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Want to AfterBuzz to be tonight. We were talking The Challenge season 34 episode 5 in poly, we trust my name is Danielle and Renee Ka Tick-Tock Tatty and to my left. You've heard of John Adams. You've heard of Amy Adams. We got Benny Adams. What's up guys? Thanks again for joining us happy to talk about the challenge. It was a good episode. It was you know, some people like French toast others, like waffles. You know what I like me some pancakes. What up Pam? I like that I like it. Hey, whoa good episode Another nail-biter of elimination. Yes, and certainly last but not least a man whose physique is better than the statue of David. We got to pump up that word out lightly because I'm a little bummed about the banana situation. Well, we're going to get into all that and more right now all we got Let's talk about guys. We got the whole banana situation. We got the whole car a situation. We got the whole Paulie situation. Of course, there's a little Josh thrown in there too. So that's great. We got a challenge that was called hooked. We got a Proving Ground that was called die for me. And also I've got some news and gossip for you guys and you guys are also gonna want to stick around later because we're going to be taking your calls and we've got that number. It's four to four three five four. Eighty 302. I tried to memorize it but I just could not we're gonna throw that on the screen. We're going to come to keep saying it over and over. Over and over again. We put in the live chat for you guys too. But first let's start with our overall thoughts who would like to start Benny. I love Kate another another great episode. This season has been amazing so far each episode better than the last episode super bummed that bananas went home definitely rooting for him. But yeah, it was good. Right Pam. Yeah also loved it. These challenges are really proving to be edge of the seat entertainment. Like the stakes are so high. For each of them. They're not just knocking off rookies. Like they usually do in the beginning. They are taking out their best players. So this wasn't pulling out the big guns from the get-go. So this was amazing. I will be on the live chat tonight and Alexis Nicole and the chat like Jared Banana Split joke. And yeah, this was really fun. All right in the world for me. I love Cara again. I hate bananas again. So I'm glad that I could challenge is back to normal Manny. I think it's been a great. Great past couple weeks for you hon Pam. I really have Karma. Yeah and the natural Order of Things. No, I mean, I agree with what you're saying. I think every move now really counts. It's not just like a burned Vote or you like you said thrown off a rookie. I mean everything is you got strong players. You don't know what the next move is. You got people saying they're going to do something then they stab you right in the back and don't do it. So it's crazy. It's crazy. But the challenges I agree or getting more intense. They're a lot more fun to watch. I was surprised especially I mean I We found turbos weakness and then we finally found his weakness. So some put them in water put in water. That's it. Same thing with you. There was a little yeah, I was a little surprised to you know, so for every time I watch the the new season, I'm shocked at the amount of people that don't know how to swim right? I mean II was spoiled hard I grew up on a lake. I was in the water. I just got thrown in the water as young kid. I just kept so so to me, it's like, how do you not? Yeah, but then again we have other people that just had big never picked it up or they didn't do it as a young kid or whatever but these people that live in the The gym join a gym with a pool, you know, do some laps like learn to swim fast. Well, like who said about car like in your I think was driven by George like just just wait if you know, you're one of your weakest it and you want to keep doing these challenges. Why won't you just came from practice? It's almost like a must you would expect it. Right? We always smell in the challenge. I probably should learn how to swim they have challenges that take place in the desert may find water for them to do whatever competition and so they're gonna be swimming every season. Let's be honest overall thought for me guys rough episode for me because it Involved most of the characters that I don't like now, of course, I'm always happy see bananas go home, but it did involve so much Cara time so much Polly just talking talking and I want to start with that honestly when he shook hands with bananas was I the only one that was like, there's no way in hell. He like he's actually going to stick to this. I called it. I called it we all we all call him so he wasn't gonna stick to his word because if I knew if Cara was good of voting Johnny he was going to do the same thing. There is no no way. He was gonna go against his girl. No way. It's the power of the I'll just say the fruit of you know, because I you know at the end of the day, I think truthfully I think Paulie would have wanted to stick to it because he seems like he's about integrity. I like Polly. He's a great competitor. He seems like one of those just you know stand up type of guys normally, but I think obviously carbine the factor persuaded him to go elsewhere. But at the end of the day, I was a little surprised because I did want to give Polly the benefit Doubt and maybe that's been naive of me. But again, like I said, I viewed Polly as more of a Integrity type of player. It's weird to me because you can you have the opportunity to get literally guaranteed get rid of a strong player on the UK side and you literally keep taking out your own players. I don't hate it or like I just think it's such a weird. They literally if they put Rogan and Theo guaranteed one of their competitors would have been gone and it keep doing this week after week. It was not the smartest most sorry pan, but he was definitely Not the smartest move to make oh completely 100% disagree. First of all, Paulie last one swore on his family members life that he wouldn't use that he would use his thing on just remember glass finale he cost just a million dollars essentially because they Johson what's her name? Sylvia were set to win but then they he gave them the penalty. He said I won't use it on you so we know Paul he's not trustworthy, which I'm not even Throwing Shade at because as banana Anchor repeated banana saying tonight all's fair in love war and challenges. Like if you trust someone that's given me I don't think any of us believe that Polly was being sincere there. Well, but part two is I really think and this is where we're going to debate all night. And this is going to be the Hot Topic is that I agree with car and Polly that bananas and Laurel throwing lure first putting in west then I do think that they were blindsided by the disloyalty to their team that early on and when there's a cancer you cut it out. Out and bananas and Laurel word that cancer and I think getting rid of them if they can make the team you nighttime. Yes, even if it's at the point of where they start losing all the challenges because they're getting rid of the strong Players Once you have bananas only wanted to be Team USA where United because I was online. It's very convenient. Let me just throw a kink in the chain here though Pam. They got rid of bananas and Laurel. You're correct. Are they a team now? Absolutely, there's there's still gross. No. No, I think that they are going to come together now more than they would have bananas was on the team. Bananas would constantly be doing what he did last week, which was trying to get out the people that weren't in his Alliance and the only way to do it was to destroy what they wanted to do to them. Guess what you couldn't put your money where your mouth. Oh, it's Laurel and bananas. It's just interesting to me that the whole everyone was. So like upset with Wes over, you know being like trying to you know, take out their own teammates Polly's doing it now and Pauly was like the one guy that went up to Josh and said don't you do it just don't want to we need everybody and now we're all human. So be it. Probably at some point I agree was saying when it comes down to it, when if we lose West would have I do not think Wes would have been like no I'll pick you off and if well, the team was winning they were winning. There's no need for any of that to happen. They were winning. They could have kept winning and kept winning and wait until they needed to fold on themselves, which is the problem. They made last season, they kept their own beefs and they kept, you know, imploding as a team. They should have learned from that. They didn't Laura was as the the female puppet to Johnny and Johnny was the puppet master and I think with Laurel and Johnny Gan the loudest strongest voice the next head that rises up will be able to unite and team if that is truly their goal to things. Oh Pam one, you hit one thing. I we've been witnessing the implosion of this team every week. It's just it's your employment. Uh-huh. Second season. Try it out here. There's going it always be someone's going to step up and want that that throw. As we saw with with poly SCI, someone's always going to try and make some crazy moves. It is too much ego. You can't trust people obviously this proves it regardless of West two wrongs, you know, don't make a right. It's you can't keep repeating the same steps. And now I mean obviously it where's Jordan stand in all this he was pretty upset now. I think he's gonna be back like that's the idea. So even though you took out bananas now Jordans like poop all you just lied to me. So I feel like an idiot. You think Paulie seems like probably like how our joys of like Polly good movement. Let's go. Best buds now know so, you know you got banned now you have more on alliances in your own team. There goes the team more and more every week. So I just don't see how getting rid of bananas. Not that I care bananas goes homes. Goodbye. Banana. See you later. I don't care but it's just it's never it's not going to fix so you might as well if in theory you're supposed to be a team at least put to keep UK players in I'll tell you why it's going to unite the team because we saw Jordan. Probably he's probably gonna scream. Yes, Pauline just you're okay leaving at each other. That's cause they're like big so they must be uniting your screaming over the love the game together. No, this is why I think it's going to unite the team I because this will go on forever or they'll unite and this is why because there's more males on the bananas Laurel side. You got Jordan Zack Thea or not the out don't whoever you got those guys. And supposedly neutral or girls on that are tough competitors on the other side. So every week it flips who's Zach is not neutral. Zach is on Team. Jordan was a cop friends the way that Jordan Paul has gotten who's the only described it. He said it's bananas himself Jordan Tory nany and Leroy. So bananas is gone. You got Jordan and Leroy and Nia. Well, I mean I decide to throw every Male Challenge and Leroy Jordan and whoever decided to throw every male challenge we're going to just see them pick each other off week after week. So it's in everybody's best interest and without a crazy person like bananas or Laurel just blustering at this point. I think they should unite but even if they do win these challenges, I think they're still gonna go after their own players because of what it shouldn't that I don't think is smart at this point. But I do think that what Cara I'm Polly said about like I'm going to get rid of the best player on the UK team. Yeah, Johnny is true. I honestly think like if you go if they next week's girl lamination, who knows but the following week like why wouldn't they go after their own player Josh to get off the fat off their teams? They don't think that he's as good of a player. So you're cutting the fast whatever. Jordan me laughter and Shadow Jordan Will and know he will and then but on top of that I think one thing that we can all agree on is this Mayhem this made the pretty much stronger good for them. Yeah. Well, I think Paulie what I would want to see happen is puffer Pauline our own it like bananas would if he did it like stealing money and saying all seem to own a pair of those guys. Yeah. I want to get rid of bananas. He tried to throw my girlfriend last week and he threw the challenge like buh. What am I a dum-dum? I'm of course. I'm trying to get rid of him you ding-dongs, but having said that he put a Target on his back. I've got nothing against you me and turbo are an alliance. You don't want to mess with that. Join us. Join us and have the guys unite I don't I like that if they want a million dollars. That's what they said at the same time Josh took the same thing Paulie did and there wasn't a Target on his back. So maybe there won't be a Target. You never know. The team was always kind of that time those different team at that time. Yeah, it's true. I want I want to get into the chorus tough, but I kind of want to save it for later. This is hers is very interesting. And honestly, she is the reason that any of this poly stuff happens tonight. She's actually the fuse so she did all this. Paulie wasn't going to do it unless she know if not, yeah. Yes. No, no, no, no camera top of me. She what she's the reason that this happened not polyester great. Absolutely. Great. Like I said in the beginning 15 hours. I think probably would have went the other way. Heck yes. Yes those crocodile tears that because the bar we got the whole bar scene because it's crazy and anytime everyone's like I feel bad for Cara. She's acting people every time she cries. I'm gonna say I'll see 90% I'll give her ten percent that she actually cried. She's acting she did it too. She showed us the cameras that how much he was acting. It was insane to me. I was so mad at her and I'm honestly curious. So what is our live chat think do you think it was a smart move? Do you think it's gonna help the It's going to hurt the team going forward. I want to know about bananas. Yes. Yeah, let's let's hear it. Well, let's get into hooked hooked was the challenge of the night. It looks super fun. I would have loved to do it. I used to I used to make zip lines in my Woods like as a kid. They were really bad in sketchy but no that was half the fun. So you the idea is I kept hearing they have an even amount of players on the Britain the US side at this point because they each went up against each other and the idea is if you if you get your hook in the in the ring, it gives you a little more momentum and get you a little further out. I noticed that it was it wasn't as my yeah, you know like a winning areas. I thought it would be it was like, come on me. Yeah, I don't know maybe maybe 10 feet but still it wasn't like everything is all you better get the hook on because like half the people miss and they were like right behind them right fastest time. I don't know why they wanted to announce who got the fastest time because it was just overall the team fastest time to win, but they made it very clear that Jordan got the fastest time hmm, but that didn't do anything yet accepted a Target on their back. Yeah as Jordan foreshadowed. I don't know I'll do a conspiracy for the night the producers just love the drama. So damn much like we're just going to add one more thing and just to see what from get any extra fights tonight, huh? Yeah. So fastest time wins, would you guys think I loved it? I thought it was really fun. I love the challenge ziplining. You know, I remind me I went I was in Costa Rica and we went ziplining through legitimate Sons now take mine. No, but I mean is is so fun that thing like I would have had a ball with that jump it in cruising down. But yeah, I think I think it was a little interesting you so like I said, we saw weakness there were turbo the ozone surprised at what was Esther doing what happened? Oh my gosh. Here's thing. She has two things knock. I don't think she can swim very well and she doesn't have the endurance. So you had to put those things together and you get what we saw. So I think water is that is the recipe to find out the weakness of You throw water into this thing and you find out who's going to sink or swim literally so I think that's the key. Yeah, you know who I was surprised though by seeing Nicole. She actually did pretty decent. Yes. I kept massive times on Nicole got yeah. Well, she did four minutes and 33 seconds if she jumped sooner. She was the one that was like scared. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if they start the time until your ring your hook. It's the ring though. I bet they don't start it yet. I don't know. I'm just yeah, I just assumed how did he blow he blows a whistle that getting some maybe does I was trying to think. Yeah, but that is very very decent. Well, I wanted to bring this up Polly three minutes and 17 seconds. He only lost to Jordan by 2 seconds and we everybody and he got announced as the winner. I'm not sure anyone else ever found out how well Polly. It okay. They got scores transition into why the car's not The Mastermind of this at this point that we were just talking about that will talk more about bananas has been hating on Polly specifically forever and like making fun of I love that. Everyone's like, oh he hates him but a since they're going I don't know why that dumb stupid elf doesn't like me. It's like well, you're calling him a dumb stupid-head. Well, I feel like it's the other way around. I feel like Polly does the same thing. I feel like it's a mutual like hey crew just kiss been making fun of bananas and not and targeting and that much. I don't know from what I've seen. He's been gunning for him that is bananas has his allies and he has his enemy. He might have been he might have been gunning for him in fiery challenge because well and he seemed to be upset, but then he literally made the handshake thing. So I think in theory of Cara just said, I'll vote for somebody else and then I don't think that Paulie would still be so into the whole banana riddle me this okay banana still had his puppets and he was able to control Laurel nany and Tory apparently and have them throw a mission on a girls day. Do you think or guys day do you think bananas would not orchestrate to get rid of Cara and Polly first? Well hold that that let me let me trouble you with this one real quick. If you have car was already eliminated to say she had gone home already and this situation happened. Do you think Paulie still would have made the same decision? Absolutely. Yeah, he bananas betrayed the team. I believe that they were all genuinely blindsided by that. I That it's one thing to be Wes and sit there and go when you thought everyone's Expendable talking. He didn't throw Mission Holly's all about get Polly's all about Karma and all about the team but in theory, he betrayed the teens tonight too. So it doesn't did I think he was responding at that point? It's like you started this fight. He should have got gonna die. All right. Oh he gave it to me, but I think at that point it just shoots the value and your credibility your character, you know, I mean, I think everybody knows that like Jordan said like okay now I look stupid. Well, what he could have done is not picked to Jordan. He could have picked someone like that on his Alliance. Like Cami could have picked car and cam kept his handshake word. He said I'm not going to I'm not going to pick people and let them pick both pick bananas and he could have been the what I think he wanted to make the statement and I think about Polly is Polly likes making big moves Johnny even said Polly is trying to be him. I've seen other cast members on social media say Paulie is trying to be the next Johnny Bananas and you know, he likes Making those big moves. He likes being the one where people that people are talking about. And so it was it was a very big move on his part and I think I saw that well, but he's doing a good job because no offense on team YB, because I love them but they haven't been able to take bananas dat. Well, they did when they had all the numbers lavender and tea might teamwork TYB, but Polly can actually beat him head on head in competitions. And I mean I'm here for it I say Great II just wanna say thank you when it comes down to it. I think Paulie was very new trial and think he he didn't mind making the decision to throw bananas in but I also think if it wasn't if he wasn't pushed the way he was pushed. I don't think he would have been that hung up on it because like he says it's too early in the game. I'm just going along with it. I'd really I just don't but it doesn't mean we can be together in the chat where we're getting and while you look at that Pam. We're gonna go to a word from our sponsor. Yeah. Yeah, what's up guys? We here at AfterBuzz. Just want to Thank you for making us the ESP and of TV talk and in order for us to grow we need your help. So if you're on YouTube right now, go ahead give us a thumbs up. If you're on iTunes go ahead and give us a five-star working AfterBuzz means so much to us and we just want to continue to learn and grow. So go ahead leave us a comment. Let us know how we're doing and we will continue to give you guys great amazing content. Thank you so much for that and guys just a heads up 15 minutes from now. We're gonna be taking your calls for two. 4 3 5 4 8 3 0 2 so start giving us calls will put you on the on the line and get you ready to go right out to the world. And that's fantastic. Yes. Yes. Any other thoughts on hooked? Were you swear you were you surprised or not surprised by the swimming ability of some of these people besides that Circle because D did pretty well see ya five five minutes and 50 seconds. What about Ninja when I was surprised by it and State plus minutes from Ninja. And indeed when she was doing it and everyone's or I guess Zack started yelling out. She's you know, she's trying to throw it. My first thought was good though. Throw banana. That's what I literally said last week. The girls on a girls day should do it and then our guys days the girl should do in throw a banana sin. And I thought that's what you doin in just was starting to do is I thought you didn't think. Yeah go for it. I thought she was doing that too, but I might note was like at least she's being a little more low-key about it. Like at least it's ambiguous. But now I come to see she really II really am I knew I knew from the start ninja wasn't throwing The Challenge from the get-go. She's been all about, you know team this and team that and she's doesn't seem like the type of person that's going to like follow what people were doing so it did shock me to see like how bad she did but yeah, I knew that wasn't that's not her style. Yeah and turbo do we have his time because I feel like we're like turbo didn't do these at four minutes and 54 seconds. It's not All given him or at least in the confessionals when you know when you know, they're talking behind each other's backs. They were giving him a hard time then but it really four minutes 54 seconds wasn't cool at all. I feel like we're all are we all just looking for a reason to you that find a weakness for Turbo, you know, I mean, it's he's not the best swimmer that's for damn sure, but I mean four minutes 54 seconds. I guess. It's on the the weaker side of grab the guys. I don't know. I guess he's just a very scary and intimidating. So to see that he does have a weakness. And what was Theo's time. Bye. The way they never gave us the light. They didn't give us bears time. They didn't give us Leroy's time because they were the last to go. I tried to write most from down. I don't know if I have feels in here if I find it. I'll let you know all about 4 minutes and 49 seconds. Oh and what was that? Oh, so yeah turbo finished right after him like five seconds later. So yeah interesting bananas win against Theo right? I don't know. What bananas did well bananas Three Bananas worry, I believe yeah. There's one in every three minutes three minutes and 29 seconds. He was like one of the like the third of the fourth guy. Yeah. Oh, yeah. They think yeah, they went against each other they windshield and the the finale as well. There they are. I'm sorry Proving Ground, right the perfect. So, oh my God, such a badass name. Alright, so that's all great. So let's get to the tribunal stuff. So they give it to Polly part of Holly chooses Cara and Jordan to be in his tribunal with him and then we get to a scene with bananas in his MTV underwear. Hmm. He's lying. The bed is empty. No one else knows a nice rocking TV under I was so focused and he's talking to Leroy and you know, that's his only guy left and going here's here's my peers. When I gotta I'm gonna jump ahead just because it's so fine me. He's like at the after he laughter bananas loses. He goes, you know, I was really doing this for My Boy Leroy. This is more about Leroy than me because I really wanted to you know, come back come back for Leroy. Two seconds ago bananas. You said you were going to switch a team UK the hell with that it done for your boy believe you would have just left them in the dust. It made no sense when he said that I couldn't I couldn't put my wrap my head around that. I have to point out that chocolate chocolate in the and I agree with that of course, but also bananas with the whole Leroy thing. I love bananas so logical when it's his possible elimination, but so let's get Let's get him. Let's get him when he's not on the Block. You know, what John he's a snake and so I you know John John he's obviously just like you never know with him. So it for all we know if he would across teams. He could have tried to help Leroy. Yeah opposing, you know, but who knows, you know, right before we continue one of the ways we keep all these shows for you free is by our amazing sponsors. And today Spotify is one of our sponsors on Spotify. You can listen to all of your favorite artists and podcasts in one. 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Right so we get to the tribunal ceremony and they're all talking and then Theo goes on a long rant because I think that he realizes he might be up for grabs there because you can't vote in Bear twice in a row. So bear was automatically in a weird way bear was safe no matter what happened in that child's you can't go twice. Hey get soda. Place, right? That's what I think. That's that was what that's one of the rules. You can't get what's the tribe, you know, you can't be in the tribunal twice anyone else from so you're telling me they could have voted for Bear against a nice. I think so see I feel like if they could have a would have done that though. Anyways, let us know live chat with that is about I thought you couldn't get voted in by your own team two times in a row because they wanted to make it more even though I know actually that might be it but I might be wrong. But anyways, so Theo thinks he's on the chopping block. So he goes on his speech and then everyone. Start saying yeah, we think it could be you and then Kyle says I don't I think it was in the confessional. He's like, you know, what? Why are we doing this? He's one of us stronger players, you know, we could be used to vote for someone else and I'm like Kyle good accent. No, I'm like, I'm like, I'm sure that was good Kyle who's the weaker and weaker player though that you want them to put in the sides feel for anybody who is because I honestly think that religion is really is the weird like if you can't Just save in my in my world. You can't put bearing because he already went in so there is off the table. All right, you have Kyle who's I think a good player Rogan? I honestly think it's really good. Yeah, just to get a bad outing two seasons ago and they're give a shit about it. I'm over it Joss has made it to a final with Sylvia, right? So so as Kyle and so as po so who's the weak link that Kyle's talking about the I don't sides po I'm not saying feel the weakest. This is the rookie, but he already went in. So I mean, I know he can he can Tenley go back in because he got but I would say that at that point it may be e Juris we know bear from perform. He's proved it. Yeah. Bob said probably say just based on what we want. I just think that everyone and they all have their flaws and their good points. I think they're all even all the guys in the British stuff. Yeah. I think it's either I don't think there's one that's like he's so much better. We have to save him. Yeah, he went in there you earned your stripes good for you, but I don't think it was like this big. I can't bear the thought of me and I'm the I-17 at a 14 a little chat Elimination Challenge, whatever he said about last season feel good. I'm pretty certain you. Did you did fine? Whatever great great great, but I agree with you 1 million percent Kyle. What why didn't they say? Well who then who would you I would look nice in the confessional after our yeah. I don't think he said it that in the in the ring the I want to know the answer to that though to I wonder who they're considering from their perception to be a weak player because it's not like the girls I think faster talking about Esther might be I look like he's not even considered. Does run his mouth lot and that's fine. At least he's showing something a personality unlikely. I thought last season where he didn't really do anything. Right? But like dude, you're you're mad about the whole situation and you're so you're only thing to do is to brag about how good you are dude. That's not going to help. It's making you sound like you're like too cocky almost. Yes, even though it's a fine line right the fine line. I said this for the last aftershow someone is going to get sent in like I don't understand why whenever someone gets sent in they cry. I about it. Like that's the name of the game someone that has to get sentence because they know the chance of them coming back or a 50/50 shot. Most likely in. Those are the best odds. I mean after just mad at the situation, right? Yeah. Yeah, but it would be cool if they were I yeah, someone's going in depth. So get like a champ. Let's let's go to the bar scene because this is fun. Okay a lot of stuff. This is the Cara there's a car seat, but let's start with the the whole not the ninja and Rogan Josh. Our best friends that's just his personality this season. He's best friends with Rogan. Yes, that it broke. We will give us the best friend. Am I even agree with you all night, but I agree with you on that one. Joss is best friends with brilliant. That's right. It's so funny to me because like Rogen's actually kind of a fun character. He's a stripper off. Yeah. That's that's fun. I mean that that I could pull up penis true, but that's cool that you do that bro, and you're not like you want to talk about it. I think this is great and of Course, I love D. So I like that I mean upset that she's getting his D and not someone else. That's all. I'm sorry. I want to be entertained or watching the goddamn challenge with you. I'm starting to come around. I'll give you that. He seems like a cool guy. Yeah, I could have done without the the Buddhist nun. Right and I feel for you Dan. That's a bummer. I know but see you like Dean like you but yeah, that's I mean, we'll see though. I mean I'm rooting for Rogan and I would have actually love to see him go against Theo. Yeah. Yeah great. So yeah ninja and Zack have a quick conversation and it seems like if you didn't have that confessional by Zach, it seems like a legit like I'm sorry about what I did today. But then in the confessional he's like almost going to save so we can get the team back on the board there. So we're good. I don't really give two shits what exactly as the eye. I want to like you every season but you always say dumps like would on and someone Ryan on the chat says did Zach Pop off the juice. He lost all his games this season. He's not real. I'm just relax. Now. Let's get to the craziest part of the bar where there's a highlight the Cara and Josh talk. Now when you first when I first heard I'm like, okay. This is legitimate conversation. Cara seems like they she wasn't crying at first then Josh kept talking about the whole bananas thing and then it really seemed like wow. She's like, oh, you don't know what he's done it being my I thought wow maybe bananas really is being a super dick to her maid bothering her on Twitter or like being a bully and all this stuff and I'm like it's bringing her to tears if I'm starting to feel bad for Cara and then she goes around the corner to be sad. And then Ashley, what did you do Josh and if she's building that with everyone's like run Josh, Dudek me or you know, everyone's like thinking what did Josh do the car and then she gives that look at the camera to show that that I've met I fake tears and I'm doing it for the game and it's like well, I'm sorry Carl but next time. Do that. I'm going to say you're crying wolf and I'm not going to give a crap and feel bad feel like I did tonight for two seconds. There were even tears coming out of her eyes. Like that's how you know, I don't know. I thought it felt legit to me everything. She said was legitimate and had real feeling and validity. Behind it. He commenced Georgia last week to put her in remember in elimination. Do you remember that because it happened last week second. She's entitled to want Johnny in if some crocodile tears come into play during her persuasion. Why is that she doesn't know that. I think my we had frozen pizza and he wasn't from a restaurant. She cried because the team was sabotaging itself and look we all can agree that car takes this very seriously, right? Everybody was given jock I see I'm so T Josh not everybody hates Josh everyone. I like John that girl tonight. He was literally every time he talks like I don't trust Cara I don't trust her. I think she's up to and then she literally had a conversation where he should not have trusted her. Josh was right the whole night her words were accurate and truthful. She said I'm saying bananas. What's not to trust about that? Yes, he did that. All Josh said was can you I think you should reconsider for the benefit of our team and she goes you don't know what he did to me on Twitter off camera to my boyfriend. It's true and you know, she's look what was the face to the camera then the camera was I think here's my a phase 2. Holy like Okay, we'll meet. This is my back behind the scenes made up thing. All right, I think that Josh is a wild card now. He's in limbo. He says he's playing his own game what that is. I have no idea because he takes the stand about nothing but Josh says, he's his own person. He's playing his own game. He's not he is as Zach said the tug of war between the strongest players with was Polly and bananas were using the I'm sorry weakest willed player. I have to say as they're whipping. As they are numbers they needed the numbers on their side and Pauly also has a relationship with him, but it seemed like Josh was still falling under the sway of bananas. So Cara had to make moves to make him realize maybe bananas isn't a great guy so that when they did take him down he would just go lapping back up to his other person which is Polly. So the idea of this episode don't forget anybody ever. And um she put on some fake tears and made made try to make him feel sorry, right? It just it just anti I say but good game for her but it's because it worked and I agreed but it's true to me with cars. She's always saying how everyone's mean to her and knowing like like there and all this stuff cycle car. That's not going to help. That's all I want to say what I want it. Let's get into we are getting oily of ten minutes. Okay? All right, we gotta get I know my we're going to get this tree all night. Let's get into the The Proving Ground die for me. Me the best thing that banana says right when they get there before he even knows he's going in is man. I feel bad for you guys. That's a small cage and then five seconds later. He has to go down and be in that cage. Yeah, every line. Banana said tonight. He didn't got Karma every goddamn time, you know, but here's the thing and you know, I defend bananas, but tonight I will specially defend him because he shot he shot up this episode though. He kicked it was but in the swimming he did very well. Yeah, he had himself. Wow this episode. He like even when we were in that conversation is like I'm just gonna be quiet. I'm just gonna kind of stay out. And then even in the challenge like he kicked but I mean and I will say this Johnny didn't get beat by Theo Johnny beat Johnny. He lost and was weird. You know, what's weird is he had to like confessional before and he said, you know, I just gotta make sure I get these numbers right because I can mix up my Roman numerals. It's like did you just Jinx yourself or was that filmed after right? I don't know which that's another conspiracy because I love throwing him out there. But like how apropos is that that he said it and then did it if it wasn't for that technicality he would have wanted. Whatever you because I was being all you had to do was go to the other side here right here moratorium on calling people screwing up a technicality though. That's not a technicality. That's you messed up. I just didn't feel right, but technically Laurel everyone's like it's a technicality, but you cheated it's not a technicality. It's not a technicality that you jam something weird. Anyway, and I agree that we are we can't get out but they should have restarted that they should have done. Oh stop they should have restarted. What we challenge is okay, not to know ya Tuk. I'm gonna say this team UK has really gotten like these past two challenges by tricky situation. Yeah, and again clearly had those numbers not been wronged and I get that's part of the game. So I understand. Yes the old one but it's not that he beat Johnny because he was Webhead rap beat him by the actual game itself. Like Johnny mess not made his own mistake and beat himself. So realistically if that did not happen Johnny wouldn't beat the out of one. Yeah. Agree with you, but Johnny did a good job tonight and proved himself a great competitor again, which we can forget that he is again with him using the logic tonight. It's like, oh, I'm good for the team. I'm good for the team. It's like so Scara, you know, but whatever anyway, sorry, but with that he is not good at eliminations. I'm sorry Johnny's good when he's got the numbers and he can ride out. That's why he needs those numbers when you say he's not going to elimination. So I saw CT carrying him off. Yeah Johnny does Do great illumination. So he needs to avoid going out of eliminations right now. He's not that great when he first started out. He wasn't good. Then as he became more of a vet. He became really good when he was like winning all those challenges and now that now that he's not in his prime anymore. He's not but first I want to say on this and then we can is I 100 say what we will this that the other thing Laurel and Johnny decided to boldly. Throw a challenge in their own team space. They brought this on themselves. There's nothing they can say for themselves to defend it. When you go against your own team and then not targets put on you. Sorry seeing we've seen others throw challenges and have no issues the next week. That's my boy Shane without my boy but shame because Shane don't like us Shane. He threw a challenge like that football. Petey Nellie now it will have no Partners game not your whole team. There's another team I just I will say this really quick the one thing because we keep saying Karma and oh they got what they deserved blah blah blah. I don't agree with that because they don't have nothing to hang their heads about because they performed both of them performed really well and in my opinion, he should have won so I mean whatever okay, but like I said last aftershow they were just protecting themselves. So that's what they were doing. They were protecting themselves because if they if they didn't do that, then they still probably would have been going on The Chopping Block the fact that they perform so well is the exact reason that they need to be cut out when they declare war. Are you guys kidding me? If someone that's an amazing of Turbo said I'm going in for you then you and you and you had a chance to get out turbo Laurel and Johnny took a stand and we're like we're against you guys we're against who we think Kyle told us is working with Wes. Which is Polly? Kharak am obviously Paulie and Cara are the leaders of that team. They declared open War and said we are gunning for you when it backfired against Johnny when his puppet didn't win and he was down half his puppet Force. He tried to be logical. I'm a good player. You don't want to do this. Well, guess what? They're not that dumb. I don't understand why it's such bold tricky betrayals own car and Pauly do it. But when Johnny does it, it's cool. It's like trust me. Nothing. I don't think Jonathan. This is cool done smart for your own game. You have to play your own game. And when you declare war on a cup, he admitted that Polly made a boss move to the dead dead. Yeah, and I'm back to saying Johnny brought it on himself. You didn't have to go whoa and push so you like the poly move then? Oh, yeah, but you didn't like when Josh did it right? I'm just gonna throw team challenges he Say yes, he said if we lose and it comes down to it, but they didn't know what I was talking about the calling out of a fellow player I'm saying he didn't Josh didn't need to do that. Josh was another person's puppet. Josh was told by Laura. Okay. Polly was Cars puppet. Not true. And you said that Johnny did put this on himself because he I don't think they were after him when this challenge first started. And so I just feel like he put himself in that situation for the magnifying glass to get put on them. So I do agree with you on that until they threw the challenge. I don't think that team West team Wes was ever considering throwing the challenge of turning against their own team until that was declared by Laurel and Johnny. All right, we're not going to do some gossip to make sure we don't have time. I know you guys are upset about that. I'll save them for another time because they are not right now need to be talked about if we have anyone on the phone producer man, Jonathan. Let us know actually while you Hugh someone up I can do a quick know you tweeted it all for you. Nice win for a little quick news things. Do it Wes wrote on his Twitter and this is just a fun one because I thought it was hilarious. He wrote on September 22nd breaking news after a In a test. It's been confirmed that bears father is Puck. If you remember now, we're getting real puppies at regionals the real world. And if you look up Puck and you look up bear, but you look up Puck when he was Bears eggs. Yeah, that'll or Aunt a simpler answer is all the above. The last season Puck was on didn't he spit on someone's face. I remember my side. Yeah. That was yeah. That was the original General John that how we do and we good or what? Yeah, we've got someone on the line caller was know who you are where you're calling from. Yes, Gabrielle Anna from New Jersey. All right to am what's up? See? Yea, wow, thank you. Yes, I like to say I agree with pan. Like I definitely agree with her everything. She said like Johnny brought everything onto himself and he just got what was coming to him and car and Polly were just reacting to what they did by throwing the challenge. No, I agree with him. Thank you. I'm also from New Jersey. I hope very nice. I don't necessarily disagree with that either though. I'm in bananas. Got it coming to him. Sure. Why not? I mean that's not the entire thing. Right? Right. I just feel like banana should have played a game like CT is playing because right now no one's really paying attention to see T. He could have been that's that truthfully could have been the best route. I mean, but it's not bananas to do that. He's gotta hammer time, you know. Yeah, so it's expected of him, but I do agree to he did bring it on himself, of course. Yeah, well, hey the car was crying like it was like you were saying like car was crying that it was like acting and stuff but then Soviet do it and also like just cry all the time. Yes. Oh, yeah. I thought it was funny when she did it but Josh you cry. Josh and Chris is an emotional player. Yeah, I don't feel like you say two things to Josh and then he'll just get pissed off and just voting walk like how he did West so very very much totally. Alright, thank you so much for calling. We appreciate it. Thank you state of it's awesome. Yeah, thank you Jonathan. We have time for one more maybe or what do you think? Yeah. Okay one quick second. We got someone calling in right now. No boy. Hey caller. Let us know who you are. Where you calling from? Hello, it's Marissa from Bay Area California again. How are y'all doing saying good stuff. Is that is that your hello? Hi hi. Oh my God, this episode hurt my head saying you so bummed that that's like top three are out. Isn't that crazy? Yeah. I it's just too soon like producers conspiracy. Just keep them on for a little bit longer, please like we need them. There was a there was a conspiracy out there that the reason they all left was on purpose because they wanted to get to the MTV Movie Awards and accept the award for like the reality show the challenge. So I thought that was kind of a fun conspiracy help purposely had to get off the show and time to get there to receive to accept the award. That's funny. Yeah, do I believe that? You know, I agree it's funny you say that because I was honestly thinking that as I was watching the end of this episode, I was like wow like Wes Gone Bananas gone long. I'm like wow these Heavy Hitters. The oig's on. Yeah, that's crazy. Like who's going to really carry the show now? I mean you got seats. Who else have we lost? We lost Big T 1 episode anybody? Who else am I it's been 5 episode so we should have lost five. That's we're missing one person. We must have lost we lost that guy on the first night the UK guy who Sam, is it Sam? I'm throwing Sam out. Yeah and a female from USA team and to and to just two people from the UK tumor is there of someone were forgetting the 80s and one big T. Sam you good. You gotta yeah, we gotta get going anything else before we go Marissa. Um, I don't like Josh I don't like my big brother ever. He doesn't ask me of a really like painfully crying fourth grader that you just don't like. Yeah, so he can just be quiet because those pots and pans banging on Big Brother was so annoying. He's doing that now. Now I know his strategy he's doing great. But I hate he's so annoying. He also got it. I thought I feel also did well in the hook challenge tonight didn't show a lot of what he did. He was in the three-minute in the three-minute time as well. So he actually did really well and they didn't show any of it. And so now we're its producers a conspiracy producers wanting to us to think that he's not a good challenge participants. He just showed his time like that quick didn't show one thing he did and just and he had a three-minute school, so I'm big brother. I believe he was pretty good at challenges. That doesn't mean he's not annoying and do aisle. I just don't like him as a person like I would eventually ideas that I want to be friends with everyone else like Josh. Well, that's my idea though is that they want to keep him as the annoying guy not the guy that actually can do change on the show. Maybe on Big Brother showed it. I don't watch Big Brother, so I didn't ever I heard you won. So that's good. Dad. Did he was? Yeah. I know I was so angry he won. I'm really sad before you go. Who are you voting for? Are you rooting for now? Who's your Hoosier woman our guy now left? Jordan and Tori because Paulie and Cara are the worst ever. Oh my gosh. I had a Instagram. It was the words follow watching my together. It's a lawyer can be very obnoxious. All right. Well, thank you so much for have a great night. Thank you so much Marissa. Well guys, what a fantastic way. We we just we just drain through 45 minutes you like that guys. You want to thank you guys so much for joining us here and after busting you for the challenge 34 episode 5 in poly We Trust My name is Daniel in green. You can find me at the Dan lingered. Let's go down a line. Yeah, and I am Benny Adams. You can find me on all social media at Benny Jay Adams ever forgotten. Why am I was so I'm Pamela gross. You can find me across social media at Pamela gross Jill and thank you guys. This was a heated live chat. We love having you here. Thanks for tuning in and we hope to hear from you guys next week as always guys. Guys, thank you so much for hanging out this specially for staying up late with us. You can find me. I'm David Christopher on Instagram or fit TV network. 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On tonights episode Paulie lies. Cara Lies. And Bananas Splits. We talk about the Hooked Challenge and why half the cast can't swim. In the proving grounds Theo goes up against Bananas in an unforgettable match! About The Challenge After Show: The Challenge, a mix between Real World and Road Rules Challenge, featuring alumni from the past shows as the contestants compete for a cash prize, is such an insane show, we HAVE to talk about it! That's why we have THE CHALLENGE AFTER SHOW! Tune in here for reviews, recaps and in-depth discussions of the latest episodes, as well as the insider scoop from cast and crew members on the show as we go crazy. It's going to get bananas because there's basically a different guest each week! About The Challenge: It's every player for himself in this edition of the long-running reality competition "The Challenge," which for the first time shuns team play and awards a final prize that could exceed $500,000 to one person. The fun begins with 28 cast members -- fan favorites from "The Challenge" joined by contestants from "Big Brother" and stars from MTV UK's "Ex on the Beach" and "Geordie Shore" -- in Spain looking to settle personal vendettas. In a new twist, players who survive grueling elimination rounds are awarded "Grenades," allowing them a chance to get even with anyone in the house with whom they may have a beef. It adds up to a competition spiced with heightened drama, doubt and deception. ---   This episode is sponsored by  · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. 