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There are some new people that have recently found the podcast. I thought it was cool chit chatting with them, you know congrats. I'm not going to butcher his last name. So we're just going to say jsonp. I think it's piss Kowski or something like that. It's both we go, but he's a listener the podcast and shout out to him. He took fourth which I didn't realize till I was I think it was at the results. I heard something about it when Josh Martin was calling off all the places and he took forth but 4th 5th and 6th place where all tied with the same inches, but Jason had the biggest fish out of the three of them. So that's why he took fourth. So that was super cool. So congrats to him Jay. Yeah, buddy. So I hear what am I Regional homies? Yeah. Yeah. Okay, he's down from he's down from your neck of the woods there. Yep. Pretty soon. We'll be hitting the water together. But yeah, it was super cool. I gotta get a cool little announcement will throw out at the end of this and yeah. I think I hinted to it last podcast and the last podcast. I don't know you going to stick around and listen to us ramble for the next hour all these weird people. I mean these great listeners. Yeah, they are great listeners. It's right there family bro family. But yeah, it was it was it was interesting. So I've only fish medicine In wants and that was with you back. I think it was like last August and that was an interesting outing because it rained all day but we slam fish and we were fishing lake would be so that time around and we caught some quality fish. I remember catching 16 17 and I think my big one of the day was like 18 and a half or 18 and 3/4 or something, but the water levels were up when we were there. I think the whole chain was no wake and Yeah, and I think that made a huge difference fast forward to this past weekend. Well, you know last Sunday I had fished up there before the tournament with shout out to Allen read from Indiana and the water was super clear. We fished part of the Hara upper mod. upper part of what bisa and the southern part of Monona we covered quite a bit of water, but the water was like gin clear which kind of Plays in a your whole scenario that unfolded over the weekend or whatever. We'll get into that in a second, but You know as always did a bunch of research did some looking around and I died I decided I wanted to try Mendota and you were like, yeah, let's go. That's where you got your PB Pike right like last year the year before so yeah your two years ago. Yeah. Yeah mine was in the fall. But yeah, I got a 40 inch or out of there. Yeah. Yeah, which is Stellar that's on your Facebook page, right? Yep. Yeah buddy, but I wanted to go to a certain area. I'll just tell everyone it's up by Governors Island. And from what I saw just on Navionics there was kind of a ledge there. Right. We're kind of the Yahara dumps in I think to to the actual Lake and It was kind of interesting when we got out there. I was like all all you see is like Boulders and rocks, you know, you could see I think the deepest I could see bottom was like 15 feet at points. Yeah, and it was kind of cool just fishing that gin clear water and it just screamed small mouth. and we started working out there and I got some short strikes and it was like they were picking up the bait and they just wasn't getting a good hook set and that was on the network and you were throwing big Hefty lures looking for Pike and maybe a muskie or something and you had some follows to and you know, I just started switching colors because I knew They were they were intrigued by the bait, but they just they just want to commit into it. And I forget what the first color I threw was. I think it was Canada craw made by Z men will starring all z-man Ned Rigs and then I ended up starting to get into some fish when there's a color called new money and it's really green. It's got red flake and it was funny because after the tournament Alan Reed we were at the awards or whatever and he's like, how did you get to that color? And that's kind of interesting so That Sunday when we pre fished Monona, I was thrown a black blue flakes & Co which is kind of been like my go-to, you know for the first part of the Year here and when I switch the watermelon red flake on Monona, I started getting bass so I'm like hmm. That's interesting. Obviously. It's a color thing. So I think that's why I started with Canada craw because it's kind of green but it's got a little bit of silver in it, but it's got Flake as well and that new money was like a brighter green and it had red and silver flake in it and I caught a fish and you know at one point you were like really again it really I was like dude like don't know what to tell you. Yeah. I mean I was I was banging fish in you know, I was kind of sitting in I think it was like 14. a foot of water and casting out to the deeper side of that ledge and then just slowly dragging it back once in a while popping it up, but it seemed like the the slow drag across the top of the Rocks is what really did it and I think the biggest fish I caught up there was like 16 and a half that day, right? Yeah, something like that. Yeah. So then later that evening I met up with Brad her loss Hurley boss. I forget Sorry Brad, but Brad H. I met up with Brad H and he lives up in that area and he's like man. He's like I've been out fishing. He's like I can't Fish he's like if I don't catch a fish tonight, I'm not signing up for the tournament and I was like, well, I'll fish with you man. Like I found something today, you know, so we fished a stretch of river going into lower Mud Lake and fished around Mud Lake and we started floating right away, and it was like first 15 minutes or so Brad. Hooked into it was like an 18 inch or something 17 and three-quarter. So I was like, oh, well, there's some bigger fish here than what I found this morning and I ended up catching a 17-inch Smalley that night and a 17 inch large mouth. 17 and a half or something and I know Brad I took off early because I was just beat you know, because we got up early drove up to Madison fished our butts off all day and then I went back out you kind of hung back at camp and I know Brad was on a pretty good frog bite as well. so Thursday Checked out what bisa similar Rocky ledge type deal and a rock pile on out offshore and caught you know. Small fish and just didn't dig it. So but I did manage to catch multi-species that day. I caught a couple Pike 18 inch walleye and a 20-pound carp. And couple really short small mouth. That while I sit in my fridge good good. Enjoy it. I will it's the least I could do. Yeah, thanks. So I mean, what about those two days for you? So what was the deal break it down? Well, where do I begin? Yes, so I went out there swinging for the fences as I normally do and You know, so what the first day we were out there we were out in the DOTA right now station with you and I was fishing the same part you were just a little bit off course, you know spaced apart not side by side of course, but I was probably getting down about 20 feet that sometimes 25, but I would say 15 to 25 and I was running some inline Spinners because they were heavy enough to fall the quickest anticipate and attract at those lower depths. I was throwing like announcing Half and that'll stay down there as a rooster tail redhead and also through this other one that was it was basically white. Let's call it and I was getting a lot of follows, you know, a lot of follows and nothing we commit it would just you just see a fish coming out of the depth, you know, and it was pretty cool. You know who've been better if he would have bit it but the only closest I came was like a walleye I think on those spinners and then I would like kind of what I would like Whit way across to the Hara because that's actually where I caught my PV around roundabouts in that area, but it's spring time. There's like no vegetation. So I was searching for vegetation. Oh over there and what I did notice is that once I got over that flat as you transition from where we were to the flat. He got murky and it was darker water wasn't clear anymore. So I thought I'd have a chance, but I was working everything. I mean I even went into the yarra and was working this 6-foot hole and I couldn't get anything to bite. So then I came back when I did a little bit of trolling. I was just pedaling around with a Rattle Trap and then the best I could do is I ran into a school or rock bass and pick one of them brought up him and I thought it was pretty big fish. I mean that hook just barely fit his mouth. But I mean that was a that was a stout fish and he did not give up all the time. I was trying to hook them. He's like rap like making weird noises. I'm like, all right, dude, you're gonna be gone the second but I didn't have an inkling of like maybe we should eat this guy. Like it's like I'm sure you guys have ever wasn't me catching these the days but let him go. But yeah, so for me, I didn't get anything that day. I did get there was a pretty large follow I got but it wasn't enough to collect on I figure aided probably about eight times with fish underneath me. I don't really think I'm not any of them broke 40. I just said that point was just like I don't care just something bite the damn hook just so I can bring something to the boat. Then with the second day we went to a Visa and it's kind of the same scenario. I think I only had one bite and that was and I really wasn't convinced until I saw the plastic As I had that crabby vast Sonic shed, and I used it the next day after that. I was like, oh wait, there's bite marks on this thing. Yeah, there was like there was some gnarly teeth marks in that I was like, oh I didn't get a bite. Okay, because I got so used. Yes, but I knew for sure that pop It was just the way Pike just kind of hit stuff. And anyway, I didn't catch anything. It was just like, you know again you when you're swinging for the fences. You're definitely any comment empty more the time then you're gonna catch ya. Yeah, but and then I turn the day I went back to Mendota. Same spot same things are happening. Just some follows figure eights. Nothing. Just nothing and I started to put the pieces together a little late in the game. But I also wasn't prepared and what I did notice is that all you guys were catching Pike everywhere. And then the one common theme was clear line because everybody had a leader of like floral or or monofilament and then using smaller type baits some people even like Ned ratings and Essex but that was the ongoing thing. So again, it's springtime every now and then, you know, I know these things are hidden big stuff, but this was one of those times but I think one correlation with the Clearwater and that was the other thing like I underestimated I'll even say I was just cocky about it because I've always done well on the Chain well enough. Anyway, I mean, it's like where I enjoy myself sure enough that I did this time, but it's a lot more fun catching fish, but The the ongoing theme again because of that clear water, you know, I'm running steel leaders. I have the titanium leaders which are very thin but they're black and then I have steel leaders that are silver a little thicker. Apparently that probably had a lot to do with it. That's my opinion on that if you don't think so, like, you know, leave us some comments on this sent us some emails, but I haven't dealt with gin clear Pike, although when I My TV that day it was it was Gin clear and I was running a leader and I was running what's called number five MEPS Fire Tiger spinner with like a white plugtail and that was at the end of the day in the weeds. So that maybe has something to do with it too because when you're running off these these Ledges, there's no weeds there. I mean there's some I guess but there's not many and it's more rock so you kind of got to work the Picture rather than the vegetation but I think there's a clear correlation on what not to do in June Clearwater. And as a perfect example of that I didn't come prepared to throw anything other than what I was going to throw again swinging for the fences plus you needed stuff like when you throw the smaller stuff generally it's lighter weight anyway, so it's hard to track that stuff either way. So I mean I'm not making excuses of course, but Just you know, I thought heavy stuff Run Deep what I just want to make a point. So fishermen are so stubborn sometimes. Yeah, like I caught two or three Pike and I was like, hey man, you want some of these swimbaits? I musn't we're like no. No, it's tough work. No. Yeah, so I think it's just kind of funny. Like I just thought about that now like as you're talking about this I'm like man I offered Omni's some swimbait. So I got like three Pike. Yeah. Well, the other thing is Sue's they would have had to switch from my yeah, you know my leaders to align that I did just didn't have right. Right, right because you get any sizable Pike. It's going to have the whole damn like lure in its mouth. It's going to rub it Sawtooth great, you know right across that line like we were talking about it's just gets gonna cut it. Anyway. Well I got bit off. I think it was once. Yeah once up there and then once down, Here which we'll get into later. But you know, it was yeah. Yeah, I mean so I will then see what's to like what I picked everybody's brain at the meeting because I'm like everyone's saying mom catch a pike. I'm catching Pike and I'm like be using clear line like yeah and they're like, yeah. Okay. I was like I get it. It's it's got to be you know, these are shy line Pike, you know, it's fine. I learned I'm going to be prepared for that next time and I won't be so cocky sure, you know sure sure sure. You know, I mean, it's like I was kind of cocky about it. I was like, yeah, I'm going to catch the fish and I can you know, it's like but man. Oh man. Oh man and sucks. Well, the other thing too is I think I think it was like all three days. We had an East Wind. Bluebird Skies pretty much. Yeah, there are no clouds No, that's another you know, that's another thing about the chain that is completely true that I've had much experience of this soon as that sun comes out. They're gone. Yeah, they're all gone. Well that that kind of draws into my tournament a right cuz so I think it was Friday evening. I was talking with you because you didn't finish the tournament and I said man. I don't know what to do. Like it's either go to that river that I fished with Brad or go to that spot. I found up north. or do both but you know my gut told me go north. We had a super early launch time. It was crazy. First launch was 4:15 a.m. Lines in at 4:45 a.m. That was just like what the heck and that was the thing too was at the Captain's meeting which I was kind of already prepared for are ready because when we Up there that one day and we launched from Governors Island. There's a kayak launch. They're essentially or a gravel parking lot with a trail where you could take your kayak down and but that part didn't open until 6 a.m. So and they had brought up to at the Captain's meeting. Like there are restrictions at some ramps. Some don't open till 6:00. Some don't open till for some are open 24 hours. Make sure you do your homework because if you get caught launching from a launch that is not open yet. You will be disqualified. So the closest launch I found was probably I don't know man, like two or three miles from my spot. So that's the other thing. I guess I should should spill the beans on is a i fished out of the blue sky all weekend. So what's that Brian see that again Blue Sky baby blue sky. Yeah, so guys. Yeah. It was kind of interesting. And that's um, we could talk about in a minute. But so I paddled all the way out there, but when I showed up to the launch that morning there was like 16 of us at that launch and I think there was only like 65 people or something signed up. So you got a good chunk of the competition all launching out of the same spot that's getting bad because that means either a people know that there's fish up here. Be they're all going to your spot or see like nobody knows. Well, you know that and the fact that there were four other full-fledged tournaments going at Shane. Yes, and they pull everyone the Mendota was off-limits. Yeah. So other there was a like a Collegiate Bass Tournament a Musky tournament. A high school Bass Tournament. It was in our Collegiate 1/2 or something. Yeah, the Collegiate one was the first one I said. Oh, so I forgot the other one was yeah, there was supposed to be something like 400 boats on the Southern Lakes plus the the locals. Yeah plus yet plus n all the pleasure boaters. Yes, absolutely. So they talked about that at the meeting as well. So I think a lot of People opted to go up up that way but when we all took off there was a couple people heading that direction and you know, I think I've stated this before. I'm not a huge fan of peddling. I put my tail off and thought when I finally got to my spot I was going to have a heart attack, but that didn't happen. I'm here. I'm good, but it was funny. I know there was like two or three guys in hobie's that went to the left of me. And I think one of them was Don Thompson, and then there was like three or four kayaks that headed towards where that launched on Governors Island was the Dylan I think his last name's fuck wah or something folkway or something the kid that want it he went directly to the right because him and his dad were sitting there while they stayed at our campsite Friday night. So we got to chat and really get to know Dylan and we can get into that in a second as well. But he's like I got a feeling we're all going to the same place and I'm like, well, I'm going straight Dylan's like which way you Goin. I'm like straight. He's like, I'm like, which way are you going? He's like I'm going right. Okay. Well, I guess we're not heading to the same spot. So that works but after seeing the results, I probably should have gone right? Yeah, but it's would have it up there. Yeah, but so I get out to my spot and you know, my thought process on that was is there's got to be bigger fish out there when we got out there. We got out there late morning and ran into some good fish and I think when we ran into those fish they were just moving out deep when we finally got on them. And you know, I'm like there's got to be bigger fish earlier in the morning. They should be up on the top of that ledge feeding or right in the same spot. So I got out there and I had Mark the spots where I caught fish and I posted a picture on Instagram of the chart on my depth finder and you can see these lines. I mean, I was just going back and forth. Fourth off this the edge of this ledge and I started working on that deeper side and I was like getting nothing. I'm like, you got to be kidding me. Like, please don't let this happen and I'm like, let's move in Shallow see if they're there and sure enough like bam. I think I caught a 17 or 16 and a half or something right off the bat and I'm like, let's do this game on baby. And I got five fish probably in the first hour and a half. Yeah, I'd probably say it was like the first hour and a half of the tournament and I was leading and I'm like whole like because there was a lot of chitter-chatter. Like I don't know man. I've just been catching like 14 15 16 inch fish. Like I can't find any big ones and I mean I know from talking to Dylan he's like, yeah, I don't know like I don't know what I'm going to do. He's like I've In Big Fish, I just and then able, you know a bite. So what he was doing was bad fishing throwing a creature Pate in the beds and that's how he got his fish and he upgraded all day because I saw him I kept checking the leaderboard and you know, I saw him climbing because I always check the leaderboard after I submit a fish to make sure it went through and it's showing up on there and you know, I'm good and you know, I'm going through and like I was leading half the morning. I think I texted you and I was like dude like holy crap and you were just like keep it up man. Like keep going but going back to what you were talking about. Once that sun gets up. They like disappear everything changes and that's definitely what happened. So like I would catch a bunch of fish and then like all of a sudden nothing. I'd move out a foot or two. And I start catching fish again and I caught a bunch of fish. Like I did upgrade once I think I had like a 15 and a quarter 15 and a half and I upgraded that to a 16 was my smallest fish. So I ended up with a 17 and three-quarter a 17. It was like a 16 and a half 16 and a quarter and a 16 and which was a solid back and I just could not find another fish and I move spots. I went down to that River spot. I caught more fish but nothing over 16. Well, nothing over 14 to be exact and I ended up running into Brad down there and he's like man, he's like, I just caught my fifth fish and I think there was like an hour and a half left to go. I'm like well start upgrading dude, like I think his smallest fish was 12 inches and Thank you upgraded once or twice before he got off the water. And you know, I just kind of watch the standings. I'm like, you know is what it is. Hopefully the like this holds out for top 10 and you know, nobody's really sandbagging or anything and you know sure enough, you know finished eighth in the trail and second in the Pro. So yeah, super happy. It's okay top 10 in The trail and top three in the Pro is all I wanted, you know, just just cash a check and get some aoy points. But deadly nedley got it done and color was key color was definitely key. And that was the thing too is I could have used you tournament morning because I just like every time I caught a fish boats just got closer and closer and guess her and that one point. I don't know. The gentleman's name. I've seen him before I forget where it was, but he was fishing in a Hobie and you know, he was fishing in close and then slowly worked his way out to me and I'm sure that's because you saw me catching fish, but he was drop shot and I threw saw the rig he was thrown it was like a drop shot with like a white small like fluke or Swim bait on it and he wasn't catching anything and he ended up taking off but at one point ain't we were probably I don't know 60 yards from each other fishing that ledge and this guy these three guys in a boat like pull up and like stop like 80 feet in front of them and we just kind of looked at each other because the guy was going to go like straight towards in front of me too. And you know, I hear him go. Hey, bro you going Like just park in front of me or what are you doing? And he's trolling motor blah blah blah blah blah and he ended up moving out of the way, but he was just like we were both like seriously man, like what the hell, you know, and like I said, there was so many big boats. Yeah, especially we're right around where I was and I saw very few fish being caught and every time I caught one. I got choked so and it sucked because I was fighting the wind. So I think that was part of my problem too is like I couldn't move. Yeah, I couldn't move back onto my spot because I was getting blown by the wind and you know, these other guys are obviously getting blown behind me. So there was a few times where I had to like go out towards the deep and then go around them and then come back in because I wasn't going to be a jerk and like just cut in front of them. Like they were all of us. I mean I should But I mean, I got better etiquette than that. Yeah, you see a lot of that man. It's yeah, it's interesting. I mean some people get it and even I've gotten too close. I'm like, oh man, I gotta back off. Yeah, but I mean, it's it happens when you're in the zone and you're fishing like and and especially when you get the wind factor, you know, all of a sudden you're like, oh crap, I'm on top of this guy gotta move. Yeah, you know and usually when that happens I'm like, oh sorry, man, like, you know, No, when blew me whatever, you know wasn't paying attention. I apologize in nine times out of ten you say that and it's all good. It's all good. You know, I was on those points and like you know that second time. I've been DOTA and like we had a lot of boats around me, but we all kind of choreographed pretty well. Yeah, so it never got like weird. Some of you was too close and I think once people realize it you can kind of see people getting done fishing in the area. They would just take off. You know, I was very determined at that spot. I was like I am not leaving, you know, so I can't go back up. You know, fun fact while I'm doing it. I broke my Rudder steering pretty thoroughly. I lost one one track bar on the side and then the last the right one then I was screwed but my Rudder got stuck like bent as I can my pedal they Is going like a right turn I was going I was like I did a couple thrusts. I'm like, okay, it's gonna be great as like the winds kicking up. That's when I got windy. I'm in Dota and then I don't know it's it was great. It was great. Let's just say Jay had a rough weekend. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah deposited by sessions five and it would be so 10 feet of water. Did you ever like did you put a mark on your death fire? No, but I did go to Amazon today and replace it. I was going to see if we got any Super divers out there, you know. Go find Janesville ProForm. It's it's it 10 feet and it's super grassy. There's no way his know where there's a will there's a way bro. Well, it's got a tripod on it too. So funny. It's bug brand-new go find it so over there. It's right out of like where the not where the launches but that other spot little further away just follow the weed line, right? It's in the green stuff. I know somebody was like what exactly why don't you just die for it? I'm like it was Rocky. I probably would have well like that that was a situation I ran into when I was down in down in Tennessee when I lost my phone like I seriously thought about diving down trying to find it what it was in current in like 14 foot of water. It's a little farther. I mean I got the mark on my deaf liner where it's at, but I'm sure it's further Downstream now. Oh, it's swimming is a whole. For the cancellation. We haven't done it for a while. Yeah. Yeah plus you're old. Yeah, I am. It's when I wouldn't have done. Well either totally like but there was a second there. I was like go for it. Like I was like, there's no way I mean, I looked right at my Sonar and stuff are we read the down scan on I looked over and I was like, there's no way that is no way to find this thing. Yeah, so I just kind of chalk. It up is to well deserve loss Ryan and that's why there's a wall I sit in my fridge because it was it that things fault. Yeah and partly Brian's but we won't talk. How is it my fault? You come help me land - hey, I was thinking I was thinking food so I could feed you man. Yeah, I bet mmm, what a trying experience. Sorry. Jay. Yeah, it happens. I guess yeah is so yeah, Dylan was throwing a white creature bait on those beds. He figured out that they would bite that and he was using white so we could see the fish actually pick it up, which is something you should do when your bed fishing usually those fish are aggressive and they just want to move whatever is intruding their space off the bed and he upgraded several times throughout Out the day and I think Dusty was doing something similar. I briefly heard the to talking so I don't want to say exactly but I'm pretty sure Dusty was bed fishing as well. I don't I don't know if what exactly he was using but I know Dylan it showed me what he was using and congrats again to him. However something interesting did unfold. At at the results in you know, I'm not trying to pick on anybody bringing this up. But I think this is something we should talk about. We got some newer to kayak fishing and kayak Tournament Fishing and you know, they called the top ten up there in this. This gentleman was like Hey, man, like I will you didn't call my name I should be up there. And he had what would have put him in second place? I believe he had a pretty healthy bag. He had like something like a half or three quarters of an inch more than what Dusty had and you know, they were like, all right, hold on. Let's let's see what's going on and supposedly the gentleman had an issue upload and fish like it wouldn't allow him to upload to the The trail tournament and so what he did is he took the photos and he uploaded it to the Wisconsin monthly. And I think he thought because like the den of fire the timestamp the location would be attached to those photos. They would just assume like that was for the trail event. I don't know. But what kind of think of that though? There will be like two distinct different numbers. Sophia's fish in the monthly the monthly we have different numbers than the will rape you optional turn right right now I mean, okay, so sorry observing that well, here's my thought process and then you you can think about this or chime in on this. So yeah that indeed there would be two different tournament identification numbers one for the Wisconsin monthly one for And I'm assuming it was a Wisconsin monthly. I just heard monthly through through some chitter-chatter. And and then the actual Trail event would have its own separate identifier number. So he uploaded those photos to the monthly now. Here's the problem. He never called the tournament director. He didn't bring it up at check-in in in he didn't get those photos uploaded by the upload deadline. So he waited till the awards. You know and he never saw his name on the leaderboard. I mean obviously he was looking at the leaderboard because he knew he should have been in the top ten. So why why wouldn't you say something and that that's where it all comes from. So now the upload period is already passed and now you're bringing it up. So, you know, that's the thing is nobody knew about it, and I'm sure whoever the judge was for. The trail is someone different who judges the monthly. So I mean the monthly person like sometimes it could be days before they approve your photo, you know, it's not like instantly and I think Amanda Brennan she works for the kbf was the person judging photos because they said all right. Hold on. Let's figure this out and they called Amanda, too. figured out and then the guy explained what he did and you know, he was like, well, I believe he was talking to Derek Akin and he's like, well, did you tell anybody? And you know, I I just step back. I was like this isn't my place like you guys figure it out whatever so they ended up, you know, there's a 48-hour dispute period with kbf but you know after talking to a couple guys were all like I really don't think that's going to fly. You know it. Well, I mean, here's the biggest thing about it like this it already The weekly are the monthly identity of monthly identifying identification number code. Whatever is going to be different from the trail series, you know first and foremost second if you ever have trouble with your app, you should call somebody right away right as you even you and Brad said you had some issues with uploading hit the button like 8 or 10 times yet to take right so, but but Is the other thing if you're doing one of these tournaments you're going to tell me that you're not like insanely fanatic about the app and making sure you're on the right, you know the right tournament your I mean everything about it would scream like hey, you're on the right thing to be submitting your photos again. If you're having issues. They have a phone number. You can call during the tournament. Let somebody know when real time that you're having this issue. And then save your pictures obviously because then you can because then you're prepared. Okay, this is failing. I've got to upload as soon as I get to somewhere where there's some Wi-Fi or something or again call them and tell them I have issues and I have my pictures you got a lot of time for that. Now when you show up you already know you have this issue, but I know that you're putting your pictures on the right tournament. Yep, you know tournament page and you don't want to keep that a secret. Yeah, you just don't I mean, it's I mean, I just don't you know, I mean me personally, I mean it's a lesson learned for that guy. But sure I I'm not I'm not saying the dudes eating of course. I'm not saying that but oh no, I mean it's not it's not coming together for me. I don't know. Yeah, I just they just don't know. Yeah, it just didn't make sense. Like why why would you upload them to the monthly like unless he did it on accident and even realize it it's the only thing I can think of no because I in this is all hearsay to so I'll say that you know, but who I talked to had talked to him directly, I believe, you know something about like, you know, when you pull up tourney acts it shows the tournament you're enrolled in and yeah, when you go to upload and you got to click on that the trail event was Even on their supposedly from what I understand and he couldn't even click on that it like it wasn't even listed. The only thing he had listed was the monthly and that's why he uploaded to that supposedly. There's the well, here's the thing to you that you could have done a work around it with you like online the right the like regular web page red red. Well, not only that but you take your photos and you get to check-in which I remember when he showed up because I showed up early because I got off the water a little early. I knew I wasn't going to operate great any fish where I was fishing Eddie's bathroom to but real yeah. Yeah, that was a real reason but you know, I got off the water like 20 minutes early and I got to check in fairly early. There was hardly anybody there and I remember he got After fairly early and why he didn't say anything to Susie or Derek Aiken and that's another thing too is not too sidetracked. But this was hosted by Great Lakes kayak fishing series Susie roll-off was a tournament director and Derek and was a co-director and I thought they did an awesome job put on an awesome event Pizza Hut donated like 40 pizzas for the captain's meeting and the way in like so we got fed. We got Beverages and goodie bags and stuff. So thank you to those guys for doing such an awesome job, but why he didn't talk to those people or make a phone call? Like that's a thing like when I lost my phone at Nikka Jack. The first thing I did was I got to shore found a guy with a phone and called the tournament director. And I was like, hey, what's my options? Like this is the trouble I'm having. I know you're busy right now. But unfortunately, I'm in a situation and that was the first thing I did and I took my photos on my GoPro and he told me this is what you got to do. You got to get those photos uploaded by whatever ways you need to do it in order to have your fish submitted. So I had to get off the water early drive to my laptop. Stop that was an hour and something away and get my photos uploaded before the deadline. So that way at least I had my five fish submitted, you know. So again, I'm not like bringing this up to like pick on anybody or anything like that, you know, it sucks that I even have to put that disclaimer out there. But you know, we always talk about learning from our mistakes, right? And this was a mistake that a gentleman had and it was a unique situation. So that's why I'm bringing it up. So yeah. Yeah. So yeah, I mean the moral of the story is yeah you have any issues whatsoever on the water any issues all the director let them know what your deficiencies are right now what issues having special events to do with the app because they can probably go and like the background make sure that in this case the names on there or that the actual link to the tournament is on the app sure they can help it. Meanwhile, you've already taken those pictures so you should be good to go. Right and if worst comes to worst you can show you can you know arrived at the scene and you know, whether you do it from a laptop or you you know, maybe you can do it from the cloud. I don't know. I'm just saying right, right, you know or do the roundabout don't use the app go to the website as are what's called sign in and work, you know work through it there, but right there's other avenues to let some we know what's going on. You know, you just can't keep a secret. Figure they're not going to know. Yeah, just like in this this so this guy isn't mentioned at all in the winnings, which he legitimately could have been. Yeah. Well it sucks because if if he would have had his fish submitted, he would have taken second place and if he was signed up for bonus box that's 1,200 bucks thousand for second place and 204 bonus bucks. And that's a huge kick in the nuts. Like I would be furious too. You know, I know he was kind of upset. I mean he didn't cause a scene or anything, but at least my knowledge, but you know, he was he was pretty distraught. I mean that's that's a good chunk of change man. And yeah, it sucks, you know, so I mean that's the thing a mistake like that can cost you legit thousand dollars, you know, if not more, you know, yeah Eddie been had he had the inches for First place that's 2,300 bucks plus, you know, if he was wearing enter s you know how to catch board, you know, whatever. I mean you get all those other incentives if you take first place, so I don't know man. It's a bummer and it's an unfortunate situation, but I thought it should be shared. Well, I wanted to say this to you like this is something similar but different so I actually got a second place. In the River Basin tournament once lo and behold actually on the chain and the thing was though is that we heard about who's a friend of mine. One of the guys Josh he ended up flipping is is yak in the river and we all heard about this before he arrived because everyone was like, well, where is he because he has a partner in crime to that. He was with and we're waiting we're waiting and stuff and we all kind of voted like, well, you know, they actually let us Aside like hey if he shows up or when he shows up on, you know deep are you okay with our do you accept the option of him? Maybe still submitting his fish, you know, and everyone was like well, yeah because it was such an unfortunate situation and this is except that you know, and that you know, what's it called an exception to the rule but you know, we knew he flipped his Yak. We knew that he lost some stuff. He broke some stuff. I'm like, well, why not? Just I mean I'd let him I mean it's make his day a little better. Yeah, dude had a rough day on the water at least give them. Yeah, throw him a bone, you know. Yeah and he shows up. He's like I got my phone. I'm like, oh you can submit your stuff and he's like, no. It's an apple. So that's internal memory phone wouldn't turn on so it was done. So had he had a Droid he could have taken it as Heats are because they're waterproof. And so that that, you know, you should know that to for vision, but he we would have let him submit his fish and then when he told me his fish the sizes he had he would have taken second he would have he would have called me down to third but I need but that's a testament to a to it's like we knew what was going on. And then some decisions were made granted a thousand bucks wasn't online. But you know just I don't know just because we're all fishermen and there's kind of a Creed that a lot of us except, you know between you know, we want to keep it as Fair as possible kayaking. It's you know, you're going to flip every now and then yeah, it's not a matter of if it's a matter of when Shawn, you know, but I mean, like I said, it was similar different at the same time. So he did let somebody know we did find out. Now and he could have saved his own day that you know, he could submit his fish but you know Electronics failed and you know, that was that but I mean point being he alerted people we knew and you know, people started making decisions based off of that and that could have been something to write if it's like, so that's another thing, you know, there's rules in place. There's always an acceptance of the role, you know? Yeah, right ain't that right? I feel like I'm not saying that right exception. An exception I keep seeing acceptance, you know it is I don't have anything sense ception. I need I need my brain juice. But I mean, yeah, so an exception to the rule, you know, although kbf is a little more harsh but my point is is yeah, let's let me know what's up, you know? Yeah. It's like the implicit. I need to know where your anyway, so, you know, it sounds going sideways. Let somebody know. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's just the biggest thing. You know, it's just Keeping people in the loop when you got issues. And you know, let's be honest. I mean apps crash, you know, and I think they had an issue at the National Championship this year the year before and stuff like that where like guys can submit their fish and stuff. So, you know, they worked it out. I mean, especially when you get a ton of traffic going all to the same app or website, so to speak, you know, like those servers can only handle so much. So much and I remember watching like one of the way in days or something for the national championship and Hoover. It said that you know tourney acts that brought on some more servers so it could handle all the traffic and stuff like that. So they were working Al Kinks You know, I remember seeing a Glenn Blanchard video when he was fishing one of the it might have been a kbf event out in Earlier this year and he was having issues uploading as fish and then all of a sudden they call them they're like well your uploads are working because you just submitted the same fish like seven times but he had already called them and said, hey like I'm having an issue so they figured it out when they saw the same fish seven times. So he's like, he should be good. But what it was is it like he would upload the fish and it would get uploaded attorney X, but it wouldn't show up in his like live. Well or or you know Stringer or whatever so I mean those things do have issues. So if you have an issue and that's why you know kbf you got to go through the rules addendum for every tournament and it'll list boundaries it'll list submit times. It'll have the tournament directors phone number on there or the people you should contact if you have a problem and You know, unfortunately, you know, this gentleman didn't do it. But you know, there's a reason why they put that stuff on there. So always go through and like check that stuff out, you know, because when I lost my phone what I did is, you know, when I found that guy on Shore thank God he was there. I was like came in like explaining the situation and I actually had to go I'm like can I actually, you know use like your browser website or you know internet I'm like I have to find this phone number and that's what I did. I went to turn e ex went to the event page found Richard pennies. Yeah, that was Richard pennies phone number called him and you know, he picked up and you know, we figured it out, you know, that's what you do in that kind of situation or any situation where you're having problems. So, yep, sometimes it doesn't work out. But it's part of the game. Yeah. Yeah. I mean you can lead a horse to water don't mean he's going to drink. Well, if you know what let's segue over to the blue sky, so now so now because I want to hear you talk about this thing. I want you and when that banners coming down, so I'm going to get I'm going to get you a blue sky just put over it at that. Yeah. Bye. I want one of those blue fancy blue my guy shirts you were You're wearing over the weekend those that it's pretty nice and you know, I had that before it even came up. Anyway, so we're talking about blue sky, so you've now had experience on the blue sky for quite a bit of time quite a bit of miles with the prop 2 blade. Yeah. So talk about that and like in basically how it differs from, you know, everything else you've use and what's now what is really starting to engrave. This getting a blue sky because you've talked extensively about it. And it sounds like it's a done deal. So everything Jay said about the two bladed prop was absolutely correct. I think we talked about well, we had guests the last two episodes. I think it was when you went up to Fremont lake and you tried it out and you were like, holy crap, and I know you know, I talked to A couple guys at the shop and rock Town adventures and I was like, I don't know Jay says it's like that was what the problem was. So like I decided last minute. I was I worked at the shop Wednesday night and talking to Travis. Shout out to t-bone Happy Birthday Travis. Happy birthday buddy, and we just did a little float trip today, but You know, I was like, hey man, anybody demo in the blue sky this weekend. He's like, nope. He's like you want to take it now. I was like, yep fish out a blue sky this weekend and I said, but we need to put a two bladed prop on it and he's like they didn't send it to me yet. And I said, well, there's one on the wall. So when they send it to you will put it back in the package. So we swapped out the prop right then and there. and we launched out of Governors Island and it was the same thing. I think you got three petals in and I was like, holy yep Nikes and you just started laughing here. Look I told you I told you but yeah, and I know Ricketts talked about it. Shout out to Jason Rick. It's he had talked about it and what a huge difference like that resistance in that Jackson Drive just isn't there anymore. It was like Smooth paddle in regular steady Cadence pedal. I'm definitely not as fast as Ricketts. He's probably in more shape than I am. But I was I was getting like for four point two miles an hour, which was cruising. I mean if I really paddled I could get over 5, but you know, then I thought I was going to have Heart attack like tournament morning. So like when my legs got tired, I like actually leaned over and started pedaling with my hands. It's just so I can get to my spot before everybody else. I was so worried about it that's dedication folks. But dude, what a what a huge difference, you know, I've talked about the PDL dry before that drive is like super turkey and and quick. The only thing like I didn't really like about the PDL drive when I took it out on the Predator was it's a fixed. So if you hit something You're going to get stopped in your tracks or you're going to break the prop which I've broken a prop because when that thing locks down I took it down there when I fished Banner Marsh for the kbl makeup event for synchronous. I think it was and did you go down there with me? The banner. Yeah the second time somebody with me. I was there for the tournament without second time. I forget who the heck went down there with me and then Chris from the kbl lose out here in Rockford - down there either way. when you stand up in that thing, I think I had like kicked or when I move my footage unlock the drive from being in the locked position. So when I went to like take off and I like had some weeds on the prop, so I backpedaling then peddled for a real fast that whole dry popped up. In one of the blades broke off so and not only that when you go into shorty got to like mess with pulling that thing up and getting it set up, right so you're not dragging it or whatever. So that's what I didn't like about that. What other pedal drive by taken out? Oh, I have peddled Jacob roughs Titan 12. It's a smooth paddling boat. It's just not fast like the gearing in it. It just isn't right in my opinion. I think it could be faster. Either that or it's just because those things are Titans, you know, they're big heavy boats and they got kind of a goofy Hall designed so they don't move through the water like an actual like kayak, but You know the flex Drive actually played a part. So I fish that River and what Ricketts said about fishing rivers is legit. I was floating pedaling through one point two feet of water. And never touch bottom. The only time I touch bottom is when I came in to Shore and that flux Drive kicked up into the hall for I pulled it up. The boat is super slick man. It's it's definitely a head turner. A lot of people. Look at it. Don Thompson made a made a comment to me right before we took off. He's like dead things like cheating. I was like, it's no different than your PA 14 bro, and then he took off so but you know it like Ricketts said, it's not it's not a kayak. It's about for sure. It's different its kind of in the kayak family for sure, but it's different and you know, a lot of people think you could like. You got all this room to move around and stuff which isn't necessarily true like yeah, you could swivel the chair around and go back to your black pack, which I had mine strapped to the back. I had my depth finder mounted to a yak attack so block and I had a yak attack switchblade. Running the transducer and that was on the side rail there and you know, would that pedal drive in the front? You can't really move around a ton. You can potentially trip on it and end up in the drink. That's something I learned because I tried to move around a bunch. So the real struggle I had which I think we talked about it. Night is I didn't like practice like taking pictures of fish on my bump board and I was like how the hell is this going to work? Because if that's that's the downfall of that boat, right? It's so open fish flops. It's going in the drink. So I kind of put a game plan together where I put some rods in that built-in Rod Stager that's on the one side and kind of created a fence. I put it so it was standing up not laying down there was rods there and it actually worked because I had a fish flop off the board hit those rods and then like came back towards me. So it was almost like having a gunnel wall on your kayak and I could only net fish on the one side of the boat because of that. I mean I probably could have done it to the other side, but I just kind of fought those fish to the one side so I can net. Mm and Yeah, I mean, I got a ton of fish out of that boat all all weekend long, you know, so it there are some things that you wouldn't think about, you know being in a traditional kayak and looking at that you can like that's like that's just floating barge. Yeah, it kind of is but it's like You know, you definitely got a pedal your butt off to get that thing moving, you know, it's heavier to load and unload. However, I did get a pretty nifty little system down for it where I can get loaded up but not only that I could leave most of my stuff set up so I could just pull it out drop the landing gear pull it off the the Bed Extender and and wheel it away so Super impressed man kudos to Jackson for really going through it, you know, you know, obviously I'm not a Jackson guy. So that's an unbiased position. What do you mean? You're not Jackson guy? Well you are my eyes. Might have to put in a phone call there and stagger all he doesn't like to admit it. Yeah, but I was super impressed man, and it was funny because me and Ricketts were texting back and forth. He was like kill him in the blue sky bro, like you got this, you know, because he was asking about the leaderboard that morning or something. He had texted me about something else or maybe a screenshot the Standings and I sent it to him and so we were chatting back and forth via text all weekend about it. But yeah, it's super cool man. I just got to figure out however work, you know as far as transport with mobile HQ and all that stuff because we actually had to put that thing on the roof rack on top of the mobile HQ trailer several times up and yeah, and there's nothing Easiest thing in the world. It's actually quite wonderful. Jeez. Jeez pretty strong now after the weekend. Yeah, that's not I don't even like put my own kayak up there let alone in that thing. Like it's a matter of fact when like you're like, hey, we're taking mobile HQ am like, okay Kilroy it is. Yeah. Nope. Nope. Nope, it'll drive. I'll stick with paddle. Yeah. Yeah, it's I would say you need That tray. Yeah, something like I'll figure it out. But yeah, I think a blue sky maybe getting added to the collection. I have to say man. It looks good on you. What can I say? I can't turn this off like you say? Yes. I just can't turn this off. I guess that's applicable night. Yeah. So yeah, it was it's cool man. It's a great boat. I dig it. I enjoyed my time in it and You know, we came home from Madison went out on my home Lake and you got some Redemption. Yeah, they had got a lot of bike probably around 20. Yeah, I would say it was like after I figured out exactly what they wanted. That was it was like the icing on the cake because I mean you remember when we were leaving I'm like, so we're going to it was like we're going by Scott. He's going to go by Delavan. Are we going around? Like I was just like I need to go somewhere because yeah, I Mojo just didn't seem like it was there and I'm like I've been striking out lately and you know that goes just like man, but I'll tell you it was fun being on your Lake especially since I miss like those first five bike. Yeah. I was like do I know how to do this anymore? And then once I nailed down exactly what they're hitting just by trying to feed a few different things out. I was like this perfect. Let's do this. So what were you tossing out there? Because I'm not even sure I knew what you were throwing. Well, I started off with the a crevasse Sonic shed. It's like a five inch soft plastic bait paddle tail with a half ounce underspin. I was throwing that I was getting some his I actually hooked a fish but couldn't bring them out of the weeds. You got away then I was like well, let me start throwing the white cheddar be just to see how that works. It's azim and the think it was a three Force no 5/8 ChatterBait with the 6-inch swimmers Shadow over the whole thing is another Z man thing. Anyway, start their own that I was getting. I was definitely getting fish. I lost the fish course. This is these are one hook type lures. So it's not a slam dunk every time you're going to it's easy to fish the weeds, but you're going to miss fish sometimes but but that was the main reason for those two. Ooh, I was like I was using just single blade or single hooked lures are a little more streamlined to cut through the weeds because there are a lot of weeds and then and then I just got kind of was like well, I've got a few now so and some large mouth akali to large about how there and then I was like well, let me start throwing the announced that the the ounce redhead because it's not an ounce and a half like my other stuff we're runs too deep because I was running about five feet of water at times but it still has enough where you could drop it down. You know 13 feet if you want. That's why I like it because they track real good at low depth. But yeah, I started doing that and then kind of ripping it through the weeds. Sure May. That was it like they like, I mean, it was like I could almost call my shots like once I figured that out. I remember we took off and I was like watch this J First cast. I'll catch a pike and you were like, you better not and the second. Cast I had a pike bite off my swim made and you were like what the heck what the heck and then we kind of like when separate directions. I went I went out deep and you went up Shallow in the weeds and I texted you and I was like dude, I'm hammering the bass and you're like I got like I forget how many Pike you said you you had caught at that point, but I was like, oh thank God. Yeah. I was like Jays gonna have a breakdown if he doesn't catch a pike out here. Like I was like losses. Yeah. It was cool. We live stream down the the Instagram. It's probably not up there anymore because I think that only he's out for like 24 or 48 hours I forget but you know if you land in probably one of the biggest ones you caught that day but also I stream to I was catching some chunky bass like six teens to 20s out deep like females and I was trying a new technique that like I'm not super familiar with and I remember I was telling you and you're like what you've never thrown a Shaky Head before it was like no dude like that was one of the things I wanted to work on this year like I've been doing a ton of finesse fishing and obviously it's been you know working well for me but you know Shaky Head was one of the things I wanted to like really start working on and dialing in and dude I was just hammering fish and I remember the Godfather called me at one point I had my cell phone on speaker in my life jacket pocket and it was like Every four or five minutes, I'll go another one and he was like dude. He's like, I remember at the end of the phone call. He's like, well, this was the greatest live fishing show ever next time you're out. Let me know. I'm going to call you, you know, because I was taking pictures and sending them to him and stuff like that. So it was pretty funny. But you know, I did a live stream about, you know, just expanding the toolbox and trying new techniques and things like that. So it was just one of those things, you know. once you start dialing things in man, it's just another thing to add so Yeah, it's just like I wanted to figure out what they were what they were hitting. Exactly. And yeah, what they would anyway, and I think I got pretty close to it. I mean you saw me off that one the one Grassy Point sure. I called like fish like a same spot. Yeah, really dude another one another one. Yeah. I mean it was crazy. I could like call it. I mean it was a great day. It was on you know, which was great and it was cloudy. I was like, oh Che got his mojo back. Yes. I was so upset when we got there in the sun was out of Billy cloudy the whole way home and then it like the sun poked out and you're just like what the heck dude be a Fighting Chance is just this is just off. It's too funny. That's too funny too funny. So well, I guess I guess the new news big announcement super happy to announce. Ounce teaming up with a great organization called operation outdoors and I am taking on the role of regional coordinator for the state of Illinois. I'm sure a lot of you guys are familiar with Heroes on the water operation Outdoors is very similar. However, it's not only for veterans. Yes, but First Responders and basically what we do is we create opportunities to just kind of help out those who have served for us, you know, whether it be a military veteran or fire police, you know, EMT just provide them with an opportunity and their families to get outdoors and do some cool stuff and we're not only fishing and kayak fishing. And we're also doing hunting camping hiking golfing trips and you know other Outdoors things just just to help and you know kind of give back and you know help some of these guys who maybe struggle with like PTSD and some you know, stuff like that. So, Would be forever grateful if you guys just go and check them out and if anybody's interested in helping out go to operation - Outdoors dot-org. It's a 501c3 non for profit, but it's a cool thing and I'm super happy and to be offered the spot Brad her boss is one of the bigger people in the Seishin and he reached out to me we met at the Wisconsin fishing show and you know, we got some baits. He used to be part of Heroes on the water. But he wanted to do something more than just the kayak fishing in the thing about operation Outdoors is it you're not taking like 20 guys and throwing them in a kayak and you know, Here you go. Like this is what we're doing. It's more of a one-on-one situation like a private guided trip, you know, some guys that are you know suffering with, you know, certain things from you know, their time served, you know being in big crowds of people sometimes isn't the best so we do like a more intimate thing. If anybody's interested in helping out where in many states and you know, ideally we would like to be in all 50 states. So, you know, if you want to volunteer to you know, take a guy out, you know kayaking or kayak fishing or something like that or fishing in general just go to operation outdoors and the how to help page and just fill that out. Tell them you heard about it on Patti. Finn podcast but yeah, it's super cool man, you know, there's one thing two things that get me excited and that's getting youth involved in doing outdoors type things, especially nowadays with technology, but the second thing is, you know, giving back to Veterans those who have served and you know, that's why you know, I was all about jumping on helping Eric Richard Hammer lures. With recycling Plastics program, you know, it's just a huge thing. I mean, it's it's a really small thing that you know, we've done with that recycling program compared to what these guys have done for us in a hole. So anything I can do to give back and you know, I never served I've had some some friends and Some people I went to high school with that actually went out to Afghanistan and stuff and never never made it home. So that's something that I hold dear to my heart and it's just a great organization and I couldn't be happier to just kind of help give back to those people. You know, I know there's some EMTs that saved my life back in the day. Like I literally shouldn't be here but, you know, we won't get into that but Awesome, EMT save my life after a car wreck. So, you know. Situations like that makes you want to help kind of give back to to those types of folks without them, you know. You never know. So they're the ones that fought for our freedoms to go out and fish every weekend and participate in tournaments do this podcast and have a free speech program, you know, so I mean, it's just a good way to get back into my opinion and looking forward to getting the Ellen oi chapter off the ground. So yeah, if you guys would be kind and check it out and see what What it's all about, I think you'll be surprised so. Boom good. Yeah, buddy. Yeah buddy super excited so buddy, so but yeah, man. That's that eat you got anything else to add to this evenings episode? No, sir. I'm good with that being said recycling program recycling Plastics program savior. Use Plastics send them to the address in the show notes. Let's go out to Eric Richards email so it's down makes new baits. They get donated to give her some water. And hopefully operation Outdoors. We'll see I got to talk to Eric about that. But give our friends at Southern Lake Co Austin, what up? Southern Lake company.com awesome apparel fishing Bates things of that nature give them a check out check out rocked on adventures all the demo days or down in the show notes as well. If you're looking at getting a new boat to you new listeners. Thank you for stopping by and checking out the paddle and fin podcast. We got new episodes every Tuesday morning. They are live when you crawl out of bed. Check out next week's episode. Sewed and if you guys got a question comment, you know want to reach out paddle letter N in fin at gmail.com or hit us up on our social media at paddle letter n and Finn. paddle and Fin.com that's where you can find all sorts of goodness and we've had.com. Yeah buddy until next time. tight lines smooth paddling
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