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We are talking God is greater. That's the name of the episode that we're getting into today. So I'm super excited. We're going to talk about Alma site. We're going to talk about so many things back stories. We got Shady Church deals. We got explosions. We also have a book dedication. Mmm. Don't read book dedications the very beginning of the book. They will now become important to you. Yeah, they're not everything everything. So it's so exciting. We also have our special segment WYD and of course our news and gossip. But before we get into it Evan a Chatman in the building and our Messiah extraordinaire, yes, yes. Yes. All I do is watch this all things Netflix, right? You've been binge. Everything's been then you been I love it. I love it. So good and I of course am Tatiana. Teresa, what were your overall thoughts about this episode this episode 9 so many thoughts so many. I know your book of notes there. I said there was so much going on. Yes, and I said all the characters were confused and manipulated in this episode like some are hello what's going on with that? And I was just like what was going on there like what was going on tomorrow? What? Is that was my whole thing. I was like this he had me shook. I did not see that coming. He was going up like inexplicable odds, I'd he seems uncomfortable the entire episode like the past couple episodes. He seemed really uncomfortable with what he's doing. Like he doesn't know what's going on. That's how I feel. No he has no idea. I feel like this episode was like the episode for Back stories, whether kind of like giving you the meat and the reasons behind why everybody's doing things that they're doing or like why they're in the position that they ended. I just shoved it all in one that because maybe that's why I felt full because I had meat and potatoes this time. Yeah, that's really good. I felt really good about it was like, yes. Okay. Okay. We're getting somewhere. Yes, there's so much. So you guys I apologize beforehand because we're going to try to cover so many I have so many we have so many things to say about this episode. And so if we don't get to it all please keep the comments going so we can keep talking about it because we love to talk about the show. So with that I just want to go right into our Back stories because I feel Like that was what this episode completely started off with. Yes. So let's talk about Abram as a child. Super cute kid. They were both cute. So cute his mom was like so loving it seemed like he looked like he had almost the perfect childhood. Yeah until until a Car Bomb explodes on him and his brother and his mom and his mom dies right she's dead. Okay, who was the brother that the brother died to we don't know? Okay, they didn't say okay, I'm assuming God. I thought I missed it hoping we'll see I just saw like both the kids like this, right, you know when they fly through the air at little cigarette burns on their back. Yeah. Oh my gosh, that's why his back is crazy. I just made that connection. I didn't realize okay. That's why there's so many were going. Yes. I just thank you. Welcome because I'd miss that that is why I'm here. We're also talking about kelman now kelman, they don't say his name bring often the but that a that's Ava's dad. Um, he has short term memory loss poor thing which explains so much engine, but he doesn't seem like Ava doesn't seem to like, I mean, maybe she gets it but like it hasn't been said nor does she say it or he doesn't say it. So I think that maybe it's frustrating like or she just didn't want to deal with it. Right, but maybe that's because she doesn't know what it is, or maybe she'll like maybe he's just what is wrong what she's like in denial. Yeah. I mean that would explain why he calls her Ruth and that one phone conversation and we also find out that her mom had six miscarriages before they she had her before she had Ava right that conversation was so interesting. It was so hard because Ava didn't want to talk about her mom and I think I got emotional. Yeah, I think I but I want to know why she didn't want to talk about her mom because I mean her dad I'm assuming that he's you know, he's not near death, but he's in the later years of his life and that's tent that tends to be when people like reflect the most on past experience that they've had or decisions that they've made. And I feel like he wanted to talk about them with her especially about her mom and she just wasn't having it. No, she wasn't having it at all. And the thing too is that her dad brings up like the idea of Faith Like needs a faith and she's like don't talk to me about having faith because I am just like you you are like me we are both selfish. We are both to ourselves. This is how it is and because of their work their line of work like her dad wasn't able to be there for her mom. So whatever happened to her. Her before she passed away or whatever. Maybe they got a divorce like she didn't feel the loving the home and then she was like, yeah, man, I wasn't there for my husband going through cancer going through chemo that she probably was out working. She's probably doing what she does best which is ignoring the problem moving on and working. Hmm. So she had I think she has an extreme guilt which is why it's so hard for her to like take her wedding ring off because we've seen this now a couple times where she's like playing with it or like struggling to take it off thinks about taking it off doesn't take it off. So I think Has this like immense amount of guilt and she's like alone and she knows that and she knows the defense or her choices exactly is also though because if their choices, I wonder if she keeps having to explain to her dad that she's having these miscarriages or if it's something like because she's like Dad I lost the baby and he was like, oh, I'm so sorry, right like he didn't know but I mean this also has happened before so like maybe because it doesn't it didn't seem like they had had a discussion at all that like, yeah, but then he lost it but he forgets things. It's true. So I didn't know if it was like she's like I lost the baby like I don't want to keep telling you this because that's painful to have to look like tell you over and over and over again or if it's something that she's just now telling him. I don't know. I kind of took it as like she was just now telling him only because they hadn't seen anything else before right, but I mean, I guess it could be either way up for interpretation. What do you think you go? I don't know. I don't know. She can't be with her dad. She doesn't want to be with her dad at all. Like avoiding him at all costs I think because he is still vulnerable vulnerable right now and because he keeps forgetting things. She kind of was like she has to take care of him. Right? And I don't think just the time or the patience. Yeah patients absolutely no rush nor have any and either one of them dealt with like their past problems issues therapy, whatever. Yeah. Yeah totally so she runs away right into the arms of Evie. I was like, oh my gosh, of course, you're going to come back right look here. Do you plan to see the last episode and Oh, yeah, like you want some of this though. She did she did I can't blame her. Everybody's human. She kissed him back really good. Okay wasn't like he was just going all-in and she was just like they're like a like a little fish like, you know, she was going in on that kiss to think about. Yeah. Yeah, so I knew she was going back first e, okay, they're both thirsty. And this was a fulfillment of so many things I think but it was interesting because while they were in bed together she didn't I want him to look at her. No, I don't know if it's okay. I took it as she was trying to like cover space like she was like a shamed of like having sex with someone else beside her husband. Yeah, and that's yeah or something but like not that like she didn't want him to see her but like she didn't want to look at his face. I thought she felt guilty. Yeah because she's moving on well, like physically I guess she's moving on and it's like you said before she said like a hard time taking her ring off to move on right? And so now she's just like instead of Forming a relationship and then like moving on slowly. She just hopped in bed with Abby. And so I think that's why she did it but he was like no he was like you got to look at this. Myth is so intense, but I appreciate so fast. I appreciate that that he wanted to look in her eyes. Like I want to know the person that I'm making love to yeah making love well knocking boots, but shacking up I mean to make it romantic. Set the tone are making love what can do each other into each other's eyes. That's what I was trying to hear. You're like nah, they were just do not going to believe that's what was happening. So that happened so that obviously connection there that's gonna stay I think because she's so attractive, you know, she was like, oh that was a mistake. I was like too late too late. It happened. The connection is there I don't know if this is her first dude after her husband, right? If it is that connections going to stay. Yeah, but I mean they already Had I mean they already have that moment when they were drinking in the bar together, right? Exactly. Yeah, and I like they had a moment and they're very similar. Yeah. I hope I had this I wouldn't be mad about it now. I hope they stay together. Yeah, like them did we ship them? No, that's not ship them. Never mind. We'll use that for a different time. Everybody's another shipping thing. So now we want to we also get the back story on Felix and Anna who it turns out that they've had literally and I think has had years of resentment because she was a Teen Mom. So she got pregnant when she was a teen with Rebecca and I'm assuming that they told her she had to keep the baby right and Mary feeling that's not Felix's baby. No. No, I think it's Felix is baby. I think it's Felix is daughter because I bet you she got pregnant by Felix when they were teenagers and her father because he's a pastor said you can't get an abortion. You have to make it work with Felix and you have to stay in dili Texas as what I think that's why she was like, I don't want the same thing for my daughter. That's why I let her get the abortion. Right. Did you think something different? What did you think I didn't make all those connections but we can she straight up said like I don't want the same thing happening to her. I don't want her life ruined so I can only assume that she went through that that's a great assumption. I'm into that assumption a hundred and ten percent and that would totally make sense as to why she's very like protective of Rebecca why she's kind of had an alcoholic because like she doesn't She doesn't want to stay in dili, Texas. And I don't I don't know who loves Felix. She said she did. She said she did sounded sincere. I don't know. I just feel like I think you're forced to be in a marriage like no way like, I mean listen arranged marriages work don't I'm not that's not what I'm saying, but I'm just saying sometimes when you're like forced to be in a situation that you're not ready for like it rare 18, you get pregnant you get married like that's a whole lot to do to deal with you don't even know what you're doing. Remember? No, I think she like I agree with you there. The color of the sky like totally that's going on. Yeah you and you have so much maturing to do right? So it's definitely you're like thrown into life. I think she's grown accustomed to Felix like, you know how you're familiar with somebody that you you can say it's love but it's like a different version of love where you're so familiar, which is comfortable. Yeah. Maybe she's just your like when you get some at some point in life, sometimes you just get like settled. Yeah, you're just used to what you're used to so like now that like Maasai or phayam has like come into their lives and like disrupted the I like routine. I feel like she's just really confused and like all over the place and doesn't know what to do with herself. Yeah, and her husband was trying to him on stop right? Her husband is something else a Monsta talking about something else. Can you explain to us more about what goes on here at AfterBuzz TV? Yes, of course I can talk to you. Thank you so much guys here AfterBuzz TV. We talk a lot about our our benches. We have dramas. We have reality TV, which is my personal favorite. I love a good reality show and You can follow this all on YouTube. We can stream them live for most of our show. So you can like comment and subscribe. You can also if you're on the go and don't have time to watch a whole 30 minute video on your way to work. You can check us out on iTunes and Spotify. Those are good alternate. You're right. Yeah. I will check us out on Spotify some some other thing when you're when you're getting your mommy's voice in the car. I don't listen to myself and I dudes all is it is somebody else I listen to myself talk to my kids all day. That's not talking about this Shady deal church because we ended with Felix and now he's just this like egocentric money hunt money-hungry person. He comes to Ed as this like with this like big shot business deal, right? And basically I put in my nose. He's pimping out them the MSI. Remember, I told you this a couple laps you did and you nailed it on this is his Mo. He is like first he may be thought he was it but this was the thing that he said that had me weak. He said to Ed basically even if he isn't the the Messiah like right that he liked it would look good or something. It would still bring attention right? I can't find it in my notes right now, but yes, right, right. Right what had me was that he went to Ed and was like, didn't you say you wanted a lot more viewers? Right? Guess what? I can bring that to you. Do you want it or not? Then he goes to Alamos. I and he's like, right he promises. He's like you told me to pray and God told me to be your servant and that's what I want to do for you. Let me be your servant right? I was like whoa manipulative. You just had a flip of character and one day like a total. A total flip and that is not something that we've seen as a characteristic of Felix before so this is like a whole new Felix that is driven by greed and and attention. That's what he wants and I think he's butthurt because he's not Alma sighs like right-hand man anymore, you know, because he did that whole press conference without him without even telling him and he's like what I thought was weird. What the heck was that press conference that Alma said that Pat I am did the quote was that that was weird. I think he was just exposing the president is fun some I think that's why okay, I think that was about Oh just because the president was like don't tell any don't tell anybody and then the first thing you did let me go do a press conference, but I thought it was crazy because now we see this like we watch Ava's dad flipping through the channels and he's watching TV and on it. Is this huge commercial with Alma PSI on one side and Ed on the other and it says in the conversation with the Messiah, I like em, big words, right the Messiah and I was like dang it. Hmm. It's a disappointing. You know, what's so funny though. What I feel like that. It's what they touch on so much on the show. Yes, like just like the stereotypes of like those big mega churches. I know well, it's TV evangelist and TV evangelists have a stereotype definite just it from the beginning of time. Yeah. Did you ever watch TV evangelist? Well when you're done one guy no, but what is that one guy? Just Goldstein. Oh, yeah present-day. Yeah, Joel soon as the mega trade ya know. I don't know that back in the day in. My grandma you I forgot what they were called. Gosh. I wish my husband was on the live chat. He could tell me and it was used to watch that all the time. Had those big Gloppy eyelashes. Yes like this. Yes. So like is that is when I think of TV evangelist, that's the first thing that my mind goes to because that's like part of my childhood now and so they TV evangelist always have this running thing of like exploitation and you know, like all this kind of stuff. So just right into that will get her name for you soon. Yeah, because yeah because that it's very interesting story long story short. They had a really big church. They kind of grew it into like being a big thing. They kind of got manipulated like Like by other people trying to like get in their pockets, they ended up like turning it over Jan Crouch. Is that her name? That is our name or Janice Wendell. Yeah, Janice Wendell Crouch. Yes her name. Yeah. She's a lady with the pink hair. She was on TBN. She yeah, she was a liberal religious broadcaster. She passed away on 2016, but that was her name Janus Wendell Crouch. Yeah, but like when people think at least if you're from from my generation p when people think like It was a huge thing because you know, you're telling like give money send money and that was the big problem there and there was some other things where like people are trying to get in their pockets. They turned up at the church and then it wasn't theirs anymore. And yeah, the story's interesting speech you'll get up well, but on below yes. Yeah, but it sucks. It just sucks because it plays into that entire stereotype of all of them is like TV evangelist. Just kind of like my money hungry and attention. They want attention. I'm just like, okay like Totally plays into that's not how churches supposed to be. No, no, absolutely not absolutely not. So basically what Felix says he's tells and he says even if he isn't the room of say you put him on TV and no one will blame you for wanting to believe if he was fake. Yeah. That's what he said. Yeah because we're still trying to like do good. Right? So my question was like what is Felix doing question mark question mark is a different person. He's a different lately. So we've seen him go from this like very humble beginnings Pastor who was Trying to spread the word in his church to now this like crazy narcissist who is just Addicted to Fame. Yeah. I mean, he's in his robe at like this expensive hotel dining on whatever they ever spring service, you know chose door. It just it's really it's sad it's sad to watch because that's like, you know this human nature at plays off of honestly what your flesh wants. And so that was you know, he just totally fed into that completely fit into that and then when Alma sighs like sure I'll go but I want Rebecca to be there. It was such a weird thing because he goes to his daughter and he's like Alma sighs going to speak he wants you to be there, right? But he said it weird. It was an awkward scene. I didn't understand did you get it that it was awkward because I thought it was totally weird until she's like gives him a hug and then he kind of like breaks the awkwardness because obviously he hasn't like hugged his daughter in a long time, but it was just there something that seemed really fake about it. I mean, I didn't really get the awkwardness from it and personally yeah, I do feel like maybe he was probably feeling some type of way that you know my alma side / Pi am asked for Rebecca. Yeah, you know, yeah, I think he's always been kind of like my quiet because there's still that tug-of-war. Yeah. I'm the favorite know. I'm the favorite not in the paper. Exactly. That's what happens when you have more than three kids, right? Yeah. Yes. Yes. That is it. I really like the Cinematic split because when they're like getting ready to go when he's getting ready to go talk. Split between Alma PSI and Rebecca like getting ready to go speak at this conference. And then we're split between jabril trying to recite his speech and then Samir who is now we know is a suicide bomber you guys that had me so crazy. He is not he peed himself before he even when not like before he was even strapped with the bombs. I was just kind of like see I didn't see that coming because this whole time you see him like reading the Iran and like being in this and then I thought he was going to get married like they brought him a wife you got married, but that's because he was gonna die that my mother's yeah, like they wanted him to they wanted him to experience sleeping with a woman, but they wanted to make it Quran based and so they had them get married. Oh, okay. Yeah, they wanted it to be within the religious spectrum of marriage, I believe because if you went without getting married, then it would be a sin and then he wouldn't be holy enough to be. Yeah, but I was not expecting. Thing wherever he is at this convent, whatever this is whatever is going on training suicide raining right that I didn't but I didn't expect it to be like, I didn't know he was going to be the suicide bomber. I thought they were maybe teaching religion because they nothing had been explicitly said that he was going to be having to sacrifice himself. No, nobody said that but that would it would explain so much but obviously he's not ready and he knows he's gonna go kill his friend would be ready. I'm not ready. I'm dying already. Killing. No. No, I'm fighting my first Escape out the window. Yes, because that is that's what a scary especially because it's going to be against his friend, right? What's that? Did you think he knew that though before? I don't think so. I think he did. I don't think he did because I feel like when they saw each other it was like a oh my God how he says his name? Yeah, and then he broke right and then it doesn't happen because he drops the bomb. Well, he drops the trigger, right but the dude in the car. He already had it together because he probably knew that man was That Samir was not about to go through with it, which is so unfair. It's so unfair, right but that that cinematic movement between the three people. You know, I like a good seeing you guys do I know you do? No, I like a good scene James materi. Yes, Mick Teague, but Teague and Teague. Yes. Yeah James McCarthy James Smith Teague. I Bravo. I love a good parallel see seen building up the drama every single time. I see a thing like that. I'm into it me to I saw the sounds like another one another one. It's mine. I love it. Did you notice that all three between that scene like all three are kids isn't that kind of crazy? So it was to Braille, uh-huh Samia, huh? And then Rebecca because Rebecca goes up his house. I skips out right Rebecca goes up and starts. We talking what her going out. No, no Alice, I leaving no one forced her. M he just left no, but he knew knew what I think he knew okay because he's sitting there he's sitting there. He sees them pull up because you see the car like yeah, he does see so you see him use he sees and pull up and I'm pretty sure that he looked out like saw who it was who was so he doesn't want it. He was already hesitant about getting in front of all these people and speaking but he agreed it sounded like that was no problem for him. He agreed. No, he said I'll do it, right I could find a clip. I will show you I don't think I think he was nervous about it because what is he going to say? He is no to say right exactly. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. Nothing to say in front of that's what he's like, that's why I think he left and his character like he's seems to be the type of person that rolls with the opportunities good or bad. Okay. I can't you know, like oh this opportunity present itself that must mean I must take it. You guys in the car right doesn't know whether he's going to die or not, but he goes on car right you know, so but it's interesting because it's Rebecca. Jabril and Sameer are all three kids and they're all making these tough decisions adult decision. It's yeah, right and they're put in these positions where they're forced to do. Well, I Rebecca wasn't really forced but she was totally coaxed. I think yeah because she thinks that I'll Maasai pie ham is by him is the out is The Messiah yeah, so she is under influence and so mr. Brell and so is Sameer but they're all being pushed for this political and religious battle, right? You know when they have no idea truly what any and none of them know what they're fighting for or saying for that matter true, you know, no one has a fork and I thought that was interesting that they're all three kids and they don't understand the situation. No, but I think that's so interesting that they use the kids because Kids are the ones are the most like vulnerable and open and can be manipulated easily because they don't know what's going on. Yeah, so the fact that you can kind of like give them these ideas like oh, yeah, this is what you need to be doing. Let me read you the speech you need to only be reading the Quran you need to only you know, Messiah like Messiah he came for you or whatever Rebecca was feeling because she was feeling lost and you know homicide kind of gave her a little hope right? She's like, I don't want to be ashamed of my And I shouldn't be ashamed so she told her dad. So I feel like he's given her a different way of looking at things now that she's not in dili taxes and things are a little different. She's kind of seeing a different view of the world a different POV. So yeah, I totally agree and of you yeah, thank you. I was like POV was no, I'm just kidding. You never know. I'm really bad with abbreviations on my they do that to me at work all the time ago. So with this whole Explosion that we know we already touched on that. He didn't actually he didn't do it but he exploded anyway, but it sucks because jabril didn't even go through with talking about with the his mentor had prepared for him. He just started talking about peace, right which is even more sad, but you know, at least my only positive in this scene was it least by the time that everyone saw the bomb and he decided to take his time and saw his friend and all that everybody. Nothing turns by then. You know what I'm saying? I mean I'm saying there wasn't casualties but like a lot of people there was some constant but at least no one was in the church, right? Right, right when it went off besides gyro who? Yeah miraculously, we don't I yeah. Yeah, so it's yeah, so that's it's crazy because it's like two friends saying goodbye to each other and I feel like they were all they had left kind of a thing they for they were best friends. And yeah, I'm I mean, it's it's unfortunate. It's and it they were both unwilling participants in this thing. We called life and now they're forced to do things. I don't know what they're doing. Nor do they want to do mmm-hmm ending a friendship. I mean, they haven't seen each other talk to each other and know and it was the first time they faced each other and so long he's there is going to bomb them. Can you imagine you haven't seen a friend in like a couple years? I don't know maybe some months. However long it's been and the next time you see them in turn a bomb you I'd be like who It was the look it was the look that goes like the look of fear. It wasn't even like yeah, I'm ready to do this. It was like I'm so scared please somebody come get me. Yes Sayid. Allow me who plays jabril he is he stands out to me so much in this whole like season. He's a fantastic actor totally because a lot of his scenes are strictly looking like with his eyes. It's just with his eyes, right? He doesn't say too much. I know and so the fact that he can They that much through his eyes as is that is I feel like that is the note of a true actor and he does so well he does so well, so Kudos Saeed amazing job amazing. We really like you. I really want to talk about the this book Dedication that it found. So Ava confronts Alma sigh about his affiliation with Oscar Wallace and realizes that they still talk to each other. So he was on the phone. Remember one time when he was on the pay phone and I was like, I didn't even see him use the pay phone and yeah like me neither. I'm either so he apparently did he's been calling Oscar Wallace, right? And there was like some Russian numbers. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, there were some Russian numbers so they still talk. Guess what he has the coin again. Did you notice remember I said? No. I didn't notice he had okay Pi am had the coin and remember the last time he was in the jail. He pulled out that coin was pocket right kid K and I was like, it means something right now. He's in it. I did. He's at the hotel. Hello by himself, he pulls out that same coin I'm telling you guys it's a coin her it means something to him. Why would he carry this around I think it's a trick quarter. He was making pay phone pay phone calls. Maybe he was putting it in and taking it out. He's a con artist. It's what you said. Yeah. He's a common. Okay, so maybe that's what he's doing and maybe that's a special lucky coin. Maybe I think it reminds him of something from his childhood. And that's the whole reason why I keeps it maybe it's mean something from his uncle. Yeah, that's what I think losing. That's what I think. Think it's and it's all from the coin but I think that he carries that with him for some reason but it's just funny to me that we see it again, but we even calls Oscar Wallace and I'm surprised that we actually saw this as Oscar Wallace character. I didn't think we were going to see him. Yeah me neither. Yeah, we gave a face to a name. Yes, which was great, but he says to Ava his character is really interesting. I don't know. I don't quite know how to place him, but he says to Ava Between him and me. I'm not the dangerous one. Yeah, and that's the beautiful thing. He said it was happy to serve his cause yeah and Oscar Wallace is book was dedicated to pie him go Sherry is dedicated to PG which I can only assume is a GSM is Yap. I am girl Sherry. So Wallace is the student of Pi am even though okay, even though even though Oscar is the one who is that the teacher or that a sir Oscar is is the professor but I think hear me out. I think his book the book that the Oscar Wallace wrote is actually a pie. I'm going Sherry's term paper, right? That wasn't in the library, right? That's what I think. I love that and I think that's a good theory to think that I think that yeah. I think that makes perfect connection. It has to be it has to be I think that's another point for team believer. I think yeah. No, yes. Pretty believer because I know that makes him no. Yeah, that means even more like team skeptic because look he wrote this entire book about disorganization and creating chaos to make people like really question what they think and then when they do that they're completely shaken and they'll follow anything right? That was his whole book was about and that's exactly what he's doing. Yeah, but I'm saying Oscar Wallace apparently was a good Enough Barry for someone else to steal it and yeah, but they still talk to each other. So it wasn't like you still don't like how I made money. It's like he stole it was like I'm gonna put this book out and you can actually carry it out. Guys, it was an experiment or is it real? I wonder I seriously Wonder with that. Let's get into our news and gossip Evan a can you share that with us? Well, you guys, you know Ed the one that plays Anna's dad who's also a pastor. He also plays his name is Bob or Beau Bridges. He also plays on Green Leaf, which is a known which is on own. And I think it's really funny how they both have. Both of the characters are displayed in these very popular shows have like Pastor religious Church Vibes to them that it was very interesting. Also, we have an interview with Tamir Sicily, right? So he he was in an interview and so they were asking him about you know, they're that the show doesn't really have any clear answers and what was something that did he know that And and so tell me are says basically when he auditioned for it. He did a self tape because he lives in Paris which is funny because I was just we were talking about it how I think his like accent switched a little bit in one of the episodes. I was like did he just sound Fringe, right? So now that makes sense. He's from Paris our he lives in Paris, but he is Israeli. He only got three or four pages, but he really compliments the writer Michael for being for being such a fantastic writer and he loves the characters and the Back stories of What Michael was able to write and then the interviewer also says also asks, whether things about your character that you grew to appreciate. You didn't necessarily notice or feel in the beginning and once you got to know him better, did you like him more? He said no that he had fun at mediately and he enjoyed his character. He did say that Mike that he was trying to convince. He said it was Abby's accent that he was trying to change and Michael wanted him to speak in a very heavy Israeli accent. And he did not agree with that and in the beginning but you know, he was like that's my boss. But he was trying to convince him to have him have different accents because you know, he's a world traveler. He has two different passports or you know, so he was like he's traveled around the world like he should have different accents. But Michael at the end was just like you're absolutely right. But every time you speak English you speak it with people who you don't have to hide your identity with so there's no reason for you to be speaking and any other accent than your Israeli accent. So good point. There you go. He had to be stuck with that. And that is it for the news and gossip. Well, he pulled it off my God. He did such a good job. He did a great job. You know, I'm hashtag team happy. I am to okay. I am too. I think everybody is so cute. He's kind of like his characters kind of like the underdog to where you you see even though you see all of his faults and like the reasonings behind why he does things you root for him. Totally comply cure on you want him to like when to figure it out? Yeah. A mess but you want him a figure like this is the character that you love to hate. Yeah. He's very lovable. Yeah, and sometimes I'm like like Ava and I'm like idiot but like but he have you have can't because you're like, well, he did it maybe for this reason. He's a good person. Yeah. Yeah, we like him good job. We like him. Good job to me Cicely. All right that it concludes our recap of episode 9 again. If we missed something, please put it in the comments because I know there's so much to discuss in this episode. So we like to keep the conversation going. There we go. Evan a can you tell us when we can stalk you. Yes, please stock me on Instagram and on Twitter at ebony Chapman 12. Awesome, and my name is Tatiana maresa at Tatiana Maria. So on all social media platforms, we will be covering episode 10 soon. So stay tuned and we'll see you next time our founder Keven undergaro and me Maria Menounos would like to thank you for tuning in to AfterBuzz TV. 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