What are the numbers talk about another episode hyper he was here and hide forever power go. This is probably the most DC Centric episode. We've done in a very very very long time because as many people like to point out we talk a lot about Marvel. Well, yeah, it was an opportunity to talk about something else. Here you go. And there it is. Very very very very special guests. It is my fault that we have not had this person on before because he's been wanting to be on our show for a while. He watches he's asked he's out.The window with a sign like Charlie Factory like you guys you guys can see there's a giant window on the side of Andre every week has been right out there. Just rubbing the glass. You know, you love them Andre Meadows is he? Thank you so much. How you doing? Thanks for having me on of course on this very special episode. Yeah. So excited. It's a very special it is because you're here it is. That's what and I'm sure guess would be like, I'm sure guess we'll be like, oh, it's a very special episode because hackers not here. Yeah. Oh no. It doesn't guitar Pickers and respect but so excited to have you here. We were just talking about how like we are. Well, I'm trying you're doing you're actively doing adjusting our life to an East Coast schedule because of all the trailers and use that comes out Central at the most. I'm not that easy just yet. But yeah, I like this these past few weeks because you know, you got the frozen's. Yeah, it's coming out of those family films out there. You got the Star Wars coming out like this is Trailer on slot for the past couple weeks. So it's like I was saying that it's a friend of mine who just limit been texting me every morning. I've called in my wake up call now. They're just like every other morning like 17 Scooby-Doo trailers out. Okay. Yep sound trailers out. Okay. Yep cats trailers out Evelyn. All right, let's go. Let's go go. Oh man. 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Uh session every time now for a lot of our videos I have to go in and edit in clips of Iron Man and Captain America saying language language and my I might slip up I might let him fly home. But yeah, it's been crazy and like, you know, at least for my social media I try to go out there and Try to talk about trailers that are not just related superheroes or Star Wars. I try to do as much as I can about things that I'm passionate about and it is hard because at 5:30, I'll see notifications. I'm like, I want just an hour more of sleep, please. That's a weird thing to say was snowman who got me hyped man because I got so mad. I got some I did some deep dive and I just don't like investigating. Yeah, man, you know, there's a new universe coming all I got that's what I'm feeling. That's what I'm doing. Okay, I'm excited. You're cool. But you know Scooby-Doo that's up on the laff-a-lympics. I grew up on them the Yogi's Arc. Okay, so I'm ready for that Universal return. It's gonna be good. 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We'll talk about but should we just get into let's get into it is good. That's gonna do it. So the first thing we're going to talk about that. I'm I think you know, I'm excited for the Batman movie. I think a lot of people are excited for the Batman movie Matt Reeves, who's the director has been announcing some amazing casting and what we got to do we got so we got got patents of yes. Okay, so then because there was there was some there like legit and there was all the rumor was. Yeah. So all the ones that are confirmed our Robert Pattinson is Batman. Yes, Zoe Kravitz as Catwoman Riddler get cast. Yeah the Riddler, it's Danno. Paul Dano, that's right. All they know is Edward Edward an Ashton. Okay, Jeffrey Wright as Commissioner Gordon. Yes, and it was someone who was cast but they didn't say who it was. Well, they've been talking about there was one. Yeah, there was one actor. Who was it? Who was it? Who was it? There was someone who was like rumored? Yeah and but it hasn't been confirmed yet. Andy Serkis is Alfred. Yes, and then that is legit that isn't it and the newscasting is John Turturro as per my Falcone, which is character. We haven't seen since the Knight trilogy. Yeah, he had a prominent role in the Batman in Batman Begins and then sort of the Fallout of that movie. We got to explore Through The Dark Night not so much The Dark Knight Rises, but mostly in the dark night. Yeah. I am very excited for this casting because as much as I love Tom Wilkinson, Tom Wilkinson is very British very much not Italian-American and John Turturro is so I may see italian-americans Italian-American. Sonny was Latino. I thought he was I thought so too and I looked it up. I'm like, oh, he's Italian how okay. Okay. Well we did a good job. Whoever whatever ethnicity he played in The Big Daddy was that game? Very sneaky said oh, yeah, baby. So I'm excited to see this character again. And it really seems like just kind of what we've heard about the the movie and what Comics it's kind of pulling from long Halloween is seems like it's going to be very mobster Centric and it's also going to revolve around of the bigger DC Villains, right? We've heard Rumblings of things like the Ian we obviously know Catwoman Edward Ashton, which will probably end up, you know, we'll see the Riddler and I've heard also Rumblings of other other characters. Do you think it's going to be a thing where it's gonna be like a Gotham misc type thing where it'll be like you'll see some of these characters some of them might be full-blown as their villain side or some might just be will this the character right now, but they might be leading up to something in the future. I think I think that's a very much a possibility especially when Matt Reeves tweets out Edward gnashed in and he doesn't say the Riddler. Yes, right? Yeah, right. So I That's I think that's a very high possibility and probability and I think it's kind of a really great way to come in and do a Batman movie and not have to worry about setting up every single character. Yeah, George. I think that's the Cena Yeah. I think that would be a neat idea to be like establishing the world in these characters are already in that world. Absolutely. You don't know at what point right will like it like whatever nature is exactly if you just set them up as a character. You don't know is he gonna come to Riddler this movie? Right? He just now in that world so that the next movie he becomes a real like it can be for some great surprises. I'm not going which Village Alan goes full on or which one's team up at which time and right, you know, if you're into that whole Catwoman think of like, will she be nice when she died? Yeah. I really like that idea a lot and you know more recently in the comic books Catwoman has been more of an ally to Batman. Yeah and not so much an enemy and we've never really got to explore that we explored on Gotham quite a bit but cinematically that's never really been the case The Dark Knight Rises I think is the closest thing that's sort of like made the commitment of like Selena Kyle and Bruce Wayne are a It's right, but I would love to see a little bit of dealing with the past of what those characters are being, you know adversaries and talk. They would probably in this movie probably discussed that and then in you know in the next movie, we definitely have more of a solidified sort of like Alli relationship. You mean with Batman and Catwoman and Catwoman. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that would make sense to me. I'm just kind of I'm borderline kind of on this just because we have seen other movies that have Too many villains in it. Sure. You're just like dude. That was you should have taken away Sandman and Venom and just focus on but goblin or yeah, you know what? That's the same with those it was like it was very established. Right? You're you're saying Mandeville because that's been the superhero movie way to do ya the big draw is like who's that new villain this level thing if this is an idea of like maybe it's just sitting up to these characters in this world, right? So that everyone has to go full Villain at a specific time like like Spider-Man 3, but yeah if what if you know, Eddie Brock never Came to like very very very very end. Teeth like the next time then it'd be like, okay, it makes sense. Why you established him now, right? So then do it for the next one but for happen, or you could do kind of Arkham the Arkham video game style. Yeah where they're just they're yeah, they're already a supervillain team and they're ready to take down Batman no matter what have you done with that to buy just and with that we some of these characters. I mean there's there's different ones are doing right now, but a lot of them are iconic so it could be one of the things I like they're just already there already there. They're already here and going back. To John Turturro. Yeah, I'm glad that he's got cash because he's done. He's a great actor. He's done a lot of work. Yes, but every time his name comes up, I just think about Bumblebee peeing on him about about him being underneath Devastator scrotum. So it's gonna be nice. I feel you there man. I don't know. Yeah, and I think a lot of people who are coming from Transformers because we know this I mean I especially like whenever I talk about whenever I see people's like hot takes on superhero movies and how like either terrible they are or how incredible they are. I'm like, you do realize that there's a whole other world of Cinema out there that exist where there's actually like. Yeah great movies. Yeah and a lot of these actors who you think are like terrible right are actually like really good and movies that are really good quality. Right? And I feel like yeah because most people who are sort of like into the things that like we're mostly into they might only know John Turturro from Transformers. No, no, please for the love of God go back and look at that Transformers run and then that box office everyone talks that smack but check the numbers Transformers and Ice Age made Bank. Oh, yeah. Yeah, and I'm excited for Carmine Falcone because we got to see a little bit of that criminal underworld in Batman Begins. And by the time we got to the Dark Knight Carmine Falcone was just in Arkham Asylum and the third movie it's eight years, so it's set yet. Years after the dark night, so we don't it's the story just completely transitions it as something different which is totally fine. But I for these Matt Reeves movies and I would imagine that someone who's done the Apes movies and there's been such a consistency from movie to movie. I would imagine that if he's going to set up all these things like the crime the crime families of Gotham City and all these villains. It's going to be 2 hopefully our have a consistency throughout the whole thing. So that like any filmmaker who potentially jumps in after the third movie if he does a whole trilogy They have a lot of things from mine from that. He's been now been setting up for years a you feel of his building a really good foundation for anybody else to jump off of I think so, I would agree with that because there's so many people in here and it's not just like, oh we have random actor be as the penguin or whatever. It's it's a person that we were going to know and probably have a lot of attachment to so I it bodes well, but also we haven't seen anybody pull off like Mega villain team movie yet. Yeah, and this is Hoping it is like I have high hopes that this is going to be that Sinister Six that they promised us a while ago. Yeah where it's badass villains almost taking down Batman and Batman being even more badass and you can everybody that yeah. I know we've talked a lot about I mean I've even talked about it myself the years about like, oh this movie has too many villains in it. But then I remember even when like with the Marvel movies going on was like well, is there a point we to be too many Heroes and I'm still at this point like no. No, I'm all right. Yeah. So I feel like yeah, we are at that point now like well, we got this these franchises have these great robes. Rogues Gallery, that's great right villains at what point can we see them all together? Because when you're reading a comic or when you're watching the animated series or anything like that, like that's always a great moment. Yeah. I'm just seeing like these characters are together and I get why the past they were always want to keep them separate for each movie. Yeah, but I think we're now at that point. Yeah, I called it up or even if some like hey, we said establish this let's make a Catwoman movie now. I can't look good one, right exactly how they could just take that cat with you that basketball scenes. I'm just one yes to basketball basketball. We're Playing Basketball, it's an and one video of did almost. Okay, just trust people. Oh my god, there will always be a soft spot in my heart for that Halle Berry can't speak bad of it because there's always a special place but I think you're there there there there hanging out while while while Daredevil an electrified the other side of the playground. It's / Marvel and DC on the respective sides. Yeah, but I think you're totally right. So I think if we can get to the point where we're Avengers, A game has like 20 something Heroes and obviously not all of them were main characters, but but Infinity Ward did a great job of like going from like character character character. Oh, yeah, I think they're absolutely is an opportunity, especially because Batman has I think Batman and Spider-Man are like neck and neck for the greatest Rogues Gallery. Yeah, and I think because those those villains are so rich and they have so much to offer this universe. I think it would be an amazing opportunity to do what you're saying and introduce all of them and I don't think all of them need to Play Central roles, right? I think you can sort of like how they do in engagement Infinity War. You have ebony maw you have you know corvus glaive you have Proxima midnight, but they're all like they all have their own purpose. Right? And I think it's okay for your character. Exactly. Yeah, and I think like characters like Riddler and Catwoman. I think our women will end up being more Central than some of the other villains. But yeah, I don't think that every single one of them needs to have equal screen time. They all got to have a specific role in the movie. Like look at something like Civil War like that's that story is about Tony and cap. Yeah, but introduce black panther an amazing way into Spider-Man an amazing way. So I feel like if you can flip that script and do that same thing with villains or maybe you know is Falcone or someone else the main villain, but I still have these little side things if there's always things like you can't do to get it can always be done exactly since tablets, right if it's set up right can be done and I think this could be again one of those ways that DC is we're seeing a lot of Things like that can be there. Yeah hook there we go. Yes, you got all these Heroes over there. That's cool. We got all these villains over here. You know, we've done so many iterations of Batman. Yeah, I think General audiences and fans. Obviously, we know who Batman is really really well at this point. Yeah, but I think General audiences. Yeah, I think it's a great opportunity to introduce us to their version of The Riddler right there version of Catwoman Falcone the penguin to face Mr. Freeze so many yeah, I want to see all those I want to See all those villains done. Right? And I want audiences to connect with and not necessarily to be empathetic to them. But to just understand who they are and and the threat they pose to glatman and why he does what he does. But yeah, I read I've been reading a lot of DC Comics recently and there's one that came out this week called Von fries and it's a little bit of a unique take on. Mr. Freeze. We're really explores how Victor Fries was a child of World War II and how he sort of gets like Him and his dad have a clashing relationship with so he his dad's best friend, they end up working together and because his dad ends up becoming part of the part of the SS this like friendship that he has with this with his partner in the chemistry lab or in the lab it kind of falls apart and it sort of changes Victor freezes trajectory in life. He ends up becoming friends with Thomas Wayne. He's there for the birth of Brews. Okay. So there's like a lot of like different ways more than trying to yeah origin of rather. And just like a random guy who happened to get us. It's a little not it's not completely similar but there's a little bit of like a Magneto backstory to it. You're like thinking. Oh that can those are ways to make the character empathetic like Nora Fries ends up being someone that was part of the family that he was kind of adopted into and so that that's how they end up being together. So there's like really fun twists and turns that I think you can do with these villains that we've never seen before. Yeah, I think would be really interesting and fun. Yeah, I agree. I'm just going to talk the rest of the episode. Like like it doesn't do it like dr. Free or mr. Freeze from the Animated Series some ice, you know, that's the sorts of negative one. The one in the animated. How are ya very much like that doesn't work. No, but I mean come on who doesn't I actually was reading that comic book as Schwarzenegger. I couldn't help myself wait the old-school Iceman as in the Schwarzenegger voice or mr. Freeze not comic book. I was reading his character has Mr. Freeze. I was like, this is amazing. This is so good. All right, please come with me come with me. If you want to live. Come on island quickly get to the chamber Thomas. We have delivered that baby. Come on quickly. What eyes? All right, you got your money's worth. Okay, we killed that one little that makes it John Turturro great choice. Yes good choice really good at the say. I'm also excited to like every Friday feels like we get something like cool. Thank you for giving us news to talk about on this show. Otherwise we come out June 25th. 20 21. Okay. So at this point I feel like are we going to get like a casting announcement every week until the movie probably for the next 18 months are going to be guessing. I'm excited though. I can't wait Barista. Number two. You'll be played by get from it'll be the best. I cannot wear. It turns out that's what about Superman. So yeah, I think there's been a lot of Not misunderstanding, but I think because Henry Cavill is someone who is not necessarily going out there and saying exactly what the status is of his role as Superman or how he feels about the Snyder cut or how he feels about Warner Brothers and this and this a lot of people have been assuming well, like now he's done he's done. He's done playing Superman. Yeah and look whatever's happening behind the scenes it very well could be that he is done playing Superman at least to the studio, but maybe there's also a version of this where Henry Cavill is kind of waiting for the right moment. Strike and to go to Warner Brothers and say Hey, I want to do this and maybe it's a Superman movie. Maybe it's the Superman vs. Black Adam. Maybe it's a Superman Shazam team up. Maybe it's another Batman Superman movie. We don't really know but he just did an interview with Men's Health and there's a couple things that he says that I think are very very interesting. The first of which is saying the Cape is still in the closet. It's still mine. I love that and that always makes me feel good so good. Thing is we comic fans mostly know him as Superman and I think a lot of people are going to watch Witcher when it comes out on Netflix and I think I think of him as the guy who cocks his biceps before you kick. Somebody's or us for me. I'm like, I mean, I've known Henry Cavill for a long time but like his role Mission Impossible Fallout is so good and not movies. Every time I see Christopher McQuarrie announcing a casting thing. It's like Matt Reeves on Mike. Let's go. Oh, you're gonna put you going to put bomb coming teeth in this movie's gonna put Hayley Atwell this movie Parts go. Oh, I'm in I'm in oh my God. Yeah, but if yeah, it was going to be Mission Impossible both of them seven and eight breaking news. Anyway, I'm sorry. I told you yeah, it was interesting. He kind of did like a more or less like a really quick recap of what he thought about the three movies that he's been in Man of Steel. He says a great starting point. If I were to go back, I don't think I'd change anything for me personally. There's a couple things that I think I would personally change why like, I'm not the rack director or the actor so If you love it, awesome, I'm glad you're happy about that. Batman vs. Superman very much a Batman movie. And I think that Realm of Darkness is great for a Batman movie. We'll leave that there Justice League. It didn't work. I think before I mean, you know Justice League is such an interesting Beast actually just re-watched our spoiler review of Justice League. Yeah, and obviously acknowledging like everything that kind of went into the Beast that is Justice League and how changed hands and all that sort of stuff. Yeah for me personally. I really like Henry Cavill as an actor. He talked about how a man of Man from Uncle was the thing that really got him Mission Impossible in The Witcher and I know there's probably a lot of people who didn't go out and see that movie. I really liked it. Okay, I really like Man from Uncle. It allowed him to be very Charming very action-oriented very funny. And so I think that really showed and Christopher McQuarrie talks about this. It really showed him how we could how he hasn't been getting the opportunity to stretch a lot of the acting muscles that he does possess. Well, I was going to say that and then also the same thing applies to Superman and so yes, it's Didn't work because you set up Man of Steel and and you know, there's some things feel about that and I but I feel like it was definitely a starting point. Yeah, that's yeah that's going to be and then just all of a sudden it's like we're going to go Batman it which was even that was like, okay, you know that makes sense as a good story in itself. Yeah, but then it was like well now we also got to establish the Justice League. We got us and we got a fast track this and I'm curious you know, that no matter what you think about those movies. Yeah positive or negative. I'm curious what it would be like if we we got a man of steel to like right away. We got the Dark Night exactly. What if we got this the sequel to Man of Steel so we could have been able to further explore what what they were going with what the plan may be what it is right before this other are other assets. Yeah, I agree with so what I mean, does he address that in anything else that he said Adam or I mean he talks about sort of like not addressing the surrounding. So I'll just read the quote that he talks about in this and it kind of gives you a little bit of an idea of like what his thought is About Superman the character. He says I'm not just going to sit quietly quietly in the dark as all the stuff is going on. I've not given up on the role that there's a lot that I have to give her Superman yet. A lot of the story. There's a lot of Storytelling to do a lot of the real true depths to the honesty of the character. I want to get into I want to reflect the comic books that's important to me. There's a lot of Justice to be done for Superman. The status is you'll see God that makes me so happy that makes my heart happy because to me and honestly, His this is just my wild speculation. I have a feeling he watches our show if you're not there. What's up? I said some stuff online where I'm just like that sounds really close to what we've said you guys and your you know, whatever not saying that he does watch but I'm just saying but I love his book dying devotion Margot Robbie has watched our stuff. He has watched starts. He recognized Hector that's they watch their trailer - for birds of prey shear and I'm like, you're a little because outside of the realm of possibility that Henry Cavill and other people DC of right some exactly but what about Love his undying devotion because we keep talking about and like I can get choked up. Sometimes talking about all the good that that Superman represents like everything. He's the beacon of what we all should strive to be and Henry Cavill gets that he understands and he knows the heart of Superman it and then just seeing his pictures like on his Instagram where he'll use like a Superman doll slowly bringing up he rides motorcycles. Yo, his helmet has print the comic book prints of Superman all over it like it's Not super in your face, but it's just subtle sermon every where he lives and breathes this stuff and if there's anybody who I entrust with saying something like this and also with the future of Superman, it's it's this man right here. He embodies it which is makes me so happy to hear all of this that he's saying yeah, I can't gush enough about that. I mean, you know, it's been almost 10 years since he's been cast he was cast I think in like April or June 2010, so it's almost been 10 years that he has. Like own the custodianship of this character and there's a part of me than like there's a lot. I really like about Man of Steel. Yeah, but they are definitely elements like what you were saying Andre, there's elements that were put in sequels that took away from Superman and the pivotal role that he has not just in the movies, but like in the DC Universe, yeah, like the whole DC Universe was birthed out of the existence of Superman, right and I feel like the movies have Not necessarily like leaned into that and I get it like they reckoned it. So now Wonder Woman is like the oldest hero. Yeah now with the existence of characters like Shazam and Black Adam and we'll talk about it later the Justice Society. There's going to be characters that might even like predate predate Wonder Woman. Yeah, but well, I guess I'm technically not because she's I mean, she's a yeah, she's soshe second, whatever. Yeah, it doesn't in any case but I mean like my biggest thing is always been like Batman Superman and Women are the cornerstones of the DC Universe if those three work if your other movies are not hits but they like mostly work by Batman Superman Wonder Woman are still like thriving then you've kind of one in my book. Yeah, but if I'm not sold on Superman and I'm not sold on Batman, but I'm sold on Wonder Woman great you like. Yeah, at least you have one building block done and like Ben Affleck's done. So like yeah the future of the DC films Batman who's in this Continuity is still a question mark right but if beneifts Henry Cavill is hopeful and he's very passionate passionate about right giving us more when it comes to Superman and the Arc of the character and what he represents and wants to tell more stories. Yes, give it to him at him in there get him to play Superman again and we put him in coach and putting aside like whatever this new Batman wasn't there all that. I mean the way that it's done we're going just on the movies made already. I mean You could easily do another story. I mean, he's here. He's last seen Running With The Flash. Yeah, Justice League. So like if you want to do a Superman, you know, and of course you have that that's just I am thing right which he said he was going to do that. Yeah, he's talking about how he wanted to do it, but he couldn't because of his schedule with Mission Impossible, right? So that's why they got to stand so so yeah, so you could definitely say if we want to make another Standalone Superman movie go right now and then it also you in a weird way through all this you kind of have an interesting setup. Up of like yeah, he was dead. Yeah, he came back came back pretty hard and then like now as you know, supposedly all good again. And so you know, how is how is the world dealing with that? You know, what what are some you know what villain was already like Superman's gone. I can do my thing and now he's back off man now, okay, I got to up my game like there's so many different ways that you can approach that perhaps I just person I would love I would love to see another Superman movie with him. I agree. Someone who loves Superman gotta be him together and to see to see what the what the concept is. See what happens when you take everything else out that was there right? Nothing gets anything of it, but just like just putting that aside for a second focus on something to go there because yeah because if we've seen anything about any of the movie definitely look at Aquaman, yeah, Zam Joker no matter how he was exactly where how much you thinking about them. They were able to do their story with as little of a connected like like Aquaman. It was just like you did that thing with Steppenwolf the truth of it all. Whatever exams like here's a reference here, there don't joke is like I ain't with them but they've been able to tell their story. Yeah without having to do all those connections. I'm curious. I think she's am did it incredibly? Well, I mean, you're referencing so much stuff and it's like you're doing it through different characters in like their enthusiasm and like they're hardcore like fandom for those characters without actually having to have them in there. Yes, we have that Cameo for Superman by like to me that's a perfect way to do those sorts of things. Isn't that what you want though? Because Batman or sorry Superman is a Of the people. Yeah, you want to hear those stories coming from them rather than like I need it. I don't need to hear it from Superman's mouth every time how much people love him and I think also like a character like Shazam without the inspiration of having a Superman in your Universe. I don't know how well that character kind of right? I don't know. I don't know if that hopefulness and inspiration works for character like Shazam. If you don't already have Superman in that Universe because that's the thing that inspires it right. He's the role model exactly and I totally understand like Warner Brothers kind of wants to Pivot they want to focus on diverse. Jurors and all that sort of stuff and I'm 100% for that. But I also think that the cornerstones of your Universe still have to work in order for agree General people to kind of buy into it. Yeah, because really gotta think about that. It's such a that time with an interesting time because one you're making mayonnaise deal and you just had the success with the Nolan Batman movies so over the course, of course, your brain is going to go do the same things like that just make sense. And then the process of making that movie you get something like Avengers showing up. It's like oh that's what John won't now. All right, let's do that. Yeah, so it seems kind of weird because I think the timing of it is almost kind of interesting for sure if man is still came out the same time alongside like Nolan Batman movies. Yeah, it probably had time to grow if it came out after this Cinematic Universe. Everyone's running as you do I think he was able to plan this out but I feel like it was his weird move because you watch that movie we watch made of steel. Yeah. Yeah. There's a Wayne satellite, but no one ever watch that movie. First going. Oh, this is starting something. Yeah known are bad. Literally. Yeah ends with Sam Jackson going we starting something there is nothing like that in Man of Steel you like this is a good movie. They straight up in your way. I know right? I feel it's a weird things. I know everyone makes their jokes and I've made jokes and well about DC but like I always have this feeling inside me like did Mana still get a bad rap because just because of when it was time, I mean cuz well, yeah, it was a weird. It was a kind of a superhero and betray literally came out one year after Avengers and The Dark Knight Rises both came out. Yeah. Yeah. You're right. You're right. You're absolutely right just because the movie landscape at that point was constantly changing Avengers was doing the whole Marvel Cinematic Universe was doing new things. Ooh things that people didn't know they wanted and specifically with Avengers because like yes, everyone's all like a Marvel has been killing it before they got two Avengers. Yeah, we're doing fine. But it was yeah, but they weren't doing that. Well, they were still kind of see the stand-alones. It wasn't until that happened and that sort of solidified. Yeah that theme park ride if you will so some might some might say that that that that was like, okay. Well, that's the new thing. Like I said before that it was looking at Something like the number one reason going. Well, that's what you gotta do. Sure. I don't know. I just I don't know. You're absolutely right like a weirdly. I just wonder what would have happened if that came out of different year. You're right. I think that's really right. Yeah. I think you're a hundred percent. Right and I think the Nolan verse and the Marvel Cinematic Universe were like and I hate saying it because like I like I love both. Yeah, but I think like they were a blessing and a curse for Man of Steel yaps, right because they may Man of Steel because it was like, oh, it's a Christopher Nolan things. We got to make in the tone of the Dark Knight and then Avengers comes out. It's like great when I was with that. Man in there and let's build let's build faster. But we have a lot of yeah, it's like oh no, no wait breathe. Yeah, you've breathe breathe Superman Superman great. You got that cool story. Yeah, you know because yeah, I think if someone went Batman don't think Superman's a cool dude, I get it. So it's like you can or you know, if that's what you want to go with like that's that's a good. Yeah. No. Yeah at the end of the day though Henry Cavill Superman I'm 100% on board. We love you. Yeah, we got it. I've got to go talk to him like he's staring at us. But do we love you have to keep doing this thing? But do you wonder if the Batman is going to make that possible? Yeah. I don't know. I have a feeling he might be not in conversations with the Batman kid who serves but in people's ears of like, hey guys look like there's an opportunity here to maybe do something not necessarily make it a Batman and Superman movie. Yeah, but I'm think I'm imagining that. He's thinking of creative ways to tie his version of Superman into this but I don't know you have a big thing too is like, you know, we're good. The Wonder Woman train is like moving. So if you're not on board, but if they bring back Superman great, how do you bring Batman back? Yeah you like do you go back to Ben Affleck and say great we're going to do this. We're going to do this the right way. We want you to come back and play Batman or did he so done? I know we're going to come back you like this thing though. It's like you can never say never You never know. It's very it's very truth. Always possible to always possible. I know and and and it's like it's so tough because I remember when they were kind of going back and forth is Flash going to be a solo origin story and then like the next year Comic-Con flash flash points was like, oh are we going to use this to like bring in a new Batman and like go away with Ben Affleck. So like is there going to be a version of this where it's like Matt Reeves your movies are so great. We love Robert Pattinson so much. Let's do a Flash movie where flash goes into an alternate universe. Our Batman was killed and we Bring him in and we bring back that's already a little too much. I don't even watch Doctor Who but it's tiny whining. It's to timey-wimey for me. Like it's just already basing it off of time travel only works on Back to the Future. Like it's very difficult actually watch crisis on infinite Earths. I know we've had a spider-verse so anything you know what you're right. You're absolutely right like you would like if you try to pitch that movie years ago people like that is how do but now if you are Thank you for reminding me. Yeah, that's a really good point right never forget spite of her again. But no nothing that I could ever. You want to lose your card at the sea just give it up gladly because I got a problem in cartoons. Let's go on to the next one the next one. I'm gonna make sure I'm in my right folder. Here we go. Hey, there it is. Okay. So this is kind of a surprising thing that The Rock talked about he's doing currently doing the junket for Or Jumanji, which I'm super excited to see it. I love the last one. Yeah, I cannot stop talking about that movie but something that he liked revealed that I was like damn. This is kind of surprising this early because we just got the release date. We just got that new amazing piece of artwork from boss logic and Gimli. So I'm like cool this train is also starting to leave the station. So you better jump on board fast before it before it's gone. He confirmed that the Justice Society of America is going to be featured in Black Adam crazy, which it's Eating but I'm also like great but what about Justice League? He wouldn't make sense for the story because as we know Black Adam is a character who comes from Egypt, right? And as we know from certain characters from The Justice Society, particularly Hawkman Carter Hall, he's a reincarnated version of an Egyptian princess and prince. Yeah. So I think there definitely are opportunities for Black Adam and Carter Hall to or Hawkman. I should say. Yeah to sort of like cross paths at one point and if there's you know each other know each other and if there's some sort of passage of time we can later meet Hawkman who is now Carter Hall part of the Justice Society of America. We've got characters like Stargirl Alan Scott Green Lantern Jay Garrick flash doctor fade in like that could potentially tie into the block out a movie part of me is also a little worried of like is this going to be one of those things like the Batman where we're setting up right Black Adam to fight this like whole team of Heroes and I'm like wait, is that a little too much too soon? That's I don't really know. With two Mega team movies going on they could run into that because if these teams aren't necessarily talking to each other yeah is the Batman going to live in the same universe as this other Mega team up move which probably not because this exists in the Shazam Universe which exists in the DC Universe once again back to that argument that we were having. I mean we could talk about this for hours like the more that these things come out and I don't know how to connect it the more I'm like kind of impressed by like, I'm just like you know, what, Just gonna go wild go wild. I mean, yeah and rails could considering something that you're talking about. I got I got I got a theory I'm not on save it for loan. Oh, okay. I got it right here. Well, I think tree. Yeah, I think oh wow man, go crazy, but everybody out there and then it's also like, you know, if you do Justice Society and you do include characters like Jay Garrick The Flash and Alan Scott Green Lantern does this mean that we're going to potentially like show these characters in a future flash movie. Yeah the Green Lantern Hal. Green Lantern is technically very different from the Hal Jordan. You know that era of Green Lantern is power set sort of different but like yeah, are we going to see those characters in like movies that take place now? Is that going to come into play at all? When we see an old Jay Garrick and Barry Allen? So here's another question. Are we too much in the Weeds about it now? Like are we over going through comic books? Are we are we thinking too much about the repercussions of what's going to happen? Whereas maybe the Rocks thinking of it as like this is another summer. Esther hit just like Jumanji for her. Like I am gonna keep doing these fun movies not necessarily worried about the continuity of this type of stuff because it would be cool if they try to set this stuff up but also getting into the weeds leads to some theories leads to some craziness and then we could talk about it for days literally about how they could tie this stuff. The one interesting thing is because Star Girls now is for the most part been a member of the Justice Society and she's been now on the CW arrowverse as a member of the Justice Society as well on top of that. Getting her own show coming to the CW / DC Universe. So we're going to have like three Co existing versions of star girl that's like to one movie and to TV Universe versions of her which I have nothing against I think obviously the Star Girl TV show is going to be singularly focused on that area. Listen y'all like under reminded us earlier spider-verse did it? Yeah, it's fast and it just so you know, there's a Disney plus movie called star girl, but it's not has nothing to do with this, but she also exist in the universe. he said we will eventually see black out of it and Shazam and then Get out damn release. That's all I wanted to release a deleted scene where they like there was a casino where they were all sitting in the throes and they Mega references like oh there's one empty one. Well, yes. Yeah. I think that's a deleted scene but on top of that. Yes, I think that I'm pretty sure that's what that that's on me special features. Yeah, but not only that in the movie itself. The wizard makes a reference to someone who like had the power in was kind of like a fallen version which is am and I always assumed that they were talking about Black Adam, I don't know if everybody else in terms of the way. Yeah, but yeah, I think that empty seat. Yeah, that's I would assume that that would be for the Rocks blackout in character. Yeah. And yeah last week we talked about when they announced as we talked about how our hope at least for me, you know, Black Adam has traditionally been shazam's aren't any. Yeah Nemesis straight stardom as a villain building between antihero and then let's see how we kind of plays with all these other characters and like I think would be awesome to see Shazam and Superman team up to take down block Adam. A blackout and become like a villain main villain for the Justice Leaguer. Like there's so many stores animated movie where they take him down like, yeah, I think it's I think it's called The Return of blackout him like that. Yeah. I know I've seen that in animated form. Yeah. So I guess I guess is a good question like yeah what I mean, you know, so speculation but obscure curious what the angle is going to be with his character in this right if the idea later he's like if you make this movie where it's like he's a you can't make like he's a hero and right and then order set all of a sudden everybody's beefing and yeah, I don't know some casual. Yeah, but I remember you I think you guys even talked about it. You said something about like how his mindset is like I'm doing I'm doing just as but in my way. So maybe one of the things of like same idea but different ways of handling. Yeah. I don't know. I'm intrigued by it - yeah. Yeah, I think definitely it's like cool. You definitely have to kind of figure out how to bring this character in this universe and I get that The Rock doesn't necessarily maybe want to play a villain character. Yeah, but I think like if you're going to put them up against Shazam Got to be a reason for it and if it's going the more antihero route where it's like you're saying, it's Black Adam doing things the way that he believes is the right way to do it, which is different from the moral values of what Shazam and scared like Superman think yeah, then yeah, then I think there is a way to further all those characters kind of like butt heads on baby. You gotta build that up. Yeah, or maybe he's just like I know how these powers are handle. I appreciate anybody else having them on precisely beefing with. Yeah, that's exactly back. You know. Yeah, as long as as long as it's entertaining, okay? I said I say make great good movies first and continuity can figure that out. Like yeah, not a bad way to us or has at least tricked us into believing that continuity is like very clear in that Universe. They fudged stuff too and like have you no one cares because the movies are entertainment still confused about the timeline in Marvel and endgame. I'm like, how does how do these things I'm just like whatever dude I don't care. They basically we're like they basically like To cheat their own like time travel stuff. They're like, yeah. This is an effect anything in the present. So you can kind of just Branch it out and surrounding it right at the end of the day. It just make a fun movie. Hey, right, you're right. If you're concerned about the continuity of Marvel's in my universe River War Machine changed people right? Sure. It's so nice. He became a completely different person who did it doesn't even look like the original person if you guys had me that I'm sorry. I'm sorry, if you can accept that and you can set up a different Hulk. Yes. Yep. We're good. Don't worry about exactly. But that was that that happened now, there are look at Star Wars news flash everyone. There were superhero movies before the Marvel Cinematic Universe that didn't have to be crazy can happen again. What what what what it's a possibility all and it's a real movie can exist in the universe is not necessarily the connected Marvel Cinematic Universe. Exactly. I'm sorry too. Sorry for these hot days boilers boilers. What do you call it? What's it called? You know hardcore decent defense. I'm like, I'm in the alternate universe grains friend right now with all this DCC. Yeah, speaking of let's keep going speaking up because our girl heading to the CW. So what this is a very nice man. I'm starting to wonder like how long it is before my DC Universe subscription will not matter. Yeah, and that's right. I got a whole year. So I'm going to February. Hope you will see start so Star Gold has secured exclusive linear linear rights. Where it's going to premiere on DC Universe first, okay the next day it'll air on the CW and the day after that you'll be able to stream it on CW's Digital streaming website. Okay. So silly you'll get a first on DC Universe which is like cool DC Universe has now become a patreon basically get a first down there and then everybody else will have access to it. We get some some some live chat. I know it's I'm frustrated, too. Worried because I'm frustrated because I really was excited for DC Universe and I was so excited for the fact that I was going to give us things like Titan swampthing Doom Patrol Stargirl, give us allow us the opportunity to explore characters that maybe are not going to get movies or TV shows. But now when it's like swapping canceled Doom Patrol season to HBO Max and DC Universe star, rho C W and DC Universe like great. I love the fact that a lot of this stuff is going to be available for everyone. One so they can enjoy it and consume it but I don't think that it'll be enough for people to go. Well, I want to get each I want to get DC Universe Charles. Great. Oh Doom Patrol. Yeah. I want to get this universe. What more they offering its Titans and like bless you Titans. I don't think you're that there's you're trying they're trying but I don't think it's enough to like hook people. We got Disney plus the Mandalorian is like rushing it. Yeah, and I think this universe needs a show like that for people to go. Oh shit. I need to sign up for this. Demente. Yeah. Well Devil's Advocate. Yeah, there's a possibility that maybe they saw something in star girl. That was so impressive and they're like, we don't want to put this behind a pay wall at yeah, we need to get this sent maybe you know and considering you know the speculation about what's going to a Black Adam or just in general. Maybe there is something where they say like this character could you know be really big and obviously, you know, they're mean they're losing hair like arrows ending right hand. We don't know how long some of the other shows will be exactly. So maybe they're just seeing this as like, Like this really fits the CW Network and which just on the basis alone when you don't really write a character. It feels like it's something that I could be like. Yeah Star Girls Supergirl, you know, right Flash River dsc-w problem. Is that yeah something there or maybe maybe you know on the flip side when you think of things like Titans Doom Patrol, maybe they're looking at Star go and be like, well, this is great for DC Universe because in DC property, but maybe it's not the same mold as the other shows and so something like CW with like that's gonna be a great way to gain an audience outside of the service. Here's another question. You guys yeah in a world where we have Disney pouring how much per episode for Mandalorian like 11 million or something like that even more I think right? Yeah, I think 200 million for the whole season. Do you think there will ever be a time where this CW style of making TV shows will not be enough to compete like do you think there's always going to be an audience for the CW type of show serialized caddy of the week? I think considering how long a show like Supernatural or not? Yes or no? Yeah Jensen. Cause it's supernatural, right? I think it was Supernatural, right? That's the show is only like 15 years. Yeah with him Jensen Ackles. Yeah. Considering how like long that's lasted. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think if you continue to make those series fun and entertaining I think the problem that those some of those CW shows those dc1 specifically they've become too repetitive and they're too much of the same. I personally have never seen Supernatural but I think the reason why it has such a rabid fan base and a very enthusiastic fan base is because like They've done so they figure out a way to make those characters feel very special to the audience. Right? And I don't know if the DC versions of those shows have found that yet. Well that might be why they're doing something like this because maybe maybe start over the test because the average DC shows has been out already for DC Universe there only a few episodes or like for which one for likes like Titan season one was how many episodes I think? Yeah. They're both been about 12 13. Yeah. So so maybe this is a test that they're doing because that's what I like. Look every time I see these Marshalls for these shells only gosh, I want to but you're five seasons in and twentieth episode and every why we don't do them and there's and I know that of you know, so it's kind of a task. So maybe this is their opportunity like well, let's see what happens if they shorter versions is like that and so maybe what ends up happening is instead of having a 22-episode season of a superhero show where you do feel like well some of these are fillers some of these are essential whatever that it's like. Okay. Well, we'll have 13 episodes of this show and then we'll swap it out with 13 episodes this show and in those shows are tight Andre. We're gonna make you a permanent residents on the show. Yes, you are preaching the things that we've been talking about for years. We've been talking about this for a while, but that's that's kind of what I'm trying to get to the like that method has been proven not clicks Netflix show - thank you everything. Yes training things Daredevil Jessica Jones or any cable shows the cable network. Yeah, but that's the thing though. Is that old school way of making a 26-episode season, right? Is it too much is there too much filler? Like I think I personally believe That if DC wanted us to really latch onto all of this stuff that they're doing. They really need to pour that money on to I mean to these series like more than just a CW Show. Imagine if you took the 23 episode budget of the flash you took all of that and you invest it into an 8/10 episode right? Exactly like and then same amount. You're exactly right. How much do those visual effects drastically increase? How much does the storytelling feels so much? Tighter and so much more to the point because you do that and that's at once again back to what I'm what I was trying to say is that I feel like they just need to tighten up the ropes a little bit because the DC characters deserve this like the if there's anybody who deserves this before the whole Marvel Cinematic Universe happened the Justice League and Justice League Unlimited cartoon shows were the greatest superhero thing I had ever seen and that was just a fact I had never been in all like that and dude. I was off your Super Friends. Yeah. Yeah, these characters deserve that touch that everybody else is putting into other things and other networks, but these characters just deserve that for sure. Yeah, and let's just let's just be real. Okay, look, I know we're all excited about a streaming services and wrong thing about these original programs, but we're being tested. Let's just because no you're right here because I'ma tell you right now if the man with the way to Mandalorian is going if there is ever a moment on any Disney own network where they're like, Pam we had to cancel some show we got eight three weeks. We don't know what to put there and the mandalorians just sitting there after for a while, you know, they can be like, let's do a special event. So like I you know as much as it's cool to get to some exclusive and I think that's how we should look at is that you're getting this stuff exclusive first, but to act like none of these shows will ever be on television network or ever get cut down to be like that's why they're investing so much in this because now if they're like, okay, you know what we got 10 weeks to show the show now, you're putting 10 weeks of a show that got like movie investment, but now it's One television. Yeah, and it's like Whoa, We can do this and you have the opportunity and this might be the way of showing like let's put that movie money into TV shorten it up. Yes and and like show that it's good and just keep rotating the stuff out because that's what's going to make network television. And of course it's changing things are evolving things are changing and I feel like this just needs to catch up a little bit but you'll still get your three hour you three are your three cameras it comes. Oh for sure. Yeah last man standing I think is still Just last night. I went to the theater and I watched Primal in a movie on the theater screen and it was a cut-down of the first four episodes and I'm like cool. It's 80 minutes of just pure Gandy greatness beautifulness so good and I love and I think you're absolutely right. I mean I if they put them out which who knows we talked about this last I'm not even gonna touch the physical media thing but like if they release 4K box a box, like if they release a box of the Mandalorian season 1 am, I gonna buy it hundred percent am I? Groan Disney Plus Hudson. I own half of the CW shows on Blu-ray. Right? Right. I still I'm gonna have these Universe because like yeah, I want accessibility to be able to watch their but also want to be able to like go watch the special features in my room. What if I'm camping somewhere and all I have is a Blu-ray player and a TV. Yeah. We're like a vice versa. I'll have as my phone. It's like I'm not gonna bring my disks with right exactly. So yeah, and I agree with you on that. You guys have changed my mind about. Yeah media for sure that mean well I was I was on a show on the full screen networked digital. As they have guess where you can find those episodes. So this turn Port you are at Lisa mp4 file do something physical Media or you most way more than I should. Yeah, I'm telling you. I wanted 4K kit, which reminds me. I forgot. I'm so sorry. I got some 3D a couple three. Where you don't act right here. Where's your guitar? Because he's he's literally flying from Qatar. I know he's giving those to means yummy with a yeah boner just like my God. You said 3D. It's yeah, it's shared. It's just that you guys like that so I don't have that. So Hector has those So my answer will ya I know it's but it's like it's really it's one of those things. That's like it's really tough for people like us to like not click physical. Media because like some I mean truthfully sometimes we just get it and it's like well, I'm not gonna sell it. If someone gives it to me for free. I'm going to keep it but like yeah, there's certain things that I just don't want to own it, but actually but yeah, but like yeah this the with so much money being honest in this stuff like they're going to find it different opportunities. So I think this is a cool idea I do want but I do understand from the side of like, hey man, I'm paying you for month to be like this is mine and then you put this out there to the masses as well and it's a little bit like beyond that like, yeah, I mean Okay for me, it's not a big deal to pay for DC Universe because I love DC and I want to access all that stuff and yeah and the bottle bottle but it also then makes me worried about like what's the future of that streaming platform is it I'm just gonna like how we talked about last week. Is it just going to merge into HBO Max and it's like it goes away. I think yeah. I mean, yeah, I think that if you're going because they're already saying if you get HBO Max you'll get HBO now I think so. So I just though DC Universe in there because they should they really good because it doesn't make sense to pay whatever 15. For HBO Max and then another amount for another Warner Brothers party where you're already taking some of the shows and putting them on exactly different tiers releasing. Yeah, it's too much if anything there. Yeah, if anything that you would do at the way like Disney pluses doing with Hulu and what's the other one who Lou and ESPN Espy? Yeah. It's like cool if I'm going to pay 1599, but I'm already a subscriber to DC Universe. Yeah, you should give me some sort of like they were rated DC Universe for the comic aspect. Yeah. That's what I think that is a very special. I mean, I would just keep them as still separate apps. Yeah and just like prorate it. Right or something? Yeah, you know, I don't see we'll see what happened. Don't you? Don't you? I don't know guys. It doesn't charge. I don't know guys just put us solve everything if you want to save money. Just wait a day. Yeah, we got ya. You don't have CW wait two days for free. It'll be fine. It'll be fine. It'll still be relevant. It'll still be trending. All right. So this thing is mostly for me because like I'm just way too disgustingly excited for crisis on infinite Earths, please I want to ask you this. Yeah, sure. Okay, if I am like completely like I have seen like two flashes and and and and 1/2 1/2 of the tomorrow's. Yeah, like am I? Yeah, your nose all good, but I am but if I'm super excited for this am I gonna be good like if I be? All right, aren't if I'm being completely honest if I can make a recommendation, if you have the time, I would honestly just watch the crossover episodes from each season. Okay, cuz I watch The Flash Supergirl one, okay. Good one that was a fun one. That's the only one I've seen gesso and that's honestly all at because again not to like I'm not trying to bad-mouth. These shows are very rinse and repeat for a lot of it and it's like sometimes for those shows all that matters is the first episode the winter finale and the finale itself because you're like, okay I kind of can can pick up the rest of it. You can all I've done for the last three seasons. I've just watched the crossover episodes and they do a good enough job of setting up what's going to happen in the next crossover that like Yeah in a perfect world. I probably should watch the leading up episodes of like Supergirl flash Arrow Legends of Tomorrow Batwoman. But like it's not necessarily a requirement in my opinion. I think you can go in and just watch these these five episodes and you'll still feel satisfied. Yeah. Let me just preface was I would love to watch all these. Oh sure. Yeah, if I have the time it's literally 300 episodes of caliber that we don't watch them because we don't have the time. Yeah. I wish I could I wish upon a star. Early, that's why I wish I was right now. And I've I think about three times. I've started arrow and then stopped and started and then Flash and legends. It's really hard and I have all the blue raised on but it's like getting through it is like not an easy task and sometimes they're like this. LOL is taking so long. I'll eventually get to it. But I mean like the biggest thing for me personally. The exciting things for me is like getting Brandon Ralph back as Super Bass getting Tom Welling back as Clark Kent athlete Gammy mandating, Kevin Kahn. Conroy to play Bruce Wayne so good and it looks like based on the images that we got. He's going to play the show that if I'm sure that and of Bruce Wayne and I'm like my brain is going to spin it and to go inside out and it's going to come out my ears because like I'm gonna lose my shiznit. It's when I watch this isn't dominates that television there is a television and the direct-to-video animated stuff. Video, there it is. Yeah animated up there. I mean they have always dominated. Yeah, great. I'm so pumped for this and like I've been re watching a lot of Smallville and I think it's because like that shows not current and I can kind of do it at my own pace and I don't feel my hind because I've already seen the whole series. It's been fun just to re-watch it. But then like the fact that we're going to get so many of these returning characters coming back for this 5 episode incredible like crossover event as like someone who has grown up. Yup, reading DC comic books and experience crisis on infinite Earths in the comic books and then seeing all this stuff sort of like these crossovers build up year after year for the show's might do this is if you've been following this every single week for the last like yeah, ten years one incredible work. Yeah and to what a reward for you, right? This is your MCU basic comedy as the TV equivalent of a yeah sure because like you've been watching these shows and they've had like the occasional like they're bright. Yeah. This is this is this There this is there. Yeah Infinity. There's their in-game. This is it's impressive. Yeah, it's super super impressive love it. I cannot wait and I think like having Kevin Conroy team finally having the ability to come and play a live-action version mediator to these voice for 25 years is so dope. Okay. Okay. This might be me asking for too much now, what's up, but okay because he's an older Bruce Wayne, right? That's the last time I ever saw an old Bruce Wayne was an animated series with some red. Logo, yeah, is that is that possible look if I don't think it will happen Okay, but I bet I know it's honestly like okay if you were really going to like honor what's come before if Wilfred L showed up as like Terry McGinnis, I would flip the table over and and I'd like to have him be a more like establish. He's already been Batman for years. I'm like, well y'all are really going all out there knows who? Yes, what a thrill it would be amazing, but I Part of me wishes it part of me thinks it's not going to happen. Mostly because it seems like they're pulling from the kingdom come version of - okay, Bruce Wayne and I don't know if that's fair. I don't know if Terry McGinnis Batman exists in that Universe because that common question for a comic book predates Batman Beyond, so probably not I was I was mixing I was mixing cartoon logic would what happened but because this is a TV thing and because it's going to be brief if you mix and match the continuity and the history, I don't think Kevin Conroy is Swain is going to exist in the same continuity as Brandon Ralph's Superman, right? But if he does well, I mean, I guess actually you could because Superman ages a much slower rate so hard to talk about it had a name we just so excited for it. But look it's not it's not a complete impossibility because if you're going to tell us that Kevin Conroy is Batman exist in the same world as Brandon routh's Superman Brandon real Superman is technically the Christopher Reeve Superman. So like all of that aging stuff it would work. It could and would work Adam. I think at this point. We just need to watch this show. It's really not that far away. It's almost here and I know you're super duper excited. Okay, so how's it working? So it's like it's various shows various episodes. Yeah, it shows over the course of the next couple months. Yeah. So the first three episodes are going to start so December 8, you're going to have the first part 1 will be the Super Girl episode. I sewed okay part 2 will be the Batwoman episode on Monday. Okay, R 3 will be the flash episode on Tuesday the same week. So you sound like you're like, okay, okay that helps and but so the first three episodes and then we're going to take a break and in January the episode of Arrow will be part 4 and the episode of Legends of Tomorrow will be part 5 of the final crisis on infinite Earths. Okay. That's the conclusion the conclusion of this was five episodes total. Yeah, and then Arrow, I think really don't I think Arrow because I think it's eight or ten episodes this season. It'll be like one of the last episodes of Arrow. Then that's your way that's gonna be so I know that's a good way to now. Yeah, it's going to be epic. I cannot wait and like I know a lot of people have a varying opinions about the DC TV stuff, but like you have to commend them for just going for it a great day just committed and went for speaking of physical media. They need to put all that needs to be a set. Yeah, all the crossover episodes as like a nice. Oh my God collector's edition with like pictures and stuff. Like that was all the guys get on that hard interviews and stuff. I think will be I think if I think it would be a challenge because All the lead up stuff. Like how do you how do you make a Blu-ray for crisis on infinite Earths without doing the lead-up episodes for the respective Seasons doesn't matter though. Yeah look in some in some Far Future. There will be some crazy Collector's Edition that's going to be like $3,000 and you know, that'll be like the CW are over sand will be everything and my dumbass will We buy it but no I think that if you'd like if you'd like a you to Chrysler in it or if that's like that's like the artwork. Yeah, and I thought the main part of it and then you throw in some bonus episodes of other Crossovers and true, but two special features that they look awesome or you just make like a special like 30 minute recap episode. Yes. Yeah of like what's happening all these special features absolute do like a flash Trevon Smith recounting what we really like go super fast as tell you everything that happened liya because I feel like I'm going to show we give DC and Marvel so many like cash making opportunities rules and y'all I'll never do it. Can I drop a small quick Theory before we go to next 100% What if and again this is like my Batman Beyond thing that might be asking for too much, but we are definitely setting up. Multiple universes in these DC shows. We just had had numerous conversations about what the heck are all the universes in the movie world. Right? Is it possible that the TV shows are kind of being like the we're going to teach you a little dislike the tutorial. Yeah of how this works so that when we start throwing some of these ideas in the big-budget movie land, you're like, oh, okay. I get that. I saw Chrysler Universe. I understand how this goes. So then you can have your Whatever DC movie you want whenever you want how you want because if you think about it with the animated right movies. Yeah there you some of them some of them connect so it's down. Yeah, so I'm like, I'm wondering if this is just another way of them establishing. Look we have these characters, you know these characters but we're going to constantly keep telling you different iterations different stories. Don't worry about which one's connecting which I know I think like we can always make it connect with this even invited Earth you Marvel at kind of I mean the amps you kind of did it because at the end of a game you're like, oh Steve Rogers went and In the alternate timeline Yang ba ba ba ba ba and for the most part people have been like okay that makes sense to base but I feel like people still see that as like that still the one. Oh for sure. Yeah, but I was it all ties back to the sounds. But if you see something like this and go okay, there's different worlds than that. Then you can accept that. Whatever Black Adam is setting up over here is different from whatever Joker's doing over here, which is different whatever the batter is over here that you're not sitting there going. Well how they all connect you just go. Oh, that's just how easy does it? I'm sure is he Marvels one connecting Universe DC is multiple universes, I think China I think they are doing that but not with the TV stuff because from what we've talked about in the past is that those two departments generally don't really talk to each other. Yeah. Well we look I don't like necessarily like having the TV characters jump into movies. I'm just meeting just letting people aware that we're going to see we don't this is part of our Lord, but I think they're more reaching the masses with things like the Joker like you knew Joker which is kind of set in a whole different Universe than everything else that's been happening. And that was wildly successful. So I think yes, you're onto something with that but I think it's going to be done in sort of a different route rather than yeah having the people who watch the TV say, oh well where the leaders we know about this. Yeah. We know all about it guys. So just listen Okay. I mean like I'm just curious the fact that like the John Wesley Shipp 90s Flash TV series is in these arrows show the like hell, yeah. It's a deep cut that's a fact they're connecting this with small the like I never will That's so great, please they got it. They got to play the song. Okay, never mind. I'm not going to tell you you need to go. Oh gosh. Yeah. Oh, no, they do it already. You need to go watch last season's crossover. I'll gotta watch it so much to learn. It's okay. So we're going to be talking about Star Wars galaxy far far away. We're also going to be obviously talking about the Mandalorian on the podcast with Andre can't wait to talk about that but the movie Yeah start when it comes to the Star Wars movies, it's it hoof. There's been so many varying opinions about the movies and what people think about them and all that sort of stuff and a lot of people have started talking about like well, what does this mean for Kathleen Kennedy when you have such a divisive fan base, what is this? What kind of pressure does this does this put on someone who's really supposed to be in charge of all of this stuff? They do have a movie lined up for 2022. They're going to hold off on announcing the director until January after the rise of Skywalker releases, which which totally fine and I know Bob Iger has talked a lot about well, maybe we like jumped out the gate little too strong with Star Wars figures day. I personally agree with that. I I've always loved the idea that like I had to patiently wait three years for Star Wars movie and now it's like every year we're gonna throw Star Wars at you and like I don't need that and I know a lot of people always talk about like well Marvel does it I'm like, yeah, but Marvel has like they figured out the formula and they've done it their own way. Star Wars doesn't need to follow that and Marvel movies, even though that's one Universe each one of those movies played around in different genres. Yes. Where is Star Wars has been a very similar line even even the one that you're like. Well, I like this one over this one. If you really nail it down. It's the same. Yeah and I'll structure wise also I think the root cause of the divisiveness is because people have been creating and reminiscing about this universe since the 70s. Yeah. There is Hardcore fan demand loyalty to this. This and things that people have thought about for a very long time that and a lure that was established in than removed. Right stablished removed all the sudden its Legends now and then there's a new lore. Yeah. So there are things that this is an old fandom that is going to be difficult to crack and I agree with Captain Kennedy. It's kind of difficult because people are so so attached to things and when you mess with things that people are attached to I don't know if you guys know but the internet gets mad sometimes sometimes yeah. Yeah. I don't know is this bad? Was Star Wars as well? I know that we just hung out like all these infinite universes. I'm like that and that's something you know, haven't Star Wars. So wherever you decide I want to introduce this thing. You got to probably like talk to every person that has you know, right, you know history and knowledge that you have to go. Can you even do that? Does that even work? Yeah, you know, I was watching a documentary that came out I think late 90s about episode 1 when it came out. Yeah and listening to George Lucas address. The hatred that he got 4 episode 1 was really interesting to watch because I feel like we're reliving that every single time a new Star Wars movies drop her son. Yeah, which sucks because if the Creator granted however, you feel about those episode 1 2 3 movies if the creator gives you something and people are still rabidly angry about this like what does that do for the future of these movies? Are you never going to be able to make the fan base happy like what the Creator works on it? You have a problem with it. Someone new works on it. You have a problem. Too much like the original you have a problem. If you change too much. You have a problem. It's a very very simple it's but yet the thing that's working is the television series of those which we will talk about later in a patreon thing. But I mean, that's definitely one of the things that Kathleen 10 Kennedy has talked about is like it's a very it's a it's a fan base that has very particular wants needs and expectations and for them when they're trying to crack, you know, what they want to do going forward. A lot of it is like will do we go to The past do we go to the Future do we try like what you're saying of like do we try and like just go into a whole different galaxy? Is that a possibility? Like how would all of that work? And I think like that is part of the thing that makes Star Wars hard and I do also believe that because they changed the cannon and it's now a brand new Canon with brand new stories and all that sort of stuff. Yeah you there are elements that I think you can take from comic books and books and graphic novels like they did with Ron and Star Wars Rebels. And repurpose them, but I don't think they're going to necessarily take a particular story and just make it work in their new continuity. That's why I was curious about. I wonder I wonder if what would have happened if mean obviously, yeah because I've even read or heard of like even within the stuff that got tossed at some of that does contradict each other sometimes but like I wondering what kind of experience would have happened if they said okay, we're not going to use everything but there is something in this story that was Something that we like and we're going to do not me not you know to the letter but like sugar interpretation of that. Yeah, I think that would have been I mean like heir to the Empire those like SQL throught the basically the thrawn trilogy right is like you could have adapted those into movies, but like we're not in that timeline like Mark Hamill, Carrie Fisher and Harrison Ford or now old. Yeah. So if you adopt those books, if you would have done that would you have now aged up all those characters from the books where people still be mad about that? But what about this? Please this many years after Return of the Jedi cool. It's been 32 years in real time like not like we can't make that movie anymore. It's not possible. Or maybe that's what I keep trying to make CGI people just in case exactly and I think that's also like you I think as lucasfilm you have to make a commitment and just say great. Let's not focus on the Skywalker timeline anymore. I think things like Mandalorian are cool because it's such a big gap between six and seven that you can kind of play with that and like that's there are particular things that make me excited about playing in between timelines. But like yeah, I think if you're going to move Star Wars forward, let's get out of that sixty four year time period of the Skywalker Saga, let's go back a thousand years. Let's go forward a hundred years. Yeah, like let's start doing new things over here. Yeah. I really liked it. Yeah. I can't I can't we just go there and I think that's the only way that this universe. The opportunity to move forward and like she talked about Ryan Johnson and how she was happy with what he did because it was bold different in it challenged read what people knew and loved about Star Wars is the movie perfect. Of course, not of course, there are things about the movie that don't work but the idea of pushing something beyond the point of what we expect to me is like that at least is intriguing and interesting. Yeah, I think if you would have just rinse and repeat Star Wars again and done the same thing. It's like, all right. I don't write it would have given us to me. Me personally, I feel like forward is the way to go for sure. Yeah, there's there's definitely cool things that you could do with Knights of the Old Republic and even pre there's there's old Sith that you could really get into who didn't even encounter Jedi because the Jedi and the Sith weren't necessarily a thing like Ancient Ancient Jedi. Yeah stuff that imagine like candies Clone Wars mixed with Primal. Oh my God, my brain opposing dude, like prehistoric when people didn't even know what the force was. They've just yeah. Um, I still had like the early versions of like a lightsaber and that going exactly like what all of meant so that that is cool. But I think moving on and for I think the future of the franchise moving on to the future is really the way to go. Yeah. Unfortunately the fan base probably doesn't see it that way me personally. I love change. I really Embrace change. That's why I love The Last Jedi because I saw the little inklings of like guys were trying to progress this forward a little bit. We're really trying to kind of break out of the rinse and repeat thing that we've seen with previous movies and previous iterations. I really loved Star Wars Rebels because that's still kind of playing in the same timeline Darth Maul plays a huge part in this but you get to see what what mall is doing and how he survived being sliced in half and what he's trying to achieve and it gives that character some grape depth. Yeah, which is why I like things like that, but for the overall franchise, let's move it forward. Yeah. I think that what I would like to see when I And I think that's a great example of what Star Wars where I don't know. I don't speak for fandom or anything. But you know, everyone has a different team, but I think what has made some of the other IPS or temples work is because even though they're based on several old properties what they have created is the new thing right and it's like very much specific for them. And so you can look at it as a comic book fan and it's a Marvel DC. For example, I go I know that represents that but for someone who has no prior knowledge that this is their first time they can go and go. Oh, this is just a cool thing. Yeah, and I think Star Wars is still this weird area where you're like trying to make it a new thing, but you still have to establish really like like I'm gonna be real Flee I feel like all the Luke Leia Han stuff. I I would've been fine with that ending at Force awakens. Oh, yeah, because if you're gonna get bringing all these new characters re you can ring Rafe in Poland right like clean up all the Skywalker stuff boom. And then a tenday Beyond let's focus on these new people because in that way it's like now we're focusing on what is the current thing and then that way if you're like, eh, I'll just like my old stuff I'm out or if you like ham into this new stuff amend right? It's at least taken that time but I think this weird kind of like we want the old fans to be here, but we also want to accept This is different. But we also don't want to go too far different. So we're gonna you know, there's also a dance and was like dancing. Yeah, where is like you are you saying if you come in with going like we want to show like Rebels wondering like Mandalorian and we're going to have this story but then when there is a moment to go hey, you know what we can connect this classic things into it. Exactly and then fine just do it like that. It's just, you know, I also like to I know right watch movies and another thing too that I think we forget about Lot is there was a pre there was a world before Star Wars even existed. Yeah, when Star Wars was the new bold. Yeah, groundbreaking things actually and that is part of it. And and I don't think people have moved on from it. Like it was new bold and exciting. Let's make it new bold and exciting and you all seen Freddie Prinze jr. Is rant about Star Wars. I don't I did I thought was part of it. He talks about and he says like a lot of people are just mad because Star Wars has not aged. It's like with them. It's not each with them. It's trying to do new things and bring new people in and it's not necessarily just for you. It's for kids. Who are young now? It's meant for it's meant for everyone in like, I'm totally okay with that. Yeah, and like I understand like the prequels were for me when I was a kid. Yeah. This new Trilogy is for kids who are growing up now the original trilogy was for you when you were seven and this year Yeah, exactly. People saw them. So of course I have an attachment was 27 years old when I saw the original trilogy, so I didn't days ago. Yeah, basically, although I came I came late in the summer because because by the time that I even was here about Star Wars that was like when they were hardcore enemy walks and I was like, okay then I'm mixing them up with Smurfs and Chipmunks are no different than the later to someone like when there's all this other stuff stars like this weird franchise where I like knew so much about it without ever seeing a movie like in like Drew I knew who Luke wasn't who? Wait, what'd I do all the relationships and Darth Vader I do everything but then when I sat down and watch one like yours, I don't think I ever saw this in full. Yeah exactly exactly to force myself to sit down to watch them. I'm like, I don't understand this. I need to understand. Yeah, it's really weird, but it's just but then that show but that shows how big in pop culture is like like not even joking like the other night. I looked up that Richard Pryor had a short-lived television show he had us. Our Wars sketched only right? We lose like actual puppets and everything from Star Wars and there's like but like this is like just proof of just like how big in pop culture it was, right? It it transcended just like, oh it's just for us and it like Nietzsche. It was like the movie because it was a game changer. No, absolutely and I think like yeah, I think I think sometimes people forget just like how ingrained in our culture Star Wars is yeah. There are so many people who have never seen Star Wars still to this day, but they know so much about it like you're saying It's just something that's so talked about. Yeah, it's kind of its kind of wild like how much I know I will eat has in Mexico who love R2D2 because his name sounds like arturito and I know I have to redo I love him like it's ingrained in not just everybody everybody. It was a worldwide phenomena. I don't think you could say the word lightsaber and people not at least people tell you it's a sword that looks like a laser. It was a world before a lightsaber where nobody knew what the hell it was. He saw it on screen. They lit the fuck up. There were just like this is the greatest thing I've ever seen. We need to get back to that. Yeah, we do we do but if it makes you feel any better Star Wars, you're not alone Harry Potter's having the same problem. Oh my goodness. That's so for example. That's a franchise. I've never sat down and I will never watched all of them. And I guess is a Harry Potter is a Wizarding World sure, you know, like that's not hard for any franchise. Yeah, like that's a franchise that I've never sat down to watch the whole thing in its entirety. T I've seen I think for out of like the 12 movies they've made and I'm like, all right, it's not for me it's for its for the people that were the right age when we were growing up and for kids now as an adult it's not necessarily for me, but I'm not mad about that. Yeah that it but it get but that being said it does get to be difficult with situation like this because one you know because of social media never all ingrained and and we I'm the same way. I'm like you look it's for the new generation it is but the fact that you still like The hardcore putting Luke and Leia and Chewbacca and R2D2 and C3PO is like every C-3PO and R2D2 is in every everyone except for which one is there is one design in right there another and all of them there are okay every movie. I thought there was one they skip but I guess no I think they're in everything every single one. No, they're enrolled why they have a cameo role Solo solo. Yeah. Oh so low. So yeah, so it's like it's so low. Yeah. So yeah, so, you know while I do agree with that that's why I was that's why I was saying earlier like at a certain point if you if you want to have that idea you got you got to make the cut ties and Riata country because because the moment you still go we still got the Skywalker's we still got this guy's you're still wanting that nostalgia. In there to try to get an audience for sure. You just can't have a way it's like at some point you just have to go. This is our new take. Yeah, and there will be little nuggets in there. This is what we're doing with this franchise and that's a risk it is but right it's one you have 100% Yeah. We'll see what Kevin feige does I think I think someone like Kevin feige because he's done so much with Marvel. I think that he will be someone along with other filmmakers to who will look at Star Wars and say like what can I do with this that's never been done before? Or and push the bar right into a new Direction not necessarily make it like better but I think just different different. Yeah, absolutely, but I can't keep going hard on these shows though. I feel like the TV shows. I mean, that's what Star Wars was based on ya cereal cereal. So I think that I think it's a way that you can just a not the one you focus on. Yeah. Well, they have those two they probably still have the box. Maybe you Oughta. See rebuild Gremlin cereal just change it to make people change the prop. But yeah, but like I think the TV shows and maybe that's maybe that's the thing maybe just because they haven't explored that well with Star Wars that maybe now they're looking at something like the Mandalorian maybe even with what they're doing at Obi-Wan. Yeah. Oh this is a way we can expand this world, but do it a different way where it can be very contained about one very specific thing and we can have a few episodes to cover it that we now know that not every Star Wars story has to be told in a to two-hour movie Frozen. Damn. That's a that's a perfect way to end and then it ends weeks absolutely love all of them. We love Aldridge. That's right. I'm very excited to jump from this episode 2 goes talking straight to the Mandalorian with Andre. Thank you so much for being here, but Chad are but I know know all the times. I'm like people there's other people out there. 20:27, like what how many DC universes are there and Adam just goes let me tell ya Let's sit down and travelpod, but let people know where they can find you online if they're already not watching. Yes. My YouTube channel is Black Nerd Comedy? Be sure to check it out. I geek out like just just like this but by myself and also check me out on Twitch at times. 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This week, Andre Meadows from Black Nerd Comedy joins us for a brand new episode of Hyper Heroes. John Turturro joins the cast of Matt Reeves' The Batman as Gotham City crime boss Carmine Falcone. This will mark the character's 2nd cinematic appearance following Tom Wilkinson's take on the character in Batman Begins. Henry Cavill did an interview with Men's Health magazine and discussed his future with Superman, and whether or not he'd come back to the role. Cavill also reveals his thoughts on Man of Steel, Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice, Justice League, and what direction he would like to take Superman in the future. During the Jumanji: The Next Level press junket, Dwayne Johnson revealed that Black Adam, based on the DC Comics super-villain and arch nemisis of SHAZAM!, will feature the debut of the Justice Society of America. It's rumored that characters like Hawkman and Stargirl will appear. Stargirl is coming to The CW. In a unique deal, the new series starring Brec Bassinger which debuts in Q2 2020, will premiere on the DC Universe streaming service. Following its debut, the show will air on The CW network and will be available on their online streaming service for free. Will DC Universe become an obsolete service? Crisis on Infinite Earths, the CW's mega-crossover event, debuts new images that give us a first look at Tom Welling returning as Clark Kent, Kevin Conroy's debut as Bruce Wayne, and new looks at Brandon Routh as Kingdom Come Superman. The 5-part event begins Sunday, December 8 on Supergirl. Finally, what does the future have in store for Star Wars? Kathleen Kennedy talks to Rolling Stone magazine about her future at Lucasfilm, spacing out the movies, and the challenge of making satisfying films. 