Hey everybody, this is BJ. We just wanted to talk to you for one second. Before we go into your favorite new podcast Dragon Quest FM about our host anchor dot f m-- we've been using anchor since we started doing Dragon Quest FM and we have really really enjoyed the service. That's right. It's the easiest way to make a podcast. It's free. There's creation tools that allow you to record and edit your podcast right from your phone or computer. Anchor will distribute the podcast for you. You can be heard on Spotify Apple podcasts and many others and thisAdd as part of their sponsorship program where you can make money from your podcast with even minimum listenership. It's everything you need to make a podcast in one place. So if you want to do this, you can go to Anchor dot f m-- and get started. Welcome everyone to Dragon Quest FM. My name is Austin. I'm BJ and this week we're talking about Dragon Quest swords the Mast queen and the Tower of mirrors, which was released back. We in 2007. We spent a weekend. We'll really a 24-hour period play in this game. But before we get into all of that We recording this episode on Wednesday. It goes out on Friday recording on Wednesday. And so this morning we finally got the demo for Dragon Quest 11s. Yeah. I've already got it downloaded on the switch beside me. I haven't been able to boot it up yet. Yeah same here. I downloaded it this morning and my oldest daughter Naomi was like are we gonna play him she so and it wasn't a good time to play video games. So I was just like, you know, I've gotta trying to explain downloading to her and out think she got it. She's three. So yeah being is kind of like it and very abstract concept. It's hard to convince people. It's hard to actually get people to understand downloading who have been around it for a while. They get the term wrong between downloading and uploading and like copying from flash drive. So a three-year-old no not even gonna try but some of the we got some cool stuff. They showed a video this morning and that actually, you know told you about this morning because I got super excited. I just happen to be on Twitter at the right. And I know one thing that you and I've been really excited for was the youichi village stuff. Yeah, and I haven't been able to watch the video yet. So you're actually telling me about it. I've gotten five minutes into it and then work hit and I haven't been able to go back to keep it rolling got ya. So, I guess your Chi Village for the Western version It's called taking tonight. Okay, you'll notice some clock puns here, but there's taking tin is the name of the village and the instead of being yo cheese like they are. Why they're called tacos. Okay, tacos not tacos. Yes. I thought they were tacos. It sounded like in the video that they were saying tacos, which is hilarious in one way is it's really funny that that would be a pun to begin with but also I know how much you hate people making Taco puns. I learned that this weekend. I didn't know that until like you and I have known each other for 10 years and I had no idea that you hated taco. Until this past weekend, it's not even Taco puns. I just I just don't like the adventures of I still think naming a character Taco Bell is funny. But anyway, it's not tacos it's tacos, and I thought it was tacos because it sounded like that but it also you know, it's Dragon Quest so I thought they were making like a taco pun, right? You know, but but someone someone on Twitter was like actually they're called tacos and then later on this morning. I saw an article from like a Nintendo website and they said tacos. So I guess it is tacos instead of tacos is what they're called. A lot of the other stuff in the demo is just like gameplay stuff which you know, we've seen a bit of but we did actually they showed you in taking 10 where you can go through to the other two like the to the other worlds from previous Dragon Quest games, right and that was pretty cool. They showed us nine today, which is really awesome for me because I adore Or Dragon Quest 9. Yeah, you you go through the portal and you're like up there at the observatory by the extra sultry awesome. Yeah, so saw that was pretty cool. So that's just some kind of highlights and hopefully next week when we record. I'm sure you and I will both be through the demo pretty maybe even done with it. I'm not sure. I haven't read anything about where the demo ends. I have neither I've seen I want to say that I saw Alec Burton mention that it didn't matter where it ended that every single thing that he could do in the demo was going to be done. Like he was going to Max it out before 11s came out and I'm like, I have a feeling that you and I may do the exact same thing like whatever the limits are. We're going to hit the hard cap that demo. Yeah. I I kind of think I've nothing to base this on but I kind of just assumed that the demo And you know at the beginning of the game are it and the luminary jump off a cliff and then it's like Dragon Quest 11. Yep. That's where I feel like that's probably a good place for a demo to end because you get a couple of zones you get kind of a tutorial dungeon you get a Zone where you can level up and fight stuff and you get the kingdom Haley adore you do so it's kind of like you kind of get quite a bit right there. And then it was kind of makes sense that it would end right there for the I'm title gets displayed. I'm hoping that's the case. I'm really hoping like I was thinking it would either be there or at when he leaves the main village when he leaves that first Village and you no longer have the dog in your party which still makes me upset that you get to that's where I thought it might lead. Also leave just when you start the adventure but I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. I think that might be too short because that's all we like a 20-minute demo. So it's Oh, wow, that's that's a shorter than I remember it being maybe I just took my time going through it. Oh, yeah, it's really quit even exploring out breaking the parts. I mean you might spend an hour there, but okay you crazy. So anyway, so let's get straight in to Dragon Quest swords, and I will say that I want to thank our patreon Patron DJ Pimp Daddy for he subscribed to to the Dragon Quest FM patreon and his request for show. Obscure Dragon Quest titles like Rocket Slime and obviously Dragon Quest swords is one of the more obscure ones. So when we had the opportunity to really play it together Austin is also beat Rocket Slime. That's an episode coming up. I'm playing through Rocket Slime right now and with DQ swords here. We are going to cover some of the more obscure ones at a patron request. So if you have any ideas about that, you can go to patreon.com slash Dragon Quest FM and you'll be able to tell us what to talk about. Out. Yeah, so so just a quick summary here BJ flew down to Florida. He was at a podcast convention which we kind of talked about last week. He got to my house. We recorded last week's episode and then the next day after my kids went down to nap. We decided to play Dragon Quest swords. I got my we out. He brought his game down with him. We plugged it in got all that stuff set up. Started playing it now just initially you hated the controls. I hated the controls, but for a 12 year old game. We thought it looked really pretty like the graphics. I think hold up pretty well. It was surprising how they held up compared to Modern Dragon Quest type games is a type games because it's not just Dragon Quest, but even on an HDTV the we graphics on this. This one didn't look terribly muddy or blurry that it was very I don't want say crisp either but it was not an ugly game by any means like a lot of that generation is when you look at them on an HDTV and then we got I want to say through the first chapter which is like kind of the tutorial dungeon boss all that kind of stuff. And then I guess you looked it up on like how long to be.com. Yep, and we realized that it Only about a nine-hour story most people were saying which said I did not have any idea. I would not expect a Dragon Quest game to be nine hours. I was expecting this to be like minimum 15 probably 15 to 20 our game and it wasn't it was everything was saying like completionist was 10 and a half to 15. So I was like, okay. Yeah, and so we decided perhaps foolishly that we would try to beat all of Dragon Quest swords before you had to leave to go to the airport. Airport the next day which gave us I did the math and from the time we started to the time you had to leave. It gave us about 26 hours. Yep to try to do all of this and so really well, we've been playing it for a little while. So it's really probably closer to 25 hours by the time we decided hey we're going to try to do it. So so for today's episode, we're just going to walk everybody through our journey to beat Dragon Quest swords in a single weekend. It's a dramatic story. It's full of struggle. It's full of love frustration and failure. Success and and Redemption possibly Redemption and injury, we energy it injury injury. So before we get into just our storytelling at all that just some thoughts overall thoughts from the game. I thought the story was kind of myth. I don't know about you. I thought the story was kind of vague most of the time it felt like a pretty just kind of generic thing. And I think maybe it's because the so much of the focus on Dragon Quest swords is about the gameplay. It's the fact that you can swing the Wii remote like a sword and play the game like that. So I think that's what the focus was on. So maybe maybe it doesn't even need a good story because that's not what the game is really about. Did you feel that way? Yeah, I did. I felt like this one was it's a Dungeon Crawler like you and I talked about like there's no exploration in this when you have a central Hub town. And you're going out into these different areas that are on Rails Dungeon Crawlers, and then you get to choose which direction you go at different Forks in the path. So when you're going in there, there's it's basically a hey this bad thing happened you're going to this area to get to the next step to fix it. And so it it's one of those where the story is there and it exists and there's a world and characters that they've built to move you along through the These dungeons but it's not a very good one. I didn't care about any single character. I didn't care about really what was going on. I like the character models for the most part for the most part, but generally it was like you said the story isn't the focus the focus on this one is from 2007 running around and controlling it like it's a sword I think for me the controls that I hated the most was and the reason that I The controls the most was that you couldn't use the Wii nunchuk that you had to use the directional pad the actual cross pad on a single Wii remote to move around instead of being able to hold it with two hands and move around just to keep that that sense of fidelity there with it and I didn't I didn't like that but I got used to it if it hadn't been for you. I never would have played that much of it to get used to because I like not for me and then turned it off. And together though. It was one of those that it was fun to power through and the controls were a hurdle and not a wall. Got un and I assume now that we've played it because at first I was the same way. I was like man, I wish you had the nunchuck for this but I think it's because you know, I'd be really hard to swing the Wii remote like a sword the way it you need to especially doing the master Strokes the special moves and stuff which you can see videos of on Twitter of us Little Fool of us doing Master Strokes on there. We live tweeted essentially most of our journey across this. So if you check out our Twitter feed you'll be able to find That in the media and stuff like that will eventually put it together in a moment to share this with all the stuff. But but yeah you the master Strokes require a lot of movement and dynamic movement at that, so it'd be hard with the nunchuck plugged in there. And also, I just think it's funny because that video so what happened was my wife Grace was sitting on the couch. We thought just playing on her phone and kind of sort of watching us play our game. It turns out she was recording Us in secret and texting BJ's wife Jennifer. Videos of us looking really stupid swinging the Wii remote around like a sword so our wives were just making fun of us in secret if we were teenagers at 12 years old. That's the kind of video that remember Star Wars kid. I don't remember if you remember Star Wars kid. Yeah, like these are Star Wars kid videos like if this had been at that point we would be like internet celebrities because I how silly we are on this like right now it's like oh, yeah, look at these middle-aged guy. Is swinging their swords on the Internet. It's a we're just another one but they but they were making fun of us really good. So another thing I kind of like you said about the characters the characters were kind of just there for me. I thought floor at made a pretty good companion because she gets good he'll stuff so she can really Aid the hero and you only get one companion. If you haven't played this game you get several companions to choose from but you can only take one at a time into the dungeons with you. Yep. And florets kind of like the Healer she can also make your Shield really big. Would you have to manually move across the screen and the reason that it makes it big would like Magnus Shield is what it's called is you have to point the Wii remote at the TV screen and the cursor becomes your Shield where you block projectiles and physical attacks is they're coming in. So the bigger the shield more area you have to actually block the attacks. It's not just pressing a block button or a Dodge button to do that. So that kind of Thing really really really helps. Yeah, and when we were playing I know I made this joke already but it needs to be said florette for those of you who have not seen her looks like Avril Lavigne like I'm pretty sure it's 2007 and I'm positive like almost a hundred percent positive Akira Toriyama salt like a music video of 2007 era Avril Lavigne and was like, I'm going to make her a support character in a video game and he did I mean sounds about right the skirt the stockings the whole look everything is totally just Avril Lavigne from that era. It's very hot topic. It's like it's like what every Hot Topic ad looks like we're back then it's like I just graduated college and it's like that's exactly what people dressed like at that particular time. Well, not everybody obviously, but that that that era of of like trendiness I was right there. It was crazy. But yeah, that's exactly what she looks like another character you get his prints on lace who's kind of like a whiny little prince. He says Mama really dumb mama mama mama, and so not much to say about print on this really neither you nor I really played as him very much because he didn't like him. He Zapped things really good. Like he would kill eight. He had an AOE, which you don't get as as the main. Character so that was really helpful occasionally, but he couldn't heal. So that was a hard pass. I thought he had healed. I thought he had scissors and he'll did he have a heel because I don't remember maybe he had a heel maybe he was his and Claymores that claim or was that yeah. Okay on Lisa's AOE was says Claymore heads app and buff were the two spells. He started off with and claim or is your dad in the game? Who look he looks like balthier from Final Fantasy 12. But with a with an Anakin Skywalker mechanical arm. Yep. Got a sword hand cut off. Yeah, he doesn't look like a DQ character to me like Claymore looks cool. But like his face and everything else. He doesn't look like a Dragon Quest character. He doesn't look like a Toriyama character to me at all. He looks like one to me because of a discussion that we're having on Discord like right now on the geek geek Discord where somebody posted a picture of the the fortune-teller from dq8 and heal. Looks like a emaciated. Mr. Satan from Dragon Ball Z and that's kind of how Claymore looks to me. Is that kind of DQ character? Like not one of the hero types that you see all the time, but one of those like really Side characters that looks unique that's not one of the repeated NPCs and that's kind of really what what Claymore looks like to me after seeing that picture of the fortune teller and thinking about mr. Satan. That's where claim or Falls in in. And with the art style for me, okay, gotcha another character. I just want to mention really quick that you and I both enjoyed was mini moggy. Mmm, and I liked having that I liked having the little monster collected many medals and said of just having like a king or a queen or a princess or something like in most of the games. I like the pirate captain from nine, but many moggy was kind of was a cute little juror to have to bring your mini middles to you and the best part about him being a monster. It's like the rest of these are kings and queens and they have a collection or a princess or you know, a pirate Captain who obviously wants his booty and then you have this monster this this mini moggy Cat who's just like I'm gonna eat all your medals and then he just eats them. It's like you bring him Metals for rewards and he's just eating these many metals and I love it. Like watching him go have made me very very happy like because it's And that's like you and I've said it doesn't times that's what we like about Dragon Quest and even in the side games like this may be especially in the side games like this. They experiment more with the silliness and that's just one of the things in this one that's super silly. Just let and really side silly but it works out really really well to give it personality. So Saturday, we got the game all set up. We started playing it, you know start with chapter 1 obviously it took me. Me a while to get used to the controls and moving around just because it's so different. It's first person. I don't know if we said that already or not, but it's first person which is really jarring for a Dragon Quest game for me first. It took a long time to get used to that but I eventually did get used to it because that's that's kind of the Dungeon Crawler thing, but it's absolutely hard to get used to its really jarring and at the beginning you and I didn't really know that this was a Dungeon Crawler game. Like no, we're at least I didn't I mean we were just kind of playing it. We're like this is weird. And then after we got to the first area you're walking out in a field and then you go to like a cave. I can't even remember what it's called, but it's called like the way of Worth or something like that because you're proving your Worth right and like the worthwhile walk of worth. Is that what it's called? It's called something absurd like that. It's absurd. Yeah. I don't really pay attention to a lot of the areas in this one partly. Because we were kind of trying to speed run through it and not really worry about it. But also because I didn't care about the story. So it was just like oh, yeah, we have to go through the the force. I know I called the forest and everything wrong the wrong name. Like I'm I think I still think of it as Ganymede Forest. I know it's not that's not it it was galantine Glade because you made a galentine's Day joke from Parks and Rec. You're absolutely right. It's galentine's day Glade and you're like no like I open my mouth and you told me no before I could even start. Which was I think chapter 2 is where you go to galantine Glade. Yeah, I think it is. But the first the first when you're like in a cave and you're like proving you're worth there's like the Restless armor at the end. His name is Dirk Worthington. And so and after beating Dirk Worthington and getting to the end that's kind of where you and I were like, oh, this is a Dungeon Crawler game because you there's like Forks in the path and we went the wrong way at first or maybe the right way at first and got the treasure at the end of the path and then like resets you back at the beginning of the fork and you have to go the other way, which is fantastic. I will say that for this game not making you go back along that trail that you started on like you went in on is wonderful. It's like, oh you finish this. It's a dead end. Let's put you back to where you make that choice. So you basically get to go through all of the pads. If you don't go down the main path initially and we were following a walk through this entire time. Let me That because we had limited time we found what might be the worst walk through that I've ever used on the internet on IGN's Wiki it hit the high points and then left out very important pieces of information that you needed and we followed that to know which path to go down and to get what treasure that we needed to be able to push forward but not yet. We did not start the walk through yet. That's where I work. We weren't worried about time at this point in our playthrough because yeah, that's true. We hadn't really fully. Get ourselves to this. Yeah that came later. I want to say it was like chapter five or six. I think I put it in the notes when we started using a walk through because we were like, holy crap. We're going to run out of time. We need to stop like just messing around and give the correct ways. Yeah, but but yeah there we did we did chapter 2, I want to say just right after that. That's when you start getting a party characters you get on lace who goes with you and it really doesn't do much like I was surprised at how Little the side characters really seem to do in this game, especially when it comes to like attacking the enemies like it felt like he uses like twice. I want to say in the whole like area that we were in the galantine Glade and never will we needed it. It was always like we got this handled and then it decided that's like I'm gonna blow these up for you. It's like thanks. How about that when I was about to die. My shield was broken, dude. Yeah, so then not long after that the end of chapter 2 is when you find on Lisa's mama, who is the Mast Queen in the title. It's kind of creepy at first you're like get this cabin in the woods and there's like a creepy like masks lady that just like leaves the cabin and there's like creepy music playing and then right after that floret comes out and you talk to her she joins you back in town that kind of stuff. I want to say around chapter 3 is when you and I first consulted a guide because we were just trying to figure out where to take are many metals. So right Googled it to see where the many medals were and even then it should have been a warning sign because it was like it's a cave by the castle and there's actually two caves and we went into the wrong cave at first that's that's true. We should have actually realized that I didn't even think about that. They're just like cave by the castle and we chose the wrong cave. There are three actually the mini metal. Dave there's the grave cave and then there's the one that leads to the dojo. That's true. Yeah, I forgot about the dojo one. There's also weapon Tamp tempering at the weapon Shop, but you and I kind of took advantage of we what was it the lightning sword is what we ended up getting because we have an underboss at the time and then chapter 3 is also where we started having difficulty because of the The Rock bombs because you and I are both really That's one of the so sometimes you can do you can do like a downward slash. You do like a cross slash or then you do like a diagonal, you know, kind of / or you can do a Thrust which you and I neither one. We could Master the thrust very well and I think I don't know if it's us I feel like it's the Wii remote just doesn't pick up on that movement the way it should I think it's the Wii remote because this is before the MotionPlus Wii remote came out that they were using with Skyward Sword that this didn't have the the more precise accelerometer and gyroscope in it. So this is using the regular we controls to try to get you to hold it solid hold it flat and then thrust it at the screen and so it didn't have really granular control over, you know, like this switch does now and like even like MotionPlus does so this is original stuff. So yeah thrusting It Forward like like jabbing and stabbing piercing. We were both just downright bad at it and You had any way so we eventually quit trying to thrust The Rock bombs backwards to blow up the rest of the rocket bombs and enemies. Yeah and just started hacking away at it. And then after that, I feel like after we went to that strategy we got through those Rock bumps pretty quickly and made it to the end of that area ya think. So I don't remember any more trouble with that one. Yeah, but that I think that was probably the first death for us was when I was because mostly on the first day. I was mostly the one playing and With and we were on chapter 3 still in that first day and I think that was the first time we'd actually died was because there was that area where the chimeras are throwing fire at you and you're trying to return the fire. Oh, yeah The Rock bombs are all rolling down the hill and there's like some bubble slimes. I want to say that attack you as well and you tend to have to focus on Bubble slimes and do downward slashes because they jump over your other side slashes. And so you also have to Target the screen. Like you do with the with the shield and you target the screen at where the projectiles are going. It tells you where they're going and then you have to bat it back at some of the enemies like chimeras and that is not the easiest thing to do with these kind of questionable controls and most of our deaths in the game came from missing the missing the batting it back like we were if you had to stab or bad it back we were Just not great at it and part of that too is that the controls are wonky. But also they give you like three seconds. It's like right you have to they give you three seconds to move the remote to the exact spot, press the a button to lock onto that spot. And then you have to time your swing correctly to send it back and then especially later in the game. There's even like times where the enemies will hurl like a whole bunch of them at you in a row, and it's just I think you and I eventually just started blocking. Instead of trying to return them back. Yeah, it's just easier at that point because it makes the fights last considerably longer I guess but it also means you don't have to restart that entire area. If and when you mess up what you are doing, so so we got through chapter three around that time. My kids were starting to wake up from nap. So we put the, you know, put it away for a little while took a little break at this point my My arm wasn't sore yet. I didn't play at played for about two and a half hours. The my arm wasn't too bad. My arm really started cramping up later that night because after my kids went to bed you and I booted up the game again, and we had we started off with chapter 4, which teams you up with claim or your dad and you have to choose him because we were already at this point. We're like, oh, yeah, we're going to use floor at for future dungeons, but the game makes you try Out your dad for the chapter 4 and the part that sticks out most to me about ride about chapter four is riding in that boat. Yeah at the beginning and it just feels like it takes forever to just ride around in the boat. We also I just remembered we did not have our Thunder sword yet because I say at this point we weren't all that familiar with webbing weapon tempering and I totally sold the monster bones and my inventory which were the materials that you needed to temper the sword because you don't buy new weapons in this you have to craft them with materials that you get so we sold the ones that we needed to get a more powerful sword. Yeah, you can buy like the base swords, but then but if you really want to He really want a good weapon. You have to temper it. Yeah, he came by. I think the iron sword is the first one right copper. I think you buy copper and then you temper it into steel. Then you temper the steel into either ice fire or lightning and then during the course of the game you get not the Aurora sword, but the render X or something like that color like the red boots Sagar something. I think I have it typed up in her notes somewhere. But you get that and it transforms in tempers into like the the sword of Heroes in the Aurora blade and then but all of the lightning Fire and Ice ones can then get more powerful than those with even more tempering like you can get like Mega lightning or whatever. They're called. It's not Mega lightning. Yeah. So we had I think we had a steel sword at this point, which you can once you temper it. I don't know if it's because we tempered it or because you reached a certain part of the game, but you can buy steel sword later. In the game, it shows up in the weapon shop at least. Oh, yeah so that you can have the fire ice and lightning swords. Yes. I'm not sure if it's because we got to a certain story point or if it's because we had already tempered a steel sword the it like unlocked it or how that works. But either way we didn't have a lightning sword yet and there's a lot of water enemies when you're on the boat with Claymore and so I felt like it just took us a little bit longer to get through that because we didn't have the best weapons and we were a little short on cash and we Taking the time to necessarily grind levels yet because we're trying to like speed run the whole thing. And then overall I thought chapter 4 it was that it had a cave. It was pretty boring and right around in here. I think towards the end of this cave. We just wanted to get it over with so that's when I asked you I was like, hey, can you just look up a walkthrough and tell me the correct paths to take on these Forks because yeah, I'm so sick of this and there's like that's when the chest start being like Canada boxes. Has and things and the walkthrough that we saw like the candy boxes are super annoying y'all it's not even that they're hard. They're just annoying because as you're going through you get a choice of one or two chests, like there are two chest in front of you and you don't usually have to pick but you're going to want to pick and the the walk through that we're using on IGN here tells you that these are random that you just have to pick one and it might be a can of box or it might not it changes every time you load in. Is a lie, which we don't think is true because we tested this out many a time and we got the item in the same box every time and it that whoever wrote that walk through and I know it's a week and I could go back and change it but I'm probably not going to you'd rather just dumped on it. I would feel that that tells me more about the state of the internet than anything else. It's like I could fix it, but I'm not gonna answer. And you know now that I say that out loud maybe I will but they are fixed and it means that you don't have to fight those Cannon boxes, but thanks to the IGM walkthrough. We just skip them completely and we we don't know like unequivocally that they're fixed. But in our experience it was always the same one like once we picked like the one on the right would be a mini metal. So we when we would Replay that level we'd always go for the one on the right and it would still be a mini metal because you can repeat many. Those in this game and so and same thing for like medicinal herbs and things like that. So with our experience, yeah, it was a 100% fix when we tried it like that. So like we may be, you know, statistical outliers, but in our experience every single chest like that. Yeah, and so so for me, I think this is the part of the game where I started kind of getting tired, you know at this point, I think we probably reach the like three and a half hour mark But we wanted to get through as much as possible. So we kept on playing and week at to chapter 5, which is where you have to climb the Tower of mirrors which which is the title of the game. I mean, it's talk about the Tower of mirrors. So you're finally hitting the main part of the story This is the real meat of the game. And so where you get into like more than cave dungeons, you're not fighting merman in the river on a raft kind of thing. You're finally getting it. Until like the the dungeon e dungeons to the for the Dungeon Crawl and we died a lot we got so much. So I think we died three times. I think the first time I think I was still playing at this point. We got to the the Golem and it's a black Golem. The there are there are obviously different kind of golems in Dragon Quest games. And this one is a black Golem and he punches you he does punches, but it doesn't give you the the symbol on the screen to show you where he's going to punch. So you kind of just have to look for his arms and and like hope for the best and so and we weren't sure how to attack him because any time we tried to swipe at him because like one damage or whatever if that like when he blocked it would do one damage and then if he blocked it did none and so thankfully I had a masterstroke built up. So I used a master stroke and killed him and you and I were both like her a we got through it and In before you even get out of the fight another Golem appears with two bubbles lines who throw slime at you and poison you and that's where I died. I died the first time there the second time I handed off to you because at this point my arm is like dying and I'm frustrated sigh finally handed it off to you and I think at that point we googled it when you got back to the Golem to see where like how we were supposed to do it we figured out if You can manage to block like all of his attacks in a row. He's got five in a row that then you can do like slashes and beat him up really quickly, which is really weird because it's one of the first times in the game where they don't give you any indicator of where to block and this golem Attacks every single corner of the screen and then the middle but it's not in the same pattern every time so he might just he feels like he attacks them at random and we tried this with all of the other golems that you As well and it never felt like we got a pattern down. You just have to watch and see and really react very quickly in the game. That doesn't have very good reaction controls. So we finally got through this though. We managed to get through it and then we got to the boss like we managed to climb this Tower. We died a few times like like we said got through it, but it helped us level up. At least there was that we followed what the strategy guides were saying like in terms of the the paths to take Take that. We didn't really take any extraneous ones that with items that we didn't need or wouldn't use and we got to the boss and I think I handed it over to you at that point because you were at especially at that time. You were the one with most of the fighting experience. Yeah. I think it was you actually handed over before that because you're playing it and it came to one of those where you had to block a bunch and floret died. Oh, yeah, and I let yeah and you were like, oh my God. I looked for it die. I'm going to hand this off to you because I'm gonna die or something like that. So I and I managed to block the next one and beat it. And then right after that is when you get to the boss and the boss is what's his name. It's the German thing. You said it means big knife gross Massa. Yeah, and he talks really funny. I really like that even though he like that boss. He has one of the best puns though. I love it. His name is gross Masa and it means big knife in German and he comes out with a pitchfork is like You may be wondering why I have a big a big Falk when it showed to be a big knife and it's just because and I loved it. Like he talked like a cartoon character. It was ridiculous. And it was one of the best puns in the entire game. I loved it so much and I don't know German so I didn't get that joke and you had to explain it to me, which I think is really funny that they put that in this game because it's like how many people really get that joke, you know like but anyway, so we get to this guy there's a lot of blocking. In this fight there's a lot of like, what are they called? The mini demons that show up amps? Yeah that are attacking you. And so anyway, I died I died here. It was the second death in the tower of mirrors that we had. It was getting kind of late and you know, we had been all been awake for a very long time. So so we decided to call it a night. With with that death and then Play It Again the next day. So so since we got to our night time, we got to the pause and are playthrough I think now is probably the perfect time for the segment. We like to call Shameless self-promotion. Maybe beep beep beep Shameless. I like that one. Actually Yay. There's one you like. Yeah. That's a pretty good. Why don't you tell everybody about our patreon? So I'd mentioned Earlier in the show. We have a patreon that we're using. So if you'd like to become a member of our patreon, you can go to patreon.com slash Dragon Quest FM and you can pledge and become a patron where you can get a sticker. You can get a Discord role on our media networks Discord server and talk to Dragon Quest with us, and we're also looking at different tiers of rewards trying to really expand this for exclusive content that kind of Of thing. 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Iris in our living room floor right and try to be sneaky to start playing it because I wanted to try to get through the Tower of mirrors again woke you up you got on up and we started playing it before anybody in the house was awake before it. Really. I mean, it was like Sunrise. I mean it was very early the next day we started playing again. We went through the Tower of mirrors again. It was a lot easier because we knew what to expect that time and we'd also gained like five levels from the night before whom Trying to attempt to get to the top of the tower and levels aren't terribly important in this like levels don't matter a great deal, but they matter enough they you know, five levels isn't like it is in most Dragon Quest games where you become like gain new abilities and Things become significantly easier. It's just a little bit better. It's like a quality-of-life thing more than anything else. So so anyway, so we were able to take down what's his name again? Gross Meza Us Meza, yeah. Yeah big knife. I'm just calling that knife Giant and he's an archdemon. Like we didn't mention this before like he's an archdemon. So y'all know what Pitchfork he's talking about why he has a big Fort I mentioned he was an archdemon. You're just a brick wall. I am a brick wall. Yes. See this is what happens. So then we got to chapter 6, we jump straight into chapter 6, my arm was super dead already at played Ford it basically four and a half hours straight the day before of this. Game, so my arm was very tired. Like maybe I'm just a baby. I don't know after the fact I saw lots of reviews on Amazon people complaining about how it makes your arms sore. And it really does like I felt like a pitcher who had pitched like all nine innings of a baseball game. Like I I just I made jokes about having the like ice my arm and all that kind of stuff. But really, I mean, I was like popping Tylenol and stuff like that. I put an icy hot patch on my shoulder. I mean, I was really I was really hurting after playing this for Like four and a half hours. So so after beating gross Meza, I handed it off to you and you started playing through the next three chapters. So you started off playing chapter 6 and during this time all of my kids started waking up which kind of turned it into Dragon Quest swords hard mode did and it was it was it was fun because they they were really interested in it, especially especially Like she wanted to play and that was I felt bad because it usually you know, we hand the game to her. It's like yeah, you can play for a little bit do this. And this one we were both honed in and it's like no the big boys are going to play this and we didn't have time. It was like it was like by this time. I was like 8:00 a.m. 8:30 a.m. You were going to have to leave like in just like four hours four or five hours. And so we're really trying to rush through it and Naomi kept because she was wanting to play She also kept getting in the way. Way and she's three so she is just the height where her head would get in the way of the we censor. It stopped recognizing it like when we would swing or fight or anything. It just stopped in the middle of a fight and we would take like way extra damage and we're just like I know so we don't want to yell at a kid like it but it's like frustrating. It's like, oh no. Yeah, and there would be like really into it and then all of a sudden the sweet little face just appears and it's like, can I please A BJ and then you die exactly that's pretty much it and the twins were actually pulling at my pants like I'd put my phone in my pocket so they could recognize the shape of it in the exercise pants. I was wearing so they would come up and grab it and just start like trying to pants me while I'm swinging at some sort of slime and it's like, oh no this is gonna be terrible and Grace is over there taking videos and it's like oh this is not going on the internet. Yeah, and they're almost too so they're like just at the height where they can reach in and like grab like get into your pockets and I think at this point because Grace had worked like the like late the night before than early the next morning. So on Sunday, I was letting her sleep in I don't even know if she was awake yet and downstairs because I was trying to let her sleep in Oh, no, you're right. She wasn't awake at this point because like she slept way through the kids that day. Yeah. So so you were playing this. I was trying to play with the kids. But also like watch the game and it was just a chaotic mess at one point. I remember getting on my hands and knees and crawling in front of the TV, but it messed you up because I had to get the sippy cup from from out from under the TV to give to one of the girls because they like it rolled under the the TV stand or whatever and so but finally even With all the kids go and kind of crazy and all the craziness you made it through chapter 6 without too many problems and you got to the boss Drag was his name the giant Stone Statue Guy and you made it look easy the fact look easy for the most part except at the end. He starts hurling those like blue like balls of energy at you that you're having to return back and we almost died there. Yeah. Yeah. It was really close to the End where I was just missing them. I don't know if it was being distracted from the kids if I was just straight up bad at doing that but it almost meant that we had to go through the Tower of mirrors again, or at least what it was this or maybe this was the one where you like the portal that pushes you through. It was yeah, it's called the mirror world. Yeah, you were it's where you just float through it, which is a really nice place to level up and we'll get to that in a sec to where we spent a lot of time in the mirror world because it just Self it's self-propelling. So it just moves you forward the whole time and you basically just swipe across the screen. There's lots of metal slimes and liquid metal signs that show up in that area. So if you need if you play this and you need to level up wait until chapter 7 because there are set metal slimes in here that they show up at the same place every time and the way that metal signs usually work in this one is that they run very quickly across the screen where you just have to kind of catch them and this one Since you're being self propelled you can pretty much just swing and kill everything the hardest one to get is the liquid metal slime because of the way that it flies at you. I missed it a few times and so which we and we didn't go back there yet to start trying to grind up levels because we're trying to just see how far we could get with just you know running through it. So I think we ended up setting it down low because of the girls being awake and And for just a little while. No, this is what happened. We went to we played through chapter 7 because you get a new sword after chapter six after you beat drought you get the redness odder whatever. Yeah, I don't know how you say it. Looks like a real jerk sword. And then you get a you go to the dojo and you learn a new master stroke and then you have to go back through galantine Glade and then you unlock the Red Sea and so we died a few times. Times there because of there's the the hack of Soros that there's a hack of Soros that spawns with cure slimes and they just killed us I think like twice there and it's pretty late. It's pretty it's like almost at the very end of the Red Sea. And so finally we decided we would go back and to the mirror world to try grinding up some levels so you and I took turns so we didn't get too tired or too sore. We alternated trips through here to kill metalslime space. Basically, it would take about three to five minutes each. And so the other one we go get a drink, you know stretch like we're on Deck playing baseball. It's like oh yeah next time. It's like I'm gonna knock this out Park. We always left the level though right before the boss fight so that we didn't have to repeat the bosses. So you could return to town without penalty. So we'd go and save it and it was also a good way to save up money so that we could temper our sword and get a get the Aurora blade that BJ mention. Yeah, we were getting about 1,200 gold a time. And so I think we started with about 2,000 gold maybe 1500 ish. So we did this about nine or ten times to get through there and Save The gold because we needed 10,000. Yeah, and we went up probably about 10 levels. I know you stayed down and grind it up some levels because at this time I got to be nap time again. And so I was helping my wife put the girls all down at nap we pause for a minute so you could say goodbye to the girls because you were going to have to leave before they all woke up. Yeah, and so we set it down for a minute, but we did go up about ten levels and we got about 10,000 or so gold from grinding up everything and then so we tempered airblade we were able to afford some really good armor that that brought our fire damage 30 down to 30% and it added I think 30 physical defense as well. So like we're in like 40 something like 72, I think. Yeah. I thought I thought was like 30 something to 70 something. But yeah, well, maybe it was maybe it was even bigger. Like I just remember moving that far up like it was a massive like 50% like Not even 50 a hundred percent increase their yeah, and so we went back to chapter 7 back to the Red Sea and we just kick but we took names it. We like flew through that level so fast after your like grinding your own we went from like level 27 to like thirty eight ish. Right? I know that we were 39 when we got to the last chapter and I can't remember if we gained that in the sea of mirrors or whatever. It's called or the Red Sea place. But either way floret she also learns like multi heal and full heal during this time, which was majorly helpful so nice. Yeah, and so so chapter 7, we like sped through it after doing the mirror world. If you've never played this game before and you get to this part, I mean I highly recommend it. I mean, we got up all these levels and all said and done with us taking turns. I still don't think it took us a whole hour to do all of that. I mean it was it was really quick like, you know five-minute thing. I think we did it probably like five or six times total. Mmm. So, I mean it was a pretty quick paint and painless process. Yeah, it didn't it didn't have it wasn't that hard to do at all. And then so we enjoyed that easiness because then they became the final area the chapter 8 final dungeon all that good stuff you're going into it's called the death bringer Citadel. Is that what it's called? That's what it's scientist is because they Called the death bringer and so at this point we're running out of time. So we were at level 39. We were using the walkthrough to skip unnecessary paths you were playing you had to be at the airport or you had to leave to go to the airport. I think around like within an hour, right? Yeah that was around noonish. Like I want to say that we started that when it right around noon, and I had to leave your house really no later than P.m. To be able to make a 525 flight because it was a two and a half hour drive. I needed to leave a little bit of wiggle room there. And because the I was flying on Silver Airways a smaller Airline and they board 30 minutes ahead of time because you have to go out onto the tarmac and things like that. So you have to get there enough early enough to do it. So I had to leave no later than like one o'clock to be able to, you know, Say by give y'all hugs that kind of thing. And you know get out of town. Yeah, and because and you're in the conference, so you're flying out from Orlando instead of the West Palm airport. Yeah, which is near my house. So so we're really rushed at this point. We haven't didn't notice you having any trouble until there's that nightmare fight with the gigantis. Yeah, the hit the head statue man. That one was just I couldn't do it. Like I just couldn't it was it was I knew what to do. I was trying to do it and it just did not happen. You have to reflect Stuff back and the only way you can do damage to and with this gigantic statue is by reflecting his projectiles back into his eye and it did not work for me like it worked but I couldn't do it and it doesn't cause much damage like when you were doing it. It was like I think you reflected back four or five and it was like he wasn't even at half Health yet and it was just like and we were and you and I are both so bad at it. It's like we're missing a lot. But thankfully you had a masterstroke built up. Thank goodness, and I didn't want to use it yet because I knew that I was going to be going in and fighting the boss soon. Like the actual boss says I foes and I didn't want to use it. But I had to there was no way that I couldn't use it on this and so you used it killed it got through that part and we're like Yay then this is where we both got really mad with this guide is the guys. It's like after the fight there's a giganteus and then there's a couple more enemies and you make it Zappos has throne room. So we're like, okay nothing too bad. Well the giganteus shows up and which isn't a fun fight either really? No. No, it's not fun at all. I hated it. Did I give it to you during this point? No, you got through it and then we were like yay and we were like, well that's over and now we just have to kill a few side enemies and we get to the boss because that's what the guide says. Yep instead. There's like another giganteus that comes at you with. With other enemies as well, there's and then there's another giganteus with some enemies and then there's another fight there's like like I don't know what that person's definition of a couple fights is but there's definitely more than one giganteus as definitely more than a couple fights you and I were both like, oh my gosh, is this never going to end like we're not even going to get to zyphus before you have to leave by answer to is it ever going to end is? No, it just keeps going. But we eventually did make it to Zappos his throne room and you got through his first form pretty quickly because this first form is not too bad and zyphus sifo. This is just down Magus from Dragon Quest 8. It's down Vegas, but with like horns, like that's exactly what he looks like. He is a really cool boss. Like he looks really really neat. He's like dual Magus with with horns as he's really cool wings and he's like, I'm Eve. Oh man like he's a cool boss. Boss, I don't care if he's like Mega evil or not because I don't care about the story because like that's a cool model. I gotta fight that that's great. Yeah, and so so then we got to the second form and so consulted our little walk through even though you and I neither one really trusted it at this point. No, but we had no choice it was it was like Stockholm syndrome. It's like we know we hate it, but it's like it's all we got right now. And so that that's a good it's a good analogy. IGN gave us Stockholm, but we got there and it was a it's a pretty tough fight floret died, which was a major problem. She had died on one of the gigantic fights. Yeah, so we were doing all of this alone and we didn't have many healing items left anymore. So it's kind of like a tough thing, but amazingly we got really close. Those we got we pushed him into so he's in a second form and there's a couple of different phases he goes through and we got him almost to his Final Phase. It's when he uses the master stroke a second time and we thought and he loses them like, yeah, he make sure that we clarify here it he is not me like he is the boss. He gets nice super moves as well. Yeah, and so's I foes had used it once before you have to attack the screen really really fast, which is I'm pretty sure the video of you on Twitter. I think that's what you were doing think so and I think that I think that's what you're doing to it. You might be doing the view in the figure a figure eight. Yeah, but I think I'm attacking to to lower the damage. And so it causes if you about you can usually get if you try really hard you can get to about 50 to 60 right on that bar. Which means he only causes around. Jared 250 damage to your character so we did but the game gives you almost no warning that he's about to do the master stroke. So you you were at like 2:30 ish something like that. I was in 119 Health 219 Health you remember it? Oh, yes, I do. Yeah, and you were like, I think I'm going to use an herb, but you only had one left was a nigger Soul. Do I could have full healed and I was waiting to take one more hit to go down into the 100's and Not waste the only healing item that I still had. Yeah, and so I said something along the lines of no dude. Just wait wait till you're a little lower don't waste it yet. Only one we got and then of course as soon as I say that zyphus uses his master stroke and kills us and he kills us with what did you say as for HP for damn? Uh, he did ya 123 damage and he killed us by for damage and we didn't have an ignorance. He'll Leaf because I chose the wrong box on the way and I thought a can of box and the other one disappeared and so at this point you and I literally fought on our hands and knees and the girls are asleep upstairs. So we can't be loud. There's this mattress in front of us and then simultaneously we just collapse onto our knees like and just I just remember sighing heavily. I'm sighing like I don't know. I've just a sigh heavily and I remember Grace who's sitting on the couch is just I rolling and and shaking her head at us because we're being so stirred. We are we are being very dramatic that I live for hit points. And so then at that point though, we had no more time to really to really play again. This was they think 1253 1253 looking at my watch. I'm like I can do this again. So thankfully it lets you if you die. You can just go back to Zappos has throne room. So you don't have to repeat the whole like dungeon again, which is super nice. It's like the best thing this game does. Yeah and So but that day at least we ended the day I guess in defeat you and I were taking both took some tile at all. We're laughing about how sore arms were and then you left you got to the airport with three minutes to spare as I got three minutes until it was reported. Yes. So like looked at the clock at 12 at 12:53. I'm like I can do this again. And then we made the the adult decision here of know, you should probably get Get your things together and leave so that you don't miss your plane. So I go and I leave and it turns out that that's a very good thing because there was a couple of accidents on the Florida Turnpike going north. And so I was stuck in traffic for about half an hour overall and I hadn't eaten lunch. So I had to stop and get gas and so I had to get like a doughnut and and like some eggs from Duncan and some caffeine and after I found out that my wife and her And had left the donuts that they had bought me on the counter and aunts ate them instead of me. So I was like, I'm gonna get a doughnut regardless and so I did that and like I make it through there like I had to stretch anyway after sitting through all that and get gas. Like I said, so I go make it to the airport and it's Orlando Florida so and on a Sunday afternoon and it it is I have to check a bag and go through security. So I'm going here and it's like everyone leaving Disney at the same time as well. So they're all flying. Hang out there's a 17 to 21 minute. Wait is what it says at security. I have to find the small airline that I'm at to to check this bag, which is all the way at the other end of where I come in at from dropping off the rental car and I make it through everything find my gate three minutes before they start boarding and so I just get there I text you and I'm like man 3 minutes good good grief. It was like I made the I was so stressed out. Like I was so stressed out like I'd been I was stressed out and seeing in the Quarry make I got stopped and security. I didn't tell you because of sweat on my back from sitting in a hot car that that I had like the back of your the back of your shirt gets damp when you're just sitting in a car for a long time and they stopped me and security because the microwave thing Milla millimeter wave or whatever they call it's not microwave noticed that so I had to get patted down to so long story short. You almost missed your flight. You got patted down an airline security because we're playing a video game. So yes. Yes that is that is that is what happened? So I also saw I thought was funny because like you said earlier we were like basically live tweeting. All this stuff is Daniel Zilla on Twitter when we told him that we had gotten to like we're like for HP from beating it. He sent us a gift of from like Jim on You have the rock which is where he's like, don't cry. Don't cry. Don't cry which is like the perfect gift because that's really how it felt. It was just like, you know, but anyway, so so I kind of 24 hour playthrough of Dragon Quest swords ended on a bit of a sad note because you know, if we died we didn't get to beat it together. BJ had to go back home. And so So but the story does not end there. There is a brief little epilogue that we want to get into now. So BJ left he left the game at my house. And he was like, you have to beat it. Now. I was like, no, I don't want to my arm hurts. I don't know if I have it in me that boss fight was terrible blah blah blah. And so Sunday night all of Monday really my arm was sore didn't feel like it. So then Tuesday finally I was like, you know what I'm going to try to beat this game before we record the podcast this week because I would like to end the podcast on a happy note. So now we're level 41 by the way. I don't know if I told you that I don't think you did know. Yeah, so so we were level 41 Arie stalked all the the like medicinal items. You know got floret back in my party. We started Magic Water left over in case you ran out of MP. So all of that was good. We still were One Mini metal away from being able to buy an egg Drusilla beef. So I went in still without a Nedra silly. And waited for the kids to go down to nap on Tuesday. And I was like, you know what I'm going to try this out. So thankfully with the throne room puts you right back with the first form of zyphus, which is super helpful. And I was like, you know, if we made it that far on Sunday surely I can get through here. Well what I didn't expect was that apparently my arm was not fully healed and doing that figure-eight move. Like I seriously thought I was going to throw my arm out of its socket. Like it really really really hurts. Like I know people listening or probably like suck it up Austin stop being a baby but seriously it hurt and so I checked out the weapon tempering stuff before I went into that fight and we didn't have anything. I did learn that you can upgrade the Aurora blade to get the sword of Kings, which is cool. You can get this in if Ian sword or you can get the Drago vien sword from eight. Wait, so you can get like the ultimate swords from the different Dragon Quest games, but they're really expensive and I'm pretty sure I didn't recognize any some of the tempering items and I think it's probably post game items that you need to be able to actually get that stuff. I think so because they're super bosses in the world of mirrors or something like that where you have to have a certain amount of renown that you earn for beating the different levels with higher ranks and doing better. And so I saw went in there the first fight between having floret and my party also at some point. I didn't even know what she's learned a new move where I don't even I didn't even pay attention to what it was. It may be like puff puff or something. I don't know but it it causes little hearts to appear rounds. I phos and it causes about 36 damage nice. I didn't realize that it did damage to I knew that it kind of Charmed the the other enemies when we had multiples on screen. I didn't notice that it had To them as well. Yeah, I didn't notice it at all until that fight. And so that was really helpful the first form, you know, he got taken down really quickly didn't have to use any healing items floor at didn't have to use much impy. I mean, it was like very easy. I was like, all right, Austin you got this but then the second fight happened and I did not I did not fight him yet because you were did all the fighting on Sunday. And so the first part of the fight went over pretty well. I had a master stroke ready used. that I was you know, I'm pretty good with blocking, but I'm not good at returning this stuff and then And then I did the second master stroke all of that kind of stuff. I got past the part that you and I got past right and I was like, okay cool. I've made it past two of zhai foces Master Strokes. I was like, I think I've got this now. I I used another one of my master Strokes which I was hoping with kill him. It didn't and yet there's actually like another phase that you and I did not get to that. I totally caught me off guard. We're his eyes start glowing Orange. Starts getting like electricity all around him. He does like the move with the laser eyes more often 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 damage. I don't think you have to trace it around the screen with your shield and make sure like you take a lot of damage from it, but you can also block a lot of damage from it. He like charges at you with these like back-to-back moves the part that got me was he's throwing he throws the like energy orbs at you and they're like massive and floret, you know would make my show bigger, but the Shield's kept breaking and I only had I had like three replenish Shields with me to use on it and I use them all up with in this fight. Like he was just completely like destroying my Shields and anyway, so he does that, you know, just kept hacking away at him used another masterstroke floret died. I started really eating through my medicinal items at that point. I even had to use the extra still do but it's like the fat the last fight right I didn't care about items. I was like if I died again, I'll just reboot the save so I don't lose all these items like I was determined here, right? Of course, you finally finally though I managed to take him down. It was a hundred percent not worth it. Um, but like I totally a hundred percent did it just for you and so we could talk about it on the show. If it was just me playing the game. I don't think I would have ever gone back like it my arm was already sore and it just like it it made it hurt so bad. It's not a fun fight the ending like, you know, the rest of the story is pretty just like generic and egg you so there's going to be some spoilers right here. So if if you don't want the ending spoiled for you, you know, you might want to skip ahead or end it right here, but I'm just going to spend like two minutes talking about spoilers for just a minute because I know a lot of people listening have played this game already the dumb hero drops the mask into lava when you're escaping from the Citadel. And like I assume that it's because I was trying to take video for you and I'm just skipping through stuff. So, you know, I yeah, I wasn't paying just complete attention to this. Also. My phone was dying. I was trying to take video for you. My phone was dying. So I was trying to get it on charger. So I take video to send you and all this stuff but I like I assume it doesn't matter now because you killed zyphus for realsies. And so the Mask doesn't have to keep him like contained anymore or whatever because that's the whole reasons I oppose comes into the world is because you / that mask into like chapter five or whatever chapter. It was yeah, whenever you like rescuing the queen or something or other it it's like oh no, you've released this ancient evil that was contained in this mask that was possessing the queen and then it's like a lava. Yeah, so I assume it didn't matter. But yeah, the hero is just like Whoopsie Daisy and like the mask Falls in lava and then you know, like a lot of Dragon Quest games. There's a little like, you know ending your at a banquet. You can talk to your party members florets brother gets turned back into a human which I don't even know if we mention that boss earlier for him. I don't think so. We didn't the Jonathan into Hey, if we hated there was a fish man boss and it turns out that he was a transformed brother of fleurette. Yeah his name. I can't even remember right now, but no idea anyway, so he's back into a human you talk to everybody you go outside you like raise your sword up your this big hero now blah-dee blah-blah credits roll. There's like a little seen it goes back to the title and all that and you can save it and do post game stuff and which I'm not going to do post game stuff. This game was super fun because you and I were playing it together. Yes. This is your knowledge game. I would have really enjoyed being alone that I would have gotten frustrated and just turned it off. Yeah, same same for me. It was fun because we're playing it together and we had like an objective like we're trying to beat it all within like a 24-hour period so so because we were together and because we had like a goal it made it more fun and I think Dragon Quest swords and I feel this way about a lot of Wii games really is it's one of those games that I don't think I would ever play by myself, but it's a really fun group game. Like I think handing it off like you and I did was a lot of fun and which you know, I mean a lot of Games, I think you're like that, you know, the emphasis is on like having fun with people. Who are you playing it? And so I thought it was good. I thought it was it's basically the sword fighting from the the Wii Sports the fencing. Yeah or whatever from the Wii sports game and and like you mentioned before, you know, it's not as refined as Skyward Sword which we looked it up and that came out like four years later, right? Yeah. I think it was 2011 that it came out and this was 2007. So so a As usual Dragon Quest was kind of inventive and you know is thinking ahead there. But and the weird thing about this one is like talking just about that alone. It's made me kind of want to play Skyward Sword that going through this one and dealing with these motion controls make me think that I might be able to deal with the Skyward Sword controls because they're still better than this. And so I played Skyward Sword and I've quit Skyward Sword because of the controls and I may have told you this already but the difference there is that Dragon Crossed Swords. Yeah, you know, I checked this a file by the way after I beat the final boss and you can save it again. Yeah, and it was nine and a half hours. So go so we were right around there with the with like how long to beat or whatever so it took us about nine and a half hours to do it, but The and that's the thing is that it's it's not in a half hours, which is relatively short Skyward Sword is a very long game and like I played I played Skyward Sword way longer and just had gotten to the Forest Temple the first Tim really simple in the game. Right? And the point made me quit is there spiders that drop down in that dungeon and you have to like you're swinging on like these buying things and Trying to get this correct / going right and it's just anyway, I wish they would remake Skyward Sword for switch or something and maybe have an option to just play it on like a real controller. I see because so much that's a good it's a good game. I love the art style and the story and world are cool. But the controllers are just so bad. So I would not recommend Skyward Sword to you just because Dragon Quest swords. I think I think they were smart and making it not like nine. To 10 hours to play through the main story. Yeah, instead of having a full like 40 our game and if it had been 40 hours, there's no way you and I would have even played the 10 that we did that it would have just been like yep that exists. Oh, yeah, we would have played it for a little while to see what it was like and maybe maybe we would have gotten 10 hours into it, but we wouldn't have liked beaten it. I mean maybe I don't think I would have beaten it. Maybe you have would happen. I would I don't think I would soak. I like you mentioned. I think we're going to do a rocket scientist owed next week, right? Yeah, I think so. If I haven't beaten it by then I will have gotten through enough of it to be able to really have have feelings about it more than I do right now. 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Welcome to Episode 14 of Dragon Quest FM! This week we’re talking about Dragon Quest Swords: The Masked Queen and the Tower of Mirrors, which was released on the Nintendo Wii in 2007. For a game that’s 12 years old, it’s fun and looks pretty. When B.J. was in town with Austin, we decided to play it together. But we only had about 24 hours to speedrun the whole thing, which was tricky. Thus, the Journey to Beat Dragon Quest Swords in a Single Weekend Began! This is a very dramatic story full of struggle, love, frustration, and...success? Failure? You’ll find out. Early in the episode, we also discuss the new demo for Dragon Quest XI S, coming out for Switch on September 27th, and the new location Tickington and the creatures known officially now as Tockles. We talk about the characters, the story, and the graphics. We also talk about the odd gameplay (for a Dragon Quest game, anyway), since it’s all first person POV and a dungeon crawler, which neither of us knew until we played it. Then, we move straight into a play-by-play of our attempt to beat Dragon Quest Swords in a very short period of time. We discuss the obstacles of having Austin’s kids in the room at the same time, how B.J. almost missed his flight because of the game, and how our arms are super tired now. 