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You said and I am just so glad that our paths crossed over on Instagram and that we've become really good friends through that. This chat was so much fun. I'd be looking forward to getting to hear more about Lizzie and her life and all about a running story for such a such a long while in my opinion Lizzie Was Born to Run Lizzie started running in 2017. Just seven months into her running journey and haven't gone through an incredibly tough time with her family Lizzy went on to run a first half marathon. Turn in just one hour 35 literally seven months of running and she runs a 135 despite. No time go as well. Furthermore. Lizzie would go on to fall pregnant with her fourth child and run during her pregnancy and bounce back after that pregnancy really quickly. Lizzie would go on to run a half marathon shortly after giving birth and Incredibly decided to train for her first marathon while still having a newborn baby at home her fourth child. Toby was literally a several months old and she would go on to train for this half marathon for six months and she came second second in the marathon at the great Welsh Marathon internationally her debut marathon. It's just a crazy story and she completed the marathon in a crazy three 1204 me and Lizzie chatted so much running that I've put together a part 1 and 2 to this episode. So stay tuned for both because the story is is just incredibly inspiring and Lizzy's enthusiasm just beams loudly through a voice and it was just such a joy to catch up with her. Hello and welcome to not another Runner podcast and 2 episode 11. Today's guest is Lizzy Diamond a mother of four a Drama teacher Club member of see sweaty runners in Newport and I have to say a very very Speedy Runner. So Lizzie started running in 2017. She's going to tell us a lot about here running Journey. Now this today, I can't wait to ask lots and lots of questions, especially how How on Earth she managed to debut in the marathon at nine months postpartum and in three hours 12, it's just incredible. I can't wait to ask so many questions. So welcome Lizzie. Thank you for joining us. Thank you for having at this lovely. Oh so excited. I've got loads of questions. I don't know where to start. I'm ready when you are. I'm actually genuinely excited. Thank you, right? Okay, so we'll ask. Little bit about yourself than is he what is it that you do for a living? So I'm primarily a teacher I teach acting and drama and dancing in Newport and in the vale of Glamorgan in cowbridge and I do teach little kiddies on a Wednesday for a monkey music. It's called where I teach them preschool Age music The Very basics of Music basically and how long have you done that for then gosh funky music I've done since my littlest was nine months. So about five years now gone quite a while and I just just so that everyone knows obviously we know you're a member for so you just tell us ages of your for Little Darlings. My bumbino's. Yes so bad and my biggest girl she is 7 Florence is 6 Ralph is 3 and Toby is one. Yeah things literally I think it was two weeks ago wasn't it? Yeah, it was his first birthday was a seventh of July. Yeah blessing. It's just whizzed by the First Years whizzed by they always do though and I was thinking that's the other day. When you posted some are you posted the most beautiful picture it was you running with all literally all four kids the three running next to you and then you are Toby in your arms. I was just like, oh my God, and I just thought would you did you always want to have four children? Did you always want a big family? I did, you know, I did I One of three, I've got two sisters and my husband is also one of three. He's actually a twin and he's got his twin sister and an older brother. So I knew I always wanted three and I thought well, let's let's even it out a bit and it took a bit of convincing. I must say but he caved and we eventually ended up having four. I love it. Yeah. Oh and what what is obviously like having four got Be busy busy. Like what's the biggest challenges you face as being a mum and a mum to for so I think definitely tiredness but I always say when my husband and I are like, oh my goodness me. We are so tired. We just go it's only temporary with regards to the fact that the older they get the easier it gets and it feels Like Only Yesterday Bella was born and now she's nearly eight and I think got it. Wizard by so fast. I'm okay with being tired for a little bit because I want to invest as much time and energy as I have as I can sorry and while they're young because it's in just goes so fast. Obviously keeping the house clean. I must say is a huge challenge that I spy. Honestly. I can't give on top of it. No sooner do I tied to those toys away did they take them back out and just and spread them all around the kitchen and the living room in any area that looks like it might To be clean and tidy then I think my absolute your biggest challenge is balancing balancing life balancing work balancing running and sharing myself amongst my husband the but mostly the children as well because I don't want them to ever feel like oh, you know what we don't see my me which they don't thankfully, but that hopefully I'm doing something right there, but I think yeah, I think those things are what the biggest challenges are that I face. Us on a day-to-day basis. Yeah, it can't it can't be easy. I often like say like I'm looking at others. You've got not even for like 2 or 3 or even 1 because like genuinely I also have my sister and she's got an 18 month old and then she's she's got hairy as well who's for but he's there half the time because having his her partner's little one there and I'm just like I'm exhausted after a few hours and I think oh my God, I look at my mom because my I'm gonna fall and I see I'm like, how on Earth did you do? I think she had all four of us at one point. I think it was all under the age of five and a half six select. Wow. Yeah, it was busy. It was and I just think well, I don't know how she did. I don't know how you do it. I know you know it is it is, you know, I thought I think is is absolute Bedlam, but you get used to it, you know and your life just becomes this continuous like state of Chaos in in a good way though. It's just busy and it's Manic and you just kind of just you just get used to it. It becomes the norm. Whereas people who like their Norm is kind of quiet peaceful State of Mind who then come in and visit and they're like, whoa, what is actually going on here? And then yeah, so I think that's what your men probably had just this. That was her normal. Yeah. Yeah. I like you said like you said about not mind and being tired temporarily because I mean it's not Going to be like that forever. Like you said it goes so quickly they're going to grow up so is like and the thing is if you're like you were marathon training you except that you're tired all the time. Anyway, tired re all the time like all the time all day just assist just a constant state of fatigue. So how was it that you got into when I mean I said a little bit like quickly that was in the intro that you genuinely started running in 2017, which I just find Like absolutely insane, especially the Speedy times and like the I mean the year you've had bad considering Toby is one like I've seen you win. I don't know how many races recently like local ones for your Club. You've like obviously SLI you were born to run almost. I think I think you found it later advice, but you were obviously Born to Run. Nah, that's really kind. I just I don't I really I just don't know. I don't I don't know really what's happening at them. It's and I feel incredibly lucky. I just go out there and I go to the races and I do what I can and I just think gosh, I was just I was just lucky every time I do I think I'm just it's just luck. I really do I got so I got into running initially because we were getting married in the June of 2017 and I thought you know what the easiest cheapest thing to do is just, you know pop some trainers on tie their shoelaces. Up and just do a little choke try and tone up and maybe lose a little bit of weight perhaps but really just get a bit fitter for the wedding and then so that was June starting February. That was June. So then we got married and then after that we kind of the received some sad news about my brother-in-law. So he was diagnosed with bowel cancer shortly after we got married and it was just a spiral and Will wind and a huge roller coaster of emotions for the next three months until September and then September he really sadly passed away and for me it's a kind of changed my perspective. No, obviously, I love to running and I'd signed up for cars if Hearth and I did it to raise money for the villandry cancer center where Paul his name was was cared for the majority of his time in Cardiff. Who are Amazing and yeah, it was so emotional doing that run. It really was I even get emotional just even talking about it now because there's when you get to my all ten of the I don't know whoever's done card of half marathon, they'll know they'll know Mile 10 because it's Ruth Park and it's a beautiful part of the run and you know, even you got three three-point-something miles to go and I hadn't seen my sister or my mom or my you know, my family who are waiting for me until then. So I ran and I ran and then I saw them and they were just all crying - so Natalie it is so hard to run when you're crying or you've got this. Yeah, lump in your throat. And it's so what I mean, you can barely breathe. Anyway, when you're running hard, I don't know anything less than running hard, unfortunately. But yeah, so I saw them and I just went for it and I just I just thought this is why I'm doing it this way. I'm doing it. Because it's just I don't know it it was a catalyst I think and it completely catapulted me into this this world of running and it gave me a reason it gave me reason to bear that weight and release it by running and just you know, when you're running and you're just looking around you and just taking it all in you think yeah. This is why I do it, you know the support out. There is one in a million in Cardiff has the best support in any half marathon I've done and then it just Just kind of went from there. I joined his weary running club in Newport. I finished that car too far from 135 and I wasn't with you doing it for a time. But then people around me while I go that's that's quite a good tunnel. So well if it is it and then kind of went from there it kind of went from there. And then that's that's where the running Journey began. Yeah, and because I got obviously we chatted earlier and you told me about your brother-in-law and I was so sad to hear of that. Obviously, you know really really difficult times. It could have gone one of two ways for some people especially, you know, trying to complete a race like that, especially in the memory of someone so close to you think it's not an easy. I mean, it's not an easy thing anyway training because that would have been your first half marathon wasn't it? Yeah. It's not easy to train and run like any half marathon, especially like your first but when doing a to those circumstances Like yeah, it can't I wouldn't I can just I can't really imagine it would have been very very difficult especially seeing your family because with a spectating you then with a the Cardiff Hearth, obviously because it's my hometown they do have a lot of people and we have a lot of people who run it and it's actually it's lovely you feel like even though it's so huge. The card of Hearth on is you do feel like it's one little Marathon because of the amount of people everyone says it's a small world don't know because there is so many people, you know, especially in there. World actually, yeah, but yeah, so there were spectating loads of people but because obviously it was my immediate family. They were tracking me and they were they were wondering when I was going to come and then when I did see them it was just yeah it you didn't obviously you thought now it's going to be fine. It's going to be fine. Hmm But yeah, and then it was yeah, it was really sad, but it was also really lovely at the same time the support just it does it just encourages you to just strive for Forward doesn't it? Yeah, and for you, it's been a positive thing. Like you said, it's been I mean we when we chatted earlier you said you'll run in especially at that time would have gone as to what was going on in your personal life with you sister and you know, your brother-in-law it was your way of coping well coping with what like giving you isn't it giving, you know, your time running was your time to what was the word we used earlier what it was it was a bit like releasing the tension you said wasn't it? Yeah. It was yeah. It was a coping mechanism. Said yeah, it was an absolute stress reliever. Yeah, because my sister is solid as a rock. She's one of the strongest people I know but dealing with something like that. You know, I can't imagine how hard it must have been for her. But as my sister my absolute best friend both my sisters and my best friend's a dealing with that was was all for you know, she was my sister, you know, and it is really hard and it was I felt like I was bearing the grief with her. Hmm, you know, yeah, so yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No it is and I'm glad that like for you it was it was a positive and has been a positive thing and that you've been able to continue running since then. I mean some people might not have been able to continue after that. But the yeah, you've take you that it's given you a positive that's good. I like that and you doing the card of half this year. I am you are out. I didn't get a place in time. I like I loved him because I lived there for a few years while I was in uni, and a lot of my friends live there. So yeah running Carter has really special. I love you. Never know. They're not they might have them. Some last-minute, you know people who drop out for injury or something. It's gonna look out. Well, the only thing is I last year when I did it I did a half marathon locally for my club and it's literally the week before and I did both of them laughter PB at the one locally and it's a very very hilly one and then two. Yeah, I was quite shocked actually and then the week after did Cardiff and it was like a horse's bit much to it, you know racing on both the cans so I did that. I think you got to like Take it easy on one and go all out on the other. Yeah, and especially a Half Marathon distance like oh, yeah, that's some hard. Well, don't you? Yeah. Well done. It was a search. Yeah, it's good fun. That's why people sometimes people do racing and then they do the other one as the training run don't know perhaps but I mean still mmm-hmm. And that was the idea. I was supposed to do a training run in the local one because it was like cause just people but of course as you start it to do, well it never goes that way and I went really fast on the way out. So hey y'all. I'm just going to take it slow and use this as a training run maybe later tap don't you get caught up in the moment. So how far how far like into your Runner and were you thinking of like right now? I'm going to join a club and like, how did you find them? Oh, yes Liz where we so I saw Because I live local in Newport and this way Runners are obviously Newport Runners. I saw them quite a lot when I was driving and I was quite jealous and also that looks quite fun. And because I was running a lot on my own. I thought it'd be really nice to have some company. And also I think that when you run with someone you kind of encourage each other don't you and yeah and support each other and I think that's what I was missing then because it I didn't want it to become lonely all the time. It's nice. Sometimes you go out on your own to get some head space. Ace but also it's also nice to have some company especially for the easy slow social runs or just easy runs in general. So I went to a kids party and the local pub and I saw one of the club members there and he said to me do you run and I said, yeah, I do a little bit of running any sort of you should join this worry. We do like a quite a few send around because I was like, I don't know whether I can commit to the weekday training because of the children and Okay, and he said I just you know, give it a give it a go and the good thing about this way is that you can just go for a few runs with them and then decide if you want to join up or not. You don't have to join them and then go. Oh gosh, I don't know this just for me. So I just joined a few Sundays runs and it was really lovely and it was it was great. And I thought you know what? It's nice to have some support and I learned while I'm learning. Actually I learned so much just from one run. It was like having a little science lesson because really I really I am a novice so I'm learning as I go learning on the job as they might say so that's how I kind of got into his weary. Yeah and I say that as well though, you do learn so much because the only food start running and those first couple years. There's so much to learn like it's not just putting it on putting your trainers on and going out for a like a little jog. It's the like, you know, this the slow runs the The infield back its the role in stretching strength train, then the judge went to increase one not two went went pull back. Let's loads like that you just especially if you hadn't run before it's like there's lots to learn isn't it? Yeah, and then you think you know a lot and then you're like, what's that the other day? I saw someone Instagram called plyometric training and I thought on a minute what I got me some of that so I'm yeah, it's kind of Stuffy. Isn't it? Yeah and yet always learning always there but you have you always been interested in sports like an active life success school on a few of your stories your go-to bodypump quite regularly, don't you and you do strength. Yeah. That is that is my strength training. Yeah. I feel like I don't really have the motivation to do strength training at home. And I know a lot of people do but I go out and I spend so much time running the one I come home. I'm like I need to be at home and I need to be men or wife both. Yeah, perfect M. So when I go out to my local gym, I just do a little bit. It's really good. Actually, I do really enjoy it. I do the strength training which gives me that the squats and the lunging and and the shoulders and the back work and the core work. So I do enjoy it quite a lot. Yeah, it's good and it's good to be part of a class again giving you that little social everyone else eggs you on a bit, doesn't it? Yeah, you do in those classes before you started to run in. No, not at all. No, I wasn't no I was going to the gym, but I was only doing treadmill mostly I didn't really do any classes. I did a spin class to the day and I can't tell you how hard it was. Actually, it's not ill magic. Wow. That is quite it's no joke. Did you go to Spain? I didn't realize how much I could sweat. Yeah, I haven't done it for a while and I keep meaning to go back. There's a 30-minute Express at the local gym. That's a really good one because it's really like it's like a hit workout. Yeah, it's been an unlikely. She gets you to put the resistance right up and literally you're like try and move the pedal and you just can't so she's actually look you're getting a strength training exercise from this as well. She's at that is what I want you to have strength training cardio hit intervals all in one in half an hour. So you go you little Wow, get off the bike and you leave and you're like, I don't think I can walk to the car park. You've got jelly legs. Haven't you know, I know I know I know they're like you need to move to the beat. I'm like babe. I'm really behind this be either. The resistance is too high, which is probably not my legs just can't cope with it. Yeah. So yeah, it's not to be taken lightly. You've good cross training though, really good cross training so good. Yeah. I should really incorporate it a bit more. But again, it's just down to Time elements is not having much of it. Yes prioritizing as you go along like what's important this week was important next week and you know adapting it to your training really, isn't it? Yeah, all our Saul Logistics and maths. Yeah. It is planning in advance as well. I think that helps. Yeah, definitely. So when you first started running in 2017, we you fast initially like did you like we're recording it on a watch on a nap because you're hot you are really fast. So I want to know will you? Blast from day one So I don't I don't think so, you know and because as you say you're a novice like I was a novice I just went out and I was like gosh I just did four miles. I'm feeling like a hero here. I went on to map my run remember that app. I mean is there are probably still going I meant that yeah, so map my run was like my main go-to When I use the app in my little arm band. Trap. Yeah, I am and no no and because I didn't know about any of this like threshold training and obviously on your but intervals. That's the one I did know about but I didn't really put any pressure on myself. I find that I do now, but I didn't put the pressure on I was just like I'm just going to go Jog and feel good about it and burn some calories and then go home and eat some cake and and that's going to be it and every time I find it hard, I'm going to picture that wedding dress and fitting into it. That was my thing. When I found it difficult, I was like picture walking down the aisle picture that dress picture how you want to look in it and keep on going. So no, I think the answer is no I think I don't know because that I did well I did the Cardiff half and then I did that in 135. So I when I went out that's I'm not being like Feb you start running in February. Like let me work this out March April May June July August September, so that's about seven months. It's because cough is always the first weekend of October. So that's seven in seven months. You're doing a 135 half my life and that is fast. Let's get perspective. I started and I started in March 2017. So yeah same here as you did 17 and then I did my first in well, hey, I would have done it the same year as you take Tony. I did by would have been a lot behind you because I know yeah to our Is too and I was a little bit better because I was aiming for sub 2 so yes, amazing know you were you would have been fast from day one - I just don't know. You know, I just again I'd maybe I've got everyone used to call me Lizzie long legs, but I was younger growing up and maybe maybe that's it. You know because I don't put it this way now right when I run it is not easy. So I don't even know if I'm a natural because I think that these people People who are running these incredible Times They just they look like they've just had a little soreness around the park. Whereas I've got to go in. You know, I got I'm licking the grass. I've got to go and take some time around the back of a building and now my head between my legs thinking what just happened like breathing and like I'm having an asthma attack almost. So honestly, it takes some grafting it takes some grafting so it maybe maybe I was but I feel like Now these days at this point in time. I'm training quite hard and I'm trying for these times and and I feel like I'm like brilliant like it is paying off a bit, but I feel like the moment I get a bit laksa Daisy with my training it. Well, I'll start plateau in big time. Yeah, because I just I don't know whether I'm in these people who can just naturally be fast. I think that if I were a bit lazy with my training guides, I just fall back a bit. You know what I mean? I don't know I think You've definitely think you've got it there. You've got to talk. Like if you didn't if you would if you weren't following a like a proper plan a book at the beginning and within some once you've done one has 85, you've got it and like obviously like consistency is just only going to pay and continue to pay because that's the I think that's the beauty and that's what I love about running is that it doesn't matter while you age it is actually a sport that you can improve with age because Endurance Sports, Don't know. I think they just say that you can improve over a jump over. You know, it's all about consistency miles in the bag select years from now can you can build and build up endurance so long as you stay healthy and you know relatively well and touch wood. Hopefully not injuries along the way it is something that you can work on and Chip Away chip away. So it's slow to it. It'll slow twitch muscles and Majora's capacity. Yeah. Well, you know what? Maybe it's me. It's a case of like watch this space where I'm just going to keep chipping away. The only the only problem I have is that I just can't fit in as many miles as I'd like to and that's okay at the moment because I'm working on speed but obviously I'm training for my next marathon which I'm sure will come to so then the long runs will have to come back in. So yeah watch this space but I feel very I feel very lucky and privileged if this is I think that comes naturally to me, you know, yeah and we'll get will definitely come to talk about the next marathon because I know what it is and I'm looking forward to talking about that and I actually want to feel like I'll ask you quickly. What's your schedule like at the moment so that because you did just say that you all like brain and really really hard so because you've said that I am very intrigued to know what is your weekly training schedule like now so I try and have actually get to Arrestees usually because I don't very much enjoy them and my legs really need them. But on a weekly basis, I'd tend to try and incorporate my long slow run which usually lands on a send a very early morning so I can fit in everything else and all the commitments. I will do a tempo run. If I don't have a race I will do some either intervals or like threshold training, but if I do have Right. I'll probably drop one of those so I don't get injured and then I'll do an easy read just I could just a nice run where you just go out and you genuinely just enjoy the love of running and yeah and take the pressure off a bit. So I'd probably training five times a week. Maybe I'm trying to anyway as much as possible. I'm not really I'm not really reaching 30 miles a week regularly yet. But when come up the next few weeks now I probably We will because it's getting closer to the next month. And yeah, but I've got Mega tank a on Saturday. So that'll be a race for me and I might do a race on Wednesday. Perhaps the 5K in Cardiff, which is called saffir 5km. So that'll be a tough one because even though it's 5K that is bass hard going. I find I'm terrible at pacing myself on on five k's and I definitely detonate every time I do it. But yeah, that's It usually looks like on a weekly basis and it's tough. But at the moment, I feel like it's necessary for my Big Goal, you know my end goal which you will find out soon. Hmm. Very intrigued. We where did you get your plan from you if you've got a coach at the moment like no, I don't like. Okay cool. I do I do it myself. Yeah, so I do take advice from the club and any members at the club members who are experienced. Obviously, you've got tons of people who have done a billion marathons and half marathons and 10ks and people who was speedy and and water boards and stuff like that. So I do tend to be like, what do you think I should do next? And yeah, they'll say you need to work on this. This is you know, you've got a base platform from your your marathon training you've got that endurance now you need to build up speed and then you can marry up the both. So that is exactly what I want to do. So and then I did a little bit of research. Then I thought right. Okay, that's what I need to do. I watch some YouTube videos from a guy called Jack Daniels. Yes, really? Good. Yes, he is - oh, yes, he is just incredible and it's such short videos. I get to just watch them which is brilliant without being disturbed just for like literally five ten minutes, whatever it is and I do learn, you know all about the threshold training all about the vo2max and heart rate training and stuff like that. And then I think right. Okay, so I set my own goals I take advice from the club. The club are like amazing and then obviously I try and represent them and support them back doing the races and stuff like that. And because it's helping me with my training goals to you know, have you seen the Jack Daniels V Dot calculator? Yes, I have that's quite interesting. Isn't it every time and see what your potential is. So if anyone doesn't know the Jack Daniels V Dot calculator, I'm sure if see again I've learned about In a another run-in podcast somewhere you can enter in the distance or like event Race distance and then enter the time you achieve that that distance and then it basically calculates. It doesn't just convert the time as to how long it would take you in like a longer or shorter event. It will actually like convert it like in a way that for example you put in your 5K race say for example, you get 20 minutes for a 5k, it'll Basically convert it. So it will give you a realistic time that you could achieve in a half marginal Marathon or whatever but not just by typing of doing the pace like for example, if you did an eight-minute mile Pace, it wouldn't just tell you the time for an eight-minute mile Pace. It would like literally calculate it accordingly because obviously as the distance gets longer your pace is naturally going to be a little bit slower for that endurance is really really really clever. Australian hard to explain actually, but yeah, it is really clever. It is isn't it because there's all that in good setting these goals, right? But when you actually think or you know, I want it. I want sub 1:25 in a half marathon and then you look at what actually that would be you think. Oh my goodness gracious me. Yeah. Can I maintain that low can I actually do that? So it's really good to set yourself realistic goals. As you said. Yeah, I couldn't agree more. Cool. Yeah, I was just intrigued to know what your weekly plan was. I know we got off a little bit of a tangent there. But yeah, perhaps we do we do and we will we will invest and now would you run whilst you were pregnant with Toby your last baby and I'm sure I read on Instagram that you run literally up until 38 weeks. So like how did you manage this? Because obviously, you know, you were still you know a very new. Run out because I'm think let me think and I was a 38 weeks you would have been run it. So that would have been literally mid-june end of June or 2018. So you would have only been running for literally 14 months or something in total. Yeah, and it was new for me actually to run while pregnant because obviously even though I've have three children previous to Toby I didn't run so I just, you know just carried on the pregnancy is normal and but but with Toby because I was into running I was like, do you know what I'm going to continue it and and see how I get on it was almost like an experiment obviously a safe experiment. Yes. I checked with you my health visitor and doctors and when I had my scans, I was like it you know is this okay. Are you sure and the general consensus? I found was that if you've been running before you're pregnant so your body is used to it then you're okay. Yeah, your body is so clever. It will tell you if it's not enjoying it. I'll tell you. Got a minute. This is too much and I use the term very Loosely towards the end of the pregnancy when I said that I ran like it was a shuffle. Yes, it definitely like shuffling down the road because I consider myself quite a bouncy Runner, but I could not dance with you know, this my little Beefcake inside of my tell me. He was such a big baby why like felt like a big baby? So it was more of a shuffle but I had this bump strap that I wore probably between like six and no I'm going to say for four to seven months in like the mid months of being pregnant because actually it didn't fit me in the last months. And actually it was too tight and it was too uncomfortable the strap was and I thought gosh am I cutting off the circulation so I didn't wear it then and I don't need a shuffle anyway, so yeah, and it was fine and I did. This is my body and I stayed local so I stayed around my parkour I'd stay just in case anything did happen that was untoward. And then actually I knew it's time to stop because on the last time I ran I did end up walking because I got really strong Braxton Hicks which are like false contractions. Basically. I knew I was you know, I always had them with the babies and you know, Toby was overdue all of them were overdue, so I didn't think oh my goodness. I'm going to go into labor, but I did go. Yeah, this is my body saying just go home and relax Lizzie. And when I went home the Braxton Hicks would continue after I stopped exercising and for me that was the signal to say it is time to stop for me personally, and that was at 30 weeks and that was fine because I just got to just chill out then as you do what as much as you can with the other children around before baby was born. Mmm. So, yeah, so it was if I Enjoyed it. And actually I find that I recovered much quicker from having to be like fitness-wise that I did with any of my others. So I do feel like staying active while pregnant is definitely a positive and when yeah, I remember you saying that and did you who did you get advice from like obviously you seen your GP and then I'm assuming the Midwife was it like who specifically and you know, when you are asked about the running like what was their reaction? What do they tell you? What did they advise you to do? Or not to do so when I saw it was the Midwife first and I spoke to her and she asked me if I did exercise. That's how yeah, I do quite a bit of running and then I just got onto the subject of is it okay to still burn and then she said absolutely and she told me that she's had other mums who are pregnant running and that obviously maybe feel much more ease that this wasn't, you know, alien and it is okay and then I just pretty much asked every time as it Hello kay at my still. Okay, you're not. You know, I'm not doing anything silly and I'm listening to my body and taking it pretty easy. And and then I asked the stenographer when I had the scan and they said yeah, of course, it's fine and I think yeah and for me I thought yeah. Well it must be okay, then, you know that they're dealing with pregnant women on a daily basis and ones that run to so it's okay. It was actually more the people around me my family and friends who were like it. It's okay. Are you sure? Yeah, and it was actually them that pose the question a bit more than the health professionals. Yeah, and you will find yeah that people are a bit like oh, what are you crazy? Hmm? Yeah, I can imagine because I've seen reactions of that or like, you know witnessed it and like I always think you know when it comes to time where you know, I decide to have children I died, you know so long as I'm healthy and happy and I get to go ahead I would want to still continue running because well, I think I think in a way like obviously The health professionals that yeah, it was fine. I think sometimes if your if your body so used to exercise you do it regularly in a way. You're you're almost not my fiance more in danger. But like your body needs it like you can't just just stop just like that. You know, I mean like crazy. Yeah your body so used as your mind and you probably needed those feel-good endorphins, you know, the stress release tension release in order to be happy and healthy for your baby. Yeah. It was lovely. Lee we loved it, I loved being a pregnant Runner and and showing off burnt and be like whoohoo, but it was it was people who they take a second glance at you and be like that was she pregnant you see people's faces. Yeah, and they're a bit like, oh, it's a safe. Yeah, but yeah, but I mean what proof is in the pudding really because I've I've had Toby and I'm running at the moment on my journey. This is it's the best I've run at this time and and he's healthy and he's happy and he was Healthy hard water birth was Toby and yes, it's been lovely so far. So proof, really that it can be. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, that's good. I like that and you know, you won't, you know, you went long after having Toby that you were back out there put your trainers on and go and again because I think you would have six weeks. Obviously we mentioned this earlier was it was six weeks postpartum when you did the Cardiff was 77 bridge last right? Of course you are because Carlos are sober. And yes in six so six weeks postpartum, you know haven't had Toby and you're back out and you're doing the Seven Bridge half marathon with your sister wasn't it? And that one? Yeah. My husband used to fund your husband. Yeah little Cameo that one memory. It was nice. Although he will agree with this. I never actually run with him. So I saw much started as like, yeah. I'm going to see where the finish it not in not in. A nasty way, but we just don't tend to run together. I think we do each other's heads in a little bit. So we're just kind of parted ways and he was having some chafing going on. So it was having some problems and I think he was just getting in the zone and I think I might be in annoy him a little bit. So I that's kinda we just parted ways but we saw each other at the end and that was that was really lovely went under a tree in the pouring rain to kind of try and you know shelter. Yeah and Enjoy that. Yeah, it was it was this all good fun, isn't it? It is and how did that one feel that race there? And like I'll see you took it slower. I would a cannoli. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it would have done in Cardiff. I think that yeah. Oh gosh. Yeah. So because I went I was started running again after Toby. It was literally like 14 days and it was 14 days. There's me thinking like you just kind of went like well, I don't know. I don't know what I was thinking. I couldn't really because initially like when I read other okay, six weeks postpartum doing a half miles and I thought you were like, I don't know what I thought I didn't really think your new leaks after having to be in your running again. Oh, I know I did. It was a nice Pace. It was literally like like I checked it on mice traffic as I was like, I better check those to check em, right. It's like an 857 pace and and it's like my space that's like for me that's study. That was that is not like that. That's that was a stead. It was steady and I just went on my park again. Kept it local kept it safe and I did like five for five miles and then kept it for five miles up until I think I don't know that I might have done a 10-miler but I can't remember if I did and then I did the half marathon for the selling bridge. I think that was one hour 42 Again check that but I had towards the end of that. I was getting a bit wet soggy and we the bridge you go back over the bridge at the end of The Seven Bridge half marathon and the bridge seemed to go on for ever and I thought I listen. I'm going to pick up this pace. He I've got to get to the end but I felt okay. I've actually completely digress. The question if felt okay, it did legs were a bit sore pelvic floor like pretty terrible. But yeah, it felt it felt good to be back out there and it's muscle memory, isn't it? They would just kind of like, oh guys, you know, we're back in the game. Now. She says we got to start running again. Let's carry on going so and so yeah, it felt good and morale was good on that day. The rain didn't dampen our Spirits at all because there was like a little Professor running and it was really lovely yet. And it's pretty nice event. It is a nice event 7 Bridge half you don't get masses of people tuning up and it's nice to start on the bridge. It's a lovely View and it's just good supporting. Yeah, it's nice apart from that Hill. I mean that Hills not nice. Yeah. I caught a can imagine. I think I know some of doing it this year actually. Yes it August isn't it? So, yeah, it's a hot month, isn't it for a half marathon - if we have if we continue to have the weather we've had Had Fairly high wave. Yeah, I'm sure because I got to make that hard time getting this right now because I've got a friend doing Patel got a friend doing Seven Bridges. But remember which one is which anyway is yeah for you even that six weeks after like I kind of two weeks after haven't told her you were like able to run for 5 miles. I can't like I can't imagine being able to do that. So I hope like not that you know, everyone's different thing as you had had three children before and obviously stayed active during the pregnancy with Toby which like you A tribute, you know that that helped and supported you in your come back with your Fitness after having to be so, you know, perhaps like you said the proof is in the pudding and maybe you know that really did have yeah, I think I think it did I think just keeping up with it. And so it was May the 21st. I believe with my last run and then I had him July the 7th and then I was back out two weeks after that. So it was really maybe six weeks. Now or forever clearly. My math is terrible that was about you from your last run to your first one after having them. Yeah, so it's not too. Yeah, it's I mean, obviously I lost a lot of Fitness in general over the pregnancy. But but yeah, definitely, you know, it could have felt worse and I do consider myself really lucky to be able to just almost bounce back. They would say perhaps yeah, I do feel really lucky because you know, I had quite a smooth pregnancy a smooth birth. And yeah, and for that reason I think that's why maybe the recovery was so quick perhaps, you know, yeah. When did you decide that you wanted to train for the marathon? Oh, well, I I entered the London ballot and code. Yeah, I didn't get in. Obviously. I mean, let's face it. The chances are very slim, but I was pretty desperate to do a marathon and I thought on London would be Able, but I didn't get in I thought okay, that's fine. What I'll do is I'll look for a local one. And so I decided to do so nicely because obviously that is relatively local to me. And what's nice about the Nettie is that it's to core two laps of the same course, which is mentally quite hard. However, and it's along the coast and it is it's a very pretty marathon. It's really beautiful and the support is great and it's just lovely. Chili, so I'm glad I signed up to it. But that was initially what it was the fact that I didn't get into London. It made me go right? What else can we do and I tried I tried that one. Yeah because I have done a couple of the half marathons in clinically. So I've done part of that group that they do. Yeah. So when a down that Millennium yeah Coastal path that's been is like I said, it's got lovely View and you know Scenic and what have you but sometimes on that ripped it can be Really hard because it's right on the coast windy. You can get serious headwinds. Yeah, and I can be really really hard. I mean, it's cool. So positive that it's cool. It's like not in like a bit upsetting here. It can be really hot if it is, you know if the weather is warm, but yeah, it can be hard with the wind. Yeah, no not it was in was it was tough? And actually I got to like mile 17 18 and I was like, this is horrifying that it's a batter your bat. The literally against the elements and so yeah, it was it was a battle against against the winds. The nice thing was and like some of them I've done it wasn't heart. Like you said, it was really cool. So at least it wasn't heat and wind his onesie half for example, it was just it was it was cool. But that headwind was tough to push against especially in the latter Miles when you really had to dig deep. You're like, come on. Give me a break, but you know, what as I say A it doesn't last that pain doesn't last, you know the mouth and will end and you will end with it. So that's what kept me going. Yeah. To you like with regards to that marathon is signing up to that. I'm trying to wake us up my head because you would have had the results of London in October 2018 when Toby would have been Reckless out. Now seven turn Cordia me gosh, three or four months. So you'd you must have entered the ballot while you were still pregnant with Toby. Yeah. Yeah, I did me and my tits none of us ever get it. So so yeah, I mean luckily I you know the marathon time that I have if it's not good for a it if it's not a championship, obviously, they haven't released the times yet for Championship, but it is usually under 315 and because it was 312 it could. A championship pain start but if not perhaps good for age. I'm just desperate for London. So I'm sure it is good for a yeah, I think it is good for Aid. Yeah, because good french Court London is yeah. I think it went down a bit. I will look it up now. Yeah. Yes. Oh, I can't believe that. Well, I did you all enter it there and your family. Yeah. We did. I'm obviously not my mum and dad and but me my sister's my other brother in law and he and Ben we all entered in were like, yeah, let's do it and not one of us got in. So it takes a while. I think I know someone who's entered at times. I know so I thought right. Well if I'm not going to get in the ballet, I'm just gonna have to work hard to do it in a good. Yeah, you are right. I thought it was I thought they'd brought it down a bit no good for age for women between 18 and 39 is 345 as you said, you've literally like you've got no worries with that one. So if you You just just wait and now technically on the championship level that isn't it see if you can get an answer to that because that would be really exciting. Actually. It's literally like that was so that that is my goal. Like that is my my dream not only to do with London Marathon. Yeah to do it in the year 2020 because it just sounds good doesn't it but you can t turns it but to start in the championship pay my mean like that. Is it for me that is what dreams are made of I'd like that just That would just be the icing on the cake for me. I'm just going to soak it all up and just enjoy it and know that I you know, I've worked to get there and I've earned it and I really want serve three. So I mean what happens on the day will happen, you know, but at least I know that I've worked I've grafted to even get there to begin and I'm yeah, well hopefully fingers crossed. Let's wait and see. Yeah because it was Dean or 2019 so let's wait and see. Yes exactly. So they bring it down to three or ten. That's that's you know, maybe good for age instead. Yeah, but I'm you've well the odds are looking good. I can't anyway one thing is if you get if even if he does good for a jet still at you know, great are still incredible. Like I'm still they're still at the money, but you might as well book your hotel because you've definitely got good for it. You should while It's cheaper. I know but you don't know that you still just don't know. It's one of those things isn't it? You think or you know all the Masters that could be good for age and they make just like cut, you know cut loads of people and say hello. So so I'll wait. I'm just going to wait eagerly anticipating its yeah. Yeah. I just and I can't I can't get over that you you literally debut to Martha and 312 of the more. It's just in saying I want to know like when you're trained for that first marathon, how on Earth Did you manage because you you run so Lizzie run the great Welsh marathon and lastly it would have been April and I'm pretty sure it's two weeks. It was a week. Was it a week before London? No, Tilly's before London's always the last weekend in April this year. It's like weeks two weeks before. Okay, right. So I'm Toby would have been like as we said nine months. So your trainer in lips. Really started it I'm assuming you started training in the October in the Autumn or was it a bit after that? No, it was I did my yeah, and it was definitely and I did my first 20 mile are in December and then it kind of went from there really so I was obviously training during the week and I did overall up into the marathon. I did seven twenty mile long runs. I didn't I didn't do any longer than 20 I also did which I highly recommend Anyone training for a marathon I did a race which was 20 miles exactly. So that was called Saint Dominique. Oh, which is running clip. Yeah, a lot of people do Gloucester 20 as well, which is really popular. But I did the the sand on which was really good actually because that was let me look at the date for that. That was March the 24th and my Marathon was April the 12th. So that was a good three weeks before my Marathon. So it was good to actually go right where Where am I training? Like how well can I run 20 miles out what we call Race pace. So yeah, so I learned a lot from that I learn a lot from that because I started off standard. I started off too fast. And then the latter half was a bit slower and I did think or I've not got much left in me, but I did it in 2 hours 27 the 20 miles and I was really pleased with that. I saw some yeah, like I was Replaced and it was really good for me just to kind of gauge where I was after training since December, you know before the marathon, you know, you do you think it's all a lot well and good running these long runs slow. But how are you going to handle it when you've actually got to do it at what you consider race Pace almost in it for me. Anyway personally because I want to do it at a race pace. So yeah, it was good to see where I was. I'm doing that for your first marathon, I mean How do you what time did you have in your head? What were you aiming for I wanted to do and so I did an A B and C. So my CI start see was three hours 30. Yeah, my be was then three hours 25 or like three hours 23 or something like that and then them in my head. I didn't want to tell anybody this but my a was like 3 hours 15 it was in my head, but obviously I told everybody I'd really like to do SUB 3:30 because then they you know, I wouldn't I wouldn't feel like I've let myself down because I wouldn't have told me but but but yeah in my head I was thinking if I work hard and if I really, you know, grit my teeth and and do it. I think I might be able to do 315 my might so when I did 312 I couldn't believe like I literally couldn't believe it that chromatic literally again just goes to show that I think. If you did, I don't think you might be starting to realize it now, but you obviously didn't realize what you had in your ability because if you're if you're seagulls 3:30 and even your a girl's 3:15, and then you get three twelve, that's just I mean in your first ever ever Marathon, that's absolutely amazing. It's yes, it's very very just well I didn't I'm speechless. I think it's amazing. I couldn't believe it. You know what? I really couldn't believe it and I'm not just saying that I rang my husband and the moment I got out of the the little pain at the end that you know you but you go down that the pain and you know, how did you do? You know, we've been working up to this day for a long time my first marathon, how did you do? How did you get on I said yeah, I came second. And the first thing he said was it if I know you came second I would have come mentioned that yet record. Year because you came second. Yeah, honestly, I couldn't I could not believe it and I told nobody to care miles like guys, it's freezing. I don't want the kid standing there miserable for three hours because they're you know, they're cold and you know, they only see me for a couple of times running back and forth and that, you know, I just thought no, please stay at home and enjoy and I'll just let you know when I'm done and I'll see you when I get home. And I you know, it was incredible it with the feeling was. Credible it. Honestly, it is a massive part of you know, my running Journey for me and I will never ever forget it. It's made a huge impact on me and and the people around me as well and what especially my children like I couldn't wait to show them the trophy I get was so lovely and even the medal silver medal. Usually you crossed the line and you get the standard model that you get for doing a half. She got, you know, the actual silver second. One and the thing is that for you like literally you you were two years into you're running two years and getting seconds lady and like when you think and this is no disrespect but they would have been you know, because of your age like with the open, you know, it's quite hard isn't it? Because you would have been kept against couple of ladies who would have been, you know a little bit younger than you really hard. Definitely. Definitely the the Who came first was amazing and she was even part of a running club. She just ran for herself, which so absolute utmost respect. She was a good I think she was like nine minutes in front of me. So I just think oh my goodness gracious like hats off to you. She was young she would I mean that that's when place that I will never like I will always be beaten. Sorry is you know aged, I can't be aged not that just because she was young. She was good like she was an incredible run. Now so yeah, that was just an example of one of the amazing people running it on that day. It was the last three miles that I just I just went for it. It was I just kind of broke way you tease. Yeah, you you just said you couldn't that's one thing. You can't beat his age, but you did because if you came second there's a lot of people who came after you you did ba. You're right. You're right. Yeah, you know what? I just I think it's because you know, I don't know I think you tend to feel old even though I'm 33, and I'm not even you know, I'm not considered old but people a lot of people do make comments and they're like, oh, oh so you started running now like like at this age kind of thing. So you kind of get the impression that that your you aren't you are. Our old are you know the Young Generation these the the Juniors that are doing, you know, the junior parkrun who are absolutely astounding by the way. I mean, they're incredible and they're so young. They are so young. So yeah, I get it I get it. So I'm that that is something that I felt like I just couldn't compete with but I guess it's not all about physical strength sometimes now, I do think a lot a lot of running as about mental strength. Don't even you know, I don't even know who I was passing on the last bit of that Marathon. I just I just hit my head. I was just using every bit of mental strength. I had it was like it was almost as if I was just picturing that finish line and everything around me was almost a blur. I wasn't even looking at all the ladies or anything like that. I was passing. I didn't even think I'd ever dream of being second lady. I didn't think I could so I was just running for my life and and just going for it. And it was yeah, it was amazing. How amazing is Lizzie Story So Far like, oh, I like every time I listen to it and think about it. It's still even now I've just I just find it incredible. So that's part one stay tuned in few days for part 2. We're Lizzie goes on to talk about how she managed to fit in the training while having four kids. And Toby being so young the compromise and balance required with a busy Family Life how she fit the training around work again the essentials to the marathon training why she wouldn't compare yourself to others about getting her first injury prior to the great Welsh marathon and how she overcame this how she kept yourself motivated what girls mini girl she used. in order to improve and build on a fitness the biggest lesson she learned during that marathon and the price you paid how she was able to bounce back after him hours and debut and which was a Podium finish Lizzie's next big girl and Challenge and why Lizzie started documenting her running story on Instagram who inspires her and her reason and purpose to run part 2 is just as good as the first part so you are going You want to catch this and if you subscribe then it will download automatically as soon as that one has become available. 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Part 1. [Links Available Below] Lizzie Dimond, a Wife, mother of four, a drama teacher, club member of Lliswerry Runners in Newport, and I have to say a very SPEEEDY runner. Lizzie started running in 2017, just 7 months into her running Journey and having gone through an incredibly tough time with her family, Lizzie went on to run her first Half Marathon in an incredible 1:35, despite having no time goal! Lizzie would go on to fall pregnant with her fourth child, and continue to run during her pregnancy and bounced back after the pregnancy really quickly! Lizzie would then go on to run a half marathon shortly after giving birth, and incredibly decided to train for her first marathon whilst only a couple months postpartum. Lizzie ran the Great Welsh Marathon April 2019 and came 2nd Lady, in her DEBUT MARATHON- completing in a crazy time of 3:12:04. Me and Lizzie chatted so much running that I’ve put together a Part 1 & 2…to this Episode. Stay tuned for such an incredibly inspiring story. Lizzie’s enthusiasm just beams loudly through her voice and it was a joy to catch up with her. What to Expect in Part 1: About Lizzie, what she does for a living Biggest Challenges she faces as being a mother, and a mother of four, wife and marathoner  Why and how she was able to accept the incessant fatigue of running, marathon training and being a mumHow she started running How receiving awful news within the family affected her, but also was a catalyst for Lizzie and her running journey and how it changed her perspective in life How I try my best to convince Lizzie she IS Fast  Lizzie’s current weekly training plan  Lizzie running through her fourth pregnancy up to 38 weeks Why she attributes her strong comeback postpartum to training during her pregnancy How she felt returning to running after her pregnancy  How she completed a half marathon just 6 weeks postpartum and completing just 7 minutes slower than her previous PB Lizzie’s Big Dream / Goal for next year How her Marathon training started 3.5 months after having Toby  What Lizzie’s A, B and C Goals were going into the Great Welsh Marathon Links:  Lizzie’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/runnerof4/ Lliswerry Runners  https://www.instagram.com/lliswerryrunners/  Run1 ’s Elevated Energy - 10 Day Free Trial https://www.run1.co.uk/pages/vitality-nataliehawkins  Natalie - Not Another Runner Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/notanotherrunner/ Blog: https://notanotherrunner.home.blog/  Easy Thrills Podcast  https://anchor.fm/easythrills Interview with Easy Thrills Podcast https://anchor.fm/easythrills/episodes/Natalie-Hawkins---Not-another-runner-e488pg 