Fantasy industry vets Joe Dolan and Tom Brawley are bringing it all season long on the fantasy free agents podcast unrestricted, unaffiliated unparalleled fantasy football analysis. Good day everyone. It is Thursday, August 15th. My name is Joe Dolan host of the fantasy free agents podcast and on the fantasy free agents Podcast. Thursday is always a special day because that means we get to welcome in Greg Cosell the senior producer of NFL films the on-air talent and brains behind the action when the ESPN NFL matchup show love watching the matchup show with Greg and of course now we have actual tape to break. Out with Greg and is Greg and I joked about last week on our final preseason podcast. We're going to be making sweeping judgments about the careers of all these players that Greg has evaluated thus far off of like seven throws. It's a painful time of year for Greg. I know that he's said that to me and I've said it myself, you know preseason you have to take it into account, but you can't overreact too much. So what Greg focused on in the week One of the preseason he told me was quarterbacks. So I'm going to ask him about some of the more interesting quarterbacks in the league. I don't need to ask him about Tom Brady. I don't need to ask him about Aaron Rodgers. Some of these guys didn't even play. Some of them did some of them didn't but I'm really interested in asking about some guys whose jobs might be in Jeopardy. Obviously the rookie quarterbacks and how they perform some of the second year guys. Is there anything we can take away from the preseason and apply that going forward something to Keep an eye on once again. Nothing. We say in this podcast is either going to Doom a quarter back to the bench or is going to guarantee that he's going to end up in Canton. That's not the way this works. 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So go download the anchor app or go to Anchor dot f m-- to get started today and thanks for listening to the fantasy free agents podcast unrestricted, unaffiliated unparalleled analysis for your fantasy football and bedding needs. Gregor we talked all fair a little bit. We talked last week about how we're going to be putting guys in the Hall of Fame based on what we saw on on preseason week one tape. I'm actually going out to Canton on actually tomorrow. I'm going out to can tomorrow night for an event and I'm already excited to see Daniel Jones's bust in the internet Hall of Fame. Yeah. No, he actually look we you know how I feel about the preseason particularly weak one and it's everybody's excited about football as am I but you always have to be a little careful and and certainly when I evaluate a quarterback, I'm not necessarily interested in the number of completions. What is completion percentages, you know, I look for other things and teams don't necessarily do a lot of things but in the case of Daniel Jones, there are a couple of things that did stand out that I was looking for. First of all the Giants ran an RPO which he's very comfortable with because With a shotgun quarterback in college, so he's used to that that and and they ran an RPO. It might have been his second throw and he hit Golden Tate for 11 yards. It was it turned out to be an easy read based on the Jets alignment of their front but it was still an RPO the play that probably interested me the most was Lattimore For 31 yards because he was under Center and then I'm sure you saw the play it was his longest pass play. He was under Center and they went with a shot. Place, so it was play action under Center that requires footwork and snapping your head around quickly, which is a learned thing. It's a learned trait and he did it really really well and therefore he picked up Latimer on the krauser easily and made a very very good throw within the timing of the concept and you can see based on you said in college, although although David cutcliffe is known for his development of quarterbacks very much a shotgun quarterback. So that was clearly Don't think that the Giants and Jones were working on in particular and he executed that right and and it's a critical piece of their game because they have C'est quand Berkeley. So the play action pass game with the quarterback under Center will be an important part of the Giants offense now, obviously at this moment as we're speaking today Joe Eli Manning's the starting quarterback. We have no idea how the season will play out. But the point is take one Barclays in his second year. He's not going anywhere. So at some point Daniel Jones will be the star. Our and lining up under Center and running the play act the conventional play action pass game will be a meaningful part of their offense. And what goes along with that are learned traits, you know, the the footwork the snapping the head around the being able to pick up whatever they tell you. Your read is based on the given play versus a coverage. Those are all learned traits. So, you know Jones just in on that one throw he did it. Absolutely. Correct. Were you surprised were you Courage does it even matter to you on five throws at pal? In my opinion? I thought his ball placement was pristine. It was it was very very good. Yeah, I mean clearly the the touchdown was a really well-thrown ball. That was a high-low two men route concept versus what we call Red Zone cover to it was basically I mean, it was a fairly basic read. It's a high-low, you know in the in the high Red Zone everybody runs those kinds of things you're basically reading the corner if The corner sits low you're throwing the corner route, which is what Fowler ran if the coroner would have dropped deep you're going to throw it underneath to the lower receiver, but it was it was a well-thrown ball with really good ball placement. So yes, I thought that stood out Greg. I was listening to you before we get into the rest of the rookies and we will we'll get into Murray and Haskins and an interesting guy. I'm going to tease a little bit. We're not going to mention his name but a guy that you saw that you were very impressed with but let I know You dude Nashville radio and you're on the with the guys on the midday 180 and because you go on National radio regularly you watch the Titans a lot and you've seen Marcus Mariota a lot and I thought it was interesting and listening to your segment with them Greg when I was watching that game the Titans and the Eagles there was a I think it might have been a second or third down throw it was Mariota in a Zone trying to stick the ball into a window to Darius Jennings along the sideline. And Greg when I saw that throw live I was like that was it was an atrocious throw the ball didn't get there. It looked like it died. And I remember you saying with the guys on the midday 180 that it was also late and it was white like it's one throat. Okay, and in the preseason one throw isn't going to make or break a guy it's not going to do them to the bench nor is it is what they're going to put a guy in Canton like we were talking about with the but it's not the it's not the throw, you know, see that was that was a play that they wanted. Practice. Okay, and and it was basically a stretch run action with a seven step drop and Darius Jennings ran an out route. Okay, and they got exactly what they wanted from a coverage standpoint, you know, and again it's the kind of play that with theoretically works against any coverage because it's an out route. So whether it's man or Zone it becomes man because he's running outside the numbers so they went with with stretch run action. They blocked it up Mariota was Secure in the pocket. Pitch and catch it's a seven-step plant and throw because his footwork at the top of his drop was poor it became a 9-step hitch and throw and there's no such thing. So therefore he was late and a throw that should have been pitch and catch that theoretically quarterback should be able to make blindfolded. He's through it a beat late and in the NFL a beat is like 10 years as you know, Joe and therefore he took Jennings out of bounds instead of just Jenny for the caught that ball two yards from the With no problem. And again, I'm not now defining the rest of Marcus Mariota is career, but that was a very simple thing and it's just something that is a little concerning because it was it was pristine the way the play was set up and the fact that he was Totally Secure in the pocket and the question I have now and I want to relate what you've seen here to what you've seen previously in a guy's career. Is this becoming a problematic Trend with Marcus Mariota? As he enters his fifth year and he's looking for a new contract and the Titans are looking to see if they should give him a new contract. I mean, I would say it's a trend and therefore it is problematic. You know, that's that's the difference between making the plays that win and lose games is HE capable. I mean have there been times in his career where he's done it correctly. Of course there have we're not I'm not suggesting that he does this all the time, but he does it a little too much. And therefore you get a throw like that, which is seemingly insignificant on the first drive of first preseason game, but then what happens if he does it in the third or fourth quarter of an important game and mrs. A throw that is by NFL standards are routine throw, you know, that's the concern those little nuances and details of the position and up often being the difference between winning and losing games and then those things need to be cleaned up now whether they get cleaned up, Tup, I can't answer that but let's put it this way. They should be worked on and now and here's the thing. I saw people commenting. Well, what about Patrick Mahomes, you know, he's not perfect mechanically would you have said that Patrick Mahomes does need to clean think something's up mechanically, but here's the difference to me Greg Marcus Mariota is in a high-level thrower in the way past. No homes is and know there's less margin for error for Marcus Mariota. No, and then the thing that was interesting is Mahomes even spoke in the offseason and we talked I spoke to you guys. About this last year that obviously is a ridiculous thrower that's not the point but that he didn't need to clean some things up and he even spoke publicly about it. So, you know that that came probably from Andy Reid and the coaching staff and it's got down to Mahomes because Mahomes is a great kid who's actually very coachable. So he knows that he needs to clean things up, but it's funny you say that I just went through, you know, because I finished going through the last week's preseason stuff. So I've just been watching random stuff. So I just went through a bunch of Tyree kill. So obviously I was watching the homes Yes, and his footwork was actually pretty good. I mean he had some plays that were not great. But his footwork for the most part was pretty good. So, you know, but he knew that that it could be better and that's the kind of stuff you work on because at the end of the day when you're not pressured, okay, obviously, there's going to be plays in the NFL where your pressured and then things change but when you're not pressured you should be pristine and perfect every time every time not 80% of the time 90. Center the time a hundred percent of the time. It's like a baseball pitcher. Okay, if you're totally clean in the pocket your fundamentals your footwork. Your throwing motion should be perfect a hundred percent of the time and they're not with Marcus Mariota and Greg. I just want to compare him to Ryan tannenhill now Tannehill came in second. That means you're playing against more second-stringers. But the thing I want to point out here is the Eagles sat a large part of their starting defense in this game, right? It's not like Mariota was out there playing against the a 85 Bears. What did you see from Ryan Tannehill in comparison to Mariota. And what what kind of player is Tannehill in general in comparison to Mars? Yeah, right kind of Hills had his own set of issues. He's been a starter. He's got a track record like Marcus does and ten Hills had some issues throughout his career with what I call elimination in isolation, meaning eliminating. What's not there and isolating. What is there within the the structure of the play call? So he's he struggled with that. That's a huge issue. It's one reason. He hasn't been a consistent. And player, but he certainly had success in the league in this given game and that's all I'm speaking about Joe this given game this one preseason game. He did a better job than Mario to planning and setting in the pocket. He was quicker than Mariota with his set and his plant now he's not you know, he's a good athlete You could argue Mario to might have quicker feet overall. If you're just trying to judge their their footwork speed but Tannehill did a better job with his feet. There were a number of plays where he had to look one way. Away and come back another way and he did a nice job moving his feet with his eyes, which is always critical in to throw the ball accurately. So in this given game Tanana Hills lower body fundamental mechanics were better than Mario has again. It doesn't mean he's better or worse than Mariota. That's not the point. It's this given game griego. Let's go to Dak Prescott. Now, obviously the he threw like four passes in the preseason, right? We're not making any sweeping judgments, but could you tell based on what Dak Prescott? Did anything that Kellen Moore plans on doing differently this year from Scott Linehan? And did you see any improvements to Prescott's mechanics? He said that was a big Focus for him. I mean, you know, I think a big thing with Prescott and a knife. I remember correctly. There was one play that did show this and it was a positive. One thing with Prescott is you want to get him to get a better feel for progression reading because Prescott's one of those guys because he can move is guys who can move and and know that they have That in their in their toolbox oftentimes, they break down too early in the pocket. And then at times they'll make great improvisational plays and people get excited. But you have to be careful about that moving should be a parachute. It shouldn't be what you automatically do. So, I think the thing with Prescott is you want to get him to be more compact you want to get him to be more progression based in the pocket. And with that you talking about lower body mechanics again, and I think they're probably working on that. The other thing I would think they're going to work on and I don't know if this is in his DNA or if it's something you cannot truly work on each player is probably different. He's been in his career. Maybe he's been coached this way because they had Zeke Elliot and he was really the foundation of their offense. He's been a very cautious thrower Joe. He's not a guy that's that's been a turn it loose guy. And if you're going to make a subtle shift and try to make that Prescott more of a lead dog than a complementary piece in a run base. Stop fence. Then you have to start to be a little more aggressive turning it loose and and again, it's all situation based. But you know, I think that that's what they're probably trying to work with them on as well. You know, when you call plays I'll give you a great example. I'm sure you saw this on Twitter the whole thing with Jon kitna. Did you see the thing with John kid and I did when he told the story about Mike Martz I did and that and he's the quarterback coach. So the fact that he told that story tells me that they're probably working with him and just So people understand the story it was a case where they had to dig route called versus cover to a backside date great call against covered too. By the way, you know, that's the throw you want to make kidney through the check down and they got seven or eight yards and kidding. It was great. You know, it's thought it was hey, I just gained seven or eight yards good play. He comes over to the sideline and Marxist seething and he said, you know because the point was they had a did called which they practiced against cover to it's a great call. You got to throw the Dig that's just the way it is, you know, I think with DAC that's you got to get to that point where he's going to turn it loose and you said that I actually used to be a that was a problem with a Jared Goff coming in to his third year. Did he improve on that? And I think it's a little different with God because that system really presents a lot of defined throws. Well, you know and that goes into a whole discussion of their system which you know, we don't really have time to get into all the details now, but that's a system that really presents throws really nicely for the quarterback, you know Gough and there's nothing wrong with this. Not a negative term and people might think it is Gossip very programmed player, but that's okay. I mean, you know, it's the system presents the throws and they're there and it's okay to be program. That's what you want. Every quarterback is theoretically a system quarterback. That's not a negative term Greg. Let's get to a guy who isn't programmed. I would say that and maybe I mean that as a compliment as well Josh Allen with Buffalo, you said earlier in the preseason in our discussion that you went back and actually so incremental improvement from him throughout the season. Did you continue to see that in his first preseason action? He was very similar to what he was a year ago. Mr. Couple of throws with poor ball placement. There was one that was really egregious on Third and six it was a curl route that was wide open his A Jones and it was a routine throw and he and he threw it really poorly. You know, you can't miss those throws. It's one thing if you call, you know a deep ball and he has to throw at 35 40 yards down the field. And he just misses it. That's different. You still like him to hit those if it's there, but you know, that's a tougher throw when it's a curl route and 11 yards or 12 yards on Third and six and the receivers wide open. That's pitching catch. You got to make those throws. So we'll know guy. I mean, we'll see I mean again, he's got to improve in that area. Then you get caught up in the running element because he was arguably the best running quarterback in the league last year. Even better than Lamar Jackson, but you know again, maybe I'm old school. Maybe it's just because I'm old Joe, but I don't think you can hang your hat on Josh Allen being a runner and I was just about to ask that that was what I'm going to ask. Can you live with Alan missing a routine throw every now and again be no the high-level traits that he has No, you can't and you shouldn't even think that you can that has to be cleaned up. Okay, you know look I got taught the quarterback position by Bill Walsh. Okay, and the whole point is and I said this earlier in our conversation when everything is clean, you have to be perfect. That's the way it is. You know, Troy Aikman talks about this a lot when he does games, you know, when everything is clean as a quarterback, you got to make throws, you know. It's as simple as that, you know, you could theoretically do everything right as a quarterback. But if you can't throw it where you want to you have nothing. Okay, you have to make throws that are there because in the NFL you're not going to get a lot of wide open throws, you know, the great quarterback to make difficult throws. You cannot miss routine throws that or there so does Josh Alan have the ability to make spectacular plays both throwing and running? Yes, he does and he will make them by the way, but there won't be a Assistance e to their offense if he misses routine third down throws that are there. I know you watch the Giants and Jets game because we already talked about Daniel Jones, but what do you see on the other side from Sam Donald? You know Darnell was was was pretty good. I mean again, he's a pocket movement guy. He's a second reaction playmaking Dimension guy. He's got a really good. Knack for seeing the field and making off-balance throws with good ball placement. Yeah. I know the staff is struggling with with this in a good way, you know, not in a bad way because you know, Donald tends to have his feet not work. Well with the rest of his body, but then he has a knack for making accurate throws like So you you kind of have to figure out as a staff gee, do you really want to work on that which you know, normally you would or is that just Sam Donald? You know, so but Donald is I think he sees the field. Well, you know, I think he has a good sense of the game. He's a pretty accurate throw or throws a good deep ball and has that little sixth sense to him, you know, I obviously want to see him more of him as he starts his second season as a quarterback. It's a team that doesn't have it. Ton of weapons right now, but I think Adam gase is a really high level orchestrator and designer of offense and I think he'll work through that and present opportunities for Darnell. I think we won't get a full read of darn old until Chris Herndon comes back after his four-game suspension because gaze has always been really good with tight ends and Herndon fits that role so it might take you know, a quarter of the Season or more before we get a good read on what Donald can become but I to me, there's positive signs of bad dog. Even though at times, you know, I cringe you a little bit but that's the way he is in Miami Greg. We have a quarterback competition really one of the few in the NFL right now, but it's between Ryan Fitzpatrick and Josh Rosen Fitzpatrick's Fitzpatrick Greg. If you want to mention something that he did you can you can mention it. But we know what Ryan Fitzpatrick is Josh Rosen is the guy everybody's interested in how did he look as is their promise for his progression after? It was a nightmare working season. Well the problem with rose. And again is he played behind the second Team all line and there was way too much pressure, you know, look you can say this about a lot of quarterbacks obviously, but when Rosen is protected and can be comfortably rhythmic in his set in the pocket in his delivery then his he's very smooth. Okay. He's very system based. He'll turn it loose based on the route design versus the coverage. He's got a good feel for that. You know me. I don't know if this comparison Is 100% but in some ways you could say he's like a Jared Goff. I was in that lie about to say that but in that he needs the system. Yeah, he needs the system to present the defined reads and throws for him so he can be very rhythmic. You know, he's like God if he's a very smooth comfortable thrower of the football. You know, neither one is it is a bad athlete but they're not going to make their living making plays outside of structure. They're going to make their living dropping back. Back in a well schemed pass game and making throws that's what Josh Rosen is just as that's what Jared Goff has he made a throw this week. That's very symptomatic of what Rosen is. He had Clive Walford 21 yards on a seam route and then it was he threw it aggressively because hey the design of the play was there he dropped back. He was protected throw the football. That's what Josh Rosen is and you know what that comparison of course sounds ridiculous to people great because Jared Goff has started the Super Bowl, but yeah, Regardless where he will lie. Yeah after his rookie season, look where he was, right? So I mean again, you know, I don't know if it's a 100% comparison. I'm speaking more stylistically, you know, I think that's what Josh Rosen needs whether he gets that in Miami. I can't say hi to Marie Greg. He threw seven passes and I know people are freaking out about some of the throws he made but I mean Greg you saw what you wanted to see but there wasn't anything world-changing there and I probably and I would think we're probably not going to see that. At at least until deeper in the preseason, but almost certainly not till the regular season with quick. Kingsbury's plants we oh, I guess they said he's going to play more this week. I you know again they did Kingsbury didn't do anything out of the ordinary in this game. They he made a couple of speed out throws versus bailed cover three, those are spot throws timing throws so they called the screen and they happened to get the right coverage. So it was a nice gain. We saw his ability to escape pressure get outside the pocket. We know he can do that. That's not news. So they actually did play action boot which I guarantee they'll do with him because he can do that. So it wasn't there was nothing earth-shattering about calamari. Let's go to Duane Haskins Greg and I actually think we saw more from Dwayne Haskins than we saw from Kyle and Marie and Haskins is in the is in the quarterback competition in Washington. Supposedly. He is behind Case Keenum right now, but Haskins through a couple interceptions, but he also made some some big-time throws in Dedham and he's a violet he's a high-level thrower and that's not the question with him. Not at all. He can snap it off with velocity could be accurate. He made two high-level throws his first throw the game came off play action Boot and he threw the sale route really big time throw then he made a big time throw on a hole shot versus cover to holeshot being the outside void behind the corner and outside of the safety. So, you know, he's he I love his aggressive current lose mentality. I think he's that kind of Thrower, you know, the he threw two picks the first one it was a bad throw you could argue that the play wasn't executed as it was supposed to because it was basically a wheel route by the back with what was supposed to be a little natural rub element and the rub did not happen. So the throw was not as defined as I'm sure they'd hoped it would be but he still made in an accurate throw the second interception you'd have to ask him because it was an undefined seemed Pro so you have to ask him in the meeting when you're watching it what he saw why he made the throw because it looked bad and it was it was undefined throw was not really there. So you'd have to ask him why he threw it unfortunately Greg. I don't have him right after you on the podcast. No, no, he's not sitting here listening. But you know, but he also showed a little Mobility to be honest with you. I mean that's not going to be as game but in the NFL for a quarterback these days with the speed of defense's and the the emphasis on pressure schemes, you have to be able to move a little bit. And he did show some ability to escape pressure and get outside the pocket and that's a positive sign Greg given what you saw from Haskins on his college tape. I thought when things got a little muddied in the pocket, he really broke down when he was at Ohio State. Would you be hesitant to start him at the beginning of the season if Trent Williams isn't there? I think you know you have to get through the preseason. I'm not copping out. Yo, but I don't think I can answer that. Now you have to get more reps and practice more reps and games than it comes down to how you design your game plan because it's theoretically if you design your game plan in your offense works, you know, you're protecting him to some degree when I say protect them. I don't mean you're just handing the ball off. I mean the nature of your past game, you know, if ideally things are working and you're not in too many third and long situations you can protect them with Liquor drops you can protect them with plaques and boot you can do a lot of things that minimize the loss of a high-quality left tackle. So we need to get through the rest of the preseason to really answer that great. One of the rookie quarterbacks. You said who said arguably could have been the most impressive here in week 1 of the preseason fourth-round pick at Auburn Jared Stidham to the New England Patriots. Everybody's already preparing their first-round pick offers Greg for Jared Stidham like they did with Jimmy Garoppolo, but he was a polarizing Act and I think the Auburn offense in general is polarizing but what did you see from Stidham? And how did that compare to what you saw on his college tape? Yeah. I think you're right about the Auburn offense being polarizing. I'm not going to sit here and tell you I know no more than Gus Malzahn because I don't but you know, that was an offense for me that I don't think maximize quarterback play, but hey, maybe I'm totally wrong, but you know students showed excellent throwing skills in college. He just wasn't consistent player and you know at times I thought it was due to the Offense but in this given game against the Lions in the first preseason game, he was incredibly accurate great ball placement showed very good Poise in the pocket now, he was well well protected. So you have to understand that. I thought he showed a pretty refined feel for the route Concepts in the progressions. He showed really good footwork on his drop in set from under Center something he didn't do in college and we know that the Patriots coach hard, so I guarantee that's coaching. He made a couple of big time Thursday May actually made a throw. That was an incomplete pass to the tight end Ryan is o on a seam route versus split safety in the high Red Zone. It would have been a tough catch. It could have been caught but it was a really good throw. And so I thought he really looked good throwing the ball and look they drafted a quarterback in the fourth round. Fourth grounds. Not quite a throwaway pick. I'm not suggesting that you know, Tom Brady's out of here, you know after this year, but who knows, you know when you draft a quarterback? Back in the fourth round, you know, you're drafting him because you think he's got a chance to be your starting quarterback at some point down the road. Yeah. So when you talk about a guy like Stidham and we mentioned this earlier with with Daniel Jones when they don't drop back from under Center consistently in college, it doesn't mean they can't do it. It just means they're not asked to and they need to be coached into that. They need to be taught. There's a change in footwork. There's a change in Rhythm and timing if you're going to go play action you turn your back to the defense which these guys don't do. I mean don't forget a guy like charts to them grew up in Texas probably playing a ton of seven on seven and was probably in the shotgun from the time. He was two years old. So, you know, it's a whole different deal, you know, look I remember talking for years and years with Ron Jaworski talking about play action and the fact that when you turn your back to the defense and when you do it early in your career, it's a little scary because when you turn around the defense is not where they were before you, you know, you turned your back. And you know, it takes time to sort of process and understand. Where should I look when my snap my head around? What am I seeing? Because it's different than it was before the snap of the ball. And then you have all that goes together without my footwork has to be right. I have to understand my route concept, you know, it's a lot of things go with that that have to be learned. You don't just do that and Jared Goff is a success story in that regard because he was in the shotgun almost exclusively in college. That's correct. And that's coaching. And then that's your you know, theoretically anything in be coached. Then it has to be applied by the player and and that's that's great coaching and it's also a tribute to God that he accepted the coaching and clearly worked at it because when you watch golf with his footwork off their stretch their staple stretch run action, his footwork is really good Greg. You're obviously in the Philly area and it's going to happen in Philadelphia. Going to worry about the backup quarterback position until Carson Wentz makes it through another season healthy, right only fair. Nate son failed got hurt doesn't look like it's serious, but he but he broke his non-throwing hand or a non throwing wrist, right? Do you think the Eagles who now have Cody Kessler's their number two quarterback should make a move there or do they have the luxury of being able to wait for son felt. I think they'll wait. I mean, they might sign a guy but it's not going to be anybody that people go. Oh my God, because I don't know again. I don't have Have any inside information my guess is they don't want to overwork once at this point, you know whence has to be smarter to about how he plays in some areas. But you know, I don't I don't think they're going to go after anybody where we're going to go. Wow. That's that's unbelievable. They got him, you know, I think they'll live with what they have. You know from what I'm hearing said felt could be back by week three week for the latest, you know, so I think they'll go with what they have and if they bring someone in and we'll just be Well, they still have the rookie Thorson. Obviously, he's not ready to be a starting quarterback in this league. They know that but you know, I don't know if they feel they need a fourth guy just for a reps or if they're okay with three guys. What if son felt Straits Greg, what did you see in that? Because he played a lot before he went down in that game against the Titans. Yeah, you know such Paul was an interesting guy coming out of Indiana. I always thought he you know, when he came out of Indiana, he was an interesting Prospect, but I thought he was an odd thrower in the sense that he had a fast arm. But at times a slow ball, I think it's a little better since he's been in the league. He's tall. He's kind of stately in the way. He plays I think he's improved meaningfully. You know, it's always hard to sit here and say oh, yeah, that guy could be a starting quarterback and be fine. I don't know the answer to that I think in a system that that is really well schemed and I think the legal system is he could probably be an efficient player. Is he a high-level guy? Probably not but I think a healthy. But failed, you could line him up. If you had two four, two three four weeks and he could probably function in the context of that offense Greg. I obviously we're going to wrap it up here for pre-season Week 1 we have more tape coming up starting actually tonight here in preseason week two, but what can you tell the people about the NFL matchup shown what they anticipate this year Well, we started week one, you know, I've been grinding I've been actually watching a ton of tape from last season NFL tape, you know, once they get through the preseason tape, we start week one. We're on Saturday. A morning's on ESPN2 normally are time on ESPN2 on Saturday mornings is 8:30 a.m. And then we're on ESPN twice late night, which is a great time for the West Coast because we're usually on one am on late Saturday night into Sunday West Coast time and then early Sunday morning on ESPN. Usually it's 6:30 East Coast time. So it's the same times we were on last year will start promoting it hard on social media probably in the next week or so and Yeah, we're kind of ready to go. It's that time if you're not an early morning person or a late night person. We do have this wonderful thing Greg called DVR and you can actually talk into it. Now. You're a beautiful thing. Show me NFL matchup record me NFL matchup. Boom. There you go and a Greg that's what I'll be doing at. The matter of fact. I have it set up already, but I'll make sure I'm getting For You Joe good for you. I'm a loyal Watcher of the show Greg. I love it. I love a being able to visualize some of the things you talked about here. And I think it would help a lot of the people who are listening. To visualize some of the things so make sure you check out the NFL matchup show Greg. Thank you so much. We'll talk to you next week and we're going to put more players in the Hall of Fame. All right, I appreciate it. Thanks. What's up listeners? 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NFL Films legend Greg Cosell (@gregcosell) joins our Joe Dolan (@FG_Dolan) to break down what he saw in Preseason Week 1 from some of the young QBs in the NFL, including Daniel Jones, Kyler Murray, Josh Rosen, Dak Prescott, and Marcus Mariota. You don’t want to miss this one! A special congratulations to our own Joe Dolan for finishing #1 in Draft Accuracy for the 2018 season among 140+ sites and experts! This was Joe’s second #1 overall and third top-3 finish in the last 5 years, making his rankings THE most accurate preseason fantasy football draft rankings on average since 2015. Check out the complete list at fantasypros.com/nfl/accuracy/multi-year-draft.php. To draft against Joe, join the Rotowire Online Championship and select the online draft time of 8/20 at 9:30 PM Eastern. To draft against Tom, do the same on 8/27 at 9:30 PM Eastern. Play for the $200,000 grand prize! 