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Whoever that is the Marvel TV weekly Starts Now You're tuned in to AfterBuzz TV the ESPN of TB top now let them go. Yes, welcome to Marvel TV weekly which looks suspiciously like the legion after-show panel. I'm Kristen biot joined as always by the lovely and talented Z Anderson. I'm still thinking these you know as we talked about me sometimes don't don't get used to it that as we mentioned last week you and I met on the legion after yeah, we did and I bullied you into joining the show and it's a full year over. Your layer every year later and here I am Holy every week. We hate each other a little bit more just a little bit but that serves of course the wonderful Alana Jordan. Hey, that's me and over on the couch. We have David's Angels We Have Heard on the couch right now Kathy. Well, what do the framing you guys had to say right next to each other, which is amazing. I am too and those this life. Jeff Williams jr. I think is important to say not to confuse with Ray Parker jr. I thought you're gonna say my dad but there's two we could get one more on the couch anyway so much to talk about but mostly Legion and all honesty. It's there. What's up a lot of Legions. There's a lot of the job. So many We Are Legion there. Well, yes, we are shockingly G. We have all gotten to talk about what we thought about the legion finale and if you didn't watch To the legion after show you probably don't need to because we're going to kind of just say all the same things. No, we're going to rehash a little bit more but xia I would like mostly out of curiosity. I would like to know just your overall thoughts on the episode the series finale and if you how you feel it did as a punctuation mark on the end of the series it was interesting. I liked it. I found myself through a lot of like Parts in the show or in the episode being like Oh my God, I really love this show and there are so many reasons in this episode. Why I love this show but it was kind of anticlimactic as far as a finale goes. It's not it's not what I was expecting and I'm not sure if it's a good thing or a bad thing yet. I'm honestly still thinking about it. I didn't see it going that way the way that it went with farook was not only didn't. Yeah, it was not at all what I was thinking. I think none of us saw it going that way right? You know you guys talk about Feelings and emotions and then nothing about it for a little bit. Well that makes one of us enjoy the music part. I actually wrote in my notes here that I so I hate if anyone that knows me knows that I hate musicals hate them hate them all. I will not watch musicals. I haven't seen any of the Disney live-action remakes because there's so much singing craps, whatever you seen. Thank you cartoons, and they do but child and then I got to a certain age probably might like emo teen aged fans. Like the socks and I just never grew out of it. You know what you suck but the Green Day the musical there's a musical for every topic but you would definitely love Book of Mormon. I have no doubt. So I was saying that I don't like I don't like musicals Book of Mormon is fine because it's hilarious, but I enjoy the music scenes in the show so much. I mean partly because it's like every single one is Pink Floyd, so Right can't hate it. So to that for for that, it's awesome. So I actually really enjoy that and I think that I don't know how you've because I haven't done the show with you. How do you feel about the rap battle? It was it was entertaining like it was it was fun. It was light but like I want more action. And so I mean I enjoyed that one more than the regular than the last the season finale song. Okay good because like it was entertaining. It was light. It wasn't long. It wasn't a whole song. We got the whole song in season finale. And also by the way, I have that episode with the rap battle Elena also like that episode xia like that episode. You're the only people I know who that is. That's why you have to be The next to each other happy Campbell have a rap battle later really battle you guys. I'll tell you why you're wrong. What are you gonna say happycabbie? Well, I was just going to say they like represent the carries right now. Yeah, they're very young girl carries young and I'm old Carrie. I got it. That's fine. I'm in a wheelchair all Vermilion. Let's be honest kind of like kind of conduit Diaz said though about Pink Floyd. I'm not a huge fan of it only because I just haven't heard a lot. I mean, I think I have heard their music but it just is never like a hundred percent clicked with me, but I did love how they tied in Pink Floyd to David's story. Like that is some Artistry right there. I thought it was amazing how they were able to put each song to like the exact right moment in the show the lyrics to mother which was the In the series finale it fits. So well as we talked about on the region after show to the extent Alexa, you actually thought that that was an original so you just did yeah. I didn't know the song I was like, oh, it's this works. Well, I guess this moment I guess they wrote it for and they're like no, it's Pink Floyd. He's like however is on number two best-selling record of all time, but that's besides the point, but it's I think it's interesting that it fits so well. Because you just want to talk like obviously the song wouldn't have existed because it's a speak so much to it. But they're the Pink Floyd just sort of overtones throughout the series is the sort of thing that always had me feeling what I've talked about many times on this show the legion after-show and also on Marvel movies. I'll talk about it anywhere. I'll talk about it when the camera's not on about what I didn't want this finale to be David back in the pilot sitting there in the mental hospital and it was all in his head the whole time. Okay, they didn't do that, but I didn't but God. God they didn't but they with her with her name being sit there and and having a lot of that a lot of the I know you said think it kind of close to it. No, it wasn't as bad as what you say but was still like and at least happened but then this was like it was like yeah, but then he got a hard reset, you know, it's like when they wake up and live their new life into within a snow globe. They just didn't tell you that part. So it's not time travel into anything. There's a large. Chance that's not going to go anywhere good. You know what? I mean? I just feel like time travel doesn't it's just very hard Concepts not going to enjoy Avengers and game when you get every I feel like I can't say anything because I one of my favorite shows in the world is is all time travel doctor do with time travel is bad back to the Futures one of my favorite series of all time and it's you know revolves around time, but I feel like I'm sorry gotta go back and look for Mom that changes. Yeah, I know but you know, it's just like hit or miss with time. So here's so Back To The Future Doctor Who those are both things that day one you're dealing with time travel when time travel is added in a little bit later The Avengers and game and yes, I'm mostly saying this to annoy Ryan in the booth, but it's true lost when you start dealing with time travel and Everything but you didn't think out your time travel and I think Avengers endgame the the time travel is infuriating. But and as we don't need to explain what Marvel movies Alexa has seen because the last time she was on the show. We did wait a few enemies. Yeah, they did not make it not like the original. Yeah. She's like the first one. Yeah, I'm good. No, it's just there's I don't know. It just kind of lost its team for me avenge some stuff. I don't need This continues I got a little burnt out on the superheroes 23 movies like so if when the first Iron Man came out, it was like so everybody you're going to see that just so you know, there's me twenty two more times. You have to see after this. I think some people would have been like them from that. I'm just you know, I'm just not think so. I think people just be like no I just won't see those then and then I'll see some of the ones that I feel like my wife still hasn't seen dr. Strange because she's like, yeah, she's like I get it. She saw him that I would go back and like why watch all of them twice like and after having already seen them when they come out like marathoning them which by the way, I just don't recommend because eventually by the end of it. You're like, I'm going crazy. Yeah that I don't watch Doctor Strange. They're like what? We're in Ragnarok in The Avengers movies and he is in his own movie. I agree with thank you like you have the character figured out and by the way, his American accent drives me so crazy. I don't know why he's not breaking half of the bridge. There's no reason for him to be an American. It's name is Doctor Strange. You'll just change the British dialect you just do you say let's give dr. Strange a hand. It was informed because he has you didn't even say that it was a very subtle punch. No one God and it went over great. So we went over like a Led Zeppelin was a little shaky that led me. You're welcome to get back into Legion soundtracks. One of the first season did they? Yes, they have a lot of different sampling is very expensive. That's why you heard Immigrant Song twice in Thor Ragnarok because they had to spend so much. It's like what were you playing it twice? Jeff only concerns movie and movies. There's a lot that you can skip like you can get Thor one, although are you talking skips or one? Yes, no, no. No. No, I understand. Thor to we're talking like we're lowering our standards Ian drums start to that's unfortunate but there's some better origin are there some worse origin stories. I feel like for Doctor Strange he's a dynamic character. There's visuals you got to see for that movie. I would not recommend skipping that especially after seeing Avengers you get to see some of his powers but like the whole thing, dr. Strange is definitely not one. I would I would Skip over Doctor Strange is on Netflix do so. It's like just watch it's like now have it on the background right where you can watch it now just watch it. It's easy easy peasy have a lot. That's not like I don't want to say anything. So I wanna spoil anything for you. There is just not going to see it though. So it's not true what you've learned something in every conduct the in doctor strange that you're like, why don't you apply this later on this is infuriating and I think we all know what I'm talking about elections. Arms, this is big enough that people who understand will go. Yeah, but like it's like these are just nouns and game. I still have I just have to watch. Yeah, that's right. I'm sorry. That is the end game is the sorry. I caught up to Infinity War. I still have to watch and game right? Well, you'll have to take that fork to see the whole movie. It's not short. It is quite a long film. But anyway, I'm travel and also music there's so much. More to talk about in terms of the Legion series finale but first xia Bastille Dale Anderson has this important message I do. Hey guys, I don't like the way you're staring at me. 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I got really I mean, that's why I married him. Let's be honest. So that's probably why he wears headphones a lot just because he's like, he's just nodding along and I'm just like and and that ending like oh, God and he's like, yeah totally so we're there specific things Z about the legion series finale that just flat out like no that did not work for me or was it just more of a general? Like now I am I like people in the comments for the final episode of the after-show thought that us saying we've collectively said we all wanted more we all want to know wanting something more is not an opinion. I'm like, well, it's the opinion we have idiot. Give us your comment, but don't let them be stupid if they're stupid or stupid. I don't want to 5 star rating. The first 30 seconds is like oh they just want more. I just I think that the show has attracted a certain kind of, you know, obvious audience and it and they all read very deep like in between the lines, you know, the viewership here is just it's it's you're either cerebral and can understand this kind of thing or you're like, what did I just watch and if you're like, what did I just watch you have long the Train by now. I'm expecting X-Men like 90s cartoon. Or the 70s comic book like I'm wearing. Yeah, you're not going to get that and that's that was another comment. It's like well just because it wasn't just like the comic books doesn't mean it wasn't good. No it doesn't it. Just also wasn't what we wanted. I think even if it ended in the same way, but after a big fight I wouldn't be like perfect. I think X-Men you think battles. We just didn't really ever get a battle. I wanted 12 episodes. I wanted a dozen episodes. I wanted like if we're gonna have like I you guys Did the tangent with Buddy for more episodes I would have been okay with exactly. Yeah, see, I agree with you guys so much. We talking we were talking about this last time if you think we're right then continue, but I was like I need more anymore. I needed a battle like we were talking about this on the last episode. We are watching it. I got a song. I got some hugs at the end. I got so much crap that I didn't want that loves to show that there was Is that wanted to action? I wanted to see David go full-on villain because that's how they let him up to be. Don't give me this crap at the end Switcheroo hug from my dad. I'm a nice guy now and then Switcheroo my old self. Tell me to be nice. So guess what? I would be nice. No don't don't sell me on how is this appointed before we continue one of the ways we keep all these shows for you free is by our amazing sponsors. And today Spotify is one of our sponsors on Spotify. 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Yeah two credits and then it's like oh, hey battles on except for nah, man, let's not let's we got G and beer and just chitchat and Charlie are just gonna basically tailgate. Just let you know like there was no like oh was there any sort of anxiety? Like will there be a battle later on? Is there any tension and he's like now we're all cool. Good man. I'm sorry. Yeah, I was going to say the show does such a great job through the last three seasons of balancing the action and the violence with the cerebral part of the show. And I think that they just didn't quite do that in this last episode. I actually don't hate what they did with Farooq. I don't it was it's not what I saw coming it was it was very that was a departure from the cotton on with the comic book character but in the cartoon as well, like that's just not at all what I was expecting. So I did not hate that I disagree with you guys. I think they could have done something more with it. They could have made even if it was more of a visual battle as opposed as opposed to it being like like very violent you could have done something with that like there was that point and it was this I think it was season one or season 2 where they had that fight was all the colors and it was yeah. It was very comic that was so cool. They could have Something along those lines, but it was just kind of I would have been here for it. Yeah whirring say Alexa. I also really wanted more of an altercation or something between Charles Xavier and David. I wanted that to come to health like I wanted the dad think Dad, uh my own mulling about his dad the whole show and how his dad left him and then what he just gets a hug from his dad and everything's okay, and he's a good person now and it's fine. I I just wanted something there. I think I wanted what I wanted to happen. Was David and Xavier go in to try to fight farooq's plural and then maybe Xavier turns on David which causes David to just have this like Legion meltdown where he destroyed we finally see like the extent of his power because but I don't think we ever really saw him like hit his yeah. Whoa, like, oh my God. This guy is a throw. Yeah, he's almost as powerful as Iceman believe it or not. Hyped up like it was gonna be this big thing. It was just so cuddly like it seemed like they were like get ready for like epic myth battle like psych. We actually took Molly we're just gonna wait for episode 8 before the first day of shooting the studio came over like so listen you guys burn through the whole budget for the season. So yeah, we don't we can't do any effects Aubrey Plaza's out she's doing Suleiman Gordon sound been in the end of next remember that she was here and it was like a clip of her from Parks and Rec. Yeah, it wasn't even from the show like asking Andy for help and they were like Starlet but it was basically I think if we'd had a moment where like everybody's like oh Farouk, you're a good guy now. All right everybody and if we'd seen like I don't know like the angry boy behind him sort of like lurking in the shadows or maybe like one of those very knowing like evil eyes or something where it's like, oh, yeah. No, he's He's just messing with them because that's that's what I was expecting all episode. And then we didn't get it. I'm like, oh so the Shadow King is just a big cuddly panda bear now, so I read some comments of some viewers of our episode and and then goodbye clearly these ones had your name and I know most people think I've rocked. Okay. No, but Farooq, they said something about how he said something about like I want will you? Back to me when we won't destroy the world together or something like that. What do they say take control? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Well, that's a very valid Vilnius thing to say, so I don't think he's you know turned a new Leaf. I think he still Farooq. He's just letting David go so that he can eventually come back to him. You know what I mean? Like, yeah seems like a lot of it was just they could be like look at our cool visual of like these sunglasses but like with a projector and have you like what a creative thing that we did mean it was pretty cool. It was really cool. And I was like, okay, I do really like Like this, but also my problem was timeline-wise. It doesn't make sense. It's like the same thing with like Harry Potter where you're like, okay, so wait a minute. So Dumbledore was just like nice wear a suit and for like years and years and out of nowhere was like I'm old now, I'm crazy. I was like, wait a minute. He's like 2,000 years old and he's like I've known this kid for 20 years and you know what the 20 years has changed. Yeah, but on these Sonny's and now like projector happen. So let's go get some ice cream. Like it was like why thinking of time in Harry Potter they you know have the time Turner thing and then they just don't touch it for the rest of the books. Well, it's because they can only be hard thing to put in movies and television unless it's there on page one to start with that's when you add time and later it gets confusing. Yeah, and then you get like those weird little where I the plot hole for me in this episode was so if the Farooq never spent that time I'm with David if he leaves him alone, then you don't have older fruit to come back and say it to nicer farook and let me know and not die because it's still it's not like I'm game because it did rewrite his it's not it's not really ours. No, but it did rewrite his whole his going back change the entire Street. Sure. It didn't just create a new timeline. It was like, oh the they actually sit and David disappeared it rewrote their whole life. It seems they are random which by the way sit and David disappearing half of that. I was very excited about what were you going to say Jeff? No, I got no, but visually one of the most disappointing things for me was Farooq literally said to Professor X. He's like you're in a whole room. You can decide what you want it to look like. This is your whole place. And he just gives them a beer or something. He like makes fun of Xavier Xavier about it and then does nothing with the room. It's just like a waste of a scene in my like I get I get the dialogue part. I can identify rib the most like like why can do anything once however here but it was just it was frustrating because first off we get no fight we get a song and don't I and I'm like music but don't give me a song. I don't want it. I want to see him fight. Please an important question Jeff. What's your favorite musical? This is really nice. You want to know why because they fight as you're the one that I want fax fax angry sliding. Hey, yeah, but oh no, I was in 8th. I was in Greece lining eighth grade. Shut up, you know, that's my favorite to yourself is my intro to musicals and we're in eighth grade musical stand on top of a car. I greased lightning that stuff. Yes Lee just saying so what do they rewrite the script? And it's like Rizzo has a tummy ache. Anyway, it was more fun to the grease that there wasn't this last episode. Wow, see that it's a know the grace referred to the chicken that I made her feel uncomfortable. She wasn't pregnant. No baby. I'm so glad we're saying the whole time travel thing to me. I thought was the best part of the episode because I thought that that Which is storyline was what made the most sense and what was the most complete? Well such as show a line was almost the most fascinating I say, yes, I'm great with school II felt so bad for switch because as we saw in the second-to-last episode David just didn't give a shit about her right now. It was just like completely Professor X asked who is that? He says, it doesn't matter just a time traveler and he's like David everybody matters. I'm your dad like not that wow about him though. I mean come on Ed phones all the time my favorite part of the show in particular the way they time traveled I bet that image the hallway that the hallway switch losing her teeth, but these like and then cutting the little the like horror. Yeah the end and jumping through it you think about how much time travel we've seen nobody's done that before where they're cutting them little oh, you know, I'm demons are so crazy. Scary. Awesome, right? Yeah, so you want a hug onesie? It seems like you love. Yes. I want to hold trained one. I will be spaced it. I want like an opposite angle and that's like here's more years back. Like I'm not going to make you like gum decrepid carry, like look how good you look you want a Time demon that can go right behind Jeff and put them right back in greased lightning in it re exactly like shout out to younger be you're good. - I mean this and not just because the show's over and I love the panel and everything, but I do love the show just even know xia Dynasty not was talking about the legion panel. Yeah, not bad. I was going to say the visual thought Christian for calling attention to that the visuals will stick with me. Yeah for know, I think when I think about the show, there's there's so many things and and some of it that just so weird, you know, the fact that I know people have Told us that like, oh this is the time period that it was in I don't know. I never really got a handle when this happened, you know, because it's sort of look like the 70s and then when we saw newer technology, they're like, yeah, but that's not part of the linear story. And then that's a perfect example of how the people who were in the chat for the after show clearly watched the show more closely than I did. They're clearly smarter than I was they understood things better than I did and that's why I loved interacting with them, even when they said that we were idiots and didn't have an opinion, but I always She added that yeah. Yeah sweet kind of stuff. Yeah. I thought I thought of something though since we were talking about the show for the finale when we're talking about the robots and everything kind of talking about the visual to was they also showed when she thought of herself as a robot with a wind rushing like a clock. Yeah. So then it was kind of an allusion to her representing time itself. That's a great one. Thank with like a huge. Visual clue that I didn't even think about until I went back and re-watch it and I was like, oh they literally are like, look, she's time. Then this is a show that if we had the time to watch it again, we would probably be so much. Yeah, we would be yes. Hey switch. Can you just give me the Tai Chi just sit in the hallway long enough to watch. What is it? 27 episodes It's All I need I just need a little pockets eventually be in the hallway. That's fine. Just show this series, but I think there's some of those visuals and then now knowing How It Ends I think that you'll see a lot of things like huh, I guess they know where they're going because that's what they say the the people at FX they're like, yeah the way that it ended is when he pitched the first episode this is how we told us this is what they're saying now what I said on the legion after show I did not think that that was where they were going and I think that I think that when they started season 3, they're like this is how it ends but I don't think season one there like whatever we do no one can fight in seriously, yeah, so no visual Facts only way I believe that is it they didn't know they only had eight episodes in the last season because there was no lead up to them both switching Gabby maybe one but then both switching to good-bye Farouk and David there was no lead up. So there's no way they had that plan is like, you know, what we're going to lead up to some bad bad bad and is Switched last episode. I'm the atom believe it. We're all good guys now and here are some fortune cookie phrases for you to to remember be a good person. Is he I think like 10 minutes. It's ago. I asked you a question and then I didn't let you answer. Was there anything in the show in particular that you were like, this is the thing that really didn't work for me. We've talked about a few things that we didn't like but is there something that really just stands out? I think it was mostly just what we were talking about that and I and she brought up to that switch. The switch storyline was almost the most fascinating. Yeah, and that's not really what you're hoping for because you were just introduced to her in this last season and you've had David and said and all these other characters for three seasons and so I was hoping for a little bit. Of that. I have it down here to that. It feels like it was building slowly. Like the episode was a slow build and then to nothing. Yeah, you're like hey, oh, oh, okay supposed to stick a landing right stick. Right and I didn't and I didn't hate it. It just wasn't it just wasn't it wasn't like everything that I want. Yeah, and we didn't we didn't all march in here right afterwards. Like I can't believe what I just saw well know we sort of did say that like, I can't believe what we just saw because it was Missing some of the things that we wanted one of the things that we talked about on the after-show that I like to get your feedback on Zia was the amazing stage makeup that they used on Old carry to show that she had aged how impressive did you find that well she had wrinkles on her arms. Did you notice she did? Yes, and I've seen her in person many times. She's not still never gotten her on the show. Thanks. Okay. I actually don't you know you did. She just doesn't want to be here. Yeah, just like can't blame her. Yeah, it's you're just like, oh, okay, you're wearing makeup, aren't you? What do you like your very own makeup aren't apparent what I did like though that they did with David is because I've never actually seen David as the bad guy at all throughout any of the seasons, especially this one. I've seen him as someone that is in desperate need of love and care and acceptance and wanting and and not that everything that he did was good. But I he did bad things but I don't think it made him a bad person. So I think the way that they tied that up worked really well with him as being finally like what Xavier said to him is what he had been looking for the entire time. He just he was he became a little boy again. That's what he wanted and it's shows with his little his little Harem of girls who call him daddy, which was super weird. Yeah. It's again. All he was looking for was love and acceptance. It was actually really really sad. So seeing him get that from his dad I think was actually nice and I think that tied up things with David. Well, it was more the David farook Xavier for looked at that whole that whole dynamic. I didn't think they handled. Well, if you're going to have a pair of people come together, you got to have the other parrot drift apart and both of them coming together was a laughs. Yeah. Big bad and they're both flipping in one episode with no lead up to it. It doesn't make sense. It doesn't it doesn't fulfill as a viewer like all right. Well, they just want a happy ending. Yeah, I think logically young Farooq just being like OK you guys are all crazy. I have to get out of here. He's young Farooq. So it would it would one make sense. Right and everybody else took it a felt the same way. But yeah, it's like, oh, let's get him on board to you know, I agree. I think that well it was a little bit Is a little bit disappointing in that way but like we were saying and we said last week it wasn't a bad series finale there was just like it's one big fight would have negative Health an elongation will really like throws the straight jacket off and it's like really like that and that's farook and it looks like oh man. Okay now it's going to start and it's like they hype it up like it's going to be Disneyland fireworks, then it's like you get crazy bills discount pack and you're like, oh, I guess it's done now cool. There's a one news item that ties into Legion before we kind of take a couple minutes and look back on the series at a whole jeph Loeb who as most people know is the head of Marvel TV. He said that he's very hopeful that at some point four years down the line. No, Holly. I'll find a new story worth telling of Legion because if you know his show Fargo, they'll be a few years between seasons and this ended in a seemingly a way that has finality, but you could definitely tell more seasons, right? I personally don't imagine Noah Hawley telling more seasons of Legion, but they could certainly bring the show back and you know have it started a different point. I mean, I don't even to be a baby again, you know, let's let's have him be an adult but I really don't want to just see a child growing up for like I'm having in real time gonna be used Jack. Yeah two years for he can we go. No, I mean if it's gonna be a baby using his powers to like, you know, I don't know if you convince people Like I want to have I want to have candy for breakfast and then there you go. So that could be where we could entertain what it but it's just not healthy baby. But personally, I think that you know, look, it's just one of those things that they say and they were like, yeah, we don't want to close the door. But because this came up this week, I thought it was worth talking about, you know, they have like a good collaboration with FX is really what the jeph Loeb also said so they could see I think that just means like you'll see this character again, but does anybody here think that there will be another season or even like a new iteration of the series Enemy talking like years from now you'd like to happen. Yes. I would like Harry Lloyd. Yes as as Charles Xavier because I liked him. I know you really like me. I liked it. I liked Like Me Oh, I thought somebody was liking about him nor liked him. I really liked the part. You know if you're going I'm thinking maybe either a movie or a TV show following Xavier deciding to start Xavier's School for gifted youngsters, like the original X-Men, you know get Jean Grey and their reboot her one more time. Please give her a good story man. I got to write every time that's Cyclops. I mean the originals, you know, yeah, and I Well, and of course make a level mutant Iceman needs to be on that show. But also I've always said that we they have never done angel in a way that I feel like they've done a good job. So I would love to see that so starts having him start out the school and then even bringing David back. Yes villain again and I think introducing David down the road and I think we'll see him in a movie at some point, but I think it might be for a little while, but I'm we were trading emails earlier today sort of about this. And I would imagine that we wouldn't see danwstephens play David again. But if we do, that's great. So there's sort of a two-part question the first will sort of go around and see what everybody thinks if he played someone else in the MCU and that, you know, basically accomplices everything now because they have the X-Men characters. Is there someone that comes to mind that you think you'd like to see him play I said this on Marvel movie news. I'd like to see him as Reed Richards mr. Fantastic. I think you know because at one point Believe It or Not Reed Richards was young. He didn't always have the white streaks on the side. So I'd like to have I'd like to start out like it's not having be old right away. It's like a Spider-Man seems to always graduate from high school and his second movie. But is there anything that comes to mind for for you Alexa? I'll ask you first. Yeah, I think he would be a great night crawler actually. Oh my God, he would you be a great night crawler, but if not Nightcrawler kind of has an edge to him. So I also could see him as Gambit. I was just going to ask you about damn it. Look at that. Yeah, I think I think that would work look as great as Channing Tatum Gambit would have been no no. No. What is amazing is Taylor Kitsch was as Gambit and X-Men Origins Wolverine, I think but we already know that he can do magic as Mike's. Oh, come on. Yeah, but I think I think it would be great to see a you know, you have to you don't just have a Look for Gambit. There's like a very specific kind of presence that you need to have Jeff. Is there something that comes to mind for you for danwstephens for him? I have to say dr. Strange. I feel like he's still in that so you're kicking banging Cumberbatch out of the role know if we had to reboot. Yeah, because I like that some point. Yeah. Some point doctor is some point Benedict cumberbatch's gonna ask for too much money, you know, there's yeah, but if we were rebooting if I was just casting them, I would go Doctor Strange. I feel like it's still he still plays the not creepy but like serious role kind of well, are you still dealing with magic and I like how he's doing that in this in this series. So I think I'd play very well. We his to his rolling out. Dan Stevens is also British. His American accent is way better than Benedict cumberbatch's would you have him be doctor strange British accent American accent? Hi just a mere him American for combat. Yeah, if in the next movie Benedict Cumberbatch just has his British accent. I think we'll all be fine. It's like how strong it's like. I'm Scarlet Scarlet Witch lost her terrible accident and that was back. Well, yeah, but - laughing - she doesn't have it. But I like that Scarlett Johansson when they were just like re Russian just like I used to be explained away accent one line done. What would you like to see? Who would you like to see Dan Stevens? There is someone that we were talking about Marvel movie news and I can't remember now, but I was like, oh I want to see him as this person so badly and I cannot remember so I'm going to say angel because we've never really gotten a very good imitation of him a great Angel Angelina. Do you have any thoughts on who'd like to see him play? Honestly. I just want to see Aubrey Plaza play danger. Wow. I want to see like freaking danger the like one we don't have like any annotations and we haven't really seen a I done really well and I feel like Aubrey Plaza would do a really great job doing During the adaptation of like Danger Room becoming a physical Incarnation and I feel like if they played with that storyline, I mean, that's not what you asked but no answer answer and yeah, and if we died before I thought you would yeah, I'm in the finale. I thought we would get you know, like down somewhere in the water. David's mind. She's like, oh, hey I'm dead now, but you know, but like Now because you're down that sounds like her yeah, it just dances away. Yeah, and we'd like to see it looks like a PLO has Rogue. But anyway God I have a great tweet that out. We know that works. Yes. That's right. Yeah many a thing. Morales I'm not gonna say any names but like plague in Greece in eighth grade. This is my solo song one of the t-ball and it was because your boys not a bad singer, but I was still mainecare. Yeah, so we still out here. Yeah. It's it personal resentment why you don't like the music and Legion is it just because you're my guy had my song in eighth grade. In doing so you know, what if you Legion I hate your rap battles get out of here Alan nothing. We are almost out of time, but I wanted to know from everybody here on this All-Star panel that we have assembled here today. What is if is if there's one defining scene or moment or it can just be a general feeling when you think back on Legion Alexei already said the visuals and I agree with that but is there one thing it could? Be from this season could be from any point in the series that when you think about the show, you're like, oh this one thing I couldn't believe that I saw I'll ask you first Elena. Honestly the pilot I thought was one of the best Pilots I've ever seen on television period and just the Montage the opening up of David growing older then they kind of harken back and book end with the finale event is like that. Yeah, I like that with the same song and everything but the visuals of that and just kind of kicking it off where it's Like the show is going to circumvent every Trope and every expectation that you have for what a superhero show should be from within the first two minutes without any dialogue. You can tell this is going to be something entirely different. I thought was just the best ways to kick off any show did do that even though even though didn't stick The Landing it's still was exactly what you talked about. It wasn't like any any superhero show that we've ever seen. But it's like that gift like the gymnast Who falls on her face then points that toe quite obviously when you think of Legion you're going to be so glad that you did the legion after show because you never would have met me but your second thought about the show. That's number one. But for you, what was the second thought be when you think of the series I make cheap jokes to I mean obviously, yeah the huh, it was a honestly it was that episode where Brooke and David have that battle and it shows up in those amazing colors just visually it was so stunning that episode for me. I was like, oh my God, I mean I love the show right from beginning of it. It was so it's so different it's not you because I understand Alexa you can get superhero fatigue a little bit. I love I love all the movies. I've seen them all. Yeah speaking of which Mike thank you. This is awesome. Anyway, you know, like there's five of us here. That's all I'm going to say. But yeah, but yeah you do you can get kind of superhero fatigue. But with this show at something completely different it doesn't feel like every and I mean honestly Marvel has made some some really bad TV, and this is was very nice and very refreshing to watch something. That was very cerebral. Thing that kind of got you thinking something where you're like, this is so weird. I love it. So Isaiah Alexa, so we talked about the visuals. But is there any other final thought and I think the mental illness that they delve right into and they were not afraid to talk about it. And that was awesome. I wanted them to go further with that. I expected to see a little more with it in the series finale. I know that Gabriella dressed it so it wasn't completely dismissed but I agree. I thought the yeah, they really dealt with With it and I was thought it was an interesting the idea. That's like, oh you're in this institution you're on medication and that's why your powers aren't manifesting themself, but you are also crazy. Yep, you know, and I thought that and I thought it was an interesting way to tell the story and finally Jeff. So mine would be just Aubrey Plaza as a whole her whole story arc going from are just just arranged because like you see her in a mental institute and you see her kind of running the running the show and David's dad. The cave or whatever you want because she was the mommy. Yeah. She's a mommy in there and then you even get to see her like be a mom. Yeah and have a relationship so you can see all her right. I just love I loved her throughout the show like she that was my favorite part it lit up when I was seeing her but just like probably I don't know which episode it was but it was in this third season when we saw switch and her interact, I love both of those characters. So that would probably my highlight because it was visually cool and the characters were very Intriguing and interesting and something to something to look forward to it was cool that she was I mean, she's playing a dude. I mean she yeah, I mean she was female obviously but the character was originally written to be a guy and she was like, we should all get chicken and waffles and Tribute to The Breakfast Queen. She was a breakfast Queen We're Not Gonna, you know make this a feminine thing. We're going to keep on going with the way it's written and we're going to make it its own thing, which is cool for me. I will always think back on the episode last season where it was the episode with all David's but there was also the singing Mouse and I was just like that is so weird that has no place in this episode, but it's so great our friend Amy love that. Yeah. But anyway, we are out of time. I felt like we got to like half of what I wanted to talk about, but we had so much fun doing it and thank you to everyone who was in the chat and thank you to the legion panel for getting back together. It had been six all days. We really missed each other, but let's go around and everybody say where you can be found online. David's Angels. Yeah, first at David's angels and I was good. You can find me at Jeff will underscore Junior on all your social media platforms and happycabbie where two people find you you can find me Alexa Kathy yellow at aleksic a PCA ppy on Instagram and Elena were two people find him. You can find me on Twitter at Elena Jordan and on Instagram at Elena j-jordan xia and you can find me on Twitter and Instagram @ Z underscore land. That's Xiao underscore land. Find me on Twitter on Instagram act Christian DMZ, and you can find Zia and myself Thursday's over on the popcorn Talk network at one specific for Marvel movie news, and we will be back here next Sunday night because we'll be wrapping up all of the news out of d23, which I can't even guess what it is, but Lena has been kind enough to I say she'll be here next week. So we break it all down and we will see you all down. Thanks so much everybody until next week Excelsior. I found her Keven undergaro and me Maria Menounos would like to thank you for tuning in to AfterBuzz TV. Remember, we're not just the first were the biggest in the world and would all of us relation for all your favorite TV shows whatever you crave. We've got it. 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The Legion after-show panel reunites with Christian Bladt, Alana Jordan, Alexa Cappielo, Jeff Williams Jr joining Xia Anderson to react to the series finale of Legion and look back on what the show meant to them. They also look ahead towards a possible future for the character in the MCU. Hosts Christian Bladt @ChristianDMZ Xia Anderson @Xia_Land Legion Season 3 Episode 2 Agents of SHIELD Season 6 Episode 8     If you’re a fan of Marvel, you have come to the perfect place. On our MARVEL TV WEEKLY series we discuss everything from your favorite shows such as The Gifted, Daredevil, Agents of SHIELD, Jessica Jones and more. Tune in to get the latest news, developments, premiere dates, major plotlines and theories as well as the insider scoop from cast and crew. A weekly series that keeps you up to date on everything in the Marvel TV universe. The series will cover storylines, news and announcements relating to Agents of SHIELD, The Gifted, Legion, Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Defenders and others. Throughout the series we'll bring in guests to join in on the fun! ---   This episode is sponsored by  · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. 