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We'd love to hear from you the mosquitoes. Hello. Hello, this is sound underground. I am Darla Ray and I'm Jesse and here today. We are interviewing same code and we have the members here today. I'll let you introduce yourselves. I'm Drew for Sean and I'm the drummer. I'm Michael guitar and singing. Awesome. Thank you for being here or for letting us come you mean. We are here great. So early existing. You know what so first thing I want to ask. What is sale acorah mean? Yeah. We want to know so quick history. I don't know if you knew us with so we back in the day. We've been playing together since 2012. And before that we being sorry, if we being everybody here, except our old drummer was Keith. Okay, and before Olivia Olivia has been a German out for like a year and a half pushing two years. I think and there's Adam keyboard and Adam on keyboards a while back. Yeah, but before we started the band, so the church that were next to I play I would play bass for the worship team. And before we would go out on stage like we'd be Actually as we do a little prayer before we go out or something like that and we would just Talk Amongst ourselves before we needed to go play and we just started this strange inside joke before we would go out called battle church. And so I can't remember who said it first. It was in the context of some joke and some said battle church and then it just carried on for months and every time before we went out to play. We just like fantasized about like an annual church celebration where all churchgoers come up with their weapons and machine guns and everything and and on the date that they're not expecting the pastor just announced battle church and everybody fights to the death of Jesus and and we didn't have a name. Doing it. So we so that our mom's weren't the only ones that heard the music and then when we decided to make it a thing and we added been and Keith on we needed a name and I was like battle Church. We're balanced. Really? Yeah, that's awesome. It was it was just a joke of a name and but as the years went on like they were a few people who got it, you know, it's like okay, they're just trying to be funny and but then they were enough people who were like, okay, either they like Want to fight the church or they want to like fight for like it was there were enough people who thought it was weird for us to think. Okay. Maybe we should get a new name. Yeah, I'm sure you insert the word battle alone. I mean exactly that we can take that. So right next to church. Yes. Yes. It's like we're not we have some heavy stuff for not like it's not their General sound. Yeah, and at first we wanted some sort of because none of us we didn't like have a great sense of like fashion. So we knew that and so we just dressed up with white shirts black pants and some ties. So we went up playing alternative ending musics with the name of a metal band looking like Jehovah's Witness. But anyway, so we eventually we're going to cut it long term. So we spent months trying to figure out a new name and sayla is an old Hebrew word from the Bible from the book of songs where it's kind of a poetry song book in the Bible and there are at the end of a passage. They'll be a word off to the side that says saila. And I've heard a different a couple of different interpretations as to what it like could translate into English and it's like since the book is musical. There's people think that it could mean a like a musical rest or musical break or lyrical break or something like that or like pause and reflect on what you've just read what was said and it sounds cool and then Korra is a name of like an ancient Jewish family from like this story of from the book of Exodus where like Moses is leading the people out of Egypt and there's like this family of Israelites who don't like Moses and they say we want to we think that your bogus leader and then Moses says if I'm supposed to be the leader then God's just going to open your Earth and kill you all and so I like and in the Bible says that it that's exactly what happened as soon as most it's like eat some with their families and all their Livestock in their tents and everything and it says they killed all the people with the last name Cory, but then later on you see in the Book of Psalms that there are some contributing authors with the last name Cora the sons of Korah so because we were originally going to just go with Salem but there's like a vocal team. It's I'm some vocal band with the name sayla so we had to find something to go with it. And so sale of Korra was the first thing that nobody hated and sounded nice and had some kind of meeting. We don't know exactly like if it has I just probably want meeting then we were aware of and I'm sure we're going to continue defining that meaning is when you guys continue making music together. Yes, I think so. It's kind of exciting. I think I likes that it's it's kind of mysterious that's kind of convoluted and like a lot of lyrics are so it leaves kind of people curious. Yeah. Yeah. I was definitely curious. I thought it was somebody's name and nobody's name. Yeah. In this case it is correct. Yeah. Well, anyways, one of your guys actually there's a vocal group named sale at there's another group called the Sons of Korah and we had somebody actually reach out to us on Facebook and we had twin daughters and they named them say Le and Cora. Oh, yeah, but she just like found us when she was remember that interest. I remember ever told me that she sounds like a mess. Yeah, not because of us or anything, but what would you describe your music? We describe the stylus. Yeah. Yeah that genre. I mean, I just tell people like the heaviest were really heavy alternative rock and at the quietest were really chilling be mmm. That's just what it's uh jazz fusion going in there mistakes. Yeah. It's got that jazz kind of pulls going in the drum set and then with the guitar, it's going like yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I think it's in it's a kind of indie rock. Yeah, when we tried we tried to Define it once and the closest we came was Ben came up with a really good description. Euphonious Lee newfangled indie rock. I love that. I saw I saw that on this line. Oh, that's brilliant. I had to look it up. Description. Yeah, euphonious. Yeah. Oh, what does that mean again? I think it's just this like sounds working together. And so the derivative of like euphemism, you know, there's anything different. No, I think it's just you feel like the opposite of dissonant I think okay. Yeah, like kind of pleasing to the ear. Yeah. Yeah, we are pleasing to the ear. Yeah, I think that's pretty accurate. I really enjoy music that the new singles released pigs or bout. No not battle cake. Is played a show over at the Slippery Pig? What was the single release that you guys just that was stained glass Fame and best part. So it's for total floating floating out on the streaming Universe while streaming universes. Well, we need to get ever see me baby. Put your okay, okay. I think you can't do a higher bitrate on Spotify but then like using data that's kind of hard on it. So yeah, like bacon. Yeah, so what's your writing approach I guess would be a well, I mean it kind of changes from song to song generally the the the beginning of a song usually starts with me in some way like You need depends on the song like currently. We're in the middle of like four songs that were writing right now. We haven't finished the song and years, but there have been a few songs that have taken us years to finish. So yeah usually starts with an idea for me actually one of our singles out girl cake that started with Drew he came up with the it's not like a Verse Chorus thing. It's like a part A Part B or thing. So he had this part A Part B. Thing and then taught it to me and I took it home and found some Melody and I think you found for the last little bit of the chorus. There's the most the ending. Yeah, and then we were like how the heck are we going to put these together? Yeah, it always always comes down to the for eventually. Yeah, which is always been in the force. Yeah. What's really cool? Because then the top this yeah, the songs will kind of take on something else entirely and it's really cool because like especially with girl cake like we couldn't put those two together. Those two parts together until I Keith came in and like really brought in the drums because the parts are so different because the chorus is this the kind of swinging part that goes into like a straighter part. It's three measures of for and then a measure of three and it's just kind of weird. Yeah. So it's like everybody everybody kind of weather. It starts with Drew me or I mean in the future it can start with anybody, you know, and everybody someone will work on it. Someone will take it home and be working on. Thing on their own time and then when they've developed it to the point where they're you know where we're brave enough to take it to everybody else and say oh this could be a thing and if everybody likes it or if most of us like it everybody kind of memorizes something that could be a part and everybody takes their own Parts home and kind of just stews on it for a little bit. And yeah, it's not it's definitely it changes from song to song. We don't have a much of a methodology. We just we know when It's not done. Yeah, we know when his yeah. Yes on this like riff for a second and then like for me will jam on like a so riff for like, I don't know how long like it's too long. So where they're just like whatever they can and I'm just like over there like trying to figure something out and then like I get it and I just keep playing repetitively like there it is. So yeah. How did you become a part of the band so yeah, okay. So my so okay in high school. I was in marching band in the drum line and the percussion Ensemble and so I played percussion for the concerts and then I play tennis or marching snare drum for the marching band. And so I was section leader for two years and the year before I was section leader. So my sophomore year, I became really good friends. Ends with this guy named Matt. And so he then did OC for a running start for two years. So the two years that I was section leader and in charge of everything and then I hadn't talked to him in like forever and then just out of the blue my senior year. He text me on like Facebook. He's like, hey, are you looking for like to be in any new bands or anything? I was like, yeah sure like I love playing music and it's kind of like what I do like everyday kind of thing musics always been like my go-to what I do what I do. To everything I can everything revolves around music for me. And so he's like yeah check them out. Here's our Facebook page. I was like, oh this dope and then that same day someone named Michael love added me on Facebook at Loyola has kind of weird his last name of my friend. Matt gave me your contact info and I was like thing. I think I've met you before and I was like really because I didn't just have a terrible memory. I can remember faces with names at all. He's like, yeah, you work at Zumiez and I was like, yeah, I actually do work at Zumiez a skate shop in the mall and he's like, yeah, I've seen you in there before my friend Drew and I In there, we're looking for hats and then you showed us some cool hats and then I bought one. I was like, oh my gosh, okay action that was like a week ago or something. Wow. And yeah, so then he's like, yeah, so my band is looking for a new Drummer. Would you be interested? I was like, oh hundred percent like music is everything sure. He's like, hey, here's the address here some of our music. You should come to one of our rehearsals. I think it was it on Thursday nights at that time Wednesday nights. Now, it's by Monday it was is still out. Yeah, it was a day in the week. Yeah, I came here and I was like really nervous. I was like is this like a form of things going to be talking a lot played some stuff some drum stuff and Michael's playing on guitar. I think it was just it was just us because yeah, I think it's the first time you're not there. Maybe we're sure they're like us Warren. I was there the first thing came out I feel like Is at least three. Yeah, I thought you'd say we sent you the tracks. Okay recordings and then you get home and learn them and then I'm thinking yeah, you let us know you wanted to play routine mistake. Yeah. Yeah. I was yeah me too or a list of songs and I picked like one or two. I like yeah placing last name of routine mistakes because I got those too because I really like routine mistakes because like jazz was like obsessed with jazz because in the Jazz Band also and so I really like playing chess. I bet that one and then I picked stained glass favor because I really thought like just the beats in the different patterns and like the linear motions and stuff was super fun and interesting and so they're like, oh wow. Okay, one of those like one of the hardest songs out of the bunch. And so then I came I played over there. That's kind of good. Yeah. Our that happened were her souls and then they gave me a CD of At the most influential thing that kind of like, yeah, actually, I know some of these songs only totally sounds like him. So yeah sweet here. We have our original drummer was mid 50s when we started the band and he was like planned since high school since about Olivia's since he was younger than Olivia and amazing amazing drummer. Yeah. And he has for all of our songs and when Matt I asked Matt offhandedly because I didn't think we were going to find anybody in kids have do, you know any drummers and he goes? Oh, I know a high schooler female high schooler drummer and I was like, well, we're we need a drummer. So like I know you'd like give me your contact information. And then yeah, she said I want to play Stained Glass being with you guys. And you were up to the task you have to that's so cool. Yeah, she killed it. And here you are digging even playing shows like Slippery Pig a lot. I see. Yeah, we love this level a certain page. Pub and Silverdale that wasn't a problem which is now can we just Knockin down? Yeah, that was a really rough character. That was our first show. We put it with a guy Dave. Yeah, Dave Morgan, he's Morgan Morris. And yeah and day was really nice. Either way. She's under the Bodhi Tree. Yeah, hold up. You lost side profit and loss. I project. Yeah. Those are those are those are two bands that we played with and we you had there were Fly traps everything really. Yeah, I never got in there like that. You would run into they were like, oh It's crazy to places that music takes out doesn't think I'd be here ever. Outside of battle church, but yeah outside of church. Shoot was a 14. Yeah you refer to we started playing. So we literally we had a band that we played in high school and then that just kind of fell apart and then nobody was really playing a lot of music and I was a bass player for a long time and I only played bass and my dad gave me his acoustic guitar. Oh wow. And so I just figured out three chords and wrote a song so chords and then I yeah exactly exactly. Yeah, which was more than he knew and that's why he gave me the guitar. But and then learned a fourth chord and made a second song one fifth chord third song and at the time I was just playing for my mom and I was like this is gonna do so. I was like, I called my buddy Drew and Adam and we play these those global beam gigs and Darla you were there I was and don't worry. Yeah, and then also Ross was there from time to time Ross Sandoval amazing. Probably deserves. Yeah. Yeah. It's just the group that we actually played with last Saturday Brooke chin, right? Kyle Moore would always just go down there together with Luke. Yeah. Yeah, that's right. And yeah, that's where we met and And I remember we had we took we brought been out to see us play an open mic. I think know it's a green and then what you say the gig spot the spot that's closed down to Gig Harbor The End Zone and all right. Some venues not even here anymore. Yeah, they put on a little device you stock by stock. Yeah, I know you're playing the 8th of February. How do you feel about the scene around here? I don't know if if I like fully grasp the seen enough to feel a certain way about yeah, I think it's I mean, it's a Navy town. It's in it's a Navy town. It's not like this is not where Millennials go is not where people like people leave to go to college. Yeah, and they don't intend to come back a lot of the time, you know, so it's like, you know, mid-40s and under are either like working a nine-to-five and they got a family and kids app, and they Living in kids after not he knew nobody is living in kids help for the music scene necessarily, you know as far as like listeners. Yeah. It's like I want to move to Seattle for the music scene. I mean and so I don't feel like people are at least people who would be going to shows. I don't think they're aware enough of the scene to really support it and and kind of give it legs. I guess. I mean most of the time it's like people going to bars after work. Work and then there's that happens to be a show playing. I mean, yeah, right. Exactly. And I think that's how we've got a lot of people at the Slippery Pig the Slippery Pig is so much foot traffic on a Saturday night because it's downtown Poulsbo and you know, it's just a fun little town. So, you know, if somebody is visiting kids AB, you know, that's that's a little quasi tourist destination so you can get some good foot traffic, but at the Binet Or the Charleston, you know, there's not a lot of extra foot traffic or anything like that people know that you go to Seattle for music, you know or supposedly that's that's the thought I think what what redeems this music Community is that people end up incubating like a lot of artists start in kids app, and then it's kind of hard to take your music out of Kitsap people. Like if you gain a listening audience and kids happened it's a lot to ask them all to take it. Ferry over to Seattle, you know and start helping them or helping you develop a new fan base out of town. So what happens is artists just sit in Kitsap and incubate and get better and better and better and better but people just don't really know. Yeah people aren't aware of it, you know, because they work at the shipyard and when they get off of work they want to go home and go to sleep. Do you think this is a Perpetual situation? Do you think it will change Maybe? I mean I had no idea that was that was that was pretty nice. I mean they get some good stuff but like Pat Metheny, I saw Pat Metheny played the Admiral a couple of years ago. I was like, holy cow. I was working there. Oh, did you say you were you there for? Yeah. It was really cool to see him play. I mean And just complex. I didn't know who he was prior to that. So it was a really nice surprise the year that he did. That was the year. I kind of figured out that I liked his music. I had no, I hadn't heard of him until that year either. You know, I think Drew I'm really close with Drew's dad Drew's. Dad is Jazz head and here okay, he's he would say it just gets stored away in the back. That's an old man. I saw the the posters and all the advertisements and all I saw his hair. Queen Emerald Queen Casino has some nice artists come over and play but I think some of the biggest kids have shows are like Hells Bells and like cover bands and such and I think that's what people kind of expect from the kids have music scene. There's a lot of cover bands and that's what a heavier like Punk and metal pants. Its release there were I mean, I mean definitely will definitely when we were playing there are in our first group. Yeah. It was a bit of a screaming all seen. Yeah and especially in Bremerton, right? Yeah. I like the Charleston is grounds. Yeah punk. Yeah you go on there and it's just a Vibe punk bands. Yeah, I went and saw a show at the manette last year mid. Like I think it was late early fall or something like that. I went and there was an artist from Seattle who had kids a parties had convinced the come and play. Them at the manette and he's been living in kids that for years and didn't or living in Seattle for years. I'm sorry this artist that came over had been in Seattle for years and didn't even know like what kids have was until that show and I think that that's the sense. It's like where do those fairies even go? I think that's what a lot of Seattle think you know, and if they do get on a ferry the odds that they're going to get past Bainbridge even past Winslow is like most time there. Knowingly through Poulsbo. Yeah, or pass they called and I think that that mindset that is kind of rooted in Seattle. It's like I don't even know where those fairies go. I think kids have kind of owns that yeah, and it's not that we necessarily want it but we've sort of like allowed to be put on us, right and I'm wondering how we change that narrative to make it more positive. Like how do we make that and alluring thing that ferry ride more novel to To those places. Yeah, and I guess you know, it's like things like this where we say. Hey kids. That's pretty cool. Come on over. Yeah and probably probably a little more self-respect to yeah as artists and as performers and I don't know maybe doing tickets. Yeah charging at the door not doing everything for free. I mean that's that's a terrible thing to say, but I mean, it's the changes. Yeah Money Changes - yeah For Better or For Worse. I don't think that's necessarily inherently an evil thing, but it can certainly go either direction. I don't think it's necessarily necessarily about the money, but just putting value on and in the things that we invest our time in as artists. Yeah. It's like this is worth something. I don't know what it What It's Worth but you know, we're trying to figure it out. It's worth something because we're putting time into it. Yeah. I just talked to a Visual artist friend of mine and she talked about how difficult it is to charge for her artwork and how she hates spring and some people are yeah for her artwork, you know, you want to they want to give it away for free. Some people don't want to charge what it's worth and other people hate the idea of money being attached to their artwork and it's just like, I mean, I think a lot of people do need to get over that like when we pay we have some really great album artwork that everyone will see once the album is released and we paid the artist not quite what it was worth but more than she had been paid for her art before and she was like, oh my gosh, and it's kind of well, it's like honestly you're worth more than what we're able to pay you. So thank you, you know and I think the general listener knows that if you know, they don't have a problem paying for Quality. Yeah, and there's a lot of quality content. Without a doubt. So you just put the coin in and said that there was an album release. Well, there's no date. Okay, dang it soon enough. I just like got drenched in the pits and I was like, oh my God. Please please you know support us when it comes out. Yeah, I think it's smart that you guys are releasing singles and stuff and having shows attached to the single release. Yeah, I mean it's a lot of work and it's been a long term thing. We got advice from somebody a long time ago Brent Driscoll. Oh, yeah useless or he used to be the sound guy vanderhaeghe and now he's doing amazing things over Seattle. Shout out to Brent and Bryan Battaglia. But Brent told us he was like bands are doing the stupidest thing when they're not releasing singles. And at the time I was like, okay, whatever man and then at the time it was kind of like just released this album because we had it were like, oh, let's just give everybody the album. It was like, well, let's do it. And once you do it, you kind of realize like okay, I guess that does make sense. It's it's it is a smarter way of doing things even though it's not like You know nothing's blowing up or anything like that. It's out there and it is gaining some sort of anticipation from somebody. Even if it's just us. Well, actually a lot of things are contained here at this church are our worship Pastor James Newman. Before we started a band. He started his own studio in his living room in Bremerton Rabbit Hole recording studio. Oh, yeah. Okay, and he sort of gained steam like parallel with us as we were writing better songs and working on our live show. He was getting nicer gear figuring out how to be a better engineer but a producer and everything and we did an EP with him long long time ago, and it was really quick and in my opinion really awful. It was just not it was a good learning experience, but I hate listening to the thing. It's definitely feels rushed. Just we just try to do we do live. You don't want it doesn't work for it doesn't work for us like like for the stuff we're I mean even doing been like it should there should have been more to it and it feels really empty. Yeah, but so he he just kept on building and building until he got into a really nice space and wherever we just had the right songs. We were confident in our performances and feeling like we could do a good job in the studio because it's playing in the studio is not playing on the stage like it's It's so it's such a microscope. And so after making one bad EP we knew that, you know, when you what we needed to do and so he was ready for us. We were ready for him and two and a half years later. We almost have it released and no, I mean it sounds like you put in the exactly and I think that's something that's worth celebrating. Full album release. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we're not really sure we've never released an album before so yeah, you know, we want to we want to see what I mean, you know after everything. I just said about Seattle and its relationship with kids app. We still want to start developing an audience over there and do some significant shows in Seattle and you know gain some anticipation for the record in Kitsap as well as Seattle. So, I mean, we're not going to wait for forever to release it, but we're going to see what kind of damage we can do. Do with these singles before you put a date to the album. So how do you connect yourself with your audience? We're figuring that out. We started we started a mailing list at the show. We got some people to give us their emails. And so it seems like a practical tool and just trying to be more personable and you know, just being willing to shamelessly plug yourself, you know. It's a terrible thing. I mean, it's just kidding, but it's not rush tag Wednesday garlic down. 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Yeah, I think it is 95 and then after that but generation in Olivia's defense, she is dealing with Millennials. Yes. Hello. It's us. I think right now a lot of our audience. A good friend of mine two shows ago another show that we played at the pig he came up to me after the show. He was like dude I met a guy in the beer line and he said that he's been coming over the Slippery Pig every time you play and he's from Seattle why I still have no idea who this man is and Brings his wife and his friend and they all come from jealous. Like say hello to me. I shout out to the guy in his wife and his friend his wife coming to the show. Come say hi at the end. Do you have many people engage you after a performance? I mean Yeah, I feel like especially at the pig quite a bit. Yeah, I mean, I feel like I always meet one or two people that are new. Yeah, let me that we've never met. Yeah same here. I think every time I play their big handful of people come and talk to me because I'm a female drummer. Okay last night the other night when we had the gay get the pig the gig is bound to get the pig. Yeah this guy, Like compliment me or like kind of like back home with me because he was like time he's like, yeah when I saw you get on stage, I didn't really have very high expectations because I don't ever see girl drummers. I was like, okay, he's like, but you were actually really good. I was like, okay. Yeah. It's like the heck out of me. I was like, I mean, I have been playing for like eight years. So it's taking me a lot of practice. It's from like a self-taught myself for probably four years or so electric drum set and then I got a teacher so I could write music before going into high school so I can actually read drum set music and then like quarter note just like that basic stuff quarter notes eighth notes sixteenth notes triplets stuff like that. And so I got lessons for about two years and then I moved over back to Poulsbo went to high school and then my growth was like so Rapid yeah, because I was practicing with a metronome every day for like 2 hours in class and jazz band and then getting like so much live performances being in like the high school band from like jazz concerts to like marching band to just stuff at the school like stuff would volunteer for and stuff like that. It was just like my girls was like boom boom. Boom. Like skip like six years of my life in condensed into like for so, So whenever like people come to that, how old are you? I'm like, I'm 18 now like, oh my gosh, you're 18, like what they always mention like somehow comes into the conversation. They always like I love how you're a girl drummer in your like so good and it sounds like thanks. Yeah. It's like like I get I wish there were more female drummers. Like I remember being a middle school on Instagram like never seeing any female drummers. Yeah. Now you on Instagram Like all the pages. I follow all our like female drummers and they're insanely good like just like yourself like a big like crazy good and they're like some of the most like well-known drummers now, you know, so it's just like just like the Drone culture itself has grown so much in the past like six years. I mean you could think social media for that. Oh, yeah, which I also think that's really helping us get Get more out there as far as like social media, you can put so much of junk on there. But also so many important events, you know, so like we will like make a poster bed and make a poster or something. It will send it to all of us and we're like take a picture of it and then we can all post on our social media. So that's that's usually I do I post on like Instagram Snapchat Facebook by everything and then people just like random little text me like, oh that looks so cool. I'm gonna I'll probably be there and people are haven't talked. When years I supposed to feel if you ban doesn't suck. Yeah, either I'm like, oh my gosh. Hey, I haven't seen you in like four years. How are you doing? You guys are so good. I mean, what is your next show? No, it's just like continue it. Yeah, continually builds like kind of like just the base of the band like would be like slowly getting a bit of a buzz a little bit of yeah a little bit of a buzz. So I think yeah. Yeah, I just yeah I Livia Has Olivia have a A lot to do with that and it was just because we've been playing for five and a half six years and with the original lineup with the same set list for a real just because we were really proud of it and we knew that it was eventually going to be an album. We're just finding it and Keith bowed out amicably and we're just kind of like, oh we were down and and Olivia has been a huge spark in the And the like emotion of the band just the excitement just within the band. It's been a big it's been a big boost really really nice. And yes, she is an absolutely killer drummer. Yeah. I think it's so great that it's like over the course of he said six eight years. Yeah around like there's a couple of year Gap but consecutive like me consecutive playing drums. I would probably say like six years or seven years without any Like big gaps. Okay. It's a good thing that you had various Outlets to like. Oh, yeah showcase like what you can do and like a public setting or private setting and kind of funny because the timeline kind of lines up to when we started the band ya know. How old were you when you started I started when I was 10. What does she sound old revitalized music is so great. It deserves to be heard. Yeah. Thanks. Thank you. A little advice for other bands out there. If you're feeling a little you know under the weather just kick a member out and get it if Kyle, it's Sun so back in high school when we started we actually Played with his son. He was the drummer of the band. Yeah, I drew and I grew up playing with our former drummers son. Who's expecting a baby now. Yeah, it sounded really cool, but we got to play with him and he's really like aggressive loves like Blink-182 at least at the time like loves Blink-182 and stuff and they were aggressively and so I was really cool. We got to play with his dad to yeah and make that connection. Yeah, actually the you got to talk to him like a worship team on time. That's kind of how Got into the band Keith or yeah. How did the Keith Keith was just the best drummer? I knew at the time we'll definitely and Kyle said I could I can't do it anymore. I don't want to be I don't want to be playing in bands and I was like well hand the phone over to your dad. Maybe your dad will play in my bed. It's cool. Looks like you just open to making music you making music happen. Bring the people. Yeah, I like the Did start around some songs that I had been writing on my own but I hate doing things alone. It's I don't like doing it at all. Like I've written, you know, some songs a few songs where it started and ended with me, but none of them are in the sale of Coraline up and because the favorite song the song that I enjoy the most at least the songs that I'm involved with our Say locura songs, like that's why we're making the music that we we want to hear and so but it definitely takes for us to be happy. It takes cooperation and takes takes a village. Yeah, like ideas are thrown around. I always turns into the far people chant meow throwing out ideas getting rid of ones and stuff. Yeah. Everybody's had to swallow their pride because that's the thing is I like Everybody's got ideas and it's happened a lot of times where it's like you have you have something in your like this is the 101 no need to be the one. Yeah, it doesn't fit at all. So you try and like change it. Just well heck's yeah because it's like yeah, like I'll bring it in and and this band is really we've gotten to a point. We're really honest with each other and I'm okay guys. Check it out. Okay. Here's the core. Here is the progression check out this crazy time signature and he's like, yeah, it doesn't sound good. Yeah. Yeah, and that's been something that I've been redefining in my mind what like how to apply the word good to music and I think that a lot of people probably most people confuse the term good with marketable tote Ally and I think that that's that kills a lot of music that kills a lot of good music and I feel that maybe some of the most marketable musician ins are willing to forego making good music and and the most honest and good musicians. Don't want to stoop to marketability, you know, and then it creates this this I don't know like it's like a gap or like that's like that's not just because it's not marketable doesn't mean it's not good. Definitely. Yeah, I mean if you're the happiest musician in the room, but you're also the least talented you're probably still the best. You're probably still the best musician room. If you're enjoying yourself more than the more talented individuals damn perspective is everything. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I think a lot of us. Put ourselves sit down, you know just very talented people. There's a reason I could phone if you're just more episode but we put ourselves down writing music. It's like it's not that good or it's are you having fun though, you know, are you doing it and allow yourself to grow and to eventually be as good as you desire to be right, right. The best music I've heard is also the most Vernon whole and that can be really hard to because you'll have people who write really just like like like this could apply to anything and then there's the songs that are like this directly applies to me as those are like only the hardest to do. Well, you know, it would be really fun because I think so often and in our culture right now music is very fashionable and non-functional I mean it whereas Think about how music was used before it became before you could make money off of it within an industry. It was for your culture. It was for it was for your family was for your people, you know, when like it's like somebody needed to know how to play piano so that they could lead the family at Christmas time, you know, like that's functional like that's that's building relationships. And that's that's making your environment better with music, you know, and and making money with music. Eric you could say that that's making your environment better, but you could also say the other thing you can also go the other direction with that and I think that functionality and music has become very limited in our culture and it's mostly fashionable not not primarily functional anymore, which is the same about ours, which is the same of our our music to to a degree. It's like we did we want it to be functional but we need to find a way to do that because it's like, you know a lot of my favorite bands. I guess they're music functioned for me in the sense that it inspired my taste. So maybe I shouldn't make so many blankets. I mean there's bands like The Mars Volta where it's like gibberish. Yeah clearly but like the music is so intricate and interesting you just really like in biggest thing to their Mars Volta Mars Volta. I mean, what is Josh Homme you talk about his music? I'm really a yeah. It's stylistic. I think he does make some statements. I mean, it's very convoluted in some some of his writing or symbolic and the listeners are left with their imagination to to come up to conclude some kind of definition or the path that is nicotine by Vicodin. Marijuana is probably more function. Different people have different tastes in music. Thank you so much. Thanks. Like you wouldn't expect it. So like me as a drummer. What kind of music do you think? I'd plate like obsessed with them like seriously. What kind of music do you think? I'd love to listen to you said that you liked Jazz. So I'm going with that page as we think as a drummer as a drummer. Oh as a drummer though. Okay, that's another cool. Yeah, the interview has switched the tables raised her up. Well, I mean, I guess we'll just turn that back to you. Like do you listen to modern music or you like like I tried everything every foot? What what do you think like, my go-to is just like take a wild guess honestly. I kind of feel like EDM might be some I'm interested in this answer as well somewhat of the same realm as far as like Beats and so I was looking at your at like the at the page and looking at your the and I didn't recognize. I don't think I recognize one name on it. So I had to look up a few of the artists and I looked up. Oh John billion and I yeah, I really like I like I like that. Yeah. So like a lot of people think I'll listen like rock stuff those know the any conversation someone walk up to like, oh my gosh. You're a great drummer. Do you listen to a DC. I'm like actually no, I literally only like my go-to music is someone being so vulnerable on guitar like it's just them in the guitar. Well, my go-to just like plain simple. I just you like darling. Yeah. So like we looked at yourself. The conversation you'll never guess what? I'm Into You So software is always so Jonas songs that she's been working on in her own time. Yeah, all the parts are. Yes. I can also record my drum track and record vocals even though I'm really not that great of a singer but I do it. Anyways, thank you because I write songs and I want to like put them all together. So I really love just like putting lyrics to instruments but a lot of the times my stuff doesn't actually have a drum track in it Angel. No, I'm a drummer. Yeah cool. So I'll play guitar and then I'll play like a play in a base. Thing and then I'll play piano and I'll just sing or another song. I recently finished. I played piano and I sang that was it nothing else. And so it's just like a lot of people don't expect like a drummer to not listen to anything without drums. Like they just expected a list of something the drums I never do so, it's like no that's your identity. Yeah a drummer. I know. To this bed. They're called Red Hot Chili Peppers. And I'm like I have heard of them. Yes, but I'm not like obsessed with them. They have an amazing drummer. But you know, I listen to like stuff. It's like a lot of either like John Belling. He's like kind of he's just own producer. He writes his own music has his own producing label. He's like I said rights, it produces it performs it and just ever he does it all himself. He plays the drum. Jackson he sings his stuff. He mixes his stuff feel like he just does everything on his own. So it's just something that I'm always in all with because he's my number one favorite artist because of like how versatile he can be things like he can play the drums as good as he can sing like, yeah not as good as he play guitar like it's just like he can do everything and I'm like to do that. But yeah, so it's just like Fun fact, I don't listen to music with drums are totally random know how I got here. Oh, yeah. So once your album release Underground sound of us over ground music is really sad though. Because like I said, it's just full memorable music that I write with piano and my voice or steak said songs, you know like that. One of the songs. Actually I used the guitars body as my percussion instrument. So I played it like with my hands and then I would scratch on the strings like a shaker. I like that one. You said you have that recorded. Yeah, it's on Soundcloud people are going to hear it now. We just redefined what good means anyways, yeah, I actually I was so I was in recording arts in High School. It was like you write your own stuff recorded whatever makes it and there's a project you had to do where you had to create your own EP or your own album. So yeah, I have an album cover yet. I have pictures of you doing it yet. I have like whatever whatever so I got this sign off Amazon where you like put the letters in it, you know, and I was like, what what should I do in about like What is like my main theme about my songs and I was like, oh broken and free is kind of dope because it's like everybody's broken but you can still be yourself. You know, it's like broken every I was like, oh cool. And so I put it on like this sign in it like wrote it out and it lit up and I was like, where should I take this because I'm going to unlike a road but like roads are busy with cars. Like I'll go to Walmart and so much Walmart put in a parking space. It wasn't raining, but I wanted to look like rain Sun just like poured water on it nice and I went and bought like a A rose and I laid it out front in the whole pictures in black and white except for the red part of the rows. You can see the water drops on it was actually really cool. So I have that is like my cover photo because it's super dope on Soundcloud. Yes. We are really bugging you. So I like the first time I heard you guys it was when doing Darla was playing a Slippery Pig. I was blown away. That was so cool. I don't know idea. Wow, that was yeah, I was very impressed. And you know, I'd never heard of you. I mean until you said hey, they're playing to what why should people come listen to you because I know why I like I want to go. I want to go listen to you. Yeah. Well, what's your selling point? Why are we marketable after pose? Part of the identity of the band is not necessarily. I mean being satisfied with what we've done to a degree, but only let's see. Let's back up. Oh man. This is that she's that Shameless plug thing. We were talking about that. We all have to work on. Why should they come see us? I mean because we're awesome. We worked with worse worked really hard for a long time and it's the product of good relationships. I think more so than anything. I think the thing that that I'm personally most Proud of in this band is that I've developed a better relationship with any with everybody and a better relationship with with music and none of us are holding on to say locura more tightly than we're holding on to each other. And so there's a real and hopefully it comes out in the performance where you can recognize that that we we genuinely love each other more than what we're doing and what we're doing is The byproduct of good relationships and kind of you know, it's more like a family relationship and what you're hearing is a byproduct of everybody being willing to say maybe what I thought was awesome is less awesome than I thought and maybe what you think is good is is what we need to be doing and everybody's had to swallow that pill and say I love you more than I love this band. I love you more than I want. To accomplish something for myself, you know, so hopefully a sense of selflessness that leads to Quality Music. Yeah, like when we purchase these songs were we want to blow your face off we do our best to serve the songs rather than you know, let's have a huge solo here because I want to show off, you know. right, and so, you know the writing to and swallow, you know swelling Pride with So, you know putting parts to rest and bringing other parts in our better so and that's that's been the product of time and just doing our best to find humble ourselves again when we're like but this part and right, right no one's trying to be the center of gravity and the band. We're trying to allow the center of gravity beat to be the music. I can see that without a doubt like I've performed at the guys twice already once at the minute. The Slippery Pig and just seeing your guys's chemistry outside of the music when you guys are on stage like it's there and you don't see that a lot with other bands people are just like there's definitely a front manner. There's definitely like, you know, just like somebody else just leading on and like there's one person that's really pissed off at the other person and they can't say anything because they're playing but I see just such a just a flow State just something so connective I rather than like exclusive and that's I don't think that's That's so say locura pound say I think some of the the one of the biggest contributors to that is like I said our relationships but more specifically like Ben is profoundly intelligent and usually knows when something sucks right away. Like he's he I'm not as confident in saying like yeah, I like that or if I don't like it. I'm not as sure why I don't like it. We're has been kind of To the core something really quick, but he's also profoundly humbled in the sense that he'll let me flounder as long as I need to to figure it out on my own and and and my relationship with Drew has been like when we met I was definitely like the age Gap was more significant when we were younger. And so I was really saw my oh, yeah, he's 30 30. I am turned. Y7 in March. Three year Gap is huge in high school. So I drew was helping me. But Drew has always been a better musician rookies always had a better ear than me and I took early on in the band. I took a lot of credit for whatever we did do and Drew swallowed that for a long time and but would every now and then suddenly be like sort of a team sport. And everything and I'll be like yeah, but I don't think it is. I think you're just helping me out and it wasn't quite that that it was the core of the issue that that's what it was. I had a lot of Pride T IC. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and so but you know, it took over the course of several several years getting to a point where I realized that I did not write this. Song by myself and I don't before them performed by myself pretty much useless by myself. You're not your strength and cooperating and putting something together and then you get These different perspectives and you're able to make some I think you may be able to make something better. And if you were if you just did it by yourself. Yeah, you get those different years that you kind of like, it's not just white type of music you listen to you because you can you can write songs, you know, and another people like wow, that's really good. But when you write like a song with like four people, it's coming from all four of those people's like likings of different types of musics. Yeah, so kind of brings in and ties in like all the different genres, but then it just flows totally way where it's like good listening. I get sounds good to listen to and like to watch like people perform it so it's like kind of asking say why people should come to our shows or like listen to our music because it's like good music to listen to like your ears will like it. Yeah. It's like brain food. Yeah. I was like, it's like it's like it's not like stuff. That's just like going like well, that's cool. Like well, it's just like wow. Wow the lyrics it's like Michael and Drew like rose. I'm like really in depth later. Michael has written off of all the lyrics that have come out of these songs had been Michael. So Michael wrote some really in-depth lyrics were just like if you listen to the lyrics, she's like you don't expect some of the things that are in there you go. Wow, that's like so cool. How we like changed. Like how it means with the different instrumentals brought into the actual song. Yeah. It's pretty crazy. How much like like sound creates such a different cushion for words, you know. Yeah, that's what it says and also to like just seeing you guys just kind of extrapolate from one another's ideas as opposed to just picking your own brain. It's so it's so cool. It's like er is banned Dynamic. I'm so excited that you guys reached out what was being your podcast. Yeah, it's a must for me. It was a mustache this last show. I mean as far as talking all of these songs and Olivia didn't have a hand in writing any of these songs, but this last show people came up to us and started saying oh I recognize this Rhythm having influence in this other thing and I was like, well that's new to do that. I was like, I don't think it was like actually I think I heard a lot of rhythms at this last show on these songs that I'd never heard before and so we have started right Ting with Olivia and yeah, that was one of the things we were one of the big things we were a little worried about when we were looking for a new Drummer was like, okay, it'll be one thing to find somebody who has the chops to play the parts, but we'll be able to find somebody that we think we can write with and and can cooperate within the unit and we were not expecting a 17 year old girl to come in and work with three fully grown bearded men. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So 19. What's that? I am 16 going on 17 their Sound of Music. I still haven't seen we're going to watch that. Oh, I was 18 in 2011. Okay. So 2011 to about like 2013-2014 is somewhere around there. Yeah, I came in from I was only there for like a year from 2014 to 2015. Yeah, you know which which high school do you come from Central kits at Central kids you graduated with my brother. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, you did wait Skylar, but with Skylar nice. Yeah. Nice. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Crazy guitar, I mean just everything a lot but then the harmonies and yeah of those harmonies on the Fly. Nobody asked him to start no one thought we needed harmonies. I had zero appreciation for harmonies. Mmm. I just didn't care about him. I didn't I didn't even like you asked me. What a Harmony was. I probably wouldn't even know what to tell you formula and then Drew just like slowly over time develop Harmony after Harmony or find him and we find him and then before you know it somebody walks up to me and says I love Love your harmonies, and I was like, I didn't write a Harmony. I don't know and it's become a huge thing. And I always hear it at our shows now. It's like oh, I love your harmonies. Yeah, I think the placement to is really really tasteful. I like it a lot. This Collective man sale a quorum my dad Mmm Yeah random. I just got into contact with Andrew Mead. Really? How is he doing? I have no idea but it works it perfectly right? Yeah. Yeah crazy lad. Hey man. Hey man, she's a great musician to he's got a great ones. Yeah. Yeah, we know that you guys have released a couple of singles. We talked about that a couple of times. Would you guys be interested in playing a song Yes, we would live. I've yeah here at the Baptist Church North kids have kids at Baptist Church portable portable. So will seamlessly All right. Now welcoming back sale acorah and myself Darla Ray and Jesse here what's going on? They are going to be playing an original song called. formula slow feelings come feelings go and die or to know when the tide touches your feet. Thank you so much, Santa Clara.
Selah Korah is an incredible band self described as "euphoniously newfangled". They are based out of Poulsbo, Washington. They've released several singles and are looking to release a full album in the near future. Selah Korah consists of Michael Love, Drew Rochon, Ben Thomas and Olivia Holmberg. They tell the story of their origin and how they've come to be what they are today. Olivia gives us the perspective of a talented young female drummer in a male dominated industry, braving her passions to inspire and revive the efforts of fellow musicians. Like what you hear? #selahkorah # scene #macklemore #patmethany #admiraltheatre #incubate #kitsap #shipyard #bangor #jazz #femaledrummers #poulsbo #emeraldqueencasino #hellsbells #coverbands #charleston #thechuck #church #battlechurch #seattle #ferry #brentdriscoll #album #gamers #rosssandoval #brookchin #location #jamesnewman #rabbitholerecordingstudio #genuine #marketable #good #frenchtomahawk #northkitsapbaptistchurch  ---   This episode is sponsored by  · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. 