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You're tuned in to AfterBuzz TV the ESPN of tv top now look, Okay, it is AfterBuzz TV your after shelf for The Challenge on MTV War of the Worlds episode 15 Death Race. And we kicked off the final tonight heat 124 miles. It was insane. It was very dangerous. We're going to get into everything. We got a full panel tonight. My name is Jenna bussiere. I'm joined by Dan linger into my left eye everybody. Hey dance, we got peligros Chill on the panel as well as David Christopher's I am here all here. We're ready to dive into this. We got a lot to unpack that is finals. Absolutely. Insane. Probably the craziest was seen in a very long time. We had at least four competitors pass out two of them left the game because of it. Well, we'll get more energy. But yeah, we're going to get into you know, the the logistics of everything exactly the obstacles they had to do the endurance their tribunal predictions will get into a little bit later. We're gonna get into Cara Maria. Needle phobia. We got a lot to unpack and break down. So that's what's on the agenda tonight. We have some news and gossip. Hopefully if we get to it, but kicking it off. So we just watched this episode. How are you guys feeling brutal? That was a brutal seriously, you know to see that many people literally just collapsing especially like, you know turbo who's literally training for this some of the girls that are just out of nowhere faint like that's intense. I mean, you're battling the heat you're battling, but how many miles is that was just ridiculous. Why? 424 plus you have the obstacles that you have to finish plus keep up with the other competitors. I mean that's like all around draining. It's crazy. It was intense. Yeah, I mean, yeah, that was so brutal that watching. It was exhausting. Yeah. MTV was like, oh challenge 33 was way too easy and everyone complained about it. So now you guys can suck on this and we're like what the hell just happened. It was crazy. It was crazy. I love this bottle so much. It was it looks so hard and this is again exactly what we wanted to compare. Go through but I have to pose a question. Do you guys think it was too hard because it's at this point that now some of their bodies are literally shutting down and even if you have the mental strength, you see that some of them still want to go they still have the fight in their hearts and in their mind, but they're passing out there shutting down, Georgia. Thanks bear is there right like ninjas eyes roll in the back of our heads. Do you think that production was ever worried while watching this in the truck or on standby? Like crap we might have something on our hands here, like people are going in the ambulance the Medics are on. Site, do you think it was a too hard at all? Yeah, I think production knew damn. Well what could happen and they're like this makes great TV. Let's see what happens. No, but I mean, honestly, I'm sorry Dan, but I don't want to see it's just you're in that situation there in the desert. They know what they're doing. Of course. There's going to be a high possibility that someone gets injured someone they know that's why the Medics on site that's what they're there for, you know, you know me being a guy that likes to these people being pushed to their limits. Even I felt a little bad I gotta be okay that was intense. Yeah, and when people are literally collapsed Saying and spasming out. I don't think it's too hard because clearly there will be some winners. So it's doable obviously and I guess it really is pushing it to the max. But again when you talk about this verse last season's challenge, it's like oh my God, what is going on here? You remember two seasons ago when their hardest thing was that having to put on night costumes. It was been done right like Kayla and Leroy and Kyle and car. They're all like have it is write nice things on and Source like and do like Janky carnival games and sure there were some Carnival type of games in this final but the level of intensity Yahweh that is increased in those finals. Absolutely insane. I mean, how about this how about three laps instead of four laps? Because how much extra footage they do. We need to watch of them running and biking like they didn't know they would have got the same result as far as people being tired and feel passing out. I mean he'll Georgia passed out on the first lap. They got that footage. Why do you need four laps? That's why Mom's not 24 right there your yeah even eat or something. I think the editing was really well done. It was entertaining enough the entire time and this is a final. This is like an amazing race Survivor type of final doesn't need to be that sort of sensationalize quick fast entertainment. Like we want to see and maybe the challenges or the eliminations to me for this being a final I was okay with it being several laps and Miles because that's what we're here for. We want to see them. Yeah. I thought the editing was fast-paced my home, please if you want to keep them safe, if you are worried about them passing out and we saw like almost all of them pass out. I mean ninjas eyes rolled back in her head if she fell off a bike. That's insane. I don't understand how George I had did so well with the tire rolling thing and couldn't even complete one lap if it was the Heat or what are you doing? We don't know what their it's are. They drinking enough water. Like what are these? What are they doing to pregame this big marathon Race? I don't know if like producers come out of them saying you have to eat this amount of food. You have to drink this much water. Like I don't know how they do what they're doing beforehand. It's hard to say it's because they beforehand with we not knowing there's something like that you think See what hopes that they would have some kind of. Hey, maybe I should eat this or laugh the drinking Terry something from what it look like. All of them are literally just need to hydrate it and then write also exhaustion. They got to be cut off from alcohol, right? There's no way that they should be allowed to drink with at least like four days in advance of this because alcohol stays in your system for a minute and running something like this for five hours and dry desert heat. Yeah, you can't have that in your system. They have to kind of stop that. Yeah, but I just don't understand how Wow, George again. I'm stuck on Georgia because she's been the sort of endurance Queen. So for her to tap out, I think she's literally and we saw is bear here. She must have had DNA like I think they were Delirious dehydrated Delirious or the combination of the Heat and the exertion. But the reason why it was a good child for I'm just going back and disagree with myself and going to watch out is that because of the way it was structured there was a little bit of strategy in the way that you could Here laughs yeah, like south or because Wes I think who completed maybe one of the puzzling? Yeah was pacing himself and taking breaks and getting it done. And I think that that was a good strategy. He finished second finger second. So it's kind of like theater fielder's choice of when you get over to the obstacles. Like how many do I want to complete? I'm already here. I knocked one out. Do I stay and try and complete all of them so I can play two or three and then keep running. It's kind of like do I want to do all the cardio at once? You do have that option where you could do right now four laps biking and running all at once and then get to the games and knock out every single game or you could do intervals and space yourselves. Right? What strategy would you guys take? I finish as many of those games I could just because I don't want to get stuck behind someone like Hunter did at the end there, but that's I know I was thinking the same thing. This is how I asked this question was I was going back and forth the entire time. It's like, oh, do you want to just knock out all the games right away and then just depend on your cardio and your endurance, but that's a lot to run at once. And it might be really nice to have a break. Yeah and its future please. Well, you could just chill for 25. Yeah, and that is the thing where I can go against my own theory is a lot of these people just timed out on their puzzle and they were just using that as rest time which is great. So, yeah, it's not a bad strategy which route which also ties into Western strategy where he was I think which was good. But at the same time he's playing it's a big gamble because he's essentially hoping that everybody else times out and you can finish ahead of them because if they don't as we solve Hunter wouldn't have got stuck behind in here in a timed out he sent you could have beat West yeah in the standings right? It's plain. It's taking a gamble. I think you're going to determine that by your body how its feeling because you do need a break. I think to try and knock it all out. It's probably not my pay. Let's maybe do if you can try and do too. That's what I'm saying. Then hit a couple of those puzzles in between slow it down, right? If you do 2 each time that gets you through three let you to 2 and then 1 c 2 T 1 that gives you three laps and you have to those Huff the last one and just deal with it. So that's why I was thinking of the hardest thing out of the way first like doing hill Sprints first and Walking right on the treadmill or something. If you're at the gym - yeah, and if you're a fast if you know back to is it too hard Wes and Theo were seemingly fine. They didn't seem to really be struggle. It's a fine. Let's scream when they were certainly exhausted but they were not like I'm shutting down I'm in pain. I mean Westside like my back is spasming when he was rolling the tire, but in terms of the endurance and actual running they were like, yeah, just some just going to keep going. Well, I mean Wes said he's in the best shape. His life and we all know about Theo being like apparently asked good good at everything. Right? So it's no it's no surprise to me that those two now. I mean consider we know we know we know what the finals which was just 124 miles and you know, they did great even really is like the sleeper of this whole season. Yeah, and we didn't see as much of him. We knew he was a great competitor and Olympic Athlete and we all were kind of like don't sleep on Theo but he didn't get a lot of camera time. So because of that it's like we're are I'm thinking turbo this entire time is going to kill it which of course he does. He apologize a sorry my body. I'm gonna keep it up. Yeah. He's just giving us everything we want from Turbo again. But yeah, we just didn't realize how good Theo. Well, this was literally his challenge to lose. He is a marathon runner and this was a marathon. So I mean, it's amazing that he did well, but I'm not super surprised if he's like built for this. Well that incredible after yeah, then he mentions he used to do spin so it's like, right For somebody who can do like when I Was a Race Car Driver I did. Yeah, I guess like in fifth grade. He like one this puzzle contest of like to building a Hyundai puzzles. As far as fast you can it like a hundred pieces. He did the past just made that up. The rate we're going against everything. Okay. Now that we've kind of done a little bit more than our overall thoughts. Let's break down this episode what kind of chronologically as the best of our ability will get down to the needy greedy. Okay, so we open up at the house. We asked to talk about turbo preparing for the final no one takes the challenge more seriously than turbo. This is absolutely hysterical at first. I was like, okay see just training like Rocky like he's doing the whole egg thing. He's got to eat an entire planet. 12 eggs and is going to run on the treadmill like this is just for training turns out he's doing it so that way he could be prepared for eating an entire heaping portion of food and then having to run after it right like 10 steps ahead of anybody who's ever competed on this challenge. No one's ever practice. Like write jokes on turbo if there's no anyone in the second round, by the way, which I mean they didn't show us much in the preview, but they look to be any food around so I don't know that sucks. But yeah good great preparation. That's intense man. That is crazy. Like dude. I've already said it but turbos my faith his Just intensive using mind is just it's out point. It was die for the assembly literally things that he says are just so great. Yes, he's talking about he's at the end about the IV in cardinality IVs like you need gasoline in the engine. And so true. That's very true. I love that. He says everything that's like slightly morbid with a smirk to he's like, no one else would die for this. Yeah. Yeah, but for poor turbo in this lunge did start to look like whether I was like he aged in this so he was sunburnt and sort of trained. I was like someone was like, right. Yeah, exactly exactly. He was like, alright musty body, but his body was like helicopter, which is a complete red herring. Oh, yeah, sickening just like jumping on tables like harnessing our inner stripper like loving this helicopter. And then we see this janky-ass truck pull up that does look like it's full of rust and tetanus and this is going to be called pain longer chain Locker. Hey Locker. Hey Locker. It's like oh this is gonna be their treacherous ride to the fire that just sounds so horrifying right off the bat like it might be like saw or something exactly. On the pain lock nobody wants that so and so wait the helicopter was just TJ's travel mug. I'm thinking they just spray paint those seats make them look Rusty, by the way. At Disneyland every week and I just need and so this is I'm all over the place clearly Daddy. Yeah the final and this is where we figure out what the format of the file is going to be one of the logistics. So they're going to be running on what we call the death path and it sure as hell looks like a death path. I mean two people nearly died first day. It's going to be 50 miles long. We got 24 miles tonight with several Killzone scattered throughout Kill Zone 1 Is six miles times 4 so this is a figure eight half of the course being biking half being Marathon running with five games five obstacles. You have to complete all of them the whole point of completing the obstacles. It's just too quick in your time. So you get the quickest time, but if you don't finish them you just time out and there's no like deficit or grenade or anything throw your way before we move on. You know the obstacles the endurance how everybody's performing Georgia Maddie kind of tapping out. Did you have something you'd like to tell the viewers eyes? We want to thank you for making us the ESP LTD talk. Obviously, we want you to leave, you know, five star rating on that iTunes over there and you know, leave us a comment over here and subscribe. Give us some give us some subscription. I'm gonna stare at Jenna as I say my Skrill, this is great now guys, thank you so much for being with us. And we really appreciate we love being here at AfterBuzz TV. So, please leave us a comment. Tell us how much you love after few TV AfterBuzz TV so we can stay on the air and you know do off Thang. We love our loyal live Chatters walk heart has always in their Shadow Patterson's always love to love love. Blown, I don't know if that really happened. But anyway, the final starts bam and we see them start stretching through the sand and immediately. I'm thinking I always think how hard it must be for them to do endurance challenge without any music because I completely enhance your workout and I always think that whenever I watch a challenge, I'm like damn they're doing this in the sun in the south in the heat no music no motivation. Also nothing but 24 miles ahead of them. Well, you're not doing it for A million dollars that when you are working out so there's a little more motivation but I feel yet the headphones dip out or something. It's like no it's the worst thing ever. I'm sitting there thinking with every step that goes by how awful this is. So we take off Theo's killing it Wes is killing it and then Jordan killing it right behind them in third place. We see her the first girl third place. She hops on this bike. She gets going then we see a lot of the people are using the strategy of walking the bike instead of writing it I guess maybe Tough terrain it's hard to write in the sand Hunter is walking and turbos even walking it. We see Georgia. She's riding it but then starts to kind of lose her mind her eyes her sight everything her help. She helps out the bike then she tries to like drag the bike with as if as if that's the best way to do it try and like throw it in front of her use all of her body weight and then all of a sudden like she's trying so hard and my heart goes out to her. I feel so bad. Yeah, that's what I was saying before like, All of their minds and their hearts are in this but she just can't do anything like she completely black. Yeah and the poor thing. She's like, I'm so embarrassed. She's saying she's so embarrassed. I felt so bad for right but I mean, you can't you can't knock her on that like she literally passed out like she was out. Yeah that point, you know what I mean? I wonder how long the producers left her in the sand like that just to see if she get back up before they actually came and helped her but she was out cause you no trouble like that is so Kick-Ass. It's just such great endurance like you think that she's going to get up you think that this is just like, okay. She needs a few minutes. Yeah. What point do they say? All right then for all the haters out there like oh George you shoulda kept going. She's asking if bear in America it was Gone with the Wind this girl cannot compete anymore. Remind me of when Leroy was telling us about how after he fell off the phone and fought in Russian or whatever. Yeah Carl friend was with he was asking God for something like no longer there I guess and I guess she just max all her energy out too hard in that heat too fast. Yea, I was even telling like you Jen member I was like, whoa. I'm like impressed. The George is in third position, right? She was kicking but I was super like stoked as like wow. I mean, I think like literally as she's getting that place where she was gassing out. She should have can't take a step back started drinking water. She's clearly dehydrated slow the heart rate get back to normal State catch your breath, you know, but she's trying to force it and just literally and we saw it hot and ended huh. We start we saw with Ninja that she sort of passed out. They've monitored her and said your body is checking out George. I'm assuming the medic said you are not like fit. Yeah, like there's no, you know as bear here, you know, there's no which also broke my heart. Yeah that because well then now cuz you know the future of that whole yeah on your deathbed of that point. Yeah that one person I guess you care about the most in right? Here's I don't know what Hawaii maybe she thought he was still in Africa or still somewhere around that maybe well, I don't think we saw that Morgan and bananas like hung out for a while before they left they were posted. Stuff all over the body just been hoping that he was at least like a few other thing drives away when you're delirious and you're like I want I want my bear. Like, it's my my you know, you want a comfort zone and into the I was surprised. I thought the same thing would have counted for her like once you're out you're out. I was surprised they let her go back in. Well, they checked I think they should check your Vital Signs. They were like, well, you're good to keep going. I mean, they just obviously just deducted the time of her sitting in a car ninja goes from eyes rolling in the back of her head looking like she's going needing to be helicoptered out of there on a gurney. On her deathbed to having the most energy out of anybody in this entire challenge for them to run around being so energetic. Like wow. I love this game. It's a gas dead five seconds and for the producers to disqualify her for having no control over body and just passing out. That would have been BS to me let her back and you guys put her in this situation. So she asked to pass out, you know, so yeah. I'm also that how do you guys feel about Maddie because we see Georgia. I think Georgia was more of a victim of her shoddy her body shutting down. Uh, yeah, Maddie kind of she's walking along. She's jogging a little bit here and there and then she just she comes to the conclusion to herself. Like I'm not going to make this. I'm gonna sit down do you think it's different? I mean David had the day I thought David was on point, but that was I was with David on it. I don't agree with Matty because I feel like the fact that when she was able to walk back. She's still coherent. She was still able to function like you made it that far you've gone through all that. I mean like you said Ninja literally passed out George. It was just done, you know, but ninja came back and so computer like she was just checked out mentally. You just gave up and to me. It's an experience of a lifetime. You never you might never ever get not through this again. You might not get to do it. And you know, your you can just walk the rest of it absolute walking right now just keep walking and finish your time and see what the next you're going to get IV that night. Like come on. Very true about you Pam. I don't know what to make of that. I kind of yeah, I'm having a hard time with it because we know TJ from what we saw it looked like she just sort of was like I can't and gave up and quit. We know TJ hates nothing more than a quitter. He didn't really shame her so it Leads me to believe she really was more shutdown than what we possibly song Anymore a little bit ashamed to live with a smoker but that but then also you got to look at turbo Turbo look to be in worse shape than even if you go to Hunter you look to be in pretty bad shape to and they both they both said screw it. I'm just gonna keep going know this challenge pushes you to your absolute limit when turbo falls down and we saw massaging rubbing out some sort of cramp something you had punch legs touching and that was sad to see but we see him get back up and finish but it's almost The point where I want to say that there's something to Maddie quitting but I almost don't consider quitting. I don't want to go. Yeah anybody quote-unquote, but I don't know if I'm disappointed in her or Georgia I disappointed. I don't think I can be because I cannot imagine what it's like to do what they did tonight. And if you're at the point again with Pam, I think that her body was shut down to the same point as the other two. I mean sure she did it fall over and maybe didn't pass out but I think she was still kind of on that level just her face and her mind. I was was fake was a better polarized but I thought you got it heading there she got so we didn't she didn't actually collapse. I think she still was headed are magic put my body through that so I know but but no and you guys quit you must have been at your limit turbo saying he will literally die. When if you're mad and you're not this is a situation where being big and strong like turbo and Maddie isn't as beneficial as being life like Theo and if turbo was that hurting and you're Maddie and you imagine feeling the same and going through that sort of for no, I mean not that she should quit but I do think if you're shutting down to that level, I'm definitely more forgiving for this. Yeah. I mean, it wasn't like we saw Georgia actually collapse after one lap Maddie at least did a few and did some things. I mean the fact that she stopped before she actually fell down dead. I don't really here's the thing though. I don't think we're seeing that we wouldn't have the opportunity to win. And dollars we're thinking of doing this for like as a freebie. Like we're just gonna go out tonight and run the streets of LA for free. No their get money if they win this thing. So unless I'm in Georgia's position and I'm thinking Bears coming to like be my hero and save me you're not just gonna keep going. Like I said, your butt is crawling dude right here. Like my daddy's had just as hard as all of them. Yeah great season. Yes, but this is where it counts just like they say it any sports right? Watch it. Everything counts in the finals like your whole season goes wiped away when The playoffs like know that had to go saying before so there's a difference between being sore and being injured right play through soreness. So you can run through a final if it's maybe like eight miles in the heat if it's 24 miles, there's a difference between being hurting and nearly died. And if they feel like they're literally going to die on more forgiving what was Maddie's injury. She wasn't it? No I'm saying but just the analogy of it can play through soreness right enough sleep, but you can trust daily play through a torn MCL, you know a torn ACL, okay. A broken leg like there's yeah hurt and sort of what you do. You think Maddie should have continued know I think that all these people that are nearly died are basically or sorry injured rather than store Jenna saying I think if I can surmise are we calling this a quit or a body failed hard because all right. Let's go around the room real quick. It's a great job. So I'll say quit as well and somewhere in between. Was it tips towards the quit because if you had literally keep going and you stop then it's a quit but I thought this was so hard but again of all and props to this season because these people are not Kayla and you know, Jamie these are turbo and the oh, these are athletes like this is a different level of competition and also props to Wes and Hunter for doing as well as they're doing right now because I don't think Ashley what? A 1 if this was the fact, you know what I'm saying? Like this is a different levels. This is an interesting thought there for sure. So let's take a bow. He's blue and he's just kind of do you think it's experience? Yeah. Absolutely. No. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he's playing a good many. I'm just prepping to it's everything he did before we saw him on TV this time. He said he's in the best shape of his life. So setting up his little rookies in advance was smart. He does play it smart. Himself, he Paces himself. Yeah, Wes is great and it was using Burgers is getting protein. He throw he's thrown out quotes. Like if you're not a little scared, you're not prepare you go stirring the pot so you can see flowers right there. Can we move it? Because we are running out of time. What do you guys think about the obstacles when they finally got to the checkpoint the mini games the games? So some of them are kind of janky some of the kind of carnival games. I'm gonna the ring toss. How can people so good at this right? I would say what finally when car locked up. I was like finally someone someone sucks at this. Everybody's like be lying is way that that wasn't the hardest game though. The hardest get paged was no pussy. I pyramid scheme that we can what is it? No, I don't even know what it is. Nobody knew what to do II saw them. Try to him like you want that's only one West. Did he got that one? No, it's okay. No, I didn't hear it's keyboards. I don't think we were supposed to know is viewers. I think you know, when did what up BS game? That was? Yeah. I don't think they were allowed to say it by name but West described it as a you know, a popular mathematics game, but with color so it seems my legs. You think they legally can say. Oh actually Hunter said security. And appreciation moment for Hunter because he has be doing a puzzle and like he's like it doesn't matter if I'm fresh or if I'm tired. This is what's gonna happen. Like I was hysterically laughing like he got the he got the ball stick pushing the ball game Rampage. He got that one Hunter Hunter do that to me personally seemed like the easiest one realistically. I think I did okay on that. Well, I think that I think the tire through the whole know that's that's pretty challenging. Yeah, that was hard turbo again. Superhero turbo Charmaine ahead of himself. He didn't know his own strength. He rolled in. He wrote like miles have to go run and chase it. The 20 miles is super strength rolled it. Do you guys think he think these games could have been harder are you happy with how they was happy? I think they really were almost a resting point. They're justified by if you get wrecked because it provided a lot of Comedy to and just yeah and Cara's comment game was on point tonight more than usual with like I loved her car to let me say I start car was so cute. When she said come on little ball. Would you come on what's happening to me? As you can see it's a fluke car one not the people are saying it's a fluke. We know she's a good competitor, but it's like to win again. Yeah, no one can take that away from you. You're proving you deserve to be waiting these things and I want that for her car was hysterical is that she was good and I love that she kept chugging along because she kind of got off to a rough start heard Hunter. I'm really proud of because it looked like those are the ones that might aha quit like carbs like, oh, I can't walk. I can't run but she finish it completely announced weeks her experience her endurance and her mentality until we get It and tell right? Oh God. Yeah. Yeah, I think everybody who's stayed it competed really? Well, like I don't sleep video knocked out of the park with West right behind him and turbo, but I think Hunter sure he would he finished last but I still think I'm proud of him for even finishing be finished. He's the worst at endurance. I think Cara she chugged along she stay with it. She did really good and she was hysterical and yeah, yeah and ninja but from zero like literally Into being awesome. So everybody who stuck with it ended up finishing great, even though they were crawling and Crawling by the time this was done. I think I think they timed out at 20 minutes because car finished at 6:43 and Hunter didn't get to finish till 703 and he timed out on that final puzzle. He had to wait for her. So I think they got 20 minutes to complete each one if I'm doing my math 125. Okay, we actually said 25. Yeah, I think the first place he's at five hours 34 minutes west of in second place at 5 hours 44 minutes. Okay, only 10 minutes behind wow, turbos and third and five hours 50 minutes nearly six hours ninja finishes with six hours 35 minutes cars behind were her behind her 10 minutes six hours 43 Hunters. Only one that finishes in the 7:00 hour time slot seven hours three minutes, so kind of behind the pack, but that could also be due to car has pyramid scheme. 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We love this because now someone after they can't even walk you see how much pain they're in and then they're going to have to probably go into a head-to-head elimination and I'm just like this is the best final ever. Yeah. Well that mean that was like the greatest You see all this so broken and beaten up like you're just like you feel bad for him. And it's like here we go with the truck. Exactly. Yeah. So should we then hop back into the pail awkard? So everybody happening good takes Ankara phobia for needles. Come on Cara. That's fine. Come on Cara. You are jumping out of planes. You are swimming and climbing ropes and running 50 miles a needle that's gonna refresh your body, especially as a health a fitness. Bert suck it up I get it finally a phobia. She's obviously very scared of needles I get it but we're not talking about having a buzzsaw to the brain. We are talking about in the tornado perking she's never given blood up the doctor that's gonna hit actually if you want to win you need to be re hydrated as turbo said I hate it too. I loved everything about car this episode except that but like couldn't cover your arm. It was so extra like come on that was sort of like a mentality thing. Check out here T hydrated your heated your yeah. It's been a long day. But at the same time if I'm if I'm Theo and cars tell me to cut off my arm, like scary. Go check take a look. It's in a book reading want to get the hell out of here. Here's the thing from a guy that it believe or not. I hate needles like I really hate it. Like it has a lot of tattoos, but I hate needles and so I sympathize with her. I tried to get it but that is a situation where you have to suck it up your body just like yeah, you need that IV like you need it and she should be smarter than that. I wish I would have even taken out of Polly was here. He told me to do it. If she did it. It was ridiculous that she's not going to get the hydration. She needs. Okay. Look. Yeah great. You have a phobia of needles that sucks. And I feel bad for you to close your eyes and help your body out everyone everyone in the live chat. Like oh people have phobia. Well guy, you're trying to help her. You've never see you. Don't you don't go get a physical car and give blood you did. So it's happened. You've done it before it's all you've never done million dollar just so scared of needles that she's willing to deprive her body of what it needs, but she's just Shoot yourself in the foot if it comes down to the final. Yeah, but here is her take on another she commented on the challenge MTV awesome Instagram. And she said in the meantime, I will be sure to laugh at all of you for being terrified of lame shit like being buried alive or lying in a coffin of snakes Etc. That should would it make me bad an eyelash. We are all effed up and our own unique ways. I'm a superhero. I don't pass out of finals one banana in 23 miles and 24 hours and I Soldier on what Banana, if I have one bananas like and by three our office desk job on like I need food those things that she's comparing it to aren't going to revive you. So saying being scared of being in a coffin. It's stupid. I'm scared of snakes. My previous things are shitty million dollar bills and re hydrated and nourished. I would touch a snake. I would be terrified. I mean that like heart gripping palpitation fear. I have with snakes. Oh, I get it. Like, you know, if I just stick my I don't know if I could do what if I had Million dollars and it was going to nourish me I do it. Okay, so well, you know, she's gonna thank our freaks out he freaks out. Yeah, shall we get into some predictions for this tribunal? I'm so excited about this sure we're digging for that. I'm just mad because I want her to win. So I'm like your medicine girl. Okay, so let's get into the tribute only get we see Wes Theo and turbo on the head of the a tribunal they come out and we ended on a cliffhanger obviously and we also lost like an extra minute or two with our feed. So we have no idea who they're going to pick to go into this tribunal. So it's they can pick between Cara ninja and Hunter and it's Theo turbo and West picking who do you guys think is going in? Well, I don't even understand how it's gonna work. So they just pick one person. They maybe get a time to duct like they can't disqualify him from the game. You think that I don't think is gonna go that far. That's not that's that's PS that would be so I don't know I agree with I don't even know are they going to pick someone and then that person pick someone and they do a traditional elimination round. Are they gonna pick someone to have to have a sleep outside in the cold night breakfast in the morning something like that or a penalty? I mean, honestly, I know hunters and last place. I think they're gonna I think they're gonna put hunter in because they don't know what that next day is maybe it's something we have to be super strong or something. I want Hunter to do well, so I think the for a hunter in the tribunal, I don't know what that means. They're gonna do ninja eating its own engine. Okay? Yeah because Theo was partnered with Cara so That's an alliance Wes is with Hunter Hunter and sort of card. No relationship with Ninja and turbo has an active chemical look at it now though. It's so late. And like it's the last little bit like like like like wet cares now west doesn't care at this point, but I feel like nobody has this particular Alliance to ninja so if anyone's going to get picked, it's her. What do you guys think? It's a good call politically. Yeah. I wasn't thinking politics just off of you know, the sir formance. Maybe I've already entered second-to-last both of them. So they're also less Rach she's also right she's in fourth. Yes. Yeah just on paper without even thinking heavily about the politics. I was just thinking Cara because she freaked out over the IV and everybody was kind of like, oh, that's okay. I take that back because that might make them want to keep her right? Right, right. So they probably will do ninja because ninja did really well on the first heat and obviously, yeah out our endurance like she almost died. I got back up and did it and did it with flying colors with the most energy of a toddler. So they're probably going to try and get her out. Yeah, you get it. Hunter I was thinking they might want to keep around because he has the longest time. Well, let's be real here and every tribe, you know, they've chosen to people to go against each other. So if they do do what Hunter versus ninja yes, I mean that's mean saying well if they can stand on one leg on a platform. There's got to be something that's going to be obviously in theory. They got to pick two people. Well the way it always breaks down is that the person they picked picks, but they still talk. Okay fair enough, you're right. But either way there's your there's any to so who's the other person we're going to pick up. Right. My prediction is that it's not going to be a head-to-head. And so I hope not because God I like I like the standing on a pole all night. That's that'd be crazy. Some people that I think I know what I like that's funny to me. I like that one, which is so brutal. I don't want to do it but I like to watch it. I liked it. I liked to hear them all get mad. Yeah. Oh no, I'm really excited for next week. I think that's the last episode right and then a 3 unit I would think so. Oh you guys gonna think is gonna win this whole thing I sang. I mean, I mean he was performing. I guess I will say, you know turbos my guy. I want to root for Turbo just going strictly off a performance right now. I say Theo has it. I mean, how could you not write the second leg of this more of the same like the he thinks that it's 50 miles total. We see turbo pass out. So it's clearly they're still running or they're moving another 25 miles or whatever. They got 26 to make it like I don't want to laugh at all. But the fact that turbo said he would literally die for this and then they keep showing him my guy. Those producers tricking us. So therefore it must mean that turbos gonna win right downhill slide ride. Like is there some sort of hopefully they're not going to put them through this again. These people are incredible because I could never do this the way when we see that about every challenge a marathon runner. He said he's never run that much. That's true. I can do this. It is insane that really pushing themselves. Oh my God our does anybody have anything before we quickly go to news and gossip? Let's do it. Let's now that Shut up to ask the vindictive on Twitter. Thank you so much for tweeting at Pam Dan. And I don't think you're on a date. Thanks. Thank you. I'm sure a lot of you guys have you seen this already? But if you have it be sure to check out the bananas and Wes Mari clip is just absolutely ridiculous and hysterical because they do the entire like Mari package where it's like not black and white but almost a distilled like discolored. Was he package, but it's like a crime show last walking in Coloma walking in the street bananas on top of a building. I mean we're obsessed with who if Wes is obsessed with me and then wasn't like Johnny just is so intimidated on the hottest Ginger that has ever lived that it's like what is going on at Mari? Well, if they if you ever watch more in the 90s like I did they do it's a great parody of exactly what they would do with like real life situations other people are obviously just making fun, which is really great. Daddy yeah, that's what it is. It's a lot of texture test is all it is. Yeah, that's probably for the entire time was a paternal test, right? So do they have a kid or they adopting a kid together? Like what's the bombshell here? But it was just a lie detector over who's more obsessed with her. Did you see quickly to see when they showed West as a baby in the episode? Hey, did you see what they said underneath baby West they said the baby hates all baby food with bananas and I was like, that's cute. That's funny Q. Yeah. Mara and take a look at that maybe a little bit more on the bear situation according to what was it called like Jay the JJ report and we're not going to dwell too long on this but as bear here, no bear is with a 15 year old that he's well aware of the fact that she's underage. The JJ report said that it's well known in the area, but she's not get 16 and that the Instagram that he sends deleted is playing a song about underage girls. So I think the whole he he didn't know poor bears. Is kind of out the window. It's almost like he's acknowledging it and posting a bike rally and Instagram. So he's apparently taking I don't know. I didn't see that script but the background song is like she's 15. She's underage. Right? So like what it's very bright right very bad timing and that's problematic for someone who's everyone in the neighborhood or wherever knows about her. She must be sort of a local tart. I don't know. It's like like her name and age has been printed in several States apparently, so it should be no surprise that she was underage right but with bear It's an Instagram. I think it was a selfie story that he posted as well is that he looks like he's in the next season because he's like, oh mercy. I'm leaving next Tuesday for filming for the show. So I guess no one cares about what just happened is probably already done and dusted all the sudden and three doesn't care about maybe having a pedophile. Let's get this. I mean, it's super illegal here and it yet he's gonna be on season 34 maybe not in England. Maybe she's allowed to hang out at the pub but and and you can pick up and about 15. Yeah. That's a quick quickly. Here's my news and gossip speaking of challenge 34 apparently bananas is going to be on it and according and according to King Skyfall 96 on Instagram. He hit me up DM and said that it's going to be bananas final session. Oh, no, that's what I've been told who else is rumored cast of 34. Do we always at? There's yeah, they're all I looked at her. Mommy. They got some big got some good ones. Yeah and ECT. I don't think I saw a CT on their he's like a maybe they had like a yes maybe and I know it's a shock that out. I believe Jake. He was a know if you guys have any JP lovers out there. I can't say she leaning a people here that I think she means to know as well, but we can't hate on her anymore. Shuffle never occurred to me. You can say the saline line over and over again. I love it because each time I go who and laughing you're bad. Yeah, I believe that if we are correct. It looks like season 34. They took off Her filming yesterday. I think or today I got hurt today to yeah film now and then also if you're in the MTV family looks like Ex on the Beach season 3 I did film and that it's wrapped down the people who are rumored to be on the cast are now popping up on social media app. So look out for that soon as well. Okay, there we go tonight. Thank you guys for being with us insane final. I'm so excited to see who wins and hopefully everybody finishes going forward and no wheels past. I hope so true. Thank you guys so much for being with us. My name is Jenna underscore Bussy, actually. Coming underscore underscore its derailed guys. It's derail Delirious from the eat carrots. Don't do that made an where are you? My name is d-dan Lindgren. You can find me at Daniel lingered all dang it. 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