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So I'm just going to be sitting in the rain watching the incredible SMU Mustangs take on the FAU. Oh, wow, I think they're a panther or now. If I UFA you always get them mixed up. I think it's a panther. That's it. I've go lay in their final Lane kiffin is old-school. FAU is taking on SMU on Saturday on ABC at 3:30. I'll be a field analyst just sitting there in the rain absolutely enjoying the hell out of college football while incredible NFL games are taking place on Saturday. Let's go through that list of James thinks we are starting. The one o'clock game is Houston at Tampa Bay. I believe the line is 3 Houston is minus 3, I am correct. Okay that a boy proud of you. The Houston Texans are going to win this game only because I feel like this the Tampa Bay Buccaneers have an incredible coaching staff right now that coaching staff just so happen to be with me at the Indianapolis Colts for a long time. Yes, Bruce Arians is going to get the acknowledgement Clyde. Christensen is a miracle worker with quarterback sets there with Jameis Winston. I think Jameis Winston by all accounts. Had his best year of this year. I think that anybody could have fathomed and digs will get into an entire segment here about how he feels the Tampa Bay Buccaneers should treat him but Clyde Christensen work with Peyton Manning for a long time Andrew Luck for a long time. He got run out of the building by a former GM and now he's down there in Tampa. He was in Miami. I guess he didn't do great with Tannehill under gaze. But he really feels like this is almost there swan song this group of coaches down here in Tampa, and they've been turning it around but in Bruce Arians offense, you have to have weapons you have to have Deep play receivers that can make plays in this weekend. I believe Mike Evans and God winner both out both Provo receivers. I believe are both which is very difficult in an offense that relies heavily on your wide receivers making big plays for you. So for that reason and that reason alone, even though the Tampa Bay defense has been playing much better than I think anybody could have expected. I think Houston gets a win in which they need to win. By the way. They lose the Tennessee Titans are right back in this thing for a week 17 matchup. That's massive for the AFC South. I think we'd want that. But for me, I feel like Houston wins this game strictly because of those Injuries now going forward to Tampa Bay Buccaneers have to make a decision with Jameis Winston. He's currently on his contract here. What would you do anything need to go? Yo in your mind if you were for some reason, I don't know how it would happen. But let's say for some reason do your job you were placed in charge of an NFL team. What would you do if Jameis Winston was your quarterback with what he's shown thus far in the NFL? I think they paid him is I think they keep him and I think they pay them do I think they pay him 35 to 40 like the top-tier quarterbacks are getting right now like like Dax gonna get like Drew Brees is Up there getting things are going to get things like that. No, but if you find a sweet spot like Jacoby percent just got 27 million a year for two years. Yeah, Nick Foles got like 25 million a year for three years Derek Cars Getting like 25 27 million. If you can find a sweet spot around their necks about how hilarious it is, by the way a man. It's like considered a good deal like for the team like hey, if you could pay him only like twenty three to twenty eight million dollars a year for six months. Real work. That's probably a good deal for you. And that is just mine. Now. It's nothing compared to the baseball country days. We'll catch up to the next level but these quarterbacks. This is a now this is kind of what we've been saying right where if you have a rookie quarterback on a rookie deal. You have a chance to build your team up around. We'll talk about the Rams here in a second. That's what the Rams that's when the Rams crash when they had to pay golf who was no longer on his rookie contract. He had to get paid which means you can't pay everybody including offensive lineman, which has been a big problem for them. And I thought that the new blueprint for Success would be Rookie quarterbacks build them all up build up the team around them. Then you can really make a play when have played good team football. The Rams did it the Seahawks it with a legion of boom in a you haven't really seen a lot of teams other than the Tom Brady's and Peyton Manning's and Aaron Rodgers is and now the Russell Wilson's and I would assume Lamar Jackson is going to be this way as well in Patrick Mahomes. There's only a couple quarterbacks up there that can win games by themself. Like hey these guys you put them on a field they will win games by themselves. All the other quarterbacks that are good but not great. I think you have to as a GM and as a team be willing to pay them like, okay and as a quarterback, I think they should be a little bit more accountable in there how good they are and say like, you know what? I don't think I want to screw over my entire team by taking 45 percent of the salary cap. I'll take 20 million a year which by the way generational wealth. Even after Uncle Sam gets it 10 million a year there for five years. That's 50 million dollars you're getting for your family and yourself. You can live like me and have a great time. Like that and I am very rapid very recommended by you can live a hilarious life and still be good with that. But it's going to take something with the nflpa their agents and everything dial that in do you think Jameson will be able to say you know, what? Yeah, I will take a much smaller price than what everybody else is getting just so I can continue have a job or do you think his agent and if I'll Pierre can say you can't do that because if you take this smaller deal that means the next next quarterbacks are have take a small deal. Yeah me saying this all is me thinking that Jamis will realize that he has not been a top-tier quarterback for His inhaler Jane has been a self-aware person yellow exact know if he's known for one thing. It's making great decisions. All right self-awareness. I think he looks at himself. Maybe his agent gets talk to me. Like hey you have to do to the top 10 receivers easily in the league right? Now. You got this new coaching staff in Bruce Arians. He's molded Roethlisberger and luck. And Carson Palmer. You guys are on a four-game win streak. So he's only quarterback in the history going back to back with 450 yards. Yeah. I mean, it's he's leading the league in yards and I believe Police stations and he's second in touchdowns behind Lamar Jackson First and picks. Yes first and picks. I'm that is the one thing but like no risk it no biscuit pilot ever said that my health that might help with the contract the oceans and the Caps going up. So it's like hey if you could get them in that 25 to 28 range sweet spot, and and also by the way, you pay the offense of line which in the Bruce Arians offense you need because that's a lot of seven-step drops. It's a lot of whole he's going deep with that thing and if you could build up an offensive line there, maybe he's a much better. Much and they don't they don't pick till 17. So it's not like you're probably not getting a stud quarterback in right away. So with all this offense of talent around at least, you know, you have a guy who can make all the throws. He's going to make some dumb decisions, but maybe you could get him out you running that's what her cat you sound like the guys. I am who people thought was the GM's ghost account. That's not what the term is burner. Thank you sensing Jameis Winston how the media ruin the start of a Hall of Fame football career. Yeah. I mean, I do contribute that By the way to add me that last week, I felt pretty good about it. Yeah. Well, they're going to meet you again after hearing this they got there. I don't know I just and there's like who else is out there like it maybe if you get Teddy like if you could get Teddy like if he doesn't go with the Saints if they decide to save Drew maybe but like James can make ever thrown Bruce Arians offense. That's what you need. I don't think but if you his stats this year forget the pics like I think to his agent and to him that's going to dictate like hey, I deserve 35 million. I deserve 40 million. I threw for 5,000 yards this year. It goes back to what you just mentioned it like If they give him all this money their defense stinks, okay, they need to shore up that big time their lines. Not that great. Yeah, they have incredible receivers and Jameis. He doesn't stink. I mean he's in that middle tier but he's not one of those Elite guys. If you give him that Max contract guess what they're gonna go eight and eight or seven and nine for the next four to five years like if area is what they do, but exactly if Aryans is as good of a coach is we all think he is then why not like franchise Jamis next year, maybe pick up someone in the drafts and then France has a lot of money it is it is Least you're not commit. You're not pot committed for the next five to six years. You know, I would love to see James have a little self-awareness and realize that he's not going to get that 40 to 50 million dollars. Yeah, but I also going to get and just be like, yeah, I'm OK taking 15 to 20 million. I'ma build up this team. Let's have a good time here Bruce Arians took that job because of Jameis Winston. He's known him since high school. So I think Jameson Bruce probably have a very good relationship, which is good news for all parties down there in Tampa. They've showed they've shown signs of success if they have to draft another quarterback again another quarterback. It's a Whole new rebuild in Bruce's offense, but if you find a guy that can throw the ball and you don't have to pay him. You can build up the rest of that team that can be very good. I think they're going to be an interesting spot. We'd like you to know. I understand why not because they don't want to they don't have to that Tennessee game in week 17. They don't want it to mean something if they win this weekend. It does in competing against the Boca Bowl, correct, Boca ball kicks off at 3:30 this games on it for so I think it's a bad decision by the NFL to compete against the bokeh bowl on ABC at 3:30 kicking off at for is Buffalo at New England. Buffalo is Six and a half points right now in New England the over-under is at 36 and a half which was the exact same it was for the Buffalo Pittsburgh Steelers game that will obviously one under a 17-10. I think we're going to see a very similar game here. And honestly, I like I like the Buffalo Bills with the points. I even took that money line because it's plus 230 just good odds on there, but I really like Buffalo plus six and a half here and I don't think anything tells me that this is the week that the Patriots offense is going to get going. I honestly don't maybe maybe Nikki Oh Harry, and them and Josh McDaniels and Julian Edelman and the boys have gone to work and everything like that and maybe the the Pro Bowl first time missing the Pro Bowl since 2008 for Tom Brady is really put another chip on his shoulder. But nothing tells me that this is the week the offense going to get going especially after watching that Buffalo Bills defense in person last week. Yeah. I am also taking the bills but I'm not taking the money like I'm not as Brave as you I'm going to plus the six and a half. It's the 16 times the first game, right? Yep and Josh Allen got hurt and Matt Barkley came in the in the Second half I almost messed around and beat us too. I don't I can see the same thing 1316 10. I'm not I don't the Patriots offense takes the bills are 600 and one against the spread on the road. I mean those hey La cantidad Todd Todd stats back here. That is very good stats to have in your back pocket in the reason is because they've been an underappreciated team because they're winds are on national TV against teams that are like, yeah, that's him. Isn't that good? But there our defense has been such a lockdown D. They're the only ones that could contain Lamar Jackson They contained Lamar Jackson They contain Mark Ingram and it's because that defense is so damn good. I got a chance to chat with one of their do line coaches whenever we're in Pittsburgh there and just chatting with it was good catch up. He used to coach for the Colts and good dude great to to link and we adapt to each other up. I'm like, hey, this defense is truth. You said we got something like he was like Vegas like we got we feel good about it. He said they got good. Here's that also feel good about the system. We talked to Lorenzo Alexander Lorenzo Alexander and he talked about how the team knows the system right and how the team's been around each other for a long time and how they liked each other so they don't really know the play calls, but they know the why that's a massive deal. That's a massive deal to know that hey if I disguise here, I know that I'm being covered here. I can do this. I can mess around do this. They're very comfortable Sean McDermott and the Buffalo Bill. I don't know how the Buffalo Bills had this much patience with Sean McDermott, but it's going to it looks like it's paying off. Off in this weekend would be massive for bills Mafia to go into New England and get a win and I'm not saying it's going to happen. I'm just saying the odds are plus 2:30 right now if you want to put money on the money line, but man that would be another celebration at the airport with another selfie going in the museum if they get this win, I'm excited to see because this is the first time in probably a long long time that the Patriots play a meaningful division game in December, like if if they lose they have to beat Miami Beach 17, which Ryan Fitzpatrick, I don't want to miss every hillbilly Ryan Fitzpatrick week 17 got nothing to play for wait to see what he's doing his body. He's gonna run his face right into Calvin noise helmet while throwing a ball. I mean that's a Ryan Fitzpatrick does in the bills have a chance to do that Flores would love to win that game to shove it right back in there my storyline for no. I'm not gonna say well, maybe I know where you're going and it's it's possibility, huh? Flores in the Dodge or lay down. Don't say that. Don't say that Gump. He's not gonna be happy with you saying that ends up pal. That's a good game. I won't be able to watch it till afterwards but know that if if that game gets boring if Buffalo just blows New England out so fast though that the Pokéballs going on that maybe see I'm on the sideline and I have no idea what I'm allowed to do and what I'm not allowed to do so look for me to potentially get kicked out early so I could catch the game as well. We'll see how that goes. I'm a field analyst. What does that mean? What the hell does that mean? Really? I was I was rejected from the broadcast Boot Camp 3 times. I've no idea what field analyst means I if I'm doing Molly McGrath has I have no shot. I just what she does is so impressive like she has to but like but her way into things eavesdrop get information kind of relay it to the producer which relays it to the Spy. It's like an entire operation. I want to like I'm not gonna I don't have that much effort in me. If they reckon let me answer. Where am I I'll just stay here. Then I don't give a damn. I think she's technically a sideline reporter and I don't know what the difference in terms of Distinction is between a field like a field analyst and a side letter C Tony Siragusa those islands. That's what I'm doing this. Hey Pat. What are you seeing down there as fat guy just stands down here. I think you might do some reporting. Maybe I have no idea, but you're more just like a like a A third guy but down on the food food. Just what you're seeing on the field. Yeah easy, but this is the XFL crew by the way, it's Tom Hart. Yep, Joey Galloway nice and myself this we're doing the XFL games now with the XFL though. They told me I have unprecedented access. So I'm allowed to do whatever the hell I want. I don't think that's how college football works. Like, I don't think I'm allowed to just run into the Huddle like I'm gonna be doing the except probably not I'm not so sure. I'm a lot of just throw a microphone in the west face what the hell just happened there pal you who are you field analyst It's gonna be an interesting Saturday Joe. Yahweh can pick some college gate. Yeah, he's really good at I know he was hot to hear him and Jesse Palmer exhaust are very very hot. It just like Michael Lombardi to I think these people had don't actually bet it but pick it. I think they are the ones you need list because they have zero skin in the game. It's like this is what we think we're doing it whenever you start putting your actual money on the line now great. I've been on a heater here for like the last seven weeks which feels very good. I don't think college football though because I don't know the crap shoot. Well, I don't know what the student here. And athletes are going to do you you don't know what they're going through. You don't know if they have a test. They just failed a relationship that just ended anything that could have possibly happened the NFL. I feel like you can kind of predict much more like hey who's going to show up who's not going to show up but college football is that's why people love it, by the way, because you have no idea what's going to happen except for some teams like Ohio State, you know, they're going to be incredible. You know that Clemson Trevor Lawrence going to show up. You know, Joey Borough who had no idea this year was coming. There's no way Joe burrow whenever he decided to transfer knew that all this was going to happen. I'm happy for him though. Oh, yeah. Hella happy for that guy in Oklahoma's got a couple people suspended. So let's assume they were going to lose by 20 before that. Another got a couple players suspended. Let's assume that's a 40-point blow out there for Oklahoma. No offense. You're just not it's not their fault. It's just the way it goes. But everybody else in cultural. You have no idea what's going to happen. No clue. What's going to happen? I bet all 40 games yesterday official made all my picks. Did you get it or did you just make up I put money in on them smart man. You have Christmas gifts. Come look for desperate digs. Aspiration digs here soon. All right in the last game Los Angeles Rams at San Francisco. San Fran has to win this if they would like to have home-field advantage in the playoffs. They're coming off a big loss last week the LA Rams. Are they going to just they got pounded by the cowboy? They did you still got a chance though pound through the ramps. Yeah, if they win against the Niners in Cardinals in The Vikings lose against the Packers and Bears. Ran's got a chance both possible things by the way all Is a very possible thing. So Sean McVeigh can get his boys to believe that after getting pounded by the Dallas Cowboys. What a big time game all three of these games matter mmm, but so does the polka but that's right. I mean, are you kidding me with this? Why does this happen? Why do they gotta put the NFL on Saturday in the bow Kabul on Saturday? And I'm there. I mean the bubbles going to be electric. Yeah. Oh, yeah, it's always it's always talks for itself points Galore Point. Wow, the crowds of electric huge retirement. Booty down there. I think they're gonna bust in all of the retirement communities decent weather a lot of good STDs in the crowd. That's what they do. They do that from what I've been told there's retirement communities are just a big porn hub there ASAP Rocky forays abroad is a proxy had a sex tape leaked here within the last 12 hours and Nick you watched it. Did watch it. He's just getting absolutely roasted online for guy. I guess even have a great performance bad for him. It was very casual and you can't do that. If you're gonna have a sex tape leaked, but I'll be putting on a show. I'm assuming he didn't know this was coming, right the real question is why are you filming it? If you're said he felt her. Yeah the way it's shot. 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They're all the pieces seem to be in place this year in they're not winning last year. I mean nobody's going to say they had a great roster, but Hugh wasn't able to win there. Nobody's been able to win their it's been said that you haven't coaching the NFL until you've been fired from Cleveland. This man has he's been out of the game for a year now did have some media Stuff it's been rumored that he's going back to Arizona State to help out with Marvin Lewis and Herm Edwards who have done a great job with that team in the desert. Can't wait to chat about hard knocks and everything like that. Do we have them on ladies and gentlemen joining us now former head coach and multiple places Hugh Jackson. What's up, buddy? How you doing here? I have a question for you. How why is it? Why is it so hard to win in Cleveland. Now, I will say this you you obviously did not have a great record there, but everybody thought with you gone with a talent in This year with a whole new team that there could be able to win and it just hasn't been able to happen is the place cursed you is the place curse. I'm not gonna say his curse, but you said it I think that's just been the history has been several coaches way before me and now there's been a coach after me that hasn't won their so I'm not going to say it's in the walls or anything like that. I just think at some point in time. Somebody will be good enough to take it to another level. I hope it happens because I think the fans deserve it but you're right. There's a lot of code. Has that have gone there that haven't done well, and they've left their and when done great jobs. Okay. So did you did you enjoy the Hard Knocks being a part of your because I think hard not it's already hard enough to win in the NFL especially in Cleveland, especially when you maybe hadn't had a winning season in the past couple years. Then you add in potential drama with HBO. I did not think that Hard Knocks did a great job of making you and the entire thing look good. It's almost like they were building up a story line. Do you regret that Hard Knocks was in there? Your last year as a head coach of Cleveland and I don't I mean I know a lot of people have said just what you said. I don't regret it because I know what we as an organization was trying to accomplish. I really thought that it was going to make us be at our best all the time. I think it's couple ways to look at it and mine in my mind. We were a loss averse organization that had more on a lot. So we needed to be put in our best in the best situations. We could be in to be at our best all the time. So when the season came we hit the ground running Running, you know because normally guys don't want to be embarrassed when they're on TV guys don't want to do something that all of a sudden people will make fun of and I wasn't worried about what the storyline was about me. I understand the scene that everybody thought was a big deal, but I would think if people know football and I know you do pad that ice discussed all that stuff about how we were going to practice players how we're going to do players way before that episode. So I thought it was really really it was really difficult for me to think that we're even having a conversation in that meeting. Yeah, obviously what you're referring to is you and Todd Haley talking about who's who was going to play and who wasn't going to play in practice. It's just it felt like everybody had this image about the Cleveland Browns and then HBO almost was like, alright, everybody knows what to think about it the Cleveland Browns. How do we make it look like this completely dysfunctional franchise another felt like they did that it felt like they did that in for you. I didn't know anything about you but watching and I'm like man this guy is either not deserving of the head coach job or the HBO. People are reading this in a fashion to make him look bad because showing a beef between a head coach and assistant coach is just specifically trying to make you look bad because that happens everywhere. No doubt. Yeah, no doubt. Now that part I do agree with that. Yeah, because it happens everywhere. I mean, this is something happens in the NFL if there's beef and that happens and them showing it the way they did. I thought they made you look bad. Hmm. I appreciate that. Hey, no problem. Okay, so let's move forward and what is this year off been for you? I have you. I don't know man. This been the first time off in 32 years. It's been rediscovered a lot of things my family. Some foremost and found some other things out in the world that I like, you know got involved in a tequila business grandly and the tequila it is unbelievable. And so I've had a great time doing that but I'm ready to get back on the grass. Okay. So I talked to Chuck Pagano whenever he was out of the game for a year. He said that him and his wife were going crazy, right? He was like I am been around for a long time. He said he started watching film again as if he was a coach just kind of studying the A on top of it. He couldn't wait to get back into coaching. I assume the same things happening for you is Arizona State the place you're going or you're going to try to get back in the NFL Nama try to get back in NFL. I've spent a lot of time, you know at some colleges and University of Maryland obviously went down to Arizona State Penn State some other places, but I spent a lot of time with Jim Haslett who's in town. So we get a chance to watch video. I've been all around, you know the country a little bit sing football. So I'm excited about getting back in the game at the Football League level and let's go what was wrong in Cleveland? You think that people should know before they hire but for a fan base, right? So if you get hired to a team the fan base is going to be like, hey what like I said about Hard Knocks not making you look but also with the lack of success in Cleveland, what do you think went wrong? What did you learn from that situation that you'll carry into your next gig? Well the first thing I would say to any fan who's concerned about what I would do when I come is that there's been a lot of coaches before me that went to Cleveland and the somewhat the same thing happened and all of a sudden their career. Ears didn't go into tank. So give me a chance here. What I learned is that you got to do what you think is best. You know what I mean by that I should have never relinquished the offense of coordinator position of calling plays. That's how I got the job and that's what I should have done to keep the job. And I think I would have put the team in a better position to move forward and what it did a better job with putting Baker and position to have success. So I take full responsibility for that you got to do what you know, you can do and do it as As you can do it, I think if I would have done that I probably wouldn't be sitting here today. What do you think about Baker Mayfield? There's been a lot of noise outside of football with Baker Mayfield He's the best actor in the NFL. He's commercials are incredible. But anytime you do all that stuff and you don't have success automatically critics are going to come in this year. They have not had a lot of success their expectations were high not a lot of success. That's where disappointment comes flooding in but you know Baker lot better than all of us. Do what do you think? It is about Banker that maybe we either get them to bounce back after After this year failure or do you think there's going to be much more of the same? No, I think he'll bounce back. I don't when we drafted Baker number one overall the nice it on the table for it. I think the guys are tremendous football player. Now, you can see fundamentally. Maybe there are some things that he's not doing as well as he did in your one why that is I don't have that answer. I'm not there to to say but talent wise leadership wise Moxie passion for the game determination. He has all of that. Okay, and he can throw the ball with anybody so somewhere Are there is a disconnect and where that is? I think it's got to be found to get him back to being what he what he was but it's in there and they got to go find a way to get it back out of it. What type of Coach you think could bring the best out of Baker Mayfield? Oh, no, he's got to be a coach that's going to be really detailed with him a coach. That won't back down a coach that's going to push him to go be great because deep down inside that's what he wants to be. But you know how it is parents. So certain coaches are coaching some of the best players in the league. They all of a sudden don't coach. Um, yeah, okay and you can't do that. You can't do that with the great players. You got to make sure more so than anything you take your foot and put it up there. But so that's what it comes down to the make sure that they're getting done with need to get done. I would say I didn't become my best ball kicker until I had a coach in Tom McMahon challenge me every single day. I agree with that statement completely and I think Peyton Manning would even say that about Clyde Christensen other people that it's that's the new there's a new generation though. We're a lot of people say hard coaching and coaching is something that could be a thing of the past with this. Generation and how it operates do you think that could be a struggle if you get back into leak? No because I don't think that part every change if I can help a young man play at his best level as well as he can play trust me. That's what they want at the end of the day a player wants to have a chance to earn the next contract to be seen as one of the better players in the league. They're not going to run from that now, I'm just a yellow over screamer and I'm not helping them attain their goals, then it's not going to work. But if you are getting the results that you both desire then I guarantee you play. As will take that in a heartbeat where where's the place that you're like you look at the way the offense is set up and I'm not saying they'll offer you a job or the person is going to be fired. But what's a place that you think has a great set of / success in the future? If you were to be there? Why aren't you know, the the team that jumps off and like you said, this is no knock on anyhow, we're not knocking anything. We're just saying why not but what I look at the New York Giants, you know, what a Young quarterback and a great Runner. Okay, and then my mind needing a few pieces here and there I mean they have a tremendous opportunity. Need to be special when you think of the Washington Redskins Young quarterback again, you know real good offensive line another young Runner. So those things to me are important because I've learned being in this league. You better have a quarterback. If you don't have that piece. It is hard to win in to sleep. How many quarterbacks are for your Cleveland like 45th. Oh my God, once you get that p squared away and if you feel like you do as an organization that I think you can truly. We move forward as an offensive play caller what Lamar Jackson has been able to do and accomplish now granted. He's an anomaly. He's a unicorn. I don't everybody's like is he the next prototype of a quarterback? Well, if you can find another Lamar Jackson, I would assume that you should draft that person. But will you adapt your play calling to become more that style and do you see the game going that way from an offensive standpoint? And I felt absolutely I think you have to when you have a guy that's as talented as he is. I can do all the things he can do running the ball and throwing the ball you have to adapt. I think it's happened like that because there's been more college coaches that's coming to the National Football League. And so that is just kind of evolved that way but this guy is extremely talented there might not be another guy like him, but when I think of the young man, that's at Oklahoma this year. He's not probably as cat quickest is Lamar is but he's a strong Runner a good passer and a very sturdy body that you know, I think his his stock is going to rise because of what people have seen Lamar Jackson do the season. Okay. So the three quarterbacks for quarterbacks out of college and everybody's talking about is Joe burrow to Jaylin and then are bare what Herbert from Oregon if you're a guy running a team, would you take the risk on to what with how injured he has been or is Joe Borough? The guy Jalen or Herbert? The guy you think well, I think I got to go look at all of them first and foremost like you mentioned and what is the vision of the organization? What are we trying to accomplish or we going to be a team that's going to throw it all over the yard and we have those kind of receivers already and are stable or we can be a team that needs to The football to win in our we got great defense. So it really still comes down to the vision of the organization me myself. I love to have a guy that can do both because the deacons are so good in the National Football League and I think that's what you're saying Baltimore do they're able to do both things and their quarterback is so special doing both things. It makes it hard to defend. Okay. You were supposed to run the workout for Colin Kaepernick. It was this massive ordeal. That's the first time in NFL history that an entire workout has been placed. For a guy in Atlanta. The facility was opened up and I believe it's because a couple teams were interested in signing him but didn't want the backlash if they were going to sign them. So the NFL Jay-Z everybody was like, let's just have a workout and if people want to talk to him privately and see what he's got see if he's still got it. They can sign them from there. He obviously decided not to do that that workout in my eyes. I've seen I've seen him the hell out of there. My dog is growling. Sorry. I'm you normally good with dogs at my voice. I can understand it could make a little bit frustrated that work. Though I've seen players have to do workouts to make it on teams a lot of cardio a lot of conditioning to see if they can still hang and if they were to be dropped in a game right now would they be able to survive the workout? I saw him do it by himself there 60 miles away. Not a lot of cardio. Not a lot of conditioning. You're supposed to run that extra that work out. What was it going to look like and where you excited for that opportunity not only for yourself, but for Colin, I was very excited for the opportunity for myself to be picked, you know by the National Football League to lead the workout first and foremost. I was very excited to be around Colin again because I really have a lot of respect for him. I wanted to draft him when he was coming out when I was at Oakland because I thought he was very talented and I wanted to take him and showcase his talent and ability and all those things you just mentioned be able to show that from a cardiovascular standpoint that you're ready to go that you could walk into an organization tomorrow and maybe not know what they're doing but be able to be out there and not get hurt. Okay, and then to find that the intellect. Peace. During this workout to be able to show that you know from a rush standpoint how to move in the pocket how to handle pressure as it was coming at him. So we had a pretty good workout set up for him that we were going to Showcase all those things but it just didn't happen now bombed reai as a fan of the NFL and honestly what Colin Kaepernick good did I think that good for our society it sort of conversation that was needed now, obviously there was a lot I mean ratings drop because there was a whole thing that happened behind the scenes with the NFL. And Colin Kaepernick, but all I wanted was for one day for him to play by the NFL's rules just to see what happened. And then whenever it turned out it didn't have I was bummed about it. I assume the same for you. Absolutely. I just you know you go there in the morning thinking that this is gonna gonna happen and it's going to be great and everybody that I was associated with that was dealing with this. Our whole Focus was the make him and put him in a situation where he could be successful, you know, we want to do everything we can for him to be successful show the things that Needed to show the National Football League teams, but do everything we could to make him successful and then you know, you you really work through that process in your head you see it happening and then when it doesn't happen, it is disappointing so that that was a disappointing day for all involved. And again, I don't know the reasons why I didn't happen the way it should have but at the same time, I hope this young man does get an opportunity if he really wants to play football. I think the trust issues between Colin Kaepernick and the NFL are something that's obviously grown through the last three years. And he says that's why he didn't want to do it and in his tweet. He said I can't wait to see the coaches and GM's there. It's middle as soon as it's going to be hard to get the coaches and GM's there. Did it feel like to you though. This was a fair legit work out where teams were actually going to be looking at in potentially signing him. Oh, no doubt II think when I was finally called up inside of the facility at Flowery Branch at Atlanta. There was 28 teams there but their Scouts, you know, and so to me that's set a lot because to take those guys off the road. To me that says something to you because normally those guys are Advanced scouting those guys are preparing for something else. And so when you do that to me, you're making a commitment. I think the league was making a commitment to giving him a shot. Now, you know where it fell apart at as I just mentioned. I don't know but I really felt like the league was trying to do the right thing bums me out. Coach Freddie kitchens is obviously on your staff. So, you know him pretty well. How much is a blame for the Cleveland Browns you put on on him this year. And do you think he has what it takes to be a coach in the NFL in the future? Well, let me say this I is hard for me being a head coach in the National Football League is hard, you know and I think you wear a lot of different hats. I only knew Freddie as my running back coach. I don't know Freddy, you know as a play caller. I don't know Freddy as standing in front of a room leading a room day in and day out but you know again at the same time the success that you have to have as that leader needs to be demonstrated and to me there's been a lot of things that have happened that I think people will Question that if he has the right makeup to do it in the future. I don't know that you know, I don't I really don't but I again I wish every coach who's a head coach in the National Football League the best. Yeah. It's not an easy. He got to deal with a lot of things you can absolutely. Oh you become the CEO of a company all of a sudden. Yes, you did and it's no longer just on football for you when thinking about that. Do you see a chance in the future? And I don't know how daud-you a doubt in you are to social media and stuff like that Antonio Brown. Do you think with how good he is? And this is another bummer for me. This is just like Colin Kaepernick now, I'm bummed out about it that he didn't do that because I wanted to see him go in the NFL and show that he can still got it in Antonio Brown this last year. He goes from being the best wide receiver in the NFL now to something that he's most polarizing figure on the internet people who either completely hate them or like hey, you're our guy and it seems like every single tweet. He sends out his potentially ruining another opportunity that he can potentially have. They say teams are still interested. Do you see a team taking a Out on Antonio Brown with all that has transpired at some point. Yes. Now do I think they're gonna dig around a dig and do their due diligence to make sure yes, the guy is too talented, you know, and if he's right and if he's in your organization and playing football the way we know he can then he's going to go do some great things, but would we have to make sure that all the t's are crossed and the i's are dotted before you ever bring him in the building. Absolutely. I mean you owe that to the other men that are in the locker room you owe that to the organization. So there's a fine line. In there, there's no question. But this guy is arguably like you just said one of the best receivers out of play the game. It's tough. I hate watching her Hugh. I won't let you know Hard Knocks painted you in a bad image II didn't know you from anything and I was like, I don't know how this guy does it having this conversation with you. I'm very thankful. You came on this show. I'm excited to see what you do in the future and I hope that tequila company does very well for you. Hope you got George Clooney George Clooney a billionaire in that whole thing. Absolutely. That's the plan. I appreciate it at night again. I mean that's that goes to show You would people think the way people paint people people really don't know people until you get to know so that wasn't me. I know that's not me and I know my my other coaches and players they know that stopped me. So at the same time, I can't wait to go back and have a chance to prove myself a different way. Hey nice revenge tour is a beautiful thing. You know what I mean? Absolutely. Yeah. Where you at now, do you have a house in California out there? I'm in Cincinnati. I'm in California at times. I'm in Arizona at times. I've been Florida a just tequila company keeps you moving. Hey, well cheers to you saw loo. Good luck with everything and thanks for joining us. Ladies and gentlemen Hugh Jackson. I think I liked him a lot more than they portrayed on HBO. Yeah, honestly. Yeah, I'm being a hunter since years whenever I saw him on HBO and now I should have been more woke to the fact that editing can make you look in however even ASAP Rocky is experiencing exactly what I should know that going in to put man. He looked bad on Hard Knocks. I mean, He looked like your guy that didn't have control of his team. He look like a guy that the staff didn't look good and those types of things you have to remember do happen. But the way that thing was painted with him not having a lot of success was bad that conversation was good there. Yeah, it was incredible and like you said like that everyone that watched Hard Knocks going in that new like hey, the Browns are terrible. They always have been so why wouldn't they be like? Hey, let's build on that dysfunction. Otherwise we might have just kind of a stale boring season and I am a fan of Hard Knocks. Yeah, it's awesome. I'm a fan but they definitely fettig We thrived off of the hey this team stinks. They have stunk for a long time. It's very easy to paint that picture when everybody on Earth knows something. I don't I'm interested see if he's willing to go back as an offensive coordinator because that's where he dominated with the Bangles and also with the Raiders or if he's strictly looking to get a head coaching God himself. I think you very much understand. She's going to be an offensive odor. I should ask that question I guess but I thought it was pretty obvious and some he's looking to do any to be a head coach you guys deal with so much. I was in New York. He said New York and Washington. There's a pretty large markets with. Fan base that could go south quick him becoming an offense coordinator again thriving doing well. I mean it was becoming I'm happy you came on the show. That was awesome. Yoda is dog couple times and different man. 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This year was there for four years great success just Only took the gig at Florida State he wants prominent prominent program that I believe he will bring back to life because he's a damn good coach ladies and gentlemen coach Mike Norvell. More about how's everything going coach? Everything's great. How are you down in Florida State getting after it down there in Tallahassee? No question. You would have been I guess is my eleventh day on the job and we've been in full Sprint mode since the minute I hit the ground. So it's been it's been great. You had a really good signing day yesterday and just honored to be here. Okay. So whenever you get a gig like Florida State now with this early signing day is your role to find all the commits that were already committed and Them there or are you trying to trying to find new players and sell them on what Florida state is going to become under Mike Norvell? Yeah a little bit of both and you know, the first part of it is the evaluation of what's in place and we've got a great group of young men that are currently on our roster. There were another group that was committed and you try to evaluate, you know, how you see them them transpiring through this change and what we're looking for and then you know, there's also the part of you know what you're what you're looking to attract and so So we had a little bit of both in or really in All Phases of that here this last 10 days and it came together there on signing day. We were able to hold on to guys that were committed. You know, we're able to get a couple guys that a decommitted go back on board and then we're able to attract some new faces that you know, I think R&B great addition. So it was a it was definitely a lot of time that went into it. But you know, it was the pace was pretty pretty crazy getting a chance to meet you and see your operation in men. It's not only a game day. But whenever we called your Memphis Tigers game and then all the success that you brought to Memphis and everything like that. Your name would have been up for every single job in college football. Every single one. Everybody would be like I maybe we should go get coach Norville why Florida State because everybody talks about how Florida state was once this incredible program and it was it used to be must-see television back in the day. It's kind of fallen from Grace a little bit. What did you see in the Florida state gig that said, you know what this is where I want to be. Let's go ahead and turn this this thing back to being great program and I think you all factors were a part of it. You know, I any decision I've ever made in my life really come down to two things. It's you know, one how I believe I fit the place and then you know to does is it going to be a great decision for my family and can it be a place that that we can create a family atmosphere for what we're going to do and how we're going to move forward. And so and then Florida State checked all the boxes, you know, since I was 13, I remember in our 13 years old the first piece of college memorabilia, I Owned was a Florida State national championship license plate. That was the only thing that how got my wall and you know to be to think that I now have an opportunity to lead this program. It is something that's still surreal to me, but even beyond that, you know the tradition the brand I think this is one of those iconic Brands and all the college football. I truly believe that for college football to be right for the state needs to be a national Contender and needs to be you know relevant in that discussion. And there's a lot of hard work to get there and it's going to its Going to you know be a process and every day we're gonna have to to operate in a with a mindset and approach of you'll maximizing the potential that we have. But you know, when you look at our fan base on a place where that I get to live each and every day is a wonderful University to recruit student athletes to I mean, it really checked all the boxes and beyond that when you get a chance to meet the people, I mean from the leadership from the president that Brasher door athletic director and David Colburn Board of Trustees, I mean everybody And what this program can can once again become and you know, I'm excited that they chose me to be able to lead that that mission. I didn't know a damn thing about the American Conference before this year's Thursday night football and then after getting a chance to watch and to learn about it, it's a very good League. The American Conference is a very good league with a lot of talent not only for the players but also coaches now you're moving into the ACC which has been Clemson's domain. That's just the way it goes. How do you How does Florida State team or any team in the ACC try to compete with what Clemson has been able to do Jeff Collins at Georgia Tech? Just kind of great sign in class. He's a recruiter. I mean you look around the ACC Mack Brown is doing good things in North Carolina. The ACC is about to become not only just a Clemson dominant Football Conference, but altogether, it really feels like it's an upswing in the ACC. How are you going to compete with them? Is it all recruiting or do you feel very good about your scheme and the way you coach your players up, you know, I think when you're a part of a great League, you know. Those things matter, you know, you can be a great recruiter. But if you're not a developer of men and you know, putting them in a position to schematically achieve then you know, it's hard to to be at an elite level and that is our Focus. We want to we want to work to be elite and everything that we do I can tell you that, you know, the student the type of student-athlete that we can recruit here the resources that are in place, you know, the coaching staff and them, you know in process of assembling will be as good as any in the country and you know with that comes great expectation and great challenge. There's no doubt that you look at the success that Clemson's had over the last few years and it's something that should be respected as that's something that you know, it provides opportunity for growth. And you know, I can tell you I'm I'm I'm standing within a program that we have. We have a group of student athletes and coaches that are that are excited about what the future holds and we know that we're going to maximize every day. So I think the answer your question it takes all and you know, I'm very confident what we do and how we do it. You're going to work every day to put ourselves in the best position. What is your motto for your team? Like whenever somebody watches this Florida State team? Maybe not this year as you continue to build the culture and bring your people and but what do you want people to see from the Florida State Seminoles led by coach Norville, you know, I think it's all about our climb and every day you were aspiring to be the best version of ourselves. We know that you know, we were starting at at point zero and you know, wherever that is, whatever that looks like, you know all we can all we can control is what we Do it today and if we can focus on on 1% growth each and every day stacking those on top of each other, you know, I'm not I'm not looking at a four or five year plan. I'm looking at today and if we could if we can be the you know, the best version of us, you know players coaches everybody involved and I believe that we will be headed in the right direction. And so we're going to focus on that climb and and truly just a step that's right in front of us. That's awesome things going to go to what's going to be your involvement in the in the bowl game for Florida State. Right now my job is 100 percent personnel. And you know, that's something that I've been out of been out to practice. I'm actually headed out to another one here in just a minute. But you know, I'm in the process of evaluating person now getting to know that our players. I'm meeting with every player on our team this week just to get to know them and you know, obviously, you know, attracting and recruiting personnel and with with players and then also with coaches and I'm excited about where we are. We've got a couple couple More positions to fill and just organizing things for the best for the best opportunity for us to be moving forward here in January, but the I'm going to be there to support but I will not be involved in the game coach Odell Hagen's has done an incredible job as interim head coach and he's gonna he's gonna, you know, obviously finish it up here with this with this team and this in this game and you know, this game is not about me. It's about the senior class and then finishing out, you know in a special way, you know there for this for this On this opportunity to have in front of you. Is it awkward? Is that awkward or hard to do if you see something that you might you know, I mean, you're a hell of a football coach. I mean you've LED nothing but success everywhere. You've gone this far. Is it awkward or hard whenever you see something and not to be like but you kind of got to wait for it. Yeah, I mean it is but I mean also I respect I respect the process. I respect the work that these young men of put into it the coaches that have been a part of this season, you know, I don't It's not my place and it's not my you know, I'm going to help in any way that I can I am available went out and watch them practice and I'd be lying to you if I said I didn't didn't give any encouraging tidbits to go to but but it's you I'm a teacher and whether you know, whether I'm involved in the scheme or not. I'm not I know what good football looks like and then I know that if we can help focus on the little find tiny fundamentals, whether it's a senior that I'm never going to get the opportunity to coach or it's a Human, that's all about the grossest student-athlete and that's what I'm about and that's what I'm going to continue to be about, you know, as we jump in and start our product our process to lead this program. We wanted to go when you meet with the players and you're trying to learn about them and I assume they're trying to learn about you. What are you asking them? What are the questions? Are you like? Hey if you were a kitchen appliance, which kitchen appliances the dealer is it like hey, what are you here for? What do you feel? Like what like, how do you get to know them? Is it like a job interview? Yeah, you know, I usually always asking about themselves and and you know, it's funny. It's like they think it's a trick question, but I just want to know about them because everybody has a story everybody has a background everybody chose for to state for a reason and then I've also tell them the reason that I chose it and you know, these young men to they did not pick me. I'm not naive in that but but I did pick them and I'm here for for a specific purpose and we talked about having a family atmosphere. We talked about the importance of relationship. Well if I couldn't take the time during even a crazy week of I need a and hiring coaches if I can't take 15 minutes with every player on this team to get to know why they do what they do and where they come from that I'd be a fraud and that's I've got to show them with my action that that had the importance that they have. It was one of the toughest decisions I've ever had to make in my life not not coaching in the in the Cotton Bowl that but that Memphis team because it was a that is that is my family as well. Even though I've changed addresses those kids will always be able to count on me but you know to not be a part of that. Is a difficult decision but I also knew that with what I need to do here and the young men that I get to coach here at Florida State, you know, it's going to take time they were going to build those relationships and and I'm all in with what with what we're doing here and it's been a it's been a great start and I'm looking forward to each and every day here moving forward coach going off that how difficult was it to break the news to your team that you were going somewhere else after you've built all these relationships with these guys over the last couple of years. What was your message to them when you were heading out the door, too? Or state and it was emotional. It was like I said, you know to finish with one of the conference Championship and achieving that the Cotton Bowl invitation. I mean, it was such a glorious night there Saturday night someone that I'll remember forever but you know Sunday morning it was one of the hardest conversations I've ever had to have and you know, I told those kids and I did everything I could I gave them everything I had each and every day and no I wasn't quitting on them. I was just changing. addresses and that they can always count on me and they know that they know and you know, people can tell you tell you a story they can they can obviously try to paint a picture but we had four years together and I tried to do exactly what I told them I was going to do and this is just an opportunity that I felt was the best for myself and my family and that they could always count on me and probably one of the most gratifying things that I've ever had in my life was when I was done with that and started to walk to the door every one of those Kid stood up and gave me a relevation for what we had done together and they came and every one of them hug my neck for I left to say that to say that there weren't a ton of tears that were shed. I mean that would know what it was. It was just incredible and you I'm forever grateful for not only those kids allowing me to impact their lives. But for what the impact that they had on my oh my what a moment that had to be that because I bet you they're proud of you too. I mean Florida state is a massive gig. What is the First thing because whenever we got a chance to meet with you and you the Memphis what Liberty Bowl the Liberty Bowl is the stadium right Liberty, but yeah, the other Liberty Bowl Stadium is owned by the city. So any upgrades are improvements that you had to make that you had to actually go politic and like shake hands with like city council and mayor like, hey, we'd like to maybe get a new locker room in here do something like that. You have to do that now with Florida State, I'd assume that they have a pretty good booster and situation happening down there Florida State. What is something you think that you guys? Need to improve on if you really want to become back to being a national problem that program we've got to tell you in both situations you're coming from that was way too great with great support you within the city and the whole community and a lot of people that committed, you know, even be above what they had ever done to see our program can continue to elevate your coming here to Florida State. I mean to say a good booster group. This is a great place. This is a great group of supporters as good as anywhere in the country and knowing who we represent. Isn't what we're trying to do on the I could not be more honored to be able to be a part of this and and there's there is commitment there's commitment and the pursuit of greatness and it's going to take all hands on deck and do obviously we're excited about the things that we know we need to to grow and improve on you know, and that's something that we're going to continue to discuss every day moving forward, but you know, we're focused on the moment and the opportunity that's here today and we're excited about what the future holds. Well coach. I can't thank you enough. Good luck a flirt. Eight you and your staff are nothing but hospitable to us whenever we came to Memphis and I can't wait to see you do very good things for the Seminoles ladies and gentlemen head coach are the Florida State football team head coach Mike Norvell. Thank you Mike. Thank you Pat. You guys have a great holiday and hopefully the for two senior in Tallahassee in the near future and go knows. Hey, you got it, bro. Good luck. Go. No, sorry. Hey, he's a good dude, but he was a good dude. Whatever. We sat down child with him now granted every coach sat down and talked to us a long. Longer that I guess and they'd ever talk to any other bigger whenever these coaches are talking to me and Hasselbeck. I think they enjoyed the conversation, but he said he opened the entire facility up to us. I mean, he was very good guy and everybody knew that he was going to head to some big job. He will he could have got any job. He wanted by the way, he would have been able getting job you once saw something at Florida State excited to see what he does with that print one of my favorites that's ever from 1987 to 2000 Florida State finished in the top five every single year. There were incredible to watch they were fun watching then they fell off now, can he bring them back? We'll see that Clemson team. Number one recruiting classes. I'm a Clemson's recruit. Yes. Some are Clemson's like things that they tout as you know, a lot of those guys that use going to Florida State or now coming to Clemson. That's what they that's like an actual statement by Clemson like Alam and stuff like that. So it's going to be interesting he's gonna have to get to work but they got the right guy in there. I'll be excited to see what he does. We have some breaking news though. Yes, we do. Alright Johnny. Knoxville is returning with jackass for March of next year. Wow, who's getting back together? There has to be a smoother way to do all that for the younger generation right now. That didn't get a chance to grow up during the jackass generation. I feel like you got a miss you missed out on the water. Honestly, whenever these buffoons took to the television and we're just willing to do absolutely anything for a couple of use. It really flipped the world on its head. I mean, I remember times hopping into a grocery cart in the middle of a parking lot. We'll send me into a bush specifically because I saw Johnny Knoxville in the boys. Do it on TV. It got so bad. The entire world was trying to be jackasses that they had to insulate put an entire. Please do not send us videos of you acting like jackasses. We got enough of it. We're already on it. And to be honest, I think jackass shaped my life. I don't think there's any chance that I jump off of that pontoon without watching Jack as knowing what the body can go through. That's what Jackass taught me is that the body can go through absolutely anything and I appreciate what those dudes. Were willing to do for my pure entertainment growing up and I'm excited to see jackass for their old though. There's going to be some bad brittle bone. I mean that could get bad. I saw Steve-O jump off a roof into like a Jacuzzi like belly flop their day. I think he still has got it Steve-O still got it always will have it remember he was a clown in the circus and he he was a guy that was willing to do absolutely and I mean it took quite a toll not only on his body but mentally physically emotionally he's come out on the other side of it happy for him. But those dudes weren't what they were doing on TV on MTV weekly. I can't think of enough - I can't think about it was specifically for our enjoyment specifically for our entertainment and they made a lot of money doing it. But boy there were some awkward moments. They do you think bam jumps into it. All right. I know he's probably going to stay away from base of impact on come on seat. I had to break down to say that age thing is a real thing that you brought up a good point. I simulated to when I was younger jumped out of a minivan going like 35 miles an hour into a bush. If I did that now I'd be in the hospital for a full of clavicle. I mean you jump on The top of an RV landed on your feet and rolled and you couldn't stand for two days. That was three years ago. That was one that was because I slipped on the inflated air mattress any and it deflated in I heard Johnny Knoxville was very handsome very talented very rich and he would just go stand right in front of a bull and just tell the bull go ahead and kill me in saying it was Insanity. I respected it though all for some laughs just a couple ha ha ha. All right. What are we doing? Next? That's all was it was just a quick. Haha. What are we doing? Next? I Pontius I believe pawnees yeah. Oh my gosh look and who was Ryan down unfortunately was really good to present peace Dave England Dave England was a big fella Place. Yeah, press enter we man. Yeah. I'm excited. Someone might potentially dead in this old. Yeah, but I'm excited to watch it and also correction though. It's March 6 2021 so next. Z tends to be wrong. Yeah, but it was next year. I was thinking I was doing the Roaring Twenties already. That's not me. So that means our filming it right now. Yeah, wait for this little weird have more breaking news as we go. It's like Johnny Knoxville has broken both of his legs. They were insane. Yeah. Do you receive a clip of them abducting Brad Pitt? Ah, what all time? Oh, yeah. Happy birthday, baby. Yeah. Oh, yes. I saw once upon a time in Hollywood. Did you like unbelievable? I mean, I guess there was a story in there somewhere. Here's my side is slow. It's a little salt. It was like a reality show. I felt like I was watching a reality show which I respect. I enjoyed it. It was entertaining but I'm not putting it up there with like like Django and chain or when it comes to know. Yeah, it's definitely not one of his best like top five but it's Yeah, it's you're basically just there watching the performances and kind of enjoying the ride because there isn't like the the story is very like come and go. Yeah and Charles Manson makes an appearance. Oh, yeah. I'm a big fan of That that you think you get through an entire, what's his name? The guy made a movie Terence winter. Do you know you get through entire Tarantino movie in there hasn't been a lot of gruesome stuff and then 10 minutes how disgusting can we get here? It was the dog food. Oh my God. Good movie. Yeah. I'm sure masterful by any means by this was a very good. I enjoyed watching the Irish. And I mean, I've been on quite a little movie kick your watch was Santa Claus last night. I think I slept through the Grinch a little bit Home Alone 2 was on last night nice. I mean Christmas holiday. She go all the way Grinch was on last night baby grinches scares me that scares me. It's never watched. It never was an adult so good such a great cast people forget about it. It is a good movie not a top-five Christmas movie, but it is a good movie copy and a half the baby the baby Grinch is disgusting disgusting. It's like baby. Yoda just ugly. Wait carrier and the whole thing. I've not watched that baby out of all you got it's a show you wouldn't get it. Was it the Mandalorian? I tried watching it. I didn't get anything. He weighed 30 somebody yesterday. No, I have never seen sorry. But yeah, but we were told he will tell me that can watch without seeing as you can you can't definitely these people tease kind of people this idiot. Yeah fair enough. Well, I can't thank you enough for listening to this beautiful show today. I can't thank our guests from all week. I can't thank the boys and I can't thank you for this. Fantastic. You're in this run that we've been on it's been a fucking fantastic time. We're almost to another end of another trip around the Sun and this has been the most incredible one I've ever had. I got engaged. 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On today's show, Pat and the boys are joined by former Oakland Raiders and Cleveland Browns Head Coach, Hue Jackson. Hue chats about why it is so difficult to win in Cleveland and what he thinks it comes back to. He also gives his thoughts on Freddie Kitchens and whether or not he thinks he has what it takes to be a successful Head Coach in the NFL, breaks down the Colin Kaepernick workout situation in Atlanta which Hue was supposed to lead, discusses what his next coaching stop might be and looks at a couple of situations that he might be interested in, and chats about his time on Hard Knocks and his interesting take on the whole experience (21:28-41:32). Next, former Head Coach of the Memphis Tigers and newly christened HC of the Florida State Seminoles, Mike Norvell calls into the show. He chats about his philosophy for landing recruits and how that job starts immediately upon being hired, how leaving Memphis was one of the toughest decisions he's ever made in his life, why he thinks he'll be successful at Florida State despite the ACC being Clemson's playground for the last several years, and what his involvement will be in the Seminoles bowl game (42:43-59:03). Also included is Pat's takes on all the Saturday NFL games this week (despite not being able to watch them as he'll be a field analyst for the Boca Raton Bowl), and how each and every game has playoff implications. They break down whether or not the Bucs should give Jameis a huge extension, if he would be willing to take a paycut, why this might be the week that the Bills finally take down the Patriots in Foxborough, and how the 49ers and Rams both still have plenty to play for. Pat also reacts to the announcement that Johnny Knoxville is back in the saddle for another Jackass movie that will be released in March of 2021. Today's show is a fun one. Come and laugh with us. Cheers. 