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Yes, you guys we're joined here with Zach Peters these actuators. Yes, when Chelsea and Liam text you and tell you to come on and talk real housewives of New York. You do it you guys don't ask questions you just show up and you do it, especially with an episode like a trip. Episode so good you have to be here for a trip episode. I was laughing the entire time. I mean when Sonja is face planning within the first two minutes of the episode starting onto the ground blackout drunk like and still going like the Bob stuff. She is. Yeah, I agree. Yeah guys, so we have a lot to talk about I am Chelsea Stark Jones and like I said, I'm joined by the lovely. Mr. Zack Peters. Yeah. It was it was a good episode. It really picked up right where it left off with Sonia face planting and you know, I'm still just going with it saying she's gonna knock Bethany out still like she really didn't skip a beat. No, I wish you would have knocked Bethany other this tribe. I love Bethenny, but I wish you would have at least like I want to like a swing or something. I wanted Barbara to like, you know, get the mud out and just like roll around with her like fart looks like she's been in a few mud fights ever she does, but she definitely seems so out of place and this group of women like a so bad. It doesn't get it. Yeah, and I love you know, Sonia's kissing Bethany's but like saying how grateful she has. It's just it's a great ass. She's thanks Clinton still an office like everything about it is fabulous. And I love the EMTs coming in and having to check her these guys are huh, but I love how like they don't come in discrete like they come in like as a hurry and they're like standing over the bed seven of them, right? Yeah of one frail older woman and there were like a four of them were like actual officers and two of them were like super like it was like a whole thing. It was definitely a lot and in the midst of it tensley. I'm Ramona were getting ready to go out and stabs that - Babs she got the snub would you go out if you had a girlfriend or a guy friend whatever, you know, I getting medical attention. I feel like Sonja has taken a few hits to the face. That'd be like. She's good. Like I'm gonna I'm gonna go have a drink. He's good like she you know, I don't blame them either one. My makeup on and I have an outfit on like I'm not there were no bruises. There were no red marks that were no, there's no blood like she she's taken plenty of hits to the face. She was definitely acting for you too. But yeah, those are the EMTs cleared her. They said her vitals were great. She was lovely and they also kind of mentioned like but they made a note like there's no drugs in her system like and whatnot. So that's a little a little tidbit for later. But then we have this fun night out with tensley a remote. Ona or so, we think and tensley starts to rehash the Scott stuff again and says that Miami reminds her of him. I mean she her credit was like where their first like long weekend getaway was but I mean, I saw your eyes roll to the back of your head when this happened at the bar. So what are your thoughts? I think anytime Tim's Lee is on my television screen my eyes roll into the back of my head, but I just think like I actually feel for the girl right now because she's just That one friend that like can't get over her ex and everyone like wants to shake her and you like delete his number and you block him and you like send him mean text messages from her phone and then block him like we've all been there with that friend. We've been that friend so I like feel for her but yet like we just need to like I like that Ramona jumped in and she's just like you need to have like other guys other options, which is kind of my strategy is like pretend it's a stove have multiple burners going on. You have one guy one pods boiling one's kind of simmering like, you know, make sure you keep the rotation going and I think that's what Tinsley needs I like that analogy so much better than the cocktails and the condiments that Ramona was using at the bar. I mean I get that she's being handy, but why that's actually really really good. I agree. I think you shouldn't keep all your eggs in one basket. No, but I mean, I don't know how long and of a span of time has their breakup been like it's still somewhat recent. I think I would say mom acts too much. Yeah, so Understand it like her still being in her feelings. And then I also I mean we don't know I don't think he cheated on her like I don't think he was abusive to her. So like I think it was one of those relationships that kind of just ended because you are growing in different directions and I feel like that's almost harder to get over somebody when they didn't do anything to really like make you angry. Yeah. I mean I based off of my analysis from what we saw on the show. I don't think he was ever a great guy for her because it never felt like he was genuinely interested in committing to her. He just kept her around which like kept her kept her hopes up exactly. It kept her wanting to or believing that something was actually going to come of this the fact that he was sending her pictures of engagement rings and like led her to believe that he was at one point going to ask her to marry him and he never did like, it just showed that he was jerking her around and those are some of the hardest ones to get over because like you held on to hope for so long that like, you still More in the back of your mind, you know you it Stockholm syndrome and you're like, okay at some point like, you know, he's gonna call me one day and he's going to tell me that he loves me and it's all going to turn around at some point and you still hold on to that. Hope because that's what your relationship was based off of ya and then we jump up we're gonna jump ahead a little bit with tensley her sister Dabney comes to the party. I think yeah. What a stupid name is Irina, that's not the best and find our mother spelled that wrong drunk too much morphine. But Dominique kind of left her with a good good also thing was he was a burden he was a weight on your shoulders. Like he brought you down like, you know, he's not someone that you should be like you should be out there and like socializing with literally a party full of men and she had her chance and she just couldn't couldn't do it was the hot one Tony was that his name Tony was hot. Tony was hot. Like I thought that's who Bethany was gonna set him up Bethany. Totally threw us for a loop on that would be that's when tins melee Tinsley needs to go downstairs and have a vodka. Like pretend she's a little drunker than she actually is give her a little more confidence and they're just like, oh my God, I accidentally fell into your lap. What how did you get inside me? How did this happen? Yeah. I mean she she should do that. She's single and he's hot like yeah Kinsley like you are like if Ramona and Sonja and Luann are just like full couch out like ready for a man like the Deadliest Catch then like Tinsley has no reason to not be out there with them. She's young and single and like Get it girl. Yeah, she should definitely be doing that and out of all the women that were at that party like she should have been the one to like have a guy come upstairs with her. She would have had multiple got like they would have all left Ramona and Sonja for her wouldn't even have to do too much know like just say hello and twirl her hair. Yeah laugh at their dumb jokes like yeah, she had it but going back to the next morning after the whole drunken Fiasco with Luann and whatnot. Luann goes about well, she wakes up demanding coffee. She's where's the help where's where's our people and then she's you know any yoga class. I mean the irony. Oh the irony that she's yelling at people for coffee so that she can get to her yoga class to Namaste like, oh my God. She's so crazy. Yeah, she is insane and and she kind of just isolates herself in the group altogether. I'm she even makes note that she heard. Heard about Sonia falling the previous night but chose not to say anything because how could I with everything that's true? So to me the night before no, I love her excuse where she was like, I heard Barbara came in and told me that Sonia felf and face-planted on to the floor and Ramona's like well, why didn't you go in and check on her? She's like because I didn't know she fell on the floor and like you just said you knew and you didn't go and check on her because I didn't want to because you really weren't that concerned not at all and and to pretend like you care. about her drinking habits or that you're going to invite her to AA because you think she has some type of problem this I think was kind of issue last year with Dorinda and the way on when Luann felt like she was on some high horse because she was sober and de Renda, you know, you're starting to turn where it's like you think just because you're not drinking you have the authority to call someone a drunk or say their alcoholic or whatever and like that's starting to come to light again with Sonja and I mean, yeah, Yeah, she got drunk but like I got drunk two weekends ago and Mexico to like it's not like I don't have a drinking yet. There's a difference between getting drunk and being a drunk and I actually don't know if I really believe that Luann is an alcoholic. I'm look I'm not one to question it and I'm not one to question anybody sobriety or alcoholism, but I think you know, I think she really ran with this and is turning it into a much bigger thing than it actually is. Yeah, you know and her now her preaching and trying to project this onto everybody. Around her it's like it's off-putting. Yeah, it really is and and Ramona goes out to talk to her too kind of like extend all of branch and she goes on and says the women don't support me. She just doesn't really seem she's not listening know that they don't support you. They spent five hours at Halloween show waiting for you to come out and sing. What's her song Money Can't Buy money can't buy you class. Oh my God. Yeah. I lip-sync money. Can't buy you class. Yeah. I just it's it's getting old for me at least. Least like I haven't been that big of a loo fan for a while and I'm like I've ever been a loser. Yeah. She just doesn't do it for me. I'm not like even this even more so is like proving my point as so like how just pretentious and condescending and nasty. She is it's just it's not it's not fun to watch. There's some people that could pull that off and are funny. Hence like a NeNe Leakes or something. But like she doesn't do this for me. There was a moment where like she was semi enjoyable and it was right after she got released from jail right after her home. Take a rest and like she'd you know Fell From Grace and then she was a little bit of like a normal person because she had to eat. She had to be humble. Yeah, she was humbled. They gave her a big giant not even a slice a whole pie to the face. Yeah, and you know now she is back and she has her Cabaret. She has her jewelry line like she has all these things that are going for her again and she has no reason to be you had to have any humility anymore. Yeah. I mean, I just love Bethenny making a little success look real bad. Like that's like I said it is, okay. One Cabaret that like you're touring around like no, you know when you're doing a Vegas Reagan residency 10 years after your show is ended then I will consider you successful when you're Brittany and Celine Dion and Lady Gaga and JLo, you know, then then we can talk about you being you know, this big success. So just to set the record straight. We don't think Sonja is spiraling down into darkness. No, I think Sonja is just one of those girls that likes to have a little too much fun sometimes. I don't think she is doing this like it's when you're drinking and getting blackout drunk regularly on a weekly basis. That's when it's more of an issue Sonia. Does this every once in a while while they're on vacation like I'm Legit empathize with her. Yeah. Yeah. That was me literally two weekends ago. It's like you're out of town you get there. You're excited. You're taking any drink that you're white and you're not really thinking fully you know, and it's yeah it's rare and she has like a full like she has a daughter that Putting through college to get she's a single woman. She doesn't have a man with her. She just had to give up her townhouse. She's in a new teeny tiny apartment. Like she's had a lot of life changes that I'm sure in prevented her from having a night out like this and to her defense as well. Like Sony has also someone that could like to three seasons ago. She wasn't drinking. Yeah. She wasn't, you know, she's not gave it up on that could just like go cold turkey. Yeah, but anyways before we move on guys, we just want to thank you so much for being a part of our AfterBuzz TV Community. 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But if you would like me to go to AA with you, that's something I will consider to support you as a friend not because I need it and I'm certainly not going to go this weekend because I'm on vacation and like screw you. And also like by the way while you're over here upset about what I said about you like you also need to you know, check yourself because you said some things about me that I didn't like either so we both going to be held accountable. Yeah, I totally agree and I also think that Sonja even in her like drunken State the night before was making very valid points and she was reiterating the same thing kind of to LuAnn in the next morning and it's just like yeah if you think that I am On pills or whatever like that's it you and me conversation not a you and the group and whoever else, you know, and she made also really good point of if I go and start telling people about you being on bills that puts you back in jail like yeah, so like just know the severity of that kind of a rumor like it just seems so the thing is LuAnn lacks complete self-awareness that like when everybody else is saying these things about her and they're all kind of thing the same thing and at the same time not just saying the same thing but have their individual. Bones to pick with her that fit under the same umbrella that everyone's accusing her of like at some point. You're like, okay, what's the common denominator here? Like let me look at myself and like maybe I am being a little pretentious. Maybe I am, you know coming off a little too haughty and like not being a supportive friend right now and not automatically turn it on everybody else and be like you guys don't support me and you want to see me fall. It's like everybody is had your back and supported you for several months now, like really you're going to throw that at them. I thought it was ridiculous. I There's just a time with anything in life. You just have to look inward at self-reflection, whether you're doing something wrong or not, like every couple of months. I take a time to look within I like doing mental, you know cleaning of the brain like there's just get a colonic. You gotta do it. Sometimes like clean out all your inside and when all your friends are mad at you you definitely have to do it. So it coffee enemas. Yeah coffee. I've never you are so cute. When would like to copy animus and she was screaming about coffee? Where's my coffee? Well, I hope you're right. Um, yeah, so I loved I love Sonja kind of getting her point across and being like very matter-of-fact about the whole thing. Yeah, but also just leaving it as a agree to disagree at the same time. Like I think that women are kind of coming to terms that no matter what they say Luann's not going to receive it. So they kind of just have to put it out there and just let it go and you know be cool with her, I guess surface-level friendship that's hard to do and it is glue and it is very hard to do and she just like wants everybody to like bow down to the queen and she said tonight. She like they always bring up the Countess thing and they say I'm the Countess and it's like no it's not even about the Countess anymore. It's just you Luann who's an awful person. I know you're not being a countess is out the window you no longer that girlfriend and I just kind of touched on this a little bit like Barbara just feels she just doesn't belong she goes for the run before we continue one of the ways we keep all these shows. You free is by our amazing sponsors. And today Spotify is one of our sponsors on Spotify. You can listen to all of your favorite artists and podcasts in one place for free. You don't even need a premium account Spotify as a huge catalogue of podcasts on every topic including the one you're listening to right now on Spotify. You can follow your favorite podcast. So you don't miss an episode premium users can even download episodes to listen to offline wherever they are and you can easily share what you're listening to with all your friends and following on Instagram if you haven't done so already be sure to download the Spotify app and Search for AfterBuzz TV on Spotify or browse podcasts in the your library tab. Also, make sure you follow us. You never miss an episode of AfterBuzz TV. She she comes back Ramona tells her that they're all going to hang out by the pool and it's just like the most awkward and uncomfortable encounter. Like I just Barbara is the is the tilapia at the Clambake like nobody wants it like why is this here? Because it was a cheap option that we just decided to put her on the plane. Baccala theater, yeah, why what like why is this even here right now? Yeah, that is a really sad, but true true definition of what she has to this group and I mean and and you could kind of see that the girls are trying to like let her know like this is only the beginning like during his like it hasn't got started Bethany's like this. This is just how we are and you can't really flow with it. So so yeah, and she didn't make it to the art thing, right? She was not at the art thing. I don't know why she wasn't here. Yeah, I just realized that when were white like at the end of the episode. She wasn't there. I wonder if they even invited her. Yeah, right. I didn't even notice. She wasn't that she had like three scenes and like none of them really had were yeah, they didn't know really no words in it like no purpose to have her at like I think what it is and Bethany even said at this episode to that like Barbara just doesn't really fit in with the group and I feel like I'd like the producers and the editor they all know that like she doesn't fit in. Let's have bath in the throwing a soundbite of Bethany saying it so we can slowly graduate. Yeah, like I things are done after the holder Enda Luann bickering at the beginning like I thought four episodes of her and then she's like out but like they actually were trying to really trying to give her as they were filming is that tilapia? That is a tilapia. That's a bottom feeder. I was like, that's all of you looks different than what I thought. Yeah. Well hi Barb, my bad. How you doing? And yeah, so then Ramona also mentions at the pool that she is. Well, she's throwing a party that evening. Hmm and she's inviting Mario to come to the party a little bit later. I'm she says there's no issue with her having Mario there and also inviting a flirt friend and I love that Bethenny pointed out the double standard and removes like ya know Ramona is just so funny that like she does these crazy things and it's just like you can't help but Appreciate for appreciate her for who she is like only she can invite her ex-husband with the intention of like leading him on with another guy when it's like this is the ex-husband that in case you forgot left you for a younger woman and then it didn't work out and now he's like lost in life and you think you're just going to like catch him back in like around a tilapia. Like I can't with her. She's so funny. I love it though. And then she's someone that is C. This is this Is a good example Luann and Ramona are both salt like not self-aware and right. She was on Watch What Happens and they caught an they did a poll like as being a narcissist worse, you're being unaware worse and everyone shows narcissus for land and like that is true. Like that is exactly Ramona because she is just as much as interest self as anybody else. She is, you know, she holds these double standards about men and relationships and stuff, but she is funny to watch that's the thing with Ramona it. He's all the things that Luann is. Yeah, but she is comic relief and she also probably a little too much but she knows when to apologize. Yes. Yes Luanne can never take accountability for anything. He could listen to yeah a friend that is hurt by her. Yeah. So I that's like a very good example, the two of them Luanne needs to see Teddy Mellencamp kind of accountability. Well speaking of someone that's a little bit too much into themselves the the Woman all go to see art except for Barbara apparently and as they're about to get out of the car. Ramona says, okay guys leaving. I'm going to meet some other friends at a bar. So typical me like why even the only reason she rode with them once to get the free ride? Yeah. Yeah. So but she missed out on a lot a lot. ER all the art art for Jesus Christ and who else got a queen the Queen Elizabeth Queen Mother Queen Mother. Barbara Bush Barbara Bush. Yes, you miss a little I look like it was a nice little Adventure a nice little Excursion again pointing to LuAnn being a little bit too self-centered when her friend Peter was giving out all the art pieces. She looked noticeably pissed that you didn't give her a gift and then she even said where's my gift? Yeah, like Bethenny didn't get a gift either and she's been ten Grand on herpes. Yeah. So like maybe you should spend some money with all that Cavalry man. Apparently God. Got a around house at the views pretty I mean for like a weekend, but yeah, it's like an air B&B for like a fun. Click Big Bear like you would a big bear for a weekend but like you don't want to live in Big Bear Escape too big but yeah, exactly. Yeah. Okay. So anyways, so now we're finally at this party Ramona's getting ready. She feels like it's prom night. She's super super pumped vision and white a vision and white Mario's First to arrive which is very eager to teach ya gets there first. It was a little uncomfortable and then it just went straight into flirting. Yeah, I mean, but the thing is like she's like we have chemistry and then like they have this Montage like them over the years which is so cringeworthy and awkward their chemistry is like when you have the red wire and the blue wire and you like for sit together to make a spark, but it like doesn't go and the spark is like so forced. That like they don't have chemistry but it's like kind of like a an admirable kind of relationship. That's like fun to still want to watch. It's definitely fun to watch. Do you think they might end up together? Yeah. I mean, I wouldn't be surprised I would say 80 20 80. There's an 80% chance it would probably get back together on a 20% chance that they don't and I think that they should not because I think like their relationship ended. Like they moved on from each other and I just I think when a relationship ends like you have to move on and like move into the next phase of your life and I think we're meant Ramona is now an independent woman and like you know, she I don't know. I don't really see them ending up with anybody else. I don't know. I was listening to this podcast and they were saying how like hypothetically speaking Ramona and their daughter Avery Avery has a child. She's a grant like there maybe later. Iran down the line a couple years. They're both still single. Like maybe they get back together for the grandchild. I don't know like it's like I don't think they'll go. Yeah, I told her to so I mean, I don't know looks great as her age. I'm more realistic outcome would probably be Mario finding a younger woman. Okay, not a young woman but a younger woman like hate 40s, is there what they're in their 60s, right? Yeah late 40s, maybe early 50s. I think that may be a little old for him. I think he would want like mid to late 40s liked it. His age and and they're happy together and Ramona. I unfortunately don't see her with anyone other than Mario. I think that's her best bet but I don't want have my like I want her to have want more but I think she's in love with him because he's not good for her. Yeah because he hurt her and like, you know, she needs to have some self-respect. I do would say like the the way that they're able to co-parent even with their daughter being so much older like there's really no reason for them. I mean there is because they do have a daughter but like she's older like I'm sure she'd understand if her parents like didn't speak to one another but I will I do respect their like co-parent modern dynamic. Yeah, I like that exactly and then another question before we move on with this franchise be as good if all the women were like married and had younger like I feel like I know what makes New York great as they're single. They're partying they're older. They're a little bit more like worldly because you look at it, like look at Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. Yes. It's a completely different Dynamic and Los Angeles. Your car to completely different cities and the women in and of themselves are different but like they're all married and they're all you know have kids and like they you know, they don't get crazy drunk when they go on trips. They go to Provence and they have a rose and I didn't have one too many glasses and and laugh till they see themselves to sleep over the ways that they do get drunk is just more like girlfriends having fun with each other and not like including yeah, man around or whatever. Yeah, we're like this one. We appreciate and I also I think that like, you know, I know Housewives the franchise gets a lot of crap, but I also think like this shows women that are older that are still able to date still able to go out and have a life and it goes to show that like your life doesn't end after 29, you know, if after your 30s is life after divorce his life after a lot of things. Yeah. I think these women are definitely there like this show will go down in his New York especially will go down in like history. It's it'll be like the modern or future Golden Girls it is red it is I mean, they're great. But yeah, I mean they're at this party with literally all these men Ramona made a very strict rule about the men to women ratio laughter this party which I respect. I respect that but like you got to take one home. Yeah, I don't I wonder if anybody got lucky. I don't think so. I don't think so either Luann really tried with Tony swooping at its he also seemed like he was 24 years old. He right he did like say next to the Renda like she looked like his mother like it. Just did not feel right. No, he looked way too. I mean, but he could be like a really young like 30 ish like early 30s. He's definitely not mid 30s, which I think is way too young for them. Yeah, but 30s is way too young for them. But I mean they don't think so. I mean maybe for a night. Yeah, and I think that's the goal. Yeah the goal but Luann definitely swooped in on another one estonia's Sonia's people. I can't yeah, and she The guy that she was talking to is also use kind of good-looking her friend Luann's friend. Yeah. He was a bad. Yeah. I kind of wonder what yeah. I'm just curious how everything happened. Um, I mean, I think anything better than Tom anything is better than Tom a lot of things are better than Tom and so yeah Sonya goes on this blurt like vomit of the mouth spray around Mario first. She tells Mario that Ramona has a date coming good for her and yeah, I was here for it. It Ramona tries to deny it and play it down a little bit, but we know that he was a real date. Yeah, and they introduced they get introduced to one. Another is very awkward Kevin the day event kind of walked away uncomfortably. Well, yeah because I think at that point he realized he was just like a pond and Ramona scheme. Yeah Cat Mario. Yeah, and then Mario also was kind of like he I don't even think he looked at him when he shook his hand. No because I think he went there with the intention of thinking like him and Ramona we're going to like he was romantic date. I think he taught the way he walked in the way he came early walks in complimented her on her outfit like right when he got there like he believed that yeah. Hey, she had different and then his response to when he found out about the guy and he found out about her making out with Harry. Yeah other guy like his whole response like he just kind of crawled. Here's like a crowd that just crawled back into his shell and he was like mortified. Yeah, the Harry The Hairy one is I think maybe the more disgusting 1/2 because he probably knows is Harry and it's just like really I was a Biba's husband and so had hooked up with him. Yeah. Yeah. So the hairy thing was definitely and Sonia course spilled the beans about that too. And I love how Ramona try to like. No. No you were yeah your story is like know you loved it. Yeah. I mean, do you have anything that party was pretty it was a pretty awesome party it And I loved it. Like even though Tinsley had a crime scene like it didn't last like 10 minutes long like all her other crying Susan and her sister is like having her sister that helped. Yeah. Okay cool. Let's go ahead and move into some news and gossip. Okay guys. So first things first there is some nasty talking's in the street about our girl Bethenny Kelly Bensimon claims Bethenny Frankel didn't care. R if she miscarried with her daughter Bryn an excerpt from her talk with out in the wild podcast obtained by don't the done radar our line horse Kelly slams Bethenny for allegedly ignoring her pregnancy issues during the filming of scary Island. She goes on to say she was pregnant the entire time and she was having serious issues with her unborn child bran, and she's flying back and forth pretending to film with her dying father in LA, but They just filming in the car and never saw him says Vince mom and I'm like you want me to film with this woman that doesn't even care about her kid and her stomach. She's like, oh if I miscarriage whatever Bensimon says that she was shocked Frankel continued to film despite scary medical crisis. She was having serious serious complications and just didn't and I'm sorry and I just don't understand why we were filming and why she was even there and st. John. Kelly Bensimon just needs to go away why plaque get her off of my screen close that Tab and never go back like she's the you know, the annoying porn pop up that like keeps coming up on your screen. You're like, I looked at porn one time in 2007. Why do I still have pop ups like go away? I can't stand Kelly Bensimon and I didn't understand her whole story when she's just like, you know, Bethenny was putting her baby in danger by flying back and forth even though she wasn't really flying back and forth. So then I was like, how is she Putting her baby in danger, then you would be more on like she's like people just don't get me no like oh God also, like Bethenny also came out and claim that all this is false. Yeah, but I also just don't understand the whole bitter house X housewife thing. Like when you're off the show you're off the show like you trying to make a story line for yourself or anything like that. It's just so unnecessary to me see but I don't even think she's contrived enough to think of making press like I think she just Says stupid stuff and like, you know I'm saying it's gonna get picked out of the shiba. He's gonna get picked up and this podcaster props for the podcaster sent out a press release and like got it out there. Yeah moving on you have some news. I do have some news. So Radar Online hasn't got a battle of Radar Online has reported that there's going to be a major cast shake-up for next season on Real Housewives of New York and that they are currently casting new women are Reviewing new women to potentially cast next season so they said that Bethany Sonia duranta and Tinsley are definitely safe moving into the new season and the two that are potentially on The Chopping Block are Luann and Ramona what? Yeah, so they're saying that Luann because of her recent run-ins with the law and violating her probation that they're concerned that she's becoming too much of a liability. I could see that and so they're considering not bringing her back and then Ramona they're saying she her story lane. Has run its course and they're ready to mix things up the same way they did when they got rid of Jill and Alex and all of those. Oh geez, I mean Ramona is like the OG of New York though. You can't like boot her a little and I totally understand. Yeah. Well, then I'm here for and I think I'm curious as to why tensley's on The Chopping Block like I think she's young and they also said that the women that they're currently interviewing our friends of Tinsley and Bethany Dave. Yeah, if they keep telling me around they have Bring a friend of hers because I think her storyline is tired. I think they're trying to reinvigorate the cast and bring in some younger women, which I understand but like how many times have we tried to bring in the younger women and it just never works out like who is that Kristen? Taekman? That was a hot mess. No, I need we need to keep Ramona Let's Lose Lou and bring in a friend of tensley. Yeah, I think that was the game. Yeah, I think that would be smart. I think we can definitely get rid of loo. Like I don't Any of that nobody likes her anymore? Nobody likes her. I'm tired of the Cabaret. If we I don't think other season with Cabaret have not going to be here. I don't think people even like her damn Cabaret. No, I think they go for like the the the fun of it like to say that I went to Luann's Cabaret Luann from Real Housewives of New York City. I mean coming from Leanne she sings to songs other people seeing other songs, it's not it's not worth the money. Let's jump into some prediction. AfterBuzz TV predictions. All right. So I mean we saw in this the trailer for next week, but I think all them are going to like literally leave it all out there for Lou let her know what the happening is and she's still just not going to receive it. And I think this is going to carry on the reunions. I think it's going to be bad blood all the way around and yeah, I mean, I'm looking forward to it's gonna be really great drama, but I just I really wish That Luann would just like take a step back and like see and also it sounds like Bethenny outs her about drinking. Yeah, so it I mean, I feel like this is Tom all over again. And this is the issue we run into with Luann every single season is that like there's something that she just does not want to face and like trying to get her trying to convince her of it is like yelling at a brick wall because it's not going to change. Yeah, you know, this brick wall just happens to have lots of boa feathers and jewels draped on their honey and Giovanni. And really ugly statement necklaces and I think it's time for her to like really look at herself in the mirror and realize like if all of your friends are saying this it's probably not because you're successful and they want to tear you down. It's probably because they're your friends and they're looking out for you. Yeah. Yeah the same way they looked out for you when they dragged you back into rehab last summer. Yeah, I agree. I agree. I think yeah, I think it's definitely going to come to a head but I don't know and I feel bad like I want Bethany's having like a breakdown. Yeah. Bethany I don't know though, but she making it about herself like this. One moment. Where she like I don't know. No, I don't think she's I don't I my prediction is that I don't think she's going to make it about herself. I think she just finally reached that limit. Okay, because she was one of the people that like really helped pick her up off the ground when she fell I think there was a little bit of hope that like, there's going to be some Redemption. There's going to be some gratitude like there's gonna be some there's an ounce of humanity in this person and she's going to like have a She's going to have that she's going to have an epiphany and she's actually going to realize that like she needs to change her behavior. And I think this was Bethany's breaking point where she finally realized like you're not going to have an epiphany. You're not going to have a turning point and you know here I have extended myself for you and you didn't care about me ever. That's true. I totally forgot the like amount of investment Bethany put into getting Lou to the place in which you it was as I don't know. Yeah. Well like going through her issues with Dennis like her and Dennis were on and off and she was engaged. And she was hiding it and you know, and then he died and like she you know, Luann was like never there for her at all last year. Yeah, I get it. I get it. I'm looking forward to it. Yeah, it's gonna be a good episode and we're going to be so good. Fuck. Yes. I'm so glad that you came and joined me guys. We will be here again next week. I am Chelsea stuck Jones. You could find me on Instagram @ C underscore S Jones and everything else. I'm doing at Chelsea Star Jones.com. Get away. Yeah, I'm Zach Peter. Thank you for having me back this week Chelsea. Yeah, I know lien will do a fantastic job taking it back next week. 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Chelsea Stark-Jones and guest Zach Peter break down Part 2 of the New York Housewives trip to Miami. LuAnn continues to neglect the women’s concerns over her arrogance, Tinsley gets in her feelings, and Ramona finds herself stuck between two lovers. ABOUT THE REAL HOUSEWIVES OF NYC AFTER SHOW: To a certain group of people in New York, status is everything...and with status comes plenty of drama to unpack on THE REAL HOUSEWIVES OF NEW YORK CITY AFTER SHOW. We’ll recap all the buzz-worthy moments from the show, from the fabulous to the fights from our favorite Big Apple ladies. Tune in here for ALL the tea as we review, recap and provide in-depth discussions of the latest episodes! Who knows! You might just see some familiar cast member faces. ABOUT REAL HOUSEWIVES OF NYC: The Real Housewives of New York City (abbreviated RHONY) is an American reality television series that premiered on March 4, 2008 on Bravo. Developed as the second installment of The Real Housewives franchise, following The Real Housewives of Orange County, it has aired seven seasons and focuses on the personal and professional lives of several women residing in New York City. The series originally focused on LuAnn de Lesseps, Bethenny Frankel, Alex McCord, Ramona Singer, and Jill Zarin. The eighth season lineup of housewives will consist of de Lesseps, Frankel, Singer, Sonja Morgan, Carole Radziwill, Dorinda Medley, and newcomer Jules Wainstein. Of the original housewives, Frankel initially left after the third season before returning for the seventh; McCord and Zarin left after the fourth season; and de Lesseps was a friend of the housewives in the sixth. The remaining housewives joined in later seasons: Morgan in the third, Radziwill in the fifth, Medley in the seventh, and Wainstein in the eighth. Other housewives include Kelly Killoren Bensimon (seasons 2–4), Cindy Barshop (season 4), Aviva Drescher (seasons 5–6), Heather Thomson (seasons 5–7), and Kristen Taekman (seasons 6–7). 