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Great and I didn't and like the whole time. I didn't look at fucking Twitter I all once it was amazing. It was amazing and then I got on the plane I come home and I get off the plane and it's his meal and you know, I look at Twitter and it's just like boom back to reality a bunch of fucking assholes. Yeah. Let me not everyone on Twitter. I Actually, no, but God, yeah a decent amount, you know, like only either just have everyone up and you're wrestling Twitter. This person's piece of shit that person this, you know, Randy Rhoads misspoke this person did like holy shit. Yeah. Well, at least you had a nice couple of days about New Hampshire about Triple H's 50th birthday. Wow, yeah. Yeah, man, so it was a you know, it was a okay. Yeah, it was his 50th birthday. And so it was kind of I mean it was a real intimate Affair but there was no more. I don't know there was there might have been over 50 but not much. Okay as far as how many people were there. Hmm, and that was like Paul says the only people you know, right actually like it could have been a lot here lot bigger. But yeah, you know, I actually like and I see a lot of people I think got their feelings hurt for that matter. But yeah, but you know, yeah, so what did you guys do? Fuck? I forgot my head the the itinerary. I should have brought that January because there was a whole itinerary like yeah that had everything laid out. So I got there before anyone like, you know, the only person that got there around the same time as me because I flew in the night before, you know having to come, you know from out here and La I took a red-eye and I got about eight o'clock boy. I'm really going in the detail here on yeah, we want to know the details. Seriously through yeah, so yeah, I get there and you know Scott was already coming in later. So I'm like I'll just fucking get there myself and so but my license is expired and I'm waiting to get that taken care of so I couldn't rent a car. So I took it Uber two and a half hours. Oh shit. Yeah. I'm assuming that was pricey wasn't cheap. But you know, it was fine. Whatever. Yeah well worth it and to this beautiful. Town in New Hampshire with amazing. Like it's it's one of the most beautiful places I've ever been in my life and I'm not going to actually give the name of the town. Okay, so because I don't want people like showing up to the town and like, you know, I'm glad you said that because I was in fact. Wow, what a fucking just it was amazed. Like there was just it was kind of like a boutique hotel like old you could tell it was really like, Old you know for maybe the even eighteen hundreds and the update of the little bit nose right on the lake and there might have been tended 40 rooms total air and you know wasn't cheap to stay there. Yeah, totally so she's thanks Jeff just totally just stack the fuck out of me and tell me. Oh, don't worry about me the 40 rooms. Oh, yeah. Where was I after I was completely totally distracted them the 40 rooms. They were nice. If yeah, beautiful and you know, I got there early so they weren't ready for me. And so I didn't get a room with the balcony. Oh damn put a beautiful view but like Scott was right underneath me and he had a balcony that was where I had to go to do the things that he and I do sure anyways, so the first like the only other person I got their same time as me was I had him Jones? I don't know if you know. Ooh, that is from a tool. Yeah, awesome. Awesome. Yeah, one of the greatest guitar player ever. Yeah, absolutely. So yeah, Adam was there he and I you know, we caught up talked a little bit. Nice. Let's go up on was there with his wife fuck-ups not watching. Did you and Scott get more of that time on the balcony? Like I know it was crazy. There was oh that yeah, we have more of that yet, but Okay. Yeah. So where the fuck was I you got to your room. You didn't have a balcony that's what was born myself until I walked around the area like when you know, I don't know if you saw that got posted. I'm about ready to fuck up. This lobster roll didn't see that. Yeah, how was it was a good it's great. Yeah, it was so good, but they had another one like they had a full like pound you can order a pound like a one pound Lobster all my God 40 50 Buck. I just didn't have enough room. I got right but I yeah, I know so I walked around and and excuse me. That was for the ass. Hold on my fucking YouTube comments that called me a junkie and I don't read them very much. But you know complain about ripping that was for you go. Fuck yourself dickhead amazing. So where was I you are eating the lobster long ago, but so I never perish or had one pair ugly ass shorts would be that I've had for like two years the fucking barely. They only started fit me again when I put some weight back on but so I went to look for some shorts, you know the gift shop and you know, they had some like really ugly ass shorts that were like $100 and on my uh, uh can see they this town that for the fucking poor poor people to come vacation at that's for sure. So not only Lee I got a hundred bucks but they're ugly as fuck to of course above the knees like four inches above the knee, you know, those kind of shorts are ya so I might as well just stick with my ugly shorts. How about to say if you I thought you were going to actually buy the short? Okay, you know like I'm too cheap, but I was just like they've got to be nice. Yeah mean I got to be decent shorts on my pay that much. Yeah. So yeah fascinating story there but the shorts let's get into like the the cars so, you know by about eight eight o'clock. Kevin's got arrived and and then we had dinner downstairs and it was nice. It was real nice. Sean came down Shawn Michaels The Heartbreak Kid, but I call him Shawn rough Garth, you know fucking stupid. Well, I'm being really stupid today folks and I'm enjoying it. Bear with me, but now the stage said To set up your shown us the I'm not even close to being Mega. Just hold your horses time. Fuck you. Like I'm ready for the party. Okay, so why are people start showing up Matt Bloom came off? You know, I wasn't lying people are I'll get to all came in a second because the next morning at 11 they started these so this is a place Like we're you know her as a home on the Lake Hundred stuff and you know, they come there once in a while. It's not their Main Place blows fucking beautiful. Oh my God, awesome. So they everyone got shuttled over from the hotel to his place and we just hung out there for the first part of the day till like 4:00 or 5:00 o'clock. Tons of jet skis boats the go. Carts there was like, you know that the it's a really big thing now is like throwing axes. I'll share, you know at the boat at the targets. And so they had that set up. You know, of course Vince was fucking then scab. They're all over there just admit. It was looking pretty darn. Yeah, that's was jacked when he showed up. Fuck. Yeah. Oh my God, you look incredible hoof walking around like, you know all bowed up and shit like making sure everybody's let me fucking tricep need anyways, but he definitely had cool shorts. That is what you're trying to say. No, he's definitely nothing cool about anything. He was where he just looked really good. Yeah. So anyway, see how it's so bad. Man, they must have had a ton of lobster meat there. It was just like if you like lobster and I do you in fucking Heaven. I mean there was just I can they must have bought up every fucking ounce of lobster me and Old State of New Hampshire. Yeah. It was just it was so great Ric Flair was there. So like later on hey, so put few of the pictures up. Well, that's that's petite, you know Batista showed up but could fucking photo bombing in the background chatter. Let's keep dancing Dave in a while. I share especially had a chance to tell him how much I enjoyed Hotel Artemis. Oh, yeah. Can we talk about that? No, I don't think I was I was on anyways. Yeah, it was great seeing Dave, so Dave tells me He's going and he's going to remember the first time we met and that's something I always ask people, you know, because I usually do and and he's gone. Remember what you said to me and I'm like waiting for like some profound thing. I told him that fucking inspired him to do and he goes he looked at me and said you're not a narc. Are you I'm like, what the fuck are you did I really? And I was joking upper right is laughing. I can't imagine why the fuck I would have to ask him that I'm obviously the fed and respond. I don't remember that but obviously it happened because you are stuck in his mind and I was obviously just fucking with them especially like at the time. He's like 340 or 350 right dress. That's how I was going to ask like around. What time did you first meet them? So bwok bwok? Can't we would show up to Louisville or two TVs in that area and he'd be there right but Dave's so yeah, that's the wrong picture. Like that's it's actually during the night of yeah. Okay, here's a picture of us had we were you know on the boat we were talking about and so it's just it was great looks really nice. Really really really Breezy. Yeah people at home that are that are watching this. Yeah, that's right. Seriously. Yeah, that's great. Shawn. I'm always on their Scott and I I used to I used to be ripped like up until WrestleMania. I think Romania my God fuck. I'm just going to get along. It's sure that looks awesome. Yeah, and then okay, so oh that's a picture of that's a picture of Bray Wyatt and his beautiful, baby. And Braun strowman that was from Rob Union. I love that somebody posted that already. So that's great. But anyways, so later on after you know the day at the lake. We went back to the hotel for a few hours and got ready for the festivities and the evening and then we went to their Farmhouse which was like, you know, like just you know, I don't know. On the same property enough fuck. Sorry quit fucking calling me and texting me. Anyways, The Farmhouse. Yeah the farm out so that so that the barn set up and then this big like temporary structure set up next to the barn. I'm going to fuck. And then apologize got are there something in the barn? I'm not supposed to see right. So they had you know, all the tables lined up and I at our table was myself Scott care of Sean the Nature Boy Ric Flair and his lovely wife Wendy. It was a nice table became well, yeah, it was definitely the coolest table. And so they had a band there and you know what? I just kind of heard there was going to be a special guest and and I'm like, you know, I didn't recognize this band a my guess is that some they didn't I just not knowing fuck they are there was good, but it wasn't that wasn't the surprise. So after the band played, you know, we went outside and stuffs like hey look over here often to the to the tree line and like it has like a quarter of a mile. Way or another side of the trees all the sudden man look like there was an invasion of fucking UFOs coming up out of the tree line hundreds of drones and the militant nitrites and they all light up just slowly raised above the tree line and then the music starts and like all these cool all this cool shit happened and then like two DX music plays and there's this big DX thing in the sky what you know drones and they said it was amazing. Like if you look up if you go on YouTube and look up drum light show, you'll see something similar to it, you know, it was absent and there were cars stopping on the side of the road freaking out like there must have been fucking we're finally being you know, first Contact folks. Well with all the talk of Area 51 right now. I'm not surprised. That was the first thing on people's mind. But that's also cool with that. The surprised that they were saying was just one of them so then we went back inside and sat down and you know, there was a few things. You know everyone, you know, exchanging pleasantries and all that and Paul said a few words and then excuse me, that's another one for you la la whatever. Maybe we should start a counter but tastes great. So and then stuff goes ladies and Gentlemen, please help us welcome, you know one half of the founders of Creedence Clearwater Revival and I'm thinking we get the other guys like me with and he goes chop. She goes John Fogerty and I shit. I couldn't even fucking believe it everyone dead. Holy shit. Look, John Fogerty, is it as a legend among Legends every fucking song he did and he made an hour like hour and a half easy and every song everyone knew the words to and like a couple songs in he brought out Billy Gibbons from ZZ Top and they did, you know Fandango and like, you know sharp-dressed man having you know, Billy. He flew in from Spain just for the party and then flew back out this pain all my sin, right? Yeah, and it was just a legendary fucking evening. It was amazing and I'm not enough just gives away after party after that anyway, so yeah, this stage setup was pretty cool. I know they have Triple H's logo on the top, isn't it? Correct up on the top so we can kind of see it on the photo, but I thought that was pretty awesome. I don't know why the pictures look so dark. They don't like they weren't that dark when I sent them. Anyways, yeah, and there was a picture of I guess that was just up there like Hunter and Shaun and John Fogerty and me. Anyway, awesome. Hey, I'm Kevin. I had served for a when you guys sat down for the dinner. It's because I was just had too many I've too much red meat lately, right? So it's sort of just had you know prime rib Prime of Cyril sort by different thing chicken. Mmm. It was amazing and I know we got these we got these lovely parting gift bags. And bunch of shit in there like she do an MBA, you know will water bottle. Anyway. Yeah. Well, so yeah, it was fun. Yeah, and I can't thank I can't thank stuff and And honor enough for you know having us out there was you know, it was Paul's birthday, but it felt like it was our fucking buries it seriously. It was just it was like one of the greatest weekend I've ever had. What was your favorite part? um Wow. Besides John Fogerty recognize. You know, I just my favorite part was just everybody in an environment where we could just you know, just breathe right Vince was there Linda are you know, I've learned that John Fogerty played I'm dead Linda and I are dancing like it was crazy. Right, but he's just, you know, letting loose and and dances out there Cuttin a rug with staff and it was great fucking dude. Got some moves go back go back and watch remember the remember when they had to First breast lab when you guys weren't alive then wrestling album. I'd I do remember how everyone they have the bank like kind of like a Slammy. I don't know if they called it the same he's backed it. But anyways, Vince came out and see how he did if you only knew what I'm gonna do to you you ever hear that song and he did it. Did you see when he performed it Irish dancing has the moves everybody him to stand back. Yeah, so, oh, no you if you only knew was the one everyone did yes. Yes Ventus song was stand back. Yeah. Yeah. So I guess the main thing was just everyone. Yeah, just spending time together good man. Oh my God. Can I just please turn this fucking phone all the way around? Well, honestly, it sounds like a lot of fun and like just from the pictures that I've seen. I'm just like dang like they you know, they Only when all out really put the thing together and it looks really cool some events. Yeah for watching the street. Hey, and that's no joke like I mean, so that was only we can dance. Yeah. Oh, yeah, that's awesome. Anyways, hey, did I already say who the guest was? Enemy? No. No. Yes. Yeah, I get a little bit we're gonna be joined in Studio by a boy in his dining. Yes or so excited. Yeah, they're gonna be here in a few minutes. So that was why my phone was going off like so they're not here yet. You want to talk about somebody shit and then talk about the new some of the news we have we don't have that much but let's go ahead and talk about some light some light-hearted newest. I guess you can say WWE Studios and Netflix are teaming up for the Big Show show. It starts in LA on August 9th as I believe the date that they start shooting essentially. It's a multicam comedy series 10, half-hour. So it's and it's description comedy Eleanor coffee. Well, from what I understood. It's kind of like a like a like a may be scripted. So forgive me if it's a comedy series. I don't know how it can be not just arrived and his two daughters. So I kind of first it sounded to me like it was like a reality thing. But yeah your face I think it sounds like it could be like a reality show just kind of like there's a loose framework of the stuff that they get into or whatever and they just kind of roll. So I think it's Scripted I'm looking here and there are showrunners attached. It's a multicam production. So nice. It's pretty interesting to kind of see this this step that's being taken. So there's so much like there's so much more to Paul Wight aka Big Show, then being a giant right? Yeah, you know all that. I mean, I don't know if y'all have ever seen any of his appearances since day one when he appeared like on talk shows like ladder men Orlando or any of that stuff he fucking Hold it right when he was out there his personality and just his Charisma and his has you know his sense of humor. Yeah, and I was comedic timing. I just makes total sense. Yes, every involvement even when he was the giant, you know, having roles in movies like jingle all the way in the water boy things like that, like people knew early on just how charismatic he was. He was he was big show when he was in water boy. Oh was he? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it was General all the way and I'm thinking of but yeah, that's that's why he's had such longevity at this point, you know the fact that he's able to do whatever with whatever is given to him and make it entertaining. Yeah, so that'll be good. That'll be exciting. It's pretty cool. It sounds to me like they're going to be doing a couple more stuff with Netflix because one of the other things that was announced was that they're going to be making a family movie in 2020 called the main event. That's all the information I have so far on that but it seems like me might start seeing more stuff on. And I think that's pretty cool. Hey top streaming service out there, right? So I was just looking at Twitter on the way here and I saw that Joe men and in Elgin was amended now low Vince Vaughn Big Show and like some other famous people all you've heard of or fucking having a game of Dungeons and Dragons, I guess Joe Manganiello is the deal. That was the dungeon master awesome. So that was going on. I don't know what that was for. But it looked like fun. Yeah, I don't want that for sure. Yeah. All right. Let's go into some of the raw highlights that let's talk about some of the main things that happen. So Ricochet is now going to be facing AJ Styles for the u.s. Title at SummerSlam this all started with a gauntlet match Rey Mysterio defeated Cesaro who then went on to meets to defeat Sami Zayn and then it was undoubted forces Ray, but I'm glad they won that and then it was Ricochet versus Andrade and then Ricochet ended up beating Andrade for this spot. It was a nice. The you match it was really nicely done and there was a we got a lot done in that. Absolutely. I mean Cesaro is so phenomenal just in general, but when you put them in there with the the best high flyer of all time, and he's able to Basin and all that but also we got to we got to plant a seed 400 a and Ray. Yes, it's possible hair versus mask match that's read about and you know and in all Also, we got to build Ray back up after looking not so great couple weeks ago over the open challenge debacle, right? But it was a categorical this this whole thing was what about a half hours worth of of just awesome strong wrestling curious to see what the ratings are for that segment. Absolutely. Yeah, the the word going around us that this is this is kind of the most heavily. I guess Amon and Foods raw of this sort of New Era and I And you can tell for sure you can definitely tell it's simply by the guys that you're seeing where the talent that you're seeing highlighted on the show moving on from that. We had Maria Kanellis who is now the first pregnant woman to be the 24/7 Champion. That was another thing that occurred essentially my Kanellis one it when they all did the pile up and and in the end he came out like running and so he was the winner of that but then afterwards backstage in the locker room she went in and was like, oh this is for our baby and she puts her healing him brings the referee. He has to lay down for her and she gets the pin then she comes out and walks all the talent because none of the talent wants to attack a pregnant woman, obviously, so she's now the champion. So yeah, you know, I've made my feelings known about this and I think you know, maybe I'm just one of the people that's fallen for like, I mean, I hate this and and and I think maybe that's because that's what they're trying like. I'm it's working on me too. Right, right. Can't make it. Yeah, but and and I don't know like to what end. I mean, that's okay. It's providing, you know some it's like putting your asses in seats, but it's I'm hoping you know, it's something that you know looking for the Silver Lining. I'm hoping that it's at least getting people to maybe tune into to a five lives. He what Mike's doing over there. She's doing really good stuff on Tuesday night. Yeah. I just hate seeing them get fucking neutered every goddamn not crazy about this either, you know. And maybe that's just because I'm a dude and you know, you know, we don't like to whatever right? I wonder how long she's gonna last with about because how do you take off the belt, you know off of her right now because obviously no one's going to go and attack her, you know, so they're gonna come up with a creative way to do. So, you know, yeah, one of the other things that happened is we have new raw Tag Team Champions and Luke Gallows & Karl Anderson are no Champions. Yeah. Yes good. That's a good move. Yeah, absolutely deserve it this and it's the least I can do after those guys getting buried my asshole eat before right? Yeah. Yeah. Hopefully we can keep they can keep building the the Tag Division Out and because God knows there's there's enough good teams that need to be, you know, spotlighted and focused on so, yeah, hopefully yeah the step in the right direction right call right time as well. Yeah. Right and then one of the other things that happened we had Brock Lesnar severely attacked Seth Rollins where it was in the ring and then it even went backstage where that he was taken out of the ambulance. He was attacked. So what's the deal? I don't like I mean, it was good stuff. Just get me wrong, but I'm wondering what the motivation is here. Like I already can't let's see. I mean, what's he don't even know you don't have any cash in and I feel to me to cheer to me on a sort of a meta level. I feel like the motivation is just making Seth especially lately since Seems like he's kind of been losing some of the Goodwill that he had made me making him more sympathetic. I was what I thought yeah when I see that I'm like, okay. I see what they're doing right now, like little sympathy little extra sympathy. Yeah, maybe like and this is also just the best way to use Brock Brock is in his element when he's just a sheer force of nature just destroying shit. And so this is what people are going to tune in to the Army. It was a little hard first to get into the back into the storyline with Brock and Seth simply because we had already seen them go at it at Wrestlemania. You know and that was kind of like, you know, sometimes it's kind of like the wrap it up. Okay, this happened now, we're going to move on to you know, new opponents, etc. Etc. And so it kind of took a while to sort of for me to get like back into it. But sort of the things that have been happening the past few weeks made me kind of like, okay, like I see what's happening here. You're getting my interest back again. At least he did a good job. I mean he fucked him up. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah God that 5 onto the gurney. There is one of the room into the poster outside. Like fucking he's like a big old pile of like a big sack of shit. And then the momentum I guess you can say of that sort of continued on for the ending of the show with the brawl that started off with with Samoa Joe and Roman Reigns and then turned onto a fool out bra a brawl clothing out raw. Yeah, and and we got that giant leap from Cedric Alexander off the off the set. Good Lord. Yeah. I'm hoping that this is that we continue seeing Cedric I know like put on this level. I like seeing the mixture of these of you know, the guys that were on to live mixing. What else have you way? So as long as he don't drop the ball don't it's it'll be a lot easier, you know for them to think Chance on others. Yeah. I was just like what I came in as 1-2-3 Kid had I have dropped the ball on that. Who knows if next time they would have taken a chance on some little skinny fucker. Write that song All right, what else anything? That's pretty much it for our new segment do want to go into our break now and then come back with our guest. Let's do it. 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They're making They're getting a lot of Buzz right now at deservedly so and you know, they were either they've been seen on a ew, and it's a boy and his dinosaur Jack Perry and muchas Horas Make Some Noise. Whoo. It was a pop huge pop. Thank you guys. What's going on here, man, and I'm Jack I met you a few times. Yeah, just like so everyone knows I remember when I met you you haven't Ali had any matches yet, right. You were kind of just yeah. I was immature best from Hollywood a little bit Yeah. I hadn't wrestled there and I was hoping to yeah, I remember that meeting, you know, something like I remember you telling me like there was some issue at your shoulder. I'd spring my AC joint and it's funny because I actually just did that to the other one. But yeah, I was I was wanting to get on TV there now setting up the ring and all that. But yeah, that was a bummer cause it took a couple months with a shoulder and everything. Yeah, and yeah. And you know at that point he got a bunch of different people on your ear. Yeah, you should be doing this you should be doing that and but but I've known you a long time. Yeah for for a minute or two. Yeah, and but I didn't realize that you guys had a history like a lot way before people realize but yeah, we were we started training at the same time out here in Los Angeles about 10 years ago, right? Yes. Um, yeah. I was in college. To now is about 10:00 or 11:00 yesterday. Yeah, I was a little older than that. But yeah, we start training the same time and it's kind of cool that we've you know, we've always kind of found our way back to train together when I went to took a couple years off and did like reality TV. Yeah back to Lucha. I was training again. We found each other training the same place again. So it's always kind of we always met back and it's finally cool that we've been able to put it together. Right? Did you guys always have that instant chemistry together, or was it sort of found once you guys started? It together at aw. Well, actually we the first time we ever team together was what bar wrestling right? Yeah for Joey Ryan. Yeah, we yeah, we kind of I've known him forever and we would you know, we would cross paths here and there but it was never something that I really thought about. Um, and you know, he wasn't always Lucha Soros really and then it kind of was a Jerry's idea. Well, I think he was pretty much I think it was Joyce idea. Yeah, we thought we really wanna put you guys together. I think that would be funny. I think he called it a boy and his - yeah, and I thought it was Cool, but I didn't I didn't think was as cool as it turned out being yeah, I remember someone tweeting. Like, how can we please have you ride to the ring on food sources shoulders. I was like sure you know what and the first time we did that people went nuts. Yeah, and it was like an wrestle or do anything people go nuts off that which is so cool. It was when I came out to the ring with him on my show. I was looking around and people were just like so happy watching this. I'm like, this is really interesting, but they're getting such a good good feeling out of He'll stuff. Yeah, so it's cool right away. And I okay until we talked about this. I'm gonna just gonna yeah put out there there's and it's not like it's not like you're the new Kane and X-Pac but there are because you're not your fucking boys die. So yeah, it's different. Yeah, but I kind of felt like when I first saw it, I kind of felt a lot of similar feelings. Yeah, you know, and I was studying That when I say we started teaming right away. I was like only listen those matches because that's kind of the that's the psychology of the team really. It's the big guy who's kind of like the Misunderstood monster teaming with the guy who's well, actually he's got a different thing because he's the jungle board. He's the only one who understands me, I guess because he's from the jungle kind of Found Me In the Jungle stuff like that, but it's the same kind of dynamic. Yeah, and it worked then and it's you know, it's working now on a different level. Yeah. I was I was going to ask about that because you don't usually see a lot of teams. With with such kind of a size discrepancy was it difficult sort of, you know coming up with with double team offense or things like that. I think it's been pretty easy. Yeah, I like it. It lets us kind of do I mean he can do more the power stuff obviously, but it kind of gives us interesting stuff to do that. I feel like a lot of teams aren't doing. Yeah and also, you know, we both, you know can do like flip things as well. So there's a lot of ground we have even covered with some double teams, but it's like will shoot ideas back and forth and then it's like all about this. What about this and it's like we feel like we can pretty much do things that no one has ever done before because of that size difference and because of our range of ability. Hey, so when I team of Cain, obviously I took the heat every night. That's right. We got a smaller guy object get some hot tags in there. Yeah. So how does it work when I fart promos go? Well, as of right now jungle boy happened to him yet to speak properly. I'm still we're still doing the lectures. You know, I'm working. It but in the meantime, I do the talking super-intelligent done yet. I need a talking and he kind of just you know, mimes it and repeats after me or if you disagree. So tell me and I understand some of his jungle talks. He'll whisper my are some things that you know, people would understand. Thanks. So this is kind of like a little bit out there, but it's something that reminds me of you guys. Do you remember like back in the day? I don't know how old your but like when I was a kid. There was this thing called Sid and Marty Krofft superstars. They had like fucking HR pufnstuf Land of the Lost things like that and they had one called Bigfoot and Wildboy. Oh, okay. Yeah and it reminds me of you guys a lot that's looking at that. Yeah sure is and that's the the vibe that I got especially as wig fun while Brett them you say pull it up. What up, Jeff. He's like a Sasquatch. Yeah, especially yeah with being called a boy in this dinosaur it gave me Vibes of like like an 80s like Spielberg movie. Cannae tea or something like that bear names. We went to NXT. So Jack tell me the backstory of jungle boy the room backstory. Yeah, I never came up in jungle boy. And I remember because I trained when I was younger. Yeah, and then when I got into Middle School, I was ready to retire from wrestling and I kind of got into other stuff. Yeah, like school. Yeah girls and music and Middle School itself. So I kind of walked away from that and I ended up Up getting back into it kind of at the end of my high school and I didn't know what to call myself. I wanted to have I wanted to have a different name because I don't want to use my real name. Right and I say I remember they were asking me what they wanted my name to be and I stole this guy's name off The Ultimate Fighter and is it just a random name? And so I used to get super wet. I would just like douse myself in water. And so I'm out there my first match back super wet, and it's little warehouse and it was just I need a pop or anything. When I came out it was really kind of awkward and I'm waiting for the other guy to come out and I didn't know what to do and I'm a big Conor McGregor fan. Yeah, and I would always see that before his fights. You kind of crouched down like a monkey a little bit. I always thought that that's pretty cool. Like if I saw someone waiting to run across and kick my ass sitting like that. Yeah, so I thought I'll just kind of crouched like that and the pretty much the ring announcer. He just said he's like, I got a nickname for you and I said, okay, you know, whatever you want and he prayed. He made up the Jimboy thing right there. And when I first heard it, I was like this is so stupid. I cannot believe that you just did that to me. Well because I mean if yeah one might think oh, that's a really like, yeah something like that. You were named itself if it was 1980. Yeah comments like that, but no, it's cool though. I will yeah, that's you. Yeah, I'm so glad yeah because I've ended up kind of adapting my style and everything to the name of the thing I like about I was just it's so different kind of from what everyone else is. Yeah, and you know, I've got a lot of kind of grief about it over the years. I've been not put on certain shows because people have thought the gimmick was too Goofy and all that but you know, it worked out so it's not necessarily to be Garrick. This is his name and yeah, I mean some people take a really to literally I've had people tell me like, oh, well, you know that I everyone knows you're not really from the jungle so so so yeah, yeah. Really happy with how that's worked out. It's good shit. And I just I like how the whole thing's pretty absurd and kind of extreme but not people like it is exerting. That's a good part of yeah, and I think it's also we're not taking ourselves too serious with it. Like I feel like we're okay with you know, kind of some self-deprecation you see on being a leader or segments or funny, but then in the ring we want to actually have, you know, good matches and really show that we could go it's not just a comedy act. And so, you know, you guys put out videos. I can fucking whole food that to exactly like that's all great shit man. Yeah, that's that's talking about. It's like we're OK with kind of just being absurd with the gimmick going and there's there's little things like that even just the way that you present yourself on Twitter just like from the perspective of this dinosaur, you know, yeah, and it's like my story is kind of similar to his is that like I didn't like the name necessarily people start chant when I came out at Lucha underground as V Bora the snake guy. Yeah, the crowd is chanted it like that was the first day they were Okay. Muchas Horas at me and I was talking to my friend Johnny Mundo. John Morrison. Yeah, and he's like dude you should just run with that on the India's, you know, you're not you don't have any that was going on right now that you're going to get some traction from loot underground hopefully, so why try to create it was like, you know what you're right and it's same thing people thought it was too goofy. Sometimes I couldn't get book because of it, but over time I stuck with it. I developed my own character in the ring based on the name and it's kind of like we've met with the same kind of thing at the right time. Yeah, and and your and you really like yep near game, you know use Typically, I see what you're doing in there and see the work you put it in and like, you know here are your been training a lot Taekwondo? They leave you can really tell ya. I do a lot of I like to hate being taught by anybody at this point in my life. I'm really bad at being coached. I will take suggestions from anybody but when it comes to actual training I need to be in charge of it. Otherwise, I'm just not motivating them. But when I am tearing myself, I will do it Non-Stop and When I found one of my friends who's a stunt guy, his name's Albert. He does like he's done Superman. One of the top stunt guys in Hollywood. And he's one of my best friends. And when I tore my bicep at Lucha underground the next day he came over and he said hey, let me show you these kick position drills from Taekwondo drills and he has shown me what they do this this and this and for the next three months, that's all I could do. And by the time I was healed like I had this whole new offense based on the Taekwondo and it started letting me find better spots to put my gymnastics that already had its matches and I also I start to figure it out for a monster. After to make more sense, and as soon as I start clicking with that kind of stuff it translated better to the audience. I started out and take one dough as a kid and that's like honestly I would have made it in wrestling if I didn't have that background. Yeah, obviously, right you guys have seen and I just there the kitchen thing cuando are really like perfect for wrestling. They are their show and they're safe. They can't keep me you can do whatever you want. Yeah, but potentially you can you can control your doing not Way more than like, you know what just Muay Tai Chan kill somebody. Oh, yeah. I wish I've been hit with and Rings. Oh, thanks so much about you know, you guys have some impressive showing so far people mainly have seen, you know, they W stuff like that. It was like a god like it it was you guys versus help me out. Here is the dark order. Yeah Garden Jack Evans and in hell. Yeah. It was cool you guys, you know You Know Jack Evans and live with me in Mexico to be in there Jack because great. I've just been watching these things forever and it was he's a man yeah and we hit it with this finishing move of ours that was a perfect guy to do it the debut it and everyone's loving the move and he just I didn't know going forward, you know, it's a really cool move but no one can know I could do a check into it. And yeah, so hopefully we can make it still as good as what Jack and do he's one of the most talented guys, you know, I've been in there with hey, so talk to me about any challenge. As you had as a team so far, you know what I mean putting, you know put matches together with other games this the thing is when we have very specific smile and unless he's thinking of something specifically, you know, we're not allowed. Yeah, I'll I'll say this it's there's a lot of responsibility when you're doing television it's different amenities and you know, you have to protect a character and still, you know, make sense of matches make, you know be make it. Happy in this for me is difficult because I have this giant monster character that needs to do certain things, you know, the Undertaker, you know, he tells people hey, you know, sorry, I you know, I can't take your moves. I might completely know sell them and then I got to give you all my power moves. It's like I'm talking to go to the locker room and tell somebody but better get used to it, but you better get yeah. Yeah, that's what he's got to do too. So, you know, it's so far things have been actually great. You know, it's not you do that is because office wants me working strong. Really. Sorry guys. That's it. Yeah, that's how it starts the next thing, you know, it's you know, what the whole locker rooms, you know? Yeah, but it's so far. We haven't had we only have one match at aw, right? I think yeah, it's technically so it hasn't gotten into any, you know create and there was pretty cool too he W, so when you were both in the Battle Royal we were yes, you know prior to in the mood for that. That was crazy. Yeah are stressed out about that. Yeah, because it wasn't even a normal Battle Royal. It was like five people every five minutes. Yeah, so it's kind of like a Royal Rumble but that was so stressful how many people had so many different pieces? Yeah. It was definitely Parts time crunch. They had, you know, we were running short of time. I had the last second was asked to do a lot more than one person like fuck something up. It could fucking have ramifications throughout the rest of the match moving forward any time is left, but some of the ripple effect that good night Dan certain people like Billy Gunn for example is in there the whole time. Just melt the direct travel. Yeah. Yeah, that's that we needed that and those are those matches are really more difficult and I realize and it's on TV and it was the biggest audience I've ever performed in front of ya. So there's a lot of things going on in your head. Just trying to get it done and to make a fool of yourself. Well, one of the things I remember specifically about that show I was there alive and when you guys came out because you guys came out together during that portion was automatically the thing that I noticed was the size difference between you guys and everybody kind of just had that moment in the They were like whoa, like that's a really, you know, like the big difference. I thought that's one of the things that attracted people right away at that specific day. And then one of the things I noticed also to was a crowd reaction to you during that match was really really incredible as well. So like it was a lot of different things that I think sort of intertwined together, but I want to kind of know with you guys sort of, you know, going out there and talking about being a part of like the biggest show that you guys have done. What do you attribute those positive crowd reactions that you guys are getting to who do you think um, you know, I think I think it's it's partially because it's so different but it's something that like we're kind of appealing to the little kid in everybody I think and it's just something it's so wrestling is kind of so what it it's like so serious in a lot of ways and everyone's like just a straight on badass like bass kick or whatever and this is just I think every one ever wants to do to writing the dinosaur It Sick we've all thought about that and it's just Yeah, I think that's what you said before is like the gimmick is kind of absurd but it's absurd in a way that you want to watch it. And then what as well I think as long as we get into the ring, we actually can perform and do it. Well, then it's like okay. I really want to root for this because it's so different and so fun wait, they're doing good in the ring now. I'm right down under percent sold. Yeah, so there's an interplay of both. So I take it seriously to make sure that our performances are always really on point and we do the best work we can with the characters and make the most sense of It but all the fun character stuff is so different. Like he said from anything else on the show, and we wanted to keep exploring that and creating things in different ways to get people to feel like it's Disneyland or something, you know about your question Denise. Like honestly, I think that's what that's why you get their reactions you get is because of the character work that you've done and the you know, you know just the P it's resonating with the people and that's how that's why I like. I mean that's what it takes, you know, being part of that of that battle royal on such a big stage. Did you guys feel any pressure as far as like, aw kind of being untested by that point? Oh, yeah. I mean there was definitely a I wanted to definitely show what I could do a little bit because I was kind of a late addition to it and there was not necessarily a talk of us teaming together yet, and we really believed in it at this point, and we wanted to least get some time in there together and have a moment to let them know. Know how this could be a really cool thing. I think we got that across with the limited time. We had that that was my goal is to make sure that me and him did something so that people could see the interaction of the chemistry. Yeah. We went in there like a whole wheat whole wait a whole Battle Royal of our own planet and then we get rid to narrow it down to one thing, but it was cool. It was I wish we were talking about the other day, but we can I feel like we kind of changed the course of events there because I don't know if we would have been team or what but after we had that moment. It was kind of solidified I think. So maybe you think that they weren't necessarily married on the idea of you guys being a team, but you guys, you know, yeah, I mean we had a good discussion about everyone there was no like kind of concrete anything but I think then when we had that moment that got that reaction. I think they sold it this good. Yeah double or nothing. I was probably gonna my next showing with that was probably my TV started like they were going to wait and start building my character on its own and then all of a sudden I got the call so We want you to all the events and it was like and we put out those vignettes to like we followed up double or nothing like the supermarket little bunny been yet couple other ones coming out of the car. We were driving and like those is took off so much online with the fans and aw listen to the fans in a lot of ways on these things which no companies. Are they ever done before and everyone wanted to see it so bad. They're all right. We're going to have him come out with jungle. But this show okay, you guys are teaming at this show and it's just kept on picking up steam. Thanks Mom. Thanks to them like the listening. Hey, so have you guys watched watched it? It's back and picked it all apart. And I did this this where we need to work on this this or this was great. I know we need to keep doing that every time I mean, how is that process? I usually watch the staff at like the same night if I can. Yeah, we'll go back to the hotel and I'll send them clips and all that. Yeah, most of our techs are talks about moves or send Clips or whatever but where we've only really tagged. What is it like two times? Yeah, every time I got a couple like three three. Apple matches are six man tag. Yeah, it was or we even had a match. What was a four-way between us? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but we have only had like actually a concrete tag, where's his to actually only had one contact two versus two straight up. Also. I look forward to you know, once you guys actually a start having, you know, more and more matches seems like how tight you guys as good as a team. And uh, yeah. Yeah, this is cool. Well considering one of the things that aw has is a lot of talent attack. Thank you know we can name it we can name a few. So now I want to know for you guys that you know, you guys only have had so many matches as a tag team together. Do you guys feel pressure in terms of standing out in comparison to some of the other teams and wore some of the other teams that you guys kind of want to get ready to like roll with and start working with well, I mean obviously we'd love the rest of the Young Bucks. Okay. That's like the goal there he W is to have a match with the team but I don't think we feel the pressure now, I think once we got that first tag out of the way and we've had such. Such a great response and the crowd. So eager to see us I feel good about it. I'm just excited to show them what else we've got in store at this point. Yeah. So you guys do have some more tricks. Are you having to yeah we but we barely done any moves. Yeah, we have so many ideas for matches. Yeah, not the ones ooh. Yeah. We got too many. Yeah, we got to get a start here at down. I one of my friends that we would try them all on he's you know, he's gonna be hurting for a while Arlo from be - who's a local recipes? Yeah. He's coming up, you know, I trained with he trains with me. Got to credit him too like he shows up every week and like let me kick him in the face like they're fast if it wasn't for that I would not be where I was in the ring with some of my offense. So now he's been at every open ring I've ever gone to any wherever it's like this y % / yeah, he's a Non-Stop. He's just he just trans non-stop. Yeah. Oh, sorry. So one of the things obviously is that aw is super hot right now and people are talking about them and that's what you hear about in social media and wrestling news sites and all of that. So, I want to know what is the vibe with the talent backstage knowing that they're a part of something that is you know, very talked about right now. Yeah. Well, I've been a lot of locker rooms that like TV Lux I've been in like, you know, excuse locker room. I've been in Lucha underground. I did a Ring of Honor stuff added impact. So I've been around right now and the vibe of the aw locker room has really been my favorite about to say next I'm working there but it's just it's so relaxed. I have so many friends from across the rest of the world and of kind of come together now at this time, which is really cool I get to see them so I've never been in such a like non-political locker room, you know at least so far. Yeah. Well, who knows what you know what things have start happening but so far it's been very relaxed fortunately like, you know as the company grows, it's hard to avoid that stuff. Yeah, you know, I mean, it's just that's just part of the business but I mean that's that's just the way it is, man, and but I can be I don't know. I it doesn't have to be as Cutthroat as it was in the past four shots all you know. I hope I can imagine I don't know for me the way I summarize it people ask me that kind of like what's it like and I kind of I was just sound like you the Young Bucks or my bosses and that kind of tells you what I remember is asking that I think it was Nick the other day. I was like, I don't know. Maybe you think I should do this flip off the apron and he's like, yep, it's cool. Right? It's too much. Yeah. So you don't got a bunch of old fucks going on her lashes more? Yeah, I can buy it. Yeah, he's like no man. That's perfect. It's just a cool environment. That's fun. And you know, we'll see how it changes over time. But I think we have a really good I think with the box and Cody and Kenneth. I think they're just we have all the right people pushing in the right direction. So yeah, I like I like the I like the fact that it's all fresh mind. You know, I mean mind you guys. Okay, you got like irons around, you know, there's some guys as there with the old school like, you know experience and you know, all that mean really it's all fresh ideas. It's fresh ideas. I don't get some of that old school with the fresh ideas. That's when you start really create some great new things because we're doing the new school stuff, but they remind us of the little details that sometimes get lost in a new school. They have very important still so it's working out so far, but great. Thanks anything else. Yeah, but I want to go. Oh, yeah, I was I was going to ask, I mean, you mentioned your history with reality TV, did you When that happened did you sort of catch any Flack? How did that sort of affect your your career? It's kind of been completely separate really the reality stuff. I kind of did after NXT when I was injured and I didn't think I was going to wrestle again. It was 2013 when I left 14 my left wrestling and at that point it was still like the Andes were starting to get big but it wasn't to the point where you felt like at a career. They're so kind of least for me when I left there. I think okay. It's either WR there's nothing that was the mentality of a lot of guys. They're like you felt like if you didn't have it here, you're not going to have a wrestling career and it was it was scary. So then I went into reality and afterwards I thought there's no way I'm getting back into wrestler. I'm just too far behind but then I got a shot with Lucha underground who had the similar producers as Big Brother, even though they didn't really help me because they want to create this whole new character for me and get me away from all the big brother sure and XT stuff. So it's been separate but once I got back in it was like I still get recognized from the show in airports and stuff, but it's more or less its kind of the wrestling is a different crowd. It's different. Has a different Focus so it hasn't really affected it anymore. And it's let me kind of have perspective to of like two different worlds both in entertainment and still ways of approaching an audience. And I think it just helped me as a performer honestly in different ways that I would never have imagined. Yeah, definitely. Yeah. Well one of the things I wanted to ask just going back really quick to aw was separating yourself as a talent as a wrestler but more as a fan of wrestling. What is it that you guys want to see a would like to see, you know on weekly television for a pu Do you know for me I get its I don't watch wrestling anymore. I kind of got tired of the product. I guess that I was watching. I think it's just fresh and whether it's kind of the stories or the moves that people are going it's just it's so different than what's been out there. And you know, I think it has all the right things that people have been missing and it's just kind of just this like there's this energy in the air there that I can't really explain. It's everything is fresh and it's new and I think that's I think that's everything you can ask for kind of a jack when you say I don't watch wrestling anymore. Are you referring to just like the what's on TV right now? Because like, I mean, do you follow like what's going on? You know, okay, if there's a great match between Osprey and okada or or something like that we have why don't you keep how do you make sure your I know it's funny because it was actually it was like candy and Megan Cody in the Bucks you got actually back into watching. Wrestling I watch a lot of like clips and I don't want but so that's not that you don't know. You don't know what the fuck's going on. All right, I never sit down the roster Madonna better get home. That's right. Okay. Yeah. I thought that's what you meant by no. No, but II don't I don't watch the show. I guess it is and that's what I'm comparing this to but I don't know. Yeah, I think being backstage at a double or nothing and he Seeing that wrestling and hearing jerez what it was crazy because that reminds me of when I used to love to watch. Yeah and what it was like for me back then so to be a part of that like hopefully to just recapture that kind of energy. So the ferret like I mean, I know your dad was really supportive of your career, but was that something you guys did as a family watch wrestling for sure. He used to yeah, you take me to the show the whole family are just you two. It was mainly ask but my sister got me into and I mean ever my family my whole family is pretty supportive. So, So when I kind of was like full-on Angel that everyone was into it a bit. But yeah, we used to go to the shows and watch TV. And I said, yeah, do you have any memories of as a child like meeting different people? And yeah the first time I went we went he took me to like a raw and Anaheim Sarah and I remember I was a little kid down but I remember just seeing these how huge these people were and I couldn't believe it and I remember I remember she was one of the my dad met Dusty roads there and he full he was like nervous and shaky. He says like this is probably the only person I've ever been this nervous to me. Yeah, that's what he said when I met your dad and San Francisco. Yeah, we're in because he was telling Cody the yeah, right. Yeah that that was crazy for me to see kind. Yeah, but um, yeah, we used to go and swim in Nashville Nolan when Rory carp was on like not too long ago. He was sharing some stories about you know, you know, your dad's love for wrestling. Yeah, man. Yeah use end it. Yeah. So, um, well, you know, we're coming to the end of the show here. Do you guys have anything else you want to add? Yeah, I want to talk about a Battle of Los Angeles, please don't ya congratulations. How do you feel? I'm excited. I don't I kind of don't know what to expect because pwg is already so crazy it is as it is. So three days of them are we dead there's just a different like okay and say, you know your normal show like you have Natchez and locate the first match is is an opening match and right. It has two elements of an opening match and then the show builds pwg. It's the first match is balls to the wall. Just like the fucking mean a map. Yeah. Everyone's going out there just you know, and it's just it's an every matches his work like that. Yeah. That's that's been cool for me to its kind of pushed me and showed me how I remember the first time I wrestled Joey Janelle. I was really nervous because pretty much every match. He has like a pwg match. Yeah, and I kind of didn't I didn't know if I could go like that the whole way and but he brought it out of me and it kind of pwg and that it's like it's all kind of show me that I can hang with that kind of so. Do you get nervous? Like we can go out then? You're like, oh, I know they're expecting the world of me. And this last match just killed and over the next match is gonna kill it. I'm usually puking before we got there. Yeah, I always say I hate it right before I always want to quit. It's the worst part is right before you go through the Kremlin. I didn't really do that. Yeah, I mean it gets better but you still going to have that and that's just the type of yeah person. You are like it's something you have to deal with. Yeah, as soon as I got out the curtain, it's good. And I'm so happy. It's my favorite place to be but right before I always I always had this last time doing this let some cool out here. Yeah. Hey, what up? Look? What's before we go. Any you want to share any you know, you guys have a pita professing T store? How's that? Well, yeah forward because back then. Yeah. I think it's on the aw. I ain't some of the pro wrestling team for us. Yeah great W's merch but yeah boys dinosaur. Get up ya think. You'll be able to find some good social media. What's your social media handle share with the people. I'm at boy underscore main underscore Legend Twitter and Instagram. Yeah. My Instagram is now Lucha Soros my Twitter still Judas Draven. It will be Lucha Source sooner working on that. You know, that's what they do hoot. Yeah. Well a real quick get the so don't forget to follow us. @x pop One Two Three Sixty show Xbox One Two Three Sixty. Don't forget to check us out and subscribe on YouTube Spotify. Anchor were all over the place. Make sure to check us out. You can find me at time at these p.m. A Twitter Instagram. All right. Well you guys I don't even need that met him to tell you my social the shit. I but I but I am grateful that you guys tuned in today and and Jack muchas Horas. Yeah, whatever. You want to call you. I hear Austin he gonna be. All right. Anyways, I really Appreciate you guys taking the time to come in today. Thank you. Mr. Chairman, and I really I enjoy your stuff. I'm a fan of you guys and I'm really looking forward to seeing what you guys have for. Thank you door danger. All right everyone. See you right here next week. From executive producers Maria Menounos Keven undergaro Sean Waltman and the entire X Punk 1 2 3 60 staff. Thank you for tuning into Xbox One to 360. From executive producers Maria Menounos Keven undergaro Sean Waltman and the entire X Punk 1 2 3 60 staff. Thank you for tuning into Xbox One to 360.
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