We have a good one for you here today. Have you ever thought you know, I really figured my work would bring me more joy that it would fulfill me that I would be doing something that I'm passionate about. If so, you're not alone. Welcome into the rise with Ryan podcast. I'm your host Ryan Borowski. And I have shared strategies on this podcast about this very same topic from some of the best thought leaders in this space but in a time where so many people have these questions when it comes to waking up every day with a burning passion that fulfills you in living a truly successful life. This may be the most helpful advice you'll ever get I am so excited guys. We have our very first guest with us here today. It is Joe chambray low and actor and writer and he had these same questions. But he discovered his passion pursue that passion and not only pursued it but has thrived in that work Joe is a reoccurring co-star on the renowned soap opera. I'm sure you've heard of it Days of Our Lives. He is one of four leads on an independent film from Amazon titled The Fast and The Fierce from the same production company that made Sharknado. He guest-starred on a comedy pilot for Netflix alongside Frankie Muniz. He has co-starred on Conan O'Brien show doing sketches with Deon Cole. And he is here with us today ready to share his journey Joe. Thanks so much for being here. Thanks Ryan. Yeah, that was nice. That was some of the nicest things anybody's ever said about me. Thank you. Hey, well, here's the thing and you know this you may not admit it. It's all true. I mean you are doing some incredible things in your work now, but one of the things I'm most excited about by having you on the show here today is your Beginnings in your journey to get to where you are here today. You look at somebody like You grew up on the East Coast grew up in sports in Connecticut. Not necessarily a Hollywood upbringing didn't spend a ton of time. If any time around the Arts yet. We sit here today with your resume and you're doing incredible work in Hollywood. What are some things you did to discover your passion along this journey sure. So I just kind of picked that up a couple different things in high school. Like I was like you mentioned into sports and at somewhere along the way I decided okay. I'm not going to play sports in. College because I'm not going to play professionally so like The Logical side of me was like well, let's try to figure out what else I'm going to do. What else am I good at? I took like a Myers-Briggs assessment test and it said like you should be a business executive and like my dad was a business executive. So I kind of started gearing up for that path. I did end up going to business school. But yeah, it was honestly man. Like I had to figure out like what the hell I actually wanted to do and the business thing seemed like a A safe thing but on the side I was you know writing poems. I was writing stories. I was making sketches that was making videos and I I love that but I just didn't really, you know, it didn't occur to me that that's a path that I could take. So I ended up really I won't point. I kind of broke down to my dad at some time before College. I can't remember exactly what your of high school I was like what what am I going to do? And you know, he was supportive and kind of guided me towards business or something that he knew. It was safe. And so it just was a long process of figuring it out. And I believe we're going to get into it. But along the way I kind of had that creative side just burst through me and take over at some point. Now, you mentioned your dad a couple times. Was that an important thing for you to make sure that you kind of had his approval on what you were doing. Yeah. Why do you think that was? Yeah. I mean, it's just been a role model for me my entire life and he's been really successful. He you know was pretty much the epitome of corporate ladder guy, but, you know did really well in his work worked really hard and it was admirable and you know, I looked up to that and I saw maybe a streamline sort of linear path to success that he could probably advise on and help me with we just always bonded over. Over similar things and you know and none of which was you know, theater or writing poems or sketches or anything that might have to do with going to Hollywood to be an actor. So I think I just sort of push that side of things down a little bit because I didn't think that would be something we would Bond over that he would maybe approve of or be able to help me with so It just kind of you know, just took its course from there. Pretty much. Yeah, what you're describing there is pretty common. Right? I mean, it's common for a son to want to really be like their father and Tony Robbins has a question that he'll always ask and I'll say whose love did you crave the most growing up and of course you create your mom and dad's love both we all did but usually there's a dominant one that we Craven oftentimes for guys. That's why I want to be like my dad, right, you know, it's a generational thing to with the We grew up in our parents a lot of our parents for the first to go to college and get an education and I'm sure there was a lot of pressure on them to use that education to get a job and so on and so forth and create a better live live for their children and and then it sort of gets to a point where then they can now say. Okay. Well you you need a better life than me. Like you can do whatever you want to do and be whatever you want to be but then it's when push comes to shove a little bit. Don't blame parents out there for this but it's like yes, you could do and be whatever you want to be with within the confines of what I know might be safe and structured in that that can help you with because otherwise that will be scary. There's somebody listening to this Joe that's locked in on what you're talking about. Right? That is thinking that's me right now. I just have this fear. I have this doubt that whatever I want to become may not align And with what my parents expectations are. Right. What advice would you have for them? Who you know? You just have to be selfish about it. You have to go with your instincts somewhere along the way mine kicked in a little bit and you don't know what pressure your parents were facing from their parents as maybe being the first to get those opportunities and what they may have sacrificed themselves to you know, please their parents, you know, follow your instincts if something's creeping in go after it and whether it's like an incremental steps fine if it takes a while find it probably will and Good. It's it's a long path. So follow those instincts get selfish with the try to put aside know what others might think even if you know those others are your parents and you know, you value their opinion. I mean, trust me. I know that feeling more than more than anybody. Yeah, and I think judgment is whether it is parents whether it's relatives or friends or anything like that. That's real, right. That's a real emotion that people feel and unfortunately. Lee a lot of times there's that fork in the road and most people just end up taking that safe path for whatever reason it may be and I think that's why it's exciting to have you on here because you really decided to follow your instincts and do things like that that which you up that fulfilled you let's talk about some of those instincts that you felt early on because again, we may have people who are like well what are my instincts? I don't know what they are right you help me? What were some right indicators you had that pan? This might this might be it and I'm not on the athletic field. I'm not in the boardroom. I am somewhere. I did not expect to be but damn this feels good. Yeah, I mean in high school, I started, you know making videos when there was class projects and you know writing these stories that I would perform and I would get this satisfaction and fulfillment out of it. That was like Beyond scoring a touchdown or hitting a home run something was there and I didn't quite latch onto it because I was still going to go to business school and you know follow this linear path that I thought I was going to be on and you know little things came up. My roommate was a film minor we co-wrote and I starred in his thesis film that ended up winning the film festival at the school and locally and Providence Rhode Island, and and that was great. And so there's there's little things along the way that is okay. Maybe maybe I can really go after A little bit earlier we were talking about right now. You're getting some evidence and proof on who you are because you're starting to feel that right when you're going through and doing these activities whether you're writing its poetry producing videos and film festivals. You start to feel okay. There's something here a lot of times. It's tough to really put a finger on what that is. It's much easier to put a finger on who am I not I kind of know who I am. I'm building it up to this ten year span. An but it is clear as day as who I am not. So let's write your in Boston at this point. I believe right? You're in a graduated college Business Degree sales job. Who are you not? I'm not someone who is going to go to an office and work inside sales for 9 hours a day. And that is totally fine. It just was not me. I was not somebody who couldn't be creative and use creative ideas towards you know, a bottom line. I figured out I'm not from the east coast and I love the East Coast but I don't know if I'm someone who enjoys the cold weather as much as I thought we're not like seem Like an arbitrary thing had some grueling Winters in Boston man where I was walking a long time to a job that I didn't want to be at and that kid get ug ended pretty quickly. But so I just yeah, it wasn't someone who could be in an office. I needed face-to-face connection and interaction. I needed creative freedom. Yep. And so I kind of figured out a little bit who I couldn't be here's what I'd like for all the listeners to do if you're listening to this and you're thinking you know, this is Jose where I want to be I want to find out who I am. I'd like for you all to make a list and part of that list will be who you are and think about some of the indicators that Joe had and write those down things that just make you feel alive and Joe feel free to chime in on this and then the other part of that is who am I not because everything we do in life is going to be to avoid pain and order to gain pleasure. So when you look at a list like that Joe whether you wrote this down or you just did it in your Ed you looked at who am I not and tried to get away as quick as possible and ran towards the who am I to get into the pleasure and I think that'd be a really good activity to take it out of your head and onto paper. What do you think about that jail for the listeners? Yeah. I think that's great. I wish you know, I had someone telling me to do that back when I was figuring it out in the trenches. I think it's great. You did figure it out. Right? So you went through that whole process where to streamline that Forum. So let's talk about that a little bit. More we know who you're not at this point. We know that there's still some challenges right you still have loyalty to those loved ones around you who are really rooting for you to do certain things. But what did you do to then build up the proof on the who are you? I almost like it is like, okay. I'm going to show the world who I am. So what are some things you did to do that while you are still working there full-time job sure. I started taking improv classes. I started doing theater. I got signed with an agent and a modeling agent a commercial agent. Film agent in Boston. I started taking steps because you know, we all sit there and think like we can't change things or it's too late. It's not it really isn't. I don't know what made me take these steps but something in me did and I'm so thankful for it. But yeah, I would take improv classes three nights a week acting classes on the weekends. I like I said sign with that agent and start getting modeling gigs and Commercial gigs and just doing all that stuff on the side bit added a level of Fulfillment for me that made, you know the job that was putting food on the table or allowed me to pay my rent much more bearable because there was an excitement, you know to an everyday cuz I loved those improv classes and the acting classes and it inspired me to start writing more sketches and you know using equipment from the office. I was working act to film some sketches because they were starting to support me and it just kind of snowballed into more of an excitement and more of like, I'm I'm going towards something. And moving forward at least even if it's you know, an unknown place that I'm going or even if it's slower than I wanted. At least I was taking steps towards, you know, figuring out what I was gonna do once I leave this office job that I didn't like there's so much power and progress right and seeing progress because what that then does is now it gives us some hope so as you go through that I didn't hear that you're like, hey, there's some there's some hope now there's some progress there's light at the end of the tunnel. It's I'm not running towards who I'm not I'm running towards who I am and it may not be like the Band-Aid off. I'm in LA tomorrow, but you're making progress there that right. There is that's inspirational because I'm probably seems like a ways away you were working your butt off at that time. So that's pretty awesome. And I'm so happy everyone gets to hear that especially given to where you are today. Let's talk a little bit about validating skills walk us through your validation process for those of us listening thinking. Okay. I think I don't passionate about this. I want to step into it. How should I validate? Sure. Yeah, I mean it just sort of if you are enjoying the work of your inspired by it. There's a little bit of validation in and of itself and then so I think that's first and it's still hard to you know have that self validation without other people telling you or any monetary success, but for me, I mean I started doing local theater after you know some months and I took some acting classes in college and I was doing all the Improv classes, but man I had a really good gig and a local Teti. I did the theater production of A Few Good Men and it was so great. It was the camaraderie that I felt in sports. It was you know Live Theater it was exhilarating that like shook me to my core with with how much satisfaction I got with that. So and I didn't I probably got paid nothing for that. But then you know, I do this commercial and I get paid more in one day from that commercial and I have in a week of working in this office job and it's like, whoa, what's going on here? I needed to see some some money. From this before I took it to the next level. I really did but that combined with the feelings. I got after a theater production were great. So it it just depends on how you operate and I had to figure that out. You know, how much am I going to go all in with this before? I haven't a certain amount of safety and validation and I think that's different for everybody. This is building up its build up to the full time moved to LA and I cannot wait it cannot wait to hear about this. So you have some proof you got some pretty Oof internally, you got some social proof externally. You're feeling good. You got some hope you're making progress still working your job before we just jump out to LA. I think there's some things that we should probably talk about that. Most people would have to discuss we talked about a little bit earlier how you really felt you wanted to follow a certain path because of your dad specifically and a lot of people have loved ones that they're really looking up to. How did that conversation go that conversation was tough. Like I said, I'm I'm gonna go to LA to do. This to be an actor and and you know, his reaction was concerned and I don't I don't blame them but it was it was hard man. I just wanted him to say like you go go for it. Like I'll support you how I can and it just didn't work out that way and it was it was like a gut-wrenching conversation to have to have it was hard to do and honestly my mom and dad they weren't discouraging they really weren't they just they had genuine natural concerns for their son making this major life and career change. And so, you know, of course when I say I wanted them to fully support me and encourage me and would have loved to heard. Wow. This is great. Go for it. We have no Like that's just isn't realistic and and honestly know if I were to do it over I would have probably communicated better with them and let them in more on this is what I wanted to do and maybe they would have given me a little bit more support and I think my girlfriend and now my wife at the time was really the only one I truly confided in and she was fully supportive and on board and that was hugely important for me and then my parents were accepting of It ultimately and they you know, they helped me financially to give me a little bit of a cushion. No, I made the trip out to LA. At one point my brother lived in San Diego. So I would visit him. I went there and took a bunch of meetings and did workshops and casting director interviews and all that and my mom actually help me pay for that. So, you know that there was that sense of willingness to help at least which was important and those meetings were important because I was assigned and I got him encouragement and then I started getting more support from my friends once I opened up and you know, so ultimately he had these Life Changes in these conversations there. They're difficult to have but there are people out there that will support you and I wouldn't be in LA right now and certainly would have been able to stay if it wasn't for for the the love and support of my wife and then out the believe my parents as well. Yeah, I think that's so important because nobody succeeds alone. It really does take a lot of people to come around you and sometimes Joe just takes time. Right it takes some as we talked about some proof to be able to show what you're doing. And I think that's probably what you experience there with your parents and like you said if you were to let them in earlier, what would that look like? I It you sharing that and I think it's so important for everybody to hear that. Hey, maybe sharing my dream isn't the worst thing. In fact, maybe I can get some affirmation. So there's a lot to be learned from that. So let's talk about Lala because this is just a whole nother world. I mean you've grown a ton to this point going back to not being a part of the theater at all Arts, but identifying things building up proof. We talked about a 10-year period at one point you ramp it up your in Boston working a full-time job doing theater at night you Get a trip out there and get some validation from some of the talent out there. Go back say hey, I'm making this move for good you are in La what is going through your mind at this point man? I walk into a casting office and not on the national movie star. Yes, we all know no, no that is not. I am immediately going out on auditions. Luckily and I just had a sort of like a grace period that I allowed myself to have Have and I got really lucky and that time I booked a couple National commercials some good print jobs just because I think I was kind of free. I opened myself up to like this is new. I'm going to try to just get acclimated to the city. I like got a life coach, which is something I had never heard of before. I don't know what brought me to that started making just some different like wellness changes in my life and just trying to focus on getting my feet under me and then I got lucky with some gigs and sort of met some people from the Aaron was enough highs to kind of get me through the eventual like sort of low periods that there would be definitely was not all gravy but it started out enough to give me confidence to ride that RollerCoaster. I was going to say that's a that's a big deal that point couple things. You mentioned their Wellness changes. What were some of the wellness changes you made? Yeah. I mean this life coach had me doing meditations and visualization exercises and breath work stuff and I End up joining a meditation Studio. I don't know if they have those yet where you have but their booming out here and then New York and I know there are some and so just kind of try and all yet helped yet just and then I was in acting classes and everything started to kind of align like there are parallels between what I was learning and doing and displeased great acting schools that I was in and this sort of Wellness work that I was doing on the side. There was a lot of connections and parallels that just made things click for me and I'm just like I Not someone who's just some free spirit like I need a certain amount of structure. I need to have some stability and this is a not a very stable career. So developing patterns and habits that I can Implement into my daily life that will just kind of affect my overall well-being was something that was really important and that's honestly something that helped me make the move over here. Like I know I needed a change deep down and obviously to be doing what I'm doing as an actor and writer the Los Angeles is the mecca, but it Was warm weather and palm trees and well just to kind of escape and sort of work on myself was almost as important to me as coming here to be an actor or a writer and luckily like I thought it would it just started aligning and there was a lot of correlation between the wellness work. I was doing in my acting work and I just knew that my life was changing. I have not done a ton of meditating, but I've heard nothing but great things about it and you love it. What do you love about I do I mean, I'm I'm a heavy person. I'm a competitive person that played Sports and sometimes it worked well for me, but sometimes it just doesn't and you need to what meditation does for me is it creates more space in between those thoughts because we have like 60 to 80 thousand hundred thousand thoughts a day, but meditation brings me to the present moment and creates more space and with more space comes best kind of where the Magic happens and yeah, I mean there's breathwork meditation. There's visualization exercises. Do you visualize these parts that you're going to get? Yeah. Absolutely. I can't tell you how many times I've like sat down and and it can be broad or specific like I've sometimes said like okay. I want you know, this this audition for an HBO show or can be a specific show or it can be I want more. I just want more peace in my life. Whatever it is. It could be brought or really And then just sitting into that visualizing it feeling it. How would you how would you walk I would you breathe if you've had that thing already go out there like you have that already and that'll allow you to operate from a place of of having already and not you know needing and not desperation and it'll Kickstart things and then you'll be surprised what the universe throws back at you. I love it, man. What you're talking about is scientifically based like there are facts out there and you can even go to some of the best most highly soul. Old books of all time The Seven Habits of Highly Effective People by Stephen Covey. And one of those is begin with the end in mind. He says all things are created mentally first and then physically so what he's saying is you have to visualize what that endgame go looks like and then you put first things first on okay. What am I going to do to get there? It's crazy what's happened with calling in some of the stuff and the opportunities I've gotten but sometimes I get that these opportunities that you know, I visualize and and Go in and we'll find you unprepared. I thought and then I blow it and it's all a whole other trend of thought of what happened that and you see man. It's it's it's tough. It's something that is learned and practiced. I think through the work I've done I'm able to bounce back a little quicker, but then it becomes relative depending on you know, how big this project might be or this role. I mean I'll I say a month ago. Maybe not even I had a big opportunity that I blew and I sat in my car and I cried like I haven't cried in a while and maybe I just needed to let it out and cry and you try to search for the lessons and that and that you've learned there's always and you just want to you know, slam your hand on the steering wheel and say screw that like I was ready to should have been my thing. Why do I have to learn any more lessons and it's hard. It's like I don't I'm not Out here just like, you know walking on clouds like it is tough and it's just a hole. It's a whole other process to deal with and I think you know, I just get back to work and I try to find the joy again and okay, even if I'm just working on an audition for like an acting class or if I get another audition like it just passes and you know that it passes and before, you know, I would have probably like had this rumination for weeks or you know a month after When something like that, and now that time is maybe you know three or four days or maybe it's a day, you know, it just doesn't help me to take it into the next auditioner to the next opportunity and that's something I wouldn't have even said before without kind of just trying to make these changes in the way I think and live and you know to toss there's no you know, there's no getting around it. That's tough. But it passes and move on to the next thing. I think that's a huge call out right there is it's not easy rejection is not easy in any any aspect of life, especially in a row like yours where I'm sure you are emotionally in it. I mean you that we could talk about the preparation process. I'm actually curious about that. But then you face this rejection and Tech what happens next and I think there is value in grief. I think there is value and just like let it out. That was not what I planned. It didn't go to my blueprint. I didn't visualize that but then you just kind of like you said two to three days after four days, but you start to find joy in that and I just love that you say that because It goes back to the very purpose of our conversation here today, which is find your passion because that's going to help you in so many ways and one of them could be dealing with rejection. I want to talk a little bit about the audition process. I mean you've been in we mentioned it a little bit earlier some really cool roles and your time out there talk us through what that process looks like. Sure. I mean, it's it's not foolproof and it's not the same every time I mean, I'll have sometimes I get an audition where I have two weeks to prep and times I get not dissing where I have two hours to prep. So for me, it's training. I mean I have had a lot of training been in some really good acting skills out here and you know, it's been over five years now, it feels like a full college education and acting so I feel like I just have tools for myself that I use to implement in my prep. So, you know, I'll get a script and I'll break it down and like a certain four step process that I learned that really works for me. I'll end up kind of working on it maybe with Mother is close to me and some of my acting class or even my wife is really helpful with all that and then you know, just get it in, you know, get the lines in get it in my body enough to feel confident and then just try to relax. I've been I've been talking a lot about you know work hard or you know, push and push like there's I don't mean it to be like you have to like put so much effort and or struggle or work. It's almost the opposite sometimes where you have to like let go and give it space and and take a step back like the hard work is great. The preparation is great. But there's a certain amount of trust. You know that I'm enough that I'm this character that I'm whatever industry, you know, you're in there's a there's a confidence level in a trust where you just pull back and let it open up for you and in really not push almost like kind of make it as effortless as possible and have some some he's so I've talked a lot about hard work and pushing but I don't mean to confuse that with the amount you should really trust and sort of pull back and things happen, so just kind of finding that balance for me depending on what the role is with really prepping without, you know overdoing it to the point where it becomes been authentic or where I you know don't have a certain level of freedom and play that I give myself when I go in so if it's been like a lull period for me or it's been weeks or months and something's popped and I have that desperation if I have that neediness when I go in it day smell it from a mile away and I imagine it's across the board many industry, but like I mentioned when I Is that and I say, you know what? I'm not going to not going to check my emails if I'm not getting these opportunities and I'm writing my own stuff and producing and filming and I just let go of that other stuff the other day auditions come in the opportunities come in because I let go of that desperation and I can imagine it's like I said across the board and anything if you have that sort of desperation, like people people know they could tell so yes do your prep. Yes, but find a way to you know come from a place of like already. I love that. So look at this reoccurring co-star. We talked about earlier Days of Our Lives am lead in an Amazon film guest-starred on a comedy pilot for Netflix. I mean you are you just had auditions we talked about earlier you're getting that activity you're doing a hell of a job and that's super inspiring. What are you struggling with right now? Who I mean, I still have a daily struggle of there's always something to do to be getting better. But there's also, you know a lot you can do to pull back and just a Allow yourself to live and have some space and so I struggle with you know, what to do to you know, be the most productive and what to do to be moving forward the fastest or and I struggle with honestly, like if I don't feel fulfilled in a day like that, you know, I have trouble enjoying the simple things like socially going out or even going out to dinner with my wife or even having a hangout where we're just watching a movie. I feel like I didn't I didn't do it. For I didn't so it's a struggle, you know, maintaining that balance of you know, what can I be doing versus like maybe you can relax a little bit and certainly not talking about, you know, complacency or just contentment but you know allowing yourself to be present myself. I should say and enjoy those times even if I don't feel like I've earned it. I think that's that's something that a lot of high Achievers that are listening right now, which most of our listeners are if not all feel that. That same that same type of should I be doing more right? And like I said making the move out here was yes for my career, but as much of a lifestyle changes anything and my wife ended up moving here to she wasn't my wife at the time but like thank God that happened because we love our life here and we were so happy here. And even if I'm struggling in my career or an audition doesn't go well or you know, whatever. It may be. I love my life here and those moments are The moments that should keep you going and not like moments like, you know with friends or significant other whoever, you know, that's just as much of a part of me being here loving what I'm doing and where I'm living and how I'm living as anything so, you know to be careful not to make that passion or that dream, you know for me is acting or writing everything I had an analogy wants to know is talking about just trying to balance everything in life from career to relationships. To finances to spirituality and it said, you know pretend you're juggling you may have heard this before and all of your balls that you're struggling or rubber, but there's some certain glass ones. If you drop those they could shatter and the career the acting of it you drop that you don't get your part. Guess what that bounces back up. It's a rubber ball, but you drop the relationship ball that could shatter you drop the ball where maybe you're not, you know connected with your kids that could shatter now. You can put those back together but it takes time effort and sometimes they can't be put back together. And I think that's a constant reminder that I have for myself because the reality is and the grand scheme of things when you pull yourself out of all of the you know in the weeds and how caught up you can get in the process most of those things. If not, all of them can bounce back just make sure you take care of the ones that could shatter completely and for what it's worth. My parents have visited a number of times and they're so supportive now. And they understand the way things go now and the amount of I mean, they love my wife too which helps she's the best and the way they see us living our lives and the happiness that we have, you know compared to how I felt earlier and it's just undeniable. So, you know that apprehension at first that they felt towards my move or that I felt telling them about it is men's over time with either success or with just the level of happiness that in energy that you live your life with the life out here is it Is what I've hoped it would be and they are happy because they see that too. So that is amazing. Thanks so much for sharing that let's go ahead and wrap things up here today what I want to make sure that our audience can do is find you you're continuing to produce work. That's out there. I know you got it on YouTube and Instagram. So where is the best place for our audience to find your work that you continue to create? Yeah. It's just my first and last name everywhere pretty much. So on Instagram and Twitter at Josie umbrella same on IMDb you Can see you know credits and clips Joe Shamballa.com is where I have stuff as well. And yeah Hey Joe. Thanks so much for joining us here today. This is an inspiration to me to so many people out there. I just to look at the blueprint that you've laid out in the path that you have taken to get to where you are. Today is incredible you're an inspiration to so many. So thank you Joe for sharing your story with us and being with us here today. Thanks Ryan. I'll say this just pay attention to your intuition. And there's some great stuff that can happen. I saw a tweet from Jeremy Piven like maybe four years or three years ago when I was in a little bit of a lull and it just said embrace the journey and that hit me so hard. I just needed to see that at that time. So just kind of keep your, you know, keep your eyes open for a little things like that and the other day I did cryotherapy with Jeremy Piven. I was in the same no way cryotherapy tank and like past him and we had a little conversation and I'm just Like thank you for that. I didn't say this but in my head I'm like thank you for that tweet. You sent out a couple of years ago that was super helpful to me more than you can ever know it, you know little things like that look for those synchronicities. And yeah, that's all it is. Go get it. You heard it the joy is in the journey. Gotta go get it. Let's go. Hey, thanks so much. I appreciate it. How about that from Joe Shambala? Hey, I am inspired. I hope you're inspired as well. You look at somebody like Joe who is living his passion right now. Wasn't easy you heard what he went through there was fear there was doubt there was uncertainty Judgment at times but he persevered through that and he is right where he wants to be. It's not easy. You heard some of the struggles that he goes through to this day. But you also sense the joy in his voice how much he loves his life and what he is doing who he is being. Hey, if you listen to this and you thought this has helped me so much or you have somebody in mind that you think it'll help please share it with them. M share it on your social media tag me in it at Ryan Borowski and I'll repost it and if you're listening on iTunes, it would mean so much if you could leave us a five star review write a comment about how this interview has helped you. I would love to hear it and that'll also help our podcasts grow so we can continue to inspire and encourage even more people to live a life like Joe a life that is passionate and on purpose rise up.
It's our first interview ever!!! Somebody somewhere is depending on you to do what you were called to do and it’s important you do it even if it doesn’t feel like it’s possible. Joe Chambrello is an actor and writer who is a recurring co-star on the renowned soap opera Days of Our Lives, a lead in an independent film for Amazon titled, “The Fast and the Fierce,” he guest-starred on a comedy pilot for Netflix alongside Frankie Muniz playing, “Doctor Scott” and co-starred on Conan O’Brien’s show doing sketches with Deon Cole. What’s more impressive than all of his accolades is his journey to Hollywood. In this interview Joe shares how he discovered his passion despite not growing up around the arts. He discusses the struggles he had sharing that passion with others and his fear and doubts he had when he made the move from his corporate sales job to Hollywood. Not only is Joe’s story inspiring, but he also reveals actionable steps that you can implement to accomplish exactly what you want in life right now. Please SHARE, REVIEW, and REPOST to spread the word about making your PASSION your work! 