Hey, this is Jason overcome Redmond. Thanks for tuning into the Jr. Overcome show. If you love this show we would love for you to do us a huge favor. Go to iTunes subscribe leave a five-star review. Leave a comment and share with your friends. Everybody wants to be on top of the problem. Nowadays is people want to get dropped off at the top of the hill. There is that I overcome mindset that makes all the difference either way. We're taught is you're going to call going to scratch. You're gonna bite you're gonna dig you're going to do whatever it takes to. Get to the top of that mountain bad unequivocally is how I have managed to keep myself moving forward and finding success to seals One mission the Jr. Overcome show. Hey and welcome back to the Jr. Overcome show. This is episode 17. We are here in lovely, Virginia Beach, Virginia. I'm sitting at speaking of lovely. I'm sitting across from the lovely and talented and muscle-bound Ray. Cash care what's up, brother? Welcome back to the show episode 17 first. Thank you for the lovely comment. I appreciate it. I'm here for you. I want to look pretty for you today. And I'm just you know me man. I'm happy. I'm here. I love doing this with you and every day is a blessing. So let's get to it while you know, you know, you look good because you have good hair in a good beard. And apparently I just want to let everybody know. These are the pre-qualifications to be a good seal. Some people ask me about that the other day and they said Said what does it take to be a seal? And I said good hair. It's it if you are bald or you missing hair you need to go join the Army just letting you know now for those of for those of my brother and that had hair and lost it their grandfather did exactly there's a waiver there's a waiver. Hey, you know in the teams that as long as you make it in the door, there's a waiver for everything after that Trish made me cut the beer down. This is actually the trim fine beard. I actually she was telling me she doesn't like me want to have clean cut she doesn't Shadow and now, I guess she doesn't like the beard so I don't think she likes my entire face, but I'm working at it. There's no keeping her happy but you know, I'm trying I've got some things coming up. So I've got to keep the beard. Yeah. Hey man, you got a rocket, you know, the long-haired Admiral likes me with longer hair. Although my hair grows so quickly, you know, it gets out of control. But you know one of these days I'm going to rock the Fabian locks. I'm just going to do it. I'm just going all in so all right. We'll listen. We got an amazing show today. I got to tell You we have an absolutely incredible guest I am just absolutely just stoked to have this individual on I'm not going to let the cat out of the bag yet real quickly. I just want to tap into what we have going on Ray. You actually just finished a big event man. That's tell me about it was just down in Austin, Texas at Rogue American Apparel. Yeah, the great nation of Texas salute Our Guest is actually from the great nation of Texas. See how I put oh I plug those well done. Well playing God Bless, Texas put on my Camps for about eleven individuals and actually which I can't get into right now, but I've got a big project coming up that I had to audition for and you see the quotes I did air quotes going on. I got a big stuff coming for my man. And you guys are going to get a taste of that sometime later in the year. It's going to be awesome. I'm continuing Rock forward with my overcome book, which will come out in December and the Overcome Army group coaching program is really going well. I've got people that are signing up. They're loving it. So that's what we got going on. But without further Ado, I want to jump right into our amazing and lovely and talented guest many of you know, this incredible individual. Her name is Taya Kyle and Taya comes from the great nation of Texas. She actually originated from Portland, Oregon and went on throughout. Her life and met her lovely husband a teammate of Ray and eyes Chris Kyle the legend himself who became the most decorated sniper in American history and obviously a legend in the SEAL Teams. Just an amazing guy. I actually met Chris after my injuries and we became friends and did several events with him and Taya and got to know them over the Years and just an amazing guy a teammate a father and an incredible husband and friend and obviously so many of you know, the story of what happened with Chris when his life was cut short in February of 2013. And you know, I talk so much about life Ambush is and how these things can absolutely devastate you and Taya Kyle is a hero of mine because she when I talk about getting off the Acts there are those individuals who just moved slowly away from it. There are those individuals who get stuck on it forever. And then there is that small group who use this Ambush Point as a launch point. They don't just survive it they Thrive from it and they set the example to everyone around them and Taya Kyle has done that. She is gone forward and set the example for so many wives and so many Americans all across the country. She is a patriot. She is a just a steadfast Christian lock solid and her faith. She believes in the greatness of this country. She has written two books American Wife and now just came out with her brand new book American Spirit which profiles 30 stories of incredible everyday Americans that are out there and making a difference. It is our great honor to have you on the show Taya Kyle. Welcome to the Jr. Overcome show. Amazing. That's that's quite the introduction and I don't know if people are to be able to see the video or not, but I got to tell you I'm looking at you talking about your hair and I'm seeing a man bun in your future. I think you could rock it, you know, I do notice you are kind of rocking the bun and I obviously your hero of mine. I would totally Rock a man Bond and say I'm rocking this for Taya Kyle. Yeah, I think that'd be amazing. And today I want to let you know there's not there's not a whole lot of things that you know, go, you know, like big and me don't go together for almost anything but when it comes to introductions, I do big as your tongues - yeah. Yeah. That was The Man Behind trouble. But yeah, well, like I said big introductions, that's all I got. No, she said she's happy if what I heard. All right. Well, obviously, I love it the that was that we're going she was paid to say that. Yeah. She was yeah chucks in the checks in the mail to checks in the mail. Hey, did you say you have a talker can't I have a conquer? Yeah cocker spaniel. Not a dog. What what type of dog do you have? I have a conquer CEO NQ u q Yu ER, excuse me. I had to make sure I can spell mode and word. But yes conquer not Co CK H. ER. Yes, ma'am. You need to enunciate that Co cker. There's no h yes. Yes, it's my seven points of becoming the master of yourself becoming overcoming and conquering everything amazing. So tell we're so excited to have you on the show. And as everyone knows we have our word of the day the focal point of the show everything we build this show around and I reached out to you earlier. And I said Te'o what would be your word and without hesitation. You let us know that your word would be endurance. So as we do in every show Ray is Going to give us the definition of endurance and then we're going to jump into we're gonna have a little bit of a discussion of why endurance is such a strong word for you and what it means so Ray. Yeah Mr. Cash would you do the honors? I will this word really resonates with me. I actually showed you the definition because it was so powerful. It was foul for what we're doing. So it's the factor power of enduring and unpleasant or difficult process or situation without giving way which I think pertains to our guests on just so many different levels. Absolutely. We're and read the read the sub description. I thought it was perfect. You ready? She was close to the limit of her endurance. I mean that's straight out of the dictionary incredible reading this right off the dictionary. It's like they made this word as it pertained directly to you. So I was like, wow. Yeah. I've never read the definition of it and I loved it says without giving away right exactly without giving away. Yes, ma'am. So tell why is this so A focal point of you why you know, we all have our words. Mine is overcome yours obviously became endurance so I would love to hear that because endurance has so many different meanings when you really get into it. We think about physical endurance and mental endurance emotional endurance all these different things the ability to withstand that tension under strain and you have lived that through some really really hard points in your life. Why is this word mean so much to you and how do you relate that to so many of the listeners that are Are out there. Yeah, you know, it's a great question because honestly before you ask me, I just you know, that's not a word that that I would have had come to mind until recently and I my faith is a big part of who I am and I realize there's that verse in the Bible that says treat your trials and tribulations with great joy because they will produce endurance and other things or something to that effect and I was thinking that's crap. You know that that you don't who's gonna treat their trials and tribulations with great joy and yet I'm at this point in my life. for this endurance word is like you said, it's something I didn't even hesitate with because I realized there's a long game to life that you know, I if you talk about fight-flight play dead, you know, I'm in the fight pretty quick and I've learned the beauty of endurance the long game and and letting yourself not be afraid of what's to come know that you can endure it and also when things aren't going as fast as I want or I'm not healing as fast fast as I want the endurance is what I need. I need to I need to know that this is you know, it's a longer game. It's a marathon. Amen. So, you know one of the things I mean, obviously we loved interject humor into the show and Andrei and I both talked about, you know, we knew Chris and and being married to Chris alone probably took some endurance. So because we know how we are I mean amazing. You're probably probably Just Tires people out. Well, the funny thing is is I you know, I know a lot of Team guys wives let me finish and I always ask him the same question. What's it like living with so and so and it's fun. Because they all say the same thing he is a major pain in the ass. So, you know people know Chris on this level of you know, he's a hero, he's American hero and I'm not taking anything away from him but daily life. I mean, I know he had his imperfections and there's got to be funny stories. I mean, so I want to be able to resonate with the audience and you know, what was it like, I mean was he a typical team guy pain in the ass? Did he get under your skin? I mean, I got me and my wife got into it yesterday and at Target and people thought we were arguing. And I was just picking on her. I mean because I am I'm annoying. So was he like that? Did you guys bicker? What was it? Like, okay. So, you know, it's really fascinating because you are right and that is a big part of the community, but I have to say, you know, I don't want to disappoint you guys but the thing I would say to Chris is it had to be you because you're the only one that could put up with me. Okay. So I was the handful probably a little bit more so but was the even a total prankster and he was funny he had this incredible. Bubble softness to him when it came to me and he wasn't he was a great cuddler. Oh, wait a minute. What's that supposed to have had? Sorry. What happened? Well, I did notice that when you were talking about him in the beginning. Did you realize you said and then she met her lovely husband Chris Kyle you actually called in lovely lovely realize that came out of your mouth. Well, that's because he is I mean I told you is a great cuddler. I mean, come on. He called me beautiful. He called me beautiful. Full yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Listen, there's a soft side all of us. I mean Dakota Meyer posted a picture. Did you see the post that Dakota put up like yesterday him in Turkish? Yeah. That's a picture of Dakota holding a puppy and Marcus is like cuddling both Dakota and the puppy at the same time it both both excited me and frighten me astray did that Ray had like his little dog the other day like you put Instagram out on it. Yeah. Yeah. It said you have to let's be real for just a second. You have to be you have to be a a lover of Innocence to be a warrior and a fighter of evil. I don't think one can be the other unless you're a sociopath right? I agree. So I think that's the really big misconception of people that I think sometimes the more you're willing to fight and sacrifice your life for something the more you actually recognize the preciousness in is that a word preciousness? You just made it a word Webster's just added it to the dictionary in its endurance and preciousness. But you know, I think that you know, Chris loved puppies and he never hit a horse and you know, these things that are I've watched some people try to take on his Persona and represent who he is and it's almost comical to watch and sad really because I realized they actually don't know what it is because what they come off as is threatening and bravado and all these things. I think that's not it if you really know what you're doing. If you're really confident you really are a badass Warrior. You don't have time or desire for all that other crap. You know, who You are exactly you don't have to project that. I mean, I think some people have that image. I mean some of the most badass seals that I know I mean I can I want every just pointed out. Yeah, of course. I love you bro, but it wasn't I wasn't who I was thinking of so there there is a retired seal and you know this guy but he literally is probably one of the baddest-ass shields. I know he's married to anyways, I'll tell you off camera, but he is the nicest guy. Ever meet Chris came across that way when you hung out with him and that's one of the greatest things I loved. I don't know how you feel about the movie. We can talk about that and the way you know, Hollywood always takes different directions and you know, there's some things you like. Maybe there's some things you don't but I tell you for me as an outsider watching it as a guy who's watched a lot of seal movies that I don't like they Hollywood certain things up and things like that the thing I love the most about that movie is they showed The Human Side of who we are some of these Hollywood movies show this these Achilles Warriors, you know, they picture off his guys who are sitting in a dark room sharpen a knife. Like we're just praying that combat is going to come and that's just not the case. I mean, you nailed it with that side and I felt that way in the film. Yeah, and you know, it's interesting you say that I haven't shared this I don't think with anybody else. So this is exclusive to you. Why are you here on the chair on the converse show? Yep. Yep. It's that you're already getting into my the depths of my soul. But you know when we first met Jason Hall Is the writer of the American Sniper movie it was at a ranch and Chris was there and he just didn't have much to do with Hollywood and all that stuff. He never wrote the book because he wanted attention he wrote it because other people we're going to write about him and he thought if he did it, he could show his flaws and he could show the guys he served with right. It was very humble thing. So in this guy comes out saying he wants to do a movie. Chris is wasn't giving him much attention or anything and he the guy literally Jason who's a very good friend of mine now called his wife and said, I think I'm just gonna go home. This guy obviously wants nothing to do with this and at that time Kristin called and asked if I could bring the kids down to the ranch and so I walked up and he said the minute I saw him with you and the kids. I stopped. I text my wife and I said I'm going to stay because I saw there was more to this guy than was meeting. And yeah, and so that it's interesting and probably divinely orchestrated that they was able to see that right away. And that's where he knew the magic was. It wasn't just another Warrior. Nobody needed another Warrior movie. They needed to know Who's the warrior off and on the battlefield was that Dynamic like and what is the home life like in Chris? And I knew that the only value to doing this is represent the community. It's not wasn't really ever our story. It's all of our story. Yeah. Absolutely. I think that's what's so important. I mean coming from this community oftentimes you have individuals who speak on behalf of the community and obviously, we're like wait a minute not everybody believes in that but to represent us as more than just Warriors. I think this one of the biggest things that I've tried to explain to people to make it relatable, you know your yes you were a seal and it is a critical component of who you are and it translates into your family and your kids grow up in this culture. But at the end of the day, you are still a member of a community and you are a father and a member of a church and and a husband and all these different things. We were all these different hats and I think that's what's so important to show and really I've coming full circle it is that long-term endurance of All the different strains you have on you as an individual whether it's a military wife or whether it's that Warrior. Yeah who has to find those different areas and be strong in all those areas, right? And you are damned to add to this. I'm going to give you another exclusive that I've never said, but you know while we're on that topic there is somebody I won't name names but this dude is like a caricature. Okay, and he has is monetized Chris's name. I've chosen not to fight it. He thinks he represents the community and so many people out in the world think oh this guy is really what it's about because they'll put on that kind of a show and it drives me nuts because you know, he's gotten, you know, quite a name or made quite a name and I think it's jumping off point was Chris and you know, this guy wouldn't even carry the casket right? He's gonna represent. I can't I can't put walk with the casket but not carry it and you know what? I didn't know why you know, there's there's a lot more to that. I won't get too into the weeds here, but there's nothing that pisses me off more than somebody that tries to be that I picture the Tune drawing all the character and I go that's that's disgusting because we're going to use all these things and act like you care, but you're not a Redman, right? You're not the guy that actually had the heart to get in there and roll up the sleeves and do something for people who look a little deeper and talk about what people are on a human level. Not just you know, this all this Warrior. I just want to see whether they believe it's the Persona that after project and because I've even had people tell me that they're like, hey Jay you knows. You should get out. You need to be more hard. You need to be more whatever and I'm like listen, man. That's not me. I can only be true to myself and this is who I am, you know, love me or like me. I'm going to represent me and you know what I believe in but spanking your the best to do it. I won't stay on this topic, but I do want to say this that's why you are one of the best to do it and that's why I think Chris was the best to do it because that's the majority of the guys. You just won't hear from them, right because they're humbly going about their business loving their family and doing the warrior job without having people have to see them in a certain way. So I think we need people like you to do that. So I have a question and I agree with you wholeheartedly. I wish I knew who we were talking about because I want to kick his ass, but I want to get back to the movie because there's something I've actually I wanted to ask you this one, you know, we actually met at Shot Show at a party a few years ago. You were surrounded by everybody and I want to ask you but what was the conversation you and Chris had when because I don't know how things work. This is how things work in my family. My wife is the brains of the operation and from I've I've met Chris before and bitch and again, I mean this in the in the most respectful way I can you seem like you're a very intelligent woman. You know, I'm like, I'll run through the wall. My wife is the kind of person that says you're through the door. My wife will go. Let me see if the door is open. So what was the conversation one that you had with Chris going over the thought process for the movie and to the question that everybody wants to know were you pleased with the movie? Yeah, it's a great. It's a great question. I was very pleased with the movie. I think that they hit on all the right things as far as the Warriors in general. They they were able to strike that note where you got to know Chris because Bradley portrayed him so beautifully and you were able to see what the life is like for all Warriors. So we've heard the most extraordinary stories of people coming out of that movie and reading the book and talking to their families where they had never talked before. So I think that was beautiful. I think Bradley got his humility. That some of his his like I said, so it's something about his face and the way he carried himself and he picked that up in such a way that people who know him well felt it was almost scary to watch it. And I think that that sets off I also think Bradley was really open to accessing the soul of Chris and and anything that you could receive from the other side, you know, he openly brought that in so I think that's cool. You know things didn't happen necessarily in the timeframe the same way because you can't do that in the movie. Yeah. And some of the things had to be condensed and so we have gained a little bit of the details because the feelings right because feelings were right and and we did the thing that's missing from the book and the movie and it has to be missing because there isn't time is the mischievous laughing part of Chris that was ever present. You did not see him without a twinkle in his eye and you didn't see him without him scheming to do some kind of prank like when you said being in the ass, I know I sidestepped to say I'm probably the pain in the ass, but you were asked For funny things they were constant and that's one of the things I miss the most is just laughter. I mean we did things like we were bit he brought the kid out and me and I needed that and we would do things with our kids and we know we're just rebellious and like naughty got him, you know, just laughing about things like I mean one night at dinner is my son was learning like Peck document or whatever and he remember what it was. It was some cuss word that we were using, you know, like we were given acronym and laugh and our butts off and did they teach you this or whatever and the kids are like Is it what is it? You know we're looking at each other who really shouldn't tell them what it is. Yeah, so make him promise not to use this our kids are like really mature, I guess because we had that part those two but I did have a funny story. I could tell you he's to take a minute to tell us no or Sunday. Yeah. Okay. So it's one of my favorites again. Not one I've ever shared publicly. So we had this bachelorette party for a friend of mine and we're having it at the house and put This is like listen, I'll let us before kids and he was I'll go downtown and hang out with some of the guys or whatever while you're doing that. It's okay. Great. So some things went down downtown that were not good and there were some Sirens, you know in the background and so he had to get out of town very quickly. And so he calls me and says babe. I'm sorry' like some stuff went down. I didn't anticipate I gotta I think I gotta go downtown any one of you know from the party. Was that okay if I come home like of course, it's her house someone home, but he felt very awkward about coming into this. Throw a party situation, right? So he came in a few of us were in sleeping bags. And what was then the office in the house and he was telling me what happened and I was like, oh that's fine and go to sleep. Whatever next morning we get up and that's it was on the second floor and the girls I could tell her waking up close and I go get coffee ready and I look at him and I said they just stay here just sleep and and I thought it was doing this big favor to let him sleep in and close the door we go downstairs. We have coffee about an hour goes by right. Right now and a half something. I was thinking usually he's up by now. I better go like check on him. Just see if you need anything. I walk up and the doors close so I can open the door. I walk in no Chris, but the window is open and the screen is gone right where in the heck is Chris right? And so I'm looking around it. Looks like he jumped out the window off the roof. I'm gone you guys have you seen him? No, no be seeing so I call him and I got any is like Hello like that right? Like where are you? I make I think it's Caroline's he goes over the cafe. Now, you're at the cafe. Yeah, why because I had to take a piss and get coffee and we never came back. I never came back at your house. What are you talking about? He was why I know I don't know if you guys are like dress or like, you know, and I know you mean like we're in g-strings having pillow fights like in the movies. Well, that's exactly Exactly what we picture when it's a bachelor party. I mean, that's what I think of. Yeah, I'm not going to nothing but feathers and lingerie. Yeah, literally what in his mind was happening and he didn't think it would be appropriate and he thought since I said just stay here and sleep that I was telling him don't come out because apparently were in like, you know, having the extension of her bachelorette party that's like my body downstairs or whatever. I just thought that was so him right is like that is trying to be innocent but also going to jump off the roof and we had just moved there. So he goes you might want to tell the neighbors because I'm pretty sure You're sleeping with somebody beside the crawl out. But there I was that severe I was story that's what the neighbors for so someday the neighbors are going to hear this story and they're going to go like oh for years. They thought so badly of you for all these years and now suddenly you're Halo is back pristine exactly. Something is I was a Yankee and so I never made friends with the neighbors and Chris was this other guy that made friends with everybody. So we did make friends with all the neighbors and we Tell him because obviously we want to really hold my back and he also was going down the road. He'd wave at everybody at says Texas, you know, Southern boy thing and there was a guy apparently that didn't way back ever and Chris thought I'm going to wave at you one way or another right? So this guy got the bird every time but he's waving his hand still but just with his middle finger up and I was like, seriously, you're doing that to her neighbor. He's like, yeah, I waved he was in way back. He's gonna get something that sounds like oh that was Chris, right? Just fine for me. Well speak speaking to neighbors. Let's let's jump into your brand new book because American Spirit is all about this idea of the greatness of America what Built America what into what it is and our neighbors the people that are all across this country. They're giving back and doing good things the neighbors that wave back to us not the ones hits home and you highlight 30 incredible people. So my first question is what led you to write this book. Book and then after that, what are the stories that stood out the most you what had the most impact on you? Okay. So those are great question. I think you can relate in your listeners can relate because you're obviously people who care about human interest stories, right? And what makes people tick. Well, I went out and I was doing speaking engagements. I was traveling the country with my kids and I was here people would just talk to me which I love and I'm curious by Nature so I would want them to and they tell me these stories about this. And these unique ways that they were giving back and I see the news and I think this is what people are telling us our country is about but this is not what our country is about. This is about what the loud minorities are saying the majority that are quieter are doing these amazing things at some point. I was talking to Jim DeFelice who wrote American Wife and American Sniper and I was saying, you know, it feels almost like I'm selfish or I should be ashamed if I don't share these stories because there have been healing to me and they inspire me and they tell me that the country is not so bad as what what we're hearing. So it was really that reason it was very altruistic. I know that good news doesn't often sell. I know that people love to hear anger. They love to hear chaos. I know that I could increase my following if I would get passionately Furious about things and I just won't do it because I've got to stay true to who I am and like we said endurance. I've got to have endurance for the right things and I've got to have endurance for the good things. And so I put out a book that is American Spirit. Because I believe that my faith is that God will get into the hands of the people who need it and there will be a ripple effect. I might not know it decided heaven, but somebody you know who needs this book is going to have it or somebody else is going to read it and they're going to say hey you need to read this story. I already had one example of a guy who he's a teenager and he was completing suicide because he was getting bullied and is equal does a fellow student who then told teacher and the teacher called me and was saying, you know, I'm thinking about reading. A spirit to show what it's like to have a hardship and what beauty can come out of it. And you know, I said you got to read the story about the principal who's in this book and his story started by being bullying and he's changed the world with thousands of kids. People don't want to leave his middle school because it's so amazing and that kid needed to know that the bullying could like you said, they had jumping off point as and he said get off the X this could be as X and this could be his thing. He since the next level so, you know, I really do believe in I'm not overseeing. I really do believe it - A vibe Change lives. You asked me what my favorite story is. I think that the cumulative effect is was my favorite because we purposely took a cross section of kids adults sports players, you know, the fellow players. There's musician Zac Brown. There's Jesse beams of famed for being a bad boy, but really turns out to donate a building to Catholic charity for homeless all based on his nana making sandwiches for people crossing through his backyard in Compton. I mean, it tells me I'm so many levels that I don't care who you are what you're doing in this world. When you do one right thing after another you have to have the faith that this is a long game and that those ripples will count. They will matter just as much as negative things. You know, we talked earlier about some frustrations that I've had and some people that I think are I've done two things that if they were exposed for be a big deal but Vengeance isn't mine. That's not the energy. I'm going to put into the world Vengeance in the Bible. It's not mine and I've had to practice that and that is taken tremendous endurance. It's also given me tremendous please. So to wrap that whole thought lineup American Spirit is a book that gives people peace in the in the long game. It shows people if you if you look for the opportunity the Beauty and the ashes you'll see that in my belief, it's Satan but not everybody in the book is a Believer. He'll make a move but God's always got him and Checkmate. It's a testing he makes a move and he goes Check known Gods like Checkmate mother, you know, he's got like he's got no, I'll turn that into good when you talk about a kid died. Dying at the end there to you guys. Like I got this. I'll turn that into good. I'll turn everything that Satan does something good. You just have to look for the opportunities that come to you there. And to me that that gives me the ability to live this life with a set of a kind of peace that I never would have had without those stories, you know, it's there's so much negativity in the world. I mean I talked about, you know, it is a choice. It's a choice to try and be positive and we have hard times and I'll be the first to admit I was I'm kind of Struggling with some things going on with us right now and but I'm driving forward and no matter what I mean. It was the one thing. I know I can do I will continue to push forward but we talk about that negative versus positive and that's what this book is about. It is about the positivity and I've stopped watching the national news because it's just so negative and there's your right right and it's in the world is bigger than the u.s. Politics like, why are we not talking about anything else in the world if people knew other countries were really like you would have a lot more to celebrate, but we're so busy. He being angry with each other. It's like being a family that's just fighting all the time not realizing that right outside their door are you know, true slums and true problems inside they're fighting about you know, the pink color something not that our problems are important they are but there are other ways to go about it. We don't just need to legislate other people into doing what we want. We need to actually give some more freedom like, you know, I know people that are you know, they're anti-abortion. Okay. So if they are they could spend all their time fighting laws with everybody else believe It's the way they did or they can do it. They're doing which is they form a Pregnancy Crisis Center and they put it up next to places that people are getting abortions so that they can reach out touch a human life help them in a really positive way. If we would do that more than legislate. I think we'd be in a better better situation. So to speaking of choosing that positivity and trying to eliminate that negativity the politics all of that. I have a pretty deep question and that the question it's about the young man who took Chris's life and and and you know, No, I will never forget where I was. I was actually in Montana and I don't know if you know this or not or if you remember this. I was actually flying to Texas to meet Chris on Wednesday. We were we were coming down and he was going to we had had a gun built and Chris was going to shoot it for me and then we were going to auction that off and then we were also talking some about speaking and all these different things and and I got the call and that young man in the decision. He made you know this her. fake decision How have you handled that and and have you forgiven that individual? I mean that's a really hard concept and there are a lot of people that would say, you know, they would not bat an eye looking at you if you hadn't but how do you look at that now? No, I you know, I mean, they're really deep great questions. And I think the first thing that I deal with is I need people to know that psychiatrists on the prosecution and defense said he did not have PTSD nor did he have a traumatic event in his life? I think that's important because people who legitimately have PTSD Do not need that label that they don't deserve which is that it permanent murder. It doesn't flat-out. It does not make somebody murder and story on that but he did choose evil and he is paying the price only as a consequence and I went through a lot believe it or not. You know, my road to understanding forgiveness came from other people who I thought were friends who were supporters or family who ended up handling grief and pain in a way. That was out to destroy me and I couldn't understand that because that's not the way I grieve and it's not the way I believe so I started to look and really I remember sitting in the back of my church crying and as to my pastor because he's talking about pouring it all out and alter and I said talk to me about forgiveness because I feel like I need to forgive some people have hurt me really really badly and I don't know how to do that and still not be continuously abused and he said he said tell you have to understand question. Before long a lot of time with forgiveness forgiveness. It means you're you're not going to carry it with you, but it doesn't mean that you put yourself in the line of fire again, right? So having said that how that would apply the murderer is I can forgive him and still expect me to stay in prison for the rest of his life. It doesn't mean that I forgive and all is well and you get to come out and you didn't hurt me it so he gave an example in the Bible is you know, the guys that God gave them this great house and they chose to wander for 40 years. I mean, I'm super paraphrasing. Here, but when they said got it, we forgive us. He said my child. I forgave you the moment you did it, but that doesn't mean you get to go back where I was in the place. I originally had for you, right? So for a long time many many years people would ask if I forgiven the murderer and I would say I don't know that I've gotten that far but I've forgiven the other people of hurt me. I just do that happened in my life and I was just recently thinking honestly in the last couple months. Could I get to the point where I said I've forgiven the murderer and I think the only place I've gotten to is to say I don't care. With me, I don't carry unforgiveness. I don't carry forgiveness. I just don't let him be I don't want to have a part in my in my mind or my spirit but I will say this I do believe that he has a chance to go to heaven like anybody else. I do believe that no matter your crime. God loves you and wants you to come home and he wants you to accept him and feels love. I hope that he gets redemption in prison. I hope they find that if he hasn't already, you know, that's not my deal with him part of my faith means huge part of this life is me letting go and realizing that those are not mine. That's not mine to judge. I mean, it's I can't say judge because obviously I judge. I mean, I know what he did was, you know, yeah, but his time will come I mean that's reality. Yeah. Yeah, it's not mine to figure out the punishment other than to testify and want him locked up in prison. And you know, I've come a long way because in the beginning I asked the Rangers. Well, I think this is something I've said publicly before either but did you know within the first few days of first time I met the Rangers I said I had to Going in my face, and I said I know you probably can't but I'm asking you to let him out into general population. I wanted to pay and I want it hurt and I wanted to suffer and I want these other prisoners who are patriotic to you know, take out all their anger on him. That's what I wanted. And you know, I knew it wasn't probably possible. But I just wanted to know if somebody, you know, accidentally let him out or accidentally misplaced him. I was good with it. But but you know, I I know that he's in prison for the rest of his life. I know that the state of Texas is never gonna let him out. That's where he belongs because his crime was atrocious and it you know it almost and almost killed me too. And it you know, Chad's family is not a you know, nobody's the same and and the world missed out, you know, but we're doing our best to keep Chris's Legacy and his Spirit Alive so they can take his body but not his Spirit. Hey I have you or do you ever plan on speaking with this individual confronting them on what happened? No, and you know it is that's it. That's the question. If anybody else has ever asked me either I didn't confront him in the courtroom and I don't intend to ever do that. I don't know where God will take me or move me, but I've not seen remorse from him. I've seen calculated cold. I can't even even in the trial. It was nothing that even looks to me in my opinion human about. I mean, they showed pictures of Chris and Chad know with the autopsy and I remember looking Looking and thinking he has nothing. He has no soul. I mean it was horrifying to me. Well, I'm son of that no, no you're good. But that's just why I just think there's no place for me too. I mean what I've seen from a parent are they still want to blame it on something else. They still want to act like there's an excuse and I don't see any reason there's nobody that's there's there's no value then for that type of mentality even waste my time and well and the thing is there is Evil in this world. I mean, you know, there are a lot of very idealistic people who you know think that you know, if we wrapped our around arms around this kid long enough or even you know, Muslim extremists long enough that we're going to win them over we can hug them to goodness and it ain't going to happen. I hate to tell you people there is evil in this world, you know, whatever religious belief you have. I am a Christian, I believe Satan gets in the minds of people and there's evil and that kid may never turn back from what he did and I think you saw that So, all right. I'm going to flip this around. I'm going to flip this around we're going to bring this back up. So Tara, you told a story at the beginning about how you know, you have a good sense of humor. You love having fun and you talked about how Jimmy Fallon turns you down. So we tried to get on the Jimmy Fallon show and they were afraid they were like, oh God, we can't do that. We can't have an amazing American Icon, you know that the wife of Chris Kyle to come on and be funny. We don't know how to do that. So I think we can do that here. What do you think? I think we can we can we do that we could do this. I have an idea for a little bit of a game show a little bit of a game show. And if this doesn't work, we can totally cut it out, but I figured so what so today if you're ready for this. I'm going to call this game humorous creative opposites. Okay, so I'm going to give you some serious words and you have to counter back with the most creative. Humor is opposite you can think of in that moment. Okay. You want to try this? Don't try this. We're going to try this great. You have any ideas you have any serious ideas Ryan you can play into this. Also. I don't use thinking I don't use big words so you don't have to be big Huckabee me. Yeah, I could be me. I'm gonna just shut up and listen to the to smart people go. All right, the first word is accountant. It's very serious word post-tax day accountants and you want to create a funny word. I was gonna tell you something. I was gonna give you a warning shot that like a lot of my humor in the stuff comes comes to some sort of like 12 year old boy juvenile sexual joke. Okay. Well perfect then I've been them all down roll to the next one. I'll roll to the Nationals got my teddy Washington Washington Monument. It's just that one right over here. All right, we're gonna didn't okay. Big dick is like hey TW the president of our country I'd say he swung a big stick its yeah, I should have said is rock hard when you said that because that's even better. That's even better. I tried conquer and look what we got conquer conquer. I got from conquer to conquer that one wins. All right, all I'm saying all the way. I was thinking of talking a revolver. What were you thinking of right? I was thinking of cocking a Bathtub, right, right. That's it. Yeah, that's what I was saying. I'm actually bless you. So raise good at laying the caulk. All right. Well Jimmy Fallon, I think you missed out. But all right. We'll listen. I feel like I let you down. No, it's not at all what I was thinking. See who else can get this out of mistake, huh? Hey, man, I'm just trying I'm just trying to bring a little fun into the what were you thinking when you came up the word account? And I don't know I It's just I totally did this on the front line. Next time. I gotta figure this out a little sooner. I'm sorry out and I was like, yeah, I'm thinking of like that flick in a movie, you know. Yeah. It's like known as the driest people ever to you know, that was a that was a tough word. Well C, so then so then so it should have been it should have been KY should have been the counter the KY to counter the driest people. You're right. Okay. See that's I just now I'm out. You know what that game was created on the fly. So I'm figuring it out the same as you are. So let's try one. I'll try one. Let's see if we can get this you ready to how about Venture capitalism. Okay, we need to come up with something better than this prostitution Lord. How about deep? Hole deep hole po actually was digging a hole in the backyard. I'm thinking of a give me something capital is there now like, you know that movie Wall Street and all of that right? Like it's cocaine and hookers, right? All right, we have definitely definitely we've lightened it up. I I'll show you that. I love it. So where they're selling their souls, which is another kind of prostitution. I don't know I can make it work. All right. All right. Sorry. I'm not gonna lie. That's that when they're. All right. Well tell ya, I don't know. I don't know. I tried I tried rock-hard was the best though. I gotta tell you rock-hard was the best you are a winner in my book. It talked about Washington's big stick. Yes. It's just edit that out and you'll just use Washington Monument rock hard exactly Ryan. You got to work your magic editor. We're just gonna leave it. I'm gonna work your magic. Jake let's go. So tell ya I did we just justify Jimmy Fallon's decision to not have me on though. No. No, not at all. What are you talking about games or like James Corden? We as a game where you have to truth or equivalence testing or you know, we can identify we could have done carpool. Karaoke. Can you sing? I mean, I can't sing at all I can can you Panner singer Gonna Change? I mean I could but I fucking sing ouch. Okay, so that's going to be another thing. You guys have to have like a Apple of stick things that you do we need to do a carpool karaoke. We should drive her up, I guess and they just have to sing like a verse. I love it. Alright a go ahead. Let's see. What is your fault? Let's see wait, wait wait, we need we need to what song we should pick the song for her to sing. Yeah. We need to make sure she knows in dirt. So you have to have me back on and you know, we will be like you are my sunshine my only sunshine you make me happy when skies are gray. You can be our first live guests. I love it. We can fly some areas and Kansas carry on my wayward son. Oh, that's a good one. Everybody knows that song Or Dust in the Wind Dust in the Wind of love it. So Tara since we've kind of gone down this road tell us what you know, you're out there you are advocating you're doing amazing things and we're going to touch on the Chris Kyle frog Foundation here in just a second, but you know, we're trying A little bit of fun. What do you like to do? Now, you know when you're not out there making a difference obviously things you want to do in your personal life and things you're doing in your family life. What does Taya Kyle like to do? You know what I really so it's a it's a little bit boring because I do the grind and all that but I really have a lot of fun every day and that's no joke with my kids. There's Larry so funny and I have a blast of them. But my thing that I am passionate about is travel man anytime. I'm I can go see a place I've never seen before I don't care if it's a road trip local. I don't care if it's a flight I freaking love to travel the world the country everywhere. I love to do that. Have you seen the Washington Monument? It's decided and so, you know, I try to stay away from it. It's like, you know, I told you it's like the people, you know, if you're starving all you think about is food. I got to stay away from the Washington Monument. So well awesome you are. Let's talk about the Chris Kyle frog Foundation because that that is definitely one of your passions from you were out there. You've written some incredible books that have given people a lot of inspiration and motivation. But you have now taken many of the lessons that you've learned in marriage and helping military and first responder families. And that is the focus of building stronger marriages through the Chris Kyle frog foundation and you guys are doing that through several of the different events and Programs you have date night out revitalization Retreats. So tell us about that. Yeah, you know, I will because I could go through the programs and people can find that online in there. They're fascinating they're unique but I think the bigger picture and probably what's more important for your audience to know and for you guys, you know, you guys can testify to the fact that marriages are in trouble with the first responder and Military Community veteran and active duty and what people don't realize is you want to fight PTSD you keep the marriage. Intact you want to fight suicide alcohol addiction drug addiction to keep the marriage intact because when you are somebody who's seen evil in this world, you need a safe place to come home to and if you and your spouse are in a good place then when the spouse is saying hey babe, I noticed something's not right. I noticed the VA is not taking care of you. You know, there's some other options. I've been researching to help with the PTSD if the marriage is good then the service members says, you know what you're right. We probably do need to do that. Marriage is not good. When they just feel mag and they isolate more it's the next generation of kids that you have their family intact. You don't military guys, they get station to a different state and they never see their kid again. I mean, there's a it's a crisis and I feel protective of this know, this is Vision that we have because I don't think people realize they they can put you know, somebody who's injured on a postcard you can put somebody with PTSD doesn't have a job people get that, but do they In the civilian world what this marriage means to the service Community if much more than it is in the civilian world because it's critical to their survival is critical to them being able to find the job and feeling supported when they get out. It's critical to them being better from PTSD. PTSD is not a life sentence that you do need somebody who's going to take you outside of the VA. You need somebody who's going to look at things like nutrition acupuncture EMDR AR T therapy. There's lots of ways to be better, but you need a partner. I've been traumatized to now. And I'll tell you what, I needed people who had an outside look at me because when you're in the trauma, you don't always know exactly how you're doing. If you're getting up every day, you think you're doing? Okay? Sometimes you need somebody to say. I mean, look it wasn't that long ago within the last year that I had stayed in one of my best girlfriends. I talk to every day and my that bad I have a really not come as far as I need to come and she had to give me the honest answer and you need extra help, you know, we need that loving partner to do that and I'm a woman and I have strong female relationship. So I have that but a lot of guys don't Yeah, they don't have that. So I have a question. I want to ask you one word. And then I'm going to kind of elaborate off of it Faith. Okay faith has been a strong foundation for you. You've brought it up on different levels and many times here for many, you know who have endured what you have done. They may have cut Faith out completely was your face strong before or did the event bring you even stronger to it? Yeah, you know what it did bring me stronger and and hindsight. I see this like the loving father, you know, you guys are fathers. And if your kid was gonna have an amputation and you knew it, what would you do you'd prepare them ahead of time the best you could write. You wouldn't just wait for them to get slammed. You would prepare them ahead you'd sit with them during and then you would be with them after and I look at God is that loving father where he gave Free Will that's his promise and the person who killed Chris and Dad used his free will to do evil God knew that was coming, but he prepared me in ways ahead of time that are so loving and kind by giving Chris my this amazing time before he died that was Gift unlike any other and helping us get there was amazing by showing me widows beforehand by letting Chris and me talked about like the negativity that was brought and the pain that was brought to all these families who lost loved ones God brought something beautiful through that by preparing us and allowing us to look at that from the outside and be there for them and consider things. You know, I had this horrible time adjusting when he was gone. I didn't want him gone. I was afraid I was ruled by fear, but during those times a deployment. I need that. God and I found a way out of the fear through him and you know, I was able to raise my kids when it was really really hard by myself when they from the time they were literally born and I with that game the strength and his ability to endure so that when the worst-hit amputation did come I could endure it I could keep going and I had some experience dealing with pain. I mean nothing will prepare me for the loss of him fully but I was as prepared as I possibly could me. And with that preparedness, I mean really a translates to the kids. How did you that's such a I had the honor of working with some of our gold star families after some of our incidents where we lost teammates and it just broke my heart to watch but helping them come along. How did you do that? You know one of the things you know Eric and I get asked that question a lot, but you know, and I know it's a process, but what have you done to keep? I'm grounded and to keep them understanding and unfortunately bad things sometimes happen. But you know, we can't just dwell on it. How do we how do you have you done that? Yeah, it's interesting. I think they were prepared to him some ways because we had friends die and we talked about evil from the time they were little he said evil exists, but they're in heaven. That's our belief. We're going to pray for them nor to pray for their families. And as young as they were, you know, we had the opportunity to to be very open with them and talk with them and then you know when When it was their time, obviously it was horrible. Chris was an amazing father and they took the hit in different ways and it's been a fascinating journey to see how my daughter reacted and how my son reacted how we came together not apart and how we each try to protect each other in different ways. And you know, I noticed that with faith and with prayer my kids are so strong spiritually and they have such a strong belief in In seeing their dad again on other side that you know, they're really happy healthy well-adjusted kids and you know, you said a good word about being grounded and that was important to Christen me when the book came out were like it doesn't matter who he is in the book it matters that you can pad and they haven't even seen the movie. I because truly their memories are the best part of him, which is Dad and father and for me husband, so they're just I think they're just naturally I don't, you know, all the celebrities or whatever that you meet. Those pictures aren't up in the house. That's not our Focus or pictures are of silly things and the things that we do together that matter grey we know we just keep it real and I think with all of that and especially our faith in God, we're good and we believe that if things happen like, you know, let's say we miss a flight or something. We just believe that it's God's protection. That's it. I mean it's where we don't let the little things bother us anymore. Yeah, it's real. I love that perspective. Yeah. I mean, I think that's what gives it to you. Yeah. It's like you said, you know, what a bad day is your family knows what a bad day is ya know it's there why get upset about the little things we all know what a bad day really is. Yeah. I try and tell people, you know bat a bad days to find a something. It's a life Ambush, you know to leave a mental physical or emotional scar on you, you know, so yeah you have hard days you have tough days. But you know, you reserve bad days for those major events, you know say tell ya and you have to know when the Ambush comes the God has the ability to bring something amazing through it. It doesn't mean you like it. It doesn't mean you asked for it. I think God wants you to go through it either but I think God says is this is a test and your team God. So what you do is you endure and you watch how I'm going to turn this into something that's going to be better for you just like you would do for your kids. If somebody came at them and Ambush them you would see them through it and then you would bring something better for them. You wouldn't just go out. That sucks. I'm sorry, you know. Yeah, no true statement. So today you become a role model for so many military wives and and and and single moms across the country who have lost a husband or a raise. Raising children on their own. So what would you say to the single moms that are out there who have lost a husband whether it's divorce or incident. What advice would you give them to drive forward and to give them hope? Yeah, I think that's a great question. And I think the truth is that you know, you have to just you do have to get up every day, but you have to give yourself Grace it's hard sometimes and sometimes you just need to sleep and I think sometimes when you're pushing hard all the time for me, the hardest part was giving myself a break sometimes and telling myself. It's okay if I sleep once in a while, you know, it's okay, if instead of having the dinner made and doing all this stuff, it's okay if we grab a burger, I mean, you know, there are things that that need to do this a were real and we're Newman and more importantly if you have kids, I think you have to prioritize quality time with them so that other things are going to slide they are period you know, I remember the longest time saying when I was a stay-at-home mom, I could do all these fun Pinterest see things for Halloween and I can get everything back related wool don't have the same amount of time now so different but what I what I need is I need my kids to another incredibly unconditionally loved and then he's no God if I do that then I'm good. So yeah, we may not have the house decorated for everything for Halloween. But if we want to have friends Over and so, you know celebrate our do whatever then I make time for the quality time. I guess nice. No that's great advice. So teh up if you could give people three piece of pieces of advice what advice and lessons would you share from your experiences? First and foremost I'd say pray and I don't care I don't care if you have no relationship with God. I don't care if you can believe it ask him. Just throw it out there got are you there? Can you show me and start a personal conversation? You don't have to be on your knees. You don't have to be interred. She just just reach out and find him and that's by far the most important advice. I can give to that will see you through absolutely everything and the other things I would say, you know would be go back to number one. Prey, but the other two things that I would say to people is Prepare yourself to endure because life will hit all of us in some way or another. Nobody gets out for free. Nobody gets out without pain. It's going to hit so just prepare to endure and know that you're there's there's always always always always light on the other side. That's American Spirit through and through there's always light on the other side and you just have to get up and try again. And the other thing I would say is learn learn some Grace with yourself with others and Just say you know life is hard have some compassion when other people are acting, you know, fool around you or doing things that are hurtful give him some Grace. They're obviously going through something. I wouldn't be proud of the way people are but if I were those people I would not be proud of it one day right when I look back. I'm not be proud of myself. So we have to have some some faith that that's there to carry in that ours. So I think yeah with with prayer be prepared a pre-prepared to endure and give yourself and other people around you some Grace because this is not easy for any of us. Really amen, and I actually think of all the guests we've had and if you know anything about me, I don't bullshit. That's probably the most powerful answer I've ever gotten from that question. I mean, seriously, I can't remember what I had for lunch yesterday, but I'm serious. No, I'm being serious, but I will remember that probably for the rest of my life. So I mean that that's yes ma'am. Amen. Well, that's a huge blessing for me to hear that. I'm so glad so today. We are rolling up on the end of the show and I think it's a it's a great. Time to kind of bring things back full circle you talked about that American Spirit is about that that Grace and about everything that you talked about to prepare for those hard moments prayer and all of it. So, you know, for those of you out there, you can find American Wife and American Spirit at all, your major bookstores. Can they get signed copies on your website? Yeah. I think if they go to Chris Kyle frog foundation.org they can email in and we'll tell him how to do it. Okay, perfect. So so And if they want to learn more about you or if they're interested in Booking you for speaking obviously from this podcast. We have all seen you are, you know, not only beautiful but you have great knowledge and wisdom to share you have endured and and shown people how they can do that. So they can go to tacklehead.com for that go by American Spirit and amazing book If you're looking for some positivity if you're looking for motivation and Inspiration Go by American Spirit you needed in this day and age with all that. That negativity and then if you are military law enforcement or a first responder, you are married and maybe you're struggling go check out the Chris Kyle frog Foundation Taya is representing she wants to help all of you out there to build strong resilient marriages. And if you've got Deep Pockets like Jimmy Fallon if you're listening to this Jimmy go make a donation at the Chris Cobb frog Foundation. Yeah, Jimmy, you know what Jimmy get off your ass and let's get her on your shirt Jimmy. What the hell Jimmy James Corbin tear clouds going to sing let's get this. No, I'm not I'll be monkey or singing and dancing monkey. Have her host SNL. Yeah. Yes, and I don't think they would touch me with a ten-foot pole would they? Wow, you have the right political views for that show anymore. All right guys, we'll listen. This has been Jay overcome show. Odd 17 and thank you guys for tuning in. Please share the show. We're really trying to grow our base and we those either listen love the show. So tell others about it. And if you love us go to iTunes go on there subscribe leave a five star review if you can cram an additional star make it a 6 star review make it Utah. Give me six leave a comment and share it with your friends. So as we always do As we always do we're going to close with our two minutes of motivation endurance has the word of the day you want who wants you want me to go to First go first. Alright. So here we go endurance the ability to thrive through massive amounts of pressure and strain when others would yield under the load you're able to keep pushing forward and I tell you what, there's so many of you out there right now. I actually I'm one of man. I'm going through a period right now where the strain is on me and I'm having a Just continue to push forward and I know I can do it is what I do, but sometimes you feel it and and Taya Kyle is such an amazing example of a person a woman a wife who has lost someone and under that strange. She stayed forward. She endured you can do it to it is about putting one foot in front of the other that is endurance. It is the overcome mindset. It is the Conqueror mindset and I will kick it to mr. Kerr very eloquent. Here we go guys. Life's hard, you're going to get knocked down. You're going to get kicked. You're going to get you're gonna get punched in the face. You've got to endure. It's a marathon. You've got to get up every damn day and you've got to power through things. All right, people are going to be dealing with hardships. It happens. It's part of life. You're never going to grow unless you know, you've got to push yourself mentally emotionally physically spiritually, whatever Italy there is but bottom line ladies and gentlemen, you're going to you're going to be faced with adversity. You're going to have to learn how to overcome it. And things are going to happen. So all I can say is is stay in the fight don't give up and live to fight another day. Now, I turn it over to the most beautiful to Echo in my dried you have minutes. Yeah, it's close it close it down to call you finish up finish strong. Yeah. I think that endurance is the one thing that we need to teach our kids from a time. They're really young. There's a lot of this mentality that we don't want our kids to suffer. We don't want them to hurt I get that but the truth is they are going to hurt they are going to suffer in their life. So when the All things come we need to train them up in this idea of endurance and we need to teach them what character is and how to keep going and not try to save them from everything because endurance is the thing every single person on this planet will need going forward. There's never a time. There's never decade in your life or you're not gonna have something you have to endure. Let's celebrate endurance. Let's push forward and teach our young how to do it and encourage the older to cover more people than we think do. I love it. I think you just became the master and I am really the n't shelves today. It is an honor to have you on thank you so much. Thank you so much buddy. 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JR Overcome Show - Episode 17 - The Endurance of the American Spirit - Ray' Cash" Care and Jason "Overcome" Redman interview AMAZING wife of THE LEGEND Chris Kyle, Taya Kyle. Taya gives an INCREDIBLE Interview about life with Chris, raising kids and how she continued to OVERCOME after that devastating day. She talks about the word of the day ENDURANCE and how she has focused on setting the example for other Americans and her kids and how to be a strong woman, mother, Patriot and American. Taya tells some FIRST TIME stories about her thoughts on Chris's killer, people who exploit Chris's name, and a hysterical story about Chris and a bachelorette party. Taya also talks about her incredible newly released best selling book, American Spirit and her passion for helping military, first responders, and law enforcement families build stronger marriages through her non-profit the Chris Kyle Frog Foundation. This was an AMAZING Episode and you will not want to miss It! Taya closes by giving amazing insight into how you can have more resilience and endure with the word of the day, Endurance. . As Always we close with 2 Minutes of motivation - shotgunning our views on the Overcome Mindset & the word of the day and TAYA brings the house down with her MINUTE OF MOTIVATION! - Time to get your Conquer & Overcome on! Email us at connect@jrovercomeshow.com for comments, questions or just to sing our Awesome praises! 