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Hey, guys, I'm Chelsea Stark Jones and I am joined with Ashley Daniels has yes. Hi. We're missing our men. I know Ronnie Ronnie. Oh, I promised we'd all be together. So one day I think I think there's fully implementing me back into the Real Housewives panel by just giving me one person at a time. Just hear me out. Yeah. Yeah. I love it. I love it, but not too much happened this episode, but we're still kind of like laying the groundwork like A acquainting ourselves with the women. So let's just Dive Right In. What were your well, what were your initial thoughts so far this episode. That was great. I thought it was very interesting to see the ladies having this confrontation. I mean, I just remembered Orinda and Luann being so close and being I don't know Unstoppable together. So to see them in this situation now, it's it's a lot of drama early on we don't usually get this much this quickly. Yeah, so did and there weren't you? Too stubborn women and I think that's why it feels like it's not going anywhere and it's just building. I also really enjoyed the stuff with Bethany this episode. It was very heartfelt. I almost started crying but we'll get into that a little bit later. But yeah, we start off with the Clambake the controversial Clambake the infamous Clambake has been hearing all about. Yeah. So the render did not know she got disinvited remote it kind of takes her. A job at Barbara when she first comes in and says in her confessional that she feels like she was never really her type of girl because she was a little bit too masculine a manly it's such a Ramona thing to do is like take a dig at somebody. Yeah, and then we learn a little bit more from Bethany that Dennis actually proposed to her and April and I didn't I didn't know that he proposed she was wearing his the engagement ring that he gave her it was Private was something that kept between themselves. Yeah. It was a very Interesting situation for Bethany because she wasn't a hundred percent ready to marry him. Although she loved him but there were a lot of things that she kept personal but I think we can all assume that they weren't on the same page that moment in time. Yeah. She had mentioned that was a very awkward proposal because it wasn't that she said yeah, she said well, we still need to figure out this and this look look the logistics pretty much. Yeah, because Tinsley pointed it out. It was the first time Tinsley hadn't run into Bethenny I think she also said she was dead inside at that moment what she says later on when she talked about it, but we don't know exactly what she's referring to but we can probably assume has something to do with the residue of just this what seven-year battle in court with Jason Hoppy and I think just failed relationships, you know happening one after the other for her and having this custody battle and then having everything going on with that and the be A TV star and being a mom I think was probably so much that she was like, okay like engagement for me. Like right now I'm going to place where yeah, it's just too much. Yeah, he was dreaming more. I think he wanted something more which is so sweet. Yeah. It's very romantic. But yeah, of course the the blondes come into the party and we see Luanne kind of get a little bit confrontational with Ramona asking like are we going to talk about this and Ramona just like No, do we think she should have just addressed it and squashed it and bend over like done with it. I think that no, I don't think so. I think she handled it. Well, yeah. Yeah, did you do I think Ramona handles are well. Yeah. No. No, of course. No, sorry. I understand your question. Yeah, if handled the Luann confrontational about what like okay, or she should have addressed Luann and the issues that they have been having. I think she could have a I said I don't think she handled it. Well at all. Yeah. Yeah, I kind of felt that the way in which Luann brought it up to her was a little bit aggressive. Yeah, but I do think Ramona could at least spoken to her and Barbara romantic goes and runs to Barbara and talk to Barbara about it and Ramona's just doesn't she doesn't back down and it I love her. I think she's hilarious, but she'd never really sees when she's wrong or well except when she's wrong. So yeah with Barbara she was upset that, you know you spreading these rumors about her getting kicked out of that guy's party and Ramona's like well, she'd even deny it she you know, will she dodged when at the beginning she didn't want to talk to the land but yes in regard to Barbara and being kicked out of Chris purchase party Barbara made that clear that was not the case and said she was actually with Luann well with Luann that moment so then of course Ramona goes backward and Well, also this happened yet another event and she said we're not talking about that right now. We're talking about Chris Burch is party. So she was kind of caught in a lie in that situation because I do believe Barbara Barbara was with her. Why would you make that up exactly reason to so yeah, I yeah and Ramona didn't say sorry. I was wrong or anything like that. She did like go back and come up with another story about Luann. I love Sonja is lying about like Ramona's only like Phil cares about Luann's right a variety. Yeah. I was just going to actually ask you that because it do you think she do you think that she does because there is a part of Ramona that excuse me. Mmm, even when Bethenny was going through her health issues, I think last season bleeding. Yeah. Ramona was the one that called her every day. Yeah, and when Bethenny's father died, I remember Ramona called her every day. Ramona is a very she's a caretaker. So in this situation I I think she and said her inserted herself As a caretaker friend, but do you think that she was concerned? I was actually having this thought on my way. And today I think that all these women care for one another unlike a deeper level because they've been through it together for so long that they're willing to take these Digs at one another and like slight each other and whatnot. But like at the root of it. I do think she cares I do but I think she she gets in her own way and covers it up with like these nasty like remarks and that moment when Barbara was confronting her about like spreading these rumors. I don't think she particularly cared but like like when she was going through it at the time like getting back into rehab and all that stuff. I do think she cared now, I think she's like over it like you're talking about too much like who whatever but yeah. I think they all have one another's back and I and that's something I do really appreciate about this. Shows because they've known each other for their genuine friendship. I think it's also and I don't know if you were going to bring Subs, but I'm gonna going on to Ramona. She's talking about the tension that she felt and why she didn't feel comfortable going over to Bethany and when they were discussing Bethany losing dentist. Yeah, and they asked they asked her if she had texted Bethany's they asked Ramona if she texted Bethany Barbara and so needed in a She also reached out and she said I just texted her and then I said this is the time to go over right now. And she said no, I don't want to go over right now. There's too much tension over there. Louis could say something to me. I don't think she's proud of that moment as we saw and I'm sure you guys have heard who are listening or watching right now the news that Ramona felt awful about some of the digs she gave tonight regarding Dennis. She said she was just horrified at how she and that's not a direct quote, but she did not feel proud of the things that she said tonight. So I'm sure this is one of those moments. Wasn't too proud of but what do you think about that moment when she decided I mean those cameras are on her just like cameras there and she doesn't want to walk over and talk about Dennis. I actually I was gonna bring this up and I kind of understood where she was coming from because she just had she had just walked over there and Luann kind of like barked at her. Yeah, and so like I could see what it would be intimidating for her to let go over there. But the same time I don't think Bethenny would have liked I don't want your apology or whatever like I don't it wouldn't have been something. Nasty, but I do understand why she was a little bit intimidated by the situation. I think if maybe Bethany was like standing off on her own or like with another group of friends. Like she would have felt a little bit more comfortable doing so but I think she was nervous and that in that in that situation, but as Bethany was over there in that section with with Tinsley and Luann she started talking about a man that has like kind of come back into her life. I have never grieved someone. That I was dating in a relationship. So I don't know but what did you do? You feel like it's too soon. I mean Dennis passed away in late. May I don't think there are any rules and I got anybody can pass any judgment not saying you are. Yeah, I don't think we have any any right to speak on that because we don't know what it's like. Yeah, so I don't I think whatever whatever she's doing and whatever she feels is best for her and her in her situation. And yeah, like I can't I can't speak on that know for sure and I just think like I feel like Bethenny's a very smart woman. Woman and she wouldn't do something if she wasn't ready for it. And so like hearing it like hearing her talk about going on a date. Like I was like that's fell so fast, but then at the same time, it's like I feel like she's very self aware. Yeah. She said she's bringing it to the table or later. She's like I'm you know, I'm this is the situation I'm currently in if you want to date me, that's fine. But I'm still grieving. She's not trying to you know, oh, well, whatever. She's feeling her feelings. Yeah, so the party's going on. Everyone seems to be Having a good time and then we hear someone's alarm going off. Yeah, Sonya set an alarm for for yes to leave. I have you ever like gone to a party with like your phone set like I'm going to matter for a certain amount of time after never but you always learn something from these ladies. I thought was Tinsley it to I didn't honestly I do this. She was about tensley was one of the most Tinsley it was her alarms positive because it was last week we were talking about this and I remember now that you say that was Tinsley to had it Ramona set her. Ramona asked Tinsley to put the alarm on so they knew until leave and that's horseshit and I won't take your thunder you can talk about what they do before they leave. I mean just so rude so they still some lobsters just a few just a few lobsters whole lobsters and I'm a lobster tail but the full Lobster I understand like Barb was pretty clear like you take something home for dinner and I like I feel bad she's not here. Yeah, so I understand them doing that but to go to someone's party and take the food home and not Eat at the party like I just felt like that was so tacky. I mean, I think it's like like Bethenny said likes it there. There are moments. She had to leave they had to go back and Cedar in De there are some items you can take because you aren't able to eat at the party. I'm Italians my mom gives everybody food before they leave no matter what the painters in containers of food because she overcooks anyway, so I'm used to making sure everybody has food on the way out but lobsters are different. They're very expensive and less she had a large amount of them. I think a few Also, I understand like what if those were the lobsters that they were going to eat there. It's like wow, I think wanted to enjoy them but they had to leave. I totally understand it. Then I'm leaving to go home to Rhonda. I'm like kind of showing they're like, yeah, I'm loyal to her but like want to sneak in the bag. Yeah, totally eat it there eat your meal there and then take the booty back home and it's just like I tend to leave poor thing. Looks like Luann like kind of barked at her like you could see her like Yeah, this isn't my idea. Yeah, like I feel rude. Yeah Southern Miss is that the contest this is not a list of things to do to Countess like not all yeah. I totally thought was super unnecessary, but comedic all at the same time totally. Yeah. I loved it. I'm so the woman did Scurry home and get back to the rinda who actually was hoping they were out a little bit longer because she want to watch some Law and Order. 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Also, make sure you follow us you never miss an episode of AfterBuzz TV, but we still see Lou order in distill hurting over Luann's comments the comments that she's made in the tabloids and like I think that's directly the heart of dorinda's issue. Is that like she hates when people attack her when it comes to drinking. Yep, even though I do think she has a questionable Behavior. when she does drink, but she she still is hurting over and I just don't see her letting it go at all and and vice versa with Luann like they're just like so stubborn and so stuck in their ways and I don't think they have I think I think Bethany is a good person in the middle because I think she cares for them both equally but I think everyone else around them is kind of like helping it stay divisive if that makes Any sense, what are your thoughts about about them potentially coming back together? I don't think anybody's my opinion. I think I was being divisive. I think that Barbara is trying to mend the situation but I think that darina won't have it because karynda likes to control the situation without having other people come in and speak on her behalf or speak on Luann's we have she wants to have and I think she has every right to want to have it between the two of them. I think when people people get involved even with the best intentions becomes sticky situation, especially when that person is friends with both of them. Yeah. So in this case, I think that no matter what to rinda and she even said it doesn't feel like she necessarily needs to apologize. She thinks she needs to I don't know the exact quote but just be be me just be me and go move forward and not go backwards. Exactly. It looks like they're going to just wants to like pretend none of this has happened and You too, if you did the Giovanni that yeah, I mean, it's funny though. I mean, it's it's made it's cold totally. Yeah, absolutely. So I think that with the Giovanni situation, she that's the moment that she said she don't wanna go backwards and bomber brought that up the heckling and I know now, I mean spoiler alert, but I know now that they are they are closed again. I think I read it today. I forget which article but they're they're working on it and they're clear again and I mean we saw that coming anyway, but it's interesting to see them in this stage. And I wonder if when they're watching it it brings up any old feelings. Yeah things and just an aggravations just about I don't know the what they did and whether or not they are actually apologetic about it because I think there's a part of her into that when she watches herself. She does feel a little sorry about whatever she'd said or did I think they all do yeah. I'm totally sure that they do but Do I think what I was trying to say is and you hit it, like right right on was yeah when two people get involved no matter if they have good intentions or not. Like it just it puts too much pressure on the situation and like it doesn't really the end result that everyone wants. It doesn't really end up happening. So I kind of feel like that's a situation with these girls as it's just like everyone has an opinion and they it's a good like positive but like it's not it's not serving that purpose I guess right and so they're back at the house or having a good time. They're talking about this party that the window was invited to and somehow it kind of got lost on me how Dennis got brought up and but Ramona made a really tacky comment and I really like not tasteful comment about Dennis saying how smart can he be if you know he was on drugs, so I can't I'm blanking on how know I might even came up. I think it just came. Open the top. They were just talking about the day and they were talking about Beth and not apologizing to Bethany young person and then Ramona said that but you can see in that moment Ramona knew she had she had gone way too far. And I mean, like I said before she did apologize for this and she feels horrible that she said it she was drinking. That's no excuse. I think it was Sonia who said even when you drink it shouldn't bring you to that level. Yeah something of that nature. She said believe it was her. Yeah. It was okay. So it's sad because you Lies when you're on TV and you're drinking and we know we all have done something or said something that we wish we didn't but because it's just so comfortable when you have a drink you're just like oh, yeah, but in this case even at her power level Ramona is an OG of all the I mean not just New York. She's the OG like one of them. She's up there with video on the founding and mother is she doesn't have the power to go back and say to the to the production team. Hey look, can we Take this out. Yeah. Nobody does I don't think yeah and it's scary because I can only imagine what went through her mind after that and whether or not she got people involved to try to erase that and added that out. But if they did that they it's obvious that that to do with everybody. Yeah. That's a that's a that's going to be hard to come back there. It really really will be and I can only imagine how Bethenny feels watching it, but she she she did to her credit little credit try to backtrack. On it and you know, I don't I want to honor him or whatever you could tell she was she was drunk but like Sonia said there's no excuse for something like so nasty to say about someone that has passed and it's specifically about someone and and that's what like when you asked like do you think she has good intentions? Like I think she genuinely cares about Bethany and her well-being but she says stupid stuff like that that puts it into question, you know, absolutely so so yeah, I think I think the comment will come back to bite him. A little bit later later on in the season and definitely 3 Union when everyone gets to see see back and Bethany get to see it again. But yeah, and that's kind of how that night ended and the Hamptons the weekend at the Hamptons was was over. Mmm-hmm. Yes. Yes. So, how do you want to share something with yes? Yes. All right. So guys before we move on to the next topic. We just want to say thank you for making us the PN of t v talk and for us to continue to grow we can definitely use your help and you guys have always been great about this. I've been here many years and I have seen unbelievable the same people have traveled throughout all of these shows and commented and liked and subscribed and we are so thankful. 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So thank you for listening to that and we are going to get back to the New York Housewives. Recap. Yeah. Well, thank you for sharing that and I definitely second at yeah, it is a great place and you have a log good bonds here and stuff absolutely all the support counts and matters to us and love love hearing you guys in the child also. So yeah, but back to that size and we're back in our kind of reactivating to the city life after being in the Hamptons for a little while. Yeah, we're getting back into the swing of things. We and and speaking of swing of things Lillian actually dancing to we got her in the cab racing. Yeah and get to that but it had to say it was leaning back into it dancing back into and she's talking about water. Yes water actually has two homes on the water. She's got her new apartment in the city. And then she also has her house Upstate which I'm a little bit confused about because I thought that was the issue with the lawsuit with her children. I don't think that I Fully went through. Okay, that was something that they were talking about but I don't think they actually ever ended up suing and I don't want to put my phone on but if you want to check it out just to double check but I don't think they ever ended up suing but if you guys want to comment and let us know love to know I almost positive that this became something bigger due to the media. Yeah actually ended up being resolved. My understanding was that she was trying to sell their Hamptons home so that she could buy this Upstate home and that it didn't go through. Through the there was no actual lawsuit. So I so maybe she found another way to buy the home Upstate or whatever. I got some very classic Countess Vibes and her discussion about her homes. I was like, okay like as much as I love seeing you riding on a floating on the flute with your clothes on and being this new Luann that's embracing being like totally like human and just like every other Average Joe. We got that moment of or not. I'm in the home like oh, she's still there a little bit. Yes, the very the very Lively and and crazy Luann. I'm very much. Okay. I know you're a hero Luann fan. I'm an everyone. Yeah. Okay. I yeah, so I know Leah is writer die Luann and I believe Ronnie also feels this way. I am not so close to Louisiana of as close of a relationship to win as the others do hi. Um, I find her to be like, I think she's great television. Vision I think she's hilarious but I just like it's still so pretentious to me. I'm like, I'm noxious and a bit like her talking about the Cabaret and like the hon. It's just going to get a boat to know this like other stuff. I'm just like I can't with you. I don't know maybe it maybe I'm just way too cheap to run de or I don't know what it is. I don't know. I've honestly I've been lucky enough to have interviewed all of them at this point for AfterBuzz several times and Luann was one of the few I got to interview in person and I will say she was awesome. Yeah like it so I can only go by I want to see on TV and then that small moment of having an interview which who knows if someone's being completely authentic in an interview setting but she was awesome. Yeah, I was funny and she was a promoter and Dorinda in the three of them together. I was just like I feel like I'm one of the girls really I didn't get any conscious Vibes - okay, let's put this two years ago. So I don't know because I do feel like this. I don't know. I have an uneasy feeling about Luann but I do feel like she is someone that is like very easy to talk to. To like especially in a media space because I think she knows the game. Like I think she understands understands how she needs to look and portray herself. I hear ya. But yeah, I just I don't know and then we jump to Bethenny who's actually in North Carolina. She's continuing her be strong Foundation. Yes woman is amazing. She really was it was very it was very touching. She gets back to North Carolina. I believe is Hurricane Harvey and to help help the shelter and help to Aid their it wasn't as bad as a hurricane as it was predicted to be Still a lot of work to be done. So we actually got to see her more so she was and she also can explain. How is a lot more controlled area as opposed to Puerto Rico and like other places that she's been too. So she did get to go to these shelters more and like, you know hand out these gift cards and whatnot. And can we give a shout out to Michael? Yes, Michael who's been 90 times to Haiti Michael who's dedicated his life to these types of causes. Yeah. He has been I mean, I don't even know anything. Thing about him other than what she said tonight and I literally was I was in good. I was just Goosebumps. Yeah, that's imagine living a life like that. You can dedicate every part of your being to helping others. It was really touching and I also touching it. He wasn't the guy that durendal was arguing with go out there right now. I don't think that was the same guy. Okay? Okay don't but I if you guys know I know there's a lot of diehards listening right now that are like, oh no, I know his first last name and know you're tough. Let us know but I don't think that way I wasn't sure but like Was the first thing when she said Haiti because I remember that was the funniest like yeah. Yeah, totally eyelash. I love her. But yeah, that was not one of her best moment. So then we have Beth. Yeah, we have are going around to the shelters and it seemed like a very therapeutic trip for her and she's studying. I'm not going to cry today because about Dennis because people are crying. Oh, you're not having a hold of you. I know it was puts life into perspective. It really does. It really does it does but I mean, it's so like it's it just still battling a loss though is still just as hard as what these people are going through as well. And then we're back in the city with the window and she invites Barber to have lunch. No, she had an issue with Barbara because she Uninvited her to to her Clambake and felt like she was getting in the middle of this feud between her and Luann, right and we kind of see and I kind of understand where dorinda's coming from because she's you know last year this time bar. Was on the outs with Luann and during the claims like she didn't really get in the middle of it. She didn't try to fiddle with it and she kind of just like Let It Be and so did see that flash. But yeah, yeah for anybody that doesn't know that was a flashback to that it was there when they were on the boat. Yeah. Yeah, they were on the boat and we over here Barbara saying that Luann would rather marry and get a divorce versus calling off the wedding. Yeah, so examine to insert that into your statement. Yeah. So we see that Luann and Barbara did have a kind of rocky relationship. Not even that long ago. I know. So crazy, it's so crazy and to know that she was on the people that helped her get healthy and stuff like that. Like yeah, so it doesn't show that they actually do have a true friendship and genuine friendship that they could drop whatever is going on between Holly to like take care of one another which is cool. But the Run does point was like I didn't bother you with that. So please like but out and like let duranta or Luann and I kind of deal with it. I I see where she's coming from. I just feel like the wind is just such a very direct person that it does bother her to have. Like so many people like somebody opinion so many chefs in the kitchen, you know, yep, but I also what kind of I listen to the podcast last week. What are your thoughts on Barbara? I'm a little bit confused of her placing on the cast because I feel like they're almost treating her like a full-blown housewife but not at the same time. I always think they're testing. Yeah. I always think they're testing and I think that in this situation, she's been she's definitely Been an asset. I mean without her none of this would have occurred but I don't see her long-term. I don't I just think that after this situation is resolved. I mean she's funny but I don't go after the situation is resolved. They won't necessarily need her because they already have so many people like you said to cook they have so many cooks in the kitchen and so many personalities and they're not lacking anywhere some of these some of these Housewives franchise is now they're lacking in so many ways and they have the oh, geez just like holding everybody up. And in this case, everybody's know Jimmy except tensley, but Tinsley, I like Tinsley, I want to see more of her to see if I could live without tensley out of all them obviously. Yeah, but yeah, and I think like I know that I don't want to be Barbers like stirring the pot or anything but she is the one that is kind of keeping this a little bit more like going but I do actually agree with the window with her saying that she doesn't think that she's really Luann's trigger with her being disinvited like I Stand like she's a little bit in stable because of her, you know, just going to rehab and like getting back into the swing of things and whatnot. But I do kind of feel like it's unfair to labeled arenda like someone that could trigger her when like her alcohol like alcoholism wasn't related to Dorinda directly and it kind of made me wonder is when we on using her sobriety as an excuse to kind of like acts to run to out until I get her Uninvited from the group and stuff like that. I don't I don't think so. I think that another this is another situation. That it's hard for me to speak on because I've never had to go to rehab or sober. So I don't understand how the triggering works how it plays out and I just know that if I had to protect myself that I would no matter what it what no matter what it meant. So if somebody did put me in a position where not put me but if someone if someone's presence made me feel more vulnerable to alcohol or whatever it is. I would certainly stay away. Yeah, especially if they weren't willing to talk to me, that's fair and I think and I do Renda is willing to talk to her. But I think that this I don't think she's coming into the situation apologetic enough for that Luann feels she could put her her guard down and be comfortable around everybody. I also think this was probably put into Luann's ear in a lot of ways because she has so many girlfriends around her. Yeah. I don't know if Luann would protect herself this much if it weren't for her rally of girl bosses just like protecting. I agree, I agree and Yeah, I think I think you make a really good point. I just yeah, I want to see them get back together. But I just they're just so stubborn and set in their ways. It's hard to watch. It's similar to the whole Bethany and Carol thing last season, but like not at this like I don't this this feels more real, you know, like Carol and Bethany they had a real friendship, but this because land and during have known each other for so much this like so long like this feels a lot more like heartfelt. I don't know. But then we get Sonya paper magazine looking stunning thing. Right? I love the bone straight hair her dress. Yeah, gorgeous and Shores coming gorgeous. She looked amazing, like kind of like a different person almost and the party looked the atmosphere. The party also is very cool. I loved it. It was beautiful. It was very beautiful. So Sonia is did she get the cover was she featured? I think she got the cover, but I don't know beautiful cover. There are beautiful feature which ever and it was. Yeah. It was a very cool part of the ladies are coming in duranta asked ahead of time. If she could also wear leopard I kind of think you just let the host like be the shining star and I like twinsies but to each his own but so Tinsley shows up with her mom we get Dale back for the episode. Yes. I do. Enjoy Dale. I'm not the biggest Inslee fan, but I do love her mother and Sonia psychic tell. Tensley she has to she's gonna have two children. Maybe those little eggs that she has frozen going to hatch one day. I like you said I am looking forward to seeing what Tinsley has this season. I feel like maybe this might be her breakthrough season when we get a lot more from her. I like more of a deeper level because I felt like the Scott stuff is just a lot of fluff. So I'm hoping like I don't really want to a children's story line again the family like I really want to get to know Tinsley on like a way deeper level than what we've been given. And so so yeah, so I enjoy her but I think she's just more of a filler filler housewife at this at this time. But yeah, and then deronda Bethany kind of had a really nice moment together. I really enjoyed them talking. I feel like out of anyone durandal would be the one to really relate to what Bethenny's going through. I felt like them speaking was a very very touching moment. What we it reminded me a lot of when they were in London. I think it was London. Couple Seasons back was Carol and Dorinda having that moment talking about their having Bulldogs lost their husbands. And that was the moment that they both bonded for the first time and I felt like this was that moment for Bethany and Orinda. Mmm, and I do wonder if this will bring or if it has brought Carol and Bethany at all close to see behind the scenes because Carol's been there in Carol's written about it. And that's I mean Carol has Been involved in Bethany's life for a long time and did know Dennis and I wonder if the two of them have had any conversations about this or Carrollwood reached out and offered any support. I don't know. I was very curious about that too. And I was you know, I was hoping just seen something but I feel like yeah, they wouldn't and neither one of them would say if it were not and then it broke my heart when this like this made me really I this is when I started to cry when when Bethenny Dennis also got Bryn a ring, too. Yes, it's just so sweet. But it's so sad at the same time and it's just like how it's hard. It's very hard. It's very heavy and it's but we see Bethenny just like kind of pushing through and that was kind of the message that to render like let on to is like you're very strong woman and you could get through this it makes me wonder because I saw last we all saw last week that Brynn had been texting Dennis after he had passed and so had Bethany and I wondered I know we don't get to see Brian obviously for many reasons, I think most of them are legal but we don't get to see Brett we see always even in her stories just like the side of her face or whatever so we don't really I don't know what the relationship between Dennison brain was like, but I can imagine it was a very beautiful father-daughter Bond like relationship, especially for him to do that and he seemed like a teddy bear and for Brynn to be asking about the me like do you think My tags, like they were definitely close and they did that painted a little bit of a picture for me. And I don't know if it did for you guys to that. They had a special bond. It was really sweet. And it was yeah that that moment was really tough. But all the women are finally at the party except for the land she walks in last and her very sophisticated white outfit nice hat her date very nice very Sleek. She comes in and you kind of the run to kind of gets immediately. A little on edge they're completely on opposites opposite rooms are opposite sides of the room of Luann's with everybody and dorinda's kind of sitting at the bar and I thought lumens comment was like a course you'd be at the bar because she know I wouldn't go over there like yes, and also Ramona and dorinda's relationship. Excuse me, Ramona and Luann. Yeah. That was awkward. Yeah, you have Ramona not wanting to be all fake at that moment and you have Luann overcome. And seating for everything and complimenting and you see the two of them. Just trying to be nice and trying to be civil but their versions of that are so so polar opposite and they just don't you just you know, it's forced total. Yeah, you know, they barely spoke. Yeah, but yeah, so we finally have the time when which Demand only winner in the same space and and I was building to it. I was very very excited for other. They're finally going to speak and and Bethany kind of will Before Bethany kind of brings them and over during a barks at Barbara for saying please don't get involved like this. Isn't you have no was it skin in this fight or fight whatever and and robbers like why are you getting mad at me when Beth is doing the exact same thing I'm doing and I don't understand why either but maybe it's because I don't know. Well Bethenny didn't do the exact thing. Bethany was more she was saying like, I just think that Darren doesn't want any unsolicited advice right now. She's trying to kind of explain yeah order. That and in that moment during the didn't say anything but we do see later on that directed does speak up to Bethany and is like Bethenny stop pushing me to go somewhere in which you'll get to so, I don't think she's afraid of Bethenny. I think from an outside perspective. I think in Barbara's situation. She was like, what do you mean? I don't yeah. Why why are you saying this to me and I are but we all know that everybody's a little bit afraid of back of the head and she's scares. Me too. She's just always right. Yeah, she didn't she always just she speaks so eloquently and everything. She says is just it's like she is thought it out for like days written it out before she said it so everybody else like whoa. Yeah. She's the best. But yeah, so so Bethany calls calls Luann overly on kind of me like we're like what and she finally comes over and Bethenny does give tours end of the push and you see like the road is barking at Bethany. No. No, I'm not ready. I'm not Not ready yet. Like I shall call you better get ready because she's like five feet behind you. Yes, and then we get the nice turn. It looks like very very nice and warm and then we get the to be continued. Yes, which like totally frustrated because I thought we had so much more left in the episode, but we obviously didn't I guess we could just go ahead and jump into prediction since we have have this to go off of we have news to I don't want to let's let's do prediction. Yeah, let's do it is really quickly. After Michael first, yes, so guys Bethany speaking of a girl Bethany kind of got a little and a little bit of trouble this previous week. And if you heard the news TMZ reported that Paris Jackson attempted suicide and had to be taken to the hospital Paris Jackson denied all of that and then however Bethany chimed in on Twitter and has since deleted Saying I'm so upset about Paris Jackson Who allegedly attempted suicide. We are the product of our parents unresolved issues. She is a very loving person who helps those in need without looking for praise. My heart is with her. I was I want I want to take her I want to take her sadness away as if she was my daughter. So it was somewhat of a nice message that she was, you know, giving to Paris but Paris replied lies lies lies OMG more lies because she didn't attempt suicide or she wasn't hospitalized for this incident Bethany deleted the Tweet, but she also insinuate something about the relationship saying well something is a mess. I will not explain how I know her because that would betray confidence. But something is off here that I can assure you so as a little bit ambiguous and I'm not really sure now I'm even more curious about how they know one another and why would be some type of betrayal of you know confidence. Yes. Um, very interested. Yeah, it's very interesting. So she got in a little bit of hot water but and but she has some good stuff going on also amazing stuff. Yes. So so MGM television in Mark Burnett have made a multi-year deal with Bethenny Frankel to generate unscripted TV projects though. He will produce some of which will be star vehicles for her. So she's probably going to be packaging non-scripted shows and packaging them for MGM gmtv. I don't know if this means that she's gonna be on any of them. I believe that they're going to use her to bring in the celebrities bring in the talent and come up with ideas because she's a mega just she's just a genius that's office is this makes total sense to me? I think this is awesome. And I think she's gonna kill it as a producer this so MGM worldwide the chairman made the deal directly with Bethenny, so they obviously know each other. Yeah and and her attorneys. Oh, we lost our music Frankel turned herself. She's turned herself into this on. Cryptid Megastar herself. So I think she's going to be an amazing producer. Oh, that's awesome. Yeah. I love it. I know we 47 seconds left predictions. Yeah, let's jump in real quick to our predictions AfterBuzz TV prediction. Um, I think you know durandal and we'll have a cordial conversation at sonja's party and deeper into it. They'll be having my lunch with Bethenny. Yeah, so don't think it's going to go anywhere. I still think no, I think this is going to be a slow burn for like the season. Okay? Yeah. I don't see it going anywhere I need Time soon. All right. Well, that's sad and on a lighter note. We Sonja gets to make out with another girl. So that's a very intriguing next week. And we see Tinsley talking about topper her ex-husband's wife's shoe line. So I didn't even know that she had a shoe line and something some drama there. So we've got some fun stuff at Tinsley. Yeah. Yeah, we do guys. Thanks so much for joining us this week next week. We'll have a full panel. Yes. It'll be so fun. We'd love to hang out with you guys and I'm Chelsea Stark Jones. 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 The ladies wrap up their stay in the Hampton’s with a little bit of controversy. Bethenny is still battling over losing Dennis, and reveals a secret about their relationship. And we finally get Dorrinda and LuAnn in the same place while at Sonjia’s Paper Magazine party. Chelsea Stark-Jones and Ashley Daniels break down this week’s episode of Real Housewives of New York! ABOUT THE REAL HOUSEWIVES OF NYC AFTER SHOW: To a certain group of people in New York, status is everything...and with status comes plenty of drama to unpack on THE REAL HOUSEWIVES OF NEW YORK CITY AFTER SHOW. We’ll recap all the buzz-worthy moments from the show, from the fabulous to the fights from our favorite Big Apple ladies. Tune in here for ALL the tea as we review, recap and provide in-depth discussions of the latest episodes! Who knows! You might just see some familiar cast member faces. ABOUT REAL HOUSEWIVES OF NYC: The Real Housewives of New York City (abbreviated RHONY) is an American reality television series that premiered on March 4, 2008 on Bravo. Developed as the second installment of The Real Housewives franchise, following The Real Housewives of Orange County, it has aired seven seasons and focuses on the personal and professional lives of several women residing in New York City. The series originally focused on LuAnn de Lesseps, Bethenny Frankel, Alex McCord, Ramona Singer, and Jill Zarin. The eighth season lineup of housewives will consist of de Lesseps, Frankel, Singer, Sonja Morgan, Carole Radziwill, Dorinda Medley, and newcomer Jules Wainstein. Of the original housewives, Frankel initially left after the third season before returning for the seventh; McCord and Zarin left after the fourth season; and de Lesseps was a friend of the housewives in the sixth. The remaining housewives joined in later seasons: Morgan in the third, Radziwill in the fifth, Medley in the seventh, and Wainstein in the eighth. Other housewives include Kelly Killoren Bensimon (seasons 2–4), Cindy Barshop (season 4), Aviva Drescher (seasons 5–6), Heather Thomson (seasons 5–7), and Kristen Taekman (seasons 6–7). 