Hey, hey. Hey, happy Wednesday everybody. Welcome back to Mommy group. This is episode 26 man. Am I excited that you're here today? Because today is a big day for us. Today is our very first interview. We're so excited. This has been the goal all along and we are just absolutely stoked to kick it off with you wonderful Sabrina Soto. So you guys probably know Sabrina from her million-and-a-half TV show Sabrina's been on Trading Spaces and Extreme Home Makeover countless HGTV shows. I mean Good Morning America.My family to talk the kitchen when you Williams like the list goes on and on and she generally is in the interior design space. That's really where her expertise lies before her Talent lies. You'll learn a lot about where that comes from from her family. It's a super interesting story and we talked a lot about being a single mom would she is and man that is no joke. She is one tough cookie. I really can't wait for you guys to hear this interview. If you like it. If you enjoy the podcast you enjoy the interview. We really hope that you'll help us grow. By rating the podcast subscribing to it reviewing it. And if you think there's a friend out there that might enjoy it please screenshot your phone and send them a text or post it on your social media. It really helps us grow and it does mean so so much to us. So thanks in advance and I hope you like this one. Okay, let's go. Where are we reborn Miami Miami, but we were I mean like every other Cuban in the world right now Cuba, but we moved out when I was three to New Jersey so I spent half my life in New Jersey have my life here in California. So from zero to three Miami, then three to like Junior High, New Jersey Junior High got it. Did you guys have family in Miami? Is that why you were? Yes, so my dad's whole side of the family in Miami. My mom's is in New Jersey. How cute. Yeah, wait, so then your how are you? What's your ethnicity both? My parents are Cuban. So I'm first generation American. Wow. Yeah, so they came they came from Cuba got it. And what's your siblings situation? My I have a sister. Who's my best friend? She's 20 months older than me and she's the best. He's like a unicorn. She has four kids only every day. Does she live here in California? She was yeah in Valencia. Yeah. She's awesome. What was your Dynamic with her as a young girl? Like we're you guys super close was there any like, what did you guys function? In the same space sometimes like I feel like my sister and I were super different. So we had these like separate identity paths. Yeah, but no guys, we were swell. She was way more sporty than I was I tried. I like my first cross-country me I grew up like this isn't for me. But no, we were closed except High School when she would like borrow my clothes without asking I think I kicked her in the face once it's no big deal. No, that's what happened. It happened. This is a risk, but we're super close. Like I actually think sometimes I'm a little The social with friends because I don't like I have her for the rest of my life. Yeah. Yeah. I love that though because you also I know Sabrina we met when we were like doing a pilot or something. Yeah the right and I remember I met you immediately and I was like, you're so much fun. And then Trish you and Trish were like bestest friend. Oh my God, I feel like the two of us together are amazing, but it's like she's your sister she is sister out. Here it is. I am so I'm so grateful for her friendship and she's been become especially like going through such hard times last year. She was My strength let's explain to him who doesn't know who Trish's is just a friend Racers. Trish suhr is a comedian and organizational expert. She used to be on a show called clean house. Yes, so she is really funny. She's from Kentucky. We couldn't be more opposite like seriously opposite Arena like locks and she looks like she may be just came off a Runway. Yeah, very chic. I'm just like Hey Y'all what's going on here, but they just like, you know you they want them to run separately and then they meet each other and like I love it, but she actually texted me. This how Coast because we didn't talk yesterday. God forbid and she's like, I feel like I'm missing my head answer your phone. Get out like girl. That's fantastic. Say a.m. This morning. That's fantastic. Oh, is that how close does your sister ever get jealous that your tonight? So close to Trish. Yeah, of course sometimes you know, and I think probably vice versa but they are both love each other as well. That's so sad. I think my sister just gets jealous that we Patricia and I get to spend so much time together only construes doesn't have kids I now so it's you know how that is. So growing up was our room. Yeah, I was gonna say so, you know, Remember much from Miami probably because you were still little so most of your childhood those images are from Jersey. So what what's childhood like in your house in New Jersey when you're six, seven eight years old lots of family over. I remember a lot of gossiping in the backyard. Unfortunately people smoking. I don't know. What's happening. I don't know. What's I think they were drinking Lancers wine. Do you remember Lancers answers why no was out of a box it no, it was it was like this red weird bottle. I just remember that always being around and I think it's My grandfather it fell off a truck and she's not get cases of it. And yeah, a lot of things fell off a truck from my grandfather. He gave me a cabbage wouldn't the Cabbage Patch Kids were all the rage one again fell off the truck, but it wasn't even a real Cabbage Patch Kid. He was like no it's a better it was a bootlegger. Yeah. It was a positive. It had to get I like pink hair but I mean it wasn't like the normal yarn here. It was messed up. So, okay I want to say is for everyone that is listening. That doesn't know exactly what Sabrina does As you are on Extreme Makeover, I was on Extreme Makeover HGTV Trading Spaces while you're out and on ABC right now to correct. No, it's not the longer happy no longer happening. So I was doing the ABC show, but then I got pregnant so I couldn't travel anymore. So they gave it to my best friend another of us friend of mine Tanya. So she's hosting the show. That's right. You're super close to 10 years. Yeah. So okay Loves You by the way, she does she is obsessed with you. I follow her too. So you do. Okay. I feel like we have this little like, yeah, I'm gonna shoot Like a week, we we had no idea what we were doing together. I know why are all these I still don't know how to women together being flown to Atlanta God for some type of payment never went into anything, but we all got to know each other so well and it was amazing because we're like, oh my God, she's like a ridiculous organizer. Also, I do. Yeah, I do organization carrier and Interiors. Yeah. I mean, it's an entertaining kind of like you guys though. You do it all again. I want to figure out how you got there. So we're going we're going that's not my setup was trying to be like who you are now and how you became what you saw. I got my HGTV job on I'll tell you the story wait wait, you're so not even there yet. Okay, good good. I just don't know. What did you do as a kid? Were you a sports kid? No theater geek were no science were no IDs. No really. I was super crafty. Okay. So my mom was a party planner and she was interior designer growing up and I would be with her every weekend doing crafts making little like those back. Remember the boxes that were covered in in fabric with the glass like those with ribbon. Always be on in hand with an amazing ever since I was a kid and super organized. Like I got all the books in my house and I made a pretend library and I used to make my sister come and check stuff out a lot of time on my fantastic. Oh my gosh. How cool so when you were like middle school high school? What how were you like socially were you super Euler? Well, yeah, what was social life? Like I was super. Yeah, I would say I was popular but I was friends with everyone. Very social but also very dramatic like in high school. I was they made me most talented and I went to the principal's office is how dramatic I was and I went to the principal's office. I was like, I can't accept this is like some amazing award is like what it was like, I don't feel like I'm most talented. He's like get out of my office like okay the best thing I've ever heard that is amazing - I got an award like that. But I think I have a picture of it the in here. It's got to be in the yearbook yet is your what is the Did the guy that won most talented dude, his name is John Shaw. What's he doing? I think he's an artist. Okay. Yeah. See you earned that your students your peoples new they can see it in you and I really wanted best here. You do have amazing hair without you cheerleader. No, well some nothing none of that sports-related. Well, none of that that okay. Did you work when you were in like high school and stuff? Yeah. So my parents went through really hard financial time when I was 14, so I actually had to get a special permit to Work so I worked at a modeling agency. That was a total like Croc Croc like one of those words like yeah parmesan. Yes, it was like that. But whatever they were paying me then I started working at Hot Dog on a stick. Yes. So they were paying me good 650 an hour take it I took it in that little outfit you get was so cute hat. Oh my gosh, and so like what in a mall in you did wrong and roaming in the Birmingham all yes. So that's once you moved here. Yeah. Okay. So you moved here at what age Junior High junior high, so Six seven eight somewhere around there. So your last seven were like, I'm great. Okay, so you're 12. Yeah, no well, so no, actually I started high school and I was 13. So I was 11. Wow. I think my mom wanted to get me out of the house when I was little so she was like, you're gonna start kindergarten go. When's your birthday December? Oh, so you write later. Yeah. So you went earlier than you should have. Yeah. I don't think that was the right choice, but my almost like you're fine. She's like, I'm sort of over pain child. Okay, so hot dog on a stick. That's what you're doing. So I've been working since I was 14. I've never not worked then it's just made me but what did your parents do you said what your mom what would you do to my dad was a TV producer? Really? Yeah, so he wait so that's kind of like Perfect You're a combination. I don't know. I think I did that on purpose. I'm sure I'm looking for Bono, but that is so funny how so many like people like you always wonder how someone became who they are and it's like you have such a knack for it and it makes sense because you grew up around it. I know but I never A million years thought that I would be doing this. I thought I'd be doing TV work like TV hosting work but never designing on TV ever, but I think that's what's so interesting because nowadays and we've talked about this in the past whereas before it used to be just hosting and someone just had to kind of be the mediator or just talking to a camera and now it helps so much when you actually have a skill set right bringing to the table. Yeah. I mean, it's amazing right like the shows have your skill set has lent yourself to those shows so much. So no sense knock on wood. Yeah. It's gonna happen when you were growing up. Yup, what was there like a strong faith did did religion play a part and I went to Catholic school, but I got I would also tell me I would pretend that I had a stomachache every time like it was time to go to the Bible study so bad that I mean like pretend real like oh my mom really loves it. So then I am all of a sudden a doctor's office and they're giving me an enema. I was like wait. No I was walking. I just know. Call in an antibiotic is it styled I can you imagine and I swear I remember I was like no, I promised my pictures didn't want to go to find you know, what an enema was. No, but I wonder sticking stuff. Yeah up your ass. You'll be clear. What's happening here. You're gonna be fine. We got to figure out what's wrong with you. I'm like, oh my gosh. It's so other other aspects of school. I'm going to have a cool didn't bother you. It was just the Bible study. Yeah. It was I just never liked it. I don't know. I actually never liked school either. ER yeah ever I remember being in second grade and my teacher accusing me of plagiarism and I swear. Can you imagine I was happy to come on like we're making it was a poem that I wrote. He didn't believe that I actually wrote it. He actually called my mom in and ever since then I think I've just never liked he didn't believe you wrote it because it sounded familiar because every time a good it's well. I don't remember the whole poem. But I remember part of it was like as the wind howls through the window pane which is so stupid, but he was like your six you didn't like that. But I did I know I need to find where that yeah, let's shame him on social media. That's what we do now. Right. Did you go to college I did but I never finished. Okay, where'd you go to school ready start. So I started in community college and then I went to UCLA extension for design. But again, like yeah did not like it have you felt that you're the reason that you didn't like school was because that wasn't the kind of environment that you learn best in or you didn't like big like did you ever figure out what it was about? It's cool. It's still like I still can't go to the movies. I'm 42 years old and I can't sit still for two hours like sitting there but I'm staying I just want to get up you want to be doing doing I'm sure I do so his were you always like that as a kid? Like you just constantly going going going? Yes. I know like orally. It's so interesting because we've been doing these interviews where we interview each other and like orally just was a worker from the get-go. Whereas I feel like most kids some kids will be like, I'm gonna go play it. I'm gonna spend my Summers doing this so you were just constantly going something. I mean, I also I remember I took all the pins in our house and Drew a list a list of what the pain was the color and then align wow, like what go outside what made you like that - I have no idea. Did you see your parents just with their work ethic and know I don't know interesting because I mean it's like nature versus nurture right? Are they were they and are they still happily married? No, they are not happily married were there. I mean, yeah growing up. I don't remember any problems. It wasn't like you trying to Has your chaotic life? No, it wasn't that it was just a desire a love that you had. It was just got when they broke up it was done and I was were you when they 14? Oh gosh, so, all right around yeah when you moved here, yeah that why you moved here. No, no, okay, he moved away and then you know, that's when I had to go back to work, but they actually got the divorce a day of the Northridge Earthquake and I'm home alone because my mom had to fly to Florida for the divorce and it was home alone. So, where were you what did you do? Well, of course, I had a bunch of people over because we were like I had a party It was a bunch of teenagers in a house on a hill in Burbank Northridge Earthquake. Thank effing more that like all those parents didn't sue the crap out of your parents for being like, you know, like putting all their kids in danger or something like that was totally happened. It'll be like she has a job at hot dogs too kind of doing her for that 650 an hour your wages are mine bitch. So was there a fond memory of yours from your childhood that you're like that was the best thing and that was like the worst you know that you're funny that you're asking me that I was Just talking to my sister about that the other day because my therapist asked me what's like, give me a good childhood memory and I'm like, I don't really remember a lot of things with my parents. I remember a lot of things with my sister, which is weird. Yeah, is that just cause you didn't feel like where they always working and you didn't relate to them or I don't know what and I have no idea but now you're close to your mom. Yeah. I'm close to both of them. It's interesting, huh? Yeah, I don't know. So your favorite like just maybe hang out with your sister just like camping with my sister being in the backyard with my sister, you know. I don't know. It wasn't anything like oh, I remember that's really nice Mom and Dad. Yeah, it wasn't and then when did boys come into the picture Owen? I was in first grade. So Q we need to find him too. Oh and I like it Owen but I broke up with him because I thought he was gonna try to kiss me at the school day. I was going to ask you was your first kiss. No, he wasn't my first kiss was Zoltan result at Zoltan. Yeah, okay, mr. Z everything for you. I was in I was in eighth grade going to 9th grade, so He's kind of old you waited. Yeah, good for you girlfriend. Thanks impressive. Well, when did you do you you didn't want to be in school? But like did you always know you wanted to do something artsy or creative? I knew I always wanted to be on TV you did make sure like I have video of me as a kid pretending to be on the screen so - oh, I still want to be able to read a sentence. That's all we talk about. I'm somewhere was that Georgia server Atlanta? Yeah, but when I like in I was at meditation this morning and for a minute, I was like met envisioning like visualizing and I still visualize being in a studio. Yep doing this Arena so - oh, yeah, so I have to make it happen. You didn't get out there. Yeah, you will I mean you're killing or your hustle you are literally and the definition of a hustler. I am have your on like rug line out. I'm coming out with furniture next year saying I have a jewelry line coming out with 31 bits at the end of the year and also, A necklace with st. Jude for their holiday Catalonia Christmas. It's amazing. That's so amazing. So I want to I want to hear my podcast and the podcast. Yes have to loosen my podcast. It's fantastic. I listened to this morning and it really does feel like you're sitting with you like add a little table just talking and you're like sharing information you're sharing your experience. Sometimes crying sometimes right? Hey listen, if anyone knows that, it's me, I'm the crawleys the cry. I cry all the time. I love a good cry. Yeah, it's fantastic. Everything will be in the show notes, but and I want to I want to like make sure that we get into I want to know what's the design process all that stuff. But I want to know first. What was your so we are out of college basically, right? What was your first job that's in alignment with what you do today? Like what was that first step that first opportunity in this category. I think it was helping a real estate friend. My mom's help stage houses. So she kind of that's where I started the design and then I got into real estate, but my first TV job was an MTV. A show called The Big Urban myth show. Wait, what did you do for them? I was a host of the show, but then ended up going to series but host list, but that was my first like real big ones. I thought I was going to make it like of Mars. You lose my daughter. I'm yeah, I'm hungry you at this point I think 21. Okay. Yeah. I mean that's I feel like all of us have that similar experience when you have dreams of entertainment and you get that first opportunity like okay, so then that's I mean, I guess that's the My story really kicks off and like all of a sudden you're like wait Nothing's Gonna Change. My whole life doesn't change. I actually think they paid me $500 if that and you're like a week of good. Yeah. I got this you got this. I'm moving out. Yeah, I was already out. By the way, it's one of those interesting things as you're like wolves my calling someone's sought me out. Yeah and offered me this job. So obviously this is where it belongs and what was that show like what was it? It was about like Urban myths like how Tupac still alive so I would go and investigate into popular, too. Papa's it was just ridiculous my gosh, but my first then real big show is dating story on TLC. So I hosted 85 episodes of that. Yeah back-to-back and what was that audition process? Like how did that show come into your life? I think I had an agent of the time. I remember that audition because I left there and I started crying because I thought I'd done so bad and I was embarrassed and I'm friends with the woman who ended up hiring me and she told me to this day like I screwed up so bad, but I was so funny that they're like, it's fine. Just teach her how to see you using now. Yeah. Yeah, so they put me in like TV host boot camp. And that was it. Did you feel like when you were doing those those classes that you were figuring out how to be you but better or did it feel like it was changing. There is a colossal waste of time. All that legal thing was like pretend you're talking to my your friend. I'm like shut up. You're not my friend out of you know, you are like, duh, but you know what? I think that's really funny what I think that that shows is more so that the person who was casting you. Actually believed in you because I guess that's the biggest thing. Yes, right because I think it's all of those things these opportunities come about because someone was like, you know what you're super green, but I know we can teach you you're going to be fine. You're a good person. I know you want to do this. Let's just make it happen. Right like whatever it takes to make that happen and you guys know like doing TV. It's like the first couple of shows. Yeah, they're always suck. But you know, like, you know, you just feel better by doing. Yeah, it goes for anything on a Persona. So get better by doing such a good lesson not going to school. Yeah when you were doing by the way to nist, I mean, I don't believe in people going. School stay in school folks II tend to follow along your they know I kind of all along your line of thinking when you were doing staging and real estate stuff. This was before so this was around 20 or 21. Yeah, but I would do either TV work or designing staging or real estate. Like I was doing work in time. They weren't the same never story never interesting. I would do one or the other and don't you think like at the time was that and were there enough shows out there that you could see yourself taking your design stuff and being on TV and that they would murder It's not even in my like on my radar. What happened was I watched the secret before the secret was huge. So back before it was on Oprah. My girlfriend told me about it and you could download it for $4.95 on the internet. So I'm watching it and my then husband because I'm divorced came home. And I said I'm gonna be on TV again. We just got married. I was making a lot of money on real estate and he was like, why are you crazy? Like we just got married? Why do you want to start auditions? What like 10 years ago? No, this is Fifteen years ago Kerr 2008. Let's see. It was 2007. Okay. So you're 12 years ago. So he was like, he's a kind of telling me like you are making good money. You don't need to be doing that again and that night. I fell asleep the next morning. I woke up. I couldn't sleep and I went on Craigslist and there was an ad out. They were looking for a designer who had TB experience and not my face. Yeah, and that was my first a TV show on Craigslist and it was on a TV. It was a If I need to have another friend that did something like that and it was amazing. It was like on it was exactly that it was either on Craigslist or what was the other one that we people used to go on further monster track or one of those and it was the same thing but it was like when digital was happening. Yeah, and the show ended up blowing up but it's like one of those things you just in the most unassuming places that that would happen and it was the next module and that shows huge. Yeah what HGTV shows that was get it sold and that was supposed to be like a filler show. They didn't even think it was going to do well and ended up becoming one of the top. Five shows. So when you see this post and it says looking for interior designers with TV experience contact. It didn't say yes to TV just like has put out there. Yep. So you contact them and I kept going about my day. I started working out to prep myself to be back on TV. So I would tell myself like I need to get back on Tina camera ready, even though I know Egypt nothing. How did this affect did this bother your husband at the time we're divorced right? So but was that the impetus for like, what do you think? No because the show took me to Washington. See so and he didn't want to move so we would see each other once maybe twice a month and this is when the show like in the beginning the shows like doing a pilot thing. So you might you don't know what's happening right there. Like you might be here for six months. I was there for five years, but like are really the excuse me our relationship just started falling apart because I would come home and I'd feel almost out of touch and by the time I warmed up to being with him again, I believe so just forget how much like time away actually creates problems. So, I don't know how people do long time. I know long distance. Interesting. Yeah, but wait, can I I think that that's so interesting. That's a point you bring up because I feel like I've been with my husband for so long since I was so young and so you orally but like I always wondered now I've operated with such a mentality of like us first and then work and we will somehow make it work, but do you feel like you were you do you think that that was something that you were like, this is a dream of mine that I've wanted to happen, so I don't care if my marriage suffers by you did unfortunately, but be Has I when I my parents relationship fell apart I saw my mom crumble and we became dirt poor in the in a matter of weeks and I remember always saying like yes, I also obviously I want to be a great wife, but I have to support myself and unfortunately, if you're not going to support me then I have to make a decision and I'm glad I did you have to lie Lan server via you have the things wrong that no, but you had an example from your own childhood from your own family. To you of what happens when you don't put you first, right? And and also, I'm sure a lot of it had to do with the fact that when you shared a dream you didn't get fuck. Yes, let's do this, right if I got your back and you got nothing you're making your own and it is sort of keep you you know, I don't know him at all to know if this was the thing but it's a little bit of like kind of keep you small where I know I can contribute a little better as opposed to something else. He's a great guy by the way remarried now with the beautiful sun like I'm so happy for him. It just wasn't my ear with my person. Yeah, but the problem is to that I'm starting to realize in all of my therapy is that I have become two independent that it's really hard for a man to like come into your life. Yeah, we kind of I don't bring her. You don't need it. I don't need anyone and I need to start like softening up that way. It's interesting though because it's like such a great lesson to learn I think at a young age because I would say him on the opposite like my parents have a great marriage and they never I didn't have an example that showed me what it was like without that and they both We'll work together. So it was like a different feeling but I think that that's such an interesting takeaway that that is what has made you so independent which I think is great. Now you just have to learn how to soften up a little bit. Yeah, baby let that person in your life. But as far as getting to where you are right now all of that because I mean again the way you hustle is amazing, but your work ethic is on a different level. Yeah, and so you have that had to come from somewhere and that's where it's like you think about digging people write like remember when we were thinking about having you on the show is like but Sabrina has like six thousand things going on. Now is sheer single mother. It's insane. I know I know I'm really tired. You don't look at it. I have to soften up. I mean like the first date that I went on on the first date. I asked him what his credit score was like that was what was important to me. That's not probably the sweetest that's not like boner-inducing 3-minute challenges. So we have this thing on the podcast called the three minute challenge because Brandi talks about which is always very surprising when Brandi talks about things like blow jobs. I Imagine hilarious, but she's talking about how she seemed like sometimes just likes to give him a blow job because then it's like it's like, you know two minutes. They're like they're done. But what about her was just saying like she doesn't necessarily need anything. She wants to get back to her work, but she won't like she's a good idea to get sweaty. I don't become a mess. And so we were joking I was saying I would do that if my husband didn't take fucking forever. So looking and he listened to the podcast and he goes, all right. All right an idea an idea, what about we do a little like three minute challenge I get three minutes and and I think I can I can do it in three minutes. I can't randomly when he wants a BJ he goes through maybe didn't have you done it yet because he'll finish it work, you know, there's a time. I'm not here for the freaking like move it like timer on your iPhone and literally look at the clock and I go it's 12:01 get it going. Let's do this broseph. Okay, so that's the 3 minute challenge. I love it conversation and it's a good one that somehow pops up every single podcast it. So, okay. So you're in Washington your work in HD, you're like living life. Yeah and your marriage then grumbles grumbles. Yes, and now we're you what where are we age-wise? And what year is this? I think I was 31. Okay, and I stayed in DC for five years and then I met Olivia's dad there DC. He was actually the sound guy in my show. So you guys met on the set. So we kind of made sense because it you were you knew that that's what you wanted to do. Yeah, and it and then Exact was with me every single day for the next like seven years working with me. So what was that relationship like? Oh my God. He's like the complete opposite of me. Like super quiet really nice. Not that I'm that nice, but just like soup thoughtful just soft being and I'm like a come in like a bull in a China closet. We could probably balanced each other. Yeah very much Jeannie. Yeah very much. I do love that about you when I first met you you do come in very strong. But I mean, it's good. It's like you're like what? Yeah, what do you mean? You have like that? You're totally a cute new or New Yorker Cuban your Cuban. Totally. I'm very blunt living in California yesterday. What is that? Why is this happening? I don't like it. I don't like to waste time. Yeah, I don't need the hello. How are you? Curious? What do you need until you get to know you and then you're like stop cursing. Yeah, and then you're like that, you know, and I feel like it's so funny because I keep talking about Trish but like she totally brings that out. And yeah because orally if you were to meet her it's literally like someone that you just wouldn't imagine being best friends with your all of a sudden like Yeah, got a close as a people, you know, they're getting it but Olivia I was also softened me up and Olivia can introduce who Livia's Olivia's my daughter. She's three and a half Going on 30. She really is but being a mom has really softened me up. I mean, I was way worse before she came around. So when you guys were on set you guys, how long were you dating before Olivia came into the picture? Oh while eight years, but I when we started dating, I remember telling him I'm going to have your child and I never wanted kids before you leave. Yeah, like I used to tell my ex-husband were not having what was it about him that changed your mind. I don't know but I remember where we were standing and I remember saying I'm going to have your child what weight and with your ex-husband. Was that ever like did he was that like a gang but I wish you guys could see the face. No, it was fine. I don't think he wanted kids back then but do you know Olivia's dad and I only tried once whoa, wow, only tried once to get pregnant and that was it. So there you go. What was meant what was dating like like with him? Like what were what did you guys do? What was your life like when you were living there and we're bringing together. Yeah, like, you know what? I mean, like what was the courtship and the relationship like before the heads of government was there wasn't really a courtship because we work together and we were friends first. Yeah, so I've missed that and that's what I was, you know, unfortunately, he and I broke up last year, but I'm was looking forward to being courted because I haven't Dated first and 15 years and I haven't really been hoarded in 15 years. Yeah. Yeah because you guys just went from like working and seeing each other and kind of like, oh, he's cool. She's cool. And then the banter that playfulness and we like guys like go out after work and like let's grab a drink and like that kind of thing kind of what we played house like to quickly. Yeah, like let's just go to the house and cook when all of a sudden it was like wait. What happened to dating? Was there a reason why you guys didn't get married? Or was that more? Just something that you're like I've done this before I let's just be partners in beginning. He really want to get married and I said, I just got out of the divorce and I was like, I don't need to get married again. So is like years of me saying that and then I flipped and I wanted to get married. He was like what happened to this just a piece of paper and it just never happened. It never happened and we were together for ten years. That's a long time isn't as a decade. It is a long time. How did you find out you were pregnant? I was shooting and my cameraman Andy told me I looked a little pudgy freaking Andy and we didn't David he was like you looking a little swollen and I know so the next morning I woke up and of course I went and got all this low carb low calorie food and I was and I was like, you know what I'll take a pregnancy test tubes we did try and I took the pregnancy test for even unloaded the groceries and Steve was still sleeping and I ran upstairs and I'm like Look at this and it was like that it gave him the pregnancy test and he just looked down and he was like wait you just peed on this? Oh my God. This is not the movie Magic like moment because was a grabby twirling around. No that didn't happen. You're talking about my urine so dumb he was shocked and so was I we only tried once it doesn't happen like that? No. No, he doesn't in the dust, you know, but it didn't it's not even like I was timing it either. Yeah, we had no idea and if you aren't either It's like a small window smallest window when you actually find out you're like man. I've been being careful for so long. I can barely have gotten pregnant that whole time. Yeah, so did have is when that happened and you finally realize like, okay I'm pregnant and this is happening. Was it did it become complicated with work like it. Was it something harder than to digest that you guys were working together living together starting this family together out of that all know. Everything was just fine. I pregnancy was super easy for me and work was okay with it. And yeah, just I was like just growing. Yeah, but you can Good, I felt great. Yeah, I mean super emotional, you know that lots of crying eyes reason. Yes. Yeah. Other than that, it was fine. I didn't feel nauseous and you were working through the pregnancy or the most part but I did I did kind of stopped for a while and then I stopped after until Olivia was like three months old and I started working again and Steve was still working at the time. Yeah, he was still sounding on the show. He was doing other stuff OK shows and then were you guys doing You see at this time. No, we were here in La. Okay. Oh, sorry. This show was now in a LOL. Yeah, I was doing work like here and there are not any God, but not like a series just like one-offs here and there do you think you would have more kids? I think about that and I'm open to it if it's the right situation, but I also know how hard it is just with Olivia alone doing it by myself. And I just couldn't imagine two people relying on me. Yeah right now. Yeah, so would have to be like a good Salt Lick situation where the hell it was a very healthy relationship healthy family Dynamics. Yeah, and then I'd be open to it, but I'm kind of like getting to that point that I'm going to have to shit or get off the pot. You have to make a decision. You mean is wise yeah, just with the having. Yeah with a well, you know, I think what's interesting too is because like me or lean Brandi, we all have Partners right that we share our responsibilities that when you get home tonight now, I know that you know, it's really interesting. I love having you on here because you are a phenomenal woman like in everything you do you provide you care for your daughter and you work your butt off and doing so and you do it with such class and Grace, what would you say is the the biggest input and advice to other single moms that are going out there and hustling what it orally and I were talking about earlier just being so hard on myself there are days that I don't because we are free. We're all sort of Freelancers. Yeah, so it's up to me to vote of eight myself and there are days if I'm going through it. I just don't feel like doing it and it I really been so hard on myself that just lately for instance my podcast I was doing it every week and it's a lot because I'm doing it by myself and Last week I was I was really forcing myself to think of something to talk about and finally just let it go. You know what I'm not going to put out a podcast this week and that's okay. So just being a little bit more kind to yourself and knowing that you know, it's okay. If not, everything gets done. I think that is probably the best advice. I mean we talked about all the time how especially being moms and in sort of the public life, right? We put our lives out there on social media all the time and what we do it's so hard to constantly think like I need to do more and you do more I have some more content. I got to have of this and I got to have this and it's okay to step back and take a breather and take care of yourself. That's right. Yeah the same thing with social I was posting every single day because that's also how we make money with Brands and I just was forcing it. So just not forcing anything anymore when I get to it I'll get to it and if you guys going to be okay, and I think it's really powerful to try to take the time to really figure out as we were time out like again right before we started but like what is really like your as it pertains to? Work not as it pertains to your daughter and your family and your love life and relationships as it pertains to work. Like what is really your purpose in work? And what is that? What are the things that are really aligning with that? Because I just have found that the clearer I get on those things. The work is easier. Literally it comes easier. The opportunities are easier. The work itself is easier and the busyness of like I did it it goes away because it's so clear when that one's not right and that one's not right and then you can just say goodbye to those things that aren't fulfilling. You and in one way or another what would you say your purposes for work? So for me, I have like three word that in my mind. If I'm not doing one of the three things it's a waste of my time. So I want to be entertaining inspiring and educating for me. It's those three things. I want the work that I'm doing. If it's DIY that it is inspiring people to get on get in there and make something if they're learning something. I want it to be funny. I want it to be entertaining. I want them to have a laugh and feel better when they walk away like to me whether it's the podcast or the YouTube show or the segment's I do on home and family or the show that I want to create in the You're like it's those things and if it doesn't look even as working with Brands, I've been starting to say no to ninety percent of the emails. I'm getting because if they're not willing to pay enough that I can produce a piece of content that's in your cow. In fact, I don't want to I'm not I don't want to do an Instagram story right with the tide pod, right? That's not like so now I'm like, oh that's easy. That's easy. No, thank you. Yeah, it's going to cost this to produce that kind of thing. And if you can't but that's brand new like literally a month old. Yes, but But I cannot tell you the weight that you feel lifted like the biggest deep breath all the time. Now, it's the craziest fricking thing. It happened. But it was when I soon as I got super super clear about what What mattered to me like have you do you know for yourself as it pertains to Career like your purpose if you had the Sabrina Soto show what is to be the same thing what's happening is like being humorous, but also inspiring and King transparent. Yes scene. It's very to be a Super Key, especially this time in my life and it's so good with about well, I well I'm I'm an open book because I'm not ashamed I should be ashamed to so thanks, but I'm I'm not because I I feel like other people we all are putting up this front and social media and I still post beautiful pictures and social media because I like that sort of magazine feed but I also share my truth of all this, you know, trials and tribulations that I've been through in the last year. Yeah, and it's inspiring other people to live in their truth, too. Because if we're all going to just pretend it's a waste of time and it only puts pressure on everybody to pretend to be perfect. Nobody's life is perfect. No one's no one so true it is I mean, it's so true and you don't know what your life looks pretty for. Not at all. She's a freaking disaster. What do you think about what it would mean to you with her? Just being empowering her to be independent strong Fearless which she is and being kind but I also now live my life. I asked myself if this was Olivia's life would would I be okay with it and sometimes it's your life. Yes. Oh wow. So I start thinking like if Olivia was acting like this or if Olivia was making these choices would I be okay with it if it's ever know that it really like wakes me up. That's a great bar. That's a good part. Yeah. That's like the thing we did something a couple episodes ago. We were talking about the realization when you talk about what you hope for your kids. Right and it's so simple. It's like I want them to be happy and want to be fulfilled and have good relationships and you know provide something to whatever it's like these clear things yet. We don't hold those as the only things that matter to us. That's where all the other bullshit matters to us. And so Brandy had this great idea of like write a letter of all the things that you hope for your daughter all the things you hope her life will be like and then scratch out her name and write your own. Yeah and reread it and it such a powerful thing. I think that is the most perfect way of looking through her eyes. Like if you were watching her living your life, right? I think that is such fantastic advice. Yeah. Well because I've been going to love that. Yes, so it's like I'm writing and I'm like literally writing it as we speak. That's a really good point. Where were you going to say? You're going to say that just oh and also yeah there are there have been Things of me like it when dealing with the hard times that I think I talked about this on the podcast that I started drinking wine like glasses of wine after I would put her to bed and I started realizing it was like my pal and I thought I like one morning something like what am I doing? Because it sounds so crazy, but it was almost like my friend like because I was so lonely I would put her sleep and I'd be like Oh, I'm gonna unwind and do laundry again Jam Wine and then it became like this really doesn't sound crazy at like it doesn't sound crazy. Yeah, but it doesn't sound crazy and I was like if Olivia was doing this when she's older what I'd be like, hey girl check yourself. Yeah. It was like I can't do that. They actually say there's there's the study and I have to find it but there's a study about like how doctors are actually calling it like a stay-at-home. I mean they call it the stay-at-home mom syndrome thing, but it's about how more moms are actually doing playdates and like, you know nighttime bedtime routine and they're incorporating way too much alcohol. Yes there have it's like an actual detection but With that do how do you find time to do everything you do? Because like I'm you come home you you know the alcohol was there whatever you have a glass of wine. How do you do everything else? I don't know. I am I talked about this a few weeks ago to podcast to there are days that I'm like if there was a GoPro on my head. Nobody would believe I got this much done. Yeah, but then there are other days that I just I do self care and I'll meditate and I'll do a massage and I'll put everything. Aside, but I just try to balance it all I I am very fast at the way I'm very efficient and a very resourceful. I see some people doing the same things that I do and it takes way like what I have a friend I watched them make lunch for their kid, and I wanted to like crawl out of my skin. What in God's name are you doing? Can I say one thing I admire about you a lot is you have a ridiculous not only work ethic. But also like you're you're so regimented with your diet. Yes. I am. I've been plant-based now for three and a half years. It's crazy. And I don't ever cheat. How did that start? It was posted that a challenge for my manager. He was like, let's do this for 30 days and I felt so much better. I've lost 14 pounds. You look incredible. I you don't even know. Which I eat it's insane and I eat bread and pasta and pizza and ice creams. I mean I get to eat everything. I've been missing out on and I just feel great. I feel so different. That's the biggest thing. Yeah is the energy especially when you are juggling like you're saying needing to be the self starter and the motivator in yourself needing to have that energy for your daughter needing to all that stuff the mental energy for a creative job like you need to be on it. Yes. You can't be sluggish. No, it's like energy and I just feel like I loved your tip for Doing that when you're on the road or traveling or on a project cause I feel like that's the hardest thing on the road to Paris, but weirdly now like Burger King and Taco Bell. Everybody has a vegan option now so for fast food, but like avocado, I sometimes when I'm on the road for like shooting I'll bring a toaster with me. So I make avocado. I remember you broke my promise with you. I had a toaster you're writing kind of toaster and her and then I wanted to say she's like I know how to party. Mia toaster, I'll be fine. I used to I used it and I was like I would be pissed I will be playing but I mean listen you look incredibly you've always enjoyed credible since I've known you. I'm sure I mean you always have but I'm I'm always an odd that because you are on the go constantly and you know, I mean for me I always think like plant-based means you have to be in your kitchen kind of know you'll probably think about it fruits and vegetables already in their own packaging just put in your burgers. Do we have your cruise? Do you have a side from avocado toast? Do you have like a go-to recipe like when you're entertaining? Like someone could try for dinner tonight. I have a great paella like a chickpea paella that I make that he's he incredible. It really tastes so good. Is it a simple enough recipe that you could walk it through? Yeah. Well, it's a over there book called vegan for to the in for to I believe that's what it's called. I can find it. I can link it. It's great. It's really is the great paella. I have a question about motherhood a little bit Yeah, are there any non-negotiables you have? Olivia as far as like Not like I'm like personality traits but like character traits that you you will not have a child that X y&z absolutely be like, those are non-negotiables. I don't care about this this and this but we're not even around when it comes to these are there things like that for you that are like you're sharing. Yeah being mean things like that. It's just an it's not happening at all. But I have this conversation with my friends blah blah like nature versus nurture. Olivia is super fearless and really independent. I don't know if she just was like Or I had like a part to play in that. I don't know where it's a little bit of both, but she is super social when we go to the park till she doesn't even need to be to be next or she'll go introduce her to like herself to the kids. And I love that. I was eating with her out the other night and there were these two girls there are playing with these dolls. And she said can I go play with them and I was like great she was said hi. My name's Olivia. Can I play with your dolls? And the guy who's sitting next to it was like how old is she like that? She's so personable first again. I love that about Her so, I just know that that's a big product of you. I hope so. I have to imagine that it is she probably sees what a badass you are and well entertain a lot because I it's hard for me to go out with her. So there's constantly people at my house like playing with her we have food and it's always like a full group of people. So she has a lot of aunts and uncles I love that. So because you do entertain at home a lot and you have Olivia home with you, how would you say you meet people like, how are you going to date? So so dating and what's that like right now for you and Life, it's not non-existent know it's non-existent. So that's something that you put in your list of like what I want this for Olivia. Now, I know I have to I know I have to get better at like putting myself out there and going out. It's just that she doesn't give an f what time I go to sleep. She still wakes up at 5:30. So yeah, so it's like God do I want to be out? No, I get it. But I am going on a trip next week. I'm taking a trip to France and south of France and Spain by myself without Olivia, Olivia. So I feel like how long are you gone for Indies? Oh my gosh, that's incredible. I'm so scared. I'm so scared. Oh my God. How did you solve decided to know my cousins getting married? Okay. So I've just saying seven his mom and sister going to want sisters who she's gonna be with their dad and some of my friends nanny for 10 days, but I have never traveled internationally by myself. Wow, and I'm so not that a liberating experience. I think it's going to be like my Eat Pray Love moment you to like write the shit out of that trip. So I got internal and like right and like be that person not to do a podcast while you're out there too. Oh my God, I well. How would I know but whatever figure it out. Yeah. I'm so scared. And so excited at the same time. Does she get it? Have you been like prepping her like mom's gonna be gone for a little bit. Yeah. She doesn't understand why she's not going. She's like I want to go to France and like she's like, I would do great in Paris. It's have you married me. I don't know where she got that. But yeah, I'm going to need some mom advice on how to Through those two. Okay. So let's say you go to Paris and it's like I'm a goddamn buzzing and you meet a fabulous man. Like it was they're non-negotiable with bringing someone around to Olivia. I don't think I would introduce Olivia to somebody like it for at least six months got it, you know for sure but I'm also like you don't understand I like my dating. I've id'd it a lot my twenties, but it's been so long. Like I've never even had a one-night stand in my life ever. Never never know. Who's I don't know it's a self- talk like who's gonna want to date somebody who has a kid and it's not but ones of people I know are you kidding me? But I do think that brings up a great point for all the single moms that are out there. I mean, I hear it enough from my single friends who don't have kids that are like how difficult it is to date, you know, and how hard it is to find other people that are compatible to me. Like I just don't know if I'm ever gonna find someone like what do you think is your biggest fear about Being a single mom when it comes to finding that partner. I don't know. I mean I've had really good luck when I do meet someone because I think because I am so transparent but yeah, I mean I worry about where I'm going to find somebody not necessarily A Gwen but where he's unless he's the UPS Olivia is also three and a half. So I forget that like when you guys start school and stuff that my yeah, they're going to be a lot of Christine. I'm gonna need a hug between now and then people during the exercise to hug a ton of people figure out. What about each of them you like you could you would take with you if you could put it together and just to get again like super clear in your mind on like what does he because he's out there right? Like what does he look and feel like what's his Vibe and it's almost like frankensteining it like Robbing, all these different things and putting it together and starting to build out this very clear. So it's like you'll know it when you see it, you know, yeah, I wrote a list of the other day of everything I'm looking for. Yes. I think that anything like friends for was on that list. Ha ha ha just maybe not the first question on the day and you know, the boater blocker have another question for you. There's a lot of women that listen to this podcast are always asking like, how did you guys start doing what you're doing? How are you, you know Finding success in it and for me, I want to ask you personally. Lee because you are the Sole Provider in your family and you had mentioned it like we're all pretty much freelance, right? So it's like it comes and goes and you don't know if it's going to be really great and for how long and Yacht has there ever been a time where you think like if I wasn't doing this I would go and do that. Like do you think real like something I'd be yeah or even like, you know, it's exhausting you have to motivate yourself. You have to make sure that you're up making this, you know money and hustling would you and it's all been amazing for you, right? But is there ever a time where like it would be nice? Just kick back and be like I'm going in somewhere nine-to-five. No, I would never do that because I've done that before and I was miserable. I remember being in my 20s and being in this 9 to 5 job and I was the line of Baja Fresh. I'll never forget this and I remember being in line. I'm like, I don't belong here. I don't belong to have a lunch break. That's not my destiny. Yeah, like I want to have my own business. It's so similar to the way that you just did not Jive in school just the structure that someone else puts on you like functional thing this little box. Yeah. We're going to give you a box you can bounce Around inside of it, but don't leave the Box. Yeah, it just is not your thing. I think and God bless anybody who that that's okay because I think just know what I think that's interesting that you say that because I'm sure there are moms that are out there because there are moms that are completely stable in terms of they have the financial security to go out and do it and they're still scared. They're like, I don't want it. I'm scared. How do I step out of my comfort zone and actually try to do something in the creative space that I'm really passionate about and so I find it so admirable that this is all on you and you make stuff. Happened and day out. Yeah, you know I can tell you this the motivation really comes with the what I was talking about earlier like the visual visual. Oh my God visualizing. Yes Lord that has changed my life. It's when I get unmotivated and I stopped doing that as when spec things sort of fall off the track, but when I'm really good and I do that five minutes every morning and I meditate my life completely changes. I'll give you just a stupid example. I had to make my money for sag tube have insurance for 2020 and I was so freaking out about it like and I was supposed to get this job that was going to pay me enough to make my earnings and I didn't get the job and my friend was like well, you should probably start calling insurance agents to get quotes for next year. And I said no because then I'm telling the universe that I don't believe that they're going to bring it and I every morning I did that five minutes of the job was coming within days. I got a job as a job the exact amount of money that I needed for 2020. Yes. We it. Changed my life. Alright, I believe you. I mean on a personal note my husband started doing that and he was saying that he went to go talk to someone just cause he just feel so overwhelmed with work and life and everything and the way that I think it was kind of articulated was so interesting and to me who someone that's not very spiritually connected. I found it so powerful, which he was like, it's almost like waking if the minute you wake up and you start looking at your phone, you're almost like going into battle without your armor and I was like, that's so smart. Such a smart way of saying it he's like if you do take that, Five minutes even five minutes and just kind of collect yourself and what you're doing. It's like you are ready for and you owe it to yourself. Yeah, you're worth it. What does your meditation look like do use an app? Do you just do it yourself? So sometimes I use an app, but I went to the Center for Transcendental Meditation. Yeah Encino, so I learned how to do Transcendental Meditation got it. So you either do that one two, three or so, I read it through myself or if I'm kind of don't feel the motivation which is weird cause you don't need motivation to meditate, but I'll do the app if Sort of inner. Which after you Paul calm. Yeah, but I transit in total for me is way more powerful. Does Olivia meditate with you? I have her started doing the come in the cam app. They have I think it's so cool. My husband makes my kids do it and I was like, they're they're not gonna do it. There's so little and maybe does it they love it? Yeah, and then I go to the den in Studio City to I was there this morning crying. What's the damn? You don't know about the dance studio in shape house. It's right next door. Wow. I went to a breath word class. Oh my gosh. I was bawling the lady next to me was blowing so hard that I actually after class gave her a hug because it was a girl whatever you're going through. I did I had a I mean not a meditation thing but I suppose it's similar. I was doing this thing and in the course of it, there's like these sort of hypnosis tapes that you will get that you have to like walk through and the first one that I did I was in Blake's room because I was like, it was like be somewhere that you can cut like it was like bright everyone the house I can kind of close the door Blake's room. They were at school and so I'd like it lit. Hysterically crying yeah on her bed soaking her pillowcase with my tears going through this like hypnosis and it but it was honestly like it was the beginning of what I'm saying this like last month is just completely changed my life. Like it was the beginning of this thing of like I think it was the release of realizing like I was seeing things differently and something about that. There was this part where it says like notice like any tension like in your body through the week notice any like emotions or Difficulties that you've been carrying and there had just been just discontent over career stuff feeling really frustrated feeling really stuck. And so there was all this stuff which is I just collect them like she was like particles in your heart like just collect them and then she's literally said imagine of vacuum at the base of your foot just pulling it out and I am telling you I went like it was Audible and I started hysterically crying like, I mean, what is this program? Yeah. So it's this I really want to have on the podcast and who he was with her. It's this girl Lacy Phillips. Okay. She has a podcast called expanded but it is about mad. About manifestation but I was saying I almost feel like it's such a not the right word. Although this is the right group of girls to talk about it with but it's about when you figure out what it is that you want. The the only thing you have to do is raise yourself worthy the vibration idiot the say anybody listening to this, please listen to that it is so true. It's not some. Woowoo. Yes. I promise you whatever you want. If you want it. It's capable of coming into your life. You have to just have are worthy of it. Yes, because we were saying like there's the difference between in what we say and what our subconscious which really is our thoughts what it really thinks and so you could be saying I deserve that job. I deserve that career. I deserve that man. I deserve I deserve all that stuff I can get that that can be me. But if there is something in there that is preventing you from really really thinking it and really believing it. It's not it's not coming to you. So it is Raising it. I saw this this morning and texted it to my friend last night. I need to get there. I forwarded it. I'll find it real quick. Yeah, I'm good. It was this thing. Where is it? She's gonna get over that. I need to get on the meditation bad one. It's been it's been fabricated. I'll text you. The thing has been makes me try with him. He's like do it with me like at night and I haven't gotten into it just yet. But I mean I see I literally see how like the good that it does, you know, and I hear it from you guys from him and it's amazing. I just need to get on I don't know why it's like try the app to I know I'm going to I'm going to because like a seven day free. Okay. So so this is we're gonna get to a little fire around To where it's like lightning round where we just going to ask you question everything, but I want to just end on the actual interview with anything that you want people to like that are listening to take something away from that we have addressed or talked about a little bit that everything is temporary. You know, if you're going through a hard time. I know it feels like you're going to live there forever. I've been there but everything is temporary and you like you can get through whatever hardships you're going through. I know because I've been through a lot. Yeah, that's amazing. That's a good one. That's a really good one, huh? All right, and then one last thing if you weren't doing what you're doing right now, I know we kind of touched on it. But if you weren't and you had a choice of doing anything else, what would it be? I'd probably be a makeup artist makeup so much. I love makeup. You can come over and play in that room. All right, so let's get to the lightning round. Yeah, alright. You start reading ready? Yes, who's your girl celeb Crush Jennifer Lopez? I mean I know but like what is it about her that has are so many things about like she's just beautiful. She's a hustler. I don't actually read about you to like, you know, Mom, I totally see her as the independent woman first. He's amazing. She's a great mom. She's sexy Sheiks care of herself and owns it she does. Hmm. I want to be her best friend. What is your who's your celebrity man? Crush Paul Walker, but alive. Okay rest in peace. That's it. Everybody always. Ask me like, what's your type Paul Walker's he is your but he's everyone's type. Yeah, he is. He's universally easy on the eyes. Oh, you're right. He is beautiful. Oh, he was beautiful. All right, if you were stranded on a desert island, what would be the one product you would take with you or it could be food to food or product by the way. Brandi said freaking potatoes. Yes. Oh my God, it can be anything but Brandi. Yeah, whatever's on the island because I'm the phone with like a solar charger. Yeah there I need to talk with you make a couch out to say sorry, but my celly make some sort of tree juice. Yes. Yeah. Okay Duke. Can you say what has been your favorite like memory as a mom? Just one memory. Oh boy, you know it just was the other day. She was she went on the monkey bars and she made all the way through and just watching her her strength and like the way that she tackled it. I could see her I just I was so proud of her that she was so brave. So like to keep pushing through it, you know your hands start to be especially little kids. She was just so brave what has been your biggest failure or obstacle that you've ever overcame. Oh God, how much time? Not for this pot failure. I mean, I feel all the time. I don't know if there's one huge one. I think just losing jobs. And yeah and let the letting that almost drive me into a depression because in our line of work, it's like stuff comes and goes being I wish I was a little bit more easygoing knowing that something is going to come and I've gotten a lot better at it, but I would say few years ago. I'm sorry. Especially when you have a lot riding on it, you know I take I took work a little too seriously. So it's hard when it's when you are giving of yourself to the work. It's not just like sitting in clocking in there's this creation happening inside of you. And so when you have an opportunity you sort of let yourself walk down that road of all the giving you're going to do and you mentally allow so when it's not given to you, it doesn't personally there is such a different. It's like a different rejection than I think on face value when you're like there's a lot of weird. Like it's different than I think it sounds because it's like you really opened yourself up to it and were like here I am I'm here for you. Are you here for me? And when it's like no, you're like fuck that hurt like it's just such a different experience. So I totally get that. It's brutal. Yeah, I've had it too and I've gotten better. It's brutal. Yeah. What's your biggest guilty pleasure? Oh boy. Golden Girls He's hoping you were gonna say like non vegan vanilla ice cream. You were hoping accomplishment Olivia. Oh for sure and then having my own lines. Yeah, I mean, that's all actually we didn't talk about that. We need to do that. You know, I just ask the manufacturer for the rugs how it happened because I was curious and she said that she had just been a fan so she reached out to management. So it was something sort super organic but goes to show like when you Best yes, that's what another thing about manifesting that I've learned. Don't be so specific like my old vision boards would have exact networks. I wanted to work at the exact Brands instead of being more vague and just like lifestyle. Yes, exactly crying and so once I let go of the grasp of it has to be this way more opportunities have just been coming way out of that. Where are the rugs going to be available? The rugs are now available on Overstock Bed Bath and Beyond We Go Home Depot already getting one from Walmart and Amazon. Wait. Did I say that? Yes like a All of the place all the are beautiful two things have a check them out check them out. So your name again. It's a Sabrina Soto. Ugly. Yeah, just Google it. You'll come right up. It's beautiful there indoor/outdoor. Yes, they're gorgeous. I've been hiking for wine on them and wash it right off. I'm buying it. Yeah, you need it when we go. That's it. So what would you say? This is a little harder one because I meant I was like stuck on this. What's your life motto or your life mantra? Do you have one? I would say just being kind and compassionate because the world needs more of it. Yeah, and we all get like in dated with all the stuff and being on her phone, but what I tried to disconnect and connect with people, it's just spreading kindness and that's such a good point such a good point valid point. We bring it up all the time get off get off the phone get off the phone and connect with the person you're there with at that time. I just read something this couple says that when they get home from work, they put down. Phones until the kids go to sleep and I need to start doing that because I noticed that have been on my phone because we were real and we're not alone. Yeah, you're always kind of on the other day was like, can you put down your phone? She said that my heart or when they know how to operate the phone better than you do. No. Excuse me. Where did you learn that from exactly watching you watching you to do that? What is so we always at the end of every episode we talked about like products were crushing on. Yeah, and it's just anything that we think can be helpful. It can be absolutely anything cooking. Yes UT or anything this new hair stuff. Well, it's not new but it's called powder light. Okay, that's a pump. So funny. I was gonna do a hair stuff thing too. Well, what's yours? No, but that is it like a it's a pump and you put it in your roots and it makes your hair super like like great volume. That's what I hear which one's your powder light powder light. Mine was called Puff Puff me. It's in a pink bottle that like, it's basically like a drive. Shampoo, so it looks like white and spray it so it's a drive volumizer spray. It's amazing anything and look liner from Mac right now is called Surah. I'm obsessed Sora, it's sore just sore SOA are I'm writing everything down so we can get everything below. Well csos Sabrina had hair volumizer, which that was amazing. Yeah mine too for that. But mine are actually some PJ's that I'm obsessed with right now. I like live in PJ's who makes him PJ Salvage. Oh, yeah, they're good stuff. So it but Nordstrom Rack is like my jam because you get everything for or not regular price. Yes. So these PJ's are the cutest. Look how cute they are and thank you. Yeah, it's like a gray sweatshirt and sweatpants and then there's little hearts all over and under $50 so good. You can wear it out. You can do anything in it. So it's good. What other ones what do you got dude? I totally forgot I'm gonna do when I was able just have some brain enough to be it. I made it. I might need to think about it. I completely I'll say one thing that I did lately that I don't like. Yeah my got a vampire facial. No, interesting. Wait, when did you get like three months ago the BS like wait a few minutes and see it. No, I didn't see any interesting. I've never gotten one done, but that's interesting. And I looked like a maniac for a good week. I'll show you pictures. You could share them on them. Oh, okay, so don't get that but I don't think we should actually do a podcast where we share things. We don't like because I have a few of those two things. That sucked a big one. Yeah. Yeah, and then I got Jupiter under my eyes. That was a horrible idea. Really? I did it and I did it a long time. I did it a long time ago, so Full disclosure my family friend has like a plastic surgeons business and wanted to increase his social media. So he was like, I'll do like a couple free treatments as long as we can shoot it. I wasn't sure why not so he did a little cheek filler to like a little bit more lift in my cheekbone and I think he was a little heavy-handed because I swear it the like it gave me dark circles because it was a fast pulled my cheeks out too much my dark circles. So then I was like, oh that last for so it is it I don't know I ended up going to the girl who knew. Only does my stuff in his super like really minimal like does very very little and I normally don't notice anything bad. It's a really subtle and I ended up asking her to do under eye because I was like, I look like I have I if I'm not wearing concealer at all times. I look like I've really dark circles. So she did it once to level it and I think then once the cheeks went down over time, I haven't needed to get it done again because I'm going to show you pictures. I look it had like an allergic. Wait. When did you will kiss years and years ago? Oh my God, never again never again. And then when I would get sick on I don't know why it would blow up. Oh probably because the just your Good inflammation and it was so bad. I'm going to show you think about please do but I do think that that's an interesting thing you bring up, which is that so many people asked to like, I feel like Mom's especially for some reason are always shy away from sharing what they get done because they almost feel like that's a form of self care that makes other people feel like oh, why are you going to go do that when you should be with your kids? It's like why what, you know, I can't do that a lot. But I have been getting botox for 10 years. Yeah. I love it. I love it. Of no it has nothing to do your identity when we talk about this whole time your identity as like a woman and an individual and feeling good and the way that you feel about yourself and the vanity and all those things. They have nothing to do with your kids. Now, they're two entirely separate things. So you're allowed to still be a sexy woman exactly still a person tell JLo it doesn't take anything away. No, okay last thing if is there anything that you would want like the mommy group. Community to know about you because they'll all go they'll you know, they're going to come follow you on social the listen to the podcast they've gotten to know you here, but is there something that like I want you all to know that you know this this and this means so much well and that I'm a single mom doing it by myself. So if anybody out there is like scared of going down that route like totally DME I try to reply to everybody and you know that it's not it's doable. I got I did a podcast about the breakup and I got so many messages of women. Just thinking like they were Fearful like I couldn't do it on your own, you know, like and you can everything is doable. I promise you it's not easy. It's not easy. But you know, what sometimes being with a partner is an easy and sometimes being with them. It's even worse than being by yourself. Yeah, if it's not a person, I know I actually said to my therapist I was like, I'm I'm afraid of being alone I think and she was like, no you're not you've been alone for years and I it that really hit home to me meaning lemon in your relationships. You were like, yeah. Wow. Yeah, that's that's so think about that. Yeah, ladies know. It's true. That's a great point. It's a great point. This is awesome Sabrina. Thank you so much. Oh my gosh. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you guys. If you liked this episode, please rate review subscribe. Leave us a comment. Let us know what you thought about it and head over putting everything in the show notes go over to Sabrina's podcast subscribe to our podcast follow on social media. She is just the most wonderful and delicious. We love you. Thank you so much. Bye.
Today we had the opportunity to interview the incredibly inspiring Sabrina Soto!! She is an absolute boss in everything that she does. Not only is she a successful television personality (with a focus in interior design), the owner of her own brand of Rugs and thriving social media and blog but she's also a single mom. Yes, a SINGLE fricking mom. She's such a rockstar. Sabrina opened up about her struggles to find balance between all these parts of herself. She still has huge personal goals she wants to accomplish, life changing solo vacations being one of them ;) Sabrina also shares the daily practice she CAN'T Live without. HER WORK You probably recognize Sabria from her various HGTV shows such as The High Low Project, Design Star, Real Estate Intervention and Get it Sold. Her beautiful face also popped up on White House Christmas, HGTV’s Green Home, Bang for Your Buck, House Hunters, Showdown, Buying & Selling Secrets and served as a judge on the ABC series, The Great Christmas Light Fight! #Currently...you can catch Sabrina as one of the new designers on the reboot of the hit design show, Trading Spaces and While You Were Out on TLC. HER LINKS Sabrina Soto RUGS - http://bit.ly/2p00eNZ Sabrina's WESBITE -http://www.sabrinasoto.com Sabrina's PODCAST - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/redesigning-life-with-sabrina-soto/id1461515995 Sabrina's Dry Shampoo PRODUCT - https://rstyle.me/cz-n/dtghzu7tdw 