What's your favorite scary movie? We've got to on Voltron tonight to straight-up terrifying episodes for two very different reasons. And we also have two very special guests. So stay tuned after the opening and team. It's time to form Voltron you're tuned in to AfterBuzz TV the ESPN of tv top now, look there's a little bit of discussion here as to whether or not alien actually had a a theme every wonderful engineer in the booth found it. Yeah, it's real creepy. It's so good. I'm so happy. Absolutely good choice, here are fight you guys. It's just it's all Ambiance and horror. Hmm. Eautiful. There's beautiful got the genius. Yes. Hello everyone. Welcome back. We are the AfterBuzz TV Voltron legendary Defender after show. We are having a grand old time tonight with the Terrors that stock on spaceships and Destroy planets. It's great. It's wonderful. Me I have green lion Megan Salinas. Hey everybody. I am black lion Katie column. I have two very special guests tonight. We have a Christine ban. Well, yes. Hello. Hello. Can I can I be the Blue Lion for this episode or what? Are we agreed to get AB lion or time? We had all the way but at this point a little scattered so Sub in for the blue line, yes, your prop and background director for the season and we have Eugene Lee our director for this first episode and for other episodes in the season. Hello everybody. How are you doing tonight? Good, super good. Just trying to stay warm after this crazy rain, right? Yeah, and everyone in La is like, oh it's raining and everyone in Seattle's like so yes, I actually love it because I'm from Seattle. So for me, I'm like I wake up in the morning and I'm like, it's raining. Mmm. Yes, so you just get mad at everyone who can't drive. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. It's a legitimate reaction. You know, anyway Regional humor. Thank you for joining us tonight. Thank you everyone in the chat everyone who is listening and listening to and watching this later on. We are doing season 8 episode 3 and 4 the prisoner's dilemma and battle scars. And as always we have a little bit of business to lay down beforehand. We have the hashtag ABT Voltron if you've got anything fun or if you have links or art that you want to send us, they don't exist in the chat. They do exist in the hash. Tag, we've also got the live chat that we're keeping an eye on if you would like to be a part of the show and as always we have our brand-new season seven and eight rule implemented be nice or get out. You cannot we encourage you to have viewpoints. We encourage you to express your viewpoints politely and respectfully and if you fail to do that, you will be banned. You don't get Second Chances. Good night everybody. That's that is how this works. So for the most part, When the chat has been super great like our Tavern has some great people but it also has some diligent bouncers. So enjoy I want to talk a little bit about your guys roles before we swing into the episode. So Christine tell us a little about what a prop and background director does on an animated show sure sure. So basically I oversee a team of super talented designers and together. We kind of brainstorm design ideas off like the script stage. Age and off the animatics and so for my particular job, I oversee the designs for the all the environments that you see in the show, and as well as the props so that could be anything as small as like a spork massive girl wrote Cruiser. So it spans the whole whole thing. And let's see anything else. That's the most interesting design. That's come down the line for you whether or not you've been able to Approve it or had to send it for revisions. Right? Right. Um, well definitely making Voltron himself was one of the biggest challenges. I think it was one of the you know more complex designs in our show because he is a man made out of five robots. I mean, so there's a lot of kind of like technical details that we had to hammer out. Can you scoot the mic a little closer to you? Oh, yeah. Sorry my car. Yeah, we can hear you just fine, but the pilot. People at home are like and never had that problem for people. I was like she Christine tell the mic your secrets. We'd love to hear them. But yeah, I think on top of the Voltron design being complex. It was also one of the first big things that we built on the show in CG and so that was kind of its own, you know challenge, but luckily, you know, we had Joachim Andre you and Lauren and together. I think we really Came up with something that we could all be proud of. Is there a really big difference in the design process between the designs that you build into T. And the designs that you build in 3D? Yes, and no, I mean generally speaking designs are kind of just a blueprint for the people that kind of come after us in the pipeline. So it's a way for us to kind of visually explain, you know, what's going on. So for example, if it's a if it's a spaceship or something like that, you know, we're We're essentially creating the blueprint for that whether it's going to be built into built in 2D, you know by an animators hand or whether it's going to be built in CG, you know, like a model or something like that. Basically, it's the same idea but there are like little little things that are different, you know from 2D to 3D and one of the things that was really interesting with Voltron. It's kind of a two and a half D show so we have a lot of hand-drawn animation as well as CG animation and hand-drawn backgrounds with 3D ships and stuff being composited on top of that. So yeah, it's a it was a really really cool experience. So it was difficult to find a balance between the 2D and 3D. Is there anything different you have to do between them or is it just yeah, I think we had like a time limit on CG actually so we can only include like was it like seven minutes to CG or some I think it's like seven minutes to CG right per episode. Yeah, and there's some episodes where there was. No CJ. At all, there's like no liens and no boltron. And then we sometimes were like, hey, you know Studio Mir like we you know didn't have any CG in this episode. Why not a little bit over seven minutes this time. And so they're they're usually games so like yeah, I think those are some of the interesting rules I guess. Yeah totally so and you know, actually, I'm sorry. Oh, sorry. I was wondering if that includes the transformation sequence every time since that's technically reused animation know I guess that doesn't count right so I would hope yeah That's not the same thing CG and then one minute of Ultron doing his thing. Yeah, I mean no, it's actually different every time. Yeah, it's hand-animated every time you know, so each time a team people just get exhausted at the Vance did find a differences. so, you know with the budget of our show, we only had kind of like a certain amount of 3D assets that we could create and then but sometimes we would be like well, okay, we only have a budget to make like one ship this season for example, right but then you know, we'd want like two or three ships or Write that and so the rest of the ships were we plan to do in 2D, like traditional Styles and Studio Mir was so awesome that a lot of times they would just be like, yeah, this wasn't in the budget but like Dario we built this for you. Anyways, here's a ship this ship looks great and you know because it saves, you know, having to draw something as intricate as this giant like kind of like battle cruiser and whatnot. I mean from all these different angles and stuff like that. Yeah. Nobody wants. Yeah, nobody. Wants to do that. Yeah, so easier just to have the model and be able to rotate. Yeah, totally and you can fly the camera around and get more Dynamic shots and stuff like that. So Chad is demanding a Voltron Spork. OK the spork. I feel like we did. Well we have we have ltalian Cutlery. So that's close. That's yeah, it's close. I mean, they they for some reason the fork and the spoon and the knife. Are you Reversal utensils, you know thousands of years ago Ancient Aliens. Why not Chopsticks? How come the all teams doing is Chopsticks? So true. I'm sorry you're doing on our department. And now it's a color-changing Spork. I y'all are on fire tonight. Just like stick it in your cereal and it becomes Voltron know. Hey, that's pretty cool. Like the sport just or combined five different sporks into giant spark. Yeah what could 5? Sporks find a form Taco Bell. Sure. All right and Eugene, let's talk a little bit about directing for the show in general and for this particular episode because you gave us a full-on horror movie this time around wait cue the alien music it's the engineer out this but it was fun because I think more recently I've actually been getting into a lot of horror movies. So especially Have you guys seen hereditary like uh-huh, dude, that movie was so good. So so creepy in every single way. But it's one of the most effective horror movies. I've seen in a long time because like the entire runtime is just uncomfortable intense up until that ending but that's a discussion forum for sure What's this called hereditary? Okay. I mean, I'll never watch it. I'm scared of scary things you you get me. It's all fun and games until you have to go to bed at night and turn the light off. Yeah, definitely. I was channeling a lot of well hereditary came after I think I worked on this episode, but just any kind of horror movie. I watched I just put it on, you know worked on this episode and like creep myself out a little bit sometimes late at night, but I was also actually watching an old episode that I did Crystal Venom, which also was kind of, you know a little whore You and poor Lance and all of them. They always kind of end up in some kind of whore situation. So yeah, Crystal Venom. Was that the one where the ship that was? Yes, I was gonna say cause like, I love the the in back wait with that was season one. Oh, yeah. I love that. That one was very much a very Event Horizon ask sort of horror movie. Oh, yeah, and that this one it is more. Or alien sort of scary movie. Yeah, totally definitely definitely. Yeah. Yeah, it's you have a penchant for horror movies and I guess I guess I did they all land on me for sure make sense of so, what's your favorite scary movie? I think hereditary for sure like most recently. That's the one I could think of like off the top of my head. I would definitely sticks with you for sure loved it follows. It falls is great. Yeah. Worst marketing campaign and this is not a story for tiny children, but it's definitely a story of Katie embarrassing herself a Comic-Con. Thank you her there for this there were you know how sometimes people will be hired to hand out merchandise and just swag and whatnot from a movie that's coming up. Well, I was at a party for I want to say Resurrection F of all things DBZ movie and there's these two ladies advertising it follows and handing these things out and I'm like, oh it's a matchbook. And I didn't open it and I didn't think about it and I threw it in my swag bag to be filtered on Sunday night before I went home so sudden that I'm going through. Oh, yeah, give me a match stick and I opened it. It was not a Matchstick was a condom. Oh right on. Yeah. Okay. Gotcha. It's a great advertising for that was a pretty good marketing campaign. Let's say that the story was not safe for younger children. I'm gonna cover that. Definitely not. Yeah, but I've never really seen the sorry don't know I was going to say I've never seen the movie but I think Eugene recapped it for me when we were working together because I was like, I'm too scared to see it, but I'm curious about what it's about. It means that Wikipedia. Yeah. I feel like I've like usually the type just like just tell me the ending. I'm yeah, I'm always like please spoil this for me. So I know it's coming that that is how we do things like oh there. It's a movie Megan's gonna go see it and I'm going to be there when she gets home tell me about it. Yeah, exactly or like, you know with all the you know, kind of like a true crime things that are out right now on Netflix and whatnot. And I always liked after if I watch the first episode and I get hooked. I always get on Wikipedia to see like what actually happened because I'm like, I just can't stand the I can't stand the suspense because they dragged it out for like ten. Yeah exactly. I'm not gonna sit here for ten hours and be terrified. I want to know okay, I do you feel like you could fill 10 hours with the Golden State killer. Oh, absolutely, but there are some where it's just like this is a two hour show and that's a 10-hour series. Why? Why why? Yeah, what do you really want to know who did the thing uh-huh back to horror movies and the show ya what influences did you bring into this episode? I'm assuming alien. Yes, definitely alien was on my list too because obviously it was dealing with a giant alien almost looks almost like a xenomorph to your little bit lack of is yeah, but it's been a minute just horror movies horror movies think a cool distinction that it has is obviously the xenomorph is an alien and it doesn't talk. It's just right. All right this alien right had a way of commute like it had a really creepy way of being able Communicate what it wanted and it was it was really really well done. Hmm and being able to interface with technology instantaneously makes it a horror show on a ship definitely had access to everything right? It could tweak the Tweet the cameras. Yeah. It was super fast. Scary. Yeah, totally just throwing a little Five Nights at Freddy's there to can't trust the cameras either running out of power things are going to eat you and wait and Then the narrow Escape at the end, you know, oh, yeah, and then under the piece of metal, you know, get stuck down to the hole or whatever your we got away and then it blows up. I was half expecting him, you know, like no, I mean not really but you know part of me was like, is he gonna come back like did he survive or something? Yeah, take care. That's all exactly. That's what right? Yeah, exactly always in an airlock or something but wasn't an air lock. They're either getting blown up inside the airlock or the character stay on the ship and the monster gets sucked out, right? Yes, man, speaking of explosions. I thought just from a visual point of view the effects were really awesome in this mean. So he removed the mirror always does a great job. Yeah effects. They just they hand draw all that stuff. It's absolutely beautiful. Yeah, definitely. Definitely one of the things that really stood out to me. It was it was just a little thing but watching it this time around just seeing the the different display the monitor displays when a Laura is in the blue lion, and I was just looking at it. I was like, I don't know why but this just looks so gorgeous. Wow. Thank you on behalf of And I was like is it always this pretty I was like this looks really good. We made some minor tweaks in the later Seasons from the like from the first season just to kind of make them look a little bit more like intricate. And in the first season, we kind of had this effect happening where you weren't seeing a lot of that depth where whatever and then in towards I think probably somewhere in our season 2 Well, anyways, our comp team was able to kind of make all these like cool effects. So all of the my personal favorite screens are the ones in like the big Atlas ship. Yeah, like the orange the orange screens for some reason. I don't know why if it's like the color or the you know, whatever but there's always another some more like Earth Technology. Also, yeah. Yeah, that's more like little bit more familiar and I've been martyred. Yeah, exactly exactly designs on the show of always been spot on that the bit that stood out to me and this was a while ago and it continues to is the fact that the lions are weathered. They're not like tiny and freshly painted and whatnot. It's like I know you can see where their pain is chipped in their dens and their Battle Scars and I absolutely love that. Awesome. Thank you. Yeah, I mean, we that's something that we kind of. Really wanted to do and you know walking him and Lauren were like, you know, we don't want them to look like they just rolled out of the factory. There's thousands and thousands of years old and you know, they've seen some stuff. I want to say the first pass had like even more weathering probably right? Yeah like a lot of whether yeah. Yeah, we pulled it back a little bit just so that it wouldn't be distracting and so that the, you know, so that they wouldn't look to beat up. So we kind of tried to hit a middle ground where you know, they do have some scuffs and dings like you were saying but They're not. Yeah, they're not all the way there. It looks good enough that you're like, oh, you know magical space robots. This is really cool. But then you you notice some chinks in the armor. So to speak and then yeah, it's just like I remember the first time noticing it was like wow, they really detail-oriented when they worked on this but yeah, if you're watching the transformation sequence, you're just like, oh cool magic space robots. This is awesome. Yeah, totally. I think they're all so shiny and chrome and then you watch them just run it. Two things and get bullied. Yeah. Yeah. Alright. Yeah. Ok. This makes sense, right? Yeah. Exactly. I'll tan paint is very destructive. Yeah, keep getting scarf. You see they got a clear coat on them or something and protecting it from getting further alleges that they didn't really coat to well. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, you know you got you yeah exactly you gotta you gotta whack. As lines like once a year, you know, make sure everything's working out for didn't wait for the paint to finish drying before. He's like, okay everybody. We're going for a test drive. Yeah guys guys. We have Lions. Why do we have Lions? Why not? Yeah, why not? Yeah, exactly. Like that's half of all tie in alchemy's just like because look good. Why not? Yeah. I think that was one of my favorite things about the flashbacks was like nobody questioned him about the Lions. I mean, I figure the Reason is because the guardian of Orion was a lion and that's kind of where it came from just like all right, somewhere deep in the recesses of all fours mind. It was like, why is my name is our protectors? That's cool. I mean, I feel like it's Alpha had a spirit animal. It could be a lion he um, he kind of looks like a lot. Yeah. Yeah, he's got the main of gorgeous Plush Hair. He's got a lion Petronas. Yeah. Yeah, he does see this, huh? Like what's some I don't know what's like goofier. I feel like it's a lion or it's some like really good golden retriever. Sure first word fair enough. This is great podcast. Great podcast have a visual component for sure. Yeah. Yeah, that's absolutely how that works in. 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God I love this episode me. I do I love that. We open up prisoner's dilemma with seeing how Atlas and the Voltron Coalition work. I love that. We see this well-oiled machine moving at an Agora base and all the different pieces of the puzzle that work together to take it down about as peacefully as you can get honestly. Yeah, totally. I feel like this is probably the fifth one that they went to and they just got open fire like usual because that's was not surprised. He was like, well, that was fast. Yeah, right. Yeah, I guess like garlic probably don't really, you know take you know, peace treaties very well. But hey, let's work together like no open fire. Yeah. Shoot first ask questions later. Yeah, I mean Victory or death. Yeah, right. No, I know actually love. We find out that the this guy lieutenant or warlord Lon now like kind of has like a personal Vendetta thing. So Voltron shows up knocking at his door. He's like, oh get out of here. You had your chance? Yeah exactly. I mean, I guess guys again from from his POV like they were missing for like two years, right? So it's like where they go like they were cool and like God I have to fend for myself and dude Voltron ghosted. And then finally they were like, okay. Yeah, what we'll do that and then Voltron Just Bounce It goes it didn't respond to any called Galactic texts or whatnot. Yeah later. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I'm just picturing that one Wolverine meme with him and that was it like a drink. Okay, guys, we need those now. Yeah, someone is going to photoshop. This is a result of it and please put it on. I want to see it. Yeah, he can he can join lotor. Just checking your social media from the void. Yeah, so I'm for not surprised to see that lawn is not happy to see them there and very much insist on I have been promoted. I am a warlord and we are not friends. I don't need you anymore. Exactly. I we don't need you. Yeah, thank God you weren't there. You didn't support me power. But later on for myself later on he's like, all right, I guess you guys are cool. Yeah water into the fridge. Yeah, one of the things we're still X's but now we can be friends what I think that's probably my favorite aspect of this episode though is how much the narrative makes you feel bad for Lon like it doesn't justify any any of the bad things that the gall red has done in any way shape or form and obviously there's a lot of infighting going on, but you guys I made a really good point of humanizing him and like making it so that like he's never known peace and his entire life and you really feel for the guy, you know, he's worked hard for several years now to try to make sense of all the chaos and the second Voltron comes back it all kind of crumbles. Yeah, like he's carved out his own little piece of the Galaxy. This is his base. He's hung up and he's hung a little sign and put out his Ali go away mad. And then we'll trunk shows up and refuses to read the go away on the mat. Just hey, you should totally join the neighborhood watch. It's great never responded. Don't get a second chance. Yeah, I can't just like Walton and expect lawn to just welcome them back with open arms. He doesn't want to be part of this homeowners association. That sucks you had an ex that like ran into you and they were canvassing like you want to give them the time of day. No, that's exactly right now totally nice. Read, oh, I'm sorry. That's pretty much what's happening here. I would say I think on is pretty sympathetic. Yeah, I mean he has that one great moment with a lure aware. He's kind of talking about like all he's worked for like it's just been decimated, you know, just like looking out and just seemed to Pure destruction. Yeah of what this alien did I mean, I guess at this moment doesn't know but you know, yeah, there's a good moment when you when the audience kind of sympathizers for Lon I feel like and I guess when Alaura sympathizers to but was just like I won't have any of it. Yeah. Yeah, you can see the pain in his eyes, you know, he's been burned and I love that Elora is reaching out the best way she knows how finding common ground finding sympathy. You know, I've lost everything too but I found it with and just his reply about you always had power handed to you. You've always had what you wanted handed to you. You've never had to fight for it. You've never been through what I've been through we are not alike and we don't usually see a Laura's attempts to reach out thrown into her face. Like that, they get thrown in her face a lot but not in this specific Manner and so it's a bit of a shock like hey consider things from the cholera side, you're trying to bring them around. Maybe come to understand him Mmm Yeah, he was he was kind of right right like yeah. He spoke some truths about Alaura. Yeah. I love the camera angles in that in that scene to you know, it's classic filmmaking when you're when you shoot a character from a lower angle. It makes them more imposing and that's exactly it is the camera looking down at ellora and looking up at long because it's like he he has a point here. He doesn't necessarily have the moral High ground, but he has a point producing that I'd board. That's well done. Just like put a gold star. Yeah Megan School star. Yeah her reply about you want that the Coalition can give it to you in a way. Other than violence. It's like alright Counterpoint other way to relate to him and just the light coming over Lon that point. Yes, totally. Yeah, but the Katie Goldstar, okay, but that is Bala see. You want to explain to the users what that is. I assume that everybody who's watching his taking a high school literature class. Everyone should know I assume nothing. Okay. Well, it's just when the weather in a scene or like that the setting reflects what's happening emotionally. It was a dark and stormy night. Yeah writ large and there's your the more, you know start but yeah, we get to see so much from war. Our lawn and just him that slow progression and then his declaration at the end of yeah, we're joining the Coalition and not I order you to do the same. It's I'm doing it and I encourage you all to do it. Yeah, and I love that what that says about him as opposed to. All right new law. Let's go. Yeah, I mean he's kind of also I guess indirectly learned it from Keith, right? I mean, there's nothing Keith can forcibly do to make him join him. But I mean he kind of like he saves him. Him and then through that maybe I think Lauren also a little learned a little bit from that action, you know, like like these guys aren't so bad. Like maybe you guys should join in with us like they're they're not bad. They're not bad people. So it does a really good job of leading by example, he does. Yeah, and it's watching Keith's character Arc through this whole series And just seeing him come. I'm I'm probably going to talk about this like every single time we keep moment over this season, but when did he become such a good leader and let you can take him and compare him to even just two three seasons ago and go. Yeah. No, this is not the same guy who bailed to go do his own thing. He's a very different person now and it all feels organic. He had a really great some pie right here. Oh, I mean sorry dropping Japanese here, but this fandom knows what senpai Yeah, it really gets some pie and he went on a great road trip with mom. Exactly. Yes say yes, you know kind of I'd like barbecuing with Mom. Thanks Fetch and building a house and doing all those things are dogs. We're getting a dog out totally puppy that's happening building a career more than once the most practical puppy in the universe. Yeah and a good good boy such a good boy. the best boy Wow, my train of thought just died. We all thought about having a teleporting wolf in our lives. Yeah. Yes exactly. I commute would be so much easier. Yeah, one of the hosts outside right now brought their puppy into the studio. And so I'm thinking about that puppy and I'm like Oh, I wanna pet him but can that puppy teleport? I don't think so. But then what's the point? I guess your move puppy. Step it up a notch or two Eugene has a pretty cute puppy. I do. Yeah, I just gotta I just got a puppy. I've been posting a lot a lot of it a lot of his a lot of my stories are of him. So he's a German Shepherd. Yeah eight months. He's a lot of energy a lot of energy. I don't know if it's visible on my face, but I'm super tired but all worth it all very worth it. So German Shepherd usually are a lot of energy. But yeah my I got are they cute - are adorable. I met him when he was gosh. I don't know I think like two three months. Yeah three months or so and he's just 15 pounds. It was all papaw's and just skating around on the floor and big big ears pointy ears and stuff is amazing. So 66 pounds now, so yeah still puppy. Yes. Okay, but almost the size of Cosmos not quite not quite but it's really funny when you get a big dog because they Grow up really fast, but like mentally they're still puppies and they yeah, they don't necessarily understand how like Bigbang she doesn't yeah total doesn't how districts that can be I can still fit on your lap. Right? Right. That's good. Yeah, but I'm sure Keith kind of had to deal with that too right with Cosmo just not really understanding his size teleporting on top of him. Just not understanding. What fetches yeah, please explain that moment when you're trying to teach a dog with probably human level intelligence to fetch. Yeah. He got the hang of it. He did he fetches Keith enough. Yeah, that's true. I have no good segue for this but we should talk about the horror movie parts of this just being on the actual ship the distress call that comes through the The slow build into all right. Well Voltron will go will go take care of this and seeing the ship's decimated finding the only sign of Life way down at the end with the only ship that's vaguely intact. Yeah, see if I were Voltron at that moment that is when I would be like guys, I think this is a bad idea distress Beacon coming from that ship and it's all scary looking clearly. They had distressed. There's no distress anymore. We're good. Yeah, we're good. Yeah, this is I think this is fine guys. We should turn around look at home have to make a good impression for our guests careered on the movie or the horror movie aspect of it. All there's actually a little conversation that lank uh lack but Lance and hunk had a moment where you know, where Going down the the dark Corridor and stuff in the script previously. They had a conversation about half open doors and how in every horror movie half open doors are a bad sign never opened the door and it makes discuss to the other side and they just open the door but sadly, you know, like we know we're seeing count and time like you kind of have to cut that scene, but that was like a little moment that I like to you know, just kind of pointing out the horror movie tropes. It's really opened doors. Nothing good ever came from looking through a half-open door. But they open the door and then be like, oh, Ron Fugu ends are super genre Savvy. There's no way they wouldn't know like, all right, we're walking into a horror movie. This is bad. I want to give a quick shout-out to princess Ponies on Twitter who got gave us some lawn fanart about long looking at you didn't answer my texts. Maybe TV Voltron. Oh my God, that is amazing amazing. That's so fast. It was going on here. Oh, yeah princess Ponies is always super on point. That's hilarious. That is great. I love it. I love it. So, yeah, definitely check out the hashtag and again the hashtag lives forever. We will see it. Thank you princess Ponies. You always give us such good things. Thank you. Yes, but why movies I really love the design of this because to me it looks like a digimon combined with a xenomorph and I love that. We got a payoff for something that happened. What was that like a season and a half ago two seasons for like two seconds right up. Here's 40 seconds. And then we gotta pay off here in the final season. I was so happy about that. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like we're always trying to find things to know to like tie things back together. And this was a really good. Going to tie back the alien and rannveig super weapon and kind of just tie and all the stories together. And yeah, I mean, it's always fun for me to do horror four episodes. So now I'm always down for any horror oriented storytelling for when it comes to non horror genres. I love when they dip their toes into horror, but I also love in children's media and I've said this on many and on many an afternoon. - oh, I really love winning children's media actions have consequences. Yes. Oh, yeah, they were able to escape but there were consequences to what they, you know to releasing that monster, right? And there's this girl rumor during Beast that is probably a little crazy if it's been experimented on as much as Keith implied that's running around on this base. So it's a little nuts very big ridiculously strong. Very smart. Yeah and can Faced with technology like like all right. Well, I want this this this this and so it can't tell the difference between friend and foe we might have made a mistake. I knew I forgot something on the customization box. I didn't hit that Ticky box before I pushed send you think that matter ha ha ha it'll be fine that it arrives in the mail and rip your face off. Yeah. Guess it matter. The xenomorph mail service. Hmm, what would that be called? But that's definitely something going to definitely run by Weyland-Yutani. That's for sure. Yeah, who are the car Empire? What is postage like in the car Empire? Hmm. I think it's like punctual. I am now picturing like you know, how we had the mall security. Yeah. Yeah. I'm picturing a postal delivery person just like that. Yeah, and I would love to know what their day is like. Yeah. I'm time delivery our honorable combat. Yeah. There you go. Yeah. There we go. There we go. I think instead of having that poster of zarkon in his locker. He has a poster of low tolerance. Is beautiful. Yeah, totally. I mean the number of shampoo commercial jokes that we made when we were on the show regarding LaTour. I think we just I mean you can't okay answer he's got his one little like he's got the wig stylist nightmare. Yeah cosplayers in the show like watching Shiro throughout the ages going. All right, I got one. Right. Now I need to do. Oh my God a solid color weight stairs at that arm. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Anyways, those the ultimate we see you cosplayers. Good luck. Yeah. We have some some really good cheering cosplays. Yeah with the you know, I guess they're just, you know, kind of wearing their thing. Oh, yeah. Yeah, but just out of curiosity. Would she Rose arm in in these last two seasons count as a prop? Sign or does that count more as character designer? She was armed with designed with the with his character. Okay. Yeah, I wasn't sure if that counted as a proper not right, right. Yeah. I'm actually trying to remember now to I mean it was definitely designed with his character. I was just wondering if I'm trying to remember if we did anything properly added to it. But yeah, I don't think so this thing that you worked on multiple years ago. There's too many designs. Yeah. Yeah. It's a lot of designs and they're all pretty dang great. So we have the homicide monster. We have Lance and hunk lucky to be alive like the upside of this is that it focuses only on its prey and isn't interested in collateral damage. So we're not quite at xenomorph levels yet, but like unlike a xenomorph. This thing is able to manipulate information out of people study knows. Oh all the goal. We are on planet Riker cool. That's where I'm heading and just the ability to Talk through the centuries again. So so creepy. Yeah, the century stuff was really neat. Yeah. That was I mean, he was the one that was saying the your Tom Barry Nexus, right? So he's just trying to trick people to you know, go over there. Yeah, and then catch hitch another ride and yeah never answer a distress signal that just don't think that is the that's immoral. Yeah, we learned from this episode. Well, at least if you're half Garen you get a little bit he gets little bit confused. Like there's like a pause, you know, he's not he didn't immediately jump at Keith, right? Yeah. He's just like what are you and then say Oh wait, I think your guard so he goes with the teleporting and the I think this is the first time that we get a beam cannon from a bam. Yeah. Actually, yeah. Yeah, so that was really cool like Keith kind of like switching with Lance a little bit and you know shooting the Jan laser laser gun. This was definitely an episode kind of showcase like some Bayard upgrades and I think Keith was on this episode. So like he got the he got the cool Janet beam. So yeah and just conceptually it's such a cool idea because I you know, we keep talking about Xenomorphs, but normally you're throwing Xenomorphs out of a hole in the ship or out of an airlock. Lock it's such a cool idea to use, you know, the decompression in deep space t scape from the mom. Yeah, like throwing the monster out of the ship. Yeah, that was really that's really actually came from because logistically when I was boarding that scene I was trying to figure out how to get them out faster and I was like, they're just they're covering this long-distance. Like how did they die like, oh, hey Keith can just blow up the wall and then they could just fly it or get sucked out and I was like, okay, I'll just do that. And I guess it works and it was like a convenient piece of debris that the speed what was just so cool to get sucked in. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. Really highlight tight spacing. Yeah right on their tail. Yeah, and I do want to say the I think the creature survives you see them. I don't know if it's very clear, but he does disappear. He survives. Okay. Good. Yeah in my mind. He survives I sympathize with all the creatures something something Illuminati confirmed. But I was going to joke if Sendak was still floating around in space. I would say like the creature found the pod. Sendak was fat. And so that would be funny to see actually just send a quick email by go. Yeah, there we go. He's like five more minutes. This is too much chat is halfway between so happy at this development and screaming into the void. So the creature is Jason. Thank you Beast Wars fan. Jason didn't go to space. I'll do some x-rays. Yeah, that was I've never seen the movie but I like I heard about that movie through a friend like Jason goes to space. I'm like what no way and I read the premise I was like, wow, this is crazy. Hey, just watch the killed. Yeah. I think it's fun. It's not a good movie. But it's fun. It's fun. Yeah. Yeah. That's the same reason. I like Cloverfield paradox. It's not a good movie. But I love it. Oh, man. Yeah that movie is not great. It's a thing. It's a hot mess. You know. Hey, I enjoyed it. Cloverfield has a super special place in my heart and therefore I'm biased and that movie is ridiculous. But I love it. Yeah, and for everyone asking whether or not we're going to cover the next episode we have extra time tonight. Yes. Yeah. Yes. Oh, thank the studio. Thank you Engineers. Thank all these lovely human beings who enable us to The show and again, you know follow the channel. Thank you notification. Yes. Tell the people at AfterBuzz how much you love them because ya know he have a long episode tonight so we can talk all they want. Mmm-hmm. Ha ha ha ha speaking of is there anything else you wanted to say about this episode? Well, I would just like to thank you for staging so many hallway scenes because we got a lot of reuse out of we always are we had already designed so we always because you know, we we look at like the next couple of episodes in this kind of block and I knew that the next episode this is perfect segue into the next one was going to be a doozy as far as design was concerned because we needed to wreck up this entire city that you know, anyways, so it was nice. It's always To have like a little bit of a breather episode and this one was definitely one of them because all of the stuff that was shot like on the exterior and the interior of the of the governorship had already been done, right? There's just like a couple of rooms that you know, you had to kind of design right? Yeah, but they were all kind of dark you know it so it was it was fine. It was perfect. Yeah. So thank you Eugene. You're welcome. We're using the hallway the oh, yeah being economical is a staple of the horror genre Genre, oh, that's a lien and there sure are a lot of dark hallways all yes one room and then and then some other stuff but mostly one monthly one room. Yeah, I mean sometimes with some rules you have the most Freedom, right? So, yes, exactly. I think it does help sometimes to have some restrictions. Yeah. I totally agree. I mean I think to having that box or parameter or Her to work within like yes, like you're saying you I think sometimes you come up with more elegant or creative solution. Yes, for sure. And sometimes you just get a break. Yes. Sometimes you get always everybody goes home on time. It didn't happen often, you know animation. Yeah animation. You can't just leave in the middle of a hallway. You have to finish the hallway. Yeah, there's a door. Or it ends in darkness a lot of our hallways just kind of Fade Out in the darkness. It's and how long is this song way? I don't know. How long do you think it is? That's the dealer its interpretive you see Cruiser and we just have one main thoroughfare going from stem to stern cool. Yeah cool. Yeah. It's a long hallway and it's dark at both ends because we believe in purple aesthetic lighting and that doesn't go very far on that. Yeah. Well about the Colorado they are on brand. Yeah, they very much are Yeah, they're around brand. Which is why seeing all of these brobee's to happen is terrifying because they are murder pink piece. That is that's how we end this episode. Like we're joining the Coalition things are better. We looked at the ship's logs and hey, you know, they talked about a row b, so we should go try and find them. Oh, hey, it's that robeast. Let's launch one of them. Yeah, and then we swing into The Next Episode and get to see where it went. This was rough. Like this show is never steered away from darker territory, but like most of the time if a planet gets decimated, we don't really dwell on it. Right. It's like that was a thing that happened and now we need to keep going with the plot this we have to kind of sit with it the entire episode. Yeah the too. And it's that we really Linger on. Yeah, they are super destroyed and there are reasons are all Taya and Deimos all but for the rest of us like yeah, he's blown up some planets things have happened. There have been multiple Mass genocides. That's kind of how you call refer these past 10,000 years now and then we show up on all carian and we just get the beat by beat apocalypse and it is painful. Yeah. There's some great shots in that episode 2. I thought like A lot of the low angle just like Reiner in the foreground. Yeah, giant like roby's. I just felt scale felt really good in that episode. Hmm. You shout out to I think it's Michael, right? Michael director that episode. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I really appreciate whenever something feels like a Kaiju movie where you it's just Devastation and destruction. Yeah, and even though it's a giant robot like it feels like a force of nature here. Yeah. Well I can always appreciate. In my giant robot media that I love so much when you can get a really good sense of scale like yeah, we're so accustomed to these giant robot lions and then the giant robot person that the giant robot Lions make and when you have this moment of stepping back and going. Oh, yeah, they're really big like when that hits home, it's always really good to have that reminder and it's a really solid giant robot giant monster giant, whatever. Series that can make you feel that sense of scale and I've gotten that more than once across the multiple seasons of Voltron and it's just so well executed. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. I thought it was cool that we kind of saved it for this last season as well seeing an entire city that we are familiar with with characters who live in that world, you know facing the consequences of what's happening in real time or not. August not in real time as flashback, but you know We've seen like bits and pieces of the like you were saying of you know died was all and I'll tell you I be destroyed but we haven't really seen the whole city get kind of burned down to the ground exactly in front of our eyes type of things. So, yeah. I thought it was really neat. And I remember I remember when we launched the episode and design I went over to our in-house design team of William new and Arthur. Loftus shout out to you guys and they were there and were a huge part of Designing. I'll carry on from the first time that we saw it. Yeah, and so, you know, we were all in a room together and I was like, well, this is the episode where it's funny because they Each wrecked things that they had designed. So for example, William William designed a lot of the the architecture and whatnot that we see in the city and then Arthur did a really nice design of the wide kind of shot the establishing shot that we see of the planet and if you remember at the very end as the webcam is coming up and we see the planet Go Pro, you know and and totally break into pieces. And Arthur was like, um, can I do that Jean because there's more layers. Off to see all the multiple stages of Destruction. Yeah Arthur if you're watching this, it's well done. You made us feel things feel things. Yeah, and this this series tends to leave Pidge alone. And then when they focus on her it just kicks her in the teeth, right? Yeah, if there's a pigeon episode It's Gonna Hurt. That's true. Yeah, she's got some she's yeah, she's got some heavy episodes, but I feel like those are like My favorite episodes to like the one where she's like trying to find Matt. Oh gosh. Yeah good episode. Yeah. Well, I really It's like it's like when you sit down to watch the series do not look at the thumbnails for the next look away for 30 seconds. Don't do it this episode hits even harder because the last time you know, it was a page episode on I'll carry on it was there was obviously a lot of high-stakes stuff going on but generally speaking it was a really light-hearted episode where she's connecting with nature. Yes a bunch of stuff. I think that nature connection is what makes this even more devastating because the the planet was teeming with life and now everything's just completely desolated. Yeah, because it's not just we wrecked the architecture. We wrecked a civilization but it will eventually grow over and know we siphoned out the planet juice it's done. There's that really brilliant kind of wide shot of the city when the the roby's first comes down and lands and then takes the sickles out and then goes like this. Then you see the power like surging between the buildings. That's a great like scale shot as well. Yeah, because it's cool to see the Beast kind of in the surrounding. So you get a sense of like just how massive this thing is. Yeah, it's beautiful and it's so painful and just the knowledge that like because like looking at is like okay. This was clearly a robot that was designed to fight Voltron and at the end of the last season we were like, okay they made it to have something to combat Voltron with With like I I don't know why I didn't think about it. But like it never occurred to me that they would like that that type of robot that you know, in the middle of the giant robot fight that it would be capable of like sucking all the quintessence out of a planet which is exactly the golfers Mo oddly enough. And the last time we saw them take all the quintessence out of a planet it took this huge ship in this huge rig and multiple Druids and now it's just like Well, we've made we've redesigned It One Pilot in there and there's this brand new storage receptacle twice the capacity. You can take an entire planet. I am now a used car sales. Yeah, you have your ridiculously huge clunky 1.0 and then you have Planet juice extractor 2.0 it slices it dices. It doubles as a handy. Dandy murder machine. Wow, here we are. Keep wow, you sold that. Well, seriously, Get one of y'all. Available at what remains of our area also known as her nerve has used car lot. I'm amazed that Orion not only let everyone in but also just let her desecrate it that way just like every single one of these all Tans are worthy. It's fine. Yeah, and we're going to just destroy the guardian and do a smelting pit and just it's fine. Everything is fine. I feel like she just figured out a way to prop the door open. Without a hall pass that last time so honor of a break-in the rules and everyone sanity and half the Galaxy while she's at it because you can again we're back to I'll take a in engineering and what not. Why not? Why not? Why not murder an entire planet with only one robot makes for some final action shots? Then Giga Derek and Chad's has slapped out of the roby's this thing sucks like a black hole. Yeah. Yeah. I used to like puns and then I met Eugene. So yeah, I'm spacing out for a second, but that one's suck me back it hold it in. You know, okay. Yeah. All right. So Ariane, I want to see these to keep going we probably could but yeah to have another episode to talk about and it's beautiful and sad yeah. Actually, we probably should just do puns instead of just gonna make ourselves sad but we ate we start with oh web l'm is heading this way and web worms are known for destroying old planets and eating them, you know create a new ones in their wake web limbs man. I do I do appreciate also and I know how I mentioned that last episode I really liked the the payoff of the monster. I also really liked when in a final season you can make things. Back around where we didn't necessarily need to ever see a web bloom again, but it's cool that we brought it back. Yeah, and I love the returning gag of information from Congress and I was like, oh finally he's gonna tell like tell them straight like what the what the answers are, right? Yeah. Yeah, Koran that conversation took. Longwood and yet I learned nothing Ty has such great delivery. Yeah, whatever hunk has to be the straight man. Just that deadpan lights sarcasm just enough to have an edge. Perfect so good. Oh great. So good. Yeah absolutely amazing. But I love that we kind of have our a plot and B plot and are a plot is terrible trauma and our B plot is diverted the giant worm Tremors in space. Whoo Tremors in space. Yeah. I never thought about that. How about it that way? In space no one can hear you fight a web. L'm, you know extreme actually is the Tremors movie that does take place in space what I think it's like Tremors six. The only had like three wait, there's six Tremors. Six Tremors. Yep. Wait, how does it happen in space? I don't know because I got my sound right? I don't know. I think they're on the moon. I don't know. I haven't actually seen it. I stopped at three. I love me a good Tremors movie. I do two number ones the best although yeah, I really had no idea. There were six. That's no moon. That's a Tremor where I don't know what they're called graboids Gravely. I'm sorry. I'm still trying to wrap my brain around Tremors in space. Like if there's no atmosphere. How do you vibration? No, no, I will ask questions and they don't have answers and we don't need that in our lives. Oh my God, our Engineers looking eye primers because I've never seen that one. Hmm. Yes. We have this absolutely destroyed planet and just that little scene with Allura picking up a leaf and it crumbling to dust in her hands. It's just completely heartbreaking the music the sound design the lighting everything just comes together for this. Oh, yeah. This planet was left to complete rack and Pitch coming to terms with that and that I know this place this is where I was taught to bond with nature. This is where and then the planets. Not done with her. Yeah, I really liked this moment between a Laura and Pitch because if there's anybody who understands what it's like losing to lose a planet, it's a Laura so she understands what pitch is going through at this particular moment. I really like. Yeah. She's also far more in touch with the idea of being able to connect with a planet to connect with something that's not your species or your level of sentience or your whatever so she's kind of the perfect. Person to guide Pidge through this whatever you would call it. Salusa Nations spiritual journey. Someone else's memory. Yeah, she kind of like accepts it without question to you know, as as pigeons kind of getting the flashbacks and what not like she realizes that there's a connection there and I like seeing a Laura and Pidge have half time together always right the guys fight a worm on the girls go on a journey. Yeah Vision Quest. Yeah, but like, yeah, I definitely like the planet kind of like reached. Out it with its last breath. Like hey, this is all the information I have. Yeah, you know and here it is or try to give it to her in pieces, I guess. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's dying gasp. The I really also just appreciate any time. There's like a Ghost of Christmas Past like framing device for an episode where somebody's like literally looking into the past, but they can't interact with it. Yeah. It's it's a really it's a good way of creating drama because it's You're seeing something terrible happened, but there's nothing you can do to stop it. Yeah, and it's just painful to watch page try to interact and watch these people that she loves get utterly wrecked. Well and part of it is that she's convinced that it's Reiner Reiner Reiner. I think of Attack on Titan. When are you due writer? That's a that's a different Source. But yeah, so like she's convinced that Runners trying to tell her Or something specifically when the episode I think leaves it ambiguous about whether or not it was something Reiner was intentionally trying to do or if it was the planet. It's kind of left up to interpretation. Right? Hmm. I feel like it's the planet kind of showing her exactly where she needs to be to get the Salient points of the message. So Reiner may not have known but what's left of all carry-on is going that way over there, right and we're going to frame it just so it looks like she's talking to you perv. Gum, I mean she definitely bonded with like nature and the planet in which episode that was but while ago episode the Cuban for sure. Yeah agreed. Yeah. That's right. Oh really cute. Yes. Yes, please that. I remember that actually, it's a good title. Yeah it is it is it is but then finding out that the roby's came here to murder an entire planet Rob them and then leave like right. Yeah cabbage. Each very Savage. It's a back alley mugging writ large and took their stuff completely murdered them and then just left the corpse there. There is a silver lining though. Yeah that most everyone lived. Uh-huh. And even though it's really sad to see Reiner go like the the message that she leaves is very poignant, you know, the old gives way to the new our people have always been able to adapt and you know, yeah, there's no need to dwell on the past. Let's focus on the future. Yeah. So, you know the bit where the little girl gets on the spaceship and sad. Yeah, so odds are writer is probably still not around. I'm pretty sure she went down with the ship there. I don't know. I don't know. What do you think Eugene? All of so all the characters, I like in the show, even if they have like off-screen death or sometimes even on-screen deaths. I'm like, I'm just like no, I don't accept that. We didn't specifically say that this Burn just like yeah, I'll meet up with them. Yeah, do you guys remember Roger Ribbit from Roger rip? Oh, I don't think they know that from the episode was the episode called is the episode where Keith Keith and the blades going to take over the exact words can insist. Yeah, and then there was a there was a Star Wars Episode. There's a frog alien that gets blasted like to like, yeah, you you made him look briefly at yeah, that's right. Right. So anyways, his unofficial official name is Roger Ribbit because he's last lines. Were are no real Roger and then he ribbit's yeah, he rivets anyways, and then we call them Roger. Yeah, right, but I have I have a totally non-canon Theory where like you see, you know, you see the the whatever the blast like come in and you know, it wipes the frame and white and you know, yeah, of course like you assumed he dies, but really he really That the that that glow was not actually from an explosion. It was like somebody's brights that's turned on and their spaceship is actually rescue vehicle and he got kind of tractor beamed into this nice other ship possibly run the show pulled a Hocus Pocus. Yeah. Thank you ocean. It was head beam light and thank you help me out. Yeah, that's exactly what I'm trying to describe to use have wormholes. That's fine. Yeah. Thanks fine. So, yeah. Yeah, he's that the consequences of war and planets get destroyed and people die and you're over there. Like this is my happy place is saved at the last minute. He went home to mrs. Ribbit not know. He got he got blasted into another reality. Okay, that's fine. Sliders ask adventure to get back home to his tadpoles. Yep, dude. There's a joke here, but it's spoilers. I just I appreciate if in my opinion if Darth Maul can come back anybody can come did I seriously he got cut in half and felt like a bajillion stories. Yeah, seriously, sorry spoilers for anybody who hasn't seen his wounds. It real quick another shout-out to princess Ponies who did our color a delivery person and then she also did a quick sketch of Sendak waking up to the alien over here. So check out the hashtag ABT Voltron to check out that cool art princess Ponies your art. I love the little ones. Roger Rabbit is definitely at space Hospital. You know, he's still alive weight and you been in the other reality though, right? He's just a space Hospital space Hospital lasted to the original Voltron reality. He's was spent in reality where everything turns out, right? Yeah where he meets mrs. Rabbit and has to happen. Oh my gosh. Yes, that's true. Like he didn't. Have a mrs. Ribbit in this reality, but once he got blasted into spend reality, that's what yeah, exactly. Actually mrs. Rabbit is an ersatz pay sauce. Is she Frogger? She a nightingale? I'm sad. I made that pun. Oh no, and it was a bad joke. Says he croaks ribbiting ribbiting and the biogenic. Oh my God, you sound like this. This is why the studio doesn't usually give us extra time. We don't just go off the rails. We blow them up. Yeah, there are no rails in space. We need the jokes to make us feel better about the sad episode all the dead people and the dead planet. But yeah, just getting to see how theis how these murder machines function and then seeing. Okay. Well, they do Wormhole like we as the audience knew that but it's nice to see the information make the leap to the other side of the fourth wall and go okay. Now the characters know that we can work with that and also taking the cubes which were terrifying in the episode that they were introduced in right? Yeah. So that's where we're starting to see all of the pieces of all nervous plan come together and it's it's not a good-looking puzzle terrifying looking puzzle writ large in Murder pink murder pink. I want to know what the color code for murder pink is now many zeros and F's are in that lots of apps. That's for sure. I think all FS is all black. I believe really yeah. All zeros is I believe I believe all zeros is white and all F says black. It could be the opposite of what I got at Home Depot. I don't know. I just look at the slider and I move things around, but I never read the values, but I'll send you a ticket. Recap of the exact charge of year think what is the value for murder pink? I think I have a shirt to make. Okay. Sounds good. Put it up there with rip it. Sorry and lotor was framed. Sorry. Sorry, I make shirts. Oh, man. I need a reference. Are you sure? Yeah, it's hilarious. I got that reminds me of the the Japanese mixed with English words like go - Ari, have you asked earlier? It's horrible, but I kind of love it. I mean I I grew to like it. I grew to like At first I was like, how could you butcher Japanese but as like Holly? No, it's actually it's genius. Yeah, just like Brad Pitt, sorry love but engrish shirts like oh, yeah totally and it's red and his like rainbows on it and says I hate myself and wish to die. Wait what? Yeah english.com fun fun stuff to check it out. What are some of the other shirts that you've made I that I've made well, you know, what or they've had ideas, you know, whatever. I guess. Those are the three Voltron ones that are still in the shop. I have some others that didn't make the cut. Yeah, a lot of it is also D&D puns. Okay be classes. I have one that says Paladin Oh Holy Night drew it is Born to Be Wild nice. I'm not a great designer. So I firmly believe in text but because that's about I can manage. There's nothing wrong with text episode is awesome. Yeah, for those of you who want to link to the shirt shop. It's on my Twitter. We will check it out. Sorry. Yeah, I will what was the other one again? Lotor was framed look and I guess now we need a murder pink shirt hammered finger and you know, you know that II like production on Earth got back to normal like there would definitely be people who would like take the Cholera language and makes laying out of it just like oh, yeah, there are people that have light knock off Paladin armor style shirts and knock off Galaxy Garrison uniform shirts. It just anyone who can still do screen printing is make a nice shirt. I will take your shirt commission. I want that video game. Yeah. What do you want? Yeah. Number one fan done. Oh, yeah, and then he just makes like 15 of them and Does the same thing that page does just like yeah, I totally have Voltron tricks for you guys the Pala dudes shirt. Oh Howard is best thing ever. I haven't seen that one of those on order actually again back to T public and other people shirt shops. There's a see you later Pala dude. Sure. Oh, that's cool. I need to get that for a woman. Oh, yeah, one of our storyboard artists actually boarded a lot of that sequence with him tied to and then he I think he was the one that I added the what's this song called that they played Amazing Grace? Yeah. Oh and like no sentence has been more. Oh, yeah. Giant giant Star Trek fan. Yes. Did the first entry episode? I was great. Oh man. Yeah for those of you asking for an after bro shirt. I'll make it happen. I will make it happen that by Alexis after Burrows is hers. You think she'd say no. I'm just saying you gotta cut her in on that. This is true. This is true. Anyway, we have an episode and an episode to wrap up. I do love that at the end of this we ended with that little bit of Hope like Oak Ariane is gone. Most of its people ostensibly survived. We we have those Escape pods leaving the planet and thank goodness. We don't pull a Star Wars and start targeting the Escape pods. Hmm yikes that could end the episode could have been so much darker, but we have that we have web limbs being the first part of their they Clean up old planets and then new ones can form. So again the old making way for the new and we have some information that's going to help the Coalition. So it's a heart-wrenching beautiful painful episode that ends on a slightly up note. Like we still have yeah, totally always hope this helped which is good. I like it. Hmm any final thoughts on this either of these episodes. No, see you later. Pal. Oh dude, that's coming to my mind. Is that all the episodes so far with the exception of you know, the hunter of a flashback episode they they've taken some time to show a Laura's loneliness and frustration, which the the show hasn't really focused on too much its delved into it, but it It consistently dwelt on it. So I'm interested to see how that's going to affect her relationship with Lance moving forward because they they kind of get into a couple spat at the very beginning. It's true. No, yeah, it's true. Yeah, she's she's a full-on John Locke moment where she's like don't tell me what I can't do just like know working together. That is always understandings. Yeah, it's very calm. Yeah. You can he never gets mad. No. Yeah, especially yeah, not at ellora. Yeah. Yeah. Only It Keith. Yes. Exactly. He's another character where you step back and you look at his ark and it's just beautiful. Yeah episode 1 I wouldn't have guessed that he would be like one of the most understanding characters by by the by the final season. Oh, yeah, but yeah just very understanding here. Absolutely. Wonderful. And I that's one of those things that I didn't really notice the first time around. I'm just laying the laying the building blocks for a Laura there, but now having seen everything going back and re watching and going. Okay. Yeah, this is this was all laid out. All right. So yeah, I think this is all very well put together. Thank you guys for joining us tonight. Thank you. Yeah, thanks for having us. They're a lot of fun. So you want to say about working on Voltron any fun stories any anything you want to fun stories? The only good stories you have told us plenty. I mean, I guess, you know, we want to say thank you so much. Thank you. You know all the fans out there who watch our show and continue to support us like, you know, you guys are the reason that we want to make cartoons. So, thanks. Thank you so much. Yeah, we all worked really hard on this and we're glad to see a payoff. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah, that's it was such a blast to watch all three seasons are there. Is there anything that you're working on right now that you can tell us about? Oh, I don't know. Yeah, there's a hundred percent of the reason why is it that you can tell us about its we get it not disclosure agreements. You guys are getting a lot of love in the chat by the way everybody. Yeah. Thanks guys. Yeah Chad's also asked him to like any any future Works anything. We can't just keep an eye out you guys and follow them on their social medias. Yeah darling videos. I did currently work on some of those. I don't know if you guys seen those Star Wars shorts that those little Destiny I know Galaxy of Adventure. Whoo. Yeah, so that was through titmouse. Actually, I think Tim I said all the animation for it and I did a couple of storyboards for that. So there's a couple episodes online on YouTube. So go check that out. Yeah. Okay. It's really fun. Yeah super worth watching. Yeah and amazing super cool. Yeah. All right things to put on our playlist. I am intrigued I'm excited. They're fun. They're really fun. So where can the people go online if they want to keep up with you where your social media people can Find me on Twitter at underscore unagi Dawn and on Instagram, it's Nagi Dome booty. You can find me at Christine Bean 33 on Twitter and at Christine BM draws on Instagram. Thanks again for joining us you guys. It's been an absolute blast. Thank you so much and happy birthday. Thank you birthday. Typically wrote fanfiction for you in which Robert Rogers rivet finds his true. Love at space Also. Okay. Thank you so much. I appreciate that guys. That's perfect Megan work in the be providing. You guys can follow me on Twitter and Instagram at the manga. That's thei. Me and Guin I am also on a bunch of shows here at AfterBuzz and I do a podcast it's a lost retrospective podcast called no love lost or my co-host loves lost and I don't so check that out. You can follow Blue Line Alexa stores and de Toros eight nine zero. Red Lion ma5 at Emma 5 and yellow line Mark Tomica at Mark donka. 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 It’s a horror movie double feature! Join hosts Katie Cullen and Megan Salinas and guests Eugene Lee and Christine Bian for Voltron season 8 episodes 3 and 4! The coalition hits a stumbling point with Warlord Lahn, but hopefully he can be convinced to join...if the horror movie monster hunting them through the halls of an abandoned ship doesn’t get them first. Then, Olkarion is gone but not forgotten, as Pidge takes a walk through the planet’s memories to find out what happened, and the old makes way for the new. Plus, behind the scenes stories, insight into the prop and background design process, and a little bit of fix-it fic, all on this episode of the Voltron after show! The Voltron After Show: Join the robotic lions in this intergalactic war against the Galra Empire by listening to the various recaps, reviews and in-depth analysis and discussion on each episode of the series. Not only will we break down the episodes though, we’ll also deliver all the latest news surrounding the show and have cast and crew join us. It’s the VOLTRON LEGENDARY DEFENDER AFTER SHOW! Show Summary: Voltron: Legendary Defender is an animated web television series produced by American companies DreamWorks Animation and World Events Productions and animated by South Korean Studio Mir. It is a reboot of both the Beast King GoLion anime series and the Voltron franchise, and its animation is a mix of anime-influenced traditional animation for characters and background and CGI for Voltron action sequences. Voltron: Legendary Defender is set in a science fiction universe where planetary energy called "quintessence" can be used to power vehicles and magic. The series follows the adventures of the Paladins of Voltron who must learn to work together to form the giant robot Voltron and use it to defeat the evil Galra Empire. 