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It's a lot going on in wrestling right now. Obviously, it's an incredible time to be in the industry and be a fan of wrestling abso and a little bit later on. We're going to be joined by somebody on a big fan of and a lot of people are going to be big fans of His debt aren't already real soon Chuck Taylors going to join us. So anyways, there's you know bummed out. You know, I got the news was yesterday that debt the wrestling world last Pedro Morales. I thought about having you know, I was going to call George Impala Tonneau because he had some really kind words to say about Pedro and just there's so much to talk about and and I just don't know if I could give Pedro the proper, you know tribute like as far as doing attribution because so many other people I can do this part way. Like I appreciate that appreciate Dave Meltzer had a great tribute wrestling observer radio. It's at least 20 something minutes where he talks about his career and what he meant and all of that. Yeah, so I highly encourage anyone like to go check that out because Dave doesn't amazing job on those career retrospective 's his impact especially in the Latino Community was unbelievable. So and I knew Pedro from in all the years that I worked with WWE. I'm from Taiwan, you know first started there now, he's always such a really nice guy very classy and you know, you could totally even later on I could totally understand why someone would trust putting a world championship on a guy like that and even as a commentator, he broke barriers when he became the first Puerto Rican to do Spanish commentary for an international promotion. He was WWE's and Pedro was ready for all types of action. That was that was like his catchphrase, you know way back in the day, but anything that I like talking about guess we should go ahead and first of all mentioned that he did pass at The age of 76 which you know is still fairly young at least in my opinion Pedro Morales a little bit about him. He beat Ivan Koloff for the WWF Championship three months into his run in the company. He held the bout for close to three years and was always a draw at Madison Square Garden almost to the level of Bruno Sammartino and then in 1980 when he did return he held the tag titles and the Intercontinental title and brought instant credibility to that bow as well. He also became the first First Triple Crown champion in WWF. And as Johnny earlier mentioned he was also one of the first Latinos to be a major Champion so really big also, he was really big here and WWA in Los Angeles. Again, Dave Meltzer goes into a lot more detail about that and why he was so big in WWE as well. So yeah and thank you for that. Nice and wow the wrestling world, you know, you know, it's very sad. And and and we heard and we're going to miss, you know, having Pedro Morales around and he was a great man, and I said this in a tweet and I'm honored to say that I knew Pedro Morales. So rest in peace Pedro gonna miss you. And there's no easy way to transition to transition but there is plenty to talk about globally right now. So did he there really is so literally the day after our podcast last week. We had a lot of news with all elite wrestling as you guys know on Thursday. They held their second pep rally at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas and lots of news came out of that and I'm going to kind of go through we can talk about it, but first and foremost the biggest One is Kenny Omega signing with all elite wrestling we've had speculation. Is he going to stay in you Japan? Is he going to go to WWE. Is it going to go to Ali wrestling? Well, apparently this wasn't an easy. I guess you can say decision for Kenny to make he did listen to everybody's offers. He did go on and explain again on that on wrestling Observer. He went on a really really detailed explanation as to why he chose all elite wrestling. Essentially. He signed a four-year deal with aw. The reason being one he gets to be with his friends. To he gets to have creative control to in his portion 3 he gets freedom for he still wants to wrestle guys from all over the world and all elite wrestling is going to offer them. However, he did go on to say that he has a clause in his contract that still allows him to work with New Japan Pro Wrestling granted of New Japan Pro Wrestling wants that as well. They can definitely do that. And he also went on to say that WWE offered him a tremendous deal that they were nothing but cordial professional and everything that you could Back from a company like WWE and but in the end he signed a four-year deal with aw. Yeah. Yeah, I think that you know, pretty much I think most people thought that was what was going to happen. Yeah, but I know who represents cunning so I knew it was always going to be a possibility unded up in WWE. I mean because like he said, you know, I'm sure. They were ready to roll the red carpet out for him, you know and and and and you know, I'm sure they probably I'm guessing I'm not sure I'm guessing they might have flown him in somewhere, you know to Stamper. I don't know but that's how it used to be done. You know? Yeah, and you know, you give them the Grand Tour event used to be, you know, you know, they bring people to like if you were really coveted you go to bed. Sells hmm, you know, I have a meeting with Ben. So that's how you used to be and I think you know, we talked about the money and the freedom and working with your friends. I think also he's going to save his body a lot more I think with aw with less Road date. So I think maybe that played into it a little bit too. Yeah, I think one of the things that I also wanted to mention was that he did say that part of the reason because you know, obviously, you know, all elite wrestling has they haven't started TV yet. We don't know much about that information. It's still a very big risk for them, but he did say that At part of that risk being there is something that he liked he wanted to be part of something that you know, he has to grow essentially be a part of helping it grow. So that was very interesting as well to hear his perspective. But that's not all the news that also came out of the press conference. So the Lucha Brothers Ray Phoenix and Pentagon jr. Also came out and they're essentially from the looks of it. They're building towards a match a double or nothing against the Young Bucks. We already kind of knew this talking about this prior the week prior, but speaking of Lucha they also announced that they're going to be working with AAA which Definitely opens up a lot more doors for a lot of hot younger talent to come in to the company and work with some of those guys. Yeah. That was that was I was I found that interesting that makes sense. I'll be interested to see who they try to, you know, do the talent exchange with because just to be honest, there's some there's some performers that just don't they don't it doesn't translate. Well, like there's some Some people that are really over Big Time in Mexico and AAA that just it wouldn't work that wouldn't work. You know for various reasons some guys just start like, you know, they're great for what they do down there, but it just ugly AAA has a mix of like gray in-ring performers and some not so great ones that are still really over. Yes, as I guess is what I'm trying to say and I just hope that they don't make the mistake of trying to you know, AAA is a promotion without with a lot of hot acts. Yeah, some of that could go wrong. It's all I'm saying like, you know some stuff that seems great on paper to this is probably going to work. They have a roster so far of 27 individuals and its really International so they did a great job of booking a unique crew so far. So yeah they did. Announced a quite a few Talent which was really exciting including our guests later today with with with best friends Chuck and Trent. So that's going to be really exciting but some other information that came out of that so following after the press conference, obviously, they announced the pre-sale dates and the general admission which pre-sell was what yesterday the day before that and then today was general admission. All those tickets are officially gone presale went by really fast general admission so doubt in what it was reported as four minutes, which is absolutely incredible so good for them because you know, it's just like Just for you know to put that in perspective. Like I've held my breath for four minutes before damn underwater. What's that? Well, why Got Talent what to see how long you can hold your breath? Oh my God, that's impressed. Like our first try or did you work up to format works? Pretty big what up when I was younger. I could okay underwater for a long ass time man. I'm Panic after the me to know it's like yeah, you know, I think John Mica it was just shy it. Doesn't quite four minutes, but it was getting close but four minutes is not that long a time and it's also interesting. They had this rally last week and they said if you go on our website you get a pre-sale code 30,000 people got pre-sell codes the MGM Grand at it's like for boxing at its peak is only 12,000 seats. So that's what I was saying because somebody saying, oh they got a solid 18 thousand tickets. No for that night was set up because I know because I performed the MGM Grand Arena Or wrestling pay-per-view and it holds about 13 roughly. Wow, and the T-Mobile rain across the street. I think can only do 16 or 18. So it's not worth the jump and money. Either way. This is a bigger, you know capacity than all in was step up once again, and I believe Johnny you mentioned earlier about Cody sending a tweet out that tickets have been sold for all 50 states. What was it nine countries as well and countries all 50 states and had knee surgery. So pretty big week for yeah. There you go. So big news for them. Options for you know double or nothing it's clearly going to be, you know, a good show. They actually already have some matches announced with the main one being Kenny and Jericho already being announced and speaking of Chris Jericho. I believe the main event. They already said it's going to be Lucha Bros and I haven't seen that one. It's gonna be good and Jericho could be announced Kenny and I'm Kenny Jericho have been announced hangman page park has been announced and the three the three way for the women's the women's match has also been announced as well. The last I saw bucks. Lucha Brothers hadn't been announced. But obviously that's what they're you know, we're come words one of the things I also wanted to add that we should talk about is Jericho did say that he will be partnered with aw as well for his Crews which I mean was expected January 12 20 that will be happening. And then one of the things we should also definitely be talking about is Dave Bautista is actually in toxic both. Aew and WWE. I don't know how many of you guys have enough sumption. Yes that confirm though because how do we really know? Well, that's what's being talked about again. Yeah. Sweet that Chris Jericho sent out. So I mean, I guess you could only put two and two together. Hmm people are reporting that he's in talks with both. If but those same people who are reporting are the same people who reported last WrestleMania season that Dave wanted to be involved in WrestleMania and W didn't even call him back. Like that was the narrative. That's the same narrative that was floated out there. I don't know how interested they are. I do probably a lot more interested now that there's somebody else on you know, a buyer on the market. Well, yes. And that might be part of it. I think if he's not like locked up by W in any way I wouldn't be shocked if he turned up at something like starcast just as a signing as a thing as a wrestler. No, you're not talking about like a he's not looking for a full-time you maybe like an exclusive I think special appearance kind of a thing or who knows? I don't think he I don't think you'd get a lot of value and Dave Batista full-time. Yes, especially like a broccoli. He's his schedule his age. I may be tough. Yeah, like he he's a special attraction. He's you'll make your money on him on five days. It's there you go. Well either way whether or not I think it still would be smart to at least listen to aw has I think for anybody that's in that sort of position? Why not? Listen to the other offers, even if you're not interested still listen to them either way. So there you go. Well, of course, you know, I mean any other industry like that's exactly how you do it. Like, you know, there's some people in dressed like that kind of like who what are you doing? You know, like that's bad business know it ain't that's straight-up this. All right moving on speaking. Of business we have some really big news for New Japan Pro Wrestling Kota Ebu. She has officially signed is no longer a freelancer with the company and it's now as part of talent for New Japan. This is a huge signing for them because for for for Kota Ebu, she has been an immense incredible talent and they haven't been able to go all the way with him just for the fact that he was a freelancer, but now that he's officially Signs Now, they can sort of you know, really put them out there and I guess put more eggs in his basket. Are you want to say And in truthfully for someone that was a freelancer. They used him really? Well, I had no idea. He was a freelancer. Why do I knew and it always like Babble me like man, they just put him in some big matches for someone and you know, he goes all over he's not always just losing you know, so yeah, imagine like like what they'll put behind him now. Oh Lord, exactly. Because I mean they're definitely going to be tried to fill a you know, sort of Kenny spot. And if you want to say Jai White's filling his spot or maybe Kota will fill a spot. Well, it can go either way speaking of J White. He's the brand new Heavyweight Champion. You can see him in Kota putting on an incredible title match. Yeah exactly what for both guys. They're both gonna have new fresh matchups because you know just code alone. He can he can still have matches with Takashi night to Oak okada, JY all of the he's rest of these guys before but never like in a big giant, you know promotion. And so I really good for them. But before I guess before we jump onto JY I do want to add the fact that this was a big signing fork for New Japan. And now this sort of I guess you can say not balances out but it now shows that a ew and you Japan sort of have something that one in other ones like we mentioned earlier Kenny still has his claws where he can still work with me, Japan and we both agree now, obviously, I think that you know, aw by not having Coda Ebu. She they would have loved to have Kota because they could have paired him up with Kenny and therefore Build had them do tag team matches against Lucha brothers. So count censored the Young Bucks and so on and so forth. So I just want to add that now, you know, they both have something that each other kind of wants bargaining chip. He saw that guy that it seemed like I mean the last thing he wanted to do was be tied down anyone promotion right? I mean it was like man, they must have paid some big money for that. I'm guessing I'm guessing to I III that's the speculation going around. I haven't heard any numbers yet. But I mean if he finally like I guess you can stay settled or settle down with a company. I guess if you want to put it in those terms it had to be good. Yeah, I mean, you know at some point a wrestler has to cash in seriously cash in on all the hard work and and everything and all these spectacular matches and you know all the wear and tear on the body and you know, so yeah good for him. Absolutely rats. Rats debuchy and with the relationship that aw and the people there have with New Japan. It wouldn't be shocking to see him show up on AW at some point either. So yeah, I guess that's what the wait and see game is now if they're going to be willing to work with each other. Who knows but as Johnny mentioned Jai White's Witchblade is now the new IWGP champion. He defeated very shockingly Hiroshi Takahashi add new beginning in Osaka pins him clean and I mean, it's a big deal. He's now Champion since 2011 only other five only five guys have had the IWGP Championship including Hiroshi ton of Hoshi. Okada kg Stiles night. Oh and Kenny Omega and as we know every guy that gado has put the belt on has become a star he did this with AJ Styles in his first match in Japan. He was still not very known in Japan. He gave him the bout became a star Kenny Omega was originally just in a junior heavyweight Division and then once he got the bout he moved up to Main Event status. So this definitely says a lot for Jai White who I may add. It's only 26 See results and I'm six months older than J White so that should show like how much of a bright future he has within the company and your Future's bright to Denise. That's the guy doesn't he looks even younger currently, you know does yeah, you know, so yeah, I haven't seen it yet. So I want to see and it was I was surprised when I when I learned that because I mean didn't ton of Hoshi. Just get the belt back he did. Yeah. So yeah, you know, but that's that's a gator move. And and gaydos pretty you know, I mean, it's it's it's safe to say he's brilliant, you know booking and and so, you know, I'm I'm going to just divert a gaydos judgment on yes, everybody since 2011 everything. They knew Japan has done his seemed to matter. They're so good at selling stuff out and Jay White is really great at drawing the ire of the Japanese fans. And so yeah, so the The idea of like on paper this would look like a Hotshot that the WWE kind of does but how often have they actually done that that I think this will matter that it's a Hotshot if you will that its water versus the rest of the right of matically saw it as a big deal simply because now he's one of those few guys that hold the bow t know because that's the argument is you know, how many champions haven't we seen in other companies that the bout jumps jumps around and you don't really see that in you Japan. So with him it's you know, it's there's that argument either the man makes the bow or the man or the belt makes the Man, it can go either way. It depends. Yeah, it all depends about it. Can you know here in the state for the most part right these days the man makes the belt or the woman makes the belt and that's just because of how the Championships are booked, you know and used but yet no, no no over there a belt is still like putting a championship on on somebody else, you know. Yeah, now that's a it works. Well over there the move towards the future for them for sure good for him exactly for a really nice guy too. I mean not that I mean not that those things do matter being decent human being along the locker room. All right and moving on to our next point of news last week. We had Dave Lagana on our show talking about the Crockett cup and we actually have more news out of that. The NWA has announced that they will be working alongside New Japan and cmll both companies. We'll be sending some of their tag teams over for the Crockett Cup on April 27th as we know both New Japan and cmll our partners with Ring of Honor and they're partnering with Ring of Honor. So there you go. It all ties in and helps build. This helps build the the tag team portion for the show obviously and then the villain Marty's girl will also be challenging for the NWA World Heavyweight Championship at the Crockett. Uh, but yeah, I remember like, you know, when Dave was on last week brought up the fact that you know on the cross. Rocket cups when I was a kid the you know, the world title was defended and you know, and he brought up. Well, you know, what if the champion was in you know and the Crockett cup and so I think they they put it out there kind of like a pole almost. I don't know if anyone saw that like there was a few tweets that you know, I think maybe Nick, you know, yeah the champion even they work should you know, would you rather see me defend the title are being the the right there were some poll tweets out there. Just kind of temperature gauging if you and Le got already. He spoke about it last week. He's so good at utilizing social media and he really wants to know what people think and Brilliant. I mean great. We got Marty scroll and Nick all this fighting for the title on top of the Crockett cup to these of there's a backstory there, but you know, there's a history Marty and neck so, you know, they've there is a there's a I mean they've been friends and and that for many many years and you know as I liked how they did that. I like that and I love how the crack up. I mean it's going to shape up to be something special must see for sure. All right moving on. We also have some WWE topics that we want to hit and one of them is Becky being removed from her WrestleMania match and having Charlotte added and Becky is now on a 60-day suspension which they said and four days after WrestleMania. So I kind of wanted to gauge your guys thoughts because obviously Twitter had a field fast, but it was brilliant. It was it was absolutely brilliant and You know the fact to me like Twitter outrage is the new like crowd Boos in the arena for when you're trying to get heat. Yeah that nothing more for the most part in my opinion. I mean you get the occasional like I'm going to cancel my subscription whatever yada yada and some people do I imagine but for the most part they're just blowing off steam and that's their way of booing. I swear to God. What it is these days and Charlotte took full advantage. She was trolling people on social media Twitter Instagram. 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Also, make sure you follow us you never miss an episode of AfterBuzz TV Angie's she's leaning in and WB is leaning into the feeling and I've said this about the Becky Charlotte stuff months ago that by keeping Charlotte not You'll they and then having Becky be as hot as she was they bordered on the Roman Reigns response for Charlotte and they're leaning into that Heart by saying. Oh you don't like Charlotte don't like Charlotte like Becky. Yes. We're going to wrong Becky my only note on Monday night. I'm sure they had a dark match after Monday Night Raw, but I really if Becky Lynch this Firebrand got suspended and they took away her opportunity. I wanted to see a Bret Hart level smash the tables destroy destroy. The ring kind of a fit if she was suspended after raw. They had the riot Squad come out and attack Ronda Rousey and Becky and they sort of teamed up to take out the riot Squad at that wasn't necessarily A match but it was more of a blow. It was a blowing off of steam gotcha so that at least explains because what I what I wanted to see or hear is that Becky was so upset like oh this is it this is it let's tear the room apart. Yeah, there is I read it was actually just one person that just can't Become plane and they were going on and on about oh, this is stupid. Like, you know, the whole things being built around her apologizing like it's look I it wasn't stupid like my opinion. I like if you understand like how somebody's Pride can get in the way of you know, that making the right decision, you know, For their future like it's a really simple and powerful thing and you know, oh, it's just an apology. I thought it was refreshing very well done. I thought it was refreshing as most of the time the person never apologizes. He punches the other person in the face and a fight breaks out. No, she actually listened to Finn Balor and said, you know what? All right, my bad. I'm sorry. Let's do WrestleMania. I thought it was a cool thing to see for once. I questioned the week-to-week decision-making and authority of Triple H and Stephanie in this That one week they're like you have to see a doctor and she was like no. I'm not seeing a doctor and then the next week like oh, well, you saw a doctor, but you've to apologize for punt like that felt that episodic didn't feel great to me. I it was clear. They left a couple of these crumbs to have this kind of a journey heading into WrestleMania including maybe the fit Finlay letting her into the match to begin with. I feel like that was a crumb they laid in case they wanted to use it because they didn't know what they wanted to use, but they for sure want to take Becky out of this match put Charlotte into this match. To then put that key back into this match. So yeah, the people that are complaining and all in, you know, in an uproar, you know, besides themselves. I mean, you know, they're the hero has to have you know adversity. Yes along the way like, okay what we just make the match and okay. Here you go. Like, you know, no roadblocks on the way to WrestleMania but to pay-per-view, like don't be stupid, too. Is she going to do a tag like is she gonna tag with Ronda Rousey against the riot Squad? Like I don't want to see like that's not really going to fit. I don't want them in a ring with each other unless it's going to be this match plus, you know, let's not forget Kevin Owens recently bit up beat up Vince AJ Styles recently knocked Vince out. You think we're not going to get Becky doing something to Vince McMahon for suspending her. I think we will and that's going to be very entertaining. Yeah, but anyone anyone who's on Twitter right now complaining. Oh my God Charlotte Flair, how are they taking this match? You've been worked and it worked on you. And that was me exactly what my point was about. That was me for 10 minutes Monday fucking alai genus loved it. And we also have some changes to the Elimination Chamber match this Sunday Mustafa. Ali is now out due to a concussion and Kofi Kingston has replaced him in the match. Did you guys have any thoughts on that? Yeah. Well, I mean I thought hope he did a great job. He was great, you know, and then that guys always ready. Yeah for situations like that. I think you know maybe any of those three. Yeah, you know, but tough break for Mustafa, you know, it's and this is a thing that we have to and I say we I'm talking about people like Mustafa I had to deal with it because I'm about some of similar size as he as when you're not working with guys your own size and everyone's Way bigger than you guys aren't afraid to run right through you, you know and not even hitting you in dangerous places, but just the Collision alone and sometimes it'll ring your bell and you know, like so yeah that might I mean I'm worried worried maybe isn't the right. I have a little bit of concern that that might be a I hope that's not an ongoing theme. Well, that's all I'm saying, you know people. it's just say people like the bigger guys like I'm with you for sure. I as a healthcare person. I'm with you on that. I just hope that guys are now taking advantage of the hyperbaric oxygen that Daniel Bryan did because he shows no more signs of concussions. So I think guys can be doing that throughout their career, hopefully and hopefully, you know, I would just when I'm saying is just the it's it's easy for it because I've been the bigger guy strangely enough. I've been the bigger guy like, you know working with guys like Mysterio or you know, Ray it's different other guys that I was quite a bit bigger than And it's easy to not realize even look guys bigger than me. Is that so hard, you know, like I cried I had some guy with the clothesline last year and like wrong Isbell pretty good and I am going to save spot so like, you know, and it's not something where like guys I should be I just think I should be mindful like okay. This guy's hundred pounds lighter than me. Maybe I shouldn't hit him full on even if it's in the same spot there. And the question becomes is that the conversation that they're having right now. I don't know or is the conversation like maybe Mustafa Ali needs to curb his style which isn't shouldn't be the conversation. But how does someone bring up that conversation? Hey, you know you can't just say hey, maybe go a little lighter on me or what else there's no way there's no way because there's no way Mustafa would say it in a million years if his life depended on he probably wouldn't say it because I wouldn't the trainer's I love the agents. I was I when I was 1 2 3 Ed I had a string of house shall matches what Waylon Mercy Dan Danny Spivey. Wow. Yeah and every night he took my fucking head off with a clothesline by when seething but killing me, my neck was fucked up and everything and like eventually one night. He hit me so hard and I just ran right into it fucking it blew his bicep out. Oh, yeah. He was fucked up but like yeah like so I don't honestly think Danny knew. He was I mean, he wasn't trying to go out of his way to take it easy on me, but he wasn't trying to kill me, you know, so I mean those types of things can happen. Yeah, we don't know the level of the concussion. Hopefully the timing and position it when another when a bigger guy says it to somebody like, you know, You don't hear like all good take it easy like a little you know, I just think that it's a little guy is a smaller smaller wrestler is maybe a little bit more apprehensive to complain about you know, yeah. Well, you can't handle being in there with the big guys. There's plenty of time. I got there was times when I got knocked out like every single match because I was working with the same guy. Every night and we're doing the same spots and knew it was coming but I'll fucking knocked out. So yeah anyway, so it's just how do we have these conversations? And how do we you know swallow our pride and realize that we're we got to say things sometimes, you know, I don't know what how this even have. Yeah, and I've taken a long time to talk about this so he had a black and blue. I am not sure. I think it happened over the weekend. I think it just the concussion. Protocol timing just doesn't work out even if it's a minor concussion. You have to take a few weeks off and it just happens to fall on chamber Sundays. Hopefully Mustafa will be back soon and people are like guys some people were playing and Randy Orton that wasn't it and that no. No, you look like a bad kick to the head is what I thought it was but I'm not sure they're they're saying it was rowing on the table for storyline, but I think it like the scar looks just it looked like he was he was a table not supposed to break when he got chokeslam do it you would have you would hope it was supposed to break. The table didn't break sometimes those tables. Yeah, I think I'll be fine. I'll be fine. Well, before we go to break we do have one more thing Shawn you wanted to talk about NXT. You wanted to talk about Matt rid o Drew garlic and lemon juice. Did anyone see it? Yeah. Yeah. So all the jerk who like men had a big day. Yeah, so and I had I had Drew on one because last year I think was Smackdown taping. I went down to Staples Center and a couple, you know, no taped a few interviews and Drew was one of them and I remember mentioning, you know, I cuz you know, I know Matt and I got but I've been you know on a matched Champions since I first trained with them at the monster Factory and I've been singing his Praises ever since but Matt really really enjoyed working with Drew who lack on I think some evolve shows probably. Yeah, and and so we talked about that, you know. anyways fast forward to the other day Wednesday and XT those guys hadn't credible wrestling match and and one of the things that I wasn't it didn't surprise me because I knew they would but what surprised me the most was just how educated the audience was and how they responded to everything accordingly and and it was just it was refreshing and it was really Nice and you know and I love seeing that especially for ghoul act to because he's become such a strong character that people often forget how technically skilled he is. I mean before he went to WWE you didn't see him talking a lot. He was the mat technician and now he does both that's a that's a big weapon for them to have also Drew Glock was episode 77. It's well, it's been a while, right? Yeah. Did you want to add and get about the women's match? Any standouts? Oh, yeah. Oh, thank you. So good. Just will carry saying to me whenever she got in the ring. Like that was when the people were making the most noise to me just even just in there and shining in the beginning part. You know, she just knows how to have the audience in the palm of her hand. Sure. I wow. Yeah. Yeah, I mean this match I just like to I like the combination. I like to Bianca with with those two. To and you know, jessamyn Duke is really good. She's going to be great Marina started a little bit later and she seemed to be doing just fine. What's the deal with her nose? Item, I'm not sure that's as far as I know. The mask is just for an aesthetic thing. I've heard that it's any sort of a protective but she's been wearing it in. So is there like a gimmick? I got my nose broke not even if there if there is they're not saying it on TV. Okay. All right, just or that she's that bad ass didn't no one's asked her about the mask. Anyways, the moves the match was great. It was great. And I just wanted to bring it up because I want I want to give credit where it's deserved to me this match really showcase. Yosh arrived for people who haven't seen a lot of her so far. What was she incredible? When do we when do we think the Kyrie scenario? Sure, I match happens. And how do we like I would hope they hold off as long as possible. Now that they have the Tag Team Championships. I don't think it'll happen anytime soon Fair. Yep. So yeah anything else doing? No, that's it's time for a break. All right. We're going to be right back with Chuck Taylor AKA sexy, Chucky teeth. Welcome back to Xbox One to 360 everyone joining us over the phone right now. Not sure where he's at but I'm a big fan of his and then wanting to have them on the show for a while. And he's one of the newest signees for all eat wrestling and name is Chuck Taylor everyone Make Some Noise. Yeah. Hey Chuck. I have great man. Hey everyone. I think everyone already knows that Chuck is as One of the funnier guys on wrestling Twitter. They're like Shane Helms and some other people but I've been a big fan of yours Chuck. I don't know if you know that or not but like ever since I saw you at Chikara Oh, wow. Yeah. Thank you. And I really do appreciate it. Like I think I've told you before like I think you're probably the most underrated wrestler of all time. And so it's really cool that that you think that hey. Hey did we have them? I'm pretty sure we actually had a match together, didn't we? Yeah, are you allowed to talk about that because I have inch Cara it was I thought you were one of the ice creams when I wrote where that's at the ice creams. Listen to the one you did. Yeah, I think that came up and he was still trying to be like no, I don't know what you're exactly. Yeah. I was wondering if you were going to do that. I can't confirm or deny. I'll tell you it's possible. Okay, just it was it was really fun working with you. Do you? Okay. Do you enjoy ice cream? Can you answer that all of it? Okay, well and fully regret it. Alright confirmed also. Hey, I'm going to get this out of the way to as Chuck has one of the dude and I said this to you on Twitter you have one of the very nicest piledrivers I've ever seen in wrestling. Thank you. So Chuck I want to know obviously you recently signed with all elite wrestling. I want to know what made you sign with them. And what do you hope to bring to all elite wrestling? I signed them because I've known I've known the Young Bucks for like over 10 years now sure since I started in pwg and I just I really like those guys and I really believe. Legitimately think it's it could be a real alternative to W. Do you feel any pressure beat in a tag team division with the Lucha Brothers the Young Bucks? So Kalin censored? No, no, no never ever in tag team wrestler taking with me staying on the apron for a while. Like what wasn't the last time I saw you but I it was a it was a probably about two years ago. I came to pwg and you had you had a title match was it you won the title that night didn't you? Yeah, exactly. What jr. That's right. It didn't you hit him with the pile driver like right off the bat. Yeah, am I going to yeah that's deep into the weeds. And I think I shook his hand and gave him a pile to yeah, it was crazy man. That caught me so off guard but wasn't it was a great match and you know, some people might think that that's a crazy way to start to match but it worked it worked for how you guys did the whole rest of the match. Yeah, thank you. I think if you've ever seen a pwg, so I think that like any rules go out the window. So it's fun to try to play with, you know with structure and everything. Well you've been on pwg for a bit now, I want to know what's it been like for you to be a part of I guess you can say one of the most exciting a wrestling crowds out there. I love it. It's always been my favorite place to wrestle for the most part. It's just it's so funny. The crowd is so especially, you know in the last few years like the crowd is so excited and they just they love everything and you know, like I said, you get to you get to play with different things and in the crowd is there for it. So it's I think it's one of those. I mean, I think it's the best independent promotion maybe ever And you started like I was reading that because Kentucky is is a permit. No, it's it's a commission state that so you were 15 when you started yet to go wrestle on the other states surrounding, Kentucky. Yeah, I was a sophomore in high school. Yeah, yeah wasn't allowed to wrestling Kentucky's Let It Go like Tennessee and Alabama and places like that. Did you finish did you finish High School? Yeah, I finished College to have a college degree. Holy shit. What's that degree in? Television production and with a minor in film studies. Wow. So I just like that it was I found it interesting because you know, I started when I was 15 to her as well. Sorry and but I started in Florida. I don't think there ever been a commission in Florida. It was pretty wide open. You know, I mean if I was third Republic very cute, very few is an interesting place to start wrestling. There's a lot of good wrestlers there though, which is Anyways, it's going to tell you a big story about me, but it's not about me today. But going back to your degree though, you know television television production. Yeah studies now that you're with Ali wrestling, which is clearly a Hands-On company where some of your best friends are in charge. You could utilize a lot of those skills into making at least digital content to say the least. Oh, yeah, that's I mean, that's the reason I did that in call Ashley. The reason I started doing video editing and stuff. Like that was because of WrestleMania 17 that Limp Biscuit My Way video. Yeah, the one that great. Yeah. It was amazing, right so good. Put of content stuff on my own basil. So have you been as it come in handy thus far? absolutely, I would when I was first starting out me and ricochets an NXT now I helped train him and when we were first start on the roads and stuff before you food, like was you know, the Giant thing it is Charles like math isn't stuff like that put them online. And and I think that really helped us get booked places. Well speaking of Ricochet. That's actually one of the questions. I wanted to ask you is that you guys wrestled each other through various stages of your career. How has it sort of been seen the evolution of both of your careers, you know come about It's crazy like what he's done with his career. Like I went to the NXT show in Philly. I live in Philly now. And I went to the NXT show there the one where Gargano wrestled. Andrade almost take over. Yeah. Yeah, and I think yeah got me tickets to go and introduce Ricochet in the crowd. The way he history is gone. It's just crazy to me. Yeah, because like when I met you and Chikara, he was there too. And he was like if I didn't even remember it was him because he looked so different he had that long straight hair and he was I mean, he wasn't he hadn't grown into his you know physique yet. And yeah, man, it's so crazy. And so and he like such a like one of the really like like good human beings to man on top of it. Yeah, he really deserved. Anything is God. He works so hard how emotional wasn't the night when you took the title pwg from him considering you've known each other for almost you know, what two decades and you know, you knew he was kind of moving on to the next phase of his career. Yeah at the end like I think think I hugged him and told him I was proud of him and stuff like that. And I think we both got a little little emotional. It's wrestling the funny thing like, you know, we're play fighting an underwear. But like this is what we're thinking our life. Like, you know, the emotions are real. Well speaking of funny things. I gotta ask you there are several videos of you going out and making kids cry. I want to know has there ever been like a parent that I like took it seriously and maybe got upset with you for making his kid cry. Oh absolutely multiple death threats. Hey, Chucky, your don't you have a show on high spots Network? Yeah, me and Trent barreta have our own yeah interview interview is being generous to what we do but a little show that we do. Yeah, and how is that like, how's that? How's that going? Do you guys have yeah, it's basically I mean free money. All we do is like we drink beer and asking dumb questions. Do you have guests? Yeah, yeah, we always have one guest visiting. Do you ever have anyone over the phone? Now we've ever done over the phone because it's a video thing. So like I think it would just be a video of us sitting I'm trying I'm trying to get I'm trying to get on Chuck Taylors high spots Network. So we can I come on your show Chuck. Do you have any dream opponents in wrestling in general or in aw specifically? People that you haven't faced yet that you'd like to. Yeah, I guess I guess it works for both. I think Chris Jericho's always been one of my very favorite wrestlers and and the fact that he's still as good as he is, you know this long into his career. I'd love to have a mess with him. Yeah. I'd like to see that me to I'd like to see that. Yeah. Well speaking of aforementioned Trent you guys, you know, the aw rally. I know nothing about fashion, but The denim that you both sported how much thought went into that prior to because it was it was something to behold. We've actually going to do that for a while. I don't know if you've I think most people understood what we were doing. But I do yeah, of course. Yeah, I did got all day dude. Yeah, we've always thought that was so cool looking. I'm sure Scott still has that somewhere and he's probably willing to sell it could have gotten it again the real one. Yeah last year. End of the tour and we were going to both wear that at the press conference but to cancel the press conference. So the way that you know, when we went over to aw, it seemed like the right move is meant to be for sure. So obviously we have double or nothing coming up, but I want to ask what was your experience like at all in? It was so incredible. Like like I said, I was Young Bucks for more than like, I think it's been 11 12 years now and like we used to not be able to sell out that Legion Hall in Reseda, like right we can fill it with 400 people and now the fact that them and Cody and the whole group were able to sell out an arena like what 13 12 13 thousand people took it was Unreal and the production of doing the show is great the fans were so excited. It was just kind of wish we were you know in a Your match it was great to be in that that during the pre-show Battle Royal which was still amazing. But you know, hopefully moving forward we can be in a bigger masses. Well going back to that night, you know, this is obviously September 1st. So a while before the aw announcement was made what was the thought process behind everyone backstage saying wow, we're really onto something we sold out in 37 minutes. Did you start hearing things then like Hey, we're going to do it again. And we're going to have TV in this hold like, what did you think during that? at those moments specifically They were ever since I can say so long as tickets for all. Jacksonville Jaguars faint there's no Jaguars fans, it's fine. Thanks. Hey Chuck, you know, I remember I think it was actually when I saw you at one of the last g'kar events we were both. Like ice were I had read something a few years back that WWE was interested in and was going to take a look at you. And and then when I asked you about it, I don't know if you remember this. You were like No And that surprises me man, because I you know, I just I think that you had you have so much to offer even even them. Yeah. I did a try. Help it's the one they sign basically the whole 205 NXT like Gargano and dry fun. Good luck and only lorcan and that riddle and like basically everyone but me got sign from that so I don't I don't understand what they were looking for that they didn't see in you I swear to God, I don't get that one bit. This is you know, secondhand third-hand story, but I heard that there was something like Triple H came in and they had like Yeah, so what are the things I obviously have to ask you about is you spend some time obviously in Japan with New Japan. I need to know what was your experience like working over there. And did you feel any sort of culture shock anything like that? Man, I love Japan so much. I'd actually that's my I've worked for two other promotions in Japan. I went in 2009 for big Japan and then 2011 for Dragon Gate. So I kind of knew what I was getting into but New Japan is it's the best man. I don't love it so much. It really was a really really really really really tough decision that me and Trent had to make between the two hundred being aw in Japan. Yeah, Chuck I really Like the dynamic of your relationship your intra have as far as what you present as a tag team, it's different. It's different and very cool very very like, you know, not just trying to copy off of you know, things people have done in the past. It's pretty cool the best friends thing. Yeah, thank you. If it's so good. I can't like he was in WB for a long time. It's yeah. Yeah, but they got rid of him. He looked like he looks like he's you know, I think he's got much better from not being there. To be honest with you. I think it's not enough. Yeah. Yeah. I look at guys like Trent and like John Morrison and you just Sometimes life isn't fair. And some people just have better genetics in the rest of us. That's guys are so handsome. It's crazy. Yeah, it's Lexie. He eats whatever you want and he still ripped to shreds like I look at pizza and I gained five pounds boastful. And that you know was a hard decision for you guys to make but I want to know was there ever some point where you guys were maybe not on the same page in terms of which direction you were going to go? I think we both. I don't realize that that especially at the part we're not careers now, like maybe we're better off as a payment of singles guys. At least for the for the time being I think, you know, we both wavered which way to go for sure like I think he at one point in blaming definitely more New Japan, but But schedule so top and he's got a dog now and you know, that's ridiculous. Not a very good one. Sure. my dogs running around right now and Yeah, it's tough being away from them like brutal. So how do you feel about being like you're gonna be seen by a new audience with all elite wrestling. How does that feel or excite you? Actually thinking about this the other day when we they did the announcement for us in a ew, I think I have some kind of tweet draft in my draft folder simply effective like the bigger you get the more idiots watching you. Yeah, like there's so many new kingdoms are going to be watching us now just bad people. Go over so well with some people on Twitter specific specifically the people who followed you in the last week early. Yeah, am I the subject of his tweet? So there is a there is a there wasn't tweet you tweeted out the other day and I just had to respond. It was something along the lines of when I die. I wonder the most famous wrestler will be to tweet about it. You remember that? I'm like me. Everything it's just like I think there's a who is it? Anthony? Jeselnik has a quote or some like that. Like don't forget about me and it's always about us because it's because you know when they died were the first thing we do is put a picture of us with the person that died up on our Twitter. That's when Stanley died. I forgot who it was that mentioned that But he went out and like said that and everybody got pissed at him or I need to take a picture with you just in case of death Twitter for this reason it on the high spot showing your guests. So Chuck John mention it right at the start here at the top. You know, you're hilarious in the ring. You know for the longest time. You have been what are your comedic inspiration Zoe growing up? Who did you watch whether it's TV film wrestling that kind of evolved your style help you evolve your style, you know as as a person and as well as a performer. Oh, man. Yeah, just always been in you know. So how did you come up with a grenade spot too? It's just something I used to do to make my friend laughing in Spanish class in high school and pretend to throw grenade and pretend to blow up and then I got I got to a point where I like to call it. My career was kind of like I would just do stuff to make my It sounds like it sounds like it would be right at home in Chicago though. Yeah, that's why I did it. Like I think people see the clip and think that like I'm doing these unlike these big like serious shows like shekhar has it's basically a comedy promotions. It's a comic book come to life. Like, you know, I'm not doing this one grand stayed in because you do the mixed mixed a grenade spot in the slow-motion spot. I think we did that one. For anyone that doesn't know what I'm talking about in Chikara, and I'm not sure who started it there. But I just remember finding out about it right in the middle of my match and I just about shit because these guys started going into their spot in slow motion and I never seen it and I knew I didn't know what any of it was about and I swear to God I want to get in there and beat the shit out of both of those guys. And then like and then I ran then I realize everyone's getting with it with the fuck. Am I talking about like, you know can't beat them join them. And and I remember the next time I was there I was doing the same damn spot and then Tommy Dreamer and then Tommy Dreamer dreamer pulls a remote out of his pocket and and hits the button and everybody freezes. Yeah. He hits the pause. But anyways, that's the kind of shit that would happen in Chikara. Yeah. It's a really fun really fun promotion. No doubt, how what do you say to the people that don't like that to each his own? I think that like there's certain people that like like some certain old school guys that like, you know, well Like hate it and everything but like their generation is the one that told everybody. It was fake in the first place. Like we can't you guys told him. It's like we can't just come in now be like no, it's really good. Sorry. Like if you're telling me like hey, how dare you? Get in there listening face. The thing about that. This is a for my opinion. Okay, for instance Chikara, that's a certain like sub-genre of Russell. It's it's fantasy. It's comedy. If you want to have a promotion that doesn't do any of that. You know, you know Chic a Nori and just plays it straight like you can have that too. You know, I mean, yeah genres. It's like movies like it's different types of Port of the Because the comedy movie exists doesn't mean that you know, an action movie can like doesn't mean a drama can't I think that I think they can be down as and everything absolutely but hey, so anything Russa is more subjective than ever people are going to love what they love and hate what they hate and bottom line is wrestling is huge right now. So hey, there's something for everyone. Hey Chuck he did for sure. Do you have a you have some new merch out? Yeah, he put up some kind of Christmas merch. Leaves rustling once every like the year before the year after the year before that that make sense. Okay, you would leave it wasn't any better than the year prior. I want to know obviously that's not going to happen anytime soon. Since it's looking like it's just going upward from here. Do you have any comments on that? Yeah, I think that's always been my plan like, you know, if one year is not better than the last and maybe it's time to at least think about it up but so far. Hopefully we can keep that going. Hey, so they Chuck in a ew, do you see yourself having the behind-the-scenes role as well? Because you know, where as we were talking about earlier, you know with the TV production background has that is that anything that you all have talked about or is that just something you're thinking about down the road? Yeah, let me talk about it formerly with anybody but it's always the plan. I think I'm stuck in reference or life. So I think I'll always be around it in some form or fashion. It's a time. So I had right after the big, you know announcement of the start of the promotion. Tony Kahn came on the show and he talked about, you know, you know, we asked him about the you know, the talk of Health Care and things like that need any mention. Well the some of the guys will Also be like front office employees. Do you see yourself in that role is that is that a role that you guys have talked about? Not again, like haven't had any kind of formal conversation about it right now. Just just a lonely wrestler. But yeah, I think someday like of course like yeah, I just I think I could I would you're somebody I'd like to have in my inner circle if I was if I was running a wrestling promotions. That's why I asked my last thing is I just want to say it's long overdue. Congratulations. You are it's weird how the path we Taking our careers. You never know where you're going to end up and sometimes you wonder what really is happening. But you know, it all worked out because I think you would agree. You're at the best possible destination where you could have ever asked for and so it's well deserved and congratulations on from all of us. Yeah. Yai. Yai cosine that and I'm really happy for you and you know some other buyers in the market that may have passed on you before my you know, gosh it should hire that guy. I think I really do appreciate thank you. I guess it's the proof that you know, just wait 17 years and all your friends will get sign and eventually there'll be no one left. That's the moral to the story. It's called the moral to the story is stay the course. Yes, but hey, hey Chuck. I really appreciate you coming on man spending time with us today. And like I said, I'll say it again and I'll say it over and over again. I'm a big fan of yours, and I can't wait to see what you do in aw Trent. Yep. So, thank you so much. Hey real quick. Thank you. I'm real quick Social Media stuff. Yes, so people know where to find you. Twitter and Instagram at sexy Chuck-E-Cheese, see if you see Ki which is that I regret and gentlemen, sexy. Thank you. Chuck. Have an awesome day man. What a show packed. Thank you. For helping me out with that one more than more than usual. Well, I appreciate we love talking to people and you know, we're all fans of Chuckles. So me to absolutely happy for that guy, you know and and you know, sometimes greatness can be overlooked, you know, and and it's like and it's like he mentioned I bet you that's exactly what happened. We got too many good-looking white guys. I can totally see that I know that sounds crazy, but I could totally see that and I think at one point and I think this was real. I remember Chuck announcing he was done with wrestling at one point maybe about four or five years ago and ended up coming back. And I know I know there were times where Scorpio Sky thought the same thing and they both stuck it out and look where they're at now. Yeah, so if you love what you do just got to keep at it. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah like Scorpio. Yeah, that's another one. Also, I think the trout he's talking about if it were one Gargano and shop and everyone it would have been 20. Team right before the Cruiserweight classic just to kind of give a timeline I guess. But yeah, there were a lot of good looking. Like I said that Crews were a classic. Hey, so did I mention I'm going to go down to the performance center? No, no shell tell us. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I think I might in March. I'm gonna go down coach down there beautiful. Yeah. All right. Great. Yeah. Yeah. Just wanted to mention that I'm looking forward to it. It'll be my first time stepping foot in the performance center. Actually. It's a great crew down there for sure. Yeah, and and I was just looking at Everyone that they have down there now and I know so many of those folks down there and like I've worked with a lot of them and I you know, some of them like, you know, like riddle and like there's some like punishment Martinez and guys like that and I love punishment Marty. Yeah credible. Yeah those guys, you know, I mean I worked out with those guys that monster Factory whenever I get a chance and you know, and then this other guys like you know that Her down there that I've been on shows with done, you know International tourism Ricochet, you know, Scotty 2 Hotty is there. Yeah, it's see him. Again Matt and Matt Bloom who's you know, what he hit me up about it. Was it felt really good because yeah, he's always been so respectful to me and I he was what he was my choice. I like when they put PJ and I together as X Factor we needed a big big heavy, you know, and there was there was a few guys around there and like to me like I just not bloom was like man. He soaked up knowledge like a sponge he was so he you know, he He was like just you know show gratitude towards me of you know for coaching him and taking the time, you know, picking them or whatever, but like man, like he was just a dream person to be able to teach it go off in the you know, but so it feels good when he called me in. Wants me to come to pass on some knowledge to everyone down there. Really a tremendous assets everyone. Yeah, we're excited for that's right. Cool. Yeah, and you know anyways, I was mentioning something about Jericho. I was I was I was I was communicating with Chris earlier. I'll speak about it later. All right, but he let's just go through the, you know, tell us so we can find everyone and let's get the fuck out of here. You guys can find me on Twitter almost exclusively. I'm at Steve. Often that is Ku f ma and then I run a lot of pro wrestlers YouTube pages. So if I'm tweeting the link, I'm involved to support them. You'll support me. 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Sean and the team Chuck Taylor from the Best Friends to discuss his recent signing with All Elite Wrestling, teaming with Trent Baretta, his WWE Tryout in 2016 as well as discuss Becky Lynch’s rocky road to Wrestlemania, Mustafa Ali’s Concussion, Jay White winning the IWGP Heavyweight Championship and more on today’s episode of X-Pac 12360! About The Show: Sean “X-Pac” Waltman brings a podcast with a full circle look at life from outside the squared circle. Westwood One and the Jericho Network presents X-Pac 12360. X-Pac has many stories to tell that may help listeners relate, inspire them in their own lives, or just be entertained. And of course, there will be guests. So plan on seeing his group of usual suspects along with a mix of wrestlers, celebrities, and comedians. X-Pac has known and shared many road trips, locker rooms, and life moments with these guests. Where these conversations will go? No one knows, but we do know they will be entertaining. With X-Pac, guests are just friends hanging out having a chat about old times and new frontiers. Listening to these conversations will make you feel like you are a fly on the locker room, green room, or bar wall. ---   This episode is sponsored by  · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. 