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We're talking all about it here on Bachelorette a pre-show you are tuned in to AfterBuzz TV the ESPN of tv top now let the ladies and gentlemen, welcome to better after Sjogren's AfterBuzz TV Ranae and I are doing our best to be Susie aesthetic because we love this show I love this show but I don't know if we love this episode right now. I need it this episode very much what happens I'm nothing. That is the problem. We're not alone. We'll get into it later the episode but Bachelor nation is not happy. I didn't think anything could surpass the hatred for Luke P this season we've seen online, but I think the producers might be getting more hate than Luke P has this whole season. Just how did this happen thankfully some stuff. Kind of happened before the catastrophe that was the last hour of this episode. But like whoever produced this needs to be fired and I hate saying that but like who who did who thought of this we'll get it. All of our thoughts are just a minute guys. We should introduce ourselves though before we just get on a soapbox. Oh, yeah guys, my name is Jeff Graham. Thank you so much for tuning in. This is AfterBuzz TV. If this is your first time tuning in we are the ESPN of TV talk and we are here every week to recap The Bachelorette this week. We're talking about episode 6 for those will see the When Eric was his calling this an episode feels generous, but I'm joined by the always hilarious and always on the ball, right Ariel the ball. Hey guys, it's Ranieri. Oh, thanks for tuning in every week. I tried to do what you did there because you always have a longer introduction than me. I always just say hey guys. Hey guys, it's Jeffrey Graham. Welcome back to AfterBuzz. Here's the question. Are we wasting more time on this panel or did ABC Waste more of our time on this episode truly? We could sit here the the entire episode tonight in total silence, and I think they would get more out of this more content that may be singing this tonight. Well, as you guys always kind of a two-parter, I would say the first part was in episode was an episode of television. It was mostly sorry. I'm just reading the chat y'all are cracking me up. It was mostly Petty drama where the guys argued about whether or not Luke's war or promised that he wouldn't bring up any of the guys names and the second half was truly and honestly a recap Some of which was insultingly the thing we had seen 20 minutes before it was recap for us. There's a TC actually think we're stupid because I know they recap the episode which mind you wasn't even a full episode every cops. Are they like? Um, are they do they know what happened in 5 episodes? Yes. Yes ABC we do. Well, what was crazy was not only were they recapping that but then they were like, well, let's get into the more serious part. And I got is it and I was just like are you kidding? Why are we talking about Hannah's acne? Like I mean great question. Truly. I feel like we'd look up who produced this whole episode of reject. It's just Chris Harrison's like first episode will be producing. He's like, I want to sit down with Hannah. Just getting to the nitty-gritty. Yeah, it was horrible. Okay. Well, we like some of it and you know, we always treat this week you guys know we love this show. Yeah, and the way we're going to have this right now, we are still super fans, but sometimes it's like your child let you down. Hungry just feel very disappointed by your behavior this week The Bachelorette. So that's why we're scolding you. Yeah, our kid like dropped out of school are kid dropped out of school this week and Guy high and couldn't remember what happened 20 minutes before I'm gonna get the chat up as red as pulling up the check because y'all are cracking us up this week. I need to experience this with everyone but let's start by talking about the episode as a whole so we catch right back up with Luke P. We don't know whether or not this is probably the most substantive part of The episode right? Yeah, we are just seeing more of Luke piece Behavior. I'll be interested to hear your take Renee but during the end of this one-on-one when Hannah is debating whether or not to give him the rose. It felt very much. Like Luke was just repeating what Hannah was saying to try to get her to give him the rose. That's literally what he's been doing this entire season, if you ever listen to what Luke P says, it's okay. For example, Hannah could be like, I just want someone who listens to me and is there for me and Luke goes out? I want to be someone who listens to you and is there for you and Hannah's like oh, like don't just say things. You want me to here it goes. I'm never gonna say you think that you just want to hear he literally said that and he's still wait Renee. Can you ask can you tell me that you want to see me get upset? I want to see you get upset Jeff. Wait a minute Renee. Yeah. I just want to yell. I'm just gonna yell right here. That's all I wanted. Do but he's studied. He's like one outside quick Google people upset need like they yell. Should I go back in and say I want to go I will say I don't I have a different take on you than look P. I think you are more with Bachelor Nation where you kind of feel like, he's Full Tilt psychopath. You have a different Take On Me than Luke PO, is it look at it and reverse it. I'm like, I hope so. I have a dip or I think you and loopy are very similar same person. He's my spirit. Taylor Swift and Luke here your two Heroes We're getting silly tonight because Bachelor because I just quickly, I'm sorry. I have to rent I do feel like the producers just flipped us a big ol middle finger tonight. Do they want the show to get can I don't know this wasn't nonsense. This was truly nuts. We're going to get to it and it's just okay. So what I was going to say is I think you're more on Bachelor Nation side of the coin where you kind of feel like, he's Full Tilt manipulator Full Tilt psychopath. You just gathered that I just kind of think he feels very Truly undeveloped an immature like it does feel like he doesn't operate on the same emotional level is as people and it's because when Hannah is like I just want to see you get upset. He's like compute must prove. I am able to get upset Hannah. I am someone who do who is able to do the thing of getting upset with you? That's what I'm telling you. He's like, he's either an alien a sociopath or child. Yeah. No, but if he's attract, I still think he's a sociopath he does not know how to communicate. Anna Kate at he any think he just repeat he's like a parrot. Mmm. He's a he's a douchey parrot Hannah says something and he just repeat the back there and he keeps the same like kind of confused look on his face and you're like, wow Renee Jeff. I feel like you say this every week because literally he doesn't do anything new. That's true. Anyway, there's nothing more for us to add like tonight. He was just classic Luke p and Hannah sticking around trying to do what she can do. Megan in the chat. Okay, Megan Megan Cattlemen good to see you. Thanks for tuning in. She is a after buzzer and it's good to see you. So frustrated moment for me was all of this and that but here's why I think Luke isn't like a crazy manipulator. Why because then he gets back to the house and he's like very Earnest and open and honest about what happened. He's like, well, it was a terrible one on one. I'm not sure she likes me. I didn't get a rose and it's like he doesn't get it. No, that's not what happened to have. Okay, help me out he want Back to the house and he's like, you know, yeah, it didn't go well, but then we ended up where we should be and I didn't get a rose, but she wants me to stay around. He really did like level back up like but I'm still here. What's up guys? Hey bet you thought she sent me home. She did it. Yeah, you know, yeah, I didn't personally I didn't quite interpret it that way. I just feel like he truly is on his own Planet. I'm more halion child less manipulative sociopath like an alien who watched like one season of the But I can do this. Yeah an alien who watched one season of people existing and was like I can imitate people got this is Luke be just doesn't understand why everyone's upset with him. He need someone in the face is like what I think it's hard for us not to laugh spent 20 minutes of our night. I wore a suit tonight and I know I watched Anna talk about hers in him markets for 20 minutes. Thank you. You have no alcohol. I had a pizza human egg sandwich. This is just I don't know what to say about that. Why should I just ripped his pants? We watched Anna trees birds around Circle told us. This was an episode this episode. Okay, but here's the thing. I will say during the scene when looking back from the date because Hannah for whatever. It still hasn't sent him home tried and then let him stay because he said he wants to yell get back to the house and all the boys are arguing with each other. I love have been more annoyed and happy to be single then in this episode. Well, let's talk about how it happened. Garrett was the first conversation which was a mistake because we saw a different side of Garrett tonight aside that I'm not loving but he might redeem himself will get to that but basically Garrett want to go off to Talk to Hannah and he was like, he's like, you know, I want to get to know you better and I want to have we're trying really hard guys. We're live. It's hard sometimes because the steps but such a flaming pile of garbage Okay, so Okay, okay before we get into our next stop we're gonna transition and then we're going to come back together. Okay. Wow. 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So Garrett the first thing that he does is talk to Hannah. They have a little conversation about making steps and moving forward, but then Garrett gets right into it and he's like now I apologize in advance for what I'm about to do doesn't make it. Okay. Garrett doesn't make it okay. He gets gossipy and it's like so before Luke left for the one-on-one. I made sure in front of We wanted to ask are you not going to bring any of us up? Then? Luke got back from the one-on-one and I made sure again to ask in front of everyone. Are you not going to be my name up and he said he did it. So Hannah I need you to tell me did Luke say anyone else is name. Like why did you what mate did he drink a lot that night? I'm confused why he thought that was a good idea. Who what producer was like, hey, you should double-check and make sure Luke didn't say anything about you guys. I was so disappointed because you know, I think Garretson cutie Cutie that can't kiss but I do think he's a cutie and it really bum me out that he went such a bad route this episode just like the episode itself. They both took a metaphoric. Everyone is at their worst tonight including us. We forgot how to host. Yep, and it it just escalated Hana right from the start. I think was trying to give Garrett the benefit of the doubt but you could tell she was already frustrated then they went back into the room and everyone's talking and Garrett brings it up with Luke and he's like, hey so bad. I talked to Mom. And mom says that you did say my name even though you said you didn't say my name and you swore you promised and then what got really frustrating was Garrett wouldn't let it go and he's like I mean and I actually again I'm not defending Luke for those of you guys are gonna come at me and you guys say I feel like they've truly were giving Luca chance to even try to defend himself. Maybe he didn't deserve that chance and granted. I think Luke is just as long-winded as Garrett, but I'm going to position from here from this point the episode. To the Rose ceremony. I'm going to position Guerin and Luke is equally annoying and Petty. I disagree with you. I think in this moment everyone was so so annoying but this is what I think it was I think when you're dealing with someone so incredibly frustrating and manipulative and idiotic like Lucas you kind of get to a point and they reach their point where they just couldn't have it anymore and it got to like the Patty stuff where someone I think people bring out your crazy. I think Luke P being as crazy as he is. He also brings out all the other crazy and this episode and that's why I think we saw tonight because imagine if you're dealing with someone so irrational or like someone just lies blatant lie to your face and it's fine when you I don't know if see them at work or see them at school, but what if you're living in a house with them all the time and they don't stop like I think they just reached their breaking point but watching on TV was hard because they all look like idiots. They all did let's talk. About the only people who I think come out unscathed this episode Peter definitely not Chris Harrison will get to that because he loved you want to come on the podcast. We will bring you and I truly as a host. I do think Chris Harrison's very very good at his job. Maybe we can recap the episode with alrighty cap the recap of this. I mean so Peter. Yes, I think handled himself really. Well, we'll talk about specifically why in a minute Connor. I think he stayed out of it and Dustin nose ring Dustin nose-ring Dustin. And yet I think that but other than that, everyone's not no one's looking very good right now. They were really annoying. Wait. You said Connor and Tyler? I did Owen Tyler. Thank you for the five Connor Tyler Judd Dustin and Peter come out unscathed and Kevin even though he left the show Kevin. I just can't I can't really with Kevin either. Yeah, to be honest. This wasn't even the kind of drama that I like on The Bachelor because it was just hard to watch the only parts that I found like what's going to happen with one hand. I came in the room. And the fact she had to come in twice was just a lot. It's just awkward. It's like cringy. Well, let's talk about Hannah's Behavior. Do you think she handled herself? Well, amidst all the petty immature drama. So I'm going to go back to what I was telling you off camera when we were watching it. So Hannah kept trying to make it clear to the guys. Like I know what I'm doing. I'm a grown-ass woman said that she said that ABC aired that's why I feel like I can stand on our podcast for fun. I'm a grown-ass woman. Then and you know like trust that I can I can make decisions for myself if Luke if I think Luke is about personal sent him home. But like you have to trust that I can make those kinds of decisions on my own but the way she was saying it considering no one came out her saying hey, I don't think you can make decisions by yourself Hannah. Let me help you makes me think this is actually an insecurity thing and then it goes back to last week's episode when she literally says, I don't want to like him but I do and again I do think we've all been there where we Like someone we know we shouldn't and were like oh God. I wish I didn't but like clearly when you're keeping them around and you know, they're not good for you. You're not making the best decision. So I think she's kind of projecting that onto the guys when they're fighting like this guy. It's not about them being like Hanna's making the wrong decisions if that guy stayed in his Lane with them and was just like a bad person or whatever. They want say anything. It's because he's annoying every person in the house and body slam someone on the Rugby field. Yeah. I think it was Really interesting point you brought up that on one hand Hannah showed a very encouraging and empowering sign of independent badassness right where she comes in she claims. She's a grown-ass woman and she handles the situation but her inability to bounce back from that might speak to a deeper and security. Yeah that she also deep down knows she doesn't trust her own judgment. She keeps telling the guys you need to trust me to make my own decisions, but the fact that she's so shaky and her foundation feels it's been cracked. So wide open in this situation you I think you might be right that deep down. She also doesn't trust her own judgment to make these decisions because otherwise it would have been a different scenario. She got very sensitive to it because she I know she already feels insecure about the fact she's kept Luke this long. I think she knows she might not be making the right decision. She's trying to follow her heart, but really it's like we can like people and think that they're the right way when deep down even deep down. We know that they're wrong for us and I think that's what we're watching play out. But like had she felt secure about keeping Luke around and her relationships in the house and making hard decisions. It would have been a different scenario should have walked him like you guys I can't with this arguing like I'm gonna head out like I'm making my own decisions, so I don't want you guys have drama on but like understand I need to do what's best for me and then she leave but she took it very very close to her heart. It was very sensitive to her. So because of that, I think I think it stems from her and own insecurities like trying to be like No, it's fine. I'm making the right choices when she know she's not. Well, she must have felt especially insecure because guys she thought were solid dudes really showed another face tonight including Garrett. And also we saw some shadiness from Devon and Dylan is that their names that was the other funny moment sheet of us. I do love when Devin the talent manager comes out and he's like Hannah when we're together. It's all about our relationship and Hannah's like, what's your name? Yeah, like who? It is that Devan or Dylan Evan. Is it Kevin got it. Cousin Kevin your Dustin Kevin, but it was funny and then Devon kind of got shot down. He's like Hannah I'll step in and she's like and then everyone could kind of tell this through all the guys really I was unimpressed by them because she's crying and she's upset for good reason and she brings up a good point. None of you know anything about me because they did kind of reveal themselves to be a little narcissistic tonight as on the majority not everyone but many of them and then she's crying in another room and none of them go after her. Her I think like that's the moment like Connor pilot Pete sweeps in and is like or Tyler. I know you want to guys like Tyler City still not a huge fan, but he's growing on me, but I think that's when you go and you say hey, do you want a shoulder to cry on and I agree with you and I'm surprised that no one learned from hate to say it Luke p and episode whatever one or two to probably two or three when Hannah is crying another time and leaves the room a separate time from from this time and Luke p After her and is there for her and that's what ultimately I think gets him a rose. Right? Was it first impressions night? And that might have been the first impression Rose. Yes. It was and I said it wouldn't have been unless he came after her so it's crazy. I mean given it's been about six weeks now, so maybe they all forgot. I mean ABC did think we forgot. Thankfully we did get a reminder of the entire season this episode. So people are forgetful. I'll never forget this episode. No, I'm not that freak out. A full anything else in terms of the actual episode to be honest. I was so bombarded by the recap like it's all gone. So stunned I have PTSD. I know that was just ridiculous. Yeah, I think that I mean who and home that's a great. Let's talk about the rose ceremony. Thank you. We will talk about the rose ceremony so selected to go through and the order is interesting to let's talk about this order because I feel like she's making a strong statement with the order sheet. These guys out because Connor comes out number one and poor Connor got shoved earlier in the episode. You guys saw what Hannah comes into the room on time. Number two. This is worth going back on your DVR and watching she's very objectively shoves him out of the way. We're all Connor did was sit there and talk like a surfer. That's all he does and leave some sticky notes around the place. So Connor gets called out first. He's really excited about it. He just wants to get her heart. And now we have Tyler see who know more precedence dress. And from Tyler we did get that tonight, but no more precedence. Stress and from him then comes Dustin very surprised about this didn't see that one coming did not see this one coming and I truly think she just shows Dustin because he stayed out of the drama. Yeah, but then she keeps two of them that were deep deep in the drama. That's true. So yeah, but Dustin's not making it much further. Yeah. Probably going to go home next week. God bless him. Then we get Peter pilot love him as we know it. By the way, you guys just saying from the get go I said, I just love something. Peter and mind you my my Peter didn't get involved in any of the drama. In fact, he handled himself. So well, I give him the rose of the night. Absolutely. I think Peter is slowly revealing to sell himself to be a front-runner and I think potential Bachelor. Yes, I would like to see Peters Bachelor and then of course the caption can be he'll fly you anywhere anywhere for Love on the wings of love ABC always became we'll get to that in a minute. Garrett gets called out next. Ex and she said it was some frustration. He hugged her and said something I assumed it was maybe like and I'm so sorry, but it was not captured yours. I swear. I'm right. He's wrong. So funny you guys can catch that moment Mike. Nope. Sorry, that was it. And then of course loopy also gets his man Jared what you Miss Garrett I said, yeah. Oh you just said she the one moment that was interesting here was Garrett does own up to the camera. Garrett says this is 100% my fault then it cuts to Luke and he says this is 100% moves for our Garrets fault. He's crazy doesn't look great for anyone for any sides the five who are off the hook who we already named only other notable moment. I was very You confused by Hannah's toast. Once again. What? Okay, by the way you guys this is what Jeff and I noticed Hannah does this thing where she'll say two things that mean the same thing but there were two differently like tonight. She was like, I feel enlightened and like my eyes are open and my theory on it is that she got so scared about that first toe she made on Kolten season that she promised herself from now on she's just going to start talking and whatever comes out. She's just praying it will end. Well, yeah and it rarely does. Well, it's funny because Hannah's actually really good at communicating when it's one-on-one and she's great at communicating to camera but when it comes to our toast, I am frequently very confused and I don't know how everyone else is doing. But well, I feel like when it's to camera she's produced like heavily produced but when it's a toast like that she's kind of on our own could be awkward to keep cutting him to wait. What do I say about the eye My Eyes Are Open? You know what? I mean? Yeah. For sure, we still love you Hannah and for the most part I liked the way you handled yourself tonight, but I need you to get your head on straight because then she starts sobbing to Chris Harrison and the next truly the next hour. She scold them after the rose ceremony, but I wish they'd go. Oh, yeah, do you accept this Rose? And then she thought that she was I am very disappointed and everyone tonight and I don't think any of you are my husband. Yeah, and they're like, we just I thought you just realized I don't want to be with any of you and I'm going to go now I liked it. Oh, me too, but it was like a cop. Me off guard kind of unprecedented. Yeah, there were some great moments this episode. We're going to say, oh that before I move on to part two this episode because we got to recap. I have a feeling. So if you guys ever listen to Chris Harrison do interviews, he just did a great interview on the ringers Bachelor recap podcast bachelor party with Juliet Littman's good podcast great interview with Chris Harrison, by the way, he gives us a lot of behind-the-scenes tea and dirt on what's happening this season. I sounded really cool. Thank you. He and dirt in my be like the dirt turned you want to hear the team. I tweeted to jacket. I'm trying to tell like I have a real you guys want us to Spill the tea tonight on The Bachelorette after show he talked about now. He's a producer. He's not only just the hose. He's also a producer and he put that producer hat on tonight and you could tell he was really here's my theory. I think behind the scenes Hannah had a freakout with production and was like, I truly can't do this anymore. I quit. And production was like the only problem with that is you signed a big-ass contract and we have five more weeks of this show to film and you need to get on the same page and then in a brainstorming session, I think maybe on paper it sounded nice for them to not only take the opportunity to get Hannah on board but also to film that and to see how it would play out. So not only this is recap but I think this was a chance to remind Hannah that she is liable for millions of dollars if she doesn't finish the season of The Bachelorette. Yeah there. Holding up behind the camera her contract - do what you want to over a million dollars was trying hard. She's like, yes, I will. I will stand the show and look for Love at one point when she said something was hard to answer it's because they're behind the camera. I don't know how to answer that. Let's let's heard shots being held Ransom the two dogs that are back home. He's Chris Chris kept being like it's clear you're upset if there's hope right, right and she's like, no, I don't think there's hope He's like but there's hope right. She's like, I don't know do you like but you can find love Ryan to just like yes, I think there is hope I think I can find love good. Good. Keep that keep that taken guys. Let's go again hard cut to Chris emerging from The Bachelor mansion with a tonight or good evening whenever it's a good evening, you know, you're in trouble you're like, oh and we had a good evening. We're about to take a very unusual move and recap recap recap the whole season, but this is what blows My mind is before this like when that then that portion of the episode ended before commercials, they're like next on The Bachelorette and they're like teasing this two-on-one with Garrett and Luminosity that why they're like No One's Gonna watch if we tell them what it really is. So let's just lie, that's literally what they did. Okay, so we write at Renee and I had a moment where we felt like we were particularly funny when you're recapping and Hannah's talking to cam and she goes I just feel like this is really skeezy and slimy and we're like, yes, abah. Exactly. Do we feel like this is really skeezy and slimy. It's all good. I mean, I don't want to complain too much. It was kind of fun to relive some of the moments of the season. Oh my God, wait, it all makes sense. Philly. BC always be cam cam is sleazy ABC. Wow our shadow. Oh dang. I wasn't even an English major quite a conspiracy theory. Let's talk about to keep it positive. What were some moments in this recap? That we liked by the bloopers were funny. Right? Right. You're under contract Renee. Um, listen, I gotta keep it real with you ABR always be Renee I are always be real just like Hannah. Yeah. I hated it. I did not find one of these here's what I'll tell you though. I was laughing hysterically because of how much I hated it and couldn't believe it was happening. That's what made it entertaining is. I was just in such disbelief that they were showing He's in the shocking. I was like, there's no way it's just because the show is so consistently while produced that's the one thing. However you feel about The Bachelorette. Yeah, it is one of the most effectively and tightly and efficiently produce shows in this business. So to have an hour unit back together jobs. I know I'm like do love the show know we do but we really do it with you could clear. There's a reason millions of people watch the show. It's so well produced and that's why I'm just kind of shocked that they did. I also wonder do you think it's possible? They lost footage that know? I genuinely thought like they're going to end this in a weird way like they're like, well some of the footage got messed up or for the next two, maybe the truly either had nothing but I don't think considering how dramatic Hannah has been with like her emotions and everything. I mean, she it does add to the show for drama. But why didn't they show that why did they show this instead unless she really wasn't willing to be on camera. Maybe that was it. That's the only thing I can think of because I cannot imagine. A producer just trying to add a fun New segment. That was this horrific 45 minutes of our lives so long before we continue one of the ways we keep all these shows for you free is by our amazing sponsors. And today Spotify is one of our sponsors on Spotify. You can listen to all of your favorite artists and podcasts in one place for free. 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Well, how do you feel about the Lux the battle will the Lux Luke Taylor gasps? She started laughing. I'm like Hannah are you sad and are you having existential dread about your future or are you laughing about the pity Rose and laughing about the Battle the loose? I felt like the rug was pulled out from underneath me because other sudden They're laughing about all this stuff. I'm supposed to take so seriously, but when they do the throw, To that fight I didn't and maybe I didn't notice it like that before. Listen. I really truly don't have the best memory of every moment of the show, but I don't remember her thinking she was trying to hold in laughter when watching them fight before but seeing this go back she was because she did that thing we do when we move our face into a scrunch when we're trying to laugh like the I know it's in there. That's why she left because she was sick of it. She was like I can't do this with a straight face a chaos for the last 30 minutes of this broadcast. I just know that just did. Make a ton of sense for me was this huge tonal shift? I can't even at first I thought Hannah takes this so seriously that she doesn't know if she can have a husband but the tone of this whole segment was like Hannah doesn't take this seriously enough to even care about finding a husband was how it felt. I just felt very let down but I will say I think this is what happened. This is my theory of it. Yes, I think a new producer was hired like will call her or him. We'll call him Jamie. Jamie was hired as a new producer. It's like hey guys. I have a great idea and someone that wasn't really paying attention or was having an off day was like you want Jamie. What's your idea? And he's like, I'm an idea for a producing idea where Chris Harrison literally Recaps the whole season and half of that time. He's just recapping the episode that people just watch and they're like honestly Jimmy like sure because they're having a bad day. Maybe they just went through a breakup then Jamie produces a whole thing and the editors like wait am I supposed to edit this and she was like, yep, they go through it and then someone misses the mark until the very end when it needs to be shown and they're like, well we better make the The promo the best it can be because the actual promo for the next episodes were great. We finally found our most p is the guy that shames her for having sex before marriage. We find out that I think someone is trying to propose to her before the very end of the show. So they really did shove a lot of good stuff after a lot of bad stuff. Well because here's what I think like they could have it would have been really interesting if Hannah's having this moment of Crisis and they fly her friends in or she flies back to her hometown and talk to her parents. So they get Danny back in there are Demi I know but there were just so many things they could have done here instead of a spark notes like that was it was just so weird especially like they wanted to take a high-stakes moment of will Hannah continue. They could have pulled people in former Bachelors former bachelorettes. There's just so many options of things besides a one-on-one recap with ch, yeah, and on top of that like usually we don't get the oh, yeah that was ridiculous moments from The Bachelor Bachelorette until the season's over right? So it was so weird for her. Yeah to be joking about the loop. Luke's drama or like talking about the bloopers because she's like bloopers like I haven't found a husband jealous wait to laugh. Let's make sure I don't end up alone. I know it's like am I supposed to be taking this seriously or not? Here's the thing Renee and I obviously had issues with the way this episode was produced. I'm oh, I'm very very keen to hear that. Right Ryan. Did you wanna I'm very ABC it's a I want to know from anyone watching. Did anyone like this? Did anyone think This was a great hour of Television. I loved being reminded what happened this season and it was really good because I'm earnestly and genuinely curious to see if anyone like this because I've never seen anyone turn on someone quicker than Luke p as they did with this episode of TV Bachelor nation was not having it and I don't know. I want to see if anyone liked it. So if you like this hour of TV recap, let us know in the comments and in the chat for the kindly give us five stars on iTunes if you did not like this episode. Yes, if you did then leave a comment, but if you didn't then please leave. This five stars on iTunes and we'll see the difference. Absolutely. That's a great idea. I'm getting a lot of NOS. So it seems like people agree great 5 Stars. Well, let's talk a bit about we're going to do something a little different this week. We're actually going to do our quick predictions now because they led to the promo we have plenty of segments after predictions, but which is a lot of news that Bachelor in Paradise. So we'll do predictions now and then our special segment. So drop that predictions bumper Ryan's Stevie predictions. Okay. So the promo is great and partly I'm transitioning so we can get some positive wolf. Stuck out to you from this promo. Well, I feel like because everyone had a feeling it would be luke P that shamed her. I'm happy that they finally revealed that in the way that he did it of just being like yeah. Well if you've had sex with anyone on the show, like I'd leave just the way he said that like can't wait to have sex with you once were married. Yeah, just everything the way he worded it because I makes me wonder if she had told him before that. She was not a virgin so that really did suck stick out to me because I've been Been waiting to like have that confirmed also just how they showed us the like I once a proposal moment, but the moment was her and Chris Harrison when he's like, he's here to propose a he's ready right now. Yes, because it really does lead us to believe that it's not down to two yet like something the only person who I could possibly think of that would do something like this is Luke P. I agree I think and it could be anything those producers are great at manipulating us. Okay tonight's episode I think. That Luke p is the one who's probably sex-shaming Hannah saying you can't do anything in the fantasy suites. I want to control how you're behaving with these other guys until it's our wedding day. And if we're seeing the promos right this really upsets Hannah and it looks like she might send him home that night. We're watching him get in the car if she doesn't and he truly talks to her the way that I think he's going to I will lose some respect for her. I'm going to be honest. I will because I I think you should allow someone to be that controlling that is incredibly controlling and toxic and I mean already I do think he's done it in the mid- way, but this is very blunt the way it does seem seem like he's doing it in the promo and that's just so unhealthy and that girl needs to take a stand because she knows she shouldn't keep him around and that's like a moment where he's fully disrespecting her. So not that he hasn't before but even more well, we do have a presumably a therapist in the chat. I do love a good they're very hot. Heimer offers us Luke P has the clinical signs of early schizophrenia vacant stare flat affect rigidity depersonalization and agitated physical outbreaks interesting truly if Luke is a diagnosed schizophrenic. I actually sent him the best because that can be quite a doozy of a I don't know but that's just a very it's funny. I'm used to comments being like F this guy and this person's like here's an exact diagnosis of Luke's Behavior. Yeah. I mean, I mean the thing is though is it's definitely you can like observe. It on TV and we can kind of guess here and they're like based on that but we don't know we really don't know. I know you could be an alien. I Do by December girl in theory. He could be I think he's gonna get sent home and then he like you said, he'll be the one to buy a ring and get ready to propose to Hannah that next day and it's going to make her wonder if he really is the right choice. He'll be like I thought that's isn't that what the show was? I watched the One season and I'm supposed to propose to you and she's like, no Luke not for two more weeks. He's like, I don't want to Opposed to 444 HP. Anyways, who do you think's going to win? Let's play that game. Do you think she's gonna end up with someone or alone? I think she's gonna pick Tyler. See are you serious? Uh-huh. You think she's going to pick like to be her husband? Yeah, Tyler see I do the one that says Grill it or grill and impressive. Oh my God, I think she'll pick Jed. I think Jed is gonna get second. And you think it's gonna come down to Tyler see a jet in the she's gonna Tyler see Tyler seen people think beach house in Redondo. We'll see. Yeah, I think it's gonna be tighter seeing Peter. Oh my God, if it's Tyler see, I want a reality show and the story. I want to like, I would love to see that just work a couple. Well, let us know in the chat what you guys think in the chat what you guys think in the comments down below? We have some Tweets. We're going to use our special segment right now. I love that. So as you guys know, this is our segment called tweeting for the right reasons and we share our favorite tweets from Bachelor Nation. Y'all were lit in the Twitter tonight. So guys, I've been finding some tweets throughout the entire episode. And this first one is from an eel lame the oh lame and that's awesome pretty good because Ryan and if you do this, but the Jeweler who picks the Rings for the contestants is Neil Lane a nice. It's his wise The Bachelorette recap happening when we Don't even know everyone's name. Yeah, and that's a gif of a dowel saying I ain't got time for that true. We do have some tweeting for the right reasons to from Liza like Minnelli who I think might be our only fan that uses the hashtag but we love you for Eliza. I'll leave one of your tweets after I do my after I do my name's this one. Okay. So this is a pictures included. So make sure to go to my Twitter to see it at Renee Ariel, but it says no one not a single soul The Bachelorette producers tune in now to re-watch what you just finished watching. And it has Chris Harrison on like the set of a FR. It's pretty gold. I love it. Finally. I have my tweets which is so if you guys have seen Titanic, you will remember that doesn't everyone thing Titanic saw for the first time three months ago. Isn't that crazy? I think of you differently now, it's fair yikes. I know busted I've seen a lot of movies bus that was a lot to see when I was young child because there was toplessness in it. Oh, there is toplessness in it and I was just a young I saw that when I was young too. Okay, so we have Rose as the old version of herself as you guys remember and it's a gif of her the quotes that the Tweet actually famous gift. By the way, you're like this country. It's the old Rose give you guys free podcast listeners. The Tweet is all of us waiting for the bachelor recap to be over hashtag The Bachelorette and the gift says it's been 84 years and it's Rose waiting for it to end and I'm going to read one. I'm Liza like Minnelli who always tweeting for the right reasons Is Us. Chris Harrison, thank you for sitting down with me and the 30 can't go strategically placed around us accept The Bachelorette hashtag waiting for the right reasons. Why is like Minelli? We love you. Thanks for tweeting at us funny. Oh, let's get into the news and gossip because there's some really good news and gossip this week spill that spill the tea give us the dirt. I will give you the T and the dirt. Wow, thank you. You're welcome Bachelor in Paradise cast is revealed. Do you know I really don't know. This is great. Yeah. Well, I mean, it's there's always Twenty people who shop it always starts with eight and then it's like but it's been five minutes. So we're going to review we want mostly to end up alone bring in nine more magic and take away three women. Alright, so the first person who is going to be in Paradise always be cam. No, no. No did you see is interview on roses and Roses? I know he's better than you think. Okay. Okay, just like Evan was I don't like having either. Sure, fair enough Blake Horsemen our favorite theater nerd from Becca season plagued. Oh my God. He's finally feeling better good for him. Yes, he's back clay. Remember clay, he like got enjoy your Sunday. Yeah. Yeah strong sensitive football player. Yep, I do remember him. Wait, what's me dating? Someone let us know that you at? All right, Debbie. No surprise there Demi we knew yep my Favorite John Paul Jones is going to Paradise cited for that taoiseach excited about that. I love to each other of taoiseach. Hope she finds a man in paradise and bibs. I don't get it. I really I know that they're like pushing for her to be like the comedic relief. But to be honest, it was a bore having her last season. I think she killed it on re-season. Yeah, but like paradise lost your she didn't even try. Why great clay was dating Angela. That's right. Okay, so that so they broke up that's sad. I don't want to celebrate that. They were cute together and Angela deserve that moment because well, you know, she's gonna show up to Paradise though. She better who is the one that broke her heart in Paradise you guys someone broke her heart in Paradise. Well Rita right before we go out because you guys will answer it there. Anyone that you're disappointed is not in Paradise based on this list. No, not that I can think of. Where are you I could have used Train exit Heather. I don't think she would have been kind of a funny twist. But other than that, yeah, I mean, I guess Hannah G just so she can have a Redemption. Yeah. We're I like it it g she needs her moment. Yes aside from that. Not really I yeah, no. Okay. Well, let us know if there oh Eric was who broke Angeles heart Eric and I love Eric because we've had Eric better figure wrap actually run into Eric sometimes at the gym love him as a person but truly Leon his season of paradise. I was I wanted to slap him and she would tell him that to his face. I wouldn't probably the vase. I absolutely and with that we got to get out of here guys. We really need to sleep quickly. If you guys love this episode more than we did. We appreciate that. We want you to let us know in the comments down definitely. So sorry. This was The Bachelorette weekend for the bat this This kept in the bachelorette. Thank you so much for tuning in guys. My name is Jeff gravy can find me on Twitter at Jeffrey. Secret Renee. You guys can follow me at Renee Ariel on Instagram and on Twitter and go watch me report news and shared news, but you to Big new gig freaking you gig and she's kicking ass over there. So proud of you today guys. Thanks for tuning in. We'll see you next week here for our favorite show on ABC The Bachelorette. Thanks always be Kim founder Keven undergaro and me Maria Menounos would like to thank you for tuning. 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Tonight...we recap a recap. Because they recapped. The whole season. For an hour. That was the show. Tune into The Bachelorette Aftershow, I guess? Hosted by @jeffreycgraham& @reneeariel The Bachelorette After Show: Which of the men will get the final rose? On THE BACHELORETTE AFTER SHOW we’ll fill you in on everything that happens on and off camera on the hit ABC series. Plus be bringing your favorite cast members our panel. Tune in for reviews, recaps and in-depth discussions of the latest episodes’ group dates, one on one dates, the squabbles and fights AND bonus off-season content like news updates happening in Bachelor nation. ABOUT THE BACHELORETTE: Becca Kufrin believed she had found love with Arie Luyendyk Jr. on "The Bachelor," but when the race car driver changed his mind and broke her heart so he could reunite with runner-up Lauren Burnham, the humble girl next door from Minnesota resolved not to let the heart-wrenching breakup hold her back. When the 27-year-old publicist isn't making a splash at the boutique public relations agency where she works or planning her next overseas trip, she can be found at home hosting dinner parties for her friends. She hopes to find a man who shares her firm set of Midwest values and who is actually ready to commit to her on her terms. 