Before I continue one of the ways, we keep all of our content for you. The listener free of charge is our amazing sponsors, and today anchor is one of those sponsors. If you haven't heard about anchor it's the easiest way to make a podcast. Let me explain it's free. There's creation tools that allow you to record and edit your podcast right from your phone or computer anchors going to distributor podcast for you. So it can be heard on Spotify Apple podcasts and everywhere podcasts are listened to and you can even make money from your podcast with no minimum listenership. It's everything you need to make a podcast in one place download the free anchor app or go to Anchor Dot f m-- to get started. It's the reunions for war the world's a challenge and we're hitting all of those hard topics. Like if it's okay to make a dating profile for a nap when you're in a relationship if you should date somebody for followers and Kyle cut his hair stay with us just a second. You're tuned in to AfterBuzz TV the ESPN of TB top now. Look there's a jam. There it is, huh? Jonah is that yeah, I'm that good old stock music jam. Yeah. What's up everybody? Welcome and it's a challenge on AfterBuzz TV. We got War of the Worlds were Union. We are covering tonight MTV decided to pack two hours of a were Union into what episode instead of separating them in two weeks, which we found out today. So that was fun that we had to crash watch this thing. So we got two hours of drama and Much everywhere that we're going to try to condense into this show for you guys tonight. So bear with us, we're going to pack everything we can like Cam and Leroy came in Davon and this letter with Theo tape gate a lot of more information and facts about this and what they've all had to say about that zakah Bumble just because it's just how you get a kick out of her your relationship. Just add a little Flair funny Baron, Georgia Polly trying to grow his followers by dating car. We got a lot to get into so mine. Name is Jenna bussiere. Thanks for joining us. We got our full panel. Dan lingered is here. Hi. Everybody does need an in the house today. Daddy. Dan is here Pamela gross Jill's with us. Hey girl, super excited to get into this. There was so much drama and I'm here for Cam's got a lot to say she's already like I'm like itching right now. She just wants to just let it all out and David Christopher's here sweetie. That's me. You just love this drama stuff apart. Love it. I'm David could not be more obsessed with this episode. He hates me hates anything. I was on the couch. I will say we'll get it to our overall thoughts quickly, but I will say at one point. It was so hard to just listen into the drama and everybody yelling at each other because they were constantly yelling over each other that I was hurting my ears and then I would say thinking just let them finish let them talk and then you talk and I was like, oh is that what people are talking about when they comment on our show and they say that we always talk over each other only get a Joanie do that to us all the time not make sense. I totally get it. I'm sorry that we always hear your eardrums. What are you talking about Jen? Because he always does he always have hot takes over so excitable. Let's do it. Alright, so let's get it but overall thoughts quickly quickly. If you look to Leroy's left there was a stool and Shilling was sitting in the dark a little bit. There you go Shadow shaming my I really did love this and there is so much to say my major hot. Take over all observations for me. My takeaways were I have some complete flip Box in that usual favorite Davon turned into a thumbs down for me a usual hater more than anything made sense and turned into a thumbs up for me. And that is Amanda tonight. I am not saying I like her. I'm not saying I don't think she's an awful person. But she made sense. At least whereas some people were just yammering and saying things that didn't add up. I cannot wait to hear about your new found life. but that's not that's not Amanda, but What she was saying her responses her receipts if you will checked out to me they made sense and I'm calling a spade a spade. I said, yes, exactly telling it like it is and a lot of people on reality TV are like I tell it like it is and it's like no you're just obnoxious. She was actually sort of responding and telling it like it is. Okay, like it and David this is not the episode for you and I felt I still felt she was still obnoxious. In fact, I felt like this whole episode is kind of obnoxious. I feel like I was watching Maury or Jerry or something like they could have just a little We cut this down to like 30 minutes or just because I like all the drama that kept getting bring up because sorry I'm a little sick tonight. So my grandpa wears off. Trauma that kept getting brought up one after another. It's like I almost forgot about it. And then when they would introduce it, yes, I'm so excited to hear about this. Yes. I forgot about this act Bumble stuff up because tell me about it. So there are moments of real like, okay, but overall, I mean honestly like I checked out a few times and then I was like, oh, yeah, I like turbo. Yeah. Yeah by the way didn't really talk tonight. He won the whole damn thing, right? So there you go. Just a really quick a thing. The MS is an awesome post. So good at what he does and Lolo Jones was a plant. She was Furniture. She was yeah not there. It was. I think you guys are being way too hard on yellow. I do. I know that she she stirred the pot a lot on her own time and the challenge. I don't know if I can necessary necessarily say I'm a fan of her I think that she's hot-headed. She has a bad temper on the show, but she did great tonight I5 suppose tributed 0 she read some questions off of corn dude, but that's what she was there for. I mean, I thought you she'll personality. She was laughing. She thought somebody I forget. So were we and we weren't being paid to be an extra host? I can't I can't believe you're standing at first. She was awful. I didn't bother me. I'm not sitting here thinking like Lola was awful. Why was she there like, oh they add another home to do like cool like it was fine. It should be like am isn't like she was awful. We're gonna compare she clearly the MS contributes. He knows the people he clearly watched the season and can expand on things. She didn't bother me, but she didn't bring anything to the table either, okay. Let's we got so much to do. Yeah - hop into the first topic that okay. So we have a little bit of Camp to start kill a queen cam at the top. So we hear about the Cayman Leroy situation and we come to find out that they were friends that was never a true label on it. They never got exclusive. They never said you're my boyfriend. You're my girlfriend, but there obviously was strong feelings there which we grasp that sense at least but now we see that camp did go to visit Leroy and Vegas and was staying with Leroy when she also Also, it appears went out with another guy or hooked up with another guy so that Leroy then kicked her out his place where she was staying. I mean to me that story sounds innocent enough. I first for the record. I love Cam and I love Leroy. So it sounds like there's a big miscommunication there something it doesn't it doesn't make any sense to me that she went out with a friend and he thought she was cheating and kicked her out and that was the biggest and they all their they that cause such a riff I There's some more to the story that we don't know overall though. I really like both of them. I don't know. That one doesn't make for the official boyfriend girlfriend own only rightly right get over it. Yeah. What is it? Have ya here on here's the thing. I'm going to put a spin on that. I mean, I really have no clue what really actually happened. I agree with you Pam. There's got to be something more to it. Yeah, I like them both, but I will say them aside just in general if a girl is coming to visit me and stay with me in my place. And then she takes off with some other dude. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you're not going to stay with me no more, but that's not cool disappointed with his edit because they're making it look like he freaked out and he has there's no warrant to his emotions against Cam and he's in the wrong. I mean I think it's a completely disrespectful move because it's not like cam happen to be in Vegas staying with other friends and hooked up with Leroy one night was in his bed one night and then went out and they found another guy separate night you flew out there. I believe she's from Jersey you flew out there to visit Leroy with the intention of visiting him and staying with him regardless of whether or not you guys are boyfriend and girlfriend. It's still just that's a ballsy move. She's can look ham for reason sounds insensitive. It sounds like she wasn't thinking going and it seems like she's a little prideful instead of apologizing she sang what we weren't together, you know, we weren't together again back to the I don't wanna spend too much time on this Leroy did declare. I don't do relationships her. So that was her way of proving something. I don't know. I like them both shrews my eyes. There's so much more layers, but that's the same thing as I love them both. Yeah, it's hard. Yeah, they're both right. They're both wrong and Leroy you really regret sleeping with Cam. She's really hot. You don't work great on my man. Like you might be mad at her that's not her. She's beautiful. But anyway, I think both of them clearly just need to move on because they're graceful and if Leroy was never going to make her exclusive and it's almost like he shot himself in the foot in the long run and now we're going to end up having feelings for her, but you don't know that sometimes though. I know but that's my point is if you and that stupid I wind up as team. Cam Roy still I like the both naught T. Naught Gamma or cat. Yeah. I'm right for the they both Sam. Anyway, they're both valid. Let's jump into that. Then this kamdev on Theo love triangle kind of Of soap a me did a really good job of talking about the situation before so I'll pass it over to you. Okay. So at the time that this all went down I did listen to Dave ons live. I did, you know, I was sort of following the story as which for those of you out there. There was a cam and Leroy as we saw in the show hooked up and Devon was apparently heard about it. So my interpretation of what Cam said was that in the beginning Davon say Hey, like anyone Cam said no, I'm not I'm not here to sort of get into guys and then her and Theo developed feelings for each other and Devon was hurt and cam expressed that she should have been more upfront with her that she was developing feelings for her, but she didn't like her that was my interpretation of IT team cam. I think according to Dave on and again, it was a while ago. She also at the same time saying she thought he was cute was saying she wasn't going to get going to get serious. Or get physical with anyone during the challenge and she was like happy to sort of have a flirty friendship, but it was never going to go anywhere. Anyway, I think listen they're all single Cameron Cameron Theo started feeling each other. It is what it is. I don't think it was the big betrayal. It's not like her and right on our best friends and they both loved him. You know, it's like you both just met this guy and be a little bit dramatic but to play Devil's Advocate don't you think it could be hurtful to be in day Vaughn's shoe. Who's and that is your number girl that you're that is like her best friend in the house and you went up to her first. And you said I am kind of feeling this guy. I liked him and then you watch this new relationship unfold in front of your eyes and it always sucks to be the outcast that you said you had feelings for this guy and then your friend gets the guy so I can understand why David gets hurt as well. Great iron. It lands on you feel stupid. This is so silly to feel stupid. I find girls track of all the time and then the oh, I like to fuck shit. I'd like to kick it out of here back to the summer. It's a pressure cooker things. Yes, Jenna. I agree with you that I'm sure Dave on felt a little humiliated and it would have been cooler had she not been the last to know or to see it the same way other people did but at the end of the day, but anyone know this was a thing though when we did with season was filming like we didn't know like oh Dave on like the already brought it up at the end. So just show that she's humiliated like she spoke to her and she spoke about it and her YouTube channel. Yeah. Well, you know, you know what Pam? Why don't I mean again, I don't care don't care. Not a big deal. I get what you're saying, but I don't think him did anything wrong, right? That's I'm not saying that wrong or right. It's just about seeing both sides of it and I can kind of see both sides. Yeah. It's just a sticky situation overall because if your cam what I mean, what are you girl girl code Girl Code what happened this girl code, but it's like if your cam are you wrong? You're single you're now into him. Is it disrespectful to do to your friend when she said she liked him but but they've all made it clear that she wasn't going to pursue anything anyway, right? Yeah have been handled better. But at the end of the day, it seems like those three day Von Cam and Theo have squash the beef. So if they're not I like the guy, you know, I'm fine. I'm fine. You know the thing that's a funny got it. So Kim and save on their Muslim or that happened because they're saying this is not all about guys. It's not just a boy problem. Right but it's got to just feel like for Theo. He's just sitting there he's off. Not free and then it's like candy Mater kind of writing about the sky. I mean, it could have been any guy but it's just like he's just sitting there chilling. I don't see you as a part of it too. He made a decision to go after Kim versus Dave on, you know what I mean? So but and they're just talking to each other about our debate, but he's not a part of the girl like Annette the girl conversation that they have had prior to the situation and it's your friend that makes you feel stupid not the guy you like and like your friend that you can on you to be honest so back to agreeing with you. You one feels if I had a friend and I said, oh, I like Dan and you said oh, I don't like Dan and then Jenna and Dan got together and then Jenna and I found out like we were doing this. I feel stupid and be like you should have said something. We love you guys. Thank you for always tuning in Dan has more information. I think you just said it. All right, they're not thank you guys so much for making us the ESPN of TV talk give us a five star rating on iTunes. Give us a comment. Give us some like subscribe to all of our fun channels here at AfterBuzz TV after which means the world to us. So stick around and comment comment comment but really guys, thank you so much. We saw I think this is probably our most viewed episode last week. It seems like we got 18,000 and Counting, right? Yes. Thank you. Yes. Thank you so much. Thanks for not taking. Nara ending video of the AfterBuzz file too seriously because we sure as hell didn't love you guys. Thanks. A lot of chat for always tuning in with that being said, this will be my last show. No that was for now. I am actually moving back to Jersey. So I love you guys and appreciate you. Thanks for being on this ride for where the world with us. Don't worry. We're not gonna let her go. We're gonna kidnap. Okay, so let's give him a bit. What should we talk about? Back Zack or tape. We're going to get it solved Apes bag. Okay, let's talk about tape gate. So on the subject of talking badly about people behind each other's back which is kind of funny segments that they showed people's confessionals and then they made them talk about it word for word of on the stage, which I like because a lot of it was humorous thought it was joking like d and Zahida say, oh I'm better than her physically athletically and I look better all that stuff about have a cute funny and Then bananas shuts it down and says, okay. I actually have something serious. I want to say Dave on I think you owe me Kyle Theo an apology because he basically feels defames and saying that Davon took to her YouTube account when she wasn't even there during the situation and she should have never said stuff that she said because it escalated to bananas and kylan Theo them being accused of assault and taping Amanda to a wall and all this stuff that never happened and it was basically extremely exaggerated and blood and screams and all this other stuff and that, Georgia. And the heat over actually there so it turns out that Amanda was doing her thing. She was being drunk and wild and crazy and playfully everybody tried to kind of taper up as I said like Amanda if you keep talking trash we're going to tape you up. I mean, it was great to have the facts in the light shed on it. And I do feel bad that Theo and bananas and Kyle and all these guys were shown to be worse than maybe they were or they should Have been accused of assault if they you know, they weren't assaulting but I still the situation still kind of rubs me wrong. I still think it was weird like that she was taped and and you know that her hair kind of got pulled out it still is uncomfortable for me. Yeah, I just feel like there's a there's a there's another way to deal with someone who's drunk and being annoying versus, you know, getting you know consciously getting out tape and putting it on somebody and the way bananas ago we put on our hands but then she broke free then we came to break us but then she broke free. So what it would have been Worse if you just taped everything up and did a little break free. You still were taping her up. It's weird. Like is there another way you can handle Amanda is I I can only imagine man too drunk. I mean we see it on the show. I don't want to be around that either but I'm not taping the girl up. That's all I'm gonna say. I don't really have much more to say about it is that you know first I'll say good for bananas for calling Dave on out on that especially because stuff like that, especially the media that could go very bad. She wasn't even there. That's what I like about the Devon. So that's the thing where it's just like that can be taken a lot. More serious than it obviously was and so I mean, I don't blame him for being upset. You know, I'm kind of I'm on the fence again you'd I think it's situation. You'd have to be there. I mean, yeah, like the taping thing is weird. But at the same time if it's if they were it was completely playful completely innocent. Like you said, she's Breaking Free but she's like having fun with it. You know, that's one thing if she's like literally just like freaking out or so. We don't know who run of us were that's what I'm saying. So crazy, that's I'm saying it. It just depends on the situation you want to be and so I can see both sides I can. See how it can maybe just be fun and innocent everybody's you know, there was girls in Vale could just be something like that. She's drawing gets. I mean, it's the challenge house. You've seen crazy stuff there. But again or it could be the other way where she's like freaking out. It's like you don't know unless you're there, you know, I mean, it's hard to say. Yeah. I mean, I'm on the fence about Devon posted on her YouTube account and talking about it because she was just recounting the story. She was told I know maybe she wasn't there and she doesn't know all the facts but she starts off from I don't believe it was malicious and this is what I heard and witnessed. From Amanda so she does recount her story and when she was there for and what Amanda told her but it is maybe you shouldn't talk about anything that maybe you don't know about and also making guys look like they are assaulting people and they're not right. So that's one thing but it's also bringing attention to a subject that should it be talked about should Dave honor brought attention to it because now we're seeing that things could be covered up or there's a right way to go about things. You know, right? Okay. This is my take on this and why I think Devon is so in the wrong I think Dave on is Extraordinarily smart she is not a dumb person to make a video to get on a live in this climate that we live in and accused three men of assaulting someone mummifying them her words were bloody hair and she knew what she was doing. It was extremely inflammatory. She didn't say I wasn't there or maybe she did the point is my point is she didn't mention Georgia and Zahida. She I think Dave on exploited the situation For attention and she got it and if Devon and Amanda are besties as everyone's saying which I never saw them hang out ever on the show. But if you want to talk about this and bring awareness to this issue, why don't you call the restaurant and say what happened to other people if we want to shed light on it and you were not there and you're going to pick and choose who you're calling out and you've got a beef with one of those people because you feel I think she had ulterior motives. I think they were clear and when you're saying things Like that about someone you better have been the victim of it or at least witnessed it because that has serious repercussions to people. And that is a really really intense crying wolf or something. You were not a part of and if you are going to make a video about that to the world and call people out by name and accuse them and she did then you I mean you read her her thing on the show. She's the one that said mummified. She's the one that put those things out there and those are words that mean something and to say that someone did that and well I don't call this whole car. Guard and MTV Auto Show the but I mean, it's I was like, yeah, I wasn't there so I don't know but it sounds horrible and now even Amanda everybody and Devon said yeah, I'm sorry. It's like so it was a big hmm kind of misunderstanding. Well that was turned into a really big thing. It is weird that she didn't mention that's Akita and Georgia were yeah. She said Amanda didn't tell her that when she came and told her what happened. She said Amanda failed to tell her that and then Amanda also said that she did have the tape wrapped around her head. So then she turned that. Into being mummified cats what happened? You're gonna run in here and say Jenna just assaulted me in the parking lot if I'm gonna get out and tell the world Jenna just assaulted Dan. I'm going to get my facts straight. I'm gonna talk to Jenna. I'm gonna Devon has power Devon has a following Davon said Very accusatory thing is against three people that I don't think I don't think we're fair. I mean, I don't know. I can't remember forbidden what Davon said, but I don't think David was she apologized? I don't think she used the word assault. And I know that you practice it off her game. Okay, I don't remember saying assault I just I just think it's unresponsible of Davon for what you did and I think on top of that after the fact knowing that it wasn't that serious, she should have at least issued an apology or addressed her audience of what the facts were with the situation. Not just kind of let it play out because like I agree with you Pam kind of situation can turn to something very serious and that's not cool. You know that that's what I'm saying. I again, I like Tavon and I think she's very smart and with that responsibility. Are you a role model or like a man doesn't know but Devon I put on a higher place than Amanda who would just talk smack. I trust Yvonne to some extent. So when you find out that that was sort of all oh, well, it was just my take on what I heard happened and the ramifications that it could potentially have for these guys. It makes me a little Amanda. They should have a lot of Mana to maybe to speak a little bit more and go right in. Oh, she's the one that happened to I mean, she said her own thing saying I'm not going to talk about this anymore. Just I don't know even the way bananas was describing it though. Even when I was with bananas was describing you're saying that you'd feel okay with him duct taping your wrists ankles and like that that felt uncomfortable to me and I was like, I like the fact that he's like I forgot about it. We've got some Gap taste like bananas. How about you just kick her out your room and lock the door bro. Well, he said numerous times that he tried doing that. I know it was the same way. But anyway, she's fine. She's so skinny. She's fighting her get that for you. Like what again? Like and I agreed and at the taping is a little extreme. I do agree with that but also the context of the situation you mean and if there's multiple people around like I said, and if everybody's just kind of joking around having a good time if she's not legitimately like oh this is like offending me or I'm not you having fun or whatever. I mean it's hard man because we don't sell so it makes it okay that like five people were there doing it instead of three like leaving but as far as the approach that Davon together like 3 minutes 3 minutes talking. Yeah, so Yeah again, I want to say for the record. No don't tape anybody up. Nobody tape anybody up. However back to the is it a big deal that came likes a boy. I like you are in this pressure cooker. They grabbed gaffer tape. I like that. He noticed that it's like we have limited props. This tape was around imagine Amanda 3:00 in the morning when you have a challenge the next day and you start goofing around. I'm not condoning it. I just think it's irresponsible to talk about it the 30 other people in the house didn't take Her up though. So they going to be in touch. Let's talk about them. Let's move on. Okay, like we'd be this is death and Barron Gorge apparent Georgia or or poly followers become to either one of those and then Zach Bumble. Okay. That's just something about the okay. So what was ours Paulie hooking up with Cara for followers? Yeah. Let's see. Let's go around yes or no, believe it or don't you? Yes. So I believe it baby. Damn. I think those two crazy kids are in love. No ha ha before we continue one of the ways we keep all these shows for you free is by our amazing sponsors. And today Spotify is one of our sponsors on Spotify. You can listen to all of your favorite artists and podcasts in one place for free. You don't even need a premium account Spotify as a huge catalogue of podcasts on every topic including the one you're listening to right now on Spotify. You can follow your favorite podcast. So you don't miss an episode premium users can even download episodes to into offline wherever they are and you can easily share what you're listening to with all your friends and following on Instagram. If you haven't done so already be sure to download the Spotify app and search for AfterBuzz TV on Spotify or browse podcasts in the your library tab. Also, make sure you follow us you never miss an episode of AfterBuzz TV. I know how this works. So I think they're all hooking up with everybody for perks for Clouseau. Holly is car was already fine. She was already well officer moszer's in the beginning I would say absolutely because I think polymorphs live together in Montana. Would you move to Montana for a showmance not we want we're not talking now we're talking to be when this all started when he got on to the challenge of the first time. You're telling me he didn't look at car and say that girl's got a lot of stuff over on the show. It's gonna help me even beneath it shortcut it his way and Anna's of course, they're making about bananas is saying he wants to be me. I do think Paulie wants to be the new face the challenge. I don't think he wants to be bananas everybody on their wrong as Amanda said tonight that I thought. Yeah Amanda. We're on reality TV. We're all doing things for attention. Is there a small part of you that thinks? Oh a showmance with the face of the challenges certainly going to boost my stuff. Sure. Do I think they're faking it? No, not at all. I think that all the question was asked was that what did he get with a car at the beginning for followers? Say, yes, I know. I don't know we can call honey. There's nothing more Polly wants though is to be reality TV famous be the poster boy for the child. So I do have a doubt at all that that there was that was an influence in him dating car. But I do think I felt for them tonight that they are so content with each other. Yeah, they've been through a lot of ups and downs and I still think there were their relationship is I can't make a comment on it. But I think I think the relationship is ridiculous and I love tonight that Polly He's being called out left and right for Cara being cheated on and for her kind of being like the second woman which felt sad and distressed for her. But I mean she knew when she went back with him. So you're going to have to read those Provisions consequences. You're going to have to deal with people talking about it. This is a relationship you decided to continue. So you have to deal with people's opinions and hearing about it when you are reality TV, but I just thought it was so funny that is being called called out constantly. Unfortunately, I think Cara is you would think after like a life. I'm Doing this stuff. She would be a little more media trained and a little more Savvy. I think she is so terrible on these appearances like I agreed with her sentiments, but she is very bad at expressing herself. I kind of like the way she expressed herself today. I'm going to be honest on the barren Georgia stuff. I like the bars and Polly just seemed like they did not care about the outside world and their opinion on their relationship, which I kind of dug even though I think the relationship is ridiculous. I kind of like that. It's It seemed like they didn't care at all about any buddy chirping at them. You know, I agree. Yeah, they seemed unfazed. I'm and I disagree. I think there are some moments. I mean, I don't know if he's eating or what but I mean there's some moments where it look like some of those dicks did affect the other woman stuff because I was six I mean again, but that is a choice that she made and I think she knows that deep down. This is the time where it sucks. She's like I'm happy with my decision that I got back with him because this is my man and I loved him all that. She's finding happiness everyday living with him, but getting those zingers and stings all the time. Well, that was your decision. I think she knows that and I think that's a pill to swallow me. Like well, this is what's going to happen. When I do this. Yeah, at least I don't know. I can't put myself in her brain exactly that she seems very defensive but she has to be she's on the defense all the time. Another thing. I know don't hurt me. Why does Dave on hate car so much. I don't even why does she hate her? So my me when I was faced with them, but I think are definitely has victimizing Tendencies like, you know the person okara, please victim a lot to you. You know, like certain situations she'll act as if like how could this happen to me? But then she'll kind of jump on somebody else for the same situation. So should we leave that in to bear and Georgia do it? Okay, let's go. That's Wednesday. I like Cara. So I love corn again. I like that. She's bad in these situations. She is, you know, she seems like she's in it for the show. She's not a good personality like being herself and speaking she doesn't come across. I don't mean this as an insult. I mean it as a compliment she doesn't come across. Also great in these situations. I've 1 million percent agree with her about the Georgia situation and I don't know why it's being portrayed as as bad. George is not mad. So why is it a thing like car bringing Georgia to hear? Of course? Why is that stirring the pot? Of course, you want him to get called out? We all can get called out. So sheeting on George on we all love I'm a bigger Davon fan than I am. I guess the car fed. I loved avons Charisma and I think she's hilarious her calf. Officials, but actually was agreeing more with what car was it's hard because Cara wanted Georgia to hear that bear was cheated and necessarily which I am therefore. I think Georgia should know if you're hooking up with somebody who you don't think as a girlfriend you need to know that so I think our was being a good girl and a good friend by bringing Georgia over but Dave always try to call it her intentions and then cars intentions became blurry because now car is getting caught up saying sure I wanted to see her kick. There's a slash Much as highly means I want Georgia to see what Bears doing and then beat him out for which is great. Here's the thing no matter what cars intentions were at least she was at least she was going to see oh my God George George it was going to see what bear was doing behind her back if they went to Dave on which they bonds like I was going to tell Georgia after but it would become a second party and even Georgia said if it came from a second party who I don't know if I would have believed it at least I got to witness it. So no matter what if your car I don't care of cars. Is wrong or looking for whatever the hell more fucking about more followers. I'm so sorry. I'm a Disney dad. I do not like cars who cares what her intentions were at least she got to see what bear was doing behind our back 100. Georgia is not mad. Why are you why why are you coming at Cara when George was like, I'm glad she told me it's a thinly-veiled silly reason to hate Cara or to say car was doing Nasty evil thing and I think what come on. This is a weird pick and choose. I feel like it's going back to almost like the poly being with car for followers thing. I think David's picking a big Target exactly to get a tension T of a sudden. It seems like she's going after the bananas Cara. She's doing what everyone's accusing everyone else I do. Hang on did I mention bring George over because I don't think she want to Georgia to feel embarrassed or humiliated in front of everybody but I mean I could tell it wasn't his cousin like a lion like if here I'll put it this way if I have my worst enemy in the house with me and that guy comes over and tells me that those girls mess around on me just to get a rise out of me. I'm still going to be happy that guy told me because now I know what this right I could care less the intention behind it. The fact is now I know. This is contradicting herself with the cam. Theo thing. It's like you don't want to feel stupid you want honesty. Now, you're calling out Cara for pointing out the truth. Mmm. It doesn't it doesn't add up and I agree. That's what to me was revealed tonight that made me unhappy with Dave on was wait a second. And again the worst part of this all is all this stuff is happening about this person getting his information. Meanwhile, the perpetrator is sitting there and it's just cool in right now and I was like, Talking about talking about is that you're dating under age 6 as well. I don't know you tell me bury your so hysterical. Now. You may still like their American Dirty Dan. I was right on Tendencies and was such a smug. Jerk. God talk about wanting someone to be taken down that guy. I just can't I just get so embarrassed. I just get so embarrassed for some of the challenges on these reunions because they they start they just saying stuff to say stuff A lot of times. And then Dave ants are dancing when I really didn't agree with her point. So it maybe I'll say I was feeling like oh my god. Did I just sit down? I'm embarrassed. I'm embarrassed. I'm sounds like am I watching this? I don't know. I don't I can't re watch the reunions. I was embarrassed when she started dancing and like saying like thinking she was right and that one case I like no. No, I was upset with her. It did turn for me tonight from from her saying telling it like it is to telling it like you want it to be with a very interesting thought. Yeah and also speaks to this the relationships all these shows for the most part everybody cheats on Buddy Holly shows like how if you hook up with somebody in this house? How do you ever trust you ever think that they don't have somebody back home? We found out that Ash had see ya back home a shot a girlfriend when he hooked up with say - that he told everybody chief. He said he told her this is not going anywhere. This is physically still cheat on his girlfriend this whole thing should just be a joke because I don't even think I think Georgia does have feelings, but she also just like doesn't really care. You're so cute. Adorable I don't like seeing her heart back to kind of mother. She is like, oh, well, I really hope I don't keep my hands off and but looks nice doesn't really want she just likes messing around with this stuff unless there's different code of conduct in the UK because the things he said if I were her I'd be like, okay, what about the cold night on duct when you are in South Africa and you're just feeling a little frisky one night and you go on Bumble. You're like, I'm gonna make a fake profile because this is sit so funny. It's funny All My Friends Are Gonna think this is so funny. So I make this fake profile. Look whoops. Whoops. All right. I have a girlfriend security Jenna leave me alone. It's her fault and I need to be restrained from my girlfriend because she is acting ridiculous and foolish when she finds out I almost went on a date and don't let me say this real quick Buzz that cause you're all going to just hate on him. So I'm just gonna jump. Oh yes. I just for fun right now Zack thinks he's funny. I'm a Korean. Okay. All right. Know what funny Zack thought if he did do that and he actually he actually thought that was funny. It wasn't funny but to Zach it was like so in theory my thought is he went on public policy but they're gonna think this is so funny. I'm gonna get so many laughs at dinner tonight. He's a moron that is that down? Okay. I think he's that dumb that he thinks that's what funny is necessarily that you guys can challenge a challenge Jenna girl. You got to get yourself together. I'm sorry watching all all this back and I'll be like yeah on the moment. He didn't I know Jenna's I know I'm saying a lot of unpopular things tonight. Ken has a very sweet girl. But Honey Jack is a liar. He's a jerk. He's not even nice to you. I mean, I think she needs to move II hope that she again and again blah blah blah talk about abusive. That guy's a jerk. I'm sorry. That's a freaking jerk. Whatever excuses he comes up with are so slow. You better and I wish she didn't allow herself to be relationship. I know and I love China so much. I don't mean to laugh at her pain. I don't even laugh at her relationship. But but I need security. It's not the funniest thing sax a client from a 90-pound girl. I understand that he needed security for his peace of mind. I know he won't going to hit Jenna people before you say I'm being ridiculous for reading too much into the whole security comment like Like that's what you're getting at when you made the most boneheaded move of all time. What did you think anybody's reaction was when you have a girlfriend like Jenna who's dropped a gorgeous and cool as hell. What do you think? She her reaction is gonna be when you make a bumble account as a joke? I have no no, no girlfriend. No significant other ever is going to be like, oh, you're so funny honey. It's cool. Right like Zach. You're wrong say right. I'm sorry, but it sounds fun. Sounds like you're being ridiculous John alike. Are we over because I can't see. Mental hell yeah. Oh my God. I'm still hopeful I'm so confused at what the funny part Suzanne so serious. It does is funny. What was your endgame? I'm just punch the punch line. I'm sorry on this one. I'm almost team Amanda. I like Jenna and she's had her moments and I think she's a good competitor. But at this point when she's on it was I'd like to see Amanda without Zach or not Amanda Jenna without Zach on a challenge when they're together. But I agree with Jenna she's Furniture. She's like wooden furniture will not do anything. Well not Gus is also Furniture as hair was his hair annoyed me tonight. There was the man his hair was flying up there. I was very high up. Then you're such a big fan of guess. I can't stand Gus. You know, I love long hair and I was heartbroken when Kyle cut us off but he looks very handsome. He looks nice. But again on the ghost Jenna thing. I just don't think they make good TV. I'd like that. They're just they're all gone. So many things about Gus. It's like with that we have enough psycho people on the show where it's like Uncle John and guess y'all don't want to be pending in the drama. Like I said more to you. I am speaking of Kyle. Did you see his neck tattoo that went up into this. He always have that a reasonable hair on the back of his head. I feel like a different person today, but I got it back. I looked good like stupid the whole season so ridiculous and With this is normal hair. He's a good-looking guy. Like I finally get it. Now. I've been like this do Spa is headbands and pigtails. How can you even tell if I again but back to Zach because there's no train. I'd rather ride than it hates Zach trained. Okay. I mean, he just clearly I don't know why he's still going on they show us because he really doesn't care which is a weird way. I almost sort of due respect that part of him think that he's not taking his challenges too seriously, and he's not trying to be a poly or he's not trying to be bad. Is where it's like this is my life is how making my fame I'm a reality TV star. He's just like all right. I kind of want to go home. Can I just go? I mean, I'm just going to throw the shells you go home. Davon has joined us in the live chat. Oh get out. So that's going to be great. She said Allah. Oh honey with a bunch of because I don't know and read it all this incredible thing. Join us in the live show. Yes. Yeah if you have any takes on this has actually been I shit on all night. So I'm sure she's pretty pumped to be a live chat with it and to the people watching and to everybody that supports us. We love the show. Obviously. We take it very seriously we care about it and we like the dialogue wrong or right like that's great. I'd love to hear the inside scoop from the horse's mouth. Like know it got edited this way. I'm the reunions know it got that's what we need to hear. Did you know is what's the what's the story? Yeah. So bananas and Zach. Yeah. So now so Zack is just clearly giving no apps and yeah, what ends up being I think the most disrespectful thing is not that he wants to leave for himself is that he said he wants to pick saheed as a partner because he thinks that's going to be as close as ticket. Yeah believe which and she gets choked up. She like damn you were playing me this whole time. You never said you wanted to leave every time I can fun of you. I heard all these rumors and you were lying to me, but that just I think what seconds he's kind of just appeal washer is lying to everybody. He just doesn't care. Hmm. Well as banana said fool me once going twice for me seven times like yes, that is a liar apparently and the story with him telling bananas. He would throw the challenge and then he didn't as also jerky. Mmm. I mean it's jerky to throw the challenge because there's people that really want to be there and to take it seriously and then it's jerky did not do it after you say you're gonna do know that if we're not even wanted to be on the show. It just don't lie. I don't know but I guess so. Yeah for that. Devon right. I'm watching from the beginning but I don't know. We don't know if that's really her but it is hurt you. That's your YouTube channel that we were chatting at out. So that's that's her that is her YouTube handle channel. So it's either her someone snuck onto her Chatters get to the bottom of they're all working on they are called are asking questions sewer. Yeah. Ask only Davon. What was your first pet Devon? If you are in the chat and you can answer our question. We love to hear from you. Yeah, we talked about I love that you called out Paulie tonight and I love how you said it to that. You said Polly, you know, I love you know, we're friends but you're pointing the finger is about all these cheating allegations your team on. Yeah you cheated on Cara and she said next year right now when you're with another girl, so let me know how that unfolded. If you can did you and Polly hash it out. After are you guys cool like tell us more about that situation if you want to comment and it's just a pain like in Thailand. That's what they're all saying. I have been saying that the whole time to I don't know how they do how they do. They pre set up all their social media because they're all still like Instagram liveing. And yeah and let me ask you this though. I didn't I thought day was on the fence of going back to UNI. She definitely went I don't Davon if you're you know what I mean? Like it was like one of those things were really dangerous. That's the fake The Imposter diabolical said knave on I like them to keep the same energy, please. Okay Dave on what else bear, Georgia? What else were oh Hunter Nami. Yeah, so how first off how do you ghost nany? So again, how high would you go? It's not why I think it was just Again, again, all this reunions really Hunter someone that I love and like really has a place in my heart and I want a love that's just making me like him a little less every time we took and I put him in the stupid Camp instead of in the like bad guy not stupid but making boneheaded move. I'm not killing him stupid. I think he does a lot of boneheaded things that are not thought through and he's not a bad guy, but dude, you gotta tease another one's got to like step it. Like don't I'm almost not even sit in the corner all that kind of hiding under his hat. Brim. Just he did not want to be a part of this reunions at all. Yeah, and then and we do know at this point that he is having a baby on the way. I do think that that's his personal life and it has nothing to do with the show and it didn't need to be talked about as much as I wanted to know. I think he had a secret girlfriend the whole time and now she's pregnant it has to do she was convinced that you know, she was like, I don't know anything about him like that seems shady that she was like Like there's a girlfriend. Yeah, that's he said no, there's not another song Because if they're hooking up and nany shouldn't be all like hey, you have a pregnant girl at all, right, maybe punter didn't know that. Yeah, but again, it goes back to you can't trust anybody on the show, I guess not but I feel like you feel have to feel but making connections with people if they're not I will give Ash credit Zahida said I did and I knew what it was. There was no hard feelings. I don't the knew this was a physical connection for what it was. She didn't think they were falling for each other. No, but she came back and she was infatuated and she was calling him and she wanted to Nam nany. Yeah, and now he had tears in her eyes Ashton's Aikido. I was like, yeah, I'm hooking up with you because I'm attracted to you and we're young and single and in this house. Yeah, but for nany sake even if Hunter doesn't want to be with her just tell her just answer her the fact that you got ghosted was messed up and it shows more of Hunter than what we think we know because he tries to you. Mr. America's sweetheart and be all like I never do anything wrong, you know, I Have the most outstanding morals. Meanwhile, you can't even tell a girl like hey, I actually have a girlfriend. Yeah, I'm in a relationship. So I like Hunter I will say he's shown good character in times. We've chatted. He seems like a really cool guy and um, you know it who knows how complicated the situation is it maybe didn't know how to wow her. He didn't know if he should who died, who knows what's going on at that time. So it's hard to say, but I mean, there's clearly more to this specially by the way. He Reacting to everything and I don't think he would just necessarily ghost Nani for no reason. I just there's there's got to be more going on and he's obviously it was a lot. Thank you just didn't know what to say think for him. It was a showmance and she was either misled or surprised by that. He didn't address it. You know, I think the same reason anyone goes to anyone. It's like I don't really know what to say. So you just don't say anything but you know, I just think the little skeletal growing up to do and I like Hunter to I'm rooting for him, but it's Gotta stop doing things like that. Oh my God. Oh my God shaylene has just joined a live chat. This is crazy day. You've been 1ups deal with it. And let's say this real quick turbo and Theo finish first and second place. They were barely mentioned in the Holy reasons. I because they don't create drama. That's crazy thing. We're promoting the wrong thing almost in a way. That's kind of disappointing. And this to sit and air your dirty laundry and I got to go over the competition. This is just saying I'm just saying what happened very disappointing point and the point we think this has been a great season as we saw we went it exceeded expectations. We went in after final Reckoning Vendetta's which were like flop. So where the world put it back on the map. I said Ruth season 34. Yeah coming your way. Thank you everybody for being along with us this entire time. My name is Gianna bussiere. My Twitter is Jenna. Scored last year and it's been a fun time. Thank you guys for everything. Yeah. All right, maybe fake Davon, maybe not we don't know the damn thing run Instagram. My name is Pamela grows, Joe on the social media. Thank you guys so much for joining us again. Please take what we say with a grain of salt. We're just watching the show and commenting David Christopher if I me at David Boger Christopher on Instagram DPR Christopher on Twitter Jen. We are going to miss you this sucks. Thank you guys so much for sticking with us this whole time, especially with this girl. We will see you. Hopefully next time Jen find her. Yeah, good night guys. Thank you. Kevin undergaro and me Maria Menounos would like to thank you for tuning in to AfterBuzz TV. Remember, we're not just the first with a biggest in the world and were the only destination for all your favorite TV shows whatever you crave. We've got it. So go to AfterBuzz tv.com and check out our lineup Buzz ya later. Hmm. The views expressed herein are those of the host only you do not necessarily reflect. reflect the views of AfterBuzz TV or its owners our principal
The reunion brings the drama and Hunter’s about to be a mama. Well, that wasn’t actually confirmed, but what is confirmed is that Kyle’s hair is short and we are sad. We talk dating your way to more followers, dating your way to a fake bumble account for kicks, and dating your cousin. Woo! About The Challenge After Show: The Challenge, a mix between Real World and Road Rules Challenge, featuring alumni from the past shows as the contestants compete for a cash prize, is such an insane show, we HAVE to talk about it! That's why we have THE CHALLENGE AFTER SHOW! Tune in here for reviews, recaps and in-depth discussions of the latest episodes, as well as the insider scoop from cast and crew members on the show as we go crazy. It's going to get bananas because there's basically a different guest each week! About The Challenge:  It's every player for himself in this edition of the long-running reality competition "The Challenge," which for the first time shuns team play and awards a final prize that could exceed $500,000 to one person. The fun begins with 28 cast members -- fan favorites from "The Challenge" joined by contestants from "Big Brother" and stars from MTV UK's "Ex on the Beach" and "Geordie Shore" -- in Spain looking to settle personal vendettas. In a new twist, players who survive grueling elimination rounds are awarded "Grenades," allowing them a chance to get even with anyone in the house with whom they may have a beef. It adds up to a competition spiced with heightened drama, doubt and deception. ---   This episode is sponsored by  · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. 