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Like you have the option of skipping the intro and if I if I could have skipped this intro every time I tune in to this show I would have done just that it's just I mean, I appreciate the you know, the word put into it is just so long. You know, we were talking earlier. It's like you said what to Game of Thrones intro. It's like as long as some like short episodes of T other TV shows I've seen anyway, whatever they were having a good show. Great show today, not a good one. Yeah, great one and a little bit later on. Well, you know towards the end of the show. I'm really really honored to be having Glenn Jacobs on my favorite Tag Team part. Nothing in sight all my my dearest friends. But first there was just something really special mean. Yeah. There was just something really special about about that the Eric, you know of our relationship on screen you guys want me to take Team of the Year and 19 more than once I think maybe more than once. I don't know. Anyways. Yeah, and we made made some money too. But mainly it was just creatively extremely satisfying. Yeah, but and a few minutes here, we're going to be joined on the phone by somebody. I'm so happy to see come back around the wrestling scene because he helped start a lot of the If that's going on right now when it comes to you know, Super Fan conventions and big events and wrestle cons. And on this Jonna resi was doing it before anyone. Well, actually there we will get into it. But anyways, John as John resi, he popularized all this and and he you know, he had a relationship with Vince Russo, you know, many years ago. They had a radio show together wrestlers Spotlight radio. Yeah, and they anyways we're going to talk about Out that a little bit. I just don't want to get into all them be us with John concern in Benson. 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I've noticed like I just kind of just felt like doing something around here, you know seeing everyone I wanted to come out and see us and in a ton of people came out to the wrestling guy store this Saturday and it was it was great. So I want to thank everyone really means a lot to me and made me feel really good. But anyways, I feel pretty cool about having a superstar in their Christmas picks this year. Right? So I think there was some pretty cool pics. They had some professional photographer and Christmas tree. And anyways, yeah. It was fun. It was great. That's cool. Awesome. So let's go ahead and jump into what was a very impactful episode of being the elite leaving the territory episode 130 sort of answered a lot of questions for us fans. We've sort of been room, you know, we've been talking about the rumors of all Italy wrestling career. Now, you know, we still only know what we know so far, but the Bucks have the bucks on Cody have officially said goodbye to Ring of Honor so they will no longer be being there at all. They said goodbye to that on that episode and And they also showed I guess you can say they performed a skit on there sort of contract dealings with the WWE. And now after this episode we know that they will not be appearing with them after they have expressed. No interest in the company. It was actually a pretty interesting episode to they had a character that was titled H so you can figure out who that was supposed to be they give him a letter at the beginning of the episode and then at the end of the episode we actually find out what Was in that letter and in the letter it said although this was a difficult decision. We watched an episode of Raw and salt what you guys did to the tag team Division. I know in the business the saying goes Never Say Never, but for now, we wish you the best in your future endeavors and according to this is apparently how it really went down between them. I mean, yeah, I'm sure if there's you know, different details and all of that stuff, but this is officially what we know. Okay, and so do we Know anything about the future of Adam Paige Martis curl. So Marty's girl is still within the compass still going to be with Ring of Honor. His contract is not up until April. Yeah. Kenny doesn't have a contract with Ring of Honor but his contract with New Japan is up in January. But and then as for dates when it comes to Kody and the bugs, the only date they have announced is January for for wrestle Kingdom 13. Got you. All right. Well their schedules are free. I tell I can I can totally understand where the Bucks are coming from when it comes to looking at the product WWE and how they treat tag teams. So you can say okay, you can see the deal as they present you with the opportunity and it's what you make of it. But you know, it's up to me for tag teams are a lot of times they can say, oh, don't worry. It's all up to you and how you make that's what you make of it not always. As that's bullshit like they can't yeah. Sorry. I hope I don't I'm not sorry. He don't but whatever. It's it's what comes at history says that tag teams don't get used. Well, yeah every now and again it's happened like but overall as far as using them as the you know, like for instance a Road Warriors Legion of Doom. I mean you are a main event act like a main event act and Yuri We ever saw them in the Main Event WWE show anywhere. So it's just the way that is WWE just the way it is. So I mean it's not you know, they treat the tag-teams well and XT but you know, so, you know understand what they're where they're coming from, you know, so good for the Bucs good for Cody and for wrestling. I think perfect would maybe be to just being in control of their own destiny that they want to be able to choose what they they do and when and who they're in a matchup against that whole idea has really become Cody Rhodes has kind of made that attainable. They don't really have the experience of you know, working in WWE to know the the positives and negatives, you know, first can like Cody does right so so true. Yeah. Well also one of the things that I wanted to add to this was that this is sort of like the peak of their career. This is sort of the right time for this for them to be making sort of a big move. And not only that the fans are really really excited to see what they're going to be doing. I mean they already broke Breyers with all in so I feel like now the bar is set a little higher for them. Yeah. So I just think WWE has shown that there they they use singles wrestlers as a tag team or instead of tag team. Yeah with you and Kane is a perfect example, you guys were both singles wrestlers and then you end up winning best tag team several times because it all worked out same with the bars is Our oh and Sheamus, but an actual tag team bringing in an actual tag team in worried. Like well one of these guys get hurts. They're both out. We can't really use them. So I think that's probably why WWE doesn't push tag team wrestling as much as well when we need it will just fill that void kind of thing. That's right, and they have a completely stacked roster which is about to get especially on Raw and SmackDown which is about to get a little bit more crowded recently. They have confirmed that they are six NXT Stars. Up to the main roster this includes Lars Sullivan, which we already knew in our excited for but also Lacey Evans the former Lady of NXT EC3 Nikki cross who you guys know from former sanity member and heavy machinery. That's Otis dose Civic and Tucker night will all be joining. WWE's main roster soon. Well, so my main I'm just not going to go through that list. I'm just going to tell you a large Sullivan and EC3 are made for the main. Roster absolute more so than then XT which they've been a great there too. But you know, I can just see, you know, I'm obviously large because I mean, he's just freakish like in so many ways but like EC3 is your like I look at him and I look at like a manner is I look at the you know as Mike skills. I mean, he's just he's tailor-made for, you know a good push on the main roster. Hmm. Absolutely and I think you guys will actually We be surprised by Lacey Evans. She's a great promo herself and heavy machinery may have the potential to get lost in sort of what we were just talking about about now, but we will see ya. So, all right. Well, hey, so I think right now do we take a break right now Market are we just bring John and let's just bring John in. All right, let's do it. We're ready. All right. So let's do it. You have an intro for John or no, just just a very little short one. Okay. All right. All right. We Rollin are we ready? All right guys, well joining us now. He is the founder of pro wrestling Spotlight radio, you know me as the host of that show. He also pushed his newsletter back in the day a source of info for all of us, please welcome to the show a guy who as you said earlier kind of started the whole thing over Russell cons and promotions and connecting the fans with the Stars. They love to see please welcome John are ready to make some noise for John. Yeah. Yo What's going on? Hey everybody. I just let everyone know this is the first time I've talked to John resident over 25 years, right? Yeah. I mean I'm a reincarnated dinosaur. That's what happened. I'm still John I was so I mean, I've been so happy when all the sudden I seen your name pop up on my Twitter app and my timeline and yeah just hit brought back somebody it's not I mean we were only around each other for that one weekend. On but it really left a huge impact to me and it was so important in my career man. You are one of the up-and-coming guys at the time and I heard so much about you and all the great things that you were doing at a Minneapolis and the have the opportunity to bring you into week in a Champions who is a pleasure for me. And of course we had the one radio radio visit at scores. Yeah, York City. Without Alex Marquez and Missy Hyatt Jason Harvey. Yep. That was kind of a crazy. Wow, and you have some tragic news during that show and that's right. It was it was surreal. It was too real then. Yeah, that was weird because I I didn't put two and two together like I don't know however many years later when I was filming like a DX video at scores, you know with all the ladies and everything that that was the same spot. We did that in all those years ago. Yeah. It was pretty it was pretty Gentlemen's club days. Yeah, when I was in there with with the radio show doing some remotes in there, but I mean, it's really bizarre for me to even be back and all of this because I left the business and 96 and I didn't I didn't turn back. I just left it changed my name and just got out. I mean I had gotten so burnt out and so disillusioned and and I just it was kind of a it was just kind of and then you know, No, and then slowly, I mean a few years ago Wade Keller asked if I had any of my old radio shows that people ask about me all the time. Everybody thought I was either dead or in witness protection. I got to admit man. I thought you might be dead John. Yeah, that's a lot of people thought you know, and so I gave him permission a put some of these shows up on his VIP site and all of a sudden it kind of like people were really digging the interviews. I did back in the day with like, you know behind the curtains with Ultimate Warrior and all the all the content and all those shows back in the day that no one else was really doing so so that was kind of a re-emergence for me. And then I did a few podcasts. I've got called by cornet a couple times and a few others. Yeah, and it was kind of fun to do it, but it wasn't really until it wasn't really until three weeks ago. My nephew who's a big wrestling fan got a passion for it. Just got out of college 21 years old. Brilliant kid Dominic DiBiase. Yeah, no relation. To Ted he sent me this podcast that Russo did about you know, his his his disagreements with the dirt sheet people and this talked about Origins and how we got started and and then only they just said a bunch of stuff that was really historically inaccurate, uh-huh and and some things need to be clarified. So I reached out and and they were very gracious to bring me on his show and we talked it out we had Gentleman's conversation. It didn't get heated when we talk through our misunderstandings from 27 years ago when I brought him into the business and it was a it was therapeutic for both of us and then I started just Twitter account the same time and it blew up but all those old content that I've been posting. So I'm like this is this is kind of cool. You know, it's really cool John because like I just I was looking to your, you know, all your tweets and and just some some of the pictures and And and and you're bringing like okay you you it's some people are gonna like might not really appreciate this but there's a lady named George and Mark crop spelled and pronounced. Yes GI. We always just called her Georgie Georgie Georgie Georgie. Yeah who passed away in 2010, but she was like from the 60s. She ran Buddy Rogers fan club. Yes Bruno's fan club, and she was kind of like the Chatterbox of wrestling. That was her. That was the name of her wasn't that the name of her little newsletter the wrestling Chatterbox. Mmm-hmm. Yeah, and she was a mentor. Yeah for all of us trying to get into the business and because Iran Freddie blassie fan club back in 1972. Yeah, and she helped me back in the day back all the way back then like get exposure and and give me some publicity and she was always there for everybody and matured. That's the type of stuff that I'm finding in my archives right now John and there's a there's Is a picture of Buddy Rogers and Bruno together that I think she was responsible for making happen, right? Yes, exactly. They you know had legitimate heat with each other all throughout the days, you know from 63 on to present day back in the day at 91. And then when I booked Rogers and Bruno my convention Georgie was able to get them to pose for a picture together, right and that was kind of like holy smokes. I mean, look they're standing next to each other. Other and and then she was able to get a picture of herself with both of them. And ironically I mean that was a photo that was that was buried with her. She you know, they put that in her casket. Well, yeah, what do I mean? It wasn't so tactful but she ran back in the early 60s. Hey, so John went when you did when you were like, okay we talked about and I mentioned that like you were pretty much like in my opinion the person that like all these wrestle con all these things like started with you, but there was actually like wfi a where you remember what you remember that ever. I was I was a member of the wfi a early 70s, but basically with those conventions were there were like these autograph right opportunities. It was really an organization of fans to get together and they had an award ceremony that would give out, you know, the best fan club of the year the best newsletter and the best wrestler and manager Italy. Here, so it was really an organization. That was was very great for those who were inside the business, right? It wasn't and for the fans and for the hardcore fans, but it wasn't it was more of a like, you know, there are meetings and panels and there were no tables for merchandise. I mean all the tables that were set up for the WFA. We're like me when I had my friend velocity fan club. I have it display. I had a display was a display about the fan club and that's basically what those what those displays were but it wasn't until really the week in a Champions that I always wanted to bring the fans in the wrestlers together. I thought it was a time that the timing was right and that there were so many there were so many so many wrestlers and performers that never had the opportunity to meet the fans before so that's why I I started the the week in the Champions to get the fans in the rest of together and get collectors together. environment to you know, just have a really good three-day weekend of just nothing but wrestling in and so John like the thing is as when you started doing that was right around the time that like the curtain fell as far as okay, you know the death of kayfabe or however you want to put yeah, so that was to me the difference flare in 91 because he never had that experience before right and he actually was in the ring when we did the auction and he was like, you know, I really was it was really was very uneasy about this. But now that I've seen what John did and this is this is a lot of fun. I'm enjoying I'm actually enjoying myself and that was kind of like tearing the curtain down getting thrown kayfabe out the window and that's when it really started wrestlers interacting with fans and talking, you know hanging out at the bar with Terry Funk and Buddy Rogers and error. I mean, it was just it was just an amazing opportunity and one of Proudest moments was bringing the original Chic and with Sabu in 93 for his one and only autograph of parents that he ever did and that was to me to this day because he stayed in character. He stayed in character and even my interaction with him what Kevin Sullivan and I was like, you know, I just thought it was kind of suspension of disbelief for me, you know giving Kevin Sullivan the payday to hand over so she can kind of wasted. Me and I just wanted to stay in character. I didn't want to talk to the dude because I didn't want that illusion. Yes, I want you know, sometimes we want to hold onto these images that we have of and yes. Yes. Yeah. I wish that more people would think about things that way not ruin everything for themselves. Yeah. I know and I see the way it's gone and the politics and you know, the the everyone's questioning booking, you know, I'm back in this for one reason. Using and one reason only T shared Nostalgia. Yes with the fans. I mean so many good memories and and Shawn and my archives. I mean I got movies. I shot film Madison Square Garden when I was when I was 12, I got Andre the Giant's first match at the guard mil mascaras his debut. I have you know, Pedro Chief Jay Strongbow Andre the funks. I got I shot Madison Square Garden ringside before we continue One of the ways we keep all these shows for you free is by our amazing sponsors, and today Spotify is one of our sponsors on Spotify. You can listen to all of your favorite artists and podcasts in one place for free. 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I produce when I was I wa s promoter and I ran that organization so the content that I have Is I could do this shit for years take it easy out there for years everyday posting stuff, but I want to find a way to bring it to the fans in a way and I'm contemplating. What I'm going to do in 2019 and I haven't made that decision yet. I see there's a market for it. Yes, and I see there's an appetite for the Nostalgia and I'm like, how do I go about entering back into this in a very in a very cool way, you know without having a step without having to step it all the mud. John without having to step in all the mud. Everyone else is stepping in. You know, I want to I want to avoid that much turns. It's quicksand. Yeah, man, I hear you. I was just telling telling the team here when before we came on there they were you know, wondering what you might want to talk about and I was like look, you know, John doesn't want to weigh in and I kind of read to them to tell you know, the DM it was basically the same thing. You just said look I don't want to get in the you know, booking decisions now and who's being used right or wrong like let's just focus on the Nostalgia in the good memories and I love that John. I love that. Yeah, you know what? It was kind of crazy yesterday. I mean Vince Russo and I had another conversation yesterday. Yeah. I know how you know, I know I know, you know, the past is the past for first and foremost, but I mean, he just kind of said, you know what just for nothing bro. I just want to let you know that what you have and what you bring to the table in today's environment is unlike Anybody else has out there you have more history. Inside of you. Yes, then just about anybody alive and alright, that's because I'm freaking old. I mean just 62 I'm going to be 60 toes. So I but I was watching wrestling since I was five years old and and and I kept everything related to wrestling that I've ever had. I mean from like Freddie blassie fangled days to you know to the 90s 1996 when I left the business. Hey, That again jumbo. So what kind of old-school murder? Yeah, like because in the picture you posted of Sean everyone was like look at all those LG ends in the background. Yeah. No, I don't have any of that stuff. Does that stuff? I sold my conventions that was a way for me to monetize, you know, you know that time no I'm talking about the content the videos the film's the photographs that the actual matches. I really promoted some very unique matches around the world from Singapore to South America. Yeah, you know booking booking a show. Oh like featured in The Main Event psychosis and Sabu against Rey Mysterio jr. And Conan and Caracas. I mean that's a match has talked about to the state and no one's ever seen. So I have it. You know, there's a show I did but in conjunction with a Triple-A in ECW in Chicago, that was Terry Funk and turning on perro Aguayo and we caused a riot. I mean no one's ever seen this stuff. So having interest here is plenty of stuff. I have that I think People would really dig saying yeah. Yeah, you need to work something out with high spots Network or get yourself a pivot chair and start posting this and make some money off of that. Yeah. I have no clue in where to start guy. I mean, this is just kind of like the last three weeks has been an eye opener for me and I really don't know where to start. I really I really don't well, I think if I think you've really kind of already started in the right place John honestly, man. Yeah. Yeah building a little bit of a fan base. And the opportunity like my nephew when you heard we you doing Xbox podcast on solely was like Predator so cool. Yeah, and you know why I'm doing this because of him. I mean, he just graduated college the brilliant kid. He loves the business. I want to keep him away from the bad stuff of the business. But if he wants to help me, I mean with a podcaster getting a website started or even you know, II think there's a book in it as well for sure, you know, maybe Can be The Ghostwriter for me but he wants to be in the business. I want to find a way to get him started in his career. So maybe this is a way to do that and and for me to kind of tell my history, but him to get started in a career something. Hey John men looking at the pictures of you now, man, you look great. You look up holy the best I've ever seen like, you know, you look fantastic. I couldn't even move and you know, I'm down to about 270. I mean, I'm still heavy but you know, but I feel great. I mean what I left the business that means the stress just kind of lifted from me and it was such a dark time in my life and the things that I've done after wrestling have been you know, really cool. I've been in the music business in Nashville for 20 years, you know, I discovered, you know, you know, one of the major country stars in the business. They Kelsea ballerini very cool. I mean I work for the record company. I was the vice president there and I found her and brought her and got her signed. Yeah, Kelsey's big star today. And and what I do right now in Nashville as I do artist development, I work with artists that are that are emerging and I raise money for them through their fan bases through a crowdfunding platform, which I developed with a business partner and then we opened doors to this music industry for them. And so I mean that's kind of giving back in a lot of ways and and and that's what I've been doing in the last 20 years. I've been in Nashville working in the record business working in promotions helping artists out marketing artists and I found my Niche man. I love country music when I left wrestling and I started as a radio salesperson on Long Island. What's in New York City and they can hire to open up an office for TV network here in Never look back. I stayed here. I love it here. Nice man. John like to me one of the main reasons besides just you know shine and some light on you for all the people like that tune into the show was for me to just have you come on so I could tell you how grateful I am to you and how much I appreciate you know that weekend. Like I said, it was only one weekend. I was around you and it was huge for me and I'll never forget that John and I really can. Can't wait to see you man down the road somewhere. I look forward to that and I think our paths will cross again. I'm almost positive of that and John Let's to let's give everyone, you know, all your like Social Media stuff. So yeah, basically I just did this three weeks ago and I was able to get my name is at John arresting its Twitter. I mean at John ar e zi Twitter and I started an Instagram account a few days ago. So I mean, that's where you can find me. There's no website up but I'm posting every day and putting some really cool shots up every day. And I all I got to do is dip my hand into a into a into a bin of photos and I come up with gold. Hey, so I'm like so Jonathan, here's the thing somebody somebody listening or something or somebody we know I can definitely get you going in the right direction as far as websites how to hit like what to do with with all the with the treasure chest of stuff that you have and getting it out there and and And doing it in the smartest way, man. So if somebody ahhhhh we have definitely have connections for that and you know, so a lot of people and and I'm sure a lot of people would be dying to help you with it John and I mean, I'm like I said, I appreciate I appreciate the opportunity to come here. And like I said, I'm going to just kind of do it smart. I think I wasn't the best businessman back in the 90s. I really promoted like a fan because I was a fan and I'm still a fan. That's how I promoted it. And I look at the dollars as much as pleasing the the listeners that I was responsible for serving back in the day when I had pro wrestling Spotlight. And and now I just want to do things in a little bit of smarter way if I can then if there is a market for this stuff I want to do it the right way and always and always over deliver to anyone that's going to be associated with anything that I do. That's right. I always give them always give them more than they expected. Yes. Yep. That's a Pat Patterson. That's a Pat Patterson. Gossipy, we'd always like do a little something then to make the people feel like they got something extra. But yeah, well, that's what keeps them coming back. Yep, John. Thank you so much, man. I'm so grateful for everything and I'm grateful for your time today man. Thank you so much. Shawn res everyone. Yeah. Thank you. Before we continue. Here's a question. How did you sleep last night? How did you lady sleep last night? Okay. Yeah. Well, did you spend the night tossing and turning? Yeah. Sleep is important the quality of your sleep affects the quality of your daily life thousand percent. If you're struggling to get a good night sleep you've got to try purple mattress purple mattresses will feel different than anything you've ever experienced because it uses a brand new material developed by an actual rocket scientist an actual rocket scientist. Wow. 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He's opening the Jacobs Pritchard Wrestling Academy the residence of Knox. On his helmet Tennessee call him mayor Glen Jacobs, but you all know him as WWE Superstar Kane, mr. Mayor. Thank you for coming on man. I'm honored to have you done. Thank you so much. Appreciate it, man. Hey Clint. Hey, mr. Mayor. Is it okay if I call you Glenn? I always ask people that said known for a long time. Do you remember the first time you and I'm at? Man, I don't know what to tell you about actually, so okay. It doesn't refresh my memory. I remember watching you on TV. Don't feel bad. It was it dabs Business Park and Tampa, Florida and you were you were at malenko's and yeah that that's what I thought. Yeah. Yeah. I just remember like I just I looked at you and I'm like, oh my God. This guy's going to be a big deal at some point and you know you are. Thanks, man. Yeah, that's you know, that's something we have in common is we both went through the great malenko's Professional Wrestling Academy. That was it was a great experience for me Morris. Malenko Larry Simon who's Dean? Malenko's dad generally goes dad. Just a great guy. You know when I moved down there actually lived with him for like six months. Let me just open this house up and he's just wonderful people. Wonderful people he lived, you know, he lived this is kind of getting a little inside baseball that place he lived at used to be masami's house. Do you know that? No, I didn't actually yeah and Masami we were just talking about Masami earlier because like anyways Masami was this the son-in-law of Karl gotch and he was the referee of UWF in Japan the the submission style promotion over there and it broke off and Glenn you like a lot of Don't realize this about you, but you were trained in submission wrestling and actually went and worked in Japan and pro-wrestling fujiwara takumi right? Sure did that was the neat thing about malenko's is that you had a dean and Larry and some other folks that taught professional wrestling and then you had Karl gotch lives at Tampines good friends with Larry Sullivan. So there was a strong submission. Sundowners to and that's that's what Jody did Joe malenko and I remember being in the ring with Joe and you know Joe's about 200 pounds about 300,000. He just tossed me around like I'm up on a throwing dummy. Yeah, you know fact we got to the point where I learned I learned how to take like, you know good wrestling takedown because I would do is he would throw me I would just go with it. Hey Shamrock down there at the time now I was there and it would have 92 or 1993. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I was there gosh, I can't remember. I can't remember who all was there when when I was there but I said it was it was really good time. He sowed some when when when you left Tampa. Did you go from there? Right right to Knoxville now, I went to Puerto Rico. Actually, I went work for Carlos for about nine months. And I also did intermittently I was going in Japan before that, you know. Let's go to Japan like oh gosh once a month and then I think I went back home for a little while back to st. Louis. Yeah, and you know just worked a little bit with some Independence there and then went back down to Tampa and then ended up going working for Carlos for about nine months. Then I end up going to work for Autobahn in Germany just a month then right after that when I went to work for cornet in Knoxville, they so how did that how did that happen like that? Cornet thing was that because they'd seen you and you know in Puerto Rico or it was Dutch mantell. Yeah, that's his been one of those people that I really owe a lot to prove and I met at an independent show some place man and Illinois, Indiana and he took my name and number and all that and then he got the book in Puerto Rico. Yeah, and that's his tremendous. I mean he really sees a to you. This is psychology of yeah territory and I lived with Dodge and said he helped me out a lot and towards the end of my run there. He got me hooked up with cornet and basically got me a job in Smoke him out. Yeah, and I remember like for people that aren't familiar with Smoky Mountain you had this character it was it was some it had kind of a Jason look to it, but it was all day Unabomber Yuna bomb. Yeah. Yeah the name was you know Bonkers cornet. Just thought that was a cool name. Well, you know, and and basically it was it was it was Someone look like Lord humongous little bit from from Memphis. It had a hockey mask like you're saying like sort of Jason look, but then I would take the mask off to wrestle and I talked I talk a little bit. I had a house. That was my attacking partner cell did most of the talking but every once in a while, I'd say something and that was tremendous experience and I got to work with hurricane Robert working for more than Robert Gibbs. Yeah girl Express and Tracy smothers and Tony Anthony and ran off. I'm showing is all these just really really cornet had some of the best talent, you know going and I got to get out there and and be part of all that so that was really tremendous learning experience. Yeah, man, there was like Sullivan was there I see like even like Paul Orndorff came through right like yeah. Yeah, they weren't there when I was there. But even when I was there man Sean came down so Michael came down to the shop Undertaker did a couple shots, but he lands. Always there. Oh gosh who all else named just you know, Barn came over and worked a little bit not when I was there, but I know he did some shots alawlor did some hey how about this guy? A lot of people don't know this is but he was really good and and he and I he and I actually live together at Phyllis Lee's house in our startup. Malenko's Bobby Blaze. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Bobby was Bobby trivia was the last smoking. Mountain wrestling champion, was it hard? Go ahead. Was it hard to change your style because you're talking about wrestling in Mexico Smoky Mountain Japan. Those are all very different styles of wrestling especially for well they are but I was Puerto Rico not matter because only you know, that that would have been a big adjustment not Japan was completely different in Japan with mission style wrestling. So it was completely different I think part of the and at Gilbert told me this that the key to being successful was the ability, you know to modify and be able to do anything from you know, like very serious and Technical wrestling to the comedy stuff. Yeah, you know that that was the great thing about, you know, we all talk about the territories and how they're all gone away now and you know, I think that's one of the things that's really for people that are coming up into the business nowadays is you Don't get like that huge variety used to get several different style. Every territory had a different style than the others. You know now it's just the nature of the thing you are exposed to that on an IMF and I basis like you were before. Yeah, like I know like Memphis and and Puerto Rico had similar Styles like in that like you would go out there and walk and talk. A lot more right like it wasn't like, okay, for instance. Like if you were working in Memphis and you were on the Nashville show like the heels would dress on the other side of the building like you couldn't even talk to him unless you use that gift a walkie-talkie or something, you know, so yeah the first show I ever did for Lawler, you know, that that's how it was who's like in Canada Missouri and I've never even met law or anything like that and they just booked me on the show and the thing was though. I just started I just broke in And Frank Morel who's the referee in a comes over to me? And he's like, well, this is what Jerry wants to do and I didn't speak professional wrestling. I didn't even know what he was talking about crying. It's like, okay, but yeah and Memphis and Puerto Rico were both, you know a lot more brawling and that kind of stuff. Like I said, you know, you would he wouldn't even get that they were different locker rooms and the whole deal so, you know, he had other plans. Is that were less so and probably more than out, you know, probably prime or technically base. Yeah. Hey glad when you went to when you came up and he started doing the Isaac yankem thing for for a minute like we used to we still do it Smoky Mountain at the same time. No. No, I I signed with WWE. About April of 1990. Yeah, but I was put on a different developmental contract a version of it back then basically that was just the time the out so I couldn't go to like WCW sure, you know, then then I came up August 95 but I left Smoky Mountain wrestling a week or two before that night. But I all right now the vignettes for the Isaac yankem deal, you know, I was doing those I'll still work the same looking at home. Hey, so do you like what are how do you feel about? That like because you know, they got people going, you know, the whole the whole idea of the you know, just just just don't the death of wrestling dentist thing. Like, you know came up at a time where really the WWE was shifting philosophy and we were going from a purely PG product and you know getting into much more edgy and the Attitude Era was still a couple years away, but you know, we're still Still had I was one of the last of kind of over-the-top characters. You have like me and then afterwards you had TJ Hopper dukedom, you know, just that sort of thing and I caught the end of it and I just frankly I thought I never got into the character. I always make the pain that I couldn't sink my teeth into it. It was it wasn't me. And I couldn't make it work plus. I mean, I was still pretty green at that point. I was still trying to figure out my way around through this whole thing and you know here I wasn't WWE and I think think a lot of people end up in the situation. I mean, I'm in the ring with these guys that I've watched on TV. Yeah. Oh gosh, what am I supposed to do? And you can't have that attitude and we have to have the attitude of I belong here and I didn't have it at that point. It was not certainly not my favorite character, but now they've made Now they've made a wrestling figure out of it. So I have to like it and you know, they could they remind me of that now, but that's okay. Hey, I think it's good to embrace the things that we did that maybe we look back on and chuckle about or you know, you know that I mean it wasn't ideal but we do the best we can with it, which is exactly what you did. Yeah, and the thing was if they're never there hadn't been Isaac yankem there never been a cane. But yeah, so it's just all part of it and you know, I have some people think The greatest thing ever to you know, so it is just a matter of accepting it and just saying yeah for me it's you know, I'm just you know, I'm I always preferred like the Road Warriors my favorite tag team and he to you know, I heard that the rough and tough stuff as compared to the more entertaining stuff as well. So it was probably a personal preference and on my part. So hey, man, and I got it. I just got it gloss over this at least I know it wasn't. Ideal either but the fake diesel thing man. Yeah, I actually like that more. Yeah, I thought I was going like it was honestly like if they were going to find anyone at all to do that like that would have been you. Yeah. And again it was one of those deals that the storyline really just didn't evolve like yeah, it had been originally conceived and that happens. You know it sure I'm times. Of course, you know, the I will get mad because I was told this was going to happen and it's organic product right and things just happen and they evolve and it just didn't you know, it just didn't work the way because you know, conceptually it sounded pretty cool. Yeah, they just didn't, you know take off that way and of course, you know, I don't think the audience really ever got behind it. But again for me it got me more experience because I was much more elegant. I was determined to make that succeed and whereas if the Isaac yankem character a lot of you know, a lot of fact that it Didn't you know succeed like I would have wanted it to was due to me, you know with with the fake diesel character was just the fact that you know, it was probably just never meant to be right but I felt that I had done my part to make it successful. I could have made it for sure. Absolutely and you know what? I'm not sure if you're familiar with this but you know, Kevin's got love that whole thing because they got a huge raise because of it, you know about that. No, I didn't get any of it. No, it'll be nice. Well, when when when when WCW offices hurt her twin that Diesel and razor we're going to be on on Raw. They thought that Kevin and Scott said f it and just decided to go back there and at the car and so they just said how much money do you want? Here's half a million dollars more however much ridiculous raise. It was like that's a true. Toward it. And we wonder why WCW and out of here. We talked about being the fake diesel. Luke Gallows was the fake Kane. How close was he to becoming the third brother of Destruction? Not very good. So that was another thing that you know, it sounded really good conceptually and just didn't work and you know Luke of course has tremendous excellent performer. And yeah, just tremendous performer and is one of the things that look man because I was really hoping that that would have worked for him. I mean there was going to be it wasn't like it's gonna be a long term deal. Anyway, you know, it's just a storyline driven character, you know, but nevertheless, you know, it would have been nice if that it had turned out a little bit better, but it didn't be the outfit and the wig just didn't cut it. Can you talk about like because that wasn't there yet, but I saw that I saw the debut of Cain and that cage. I can't remember what pay-per-view it was Helena sell. Yeah exactly in your how it was an in your house. Okay, but I just remember the yeah, I was like, yeah, I just and and you know, I'm just wondering like when they run that by you okay, we want you to do this this character like I mean, it had to be like just even running that by you like, yeah. I'd have known this is the one right. Absolutely. Yeah, you know because you can have a chance to work right away with the Undertaker and you know that he's going to make it successful as much as he possibly can. You know, the story behind it from what I understand is initially the cane character is supposed to be a Hotshot it and basically Mark needed an opponent and didn't have one for the pay-per-view. So, you know, they came up with this idea. quick and then Vince liked it so much that he decided you know, this was it was a great character and he didn't want to just you know, do a one shot deal and you can see that I mean in a pallbearer was talking about Kane for months before yeah, I wish all my debut and I think if any character ever had the table set for them to be successful it was paying, you know, and then just everything and the one along with that I was yeah, I was really pumped because had a couple characters that hadn't worked as well as I would have wanted them to and then they have the opportunity to do this, you know, and then your first night out you get to drop the Undertaker which never happened back then, you know, I mean like never no one ever just like dropped take her like that. So, you know, this was one of those deals. Like if this doesn't work, I really I really do need to consider a career change, but thankfully it did but see Clinton, you know, the thing is the execution was about as perfect as you can get that. I mean you nailed that character Glenn and I'm just wondering how how long it took you to, you know to get in the groove and and work all those things out, you know, you know, I mean like to wear like I mean It was yeah, it was just perfect. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah that one I felt very comfortable from the start. I mean because I'd worked with tiger before and of course, you know part of it especially at the start was mimicking some of the things that he did and there was really there was like a template because of taker, you know, that that I could follow and then by this point to I thin around long enough, I mean I've been in WWE for two years. You know, I've been around long enough that I knew what it took to be successful. And I knew that you know, I couldn't just always listen everybody else say okay. Yeah, it's whatever you want to do out there. You know, I had to had to you know, get myself over and I owed it to everybody in this case because someone should have been invested into became character. So really, I mean I felt comfortable from the beginning and you know, there wasn't there certainly wasn't the learning curve involved if there was with the other characters. Yeah did take her. Oh ever give you any sort of advice. Oh, yeah, give me lots of advice. Especially after I ask you something up and I love you called advice, but it was a shocking to everyone from the very beginning of my running before actually about running W. In fact, our first match was in Smoky Mountain wrestling and he had come down to Knoxville and it was him and me without snow in my corner. You know, I think that the mark always saw, you know, someone that he could go out and make money with and wanted me to be successful and that's just from the big very beginning and may not you know. Help me with a lot of just a lot of things. Yeah, and even before the cane character came along. Like I said help me navigate. Did you know Sean it can be a it can be a political world? Oh, yeah. Yeah tell me about it. I'll be navigate through a lot of that. Yeah. Yeah, cuz cuz mine like I honestly your I've never met a more like in Industry. I can more likable guy and I'm more pleasant guy to be around in the locker room at like, you know, and I could sometimes Like in the early days get get misconstrued for you know for other things. Yeah, Larry Simon used to say, you know, don't let people don't let people confuse kindness of weakness. Yeah, and that's the thing is yeah, you know, it's little different nowadays, but in that locker room, yeah, you know, there was much more of folks who weren't necessarily concerned. The overall well-being of the company is you know as themselves. Yeah, and yeah, it could be a hard place to really, you know to really get along and he did but it is what it is what it is at this point to and you know, a lot of those guys are my friends too. So when you first started getting that huge pushes as Cain like did you run into any like, you know, like guys to had to put you over any like animosity like hey, what the hell? Yeah, yeah and again if that's leak is well, okay, let me prep. Yes I did but there was a guy called The Undertaker. Yeah, it was and you know, the single has the people will you know folks sometimes give you a hard time. We only had it for day but here's the thing. this was Very important time because you know, Austin was taking off. Yep, you know, he was well into his climb, you know, the Attitude Era was like really it's just there was all this stuff rumbling and you know winning the World Championship was awesome. But that was in Pittsburgh at King of the Ring happened the same night that make a marriage, you know. Yeah what through the off the case and went through the cage. So I always get nickel hard time that my parents. Members Nick that night. Yeah, but nevertheless the next night in Cleveland. Oh man. I'll never forget. This is the most electric environment I've ever been in. I mean it was it was completely sold out and you know, all anybody wanted to see was Austin Yeah, Austin get the championship back and I really feel that you know for what my little part in was that that in all that that was really a springboard and you know, really helped Elevate the entire Duct yeah, in fact up until that point. That was the highest rated segment of raw that we've had and you know, that's when things really start shop if it wasn't me, of course, it was awesome and you know all that but nevertheless, you know play a part in that was a really big deal. No. Yeah. It's a huge deal man. Yeah, I'ma tell you like hey Glenn I was you know, I tell people this all the time whenever your name comes up in And people always like they'll associate me with the click and you know DDX guys are you know hunter or the wolf Pack's gotten Kev, but like honestly, my favorite partner I ever was was you it was just it was just the just such a unique Dynamic like, you know, it was the opposite of your average book end tag team, you know? Yeah and just the whole way it started, you know from the Wrestlemania thing everything. Yeah, it was it was great. It helped me out tremendously because you know up until that point Kane has just been like an emotionless monster. Yeah, and what what that did for me our tag team was it really helped round out my character because you know, it showed that, you know, Kane has feelings and all that stuff, which I've never had before right and you know humanized humanized me enough. You know, the people that I think could relate much better. Remember we did remember we did this deal where we were teasing a breakup. Yeah, and it was a Kemper arena there in Kansas City and you got mad and walked out of the Arena. Yeah, and then they shot another pre-tape, you know, and they had they had like a close of my eye and has a pure coming out, you know. Yeah. It was like the key Holly, right? Yeah, who would have thought but all that stuff it really helped, you know. So it really helped my character in my career and me to Manuel me too, and you know and all the stuff we got to do man. It was it was a blast. Yeah, and you know the like you said a lot of times you have Jack teams that are bookends but they're having something that contrasted so much and was so unique, you know, and we can have great match with anybody because you know, just could we had gosh who I live in the you know, the New Age Outlaws DLo and Mark Henry and you know just everybody we had a match would we had a match with DLo and Mark Henry and unfortunately, it was it was on the same show that own passed away. So it gets overlooked, you know, but it was so damn good glass. Oh my God, and and I just wanted to talk about like just the really cool way. Like we went into are starting our tag team we would have these tags. Matches and then just out of nowhere like at the end like Glenwood just wig out and grab me and chokeslamming and there and then so like when we won the tag titles after WrestleMania, you know at the end, you know, I blow my comeback Glenn comes in. He makes his huge comeback. People are going apeshit. I brung oh Buster. I think it was just showing her somebody and then when I stagger out Glenn grabs me by the throat again, and people think he's going to choke slam me and he picks me up. Over 70 throws me. I know and for the 1 2 3 and the place goes nuts Steve Austin said that was one of the greatest feel good like finishes you've ever seen at the time. Yep. Yep. I remember another one man where we were working against Taker and Big Show - oh, yeah big deal some Hello, and we did you can you hear me? Yeah, okay. So we did a deal where takers trying to recruit me back. Right and he forget how it happened. But basically he took he chokeslam Duty messed you up. Yep, and I didn't see that but you know, I'm facing the Titantron take her standing in front of me and you know, he's trying to convince me to come back with him. Meanwhile, the Titans are on the show the replay of you. Blasted by him. Yeah, and then I you know, I I like Steam for a second then I grabbed in a choke slam in the place went just absolutely amazing. Yeah, that was that was that was that was way cool. It's a great moment and and and glad you know, when when I actually turned heel on you like that was some pretty cool stuff too. I think like it went, you know, like it drug out too long at the end like, you know, because I really loved working with you. Like I want to do like anyways, we I really love working with you as a heel. It was very challenging for a guy my size like to work with not just a guy your size but a guy with your gimmick and I thought we did it really well, right and remember dust on this way back in my days in Puerto Rico. You know is you have to when you have a character like I have and the guy my size you may have to figure out creative ways to stop you. So horrible. Yeah, and then to the other thing is you don't get sympathy. Like normally we think you know guys get beat up and people, you know feel bad for him with me. It's just like why didn't they just get up and feed everybody, you know, so he could be difficult and I'll but of course you always had some great. Ideas, and yes, I remember that you definitely want to like a big huge match to put an exclamation point on the whole deal. Yeah never could really get it worked out like some exploding like fire exploding bomb type of thing right and in like, yeah, just never never yeah came to fruition. But in my mind like I had this image in like, you know you that would have been your like burial of me. But anyways never happened little bummed out. He talks about you guys having a singles match at WrestleMania because I know you guys had one a knowing, you know, but it was so close. Was there any talks about a singles match between you guys well, that was like the thing that was it? Yeah, and it turned into a tag match and you know, it was kind of more of an afterthought. But yeah, and I think I broke my hand too so I couldn't really You know do a whole lot so that didn't help matters. But yeah, we're supposed to have like the big big blow off as a WrestleMania ends the set of just you know, we just never could get it worked out but people always and even like after that like when I was doing the 2002 NWO stuff whenever you would get your hands on me, the people would go nuts even like later on down the road. So but I remember like Glenn and I got to bring this up man because I felt like I felt so bad when I finally realized this was the deal. I apparently like I sent you to the hospital three nights in a row to get stitched up and you never told me I had to find out from Paul Bearer. Do you remember that? Yeah, it was still is it was actually it was it wasn't three nights in a row. It was once two consecutive weeks, but it was also just stuff that happened. It wasn't like you've done anything on purpose or anything like that. In fact one of them I did mine. Off you go Barney. I'll never forget you were here apologize and I'm like dude. Don't worry about it. You know, it's just it happens. I'm not I'm not hurt or anything. Well you remember the one do you remember the one where I slammed the cage door on your head and you hit and hit a gusher and I mean like in and it and that's when it dawned on me how hot you run at all times? Because when the blood hit your suit it immediately dried caked up and started smoking and steaming. Oh my God, and that was my fault. I didn't protect myself as well as I should have on that. But yeah, I will never forget that either. That was visually that was horrifying but I remember Mick Nick actually was there that night and yeah, I've had a really bad cut. My scalp and never Mick walking into the locker room and remember Francois Francois petite. Look at you. Yeah, Francois was looking at it and make walks in and it's like, oh my God blend and as soon as mix said that I'm like, oh no, I'm done. Like, it's Mick Foley's, you know, Mick Foley saying, oh my God about an injury forget about it, right? Yeah. So but luckily we had an ugly it wasn't you know, it wasn't that bad, but it was a it was a nice Cut. Hey glad so when When we like okay going talking about that 2002 NWO stuff. You've you tore your bicep then and and we did this thing in the back where I like we attacked you and like I took your mask off you remember that? Yes, where are you now what you were like shrugging your something with like 405 which isn't really that a lot that much weight for you wasn't it? I was doing no, I'm worn that like 595. Okay, I know but even that real You like 595 like shrugging like IBI picture you doing that like it's a weird thing where all the sudden, you know blow up by some. Yeah. Yeah. Now what had happened was I had a I had an underhand grip on that side. And I think I'd actually I remember, you know, someone had me in like an armbar something. I remember tweaking it a little bit like a month before that and it was just one of those, you know, just one of those things And I've been really fortunate in my career. I've only had a handful of injuries and I had that one but that doubt happened at the gym and just happened, you know in the ring. Yeah, but yeah, man, I had to go down to dr. Andrews, of course and I had to get it fixed. There was it was you know in an area on my arm that your arm can't function I couldn't turn my wrist, you know, but again, I mean I've been I've been so Rich and I had that I broke my hand, you know, and that's really been about it. As far as like injuries that put me out for any period of time what we seek is I mean, it's I mean you it's not like you're pretty ads out and big man the way you worked. So like what do you think? What do you think the reasoning for you being fairly injury-free? Like keep it flexible or what? Yeah that has something to do with also mean, you know, because I am a big dude, you know, it's like, you know some other guys that just have to go out there every night and you know, take all these crazy bumps on never had to do that. I mean look at Mick now and you know, you know night after night make would go out and do some towns on the concrete and all that and you know, his body's taken a toll. Yeah because of that and I just I was very fortunate. Have to do that, you know, and then also, I mean I try to stay in this good of shape as I could which can be challenging on the road. But nevertheless I'd always get to the gym and just try to take care of myself. And I think that that has a lot to do with it as well. Are you you look as good now. I got biggest you some better than at some point earlier in your career. Yeah. Yeah it I still I still work out. Stay in shape and that's whatever he does is like, you know, if you found the Fountain of Youth I was like, I don't know Max. I certainly don't feel like I did when I was 30. Well your current job is shall we say far less hazardous than your than your previous gig? Of course in some point now in some ways. Yeah. Have you had any trouble convincing the people of the town or anyone that you work with that someone who we've seen bleeding from the head from a cage in a ring can be an effective. mayor no, because the thing is, I think that we reach the you know, the point that folks understand what you know, what we do is entertainment and we're really actors and of course, you know for years and years and years, you know that that within our business that was completely off-limits, you know, and Vince realized that you know, we can do a lot more if we're you know, Just acknowledge that what we do is entertainment and that there are people behind the actors behind the characters and you know, frankly just like with so many other things, you know, everybody's like that's crazy to think that way but he was right knee in and you can just see that you know in really the you know, the WWE Superstars and performers their ability to especially nowadays in the day, you know and social social media. Yes, it's your bill. The to do things outside of WWI outside of wrestling that you wouldn't have been able to do in the old days. So, you know, you're going to have people say whatever and I find that those folks are completely ignorant about that but they're talking about yeah, you know, this is been a great business for me I have been able Because of my time in WWE I've been able to touch so many people around the world touch their lives in a positive manner and that's the most rewarding thing. Absolutely when someone come someone comes up and tells you that, you know, thank you for giving them years of enjoyment and entertainment. You can't put a price tag on that, you know, so I think you know, I think that nowadays all that stuff is real. You know, we always going to have people would say whatever and who cares sure, you know, most people are most people are cool and accepting and realize that and you know, we're just people, you know, trying to make a living he's owed. So Glenn was there a situation locally that you were frustrated with that made you decide you wanted to run for mayor not always been interested in how government I never really wanted to run for office, you know, but in the end, it's just, you know thinking maybe I could hopefully I can have a positive impact on on things but there wasn't like a single trigger in my for me. That was like how yeah, I need to do this. It was more just I think would be a good thing it did you did you have did you experience any you know, you know dirty tricks, you know, as far as like the politicians that you were going against not so much we had really Clean Campaign has really proud of it, but not only on my side but also my opponents, you know there. They ran a Clean Campaign, you know, and I think nowadays two people are tired of the dirty balls man, you know, I know I am that really turns folks off. And in fact, you know, one of my opponents, he's on County Commission great guy, you know, we and it's funny because during the campaign, you know, we would argue about stuff and now you know, we see eye to eye on a lot of things and he does a great job. So, you know, I think really with the politics Again, people just getting sick and tired of the constant negative campaign is like well, okay. So your opponent's terrible. What about you? You know, that's what I always say, you know, it's you know, the yeah campaign model for a lot of candidates should just be you know, I'm not as bad as the other guy right instead of you know, why should you vote for me? It's just always why should you not vote for the other person and I think people are tired of it. Well, he's mayor just the first stop in your political career. Are you going to run for governor or I have I have no idea. I'm just trying to survive and do a good job. And you know, we'll see I really don't know, you know, I haven't I haven't thought that far and I think really you do the service to folks when you think like that shouldn't you know, I have a problem when people say higher office or you know, whatever because they're all important. Yeah, and you know, you need to treat it like that. But when people get in just thinking oh gosh, you know, I'm going to run for this and I'm This idea that that's not what the whole thing is about. The whole thing is about conserving your constituents. Yeah. Yeah. Hey and and your constituent I mean Knoxville, Tennessee is a pretty diver tway more diverse than somebody might think when they hear tennis it is. Yeah. It is man. We in the county there's 450,000 people and we have the County's budget is 830 million dollars and And we have everything here from downtown. We have a section downtown called Market Square, which is one of the hippest place in the country, there's restaurants and you know theaters and just everything you possibly imagine. I live out in a section at the county which is in the country, you know, we have everything in between, you know, when we look at ethnic diversity as well, you know, I have you know friends here that you know, you wouldn't think that there would be a Asian population here, but you know I friends are Vietnamese Japanese from from Laos, you know, all that all that sort of thing, you know Indian folks everything. So yeah, it is a very diverse Community. Hey, hey real like let's talk about the wrestling school bond. Yeah that Community is about to get a brand-new Wrestling Academy, right? Yeah. Yeah. It is really happy about this. You know, dr. Tom Prichard. Yeah, we use online. It was on a couple Year, it was on a couple weeks ago right bottom and yep Tom was here in Knoxville and Tom's one of the best trainers in the world. Absolutely uses WWE for quite a while as the head trainer at Developmental Center and you know has trained people like Kurt Angle and the rock and all these other folks and from you know, looking at this as a business person. I was thinking It's just a shame that you know, Tom is not training because yes, we good at it and he's really demand, you know, he goes all over the world doing seminars in that sort of stuff. So really I was like, you know just for me in as a business person look at the whole thing and thinking okay, you know, what's the competition and of course, you know Lance Storm has great school up in Calgary and Booker has a great setup down and in Houston, you know, and of course Nothing compared to the Forum Performance Center in Orlando, you know, but really I think you have to look at people ask me. How do I get into the WWE got to go to Performance Center at some point, you know, the question is how do you get ready to go to Performance Center, you know and that's the first stop for a lot of people and I thought that was a niche that that we could fill and geographically, you know, it's kind of lacking in our in our area. So I just thought I'd the you know, I thought it'd be something. That would would take off. Has anyone at WWE. Have they been supportive of you or did anyone encourage you when this was just an idea? Oh, yeah, I mean, you know, I ran it by them and you know, the thing about WWE is you know, you hear a lot of negative stuff and I can tell you the negative stuff is often a result of disgruntled people who haven't gotten their way, you know just running that's true because most of the time when I've come up and said hey I need Put something they'll bend over backwards to help me with it. And you know, this is has been the same and you know, especially Triple H understands that you know, they need a pipeline and they need talent coming in and Paul Paul gets that you know, I mean, he was the brains behind the performance center, which is just an unbelievable facility, you know, and I mean, he goes all around the world helping other others in some cases other promotions. You know groom their talent. So I think that any time that he sees the opportunity, you know to get to grow that talent pool of people if they could pull from are going to be supportive of it. Well, one of the things that we were talking about earlier and I kind of wanted to ask you was we were talking about your different phases in the company and different things that you went through but one of the things I want to know is what was your favorite evolution of Cain now them first one. First one by far because it was new it is different as exciting for me personally and you know that would that was the time to man. I mean that was when everything was you know was just going and you know forget about being hostile and wrestling they're the hottest thing in entertainment. Absolutely. No, I mean, yeah, it was it was much bigger than just professional wrestling. We were the hottest thing in the entertainment world, you know when you can go around for two years or however long it was and and sell every place out. Jet sell out every single. Yeah, that's not paper. These legit everywhere. We went you know and every how show yeah. Yeah. It was just amazing and from a character standpoint to you know, that that's you know, that that was just the best time because you know how it goes as you evolve through your career. It's just like just like everything. I mean like in Happy Days they call Jumping the Shark Tank, right Jumping the Shark. Yeah, you know, yeah the original concept of the characters because it's always does because you always have to be something new and to me that was just you know, that that was just the best time because you had you know had this character everybody knew what it was all about. And you know, everything was fresh and good. You know, what something I want to add to this is that man. No one has a you spoke so much without ever speaking a word the way you did your the way you did everything man like and I just want to I just want Acknowledge that that I mean it was so well done Manuel. Thank you very much. Yeah, I'm going to tell you I'm a tell you guys where I got the head tilt because I remember Bruce picture telling me that you know, I would see that tilt my head from side to side number Bruce Prichard telling me that I had told people more about what was going on than if I had been able to talk absolutely and I got that from a st. Bernard named Annie. Yeah, because when she was curious you until her head one way when she was hungry. She would tilt her head the other way. That's where the whole thing came from the actually, you know people, you know, they think there's this deep story behind. It was like now this watching my dog one day and I was like, that's cool, but I gotta get going. I was just about to say man. We're coming up to end this and I just want to thank you so much Glenn. Thank you, man. Thank you for coming on John. I appreciate it. And thank you guys, and then I went I had a great time working. With you as well. And you're one of those guys that I'll tell you about about Sean. He was always more worried about me. Then he was him and remember, you know one time he was talking with Vince and we were talking about something and Sean was the guy going to bat for me, you know, and I think that says a lot about thank him and you know, it really impressed me. I used to think that I used to dip my hands in glass to tape. Them up dip them in glass to go in and go canes not doing that. That's not what Kane does. Yeah, so you looked out for me man. I appreciate that. Thank you, ma'am. So grateful to you for everything man and and Glenn Jacobs. Mayor Glen Jacobs everyone. Thank you, man. Thank you guys have an awesome rest of your day. Thank you for your time Glenn. Thanks, honey. Take care, bud Merry Christmas, my friend. All right, that was so much fun to hear you guys. Yeah, man, and and talking to ladies here and I'm saying man. Sorry bro offended. Listen Bros. Yeah just send it was so-so. just so she's getting your honor so generous with this time. Yeah. Yeah, and I did I used to get really pissed. He's not lying man. I used to go in there. I'm not no, that's not what Kane does Glenn's not doing that tonight. No. No. Yeah, he's right. I can you think of one instance like specifically. 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