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I used to think it was from water retention from d bollocksed and banding tissues and pressing on nerves, but the same pain can occur while antibes As well which as you know is a dry oil. So what is the source on this issue? Well, what you're noticing is you're noticing that anabolics increased pumps in all muscles. So some muscles are more susceptible to this than others. So like the lower back is notorious for having pumps, especially from strong anabolic compounds. So really any strong steroid, though can give you these pumps like lower back pumps. We'll talk about that. And so just to describe what a lower back pump feels like for people that haven't experienced it before it feels like the muscle in your lower back is going to explode so it gets so full of blood with a pump like after you've done deadlifts or after you've done bent over barbell rows or when you've done squats and especially if you're on something like d ball or Tren or Anna drawl or You know, even when stroller and of our can do it you can get this really extreme pump in your lower back and it can feel like there's so much pressure inside the muscles that it can feel like it's going to explode and so it's sort of a sharp pain back there that makes you feel like you need to either get on your knees and bend over a bench in front of you to put pressure off of it or like lie down or something. So it's really painful. It's not when you talk about like an extreme lower back pump. It's not something that's fun. And so some people suggest like using supplements like to avoid this like touring as one that you hear frequently, but I personally haven't felt that that is effective some people it does work for them. But I've never noticed the difference from supplementing with touring and I mean if that was the case you should be able to take in. Energy drink, you know and have it go away and we know that that doesn't work. So what's happening is that the the steroids cause these pumps all over the body and if you have these normal muscles that usually aren't getting such an extreme Pump It Can it can cause like that extreme pain. So there are other muscles to that will get extremely pumped sometimes like your feet. Like there's a side effect called Winnie foot. That is it's normal on Winstrol when you're running higher dosages. It like 75 milligrams or a hundred milligrams per day. It would be normal to be walking and to get a pump in the arch of your foot and the the pump could actually get so extreme when you're walking especially if you're walking on an incline like up a hill where the arch of your foot, you know, there's not a lot of room in there for a lot of extra blood there is a muscle there holding the arch of your foot, but there's not a lot of room in there for an extra blood. So if it does get that signal and it does start getting a big pump, it can be extremely painful and Make you actually have to stop walking for a little bit like stop walking for five minutes and have to take a rest. I remember getting this at school a few times when I would walk up the hill to my school and I'd be using Winstrol and I'd get an extreme pump in the arch of my foot and it would get so painful that I'd have to you know, sit on a fire hydrant for five minutes and let it kind of dissipate and then start walking again let the blood drain out of my foot other things that can cause Humps is like cramping. So especially can clenbuterol clenbuterol causes cramping because it excites the muscles it excites the central nervous system. So clenbuterol also makes you stronger when you take the tablet, you know an hour later after taking the tablet you're stronger you'll be able to add like one or two reps to your max lifts that you could normally do. Like if you could normally do a 5 rep max with a with a certain weight you'll be able to do it for like six or seven reps simply. As you took the clenbuterol an hour or so or two earlier and then it makes your brain be able to send a stronger signal to your muscles to contract so they can work harder. And so it keeps your your muscle tone or the tension that is in your muscles a little bit higher all the time clenbuterol. And so it's also gives cramps and you'll notice things like maybe like your tongue cramping a little bit or your fingers cramping a little Or like the same thing like your feet like the arches in your feet. That's that's not uncommon some of these some of these weird spots on your on your body cramping like especially in your in your fingers and in your hands, that's pretty typical or like in your neck or under your jaw in that in that area under your jaw bone below below your chin, but in front of your neck that area can definitely get cramps from clenbuterol. So when you use these performance, Enhancing drugs. It is normal to get some of these pumps and cramps and there's not really much you can do about it that the main the main thing to do is to make sure that your electrolyte balance is like level. That's the best thing you can do to avoid cramps. So having enough salt and having enough potassium and magnesium, you know, if you just salt your food a little bit extra and you eat, you know, at least one Potato per day because potato is of common foods. That's the most potassium heavy food has one potato has about as much potassium as three bananas and then you know, if you are not getting enough magnesium if you just take a little bit of a magnesium supplement like a magnesium tablet. Usually if you take the full tablet, it will give you diarrhea. So if you just crack it into four pieces and take 1/4 tablet of magnesium per day that's usually plenty of magnesium. So then you You get those you get those essential electrolytes. And then if you eat meat you're getting enough calcium anyways, so that's the other electrolyte and but as far as like completely avoiding them like no that's just kind of part of being on Peds is getting some like more extreme pumps. I'll tell you a few things. Usually if you're carved up completely you're a lot more likely to get these kind of extreme pumps. Also Trend and or Let's give these extreme pumps more so than other steroids, like other injectable steroids don't seem to give them as much as tremble own and orals do and it seems like Anna draw and d-ball these ones that carry like more water retention. They volumize the cell more and make more retention of glycogen carbohydrate fuel storage inside the muscle cells. And so that they're storing the cells are stretched more. Or they seem to be the ones that caused the worst pumps but the the diet is probably the most effective way for you to mitigate this generally if you eat less carbs the pumps if you know, if you're getting debilitating pumps then if you less carbs, generally it's not so much like that and also just like a calorie Surplus if you're on a calorie Surplus the pump seem to be a lot more extreme than if you're not on a calorie Surplus. So those are the main It's to take care of it is just making sure that your electrolytes are balanced and then carbs and calorie Surplus being both things that make the pumps more extreme so you can cut back on those but you know having those really that extreme pumps like that painful pumps is a sign that you're really anabolic, you know, gaining strength gaining muscle. I remember during the first time that I ever used Winstrol, I remember It giving me a pump. I think I was I think I was using two tablets per day. I think I was using 50 milligrams per day. I think they were 25 milligram tablets. And I remember the pump in my forearms was so extreme and so rock-hard that literally my forearm felt like a rock it to the touch because it was so full of blood that if you touched it there was no give to the muscle. It was so swollen and the veins the little capillaries in my skin. Actually started exploding during my workout. So I had these little exploded blood vessels like all over my forearms. There was like a definite there was a definite you looked at my arms and there was a little red lines all over the place so I could see them during my workout and that was my first time being on a Winstrol cycle using Winstrol in my cycle. And so that was that was a An example of the pumps and one thing here's another thing is that when you are a new user of steroids and you haven't been using them for as long you're more likely to have these extreme pump side effects. And then as you've been using them for longer, they become less common. But if you have been eating a lot of food and you are in a calorie Surplus, they definitely do always happen and they also are a sign that Super anabolic and that you're you know, making muscle size and strength gains. If you're getting these pumps. That's the answer to that question. Next question is from Jack see no, yes for nextera podcast. Can you go more in depth about high-dose equipoise with medium dose testosterone. I heard about that from your friend from France Pro bodybuilder from France that we had on the show, but we had to take the episode off and I'm curious about the Results. Yeah, so mostly, you know, if you can use testosterone it's a good thing to use people ask, you know, why do you use a higher dosage testosterone or why use higher dose testosterone? So the first thing that I have to say is that most people that say, you know, I don't use a high dose testosterone, you know, I only use 250 milligrams per week. We're 500 milligrams per week. And then they have like a an impressive physique. Most of them are lying so, you know, they're saying They're saying that to you but then they're in their bedroom, you know shooting up all kinds of syringes, you know, and and taking a lot of high dosages of tests. So a lot of guys that you know have like crazy, you know large muscular dense physiques and they're like, oh I'm like onto your tea and I add 40 milligrams and of our and that's my cycle what they mean is that they're on 10 times T RT so, you know one's one cc of testosterone 250 milligrams per week testosterone that's trt right, but, you know care. On a violet this dosterone a week. I mean it just simply not true. You know, they're lying always trust your eyes guys. If you see people if you see people that have physiques that don't look like a normal human being or they don't look like a normal steroid user or you've been using steroids for you know, a couple years and you kind of know like what steroids do and have a feel for it at certain dosages and you see people that are just completely in another like Universe like Just just trust your eyes like you you'll will obviously know that this is not correct. This is not the effect of what they're doing. So not everybody is on one vial of testosterone per week guys. That was kind of a joke when I said that but it's to give you some perspective because you know, a lot of the big guys are on that much or more depending on how big they are but and everybody does different has different cycle protocols Etc. But it does happen. It's not some crazy outlandish thing and you know people talk to me quite a bit. Actually they say like, oh, you know since I've been listening to your content I've noticed That you're a fan of high testosterone cycles, and it's not really that I'm a fan of like really high dosage testosterone Cycles. It's just that I'm honest with you about what I do and I'm alone in my bedroom. So a lot of these guys, you know that are saying like, you know, you know, I'm on trt. You know, I take 250 test a week where I take 500 test a week or something like that and then they're like oh and then I can complement that with saw arms or 40 milligrams of Anna bar per day or something like that. That it's just not true, you know, they're saying that that's what they do, but then they're in their bedroom alone, you know at night shooting up hello syringes. And so even though they're telling you like. Oh, I used this low dosage of testosterone that's not actually what they're doing. And so that's what I'm trying to tell you is that, you know, a thousand milligrams of testosterone per week is not like a really high dosage. It's actually like a pretty normal dosage. It's just that people's perceptions are thrown off because you know, if you go on internet forums, you have all these guys that are saying like don't take a high dosage of testosterone, which is anything more than 500 milligrams a week. And then you have you know other guys on YouTube that are like ifbb pros and shit saying like, oh, you know, I only take 500 milligrams per week and nothing more and stuff like that. But then you know what these guys are doing, you know is trying to tell people, you know, don't take any more than that because then you'll be as big as me and I want to be the biggest person. So the you know, they tell you, you know, it's like do as I say not as I do and so you got to read between the lines on that one one. I usually don't recommend Dave Palumbo's material because he says a lot of stuff that is, you know, not the greatest stuff and some of its inaccurate but other other bits of if you read between the lines and you watch Dave Colombo's show, there's quite a bit of true information in there, but you've definitely got Like be reading between the lines and so one of the things that Dave Palumbo says and this is a quote from Dave Palumbo is every good steroid cycle starts with at least a thousand milligrams of testosterone per week. Okay, that's what he recommends for a beginner's first cycle is a thousand milligrams of testosterone per week. That's his recommendation for a first beginner steroid cycle. Okay, so that was a quote from him and while I don't think that you need to use a thousand milligrams of testosterone per week for your first beginners. Thyroid cycle, I think it's better to use something like, you know, 500 milligrams of testosterone per week with an oral like when stroller and of art or in a ball, that's my recommendation. But you know, it's what he's saying is is true about you know, that's not some kind of insane dosage of testosterone a thousand milligrams per week or like high testosterone. It's just normal if you saw the guys if you could see what they're doing in their bedrooms when they're alone and no one's looking. A lot of people are using around a thousand milligrams of testosterone per week. And then they're just, you know, saying that they use something else when they're talking to you. So that's a lot of people have been asking me about like, why do you recommend high testosterone dosage levels? Because you know, I use basically like, you know, if I'm going to do a cycle I always use about a thousand milligrams of testosterone per week, you know, at least 700 and you know up to 1250 milligrams or even up to a thousand five hundred milligrams. Like if I'm really pushing it more with the testosterone somewhere in that spectrum between 700 and a thousand five hundred is what I use and so people say, you know, like I noticed you're a fan of super high dosage testosterone levels and like really it's not that high. It's just normal, you know, the guys who are really into high testosterone dosages, you know, one vial per week or more another example of this that is confirming that you know what I'm saying about that, you know. Testosterone dosage is generally in reality one vial per week or more would be when Dorian Yates he gave an interview on a YouTube show called London real and in it. He talks about how he experimented with up to 3.5 grams of testosterone per week. And he said that at the time when he was experimenting with that back in the 80s that was considered a lot and that guys who were doing doing two thousand five hundred milligrams or one vial of testosterone per week. We're usually the power lifters. That's a quote from from Dorian Yates. Okay, so he's talking about what guys were doing back in the 80s and what was considered a high testosterone dosage back in the 80s. So you gotta like go look back through this to find out what really is a high testosterone dosage and I'll tell you too that you know higher testosterone dosage is higher than 1.5 grams per week. It does start to get Of side effects for a lot of people like a high blood pressure water retention definitely noticing water retention in the skin outside the muscle. So something like your sock when you remove your sock having an indentation there or laying on the bed on your stomach and noticing lines all over it. When you get up once you start getting over a thousand five hundred milligrams of testosterone per week those side effects for most people do start coming on stronger and you know a thousand milligrams of testosterone. One per week is a great dosage and you can do a lot on that but I'm saying this stuff because you guys have been listening to the podcast for a while and you know while I don't want to promote like high dosage usage to you guys. I do want to help you understand accurately what people actually do to achieve their physiques and what dosages they're actually using what dosages, you know are considered normal or what dosage. Is people in the gyms that you see who are big are actually using not what you have read on the Internet or what somebody on the internet has told you is is big or what is normal but actually in reality when you go to the gym and you see people who are large, you know what they're using. So that's why I'm saying this to you guys, but not everybody does good on high test. And so, you know, Jack Cena was asking about equipoise and that's why we got off on this testosterone rant here was because he was asking about using medium testosterone dosages with high doses of equipoise. And so equipoise is a steroid that it turns into estrogen a lot less than testosterone. If you got big estrogen problems with testosterone or you get big bloating problems, or you get big acne problems or mood issues with testosterone, you know using one of these other steroids instead can definitely be a less side effect option. You know another reason why people use testosterone, you know, as a high dosage thing is because it doesn't really have a lot of Health side effects. You can usually take up to a gram of testosterone per week without really having any bad blood work if you keep your estrogen in check and it's also cheap for a high milligrams and it's very effective like a thousand milligrams of testosterone per week is pretty damn strong at building muscle and strength and it's not very expensive. Pensive compared to you know, a thousand milligrams of other steroids per week. So these are all reasons why people do that, but if you don't want to do that, you know, and you just use 500 or 700 milligrams of testosterone per week and then you can use if you get side effects from testosterone, you know, you can use other stuff like equipoise decada rambling or or the you know, the short acting for the fast-acting ester of deca called nandrolone fennel propionate. That's like It's like a it's similar to testosterone propionate kicks in a few days and then there's also pre mobile. And so equipoise Deca Prima Bolin. Those are like the three mass building injectables that are common other than testosterone that you can use, you know, obviously tremble own as well. But tremble own is another high side effect drug. So I guess you would say that there's there's testosterone then there's Prima Bolin deca. As and tremble own those are the five injectables that most people are building their physiques around or like their basis for their cycles that they build their physiques around and you know, you can go with a lower testosterone dosage and then use a higher dosage of these other compounds if you don't like testosterone and you can use those instead to get your milligrams in there and you can grow muscle just fine. So but just know that you know, most of them are not quite as strong as testosterone, so So, you know two grams of testosterone is stronger than 2 grams of equipoise or primo or Deca not a lot stronger, but that A Little Bit Stronger. It's a little bit stronger. So if you the main thing that you got to know is that most people who are big jacked dudes who you go and you see them at the gym and you say like damn that dude is Jack this fuck, you know the average Surge that these guys are running as somewhere between 1.5 to 2.5 for so grams of gear per week when they're on cycle somewhere between a thousand five hundred milligrams up to around two thousand five hundred milligrams of total steroids combined per week. So that means like, you know, their testosterone there and of are there equipoise their pre mobile and whatever, you know, whatever they're doing their cycle with if you added up the milligrams of all the different steroids that they're on Then you know the total milligram dosage would be somewhere between 1500 to 2500 or so in that range milligrams per week. That's the common dosage that you're going to see you're going to see people outside of those dosages but those are going to be like outliers. Okay, so the majority of the concentration if you made like a graph with dots with people, you know, and what their dosage is where you're generally going to see them within that area if they're the guys that you see at the gym and you say Damn, that dude is jacked as fuck. That's that's going to be it. So if you don't like testosterone and you want to put more milligrams into into getting in that range with other steroids, then that's fine. That's fine. But you know, a lot of other steroids do have some health side effects, you know, they can affect your blood work bad. You got to check your own blood work to see you know, whether or not they do affect your health bad, but you know normally just Ostrom does not affect you. Health badly, it's a bioidentical hormone. Your body knows exactly what to do with it. And then also a lot of these other ones are more expensive. So, you know, even me if I you know, if I had an unlimited supply of pre mobile and for free, all right, I would probably use like, you know, three C's 3 CCS or four cc's of testosterone per week and I'd use like a gram or a gram and a half of Prima Belen per week. You know, that would be even my preference but that's freaking expensive that's frickin. Okay. So these are all different reasons of why you know people do what they do. Hope that clears that up a little bit with going into high doses of equipoise and what it does. Yeah grows grows muscle grade, as long as you're getting in with into that 1.5 to 2.5 or 3 grams or so of total anabolic steroid milligrams per week. You know, if your total if you're using equipoise Prima, Bolin Deca whatever testosterone and getting into that area then you know that's going to be the sufficient amount of roids that you're going to need to have flowing through you in order to be jacked as fuck. Okay. So next question is from for the glory. Okay. Well, I've suffered secondary hypogonadism for a while. It's basically inhibited normal growth and development. I use some natural stuff to help progress my test levels. But it just isn't cutting it. I was wondering though if I could use Prima Boleyn or even low dose and of our Winstrol equipoise instead of actual testosterone to avoid certain sides. I'm not prone to hair loss, but it is a fear. So I've considered Deca only to still interested in competing for their and getting serious with Fitness. So I'm looking for gains as well. Okay. So this guy for the glory he sent me a picture of himself and he's an adult. So he even though he does have secondary hypogonadism and inhibited Some normal growth and development that phase for him is over and he has used some some hormones and stuff. So he's not going to be like growing anymore. He's already an adult. Okay, but you know for guys that have if you do if you did have normal or hypogonadism, which is low testosterone low hormone hormone levels and testicles that are not functioning fully, you know when you went through puberty and you have like a Penis or something like that. You can actually grow it or or like you can actually grow like a couple inches, like possibly, you know, an inch or two onto your height or get some of that normal development like some chest hair appearing or like your your penis growing to you know, what would be its normal length if you had some of those if you would have had normal hormone levels during puberty, you can get some of those benefits still if you did have low hormone levels during puberty and you miss that and now you're an adult and you know, you have some you're lacking some development. So if you do go on like testosterone replacement therapy that can generally it doesn't help guys height very much because they're bone plates already fused and so they can't grow much more but it can help finish off some of that development. So like if they you know, they they didn't have enough hormones. And so it caused their penis to be, you know, not growing as much as it should be You know then going on the the hormone replacement therapy can you know help it to be you know, it's normal size that it would have been if it would have had a complete its development and complete some other development like finishing off some like body hair and facial hair growth and stuff like that. But that's only if you started out, you know, not completing your development during puberty from having low hormone levels, so For guys if they've had hypogonadism and they grew up with that they grew up with that during their teenage years and never completed development hormone replacement therapy can still be something that you can go on and it can help you as an adult even to complete some of that development. So that's one thing with that and now for the glory is asking about using some anabolics. So so hormones that are More on the muscle building and less on the masculinizing side because he says he wants to avoid testosterone because of certain side effects like hair loss. Yeah. So if you don't want to have you know, masculinizing side effects or you know, masculinizing effects from using hormones, then yeah generally staying away from things like testosterone Trend blown Master on things like Like that have a that have a high stimulation of the male hormone receptor and have those really masculinizing effects generally staying away from those fine. And so Deca without testosterone. It has been shown in studies to be able to give sufficient male hormone Androgen replacement function. If you don't use it with just AA stirone generally the metabolites of nandrolone, which is called die hydronium. Alone in so with nandrolone, which is DECA. That's the chemical name for Decca as nandrolone interacts with an enzyme in the body called 5-alpha reductase. That's the enzyme that turns testosterone into dihydrotestosterone, which is the brain chemical the brain steroid that works. It makes you have a you know, masculinized brain and the behavior components of steroids and then you know, like makes you be able to get an erection things like that. Okay, so since if you have noticed Estas thrown in your body, but you have nandrolone in your body instead Deca that same enzyme felt 5-alpha reductase interacts with the nandrolone and it is able to convert that nandrolone into a more potent version that can still act in the penis and in the brain called dihydrogen and alone, so it's not nearly as potent as dihydrotestosterone. But if you have high levels of nandrolone, you know, so then then you can get enough of that die Hydra nandrolone that you can still get that full hormonal. In your body. So if a normal person was taken like 250 milligrams, you know of testosterone per week, you know, they would be able to get the full hormonal benefits and having their hormonal system being stimulated like a like an androgen replacement therapy benefit from that. Okay, but in order to equal that with with nandrolone, you have to take a higher dosage of nandrolone because you got to have that that metabolites of nandrolone that does the effects that stimulate your hormonal system in order to enough in order. To replace the you know not having to hide your testosterone your body because you're not going to have any dihydrotestosterone the brain chemical in your body. If you're not taking testosterone, you're just taking Deca. So since died Hydro nandrolone is much weaker than dihydrotestosterone. You got to take more of it in order to get a similar effect. So for somebody that was taken Deca only and you know wanting to still have like a good functioning sex drive and Stuff like that, you know, they got to be taken like 800 milligrams per week, you know absolute minimum of 600 milligrams per week at Absolute minimum, you know somewhere between 600 milligrams, you know up to a thousand milligrams of nandrolone per week in order to get enough of that hormone in them to stimulate their hormonal system enough to be you know normal to have a Androgen replacement or testosterone replacement therapy hormone replacement therapy. Checked in their body coming from the DECA nandrolone and with Decca, you know, even for guys that are prone to hair loss. It generally doesn't cause hair loss Deca and anavar if you're somebody who's like super worried about taking steroids and hair loss or if you've liked taking steroids and gotten hair loss and you're like really afraid of it or something like, you know, taking Deca and anavar and not taking any other steroids is your best bet to keep that. Day and deal with that. So yeah, you can do that. Jorge asks, someone told me to drop Trend and take only Master on pre-contest your thoughts. Yeah, I don't think that's a good idea. And so the reason why is because you know, I've experimented with this myself I've experimented with you know, only running master on only running master on and Winstrol only running master on Winstrol and probe ayran and me tell you okay for one thing your sex drive goes bye-bye, bye-bye. As soon as you take out that estrogen component from from your cycle. Okay, so if you have no testosterone in there and you are on Master on normally Master on increases your sex drive a lot. Okay, but if you take out the testosterone and then you have no more estrogen so you get no more estrogen in your brain because your brain needs estrogen to function correctly by sex drive by So that's one thing okay with Master on and the other thing with Master on is that it provides zero muscle fullness. So k0 it actually, you know taking Master on kind of reduces muscle fullness a little bit. It makes it provides a very lean athletic dense hard. Look, okay, very dense very hard, but kind of a sucking in a sucking in look to the muscles. Okay, and so to have any kind of fullness at all. On Master on you have to have something that loads glycogen into the muscle in addition to that or else you will look so damn flat on Master on only or Master on and Winstrol only you'll look very dense and hard but you will have no like 3D pop or roundness to your muscle. No fullness at all. You look very suck down and flat and you know kind of natural looking like as far as you know, not being 3D and you know not Having that round shape to your muscles having more of a lean long flat athletic look to your muscles instead. That's what's going to happen. If you take out Trimble own and if you're you know, if you're only using Trimble own and Master on pre-contest because you know, what a lot of people do pre-contest is they use testosterone trembling and Master on together and then the last three weeks before the contest they drop out the testosterone and just go in to the contest on tremble own Master on and a lot of times Winstrol together. And that you know that actually provides a decent look the tremble own keeps the glycogen storage in the muscle, you know high enough that you know, there's still some 3D roundness and pop but then there's no water retention at all from having any testosterone in there. So they get the combination of having that lean dry hard stuff down. Look while still having some muscle fullness with the tremble own in there. But if you do take out the Trimble own and only go on the master on let me tell you I mean, you should try it just so you Experience this you should try it and see what happens because yeah, you get so flat. It's a very lean athletic look people will think you came off cycle. That's what happens. People will think you look they'll be like, whoa. You got a lot smaller here. Did you go off cycle and you'll look real hard in suck down, but you will look very flat stringy, not 3D not round, you know, you could be you could be natural, but you'll look very hard at the same time. I'm it just don't do it. Just don't do it unless you want to don't do it pre-contest. Okay, you can experiment with it before your contest, but it's not going to be a good thing. If you do this pre-contest, you're not going to be happy with the result Garrett asks. Hey, man, just recently discovered the podcast and I'm a huge fan. I've done two cycles of trend and I'm about to jump on another stack but want to tone it down a little how does one go about finding Farm grade gear though. Have access to a few underground labs, but listen to your podcast about your infection. Okay, so getting Farm grade gear I'd said that you know after my leg infection I said that you know, I couldn't use or I couldn't inject myself anymore with underground lab gear because you know, it's Russian Roulette, you know, are you going to get an infection if you use underground lab gear probably not but could you get an infection like me if you use underground lab gear? Yeah. Yeah, you're putting yourself at risk and everybody Builder that's honest with themselves. Was that you know it is it is it's not probable but it can happen and it's kind of like Russian Roulette, you know low probability Russian Roulette, you know in getting stuff that's made by drug dealers into your body and you know injecting that strated into your body through your body's defenses and you know bad things can happen and they do happen. I'm not the only one who has had an infection from UGL gear. You know other people have to so guys that are you know worried about that and thinking like, oh, I need Farm great gear, you know, obviously it comes, you know, it can be diverted it. You know people that okay. I'm not even going to talk about that. Okay. There are hormone clinics in Florida. There are hormone clinics in Florida. Okay that are online and you know, I even coached some guys that used because you know, I do the The one-hour phone call consultations for you guys that listen to the podcast and then I also do the daily WhatsApp text messaging coaching where you know, it's month to month and you know, one of the some of the guys that I do the coaching with they they are they use Farm grade gear Farm great human growth hormone and a farm grade testosterone Deca even some of them have Winstrol and and of are prescribed by these hormone replacement. Is an integral from Florida and what they do is these these clinics in Florida? Some of them are anti-aging clinics or Rejuvenation clinics. They have websites and the doctor will do a Skype video chat with you and prescribe you the pharmaceutical grade gear over the Internet. Okay through after doing the Skype chat with you, so it's legal. Okay. It's legal its If it's not like sketchy or underground or not legit, okay, and then they mail you your gear your your hormone replacement stuff in the mail with the prescription with it. Okay, so it comes to your door with a prescription from the doctor in the mail. Okay, and then people say but is it expensive? Yeah, of course, it's expensive like get real. Okay, like, you know people who say You know, oh I can't do it if it's expensive. Okay. Well, this is the things that things like pharmaceutical grade human growth hormone pharmaceutical grade gear, you know, getting you know higher dosages of testosterone and you know other anabolic hormones prescribed to you by a doctor, you know, these things aren't cheap people expect these things to be cheap. And that's the reason why a lot of people do use you GLS is because they're cheap. More accessible but I think most people do have some way, you know, if you get UGL gear, usually those guys do know of some way that they can get pharmaceutical-grade gear but it's you know, two to three times the price of the UGL gear and so they're like, oh well, I don't want to do that or something like that. And I mean then if you choose that you don't want to do that then like I said, you're putting yourself at risk where you could have something happen to you like what happened? And to me with my leg infection in Colombia, if you don't know what happened just Google search Dan bodybuilder in Thailand leg infection and it will come up and you know, is that going to happen to you? If you use you'll UGL gear probably not. Could it happen to you? Yeah, it could you're taking that risk. It's probably not going to happen, but it could so, you know, that's that's why I decided. Me, you know, I had that happen once I got freaking burned and I can't take any chances with that happening again. So what I said because you know, obviously I had to sit down with myself and have a discussion with myself like yo, you know, what caused you to almost lose your leg, you know and talk to myself and say like this cannot happen again. So how can I make you know sure that this is not going to happen again and for me What I decided that I had to do in for my life to take care of myself from now on is that I can't take any more injections of UGL gear. So for injections, I only use pharmaceutical grade gear now and then you know for tablets, you know, I'm still okay with taking like a tablet for it with a with a UGL gear. So like an oral steroid. I'm okay with that but as far as injections go that's a complete know for me. That's what I had to do this. Vision that I had to make from my life to ensure that that will never happen again. Alright, next question is from Jay who asks, hey Dan fan of the podcast. I've been a natural body builder for eight years successfully gained from a Thirty One Thirty pounds, and now at 205 pounds of lean now if I want to take it to the next level what steroids stack would be perfect to start with and why? Okay, I checked out a picture of this guy because he sent it and he looks good too. So great job on that natural bodybuilding good job with that with so I'm just going to say like what is the steroid cycle that I recommend for beginners? So earlier we talked about Dave Palumbo. He recommends for a first beginner steroid cycle a thousand milligrams of testosterone per week me I recommend less testosterone than that because testosterone Can cause some troubleshooting issues? Okay. So testosterone becomes a lot of other hormones in the body, it can become estrogen can become dihydrotestosterone and then there's metabolites of those hormones and it can have effects on other hormonal systems. So what I prefer to do is use a lower dosage of testosterone for a guy on a first cycle and then use some other steroids in there that don't produce any other hormones other than just the Oh mon that you put into you. So if you take a lower dosage of testosterone, you can have less trouble shooting with estrogen levels or dihydrotestosterone levels or whatever to have to Tinker around with then if you take the higher dosage so for guys that are doing the first cycle and they asked me you know, like what should I take? What I say to them is I'd say two cc's of testosterone per week 500 milligrams of testosterone per week. Just because I think that less than that. Um, you know, it really doesn't provide like that that wow or bang Factor like at all that you're looking for because people have expectations when they're going on steroids and they're like, you know, they have expectations of what's going to happen. And you know, if it's this really slow methodological gradual change that happens over months. That's not what they're really looking for and they're usually pretty damn disappointed about it. so, you know, I recommend, you know, 500 milligrams of testosterone per week paired with an oral that doesn't have any estrogenic effects or doesn't have any severe side effects, really and so usually like plug-and-play orals where you know, for example with testosterone or tremble on or Deca or even equipoise, you know it when you use those you have to Tinker On with anti-estrogen pills or anti prolactin pills and be you know tinkering around with these dosages of these other chemicals to control side effects and shit, but with something like like wind straw or an of our order in a ball or Prima Boleyn, you don't have to add anything in there just plug and play steroids and there's no trouble shooting necessary. You just start taking it. You don't have to take anything else with it. You just start taking the roid and it works. And it makes you look better it makes you stronger and it makes you grow muscle. So in order to you know have that experience when you get on the gear where you're like, oh, wow. I'm impressed by this like this is what I imagined would happen when I went on gear quickly gaining size strength muscle mass and looking better. What's going to work good for that is Out with about 500 milligrams of testosterone or so per week. And then some taken something like 50 milligrams and of our or Winstrol or Toronto ball per day if you wanted to do an oral and that's that's what I would recommend is one of those three. Winstrol and of our or to rent a ball at around 50 milligrams per day paired with 500 milligrams of testosterone. That is the beginner steroid cycle that I would recommend but some people are like scared to death of orals and I don't think that's really necessary. But if that's you for some reason then you pretty much got to Shell out the extra money for Prima Bolin if you are looking for that same kind of thing where it's like Plug and Play. With no side effects and you know having that expectation where you know, you're looking better give me a stronger and getting bigger and and it will also be a little bit slower obviously to experience the gains if he is pretty mobile and in comparison to if you use an oral, so for those guys that are you know, like dead set on not using an oral for their first steroid cycle, then it would be the same thing that I would recommend. I'd recommend about a thousand per sorry about 500 milligrams. Grams or so of testosterone per week and I'd recommend like 600 milligrams of pre mobile and per week with that. So that would be a shot of testosterone twice per week and a full three CC shot of Prima Bolin twice per week. And I mean those those would be easy Cycles to do there's not going to be a lot of side effects you have to deal with you can pretty much just take take those roids and be good to go with the testosterone, you know. Gonna have to probably take a room at X or X Ms. 10, you know a couple pills per week, but that's it. And other than that, you can just beyond the cycle. Enjoy. The gains not have side effects not have any kind of like fucked up sex drive or anything like that and just enjoy what you're doing. So that's what that's what I recommend for first beginner cycle. The next question is from Grant who asks? Hi first off love the podcast bought your ebook Ultimate Guide to roids amazing depth of knowledge put into both starting my first cycle of 250 milligrams test an ant at 12 weeks going to use aromasin eczema standing as anti estrogen and wanted to use HCG throughout. What dosage HCG would you recommend I use per week also. You would recommend which main blood work. I should get checked for the cycle. Thanks in advance. All right, so with 250 milligrams testosterone per week, you're not going to have health effects, like negative health effects from that that is a dosage that you know doctors prescribe regularly for testosterone replacement therapy. And that means for guys that have no testosterone getting them up to normal testosterone levels for most guys that take 250 milligrams per week of testosterone that will get them a little bit above normal testosterone levels like We'll get them around a thousand nanograms per deciliter or thousand, you know somewhere between a thousand thousand thousand five hundred nanograms per deciliter. Whereas the normal normal range is more like 500 to 900 nanograms per deciliter or 600 900 or so for normal, you know, good to stop certain levels and normal men who are not over 40 years old. Those are the normal numbers. So it'll get you a little bit on the higher end of the spectrum, but some guys it won't some guy We'll get them still in the in that normal completely normal Spectrum. It depends on how your body metabolizes testosterone how effective your body is at getting rid of the testosterone drug. Once it's in your body how high your blood levels will get so as far as like blood work and stuff like that like you can definitely get your blood work checked and you know, if you take steroids and you want to get your blood work checked, you should get a full afull regular Health panel, so You go on to a place like private web or private medlabs private MD Labs. I think is what it's called.com, you know, you can order if you don't have insurance or you don't want to do it through your doctor. You can just do it through them and and they have a program where you can go to some kind of lab that they contract with and if you live in major cities and you don't live in New York because I think it's banned in New York, you know, you can go there take a little blood. test and then they send the info to the website think it's called private MD labs and then they post your blood test results and you can view them online and that's that and you know, generally what you want to do when you are on steroids as you want to get a full health panel some guys they want to check their testosterone levels when they're on cycle and that's totally reasonable to and a good thing to do to see, you know, if your gears legit, like if you're wondering testing your total testosterone levels, but if you're looking at For health then you just need to get the General Health panel that shows you know, your liver enzymes your cholesterol your blood lipids your kidney function Etc shows all the normal stuff and you can just see you know, how the organs of your body are running and mostly everything should be in the normal range some things that might be a little bit off. Sometimes as liver enzymes can be a little bit high and that can be From taking oral steroids or it can just be from working out because working out breaks down tissue and it makes your liver enzymes go a little bit High sometimes and then the other thing is cholesterol can get raised a little bit from being on testosterone and also from being on. From being on from being on oral steroids and then oral steroids also can affect your blood lipids as well. So those are the those of the testing parameters that usually get a this more common to see those get out of range from taking steroids. Another thing that gets out of range a little bit is he mad or credit which is the amount of red blood cells in your blood like the density of red blood cells in your blood. So hemoglobin means Like the total amount of volume of your blood with the red blood cells in it. And then the hematocrit is just like how much red blood cells you have. And so those numbers are both related and you know, either of them can be good for looking at you know, do I have too many red blood cells if your have high hemoglobin or if you have high hematocrit those can both be accurate tests for showing, you know, if you have too many red blood cells in your blood. And the way that you get rid of that though, if you if you get that is you go you go give blood you donate blood you get the blood out of your body and that thins out your blood again and gets rid of some of those extra red blood cells, but you know talking about high red blood cell count is that you know, a lot of athletes try to get high red blood cell count, you know, that's why you hear about people training at high altitudes and then coming down and competing at low. It's because at high altitudes is less oxygen so the body responds by producing more red blood cells and they come back down to normal altitude and they have extra red blood cells, which means they have more oxygen being able to flow through their body feel their cardiovascular system and feel their muscles. So they're at an advantage. Another thing that people, you know, the athletes have been known to do is to you know, draw their blood and take, you know, a bag of blood of their own blood and then put it in the fridge and keep it there for months and then when it's time for the competition, you know, their body has regenerated and has a normal blood again, but now they reinsert that blood that they took out, you know months earlier and they reinsert it into their body and plug it back into their bloodstream. So now they have extra red blood cells again, so then they're able to do a better athletic performance. So when you're talking about slightly raised hematocrit or slightly raised red blood cell levels, it's something that Generally desire. So as long as it's not, you know out of, you know, pretty high out of range or you know, like definitely out of range. It's not such a bad issue. Okay, I give blood I give blood once every three months and I just leave it at that. Usually just to let you know. Usually I am at the top of the normal range for he mad okra and hemoglobin like I'm right at the point. Wow, that's my general thing with giving blood blood once every three months. That's what I normally do and when I go in and get my amount of credit and hemoglobin tested, my numbers are right at the top of the normal range like bordering on what would be too high, so, that's me. Okay. Next question is from Mike. Can you talk about how the use of Kratom can benefit someone on cycle? I for one have been running 1.5 grams of tests and Kratom has really helped me stabilize my mood also a fast strain pre-workout feels amazing. What are your thoughts? Yeah, Kratom is an incredible pre-workout drug for bodybuilding. So, you know, this is not a good thing. But back in the 90s people were using injectable Vicodin called ngubane as a pre-workout. You know, they said, you know, it lowers cortisol. So it's good. But you know, then everybody got addicted ngubane because it's injectable Vicodin and they were taking it intravenously and so people were walking around with fanny packs with Vicodin bottles and syringes inside not a good thing. Okay, but so what Kratom is is there's different kind of opiate receptors in your body. Kratom is a plant that grows in Southeast Asia. And the leaves are ground up into a powder and then you eat the powder. Okay, and there are different kind of opiate receptors in the body. There's the kind of opiate receptors that morphine and it's analog such as vicodin can stimulate and then there's other kind of opiate receptors in your body and the kind of opiate receptors that Kratom stimulates are the ones that are not the same kind primarily not the same kind that morphine and Vicodin stimulate. Okay, so it these Is that the Kratom stimulates? It doesn't have those same kind of like real addictive effects. And it also doesn't suppress your breathing. So that's definitely one of the main dangerous effects of things like, you know, morphine or heroin or you know, Vicodin is one the addiction potential and then too depressing your breathing and then dying from having a cardiovascular or like collapse where you know, you stopped breathing. But with the Kratom that doesn't happen, it doesn't suppress your breathing. And then also it does have some some addictive properties to it. It's about as addictive as coffee is if you're a black coffee drinker, you know, you know that's addictive but I mean I've been addicted to coffee I've definitely been addicted to coffee where it's like I can't function without it. You know, if you can't function without something if you can't function without without it normally then yeah, your body's got an addiction to that substance. It has to have Chemical in order to be normal. So that's happened to me with Kratom to you know, where you know, I would be using Kratom every day two or three times a day at around 5 to 10 grams per dosage and it's an incredible antidepressant and and it really creates a great optimistic feeling. It makes you feel very optimistic and you really see a light at the end of the tunnel and it's incredible for Or your mood but you know if I wanted to stop taking it, you know, I would have to stop taking it and then for the next one and a half or two days, you know, I really wouldn't feel too great. You know, I feel kind of like like I had a cold, you know, I wouldn't feel hot. That's for sure. And if you've tried to stop drinking coffee after you've been drinking coffee all throughout the day, you know every day like that. So, you know, like I said, I was taking Kratom, you know, two or three times a day every day. That's a similar way to a lot of people drink, you know, coffee two or three times a day every day. And you know when I when you want to stop drinking coffee and you've been doing that and the same thing when you've been taking Kratom and you want to stop doing that it for the next about two days, you know, you don't you don't feel too good. It's not like some kind of crazy thing where you're like mentally addicted and shit like that. I mean, I don't even think it's mentally addicted Kratom. I don't think it's as mentally addictive as even like marijuana is Because it doesn't really it's not an escape. It's definitely not an escape. So it makes you feel certain ways. It can make you feel good, but it doesn't change your State of Consciousness. So like something like getting drunk or you know smoking even even weed or taking some other kind of like like drugs can change your State of Consciousness and be like an escape from your normal. Life and the things that stress you out and stuff like that, but create them doesn't stain change your State of Consciousness. You're still exactly in reality and still exactly in that same Zone. You're not in this different state of mind. You're in your normal state of mind. You just feel better. You have more optimism you have more motivation and it's like an antidepressant and also it can make your body like have a good feeling to your body take away aches and pains stuff like that. And then if you use it as a pre-workout and To the gym, you know, it can really make you have an amazing workout because it reduces the amount of pain that you can feel so you can just like go longer and harder and also you just don't get tired. You just cannot feel the fact that you get tired or worn out in the gym. So you can basically work out for two or three hours at high intensity and not feel tired feel amazing feel great doing that. Yeah. Yeah. It's an incredible pre-workout and You know, it's a really great thing. I don't use kratom anymore. The last time I use kratom was about six months ago. I started using it because I got prescribed. I had a chronic injury like a repetitive motion injury and my arms and this was years ago and you know, the doctor prescribed me Tramadol. He prescribed me tram at all to be using everyday to deal with that and I didn't want to take that every day. And so then I, you know started taking things. My own hands found out about Kratom and I use that instead and it worked, you know better than the Tramadol for managing my pain and you know, it just worked better for me. And what's something natural. It was a plant that I ate, you know plant powder that I ate rather than a pharmaceutical drug and I preferred it. So that's how I started using Kratom and now like it's not legal in time then for one thing. So that's one reason why I never use it in Thailand. But you know when I go back to America, you know, I like to have a Kratom every you know, maybe once every three weeks or so, you know, I go for months sometimes without taking it ever but you know, it's definitely nice to take a Kratom. Sometimes take a 5 to 10 grams of creatine powder eat it. And yeah, it's good make I have a great day on that day for sure or if I felt low or something or for some reason on that day and I took the kratom. I feel incredible that day instead. So that's kratom. Alright, the next question is from Natty P who says high dose and of our blast say eight weeks at a hundred milligrams every day over a cruise dose of testosterone. I like anavar because it makes me feel good and it just kind of work steadily. Am I wrong in thinking more equals better? Thanks. Love the podcast Yeah, a hundred milligrams per day of anavar is a great dosage. So Anna Bart pretty much becomes effective around 40 milligrams per day. That's when you start to feel it and I'm talking pharmaceutical grade. Anavar. I know that people people talk about like oh back in the old days. We took ten milligrams of animal per day or 20 milligrams and of our per day like they're talking that down. They they didn't use low dosages in the Golden Era. I mean I can tell you that. I don't want to get into it too much about you know, discussing exactly. The what they were using because you know, they were abusing stuff just like the guys today abuse stuff. Okay, and we don't need to always be talking about the most, you know, insane abuse and shit that you know Pro heavyweight bodybuilders. Do you know that's just unnecessary to be like constantly hammering you guys with that we talked about that on the show enough that people use high dosages and so you know that by now, okay, so when people talk about, you know, using 20 milligrams per day of anavar and being like yeah, I'm a pro bodybuilder something that's not accurate. It okay. It's just not accurate like you if you've used roids before and you know, what roids do like you use your common sense and see that's not realistic. So for you for end of our to start being perceptible and to start being like yeah, I definitely notice the effects. It's not like maybe I notice it but I noticed the effects or two milligrams per day is pretty much the minimum dosage that you're going to get that kind of effect from and once you get up to like 60 milligrams per day. It's like I'm getting a good effect from this and then at a hundred milligrams per day. I'm getting a great effect from this. I'm getting a gray effect. So when you talk about, you know, are you wrong in thinking more is better with anavar. No absolutely not a hundred milligrams per day is a fantastic dosage for and of are you know, some people use Trend blown at a hundred milligrams per day is that weird, you know or 50 milligrams per day of trembling. So 350 milligrams per week or seven hundred milligrams per week of tremble own. Those are not unusual dosages at all where you know, even taken like a thousand milligrams of some kind of hormone, you know thousand milligrams of tests or Prima Bolin or equipoise, you know, these things are not that abnormal. So sometimes people are worried about toxicity from oral steroids. And that's true the world steroids can give some toxicity some total body toxicity and some liver toxicity, but anavar is you know, much less toxic than basically any other world steroid and where other oral steroids have been shown you know it Dosages and prolonged use to you know, occasionally and somebody, you know, especially if they have some kind of pre-existing liver liver condition, but also sometimes you know occasionally if they don't, you know, they can have you know, some major liver problems or you know, occasionally even there's been liver failure reported from people, you know, abusing oral steroids so that that does happen but not not with a Navarre and of our has been shown to raise liver enzymes a bit on it. Occasion but there's never been any liver failure reported for ban of our and actually one of the prescription uses that the doctor in America will prescribe anavar it for is for people who have alcohol induced fatty liver failure. Okay, they can prescribe. Anavar. This is a reason they prescribe anavar is to help those people recover their livers. Okay, so just going to say and of art isn't quite like those Other oral antibiotics steroids. Yes, they all are you know, they all other oral antibiotics steroids are liver toxic because they they reduce or they resist breakdown in the liver because they have a molecule called 17 Alpha alkylation added to the hormone molecule and that that 17 Alpha alkylation molecule makes it be able to resist breakdown in the liver and it causes liver stress to happen. So and of are actually has that too. It also has that 17 of alkylation, but for some reason and doctors and scientists don't know why they just noticed from studying that it doesn't cause the same amount of liver stress as the other oral steroids do it's far far less than the other ones. So yeah hundred milligrams and of our per day fantastic dosage of anavar. The next question is from Lou. He says I want to look like models on. People like Jeff side or Carlton Loth. How possible okay, so these guys take way ranging dosages of performance-enhancing drugs. You can't really like categorize them all as being taking one thing. So some of these guys take you know, High dosages of Trent and others of them take lower dosages or some of them. Don't take Trend and rely on other stuff. so you can't say like this is what they take, but I can tell you, you know, generally what it what these guys what these guys use and what they use is they use nutrient partitioning agents and they use they use Muscle hardener compounds. So the the hormones that are popular with them are tremble own and of our wind straw Master on those the popular hormones that they use that those guys like to use most of them use testosterone propionate holds less water. Then long-acting testosterone helps you look more ripped and it's basically more effective as well at the same dosage is a longer does And then a lot of them use pharmaceutical grade human growth hormone. So pharmaceutical-grade human growth hormone. A lot of people say like growth hormone has water retention. But if you have pharmaceutical grade of our growth hormone, not very much not really and and especially if you're not running it in a super high dosage if you're running it at a dosage five, I use or below not not really not much water retention there. And so growth hormone directly burns fat, it makes it so that you can eat food and not store it as fat a lot of these guys also use thyroid hormones like T4 and T3 and they use clenbuterol. They also use metformin because metformin is like a filter and so when you take Metformin a thousand milligrams of 2,000 milligrams per day, it stops about 30% of the fats and carbohydrates that you eat from being absorbed and instead. They just go straight through you and you shit them out. So it can be like a filter for some of the unclean food that you see these guys eat. You see these guys like bragging and showing off by like eating pizza eating ice cream stuff like that and doing it frequently and saying like, you know, look at my body that I can maintain, you know, for those guys, you know, having a you know, increasing their metabolic rate their basal metabolic rate by taking thyroid hormones, and then, you know having a A filter on their food that filters some of the energy out just makes it go straight through them and they can shit it out by taking metformin and then taking human growth hormone, which blocks fat cells from being able to intake energy and promotes muscle cells taking them instead and then also directly burns fat off of your stomach area, you know, those are things that help with that and then also tremble own things that you know, it's definitely also blocks. Uptake of energy by fat cells in it directly burns fat and makes your muscles look harder and shit like that. So yeah, if I was going to give like a basic cycle that would work. That would just be like an average cycle for These Guys these guys that are like, you know, if you want to have that Jeff side body that Carlton laughs body that Z's body. Okay, the first thing though that I got to put I got to put out this disclaimer here a lot of these guys Just born genetically lean there. Are these guys that You know when they were 8 years old they had an eight-pack. Yeah, you saw these guys growing up and you saw them in high school and even in college a little bit that these guys that they just don't have that on their body. They're skinny. They're not they're not muscular, but they, you know, they normally have that that wide clavicle where the clavicle the area like their collarbone and their shoulders are wide and they have the smaller waist and they're just born You know lean they've just always had an eight pack or six pack and they were born that way never could gain fat never could gain muscle and then they go on steroids and that decreases the amount of thyroid hormone that they naturally produce and you know, then they're able to gain some weight and put on some muscle. So that's what a lot of these guys are, you know, you know, they go on a little bit of trend they go on a little bit of growth hormone and A little bit of test propionate and you know, they use some clenbuterol sometimes and then a lot of times they don't even have a big appetite either so they have a good time staying lean not being too muscular, but then having a really hard ripped look and that's how they get that look. That's how a lot of these guys are. So this is the disclaimer before I tell you a cycle of like how you can you know progress towards that but you know, a lot of these guys genetically they're coming from that starting point. And so then they just throw in some Trends some wind straw some growth hormone and you know doing that some clenbuterol having a low appetite and doing that with their genetics of already being lean. Now, they add some muscle thickness and you know, they look they look really good and that's that's that but if that's not you Then the best way to approximate that look would be raising your basal metabolic rate by taking thyroid hormones using the filter to make it so that you don't absorb as much of your food that you eat, you know, because these guys aren't that big so taken 2,000 milligrams of Metformin per day taken, you know, 25 micrograms of T3 thyroid hormone / day. Take in a hundred milligrams of tremble own acetate every other day. So around 350 milligrams per week of tremble and acetate same dosage of testosterone propionate and taken about for I use or even just to I use of farm grade human growth hormone per day and doing some clenbuterol sometimes with cardio not lifting too heavy in the gym, but Doing a lot of workouts that are like non-stop weight training with lighter weights, but you just don't ever stop training. You don't take rest breaks burn a lot of calories in the gym and you obviously do cardio those. Those are the ways that you can most that you can most approximate that look if that's not naturally how you are. All right. Final question for today is from Dan. He says I'm getting older 46 been training a long time never taken. Cycle as a natural. I've got a good amount of muscle, but it's getting harder to lose weight. What would you take as a first cycle with my metrics and how long to get a good muscular lean build? Okay. So if your natural definitely get on some testosterone, you're 46 and you're looking for a boost and you looking to do your first cycle so definitely get on it some testosterone you could just go to your doctor, you know, get your base to start our own because that will be very easy for you to do. Do go to go to the doctor get them to prescribe you, you know, your pharmaceutical grade testosterone so you don't have to worry about UGL bullshit testosterone that you know, it's probably fine if you do use that but it's better not to it's always better to use pharmaceutical grades. And since you're approaching middle age, this is definitely the time that you could get that without much difficulty. So I advise that get on the testosterone and then like I said, Earlier about first cycle to recommend you know, anavar is really great. And it's really low side effects. So anavar Toronto ball or Winstrol. Those are all drugs that make you harder stronger and look better and grow muscle and they do it fast right away. So those are definitely good ones and you can just take you know, 50 milligrams per day of any of those. You know, I would for me I would probably prefer an of are especially if I was in my 40s, that's what I would do because I mean anavar is definitely the most healthy one of those choices and I would I would be doing like I was talking about with these guys that were wanting to do this this lean Instagram model look like Jeff side or whatever, you know, a lot of these guys the way that their training in the gym, is there burning a lot of calories. So when you go to the gym and you are just lifting heavy weights and you know, you're resting And then you go and you know lift another weight set for you know, it last 20 seconds and then you rest for another three minutes and do that, you know for an hour you've exercised for like a grand total of like three and a half five minutes by the time you're our workout is up and it really doesn't burn much energy at all. And if you're not physically active in the day, other than that like you really don't have a very high caloric need at all. So like a lot of guys that wonder you know, how come I'm not burning more calories. How come I can't eat more food without getting fat, you know, a lot of it is because other than that weight lifting with a lot of resting in between. They're not really getting any other physical activity during the day. So I would definitely recommend, you know, getting on the trt taken some anavar and changing your workouts to doing non-stop weightlifting basically like you stop the set like you go you're doing some bench press and you know as soon as you That bench press set. You're doing a little bit of pull ups and then you know, you're doing a little bit of dumbbell rows and then you go back to the bench press and you know, you've only rested, you know, maybe 15 seconds between each of those exercises and you basically do that for an hour in the gym. So you're basically constantly moving working in the gym without rest and you know, that's the best way to get your training to be building more of that lean athletic look, Rather than a more softer bigger look. 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