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They're back for this season as well. Stay tuned. You're tuned in to AfterBuzz TV the ESPN of tv top. Now, let them go let it begin God. I just have to say I do this every opening and I just turned to Dave and I said I hate that I say stay tuned or just be right back in just a sec. It's all good. It's all good because it keeps you anxious to like stay tuned. I'm going to stay tuned for what? All right are excited. That's for what thanks for tuning in. It is the challenge War of the Worlds episode 3 we're talking about tonight. It's called casualties of War. It's just David and I tonight's hanging out with everybody because you know, it's Jenna bussiere and DPR David Christopher how we doing everyone? Hello crickets, you know Pam no, damn we miss you guys shout out. So let's Dive Right into this episode going over everything. We loved this daily challenge the month. Slide elimination Johnny Bananas is gone is West The Mastermind or did West get a few favors in this episode? We'll go over. You know, I think you got a few favors gotta keep favorite. Yeah. Well, we'll talk about it. And then we also got the weird Law and Order tribunal interrogation room that's going on that we gotta talk about whether we like or not. So for overall thoughts night. I want to pose some questions to you bananas or Ashley. Who are you excited to see go home so early this season, Obviously, you know, like I've said before you guys know, I'm a banana fan, you know, I support, you know, the bananas but you know, it was interesting to see what happened between him and Wes I enjoy watching that rivalry, you know, it's kind of fun at the same time. You know, I'm not the biggest fan of Zach. So I was bummed to see, you know, zag win and yeah, so I was bummed to see bananas go home. Okay, so you are more sad that bananas went home first rather than Ashley would have been like that. It's a sad but I was disappointed. I wish that I was more shocked. I wasn't shocked because we watch three hours after the east coast and we knew that this was going to happen. Unfortunately, I actually didn't look on Twitter or social media at all. And then David came in saying so due to see who went home. No, I'm not trying to look at all. Was it CT? It was probably CT and he goes down to now, right? No, I mean I saw it on, you know, Morgan's IG than bananas and they're you know, they're talking about it and you know, it kind of ruined it for me. The same time we you know kind of I think it was kind of obvious. Yeah, and then it grew foreshadowing like is it bananas and his smile was just here like well that says it all I obviously know it's bananas. So that was question. Number one second. I want to ask you who's more annoying this episode gosh Anza or Zach who are Partners last season, but they're still lingering around this season that stuff that is so tough. Because you know, I don't know Amanda personally or exact but on the show, man, they both really just like Good to me sometimes in a Amanda this show was just popping off and it was just like I even told him I was like I could not heal. I was like, I'll throw myself in just to get away. You know, I just I don't know I couldn't handle that. She was just going off in the way. She was just like, you know, just talking to her partner just I couldn't handle that it would be very very difficult to team with her. So I'd say she would probably be right up there. But Zach's like a close second because you would do exactly last season then to not be partners with Amanda. You just throw yourself into the game. Because you just cannot work with her maybe not that extreme, but honestly, I would try to separate myself as much as possible in that house, you know, because she's just like she's Hard to Handle. Yeah, I didn't know Zach could get this emotional. I've seen him make other people so emotional because of the way he's treated them a lot of his past partners his girlfriend other females in the game. So it's really weird to see the tables turn and for him to break down and cry and just be as upset as emotional as he was this episode that was weird to sit. Back and see him in a different light and I can't just forgive very easily because you know that I've had more dislike towards act than I have had likes to but I'm just wondering what's going on and it's just weird to see him like this but in his defense, I did really like the way that he worked with Zahida. I thought that they were a great team and he's actually communicating really well with her taking leads from her and it seems like he's willing to work with her as a partnership and as a union rather than him taking control. Wait, hold on. Hold on. Hold on, so you liked it. Giving up his chance to win in throwing the ball to ask you like that are going to talk about more when we get to the daily challenge. I cannot say daily. I think it's all these British and UK Australian accents that we run watching right before I come in here. I'm like no the daily the daily challenge, but I'm going to talk about that more when we get into the mudslide challenge, but just right off the bat kind of overall who was more annoying as F. So, but I have to say Amanda at this point. It's just really hard and annoying to watch what I can't do anything but throw my hands up like what are you doing anymore? What are you actually doing? This is your partner that you're yelling at calling him an idiot calling him stupid saying nobody likes him. It's his first time in the challenge. How do you really know if nobody likes them yet? You're screaming at him. Maybe try working with your partner and see what happens. Yeah. How is that at all logical to think? Hey, if I'd be little and talk down on my partner. This is gonna help our team. You know, like we're how do you even like why would you do that? You know that I think that's going to make you guys just Apart from each other. It's going to make your game horrible than another person's going to hate you on top of that like the house is already not a fan of you. Why are you going to have your partner hate you? Do you know, why are you not working with your partner? Exactly. It's like it's not rocket science. That's your only person in the game. It makes zero sense me and I'm just don't know how she has any friends in this house. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, who was she ever I know? She's friends with Ashley and she has a lavender ladies and Sylvia and shame but how does she ever even get to a point of Friendship with them? I don't know how her personality can Mash with anybody else's in the house because you literally It seems like she literally like fights with everybody it does. She's so toxic. So between the two of them, so you dub Zack was more annoying. I would dump Amanda with Zach being a close second. I'm gonna have to go that as well. Yeah, but I mean it was annoying that sack gave up. It seemed like he was just very I have ass with well, I'm not going to win this and you're also so big right he could have did way better and then I mean again to go back to what you're saying. Like, you know, he obviously didn't made it. His head wasn't in the game. But I mean there's there's something going on with him. You know, I mean, I think maybe it's having to do with guilt, you know for everything maybe someone guilty or what he's doing Jan. I don't know and then maybe if he did have something with West to where they prodded that I don't know, but maybe that's some guilt as well. That's how his head is not in the game. How is your head out of the game? Because yes, you made a bonehead mistake. I hope you do feel remorse. I hope you do feel slightly guilty, but your girlfriend is cool as hell and you guys talk for five minutes and you threw a tantrum and she forgave you right was your she looks like she's kept him in the game. Maybe it's maybe it's some kind of guilt that he's feeling maybe there's more to the pumblechook true now. I'm just no I cannot. Say that now I'm being like the girls gossiping. Exactly. Okay. So third question for the overall thoughts this daily challenge was amazing with the mudslide, but I'm sitting there thinking how powerful how strong these other female competitors are the women on the show Who as a guy you would be competing the guys heat watching this are you thinking who do I not want to go against if I have the ball and one person is coming at me trying to rip it from me. Who was that one guy that one competitor that I just don't want to see that. Pit as far as the guys go. Yeah for you guys, you're mad and down CT really come on. I mean that guy is just like literally stiff-armed Jimmy as you saw he just kind of just Powers through, you know, like absolutely I mean the other guys, of course, I mean there there's some fighters in there. It's going to be hard but I think CT overall just a size is Powers strength, you know, no one messes with CT, right but you're right. Nobody did mess with him because he just walked right through ya for a second somebody I forget who it was kind of like did this Little tip toe to CT and then back pain and I was like now I'm not going to touch it today. But with all of the new guys and all of the new Talent you're so great. Those guys are great competitors. I feel like that would be a competitor. Like that would be very challenging. That would be fun. That would be something that like the boys rolling around in the mud, you know, like old game of football. That's what you know, I do like those guys, you know, that that would be something like that where I think CT would be like more of like we're gonna have to really fight this guy because he's just so huge and strong and if he's trying to rip a ball from me, none of them. Yeah, I'm gonna have to like use speed or something, you know. That kind of got dad strength, right? I think the other guys is going to be a little bit least in my opinion. I don't know. I haven't seen in person but more of a better match. Okay, because I thought you you may went Ashley Ashley see I mean, I don't know but there's a couple guys in there that are actually they you know, they look pretty dang intimidating. But you know, I'm going to stick with CT just because I've seen what he can do in the past, you know, so I haven't seen too much from the new guys yet. So one challenge is to hard to say, you know, yeah. All right. Well next topic we're going to get into is the elimination we have to obviously talk about bananas is gone already and our reactions and Wes it did he spearhead this or we're through bones or were a few bones thrown as way but first got to give a shout out to our AfterBuzz TV creators and our other channels. Yes. Alright guys, so, you know move on to our next topic. Hey just want to say thank you for making us the ESPN of TV talk for us to continue to grow we can definitely use your help. If you're on YouTube right now hit that Thumbs Up Button And subscribe. If you're on iTunes, please give us a 5-star rating. We appreciate it. Leave us some comments. Let us know how you found us but no matter where you are. Leave us a comment obviously, like I said get involved we like talk with you guys hearing from you as well being a part of AfterBuzz TV has meant so much to all of us. You guys helped us grow. This is awesome getting to work with this awesome girl and our team it's always fun. And we truly appreciate you supporting us and doing what we love. Don't forget to tell your friends and keep enjoying our shows so Thank you so much from the bottom of our hearts still in that Valentine's Day Bible. Yes. So let's get into the voting then it's a stalemate right away and then teach a kind of calls out cam not sure why she's the one that has to budge and change her decision and I actually really loved and respected that she said do they get to change am I the only one and I was a good for you camp because I wasn't even thinking that the entire time I would get so frazzled to be like, oh, it sounds like I need to change my decision or I'm going in she's like, well, what about everybody else? So Ash falls on the sword and Sides. Well, I'll change for the safety for my partner and I and I'm going to throw a bananas bananas gets thrown in there and he chooses Zach and sahiba, I had mixed feelings on this. What do you think? Well, here's my thing with that whole thing to begin with is is you know again, I agree with you with Cam. I think good call on her part because the way it seemed as like she was the deciding factor which kind of sucked right so, you know kudos to that. Um, but my thing is, you know, if you're calling someone out and you're saying, you know, this is what was wrong with trying to be tough. I mean Stick with your vote, you know don't backpedal now because something might happen, you know, like I say roll with it man up like, you know, if you're going to make a decision to call someone else stick with it don't backpedal. So I didn't like that. I didn't agree with that. I just say hey roll is what you're doing. So well scares say continue saying bananas and then possibly get thrown in. Well, we don't know what it could have been we have no idea what it could van and that's also I'm kind of bummed because I was curious and I wanted to know what was gonna happen, you know. Now get throw it in. Can you guys we're literally still riding this right now like ya know, what should we gotta get another map in here. We gotta switch up this challenge. Yes, I mean on you know, as far as that goes, you know, it's bump because I was curious to see what the consequence would be. But again, like I said, I you know, I I think it's fair who call it, you know bananas, of course, I think he's obviously mad exact and you know, it turned out the way it did. Yeah, I mean Zach borderline cried to you banana. Has are we really going to go that route? It's not that I'm mad that Zach got thrown in. I just think that that's a big team to put into elimination against you. I was I wasn't big on so heated yet. I wasn't sure how she was going to compete. I thought that she was a little bit of a lower level of a competitor, but she definitely can completely prove me wrong this illumination. She did great but I thought that going against Zach may have been a little stupid considering there was other weaker teams around but he really was That loyalty card and I thought that was a little little crazy. You know, I think as we've seen bananas he does tend to like let his emotions get the best of him you I mean, that's just what he does and you know, he obviously viewed Zach as a good friends part of his team and feeling betrayed as you've seen with Tony in the past. I mean he comes at you that's what he's going to do. You can expect it, you know, so I mean really like who else was he going to go after who else was he going to guess and Jenna you could have went Shaylee. Oh, no, that's Leroy's partner. Nevermind God. No, that's that's stepping over the right, but there's too much it meant to much to him. He was obviously pissed that he was in that situation to begin with and he blamed Zach for dinner. Hey, you know, that's why I have mixed feelings because guess I love that. I love like to call out that person that you thought did you wrong and I also just think that that's a great elimination great for TV. Right? But it's also like get out of your feelings all of you all the guys were so caught up in their feelings this episode. It was like very interesting to see them like this. Maybe yeah, maybe you know is the guys time of the month or something? Same house. They all got on the same cycle. So the guy did you throw on the same cycle to I mean was it did seem kind of like an emotional episode for a lot of guys, you know, they're very exactly so like, all right bananas is really going for this but I think if he was really going for that money, he probably could have picked a better team but I love when people are trying to call up big teams. I just don't know if it was the smartest decision for him. Well again, though, but I mean he did call Wes right away and he beat Wes. Yeah, you never know. He just has gone for this season. I mean why not he knows everybody's going for him. Anyway, so might as well just Yes, it's true. I'm for strong people. And also maybe he was taking advantage of the fact that Zach's head is not in the game and Zach obviously seems so mentally disrupted and emotional right now that he didn't think that Zach would be in the right frame of mind. You're right state to be able to execute this properly this challenge the elimination though is that it's a geography lesson and like I'd be screwed in a second. What is it with bananas getting these challenges like this? I mean as you see when you went and Devin with the lightbulb, yeah. Like these things are not in his favor as we've seen, you know lately just it's not good for him. And so immediately I was like, oh man, this is gonna be good for bananas, you know, but you know, it's part though. He's really good at puzzles. He's historically shown that he's got a puzzles and he's been to all of these countries. That's true. But that was so true. Like if anybody knows where these are in the map and shouldn't be bananas because he's been to all these places but it did look like just as much as I'm physically taxing competition as well because the guys were gas going up and down that rock climbing wall. Have you ever been rock climbing? Or even just in like indoor you guys once and I was like twelve super fun, but it's not super fun is just it is very taxing, you know, your forearms shoulders core, but I mean to me the challenging part would have been like trying to put all you know, the pieces in the right place that I would have been like completely the climate of in the easy part. I'd be like, you know, yeah look into the audience or that you know for some help. But yeah so that, you know, it didn't seem that crazy obviously like, you know intensity wise, but it just mentally I thought it was pretty yeah. I liked it. Um, it was interesting that I've sold neck and neck. But again my perception of it was just tainted because I knew the entire time who was gonna end up on top unfortunately, but I know Jen but I do have to say Zahida really did a great job. She proved herself. I again, I know I said this at the top of the show, but I thought the way team Z communicated with each other was so good and exactly what teams need to do in this situation. A lot of people were trying to help Zack so they had that going for them. But so he did a really Good job of being able to direct Zack where to put which countries agreed. Yeah, they did work very well. Especially, you know the pressure that Zach was filling and you know, depending on the game and I think yeah, they were a great team, you know, they it was a fair challenge. So I mean, yeah, exact one and bananas. Unfortunately you went home again again at what is going on weird. It's weird. Not going to be around but there's part of me. That's almost like that's fine for this season for some weird. I mean, I was loving the Vintage Wes and Zach meteor less than bananas rivalry. I was loving that because bananas loves to say that Wes isn't shit and that West doesn't know what he's doing and he's not a mastermind and he's never in the position of power. But West has always been good at this game. Also, they he just loves to like undermined him just for the Rivalry Wes is very good at this game. I will say that he's super calculated. I mean he seems to pull things out of nowhere and just like man this guy did it again, you know, and I enjoy seeing I rather it was fun. That's why I wish it could have went a little longer. You know, I wanted to see him but has a little more but yeah West is super good and again, you know, I'm team West as well. I like them both. So, you know, it's a bummer that Johnny went home. But again, I you know, we still got Wes and I'm curious to see what happens with a CT. You know, I wonder now Wes is really going to take control of this game because it was kudos to Wes by teaming up with Hunter and they played great together in the daily when they were together. And Hunter passw the ball, but same thing happened in the first heat with Zach passing west of all accidentally, which I truly believe it was an accident. I think Zach got lazy. He threw the ball didn't feel like fighting because he's not in this mental state whatever it is that he's attributing it to and I think that West got lucky was standing at the finish line and caught it. So for that reason, I think that he was kind of literally thrown a bone thrown a ball through this he was able to get bananas in elimination. If you didn't get that pass from Wes, this was an entirely different game of this point and bananas probably didn't go home tonight. Night, that's a very good point Jen. I mean that's that's crazy to think like if that ball is never thrown and Western just happened to be there. I mean who knows how this could have turned out so, you know, I will give Zach the benefit of the doubt being in that moment intense your full mud. You know, you just throw the ball the ball right? So I'll give you I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and I won't say it was plotted or anything. It's just that's a crazy coincidence though. The West happened to be there, you know, and he just Chuck's it ball your intense. You're full of mud like it. What is your just like in the mud you're grinding you're trying to hold on you're trying to win a you know, do this guy's on top of you. Like you're setting us up for a visual porno right? Now. You really every word you're saying you're not again. Where is your sliding around a mud grinding all of these guys on top of each other grinding you I am like you're really don't know what kind of porn you're watching. But yeah, what record scratch called out, right? So let's get into this Deli. Delhi challenge, I'm not going to try to fix it anymore. Y'all whatever comes out of my mouth and I try to say the fleur-de-lis turns out the daily challenge. The deli is the Jersey. That's what it is the day men slide around a mud. This was a good challenge. I loved this front to back. I love them running through the maze looking for the balls the balls were we'll hit into like they did a pretty good job. I thought the the maze might be a weaker part of the challenge and not be that exciting to watch but they did a really good job trying to hide the balls and a lot of times people were Just like walking around with their fingers and their ass is not knowing what to do top to bottom love the mud pit and it just got more and more intense as it went on. Yeah, you know, I agree. I was thinking the same thing at the beginning I was like running through a maze to get but I was like what like and then the girls just got to run across the line, you know, at first I was like I didn't really get it and then when I saw, you know in the mud pit, I forget who exactly maybe it was kamyp the did it first when she went after and snatch the balls at wait, whoa, like when they went after Morgan and I was like, oh, okay. Now this makes sense this Is fun now I get it and then it just got intense from there. Right? Like people didn't know it almost felt like they didn't know what was allowed yet. Yeah. Nobody was touching nany and Jenna the first heat they just ran right to the Finish Line. I thought that was interesting and then as soon as Morgan gets the ball, it's like swarm attack five chicks honor that actor. That was crazy. I mean, how do you feel about that? Gen II mean obviously she's got a Target on her back as a Johnny but I almost feel like man. She gets hate it on a lot just in general. Hmm. Yeah. I don't know what it was with Morgan that all the girls jumped, right? Our during the challenge but it probably does come back to Johnny. It's probably comes back to Johnny and maybe her being fresh blood and being a rookie, but maybe I really don't know. I don't know why nobody was touching Jenna not here on the when they ran by and just decided to all hop on Morgan. That was crazy. That was crazy. I want to say though. This challenge was badass and watching it as a woman. I was so inspired by just the female strength, like watching this it made me feel motivated inspired to just like work out. Get strong because I'm going to the gym. No, well, yeah, honestly, that's what the challenge did today and I wonder if it I'm sure a lot of guys feel like that too because it was just such a true competition like it felt like this is raw. This is people wrestling. This is people using their brute strength and it was just inspired like d and ninja seeing all these strong badass Kick-Ass women. It's like this is what I want to be able to do and look like rather than like the whole skinny thing and you know, just be thin and right. It's just it's amazing. And to see them use it not only being strong but using that strength and it was honestly really inspiring really Kick-Ass to see well that's what I was saying with the whole, you know, when it's intense and you're in the mud and get these guys any like that's the same thing with the women, you know, that's it was a gritty raw challenge, you know Brown back to old-school just playing some football in the mud going for having fun. But I mean that was aggressive and the girls the girls killed it man. They were going hard the girls killed it until they didn't meaning some girl's murder this met this challenge their own and then some girls just never had a chance. Right shaylene. That was I mean if she was as little as she was on TV for was as hard and as ugly as it was to watch how do you think performed the best as at the female? Mmm-hmm? Probably I could imagine Angels or D. Probably I would think ninja and a pop into my mind just and and cam cams. Awesome. I love that. She was she had a bunch of girls on her back and she was thinking I could do this all day like just that not only physical but mental. That she possessed during that I loved but I think ninja and D. They were girls who had to then go steal a ball from somebody that's and executed it perfectly and with he's like, yeah, like I don't know if they had that like mental touch over the other girls they were in their heads, but it really wasn't even really a fantastic rest. They just were able to manhandle that ya know I have to agree with you for sure. Obviously, we expect that from cam. She's a beast and you know, yeah, that was that was I also was just so happy that entire time that Jenna I mean she did end up winning or getting into the tribunal but her and Gus, I was telling them I tell you in the beginning that I thought that they were going to be a black sheep team and I thought that they perform so well Gus was getting the balls right the maze first every time in Jenna was just sprinting her lull self to the end line and I was happy that she was finally being able to progress in some in the challenge because the last few seasons have not done well for her Nadia's back spicy Nani is so back and I love her fight for her being a little girl with kind of a smaller frame like He really has so much fight and so much like heat and spice in her and I loved watching her perform tonight to I'm curious. I want to I want to know Jen what would your strategy be? Like if you're if you're in there and I mean would you you know because you're talking about a little bit while watching but you're thinking about it. Was it would you would you prefer to maybe just kind of wait in the pit and just steal the ball as someone's coming. Are you going to try and help my partner brings the ball out? Right? But I mean as you see some of them obviously can get to ball. So at that point are you just like mentally just trying to focus on someone coming in are you like wait I have To attack I can't wait. I don't like being back on my heels. I don't feel I wouldn't like somebody coming towards me. I feel like I have to go and attack that and jump on it as quickly as I can to kind of have the physical Edge over like I want to be the aggressor. I want to be getting in there instead of being back on my heels and trying to like right play defense and just protect somebody from the right. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. How about, you know the same I mean obviously like being amazing the painter you just totally different mindset, but I mean, yeah, you just You know, I've done something similar and that's that you got to just go for it full force. But again as you see you're basically playing football the guys are going to come after you. So you're just going to have to go expect to just hit and be raw and pull through hopefully yeah anything else that struck you your biggest takeaways from The Challenge the dahle? No, I mean I think you know, I think it was just overall. It was just it was finally like just a raw greedy fun challenge to watch like it same thing with me Jen. I got like pumped up watch it till I was excited. I was like, yeah like you just looked fun. You know what? A really fun just rolling around the mud and you know you love this is where is your mind? I did. It's too easy. I think Hunter and West did great together their Alliance and this is what working in an alliance should be like, it's no secret and I love that everybody knows now their cards on the table and this kind of reminds me of seasons in the past like way past where teams would work with each other during the daily challenges and it would be obvious and everybody knows where Alliance instead of just kind of like these secret behind closed door line says where people are two-timing people and you're not really sure where there are Legions really lies Hunter didn't need to win pass the ball to Wes solidified also one of hunters number one enemy is going home. And if they continue to work like that the entire time it's going to be them till the end. So I thought that was perfectly executed game plan and Alliance and again to Zach. I don't really know where he went wrong this challenge because I think the beginning I felt like he was a linebacker like his size. He was looking credible even wrote down like wow Zack is Really playing well, and then all of a sudden just gave up pass the ball off and I'm like, he just loves handing opportunities out like last year. He sacrificed himself for bananas and Tony and sent him himself home. He just loves giving up freebies on this show and it just like I don't know he could be so good. It's just, you know, it comes on. I think a question of heart. And again, like I said, I don't know him personally, but from what we've been staying on the show. Yeah, you know it just it seems like he just you know, it's a lack of hard what we saw today was a like are you just kind of But he threw the ball, you know enough is it desperation or if it was Wes, you know, but you know it just yeah, he could have you think he could have performed a lot better given his size and strength and he didn't I just left today's challenge thinking there so many good teams right there guys. Don't know how this is gonna go really nodding in Turbo are good Jenna and Gus performed. Well, Paulie Annette Polly and I keep confusing Polly and Natalie because he was partners with Natalie McGrady last season, but his partner is Natalie even though it's ninja so Paulie and ninja very good what's actually going to be incredible like it's just so hard to see who's going to be the best team so many are so good and we're just getting started. Meanwhile speak bringing up Natalie poor girl hasn't been on an episode. Yeah her and JP are just like the only time they get any screen time is when they're a little like initial tags are hanging above their heads when they're doing the challenges. They're a nothing. Yeah. Well, they're just not that exciting. But Natalie's good. She's an athlete and I want to see more of what JP brings athletically but yeah, I guess there's too many people in the house right now where you can't everybody can have the camera time and storyline right now, right just got to step it up, you know as you see the ones who perform those get the most camera time. So, you know, so moving on to the tribunal. I have a few things on what happened at the tribunal interrogation, but we never got to talk about it last week because Morgan was here. What are you just hear your Thoughts on this little this Shack we got going on here. You know, I don't know how I feel about this yet. I really don't it's like it's kind of awkward in this like dark room and they're like up high on these pedestals, you know, and it's just like I don't know how I feel about that. It's just kind of awkward. You know, it's weird. It's really weird creepy. Yeah. It's kind of weird. You mentioned reference like Law & Order. It's like yeah, I kind of I mean I did like was you know, he said you gave me the power, you know, basically to be the judge that the jury executioner, you know, that's like I agree. It's kind of funny, but I don't know how I don't know if I like this yet. I really don't I think I like it just because it's new and it's there. It's weird. It's definitely weird. It feels big brother-ish. It feels Survivor ish, but I'm not mad at it just yet. Yeah, it's I mean, it's one thing for sure is it's weird. That's how I feel. It's a weird. I don't know if I like it yet or not, but it's weird. Yeah, if and it feels a little produced like it feels a little like awkward in there, but it's an eye, it's not I believe everything. They're saying is true. I don't think that they're being fed lines or anything. But just the atmosphere of it just feels a little like gimmicky I guess but it's something new and I like it. It's cool. And it's also nice just to see some people have to squirm and plead their case. Have you been getting like as we're saying like, you know, I can't was was asking was it Josh Amanda. Are you ready - yeah, you know basically asked him like our oh, you know, is there going to be any kind of issues with this after this for me? Basically, it's like who would really the right mind is going to even just in that situation going to be honest, you know, I mean, it's like I mean, but it's like, okay. Are you gonna tell someone? Yeah after this I'm definitely coming after you, you know, like you're not going to tell him that like right course not no, we're cool. You know, that's one of the points of the tribunal I want. Bring up to so I'm glad you did. I thought it was weird for can't even ask that question because I think if Cam was in that position, yes, she would have bad blood and I think she would say. Yeah. Well if I get thrown in because of your burn vote quote unquote and we all know what happens with burn votes, it can send somebody home. So if I do go into elimination, yes, I'm gonna have bad blood for you because you were the one that said my name and I think cam would feel that way if she was in the position. So I thought that that question was just like irrelevant. I agree. Yeah, it almost seems like mostly they're going to they're not going to be happy if they get Ronan you said their name? Right just like no dude were totally climb. Yeah, man. Thanks for throwing me in. You know, like of course. I thought the Paulie Kyle situation was a little awkward. That was fun. Probably looked a little like Ruffles. Yeah, you know, he loves to talk if especially to Kyle and they were almost going to fight each other last year, but Polly looked a little weird when he brought the situation up to Kyle like he almost don't hesitate. He didn't want to say well you're going to go after my girlfriend again, like it kind of felt not as strong. Usually as Paul usually comes off. So I kind of felt the same with both of them to be honest and I felt Kyle also was kind of film that same Vibe, you know, it was almost like oh trying to talk about like, you know, if you're going to come after us like come after me, you know yourself and you don't have someone else do the dirty work and all but I feel like he's just trying to talk his way out, you know, and again totally if you let him a little bit so that that I think both of them is just a little awkward, you know, I thought that was the perfect thing you could say to Paulie because Paulie loves nothing more than going against somebody one-on-one head-to-head be the better guy on paper and in real life. I'm like wow Kyle. Yes, you definitely know how to talk your in circles in this game. So a lot of people but for Polly like you hit the nail on the head, it's Pride. He's very prideful. So prideful. That's all Polly wants to hear is like, oh, you're right. I should take you out one on one, but it's not a point of just thinking Polly just say you don't like him you and Kyle obviously hate each other. I don't think it's a car Maria thing anymore. I know you don't think that car is going to get back. With Kyle. Yeah, it's very obvious. She's in love with you and pointing every crevice and corner of the home that she wants to do you in so I I don't know if Polly really is insecure about it or if that was just an excuse but I thought like it's more than fine to just say I don't like you you don't have to make it about Cara. I think it's probably a mixture of all of it though because obviously Cara and Kyle have bad blood. So I mean if you're dating someone and you know, obviously he has bad blood with a girl that he previously was with I mean, that's what you're going to be weird for you. You right. You're naturally going to kind of just feel awkward with that situation. Yeah, I thought he was saying that he just didn't want Kyle make any moves on Cara. That's what I wanted out of the house. I was like, you don't need to say that just say you don't like him right by this. I mean, I think it's just all of it is just an it. Just you know, it adds to that dislike for each other. Yeah. Another thing I was thinking about this tribunal is banana saying Wes really buddy. Think about what you're doing buddy. It's too early too early for what West hates. You you a you hate Wes if you are. Listen, I'm sure you throw Wesson to why is it too early? You know, I just I again I like how bananas are just didn't be as it was just called him out. He's like, you know, is this like actual grouping or is this just your thing? So I'd like actually how bananas handled it because he's like, you know cut the crap. Alright, this is between me and you this is what's going on. So let's just like lay it on the table, you know, so I like that, you know, I thought that good, you know, like let's not beat around the bush. So yeah, I like how he handled it and obviously, you know, he got thrown in and he knew it was going in and least he was You know aware of it straightforward. So I like that. Okay. Yeah, I just it's no surprise. We all know that this entire game it was going to be those do going for each other. So why not just do it now and Wes is putting all the alliances in his back pocket. Anyway. Yeah Wes is a mastermind that guy like he's he's definitely a tough player dude, and like if you're on his bad side, you better be very cautious in your boobs because he's slick. Yeah. I'm excited to see how this season is going to go with all these tribunals. And with all these stalemates that's happening in the elimination like teams are going to have to start working together a lot more in the tribunal's everybody. Every partnership seems to be out for themselves right now. Yeah, and I mean Cam and Ashley didn't really have a choice. That's why they did the burner on Amanda and Josh but it's if certain friends and alliances getting that tribunal things can definitely get a little wild. I think eventually it's going to come down to that, you know, and they're going to start realizing that especially the newbies it'll get there eventually, you know, it's inevitable. It's the challenge. JH. Yeah, let's do a little segments. We talked about a lot this episode but favorite comic relief moment. Man me on the spot. I gotta like think I literally just pulled this segment Adam in you go first. Let me think I'm going to say boy time group therapy session at the boys club in the Boys Room. It felt like summer camp when it's like Leroy Wes bananas Zack and they're all basically just talking about their emotions. They're all in their feelings all in this circle and I just thought it was crazy that Wes had to stand up and basically defend Zach two bananas who Wes is trying to take bananas out of the game. But then Wes has to defend the actions of somebody else in the game to say that they weren't against who he's trying to take out and like this is just ridiculous. Why does West have to make excuses for anybody and why are all these guys sitting around basically crying like hashing out there feeling great. I don't know it was funny. Well, I guess the piggyback off of you then Jen that does make a good point. I think. You know Zack look very much like a little boy like with his head down. Yeah, most of the episode, you know what I mean? It was so that to me is kind of funny because you do remind me of like a little kid who did something wrong and he felt bad, you know, so that's kind of funny because you get again you got these grown man and yeah, they are kind of hash out their feelings and you know, like, oh he didn't do this and he's no he's not a bad guy and say yeah, so I agree that's kind of funny. Yeah. Also shout-out another good one is Cam calm down mom without Maddie and Kyle because all Funny though. She always he always let her live her best wife in The Meta comes over now. I have ketchup in my mouth because I just made out with Kyle and then the STD comment to I mean, honestly Kyle kind of been, you know, he's moving through these challenges. What kind of mood you think it is to make moves on your new partner. I think that's my opinion. Especially this early is stupid, right because something goes wrong or you know, these feelings starter just gets weird. You lose your focus. Your intent should be obviously be there to win to obviously do the best you can for not only yourself but your partner and get this get this money, you know, so it could work in their favor. It could make them better together could make them care about each other more have better communication everything's out on the table, but just knowing Kyle and knowing his track record and he seems to kind of hit it and quit it hop around between girls in the house that could be very detrimental to their relationship if he keeps up that kind of Playboy. Yeah. I mean, I'm no I'm all for Get close to the partner know them. I mean even if you want to flirt whatever have fun cool, but I mean as far as going all board full in like that's a dangerous ground at least this early on in the game. Yeah. Keep your focus so predictions. And The Relic so he the teaser for next week and it does seem like Kyle and Polly really can't help but get in fights with each other. But all I see is a Kyle with pigtails go ahead. But why are headbutts becoming the new staple fight of the challenge? We saw Sylvia do it to Marine last year and now All car or Kyle's taking it over with pigtails and all what do you think are you can if you're going to take a man seriously coming at you. It's because wearing themed outfits, so I guess there's some kind of theme going on. Yeah, probably, you know, I don't know. I mean I enjoy it. I love watching the rivalries. It's fun. Obviously keeps a challenging start. Yeah, I know. So what are your predictions for next episode as far as who's going home or anything? They thinks going to happen. We see that there's a double elimination. We see there's a themed t a fight no idea. Seriously. I don't know there's like so many things that just get thrown at you. So I don't know like I mean the double elimination already is like, okay, like what the hell are we doing? You know, so I don't know man. I think a team in the tribunal is not gonna be able to make a decision. There's going to be a stalemate and one of them are going to have to go in and then forcing a double elimination really possibly that's interested unless they want to purge because maybe there's too many people. What you do see TJ say there's too many teams. So this is a double elimination. Yeah, that's interesting. Okay. All right, I can ride with that. Okay, obviously, I'm like, I don't even know you keep it going and keep going for your going to think if there's now the bananas is out if there was another head honcho another big targets to get out of the game. Who do you think most people are going to be trying to get out of the house? I mean, obviously it's going to be a Wes is the big guy. You know, I like to see T kind of just rides back. Yeah, he's so I think he's in a cool spot, but I think obviously would be it's going to be like a Kyle poly or Wes one of those guys. Yeah, it's really hard because I think a lot of the guys are scary. I don't know if anybody's going to touch Paulie and ninja yet because ninja is obviously a force don't know what girls gonna be able to take her out don't know if people are going to touch Ashley and cam yet. I think I'll especially because car is like, you know, basically he wasn't loyal to Zack when they're competing since she's like, oh I'm going to tell him so I think you know and he's already got kind of a bit of a Target on his back. So I think I think Kyle might be one they could own that is a good one. Actually now, they say caracara and Theo might be a good one. She's because there's so many car is badass but there's so many good pairs in this season that it's yeah. It is. It's really almost isn't even probably top five and teams. You know. Whoo. Whoo. Whoo, that's a bold statement. I wonder if people are gonna go Josh and Amanda just because they want to get the toxicity. I would just Amanda say right, you know, sorry Josh, but you know, like I think unfortunate for him. I think that just you know by default, you know, it's gonna happen. Well guys, this is the time of the show where I tell you to tell us what you think and make sure you comment who you think is going to be the partnership. That's the hardest to compete against for the rest of the episode or the rest of the season. If you think that there's a certain team that the other teams are going to try to get out of the house quickest and what do you think? Going to happen with those double elimination, but the next time this has been our recap for episode three casualties of War. My name is Jenna bussiere. Thank you everybody so much for tuning in. I'm on Twitter and Jenna underscored bussiere. Shout out Pam and Dan we missed you tonight, but DPR was with me as well. We hung in there Jim. 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