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Ooh, I like grew up in The Burbs can't wait to hear but I've only had kids and the city in the city. So look at us grew up in England. So I don't know how much really gonna be a bad design of cities in England. I think you'll find it's nowt but field and cities which is weaned out. Yeah, don't worry about it. Okay. So I actually it's funny because to podcasts ago. We had my time spent with the ride. Yeah, it has been a wild ride. We talked about getting your our lovely lovely spawn to bed to sleep out of the hell of bedtime. So I was listening to the stuff you should know podcast which is a great podcast. I recommend it highly and they were talking about the Sandman and what the origins of the Sandman like this like could put sand in your eyes. Yeah, they took cross and may act and mr. Issa. Mr. Sandman. They brought all those that wow, look at you shouldn't even lighting. Okay. So the best part was is that the origin of the Sandman was to get these little fucking kids to go to bed ran the way to do it is. Hey, and so basically it started in around the say when around the time of this the founding of this country. So 1775 1776. Basically, there was this guy ETA Hoffmann it was German and he wrote something called the Buda salmon because I'm starting to fall asleep. Okay, good Calder Sandman. Yeah, and then they would play me talking to there are Samus is the German exactly German fellow what I just said, so I wasn't listening and how so basically says this is this is the Charming part. So the way in order to get these goddamn kids to go to sleep as the 17th is kids sucked back then they just how much turns out. They didn't need a fucking iPad to be a dick no pair, but guess what? It's like hey, if you don't close your goddamn eyes, here's what's going to happen. During Sandman is going to show up. He's gonna throw sand in the eyes of the children who don't sleep and if you said it ya know if that happen if your eyes are awake, so he throws them to test. Yeah, and he'll take them out. Okay, he'll take your goddamn eyeballs out here and then he'll take him to the moon and feed him to his kids to the Moon. Yeah realm's we're just saying man has run to the Moon he has kids. You think he would know how painful that. Would be to have somebody rip your kids eyeballs out, you know have a little empathy der Sandman. What do you do where you're all over them know, we're Pros understand visual or produce and we're proud of him. I'm sorry on him. I love that guy yet your goddamn eyes closed nice and tight because dress a man's coming this. Okay, but okay and then eventually it morphed into like Premia sweet dream, you know said me and so not like throw sand. Here's a question for you. So so say we say I imagine Santa Claus was already around back then. Yeah, I've been around for centuries. Yes. Wait Coca-Cola invented. I'm sorry. I forgot good call but like once a kid figures out that Santa is actually your dad bringing the gifts down. Does he then also figure out that Sandman is your dad who's going to rip my eyeballs out? I think pretty much scared of Daddy I even more so I think into the 1800s kids probably wised up and was like, actually I think you probably full of shit and there is no right answer that's going to rip my eyes out giving kids a lot of credit. I mean they still leave in a lot of stuff. They believe in Slender Man, that's true and the most challenge which we talked about. Yeah a couple of weeks ago. I happened to actually believe in the moment. Oh do you yeah, we should browse YouTube later and see what happens. That would be great or Chatroulette just see literally just see what happens to see and I have a pretty good guess what's gonna happen casual only if you want that I know anything about it. We don't have to do it's fine. Anyway, so now that I think with the birth of the Industrial Age is what you were saying That's and then I want to bring it back to the end children and their families moving into the city. To the city that was when kind of dirty and man faded away. That's the same way. Yeah exactly because they had to wake up to get their goddamn hands and those cotton exactly. Yeah engines so Pete and I we wanted to talk about parenting in the City versus parenting The Burbs this week. And as I said at the top we both live in the city currently, I've never had kids in The Burbs that anyone knows of That was a great. Jerk. Thank you. No one was but I grew up in The Burbs so I know what it's like I have family still there. Yeah, we were recently in Connecticut visiting my parents for my mom's birthday and my brother is there and his wife and they have a child and we're often arguing about life in the City versus Life In The Burbs. Okay, but they've never experienced life in the city, right so like to my and it's like you wouldn't necessarily you don't know what you're missing right there, but they're or Pros and cons to both sides or as a probably think it goes. You don't know what you're talking about. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Sometimes when we get a buzz on we do we do get angry at each other get me out of this head. They don't understand why we live in the city. So I thought you know, maybe we could use this podcast to explain everybody. Why cities better? Let's do it. Right because we got a lot of feedback from people who both agree and disagree. Yeah, and I kind of agree and disagree. All right. Well, let's let's break it. Why don't we do what we do, you know suburbs first and then we'll go to the city will do so what we're going to To do what are the pros and cons of The Burbs sure. So I grew up outside of New Haven in the something. I like to call the oh range Orange Connecticut. I don't think anyone calls to the overage. No. No, I don't think so. I think I think I think it's gonna happen just like I call Manhattan the hats that has been picked up on yet. But soon. Yeah, I think everyone's pretty much waiting for you to leave the city. Yeah. Well collectively Breathe It Happen depends we depending on where my next job is who? Yeah, you know knock on wood. Hopefully, I'll get a new job and that might happen because Before I had kids I never envisioned and I've lived in cities for 20 years. And before I had kids I never envisioned raising my kids in the city. I always thought y'all get it out when I'm in my twenties or whatever and then I'll go move. Oh really you had it come no, I didn't have it mapped out anything. Just tell me about yeah, okay, just because I grew up in them and I felt like I'd come back to them and want my kids have a yard and all that stuff, but we have found that we love the convenience of the city and all that. It has to offer at your fingertips. Yeah. Yeah, it just a couple of steps down the road. Yeah, we don't have backyard. But we have Prospect Park and Brittany where I live in plenty of parks natural park. You can check that out run a couple laps, right? This is a couple laps because you said you made a couple of jokes on here you like there's no grass in the city and that's obviously untrue. Well, I guess any grass yes of several kinds big time. I'm talking Park Grass. Oh, okay. I'm sorry grass. Yeah, I never grew up in a suburb. Herbs, I only grew up in the city I grew up in London but like London proper like like Oliver Twist. Yeah, like I grew up like all of it. Hello. Guvnah. Would you like me to clean your chimney? Did you have an English accent when you're going up not really not really but it was more just word choice like he'd be like, come on. Yeah. Well you grew up in London when you're so pretentious that's actually one of the things that they train you and yeah, like not pretentious enough anyway choice and their pretentious class. Yes, they definitely do. Robbery 101. Yeah, and then and then of course then there's the lager lout so it my okay got it. You mix it mix it so but you never lived like out in the fields or whatever happens in London. No. No, there's no other London's really big sprawling cement. I'd love to go. Yeah, he thinks I would like it. It's it's really beautiful. It's unbelievably expensive. So there's no reason to stay. Yeah. Well, it's pretty expensive in New York. That's one of the arguments I have with my bro actually not even comparable like London is kinda more everybody calm down. Well, I think really it's Wait, wait. Well, that's one of the things people say is living in the city is very expensive and raising kids somebody mentioned. Who was it the this was probably my somebody mentioned how expensive like daycare is in the City versus like, you know, if you live in in the Farms, You can like leave the kid in the barn. I well, I don't Farm. Yeah, is that somehow? I've seen babe. The only animals that would have friends. It's the O-ring. All right. Well, so let's let's well, so we're kind of drifting into the city, but I want to I want to stand in the suburbs. So what was your suburb and it was like ET it was like riding bikes around everywhere so fucking fun. No helmets back then but we used to dry. Oh shh. So I lived in a nice little town that didn't really have I wasn't like I was near the another town that had a little more shopping area like right near where I was you have to dry ride our bikes on like busy streets down the bike lane down this huge hill across the fucking borderline Highway and then hang out like the kaldor parking lot and the clarity something easily grocery store. And that's where I bought Metallica's Black Album, which has Enter Sandman on it rode my bike down there and bought that I bought Smells Like Teen Spirit, I think about the cassingle. Are you going to list everything? I'm just saying like connected and so a couple people mention this that you know, well, somebody said The Burbs are incredible Open Fields everywhere. What? Yeah, that sounds like the Open Fields everywhere is not quite the burbs unless the fields are full of Walmart's right, which is one of the things that I do when I go back to Connecticut because they don't have them around here. But they have that kind of shit. We rode our bikes everywhere. You're hanging out in your friends yard you go neighbor Dan it you kind of do that my brother lives in Connecticut. Yeah, and that's the big thing. Those kind of on a cul-de-sac in the name of the kids just like they migrate like birds. Yeah, we'll go from house to house its kind of cool. So somebody said that they liked the kids can play safely in the neighborhood. This was recycle. Beauty said, I like the kids can play safely in the neighborhood and but I don't like that. There are packs of kids all over the neighborhood loitering. What is this? Fucking apocalypse? Yeah. Yeah Lord of the Flies on the cul-de-sac. Most of them are playing Pokemon go but everybody says, As you know, it's the neighborhood is the community right which I had. I certainly had growing up like everybody gathers at the same bus stop. We had a path that we carved behind like four or five houses in the neighborhood where you just it was like paved out for bike not paved by like cleared out for bikes to ride through and connect. Everybody did one family whose parents when the kids had to come home for dinner, which is step out on the deck and ring a big Bell. Oh, they literally literally rang about very demeaning don't know shit happens. Got to go home. We got to stop playing so it sounds like a Shawn will you fucking dog versus what at the hey get your fucking ass back home. Now. You maybe the kitchen be responsible enough to know where you're watching Anthony? Okay, how about that? Well, maybe but I'm saying is wide open and you can't be quite as free in the city with that because you're scared of all like the less scary people in the city are so it goes well what people think yeah. I mean I so, I think that that is really what has changed. I think the cities in general have become a lot safer than when they were Were back when in the 80s and sure maybe I guess depending on the city. But yeah, I mean are certainly the neighborhoods. We live in are much much safer than they were. Yeah, I don't really have any concerns right to you. Right and I think that was a big concern and also the one thing that I have is that there's a lot of math and suburbs in The Burbs you're saying there's many I think there's like a lot of math. Yeah, I can tell you right now that's not a shortage of meth in the cities either. Yeah. I just need some meth. Just let me know. I well know where plenty of Is really no. Okay because actually I'm just feeling a little itchy. I just need something to take the edge off. You have too many teeth. I do know that that's the stereotype of the method of problem is I don't have enough open sores on my face does have there so I watched Breaking Bad and was all about math. Don't do a lot of City stuff in that right? So it's in Albuquerque, but like it's not there on the burbs. I mean, look, I'm parenting obviously job of it. Obviously I'm generalizing now, but but I think that my associate Ation with the suburbs having never lived there. So this is the assholes opinion. Yeah, is that Like young like when you started to get into your 1213 teenage years you'd start to look for things that were more and more. Yeah, you want to step outside your bubble a little bit. Whereas in the city it you know, when you're 13, you know taking the subway and doing like all you know, take by yourself going to you know, Manhattan coming back into Brooklyn. Yeah, there's enough of challenges there where you don't necessarily aren't looking to score math. So a couple of people said that like what they This is Mao said What She Likes about The Burbs is this fewer people. It's quieter and there's more parking now. So we briefly lived in Brooklyn for five-year like the more parking part. We didn't break for five years without a car and then we moved to Raleigh for a year and a half and had to get a car there because Raleigh's not really a city. It's you have to drive everywhere. There's no real centralized downtown. It's kind of small. It's a liberal and stuff which I was a little worried about before we move but that wasn't the issue the issue. Is that fucking the CVS closed at 1 o'clock on Saturday and didn't open until Monday this is the downtown Raleigh CVS. I got when I noticed that I was like oh shit, so we are only there for like 16 months and we realize they're like we didn't like the the more Suburban lifestyle. But yeah having to drive everywhere and people say that to like they love the city because you can walk which is one of the things we love about it. But you drive everywhere. It's one of the reasons we America is so fat. We drive too much. You just you really wanted to that seems like you were building up to that my punchline America still had that's the next day. We're Obesity epidemic that we're that's coming up in a couple episodes and people say that again people say it's comforting to have a community, but you can have a community in the city. Yeah, I so that's I think I'll just check just check your wife's Instagram. It's all about her community. That's correct. She loves posting about very invested. She loves the kids and meteorology string which talked about before she fucking loves weather reports everything to do with the weather's in Brooklyn has hurt you if everything's yeah and so but the cities are safer now and So if you have statistics, yeah, there's all sorts of Statistics. It's yeah, it's like let's see the mert. Yeah crime rates per capita. They're all down. Well, well, let's see them. I don't have them. I mean, I have a computer here, but I don't know how to use it. I know it's just a prop. Yeah, and this thing I got it. Yeah, I got it a 5 and but you were saying that sometimes they step outside, you know to get a little taste of something different and people have said that to you're talking about meth but a lot of people are kind of like they get sick of the boring I tripped. Balls and everything looks the same and it gets somebody said there's just there's not any diversity that I think that's kind of a big one too. I really felt was it like in England? Yeah. Well London is very diverse. It's it is diverse. It is diverse, but it's it's one is different because it's very class-oriented. So it's less it's less about well, it's not less about it. There's definitely a race component, but it's more more about the class component. Whereas here in the states. If you're in the suburbs, you're kind of in a group of folks. Yeah, generally that are socioeconomically the same. Yes, and not as diverse. Whereas in the city. You really couldn't imagine really get a everybody's all around doing everything bouncing up and down, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I just said. No, no, no one didn't make any sense. But I think that that's good. I think like growing up with people who are very different from you. Well, let's get into what the perks the pros and cons of the city are right. I mean, so the I would say goodbye grows in the suburbs and I would agree with that. And because I've seen my face is the space I likes and the kids flocking for one state is really cool. And I don't think that matter that that week everyone's around like I think with like screens and stuff even that there's probably less of that right you stay in your house a little bit more right communicate that way you don't have to like go to your buddy's house. Well there is and so I believe that the suburbs are kind of really good for a sweet spot, you know, maybe between 6 and 4 and age, you know what I mean? Age because after 12, you know, you're kind of trying to do your own thing and what not. Do your kids take the subway alone? No, but my daughter takes the subway everyday to the city from Brooklyn their umbrella hat to know that a No-No to New York men to the a city called the hat so buddy on this kind of impact is that please everybody was just down at the end game of the podcast actually, this is a Trojan horsing. The my my random slang. Yeah, but she will soon so she's going to school by her eyes. She she goes to school by herself. So she walks was it like 15 blocks by herself to school in the morning or with friends rather and that's cool and she's just started this gown that she's a she's in sixth grade. So and I feel that that's good. I think she should do it and it Fosters Independence Foster's independent. Also Foster's awareness. Are you a free range parent? No, but I so when I grew up in the city I would take Take the bus the public transport to school at what about the housing 11? Yes. It was a to take me to yeah, I know a lot about it not London. I took the 1922 to Soho. What's that was your school in the Soho area now is st. John's Wood. Well nights Persian st. Johns River. Was it near the Thames? Nope? No. No. No, it wasn't. Just seeing what other yeah, but is terms I can remember. Yes at this point. You never really opened up to me about your childhood. That's right because I like to shut it down shut it all down we get it out, but No, so I like that. I like that Independence it Fosters, you know the ability to do thinking to do think The Fosters the ability to do thinking too. You know, I think you certainly don't in your house with that kind of fucking know what's going on my brain. What brain to what brain their Sandman got at you that's true. Does it make you does the prospect of her taking the Subway by herself make you nervous? No, it doesn't. When was the first time you took the subway. You just said you were like six know I was I was probably like 10. Where did your wife grew up in Connecticut? Didn't you know she grew up in Philly outside Philly? All right in line, but outside though, not in the city not well not in no not in this and then she went to school in Upstate New York. So I'm wondering when was the first time she like hung out in the city like during college. Yes, probably like the Summers you guys said the live in the Hat? Yeah, and I just again I think the experience is you get just interacting with different people. So again, it's not just it's not just the Friends that you're making at school that are different. It's also the people that are you're interacting with like Quite literally the people in the subway are their own, you know, you don't entity. Yeah well and and in a good and bad in the very best and literally the very worst. I've seen some of the very worst. Yeah and but to be able to understand how to how to manage that and to cope and figure out what's going on one time. I saw a guy on the subway, he's just he was wearing sweatpants and no shirt and he was just repeatedly pushing the sweat pants down and then back up just hit many that he got off the train it was like Walking like Frankenstein doing that see some some freaky stuff. Oh really? What about Birdman? You remember that guy? I don't think so. Well who's Birdman here like feathers all over him? And oh, I didn't that guy Scream. I don't think it was a little drag that was early in the morning. I tell you anyway. Yeah, the guy in the white van driving around offering you candy. Well, that's I think it also the Slenderman. I think he's a Suburban. Yeah, I sperm kind of guy. I feel like there's more sort of hidden date. Whereas in the city if seems to me that there's like the people that are very strange are kind of out in the open in the right there like Birdman or whatever government his pants down whatever. Yeah how you manage, you know how to deal with that. Yes how to fucking get off whereas you can go and get a good be more surprised by the nefarious things that are happening in a bird right where he caught off guard. Yeah. I mean, it's just just really pretty soon. You got to watch more David Lynch because he's a really poking at the underbelly of the American dream in the Suburban life see blue velvet the first scene shows guy watering his lawn and then it goes real close up down to the bottom of the grass and there's like festering bugs fighting each other. Yeah. It's a really a kind of a David Lynch in the microcosm right there. He should check out that movie Blue Velvet great cool good times just clamps to off as I talk about some fucking you don't like David lean's anyone else have a pot Mulholland. Because this is maybe the best film of the century. Everybody needs to grow up. Most of all Pete Anderson. Okay. All right. So look, it's a very divided. Obviously. I didn't ask I should have done a poll and maybe I will to see where most of my listeners live where most of our listeners live in the city or the Birds because got a lot of people who said they live in the rural suburbs which is or country living which is kind of like where my wife grew up in the middle of absolute nowhere and western Pennsylvania. I've been through there it is. There's nothing and then they moved to outside of Charlotte and then she became kind of a city person which is one of the reasons we're still there but like black velvet stitches says she lives in the rural suburb and she loves because they've go-karts and front outdoor toys, but nobody nearby for my son to play with you have to drive everywhere which that gets old. We have a car now because we have the car from Raleigh and even we lean on it a little too much just because we have it and the neighborhood were in is a little bit further out, but we don't have to write and you just The subway. Yeah, when you want to get get hammered, that's a big plus of City living right you what happens if you don't have to drive somewhere to drink. Yeah, I mean certainly drinking is I mean not drinking and driving is huge especially when it is it is very important whether you live in the city or the suburbs folks but having play dates that are around the corner. Yeah having kill my son is that one right now? He's a playdate. Yeah, you know being able to walk there and have friends right around the corner is great. I mean, that's what I mean. You have that in the burbs to I just maybe not the real Oh suburbs like my best friend growing up by all the kids. I played with were literally the houses next door to my house and like down that street and there were a bunch of kids. So like you live in the city that you may or may not have a lot of kids who live near you which is kind of luck of the draw sometimes. Yeah, my like my son goes to a school. That's not a district school, right? So it's a little bit. It's a few neighborhoods away and kids from all over the place go to it, right? So they're not just kids in our neighborhood. Like when I growing up in the suburbs were all on the school bus, we're all going to the same school, you know for 10 years. Yeah, I think that that speaks to the somebody said they live in a very small town and that's one of the worst things about it. Is that while you can walk everywhere. Everybody knows me. This is funky feet who I believe is Barbara Geiger are are one of our patrons. Yeah. Oh cool. She's from a small town. She can walk everywhere, but everybody knows me and then like it's like Groundhog Day like everyone's coming. Can you guess what like it's kind of all the city you don't talk to anybody. Yeah your people but nobody cares if you're rude, especially New York City. It's not rude just like it's not rude at these put up your barrier. It's Trude it's you're trying you're just trying to go somewhere. Yes, you have a things to do people in The Burbs don't have anything to do and it just it when you when you stop short suddenly when you're walking. Yeah, you deserve to be you'd have died God. I hate a slow Walker the city just just while you just pull up to the side. That's all you got to do. Just pull up to the side. Yeah, if you don't know what's going on, just move over Mama Bluey. Actually when I asked this question Instagram, I was wearing my favorite scarf and she just she just shout it out my scarf. That was her comment that scarf. Right. She didn't put a picture of like a drooling face afterwards, but I'm pretty sure so she met. So thanks Mama blue. I like my scarf to maybe it was like a like a like a vomit Emoji as well like that God. That's so gross that scarf that you were wearing. I mean, that's how I was feeling. So I mean, have you seen the scarf? Yeah. It's fucking wonderful. It looks like a blanket cozy. Yeah. It's pretty big like I did have you ever seen that picture of Lenny Kravitz wearing a scarf. It literally looks like a blanket. That's what you have it like. Yeah. I know. I did a picture of myself side by side. It's actually pretty funny. I'll send it to you since you're not on Instagram. You're too cool. Yeah, just mail it to me. Now like the snail mail. Yep as they call it using the post office lesbian. I'll get there a couple of weeks cool. Make sure to look out for it. So let's talk about another big thing in the city is all of the stuff that happens in the city. So you get museums. Yeah that mean culture the culture. Yeah events. I think I think that's a big part of it certainly in this city in Brooklyn and New York. Well, how about this one? How about in this week? We experience this in Raleigh or lack thereof of good takeout food or delivery New York City you get anything you want. We if your guess what if you're one of those parents that will get you want your kid to eat no matter then you maybe you get different meals for everybody you can do that. You can get like five different meals from five different places on the same night and have them all get delivered to your house technology. Yeah, right. I mean if you're a huge asshole for sure and yes, like I'm just saying totally you can rally it was hard to get good. Good pizza. No, I don't want to make this a New York vs. Everywhere else. Yeah else thing but in the suburbs, especially like there's just a little Choice. Yeah Chinese food, right? The choices aren't as much I but I but one thing, you know, my four year old loves the Natural History Museum. Yeah, so does my you know, and really get your let me go, you know, whenever I want and you go track them. Well little easier for you. It's a little easier for our for me, but we still got 45 minutes on the train you generally Only the time to go is in the off all through the winter when it's a we're going to do here a travel guide see the Pete's guy to New York. Yeah, what else is from now? You don't want to do it in the blazing hot sun or maybe that were the winner. I don't know depends away from maybe you want to maybe you want to either way. You should definitely give this is awesome. But you can go to the Museum of Natural History when you live in The Burbs, no not unless you drive and you pack some shit and what's fun is you can you can kind of space it out. You don't have to like, you know take in the whole. Yeah, right you go you go because you can come back whenever you want because you live in the city with public transportation is nice and and culture at your fingertips. Yeah, which is cool. Right? Yep. Link is no culture in The Burbs. Obviously Lincoln Center's right there. Have you been to Lincoln Center recently recently know it's really an excellent like the architecture like the space the physical Space is really can. I tell you something really cool. They brought a blanket Center. So I was at my parents last weekend in The Burbs Suburban, Connecticut, and I heard this story before but I wanted to get the facts straight. So my dad when he was when he was first 40th birthday my mom took him to Opera for the first time right in Lincoln Center in the middle of the Opera. They stop it. It's like 4:00 or 5:00 in the afternoon. They stopped the Opera and then cold beer here. No, they stopped the operator tearing up in the middle of the Opera and announced to the crowd that the United States hockey team has just beaten Russia in the Miracle on Ice. No one Opera Crowd Goes Nuts really? Yeah, my dad February 8th his 40th birthday. You little fucking cool that it's a really cool story, right? Okay, nothing to do with burbs versus the city, but you brought up Lincoln Center. It's a A cool story because why America USA do you believe in miracles? I believe in Kurt Russell. Oh God that HBO documentary about the team is so much better than that movie. It's so good. It's one of the best sports documented I've ever seen careful. He's a National Treasure. I don't dislike Kurt Russell. Yeah, you do a lot of Kurt Russell fans here. No, I'm the one who showed my kid Big Trouble in Little China. What are you doing to preserve Kurtz Legacy nothing. I'm keeping it for myself. Yeah. It's not sharing her with a nobody. That's a really Ian Rand. Way to go. Yep, what else we got? I don't know Julian Gillian Summers was talking about what you said. Does it more activities in the burps and more Community or more activities in the city, but in The Burbs of more Community Connection, yeah. Okay. I think that that he lived in the rural communities in the city, you know, maybe I think I there's definitely Pros like I say, I think that there's there's a range though. I mean, there's like a really nice age range where I feel like we're the suburbs would be better. Verbs with you better. I mean, I think about every time I go underneath the BQE and I just I'm like, what the fuck? Yeah. Well, yeah. Well, that's the thing you do. Sometimes you do get really annoyed. How many people are are when you're like packed into a bunch rain pushing my kid in a stroller. There's like broken glass and pair of Underpants and them, you know, like what the fuck is going on. Yeah. I mean, why did your wife leave that out there? I don't know fucking disgusting. What was she doing? Why would she bring so this is what the here you go. Here's what Platinum says. He says he lives in San Francisco. He loves all the availability of museums and can go to Each in Parks, but he hates seeing dog shit or I guess just ship and needles it doesn't like seeing needles. Yeah. Well, I mean me neither. No, I'm not. Well that's that goes along with what I was saying. You know, I mean there is there is it gets oppressive in some in there are times and places that where like when you're walking on the sidewalk and the wet drip from somebody's window unit air conditioner falls on your head. I'd be like, what was that that when you're young it's usually happens in the Hat a lot. Yeah, right or when you can walk down. Down the street and identify whether it's urine or or air conditioner drink. Yeah, you start to get good at that or when you see like vomit on the wall of the Subway or something. Oh careful, honey. Don't touch that that yeah exactly. He sees it away. But I do like I'll point out rats like if it's rest on the subway. Yeah, but the tracks of went out to my kids check those things out fun to look at. Yeah fun. It's like by the time they're intelligent they say rats. Hmm. Especially when like Pizzeria suit and go on the subway. It was a suit. Yeah, like commuting routes like just people like wow that was terrible as tortured attempt at some kind of analogy. I don't even know. I'm the worst. Okay. Yeah something. Yeah. So let's see we I think that's I think we got it right where we yeah, I think about crushed it. I think that's probably the best job we've ever done about anything in our entire lives. What do we not just podcast We hugger no touch. 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