This is the who we be podcast with me DJ sensex. Every alternate we could connect with the people that Define our culture. I'm talking to the producers DJ's you artists big artist legend legend web has hit four Blue Cave at Grime a full swing. I'm doing all of that all of that all of that. This is our culture. This is who we are. This is who we deal with be we're currently experiencing a Renaissance for UK wrap. It was like every week or new guy. Because emerging the sold-out tour has been announced gold and platinum plaques being awarded for singles and albums and although there are hundreds of them sees fighting for that. Number one spot Jay has served up common sense one of the best UK albums ever the how do you make a critically acclaimed Mercury nominated written nominated classic? How do you sell a hundred fifty thousand plus albums J5 is the producer the architect and the backbone of Common Sense. They sit down right here for the whoo beep. Cast today we manage a five reason why I want to talk about with you today is because I want to find out what it takes to make a classic problem with me right now J5 producer of Gold album Vietnam and dated like everything nominated Common Sense might a horse but like this this is the guy that architect behind the scenes right now J5 what's going on? Man, I'm good, man. Hi. Oh good. Oh good. Oh good. So to get started like when did you make your first track your first be first be the first week. I can't give an age where I know I was in Ghana using a bootleg free lips. Just a demo version waking it safe. So when I was like 12 12, yeah, what inspired you to make beats boredom. I'm serious. Yeah, just having nothing else to do and listening to music and trying to understand how it was created. So I will pull them I I copying like copying Timberland boots and stuff. See if they will Timberland be. Favorite turbulent be enough to be Missy Elliot. I don't know that the tiles away Caesar, you know, I don't know if I can throw your casa. She's a bitch. So I could hear his vocal I could get him beatboxing in certain beats. I could hear Cowboys are your money like I could just hear random instruments that were meant to be instruments. What did you like about? She's a bitch. I don't know if it's the groove or something. I don't know something catches you from drop. It's just it's like a salute but it doesn't lose your attention. You're stuck in a loop and I couldn't understand how something could repeat for so long and I'm not bored of it. Did you like the way it breaks down towards the end. When when I first started listening to I wasn't really the breaking down how I just knew that that's what I liked. I liked the sound of it. I've actually gone back and listen to Listen to answer your they did this they did that but or either this but it was the first thing I was like yo, this is a rhythm and I wasn't caring about the vocals to talk for hours listening to the beat. So when did you realize you was good at making beats because like people try and it a try to make a video more the use like a basic keyboard or something and then just double but like when was it like you was like, you know what I can't do this Papa. I realized I could do it proper when When it started getting is from the ends like this local guys, just wanting to vocal stuff because they don't be first to Market. You know, they'll be the first to say yo this is whack allow it but when they were on Vulcan stuff and maybe for like, yeah, ok, cool if they're on it then yeah acting serious Casey come a long way from Ghana from Dublin and Fruit Loops right now. We're in your studio in West London shot today hosts his next-door vocal booth like putting in the work on that, but it's been a crazy Journey right to get to this point. Aunt it's not so what happened. Did you leave Ghana came to the UK? So born here went to Ghana for three years came back and trying to adapt to the music so grams of your very different from afro piece trying to create groundbaits anyone sounded like Graham you make when you try to make them so I can make graham now right but when I first started they didn't sound like Graham because I was my influences were at four beats and hip life stuff. So it was like a program. I don't even know what it would be is just it In fit in of what was claimed that might be a new thing right there. But yeah, hopefully but then fitting so when was this like when you was back in the UK, what year was this? One guy? Remember two years? I'm 25 now and I came back when I was 13. Yeah, fine. Well tracks was poppin at that time. Thank yous and peas Kano your p's and q's is one of ya que. No, Powers before that but it was still it was still a tune like boy in the corner ever. Yeah, it's damn time with kids are 2003 a kind of ever probably. I'm bad to date. So you tell me all right. All right. So what happened next like you said you were making beats and there's like for my name in the ends is that is all right. Yeah just for just for friends just like on a 1-pound Mike from literally from the 1 pound shop just recording tracks. You know, what pal Mike. Wow, that's awesome. But yeah, just doing that and then I my uncle blem. He was a rapper. So use rapper by name of blemish and he works with quite a few eyes and then he was just easy. You just take me into just like every weekend I'll just go to his studio and you let me sit down and just watch and stuff and pick up things and like his circles was really good producers who had sticky those next door at stryver like those a few lat Michael million those that console does like a bunch of producers who were doing their thing. I could just sit down and watch I could go from room to room and just learn from somebody that was popping. What did you learn from those guys? I can't pinpoint exactly what I learned from each of them, but they influence the sound because I would copy what they would do. I would sit down watch and the copy exactly I would even copy where he put the cake away, but it's there like I wasn't even trying to do it different. I was trying to copy because they were popping I wanted to do exactly what they were doing. So I couldn't tell you what I learnt per se but I'll just copying stick. He's like one of the most successful UK AG producers ever to come out of the UK. Is there anything you picked up from Emma anything that you clocked and we will do everything to do with mixing and sound and before I could even pop reproduce. He was always the one that was like ours not really about what you place is. What sounds you choose what based on your base and your like he was always on base. So make sure your base is right. Make sure you're kicking a basis, right and I couldn't get but I think from him I took bass kick based up the movement like the way the relation between them and things like that. So let's fast forward. Let's move forward when Would you say you started to develop your own style? Like the the J5 sound? I got actually put a day on the I don't even up to this day. I don't really know what J5 sound is just music like literally people label and say yo you good afro, swing sound. However, it's just making beats. I don't know. I don't have to explain it. Like I don't know if Tim Burton has a sound is he's just hip-hop unit futuristic though. Yeah. Well, you know, I mean they didn't give him a genre. I was just a part of it, but he's off to you could tell a Timberland Beats. Is there yeah, okay. Yeah, you can so I don't know about the Sound by just a producer certain way in it. So if if it sounds similar if I don't know if it's a sound it's more that's just how I produce when you first connect with Jay Haas. I can't give you a date while my opinion free years ago free for years ago freeze DJ's young boss. So they were friends. They used to come to the studio the time like DJ Enuff parties, and they were just on me you have to work with our boy house after work about white house and I longed it for the longest time. I just Why do you linger about tired of recording artist? So I was recording I recorded every rapper and he and his brother who the wrapper on and it started to sound the same. It was like same lyrics different voice. So I started getting tired. I only did the session if I need money like 20 an hour if I got peace to the cool quick and bang out quick five hour session and I didn't need the money the time so I just wasn't on it until they got the time where they will do turn up at the students a yo hot. She's coming to our like they forced it and then know that I know it well. He's DJ's forced it like they forced the session. Okay. Wow on May 24 cents a pound that Alan just do it together the way did it further sighs? All right start again in general. I started enjoying the sessions it was it got to a point where I stopped asking stop charging money or just like, you know, you didn't say comes to your list. That's what it became fun to actually do music and I hadn't I hadn't enjoyed music for a while because I was just doing it for money. What was the first track that you guys did Together Vacation? I didn't produce it. It was just a recording so he had his lyrics already written. He knocked down like 15 minutes. Did he? Vocals I recorded it gave me a quick mix down and I think he uploaded it online two hours later. What was the track that you first produce them where he rapped on it? And he dropped it the first track I produced for him probably wasn't even the track that he released. There was a song called forget to hates or get hit over that he had already written. He wanted on the original because I was on YouTube. So I reproduce to be and then we put energy on it and the song that came out for a while. He drops other songs that we produced and then he went on his mixtape. What plane will point was it like, you know, you start to take him seriously because it's gone from you're doing it for the money. You guys are the vibe and then what point was it? Like yeah, you know what I need to give this my only dedicate all my time to this was quite early early on I'm talking like probably like four sessions in he would come to the studio when I and I'll be making I was still trying to make pop and drum and bass and stuff like that and he's walking in here me doing a drum and bass something a bit. I was so far from what he's doing and he start rapping and he would optic lyrics and I'm like yo you jump and he's like, yeah, whereas other rappers would come in and they might as well produce the song they will tell you all the kick has to be this way. I've heard me goes new tree needs to they just wanted to replicate he was down to jump on anything. So that was like yo, I could actually experiment with this guy, you know you produce you in the studio like you it sounds like you're a point where you're taking your crap seriously like you develop in the sound you put in time and it you're doing your 10,000 hours without even realizing it but how is it possible to get? Someone to focus on their craft and ignore everything else because in the beginning I heard loads of stories. I heard like who's on the streets, you know, is this a lot and I hear about other people in that but it's like, oh, you know, it's not like so far. So pave save you can't tell someone to focus when like they're hungry. They got stuff to do like it's not paying music takes everything from you. Before you say anything back like you have to pay for his sessions. Where is he finding the money for his sessions? You can't tell him and drop this and take this serious when you can't even get transport to the studio. Hey, what is that frustrating for yourself though? When you're coming through Point nice different now you done it with that now, but when you were coming through was that did you feel any kind of frustration with the fact that you just wanted to get on with it? But there's other things stopping that from happening a hundred percent. It's it's irritating because Like you put your all into someone else's project. So I'll put everything in someone else's project and they could turn around and just - it like do something silly or like something out circumstances like yo, yeah that two weeks. She just spent on them track subscribe him slave. Yes, I happen to you. Yeah quite a bit more than it should yeah. You know who's coming through? There's a point back in the day. There's the media was just on him like they misinterpreted like something that was in the paper now and how was that back then because I just want I just want to get a picture of like what it is. You went through to get to making common sense. I can't even explain this for us. We don't we didn't understand or know the how many the power of media and all that stuff is really Word where everything he says it's blown up times 5 so it's like you're telling the guy to watch what he says and he doesn't even realize how big he is and he says or does something and then we're trying to kill him. So you'll delete delete what you just did it and then famously about newspapers and you're like, oh fuck he's all of us. Like I still not used to it like he was in the newspapers every day for taking a picture. Yeah. It was still not used to it like and I'm leaving the person is that show called? Yeah. It's just a picture. Like I saw to again crazy. It's like damn I couldn't live like that personally, but what was it like making a mixtape mixtape fun? You did a mix tape in two weeks. It was just a Vibe. The mixtape was it wasn't our we've blown or we're gonna get money from this it was I remember as managers wanted to sell it. It was like knocking for free just it was just a Vibe was just knocked out a mixtape 15 songs two weeks. That's put out there and then it did well and then it was down to the sold it. All right, when you're in the studio together, do you feed of him or Z feed of you? Like has it over? There's been times where he was thought that idea a lot of the times you say you say yo J. My mom's feeling this 50 Cent to know I was listening to it and it's got can wrap over vocals you listen to a song and be rapping on top of the song and I can't even function. So sometimes he might have something already from an idea. He heard on the song that was playing on radio. I'm and say I've got something or you come and say you on black man. Just stop. Start something. It depends. Sometimes my feet of the FED. Someone else's DJ's would say yo, I heard the song it does. There's no structure lean and Bob was dope one of my favorite all-time horse tracks bang Stanley was dope and that that is like next-level. I remember one Sunday dropped like I was talking to gigs in cases like yo, you see that track that you know, you start breaking down the significance of that tracks and you know is deep. Did you guys know what you was doing when you made that joint did No, it was doing but I was put on Soundcloud but I that one I could promise on you was a hit because I like we finished the song. I like Freedom when we didn't finish. It was like all the time Freedom one and I got home and I put it I sent myself an email and I listened to it and I called his magistrate was like yo we got here. I'm going back to the studio to ask to come back to students finish it so we went back and finished it so that song I'd always be like yo this Only Hits and hit there's just the one that I knew was a hit for some reason when he came up with the little guy like my fans with no Heist like How do you feel about that? I was going crazy Joker first when he first said I was thinking you're joking that's not happening. And then I started thinking to myself and I was kind of like you start singing some of the stuff. He says at first you're like and can't see that then you start seeing the back of the that goal. You know, it is it's catchy. I don't know. He's got some genius about he knows what to say things that resonate with people. You've got to streets popping. You got two clubs popping. Your name is ringing out friend Liz popping off. Aeneas to time, how did that affect you remember the definition of someone could throw your figure a man stuck? Because that was looking forward to the album. He's just saying he's about to do is I'll b'm I'm not saying you at this time. So I'm thinking cool. This is the way if I can get the world to hear the music blah blah. And then first thing you think when our eyes goes Joe who sign our he's gettin dropped if he can okay game over Baptist. At for this fine Plan B. But luckily these labels really understanding like really understand didn't drop him was still supporting. So it didn't change any change that much but it did they did caused a scare. It's like I was thinking dime. So what I do now, this is my only Outlet of music. That's actually making noise. What did you do for that? Six months. I did a bunch of sessions a few senses you exactly at this obsessions. Just watch with with artists like trying to trying to keep busy during that period did you think boy that's it. It's done. Do you ever think it's a wrap because there's some weapons have been inside before and they come back out and it's not the same the day you want Joe supposed to speak at these bandages for tiles with you know, this is over. It's finished. Maybe they went out they got nicked when you get a job, but at time we kind of show the support delay was giving you that they wouldn't it wasn't gonna drop him. But when you got next it's like yep, nice knowing you guys. You know, my just busted up. I'm going to I'm going to get my job back at ee because he please don't like his album spent all my money on equipment like yeah, it was like About that was that first session like when he came back out six months later smooth. He already written he had so much right. This is what annoys me because he writes things and it's good. But if he gets bored of it, he will never let you put out. So stop that he'd written from like a book load of stuff he fruit thinking through the book away like he's about them was we was excited. We're like album done like yes, let's do it. And I think you only did like a boss from that whole poke through the book of Islam border and about no one's heard it and I'm and I come right back. He always does that if he gets pulled over, Song it's not coming out. When did the album start like when did you start workin Common Sense? What was the first track the first track was done before we even knew was going to do an album. So it was the first track was both Daddy and that was done mixtape days and it was the song that he never finished that so it didn't get go on a mixtape and it had been sitting there for so long. Everyone was horrified like doesn't need reproducing as any vocal and he's written like four different verses for that song. But then when he got out of jail, he will straighten it straight on the album didn't even take no other sessions for good. Six months was just being him everyday. What was like some of the key moments like in those sessions I was the most memorable moments to you like making the music. Remember the moments was when you know, you've got a bag on it softer. You you've made a song and your power like because we made like song that closed doors and stuff. They weren't to traditional Haas hype songs. That's like a very far from No Lie, which was - aggression and you played to his boys the ones that were just tell U OJ turn this shit off like yo like they will tell you like and then Yo, this is Coney Island moments. Yeah. What's your favorite giant of Common Sense closed doors closed doors or common sense those two common sense is crazy the actual title track. Yeah, that's straight G-Unit error 50 Cent Get Rich or Die trying' Vibes. What was it? Like when he was recording that I'm familiar. Yeah, like he'd written the first verse. I think he'd written the first first from Joe. I'm not too sure. I think you're the first was already and then we started skeleton beat that was like it would beat was poor. I think send it to the label sent to Joe's like yeah, and he's Product needs traffic to probably sell it to you as well. It needs a bill and then we got composers in and then they they smashed it like these. How did you feel like seeing them photo? Because like if they really brought a life, right? Yeah, not they they hear things very different to what I was I don't know because they play so where they took the train from where it was originally was I was baffled as I couldn't hear that I didn't feel as possible and then we came back to him it in the middle. So one thing with demos that they're crazy talented did like they had The long intro they did some musical stuff. That was like, okay cool. This might be too much people won't care. So like just it was actually taken things out more than I didn't stuff after they were done with it inspired a lot of everywhere because right I think so the Diplomatic website. So common sense like it is been revered as one of the greatest UK rap albums of all time. I've had rappers telling me that I've had critics telling me that I've had you know, those Hip Hop Heads that are like, you know, Customers say about everything. Yeah, they figure these things to biggest one of all time, you know, like is one of them and love them that conversations. But how did you decide what to put on there? Because it's very very different. Each track is very different to the next and go back to what you were saying about what the J5 sound is your production sounds differently throughout it. I think I've been my side was easy because I purposely would make the song sound different but in terms of picking what songs it was more content thing is just you had a phase where he wrote a lot of songs about girls. You just had a phase and we kept again. I'm say you're right. We need to go back to mixtape took some put some shit in it. Like just took some crowd and the guys are all his guys just like you I'm not living it. I can't talk about it. I'm not I'm a living it like I was thinking man like some shit that happened because we we need some aggression. So it was once we got a few more songs that the aggressive songs with the latest songs that were done. So like lying goodies were all kind of done towards the end. Once we find some credible / Frankie once we got those like yeah, we got at least one high point in there. Do you guys fight or did you fight while he was making an album you fall out? Never never we've never fooled never actually falling up get grumpy. Like I tell him I like I have to have OCD with like things lying around. I like places clean and I think he's just blase you just leave. These are black pickup and I can totally come like a ha but we've never actually like falling out all things. Like if you're staying with someone for six months like it's sleep in the studio for six months every day. Just going to shower sleeping in the studio. Yeah. I was serious. Yeah you cool with that. I've got work to do. Wow. Yes, and again was the point know that must have been a moment where you're like your temper. So you've got to a point where you're like, ah, yeah, like I got there but I realized after wasn't even because of him I had other issues. Like I just had two kids and all of these other things that was just adding on and if I'm seeing house 24/7 I was looking I'm like, ah, it's not even him it's not it's not him right? Like I'm not why did you leave the sweet rapper? I'm losing it for no reason that so yeah. Hi, did you see how did that come about because that's that's a moment. You know it is it's a track that dominates the club's is dominated. The radio is the sound of 2017. You know you French Montana jumped on it. Like how did that come about see we both have different description of how it came up. I think he went to a party where he went and literally he went in a black Benz and left in white pins like that simple. So he had the lyrics already written. And he was spitting the lyrics to me in the car. When was coming back from the party just use the spin it looks at but he started singing it in a melody and happened to have that I had I had just a chord progression that suited the melody was singers are singing on this and see how it sounds and it was that basic normally would be here trying to Vibes create something from scratch. But that one song the Cool progression was done from I think about a month earlier and it was just sitting there doing nothing. That's the melody on the track. Yeah. It was the instrument because it away food. I would like to you so Marion, but it's not it's a some sort. Copy of American bonus it works. And so that again that track is totally different to both daddy. Totally different close the door totally different to clot. And how did that come about that song at a longest process like 15 edits man. Once we lay down the draft like say for example, once he'd lay down the chorus and eight we knew the song was good, but we're missing a second of us forever. And the arrangement of the song was kind of boring because I had to be on just a leap. I try to keep it simple because I wanted to marry overproduce songs. So I just I just said you're gonna keep this one simple. And then I think kilo and Joe goes from black bar. It was like our nominee needs this and he's like, I think I even got feedback from you so much. I think everyone putting on this song like Joe came here from so long as for free days back-to-back rearranging the song and even that like wah, wah sound that's that goes in the bridge. I had it just in the bridge and kilo. Our manager was just like nice. It's better than that has to be in the chorus. Even he started arranging the track you jump on him. Wait there. That's the one song that I think everybody was really involved in the song. Would you call it in the UK wrap? Is it a full swing refurbishment? Like because I see all these titles flying around like but to uj5 producer the track was it I'll be honest. It's closer to the afro side than it is hip-hop. He's not rapping. He's singing the be if you took if you put me whiskey though some on the beat would be an afro beat June so I don't know it's more natural side than actual hip hop. So common sense comes out. Did you surprised by the reaction to it? Like I wasn't surprised by the reaction but I was surprised by how many people actually reacted like how many people listened? I thought it was like what you think we're going to die for I will sell 20,000 30,000 was like now when we can I don't know exactly but over a hundred thousand. I like that. It's on that 160 or some. Yeah that shit Yeah, we actually Is crazy. Did you think you'd get to this point like bearing in mind that you know, you don't mix tape it been through some situations in the street been inside the other thing you guys have a point where you're getting the plaques on your walls. I always feel that will be successful. But then there's always been transported off fuck. It's over like when you go Joe and like times where you do something crazy and turn down a performance that we know could change his career or something and you just you just act irrational black are yeah, it's done - done, but other than that what? No, that guy's talented one. How's it feel to see overall is try to replicate what you guys have done. I love it. I love it. It gives me confidence. At least I know the design right because I used to copy Timberland stuff and and Ryan Leslie stuff and that was me trying to to learn or whatever. So if I hear something that sounds like I did it on like that and yeah, they listening to me like I was listening to table and I catch myself I get excited. I couldn't give two shits if someone copies a big shit hoof gasps Mimi. Woman like copy I'm happy with it man - Liz met on the way is he's sick. He's sick eyes to what was he actually used to do videos where he break down how he made the beat? Yeah making it easier for me to coffee. So he was the go-to guy. Like, I'm looking at this thing placements copying everything. So like the stimulus not really showing anything you just listening to your I'm repeating the loop for so long trying to rip it. Where's right? Let's do just jump but he want to say this did it like yeah. Oh my God. Come here in the studio. We keep Cody. Leslie and you know the success of Common Sense they hit you yet. Sometimes sometimes like obviously horse is a celebrity if he goes outside people yo J howsoever, but every once in a while like I'll be someone watching if I'm like seriously like he did the other Allah ya like more people actually know my name then they know my face kind of thing. So sometimes I don't see how that's a problem shit. So they actually know my name. So I think on that sense. Yeah, you're going to do your solo project. I was happening of you. Honestly, I'm so proud of college. I'm so proud of all that, you know, cheers my pressure say look. I know everyone's been omitted a people have been on the other I say yo, I want to be on your first thing I like yeah. I'm sure you'll kill it man. I was over man kill it which of obviously feeling from the UK because they obviously like daeho's is the one in it being biased or anything like that, but it is what it is. But is there anyone else you feeling is coming through that anyone else that you're watching or you're looking forward to seeing drop that brown Jim Bugsy and as she obviously Davis Kind of ready this I'll call you first name in the but Dave. Lyrically. I don't think people don't forget I can touch the right now. Lyrically. It's a guy the kind of teacher mangy be young. Yeah, I like it was still young basement basement. I don't know if it's coming through because he's in and out. He's had his moments. This one came out same time as host. Yeah, we got them joints. Yeah, he came out slightly before but I think he probably started taking it serious around them times as well. I think similar things and Sliders and all that stuff. But yeah, but yeah base. So based on the coldest eyes their bite is up and down, but other than that, I'm a Boston man. I really listen to anyone it's bad when I'm in the Bible is bad. I don't really listen to anyone. Let's imagine the J5 album is being made and let's imagine you could have anybody on the first single. Who would it be who would you put on that? First joint? First thing? I don't okay. I can give you like first three or four see understand what I'd want to do. I'll do Migos and basement. I'll do popcorn and NSG. I'll do I can't take someone from Rekha. I'll do like future and and all Travis Scott and Dave like all the features like that. I wouldn't have to be someone from UK and someone from there just to show that sometimes these are recognized might get even on a tune with again. Some of these people just level it out. So I would that's that would be my ideal album to have I wouldn't want to have just just have a big Americanized or I want to put And I just I think is on a level with another ice from there and you look go back about let's see who's really having this must be like epic event, you know, if I could all drop it if I like the food today, so we only studio right now shattered a hose. He's in the booth next door. How do you come in here every day and get inspired? How do you like I let time for another. And go outside forces. Yeah, like this veterans are coming at it from the sleep. Like I'm tired because the way we work at like as much as like house house would wake up at 6 in the morning and work till 3:00 a.m. But then I have other people I realize that I've done things with that. I need to finish for three months ago. So I have now got 3 a.m. To 6 a.m. To try and knock out the other artists and then he'll be up again. LOL jail, we good to go. So you like more time your shattered and he just force it just like and then if something That's the sound sick. You're not tired anymore. I don't know when you do something you enjoy you're not hungry or tired. And if it's shit, you just you fall asleep. You can count one. That's when you get your sleep tight when it's wack. Just look house looking like yeah, man, let's take a break. He called got on the first episode to the who we be podcast. We spoke to Dave and he's making down like what it was like working with you and he was breaking down how the Samantha track came about that sounds totally different to everything else you've ever done. Even when I heard that I even think he did it. I was like, oh Okay, this is crazy. And what was that like the working with Dave from your perspective Dave crazy talented like mad. So for example, like with the keys I started because he can play keys. So I started playing I played a basic good. So I played the chords and basically it is our how about you do it like this and as I yeah, yeah that way you just did like literally like he's my talent and then so did that put together drums and bass and in all honesty. If you notice my tag wasn't on the beat because the beat was never ever finished in my head like It wasn't done. It wasn't finished. So he did the beat it was a loop. He did his vocals Hast walked in house wasn't even meant to be in the session walked in and started freestyling something. They would like yo jump on that side cool, then they they bonded they were Vibes and knocked out the song and in my head, I've always said oh, yeah, I'm going to finish the be next week and next we know like you're mixing it down cause it's coming out tomorrow. I'm like Brody's not facial at night as fine as it is like literally and then it came out and I'd forgotten to put a tag on it and about that. They put the tag on the video. So people kind of clots. That was me, but all that and then I'd like a song All right, probably not going to be that big inning. He was any blood on it damn song fit tag. So on. I mean so seen Dave like play the chords right now the Kings like that. Is that is that inspire you or do you want to take it up like learning up like yes, this is I do every Wednesday and Friday from these guys are showing me up composers will come in here and play your shit. Ten times better. You like? No I'm taking lessons. Wow, that's deep. How important is it to put a tag on the track? Because some some produces the sounds over the top right some albums. It sounds over the tops and every the beginning of every track, but from your perspective, is it important like if you got to do it, I don't think I'd have a career if I didn't tag the music. I hate the tag. I still don't even like my own tag. I don't I think it's nonsense Puttin just Puttin your stamp all over someone's music. I don't like it. But truth is this producers are 10 times better than me that no one knows who they are because Rappers wouldn't credit a producer audience don't go out and Google who made this beats very rare. But like when you target they know when it's like RJ Metro Boomin made it so that I could get much I get much more welcoming much more recognition because I tracked the hostage songs this producers that for you 10 times bigger stronger than me and no one knows who they are. There's tracks haven't attacked. I didn't touch them out for I didn't tag fishermen on the house album just a fuse agent Dean has forgotten tag and like there's a lot of Pop stuff to say Coming out that's not tagged Sunday. We're going to mention to get the money back. And how do you feel about Spotify giving credit to producers if they did it earlier? I wouldn't have tagged any music like they're bloody laying it right now their credit in for Jesus don't think family maybe put this stamp all over these guys work and I didn't have to you know, like that's important. That's crazy and point because now it's there you can see it's like right-clicking it before like I had to tag it because no one knows and no one cares. It's like they only care when it's pushed in their face like a people sell your tags and make them like that. That type of shit don't gots it it's just because they've been hearing it so much and on popular songs. Who else do you want to work with you making history Jay Haas and you guys, you know, you're like you're like like, dr. Dre and Snoop your that duo the feet of each other and you know when you work together is Magic, but if you want project like, who would you like to work with you if he was doing it to a five album the first Village a five-album. I always say people unique voices and like not necessarily don't have to be the biggest I'd have to put One two big eyes on this it yeah, but you don't have to be the biggest people like, mr. Probst who can we have like these tones Maverick Sabre singer wise and then wrap away as characters or if you've got character like Haas who else I always say the cliche everyone everyone want Drake on foot before drink Sake I like zombie. My like what drink is fucking good? Let's be honest people like that. That's why I'm going on my project. I feel like if I did a project and I put everyone from the UK on it it be wake exactly whatever. Expect from me the black bow and using to do that first song featuring Jay Haas. That is mad be I think that's what happened for our project because I don't know how to go about it without it being so big. Who do you say is Drake's best track. Damn. It's got a lot of a minute. Yeah. It's wrong with Blair my nose and his best trip. I was banging it out for a while. You got any advice for anybody who can comment? I anybody that might have been in your position years ago who's coming through right. Now? What would you say to someone who's Producer the up-and-coming trying to find our way from it. It will get like as in pushed like keep one because it gets drained and not like especially like you have to do a 9 to 5, we have to do something. It's eat. Like I know a lot of producers that those producers are pretty my boys are producing before me that when I got 95 was like this is a joke, even when I was doing it like oh you're joking from like hey, what you doing that five as well as doing what you're doing like if you have to maintain it, but in terms of don't stop a lot of them. Stopped producing to go and do an answer five. Never never stop us - even if our fully and it's not popping out still be their music because it's like you never really know really know when you're gonna get a time. So I don't get disheartened easily and actually work and lay Steven. What does it matter about your choice of equipment know, what did you come you came through and through 2 Loops for like a start-up free Loops went on to logic quite early because I blaming blaming fruits for me not being able to get music sound with I didn't know that. I don't make stars. I was just blaming the software. So I went into logic still wasn't sounding amazing, but then I just stuck with logic and then I started realizing like you start learning things people just mix Engineers who would make sure song where was I didn't know that for you make it being such a sound banging. It's not the case and then you start learning to make sure self and all that stuff and starting now. If you're just a BeatMaker don't mind you can make beats on a laptop and headphones someone else is going to mix it. Anyway, so technically you don't need anything else if you want to go into mixing. Or making a tunes on the side where you need equipment as the new host happened sounded sick sick when we going to get it. I have no idea. I have no idea. I let the other that note a five-man fact you like thanks for letting us come to Studio giving us an insight into our works and you'll see you in the next up so fuck you very much. He has some exclusive inside right there from the man himself J5 shot. Some old. Kilo Joe the list of the Blackboard Famine, of course. Shout out to Jay Haas need to get him on one of these podcasts real soon. If you feeling that episode make sure you check out the other podcast with Dave sneakbo Bugsy Malone and Michael diaper follow who we be on the lookout for the next episode featuring The Landlord. Of Geeks, I'm DJ some sex and you can check me out on line DJ same sex and everything. I'm live on BBC Radio 1xtra every Friday night from 9:00 p.m.
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