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Once again for joining us on another after-show of the Inch and this is a really really good at really good a pisode. I'm your host many atoms Pam unfortunately is not here with us, but these guys are here to tie it down here. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Sorry. I think you're good enough, right, but we do miss you path. He did we do before we get into what I want to introduce you guys to my amazing co-host. What's up, Dan here. Got a dance Pierce for you guys stick around. That's always mr. David Walker. Server, what's going on guys? Yeah, we have so much to talk to you guys about including we're going to be doing something a little different. We are going to be opening up the lines. What are you guys? Yeah crazy, right. So if you guys have questions comments, all you have to do is call in that number is 4 2 4 3 5 4 8 3 0 2 I'll remind you guys again before we get to that segment. But yeah, give us a call and I'll let us know what you have to say about this episode. Things do get cray with this. Yeah. We're so excited for this. Yes, very excited. But first I want to first see what you guys thought about this episode almost the perfect episode for me until the last two minutes. I thought it was great all the way around even the twist the part that you were in so fond of Dan. I thought it was great. Actually. I like the twist. I just wanted west of that window. All right, right. Yeah. This was this was my favorite episode so far. I I was rooting for bear like no other like we were in there just like I was yelling at the TV right really it was it was awesome, you know, and it's I'm not a bear fan, you know, but I will admit I was really rooting for Bear, you know, don't really like Wes because we like The Underdogs, right? Yeah, aren't you? Yes and most circumstances. I would have been rooting for me just because of the way that everyone just was like, yeah. Yes. I'll put my head up for you to you know, he was kind of true but then when it turned on West which I called before it happened dead because you didn't say I was like you guys um You realize Josh can send a neither team. So if someone pisses him off on his own team, why can't he gets in and I also wanted West sent in because or west to win because I wanted to see if he would switch to the Brit side and we'll never know if you would have we never eat. That's true because we thought he was switch. Thanks. So I was excited to see him switch. I thought he would have maybe had some better luck with Josh Joss and Rogan. All right. So let's start off with the team meeting that the the US had where they decided to let Let Josh be the the person who picks who goes in. Yeah, it was interesting. It was almost like they wanted a scapegoat to have to pick one of their bigger players know we know Josh is like they're in theory their weakest guy on the US team. They're like, well if we make him the guy that says he'll do it the tribunal and he votes in their strongest player the strong wheel were all off the hook. We like the OE like one of their strongest players, etc. Etc. Yeah. He's like a Hired Gun almost in that sense. You know, I mean, he's doing the Dirty Work. Yeah. It doesn't affect them. If you know comes back to I thought that was a stupid move on their part though, because that guy who that whoever's in that position gets the power. So why would you just want to hand the power over that easily? I mean, I don't think that they thought that Josh was going to make that huge ride to put Wes and I thought that they were they you know, here's the thing bana says it at the end. It's what I was saying the for the first two episodes these guys bananas and West they don't ever want to be on a team together and that's that's what basis with bananas taste like None of us are really on a team together. We're just in the same colored outfit, right? That's right happening. And that's true you for one second think that what by having this meeting we're all going to be like, oh we all voted for deals with definitely Joshi. Kousei Theo now, you're all full of it. Yes, and I love that. He did that too. I mean, he literally just called it like it is and you see everybody was kind of like, yeah the guys right? You're right. It's like so that was much needed to be said and yes, all I did was I agree with you I think was just a scapegoat have just even right so they wanted to What they did in the previous challenge vote and the strongest player. And so I think it was it was between Theo and egeus that they voted and do you think that's a smart move to just continue to vote in the strongest player. I honestly think it is because I think the backlash from doing that it's hard for Alton Theory lineup because even if your team wants you to be like hey, you know, they voted me in so you should vote them and now because we're on the same team as we see from tonight. No one really gives an F there just like I'm gonna do what I want to do. So even if Josh votes in Theo, yeah, it's still really like. Oh next time. I'm going to tribunal I'm going after Josh. I don't think it's all going to line up that perfectly to do that. I really don't ya so I that's why I went Josh look, I don't want to do that at first. I'm like Josh who cares though Thea really? Is he gonna come after you or see you in theory going to try to get on a bigger player? Like the US has been trying to do for the UK, right? So that's where I was like Josh it's not a big deal, but then West pissed you off enough. So I say I love that Josh did that right happens? Super exciting. I know it had to be against my boy West but Josh had every right to do it because West was really literally he left the room and Wesley. I'm gonna he's yeah, he's - he's my next one out anyway, so go for Josh and I like I'm I'm not a hater on Joshua. A lot of people are I actually don't mind then whining it's him who cares? He's emotional. Everyone is emotional on this show this episode. I have to say I I'm actually a fan of Josh now because he stood up for himself. He did what he thought was right. He didn't follow the crowd. And been Polly was all mad like oh you made our team worse, but Josh is you know, they have them the way I looked at it is they have so many strong people in that us team. If you can't win just because you're - Wes who by the way and that elimination looked like he was dogging it. He got smoke he didn't he like, yeah. I know you said you got spanked here. I know he wasn't prepared and in that confessional right before he went on he's like I was I thought I was just gonna watch when I said go west you got to get that out of your head, right you're going in there. You have to have a different state of mind. He could not bring cock. Quick enough. He said he crappy quick enough, right and he wasn't a loose loose when he said it. He's like if I win I should have won and If I Lose I'm going to get made fun of forever. It's true. Just so tricky to sucks to be Western. Yeah. Well, it's let's go on to the challenge which it was called. The paddle will puzzle boys, like literally watching it. I was I was getting dizzy. You saw people like throwing up. So what they have to do is they have to get 16 puzzle pieces. They had to memorize these these codes. And then get the little sticks that formed into their flag. Yeah, so us did terrible and one thing I noticed was UK was dogging them like no other like what did you guys think about that challenge? Well the challenge I thought was actually really good. It was really fun. It had you I mean, obviously they're doing these challenges based on you have to have good communication because they know both these teams don't and who really would with like 16 people on each team. Yeah. How are you ever going to communicate properly? I think they're with a million different personalities. But as always your thing on you used to do talks. I got to think about it. No. No, I agree and I to your point and I think it would so many different egos. It's I think that's the whole point to see if they can actually pull it together. You know, I mean then with all the obstacles combined with that, I mean, I think it's it was entertaining silly, right and someone did bring up a good point. They started working together. Well when they said what happened it was they all yelled out one person yelled out a number and then they all put in that code and if they started out was that smart move and and that was going to say about the UK is instead of the UK talking and making fun of them. They should have been on the sidelines strategizing. This is what not to do and say they were spending their time making fun of the US and UK. You haven't even won one of these challenges. So why don't you guys think about like to put get in a little huddle here get in a huddle and think about what you're supposed to do don't mess is they had the advantage because that they went last and that's my conspiracy for the night is that The interior is it Americans you're going for a they put them first on purpose the British like we kind of give the Brits a chance to win ugly and try to make this an even seasoned. So that's the conspiracy that has they did it on purpose to give the bridge of chance and the Brits weren't even really taking that much of Advantage. At least they didn't show that on TV. They really didn't because usually in challenge history whoever wins can pick if they want to go first or last. Yeah and this case they TJ was like Americans you're going first right through the first challenge as well though. That wasn't at the same time right the last Two challenges do they go with the same time or know? What was last week's they I think they did the first week. They were just like flying at each other. So they were a same time. I don't know. I don't know what last names remember. Wow, the swimming with Wes this well. Yeah, so they did go separately but none of them were the same time were they they were just like next to each other. Yeah. I know. They're the same time. So whatever. Yeah. Yeah, so we find out that the UK team wins, but We also find out that Theo cheated would you guys think about that whole situation feel overall had a very rough night. He didn't come off. Well at a rap episode gather up. I mean, first of all, he didn't accidentally break it that's that was my biggest takeaway. He literally said he literally said that catches like I'm ripping. Well firstly you see him rip it off and then the confessional whatever you hear his voice over like I see a lock and I just I just whipped it I just I just broke it so he teach You that it was definitely a cheap to because that's ridiculously unfair, right? How do you like really? Like, how do you think that's going to play a realistically, you know mean like obviously you just you didn't follow the rules. You just ripped it. Yeah, like I mean, it's like they're watching you like your brother Court in like, of course the we're gonna catch them. There's a million cameras running to the fuck he ripped. They only showed him rip one, but then TJ was holding up to right right. He did a second time and dirty confessionals. They were saying, oh we got caught ripping the the law. Like who are also and I feel like multiple people knew I wouldn't I want to know if someone else ripped the other locked because if it was all feel and Theory both no one seemed to get up on Theo's back about that. Yeah. I know one person. I'm dating show one person call him out because they are only for it. Yeah, they knew I mean there's a couple of in the confessional is it were like, oh we got caught ya think. It's Percy for you. I think that the Brits would have won if they just undid the laws. I had a long and Anaconda Americans they are killing it. So that's interesting, too. To think about and then he'll feel was yelling out it that was easy or what was he saying? It was easy. It was easy when they won, right? Yeah. It's easy to cheat the oh, yeah, no shit. It's not you read. It was easy. It's easy to rip off a lock when you like mussels and that's it as a bummer though because they legitimately could have had their first official like real win. And and of course the producers wanted the drama so they had TJ telling me one first. Oh, there we go. There we go. Not going to happen before we move on to our next topic. We have a special announcement that all until you guys afterbuzzers. Thank you so much for checking us out here tonight. We want to thank you for making us the ESP n of T v-- talk. If you want to leave us a comment. We'd love that. Give us a five star rating on iTunes. He'll hop on the YouTube subscribe to one of our many Channel subscribe to this channel right here. The challenge AfterBuzz means the world to us. So we love being here. We love working here AfterBuzz TV. So, please please please be nice. Ice and comment and have a great day back to the show. Thank you guys. We always appreciate you guys tuning in watching us. Does anyone say anything in the live chat. Someone said West was sick and maybe that's why he was not all there tonight. Someone said Wes was sick, but he we knew that he was others episode and I don't know how long it was until we have it was a week or if it was maybe a couple days when they filled between when they were filming. I don't know how you know, it's interesting though. So last season Johnny way got voted off very early this season. She's voted off in one episode 3. Yeah, I thought yesterday kind of feel like karma is because you know, they both want each other out so bad as I mean, it's just it's funny how that played out to and I mean Johnny just loved it. You know, you just like tonight was just like the greatest night ever right? Exactly. Exactly. Course it. Well. Yeah. All right. So let's go to deliberation. So Josh he is the speaker like everyone agreed on and he decides to pick Zach. And Laurel so they go in and team UK once bear bear is not happy about this whatsoever. And I feel like bear always gets the short end of the stick because like yeah, he does piss people off. But at least he's he's an honest guy. You know, he speaks was on his mind. Let me let me let me ask you this about the bear thing who's a weaker competitor on the UK side besides bear in theory before he just did that elimination against Wes Who's weaker than Bear? Yeah, who's like on the UK side who might be recurring headaches. That's what I mean. Still pretty set on hold on. I would say just because based on performance as you stated. What the heck is a rogue Brogan, I would say Rogan just because of what we've seen previously. Yeah, we haven't seen different feeling and like but like Rogan said they'll that was a year and a half very true, but we haven't seen nothing exactly and bear. He's proven himself, right? He's proven himself time and time again. Oh fair enough so say let's say it's down to Rogen and bear so Bears exactly right when he says well Rogen's doin D and Rogan's best friends with Joss. Well, that's true. Be honest, right? So Bears only alliances is Theo who just cheated in a game. So and bear is difficult to get along with a lot of the time so he in theory is the right person to easy person to scapegoat if you will and that's what we're going to use tonight for people to put to put in. Yeah, it is what it is, right? Yeah. I know it's the game. It's how the game works pair was going against anyone besides. Tonight IV run forward to because he was so he was actually entertaining tonight. Yeah, and that tribunal was finally entertaining with Tribune and the things he threw the things bear with say the bear literally broke it down on why he got voted in right and why every puto every single person's, you know situation who they're with whoever I point it was it was it was very fun. The guy is just good TV. Yes hands down. He wasn't I didn't like him in the first two episodes booty goes but tonight he was good TV. Yes watch. Begun, well speaking of bears. So his his friend Theo definitely had a night where he decided to get in a fight and it's crazy because we've never seen feel like this like last season. We really didn't see much of him until the final and that's what I would always say about few last season. They ever one ever was like in love with you and I love it. Yeah, we don't he doesn't do anything right Jose and now he does this. So all these people that love Theo I'm like, but look at the way that he's talking to people. Yeah, and then He's saying to them in person. Like I'm not like that. I don't think I'm better than you and they show them in the confessional like well what Rogan said is true. I do think that I'm right then better right like wait what's going on? So you just line these and and now let's be on Thea was drunk out of his mind. He couldn't put words together that yeah, so they were back waist. I don't like to blame stuff on The Alkali think that, you know drunken words are sober thoughts. That's as far as I'm concerned. So that's my personal opinion. So but yeah Theo not a good look tonight. I'm not not not a good look. Yeah, and I mean for me it like you said and we didn't see a whole lot of That side last season, you know, we didn't see much period other than just his performance which is great. Right? So, you know to see him in this aspect it's weird and it's kind of it's disappointing because it kind of changes an image that I think maybe you might have had previously right? But yeah, so I mean if he is that arrogant a whole tap it guy as I believe what it was D that said said that right? Yeah because you try to jump in and then he started yelling at Dee's something but it was so hard to keep everything together. That was when I started Using a little respect for the guys before it was like okay, he's drunk. He's getting an argument. We've never seen this before but side but of him before no big deal, but then when he starts going at it like Diaz like dude, that's a little too far and it's like in this was like the weird time for him to jump in and being this bad guy supposedly because like you just cheated in the challenge. You should be laying exactly exactly no one's called you out for breaking the law and he's associated with bear who isn't very popular. You gotta be like that other guy. You got to be opposite of bear. And now it's kind of seen it kind of seems like he's a little worse. And the other thing is those that feel is probably the strongest competitor on their team. I mean, he did perform great lecture and then also could be going to his head though how loud he had that season right now so that he's bringing that in with him to this season and I don't want to say it's backfiring because it's really not yet. I can't say that. It's backfiring. I just don't think it's a good look. I feel like with a lot of the the rookies from last season. Who are here this season and who made it far? They let it get to their head and they've gotten like really cocky. Well, I would say with the exception of Turbo draft still do yeah, I love turbo, right? Yeah. Yeah, right, but I agree with you. Yeah. Okay. So then we go to Josh and team u.s. They are Josh is starting to go back. Back on his word of putting in Theo and he wants to put in who does he want he wants to put in someone else. He was putting out names right exhaust. He said he was just saying other people Kylie's at Josh child, right? That's because he didn't want to say theö because he's worried that feels going to backlash exactly. I don't think it really will I will say this about Josh's move about putting West in I think it was anybody besides West if it was a bananas or if it was a someone else big on the team. I think west of the been like Josh. This is a badass move. I like It was just a put in Jordan right West would have loved West has in theory. He won't say it. Probably the camera. I think he's like, I don't want to have mad respect for you. But like that was a boss move that right. I would have made if people were against me right I agree. You know, I don't feel bad for Wes whatsoever because he put it on himself. He made that comment in front of Laura when he thought she was sleeping Laurel goes and tells Josh everything it fit him in the ass, right unfortunately, and you know what you got we got we Have to give props to Laurel because this is her plan is wasn't Josh's plan. Josh just did what he was told. Yeah, it was almost as if Josh was thinking it but too afraid to say it and then Laurels like hey, how about we do this in Josh the great. That's what do you want? That's great. I just was afraid to say it. Yeah, but yeah, it was definitely all right, I'll get into the other stuff later because we're not we're not there yet. So yeah so good for Laurel for being able to do that. I was I was very worried because so Laura was like we can't tell anyone. That's no one can know and usually all right. Reality TV when you say something like that, that means someone is going to say something. I was super worried. Did you guys think they're going to Spill the Beans? Yeah. I know you thought Josh is gonna spill. Yeah, right. No no Josh vo but then you and I when we saw Laurel go, we're like, oh right then but then I use it. Oh, she's saying it to bananas though, but it is what it is. Yeah. This isn't going to say anything bad ass is going to ruinous. I did think Josh is going to say something especially when you know, he was kind of getting grilled by the team members everybody's you know, trying to persuade him to stick to the and I thought you know, he's getting emotional and especially when you started telling Wes, you know, hey, I heard there's this is what was told Bob laughs. I thought he was going to kind of let it out there and just say it which was nice. Yeah, but I really thought he was going to as I come on dude, don't do it, right but you know you hung in there so and then a couple of other people they try to heal cancer Josh's head right about it. And so I thought that was gonna change his mind as well and they work they kept on saying, you know, he's he's playing with his feelings. He's playing with his emotions and I don't think that's a Bad thing that's just his game. Everyone has a different game for this challenge. Yeah. And so then like my whole thing was so bare. I think another thing I don't think they showed it. I bet Morel went and said something to Bear right you things because because here's the thing there came down there. So now it looks like Bears playing because bears like I want to go against us. I'm calling you out when in theory I bet bear already knew right? Right. So bear is just like our little told me so if I call them out now, I'm gonna look even more I like a badass. Yeah, right because that he's the only guy that's my mic my animals my rival. Thank you. That's where I'm looking for rival. So it all kind of because I mean that's just not that's a big coincidence, you know, because I would he said that all the stars are and they're not even know that Josh came up lower Josh, you know, it was kind of behind this but not real orals behind this but now Bears say so they're not even know about Laurel and Josh's plan, right? Yeah, and then I'm like wait Laurel probably told bear. I didn't show that so baby another disappearance. I got three of them tonight you producers didn't want to show us that did you producers but my whole thing is, how did it Wes see it coming because even Josh called him out and said I heard you say this and that of me blah blah blah instantly if I was West I would have been like, oh crap. He heard me say I want to get rid of them. I guess. He might want to get rid of me. Yeah. He's plotting to get rid. I mean, I think like, you know like we said, Earlier, I think he underestimated Josh and assume that you know, he's a veteran he's got the team behind him. He's not going to have the balls to make a move like that. I think he didn't really think he'd go that far. Yeah, I don't think I don't think he thought he was gonna do it because I thought I'd until now this is the first time that they've chosen their own player. Right? And I think that West was like I'm too big of a player they don't they're going to want to lose me literally just vote in the other team. Yeah. We're supposed to be on the same team here. So that's very true. All right before we get on to our next. Topic which is the challenge. I just want to remind you guys that the lines are going to be open. So if you want to call us you have a comment or a question about the show or just want to talk about anything. You can reach us at 4 2 4 3 5 4 8 3 0 2 again for 2 4 3 5 4 8 3 0 2. All right, let's get to the proving floor. Oh boy. That was intense like no. Oh other and West was so cocky. He was so cocky like he knew he was gonna when he thought he was gonna win, right? What did you do? What did you guys think? I didn't get that but what tell me that what he said what he said that made you to use. He just seemed like, you know, like I've done this before like I've been doing this and he just he didn't seem worried what so obviously haven't even the comment of you know, if I don't win, you know, I get nothing and if you know, or if I, you know, I don't win they're gonna make fun of me type of cut it was either is right it was either He he was too cocky about it or you just didn't care. Yeah, like I don't care if I lose or win I've done I've done these challenges regular. Okay, so I'm getting a different vibe from both of those. I'm getting he was so caught off guard. He wasn't cocky. He was like he was trying to come up with what to say or to do like he didn't he didn't think in a million years. He was going to even have to be down. It could have been like a little bit of both, you know, I mean, it could have been like like he's caught off guard. I think I'm just confused and just trying to catch like wait, I don't know how long it give them between in telling them the rules and growing if it's five minutes for that five minutes. I mean I did did he mean when he knows he's going into a challenge. He's probably stretching or if he has a chance to go into it challenge. Supposedly. He thinks he might he's stretching. He's getting his body be mentally financially and certain foods. Who knows and if it's true that Wes is sick. That's that sucks too. But I'll say this bear won fair and square bear came to play bear was beaten acrobatic like my to West did not do anything. They're Italian. Hey the whole time like West retaliate manners of Wes is known as a very aggressive dangerous competitor, you know tonight I didn't see Wes and see what I was like, is this a rookie who is this welfare just took the fight to my mean. He like plowed over him Alan. I'm like liturgy yanking the ball from like where did this guy come from? 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Let's let's be honest Wes isn't This young early twenty something year old guy who wore and I'm not saying like because he's like what he's I'm guessing he's in his mid-30s. Now, I'm not saying that when you get in your mid-thirties like you just lose it on but he's competing with someone who is a lot younger more energy, especially with bear. So yeah, I mean the chosen one here writes in the live chat that he thinks he underestimated bear absolute now. So there you go. I think a lot of people underestimate their which confuses me because he did he didn't win. Last season but he did amazing in those challenges last season. I mean I even underestimated bear I thought you know, I thought West was at least gonna take it to him in the very least. You know, I didn't think he would bear would do as well as he did and the way he performed I was I was impressed right and he definitely saw that bear had more heart. I was surprised that they were letting all that stuff fly with the punching and kicking TJ tried to go in there and stop it. But that's also where I say. We're like you think Wes would have triggered to get like Wes, you know, Kick back in and he was that's what I was waiting for. I said, no not my chair and I'm just like a calm Ali. When is it gonna turn turbo even comment? He's like, you know, someone goes like this. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but he didn't do nothing like well and that's why I was like was West really into it, right? Because remember last season during the reunions that he wanted to go home and I feel like I wonder if like these people who have been in the challenges for for so long do they just not care anymore if they get eliminated versus Someone who is brand-new to the challenge or is only been on it for two or three seasons. Yeah, I think it's a classic case of you know the wolf that's you know, hungry is to climb that mountain is not as hungry as one of the top. Yeah, I mean, so in Bear is this new fresh young competitor. He's hungry. You know, he wants his steak in all this Wes has been there done it right. He said he's older. So there's you saw there was two different fights tonight with these guys that you know bear was that hungry competitor. He was going for it Wes as we saw I didn't seem like he Had a whole lot of heart tonight great. That's true. I mean and Wes used to be like jacked. That's what I'm testing out a little more people in here writing that Wes is past his prime. They think and like I said bear apparently he was training with Theo during the offseason and and guiding gain some muscle and it's getting a little more jacked up. Yeah. Laura was like she could tell that he or she seemed like his body tonight. Yeah, very very confidently. They they definitely had some fun that night progress. Alright guys, so as I told you before the lines are open, so give us a call is he was saying the chapter they want to call just hit up sub 4 2 4 3 5 4 8 3 0 2. Yeah, call us up. If you'd like. We're going to keep talking until we get some calls, right? So what else did you guys think about this show because it was there were so much and let me jump in real quick guys. I got a caller on the line. I know who you are and where you're calling from. Or let us guess. Oh, no. Let's see if the audio is working. Yes. Keep going for just one second. All right. Okay. Yeah, like I said I wanted was to win man. I want him to switch teams so bad. I thought that I've been so cool been the first out of been a big thing for the for the I thought I for sure thought bear was going to switch. I didn't think it was bad. But I think it would have been predictable and I think with the word bear was standing he wanted that honor, you know. Yeah, I'm Gonna Keep both the problem is I think they're in keep voting in Bear every guy's elimination. You think now just because the numbers are against him cause he doesn't have any Rogan and Josh aren't gonna flip this switch sides. You know, I'm saying they're not going to switch to they all will be should we should vote ourselves and so bear. Can I have a day off? Right right. Maybe you're just get another vote in because he's a rookie right? I'm not stupid. Okay, he dresses like a beast and then that night and that's fair and I told and I can agree with you on that for sure. But I just that's why I thought there could have been. Theory switch to a team but that because then at least he has Josh below them and I'm right then again that could have ended quickly to oh and by the way, like everyone was getting mad at Josh for rooting for Georgia last episode which I I believe Laurel who's who's more prominent strong on that team was voting for bit rooting for bear. No one had an issue with it. So it's really based on if you're a strong competitor will let it slide. It's like anything right? Right. I just feel like Josh he's they feel like Josh is easy to pick on not hands down. Yeah, it's so that's why there is right - she's like you're just rooting for Georgia because you want to get some from her. Oh, yeah. So what actually that's awesome. The tour is really cute. But that's why I can't just ban everyone have a go. Let me interrupt real quick. I think I got everything running from now. We have a caller on the line call it let us know who you are where you're calling from. There we go. They hung up on me, but we got another one right away. Here we go. Call her let us know who you are where you're calling from. Hi, my name is Kayla and I'm calling from Long Island. Hey, Kayla, thank you for staying up late with us. Yeah. Yeah, so I really like I had a high and low but the episode but like when that confused me with Josh, I don't really believe that Josh that move the he pulled with very smart. I think he still is in be playing a big brother game and I feel like you can't come to the challenge trying to play a big brother. Because I am a fan of big brother and they play like really sneaky things games over there. And I don't think it will work over here and the more people so I want to ask you guys do you think after him boating in West especially like the amount of people that I saw like mad like I saw Polly I saw like, I think car and Camber upset. Do you think that's going to put a Target on his back hands down? Yeah. That's actually really good point. I agree with you and you know, as you saw yeah, the team members were upset and I think he's definitely gonna have a Target. Argot and that's going to divide the team even more but that also begs to question two. Is he going to have now support from Johnny from Jordan, you know, obviously Laurels got his back. So here's here's the thing. Here's the thing Kayla Josh had a talk on his back no matter if you made this move or if we didn't make this move, so at least he made his mark on challenge history and very no matter what bananas Jordan they're all gonna go for him first if needs because they think he's the weakest competitor. So at least he was able to take out one of those big guns. Don't say they're going to try to vote him out. So that's my opinion on that whole thing. And I've seen other people play Big Brother moves Wes has been doing big brother who had a pretty successful with it. So, I mean, it's just a matter of time Josh will not win and that's a crazy prediction. I know but you never I know. All right, you guys, I don't know if you got touched on they're not but what do you guys think? And Laurel make a cute couple. Well, hold on tonight that she likes she thought it was really a hot with Barrett. So maybe now they get back together and Laurels throw in the dust because I like I like Georgia more. Yeah, I like George and bear way way more. Yeah, I agree. I agree. I mean Laurels cool. Don't get me wrong, but Mail, it is a phenomenal. It is a female elimination last night next week. So in theory, but she's such as it would be he's a strong competitor UK would have to win. Yeah, and and then they would obviously built into u.s. Teams and and Kayla could be right because if UK wins, they're gonna be gunning for the biggest competitors on the US side. So Laurel could be on the chopping block so good. That's a good question. That's actually yeah. That's what I just said. The the last time Laura was on a challenge like the challenge she had to be on. She lost so you never know. Yeah. Yeah, I'd love to see Laurel go against car just because they're such enemies right now and they're all the same team. So that'll be fun. So I don't I don't want to steal or go home now. Yeah, that's for sure. But that is a good point though. I'm sorry. Thanks for calling Kayla. Thank you so much Kayla. Hey Jonathan. We'll go to not at the moment. Let's get our callers in though. All right, come on guys. Give us a call. Kayla was great. Thank you Kayla. Thank you Kayla. We appreciate you staying up late out there. What time is it? So do you guys think in future episodes? Like let's just go to our predictions. Do you guys think that anyone is going to switch over? Yeah, I think Great question. I really do I would have said bear and he didn't do it tonight. So he is he's not going to do it. Now. If he didn't do before you could say Josh might if this but he'd have to win an elimination. Yeah, it's just gonna be rough on him. I don't suppose I said West to and West is now gone, right? I feel like there's going to be some twists that were not going to see how maybe she met someone is going to switch. I just know that there's this rule for a reason and I just I someone's got to do it, you know, it's gonna happen eventually. I don't know. Ooh-hoo now at this point, I really don't but I think it's gonna happen. Yeah. I may be a CT because he did say tonight that it's getting old. Yeah. Yeah, and he's getting old else maybe he wants to hop on the US side and he wouldn't be maybe he would be on the chopping block if he even went to the US I but at least he be winning more challenges there for the UK would have to be in theory. They could be rooting in the voting in the UK site and I feel like he's in a really good position on team UK though. I feel like if he was on team USA's he would be on the bottom there. Yeah, that's true. He might be on the chopping block more on the US side, which is yeah. So I feel like he should just stay someone who I think what do it I don't know if he's going to but I can see Johnny doing it because everyone knows Johnny's games. Everyone knows just like Wes Johnny is sneaky, right so I can see Johnny switching over to team UK has also just just to be Johnny. Yeah, just to make a move to be that only guy to make that move. I can see it Yea Yea wouldn't wouldn't be Beyond him. That's true who definitely wouldn't sorry guys. So let me jump. Pin right there. That's a good point. We have another caller on the line. So call her let us know who you are where you're calling from. Hello, my name is Jessica and I am calling from Houston Jessica. Was it to am there? Yeah, thanks for staying up. Yes. Thank you that love you guys. Thank you. We love you, too. You don't even know. I just want to say this episode made me cry because West gives me life. And I'm sad that he's gone. And another thing. He's in yeah, it's usually Zach and Jenna. I'll say I'll say this Jessica they did show Zach tonight. He puked in the water. Yeah, you know, I'm surprised they're not showing that rivalry between you guys off. But another thing um, have we heard George's friend? What's her name? The Co in Jennifer have we heard them speak yet? Uh, I think like once not twice G. Yeah. I still refer to her as George's George's friends. Yeah, yeah, literally, I don't think I think they showed a picture of her tonight. But and why is she continued to skate under the radar? You know what I mean? Like well she's going next week next week Jessica. Right and then like, you know, like another thing I feel like with Nicole and Jennifer can't tell them apart. But like I said, do you heard me say last week when big people home? They don't want to go up against Jennifer because look at her she's being yeah I said, but that's to me and watching challenges years have been watching it that's playing a scary game and you're going to have her skate right to the final same thing with Nicole because I haven't cause everyone saying that She's a weak player but there but you guys not throwing her in because they love George because they're friends with Georgia. But still you guys are going to give her a ticket to the final because you don't want to call her down like a cheese as weak as you guys say she is call her down, but they don't call Jennifer dumb because they're scared of her and they want to call Nicole down because she George's friend. Why does that we will never see them so I'm like, that's right unless the u.s. Is going to throw Jenny and against one of the other girls Jenny's probably not going in she and she's jacked that are like well in the thing is Fargo against each other. That sounds cool. Yeah. Well the thing is like they have to remember that the challenge is not just about brute strength. We have puzzles also like you have to like use your brain to sometimes when it's like that one season where Devon be bananas Drew and it was what was that? Huh? Yeah, it was a slight challenge. So I love it. Right so it's not always just like a brute strength type of Challenge and I think they're forgetting that and none of them have been Challenged with their mind yet exact we have no idea how strong Jenny could be. She might not be able to put a puzzle and we don't know Nicole might be the smartest person in that house. And when I challenge you all know and I also feel like they do that with Cara every season because no one until someone has the balls to call her down like they did bananas. Cars and keeps getting into the final leg because no one has ever had the balls to call her down because she see how she is because if it's something physical and she goes some to school with Georgia. There's there's no question between that but if there's something between her and Jennifer that's even playing field but until somebody has had the balls to call Carter down like they have done bananas time. After time. We will never know and car hasn't seen an elimination and I don't know how long I mean that's that's a good view party. It's gonna it's gonna Be tough to get any of the US girls out in theory if the u.s. Keeps winning though, too. That's the other that's a good thing. It just is what it is. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you so much. You love everyone I do. I'd just like to give up one more caller. Yeah, Jonathan. What do you think? They're not on the line yet? But let's go. Okay. I know I have one car that's been calling for the past like five minutes. Okay, so wasn't going to get it but just one moment they'll call back in. All right, so you know who I am what I'm surprised. I'm not. Seeing this season the Rivalry between Zack and bananas from last season. Yeah, I'm was that even like a robbery that I don't know if they really they were pissed. He was pissed enough though, right? Yeah. Yeah, they kind of can't look up maybe they saw it over the oscillator to yeah, and they did touch on it on the reunions, but it didn't seem like it was squat when they touch on the arena. They said he worked things out. I forget what they know. They didn't work things out like Zach. You know, he I think he apologized and Johnny was like Remember, yeah. So yeah. So Zach apologize for leaving early not being rent honest about his intentions in that game and not taking it seriously and blah blah blah blah. Yeah, maybe they haven't really hit me. Maybe they talked about on this season. They decided not to show that footage because it hasn't been that, you know part of the game that I need to show that to make the storyline work this right? Yes. And again, we haven't seen a whole lot of action from Zack. So we really have it here that one funny line tonight though. We did he say where he's like, it's about being emotional or Like that about Josh or something. Yeah, it was funny though. Oh, he he said about Ninja she said a ninja like, how dare you college, right? You know, he's not him. How's that? That's not emotion. Of course Josh. Are you left the room being emotional speaking of funny lines turbo remember what he said during the challenge like I feel bad for hamsters. All right, guys, I got one more color in. All right, let us know who you are where you're calling from. Martin from Colorado a MARSOC Manon Hey guys. I just want to like go back to just scale it back to like the whole Western Berlin Nation actually don't really feel bad about Wes in this situation particularly after that like racist nonsense. He did today long last season, but that's for another conversation. But also you should already know how soon he have a player he is if you washed world or or the first world or roles, if you don't know, how much is this he is from last season that you deserve to like get voted off and also, Like cars getting through the finals. I would actually like to see like like some like the girls like call out some like the veteran girls like Laura like I want to see a role in Jenny battle Yeah, that would be awesome. Yeah, but yeah, I definitely don't like I love car like I love watching her but I don't want to see her skate to the end of a another challenge. I agree. I agree definitely Challenger and we got to see what these new competitors can do as well exactly. I agree. So yeah, and then you know to touch on what You said to about the West situation? I agree 100% West shot himself in the foot tonight, you know and he has played these same type of games. Yeah, so just you know kind of what comes around goes around. He got caught off guard and like he admitted bear was the better man tonight. You know, really? I agree. Yeah as in regards to the Laurel Jenny battle that's going to be really hard to get going because say the UK wins, why would they send in their best player and it right and if the u.s. Wins and they do vote in Jenny, why would they try to Laurel end with Jenny so unfortunately, they wouldn't want to give me a chance you could lose that would be an epic battle would but I just I don't see any really hard for it to happen. If you think they would throw it in place of her though in place of who Lauren who won yet time and place of Laurel in that situation if Jenny one. Yeah, if Jenny one, well the UK would get to decide right? No, I'm sorry if the u.s. Won and they voted in Jenny. Yeah, they could just vote it another UK player. They don't have to take their own player. But if they wanted the u.s. Player they would think. I'm mad at you. I think they've done fresh meat or something as we saw tonight West went in. Yeah, I didn't see no, he didn't get a chance to escape easy. So anything could in theory happen, but yeah, you're gambling and you know a Gamble's a gambling but like I said, so it's tough if you want to put Laura Lynn, there's a good chance. You might be going home, right if you have the balls to do it, but then we have to remember Laura. What about Laurel and a ninja battle? That's just me. That'd be cool to watch too. Yeah, if you call the well, we gotta have the UK actually win something for him. We could do that. Sure. Whoo. Whoo. Whoo You have on that Laurel Laurel minja. Yeah, depends what it is. If it is it physical I mean either way if it's physical I still was so far. They've all been pretty physical. Yeah, if it was a physical ninja here, maybe ninja yeah, it's fun. Yeah. Yeah, not at all. Anyways. Yeah. We're that. Thank you so much man, Marty Marty McFly. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. All right guys, thank you so much for calling in good questions will do this next week. This is I think so tell us in the comments below if you liked it. If not, you know, we're still probably gonna do it. So, that'd be fun. Alright guys, that is all the time we have today for today. Why don't you guys go and let them know what your handles are? Yes. Thank you guys so much for hanging out this thank you to the caller's. That was really awesome going to talk with you guys. Keep calling in and chatting with us as always David Christopher find me on Instagram. I'm David Christopher on Twitter at I'm David see underscore. You can change it all your handles. I had to yes the damn lingering on Instagram. Hit me up guys. What's up guys? 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