in another boat ramp and just float down. So what how are you handling that most of the time during the week? I have a few honey holes. I like to hit so I'll park a park my truck and then I'll throw my kayak in in this spot. I'll paddle Upstream to the spot which is not far at all. That's kind of a pain. But because the river does flow a little quicker and that spot but I'll do that and then on the weekends when me and Justin and Josh get out, we will all meet out meet at the taken or not to take in the takeout load up load all of our gear into one truck and then we'll all go ride in the same truck up to the put in spot and then we'll put in their float down to the other two trucks and then when we're done We load up the gear and those two trucks and drive back to whoever is truck is at the put in and then unload their gear and load it into their truck and then we all go home. Is so so sounds like you do a little bit of both of those techniques there were yeah Alan upstream and coming back in a little bit of point A to point B. Yep. What's your favorite of that? Like, what do you prefer to do? Their I rather go point A to point B because I like to cover more water. Plus those trips usually take us around 7 hours. Maybe it depends on how many miles we go, but I'd say five to seven hours is Typical River float for us. I like doing those better. If the current is moving pretty fast, like the river you were talking about that that's moving pretty quick, you know, a lot of like finesse fish. Are you doing any finesse fishing on that? Because like I my thinking is You know, if you're doing finesse fishing, it's a lot slower fishing. And so you cast out and basically you're done gone by it before you're ready to even real in. Yeah, how do you how do you handle that? Those those quick areas like that? They're real really hard. But if they're shallow enough, I'll actually get out of my kayak and tie like a bungee. On my waist hooked onto my kayak and I'll just stand there and cast upstream and you know, like Let The Bait drift back towards me bouncing off the bottom and like not having any slack in the line. So I'll be real and constantly, you know, but but the bait will still be hitting hitting the Rocks along the bottom. That's usually how you'll catch fish in the summertime because those those River Smallmouth they like to they like to stay in that shallow fast water because there's more oxygen. There it is. I guess it's cooler water to I mean, yeah, it's that's just a real good like spot to go summer fishing. So I would never Overlook like a foot of water like raging fast water because there's gonna be fish there in summer time in the best something that I've learned this year to just from YouTube videos and podcasts and talking to people is you know, I've always kind of avoided, you know fast-moving. It just pooped because of that reason because like you're pushing your bait around you can't get it. Do you want to do and then discovered that you know, that's where the fish are quite a bit during the summer when it gets real hot because you know, that water is cooler. Yep. So that's some I got to keep in the back of my mind. Now whenever I do get out on rivers and stuff some fish out there in that corner. Yeah there. There's always spots to get off your kayak and Bank fish on those spots as well off the side of the river because when it's Rocky and she'll like you'll more than likely have like Rocky areas off the sides. You know what I miss not you know what I'm saying where you can fish off of it and just cast you always want to cast 45° upstream and then let it float down to sew it all so I'll go through this to the best bait to use in that kind of situation. Is just the grub or a swimbait on an 8 ounce jig head. So just let it bounce off the bottom the this those fish will attack it. I have to give that a try that yeah, you know. I usually you know, I've fished up here at the Duck River was the one that's maybe a couple miles away from me fish there a couple times since I had the kayak which I just started kayaking last year. So those couple times left drain been there none of this year and I've always kind of like man with with going there. It's basically in my head somewhere that you know, if I ain't got a whole lot of time Some you know, I'll go up there. Other than that. I'm going to like a like a large pond or a lake or a creek or something like that. Yeah. So yeah, I mean we not that far into this state when you are already making me want to go up there Henry Horton Park and getting the river. They're strapping. Yeah, I love the river man. And the Rivers like my second home. I rather fish the river then ND Lake in the nation. I mean, I truly believe that with my whole heart dude. I that's just me. I guess I have the Drew Gregory mentality. I just there's something about moving water. Like it just has you hooked on a wild waters as way like what he says, but I have the same mentality as him dude. I love it. It's a blast and well, I've only been fishing it for about Six or seven years. I mean the first couple years River fishing. It's definitely hard hard learning curve because coming from legs I grew up fishing lakes go switching over to Rivers man. It's just like the first few years. I fish the rivers. I was getting skunked all the time. I didn't know what was going on. So I just started reading and learning and watching all these videos and finally thank started click in and I just can't get enough of rivers. Now. I'm gonna have to get a little bit of that mentality and try it out because you know, if I could get a love for that River fishing to where I just love going up here to Duck River, they'd make it so much more convenient for me because I can drive, you know, five ten minutes up the road and yeah instead of because anywhere else for me is about like a 45-minute drive. So if I could just do that now same way with me. I live about an hour away from like four different major lakes in Ohio. So it's not worth it. Plus I'm probably we have three major rivers coming in downtown Dayton and I'm 10 minutes away from downtown Dayton some I got like four rivers to choose from in my area. It's the you're good there. Then you're in heaven. I firmly believe that the rivers in Ohio is some of the best fishing we have to offer in Ohio. Everybody else's fish in those Lakes quite a bit, but there were highly pressured. I don't very I don't see very many guys out on the river. So there's more for you. Yeah, actually enjoy it's awesome because there's not a whole lot of people that I've seen And out there at Duck River in the part that I'm in now, if you go on down the river a little bit, you'll see more fishermen thing. It gets deeper were people start putting in boats, but I'd be scared for anybody that puts in a boat up here. Yeah. I've seen it. I've seen people do it though. I we were fishing through Northern Dayton one time and the guy just came up through these riffles on a jet boat right between me and my me and Justin. and We just looked at each other like what the heck we've never seen that on the river. He just blew right through these riffles. Like wow. That was awesome. Well, you know if he slowed down and he had probably bought him out. So he had to just keep it Full Throttle. Yeah, that's true. It's crazy though. One thing I did want to go back and touch on and you talked about like how did you were did you say like like holes like yeah deeper holes and now This maybe is stupid question I guess but is that a good spot to try to find fish head when it gets hot in the summertime? Yeah. So yeah, go ahead. I was just going to say because in that there's like a canoe and kayak launch of appear at you know, we got Henry Horton State Park up here. And that's the part of Duck River that I'm talking about. And there's a canoe and kayak launch right there. And when you go down there, it's only like knee-deep water. But if you go straight across from from the canoe and kayak launch, there's there's a hole there. I don't know how deep it is. I've basically waited all the way across that river right there. And and I just I saw that whole I didn't try to test how deep it was. But I've always wondered like a wondered in that deeper spot and you know, there's fish hiding down in there. Yes. So is that area right next to fast current or like yeah her current. Okay, and then that right after this hole right down through this whole it gets kind of Swift for just because it the River Narrows right there. And so the water gets kind of with right after that whole okay, so the hole is it like kind of like being slack water then I'm guessing. I think right about there's where it's starting to get faster because it's right there where it's starting to get narrow. He's all that water is trying to force itself down there all to get at all the same time. So it's I don't think it's quite a fat ass. Yeah, but it's starting to move a little little faster right there. Okay. It might hold fish. I mean It's deeper and it's above a riffle. I know above riffles. There's there always be fish right above riffles to so you always want to hit that before you go through riffles if you're on a kayak, so trying to think here trying to best best way to describe it, you know, if there's current flowing Downstream and then you got like a little it's kind of like current bouncing off of like a Rocky Point and then it causes like right Slow-moving water or non moving water right next to yes in water. That's typically spot all year round for fish. So you'll want to you want to fish that where those two pieces those two bodies of water meet the current and the slow movement moving water. It's called a seam fish like the stack up there because food shoots right through there like a conveyor belt. They just jump out and grab it and then go back into the slow-moving water. So that's always a good place to fish will see probably two or three years ago. I actually went down to this same river pretty close to the same area. And you know, there's like like a point on the line that goes out and you know, it's pretty good moving current at this little spot here and the current is going down then you got land coming out here and then behind where that land is it's real. Home back there now one out there in like February or March 1 year just Bank fist took one or two poles and and not knowing this information that you're giving me here. Just you know, like I said, I only like fishing faster water. I like fishing slow water like right there base where you just described I called thing. I caught two fish right there on a jig. Yeah, so I guess that was kind of a luck of the draw there. But now I know to actually look for that for that type of thing. I always hit those areas all throughout the year because I know they're always be fish there no matter what unless it's super cold in those fish condense and then, you know go to their winter holes for the which I know nothing about. I cannot catch fish in the winter time on the river for nothing so well, but well maybe I can get somebody maybe I can get somebody to do an interview for me too. When it gets a little cooler about catching catching fish in the wintertime on a river and then you know, you can listen to this segment and you can learn something from it to ya what I'm always learning man. That's why we say we're we're tall always learning something, you know, some of us got a lot more to learn than others such as may but it's something else. Talking about with Brian on interview I did with him on before I came over here to paddle and spin when I still doing my own podcast, as you know, you even hear from the professional fisherman that they're they're still constantly learning new stuff and really, you know, when you think about it, that's something that you got to do you if you want to keep catching fish, you've got to keep learning new stuff new baits are like new little words. Is going to come out and if they work they're going to be popular and then eventually fish are going to get used to that and they're not going to be as effective anymore. And then other lures that have been neglected and haven't been used as much they're going to start, you know, being what what get hit and you know, it's just never ending cycle there. Yeah fish gets get smart to a certain popular technique. So we're always learning something but should be anyway. So yeah, definitely agree with that. So try to think we covered everything with with River fishing for the most part. That's basically the basics. I mean faster moving current and water or in the summertime. So where you find Smallmouth and fishing those seams, man. Oh and the Eddies you never want to forget the Eddies, you know where you have a current coming in hit in the bank and it's pushing water backward. Upstream you ever single code? Yeah. Yeah. They're always be fish there. That's always a good spot. It just kind of like trap the fish in there like a I like I don't know exactly. I just know it creates more curved don't know the science of it. I guess it just like mixes the bait up in there and it's just easy food form. Yes, and you know you you tell them about small male, you know? No, I know we have a small mouth down here. But and it may be Smallmouth fishing maybe a bigger thing than I know about but it seems like everybody I talk to about bass fishing some a large mouth down here. So these techniques that they should still work for largemouth, right? They should Our Rivers up here. We don't have very many large mouth in our Rivers. So I'm not quite 100% percent sure, but I know I've probably caught only a handful of large mouth on a rivers over the years and it seems like they've always came off of really slow areas of current where it does doesn't look like the water's moving at all, but you're moving probably Half a half a mile an hour, you know what I'm saying, but they'll be hanging they'll be hanging around what what you would think they would be hanging around in a lake like down trees and under shade just stuff like that and sit that's what I'm going for because that's what I know. Like I said, I don't Smallmouth fishing could be a bigger thing than I know about down here, but it seems like everybody's talking about large mouth down here in Tennessee. That could be your guys Lakes though, too. I mean you guys like sit down there or amazing. I don't know if they as that's what I hear. I haven't had much luck. And I know you mentioned Percy Priest early. I've heard a bunch of good stuff about that leg. So yeah, man Percy priests. I'm actually where L work ahead. Well, we're like maybe 10 15 minutes down the road from it. So, can you hear me? All right. I think you kind of froze up on my screen for a second. So I wouldn't you that's coming through. But yeah, it's like 10 or 15 minutes away from From where I work at so like there's been several times where I'm like hmm. I wonder if my wife would let me load up my kayak and take it out there after work one day and keep I just want your I haven't really yeah, but I haven't really been in on Percy prison since I've been in a kayak too much. I've been in Stuarts Creek which comes off Percy Priest You know, that's actually one of my main spots that are like to go to in the car is Stewart's Creek. But uh You know, I'm I'm still learning. I don't really know where to find the Fizz like springtime summertime. Yeah, well like with whether they should be up in the lake whether it should be in the creek itself. So but I do want to get out there on the lake more. I finally upgraded my kayak this year and last year. Like I said was my first year kayak fishing and I'm just a buddy. I had bought a pelican Salinger 100 and he had it about a month and he's a taller dude and he wouldn't feel comfortable on it. So he bought him a another kayak and so I bought that from him and that's what I was fishing on all last year and part of this year up until June and I finally upgraded to a Vibe seagulls 130. So now I got something little sturdier little more comfortable. So I feel a little better about getting out on those big legs. Lakes with with bigger boats, you know creating wake and stuff. So I definitely want to get out there and try that sometime. Well heck man. There's a kid on YouTube goes by the name of Owen Chamberlain. I don't know if you heard of him his home lake is Percy Priest. I if I were you I'd get on there and watch his videos man because he he's always on they're catching fish. Nice ones, too. I need to check him out because he can't be too far away. I might even be able to convince them into let me go with them sometime. Yeah, so he I mean, he's he's a good fisherman. I don't I don't think I've heard the name. There's a chance I might have saw video of them not know who it was for something but I'm I'll definitely look into that. I think we pretty much covered everything. I was want to talk about you think of anything else that you know, you're wanting to cover about now anchors are chatter, but I guess I can go through my favorite riff debates real quick. Hey suit, we're talking about River fishing. Let's let's let's figure out what's working on the river. Yeah. So like I said earlier I've gotten away from it, but three To grow up on an 8 ounce jig head that always seems to work. I've been using the z-man Finesse TRD quite a bit on the net head this year. I've been I've been getting a lot of successful even in quick water too. So that's been a good one. Of course topwater. I like to throw the buzzbait try try Wing striking buzzbait and the Whopper plopper, of course the Whopper plug or let's see Become one of my favorite lures right there. It's a good one. Peace. It's a good River bait dude. I did it if you find Rocky Banks steep Rocky banks with like current moving throat. And your those Banks. You'll catch fish. I guarantee it. I'll definitely I'm definitely going to have that in my plain old box whenever I hit a river. It's kill people people give it such a hard time to man for somebody that Had a hard time catching fish at all. It's really done me some good. Oh, yeah, who cares man? Who cares? What others say use whatever. Yeah long as you're catching fish, you know, exactly it's no different than a buzzbait my mind, so, It's whatever it does have have some similarities to a buzzbait. Yeah other let's bait don't float. It's whatever who cares what other guys say, man. As long as your have Gale there and your MP3s, you know, it ain't Cheatin. So there's no harm in using it a lot. I ain't ashamed of it. You know, I was going to say to you we're talking about earlier. They make like some scrubs. I might have to get a hold of some. Rules and and let you try those out since you've never heard of or used to slaughter, you might have to get a hold of some of those and get them to you. See see what you think about but these Tennessee lures for his Tennessee soft Plastics. That would be awesome. Actually. I mean, it'd be perfect for the final cast product review segment that we have going on right now too. So I didn't think about that that that would be a pretty good idea. I might have to get in contact with us. Wider. Yeah, see if they see if they want to get some reviews going on them. Get them a little more know which they they are a pretty well-known company from what I've seen and might be mainly just here in Tennessee. They're known pretty well, but They put they put out some good products that I like. So yeah, we might have to reach out to them about the product review. Yeah, that'd be awesome. But I guess we can start to wrap it up here. Sounds good. Let's see here. Let's go through. Through some sponsors here. we got Say we got rock Town Paddlesports Loveland canoe and kayak and get hammered. Lures Cal OT sunglasses Sweetwater Brewing Company fish mob lures Southern Lake KO, myo, kayak Anglers and the Recycled Plastics. That's what the plastic recycling program that you know, you always hear from Brian and them. Yes. Save all your new soft last and you know. Send them to to hammered lures address will be in the show notes for you. But I think I covered everything there. You don't sound good to be. All right. Well, I appreciate you coming on here and and sharing your knowledge with ChatterBait Sand River fishing and all that good stuff and a problem and for any. Any listeners that there's going to be listeners from the pedal and finco podcast that probably never heard of me or the podcast I was doing which I wasn't real big yet pretty much just started. But yeah, I had my own podcast before I was asked to move the segment over here, but for any of my listeners that didn't know paddle and Finn before I Over here to join them you can you can catch Bread on Fridays him in a prank Johnny you doing tournament Recaps and stuff? Yep. They put out some pretty interesting stuff. You know that got it to where all five days of the week got something coming out on paddle and fin down so it's really cool a lot of information being put out there a lot of There's a lot of knowledge and experiences and all kinds of stuff that I just really like what paddling fin is becoming and I'm glad to be a part of it. Yeah, man. I am too. It's awesome. Yeah, so I guess tight lines and smooth paddling with see y'all.
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