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Welcome to popcorn Tom featuring movie discussion news and interviewed popcorn talk we talk movie and now here's pop corn stalks anatomy of a movie. Welcome, welcome. Welcome movie fans. How's it going today big to news big movie and we're here at anatomy of a movie to break it down to two well expose everything and talk about this this movie that well knees actually it begs of discussion and with me my awesome gracious beautiful how co-hosts there's the Serafini. Hello everyone. Yes, I'm here. Hello, everyone it again. My name is Dimitri Panos and we are going to be breaking down and discussing Captain Marvel marvelous Emmons over here. We we just Eminem anyway, so for those of you who have not joined us in you are joining us for the first time. Well, hello and welcome. Thanks for joining. And for those who join us on a weekly basis, well, you know the rundown we we go in depth of these movies and we spoil what we talked spoilers. We talk Park Points. We talk twists of which this movie had quite a few. So if you haven't quite seen the movie yet, I do suggest go see the movie then join us later because we're up in the ethernet's once this shows the live stream is done where there forever. Perpetuity as Marissa likes to say our favorite word he would take so and again, we always love you for you to be part of the discussion as well. The somebody have our feet up if anybody shines in so you if you are watching us live chime on in and perhaps will even reach out loud. And then of course once the show is done, you're always welcome to chat which is fantastic. So with Without further achoo, we're going to start off with our opinions and I will start off with ladies first Marissa. All right, so I went into this film not knowing anything really Oh Captain Marvel like most comic book movies that I go into. So I'm just, you know viewing it as an actual movie Watcher and I enjoyed it. I had fun. I've always been a fan of Brie Larson ever since she was like 11 years old. I'm in the mood Disney Channel original movie on the right track. Yeah back in her career. Like have you been a fan of her for that long? Yeah, I guarantee you haven't so I've always been a fan of Brie Larson. So I knew she was going to be fun. She was going to be dramatic and her character had so many different range of emotions and she was great. So I was all-in for just her and I didn't care if it was DC movie like our sorry. Don't kill me a comic book movie. All right, it's Marvel Marvel. Don't kill me. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, but for reai. Didn't go in for Brie Larson not for karmic write a sense and it was fun. I enjoyed it. I didn't know the character or the backstory and going into it. She didn't know either so that's where I felt was realistic because we're also trying to figure out her character while she's trying to figure it out and I was just along for the ride. There was good moments. Samuel Jackson was a great great. What does chemistry will definitely get into it? But honestly I had fun. I really did actually enjoy this film cool. Yeah, I liked it. I wasn't crazy about it. The way everyone else is crazy about it, but I did enjoy it. I didn't know what to expect with the Brie Larson casting. I was so surprised by that. I love her as an actress. I think she's phenomenal but I just didn't know what it would be like to have her in a lead role as a superhero and what I love about how they did. This was like as you can see in the picture up here. She wasn't overly sexed up. It was a very feminist movie and it still had this balance of femininity. Masculinity where there's this overlying theme of emotions and just having emotions make you weak or does it make you strong and we ultimately find out but what it means to be human and she can still be a superhero and still be humid by having her emotions and that's not a weakness. So I I really loved what this movie did thematically I love the feminist themes. I thought Brie Larson's performance performance was great and I loved that. It wasn't like just another like as much as I love Scarlett Johansson. It wasn't like an over weight like, you know, sexed-up portrayal of a superhero cool cool. Yeah, I again and for those who are huge highly detailed Marvel fans. Welcome if your comic book fans, welcome, you know, if we make a mistake be gentle be kind you can point it out. Let us know and you know, because we may say that Things from a movie perspective and I'll be straight up. I as much as I've read Comics never really followed up on Captain Marvel other than knowing who the character was but that's about it. So want to get that out of the way just be kind you can point out if we make a mistake. That's all good. I don't mind being corrected, but just don't be an idiot about it. That's all so in regarding captain. Orville, I actually man I ended up really liking this movie a lot more than I anticipated. I thought it was really structured. Well, I first offer for a superhero movie. I thought that it was structured magnificently. This wasn't a movie that that like really takes off out of the gate it took a little while to start really getting into it but I appreciated it because I looked at it as if they were taking time to put the players on the board game so that you understood the world that we're about to enter with cree and scroll and and we are going back to the 90s and this flashback stuff that was going on and they set it up rather nicely so that when things really started to chug along you understood I liken it to if you watch or podcast of cocoa what Brilliant about Pixar is they give you the rules of the world at first? They tell you this this this like you can do this here you can do this here so that when the movie gets along they explain it to you at the beginning and then once you're in the world, you're already like educated but you don't even know that you're being educated and that to me is brilliant and that's what happens here. I felt that Brie Larson was was I thought you was great even more. So I thought her chemistry with Sam Jackson. Amazing. We'll talk about that but it really felt. Well it felt real and I know that they're quite close good friends in real life and it just seemed to like come off on screen which I always love when that happens, but there were no throwaway support characters either everybody had something to do and or say, I love the woman who played her best friend Rambo. She had some quite amazing moments as did her daughter. So again, there's no throw a cow. Doctors I never felt that this movie was overstuffed. I felt the pacing was really solid and the movie was that a really decent time and I didn't feel bored the action sequences or a ton of fun The Nostalgia aspect which a was it was so fun tremendously fun, but it didn't beat you over the head with it. It was like here were in the 90s and they had these little jokes the music both score and Source music fantastic. Makes me wish that like rock music Still mattered as it did in the 90s. So I love the 90s. Yeah soundtrack which incorporates score and all the source music and you just yeah these bands like why don't we have this kind of music today made me think of that a lot and by the end of this movie number one, dad had some touching moments powerful, but it made me. Now cannot wait to see Avengers and game where I was kind of lukewarm on and on Infinity War II mean I liked it and not love it. But now I can't wait to see end game and how that game will end. Now that we have Captain Marvel on the board. It was great. So there we go. So, it's fun. Yeah. It was just a really solid movie. I started an IMAX. It was gorgeous. It was actually filmed. For IMAX, like literally saw the picture stretch from floor to ceiling it was on certain scenes. Awesome. So I you mentioned you're seeing it tomorrow again singing again tomorrow and 3D and 3D. Yeah 3D. I can't remember if it's I'm going to be the 3D real experience. Yeah. Are you trying to pick up on things? You might have missed the first time or why do you want to see it? Yeah. I'm actually seeing it again with my boyfriend. So there yeah, I mean I want to see Again, because I really did have a good time and and I do think it's a movie that there are little things that you can pick up on especially now that we know the story and how it unfolds because at the beginning it's a little bit of a mystery because as you said as Carol Danvers is trying to learn about herself and why is she on this crazy world? And it's very Jason Bourne ish. I almost like I had no memory anymore Dart but not knowing Who he has a who like eating just important like if you've ever seen those film. Yeah, he starts off. He he realizes he has a bunch of skill sets. It doesn't know his background kind of has Amnesia. Not that she has full great Amnesia, but like what doesn't know her history. She doesn't know her background. She only knows a few people in her life. And that's it. He already has that skill set in the fighting techniques and stuff, but she doesn't know why and what and I enjoyed that because we're learning also why we do how did she get to where she is now and how it Piece together was really well done. Because in the hands of a wrong like the wrong director. It could have been just a muddled confusing meth. And I think that they pieced everything all the pieces of the puzzle with are you just have to really go along for the ride thing action for it all to come together and we're really comes off when when Marvel becomes Marvel. You're like, yeah. Okay that all makes Sense, so and I know we'll talk casting but I was I've been neglecting your duties. If it didn't talk about Ben mendelsohn and Annette Bening who to who are also I felt very fabulous. It's good to see well and that banning it in a superhero movie. I mean Michelle Pfeiffer has had her turn already, right? So she's in the NC you so why not have an at Benning Ben mendelsohn will talk about his passing has been imparted. No, Michelle, Michelle Pfeiffer. Yeah, you Williams. Yeah, Pfeiffer was an Ant-Man and Wasp. That's right. Yeah, you're right. So all these comic books. It's the 21st. Empty Jesus. It's a lot to track look great. I'm glad you brought that up. Let's talk about that for for a minute. It's my one drawback at this point about Marvel movies. Like I wonder I wonder be you know, yes. Yes, this is a standalone movies. Most of the Marvel movies are Standalone, but they incorporate so much information from the other movies like the test Iraq. Let's talk about the Tesseract right a place such a huge part of the MCU that this movie universe that I had to do a refresher and go the chess Iraq seems to have been in almost every movie. But where did it start off with because I know we've seen it in Captain America. The First Avenger Age of Ultron Age of Ultron the first Avengers movies for I re-watched Infinity War literally. All right, and then in the middle watch Captain Marvel, it's in this one and if you take this story because it's technically ahead of all the other stories you're like, so where does the texture actually originated? Yeah one has yet to know it's crazy. And so that's the one thing. It's the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Verse has become so epic in scope that it's getting to a point that the enjoyment of these movies if you don't know some of these finer details on how because where they're smart. Is it all Blends into the other movies, right and it and once you figure that out and there is an enjoyability Factor, you can piece it all together. But if you are new like if Captain Marvel was Your first movie which I saw some kids in the audience when I saw it and I'm thinking maybe a was their first Marvel movie Spider-man but read well Spider-Man. Well, yeah the wall homecoming. Yeah, but like they're not gonna understand like this history of the Tesseract. Like what did you say 21 movies now with Casey, this is the 21st movie. Yeah that actually that sounds about right especially in the NCAA. That's a lot of movie. It is sown it many. So many characters is so many years exactly. So it's it is hard to because we're like we're fans of Marvel. I can't speak for all of us, but not all of us are the die-hard right fan. So it is hard to keep all those details and for you really DieHard Marvel fans. Well, here's an opportunity for you. You should put a timeline of all these Marvel movies. I'm sure I do that because that would be great have a legend a key so to speak so Anyways, but yeah, I really think that they weave her in quite nicely because we know well we know that she is a we know that she's going to show up in end game not because the new trailer just dropped this week, which is really good. But because if you saw the end of endgame her pager, the pager is really funny which was which was brought up over here. So you can see the her logo, I guess so, you know, she's going to end up there. R and I just think that it's fantastic that this movie takes place in the 90s where we know endgame or Infinity war was more well today yes to be. Yeah, so I think that's how we'd have that 20 plus your job. Yeah, you're like a little she still looks the same even though we know she's young and stuff. But like she does look older more mature more put together to help the Now Avengers. Yeah. Yeah, it's just crazy how it all just literally comes full circle. They do such a great job connecting. That's the one thing that I always wonder even when I think about JK Rowling and how she managed to tie like seven books together and when I think about Stanley and how like how do all of these characters come together in a way where everything coincides and there's no like plot holes for the most part for the most but such a huge Universe when we see plot holes in movies. They're only like it's just one movie and it's two hours long and we find like in potholes and in this entire universe with all these complex relationships and Dynamics it all seamlessly fits. It just kind of shows the brain power and the creativity of Stanley and I even love, you know, the opening sequence they did where they had this Montage for him. Yeah. I want to talk about that looks about that that many like so my emotional before watching it I wasn't expecting that. Yeah, there was really great. We will bring that up for sure. I think but yeah, I think that with Kevin feige And Marvel have done is once Iron Man really took off pun intended that they just started this roadmap and it's like okay. We need to go from point A to The Avengers how we going to do this? And then we have the Avengers and then we got to go to another Avengers movie and how do we do this? And I can only imagine that they're writers room like when they bring on a director and they bring on the writer. This is these are the Beats you need. Add to these are the Beats you need to hit and crossover. And this is what we're going to mention and then we're going to have this button at the end of the movie because people will remember the like it really is like to be a script coordinator on this movie. You got to be like you're earning your keep as far as I'm concerned when you're doing that for this movie and you're right. I think I think from a from a writing standpoint from a cinematic writing standpoint. It is crazy considering to that they're not working with same directors all the time. Hmm, you know and to their credit they will bring in new blood or bring in people that aren't necessary that you wouldn't associate with superhero movie like big tent pole movies. Like they are they give the keys to the car. So to speak or to the Ferrari to people who don't come from tentpole moviemaking indie film. Umm, sometimes comedy TV and they say hey guys, we're going to give you a chance. We like your style. We're like your sense of story. There are also people who are going to be excited to be working on a motion picture. So they're not going to fight back and they just build this cohesiveness and you can tell that they set them down and this is where we need. This is where we need to go and that to me is genius it actually to is one of the biggest mistakes that the DC Universe has Done. They seemed to rush especially those the those first like Batman Superman. They rushed to Justice League. They always try to reverse-engineer. It was almost like they didn't have a roadmap where Marvel has a roadmap veins. Also. I mean like and this is so not a Marvel vs. DC kind of Mmm Yeah commentary go watch our other popular the same characters over and over. Again, how many iterations Batman have you seen how many iterations of Superman Genesis of characters? They take the same characters and reuse different actors over and over and over. Yeah, at least Marvel they set so many different new characters so many different new franchises within a big umbrella. That is Marvel's there are more characters and mortgage-backed stories to develop and that's why I still think MCU. Is more Pearl event and that yes, Justin movie sake and storytelling sake there's higher here to work with. No, I well again. They've just roadmap to everything out. They know where they started they know where they want to sort of kind of and an arc. I mean if with every Avengers movie, it's the end of a like a series and you get up to the Avengers where the of the individual movies and then we bring the heroes together for an Avengers movie. So yeah, I think that the the Marvel Cinematic Universe has done a fantastic job of interweaving all the characters and making it not overly confusing. So and if you choose and you jumped in the middle, all these movies are available on Blu-ray you can catch up but when you're talking 21 films each movie is over two hours. It's a lot. It's a lot of movie watching not bad movie watching you could be watching worst movies for sure. Captain Marvel is definitely not it worse movie. I really enjoyed Captain Marvel. So let's let's let's get it to go ahead. Oh, yeah. It kind of reminded me. There was something about the vibe of Captain Marvel that reminded me of Guardians of the Galaxy and I feel like you can kind of you know, if you were to draw a parallel between different characters. I feel like the protagonist of Guardians of the Cat Guardians. Of the Galaxy played by Chris pride is kind of like the male counterpart for Brie Larson's character. I just feel like they have very similar personalities where they're like snarky and kind of quirky and there's like a certain nerdy quality about them, but they're extremely lovable and Fierce and also incredibly underestimated and they just look like regular people on top of that. I'm glad you brought that up because there is at least I saw and again for You Marvin For you Marvel folk out there, please. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but in both movies something happens to the main characters that the characters do something in each movie that no other person can do and that is they can touch what an infinity stone. So Star-Lord in Guardians picks up an infinity stone saves the day if I am correct. There is an infinity stone in Captain Marvel and She just picks it up. Like it's a rock and a beach like nothing happens to her. If you see anything pretty Stone, you know that the Tesseract yes being an infinite he's right and and that's her power. She is powered by a tesseract when you so but I I noticed that the other thing that that because I had a similar feeling it was the music like musical really 90s. Yes. Illusion touches of like the Blockbuster. Yeah crashing into it and just that feeling of nostalgia and then being like oh, this is like a shithole Galaxy like, I don't know it was just funny like there's some Advanced bananas were great time and I kid you not every single day of my girl in my car. I wasn't in 90s R&B music 90's pop that don't it's still better music than all the shit. That's really stupid. Yeah. Yeah, so I mean so the music I I believe I mean the music helps Drive Guardians and and it's two movies and the music in this movie really drives the the Captain Marvel because of what it said in and it keyed off alive for my audience when you know, I'm Only Happy When It Rains came on the girl next to me, she was like dancing in her seat and I'm like, I didn't know she was I'm like, oh, well, she's really digging this movie. So yes. I think that is a valid point that they are similar in those ways in the characters of someone because they're each have powerful enough to hold on to an infinity stone word vaporized anybody most anybody else. Yeah, and that razor-sharp wit. I think personality-wise it's like it wasn't as you know intense as Ryan Reynolds its character and Deadpool, but there was that like underlying snarkiness. We're just like kind of like a smartass. She had good snark backed up by looks like she could like shoot it like she would just look at somebody or she would smile at somebody like marks. You just like it was great Charming. That's yeah, and that's how I fell in love with the character and that's how the character made me laugh. I think it was um, you know that said, he didn't really get to know Carol Danvers and that's a that that's a valid point. I felt that I got to know her just enough for me, too. Hair and I did end up Carrie and what was brilliant for me was I want to I want to talk about lashonna Lynch who played Rambo her best friend Rambo. I felt that I learned a lot about Carol Danvers their her through her. Yeah, and that to me was amazing. One of the best scenes I think in the movie was when the both of them are in the house, and she was just telling them and she was telling her the Carol Danvers. I knew the guy was just such an emotional seeing and from there. I learned about Carol Danvers through her friend that was discovered. I liked that. She knew that she was still alive and she was out there and she's like, yeah, my biggest fear was that I knew you were out there and there was nothing that I could do about it. Yeah, so powerful. It really was someone's missing for six years. He's such an integral part of your life and your child's life and you know that there's nothing you can do about it and you're Clueless. Someone that you people in the military or Air Force or in such close proximity with one another where it's like a lifelong Sisterhood Bond, so it was nice to kind of see that play out and also the diversity of like not just having someone as a side character when they're a woman of color and actually having them in a role that is like such an important and also heartwarming room. I love that. Yeah. I thought that it was played out in such an authentic way, right? You know what I loved about their relationship is that for like two folds is That it's it was nice to see a human of regular just another regular human the Friendship because that also made Carol more human and more realistic in that sense. And it's also refreshing to because I'm just going back throughout all the movies and stuff is hard to find another actual just true friend who's not part of the heroes scheme regular human being and it was refreshing to see just like a normal person be a good friend to our hero. And that's because that's that's actually rare and then the second part. I love about it. It's a healthy relationship. It's a healthy friendship from another girl empowering another girls. Like right that's also rare to see ya because I'm tearing down getting upset. You got to have another woman left up another woman look like that's what we need. And I think that's what this movie did. So well it says we had healthy realistic female empowering friendships. Yeah. I couldn't agree with you more and I think It said I think it's part of the backbone of Captain Marvel. And again, it goes back to there was none of the Supporting Cast that were throwaways. Everybody had really great purpose here including Rambo and her daughter. The daughter was fantastic as well. Yeah. Yeah and and they were very endearing characters to fall in love with to your point again. Yeah in a superhero movie you don't you don't always get that. Actually, one of the aspects of Age of Ultron that I appreciated the most was the downtime the movie took were we met Hawkeyes family and like all the other superheroes are like he has a family like, what are you talking about? And we got to see that and to me that was again sometimes in the Marvel Universe. They have the time to do this to introduce this and to me it just lends to the The character you end up there's depth in their steaks because if that character dies, like there's the family that you've met and fallen in love with Rambo is going to be there for Captain Marvel and I just really thought that their dialogue is great when Captain Marvel shows up for the first time remember wasn't like the surprised. She was just like yeah and then that their gear yeah, we knew you'd be back, you know, it was like it was really Yeah, it was it was a fantastic moment. And I think one of the one of the strengths of this film another very for me emotional moment was the Montage of her standing up. It's in the trailer but in the context of the movie when you see it and then you know, the final stand up is hers Captain Marvel just made me I applauded I was like, this is great. I really it was it was just very well. Done and for a character that you don't know a whole hell of a lot about that you're learning about for it to do that emotionally. Yeah, it works. You know, I think you're it really works. So let's talk about another relationship which is we're going to talk first about Sam Jackson and then we're going to get into Ben mendelsohn but Sam Jackson. Yeah, Nick Fury's relationship with me. Vol I thought again the a heartbeat of this movie their relationship and their chemistry together. I thought was just brilliant and you could buy the fact that well, I mean again in real life, they're very close friends, but I felt that they were bonding so well in this movie, I want to see a movie at just the two of them right now initially that role was supposed to go to Keanu Reeves and he turned it down. Yeah, which I thought was interesting because I don't know I kind of would have wanted to see Keanu Reeves with Brie Larson that it's kind of like a an odd pairing. I just love Keanu Reeves in general, but I just fine. I thought the dynamic was Samuel Jackson and free Larson was refreshingness. Yeah, just like that. It was like a wider age Gap and you know, his acting is always brilliant and he can go from playing a villain to playing someone with redeemable qualities just like that. So, I don't know I and he brings so much humor to to the role versus like I feel like someone like Keanu Reeves is like All and edgy but he doesn't have that necessarily that seem like humor. Yeah, where's with Samuel Jackson he can just turn that on and I think that's what makes this movie. Like that's why I was reminded of Guardians of the Galaxy was the humor in it was a Cheesy it was like fun and it was I don't know. It was like quirky. Yeah, the the Marvel movies. Well, I'm sorry Marissa you were going to say something. It's just funny because people a lot of times they forget that Brie Larson and Sam L. Jackson have been in other films together there. Chemistry is already genuine. It's already directed him in her movie. There were things like Kong they are longtime friends. So their relationship on screen is just genuine just translates and it's fun to see they were just how you can tell they were having fun together. There are moments. I was like are you even acting that's like and you get paid for this crazy Marissa. I felt the same way. I felt the sarcasm right that would go between them again. You can't pull that off unless you really know the person. Have that chemistry and it worked erase absolutely genuine and it's fun because yeah, I would totally take another film with just these two. Yeah. It doesn't have to be comic book movie could just be anything. Yeah, and but it's also believable to because there are times where he helped her and she helped him. It was a very mutual type of relationship agreed and I really felt and again, some people have said, oh seem to Nick Fury was wasted in this room the way I look at it is Nick Fury has been in a good handful of these movies and I think the he's like a kind of terrain. It's Common Thread but think about his screen time and I think outside of maybe Captain America Winter Soldier. He's that character is had the most screen time in this movie. You know, he is a Supporting Cast like he's part of The rounded cast Nick Fury is in this movie a lot. I do recall him in Captain America the Winter Soldier being, you know being in that movie. He just you could jump but Nick Fury usually just pops up for yeah one or two scenes and all the MCU. Yeah. He doesn't look like majority of them. He just pops in and out and that's it. Yeah, it doesn't have his meteor as a role or much else to do in this movie. He did stuff and I loved M with Coulson, you know, I love seeing him we both worked on Shield. Yeah. So yeah, I again I didn't think he was wasted at all. I thought Sam Jackson was great. And again the dynamic between he be Larson between Fury and Captain Marvel. He knows the strength that she has and it's because of her that prompts more or less the Avenger initiative where we got to go out and find like she Be the only one, you know, I sort of enjoyed that as well. All right, so let's talk about Ben mendelsohn. I thought it was the best trick casting of the year. I think decade. Yeah. I mean at least the last five years Ben mendelsohn's been around for a long time. I believed you and I were having a conversation how we secure and It's great. So so the scrolls are being at the beginning of the movie. They're set up as the bad guys. They're the bad aliens. And once you see that, it's Ben mendelsohn at least for me the viewer like for me. It was almost too obvious. It was like, oh, it's him of course is always the bad guy always he's yes, he's one of those character actors who Place that the personality type where he's always the Bad Guy Bad villain the smug guy that you just want to punch. I mean, yes, but he's great at it. That's what he does for a plastic but he can play good too. But I'm going back to like Dark Knight Rises, you know, he was in the villain and ready player one. He was the villain in Rogue one. No one's there's a there's a commonality of these one. So when you see his face you immediately think It just sets you off and go bad guy. Yeah, but when the twist comes in in the last three quarters of the movie, like where are the last half? I actually loved it loved it and Ben mendelsohn's turn and turning the character from from being like the vilified villain and he's the one actually that you're going to be protecting and I thought he was great. I really liked that turn those wonderful twist and it's also It character building for him and just just as an actor like personality actor building because he can now play the good guy and the bad guy because now we felt more for him and I realized the actual backstory and what was happening to him. And then Jess has them upon his family and friends and stuff and you feel for him and he miss humanistic way, right? Like even though he's an alien psycho. Yeah, we know what that's like because it grounded him even more with human kind of problem, right and It sounds like yeah, I can refer you knowing that you know, the creek completely screwed over everyone you loved right? Yeah, I think I also like thematically this was such an important lesson in the movie where people that you think are the other or the alien or you know are the villains and then you learn to love what you didn't know before because your perspective changes once you understand the common humanity and the suffering that goes on and how Like sometimes the other is way more relatable than we think but we create these divisions because they don't look the same or they have a different practice or a different set of not even set of values or morals at the end of the day. Like everyone's kind of looking for their own self interest and the interest of their people. So what makes someone good or bad is if anyone threatens that self-interest or that autonomy, so I just thought it was like interesting like so many great themes in this movie together and it was nicely It was well done because again talking about the trick crack casting when you see Jude Law. He's very easy easily acceptable as a good guy has a likeable guy. Hey, he's played bad guys before but when you see him and the way, he conducts himself. Yeah, of course, he's the good guy. He's you know, he's the leader of her Battalion or that they're the Star Command. You can get it he's training her, you know, nothing. Kind of like exposing himself to be harmed by her and you're brave like, oh, he's like this this cool coach. She's like not really looking out for her like you kind of like because someone who's like willing to expose themselves like that. You normally have this like yes sense of trust like okay trust them. They're not going to do anything. Absolutely. There's like some openness there, but then we're just like, wow what a turn of events. It was a good turn of events. I mean, I really I bite into it and when it happened I was like well, okay it wins because I didn't see it coming. Saying it may be there may be some people can make the argument that they did whether they've read comic books. I don't know. I didn't see it coming and that made the movie far more interesting to me because I didn't it wasn't predictable and and the people that I mean Babylon 5 the television series did this as well, but it had a five season Arc to change characters around but this did it into little over two plus hours and when you turn the characters around and they flip-flopped, Go. Okay, that works. I like it. And then I really love Ben mendelsohn. It was like really really solid. So it was a really well played and it made the movie that much more enjoyable and we talked we did talk about Annette Bening. She was great when she was dancing to some of the 90s music. Yeah, but that was a great Jennifer example of how it's like people that I wouldn't expect like she was in The Kids Are Alright, like people that I wouldn't expect to be in a superhero movie and then just doing an excellent job at it. Yeah, it's just like I've kind of like put them in this box of like, oh, they're serious actors their dramatic actors and this is still a dramatic role, but I just it's so funny how I'm just like wow, you see so much versatility. Now with people that you wouldn't expect being in this woman, and she she even said herself that I she herself is not a big comic book fan, but her all of her friends and her family are so they're the ones who had to Actually explain to her the stories and the characters and so I can she she immediately she took the role mostly just to appease her family of course and you know, and it's funny because my history with Annette Bening and she doesn't know me so but I'm just like watching at the movies. I always remember her from The Great Outdoors what you're great with Phil John Kasich is great and You know and then other movies that I always admired of her were grifters. Were she plays alongside John Cusack? It's on cable. All right. Now if you haven't cut the cord and you have the HBO's of the world and all that stuff look out for the grifters if you haven't seen it, and that bending is stellar and iMovie. So she's playing different roles and drama and what not. It was just it's great to see a Renaissance. That Hollywood is is is utilizing women who have who have aged fine like a fine wine and that they're not just like staying with Meryl Streep, you know, I mean Michelle Pfeiffer has had a lovely Renaissance. It's wonderful to see here on the big screen and it's wonderful to see Annette Bening on the big screen as well and to be in a commercial big movie as part of the universe, you know kudos to her if she only Better I think as with Michelle Pfeiffer, it adds class time because these are these are great actresses are all we need is like Bette Midler. Yeah, we can get I'm not gonna be there every week. I've seen every legitimate reason they don't even get me started because that's a whole nother show. Yep. Like I do love how Annette is in it because she is she's also great for another maternal role another strong female sure and this film to to look up to right. Yep. I agree keep them coming. Yeah, I totally agree. So now the this movie to the script was for Miss Miss Marvel. Was being bandied about in 2013. So six years this goes back to our the knew that we wanted to bring her in the road mapping this out. How are we going to do it? Well, it took six years and that's how long she was going from Earth to for this to happen, which again goes into the detail of Not in and they wanted to use Carol Danvers before she took the mantle of Captain Marvel. I think Captain Marvel is a much better title than Miss Marvel sounds like an Agatha Christie mystery. It sounds like my Christmas. Yeah, so and then in October 2014 that you and I was Captain Marvel would we be released on July 6th of 2018 didn't exactly hit that Faith, but they A lot of moving Parts. I forgive you in between that you gotta remember. It says like the Genesis of the writing process. Right? Like Marvel wasn't taken over by DC then right? There. It is. I don't know why I keep saying Marvel TV back, then it was in the last six years. It just shows like how much actually changes with all the moving parts right? Disney. Didn't know marble then no. No the who knew? Yeah, absolutely. We so, you know and then there were discussions apparently Ava d'oeuvre of a Duvernay. We're was in they had discussions with her. I'm glad no offense, but I didn't go with her. I think the duo that they picked I think they were really great. We had a man or a woman that together before we continue one of the ways we keep all these shows for you free is by our amazing sponsors. And today Spotify is one of our sponsors on Spotify. You can listen to all of your favorite artists and it's in one place for free. You don't even need a premium account Spotify as a huge catalogue of podcasts on every topic including the one you're listening to right now on Spotify. You can follow your favorite podcast. So you don't miss an episode premium users can even download episodes to listen to offline wherever they are and you can easily share what you're listening to with all your friends and following on Instagram. If you haven't done so already be sure to download the Spotify app and search for AfterBuzz TV on Spotify or browse podcasts in the your library tab. Also, make sure you follow us you never miss an episode of AfterBuzz TV because we had co-directors which again not a bad idea. You really Marvel uses this a lot think they did a really really good job. And you do yours was had to do directors. Yeah. Oh, yeah, the roots are brother. Yummy soup. Yep, Captain America first Avengers, like they've been they've been involved a lot and I hope these two lots of tarragon. So for them. Oh, absolutely and so Anna Boden and Ryan Act directed this and now they're within the MCU and I hope to see more of their stuff because I think they did a good job. Even if it's just a sequel to Captain Marvel. So we had no now the story Nicole Perlman Mega lefou and a Boden Ryan Fleck Geneva Robertson do arts. So we have women writing this a lot to into your point. You were talking feminism a woman's voice. I A lot of that did Shine through without but it was natural. Yeah, it wasn't like it's crowbarred in there. It kind of for me. It kind of felt like, you know like Wonder Woman Like yes. I I understand the importance of what Wonder Woman meant to cinema to theater to the comic book universe and for audiences. And I feel that Captain Marvel is similar because it can still mean the same thing. Like anybody can go to Wonder Woman but I but I it gives little girls the imagination. Yeah to this. I can be a superhero. This is the especially especially because of the flash bags. Honestly, just I think the the whole Origins part where we're seeing her as a child and we're seeing all the times that people are telling her. No you Can't no you can't do this and then they see like little girls who go watch this movie will see oh, but look at what she transformed into and even the powerful scenes with her best friend when she was like you didn't need to have like heat coming out of your hands or whatever Power is coming out of your hands to be a superhero. You've always been powerful. She knew her to be powerful before it was acknowledged by your super strength and I think I mean I thought that was a very powerful message and I also love how they did the - vaccine because it wasn't just her remembering something it was her kind of being like pseudo tortured / hypnotized into revealing facts about her background and we're kind of in the same boat as her where we're like what's going on? What's the truth? What's real what isn't so I think this movie did a lot of things brilliantly and I loved the message it gave two little girls and boys because little boys need to see this to their needs to be this Mutual understanding that women are Fierce and not just male not just like Meal like this every single time again. I don't even as a big little boy when I watch a movie like Wonder Woman or Captain Marvel, I never ate feel threatened. I just feel it's a superhero. It doesn't matter. I don't care if you're male or female if you give me somebody to care for and look up to yeah and admire. It doesn't matter to me. Yes. Should there be more women? Yeah. Absolutely. I don't I don't I don't argue that but it doesn't feel like if I watch a movie I said there's a meet the movie press if I watch a movie like A League of Their Own. They didn't make A League of Their Own because there was an urge to do it a need to do it was just a really good story. So I go seeing a movie like A League of Their Own which is an all-female cast. Yeah, and I don't feel like I'm compelled to do it because it's all women. I'm compelled to do it because it's a goddamn good movie. Yeah, and you walk out it's damn good movie when it was released in today and I wish more because there actually was a small group of like Fanboys and I was looking into this that were that were basically saying Brie Larson needs to smile more and that's why there was that very specific scene in the movie where the guy on the motorcycle is, like literally literally telling her like oh you need to smile more honey, and it's kind of that like patriarchal like like that disgusting like well, I just loved it when she sucked it was kind of like a commentary on Like the guys that are like, oh Brie Larson like why didn't you smile? Why didn't you do this kind of like that expectation on women to always be the perfect balance of whatever a man wants there to be and I want to like, well, let's talk a little bit about that because there was this whole trolling thing right but but women were a part of this too and and a lot of this happened before the movie even screened his like this is just ridiculous to me. How can you go? Wow, it's not how can you go in hate a movie that you hadn't seen it happens all the time. But why well it to what took to what end are you doing? This like you haven't seen the movie what and you know, I understand Brie Larson had made some comments that some people were a little bit turned off. On but still it's really right McGee executed correctly and Republic has surely been the intent and the reasons behind it. Absolutely was absolutely Marissa. I agree and I just don't know to what end because you know trolls. Sorry you lose when the movie comes out and ends up doing almost a hundred fifty four million dollars in its opening weekend if any The folks you help it get to that gross because of all the publicity that was given to this movie and let's face it. A lot of people wanted to go see this movie. So yeah, I just could never understand. What are you doing liked it? Because it just makes like they're not making these moves for you and you just want to this is your outlet that's social media. It's so unfair for the trolls to do that because in like I don't I want to bring up gender issues either but was like why so many trolls came out for this one because they haven't seen it was the first female lead and do you fell but but it's like if that was for if all the trolls came out and started hitting all the MC use because they're usually led by males. It'd be a completely different story. But because it was led by a female. We saw the trolls rear their ugly heads and that's really unfortunate. They are really is so not fair in such a disservice to the but you know, what else we've learned because of the Grocer's He's right. They scream the loudest. So it really again a hundred and fifty four million dollar opening weekend gross. That was not on a holiday weekend mind you that's nothing to sneeze at it's actually a damn good gross. So that really means that they scream the loudest but they really don't contribute the box office all that much when you think about it, they they could have and not on it and I'm willing to bet that this crowd of 10. Screams the loudest every other person went and saw Captain Marvel so they could yell and scream all they want. I'm willing to bet that their boycott was shortly lived come Thursday night or Friday Friday evening over the weekend Captain Marvel also. Add they added bonus that they already have and already set up Universe. They already have a loyal fan base. They're going to go see it. Anyways, no matter if they already made comments about it. Yeah that dog gonna go see him in and I do think that it's good for girls. I think, you know, it'll be awesome come Halloween time to see I Captain Marvel girls, you know in costume asking for you, but I think it's great for boys too. You know that there's nothing wrong. We're boys can't Wait to Super 8. They love superhero stuff little of the flying whatever the Friendship you've got aliens. They're going to love it anyways, and to your point about her her power. It was a great action fight scene when she was housing everybody and she had literally her hands were like kind of tied behind your back. She could use them and she still housing everybody just on technique. Okay, you know, that's fine. So that is finding and I also Brie Larson she spent months learning. Learning different types of martial arts fighting which good for her here. Didn't you pull a bus or something or push a button called the Jeeps and she's to the point where she was dead lifting 225 pounds not until I forget the the amount and said some other type of ways, but she was pulling an actual Jeep down the street. Yeah great can kick your ass and she's only a few like the mermaid to please. Yeah. He's like, yeah, I don't get it. She's incredible. And also the funniest part is like she's this and on such-and-such. She was like, oh but like get the cat away from me because I'm allergic and I'm gonna break out in hives. So hold up. That was funny. Everybody's talking about the cat. So we have to talk about the cap before we talk about grosses and all that fun stuff. So yeah, I mean look there before I saw the movie I heard a lot of people talking about the cat. Oh the cat steals the a movie. Oh the cat and when I was hearing that I would say to myself if the cat is stealing the movie and the movie really can't be that good and I'm not saying that because I too am allergic to cats and I'm not a big fan but I'm like this isn't a cat movie the cat was fine. The cats are deals hot scenes. He doesn't steal the movie. That's not a nice long time. It's not even let's be real about it. The plot point of the cat is what Stills the movie because when Have Nick Fury and Ben mendelsohn's character. Oh, forgive me. I forget what his character's name is and they're doing the analysis of the cat and the like going oh this this is such and such species. It's thales its threat. Its threat boarding is like off the charts and then they go to like they go to fury like guys just a humanoid non-threatening and all is it what do you mean and then like you see the little cat there, but then when you see what the cat can Do you like? Oh, okay. That's pretty funny. It was really fun to see Nick Fury who is like the least opposite kind of care. You would actually picture with the cat. He was just like petting inserting it and like it kind of soften him up and made him a shirt more vulnerable. But the moment that really like I thought the cat was used very well was it there was a scene where you had that the whole Kre-O population when they finally reunite with the family and stuff and they see the cat. They're all like, Everybody in the room was like no. It's a cat like the gave us some discussion like some do monoi everything. What do you put it up for? Yeah. I think that was a perfect use of the cat again playing against expectation of what we know is cats and it isn't and it works, you know, even in and he coughs up. The Tesseract is a fur ball at the end of the movie. So we are to deleted top there to like we had two buttons and you know, No, I thought. Yeah, the the with the remaining Avengers and you know, they have the thing and yeah, but he's around also if you think about it now that that Goose goose coughed it up if you think about Nick Fury now in the 90s has ownership over at the Tesseract. He is in possession but it gets stolen. I believe that's the Tesseract that gets stolen at the very beginning of the first Avengers movie, right? But like now in the 90s, you know at this point Nick Fury, you know position of the tether, right? There's too much to keep track of it is and that's what I was saying. Like if you're trying to convert also in this which is also yep. So, yeah, it's really impressive what they've been able to do is just great and and I like that button with the with remaining Avengers, they weren't in their superhero. Oh Garb, and they turn around. It's like I have no idea and it's heard. She's like, where's Fury? And it was like, all right, and I'm telling you that's when I got that's what I said. Okay. Now I can't wait for end game. I really can't wait for and game because she is a she's a game changer in from what little I know and again, please Marvel fans correct me but Captain Marvel is to be the most powerful being Within the Marvel universe is supposed to be I mean, she's got Tesseract power. I know now that I've learned that from the movie but she's supposed to be like like she's the one that can form an apology Heroes for sure because if you think about Like Scarlett Scarlett Scarlett, yes, I'm Elizabeth Olsen's character. Could you could arguably say she was the most powerful but she, you know dissipated along with half of the the heroes. So right now, Now sculpting done in the the the timeline Captain Marvel is the most powerful. Yeah. I think she's the most powerful because she can literally hold Infinity Stones without like nothing. So it's going to be interesting. I can't wait now for the outcome and and game in in part because Captain Marvel's in it. So let's talk a little bit about gross. Well what this movie has done. We already talked its opening. Hundred and a hundred and fifty three point four million dollars 50 good pretty good for a three-day weekend right now catch this so domestically up to this point domestically a hundred and eighty seven million dollars a hundred and eighty seven point six. So let's just say a hundred eighty eight foreign gross 362 million dollars. Wow, foreign ghosts. Now. I had read an article just before we came in today that today. Domestically Captain Marvel's should be should be up to 200 million dollars. Wow, and it will have another fantastic week. There's not a whole hell of a lot of competition. But when you look at the foreign the foreign gross on this accounted for almost seventy percent of the entire Global gross. So that's huge and what that means for free license markets, it's crazy. It's crazy your it is it's 70 65.9% Let's 70 where domestic gross 31 34.1% so it to me is it's fantastic. I think they did a really good job marketing this I love the poster. I love like what we have behind us Brie Larson to me. I had an opportunity to meet a briefly as well. She is very an exuberant and she's trolls aside. I agree with you a hundred percent. I think they mishandled. Old I think the publicity machine kind of broke down. They mishandled what she said, you know, and that caused that caused a lot of some discomfort that could have seen. Yeah, I think the the publicity machine sort of kind of broke down a little bit but I think they've righted the ship. I don't find any real reason for there to be trolls on this movie. I know from a Rotten Tomatoes perspective last I checked it was Is Let's Take a Look 79% which to me? I don't know. I would expect it to have been in the mid 80s. It's Cinema scores in a audiences really liking this. It's cinemascore is not is not a Rotten Tomatoes or an IMDb or Yahoo were people can rig. This court rolls. Can't manipulate cinemascore. Like they can other Outlet. So I will believe in a from cinemascore. I think this panel really enjoyed it. I think the people who are watching us really enjoyed it as well. So why don't we just I just think I think oh, we didn't talk we talked about the source music we didn't talk about the score the score for Captain Marvel which ended up downloading last week, which I folks I really highly recommend it because it includes the source music so it includes all Great music of the 90s that was in the movie. It includes this really great score to yeah, you should I highly recommend how many great 90 songs though. I do like that one. That one was so like fitting I felt like yeah, I mean everything was used really. Well I felt but I really as far as a Marvel is always been accused from a score perspective as being Nothing stands out. Like how do you like? It's not like a John Williams score that he does sweets. And that once you hear the score you got Indiana Jones. Yeah. Fuck. Yeah, so I will say regarding this score that I thought that it was really done. Well when you when you mix it in with the 90s music it really it's great. But it's the score is very heroic. Forgive me. I'm trying to find I want to I want to give credit to the person who did the score. Oh, I know what it is. So it was actually a first that's right. It's the first female to compose the music for a superhero music Don't movie and that is worth. Thank you for finding it because I wanted to give her I wanted to give this peanut to proc. The credit because I thought you did a really good job, especially the whole montage of the whole stand up getting out thing. I was like, yes get it Goose. I would stand up to it worked. It worked her squirrel. It's a great. It's a great. It's a great message like all pair to get listen to the score on its own and you'll recall that scene and you go up. She did really good and I seen some behind the scenes of her like conducting. She was so proud to be part of this and to be in to have been invited in and I think International women's day when you have a peanut rope Rock Brie Larson and you have a woman directing and writing. I mean as much look you can argue whether you like Wonder Woman or Captain Marvel better. I put them on equal footing for me for me. That's just for me you can like a move. He better than the other that's fine. But I think what they do for women, I think within the industry outside of the inspiration they give for kids I think is fantastic, but I think it really works. So anyway, so one final thoughts Marissa, I think this film did a great job in opening up doors for more stronger female movie leads rather it be comic book movies rather just be in movies in general and like we're seeing the shift with Hollywood where there Are better more stronger female lead protagonist films and this is one of them so it's not new. It's just needed. Yeah, we need more movies like this. I enjoyed it. I'm going to see it again. I'll probably enjoy it even more. So yes, great job Captain Marvel. Yeah. I totally agree with that. I thought Captain Marvel was great. I think you know, it's so important that we have these strong female leads and it's not just fitting the mold of this over. early sex stop, you know sidekick or just like a very voluptuous woman because I think often times even when it comes to like the shape or the body or like the mannerisms people have a certain idea of what it means to be a woman but this movie Just explains what it means to be a woman so well that you can fall down and get back up and you can be strong and you can be fierce and he like femininity is shown in so many different ways like you can be a smartass and You can be beautiful in so many different ways and you're worth isn't tied to how you look it's just kind of your character sure. And I love that. It's the fact that you're a good friend that you are loyal that you are kind that you are a force to be reckoned with that. You know, she doesn't just go and kill Jude Law's character. She still has like the empathy and emotional connection to send him back without killing him like she has a certain degree of loyalty even to someone who she is no longer on their their drugs. So this movie does so many things so well, including not just like the setting of The 90s and like that nostalgic aspects. Also the humor the writing the acting was stronger than most Marvel movies I've seen and yeah everything it did everything very well. I like yeah, I really enjoyed this. It would go into my top. Probably my top 5 for Marvel movies, you know and there the more Movies let's face it 21 films right? There is a small handful. I think that you can point to that really aren't that good, but the other movies I would say are like really good but there are degrees of good like, you know, this one's better than this one this one that okay, that's fine. But there really isn't a stinker Roux. There isn't one of these Marvel movies that I would like give it, you know the where I would give it the finger like, you know, I'm saying so they've done a really good job. Considering 21 movies. Not too bad. I think Captain Marvel is just another one where you could good entertainment to your point. Yeah, it's great female character, but I think the men were really well. And again, they were given opportunity good opportunity. They showed up the characters everybody had something to do and that's there was nothing through. And Away there is really no fat on this movie. I wouldn't mind seeing some deleted scenes but this movie was in two and a half. I don't think it was two and a half hours to minutes. Yeah, that's it. That's not bad. You know, I got a lot of hate it when they make it like 10 hours as long as well the next Avengers movies being roomy to around 3 hours. So yeah. Anyways, well folks we're going to wrap up our Captain Marvel. I I think you'd agree. We all felt it was Marvel loss Marvel Marvel Marvel. We believe you two again. Please feel free to comment. We will you know will be talking. I'm sure Avengers and game and then all these other movies because we were going over the the summer movies between Avengers to a story for Maleficent we got Dumbo Aladdin, yeah. Yes. I am excited really really unfair for everybody else to be honest, but game in a month. Yeah and game in a month. So you can't wait looking forward to it. We're looking for it to you for tuning in and thank you very much for listening and giving us your time. And again take more time to give some comments. If there was anything you want to nitpick about. Please let us know. Just please be kind. 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Hosts Marisa Serafini (@SerafiniTV), Mina Wahab (@MinaMakesMagic) & Demetri Panos (@DMovies1701) discuss Captain Marvel (2019) Review! Captain Marvel is an extraterrestrial Kree warrior who finds herself caught in the middle of an intergalactic battle between her people and the Skrulls. Living on Earth in 1995, she keeps having recurring memories of another life as U.S. Air Force pilot Carol Danvers. With help from Nick Fury, Captain Marvel tries to uncover the secrets of her past while harnessing her special superpowers to end the war with the evil Skrulls. To download the rundown used during the Captain Marvel (2019) anatomy, click here: http://audio.afterbuzztv.com/media/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/MTN/CAPTMARVEL.pdf  HELPFUL LINKS: Website - http://popcorntalk.com Follow us on Twitter - https://twitter.com/thepopcorntalk Merch - http://shop.spreadshirt.com/PopcornTalk/ ABOUT POPCORN TALK: Popcorn Talk Network is the online broadcast network with programming dedicated exclusively to movie discussion, news, interviews and commentary. Popcorn Talk Network is comprised of the leading members and personalities of the film press and community including E!’s Maria Menounos, Scott “Movie” Mantz, The Wrap’s Jeff Sneider, Screen Junkies and the Schmoes Know, Kristian Harloff and Mark Ellis who are the 1st and only YouTube reviewers to be certified by Rotten Tomatoes and accredited by the MPAA. Current Roster or Shows: -Disney Movie News -The Unproduced Table Read -I Could Never Be -On The Fly Filmmaking -Horror Movie News -Anatomy of a Movie -Box Office Breakdown -Meet the Movie Press -Guilty Movie Pleasures -Marvel Movie News -DC Movie News -Action Movie Anatomy -Watchalong Series! 