The series is over, but we're not quite done. We are the AfterBuzz TV Voltron legendary Defender after showing we're here to talk to you guys about season 8 as a whole we're going to talk about character arcs. We're going to talk about the end of reality. We're going to talk about some of our favorite moments and we're going to talk about it with two very special guests. So let's get this ball rolling and team. It's time to form Voltron you're tuned in to AfterBuzz TV the ESPN of tv top. Hello everyone. Welcome back. We are the AfterBuzz TV Voltron legendary. Defender after show. This is the season eight review. We are going to talk about season 8 as a whole we are going to have a grand old time doing it. I have with me a green line Megan Salinas. Hey everybody. I'm black lion Katie: and we have two wonderful fantastic returning guest that we are so thrilled to have in studio our showrunners Laura Montgomery and joaquim De Santos. Let's go. Thanks for having us. We're happy to be back in talking about the final season. Yeah, and we have to sort of give a Thing that we haven't really watched it in a while really sure what season 8 is anymore. I refreshed myself on the episode thumbnails on Netflix. So at least I have like a and they spoil light reminder. No just me things. I will never be over when Netflix marketing screws up that badly. Well, welcome back before we get started. We are going to do a little bit of housekeeping as always we have Have the live chat going for those of you who are watching live on YouTube. We have the hashtag for those of you who are watching live or listening later that hashtag on Twitter is a BTV Voltron. If you've got something to say throw it in the hashtag throw it in the live chat. You may well get a shoutout. I will say that we do check the hashtag throughout the week and it lasts longer than the live chat does so art links fun stuff throw it in there if you want it to be a little more permanent. And as always we have Vara Tavern of lions house rule be nice or get out. There we go. Oh, yeah, everyone has opinions. I firmly believe that you can express your opinions in a respectful Manner and if you find yourself unable to do that, you will be banned from the channel no more AfterBuzz animation for you little boy. Most of you have been pretty dang good at that which Ira preciate keep it up and we will continue season 8 though you guys almost serious Finale what what was releasing this last season like for you it was exhausting. Yeah releasing. It was really easy because we were like out of you it's done. We're relaxing. We're kind of like things were nice and slow making it was a whole different scenario. This was where we really procrastinated a lot. Things like we thought we had this beautiful idea that we'd have all this time at the end. When where there's no new episodes coming up that we have to make and like we'll have all this time to like reboard all these things. I need to be reboarded and focus all this attention and we had none of that time and I don't even know how that happened. I think what we forgot to realize was doing a regular producer duties takes the whole day and the end of the day was when we did all our storyboard stuff. I think I don't know how the math work today. We assumed that like as soon as season 7 was done. We reverted back to being like storyboard artists or something and then we just be like, yeah, we'll just like draw and stuff again. An input Balancing Act. We still happy. Yeah, like three spinning plates at it one day. I'm gonna figure it out. So to get it at 11:59 before it's due to be like 80 year olds like we figured it out. What is this crazy old person doing here trying to move cartoon. That's what we're all trying to do collectively. We're making a cartoon. So you had a lot of story threads to bring together and resolve as well as a lot of new information to give us was there. Was there anything The thing that got lost in the shuffle, was there anything you would have like to emphasize a little more that there just wasn't time for it a lot. I mean, yeah, it'sit's tough. We had this massive nerva backstory to sort of really set up and queue up and we were able to do that a little bit sort of leading up at Not Season 8 was really our big push to get that all set up. I think you know that came at the cost of like I would have loved to have spent more time with the MFE pilots and sort of figure out what made them. Tick and we got a little bit of that with you know, like day 47. But yeah, I don't know there was stuff like that like incidental Side characters that we just were we were super fond of yeah, it's one of those really tricky things about having a show this big as you introduce all these characters and we had all these great ideas of like they're all going to come into play in these many different ways. And and so you would be kind of the in the writers room with the writers like talking about all these things and then slowly but surely Surely as we needed to just kind of Whittle it down and make it understandable and get the strongest points across like these little things would fall away. And so suddenly you'd lose that that kind of side character involvement. Like we had this idea this idea of like slob was going to kind of be with them and figuring out all of these like crazy in a reality traveling stuff and like he would know all the realities that he would know exactly where to go. He'll be in the cockpit with a crazy and then were like, oh no we need to just like do we really need slob? Yes. Yes, you did but that might be a little awkward. So yeah, and honestly just like the finale it's helped just that last episode like we've always with every finale we've done in our three like big Seasons. We you know zarkon we consider be one season lotor has a second season and then this big like Sendak Earth / under of a Arc each of those had a big finale and every time Time we would write that big finale and we would run out of time like we would override it and I would always try to say like guys we need like at least an act of wrap up and then for the big series finale like it would have been awesome to have an entire episode where we could just dedicate to it like tying up Loose Ends, but you can't do that. We we wrote an episode and then we got notes like hey, there's only action in act one. Can we have action in act two and three? I like know. That's crazy. But I'm seventy eight episodes just a 26-episode wrap up. This is a 78 episode 1 but when you when you look at that final episode, it really is just the First Act of like fight stuff and the rest is pretty much wrap up. Yeah. I mean we were just saying to each other we wished that the conversation in limbo almost could have had its own episode. It came out awesome. Would that have been to really like explore Deep dive into a nervous pee OV and make that transition when she you know, sort of yeah decides to go along with the Laura sell that yeah, but you sort of deal that just hit the hit the kind of cutting room floor storyboard wise just because we didn't have the time and so we're looking like it's a kids show technically still even though we're trying to make it more than that. You have a scene. That's basically an act long. That's just in a white. Lodi space with people talking about like, you know, bigger emotional stuff. Yeah, and you know letting that go any longer than that is just like you can't do it. Yeah kids are sleeping right now. What's interesting though? Is it it seems like we're in a I don't know sort of social situation. Now where those types of shows are becoming more and more of a reality and we were on this like weird precipice were we were always working on shows that were pushing the boundaries and maybe Voltron Was on the Tipping Point it seems like now animation is way it's broadening like every day. So hopefully we'll be able to see more shows that can like lean in and get really really character Centric and and still have all the Sci-Fi like big action stuff to go along with it. I was telling him what came out, you know, we were just talking about how during our time on Voltron we restarted in a very specific point in the industry where we were very Used to working inside of our boys toys animation box and trying to push the boundaries and those were literally only jobs that were available to us because those were the only shows that Studios had in animation and during our time on Voltron like Castlevania came out and change the landscape and now suddenly there's all these Studios Netflix opened its own Studio here. We were making a show through DreamWorks for Netflix and now we could have just gone. Gone straight to a show that was more geared towards like young adults and more but we were like trying to like like when we sneak it in the backyard, this is secretly a much deeper show everybody, but it's exciting that because that's it's a reality that we didn't know if it would ever be right a thing because we were working on quora and we would say to ourselves like this is the last time we're ever going to get this chance you guys like core is like a crazy. Teacher where Nickelodeon knows they're not making it for kids. It has no toy tie-in. It has no consumer products tie and it's just meant to be kind of an art project at the studio. And so it was allowed to be this very mature different show for an audience that they didn't really understand and and so when it was over like, all right, well back to the old way we were prepared for it. And we you know, we definitely had more of like a fun camp. He vibed Voltron but we still wanted to try to customize this much of the like sort of Pathos and and sort of hero's journey and sort of deep character introspective stuff as we could. Yeah, but you know, it's funny too because it just seems maybe even to ourselves but it seemed like The lines got blurred even in how it was received by the fandom and received by even like the media Outlets. It was it was sort of like on the cusp of being talked about, you know, with other shows that were way more mature like all the Game of Thrones of it all and it's like Getting compared to shows that we were like live-action shows where like, oh, they should have done it like this and it's like that. That would be awesome if that were an option right at all right in any way but asked us to consider are like little robot lion show being made us trying to make this show for as many people as possible under the guidelines of a boy's Toy Show. It's Are going to be able to have like quite the ability to push farther that like a live-action like Walking Dead on AMC. That's at 10 o'clock at night specifically for adults where you don't have to worry about how a my kids going to know if your kids are watching Walking Dead you have other problems the better your the best parent in the world. But what was it that sort of desire to push the boundaries that Sort of resulted in this climax where yeah, we have the big action set piece leading up to it. But ultimately the resolution is one that's brought up from empathy and understanding I think so and I think I will say DreamWorks was incredibly patient with us with regards to us approaching a lot of these subjects. They were, you know, maybe still figuring things out in terms of how they would approach, you know other topics that we can we can get into a little later but I I'd say the finale is almost I don't know. I don't want to say unlike anything that you would see and other like-minded shows. Like let's say like Transformers or Power Rangers or something that like Voltron was by outward appearances being compared to but it was it was something I think really exciting for us to be able to explore because we did create villains and create Heroes that worked with in this very complicated. Of like Shades of Grey Spectrum, there was there was there was black there was white but we played in this really weird morally ambiguous Zone A lot of the time and that was I think it's important for kind of audiences of every age group to see that and we also came from working on shows like avatar The Last Airbender and Cora which very much push those boundaries as well and we're extremely groundbreaking. Oh, yeah children's programming and it was you not something that That was coming out of Western animation. So I mean we I would say we learned an insane amount from Mike and Brian. We just had to reverse engineer that into the goofy count that was are like little little trick to the industry. It was like, how do we do all that cool stuff that we were able to do in those shows and sort of ground this package and honestly, like a lot of it was just us knowing that Our ability to like show everything on screen like every type of representation we might have wanted to show we might not get our way on everything. But at least through having these larger lessons we can we can still push those messages right of acceptance and of understanding and of like looking Beyond and those are just important messages, I think like everyone kind of learns them in their life in their own way and Don't know like I was such a little like asshole kid. I didn't understand and I didn't understand why people cried when they were happy as like, why would you cry when you're happy like you're happy and then of course now, I'm the woman who watched a T-Mobile commercial today and friggin cried. So it's commercial. It was beautiful. I will describe two afternoon. You know, they're they're things that come through I think life experience and through learning and our paladins had that kind of on steroids with their whole Voltron Journey. So, you know to really show how that manifested in how they learn from it was it's important and I think it's just important for kids to see it. Even if they're not there in their life yet to know when they get there. They look back and like oh happening for that character. Yeah to be able to see it happen to someone else. Someone that you're invested in because so it's Lance. He's my favorite and then you watch him grow from this brat right to the right arm of Voltron, right? Yeah. Actually, I think this is a good point to start talking about character arcs and this season. Yeah nerva. She is amazing and horrifying and not the villain. I expected to make it to the very end. Here. We are. I don't press where you at all sympathetic. Talk to her and her 100% it it's so she was one of the most fascinating characters to watch because once she gets her memory back and she realized you know, contextually speaking we as the audience find out who she is at the same time. She does you you slowly start to realize how much of this entire scenario she's responsible for whether inadvertently or not. And so it's so fascinating watch her refusal to take Possibility for her part in it, but still desperately wanting that simply, you know, the human connections that she was denied, you know human so to speak I'll take a telling that the perfect world that she found a slot herself into is the dimension where she died where it is taken out of the equation. Yeah, it's possible that it's a dimension where the comet never happened because Voltron was obvious. It's like a surprise the alliances were still there. But the giant robots were you've brought this monster down upon us. What are you so it's it's telling that that's the perfect Dimension that she found is the one where she died super early on and correct me if I'm wrong, but her to obtain the perfect world. She was also basically willing to kill infinite versions of her son and her husband in order to get what she deemed she was worthy of. What that's in that sort of like the misdirected love right? Like she was in one hand looking for the acceptance and the love of a family that she never had but she was blind to everything else all the other chaos that she was causing as a result that to me is is interesting. I feel you know, it's an interesting character. It's not necessarily like the most like honorable by any means but you know characters when you can understand why they want it, but then you see them. Them doing things that are absolutely unacceptable to get it. It's like, you know, it's wrong but you know, you can kind of just and we're hearing crackle in my ear. Yeah, there there's something really incredible like interesting to me about her kind of victim mentality where she she really won't accept that like a lot of this is her fault. She just looks at basically like she's lost her whole life. She's witnessed. It not knowing that it was hers realizing looking back on all the things. She should have done differently that she could have done differently and it's kind of you know, she's kind of trying to point that blame of like well if I the quintessence had Thought to do you know, she'll turn it on everyone except her even though she was right there, you know kind of diving into this whole quintessence research and bringing this whole thing about its voltron's but it was also cool. I think you know, one of the things that I was really surprised of in the room, I don't really remember how it came up with the notion that when she shows up on this reality and then Voltron follows. They're like why have you brought this like demon monster? Thank you. The world it's a it's a it's a crazy sort of flip of the script where really, you know Voltron was doing good. But in a lot of people's eyes and it's you know in a certain people's eyes. It could be seen as when you wouldn't know bring you a beast in that City. That's right. Look at this giant monstrosity that's going to wreak havoc on our planet because the nerve of parked hers out back. She was smart enough to store it Leon off-planet going and we were talking A little bit before this about you know, how there's this portion of the fandom. That's like, how could you like justice for lotor and Andrew? You know, where is his Redemption and how could you kill them off? And obviously, you know, we feel we're coming from a point of you know, he's gone so far off the deep end that that death was really the only sort of Salvation that he had on some level but it's interesting that it was it was lotor in that reality there was Version of lotor that was you know, unaffected and uncorrupted and you know doesn't come from that that kind of horrific background that are lotor did that was in essence kind of kicked off everything being turned on a nerve has plans. Yeah. It really does highlight how a person's like the circumstances that they find themselves in really do have an effect on the person that they become right? But it's also a matter of choice like this these awful. Awful things happen to him like there's no question that lotor would have turned out better had his parents been physically capable of empathy for their kind of zombies. So it's an issue. There's no not the weird shirt said to the weirdest thing I've said today, but even after all that happened he made the choice to go. You know, what fine violence it is lean super hard into that curve even while he was still going. Oh, no, I don't want to mess with my goal or Heritage. Oh, no, I'd rather be an all-day. No, no this Like and and that's I think that non cleanliness of like where he fits in and like the villain category of the hero category or the character that's going to be redeemed or that is an area that we like to play and in sometimes does not have the answers that everybody's sort of hoping for, you know, we'd like to blur those lines. But sometimes you know, the lines are blurred there for the fans have their own interpretations But ultimately it's a story guys right one gets Tabla happy ending and in the story, I will say he was beautiful beautiful hair and he middle or together look beautiful together. This is very true. But yeah, I mean you ever see those beautiful flowers and then you go to smell them and they smell like death itself. That's kind of that the hell of a point. I still ship it, but no it does not work. Within the framework of the narrative in any capacity look there is a universe in which it happened and it was fine 50 not that you have the beauty of Love Story. There's an a you wear it totally worked out and everyone was happy because Comics to be written fanfics go crazy. Yeah. Well and ultimately it's the memory of what he was trying to do that brings her nerver around lie. Yeah. And so there was there was goodness in him like you can't you can't deny that. At but some actions are you know, really your only way out you kinda Got Away perspective is you got to you got to kind of pay the ultimate price well for loto there was some good in him, but cool motive still burning. So totally involve the ton of murder. Yeah, pretty sure all of the battery all Tans are super dead because I don't think anyone else found that Moon if you want to hear about a while. I'm sure Rimmel. Would love to hear your thoughts on that. By the way, when that episode came out and when we were getting like the recording we couldn't stop saying to each other but we love that read so much like that name. There were a lot of fun talking about that. There were a lot of fun references to the Original Series in this season. And like at the very beginning we actually have a clip from the original series playing sound like that. God bless to sound like this. We you know, we love the original show and we always had this silly idea because we play with so many different realities that like what if in our reality the show it's technically live action to them and it's being made about them. And so Place because here we are making a show that's based on that show, right? And I was like, well, what if that show is based on our super meta inverse meta. It was just funny to us that like we could work it in. We always wanted to work it in and some way just because you know, we love it and we like to pay homage to it. But that like we joked about it and we actually had a few more references like in the episode. I ended up way super overriding that episode bunch of stuff looky right or mistake. But it was all goal is all gold. They just had to go but being where they were going to see like the spend icing like she wasn't there though. But like I think it was like hunk and Keith were like that little viewing party with like honks family and and then they see the sea and they're like, wow, they're really taking some liberties. A space Hospital would have expired I would not be here right now if that had happened because I would have died laughing I've been doing there was never made it never even really made it past like the roughs and storyboard because again like I so over wrote that episode that we just started hacking stuff out. There was a also Tim Hedrick did an amazing Pidge in the room and a lot of like us being so obsessed with was with him. Just going like what using you just got wet. Bring in more OG page begs his ability to emulate that voice. Oh, yeah. I know they are just wonderful. Yeah, we got to do that. We got to have the little nod to like Pages outfit and a Laura's outfit that like kind of goes by real quick. Those are so fun. I felt pretty great at Montage and then we got chip at the end to yeah. The biggest trolls ever. I'm just never gonna make wants to take that but we you know, I so I'm just going to admit I never watched vehicle Voltron. How dare you, you know, like I did my research and like there's a cool idea to Idea to it there and and my husband I were recently recently watching Pat labor that how they call it. That's how they call it on the thing Pat labor. They called laborers patlabor is what we'd always call it, but they're probably rivers and it's this like cop next show and it's really a clever like it is fun because they have mix and they're cops and they just kind of episode 2 episode do cock things and I was like, well if you're going to make a vehicle Voltron, you've got these three teams, they could basically be like cops and mix it like just described. My dreams show. Yeah, we cute it up and then and ship. I just I love the idea of like pidge's one goal in life, you know going out to the world and seeing sentient AI like to create one of her own and she's doing it like with her brother and it's this like nice bonding moment. And then the fact that chip was like what pidge's cousin? Yeah, that's right our brother. I believe it was brother what it was like in the Lucia. It was really just cuz it was me too. It would have been cousin. Well, I mean spend had a brother hard because they started cutting together different series to continue Voltron. So it's hard to say it just made a lot of sense that you know, she would pursue that and that would be her passion technology is her passion and then with her family and then obviously being such a huge part of the Galaxy Garrison. With Voltron kind of you know taken itself out of the equation. They would then sort of take up the mantle. Yeah, and then the really there's a pitch though. We're chip ends up taking over Earth like the sentient AI becomes the villain a thousand years later for I was just I was just about to say the Voltron that Sam and and everyone creates ultimately is like, you know becomes the place. Then they yeah, they become like the powerful and the Galaxy there's a scrappy Gall resistant and they flip the script become a good living long enough to see yourself become the villain. I love it. I don't know how much I love this because we are going to run out of time here in a hot second. I there's so much I want to talk about and I'm having such a hard time deciding things about a Laura. Oh Laura she had such a rough season incredibly. Well telegraphed very rough for sure. I think you know, we knew like coming down to it that with a nerve up being the final villain. And basically we have two female alt a in people who have had a very similar thing happen to them. They've lost their families. They've lost like the life they knew and it's just two very different. He's at how they handle this, right? They've had very sick in a weird way similar circumstances and come and approached him from yeah. It's a story. It's a story line. We wanted to originally do kind of with Keith and lotor back when like our kind of original story pitch where she was going to kind of exit the show Keith was going to be here who's going to stay with the teams. We wouldn't have jetted off and gone to the blade of Marmora and it was going to be a big like lotor season where you got lotor half Italian half cholera Keith half cholera have human It's like you've got this or two. Yeah, The Duality of those two and like how does it work out? And you know, you see lotor seems like the guy who has it all together in the beginning but then ultimately he evolves and becomes a better person. So we got to play a little bit of that here with the Lauren an herbal who very similar situations but Alaura going about it like the way that it's painful to her. She did lose her entire family. She lost her Planet her. Home and even now there's there's that sense in the first episode where she realizes once this war ends. She might not even have like her Voltron family. Like they have families. Like what are they gonna do? They don't need me anymore and it's this kind of very it's selfish in a way, but it's beautiful because she can feel that way but she's not acting on it was not sabotaging to keep them. I would love to do that to keep her family. Yeah, it was just beautiful to kind of see how much she was willing to take on a herself and at the end of the day like, you know, we keep sort of using this term boys toys show because that's sort of the reality of what we came into it. Of we're taking on the savour this franchise. It was very merchandise based and trying to sell toys two young boys essentially and at the end of the day it became this story almost a Laura Story solely when you when you really sort of like step back and look at it, but it was it was this sort of Face Off of two strong women that were approaching these problems from very different angles that who the heck would have known that that would have. Yeah, I would have Been the wedding. We didn't even really know it. We did it evolved. But but yeah, it was nice. It was nice because when we told Kimberly and of course she was sad and like listen, we know it's we never it's never personal. We're not like, you know, I don't like that Kimberly. Let's cook at the very last. Yeah, we told Neil and we try to be kind and like let people know and so we let her know ahead of time. So Is not just a reading the script like what the hell and she was sad, but we just let her know like listen this it's a Laura Story like she is literally the hero she's not dying to further another hero story. She is the hero like this war ends with her with her and then I made her a completely. Fake promise that I couldn't really make her listen if we do any more episodes I'm bringing her back or not. She's I'm not making this show without her but the like is there like the sort of post-credits thing was leaving that door open. Yeah, the lions taking off and and seeing the, you know, a Laura nebuli think in our minds it. Is sort of her quintessence coalescing and and reforming isn't like kind of coming back together so you can do whatever you want with that like yeah, man one guys. Honestly it was it was a door left open. Like there's nobody ever really dies. It should be like comics and animation and sci-fi in and of itself is a door left. Right? Right. Yeah the word sci-fi exists in definition of your show. This is adorable instant. Back from the ending of Iron Giant all the pieces as a woman of color. And so I think a lot of fans only looking at it superficially were like, oh the the woman of color was killed off and it's like Yeah, there is a Trope of people of color dying to save the stupid white people around them. Like I understand that Trope, but the problem with that superficial interpretation is that they're ignoring the fact that she's the main character here. Well, there's that and also just put it on the table. Our original pitch was that they were all gonna die. Honestly, like in my opinion that would have been an easier like window to bring them back if they all disappeared. You could pop them all back anytime and you got the team again easy easy spin off, but it would have been just disappear. Yeah. Okay. We're not look we should have been melted like me getting Cronenberg instead of taking it upon herself. They all would have agreed to do it. Together and and they would have gone in and essentially taken Voltron out of the equation. That was something that we're actually really believed for even from early on WE introduced this idea that Al for had helped to create this thing not realizing how dangerous it could be kind of like, you know, the person who created The Adams Family and like having that guilt and so having a Laura be part of the team that took Voltron out of the equation and now that weapon is an available to anyone that was A big deal. We were told that that was too sad a beautiful sacrifice that is allowed to make and also really when you think about it if it had to come down. On to any one person. She's from like a logistical standpoint. She's the only one powerful enough and we sort of demonstrated it through, you know, if her being a life-giver so we've had a lot of characters like who've been on like the the death table. We've thrown them all out there at some point right had to kind of get thrown out at a point in the story where it made sense that their death would have been worth it like For page it would have been saving her family. Like if she had died to save her family for honk it would have been saving Earth which almost happened. It was like and it was it was going to be that take place over this last season of it's not about who you are. It's about who you are. And the fact that she's done some bad things, but she truly believes in doing the right thing and making forward and she could have been a viable part of that. But I also would argue that it like there's just not there wouldn't have been enough time. I think for everybody to like absorb that if we had like a three season run at like bringing her in getting her settled and then having her that would have made more. Yeah, that was good but honks was especially tragic like it was the moment where they were going to where they were taking the Robie stuff. And there was like that ticking time bomb going off and he literally sees his family but he's never actually like interacted with him. So he only gets to look at them dark storylines princess pony in in the hashtag did some fan art of evil chip. Oh wow. #ubtv Voltron the check that out and makes me very happy. They're red glowing eyes. It's black and white, but he does look very happy. Yeah, but a Laura's death was the only one that made sense from a power standpoint. And even from the story standpoint that we were setting up with a nerva and then also just on I know like it's probably going to be highly contested but on a feminist level from my standpoint, the the man is always one who gets to be the hero like Armageddon Bruce Willis sacrifices himself to send you know fergan Ben Affleck that and like if basically Keith had gone like all do it and then you know Laura had to stand on the sidelines and be like good. Thank you Esa the day I would be happy like no I was on my women to be able to save the day too. And even if it's about making that ultimate sacrifice if people want to interpret that as sexist, and that's fine, but we're just gonna have to agree to disagree. I mean You tried well-to-do the heroic sacrifice you guys with no, excuse me. We tried to kill key this this is like well, we don't need to kill Keith and they said you can't do that. We're not kill happy there I think. Something there's this is a journey and there's something meaningful to I think everybody's death. And and so when you even look at like melted lotor course, he basically had done to him what he had done to so many other people. So there's there's like a sort of a given to take their. Yeah, I love it and and like a show where I don't want to rag on any other shows that skirt around death or anything like that because again, they are writing for a certain demographics, but I always appreciate when shows have You know actions have consequences and sometimes character death is a really good way of conveying that and I think for a lot of other people people forget that a Laura and season 1 is the same character that picked up Shiro threw him out of a room at right as the doors were closing and basically sack was could have died in that moment. She was sacrificing herself. So it's not like this is out of character for her. Yeah and current said like 15 different times like What about the risks you could you could not come back from this if you give all your contestants to the ball Mara, if you give all your quintessence to making this gigantic worm. Hold a transport zarkon's ship. Like if you don't the dark and every time she would say like I know the risks and YOLO or into the void With Honor. I love that. She had to do a hard reset on a nervous brain and then You could fix things like she's the only one that would have been able to do that in any capacity. Yeah, and it's allowing a nerva to maybe experience the consequences that came as a result of her actions and really understand what those goods bellowing her to get past like The Cloud of all of the pain she's felt and I realized like remember the good things because sometimes you can get so bogged down with the negativity that you can forget what it was that you loved about a thing in the first place, right and she was altana She loved discovering. She loved knowledge and she she reached out with Alpha and she helped multiple people before they started this quintessence Comet project that kind of messed everything up. So she just kind of had to show her these things, you know? Yeah at one point at one point. Is there anything else that you because we're hitting the end of our time. Is there anything else you guys want to touch on now or should we save a few things for next week? Yeah, I mean, you know look we I think Lauren made a really good point in that. you know, sometimes you sort of lose sight of the good things for, you know, maybe some of the negative things we'd only hope that you know, the sort of big post-mortem from the fandom at large even those that are super unhappy with the Way season a turned out sort of looks back on the series with positive feelings because I think there's While feelings might get hurt and feelings might be people might feel betrayed by like story decisions like the show was made with nothing but like love and good intentions and positivity. And yes, we told some hard stories to tell and characters came to certain conclusions. That weren't like the most popular decisions, but we were just trying to tell a story that like looked beyond the campiness and Beyond the colorful Salinas to tell something that felt a bit more true and a bit more real and and had as one of our execs would always say steaks and consequences of steaks and Urgent steaks and urged a synergistic and that was gonna be a there's gonna be a restaurant that's one part of honks food Empire steaks and urgency, but we can, you know, we can leave all the other stuff for for our yeah. Yeah, and printers ponies has made a new version. Thank you for joining us this week. This has been absolutely lovely. Are there any other projects you're working on that you can tell us about know I am working on getting my floors redone. Yeah, I'm getting there. Popcorn scraped off of my ceilings which is all more expensive than I realized. It was going to be and and and moving all my crap out of the house so that these people can do this work and that is a hell of a project that I would not wish on anyone and I just took a week off with my wife to Marie. Kondo or entire house Daddy come over anything. She did with her clothes, and it was pretty epic. Like my pile went to your sister to eBay off. Look. I love toys like yeah during the course of Voltron during production like super weighty dark times. I would just go on like eBay and just be like, bye. Bye. Bye in a pile of toys stacked up behind me that I never opened up. Yeah retail cardboard box fort Oh goodness, and then he had a kid and said, oh no, I don't need all this stuff Return to Sender. Yeah, it sounds but all right. Where can the people go on social media if they would like to keep up with you? Um, all of the same places art of Lorne. I'm on Twitter the best for Montgomery and Instagram though. I will say the Voltron post like kind of over at this point. Yeah, so Don't it. Don't maybe follow me. Now. If you're just coming for Voltron, you'll probably be a little disappointed same for me genius two four seven on something and JD s 77 the other thing there you go underscore in between those so I'm going to unfollow you guys now because Alright, thanks again for coming you guys for having us you guys have been awesome this entire and we'll be back next week. That's right. Yeah the save that little announcement for you guys can follow me on Twitter and Instagram at the manga. That's what I really wanted to say. I wanted to give a quick shout out to Mark and Emma and Alexis who all were wearing the hashtag tonight. We miss you guys, and we love you and we'll be seeing you soon. The live Channel X. This is case. Love you. You can follow yellow line marked Annika at Mark. We'd Annika red line and my five at MI5 and blue orange blue and you can follow me all over the social medias as well as on YouTube and twitch at QJ. That is K IA X ET. 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 This week’s #ABTVVoltron covers Season 8 as a whole! Hosts Katie Cullen and Megan Salinas and showrunners Lauren Montgomery and Joaquim Dos Santos discuss Season 8, from Honerva’s character arc to Allura’s development as the hero of the story. They talk about the classic Voltron references that made their way into the show and even discuss potential alternate endings that never saw the light of day. It’s the penultimate episode of the Voltron after show - tune in! The Voltron After Show: Join the robotic lions in this intergalactic war against the Galra Empire by listening to the various recaps, reviews and in-depth analysis and discussion on each episode of the series. Not only will we break down the episodes though, we’ll also deliver all the latest news surrounding the show and have cast and crew join us. It’s the VOLTRON LEGENDARY DEFENDER AFTER SHOW! Show Summary: Voltron: Legendary Defender is an animated web television series produced by American companies DreamWorks Animation and World Events Productions and animated by South Korean Studio Mir. It is a reboot of both the Beast King GoLion anime series and the Voltron franchise, and its animation is a mix of anime-influenced traditional animation for characters and background and CGI for Voltron action sequences. Voltron: Legendary Defender is set in a science fiction universe where planetary energy called "quintessence" can be used to power vehicles and magic. The series follows the adventures of the Paladins of Voltron who must learn to work together to form the giant robot Voltron and use it to defeat the evil Galra Empire. 