Where we blow your mind, I'm flesh is burning burning all the time Church alert alert alert.And I have to give you sound the alarm just sound the alarm. It's a serious note on this one Shanaya. It is. Hello everyone. I'm Ian with no no try to meet with you. There we go. Hello. Dr. Robin Casas. Hi, Shanaya. Hello Pastor Tony kisses and hello Pastor Nathan guesses. A guy like mrs. Doubtfire. Yeah, you too this Deliverance for me. Yes, there is sign me up. You are listening to this official episode of we're getting more in harmony as it comes and Pastor. I'm just enjoying her little ad-libs that there you go. I'm gonna T-shirt with snack. If you are just now joining this my name is nannies and I just hope this thing along with the crew the trio of talk New York, which our church is located in the hot of Times Square the hot you can always visit our website and torque NYC that org and figure out where we are any who cuz we don't have time we need to jump in this thing. Last week we had a great testimony from a rabbi, which was amazing. It was so many gems. He's dropping gems didn't even know it he was he was so we just want to just thank him for coming on and you know just sharing his troops about how he discovered tort or came to torquing discovered torque. Someone's someone said and now testimony time tonight. I don't know that they understood exactly what they were saying, but they were like, he was a Jew but now he's a Wow, so I just kind of you know, I stepped in just to remedy the situation. I'm like no no now, he's a do tile. Yeah, it's a du Tau yes, give him that. Anyhow, yes, and then we also was talking about God venting which I hope you guys have you listed last episode of you have not is available on Spotify. But if you listen to the last episode about God venting, hopefully you ask the Lord. What do you want to speak about or speak? Hmm? All right. I'm listening. I think that Need to talk about God invented. She was ready. Yeah, he wanted to do what do you want? What do you think? That's right. What is God venting about this season the condition of the chilling. Wow, I'm awake. I think that's what he wants to talk about because you know, this one one sin that will never be forgiven. Oh and that's the same. Sin against the Holy Spirit. No, I'm telling you. The church is moving into areas that are very touchy. Wow, because they are moving the Holy Spirit out of his position in the godhead and putting a piece of paper for a survey in his place. That was a big statement. Just there like you said that tonight in the message passed the Robin and it hit me very very very strongly. The holy spirit is a part of the godhead a true, but the way that we treat him in the church today, we treat him like a feeling up. He's an experienced and he's a power and he's a force but he's not a person the yellows they all the spirits or me on the spirit. Just did this and spirit. I was you that voice because that's how it sounds to Jesus, you know, I mean, but he's actually Of the godhead and went wow. It just hit me. It's even hitting me as you say it again now. Yeah, well, we're not we're not we're not putting him in that place that he deserves. No and God put him in that place. God put him in that place. He is the spirit of Jesus and if they don't if people don't see that and treat him like a personality something that has its own place. In the godhead, then you will replace him with a piece of paper Church. She's coming. She's coming right off the press that the printer but let me finish in this when you hit that buzzer, but I'm tired - You're Gonna Keep talking about stuff going to say that he has personality. He doesn't have to be a 5 at 10:00 a 3 a 4 a 2 a 1. Can you count? Don't he doesn't have to be any of those things. Yeah, he's part of the godhead, which is three and one hmm first Jam of the night first gym in the night, but we're gonna gonna break because we're going to explain what's gotten past Robin. So rattled about aiming these papers. We going to explain these papers when we come back from break. Hi, everybody passed an 8 here and boy are we excited to invite you to a new event that we have happening on Sundays at 3:00 to 4:00 p.m. The new Bible study that starting at talk called connecting the dots. This is going to be a great way for you to come connect the dots of your faith reintroduce yourself to the Bible or introduce yourself to the Bible like never before Pastor. Tony will be leading this class. You don't have to come to every class you can drop in. It will be recorded and available later on on talk TV. So we're excited to take this journey and for you to come on this journey with us. We'll see you there Sunday at 3 p.m. One two three four to walk through that spiritual door five six, seven eight. Let me get this straight. Oh my God, should we have done it again? I'll discovered. I've got a reputation to Pastor Tony. Come on. Let's give you a hand. He was helping me get that made up. One two, three four don't walk through that spiritual door, five, six. Seven eight. Let me get your personality straight speaking of personalities on a more serious note. We've been noticing this trend that's been entering the church very subtly and it's called Enneagram. Which is basically a personality test to try to find your place in church, but we're going to say this is an insult to Holy Spirit. I need to come here, isn't it? And it weary. Why isn't it? We're gonna we're gonna give the background of what it is for those listeners who don't know what any of grammy is. We don't want you just researching and finding his all the things we want to bring it to you home now. So passionate if you don't mind just about to given us the background and then Then Pastor Robin we promise we're gonna tag you man and you're gonna come in head-on on this thing. Okay, she's saying she gonna do it. So she wants to go first go for it. Then you can give the explanation of the stupidity of it. I would love to excited. I actually just want to say why are we replacing the holy spirit's work with a piece of paper and a pen computer and anything else that makes Not have to have a relationship with the Holy Spirit. That's what it really is church. You don't want a relationship with the Holy Spirit have your relationship with your pencil and your paper and your computer but you got to know he's a person of the third part of the godhead and if you want to see Power and presence of God, you better work with him now hit that. One. Wow well, then since you told that part off that was great. You come in fascinating just give us some bullet points. So what it actually is so people can understand if listeners that might be like, what is this any random talking about it's being used subtly in the church today Shanaya. It's being used in the world. And it's funny how we are using methods in the world that you know not founded in scripture not founded in the spirit of God, you know. And it's crept into the church through psychology and you'll notice that the church is on this whole journey of ink because there's such a big awareness these days with mental health. Yeah mental health is a huge thing in the world and in the church people are beginning to see that mental health is just as important as physical health spiritual health. And so mind you I want to add that all these Ministries that do this don't teach about demons, but that's another port. Yeah, because they believe it's them anyway, as you would say Enneagram in comes from a teaching a set of teachings from certain philosophies and philosophers who have studied different spiritual Concepts. It's based on nine points. So each point of the nine is the personality type. So just bringing up my notes here, you know one is And it's so ridiculous. But one is the reformer to is the help with three is the achiever. I don't want to go through all of them nine is The Peacemaker and then they have these things called Wings where you can have a mix of both and what it's doing is it's really sub categorizing people into these prototypes. I just want to point out to our listeners that might be doing this and think it's no problem. Look do your research the founders of the Enneagram were Yogi's they were monks and It was brought in through a Chilean psychologist who brought it over to America in the 1970s, and then it was incorporated with Jesuit priests who applied it to Christianity and Christian methods for counseling so it's not founded in scripture. It's not founded in the word of God yet. It's very very alien to the word of God and if I could just challenge our listeners, why would you use something that Hindus new age? Leavers atheists and Buddhist and all faiths are using this is what's scary about this thing all faiths use this test on the process of self-discovery and there's a book They're called the way back to you. Now, if that title doesn't scare you I don't know what will I don't either but which we kind of brought that out why that was important for the people who might not even understand the dangers of Being a Christian in participating in yoga and meditation we brought that out in our season casting which you can find on YouTube as well and there are torque in NYC branch on YouTube. If you just search that this part of season casting we really talked about why that is so dangerous for us because it brings in a false Holy Spirit. Yep, and we don't definitely want to replace the holy spirit's voice with trying to figure out who we are and identity and there's a lot of there's a lot of conjecture he back and forth. An argument this people that a Christian writers that write that the any Graham can be used by God and right, you know that we're not to like, you know, toss it out because who are we to like, you know say that God can't use anything my argument with that. Is this anything that I'm going to quote you from? It's actually the book is called the road back to you. Not the way back to you the road back to you and here's a quote from the book. So I just want to like let this land with people right it says he Let me bring up the quote. It says he every chapter 10 of this book talks about a combination of forgiving myself finding my true self becoming spiritually evolved being healed from wounded messages dealing with codependent behaviors and pursuing personal homeless. Now, that's fine. You know, we understand that God is it see it's like the angel of Light. It's coming in the language of what God actually wants to do with us. God wants us to pursue wholeness not by ourselves, but by him I'm saying Um, these people that have gone through the any Graham system and have come into a self-enlightenment come they say they come face-to-face with their true self. They actually come face-to-face with themselves and they end up having more face-to-face moments with themselves than face-to-face moments with Jesus, you know, take that scripture in 23rd psalm in it. Let's change it around I mean I mean we're gonna do this. Let's do it all the way and so we say, you know, the Lord is my shepherd and then we go into that verse that now what are we saying? I restore my soul. I restored no no listeners. It's not that at all. It's he restores my soul. You can't restore your soul. And so we need to get this right tonight. We really do this is playing with new ways. It is evil spirit and I'm telling you as a leader and as a pastor and prophetically I'm telling you. This is a time of doctrines of demons not so juicing doctrines of demons and the doctrines of demons. That demons are seducing the leadership. We all need to wake up and wake up quickly. We think we can analyze the Holy Spirit the Holy Spirit to go. Only thing that can't be predicted. So how could you put what he says you are on a piece of paper some sort of a survey. This is so disgraceful. Yep. It needs so disrespectful to the power of the Holy Spirit the third person of the godhead deserves better than this. Yeah in the book the road back to you Ian Morgan. On and Susan stable. These are the two authors that are trying to advocate for Christian to use this they actually say the true purpose of the anagram is to reveal to you your Shadow side and offer spiritual Counsel on how to open it to transformative light. Oh my goodness. That sounds so Transcendental Meditation. It's nonsense and then just to give you an example of how unscriptural e base this is they say in the anteroom if you're at A to then you're wired for struggle, but you are worthy of love and belonging. Where is threes need to hear that? You are just loved for who you are. I'm sorry. Nowhere in the Bible. Does it sell with I'm wired for Struggle No Weir's one verse that combats that verse and it's in Jeremiah where the Lord says before you were formed in your mother's womb. I knew you I called you. I said to us apart as a prophet to the nation's didn't say there is Why'd you for struggle didn't say you're a type. He basically said that before environment before anything in life affected your choices. I set you apart and called you and put you on a path of Destiny Pastor Donny. You want to chime in there. That's just insulting the Holy Spirit these these leaders instead of seeking the Lord for a person's call and placement in the body of Christ. They're letting people's self assess through these. He's these any you grams. And you know, I was speaking at the church tonight and you know in the message that an Enneagram would not have placed Paul. I minister to Gentiles and Enneagram would have really put Paul because of his Hebrew background. He would be more suited to minister to Jews. But the Holy Spirit chose to make his you know, he's Niche Gentiles and the Lord used Peter who did not have Good background with the you know, the traditions of the elders and and the Torah and the talmud like Paul. Did he gave that to Peter he gave the ministry of Jews to Peter the ministry of Gentiles to Paul. We would have picked the Opposites. So we can't you know, God whatever God has called you to do once you find it he equips you to do it and you could be the least person. I right you could be the least. Person qualified it's Jesus who qualifies I think this is just laziness past shit. Niggas Indianapolis should seek the Lord for where people's gifts and placements are well, I think that that's coming to the place where they're doing away with Shepherds. You see we had the five fold Ministry and if you're going to give the enemy a good punch, you know, you got to you got to clench your fist with five fingers together. Either and you've got to have that fivefold King hit you can't poke his eyes out. You gotta hit him with all five fold Ministry so that even the little finger that can clean your ear out. It's got to be a teacher and the Evangelist which is I'm in the ring finger, which is the pastor in the Evangelist, which is the Reach Out finger and the pot and the prophet who points and the apostle that can touch off other for Ministries. They have to be operating in the church to have Jesus operating fully in the church, you know, white pasta because he was all five. We can't bill five Hallelujah can only be one or two, but we can't be all fine. And so here's the key. Here's the key for you to of those Ministries fight for our fur God to the people. Yeah, but three of them. Chad the grounding Ministries are the people to God Jesus. We're gonna take a short break and really unpacked this because this is something that was what out in the service and it was very important to understand the necessity of having a five fold Ministry and how it benefits us all and how we contribute to it and our place in it, you know, so I really want to unpack that and you know, just take a second. To just process all of this and we'll be right back. Hi, everybody passed innate here again, and I am thrilled to announce the official launch of Skype dipping 9. This means dipping night has gone International. That's right. Even if you're outside the New York City area you can now be blessed by the prophetic Ministry of this house. Look God is speaking to everyone and we want to give you the opportunity to hear what God is saying regardless of location. So go to our Facebook page look for the tab on the side that His prophetic appointments and sign up for your appointment now everyone should he what God is saying to them and have the chance to share that with the world? We're gonna go straight in we got a lot to talk about and I was hesitant see there. Yeah. I must say I just have a righteous hate for the fact that these people are really wanting to seek God right? You got a congregation really wanting to understand the Holy Spirit really want to grab hold to what the Lord offers. Is fullness in the enemy is just coming right on in and manipulating and using it against them. And that's the part where it just makes me have a righteous cringe. It's true against Satan as a righteous man is right and manipulating the innocence of people being having a pure heart and distorting the truth from them. It's like, you know, this is why the the the embodiment of like we were talking about before break of having a five fold Ministry, you know comes into Play because we're all you know covering each other listening to One Spirit. Not just a bunch of you know, yep different types of spirits. Needless to say, I think one of the most disappointing things that we experience in our dipping night and for those listeners who are just visiting and for the first time our dipping night is basically a prophetic Outreach where you know, we give people in the church or even non-believers an opportunity to hear what God speak through prophecy. But we fine I would say 90% of Believers that come to our Outreach the most common requests requests from the Lord is Lord. Please tell me what my call is what my gifting is 90% And and our our our sort of response to them asking that question is what has what have your pastors told you and they say they haven't told us. Anything it's very hard for them to even get time with their pastors. And this is sad because we are getting the reality at least in New York in the tri-state area. There are so many believers who haven't been touched by a Shepherd yet. They got no idea what their function and placement in the body of Christ is and they come to us as profits to find out and you know, we can't say well go back to your pastor and ask him because he doesn't know his Got no idea disclaimer on that. Some of them have been in the church 30 years 30 years 30 years and they have no idea what place they have in the church and they come and and it's to me we give them God's word and suddenly the veil. Let's mmm 30 years and they said 30 years. We've been waiting for God to speak. Yeah, well you haven't been waiting God's been speaking Yeah, but you haven't been hearing because you're not allowed to here and goes back to what you said, you know don't have a relationship with paper have a relationship with the Holy Spirit. But now we need to see okay, that's for the individual but Pastor need to have a relationship with their flock and so having a relationship with events and you know programs and you know, all these things forms. And formulas and actually let the Lord use you to touch the people, you know, I want to go back to one thing because people listening to this Villa. Okay, right? Okay any grams? Yeah the evil. What's well, what's the harm in self-assessing, you know the harm in self-assessing Shanaya and using a self assessment method whether it's the you know prior mig's whether it's the Enneagram whether it's a personality type tests that use take you to you know, magazine or a horoscope. Let me call that out because there's too many Christians out there using horoscopes. Well, Be hearing God the danger is when you self-assess, you won't count what God counts. Come on skim over what God won't skim over you look at something in you and say it's not worth counting. It's not worth being used but the scripture says that in your weakness his strength is perfect it and that's what you Qualify in your weakness not in your strength. I've heard Christians say got to get strong so so I can have each strength. Yep. Come on, you told him at two dots the strength you it's in your weakness that you qualify for his strength. You do not qualify for his strength with your strength. And so to go into scripture to back this up because I really had the Holy Spirit drop me drop this in me in our previous segment. So portal sup. Yeah, and it was good. So we're at the you know, the story of the two fish in the Five Loaves and Jesus looks at his disciples and they come up to him and they say Lord we've got no food. Now let's let's dissect that. They had 5,000 men following them and it was the custom of the day just to count the men. It was 15 pastors bringing out a revelation. There was actually 15,000 if you include women and children now, that's a pretty big crowd to have following you without any fear. Facebook Twitter Google, you know what I'm saying? Just saying McDonald. Yeah. I'm the corner there. So my point is this the first thing we see is that the disciples came to Jesus and they said we've got nothing. So first of all, they didn't see potential in what wasn't being counted the women and the children in are eyes weren't important enough to count because they said, you know, we got nothing. So what happens Jesus says, well, what do you have go and find it? You know, what do you have because God is not asking you to you know, stop looking at something in you he's saying what do you have that I can work with? So he goes to them and he says what do you have? So a little boy comes forward, you know, it says any I got I got two fish and Five Loaves. So the very person that they overlooked was the very thing that God caused to bring the miracle. Did you catch that what I'm saying the very person the very young boy that they overlooked because they self assess and was the very thing that God used to bring the miracle. So God is in what you don't count it. See people are not seeing the way the Lord does this? Yep, you see we To turn it around everybody puts it the way that they can work it you see and that's lazy just lazy if you want purity of heart then see God everyone in every situation, but we think I start counts by God if we see God will be pure in heart. No purity of heart comes as a result of seeing God in every figure. And every situation that little boy was used do you understand? He was discarded. He wasn't to be used be wasn't even counted. They get God counted him God counted him and he took what he had and fed 50,000 people as a beginning of what God can do. So, what does that mean? That means instead of just putting a cart and a horse together? And having the horse carried the car around maybe maybe the cart has to be put before the horse and the horse has to push the cart. Yep out of the way which brings us passed it to the point here. If you self-assess, you're only going to count on Merit and points the things that matter to you. According to the any Graham you take this personality type test and you do Define Yourself by things that pop up in your emotions. But again, I challenge our listeners seldom is God in the good parts of me. He's more in the things that are broken because the things that are broken need Jesus things that are broken need the Healer. He says I didn't come for the healthy. I came for the sick. That's right and Mark Mark the area Christian comedian. He says it this way. He says seldom is God. My plans all my formulas on my formations, but he's always in my interruptions. And so if we're self-assessing, I'll get a gem for that one. She's saying thank you. Dr. Road. I'm trying to give it to you guys about to make it because it's a Hot Topic if we're self-assessing then what discounting what God wants to use as a testimony. This is true. We're looking at things in us that we don't see worthy but the scripture says That he works all things for his good and that it's over by the blood of the lamb and the word of your testimony. We said in Breaking Free from guilt that God wants to bring purpose to the pain those things in you that you're not counting listener listeners. That's what God is going to use to bring glory for his name. Yes. I think the opposite is true too that I was going to say. We need to go the opposite end. The there are things that we esteem in our souls that God despises. New tonight about how you know, Jesse thought his seven sons that were you know, physically fit handsome. Well trained Warriors be a number 1 to 7, but it was you know, son number eight David who was in the eyes of his father and the brothers he would not qualify to be king. But Samuel comes along and the Lord says this is the one anoint him. Yeah if he would have done an assessment would David have You know, they're like the right number. Yeah never on this is an insult to the Holy Spirit. Most different is the Holy Spirit who calls you and places you in the body and he supposed to use fivefold ministers to call you out. Come on, you know, we are the Samuels and we are to discern what the Lord is saying now, the the members part is he has desires he or she has desires and natural gifts. God gave. Them Supernatural Gibson and it's a combination of the two that makes them distinct but that is not discovered through some, you know form you fill out some self assessment. It's a revelation of the Holy Spirit acts 13 there were prophets and teachers they were fasting and praying up and then the holy spirit said let that resonate the holy spirit said separate unto me Paul. And Barnabas for the work that I have called them. Yep. They didn't go into a form. They didn't do in a self-assessment the Holy Spirit revealed what their call and their Destiny was and this is the way it should be for every believer. I heard Nate saying off off off the air that you know, so many Believers are coming into these mega churches pastors are saying well, we don't have time. Yeah baby is the one person that's listening to you. I brought three thousand people drop out to Christ drop it Pentecost and they all got a placement in the first church. That's right Slater 5000 came in when the man was healed at the gate beautiful. Yeah, come on, most of these men and women had a general idea of how Temple worship went. Yep. They had to be taught what church worship was about but each one of them got touched. By a Shepherd or a teacher or an evangelist or a prophet or an apostle? That's it. Each one. I think I think that comes down to the placement and the work of the spirit because when Jesus went to heaven the Holy Spirit came and then he lived in each person. So to turn around and say that they couldn't be touched. Then he's everywhere. Mmm, you know Believers he can touch all believers at the same time. If you let him he is letting him right? I'm in control. We got two minutes fear of losing control a lot of Shepherds and I used to be this way. When you start telling people they have spiritual gifts. They have a To call it's a challenge because if they excel in that call you feel threatened. Oh and so the ideology is and Nate mentioned mentioned it earlier when Moses was inundated with judging Israel from dawn to dusk Jethro. His father-in-law said look, you need to delegate you need to delegate men try and women who are full of understanding full of the Holy Spirit who can deal with the you know, not So important matters the meaning or matters you just deal with the critical issues and it saved Moses as Ministry. He was use on a quick burn out but a lot of pastors can't do that because they lose control. They lose control. They're afraid of someone outshines them. Someone evangelizes better than them were preachers better than am will prophesize better than them you shut them down because that's a threat to your ministry. We've got to get this rooted out of the church then you that way Mikey is But that one is you bring that up. He is a good answer for that teach them. Well, just maybe if they do feel threatened it can at least go into a platform for deliverance. 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The prophets the evangelists tag your man, where's my witness? I'm gonna start casting things to mention mention purpose of fivefold ministry. Bring us back on point is to actually be equipped as in one area or the other. Mmm, and it doesn't make us Head it makes us footstools. It doesn't the apostles and not the king of the ministry. He's the father come on to the ministry. The Evangelist is the Hand Helping Hand. They the pastor is supposed to be the Wonder buying. Yes. Yep binds and the teacher he just clears your ear out so you can have an ear to hear. Yeah, now this is supposed to be equipping the church. What about the prophet and the prophet? He supposed to see ahead see ahead. But as he meant to be a master or a footstool, I already said I was taking is the footstool people are supposed to put that feet on the him Jesus. Oh my goodness. Why not to walk on but to get to another place? You just Jam dropped. Yeah II. Yeah, I get quite papers up quite I hope you burn in papers right now Ian and owning Emily. Be me are owning them and I hope I'm burning am in Christendom. I hope I'm burning them because I can tell you I want you to share some of the other nonsense that we're hearing on the internet and on Christian podcasts and every other thing I I know what they're saying. I don't even know what they're trying to get at if they're analyzing the Holy Spirit and can't be predicted. He can't be analyzed and his work can't be analyzed. So please share with us the latest about the new age and all that about the last statement. That's made just close your eyes. You're in the spirit. Come on. She today. Is anybody can be yours dropping. I'm over it myself, you know there there are many things that are coming out like, you know, like Pastor robbing. You just mentioned, you know with the close your eyes and now you're in a spear or you know, you're jumping the spirit jacuzzi so we can feel the Holy Spirit or Jesus. You know, we've we've talked again about this and season casting a little bit about how that is such a false Holy Spirit. It has no beneficial. You no experience whatsoever. So the actual experience you're chasing is actually the more and bondage and this is why this is mono demanding and we also bought out passionate you were saying we were just talking about how you still have the father had so yeah, you know as a big church, you know churches often have connect groups and sometimes you know, whether their leader strong enough or not. You still have to report to the father hedge of You know the congregation the problem with look I have nothing against connect groups and these mega church people they use this method in its it and it works to a to a point. But the problem with connect groups today is your pasta and only your pasta has a Spiritual Authority and delegation and legislative authority over your life. You'll connect group leader does not have that Authority. Right? So if you're only connecting with your pasta as a Pasta, and not your actual senior pastor, then you're not getting the full Spiritual Authority. And you know what most Christians are facing right now. It's not even being able to connect to the past which is really really sad is the hard part that I think is coming out of a lot of the maker churches no offense to having a large congregation. May God bless you in that. However, the delegation as you said Pastor Tony, yep isn't being distributed or trust it amongst, you know, their their congregation one thing that you was saying pastor about the different methods that are coming out. I mean, it's ridiculous. What was saying was seeing New Age methods and my favorite term to say it's prophetic but it's laced with new age and I was on Facebook just like, you know, I believe we need to start our own CIA. I'm just putting that out there like spiritual CIA because there's so many things and we're told in the got like we're told in the Bible test the spirits, right? So we need a system that we can say, right? What's the fruit of this? Does it line up with the word of God, you know. Is a produce faith hope and love anyway, so I was just you know being led by the Holy Spirit and I saw this quote by this ministry and there are teaching prophetic. They're teaching all these spiritual gifts and the quote was Jesus is the newest age life. I was just literally gobsmacked. So what do I do? They referencing from that? Like they have an ID. The other thing is this person was saying close your eyes and now you're in the spirit because the spirit The Unseen realm so when you close your eyes you're in the spirit, but when I open my eyes again after closing them now, I'm Translating that spiritual reality to this reality. I'm gonna come in on so unscriptural. Yes it is because you can't be in the spirit. Am I sure in contact with the Holy Spirit e so you have to touch the Holy Spirit to be in the spirit because you have to open up a Chilled. Oh, wow. Yeah, so but this is the important that one. Okay, sorry disrupt your gym. But this is a portent of as you were saying to Pastor Tony about the you know delegation these people unfortunately aren't being taught how to hear the Holy Spirit how to navigate and even what to do with the word. Yeah this brings back what I said tonight in the word about the Samuel Eli complex. There's a lot of people out there saying this Samuel I can hear the voice of God I can hear the voice of God. I can hear the voice of God and what the enemy does but that is when it's not shepherded. He actually brings a spirit of isolation in and so now these people become their own answer but my challenge to those people saying, you know, I can hear the voice of God is Samuel the one of the greatest prophets of all time right didn't know what to do with what he heard. He had to go back to an older generation. Yes, somebody that was more learned and experienced then. I am and say what do I do? It was Eli now Eli gets a pretty bad rap, you know his sons all that thing. We know that he was cursed because of his sin. But in that moment, it was Eli that told him go back and when that voice speaks say speak, I'm here speak Lord. Yeah. So Christians can't do it. Just oh, well, it's just me and the Holy Spirit I can hear God. No, you need to get a higher. This is what the word of season casting was in. This season you're not going to live breakthrough unless you go to a higher source of authority to shift you out of your funk and put you into breakthrough and shift you out of your drifting because you're definitely drifting my mom and you need shifting. Hashtag past Christy. Yes, that's not our Revelation. That was someone else's so what I wanted to share with you is against Thing else that's going on. Let's go back to the Book of Genesis where we were told not to eat of the tree of the knowledge of Good and Evil but we are we are so I asked which tree you were eating from Jesus or are you waiting from wanting to know more about what's good? What's evil, you can't handle it? So God tells you not to eat of it. You see Adam Adam was on these own and God said it's not good. This man be alone. He wasn't lonely sure. He wasn't lonely. He was in danger of being too much. So God wanted to give him someone he could share it when when somebody stands up and says, they're everything. Then they're just in danger of being all in all that was one question. I know we were supporting about is can that pastoral leader be everything now and they have all pretty straight into no right. Only. Jesus can have all five fault right? Come on. Let's be honest about now. Just okay just take four. Instance right for pastor Prophet evangelist teacher and opossum know how are we going to do all that in one go. Have you got enough hours in the day while I haven't that Christ has yes Christ has you see and so he was all five and if you want to have a healthy Church, you need to be all five. Then needs to be all five fold Ministry operating in the church. And people have these chords on their life, but they are not all they could be a pastor and they could be a teacher. They could be a mix of things. I don't know about this wind and and these wings or whatever else is being said these days that they can be a mixture. Yeah a mixture, but they can't be all five. They cannot because that would Rob us for the need for each other. That's right. Christ is all five. Yep, and he wants to be all five in his church not all five in one person. That would be just what we see happening in the church, but they said that these these really Foundation or one, you know, where people get brought to God. That is so essential with the fivefold ministry. That is so essential that those three you're out of the five are really bringing people to God. Yep, you know and then the other two are to Bringing God to people you see there's a balance in that. So you're saying you're saying the prophetic isn't enough not enough to keep you in that place, you know of growing Maturity. Yes the prophetic because we're a prophetic Church. You know, I'm not like, you know having got the prophetic everything we do is prophetic but we have to go to the next level the prophetic isn't enough. The apostolic is enough. We're always asking the Lord what's next and I want to go back to what you said. You said something so revolutionary it dropped in my spirit. You said the prophetic is about equipping but not these days that these days the prophetic is about indulging equipping means it's about somebody else. Yes, and Me tell you something you see we're supposed to be training people how to get on the field and play the game, but we're too busy substituting. The people that are supposed to be playing the game. We want to be out and play the game are culture. I really think leaders Apostles prophets get into your position and stay there find your name dot trying to feel all the emotions. Ocean - a problem and you're not got that problem solved out get on your knees and pray and ask God. You don't have to look for the emotion. You need to look for the god of the emotion now and it goes back to what you were saying Pastor Tony about the coach is the one who knows where every player fits best you brought that in such a great way new even use the NFL very American of you. Go ahead. Tell us. I mean, you know as prophets Apostles pastors to fivefold. Yes. God gives us a discernment. We get a understanding of where each member of the body is supposed to fit in the team like a football coach would assign, you know, the quarterback the running back the you know, the kicking Baxter defensive the offensive teams are a lot of people come in with Talent have giftings and they think they know where they fit but only a coach can make the team a winning team. Come on, and we we talked about having a champion team rather than a team full of Champions. Wow. So how many how many times have we had people come to us and say this is where I fit and we go no. No, this is not where God's putting you, you know, we feel you should go over here. You should you know do this kind of work and every time we've seen fruit come out of that because the Holy Spirit shows us it's he's his ability. It was the reason Same thing that gave Jesus Insight on how to choose the 12 out of the hundreds of disciples that were following him. The scripture says he went up on a mountain and he prayed and then when he came back he chose twelve. Wow, because he knew they were the ones that fitted in his Apostolic team. Yeah. Okay. Yeah so the coach knows where you fit so so don't you be sorry what a champion team rather than the team Paula Champions that do their own thing. I was talking tonight. I mean, I don't know how how factual is is but I know that the New England Patriots went through a period where they weren't winning anything. Yeah, they change their coaches but the head coach got changed and this man had a knack of how to see the talent on the team that he had and Make them maximize that talent and he taught them how to play together how you know, they all thought the same they all had same strategies and they started winning and they've been on a winning streak and when can I bring another subject up quickly and that's all about this coach and the team yeah, you know, if we did what God called us to do as leaders and we waited on the Lord ministered. Turd to the Lord every single one of our flock would be fed by the spirit. I'm telling you Pastor. We need to do what God Said to do. There are some that wait on tables, but we ministered to the Lord we ministered to the Lord and the Lord who knows to our people. Wow. Wow, we're gonna go on break and just kind of close some of these ideas and expand a little bit more big subjects a big something we could probably go on and on we want to make sure the church is alert to yes. Oh they better be alert true to let her jewelry me UNAM. Okay, go find uniforms for the Jet Beauty. But it's out to know what and then papers up and don't put any numbers on your jersey and we'll be right back. I'm going to speak that pay. I'm gonna speak that pay I'm gonna speak that pay change from faded pay for them papers up spur them papers up for them papers up. I think you actually do like go ahead you really just enjoy those portals? Jingle. What can I say? I'm just saying, uh, can I say hello to some friends? Who do you want to prophetically? Say? Hi today? I got some friends in Portland, Oregon. Okay, my from my previous oversight group mfi. Okay. So greetings to Clara John Peter and Bartholomew. Okay, Oregon say hello to some friends. You can say hello. I clean I want to say hello to my friend in Russia. That's listening to this in your you know, kept closed in Bungalow hiding from the Communist police support you yes, we'll see you soon. Okay any profit friends for you to master? I got plenty but I time she got friends in. Yeah. Yeah, your friend and you didn't dude. I don't even know what drinking that is. So, right yes ask me questions. I was hmm. I forgot. No, I didn't anyway, we were wrapping up this portal because we were really getting into why these things are dangerous and we as a church have to be Discerning with one another that interdependence that we've been talking about for weeks now Church alert Turtle art, you know and making the choice. Has to be interdependent so, you know, unfortunately some of our Brethren has been exposed to this. Yeah in churches and have participated in some of these weather being naive that yes know whether it being, you know through the church or even at home reading horoscopes. You know, how can they call you don't write call yourself back or if anything what what can a Believer do it? If they have fallen into that and didn't know about it, or maybe even intending, you know our church in that what can we say to the pastors? And what can we say to the kind of games? Well, I think that we need to come back to the witch of Jesus that we should judge people by their fruit. And so I would say with these programs any are grams the surveys Facebook comment. It's and whatever is defining you and your personality. You need to find out the origin of it. You need to locate where it came from do some homework before you fall into being seduced do some homework go and find out the history of it. Don't try to redeem. That was dedicated to Demons. You're not going to redeem it. No matter how many numbers you put on it and how many crosses you put on it. It's not going to be redeemed. It's finished with its curse. That's good. You need to find something better. And you know what the better thing is the holy spirit. Do you know he wants to tell you where you belong he wants to tell you? What your gifts are he wants to tell you what your call is? Yep, I'm telling you that he wants to do it because he wants to see you moving in the kingdom of God and not just sitting there and doing nothing he wants to do that, but you can only get that guidance and direction from the Holy Spirit. You will not get it from any. Place go and reason in the presence of the Holy Spirit and he will tell you things that you need to know Shanaya. That's what needs to be done. Let's have a look at the fruit is my identity in numbers is my identity in a personality is my identity. In a lack of Personality Jesus picked the most ungodly people and he moved in them Peter denied him. He came back. He Peter wouldn't have even got a chance because Peters character just wouldn't have made the Mark just wouldn't have done it Paul. He wouldn't have made it. He wouldn't have made it either you see when we start to predict. What's happening? We get ourselves into trouble. We really really did I cut in their pasta. I would like to just suggest to some some of our brothers and sisters who may have had an assessment Enneagram that puts a stigma on them. It's going to be hard to shake. Yes, if they've if they've got subconsciously now they've been convinced, you know, there are two there are three of their eight. There are some whatever that is. It's going to take Bit of forceful prayer to shake off, you know, whatever influence hasn't has impressed upon their minds and on their souls that this this is who I am you this is so dangerous because we're using a system that is not originating in God to tell us who we are and that is that is demonic. I got a call it out divination is it's a demonic impression see God night quoted Jeremiah. I knew you before I formed you in the womb God had a personality ready for you Tom on right and that's why only the Holy Spirit can reveal your placement in the morning and your function in the body. So I would humbly reach out to you brother and sister and and say to you you need to break the power of whatever categorized you yeah from thatís assessment and break free from that chain. Yeah, you need the Holy Spirit to loosen those change and give you keys to the kingdom and find out what his personality what his gifts are in your life and and we have the full potential to had the full godhead in us. And so therefore how you're going to number that system. How are you going to do that? We had the potential of the full godhead in us and we have our relationship with Father Son and Holy Spirit. Spirit seriously guys don't sell yourself short, but go and spend the time with the Lord and you know, don't listen to these doctrines of demons. I'm not judging anyone. I'm telling you this is doctrines of demons and it says in the last days there will be seducing spirits of doctrines of demons and if I could just One thing if you have done this then take the time that you spent looking at the horoscope looking at the any Graham looking at the Facebook personality test, whatever it is and spent it with the Lord. Yeah soit asked him. Who am I? Why have you made me? Where do I fit? And he will show you this is wonderful. But Pastor I think this is the this is the bottom line. What we're going to say right now. Can Believers hear Jesus speak to them? Yes you the Holy Spirit? Yes. He said those are the he is here is voice why sheep hear my voice Saints out there in the listening audience. If you believe that you can't hear the voice of Jesus the voice of the spirit. We want to we want to liberate you you can we can we can show you we can train you how to tune your heart to Jesus. He says my sheep hear my voice Yep. This is the key for tonight's podcast. We love you. Don't judge you. That's right. We want God's best for you. But God's best is revealed by the Holy Spirit and and if they need help Now you're hearing God's voice just like that Eli thing. I know when I'm about to sign off. That's why we have developed a new ministry called online dipping night. We're taking it to the world where we understand. There are people out there that might be in a predicament in their churches that don't move in the prophetic don't move in, you know understanding that you can hear the voice of God, you have trained prophetic ministers. He time-tested ministers and it's very very easy. You can just go on Facebook and book an appointment online. It's on the first Monday of every month and people from anywhere in the world even my friend. Russia sign on and get a prophetic word and unlock that key for hearing God speak to them about themselves and Summit. Look I just want to finish but some of these things that are being done in a church. They're foolish. They're foolish their Folly the PHA. They're really Fay. Yeah, but their Folly. Yep, and you need to look at them done a district. Uzi spiritual jacuzzis. There's only one thing that I know and that was the will in a woman's was that at the well, she wasn't bubbling. She was sobering. Wow. Well, well guys Hopefully if you were listening to this you walk away feeling that God loves you so much. He doesn't want to put you in just some old category some old tree model statement made by man, man. Can't Define you cop. God can give yourself a gem. I'm gonna give myself because we are closing this portal down. With this here alarm for the church church alert Church alert burn them papers. All right, guys, you've been listening to portals. See you next time. Bye. Hey guys. Want to hear God speak to you personally, then join us here at dipping night. It's every first Monday of the month at 7:30 p.m. To find out more information or to RSVP. 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"Church Alert! Burn them papers up." In this episode of portals, host Shenaya Annise and our senior leadership -- Dr Robyn Kassas, Ps. Tony Kassas, and Ps. Nathan Kassas -- confront a hot topic in the church right now, which is self assessment void of the Holy Spirit. There are so many techniques and forms being used in the church to reveal one's personality and purpose. People are turning to programs and surveys to find out who they are and what gifts they have. Our team confronts this on the head and talks about having a personal relationship with the Holy Spirit because He lives inside everyone of us. They challenge the listener to cultivate communication and intimacy with Jesus through constant conversation and communion. By doing this we won't belittle the Holy Spirit -- a member of the triune Godhead -- by trying to fit Him into our own ideas and perspective. If that wasn't powerful enough, Dr Robyn once again calls us to a higher level of maturity by emphasizing that we need all fivefold arms and offices of ministry operating --  the prophetic is not enough. The only way we can have a healthy church is to allow Jesus to be all fivefold offices in His church...only He can be all five because only He is God! After listening to this episode we hope you won't settle to being defined by a number, test, result, or "type". Instead, let the Holy Spirit reveal your identity and the fact that you are so unique there is no one else like you in the universe. Wow! Let that land. 