Hi Kirby. Hi Sarah. Welcome to gloss Angeles. All right, guys, we have another exciting guest today. You might know dr. Loretta sir, Aldo MD faad as the creator of the cult favorite tightening eye gel which want to loras bested Beauty Awards in 2019. She is a highly sought-after board certified dermatologist with over 40 years of experience and Avid clinical researcher published author and and a regular on camera beauty experts her research experience started in 1975 in the Dermatology Department of Harvard Medical School where she performed early testing on the effects of UVA on human skin and contributed to the development of the Fitzpatrick skin type classification, which is so major and you know that she knows a lot about sun exposure just from that fact alone. She received her MD from downstate Medical College of State University of New York and completed her Dermatology residency at Einstein College of Medicine in the Bronx New York where she was selected as chief resident. Dr. Loretta is a line of anti-aging skincare products formulated with high concentrations of Advanced Medical grade actives combined with blends of the most beneficial essential oils and Botanical and Marine ingredients to ensure that the skin remains unexposed to harmful external influences. So please welcome. Dr. Loretta. It's a gloss Angeles Hi, how are you? I'm great and he so excited to be here with you. Oh my gosh that like your resume. Oh my God. I'm like tired for you. Oh, thank how do you do it all I think it's really a matter of passion. I am very passionate about everything I do and because I still practice as well. I really have a motivation and a goal to make people feel so much better about themselves more comfortable in their own skin and even really more confident as they age so you Sarge about my professional life. I also am a woman in my now my late 60s and I feel so much more confident probably than I did even about my appearance. I feel so much more confident than I did in my 30s. So my goal is really to share my passion and my confidence about aging with everyone and it just keeps me going. I really don't believe I will ever Tire of this the my gosh. I love that. You know, we are big fans of your products. It's and we've been using them for a while. I remember when I first met you Sarah was I don't know where you were that no, I was so sad. I couldn't come. Well we went had brunch coffee and it was I was like finally somebody that understands like you're an actual expert you've put in the time you've done the research. I mean, you're an actual doctor exactly. It's not like they're just slapped Dr. On the line, you know, they mean which I think a lot of people are Attempting to do these days like I will reach out to people and ask like, okay wait, so, you know, what are your certifications and it's kind of murky. So where they do like won't answer. Oh, yeah. They just the coast you that's always special. Yeah, but I remember when you told me about the Fitzpatrick skin type classification and your work with it. I was like, okay I since I'm I've been a sun screen junkies since I could read Allure magazine. That was good. That was the same. Yeah, right. I mean that was like the first skin Care tip I ever learned besides don't put black eyeliner on her lower lash line to keep the wrinkles. Remember her now is a big. Yes that I my gosh. I remember reading that when I was like 11 thinking no black eyeliner what I don't have any wrinkles to worry about money, but that all being said you're so informed you like essentially like wrote the book on this stuff. So we're so excited to have you here because you have a new launch that we're going to get to a little bit later in the show that I think you know, Blends beautifully with with your vision and what you're trying to bring out to the world. So yeah, we're just going to kick it off with some girl chat. Yeah, right. So as Kirby mentioned, you know, you are doctor you went to medical school and while you were in med school, you got a job at Harvard Medical School Dermatology Department doing research on the effects of UVA on the human skin. Why was this so interesting to you? Especially at that time? Well, I have to tell you that in medical school. This was after my first year. Of medical school when I arrived at this summer job in a laboratory and the very first day they gave me a little instrument and said go out on the lawn and this is going to measure if this thing called ultraviolet a reaches the surface of the Earth. So imagine in 1975. First of all, I had completed my first year of medical school and had actually never heard of ultraviolet a I think that and so I did find yes it did reach the surface of the Earth and then I went on to test human skin. To the effects of ultraviolet a unfortunately one of the very first people that we tested I'm sorry to say it was a lab partner and I she ended up in the burn unit of Massachusetts General Hospital because we gave her we had her out Under the Sun for too long. I think that what happened with me is it's sort of made me a bit of a mad scientist certainly an out-of-the-box thinker and so when you fast forward to the fact that I have The education and the clinical practice but it also a little bit of a historian and what I realize is that just like in the 1970s when we honestly had no idea that ultraviolet a might be damaging our skin and I think you know, I remember in the 70s how women would be as very common women did not work not very many women worked at all. Not very many women even went to medical school in the 1970s. So women spent an awful lot of time outside on Of the sun we didn't even have sunscreen that covered UVA now really 45 years later. I think we need to sort of revamp the way that we think about the factors that are damaging our skin and I think that I have that unique sort of historical background and and Decades of clinical practice and so over time. I really investigated. What are the factors that might be aging us so that you just went perfectly. On to our next question is that you believe that there are actually Four external factors that contribute to aging and you have proof that they actually contribute to 85% of corruptible and preventable skin aging which is nuts if it's that preventable why everybody doing it? So let's talk about what those factors are and what we should be doing to make sure that we're accurately and effectively protecting ourselves. Okay, so thank you and I love the Question in the way, you stated it. I would say that by Nature. I'm an extremely positive person. So I'm just going to sort of repeat Kirby the way that you stated. She said that and I'm going to talk about these factors that are aging and really sort of damaging your skin. But I love Kirby that the way you questioned me. You said that these are if we address them, they're both preventable and correctable changes, so I don't want to scare womankind or Mankind not want you to realize that although we might be sort of exposing ourselves to external aggressors that are responsible for about 85 percent of Aging changes that we can always almost always correct them to some degree and certainly prevent further damage. We're just so nice. Yeah, right. Yes, because most people are like they like to fear Monger. So it's nice that you're telling people. Okay, you know what you made a bad you made a boo-boo we can move forward with this and Honestly to prove that what I've done in my clinical testing is include Volunteers in their 70s and we've seen Improvement in their skin, very notable visible Improvement even well into their 70s. Wow. So what are the factors the first one is pollution and we know that pollution if you just look at populations who live in urban settings, which in America is over 80% of all Americans live in urban settings, but Urban versus rural settings that there are 22 percent more age spots associated with living in an urban setting we know that creases and wrinkles are deeper when you're in an urban setting and the urban setting is really the pollution Factor. Okay, and so pollution is a very big factor in aging our skin and causing a lot of changes that we often associate just with chronological aging especially Lines wrinkles creases and age spots. The other thing to know about pollution is that pollution is actually the rate of pollution. The amount of pollution is higher indoors than Outdoors. Whoa. Yes. So what that then practically speaks to is that it's a great idea to be aware of using skin care. Even if you're not going out for the day. That's I think that's like something that well, you know what we spoke to Renee. Hey, everyone, who is either like an aesthetician or dermatologist will tell you that but a lot of people just don't believe it which is so strange because yeah, you're like so they know this is the Environmental Protection Agency the World Health Organization. They have the stats and pollution levels are higher. The other thing that I want to tell you is that pollution really the way that it damages their skin is it causes free radical damage? Yeah, and so the kind of thing that Want to use the kind of ingredient we want to use to protect us from free radical damage has antioxidants and we'll be talking I think a little more about it because we use one extremely unique antioxidant and every one of our dr. Loretta regiments, which we'll talk about in the yeah. Yeah, definitely. Do you sorry to interrupt but just quickly do you have like an air purifier in every room of your home? Okay. So this is what I would like to tell you that if you look at our dr. Loretta. Gotta box is and you know all of our packaging we use the Expression skin unexposed want to keep our skin unexposed to this and really if you're protecting your skin with clothing that happens to be a very good protection from pollution. Now if you have any respiratory problems, then absolutely air filters are great. Okay, and that's what I did for that. But let's get back to the other Factor. Yeah. First is pollution. Yeah. The second is light. Now remember what I just said to you that 90% of our time is spent indoors. So yes, I do believe we have to protect ourselves from UVA and UVB but visible light is proving to be a really detrimental and damaging Force for skin. And so there's a very nice study that was published in the Dermatology literature the Journal of investigative Dermatology that shows that when the same person is exposed to ultraviolet a Or visible light the visible light actually produces more redness swelling and pigment then UVA. Okay. So for people that might not know what visible light means. Can you just so actually visible light is like indoor lights like we're sitting on top office playing and so yes, there's some amount of that. Especially that spectrum that called the blue light. Okay, and the biggest exposure is from indoor lighting but even more than light bulbs It's really coming from instruments that we or devices that we put our skin up to. So, especially our computers and our cell phones, which we are always doing that like an especially if you read your screen time on your phone. Yes for the day or for the week. It's actually horrifying to know how much it's seven hours just on your phone. Yeah, Dad. How many hours you spend staring at your laptop? Totally. I mean I guess for me. I'm glued to my phone and my computer because I'm a workaholic but like I would be less inclined to use those things. Now knowing right effects of the blue light or at the very least like protecting our skin at all times exactly. Like that's what drives me to do things. I'm like, oh it's gonna be tough again. Right? I mean, you're not alone every and remember that you know, I'm here not only to tell you the problem, but also this yeah totally totally but this is very informative to know so you have the pollution you Light next climate I think that all of us well, most of us agree that climate change is a reality and things like Greenhouse emissions, which really have all to do with carbon free radicals methane and other kinds of carbon free radicals in the air. So when it comes to climate whether it's outdoor climate with things like climate change and the carbon free radical damage that era skin undergoes from that or it indoors in climate control that most of us again 90% of our time is indoors and most of us are subject to either air conditioning or indoor heating right for most of the year. And what that does is it really lowers the humidity level and the air besides adjusting the temperature in lowering the middle humidity level. It's actually sucking the moisture out of our skin and we become dehydrated. So again the remembering the Read a products are trying to address all of these factors and then the last factor is irritants and if you buy something and you start to use it and all of a sudden your face gets red fine, you'll stop it. But what we really don't realize or many consumers don't realize is that there's what we call and dermatology subclinical irritation. Meaning you really don't even realize that some of the ingredients and a product are somewhat Bob. Other SIM to your skin and so over time you may have a little bit of redness you may have just a little bit of even Broken Vessels or whatever. Not only is that going to be causing the change of increased redness and blotchiness which by the way is often sort of misdiagnosis rosacea or sensitive skin, but we know that irritants cause what we call like an inflammation in our skin that actually makes our collagen breakdown faster. and that really ages are skin more because when collagen breaks down we see the exaggeration of lines and all so the four factors that as we're sitting right here sort of attacking our skin, but hopefully not mine because I've got all my doctor learn about the four factors that I really want to help you with the external aggressors the environmental damage that we're all under going 24/7 or the exposure to pollutants to light both visible and UV a to climate conditions and to irritants so in developing the dr. Loretta line, I really didn't just want to take advantage of the fact that I'm a 40-year dermatologist. I really wanted to come up with a very unique approach. I love women and man to stop thinking that they're just aging because of their age or because of sun damage and it's really that we need to be protecting our skin and addressing all four of those. All aggressors. It's so interesting because the first thing you did bring up was the pollution and to be completely honest. I feel like Sarah you could probably speak to this too. But growing up that was not something that was really harped on. It's alright antioxidants. We would hear that they were in skincare products, but to be completely honest it was kind of like, okay, whatever and antioxidants in our product great and I feel like it's only recently become such a big buzzword in the skincare industry whereas, you know sun damage and you know, No, sunscreen all that. I mean we like Kirby said you like we grew up just slathering it all over our face trying to stay under out of the sun. Yeah, because that's what we felt like, you know equated to aging and I and I also feel like, you know, I keep thinking of like commercials on TV where it would talk about antioxidants or like, you know pollution or whatever and it kind of goes over people's heads because they don't understand what free radical means and I think that's why it's easy for people to kind of like Look it as a main factor because they're like well, what is it, whatever I like I have to go outside or I have to do, you know, I have to be around it's happening inside exactly. So I think it's important because I noticed that when I was, you know reading up on the brands like the number one like it's not the number one, but in order you talk about pollution first then and so I feel like that's something that huge takeaway is you think about and what I would like to say A 2 is that in that way us saying that we're addressing pollution at the dr. Loretta line that does not sound all that unique, but we are addressing it in a very Advanced way. And so I'd like to actually have we elaborate on that. So the first thing is that you have to realize that pollution particles or very minut. Some of them are up to 30 times smaller than the size of are pores. So they really Deeply into our skin the too bad. They're not good for you and I need it done because we're having a nice right be awesome if they were great for your skin and right. Yeah the exact a really great lesson, right? So one of the ways that we're addressing it is with our gentle hydrating cleanser and that cleanser has a lot of good things. It's got beneficial essential oils. It's got firming Marine peptides, but it also has a specific Marine extract which is able to absorb. Herb, these tiny microscopic particles. Okay, and so what I really like so this is called The Gentle hydrating cleanser and I love if now that we're sort of educating our listeners to the fact that pollution is very high levels indoors as well as out. I love people to consider washing their face twice a day that why because when we sleep at night, we're really rubbing our faces into the pillowcase, which is Laden with dust mites and other Carrie's of pollution particles. So this is one way to use our our hydrating cleanser and actually what I use myself how I use it as I don't even mix it with water. I just sort of rub it onto my face a little bit like a mask. Okay, leave it on for a 2 to 3 minutes while I sort of do something like brush my teeth and then wash it off to give it the time to absorb these pollution particles. So that is one very unique way that we're addressing pollution. Then all of our products all of our regimens because we do make three different regimens, but all very regimens highlight a wonderful antioxidant called a lipo croman. Okay. Yeah. This is what you were discussing and lipo croman is the strongest antioxidant that exists. So it's stronger than vitamin C vitamin e ET bananas. It's the idibon OWN on on the assay for antioxidant strength 80 be known as the second strongest and the Why poke Ramen is 11 times stronger than that. Wow, but even more than that, remember that antioxidants or really serving the specific purpose of mitigating the damage from free radicals. So if you read about free radicals what you almost always going to hear is this antioxidant is great for oxygen free radicals. But remember just a few moments ago. We were talking about climate change. I said, that's really predominantly carbon. Free radicals if you turn on a gas stove its carbon free radicals secondhand smoke is nitrogen free radicals car exhaust fumes or oxygen but also very much nitrogen and carbon free radicals and lipo croman and this one is really dead Tada. Michael Coleman is the only antioxidant that protects the skin from not only oxygen but also nitrogen and carbon Free radicals wow, so we do like to emphasize that our line is really a combination of picking the best most beneficial ingredients from nature, but also from the medical field and so lipo chroman is a synthetic. I will say that the way that this was created is it was synthesized in the laboratory and it was originally used only for medical purposes and to this day it is still used internally to treat cancer. A patient's but we're using a topical. We're not making any kind of medical claims. It's certainly not a cancer drug, but it is a Powerhouse antioxidant that will really protect your skin from all three kinds of free radical damage carbon oxygen and nitrogen free radicals. Well, I mean, I've literally never even heard. Yes. Why is awesome why is it that other you know skin care Brands maybe aren't using that antioxidant. Well, I think it's a couple of things number one. This was something that literally because I've been making products for the medical arena for years. I discovered this product. It's from Europe. I discovered this ingredient. And also I do have to say that many times bigger companies take decades before they will bring a product or ingredient to Market. I think the fact that obviously my grant is very easy access to clinical testing because I do do it myself, you know, we can bring things to Market faster. Also, I will mention to you that there is a growing Trend in skincare for consumers to be told to use natural ingredients Yep. This is a synthetic and what we believe extremely what I believe as a physician and as a skin care expert is that there are instances where synthetic ingredients because Really have advanced benefits their preferable to the Natural ingredients. Actually the way that the Lipo croman was synthesized the laboratory says it was bio inspired by vitamin A. They sort of took the by vitamin E molecule and super powered up and may the light book Roman that's amazing while I'm like loving all of this and learning so much a ously. So as you mentioned you've been formulating skin care products for medical practices since 1993. And you clearly love, you know sun protection, but you didn't initially launched with a sunscreen when you created your brand. Is there was there a reason for that. Yeah, I will tell you that we did Just Launch our sunscreen, although we have been working on it for a full over three years and that actually I think relates back to me. I was very fortunate just last month to be lecturing to 550 cosmetic chemists at the sunscreen symposium. I'm so jealous. Yes, and I was very proud to because there were a lot of members of the FDA there and they came up on complimented me. One of them came up the head of the non-prescription drugs. They have take him up and complimented me on my talk. I started the talk by saying as a dermatologist with 40 years of experience the advice that I give to each and every patient when they ask me, dr. Sorrell de what sunscreen should I use is one simple advice? I want you to use the sunscreen that you like, right? And it took me three years to develop a product that Not only was medically sound and I'd say sort of cosmetically elegant but really super user-friendly and I had very specific Gold's I wanted that sunscreen to be able to serve as even a lightweight moisturizer eye makeup primer. You can also use it in lieu of a light foundation and so it Really took that long. We also have vanilla. I'm sorry, but no and lavender essential oil to knew we wanted that send to be something that we Pleasant enough but really not at all overpowering we wanted it to blend with all skin tones up to that Fitzpatrick type sick. So even if you have very dark skin, it will blend in and so it really took this salon and of course it does contain lipoic Roman because one of the The things that light does whether it's visible light or ultraviolet light is it causes a lot of free radical damage? So it has light book Roman and last of all it also has blue light protection. Yeah Phil is extremely important. So well, no wonder it took you so long to develop a yes and like I mean like a Powerhouse of a sunscreen and we're looking at the package right now and it says multifaceted protection from uva/uvb. HEV and pollution, which I don't think I've ever seen a sunscreen that mentions the last two. I mean, yeah, you wouldn't usually for sunscreens. It's like UVA UVB like broad spectrum, you know, yeah. Yeah. Yeah exactly. That's it. Yeah, so I have to tell you that at the sunscreen Symposium everyone in attendance the 550 people, you know who are all chemists or FDA members. I know they all said of course sunscreen on these blue light we need the aah. Uh, and by the way, we're using the words blue light visible light and that term HEV which stands for high energy visible. We're using them interchangeably. Okay got it. So the 550 experts at the sunscreens opposing wall said, of course, we know that we have to have blue light protection in sunscreen, but the consumer does not know this again again being a small company we're able to get things to Market faster. We are definitely the first time Market sunscreen that protects you from all three types of free radicals that are caused by pollution and from the HEV or visible light from digital screens and also remember and I don't I'm sorry that I don't think I did mention this that the sun emits more of the blue light than even UVA and UVB combined when we go outside. Yeah when you go outside and you see the sky is blue that's blue light. There is a reason why the sky Is blue wow love that really most people do not know it and I think that really one of my biggest goals is educating and again not educating to be a fear Monger whatsoever. But to really make people believe that no matter what your age you can have some visible reversal of things that You don't like about your skin and you can certainly prevent so much future damage just by protecting yourself from these for damaging factors. Yes, I mean knowledge is power. So we're of the same opinion. Dr. Loretta. I didn't Kirby have you Swatch this yet? No, I didn't even open. I love the formula it goes on so smooth it absorbs so quickly and I feel like with a lot of sunscreens especially ones that act as you know moisturizers. And tries to do all this stuff. It's super chalky or it's really thick and this one just oh my gosh feels really really hydrating on the skin. And like I said just absolutely absorbed so quickly. Yeah. Oh my gosh, it's already absorbed face. So it's like it has a matte finish. Yes. It really leaves your skin looking better than before you put on and you know, that was my goal. Not that me as a dermatologist tells you. Oh, you got to put on sunscreen. It's that you want to put it on because you like the way your skin looks that mmm. Idiot lie when you put it on your skin looks a little bit better. I mean, I know so many friends of mine who don't like to wear sunscreen because they don't like how it looks on their skin how it feels under makeup and I'm just like how it smells nice. Yeah, and this has a very light smell but it's I was going to say she mentioned. Yes, you mentioned not but you can barely see ya. It's very like I almost like I can smell it like faintly right, but it doesn't linger. So what you have to know is We use very minut very low percentages of the essential oils. Yep to make it a pleasant experience on application but not then the say exactly it's going to dissipate immediately totally. So it's actually funny that you mention that because we have an episode where we talk about skincare ingredients were a little weary of when we see them like in a package or we hear that there and a product and one of them is essential oils but to your point it's how it's formulated. Right and it's the concentration of exactly I Thanks a lot. Honestly expertise does matter in formulating and essential oils need to be put into formulas typically in the range of 0.5 percent or less. So most of our I don't think that we actually have a single formula were even up 2.5% and many of our formulations were at 0 .01 percent. Yeah. Yeah, so yeah, that's where I think there's been misinformation you another thing. I must jump in to say to you you came up at the sunscreen Symposium that I just attended or election about silicon know as a dermatologist. I think that many silicones are extremely beneficial even in terms of helping penetration certainly getting an even spread and one thing that is really again, I'm sorry to say almost like little bit of misinformation is that So called chemical free sunscreens that use zinc. Typically the most common most almost all zinc's that are used are coated with silicone. So when a line says our silicone free their chemical free fine, but do understand that the meaning of that term is a little bit dubious and trip frankly inaccurate because there's think is silicone coated which is very very helpful to get better spreadability. Got it. So even though it's good for the spread. They're still not being a hundred percent accurate with their claim. Yes. And also I think that again my experience has been that silicon is a very helpful ingredient that again, it really can help to maximize the absorption of beneficial ingredients and to get a very even spread of product Yasser when it's silicone get a bad rap. Like I feel like a couple of years. Yeah and people have been messaging us like, but does it have Then it and what are your thoughts and silicones of my are we supposed to not like I mean what's to dr. Letters point is just there's so much misinformation. But I mean, it's such a confusing industry. And you know, how are we supposed to find out especially if we're not experts or beauty editors? Like what is what is your advice when it comes to finding a product that you know, maybe has silicones and how do we know whether or not it's okay? Okay. So the very first thing I'd like to almost take it into a little broader question or and to say that I think that if you are having Having any issues with your skin. You should actually research the ingredient list on each of the products that you're using for instance a very common thing that I see in my office. So often is perioral dermatitis, which really is just sort of like acne around the around the mouth area. Okay, and some of the very popular scrubs that are used on the first thing that we dermatologist say if someone comes in and they're breaking out around their mouth is please do not Is anything with Mint or cinnamon? No, very commonly. People will use dental floss that's been flavored or cinnamon flavored. But unfortunately some of the more common scrubs have cinnamon essential oil. Now this is sort of really not good for the problem that you have because here we dermatologist is saying, you know avoid doing certain things this will clear you up, but then the very ingredients in the products that you're using become a problem. So this is the first thing that I like to say try to research all of the ingredient listing and I'm not saying that you need to always do this on your own, you know, you can go to your dermatologist. But for instance when I get in a new patient, we ask them to bring in the products that they're using so we can take a look if you don't have easy access to a dermatologist or or maybe you don't even have the listing of ingredients on your products because they're on the box you threw away the box then aside I would recommend first of all you can To the manufacturers site at the dr. Loretta site. We have the full ingredient listing on every single product that we make but in case you are using products where the manufacturer doesn't have the ingredient listing if it's on Durham store Durham store is a very good site that will list the full ingredient deck. We loved we loved our so yes, we I do too so underrated. Yeah, and then they have amazing sale that people don't even know about. Yeah, so I think I I do really like that. I even asked patient Joe take a look at everything like I'm saying to you don't use dental floss that has cinnamon. But please make sure that you know, your exfoliator doesn't have cinnamon and at this kind of thing so so when you say yeah, but that sort of depends on what the person's problem is. Yeah. Sure Believe It or Not parabens, which is became much less popular years ago. They're still in a lot of a lot of the big Brands to have paraben. Yeah, you know. If you don't have any problems, if it's been linked possibly to breast cancer, you know, if you don't have breast cancer the family maybe you want to finish up something to have with parabens, you know, I think that it's going to be on an individual basis, but I really do think that you need to reflect on the expertise of the people behind the brand agreed. And so that point I want to you talked about seeing clients come in and they have acne around their mouth. This leads me to Common skin. Care conundrums that you see I'm curious. What are the most common skin care issues? You see with I want to just go with women in this case Yemen and their 20s women in their 30s and women in their 40s. Is there something that you notice trend-wise for each category? Okay. The first thing that I'd say is that we are starting to see an awful lot of women in their 20s coming in complaining of crows feet. Okay, and this is a huge shift from Years ago. Yeah, I don't think that people of 25 even understand what the word proceed was totally, you know in the 1970s and as a dermatologist, I do blame this on digital screens for sure. And actually I'm sitting with you ladies and you have on as a gift with purchase right now for the launch of our sunscreen. We have blue light protective screen protective glasses and their piece gift. They're so cute so cute. So we're wearing them. And so the first thing I do want to How you is if you wear contact lenses or prescription glasses the ophthalmologist the eye doctors recognize long ago how damaging blue light was to your eyes. So if you're wearing prescription contacts your eyes are being protected from Blue like thank God why we made these are nice big round glasses and why we did that is because an awful lot of people who have dark under eye circles really have them because they're sitting at the computer and you know eight hours a day. Remember we said that that Digital Light gives you more hyperpigmentation more Darkness than even ultraviolet. So they've already done studies that prove this. Yes, we might even have a Graphic that it from a published study that shows really how much more redness swelling and pigment you get from the blue light not only immediately on exposure but even a week later you still have God does it matter how close you are to the screen or to your phone? Own. Yeah, so what I would say is that they haven't done enough studies with that but definitely, you know, I will tell you that some dermatologists will say to me well read a you know, you really are you know, the light that's emitted by the computer screen is not as much as the blue light emitted by the Sun. How do you know it's problem. I think that the difference is that you are holding your face directly in front of that form of actual light. Radiation and so you're focusing on it. And that's why I will tell you that. I started to even teach the Dermatology residents how to administer Botox 26 years ago. Wow, 26 years ago. Our average person coming in who is interested in Botox was in their 40s now practicing in Miami as I do many 20 year olds are coming in asking if they're ready for botox for the crow's feet. So that's one thing that I'm saying. Okay, the next thing I'm seeing is that a lot of people in there a lot of women in their 20s, and I think it's because women are coming and saying gee whiz I didn't have this much acne in high school. And now I've got it in my 20s what's going on and what I see not only is what we're starting to call adult acne in the 20s and we know that adult acne is most common form of acne, but I'm also seeing a trend of a lot of exfoliation a lot of at home exfoliation and like I lose Two before you know, it may be good. But then again in that exfoliating product it might be exposing yourself to things that can make you break out more with your acne. So I think that you've got to be a little bit careful. There's such a thing as too much of a good thing and I think that that can lead to sensitivity all of this at home aggression and then by the 30s. Wow, sometimes on some days it seems like half of the women who come in to see me in their 30s tell me that they have Have rosacea and you can't see me listeners, but I'm making this in quote marks because I think that a lot of times this redness that you're experiencing on your face is really an inflammation and irritation from all the stuff you're doing, you know, if you follow what the Koreans are saying and I have respect for them their dermatologist or excellent. But Korean skincare is advocating 10 steps a day. I think that that's falling into a huge trap. Overexposure and overstimulation you all I feel like you just named everything every issue that all of our listeners have like submitted questions about. Yeah, and maybe it was like talking to me directly. I was because we've talked about this. I have a little bit of redness in my cheeks and I'm like, is it rosacea? Like, what is it? And then yeah, I mean you really just words it blue. Why is it weird answer? Right? Yeah. I was a chronic goes but now were formed over exfoliator. I I learned that I had to stop doing both physical and chemical exfoliants every single day because I was a crazy person and what's funny is I had an actual doctor tell me that I had rosacea because of my skin, but they didn't spend that much time with me to be completely honest and didn't ask me that many questions and the sign that you're like, yeah, and they wanted to put me on Accutane. Wow and told me like, I mean also told me insane stuff like you have rosacea. If you don't get this taken care of now you're going to Big bulbous nose and like yeah, it was like the weirdest thing ever. I have never said this was for five years ago. Like I remember like being in the office about to sign that I was gonna like have two forms of birth control to like make sure that my like if I'm sharing it on Accutane, I'm like, I'm not taking Accutane. Why am I on Accutane? I don't need to be on you didn't go on your skin was probably great the sad part and obviously we don't like to drag people on this podcast, so I'm not going to be The sad part is that this person does make amazing skincare products that I use and actually like but it does concern me that this person was gnosis. Yeah, like I'm like, maybe you should retire I think you've been doing this like way too long. Maybe you're just bored because now you have nothing interesting to say to me well, and I'd sort of like to address that too. I am that it's very important. If you do go to the dermatologist and I will say I do think that if you make a Dermatology Appointment that you have the right to be seen by the board certified dermatologist and many states. We have physician extenders. So you go in you think you're being seen by a board certified dermatologist and instead you have the physician's assistant or the nurse practitioner. I think that if it's a problem that is distressing to you be sure you're seen by the board certified dermatologist and the second thing is that I believe in always starting with topical care, you know. If topical care fails we can go on but I will tell you recently a patient came in who told me she'd been diagnosed with lupus and I said, you know skin lupus and I said, you know gee whiz you've got this rash. It was redness on her nose and she's bright red. And I said, you know, it's sort of funny because typically the lupus is going to act up if you're in the Sun a lot or you in the Sun a lot and she said, oh are you kidding? I'm 10 hours a day in front of a computer. And so I Give her actually at that time our sunscreen hadn't been out yet. But we have a moisturizer called the anti-aging repair moisturizer. I gave her samples of it. And I said, let me take a picture of your face on your phone today and these are enough samples to last year for a week. I'd like you to put it on this moisturizer day and night and let's see you in a week and when she came back in a week, I didn't recognize her. Wow, and so what I do. Believe and I say this was so much respect to my profession. But I do believe that in dermatology practices. We are seeing a lot of skin cancer. Unfortunately, even the incidence of melanoma has increased we're seeing, you know, all time highs with many kinds of skin cancer in pre-cancers and often times other skin conditions non-cancer conditions sort of many doctors sort of just Rush and say oh, you know, this is a form of acne. Let me put you on this pill. Oh your blood test looks like you may have Lupus. I see your face is red. This is lupus and they wanted actually to put this patient on internal medication when really all she needed was blue light protection, right? So really many times in my own practice. I'm actually the fourth or fifth dermatologist that the patient is seeing because that particular particular patient and this is many patients right now. They really aren't willing to settle for attend that a consultation where they were given oral drugs to use a prescription for oral drugs. So that's an aside find a doctor that you believe is compassionate and we'll spend time with you. Yeah, and and go in sort of having done a little bit of your own research Accutane, you know, there are 10 drugs that the fu FDA Associates with Shin, and Suicidal Thoughts Accutane is on the list of 10 and it's the only non psychiatric drug on that list. You know, some Studies have said many studies published in the US have said that Accutane maybe doesn't increase the incidence of suicide, but there was a study published in England that in an animal study that showed that Accutane will make Rats show signs of depression take them off the Accutane the depression clears put them back on it goes back and so in animal studies Are pretty objective so don't don't take medicine internally unless you have so researched it totally. Well. I agree with that 100% Okay, you've answered. So many is there anything else you wanted to add in regards to things you're seeing and women 20 30s or 40s? Yeah. One other thing that I would say is that right now there's also a big trend for using at-home devices. Okay, and so it's sort of like to comment on that a little bit. Simple things or for instance cleansing with brushes. I think that that may be okay or the foreo, you know, but really be sure to clean whatever surface is going onto your skin before you apply it to your skin because do you feel like it's even necessary though to use a cleansing brush, right? So this is the thing a cleansing brush is a physical device right our gentle hide. Drain and cleanser that gets rid of microscopic particles is truly. I think a better situation also with aging and this starts by our 30s a lot of times the top layer of skin is getting a little thinner that epidermis and so blood vessels come a little closer to the surface. Sometimes the agitation from using a brush or device can make the skin get red or so. I'm not that in favor of that device. Another device would be A lot of people are now using at home micro-needling now that I have to tell you if you are gentle with it. I think that that can help a lot. Okay, and that I've seen that help with acne scars with lip lines things like this. But again, the whole context should be never do too much of a good thing and every single thing you do, even if you want to exfoliate, you know a start depending on your skin type we make An exfoliating pad a glycolic pad that has peptides to hydrate and stuff and we say, you know three to seven times a week. If you've never explained it before started three times a week yet. No gradually get into this at home kind of device or you know ritual. I think that that's very important and not overdo. Also, you know to your point about micro needling you should never be trying to achieve the same result as you would get from a professional All who's using? Like you should National pain, right? You shouldn't I have the same length of the needle with the you are so right. I do agree with you there. And you know now with the internet people are having access to very deep needles which really can also cause scarring. So I love as you two are suggesting. I think the best thing is go to a dermatologist that you have confidence in and even discuss your at home routine. And if there is a place for at-home devices for you, and really I'm I think it's great. If you can find a doctor who also believes in at home skincare. The other thing I'm seeing is that a lot of women are getting too many procedures done. And so, you know, we're seeing women with things that are out of proportion, you know cheeks that look like what we call the moon face where their faces just one round ball. Now you have very little hard. Look like they've just been so super inflated. I love that serious laughing sleep. Very large right very large. No. No, absolutely. You're right and I feel like because of social media to just obviously getting worse. Well, they like they why agree, they band filters on Instagram that look like you've had cosmetic enhancements, but I also would argue. Okay. Well, then you need to get rid of the Paris filter because the Paris folks are Smooths your skin or and makes you look better as like Kirby the photo that you posted on your Instagram over the weekend is like I just feel and like the caption that you wrote like basically it was Kurt. She didn't have any makeup on it. Yes, it's you're showing how her real skin looks and I feel like that is so powerful because so many of us are just like naive and thinking that you know, Kim Kardashian looks like Kim Kardashian, but then when you see Kim Kardashian important, don't get me wrong. She let me Johnny. She has to be she's poor. Yes, and she's I mean, obviously she is so beautiful like yes and has access to all of these different things but we are like all human. She's 40 years old. Yeah 39:39. I'm sorry. I'm sorry and Kirby. I also saw that she posted and I think that that's wonderful. I call you an Instagram hero. I think I said it was very true because I think that so many especially younger women really feel that if they if they fall short of perfect. They're inadequate. Yeah, and it's so important that real pictures are going up seeing us. If you could have seen me I'm staying in a hotel and I ran down for some coffee and my hair was a mess and I did not have Stitch of makeup on and I looked in the mirror while I was waiting for the elevator. I thought oh my gosh. No, but this is how we truly are and really it's very very difficult. I think for young women to live in the times of Instagram. And none of us is perfect. In fact perfect is boring. In my opinion. I am Candi perfect. Right and it's so important to really sort of practice self-love and besides the fact that I think you have to be careful about taking Instagram too. Seriously. The other thing that I'm a real believer in is throwing away the magnifying mirrors. No, I think that even young women do use them. Let's say to put on eyeliner, but then they they see pores that just really no one else will see why they're seeing a crow's feet that you know is invisible to the rest of the world. So we need to really I always say sort of when you're looking at yourself in the mirror to get the best view of yourself as other see you stay arm's length distance from an on my magnifying mirror and that's how others see us and you know, really I do if you remember Perfection is boring. I really do feel that I've got a lot of lines that come from years of smiling and a really a joyful life and I think we almost need to focus more on achieving personal happiness and self-acceptance so much more than the goal of perfection. It's just it doesn't exist. And it's something that none of us should be chasing in my opinion. I love that. I love your outlook. Yeah, and you are beautiful inside our yes, so you are our I say this a lot, but the people come on our show are walking Billboards for their work because true everybody looks amazing. And obviously I feel like a lot of that too comes internally like how you feel about treating other people how you feel about yourself. So, you know, it's also about self-love not just skin love to very true be kinder to yourselves. Thank you for that reminder and thank you for creating these beautiful products. I cannot wait to put the sunscreen on. Yes. I'm so excited about the sunscreen so it Just launched, right and so you can get it. Now. You can purchase it now and the gift with purchase are these Amazing Blue Light glasses. They're playing Hank. They they have big round frames. So they cover your whole orbital bone area. You're completely protected. So you take a picture very yes Instagram. Dr. Loretta. Where can we find you online? If we want to follow you great. Thank you. So we're at dr. Loretta.com DRL r ett. A.com. Cam awesome and I are Instagram is at dr. Loretta meeting and then where can we purchase your product? So again on our website were also at 17 Nordstrom's right now. We're on Durham store. We're on anthropology.com and actually think it is. We're up to about 60 doors right now. So we're very excited Gratz amazing graduations. Also, I'm going to say guys when you pick up the sunscreen if you're looking for one other product to get make it the eye gel. Yes, I'm obsessed with this stuff. There is a reason why it's won an award from a lore. It is truly. I don't believe in eye creams. Usually I'm very skeptical. It's like one of the only things that I've actually seen feel like they hate us before I know they're like like there's a lot of family was like don't buy one. No, but if you're going to get one the little gel the gel is amazing. So, dr. Arata. Thank you so much for taking on so much. I learned so much. Me, too. 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You might know Dr. Loretta Ciraldo, MD, FAAD, as the creator of the cult-favorite Tightening Eye Gel, which won Allure’s Best of Beauty Awards this year. She is a highly sought-after board-certified dermatologist with over 40 years of experience, an avid clinical researcher, published author, and a regular on-camera expert. Her research experience started in 1975 in the Dermatology Department of Harvard Medical School, where she performed early testing on the effects of UVA on human skin and contributed to the development of the Fitzpatrick Skin Type Classification — so she knows a lot about sun exposure. She received her MD from Downstate Medical College of State University of New York and completed her dermatology residency at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in the Bronx, NY, where she was selected as Chief Resident. Dr. Loretta is line of anti-aging skincare products, formulated with high concentrations of advanced medical-grade actives, combined with blends of the most beneficial essential oils and botanical and marine ingredients to ensure that skin remains unexposed to harmful external influences. In today's episode, we're discussing how blue light may be contributing to your skin in a negative way, which is why sunscreen is essential every single day — even indoors. --- Follow us on Instagram: instagram.com/Gloss_Angeles Shop all of our product lists: http://www.shopstyle.com/shop/GlossAngeles Shop Kirbie’s stash: https://www.shopstyle.com/shop/Kirbie-Johnson Shop Sara’s stash: https://www.shopstyle.com/shop/saratan Gloss Angeles is co-hosted by Kirbie Johnson and Sara Tan. Our editor is Patrick Muldowney. 