Because it was one of those things where I needed to have water the number one thing that contributed to the search-and-rescue event was fatigued. Hey, Hey there everybody and welcome to another nature Alliance media podcast. Guess what the dynamic duo is here not so low anywhere. I'm Craig God. Oh and I'm Tracy tremble and we are together. Today. We're going to be talking about I think Trace I swear I think this whole bunch of stuff. We got to share. We're probably break this up into two or three won't we? Oh, I would think so. We've got a lot of information to go where I guess it depends on how in-depth we're going to hit that. Probably at least two maybe three nice what we're doing guys and gals is we are sharing information that we've had experience with that. We've heard from others that are common mistakes. We've had an opportunity to see a bunch of stuff and our day Tracy has a search and rescue volunteer as in a structure nature Alliance school and and all the good stuff that we do is we see a lot of mistakes. We see a lot of cool stuff going on, but we see a lot of mistakes and we thought we would share that we're going to break these up again and Three parts now how they lay out on the podcast. We'll see how this goes naturally, but we're going to be looking at before you hit the trail on the trail and at Camp some of the common mistakes. So that's what we're going to break down before we get into that. Don't forget to check out our sponsors. There's links in the description below check out the new website nature blindsight o RG, there's all kinds of cool stuff there Tracy's got blog information. I got blog information. We got podcast classes all kinds of cool stuff coming so You want to get us started there, sir? Okay, we'll start do it with before you hit the trail and we preach about this all the time you do, especially Even in our classes issue of not planning your hike. So each day that you go the planned out for trail distance water Camp everything like that needs to be planned out. One of the big issues that we run into is for even day hikes is that you will have a weak Link in your party. And if you're not planning for that weak link, meaning that person that might be a little overweight or not used to hiking or new to hiking even someone who likes to stop and take pictures and stuff that will throw your plans off dude. I got a good story for not planning you guys clown you always have good skills. So I've hiked the shelter we Trace not in the end, but I've section hiked it and I did most of that when I was in high school and college with a good friend of mine one year. We set out we always did the Majority of it hiking for a full week on spring break every year one year one of the things that I want to say it was the second year. We started engaging in these hikes. We set out we're going to hike around and we were actually around Cave Run Lake area. We had not pre-planned. We had packed what we packed the year before and added to it or changed up. We got new boots and all this stuff and hadn't paid attention to guess what it had been raining a lot. So the trail that was all the way around the lake. Is there what Turtle dude was not there. I got there's a picture of me. I'd love to find this picture if I can find this picture. I will use this as the photo that goes along with a Blog piece for this podcast, but that said there's a picture where the trail literally runs you can see one of the one of the turtles is standing in the middle of the water of Cave Run Lake and that was the first time ever. It's the first time man that I started literally bushwhacking my way and utilizing train Association. Even though I didn't even know what the heck trade Association was we had we went cross-country man with the map. We got lost to anyone good at it. We were not good at it. How many miles did y'all travel you remember? I don't remember man. It was we were out for I mean that was just the star dude. I mean we were out for a week and we finally got around the lake but and then and then we got away from the water so we were okay, but there was three or four hours there one day that we were just completely totally lost. In and running across Old Logging roads and everything out there man. But yeah, I'm sorry getting us off track your phone plan your Trail distance resources and and pay attention to the weather. I guess is what I could add to that as well. So not planning. Like I said, you know Craig you talk about this all the time. You gotta sit down if you just going to go out even for a Day hike you need to at least put some thought into it our number one. Search and rescue event is day hikes. So, you know, you just go out and not really think just playing. Hey, we're just going to take a half hour walk out to this Arch or this overlooked and before you know it you made a wrong turn and that half hour turns into many many hours. So yeah, and I think one of the things that's important that you put in the notes here that goes along with what I was saying, but but needs to be continued as knowing your basically your pace and I'm not talking. Hey know your pace count. I'm talking about knowing that when you're going to be going somewhere. That hiking up and down through the Red River. Gorge is totally different really than even hiking around Cave Run Lake for those that don't know those two areas. Those areas are the way the crow flies not very far at all from one another but the train is entirely different mixed hardwood forest. Yeah, but there's a whole lot more straight up and straight down in the Red River Gorge and there is in Cave Run Lake and the farther south you go in the state down around Berea. For example, even if you're hiking shelter we It's flat as a pancake down through there. Yeah, big difference doesn't know the terrain where you are and how your pace is going to change based upon that yeah, one one reason why I threw this into the list was we have people all the time that we go in and get that Darkness pins them down or even fatigue and it's because they go out and they hike six miles in The Gorge and they think that'd be no problem because they've been walking through four or five miles a day in the park and you walking apart. It's fairly level ground with no pack on or no water. And you start climbing these Hills even though the Red River Gorge doesn't have major heels, but you'll still have what three four hundred foot climbs at places. So makes a big big difference. It's just being overconfident or maybe just ignorant of the the situation that you find yourself in so that that is a big issue for us in the gorgias is biting off too much more than you can chew. Oh man, no doubt. There was a again. I know you laugh. I have all kinds of stories but one of the trips when we were hiking back during that time, I'm going to say I was in college at this point. We were hiking somewhere down around London. I think maybe around red bird or something of that nature and again on the shelter. We Trace I think I'm not sure we got in this area that we were going to be hiking for about two or three days and literally I bet oh my gosh, man, it's been Twenty years ago, but I bet we didn't go four to five miles over the whole three days because we got dropped off and when we got in the woods a tornado it was like it had gone right down the dag on trail man and climbing over and under all these trees that were down because none of it had been cleaned up added recently happened, right? It was a nightmare. I mean, I just I mean it was one of those times I've had a lot of times where I've gone in the woods and thing. Oh man Sunshine. Peace, and love. I feel like hugging a tree or something. I love it out here. I was pissed it was one time you wanted out. Oh man, that was not there was no part of that trip. That was enjoyable. It was a fight to get through there. Yeah. We had a rescue back in the spring. I think our late last fall. Well, actually we did a podcast on it. It was the first one where they walked up a stream and got lost. So look at podcast number up, but John met and we had him on a podcast as well. He was the one who made contact with the hikers and brought him out. The route that he came out on had that had trees down everywhere. A lot of pine trees falling over and that kind of stuff and it wore them out climbing and walking around and climbing under some of them and stuff to get out. So yeah, it makes a big difference. And is that the don't know what you're going to run into out there. Is that the I thought a stream and got lost or trout fishing. That was the first one. I followed the stream and got lost. Yeah, okay. Yeah everybody if you're interested in that which I recommend you listen to its number one. It's literally number one podcast lost and found. I followed a stream of got lost. So check that out. Hey, man, that brings up another point you you did a podcast other day and I listened to it was one of the I think most informative that we've done on the park statistics. You want to share some of the things you don't have to get into that whole podcast, but you want to share some of those things that you got out of that podcast as it relates to this being overconfident and Or you know basically ignorant. Yeah, well in the fatigue I wrote this this statistic down to this comes from the year 2017 from our national parks, whenever they go in and rescue someone they do an interview and they try to collect as much information about the hikers and events and what they were doing so that they can better train their search and rescue people or better equip the park system to handle such event. The number one thing that contributed to the search and rescue event was fatigued 23% of the events were credited towards the hikers fatigue now, that's a lot but now get this the number two contributing factor was insufficient information or poor judgment. That's 19 percent if you add those two credits 42% of the events. You know, I love statistics, but this happened to me this past week and I tried to promote this on our social media as a method for people to learn from it the other day, I'd been hammering away at some stuff on the computer for two days had been out and been able to enjoy the outdoors and I told my wife has and I'm going I got to get out of here. I've got to go relax and get in the woods. And so I had it out. It was raining. I absolutely absolutely love hiking in the rain. And it was raining pretty steady, which I enjoy getting out in and I'm and I went out I enjoy that as much as anything and I felt like I needed to get out and do it. But when I got there, I started lightning and thundering and I did not go point. I was trying to make is that that is survival right there. That's good survival turn. Not not to toot my own horn, but I'm going to my own horn a little bit is that there's just times where you've got to have good judgment. And if you're if you to yourself say this goes against my Better judgment, but I'm going to do it. Anyway, then you're going to be part of that 19 percent at some point in your life. You know, I'm saying don't you agree with that much all agree a hundred percent. We all get that little sixth sense or just that funny feeling that says don't do that and most of us and I've been in that category quite a bit in my life will go on and do it and sometimes it doesn't turn out too. Well. I think that pretty much closes that section out doesn't I'm looking at me nowit don't here's one here is an excellent suggestion one of the articles. I have read here recently it labeled this one. I'm getting ready to talk about as Shakedown hike you take someone who's getting ready to go on a two day three day four Day hike they load their gear up and they take off and then why they're out on that hike then they figure out that well, this pack doesn't fit right this strap binds me or Cuts me and maybe one of the best things you can do. Go on a Day hike especially if you're doing a multi-day hike go on a Day hike before you hit that trail with a Shakedown Cog meeting. You take every bit of gear that you plan on taking and do it on a Day hike and pull that be able to analyze that gear and how it sets how it carries and how much the weight that you can actually handle and it'll give you a good indication of how many miles you can travel in the day. Yeah, my cousin it just hike to 80 he talked about that and promoted that pretty well too and he and his wife did a lot of those getting in preparation. I mean literally to hike the 80 they did that for four or five years leading up to when they left the height 80 just to do those what you're calling Shakedown hikes. Just fantastic. Do you remember how many days that they were out on trail for the 80? Yeah. I really don't man. It was a long time. Yeah. I remember you telling me that she didn't end up making it she end up having a knee injury and had to get out and then They are now going back and she is section hiking the rest of it because she wants to be able to say that she hiked whole thing to yeah, but that was on the list for many many years. I mean, yeah, he was he was he was the fellow that was in the military had a really successful career in the United States Army and it was one of the maybe I should speak for him. But I think it was one of those things that motivated him for a long time those last few years in the military. He had a really tough job and He had looked forward to hiking the 80 when he retired and that's what that's what he did. He threw hiked it be nice good for him good for her. Let's move on to the next one getting a late start but going anyway, you know what comes to mind. What's that when you read I'm sure you I know you doing what you do you there's so many other things but the one time the last time I was with you all maybe it wasn't the last time not wasn't the last time last year. We did that man tracking class for Wolfe County search and rescue. And as we guys and gals that are listening then that we were finishing up the day doing some tracking stuff and looked up and there was a bunch of like what looked like college kids heading into the woods. Oh, yes. I remember them. I mean the sun the sun I could only see part of the sun because it was already on the horizon and that's when they were going out and they were carrying a water bottle flip flops tank top shorts couple people have those little string backpacks that you could tell was carrying who knows a bag of dope or whatever. I don't know what they were carrying in a bit of wood and supplies to spend the night outside. And remember that luckily we never got called back on called back out on that one. But but yeah it and here's the issue that we run into in areas that have a lot of traffic you leave your house you drive an hour and a half to get to the park and there is no parking where you plan to go. So then you have to travel to a different parking lot or take a different Trail all together and then they Just throw you behind if you have been listening to Craig and you have planned your day for a particular Trail. Now you're off onto a different Trail and we've gotten a lot of people pinned down the dark because they just didn't understand the length of that secondary trail that they had to had to go on but getting a late start can really throw up throw you off. I'm sitting here thinking man. I don't I've never been one to really enjoy because it always surprises me and I never thought about it till you talking just now, I'm Not one that really enjoys hiking at night. I mean, I know it sounds crazy. But I was a saw somebody on a post on a Facebook group of the day said they were talking about hiking at night and they had to do that to get their miles in or whatever. And I thought man. I just I really don't get that mean I enjoyed go out and do stuff at night all the time, but I wouldn't call it hiking. I mean I do I go out and you know, maybe Meander or doing Wildlife study or trying to listen to Al sounds or something. Maybe it's just semantics but it just seems like A little dangerous to be going out at 9:00. Yeah, you know, I've never given it any thought I've done a lot of not hiking here in the last five years from the search-and-rescue because we're out, you know at night going and finding people and lead them out, but I can't say think of back. I don't know if I would really enjoy it not because you don't get to see a lot, you know, you're limited by your by your headlamp there now. I have been out early early in the morning at night to make my way to an Overlook or something like that to enjoy the sunrise from A high peak? Oh, yeah. Yeah, I guess that but just to go out and hike I don't I can remember just going out and Hiking for Joy at night. Hey, I got a couple other things here that are a little bit minor but but go along with the same concept of these mistakes one of them being your water bladder and all the problems that go along with it. Sometimes it's easy for you when you pack your stuff, too. To get the mouthpiece is either pressed on and you're leaking water or you don't get the if you got like I carry a camel bag. That's the one that works best for me. The one that because I've got four or five of those things but it has a huge screw top on it and sometimes What I've Done incorrectly is screwed that on and not got the threads absolutely right and then you throw it on your back and you've got a wetback. Yeah that has probably happened to everyone. With bladders. I'm not a big fan of water bladders anymore. I pretty much carry bottles with me and I tell you when I switched and you'll remember this story The you and I were down in Louisiana taking the man tracks. And when was that was that the first part of December? Maybe that's trying to think is latter part of Mohammed first part of December. We were down in Louisiana pretty deep. I think it was the oldest whether they've had on history in history when it was cold and the not even if it's not a motel her but it was he exactly it was the day before I think might have been even the last day that we were doing this long tracking events because we would track a quarter mile half a mile and your water tube froze up. Yeah. Yeah, man, I'll never forget that. I mean it was because it was one of those things where I needed to have water. It wasn't just that I wanted I needed it. I was going to get the Hydrated and there was no I mean it was completely Frozen completely Frozen. That's a bad position to be and gotta just basically dumped water as best. You can out of the big hole that comes out of the gun the container. Yeah, he's not cool. So yeah, I mean from that day on I pretty much have switched over to just carrying bottles of some type. So I don't know if teaching I love the water bladder. It's convenient having that drink spout over and your shoulder and being able to drink but but I've Kind of moved away. So yeah little stuff like that makes a big difference and now a word from our sponsor. Hey you yeah you I'm talking to you. He liked his podcast don't you and you're thinking about doing a podcast yourself. Let me tell you how easy it is to do this with anchor first off the money's right? It's free zero cost. Secondly, there's creation tools that allow you to record and edit your podcast right from your phone or computer. Anchor will then distribute your podcast for you. So it can be heard on Spotify Apple podcast and many more bonus. You can make money from your podcast with no minimum listenership. It's everything you need to make a podcast in one place download the free anchor app or go to Anchor dot. F m-- to get started here is a big topic packing the wrong clothes. And you could probably do a whole podcast on this this particular topic. Let's start. Let me throw some things out and let you comment on them. How about that? Yeah, that sounds okay. My background is real estate appraising in one of the first things that I look at when I'm evaluating the houses the foundation if you got a good foundation, you can build up on it. The foundation for hiking is our Footwear. So what do you say about Footwear cream, if you don't have the right foot where you're going to be miserable? That's all there is to it. It's one of those things that you should You should invest as much money as you can forward into your Footwear. Don't go cheap for certain and you need to do what works for you. Meaning don't get something because it's popular and one of the things we're not when I was writing the ultimate Wilderness gear. This is one of the things that the research kind of jumped out at me the research both. I contacted all these companies as well as I queried a bunch of different people particularly on Footwear as it related to Backpackers. Talk to a bunch of different Backpackers on how your tally hunt being one of them Tracy. No no towel. She's a good gal. One of the things that just seem to jump out at me. Is that it seems as if if you like let's say that you wear Merrill's like I wear Merrill's I'll just choose what I use Merrill's I will probably my foot will probably fit into a mayoral across the board because they're footbed is designed a certain way and it works for me. Some people really like schemes for example, and so you can get Keen sandals. You can get Keen shoes. You can get Keen hiking boots and they'll probably work for you. I love Keen sandals and Well the same because they were one of the few sandals at the time when I bought sandals that had a real good tow protector on it. But man I had to I mean, I love that they felt comfortable around my foot, but my feet eight wearing those Keen shoes and there were people that I knew that were just like Craig. These are the bomb. These are the greatest thing ever. Well, you need to find that shoe bed a company that works for you and you'll probably stick with it. I guess as a key Point. Does that make sense? He's saying there. Yeah, let me ask you this a low-cut. Boot like a mayoral versus open-toe sandals not cool for hiking in my opinion the open the open-toed sandals is what I'm saying, and I'm telling you right now. My wife is one of them. She lives and dies by her Chocos. She loves those things, but she's not everybody needs to listen. She's not a big Backpacker or big hiker. She's not gonna throw a Pack on her back. She does not find a lot of enjoyment out of that. So she doesn't I mean she's a casual Meander through the woods and studying edible plants or will you know yesterday we took a hike for about two miles that was we were looking for owls and we didn't have big huge backpacks on that kind of stuff. So if you're if you're going to be spending a lot of time outside, you've got to have some something that's going to be closed toe in my opinion. Are you getting at that or do you feel differently about it? Oh I back that up a hundred percent. Okay. We hate flip-flops and you don't want to talk about flip-flops just to the kind you buy at Walmart. Oh my gosh, the number of people that we've gotten off trails because they were wearing flip-flops and they slip and slide and now they have a you know, hurt ankle or knee and all that kind of stuff. It's just if we had a hundred dollar for every one we've done that we wouldn't have to worry about buying equipment because we'd have the money seriously it just unbelievable, you know. Yeah, just just not good wear something that is On to grab traction out on these rocks and roots and heels and everything. Now, let me ask you this. This is not often talked about what about socks? That's another one that I'm big on spending whatever money you can afford to get good socks. I I personally am a big fan of Merino wool socks that works for me. They Wick moisture you can get thin ones that you can wear during the summertime. That's what I wear. I wear actual footies. Twelve months out of the year now. I don't wear socks that come up much farther than my ankles anymore ever and maybe that's just me older age. I just I just don't like socks up on my shins and my calves and everything. I do the same thing Craig. So these are sleeping. Yeah Foodies is pretty much 90% of what I wear year-round Jennifer and I were talking about this yesterday. Is it how have you been like at I mean long time or is it the only time that I wear a what you know of full-size pull up sock is in really cold weather? Other than that man is just for these cases. Yeah, I just wanted that's an age thing as well as asking you because you're so much older than me could because you're almost my age. So paying with Tina paying attention to your Footwear actually early. I did that your foundation. If you had bad food where you're going to feel it every step of the way. If you have a bad pack you can take it off maybe alter it and change it around but there's a little you can do with food where if you're a mile out and you just got to keep going you'll feel it. Every step of the way. It is tough. What about moving on that? What about pants shirts coats gloves that kind of stuff. Wow. And it all depends upon what you're doing absolutely depends upon what you're doing. Okay, and let me give you a scenario. Okay, and we could talk for you. Could you could talk for several hours of probably on just clothing. Maybe we are do podcast just on clothing but 40-degree day and I'm going to go out on a four-mile hike. Okay, this is what I'm going to have on. I'm going to have on a pair of Merino wool foot. He's probably With my regular just shoes depend upon the terrain when I say shoes I've gotten to where I wear low-cut shoes instead of higher boots personally. I wear 511 pants. I've got these 511 pants that have stretch in them. That way I can get up and down and move around and all that stuff and they last a long time. I've got a pair of pants that I've been wearing. I put them on the other day. They got holes in them, but I've been wearing them for five years really good pants. I see all these people Will talking about cool pants KU h l and car hearts and stuff and how tough they are. In the last lifetime. I can't move around in those things. I just don't feel comfortable moving around in them 40 degree weather. I'm probably with it. Yeah, not probably I am going to have a long sleeve wicking shirt on usually some other sort of shirt that goes on that and a vest. I'm going to carry something to my pack that have have to stay the night out. I have long sleeve insulation on top of me. That's pretty much it. What about a camp? Beanie take one with you? It just depends on if there's wind or not if the wind was blowing. I'd probably have it on. If not, I'd probably have it in my pocket so I can take it. It's one of the things that I my beanie I'll take on and off a lot. When one of the one of the things that's key about clothing is just have something that you can regulate your own temperature and pay attention to When I start getting hot first thing I do is take that beanie off and I unbutton my shirt down to you know, two or three buttons down when I get that first little hint to chill. I'll button everything back up if I continue to get Shield I put the hat back on when I get hot I take the beanie off unbuttoned if I take my beanie off unbuttoned still hot I roll up my sleeves and that way the key here. For people is as far as regulate man. We could we can make a whole podcast. I this Tracy. Yeah, I'm starting. I'm sitting here thinking maybe I get to D. But let me say this and then we'll move on is the key is you've got to have Exposed Skin to get rid of heat and everybody thinks that you lose and this is another thing that came out of the research for my second book ultimate weirdness gear. You lose 70% of your body heat through your head. That's not true. You lose 70% of your body heat. They're exposed areas of your body. So for example, if I had a beanie on even at like a really good warm down coat, but had shorts on I would lose body heat through my my legs. I could regulate my temperature like that right through my legs right now heat rises. Yeah, you're going to lose a little more heat from your head because heat rises, but you can regulate your temperature rather easily by just opening up your jacket or unbuttoning your shirt. You don't necessarily have to take a hat off. The order in which that I do it because I don't like having a sweaty head is take my beanie off first and it usually fixes most things unbuttoned and then sleeves well hardly ever I don't say hardly. I will not buy a coat that I'm going to go out into the woods with that doesn't have vent Zips. Yeah, right. And so when I'm hiking those vents are open and I'm one that I love to go out and do a Sit. Hey real quick when you talk about Vince can you can you explain to cause some people you're talking about out of the sleeves? I guess. Yeah, the arm talk about that. If you don't care the arm pit Zips and the jackets that we were in search of rescue they unzip I'll pretty much all the way down to the wrist and they unzip all the way down to probably maybe the lower portion of your ribs. So, I mean, it's it opens up considerably. So whenever you had packs on the even a chest rig, sometimes it's hard to go in there and unbutton and unzip down because you have that chest rig set right on HSN that holds in a lot of heat. If you have a code system that you can unzip from your wrist all the way down to your ribs that will allow a lot of that heat to escape then whenever I get to my seat spot even as I'm sitting down I'm typically zip those up because Because you'll lose a lot of heat quickly just by not moving and because a lot of times I'll go out Craig set for 30 minutes 45 minutes an hour. Just kind of watch them the animals move and stuff. So vent Zips is is very important. I think nowadays and it's easy to get a lot of even everyday wear has arm pit Zips in them. So yeah since we really consider so but I think you're right Craig we can talk for a lot of time on On clothing and so let's move on. Let's put that on a list. Maybe we do a podcast on clothing and yeah says videos and stuff. So next on the list is first aid kit not taking one or taking one that you just picked up from Walmart those little small basic kind of common boo boo kits or taking a first aid kit and not knowing how to use any of the contents in them. I can only think One event search of rescue than that. I've been on where the Lost hikers and it was two ladies. They had a first aid kit. That's it was an it was in the middle of the night. It was cold as it could be. I think it was like 13 degrees. We find them they're down in the valley and a little real steep draw when we top The Cliff. I'm looking over and I can see the fire that they Made and whenever we get them all out and talking over everything one thing that they had mentioned was that aside from options to build fires with is that they had their first aid kit with them as well in case they ran into health issues the amount I think you hit the nail on the head of a several things there. They got a glad they had them but everybody should have them everybody and I'm just going to go ahead and call somebody out here but these Adventure medical kits that you get from big box stores or Garbage. They're mostly And AIDS and other crap that you'll never use unfortunately. I mean, it's just it's just the way it is. So I agree just I don't really like calling names out. What I do like about a venture medical kits is buying one because they make great cases and then taking out the stuff. I don't need and build them on first aid kit and I mean the kit that I have now is the the kit that and I've got kids everywhere. I've got a kit for my truck. I've got a kit for Jennifer struck. I've got one for my backpack. I got one. I'm carrying light going light. That is basically trauma is in everything that I have and then boo boo dependent upon whatever level I am sitting here thinking about do we could do we could do another people? Yes on yeah. I was thinking the same thing. I'm getting ready to on the topic of first aid. I'm getting ready to take a woofer class Wilderness first responder class starting January 3rd through the lemon so should be able to bring back a lot of information through. Yeah, let's do let's plan on after you get out of that class. So it's let's make it pop Cast out of that okay or two or three or three here now one thing I want to mention, please don't take the that you shouldn't take a boo-boo kit because inside my first aid kit. I have Band-Aids there is nothing more aggravating than having a scratch on your hand and drip a little blood and you get blood all over your gear the buch it has its place but it's definitely not in the first aid kit that that you should be carrying out there. Especially if you have kids my goodness you got to Protect your kids and stuff because they're going to be jumping climbing Fallen rolling everything else. Moving on in nature night school Craig and I teach mindset skills tactics and gear Gear being the last here is a downfall that I've seen in a lot of people out on the search of rescue events thinking gear solves all problems and or not understanding their gear. Yeah, absolutely and that obviously for for us being a organization that teaches what's commonly referred to as survive on ice. Have a tough time just saying survival. I want to call it safety and survival because that's what we teach right is proactive mindset skills tactics and gear to go out so you can go out a lot man, man gear gear is where it's at people want to buy gear. And so they get something they get a knife. They get a pack they get a water purifier and they think that's the bee's knees and they don't have any problems now and that couldn't be further from the truth. Yeah, they don't test the gear going back to a previous podcast. Podcast that you and I did on How to Train go back and listen to that one. Yeah. Basically if you have no gear on how to get it set up and test it and and all that good stuff. So but yeah, we see that all the time, you know gear solves all the problems and man. I'm a gearjunkie. I love gear. I love knives. I love packs. I need to sell about 20 packs and make room for some more I guess but I just got another one you've been so kind of no one ever wins. I've known you man. Hey just a reference. What Tracy did that spot? Cast number two man, you're going back to the old days how to prepare so you don't die in the outdoor you yeah, that's a that's a that's a really good podcast man. That's got that was crammed full of information. Hey and while we're at it, hey, let me say this real quick if you're listening right now subscribe, please. Oh, yes, please grab can't I can't I can't even explain how important it is, but maybe I'll say this if you subscribe even if you don't listen to the every single podcast that really helps Tracy and I out so please please subscribe to the podcast. It's very very helpful. Craig were setting a 30 minute 39 minutes. Let's do one quick one and then we'll we'll go ahead and close this out as podcasts like one waiting to and I do this all the time, you know, we're lives are hectic running around waiting to the last minute to pack and when you're in that hurry to get packed up and get out on a trail you will Overlook something guarantee. I got another story for you you would have that's why I was waiting. Amen, two classes ago. I was teaching the survival class. You weren't at this one. I want to ask when I as soon as I say this you're going to go. Oh man, my boots were muddy from something. I had done that week and they were sitting outside and I was going to pick them up on my way out the door. And guess what you left them at the door. I left him right there at the door. So I had to do a whole class in those stupid Crocs that everybody makes fun of me for the whole class and I'm telling you man. It was a good learning experience for me. Yeah. Yeah. I'm yeah and I know it's weird but I hate wearing boots. I mean, I hate it. I absolutely hate wearing boots at this point of my life. I've been wearing boots since I was knee-high to a grasshopper and I've just gotten tired of wearing them. So I usually have like on some slip on shoes around the house or something and I'm driving slip on shoes and I'm this not most tactical cool thing, but nevertheless I left my boots at the house and had to do the whole class and trucks and that's that's just straight-up stupid because I did exactly what Tracy is telling us not to do waited to the last minute and when you're in a hurry, you just don't think I just don't think I think that finishes out anything else you need to add to it now, let's do that for Part 1 what's okay. Let's go ahead and send us out of here. And then we'll come back for part two for everybody's listening. We're going to be doing this and I don't know thinking now Tracy is probably definitely going to be a three part Series in it. Yeah, I think so. So this has been before you hit the trail some common mistakes that people have made hope you've found some things that can help you very important, wherever you're listening if you pick this up off of our Facebook or Instagram or Facebook groups or on the website website has the ability to comment on it. Out to on the blog post then throw yours in there to throw in some common mistakes. So that as we always do it nature line school because in nature line school, we always come on join in. Let's learn together.
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