All right, welcome back to best our of their day. We're continuing our series of bringing on the derelict doctors. And today. We have a new friend of mine. Ron Torrance. I met Ron couple weeks ago is working to level 1 and where were we Tampa and I was with a good buddy. You're good buddy Nunu and he invited you and your fiance not quite white Veil yet out to dinner and then we all just kind of hit it off, I think. I think that's pretty common amongst the CrossFit Community. We just make friends pretty easily. Would you agree with that? Oh Harvey said I think I think we know a lot about CrossFit and what that brings us together as a community, but then we start nerding out about whether it's about we ate the bone marrow at the restaurant right? Where said they're going why is this so much better for us and like we we didn't necessarily like it the most but it was something that we talked about but I feel like everybody in the CrossFit Community is going to be somebody that No, it's going to finish. Something isn't going to quit on you. There's a lot of things that actually bring us together as a community and they're also going to do you're going to support each other right? Another some things that I think that Community aspect really is a good foundation and something that I talk to patients about all the time or it's exercise diet sleep Stress Management, and then you need that Community component and that's really what the CrossFit Community brings. You know, that's a good point because we tell people, you know every box at some point we'll have a cheater someone that shaves reps and often my responses. Who cares that person will weed themselves out and it's the same principle that you just said, I don't care how fit you are and I don't care if you're scaling I care that you did the work and I care that you're you know, doing your best and and and that's really what you've just said what what I want though. I kind of gave a really broad brush overview is it truth is I don't know but, you know tell me all about yourself and if you wouldn't mind your fiance as well, so we we sat down at Tampa you news like these are my two. And and by the way, he won't tell you this but he goes he goes beforehand. It was me Katie and noon and he's like just so you know, they're really high energy, you know, and I'm like, all right, you know and it's a Saturday night and for the record after day one of a level one, you're a little tired, you know, you're looking forward to a chill night, but your energy was definitely contagious like Katie Nunu and I were definitely after like that was oh, yeah and that we had an intern there as well. Well, and you know, we were all just like wow. Their energy was fun. Like it was like hi, but it wasn't like I need to get away from these people high either. So thanks for that and again right away. I was like, I got to get this guy on the show. You were great, dude, but but let the listeners know who you are. Yeah. So, I'm Ron horns. I'm a Deo and my practice is based out of Tampa and Sarasota Florida. My practice is regenx Tampa Bay. So I specialize in Orthopedic regenerative medicine with That being mostly platelet-rich plasma and bone marrow derived stem cells. And so we treat Orthopedic injuries differently than 95 to 99% of the orthopedic world. We like to call ourselves Interventional Orthopedics Specialists. And that's something that really I've had my shoulder treated and I think everybody's had some sort of injury to deal with it. They've been in CrossFit something that happens is when you're active you're doing something something is inevitably going to inevitably going to come up to bother you and I Love this approach I get up screaming passionate about it. As you said my energy I just love what I do. So, I think that just kind of comes out and me when anybody talks to me is that I just love what I do and love meeting with people. I really feed off people's energy and I think that new no, noo noo has a lot of energy of self. So I don't think is himself credit there and I think it's just a kind of a conglomeration of you know, friend seeing each other in different areas and really bringing all that energy to the same space. So that's what I do. That's why I specialize in so I specialize in regenerative medicine doctor of Osteopathic Medicine my fiancee she's chiropractor and she specializes in musculoskeletal medicine. She was a former rosti. So she was one of the clinical directors for rosti before we met at the 2016 regionals during the last event when I don't know whether you remember the 2016 Atlanta Atlanta regionals Evans was up on the rope and did he clinched your did he not before he touched? The pole and that's when when Abby and I met so it's something that's very memorable for us for like we're sitting there watching it. We're sitting there going. I don't know like they're going back to the film and then that subsequently made him not actually finish. So it was Crawford brought us together. And so now we kind of have a very unique practice where I do a lot of the regenerative treatments. She sees people post procedurally through our joint owned love Health where the most important relationship of your life is your health, and we really want to try to get people back to doing Things they love because that's what we love to do. And we want to make sure it's you get back to activity motion is lotion that kind of thing. So, I think it's a good induction you doing anything else. I'm also I'm also one of the dearly doctors as you said very nicely the DDC. I was out there this past weekend and it was super fun. We were we didn't work out with Dave and in traditional day fashion, he kind of like stumbles through the workout and the super fun because he's like what we're going to do. We're going to do burpees over each other and then Then we're going to run and we're gonna walk out we're going to run this and then we're going to we're going to progress up 10-10-10 out parking spaces and this can be 10 rounds and it was like just super fun because once you get to know Dave outside of the CrossFit games, that's really kind of the cool thing about Dave Castro is he's working when he's at the CrossFit Games. He's not being rude to you but he's at work and this is the biggest this is his Super Bowl and he's not trying to be rude, but he's really got to get his team and his crew in the right places and he's by one of the nicest guys, you know. I met out there along with Greg and just love it out there. So good energy and atmosphere and we're trying to really expose the truth about medicine. So that's really kind of where I'm a nutshell and yeah, and also also known well, let me kind of next thing. So I also own a box in Philly where I did all my training and that's CrossFit love and head up there this weekend. We're having a Christmas party, but definitely that's where I kind of got my start and went down the rabbit hole. Oh love CrossFit and enjoying what I do. So I really love what I do and I hope I can make sure every else loves what they do. Well, you gave us definitely the elevator pitch but couple things that you hear that one. I think it needs to be said that Dave Castro gets a bad reputation, you know for sure and I think he is one of the nicest and most genuine people and he's one of those people that you know, if you were in a bind he'd be there absolutely and you know, so I think people kind of see this image that he portrays and you know, they seem at the As we know where he barely says a word but he's busy and at the end of every game he made sure that he makes a point to say hi to the judges and Shake our hands and make sure that we get, you know, a little kudos for all the hard work. So definitely Dave gets a bad rap what youth funny bring up the Atlanta Regional the so I was pretty friendly with Jeff. I let me know when I lived in Florida his box about 30 minutes away. But yeah, I remember what he didn't make it and one of the judges I've heard the story numerous times. His name is Mike G of He meant Mikey I think so if I saw my probably know, you know, when you're ready. He's no longer with Crossfit. He's with the salt bike. He's been on the podcast but he's the one that came over to Jeff and made that call and when the cameras showed it he kind of put his hands up in the air. Like I told you guys he didn't do it and Dave yells at him to this day because it's like as a judge you should be unbiased and he was in the call, but after She just wanted to let everybody know that he was right, but but they've kind of talked about that and yes, unfortunately cost Jeff a spot at the games. But and lastly you brought up CrossFit love I think you and I talked about it, but cross the love was actually the 1000 affiliate. Yes. Yes. I was a true. So you get free affiliate fees. I believe back in the day that maybe you don't get it anymore. But originally when they got that I remember there was a whole thing going on as probably 2008 and I knew the original owner of cross. For love and he got free affiliate dues for life at the time. Yeah, so lots to talk about but lets you know, the people listening to the CrossFit Health episodes really want to hear about what's going on in California when you guys are out there and you and Abby go out there what quarterly now It's roughly quarterly. Yes that did he sees are usually quarterly so the next one's going to be February 2nd. That's actually the day before my birthday. We are intending on going out at this point and it's something where I make the time to get out there because there's a lot of good speakers that come to the to the CDC and the the host now has become it was Pat Sherwood petrol and still is the host but what they've graciously done is Gary tabs, who is the writer and author of good calories bad calories he also Another book called why we get fat. He's also coming out with another book but these are really what exposed the lipid hypothesis how actually how wrong the lipid hypothesis was according to according to Gary taubes that he's an investigative journalist who people don't know him. He's fantastic. We have a read through these books definitely check them out a good calories bad calories and why we get fat and it's talking about how we really demonized fats and made them the source of problems for medicine and Andrea. They it's not the fats that are the problem is really these sugars. And what we did was we really caused people to start decreasing their consumption of fats. And what we've seen is the increase increasing rise of obesity diabetes since that's happened because what do we play at replace fast with we replaced with carbs carbs are easy easier to eat. They cause you to increase your caloric consumption and it's usually, you know, very empty calories. And those are those are increasing calories. So, you know, A lot of people that go. Well your demonizing it's saying that you know, the sugars is causing the problem. I would say that the consumption of sugar causes an increase of caloric intake which we all know, if you increase your caloric intake a coupled with you know caloric intake you're going to cause an increase in weight gain and if it's carbohydrates usually it's in the abdominal tissue the abdominal fat so that's something that really isn't that's one of the biggest things that we talked about out there and Gary taubes is really the kind of like the guy who's like the host down this week this past weekend. And you know, we had four different speakers one one was very memorable. She talked about she was a female and she talked about sexual dysfunction and how obesity is causing you not be able to get erections and that's part of the really the vascular problems that come when people get obese and they caught they cause a lot of vascular issues. She was super super funny and they pat Sherwood said that she's also a stand-up comedian which I wouldn't Out she was pretty entertaining. The other person was a scene for his name a seam. He's a he's a cardiologist out of England and he works for the like the NIH I believe right now and he was fantastic. He was super well-spoken and talks about really how the industries of you know, sugar really kind of have paid off a lot of the journals and making making the journals really kind of show us that you know, you can do they pay for all these studies and if the study isn't show what they wanted to show they pretty much just squash the study and at the end of the day, you know, you know, I think that Sugar causes overconsumption of calories which causes are really our General Health to go down and if we can really get off the couch and off the carbs, that's really the Mantra that we really go with the DC. So so you guys all get out there and is it just a bunch of crazy doctors that are like the you know, we are doctors in your world that don't believe Honestly don't believe but don't prescribe to what most other doctors do is it just like a party the entire time or are you guys studying and thinking about how to advance this is it just casual get-together? It's like what goes on at these DC's I give us the backstage pass. If you will since most of us will never get to check these out great question. And what I what I would relate this to is when you go to water palooza when you go any of these sanctions, right? Right, if you're not participating in the sanctions, what is it about? It's about the relationships that you build and I think that's that's for any conference that you go to sew this conference is more about linking up like-minded people to run try to really solve the problem. That is the Healthcare System right? It's not a Health Care System. It's a sick care system. We treat the people when they get sick, we don't prevent problems at this point. We just treat people when they get sick, so we'll give you a diabetes medication when you have diabetes will give A hypertensive medication we have hypertension. And when one of the best prescriptions is physical fitness and diet exercise and diet. So that's really why you know, and also you can talk about this at the level one. What's the first part of the pyramid for the level one do trician, right? Absolutely. So so that's really really where I think the biggest misconception is, you know, we're not going out there and having a big party. We're actually trying to figure out ways to make our system a better system and right now it's Broken, it's really, you know almost over 11 percent of our GDP. Last time I checked was out was our healthcare system and it continues to climb because it's a sick care system and the more sick we get people the more drugs they take the more money that gets fed back into the pharmaceutical industry which then ends up doing this vicious cycle. So and that's why you know, if we don't fix this, you know, we're going to we're going to really go broke the country's gonna go broke up because the healthcare So that's what we're trying to fix. We're trying to expose the truth and really try to start. You know, that's really the CrossFit Health. It starts with the truth. And once we expose the truth, we can figure out that from that bad. Imagine. There's a little bit of partying going on. So so so let me I'll give you my my this past weekend. So I flew into Santa Rosa. We got the drive down over the Golden Gate which is super fun. Never been over the Golden Gate Bridge. And so that was on Saturday. Okay, so we get there and so first night. Right. I worked with Daniel Hale and organized a little mixer. So for we can all get together and again have those conversations. What are you doing in your practice? How can we help our patients more? How can we do those things? You know, you're having a drink but you know, it's something where this is, you know, you're trying to have a drink to try to help solve problems. The guy I spoke to he was out there. Please put his name up, but he's got a direct primary care practice that he has started. And he was he had 6,000 patients in his practice before having to having to care for 6000 patients and he told everybody he gave them a letter and said Hey, listen, I'm only accepting 350 patients from a direct primary care, which will be $75 a month so that you can have access to working with me more one-on-one and I don't have to see a huge number of patients and this is something that's really big push and movement right now because you can't functionally see 6000. Patience and your panel and really have people actually have more than 5 minutes 10 minutes with the with the doctor now direct primary care practice allows for more time with your doctor, which is what we're trying to do trying to really push the envelope and try to do a better way to prevent problems before they become problems. So that's a you know, so that was the first sudden I saw walk you through the whole weekend. So it was it's like this through. Yeah, so so that was the first conversation we had and then Tom McCoy. He's a So he was there as well. He's a ER doctor at a he's a he's a director for a regional hospital in in California. He shows up pretty frequently and he's been there pretty pretty religiously. So we talked I talked with him about just about you know, what that looks like in that from the other side right the reverse side of the coin, you know, they have this guy who's going into direct primary care, which is more the preventative side. And we also have the side where you know, Tom he's seen people come in with diabetic ketoacidosis with problems that are preventable if they start doing exercise and eating right but they're coming in and they're just going doc. Give me a pill or you know, and they're dying and before we 50 from heart attacks and they're not taking care of themselves and they fall down they break their hip because they don't have exercise because of osteoporosis or osteopenia. These are things that are really plugging our health care industry. And so these conversations are really good to have because he sees that side and he's like, you know having a kid who's 16 come in to come in and He's a diabetic ketoacidosis. That's because he's got type 2 diabetes at 16 years old. He's 400 pounds and he's you know, he's essentially become a you know, it's it's the it's not really the direct result of his fault, but I think it's upbringing we got to really work on figuring out how to correct his dietary habits, which probably start with this family which you're probably also overweight or obese and having problems. So it starts the beginning and you have to start with the exercise and you know exercising Diet again going back to nutrition really kind of hammering that home and making sure that people are eating right and same way from sugars and processed foods. So that's kind of like what we did on Saturday night. And this one they watch the fights good fights, right? Yeah. Yeah. It was man. Finally got home. I think said, yeah, I thought I thought Covington. I mean you had a broken jaw in the third round. I think he did a just shows a tough. Those guys are but This is also coinciding with a level one. Correct? Yes. So so the GDC is the are the people who have gone to the level one already. So the level one for the new MD level ones they go out on they get there on Saturday morning and they do their Saturday class. It's a typical level 1 and they go through the typical level one training really and with one caveat, you know someday Greg came. Came and spoke to all of us the DDC and the level 1 at CrossFit HQ do and gave us a talk about really why this weekend was actually I don't know if you guys saw the recent settlement for four million dollars from the NSA was an essay and is C so the nsca and they're they're deleting files and all this kind of stuff and we had a really good breakdown on what actually happened there. It was pretty pretty appalling to see what the NSA went through to try. You really damaged called crossfit's culture and crossfit's across its name, right? They pretty much slandered CrossFit or is it or is it was libel or slander It Was Written right? So it's thing is liable. I'm not either way. They yeah, they lied about CrossFit and injuries and all that good stuff. So it's nice to see that it was finally resolved in CrossFit was you know free and clear of all of those. So as someone you mean you're really fit guy, You know you do Ragnar races, you compete locally all that kind of stuff. I think one of the biggest push backs that we got in the community is when coach glass were made a lot of shifts in the last year to write. So via the website be it, you know the shift from Regional the sanctions with a little less emphasis. It seems like on competition, although this year is super exciting and I think you know, it's pretty cool to see long-term. His vision is actually working. Yeah, right, you know really his goal is to push Health. Where do you what do you tell people that are out there that are you know, I love Crossfit because of this or that and now it's like this guy's just trying to push Health like as a doctor. What do you say to those people and how do you feel about it? So it's a great question and Greg Greg says it best Pat says it best Sherwood and there's a picture with starting a Legends course and Masters course and this is where I think Ink that we we forgotten where we are roots are as a CrossFit Community. This is It's a community and the it's you know, you're only as strong as your weakest link and you got to cheer on even the last person finishes and that's really what this is all about. Right skinny people healthier and getting people off the couch off the carbs and and you know, if you're if you're your mom or grandma or sitting there and they're trying to get their their their groceries to the house, what do they have to do on a regular date? Basis if they have to put their grocery down front door, if to do a deadlift and the squat and then to do these fundamental things and if we're not focusing on health, you know, we're going to continue to you know, getting those people in to do some exercise and movement and that's really where I think that we've kind of Forgotten Our Roots. The games are the CrossFit Games. They were something that came on, you know, kind of like got everything notoriety but CrossFit as a whole and as a as what this was based on, you know, the level 1 Ian's the first first box right? We have to make sure we focus on what's the most important thing the people who come in the gym it kind of frustrates me when I see people come in the gym with the donuts and all these kind of things that are super super unhealthy super sugar packed and I'm sitting there going like, you know, like come on guys. I mean like this is you know, or you know, especially if it's a coach right if it's if it's if it's somebody a member of the Hey listen, you know, it's okay to have a cheat day every once awhile and they have it you have a good snack and stuff, but I really we've got to leave. Example and a lot of times we forget what we're trying to do. It's not about how how strong the strongest one is, but it's how strong the whole Community is and that's why Sparta was as strong as they were back in mythology, right? They they were they were strong if one Shield or one she had went up or one Shield got taken down. The shield was the most important part in in Sparta because they had as a team. Now if your shoulder your helmet came off that didn't bother anybody, but the Shield would make a weak Link in the whole line and cause people possibly to defeat defeat the Spartans. So we gotta remember that we have to help and raise up every person in the community and it's not just one person. That is our community. It's every single member in your general. I like that. Yeah, and you know, I think there's a lot of people myself included who probably you're guilty of. Hey, we bring in these Foods in that foods for fun or post-workout and you know, we use that kind of excuse of oh glycogen. We have to replenish it. But yeah, there's probably people with the box that are struggling with their nutrition and maybe no matter what their workout look like shouldn't be having a donut post-workout and it's important to remember, you know, I know when I've had my boxes or even just been a coach's box as you bring in the leftovers from you know, the holidays that were about to have but yeah, you're you might be able to hold strong and and have willpower but the other people might not be able to so we're do you see it you kind of have an Side view and you hear coach Glassman talked last week. Click. Where do you think we're going, you know, 2018 and 2019 where a big change for a lot of people from you know, the the change in the Regionals to to opens to the change in the website January 1 of this past year. What do you think's going to happen in 2020 and Beyond? So they 20 and 20 and Beyond really we're going to be more of the first 2020s. Give me the first new year of the actual the open being in October and being officially in October. I think it's going to be good because quite frankly I'm worn out I did both opens and and I quite frankly I've been trying to do this the million meter row and it's been very very taxing, but it's almost been good because it's almost like my active. Cover after a whole year when you're doing you know, you get 10 weeks of the open and giving your all on all these workouts and sometimes repeating them. If you're somebody who really is really like passionate about it. You're really putting your CNS on overload and I'm super excited to see kind of what this year plays out. Like I do think that you know, I think the website is fantastic now, I think it's got a lot of good stuff, you know, get your family into the boxes. I think that that's really what we're you know, we're working on for this year. I can tell you that. Sherwood and Nicole Carol are working on really making sure that we have things that people can do at home when they're when they're on their couch or by their couch. I think you've probably seen the amazing living room on on Crawford.com. And that's really what we're trying to do. We're trying to help more people get healthy and that's probably the most underserved population. They get to their 50s and like my dad included my dad used to run like six miles and stuff. I used to watch. Him do a lot of things he's played baseball everything and now he's like, oh, well, you know I hurt and I'm like, well, are you doing any exercise you sit there? You know you do your thing. Now I see him stretching and doing things because she sees my brother and I really being good influence and I went to that Ragnar and I'm like, you know, you should be doing some squats, you know, I looked at your bones man, and I treated him I'm treating him and and I come like hey you like withering away. We need to get some like more protein in your diet. We need to get you doing some more exercise. This is good for bone density, right? What's good for arthritis exercise and eating right? And then what's good for you know, that's really going to help make your bones stronger. What's good for osteoporosis? Osteopenia exercise weight bearing exercise and these are things that you know, I think that what we're going to see 2020 is that we're going to see a traditional year a new traditional year coupled with really good verbiage and and I think that we're going to see you no more Community. I think this is gonna be great for Community because quite frankly doing you know the open and like being teams and all that kind of stuff yet. So many people vying for these spots. It makes you you know, I personally like from 2016 2 mm like 18 or 19 2015 to 2018. Not yet 14 says so I feel like my body was like just getting destroyed working out and and one of the offseason for CrossFit right like so this past year we haven't had one we had we had no downtime and I think that some people you need to have it right baseball has an off season 4 Reason go to the gym workout CrossFit has used was to go to the gym workout and after CrossFit that they should have an offseason maybe do some sports. Maybe just you know a little bit more Dynamic get some more. I think one thing across the kind of doesn't do as much but it depends on the programming is no lateral movements some Dynamic movements to try to really work on some of those the crossbody stuff. So unless you said you'd you do things like the Ragnar your so you're rolling a million miles we just had Greg Hammond on wanted to see you doing a million miles over the course of the year, but meters have millimeters millimeters, I mean and She began on January 1st. Yeah, Kathy Glassman comes up to me when we were out there the DDC in December and she goes she was do you want to do a million meters? And so she has this whole spreadsheet and I got to admit I'm pretty behind I'm probably gonna have to roll a lot here in these last days and hopefully make it and that that's the that's the challenge right? You know, let's see 1 million. Let me try to type this into my computer right now one. I can't tell many zeros I have. Okay, there's zero divided by by 365. Yep. So you need to do over a 2K every day over 2K every day. Yes right needed to point about eight. So so if you do 4K U 4K you get a hundred days off so conflicted so you do for can we have let me do the math against it to 65 times when we see this times 4 Equals. Oh, I know should be 4,000. Yeah that puts you over a million. Okay, but that's a lot you say it in the way like, hey, we just do it for a couple times a week. No big deal. Oh, yeah, and that's and that's the thing this week and she's like we got to figure out a better thing for next year because she's got old and I'm like absolutely can we do anything with a nerd like can we do like the bike the row and us and the skier? Maybe we can be a cool like hey, you can do a million meters in any kind of conjunction of those three things. I think I've never heard someone do the million meters that doesn't get to about this point in the year and realized They made a big mistake, you know, and it's like I got a row a marathon the next seven days in a row, you know, that's almost anyone that doesn't million meters gets to this point very few people start and stay consistent for 365 days. Well, and and so so here's here's my here's my Bugaboo, right? I had we had to opens and then you know, I'm a person who wants to do. I've been doing awaken training series with Marcus Philly. We're doing this at the be like the kind of came out and I enjoy it. It's something more where I'm doing a little more functional body building stuff and I'm doing a lot of cross body a lot of kettlebell stuff but not every day a my rowing. So I would add a back a row into there. And if I had rowing it's like I tried to translate that like, you know, whatever rowing I did like recorded it but like, you know some days it's like there's no rolling in there. So like I changed it to a bike or a change like a skier. You're so pretty, you know, I'd go to the row and like I don't know if that's the right stimulus. I think I'm doing a lot a lot of pulling but you know, it was it's been fun. It's been fun because it's you do a 2K warm up, right? If yours did 2K warm up. It's full, you know, you're sitting there for what eight minutes, you know, it's not bad. I mean that's all you know really need to stick to and then maybe do another like if you have any work if you have any doing the workout and you're good and I happen Greg Ham and hook me up with refurbished rower. I bought that from him from from Concept to accept the house now. So I use it all the time. Yeah, this is like you basically need a row at your house. If you're going to mean you could do it at the box, but you're just going to be in the way and you know, I've had Rose in my previous homes before and you know, whether you're training for something specific. It's easy to throw on some Netflix and you can row so, you know Greg though. Yeah. Yeah great to just on if you guys listen to this episode Greg talks all about concept to great great guy. But yeah anybody that gets into these challenges I know on the level 1 staff. There's a guy named you've probably met him Brian Kantor. She's been on her episode but Tosh Nicole's fiance and there's always a crew of people that do something crazy. I think they've done a row in the past. I know one year they did as many rounds of Cindy as you can do in a year and you get it's almost like we do this cross the thing so we don't specialize but then you end up specializing. Yeah, but I'm gonna have to hook you up with some muscle on our key courtesy and thunder bro when we get This episode you like that, you know, it's a similar to Marcus and stuff. He's got some great stuff out there. So what's next for you in 2020? What are you going to do to help lead the charge to get people to understand how important this Fitness thing is. So yeah, so what I'm going to do, so, I just emailed Kathy and said what the challenge this year. Well, keep me posted. Let me know what it is if it's something that's in my wheelhouse. Maybe I'll maybe I'll shoot Kathy a message and see if I can get in on it. I need a little challenge. Yeah, I just shot over here. Oh, hey Kathy with the challenge for this year because we talked about it. We never we never actually to find it. You know, that's so so one of the things for this year. So I'm actually becoming partner my practice which is super super exciting congrats. We're open or opening a Miami location, February 3rd, and that's a been a big big. I don't think it's super super building a location if anybody's open a box you can understand that but medical becomes a little bit even more. A lot of there's a lot of T's to cross and I Sadat making sure that you have a licensing and all those kind of things. So that's what that's what I do. But in my practice it's something it's nice because my business or an hour long and I get to talk to people about nutrition about that exercise component about how they can get back to doing what they love and that's what mm really 20 holes for me is, you know, I want to continue to help people avoid orthopedic surgery and that's really what for me is happening from the GDC. Perspective I know that they're starting a beta test for on the website. They're going to have any previous DC member or MBA level ones listed on the website. So I actually do some some functional consults to try help people. If they're in adrenal fatigue or those kind of things still kind of like as a little caveat. My fiancé does most of the initial consults and who it's super super taxing. I'll jump in because I'm actually And the medical Advisory board for dr. Axe.com and also for Chris Kresser and if you know either those guys, yeah, but yeah, so Chris Kresser is functional medicine does a lot of stuff. You just saw now that your Rogan podcast which games Wilkes combatant talking about the greatest movie ever. It is documentary ever. What is it called? Like game changes. Don't get me started on that. That's a hole. That was a great episode though. You have you guys are listening it was entertaining because I mean basically you have these people arguing but something you know, it was it was a always like when you can see people arguing different points, but in a friendly way and let's say was friendly but there was no yelling. There was no screaming there are no threats. But basically Chris keslar comes off kind of like a serial killer, you know, and I mean that in a good way super-smart, I believe him I'd trust him like but he's just I say that in such a way that he doesn't show emotion. He's making very valid points. He has his notes and he doesn't let it deviate. He doesn't get emotionally invested and I think that throws off the game's Wilkes and this example because he was so heated. Yes, but the Kessler's just like no this is the truth and it's like you're almost afraid of those people like I want you to get mad, but you're not and that was cool is it there's a great episode and definitely eye-opening and if you get if you're a boxing or coaching you getting your Members at ask you about game changers go listen to that because it'll point you towards the truth. Absolutely and that's that's my biggest thing, you know in that in that podcast and just kind of spoiler alert. If you want to don't want to listen you don't want to like, you know anything about podcasting to listen to yourself don't listen to this. But so the biggest thing that I saw was They both agree on the same fundamental diet. It's plant-based with well Source means and to get enough plant-based and nuts nuts seeds and like lettuce and all these kind of like greens right and greens. You have to eat a lot of greens really and then there's well Source Meats really give you that protein and even those together really help really they're talking about like kind of her most that was it a return that they are her most Most it wasn't her Mosasaur. But there's a term the term a where you have a Synergy with the plants and the meats together actually making super beneficial for you and having the bioavailability that meets have with the B vitamins and such and they talk about the B vitamins being. Okay. Well, yeah, they supplement it. Well that's poor sources of meat. They have to supplement it with poor sources of meat and it's just one of those things where you know Kresser made like one he makes like one statement and James will jump down his throat. I was like, you know, listen, you're not he the problem that I had with it was I liked it. That was a great discussion a lot. A lot of times Joe is super good at really kind of leading the discussion and being the mediator, but the one thing that I found was a little bit kind of perplexing to me was was the way James Wilkes personally kind of attacked Chris Kresser. Yeah, you didn't you said this. It's like no man. We're just we're having a discussion here and he asked them to clarify his point of view at the start and James bounce all over that question. And just to me is this somebody you know, James is a very good very good debater, but I don't necessarily think he had the right percent like he does make Illusions in that film that I'm concerned about and that I think my patients they're my patients would be concerned about looking at right they look like they have red meat and then they put like immediately put like cigarette smoking next to it and he doesn't make the statement. He's like, oh, well that wasn't meant to be that way but you put it right next to cigarette smoking. What do you think people are going to think in their head? You know, it's like you're making a Jeans and just because you're not saying it doesn't mean that people aren't thinking it and any was trying to win these like in my opinion these little small battles of like peanut butter and it was like no one cared. Okay, you're right. It's three scoops of peanut butter zone 5 like who cares like that's not the big picture argument that we're trying to make here. It was just like these little tiny wins versus actually confronting the big issue. Well, Ron anything else ad for the listeners that are out there tuning in to hear you? Yeah. Yeah. So so one thing I like to talk about is our company regenexx. We are really the world's leading provider of regenerative treatments. We have if you go to regenexx.com re GE NEX x.com, you can look up studies talking about, you know, really what can be treated with regenerative medicine. And if you're looking for a provider you have some injuries or anything like that that be fantastic to you know, obviously check that website out they do have The 40 different locations throughout the country. I obviously would prefer that you come see me in Florida get a Florida vacation if you have any problems come see me, but that's fantastic. We just go to the website and see which one's close to you and they have a really cool like actually a way that the website actually would direct you to the one that's closest to you when you actually go on the website, which is pretty cool. So that's something that you know, I'm super I think the people get you know cut on for the wrong things meniscectomy. He's cutting out of meniscus is not beneficial. There's multiple studies. Now that show that don't ever get Fusion everybody's talking about the fusion make sure that you try some injection therapy for your lumbar spine. If you have any back problems or anything like that just some things that you know, there's there's really no good evidence anymore pointing out like for those kind of treatments and I want to make sure that people find an alternative to surgery and at least try that first it's you know in my in my field it's an Interventional Orthopedics is definitely worth a shot and trying to make sure that person is better. So that would that's the only thing I mean like, yeah, we'll definitely check that out. Let me ask for a free diagnosis while we're on the phone here. I have something known as hallux rigidus. Have you heard of it? Yes. Yes. Is that treatable by you guys? Absolutely and that's something that your great toe is very, you know, it's almost become fused essentially if that's what yes and painful extremely painful. Absolutely man. I could I could get you injecting your joint and see if we can get you some some relief. I do PRP or stem cells in that joint depending on how severe the hallux rigidus. Is be happy to see you and you want to document we could like even happy to come down and have like a little little treatment vacation and we could get you going live. I'll inject you live. Well, you know, I you know, I don't know why I didn't think of it when we met but yeah, you know, I did have one cortisone shot and about two years ago. It helped tremendously, but I was like, okay, I don't want to be doing this forever and the cortisone shot itself with me like immobile for about a week like I could barely walk on it. And I've just been dealing with it in the meantime don't like okay. Maybe I need to do something. I ordered a little braid, you know, it hurts primarily when I trained you Jutsu which is everyday and lunges because there's no flexion than that toe. Right so basically avoid lunges or when I have to and things like the open I basically step with my foot turned out in a way that I'm probably going to hurt something else. So yeah, I got to either get to Tampa find if there's a got a spot here in Boulder. Yeah. Well, so one of my good buddies Jace Our covid we actually was one of the original G guys at the CrossFit Games. I think is there in 2011 for medical Marco and I don't know Kaylee and he was one of the original like medical staff. So he's out there. He's at the centeno Schultz clinics Clinic out in Broomfield and he's a good friend of mine. Get shout out to him. He's an MD level one as well. We went to the same one together. That was the last one at the ranch and he does fantastic work, you know, always that you have a cold though. Come you get a beach day or two. To me treat, you know, I like to I like to play up our Florida Florida Medical medical leave trip, you know. Well, yeah, I'm familiar, you know, I lived in Naples for few years. If I do that I have to visit all my family, you know the stress than that. But yeah, maybe I can sneak into Tampa or get a seminar schedule there again and all the trips, you know when you travel as much as I do for CrossFit and for other things you just want to stay home over the holidays. Yeah, I can appreciate that man. I traveled a good deal because of the Box in Philly so but yeah, so yeah, man. No, I appreciate you having me on if anybody has any questions. Hit me up. I'm at love Health doc. That's my handle on Instagram and you know happy to answer questions slide my DMs shoot me super some questions. I do I do Facebook Live Events. If you're on my you're on my follow me on Facebook wrong Torrance. I do Facebook Live Events. Bi-weekly on Tuesdays where I answer anybody's questions about regenerative treatments anything about nutrition and happy to answer those things too and just trying to really change the health care to be better care and makes making people happy happy and healthy and make sure that they are able to love the ones they love, you know, awesome. Yes, I could appreciate everything you're doing and like Ron said check them out. Check out regenexx. Check out his Instagram go check out his Facebook lives because you know, it's I think you're seeing that tide. At least a little bit and then the health world and it's one of the first questions I whether I ask or check them out. It's like hey, could I just my doctor do this stuff? And I think that's super important. So it's it's great that you're leading by example and really taking charge. So yeah, and we're going to I'm going to hit you up right now once we get off and get set up to get some something done to this toe. It's amazing how such a small little joint impacts my life. I had a I had a broke my toe real quick caveat. I broke my toe playing beach volleyball and I've got very similar minds at my not that that joint but the one distal to it, so I'm right there with you man. I'm trying to like make sure that my toes stay healthy, but it does bother you does it does make a difference and he can't Dorsey Flex that toe, you know, I'll have my fiance work with you with a little bit of range of motion Mobility on the toe. She should do some like our joint mobs and then I'll get you treated and we You're better sounds good. Well, thanks so much for being on. I appreciate it. They just have a great great hours for your day guys. Okay the best. 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On today’s episode Jason Ackerman sits down Ron Torrance is an MD-L1 and part of the Derelict Doctor Club (DDC) which has come up a few times. Ron runs the Regenesis Tampa Bay, whereby he treats Orthopaedic injuries differently by using rich plasma and bone marrow stem cells — giving people another option before surgery. He is very involved with Crossfit HQ by going there about every three months, and he’s an affiliate owner Crossfit Love, in Philly. They are looking to open a second affiliate in Maini that would allow for a merge of Crossfit and health care in one. Ackerman and Ron discuss everything from NSCA court case to the shift that Crossfit made over the year to 18 months. Also an almost behind the scene look at the DDC, which, to most of us one we will never get the opportunity to attend and is still a mystery. Check out the extra content about this episode on besthouroftheirday.com Rate/subscribe in Apple Podcasts! Find us on Instagram: @besthouroftheirday + @thejasonackerman Check out our website - besthouroftheirday.com - to learn more about our private coaches development group. 