Hi, I'm Tony riddle. And this is the natural lifestyle is podcast. So way back in December. I had this crazy idea that I was going to run 900 miles from Land's End to John o'groats in 30 days, but not just that I was going to do it Barefoot and yet that would raise socially extreme eyebrows, but it also would raise funds. So with that socially extreme eyebrow right created a platform. Gave me an opportunity to raise awareness and funds for environmental Charities and collaborate with leading experts to raise awareness and money for six organizations fighting the top sustainability issues of our time. I knew of course that running Barefoot would raise those eyebrows. And with those eyebrows, I'll be able to provide a platform of perfect platform to highlight the importance of connecting with our environment and those all important key sustainability. Sleep issues of our time. So I had the pleasure of getting behind the mic my well-being sister the one and only Jasmine Hemsley. Jasmine is a three-time best-selling author founder of Hensley and Hemsley and these by West a TV presenter of a show broadcast in over 25 countries, Chef Food and Health writer restauranteur and nutrition and wellness expert Jasmine believes that small All key changes everyday lives and create a profound positive impact even in a hectic Modern World Health well-being and happiness are well within reach she encourages people to take their health into their own hands even great nutrition mindfulness and balance has tools to build strong healthy and vital body and we discuss exactly that the conversation flows. And we discuss everything well being from doshas to digestion sustainable humans to sustainable fashion. Jasmine has a real beautiful soul and to put it more simply just wants to help us all be more human. I hope you enjoy the conversation. Like I'm here with the lovely Jasmine Helmsley handsy handsy. Why do you keep saying I'm here with the lovely Jasmine Hensley. That's right. If I keep getting it wrong. I must have been getting that wrong the year. So, you know when I started out on this map this idea of embarking on this huge Journey. Not like that the 30-day challenge you want the first name that popped up because it's been great witnessing kind of the evolution of Jasmine's I first met you I think on a fever Barefoot shoe There Was You - we were going through teca's I know how you should stand. Yes for the perfect shot at running pose. So it just sits perfectly aligned with today on as I've just been finding that perfect pose for 20 miles for getting here. How did you just see me walking up the road you would never guess. But anyway back to that and then you remodeling right? And now you think of now you've moved right into what would be kind of one of those being voice of in sustainable fashion. I would say, okay. Yeah. Yeah, which has been great. I've loved watching that. So let's talk a little bit around that Journey what happened? What happened from that moment with the Little Bear for? A bit of modeling to the rise of I'm not going to say Wellness Guru because like you probably hate very like I do. I just don't like being labeled as that. So Wellness well-being external, isn't it? Yeah. Very good. Very good. When chosen? Yeah. It was really nice. I'm kind of jealous of your you'll be dead. You'll be chin resting this great it is I do it so that because I'm way to get there. So it's really annoys people to plaster it to my chin. It'll be jealous of a Jasmine. I don't think know I look a bit weird Wishful. Yeah. Well same will that be how do I get here? I guess I just began to not open just my eyes, but my other senses to the World Around Me bit more and also turning a bit more. So I just became a bit more aware of my actions and of my inner world, but this has all happened on a very very very slow snail pace. It's in many ways way because I didn't have an epiphany or I didn't have a didn't say anything about business plan fact. I kind of fall into a lot of things I do and it's only in retrospect. I realized that I had at one point kind of manifested or decided that this is an area that I saw myself in. Yeah, it's not like it's a complete rudderless ship. No no. No, you might think that would be watch me my today be my day to day but I'm a bit all over the place, but you know, we're not but I do get quite It's and I do Daydream. I do see myself not really knowing what my job is or calling it a particular action or title. It's more kind of feel where I want to be existing and and I think you know, I don't have that much to report from my teens and my childhood but you know, there are times when you feel a little bit like you don't really know. What's It's going on. It's all kind of happening and it's and and I would say anxiety was quite present or at least you know, I'm sorry mum dad. I was worried was part of my employees. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah always trying to think about was trying to think ahead always trying to you know, I live in the London memories. I guess. It's just that there's not much now in the future. There's not and now I realize you know, it's not something that I have to keep reminding myself that it's that gap between the memories of what's just happened our or days gone by and the unknown of the future and it's that Gap. That is the real place where I'm at. And how do I enjoy that Gap? How do I enjoy what I've got now or maybe not even enjoy it. How do I just experience it? And it really just started off I guess from wanting to eat better or really really kind of understanding that my mother's food made me feel great. And then there's this there's this idea of what healthy food was back in the time when I decided that my mom's food was what was making me feel great. So let's say the late 90s and suddenly Eatery started popping up and something I started earning money and I would go out and you know, Start to eat a different places and I kind of realize that food didn't make me feel nourish. And then I thought is it just Filipino food. My mom's Filipino. My dad's English. So I kind of realized earlier on I like I like work dinners and I also have a taste for green food and I was lucky that my mom put a little greens and my food growing up. So I like that bitter astringent taste but I also loved all males. I loved I loved culture. I loved trying different dishes, but I watch TV and watched chefs, you know, go around. And the world cooking things and you know, I didn't have access to any restaurants. The only way to to taste that flavor was to cook it myself. So I began to cook and then I enter the world of modeling and that's where you realize, you know, you start getting on the old got to be healthy got to be healthy and yeah back then it was about calories. It was about low-fat. It was about nothing definitely not wet food is about almost food being separated on your plate and suddenly looking at it in this kind of Teen fats and carbohydrates kind of way. Yeah dividing the play side of the plate. Yeah and first hand thumb. Yes, and then looking at the back of packets. Yeah kind of understanding things and I thought gosh, I just I just love my mom's stews a come out of the pot. That's what makes me feel really good. And so it's complicated. Yeah, that's complicated lots of comfort and the more I started to research into healthy eating and you know, and all these words came up vegan vegetarian paleo raw food different velocities are ayurveda kept coming up. So from my early twenties this philosophy of ayurveda, which only really started to talk about in a big way in the last couple of years has just been there. I didn't ya because I thought was quite recent. I wasn't sure what my relationship with ayurveda was really because I was implementing it bit by bit but it was so vast. It was such a different language to the one I was used to talking, you know, it's very, you know, Eastern philosophies are this holistic way of looking at life. I've been brought up. Very linear X Plus y equals Ed and so there's a lot to take on and luckily. My world around me change the same time and made that transition a lot easier. So, you know when I first came across it never heard her Mantra a chakra on any of those kind of ideas, but as I got more into it, I started to hear it there sit there sit there sit there here at there and all became a little bit more familiar know you don't know, you know to get behind the mic and pull out the tuning pool Dimension import session. Amazing. So I you know, if I'd seen that 20 years ago, I don't think I necessarily been swept up in it, but my journey has been steady and slow and so I've integrated what's made sense to me at the time and it's become a part of who I am today. And so a lot of well, I evaded and functional medicine. I was very interested in functional medicine went into the philosophy behind him is in Hemsley, and it's really it's a tried and tested stuff that I was doing on myself. And then as time has gone on and I've watched the functional medicine world really keep coming back. So I Aveda I've realized if I Aveda is the manual of nature the manual for life. It's directly translates as the science of life or the knowledge of life then is that not where we're headed? Is that not the big picture? Yeah, because I've always known the more I go down that path from the more investigate because I hope things that rewilding isn't it? Mmm and it's as if that's what it's in. Accents in a way Is a time I guess when it was dealing with the ills of what was becoming a civilization and farming and then returning people back to what would be that holistic balance again, which is introducing them to a natural way of living a yes. Yes that right. Absolutely. So so so I'm Ada is it's really understanding that you are nature and you are off nature. So there is you know to be able to kind of take a human say this is exactly what you should be eating doing thinking and saying, you know We are constantly evolving. We are in the only constant is change and rather than that making things more complicated at that. It's actually a much more simple and romantic way to look at life. You know that you are always changing. So stop holding on to everything go with the flow find your flow be flexible be water off a duck's back and remove the control move the control and the someone who had a lot of worry growing up control was I didn't know that. I was well holding on to that when I look back now. Realize, you know, I would I'd really beat myself up if I went over my credit card limit is an inherited mechanism. Absolutely absolutely and funny enough meeting Nick 16 years ago. You never beat himself up anything. I thought you going to say ramp things up things up and I was thinking gosh. He's so irresponsible. Yeah, and the more I look the more I thought you know, as long as he kind of learns and acknowledges and you know reflects a little bit. He's actually got it, right. Why am I beat myself up for something that's already quite painful, you know, so, I mean that the bank balance is a weird one. So kind of bring up as an example, but as an example of the kind of things, Spend your life worrying about rather than just go. You know what I've observed that. I've noticed I do that. Let's see if I can you know, it just a little for the next time and you know, see that bill coming or you know that type of thing. Yeah. Well then just leaving the fear of it. Yeah. Why did you do that kind because I have to say getting fined 25 quid or whatever. It was like then you're going a pound over your overdraft when you're a student, you know, and you are literally making a meal for a pound you could have got out for a slap-up dinner. That was a kind of chitchat that weren't used to go through. My head wow, and now I just think easy come easy goes, you know, I work easy for my money, you know, take a deep breath in take a deep breath out at go all those kind of, you know cliches that you start hearing in in and around Arsenal, you know written up on in cool trendy cafes. They're all there to help. They're all the little kind of nudge discuss your human being not a human doing. Well. It's like the, you know, if saying about that guy that came out to meet me on the run yesterday, you know, and he said he was in just a really dark space and Just breathing meditation and the simple things it's all for free. Yeah meditation breathwork cold bar simple stuff like that. It's managed to rescue him, you know, and he found you on social on social media with Technologies is the really good. I think let's talk about is because a lot a lot of people, you know who might going to rewilding Journey or a fact that you know, I have a as being read picked up traditional Chinese medicine they might Start shunning all technology, you know trying to hold on to the Past trying to be a drama queen exactly because that's where it was good or that's you know, they've romanticized, you know the old ways but you know times are always changing and we have technology is just about being aware of what the right amount of technology is for you at that moment. And what's in this conversation what sustainable and what sustainable so I'm loving watching the stories I start to do some stories today really really enjoyed it, but I can't do that. Everyday, it uses up too much of my energy my resources or as I grow that stuff. Yeah interest you are you know, that's how you speak to your community, you know, they feed back to you and they're getting to watch your journey something, you know, pretty terrific but you're doing right now and yeah, it's fueling you if you like because you know that you know, you're as I said on my social media post to you are leading by example, you're getting out there and doing what sounds completely impossible. Oil and I've had a look at your feet five days in and they were right not bleeding sums, which was a tissue to wipe the seed from the side of my mouth I guess is right. I had a lovely lady come out and meet me. Would you lend some ion? Instagram and she is from Taunton and she knew I was here and she just said to me as a he's a you know, a therapist herself. She said thats my book has helped her greatly to to keep you know, how energy going at a hundred percent so that she can carry on what she's doing beyond that wasn't it? My lady had a stroke right digestion was out is completely healed her digestion and as symptoms are just she's on the path to recovery. I that's Judy transformative. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I Aveda is. It's the balance that the delicate balance between mind body and spirit and it's not that you want to stay on that pivot and be absolutely rigid structured and controlled said it's a we've got to have some movement otherwise last night interesting so you can pivot this way pivot that way and smoothly keep coming back couple. Going up and down recover quickly. That's what you know by by keeping near the balance near the pivot point. You can recover quickly. That's a strange noise sure. It should be clarify what that is. Oh, yes. We're in wearing this amazing space. Is there a waste or less a litter? That's a little less of it and at lesser later on Instagram broken the follow and their refilling jars at the moment. No, John and his look, yeah. She's got a front and she's filling up a little cloth bag of coffee. So it sounds like someone's having a pee. I thought it was a tricky one. Okay. All right, we might that be okay. So when we talk about balance, so I met your guy. What's his name? Dr. Matthew? Yes. She told Matthew. Yeah, because up until that point. I always looked at digestion or looked at cellular stuff. And it was such a it was a different approach because it was now under saying my dough. Sure. Mmm, you know, yeah, I've been saying it was okay because there's certain stuff that was being flagged up for me through having a stool sample microbiome test and cellular work some blood work and there were certain food groups within that system then perfectly aligned with OSHA as well, which is quite interesting. Yeah, I think and we go into though. She's a bit because I find that stuff. Like just powerful sure for sure. I mean, I you know, the Science and Technology we have our fingertips now is immense but I still believe that it's the power of the person interpreting it still putting that together and building the big picture because you know, we can measure with Incredible accuracy certain things going on in the body. But again, everything is about the balance, you know, we will have E coli nobody it kinda sounds horrendous. The right amount is yeah symbiotic relationship. Exactly. Yes on every level. Yes could be microbiome in the mouth. It could be skiing and could be got to give you anything. Right? So I feel like you you know, we need the people to interpret those results and build a picture and and I also believe that we ourselves are the best person to kind of begin to understand ourselves. And that's what life's journey I think is really what about I'm with you on that. I honestly feel that part of this process for me has been like the reboot reconnect reward. Thing I talk about is about those innate abilities and getting back to that position. We're honestly think we would have been again moving through a landscape known exactly what we needed and part of growth now is to find the people along the route to help interpret that you become more skillful. And therefore we can return to being those innate while beings and then The younger years they inherit that new information and I mean so we have to go and do the work that way. I look at Jen's he's now they're just they're just completely, you know fashion brands for any Brands just don't even know these guys the Gen Z's James. These are like the ones in their twenties are they they're completely different. And the on the camera, it sounds very cool. It sounds like that Joy Jay-Z Jay-Z gen Z so the doshas. So anyone that knows or doesn't know about the about ayurveda. They have these I have a day uses descriptions to build a picture. So our senses are very much involved in building that full picture and the doshas are really the five elements in subgroups. So in ayurveda and traditional Chinese medicine, etc, etc. They have roughly five elements they differ or they're called but for me, it's ones French ones German, you know, we just thought telling the same poem about love but in a different language, so now evader. It's ether or space. It's a nothing happens unless there is a space for it to happen. Then you have are so we can talk about the wind the air that we breathe. You could look at it the sky imagine imagine a picture. The picture itself with me the space the air you could dispose you could interpret as like even universe right? Exactly. Okay, exactly. Nothing happened as a bang and in that spirit and then you have the then you have are which we can we can look at as just the sky then you've got fire which you can think of as a son or maybe you have a fire in front of you more fire. Maybe every you know, the fire in your belly or the fire in every cell in your body. That's transforming. Oh, Austin, Austin, Then you've got water which you can think of as the see in the picture and then you've got Earth which you could think of as the ground. So when I first started hearing about the five elements and I did I did form of Wing Chun that was, you know, five elements when I was younger. I loved it when I was doing it. I didn't really think I had any relevance to my life today and it was only when I was wearing big in Croatia camping and I looked out and there was my view and it was a sunsetting and there was space. The air of the sky the water at Li the the sun setting on the water and in the earth below and I thought that's the five elements. And what I Vader is saying is we can call looking users by the elements to describe everything in and around us. So we're sitting on reclaimed reclaimed wood wood Driftwood Driftwood so we could say this is very earthy. It's really earthy. It's solid as it's big In comparison to maybe a piece of plywood which would be more so this will be made of earth and water right earth and water if we try this out a bit more it would be much more Earth Blossom of it is water. So if we then we dunk this Driftwood in back into the sea where it drifted in from it would have more water than a piece of Driftwood sitting out in the sun. So it's just comparisons. It's not pigeonholing necessarily. It's just using it to compare the qualities. And us and so what I Bader has done is put those five elements into three doshas because it's five goes into 3 is not nice and exacting as we like it. It can be a bit confusing but let's say remove the control mechanism control mechanism. So we take the first two space and are combined to form Vallarta. Mmm. So varta Sanskrit word we can call it very roughly are but it's responsible for the any movement in the body and in messaging any the nervous system the breath going An ounce so movement within the body of I use is vodka and we have bitter so Pizza is the elements of fire and water. So it's hot liquid spreading oily and then we have kapha which is the Earth Earth and water so pizza and Catfish air and water as a shared element so that they can be quite sticky and it can be sticky. Mucus e Very grounded down-to-earth. It's solid think of it as sand and water together, you know, add a bit of pitting you baked it and you've got like a vessel add some water and that vessel slowly disintegrates a way back into you know space so it's about the relationship between everything but the brilliant thing is we can use that to kind of talk about people's personalities that their mental traits their physical traits. So you're quite a bitter person I can see from the red team. Ends in your skin the red in your beard the the dirt, you know the focus that you have and yeah, everyone is saying things like paying Kade. Yeah, but it doesn't mean that you won't have lots or attribute. So when you're thinking where can I take this? What can I do with this? I've got a message to to get out there. Oh, I could start doing this and I could start I could do this wrong. I could use a pizza cutter is that Creativity stimulation, you know and that's exactly my reading. But then it's also Catherine you is of course you are try on Watch Right OSHA. So it's just your predominant exactly a dominant or a dual dominant or you could be roughly all three equally split that would be tried. Oh sik so all the elements are in us because we are everything got it. That's so I was a bit catheter back there on my heating that you know, you just you drink the bitter drained and also you need that ground in this because varta Is cold and stimulated Pizza is hot and stimulated Cafe is Cooling and calm and grounded earthing, you know, Mother Earth. So although we say here when we're looking at this wood is very careful with some with some very Earth with some water but it's also got air in space in it squat. You can so you can see there's literally spacing in between, you know, the in between the pieces Russian some bits are drier than others. It's got a lot more of that the air so it's all in us. It's just what is your dominant? Those your type so much people say to you. What's your Dosha? They mean what's your dominant brochure in the mind body? And that's generally meaning what we born as so your prakruti so much. So we are all born with a kind of genetic Constitution and wine is order pizza, but because of the work I do and I live in London a very vital environment or Ivar to put environment actually, but it's He coming into Autumn, which is a vodka season cold dry rough. So you think about tree, you know, a they called or deciduous perennial or a tree that goes through, you know, the cycles of who is from the Fresh buds in Spring to the leafy abundance in summer and then drying up in the Autumn and becoming crisp and curling up and changing color and then falling away and becoming covered in snow. No and Soggy and you know, that's very Catholic. Yeah, so that happens to all our so as we move into Autumn actually the you know science is you know research shows that it's actually very anxiety-inducing time whether you put that down to the end of summer fun the light levels dropping that back to school feeling, you know, the dark and lights moving in. You know, I evaded would read it as that plus the idea that it's a varta season and therefore Vata plays a has an effect on a nerve System and and that's why there's this Collective feeling of a little bit more. Grumpy, the best words grumpy and irritable, you know, so so really being able to combine this stuff that we're discovering through science and the ancient wisdom, which is building an even better picture, you know, so I love that the talking about ayurveda in Parliament. I love that people are people can come and read about our Vader and take one two, three things and all of them will have a massive impact because when you go with I Vader you're going With nature and in parliament's what's happening there. They just you know, if you think about the NHS is struggling, you know, it's it's a disease management system. Well, I got suit, you know, my mom had pneumonia at Christmas, you know, it's Rusty and on I think Christmas Day and she had a good few weeks and I'm still in there doing an amazing job when they're in there, but it's just the worst environment for the work environment for healing and organism and the noise is side. Really really harsh lights overly hot Windows shots and talking about sustainability. My name out waste. Yeah, it's insane. Yeah, and then and then people, you know are low energy low vibration around you. It's a place of you know, sickness as a place of sadness then obviously their new king the food. So this is food that satin storage for how long or you know come from somewhere else and then it's sitting around or it's been vacuum-packed then it's nuked. It's got no priors. No, it's not food, you know and you know the not enough Staffing it's a it's you know, my dad had cancer three times and so over 15 years, you know, we were in and out of hospital and it's it's a very difficult place to heal even though on a physical level they can do so much for you mentally and spiritually it's That was saying I voted coming in you think he's coming on. I think we were looking wider field when we're realizing that the we can't work in this way any longer and I think people are realizing through this well-being movement that's become huge that we have a responsibility to take care of ourselves and we responsibility to try and understand more about our needs to look at how people were doing things two generations ago and say what can I take from that? You know the me when I give talks They say what time do grunting Granddad eat people look under 5:30 6:00, 6:30 p.m. Yes. They did. You know, if you look at around a lot of colleges, they don't eat past Sunset or you might look at it as you know, stop eating three hours before sleep. So you can finish digesting and then go into a proper deep healing sling and for me that changed my life in my mid-twenties I'd say so I still eat about 8:30 at night. Yeah, there's lighting implications in that as well. Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah, so the light you know that we are you know, we go camping the Sun and in the darkness that follows that tells the body What's Happening Here melatonin being released being released and and so we know when we go camping if anyone has gone camping without your phones without artificial light without artificial stimulation, you know, you sit around that campfire and you start to feel ridiculously relaxed. Oh my goodness. I remember my first trip to Devon to visit mix mum and the fresh air hit me like a you know, it's and it's a sack of potatoes. Basically. I just I couldn't move I was so used to the adrenaline the energy bars of living in London the first time you met them when I when I yeah, I love is basically couldn't speak. She's alive and I'm doing a grand job of putting away and then you know, you're sitting out. The porch and I basically couldn't speak. I remember the wow is this is a proper holiday. We taking time off great. I'm going to hit you where it hurts. Let's let's get some downtime and and it was quite scary. At first. I was so used to being that Buzzy creative chatty person and I thought I'm just been stolen from me. But actually that was me on a that wasn't the real me. That's that's barter our control. Is it that kind of aggravated aggravate? Yeah control aggravated totally aggravated. I am Barta. I live in Nevada environment and I wasn't doing enough grounding or because you don't like increases like so I need to look to the Opposites to bring balance. Okay. So let's go to that. So Carter to guard to the aggravate aggravated balancing. What do we do? I need to look at the other elements ovata is space and are I need to look for fire water and Earth. So fire so vital is cold row rough fast erratic. You can tell by the way. I speak my hands are flying all over the Nice and look what I'm wearing your in a t-shirts and because you're a pizza. I've got, you know a cashmere top on her tracksuit bottoms. I've got my feet tucked into the creases of my of my legs to keep them warm. I'm sitting on a blanket because I like the comfort and I'm saying anything about an ice bath exactly exactly. So we're two people living, you know, the same reality and we want and need different things. So that's why it's not one rule for all that's why One size doesn't fit all you are constantly changing and as I'm getting Bossier and you know stepping into this role of maybe teaching and sharing right now. I'm like Michael is coming up is coming up. I'm warming up so when I walk out and do, you know Talks by the end of it. I have to take my jumper off because I'm so hot because my pictures come in to kind of be that drive that fire. And then I wound down and then I need to kind of get warm and comfy and cozy again interested in because it channeling at that moment as well as yes. Yes. Yes, so Kathy, what would you do for Kathryn Cather us? Okay apha. So if you're a Catholic person as a lot of water and fire you tend to have you know, physically you tend to have glossy hair glossy skin very moist skin. You're the kind of person that doesn't really need body lotion and the idea of someone pouring oil over you is like Because you're so Lush. Anyway be like you tend to be Lush Lush kafir. They tend to be the kind of person. Who are he missed the train? Oh, well, what's next you know or something happened didn't go quite you know, or someone says to you. What do you wanna watch the movies or where you want to go and you're like, yeah, whatever you think, you know, you're just you're not you're living in your body. You're more rooted and grounded. But if you're Catholic gets aggravated say you're doing a sedentary desk job. Bob eating very oily Foods, you're not getting enough of that kind of space are warmth. You're quite cold as well. They're quite cold to touch then you can get very Cafe aggravated and that might look like being a bit insula or a bit greedy a bit wanting to hold on to everything one loving their routine so much. They can't stay out of it, you know because Catherine is got a little Catherine. Yeah, or It could be you know that that catheter has to play a part because he's watching three children. That's like highly stimulating. You know, that's really in her brain. So she needs that routine because the opposite to the varta and she was as I've so good when you're around Tony because it just gives me this umph it comes in. It gives me the lift I need is well you come and bring a lot of pizza into the be interesting to see within relationships, right? I'll absolutely so so Nick is tried o Sheikh. He's obviously living in London, which is very Vata Pitta. Us those two could get aggravated because I'm so Vata Pitta also varta almost his kapha really comes in to be the opposite to to ground me down. And whenever I have a bit of a slump and I hit the kind of you know, because you can you can get so Vassar exhausted. You literally get pushed the other way course, and that's when you can't get out of bed. You feeling quite down or Melancholy. You don't remove off the sofa. You don't have any drive, you know, your you run out of steam then next varta kicks in is like Let's go to the park. Let's go and do that. I know what will make you nicer. He becomes the kind of the moving ideas Force there. Whereas normally, that's me. So definitely in a partnership or for example, I could hang out with another creative art a person and one of us will step back a bit because to doing the same job. What do you get? You don't you don't get Harmony Overkill? Why is it great to understand within mean every relationship isn't it could be in business anything to really understand that. Model of Independence we fantastic. Oh, man, we've been accompanied by Reiko. We're going to read it one dowshen understand what we doing. I mean if you look at Deepak Chopra, I think he's created Deepak has obviously or west of medical doctor and you know, indian-born Indian Heritage Revival has very much been part of his life and they've developed systems to kind of recognize your traits. And in fact, this was something I learned in the verdict of the dancers, which is kind of the end of knowledge. It was these classes. I was taking in India, the actual caste system in India was designed. Well not designed. It was initially it was to understand what your qualities were and therefore to do a job that suited those qualities, you know mean so if you are someone that liked routine like to just do a job go home and into the night switch off, you know didn't aspire to be the top of the world then why would you be pushed into a top of the world job, you know and it removes like competition and removes inadequacy you you get to do you know, what do they say in Instagram, you know if you do. What you love it doesn't feel like work and yet when we go to school or how exactly how I was how when I went to school if you weren't academic you were just left by the wayside, you know, and that was just focusing on one form. I know it will of intelligence, you know. Yeah, I think I can remember I think I cross stitched one bookmark. I think I made a pair of Bermuda shorts when I was 12 and I think I had to sit through. It was extremely painful at 14 how to how to how to cook. Rice, which I've been doing since I was 9, you know at school and then that was it that was that was what all you needed as far as life skills were so we will be releasing these these little adults into the world who really don't know how to cook how to grow anything or what their needs are what their needs are and that's a bit scary and I swear I love seeing these Forest school starting up. I love seeing my friend George lamb has created an educational program called grow. And they're doing the first Harvest Festival on Saturday and it's getting the children back on the land and skills, you know and all these things were seen a couple of decades ago as beneath some people or maybe not a good use of intelligence or maybe a little bit like a backwards. Yeah, which is a shame las Calles and Forest and part from today's in the brownies. Would you know what to do? Yeah. He's interesting. Is it because I mean we I mean if you look at the natural Beings of the world we get any test. I mean it's so sophisticated that depth of wisdom, you know, just think how many plants are on the plunking they have that identification of plan and then again would understand naturally ago. I guess not knowing the term Dosha but would understand those personalities and energy types. We were just you were just being naturally able to read it. You wouldn't know how exactly because this is. Yeah, and they know exactly again how to make the whole tribe grow rather than just have a tribe of Indians. Dependent people. Yes all way to be all one organism that we all work together. And again, it's not so what's the word it's not so pigeon-holed that you are the one that collects the sticks. And therefore you are only going to be collecting signatures. It's not that also a way I like to describe it as imagine. I don't know going for coffee or go to the shops with one of your mates and there's definitely between the two of you. There's the one that will check the road right before. Cross it and then think about going out with another mates. They also check the road or you the one that checks the road or when you got with your child. You're the one that checks the road here you take on different roles depending on the person that you're with don't just look right? Yeah and what their inadequacies are or where their strengths are you naturally feed into that. So even within your daughter's, you know, you know three girls raised almost, you know in the same way or they can't be the same parents all of them, but they come up with different strengths at different times and then within you know within the three girls when they play I bet Once More Lonely more bossy on average and then one day she is interesting to observe his they all go they all play out the characters so they will become the character one might be in it the day before. Yeah, but their own personality of course is driven within that character so you can really get to see it within again are independent. I don't know but independent again, yes, so we are making sure we are of nature. So it's We all thats we are the what you see now is that little products of what's going on around us or what's going on within us we are very we're seeing your so depending on you know, what tribe you're following Instagram but things like, you know, you your thoughts become your reality. Yeah, you know that's quite powerful stuff. He was about to be 20 years ago. It would have gone right over my head, but then you start to see it. Yeah, I think you know how I see the world it directly. Affects how people interact with me that day. One of my favorite sayings is you know, if someone's a dick to you, whatever breathe it off if everyone's a dick to you, you're the dick. Yeah, and that's really powerful because if you are having a shitty day you're wearing on your face people are going to be have a perception, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's perception morning rituals you until morning rituals absolutely was gone judging us as a varta. Yeah. The routine but I also can't be there the whole time. So last night was a good example Hemsley and MZ Supper Club. I ate a lot later and a lot heavier than I normally would so I slept in this morning and to seven o'clock when we have about five thirty six five ten years ago. I was not a morning person. Now, I realize I'm cashing in on that energy of the date. So for me working up as early as possible having had a good night's sleep is when I feel my most energized I get to do a bit of movement. Aunt I clean my tongue always first thing I shower first thing right tongues great. Yeah. It sucks great wine Jasmine's comes great little copper tongue scraper you can find on the website it's called again was awful. But then as soon as I kind of printed Tong Tong, you're in the bags and called it tongues and I googled something about it's okay. That's not good. Yeah, it's not much. So yeah Kenny my tongue or something that my Continue Gary guard told me exactly 10 years ago and totally changed my life to having that relationship with with your tongue is like a little window to what's going on. I can see even my food or my lifestyle choices. The last few days have been good for me or not. Depending on what's on my tongue isn't that nuts or this or that or the shape of my tongue all the color of my tongue again? Obvious, isn't it? Yes, absolutely. And obviously, you know people, you know about traditional Chinese medicine that's very important partner at all. So in ayurveda, but now I'm seeing a lot of practitioners say polka tongue out because you can see there as well as the eyes as well as the skin as well as the shape of the face as well as how you're holding your shoulders. We are just one big walking box of information and it's how someone reads it so interpret interpret it absolutely so I get up I clean my tongue I oil pull in the shower, right explain oil pulling oil pulling is so so easy Sometimes women who grew up when I When back in the day you would strip your face to cleanse it with all these things that took off. All the oil was bad. That was bad. Remember that was bad for the ultimate Dry. You are gonna dry you out exactly no oil allowed crispy skin up exam as you want to apply more of this and then you can buy more of that product moisturizer and now we're realizing the oil is actually the most nourishing way to restore and to remove dirt and toxins. So in the same way that oil cleansing the face has become very popular and oiling. The body with a massage while healing the mouth is a really good way of you know oil draws things out and also get sucked in to nourish. So you're kind of nourishing the mouse and pulling out the toxins that have kind of maybe making their way to the surface after a good night's sleep. And there's a great way instead of using those half Matt harsh mouthwashes, which I wouldn't recommend because exactly and you know, The microbiome in our mouth is directly related to our gut microbiome. And so when you're wiping out your mouth of this harsh mouthwashes at feel the feel fresh and zingy because that's what we're led to believe in my tongues burning. That's a good thing. No, gosh, you just wiped out a whole load of good bacteria. So yeah, oily wall kind of oil would you so traditional oil would be a pure sesame oil? Yeah, Nicole it ripened. So it's not so unprocessed that it could go. Rancid on you. It's just stabilized and you will then draw that in and around your mouth working. Your jaw muscles are very good for the face. And you'll pull that in and out of your teeth and people just have to lift Stones. It's nourishes into the gums. It pulls you know bad bacteria gets a chance to get washed out that way and then you spit out the toilet so try and do that for up to 20 minutes. But wow. Yes, as long as that. Yeah, I mean kind of it sure. Anything is good. Yeah. Anything is good. As long as you're going in that direction intention is everything I saw I learned I do it in the shower and then as I finish showering and I put oil on my body. E and put the kettle on I'm still doing it and then definitely split it down the toilet guys not down the others ninjas news to not having a conversation like that where we don't come back with a brilliant wine each other very much fun each other, but I don't sorry. I don't do every day because some days it's just not it's just not part of yeah, I'm not feeling it. That sounds great, but I do then I go downstairs and I'll start sipping hot water. And I'll do some movement. So having this time also helps me get a little pool on the Brew going. So it's a nice time to then gather little dump. Yeah, and that is very well moving going bowel movement. Yeah, because if I you know, let's talk about how I used to wake up. I used to wake up guys to recount that every minute that I could out of us lie because I go to bed too late. So I wake up to a blaring alarm my body like right Jasmine you've got this another day get on with it jump out of bed all know a couple of more minutes. Couple minutes. So you playing with yourself there then you and you finally get up and jump in the shower Smash down a coffee straight out the door. No time for bowel movements are regulated up regulated and and then my body just hold on to that ball movement from you know a to put in the time the rest of the day and even overnight again until I get a moment the next morning you feel relaxed and then you feel relaxed. Yeah. So for me having that time to just do all that and it only takes half an hour. I'm going to 10 minutes of movement 10 to 15 minutes of meditation. I see my hot water and that's done some I didn't want to extra half an hour and my day even if someone's listening they realize that what Jasmine saying they've even if you pulled half an hour back in the evening, yes, you gain that half an hour in the morning and it's the start the day with the right intent. Absolutely. They're not walking out the house completely friends exactly dressed out - I'll move yes on edge. Yes, which is that exact same Sensation that comes in with that alarm clock originally run and you know people listening to this especially young people who don't really like well, I don't really have that online because I'm a Ledge and you kind of heightened feeling exhausting. Yeah, so, you know think about kids at a birthday party having the time of their life by the end. They are smashed. They're overtired they series of all over stimulated and control exactly. Yeah. We had an owner stimulated to Ljubljana and we moved again, right so there are loads of change totally. I'm a rhythm and she was off her head all night. Yeah, which means we're all off. Forehead. Yeah, they can't they don't have kind of the they haven't managed the tools yet. So you really get to see the emotion of it of what it truly is? No, they haven't done down there. Yeah, and that's that conversation. So there's people out there going. I know I'm not stressed and two of them are pictures and they're very much the same there. Organized on it there at the hammering it at some hit class one minute. They're drinking. They're green smoothies. And in yoga the next they're partying but they're brilliant at work, you know, they're just the kind of person you want to employ and one of them text me of the day shift to check herself into a hospital with heart palpitations. Absolutely terrified terrified because I remember it was already 10 years ago and burnout started off started here it with people in their 30s and now we are we going to Advantage of burnout that's that's really highlighting something isn't yes, definitely in terms of sustainability. That is not sustainable. You can't sustain your energy if you are always in this Yang, you know using a Chinese term here at this young way of doing, you know, always doing so Yang think of as a masculine energy. It's the energy of being productive. It's something that we massively applaud here in the west because it means you're getting something done, you know earning money successful or you're out there getting on with it, but if If you don't balance that with the Yen, the feminine energy the calm and grounding cooling energy young is hot energy. You will literally burn now. That's where that term comes from and it's such an important conversation because you know, I mentioned this a lot and most podcasts are I'm on I am discussing is Peter cons term because I just bloody love it and it's called this environmental generation amnezia, right? Every generation that comes along they're born into their new Norm, right? So the lawyer Lawrence who 72, sorry, I just forgot that I think it was 72 we discuss his role as a lawyer when he first started. He would write the letter right he'd have seven days. He get a response to that letter they do their due diligence right there. Everything will be just so research every little detail in there as I know on my God read after write this whole thing out again. Yeah, we'd have to deal seven seven. Yes seven days, right this is that right hand written right saying that all this time and then the machine came and then it became like three days to add a response. Then he said the internet came and then to start with little bit slow and then the mobile phone with the internet came and then he said it's just literally but people aren't even doing the job properly anymore. Like they did when it was pen and paper. That's now I might he might have to deal with ten emails about that. One thing that that would have been dealt with one lesser previously. So we've now we think we're simplifying things that we've actually ramp things up. Yeah, and so if that's your new Norm, that's what you're born into you don't even recognize the length of time that Lawrence had all those years ago. So they had rest right? They had periods of rest are in my dad. Always saying I'll shut my eyes Lotus. I'm just resting my eyes and that was like meditation. Yes. So we need these tools now, right? Yes, the 20s and the Third Generation z z Jen Jen Jen Jen Jen zombie They also you know, they were up there also born not into that only into this world of technology. They're also born into a world where we are talking about well-being. Yeah. I was getting the two extremes. Here's a polarity. Yes. And then and if you look now yoga went very acrobatic, you know rocket Vikram standing on your head, but now we're seeing the rise of Hatha yin-yang creation. Yes. I do sound boards are people come and pay money to lie down and have a snooze if you have sounds about something. I've been to that yes fantastic and that's you know, that's we having to schedule that in because Society is not allowing us to live our the biological Norm as you call it, you know, so if you are surrounded by if you for example if you went to France where everyone apparently takes an hour for lunch that becomes your new Norm, you can consider London in the like, oh my God, I'm going to Justin, you know, or I didn't get to eat today, you know becomes a badge of honor. I didn't eat. I didn't sleep. I'm just trying to make that up. Asian in a matter of weeks. Yes, but then again if you're in a if you're in a new company and people, you know, give you a snide look because you left your desk or you were gone for half an hour, you know, you're going to feel very uncomfortable and I can understand that. So what we're doing effectively is bit by bit. We are beginning to tell society that this is the way that we want to do things, you know, and you watch now and big companies are bringing in gurus or advisors or well-being experts to because they realize You got to get so much more out of your flip your employees. If you a show them the love and be allow them to recuperate because otherwise they get a burn out and you got to replace them. And I hear you're going to replace it with yeah. Another one is the point that is exactly what I love. Is that that Yang is that masculine hot energy and What's the phrase we use for too much Yang burn out, you know and that is what I have a daughter is it talks about you know, when we say things like, oh man, I little spaced out or I or my heart's been very heavy earlier. Yeah, we personally yeah, I was tripping out drooling you when I was at me when I was trying to find him your stasis, you know, you're you're doing something quite extreme and your body's trying to make sense of it the whole time. So that rest is really important as you are seeing today you said day for you if you are on top of it, you're telling everyone I'm being my And the process and then become it never says sorry and then solution becomes white my sleeves out how to get this Dad. Yeah, and if you really feel it, I mean, you know Tony who is the most Nimble thing I've ever met was no it took 10 minutes to make his nest in this sit on this chair because he's aching and you know, the lactic acids building up and incredible process. So getting to know yourself in that way is Eautiful, it stops being that judgmental of all I'm an old man or a broken this or isn't going to work anymore solder, you know, it's actually called look at that. Look at that. Look how things add up and become this and now I just need to take some things away to become that and it just becomes this really wonderful fluid collection deposit deposit collection gather let go, you know easy in Easy Out flow flow. So of course have a book then he spoke. Do sometimes day? Yeah, it's Pilots really nice entry level, isn't it? Yes, it's just it's opening up the door so that yet you can become that process. I guess. Yeah, I need to sound about take from it what you want. That's the beauty of it. You know, it's not an exclusive Club. It's not some kind of diet where you have to follow the rules. It is the manual of living. So if you just decide, you know what I really resonate with this idea of going to bed a bit earlier. I'm going to try it brilliant, you know. Just being able to go to bed ignorance sleep just just ensuring that you're resting at the right time of the day and there is a right time and we're seeing that with shift working Etc. Tommy's just popped up. What about we kids? Yeah, what do you do? I mean, you know because I guess as you as you get older you can kind of you can work out for yourself almost. Yeah. I do identify it within your kids as in the doshas as in doshas. You can take a look for that. No, no. tool and it's so important children you get that right? Maggie had all your kids in Balance old time. It's a very much alike. So for example know me who works with me. We always laugh about this. She's very pizza. So she's in a summer dress as is my sister for most of the year and you know, we don't live in a hot country. They're in summer dresses most of the in they might put on a jacket when it rains so and if I never travel with Naomi, I'm in layers because I need to adjust my temperature. She's in this dress, but it didn't jacket for house. It really closely. Don't think those issues like you're too hot. Wait, yeah, she likes dryer food, you know because she's already got the water element in her. Yeah. I don't have the water element as much so I look for Soups and stews yet when she gets sick. She looks for the soups and stews. So we're and then and then you know, I love a good crack or fracture every now and again so you can really see how those play out. But remember you don't have to kind of totally identify your children. It just becomes you know, what I love about ayurveda is every time you cook a recipe with an ayurvedic intention or with the philosophy. So every time you kind of read a bit, you understand that bit more we don't have to suddenly figure things out. So to speak, you know, so you just recognize of caution. One of my kids has got a bit more of a temper than the other one, you know, that's that's the bitter but it won't be one does it like mealtime? Yeah, you know when people go through this process thinking are we what we've got to win the kids which I hate that process is really just they win themselves just put food out and they automatically will go for what they like. Yes rather than it being this stricto. Your child hasn't developed this skill. Yeah, that's mashed up. Yes, make the meat. Yeah. Well, I don't want to eat that by now. So I'll spit it out. No, you must have it keep putting in. I'm gonna be great process that yeah. I think I can fit parent could become skilled at just even that seeing what it is. They're picking up. Yes, absolutely. And then there are some just some basic kind of guidelines and I Vader as well. So we talked about the eating earlier eating lighter before bed and going to bed at the right time. So, you know different organs here at different. Times of the night and that's why between 10 and 6 the most important times to get rest, whether you're just lying there wide awake, you know, just being horizontal talking of Self in an advanced States in a dark space is very very very important and you want to be horizontal for at least five hours. Yeah things like getting up in the morning and showering before you meditate before you do. Yoga. People have lied you shower before yoga one. I don't do You have hot sweaty yoga and to you're cultivating a cheer of Prana in your body and it comes out in your skin. It's all around you. You don't want to wash it off. So wash the night off because that's what you've been doing a lot of kind of working through things start the day fresh you feel fresh. My mom's favorite thing whenever we've obviously down or upset or sick was go wash your hair. You don't go and go to a shower going because you just feel a bit more together clean, you know other things made me look at a Each time this works for most people. It could be the first meal of the day for a cafe. You might not necessarily need to eat breakfast, but for other people it might be a second meal. This should be the biggest meal because your digestive fire that ugly in your stomach follows that ugly which is the Sun. So when you wake up in the morning your fire isn't fully up and running. So to put on a massive breakfast is actually like sticking a huge log onto a gently until fire that's getting going. It's most people listening now sit. Come on Jazz. What's the Aggie? Mostly I can ideas fire. I know I'm getting all yeah, I can even spot in Sanskrit. And so if we're talking about the fire in US you can say the fire we know that the heat think of the acid in your stomach, you know, the stomach transforms food, which is essentially a poison until it's been transformed into this beautiful fights and vital juice. If you like that we use has to feed our mind body and spirit you think about it. You're not going to Flat Line. Another card. Oh, is that the right word Flatline? No, you're not that injects an avocado into veins, right? No, it's your main vein. Yeah, it's totally toxic. Right? Yeah, you're not going to put chlorella straight in there. You're not going to put up straight in there. No, you're my friends normal matter in the morning and your stomach has to transform it. So that's the fire. That's the change. That's the combustion. That's a metabolism. And so that's why they call it ugly. So the most important thing. Understand that I Vader is how is your digestion and what's happened in the world being welded moment all about digestion all about digestion. The East has been talking about if the thousands of years we the West with all that science. It's like we've just discovered as a gut. Yeah, and it's got brain and as it got brain, yeah, so we all right exactly. So while I love what we're doing in science, it doesn't tell you the whole picture the whole picture already exists now because there's reductionism within it, right? Yes, and finally we got the reductionism into the mic. The biome of the garbage is then I can use a bigger. This is an organism rather than sit there and try and calculate exactly what you're putting into the garden. Have you got the right amount of prebiotics and probiotics, etc. Etc. More think how digestible is as food. And how how what capacity is my ugly working right now am I simulating with the food? So my ugly is low because I have got indigestion because I'm tired because I'm stressed because I'm angry. Because I've just woken up if I go and take the most incredibly nutritious organic biodynamic meal and dump it in there without chewing and without being present. I'm going to call myself a bit of a disaster that food is not going to become that incredible neck to reduce that. We assume it is because it's made up of loads of great plant Foods just so I mean, yeah, I mean you can I mean you can just throw out the pH balance alone, right? Absolutely. You're just you're basically putting A big undigestible log onto a low burning fire and it's going to smolder and it's going to putrefy and it's not going to burn cleanly, but if your fire is up and it's roaring you just hiked Tony you just said just this morning I could if I could eat through my ears Jazz, you know, he is above one is again, one of these These are laddies loads. I'm actually fueling so you could eat what we might be going in that. He's watching away and she probably don't rush it. He might he's fire is burning. So brightly that if I gave you what we might consider as the most unusual richest junk food plate right. Now your body would still make great work of it. Your fire is on its going to burn through it, you know, and that's the difference. That's why you might be on holiday super relaxed having a great time. Like why does bread cheese and wine going down so well because Cause you're relaxed you're fires working you ate when you are hungry, you slept you took a nap in the afternoon because you were tired, you know, you had time to have a glass of water because you said I'm thirsty sounds wonderful. You had a relaxing P how many of us go to the toilet. This is a really good one. I knew I was I knew you know, I had to sort myself out when I stood literally push my pee through because I didn't have time. Pauline the opposite on the rungs because I nearly wet myself. Yeah, it's on. Oh my God. Oh my God, right. Well, I'm really waiting in the middle of a village. It's not that easy. Yeah, I do. Remember when you first asked me to do this. The last time I did a 5K run was a group parkrun and it was in Killington in Devon. Yeah, and everyone kind of took off and the pizzas the picture and me the competitive side. I used to run from high school kind of was like Why my 10 people people back on a bit the front I'm going to I'm going to do this and the adrenaline just took it out of me. I thought you were gonna dump crap myself and pee myself. It was it was exhausting and actually turned to lead before I even got halfway through it was like my legs were so heavy after that. It was a nightmare so many images from that we can put them up it was that I just kept the head of this one guy and girl and just the last like, you know, A couple of meters. They just went past me and I was gonna happen. But yeah, your you know, your body is just trying to lose its so focused on what it's doing. It just wants to dump anything that's getting in his way, you know and and dumping them it's all about who's doing what who's a lot but, you know you want to be able to dump it when it's ready to be dumped. Yes. I hold onto that hold on to that stuff and that's what of Life That's why and also don't push stuff. So we love you know, he's about a squat then yeah, mr. Video anyway. Jazz ripped her pants where James was just for those been showing off games. We were showing off in there. I was like totally it just ripped my new jeans. Yeah, but I was talking about pooping. Yes something and putting it would important position so about oh gosh 15 years ago. There was a girl a friend of mine. She's from Australia and she was very much into this, you know. Animalistic movement she should come and stay with me part of the time in the year and I see shoe marks on My Lou. I was like, what were you doing? She's an alarm squatting on the Louvre. It's a really bad accent. Yeah, Mom. I'm going to school and I look like I said why she said was much better if you think about it, you know, you're all in a lineman. You're not going to strain it gravity takes, you know, because I wasn't doing that. Well, I have to say 15 years ago and I took on I took on board and it's brilliant and now I've got a little kid store said it's you know, yeah. Well, I just saw Hit The Squatty Potty with The Squatty Potty. Really, yeah. But I have you know, I know I've utilized that the squatting on a loose eat on times when I've traveled and I'm not feeling like I'm you know, I need to go but it's not probably coming or it's not feeling like a full evacuation. Yeah, and also we can use that as a signal calmly. Yeah, so you can use the poop. Yes. Yes. Now I know I'm stressed now. I know I'm not regulated. Now. I know this because I like that though Chic breakdown of your poop going. Okay. So when vodka is aggravated, right you'll get Rabbit pellets. It's okay, you know the deer poop. So we've had those I don't think you have to have you. Okay, so I'm going to tell you next. Okay, so varsa will have a dryer remember there are we dry light erratic. So you'll get little rabbit pellet pops, you know, the pits are when it's aggravated and I think you're going to recognize this one. You get the rungs you get hot liquid. Remember a picture is hot liquid oily. So if your fire is 2 Hots you basically incinerating what you're putting in before you could use Lies, you're not burning its have you're burning through it rather than burning it steadily which then overfed and undernourished kind of exactly exactly you are not able to utilize absorb assimilate any of the goodness. So, you know, I know quite a few people who are very kind of active every out there and they're putting away a lot of food and you ask them very problems. Go to the toilet. No, go three four times a day. That's a sign what and then you look at the Bristol stool chart 1 2 3 4 5. Which one are you? You and then the extreme that the runs, you know, the Other Extreme is the dry pellets and lovely at number three is that nice smooth easy? Nothing on the tissue when you wipe, you know Hast brilliantly and you feel like complete you've got your completed that mission. Sorry if anyone is it works great food is remember its Earthly in its watery. So they tend to do very kind of large soft foods. No, and yeah, you can get quite constipated and sticky and Tory when they're aggravated. So it's a really nice indication of what's going on. So you could be a pizza type. I have a calf or aggravation. So don't again, hang on to what your greeting or your your Constitution is because your vicar T is really actually about where you are at. Yeah, so you might go and hang out with a whole load of pictures which you might aggravate your pizza. Hanging out with pictures but also might make you go. Oh God. I want to be here and you're in your in your inner. You know, you might feel very what's the word inadequate. So you might start shrinking into the other doshas kind of come into play. So it's you just a kid just a moving Feast. Basically, it's lovely to the get to know all three of the doshas and if you go to my website, you can do a three minute - your test and actually in answering it are my eyes flicky and Artie on my lashes longe and Lush. I'm like who's like this you get to actually understand through Website Jasmine Hemsley.com. There we go. Everyone to take a look at that. I think is it such a valuable tool? You know any age group so we talked about 20s, you know, this is anywhere. This is great for parents. You know my mum particularly. Yeah, you know if you talk about with your children or your child your child can articulate Mom. I'm feeling very hot. I need something cooling. You know, that's a natural way to bring balance and Mom. You know what I'm feeling under the weather. I think I need soup because it's pretty Super's predigested if you think about it, there's nothing wrong or to contend with their there's nothing hard to break down and the body when it's when it's sick. It needs the easiest fuel without expending energy in the wrong place for him. Sustainable balance gonna get some soup. Now, I'm going to I'm going to keep smashing these balls so allowed to reframe that smashing smashing balls. Yeah. I think we I think we can we talk about fashion. Yes, that's so important when we discuss their yeah, because we talk about sustainability is if it's reuse recycle with the rewilding Alex and I've got the refused we do. Use reuse recycle recover rots. That is the hierarchy of waste. There you go, but we need to know so like going back to Lawrence. The lawyer is what sustainable today as the human being. Yeah. So even when it comes to that chart up there is not to get so stressed on the refuse reduce, you know, do just do what you can is use or refuse refuse. Yes you refuse it. I think it's more dump it. I was it like refuse. Yeah, I think so. Oh, I thought it was like refusing things that someone says, oh here's a gift and it's plastic and I might go. No, I'm not having that. Yeah, so I tell people at Christmas and birthdays. I don't want anything I think weeklies. Yeah, you know, we can't compost or we can't burn we don't want it for the kids give you a toilet roll then. Yeah, but aren't you guys in my compost heap? Yeah. Yeah. It's Sustainability in fashion. So, you know I came right before I went into what I'm doing today. I was doing TV commercials, but my main line of work was e-commerce suddenly. There's this whole world of e-commerce and I started off doing you know used to do a shoot of maybe three outfits a day that was back in the kind of fashion days and everything took time like the look like Lawrence the lawyer you would take a Polaroid the lighting would take all day because there was no way to adjust this on a computer and No way to backtrack you got to get it right there. And then so take all these Polaroids that cost a lot of money by the way to check the lighting and then you would start shooting then a career would come collect the film one roll of film take it to be processed. I can feel James game really excited here. Why is he just he bought a camera film camera? Yeah. What do we call it? A film can be bought film camera. Yeah. It's a geek out about it the other day. Yeah, it's Nick. So a career would come and collect it take off to me process of the lab. And so everyone on the shoot. We didn't have a long lunch. Come back. Check the film. Are we good to go? Yes, well, we'll start using our so equator pop film lemons and shoot this guy. So that was what I shoot was and it turned into this digital age and I remember lots of obviously I'm not going there. I'm not going there not going there. They eventually had to had to move the time. So you have to move with the technology and then it Of to eight shots a day then 20 shots a day, then 30 shots first shots of the last changes changes changes. Okay. Yeah. So when I left I was doing about between 40 and 60 items of clothing in a day. What? Yeah, and I think of all right. Yeah, so I was watching all this kind of fashion as putting on so it was terrible ill-fitting cheap and you literally have the Mac operators there and they be station and they would literally be tucking They beat they'd be manipulating the image to make what was essentially a size 12 fit my frame, which is smaller and make it look neat and Polished and put together until we can together perfect basically campaign image on website and it felt a bit gross all this clothing coming in and me kind of knowing that it wasn't what it says on the tin or what we look like. Anyway, I was also a big shopper I hadn't really been somebody that you could buy clothes when I was younger. And so this is my Outlet Plus being a model you tend to hang around a lot in neither shops between castings and you go and buy something because honey fast fashion was a thing. You could literally pick up the top for a fiver. Yeah. Yeah fully in that world. Yeah, I was massively in that world. And and when you're a model you also self-employed side look at my receipts from you know, High Street stores at the end of the in a bit like 20 items. I bought all in one like top 499 are banned 199 trousers nickers pants pack of three socks another top another top, you know, I was thinking I don't even know what those things are. That's quite scary that's disconnected. And so and it was so so yeah, and so it became as I moved into food and realizing it's not just what you're eating. It's when you're eating it's how you're eating. I just became a lot more conscious of my environment and the actions I took and it by That's not to reflect in I remember 12 10 years ago sitting with my best deal and I'm going to start wearing pajamas and decided that I needed pajamas. I didn't know Nene I'm always wearing a t-shirt try to find an organic pair of pajamas. Nothing came up and I thought I live in London surely. Someone's doing organic cotton pajamas note bit by bit though more Brands more designers like to come up and do this and I thought you know what? I'm going to support them when I buy new I'm going to I'm going to look to these Guys first and have the same most of the time it wasn't my style wasn't my taste and also very expensive that time wasn't it? Very very expensive thing that usually comes up. So I was sent this is who they organic something organic company, right Inglot ya Goin. Oh, they're saving money is label this so it's so they sent in a night and they said old you mind putting up something on stores. I yeah perfectly fine doing it then some rich You kidding me. How much does a 95 pounds for a t-shirt maybe neck t-shirt and pair of pants? Yeah, so I responded I just said, well you have to understand that look we have to get behind companies like this because they have to go through that transitional phase. Yeah, and we have to respect the monetary cost of that. It's a huge expense. Yeah transform from a company that then look at the same will measures and how many units are they shifting, you know, exactly companies that literally make 5 p on Hurry Garmin or every product they sell but they're selling so many. How do you compete against those people? It's not true. It's also the packaging right? So it's it used to be on what every item would be in its own plastic wrap. Yes to say this would become his own plastic, right? So A friend of mine has a leggings business. You said it is side offer. I think five years ago, they're getting one pair of leggings. So this is nuts right. We got to stop this. Can we have this? Yeah, when are we don't have that yet. So that's correct. Whole thing, right man. So the mechanism has changed. Yes. The factories has changed and that was the biggest cost right? So that really reflected in how much you could charge for leggings. And that was at that stage to have 1010 leggings in one plastic wrap. And then once they have them they would individually wrap them all in paper and send them out. So then they just the hours alone. Yes, and if you think about it, you know when you look at maybe some designer some designer Brands the box. So the shoe comes in a shoe bag and Tony is moving. I've got a squad to find a new position this body squat now, that's something I can score that will do for now so good. So shoes will come in a shoe bag to protect the individual shoe, which would then come in a shoebox, but then the shoe box was also popular. Became part of the offering some the shoebox would then be protected by something else and it starts to become all this because you want everyone want something fresh and you you you know, I remember people I said work in a shoe shop and they didn't want the box that was a bit battered and I'm like it's the box is just a box box. You're going to go home you put that box in the bin. We've got some battered shoes or put them in a really nice boat and it's funny because it changes your mentality and now Now, you know we're sitting in this place called, you know lesser litter and there's a whole new, you know type of person coming in here who doesn't want the packaging it will want the packaging at all. So we're shifting. We are shifting and that's what's exciting. And this is where technology is brilliant. I only can It can it solve the problem of getting 10 leggings into a guy rather than just one it can also it can also spread the message. You know, I remember when I didn't want to have chemical-laden Beauty. Excuse me. I'd spent 15 years under braking Hot Lights with endocrine disruptive chemicals in cooking them into my skin but to stand up and you know it you know and say I don't want to my skin people look like are you off your rocker? What you want what you want cashmere wrap the lipstick, you know, that's what they think is like it's like and we just don't fully understand it and we also think that to be Free is to be a luxury rather than a requirement of hearing requirement want to say chemical-free, you know, everything's chemicals. I'm talking about, you know, disruptive chemicals exactly. What is it was harsh was harsh. And so yes, I basically started to put these companies and I've changed my stance a lot in many ways. One of the things I've always been is I've always been quite thrifty. My parents are very Thrifty. I love a secondhand. I love picking up furniture from the side of the road. I love fixing And mending things and I love vintage charity you name it hand-me-downs and that's part of my life. So I'm really trying to encourage people who are kind of freaked out by wearing other people's clothes or something. That's not new. I've got something on my website that helps you to you know, shift the energy of the of the of the person who previously wore it I also like a ceremony the ceremony lovely intention based or using Palace on toe or are you sound or giving thanks to the person. That's exactly and then saying it up. I'm hoping that right. Our energies leave it in. This is now it's new life with me. I think that's important and I think a lot of these rituals that we dismisses, you know, we were you are important because it brings us to the present moment. It defines our intentions. It's it's helps us to yeah to have the right energy in and around things and also, you know, I do a lot of kind of modeling if you like the free a lot of Brands who on the sustainable kind of track to highlight, you know highlight their existence to other people who are looking for, you know, a new t-shirts or a new pair of trainers or you know, like then some I said, do you know if you love these trainers I was wearing and she's wonderful summer and she didn't know you get a single pair of trainers, you know, that didn't use natural materials like wool didn't use his this harsh glue the center of and I know I'm very aware that yes when you're talking about a five pound vest And in comparison to an ethically bought 70 quid vest is going to rule a lot of people out it does but you know what my friends joke about this, but I bought I bought years ago twenty something years ago. I bought a mew mew jacket. Yeah. I bought a Vivienne Westwood coat. And I still haven't done their real classic. Yeah, and everyone just eating today stops you get that jacket, you know, and that's a different. Yes. I'm wearing underneath here. This is a brand called basic which has sustainable credentials, but I didn't know at the time. I bought it in Australia any basis for this is organic basis. So it's basic. Okay Dass I ke no. No, no basic Australian brand. Very well as its influence and it's frowned on and and I avoid exactly 10 years ago. I was in Australia exactly 10 years ago and I still wear it all the time. I can't promise that I wear all my wardrobe. I've got quite a big water. I'm gonna hold my hands up here. But a lot of it is second-hand a lot of his hand me downs and and I get gifted a lot as well from these designers because I do show things off but not everything is gifted. I sent it back and I just think Even I'm even a bit Kroger in washing to be honest because I love that. There are extremists out there that will take it apart of you say I'm organic and and biodynamic and you know plastic free and there are experts out there who will tear you down. Yeah, but of course, we in greenwashing we are making it a more of a language. I am interested in a vegan lipstick. I don't want my makeup to sort of animals. I don't want this crowd. I don't want love' I'll you know what blubbery my lipstick that was a Thing Once Upon a Time. And so it's changing the conversation. It's making us more aware and we're moving in that direction. And because it's a competitive market. That's the like that's the world. We live in brand will change we have to have to change so we are some faster than others. We're moving. We're moving the right direction. And I think that's what's important. Yes, if we individually make such some changes eventually that you know, there's more people getting that bubble. Definitely in whatever way it is. If if you're conscious about one of your 10 decisions that you make we are that's progress, that's brilliant. Yeah, and if you think you know, this is my favorite quote from that alarm over you think you're too small to make a difference try sleeping with a mosquito. All right, how's it going? You know, I think one of my room last night, I think we should I love her. It's such a good quote is beautiful. I think wondering what up more than the sound of that mosquito. That's when you have to practice really good meditation. Like just been Fab. Thank you. Thanks for watching the train all the way your body's exhausted. I'm mentally yes. Thanks. Thank you for all that. You're doing serious. I'm glad you're running this not me. Hey, you know will dinner be right? Absolutely Making Waves. Yeah super can't wait to see you on day 10. I really enjoyed that conversation Jasmine What a Beautiful Soul if you feel the need to find more balance, let's face it who doesn't then head over to www.skinnygainmuscle.com. Thanks for welcoming wisdom. I also highly recommend picking up a copy of Jasmine's book East and West it's a well-being Warriors must and a real favorite in the house riddle. If you like the conversation and please do show some love by spreading the message wide and far if you have in any way been inspired by my 3030 sustainable challenge, then please do make a donation to one or more of the sustainability and environmental organizations that I am fundraising for. You will find the justgiving page is in the links and remember peeps. We can't all live in nature, but that doesn't mean we can't live naturally.
I had the pleasure of getting behind the mic with my well-being sister the one and only Jasmine Hemsley. Jasmine Hemsley is a three-time best-selling author, the Founder of Hemsley + Hemsley and East by West,  a TV presenter with a show broadcast in over 25 countries, chef, food and health writer, restaurateur and nutrition & wellness expert. Jasmine believes that small, key changes in our everyday lives can create a profound, positive impact. Even in a hectic modern world, health, wellbeing and happiness are well within reach. She encourages people to take their health into their own hands, using great nutrition, mindfulness and balance as tools to build a strong, healthy and vital body." And we discuss exactly that. We discuss everything well-being- from; doshas to digestion, sustainable humans to sustainable fashion. Jasmine has a beautiful soul, and more simply put, just wants to help us all to be more human. I hope you enjoy the conversation. 