Boys and girls, welcome back to the inspiration space where today I got to speak to George Crews and Dom de Sao Jorge cruising from Davy don't know they are two very well-known professional rugby players Dom is from Wales. He's been around the block. He's been some amazing clubs. He's now it's saracens with George Who Who obviously is an England hero as I mean, I watch for years. He also played for the British and Irish lions and is you know, one of the best second rows in the world? So yeah for me to sit in the gym have a chat with these boys about their passion project, which is obviously their company for five which is CBD oil created by athletes for athletes. They contacted me about a month and a half ago and kind Obviously new of CBD oil and heard about it and I just naturally in all honesty somebody who has never really smoke marijuana hasn't really enjoyed it when it when I have in the past when I was in my sort of teenagers and 20s uni or whatever it never really appealed to me. So from from the office. Yeah, there's this stigma which we talk a lot about in this episode around CBD oil and how it's kind of linked with marijuana obviously being from the cannabis plant. It's like to really educate yourself and trying it like I did I you know, I've been on Z bill for the last six weeks and to realize really what an unbelievable product is in the grand scheme of things. For example, a lot of people myself included take it to reduce anxiety and stress like everyone either, you know, relatively stressful and sad points anxiety for your job and Something that I've taken in the evening, this product is for five product. They've kindly gave me to try out and yeah, it has an unbelievably relaxing effect on me. Not the point where I'm sort of like Mom doubt. It just reduces that that stress level 2 up to a degree where it just helps me calm and switch off in the evening. And that is one of the common things I speak to about from, you know people my age are in the 20s and 30s. Is that that difficulties kind of switch off from their day-to-day activity? So more than anything that for me is what is coming and done such a fantastic job of doing so that now without doubt. This is not a sales pitch. This is quite simply, you know, a part of my of my daily habits now and yeah, it's something that I'm definitely doing going forward. Also, you know, it's a really really good tool for four people more like the Everyday Athlete for pain inflammation all the all These things but what I do want you to do is don't don't have that initial stigma towards this CBD oil guys. It's it's you know, it's understandable. He kind of this. Yeah, you know think drug you think you know smoking a joint in the street. It's not like that. So I do encourage you to go away do your research on it. Maybe trial it I'll leave the link to four five four fives. Website in my show notes. Also George is Happy enough George and Dom. Sorry. I happy enough to give us a cheeky little discount code which I will also leave in the show notes, but just for you here. It is f45 Oxford 20. So every five Oxford 20, I was going to also circus in there, but it was too long. But yeah, George is commonly a Georgian dorm of kind. Giving us this discount code. So yeah get stuck into that more than anything. Just try like guys is a really really great tool. If you specially if you have a things, you know levels of anxiety and stress. It just helps you switch off. But yeah, it's a good story this uh, Dom and George have been a pink eyes. I've watched for years and it was just moving anything great to speak to these layers the top fellows and I really enjoyed again the chance to get to know them and hearing about their their sort of vision and passion for this for five CBD Oil Company. You have a fantastic day guys get stuck into this. And as always I will see you and speak to you soon. Anyway boys first things first. I want to say a massive. Thanks for coming down to I've watched you two guys over the years plenty. Obviously, I'm sorry span known Jamie. And yeah, I hope you're enjoying your season after a mega mega season. How was it? How was the experience how you feeling now? Is it nice to have a couple of months off a couple months off we wish Why don't you get off we get five weeks in total, but I think like there's a there's an expectation you come back in reasonably good shape, you know, you don't want to come back like a doable, but but it's so like the last couple weeks you'll be doing a bit of training. And so yeah, you get you get five weeks off. But yeah, it's been a man of season with with obviously we did the double which was something with yeah something we're properly proud of We actually we've done the double double but it's the they're not usual things to do. So so sometimes you got to what firstly you've definitely got a celebrate it properly. But yeah, I think the best thing probably be due to do right now probably introduce yourself separately little bit of your background on your careers and then almost let's just get straight onto how you guys came across CBD oil. And how you going to start this company? I think that would be the best place to start from the start Joshua don't some tea. I'll go fish introduce myself. So don't they obviously I'm at saracens bleep lay there with George been there for last couple years started in Wales. Obviously as you can tell by my accent, I'm sure there's a deep valley. I'm so afraid in Wells a few years moves on to bath when Ron the world been in Japan Australia. And then yeah, I'm back in back in Sunny London playing saracens, which is awesome. Absolutely, you sell shoes. I got slightly probably more boring set up. I left school went straight to series and that's pretty much it. Yes in John's and love. Yeah, not yet to travel to a time when we've been a fair few places both with club and Country. But yeah, I'm I've been to a different club yet. So I think I don't want you to the main. So yeah, I mean from from all the research I've done you guys obviously behavior for how long but two years two years now. Yeah, we played against each other in the Premiership after bit as well. So yeah. Yeah just a little bit. We'll see and yeah, yeah, so I was struggling to injury a time. And as you are you in a different sort of mindset when you're injured now, I was sort of looking for every which way this will give myself an edge to get back to get back as fast as possible stumble across CBD online was reading a few papers read some some really positive things all anecdotal but was really positive and that and that's when I thought thought you know, I'm going to give this a go give it a go and it seemed to help my symptoms that I had with with with certain problems. I was having and then after that George George is injury sort of happened at a similar time. I actually did what I did my other ankle. I'm I know I'm currently in a boot for my other ankle. But but yeah, he had an operation on my left ankle and for me it was Trying to Target a better lock recovery program. So the sleep was a massive thing for me looking up kind of trying to get a better quality sleep was massive looking at especially when you when you're injured you trained kind of 6 6 times a week, you know, it's a pretty bleak existence been professional and been been injured you really put in the hours and so definitely for me. It was more about targeting. I've got a better recovery through sleep and that's definitely something I Ah, I've benefited from but what was interesting as well reading about what your experience dogmas that you tried it? You didn't tell your physio the time and he and he started to notice less. It was letting you less inflammatory everywhere recoveries the result to be hard with. Yeah. So look there's a stigma around around CBD around where it comes from. So I was I was a bit sketchy about telomere physio first. Kept it to myself. He noticed that I was my signals are getting better. I was improving I was recovering. So I sort of changed up. I came off CBD and symptoms came back took it again Sydney's went away. And that's how I sort of got sold on it initially. I was like, there's one thing changed in here and that is me taking taking this natural product. And yeah, it was brilliant and I was sold out that up. So that was Jenna. Yeah, but what about a year and a half ago? Important message that I want to get from this podcast today and I'm sure save you guys isn't your right that stigma around. obviously I have this stigma around it maybe would be great. If you can kind of break down really what CBD is why it's not like smoking a joint and such. I think that let's just get angry. It's kind of really breaking down. What's the difference? Obviously THC is a big fastened around its maybe if you just break it down a little bit for this. For sure, I think you if you take a normal cannabis plant. It's fairly high in THC. So THC is the stuff that gives you that the psychoactive the the stuff that all kind of make you high. So we take the the hemp plant which is naturally low in THC further to that. We extract a lot of the THC out. So we've got two products one a flat line 0 THC which is for are tested athletes, but we've also got a full spectrum. Product which has Trace Amounts of THC so below zero point 2 by law. So only Trace Amounts and it's really about distinguishing between those two plants, I think and how you how you get your product from the hemp plant, which is already low in THC. Okay. So what do you think are the first kind of steps in in order to get out there and break this stigma? I mean, I've started to see CBD pop up all over the shop now. But yours I believe is the only CBD oil which has zero THC. So there's lots which have zero THC but but as athletes who get properly tested, you know, we get drugs tested how many times we've been drug tested this year? Yeah, like five six times. Yeah. So again, I've been tested six times this year. So you got to be completely assured of what you're taking. So we are the first CBD product to be cross-contaminated tested. And substances by BSC G which is a drugs test control group and for us that's huge. It allows us to go to the players and give them a genuine option to know that there are pretty safe taken our product. And is it people think that because I mean there are obviously so many benefits. I'm going to ask you about them but as athletes and especially Rob got these people, you know, you guys like I said the human resource running each other you've had to play and deal with pain for your whole careers. I mean the impact of having something to turn to which isn't a prescribed. I'm sure we'll get on to putting a prescribed medication prescribed painkillers. Could you talk to us? Obviously you've had to deal with my papers because you're going to stumble across TBD what for you is that is the kind of main difference between the two I mean prescribed painkillers and secretly I mean, is there anything that you feel lonely day to day basis? Yeah, I mean You know, obviously CD two hundred percent natural organic is essentially a plant. So first of all, you're not putting any chemicals into your body is all 100% natural and you know, like you said we've had a lot of experiences with prescribed drugs, you know, all all you want to do in your rugby players get out there and play and when you're injured you'll do you'll do what you need to do to get out and play whether it's taken anti-inflammatories. They can painkillers and all that fuss. part and parcel of the game sometimes because you're trying to pay the bills you trying to get out there trying to get contracts and and win games essentially, but we've sort of managed to switch it up and take this organic natural product, which essentially is is doing great things for us and and helping our symptoms and and it's just brilliant and we're sold out in massively so Talk me through how you personally take it. So you kindly sent me a sample, which is funny. I just came off the back of it. It's not it's not professional. We had to go around things seven seven times. So my body was the thought stream. It was honestly man. And the next night I put a couple drops because I had the spray. Yeah, I had a couple of couple sprays on the time and to be honest with all these things if I mean to be honest, like like anything that's people approach me with I kind of go in not expect anything. So yeah, that's way to approach it and I'm telling you like I was so unbelievably chilled like it relaxed me so much. Finding the person I like to three nights and finally got really good quality AR sleep relax. I thought I woke up feeling refreshed and most importantly for her passion. Well, we're doubling first time in a couple days. I'm glad you did great. I think he's great. I had the chance to try it myself before. Yeah. Awesome. So yeah back to my question. I mean the process the you guys obviously taking me that would be interesting for me to hear in regards to you know, do you do you take it during the day like to take it before training like my own experience with it is simply just to try and relax. I feel like what are you kind of go into a state due to that before you train? I mean probably not I would have who both different. So yeah, I mean I take mine like I said for sleep rather than Yeah, rather than anything else because I know that when I'm when I've had a good sleep fussing I'm a lot less grouchy but I feel I feel a lot better state. So for me, it's about targeting that and I'll have maybe three sprays before before bed and I won't use it everyday. It will be more when I'm when I'm looking to Target cuz I do sleep a lot of time generally quite well, but if I want to promote a better one than than our Target that no, I'm not not not particularly. It's something our I'll take maybe three times a week pre some of the the bigger training session days. Yeah, so I think every day every day twice a day three times a day and I know I do think it twice a day every day because I'm a bit old and George bit more whether to probably Yeah tough paper on but not much much that you take all people would take a multivitamin. That's how I see they can see really I take it morning and night obviously to help me sleep and just sort of to help me get up there and get through the obviously trainings pretty physical and tough these days and as I get older, I feel like I need something to sort of helped me get through it. So touching on both those points you takes the which I find really fascinating. I don't feel like I could Nick little elves before he's this league coach. We've done some stuff as professional sports teams in Puerto. Madryn Cristiano Ronaldo and all this stuff. He works on their sleep and he remembers being Tim on the podcast and he was like what's really frightening is that there's all these prescribed sleep aid of the financial status of that ended of that sector is frightening and but the negative impact of those drugs have And it's I think hope I mean you guys also have a business that does that really fucking excite you the fact that something like this which doesn't have detrimental effects in the long run can potentially have a definitely will have a much better sustainable impact on people sleep. Naturally. I mean that must be extremely extremely exciting. Yeah. I look for our point of view were a food supplement. So it is quite hard for us to talk about other drugs and medical and medical claims as such but Us being an athlete looking at you know, different Alternatives towards those sort of things and having something which is very natural, you know, it strikes everything that we want to be kind of getting onto an especially like Dom said you do a lot and you you do a lot to get yourself to, you know to be up to play and stuff. So to have something which is a bit more natural for me. It's a no-brainer really and then move on to what you say Dom so In terms of just feeling better and more. You said she was saying you'll be able to perform better due to better recovering essentially. So they're less inflammatory mean. Is that is I mean that that's extremely exciting as well the fact that you don't have to pump. I mean I was reading about Lewis moon in the fact that you taking so many painkillers over the year. You've had some some gutter shoes. I mean replacing these Bankers was such a CBD we can't go masterly into the sort of medical size and touch base on that but your This huge exciting because it's a market that that we that we think is going to grow hugely and people are really going to adopt and you know, those are the reasons that we think people are going to sort of start moving over to this sector and and take a natural product that's going to give them the same sort of benefits similar benefits. So he's questioned spin on its head because like I said, I like to come in with an open mind and anyone listening to this podcast, you know, I really wanted to hear all angles. Is there a time that people really You shouldn't be taking this CBD oil. I mean from my experience from anything any research done. Is it is there really? No. I mean what essentially what it is? They're not the time to be taken. Like I think that as were saying that you should always kind of speak to your doctor and your you know, your nutritionist before you take anything like this, but it's for us it's got a really good safety profile and that's come, you know come from above board. It's as a product. It's yeah, it's got a really healthy safety product safety profile. So I but yeah, I think there's there's dosages and things that you want to stick to and not go above we suggest don't go above a hundred mgs of CBD a day. The the guideline from from above is don't go above 200 mg. So it's yeah, like I said, it's got a real decent safety profile and there's nothing really at the moment, sir. Justin otherwise so in terms of the company. I mean how long you guys been working on this together? It's probably a year. No. Yeah everybody. Yeah must be quite exciting working on this project and kind of I mean, what was it like kind of getting over the line getting that approval from what was the body said the BSU? Yeah. I mean, what was that was that touching go was a long process but was a long expensive painful process, but it was good like it's CBO. It's like it was russets. It was it was something we knew we had to because we can offer. I mean our Target audiences active people but a large part of obviously what we do is is we were other players and professionals we get drugs tested. So we knew we had to kind of come up with a problem solver problem that a lot of professionals at the moment whether it's you know Olympians whether it's footballers rugby players across the board. There's a lot of people Who are definitely interested in taking CBD but a little bit tentative because of things I've read or because of you know, the link with cannabis. So for us it's about kind of knowledge expanding the knowledge on the subject and providing a genuine option which not only players but nutritionist coaches and and testing bodies are completely satisfied with I'm interested to see where you think and how I think this stigma will kind of be eradicated. I mean like you said it's all down to education. It's like anything. like I'm trying to think of loads of places there's tons of examples out there but like it's almost like I was used to refer to sleep as an example just to just example, like like napping is has a stigma around it in our culture today like it especially in my corporate culture like our God you went for a nap and we this is something very very different but Then in order for its go to a new level like really needs to be it's like said the educated on the topic of cvd is I mean, what do you think? Hopefully the steps will be? Yeah. I mean, first of all a lot of the a lot of is anecdotal a minute that you'll get you Google CBD oil and you'll see all these sort of amazing stories of whatever happening, but I think now or now that it is getting a lot more mainstream. There's a lot more sort of Trials happening think that's going to help massively, you know, just just sort of the science behind it is is come to the fore so all that sort of stuff and you know, look, I can't even convince my dad to take seemed like yes, it's a hundred percent. Yeah, and you know, he's still not home percent sure what we're doing here. So I'm pretty sure wants once I convinced my dad then you're not. Drug dealer. Yeah, once I convinced him. Everyone's going to be good to your what also something. I love. Beyond pretty want to touch on is I'm always really touched on in my podcast is the impact that this stuff. I think it have one not just physical or just sleeping like your mental mental mental health. I think it like I'm a very anxious character. I mean, I'll get pretty stressed with this job. Sometimes just you know, we're not the six in the morning, you know back to sleep 11:30 at night and my sneakers affected has definitely benefited that but more than anything find it. I've noticed this week like wines. Xiety levels of just being really really like chilled and I'm much more focused. So I'm hoping I'm really hoping that that part I know this leaves indefinitely because be better because the CBO I'm really hoping that that specifically the mint that's what anxiety my anxiety levels isn't anything to like this procedure or anything like that because I'm really super like calm like I'm not I'm not I'm very like erratic as a human being I'm just launched a lot more chill and what I notice actually the other night I took it from her to bed. I actually And I just was really really super focused. It's weird. Like I wish that time anomaly like a zombie but I just I noticed my anxiety levels dropped and I should do like another like 45 minutes now work but really good solid quality work. So I'm hoping that's not to say though. This is not a paid ad yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think speaking about personal experiences is like yeah, for sure. I think we again it's what you take it the night before a game obviously. Yeah, I'll take you out to get night before game happily it from our point of view again. It's talking about anxiety and stuff. Like that is a touchy subject in terms of medical claims and things like that. But definitely our customer base, you know a good chunk of them are kind of young fit people who, you know take that into account and and And use use it because of that so it's for us. It's like we're take on board all feedback. And yeah, we're dead happy with some of it. So I mean the next 12-18 months. I mean what have you got on the agenda for this also personally like next season like toast a little bit couple of things are going on with the business and you know your careers as well. Yeah who solve probably is back to salaries. Here's some different points throughout Korea. I'm probably not Off retire myself. So CBD will be coming to the Forefront for me. Yeah. Yeah. Look we're working on some exciting stuff as well. Obviously, we just released our zero for athletes, but aside from that we got a lot of really exciting things to be released over the next few months. So a couple more product releases sort of really pushing this out as much as possible and then someone's got possible possible World Cup. That he's got to get something to do as well. Yeah. Yeah, so I mean look, we're in the next few weeks and I woke up camp so looking to look forward to seeing how that goes. Obviously. We you know, we had a exactly our issue of my foot on my own but it's it's good timings work out well and it was a it was a kind of a decision based on you know, what we've got in front of us to get it done now. So yeah, I'm probably pumped for what lies ahead I think we really got a good group England which kind of galvanizing well, obviously a couple of poor halfs in the in the Six Nations, but aside from that it's you know, it's looking like a really well-built team that have been together for kind of four years now and experience that the pain of a previous poor World Cup. So yeah, that's so excited for it. Yeah, it's gonna be good. I can we go from we're gonna get blood. He's projector. Do not cancel classes for ya. But ya boys, I really Are you coming down? You know, I've got members down here and people that I know that this stuff could directly benefit on a daily basis. So yeah, I'm very very keen and excited to kind of help I would always end with looking to find ways to help them in. This is definitely added onto the the spectrum of what I've what I'm going to introduce them. So once again, thanks very much coming down really appreciate time and all the best for the World Cup, and I'm looking forward to see what the future lies for CBD. And everything that about the grandma, thanks, but just Revenue.
CBD oil seems to have come from nowhere. Naturally there is a stigma around it as it is extracted from the cannabis plan. A lot of people initially view it as a something that gets you high and sloppy rather than something that can benefit you in ways that positively support a busy and stressful day to day work life. Dom Day has been playing professional rugby for 14 years with over 250 top flight games to his name. Starting in Wales, his career took him to England, Japan, Australia and he now plays for English Premiership club Saracens. Dom was also a key part of the Wales national side throughout the 2015/16 season, including playing in the 2015 World cup. George Kruis has been playing professional rugby for 10 years and is a seasoned international and British Lion. He has over 150 appearances for Saracens winning 2 European titles and 3 Premiership trophies. Between them they have 20 years experience in professional sport and have been under the surgeon's knife 12 times. They have played and trained through pain and injury more often than they would have liked. They've used cbd as part of their daily routine during their rugby careers. It helps them maintain a healthy lifestyle throughout the highs and lows of professional sport. Now they want to spread the word about the benefits of cbd, and how as founders of fourfive, they are committed to offering the highest grade cbd products available, specifically designed to help you maintain an active lifestyle. 