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Now that is an understatement and they won two of their last three games in a spectacular fashion. We won't talk about that. 20-point blowing 20 point leads but we will talk about expect tacular finishes and let's also remember for I believe what is the 15th consecutive season? It least. We're not the New York Knicks. They I tell you what firing David fizzle. I talk about a coach at everybody loves because he had a couple like one line zingers. Hey take that for data mean they were they were great. They were Great singers, but the fact that people still think that he has some sort of high Echelon coach at this point. When you look at his body of work his rotations just the guys not good. I'm not saying that, you know, this isn't a next podcast but I do think it's interesting how somebody can can have those phrases go viral and how much that can change the perception of the job that They do don't worry much like the guys who have been fired from the sun's recently the stink of what happened in New York won't wash off of a measly Hill. He won't be coaching head coaching anywhere for a while. I think well, I think it is cool that we did seem to dodge a bullet. So that's good. Yeah, but the thing is it would have worked out exactly the way it did with Igor. They would have fired him. So it is what it is. All right. So if you are listening on the podcast and you want to get your voice on the intro of the show open the show notes and there is a leave a voice mail button. Go ahead and leave a voicemail if it's fine. If it's interesting will get your boys on the beginning of the show. If you're watching on YouTube right now do us a favor and subscribe on the podcast anywhere that you listen to podcasts just search for Sun solar panel speaking of podcast the no dunks podcast. Formerly the starters Basketball Jones the everyone knows that Frank the Tank made the worst of the week honors for how his voice cracked when he yelled out and one on the court. The other day was like Hey one hilarious if you guys heard that segment. Hey, you leave my nerdy friend alone the namesake of Kaminski Cove. Yeah. I love I've always loved that. I've always loved that segment on that show that the starters the Basketball Jones now, no, don't say they've always been one of the One of the top shows and podcasts at out there and they've there the ogs they started way back in 2006. So always much respect to those guys. Hold on. Hold on great, but they have sponsors so they must be trash. Hey don't ask for money. They're also selling T-shirts to so, you know those bastards bastards shout out to everyone there. So the Cavaliers are ready to start listening to trade offers for Kevin Love. This was reported by whoa, John Friday just a little bit of information on this right now because I think this would be kind of a fun exercise that will do I do have trade machine loaded up Kevin Love 31 years old 20 million dollars a year for years left on his contract. The sons would need to send Tyler John's. Well, okay, assuming for the sake of any argument. We have Tyler Johnson would be included in that would need to send Tyler Johnson & Just under 5 million dollars to make that contract work and some sort of a trade assuming that the sons would all will also have to throw and some draft Capital to make it worth it but starting off but do you guys think that a starting lineup of Ricky Rubio Devin Booker who Bray love and eight really would be a formidable force and the West yeah. Well it certainly makes the playoffs this year if that's it if that's something that you're pushing. That gets it done, I think. Oh, I think that I think the sun's current lineup is a playoff team and I have and Greg. I know you don't agree you're thinking low 30s still but I really think the current lineup is playoff. So but having said that I don't think Kevin Love makes them much better in terms of playoff seeding now their likelihood to win a playoff game could go up and they might win two or three or four more games through the rest of the year. But I mean you're talking already in my opinion a low. Is when team with the current team and the Assumption being that love would take charge's spot and a lot of kaminski's minutes. So your Frontline would be often DeAndre and Aron Baynes and and Kevin Love. That would be a really good fun team to watch Kevin Love is basically a super-sized version of Dario charge. So that's great. He doesn't play defense just like I have in fact, I think Dario's a better Defender than we give them credit for and you have a lot of would Not be as good so there'd be a little bit of concern on that but it would with the sun's be better. Yes, would they get more respect because of the people in the lineup names in the lineup? Yes, could they win more games possibly and would they have a higher seed? Probably not. I think right now the offensive rebounding and their 24th and defensive Brandon rebounding for totally bounding 27th. In the league, there's clearly an issue there. Yes part of that does have to do with the fact that that eight and bands have missed a considerable amount of time. But even that being said Dario even though he has a better Defender he is not exactly a great rebounder Frank kaminsky's not exactly great rebounder and we're having a lot of would bring that to the table and so there is value and getting rebounds. That's essentially an extra possession. Yeah. Well, Look, you're absolutely but a guy doesn't just get rebounds. See here's the thing. There's and you know this better than any of the three of us to him because you play Pick-up ball a lot, but it's not just you can't just have one guy do one thing they have to play the entire game. You got to write mother but a sequence you going to show you how I get it, but there are things that Dario charge. Does that helps a team when he is somebody posted the other day all the plus minus is cumulative for the year and charge. Like third or fourth on the team, you're not for the year plus - you're not losing sarich. He would to me look at you get better rebounding you get a more consistent offensive player at that power forward spot starting and then you improve your bench simply because your shift shifting sarich to the bench now so your bench get better defensively and you're not losing him your why do you think you're doing it happily charge because I don't think you'd have to So in this in this scenario, I don't think I'm tricks that they would wine. I mean the the only reason that the calves would not want charge to replace Kevin Love because okay if charge was in his third year, they would definitely want charge back because he is a young guy on a low deal who could you know, you could sell the fans and also sell the team on his upward mobility and all that. The only problem with storage is that he becomes a free Edge in the summer. He's going to want a little bit more money. Then when he's currently making but he is the perfect guy to slot in to replace Kevin Love and the Cavaliers lineup because you got to look at it from the Cavaliers point of view to they want at least be respectable. You're very few times to be embarrassing like the sons of wanted to be in the last few years. And so they're going to want something back in charge is just 25. He is still in his rookie deal. He does approximately two-thirds of what Kevin Love does and please believe me. I would trade for Kevin Love tomorrow and I would give them darsh Arch and I'll give them Tyler Johnson and I would give my heavily protected first-round pick and I'll give Melia Kobo so they have somebody who can actually pass the ball playing in their backcourt and Cobo probably would look like a giant compared to their starting backcourt right now with garlanded Sexton. I would do all that in a heartbeat. I'm not saying I'm not suggesting. Otherwise, I'm just saying the Dario is a mini version of Kevin Love. And that's the kind of guy of want back if I The Cavs I imagine those end of the quarter lineups that Monte rolls out that just have zero offense to them. I mean, there's just nobody that can score on their own and those lineups and they don't have a point guard out there that can create shots for others really at this point how good Kevin Love would be in those situational and imagine imagine Kevin Love playing with Ricky Rubio again, I mean when Kevin Love was considered a top 10 player, he's not anymore. More but when he was considered a top 10 player was when he was playing with Ricky Rubio and they were actually both Playmakers because love would do it off the elbow and Ricky obviously doesn't his way that we've been watching the last 20 some games. We get a lot more Play Making Love would have a chance to go back to his best role and I think I think it would be fun to watch for sure. All I'm saying is I don't think that gets him a high seed doesn't make him a contender anything that no, no. Not right now for sure. I mean what the only thing that's going to make this team of contender and let's be honest is is D'Andre eating turning into a star in this league. That's that's what we'll turn this team into a contender in the long run because Booker needs that guy next to him and you're just not going to acquire him in free agency or trade you need DeAndre and to become that guy that is the only way this roster becomes a championship contender in the next. For five years is D'Andre baton taking that step. I don't care who you acquire. You're not going to you're not going to be able to acquire somebody that's going to put you in that Echelon, but that would certainly set you up for if DeAndre and does take that jump that that you would have a roster around those guys that could contend. I think that's what you're looking at in that and it solves at least for the short term the the question of Who is the power forward on this team which we've known as been a gaping hole for the last few years. So well, I just I want you guys to imagine Ricky Rubio with a horn set and Kevin Love picking popping DeAndre and rolling to the basket and Kelly Ray as well as Devin Booker out there on the corners. Oh, I know be so fun to watch. Well, then you have then you have Baines. And coming off the bench charger Kaminsky as the backup for whoever is still with your roster depending on how the trade goes down. All of a sudden everything looks a little bit better in that, you know the capital of at the elbow passing to Devin Booker when he's cutting just oh shit, it would be nice. Okay. So let's uh, let's talk. I'm I think we're all about it at all though. Dave does bring up some great points that so when make them a contender contender, I do have the trade machine fired up. There's one thing we need to talk about in a dress because it is the elephant in the room when it comes to the need for Aaron Gordon on this team. Well, it's the it's the injuries, right? How concerned are you that Kevin Love is just going to be another in the long line of guys like, you know, like Penny Hardaway and Danny Manning guys that you acquire that are at the tail end of their their Prime that I wanted to become a you know, Tom gugliotta got guys that wind up becoming more question marks than answers because of injuries and other factors or sure. There's that started with that was Kevin Love because that seems to be why most people say no way you can't get Kevin Love. He's broken down and he's not he's not. Let's be honest. Let's be honest. I'd rather have a healthy da Richard and Frank Kaminsky then an injured Kevin Love. Yeah. Thank you very much. I know you're all will kidding. No, but I mean, you know and you could argue if you had a fully actualized REO sarich. You would need to acquire Kevin Love, but we're not at that point with was sorry. So I'm not overly concerned because you're going to the only way this team is going to get better is by taking a chance on someone that has some question mark at either at power forward. I mean, Aaron Gordon has his own question marks and an injury history Blake. Griffin's another name you've heard that's another guy that has all sorts of of injury histories. You're not going to get the perfect guy there. You're going to have to take somebody with some kind of question mark and I guess it I guess what it comes down to is is Kevin Love's question mark the one you want. You want to roll the dice on and how much would be worth it to send off right? Well, it's too bad that we can't just rent we'd like to Figure out if we like him. Can we because 90 million 91 million dollars as Christian Phoenix pointed out here on Twitter 91 million dollars after this season is what you owe him and he'll be 32 33 34 in the next few see Ah that's going to be rough. So can we do one of those rent-to-own programs? That would be great. Hi interests. You gotta you gotta pay the Cavs a lot extra Lobby. 40% of NBA rosters changed every year so, you know, the the the point of you can never trade a guy after you get him. I just don't necessarily agree with the sons could retrain him. That's for sure. So assuming that the sun's can we are we all in agreement that the sons would be sending Tyler Johnson and this deal. Yeah. Well you have to that's the only with the salaries work. Wow, we do agree could send Devon Deborah Kerr. Yeah. Yeah, okay. So yes Tyler Johnson just going to going to Cleveland. Yeah, I suppose you could send Ricky Rubio and a couple of other players to all right, so who would be who would be the one player that you would assume that the Cavaliers would definitely say we want on top of Tyler Johnson is expiring contract. Well, are we thinking in ago they going to want or who are they going to occur? Except yeah, except would this not would they they probably want cam Johnson with the sun's be willing to trade with the cam Johnson. No, but I think Mikhail Bridges is another name that intrigues a lot of people and I wonder if that's a piece that there will there they're willing to move in if the right name comes about I don't think Kevin Love's probably that guy, but I certainly think that's a name that's going to Intrigue teams. Will the sun's come to the trade table and with Cam Johnson's emergence. It may be somebody that they are a little bit more comfortable moving for the right person. I think definitely mikal Bridges is the guy although he hasn't been playing as well. So it would have to take a Savvy GM to want him. He's he doesn't have the little flashy quickie stats offensively. That's for sure, but I can definitely see a Savage am wanting mikkel Bridges as as a make-or-break guy to sued for sure. So probably Evelyn will want him because they don't have FEG that that trade worry that trade works. By the way, you probably have to throw in protected first-round pick how heavy with the Suns have or how light would they have to go on that protected pick if it was Tyler Johnson and Michelle Bridges not I think you could protect it. It was very hectic. Yeah, like what's very heavily was that mean something that almost certainly become second round pick or nothing at all, if Um, if the sun, yeah, it's something that almost certainly becomes second-round picks in the future unless the Suns win a championship. Look I can then it becomes a late first like it's got to be like a top 20 top 25 protected leaf or something like that. Look what I do is I offer I cover the table. You can have Tyler Johnson Frank Kaminsky and I'll give you my pick next year that's top five protected and not five. Yeah. Oh my god. Do you really need to Dad, listen, do you really need to add another another young guy to this mix? They're already the youngest team in the NBA. They destroyed that they can move on from other young guys. They already have always got to say we're willing to trade actual draft assets for players like they're happy. Talking about a guy who has injury history and is owed 90 million dollars three years after this stick right after nausea skills that they need look and and for me what this comes down to is, would you rather have Mikhail Bridges long-term or or roll? The dice on another guy you're going to you're going to draft Mikael is a known quantity. We all agree as a high ceiling, but I would not also give a first round pick I said Frank Ski, not McHale in it. I said I said Tyler Johnson Frank Kaminsky and a top-five protected pick and what would other teams be willing to give to because that's a thing of the sun's want to get them in. There's other teams bidding the Suns have to outbid right? So they have today after come with an offer that works that is better than what other teams are willing. Assuming. Everybody's been given the same deadline and they're all making the yeah fits the trade deadline. Yes, you have to outbid your competition. Sometimes it's just a matter of who you called at the right time too because some of these Trades happen in other GM's are like what the hell, you know and KP was traded last year. Nobody knew he was even on the market. So or that they were willing to accept deals yet. You know, I think they knew it was on the market. But well, here's another name that came up this week and it's not on the show sheet. So I apologize guys, but Lori Martin and his name was was mentioned. This week is potentially not being with the bulls any longer. Is that something that intrigued I would more because he's younger give up almost. More for Kelly. Yeah for Lori marketing really see I wouldn't and and okay. So Iverson Vlogs in the chat says and I've seen this a lot on Twitter as well go get dark Danilo Gallinari rather than Kevin Love and my aunt my my response to that is no because you're getting the same kind of guy with no with no guarantee. He's going to be here Beyond this year. I don't think That that's what you're looking for. If you're going to make a move here is just getting a guy that's going to you know, plug a hole for the remainder of the year. You need to get an answer. That's this year next year the year after in this. I don't think Danilo Gallinari for six months and renting him is what what you're looking to do. I would do that though see Greg, I would I would do Danilo Gallinari as long as you're not given up too many assets because he's in a he's an expiring Okay, is it was yeah, if it was just time she's inspiring. I am pretty sure that Danilo Gallinari is an expired. Okay. Well, that's the case and that's the rental you'd always want. That's perfect. I would get if if they're just like sure will take Tyler Johnson and nothing back for for Gallinari you do it but that's not the way it's going to work. It's not going to work either. Yeah. Hey, I'll give you a bunch of trash. Can I have that useful piece you got over there? Sorry, I didn't sorry L is salary Tides were no I think you I think you've just blown the minds of 95% of NBA fans. Okay. So going off the rails a little bit figured out though that the sons is long as they include a player that's making as much as mykel Bridges and to this they the the trade works from a contractual standpoint from a monetary standpoint. So your options here being McHale. Bridges Frank Kaminsky Dario sharukh and cam Johnson right of those players which one is most likely that the sons would have to include in order for this trade to happen. Not what we would want them to but what they would have to include in order to make this trade happen. I think it would probably have to be Bridges you might be able to talk them into storage like Dave was talking about earlier depending on how to draft that's better. Yeah. Yeah, you're going to have to have a draft asset if that's the case, but I think I think Mikhail is going to be what what they want as the sweetener in a deal would be you Tyler Johnson McHale. And and then in that case you get a highly protected pick in there. I don't I that may be too rich for for James Jones has blood I don't know. I don't know where he stands on mikkel. I could never get quite a read. We always heard. You know now and I've heard from people that that Mikhail was a server pick, obviously it was Che guilders Alexander that the front office will general manager Ryan McDonald wanted but I don't know where James Jones stood on it. I don't know if Robert wanted McHale because James Jones wanted Mikhail. I don't know what that is. I've heard different variations of of why he wanted. So, I don't know if James Jones is necessarily attached to Mikhail Bridges and maybe he would be willing to move on then somebody in the chat and forgive me. I don't remember who was also brought up James Jones and Kevin Love have a great relationship from from their time together with the Cavs when they won. Yeah, they were really they were close friends. There was a lot of those guys that were close friends and cast for sure, but you know what I was thinking about that that doesn't mean you trade for your friend. I mean being a As friend sometimes tells you this isn't the guy that fits on this team because you know him so well exactly that yeah don't make assumptions of just because they like each other means they'll that one will trade for the other but it means he has everything he needs to know about Kevin Love to decide if he's willing to give up a little bit more than somebody else might be because he I mean he knows him. He's been to battle with him. He can basically tell you the what what he'll be able to Polish plus he's got Ricky Rubio who spent years and years with him as well. So if there's ever a team that knows everything they need to about Kevin Love to go all in on him. It's the sun's and if they don't if they don't make offers for him that speaks volumes to me as well about about Kevin Love will learn a lot if the sun's completely sit out on Kevin Love. Yeah. Now I completely completely and utterly agree cool. So the other thing is that can we talk just let's that's one more angle on this. What are the things that failed the sun's back in 2014 was taking some early success and trying to turn that into a media contention and James Jones did a really good job this past summer of saying the sun's up for the future as well as the present. The president was supposed to be raising the floor and a stepping stone, which they're currently doing and then, you know, just growing from there because the core is Aiden and Bank Aiden and Sorry, not even Baines but a tanning and Booker and then just seeing what happens organically and saying themselves up to have all their money in the summer of 2021. If you 30 games in 40 games in whatever it is suddenly drop everything and go after a Kevin Love. You're saying this is my core. I'm not going to have any Financial flexibility. I'm going to have to make trays which James Jones doesn't love doing at least he said he doesn't love doing maybe starts. Liking them now, but you know, it makes it a lot less flexible for you in the future if you drop everything and suddenly you're a now now now team. Yeah, but this is different than that 48 win team. No because if you look at that, it was Goring and Bledsoe was the core there and then you had Gerald Green and Miles Plumlee like we were talking about guys playing so far over their heads and when you look at this roster, you have two young pieces that everybody feels Like well, I won't say everybody when it comes to eating but many people feel like can be cornerstones for you. I solid point guard like this is a balanced roster and you'd be making a move for a position. You need not a third point guard with the way they went quote-unquote all in with it. So I think I understand the hesitation but I don't think this is this is the same kind of situation when you look at the pieces that are here and and the way this is laid. A doubt this would just be James Jones going. All right. Well this team has taken steps to raise that floor further than we thought and I think we can take that next step in season rather than waiting for the offseason. Also. This is the Suns have to clear holes and their roster and that is power forward and backup point guard this fills that which I do think makes it a little bit different and also Kevin Love Don't forget can play the five and you can have a sharp edge out there. With love and but I think your point Greg at the sun sit this one out with all of the knowledge that they have on Kevin Love that that is the biggest Telltale sign and everything. We need to know about it a day right side night coming out. 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We finally got the site launched that collects donations. It took a little bit longer than anyone thought this year because it people get busy but finally got that site launched. It is Sons.com bright side. Yes. That's Sons.com / bright side Sons.com / bright side and all it takes is nine dollars to send to kids to a game how incredible of a deal is that we do this every year last year. We got 3,300 kids sent to a game. That was pretty awesome this year the sun's because they were laid on getting the site up for donations. The sons are just immediately matching. All donations and these are $9 seats in the upper deck that we're getting for kids. So they actually it works out to two tickets for only nine dollars and I really I mean there's nothing better. Nothing better that you could possibly do. In fact, I calculated it out that we could fill up the entire Arena if everybody reads bright side each day one day's worth of readers donated nine dollars. We can fill up the entire Arena now, of course every year that isn't what happened. Most people ignore that the least read articles on my side or the ones pimping for donations for these tickets. It's because people don't like to give away their money, but you know what you buy Starbucks for you and your you and your buddy or you and your girlfriend or whatever it is. Guess what you could have you could have changed the lives of a couple of kids bright side night is great because kids get to go to a Suns game and experience an NBA game for the very first time and I remember my first NBA game remember almost every NBA game of ever been to because they're It's so fun. It's a such a different experience than these kids will ever get in their young lives. And that's what I'm trying to do. I'm trying to give back to our community. I'm trying to give back to the Phoenix community that has supported me and supported the sun's for 40 years. We're creating a new generation of son's fans with with these giveaways and all I need is a few of your dollars you guys donate to all kinds of stuff you donate your you donate everything because you donate It's here and there and you donate actually to retail stores to buy stuff that you're going to consume in about five minutes. And then then never never see your money again. How about give it to a couple of kids nine dollars for half the cost of a Starbucks cup of coffee. You can send two children to Phoenix Suns game. And for the first time in years of bright side night. It's no longer torturing them. It's actually going to give them great enjoyment to see a good ball team play a game that that we all love. I highly recommend donating to Bright Side night. I don't she'll for day very often or at all. But in this case, I suggest we know you're always people are always trying to get us to stop fighting on Twitter because you're such an asshole. I love it. They think it's real to guess what Dave and I would not sit here for as many hours as we have doing the show if we actually hated each other we I'm sorry to blow that illusion. But please donate the bright side night find it in your heart it because I actually, you know, I remember to this day being a nine-year-old and getting to go to my first son's game and and sitting in that upper deck and just thinking that it it was the greatest thing in the world to get a chance to be in that building that I had listened to Al McCoy described and watched on UPN or actually back then it Probably would have been just a channel 45. I don't even think they had an affiliation. Oh, yeah, I remember channel 45 Channel 9. Yeah, I mean so it'll mean something to these kids and that nine dollars and whatever you probably spend would not mean that much to you. So I definitely you're not even if you're not even gonna miss the nine dollars, you're not even going to miss it and you know, what else let's talk about what you get out of this stuff. All right, if you if you actually donate 10 tickets 90 bucks that actually becomes 20 kids going to a game and you'll get your own pair of tickets to the game that you would have spent 90 bucks to get anyway. If you do and you get invited to a pregame interview session with James Jones that nobody else gets to have well, I hope it's James Jones is here. We haven't gotten a confirmation. It'll be somebody from the sun's front office and for years, we've had the GM or assistant GM each time. Give me Trevor bucks doing fine. Yeah. Well, why not sure I would love to have trouble. Jeff Bauer anybody, you know, it would be fun. It would be really fun. And that's all you got to do. All you got to do is donate a little bit of money. And if you give give just a little bit of money you get kids changing their lives. If you don't a little bit more money you get stuff for yourself tickets to the game free access to the GM. I mean, come on, what's better than that and look at that for 200. Well Don then put 25 tickets which turns into 50 kids for 225 bucks. Will even will if you can make it to the game will give you the lower level tickets to the game and will honor you pregame on the court with a big announcement for everybody a cheer and recognize how many kids that you guys helped donate and get to Bright Side night. Look guys. I'm going to put my money where my mouth is. I'm going to take what I my share of of our earnings from this this last month and I'm going to I'm going to donate at what is that 11 tickets? I think I'm going to throw in a little my own cash. There I think I'm gonna donate 11 tickets to this guy's just because that's how much I want to immediately because the sons are matching. So I'd so let's let's do that. Let's get out there. Let's help these kids have a memory that they won't soon. Forget Dave one one. Is that date? Who are these kids going to get to see and one is it? Yeah, so the game is very similar to last year. Actually the sons played the Kings on bright side night last year. They're doing that again this year. It is against the Kings. It's on January 7th. Only one day off from last year too. And that will be against Marvin Bagley should be back de'aaron Fox should be back. Hopefully, you know DeAndre and I'll be back unless he's been suspended for something else or is injured but everybody should be available for that game. That is Son's against the Kings on Tuesday January 7th. So this is a really fast track thing now, I do have to say that I'm hugely impressed with folks. So you guys are so used to this a lot of you have already donated. I only posted the started collecting two days ago two and a half days ago and we're up over fifteen hundred tickets donated already, but I want to get over 3000 we did three thousand like we 3,300 last year. I want to top that of possible. Well, like I said, we could fill up an entire Arena of everybody just donates a little bit. So let's go for this. Thank you Greg. I'm going to turn around my solar flares money as well solar. Sorry money as well and donate that to the kids. So we're it's going to add up and I know Tim's going to do something like that as well. He hasn't spoken up yet, but we're going to twist his arm and and twist whatever it takes to get him. He's gonna donate his run with the segment. He's going to donate his glasses money for December to the kids in need. Let's make this happen. So we will talk about it on future episodes all the way leading up to it is a wonderful way that you can send an underprivileged child to a basketball game. When I was in Orlando this last week thing the sun's lose by 20 to the magic. There was a large group of boys and girls club kids that were there. And it totally reminded me of what you put on Dave and it was just an amazing thing to see all these kids at the game. You could tell it mattered to them. They don't get to go do the sort of thing very often sporting events are really expensive and these are underprivileged kids that do not get to do stuff like this. It's it's important. So please donate if you can't nine bucks gets two kids to a game. All right, you guys want to do the stat of the week? Sure. All right do it the the plus/minus totals for the season Dave was talking about this earlier. We are going to go in terms. We're going to go backwards Tyler Johnson so far this season plus minus minus 79 points. That's worse on the team. Cam Johnson. Yeah, let's not wait. Let's talk about context really quick on plus minus plus minus individually is a very dirty stat. It all depends on where you know who you're playing with at the time you were playing blah blah blah blah blah, but after 20 games accumulative plus As a viewer of all the different lineups you've been in and and what kind of impact you've had on the game deck starts to mean a little bit. I think a little more than an individual game or a week or whatever. This is two and a half months of plus minus. So Tim's going backwards on it. And so worst to best and it is very telling and I think it does pass the eye test. The Tyler Johnson has had the most the least amount of success will say that well, Turn it to a positive the least amount of success in a son's uniform this year. All right, cam Johnson next - 28 in his time as a rookie. That's to be expected because rookies don't know how to make winning plays tied Jerome - 18 saying that's interesting tied to Rome's is cumulative. He's only played three games. Whereas these other guys who played 18 to 21 games. That's actually not very good for Thai Jerome at all. yep, Frank Kaminsky - 16 Yeah passes the eye test. It doesn't rank that looks like somebody always kicked his dog. Well, I also with the Frank Kaminsky I look I just don't think it's fair that he is out there playing the starting center position honestly, so he's playing out of position for shy out of position and he's probably shouldn't be in the starting lineup. Right? No definitely shouldn't be in the starting lineup and nobody thought he ever ever would be so I mean he's doing what he can but the way somebody said I look like Kaminsky and I don't see it. I think they saw a white guy with beard and and it just rolled with it. It's funny. They wouldn't even have a beard Dave. What did your girlfriend say about Frank Kaminsky? Yeah. He is the way he reacts to whatever play happens. He looks like he's never been good enough like oh shoulders always look slumped in his face always looks slack. Maybe that's what they were referring to. She's a guy that looks too. Oppressed yes, I fall into that category. I know your music selection shakka Diallo negative one. That's actually pretty good considering all these other guys are basically bench guys, check the aloe being one of the better ones on among those units because you know, you are who with sometimes like I said, this is a cumulative stat over the course of the year to interesting to see how Guys shake out Scheck. Out and check is actually done pretty well with a -1 cumulative over the course of the year. I've been really impressed with which affect yellow but our IP after that poster dump that happened the hey at least he was willing to get in there. Yeah. I never I never give anybody a hard time forgetting forgetting dunked on because to Dave's point. It's a lot of guys just move to the side. So except Brandon Knight. We always would give him crap. You're done with that. He's been under Jordan that would require caring. No, he doesn't Miguel Bridges. He is a net zero and that is actually pretty good again. Just like check the aloe mikkel and check have had a pretty good impact off the off the bench. I think that's that's a good sign. And that's just at that shows you Mikhail bridges does the little things and it doesn't always show up and in the regular stat line, but that's that shows you what he's what he's accomplishing out there. Devon Carter positive 13 Devon Carter's mom is these cheering right now because that's another case of a guy coming off the bench and having a positive impact. That's good. That's funny rip Ford and YouTube chat said go after Anthony Davidson said of Kevin Love obvious. Why not? Yeah, LeBron to throw that in there, too. Does that good sign it isn't it is interesting though. I will point out that among the starters this year Kelly oubre is down at the bottom of this list. I can tell you re also though, I believe I mean if you don't include Frank without without having it the the lineups in front of me from an eye test of memory I test I believe that Kelly Ray is also the starter that is out there the most or at least first with those all bench lineups. He seems to be the one that Monty spend a lot of time with the bench lineups as their score. Absolutely. You're right. So that does bring him back a little bit. Bring them down a little bit DeAndre Aiden positive 25 inches one game one game and that is encouraging it matches. The number of games. He's been so offended for so why not? Let me just make a comment. It's been so long since we've seen DeAndre Aidan. It's like it is a little difficult to remember what how he plays And yet when you watch check the aloe and you see some of the touch the check has around the basket and his touch shots is feel it feels so much nicer to watch than a Francoeur Dario trying to make a layup DeAndre Jordan has that kind of better feel actually then check the aloe and it's just going to be so nice when you actually have somebody in a more actualized version of a pick-and-roll roller and guy who's got the touch around the basket who can score how much our offense is going to be so much more efficient. It's going to be fun to watch so whenever you are happy about check the aloe think about DeAndre and because that's the kind of especially offensively that's the kind of impact. He's going to have Devin Booker a positive 36. No surprise. They thought he was a guy who can't win. Also Devin Booker. He has six 30 point games this year member they said, oh the more he scores the less the sun's can Wendy doesn't impact winning blah blah blah. It's under five and one with Devin Booker scores 30 plus This year. Thank you very much. Do you want I mean basically what encapsulate everything about Devin Booker is they win in New Orleans the other night, right? He has 44 and I great stat line and ESPN gives their stat line of the night to freaking Lonzo ball in that game and says, well he didn't get the win but he had a great line and it's like the guy who got the win had a better long time in the ultimate slap because that was the reason they wouldn't put Booker up there is because he Didn't get the wins. Yeah, it's just ridiculous. Elia Kobo a positive 41. This shocked me. This is the most shocking number on this entire list Elia Kobo by far is the most impactful non-starter positive on the scoreboard of anybody this year and he has looked fairly good. I mean, I think you don't want to over expose the guy with too many minutes, but he's Looks fairly good. He's made some shots. He's making forty percent of his threes this year. He's only shooting 40% from the floor somehow. I don't know how he's only shooting 40% from the fork is it seems like he makes every single layup and he shoots threes and that's all I've ever seen. So I think he's he's actually played pretty well this year and he's got he's also has a 38 to for assist to turnover numbers this year cumulatively. So I think that's that's really nice to see it's it's interesting too because this was a guy that the only reason he's on the roster because he had a guaranteed contract so and they couldn't find a trade partner for him from everything. We've heard that that seems to be the reason he's on the roster and better he plays the more chance. He could be included as that trait sweetener. I love it. I agree and I mean I've been impressed because the a guy like that could easily just fold and go. Well, you know what this team doesn't want me and I'm just going to earn my check but he's he's growing and he's doing things that we didn't expect so Props. All right. Third best on the team. Is it Dario Shari chat a well second and third Dario storage. And Aron Baynes are both tied for a positive 44. I thought you were going to say that somehow Ricky Rubio was a was three and two on the list. He's been that good but well charge it has done his +44 cumulative and almost twice as many minutes as bein. So we still want to rank beans as the second-best. So it's in the right order there Tim charge though. You got to you got to give him props man. The guy does not fill up the stat sheet and he's perfectly okay with that but he has a positive impact on the game and you need guys like that in your lineups. Yeah, not not a surprise to me at all and they also rates rebounder on the team this year on one of the League's worst rebounding teams, but at least he's trying and the great overpay of the Goes to Ricky Rubio who is a positive 76 is there the season anything that was a dumber take from this summer then that that Ricky Rubio somehow was overpaid for what he's been able to do in the impact and and those of us that we're looking at it were saying this is exactly what he was going to do for this deal. What's even scarier about this is that ESPN build that worst signing of the summer? Summer as a collection of anonymous votes by NBA front office personnel, which is insane. It's not even bloggers. It's not even media people. It's not even those shiny shiny diamonds, you know shiny things people. It's supposed to be these GM's. Well, you know what? I have to question the sources of these of these ESPN guys then because those can't be very good front office people if they literally thought Ricky Rubio adding a point guard. Team desperate for a point guard was the worst signing of the summer. He was look let's recap Ricky Rubio is about the 19th highest-paid point guard in the league and he's one is definitely better than that as far as value to a team and he's always been very good. He's eighth season. He's been around he's been around how can you possibly think he was the worst signing of this of the offseason? I think they have terrible sources or they're lying. I don't know what it is, but that's the scariest part about that entire. ER were signing the offseason thing that was supposed to be MBA front office Personnel. Look, do you really think that MBA GM's are sitting there filling out surveys that ESPN's asked him to they probably handed it to some in Kern in their in their Department to do that stuff. Right? Right, right, but still the they still should have Collective group think of pot of knowing how to sign smart NBA players and good NBA players. That is I just I'm my mind is blown. Well, let's be fair. I think you overrate the intelligence of some MBA general managers. When you look at the mess that the Knicks are and other teams in this league. I don't think it is as simple as that, but what at Ricky Rubio has been spectacular and the the numbers back that up it we're not just being homers when it comes to Ricky Rubio in the past the other night in New Orleans and over time that he had. I still don't know how I pulled that off you fake the cameraman even in that so well in that entire over time, he just dominated the entire overtime is so it was really fun to watch my it still will remain one of my favorite worst takes of the summer was Ricky Rubio being an overpay when he is the 17th highest starting paid point guard in the NBA. Just don't come at me with the him being with the 17th highest paid starting point guard is not an over pay at 17. It's Than average pay right that whole thing is bothering me all your all your all so that was an absolutely not no repay. And he was making 15 million with the jazz on his on his first free agent deal, you know that after his rookie contract. So it's not like you got a huge jump either like Cory Joseph and other guys like that who are well over paper in and clean did a really good job on bright side of the sun.com yesterday where he analyzed the other free. Agent rookie deals and how they're doing this year and they're not doing well, you know, let's newsflash. Those guys are not doing as well as they as everyone thought they would yet. Ricky Rubio is out playing even when you signed for into Tim's point. That wasn't even an overpaid. Just go look at you all you guys just go look at his replacement in Utah and then tell me that Ricky Rubio wasn't for twice the money. Yeah exactly on these making twice the money. It was 100 and guess what? Rachel is not looking as good this year. Is it possible Ricky Rubio? Held Donovan Mitchell look better because now Devin Booker is looking better next to Ricky Rubio. Hey watching on YouTube right now. Just a favorite that thumbs up button. It really does help the show out. Thank you guys so much you get you a shirt. That just says that Tim. Yeah, that's right. You guys could do it every once in a while. That would also work. Well, yeah, you know hitting that thumbs up button is grayed. Make sure you guys do that. And if you're watching no matter when you're watching this could be days weeks later still hit that thumbs up. Okay, it always still matters to him could use an ego boost. So please hit that thumbs up it says occur. See the keep them afloat every week. It's for me. It's not for the YouTube algorithm. It's not listen. So there has been closing this out two segments of the show. We got go a little bit quicker through this and we were going to but there has been some pretty big changes when it comes to the backup starting point guard rotation with the Phoenix Suns. I'm just going to list these players out really quickly. Give me like a minute and a half here to throw a whole lot of stats and numbers that you guys tied Rome this season three point seven points four assists 2.3 steals Devon Carter. 4.1 points 1 Point 9 assists point nine steals per game Elia Kobo four point two points 2.5 assist point three steals. Tyler Johnson six point nine point zero point three a says pointing three steals. Yes. We just went over the plus minus. So you guys have all that information there as well. The sun's averse the maps November 29th. Tyler Johnson played 15 minutes L. EcoBoost played 13 minutes. Javon Carter was a dnp tied to Rome was still not available to play the sun's first the Hornets December 2nd. Jerome inserted into that lineup. He played 12 minutes. Javon Carter got nine Tyler Johnson and Elia Kobo were both D NP s then against the magic you there was a lot of garbage time like an entire quarter of garbage. I'm in this game. But Ty Jerome 18 minutes Carter 18 minutes Elia Kobo, four minutes. Tyler Johnson another dnp. The sun's versus Pelicans tied Rome 9 Minutes Elia Kobo to with Tyler Johnson and car both getting dmps on That game what is up with the backup point guard rotation? And is Monty doing the right thing Auntie's trying to figure out what is backup point guard rotation is when you get tied Jerome back in the back of the mix after coming back from injuries got to figure out how to work him in what the minutes are and I think it's going to going to be situational sometimes I think Javon Carter gives you a obviously a little bit more defensively I would I would Only love to just see them roll with with some combination of Ty Jerome and Elliot Kobo to just understand what you have with those guys tied. Jerome is probably the closest thing you have on the roster to being able to do similar things obviously not as well but similar things to what Ricky Rubio does. So if he can if he can continue to grow Blossom as he as he gets these minutes. He probably makes it the easiest transition. When you go from Ricky Rubio do a backup point guard and I just I dry Delia Kobo out until and until he either proves that this was a fluke of a start or that this is who he is and give him minutes. I just we've seen what drove on Carter's going to be. We know what Tyler Johnson is and that he's not going to be a long-term part of the future of this team. So so I dried it out with those guys, honestly, you know, I'm really disappointed. I'm really Really disappointed in Tyler Johnson's impact on the game. I know the guys playing hard. He's trying hard. There's never been an effort question on his effort and his voice and his his demeanor and all that as part of the team as a vocal part of the team has been extremely good for the sun's I'm just disappointed that he hasn't had a better impact on the games because he is instill in my mind the best the ideal third guard on this team. He just hasn't played. I'd like it and so he's forcing money to do different things. But man they're already relying a lot on cam Johnson and you could just tell Cam is doing the best. He possibly can be still as a rookie. He doesn't know. I mean, he's almost play as many games already this year Kim as he played last year at UNC. I mean, it's not it's he's going to hit a wall pretty soon. And so what I'm why I'm saying that is because if you play Ty Jerome too much, then you got to Ricky's in your lineup in part of the problem for the sun's this past week since tied. Rome has been inserted is that now they're playing two rookies into second year man a lot in that second in that backup rotation. And that's just too many kids. I really think I really wish Tyler Johnson was playing better and he may end up back in that rotation after a little bit of time to figure out where he fits but Tyler Johnson is not a great passer and that could be part of the problem where the sun's offense just bogs down because they're used to Ricky running the show and you're right Greg the Thai Jerome might be the best. Best replacement for Ricky on the team as far as a passer for sure. It is funny that none of us are including Elia Kobo as a guy who must play even though he's got the best plus minus of all of them and he's been playing very well. I think we're all kind of out on Elia Kobo and we're hoping tie Jerome becomes, you know, the guy who who is dad thinks he should be in the NBA because I think it's so funny. Every time I see charge Roman accorded looks like some dude you pulled out of the stands and gave it to you know, Warm. They just Cooks everybody on the court I think is great. But it looks like some guy you just gave you uniform to and and it's just interesting. It's really interesting and Greg. I think you summed it up. None of them are really good enough to be a really good backup point guard right now so we can only hope one of them starts playing better and more consistently. Well the thing I mean you bring up youth the thing is three out of your four options are going to be that it's either, you know, a first year or second year guy. And Jerome a Kobo and and Carter. So you've got a you have to pick your poison with that and tie Jerome are not tied Roma at Tyler Johnson is gonna be freezing his ass off and Cleveland soon enough. So he's not going to be an option. So we'll see somebody in the chat. And again, I apologize it was earlier and I don't remember who brought up the fact if you pick up a player or if you acquire a player like a Kevin Love It Could ease the necessity to have a Playmaking point guard on that second unit depending on how you stagger the lineup. He's Kevin Love is such a good passer as well. So that could help too. But there's Monty Williams is doing the right thing right now because he has to try to figure out what he has in this group and since tie Jerome didn't start the season that that's part of this. He's got a he's got to figure it out on the Fly and that's what he's doing as he been too aggressive. With the Tyler Johnson dnp. Clearly in exchange for Thai Jerome. Well, I think it's I you've got to try tie Jerome out and he's got to take somebody's minutes so I could see why Monty did that I'd all of us won all of us look all of us just want better play and so my knees trying for the same thing and he's looking and mixing and matching to see which combinations of players are good and they do have some analytics and they can tell that Tyler Johnson has had the Impact on the team this year. It's not Tyler's fault necessarily. He's just not having his not fitting perfectly with this team. And so maybe that'll change and hopefully it will change but yeah is money being too aggressive. You got to try all the guys on your roster. If you never try a guy then you're always going to second-guess you second-guess yourself to see if maybe that guy was going to be better and he really really likes Thai Jerome clearly. So I Jerome had a great preseason. Hey if this If this team were on a 5 and 2 7 and 4 run right now and he was doing this. I would probably lean towards too aggressive, but they have struggled lately. So you have to be aggressive in trying to figure out ways to rectify that and I think that's what he's doing. He realizes that that second unit needs some kind of stabling force at point guard and then he's trying to figure out how that will look and he's trying to get that figured out. So when One DeAndre and comes back and you have another seismic shift with your with your bench unit by adding, you know, Kaminsky and Baines back in there when he's when he's not injured that all of a sudden you have at least have that point guard portion of it of it figured out and how you're going to utilize it right and finishing off the episode with Espo's donkey Award of the week quick reminder. This is in honor. Honor of neat Duncan being a never mind. I'm not going to use that phrase but we've named it in honor of him since he's blocked us all we can't see his horrible takes so we find other people on Twitter who have horrible Sons takes in honor of Nate Duncan this week. It's @j boss. I think it's boss. It's be osse and he says in a conversation about DeAndre and the guy is a bust. Hence why he's currently in a halfway house for drugs. Well, Okay, okay. Okay. Okay, at least early at nearly every player. Is taking something that enhances their game and DeAndre is the guy that got caught and it's shitty and he shouldn't have been doing it. But we have to stop pretending that nobody else is right. What I am what I am was unaware of is how strict this MBA policy is that players that are suspended have to move into a halfway house. I wasn't aware of this but I wish But you did for me because that would certainly stopped a lot of this. I mean, could you imagine if LeBron got busted for it and had to leave his Palacios Mansion to live in a halfway house. I mean that makes it makes it pretty clear that you don't want to do it. So yeah, I think Tim's Tim's made a really good point at that. These guys are all taking something. They're just not let's say uninformed. They're not uninformed about this EV a policy that list specific drugs that will be tested for I mean the CBA policy collective bargaining agreement is is clear on exactly which things that they're going to test for. All you got to do is pick something else. So DeAndre and is just the one who was less informed than he should have been we'll call it that so JBoss enjoy your donkey award will not be mailing it to you halfway house for drugs. We don't even know what drugs he was taking. We don't even know if you did this or well we're yeah. Well, we're pretty sure that it wasn't steroids because to Is don't flush out with a diuretic like that. Could it have been some recreational drug that he was having too much fun with right before training camp possibly could it have been something that was just supposed to enhance his performance possibly or could it simply be that he was trying to lose some weight before training camp. We don't know what we do know is that whatever appeal they tried to file has not been successful because now down to six games left out of 25. So he clearly did know was not able to prove that. He didn't know what he was doing. He knew what he was doing. He just got bad information. He needs better people around him. Look, I'm just at a point and honestly this isn't just because of you know, DeAndre being one of the better players on the Suns, but I'm going to point where let's just be honest. These people are adults, right if they want to put something in their body let them right. It's not like I just I'm you're putting your head in the sand if you actually think That they aren't finding ways around this and that your just happened to catch the guys. Today's point that aren't doing it smart enough, right? So why why and I want the farce like I don't like I don't want this segment to come across as I was apologizing for Aiden because I'm not I think 18 is in was being an idiot. I don't think he is an idiot. I think he was being an idiot when he did this that was the end. He hurt his team. He's out 25 games out of 82, that's about a third of the season. They are definitely being hurt by his absence and I won't be able all to forgive him very soon for this and I will never trust him to do the right thing until many many years go by and he's proven he's always done. The right thing. He is not a trustworthy guy and I don't respect that. I don't respect what he did. However, he is just another NBA player like a lot of these guys. He's not a lot different than a lot of these guys. I'm not excusing it. I'm just identifying it. I know I agree wholeheartedly. I know I agree wholeheartedly. I'm not condoning. I think he I think he did something that was very selfish. We've discussed we've discussed that I'm just saying in general the whole drug testing all this thing just seems like a farce and a joke. So why why put up the front? Why not just be like it except that these guys are adults and they can make their own decisions and the league doesn't need to need to regulate they do they stop drug testing during the playoffs. Oh, yeah. Well, alright and on I know by then. We will make sure that you go to Bright Side nine dollars and to underprivileged children into a Suns game to see the sons play the Kings January 7th, and we will be back this Wednesday at 7 o'clock, Arizona time. Later. Hey guys, it's espo back to remind you that there are a many ways that you can support the show. 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