Hello all welcome back to another installment of synergist. I am Sam Donnelly joined by the Indie fiend. Cam Simpson Aloha and the man who once made a twelve-year-old Cry by telling him Santa Claus was not real. It is Brad Headley. So so this week we are talking about Ad Astra this movie where Brad Pitt goes into space so sexy man in the sky his pretty face. Yeah. He's getting better with age since you left Angelina. You're truly doing yes room. It's so how's your week been a great week? Stop it. We asked him brother. We just leave it at that. I mean again, I don't really care what Brad's really exciting. Well last week you said I remember you a direct quote was my life's a bitch shit. You know what it's changed this week dude. Yeah. That's what I did was. I went back home back in at the lovely land of anak. So shout out to the Onyx Squad was cringe. Okay, and that we're not cutting that bit out. Family friends birthday and it was went out for a nice little quiz and a few drinks absolutely top-notch night on the quiz. I didn't actually we came last came last was horrific quite embarrassing having a show. That's because I think the highest score was like 70 and then we just came down with 32. So I mean, yeah up your game on besides point. It's beautiful being back and Annika seen the farm scene. Friends. I've not seen him. Months for drive around on wasn't Monday Monday picked up God. This is all really painfully irrelevant. Isn't it? Good God. This is why we never ask a week was great continue sound with however you need to do it. Right? Well, my week's been pretty good. Actually don't care column. What's his? Hello. I've got a question for you boys. All right. I was I was walking down the road quite a while ago and I saw a little dog crying it being run over by a car. I could only imagine that's what happened and I watched it squirming around looking for help and I was the only living thing around it. I could do anything that we use it to pin and the dog looked me dead in the eye and I could see it's anguish and I thought to myself I need to be a hero and it says a little dog's life, but then I gathered some much-needed Clarity and realizing fuck it is only a Yorkshire Terrier and I just walked. Tan Fast but then on my way back the dog wasn't there. It was no one the roof of the garage near where I found it with a bionic leg the leg doubled as a Pez dispenser at this point the dog showed me over referring to me only as Kevin and it said to meet at Eastside accent. Hey, Kev you fancy if you pledge from a new leg leg. I'm not a fancy footwork on out. It's just like necessity. You know what? I mean? I declined The Fez and I'm I returned the following day the garage was gone, and it was no a large-scale office for a company called Doug Pez. I'll walk through the fire and the founder CEO to be none. Other than that very dog from behind me. I had a yeah sure that your friends or your job or summat like so there I found myself working Superior Yorkshire Terrier for 25 years only retiring last week and on the day after my retirement. I walked out of that building and turned around for one final look only to find there was never an office at all. And it was just a garage in the dog was now asking the piss dispensers a hollowed-out banister leg for the Tic Tacs. So I'm trying to say like my question is what's your favorite Seafood? So favorite Seafood - seafood and way crab sure any type of sushi. I Love Sushi. I do love a good bit of crab. If we're talking fish. I love sea bass. I love monkfish monkfish is really nice one lemon salt and under it fish tool. That's actually true love calamari calamari relieved not to the star of the show and the star of the show is crab sticks. In man is shredded. Of course as it as it comes like a sandwich filling in a nice Brown bun stack that puppy up Nosh that fucker down. This is a film podcast. By the way, I like to repeat this. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's the way to get the punters in isn't it? What we just started. So yeah Ad Astra so tell them because this was your suggestion this week. I'd like to ask Ask you first. What was your opinions on the movie? Well Ad. Astra was quite the ride wasn't it? I'm sure we can all agree the first 10 minutes. I was really really really engrossed and I thought it's fantastic. It was the cinematography was fantastic. The effects were fantastic. Obviously. I'll say this now before I get into the depth of it spoiler alert. Yeah spoilers. Okay. Yeah. Yeah spoiler alert. It's in the it's in the title of the episode anyway, so you should know that anyway. At the beginning they basically within the first 10 15 minutes Brad Pitt falls out of the space station, and there's not big explosion and Astronaut or falling ever. It's rain and astronauts Hallelujah, the weather girls that love it and it's it's just shot fantastic. I believed it. I couldn't see where reality and effects met you no one stopped you the began. It was just seamless and it I believe Brad Pitt was falling out of space. Back down to earth. Yeah, it was beautiful. Maybe one of the best opening sequences of a film of same for very long time and that blew my mind and at that point for me. It was a 10 out of 10. Hmm and then he gets back down to earth. It's also a really good and then you find out his dad's in like Jupiter Neptune. Neptune is dad's an fto is played by Thomas Lee Jones Esquire. So we were it was all the great like, oh fuck he's going to go to Neptune of find his dad. This is crazy. Like this is not what I expected them to be and that is what he does, but it's From this point on once you've been given this Mission and then right you're gonna go find your dad on Neptune. This is when the film starts to dip a bit downhill and it just felt like the director would just be and probably the biggest thing you've done so far. Look it's other credits is trying to every opinion is got on society in like so yes society and like the world around him and things are going on. It just seemed like he's trying to cram everything. He's got into this one full in the hopes that maybe this is the last and only thing you'll ever do so you want to get everything into this there was like there was comments on Personal family relationships there was like capitalism. I think there was a man versus God tape. Yeah thing the business there's so many of them was probably about eight or nine like things that he was like trying to reference to and like metaphors and all things like that and I'm Subway in spit on the moon. That was a thing literally my note I wrote Midpoint in the bottom. So I enjoyed the world that he created but I think there was parts that he just included and it did say at the beginning is set in the very near future but there's parts that he included that obviously aren't normal tours and he didn't really explain that. This is now normal in the world that we are such as commercial space travel and it did took you back a bit. We like I was like, yeah. Yeah, it's true before you actually like the flight up to the Moon. I thought was just like a normal not a sociopath I think. I mentioned this is a commercial flight and then offering the hot towels and yeah, it just kind of got me it $32 pillows and blankets. Yeah, what did you think about Brad? Thing is I mean I saw it not even 24 hours ago. So he saw it last night. Of course YouTube. When did you see it I seen on Sunday night. That's our on Saturday. Okay, so I was very behind with it. But I mean, it's still 24. I'm still kind of like taking it in because as you said it is a loss there is either a lot because it's a two and in that two hours. I feel like it never feels rushed which is a good thing. Yeah, but the fact that they he did a lot in those two hours is kind of like I've got a lot to take in but it should be said that because I'm aware that not a lot of people have seen this movie yet and that there should be a warning put out anybody who's listening that this movie is an incredibly slow burn which isn't necessarily a bad thing like it because he It adds to the level of immersion and stuff like that. But if you're one of those people who you know needs like a thrill of minutes or something like that. I say you're probably better off not going to see this movie not to say it's bad. It's just it might not be for you. It is important to manage your expectations when going into something like this. I really like enjoyed the Journey of going to Neptune is never to let you know. I'm really having difficulty remembering. I was your science and primary school out science teacher here, too. To me. He did you just a hinge sexist. Oh God just shut one entry. It was a friendly rivalry was getting from Neptune and I enjoyed the world that they created and I enjoyed the little bits of The Subway on the moon, but I know that the director wasn't saying that in for the sense of the view would be looking at and go. Hello. It's so brother. He done that to be like there's a Subway on the moon. This is ridiculous. It's the world's gone mad. It's capitalism. It's overblown. Everything's horrific. I'm pretty sure Brad Pitt like in his monologue says something along those lines is like we didn't like travel into the Stars. We'd like create the stars as we saw them back on earth like something along those lines when he arrives at the airport and it's basically just Earth. Cuz everything's the same and it's he says like we've traveled all this way to get away from like what we've got at all it's just dads who says that you traveled all this way to get away from our problems on Earth and they've just followers to space and that's what happened with like the subway and I think I think that's a fair point social commentary by the director. We've moved to the space and we're living on the moon and we still bring all our problems there and we're going to ruin we're going to ruin this as just as we've ruined Earth and it's basically that isn't it really? Yeah, but it's just I didn't there was two What's going on? It was a lot and I'll be honest with you like you know, because I was when I was watching this movie it was because it's a very personal experience. You know, when you go to see this because it's like it's not one that you can have a joke about when you're watching it with friends you have so would be engrossed to watching it and I was at like, I mean I kind of agree with you but like I didn't break my immersion as early as you did. Like, I've got it written down here like, you know, I was taking notes as I was watching the movie and the I just written the sentence two words Space Monkeys. That's what I lost as soon as the fuck. Yeah, so like so yeah, they go to you know respond to this SOS and they find out this entire crew has been killed by like rabid monkey Stephen the Spears and I'll be honest with you. There was something about it. I don't know what it was. Maybe it's just because it took too long to move on from that from that event that the movie did. Use me for a good like 15 20 minutes. Whereas it took me a while to get back into it. It was a completely irrelevant Point as well because all that really came from that was the captain of the ship died. So Brad Pitt as a takeover and yeah, and then the the fact that he was the hero the mission didn't really add anything to the story that you could have done without that. He could have just been a passenger didn't really do anything. It's just the way that scene played out. It was just so ridiculous. I mean like this so this guy has had his nose eaten off by a monkey like, you know through his visor and Brad Pitt's Reaction is to a kick the monkey and then sellotape this is is my gaffer tape is going to stay as if that would help. I mean that might have worked in the Martian when he had a crack in it in his in this helmet, but not when the entire thing has been smashed and the guys missing her face I think on there to defend them for a bit being in the Indigo and I feel it's my duty the dude explain. The reason for the monkeys. It is some like space like test plant. Yeah. I understand that. You can understand why there was monkeys they'll be honest it. I for some reason like, you know monkeys and space that's not a New Concept to me. Like it didn't it didn't surprise me. It was just like you really gonna go there and they but like that we think that was the point where it started going a bit ropey Yeah, so column after you saw this movie I asked you if you had ever seen 2001 A Space Odyssey this whole segment that you going to do is I'm going to disappoint you but carry on I'm just well, I kind of already know the answer. You haven't seen it yet. Haven't In it, so I'm just going to say this to anybody who might have seen 2001 Space Odyssey or hasn't seen a vet Brad. Have you seen it? No, so going off on the point that you saying that the director is clearly like no trying to do a lot with this movie. It's very clear that this movie is Kubrick inspired. Yeah, like not just visually but the thematics and stuff like that. I'd almost goes so far as to give this movie a subtitle of 18 A Space Odyssey. Yeah, I just drew means to the Stars. I believe it's in the film actually more like by just like missed half. The thinking was to fell asleep. I honestly think I must have because I didn't mean I didn't hear the about the monkeys and then no fucking a - to a means to the Stars the Stars last more like more like Brad Astra. All right, dude, the Big Planet sticking up for me now for the film that we haven't touched on yet. Yeah. Is the father-son relationship which is like the biggest thing in the middle. Yeah, really really strange and I really odd way to go about it the conflict resolution of the Fall the quest through space and time to go and see your father that abandoned you when you're 16 years old. Now, you're about what 40-something years old abandoned you for 30 years. So you travel through half space to get to go and see your dad and you get there after all of this. You've killed people. Foley being accidentally. Yeah, you've really being killed yourself by space pirates and space monkeys monkeys and space space you get to your dad's house on Neptune. He's a bit of a dick and he goes, right? Yeah Dad you all right. Are you doing here just like your lives around the corner? I was like come and see you then. But I tell you the government wanted to kill you. He goes fair enough. So I mean, you know when I left all them years ago, Oh, yeah, didn't give a fuck about you and I didn't give a fuck about your mom. Yeah, and I mean, why would you do the whole journey that we've been on with this character is waiting to see him be reunited with his dad and Blake called felicium team up and become like Space Police or so and Kick-Ass together Space Cowboys reunions. It's just a dick. Lima project. Yeah, and of course when you go when you're on the ship you see Brad Pitt like going through them. I think one of them has a bag over the head and just see let Pastor the blood course. So yeah, he he didn't just like, you know, turn off the oxygen in a certain sector like he probably did actually move. I was just like I don't care about you. I got a shot up to space craziness. I don't know. I mean because doesn't on the journey to Neptune which takes I think did he say 90 days. It's a long it's a good chunk of days. Can like Brad Pitt socks, you can see you start to go a bit insane. Yeah, so maybe just because he starts being alone for all this time that you just went insane. And I mean the crew he said that the crew went in because they want to go back to Earth but he was like not having it Insanity insanity is a matter of perspective. But yeah, so like talking about like, you know talking about Tommy Lee Jones and like it let's talk about The Supporting Cast as a whole all because on a whole this movie is very much a Brad Pitt movie and everybody else. Even Tommy Lee Jones. They're just take a bit of a backseat Brad Pitt is fantastic in this phone, right? Yeah. I think you can all when it's when the switch sorry to jump in. Yeah when it's such a big star such as like Brad Pitt Tom Cruise Leonardo DiCaprio. I feel like the sign of them put in a good performance is when you can completely forget who they are as real people and you believe they are this character for the to I was just up there. Yeah, Brad Pitt 100% on that. So, yeah, he like he really sold me like I was being like an astronaut. I mean it's kind of similar to like Ryan Gosling and first met like I kind of like it long I kind of like those waiting for I thought you was going to say Ryan Gosling a lot of all I know is just waiting for a little because our action top up because I like that take on astronauts because if you seem like gravity with Sandra Bullock, like she's screaming and hollering like the entire movie but like, you know, if that if that was who she was she would never have made it past training because like, you know, If you're an astronaut, you have to be able to be calm Under Pressure. Yeah, he's a bit off. He's off. His Baseline. Yeah, and it's like yeah because they say like very early on movie that is heart rate is never gone above like a beats per minutes, like even when he's even when he was falling like he's not even screaming. He's just very calm. He's like I'm falling so Is he? Yeah, he just takes it in stride and most people would say that's like an emotionless performance. But that's it's really it's engaging because you know, that's how he has to do it. You doesn't over play it. He doesn't overstay his welcome and he's very he's actually very subtle and nuanced and in this and I really appreciate that like that scene where Tommy Lee Jones is like telling him that he never really cared about him. Like he's not like saying a whole lot of like it. Are you bastard that but you can tell what Tommy Lee Jones is telling him is absolutely breaking his heart. Yeah, but But I know we did I think we talked about this earlier on but I don't think it shouldn't be understated just how stunning this movie looks like it. It's like one of the best-looking Sci-Fi movies. I've seen in a long time, especially when you consider that obviously the majority of it has to be all like CGI and things like that because it's in space. Yeah, it's seamless like I full-on believed I was there in space with Brad Pitt the colors as well. Yeah, the color palette in this movie is Same beautiful end the lighting as well. The I will not be able to remember her name but her parents were killed by Tommy Lee Jones. Yeah, the the manager of the the Mars station miles project. Yeah, the government based on Miles She was first introduced coming through the corridor and like the lights started going out. Yeah. It's like thought was phenomenal and the bit when he was in the hall at the Comm room the lighting in there when they had their projections are on the were just But the first part the first time I noticed that how much I really appreciated the first movies use of color was when he's like going in a rocket to to the moon and it's just like purple lights, you know to help the you know, because it's a very it's very calm helps you sleep and I'm like, I've never seen purple in this in space before. I think he mentions Earth being a marble. Yeah, and you've got like the just them looking up Earth that shot is. Yeah. I feel like you could take you can take very like a lot any really any shot from this movie and it would be you could use it as a desktop wallpaper just touching on that with like talking about nice-looking believable and things like this read some interviews with like space experts because I'm really you're into that really, so I'm not Foot to my research in this podcast and there was a space enthusiasts a scientist. I didn't put that much effort in but a man who really knows his shit about things going on up there. Yeah, and he said this is without doubt it obviously is a Spaceman. So he's seen every space for them because it is interest. This is without doubt the most accurate and the most realistic portrayal of her journey to space. There's ever been put to cinema. I think that Rings true, I mean obviously I'm not a space enthusiasts, but I've seen a lot of space movies That's on the space station is David Bowie last week. We were singing the like three different David Bowie songs, and so you No who i'm honorees in the space station. He sang David Bowie song Joong ho more about think I'm at a loss right Focus. So he's an ass is National and space station. I think I know you don't yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah either leaves drinks. He like goes to put that drink down but course he's used to zero gravity and he just drops it and they all the things like that and the shot when Brad Pitt finally lands on Earth and he goes to get out. The craft we just Keys legs collapse. I thought was brilliant because of course he's been in zero gravity for overtly a couple of couples good we use chunk of time. Yeah. So the fact that it showed like he's legs collapse just a small little details like that's brilliant and that kind of and I can lends itself to the World building in this movie because I know he's saying that there were a couple of things that went exactly explain but I really appreciate just how how real a lot of this seems like it just seemed like the next step in Our like our world in space travel. Yeah. Yeah. I just I thought yeah, so like on the technical staff like if you're looking at this movie technically, it's great. Technical absolute technical Masterpiece. I'd go that's fair. That's fair. But that's the technical side. Yeah the story this year. The story side is packed. Oh. Explain, I don't know I'm saying dare, right? So the time in terms of what is the par and why is this so bit? I think she just because it's I'm saying just because it's very busy. You're going through space to find your dad. I just think that in itself is a big old metaphor, isn't it? Yeah. It's like yeah, he's literally he's literally trying to find his dad but also like emotionally try to find his dad and he's also becoming his dad. I can't like that like thematically go to the ends of the Earth for you. I'd go all the way and watching for you. I'm putting this in quotation marks killed a few people accident. So you like that way is because he murdered people he did murder people. Like he says I'm not I'm not my dad. I'm not going to become that man. Yes, he's as he's on the way like to the journey. I think this is like your second stop when he says it's someone like I don't want to be who he is to us is sadly start off on the journey like all my dad's a hero. I really can't wait to see him again. I want to be just like him and then on as the journey continues he finds out more stuff about him is lame. This isn't the man. I thought he wasn't this isn't who I want to be. Expectation vs. Reality. Yeah, exactly. I think if you've got family issues and you what you're watching this, I think that we'll probably going to be a really relatable film award to like to see probably gonna break you down. Yeah. Absolutely. So my dad just popular shots for 17 years. Is that pop the Neptune 4:30? Yeah. I was joke calling some that's right. I'll take the lead on this inconsistencies and inaccuracies within the film me and Lee all at the end which I can only put down to he spent about six months right in the film. It gets to the end. He's like just looks like a Runway rushed ending. Yes rushed ending yet. So we've got no I know exactly what you're gonna say here. Yeah. My dad's drifted off into space. I've only hooked myself and then oh, no, I'm also floating around in space. I'll just I'll struggle my legs like I'm swimming and I'll get back to the little space what he did and then oh, no, I need to get back to my spaceship over there, but there's no tether for me anymore because I just fucking jumped out my pod and just swam into my dad's house on Neptune and now I've lost my iPod. So I need to get back to my spaceship that'll lift over there. What should I do? I know I'll climb on top of the little wind turbine on top of his own. I'll pull the metal panel off. And I push myself on my feet in the force of that will get me through an asteroid belt. Yeah bullshit just float me nicely. Like that's all the asteroids that could probably murder me it'll just land like realistically even if you've got protection that you would bounce right off that like you would be out of there right here slightly. Yeah, you're not the Indie guy. boosters, I mean maybe I was always under the impression until I seeing this that But you're in space. The worst thing that could ever happen here is to become untethered from where you are because you're just going to float off into nothingness. Yeah, and this happens to him about three or four times and you always find his way back to where he wants to be. That's a fair point. Yeah, I think in a sense the way that I saw the movie is that like all the typical problems that you see in a lot of space based movies that you know might cause tension like cheap tension. They kind of just like disregard all that like, I mean, there's There's never a seam where like like for example when he's getting attacked by the Pirates like Brad Pitt his suit get shot or something like that and he like covers up the whole like almost instantly so I kind of took it as yeah, I mean, you know how in a lot of other space movies how if somebody gets a cracked visor? It's a big like five minutes scene of always he gonna die or not. They kind of just like they're kind of just like now we're not doing that. We're not going to you know force that tension on you it like the the problem is not is Vic's it's more of the allegorical and thematic story that we're going through here. You don't have to worry about the statistic the scientific well as lends itself to the also does a fantastic job of building up character. Yeah, when like is its peers and I'll fix problem straight away. It shows like hole which an experienced space money is yeah. You don't send a guy a Neptune if he's incompetent where nobody builds that only believe and that's what I'm saying of the point of all these really big actors who take on these And you forget that who they are and you truly engrossed in the character. It's then that's the little nuances that it does like that like the fiction problems really quickly or the heart rate and like stay in Campos when he's falling through the sky and things like that that all adds to this world and makes it believable and really helps you remove yourself in it. So in that way then a fantastic job and if it was more of that and less of the tackle and all of the big stage world problems that the try to get in there metaphorically and otherwise, it would be a much about film that was and obviously that that did kind of knock the movie point was for me and especially like in a car like talking about is yeah, you're right. I mean, I think this movie was Maybe a bit too ambitious nothing wrong with them bishan for sure. But yeah, there was a couple of things like like like we've already discussed I couldn't really get behind and was thought was a bit bit much. It's just that too much to say I think for what the film was it could have been like the slowly spread over sequels, but other movies, but for the directors on like personal point of view could have been put in other movies like I'll reference one of your Her films Lalo so LOL and directed and written by Damien chazelle, correct. So who also did Whiplash blush so you can tell those two movies have both very different stylistically, but they're both telling similar story surrounded with in the same sort of theme article point, but they but they touch on different elements of those thing up the mounting points in different movies. So I'm saying they could have done something similar to this where they did in Ad Astra they cut they tackle. A few of the issues that they're doing in this movie, but the other ones that they wanted to do, maybe do another space movie and just see what happened. It was a lot wasn't it of like things that mean think like all the things and I was just amazed by the fourth or fifth one when its leg. Like consumerism commercialism capitalism and personal relationships. Were you your father and like almost like your it just became Insufferable. Yeah, really, but it doesn't grown. It doesn't change the fact that this movie is like it is atmospheric as all hell and it really does like you get sucked into it sucked in as you both know that unique. I'd like to my son that I like recording this. So I paid very close attention to this film sound and I have to say it was fucking phenomenal. It was yeah sound when it was needed and then the lack of sound. Yeah, it was all just phenomenal and like the soundtrack The just like the five that was slightly course space. You don't hear anything space final frontier. Yeah Notions of or you just don't like here the cause I'm seeing caught the buggies other bookies. Yeah space cars race cars. Yeah. It's basically His bookie things you don't hear them. You don't hear the pirate crashing of the solar panels on that point the when you get taken into the recording studio and it's really really really really soundproof to the point of every inch of it is like thick with padded reminded me of like there's an Austria. It might be a nice treat them like the world's quietest room. Yeah, you can get your blood flowing through again. All you could hear through that was Brad Pitt to there's no skull there was nothing else. It was just Brad Pitt like all you could almost feel like you could hear his breathing underneath it as well. Like if you really inside his mind because of course the first message was more like practically. Oh, yes the second one you could just see that was him being Like least I've come on man. He's done a fantastic job. And I think when you put it like that and how hard that must have been when it's literally just him and ignore the distractions for the viewer and you just focus on what Brad Pitt can do ya do we think Oscar? Mmm, I think I mean, I think I think it might be a bit too. So it's a very slick I said earlier. It's a very subtle performance and I think it might pass a couple of people by I think oscar-worthy for sure. Yeah. I'd like at least at least for a nomination. Absolutely. Would it would he get it? I doubt it. I think this is a Ethan Hawke and First Reform situation all over again. He got the nomination. It was a fantastic performance and it's the sort of the the same performance. We're too emotional and it's real like Powerhouse performance, but then it just gets overshadowed by the bigger movie in the end. Well, I think I think Brad Pitt's I mean I might be, you know making this up, but I'm pretty sure Brad Pitt said that he's not actually going to be campaigning for this. Movie to go into the Oscars. So in a sense you can take away with he deserves it but he's not fighting together it but I do agree that this it's one of my favorite performances of his and given that like, you know, Brad Pitt he's been around for a while. He's one of the most recognizable faces in all of Hollywood. He's been in like every movie ever made. This is first film since split with good old and we just did I once upon a time in your life. It's a low profile and then he's really.just came back this year with Once Upon a Time Hollywood and then literally like a month later. I had a stroke and the board absolutely fantastic for yeah, but considering that like, you know, Brad Pitt has one he has won an Oscar before but on but as a producer hmm, I think that was a 12 Years a Slave maybe. Yeah 12 years. Yeah, but he also produced it. But yet like I it might be one of my favorite performances of his aside from his relationship with Angelina Jolie. Mr. And mrs. Smith. I haven't I've got it on the on the fact of his former flame. Let's not forget the Caster's it Liv Tyler as the wife. I I'm gonna go out on a limb and say this she did nothing. She looks very much like Angelina Jolie. And do you think that was a point that Brad Pitt other than influencing green with a woman with big lips and brown are just so I can remember what I wanted. I mean, what's so Liv Liv Tyler? I I do not like looks I'll actually the yeah, it was Liv Tyler. I've actually got this written down in my notes as I was watching. The movie The Fourth point that I wrote down was Liv Tyler always looks like she's crying ha ha ha and bear in mind. She had only been on screen for about two minutes. And yeah, I'm not finding it did seem pointless cussing like a well established actress in a brawl. That's small. Well same with like Donald Sutherland and yeah, yeah. No, he was really good though. Yeah, it was good. I mean cuz what HUD start having heart problems and then tree I think essentially died before Brad Pitt took off from the Moon Yeah, and fun fact for you Donald Sutherland and Tommy Lee Jones with two members of Space Cowboys. Wow, and I can't help but feel like that was intentional. We've been talking about it for a while now, she'll be gone at some facts and stats and trivia Etc. We absolutely shall. So as always we start off with the box office and as Austria has been out now for approaching on a month or about 5 days off a month. Yeah and the budget for Ad Astra to the stars in English was 87 million 87 million eighty seven and a half million dollars and in its opening weekend USA. Remember we need to remember this is not the joke of this is not a blockbuster. This is very much an indie film. It's got some funding and some links from some big there's some big companies but predominantly this is an indie film. Yeah and in its opening weekend that made 19 million. In u.s. Dollars that was on the 22nd of September and so far worldwide. It has made 120 million. So it's it's smashed its box office not as much as as the joke it is or as but you've got a member as well. You've just said it isn't it's an Indian for an indie. That is fantastic. If you thinking about this directors filmography like I mean the most notable film that he's ever made. So his name is James Gray most notable film that is ever made the lost city of Z starring Charlie Hunnam and Tom Holland who again His best friend. I absolutely hate the good you don't talk about me. Yeah. Listen Zach Jennifer. Yeah listening Zach you fucker. But yeah, we're following the street this to him. I want an army gone for Zac Efron and Zack if you'd like to come on the show. If you'd like to even contact me in private. I want to know why you're such a little sniffle and dick. Oh that's getting clipped and put onto Twitter. But yeah, so considering this Guys filmography. This is you know, this is another league for me. I'll get an A in a star like Brad Pitt's gets a budget really budget like this big. Yeah big deal because lost city is e we could just call it a warm-up. Yeah sure and then the rest are all really what skewer. So I would ask you kelan being the Indigo. Would you like to see more of this guy if he's going to be going in this direction? Absolutely. Yeah, but if this is a one-off sort of thing mmm, I mean, it's the most successful movies done so far. Oh, yeah it so if you're not going to want to not repeat that so obviously he's basically only had two Heavy Hitters so far and if it's a toss-up between is this director going to be going down the route of lost city of Z or Ad Astra if he's going to be doing more stuff along the lines of lost city of Z? No, no, Duster, he's got himself into a niche that only a few of the directors and he's in like the Mel Gibson territory and the Damien chazelle territory and in terms of the aesthetic and the colors and the the the direction and if you can keep a lot Mel Gibson and Jimmy salt obviously some of my favorite directors you can keep that up you can work is with that little group removing all go flip tea parties and kiss each other up Frank and Benny's kiss each other only on the cheeks. I thought oh God that tickles me. So yeah join get some more facts and see if I can start will give a very very very large mention honorable mention to the cinematography Don that is height van Hoy De Mer so nice to Liam's and twice. He has done the cinematography for don't cry. Okay Interstellar Let the Right One In and her the Joaquin Phoenix joint. Yeah. This guy's got a pretty he's got a good few notches on his belt a stick fantastic is resident. It is it like it is is something to behold. It's recommend if if anything we've says an in any way an interest to you, I read would recommend going to see this in the cinema. Absolutely. Can there was a just to touch on it briefly. There was a point like when you think about being immersed in what you're watching just to go back to the phone really quickly. There was an end point that I think it's just after Brad's propelled himself off of the space junk and he gets back towards the the spaceship and he goes off into the night and the camera just stays for about what seems about 2 minutes and you just see the stars all over the screen and the special gets smaller and smaller. Like a little Flash and then that combine to the little Spotlight in the cinema really makes you feel like you're in space with him and it brings the screen out into the I feel like that was intentional because ignoring the dinos and setup of the room and it just really brought another level to it and it got you invested more than it would for like a full mile couldn't wasn't set in space in the using it to their advantage. Absolutely Mmm Yeah, my not know I think that's a fair point and very very thought-provoking can thank you. So if Else we want to talk on what you want to get into the ratings before we get there. Well, I'm sorry. I just I found a crazy credit on IMDb which is quite interesting though the 20th Century Fox logo plays at the beginning bum bum bum bum bum bum bum, but when that happens, there's none of that shit. It's The logo there's no fun 400 crazies luck, but I got to say it was worth it just to hear us sing and you never got in the movie. But if you want to come and watch our podcast after yeah, you've got it from us. You don't have to see the movie today. We are giving you what folks Couldn't Write fine starts Quan start their ratings as woman go on. Oh, look, there's a there's actually a quote from the director there. It's talking of 2001. So it's clearly the direct influence James Gray has said this is as I said the space people also said the most realistic depiction of space travel and it's described as sort of like if you got Apocalypse Now in 2001 a giant mashup friends this week. Because of your phone column, you should go first. Yeah, I'll go first chef's kiss all day long. I'd ask her to the stars for me. Get a very very strong. It's pork and it's foot in the next Camp. It's a very strong 7 out of 10. It would have been a 10 out of 10 if it wasn't so heavy on the ulterior motives than the messages. It was transcend. Oh, yeah, Brad. Okay. I'm kind of old. The same - column here. You know what? I'm just going to go straight. I'm going to say something with them as well. Yeah, like the chief basically hit the nail on the head. It is a really good film but the story is just too fucking heavy. Yeah. It's like you both both of you said like it is a lot world and have a lot to talk about on his podcast. And yeah, I can see why because there was a lot of stuff to take in. So yeah, that's why I'm giving it a 7 out of 10. This pains me. Course, it means there's probably going to be lower than Georgia unless some decides to give it 15 out of 10. Well, I'm not allowed to do that. Right? So I'll be honest with you when I saw this movie. I was kinda like when I walked out of it. I was I felt like I was just like on another planet or something like that. It was like a it was it was a very impactful viewing experience for me. It is a slow burn but I'll be honest with you. I actually like a lot if it's done right? I love slow Burns and fax a lot of slow. Burns are in like top 10 moves of all time. So that's great visuals are fantastic. I love the very the subtlety of the score. I think Brad Pitt was fantastic. I think all the technical elements of this movie are outstanding, but the script is loaded as all hell and a lot of the side characters really do take a bit of a backseat to the point where wide where you're asked why is there so many Known people in this movie for what equates to about 10 minutes of screen time with Brad Pitt and yeah it the themes of this movie tackles while necessary and important kind of do a compromise each other when you cram them all into one movie, but that being said, I think I'm going to give this an 8 out of 10. Hmm. Yes. Do you know what means columns just crawled into the good bin? I wasn't it's literally because thank you. I was going to propose a rule change if it didn't get into the beer. I advise if you're a Sci-Fi fan go see it. I would recommend actually just saying it as if you just if you're a fan of really good films as well as yeah recommended if you found a Brad Pitt. Yeah to check it out. I think it's just if you're a fan of James Gray from Los it easy go check it out. Crosses the fuck. This story is very heavy. Yeah, I think I'm really good. Yeah, it's not it's not it's not bad. It's actually really really good. It's just that one aspect makes it sort of border on the edge of pretentious you makes you feel a bit icky. They don't need this so so it's in the good bin. It's in the good but not so she'd been so I'm going to end this by asking you all. So Ad Astra space moving to the Stars. Yes space movie. What is your favorite space based movie of all time of all time? Should this is this would probably be up there with in my top five now. Okay, because I'm not really a space fun. But this had such a quite a compelling story that it was it was more than a space for them so that I definitely put that up there but as for a definitive favorite of all time, hmm Really really tough question. I probably have to go first month again on the Damien chazelle hype train, but that is similar to the Ad Astra in the sense of it looks fantastic. But in terms of cinematography the reason I put this as my number one Spears film is because this might be my number-one film of all time in terms of the look of a fillable saw the color palette the cinematography the set design Productions that everything about it was gorgeous. So great first man bread funny enough. I was going to say first one also, but I feel like I've got a come with a different angle. Yeah be original. I will just say first one very good specialist, but if we're thinking of another space film, I think the one that I really liked and I don't know if it's been mentioned this podcast Interstellar, right? I really liked that film same cinematographers Ad Astra into the stars, but I'm working my part of pick one right Samuel I'd say it's a toss-up between Apollo 13 and Star Trek and Star Trek 2009. Oh, yeah, all of us just told Star Wars or suck a fat one there. No one gave a fuck. You know II was just completely forgot. No, I knew I had it in my mind. I was like, I'm not saying Star Wars. All right. So what now next week's film so it is spratlys Choice relieved and for the lovely warm bed the lovely 16 tug duvet that is indeed somu we're going over to the rocky. No man's land. That is Blockbuster. So you guys were heard this but color remember what I taught you before I've got a surprise for you. No. Yeah, so originally I told column we're going to watch a film called because I should also point out because my week doesn't land on Halloween. It's columns we can but it's spooky Seasons. It's a good surprise for me. Probably not be any worse than slaughter house rules. So I thought you know what? I'll find a good horror, which I like and I was originally going to go for Ghost Stories. Hmm But Then I thought it's the spooky season. I've gotta find something that color was terrified of and I know that just one thing So next we commitment look at me in the eyes when I say this. Next week's film is Baywatch. Spoiler alert, it's going to be in the shipping. It's going to be at the bottom of the ship bit because you're gonna give me a lever bleated in the ship in. I tell it we want RIT the film actually because we know where it's going to be will instead rid Zac Efron's performance against the rest of his performances and we'll see if it can get even before every other piece of shit. He's made you fucking there's a bit sexy man. This is good surprise for you. It's not a good surprise for a good surprise. Broken mock pick the one-way players sexy serial killer. Yeah. No, I thought I'd go worse for you. Go worse for you. It's a horror, isn't it is a hurry at all, right. All right. So this has been episode 2 of synergy else and I would just like to say quickly before we leave thank you to everybody who has tuned into our first episode and we appreciate your continued support. I completely forgot do this in the first episode. So make sure you do it now. Thank you to my good friend Zach for letting us use his music and the True fantastic intro that we've got it to Boppers the kids. Ooh. Yeah, it's a bob and plug in the socials blue in the social as you can find us on the gram ice in each Jost. You can find us on Facebook signature at SUNY jealous if you do the up thing, but I don't think anyone really does that now you just type in the search bar. So you jobs podcast Twitter that's things that silly Jost and you can find all of our streaming services if you've listened to was on Spotify or you listen it was on some weird one like pocket casting you're like, no, I'm not really sure what world I've stepped in a way. 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We have been talking about Ad Astra. Be sure to tune in next week as we watch Baywatch. See you next week. Good night.
*Spoilers* CineJoust 2: Electric Boogaloo! Here we are once again delivering the madness to your lugs. This week we tackle the wild ride that was Ad Astra. Find out a dark secret about our very own Brad and I don't just mean that he's from Alnwick, hear about 20-year-old Callum’s 25-year long career before the podcast started, as well as his strange relationship with his year 11 science teacher and his unfiltered hatred for one Zac Efron and we'll see if Sam manages to get through this episode without getting derailed with conversations about seafood *Spoiler Alert* he doesn't. We aren’t called ‘The film podcast not entirely about films’ for nothing! In this episode we slice and dice Ad Astra, getting deep into its orifices. Quite a lot to say on this one, its been getting quite a few comparisons to 2001: a space odyssey but does it deserve it? it’s a crazy ride filled with the typical shenanigans to be expected from us. So buckle up as we take you to Neptune, or at the very least hang about and we’ll tell you what Ad Astra means, knowledge is power and all that. Sh*t Bin or Not Sh*t Bin? Listen to find out. Don’t forget to follow the fuck out of our socials. Find us everywhere @cinejoust. 