Welcome back to another episode of the conscious locker room podcast. My name is Talia Connor, and I'm the host and creator of the show and it's our mission here the conscious locker room to equip you with the tools and the insights. You can live healthier more connected more meaningful lives. So before I introduce our Guest for this week. I've got a little Public Service Announcement because the Arena men's immersion is filling up fast and there's only four spots left. So this is the four-day meant immersion at the end of January here in the southwest in Margaret River and it's going to be an epic experience. I'm really excited for it. It's going to Encompass a lot of different aspects. We're going to be diving into some breath work and some somatic release to help you really let go of You've been carrying that you no longer want to stepping into this next chapter of your life. We're going to be holding workshops around really getting clear on where you want to head really getting clear on making sure you're creating a lifestyle that aligns with your core values running some workshops around developing a deeper level of connection in the relationships in your life. And then we've also got a land Journey. So we're going to be doing a guided. Walk along a section of the cape to Cape which is going to be phenomenal to and heaps of other good stuff. So if that's something that you're interested in definitely reach out either email me or find me on Instagram at tolly O'Connor send me a message to lock in one of those last remaining spots. So our guest for today is Jeremy princi, the holistic lifestyle are so Jeremy is a legend of a Blog extremely smart and really big heart. I was trying to figure out what was You got his heart or his brain is yeah Genius of a man and then he really really cares about the work that he's doing is really passionate about it. So Jeremy is a expert in health and wellness and is also a registered chiropractor. So he's based up in bumbry that list holistic lifestyle HQ is his in bumbry. And so he's done a lot of extra studies. He's done his postgraduate studies in sports crab practic International Sports chiropractor. Tactic and then he's also done a lot of further study in in different fields. So here's a check practitioner. So he's done the holistic lifestyle coaching with the check Institute. And he's also studied with the Australian College of environmental and nutritional medicine. So why I really wanted to have a chat to Jeremy is because he in the world of holistic health and yeah, really just treating the whole body. He's somebody that I have just been following his work. Journey for a while and really respect the work that he does and he's got a big focus on the gut microbiome and got Health but incorporating that into the full picture of somebody's life style and he's really sought after practitioner specializing in a lot of chronic health conditions. So he's a wealth of knowledge is a great bloke and in this conversation, we dive into a lot of interesting topics. We spoke about the link between gut health and mental health and dive in on some specifics around that which will really insightful. We spoke about testosterone the contributing factors to low testosterone the impact that can have and then some ways that you can improve your level of testosterone to a healthy level. We also spoke about the link between sort of gut health and addiction or addictive behaviors. And the reason why that's there. We spoke about the importance of the individual approach when it comes to probiotics. So it was it was good. Jeremy had a nice little little healthy rant about the importance of taking an individual approach to that and not just getting random full spectrum over-the-counter probiotics depending on where you're at and what you're wanting to achieve with that. We spoke about fertility as well, which was a really I didn't know the conversation was going to go that way but Jeremy actually does a lot of work working with couples in preconception and then during pregnancy and then the first few years of of infancy as well. And yeah, he just shared some insight and the importance of got Health probiotic you specific probiotic use during that period and just different things that both men and women can do when it comes to fertility and conception. So yeah, a lot of knowledge bombs in this one. Definitely. I wouldn't be listening to this one on one point five speed. There's a lot to take in. But yeah, I'm sure you'll enjoy it as much as I did. Without further Ado enjoy this conversation with Jeremy princi the stick lifestyle cool. All right, Jeremy. Thanks for being here man. All right. Thanks for coming down. Yeah, actually, yeah, and it's been a lot of driving recently, but it's yeah worth the trip for sure. So yeah the kick things off I guess for those that don't know you and your work so I know you're mad and many talents. But yeah just share with the listeners like a little bit about your background and kind of what Are doing in your professional life at the moment. Yeah, so at the moment pretty much a almost pretty much a full-time clinical load. So yeah, I'm a chiropractor and branched off and done a bit more nutritional like chemical work. So studied under acronym so Australian College environmental and nutritional medicine and done a bit of work privately with the microbiologist and kind of delve down just gone head first into the gut microbiome world. And so I've kind of merged I guess the manual RP chiropractic side of things with nutritional biochemical work with Bloods and the stool analysis stuff with the microbiome and kind of just taken my own sort of Spiel on that and working with with what's congruent with My Philosophy. I suppose and created a clinical practice based around that so been in this spot where I am now for coming up to three years, so just start off just me and our receptionist here and humble beginnings humble beginnings exactly had all the space in the clinic here to ourselves and then things just bloomed and and keeping up with the demand was starting to get quite challenging and just brought another people. So got a clinical nutritionist upon therapist another Cairo that's full-time and another car. That's kind of part time. So many part-time. Yeah. She's more of a movement specialist that goes down and then an integrative cheap who does a bit of work out of here as well. Just the one day a week at the moment that it all kind of synergistically works in together. So that's kind of Professionally where I'm at at the moment with things and I spent a deviation from the years before I was more online-based and teaching mainly fermented food workshops. Yeah and sort of and then kind of more part-time clinical practice Yeah Yeah. The last three years is Full Tilt. Yeah private practice. And with time we'll probably transition again out to a bit more of the teaching realm and poor environment. Yeah. Nice. Yeah, when I first came across your work your death we doing I'll sing a lot of workshops and a lot of that so that would have been about yes or three and a half years ago. And so what I yeah, I'd love to hear about what sparked your transition to go and start exploring gut health and and I guess and a really deep level because a lot of people talk about the gut brain link and talk about gut health. Like let's look at your Nutrition a bit, but you've obviously gone and studied extensively into it what actually sparked that was it something personally or You were saying in your patients or a good question and say well there's really soon as I finished uni actually, so that's 10 or so years ago now. Yeah, I've told this story a bit. So if anyone's listening and heard it before them and they fast forward a bit. Yeah that I was soon as I finish my clinic exit exam. I've got quite ill with a systemic bacterial infection. So prior to that I was pretty in pretty good health. Conditioner kind of money, even though the previous time of that before I even went to a GP. Hmm that kind of struck me down pretty quick and all of a sudden and and yeah sort of kind of pretty well bedridden I suppose on and off for a good month. Yeah. Wow and just sort of sequence of synchronous synchronicity. I suppose. I was introduced to a want to pour checks students check holistic lifestyle coaching is also check practitioners as well. So you kind of had the both parts of the Trying to under his belt and I one of my mates introduce me to any said all these guys running a wellness night at his house. You should come along. It's 80 bucks or whatever and you know, he's a wealth of knowledge. It's got really knows his stuff as a yeah, whatever so I didn't went along and we just took one look at this guy and he was just like this picture of Health. Yeah beaming exactly so I was just like whatever he's where he's going to teach us tonight all I'll take it in and take it on board and It was yeah, it was basically Paul checks work. I suppose he was that he was kind of conveying that kind of message which is a bit of a mixture of Whole Foods Weston a price kind of foundation stuff, but a Paleo type spin on it. Yeah, but the one thing I guess from that night that really stuck out to me was what else what sparked my curiosity was the fermented foods. I think it's just the scientist in me. Ye all this chemistry kitchen bench in this Cafe. Yeah. Yeah. Stuff and I was just like this I use picked up at that and I'll yeah, it really resonated with it. So that was a kind of jumping forward a little bit that and then I just sort of immersed myself in that. Hmm. And yes, I was really fascinated with the fermented foods and was just researching it. And then I kind of want to sort of playing around making it myself and went on to PubMed one day and I just typed in fermented foods and health or something like that just say There's actually any research behind staff and Andy and then let us down. There's actually quite a bit and as I huh, all right, I'm not ready for you. Yeah, so I was looking into the the microbiology of the fermentation process is learning how it all works and realize that what people were teaching and what people were doing were very out of alignment with what you know conventional microbiology has established as safe practices to phone. Okay, maybe I should teach this stuff. Yeah, it started teaching fermented food classes the Suppose the more the evidence-based methods ya Keepin it Keepin it to like histamines and the rights kind of bacteria than renting times and conditions because all the recipes on the internet when at that time where I don't even think any of them were what I would consider a safe. Yeah. Well, I'm quite bizarre. Hmm. So I kind of made it made it a bit of a mission to kind of go out there and actually teach the actual proper health and safe recommend. Yeah. Yeah. And did that for quite a while and then write you write a book on fermented foods and never got it published. I tried but a couple of the big Publishers that I went to they sort of they took it and they had a look and change your mind and ended up I'd was pretty busy after the axles or in a clinical position because time kind of went on and yeah, yeah and then the cemented Foods I suppose turned more into gut health in general because the fermented foods is just one small little component. Yeah, and I suppose in hindsight. getting my book published was the lesson I kind of learned there was as I branched off from just fermented foods and research this the whole gut health world and all the other components to I was like, so to realize well actually fermented foods are Nest maybe all that what they're cracked up to be and necessary for people and in fact contraindicated in some instances and I started going down the world at doing stool analysis and looking at people's microbiomes learning more about histamine in tolerances and you know bacterial overgrowth and things like that. And so yeah, I'm kind of in some ways a sort of a bit of a blessing but Annette of really publish a book just on fermented. Yeah. So I've kind of got it sitting there and maybe one day I'll sort of turn it into something more of a curry visitor. Yeah microbiome kind of gut health book or something like that and then yeah, but more of the information that I've acquired with time, so and now as your so as you just kind of set it is kind of Full Tilt with the The clinical side of it. It's it's not sort of guess work. This is like I suppose Cutting Edge using the best clinical microbiome test. Yeah. It's available a lot of research and hours from my ends going into learning and upskilling and yeah and combining that with the actual skin in the game. I supposed that she working with patients because it's one thing to guess, you know, study it and speak to microbiologists and being academic. The and academic exactly but into the day they're just sitting behind the computers looking at the at the shit. Literally. Yeah, someone's got to sit there in front of the patient and yeah information in a clinical setting with yeah symptoms and the person at hand and work out. So what do you do with that? Yeah, and it's been a wild and fascinating journey and yeah been very fortunate to touch many lives. I suppose in quite a I found way for a lot of people. Yeah, and yes quite a humbling quite a humbling experience. I can imagine and so a lot of the people that you end up working with from this standpoint. Is it more complicated chronic health staff or is it any Performance Based stuff back to you? Just as your average person off the street kind of fight like who what's your kind of? Yeah population. Is it working with the only primarily it's it is definitely more complicated case. Yeah, and as the years have gone by it's just getting its getting More complicated. Okay. Yes, but default when you the more you been doing it and reach more of a spy's an expert status in some ways you start to navigate and and attract that yeah I until so which is making my life harder. Yeah, why is he taking on a lot? Not only the complexities of the case, but also the the emotional attachment to the the early years of the that that person sitting in front of is been suffering I suppose. Yeah. Yeah, when you bring your the practitioner that they've come to off the senior 10 20 other people and that they're kind of wits and it's it's hard from as a practitioner perspective to to really not get your feathers wet I suppose yeah take on too much of that emotional though because naturally I'm quite a sensitive person. Yeah it is that does get to me a bit and working in ways to kind of protect my own self here in that that in answering your question is complex cases that I mean touch things. Yeah, and it's not always people just coming in now with you know, I've got constipation. I got diarrhea all the time and you know got bloating and gas and my fart stink. Yeah clearing the house hot tub. Yeah. It's more more complex autoimmune things where yeah, it's a wide array more females for sure. Yeah. Okay tend to be the ones that seek help. But yeah to get the few guys that come in. That their wives are sent to me in all their Piazza and their Lair is kind of reluctant me company and they're some of the best ones to work with to be honest because yeah, you get some of these guys, especially some of the ones that are bit rough around the edges and yeah, they're like, I've got all these all these issues and stuff like that and they've never really done anything about it. And then I feel like I can relate to them pretty well and I think that's what they need. Like, they just need someone who can be relatable and and Communicate with them on at their level as well. So you get these guys and you know, we're on a stool test on them and then we sit down and go through and actually quite fascinated when they can sort of see or this objective data and yeah and someone to put it into some sort of perspective for them that she I found a lot of those guys actually in many ways follow their programs more to the T then some of the females it's an interesting. Ting and she's ketamine is occasionally get a bloke you'll come in and they'll do it for being in there. Yeah same again type of thing. Yeah that that some of these guys are just really surprised me an amazing image, you know that got go at it and they change their life and that ye do a full flip around and and just seeing them from the start you can see and their skins all yeah anemic and you're the black under their eyes and you can just see that there, you know internally this that things aren't struggling I going so well for them. Yeah. And then even sometimes it's the month later into their program with following everything. They just come in and I sort of got yesterday actually and I just happened to pop into the clinic to grab some supplements and look at these faces Jesus. He's made a huge turnaround. He was the one that kind of surprised all of us because one of my like caught one of my other colleagues sent him in to see me as I go seeking you can go see see Jeremy and he can he can sort you out if you want with your gut stuff. And yeah, so yeah, it's the clientele. I guess yeah, and what do you think's behind that resistance? Like I've guys because like you say once there because I kind of get this in my work as well. It's like there's a resistance until a certain point and then it's oh like we are what do you find that Tipping Point in is it the objective data the science like and that side of things or what do you think it is for them? I think so. It's a good question. Probably. Yeah, just I guess investing in it for one because it's not a cheap process. Yeah, I think I told you pay my Consulting fees. Yeah a stool analysis the soil analysis itself is and your between 380 and to sort of 400 bucks. Yeah, which you can't get any meat Medicare rebate. So you're really up for I've already put, you know, throwing a bit of money into it. Then the supposes that investment from that end. Yeah, I think just maybe it's just being in the presence of another guy. Yeah, it's actually willing to listen to them and want to help them and I guess the buy-in for some is the someone probably just take a look at me and they probably all you know, he's a he's a healthy guy the guys around to like what you did to that original. Yeah in some ways probably and I mean, I mean I grew up in this town. So I suppose in some what a bit of a community around here. Yeah, and I take good care of myself and my Benji Jim consistently and have a strong self care practice and I think that with time people have just learnt to know who I am in some ways. Yeah, and some of these guys probably see me as in some ways a bit of a role model. Yeah. Yeah that that seems to know what they're talking about and I want a piece of that. Yeah. I'm going to go to the gym like I get guys wanting to wanted to train and pick my brain. It's the stuff that you know, I got my headphones in game face on and a bit of Me right - yeah, but you still still get handed a little bit that so I think that's maybe a bit of a drive. Yeah that Integrity between what you're saying what your message is and then I guess enough of that Collective Community like reinforcement of that's where you're at. Yeah. Yeah. It's meant the mean men don't really like to get help right? Yeah. It's just for the most people I mean, there's maybe a shift with the things a bit more. So these days but yeah for the most part it's pretty taking those initial steps. From when man is probably quite confronting and huh and sadly with men and young men in particular. I see some quite some serious issues like, you know, especially sexual performance issues and yeah getting you know, 18 19 20 year-olds that can't get an erection. It's like here that's a worry. Yeah, you should be hard on demand at that a yeah, so maybe that's a bit of a Having factor for some into when you start getting to that point when things aren't working so well big enough. Yeah, exactly. Maybe that's where the you know the bite the bullet a little bit Yeah, the ego kind of goes out the door and yeah and you know unveil the true colors. Yeah open up. Yeah. Yep. And so even just using that example, like like sexual function then coming bring it back to gut health like the gut impacts so many things like I've done some Reading myself, but it's a more speaking before there's so many different rabbit holes to go down. And then yeah, it's almost like the rabbit holes are getting bigger. There's seems to be like a common awareness that that got health effects mental health. Well, I feel like it's getting more common anyway, but can you speak into into that like a lot of the people I work with are kind of doing personal development there. They're putting in time effort often resources to improve their state of being and I find a lot of people can miss Mr. Physical pillar a little bit. Can you speak to I guess the link between gut health and mental health a bit. Sure. How long have we got? Yeah, and that's what I mean. That's why I wanted to come and talk to you because I'm like it's so I'll try hit the main the main yeah just for the average and I know you work with complex cases, but for the average person just to almost enough because I find it once people know enough. Prioritize it then some change can start to happen. So she asked to do best. Yeah, let me let me share a few stories. So there's an interesting study that they did where they got to they got a specific type of fruit fly specific strain or whatever. It is a fruit fly and they separated them out into two separate groups. Hmm. They fed one group of the fruit fly. Just a sugar based diet, which is I think it was they use molasses as if their feed and the other The other group they fed them a starch-based diets more of a complex carbohydrate type diet. So did that for a period of time covering the exact details? It's come back a little while now. Yeah, and then they got the two groups and then they put them into one environment together collectively and what they found was there was a strong almost like a hundred percent sexual preference for the ones that were on the same diet sexually went for the same ones in the same diet. So basically all the ones that we read The Molasses space diet would sexually be attracted to each other and have sex and the ones on the starch based diet would as well and then what they did is I took those those those fruit fly and they basically gave them they wiped their gut and so with some sort of antibiotic whatever just to give it a clean slate again put them back together. And then what they found was the mailing preference was not predictable. So it was just a freak out of orgy. So the gut microbiome what they've got that basically concluded from that research was Diet affects gut microbiome. That microphone somehow has some sort of whether it's fair amount of whatever it is. Yeah. Yeah relationship with the with the mental emotional state and and was the driving factor for sexual preference. Yeah. Well, this is quite interesting actually wondering if your partner goes out and has to have antibiotics or something. Is that going to yeah, what sort of wildly, you know personality Cults. It's like the top part of me after chose you as all this stuff that yeah. It's interesting and then some I mean granted it's fruit flies. But yeah, it's interesting. Eating but a lot of the studies are done with mice as well where they've done what they've done a lot of the stud earlier studies were done with rats and mice but they did what's a good one? They took two different strains of mice. So the ba ba LLB mice which is generally more. I think they're more outgoing and exuberance by nature and the NIH Swiss breed of mice which are more anxious and timid by Nature. It's a makeup. Yeah. Basically did a facial transplant from one to the other and they found that they create a complete personality shifts, you know, so those they took on those personality traits from the microbiome of the mice that they received essentially. Wow. And then they're seeing that congruent now across the board with humors all your fecal transplants and starting to see these kinds of things come up. Hmm. So yeah, so that's kind of just a little this little snippet insight into how powerful the microbial. Yeah, but there's research that's been done on certain probiotic strains and using I think I was reading on this morning where there's a study they looked at bipolar disorder and they found that those in the intervention group with a specific probiotic cocktail. So some specific strains and they followed them up at after a certain period of Time Versus those that didn't have the probiotic. There was less readmissions to hospital. Yeah, well group that received a probiotic here. Out there's a really good study that they did. This is quite a small studies as I think this but the sample sizes only about a hundred. Yeah was randomized control trials that had that had like 50 hmm 50 people in the probiotic group and 50 in the placebo group and what it was is they looked at infants that were given a specific probiotics and like missiles from Aces GG for the first six months of life and then they'll track them all the way to age 13. And then they looked at the diagnosis rate that they had that of Asperger's disease and ADHD. So what they found was there's about 17 percent of the group that we're in the placebo groups that didn't receive the probiotic and received like the sugar pill or whatever for the first six months of Life at age thirteen seventy percent of that group were diagnosed with either a th a DHT or Asperger's you don't have a guess at how many in the probate probate what the percentage was in the probiotic group age. Thirteen Thirty forty. None, so none say kids the kids in the group that received lactobacillus rhamnosus JJ for the first six months of Life at age 13. None of those kids that 50/50 or whatever. It was while we're diagnosed with that. We 8 HD or HD urges. Whereas the ones in the placebo group. So they didn't receive the probiotic see the placebo. They had 70% of the that group were diagnosed with one of those conditions. So that's outrageous again. It's a small sample. Yeah. It's not it doesn't have a huge clinical waiting or anything like that. Yeah, it's interesting it just and it's make you think yeah, it makes you think and there's largest studies that have been going on now and then yeah, so I mean other things that trying to keep it fairly simple for like serotonin that 90% of that's produced in the gut microbiome where it shouldn't be dopamine somewhere between probably 50 and 70% is producing the gut goes up the gut brain axis of vagus nerve and all that. I collect collection of neurons to the brain has its effects and so serotonin dopamine. If for those that don't know what are they responsible for? So serotonins more I guess put simply like if your feel-good neurotransmitter. So happy happy hormones type of thing dopamine's more centered around reward Pathways and things like that. So and pleasure seeking and that kind of stuff and then there's a couple other neurotransmitters as Gabba. Yeah. So gamma amino butyric acid, that's an inhibitory. To help sort of comus down so kids generally with ADHD or Autism and things like that tend to have lower levels of Gaba and high levels of glutamate siglemic a to to gab. It's more than your excitatory. Yeah, but again same sort of thing certain microbes produce those those neurotransmitters so dysregulation or dysbiosis in the in the gut is going to interfere with those kinds of important neurotransmitter transmitters for mental emotional health. Yeah. In kids adults that the works. Well, I don't Society thing as anything else that I can kind of rattle off for you or is that enough now? That's solid. Yeah. That's that's that's funny. It's more just like so all the feel-good hormones and all the I guess I guess Drive related. I mean we didn't talk about testosterone but like dopamine and serotonin. Yeah, if you're trying to feel more connected in your relationships or live a happier healthier life and home only that's not taken care of you're going to struggle essentially exactly. Addictions or any addictions really? Yeah, you know part of the the driving force behind that is a Guess That Dope that's dopamine Pathways and rewards by I would system. So people struggling with food addictions and stuff like that and it constantly trying to get that little dopamine here, you know. Yeah, so C at that and get that little surgeon dopamine and this vicious cycle. Yeah. So part of that can be gut microbiome related there could be other mechanisms as well. But yeah, I mean, there's definitely Lee in and around that for sure yeah, something else was in my mind them as you were saying that couldn't have been too important lost it and so so for the average person like is it pretty much the only way and this has been like I guess the million dollar question but like other than going because like you say, it is more of an investment in time money energy to get the stool sample the store analysis and to go through that pathway. If somebody's like the other some might be out of whack with my God or whatever are there some things that you can just do that across the border going to help with everybody without having to go down specific or is it pretty much like as soon as your think that you know, you got might be a source of what's going on just bite the bullet and go down the specific pathway. Yes. There's definitely things for sure and we do in some Is try and talk people out of stool testing. Okay, like yeah and people come in its when we do an initial consultation. It's kind of like well, you know, we can we can you know, you probably need to dial in these other factors. That's because other thing is they Something Magic Bullet. I see ya guys. It is very useful. Yeah. Just trying to work out how articulate this. You still have to have the basic Foundation principles dialed in lies. There's no point doing a stool test and this happens you get the and it's interesting because their gut microbiomes are usually you can kind of guess what's going on in their life. Well, I can guess what's going on in there because I can see in their personality what they're doing and after that they're you know, they're all one thing to the next. Yeah hormone test them. Yes blood tests are doing it makes fancy test afternoon. Yeah, see test and never investing in. Actually doing the work so that Old Chestnut doing the work exactly. So and I think like some of that is actually used gut microbiome related some you see as you know, there's OCD tendencies that all these compulsions and stuff like that, you know, there's associations with things like I think more streptococcus over gross some of these some of these bacteria, so I try and make sure well These days it's more of a selection criteria actually cuz we have more of a wait list now. Anyway, yeah, so taking on clients because it's at that point. So it's yeah, I actually get people to fill in the questionnaire is first and the all my paperwork and even that is a test in itself as to whether I think someone's even would see if it's just going to be a waste of time and comb because here the paperwork's can be quite intensive. There's quite a bit to it. So when I get these responses back that are just these blase answers and it's like yeah, you know what, you know, we're not we're not going to be able to To a six-month Pro. Yeah and make the actual changes that are necessary. Yeah, this is just a sad thing for you. Yeah, I've kind of flirted around your question a bit there. So I think it's important that people have the the foundational principles dialogue and that's you know, your basic dietary stuff. And yeah, so what's what what are you take people through with those foundations? So Whole Foods diet your try and minimize all you know keep you know, the general principle like when you're shopping at grocery stores around Round the perimeter in the aisles and stuff like that. So you can stick to your Fresh Foods and stuff like that. Yeah, when it comes to meets making sure it's you know, grass-fed is a bare minimum and ethically sourced all that kind of stuff or getting preferably and same with produce organic preferential because I mean, it's no point taking all these probiotics if you're you know, taking all these insecticides herbicides pesticides from your produce into your garden just wiping it out. Anyway. Yeah, so so those kinds of basic Water but proper adequate water intake and Quality Water as well. So I have a specific water filter that I recommend with people. We've been Affiliated and inline aligned with them for a while and have a discount that we have for clients and then like exercise and that and that that proper mix of exercise and rest as well. So some people obviously overdo it. Yeah. And that can be a too much of a form of stress if they're already in a stress State. Yeah, because the body is just it's a it's a bunch of you know, biological oscillators. I suppose. I mean you'd understand this as if with the fist with your physio background like the lymphatic system and Sony's that constant pumping mechanism going. So if you're sitting down all day long and everything just becomes stagnant. Yeah acid and you know, your boughs probably going to be more Sluggish and flushing things for anything not flushing your your fecal matter through then that's going to cause a toxic: and reabsorption of lipopolysaccharides and toxic material and fecal matter and so on. Yeah, so yeah, I guess those basic kind of things sleeps a huge one. Yeah that I fucked that up at Uni like and that's what had probably where I got to with the bacterial infection because mmm I was very driven at you know, wanted to Excel and I did and I came out with three or four of the major. Rewards yeah, but I didn't sleep much at all. Like I was trying to sneak as much time today as possible and night so I could study sort of yeah, I was reading books on how to all these guys that were promoting that you don't need all this sleeve. And that kind of thing you can yeah. I just know how to fine-tune nap at this specific time and he can't you see it's bullshit. Yeah, and it's late. Yeah. So making sure people have all that dialed in and kind of as we sort of alluded to a little bit before the pod. Simple talk about the red light therapy instead of all that blue artificial stimulation. And so I have basically client gets like the I guess the list of things and it's quite exhausting and and everything but the information is there for them and even just simple stuff like at home at night pulling your Wi-Fi routers out before you go to bed because that's been EMS being shown to interfere with hormone levels. And this is where it gets hard to appreciate the some people because This is the invisible stuff. Yeah wing with liar - I guess things like invisible but the different spectrums of light, right? Yeah, and then your EMS and stuff like that just can't for the most part see it. We don't appreciate the effects. It has pink. Like I'm sure everyone's felt when they've been in there fine theyíre get hot. Yeah, right. They're actually holding it. Yeah. Imagine what that's doing for a man with his finest pocket makes these nuts like just putting his his ball sack basically. Yeah, and then you look at the rate of fertility just Dropping idly. I used to know the stats on that and it you know, where as people when you when you can pull it off but so I can't I can't share it with out the moments. I can't remember if you knew if I could it would blow your mind. I remember seeing it and it was like a steady decline of like 1.5 percent a year for mmm. It's like 40 consecutive year or something. Yeah, it's crazy and it's that and then a women get all this pressure put on them but like yeah blokes have to show up and take their ownership for this Duty. And and when I do that's another part of the clinical practice that I do like to work with with conception. Yeah, I think so. I try and promote getting we get the family involved male female and we run through certain set of tests that we like to do in terms of floods and that kind of stuff and working preconception Ali and through pregnancy and those first few years of life with the kids because knowing what I know now with the microbiome and that critical importance of the especially those first three years of life. Yeah even really preconception when you look at Yeah, in terms of the microbiome in the shaping of that those first three years of life is so critical for acquiring a robust microbiome that which creates the core of the microbiome that we acquire that we carry through life and that in turn shapes can be a huge. Yeah ocean for your life down the track. So that's some interesting very much in line with that with going down that path more so now yeah when I suppose get my act together grab it and take maybe take a bit of time out of practice and I guess not. Well, I suppose Market it more. Yeah and and set up business procedures around involving that I have no idea. What's going down that line. Yeah. I love it. So ya doing I can imagine be even credibly and and I almost see it in some ways as like medical malpractice not prescribing certain probiotics. I tell women when they're pregnant and the kids in the young because Good examples that the one that I said before leftovers. Yeah and Isis JJ, I mean there's been enough studies out there now to show that mothers would take that in the infancy take that have decreased incidences of things like a topic conditions at x Mama immune that allergies immune system dysregulation, like in my mind. It's like I have a duty of care to yeah just say you got to take this. Yeah. That's yeah powerful life. I see it from the research. Yeah. And it's phenomenal to think about their kind of makes sense as you say, but I hadn't really thought about those early years because my of read a lot and about like the neurological function the importance of those first seven years and what happens there. But yeah, I hadn't thought so much about their gut stuff on that. So yeah, so combining that with you know, the parenting side of the yeah all that obviously. Yeah, like significance 70 years of life and what you subconsciously inherit their yeah rights and The programming. Yeah, that's that's huge to yeah. Yeah, it's not something I suppose. I really that's not my role. It's something that I probably as I get older. I probably will merge down that Martin lame or so and you know expand it more holistically, but for now it kind of teaching what I've kind of gone down. Yeah, maybe your line with some other people too. Yeah, but that's what all this where this stuff all fits in right? Yeah education opening up some perspectives of people and things to read and it is a narrow and research themselves. Yeah, and and because we because cat now we're we're 17 weeks pregnant and so we did and she was on a plant-based diet for quite a while and we sort of opened up to the idea of children last year. She was quite anxious and nothing really happened. And then so we just sort of shelved it and really just went in on our health and just kind of self research stuff. I knew and just having that time for us both to consciously commit to that it made like the biggest difference. And the first time we pretty much tried to conceive in August this year we did. Yeah, and it's like that prep time but to have the guidance like hmm. That's cool. I didn't know you did that like yeah cat cat listens to this vile. Tell her anyway, but yeah, she literally is take the the probiotic. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Yeah, that's and it's a specific. That's the other thing. It's a specific probiotics. That's where this thread gets more confusing and it drives me crazy mad. I guess, you know one question. Yeah. This whole probiotic industry and much like kind of what we did with antibiotics are we you know the thought I was gonna be the answer for curing all these diseases. We ended up over abusing it and creating a massive more of a massive problem. Don't get me wrong. It's you know, they save lives and they did their purpose but they kind of messed around a little bit and yeah early days I think probiotics are kind of had in that path to let people know you meant for this and that and not even knowing what it is and you know, someone says I got to have one that's got all this diversity or All the different strains, you know. Yeah more colony-forming units more the better. It's sadly not that not as simple as that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So speak to speak into that more like a little bit around like is it like you go to a doctor and they'd give you a specific antibiotic based on what was going on the same thing applies to probiotics in terms of depending on what's happening in your gut you need specific. Yeah. That's it. That's a good analogy. Yeah, so it's because there's there's lots of quite well. Well, it's got a lot of different probiotics. So it comes down to more the actual strain and the probiotic where the where the magic is or Indian culture the prescriptive power, I guess so like you know for instance say someone has chronic constipation or something like that. You're going to want to use probiotic strains that have efficacy for improving power Transit time, which there's a few that can do that. There's not a lot but there's the fear the pain study that can do that and then the others flip side of that is some that actually slow down beltran's a tire so If by default you just going to your health food store and just grabbing a probiotic because you know, you're bummed up and got constipation. You just go on by chance really going to get it right or make it worse or or just waste your money do nothing at all together. Yeah, so that's kind of where it's quite powerful and then I guess the devils in the detail a little bit with even within the nomenclature. So for instance, they lactobacillus plantarum 2 9 9 V. So lactobacillus is a Genus Plantera. Is the species 2 9 9 Visa strain that's being asked studies show efficacy for medically diagnosed IBS. Yeah that it's the same name like the cells plant I ERM so same genus and species plantarum. I can't remember what the specific strain is. It's like maybe mf1 line eight or something like that basically sounds pretty much the same thing. Yeah, like different genetic variation. So it's not the to 9V strain which helps IBS. It's the other strain actually has been shown. To make obvious worse. Yeah. Okay so much a it's just important that my my piece of advice to people is don't take probiotics. They go to this just for the sake of it because because someone's going so your health food shop and grab one. So how would they then other than seeing a specialist or somebody in it? Is there ways to more thoroughly research or would you just recommend finding a holistic GP or somebody like yourself or somebody who is well versed in this and chat to them it's worth it. Time that's the most cost effective and ethical way of doing it. Yeah in my mind, it's good to know. I mean, it's been awhile since jumped on the incident had a little look around and maybe there's more people mean because there's not that many people really with this kind of knowledge that actually teaching it's evenly within the you know, the naturopath world that this I'm sure there's plenty of practitioners but not everyone's equipped and up-to-date with all this so so I guess it comes down to getting a reputable practitioner that really is honed in on all this and yeah, that's what I did. This is chrism and I suppose and find out. Yeah, so that's probably the best bet. Yeah and then but I mean if you just wanted to get some some probiotics I suppose into your gut. I mean this thing is food based sources as well like a fermented foods obviously in which case, you know, you might it might not be the perfect thing for you like you might you might already have maybe some over-aggressive lactobacillus not all that common, but it does occur. Yeah, you're going to have these cemented Foods or going to have a probiotic and going to potentially make that worst with the fermented foods, at least you're getting nutrition that goes along with it as well. No, just a random. Guess you're getting your vitamin C your B vitamins. It's predigested already. It's got the Prebiotic fiber. That's a part of it. It's got ya chemical compound. Our crap for instance got chemical compounds in it that are and they've been shown to be anti-carcinogenic. So the indole-3-carbinol and the dim all those Eastern detoxifying compounds. Yeah aren't in raw cabbage. So they have to go through that fermenting process juice those so at least You take your finger foods and you're not doing yourself massive favors from the probiotics. I think that maybe it's not quite doesn't fit your unique microbiome. You actually getting all the other benefits to go. Yeah probiotic. There's nothing else. Yeah, he's all you're taking as a pro bowl. Yeah and wasting your money and we essentially essentially making things worse. Yeah, that's probably, you know, probably get the probiotic companies knocking on my door. Yeah white. That's right. Take me down that yeah, that's just how I see it. Yeah. No that's good to know and so like On that note I guess on this because this wave of got Health fermented food, kombucha seasonal cleansers like and and when I can dive into all of them, but is there anything that you haven't mentioned already that you see that is potentially concerning and on the flip side of that on this wave of things. What are you seeing that excites? You most about the awareness building around these things like ice exciting thing is a those people are doing all this sort of stuff because there's awareness it's being generated and I suppose that Can only be a good thing. Yes, the concerns I have which I shared in another podcast recently was things like the seasonal cleanses and that where people are doing taking these, you know, broad-spectrum herbicide cocktails of yeah, all these antimicrobials and things like cascara that's will flush a boughs but it should never be taken long term. Yeah, deplete mineral, especially potassium and stuff like that, but just take just blindly going in and taking these big cocktails of dutt cleansing detox fiber Blends, and yes and kind of Doing their own Paris because it's natural that can't harm you right supposedly. Yeah, definitely can yeah does and I've been on the receiving end of that which I won't go into too today. But yeah suffice to say that I don't have concerns around that I think you're better off just putting your eggs in and you in your money into just quality good nutrition year round. Yeah, if you want to be curious about your gut microbiome and that just just invest in baby. Doing a proper still analysis that we someone who knows what they're doing and and Beast take the sniper approach as opposed to the shotgun approach. Yeah. Yeah. Okay bit me it bit me on the ass big time when I when I was less educated with all this and took all the you know, the the all-natural cleanse typist and there's plenty of other variations out there now with all the different antimicrobial herbs and then I just cause the two way too much collateral damage and yeah, I'm still to this day. I believe rehabbing that the damn well done from doing a 60-day Like A Parasite cleanse and all the yeah interesting and it's it's funny because on the outside of might look like a cheaper option. Like I can just buy that thing and do it in order it there's a sale. Yeah, but it's almost pretty much guaranteed. Always it in the long run going to cost you more. Yeah, and actually just doing the thing and doing it properly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah great. Well, that's good to know. I want to Circle back. To the comment you made about like the young guys and erectile dysfunction or and bringing the conversation around testosterone. Okay, and just what? Yeah what your experience is with working with guys who do have low testosterone and then the link between because I looked at like the symptoms of low testosterone is pretty much like like all the stuff of mental health and depression. It's like the same list overlap. But yeah and so are a dysfunction as well you throw in the mix. So, yeah. I simply said that hand in hand those to kind of go together when you see low testosterone levels in a youngish guy. It seems to kind of mirror up a bit with we thyroid regulation issues. Like low T3 syndrome or think we're not converting your T4 to T3 properly and so t4z inactive form T 3 is the active form of thyroid which Savvy again it was going to be I guess mainstream medicine. They don't really routinely look for that. Yeah TSH and by the time T So to you Guys that like that things have been brought under the hood for way too long. Then it's very reactive. Yeah, very reactive approach to look at it. So we're fortunate over an intruder GB to work with our we generally get to see those results and catch it early. But well, I mean for instance if you got like T3, I mean some of that conversion for T4 to T3 happens in the gut by the gut microbiome, I think there's about 20% of IT guy. Yeah, so it all kind of going to relate with the gut in terms of hormones from From that perspective. Hmm. It's not the only case but then there's also certain gut microbes that are associated with autoimmune issues and potentially triggering them on Sir trigger them off. So when it going back to the thyroid again, if there's thyroid antibodies and things like that that can there's potentially Scott overlap issue that's going on there. And yeah, so and inflammation is a Big Driver of thyroid dysregulation. Okay and hormone This regulation which again so that some of that comes back to the galley got controls a lot of that the end if you get a lot of pathogenic over gross that will produce inflammation as well. So we'll add fuel to that fire and that kind of interrelated mixture of hormones and immune system and so on. Hmm, and then there's I mean the the guess the elephant in the room is stress, right? Like that's that's the one of the biggest drivers of these issues probably more so than just the gut microbiome because it's bi-directional gut the gut brain access but things aren't right up top and whether that's But can come back too many things but I guess where I see what I intuitively say is people just not living in alignment with their values. Yeah, there's no purpose or just stuck in a rut and relationships that are just toxic and yeah and so on and so forth. This is probably your bread and butter. Yeah, that's a big a big issue. Hmm. If we if I'm going to look at if we're going to pick on the young men I think to try and get back to your question in with load test. Things like testosterone that we young men. Yeah. I think he's having a strong sense of purpose and knowing what you want where you want to go and that kind of thing will address many of those issues. Yeah. Yeah nice fine. And so looking at minimizing stress because I couldn't agree more. It's like there's nothing more stressful than living a life that you know intuitively did whether you're aware of it or not. If you know, it's not off. Some people are better at it than others. I get it they learn that quick. Yeah go to another Zone. And the light bulb goes off and yeah don't ignore the little inner signals and messages and gut feelings. I guess. Yeah that are telling them inside. Yeah, but it's huge. It's you just kind of ignore it. Hmm. Yeah, do you say that with your client base? Obviously, they there would maybe come to you from more the stools had more than physical health staff. But at do you see I live you starting to see a pattern with well, there's a lot of say stressful stuff coming in from relationships in time. Yeah one last week, which they came in wanting a stool analysis and I ended up saying so you $380 because this is not the driving factor. I don't think is coming. It might. Yeah, but we could help you along with that. And you finances were you know, if you were if we did have to consider finances at all, then yeah sure would support everything at once but I think the highest priority for this person this point in time with their resources is what's going on in other areas of their life and I want to ship over here. Yeah, I'm like this and then whatever but there's other factors. Yeah more pressing any key and important for that person. Yeah. Yeah, and I've had a few I mean I've sent In fact, I think I've got someone a patient who have sent over to the Hoffman process at the moment at something. I went did earlier on in the year, which I found very beneficial. Yeah. So yeah just kind of yeah, he's got a this so many different facets. But yeah, I think I guess the every I mean with more as time goes on I'm realizing more and more and tuning in a little bit more so with Where the higher priority yes, and that's where I suppose the intake form doing having a solid intake form kind of qualifies people. It's yeah, what are the high high priority is here? Yeah. So are there things are non stress-related like nutritionally going back to the testosterone are there things because obviously stress is the biggest killer called as it was the biggest killer after all but aside from that the other things nutritionally specific that are are important and you see mist is there any supplementary because I know you're really specific with any sort of supplementation. If you do you describe it your specific like have you noticed anything in that realm that does help or or not as much as the other holistic factors? It's all supportive. Yeah. I mean you can choose you can go on you see I mean the classics are with men or you could take zinc, you know, but I mean, oh, yeah, that's a patient in love again. I think the last week or the week before we're low testosterone levels and Free engine for Anderson index and low T3 again, there's ink levels. Yes, I'll pretty low but the copper levels were really low like even outside the reference range and the throw a plasma the transport protein for copper was was also very low so that person can be very careful with supplementing with zinc because it's an antagonistic to each other to be either supplement with zinc then you're going to displace that copper and even more further exacerbate local Precinct. Copper's important with with neurotransmitter production dopamine and things like that. So I guess it's more longer. I'm going in this game. I guess the more I'm realizing how powerful testing is. Yeah. Well testing don't guessing type of scenario. So yeah, so jinkx kind of generally want to run your with testosterone using one of the ones that is recommended that yeah. I've seen it enough times. Now where people have just just over supplemented with zinc just because of read it on a blog or Yeah, and it's kind of mainstream knowledge that zinc can help with testosterone and so on and they all they've done is messed up their copper levels interesting read another problem. So just yeah, it's hard hard to give out specific supplement wise. I'm yeah, I'm quite picky with ever supplementing without any sort of without testing magnesium. I'm pretty relaxed with yeah. It seems to help quite a lot with most people and you're not really going to run into any dramas with that using the right the right forms of magnesium. Yeah. And I do quick get quite specific user specific magnesium in the morning and one at night. So different forms ones more more energy gives you more energy other ones generally more around relaxation. Okay, anyone it's bound to it's fine. So yeah, it's hard to yeah after to give recommendation that's again just got back. I think the best thing is to focus on diet and cleaning up all those kinds of things. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah squeaky clean die because I'm the 80% before you go looking for the why not? Yeah, exactly. Yeah now that's that's good to know. But there is this there was a there's a probiotic. It's one of the legs illustrator ice trains. I think they did a study on that. I'm pretty sure is in Rat so they look they found that increased testosterone levels. Okay. There's more he's definitely been more research in line with with female hormones than male hormones gut microbiome. Okay heaps on that. Okay, we especially dealing with things like endometriosis, which is yeah Jim disorder. Yeah, barely I suppose probably inflammatory drugs. Running pretty gazing common. Yeah, there's an enzyme in the in the in the liver beta glucuronidase that certain microbes produce and that's involved with how you process these regions and kind of unpack some ID conjugates. And so then that can get high levels of that than the it's D conjugating the Eastern then it's recycling around through the body again and just causing habits and get them issue and dominance type scenario. Yeah. Yeah, he's of your endo and that kind of stuff. So yeah. Yeah, it's more definitely more in line with female hormones than yeah, then the male star. Yeah, do you think that's why you see more female clients or another? I think it's incident in general females. They are the for the most part more proactive. Yeah, and when it comes to their family's health like them either they're the ones that make the health choices in the fan. Yeah the most part. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So I think that's that's actually get something there. Yeah, cool. Ancient was it the Hoffman? Yes. He said you said you were photo client there and you've got bit. I've never heard of that. What's Hoffman process staying after I got Bob Hoffman. He started it quite many years ago and it was initially a six-month program where people literally took six months out of their life and that go into this this process where it was going into like all your old childhood start programming if they're like bringing the traits and all that. Kind of business and and it guess a form of psychotherapy I guess. Yeah, so initially six month program then over the years are kind of people just so time for these days and make excuses whatever they can't take six months out. So they've they condense the same content and same program down and down and down to the point now where it's a week-long process where you're literally just go off the grid got to hand your phone in all that kind of snails. No, With the outside world. Yeah in the relatively small group with you get facilitators and the same content in a week basically is what it was in six months just because a lot more homework now, so I'm like I did it in April this year and I'm still doing you know bits of homework that goes with it. So and they say it takes about two years to fully integrate and wow, put it all into proper practice and stuff like that, but someone refer to it as a lifetime of psychotherapy. In a way. Yeah. Wow, probably that plus more in my opinion, but I still do I found it so you so I still do follow-up consults with one of the facilitators that was there. So yeah, we do routine sort of check ins and I pay her to do some or consultations and keep working with them packing all the stuff that was brought up because it was pretty shaky. Yeah. Yeah, it rocked my world. There's no doubt about that. Yeah had you done much of that kind of work before any sort of psychotherapy? Yeah, so I guess I went into Paul checks work after after that experience those years ago and did his holistic lifestyle coaching program. They wanted to and spent some time with him when he was in Australia, which there's definitely a bit of that that is a bit of confronting stuff that comes up but nothing was definitely a complete Next Level over that I will say I kind of had a lot of resistance going into the Hoffman thing. I've done all this and that yeah, well parents will start. Yeah, Mommy she said Daddy, she's right. I get it. Yeah, but then got a fucking rude shock when I was there. Yeah. Well she come up and and the awareness it was yeah. Yeah wild. Yeah, I recommend it. But in fact I spoke a little bit about that on a podcast and had few people actually quite interested in and asking me questions and stuff like that. Yeah, actually jump on their website and you can do the they do have a free one-hour consultation that you can do cool to get a bit of that. Info on it. And yeah, it's kind of a session I suppose and then from there if it resonates you kind of go from there, but they don't do any marketing. It's interesting that any marketing never heard of it, but it just packs that every time that they run it's almost once a month in Byron Bay and it's all around the world. But in Australia do it in Byron Bay and they get their 20-odd every every time and it's just from people because it's so powerful for people. So I hear word of mouth. Don't you finish out this might what makes good? Yeah Brothers got to do this. These patients got to do this, but which they very cognizant of in making sure that you don't go home and say tell you people your friends and that you've got to go do this, you know, yeah, it's only got to do it the way the anyway hundred percent. So you kind of pick it a little bit more. Yeah drip feed it in. But yeah, yeah, so it's amazing. Like I got the power is in that right like if something so so powerful that they don't have to do any marketing. Really. Yeah, that's all in to express itself speaks for itself. That's in many ways. I suppose not to toot my own horn or anything, but that's kind of how it's Clinic works. Like it's all pretty much internal marketing and barely spend anything on yeah, like ads or anything like that. Yeah you Google chiropractor bumbry. We don't even show up on the oh really in the SEO or anything like that, but we'll probably will change a little bit more more as we expand a bit more with the other cars and that's basically expand exactly run out now. Yeah. Yeah see the Hoffman back on that. That's probably all I really need to to share on that here week-long process. We gonna go in and face the devil I suppose. Yeah. Yeah and what shifts have you noticed in yourself sort of cut that April is anything that like yeah, like share whatever you're open to but what's a good one? I can probably share. Without spoiling it to ya. Well, I guess I'd realized like all this right is just a in many ways of Behavioral cover up for my own insecurities and issues with lack of self-worth and not being lovable at the core and all that kind of stuff. That's just validation right creating something that's successful and begin a name and doing all this research and establishing myself in the community as an expert. I suppose. It's just seeking validation at the core and I suppose My upbringing I guess my parents were together that didn't like didn't have any sort of major abandonment issues or anything like that. But your dad was it was there but wasn't there in many ways like in my early years like he was so busy on his business making you know providing for us and yeah, even though he's Factory was like next door to our house. I didn't I didn't say I saw him hell of a lot right? So I probably in many ways. Really get the love that a little boy probably just strives for yeah. Yeah on the attention and love from their parents, which I had a strong connection with my mom like she was that home answers spend a lot of time with her and she she did the running around and all that kind of stuff and I'd and very much a people-pleasing. I kind of picked up on the fact that you know, that's a trait that I picked up from her and you know, being the communion the people pleaser and that kind of thing and yeah putting others needs before your own and that kind of stuff. Tough. So there's a lot of sort of insights around there. And if my dad does listen to this, I do love you Dad. Yeah, every time I got was just doing what they know what they know at the time and you know, he does he migrated over from Italy. I supposed to just adjust to find it migrated over to do I had nothing so it's just yeah started a business and a very successful business and he did amazing in his own right and he's very humble about his wealth that yeah. Come at a cost. Yes. It's that you know, the paint that he wasn't always there for us for everything but it was there the best it could be. Hmm and Paul check said something interesting which was a quote from things Carl Jung said that all all all humans are tasked with the unfinished business of their parents. Yeah that really resonates with me. So that's it the Hoffman I suppose probably brought that too light for me and it's made me realize like, you know as a A parent what you know what I want to achieve and how I want to show up and be a be a parent and yeah, I can learn from all these experiences. Yeah, that's a that's one snippet of yeah, that's yeah. Thanks to thanks for thanks for sharing that man. I can relate because my dad was a cray fisherman. It's worked really hard and then we actually moved to Perth when I was 7 but he was still fishing in Savannah. So again working hard providing for the family, but just physically not Are lot and it's crazy that even though consciously you can understand and as you grow up you can justify it but there's still that emotional part of you where she needs weren't met and it's like what can I do? I can get straight A's that'll help back and then that extends so yeah. Yeah can definitely relate but I'm definitely going to check out. Yeah the - process because I never heard of it before anything. Yeah, and I heard it from it from my mates. They went and did it and I was having some relationship dramas and stuff like that over time. And those are you got to go to the hospital. It's going to sort your lights out little did. I know that that in the back of their mind site see the going to it's either going to make it so it all gets kind of break it and yeah, I might I'm like is going to sort us out. There's going to be six. Yeah separate ways going to be significant change and that's not necessarily a bad thing. No a lot of the it wasn't I didn't initiate that that yeah, it's more from her part, but it's the right thing. Yeah, like it's just that's how it is. And yeah, yeah, so Works at yeah all comes out in the wash beautiful man. What time just to start wrapping things up? Is there anything that we sort of haven't touched on that that you're really excited about like at the moment like what's yeah, what's exciting for you? You'll be uh know when we did a little tour of the place. There's flirting with expanding and doing different things. Is there anything that you want to speak to in terms of what you're what you're bringing into the world what you're excited about at the moment. Well, you know what to be truthful. I've actually step back over. A fair bit within the practice here and my hours of cut back my have been focusing more on myself. Nice fun, which the Paradox that I suppose is even though I've made I've cut my hours back to some degree. I'm just as busy if not busier like and sought after because I'm you know, the old saying I'm filling up my cut more. So since I got more to give I guess yeah, I've had a lot going on since the Hoffman like it's been a Taniya, yeah, so it's taking its toll and may not have identified that so it's time to put some protective measures up. So I'm excited about I suppose just slowing this down a little bit in here and focusing more on myself. And that's fine. I mean the most days I'm training anywhere between two to four hours a day now, which is what I love. I love rehabbing my body and I'm not rehabbing but improving upon all the Years of the body building that I used to do and dysfunctions that would caught up in that so being able to do back on phase with a taupe or tells training and nice farming that and just getting them all getting the goodness out of that again. Yeah. So yeah more excited about about me. I guess I love it and it's non selfish way. Yeah or and it's like because that to me looks that's longevity because if you're doing it at the expense of self then yeah, it's got a time limit when I come in here and Come in here and getting a little bit frustrated light not not coming in, you know, not not not running through the doors, you know to get in here like I used to yeah, that's not right in my mind. It's incongruencies are so I've identified that to now be a bit more Mindful and and get the get the spark back a bit in myself. And yeah and then have that sort of more Vitality to shine in here a bit more again and pass on that inspiration and share and help people out that way. Yeah, and it's interesting that in the matadors that I can with that suppose getting asked to be on my way more interviews and yeah social media presence and yeah kind of has a flow-on effect and just working on all those little little projects that I had been for a while that have been in the back of the mine, which I haven't been able to really put out there because of giving I suppose I gave a lot in my previous relationship and at the expensive Self and put my own business in terms of like the business he is been flourishing and put a lot of investment in here, but for giving into a relationship all the time and expense that myself kind of meant that I couldn't have the time and resources for the other stuff that I like to do, which is the teaching and the online presence. I just find that my footing a bit more in that again. It's been exciting and we just actually just launched a new website. So we've got more of an online store there. That's Got all the good stuff that we that I like to use like the specific supplements. And that's what I'm Different, you know, Whole Food types of things and got a bit of content that I'll drip feed out and education. Yeah, that'll be up Sue's I do really want to do the like an online course within the pregnancy and preconception that the microbiome stuff specifically so I have done a we did a workshop a while ago, which is very well received. Now, I'd rather just run it again and just film it and then just have that available for paperless. Then they've got all the nine know what it is. It's the specific probiotics are taken and the food is or man, all that kind of stuff. So yeah, that would be for naught that would sell like hotcakes. Yeah. Well like so I'll make it happen at yeah, and there's a human the priorities the getting doing the exercise of it. Yeah. I'm loving the year of Jeremy. Yeah, putting yourself first. I love a man could only yeah. Yeah, just Outsourcing a lot of stuff like a hive. Yeah. Hired someone to do more content creation now and do the writing and that couples. I don't have to invest my time in that that is time-consuming that stuff ahead. He's supposed to think it's kind of I guess you just once you get you just kind of have to you can't I mean it's a bit of a trade of mine, but I see how suppose which is a reflection of some of my gut bacteria live a great set of had in the past, but just having that be now just having the confidence in delegating stuff and not doing everything yourself. It's just I'm just Each year that goes by and kind of loosening the residents rains on that. So now you're just having someone that's writing content. And so yeah, all these bits and pieces. Yeah epic amazing cool and we're can everybody find your on the socials and website drop so you can all put in the show. No sure so the websites holistic like wwo holistic lifestyle i.com and then all the social medias holistic lifestyle last Instagram solicit last I Facebook's holistic lifestyle ER They're the it's pretty much where you'll find me. Yeah on those in through those so the online stores obviously on the holistic lifestyle ER yeah page that is having a little troll through that before. I was just wanting more and more products as we go like I didn't want to put all of it up at once and then end that with heap of orders and then a problem trying to yeah, the place is stuff because we've kind of done the groundwork and kind of figured out bits and pieces how to do it. So now it's just more Let Let it sort of run its course. And Jim date on the van details, but definitely the education stuff will will be the next priority. Yeah, nice one beautiful. I love you work Jeremy. Thanks for taking the time and think so and that is a wrap. Thank you so much for listening. 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Enjoy this insightful conversation that I had with Jeremy Princi, the Holistic Lifestyler. Jeremy is an expert in Health and Wellness has undertaken postgraduate studies in Sports Chiropractic, International Sports Chiropractic, Holistic Lifestyle Coaching (CHEK Institute) & Australian College of Environmental and Nutritional Medicine (ACNEM). We spoke about all things gut health. We explored the link between the gut and mental health, fertility, factors affecting Testosterone production and the impact this can have, living a values aligned life and much much more. If you’re curious or passionate about holistic living, you’ll get a LOT out of this conversation. Key Points:   Jeremy’s background   Interests in gut health   Fermented Foods   The types of Jeremy’s clients    What is it that interests the blokes    The link between gut health and mental health    The foundational principles    Gut and Conception    The dangers of probiotics    Issues with young men relating to gut health    Testosterone deficiency    The Hoffman process    Jeremy’s shifts   Relevant Links and Website: Jeremy Princi www.holisticlifestyler.com Instagram: @holisticlifestyler Get 50% off Jeremy’s Book “Fermented - The Art and Science to Gut Health”: http://www.holisticlifestyler.com/new-products/fermented-the-art-amp-science-to-gut-health USE CODE: VIPTULLY to claim your 50% off Tully O’Connor Website: www.tullyoconnor.co Instagram: @tullyoconnor Men, join us in The Conscious Locker Room Facebook Group https://www.facebook.com/groups/consciouslockerroom/ 