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So if you're ready for today's dose of positivity and prosperity then let's Dive In Hi everyone, welcome back to another episode of the positivity and prosperity podcast. How are you doing? Now? This has been an absolutely crazy week for me. There's going to be loads and loads of new podcast episodes coming your way today. I have been interviewing the amazing Kelly Simone in this episode. I'm going to be sharing an interview I did with you with Doug and Logan from unmasked mental health now. This episode is so so important because we open up a dialogue around mental health dog and Logan will share their story with you, but they both have come from a place where mental health was at the Forefront of their minds. They have created an awesome app that they are going to talk about it's a completely free app. So I wanted to start this episode by saying if you or someone, you know is suffering in terms of their mental health now, this could be anything. 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And or send me an email at Victoria at Victoria maskull.com manifesting magic 2.0 is going to be amazing and I don't want you to miss out. Okay, now we're going to go into this episode. I am really excited to share this unmask mental health is an amazing amazing group of people working together to transform people's lives, and I'm going to go into the interview now. I hope you really enjoy this episode any information about Omar. Mental health is going to be in the show notes, and I will see you all in the next episode. So I would like to welcome Doug and Logan from unmask mental health to the positivity and prosperity podcast. Let's just start with you introducing yourself. Tell us a bit about you and what you do. Oh look a little you can go first. Yes. My name is Logan Smith, and I'm one of the founders of a mass mental health. We started this back in January of 2019. So just over a year ago. And my background I've come from council tax and housing benefit working for the council for the past nine years. See you day-to-day struggles with people from Financial issues and well from a whole range of things. And the reason why I got into doing what I'm doing is is through because my wife so I wanted to create something to help as many people as possible on a daily basis. So that's that's pretty much me in a nutshell. You're old just try to help people when and where Erica. So yeah, I'm drunk Tennyson. So I got into this I've come from a sales background and I got into this because I live with PTSD and was diagnosed with depression. So that's why I'm going to this really just to try and help people like been through similar situations amazing and we were saying that we connected probably about a year ago wasn't it through social media and I just want to say the the Change that you have made in a year the way you've grown your business the the amount that you've put into it. I just think he's amazing and it's so impressive and I'm really excited to have you on this podcast episode because I know there are going to be people who are going to resonate with your stories. I know that you're going to talk about what unmask mental health is and how it helps people and I just think it's really really important that we have discussions about mental health and that we openly talked about it and I've shared briefly on this podcast that the reason I'm doing what by doing is because in my early 20s, I had really really bad anxiety. I found it in the therapy which was just like an absolute Lifesaver and that's where I've got to so do you want to start by telling us a little bit about unmask mental health what it is who it helps and then we'll just take it from there. Yeah. Sure. First of all, thank you for having us on though. We really excited to be on here as well and and to tell a stories and get it across but initially started as just an idea. Yeah, initially started or mass mental health. We didn't even we didn't have a name when we first started the idea. So we thought of this app to give people a place to open up and talk about how they feel it with the benefit of being able to remain completely Anonymous and then choose to reveal the profile all the time and first ever meeting with Doug. We sat down and said one. Yeah. We're in a local pub scrub it. If we didn't have laptops are out like that, it will literally a Bic pen and a piece of printing paper and stuff and think you're right. Let's do some spider chats and we thought right we need to think of a name for this app or what we want to achieve and Doug this resonates and I tell this every time we go to a talk is that you know, the way that Doug was feeling he used to get up every morning and get dressed put his work pants on his shirt is tie look right now some fancy for a sales. And then the last thing that you do is put on his mask before he left the before he left the house and then it take until coming home where it take his mask off and unleash unleash all of his feelings. Whether it even even if it's happy, you know with it. Just let it all out when it got home. That's where you can supplement her room when we when were talking about and that's what I said. That's that's how I'm feeling. That's what I do every day. You went that's it. That's what we call it. That's what we'll call it almost so we came came up with the name, so Last we want everyone to unmask their feelings. It should be just a normal thing. We're always seeing on social media how happy everybody is but we never see how sad people get and yeah, it's just one of the things we should see and we should support each other if somebody's feeling sad or down or depressed or feeling anxious at a certain time the offer a five minutes worth a help that can change someone's hold their health benefits of the you can just sit and listen just sit in and listen to someone like Flawed can massively improve someone's day. We are even here. Yeah, hugely and I think listening is an underrated skill because sometimes as use a literal as you said that taking the mask off you just sometimes need to unload and having that person who is just going to listen. They're not going to judge. They're not going to say oh but pull yourself together because you're right social media is full of filters full of positivity full of smiles and it's sometimes makes people think that if you're not fitting that mold, Then there's something wrong with you and that's just not the case. Is it? Yeah. Yeah, definitely cause you always see on social media people's good stuff the stuff they're doing the stuff that you want to be doing this stuff like that. You never look at nobody ever puts on the bad stuff. Yeah. So yeah, it can affect massive account. Yeah. Yeah. I was just going to say, you know, I've been a Believer postnatal depression for the past two two and two and a bit years, but I've come a bit of a different angle I've been living with Depression through my wife she's been struggling really really bad with it. And that's what sort of prompted me to think of this idea of the app and what I was noticing that when she was going to counseling she was feeling absolutely amazing so I can a Wednesday. It'd be like I met my mentor my wife again for the first time and with you know, everything was brilliant and another Thursday as well was a good day, but then it was like an emotional roller coaster background. 2/3 background to Wednesday, sorry like that one it yeah up and down all the tap. And one thing I thought about is that a counselor is just another person. It's just another P. If you saw them out in the street, they probably do the same thing and talk to you. So we wanted to I wanted to create something where she could talk to somebody throughout the whole week. It's that Gap in between them Services because the services are outstanding whatever, you know. Whether you go to CBT or you go down to the hypnotherapy or any route, you go down whether it's peer support. The service is a brilliant, but they're not there every single day. And so we want to bridge that Gap to do we big waiting list as well and there's big lit waiting list for like especially like where we are in calderdale these the services are out there as a lawyer said they're amazing but to get onto them Services some of them have 12 weeks weigh in 12 weeks where like when you're feeling at your lowest point. You don't want to be told you've got to wait 12 weeks to actually try and if anybody saw anything can happen that 12-week it can make or break your so yeah, that's why when it's something that's there all the time so important and I know like I know myself as well and I'm sure my clients you sometimes just need someone to talk to our two o'clock in the afternoon. Just that little bit of reassurance that that hand-holding that's support and you're right most therapy. It's once a week and that's if you get onto the list rather than you know, Waiting period must be absolutely agonizing and to have this app there where people can literally just pick up their phones because we're on our phones all the time, aren't we? Yeah, we are and I think when it comes to friends and family, we feel like we don't want to put upon them. We don't that we know they're struggling with things. Yeah, we burden and even like that earlier this this app, you know, you can just go on it and then you don't even have to get a reply but just to type it down type it out and send it to someone anonymously. I just how you feeling. It's a good release. Yeah, even if they're not replying, you know, but you tell me a little bit about how the app physically works. I'm going to put all the links in the show notes. So if anyone is listening to this guy, I need this app. Don't worry. I'll make sure it's all there people can access it. But yeah tell me about these are the sort of usability of it how it works. It's really really easy and really simple this is to keep it that way because I'm getting old. I'm a bit of damage. So I say I'm a 36. I'm not that old but I'm not that far off we seek so, you know sat next to him. I feel a bit old. Yeah, it's really it's really easy to use and so everyday when you log on it asks you how you feel it on a simple sticks emojis. So there's happy right down to angry and sad and what that does is gives other users an idea of how you are feeling. So the other users can see how you're feeling and what we want from that is for someone that might be feeling really Happy to reach out to someone that's feeling sad and vice versa. Someone that's feeling sad reach out. Someone's feeling happy and say look. I'm not in a good place today notice that you feeling happy. Have you got any words of wisdom or you know, can we have a chat starting conversations with starting conversations? You said all Anonymous is that part of the who's otherwise? He can choose to unmask yourself to everybody or you can choose to imagine yourself to that one person that you've been speaking to for six months and then thinking I've got the confidence now, I want to know this person. Is that so Man, or I want to know this person. Is that been helping along the way? Yeah, and that's how you can you can choose to unmask yourself. Yeah, I'm smiling because I just got this I can see a map behind you. So anyone who listen to the podcast there is a map behind them YouTube you'll see it but I can almost imagine little masks popping up all across the country and just this port Network and and like, oh, it's yeah, that's what the pin spot. So that's something else that's something else we do. So we'll get onto that we get home. I'll get one for the After the app, yeah the app is so basically you log on you choose how you feeling and then you get an option than to search people. So you can search on edge you can search on location and you can search on what that person's living with. So me personally, we've course nail depression. I might want to reach out to someone like dog with PTSD because I might want a different idea of mental. I want I want to talk a different approach and put one completely different. How are they coping with their with their type of Mental health or it could be that I'll just want to talk to people with post natal depression. Yeah, you can really search who and pinpoint who you talking to. There's a special button on there and there's but she says I'm just here to support so you don't have to be even even living with anything. You can just go on there to support people and give positivity. Yeah amazing. I'm getting I've got the app downloaded. I'm going to get on it after this. Yeah, and then it's just it's just a basic message in service. So it's just there to message in and out. But what we wanted to do is to create like a for seven service and which it which it isn't it's alright with just the people that's on there. It's now being downloaded it just shot a 60 countries across the world. So with time with time for changes and stuff like that it probably is going to be a chat in Services 24/7 but just in case there's not someone on at two o'clock in the morning three o'clock in the morning. Yeah, if I better after a night out. Yeah, they're good example is if I've been reaching out to logon for six weeks and I've just built that Bond and I have been out I've been in a bit. It got a bit of a crisis and the middle and I really need to talk to someone but he's not answering because he sleeps it's not a vampire least are he sleep so we've put a button on there. So you click the alert button and that transfer straight through to the crisis team. There's always someone there if it's not physical on a text. There's always one. That's a physically talked to on the phone. Yeah. So that's the the key. That's the button. That's the most important button but that's the bomb in every level people that push. Yeah. Yeah, it's that last resort there is going to be someone there but you want them to have built a network where they're actually boosting themselves up. So they don't ever need that major. And is that crisis like the crisis team like a uk-based company that's getting. Yes, the Samaritans it goes directly to one one six. One two, three. It's an automatic dial go straight through to them. But yeah that's are all the time. But that's pretty much the the that's how easy the app is that's all I can really say about. Yeah, because that's how simple it is. And that's how easy it is to use the more people that using the app the more people it's helping. Yeah. Sure. Yeah. Well one thing we come up against a quite a lot is when we were asking people, you know, I'll save you know, go download this app. It's there it's free to use it's a free app. There's no advertisements on it. There's nothing like that. It's just free on both Apple and Android and people say well how much money do you make a coffee off each downward? How much money did you make off each download the little and there's nothing the bill we don't know. Anyone element its we wanted to make something that's just free. The original idea was for us to just make it put it out there and go back to our normal jobs and it ended up where it's actually we have to we have to quit as jobs and do this. Yeah, which is amazing, isn't it? Because there is a massive need for this do you? Into schools. Is this an or is this for 16 plus the apps for 16 plus everything since we first we first joined it in January last year a lots happened. And yeah, it's a lot come from this that we didn't expect to come from it. Yeah, so we do going to schools now, but with something completely different. Yeah, that's not for all mass. That's true. Someone else that we've done as well. Yeah store. Yeah, there are lots come from it. We did Logan said it would just never meant to be this. It was meant to be there's a nap and we'll just carry on doing what we're doing. Yeah, but what if you've ever listened to any of my stuff, you know that I'm massive massive fan of the Law of Attraction and happening for reasons. And if you have got a real Mission, I think doors open for you a new opportunity to work because there is such a need for this and one question. I just want to ask you why why do you think so obviously, this is your field. Why do you think there is still such? stigma around mental health and discussing that versus physical health problems For me, I don't I think it's always been there. I think that that sting was always being there. But because more people are now talking about it. It looks like it's a big stigma if that makes sense. He's always been there but people now more open to talk about it. So that's where we're getting all these numbers from all these different stats and stuff like that. Yeah, and on my view I can give you an example that actually happened last night. So we'll talk about the hub's shortly but in one of the I was hosting last facilitating last night. It came up someone going through a really difficult time. And the reason why they haven't said anything besides in that group is because they have a fear of losing the job losing losing the family and things like that. And one thing when you're going through a difficult time is that you think of the worst. Yeah possible before we end and I think that's what creates the stigma really is because we think about the word. First thing and it's just it's only natural. That's what we do. That's how our brains work and we think about losing his family. We think about having no money or my God. We've got to live on the streets. I'm gonna have to yeah and you don't think you don't think to look for the helpless there bit saying that yeah like this Lily didn't think you know, she works for a local Council where you get you get paid for six months for being you know, when you're off sick you get paid six months full salary and then three months half salary and in statute, so The support back blankets always there so she's always going to be getting getting a getting the money. They're not going to sacker. There's always support out there. So whether it be might need a council tax reduction or you know, something like that or it might be just loads of different Avenues. You don't think of them Avenues you just think that worst thing first. So I think that's what sort of in my mind creates a bit of the stigma is because we bottle it up because we think our track at talk about it because I'm going to lose my job. I'm going to do this and when this is going to happen, this is to happen. Well Logan puts it. Well, they keep saying that your physical and your mental health are two go hand in hand. They go hand-in-hand for us and it explains it really well that it is just important because it's like it's like nursing a broken bone. And yeah, I'll let you live. Yeah. So one thing I always say is mental health is just just like physical health. It's just like a broken bone and with the right support the right treatment and the right people around you that That's just going to become just as strong as it ever was before just like a broken bone. You always put a cast on a broken bone you get you have nurses there supporting you have repeatable there helping you whether it's just opening a door for your helping you down the steps. People are there to support you when you have a broken bone? Yeah, after after the cast comes off. It's just as strong as it was before and that's it with his mind as well with the right people the right support the right help. It's going to just be as strong as it was before. I love that and I think a lot of it is you don't see someone struggling with mental health because you have put their masks on and so like a lot of my clients will will say oh, yeah. Well, I haven't talked to anyone about this or like I said, you know, the male clients. I have a lot of them say God I couldn't couldn't talk to anyone about what this about this at work. Oh God one of the lads to know and I know that's changing and I know there is definitely a movement around everyone should be able to talk about mental health different. I think it's that thing of People almost doubting that it exists, which I think is absolutely crazy. Like I think there are still some people that go. Oh anxiety stress depression. It's not real its massively real there are biochemical changes in our brains that show these differences in emotions and feelings and that is just as real as a broken bone. So hopefully this movement is just pushing it forward to show that you heal from mental health and you heal from physical health in the same way. Definitely. Yeah. Who's onto the map go for it? You played the on really well. Yeah, so so alongside obviously, we've created the output we can use at home. So we know how hard it is to walk through a door. So we've been there we've been to support rooms peer support groups and for me if I divide my partner's when women because I went to a man's group if I divided my part that come with me at a being there a lot sooner. So what we did is we create the app you can use it in the comfort of your own home and but we've also created the hubs. So there's a vacuum cleaner going round standing guard and I can hear it. So what we did party office, so what we did we thought well, you know, what why not create a hub why not create a home where people can come whether it's man-woman family couples. So the hub's are for anybody age 16 plus where they can come along get things off the chest open up about how the feeling without judgment without fear of being ridiculed and it's free. Come have a coffee some biscuits and kick. We just sit around have exactly just gotta have biscuits and cake and kick their have a sit around and just chat and get things off this we asked us to set a structure for questions. So it's questions that are like as your mental health is questions that are designed to get you thinking without actually thinking about your mental health and when you come out of it, you're like, oh my god. I've actually I've never thought about it like that. So you're not so Yeah, just think it's just such a nice environment and we do it every Thursday at 7 o'clock. We have four currently in called a deal that's what the van and that's what the pins are for amazing have the MacBook there. We have the map of England and then we have any large one of called the real life. We hope that our goal this year is to open five. You hubs across the UK. So outside of cold air, we've sort of got the called Avail people. Yeah. So yeah open them outside, but It's just every Thursday we all meet hope we have a good chat and a good man answer the questions and people have started to Now sort of rely on the hooks, which is the highlight of the week and it's got my light of the week to come is to come and talk to the hope the Hope even if it's they've come to just say how positive the week speed and how great the weeks be. Yeah, it's you know, it helped to the people. We like Doug said we have five structured questions the question one and question. We are always the exact same question one is had a quick sumup of how's your week been? So like last night? It's a quick sum up. It's it's been good. It's been bad and then we get onto it and question 3. So question three, is there anything you want to unmask this week anything you want to get off your chest? Whether it's past present whether it's happy artists at traffic wardens yet last week was my washing and let me wash it for like a week and it's just massive tail, but it's that's what goes on in my head. And that's what sets my anxiety often, you know having to think I've got all this stuff to do. I've got the you know, like my doctor look after be there for my wife as support be there as a family man. I've got cooking to do cleaning to do all this and Summit little that. Everyone else might think that is just Daft like having you know worrying about your washing but you don't think that that Sparks the other stuff off like it's just a chain reaction so differently, but yeah that a lot of the homes the hopes. I love the program we facility. We use the whole to self but that's the thing. So they're all volunteer red LED. So what we'll do is we'll go open a hub and then we'll look for people in that group that give you more advice and really really focused on people and like just like to be around people and then we'll ask them, you know, Joanna facilitate the whole forest and look for a co-facilitator. So if you are ever offer if you ever need a break and want to offload, you've got a copper cylinder or two to do it for you as well. Yeah, and then we go another one. That's that that's how they work. I think my highlights of the Hub so far is we added a chap come towards affair while ago actually and he was sadly a point of wanting to take his own life and he started coming to the hugs and about eight weeks in we got a phone call from his partner just saying how much of a difference is it's made him and then the week after we had a fundraising available first fundraiser almost fundraising event and Came up to us and they were like Lads and we'd create a really good friendship at this point anyway, so it was given the Hogan how you doing lad you all right. I've got so much to show you and he pulled up his sleeve and he's got an unmatched tattoo saying I'm okay on his forearm and he said every time I feel bad, I look down at the you must logo and I look at what it says that I'm okay and it definitely had its it changed said that it's absolutely changed his life around not only is partner, but it's whole family or is how much of a difference is a used to be known? Has like the grumpy Uncle rounded nephews and now he's getting questioned like a lot of why you so happy. Wow just from offloading what is problems of being or you know, like my situation having just like the Daft thing like the washing piling up the good thing about that. Is he he now facilitates one of our homes. Yeah. So he's he's moved on to facilitate a Hobart and really he's really shown and really it's just like a different person. Yeah. But the M4 the holds we want one with that's why the map so big that's why I got UK a map if we can get Hub within an hour's Drive of any location in the UK. Wow, that's his goal. Yeah. It's a big girl so we can achieve it can achieve you can onto new volunteers here full-time or Masa and they've got a real passion for mental health. They've been through their own struggles and Journeys and even you know, I got a message this morning because I sent one of them is her day off today. And sent a message to say thank you for something. You've typed up. It's absolutely fantastic. I'm sorry to bother you on your day off and her replied they was you know, you're not bothering my it's not a day off. I'm working from home. We want this charity just as much as you guys do we want this to drive forward just as much as you do, you know, take it to the next level. So we've got two of you can actually send an email. It's your we can't do this without all working hard for words and for us, I've only been here a week. I've just feel like we've made the right choice. Right. Yeah, and that story like I'm sure anyone listening to this is going to be touched by that and I want to like I know you know, you're doing a great job, but I really want to say thank you for everything you're doing and for all of this because just listening to you talk about it. You're so passionate about it. And I think sometimes when we go through our own struggles, we feel like no good is going to come from that and the story you've just told and your own story show actually. A negative can be turned into a massive positive and this I can't wait. I can't wait to have you on the podcast again in a year's time or something and you to say yeah, we've got 25 hubs 30 hubs 40 hubs across the country yet because it's this is growing so much and people need this. This is so so important and I just yeah, I just wanted to kind of stop and pause and say that for a second because I want you to know how much people value this because I know they do. But it is quite hard to take. I mean just last night. I'll if you don't mind me get me fun. I'll read you a comment. Someone that came to the hub last night and for me, it's quite I don't know about you Doug. But for me, I sometimes have to pinch myself and be like, is this actually yeah in like I do it because it's so silly it was on it. I keep saying this because it's a bit surreal because like a year in Maria and it will just meant to be a nap because we see him which carry on but now we keep getting messages do it was here. Thank you, and it's just it's just a bit. So really this this for last night came in just it probably about 11 o'clock at night the hub's finished at nine, but she just put thank you for tonight. I feel so much better when I walk out. I know I've only been two times but it's amazing things that you did. This is amazing thing that you do and this is someone that's been going through a very difficult time for the past seven years and she and another message followed after that saying this is the first time that I've been able to drive on an evening. In in the past seven years and I question why and it was because of a ver own mental well-being. She was self-medicating. So it's the first time she's been sober on and evening for the past two weeks and has to come to the house to come to the hubs and now her Court last night. She said, I've got a bit of a sane now for 2020 and it's just like go get them. Yeah, like get up and go get him and I was like that's amazing that just two weeks of just come in and just talking. Definitely has changed around completely differently. I think we've got more steps as well that with like we've said this year what we want to do. So we've got the hub's we've got the app. What next? What do we do next? Yeah. That was gonna be my next question. What's next next? So we've got we've got a lot of long-term goals or put a wall up here. We want to write a few short weeks. Yeah. We have we have definitely I think this year we want to provide a counselling service. So we'll be able to offer because we've said we spoke about the the Gap the the way in the gaps are going to be able to provide. Where people can if they go to their places and they say come back in 12 week, but have you tried on Mast they've got counter-terrorist it can fit you in now. So that's the next step is just figuring out for us how we do that? Yeah, because obviously board I can see your look. Is it like a go board or if you got like a vision board and you got yourself is actually just Brown wrapping paper strips at while stuck to the wall columns, and we just write on there as much as possible any ideas we have yeah, that's one of our problems is that we have a million ideas. It's not a problem. It's good. We keep them in a Range to find out with and then we have to really back and think no we can do these a million 5 million things at once. We have to focus on these things first. So these things falling two years so that the counseling service is a big one for dog and a me obviously, but for me, I really want to open up another type of Hogan so we have the hub for absolutely anybody to attend but the Armed Forces really strong in my family through James and family, you know, my family a lot of them have been in the Navy have some that have been in the in the Army and stuff and my cousin approached me a couple of months ago and said, you know, I'd love to come to one of your hosts. But the problem is I feel like I have to explain my story of being in the Navy or being in the military and that whole you know, the whole that ground. I feel like a have to explain it for them to understand how I feel. Sorry really want to open a military base to put all like a Services hope so whether it's police force fire service. Thanks for a uniform uniform where people don't have to explain the story. They don't have to say that they've been on to five times. They just say this is how I feel I get you and the other person will get them. So that's why I'm wearing the camel today. Most amazing. Incredible. Can I just ask what would you what would you say? If there's someone listening to this and you could give them one piece of advice something that they can do to start feeling better. What would that be for me? It's got to be. I know it's cliche. Everybody says it is just talk really it really I bottle things up. As I said, I begin I've got PTSD I bottle things up. I didn't talk and that went on for years and years and years and it got to a point where I didn't want to be there anymore, and I don't try to tell me on life. And then a bottle that up and speak about that and it got worse again. It got to a point again while farmer doing and as soon as I spoke about it, and as soon as I let that release, it's like a sponge ice. It's like a sponge is only so much you can take before that spoil it on him so much water that can go in before he explodes and if you can't hold anymore and that's why like for me, so just talk to people and don't be afraid great advice Logan and I think mine's just sort of following on for that from that because I believe talk to me is the best the best therapy and stuff but you know life is hard and it is life's hard but together we can get through it and I think by career in these small pockets of friendships and you know connecting with other people to connect with people's really a Cornerstone of our life building connections strong connections. So, you know that I've got a strong group of friends now that I know that I if I don't talk to them for two years I can still go back to them tomorrow. Morrow and talk to them like it was yesterday when I saw them if you don't mean like and there the cornerstones of my life differently and like if have them people that can go to at any time so I think yeah life's life's really hard but together we can get through it and build them connections build them cornerstones for yourself. Incredible. Yeah. I'm all about Connections support positivity talking and and actually I just wanted to touch on that when I talk about the positivity and prosperity podcast. I Don't suggest that we have to be happy 24/7. I just suggest because it's not possible. And actually I think that leads to people then thinking I'm failing. I'm not doing a good job. I've had a negative thought and actually that's when you get that spiral that you were talking about where you know, people start clicking only see the negatives and the what if Downs as I call it actually we're human and it is inbuilt in us to have pessimism and to have negative thoughts because our subconscious thinks it's keeping us safe. So I just wanted to touch on that because cuz it is completely normal to hoping that it's negative thoughts but there is support out there and just one that's one thing that's really fun. We think we touched on it now because we do a lot of presentations and stuff dealt with but we always took you can't be happy 24/7. It's impossible. You're not here to get to live happily all the time. It's how you handle it. Yeah, you handle what happens that makes the difference? Yeah, and I can sort of get I can give a really good example of me personally what? Be to the last week and this is Summer and actually spoke to talk about so this is a this is a brand new thing and I opened up about it last night in the hub because I want to save it for the Hub. And that's how important these hubs out and talking to people because I needed to say in that group where I can just leave it in that room and this week. I've really really struggled and and sort of last week as well with with myself and self doubting myself and like you said, you can't be happy all the time. And so my partner well my wife Charlotte she is studying at the moment. She stood in public health at University and she decided to make that step last two years ago. Go back into education at the age of 34. So she's taking a big step and she's stood really really really hard at the moment. So she sort of locked herself in a conservative dress, or she can concentrate on that. And now the problem is that my daughter's really Mommy's girl and I've struggled this week because one I don't have my partner there all the time. It's weird waking up seeing my wife asleep and then leaving for work and getting home and not see my wife and then waiting until I wake up again the next morning to see you again. She's asleep. So I don't I haven't really spoke to a for a full week and then my daughter being a mommy's girl doesn't want to come to Daddy and it's really hurt me and it's really and you know again, I think of the worst things I think and being a rubbish parent, you know, I'm not being a good dad and stuff like that and and reality is just a mommy's girl. She's two year old and she's running around in she just wants mom to be there. So I wanted to give him a hug down the so this week. I've really struggled in my own mind at home because I think I'm doing the wrong thing and you know, I I'm trying so hard to get my daughter to be with me which you want to be with me because she just wants more and it's just played Amanda like this week. So I've used the Hogs personally this week a lot and I wanted to sort of balled it up, but I wanted to get it out in that room so I could leave it in that room and I could get people all I really wanted was someone to say now she's to she's going through terrible twos what Mom, she's just that's just how it is. For a you know for a short time she'll come round. It's your daughter you doing an amazing job. That's all I needed and that's why I got from the hope. So yeah, that's my sort of thing. It's not I'm not going to be happy all the time. And I did think of the worst thing but I need it at all and all I needed was someone there to just say it's okay. Definitely. It's okay to talk about it's okay to feel that way. It's natural and you know today I'm happy Jolly self like a I can only answer. I got it off my chest. And now I feel fine. Thanks. Thank you for sharing that and I think so many people will resonate with that because no matter if you're a Dad and Mum if you don't have children, if you're studying we all have that feeling of am I enough am I doing a good job? Am I making mistakes and that feeling of trying so hard and not perceiving to be getting where you want to get to is painful and I think the her I wish there was a hub near here because well, maybe there will be maybe that's maybe we need to kill you. Yes to be continued on that one. But yet because actually you just need I'm going to use the phrase reality check but I mean for someone to go you're doing an amazing job. She's a two-year-old. This is what's happening like that can just set you back into. Oh, okay. I'm doing a good job, right? Yeah. I'm human and I'm trying yes speaking about where we where you beer. So I'm going to put a pin in a map. No, I'm based in Peterborough Petes Americans that mate we've got an hour from London near Cambridge. Apart from Essex here depends where in Essex but this fundraiser as for using content, okay and a half two hours maybe from Kent that sort of thing closer than us. Yes exactly. You have to prison. Why do you compose fundraiser put you on the spot now? We got through it. Wow, I was gonna say, you know, you'll have to we'll have to have to chat after this and see how I can help you how I can support you because this is so so important it's been so So good to have you on actually well, I'm going to have you back you don't know this but at some point you're going to come back on and share the next steps, but how can people find out more about you if they've been listening to this? Where can they find you? What can they do? What steps can they take? Yeah. So the easiest place to find the finally the app is just on the App Store the App Store. So whether it be Google play or iOS, you know, Apple Store just typing unmask mental health, even if you're tapping your master. At the top of me that's not be there with the big U logo and then the best place to see us where we most active is obvious but Facebook really so in this past 11 months 12 months of money. We've managed to grow our social following two short 12,000 on Facebook. So we're quite out there on their we do live streams every Friday. Yeah, we're constantly on them constantly. Yeah, I think we wanted to create a platform like well Facebook we wanted it to be really personal. So people see us a lot instead of we do Porsche is positive courts and things like that. We do post of quite a bit of text and stuff, but we post a lot more about us. Yeah and and how we're going. You know how what size your weekly must have been doing stuff like that. So Facebook or Mash mental health Instagram or mass mental health Twitter is unmasked hitch is are at last hit on Twitter. So we're not we're on all the all the all the social media what we want to do though is grow. Which one is it wasn't called Instagram Instagram Instagram. We're really looking to grow as it's because we know with that comes so many different perks and stuff like that. So that's spread out evenly spread even further. Yeah, that's what we need to do. Right? So anyone listening to this episode. I want you. I'm going to leave the links in the show notes. I want you to go and follow and mass mental health and I'm going to challenge people to tell three people today about a mask mental health and to spread this because that's what you're doing. You're spreading a community or suppress spreading. Port and I want everyone listening to this episode if you follow me go and follow a mask mental health. I'm going to leave all the links. So it's really tag. We've got a hashtag one master stigma my sister. I love that seemed to be featuring on a post. Yeah. That's that's pretty is there anything else you would like to add before we end this episode? I think that's the thing. That's the most that people could do for ya. It's just followers. So other people can see how you know, how they can get help or it might be that you have a close family member. That doesn't know about this Social Media stuff all anything to do with the Mast and just by you sharing a post or liking that stuff really helps that one of the best ways to do it on Facebook is to go onto our page scroll across the community invite all your friends and then it just spreads text tip 30 seconds 30 seconds top to do it and it's not about how many people for us if you know what I mean? It's not like a showboat in things like or got 10,000 followers. It's there's 10,000 people on there that now know about unmask mental health and what we're trying to achieve by supporting people definitely and helping as much as possible. Definitely that's 10,000 people who could be feeling better as a result of communications with other people and that's so important along with my voice said, even if we help this was whole process just one person we've done his job then what we need to do. Yeah. I can't really think we've we've helped more, you know, massively absolutely massive leak. Thank you so much. Thank you so much for coming on for being so open sharing your stories and I am really excited to follow your journey as well. Yeah, definitely definitely really twisting our stories everywhere - we said next time next time we're going to our stories. It's been a pleasure to come on and thank you so much for having us. Definitely. Yeah, hopefully just by just doing this, you know one of your listeners it might touch them and they might Go ahead and download it download the app or get home. I would need a hobby ago. Have a horrible. Just make that step forward to make a change and hopefully feel better. So thank you for having us on so welcome and have a fantastic rest of your Friday you to have a great weekend.
**Doors to Manifesting Magic 2.0 are still open! ** Click here to join this 90 transformational program: https://victoriamaskell.lpages.co/manifesting-magic-course-2020/ Come and join the Instagram family here: www.instagram.com/victoria.maskell  In today's episode I am talking to Logan and Doug from Unmasked Mental Health all about the importance of sharing how we feel and reaching out for support. They have an incredible free app that you can download here: https://unmaskedmentalhealth.co.uk/unmasked-app/ You can also find out more on their socials: https://www.facebook.com/Unmaskedmentalhealth/ https://www.instagram.com/unmaskedmentalhealth/ https://twitter.com/UnmaskedH https://www.linkedin.com/in/unmasked-mental-health-69b24a177/  Who are Unmasked Mental Health and What do they do? We have also created the Uk's first peer to peer support App that is free of charge with no advertisements. You can remain completely annoymous, talk about how you're feeling and get things off your chest. This app is a 24-hour service that enables you to get support and give support in the comfort of your own home. Why we do it...👥 To give people a safe, non-judgement space to talk. To challenge the stigmas surrounding mental ill-health and to get people talking about their feelings. We know from our experiance living mental ill health, how difficult it can be to walk through the door of a support group, so we wanted to create the door by developing the App and also provide the groups once you have built the confidence to talk. Where we do it... 4 locations across Calderdale and more to be opened in the near future. Halifax Hub - King cross Fire station Sowerby Bridge Hub - Tesco Brighouse Hub - Tesco Mytholmroyd Hub - community centre When we do it...⌚ Every Thursday night. 7 pm 