And I can't remember what to do. It's very hard. Isn't it? Become Williams doesn't know otherwise, you don't know what the hell's going on. This is wrong.Rolla is the best of defining it looks like spaceships and everything, but you have to know not even a hangover from the spaceships a hangover from the days of TV serialization is like Flash Gordon. Well, I really don't get to the Imperial Market. Star Wars the rise of Skywalker. This is a fully spoiler review fully spoiler. Well, good luck with everything going on from saying everything but we understood everything that we inferred and everything that was done said and revealed in this the ninth and Final. Final episodes of watching stop watching now. If you don't want to know what happens in this film, so it has to be the last one in the Luke Skywalker Saga. This is what a lot of people who aren't Star Wars fans aren't getting it is the end of the nine film run because George Lucas only ever envisaged Skywalker Saga as nine films now, whether that's the end of all these characters whether we'll see any of them again with a person there's an ID as Maddie said as we walked out, is it ever really the end of anything? A very good point and and that's the sort of true Jedi speaking there. What is this? It's also just life generally. Yeah, and also, I mean given the remarkable capacity of most Dead character members of the Star Wars franchise to constantly re-emerge as a hologram in some form. Yes. There's never a death really is that would take Carrie Fisher freaks take Carrie Fisher. So anyway, so this is the last one obviously, this is the third one of the most recent reboot since its belong to Disney first one the force. Things will start but JJ Abrams second one The Last Jedi directed by Rian Johnson. And this one again. JJ Abrams returns for this one. You know, this is quite kind of a symbolic moment for someone of my generation my age because this is the end of the Skywalker. So again, that's why it's very very important to us. And we look we look down down on people who sort of don't understand them the final detail that said that said, I'm not going into this so blind with such rose-tinted glasses that it can't do wrong. Okay, because the last Jedi for me was an absolute crock of disappointment the force awakens. I did like weirdly with the Pierre Part passage of time. I wonder whether the force awakens has got weaker. The more one looks back at it and you think actually just like the retailing the first-ever Star Wars will ever beat the first original Star Wars films because you can never create recreate that first moment and also you can never recreate The Innovation that was a requirement of not having just loads and loads of money and knowing it was a success they I was going to be a success so it had to be inventive. Yeah, everything subsequent of that has been trying to recreate that's what it's really cool so bad, especially absolutely absolutely nothing for all those kids there today. He wouldn't know the original. Yep. They will totally take and what we'll talk about that and that's what this most recent Trilogy is have to do is try to do something very very difficult. And I think you have to acknowledge how difficult the task in hand is they're trying to appeal to my generation that has all of these characters from the past and wants them to carry on and they stay there. Narrative arcs to kind of complete and finish their appealing to Kiki and Maddie's generation trying to give them new characters, which is the thinking behind Finn and Rey and kylo Ren and and then what unless it really so the transfer your kind of you, but you'd be great with me you be grateful that I did not understand a single thing about the Sith. Is and Darth Maul and what kind of shit I needed to know Darkseid and all that kind of malarkey. So yes, you've got the Sith. You've got the Jedi and you've got there in the war to the good and the bad the dark and the light the positive the negative the yin and the Yang angle is the hotel. So yeah, I mean really all you need to know and I think they did a very good job actually for simpletons coming into this you just get to know cities even well exactly. So what more tonight? It was a big plot floor there there but we'll come to that. This is Eve. I came into this film with Luke Skywalker dead and solo did principal weirdly Princess Leia are alive with Carrie Fisher dead. So the old gang were kind of weren't there and if they were there they weren't really there no and yet they were all there. Oh, yeah, you know, it was a bit of a head. We are in fuck really that disappointed not despond you're going in but You so I was incredibly excited. This is a big build-up to saying how were we going in. I went in really nervous. So yeah, I went in really nervous. I tried to go with a completely blank - I don't want to be too excited. I don't want to expect something bad just don't want to think about it at all into those. None of this is to be honest until it started. I didn't really think about the fact that we were going to see the last right? Yeah goes weirdly the what did you all do you feel I thought you were I thought you were both are in a way to prop me up if I fell apart. Well, yeah because don't we all knew deep down that Dad was beyond? Yes. I did. Yeah, it was already too high before of course was but I got teary-eyed in the force awakens when Han Solo was killed. Of course, I got I cried with anger when Luke Skywalker disappeared with nothing other than a fart. So and dramatic, so I went into this plant. The only the only thing that made me feel hopeful about this was JJ Abrams be involved and for me he and in fact that most people have said that he's kind of safe recovered Star Wars. Well, he recovered the first one but a lot of people are very down on his original film saying it was too derivative. It basically re told the same story as the same. No, but I mean everybody send this film has just come out his saved. Well the covered from thinking about how bad the Last Jedi. Yeah. As much as he can his trouble that yet. They're not necessarily saying that and that's the problem where we're at as we sit here today with the phone having only been released 24 hours across the globe. It's sitting with a Rotten Tomatoes a 58% and it's great is rating and it's tracking as the second worst critically received Star Wars film. We're not going to let that inform what we say second to worst Star Wars film received since the phantom menace. I mean, it's a it's so low. It's ridiculous, but we Know how Rotten Tomatoes can be off of being because Joker's at 64% exactly know that was no sort of meaning but people are saying that this is JJ Abrams attempt to really rescue what many fell was a going off Route that with the Last Jedi so that this is an apologists film. This is this is kind of JJ and Disney saying sorry guys, we kind of lost the roadmap also trying to steer ourselves back into the right direction. A lot of critics have been describing this one as in the first 40 minutes being absolutely Ram packed with a lot of plot Exposition describing getting us to places when this started. I got a little bit I felt like I was being repeatedly punched in the face. It was going a heck of a speech that was good for me. I'm no good on the names and the dentist is and all the stuff that you love so much and what no, no, I would like to correct you I'm not interested in that and this is where it has a Star Wars fan. I'm not interested in the names and the dynasties in the connections and the era's and the Sith. I'm More interested in the believability of the world. Oh, yeah. Yeah the fact that it took it so fast now that I could judge just simply what was happening on screen right and think oh JJ Abrams, will they explain all this to me later on in the phone? I could just get into what was happening and being as a lot of that involved Adam Driver, let's face it, you know pretty damn good when he's running it going into it is that if there was an element of this film you were most excited about what would it be Adam Adam Driver when you don't like you're not a fan of Daisy I'm not mean I'll give it like it's a big big role to be playing a big deal to be getting the world backwards. And yeah, I mean I know very well because I had to play liar and His Dark Materials how hard it is to play quite an annoying a character. It's not that dissimilar part. Yeah. So in no way am I am I saying anything about her performance is really good. I just feel like her cat. There's something about a character. Yeah, but I just I don't know. It really annoys me but I felt their Character suddenly seemed like she could do everything. I want in this film. She suddenly seemed like she could do everything apart me was just like, why do you let Bray do this all by herself? Yeah. Yeah. I agree. Was it taking you this but I tell you what, I thought I'd missed I'd missed that whole section that you got in the first ever Trilogy, which was Luke with the odor in the swamp getting his skill and crafts. Yeah, they can't yeah actually for me go back to what is it about Star Wars. I like it's the blue. None of us believe but it's the believability within it's unbelievable. It's a light and I think all of the original films did a really good job right down to Jabba the Hutt and all that nonsense of making you feel you were really in this fictional world and I felt you're absolutely right. I felt this film we started with all the characters to ready to go. Well, that's what I mean. Like, I agree with you with the original like The Originals if you were to just look at some of the characters and some of the the stuff that goes on in the Stars fans have been built you be like this is absolutely doing this makes no sense to is surreal. Yeah everything but what's so good about the original style sponsors that they make something so unrealistic and something you would usually don't like what the hell? Yeah, I make you believe that it's real money into it that they are actually living in this world and I don't know something about this film that just didn't make me feel any of that at all. I just kind of sat there whenever there was like an animatronic. I knew it was animatronic just felt like it's purposely about Animatronic that they had so that they could reference the early first the only films but the earlier films that's not what they did. No. No, you're right bad and animatronics, but you believe they were real I know exactly what you mean. Is it even a Dark Crystal Netflix managed to do that best? Yes. It's true. It can be done. I mean, I know what you mean. It's like what I felt they were trying to do in this film was recreate the not having all the solutions as to how to do it of the first-ever film. Yeah whilst having all the Solutions exactly, one of the things that storm has never been as particularly well scripted and this kind of curious as something can be the successful. Yeah, when it isn't that well scripted is pretty Laden is pretty obvious. It's pretty that's why you know who the dark like the. Side the dark side the light, you know and all that kind of stuff only personally quite quickly thought this was one of the worst written of all of them to Creek including gonna tell you why including the prequels because with the Prequels it kind of It kind of still have that thing that the original films had which was that sort of plummy ridiculousness of my Saturday morning television. This is just badly written without being Camp. Yeah, but I really think about it. I can't even remember any of the dialogue know this is pointless from the toilet. The dollar was simply explain. I mean I got worried for you who cooks at one but only because you're the youngest and I suppose you haven't been old enough to sort of really get embedded with all the characters. I was thinking I'll go. Once again. We're dealing with little bits of kit that they're chasing around the world and they're trying to find it here and they're explaining why they're going to you know, I mean there was a time where I've been very excited by this world and that world but they had they've got to a point now where they've got so many worlds. Yeah, but that specialness of when The Empire Strikes Back at but yeah, it was like, yeah over in a snow snow Planet. Yeah. Hell yeah dramatic about that and I think in a weird way what I'm trying to say is quite quickly something began to Hit me with this film and I realized Star Wars can't do what Star Wars did ever again. It can be can't relive that and so it's trying to become and it doesn't know what to do with it. So and I felt it became a film that was trying to correct a wrong in The Last Jedi and then I even began to think quite quickly on was rien Johnson Ryan Johnson trying to do something clever with the Last Jedi the perhaps. None of us really quite light because it wasn't Star Wars. He was trying to take it in. In a completely new Direction because you can't keep trying to do the old thing. So come on. What do you think of that them? Um sure agree about the script and usually that's very important to me but it didn't matter at all in this because so did you know what was happening? Yes. I'm just each set piece of like you say that as I've said before and it's happens right from the get-go. I mean the daisy Ridley thing that that got me it wasn't the same thing as you was that I thought she was fine, but character was so flattering about would she Don't you wish she wouldn't see from the word go again to hide like a script I think but you said nothing. That's all those were the only bits where the camera was on her face. And she am I going to do this or anti and then the Hulk Adam Driver thing. Does she learn donkey and easy, but you said, you know, you said that the it being a bad script as a matter. I think it really does. Well. It's like I never usually say that but in this house so keeping up with it. Yeah, but you could say that just needed good script. Action that the action it gets to say me sometimes like yeah, I don't remember. I'm sick to death of just seeing little cars fly at hover above the ground and the shoe. Yeah. I keep missing each other. Do not mean yeah. Yes Dom troops Storm Troopers. Never never never hit their target. Well, I like back then it was funny. It was carriers, but now it's just well, I thought there was a major but what did you think of the flying Stormtroopers? Yeah, I like to not to draw this line. Oh, no, I mean like cause like they tried to make that into a meme in the runner too loose and I can see what they were trying to go for book. They literally hung it on one moment. It fell never happened again. No and it fell a bit flat. I thought within the film because I was struggling to find those Camp funny moments. Yeah, the sort of provides little shards of light throughout the film. Yeah funny and I wanted the volume. Yes, if we find it. We know that John boyega can be funny because he was actually quite funny. The first film yeah Oscar Isaacs. I thought I think in many ways for me Oscar Isaac as a guilty pleasure and that's right. Well, we're gonna have a big arm and that's Oscar was his name Oscar Isaac. He was so self-conscious. It was fabulous. You don't have anything to do when he was here and he reacted really well. I thought it was just like If it was a person hmm Oscar Isaac, that's all it was. I kept thinking he thinks is a stop. He's aware of the camera and I therefore because he was aware of the camera and he seemed to be like in my heart which I disagree. I just great. I think he was delivering what he rightly got the camp self-awareness. Okay, the first one Tad if you re-watch that Han Solo so I mean Harrison Ford, so yeah. Yeah, maybe it's just channeling that into these years I think between And that character journal or over where he also has been a bit of flirtation going on. I thought please give us more of that because that was the whole Han Solo. Yeah, man. I was just thinking in the force awakens. Remember that moment when they're fighting and Han Solo's with to back when he takes his crossbow. Yeah shoots with a because I really like that. There are no moments either. I mean there was Zero moments where you were just like apart from that they make they fly now. Yeah, it's fine. Yeah because I thought the strongest actors characters in the film was was John boyega, Oslo. Sick and I driver was brilliant. But again not nobody in this film has given enough to do know they want to be all of the actors have great potential even Daisy with you. Yeah. Yeah, her character has to do a lot of tear are I've got go there. I feel this I feel something kylo Ren's here, but it's just like it. I think you've hit the news about drivers that that's exactly what I mean by almost showing him in the first scene is what we're working towards. This is me in the rain and because he's such a part of Of like sculptural weird cliff thing walking towards us with his are going you're instantly gripped. He's got that thing that got sacked as manager - yeah, and I think he carries he carries a sort of complexity to his character and no one else in the students very hard to kind of pull that off with him quite Camp setting. Yeah, and he it was dark and it was conflicted and there was the twisty turny stuff and you didn't know how much he loved her wanted her wanted to connect with her. I was trying not to hurt. I wanted her from all that kind of stuff. So I quite like that. I actually personally think Daisy hmm. I've always said this from the first film is incredibly good at the non dialogue stuff. Yeah, I think she's incredibly good at all that you know, that is with Olson does as know she when she's doing all that shit and have faces like shattering with intensity that first one where there was the mind-controlled you member of the force awakens. I think she's incredibly good-looking with really the kind of bits and Bobs of George Lucas's craziness, you know, also very hard being British. Yes, I've always got a problem British person. I thought and yet again like some major defining part of the Star Wars the office is right down to carry Fisher having an English accent. They don't stick with any seem long enough. The only ones they really do that with is when they're both communicating very true and kylo ren but with every other scene in the film. They don't stick with the scene long like that. Yeah like that which usually works films. I'm not like films that are quickly. Yeah, Jim. Jade completely different story, but that's quite yeah. Yeah. Yeah stop but I feel because the original Star Wars films did have a lot of just staying in one scene for a very long time. Yes, it became its stolz thing. Yeah, they've kind of just really I'm totally agree and I think as we came out we were talking about this for a small example of this would be the infamous scene between Han Solo and Greedo in the canteen in the first-ever film and the whole thing. Did he shoot who shot first $1, you know, how Stella goes To the canteen is opposite the guy with the green face Greedo and they build that scene because again, they have no money. They had a tight schedule. They kept that scene rolling for a good 10 minutes. So you sat and you've got into the sea and I would I would argue that all that stuff that the star was found that of my generation gets from this thing is being in those scenes from or four more times experience the reality of it even more and you sit and it breathe because I thought this rattled Because I'm saying that this film had to sit with scenes as long as the original because I get that like this Jenna Twiggy quite odd. Yeah, but like most people our age get very bored in very long sings that's understandable, but they didn't even stay with it. Like, you know, two minutes nine two minutes worth of staying with a single man, like the very first scene where they're playing the you know, the check. Yeah literally five seconds and then they're on to the next thing is within those moments where they do like those things last a bit longer where all the original comedy would come. I mean I was acting and they'd get confident in itself enough. Yes, that does seem carry on. Yeah whistling threepio a bit longer over his translation of yeah, but he only entertains me so much to me, but at the same time they are they must have felt like because I agree with you. I think it's almost like they're not confident themselves. Yeah amazed they felt that had to be stuck with to explain. Us what was I was funnily enough? I think all three of us went all with R2D2. You can like art does R2D2 resonate the now want to keep because I know one of your favorites is the little the new Droid really you made a really interesting fully first that comes into the film he goes up to right right, right. Yeah, and she's like, hi you are now with us and then ended. Yes, he did. But you also said you'd make a really valid point that we discovered that that Droid have bits of information. Ation, yeah, and then they want to find out that information. They just left the character. Yeah. Yeah, I thought was quite I mean bizarrely the two richest character editions were Kiki's favor, which is that Droid. Yeah, and the little guy with the huge hands programs. Yeah. I thought the C-3PO gesture I act that was the only actual part of the film that touch that emotional part actually because I felt like C-3PO not Things have been kind of glossed over in the last two. Yeah, and when you go back having my document, yeah, I'm having made the documentary is about it George Lucas the entire Genesis of the Star Wars whole concept originated with these two traveling droids. And those are the original two Messengers. If you think of them as the kind of you know, the classic Tales of Don Quixote kill sorrow film films were influencing Lucas. He started with the droids and for him, they were the duo out of which the entire Thing emerged so I felt having a bit more see-through, but I wanted a bit more of R2D2. I would have died Constantine's left. Yeah. Yeah left again, but he's been left in all three and I thought they could have had some real moments between the two of them dialogue moment. So you never underestimate your door. Yeah, I thought maybe it was all right, and this is the wrong things again. I think that was maybe a lack of confidence on I mean to say that phrase never never ever underestimate ER which they said about four times, but then Say the actual Droid. Yes, because oh, yeah, I wish that the film kind of stuck with the sad stuff. What's it like with C-3PO? Yes his memory the yes, just let him use his marriage. Yeah sounds as sad as it would have been fed as it was as much as we would have wanted to get every back him getting his memory back was kind of just a bit like predictable like Of course it going to get giving this money that anyone even when it's supposed to be impossible. It was like they were unnecessarily babysitter. And also we're going after us next week to back her dying. He should have died. That was that is it is a sad thing is highly agree. You know, it kind of gives you more of well, it would give you a reason it would make you come out so that we don't have a car yet as a woman. She we did. I mean like we do with our so it would give you that tear in your home. Whereas actually the fact that they kind of it was a bit of a cheap dramatic. Trick wasn't it killing him but not killing it. And also I just never thought this before but toback annoyed me. He got on my nerves are irritated me. So I didn't mind to different places. Yeah, I'm running around in the background. Yeah. It was a really good scene in the desert which was my favorite see, you know, when he goes running off behind the world. Shooting the the Stormtroopers is a bit was running and I was like, oh my God. He looks so old. Yes. Yeah, you did and this is the opening. Well, this is a bit Bolder and they could have killed chewy and had C-3PO his head can mind completely erased that would have been quite dramatic film wanting to have been hurt. Yeah, because I didn't feel her at all. Whereas if I came out feeling her out of had that bigger my room. I wanted to the toilets and I pinched my cells yourself to cry. I didn't cry at all. It wasn't that type of film. But the only character is a character that even took me close to that and this is surprising is once again Adam Driver because you can do emotion as well as you know playing. Well, what about presumably what about the moment when he met been met. Me he met daddy. Yes Han Solo would you think about it was a bit? I don't know is we would do for that. Do you remember that bit, but I just wonder whether it was good Robert De Niro. He's lost a lot. He's lost. A lot of weight lost a lot of years according to that. It was about 50 the shape of his head was a bit different. It wasn't his lost. A lot of weight. I couldn't do my shit doesn't seem at all you were obsessed with how we look a bit weird and like I just need a house for don't really want to be there for Star. Well, you know, she doesn't want to be there. He's never wanted to be there from the very beginning. I mean Mark Hamill to be fair the yet you say there's a carpenter always wrong with laughing say I don't know why we will talk. About a mile about Harrison Ford bit. Never want to know that's right because I found the whole Harrison Ford moment Han Solo moment Iggy. Yeah in all the wrong ways. Well, I did stupid also than Mark Hamill bits as well. I mean he won't what has happened to his face. In the last year, he dangerously became a bit committed remember that moment where he says sorry shoulder and he had the sort of chorus of little penguin, but then why those birds those funny creatures are there why because when they took it to when they took it to the edit and everything like that, they had to cover up all the naturally inhabiting puffins with something. So there are thousands on the island and they can't shoot there whether it's somewhere up in out that funny Island beginning with Kayla. So those are all things apparently on The Wider shots to cover the puff. So underneath all of those those weird things of puffins ghetto thought was an extra extra and Star Wars. No, but within the last Jedi Luke became a bit committed you remember she heard that he felt like he was a bit of a jigging idiot. Yeah, and I think there's a bit of shredded wheat Princess Leia, they've used shot footage they had a limited amount of footage. Yeah, and they really do you believe I did if you didn't know that she died, would you have you believe it? Oh, that's really good. Oh, yeah. That was I'm saying I felt that you felt lack of new dialogue over seeds because she's reacting to completely different lines. Yeah used to run a different perspective, but it's good that obviously for a younger audience. Yeah, if you're not overly and I didn't feel any emotion when she's coming. This is going to take all the energy she has left. She said Ben and then she died. It has really been a hand with it wasn't a hand was it a typical thing to do as well? The hand falling? That's that's a Disney movie. That's no lie. Maybe there were two socials my wife. She was like, maybe they were to reverential to surprised how efficient yeah, the first time princess doing nearly died. She ends up Superman and Batman TV shows and all this time. She drives like snow was pathetic. It's very The moment there is almost like I mean, I know JJ Abrams has done the interview saying how respectfully I want to be technical. I've got what I've known could be more of a fan of Carrie Fisher layer as the me Baha. I do feel like you're right. It's like that literally the tail that's won't the door and maybe they should have just ditched her or she should have died off camera or something out at I was surprised that I mean she looked very good enough. Would you say that she was dead if I was one of the kids behind me? Kylo Ren's Narrative of Mark I actually like is that about who the hell is this? Yeah, comment low rate so he's down. No, but it takes so long for me to actually produce. I thought he was racing brother for a second. Han Solo and Princess Leia's son. Yeah, how is Luke Skywalker is Princess Leia's brother Liu task? I'm Darth Vader is the father of Luke Skywalker access layer. So Darth Vader is also kylo Ren's grandfather. Okay, that makes sense of that doesn't Family First no Ray is the Emperor Palpatine. Thank you. Yeah, he's the grand different. He's the grandfather of different family line a difference. Here's the interesting variation. Ya know the interesting thing. It's called the rise of Skywalker. Yes. She's not a Skywalk. She is she's in the corner Luke and Leia. Yeah. She's kind of gone. Well, I'm kind of I'm kind of like I've inveigled my way in. Yes, I've started into Skywalker then I'm Skywalker. She kind of said but here's the thing if you actually examine this film examine this film. She is the granddaughter of the most evil entity ever in the in the Star Wars Universe. Yeah. She's she's this isn't the rise of Skywalker. This is the rise of the Sith. Well, excuse me, but don't you think she can be anything she Masturbate and she has not forsaken a is insane. Hello people saying a lot of irritating. There's already same family names are us. She's not Sky. She's already there's a meme running around saying I identify as a Skywalk. Yeah. So yeah, I mean so so, you know her connection is with Palpatine you say so he is currently horrible really horrible. What do we think of conflicted then if I don't got that a bit earlier on I wouldn't the Sith thing didn't mean anything to me BC. So for me, it's a curious one because actually the Victor isn't I'm sort of the rise of Skywalker. I you know, I'm curious to know Star Wars fans. I am not an Aficionado nor an academic nor an analyst. I am an Ardent fan and I saw so documentary filmmaker. Yeah, but also in the making those documentaries that I did about it you realize that people are so into the micro. I'm not actually yeah, and actually that interested. I'm interested in the emotional washer and emotional truth. I'm fat not the absolute fact. What do we think of the action was as bad as the last ones action was just I thought that the only good thing about the action in the last one was that shot of the ship's going over the Sands like red powders, but I did although I did mind any of the fight scenes in this I want to stand out once for me, I like to stand out like action bit with her flipping over there. That was fantastic. That was millisievert this over the see that I thought. I mean, I thought beautiful CGI. Yeah, the the Sea and the Sea, you know, whenever I say everything I know about that, but I thought the standout sort of seeing was the one that you're saying where she went over my great. I mean for me that was the one scene and interestingly when I when I said that muddy you also said you some interesting it was the one scene where they let it breathe. Yeah. We just sat on a shot of her. Yeah. We saw thinking processing. Not allowed us to just sort of build at no point did this film allow for any reflection? No Gathering. Yeah, or or even just let some ambiguities. Yeah. Let's just wonder what the hell's going on here a bit Yeah to it was too afraid to let go of trying to rectify things for the fan base. And for the new audience. Yeah, and I think you just ended up losing its we haven't mentioned it. I know I always say the name wrong. I can't pronounce the actually the way you Say his name but domhnall Gleeson. I thought was really good in it. Yeah. Yeah. Do you have funny stuff? That could have been good if it were thrown away and I felt a really Grand had probably given them a lot more than like I felt. Did you know that is only because he's right for that kind of vicious? Perfect. Perfect. Yeah, but the say the moment he shot them and or Gleason. Yeah it finally yeah was so dismissive. Yeah, and if you're willing to do that with that character be a bit more, I think it needed a bold darkness in it. It wouldn't know what there was some characters as well as and what you guys that what did you guys think is it is his name Billy Ray something like this. Yeah. I thought he was off. That was he was trapped in there for my generation. But I know what I never really connected with Lando Calrissian. I sort of felt in a way he was necessary because he bought the old film and leave them together. Well, he sounds solos chummy, of course. Yeah Channel owner of the Millennium Falcon. Well, he's Childish Gambino played the younger human soul of the force awaken Force awakens. That's yeah, but when Han Solo first came into and everything when those characters are oh my God. Yes did it in? When he stepped out from the show, I didn't feel any the kind of a film. They were scraping the bottom of the barrel was a kind of original cars and of who else was significant that there is anything wrong with it character, but the way they did it don't feel the Nostalgia of amazed. They didn't drag Darth Vader back in summer. Yeah. Absolutely. Well, they haven't much time mask when I thought horses running on a Star Destroyer is not right. No, and also I mean, I just thought that was a ridiculously sort of it was like opening a manhole on Top of it. I mean that that I don't know. That's what I mean by believability and I just wouldn't believe that a Cavalry horses would be running across a star destroyer and then you know that whole thing of stardestroyers have the ability to destroy entire planets. Yeah, and I like that in the first row. We've got to move on it goes back to this thing. Yeah, Maddie often talk about superhero films where I think and I think Adam Driver was giving us all of this. Yeah. We you need the conflict to be more internal. I think that's why the Empire Strikes Back is considered one of the best. Yeah, you've got all of that stuff going on inside loop. Yeah. It's all kind of that's why I think That's why I love kylo Ren's character. So yes, I've always thought colorings character was a really good one to add in and why Adam Driver has been so because it because it is all internal conflict. You know, what gives you everything in was weird but familes. Yes, you know. Yeah Thomas is so evil. Yes kind of acts so calm. Yeah and it's kind of the same thing with kylo Ren like when you sleep until rate is really quite a bit like a cult leader, you know, I mean, yeah, see why you'd want to yeah, just like the cold. Why do you want to trust him but we have it mentioned it. So I had a massive problem with them killing off. Once again, as soon as it gets bloody interesting. They're going to kill a bloody cares and everything and then you should have heard the kids behind me. They all screamed and applauded. Yeah. Well, it was a nice World died and then they just going to keep swapping. Is he going to heal him and that there's cheese. I thought all of that was great harked back to the days of the kisses in the earlier films and you're sort of thinking. Oh, yeah great. He dies. Can I just she said she just gets crazy eyes and goes she got over that really quick. There were no consequences for anything and I felt that in knows they were almost so immune from being hit by a Storm Trooper. They were never in danger explains plot point to me, you know the grandfather so this today. Yeah, who was the route has already been thrown down a great Longstreet? Yeah. Thanks Daisy to killing. Yeah, she refuses because then she will automatically become. The most part yes, but then she kills him. Well, I felt him from I felt the whole Emperor Palpatine thing was a little bit like the Lando Calrissian a lot of critics a lot of really intricately into this stuff Star Wars efficient, although saying clearly the problem with the sear this these three films is they didn't have a roadmap at the very beginning and they leave and they needed a roadmap. Where were they going? What was the plan damn right you need to know? You ending and what they did was they had a real backlash against the Last Jedi from the fan base and they thought where the hell can we clutch at a villain? It can't be Vader. He's well and truly like the generation of Beyond bring the Palpatine back and I thought okay, we're going to play on that funny thing of all Stormtroopers of clothes, right? Yeah. So if they're all clones then snoke the great villain in The Last Jedi, but they also kill he was in lots of jars wasn't easy cloning him. Yeah. I like so is palpitating. During the clone of himself. Yeah, I think did they even further? I think they might have done at one point, but I just thought they just brought him in. It was a bit like a sort of pantomime villain. Yeah in with very little thought for how this screwed up what they call the Star Wars law. Yeah, you played it. Well, I thought well Yuma covered up but then I did feel his face looks very prosthetic e it did but before his makeup on his lips look to be rough at times. Yeah. I think I know why she killed him. She was supposed to kill him, you know when she was very importantly start the why are ya then she ended up refusing. Yes kind of rain comes in and then he took their energy to yes, that's right. And then she must have been something about him. It was a lot of income because he cut because their energies flowing traffic alive, whereas before he was kind of like The Walking Dead thing. Yes, it must be something about when once he took their energy. Yeah, and then she killed him. Yeah. She didn't somehow then. Yeah, but come the but it's there will be no. Logic behind will be suddenly you saying that put it all together is that they haven't got enough actual Star Wars facts like you would be able to stay at this this this is this and what they do is they keeping all the things really short give yes. It's because they're too worried to tell you exactly so they don't stay in any set up for long enough because they're petrified. Yeah, but the Ardent fans are going to Pick holes in it go that's not right. That's all right. So what they do is they move on they move on. Yeah, what happens is nothing nothing stands and what they should be doing. I mean for me this was possibly one of the biggest disappointments of all the Star Wars films. This is the calm yet. This is the comb yet. Even the last one. Yeah because it's made me cry reconsider The Last Jedi, I didn't like it. I didn't like what it did at the time. I didn't like some of the choices it made but it it it was trying to do something different. Different it was trying to strike off into new territory. If you think back to those seams of the refracted her and all that think he did the dialogue that by watching this what by watching this. I realize that you can only keep doing the Star Wars thing of the original Star Wars thing so many times it can't read be recreated an interesting Series. Yeah. Everyone's loving it. They're loving and they're loving it because they're spending time. There's a series of 10. Yeah, no crushing it and it's completely new sort of area. What they've done is they've just extended a good idea. Yeah should have just been the original Three. I wonder yeah, do you think you can wait I'll get going. Okay. Well, it's summer I noticed that from the kids behind me who cheered and did all the rights that not made all the right noises what they didn't like and I thought isn't it funny how things change in history, you know those things where they were Collective things happening like cafes and whatever and there'd be there'd be somebody who was made up heavily to be a different race than the diver and I hear and I'm like, yeah and you love that when you were they all thought they wouldn't they didn't accept that at all. And I wonder whether that's why they kept it short because modern films these days somehow when they make something they make them so much better than those don't you think like the sort of ET look with an i there and an eye then how did it work for you? I mean bear in mind that you don't know enjoyed it far more than I thought. That was partly because it took is it such a And I was sort of my crush belong I liked her as the heroine. I love Adam Driver despite the fact that it was on rather and Auntie Adam Driver thing because he's in too much at the moment. It's so washable that you know, they're going to linger over all that. I wish I had a felt that which was sort of became bit of a major thing about the CGI in the background because I felt some of the most amazing-looking scenes won convincingly, right and I wanted to be convenient did it deliver for you as a standalone film or did was it created? Because it's a critical component of three films and really it's a it's a fine the finale to nine. So I would give it a 7.5 in 7.5 for me. It's quite hard to sum up because I thought that it was a very empty film when I really really think about it. I feel like a lot happened but nothing happened and I felt zero emotion in it. Really? Yeah. I felt all the emotions that I might have felt the quite forced like when I Having fun. It was all because I wanted to find something funny but actually being funny. I wanted to feel more sadness than I did. I wanted to come out of the film having been heartbroken, but I didn't and I don't know I just felt like I will give it to the I thought the actors I feel sorry for the actors in it because I feel like there was so little that they were given to do and they did really well considering what they were given like John boyega and Oscar Isaac and Daisy. I felt like, you know the script Was not good in this room at all, but not it was bad not even in a good way. You know, I mean like like we say with the originals it's not better like it's not brilliant for its script but it worked as you said yeah, it gives you something. Yeah, there's something else but there was there wasn't anything else. No, that's right. I don't know. I just felt kind of the new characters like the actress from the new end of the effing World season. Yeah, I character not by thrower in just give me water some of the already existing characters. The menu of the strongest ones that kylo Ren and not killing off ones that kind of should be killed off like to baccarat. Yeah C-3PO. I don't know. It's just I just found it very disappointing and I didn't even go in there expecting it. You know, I tried to go in there not getting excited. Okay, and I still was disappointed. Okay, but I will still say that I think it's better than the last Jedi. I think that this better because I felt like it wasn't my problem with the last Yellow was it was trying too hard? Yeah be it's a new thing. Yeah, and I like that this film kind of saved it from that a bit and Maurice little bit of the old films but what it gave us from the old films. I didn't feel any Nostalgia, you know, how kind of sadness feeling I've got very it was very wouldn't it was such a good and film quite a bit like marriage story. I just didn't feel anything. Well, I thought I'd enjoy this performance was brilliant. Trey wow, thank you baby. Hey what say about it? It's interesting you so much you can say so and it was just so not what I expected. I wasn't I'd like I agree with Mario's it going into it like game. I wasn't getting excited was like, I was worried it was going to be bad but then was popping Zion is going to be good because you know Star Wars and I love oh, yeah. I was really disappointed but I mean, I think it was it was almost as bad as the other one. I really didn't like it. We board I wasn't born. I was what it didn't I couldn't I couldn't watch it again. No, no, no straight. That's interesting. If I were really long as well. You said It felt sure I thought I felt it felt short because I was thinking more was going to happen just weird and she's funny. I should say that you weren't bored, but it was boring. It was boring but you weren't bored and they're hoping it would get better but also because they kept ramming it full of stuff. Yeah, it's just like my shift seem to have changing. Yes stuff, but full of nothing something really happened in the film but a lot happened. What's a lot of nothing happens. You have any favorite characters main characters? Yeah, but still they didn't When it started I was like, oh this one I don't need that. All right. Okay, like it's going to be okay, but then yeah as soon as I saw she flipped over 3.5. Okay. Well I went. This not with High Hopes. Actually, I was very nervous because I mean that you know, I don't envy the job that JJ Abrams all lucasfilm's or Disney have with this they were trying to round off and you know, one of the biggest franchises ever created, you know, let's not all pussyfoot around this George Lucas. Didn't know what the hell he was doing at the beginning either and he sure as hell wouldn't have known where this film was going to end up even though he did always envisage the original nine films. It feels a little bit like we've all got a little bit bogged down in thinking that because George Lucas probably said, In an off-the-cuff remark, once there are nine films being made here. We all got a bit sort of slavery SLI attached to the idea that it had to be nine firm. Yeah and in so doing and yeah, what why not 10 or even maybe it should have just been seven and maybe because everything the force awakens did do for me which was the first of these last three it gave me all those masajid warm moments and I cried and characters were killed it took risks it through people or things. Yes, it was derivative. In an ironic strange Twist of everything. I think that's all Star Wars could be in 2019 17 when it was released 2015 was derivative of the original and I think all everyone really wanted from that Force awakens was a real experience of the first film. Yeah, and I think to the extent that you know a lot people criticize it saying it doesn't push don't push them. I think JJ absolutely delivered that word Yahweh delivered a retelling of a similar tail and I got the same nostalgic magic. You're right the last year that I then tried to do a sort of prequel. The thing that kind of didn't work. There are a couple of moments in it that will kind of potentially interesting. I just don't I just don't agree on Johnson as a filmmaker to be honest like the red scenes at the end and I go like the dialogue between Ray and thingy. Yeah, you know some crude crucially bad decisions were made that so I came into this expecting it to be JJ trying to rescue the trilogy and the nine films and steer it back towards some semblance of self-respect and keep the fan. Yeah, and I think has he done that perhaps he has perhaps he has and perhaps it accomplishes that job. I don't really understand the point of accomplishing that job when there's no more films in The Saga to be made. Yeah. I think you may as well go out on a rip-roaring experimental complete throw it all up in the air. You don't need to protect any of these characters. You don't need them all hugging each other in the forest with the Ewoks waving again. You have that in Return of the Jedi. Absolutely. Okay. That sounds like Okay, so we've been Planing about Adam drivers character kylo Ren dying, but do something else do something that kind of will need to select the ones strong yet. Well the ones from it but none of these carrots are theoretically none of these carrots are going to reach Beyond this Saga. So if this is the end I personally was thinking and I keep reading these reviews about it. I think if they could have part the thought that perhaps Daisy wasn't wholly good and that this was about the success actually of Palpatine and the Sith. I think this is an inadvertent. That we've all just stumbled upon is actually a Sit that on the granddaughter of the most evil person is actually the Survivor. I think that would have been a richer end. Yeah, perhaps this is evil has some yeah exactly and I think they could have afforded to do that were upsetting Disney and I was profoundly disappointed. This was this felt like a film made by committee. It felt like it was a film, you know, it feels like Kathleen Kennedy still leave lucasfilm's has to go. There's talk of Jon Favreau being Placing other has to happen to as a bit technical but just for the fan base. I think Jon Favreau has to come in from the Mandalorian and rescue things as does Kevin feige. Yeah. Well everything in the Mandalorian looks good. Everything in the Mandalorian is what everyone says this this stuff should have been and this just has to be put to bed. I mean, I personally think this was the most disappointing not because it was necessarily a worse film than the Last Jedi, but it had to be so much more of a better film to end all nine. Well, it had to be so much. More sophisticated but I think it had to do less be shorter even and just focus on little moments a bit more. Yeah, and I felt a bit cheated. There's the two moons of tattooing. There's Luke's old gas. Yes that kind of and they were trying to trigger that kind of emotion. It's you just couldn't they couldn't do it for me. They didn't do it. So I'm going to give this to our tent. Wow, I was really really let down really let down the final thing. I do want to say was your mom said something that was really horrible yesterday to me which was it's irrelevant. No one cares about it. And unfortunately when I came out of this film tonight last night, I was left thinking it's very hard for me to argue that it is relevant to anything. It felt utterly irrelevant and utterly pointless. Yeah. It's a I think your mom's right now not the three not the original Three, but that's how bad the things of God what you need to do is you need someone to just be left alone to get on with creating new Star Wars shit like Pharaoh has a the Mandalorian welcome. Haven't seen in the sky. So in other words, it's worse than doing nothing. Whatever and I think in a weird way, that's my Disney and I'm going to slow up the films coming out soon realized. It's gone wrong. Yeah has gone wrong. Yeah, it's gone majorly wrong. Yeah.
#starwars #theriseofskywalker #episodeIX  Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker (also known as Star Wars: Episode IX – The Rise of Skywalker) is a 2019 American epic space-opera film produced, co-written, and directed by J. J. Abrams. It is the third installment of the Star Wars sequel trilogy, following The Force Awakens (2015) and The Last Jedi (2017), and the final episode of the nine-part "Skywalker saga". [a] It was produced by Lucasfilm and Abrams's production company Bad Robot Productions, and was distributed by Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures. The film's ensemble cast includes Carrie Fisher,[b] Mark Hamill, Adam Driver, Daisy Ridley, John Boyega, Oscar Isaac, Anthony Daniels, Naomi Ackie, Domhnall Gleeson, Richard E. Grant, Lupita Nyong'o, Keri Russell, Joonas Suotamo, Kelly Marie Tran, Ian McDiarmid, and Billy Dee Williams. After the new trilogy was announced following Disney's acquisition of Lucasfilm in 2012, it was originally reported that The Last Jedi director Rian Johnson would write the script for Episode IX. In August 2015, Colin Trevorrow was hired to direct the film while constant-collaborator Derek Connolly would co-write a new script (both would eventually receive story credit with Abrams and Chris Terrio). In September 2017, Trevorrow left the project following creative differences with producer Kathleen Kennedy, and a few days later, it was announced that Abrams had been hired to return. Principal photography began in August 2018 at Pinewood Studios in England, and wrapped in February 2019; post-production was completed on November 24, 2019. 