Hi everyone and welcome back to the real real podcast with me and Natalie barbu. Today's episode is a fun one because it's the first time I've ever interviewed two people at once. So I am interviewing Siena Mirabella and Emily Duong and they are the host of The Young and ambitious podcast. So if you guys are looking for another podcast to listen to than I highly recommend their podcast young and ambitious they talk about productivity being just kind of like a girl boss and it's aPodcast to listen to if you guys are feeling unmotivated and looking to get motivated. I feel like that is such a great one. And if you guys are coming from their podcast, welcome to the real real podcast. I'm so excited to have you guys here because I actually just did an episode on their podcast. So if you guys want to check that out and you guys can totally do that, too. I loved this podcast episode because I interviewed two girls that are very different but yet so motivating and so incredible so Emily is a business owner. She has her own figure skating dress company. So she started out on eBay and created her own. I guess clothing brand really for figure skating, which I think is so cool. She graduated from college. She's getting a sales job. So she's working in like a corporate 8 to 5 job, which I think is really really cool. And now she has this podcast see it has been on YouTube since she was 12 years old, which is crazy. So she Grew up on YouTube She's a super successful YouTube channel, and now she also has a Blog and a podcast as well. And now she's actually also going back to school and she studying environmental science. These girls are not ordinary. They are really really really cool and just honestly so inspiring I think so. I'm so excited to have them on and to be talking about our best like productivity and motivating tips for you guys because you guys know that I love these types of episode and of course before we the podcast I'm going to do a review of the week and I actually didn't do a review of the week last time because I was doing a solo podcast and it was just structured a little differently. But if you guys enjoy the solo podcast let me know because I had a lot of fun recording it. So I really want to know if you guys liked the solo episodes if you guys like the content let me know on Instagram or you guys can join the private Facebook page and then on the private Facebook page you guys can let me know if you guys want more Soul episodes and what you want them on. But yeah, I feel like that feedback over always positive. So if you guys More definitely. Let me know and then the reviewer of the week this week is from a Haynes 12 and she says listening to Natalie's podcast is so refreshing. It's so nice to see an influencer really diving into real-world issues and including others in her interviews, never boring episode and I always looking forward to her pod. Thank you Natalie. Thank you so much a Haynes 12 for writing that review. I think it's so sweet. And honestly, I love that you guys are enjoying the interview style because I know I just I said look, if you guys want more solo podcast, let me know but this podcast is never not going to be interview style. Like maybe a few episodes here and there will be so low, but overall I really do want the focus to be bringing on other people and sharing their stories because honestly you guys know a lot about me from my YouTube from my website from my Instagram like enough about me. I need a platform to share other people's stories. So I'm really excited that you guys like that and let's jump into this episode. I ramble too much. I know that I've listened to your feedback I've made shorter. Was so let's just get into the podcast and I'll stop talking. about Hi Sienna, and Emily. Thank you so much for coming on my podcast. Hi. Thanks for having us. We're so excited. This is my first time doing one with more than one other person. So well, yeah, I normally just move you one other person. So this is my first time interviewing two people at once nice. So we're just going to start off with setting the record straight. So this is where I address any stereotypes and assumptions and you guys tell me if there True or false sounds good. The first one is coming up with podcast ideas is easy. Well, I'm going to focus on that. Okay, I kind of think I'm kind of in the middle. So I'm going to be a little more towards true. Okay go off. Yeah. Why do you think they're hard or easy? I guess both of you. Okay for me. I think they're I don't think they're that hard. I think it's false because you always want to make sure you're putting out new and fresh content. You don't want to be repetitive and like you don't want to obviously like copy someone else. So I feel like there's a lot of brainstorming that goes into it and I feel like that's the longest part. Of podcasting for me is trying to like figure out the episodes and write the outlines and that's my favorite part. So I don't know. Yeah. Yeah only I say it's it's so when I said true that means it's not hard right? I feel like it's not just because I like podcasting a lot. I think that's kind of my area of expertise. And then also when it comes to topics, I think there's just so much like to talk about and I think I also like depends on the specific. Person so if like there's a specific topic that you want to talk about I want to talk about I feel like it like you can speak on your personal experience in so many different levels. So to me, that's why it's kind of easy because it can come from a personal experience that no one else can like repeat if I make sense as far as maybe I changed my mind. That was good. No, that's actually really good. Especially with you guys having two people. I feel like you have to totally separate life experiences. So you can pull from each of those. Definitely. Yeah. And starting a bit podcast is similar to starting a business. I'm going to go true on that. Yeah, I hundred percent. Sure. I'd say yes. Yeah. No, I completely agree. I feel like it's this I mean maybe a different type of business differently definitely but it definitely still is like running your own business. Oh, especially yeah, especially once it starts growing and stuff. I feel like you still have to deal with advertisers. It's a post frequently editing producing it. I mean if you book people like if you have interviews or something, it's a schedule that No, I definitely think yeah, I think everything in this kind of creative field that we do basically is a business because you're putting together all the logistics. You're also, you know starring in it. You're editing it. I feel like the whole creative industry is very business model like so completely. Yeah and I just think in general when it comes to brainstorming the podcast itself and the preparation of getting it to launch and everything like Sienna and I really split the the work in the beginning when we were I mean we still do now but especially the beginning when I was doing all the logistics of finding the distributor and like the channels and all that stuff and I feel like it just takes a few months to prep if you want to like make sure you kind of launched a specific time. So just like a business it kind of goes by season. There's usually a better season to launch a depending on what kind of business it is. No totally and starting something with your friend can be difficult. I'm gonna go false on that ice, I think because you and I are so like-minded. That it's super it's super easy for us. But I think in a way it could be true depending on the person that you're starting a business with but I think if you find someone that's on your level and like works the same way as you it can be completely easy because free of me, it's it works perfectly. Yeah, I will say I think this is true just because in most circumstances I don't usually do most like a project or a business with a friend necessarily I think for me and my personality just and in general for a business to be successful. I I think that people have to be understanding of not to mix personal life with like the professional aspect of it. And I think we do a really good job of that just because especially when we started this I was still in college. I was finishing up my senior year and so a lot of my personal life was kind of there and then like this was just like we do podcast when you put creative work together, so I think we were able to keep it separate but if I were to say like just your true average like best girlfriends did it I think it can be difficult and sometimes could Your friendship depending on where it goes. So I think it does really depend on personality traits. No completely. I think that having a friend that can keep it professional when it needs to be professional is probably the most important thing because yeah, I have seen friendships that have been ruined by going into business together. So that's always something I've feared I guess. I mean, I've never started a business with a friend. But if I did that's something I would fear but I think it all depends on the person honey. Please don't definitely agree with that. 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So you never miss an episode of the real real podcast. And the podcasting industry is very similar to the YouTube industry. I guess this is more for Sienna. Let me think about this. I honestly think true on this because it's the same format of you know, creating and brainstorming content editing it uploading it and advertisers are kind of the same deal. So I feel like it's very similar in a way but I mean there's obvious differences, but I think it's if you do YouTube you catch on a podcast really easily because it's kind of meshes I think. Yeah, I totally agree it which one do you like better YouTube or podcasting? Oh my okay. So I love creativity and like no cinematography. So that's where that's where YouTube comes into my favorite, but I also love podcasting because I love looking ugly and like recording and just having fating what's right so but I might go YouTube pick. Yeah, you know, I was thinking you're definitely very fitting for YouTube. I mean, you know this. Yeah, I do YouTube little yet what I call for shits and giggles Giggles I've been saying this for so long like I just Vlog for fun, but I could never see myself just doing all that because I think speaking and like I said podcasting as your my expertise. Yeah. Sure. Fantastic. I'm more of like a creativity. Yeah. Yes. I know what you mean. Yeah. Well, that's why the podcast works for you guys because you guys have different strengths which is good. You can play off of each other. How about you? Which one do you like better? I think podcasting right now is more new so A little more fun for me because I've been doing YouTube for so many years. So right now podcasting it's like an exciting new thing and yeah YouTube can get lonely. So I like that in my style podcast. I interview someone else so like you guys have each other so that's nice. It's not like a lonely thing. Yeah, and you can bring on other people. But so I think I've enjoyed podcasting more this season, but after I start getting more used to it and stuff, I'm not sure because I still love you too. To buy like really really really love it. But right now I think podcasting is just newer it's fun and new. I love it. Yeah, so now tell us a little bit about yourselves like what you're meant to school what you studied where you're from what you guys do. Just give the audience a little bit about you. Okay, cool. So, I'll kick it off. I guess. My name is Emily Duong. I just graduated from Chapman University in May of 2019. I studied. Asian and business and I really had or I really chose those Majors because it not only do I feel like it was really aligned with my interest but I had a business background since high school. I grew up as a competitive figure skater and from that I decided I wanted to design my own dresses and later on turned it into my own business starting on eBay and then later on building my own e-commerce website and then now having store Partners throughout the u.s. So that's kind of where I'm at in terms of my career. Here after I graduated I decided to really hone down and focus on scaling my business Elite skate where and then of course doing this podcast, which I thoroughly enjoy and I'm planning to definitely give a 2/5 a try just because I think it's a really worthy experience to have after graduating and and with my degree, so I'm highly interested in going into sales which I am officially going into I recently got a job offer. So amazing, so that's it. Adding so I definitely have a very entrepreneurial personality. I've always loved being in business and just being able to utilize that aspect of myself. So that's kind of where I'm at. Nice. You have the best pitch for yourself. I'm always like damn I got to like step it up. But basically I'm Sienna Marabella I am my claim to fame is YouTube. I started that when I was I want to say 12. I was an inexperienced ugly little child little tween and I have so young. I can't believe you were just well. Hello Venus was like oh, yeah, I can definitely do this. I know nothing about it, but it kind of took off from there. And that was my kind of segue into creative into the creative field which made me realize that I definitely don't want to work for someone which is why I love that. We started me and Emily started this podcast. I recently launched a Blog and but I am going to go actually back to school. I didn't go to college fresh out of high school, but I did enroll now, so I'm going to get my invite. Mental science degree, which amazing? I'm so excited for that. Yeah. No, that's so cool. What made you want to do environmental science because it's so different from YouTube, you know, so and so actually I have so many varied interests and I originally wanted to do criminal law or criminal justice because I wanted to be an FBI agent then I thought okay realistically, I love the creative field that might not be the move. So I love science. So I thought you know. Iron, mental science is a good Universal background or background degree to have because it's so important in today's day with you know, climate change and all of that stuff. So I thought that that would be a good backup degree to have and I would also be really interested in working in that field. Should I not be doing YouTube anymore if you know what I mean? Yeah, that's so smart. That's also really cool that I mean environmental science. Also, I feel like is only Rising right now and yeah in terms of like the job market and I guess awareness of it, too. Like nowadays more people know exactly what it is and I guarantee there's probably so many jobs opening. All right. Yeah. So how did you two meet you go because I reached out to me. Okay, so just like to kind of like set the tone of like the story. I'm really the type of person that is not afraid to like reach out to people as Sienna really knows like I'd say a great example is on the type of person like if I see a guy I'm interested in at the bar. I'll go up and like speak to him, right? So I kind of same thing when like I was going through a phase in college and I was trying to get out of my comfort zone and not just have my classic College friends sorority friends things like that. And I think I was following you for a bit and I was like and I started to see a lot of like like-mindedness like the books that we read and just like you love being an OC to so I decided to reach out saying hey, let's grab coffee. I kind of want to like, you know, I feel like pick your brain. Yeah. This is our between. Yeah, and so it was actually just about a year ago. Literally it was like last copper worry. Yeah, and we decide to meet up for coffee and we just chat and it was a really funny because CN I just came back from Portland. Yeah from your solo trip at the time and I was leaving for Portland on my first solo trip that same week. Yeah, and so it was kind of like ironic timing but we basically just kind of met through Instagram. I reached out and said hey like I'd love to chat. Like I feel like we have a lot in common. Let's meet up and that's kind of where it started. Yeah, and I'm normally not the type of person to like respond to that because I'm always is like oh like is this like a creepy thing? Yeah, and I don't know but then I checked out your Instagram and I was like this bitch looks so on my vibe like my mindset. So I'm so glad that I like connected with her and then I think like two months after our friendship early yell at start a podcast. Yeah because we're super like-minded. Yeah. It was pretty cool. And I think to be honest, I don't think you respond to my first message. I had not I don't think I actually commented on your post like and I was like, hey I sent you a damn and you're like, oh send it again. So it was really funny. Sometimes you gotta what's it? Like for sure. Yeah, go after I feel like that's a very common. Yes Light Beam under my personality. Like I don't have anything Thats So Cool wait, so you guys had only known each other two months before starting the podcast. Yeah based. Yeah from like lasso like two three months. Yeah. I didn't like January like, you know, we're like minded. Let's start a podcast. Yeah. That is so cool. And I love how you just reached out and DM her because I feel like so many people are too scared to do that because they think I go there's not going to respond but I mean That's the worst that can happen is that they don't respond like yeah, there's pleasure I would be outside like yeah, don't get a response like I owe a long as the type to like shoot my shot. Anyways. Yeah, I get no response in whatever so and I think like to a big important understanding of that is just like where the intention is like for me. I was at a point in life where I was really just trying to expand my network and just like I've really live by the quote you sir, you are the average of The Five People You surround yourself with most so I was really just trying to improve that core. I have in a sense and like I've always talked about I'm always just very adamant about just adding people with similar values similar viewpoints and similar life visions. And so that's kind of where I was going about it when I reached out to Siena nice love it. No, that's awesome. Especially because I do feel like our age like in our early 20s. A lot of our friends are still either from high school or they're so from college and there's nothing wrong with that at all. Like I still have so many friends from high school and college, but sometimes you're just friends with them out of convenience. And you don't you realize that you don't have much in common anymore. So I feel like now's the stage where we're kind of all having not identity crisis, but just like, okay, who are we who do we want to be? What's what can we change in our lives? And I think that's like such a good thing to recognize. Yeah, I couldn't agree more with that same and now I have a question for Emily. So how old were you when you started your business? I think it's so cool what you do and how you found a market for that. So how old were you You first started. Yeah. Yeah, thank you. I was 16. I think maybe turning 17 at that point. And yeah, like I mentioned earlier I just always kind of had a like a Keen Eye For Business and Entrepreneurship and I think at the time when I started to realize people really like my designs like I wore my own designs at my competitions and people would ask me. Oh, where'd you get it and I always never really knew what to say to just tell them like I did it myself, you know what I mean? Because it looked it. Looked to you know, I mean it wasn't like handmade. I mean I had like a manufacture do it but like I can't put the vision together and so once I started to see a common theme of Interest that's when I told my mom like hey, you know, I think I want to try to like put a few designs together and like make an eBay store out of it. And then later on I just kept expanding and that's where it is today. That's the definition of girlboss. Literally that's awful. And what was it like running that along with being a student I guess. Raven in high school at the time you started it so high school to college and now this podcast like how is it balancing at all? Yeah, honestly, I think having a business during from such a young age has allowed me to really understand time management. I think especially in high school. I kept it definitely quiet from my friends and just from people. I know I mean my some of my teachers knew but it was something that I really manage on my own time. I mean after school in the evening that kind of thing. NG and then as I went into college it at first I will admit like my freshman year. I kind of got caught up in the college experience I'd say but later on sophomore and junior year was when I started to build my own website and really like expanded to real e-commerce and I think I just really learned how to balance school and the business because I saw it as a really good opportunity for myself to to like really just set myself up for Just kind of selection after graduation in terms of do I want to do this business full-time or do I want to do something else part-time and my business full time that kind of thing. So I think I just really made my own time for it and I did sacrifice a little bit of you know, the social life or maybe a little bit of those like Friday nights out. Whereas I was staying home brainstorming or putting new designs together things like that. So it is a sacrifice but aside from that I think the overall theme is just time management. No, yeah, I completely agree. I feel like also since you started so young it kind of grew up with you like you didn't know any differently, you know, because you were so young when you started so I think that's actually really cool kind of work to your advantage. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. And I think just to add on to that. I think the big thing I always advise to younger girls to is to definitely try to like work on whatever project is that they have interest in at a younger age, especially in college because I consider that like the free time where you don't To worry about getting a full time job yet and I think you just have so much time in college to test the waters with a business idea or with whatever it is that they want to do so that by the time they graduate they have a better opportunity to pick versus like the other way around like the job picking them about make sense. I completely agree with you and also you have resources at school like at a university which can help you a lot exactly and for Sienna. So how you been on YouTube for years now since You were 12. So what have you noticed? The biggest shift has been since you started from when you were 12 years old to now on YouTube. Okay. So how old am I now 22 almost home going to be 121. I'm like no like I feel like but I feel like gift from YouTube like you have to be able to adapt to the changes because YouTube is constantly there's new things that are trending. So I think that in order to stay afloat, you need to be able to adapt or die. As they say and so I just started when I was 12 like it with a passion for just film and stuff. And I think it's allowed me to kind of delve deeper into the film aspect of it, which is something that I'm so in love with so like I found out about editing and like I just was able to learn so much throughout that career and I think it gives you so many different opportunity paths like the podcast you could start a store and I just think that YouTube is like the perfect career for me. I Of it so much. No, I agree with you. I love you, too, but I love the platform that gives and just interacting with an audience and back living YouTube. Yeah, YouTube is constantly changing social media in general is constantly changing. So that's one thing you have to adapt always because if not, you're just going to fall behind. Exactly and you also have a Blog and now a podcast. So are you always looking I guess to expand your brand or is that intentional or is it just you want to start something? So you kind of just start it? Do you think about like your personal brand? I always am looking for ways to expand my brand because I think that the biggest thing that you should do if you're in the creative field is diversify. So I want to expand my brand of different platforms and I've always loved writing. So that's why I went for the blog and podcast as for the podcast. I love sharing like self-help and wellness tips. So I thought that that was another way to kind of give out more information to people and give different sides because you duke. Obviously be very like one subject and so having multiple platforms gives me opportunities to share more of my opinions on a spectrum of things if you know what I mean? Yeah, no completely and also I think it's important that you mention how you like writing. So he started a Blog you like sharing advice and tips. I started a podcast. I feel like it's important to find the platform that works for you like some people just want to diversify and they go into literally everything that there is out there, but they're not doing them well because they don't even enjoy Yeah, so I think that's like really important for people's expanding is so smart, but only do it if you actually enjoy what you're expanding into. Yeah, I always believe in having a Passion or a wife or something because on the days that you're you know lazy or you just don't feel like doing anything you're not going to be motivated to continue to push through because you don't have that passion for it since you're just doing it for maybe like money or just you want to diversify for the sake of diversifying. So I think that having a Passion behind it is the Were one thing. Yeah, I completely agree. And essentially you guys did go into a business together. Like you said podcasting is a business. So is this something that you guys have always wanted to do like both of you individually wanting to start a podcast or it just kind of happened when you met each other I think both of us have had the idea of a podcast for so long and for me, I'm a heavy procrastinator. So if it weren't for Emily coming to me and being like yo, let's do a podcast. Wouldn't have held myself accountable. So I feel like we came together at the perfect time for that. Hmm, and I will say to I honestly talked about like in my own head. I wrote it down. I think since like end of 2017. I wanted to do a podcast for a long time mainly because like I said earlier I think speaking is kind of like a field. I want to go into like being a good keynote speaker and and that kind of thing and podcasting is is very aligned to that. So to me, I always wanted to it was just about Out finding the right time and I guess right opportunity to which I guess and door opens. Yeah, so it worked out he will ya know that worked out perfectly for you guys. And when did you guys get the idea to start young and ambitious? Like how did you guys hang out one day just talk about it and start or I guess because Emily did you roll it more into motion or how is like that initial beginning? Yeah. I felt like this was I'm not gonna lie. It was at Urth Cafe in Laguna when yeah, that's what I'm talking about. So I remember just sitting there and like I had in the back of my mind for a long time and I remember discover we were eating and I just popped idea to see and I was like Hey, like do you ever think about doing a podcast? And I think that's when we kind of started to really talk about it and I told her you know, how we both come from a different angle. I'd say from our point of perspective but like, you know, we both have a very I'd say like just we've done a lot on our own terms of her experience with Dave and YouTube and for me and business and I found that we were a good Niche and a good match to work together. And so I kind of threw it out there it was over lunch. And then from there it kind of we're heavy planners. So as soon as we have that lunch we put in our Google Calendar as we like scheduled weekly meetings. And so we're very organized. So as soon as the idea came to you know the table at Earth we decided to just throw together a weekly meetings and I think it took us about a month before we launched. It was it a month ago. We launched it enables. So I mean couple months. Yeah, it took us a month to kind of get the whole idea down on paper and really like the name and the whole team of it. But I think we definitely did pre-record a few episodes prior to launching. So we just we had the idea of when we're launching within a month. Yeah. Yeah. I love asking people like when did that idea spark? Like do you remember the exact moment? So I think that's really cool. And how did you guys come up with the name? Well, we actually sat on that for so long because we wanted something pertaining to like a girl boss, but that's a bit overdone. So we just thought I think it was funny. I think what happened was I was describing the type of girl that would be listening and I was like, you know, like they're going to be young and ambitious and then something like weight and then like, yeah, I was like two seconds later. I was like, wait, what do you think about young and ambitious? Is that too overdone and we liked yeah, and so we kind of played around with it and kind of like toyed with the name and caught Outside perspective and I think we just ended up it just if it uh, so yeah, I love the name of it. And I love your cover art to so clean font is great. Thank you have font. So like that was a big thing. What are the challenges that you guys have for going into a podcast together? Have you experienced any difficulties or challenges? I feel like if any challenges come about I think it's just about least for two people. I think sometimes it can be about timing being able to really coordinate with both of our busy schedules. And so I mean, especially at the time when we started I was still finishing up my last semester of college. So teen Friday and I was 118 credits. So I'm again that time management was always something I was really and I am really good at so I think that worked out but just I think of anything the challenging part of starting a podcast can be Speed just getting your foot in the door and really just like going out at it because I think an easy like I think had we not both push ourselves to just really be like we stuck to that date April date. We're like, okay, it's happening and we almost didn't I was like no we're doing now we have to just let's push through. Yeah, so I think sometimes like it's just when you have your eye on the ball, but then you've lose sight of it. I think that can be the challenge but I think coming back to your vision is to kind of overcome that obstacle. Yeah, and I think the communication is is the biggest thing and working with someone else because we're very both of us are really blunt. So we're able to tell each other. Yeah. Oh I hate that idea or this is brilliant. And so I feel like we work well together and I think the big thing you need to have with a partner in this kind of a field is communication and having you know, Emily is my podcast co-host is accountability. And so we stick to deadlines because you know, we have someone else waiting like I have Emily on like waiting on this state to do this. So like you can't slip behind so I think To really I mean, I don't think that's a challenge. I think that's a benefit but it's just you hold me very accountable and I love that. Yeah. Yeah. I know. I feel like I was just thinking in my head like all of these things are challenges, but they can also be benefits to because then you have that person to motivate you you have that person to keep you accountable so it can be hard at first but in the long run, I think it's actually like really beneficial. Yeah, definitely and what are tips that you have for being productive and juggling multiple responsibilities because I feel like both of you guys do that. So well, thank you. Oh my God, I'm flattered. Okay, my biggest thing is time blocking and your Google calendar because without that I would die. But basically what I like to do is at the beginning or no Fridays, I like to just take my top priority. So I have like my my work and just all of my top five priorities I think and I plug them into my calendar right away and then within you can see within your calendar when you have that white free space and that And I put in like extra projects. I want to work on errands. And so I think that time management is really about just having a good system. And if you treat every thing in your Google calendar like an appointment, you're going to be a lot better prepared to you know, stick to the ball. Yeah. No, I'm not super good. I think for me when it comes to maintaining productivity and just being able to keep it consistent each day. I have just really hone down on consistency. So for Example I always feel extra productive when I do fit a workout and and I do prioritize that in the morning. So I consistently it's just like going to class like it's consistent, you know, you have class on Monday Wednesday Friday. So you just go you don't think about it anymore. And so for me, I have trained my way of thinking and my approach to really not have to think about doing things that are a priority and so that's how I've maintained productivity over time with my top priorities. And then also just the general day whether it's work or whether I'm like Going to a store for like my business work things like that. I think that's just consistency for me. It's like the biggest theme. Yeah, I could not agree more with both of you because I am one of those people that I have a morning routine. I have to stick to it. That's like my only constant throughout the day. So working out is a consistency for me. And if I don't it's kind of like my whole day is a little thrown off. So I yeah, no I completely agree with that. But like I use my Google Calendar like for everything I using it for getting ready in the morning like the night before I'll plan out my entire day and yet you treat each time as an appointment, which I think is so important and my actually last week's episode for me for my podcast. I did a solo episode and it was talking about productivity and like my biggest tip is just creating a system where it is in your calendar, like whether it's on paper, whether it's Google Calendar or whatever it is. You just need a system to like write everything down to because that can also keep you accountable and I listen to that episode and I loved it. I listen to it I think yesterday. I say yeah. Oh, thanks for activities. I'm like hell yeah, she did a solo episode about productivity on there. Yes. Thank you. Yeah, that's like my biggest tip is for everyone needs Google Calendar and what are some tips that you guys have for someone who wants to start a podcast? So let's say they don't necessarily have I guess a YouTube channel already and they just want their podcasting the main platform. What tips do you guys have I would say that you really really want it in like you want it in find your what is the word Niche Niche? I can't even pronounce that but you want I never know how to pronounce that I can never pronounce it but you want to find what you're passionate about that. You can see yourself talking about in the long term like because I think that you don't go into a project thinking um do this for six months. It's a long-term thing. So you have to know what you're passionate about and along with that is the only real thing that you need. That's a quality investment is a Your phone so I think it's not too expensive for people to get started. But I think that the quality is one of the most important things if you want to set yourself apart, so getting that microphone is like top first thing I recommend I think for for me from my perspective, I think it's really important to to try to build an audience outside of the podcast already. So whatever Niche it is that you do have try to be so like even if it's not YouTube I obviously didn't I have a YouTube platform, but But like my Instagram platform and other like my blog as well, I've always talked about business and I've always talked about mindset and essentially self-help. So that was already a common theme in what I what people already knew me for and so when it came to the podcast like that already resonated in a line with them, so I think that's huge to have a topic that people can resonate with you and see you as already and and also just something that's valuable and not just what everyone is talking about. I think everyone has Their own personal experience like I spoke about earlier that they can bring to the table that no one can repeat or talk about. So even for me just how my business it was about figure skating and designing and have did it since high school. I think that was a different experience that I want to utilize to help younger girls not sell their self like sell themselves short in trying to do something like that for themselves. I also think going along with that though building your brand is good. So if you want to start a podcast like you said you didn't have a YouTube. But you had the Instagram and the blog. I think that just getting yourself out there on social media so that people can find you kind of on any platform is a really good way to like kind of yeah boost your podcast and help it go farther. Oh a hundred percent. I think that's huge. I think having an Instagram having a Twitter whatever it is that works for you. You don't you might not need to have them all but just having something else to diversify into also cross-promote because if someone wants you on Instagram, then they can find your podcast. If someone finds your podcast and they can find your Instagram, so I definitely think that that's a huge thing and also podcasting. I don't know about you guys, but for me, I don't understand really like that algorithm behind it. Like I don't I don't yeah. I'm I do not know how people find new podcast besides word-of-mouth on like other platforms same I only get my podcast recommendations from Emily and like other people that I see because I have no idea how to search for podcast. So yeah, it's hard. I feel like that's one thing. That Apple podcast or Spotify should do better at it's like yeah moaning suggested ones because I know that each show has like suggested or similar podcast, but it's very few. Like there's not a lot of them. So I feel like it should kind of become more like a YouTube where you get recommended Lee episodes or things like that. I feel like that's one thing and the next few years. They should work on yeah, you should send a letter to Apple podcast because that sounds good. I should yeah. You should let them know get a contact. Apple yeah, because it's hard to find other podcasts. Like I feel like if I didn't have my social media platforms and be hard to get the word out for exactly. Yeah, and that's not to discourage anyone from starting a podcast. I know it sounds like it but it's just to encourage you to cross-promote cross-promote is the best thing you could do. Yeah, and what are both of you are best pieces of advice ever given does not have to be about business or podcasting just in life. I always like asking my guess this question. This piece. Okay, I gotta think about this. Um, I feel like my general biggest advice to anyone especially Our Generation and the younger females I'd say if there's something you want in life just go after it and like go after it with conviction. I feel like that's a big theme I've always done honestly even with people as well. Like I said earlier, that's how I met Siena. I reached out to her and I took initiative and I think the narrative Or females as we're growing into the new year and as the culture and Society is changing. I think females are being more empowered to go after what they want and be the CEO of the company and Etc. So that's for me a it's a great position to be in as well. And I think it's great to continue to utilize that platform and to continue to build on it and whatever it is that you want in life, whether it's even if it's a guy even if it's like meeting a new friend or whatever it is. Just go after it and don't Take no for an answer because that's how a lot of my opportunities came about. I didn't wait for the opportunity. I created it myself. So that is minus NC. I want to go along with that and I think that my biggest thing is it sounds pretty annoying but be selfish in life because you're only here for one Lifetime and if you're doing things to make other people happy, you're just going to drain your own energy. And so I think saying yes to more opportunities that maybe scare you or like risks that you think might turn out bad like just go for any other. Opportunity you can that will you know benefit you you always create memories. So I'm always a big believer in like saying yes to things and like that was all over the fucking map. But like I don't know what I was going for with that but I guess that's what I went know. I love both of those those are so true because I mean I am a huge believer in making the opportunities that you want creating and going after them and also it is when it comes down to it it is being a little selfish because you might not have time for other people as much. CH, you might be focusing more on yourself, then you would putting energy into something else, you know, so I definitely think that being selfish and just going after what you want is definitely a good advice especially for girls in their 20s or in their late teens or teens, you know, just be making that opportunity for yourself and making it happen and just to quickly add on to that too. I think just like you mentioned like being selfish about it the way I see it too is I don't want to look back five or 10 years from now and With regret and wish I had, you know, Donna are put more, you know effort into it. So I think that's something I lived with for a lot of my like looking back now. I knew I could have tried harder in my figure skating career. I could have been competing for Team USA internationally and I knew that I gave that up because I definitely didn't sacrifice as much as my competitors did and so now where I am at now in terms of business and where I'm setting myself up for five years from now, that's kind of how I look at it and I take a lot from Gary. Banner truck for example, he talks a lot about just not looking back with regret because for example, I don't necessarily like I could take a risk and just go full in all my business or I mean I already am but for example does not take on like a full-time job yet and what he says about that which I agree with is, you know, my degree is always there like if shit hits the fan as they say like then I can always have my degree to fall back on so that I would never lose that so I think that's something I take to heart as well as when I'm 30. I don't want to look back. Be like, wow. I wish I tried harder when I was 22 23 24. And so I think that's a big thing I live with as well. Yeah. I love that. I feel like so many times. It's just getting over the mindset hump like getting over. Oh, no, I'm too scared. I don't have enough skill to do this. I'm scared of what other people are going to think of me other people are going to make fun of me or I don't know if I'll succeed in this, you know, I feel like that mindset block is honestly the biggest thing some time as yeah, I think You have to just live by fear if it scares you I think it would yeah completely. I love that advice. Well, thank you guys both so much for being on my podcast. I have loved this conversation. I feel like it was so motivating and you guys both have a podcast together obviously. So anything you guys want to plug your shoutout? Okay. So let me do me first. We have a lot of social medias. Okay. So for like I had to go find me on Instagram at Siena. Our Mirabella and then YouTube you just pop in Siena Marabella and you'll you'll find it. But that's me. Yeah, and for me, I'm just on Instagram at Emily heed Wang dong is spelled EU Ong and then our young and ambitious podcast. That's the podcast and then our Instagram is just at Young dot ambitious dot podcast, which is also official. It's in our bios as well. Yeah, it's good our personal accounts. You'll find it somewhere amazing. I'm also going to have everything in the show notes. So you guys can just easily. Click on it and go there, but thank you it Sienna and Emily so much for being on the podcast. It's been so much fun having you. Thank you so much for having us come chatting with you. And also I have an episode on your podcast. I forgot to mention that so I know you're listening. How is go listen to our episode that is it for the podcast. Let me know if you guys enjoyed this episode. I had so much fun recording it Sienna and Emily are two amazing girls and you guys need to listen to the young and ambitious podcast you Can find it on Apple podcast Spotify wherever and also be sure to tell me if you guys came from there. So whether you're doing the private Facebook page the Instagram anything of the real real podcast and let me know if you guys came from their episode. But yeah, if you guys are listening to this episode on Monday my episode is going up on Tuesday on The Young and ambitious podcast. So be sure to listen to that tomorrow if you guys are listening to this Monday if you guys are listening to those past Monday, then you're good. Just search it. Thank you guys again so much for listening. Ting be sure to follow them and all of that stuff and I can't wait until next week with another episode of the real real podcast.
In today's episode of The Real Reel Podcast, I interview Siena Mirabella and Emily Duong from the Young and Ambitious podcast. They are two best friends who went into business together by starting a podcast. Each motivating and inspiring in their own right, this episode is filled with motivating tips on how to start a podcast, a business, and be successful along the way. Siena is a YouTube with over 1 million subscribers and has been on the platform since she was 12 years old. She also has expanded into her own blog and the podcast. Emily is a recent college grad and business owner. She started her business of create figure skating dresses in high school and now has expanded to a podcast. Listen to hear how these girl bosses manage it all and how they succeed at everything. Natalie's IG: @nataliebarbu IG: @therealreelpodcast Join the private Facebook Group Show Notes: https://www.therealreelpodcast.com Become a supporter: https://anchor.fm/natalie-barbu/support  ---   Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/natalie-barbu/support 