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I am your glorious hosts. Are we gonna Bradford joined by some pretty amazing folks? We have Olivia detail. And of course the wonderful Matt Mauro. Hello. I'm late. I like whenever you said Olivia deep. Apparently, I've got mixed up. Yeah. I'm at more. He's not I'm Olivia. I guess you already need to chill. I got one apparently in the chat. Wow, so and you get up intro to you. Welcome our co-host of the show, you know the deal and if it's your first time this side of the table belongs to you your co-hosting the show with us, whether it's live or you're watching it post-recording. You can leave a comment below of course, hashtag everything a be TV Arrow on social media. And if you're in the chat now join us for hashtag who I love to I hate who is the actor that you love to hate because her so dang good at their job starting with you guys. I will start. Oh, she's ready. He's ready since the first the start of the episode Laurel. Oh, that's okay. We're going to get into that. Well, okay. No, but she she made her way around to warming up to me, but at the beginning I was like, okay, I get it. I get it that you're Earth-like died would be nicer to people so insensitive. Okay. Okay, Matt Maher. JJ perfect. He's so handsome. He's so handsome but he's so bad in your bad your brother, but wait, but then he's a bad boy. Never mind. I love him. Well who I love to hate was Lyle. I know. Not to steal your thunder, but we might be talking a little bit more about Lila in our AfterBuzz new segment. So people should stay tuned because it's gonna get rich so juicy various don't we are like on crack tonight? I currently yeah, I really care leave is not here now. So we're all just chili. Yeah goofy. Okay, so well up to hate James chunghae. I says I love to hate is Earth to dying agreed that once that's yeah archers Ali has To hi Steven. It is Laurel. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Bob Master just says I hate the future crap. Through that Kevin a grassy and Ryan says Lila greed which oh and someone says Michael Blake says the monitor. Oh good one. I just want one. Sorry. Okay, and there's some laurels in there to from yeah. All right. Well overall thoughts of this episode are we loving the fact that each and every episode is dedicated to each season love it. I'm so glad you brought that in O wise leader really wouldn't know that I'd love that now. I loved it. I overall I mean that's just a comic nerd. I'm like, I kind of feel like I'm getting a hug from the universe again like that. This show is returning to form and it's much like the show that we fell in love with and I'm here for Yes, I loved I loved every moment of this episode. There's so many like good fight scenes that we'll talk about and my favorite was seeing flashbacks of Felicity the actual Felicity such a t it was so romantic. Well, she's dead. What? Oh, just no. No, I'm kidding great timing. I know. Hey give it a ride in the booth everybody. Thank you anyway. I like I'm I like that I'm excited about this series because when we started up last season, I think a lot of us really cool Oliver's in jail. Oh he still in jail. Tatsu she's one of my favorite. I love her too. I've Loved they that was a great reminder of just I forgot how this with Tatsu but then her husband and her son and him dying like that was a really gut-wrenching season and a really great season. So it's nice to be reminded. Yeah, exactly. I had forgotten about that whole scene and then when she brought it up tonight and I was like, oh man. Yeah, that was so got Ritchie what happened to her and I just love her face. It's just so like cute huh? Like she's just such a beautiful woman. It's a beautiful Woman she's like also such a badass. So it just makes me feel good that there's like beautiful badass women out there. You know, I'm sitting next to cure them and really quickly Bob Master. It's his first time in the chat. Whoa. Oh and Ivan Soto's hear your husband Ivan. Hi honey. He's waiting for a ring Boo Boo Boo. Anyways a rock and get it together now. Back to tattoo. I actually was hoping that they chose a flashback of her husband Sal because I was like, oh my God, he's so hot. He was but anyway, I'd like the fact that she brought she made all of her question the monitor because he was so blindly last episode just falling whatever he did because out of this hope and she even said it like same ol Oliver that like let my son die. I forgot about that. Oh, yeah. Yeah that mean that was some deep stuff and I think that what it's reminding Ian us is that Oliver has had a lot of loss. And so this is literally I think well, I was cool what she I mean we knew this but she reminded us that literally all of our has the potential of what he saw on Earth to to happen to his own Earth and all of his family and what he basically has been fighting for for the last eight seasons. He stands to lose so really it was for me like a very much like dang that got deep moment. So I appreciated. The I just anyway, I made me make put me in my feelings. Yeah, and back to tatsu's Brandon 52 says she never really got to live up to her character. I love that. She got a second chance. So yeah, it's got could see was officially furloughs in the cam. Yeah. She's her comment but his Katana. So anyway, which is explore that character on our own and arrow Katana also has a lot of stuff I should have done that for. Oh, well that Katana has a lot of stuff in Batman, which is really great. So check her out. Yeah. Katana by the way is also the name of a kick a martial arts cake. Hi-yah guys. I don't know if y'all haven't seen Ali Khan has fight real on her Twitter. So you should pause that. It's legit Arrow realness fighting so somebody tell the casting director. It's like shot like an arrow episode 2. It's like there's some whoever the camera guy is was excellent. He was like going on and then we diggle shows up. It's awesome. Oh, yeah. The shirt off. Yeah, great. Great grandma. Sure. Let's talk about that. He showed up with a mission with Oliver. We got all of our we got Tatsu we got diggle. I was a little afraid to go wouldn't be there because of everything the monitor was saying, but anyways, great to see if you really paid attention. They fought in three at the beginning, right? So it was taught to diggle and Oliver and in season 2, they were a team of three. Yeah Lissa T. But this is me. Maybe I'm just reaching for comment. Ally's now that I huh, but either way it was nice to see the small team. There's not too much going on and yeah, it's just I just I love that dig always always or for the first two episodes has just been his like his anchor, you know, he's just always there. He's been his his best friend since the beginning and he still there into the last season. So I just warmed my heart. I again, it's just I was saying that somebody asked me outside of the AfterBuzz laws of Blobby father host. They said how do you like arrow? And I said, it's a return to form. That's what Like it's such a great description for this show and they've really cut the fat and thank goodness. And so like, you know, I don't because I you know, I don't think we're going to get like a ton. Honestly this shows much better without Renee without diet is without Curtis. Like it really is a much better show without all of those extra people. It just became too many people. Yeah, black magic says digs fight choreo improved a lot and I noticed that like he was the in Al and I don't know again if that's like a kickback to maybe they got a better budget season 2 or they were just more well equipped and trained to fight because in their break they train more but it was definitely so much more elevated which again, we'll talk about the fight scenes but noted definitely notice. Yeah just feels like everything is elevated actually this season because they probably got the same amount of budget are usually close to do. Yeah 10 episodes instead of 23. It's just I hate it. It's such as somebody who works and as we all do is we work in the industry. Like, you know, these shows going to 10 episodes It's kind of killing it especially for Riders and but also for actors in that, you know, if you had 23 you're working basically all year with like two months off and now you're working three months and that's it. So it's not necessarily great for the business, but it's really does make a better better tighter show. That's just kind of cut the fat and I think we're getting that right. Let's talk about the mission that they went on to. Because we're trying about each individual character how much we love them so much but they did have this mission to get the alpha omega serum, which is what unleash powerful Mega she Rome bomb boy. Bum bum bum. That was a base. Nothing baby, you know, sometimes I'm manly Ivan knows knows what's up. So back to the back to the mission? Yeah, dr. Wong who created this thing? Because China White which hey girl. She came back longer hair. Yeah. Grace is here, and she's again. Villain good. Good good. Yeah, yes, so she's back. We're trying to get and figure out why dr. Wong is like the main prize if you will which doesn't mean I mean, maybe you guys figured out but I'm feeling really Grown Apart. Okay, did you know I didn't really get to know this because she was out for the serum and it was like I'll trade you the doctor for this year, but you've the doctor that can create it. So yeah don't need to do the trade unless you're on a time line also. Why would they attack and like when Oliver was like, okay go why would they attack them when she still had the the the Detonator in our hand like if they attacked her couldn't she have just gone beam boom like yeah it make any sense to me except should they just like ran like I kind of wish they would have shown like an arrow or something like hitting her hand and knocking The Detonator out of her hand. Yes. I think that would have made a little bit more sense. But yeah, I didn't quite grasp why they mean maybe they'll tell us This in the next few episodes but like why they want him and what he's going to get they should be. Yeah only because each episode is just true individualize. It's like we got our mission next, please. Yeah. Yeah. They're very kind of putting a bow on each one. Yeah. I don't really know why. Well, we do we are going to find out it because at the end Lila and the monitor she's all like I've got dr. Wong right? So I think this is Happy holler at your girl. So I think that's going to be the continuity of we just don't know what dr. Wong's doing it, but that's what the monitor wanted and we definitely have established. Some people are like, I don't know who but some people I mean, you know, there's a couple saying I read in chat like you think this season is all going to be about in physics. Isis yes, this is if you didn't get that the first one this is the second one settle in because that's what this is going to be all be about. Yeah, right. Well Lila and Laurel actually come to save the day. But obviously we find out that y was not on the right team. Maybe I know two things either. She's a vile betrayer. Or that was the monitors back-up plan because he already knew that Oliver had some emotional issues going into that, but I think that's great Bradford pat on the back. No, I agree with you 100 percent. I think that I don't think while it necessarily is going to do anything evil. I think she's just, you know, the the like more stable one between her and all the one step ahead of law man. That's all and that's no joke these nice. Sorry. I've had like a lot of my okay. So we're talking about we had Caffeine Ivan said this is interesting what my husband just said Lila being the harbinger of comics was out of nowhere. So I wanted that it's I think a good point that we haven't seen Lila in a while and she is kind of coming. I mean we saw her. Yeah, not at all hardly last season guy. So and when we did we hate it, the chemistry was also she's back. It did seem a little bit like, I mean, I enjoyed it though when she was like hey, honey. So they introduce you to the good way, but I was a little oh, okay. This is happening. I for the first time in my life within the first one say what 30 seconds that she was on screen liked her. Yeah, you guys know what how I you know, how I feel about her but she came on and she was just hardcore badass Laurel had a mission. She stepped in and was like what you're going to need a hand. Well, I don't crack. Whoa. Okay. Yeah, like when the kid, yeah, forgive me. I forgot his name, but the tech kid. It was taking his time this that and the third or he's lying. That's what it was. She said he's lying and she smashed something. I was like, well, you know, I love you. I actually liked her much more. It's when she's with diggle. We're we're kind of like but yeah Nichols now she when she like you said, but you honey, he like winked. I was like, oh, it's very common something. I don't yeah. I mean, of course, they didn't really speak to each other so we can meet judge now, but I feel like some there's a little something there. Maybe maybe she can have her Redemption. I'm not I'm not mad at it. I'm not mad at it. Maybe we're going to find out the reason they had zero chemistry the entire world of this maybe dough is because Lila deep down inside has been a bad guy and that's where the mrs. Well maybe I think we're going to get more Lila to because hello, we're talking about their children like we're talking about JJ. So like it's going to make sense. I think more in the flash-forwards. Okay, that made a Lee konitz sad either way. I just I really want to highlight the fact that the both actresses both her and Laurel were so great together. They had both had emotional scenes in the fact that they were talking about survivor's guilt. So yeah deep down whatever Lila's mission is at the end of the day. I think she was really genuine and the things that she was saying to Laurel and I think that both of them just Stellar ack. I actually wrote and I just put an all caps I got I I won't say the f word but I did say iaf and love Katie Cassidy. She's just so great and she's such a good actor and she just really has talked about somebody who is I think almost I think probably more than anybody on this show has grown so much as an actor and grow you can tell that you know, I don't I don't I'd be interested to talk to her. Well for many reasons, but I feel like if we she would say, I don't know if they originally planned this character is our her character. Black Canary so much but she was just such a good actor in gave him so much the Riders. You see that a lot. The Riders will ride for someone so great. Sorry. I lost my breath it sound like I was going to cry right there like but I'm not Olivia any thoughts I had and I don't really necessarily agree. I feel like she's just not as good this time around. I'm not talking about Black Canary not dinner. I'm talking about Katie Cassidy as an actor. She's a good actress. I'll give her that. I like her as this black siren. No, she's not black kid. Nari. All right, so, I don't know. I just I felt like it. I feel like it didn't I fake came off a little fake to me tonight. Well, okay. I don't know Gloria says Katie was epic tonight. So Ivan soda seeing little breakdown about the destruction of Earth with of her Earth was heartbreaking. Yeah. Yep. It was even worse when she took I call it the portalremote but it has a very fancy name to it clicker the clicker the garage clicker. Yeah. But when she kept on trying to push it and she's wise not working. It's not working and then she turned around and flip mode on the guy and he's like, I can't create a whole universe. Yeah, and I thought that was such a fantastic moment. Well, I think what they're doing and we're going to see this. I think there's this I think there's going to be some fun week and nods to the fans of like stuff in the past, but I think also there's going to be look we've got to if Infinite Crisis is coming to there's going to be lost because we need to feel it and I think that she's She's probably like the first man casually but get ready y'all. I think there's just going to be more on the way. I'm really surprised that Tatsu made it when she got stabbed in this I thought you were going to die. That's gonna be one of our losses have been then she survived. I was like interesting. I thought China White was going to behead her. Yeah, I thought so too and I would have been shocked but also a little gagged. Yeah, they done that because I would have been like whoa. Yeah, but also like I don't know. I feel like at this point in the season or and you know in the series that you need to Yeah in London, it's true. Oh, by the way, Grace Gracie and Ryan is right. It's called the universal clicker. 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I don't know people know that so we appreciate that and ultimately you guys we've got so with all of this to we've got Arrow, we've got flash we've got Supergirl guess what all these shows have after both shows. We are breaking down and getting you ready for Infinite Crisis and their special things coming. So it's going to be a fun time at AfterBuzz and thank you for making AfterBuzz the ESP n of T v-- talk. I just want to say one last compliment that's relevant and irrelevant. And that's the fact that I feel like the writing for this episode was really great. Yeah with a dialogue. Yes. It was an it wasn't that it was an issue before but I know last season and I think we all complain about the fact that we kept seeing reoccurrences. Yeah of it felt like some of the whoever was in charge wasn't paying attention to what happened to last season's because we were seeing repetition repetition repetition. But just everything went together so well in this episode the conversations were great had a lot of depth to them. So I just wanted to point that one well in to point out to add to that literally they rehash stuff. We'd already seen before in past Seasons this time. They're actually going back to things we've seen before but yet making it feel fresh. Yes that was hard to do. It's hard to do. Yeah, and it's they're doing such a good job so far. I'm really excited. Michael Blake really quickly says, I think Tatsu will be in crisis and that's Probably why they did it makes a good call good call great. Let's talk about the flash-forwards. No, not even a sound. Well, nothing nothing. I didn't hate it as much as episode. But again, I like it as a standalone. I like that. It's being a becoming a spin-off. I think it's going to be a great story to tell before we continue one of the ways we keep all these shows for you free is by our amazing sponsors and today Spotify. 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Now that we're going through season 1 season 2 Bubba Bubba, the flashbacks were such a huge part of season one and season two and establishing Oliver's Journey that I'm like, how are you not incorporating it into your Throwbacks in this season, so I was hoping we would see maybe Some of that and we're not and of course, I thought you finished. Go ahead. I was just going to say in those to me parallel the show so well when this show started it made sense when the flashback happened, you're like, ah, ha. Yes, that's why so and so's this way when the flash-forwards happened. I'm like, oh cut to another show dot dot dot. Oh, it's over cool back to my regularly scheduled program. Yeah. No, I was gonna say what I think stylistically they're trying to harken back because if you'll notice Like though the music and stuff. They used to you. They always use for the end of the way the camera angle and lighting effect for the flashbacks. They are now doing from the future to where Oliver like they're literally if you notice it's like when they cut to Oliver and diggle. It's like they were flashing back to Hong Kong literally, like what they did in season two, so it's almost like they're trying to tell us that the future is now present-day and I noticed that a little bit in one to it's almost like Oliver is becoming the flashbacks. But I don't like that but I will set but I 100% agree with you that there I think it's maybe going to be a slow build but I'm still enjoy the flash-forwards because I like the characters right and I want to see that show but it's a totally different show. They kind of tie things together a little bit at the end of last season. So I feel like I just hope they don't wait till like episode eight or nine to tie in these flash-forwards. Words to the Past like let's get this going like episode 4, I know so I it feels like two completely separate shows, but I know in my heart and I've seen photos of when they're going to be connecting and I feel like that is going to be such a grand time for like I think when we finally have the two mixed together it's going to be amazing. So I'm kind of holding out for that and hoping that that turns out okay, but right now I'm just like yeah, these are two separate shows like you said, it's like you're watching you. And then you watch another show and then it's like okay back to my show. Yeah, but I also agree with you that that you know that Oliver and diggle and everything. Those are the flashbacks right now and then you know, the present time is the flash-forwards, but maybe we had it's interesting. Renji. Renji nine. Oh nine 9 eight said sorry. No, you're doing the chat, but you're talking about they said I think the overlap at some point. Yeah, they will. That will well not overlap. But they well I saw some photos. That would be cool. Wait, hold on split if you see my thumbs up, it means it's okay to listen spoiler alert. Okay, don't listen. So there's this there's this photo company that goes to Vancouver and takes photos of the set and this week a bunch of photos came out that Of Oliver and Mia together and both in there like green arrow outfits and both like shooting arrows together. Are you done? I'm done. First of all, I gotta give you props for like maintaining your focus and that story because it's not was next. I just did what? Okay now no voguing and stuff those boilers are done. That's what I'm saying. Like, that's why if I have that to look forward to than yeah, give me all the flash-forwards and like I'll put them together later, but For right now, they're kind of late. Okay. All right, Ivan Soto says awesome. And Bob Master who's new to think says they gotta kill William. Oh, wow. All right, Bob Master welcome and welcome to right William is okay. He's not my favorite character. They've underutilized him and maybe that's why he's just nothing wrong with the actor per se or his ability just the character in general and like yeah, you're okay, but I'm not attached to you the way I'm attached to me. I've already developed a for lack of better words an emotional attachment to her because and maybe it's because she is so much got that Oliver fire in her that I'm like, yes strong fighter and William while he's supposed to be the Felicity. He doesn't have the same endearing quality yet, but I don't really I mean I like the actor but he seems a little like I need a little room where backbone from him. Yeah, but I want to See that's that's one criticisms of the show. I've just noticed as just as a queer man. Like I really feel like they kind of underutilized in a little bit kind of weaken. The gay characters at least from a male perspective. Like I would like to see the show so great about diversity as far as like racial diversity and there's a lot even more women are coming in. But I feel like they could when it comes to like LGBT stuff. I feel like they could add a little bit more diversity of strong queer characters. I wouldn't mind but I do love that he's so Similar to Felicity and it like it gives me like Felicity Vibes all the time and like, you know, just the way that he is and how smart he is and his little quirks that he does and even like tonight when you saw everyone come into the bunker where he was and he he like made this face of like lala and like that would be the face that Felicity would make every time she got in trouble but with Felicity just stand there and let him capture her. No, not at all. That's the difference. Yes sure. She would like have a code or she would start like if she wasn't she would fight back. Yeah, so that's what I need. Yeah. Sorry, that's okay. Stop it up. Will y'all wow, thank you dear giggle after them. No talk about what happened in the flash for okay, because we have the two brothers. We have JJ we have the not Slade Wilson. That is jjjj. Connor. Connor. Connor had a moment and we have the reference the Bronze Tiger. I mean we knew that but they said it out loud. Yeah, so it was nice to hear. Yeah, but yeah, I think it was just like laying down foundation for the two characters as far as like, well, this is why I'm a disgruntled son because that one time you let me take the blame. Yeah, and it seems so petty like that's why you hate the world. Yeah. I mean, I like that they were having a conversation and it was kind of cool to see the two of them just like hashing things out to Great actor. I thought yeah, but the acting was amazing and I liked hearing what they had to say about it. But also at the same time, it's the very Arrow story of like someone was mean to me when I was 12 and now I'm killing everyone and it's like that's so Arrow of you. Yeah, that's every Evil Genius. Totally though, we finish adding, you know that I'm not totally over it in that it is heartbreaking a little bit to watch that when you see when their father is diggle like such a I mean we talked about this last episode but somebody who's really the kind of the one person who hasn't changed who's like such a like he's just like a real you have loyal Soulful just like rock of this show usually the Rock and of this community of this. It's like band of community to see that it's his two boys that you know, probably he had that with his brother. So, you know that that probably that mattered so much to him. That's heartbreaking and I think you're right. I think the season where we had Giggles season with his brother is when we're going to see things come to a head between JJ and Connor and that's going to be heartbreak. That's when the flash-forwards are doing something well and that they have the gravity of what we know is happens in the Past but anyway, I'm Brandon in the chat says I wish baby Sarah would come back in the crisis. I mean, that would be good. Can you imagine if we got these my baby Mary Sarah Lance is my Black Canary wrong Sarah. Oh, that's a bit. Like, you know what maybe I mean that was the point of Infinite Crisis in the comics is that it kind of fixed a lot of continuities and made everything and combined it. Yeah, the final thing that I will say about this. Flash for is the tension between JJ and Mia great, but at the same time it does take me off a little bit which he's a villain so he's obviously doing his job. Well, but I'm like what a turd. He's so mean to her. I love apple mean it's his job handsome. It can be made to me. Oh, yes, not on the show. Brothers that's weird. But in real life offset, they're totally dating. Okay. I just wanted to make it that just when I already know that it looks in my head. Okay, so we have to talk about the fights because the fight scenes were all great, but did anybody else we noticed but you and the chat. Did you notice how well-lit they were? Yes, because every single fight now mind you when we watch it. Our TV is angled funny. So we're like stand in our chairs trying to like see stuff but in general it's so dim you Tell who's who everyone's in dark clothing. They have a hood on your like I think is that Oliver? Yeah. Whoo. No, that's it. Yeah, where is this? Everything had this like cast of yellow warm sunny glow even when bad stuff was happening. So did you guys have a favorite fight scene? Yes. Okay. I'll start my favorite fight scene I think is when Tatsu crashed through the window like she couldn't walk through the door like a normal person and then she and then the double sword stab you guys. Yeah. That was pretty My favorite that's pretty cool. Yeah, my favorite Tatsu again was honestly the last fight with Blac Chyna because just the choreography was really great there. And also what I loved it's just the shots were beautiful. They were doing the I don't know stepped up a drone or just they were mixing it with the long shots with the close-ups. We haven't really gotten that a lot from Arrow and it actually wasn't even taught to and it was that whole last sequence like when Oliver jumps off. Off the kind of ledge and he's like in slow motion like shooting it was just they put a lot of money into these fight scenes and it shows and it's totally it makes it I just it makes me believe how what a superhero is like we forget that Oliver is like a real person but he's a super hero. Yeah. What about you? I think you said that because it is such a great point when you do watch a lot of these superhero shows. I'm not like are quoting if I really are quoting. I just did you like Britney? Brittany I love Brittany. So anyhow when you want we want what I don't know Brittany, but anyway when you watch these superhero shows, did I miss something? No. No, I just thought it's funny. You're like, I'm not Britney. Yeah, so yeah, I'm just giggly keep going. Oh, no, I'm sorry. OK Didi. You said Brittany. I'm gonna get excited about Britney Spears. Oh, yes. Yes. Oh baby, baby think now I'm totally off. Do you want me to while you regain your thoughts? You got it? Okay. Continue. No, I don't got well. Anyway, I like the scene. I like the fighting scene in the market the Chinese market. Yeah, that's all there were some really cool stunts Oliver was swinging from up. There's like a big pole. He dropped down Swan dude some stuff. But the entire time there were a lot of moves. I don't know the technical names but it's a move where you run up on somebody and you grab their neck with your legs and you just saw. Enroll fast and they go flying down the coolest. It's a lot of fun to do that. I've done it before and it's really fun. But I was never the one that fell on the ground like the bad guy. I was the one that got to swing on someone's neck. So I didn't touch the ground. I was in the are flipping and then he landed flat on his back and was like gosh that must hurt. Okay, let's do this. Again. That's fine. Anyway sounds fun. It was a lot of should go off of locate on location and you should teach me and Olivia might think Archers Ali the fight scenes hashtag. So Aro grassy and Ryan says yes, I could see everything finally black magic the choreo the lighting the locations everything. So yes, everyone's so on board with these fights. Oh and the fact that because Tatsu fights with swords and we don't typically get to see that it was actually a little bit more edgy in that. Yeah, there's actual like blood and stuff before it's just kicks. I know what my point is my point was That stopped it before I forget my boy. Okay, my point shit. Aha. I can do it. I know it is. Hold on when you watch all the other superhero shows you have the flashy of Supergirl girl and they all have literal superpowers ours is all these metahuman things going on. But with arrow, it is humans against humans with the exception of Damian darhk-- and all that other stuff. But for the most part Oliver is just an ordinary guy. Guy who's got a lot of issues and a huge journey and he's the underdog and we get to travel with him, but he could do all these incredible things and as is Stephen Amell, he's gotten his body to a certain shape. He's trained so much so he can do a lot of these things and so I just have such a huge appreciation for the show because of that. She got it got it out and someone in the in the chat said the arrow the salmon ladder finally paid off for him. So but can I stream salmon ladder? Seriously shirt off? Preferably. I love that our live chat just keeps putting hi. EXO are oh I know. Yes. It's a thing also really quickly Max a rue Des is flashing Arrow are now playing at the same time and I chose to watch this since I never get to see it live. That is so sweet. Thank you so much. We appreciate all of you. Yep. We're here because of you because of you because of you. I was on AfterBuzz giving a highlight of mirror because Yes. Yeah. Anyway, do you like Kelly Clarkson like me Ron? I get it. Now. Let's not stray too far from the show format. Well, that's all I got for fight scenes and great. Yeah nanny. So why don't we get into archers a lie? Yeah. Let's get into some archers Ali everybody. Oh, they're here. Okay, so we are showing for Archers alley. This is a tweet from a Marc Guggenheim who for he's a big big big in the television world. But also it's a huge comic in DC Comics. And so it's just this is It's the from this comic is not out yet, but this will go into some news but they're actually making a comic of Green Arrow and the canaries and as you can see it's a really cool visual comic and Says he they kind of said this is a no to the final season of Arrow that starts today. So I thought it would be appropriate to share this with everybody and future so he obviously has one foot in Arrow the show and one foot in comics as well. So that is since Caroline was in here. That was my contribution to we always talk about our comics in the past. But if you're a comic book fan or if you're wanting to get into comic books, this is a great time to get into it because DC is actually kind of doing a Ending of the comics right now, but a lot of it is going to be coinciding with the Infinite Crisis that's going to be happening on the CW. So, it's a great time to go to your local comic book shop and just nerd out and have some fun. Y'all. That's archers Ali Ryan. There we go. Now it's time for news and after Moses. Okay. So the first Ron if you could bring up the first picture because I forget what's first honestly, I think it is what I think it is is what I was just talking about. I believe we're talking about the canary to get that green arrow and the canaries as we mentioned last week is a spin-off and it is currently there are already started. Shoot the pilot of this. Yeah, if you go to I didn't play it better. If you go to Catherine McNamara's Instagram, which is Kat KAIT underscore McNamara MCN am ARA, but if you go to Camp McNamara's Instagram, she did a video that you posted on October 21st, and basically she's saying it it's really exciting. I don't know what's in store. But whatever it is, it's going to be pretty badass so I cannot wait. I cannot wait to share it with you. And here we go. And so apparently what this is. I was reading this the pilot which takes place in a future version of Star City will make an episode on arrows eighth and final season. So I think about it Mike that they've actually will be one of the episodes eventually I would look at these about that. So but that's what it sounded like in this report according to syfy.com. Let's that's awesome Juliana also posted that same day a picture of video of her dancing. And being like oh, we're starting to shoot today. So and the same time that Catherine posted it. Yeah, it's pretty cool. Yeah. All right everybody and so okay. Next bit of AfterBuzz news is we have um, we're going to talk about a great interview with none other than diggle David grandmommy big Randy. So this is a really long interview, so we're not going to talk about all of it, but it's a great interview. It's on collider.com. So the title is Arrow David Ramsey on finally addressing the Green Lantern of It all and the final season. So he's talking about Green Lantern which of course made me just a fariq out and nerd out but also what he talks about and I said it earlier but I kind of said it because I saw them this too so I cheat it but he talks about how Lila becomes basically the Amanda Waller of the season. So which to me let it's hopefully that she's going to be good, but he said obviously because she's going to be what's going to be so much about our relationship and our children with Jay. Jane Connor that this he was excited that this relationship kind of our this season kind of digs back into the relationship that he and Lolly wants that so we're going to get more Lila but I don't want to spoil it for people but he does talk about there could be some green arrow hints to of this season of John diggle so Rita and yeah, I agree man to what did I say Greenery now, sorry same show and go to collider.com for that and then we have one more bit of news because I know Oh last week I said if your lotion that we're sending a picture of Katie Cassidy as Black Canary black siren. I kind of said I threw it out there really just to have said Olivia that I hope they ended up getting back together which made her angry like a hungry fat baby. So hey hungry fat babies are hungry y'all they're angry. But anyway, there's an article in Digital Spy.com. And actually I don't think I'm going to get my wish because duh. duh, because in this Stephen Amell actually quoted he said it's this is we from Entertainment Weekly says, it's really great that they're beside one another they're working with one another there's multiple times when Oliver looks at her and says, I didn't expect to be on this Mission with you, but I'm glad you're here if Oliver doesn't believe in people's capacity change, then he'd be a super big hypocrite because look of the type of person he was in Russian Russia for the sake of argument, which is also what we touch on into season and the person he is now so Getting more of a friend Vibe, but maybe a BFF five. So I was wrong and that is your afterwards news and gossip. Whoo, which means it is how your time in the chat to stop putting your predictions. Oh, yeah. Now we're going to start ours predictions. Let us know what your predictions are. Well, we know that they're going to be going to Nanda parbat. Yes, leave us acid. We y'all we froak I got so excited I hit myself in the head. Own I will you two going up and down screaming you were just like what cause she has to run this ship. So she was just like God typing. So I'm excited. Yeah, whoo-wee froak. We broke totally totally proud. So, okay. So you want predictions for next week. I mean what D is back not be is back. That's all I think the predict I do worry a little bit if you mention her that's I Dick that, there could be a chance of like Thea dying again. Like what's into the season and their one that was part of her thing as she died. So I think it could happen what it my prediction is that Thea is back and she Saves the World and she stays until crisis and then they make a show only about the forever. Okay. I predict that we are your two faces. It is lighter. Go ahead. Hide, it didn't say that working. Okay, so I predict that we're going to see the Lazarus pits just because we're going to see Malcolm Merlyn as the way that we like him. Not as a scare guy. That's like oh, that'd be cool. Evil Malcolm Merlyn. Yeah, so we're going to get a little bit of him. Maybe he'll come out and some heels at the end of the show. That'll be great. And then my final prediction is that we are actually going to see Mia in the crossover and she's going to fight alongside Oliver. Wow, so that's where we're going. It's on occasions. Actions Charmed original. Hey prediction, Laurel 2.0 will die during crisis and the monitor will resurrect our Laurel. Oh, that would be great. She'll be the Laurel in the Green Arrow and the canaries spinoff. Oh, okay, Ivan Soto Oliver and Laurel will smoosh. Huh? Smoosh smoosh. Smoosh. That's a that's is that basically get together and I don't agree with you at all. Okay, James Chung says we will get A major death soon episode for flash-forward. I probably I feel like that's going to happen. Yeah you right Bob Master. This is a flash prediction. Well, if this ain't the flash show, sorry, boo-boo. It's in the flash. Yeah. I don't know something about Barry Oh Billie Jean girl. I predict that Thea guys. Hi Billie Jean girl. I miss you. I predict that Thea dies and that's why Roy was alone on the island. That's gonna be so good. And so not fun. No, she lives forever and has her own show you guys, okay, and then star Drew I predict. I got start Drew's trolling me in the chat right now knows when he goes fan. And she just said I predict Olivia the Cowboys will live again whoo after another one because the towards the Eagles. Sorry. All I got was I predict so I'd like sports. I don't get it. I don't get it either. I think not so Arrow hashtag not so are you anyway? Yeah awesome. Oh, wait one more glove is this is for Matt Oliver and diggle make out. Thank you. That's a best prediction ever. So those are predictions also Ivan says you can't kill Thea I agree with you for once. I don't want to I don't want to I'm you can never she has her own show. Well, I just want to predict that you guys are the best fans ever and we are so lucky to have you joining us every single week. So thank you so much from us to you. We're happy to have this conversation. Be sure to continue it on social media. I'm at yours. Truly. Alie kondeh on Instagram underscore in between each word. You're surely gonna I'm on Twitter. So talk to me on Instagram. I'm Olivia D were totally ioved portfolio on both Twitter and Instagram find me a both also off. I'm in the comments of the YouTube. So I'll be I'll find you there. So find you. I'm at Mario and you can find me all on Instagram and Twitter at V. Matt Maher two T's two r's and until episode 3. We will see you, right? Our founder Keven undergaro and me Maria Menounos would like to thank you for tuning in to AfterBuzz TV. 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Team Arrow is heading to Hong Kong, in the wake of Earth Two's destruction. But will Black Siren get on board to help Oliver and Diggle or is she just taking revenge to get home? Also this episode has some of the best fight scenes we've seen on Arrow! Join Alikona Bradford, Matt Marr & Olivia DeBertoli as the break down this FINALE season of Arrow! ABOUT ARROW: Arrow is an American television series developed by writer/producers Greg Berlanti, Marc Guggenheim, and Andrew Kreisberg. It is based on the DC Comics character Green Arrow, a costumed crime-fighter who was created by Mort Weisinger and George Papp. It premiered in North America on The CW on October 10, 2012, with international broadcasting taking place in late 2012. The series follows billionaire playboy Oliver Queen, portrayed by Stephen Amell, who, after five years of being stranded on a hostile island, returns home to fight crime and corruption as a secret vigilante whose weapon of choice is a bow and arrow. Unlike in the comic books, Oliver does not go by the alias "Green Arrow" in the television series. Arrow also features appearances by other DC Comics characters. 