This is the big we a black Joy spreading afro-futurist visioning Real Talk food for your soul pop culture podcast big. Laughs big love big Joy Big Dreams the big we hey, what's up y'all? I'm your co-host Calvin Mitchell Williams the third you just call me Calvin or Kyle or C where C dub? I have many nicknames, but aside from being your resident after futures for Liberation. I'm also a retired spoken word.Recovering organizer and every letting his culture nerd who understands the world through memes mixtapes and comic book metaphors. So get ready because I just came back from afro Comic Con in there on fire. I spend my time creating space for new stories and storytellers to emerge and after many Journeys through spaces place in time. I now call Oakland, California USA my home. I am a Pisces. Hey Alice Mia NASA your co-host. I am a lover of love. I love of life. Life a lover of people in yes, a lover of most of all you and I mean it I'm a writer producer a cultural strategists who lives in Memphis Tennessee. I was born in July Leo and I continue to be obsessed with everything from Octavia Butler. It's and then they'll Calrissian from Oprah Winfrey to Stevie Wonder PS if you haven't seen the new trailer for The Star Wars movie coming out. Oh, come on Lando. Welcome to the big. We I'm excited for this episode of dragons organizer sci-fi writer Theologian artists and facilitator, and she is a worker owner at the anti-oppression resource and training. It's a order from the heart a worker owned Cooperative devoted to strengthening movements for social justice and a solidarity economy through political education training and planning about to write a novel drop an album. Yes. I'm so excited to be in Autumn. Do it all the amazing things. And one thing that I really love about Autumn is how she brings her full power and Truth to Parenting. I'm learning so much just on IG post. And listening to all the game of raising beautiful magical children. Adrian Marie Brown is the author of pleasure activism the politics of feeling good emergent strategy shaping change changing world and the co-editor of octavia's brood science fiction from social justice movements. She's a writer a social justice facilitator Octavia Butler scholar pleasure activist healing singer speaker, including a Wedding Singer not forget that founding member of emergent strategy Institute and a doula who lives in Detroit. Adrienne has been my friend for a long time. And the thing I love most about her is that she has always reminded me what Freedom looks like. I know when I look to age and I can remind myself how to free myself up just a little bit but my SuperDuper favorite thing about both Adrian and Autumn is a relationship because they're sisters and I have a sister who was like my favorite person in the whole entire world, and I know what that feels like and to see them together in their full power in there for freedom and Full expression their full creativity is like the most juicy brilliant wonderful beautiful thing and we're so excited to have them on the show really Juiced. I have them on the show and you're also catch them on their own show their own podcast how to survive the end of the world learning from the apocalypse with Grace rigor and curiosity. So definitely join Adam and Adrienne Marie brown and serve how to survive the end of the world and without further Ado. Let's dive into this conversation. Ation, we're about to have with Autumn and Adrian. Hey, y'all we are here and so I You know, come on. There's a guitar in this room. We're going to record how snap let's do it. Make an album instead. I guess we should say hi. Extraordinaire magical women of life we love each other and we were born from the same parents is that weird to think that we came out of the same vagina? Oh God, like when you actually think about it, it's weird. I literally never ever and now you know, what's amazing is now you can ton think that thought. Yeah, it is there. I can't unthink it it was kind of like an act of violence as a thought. Okay, that's a great vagina. It's a great time. Alright, so here we are on your podcast. You have to think about it. Think about it count the vagina that you love is about to change right? I wasn't thinking on that particular question when thinking about the process of life-giving and birth and all that because right right. That's right. We are so this is such a good strong start. Baby's coming soon. You gonna have a baby you gonna have a baby a band new, baby. Speaking of this is one of my favorite segments that we have because we get to talk about what songs are given us life. And I'm really excited to hear. Yes. What songs you all chose to not only give you all I've put on give me life because I'm ready to add to my mixtape. I felt really 80s and 90s over the last couple of weeks. Okay think I was doing it because I wanted to know what type of song is that the young kid was would be bouncing around too. So I've been playing a couple of songs from the that got my juices a little kid and I'm just going to say there was this baby was really excited to hear some De La Sol, but that's not my pet. I'm just putting it out there that yeah, that's right. That baby has good taste already all over a futuristic. I had a Is one of the album's that that I just felt like I slept on this South African hip-hop artist you again BlackRock and the first time ever heard of her was actually on the Black Panther album that Kendrick Lamar released. Yes. It was so first I was like yo, who is this and we which track is she on on op word is do the verse it's so she really Stan album earlier this year and it is literally my nominee for stay woke don't sleep on the album of the Year award. Okay. Okay. It's called Animal. Be nothing. Okay. Alright. Magic afro-futurist Black horror who has all these sounds and textures and the song that really hooked it all in Gorge and Madonna. Okay. Okay. I think it's apropos for what we're going through right now because the hook goes Mercury's in retrograde circles and circles. What's the purpose? I'm glad about this exactly. Should we tell people that we just 45 minutes getting ourselves to this point of conversation. I feel like Listen know that like we put in work to get here with y'all. Hmm. It was an effort was out back a big one. This is why we've never had this many people on at one time before okay. Oh that's exciting. We've had two guests before but Calvin did them talk to them in person. I see you never had you two plus two plus two. Plus y'all two plus production plus, you know, your podcast is all grown. Own up. I'm gonna pass it. I'm gonna pass the mic over to Adrian be okay. I know what song you're choosing for giving us life. All right, so I had to pick two a one of them. For some reason. I was ignoring Ariana Grande for a long time because of her ponytail. I was just like I just can't give it to her. I just can't give it to you. I can't but then recently I hurt like a song came on. In my like kind of randomly came on and I was like, oh wait, I need this song and then I remember that the great Aretha Franklin had asked that Ariana sing at her funeral. So I was like, she's fine now, she's fine. Right? Yeah. She said Ariana is one of the people who can sing at my funeral Aretha wouldn't mess that up. So I was like, let me let me go back and like give my heart over to this experiment and the song is called NASA. And it's about needing space and she basically says I'm like space and you're like in a essay and it's like I just need you to visit me, but kind of keep on orbiting and just give me some room and I feel like that about the whole world. So this is like my sabbatical prep. I'm about to head out to sabbatical and it's like that's my sabbatical prep song is like if you see me out in the world just just stay at that Moon orbit stay over there. So that's one of my songs but the song that has been giving me like super life is Brittany Howard. Just put out a new album, Brittany Howard. Oh, Alabama Shakes Fame and the song is called Georgia and it's just got this little hook. That is like I just want Georgia to notice me. I just want Georgia to notice me. I just cannot get it out of my head. I keep singing it and it's basically like a little queer loves. Nothing, like I think that that's what the song is is just like I'm having all the normal feelings of just wanted someone to like me that happens to be this girl and I don't think there's anything wrong with it and I'm not a little boy. And anyway, it's the best. So those are my songs. It's so cute. So and Brittany had the whole album is amazing. She's freaking brilliant and it's a mood it's a journey but that song in particular is just like like is I like to put on a song and listen to it non-stop on repeat until I have completed what I'm doing with that song which might take an entire week. So that's what any friend of mine knows is like oh, so we're not we're not listening to any other song this song Only Okay, cool. So it's really nice with this is why I how I use my are freely charts. It's true. I get on an airplane. I'm like, what's my song This Is It repeat one time repeat first I go. I want to go all the way in through and Beyond the song It's a portal. So I'm going to pass it to a NASA Troutman. Oh my goodness. Well guys, I'm having such a complex set of feelings emotions and experiences right now in my life. I couldn't choose one song so I decided to choose an overture because it has multiple songs embedded and why / - sure that's what Overture means teach me. Wow, weird, that's good. Which which was which Wiz I'm just want us to be clear because there was of there was TV live live with Mary J Blige production. I'm just like 20 times. You can't deny its existence and nausea. Listen to people over for you. I will help you out. That's gone. Awry. It's time for a re treat. I'm gonna go with Adrian on sabbatical. Yes. I am on the island. It wasn't easy to come here, but it's just, you know, you can't you can't beat Quincy Jones Diana Ross and Michael Jackson all in one. Special interests on the section for brand new day. Okay, that's my aspiration. That's fair. I'm trying to be dancing around in the yellow bikini right now. Okay, let's get there. Let's get that. Do you have a yellow beak? Autumn listen I don't have a yellow bikini, but I have a purple one and I have a black one with purple flowers. All right, I'm going I'm going to find a yellow bikini for you for your birthday. That's what I'm fine. Thank you. Yeah, I accept I accept. All right, Autumn lay it on us. Hmm. Well II similarly have two songs that represent what feel like to me like two different extremes of an emotional relational experiences. Science one is the first track off of banks as new album. Thanks is like a I think she's self describes her her musical work as dark R&B darkened beef, but she's like a white girl. I don't know, but she sounds amazing and her new album three the first track off of it is called till now so you And my sister and it's basically like auto-tuned meditation on like leaving an abusive relationship with a gaslighting person. It's fucking amazing and it's like an excellent first song off of an album when I got to see her perform it live a few weeks ago and it was like an incredible then the other song that is giving me life and has been for months. Now. This was my summer song and now it's my fault song. It's like my My like probably for the next year. It's an older song. It's off of its by kalila off of her 2013 album cup for you. But for me, it's called Bankhead. So is this like you know, it's like the sexiest song about like being in love with someone in secret and it's the hottest sex ever and like it's all like Airy and like breathy, but also like full throat if you know what I'm saying. So anyway, I feel like kind of songs full full throat. Those two songs are really like, you know, they're bridging their bridging a full body experience that I recommend everyone have that sounds so exciting and that also isn't this song Bluff on that little album. I'm calling you have love in a way. You're really leaving. Oh, that's just so good. All right. Well, I need to go listen at out from now. All right, this is fun. This is definitely going on the next playlist. I'm really excited about this place podcast playlist. Never never maybe the name of the playoffs will emerge in our conversation. Yeah, we'll see if we get there by then. I'm really excited to have this conversation with you. So I think in our last conversation that in us and I had we were having like a little side chat about this new show on Netflix called raising Dion. I hear you. Have you ever wondered what it's like to raise a superhero? Put it back right now. How do you give him a normal childhood? It's just this beautiful story of a single mother actually a widow raising her her child in Atlanta who turns out to have superpowers and what's a really captivating is that this is in kind of like a year or like 2 years of magical Whimsy superhero Supernatural? All speculative fiction that's that's emerging around black stories that are being told. So I'm really excited to have this conversation. I want to start without. I mean, have you all watch it all have you seen it? So I've been watching it since you told us like this is what you were going to want to talk about. I was like, this is one of those opportunities were watching science fiction is actually being given to me as homework and I love when those moments happen. I was like, I'm sorry. I can't hang out with anyone right now. I have to prepare for my podcast. It's recording. So I've been binge-watching it for the past day and a half and I love this show like it's really surprising. It's really well cast its the story is so realistic like it's like the magic is in there and there's all kinds of Science Fiction elements, but just the actual dynamics of this mother trying to raise this seven-year-old by herself and trying to make ends meet and trying to deal with her grief. And trying to deal with the big questions and then all the sudden like I have only magical children around me and I'm just like oh, yeah that moment when a child that you love starts to claim their power, whatever that looks like, you're just like holy snap. You think that yes, you can run really fast. Now you think you can just run anywhere. How do I keep you safe? There's so much of this this show. That's like, how do I keep a child safe in this time? And there's so many elements that I just thought were so I love that the the best friend is a little girl in a wheelchair who is just like got a badass attitude and like she's just I loved yeah, there's so many parts of this and I'm like that was good you hit the mark. So thank you so much for calling us into conversation around this. I'm like, yes. This is Autumn. I I haven't gotten to watch again. I was able to watch the trailer after you teed it up for us and and I have to say it was like You know, I think I was saying before we hit record that that in large part because of like the motherfucker of a year that I've had over the last year of my life. I haven't had the focus to be able to really watch TV and but the trailer for this show really caught my attention and felt like oh this actually could be a really good entry point for me back into pop culture and like all the things that I feel like I'm kind of Missing right now because I'm caught up in my own life and I have to say as a parent of three very very special individuals. There was something in watching the trailer that felt very like I don't want to say triggering that's too strong of a word but just like that felt very familiar to me. Yes, because because each of my children up here to have a superpower of some kind to me and and for one of them her particular superpower is something that definitely does seem to expose her to danger. And so yeah, I just feel like I'm going to be I'm going to be watching this show probably was like a very vulnerable heart as a mom. You know, I didn't say. It's I was thinking of you and the baby the nibbling the whole time and thinking of a couple of the nib things the moms and nibbling Xin my world where I'm just sort of like I see this happening already where this child is just starting to call on here's everything. I've got in me and like the same way that you would as any human being but as a child human being is just like one day you thought and it's all based on longing which I think is one of the most magical pieces of this is that The powers that each person has in the show are really rooted in what their longing for either longing to stop or longing to call close to them or where their longing to be at which I'm just like, oh, you know like that's so often. I feel like super powers are presented as here's what I can do for other people like here's how I can save someone random strangers random people whatever and I think to me that's one of the most interesting conceits of this. This one is that mostly so far. The superpowers are like I want to be somewhere. I want to be with someone. I want to be near someone I want to be safe. So there's there is like beginning to be a little bit of the saving and helping that I'm about five or six episodes in so I see some of that starting to emerge but it starts with I want to play with these Legos. Now the Legos are up in the air floating now, it's magic. I want to give my mom a magical moment or whatever. I'm like, oh, yes. The thing I love about this shows all the things I don't dollar said but when I look at the way the show is crafted like the care that was taken with this show in terms of Storytelling the acting the little boy is like my favorite actor in the whole entire world right now. He's so good so yummy, I love that kid and to be able to Have like such a like if the juxtaposition of like the realness and the reality of the show because it's like there's nothing fantastic about the everyday life with this this little boy and his mom is like a legit story that you can find all over Atlanta all over Atlanta. There's kids like him all over women like her all over like that right next to the super fantastic amazing like the way that Michael B Jordan comes in and out the like I'm with his fine ass. But here's what I seriously yeah, he's like he's like I produced this show so that I could show up in it in the most magical possible it just when you need to have a dream papa show up with a beautiful mouth there. He is. Just dreamy. I think about this two things. It makes me think about what is like the company that produced this show macro and like the work that they have done over the past few years to be able to just like Be magical in that space and have to be so gorgeous. But also makes me think about the lineage. We've been talking a lot about the lineage of this kind of work. We talked about the water dancer in this show. And yeah all the things that we're all totally geeking out over and that's one of the reasons why this was it going to be exciting to talk to you two about it won't because I think that the two of you together are superheroes like I think individually, yes. Power activate thing and it like it's the thing. I love most about each of you individually as who you are with your sister. And so that's and that's why I mean it but the other thing is like of all the people that I know in the world like you all are the ones in terms of the lineage of this world who were like down all the way back in the day when I was speaking out as a youngster and looking around like who are the other people who love this and it was a literally just a to Oh of you lonely I'm like Welcome to our lives. And that's it. That's kind of like what it's been like growing up is just like does anyone else like this my sister? I can't wrap her in a room and we can talk about poetry and sci-fi and like Shelia. Yes. Yes. Yes. A I know what you come it's exciting and the thing that you know that this company macro are the same people who are doing the xenogenesis series TV show stop it. Okay. Got it. That's great. Yeah, that's good. Okay, and now because when I first heard that I was like, oh, no, they better not now I'm like, oh, yeah, I can do it. Okay now they can do it because it feels like a Sci-Fi show to like, they're not I like how they're doing it where they're not so far. They're they're they're using Um special effects and stuff like that, but they're really playing inside of nature in a way that I really enjoy like they're working with the natural elements like a part of the conceit is that the father who is now missing they think dead or swallowed up into some other realm or something. He was a storm chaser and so there's this whole part where it's like, what is the relationship with nature and how much of what Dion's powers are are tied in with that capacity. CD to manipulate nature which of course immediately brought me back to Octavia superheroes like Octavia. I feel like Road this over and over again is like, oh what are the powers that are tied in with either our natural capacity like hyper empathy or tied in with being able to transform and move around the things around me. So when I think of like on yanbu, it's like she was like I can manipulate the material of the the tangible world, right? I'm like that's all Dion is doing is I Like he's learning. How do I manage I can manipulate and I also love the playfulness of it like that. You know, Lauren elemina octavia's like most relevant hero for this moment. I think Lauren Alameda is this young baby person, you know like this young leader and I'm like odion's half her age even younger. Yeah, I'm seven years old. And so there's whereas Lord all I mean, it's like, oh you could leave people. I'm like d on your You still need to be held and guided and like you need someone to help support you and you know item I just kept thinking of your kiddos in this because I'm just like they do have these super powers, but they're so young right now that they have to have someone who helps them figure out. Like, how do I run? All this lightning power down to the Earth? How do I reconnect with breath? Like, how do I how do I use this power for good? And I also think it's a great show and it comes to bullying there's a Apart around. Okay, so you're a different kid and it shows and you're going to get bullied and like how do we help our kids be moved and survive this new bullying process. Well, it is interesting to thinking about you know, what you were saying earlier Adrian about, you know, the superpowers kind of like coalescing around what the character is longing for or longing towards Versus you know, a typical representation of superpowers as being like a savior or a sacrifice. Yeah kind of relationship and I think about like I mean again, I haven't seen the show yet. So I don't really know but I think I think one of the things that we see more of in and any kind of like afro-futurist Asian related to the like sci-fi Trope of superpowers is that the superpowers are often in relationship to a vulnerability? Yes, and which makes sense right and makes sense that like from the perspective of like those of us who live inside of various kinds of marginalization Zoar historical trauma that you know, we have an embodied sense that the things that make us most vulnerable are the things that make us most powerful obviously. And then it's interesting to think about how that translates into, you know, the complexity of parenting children with that lens because I certainly see it with my own kids and also just with children generally at this at this particular moment in time that that we're raising children. We're raising a generation of children who are in a highly vulnerable. Next yes, and hmm and I think some of the some of the Dynamics that I feel like we're already starting to see emerge in that is that like like my kids for instance one of the superpowers that they have is boundaries. Like they have they are hyper aware of what their boundaries are and like and really really really effective at communicating. Them. I had an experience just the other day with with my middle child who sometimes will do this sort of Developmental regression thing where she'll start speaking in a baby voice and and it just drives me up the wall. Right? And I understand where it comes from but it really drives me up the wall. And so sometimes I'll say to her like she'll start talking in her baby voice and I'll be like, oh I want you to use your nine-year-old boy's and the other day. She said to me she's like Mom, my voice is mine to use as I choose. You can't control how I use my voice and you and I looked at her I looked at her like okay, and then and then she looks at me and she's like you can't say anything to that. It's so powerful right these little boundary like that level of like she is really, you know, even inside of little like being raised and living inside a more vulnerable context is all of our children are you know, whether their children of color? Or not like living under a climate apocalypse is like a very vulnerable condition to live in and she's really inside that she's really in her agency about her body and her voice and that to me feels like super super super power e, you know, yes, right. I mean, she's like, I I tell people all the time I believe in Collective process. I believe in consensus. And like I would absolutely abdicate power to her and we'll probably I do often. I'm like I call it and do often. Yeah, like you you're she generally is right. She's generally write about things. So yeah. Be responsible for the development of another person especially in the in the context of such vulnerability where you you can help to cultivate that part of them in a way that keeps them safe, but they never lose themselves. That's right. Yes like that. I can't even imagine well and I think it is it is it's a sorry. I was just going to say I think it's like that's the it's the the it's like a such an incredible honor and it's such a complex responsibility to hold because of course as like any of us who were any black person who was raised by other black people knows that like most of our history of being raised in the black community is, you know, being taught often through violence how to make yourself smaller for the sake of safety. That's right. Like that's how that's how many of us are trained to survive in navigating cope. The conditions so the new generation I think is showing us like that old way doesn't work. We actually have to be even more large and Powerful if we're going to survive and it's challenging as a parent to be like, how do I support you being as large and Powerful in your spirit as you actually need to be while also not exposing you to even more danger. It's really it can be very scary. Well, and that's That's what I wanted to say just really quickly was the mom. I really love the Mother character because you get to see she just shows the struggle the pain of being a mob all by yourself with this magical child wanting to be in right relationship with your child. Loving them making them feel safe making them feel seen while also navigating and you're about to go into a world where you're not safe and how do I help you? Feel safe while Moving to the real world, which is not safe. It's they do such a good job. She does such a good job just on her face showing what that feels like even in this conversation. I'm like and breathe because that's a real feeling because as Many of you know, both of those who are listening and homies on this conversation for me. I saw a lot of my own both childhood and impending Parenthood that's reflected in this story. Yeah. So for my mother, you know, when I was born, my mother was a widow and remember those moments where I was just longing right for stories of father who I wanted to know. No, but I all I had were the amulets or the trinkets or the things that I could hold onto was often was like my name. So I remember learning how to write my name and asking the question. Oh, how am I the third? Who's the second? Whoa. Oh Calvin. I did not know all that that's amazing. It's and it's been such a journey now on this phase. Like I see the show. Show and I'm able now to have anchors on on. multiple sides of the compassion that I now can hold for that young child who's yearning to no apparent that there just just in constant conversation with just by navigating life and then for a parent who wants to hold enough compassion for their own grief their own like I just saw my mother threw that nice right and I I think Even now with with expecting to raise raising a child almost slipped up and said the name, oops, okay. Apply one of the most potent. Yeah scenes. There's actually the only episode I watched twice was the the episode where the mother has to give D on the talk. Yes, because he was about to be suspended for school for fight that he actually didn't have. Yes, right. And and so it was so real thinking right so mad I was so had this positive video I couldn't even watch it. Yeah. So what are the spaces that we can create for young people? To fully step into their truth and their power and I just want to learn like I was taking like a master class from you right now ottoman. Like how do you create space for a beloved young one? Who's in your life or your child or someone else to be fully in their power? And and I'm going to be sitting with that probably forever. Yeah. It's a lifelong. It's totally lifelong work and you know think it's you know, the reality of And right is that they also it's so beautiful to hear you talking about your own history in relationship to the child that is coming to you and is about to receive all of the amazing love that you have to offer. So like Lucky them and you know for sure one of my experience at like one things that has consistently been true in my journey as a parent is that like your children should reveal yourself to you in a way that no one else can can and nothing nothing else can like they just they mirror back to you exactly what your work is and it's a gift if you can receive it as a gift and that can sometimes very day by day. So that's right what I hear I also think it's so important for people who are doing parenting right now Calvin Autumn everyone. It's like to have shows like this that don't pull the punches around. The power dynamics you have to navigate around these miraculous children. Who because there's so many people like they're coming up against people who are still trying to hold the status quo of current Society don't realize something is evolving in your midst in your hands and your face and you don't even see it and right now so many parents are like that's like everything is evolving right in front of us and we have to be able to see it. Even if we can't we won't make it all the way with them. Yeah, you better pray. Hallelujah. Oh, I wish we had more time for this recorded conversation. Although I know they'll be much more time to have it online offline. We're going to have to bring y'all on our show to will have to do it. Are more about what you may be working on and again like this perfect opportunity to have this conversation with you all as Visionary Riders speculative writers. So if there is anything that is bubbling up in your creative worlds that you would like to share want to give the opportunity to share that with the we verse each other's okay. I was going to say tell them about the novel. We have a podcast called how to survive the end of the world. Where there's two recent excellent episodes from Autumn one talking about indigenous World Views and power dynamics and presence and one talking about a new economy that I'm highly like basically recommending to everyone because I stand for Autumn and our podcast. We're about to right after we hang up with you. We're going to get on with Charlene Carruthers and talk about this upcoming election. And how do those of us who don't really give a fuck about the election deal with the Check that it's taken over everything and be in right relationship better show yourself as who you are. So that's the primary question there. I am working on a new book facilitation and mediation book. So after we finish all these little recordings, I'm back into writing Retreat mode. And then I'm heading on a sabbatical this year. So those are some of the things that I'm up to and excited about Autumn. What about you? Let's see. I am I am completing my first novel and it's very close to done. You know, you get I feel like with these kinds of projects you're sort of like will it ever be done? But I do believe it's going to be complete and I'm also very slowly working on an album. Music music project with my dear friend and collaborator Nehemiah Luckett. So yeah, and then I'm just ever involved in the creative work of like parenting which really is it's a creative process and and it helps me when I think about it that way. I'm waiting for your call. Y'all are like sisters once removed. Just get out it into it C string. Thank you so much for having us. Thanks for everything and honor this is awesome. And I'm really excited that you put me onto a new show and Calvin have a good baby. I made this baby. Have a good parent. You're gonna do great. We're held well, and we're just the only advice I can give you truly is get a waterproof pad for your bed. Okay? That's right. That's right GameChanger. That way. I don't have to get up to the Bell. It's so great. All right. Good night. And don't forget to tweet us follow us on Instagram and Facebook at the big we podcast again. That's at the big we podcast drop us a line at hello at the big we podcast.com and you can find us at our website the big we podcast.com and anywhere you get your podcast and don't forget to leave a review lastly. You want to give a shout out to a few very special people who make this program happen starting first with our producer. We am got bun the wonderful Paola mattered son who is taking care of our post-production audio editing and Sound Engineering and a humongous. Shout out to creative stay out National My Guy Brian Sexton and this amazing theme music featuring Patrick Brooks AKA Cadence pattin andronicus Hawkins AKA nigga speaks, and of course. To you our beautiful beloved listeners. We love you so much. This has been the big we
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