This episode is sponsored by my go to stop for all things make up its Revlon. Hey everybody. I'm Ashley Graham and this is pretty big deal. We're confidence is key every episode. I get to pick the brains of brilliant and inspiring honest new and old friends who are a pretty big deal today. We are talking to the incredible. Arianna Huffington, you may know her name from The Huffington Post and 2016 Ariana left the Huffington Post in order to pursue a new passion Wellness. We have Arianna Huffington here. Thank you so much for coming on for now. I'm so happy. I love you. I love you you so I walked into your home for the freedom baby event. And you were interviewing Amy Schumer's well and you were just so inviting it was immediately walk in your home and it's like Its warmth. It's beautifully decorated. Your sister was so cute. She was barefoot running around and it was just it was just a really nice event and I just feel like that's how you welcome everybody into your home. Well, I love our kind of really Thrive tribe of women supporting each other and helping each other along the journey. Yeah. Yes stress. It's very important and I want to talk to you about Thrive, but I That we have to start with Huffington Post. Yes, and I think that you've conquered so many amazing things in your life. But what was it about Huffington Post that made you want to start? I don't read you written a lot of books. I've written a total of 15 books and in 2005 when I launched I haven't passed I could see that the conversation had moved on lie. Hmm that a lot of people were just having the most important conversations online and I wanted to make sure that people who wouldn't start their own blog. Could be part of the conversation. So on the day that we launched to have an Impulse to had Ellen Degeneres and Walter Cronkite was now dead and Larry David and Ari Emanuel from WME and tons of people who would never have blogged. So we elevated blogging and then we added reporting. We want a Pulitzer Prize. We added International editions in 18 countries and two years into building The Huffington Post. I was by then the divorced mother of two daughters. I collapsed, you know, I had bought into this delusion that in order to be super mom and super interpreter. You just basically didn't have time to take care of yourself. You just didn't have time to sleep or rest or recharge. And so I Collapse I hit my head on my desk in the corner of my desk on the way down broke my cheekbone cheekbone. Wait, do you remember the feeling of passing out or do you completely blacked out? I completely blacked out. I literally came to in a pool of my own blood and nobody had shot me wait. So when you woke up, what was your first reaction? Well complete this orientation. I didn't really know what had happened. Did you wake up on your own? It was in my office in my home office. And so literally my assistant was upstairs. It's like three-story office. Had the bag and came down and a second to the hospital. And the worst part is that they don't know what's wrong with you. Right? You know IG have a brain tumor. Do you have a heart problem? So I had this long journey of every test, you know MRIs echocardiograms Etc. And at the end of all the tests. I had one Doctor Who was acting like the master. Mind of all the tests and here's a bit philosophical and sardonic settle me Ariana. There's nothing wrong with you. But there's everything wrong with you. You know, there's nothing the medical profession you can do for you you're suffering from he called it civilizations disease burnout. Whoo, and he said you have to change your life. The World Health Organization is just recognized as As a real syndrome, right? It's no longer just a phrase. We use it's real it has huge Health consequences and it also has huge mental health consequences as we're seeing with the incredible increase in suicides and anxiety suicides. So were you happy to hear that? It was burn out or were you more upset? No, I was I'm kind of a bit of a node, so I thought I wanted to understand. So I want to understand what today is and what's happening and I started reading and meeting with scientists and really seeing that this wasn't just my problem. Hmm that this was a huge Global epidemic and that it had started with man who after all have designed our world. Although we're working on JJ. Yes. We are basically thinking that the way to succeed is to burn out you just Power through you don't really honor your body or your mind. I mean look at the cultural symbols and language we use, you know, you snooze you lose. I'll sleep when I'm dead. I mean I had dinner with a guy recently who bragged that he had only gotten four hours sleep and I thought to myself I didn't say it, but I thought to myself, you know, what if you had gotten five this dinner would have been a lot more interesting also it was it a date. No, The dinner with a guy who brags because so many people brag about how little sleep they get believe he was telling you that out of anybody now because people are so unconscious. Right? Right. They want to be like, I don't need fine. I don't need sleep. So how many hours of sleep are you getting now? So hey, okay, I get aid but I want to explain that basically the vast majority of people need between seven and nine hours like you maybe a seven-hour girl and a dog girl or a nine ogre or you may be in the one and a half percent of the global population that has a genetic mutation and then you generally don't need seven to nine hours how much sleep to those people you may need for hours and we feel great. I am an eight-hour girl made to thriving so and how do you feel when you get a doubt? I feel great I wake up on my own. It's either the Sun that wakes me up. I wake up before my alarm clock. It's the best. I like to be in bed by 10 p.m. That's when I feel like I'm in my best and what you said is so important going to sleep before midnight. Oh, yes key because the way your whole body works through the night. So what was the first moment? So you've now you've Fallen you went to the doctor you realized that this is stress or what we now have burned as that becomes better now and so In This Moment here you are and you're You're incredibly successful. You have Huffington Post. But what was the change that you said to yourself? I'm not this isn't success. This isn't what I want. You know, I've always had a spiritual dimension in my life and I've been very blessed to have had a mother who would always say to me. Don't miss the moment. She had a lot of little sayings the Angels fly because they take themselves lightly. She was full of really sayings so I knew that there was another To live life who are also realized through studying all this science is that that would also make me more productive and more creative that there is no trade-off. That's the most important thing to realize there's not trade-off between taking care of ourselves and being amazing at work and accomplishing things. In fact, the more we give ourselves the chance to recharge the better. We're going to be at everything we're doing because look at at what people say that they have their best ideas in the shower, right? Why because there are suddenly disconnected from their phones and social media and getting stuff done and the mind can actually receive the best ideas. That's interesting. We just had Meghan Trainor on and she has a new album or a new song. I was called genetics and she said she wrote it in the shower. She was singing a shower. I love that all the whole song just came out there. She was and you make a great point. Successes putting everything else down and just focusing on the present and connecting with yourself which leads to in my book Thrive. I call it the third metric of success which we have right here because you brought it from me. Thank you. I'm so excited to read this. So it starts with me collapsing but you know, there's a happy ending now, so don't worry well because you're here today at the whole point of the book is that right now in our culture, we think of only two metrics of success money and Stadler / power but this is like sitting on a two-legged stool sooner or later you fall off unless you actually build that third leg which for me is well-being and health wisdom. You know, how do we connect with our best ideas our sense of peace and strength that we all have in US wonder, you know, forget wondered. How amazing life is you're going to have a baby. I mean, this is so full of wonder hmm and giving you know giving is also Another part of a full life, you know, it's interesting because I think that a lot of us try to give back in some way we try to take care of ourselves and like, you know, we'll go to a crazy workout class or whatever, but when it comes to wisdom and wonder those are two new pillars for me that I have to take a step back and say, you know, what are those really mean? And what are what are things that you do in your life that contribute to wisdom and wonder well, what is great about you? Among many other things is that you do have a spiritual connection. Yes, and you pray and you saying and that is a great opportunity to connect us with something bigger than ourselves. And for me wisdom comes from the recognition that we are all part of a big Universal story right that we are not here like by accident that there is a blueprint to our lives. We all have a certain Destiny or leaving out. When we sense that it makes us much more accepting of the obstacles and the challenges and the bad things that happened because no life even the Most Blessed doesn't have that and it makes us trust the universe. It must be very hard to feel that we are living in an indifferent arbitrary Universe. I do feel more trusting of God when I spend time in prayer. Yes and meditation and I mean, I remember when Oprah started bringing in In all of this meditation and spirituality into her show, but what happened to you when you started talking like this at the office or whatever. Well, the funniest thing is that I didn't just stop talking about it. I started bringing all this coverage in to the Huffington Post. Oh, so in 2007, like literally months after I had collapsed I created a dedicated section at The Huffington Post on sleep. And I remember my board complaining about it because they're Was quite as a serious political publication creating a section on something as trivial and irrelevant asleep and that shows the difference, you know, the last Dozen Years because sleep now is covered in the Wall Street Journal the impact on leadership and in the Harvard Business review the impact on business productivity. So this has been like a game-changing 12 years. So it's taken 12 years for people to really kind of jump on board. He's and also You know look at athletes also, they have helped mmm because they I mean Andre Iguodala and Kevin Durant and investors in my new company and they have done a lot to show that recovery is part of a farmer's it is it is train like an athlete sleep like an athlete exactly. You know, if you have game day. Are you going to stay up all night partying know there's also a phone call that you made to Sheryl Sandberg and she had told you something really interesting. Which was by 2016, you know that was like 11 years being and running The Huffington Post. I just realized I wanted to basically help people lead their lives with less stress and burnout and I wanted to do it a hundred percent. Now this was that you made the phone call to Cheryl and I know we're ready to leave Huffington. Yeah, I was ready but fearful and doubting it, you know, because there I was, you know, I had built this big global. Enos I had hundreds of employees around the world but my heart was telling me that I'm done here that this is great. It's fantastic. I would spend the rest of my life running it but I would only make some incremental difference and my mission now had changed and my mission was to help the world not go through so much unnecessary pain around how we live our lives and you You look at the casualties proliferating you look at suicides and depression and the rise of diabetes and heart disease and they're all connected to stress and burnout actually 75% of healthcare problems and health care costs. And if you add mental health 90% are stress and lifestyle related as wild. So that's what I wanted to do. But I was also not sure that I was ready. So I called Sheryl Sandberg and I said, you know, I'm kind of a agonizing over it and she said to me this is not a cost-benefit analysis. This is not like a list of pros and the list of cons. She said close your eyes listen to your heart and jump. And you did it and I did it and I've never for one second looked back. Did you feel like you succeeded immediately? Did it feel like you were throwing yourself into the lions den? Well, I definitely felt absolutely right from the minute. I did it and announced it but it's like building a new company. It's like beginning with raising money hiring employees. Well, you know just everything that that goes into building a company. I'll question. It was much easier the second time because I had already had a successful exit right? So just much easier to raise money and it is much easier to have people join. And also I think we tapped into a moment in our times when people began to feel that something had to change when self-care and recharging we're beginning to be seen as essential for performance and the fulfilling life. And now there's companies that have like nap rooms or quiet rooms. It's incredible how we have a great nap time. We have employees who are new mothers and you know who the best intentions after you come back to work. Your baby may have had a bad night and you didn't sleep well, so you have a nap room for them. We're havin a broom for them and less special the other thing about new mothers. It's very important not just to have a place for them to pump but who have a dedicated fridge? You may think it's a tiny thing but breast milk is so precious and I've heard from so many women who say I don't want to put it in the general kitchen fridge next to the salsa. That's my babies male. Yeah. I want a dedicated fridge. So we try to look at what are the little things that affect women's experience at work. Wow. I didn't even know that that was the thing. I didn't think about salsa and breast milk next to each other. Now I'm just like processing breast milk in the fridge one. Yeah, but I'm also thinking about how I went to bed at probably 2:30 3 o'clock last night because I was a late night. I had a concert and then I just couldn't fall asleep. And you know sleep has been different being pregnant. Yes. Let's talk about that. It's interesting because people usually can change only one thing about themselves at a time. And I know that your answer if I ask you what's that one thing that they should change is probably going to be sleep. Well, here's Think whatever you decide to change whether it's sleep or exercise or nutrition. It doesn't matter every person needs to make their own decision. But you need to start with micro steps my God Thrive, we the work we do with companies on our media platform the product we've built the behavior change product is all based on micro steps. We need to stop making New Year's resolutions. I believe that it's a disaster, isn't it? Basically by the middle of January or the third week in January most people have abandoned them. And what is worse they feel bad about it. Yeah, the negative press in February. They feel they have failed. So we believe in what we call Micro steps too small to fail interest like so small. So tiny that you cannot fail like, let me give you an example how you start your day is as Pardon us how you end your day. So people can say oh you need to start your day with 30 minutes meditation. That's hard. He's always say you need to start your day. If you choose to, you know, make that your journey by taking one minute 60 seconds to set your intention for the day to breathe consciously or to remember what you're grateful for. Hmm, whatever you want to do, but take 60 seconds and do that before you go to your phone and that's 60 seconds will turn into five will turn into tears Runnin but you start with 60 seconds which changes the quality of the beginning of your day because just think of it 75% of people sleep with her phone's by their bed. And the first thing they do before they're fully conscious before they've gotten out of bed is get their phone and start looking at texts and emails and you don't know what you're going to read. I am so guilty and it will sometimes change the mood of my dad exactly because suddenly you may have read some that you don't like and you are not yet ready to deal with it you are in that little bit of that in between State and so what happens is that your body is flooded with a cortisol stress hormone before you've even fully woken up. So just by taking that one minute, which is not bad. If you don't have one minute you don't have a life. Let's face it. That's true. And I've night, you know, when you said that last night you went to bed late went to bed late and you couldn't sleep kiss. What is so important creating your own transition to sleep. Mmm. That's another thing we tend to do we tend to be on our phone until the very last moment. And then we put our phone by our bed would turn off the light and we may fall asleep because our bodies are exhausted, but we haven't given our brains there. Eternity to turn off the darn off and power down. But also what I recommend is a little ritual that you create depending on what you want, but I cannot tell you mine, please. I want to know so my ritual starts 30 minutes, but start with five, you know, right my now takes 30, but don't think that yours has to take 30 it starts with my declaring the end of my working day. That's kind of really important. Don't because the truth is there is no end to our working day now because we're Hustlers we're Hustlers. And also we have interesting jobs that we love so it's not like we can say Hey, you know, I have now done absolutely everything. I could have done that you can never say that ever never. So you declare an end to your working day and you mark that end by a ritual the ritual is sacrificing a lamb. No. No, I'm like, where's the lamb? Where is Bring in the lamb now. They're each one is turning off your phone and gently escorting it out of your bedroom. Now, are you doing literally turn it off completely. No airplane mode know like do not disturb. You don't have to turn it off. Okay, because I was getting a little anxious that doesn't matter. You can simply put it on airplane mode or simply turn off because it's gonna be another room. It doesn't matter, you know, whatever you want. You know, this is not like some Doctrine, you know, you must you and my swag this way exactly. I'll send you then started just you're going to create your own region. Okay. So the phone goes to bat goes to bed your Docket in very important. And then I'll go and have a hot bath with AB some salts a little candle flickering nearby and I have all my makeup removers laid out by my bathtub. So that while I'm in the bath and my brain is beginning to slow down decompress. I did compress. I also do something useful because I can feel you're like me you want to be productive like, okay. Yes. What can I be doing right now? We're doing right now and you can be taking your makeup off. Yes. It's what you think it is. Very important. I just didn't care. I do. I have a sleepover with your makeup on never doesn't matter how many bottles I've had or how sexually excited you are gawking have sex, but then get up and take your makeup off advice for everybody goes don't forget that you hear that have sex and then take your makeup off then I love beautiful. Lingerie beautiful. Lingerie. I do but my husband isn't into I'm a lingerie designer. I have my own life. Oh my God. I'm going to check it out. We need to get you some I'm like a major lingerie collector. My husband doesn't care about lingerie, but it doesn't but it's not for him. It's for you. But for me, I just prefer to be naked sometimes. Okay, I'll leave you like to sleep naked that start earlier and you sleep in your nice lingerie. I sleep in my silk. Lingerie. Wait. Okay, do you have Like an it or a bra night? Okay 90 I sleep and that's what I mean by lingerie. Okay night. If you don't sleep naked wear something that's dedicated for sleep. Even if it's a t-shirt. This is your sleep t-shirt not you're going to the gym t-shirt and on my nightstand is a pile of books that have absolutely nothing to do with work politics or anything. They're like novels poetry spirituality and I like And my day by reading something that's disconnected from my work and I finish my day by writing down three things. I'm grateful for all that's beautiful. That's beautiful and then you roll over and then I roll over and I fall asleep and my mind has slowed down. I'm not thinking about work and I remember the blessings in my life, but, you know start with a tiny part of that. You may want to start with just remembering three things. You're grateful. Wolf all while having a 3-minute shower bath. It doesn't matter and then you can keep adding to it. I'm totally doing it to the night micro steps. I love that. So Thrive what Thrive does is your company that goes into other companies right that helps them figure out how to be more health-conscious. Exactly and also prove to them that they are also going to be more productive got it that when they take better care of their employees the performers of the employees. Increases attrition is reduced healthcare costs are reduced. And so they don't have to be nice employers that just have to be smart and look at the bottom line results, but we also have a media platform and would love to invite everybody to tell their stories because we all learn from each other. Yeah, we do. It's about Community. It's about community. So we've built this great community on the media platform, which is really like the Huffington Post without politics. So It doesn't matter where you are the political Spectrum. We want you to come and contribute to this conversation and learn from each other. What are you saying to the companies that aren't doing these things that aren't implementing health or Thrive and to their companies. Well what's happening now, actually so interesting that especially in the last few months companies have had so many incidents of suicides depression and anxiety throughout the company. That you don't really need to convince them anymore. Mmm. Then now something has to be done. So we launched for example as well as doing workshops who have digital programs that are easier to scale across the world because we are a global company and we just launched one called thriving mind in partnership with Stanford that helps people identify what stresses them and deal with it before it becomes depression. And anxiety. I want to have people who are depressed and anxious, but I also also want to prevent people from becoming depressed and anxious had it before they get dressed. And and what we do is we ask people to identify what biotype they are. Now, we are at different biotypes. Let me give you just two one of them is rumination. The other is negative bias. I mean, I'm a ruminator I'm working on it but a lot of women are illuminators, which means we have that voice in our head that replays everything and judges us like before I started working on my Self intensely. I would have finished our podcast. Then I would have gotten in my car and my mind would have said it Illuminating or you know, what you said to Ashley about that just really didn't work at all. And then you know, you forgot to say that that was the most important thing and you forgot it. So my mind would go like a spiral with spiral and so why doing the podcast is fun and great and I live overseas then my mind who just At me and so people end up depleted not because of what they are doing, but what's happening in our minds, but once you recognize that about yourself you begin to create a distance between these thoughts and yourself, that's interesting. Is that in thrived you talk about? Yes, and we teach people that it's not difficult either. The first thing is to be conscious of it. We can learn from our mistakes, but that's different than beating ourselves up about Mistakes, that's so true. I feel like I'm learning so much now I can't wait to start reading that chakra, but let me tell you another type is negative bias. Like every life is a mixture right of good and bad but there are people were only focusing on the back and if you keep focusing on the bat you are going to become depressed. This is true. These are just too tight on it. So it's like fixing that thing that you know, that's bad about yourself or acknowledging it and acknowledging it and This is like therapy. It is like that everybody we want to scale it because not everybody has a therapist know not everybody does and not everybody has the time or the money. Yes. So we want to make it easy again micro steps. I grow stuffs are my writing the word micro step down the good work. I think it was it immediately takes the pressure off it does because I had tonight I imagined myself putting my phone and my bed talking it in and going to sleep and and having a beautiful night's rest. Yes. Now I usual eyes you having a beautiful. So I want to talk about you know, here we are were too successful women and we can create rituals in our lives and we know that when we go and we put our phone away and we can go and you know have a bath or I would like to go and just write in my journal. Those are things that that we've created time for. But the younger generation who's hustling who's going who's trying to get to a certain level to feel successful who don't feel like they can make that time for themselves. You know, what what Is your advice to them happy you asked that question because that is the key what they need to understand is that they're going to be more successful if they learn to put their own oxygen mask on first that is like the key. You know how we talked about micro steps. The other thing we need to talk about is changing your mindset changing false beliefs, which were largely created by man. Hmm, you know their work the world of work has been designed by man, and we are now beginning to change it. So the mindset shift has to be recognizing that there is no contradiction. There is no trade-off when I take care of myself. I'm a much better business woman. I come up with better decisions. Just imagine or remember any time you've been exhausted. I let me tell you about myself when I'm exhausted and It still happens sometimes because we now have a delayed flight something. I'm suffering from jet like something happens. Let me tell you I'm a work in progress. There is nothing I'm doing perfectly so when I'm exhausted and depleted, I am the worst version of myself. I really kind of don't like myself. I am less creative. I'm more reactive. I am more likely to lose my temper. I'm less empathetic. I'm basically not found to be around and that's not good for your career. Not in any way so young people listening who feel like they don't have that time and the day make it because on the contrary. You don't have the luxury not to make that time for yourself. You make a good point. I wish I would have known that in mind. I wish I would have known that in my 20s period you know, you are a masterful networker. You've created to incredible companies. You've met so many different types of people The Good the Bad and the Ugly but but what what is it? About you that like has kept you from becoming jaded and and falling into that lifestyle. I think I love people. I love learning from people. I'm endlessly curious, but I also love being by myself. I need time by myself. I need time to just read and think and and just be recharged and recharge. So I think this combination and learning that ebb and flow has been really great because when My show up somewhere when I shop at work. I want to be fully engaged, you know, actually, I spent many many years just basically going through my to-do list and getting stuff done and that's not long enough for me. I don't want just to be effective. I want to be. Joyful. Hmm, and I feel it's such a blessing to be doing what I love to be healthy, you know do have my family and people I love around me. All these things are incredible blessings and I don't want to take anything for granted and I don't want just to check the boxes to not just be effective. But to be joyful. I think that is a motto for life. I love that and for me, that's not a barometer. If I'm not joyful. It means I'm off course and you know, nobody's on cars all the time. I'm not on cars all the time, but I have now learned how to course-correct MMM and incidentally stress in itself is not the problem. The problem is Becoming cumulative. Mmm. So by the time you go home, you are like so wound up you're so right. You need to come down. But let me tell you some good news why I'm so optimistic that this is going to work serious science science tells us that it takes between 60 and 90 seconds to course-correct from stress. That's it. Yes, he takes between 60 and 90 seconds for the stress to get through your whole body and your mind. The rest is just what the mind is. Is doing oh, that's so interesting. So we have created, you know, this Behavior change product a feature called reset. Okay. So let's say you had some bad news or something happens and you are stressed and you can you know, how you can view this dress, right? You have already sent us the assets that bring you Joy whatever again very individual when your baby is born. I'm sure it's going to be pictures of your baby, but it could be a picture of you and your That may not be a picture you put on Instagram or that's beautiful, but it means something to you. It's just all about what means something to you then a picture of a landscape maybe some of you were that triggered that join you then a song you love right now piece of poetry a quad. We take all these assets who Hannah made them and put them all together. We add a breathing Pacer to remind you to breathe consciously when you're feeling stressed you play 60 seconds. Oh, I can't wait for that. It can totally Help you cause correct and then you share your guides if you want with people you love. I mean you'd like to see what does your husband put on your side of your best friends done. And so it reminds us all that. We have an opportunity at any moment to choose peace. Joy and strength at any moment. That's beautiful. Wow. I'm just taking in so much. I can't wait to dive into the book. Also. There's a quote that you gave when Over at your house for the breed of baby event and you had said mother for motherhood because I know that you really enjoy being a mom and I really love that about your Powerhouse. You're just so successful and then yet you're the thriving mother and something that you had said was it's like they take the baby out and put the guilt back in and at the time I couldn't tell you I was pregnant, but I was taking so many mental illnesses so many and I want to know if you can just expand. Don that because I'm walking into motherhood and I keep thinking about this guilt this mom guilt that everybody keeps talking about and I don't want that to be an extra pressure added in my life. So here's what I learned that working moms carry that guilt unnecessarily through our lives and we need to kind of remind ourselves that working doesn't make us less of a good mom because anything that fulfills us makes us a better Mom. We need to remind And us of that and for me, it's like when I realized that it changed so much about my relationship with my children and you figure out how you want to navigate that relationship. But let's throw away the guilt it's so unnecessary and so depleting so let's all forgive ourselves. We as the Bessie I haven't even had this kid yet and you're already guilty party thinking about the guilt that I'm going to have. It's just it's wild it's wild and I don't want and so I'm taking advice. Is from mothers everywhere on how to prevent it when we give advice? We also remind ourselves. Mmm-hmm. This is the biggest thing that I've learned to see ya talking about your own story things that you've gone through and I think that's why Thrive is been thriving. What's one of the biggest lessons that you learn from your mother. So the biggest lesson actually was around failure. My mother used to say failure is not the opposite of success. It's a stepping stone to success. Hmm, and she Just made I mean I grew up in a one-bedroom apartment who had no money and my mother always made us feel bigger than our circumstances not limited by our circumstances. I was like coming back from school in Athens Greece where I was brought up and I saw a picture of Cambridge University in a magazine and I got home and told my mom I want to go there and everybody else has said that to said don't be ridiculous. You know, you don't speak. Jewish we have no money and it's hard for English girls to get into Cambridge. My mother said, let's see how you can go there and at the same time she didn't make me feel that if I didn't go there my life was over so it became this adventure where we I learned English and I applied for a scholarship and bottom line. I got into Cambridge but it wasn't like this is the be-all end-all be-all. Yes. I know you're saying this. The end all be all exactly. And so that's the biggest lesson she gave me. That's beautiful. That's beautiful. And I'm sure you implemented that in raising your daughters. Yes. I also made my and and the book I wrote and becoming Fearless was also to help them take risks and choose to do something even while they were afraid I say in the book that fearlessness is like a muscle. Hmm. The more you exercise it the stronger it gets wow, that's amazing. Fearlessness is like a muscle Ariana. What are you studying right now? Because you're you're a master student. I have a student. Yeah a lifelong student. What are you studying right now? So here's what I'm studying right now. One of the hardest things has been helping people change Behavior. Mmm. That's my mission right now. That's what I'm studying. How can we help people go from awareness to action and what I'm hearing from a lot of the scientists I'm learning from Is that we need not just to give people micro steps and niger's but we'll also touch their hearts. Mmm, and that's what I mentioned wisdom and spiritual Traditions come in. We want to help people understand that there is something deeper in ourselves and that it's our Birthright to connect with that. So that's what you're studying right now and how to do it how to because I always like to study in a way that I can then give back to people. Yes, that's great. So, what are you doing now? Now with Thrive what's next for Thrive? So we're working with P&G to bring our platform to Consumers because here's another irony. One of the fastest way to change habits is to add them to existing habit. So let's say you're brushing your teeth morning and night while you are brushing your teeth. Remember three things you are grateful for. Oh, you know, like let me give you another example you have I read somewhere that you have affirmations that you use exactly you. Wash your hair while you are washing your hair do your affirmation. That's great. And it's also a great use of time. It's a great use of time. You're not adding time. What do most people do when they wash their hair? They worry they worry they overthink things over think that you're right. I mean a Dye process you process instead, you know, just use that time to leave the shower feeling empowered. I'm Gonna Leave the shower feeling empowered exactly. Okay, leave that shower feel Thank you so much for being here today. So my feel like I could talk to you for another half an hour of the best eyes. You're so present. Well, so are you really listening? Thank you so much. I'm listening because this is something that's important to me. I think that burnout cultures real a lot of people my age. I'm 31, and I think that there's a lot of hustle and go go go and and there really is something to the third metrics that you that you talked about and I think It's important to implement into your life. Thank you so much. Thank you loved it. Yeah, me too. So we do one thing at the end of every pretty big deal and it's kind of a lightning round. Yes, and I just need you to fill in the blank, right? Okay. So first is I pretty much always say yes to cheese. I love it. What's the biggest lesson you've learned this year and the biggest lesson I learned is not to be so anxious. Us when my daughter's did not immediately respond to a text. Haha. I'm gonna take that note as well for myself and my new baby. Okay. Well, we're gonna be wild solar texting. What's the biggest deal you've ever made the biggest DL was having the carriage to leave half post and start Thrive. That's a pretty big deal, and we know that you're a pretty big deal. But what's a pretty big deal to you a pretty big deal to me? It is to help people realize that we have that place of strength peace and wisdom in us. It is our Birthright and we can reach it anytime. We choose beautiful, Arianna Huffington. Thank you so much. You can't wait to welcome baby. These are. All right guys. Thank you so much for joining pretty big deal today. We want to hear from you on. 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Ashley Graham sits down with the incredible Arianna Huffington! You may know her name from The Huffington Post — the incredibly successful media platform she founded in 2005. Its unique style and reporting went on to win a Pulitzer prize. In addition, Arianna found great success as a political commentator and author of over 15 books. In 2016, Arianna left The Huffington Post in order to pursue a new passion — wellness. Her company Thrive Global aims to tackle burnout culture across the world — something Arianna knows about first hand. HOST: Ashley Graham GUEST: Arianna Huffington EXECUTIVE PRODUCERS: Ashley Graham, Penni Thow, Scooter Braun EXECUTIVE PRODUCERS: Michael D. Ratner, Scott Ratner, Miranda Sherman PRODUCED BY Pretty Big Deal Productions, OBB Picture & OBB Sound CO-EXECUTIVE PRODUCERS: Kelsey McWilliams, Ava Coleman DIRECTED BY: Kaliya Warren WRITER: Ava Coleman LINE PRODUCER: Jess Vogel ASSOCIATE PRODUCER: Ilyssa Walker RESEARCHER: Shahnaz Mahmud EDITORS: Crystal Arnette, Lucy Tatiana Morales MAIN TITLE THEME BY: Johannes Raassina, Lefteris Ioannou POST PRODUCTION SUPERVISOR: Jess Vogel SOUND MIXER: James Sparber TITLE THEME PRODUCER: Johannes Raassina KEY PRODUCTION ASSISTANT: Julissa Ramirez PRODUCTION SOUND: Kit Jirles ADDITIONAL SOUND RECORDIST: Deanne Williams ART DIRECTOR: Laura Miller PRODUCTION ASSISTANT: Catrina Kokkoris DATA MANAGEMENT: Melissa Bueno-Werner PRODUCTION ASSISTANTS: Masha Zhak, Adam Duplechain, Nick Kaufmann, Christian Guinanzaca, Guy Mueller ADDITIONAL PRODUCTION SUPPORT: Raquel Dominguez, Jennifer Spottz SPECIAL THANKS: Mina White, IMG Models, Argon Props. Adorama Rental Company, YouTube Studios, YouTube Space NY 