Good morning, fellow drinking. Mommy's I Whitney one of the cofounders of the group drinking. Mommy's you are listening to our very first like should broadcast where we are going to be talking about a rather controversial topic, which is going to be motherhood and sexuality joining me today. I have Kate calling in from Massachusetts. Hey everybody. I'm the single mom of the group. I've got two beautiful girls. We're living up in freezing-cold, Massachusetts right now, so Going to bring a nice little perspective to this discussion of being a single mom and trying to date. We also have Katie calling us from the great state of Hawaii. Hello. I am a kind of working mom military spouse and pretty much enjoying life in Paradise. And then with my husband for 18 years so sex drive is always a fun topic indeed. It is next. We have Nicky calling us from California. Hi, I'm Nicole. I'm a mom of three girls and Mesquite whole mom me and my husband actually live out in the desert. No, we're out in California the I'm a fire wife firefighter. A wife and yeah, I don't know what else to say. So you're an important person. Maybe you own that and then last night we have our guest co-host for tonight Lisa Bruce. He's calling us from my home state of Washington. Hi, my name is Lisa and I own Lisa Jay Bruce photography. I'm a Boudoir photographer and I specialize in food War. I also have three kids a boy and two girls And I've also been with my husband about 18 years. So 19 years. So yeah sex is a Hot Topic every woman who comes into the studio we end up talking about sex. So I got lots of stories and lots of perspectives and I'm excited to be here with you guys. You're really excited to have you here with us Lisa. So it's funny how this topic actually came to be about two weeks ago. We were approached by a company that most of you probably know of as being the adult toy store conglomerate known as Adam and he's when Adam and Eve first reached out to us. They said they were interested in For us we wanted to go about doing something that's tasteful. That's geared towards Mom's. If you'd like to know more. Please go back to us and I reached out not knowing exactly where this topic was going to go. But honestly, I was curious not gonna lie and after speaking to one of their marketing Representatives. He came to find that add a new Eagles looking at getting more mods. To join in to a big marketing campaign to empower them to feel confident about their bodies as well as to get them. Of course by the merchandise as they are an adult actually store and lingerie outdoor afternoon, you know after all and I went back to the girls from drinking. Mommy's and said hey, look are you guys interested in joining in into this partnership? And honestly, that's where we came to the conclusion that. Motherhood and sexuality isn't a topic that really gets discussed. And in fact, there's often a negative taboo that goes along with sexuality being sexy and having sex god being in the Mom apparently just some reason that just ends. Once you start popping out kids. So here we are today approaching a brand new marketing campaign with a company that is known around the world for Selling sex toys and lingerie and I'm pretty excited about it. So we're going to start the conversation with some Roundtable discussion. And first of all, I would like to go to Kate. So how do you feel you have grown as a woman in your sexuality and strong being a single post, you know pre mom to after motherhood You know, it's actually been very very interesting Road for me because I dated a lot in high school and then got married to a guy I barely knew when I was 19 years old. And so things are just crazy then and you know, everything was just so fun and then I became a mother I was that girl in high school. That was like 90 pounds soaking. Whack with like 10 pounds of change in my pocket and then when I got pregnant with my first daughter I put on about 80 pounds. I just absolutely loved during my pregnancy. That was all I wanted Chick-fil-A and talk about so the body changes that I went absolutely destroyed my self-confidence and then ended up getting divorced not my second husband. Things are great got divorced again. And you know had a daughter with my second husband and again, I put on a bunch of weight. So so the body image issues a few especially now that I'm my kids are 12 and 8 and I'm still not back down to pre-pregnancy body, and I'm trying to date the right now. I have some really steep competition well, and it's hard to you know, when you're established and marriage like I've been married for going on 11 years ago in January. I'm not out there in the dating game. So it's it's atrocious right now. I mean just especially with all of the Instagram models that are out there. It just can wreak havoc on your self-esteem because all of these women are out there bikinis and Tops and tiny little shorts and I'm sitting here in a big baggy sweaters because I just don't like my body right now or I didn't like my body, right? So it was very it was very difficult to get anybody to even approach me or acknowledge me when I approached them. So it was it was tough. Absolutely. No, Katie. What is her your perspective? And all this nobody even think by posting, you know, the competition even being married. You still feel like God has a beautiful that he might see on Instagram. You hear me now? Yes, we can hear you, you know, even like the insecurities even after being with somebody for 18 years. You still haven't like I don't look like I did before and I have the Critter out there and now it's like oh God does he still find me attractive said he in my does he like the way I look and I asked Mom for my cam. I do I look okay. And of course, he's a supportive husband is I can be like it. No, he says he would be honest and tell me but I think that As a female, I like shit. Am I going to be fucking good enough for this guy? You're gonna stay with me for another 18 years. I get what you're saying. I can't imagine dating. I always knew I would never be getting married again ever like that. Yeah. Right. So my girl smart girl. So Nikki, you just out of all of us. You are the most recent one. Who just had a baby? Yeah, how do you feel? Actually this time it's been really hard for me all my girls. I was pretty pretty close to where I was before. I had my first getting back but you know, I had stretch marks your body's not perfect afterwards. It happens. Obviously my second. I had more stretch marks and it didn't really bother me and I actually lost weight pretty quick with her. But then this one I gained a lot more she was almost nine pounds at Birth. And I have so much so many stretch marks. My stomach is I have extra skin on my stomach now and it's I mean granted it's only been six months, but it's been really frustrating. I think even in sight or we back down there this time, so I had to get a lot of stitches and I mean people don't like talking about that, but that shit's real and it happens. Okay, so it is real I had a letters After giving birth. Yeah. Yeah. I can't remember how many I had. I probably like eight maybe but still it's scary and my husband didn't even want to tell me how many and the doctor was like. Oh you just tore a little bit. Don't worry about it, but nope. It was actually painful right afterwards. So yeah, I don't know this time like just because my body is not where I want it to be right now. It's been a lot more difficult. Plus, it's baby. Number three like I have other two little ones to keep up with and then her let's go. Yeah this time it's been hard order I guess see but that's also one of the other things as well is when you have three little ones that you're chasing around. It's hardly you find time to do what you need to do like hair appointments working out. I just remember having one child for the first two years again is life. It was next to Impossible. To get to the gym because new pajamas wouldn't let me bring a baby in there even in a stroller or packing play. There was no yeah childcare available. And so it was very self-defeating for me to want to get back. Like I wanted to get back into shape, but I couldn't because there were limitations and being military family like, you know Katie it's hard because we don't have family there. You're just on your own. And it's like to be single. Yeah, it doesn't help with body image now with you Lisa. You also have three little ones like Nikki. How do you feel from where you were prior to having kids to after having kids about your own self image? Um, that's kind of a loaded question because my Boudoir business has completely changed Michael my perspective on my body women's bodies and how everybody feels about their body everybody who comes in they they have insecurities and and me learning that every single person has insecurities kind of normalizes. It and it actually makes me have a lot of confidence. And so well, I have had three kids and I have definitely I'm not where my body was before but there is no like to me there's no before like you are where you're at because that's where you're at. And there's no going back you had three kids. If you want to go back that's erasing three children, like it just isn't it shouldn't even be your mentality at all. It's all internal 100% And I had my own bun or pictures taken this summer at the heaviest I've ever weighed I fucking love them. They're like, yeah, you've seen them. So it's so it's so mental. Everything is so mental that I mean ever even just listening to all of your guys's stories. It was like my heart wanted to like jump out of my chest because I wanted to start like preaching to each of you as to why you shouldn't feel the way that you were talking about. Feeling because that's just what I do and I love it. And it's so hard to it's hard to get to that place. But I am there. I'm there where I I don't want to go back. I don't want to be who I was before I had kids because this is where I'm at, and I'm okay with that. Yeah, of course, I'd love to get to the gym more but you know same issues that anybody else is having with that and You know the best you just have to do the best that you can do and if that's you know going for a walk or whatever that makes you feel better. That's what you got to do. And I just choose not to stress about it at all. See and I absolutely love that mentality. And that's one of the reasons why I think it's really important for women to go and make Whatever gestures they need to do to make themselves feel more confident having the photographs taken I think is a really important step because it shows a raw and vulnerable side of you that a lot of people didn't get to see Lisa for those of you that don't know. I know Lisa from many years back way back in the Petco days. Yes, we worked at Petco is awesome, but two summers ago. I had Lisa take my photos for her for photography and I'm not gonna lie. I was really insecure about it. I had fallen off the CrossFit bandwagon for a while. So I wasn't as telling it as I wanted to be. What okay, excuse me. Why are you guys in here? Okay parenting at a nest here. Oh, yeah, always a problem. but so we have an opportunity to go and get some photos taken and I told me so I'm like, you know, I'm really really worried about I don't feel like I am ready to have my photos taken and she was amazing about making me feel comfortable making me feel relaxed and honestly, it was a very empowering experience So for you Lisa, you have photographs so many women a lot of them Hans. Yes. I am very curious to hear how you feel. Your work has gone to change the stigma around women who are mothers and reclaiming their sexuality making them feel confidence in their bodies as well. As you know changing the norm. We don't see Mars in a sexual light and if we do, it's usually negative something to do with a MILF or the person has loose morals and values, but what you do is truly art, so we would love to hear some of your experiences. Well, it's so I was trying to think of how how best to describe it and you know, A little bit more background on my business. I have a Boudoir Studio. I have photographed over 200 women just this year. So I see I see a lot of women and not all moms a lot of moms, but all ages over 18 and it's hard because so many people come in and there's they're so nervous. Everybody's nervous. Everybody messages me and says I'm so nervous. Oh my God. I'm like, I'm gonna throw up everybody does and so I always tell him I'm like you and everyone else you'll be fine. But then when they come in, I always you know, I obviously I have my business model in which I follow and I help get people prepared. But then once they come in we talk it's like it's like the ultimate girl time and so often the conversation does turn into talking about sex and talking about where they're at with it and how they feel about themselves and a lot of times the secrets that come out are pretty common. It's very much. So a lot of times it's people who haven't been having sex with their partner with their husbands because they are they do not like their body. There's a lot a lot of that and there's people there in my studio getting naked with me for pictures, but won't with their husband because they are so Torn apart about the way that they look and so a lot of times, you know, I just tell them I'm like they do not care like they do not care. If you've gained 20 pounds they wanna have sex with you like they don't care and and so we have a lot of sex talk a lot of encouraging and the session in general is amazing. I use professional hair and makeup artist. So people always look amazing and Everybody loves their pictures. I have not had one single person come back and say they didn't like their pictures and nine times out of ten people message me later and be like, hey, guess what? We had text, you know, and they tell me and it's just this becomes this whole relationship. That is so far beyond just me taking pictures it is so there's so much afterwards I get messages for ever from People telling me how much I change their life, which is really weird because I just feel so normal talking about all the things that I talked about and doing all the things that I do that it's kind of heartbreaking. I'm like, why isn't this more normal? Like, how am I affecting you so much but it's true. I I get messages every single day from people talking to me about how much it's changed them in my Boudoir group alone. Own I get a lot of comments from people saying that they it's like the most positive place that they have a lot of you know that it's the place that they come to my Boudoir group is a place that they come to to share pictures and stories and whatnot because they don't have anywhere else to post them and it's just super freaking empowering and it really is. Yeah. It's totally changed my life and And it's changed a lot of people's lives. And another thing that I do which I thought about a second ago with something. Somebody said about Instagram. There's a lot of people I follow on Instagram that I feel are really inspiring super sexy women who are who are bigger Audrey little is one of them. I fucking love her she's super badass and she is thick and she wears two-piece swimsuits and just does her thing. Thing and I have a lot of women like that that I follow and I tell people go follow these people and take those other people and I'm not going to name names, but you know who I'm talking about take those other people off your Instagram. You don't need to follow them. They're making you feel bad about yourself. Well, and that's a really important part to bring up because you are normalizing what the human body looks like and that's be real. A lot of what we see on Instagram is a filtered life. Not just because it's literal filters. You know that people using its Very selective and that's one of the reasons why we found the drinking models is because there's been an unrealistic expectation on motherhood as well. Everything has to be pinched is perfect all the time. And that's why I absolutely love this conversation that we're having right now because you don't talk about the body. My body is not the same post having Gavin I every day. I look at my body. It's like I have stretch marks in places that I didn't have prior my skin on my stomach is looser. And those are things you know, they said his insecurities in the back of my mind, but I'm not gonna lie. There's been moments. Like I said almost 11 years of marriage where I have felt so unsexy that it has literally interfered with my sex life with my husband. There was one point where I went almost three Knots without having an intimate relationship with them not because I didn't find him attractive not because I didn't want to have that connection with them. But because I didn't feel confident in myself. And so it's really interesting for me to hear you talk about these women who are having fun photographs taken by you saying that after they have those photos they started having intimate relationships with Partners again. And it just goes to show psychologically how important it is to talk about our body's changing being different because what we see in Instagram or in these magazines, it's not realistic. It's not Dull. I mean even then they're further shots. What you do is wonderful. I was talking with Kate earlier this evening and we We were scouring through trying to find some statistics about everyone tonight. And one of the things that I found that was very disturbing was the topic of sexuality and Womanhood in general. It's a really hard to find anything on it. There was a study done by Bridgewater State University back in 2014 that scoured through eight of the biggest parenting and motherhood magazines in the United States. They scan through of the 14,700 equally 6r. Of all of those articles only 2.3 percent talked about sexuality. It's it 2.3 percent and it's funny because when you think about sex and motherhood You think about some negative stereotypes? So like for you Kate when you've heard about sexuality motherhood whether whether some of the things will come here - like what do you typically hear? I honestly it's never really come up simply because so many women lose their identity as a woman once they become a mother they almost shed there. There are other identities of being a career woman for being a woman herself when they become a mom their entire identity. It's wrapped around motherhood a lot of women allow that to happen and then you're all goal to find their sexuality and get in touch with their sexuality again. I know I did after I became a mom. I wanted nothing. Thing to do with anything with my husband's and then after my second divorce, I actually had a Boudoir shoot then with the female who I still speak to today. Thank you. This was five years ago now but I still speak to her today because like you Lee said she was able to open that door for me and build that rapport with me to help me get Touch with my identity as a woman, but I struggled a lot with body issues. Well as feelings of like guilt and failure and inability to do it all like we see so often that mothers have to do they have to be all of these things and if we're not we're faulted for it. You're all of these things but sexual once you become sexual you have Loose morals or there's some weird, you know conversation that goes along with it. And that's what we are exactly trying to break here now with you Katie. So you've been married for a while to over the years? How have you dealt with getting older being married maintaining that spark and that self-love? I honestly think one because they are, you know, we have husbands that are gone a lot. So it's like they come home and you get that butterfly Feeling Again where you've missed them and you've had to send videos and pictures over to them and pray to God that that shit doesn't go viral. But I think I don't I feel like we do a really good job. I'm like my thing is is like we used to have sex at least three days a week. Like that's my like, well, I won't some days I want to turn it down. So I feel like I have the higher sex drive out of the two of us. But now I feel like we're changing. I don't know if that's a totally different thing like in our age if I'm going through menopause or something but like like my sex drive going down and he's like harassing me and I'm like fuck. All right, there is no way you're going through. Got a pause. You're like 20 something. I'm the 30s. You look 20 something. Welcome. Thank God no panty recent like a my thing is like I want to keep that part of our marriage like football and sex. I'm like gotta have it. I think the perfect marriage football and sex. Yes, and we don't want any more kids. I'm like, oh perfect. But it is its heart like some days it's just like shit, but then the other day he's going to leave again and he'll be gone for nine months. So I mean Master 4% 4% of mothers. You self-pleasure as a tool of salsa, but that's the thing though when it comes to Motherhood. That's also something that's never talked about. It is normal. It is normal 84 percent of mothers prior to 84% Guess what the statistics States it's You have this large percentage of the population. Who are unarmed saying the words and I'm sure I'm already turning some people off in the podcast right now, but I'm going to say again masturbate. It's it's normal. It is completely normal for several reasons for one and not only release endorphins in your brain, which can help with postpartum depression. But also it helps relieve stress. In stressing about stress is motherhood is it's a huge indication of your mental health. Well stress and single motherhood. I can't imagine my stress level if I didn't masturbate because working Oak. I'm doing the mom thing alone going to school full-time doing the podcast web pages with you guys and taking on a second job here soon. Possibly it Hi, my stress levels are through the roof right now. So without it. Nope, I need it coping skill. It really is and you know, what for some reason for guys it's normalized. For young women maybe a little more normalized but across the board. You never hear about it with motherhood. It's really not normal for moms for women actually because I get I bet I'm just going to ask did any of you guys ever have somebody talk to you when you were a teenager about masturbating? No, no. No what my girlfriend said, you know, we we already know that I'm sorry. I'm going on a tangent here. Love you. Thank you for letting me do. We already know that teenagers want to have sex right but we don't want them to have sex. Okay, so we want we know teenagers want to know why why wouldn't you encourage them to masturbate, you know, and so there I'm like that that's brilliant that makes perfect sense. Why are we not talking to teenagers about masturbating if we know that their bodies want to have sex and we don't want them that have, you know teen pregnancies or what not why? Are we not talking to girls about masturbation and I was like, she said that and I was like you are so right. I haven't even thought about I mean that's something that is just women specific like periods menstrual cycles. That's also something in the background. We have to be ashamed of it. I remember my mom talking with me about periods and I was so mortified. I was mortified and I felt like I had to hide everything to me. Use something as stupid as opening the the pad rapper Mike. It's so loud. Everyone's going to know everyone will know right now and then and then you you put it in the trash can but like put a lot of toilet paper over it so they don't see something in the trash after you leave. Oh my gosh, and it's like everyone does it but for some reason you have that it's just like and talk about it, but we should and and I was about to leave the house to go to my boyfriend. So she's like hey, I got you something whatever so awkward. Whatever. Grab my purse and I go to walk out the door. She goes. Wait a second. Let me see your purse make sure it's not an you shouldn't want me using it like with him, right? What are you talking about? Mama likes in my prayers, it's not there. It's all good. It was in my room. But oh my gosh, that was so awkward for me and my mom like to talk about anything now, but that was so awkward for me because none of those conversations about and they should have and So here's the question. I want to shoot back to so we say you got girls. How are you going to approach this conversation? I'm just curious. I see I only have a boy and I know Katie he only has a boy too. So as grandma really have to worry about one penis. Yeah, so Lisa, how are you going to have this conversation with your girls talking about their body and self love. I think this is a really important to add in some compensation as well because there's going to be listeners out there who are in the same boat whose daughters are older and there? R-right there at that cusp. Yeah. Well, so it's hard to say exactly how I'm going to handle it because I have some time but I feel like in my own way. I'm trying to already work on that in the sense of all three of my kids my son included. They know what Boudoir is they know that I take pictures of women of moms are friends. They know I have my own She's up and I'm just kind of my goal is to normalize the body in general and that's a big push that I have with my my clients as well is put these pictures up like why should your kids be idolizing people? They don't know they should be idolizing you and that's a huge part that I think is so important, you know, your kids are gonna see people half naked all the time even when they just Go to the beach. I mean Hawaii it was you know, nobody's has clothes on and so why should you why shouldn't they see you in that same way? So that's huge. That's a big thing with my girls for sure. But honestly, I will tell you I will probably have someone in my family mostly talk to my girls about sex and I'll tell you why because I have a great relationship with my mom. She will listen to this podcast I guarantee you and there. No way. I would have talked to her about sex in high school because I did not want to be prevented from having sex in high school if that makes sense. So the idea of talking to her about it made me worried that my time with my boyfriend who is now my husband would have been taken away. I was worried that because there was so many chances that we had that we were alone. I was worried that would be taken away or that things would become more strict or somebody would always have to be with us when we were doing something. So it had nothing to do with my mom it. To do with me not wanting things to change and so like I already had like the sex talk with my knees who might I know that like my sister and her doing that yet. So I was like, do you know what an STD is? Let me tell you and so we went down so I went down that road with her. So I'm as much as I want my girls to, you know have a lot of self love and and love their body for exactly the way it was made and all of those Those things I think the I think I'm going to really rely on some of my girl power friends to help with the sex talks because I think that they will be more receptive to hearing somebody other than Mom which I just I just think will be the biggest thing and and so normalizing body so that women can holder their friends daughters aside and talk to them about it. I think it's going to be huge for all of us. Village to raise a child. It really does. I really like what you just said Lisa because I had about having this conversation with my kids and the point that you brought up were very valid. I think that I would have felt the exact same way when talking to my mom granted. She's one of my best friends now I can absolutely anything about everything and she supports what no questions asked. But I think that I would have reacted the same way to bring that up to me when I was younger having two girls. Now. I have my best friends. I would absolutely love to have this conversation with my kids for me. I could be president. It makes them more comfortable, but they absolutely I love her too. She's got two girls of her own and a little boy. So I really like your point of having a friend do it for you not as a cop out as a way for your child to be more comfortable and maybe more open less prevalent in and it can be an addition in addition to whatever you're going to be talking to them about to I'm definitely not saying don't talk to them. But I do think that there is something to be said for someone else. Else getting maybe more out of her child in that Comfort just because you are Mom and so I think that that I think having you know, like you said it takes a village to raise a child having people help you in that is so important. I agree. Can you guys hear me? I can hear you. So okay first yours Nikki has like three little ones at home and then she's got her in-laws over and her husband all of the background. So like she's been Super Trooper but staying with us throughout the show. Yeah, that's that's motherhood. That's life is unpredictable. It's messy. Oh my God, my phone died. So I get the charger and then my 6 month old saw me and started crying. So now the love Mom life. Well, all of the husbands are screwing up lately million more orders losing wine bottle openers. This is crazy girl. The husband's out. I don't know. Mine's gone for a week. So I'm good. Hey - upstairs. I divorced my minor Gone Gone. Can you guys tell me Bob? Yes. Yeah, my mom started calling me. So the only know that being said ladies. and then Say it loud is it again? I'm making more people blood but really where this conversation is going to take its by having other people in doing so it's not just listening to the podcast. It's not just clicking for those of other people. It's having conversations particularly with your friends. Since I turned 30, I started having a lot more conversations about money and about sex and my sex life with those around me and honestly that is helped me tremendously because it has shown me that. I'm feeling so far all of our viewers out there want you to engage in conversations post comments on the video thread and let us know if that's really how we're going to review this Avenue and with each of my co-host that I have here tonight. I'm going to offer them some clothes so for paint. Thank you so much for We're hosting with us tonight and whether it whether you're closing words or first off, thank you guys for listening. Sorry. I was needed for a second. Thank you guys all for listening and for ladies for joining. I did want to just make a couple of points that there have been a few studies that really show the more the perception of the Cars and women who are in touch with their sexuality and a lot of them say that the more sexual a woman is person. I used to be the less. She is seen as a good mother. We that state we need to make sure that that statement doesn't hold true. We've been fighting we kind of have already started. I mean in the 80s there were movies that started to our strong female leads. And since then it has really those female leads to have gone into roles where their characters are more in touch with their sexuality. So it's actually becoming a really good talking point. Now though, there aren't many studies and surveys that that reflect this as a society ourselves. We need to make sure that we are as women in touch with our sexuality and destroying these things putting a The guilt in that failure and the pressures of having it all and the views of others. They impact our self-esteem our self-worth or even our self-image. We need to make sure that we are finding that validation within ourself in promoting our own sexuality and not being afraid to break those barriers. I couldn't agree more we are Our Own Worst Enemy when it comes to others and we are going to be the Catalyst that actually breaks through. And normalize this so we get more women and engaging in the conversation couldn't agree more Katie. Our fellows go host. What are your parting words of wisdom for the seat your final Thoughts with out there and get yourself a vibrator lady Snow's getting married. Talking and how about it girls? Oh and yeah, Adam and Eve also has this like We Vibe where you can sync it up to your phone and your partner who is I don't know deployed maybe roll it himself with his phone. Perfect. Add it to the laundry routine real fun real fun guy. I'm still with you, but it's I don't know if you can hear me. I can hear you now. Okay, what are your parting thoughts for tonight? I don't know. It's okay. I don't know I wasn't prepared for that question. I don't know. I was just listening because I was out for most of the conversation or not most of it. But yeah, my phone died and then seeing Rick. He has a baby. So it was just like breastfeeding her second help. But you know what? That's a good parting word to have normalizing breastfeeding absolutely breasts are not sexual when you when you are breastfeeding. It is normal. Let me go that's actually a huge thing. I was gonna say about that. That's like a really big stigma heater women have been so over sexualized in our specially in the western culture that Very thought of seeing a woman's breasts other women get offended or insecure about it. And it's insane to me. It's absolutely normal. It's not a sexual function part of your body. It's in your babies and that's what they were created for and it blows my mind that people don't know that but that's the other thing too. Like I said, we can be Our Own Worst Enemy or we could be normal. and then lastly I'm going to You have done so much to not only normalize human body whether it be down but also to empower women to take back their sexuality and to normalize it and create a healthy image for younger women who are going through these stages of severing their bodies and finding who they are. So with that I would like for you to explain a new project that Working on and I'm pretty excited about and then we will end with you tonight. Thank you. And thanks so much for having me on the show. I hope to come back again because all of these sick they're super passionate six of my I will say I wanted to Circle back really quick and just say cuz you had asked me what would I tell moms who are too scared to book a session a Boudoir session and I never touched on that and just I would go back to the that everybody is scared. Everybody is jumping so you just got to do it and feel free to reach out if we're all in different states. I mean, yes come to Seattle and come to my Boudoir room and I will rock your socks off or find a Boudoir photographer in your area and talk to them and they will pump you up to but um, what would he was talking about is I'm launching a brave company. It is called The Naked City. And it is all about body empowerment women men. I want my first two shirts already and what says that they get society and the other says get naked and they'll be a lot of different things on there, but I'm super pumped about it because it's also all the products are going to be giving back to the house, which is a local nonprofit organization that helps homeless teenagers and homeless teenagers with babies. He's and all the horrible stuff. So I'm super excited about that and in general like my closing thoughts, you know, you guys were just bringing up breastfeeding and I would say like I tell people I'm super passionate about what the woman body can do. I'm passionate about what you can do with our time and passionate about breastfeeding being pregnant birth all of those things and normalizing all of those things normalizing birth. Using feeding baby super passionate about all of those things. So you guys if you are not feeling the support you need those categories, you need to find your community. I don't like to use the word tribe because some people don't love that word and that's okay. So I try to say find your community find your people. If you are not being supported by the people who are around you you need to surround yourself with other people. As there is an endless network of women out there that will support use of your journey and you got to find your community. Couldn't dream work. So to all of my drinking mommy's here tonight. We really appreciate you joining us for our like chiffon cast. We are going to have a weekly show where we are going to take on controversial topics every week and they're only controversial because you know what people just don't want to talk about them, but we are all about normally reside here. We are normalizing things that honestly we talked about It's all of you. Thank you for your support. We look forward to seeing you in for next week. We'll be announcing our church on Wednesday. So all my co-hosts, thank you so much for joining me this evening. It has been an absolute president between the ears.
For our pilot podcast episode, the Drinking Mommies founders (Whitney, Caitlin, Nicole and Katy) discuss the controversial world of sexuality post-motherhood with guest co-host Lisa Bruce (owner of Lisa. J. Bruce Photography and the Naked Society). While Lisa is a gifted photographer in many aspects, it's her work behind the camera during boudoir photo shoots that we dive into most as we hear stories of moms gaining confidence and reclaiming their sexuality through Lisa's work. Join us in this important conversation that aims to break the social norms around sex and motherhood with humor, wine, and real world conversations. We would love to hear your thoughts, personal experiences, and see the mom community talking about sexuality on a more open basis by engaging us online on Facebook, Instagram, or YouTube at Drinking Mommies. 