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That's anchor dot f m / start to join me in the diverse community of podcasters already using anchor one last time. That's anchor dot f m / start. I can't wait to hear your podcast. Hey guys, I'm your host Adam McCabe and welcome to the gay footballers podcast for my first time listeners. Thank you so much for coming out and giving this podcast to try. I really hope you enjoy for my returning listeners. Thank you so much for your dedicated support. I'm sorry. It's been a while since I released an episode, but I really think you'll enjoy today's episode for today's episode. I wanted to try something a little different and talk about something that interests me as I gave footballer. Well, I was out in La this past August. I had the chance to meet and speak with Kyle Krieger. Now some of you may know Kyle from his online or social presence. He's a really great photographer and videographer and he's got a pretty big following on social media. He also used to do videos of Men's Grooming and really became popular in that sense online what made me interested in interviewing Kyle was the fact that he is related to US Women's National team player. Ali Krieger now Ali is a pretty well-known athlete and player within the US Women's National Team. She's won countless World Cups. She's a gold medalist and she's got a pretty big following. So after this past Women's World Cup with Ali joining the team very late on in the process it made for a big story. And what was interesting to me was to follow the Journey of Kyle her brother supporting a lie and just seeing their relationship. Kinship online throughout the world cup. I thought it'd be a really interesting story just to talk to Kyle about his relationship with his sister and just to learn more about him as an individual behind the online presence to tie it all together. We have two people alley and Kyle who are both from the lgbtq community who have a love and passion for soccer. And this Bond soccer has been able to create a really strong and passionate relationship between the two this was a fantastic interview and Kyle was just a really great. Down to earth person now fair warning you may hear a bit of snoring or just a little bit of net background noise throughout the podcast. Kyle had just started fostering his new dog Angus and he was pretty tired through the podcast. So he slept through it and you may hear some snow rain, but for me that makes it really authentic. It's a part of Kyle that will learn about his love for dogs, and I thought I'd keep it in the podcast again just to make it authentic. So fair warning for fair warning. It's not an audio miscue. It's something I've left in the podcast that for me makes it a little bit special and memorable without further Ado. I'd like to introduce to you guys Kyle Krieger. Enjoy. Hey guys. So today I'm here with Kyle Krieger Kyle. Thank you so much for joining me today. Yeah, of course the thank you so much for having me. So for the listeners, they know I kind of like to get to know the person I'm interviewing first learn about their life and we're going to start with kind of how you got involved with soccer and how that's been a part of your life from the beginning both. My parents are PE teachers and my dad played professionally. And was a coach growing up. So I feel like Athletics is always sort of like in my life no matter what and my sister and I both started my sister played like a bunch of sports growing up. She played like basketball volleyball soccer, but from like the vary from very early on it was like tee ball soccer. Mostly though. You know what I feel like when you grow up as a soccer family like every vacation sort of every weekend every night after school. I mean everything is Dedicated to like playing especially when my dad was coaching like my team Ali's team and then he had like an older women's team. And he was also a we were also like my dad also was like helping at the club the local Club Prince William County Soccer. He would he was a coach there and then later on went to like help them coaching and stuff. Yeah. I feel like it was always in like just ingrained in my family to be involved and so my we always played and it kind of just engulfed like everything that Dad pretty much besides education. So I know you live in West Hollywood now and you play with or played for we her soccer club. Yeah. No, I played I played here in weho. Well, I guess after college I was looking for something to like I had like taking a couple years off just because I tore my meniscus in college and so I am stumped playing after that and I didn't play for a while and then I got to us Hollywood and in New York. I put a little bit too but it was Hollywood I found this. Team that one of my really good friends into our was playing on and I was like, can I just come out and he like yeah, they send me up for tryouts and there's like this trend this spring and I went and honestly like it put not plane and sub for so long and not like stretching properly. Like I was using muscles that you probably just don't use and like the regular gym or CrossFit which is basically my workout and so after the first day I'm I like drawing was so tight. I couldn't even put on underwear. Morning, like it was so bad. And I remember being so like I think I just pulled it basically and yeah, I was sore for I feel like I wasn't at a hundred percent for the rest of the tryout, you know as the day one, but it ended up making it and we had a really fun season and then halfway through the season. I tore my ACL which was just like kind of like a slab of a kind of felt like you're just really too old to be doing this and I thought like I felt fit. You know like I crossed it every day and I where I work out at the gym every day, I grew up playing my whole life. Like I was like, I'm gonna be fine and my sister's fiance actually tore her ACL three times and I was always sort of like thank God. I've never tore my ACL, you know, but in a seven aside game just on like a silly tackle. Like I just heard that pop that you hear and I was like, you know, like I just knew murder so you may or may not know I in April tore my ACL So we're you Taco did you tackle because I for me mine was not was not movement-based. So someone came in and tackled me and actually we didn't know it was torn because it didn't blow up. I didn't hear a pop and then fortunately the Beloved MRI. Yeah the worst news of the day, but do you remember was someone come through you or did you tackle and it was I know I remember vividly it was like yeah Defender had the ball and I was kind of sort of like going into tackle and it just was like a weird. There was another one of my players coming from a different direction to we all sort of met at the ball at the same time. And I feel like my foot just dragged with the ball like a little bit in a weird Direction and and I just heard it pop and I continue to try to play and I just like the ref was like you can't even run because we were down a player so because there was like no one there and I was like, well, we're at five players we're going to lose and we were up and it was bad. It was messy. And yeah, so I just knew right away, but it was definitely like a I was going and we were also Going in for the tackle, but I was coming in a little late just because the defender already had the ball, but yeah, it's sort of an Indescribable feeling you sort of notice right away. You're like wow and my sister had the same thing happen when she tore her ACL she someone like what happened to you someone came into her tackle her and yeah, and she was out for a year. So any advice for me, I'm three months in the journey. So I'm kind of in that strengthening phase any advice because I know we're kind of Of all in this like Brotherhood, we don't want to be in. Yeah this kind of oh, I know that feeling. I know that Journey any any advice I guess around 3 months. I started like I was back in the gym a little bit and I was doing you know anything to sort of yeah strengthen was good. I was going to rehab like twice a week three times a week or something which was worth the money and my insurance was helping with that too. So I was grateful that I had that luxury and privilege. Yeah, that was great and it kind of feels like the The strengthening and like the rehab doesn't really do anything but I feel like it really cuz I'm just like is this really helping, you know, it's kind of just like silly things like, you know, just like lightweight and you're like using bungee cords and like telling you're not even sweating I'm like this is kind of feels pointless, but I think it really did help with my mobility and I'm obviously not a professional so I have no idea. So I was just listening to then and there were recommended to me by the national team. And so it was great. I saw you I recommend following through with that. Even when it feels like you're feeling good again, here's to continue and follow through and then also I was doing a lot of like up-and-down movements and the gym so like squats and stuff stuff. That was just that felt very safe like not cutting side to side but it made me feel like I was getting stronger again because lifting heavy weight, even though my knee was like really sensitive so that helps a lot. So now as you kind of spoke about you found this home or this new passion within CrossFit, so can you kind of talk About finding CrossFit. I'm one. I'm not very good at lifting weight overhead. So I kind of shied away from Crossfit. There are some aspects of CrossFit. I love obviously making credit eveni thing lower as a soccer players are pretty good at lower extremities, but talk about finding CrossFit and how that's kind of compassion interest now, I do love it. It it makes me feel like an athlete again. It makes me I mean not to take anything away from cross the but like it's not the same as being out in a field. But it's sort of ticks certain boxes that you feel when you're in like offseason training or just the idea of like it can be competitive and comparative or it cannot be like sometimes I put up my I put my score pedalboard. It's just like a smiley face because like I just don't really feel like competing sometimes but every now and then when there's like a few streets in the room that I like want to beat. I will definitely add my score to the board just so they know but you know, it is really fun in that way does it I'm really passionate about it is really fun to learn how to To lift in like an Olympic lifting sort of way because I never did that really growing up. I was always sort of weak a little bit scrawny and like click on the field but not really very big or like really strong. I guess maybe on my lower half my upper body was always kind of like just like leaner and Crossfit helped me develop to learn how to like lift properly and it also has that competitive aspect and then also has very much of like a there's like a circuit training vibe there, too. Right, so like usually starts with a warm-up and then a strengthening piece and then there's like a circuit sort of high-speed interval, you know something where you're like, yeah, you're like sweating. You're like sweating hard. Yeah conditioning basically and so it yeah, it really gets me and it's like an hour. It feels great communities great. You kind of feels like a team everybody's very supportive and and it's really challenging, you know, so I like I don't I sit here now and I am so sore like my we did front squats yesterday. And I like failed a few times. I was like kind of pushing myself and I could not get out of bed today. You know, I mean, like I just missed that feeling of like being so sore because what I'm at the regular gym, I like them on my phone. I'm sitting on the bench. I'm bored. I'm like staring at boys. I'm not paying attention to my workout not really sweating but I CrossFit my phone is down and like I'm focused and I like want to do a good job. And so I really like that about it. I try to tell people this like I need someone to yell at me. And that's why I was really really I was really coachable when I coach told me to do something. I did it and that kind of translate to this environment. I need someone to say you have to do this at this way and I will go do it and that's just how I live. I think you're the athlete in the soccer player and me we're going to continue this like Fitness roll. I saw this past year summer, I believe or earlier this year you were doing the AIDS lifecycle? Oh, yeah. I would love to talk about kind of what that's about and that experience. I see this like sweet bike over in the corner that I got. I'm sure is like super lightweight and yeah, yeah talk about that experience because that whole journey knows amazing so is great. This here is my third year doing it. I just am a firm believer of like giving away. What was freely given to me and I feel like I have the privilege of just being treated so well in the community coming out and I feel like a lot of the Gay men who died in the 80s were on the front lines or they would have been during our fight for equality. And so it's just a nice nod for me to give back to them and to also people who currently living with HIV and it just makes me feel good to be surrounded with them and educate myself and learn how to fight stigma and remove it from society so that people can be treated just in a more human way and just because they have a virus doesn't mean that They should be treated any different. So it's sort of like one way to get involved in and also encompasses like other things that I love like Fitness and the community is just so loving the first time I did it. I was really scared. It was really hard but it was fun. I was sort of I'm sort of isolated and introverted in a way so I don't not like great at talking to people when it comes to like public and public outings and social anxiety. However, this is such a love Bubble that I really pulled me out of All that and I felt really safe and it was great the second time. I did it. I did it with a group of guys which was really fun. And this third time I did it with my best friends who is Olympic skier. Wanted to get a team together and he just asked me to join and I was a can of course, so I kind of felt like a veteran or Gene because not many other people in the team had done it. So I was sort of helping them figure out what it was going to be like and it was just honestly is my favorite year this year doing and we had so much fun and we raised so much money Gus raised. Like over to I mean, he like said the record you look over 250,000. I don't even know like a lot. Yeah, and I raised maybe like 55 which was the most that I raised and the rest of my team. I mean it was insane. We raised over 300,000. There's like ten people in our team. So it was I was really really happy and it's the heart. It's like one of the hardest things that I've ever done when it comes to and it's not even hard fit. Okay Lana like it's hard physically. Yes, your body is were I my body held a really great and I feel like I didn't train at all, but I trained in obviously in I said every day but I never like really got on a bike before I went because I just it's not like I don't love riding a bike. Yeah, I mean like I'm not like going to sit around and and you know go on I've ordered downtown one time which is like five miles and I was like, okay, I'm good dear. Like I don't need to like, I just want to get it done, you know, because the enjoyable part for me is not the actual riding. It's like everything else right? It's like all this rest stops and like hanging out with the guys in the girl. I mean half the ride is Street pretty much. It's but like the breakfast and camping and you know, it's just so much there's so much to it. And the riding is fun because you're sort of you know, you're with a group of people. We were in your head a lot which is like for me a dangerous neighborhood because like you take one wrong turn and I could just like jump myself into some terrible idea. Yeah. It was the best year it is. It is very challenging because my body held up great. However, I was the week after I was so sore, you know, I mean you're riding like between sixty and a hundred miles a day and it's a lot, you know, it's it's really It's a lot and it's a lot of time just to think because you can't use music or have headphones in or anything. So I'm thinking a lot and which is also exhausting because they just got so much on my head, you know, it's like so so my mind, but anyway, yeah, it's have you ever thought about doing it. So my dad was a huge cyclist and he really pushed me to get into it growing up and I was successful at soccer. And so all my time had really yeah bent towards soccer as Every weekend you're at a tournament. I was able to like play abroad at a young age. So my dad really pushed me but I've always thought of it and I saw how much fun your team had this year and I was like I should do that. I just think it would be like you said the Journey of the journey is the part that you love about it, but it's something that I'm like, okay, I think I think I've done enough SoulCycle classes. Like I think I can do it. And yeah, I think it's something I would love to do. So, it's great to hear you talk about it. Is I don't know it looks like a lot of fun this year. It was great. It's always great but it's it just is like a really feel good. It's a really like you. It's a really feel good time. You know, I mean everybody is there with a common goal and to you know, help people that are living with HIV and to help them get better access to things that they need which yeah inevitably makes their life better, hopefully and and it just seems like oh the money just helps so much and it does so many things for people that just Can't get access to it because they all have the same privileges as other so you guys maybe during this podcast might hear like a snore or some licking or some tapping or maybe even here like on the run into the mic which I may leave because that's like makes this episode really authentic, but I was greeted by a very very lovely dog that Kyle is fostering currently. Can you talk about I know you had a dog previously and talk about why you Foster dogs. Like what where did that passion come? Yeah, well, I exactly today's the anniversary of her death is the 27th. I know doesn't know it's okay. No, she was just like, you know the love of my life like she's like, yeah, she died a year ago today and we were on a hike and yeah, we were just on a hike and she hiked up we did all the time and we're at the top of Griffith Park and she just like started getting really dizzy and not dizzy but stumbling and I was like this weird and we had just had Sure, and like we had I feel like it was late in the afternoon wasn't too hot but she just like collapsed. She never got up again. We like we're bringing our water back and forth and like, you know, like people on Lookers were like stopping by helping bring water and she just was panting and couldn't cool down and We were giving her CPR. We have like the vet on the phone. I mean it was like a whole thing and giving a dog CPR is really challenging because you just don't really know if it's even working. I mean their mouth is sort of opened their panting you don't want to like take any breath from them. They think you know still like it was so strange. It was sorry. She wasn't necessarily panting when we were giving her CPR, but I didn't want to like remove like in case you were still so hard to tell you I so we I'm not I've no idea. Yeah, but I could tell that she's short of wasn't really breathing. It was bad and then it wasn't successful and then I just like was like, I'd rather just have a few minutes here with her why her eyes are still open where I would then like continue to give her CPR? Yeah, you know anyway, so then she died and that day on the hill. I'm not like up there in the middle of the mountain. It was so hard and yeah, it's been like a really long recovery. It's really strange it like feels like today it feels okay, but for like a few months after I think I was just Linda not like I just was devastated, you know, just because it's also such a traumatic way for an animal to go but fostering animals now, it's been a year. I started fostering dogs big massive like her maybe started in May so had been made june-july, so three months, so I guess nine months after her death and its really nice because it's sort of like I see little little idiosyncrasies that she has and I see them in her and I see those Increases in the in the other dogs as well and I sort of just like it's like a nice like reminder makes me smile like, you know, but they're also so they're their own dogs to like they're individuals they you know are so different than her, but it's funny that the breed sort of carries similarities with each dog. But yeah, it just sort of warms my heart to have a pup around, you know, you'll be able to take care and to nurture another animal back to health like these animals have been mistreated and abused and Captain really terrible conditions and it's sort of like we Heal each other my therapist and I talked about it like yeah because like for example Angus is just so loving and so kind just had a really rough go when he was a kid or when he was like small. He was kept as a breeding dog in a really small pen and sort of just used for that for a long time. And then he was like passed out on the street and then they picked him up on the street and he was going to be euthanized and then someone had called this Foundation that I work with and work. Hey, do you have anybody for this dog? He's going to euthanized and if you could have a For men we could like save him and so they just called me and I said, yeah, but it does it feels like it's it's so heartwarming It generally makes me feel like I am helping out an animal that wouldn't you know necessarily be alive or be able to help themselves without it or just had a really rough go and they didn't deserve that. So, yeah, if it just like this, it just feels really good, you know, and I also feels like I get to heal with don't like they heal me to you know, just about how to practice love and tolerance and patience and intimacy. Like an analytic just getting close to letting someone to get close to you again or not someone but a dog get close to you again after losing one and it's just like a practice. Yeah. It's a minute. Well, thank you for sharing. Oh, yeah that story. I really appreciate that got one more thing kind of about you. And then yeah, we're going to talk about your sister. Oh God, so in terms of for this community, but I Saw You released a film. And it was in like a film festival I think is when I heard about his boyfriend he act and you're in the MFA student currently, so can you talk about like why you've chosen that and can you talk about what that means variance making boyfriend and that was like your first I'm guessing first film. Yeah and a festival. So yeah, I can speak about kind of that whole all that for us. Yeah. No, of course. Thank you for bringing that up. Yeah. No, I love y start by I guess it sort of started. I was making videos on YouTube. YouTube for a while and most of them are like Men's Grooming lifestyle videos and then I would always I have an interest obviously in like lgbtq activism. And so I wanted to make why want after I saw Moonlight. I just like I need to I just would love to tell more narrative stories about just more narrative queer stories basically anything on my on the Spectrum and just amplify voices that potentially wouldn't be able to be Amplified with without a bigger platform or no help these stories be told or even whether I'm Losing them redirecting them or giving them visibility or any you know, anything and Moonlight. I feel like really was just you know, it's one of the best films I've ever seen and it really inspired me to just take action to get into Film School. My first degree was in nutrition dietetics and I never finished school because of a drug habit and then I went in to hair school and I finished hair school and then so this is my third time in school, but it feels like it feels like where I'm sort of supposed to be well in film. I don't know. Sara Lee like in school but definitely like making stuff like this. It kind of feels like a graduate program to my YouTube channel and I still love making YouTube videos, but I haven't made one in a while. I just feel like I'm just hit like a I don't know like a creative slump when it comes to YouTube stuff. I just don't feel super passionate about Men's Grooming anymore and like men's lifestyle stuff. I feel more passionate about lgbtq activism. I feel like it's much more where I'm supposed to be. I'm sure grooming stuff is definitely necessary. It's great. But like I don't want to necessarily lend all of my attention to that. I feel like in the world that we live in today where people in Russia are being killed because their details are put up on a gay hunting website or in chechnya when people are being rounded up and kept in camps and tortured and there's countries where being gay and be lgbtqia+ is still illegal and laws to that you can be You thrown in jail or killed is just like unacceptable and I just don't want to be a part of that world and I just want to lend my platform to help bring attention to that or change and I think narrative filmmaking is one way that I could do that. So that's why I wanted to go to school and boyfriend is just a queer love story about two guys that meat And by happenstance at a coffee shop, and I guess I don't really know how much Dave away but they yeah, it's it feels like some I just honestly I was just winging it like I don't even want to like lie about like we were sort of I wish it's a film that I put on my YouTube channel to get into Film School. It was like my application basically and I was sort of winging it. I like had a small crew of like five people. I like pay to sound guy and my friend who's a Director also likes assisted me and I produced it and then my friend Daniel shot it and we were just like let's just wing it. You know, that's just like trying to make we did it in a day and you know, I was just like I hope this is great. We like wrote it on set. I was like giving them a lot like not get lines, but I was like, let's talk about this and and then, you know we had certain lines but we also did a lot of it on the cell phone. So a lot of it just like feels very mm. What was 18. So like very just like current when it comes to Communication online. Unlike cell phone usage texting and stuff. So yeah, you know, I loved it so much and if it was like one time where I felt very alive directing, it just feels very good to collaborate with other people and to make something. Yeah. It felt what I want thing. I really love about film is that it is a collaborative effort that it is a like a team that you can surround yourself with people who are better than you at all these things and then they can help you make something great. And it's also nice to have a team that supports you and being a beginner. because I feel like it's very hard for me to be a beginner when it comes to like ego and not wanting to look stupid and also having a platform and being a beginner having a having a lot of eyes on you like the potentially I do I X is scary because I don't really get I don't feel like I have time to like be bad or like mess up because everything I put out people are sort of going to see and I'm new at this. I'm not great at this like I'm a beginner, you know, so every time I throw something up I'm like it's awful, but I think hope you like it, you know, and it's nice because I have learned to sort of just put that aside and just make stuff and allow myself to be humbled by being a beginner. I did the same thing in like yoga in CrossFit to I mean, I mean, it's sort of like you're not good but you're just going to have to deal with him to get better, you know and keep practicing. So I do that with film to and it makes yeah, it makes me really happy and it also makes me feel like I can make an impact more so than making groomy videos on YouTube. No, I mean it's very interesting that experience that you're talking about where I mean, you're putting your technically you're putting yourself out there right for criticism and it is it is a very tough place to be yeah. Because we're very guarded we don't want to be shot down. But no I have seen boyfriend. I suggest everyone to go. So yeah, thank you that it's just really good. I think what you said, it's very current. I think that and just that the whole the situation you said how it was portrayed. It's very current to this day and age and this community and how dating can be or can work out so I thought it was good. Thank you props to you. And I know we're going to we're going to switch this off. I just thought of one more thing where I mean you have some amazing photography skills, or I think you do. Where does that like creates? Like I'm looking around even in your apartment right now of these video These frame photos. Where does his creativity come from? I mean, I definitely am not The Artsy type in this way, but I mean it's a get it really is a gift and and I'm just curious, you know where some of mean I see feet on the Beats. I see, you know, I just see all kinds of amazing work and I've senior photography online. So can you speak of where you come up with these things where you're like halfway in the sand and I you know, it's just random things like that. Like where does this come from? I honestly, I don't know. I don't really know. I just really I love the idea of visual storytelling and I feel like which is another reason why I love narrative film is because it feels like you're telling it, you know, you're definitely telling story and to be able to tell a story with one image. Is very cool too and it doesn't necessarily have to be a full beginning middle and end but or part of a story a snapshot of a story a visual diary a lot of my images. I feel like our if I'm feeling a certain way about something then I usually will go out and shoot a lot of my images are self portraiture because in the beginning I was really scared about asking other people to shoot similar to what I was saying about film is I can just don't want to like shoot something and then be like, oh God, this is awful, you know, so I would just shoot myself. And I don't really wear like I'm not really good with like clothes or fashion. I were sort of wear the same thing every day. So and I think the body is very beautiful just like natural skin tone. So I would just a lot of it included like absence of clothing not necessarily to like be nude but just because I feel like skin tone in nature just like is really pretty and so it was also like a very it was also felt like a meditation for me too. So I would just go Out and explore and I felt like a healing time for me. It just felt like a time to be creative and kind of access. Feelings that I was feeling about something and kind of put it into an image or a position or oppose or where I was or the lighting or you know, just all sort of would be how I was feeling and I just talked on myself, you know, just like they were really bad in the beginning and then they I started to create like a style. I guess everybody has their own style. You know, you just sort of are going to wing it and then you're going to learn and then you're going to develop a style just based on how you shoot and There's no wrong or right way to do it. You just go out and doing it is just healing for me. So I just kept going and then Overtime kind of nail down the details and create things that you think look great and it's just nice that other people seem to think that they look great too feels like I'm very grateful that they other people like them sure. There's lots of people that don't but you really, you know, and then be able to share it didn't like online is a nice privilege that you can get criticism from people and usually feel like my critiques are always very positive, which is nice and I do get negative ones too and not negative but ones were There's room for growth and which I always welcome because that's great. I don't really feel like I have them in neutral sunlight, like knowing always says like terrible things like every now and then yeah, but I don't know people are always so kind about it and or just don't say anything which I think is also nice, but I do appreciate the critique. I do think that it is very helpful as an artist to be like someone to offer where you have room to grow. But no thank you for saying that and that sort of in photography sort of led me into film. You know or just a video. Yeah. Okay. Well, let's have a time to question it did so it's I mean, I think as you said everyone has their own style and I think that's something you can tell about like if you go through your Instagram or whatever you can tell there is a like a style you can tell there's like the way you edit the way that and again it's these are very like the photos are just all different. I think that's the interesting thing is like you can be in the woods or in the desert your On the beach. It's just very different and and it's like you said it's it has its own aesthetic. And yeah, it's no you didn't answer the question. Okay good. Thank you. But we're going to go ahead and take this detour enough of them me. No, not not that much. I mean as we talked about this podcast is about people who player and the world of soccer and identify as lgbtq. And obviously this past summer was the Women's World Cup huge event that are women one like Tactically but I mean, I feel like they could have done a little better. I mean Ali could have played a little bit more but now there's there's always storylines and then Megan was probably the biggest story line and just everything she accomplished and her voice but kind of leading up to the World Cup one of the bigger and bigger stories, but one of the stories was the re-emergence of your sister and oh, yeah. Yeah, and so when I mean, of course, I know your sister I watch soccer and it was just very interesting because he was the kickoff tour or the the tour to the tournament and that's when she got brought in right? I think it was two games left and she started a full match and that was really a lot of the talk from the commentators and they could you lie fallow they really liked was like, okay. Here's Ali Krieger coming out of nowhere, you know, this is like her time to win that spot and she did and fast forward a few months and your There is playing in the World Cup final. So for me I was like wow, this is a great story. And here's a person in her brother who has played soccer. Yeah, they have a relationship and I was like, I've got a interview you and hopefully her but anyways, this is where we're going to transition to so kind of talk about growing up with your sister playing soccer being successful. My brother's kind of also had this relationship with a brother other sibling being a really good athlete to come talk about that journey and growing up first with your sister. I mean, I feel like we were what were 13 months apart. So we're really I mean, we're close we weren't always like as close as we are now friendship wise, but even from the get-go like I always knew that she liked she always stood out as like the best and her team or one of the top players and you know, I really feel like I started to notice that When she was in middle school high school early high school and she would be starting all the time and you know, just the she was always the smallest player on the field as well. So I was always a little bit surprised by that because I was just like, how is this little like nugget like a starting with like all these girls that are like, you know much taller than her and stronger than her, but she always found a way to sort of Excel and to succeed and I remember like her first Accolade that I remember was like Gatorade player of the year in high school. And I was she was maybe like I don't even know what you're sure was but it felt young and I was like, oh this bitch really, you know, and like she was always on the front page of every newspaper and like I was always in like the honorable mention, you know, like it always felt like I was a little bit in her Shadow, but it wasn't like you never felt competitive between the two of us, but I think I internalized that a little bit and I sort of felt and I was also realizing that I was gay too. So it that compounded with Like being second best in my family like my mom and dad look, they're great parents. They did a great job both of us and I'm really grateful for them. However, I do feel like they they are closer with her than they are with me and I play a role in that as well. Like I feel like it's not just them but and they don't I wouldn't say favor is a strong word, but they reach out to her more they talked to her more and it's not like she really well like subjects don't complain to me about it. But you know like it's not like Like she's they don't love her more but it is you know, they she she's a lot of what a parent would love. You know what I mean? Like they were parents like my parents they they get to share in a lot of her success and I'm sure that feels like very good and in comparison to a drug addict who is was at that time when she was sort of excelling in school. I was like getting high every day. So it makes sense, but they were always there for me too and growing It really felt like we were really connected and therefore each other and especially when I started to realize that I was gay and she she became such like a big support for that early on and so and then she didn't realize until like a little bit after me or then I got to be like have her back as well. But yeah, I you know, she always was so good and I just kind of knew that it would keep going. I don't think I did your sister like enough credit by introducing her and I was like Ferociously try and do I find the exact Accolade? So hopefully I'll get to interview her and she'll get to correct me on this but I think your sister Ali is what I three-time World Cup participant with the US Women's National Team when I guess to time going to the Olympics for the team, maybe one I know she was like you wanna juror. Yeah the year that they won the gold. She was injured for ACL. Okay right before it actually come on guys before and then the year after they lost in Sweden to Sweden and Brazil. Next time the first time I feel like I think it was two. I think there's two in there but I don't know. Anyways, I mean, she's been she's a yeah, I know. The World Cup was this summer and one thing I noticed especially for you. And actually you had a tweet. It was really funny. Again, you're her brother. You're just in that much as the in the action as we are, but you've got this relationship with your sister. Different access yes, and I remember I think you tweeted something like oh God. It was like you're like, oh no, I'm getting like all these soccer feet people like following me now or yeah or any was just interest it was the to me. It was a hilarious tweet because you know, you're tweeting your reactions to the game and you're getting all these people you follow you to but it was interesting because a ton of soccer people are now like interested in what you're saying because of the US but also just your interesting person who your sister is so I think it was it was interesting because here you are now your supper Guru. I'm sorry. I mean no, I mean thank you. I just I don't really know what I'm talking about her birthday. I just have an opinion and I just have a few eyes online watching and people that just love Ali and I sort of you know, she I I get scared because like I'll tweet as I the fan base exactly like I just in the fan who happens to like be related to a player and everything that I say online is my opinion, you know, and she will get on like she'll text me after the game should be like, I can't believe you tweeted that like you can tweet things, you know, so we have certain rules that I don't but she like allows me to be a fan and she and I you know, I have in my bio that like these opinions are my own and she honestly is so much more humble and kind and sweet and not combative like me. Whereas I tend to be a little bit more sharp on my opinions and vocal about them. She's more private and like reserved and that's just how I've always been and and I feel like just like anybody else on Twitter. I'm mindful about not dragging any one. Who is I try to be mindful about not say anything unkind to people that are on our team and I know that everyone's doing their best at all times. However, it still doesn't That I can't share what I think you know, but I generally I really love everyone on the team. You know, I really do I feel like I get along with everyone there's a few that I go along with like a much better just because we're more clothes but yeah, it is she says she does like tend to say like could you just not with this, you know adult touch this and I'm like, yeah, of course, but it's funny. All right. She doesn't put that many rules on it. I know it was it was for me. It was just a funny thing. I remember you saying that and I was like, that's it. I mean it's an interesting balance. It's just it's you you're walking a line. But also you're a fan as you said, you know, I just don't know. Sorry. I just don't like it's just like feel like I don't I just I want to just have like a few followers and just be able to say what I want to say. I don't want to I don't I don't want to have to hide what I want to say because who's following me? Like I know Jill's wife or Jill maybe potentially sees things that I say so I am Mindful that I'm not critical in a severe negative way. However, because I love the national team I still feel like I'm about to critique it right like just like a politician. If you have a politician that you love it's also fair to critique them in a positive and negative way and like I don't necessarily feel like the things I say are attacking I don't incite violence. I don't want anybody to hurt them or touch them or or tweet at them or anything. I just feel like I'm allowed to share my opinion. I mean, that's what social media is all about. About right. I mean maybe I'm wrong people are listening to like no claim. You can't say that but yeah, I don't ever try to say anything that's hurtful something. You said and something I saw firsthand is Ally herself has I would say a team of loyal followers. I mean when it was announced that she was back on the team. I mean there were so many people that were so happy and were like waiting for this day to come right because you know, You talk about this. I mean, there's a ton of people who support her and I guess for me, I would love to know did you think she was going to make this? I mean, obviously I think you thought your sister was good enough to make the roster, but she wasn't really in the picture, right? So what was your thought process on that and I guess the day that you heard that it wasn't out that she made the roster. What was that feeling for you? How was that Journey from her kind of being know we're involved with the team to a couple weeks before the not are you know? Roster announcement. She's playing and fighting for her position. Yeah, I mean it feels it felt great. Yeah, it felt really good. It felt validating. It felt like no I felt like like of course she should be on the team like, you know, I mean she won Your World Cup last time and she played so much the time before, you know what I mean? She's been at this. She said like the highest level she's been there for so long. She feel like she's been a part of this team for so long and she's been working so hard to get It's like it only makes sense that she hasn't she's just as good or you know, if not better than players have a better you are already on the roster, you know that you have there. So I always was a really confused why she wasn't there and I get the sense that the coach wanted to make sure that she had the best team going into the World Cup and that meant that she had to try out players from all over the country in certain spots and that just happened to be a lie spot and she it seemed like she was desperately trying to find someone to play and the right back position and maybe she just couldn't you know, and then she was like look maybe I had it. Maybe I'll he's the best player that we have in that spot and I tried all these younger girls and no one is that good or as good as a lie? And so let's take the bus players. So they took Kelly Emily and Ally I guess they're sort of like the rightish back positions and I happen to love all three players. I love Kelly and we have a really good relationship. And so when I About ali it's not that I it's not that I mean that Kelly shouldn't be on the field. It just means that I just want a lie on the field. I also want Kelly on the field. It's not my problem to figure out who should be on the field. I just want them both on that, you know, so I feel like sometimes I get flak like, oh, what about Kelly? I'm like she could be there. Yeah. I'm not saying that I just say it. I want Ali to be there. So it felt very validating to have a lie back on the roster. Just hope that she would get some minutes and I knew that she wouldn't play every minute like she didn't in 2015. Well, maybe she came out for 15 minutes. I think to let someone go in one game in 15, but and that was sort of like the wind for me. Like I feel like she had one and I was like look you have like this is not how she felt but I was like you have one this is like sprinkles on top go really enjoy yourself have a blast but like you have one like it was such a Cinderella moment that you won on the same field that you tore your ACL on like it was just insane. You played every minute pretty much, you know, it was just like that to me. The most emotional one this to her. She loved this one the most because she felt like she worked her ass off to get back here. And I guess I didn't even realize it as a fan. I didn't realize that she I mean I knew she was training every day and I would be like girl it's offseason. Like what are you training for? She's like, I'm trying to get back on this team, you know, and she likes you would train every single day with Ashland without her on her own with a trainer, you know, she was working her butt off so that if Jill ever did cause Call that she could go and then she could be she could be right up there. You know, there's like facts they she'll tell me that I'm like that the team doesn't share because like with Fitness stuff. Like I feel like it's a private but she'll be like, you know, she'll tell me things and that she's like, I know I was working hard if not harder than everyone else because when we're doing Fitness I am I'm up there, you know, and so it's really nice to hear and I'm happy to see her succeed in such a way where she can it can just You know assure her that she's supposed to be here. You know that she is still solid at 35, you know, so I shall be 35 and I'm in a couple day or tomorrow actually, but yeah, so it was just felt really good for me and I'm not even involved really but it's just nice to see someone that you love so much reach their dream again, you know in a different way with a different story this time. Can you kind of compare attending World Cups and how they were different for me was this one A different feel for you than attending 2011 or 2015 like was there a different vibe to that or I mean there are they all kind of the same for you? Mm. And what was the other one eleven? Yeah, 2011. I went to a couple games then flew home. That was in Germany. Yeah, 2011. I went a couple games in Germany and then I flew home and I had to work in New York City and then I flew back from the final and like that was intense because I went Square the pka that put them into the final or the semi-final I forget or the PK in the semi-final. I was in New York at a bar by myself watching the game and like stood on the bar and people were like what is happening like the games on but like no one was really that into it. I was like wearing my jersey it was so funny and then I flew my work wasn't going to like like it was like a hair salon. They didn't really understand Sports because they're the guys that like don't really watch sports. So I kill you just for their like you can't take off my work and I was like I'm going back. It's either and then oh my God, just so happens that our district manager is from Boston and she was like, obviously no Sports because she's from Boston just like one, of course, you can go World Cup final again go and so my meeting manager was like, well, I don't you know, I didn't even understand anyway, so he went but I flew the feeling was so intense because I flew after work on a red-eye arrived in the morning had the game in the evening then stayed for the after party which was sad because we lost and then flew home that morning. So I was there for like less than For it was like in and out said to go to work the next day. So it was kind of a waste but my uncle actually paid for that flight, which was so nice of him as a gift and it was still I was so so happy to be there. So that one was like a little bit jarring because we just didn't win. Yeah and that PK the shoot. I mean everything was awful and it was terrifying the whole stadium was quiet the whole I was so nervous, but it was that one was just a weird vibe, but I'm really happy Japan won that year because I feel like it was a Cinderella story for them and I really feel like they deserve Curved it and it was so nice to help. It was like a year that they had. Yeah, they see mommy and I just felt like they needed they needed to win that year and I thought they deserved it, you know, so our lord gave it to ya and then we got to kick the rest and you know, I was just so I was so nervous and so excited and The feeling that you're in the intensity of the of the when you're like when you just want someone to win so bad because you're related to them is or they're your best friend. Like I can't explain the intensity of the emotion it just the anxiety that I feel it is almost unsettled. Like I can't even be sitting down. You know, I'm sweating shaking, you know, it's insane and that's also because I'm pretty anxious from the Geico like just like how I Am Naturally my mom is probably my mom's fault like she is also that that way so, you know, it's vibrating basically the whole stadium and so that doesn't help and that what happened in 2015 when we went up like three nothing. I was like that is a gift during me that is like if you are anxious like me that is just the best feeling. I mean, I was hugging Jill's wife. We were like jumping up and down. I was like so excited and it was that was amazing. So that went to me was the most emotional I was the most emotional I was crying afterwards. There's like pictures on the internet of me. That's like, Sabe. When Ali came over to like jump up and like give me a hug and it just felt the most pure to me because that the story that she had tour ACL in that field and then came back two years later to play every minute and to win again on that same field. It just felt like just perfect. You know, it was just like a ribbon on it just like tied a bow on it and it was like done. So this year. I just hope it's the last one because it can't do it again. No, she will not I'm just too old, but I just feel like I went into this one with a little bit. More not resentment, but it just felt like you have resentment is the wrong word. I just was like, I don't know what the word is. I just felt like she should not have to have gone through the two years of like of not knowing why she was removed so that to then just be brought back, you know, like she got like she got removed from the roster without any explanation really and no Jill never told her well, I don't know I wasn't there I Isn't present for their conversation, but I get the sense that she left the roster without any real explanation about why after just winning the World Cup, so it does make sense that you're going to try to get as you know to make sure that you going to the next World Cup with the best roster and to try a bunch of different players in these in these positions. But as a brother it still makes me annoyed like I'm still allowed to feel that so I was annoyed but I was so happy to see her there and and so I was a mixture of like happiness. Being excited a little bit of like, of course, she's here. She deserves to be here, you know, like validating her like I'm just so proud of you. Like I was just so happy that she you know, I'm just so proud and I felt like she really deserved it. And but I was just sorry that she had to be so emotionally drained the past two years, but I feel like it kind of makes it worth it because she got to be there, you know, it was all the training and all the hard work. I don't you know, I know that she was sad and I know that she would call me and it would be hard to watch but I know that you would watch every game and she would support them and of course ashes there so she's very supportive of all the girls and she's really tight with all of them and she never felt disconnected from the relationships. I just feel like it was challenging to sort of see everyone doing it without an explanation about why you're not there. So I was sort of internalizing those feelings for her when I was there but to have them win and just felt like it made it all worth it. You know, it made it. I'm just so that's why I feel like she felt it was the most powerful one for her because she had tried so are just worked so hard Get back. I was trying to earlier pull up another tweet. I know. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so I did not see I have not seen the 2011 pictures where your sobbing and apparently it's an excuse me, but I did see when they want. There's like a video you took and I mean aliens the game with the ball. I know you and I think you're starting to cry. I believe in your video. You're like going to be like going out. For me, it's like you can just see that love for her and that's and again it's like a fairy, you know, fairy tale ending she and ends with the ball at her feet as the final whistle blows. I mean, it's just usually yeah, it was nice. She said that she said I asked her afterwards. I was like, okay because that is an extra time. So I'm like, we're all sort of getting ready because it's two nothing right. So we sort of know these sort of have a feeling that they're not going to come back. You know, I mean, I have no idea what time you just never know. So I was really anxious and it was getting close and I had set my timer just because I was like, oh my God, it's like six minutes. I think it was six seven minutes left or something and so is that six minutes? I'm just like go on like you have the ball like just take a little score. Like I don't know it's just so it just felt very good. And I was just recording because I was like if this is it, like I just wanted to be able to have it, you know, so it was and she's so far away that I didn't want I couldn't really recorder of just be like a green Yeah, but it was yeah, it was really moving and that's what I that's something me and like it just felt was so happy for her because it just felt very poetic to have her have the ball at the end and to be able to play so well and to be able to go in for Kelly because Kelly got injured and to have them share this time to be able to share a connection that they have because they both share the same spot. And yeah, it's just you know Jill I think said to her Ali said Joe said to her, you know, this is why you're here, you know, this is why you're here to go in the field. I need you the most and to capitalize and to not like save the day but it felt like we need you now, you know like this is you are such an important part of this team and go bring it home, you know, so it felt really good to know that Jill said that to Ali and that she was very grateful to have her there because she could sort of come in and it would be like nothing was you know, that there wouldn't be any difference between her and Kelly or that the game changers as they call themselves. Could I mean I feel like the The bench is so deep that honestly anybody can you know, if you liked Adventure so good like the whole like one time one game I was like they were plans like Thailand and like Carly and Kristin were going on and it was like 11 nothing or something and I'm like imagine being down and then Carli Lloyd and Christen press or coming on the field like that's devastating. Yeah anyway, so it's nice to know that Jill is appreciative of having a lie there and especially that she can go in when in a time of need and when Kelly just unfortunately got injured. Yeah, it's just so yeah, I just felt very poetic to have her at the ball if she's on the team to think we'll see you may be in Japan for the Olympics. Yeah. I mean I yeah, I would love to go. I've actually never been to Japan. So I would love to go that would be amazing. I've never been to that part of the world actually. So I think she's going to try to go for it. I know that she is very excited the idea. I think they're going to play through like the what's the tour Victory and Victory? They're going to play that and then I guess they'll potentially make the roster and or like to start revving up in January. Yeah, I would love to see her go again. That would be great. I think that'd be a nice way for her to just like wrap it up for me. Like I'm like girl. Can we just wrap this like, it's too much dress. Like I think she'll play for as long as they'll have her, you know, like she loves it so much and she does such a great job, but for me, my anxiety can only take so much. It's almost that. I don't even really want want to go or watch because it just stresses me out, but I do because I have to but it's worth it in the end when they win do we see you as the maybe ESPN sportscaster? It's like and thank God for Heather O'Reilly sat there and like kind of shut down that one guy on I don't even know his name but talking about I just think it was a little bit too much. You could just pull back like no, I mean, I'm from Full like I fully believe in the idea that it is more respectful to the team that you're playing to play and to celebrate as if like, they are any other team and that yes, the score is not desirable for them earlier undesirable score, but I feel like I wouldn't want a team to like lighten up. Or pull back or anything. Like I would want them to play like this is the biggest stage in the world. And this is the team who's going to win. I mean, I don't know that now but it's just such an incredible honor to be there and I feel like it takes away honor If you're sort of like, let's just lighten up for you guys. I think something Heather also said was I mean, these girls have worked their entire life. Yeah this moment and they score a goal. Like, how could you not I am this is what you have put in all the extra hours you yeah tank your I for this and to tell someone you can't celebrate but yet I've worked you know 20 plus years for this. I mean, it's just crazy. Another big thing that came out of the World Cup was the pay discrepancy and we were looking at the stats beforehand looking at V the difference in viewership from the men's and the Women's World Cup. I mean worst kind of your stance. I mean, I'm guessing you're supporting your sister and making sure she's paid rightfully. So what did you think at all about that kind of came from that and also I know there's a lawsuit going Going on, you know with the women's team. I think I know that so yes, of course, I believe that they should be paid equally especially if they're winning a much more than the men aren't and it's a shame and it's frustrating and it's all those obvious thing. It is to me. The biggest shame is that when people will sort of say to me, well the men bring in more money annually or the fifo the world the men's World Cup globally brings in more money this and that and I there's another part of that argument that I feel like, Emitted is the fact that we have supported men's sports for so long. Whereas if we would have supported women's sport in the same way that we supported men's sport in whatever the 60s 70s. I'm not even know the and given them the same amount of tension and given them the same amount of visibility and all of that then potentially it would be different right potentially. Now that these these teams would be at the same level. They would be like the same visible level like people will be watching them, but we don't know that because we've never really supported women's sports from the beginning like you supported man's so I think that's also part of the case to you know, like that is people were like, I know that they're fighting for equal pay because I feel like they were it was removed or it was kept from them since since the beginning. So I feel like that's a really big part of that. And so yeah, but of course, I feel like it's It is frustrating and I feel like it's just a you know, just the fact that hopefully we are moving away from that like this is a step in the right direction towards equal pay for women. I mean in like the numbers are like insanely different, you know, and sometimes people will argue viewership which you and I both know that United States the women's final was watched by more people than the men's and for u.s. Soccer alone. That should be very telling that you know, States want to support and watch and watch the team. Well, how do you feel about it? I mean, I think we kind of spoke about the fact that the men losing. Yeah can make more than the when the women went in a match. So if you take a single match and the u.s. Men lose but the US women when they both play Argentina, whatever mmm and the men can make more I mean that to me just is absurd. Yeah, and it doesn't mean just doesn't make sense. It's like what? I don't I don't understand the thought process behind it and something we also talked about is I think the US women Drive the game, you know, people are watching the women's game. I mean of course for other countries, but they want to watch the u.s. The best team whereas the men, you know, I love to watch France and I live to watch Brazil and you know, they kind of get the effect of other countries kind of driving that viewership. So it's kind of my two cents. I think the Deserve equal pay I think they will get it just because we're kind of at this time where it's just so blatantly obvious the discrepancies and it's just the fact that there's like really no reason why I mean, I just think we're at a great time and we've got some really powerful voices in those team and the women are using their voices for the right reason. So I'm really happy for them and what they've done and I'm hopeful that they will continue, you know having a brighter future. Yeah, me too. I think it will be I you know, I think the other teams are catching up though and I feel like we can lean on Fitness like we have been don't get me wrong. I think that we are a great team and I think we not going around. I think we need a lot of work to you know, just like and I feel like other teams are getting it's getting harder to to be to continue to win at the way that we win and I feel like that's great for the women's game. Like I don't necessarily want it to be us all the time. I mean, I know that's I mean, of course when my sister's plan I do like, you know, I want us to win, but it's only going to help the game. That is just going to get more challenging. Looked at the semi for the quarterfinals and think it was it was all European team. Oh, yeah and then us right and you've seen in these European countries. They're investing in women soccer. For example, Italy I mean their team came out of nowhere who since when has the Italian women's team ever been a force at the World Cup and it's because Italy said, okay, let's make a women's league. Let's put money into it and look what's happened. I mean, it's same with the Netherlands. Where are the Netherlands come from? I mean they In the World Cup final were years prior, they couldn't even get out of the round of 16. I mean, it just shows that countries and we're seeing it a lot in Europe who spend money on their leagues will see Improvement and rightfully. So as you know in the u.s. we've kind of had trouble with the women's leagues and we've got to put more money towards and I mean again everyone wants to come and play and the end of yourself because it's an amazing league, but I agree the the teams were catching up and so will be interesting to see where it goes from here. Am I agree to yeah, I hope that it gets just more and more challenging would be more interesting to watch more fun to watch and you just want support to continue to grow and to get opportunities for younger women and for or just young kids in general to have something to Aspire to and like be able to play all over the world if they want and it just because the idea that they can learn new cultures and stuff like when Ali played in Germany, you know, just like she was there for four or five years and she came back she just grew up there. I feel like she just came back a new person and to have other kids have the opportunity as well because he's Other leaks are strong. It's great. You know, yes play here too. But also the idea of going away and playing to is is great and you get to like meet other players that you're playing against in the world cup and just makes more of a community more of a family more, you know, you don't want sport to divide people you wanted to bring it everybody together, even though it sort of divides people because I feel like I like one, you know, it depends who played but yeah, well on that note Kyle, thank you so much for giving me part of your time a Conversation. Do you want to shout out any of your social media handles here? I mean, I always give the opportunity to you can do so if you would like or I can put it in the notes of the description, but you know, it's uh, I'm just at Kyle Krieger on everything or on Instagram and Twitter Twitter proceed with caution. But no, I mean now that the world comes over at home early. Yeah. We'll see ya anyway, but yeah kind of careers. Thank you so much. Yeah. Thank you so much. Hey guys, so I really hope you enjoyed that interview with Kyle. Like I said, he's a really interesting person. He was a great host and I loved getting to meet him and his dog Angus again. I think the relationship he has with his sister is really special and it's super unique and it's just really cool to talk to someone who is related to an Olympic World cup-winning athlete and just to learn the ins and outs of their relationship. And what I think would be really great is if I could make this podcast full circle and travel down to Orlando and meet Ali and kind of get the other half of this interview and see how her relationship with Kyle was growing up and just learn more about her soccer career. Anyways again, as always I really appreciate your support. 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Hey guys! Thanks for joining me and The Gay Footballer's Podcast. If this is you first time to the podcast, welcome! If you are returning, I appreciate your commitment to the podcast. The goal of The Gay Footballer's Podcast is to spread the awareness of LGBTQ and ally representation in sports. With the main focus being on football, but also exploring other sports and personalities, each episode will consist of a 30 to 45 minute interview with an individual making an impact in their sporting discipline. Whether a current or former athlete, a member of an organizations front office, or even a sports journalist, each interview will help under cover the challenges, opportunities, and success LGBTQ individuals and allies face in their discipline within sports. For this weeks episode, Adam had the opportunity to chat with Kyle Krieger, brother to USWNT soccer player Ali Krieger. Many of you may know Kyle from his huge following on social media. Kyle became big from doing male grooming tutorial videos on Youtube and has expanded his creativity into the photography and videography space. In the interview, Adam learns about Kyle's love for soccer and his relationship with his sister growing up to today. They speak a lot about her accomplishments and what is like being a supporting brother to a World Cup Winner and Olympic Champion. Throughout the podcast, listeners will get to learn more about Kyle, his thoughts on the USWNT and have some laughs along the way! To follow Kyle Krieger follow the links below: Twitter: https://twitter.com/kylekrieger Instagram: @kylekrieger Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/kylejkrieger/ Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPvNhOz1M7BegnrUAZFrvPw  ---   Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/tgfootballerspodcast/support 