I'm Seaman rule Welcome To Live Like You're Dying the podcast my personal journey of living with terminal cancer has led me to believe that most of the perceived problems and worries going on in our heads could be changed by embracing the simple fact that we all only have one life and that none of us are promised another day on this beautiful planet. We all call home regardless.Of our current health status after all would you seriously stay in the job you hate or the relationship that makes you miserable. If you truly felt your life could end next year. Hell no, you'd be out doing the things that make you happy and you certainly wouldn't be worrying about your dress size either in this groundbreaking podcast. I interview people who are living incredible lives not despite adversity, but the cause of it through their inspiring stories. You too. Will uncover the life-changing magic of living like you are dying. You're a journey to a more connected. Joyful and compassionate Life starts right now today. I'm joined by Doctor David Hamilton David has a PHD in organic chemistry and spent four years in the pharmaceutical industry developing drugs for kaido cardiovascular disease and cancer. Inspired by the placebo effect. He left the industry to write books and educate people and how they can harness their mind and emotions to improve their health. He is now the author of 10 books including the little book of kindness how your mind can heal your body. I heart me and the Amazon bestseller the five side effects of kindness. He writes a regular blog on his website and occasionally blogs for The Huffington Post. David is a kindness are for psychologies magazine and rakes the kindness conversation and the kindness project. He is also the life hacks monthly columnist for Soul and Spirit magazine and in 2016. He was voted best rater by readers of kindred spirit magazine. David is featured in the award-winning documentary. He'll he appears regularly in the media and was recently featured on channel 4's live show Sunday brunch. In the UK and CBS Sunday Morning in the USA. David is an advocate for kindness and is working passionately to help inspire a Kinder World. Hello, David or hope you honor my God. That sounds like a quick we have to use in my bio just treated it like oh, wow. It makes me so much more interesting than actually it's quite an impressive by all of it. I don't know about that. Yeah. Well, that's us That's me being Scottish it when people I find being Scottish when people compliment me the first time make my habit is to play it down. You know, I don't think it's very much a Scottish Leonardo anyone could do that and I think I think when when I'm in America if I compliment someone they go right on. Yeah. Great. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. I am ball those things that I do I should because I have a book on self-love. I should embrace that people say something nice to be my face cause red. This is well. It's over before it even afford it. Yeah, thanks. Anyways so much for seeing all those nice things. Thank you so much for being on my podcast - it's an absolute honor to have you on here my first fellow Scot so brilliant, as you know, the topic is about inspiring listeners to live there like life as if they're dying. So really to embrace that Fact that we all are only promised today. Yeah, and I just would really love your take on that and how some of your experiences in your life that shape that but to start with you could just give a little introduction to yourself aside from that impressive bio. I thought well, I guess my background actually is organic chemistry, which is nothing to do with organic food. I always find myself explaining that because we're in this this time what a lot of people are Are looking to switch to healthier Lifestyles and whenever I say I'm an organic chemist people assume it's something to do with organic food. But an organic chemist, let me tends to work in the pharmaceutical industry. So that's really what I did my PhD in organic chemistry, but I used to build cardiovascular and cancer drugs and when I see build, it's just like Lego but instead of using colored bricks of different shapes and sizes the Lego bricks of an organic chemist and atoms but the principles Exactly the same and out of carbons hydrogen's nitrogen's and oxygens. We assemble a variety of shapes the vast majority of which become the medicines that people gets get prescribed it when they go to the doctor. So I was working on cardiovascular medicine and cancer and I got really inspired by the placebo effect, you know, the sheer number of people who were improving on placebos and rather than just the semester as just a placebo effect, and I'm saying that an inverted Commerce because that's what most of my colleagues would say. It's just a placebo effect. I think the way my mind works is I couldn't accept that I needed to work but what's happening and why so I started to research and uncovered a pile of research data and evidence that showed that when you believe something that belief itself Alters your brain chemistry in your brain networks and ultimately has a physic can have a physical effect on the body. So I left the job. The four years and started writing books and you know graphing talks and workshops helping people to understand that relationship between the mind and the body but more than that how they can use that how they can harness it in a positive way to improve areas of the health and it's absolutely phenomenal. So the first time I became aware of you was in that documentary I mentioned in your bio which is heel and it was I mean, it just blew my mind. It was amazing the stuff you were talking about and I think especially because of your your background as well. It really validated it a lot for me your thanks. Yeah. Yeah. I really loved you. I believe I was the last person it to be interviewed. I think they literally were just wrapping up the whole thing at the end. And one of the other authors being interviewed had mentioned me and they thought that be really great. So so they came they flew me over to New York and we did the interview and it was literally there were only Let's of Furnishing and about to start moving to Ed. So it's really can Allah Kiya. I was really pleased to be on it. Actually really pleased. It's amazing anyone who's listening who's not watched heel. You can get it on Netflix now, I believe and on Amazon Prime and it's definitely worth watching. It is absolutely brilliant. I've watched about four times. It's really really good. Do you watch that the first time I wore I watched the whole thing back as it was when it first. Came out actually commitment iTunes the year before and the very first thing I did when it came up Netflix was fast forward to all my bets to make sure I hadn't been cut out, you know, you know what you never know actors and films you never know with all that you do actually appears in the final edit because you know, it's got to edit to tell her a story. It's going to have an additive and I was just wondering if it altered the narrative in a way that hadn't because all my seven times I think and all my servant So exactly the same as the only thing they did was they cut it a joke that stalls I said I was describing the interior of an atom and I said so you got you got inside a sale you find DNA sequencing the DNA you find items and said the items there's nothing there except protons neutrons electrons, and then I said croutons and morons the abruptly cut that but I could tell the really sharp jump cut the didn't like you. Good Scottish humor anyway, so it's brilliant. So we talked in the past in previous conversations about kind of your take on this and some of your experiences and something we were talking about which you mention in your book. I heart me. He's your dog Oscar. Yeah. I wondered if you could talk the lister's to your experience with Oscar. Yeah. Sorry. That's it's been a lie. He's hoping that someone at the door, I'm just gonna have to ask my life partner. She can answer that so funny. All right. Sorry, that's what happens when you're doing a live a live interview and you're living in a house in a busy street and dunblane all the odds commitment absolutely does. Yeah, it's so yeah, that's what my dog Oscar. He came into my life believe it or not it two days before I started working on a book on self-love and he passed away two days before I finished and he Let's learn and I think he came into my life for that reason, but I learned so much from I mean literally I've said this, you know, I've written about this in many ways that you're literally changed my life. But one of the significant things is you had to get a leg amputated at one point and it was a it was a lifetime's leg. And I remember when we took him in from the operation. We would all Ted up we were really terribly upset. And you know, we went to pick him up from the vet at the end of the day and it had this of completely messing layer. Give us stole say me dosed and the vet told us to put our toll underneath these back end because he won't understand that. It doesn't have a leg and we were true. I was crying, you know Elizabeth. My partner was crying and we were devastated and I managed to get him home and he woke up in the middle of the night and Decided you needed to go to the Loo. Thank you been under anesthetic and all that. And again, we have to put this tow a lot Penny. He was swaying side to side because he was still cannot under anesthetic was so slightly doors and we were crying because the try to take him out saying they couldn't support his own weight. It was all because it was under the anesthetic a little bit and it was traumatic and the swaps it could barely sleep all night, but then the most magical thing happened, but they slept on Till about 9:00 o'clock. Then he got up just got up bones than the one leg because dogs it took most of the weight believe it or not on the front two legs on the front arms. You could say, I think it's Lex at least 60 percent of the weight they take on the front. So that's why a lot of dogs can actually quite comfortable thing with cats a without one of the back legs and then he just got up any tail was wagging picked up a ball and stuff have to play with it and then in that too. The back to go to the Loo I just bounced away on one leg. And is that it's a this is what happens every day. And then he said and it was like he didn't even notice and then luckily for the next couple of months. It'll literally it just loved his life as normal. I mean, he actually I kept saying to people I don't know if he actually noticed that he's missing a leg. How does he know that? This isn't just what happens in life. Obviously, they I'm putting a human anthropomorphizing at the sluicey honor and I'm put humans when he won't actually be thinking of having a conversation. Actually said and that's what happens kind of thing. You just took it in this straight living in the moment is there you know, this is just my life and he just got on with his life and he was as happy as it was before hand and that was a life changing moment for me because it suddenly thrust me into looking at all. The things in my life that I can said that problems stuff that I complained about worried about and I thought Oscar's just had these back leg taken I doesn't care a jot. He's literally just bouncing away happily is that this is the kind of thing that happens every day and it was just and and not a not overstating it when I say for me. It was a life changing event. It was suddenly thrust into that reality of So much of happiness is related to how you look at things your attitude to things and if Oscar was a typical if article with me, I could not have bounced back that quick. I'd been you know talking about either been hot. I live in you know feeling sorry for myself. Sometimes I don't know. I've not been in that kind of situation, but I absolutely know that despite all my spiritual training and all my positive fact, I think most of my positive thinking Probably have gone right out the window for a period of time as I as I came to terms with what happened, but you know Oscar is the newest just got on with his life. It was asked workers that it was that totally mindful living in the moment and it was inspiring to me and I got to live with that every single day for the next, you know, three months of that inspiration of him. Just teaching me every day about living in the moment. Wow, and at the animals and children they can teach adults so much so much. Yeah. Yeah it really it really was a life-changing thing. I mean I learned so much from Moscow about plea as well. And about what's important. Remember he broke my laptop screen once and I think he did it on purpose because I I was the playmate and the house despite the fact that when he arrived as a poppy I was You know, I assumed I'd be the head of the household in the mail the alpha male. Yeah, I just assumed that but in actual fact, I was number three and the house so Oscar was one Elizabeth was too and I clearly was number three and the pecking order and so he just saw me is that the person that plays with me every day and and I don't have I found the time but I was going and I between walking and playing spent about five hours together playing or walking every day to this. The I don't know how I fit in that time. I mean, I do remember I used to get up obscenely early in the morning and work for two hours got cut past five. Something's in the morning work for two hours before I got Oscar up them to go for a walk. So I did manage to fit everything in but we play in the evenings as well. But so but that's protecting me what he broke my laptop. We were under certain watching the tell a typical night and he'd been sleeping and he got up and I saw him having re-stretch and you just Turned at me and smiled. There's a fuzzy right Dad. I'm going to find a ball and then he would go pack up a ball and chain to play and that's one time as many times. I'm sitting on my laptop try to catch up on some work that our message during the day and I'm I'm typing away and he'd go there's a few said that if we do not play with me and I got Jaime boy and I kick title and he'd look at me and then he come up and what you always used to do was stick his wet nose in my eye socket and that was his way of seeing. I'm right in your face here. Do you not understand? It's playtime, you know when I get up and I'm a week we either eat or we play so I'm not eating right now. So clearly it's playtime dad. What are you doing? And so slick note the way I let the weight noise and I sock it doesn't know he's pushing them off and I'm probably talking are wary because I'm desperately trying to finish this email and he saw the laptop as often happens, and he just looked at his nose and he gear up bug nudge like that. It fell on the floor and scream broke awareness it broke at the crack, but it went off fuzzy and violet indigo and violet and slept up. So sorry it slipped down. So the actual the portion of the skin with water and actually slept underneath. I use a Mac underneath the dock so you couldn't actually see the bottom of the screen and and then I had no choice but to just play and then I love that and he used to do it all the time and it Eventually what happened when I finally got the message. It was a couple of weeks later. I finally got through to me that Oscar just wants to play and I'm taking my life too. Seriously and I'm taking myself and my work too. Seriously if he wants to play Let's have a we have first timer I can catch up another time. I can fly I can adapt to this see when I really got that this is going to sound corny, right? But my my screen started working again spontaneously healed it. Yes, of course. It did David, you know, the child doesn't want to feel second best to to laptop because the child doesn't understand what See as you're choosing that over me and Oscar was the same the dog was the same. You said he you're choosing that over me, but I'm gonna break it for you to make sure that you understand the message here. So but when I really got the message and really took that on board that it's about living in the moment and giving your time and attention to people that need you more important than finishing a couple of emails that can wait really, they're not that it's not the end of the world. The first email doesn't give reply to for example today when I really got that message from Allah. Top heel that stuff just started walking so funny. I think that's such an important message because I think especially now when we all have mobile phones and laptops and iPads and not so many gadgets. Yeah, we're constantly in this I need to reply no no, no and we're missing the moment. Absolutely. So important. You're absolutely right and that's that's typical in this world and I'm seeing typical as if it happens to everyone except me, but I'm exactly the same and I'm very conscious of the fact. That I spent far too much time on my on my devices and I call it work, but do I need to be doing it as much as I do probably not, you know probably know I could spend more time. I think what let just about everyone. I know I could probably spend more time having a bit more balance in a bit more. I mean I try to I play tennis about four times a week and I make a point of absolutely doing that usually during my lunch hour, but some things like this morning I was down in the The court eight o'clock it playing a game is so I try to fit that in at least four times something's five or six and it's part of what I do to relax also to keep fit as well. But it's like I think so many of us we have to really get that into your heads the importance of not giving our life away to a device. He's not giving our life away to what we perceive as more important things which in the grander scheme of things. Maybe they're not quite Important as we think they are. Yeah, and I think we can we can make them seem more important. Especially when we associate that word work with them. This is work. Yeah, that actually is it is it needed work? Yeah. Yeah. It's I think we really need to alter power on board that me too Anita's. Well, I was gonna saw Oscar Believers in your life. Was it for two years three years or two when he passed away it was too. Yeah, just two years and two months actually and I wanted to Ask some of the values that he taught you in going through his short life with you and his life being cut unexpectedly short still, you know, you've talked about that value of playing more and working less and valuing your time. Is it is because I'm the reason I'm asking I know you're such an advocate for kindness and connection with others. So, is there anything around that yeah, absolutely. I would see my recognition of the importance. Of kindness went up by an order of magnitude when I suddenly had to you know, be a parent to Oscar is actually to be honest. I didn't want to have a dog that was it was Elizabeth Arden Elizabeth who they wanted a dog and she wanted a labrador for years because she had the experience of her neighbors when she was young had a Labrador and Elizabeth used to look after them quite a lot and I really didn't want The dog because I didn't think I thought I was too busy and I didn't really feel I needed the extra responsibility. So I became a reluctant bad but it literally changed my life. Literally when all of a sudden you recognize in those first couple of days that this but little puppy is completely and absolutely dependent upon me. And he so much so that he followed me around. I mean, I was a joke about not being alpha male, but I think he didn't print on me and that right at the start because he literally followed me around everywhere. I mean, it was like my feet for watch certain watching TV in the evening is lying at my feet and I thought I'll just nip and and get a cup of tea and the moment I get up. He just gets up wakens up Falls me and I'm boiling the kettle and it comes in camps under my legs again what I'm talking my feet and he just he followed me everywhere. And suddenly realizing that he is completely and absolutely dependent upon me and I had written at that point one of my first book and kindness a few years earlier and it's like just actually the you really like I said the book and Kane is published by came. This is good for you. It was my first on the subject. And all of a sudden being faced practically worth a little pop that was completely dependent upon me. It made me take the message of of kindness to heart. But I really had to do everything I could to care for them to look after them which really was kindness and compassion but to to try to make him happy and have a really great life and that was accelerated. Obviously when he he got sick when he was about 18 just over 18 months old. That for me to keep my I get called at the awareness of kindness to another level. You know, I probably just like anyone else normal, but I think sometimes in life situations thrust themselves upon you which tests you do you really can you walk your talk on another level. Can I think so. I would see that X Oscar's been in my life accelerated my awareness. Us and thinking about kindness and it's no surprise that when you passed away, you know a year later I published another book on kindness and then another one again just this year and that's been an acceleration. It really sends us have been in my life because I had to I was faced with the need to be kind every single day several times a day every single day in my life where it previously really just been out in the street or when people needed me, but now it was Every day in my life and some respects and and so that you know, I like to take put a positive spin on things I suppose and I would say that I'm grateful it for the experience of even Oscar was only in my life for two years and it was traumatic towards the end, but I'm grateful for the experience because it literally changed my life but especially on kindness and so I've written a lot since then on what kindness does to you. Five side effects of kindness is my best-selling came this book and I really charted all the physiological and psychological effects of what happens when you be kind and it all comes down to how that makes you feel. So in other words one of the thing the points I've made in all of my rating and when I speak about it is the only way that you can benefit from an act of kindness physiological or psychological as if you mean it and I call this naturist Catch-22 you can Gain, from an act of kindness if you don't mean it because all of the physiological benefits the effect on the cardiovascular system on your heart your arteries on the immune system and the nervous system all of those benefits come from how you feel and the only way you can get the feeling as if you mean it you can't do an act of kindness and not mean it because if you don't mean it you can do the act of kindness and not mean it won't benefit you in the slightest because you don't feel it. But if you mean it and for that court that creates a feeling that psychologists and social scientists call elevation, which is a broad term that describes that feeling of warmth or connection or even gratitude of satisfaction that comes from kindness It's the opposite of the feelings of stress in many ways. It's that feeling that generates a very important hormonal changes in the body and even in changes in little small molecules in the body that have fantastic effects. They have lot don't they give rise to do When you effects of positive stuff inside the body by boosting the immune system turning the nervous system causing an anti-inflammatory effect causing a blood pressure lowering effect. And it's absolutely wonderful how all that happens, you know, and I would say amazing. Yeah, it's absolutely amazing. I love talking about it. It's so exciting because this stuff wasn't really well known in the public until they wrote the book. I mean, I'm not being Scottish. I'm not trying to blow my own trumpet. I don't mean that I mean the research has been there in the medical journals, but unless somebody goes into those journals and pools are all the data and writes it in a format for the average person No One Ever Knows about it. And so I'm quite proud of the fact that I dived into the jungles of saying took the medical journals. They sociology journals the psychology journals and I pulled all that stuff at collected all together and packaged it in a way that the average person can read and go. Wow, that's absolutely amazing. And I think that's why I get so passionate. Talking about it, but Oscar certainly catalyzed that by bringing home to me the experience by forcing upon me. They need to be kind every single day several times a day kind and compassionate. It's amazing and I agree. It's it's really good to have it in the public eye because so, you know, I handed out I hunt was still do hand out random acts of kindness and I had no idea about all the these benefits that were going on in my body. Get that and I think it's just we want to make the world a Kinder place than it is about talking about this in a much more open. We in the value of kindness not just to the person receiving it that the person authentically being kind as well. I was going to ask you so the podcast is obviously about that notion of the living like we're dying and realizing the fact that you know, our lives could end at any point any of us regardless of our health status. So would you say that your number one value? Value within that or maybe it's something else but is it the kindness? Is it about being kind to people? Yeah, that's like when you first asked me to go on this podcast and I had I had a long think about what what my message would be and it really boiled down to that. I think for me it really boils down to the fact that I want to make people happier if I can. And you know people people close to me, for example, if I was really just having to live in the moment then I think what I'd been looking to do is improve the lives of first of all the people in my media life and and then it but then I would find myself it looking to little let you talk about a lot as little random acts of kindness, you know, you people on the street people at certainly in shops. I mean, I love just being nice to shop assassin. And I love being nice to customer service staff. Yeah, especially because that's not what they used to get. You know what I had and it's funny how it comes back on you in a really positive way. I was flying to Australia a couple months ago. I had a conference that I was speaking out and because of the way my diary what time is literally in Australia for six days. So all I remember is two weeks of jet lag and being there for a week and by the time Leaving Australia my body clock had caught up with Australian team. Then I was flying home. So obviously it's like for a fortnight and but but I remember when I was going over there and I didn't know that you're supposed to ask for you know, like a vegetarian or vegan meal. I don't know. I thought they would have plenty in the didn't have any so when it came to me because I'm certain economy class the way at the back of the plate the clean so I was one of the last to get served. And did nothing a vegetarian or a vegan left and the girl was so apologetic and do the sun. She was expecting me to make a fuss and I didn't ask that don't worry about it some sort of saying I honestly didn't know I was supposed to preorder. Thanks for letting me know cause I'll definitely do that on the return and she's always there anything else I could get for the acid will be most gonna have that little bread roll. That'll do. I'm actually that that's fine and I'm is a joke, and I thought you know Actually fasting is really healthy and I've been meaning to start fasting maybe one day a week. So this is great. So what I might do for have that bread roll that would be absolutely fine. But, you know great and she was just so blown away by the fact that I didn't make it out to be wrong. I didn't get one turn apparently customer service staff are used to people being mean to them. So so she said, oh here take a leap. You want your bottle away your little bottle - oh, yes. Thanks very much. Then she said, oh here take another one to give it to So anyway, I'm certain the mou been a drawing but quite of an hour later. She comes back up with a really high-end meal that should borrowed or stolen from first class first class and phone. There was one vegan meal left and it was amazing that was like proper Force pre-pack you pull the plastic off. That's a proper bag Buster. Hey Courtney, she came back. I'm just like I just I really wanted to give you this. You're so nice. L am really grateful that you were so sweet and gentle about it and you know, we had this new spear. So please take it and she gave me another Revolt the way and all from just simply being nice to someone and I'm not saying that kind of thing happens every day, but it does happen more than it doesn't meaning if you're nice to someone it usually comes back around in some way because if you're nice to someone one then this feeling better research shows that that always has a ripple effect to even if you're nice to a shop assistant for example, and that's your persistence feeling better. They will pass that good cheer on to the next few customers. And then those customers will go feeling a little bit Boyd in this is a research shows that should this ripple effect is actually be measured by scientists. They will go on the street and interact one with a positive slope with other people, but not just one person, but with several people what you get end up getting Want some of the research found that if you became to someone then given the average degree of interactions that we have at the very least that person feeling a little bit better. We'll probably be kind of came down to five people over the next few hours later given the average degree of interactions that we have often times. It's more than that depending on where you work really interact but on average if you average out at least five Ah, that's called one social step. Um you but each of those five people will also feeling a little bit better be kind or kinder to a further five people over the next two or three years or so. Now we have 25 people and these are our two social steps from you. But research shows that it actually goes to three social steps. In other words, each of those 25 will be caned or cane dare to fight for the people. So that gives you 125 people are benefited just from one thing. That you did that was quite nice for someone and I'm the point I'm making is that happens every day several times a day. So it's so whatever you put out India the chances are you're going to get it back in some way and not necessarily as a physical event, but it might just be a change in the the positive tone or the gentle tone of the environment that you find yourself and and you wonder why it suddenly changed part of the reason why it's changed as a ripple effect of something that you did perhaps. Yes. Let's go The day before and you just haven't realized that what you do actually has consequences. That's amazing. Yeah. Yeah. So I love charting these little things and figuring all this out in my mind. Now of all these ripples of kindness that's brilliant. What is it? Cause you're doing random acts of kindness a lot and you're writing about that means it's incredible the amount of Goodwill that you're actually put there in the world and and partly seeing this for you benefit that you probably as a right. To let myself in this field probably don't even realize the good that you're doing because it becomes I think when you're making a point of being kind to people you stop noticing that that's what you're doing because it's just your habits. Just what you do and you know when you're yeah, it's just what you do. So you use forget to notice that people are actually benefiting from it. And I really just wanted to draw attention to the fact that for you and other people listening who are just naturally kind people you are. I'm making a phenomenal difference and even if you don't notice it every single thing that you see and do as actually altering the tone of the environment that you find yourself and plus the environments in the community and in the way their world, that's so powerful because it's that thing, you know, I have people say to me, you know, the world is in a bad place or you know, you all the stuff in the media what difference can I make what you're really drawn attention to is actually you can make a massive difference because You affect people's a hundred and twenty-five people and then someone else effects and it just goes on and on and on I will Proclaim we are changing our world for the better. Yeah. Yeah. I just something sticker weibo longer and I don't know this but how do you know that? How do you not know that maybe something you've said or done has somehow got back to what influenced in the moment post. Someone is feeling who's about to make a very important decision that has a way that effect in the world and how do you know that what you've done or said or written about has? And some way just had a little bit of an impact on that person's most recent interaction. And without realizing you might actually be influencing a major decision that's taking place and your community and your work or even in the world and you just never know but I'm point but I'd like to draw attention to the fact that you that we might as well keep doing it because it's the right thing to do but you're always making a difference even when you don't realize it. I think that's amazing. Yes, and it's so Powerful, I think everyone who's listening will take something away from that. Definitely. Yeah. I'm going to wrap up no to the way. I think I said, I don't like them our podcasts to overrun to able to run too long. I know people are busy living their lives, but the last question I always ask everybody. So I'm going to put you on the spot with it if you if you knew you were going to die tomorrow, what would you do differently to do? with your time Oh, wow. Oh, that's okay. That's putting in the sporty thoroughly do it. You know this the Soma I think what I'd do I'd want to do is get all of my loved ones together and tell them all home important. They are in my life and how much I love them all and it see if I can give each of its them a little bit of advice based on my person. Option of of them and with a life has some positive advice but really in a positive way talking them up you're doing great. For example, they are just express some gratitude for even specific things that's happened that they may have said or done that ventless more later. They might not have noticed how important that was. So I would spend my time doing that probably. I guess you were probably expecting me. I think it was this guide. I know I wasn't but that's all well that what and just that's what I would do. What always strikes me is people actually always answer really really really never liked or It Go, I'd want to go and see this place. It's actually I tell people I was that wonderful and that's the thing that we could actually do. It's within our grasp every single day, isn't it? That's true. And that's what I find really fascinating about this. Why waiting it's yeah why exactly, why wait It's amazing. Wow what I encourage you to tell them all. This is awesome. If this is a message is spreading to people my God's life changing. Actually. I never saw. Wow. I really hope so. So how can people find out more about you David and the amazing stuff that you're doing and I want my website is dr. David Hamilton.com and all my social media feeds you can access from the So Instagram and Facebook and David are Hamilton PhD, but you can act you can access that from my website there anyway, and on my website there's a courses Tab and I have a free course that I just gave away to anyone who wants it on the biology and contagiousness of kindness with over four lessons. I just teach it for video and audio lessons and worksheets are basically teach all the different ways that kindness has an effect and set you up. A practical exercises and challenges for getting the most out of it. So it's on the courses tab on my website. It's totally free. You don't need your auntie, you know saying anything that you literally just put your name and your email address so that my system knows where to send your login details to and that's a brilliant. Thank you so much for being on today David. I really really appreciate your time and for you sharing your Pearls of Wisdom. Life and kindness and your experience with Oscar. It's been really lovely and thank you so much. Well, thank you for you and it's been an absolute pleasure having this conversation. That's what it felt like a conversation to have loved at. Thank you. I'm femen Rule and you've been listening to live like you are dying the podcast you can follow me on Instagram Twitter and Facebook. And if you haven't yet, then go to your podcast app And subscribe rate and review this podcast join me next time for another inspiring interview about living like you are dying.
In this episode I speak with Dr David Hamilton about the importance of bringing play and kindness into our lives. David has a PhD in organic chemistry and spent 4 years in the pharmaceutical industry, developing drugs for cardiovascular disease and cancer. Inspired by the placebo effect, he left the industry to write books and educate people in how they can harness their mind and emotions to improve their health. He is now author of 10 books, including, ‘The Little Book of Kindness’, ‘How Your Mind Can Heal Your Body’, ‘I Heart Me’ and the Amazon bestseller, ‘The Five Side Effects of Kindness’. He writes a regular blog on his website and occasional blogs for the Huffington Post (US version). David is the ‘Kindness Tsar’ for Psychologies Magazine and writes ‘The Kindness Conversation’ and the ‘Kindness Project’. He is also the ‘Life Hacks’ monthly columnist for Soul & Spirit Magazine and in 2016, he was voted ‘Best writer’ by readers of Kindred Spirit Magazine. David is featured in the award-winning documentary, ‘HEAL’. He appears regularly in the media and was recently featured on Channel 4’s live show, ‘Sunday Brunch’, in the UK and ‘CBS Sunday Morning’ in the USA. David is an advocate for kindness and is working passionately to help inspire a kinder world. 