Hey everyone, welcome to the withering fact. This is episode 12 B. That's right. I said 12 be like the B-side of that cassette that fell underneath your tape back in like, I don't know high school years when your parents couldn't afford a real CD player for your car. Today's date is September 10th 2019, and I am Duds or does versus everywhere else bang and I'm Bank like you said. Yeah. I'm Bank Hope on God awful is going soYeah, we were well, it's we'll work it out. Well, they get no I lost it. Yeah. Okay. So this episode is going to be really different than all the other episodes. Basically we had Nina on last week and we had so much fun recording with her. We recorded a second episode that we kind of waited to put out till this week. We still want to cover some news and stuff. Neither one of us have really worked on anything important this week. If been non mine craft projects and I'm not going to tell you guys mine because it's a major major project and I'm kind of holding it close to the chest until I get more stuff worked out shit. He's it is a very cool thing though. Yeah bank had to sit here and listen to me talk about it. What an hour 45 minutes already. Jeez, maybe longer than that. Yeah, but I'm super excited. I hope it gets worked out. Yeah. Yeah. I do too. So, do you have anything to add bank or should we just jump right into the new? No, I don't know pretty much to add from this week. It was a pretty pretty boring week for me as well. Yeah, I mean the most I had was I did a lot of work in the yard. I did some work on my car. And that was it. I just kept making models. I'm printing them. Hey, you did a 3D model of that chest and painted it and that look really good. Yeah, I should actually post a picture. I'll do it in that this car after we're done recording. Yeah another reason to join the Discord which some of you guys took us up on and you get and thank you God for my door just Court small and not Super Active, but that's why we keep begging you guys to join the Discord. Because then it will get like if yeah, exactly so Minecraft news, we had snapshot 19w 36a. It is already like a week ago this point but yeah, but because we we record weird days sometimes their Saturday, sometimes there's some days Mondays or Tuesdays. We just never know. That's why I say the date whenever we do not just episodes up so you guys can go. Oh they recorded on this date. That's They're not talking about this. And stuff like that. Yeah snapshot. Holy crap. We're already getting sidetracked on a very Sidetrack you episode. Oh, yeah, I forgot about that. We have a lot of sight trikes with Nina. It's also great. Yeah, it really was it was fun talking to you. It was a lot of fun. All right news news for us. Okay should I don't even know how to pronounce this word. So your language. I mean, I'm even more lost. I've never eaten yet seen the world. I know it has something to do with obscuring and that it's going to make modding Minecraft way better. I mean that's kind of what it says is well look they on the snapshot thing. Yeah, so there's that to me. The big thing is trying to sleep in a bed during daytime will now set players spawn that's going to be awesome. I kind of like that. I wonder if you actually lay in bed or not. Probably. I don't know. I think it's going to be cool because everyone tries to build many games where you kind of die. So you have to sleep in a bed before you play the Mini-Game. Yeah servers. So this look tight kind of take away that or like when you're doing a group fight trying to fight the Enderdragon and everyone's trying to sleep in a bed before the dragon fight not everyone got into the bed. So the night passed super quick and now they're like, oh my God, I didn't get to set my spot. Yeah that those are great examples of Why did that thing is great. Also, if you just found a nice bolt and it took you a lot of effort to get there and you don't want to risk like hanging out too much before setting Your Spawn. Oh, yeah, it's a good rifle Far Away. Like I just want to set my spell now. Yeah, it's very good point. I really like the firework Rockets. Well, we should go buy order. I guess it's completely well. I think I'm going by different order maybe than you but I have bells will ring if powered by redstone. Yeah, I really like that as well. I mean I worked around it using an arrow in a dispenser and just shooting an arrow against a bell. Well, is it the actual Bell or are a few power the block the bill is hooked to does that also ring it? I mean, I'm gonna I'm gonna say right. Then the block I mean wouldn't they just work like any other Redstone component? Yeah, I'm guessing. I don't know if the block next to it gets powered. It'll sort of sun to power through it as well. Like once doesn't Observer observe a bell ringing. Oh, that's an interesting question. Yeah, I don't really know a purpose for it, but it would be nice to know if it did or not. I mean that may already be in the game. Anyways, you might have to wait for us - yeah for that. Yeah, that's that's a fun one to try out. Yeah, another update in the snapshot that's really going to help like custom map makers and modding and stuff is that you can turn off individual damage in the game. So like you can turn off drowning damage. So if you're underwater too long, you won't drown you can take off fall damage no more falling to your death or fire damage stuff like that can be changed in the game rules. So that's kind of cool for some adventure maps. I guess I'll so far. How do you phrase it? Like for Less experienced player servers that is right. There's a lot of new players. They often have like no, you know set the game mode to easy and no fire takes that kind of stuff that there's some things in there. That could be really nice for a new players. Yep, I agree. The next item is sponges now try out when placed in the nether. I mean I could save on fuel. Yeah, I understand it, but I don't really think it was a worthy enough thing if that makes sense. Like I get it because water doesn't exist in the nether. So it makes sense for water to evaporate out of sponges when you place them down, right? I think you should be able to get away with not even placing them down. Like if you just hit q and toss them out of your inventory. Oh, yeah, that would make it worth it. I mean I kind of like this as well go. I mean melting stuff is always really slow. Yeah, so placing it and then mining it is obviously sort of a quicker way and also less weight. Well, I love how they built two new furnaces to makes melting faster, but it still doesn't do everything. So now they're working out ways to not use furnaces at all. Yeah, that's roll porkchop in the nether it Cook it. And that will be great though. It makes sense. Throw it on a on a make my blog something like that the Nethers hi-yah. Okay, then the one you were talking about earlier fireworks now dispense from a dispenser and travel the way they were the direction. They were fired. Yeah, it's so completely useless but it's really cool because you can have horizontal work. It's like you said, that's awesome. Right? I'm going to start setting up a little turns of firework big large exploding balls or whatever. Yeah, you can actually make turrets for like mini games and stuff. Hmm. I think that'll be very cool. Yeah. Honey, bottles are now less filling. Also I guess they decrease the saturation guys. I was already complaining that honey was kind of useless. Now you made it even more useless yesterday Ed of the food and it could be like a replacement for carrots. If it well. It didn't stick so it couldn't be but you know, yeah and then now they just made it like yeah, you never even really want to use it because it's really bad. All right. It's a shame. Yeah, put honey on the chicken and let me cook the chicken and give my chicken the saturation of a golden carrot. That's what I'm yeah, that's going to be awesome. I'd still would like to see a complete food really work, like keep the foods you have just sort of make them work differently or something. I agree make it viable to use them. Whichever you're like, I don't know. Now there's so many once you don't read you never use like you don't want to use it at all. Yeah. Some couple bug fixes entities Crossing Dimensions through another portals cause tremendous lag. That's true and I'm excited that that gets fixed from what they're saying is like 115 is not going to be this huge Grand update. It's just kind of going to be a bug fix with some other stuff added to it. Right which I'm kind of okay with as long as it doesn't take July before it comes out. Because that's what it's going to come out early 2019 and it was what July 4th that weekend I want to say is when the server started and we were playing on snapshots. I think so. Well that's also offer but they promised they would do like two big releases a year or something. Yeah, maybe they'll finally holding up to that though. That would be nice. Yeah. I'm cool with smaller releases throughout the year if one release is literally just we're making the game work better. I'm good with that. But you can't take all year on a we're going to fix our bugs from the last one update. Probably know that. No, they shoot at stuff, but they are I mean, yeah, I've been there many snapshots. It's clear that there it's clear that they're adding stuff. It's not much true. Speaking of bees. They fixed were bees will suffocate when up against a solid block ceiling because you know bees are stupid last time. They tried to drown themselves now, they can't breathe on a solid ceiling. Mmm dumb bees. Honey level of beehives. It's not increase as opposed to be nests. I'm not sure what that means. I'm guessing because obviously when you look at the F3 screen at a hive, it'll say honey level and level 5 I want to say is when you can Harvest The hunting from it right? So I don't know if that saying like the hives themselves weren't working, but the bee nests were. I did I haven't played in the snapshot. I usually try to save playing in the snapshot. Yeah, they're getting closer to releasing it - yeah, I've really might reason to to go in through this nuptial Beyond just have a quick look at beast. But I mean the screen shields you see a sort of show you all you need. At least I think so. Yeah. I don't know we'll have to wait and see what that kind of means I guess. I think you're right. But other than that, I think we're done with the news. Right did you say about well, let's test the bees are affected by benefit and reports. Oh I didn't I didn't hear you say that one know and they change the texture of nectar covered bees to have consistent amount of money. I guess there was again I didn't really see into the snapshot that but yet, so I don't know. Okay, what that school is it give mean Boehner a surprise at least that kind of gives it another thing too. It's still the worst enchantment the game guys. Come on are they are Trope bolts or whatever. I don't really know even what that word means but I told her that's something to do with spiders. I mean, I know it's a type. I need to be - oh, okay SOB's very just follow that so I just yeah, I haven't looked into it. This was kind of a Last-minute. Hey, let's record the news to add Tena. There's any insect knowledge guys out there. Let us know in at this car. Yeah speaking wedge. What we're going to go ahead and do is we're going to have Karl do our disk or dad and then we're going to take you guys straight into a recording from last week with Nina what we finish up our discussions. I hope you guys enjoy it. It was a lot of fun. It was a lot of fun. Hey, everyone, the withering effect has a Discord. It's a great place to have discussions with fellow listeners and everyone who works on the show a link will be available in the show notes. And if you don't join a walrus might try to steal your pants certain did the walrus. Hi guys. This is going to be a bonus to last episode. Nina is still with us. Say hello. We had some good ideas after we wrapped up the podcast that could wait. So we're going to go ahead and record some bonus stuff. Thank you. Still alive. I'm still here. Let's just I don't know when to think most listening. Yeah. Yeah, we got we got all the dirt. I guess. Yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and call this one the dirt Carl you don't get to name this episode. This section is basically how to deal with people that aren't being Savory on the server. I'm going to use that word or maybe just some people in general who are new to the community who aren't necessarily bad players. Just they need some direction how to deal with your community as a server owner as the leader of the group. That's way better wording be saying that players. Who's going? Okay, so he hasn T first right? Because I'm ready. Yeah, Didn't Start us off. You ready them Pat like I look so I've I've been I guess an admin for maybe three years. Now. There's always gonna be whenever you start a community. There's always going to be issues. Shoes always always always that's just the nature in humans. So yes, how do you deal with them people together? Yeah, if you how do you deal with them? How do you maintain the situation? Like for example, there's this one guy. I don't know what his deal was and he wasn't a kid either like he was a this is a grown man. He didn't agree with some of the servers. I guess new new rules. So we were a faction. YouTube rest in peace server and then no one was really like fighting each other because we were all like pretty chill. So we decided that I should be vanilla S&P whatever and I was like what that's all dumb so boring and we got into an argument and disagreement and he instead of like wanting to Compromise and find a solution he ended up just saying peace, but he also had access to the console. So after he got I guess on whitelisted the server owner forgot to remove him from the console access and he just really whitelisted him. He's fondant he turned when to creative. He spawned in Withers. My eye things were blowing up and he's like ha ha Fu and yeah. Oh what it was? Yeah. Well luckily like we got backups. So always have that backup always gotta have that. I like man, that's so petty. I like there's always gonna be Petty people always. Yeah. I want to say back in comedy craft. What was it? Season two we did call me world on the Discworld. We had a player join and literally just kind of joined out of spite because he didn't like our application process. So he went through the trouble of joining and everything just for He literally mind for like an hour got enough iron to make tons of buckets of lava started lighting everything on fire with lava because we had fire ticket somebody in our shopping area was selling gunpowder. So he made a bunch of TNT just kind of like blew up the entire shopping area, which I couldn't understand but luckily like I said basic hosting does automatic backups for us. So in general, I think we lost three hours. And I want to say that's when I install a core protect and put Bank and Trust because fuzzy was the admin I had before Bank. And that wasn't going so well, so when Bank message, hey, I want to kind of join again and play some psych. Yes. Yeah, I've noticed there was interesting when I first looked like through the server files and stuff as well. Yeah, there were a little like so you guys had a stud Discworld was like it was a pre created map. Yeah. It was a custom map by guy who basically The books off of I think the Terry Pratchett books the one where the worlds on the back of a turtle. Yeah, which was an awesome world, but it has its downsides like you didn't really want to mess up the world. So if you needed a big ups and or stuff that we really good places for that. There were no like sponsors and stuff. So you guys created like a portal thingy where you could just go to like a completely different world, which was meant to like screw up and yeah, just dig up get resources and all that. And so when I looked through the server files I saw like more worlds. I know one had like a half malt. So it was like ice Planet sort of thing. He just had its own world's going on on the side. It was a bit awkward. Yeah, I remember I messaged you about that. Like hey, is that supposed to be there? And then I was like, what the heck are you talking about? He made his own world. It was to play in. Yeah, he just used the server as a testing ground for I think it was his own server. Besides it was it was really really interesting. Yeah, so I fixed that. Yeah, that's it. Yeah, I mean that goes back to sort of be careful who you choose to be monitoring permissions. Yeah, and don't be afraid to kick people. I know like hmm. There's a lot of nice. I've met a lot of nice several owners were like, oh they did it. I'll give him a slap on the wrist if they do it again, then I'll kick them but it's like Come on, just just if that happens. Don't be scared to just get rid of it. I don't know if someone's toxic. I think we should just get rid of them. I think that's and I both try to sort of woke a line where your fair but look straight as well. Thank more than me now out in the beginning. I had the street three-strike rule where if you do three things you're gone and I want to say by the final season of common craft. It was like I was throwing that ban Hammer like Like Thor's it's like if you did want to follow rule, just forget it you're gone and it's mainly the X-ray years that we had the problem with we had so many x-rays That season. So what we would do is we'd literally just go into their inner chest take the diamonds and stuff out of it. We had a community giveaway. We're basically if you put your name and I'll split you had a chance to win all the diamonds that guy extra. That's awesome. Yeah, because yeah, we just put it back in the community that the mix is shops. Shops on our server. We're always the number one thing. That's what kept people going was I'm building a shop. I need a constant Supply the shop. So people were always spending money and coming coins. And yeah, why not give them more money to spend. Yeah also with with like thanks various. We didn't all straight up then dumb like if there was someone who just joined and like the first thing you did was go down and do that. Yeah. We didn't give him much of a chance. Yeah, but If it was someone who shot of slipped up, I guess he just I don't know. He got impatient after like a week or so, we would be like talking to him and depending on how they would respond and deal with it. Yeah, they straight up admitted it in your lighter sober. Yeah. Yeah, okay. Here's your one chance to make up. Yeah, I'm gonna go Thorn you the next time you do. Mmm. Yeah. Like I said, we try to be sort of fair, like people who were already around like that, especially if they were nice guys. You don't really want to bend nice guys basically, but you know, you gotta sort of keep the rules. Yeah. Yeah, you definitely have to be afraid to you got to be sturdy as well because people will fight you on it. Ya know I didn't then you sometimes start to doubt your Self like am I right here? And you just gotta be like, no, you know you made that decision already. So you just got to see ya read it that's sometimes stuff like they play on your feelings for sure. Oh man, it's always it's always tough Trend be strict because I'm an impact. Like I always try to like feel for the other side. So it's it's yeah, it can get difficult. Once I gotta say if you guys so you guys have all you you did have like weird server admin drama, I guess. Yeah, because iíve had a couple issues where there's like this weird power in security. So I want that for one server. I wasn't the owner, but I was an admin so I would be like and I try I'm trying my best to keep the server alive. So I'm like recommending things and they'll owner would be like not. like I think about it headed so frustrating to not I don't know just like have those kinds of people around where they like I'm the owner I get to control everything. Muhahaha. Yeah. Well that kind of leads me into why I started coming craft Bank knows the story. I think Bank likes his story. I can't remember if you're tired. I mean I kind of us part of it. Anyway if that whole story. Yeah, so we played on a server called realm of survivors for I was listening here. I think I only lasted six months on that server. I think we both joined sort of at the same time without really realizing it. Yeah, so I knew right then the admins had a lot of abuse of their power. Basically what kind of ended it for me was I would be building something and admin just kind of wrote up to me and killed me what said? Oh well and walked off. It's like what the heck that's why I like that. Yeah, and then we had another girl on their her name was FEA talking about I'm trying to make sexual advances. Oh, that's so sad. Yeah, and that was really a big. Well, I'm going to start my own public server. Now where people can be safe and play and have fun and not have to worry about stuff like that. How old were they and sorry I keep interrupting. I have no clue. I think they were like they had sort of young guys, but I think most of them are like the decent a thing most of them were in their twenties at least I'd say n and 20s probably even yeah me too and twenty somewhere. Yeah, they were like it. Wow, obviously not if they're sexually harassing so girls what the hell they should know better. That's disappointing. Yeah, so I started covercraft and I was just like hey, if you want to play here, you're fine. I invited like maybe five other people from Roma survivors to join next thing. I know there were like 20 people that left enjoying the nice and so basically you starting common craft started the fall of Rome of survivors the point where they didn't have a server for a while. Well, yeah. Yeah, and then a year after common craft started, I guess Roma survivors got picked back up and they got called the sunflower Kingdom. Basically, they didn't like the fact that they found out that all their players went to Comic craft and blame me for the downfall Roman survivors. So any video I would post or any Reddit link promoting the server's they were just constantly downvoted and stuff and talk trash about that guy freaking bottom. I say that you disliked all my videos talk trash on my community channel. Oh my God. It did set that as well for quite a while. I think we just when you upload it, like you had a dislike like pretty much it was like one guy everybody our liking it like we do. Yeah ours bro. Yeah, and it doesn't really affect me enough really anything my server kept continuing on and Rome with or sunflower Kingdom. They actually grew to a decent number but they didn't have the steady base we did. But we had players that were in both discords and I would get messages with like screenshots of them. Just absolutely trashing me as a YouTuber and stuff. It's like guys I have less than a hundred Subs. Really I get it. I'm not great but you're not hurting my feelings here. And basically from then on any time I saw a sunflower in game. I would just punch it and be like down with the kingdom. You still do I still do it and no one really? Is why so anybody for the past two years has been wondering why I punched some flowers as they down with the kingdom. You now know why I mean, that's the dirt that that City. Yeah tastes good. Exactly. That's funny really does iMovie we did kind of crush realm of survivors to be fair. Well, yeah that was unintentionally though. I only invited five you are all like really active and Meet me on fire were like quite close back then and I remember we left because her and naps another player. They had built like a was it a mill office. Maybe you helpful. Not as well. I built the mail office you built a Memphis and we got there and I was like a piece was blowing out and I was like Stone and stuff that was missing. We knew that and they were like, so we message layer someone grave that could you maybe like three roll it or And they were like no no, no whilst it was The Lure was fire. We're like no but stone is missing so many obviously like grief that they were like, no no, no, it's down here. They just kept being like they just didn't care. Like if you weren't part of that little click they didn't care that's sad and that was sort of forest like yeah, we don't want to be in a place where our admins don't do anything. Exactly. Yeah, you are just started gummy craft. So we just hoped over at least I remember saying to fire like all right. I'm out. I'm going to do that. Yeah, she was like, all right, I'm joining Yeah, we actually burn both our own bases. Yeah, you guys told me that you both are like make big wooden houses. So we were like, well, that's that's why it's our own stuff burn. That's kind of cool. So we did that and then they Bend guess we burned our own place. I mean we didn't care because we wouldn't go back anyway, but it was a bit awkward like we there was a round thing. Why can't we burn it you creeps your own thing that still griefing banhammer, I guess. Yeah. Well I didn't care if she was just like over it come across very better. And yeah people just like that like I get power I get to control you. Yeah, something like that stuff all that stuff man. Like I had an issue where my people like one person he had an idea that he was working on like a shop. He had an idea of a shop and another and he mentioned it briefly in a meeting maybe like months ago three months ago. And then another member. Had the same idea of a shop, which is it just selling light nothing like to creative or like unique in a way where you could say like you're copying my idea. But he said like whoa, probably copying my dear. So it's like you have one person that took a lot of time trying to set up this shop, but he's had like limited time to do so, so it's taking a really long. Time to even set it up which and they have another person that just happened to think of this idea. Forgot that he was going to make this shop and now they're they fought over it. They're like, well one person was like that's messed up you took my idea and then you know, the other side is like I didn't take your idea. It's I'm Sorry, but you know, I mean it's a fair. Yeah, like you could have it if you want but some people just get so hurt that they just don't want to even deal with it. So now it's like what am I supposed to do? As the server owner, how do you deal with how you deal with people like fighting against each other when you're supposed to be friends, right as it ties into real life too, you know. Yeah, we had that a little bit on disk or told where since Farms couldn't be built the same one because we're on spigot into things like which Huds and stuff like that couldn't be built. I remember early. Like a guy wanted to sell iron was like, okay. Well that's cool. You have an iron from that actually works. Go ahead and then another guy. Well, I want to sell iron to my arms bigger and better but for my shop. I'm just going to put a chest out with a sign on it saying I saw iron. It's like well, why don't you sell iron to the guy who took all this time to build a really nice shop on the cheap and then he'll pay you for the iron. He's already agreeing to pay you for the iron to supply his shop. And then he was just like no, I'm not doing that and they ended up quitting the serve. Well, so you try to just keep like the market area. I guess the shopping area kind of nice to everybody build a nice shop and stuff. Yeah. He just blew up the chest down the sign layer by stuff here. It's like right on dude at least put some effort into it Bankhead a was a van that just sold rambled a minivan. Yeah. It's like like an ice cream truck that a sort of window the site. I mean the moving on will stand with my face on it. It's a Low effort build but it's so much nicer than here's a chest with the line. Yeah. I didn't want to build a whole house. I didn't want to go so we'll sort of cluttered and I settled anyway, like sort of random stuff that I had left and I didn't want to invade the whole nice town with a big shop for that. So I'll just just put the fender. He didn't we had want to do with that. No. No, I just was slow and I remember oxenfurt because we'd have people join build a shop for some like random stupid stuff never really fully finish it and just leave and normally we would either just have some other person who wanted to build their tear it down and build their shop there or I would quote unquote sell the shop to them. Like look the shots pretty much pre-built. You just have to stock it with your item. Mmm-hmm. It's like no, but that's not my bill to take so you don't want to build anything. Anyways, here you go. So why join like a server like that when you don't want to build it's kinda like he was the guy who just built a farm in left true. Yeah, yeah people man the hats I had to how do you deal with that situation? What do people sort of fight and you know, no, no we yeah, I don't really how did it's uh, we have people trying to like we didn't really have that situation. Obviously, it's hard to sort of get to exact situations. I always goes to people I always try to offer the compromise and hope both parties agree to it. If they don't then it's kind of like Don't well. I've never run into the part where both people don't agree to the compromise other than this one guy and he just ended up leaving the server making my job easy. Yeah. For the rest, we generally had a sort of first come first serve rule when it came to shops. Like yeah, he was first. He already had the shop don't go build a shop and sell it for Less that that sort of a yeah. That's a that's okay. So we would give the guy you at the shop the advantage like we would just go to the other guy like, you know, just work something out or find something else to sell or whatever. That's just you can't you gonna do that? And then for the rest We sort of had the rule or it's not really a role, but we just didn't let people like you could reserve doing something like I want to build this but that would only last for like a week or a month or something. So if you know you have to build it you couldn't Reserve something for like half a year and then complain that somebody else. Yeah, if you had like reserve something you like. Hey, I can't play for the next month or so my life's gotten busy or whatever. You just had to tell us it's like hey, I'm going to be gone for a little while. Please keep my reserve on or whatever. It's like okay. Yeah, well do that but if we don't hear from you in six months didn't tell us yeah, we would just assume you're gone. Basically you were allowed to come back like it's all fine. You don't have to play. But yeah, if you're not there for a while we're just gonna assume you're not there yet fair, but I think you guys make a good point of compromise try to find a solution and have both parties compromise. Rather than try to listen to both parties as well people like having their side hurt. And if you ignore that then that just fuels the fire. Yeah. That's what we are. We had a guy who had a small iron from the did produce a lot but had a really nice shop then another guy who had no shop but a really large nice iron farm. It's like, how can you guys not see how easy this is one guy's willing to buy this. The supply you're obviously willing to supply it. It's like makes sense work together. Yeah, I want to say by the end. They both ended up leaving the server at some point in me a bank turned the iron farm that was giant into a community one that floated in the air. Nice. Yeah, I mean in general we just put that stuff for like grabs or just yeah, I think people's Pride just Inigo just get in the way of them making decisions logical decisions. We had a problem with so we had a lot of really Good builders on our server. I still stand by. I think we had one of the best public servers with like underrated good Builders and we'd have people join it really good. They're like, I just don't want to build next to this guy because he's too good and it's like, well, you saw the pictures of the server when you joined. It's like instead of being embarrassed of your build like a set guy for some tips and tricks and get to know your community little more all of us want to help each other. Well, I think that was also kind of if the nice thing most of those well in break, it's good Builders skills. Most of them didn't really saw it that way themselves. Yeah, but they really didn't mind like all of them really liked helping people out and getting better at the game and stuff. Yeah, which helped us. Well, yeah, I mean, I don't know how many hours I've spent staring at a decoy build just cursing him underneath my breath for how good he was. He just puts so much and so little space. Yeah. Live decoy on the notice the dude does so much with so little it's crazy and not to mention he can talk you into an app. It's so calming. That's something that's so easy. Well, yeah. No, he's not boy. He's really relaxed. He's just call them I get it. I get it now, I guess some people just have that. Soothing voice. You should be like a yes. Those are audio bedtime story people. Yes, that would be awesome. Yeah would buy everyone in wuzzleburg. We had him on the podcast a little while ago. Yeah, it was encounter with episode. He was so eight but must have been eight. Yeah, it was definitely a fun podcast came up with some outside views and it's like dude we're talking about Minecraft and he's out here talking about some kind of crazy limitation Theory he's using and it's like wait, that's how you build so good. He true itself a little yeah. And I was awesome though. It really is and the fact that decoys Swedish and works at Ikea plays Minecraft on top of it. It's like the perfect alignment. It's like there's no way I mean somebody from Sweden who works at Ikea is already like that's it's comparable to me. That's what I picture Sweden as is just one giant Ikea Now everybody from Sweden listen to podcast going turn off click. Oh, yeah. I was thinking that like, oh boy. Hey, we label this episode of dirt true. I bet they didn't expect dirt and like I did on the country of Sweden. Yep. I bet you Sweden's an awesome place and I would love to visit there. I've pretty sure I would freeze my butt off though. I think it depends on when you go. I think the summers are quite Nice. Yeah, well, I'm used to like so I'm from North Carolina, which means I sweat nine months out of the years or not a year, right? Yeah any more dirt we want to bring up or how to work with communities and stuff how to keep the server up and running. Do you want to talk about that? That's a good one? Yeah, so common craft we always had what I called the lull. It's Like so you basically have a new update and for the next two months the servers are extremely active and then it slowly starts to die down where you have about three to four months in between the next update where you have one to two active players and I always was trying to figure out ways to kind of keep people going and stuff and that's where the idea for. The shopping area started was how do I keep players active and I saw hermitcraft had there. Shopping area and that that thing was always busy that that's where all the new builds were happening. So we started that and then for the final season of common craft we did the commie coins because they were so rare you kind of always had to be messing around on the server to get them which led to the custom villagers that traded a bunch of decorative blocks. How did you get the more you wanted off? So Bank set it up where if you killed what was it? A zombie spider skeleton was at witches, too. No, I think I think the Creeper Creeper. Yeah, I was all the basic mopes as I'd like to go there. Yeah, he changed it loot table. So whenever they would get killed him was it a one percent chance of dropping a spawn egg because Minecraft had the generic spawn egg when you clicked it didn't spawn anything looks like an empty spool Nike basically. Yeah. I don't think it works anymore. I think that's been removed from the game, but we had a server texture pack that Only redid the texture for the spawn egg. So instead of a spawn egg, you'd get something called a common coin that look like a coin and everything like that. And yeah, you just go around killing mobs. So I keep from Mom we found the best way. Yeah at one point. I thought about doing the custom achievements and then that would give you coins but that whole custom achievement thing was just too hard for me. Could you have just like made a mob farm AFK for a bit get the coins you could then the drop rates for kind of low, but I had a zombie firm that I use it to do like small repairs on Gyros and stuff. But that ended up giving me quite a bit of Kami go into that. You could Farm them. It just wasn't practical so you could only really by like custom heads that look like I don't know a tiny or block or something. Yeah, I think really wasn't much point to to like Farm it really hard. Yeah, and that was our biggest thing was driving like hey, how can we make this where people just don't build a giant farm to get unlimited coins all the time. Yeah, and the only way we could think about it was do small spawn rates. Actually, there was a time when you were getting well before they were coins you would get the spawn egg by upvoting the server. So obviously we were promoting the server in several different places and it was set up where if you went and upvoted the server add once a day. So you go to three different websites upvote of vote the server knew that and whenever you spawned it to the server it would give you a spawn egg as soon you logged in and that was the main way to get them till Bank came in and changed the loot tables for me. That's not bad. That's not a bad idea. Either though. Ya know it helped us. It was the sort of stomach voting system. Right? I've seen that old Public Services as well, too. Yeah, that was just how we could keep recruitment up to because we'd have about I don't know five or six people that were dedicated to not missing an upvote opportunity. So hmm, I praised those got was a little like you could see a what is it a list on top folder for that month? Yeah. There was like a tiny competition going on between like three people something like they wanted to be at the top. Wait, which kind of helps for all the episodes? Yeah, those guys kind of really kept us going at one point so mad props to them. Hmm for the rest. You just did sort of later on the at least you started doing like manual recruiting. I'm still not fully sure. I'll know you actually did that. So every week I would always do a post on Minecraft servers on Reddit because most of our people we got were from Reddit. So it's like well these other websites aren't helping In too much time working with them. I'm just going to drop them. So I did focused on Reddit and there is also a subreddit for people looking for servers. So I would spend my lunch hour just scrolling through there. And anyone I saw that kind of matched what we were looking for said hey, check out comic craft. Here's the link to our subreddit. You can see all the buildings and stuff. People are making YouTube videos and we got a couple players that way but it was just so much work recruiting players. With no no much return on that know for every hey come check out common craft I sent out. I maybe got one player. Mmm and Why should I just rephrase that better for every like 20? Hey come check out common craft. We only ended up with like one player, which was it horrible in the fact that it kept our server size small which meant it ran very very well like our TPS never really drop below 20. But at the same time you'd have people like we had one or two Australians and they had no one to play with because the time they played during the day was so I physically go out looking for somebody in New Zealand or Australia. So people would have people play with and there's not a lot. Yeah, it's hard Australians. Hmm. It's hard to specifically look for like sort of part of the world. Anyway, yeah. Like you gotta pursue some point. We also while you sort of said that but we also looked at sort of YouTubers because we realized from our own experience that YouTube is a sort of extra motivator to keep playing because she well you have an audience I guess. Yeah, so we thought let's try and get some more YouTubers on the server not turn it into a YouTuber server, but just try and get a few of them because they have more motivation to keep playing. Yep, and they usually try and put a little bit more. Our effort into the into certain things but then panel get demotivated and now yeah, or they are like too ambitious like we try to look for people that were smaller than us. Basically well many dots because I was smaller. I was kind of a small guy. Well, I'm still as I'm still a small the wrong. I'm tiny. Yeah, we didn't like ask a guy you would have like 20 times or subscribers or Nothing. Yeah, and then they were like no, I'm looking for like bigger subscriber guys. It's like you got a good 20 followers. Hey, I can see why you would want to play on the server that has like a lot of people with like thousands or something, but I got to start I don't like I don't like those type of people not a fan. Yeah. It's like it's just a shame. You're all small YouTubers when you look at it. So it's like why not help each other grow and get better together and I feel that we've done for the most Every one of the common craft guys when we left Ripple Ripple was very or left for ripple. They were very big on helping us grow together and we've all seen major increases because we work together and didn't try to leech off each other. Yep. I don't like those bleachers. Mmm guys like just stop really yeah. I'm not a fan of that either. It's not I've met quite of them quite a few. Them and that's why I can't I don't know what I want to be like you'll stop leaching from usually pretty confrontational but sometimes if you're not worth my times and I just don't talk to you but I'm too small to have that experience I guess but it seems like they would be boring people as well. They probably don't have much. Input I guess they're just trying to impress you. Yeah, at least that's what I'm assuming. Yeah. I mean, I'm still like I said microscopic. I think I have a hundred and twenty nine Subs. So I've never had anyone try to leech off me obviously because that being so small but like when it comes to streaming I'm larger on mixer like I'm still kind of small there with 500 something Subs, but I'm larger than a lot of the new people coming over from twitch and I get people advertising in my thing or trying to join a play with it's like no guys seriously not cool this Shameless self, but it's like join our Discord and if you're a cool guy, I don't mind hanging out and recording and doing videos and stuff. But just to jump in my thing and promote yourself and leave not cool. Yeah. Don't do it guys, especially especially with me being as Tiny as I am. It's like no. It doesn't work. It doesn't work. Also, I mean if you do that then you get how can you like continue without getting the feeling like yeah all they know me for us like being pushy. Yeah, just convert the kids just don't have just don't have that social. What's that word inept did you socially awkward? They don't know how to interact properly. Yeah, which especially nowadays since like instead of playing outside with your neighbors. You play indoors with video games even worse lie often woke the the dark with my girlfriend and then I see like a couple a younger couple walk together and they're both looking at their own phones. It's like yeah. Why are you making this walk? What's the point of going on a walk together if you're just occupied in your own space? Yeah, it's a new gender playing Minecraft Earth with microtransactions everything vir. Yeah, maybe well, that's that whole like what was that game second life or whatever. We're like get the really make your own second life. It's like, but you have a real one. It's like I get ya games are fun and a great getaway. But to make my entire life in a video game. I don't think that would be fun. I would just be at home playing video games on my video game. Yeah, but people refer to like the normal state, but I get why that game is successful because people like think it's not unachievable in real life if they do in a video game. Yeah. Anything is possible if I also remember a lot of people Talked about it. It's sort of being you can go stay went to to work in that game. Like they had a job inside the gate never like now. I don't have to go like travel for an hour or sometimes you get to my work I get can just do it from here. I kinda can see the benefit from that but I didn't know they were actually learning a real income. What? Yeah how I think I think selling clothes and they're like designing and selling clothes and that kind of stuff start of a big deal. What if you were good at that you can actually like make my dad makes sense. That's pretty cool. I don't know if it's still going I'm a but it was big enough to sort of support that like people just bought stuff from each other. Dang. I mean, I don't know what everything was still was available. But yeah, I remember seeing a lot about that kind of thinks. Wow, jeez. I didn't never knew that was possible so much. I say that which Minecraft you have the skin makers in the mapmakers and stuff. I'm sure they're profiting off that or at least they should be well nowadays. You got YouTubers as well go in the Next Room that they sort of and I know some several owners make money. Yes A Pixelmon guy. I edited a trailer for him and he has like A couple servers running. I always like a good a hundred people playing on there, but he makes money off of it not much but he makes money off of it. See you could thanks could have a good work. I remember owning a was just for a short while so server for a different game and I was it was still in that like Early Access thingy. There were a lot of like pretty much all the servers had like, oh, yeah for like, Five dollars you can buy this kit and basically you would just buy like a ton of well weapons and all that and I obviously refuse to do that because I don't want to pay to win server. Everybody was like, oh, why don't you do that? Why don't you do that? And I guess if I had done that I would have I mean the guys who did that made quite a quite a nice amount of money like a lot of people both those kids and so it's I mean, yeah you can make it. My steel with money on that as well and see if I were to do something like that nowadays. I don't think I'd still do it for money. I would be like, hey, here's an super Opie storage. You can have 12 copper coins get the grinding. Yeah, I mean I would like to play if I owned a server I'd like to play on that myself obviously and I'm gonna own a server on my game that I don't like and so I'm not gonna Implement stuff that I don't want to see that's the whole point of starting your own server, right? You can make your own roles in the way it is. Yeah anyone else likewise getting ready to say I actually somebody has go ahead and get ready to go. So, yeah, I think we've pretty much almost make like well we pretty much Makes yeah, we really did. So now I need to talk to Carla and be like, hey, we're gonna release this midweek or do we want to save it for the next week? Let's make it like one to party. Yeah, just in one go. Well, we'll figure it out. Yeah, but Bank you can be found on YouTube and Twitter social media links in the in the description. Yes. Oh boy. Are we bringing new wing it just doing it. Yeah, you can find me there but let's switch it around you do that stuff and I'll do your stuff. You want me to read your bottom? That sounds really weird. All right. If you want to contact the show send an email to podcast that ripple effect that some people come Swedish turn on disk or just do that. That's the best option and yeah links are in the show notes. Yeah, the show has been brought to you by Bank of myself also dish producer Carl he ends up putting the show in the right spot. And that were those guys like the X-ray that's not a cool spot for our show to be the Amazing Music you hear in the intro and outro is Created by decoy. Both their links can be found in the description below Nina where can everyone finds you again? Find me at Twitter and twitch livestream on the weekends at night and Nina, very cool. Look at the show notes show. No Carl's got nothing. Yeah. Thank you guys for hanging out and getting withered with us and I guess digging in dirt because this is the dirt episode. Yeah, let's see like always bye guys. See you later.
In this special episode, DuDs and Bank are joined again by NynahNina, the owner of Lionheart SMP and a Twitch streamer to discuss how to deal with your community as a server owner. There is also a new 1.15 snapshot that fixes some bugs, helps with modding the game and improves parity between Java and other versions of Minecraft. 1.15 snapshot blog post: https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/minecraft-snapshot-19w36a  Podcast Website: http://rippleeffectsmp.com/podcast Contact the show: podcast@rippleeffectsmp.com  The Withering Effect Discord: https://discord.gg/gqnKyeZ The Ripple Effect Twitter: https://twitter.com/rippleeffectsmp  Guest:  Nina's Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/nynahnina Nina's Twitter: https://twitter.com/NynahNina  Hosts: DuDs YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/DuDs_vs DuDs Twitter: https://twitter.com/DuDs_vs DuDs Mixer: https://mixer.com/DuDs_vs Banks YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyg7sNFi_qMG2pRtTM4046w Banks Twitter: https://twitter.com/AardappelBank Banks Mixer: https://mixer.com/BankAardappel  Digital Producer:  CarlRyds YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/carlryds CarlRyds Twitter: https://twitter.com/carlryds  Music: DiiKoj YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/DiiKoj DiiKoj Twitter: https://twitter.com/DiiKoj  Podcast hosted by: Anchor.fm 