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Well, I'm from Arkansas no offense, especially to one of our loyal commenters, California, Arkansas who is either from Arkansas and now lives in California whereas from California and now lives in, Arkansas, Don't know. We don't know we'll find out anyway, look if you haven't guessed by now. I'm hilarious and Pete is here. And I do a lot of funny shit on social media where I make fun of my children and parenting because parenting sucks. We love our children. That's what we could hate parenting. Right? We do this. The one thing we have in common that and are striking good looks very different and are like a yin and yang thing with our looks I'm dark your light you're taller how tall. Are you I'm six-three. Oh, wow, you are significantly taller than you. Congratulations. I'm proud of you. If I am 511 bitch watch it top five to as my wife. Well my wife's if I find that my mom five to nothing my wife loves more than when I accidentally confuse her for my mom. She loves it, you know, especially when you it's her cake, it's one of her favorite kids. She's like, I've I have accidentally called her mom and that's begun. No, it's more like where I've said where I'm referring to her as my I'm trying to save my wife, but I'm saying my mom because let's be honest. They Serve the same purpose. Okay, this point you switch from one to the other long as you don't call her my mommy my mom and no you wouldn't I wouldn't do that. I don't that's not I think you take that back. You're not. All right, you're fucked both ways. But when you call her mommy you really that's really screwed. No, that's the end of the line the end time to get out. Yeah, you're right and I will piss off Nigeria because I did a tweet once where I said grown adults who call their parents mommy and daddy freak me out and it got picked up by a very popular like Nigerian Twitter Instagram. Graham account and it's a cultural thing. 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Congratulations. I hate it. Do you I trapped you a trapped you into knowing what it was just so I could say I think that thing sucks now just my wife loves. I don't think it sucks. I just don't care what I think it's great. I think it's good. Do you love it? My wife loves it Richard O'Brien. You're right about that. That's like the he's in it. And then he also became the crystal master in Crystal Maze. So I don't know what that is makes Crystal Miss. Don't worry about it people in England do oh my God. Yeah, I can't see would have got to do. Oh my God. Nobody needs that they do no one wants it. They do an Australian in England. And anyway, yeah, we got where's Australia come into this? I got we got listeners. Don't worry. Okay. Well we do because we were been big in Perth. I was on West I was in that Perth radio. Interview. All right. I really need a lot of people that pick up Perth big day for me Big Ups to worth. What do you mean you alienated people would you stop being myself is people know this you've seen me in action point I came in today and I said, hey Nate and I said something shitty to Nate and he said is this how we're starting to like it? So we always start Amanda. I'm a shit at that's funny. All right. So this week we're going to be talking about inheriting then versus now, which is essentially the way our parents parented us and the way parenting happened. 40 50 60 years ago versus the way we pair in our kids now are you I'm pretty old. I just very I take the Oil of Olay versus how we parent now and standards have changed Trends have changed the world. You know what the world has changed the world is a vampire Billy Corgan said that yeah, so this has been a pet topic my man ain't here for a while. I was really into it. So I'm in fact he put some somewhat disturbing know that our notes for this one. So once you get in, all right, first of all, Paul who remembers milk cartons with a child's photo on it every single person who's seen an episode of stranger things. Yes eggs, or where's Barb who grew up from stranger thing? Oh, yeah who grew up in the 80s? And that's yeah. Well the point is is children went missing. That was literally that was before milk went down all the time. Yeah. The point is it was way more. So everyone was like, oh there's so much better back then guess what? You people would go missing. In on a daily basis not true. First of all, it is true. You know why I drank a lot of milk. Yeah lot of different kids on those cartons God every week. So I have this. Oh motherfucker two things. I went into here first. I was terrified of being kidnapped as a child. It was like my number one fear. Okay, right. I was just for whatever reason. I don't know. I like your personal fear. Your mom's know my personal fear. Like I had nightmares about being kidnapped. I don't know why maybe because I saw the tape elegant Judd Hirsch classic. Without a Trace with a fantastic they like drop you off and like no keep going. Yeah, they wanted me to get can never never worked out for them. I wrote a meme about that. I wrote a meme about that there I said I keep reading about these kids getting kidnapped in the news and I'm like why can't anything good ever happened to me people got mad. That's mean you want your kids to be kidnapped. No, I just want them to go wait for a while. Like a lot of want them to be harmed grateful when they come and come back a different person but like an adult and successful. So there's my other issue is I don't think it was more dangerous. That's the only way they'll become a successful person his if it is. I was drinking my MPS. Yeah delivers him back yet. So I don't think the world is more dangerous. Now. I think what happened is we have more access to information. The world is so flat we hear and we hear instantaneously about every bad thing that happens. We're more scared. It's not that the world is more dangerous. That's I think that's true. That's what I was trying to get to which is we know so much more now, right? We know first of all, it's true Pluto is not no longer a planet right the dinosaurs. We figured out that they died from a meteor cigarette smoking. Yeah, I'm that Far Side comic but also we have so much more information out. And the reason that I believe we are more of let's let's like a tentative or what have you is because or like, you know helicopter parents right here, you mean about that interests me is because we're like, oh, yeah all the time people will get will get add. Our anxiety is high exactly because of what we're not healthy what we grew up with. Whereas our parents our parents what they grew up with is like sure. Come home. Everything's fine. Who cares by Wednesday? Yeah exactly what we're gonna get into that with. Okay Freedom that we did and now it's like where's Tommy? Yeah, if I don't hear from you in 10 minutes, I'm calling the police me while I was at a restaurant the other day if I could. Yeah. Listen this I was at a restaurant the other day. This kid had his of the Thai restaurant. This kid had a skewer with chicken on it. We were outside. This other couple was have it with had their dog their you told this fucking story already. Yes. He did. He told this one of our episode and your sister went up in our your daughter when I was like being nice to the kid and that's why I was like the fucking parent was completely oblivious. It was so irritating because maybe that parent had traveled to the Future from the 80s when she when they were less anxious. Maybe she's your aunt. She is my aunt dark check it out a Netflix uses to available now, it's in German. It's dub, but you don't notice that dubbed its subtitles what you did you watch it dubbed. Yeah. Holy shit you washed it dubbed I No, there was another option. What do you mean you did read the subtitle? It just came out W. So stupid. I know it just I can't watch it. W it took me five seconds. I'm like, this is embarrassing. I'm switching to subtitles immediately. I can't bear this you didn't you were like, I'm good with this. I was like you make me sick proud. Well, sometimes you know what maybe if you don't repeat a story next time anyway, I'm talking about parents watching their goddamn kids and that never used to happen and now so here's something even bigger. You've been weave. We now as parents have a psychosis about where yes, everything is like, where are you going? What are we have anxiety, right anxiety because all these stories of all the murdered children that we might live through with the milk cartons as we're trying to they were all murdered. My God most. I have a question for you though with the chicken satay ties the skewers. Yeah. Here's the here's the thing that happens a lot these days right is thank you. It's not so much that like the parents are paying attention. It's that you right where there are other parents. Who were Like somebody but if they can get that kids of the disease to this young couple was sitting there with the Gunners. I love it. The the owners of the cat the dog on the leash and then the dog is a pet friendly place and the dog was like way in the back was all fine. And this little piece of shit, which is the only way to describe him comes over about the food or the child with the child again goes over with a skewer so the dogs confused because it's got food on it, but also its sharp The Sword and then It's the kid sits down it the kids that's down and was a penny wise and no well, I'm gender-fluid, you know, so we sits down and the kid the the couple doesn't know what to do. They're like a couple owns. Yeah, they're like, you know, can you don't want to yell at the first of all, they're like grabbing the job making sure the dogs cool the guys that lying down kind of dog. It was just like a Labradoodle. That was a good, you know, Reggie Watts and kind of mix of some kind. I don't know. It was a mutt. That's what they call mixes great. So eventually like we're watching the scene at my daughter's I'm like, oh my God and my times I got this and she goes takes the kid I'm like proudest moment.. Walks this asshole kid with the skewer chicken satay who lets it kid with a three-year-old with a chicken satay skewers just like are you going to go over there? Okay, cool, but you're talking about the but this is the thing if it was your parents in the 80s, they would have fucking let you feed a hundred dogs. I know but I kind of wish give a shit. I look I what I'm saying is most kids did. Did not deserve to be on that milk carton couple that kid did the kid with the chicken satay skier? Maybe you know what? No, I'm telling you. That's why I wasn't kidnapped. She was the kidnappers didn't want my ass. There you go skids fucking annoying and he's very pessimistic and I don't need his negative attitude your well also, you know, we also know more to your point about like we have all these apps, right? So when we moved into our neighborhood on you have this thing here, you said we have sex offender registration apps. I don't have one of those you have that on. Phone I am I a bad parent because I don't have a sex offender registration at my phone. It's not an app. You can look at that and you can just look it up. Yeah, but I've never done that. I don't need to know this. Yeah. Yeah, you got to do it. I don't need to know this. Well as a parent you probably should too much information is it much but at TMI, but you're also saying that all the information is giving us anxiety. You were surrounded by sex offenders when you were a kid you had no idea honestly, I had pretty good. Yeah, mr. Wilkins exactly. Thanks. Mr. Had no offense to mr. Han I'm just trying I was saying like the shorts I were intentionally tight you were just talking about my child ass. So who's the sex offender? Listen? I'm not offended by anything. You said earlier the first so but you know what? I mean, like now that we have all this information we can look it up and we're like, oh my God and then so yeah might now that adds to our anxiety TMI, it says stands for, you know, not on social media that but at the same time too much information, it's bad for us. I get it, but I will I will say there is a park that our kids go to I know it that. Well, I know that there's actually a large population of people that are registered there and I'm it we at the park no, no there in the air if near that area. So when you go to the park, you're like on alert. I'm you have like mugshot to they include photos of the people. What I do is when I'm on my phone for 40 minutes at a time. I'll make sure that whatever I'm reading or watching this really entertaining. Yeah, so you're not worried. Yeah, take yourself out of it. By watching some nonsense escape and just let and let my kids and if I hear a car like beeping like screeching to a halt you make sure my yeah, so no, I am more conscious. I think it's funny that you talked about you had this whole list of a more information on the sex offender thing and you like highlighted that in your like really into talking about that like chill, but but you mentioned mobile phone to change the game so you would think aside from all the information we get from mobile phones. You would think that like you can set the like GPS trackers, right? They give your kid has a phony good. All them everywhere, but you can we're still don't give their kids anywhere near as much Freedom, even though we basically have these digital yolks on them at all times. Right? So the first topic I want to talk about the way things have changed is the safety topic. Would you just kind of got into a little bit right where parents were a little bit less concerned? I think back in the 80s and you're saying it was because they were ignorant. Yeah because it was like I'll go and play and then but it was like that's when all the kidnapping have you seen sure detective all the kidnapping. I have all three seasons. And you saw second one? Yes. It wasn't very good. I heard this third be I'm a big Rachel McAdams Stan. The third one is hand standing out. That means nope. You don't you know the Eminem song Stan. We're like the psycho kids writing him letters. It just means like a die-hard fan and it took me a really long time to figure out that that's what stand means. So if somebody says that your Rihanna Stan, I literally like responded to a tweet and I'm like this. I'm like withstand taken from the Eminem song and it was it's used all the time. Like if you're a die-hard fan of something they'll call you a stand. I didn't know that right. Nate that's weird. All right, so Audrey Audrey Lovejoy wrote in that right now her dad who was her kids grandfather is so overprotective of her kids. He's mr. Safety and he criticizes her for not being that way but when she was a kid, he was a total opposite he's changed and he watch it all his own life hurts recklessness. You would think he'd Ram parents. They become they less confined like they're more laid-back. They don't give a shit about having to do real. But this guy got more anxious winter probably because of all the mobile phone is exactly how watches Fox News and he knows there's a caravan coming that's registration apps all over his k.will 37 was so this was funny. I got a lot of these we're just some of the changing standards of safety where his back in the day. Oh, yes. This is we used to just be hard and you'd be rolling around our road trip k.will. 37 says her parents would put all the seats down to make a bed in the car. Yeah, they traveled. Yeah. That's the lathe. Beck's I mean now that is no good. That's not even a seat belt situation as well. When we got our first real car seat. I it was my I got into an art when you were a kid or when you because they didn't have car seats with me a ride with kids depends on when you were a kid. I guess. I don't remember having one. Yes. Oh, so I we got this thing and it was a great Co it was the biggest thing for us I've ever seen in my entire life and I was like what and your kids 12 so - yeah no more. No, I'm not saying I'm saying those kind of a know Mike. He was a big man - is it - bad? Obviously, we had the tiny baby one, right? Yes, obviously bucket and then when we moved in like moved on to the next car seat, it was the biggest fucking thing. Yeah bikini Loops As I Got That Base that you fired and sometimes yeah, there's some degree get them in and out is such a pain. Yeah. That was it. What the hell is this thing? And I was like, well, you know, it's the safest one. That was safety. Fuck. Yeah. I was like if this is what our freedom coffee dies, he dies, you know what exactly you know, somebody said that you sound when you're doing your Accents in a recent episode that you sounded like the guy from Despicable Me and right there when you said that you did sound like him. Okay. Did you hear the Greg Kinnear? Marc Maron? I did I did too. That's quite good. So a mandolin 82 says bringing kids over the hospital in your lap in the front seat because there were no car seats you just driving home when I brought my kids so both of my Were born in Manhattan and we drove back like over the Brooklyn Bridge Maja over the time over the Brooklyn Bridge and it is it especially when you have your first kid, it's nerve-racking to put the kid in the curve Italian with your kid. You're like I'm leaving the hospital is everyone. Okay? What exactly right here? Come on come with yeah, you like you can go no security guard. You're like dude. I should not be allowed to do what I'm about to do. I can't believe but too many kids survived the walk out the drive home. Any of that right? And that's even with car seats back in the day. They didn't have them in like Amanda said she sat on her parent's lap in the front seat God my first six lucky didn't make it to be alive, Texas Margaret says car seats back. Then we're all about ease of cleaning. They look more like kids bike seats. Yeah. I'm sure they were just like little like ex-hooker Monkey Bar. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, so I don't know how old Texas oh and by the way remember that seatbelt when you were three going right across here. Oh, yeah her cutting in your face, and now they have like, well, they didn't even use to have always the Diagonal one you just would sit with the lap one which like they prove that you get paralyzed. If you were in an accident, you need the chest heart. It's better to bounce around that it is to have one of those Paula Paul skis his seat belt in the back where optional when he was a kid. So they're still optional that tell you my wife's dad doesn't believe in seatbelts. Yeah, there are government conspiracy obviously, like climate change ali-frazier 921 says the used to be no car seats. Now. It's five point harness has died. We were talking about they're very complex. Oh sophisticated about the how about come wintertime? You know, it's super fun as putting on a five-point my guys over 100 Cook in the winter coat. So they close your glove glove is caught just fucking but then you loosen it so they fit because they're not screaming and then a couple of weeks later warms up and you're like, I'm not tightening this shit. Guess what you're riding saggy skin sag, and then you post a picture on Instagram and you get 500 million comments and you goddamn fucking car seat. Is it buckled correctly? You know how much that happens? Somebody was messing with me and said good work on the car seat buckle placement and I was like, you're fucking-a, right? I did it. Yeah validation from the trolls. Yeah. All right. So are are real in pipe a ryl NDP. I don't know how to pronounce that every Lynde says that they use lawn chairs and bungee cords in the back of the van as seats for her and her friends or he and his friends the I remember distinctly traveling around in the back of a like a pickup just like sitting Rolling around rolling again, like in Red Dawn where you're running out of the Russians. Somebody jumps in the back Yes. Actually that was an 8 knows what I'm talking about. Not the Chris Hemsworth versions be honest. So do you remember I'd have thought this was so cool. When I was a kid a couple of the parents in my neighborhood had Volvo's and on the backward see Bubbles at the backwards seats in the back. I'm not saying that wasn't there was like the Buick I think hey, they whatever. I just want to evolve. Oh, yeah right back. I don't even remember if there were car seats involved. I think the kids were probably too old at that point, but it seemed really cool. It's like here in the back. The bus all of a sudden it seemed really cool. I mean we were facing backwards. Yeah, and you could like make facing your fingers to the once I got in trouble. So we're in a school bus. We're in the back of the bus back and me and one of my oldest friends Patrick who I've known since second grade gave the finger to a like a couple of we were in the bus right give the finger or somewhere fucking around with some people drive - they followed us to school. We really nervous that he likes which jackets but we switch jackets with each other I think and we were the two offenders. Don't remember if we got caught it just sounds really dumb. Yeah, it does anyway, so we should have been disciplined for that. And this is funny that's called a Segway because now we're going to get into how discipline has changed. Yeah like that Nate. Yeah eight appreciated. That fucking segue discipline is all about we're all about timeouts. Now. Do you lack all about you lack of discipline or all about do you like it? Do you I'm trying to do Arnold Schwarzenegger, and I'm doing some weird southern thing. Who is your daddy? And what does he I'm very bad at accent so So k.will 37 who already spoke earlier. Look at that second appearance says her parents. I assume her mom would spank with a handmade wooden board handmade handmade that's like that someone took time. I made kind of like like us like, you know, you can fuse the exactly but just imagine like a Vimeo will look slow motion. Just kind of slowly making yeah disciplined weapon dreaming of Smashing your kids like just like blowing the sawdust. Strawberry blond, although it's spelled without its felt strawberry. It's hard to explain strawberry blond said her parents would threaten her with a wooden? Sandal? Sandal? That's like a clog. I think she's for she didn't say but I'm assuming she's Garrett from the Netherlands. So hold on somebody else thought the same thing no talking to oh she does she then goes on to say talking to kids. Yeah. I don't know what she meant by that talking to our kids at their level, which I think was she was saying That parents these days. Yeah act like children are equals. We're back in the day. It was like my way or the GD Highway mother effer, right? Yeah. I'm sorry. I you like Daniels Highway the Greg day the Greg Daniels out of the crate of the office. Right? So my mom used to have a wooden spoon even a plastic spoon and she would chase us around and hit us with it. Yeah me and the boys, she'd Hit The Boys Are Back In Town me and the rest of the Thin Lizzy. Yeah. We did we talk about it hit us with top of the head or smack this in the but top of the head Jesus Christ. I used to get I got you got a problem with my mom's tactics. Have you seen how I turned out? Yeah. Yeah. I know that that's what how cannot. That's what I know, you know where so I have a weird. This is a total aside. I have a weird hairline like in the middle of my head because when I was a kid, I don't even fucking know why you would have something like this. We had like an electric shoe polisher that you could like hold. I think that's what it was and my brother my older brother Marcus 10 Joven me had it and somehow fucking got it caught in my hair and like fuck I was probably like four or five. Yeah ripped your hair. Sometimes a barber will be like, what's up with you like you're weird hairline or your your parts ain't right or some shit. I don't remember it at all fucking wrong. I even know who has a fucking he made you promise yet. He makes you blocked it out and baldness a permit knocked it out. Oh my God, another funny thing we're talking about safety. That's not really discipline related. But your mom you I told you it was a total of Aside. Okay. Well, I thought did I not I mean but then you must but then your mom would hit you in that same hour write this so hold on when I go back to Safety in the car seat. So we had a Buick when I was a little kid and in the backseat of the goddamn Buick there are not only ashtrays they were fucking live lighters. Yeah, were you could push the lighter down to ignite it and you pull up another back fucking seat and you can put on the kids are like, yeah, so one time I was a very bright kid one time. I'm like, hey, nobody in my family smokes. This thing ain't working except I pushed it in and then I called it out and I pushed it on my own thumb. Oh my God, and I remember looking at it being like, hey, it's red. I don't know where we were going. Yeah, but we pulled over to the busbar siletti's house, which is like a family friend. Like my brother was friends with Matt possibility and I was friends with Joanne. Yeah, and there was another one. Okay. Remember her name? Anyway, I got a lot of ice on my thumb. That day, but they had fucking actual live lighters. This is like 1980 82 in the back of a car. Yeah, fucking Buick live lighters and wonder Buick ain't around anymore, right? That's right. Right like Pan Am. Well, I feel like we kind of went back a little bit because you were talking about your mom hitting you in the head. I was I was I definitely got had a spanking real punishment was more of a whether it was more casual like where you would get like hit by a San Juan whatever or whether it was like, all right, it's time for spanking and I did I also went to a school with a did. To know you didn't Catholic Oh in England. Yeah. Well, no cut that there's no Catholicism. No, I know but you were in England though. Yeah. Yeah, but I guess Catholic then I remembered. Oh England, correct and it was it was there was a church eventually like got hit by a while their Knuckles. Yeah got that kind of stuff. I got kicked one time. He got kicked by what a mule. No felt like it was a teacher get kicked by a teacher. Oh, yeah, that's fucked up that is super fucked up. That's worse than a than a than a ruler kicked. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Well, it was probably that's what not fear. That's what knocked your accent out. I think it was you don't fucking have one No One Believes. You're actually from England. All right, so but the point is thanking that came up a lot now today if you did any of that shit going to jail going to fuck in hardcore pow me in the ass. Whoa. Wow, let's move it's even worse punishment. I don't know. What is this space Sorry not like country country Dake de Country Jail. God commanded it. All right. So Bunch people talked about the difference in discipline, whether it was that kind of thing or Melanie Vineyard says her parents do not understand how not using spanking house banking isn't tactic number one for discipline. Yeah. Hey Katella says her parents can't believe she doesn't spank her kids right country girl 1958 says they spanked and they think timeouts are crazy. You know who else thinks timeouts are crazy. This guy right here timeouts are useless. - I think they're stupid. They don't work. I don't spank but what do you do? Nothing? My kids run fucking free like monstrous. They got no discipline durable. I tried timeouts. I just don't think they're effective. But do you put them in a place that they don't put him in the cage with barbed wire will tell me. Well, that's how you supposed to do it. I'm sick of cleaning up the blood from them grabbing the barbed wire. Have you ever got stuck on barbed wire? No, it's fearsome-looking stuff, isn't it? No, not really. You're not scary. Why razor wire divisor why the fuck is razor wire? It's the much more towards the same thing. It's the same thing. It's just it's way different. It's way more brutal. It's Barbed wires is like old-timey big knotted like they're like nails the reason wires the stuff that like as you walk down Fifth Avenue kit will lie close to your head as you're walking down from the fence That's Falling in your like. Oh that's razor wire. You know what I didn't ask you what razor wire I asked about fucking barbed wire. Well, that was a good story. It wasn't a story was a God damn it Pete. All right. So Gordon tribe addresses this very thing says my parents would spank me with a belt when I talk back. But now if you spank your kids at all, you're abusive exactly. I think that's even more in many cases. I don't spank my kids. I do sometimes I fucking want like when you're at the end of your rope, and I'm like we just bank or to talk to me did months ago of I have spent my oldest the fear of being spanked that is the deterrent right? Hopefully. Yeah, I mean, I think it's a hard time. Sometimes it just it is it's a there is a snap of a group like there's a I don't know what it is. But it's like a pavlovian reaction to hearing like the noise there has been times where it's been so out of control. It was the like the one just like hysterics speak. A lot of has taste like an airplane where they have to go down the aisle. They smack them in the face. Anyway number now that was that was my particular situation colorful hooker says that she thinks kids these days. Yeah. She's a friend. And could use probably use this Banking and I kind of agree. I don't think that's the only way yeah, I definitely don't think it's the only way I don't endorse it. But it just so happened that that was the I understand the impulse and I think a lot of it though, like even if you don't think spanking is bad you realize like the weight of the societal guilt, right? And you feel like I can't do it like it's too much of a thing. It's not it's not a good it's not it's not all spanking is the same. I'm sure there's like some, you know, I'm into a little bit of it. You know, what's good? Cutting it off guard with that one had fucking forehead flicking just get the I had a teacher who would just put his index finger really hard in the crown of your head or mixtures Andre would definitely mr. Townsend would take our ears and walk us out the dough the ear pull. Yeah. All right. So this is a fun when I enjoyed seeing this because this happened to me Sarah underscore J. 281 says something that used to happen that doesn't happen anymore is watching kids mouths out with soap. Totally God she wishes she could get away. With that bejan te Bae ont a says Baris open the mouth feels like that shit probably doesn't fly anymore. And then then he wanders. I'm not sure who still uses bar soap in their kitchen. Here's an even better punishment. Don't use the kitchen bar soap use the bar soap from the from the shower stall there. Guess what kid, it's all for the best. You don't have shower stalls. We have a real shot at all rawr rawr sprayed out from the bathroom. Imagine getting a bathroom bar of soap when that's like in this show. Our caddy in your mouth. I'm just saying it's more gross. Yeah, it's Marcus. Oh, come on. I don't like this the second time. We've used the word pube on this podcast and I object I object to yeah. All right, so little charmer 80 who comments a lot. It's very very good comments says my parents were strict as hell. She said your eat what you're given or you go hungry and you sit at the table and you sit still and if you want to leave you gotta ask like may I be may I be excused that kind of Of shit, I had that kind of stuff whereas today for her parenting. She makes different food for everybody and when they refused to eat it, she pretends she's going to be tough and be like I say in a restaurant but instead she immediately caves and gives like we're so concerned that our kids are going to go hungry, which is not going to happen that you buckle and also their up and down and they want their iPads and they act like prisoners in a riot. I don't know if that's so much the time as it is she's a bad parent. Yeah. I know offense little charm ready. Let's be honest. No. No, I mean, I mean that's That's a lot of I'm even worse than that something but but not hard to get them. Definitely. No, we don't every once in a while. We'll let it like weekends will do TV dinner or whatever let them watch TV while they like TV dinner. Yeah, like they can watch TV while they eat. Okay. Yeah, like we're watching a movie will be a table with it with the with a placemat but normally will have them sit down. The difference is is it's rare that actually my wife and I will sit with the kids which is something that's definitely different from what my parents when I was growing up. Yeah, it's made all of us or we all sat and ate dinner and I think that's actually kind of a that's a big one. That's when I think probably having a family dinner. I think the most about yeah and then I used to have visited it's different when there's kids sitting and eating and they're just talking amongst each other like a kid's table. Yeah, and it's like a kid's table. It's like it's more like a kid's table. Whereas if the grown-ups were there. It's more if there's a lot better days. Me your Peaks Peaks valid pits and we do Peaks and pit. So you get the best part of your day your worst part of your day. Yeah, I just to try to coax a little conversation out of the kids and then yeah, but so I think that that sitting together probably would be that's something I think what you do most of the time you try to I wish I did more so my big thing is when I was but then immediately when it comes to the time like fuck it, yeah. You just want to be over with yeah. Just here's your stupid chicken just get that's the problem with parenting these days You're Gonna Cut. I'm here this shit. So my thing is if I didn't keep my zook Sergeant Murtaugh for my spinach. I had to sit at the table until I did right or at least until it was long enough to be a punishment and I had to try eating it and I put some of my napkin everyone's going to bed now that if you did to my dog, yeah, I would like Miss whatever show I wanted to watch or whatever become a standoff. I've tried to sort of do that, but you just you give up because I'm more than a parent. You know, I have my own life and I want my kids to be in bed. I can experience some me time. Do you I will definitely the only thing I'll do is make sure that they're not able to watch the definitely don't watch they'll go bad. They can find no dessert. No dessert kids get dessert every night like as a rule unless they make a mistake. Yeah. Yeah. Me too. I feel like I didn't feel like well, that's how I made that was a that's every night Carrie. I can't remember from when I was I can't remember but we used to have avocados every once in a while and I didn't know what they were and I thought they were gross and I wouldn't eat them and now I'd be like, I wish I could go back in time to help. So the other big thing we're talking about is the freedom. Yes that we used to have as kids because standards were different right nowadays. Everything is very regimented. There was an article in the New York Times that just came out this weekend about are we ruining how we ruined childhood which is very much about how everything is regimented and structured kids don't have free play and therefore kids are more like depressed and suicidal suicide rates are going up. This is in New York Times magazine, I believe or maybe on the op-ed page. There's all this Bleak shit, and they're like is not just about screen time and lack of socialization. Shin it is about them not having the freedom that we used to have right and there's like these Boutique companies that are coming on being like let's give these guys some shark morning all this shit right when I was a kid and I'm sure when you were a kid. Yeah, you get home from school and then you're like outside for like the next four or five hours summer. You would get up in the morning you'd go I used to ride my bike towns away. Right? Right. My parents wouldn't have any idea where I was I didn't have a smartphone for them to track me. I've just come back, right? Yeah. We had one family who they would ring a big bow. But you also came from a much larger family like you had like four brothers and no I had to shoot Brothers. Well, yeah a real car. Yeah, but you know, it's trial and error you have more kids. Yeah. Okay Timmy. So Sarah who's she's commented a few times. I still don't know how to pronounce your name Sarah. Please message me and let me know Sarah Gannett Starin at said we were left outside all day without supervision. We could play at the park on supervised. We drink out of the hose. We could be left alone in the car without anybody calling Child Protective Services. Is she sat her kids will never experience the 80s and all the freedom they had. Yeah, but it's not like we can go back in time and have Badass video. So this is a problem, right? So child in the car. Now. All we know is oh, there's been hundreds of children who have died in cars and probably thousands of sugar but it's also been a lot of parents who get like reported to the police because they're kids walked home from the park unsupervised, right which is crazy. Well, so this is interesting because I well I've I found the when was it was like a year ago, there was probably a nine year old. Old and a 5 year old and they were walking in there was a boy and girl in there obviously brother and sister. They're holding hands in their walking back and there were no parents. Yeah around be seen and you're like what is happening here Oakland and I'm like I'm watching I'm like and I just I like it took a moment and you know what? I did. I just did the New York thing. I said well fuck those. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Not my problem. He is a little bit different though, right? I grew up in the never ran past them. Yeah. It's a little bit then you veered into them and I started crying a little bit different in the Yeah, I think because it just seems a little bit inherently more dangerous. But at the same time I bet that they probably just went to the store something to but in nine and a five-year-old sick. I don't know. So JJ love nine nine nine says they sent me my ass to the park solo after dinner every night starting at like 5 years old my parents wanted to but some alone time like get the fuck out. You know, what suburbs I for sure. We did that when I was when we would come visit my grandparents. We we go outside. That's what you did like when you live that like that was a summer like a neighborhood. Good and there's a bunch of kids around and it was kind of an unspoken rule you'd all be outside playing stickball around your bike's a problem is is that J dot? J love 99 went on to say that it was in the middle of winter. That's true. Yeah, and she's she lost some of her limbs in the frostbite, California Arkansas said in the summer at like 10 years old. She be outside playing in the street until 1 a.m. That's outrageous. Not just because it more dangerous at 1 a.m. But like what do you need more sleep than that attend? You don't need to be up at 1. Yeah, what's going on at one anyway? In your neighborhood in The Burbs in Arkansas and our California again, I'm not entirely clear that you checked area for life. We need some more information, California, Arkansas. I also want to know why you didn't just do the one a in the middle. So Californian Arkansas were kind of like they merged there's both a so, it's California fully spelled Arkansas fully spelled it bothered me when I was transcribing. This is the kind of thing I think about so Ali Frazier 921 says she was when she was nervous when she was a kid, and she was nervous about walking a couple of blocks home. By herself and second grade her mom just told her to follow some other kid who lived in the neighborhood. She's like is it isn't is it even legal these days for an eight-year-old to walk home alone friends of where you live. So there's this whole movement free-range parenting which comes down really hard as a woman who started a whole thing about it comes on very hard on like these communities that will arrest a parent for letting their kids walk home. Right Mark. Well, there was any nines of change that's different is when you have someone who's nervous imposing like yeah. It's like well, she's reversing that if I will for example that cut the the two kids. I seen if I had kind of followed them back and then like made a scene, you know, that would have been probably pretty sweet but I didn't do that but no one likes their other kids to be parented by somebody else either right? So there's a lot of issues there. Were you just going to be like and also hindsight's 20/20 rare. This is what I'm saying phones and or the equivalent little you put a bloody tile in there in your kit, you know, like little like that. Okay lose you you weren't saying actual like a bloody bathroom tile you're saying one of those bloody because you were from England. She saying Bloody a little like a fucking like a fuck. I'll that helps you track things. Like I have one tooth tracker. You can put it on and I was given one of those buy my dad a couple Christmases ago. And ironically I lost it immediately. I've no idea where it is. All right, so and then some of the stuff that we got past safety and discipline and then we want to talk about some of the trends that are all right. Let's go our parents. Thank you sir. This is a big one from how this this is a can't believe you think this is a big one. I think it's okay. Alright hit. I just want to pose a question out there for everyone imagine calling your your parent parent your own parents either themselves by their first name and or their friends by the first, but I can understand calling your parents friend would buy their first throw up in your mouth. Are you kidding? No, no calls their parents by their first name. So that's some fucking paper tiger. First a straw man argument kit. Well my kids do it all the time your kids call you. Yeah, just kept just to fuck around. Well, that's because you probably are ranting. About this at all. This is why is school years? I'm the same in every usually ranting about complicated shoes that they're wearing. So the the problem is is these kids now call everyone that I know all kids a Pete Peter. Can we do this this bothered it's Gauls you here's why because now what happens is when you take away that structure. So if you there's a whole languages have a whole structure as to what you address people. You don't know him as You don't know them and languages have structure-function whatnot. So French and what not. The point being is is if you call someone by an adult by the same name as a like a kid. Yes, the the put some on the same. That's the fucking dogs and cats living together. It'll be Anarchy. It's what are you talking about? I'm saying you're saying this least till I yes, I it'll collapse not if children Thomas back to their Elders not a classy what this comes down to know it comes down to these kids not fucking sitting down when I'm Saying so he said to tell you that because they're like, okay, whatever Pete so I struggle with this thing where like your kids call you by your first name is not something that happens except maybe until High School when your kids are to be like smart asses and do that kind of thing and get a little bit older kids calling your friends like other adults that aren't their parents by their first name the way we typically get around this and this is Clumsy is you start to call all your friends like on Tom fucking worried like our friend Rory not your actual Aunt we're close friends. So that's Cool, but then all of a sudden it becomes like every firm when you do you like mommy's like a teacher or like miss you treat like a teacher like like Miss Meredith or whatever, but you don't do that for the kid goes up you and he's like, oh Alice's mom, you know, nobody will you learn their last name? And you're supposed to say, you know, no I'm saying I don't our kids on this is a Miniver. Can I go out to the playground with your daughter what they don't see that they go. Oh, you know Sarah. Can I go to play with Greg? That's her name though. Write her name is Sarah it. It is but it's the point is is it's like they're not saying oh mrs. Sarah or whatever. They're not they're not doing the the children and I don't think this is a big deal. I think it's gonna get up a pole. I don't know it is a little weird nine. Oh two one. Oh, I can't tell how it's going to Brandon started to call his parents Jim and Cindy like during high school or college and it was fucking weird and I'm like this guy's a douche bag because seems a pretentious goof. Let me put it a different way. Let's get talk about an out of my immortal. I would never have called any of my parents Friends by their first name. But he'll call my parents raised by their first. They like mr. Mrs. Amado or whatever exactly. I would have never called any of my parents his friends by their first name. However, all of my kids know all of my friends by their first name, yeah, but I don't think that's the problem. I find it weird that now I'm in my 40s and I can't call my fucking dad's best friend George. I gotta call him fucking mr. Amato because it's really hard to fucking ditch that like once you have done that exact hard to feel like you're on their level. I don't know man. Well, I don't know that's the thing is like well, but I've that is some weird axes to grind is what I'm saying. Well, I don't know about that. I think that there's a weird Hills to die on. I I believe that there that really separates the difference between that we I can there's a lawless as a friend and your parents is your friend or parents as an adult or what like it mixes it up a little bit. You know what I'm going to pull it I'm gonna be like, you know, what is the reason that of the economy is failing because I am kids now. Let's get into college they share their first name. Going to Cloud. Yeah complications. Trust me a just right. So here's some here's a random Trends. Oh you wanted to get some water thing. Okay water, isn't it? Water become a thing. What do you mean one has to die. But what about education where we ever come about water really with them about it. It's essential to go find a tap. I turn it on and I'd have to drink I know now because everyone has their water bowl. Where's the water bottle? I don't know. Did you wash the water bottle? I don't know did. You lose your water butter. Where's your water bottle? She let the water but do you have fucking mental problems? You will fucking water bottles. I agree with you that buck this the water bottle Trend back in his time machine loaded, but I don't think that's a negative. There you go. That's my whole fucking piece. You're crazy. That's because you don't know anything about parenting. Well, I never said I did. All right, you know what? I'm not an expert just doing my best here to complain, right? Anyway, sorry. I can't believe you talked about some stuff people actually care about soap in 1880 said that she was never allowed to sleep in her parents bed and her mom thinks it's nuts that she lets her kids sleep with us, but she says it's all about survival. So I was out with my brother and his Wife couple weekends ago. They have a one and a half year old and have a second kid on the way and I was talking about how co-sleeping is fucking literally legitimately destroying my life and my older kid does it and now my younger kid has gotten hooked and we've totally fucked up. It's fucking terrible. We ruined it. We blew it. Okay you but you have time to change it. You may go especially with the toddler. Yeah. We have some shit. It's all about consistency over short period time, whatever just saying the only time I was ever in my parents bed as a kids if I had like A nightmare, right? Yeah, or if I like fell out of bed which would happen is that one of those dead guards because sometimes I would fall out of bed up until I was like 16 just kidding but the Sleep Trend thing or the sleep training somebody else mentioned Veronica quick said sleep training her mom laughed so hard at the idea of sleep training until she babysat and then she was like, okay. I don't have any more context about that. I don't know what to her. Mom realized. Oh, I like the baby was probably getting up every two seconds, you know, or the toddler trouble getting out of bed every time. Actually realized we needed to do some shit. I don't know what's happened to kids they physiologically that it's changed it. I don't know what parents did back in the day. I think it was just we're just firmer. We're just we're looser now, we're softer so that we're more likely to let a kid sleep in the bed mattress. It's just I think we're just less likely to be strict with our kids then parents used to be and I think when it comes to sleep training you fuck up your situation the one or two times you give in it becomes a trend. I'm actually interested. I'd love to know if there's anyone who's Who is older who's gone through this who was back in the day doing this being like? Yeah, it was a horrible pain in the ass. And I wish I had sleep training because sleep training is he came from somewhere? Well, it made sense it some time and then all of a sudden everyone realized we were this horrible piece of shit. So you're saying the sleep training used to make sense. And now it doesn't I'm saying there was you're obviously nicely tracing there was probably a reason a good reason for why Sue training became anything. Yeah, because everyone Was everyone was miserable as probably a solution and then yes, and then it became a prophet was yeah perfectly. So you tried to solve one solution and you created a monster. So Q 1372 says he hates sleep training type hand. What a load of crap. Wait a sec illogically damage your kids. I object to that premise. I don't think cry it out which I did with my kids is psychologically damaging. It worked for both my kids, especially when they were younger to sleep through the night when they were babies that typically what he means by Sleep Train versus cause I'm assuming yeah, you know sleep training. Yeah, I'm assuming which is where you let your kid cry it out until they pass out. They need to learn how to self-soothe and regulate. It's a fucking thing your doctors would tell you there's a sorts of studies that will say it's problematic the studies that say, it's won't I'm sure somebody's going to fucking message me with the MPR thing and it's bad for your kids. My kids are fine. They're psychologically abused in other ways. Okay. I handle it in other ways take care of that abuse. Exactly specific way. It wasn't the sleep training it did it to him. It's the other stuff that I do, okay. So Ken mom Kern somebody I know on Twitter because I mentioned something about new school year is starting and I'm going to be meeting like my new kids classmates parents. Right? Right, and I'm like, I hope I get along with them and he was like, we never met kids parents. What a nightmare I think like being involved in your school and like going to the school and like meeting everybody is a thing that looks like back-to-school nights meet teacher used to be just like the fucking bus comes you're their parent teacher conference once up every three months. He was like what a nightmare that would have. Ben Stanford, mommy who's a friend of mine online on Instagram says that her mother-in-law thinks she's nuts for having kids schedules would he says if the baby doesn't nap, we're all screwed. Right which is like that going home if the baby's tired or making sure they baby has to be an apple every city. We've talked about this before where like you can skip the baby's nap. It's a bad time for everybody a lot of the time and every once in a while you do it but like being Tethered to your house because the baby has to sleep there for me. His mother-in-law I think was just like who gives a fuck about the baby. Well, we're doing our Thang but there's two there's two ways to look at it, right? There's there are those that will not there are no exceptions. Meaning. We're yeah. No, I think that's land. We have to stop it immediately and have to go home and nap. This kid vs. Like, okay. Well like every once in a while like they're normally like every normal Saturday or Monday or whatever every normal day. This is when the kid goes to sleep is when they wake up. So this is she got to make some exceptions. Yeah, of course, it's fine case-by-case basis also, it's like It's a case-by-case basis Sonia Colorado art mom and this is shocking to me says her partner is very involved. But her father thinks that her partner should work more in parentless, you know, we don't often hear that take these days make them get this guy out of the house get that money though. It's a Mom's work to be the parent money. It's a very kind of 1950s attitude. We're like, hey, look I'm working. You stay at home. I'm like, I'm cheating you you have your nice life at home. In the house that I provide for you and all this shit and I'm the Man bringing home the bacon. This is my three sons now, he doesn't even have a wife your dad's. So Father Knows Best, he doesn't either I don't even know why you know, I Love Lucy was she a housewife. She's okay. Yeah. It's a Misadventures trying to be a working woman, but iron Factory the assembly line episode who doesn't know no one does so we made us no idea what I'm talking when we first had our oldest daughter of the first one of the first anecdotes my friends our friend Tim's dad. Dad said yes, I've changed a few diapers in my time you as story two weeks ago. Okay, you are you know, I could either keeping us your father's timers. You're younger than me. Good. That's fine. The point being it's very apt for this point. Sure. Yes, I agree. It is older folks took proper not to pry but almost was like, well, I thought it was normal for them. Yeah, and it's like dude, he was impressed by the fact that you've changed a handful of diapers diapers my God, you know what? That's why Tim so fucking Stuff these days my friend Tim. Yeah, it's not Ginger. He is still wearing diapers. They both are all right. So son yukawa-r mom brings up one of the biggest changes which is screen time. Although look the prevalence of technology and Screen kind of stuff. I watch a lot of TV. That's what I'm saying. When I was a kid, I'd get up on Saturday mornings and I'm watching TV I get home from school. I'm watching fucking Saved by the Bell Scooby-Doo depending on my age, you know, three to six three to seven, you know, got a lot of it now, it's 17 different and to be honest. I feel like playing video games is better than passively watching TV hand-eye coordination problem solving critical thinking all that shit, but it's just so prevalent that we get nervous and we project a little bit because we're on our phone. So well, I think any of these social games like Roblox is a nightmare, but well, there's lots of pitfalls with the social games where you need to block the messaging because there's some some serious. Yes. I'm serious mother mothers out there. Alright, so the last couple things we want to talk about. The question is whether all the coddling that we do now. So Daydreamer Leah says the codling is making our kids grow up to be wimps. Right? Whereas we used to be kind of have a lot more freedom. We're not being monitored as much we're not nothing's being scheduled as much we're not being like picked up when we fall every two seconds parents are very concerned about being good parents and raising like Safe Kids. Is it making our children wimpy? I don't know this making kids wimpy. I think maybe it's stifling a little bit of Independence and self-sufficiency. I think that's probably definitely a thing like my eight-year-old. Old I could probably do more on my own. Well, first of all, it's on I was the kid that he can it's our job to fuck these kids up. It is also they going to write the best songs. How else are they coming to become these artists? Exactly and well what if in that artists? Well, you're doing an amazing job. Thank you. Wow. You know what? I'm expecting. That means a lot to me. That means a lot to me on the other hand. My lazy kids God damn everything handed to them. So check your kids at the door says that his dad was completely hands-off and all about himself and he as I get a lot of this is I think Is a good point he's like I never intended to be that way. So it's like he's cursed. It's a corrective to the way his dad was and I think that that's some of it you do. So like Tim's dad was so hands off that now Tim is a helicopter not saying he is but I'm saying that generationally sometimes this happens where you're like, I'm stepping it up now because I don't want to have a childhood. Like I had her a dad. Like I had I want to be better than that. Do you have that like you have something that you're like I'm going to do something. No. I had a really like well-adjusted childhood and my parents were good, huh? My mom was a homemaker, but my dad wasn't like it wasn't like Don Draper. It wasn't like making them drinks and he was ignoring me like he was involved not as involved as I am. But of course, I'm unemployed at home all the time. Right? I'm not even bringing home any bacon or cooking it because I'm not a good cook but without doing much at all is be honest. Yeah, like I will say that, you know, I think the for me it's just about being a little bit more relatable to the to my kids like just having more fun with them. To be their friend. I don't want to get it back fire up your ass. So benteen 80s is one last thing says my parents always sided with the teacher no matter what, you know, what salts side with adults nowadays. It's like blood is thicker than water clothes and ranks. I thought that was interesting point and teeny 80 you like if there's a conflict that school the kids are much more apt to be like, I'll fucking lawyer up on the school's ass, right? I've seen big little lies. Do you know that that's actually a big one that my parents would always do I'd be like, oh this teacher sucks and she be like, oh, what do you Do they give the adult and benefit of the doubt? What do you do? I'm like, I'm not fucking doing anything. This guy's like a psychopath and he's like talking about shit. No one understands and then he's like well, yeah, but they're like, you're a child. You don't understand exactly. Yeah, and you know, what is true? I always really fucking hated that so well, look you were a kid. Look. It's not always a direct the teachers not always right, but in a lot of cases that dealt most cases adults do no more than kid, you gotta trust your kids hashtag believe women, you know, but that's okay. I'm just saying you got to listen to the victims. The kids are have to be dramatic and complain and a lot of times it's bullshit. This is a good my oldest daughter is now in middle school so she came home and she's had a couple of experiences with teachers her computer teacher. For example, she's like, I don't understand like this. She's not getting a very good grade in computers, which is the heart of the problem exactly, but she was actually saying the teacher talks way too fast trying to ask Questions the teacher says don't worry that get it out. Like you know you figure out later and I list I was like, yeah. Yeah, that really sounds like it sounds Outlet in to meet with this is your oldest. Yeah, because I was like, I'm going to go in and find out it turns out that they have like was the teacher that micro machine man teacher was was was not a great was totally as my daughters get him. You get a fire her you got her fired. No, I got it promoted. There you go. Just get her out of her hair. Yeah, you know what? Everybody wins Peter Principle Okay. All right. 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Car seats, kids water bottles, calling parents by their first names -  all things that never existed when we were growing up. When we took car trips as kids the highlight was riding facing backwards in the station wagon with one working lap belt. But now, oh boy, the rules of parenting have changed; from discipline to technology to constant water consumption it's all water bottles all the time. Was it better then or is it better now? Mike and Pete get into it all. 