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The more you are tuned in to AfterBuzz TV the ESPN of TB top now look, Begin, yeah, have a great show today you guys I'm your host Miss Conversation Piece and I have Brianna with me. No today. We have a little bit of news and gossip. We have a special segment invasion of the closet snatchers plus some trending tweet. So we don't get right into our overall thoughts of the episode. What did you think about this one? This episode was so interesting because I see Phoebe in a whole new light now. I'm a touch on on it a little later, but overall it. I know it's low-key the Calm before the storm. So he's ready for it. Oh, yeah. This was definitely the Calm before the storm. I'm glad that you know, we see some apologies happening whether they're genuine or not. Who knows but they're trying to be cordial so they can all be in one place. So they ended up having the twerking session at the end of the trip and I feel like I know g - oh jeez, but you know, they ended up having Fine and that's what it's all about. Yeah, like so the episode opens up with Jen and Evelyn still kind of hugging it out. And we see the other girls are called in there. Like what was happening up there is taking a long time. Yeah and hit with a pot, you know, but that's a valid question that's valid well to their surprise no one was hurt and it was a few tears, but they got through it and it was just good to see them come together and have breakfast and be Able to see that the table because when they first arrived they were like, I don't even wanna be in the same room. Let alone room the same house. You need to go to the guest house. Yeah. Just seeing them sit down was good. Yeah, I mean, that's a great first step. Unfortunately. I don't feel like it's going to last and it's not even and their past history aside because I saw an article from rolling out and they were kind of introducing Dominique and she was kind of hinting. Along the lines of you know, my loyalty to my friends are very clear. Like this is the type of group where you can lose yourself and you got to stay true to who you are. And so she kept saying like you'll see within the season that like you can't be on the fence. You got to pick a side because I pick side clearly. There must be another issue going on if she felt like she had to pick a side again. So obviously, I'm sure she picked Jennifer the end of the day she says things and she said some things and did some things Evelyn. I mean I was like no no, I mean And so they really miss each other. We can tell like the tears are flowing 20 years. So just hope it does last and they'll have another 20 years of friendship. I think it'll tell you optimistic. I want them to stop being mad. I mean, I feel like there's a certain time where it's okay to be mad at your friend and let that friendship go like not everybody is for you sometimes some relationships have an expiration date and that might have ran its course. Like why would you want to force yourself to hold on to? Thing just because you have numbers in it. That's true. Toxic is toxic. Yeah, it was surprised. She dropped her fork when she was like what apology exactly exactly. So Malaysia is not so forgiving but she ended up I guess accepting whatever was thrown her way, but Eve she accepted the apology, but she's not really ready to hang with everybody still even though she's just like, you know, I I took the Apollo Balaji but I'm still I got my own you. Yeah, and as she should lie me they've gone through something so many times already. It's like you can't just have a blind eye to someone just because he said I'm sorry that's stupid. Well, they end up getting in the car together. All of all of the like they take a little trip to have fun on the island. They ride bikes and go cards and almost get run over by cars because they were really in the street. Like I don't think you should be in go-karts like that. That's dangerous. No, you shouldn't be but I like You shouldn't be a that's why Kristin was like I want to have more one more baby because they were Reckless. Yeah, you can be driving off fast on these islands like that CeCe didn't make it to Mexico, of course, maybe but her name keeps coming up. No, she went to Mexico she and make it. Yeah the other Island where I mean Saint Diego where they are because she's in Mexico with her man. Yeah. Do you feel like a lot of the ladies are a little jealous because she's having a vacay with her man and they're all like kind of of single and I don't except for OG her man is overseas. I think they are just very clicky. I don't even think it's so much as jealousy. I feel like they're just really quickly. So if one person has a problem then everybody has to have a problem and I peeped that when Jennifer and Evelyn like reconnected and they were having that Kumbaya moment or whatever by the beach when they were having lunch and then Jennifer made a comment about CC taking advantage of G and how oh jeez of puppet and I'm like, whoa, where was that energy before? Well CC also wanted OG and these came from modi's mouth wanted her to say some things and OG was kind of hesitant because she was like, I want to get everybody in one room or everybody on one call on one Accord because I don't want this he say she say and I think she's smart because that's exactly what happened to Jin exactly and that's, you know, very reminiscent of her scenario because You know, that's when Malaysia through the table right because of the he say she say so, yeah after all that Jen and Malaysia, they're still having issues. But Jen says she will coexist with Malaysia Malaysia. She's still not having it. But whatever she doesn't want to talk about it, but I feel like this was a good trip to get it all out. Even though it kind of is like can we just have fun? Yeah, but when are we ever going to resolve it if we don't ever talk about it? Do you think it was bad timing because I know like a lot of eyes were rolling with OG bra stuff up at the table. You know, I think oh geez timing is just always off. I don't think that was the appropriate time to do when everybody's already having a good time having lunch. Nobody is even thinking about any drama. I think she should have took that back to the house. But I do I do recognize that it was a good thing that she did bring it up in front of everyone. Yeah. I feel like that's the only time you're going to get everyone because I feel like when you get to the house Somebody's going to be tired. I want to lay down and there room for some reason. I want to be by the pool. Somebody's gonna get a kitchen. So it was not the best timing for everyone else but I think it was great her. Yeah to get it out. And another point was being made that whenever OG does address something she gets crucified, but the other ladies have done far worse. They actually thrown drinks days actually Thrones everything actually grown hands. Yes gotten each others face screaming it through we All that through bushes, they all sang and she gets crucified for just speaking her mind. Yes that happening. I think it's just because nobody was in the mental space to have to deal with that. So even though it might be a good time for you individually. You have to think about your audience if your audience isn't cognizant of what you're talking about. Nobody's going to receive it the right way. Well, yeah, she could have made me say hey House of meeting later tonight everybody. Prep them a little bit more like she just dropped it like okay, so no iits she sips her want. Yeah, like you kind of remember what this group it's about timing and tone and of one of those things are off. Everything is off balance and you're not going to get anywhere. Yes, and we have to remember our fans and how much love they show us, but let them know. Yes, we have to show you guys so much love. Thank you so much for making AfterBuzz TV the ESPN of TV talk. We appreciate you guys watching with us every week. You guys are so faithful and awesome. We love you so much. Make sure to like comment and subscribe on our YouTube channel. If you're listening to us on iTunes. Make sure you give us a five star rating and follow us on all our social media. We take notes of everybody's comments. So tell us what we're doing great. Tell us what you think we need to work on and just you know spread a little love this way just shuts The Laughing it to you too short, but we appreciate you and we just just have to appreciate the fact that CC has found love 48 she's getting married. She says she's glad she waited this long and I can kind of see where she, you know, probably lived her life seems like she's very successful in the business so I can see her like living it up in her 20s. She's so beautiful and you know, but she's also smart and she's you know, very business minded. So I think this is a good time and as she said she doesn't believe in divorce. Like her family. Yeah been together Mom and Dad 46 years. I mean, I do think it's a I don't know 48 it kind of scares me because I feel like when you reach a certain age, you're set in your ways and you're not really willing to change a little bit and I feel like no matter what people say mmmmmm average changes the relationship and so part of me is kind of like maybe if she had experienced previously in a marriage then she would no little things to work on as a wife or to improve on or what to look for. That's what marriage counseling is for but why I got to that point though because like there's no they have premarital counseling no premarital. Yeah. I mean, yeah, that is an option too. But sometimes that doesn't stop anything from happening in the future because you can do all that in the moment and then by next week all that goes out the window after one argument. So that's just my personal thing. I personally have a problem with commitment. So everything about that stuff scares. To me, but kudos to you because I think I really have her back like the conversations that I hear them. Have. I feel like he's going hard now and I feel like she's very submissive and that's probably what he likes a lot of men especially if they're going to be your husband wants their wives to submit to them you think so. Yeah. They think that's in the Bible so busy all built to be Nobody's Wife not something. You gotta send mean give up your voice. It just means let him make the choice you give this a good suggestion and he makes the final decision you just go along with I was not expecting this car. I don't know. That's what you do. And that I would you know be able to take direction from because I believe in him and his decisions would be you know beneficial to us. So I would okay. Well, I mean hey, you know to each his own. I don't know. There's just something about this word submissive that kind of just boom like, I don't know. I want to be able to lead and him not feel emasculated by me leading. I like my man to take a step back and I have a lot of personality so I don't want him to feel Intimidated by that. Yeah. Well, she looked gorgeous Shrine on these gowns, her mom is super excited her friend Ross. I don't know like how long do you think it would take to find a gown the right one? Do you think it's like a long process? Because he hates she said this is her first time put the gown on. I haven't put on one either so I just can't wait for the day. I know most girls. I know you probably not wait. We wait for the day. I like that. I like the glamour of it. Me like the lady that Mary herself, but y'all come to my wedding to my son. I'll just go straight to the reception and have a have a bomb dressed if you like celebrate me, but I don't know I think finding the right dress is it's a lot of pressure especially when is your very first wedding because you're looking for the perfect girl why you keep saying first wedding like it's her first know it's proposed to be more than one not supposed to be but it ends up being like that. I mean there's something out here like five. Vincent's, so I'm just saying it since a like it's a lot of pressure to make sure like, this is the absolute perfect dress because you don't want to do it a second time so it could I don't know but she's smart with going on that diet and making sure her body is the right because she knows the dress that she wants girl. She better get a personal trainer. Yeah, he was drinking water and that's it. Does that work? Like I was wondering how that how that work. You're not hungry and just water with us. Oh, that's a thing. I was hungry looking at her right? Okay star for this man. But Byron is easy. They they looked so happy after their trip. Like I can see the love in the air. Like I'm so happy for them and a little tidbit. Don't be here. Well ECC will maybe Byron next week. So you guys stay tuned for all of that. But basically CC gets clarification of like what was the conversation between him and Malaysia and he Says, you know what? He's been saying. I hadn't said it about ammunition. I didn't say anything like that. It just came out in conversation and you know things transpired. I don't I just don't think it was malicious. The girls are constantly dragging this out viruses. Let's move on. Yeah. Do you think it's just because he's a man or I think it's because he's a man because men don't want anything to do with women's mess and it's not gossip and all that stuff. I think it's because he's an old man because he just doesn't have the patience for it. Shade, but he's older and I just think it is time. Like I feel the same way. It's time to move on. Well, like you say is if all of them and it's just him and CCI like that like that's what I'm saying. He's a real man older or not. When you put your woman first this was supposed to do so, I like that that conversation that they had and CC's also happy with it, but she's not happy that the kids aren't happy. Yeah and I don't know how they're going to resolve it. He said he's going to sit down with them. But he's like if they don't come what it is what it is. So I don't know what to say about that because Thomas and Kristen when they were talking Thomas is the same way. He's like I don't like how Cici move. Yeah, so that was the first time we really seen Thomas say something about CC specifically. Yeah. I don't know what's going to happen. But I mean, they're all groan. It's not like she has to live in a house with them. So it's not like You know you marry somebody with teenagers and you got to help raise this right? So I think that's why I was a little less pressure for cc and just like but but I know she's big on family and she wants to be a family but there's some underlying issue that they won't tell us about but we don't get to see when they come here next week. Okay, June Dominican OG they sit down and talk about how Malaysia feels like she was being used by Jen. This is what she's been saying and watch. She threw the table. She said I should do the table, right? This is why and like I said the comparison of they're trying to say CC using OG because she's not as aggressive. So on the flipside Shawnee Malaysia and Jackie are sitting there talking and Malaysia is upset because Evelyn is basically speaking for Jan saying you know how she feels about what Malaysia is doing, but I don't understand why Malaysia is so mad because it none of it was directed towards Malaysia like it was all about like what she said and she did say it. So like why she's so mad. I think Malaysia is just mad because she's Looking at Evelyn like okay just because you made up with this girl doesn't mean I have to now I get it but what I'm saying is the puppet thing right? You said it we don't know jeans intentions and why should I don't understand why she's mad about that. Like I could see in a moment where it's like all this, you know people in your face like this. She said what happened I could see her being mad in the moment throwing the table, but I'm saying if this point whereas not forgivable like I can't talk to Jen like I don't get that. I think some of it is pride because Malaysia just feels like you really thought I was stupid enough that you think you thought you could play me and at that time Jennifer didn't have friends like that. Like she wasn't cool with the click like that. Malaysia was one of the people that was like, you know cool, right. So for her to probably try to take advantage of Malaysia's kindness and use her as a puppet to do her dirty work. I can understand your feeling some type of way because Malaysia doesn't just call. Everybody her friend. So for her to take her aside and stick up for her and try to bend the middle person and then you basically think you can walk all over me like no that's not going to work. Yeah, she wasn't buying the apology and yet and still she says that she will apologize for throwing the table. She did do that that was wrong. But you know, like you said you don't have to be friends with everybody if somebody shows you who they are believe them. Yeah away, but don't throw the table. Yeah, and I was wondering I was like is it 50/50? Apology accurate and I'm thinking you know what it is because once you cross that physical boundary, it's a rap. It's a rap. So oh jeez also feeling like it was a drive-by when Malaysia came up to her like before her flight like you ever heard the dry tea and she didn't want to get into an argument with her, but now there's friction. So it's just like, I don't know what Malaysia's place is right now like she's cool with Evelyn and Jackie but I don't know like she's trying to get into these Kristen. Oh gee, then she's trying to still be mad at Jenni. I'm just like girl. Can we find something for you to do? I think she thinks you for yes. I don't know. I think I don't know Malaysia's Malaysia's kind of tough to to understand this season because I think she wants her family to come together, but she needs to realize like she's not exactly doing the best. Nice job at it. Hello. He's coming again. She's using the wrong word exactly ammunition being one of them and it was her wording. It was never Byron and by her was like we'll get into it later. But basically he didn't say it like that. Right? Are you talked about it? Like this was just a conversation. So despite all this the girls still were able to sit down for a dinner at the house. Phoebe was complaining the whole time. So I'm at the food was too bougie and nasty. You should even taste it. No, I don't understand why Phoebe Phoebe field. I don't know if he's just really getting on my nerves and I want to get to this comment real quick was Sarah slowly said she said I can't lie during that feed being OG argument. My mom said something true and it was that Phoebe couldn't admit to OG about the song and she was acting fake and not to jump too far ahead. But that was kind of the cherry on top that really wrapped it up for me when you're done. We're with Phoebe. Yeah, so she was Acting bratty with the food. She's just acting immature the whole time and then the whole thing with oh gee, it's like girl. Bye. Hmm. We've talked about her meeting but OG let the dinner with her prayer in her native tongue. Do we understand apart? Like do you have to know what you're praying know, especially when I thought she said Jackie Christie also saw that hold on now because if I'm Jackie and I hear you say my name in a prayer, although I wait a minute now. What did you say? I need a translator for thank you. I think it was cool. I'm glad like they were ignorant about her praying in her native tongue. And yeah, they're welcome to the change. Yeah, and then and then the drama of course, but then what I was noticing the seating at dinner, like you said about Phoebe and fake she was sitting right by old she was sitting right beside her but she was rapping and then you want to show you little music video honey. So Jen didn't want OG to be blindsided in I commend her for that. So it's just a fine line about spreading the news with these girls because Jen had didn't have the right, I guess to tell OG this year. I mean Jackie told her who told Jackie. Well, Jackie wasn't Jackie. She was on the Instagram. She saw her Instagram. Yes, um, but I don't Jennifer telling. Oh gee, I don't know if it's because Jennifer is just generally messy, but I looked at it as her being messy because I don't know. I just don't see Jennifer and OG having that type of relationship where she feels like she has to have her back in that way. I do because I mean when they came in the house, there was the split it was you and I'm an ecologist literally maybe 48 hours ago. So now I have your back because I rode here with you. I took a six-hour drive with you and now we've been in the house together for two days. So you oh gee you myogi. No, that's not how it goes boo, but she didn't need to give her a heads-up. I mean either way, I feel like OG couldn't handle herself if she was blindsided. Yeah, she could have but as we can see Phoebe was not going to reveal her rap about OG in front of oh gee coz oh Jesus really like you want to guess it's fade or what Bibi was like hunger. What about you know, so Phoebe you had to be able to back up your raps honey. Because yeah, it's real beef in these streets honey. I just think oh gee was a little aggressive when she was talking about I can kill you with my bare hands. I'm okay OG come on now. It doesn't matter she doing it, but it's still too much. It's like OG you took it toward 10:00 and it was only at like a for like I get feeling frustrated because but I think I look at it this way if I come to you and I say, Say do you have a problem me and you tell me no and I know damn well that you're lying. I'm looking at you like you're a week. So I'm not going to go further and be like well duh. Duh, duh. I'm like, oh, you're intimidated. You're scared. I got you. I'm not even gonna do that to you sing. And she was like I get it, you know, we can catch this pay but you don't want to I'll keep my bare hands anyway, so that I don't know. I just thought it was it was a it was aggressive. It was aggressive. I'm like, alright. Oh gee, we get it and that she tried to say when I play football and Sean. Made a good point. She's like, I mean, we're all been around athletes. That doesn't make it okay to think that you know, oh you can get physical. Oh, it's all right, because she's an athlete like that's not all right. Yeah. I think it's a little more room with football because most girls don't play football. So it's a little rough there. He I don't know. Yeah, her finger was like in a split exactly, but we ended up seeing Phoebe's music video. What did you think about her rap skills? Okay. Well we're talking about her rap skills. Um, we watch some of her videos before we came on air and she has some things on her on her page. I'm like, all right. She has some bars. She has some cute bars do not freestyle. You can tell she wrote them before and memorized it fine the music video. I think Jackie nailed it and that's Jackie being a true friend. She gasped her. She's like yes girl, you know your mom you're beautiful, but you need some pointers. True because you can't just be posted up in front of a Bentley for a whole half the whole scene and then you know, you moved to the fence across the street for the next one the direction and the creative mind behind it was lacking. Yeah, they found that with the iPhone girl. They put them on you. Can you with her lure in a Bentley and filmed it but it's cool. You know, you got to start somewhere exactly Nicki Minaj started out in the projects spitting on the stairs. So hey, you can make you girl. Just keep going we gonna try. - your lady wise says Phoebe goes where the wind blows so far. She's sticking with the Evelyn mean girl, I guess so bothered at the fact that Evelyn is so bias that she didn't see anything wrong with Phoebe backing out of admitting that the line was about OG because had that been Jennifer backing out. She'd be like, oh you punk-ass de de de de da Shi acknowledge it but if it was someone else that she didn't mess with she would she would going hot. Going hard in those confessionals. Yeah, that's fake. They're all being fake right now. You've said she has potential though. She also didn't just praise her like, oh my God. This is great as music video. She's like, yeah, she can use some work, but she got potential. Yeah, Jim thought it was mediocre and OG was a big girl and still set there and watched it, but after that she was out. She was like, I ain't working with y'all. Bye, you know, but the rest of the girls ended up having a great But she watched the music video. That's what I told you. She knows her name was I going to be in that music video. She just wants Draya popped on Sunday. Yeah would have probably ended up like that if it would have been one line now, she she was watching for that. Okay, but what I was surprised to see is lazy at the split somebody else I wasn't surprised. Something you know, they be busted it down. Do you not hit the splits one called? I mean that's the comp. I mean this twerking is okay. So, you know, you do every other angle you with your homegirls in the the house, you know, just cranking she probably bought them to split and forgot that she knew how to do it. Hmm. Well one thing that I'm a little confused about because after the trip everybody hits home, they're talking to their family recapping what happened and Kristen is talking to Thomas about why they didn't go to the engagement party and he's not even interested in going to the wedding. Byron is sitting talking to CC saying Byron, I mean sorry Thomas didn't come because of Kristen but remember a few episodes back because we brought this up you guys do some fact checking. She said that she's had a prior engagement when CC invited her so who really has the problem because at first Like we don't want you to come now when PC opens up the invitation you shade her and don't come and make up a lie saying you got a previous engagement and then it comes out later, but I don't think it's it's out for everyone in the open to know right now because they're just airing it but it seems like a discrepancy. What do you think? I don't know because the way things are shot in than edited and produced it's hard to say if there is an issue because Kristen said that There was a walk for her mom for jam session because he didn't he said he didn't want to go Thomas. Yeah, but I'm saying with the way things are edited in like cut together. I mean who's to say that conversation didn't happen like two weeks or two days two days before or whatever. So it's just hard at until you have everybody in the same room and you have a calendar to look at and you there's nothing I can really say about the problem. What I can say is that Leisha doll says Thomas and Been saying nothing. So he's trying to say something now don't check CC check your messy thirsty life. Oh, oh, yeah in the paint in the lab chatter. Hello. Well, we're going to get right into our special segment. Yes invasion of the closet snatch up. Yes everybody. So we have two blond bad he's here and they're also besties and they're no longer Basketball Wives. So we have Duffy here in a black sheer long sleeve and some cheetah pants bent down and then we have Brandy bent down and some don't forget about the little feathers on the sleeves. Yeah. We got some feathers on her sleeves and then Brandis also rocking a cute v-neck blue shirt, the fitted like blue pants with like a red, right? What's it called racing stripe on its really I like the color contrast that she did with it. Yeah. Is like the primary colors? I'm good on her. I like DJ Duffy. Sorry you like Duck. Yeah, do you like her or her closet? I like her closet actually look at some of her Instagram post and I feel like we have similar style like she's very funky and sexy and still not like over-the-top. We like sometimes she might have on a bikini or some lingerie or something, but for her closet, I like Duffy. I like Brandis closet. I love brandies makeup artist. I love Brandi zweig stylist. I love everything Brandy rocks. Honestly, I love the way she puts colors together. It's very simple, but it's not safe. And she she just as well for her body type. She'll just let me very well for her body flies. Duffy's shows too much for me. Sometimes I like a little mystery left in my girl. Hello, that's so it Blends. So if you got it, you know put a little too much time going over there. I'm good. I like Brandis cause I was not sure and he's lost it. All right. Let's get into our Trend and tweets. This is where we pull the top tweets from our super fans talking about the show. We have a tweet from Kurtis Blow OG is getting right down to the point where everybody clap clap clap and yeah, I feel like to get your spot in the respect because Those oh gee, that's shiny. Jackie Tammy. They not going to let you just come in. Like hey girl, we're friends know they're going to put you to the test. So OG has been put to the test time time again and she stand up for herself. So I like it Tiara Terry 7 6 8 says I kind of miss the old Jackie I'm here for it. I know she must be talking about that little Montage about to you by to get that old Jackie. We're going to touch on the previous. Yeah. We're going to talk in the previews eventually guys. Miss Izzy baby says, it's official Phoebe. Not about that life girl. No one like to call you out. You better say you said it and say you did it because fraud okay it is it's a meme of who is this quiet from Married to Medicine throwing up the frost line. Yeah. Oh Jackie is back in effect show. Yo, tell them honey because we here for it. I'm sorry Phoebe. I'm about that life, honey. We done with her look taller. You have Smith 2 5 2 says I think Jennifer should keep her distance with Evelyn because she's very fake and vice versa. I don't know. Yeah, I think they should both stay away from me. Both of them are fake. You might how you just to fake friends, like outside of the relationship. Can't wait to see this is why I have friends for certain things. Like you have friends you go out with friends. You tell your business to friends. You can have family dinner with friends your fake with no not for you think I'm just saying like if you if your surface level we can Go to the club together, but that doesn't mean you come into my house or if you come into my house, I can tell you on my business, but that doesn't mean we're going out together because I have friends like that like some of my friends they married with kids, but they're not going to go out and work with me. You know what I mean? Because we're in two different past life. Yeah, so but that doesn't mean we're fake friends, but we'll see what happens with Jen and Evelyn. Let's get into this news and gossip. So you want to touch on this You should so rolling out has an article about Miss Dominique Leonard and Dominique is of course the newest Basketball Wives star one of our favorites so far. She's so gorgeous. A lot of people have been seeing a lot of positive things about Dominique's does she want to introduce herself to everyone? So basically I touched on this a little bit earlier that she talks about her relationship with Jennifer and tell she's A girl from Detroit and a lot of people thought that she was going to be intimidating. But she said, you know, I'm a pretty cool headed level-headed person and you know, I just ride from my friends. I don't ride the bandwagon. I don't ride the fence. So she my loyalty is clear very true for there because that's exactly how she came into the show and even when she was talking to Jen throughout the show. She was basically like I like the girls. Yeah. Yeah exactly, you know like she was very very truthful and Thing and Jennifer actually said in the show that I don't I'm not threatened by Malaysia's relationship with Dominique. And in the article Dominique said Jennifer is not the type of person that makes me feel like I have to be friends with her and her only so I would love to I'm excited to see how their friendship blossoms so guys definitely check that article out, but do you think she should be leery? Just seeing how she acting with me up 20 years later absolutely, but I feel like I'm hoping that Jennifer will mold into somebody a little bit more mature with the situations that she's gone through now with the ladies. However, Dominique did say just watch for more so we know that there's a falling out that's going to happen. Oh Lord, so we'll just see who's right and wrong and making the fall in now. It's not looking good for Shaunie and Tami it seems as if Tammy has unfold Shawnee on Instagram. Yeah. I knew there was something going on. Yeah, something's going on here. But the thing About it is sunny still following Tammy. So she doesn't seem to have a grudge but it seems to me is over the whole situation of basketball why she doesn't want to talk about it anymore. She don't want to be at these ponderosas anymore. She's done. She's married and happy and think I think it's it's a good time to exit. Definitely. I mean it once you've you feel like you're done you're done. It's all about your mental state and if she's if her if it's costing her something mentally. Emotionally physically anything like that and you're trying to do better in your life. Then you got to move on. Yeah fans are pouring into the comments and shines not her friend shiny is not a good friend to Tammy and has never been I'm glad Tammy's been distancing herself from the toxic girls in the group. And another one says so the F what Tammy just wants to be out of her contract says she don't have to time to be faking cordial with Shaunie. She knows Shaunie don't f with her. So Tammy is moving accordingly and one last comment I've been Kashani to switch don't tell me last weekend. That was the proof and that's period 100 dine. All right. So yeah, people are seeing that something's going on. I knew that followed and she's basically it seems like in that Montage. She's like I'm done. I'm like, yeah, I mean that was clear when she Johnny wasn't at her engagement announcement party and I said it on the episode y'all look back. I said even though she wasn't there. Um, what's her name? Tammy would have said. Oh yeah Shaunie was invited but she couldn't come because it it up because she did that for Malaysia. Oh, yeah, so I knew something was off. All right. Well, let's talk about this midseason trailer. Oh honey. It was a lot of cheese, but it was like Evelyn Colin ogl talking about MF. You got natural assets. Your man still ain't put a ring on it, but she been through three Basketball Association. I mean ball-playing Association And don't have a man. So how can you talk honey? And then she was talking about? Oh jeez, man would play with her assets if he got the opportunity. Sorry. I was a little disappointed I ever was showing out like that. I was disappointed in seeing Jackie while out like that got a picture of Jackie how she got in that girl's face the photo if we have it was doing so good. Look at her in Malaysia doing so well. Well, but whatever Malaysia did next episode honey. My think it's Malaysia doing I think Malaysia was confronting Jackie because they made her take a lie detector test about starting rumors or whatever and I think everybody's just trying to figure out Jackie. What rumor did you start and I feel like it was probably about Malaysia Malaysia is like yo, what's up Jack? He's just mad what how she's in her like she won't bite her something. But Jackie doesn't want it with Malaysia though. That's She look mad man. Jackie has made that face many times and got her touched many times because she'd gotten Brooks face when Brooke was on the season and Brooke mess her up and they didn't even show it. That's how bad it was. Whoo. Well, we just hope it doesn't get bad because it look like she threw a chair Malaysia and we hope that doesn't happen CC goes crazy. I'm like what? Well I can imagine all that spit those going back and forth about you. Sure. No, you sure no you sure. First of all, everybody calm down everybody needs to relax. I don't think they're gonna be calming down and he soon anytime soon. Tammy's done with the show. Yeah, the old Jackie's back, but I do have a little video that I want to show because like we said we watched some videos off of Phoebe's social media. So I just want to show you guys the actual video from her Instagram page of her rapping and you can hear the comment for you. And sivaji should put them hands on and catch the fade. Let us let us see that clip really quickly. If you don't mind Josh. Yeah Phoebe's are rappard. Okay. So on a scale of 1 to 10, where do you feel like Phoebe is right now, oh or more skill from there we go. Real freaky bitch suck the skin. That was me. I can't say that was it was it was very general but based off a real life. She said if it if the shoe fits in but OG said it didn't fit so Why I feel like If It Don't Fit Don't get mad and if it don't fly Let it Fly. You know what I mean? Just let it happen. Sarah slowly said, you know Jackie told the producers that they show the fight with Jackie and her cousin. She would quit the show. Also. I heard that Jackie apparently was talking about her kids inappropriate things that happened but you know at the end of the day the ladies have made it through eight seasons. I think they will make it bring in this new fresh crew. True, it's good because Tammy's ready to exit out. So I think everyone should be exiting out. But I think she still looking for a man to figure out her next situation. So she might need to stick around a little bit on Basketball Wives isn't a good look for her if she's trying to find a man. That's just what it is a younger didn't help much obviously. So yeah, well on that note, let's do some predictions. Let's go happened girl. I predict day. It's so hard because we saw that preview I predict that Phoebe is going to get in More Mess. Oh my gosh, we didn't talk about healthy be is going to get into it with Tammy all eventually. Yeah. Oh, yeah, so I definitely see feed be getting into more mess and just backing out. Did I did I did I that's it. Do you think she has longevity on the show? We know the lies on your stuff. That's one thing you got to do. If you're gonna bring it she wanted up looking like Jennifer. Well, I hope not. I hope she gets it together and she starts owning it but Tammy the only reason I say she can go at it with him me and that I feel like the batteries in her back is because she knows him. He's ready to go. So it's like true at this point can we could put hands on her but just like OG said I'm not going to yeah. Married, I'm happy like I'm not even argue to that's why I tell me was like I'm out. So I just really feel like this last little argument is just what sets Tammy off to be like I'm done with you guys and I don't even know if we'll see her anymore because it was so early on in the season when I called on the red carpet and just seeing her a recent interviews where she's been like I'm done with the show. I want to talk about it. So yeah, I think this might be the breaking point for her. So we'll see what happens. We'll see if somebody connected the Cherokee's Malaysian the back of the head. Nobody's gonna touch Malaysia. 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It’s another episode of Afterbuzz TV Basketball Wives Aftershow and Miss Conversation Piece and Breanna discuss all the drama from episode 8. The ladies forgive but arent forgetting the he said she said. Yet they end up twerking it out at the end of the San Diego trip. Plus we finally get Byron’s side of things. Tune in and like, comment, subscribe! The Basketball Wives After Show: Welcome to the La La Land this spin off of where these lavish ladies who are formally linked to basketball stars. The BASKETBALL WIVES AFTER SHOW gives you the inside scoop on all of the drama that comes with being romantic with a baller with a California twist. Tune in here for reviews, recaps and in-depth discussions of the latest episodes, as well as the insider scoop from cast and crew members on the show. ABOUT BASKETBALL WIVES: Basketball Wives LA is the Los Angeles based spin-off of Basketball Wives that premiered August 29, 2011, on VH1. It follows the lives of a group of women who have all been somehow romantically linked to professional basketball players. VH1 has renewed the series for a fourth season, which will premiere on July 12, 2015. 