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Like you don't do anything half-assed and it's like so amazing to see like that kind of person doing so well, so first of all, congratulations, thank you. And do you wanna just give a brief outline of what you do? So you're a DJ you're I'm a DJ and I forgotten everything else. Could I do I'm a DJ and I'm a radio presenter. That's the other thing to do. And I also do online stuff. I like I had to say that because like I feel like I'm not going to say that I word because I actually can't stand that man. Oh, that's so like everyone says that but but that's not your job. That know the cell like for fun and it happens to be I make money off my Instagram. So I'm just delighted. Yeah, but that's not like my job job. That's just like I'm just kind of like reaping the rewards while people want to pay me to put things on my Instagram. Yeah, and if you like your interim isn't like super curated. It's like your life and you're getting jobs because I It's authentic and it's like yeah, you are really cool shit like all the time. That's it. I just do I just had to honestly just for fun. I would I would never be like, oh my God, like I have to have this color scheme or I have to take I mean, I like I'm particular about like what kind of photos I put up but like they're all like really like fun like that and there's something that they always represent me. Like I would never put something. I don't know. It's like I think it'd be way too stressful to be like, I can't have to use this filter all the time. Yeah. Oh, I've tried to do that before and the just like absolutely like two weeks. I'm just like this is stressful but filtered effort. Yeah. Well like you're sitting that like I used to have like 100. So the only thing I use in terms of filters is like the coogee cam or huji like there's two of them some of the differences but they're called different things but I on don't I had I don't even put like a filter on I literally just use it just to kind of like maybe put a bit more saturation. So the colors pop and that's it. Like I did I've done load like this guy before and I've downloaded facing before and I'm like, these are both way too much effort and delete them because I'm like, I just I prefer I prefer natural looking photos as well. We don't like edited photos before look at at photos. I looking at magazine, so I preferred it to be just a just really real so that's my story. No, but I think that's so true because I feel like that's coming right back around like this is like so Random to be talking about but and like the natural looking photos and it's people like healing monkey fan. And you know, I love looking at those kind of Instagram feeds. I think like refreshing because like Instagram has gone through like a different like at the start. Everyone was using the filters like that they had with it and now it's there like rotten like it's like so what is that? I'm sorry, but you're like, yeah, like my mom was like Like my mom is the Instagram Queen. Oh, really? Yeah. She has the key. There's literally a photo where she took a picture of a gate. It's like a nice get she's gonna really be hate me for saying this way. She took a picture of a gate and it just says Gates so underrated, but I'm going back to you. And so how did you let's go go back to where you're from. You're from Australia. Yep, and we're in Australia from a place called Alice. Rings right in the middle. Okay, because it's what's that like it's fine. It was really interesting growing up there. I did really enjoy it but like going back is really tough because there's literally nothing to do and I mean the town I feel like you'd be a bit more interesting it was through thriving back in the day because there was a lot more tourism because like it LaRue is close to it that big rock. Okay. Yeah now it's six hours ago six hours away. So but His clothes in terms of Australian term because everything is so big so that and then the olgas I think they're called Casa tutor, but they are really close. So we used to get a lot of Tourism there and you know, you get like loads of tourists coming through and just heaps and buses to go and see you LaRue but then they actually built an airport. I do LaRue and so loads of tourists didn't come to our swings anymore. And that was really big part of what else brings was. It was kind of like it's bread and butter so loads of like hostiles shutdown and bars and stuff. So it used to be a lot more interesting I feel but it's kind of it's a bit sad. It's kind of not as thriving and exciting as it used to be but growing up it was fascinating because there were so many different types of people there my like I used to go to school with people that like, yeah, I kind of like using your mom's an artist. Like I like my friends like loads of their friends parents were like artists and stuff. Yeah. It's a very much of that kind of I mean, we have a thing called a beanie festival and a little just a festival of beanies random thing. I feel like I could do that in Smithfield Market but like people travel from around the country to come to the beanie Festival. We had like to Showcase their beanies that they admitted and every year I go because I'd be so excited cause I get like a really cool like hand it and they should be knee and my parents would be like, why did need to go again? Nothing happens here like it's exciting like instead of being cool be like him as long as she Festival. This was like we're going to the beanie Festival. I'm imagining like like a Lizzie McGuire scene where you're like Xing off the days. I'm like that's like the beginning of winter you'd be like, yeah, but that was that's a big highlight for me and my parents used to be mostly my dad be like why the yeah, why the fuck You going to the beauty vessel again when you literally have like I buy a new one every single year. Yeah, and they're not they're not cheap like because like the other hand this and actually amazing and they even had like tea cozies like and it just be loads of like old women with it being chicas. Yeah, you just be going around like judging all of their creativity like no that's not good enough for me to buy it. But anyway, so that's the kind of fascinating stuff that happens in Alice Springs, but that it is a nice place. It's just I went back a couple years. Ago, it's just not not the same but In fairness that I haven't lived there for like eight years. So yeah, it's different kind of place and would most of the people who have lived like your friends growing up what they have moved his off. Yes, some of them I mean a lot of my friends that I did grow up with I'm not in touch with them anymore and they honestly they would have like they bought a house as soon as we finish school. I kind of fell down and stuff and so I'm not really in touch with those Friends anymore, but there was there's about like I'd say like about five I could count that. I'm like we still follow each other on social. Yeah Jin, I mean one of my friends she moved to Hong Kong and she's like a fashion photographer funnily enough that her and I were like the big kind of art heads in school and we both like failed art school, right, but we both ended up doing really well creatively like out of that but it was so weird because everyone was like, yeah those like her name is Elvina like there everyone was out. All Terra Del Vino, they're going to be like doing something really creative in their lives and everything and the two of us ends up failing art like it was and we like raging it was yeah. It was like a big controversy in Alice Springs, but she yet. She's like a really really successful fashion photographer Hong Kong my other friend Bree who I grew up with Brianna. She she's going to actually hate. I just call her Brianna. She is a psychologist and she was actually living here for a while and she's now doing like a Is back in Australia and then I have another friend Steven who works in film in LA and he moved over about six years ago. I have five or six years ago now and he's doing is insanely well now in terms of like film like I don't know exactly what he does but something to do with me being like somebody up to know if you tell me I'm like, okay cool, but I know that he went like the Sundance Film Festival, so I was like lat and then drilling Wells I actually think that's kind of it too. Be honest, I mean that in terms of the people I saw talk to ya I don't talk to many of them though and what you said your parents owned a bar there. Yeah, my parents aren't apart from when I was about six or seven is called Sean's bar. My dad's name is Shawn to very original name. He's just like seeing like on those name generators on the other like and then it was called Sean spot and Malice these restaurants. Melody is my mom's name. Oh, that's nice. So it was joined. An Indian restaurants and an Irish bar, and they literally like joined they had a job there. And so you people be scared like Pine scanners and then a bowl of Curry. Oh my God that we need that here. I know I act as I was saying I was like, maybe I should not hear but it was amazing. I grew up there for about 10 years is really fascinating. That's my keyword at the moment fascinating so far. We're going to say that a lot. Why wait happen, but don't know my friend pointed out. He's like keep him safe fast anyone else. So much I go through the word phases. Like I was like, he said I was like lunch the other day. I was like it was fascinating. It's like, why was it fascinating? I just keep saying it's annoying me. But anyway, yeah. No I lived in the bar for like 10 years. I used to live behind the bar as well. We were talking about this about like the bodies get broken into all the time. And because there's a lot of crime in Alice Springs in general, but I guess yeah, we moved into an apartment just behind the restaurant and I lived there for about 10 years. And yeah, I grew up around like loads of adults. I got to know a lot of Irish people as well because those of Irish Backpackers used to work there. And so I think there's maybe why a lot of people have asked like well when I came here, I didn't find it hard to understand people because my dad's actually Irish as well but I grew up around so many Irish people from all different parts of the violin. So I kind of just like it was easy for me to kind of move here. Yeah, but yeah loves that they had that for like 10 years. And my dad's retired now and my mom is a psychologist and she works in a prison. I find that so fascinating. Yeah fascinating you put it in my head. I'm gonna be like a little bored like ding every time you say fascinated to learn how to do that. I love it. I love it. Yeah, it is fascinating though. Yeah. We're that work. But you were telling me about a job that you had while you live there which I find so fascinating I worked as a judge's Associates for like two years. So I used to wear like the white bib, but it's called a job. Oh, yeah, and then like the black robes like or the long, you know, when you see lawyers walking on the street in them and you're like, they don't need to wear that yeah, you just like boys showing off really neat because you do have to wear them, but I mean like they don't need to just be like walking on. Down the street I made in fan has I'd totally do that myself. Like I have one at home. But yeah, I used to wear. Yeah, you sweat all that kind of stuff. I didn't wear a wig like the judge refused to wear the wig. Yeah. Well funny if you had the wig and then they attribute to him coming out like stupid seal or you like died the wig. So yeah, what's the judge's associate like two years, which is really intense job. I don't know how the fuck I got that job. My God, I like I was on your CV when you applied for that job. I worked I worked at a place called my neck music world. Yeah, and that was a CD shop and another place on my CV was a place called Rock City Music. Yeah, which is an instrument music shop because I played it on other instruments and then I worked at a place called the Silver Bullet Cafe and it was a really really cool cafe. Actually you'd love it was very Arty they base. It was all I got of these big trains were made. Like cafes so so cool. But that was what the zombie see me but I was like 18 and finished school and I just saw in the papers that there was a position and so I had a meeting and I don't know I still actually don't even know how I got that job done this but I was really good at it, but I actually was working as what was called a sheriff's officer first. Yeah, and that was more your kind of like looking after dream members used to like get teas and coffees and stuff. And then there was a position for a judge's associate that And up and I think because I'd like because I also had to I got to know the judges and like the kind of lawyers and everything there but I think from that then they asked me to fill in for the just of the judge's associate position and I love doing that for ages and I loved it. Now. It was a very intense job like it's stressful like you have to physically someone's life at stake. It was a supreme court as well. So it was like murder trials and what weight it was a supreme. Yeah. Yeah Supreme. Yeah. I know I still have How long does he look at me now? People would be like how would I was but Sheila into like working like a courthouse but like it was the intense one. So you'd be doing trials for like a couple months. I remember like like five guys that I went to school with were charged with murder and I was a judge's associate in there and like those so people in like the gallery I knew most of them like it was insane, but I had to like just just was a baby. I mean, I wasn't judging them I was As a judge I was the person that basically would sit just kind of below where the judge was sitting. Yeah, and with be like following the trial taking notes. Also I'd like if I remember correctly like I drained the defendants, so I just have to ask everyone to stand and I'd have to read out their charge and ask them if they plead guilty or not guilty. And so and then they say like what they played and then I'd have to read out like the As well like was that so scary. It was really scary because it's lift. You couldn't fuck up. You can't laugh like you does no smiling. It's because it literally someone's life is at so do you ever get scared that like you'd read the wrong thing? Because you'd be thanking the wrong thing. I feel yeah, he's scared of reading like not guilty when they're get I know that yes, they were guilty. Yeah. No. No, I mean it never happened, but definitely because especially because it's not like you can read a script beforehand. It's literally just done like eulogy We walk in and the judge will hand you the piece of paper and that's it. You just have to quickly like read it first in your heads, but it is really really intense and like it would put I loved I really really loved that job and the pay was insane. So obviously I was delighted but I was always kind of like that would have I would have stayed for that job to be honest like, you know the Springs but I always knew that I didn't really fit in Alice Springs. I wanted to like be what I wanted to be around something bigger like, you know as in terms of a city because just the town was too small for I was just big fish of that small town and I but I genuinely found it really really hard to leave that job because I just was I've always been interested in law. My dad's a lawyer. So I've I've did want to be a lawyer when I was younger but music was kind of what I was going for more and put and also my parents kind of push me more towards music. I don't really want me to do law because my dad I mean it's an intense being a lawyer is really really hard work. Also. I wanted to be a judge. I just want to skip the whole lawyer part and just become judge but you can't do that. Like I have to be hated only imagine you as a judge in like a music video like you never yell at music. But like I mean, it was mad it was the only thing that thing I did find out about it was because I did have to like we're like look, you know office attire had to wear like a shirt you had to be proper every single day. You had to look like you couldn't have mad Nails. I can't have my hair. That was what I found hard because through high school. I was like that. I always have my nails painted. I always had like I used to have really really really long hair and I was like I was had paint on my like dress and everything. So it was really hard for me to like be proper. But I love the job so so much and also we really had to leave that money like the money was insane, but I saved up for two years and then moved here and then and why here well, I was originally wanted to move to London. Like I wanted to be a musician first. I played like six instruments including the flesh including the flutes. I'm going to Tire the ocean. I've lost all my God. It was it an article recently and they were writing about me literally said noted Florida. I was like because it's in your fight. I put it there because of that. Oh, yes, I put that in there. So yeah, I moved here to be a musician. I used to open mic nights and stuff and I used to have a band here and he's paying like Brooks tells so what kind of music I do? I started off doing kind of like singer-songwriter kind of music and then I sign making more electronic kind of music or bought like this keyboard and it's play the flute actually in my shows as well. And I played the electric guitar and I made quite a kind of like kind of war paint it. Each one of these kind of music. Okay, so like electronic and quite dark kind of stuff. I mean, I'm definitely giving myself way too much credit my music sounds like if I'm comparing myself to war paint, so do these that was in my head what I was trying to go for I was trying to take because I am big big fan of the yeah, and that was the kind of music I want to make but I and like yeah, I did. I did really good stuff with that like a bad that I had and I'm still friends with them as well. But Kind of I've been playing music since I was nine like and I was I played a lot like I was classically trained in the flues did Jazz training in the saxophone like my life consisted of a lot of just playing music and I actually also wanted to be a basketball player, but then my parents like you need to pick there's so many things going on here High School Musical you basketball our music. I hated that movie so much and whatever when it came out and all my needs Were so upset so that no sector all just hope a thick. Oh my God, and that makes four years later. I was like, I'm going to such a good film. So I kind of got to a point to others when I was working as a waitress. I was working in the girl in town on fade Street, and then I had a few different waitressing jobs and also the music and I literally just making money just like, you know to pay for like recording studio time and rehearsals your time and I always Let's pay the band. Like I never made money from the music because I'd always Distributing the 3 of them. Yeah, because they're obviously giving up their time to play with me and it was never like we weren't like a bandit was more like Tara's shirt and you know, but yeah, so it was only fair that I always paid them and but then I kind of I just kind of fell in love with it to be honest. I was like, actually I don't I was I wasn't able to write music. I didn't enjoy the music I was making anymore and he actually went to like Scotland for Christmas, too. Meet my best friend that lives in LA and I spent Christmas with his family and his family were like, so what are you doing? Like, what are you have to like you doing this this like I was like nothing. I was like, I've actually been like working at this for so long and it's I'm not saying it was only like I really I don't even living here like maybe three years three or four years, but it just I just didn't love it anymore. And I was like, okay I but I love music. Like I really really love music, but I just wasn't loving being a musician icicle. And I'm kind of lost a lot of love for it and then honestly like I mean, I'm kind of just like going on and on and on here. No, this is so no, this is so interesting. Sorry. I like I'm literally laughing this up because it must have been really hard like when you think some things like your absolute passion in life and then like fuck I don't like this anymore. Yeah. What the fuck do I do? I mean it was really tough. But to be honest the toughest thing was to tell my parents because they had put put so much money into me playing music and me learning so many different instruments and I think because my parents quite academic and then they wanted me to be they that's why they kind of pushed me in terms of being more critical in the creative kind of world, but that was the hardest thing and I know that my parents were on my back a lot for a long time up until now to be honest really cuz I I think because I think I mean they're definitely listen to this so shouts them. But I think now because I can actually see that I'm doing well. Yeah, I like the biggest thing for them is they just wanted me to be successful in terms of being able to survive. Yeah, like in my family been through lots of up and downs. My parents have been bankrupt like, you know, so they just wanted me to be like, you know able to fend for myself I guess. So that was the toughest thing was telling them. I didn't want to play music anymore, but I didn't tell them until I kind of had a plan in place for what to do next and like honestly, See in terms of like music. I have dabbled in the float since but more fun and I actually love it's like I love just playing for fun now and that sounds nice. Yeah, I did because I do I mean the way I started playing the flute though. I didn't actually want to I was like nine in primary school and they used to do this program where they like bring around the music heads would bring around loads of instruments and you'd literally be like this big Assembly Hall and like your class would be there and what the way they did it was they were just V up instruments amongst everyone everyone had to learn something like an ass yet and my last name is Stuart. So I'm always like most last on the roll call and all of the fucking instruments were people the first one I want to play with the drums. Yeah, then there was no drum using this is so cool. I did planet on eventually. I actually used to have an amazing drum set. I don't even know if my parents still have that but I did eventually down the line here, but at the time I really wanted to play the drums and they were all pay. Picked out then I was like, okay percussion like which was like The Bongo tambourine section. They're like no because all the lads had picked all that stuff. Yeah. And then what did I go for next? I think I went for like, oh, I want to play the saxophone. I ended up doing that later on but the time they're like that was like the cool instrument. Yeah, that was all gone. And then I said the clarinet and I don't even know why I see the clarinet because like Edward like so Random Planet know so obviously I picked every single is ruined but the flute and the oh Only one left with the triangle and the float I'll tend to be trained on the triangle clearly the can but I was I could not go back to my parents and be like, yeah, I picked the triangle. Like I'm sorry. Also, if you're shaving if you were given the triangle they might be like there's something like do we need to go into the school? Yes, exactly. Yeah, so I'm having to pick the flow to because you had to pick something. So I picked the flute and I hate it for years and then it's actually more the older. I've gotten The more I've enjoyed I enjoy it. Yeah, so yeah, I don't know. I don't know. So that's my flute story my flute story. And yeah and goodbye. So then how did you start getting into presenting and so radio I literally like was on Twitter one day and I saw there's a presented our quality who acts 9 t FM Who I've been friends with since I moved here. He used to be in a band called Fox Avenue and my drummer used to fill in for his drummer. Okay gigs and so I used to go along with him and got to know Dara and Dyers honestly, like one of the nicest guys in the industry and so he basically us on Twitter that 98 of them were looking for a fill and radio presenter, and I'd never ever consider presenting before like never It was kind of thought that was going to play music loud popping gonna duel or something and or get into fashion, like I know because I've always loved fashion. Yeah, so I was kind of but like I always had these I don't actually I went to the Grafton Academy. I did like a sewing coarser tonight, but I was I'm very impatient person. Yeah, it's sort style. I can't remember anything. No same like because I did a dress making course every week. I feel like I'm starting from scratch again. Yeah, and like I just feel like I need help again already mathematical. Yeah, I am the worst at my fame. So that's our fashion careers that I saw a tweet and it said they're looking for a fill-in presenter and I literally just saw that and I was like, I think I actually read that when I was in Edinburgh. I've dried kind of had this like I'd like any Epiphany that I didn't want to do what I was doing. And so I messaged dhara because daughter works in 98. Actually, I think to our weapons spin at the time. I can't remember my message. She was like Hey, I was like this and I really want to make a demo and try and apply for that position. He was like cool. I'll help you. So he was like just did I can't believe I went into him or if I made I think a baby just did it in my wardrobe. Literally I got into my wardrobe. He was like try and go and like smallest reviewers like the Wardrobe is the smallest. Okay. It's just sitting in there with my like laptop. I think I recorded on Carriage band and I recorded a demo send it to him and he was so nice. He was like, yeah. It's a really An effort things like don't be too disheartened if you don't get this. So anyway, he I put it in I didn't get it. But he did put me in touch with people that made freak FM which I don't know if it's around anymore, but it was kind of like this training kind of small digitalization that used to be incommunicado up and so we put me in touch with them. I started in there and I mean to be honest the person no shade here, but the person I was running it. I didn't feel like actually believed in me at all. Yeah, so that's so hard mentally really really hard because like I was doing like I was doing shows I still show every Saturday morning from like 6 a.m. To 9 a.m. Because that was the only time I could fit in because I was working as a waitress all the other days of the week trying to make rent. So I every morning I used to love it. I used to cycle to like this station, but he never used to like listen to my demos and he'd always kind of give you the same feedback all the time. He was trying to make me into like this like this Chucky like yeah, and I was like no, but I want to if this isn't meant to be a good creative like training ground. We should be able to like explore our own personality and kind of discover. What kind of present to you want to be. And so I used to instead send my demos to dhara and also Steve Kay who works in spin. He's like a legend in terms of radio and Steve Kay is such a nice guy. He's let me shadow him just to watch him in the studio. And so the two of them used to listen to my demos and these give me feedback. Back and they were great. They were just and then have to do that. They were just like and I reach out to them. That was just me being like if you have any time, can you please listen to my demos and then it's such a weird exactly. I've never actually told this story before so I'm like stoked little shit that happened. So these can be like to are checks and I learned so much from the two of them, which was great. I was very lucky that like they were okay with giving up their time to do that then I remember Always asking me if I was applying to other stations because I used to send my demo into this situation in Spain and stuff and you're like, this is like should I say it I've already said spin twice and I never I never got an email back. No, I'm right back to me. I'm like, yeah Fair the kind of you just that's the way she the game. You have to hell. Yeah. I literally met like three hundred people a day and I got one email exactly. That's you just have to put yourself out there. Yeah, and there's a and then one so Steve used or if you're my back every time every week. He'd see me be like who the email today? And so then I was like one day randomly. I was like, oh Mark McKay and follow me on Twitter the other day. He was like, oh really? And at the time I became used to be the head of the to digital stations and RT which is pulse and to accept. Yeah, which now Adam Fogarty is the director of and but the time well, I think I've checked the time Mark had had gone, but he was still like kind of leaving. Yeah. So anyway, he followed me on Twitter and I've no idea why but I started to Steve Kay and he was like mess. Jim and say you have a demo you want to get into radio and you'd love to get into RT and I didn't because I was so nervous. I was like, I don't know I guess I feel and I always I used to have this thing in my head where I used to be like, oh, I feel like I'm not annoying someone by me emailing them. Yeah. I steamed them. We're not going to learn anything or get to know anyone if you don't do that. And so I messaged him and I asked. It for him to listen and he loved my demo. He was like, this is a really really good demo. He was like listen, I actually left now, but I'm going to put in a good word to the new director, which is Adam who actually is now one of my really good friends, but I didn't know him at the time. So he I sent in I said in my demo to Adam and he didn't write back straightaway. It caused in front of us busy, dude. Yeah, but then Mark had messaged me again. Who's like hey, did you ever hear back from Adam? And I was like, no and he's alright me a message. So, um he I'm about to be a 20 and had a coffee. He is like cool so we can start you training on digital on to XM and he was like what kind of show did you want to do? And I didn't really know what the time so I started going in there. I left you in a cop and salad in OT now. I was doing I wasn't getting paid or anything. It was just like me just wanting to learn and so I just go and do I mean afraid of my heart and fortunately as I was just thinking outside he trained me and radio in terms of having to learn how to use all the equipment and the software and he suddenly passed away a couple months ago, but he's a big reason why I like well he is the reason why I and most of our two presenters to be honest know how to do everything. And so I used to his name's Alan and I used to go in like any threats like free time I had so I like be working in a cafe and I'd literally sent him like all these different time slots I had because I wanted to like learn how to use Beating as fast as possible then also I started to kind of get to know everyone in digital it which is in a different area of the is of the radio of RT and they used to always have lunch like on the couches and stuff. And so I started just going and at lunchtimes on my days off. So now I'd like pretending BMX Daddy's perform. I like one hour show and so I used to go in for lunch is just getting to know them and I ended up actually becoming like Friends of the right now. They're like my really good friends like Adam is one. My best mates but like at the time I just was kind of getting to know everyone I used to just sit myself as like a spare computer and just to be seen in there. Do you wanna mean? Yeah kind of show face because I had like, I've got the key card. I was like for works if it gets mad or I'm just going to come in when I can and then from that I was doing it to XM show and I used to do something quite similar to what you do where you interview like people you're interested by I'm so used to have like I had like James Callender and real Horan and like Mesa now, I am free. Then about the time I was like I'm they're really fascinating. Yeah, like I want to have them on so I used to interview them for my show that I used to called Pop-Tarts and oh my God, I love that. Yeah, and I then Adam he had almost like my mentor in terms of radio then and he we like he made demos for me to try and get entertainment news on to have em, and then also I started putting together contribution pictures so like different ideas for like Pieces I could do on different shows. Yeah, and so I put together a piece for Tracy Clifford show because I think Adam has been talking to them and they were looking for like someone new to be on the show. And so I put in thing. It was like a new music thing. It's called the inside track. And so and I've been doing that almost 2 years now and every single Monday, I do that still which blows my mind that I'm they still even want me there. But basically I put together a picture I'd tell like the three biggest entertainment stories of the weekend and I have a brand new track of the week and Yeah, that was basically it and I'm still doing it which is insane. That's a started doing that and then I started putting making demos for entertainment news. So I used to listen to a lot of Ryan's entertainment news and then try and do my own and then basically so I could start covering her if she was on holidays or yeah sick or something. And so that's not happening. She's are getting sick and I was like, let me stick to him like yes, so then whenever I used to like cover her shift and and then just like poisoning her and then so that's how I kind of started into FM. Then there was like there's a couple of spare computers. So I used to just go in like when I wasn't working as a waitress and used to sit there at a computer just to be seen just so they can see your face. You'll be forgotten about yeah, then I started getting cover work. So I used to like 7 a.m. Shows on the weekends look like Christmas cover like the kind of graveyard shifts and But like I wasn't and like that so I was getting paid for this and stuff, but I wasn't making much money. Yeah, it was because I still working as a waitress at the time and then like it's mad I've never said this to anyone what I've said it like it's my mates whatever but like I am so sorry that this is such a long-winded story. But like know I really like this is what I want to do in my life. So I'm literally just like drooling here like it but like obviously I know it's always so different so that's why because mine's just like all over the shop, you know, I didn't go to college. Anything but that's nice to hear for people even if they're not wanting to be a presenter or anything that like if you just work hard exactly. Yeah, and you just like hustling is that she like the biggest is the key thing and I'll sing a networking so then I ended up because I was taking so many shifts off like with like my Cafe job. I used to just be like listen these the chef's I can do next week because I was trying always work it around what cover I was getting into FM because I wanted to put radio first all the time and like they knew that radio was And I was kind of something not to enjoy working. I mean to be honest. I've never enjoyed being a waitress. Yeah, and I'm not saying that as shade I worked in a restaurant like I grew up in a restaurant. Yeah, my mum and restaurant I have mad respect for people in hospitality and I worked in a cafe since I was like 10. Yeah, but I hate it don't like Hospitality in customer service because another worse. Oh my God. I used to work in a daddy and literally like oh, you're just like do you think that this is my life? Sometimes you're like, I'm Minimum wage like so and like complain about something like really high tide, but it's like it's fine. But it's like it's your fault. Yeah, and you're like, are you okay fine? But like I'm not the person I'm obviously not the person that I'm is exactly I believe that everyone should it should be like the law that you have to do have to do it you have to do at least Hospitality or retail me and my boyfriend always say that so that you have a certain level of like Rebecca. Yeah. Anyway, go on. I was just like God I my anger there. So then I ended up I got fired from that job from the cafe. Right which was like so tough for me to accept because I was like what the fuck I'm really good at things because I've I know when I say that I'm not trying to sound like a big head of douche what I mean is I am no matter what job I'm doing. Even if I'm doing being a waitress. I always put a hundred percent into it. Let's go see your parents like, oh, yeah exactly, you know and you know someone's in especially because it was an independent. Isn't that I used to I used to work for Independent restaurants. So wasn't it's not like I'm like, oh if it was a chain fuck you, but I know the owner to only and so but anyway, that's beside the point. I always just made sure I did like a really good job. It was just kind of like this ethos that my parents gave me that I was put a hundred percent into everything also because I just would feel really bad if I wasn't doing a good job. Do you know? Yeah and but end up getting fired from there and it we left on really really bad terms because the person to be honest he didn't deal with that. Well at all, uh-huh. He was trying to get me to leave for a while. I think because I wasn't no wasteful they're trying to get you to like quit exactly. Yeah, like I knew what he was doing. Like that's such an Irish tactic that's happened to so many of my friends really before and even myself. Like I remember I put in I told like one member of Staff once I was going to go to Vancouver because I went to Vancouver few months and they obviously someone find out but I didn't really realize till much later. I was like, why are you suddenly like treating me like, yeah, that's a big garbage. Yeah. It's like yeah anyway, but that was it. It's because I was like really it's also because I was trying to get loads of work in radio and he just was like angry that I wasn't like like a hundred percent like obsessed with that spot. I was working in and so it was really tough though because I was like, I still need to pay my rent like lemon so my hours yeah cutting my hours down so much and I was like, but I was always up for working the weekend. So always work Saturdays and Sundays because I was quite specific with my days off during the Week, but I kind of just had to make it work. But then in a anyway, I can't fucking fired from there and it was literally the worst thing because I was not making near enough money in radio. I was even going it wasn't like a constant job. I even had in there and it's not even like your family lives in Ireland. No. No, I had nowhere like to go and so at the time I just kind of started seeing my boyfriend mango and I remember him I remember the day like I got fired. And I called him straight away and he happened to be like in town and I was devastated we weren't even going out and the time and I was so devastating. He was like you're going to be up. He's like this can be the best thing that's happened to you. Yeah, and I was like, no this isn't a fucking tedtalk hired me and it's like no that's not how it happens. Like there's loads behind sees. Yeah, but honestly, I actually do feel like Like I want to do a TED Talks, I'll be like I literally got fired from my job. And then I started getting more work and radio. Yes bizarre, right? I don't and I was like the universe it was like the universe but also could have been like the fact that I was like I am so up for anything you want me to do in here and also it's like the reason you got fired from your job is because your debt devoting so much. Yeah, so exactly. Yeah, and I also was DJing in crack burn and Joe burger and bear at the time I used to do goes. I was just trying to get as much money as I could to survive, but I used EJ in bear on South William Street. So I remember after that. I was like after I've done like a full day's in the cafe. I had to go and DJ in Bear now. I say DJ I wasn't teaching at the time like this is me trying to become a DJ as well. And I had no idea what I was doing, but they used to let me teach you in there for like four hours on a Friday night and then I used to crack down on a Sunday night. And and how are you teaching yourself? All these things? You too. Well YouTube and then also yeah most of you. To buy mean the first DJ Gig I ever ever did I had never ever touched eggs before in my life. And basically there was this woman who had booked me for eight to play a gig years and years ago strawberry for us and I think the original my boys were like headlining or something and so I was playing music I was playing guitar at it, right? And so I knew I knew her sorry, so sorry about that. I knew her And I knew that she used to book for this venue in Odessa at the Odessa. She used to book their DJ's for there and I was like, I really want to become a DJ but like I couldn't four decks and and even know where to start to be honest and I used to just look on YouTube. Look at people playing on decks and it was climb just like okay and it was so bad at the time. Like I actually it makes my skin crawl thinking that I used to do this and sometimes when people do ask me for advice and they said that they do this I actually like, oh my God, I can't cope. Used to convert YouTube videos to MP3. Okay, because I know where to get music because also I could just bought at Tara that's nice. That's why I do now like some point out I pay for my music down but the time I was just converting YouTube videos series and burning them on CDs. And so and I had like a big city folder. I remember buying the CD case in like Georgia Street Arcade has I couldn't find a CD case. Anyway. Yeah. Well, they don't really yeah like, oh my God. I used to love my CD. Like you put little slips here stuff, like make it all look cute and everything. But anyway, I emailed her and I said, I'm a DJ now. It's like I'm DJ now and I would like to deejay at the Odessa. Yeah, the fucking neck of me. I was like, I'm a TJ now, I'd never ever DJ before in my life. Would that not give you like that enough kind of give you anxiety though. That's Archer. But like I was just fight through that. Okay? Okay, like I've got I've always had massive dreams and I'm like I've been determined to get them and I've never Sometimes I've like like some like I've never let that help me back about I'm scared to do something. Sometimes I was like, yeah, it does give me my massive anxiety, but I know that I feel so much better afterwards and I'll be so happy that I put myself out there I did that and also I prepare for things so much that I can't fail because I know if I do I'll be fucking livid with myself now In fairness this was a fail at the time, but the time I saw it was Failed looking back on it. Yeah, but at the time it wasn't and so I ended up emailing her and she was like, yeah. Do you want a DJ New Year's Eve? I was like, okay. She must be a really good book or not. I think is like I'd like really solid myself. Yeah. I know. Oh my God. Okay cool tars, cool. Yeah CJ and so the galaxies were doing the headline DJ sets and there was a another girl before them and that I was going to be opening up. Like I was like, yeah cool really cocky like going into this like yeah, I'm due dates easy and I arrived with my CDs but I actually right up to the venue two hours before I opened because I just was like, oh, yeah. I just finished waitressing. I just came early I didn't I just wanted to actually touch detect. Yeah literally never touched before I always see that whenever I'm early to anything I'm like, oh so I'm like ready to everything. I'm always like I was in the area. I don't know. Why am I Dying by being early? I never know. I don't know. I'm the same. Well, I'll just sit there and wait. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I'm like a devil for like Dibble. I'm just that's gonna hear word for next week going to be like what a devil she's such a devil. It sounds so creepy said that was so I end up o DJ disco and like 80s and wasn't mixing was even queuing songs like about you come back just like the song would please anyone and then I'll just be like If I drop it and be like oh my God, but actually went really well my guy who was having the time of their life if it's disco and 80s, you're never gonna have a bad. Yeah because you playing all Bankers on yeah, but like, yeah if it's managed so danceable like no no, he's gonna be like, you know, it's yeah exactly. So that was my first DJ Gig and I've come a long way since then but even in terms of like mixing and beat-matching, I'm still like I Isn't really doing much of that until more recently in the last like say six months even because I don't know I'd like I'm still learning as I go to be honest. I'm and like I actually did a gig in the bonus show a couple weeks ago and I was like fuck I've gotten really good even my boyfriend was like shit that's that was really good. But that's because like, I've been really really working on it because I'm like, I actually want to be a really shit hot DJ. I don't want to be typical like, I'm sorry, but I don't be a typical girl DJ that just actually can't properly use the It meant yeah, and I'm not gonna lie. I was like that for a long time and we have to start somewhere exactly. But like then I started to actually when I started to get to know the craft more I was actually embarrassed for myself because I was like, hang on like Mike it's not I wouldn't go and do a performance on the flute and not be able to play. Well. Yeah, so I want to actually be really good at this. That's actually so true like yeah, it's an instrument. Yeah, it isn't its react and so I just I started putting a lot like a lot more work into it. Also, there's decks in OTE now, they're old ones, but I used to just go in there and just practice in the evenings because I was like, I actually really want to become a good like like a real because I'm I know I'm a really good song selector like and to be honest at the end the day even if you can't mix or beat much in my opinion your songs need to be amazing that looks like as long as you're playing deadly music. That's what all that matters. I don't like wine key people that judge someone for like the way that they Blended a song. It's like the reality is that our normal Punta dancing does not care about that. They just want to dance and have a good time. So now I'm a lot happier with where I am as DJ now and I'm a lot like so much. I'm a lot more confident when I go into a gig now because I've really wanted to be like, I want to be like an expert at this. Yeah, but unfortunately I don't own deck. So I kind of had to just keep every time I was practice every time I was doing a gig was me practicing basically. Yeah, I know. Um because I do so many press gigs. It's so easy because they really kind of chill gigs. So that's another place for me to Brianna practice instead of club night. Do you know I mean, yeah. I've got a question again because I kept talking no. No, that was so interesting story. Don't taste like with pretty do you think it's important in radio and presenting obviously song collecting over his head is really important, but would you use do you like mash those skills together? Like would you kind of to be a presenter in radio and have to this property a really stupid question already shirt like have to kind of almost have that DJ kind of mindset. It depends what co-presenter you want to be. Yeah. I that's a really good question though. But so if you want to be like a deed a radio presenter, that is like a song selector mmm. We're like People so okay. You can't really think about it in terms of like set the 7:00 to 7:00 to 7:00 a.m. To 7:00 p.m. Right that's do a daytime stuff. And most of that is for entertainment. Okay, and you've got the same songs that's selected by the music director and you can have a bit of wiggle room in there. But you've got your because like there's different categories of music. There's like category ABC and it's what's on different what songs are on different rotations. For example, Miley Cyrus is nothing breaks like a heart is on. On constant rotation a fucking want to kill the song but that isn't a category song at the moment. Okay doing a lot of AirPlay, but then within that you can have wiggle room. So for example, Tracy Clifford, she has for sure one o'clock swill for and she has she comes in in the playlist is like you've got the set songs that I kind of have to be there. Yeah, but then she adds she puts so much of her own twist on that and she plays so much Irish music as well and she plays like really interesting music to I mean like yeah, she doesn't just stick to them. On the playlist for she is she's a DJ as well. So she actually she and she's a song selected. She wants to create a really good show. But so when you got like breakfast Republic, for example, they are more for entertainment purposes to I mean, so like it's more for they do like really fun games and they've got the crazy Molly. Yeah, they've got like entertainment stories and stuff. So it depends what show you're doing. For example, Dan Haggerty show his show is like 10 o'clock till 12 he He and he's he curates his playlist Louise mcsherry. Her show was all brand new music and she creates hers, but you don't have to be a DJ but it definitely does help in terms of your knowledge of music but like old macdermot. He's not a DJ but he's he's a radio DJ there is a difference. I don't know if I'm answering it properly. I'm no no, I got you because it's it's just one of those it's one of those jobs, I think presenting and being on the radio like even like presenting on the TV or whatever. That a lot of people are like, oh, that's something I'd love to but like people have no idea how to get into that myself included. Yeah, but there's so many people who are interested in it. But like they end up like even a few of my friends in college were interested in that but they're like, I actually like one I went into college. I was like, I don't know whether to do I'd like was like, I just want to be Lou through so I just I just I was like, I love you do film or journalism. I was like, I'll just do film because like I just didn't understand I didn't even research. Entire thing and and so many people are in the same situation. They're like wanted to be like presenters who starts when they didn't have no idea how to do it. So I don't think people even know what like skills. You have to have or like yeah, like what you should do. So if there was steps you could take like say someone's just in college and they want to do that. What would be the best things that they could do? I reckon the best thing they can do is make well basically first kind of figure out what kind of ready So you want to be I ought to - kind of want to be too. Usually you've got if you want to be like a talk radio presenter or music one. So you give me like a big music head where you just like select great music you don't do much talk or you want to be a talk radio DJ where a lot of it is about doing interviews and like having features and having guests on the show. So you kind of want to figure out if you want to do I like both because I love doing all that stuff, but I'm also mad into my music so So I guess you can hold them together as well. But that's what a lot of people ask you. What kind of represent you want to be? What kind of music do you want to play? And what shows do you listen to already? So kind of like have a really clear idea of where you want to go and in terms of radio now, you never know it might change when you get into it, but then also make a demo and then find out who's in charge of radio stations and also get to know other. So even like on Instagram go on follow all the Presenters in all the radio stations in the country. Okay, and I know that's excessive and you can put me at you pick right? Calm down. No, I think I've already done that. To be honest. I said, yeah, but you need to get to know people. Yeah and a lot of the time like these days friendships and networking relationships are all built in lot online. Yeah, and so even on Twitter is amazing for at like is you know, you follow people that work in different fields in times radio or TV or whatever and like say they put something funny up or a video and you Replying you're like or like old so gnarly nice restaurants to go to you and you play this restaurant the you know, like yeah, I do trying to get to know people so it's kind of a networking online start doing that. Okay to know who works in what radio stations and then get to I guess also find what what your morals are. Like would you be okay with being on a station that you are like? Oh, I don't not really mad on it, but I don't care. It's just radio. I just don't I don't really like that. Yeah, I believe people should be in it because they really are passionate. About entertainment pop culture news current affairs and music like you should because you genuinely want to give a service to people not just I just want to be on the radio. It's exactly just want to be famous. I hate that shit and there's a lot of that. I really really enjoy making people laugh and making people happy and that's why I do this. I love making people dance like wouldn't it when I'm DJing I get such a hell when people are like, you know, really into it. Yeah and And that's why they do it and same with radio like I love if someone laughs a joke I make like, you know, it's so yeah, and I love making people happy. So and that's why I do this, but I hate people that just don't hate the odd but like I just don't like yeah, we're like people and people expect like expect thanks, you know, yes such a stupid way to put like something that's like the way more complex than that, but I expect to like to be given something and eventually because maybe they've done this This okay guys, I'm so sorry my camera ran out of battery and I am literally a plague. But anyway, you were talking about you talking about District. Yes. So District magazine when I was fired from the cafe, I reached out to districts and said I wanted to like start working with them. And so I met up with Craig and Eric and started working in their office. And then it was through that that I had a lot of flexibility and radio because yeah, I had a lot more free time. So yes, I would writing for them. And so that was how I got to know a lot of people in record labels and stuff. Okay doing interviews. And I mean they let me do mad and Susan are like I interviewed like Chilli from TLC you introduced leapers. I think she really / and like I was really surprised shout out to Eric that he let me do that one. But like this was this is just before she like just exploded last year and she was so nice. She was really really sound so I interviewed her - see you. Shania Twain, but that wasn't actually for districts. That was for that was like yeah, we were you so nervous. I also kind of Imagine doing that. Oh, look, she's my queen like I love Shania Twain so much. Yeah, and I but I was so dumb so dumb, is that like on the phone? I was like, so basically the way it works is that it's like you call the record label or they call you and you're in the studio and then you wait and they're like, okay, we're going to like patch-through Shania. Yeah. I was like, okay cool. And so they pass through and usually they'd be like Tara meets Nia. Should I meet Tara? Yeah, and they would introduce you. So you'd know that someone's on the other line. They usually also have like music. What's it like on hold music? Yeah, and so I'm sitting there and I'm waiting and waiting and waiting for ages and then I just like car from like yeah right into the mic and then she's like hello. Yes, and I was like, oh my God, it's like speaking to God was that way? I'm so sorry. I just cuff here. Yeah, let's see it even if my hands or my mouth. I just want like into the microphone that she was like sad laughing. I was like, I'm so embarrassed. So embarrassed. I was like fuck this Shania Twain in this was my problem Notions of interview the days that might have been a bit refreshing mortified had no she was absolutely incredible and she's amazing. So I've done some really great work with districts and they also gave me a little platform to like DJ more so And I love them in there and an Airy I still love seeing them. So they're really great space for like creatives and stuff. But they it was great that I was able to work there as well. So but I kind of signed going so busy radio. I kind of had to I started doing more contribution pieces here and there but then I kind of got so busy with DJing then as well, but it's hard for me to find the time. Yeah, but I still want to do stuff with them because I'm just love what they produce. Yeah, there's they're actually so Yeah to finish I actually just was thinking I know this is like so cliche and annoying but how important is like being kind and like courteous to other people and you know, not thinking you're like like all that and you know in the industry, it's extremely kind extremely kind know it's extremely important. Yeah. It's fascinating. It is really really important. Honestly, like I Hate assholes like I fucking hate them with a passion. Mmm. I'm sorry like that. I know as I said those words I was like, wow, I need to relax but you probably think it's just you have anger issues. No, she does not but I feel like these days it's not tolerated in the industry anymore. If you're an asshole, you're not going to get anywhere. Where is that was a thing like yeah, a lot of people that you know, you hear stories of likes a really big people that they're actually a prick. Yeah. I don't think that that's necessarily a thing anymore. Or people just don't put up with it anymore. But I don't I don't like it. I hate it. Honestly, like I and sometimes it's tough when you see someone doing so well, that's actually an asshole. Hmm and they're not a nice person. That's what I mean. Like if you're not a good person. You're not nice to people. I don't think you deserve nice things and I know that sounds so mean. No, it doesn't end mean it's just a really really bugs me. It's one of the biggest thing that bothered me about beat that It bugs me about when people are not being nice being nice is the most important thing. Yeah, and if you're not naturally nice, then I know get a personality change. Yeah, that's what I always say to my boyfriend. I know this sounds it's so weird. But like when when I'm like he's doing psychology, so I'll be like I just don't understand why that person is hurt and he's like, oh maybe and I'm like I know but like it's easy like every day sometimes I'm having a terrible day but never be like rude to someone no and like if I ever was like so like Hello, you know when sometimes like your inconvenience, yes lightest weight. Yeah, and this has specially happens when I'm on my period. I got really bad PMS stuff and I turned to a bit of a demon and so and I mean demonizing like internally like I'll be like enraged at everything. Yeah, but I don't like say it. I'm glad but sometimes even if I'm like, I know if haven't said I didn't say thank you to the bus driver or say thank you for the coffee. I just got Or I didn't say thank you enough for something like that. Right? It'll fucking bug me for the rest of the day. That'll be on like yeah. Look, it'll be on my mind. I'll just be like, oh my God, I felt so bad about that and sometimes like say if I'm like busy at my desk and someone no no comes over and I'm like, hey, yeah good. Yeah like and say I'm young. I'm flat out and I don't have time to talk. I'll feel like it happened at the others week and this girl I know how to his talking about. Okay. I'm so sorry about to do this. Yeah, I fucking felt horrific. Yeah, I had to message. Well, I was like, I'm not trying to make out like I'm some fucking No, I'm the exact same time. So nice. No no, but it's more that like you make you go out of your way and that's probably why you have these amazing connections is because like you go out of your way like, you know yourself. Yeah that like you you get what you give exactly and I just like I messaged her on Instagram and I was like, I'm really sorry that I was such a bit earlier and she was like, no you weren't but like I know I wasn't myself. Yeah, I mean, but yeah, that's it and even in terms of you know, when like you were saying when you feel like you're bugging people and you're emailing them and that's like me right but like the way I've gotten all my contacts is because I reached out to people and even like when I first started probably DJing and to impress gigs, I emailed all of like the brand PR all of the pr agencies and Dublin as like, hey, my name is Tara. I'm a radio DJ into fa mi do the entertainment news. I'm a DJ I DJ R&B hip-hop house disco and cheese pop if we like going for that. Of cheesy Vibe, I would love to DJ at any events you have coming up and you know, I went to the pr agencies that obviously represent brand so I'm actually into because I want to do something that's just completely random but and that's how I started getting gigs. We have been like I'm a DJ this what I do, can you book me? Yeah, and the reason why I've been getting books again is because like, I think I'm pretty easy to work with. Yeah. Oh my God, I feel like I sound like such know you you don't have to talk about this. No, you don't I all its that's it was that's it. Again. That's it. That's exactly what we're talking about your day today just like yeah, like being honest and tell you exactly exactly but yeah being a nice person is the most important thing and if you're not a nice person doesn't just fuck off. Yeah. Yeah, like honestly, I don't like bitches a really don't like bitches and unfortunately, there's a lot of them in life. Don't get me wrong. I love to Spill the tea and bit about people I loved like that. It doesn't but no I mean like if you're not a nice person to people and you remain yeah, that's it. I'm just like not no time for it. Okay and being nice will get you so far. So that's my that's your words of wisdom fascinating. Okay guys are going to leave it there and just to save a little deep up thing. Thank you to do pop for sponsoring this podcast. 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It's me again and that I've gotten so much shit from just me hassling someone and they're like, they're like, thank you for inviting me again. I forgot or whatever. Yeah. It's don't be afraid to put yourself out. They're definitely and putting yourself hustling and pulling us out. I went to London Fashion Week and the way I did was I fuck reached out to all of these people and I was like, I want to come to that show and I just hope the shit out of myself. Yeah, and I even like spoof my way into shows at London Fashion Week. I didn't have an invite for and I just walked up like I was meant to be there and that's that's yeah get shit. It's just you can't expect things just to come to you and that is my rant. Let's keep my no know if you've inspired me. I feel like I'm going to do so much when you leave today. 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Today we learn from one of my ultimate role models, Tara Stewert. From the very start of this podcast I wanted to ask Tara to be a guest, so it was an honour to talk about her career so far (I say 'so far' because this girl has BIG dreams which are sure to become realities). Tara has led the most intriguing, constantly evolving life so far from having worked as a Judge's Assistant when she left school to moving to Dublin to pursue a career as a musician. She tells me about growing up in Alice Springs, a small town in the fairly desolate Northern Territory of Australia, with her Malaysian  Mum and her Irish Dad and their life in their own bar and restaurant. We talk about why music became such an influential part of her expression and life from such an early age to now as a booked and busy DJ and Presenter that's also represented by Select Model Management in the UK. We also talk about how she became such a familiar voice to us in Ireland on RTE 2FM. Feeling at a standstill with her band and falling out of love with what she was doing, Tara saw an opportunity in a tweet from an Irish presenter that would change her career trajectory. With pure hustle and grit she made sure that she was noticed, cycling to the RTE buildings on her lunch break from waitressing just to make sure she was seen. It is beautiful to see how her hard work is paying off. Thank you so much to Depop for sponsoring this podcast! This week I asked Tara what Depop shop she was loving, her pick was @cool_as_kim_deal for great +size options of vintage and pre-loved clothing from the UK. 