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So it isn't it but today episode 40 we have a guest a guest who's been on before a few weeks back Emily. How are you Emily? I'm good. Thanks. How are you guys? Yeah, not too bad. Nice to have you back nice to be back. Yes, and we're going to sort of somewhat continue the conversation a little bit from last time. So we focused on sustainability on the world. It was you know, what was the title? Maybe we're all a bit doomed but do with a brooding work involved and I think this time we want to hone in a little bit. We're on this Christmassy theme at the moment. So we thought what better time to do a podcast about way Just what we can all do that at Christmas time a time of excess. I think it's asking us very good way to put it. It's really hilarious indeed. So we're going to focus on that in the second half we as well as a few other things such as the UN climate talks, which is informed a little bit about this debate. But in the first half we wanted to talk to Emily about myself a little bit more and how she arrived at the stage. Here's where she obviously cares so much about the environment and it's the thing that she wants everyone else to be as passionate about as well. So we want to sort of understand that Journey a little bit more. That's all right. Yeah. Yeah, so I know you guys wanted me to touch a bit about school University because obviously it's very different for everyone as well. And that's obviously a big part of how I got to sustainability and why I want to build a business around a sustainable life and I think the place that makes the most sense Sense to start is kind of at the beginning. So that's very good. I think if you ask any child what their dream is to be they don't come out with I want to be a banker or I want to be the counter what about it over carefully say that it said it. So for me, I loved history. I grew up watching the mummy. So yeah. Yeah, I really wanted to be an archaeologist loved all that kind of I was probably one of the nerdiest children you will ever like for I don't know if the birthday presents normal girl said well the same normal girls all the other girls in the class did get like Princess toys. My friends would buy me science that I felt left out. So anyway, I kind of got the secondary school and I think turning point for me was the first every year 700 grams. So the the subject that I like the most like history and English I did the worst in just because I just couldn't write fast so you can't get the get it all down yesterday is so annoying and just having that I think I went to a very high pressure school or just high high high academic performance. So just the stress of not being think considering good at something. Yeah kind of lost interest in it at all completely and then it was like, well what we're gonna do? Yeah. Well what what came down to what am I good at if I look at a Humanities then give them the two choices your cat not kind of given at school, but that's reality. Its kind you're either going to be a lawyer or a doctor you pushed into. Yeah. This is very true stinkpot see right? Yeah. So if science I was gonna be a doctor then I'll just Seem to fit with the way School wanted me to go the way my subjects went so did some work experience and that and I remember just getting to the end of the week. Like I'm so bored at home, but I'll try I'll be better when it's my job. You don't really think it through you. Just thinking to get an interview. I need to take off that and then I think a turning point was definitely when I went to an open day with my mom and they were listing all the qualities of a doctor at the University of Sheffield like empathetic and patient. And caring my mom just elbowed me and when you've got none of these calls, well, I've definitely grown a lot more games. Yeah, and then I wrote was trying to write my personal statement and you the kind of got a kind of got back up all these qualities supposed to have not just like I'm just like everything I'm writing about teamwork. I've just wasted something. It means everyone's yeah. At that stage to do geography. I focus on the physical side of it and I remember writing about all these light rocks that I had encountered over my time. Like well not lots. Yeah. She didn't touch physical geography. It's so us you do for ya personal statements good grief. You have to be it's somewhat like your CV is well, it is what it is. I think everyone is a bit. What's the temperature economical with the truth National Geographic magazine? And twice a week. I've never read it what at subscription to issue magazine just by throat. Sorry go on then you find literally sexually but yeah, I mean everyone was like the thing is with with something like Madison was I five six years at the University then to Foundation then it just wasn't it's not like if I wasn't just if I was just making up on the spot, that's not really a gamble you can take with them a career that so long. So instead of thought you know, what biochemistry kind of fits the subjects So write another line personal statement, but slightly more truthful. So what what does biochemistry involve and what sort of things you do or did you ditch generally couldn't tell you what good luck condense everything I know want to like like an 85 piece of people, you know, it's ridiculous. But yeah, it's basically like enzymes and proteins. It's interesting. So remember with the University of Leeds being so close when I was in Louis X or stop very Table Six when I was like, oh, I don't want me to do not could do medicine. I went to the University of Leeds open day and sign every single one of the talks really just I find about the subject. So I remember getting the biochemistry one. They started talking about proceeding was like gasps. Oh, you know jobs over doing that panicked and end up doing it. That was six. He decided Yes. Actually I'm trying to think really from personal perspective. I just thought of changed what I wanted to do as well. I wanted to economics and management of your house. I you Decide like a well if you enjoy it, but be you got to think like what are you actually good at? What are your skill sets as usual. I wanted to do business our business management stuff like that and suddenly thought I would have said the Unis I wanted to go to a kind of shows uni over actual course, which is probably bad things too. So I chose geography instead by remember going to not seem you need a light, you know with your mom for an open day. Not your mom. For the very same as always we went all the way to not see him first. So we went into it's fantastic. Yeah, Mom was few. Should I eat to put a good impression as I'm um, they don't know who I am. I didn't go to a single opened it because I went to any merch my second choice and I'm going to take a gap year because I've never been to I don't know. What's it like it was I just off the core my second choice because I didn't get my think. I'm a great skill to you, sir. Missed out on you are nice-looking. I don't know how much an open day it sort of gives you insight to actual Unity. Does it I mean I did go to Bristol for me going to breast has more about looking at the city. Yeah, it was really nice hordes words and obviously shambles whores were Grim. Yeah, but that's everyone. Crystal Crystal, yeah, first year, you know what mine weren't too bad apart from they had like a silverfish infestation and when you have like insects things that like trouble in pipes, so so you have to do the whole building but they just sort of float by flight travel up the drain pipe. Yeah. So it's like you just disgust that's hardly but living in flowers like in the cupboard as well. It's horrible. See him or Syria. No, no the like proper little try to compare them to something without solid wide is the only friy Bay for it. So missed a big fish. So they're probably around the side. It's the main Asian either definitely not definitely some level on that. Oh, wow their goal. Was that sounds like a cockroach? No, no small that I said, I'd say like a mop with its wings closed in like a not a massive mouth Mark just like I'm gonna say the original Mark gargantuan, but that is disgusting. Anyways, yeah, but I mean in terms of that like I still had like an ensuite and when when the sole fish were there like a free course bad so I can't really complain that much. It's really really driven by sure toilet with Yeah, I think especially when you don't know the people you're moving in with I think he's just give you your own space a bit. Yes, I think you and so you in a flat. Yeah, because I think that was slumped slightly difference what we had like, so I think a lot of you need is just like this prison building recommended on Stewie. Yeah brothers that Community I realize I said that may be an obvious question. Well at least get you ranked what you want. So when I was like location or Self catering or en suite so the top of my desire. I need monster you gal far away from you dear. I am I wonder what that was because like sometimes when you have that sort of option for an en suite, sometimes you're like you stay in your room a bit more or whatever because you have because you don't have any transfers the toilet because once you bring this back, okay, so you need to satisfy about biochemistry. And yeah, End up enjoying that unit. No. No, I think by the Five Thirds of my attendance rate was like less than 4% or something ridiculous. Like I really I just I just it just you know, it's like the when they decided to plan University that like, right, what is the least effective way of teaching people and we are going to do it like that. Yeah, so I can't I can't learn by. Someone just talking at me, but also the speed they did it up and it's no time to learn anything. Did you have your like choose recorded so you can walk? Yeah, so that was a big big fuck you. Just watch mr. Or be very very start. Or you don't go in but you still catch up for that if you got mate, so I'll just give you the money. Honestly. I told my friend Oliver. I actually mentioned in the last one valve X into Rebellion like that all his podcast but she gave you like author note since I could year so I had a very nice trip somewhere forgive me my degree, but everyone needs a friend like that. Yeah when they need it most but yeah, so he didn't really enjoy it. No, and then we had so we had labs for six. Hours a week. So it's like you literally wow, you hold one day you're in a lab for six hours a day. I pointless experiments and to Counting proteins. I was seven. I was in total. Yeah contacts a difference in science and 28 ridiculous. I'm trying to meet people. Yeah, I guess you do me a lot of people only course the make sure you're actually going was in touch the whole Space your friendships or were they? Yeah, definitely. So yeah pretty much. My friends from my course and then just threw my the housemates and they're your friends but one of the girls a lot to the girls, I love with her from my course. She saw him at kind of everyone else. I think when you're in that a lot and you do tend to stick with your course with it being so intensive hours wise. Yeah, I think that's the big difference for people to think of, you know with Humanities and the more sciency based practices. Look at most. Holy any well, actually that's a lot like quite a few people did history but my friendship it's wood from the course. It was from outside that yeah, I have like I had four hours a week and it's all on a Monday. So I had six days off from we obviously you like like I can do all my summon our work on a Tuesday. I have three weeks Sunday night at 9:00 a.m. Every day every day, which is probably why my attendance rate dwindled. So worse. I just I just be obscene a kid, I'd get back from 9 a.m. At like 11 o'clock and I just sleep the rest of your rights. I'm not surprised. No name is to remember that. Has he been socializing and there's good old days when we all had made run lives. When was he sort of neighbor when you're like right here. I actually want to do something different away from my calls. I don't want to use this to go into a job. When was there like a specific moment? I say the turning point was during that I think the labs was a turning point. I was like, I can't do this. I don't want to do this. So that was my first indication and then I got a job working at Manchester Airport. In duty-free, so that's where so I start work at five o'clock in the morning finish up at five o'clock, but not just that so Airport parking because I wasn't I wasn't consistently there because I was at Uni I didn't pay for the parking because it was more than what I would be learning some of the months because I wasn't working the whole month and they automatically just take off your wages. So I was getting up at 3 o'clock in the morning to walk to the airport because there's no park anywhere with your whole heart like security reasons. How long does that take? Here 40 minutes. Okay, that's at every morning for that shift then start on my feet all day and I think Jean Paul Gaultier the perfume tipped me off the edge because I was just in the sailor costume for 12 hours in the same spot and then you'd have people what will pass out any rationale get away from me. Get away from me in sailor costume. Oh, I'm the best part of it is when you see if you see any of that adverts. They have like this Opera noise. Yeah on TV behind me for 12 hours. If I every time I see Dad where I throw something at CV honestly that I used to watch that all the time. It was on its are halfway through one of my favorite shows but the same the costume of love in that big fan of what are the bottles of aftershave look like that bodies. Yeah. Yeah. I'm trying to do is like the thing Jean Paul Gautier. Yeah, I'll try them in the shop and maybe a family and it was horrible horrible. I just character building. That's what this ER. Yeah. Yeah, you know what, but I was living in a different time zone to everyone else and I thought My as actually paying a lot better than most kind of student jobs. So I just can't I can't do something. I hate the rest of my life and I looked at back at my University experience or so, like getting myself slabs. It's a struggle and that's pretty much the one compulsory attendance thing I have and I'm not managing to consistently do that. Actually enjoy anything I'm doing so I kind of looked at what what can I do? What will I enjoy doing and I don't have been big into fitness because of my because my mum and I done before I was in sixth form. I was working a receptionist at a gym. So I was like, well, I'm just giving you a PT qualification is something I love the love exercise. I love training and it's something I'm passionate about. So that's why I was working so much over summer to pay for this personal training degree. So I did all the PT qualifications and also because it's quite it's like thousands of thousands of pounds to do that. This is Petey Kafka 3,000 pounds, so Then try and find out what uni, so I was paying that off for like a year. So it was working at the airport for a bit when I was still trying to get PT clients are doing a bit of pitting and doing an academic internship at University. So I had like all that going at once didn't really I mean I did obviously had the student experience but after pitying for because I was petting here because I thought well, my plan is I can't suffer client base and leads and then finish University and with Manchester and then not have a job. So I was traveling back and forwards from leads to Manchester like multiple times a week PT and it just I think just the traveling was part of that but it just didn't have time to exercise myself. So I really fell out of love with my own great Fitness thing and then I got to talk to brother of my final year at University of so, I'm not ready. I've worked three jobs a whole time. I've been here. I've not really hard bop University experience. So stop eating I thought whilst I've enjoyed doing it. I will My clients and training people and just getting to know people really it's a very social job and it is great. But I just thought this isn't going to be a long term thing for me kill it kill just say I respect that so much like that growing like, I'm actually I'm so taken aback at how that is. So impressive to balance all of that at such a yeah, it was it was it was tough and I think I think it was just a realization of when I finish University these kind of I know I'm not going to use my degree. So these three years are kind of Of not Wasted Years, but my years to kind of get out everything. I need to feel like I need to get the most out of while some young and I thought it got dr. Tobin of that not done this. I think the longest I've ever stayed at University for its two-week sot Corey over here. So I just love those months close as well as hah. Yeah. Hah. Yeah. How long did it take to get back an hour? What's start first year when I was fairly new to driving that now 15 by the end. It was a 55 minutes. Yeah, when you first start out Joe you first you first like yeah when you're driving, I think that's the best the best and the most. Hey, yeah, I remember going for a whip-round there. As soon as I passed my test and Mike are on notice for this vol 5 they have to do is rush hour traffic. I was I was I was I was yeah, but now when you I think when you're closer to home, you have the tendency to just nip back at the week. Yeah, one of our dear friends at lead to know she does that as well because you weren't if you have the opportunity to iíd recommend it obviously not everyone can what go home. Yeah, cuz obviously like distance wise without you over there doing bro. Yeah fortunately, but you are completely he had the opportunity. Hmm. Just just to like refresh become a human being again, you know away from this beauty lifestyle of just I don't know it's hard to keep a routine sometimes isn't it? So home can just reset it. So I see it as we say only go. But yeah, I mean, it sounds like I mean, I respect that so much. I'm real. I'm just the amount you were balancing a young age is yeah. It was it was very very fun. Yeah, but I don't know I wouldn't change that. I think might work it work. Ethic was probably a lot stronger than but I think I probably did need some more more time to unwind after all that then what I gave myself, I think when I first finished University, I was like right I'm going to throw myself straight to my business because why well, as I was I'd been partying and doing everything else. I'd already kind of put into the The process of thinking about what do I actually want to do? Right if I'm not personal training and I'm not doing anything with biochemistry. What is my plan and that's when I started to plan my company so I can sustainable clothing company so that all been in the works for about a year before I finish University because I originally wanted to launch it was I was eating I was like, come on can get caught. You don't have time for anything else. I mean it was something like starting your own business or even do even my degree at the end of it. I have to give it. 2% if I wanted to make it work and especially starting out as a young business owner. I'm gonna have to give that a hundred fifty percent. I can't do that when it comes to see a uni, so I think when I finished I was like right give yourself a week go on holiday come back and start the graft. But if you're not ready to get him something you need to give yourself the rest your mind deserves. Otherwise, you're not gonna be able to function correctly Society sometimes sort of tells you the opposite tells you right you got Crying, you gotta grind straight away. And I think the fact that you do that as an incredibly mature decision decision that we recommend people do when we like, you know, if you want to pursue something properly make sure that you're you're going to give it your all not 60% Yeah, which is what a lot of people will do. I think supporting is because obviously work hard throughout school. Don't you obviously the schools we went to as well quite intense. I think it is important to take a bit of time out and obviously you need a few is quite quite not So long, but yet, like I said, yeah DPT stuff is good that you've actually taken a bit of time and you have more time to think about it to be honest. Why don't you really plan out what you want to do rather than just rush into something then that it not working perhaps because you rushed into it completely. I think you said that really well. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Definitely. I mean also times change that markets change. I had to hold business partner to be completely scrapped and redone but it was good because it gave me like a fresh start. Yeah, so but all together I'd say to anyone thinking about going to University units into of the course. It sounds ridiculous because I didn't take this advice when I was given it so when I was about to go into a levels, I love German at school and I'm quite good at it say with art and and I remember my gym teacher saying I know your candy you like it and I know you're considering doing it. And then what is your reasons for not wanting to do it and it was the I didn't think her getting a star on it. So that's so we're calling an adult-sized eyes, but a lot of people think she said you can't just do something because you don't think you got The grades in it by the time it wasn't the most important thing to me. I think the sweet spot is between enjoyment in your grade as well as like, you know what it would be like a Venn diagram and there's sort of overlapping and you will not have sweets. What were you gonna do but you also enjoy because it you need this is what you found out like mmm. If you enjoy something you will do better. Yeah, the only one long just that she's like what I found obviously the units in geography were okay, obviously choose what she needs to do. So I was that I was a bit of a bit of a poor sport obviously. Human and I'd say about 50 to 60 percent of the unit's I did I didn't actually enjoy really short like that philosophical geography exactly what you want to do the choice. I know economics didn't have much choice. You have to choose your class Shield Works given us at the yeah given a question. Is obviously but which ography thought that was the person obviously I did better meditation because I actually enjoyed it got some me was actually like capture the whole. Yes, you do better what you enjoy? Yeah, but with so we're sustainability. And as you mentioned the company that you are hoping to well, but you will sort of start in the next year or so did that love for that field and that passion for that field start in University or is it started? What do you think? It's developed as you've left University? If I think my kind of environmental my passion for the environment and things like that is that it's growing that all the time I get more and more extreme with with the things I want to do or that my students kind of towards it. But I think it was more of a came more of a result of the person. I became when I was at University, I think there are different reasons people go to university genuinely passionate about their degree want or they want Icarus do with the degree but The lessons I learned and just the person I became through University and also the people I met was worse all the that I'm in now and it wasn't like Wasted Years or anything. I think I went through the hardest things I've ever been through in my life whilst at University and I think before that I had my parents have given me such a wonderful life that I never really nothing bad ever really happen to me. So that's probably why I wasn't that interesting caring because it's hard to if you've never truly experience anything horrible happens. Happened to you can't you can't appreciate what's going on the people's lives because it doesn't occur to you to think about that. Trust me. We know we know that one. Don't worry and I think yeah rise with your views on empathy because it's very true. You know, there's one. This is a big thing like sympathy and empathy is so different putting yourself in that person's shoes is empathy like feeling bad for someone who's obviously sympathy like saying, I it's all right, but I think it's very hard to learn about the unless something bad. Padilla you can put your eye and you know a lot of people struggle and some point with everything. I do really what you said actually because for me it's about is like we discussed this on another podcast to me about what we've actually learned from unit. It might not should be historical facts and job the geographical Fox Sports is about the skills you pick up and you learn a lot about yourself. Then you're living on your own for example dealing with perhaps loneliness and how to go about that. I think that's the key thing person who goes into uni Me and the person to come out upcoming used to being at school 24/7 and looked after doing yes, you do encounter problems, but it's just dealing with them. And yeah learning of our said I think thats starts key process. It's a process and I suppose one thing also. I mean I'm going to ask sort of everyone who comes on but like did you find it hard in first year because I think this is a thing that was horrible. It's horrible. I mean I'd a lot going on at home. So my parents had just were going through a really rough time their marriage and As the oldest child a kind of talk that pressure on to me. Yeah, and just I just I just don't think first the first year these beats only one is is tough for pretty much everyone everyone you speak to us like first it was horrendous, but you never you never hear about that. So you kind of like am I the only one that's feeling this lonely that's that's quite recovered. Like I said dinner which episode it was but I did read some other university 50% of people have encountered some sort of loneliness is episode 23. Oh, yes. A half people. Yeah. Yeah, so I go no, thank you for being you know on this because I think this is we want to have this. Well, the reason for this podcast I guess is that everyone has had that time especially first year first. She was horrible. I look back at your life. Realistically you're in a new city trying to meet new people all the time slot of For it unless you have a big group of people, you know for home that it can be difficult. I think if you know people that helps a lot but still at the same time, but again you learn about that's being one stays your life that you can actually take on board. If they write. I've got through that pretty much. I love the empathy that you said you've you sort of Gone In from yeah, that's sort of turbulent time if you will, I think yeah, I think overall I think I was just giving perspective. That's that's beautiful, but I think when I think When you find a find yourself in like a desperate Point your life think once you come out of that, it's you just it's you're a different person because of it and also you see the world differently. I think just an appreciation for everything was definitely a changing Factor something. That's why I care so much about I don't know what you see things differently. Like when I look at a sunset now, it sounds cringey as fun but I don't know just taking the moment stop and appreciate that and just the world the beauty of the world around us. But then back. Empty if you see all these bad things that happen in the about like the environment like the natural increase the national not natural disasters. Yeah, and you just doesn't sit right with you. You can't you actually thinking that oh my God, these people are going through that losing their family their lives have been torn apart. You just can't sit back and just see as a statistic anymore. Of course. Yeah, so genuinely perspective caring get on the plane that to the world, you know something that obviously Madras probably want to do more. That's why we you know, we love learning from you. And and this is what we gonna do in the second half is given to a little bit more about what we can all do and I hope that everyone you know what I know every will be listened to a lot. Well, you know who I was I was perfectly poor so candid and I think it's actually a beautiful place. Yeah. Yeah. I just keep the baby comes a shit and bring in our world-famous pointless fact of the day. I was want to join in by Shot didn't get caught. That's just a fact of the day. Yes. Love it. Love it. I was I was really nice all the different octaves as well. Yeah, who would like to go first? Not me? Okay. Well, I'm gonna go first it's not interactive. So goodness. No last time is short. So you've got over that now have no no no no. Short and sweet. So Australia and Taiwan have roughly the same population of about 24 million. However, Australia is 200 times bigger than Taiwan. Wow, that is straight as a big coin Trinidad the whole of the Outback like the whole of the Middle Ages. No one lives. It's crazy. Cause you got Perth on one side and that's like sort of one of the only major cities and everyone just moves down it. So 24 million I think is all like 25 million is population of Australia. That's crazy. There you go short and sweet Lolita. I was going to say how many times bigger is Australia didn't I was how many times 200 have two engines other one, right so that we go short sweet who's going next? I'll go next. So I'm not actually sure how legit this fact is I think it is. I think it is. So apparently vending machines kill four times more people per year than sharks four times. Yeah. I believe that I can believe it. I think a lot of the facts to do is sharks. Like you saying earlier, there are people actually get killed by sharks is very insecure. But then there's sensationalism in the news. Like I said, what does it start? Oh my God. Yeah. It was wonder if I live in the Seychelles. This is a few girls that got rhythm who are currently like. Yeah, her mom was that had one was out on the boat? She's got it. No, no sharks like when after all of them today, but yes, it's like but that's that's like out of the six point six. In people warm, it's horrific. Obviously a lot to try to them that but it is crazy how you know, I want me driving. We never get scared really do we know it's all about this last week were me I don't know it's just so that you basically are here on the road. For example, it depends on other people doesn't it so might you might driving perfectly but if someone comes into the back of you as the side of you that, you know, you can't do anything about it anyway so I can almost find what this act. A little bit of a selection going on here, but I'm going to go for one that you may have heard earlier. But I spoke to you is that the average person spends six months of their lifetime waiting for a red light. So in green? How long 6 months of their lifetime waiting for a red lights angry actually Furious is three-halves R Johnny said, would you rather we always it was would you rather constantly get stuck at a red light? I wasn't it or half slow Wi-Fi through rest of your life. See I'm reading this book the moment. That's basically I'm telling you about loads of different things but saying but one of the factor of that is about anger suits your goal to be angry. Okay, then I think about things like traffic and now it makes me so angry and I just sit there thinking. I'm just trying to make myself while you're here. I need to stop this calm down. There is literally nothing worse when you're driving in every like just so yeah, we're still experiencing that they actually I think a lot of people felt about of arch. This is I was following carve just stick the speed limits, okay? Sort of Us video and it's called off its hangers following this car is National speed limit Country Road and stealing about you still thirsty. Okay, which is absolutely fine. I'm not sure there's anything wrong with that but it's very stressed out a lot because I like to go 50/50 sixth inning. I just went 4-4 miles is going 30 30 35 always get speeding up know it's nice because like that we get to the 32k. He speeds up to 50 it just Rises off. I was like wow. Well, that's good. I bet that's one of my pet peeves. Hey, yeah Barry mud, I'll bury one other in front of the it's not really break the speed limit now. I'm I've never had an issue about you killed subject fantastic driver also similarly to my speed awareness course is that so let's see drive 10 miles to get to work for example, and you're running a bit late. If you drive that see break the speed. Let me drive 85 miles an hour down the To rather 7c realistically. All you're going to save is about a minute in time. Yes, you don't need to be together. There's no point because you're only going to arrive a minute earlier. It's not going to make a big difference. It's not that I think it's the pressure from other drivers, you know, if you're sticking to the speed up and you've got like a pretty aggressive driver behind you like for me could be tranquil over like the past we need to do it. Sometimes that is just not feasible. Is it it's fine safe safe place pull up indicate. Check your mirrors anything for bypass. It's not it's not gonna be as hard shoulder maybe so but we are digressing once again, and that concludes all three of us up up up up up up up up idlers fact of the day. That was nice. Nothing to do with what we're going to talk about the second half. So it's best to break it up for the point of fact section. So obviously learned a bit about how you got to like this field and your time of uni, obviously. Thank you for being candid about that. So now we want to talk. Well, well follow on from what we what we talked about on the last podcast we did which is more to do with what we can all do in our lives to make it a bit more sustainable bit make the world a better place. I think that's a good a good generic quote for everyone, but I just wanted to start off this section actually because yesterday or the day before was actually the end of the UN climate talks that happened in Madrid in Spain, which is why I did that selling kits on Jackson. But basically they had a clock as the logo with the tagline Time for Action. You know, this is this is what it's all about with Greta tunberg as well like it's time for actually this is a two weeks long these climate talks and it was very hopeful cop 25. That's the name very hopeful that something had happened and there be some big decisions. So they were to sort of main goals who is questions over-ambition. So this is an individual governments up in the until-- their climate change policies and making them faster making the better making them a priority. And this is obviously just to reduce greenhouse gas emissions and then there's also rules in the Paris agreement. So this was the idea of global carbon markets. So this is like the big discussion point of this is it's kind of weird. It's like trading the right to pollute so you can trade sort of carbon pollution credits or most yeah. Yeah. It's on your own. Is I don't know is looking at the Paris agreement. It's an age thing, but they were very hopeful they were very disappointing results basic. There was everything is pushed back to 2020 as always. It seems in head Pub in politics. Nothing's ever know. So yeah, we'll talk about it next year because it's Friday. So I basically it was pretty poor commitment. And that's quite sad, you know, there's been a lot of Hope in regards to making governments change and it doesn't seem like they're quite on board just yet. But a question that I wanted to pose to both images. Stir to start and I'm not going to talk about climate change too much, but I thought was topical. So there's a the key issue that I think is, you know, these traditionally strong countries from an economic standpoint, you know, these industrial Nations the US the UK, but Allah, they're the ones that caused all these issues are they so these sort of countries that want to develop melzer countries in Africa, for example, starting to develop an arm or they're now being somewhat held back by These restrictions are being put in and I don't want to say it's not fair, but surely the issue lies with the bigger Mission countries. So it should we be enforcing these laws and countries that want to develop when it's actually our countries that have caused this mess. Yeah. How is that China obviously challenge probably one of the biggest yes liters the like should they be like imposing leadership? Jeans and the US on these other countries that are just catching up. Yeah. The question is cut canola is a feast it has to be all United and United Nations. They all have to agree hundred ninety three countries all have to agree. So it would apply to all of the countries that are a part of the you at so that these restrictions that are putting would be on every country. But how is that? Yeah, I think is that I think is really tricky one because it's easier for us to say. Oh, yeah, you just you just do all green. We'll just get on with what we're doing. This one thing. Is he freaking farted in terms of when the Industrial Revolution was massive in like Wesley. Yeah rest of world or like England in particular in particular. We've all been down to style Mill for portraits and coats to Manchester and their parents that time like they talked about the working conditions was just pretty much as making money and for those people to go and do it. They were on they would that was them just paying for that family. Yeah, and it's the exact same could can one. Like conditions but exactly situation these people in these developing countries. Their main priority is not the environment is no funding their family. Yes, and you can't can't judge someone for that is that was anyone's first priority done the ours and we bought a hundred and twenty years ago. Realistically. This is the issue is I do we need to work with these countries need to put in more of an effort as the countries that are sort of industrialized first and to help create a Greener future whilst allow these countries to grow. Yeah, I think definitely there. Kim is definitely that but when we were having our Industrial Revolution the technology for kind of green sustain carbon-free energy was wasn't there but it's now it is but can these countries afford to do it that way when this is a question, that's why I didn't want to like I said last time in India the smog. For example. Yes daddy is 30 times worse than the the average loss is also terrific mom. But hot, how do you go about that? It just comes from the top Justin care. Yeah. Well, this is the other thing like well that will there ever be a grievant ever at this rate? There won't be time to be an agreement. That is very true. I mean with what is it the commitment to the sun year 2015. This is for stuff or shit out. She starts to hit the fan her the fine. Yeah to put it lightly you have little but I anyway I thought I was just starting to kick off his top call. It happened. Past few weeks, you know something that people need to look into research with more the Paris agreement look into this top 25 anything that happened between someone someone needs to take the what I was five I would onus so I was in the lead. Yeah because everyone just going to wait until someone else does and let's go to come to the big countries like China exactly US the US on even in the Paris Accords you do that. Yeah. Absolutely. So Trump tried to pull him out didn't he? Yes, like a year-long process or something and obviously he's about to either be impeached or being scared of me. I think he's gonna win again quite easily I think because they just got a way of tapping into that demographic. It's got yes or no food for Arch the last night. Is that me what are these blue? Which on BBC obviously talk about Trump in this just the advert was it was like say why is it safe Trump or Trump is gray like just it was so fast. No, but this is I think it's just art school or some goals that to sort of kick off this chat about sustainability. And today we're actually going to focus on the customer side of it's going up two Christmases as mentioned at the start time of great success and it's like what can we do? That's quite a small change to make our Christmas is more Eco code. So because our interests and store-bought food first that is obvious. We talked about maybe food and then actual like presents and stuff. Can I hit you up with a gues quickly right in the u.s. How much food as a percentage is thrown out each year. So so I in the US the United States how much food as a percentage is thrown out each year 40% Yeah. I was gonna say four words for that. Did you both these two both know that is that I just know a lot of things that common knowledge now they're kids. 40% which when I read that asset, that's that's a long thing. You know, you'd think I'd be closer to 20 percent which is still a lot but 40% and I mean I suppose at Christmas time that will grow even more going to be close to the city and it's just this is to the UK's this is Unilever. They said that the UK throws away over 4 million tons of edible food during Christmas, which is about 30 percent of our total new annual volume. Sorry, it's just intensifies. Doesn't it? So how many minutes pliers thrown away in the UK? I Christmas. Well, I'll go off or you can guess first. I'll guess like a mince pie. No. No, I don't. I don't like the supermarket. Mince pies. I can't say I never really tried them back. I guess how many thrown away each year TV million 7.5 million. There are so many pigs in blankets all oh God. No. So I thought it most Insidious that 20 million. Okay, I think you've overstepped the Mark again 707 41 million Pigs in Blankets, which is enough to match the weight of a thousand kilograms of leeway, or if you can picture that at all blue whale made out of Pigs in Blankets. Yeah, but I mean is it's about this I think the way to go about trying to obviously he's the sort and actually help. It's actually plan what you're going to eat. So my mom last night said that she waste a lot of food because it goes over that it goes goes over its date. We don't eat it quick enough. She buy all this food and then it gets to 24th of December 11th, you end up throwing it away. So I think it just planning in general and really kind of obviously need to buy a lot because the shops get busy down there and stock up basically and then another thing is to freeze food. Yes. I don't think a lot of people freeze enough food to eat the food over that three days, you know for me. Christmas Yeah, well, yeah leftovers there's loads of creative ways. You can feel bad laughter the food to food these bones. I think I mean you got it's just can you find a local one is that you know, well because in Manchester that for some people that might be some recycling centers do have like well it's like canned food. But yeah if you want to drop so I mean we did that with finish University all the stuff you had in your company means it just fell beans always got eaten something else that I can end up in there. That's the thing to see You can get a Christmas dinner in a column. We see that and they go well sounds throat I think supermarkets are getting getting more involved as well. So I was reading last night the pilot Audi there Step their game up quite a lot. They're basically giving all the leftover or on the sell-by date food over Christmas or laughter Christmas Eve to Charities. And I think there's now five hundred Charities involved in the program. So Last thoughts a good idea to do this fantastic in terms of packaging though, you know, that's that's a big addition coughs. Oh, we just got onto the packaging just quickly because it was a thing that I just read before we came on air. So in the guardian this is just to do with food but like very quickly scared me a little bit to be honest. So they see these two giant called fatbergs like a you know, an iceberg of fart while Ross is just showing me the dinner in the car. That is absurd. It's called Chris. - Timur this is got now by three course Christmas dinner it is that is that is awful. Don't let that up Christmas together. There you go. But right so these two giant fatbergs are removed to the sewers in central London and one weighed 63 tons 63 tombs, so it's been so there's like this play basically for customers to not poor fat down the drains oils and fat which is a I think a lot of people do that fortunately. So just think this Christmas one thing if you take anything away, yeah don't pull down fat and oil down the sink at Christmas because these giant colossal that boots but just for being under the ground for my mom's voice omelets for fact that she keeps me in like empty coffee jars. Yeah, the other thing you mentioned packaging packaging is is a problem, isn't it? Yes. I mean, do you and your household have you thought about how you can make it a bit sort of more eco friendly with the package inside of it or yeah. Well, I'm the rock this year right person. So just give it. Is it just wrapping up and I will ask you can you do the just use wrapping paper? Well, I think so with wrapping paper the basic the problem with it is that it's it's got like a plastic lining on it that has to be separated manually. So just can't be recycled. And also if you buy really cheap they'll see the dies in it. Yeah, it's a good size is big problem of how I messing up the environment. But yeah recycled brown paper is a good way to go and then you can get these really cute wood and stamps and like kind of me. Your own and I've been seeing a really really pretty pretty designs like online where people like wrapped it with string and put so Christmassy looking plant it it looks really looks really really nice, but I don't know some people always like renowned like one of my auntie's everything every Christmas beautiful packaging like you got a bow, you got ribbons or Sparkles amazing. So if she's going to she sort of person that she's going to put that much effort in any way. Yeah to make it all look pretty she would do that with More eco-friendly Alternatives. I think if you're the sort of person that's gonna do the effort. Anyway, why not make the effort to make a eco friendly or not sexy. That's a really great Point definitely unwrapping it goes in the bin. This is a thing you see it for roughly five. So you don't even care what's on the outside you care what's on the inside then you video and take away that you know when your kid will disagree. So what we tend to do is we use bikes. So Christmas Boggs that we've used for the last ten years. So we'll keep we always make the I'm Jody seay the same bags every year so I'll be like I've not seen this before but we use the same ones and wrapping paper. Try not to use wrapping paper, which is literally put it in the bag maybe a bit of tissue paper over the top. So you still got that surprise of feeling you don't know what's inside the new site that saves it and also some it's quite interesting is that in the department of the environment food and Rural Affairs estimated last year's wasted paper would be enough to wrap up again Z. But it's also another little thing you could do is to try the scrunch test. So anything that does not hold its shape when scrunched into a ball, it's not recyclable. This is bad. I mind. Yeah, but yeah, I think it's a thing that we could all cut down and in on the other points of how how durable things are etcetera and about Plastic side of it. Yeah, it's Christmas trees. Yeah, so do you think getting a real or artificial tree is more environmentally friendly what depends if you're getting so you get an artificial like one of the massive. Yeah, I think ones and have it for two years and throw away. Obviously, you've got the plastic waste and energy cost of making that but party have to have it for ten years before having an artificial tree is actually better for the environment. Yeah, but there are different things with Trees now, but you can rent them in a pot. So they just go back to be planted. So it's not the obviously worried like when you if you do get a real tree what happens to it? Is it going to be chopped up for Ward? Is it just me or is it going to go back to your answer? Like this is interesting which is interesting bit of information. So it's you me or artificial tree has roughly a carbon footprint equivalent to about 40 kilograms Greenhouse emissions. Okay, so that's the artificial tree which is more than twice that Of a real tree that ends its life in landfill and more than 10 times that of a real tree that is burned. So you'd be better off bidding the tree of some not saying do that than spine artificial tree unless you keep it for 10 years and then balances out. So these are just important things to think about. Obviously. We don't take advice decorations and stuff funny video. I did see our Cellini whether you've seen his the home. The girl was obviously video on her mom guess in a tree at all. They decided to just roughed up from the previous year it all she does is just take the side of fade off and it just opens up and it's already decorated from last year is all got stuff on it's quite funny. You can't buy them now pre decorated and yeah, like I said Son and barking it's quite interesting looking at the different initiatives there. I wait till you can buy our edible trees and yeah it was it little brother Rosemarie trees. Yeah that you can use obviously S6 for their little table decorations you can get but there's so much you can do Justin just ones her think that's what we're trying to say for this like just pick one small thing. Don't do it. Although me like DNS is ruining my Christmas. Just choose one small thing that we can all do I need what would you say is the easiest thing that people can do this Christmas that's or more eco-friendly. It's I think there's a lot you can do it Christmas. I wouldn't necessarily focus on Christmas if it's one. Thing get the bamboo toothbrush get a bubble. That's what an extra bit of plastic and it's not like sort of thing. You have to think about every time you go shopping. It's just in your cupboard. Oh, yeah. That's the easiest what we can do ask for that for Christmas. So yeah, everyone wants some boom toothbrush. That's a great suggestion. Yeah. Exactly. Even that's a little thing where your little things I do. We said this in the last podcast and we like if everyone did a little thing and make a pretty big difference. And I like that I would ask for but selfishly is a big issue with the presents that people buy a set of people by others. Yeah. So on average we got 17 presents each individually. Think about Harmony. I think when when you younger okay leads for you when you think about how many presents you know, I actually use yeah, but that's what Christmas is about weeks ass is capitalism is a series of presents. And up going to the tip the week after Chris, but also think about how many presents yamanashi used and you don't actually need and maybe by experiences for someone in started. Well, there's lots of similar very good point tickets or even gift card. She's spend on something you want that I think that's a fantastic Point experiences are a great one Oxfam obviously started doing you can sponsor a goat for example continued if animals are absolutely President is so in Scotland in like the national parks. They want to protect that from being built on so you can actually buy up like a tiny patch of tiny tiny patch of land really and then so yeah my one of my friends my sister bought her this oh, she's technically a lady. She technically lady Jamie because you get the title with the landlord can't yeah, that would be so good. That's a nice gift and iterative. I will put the link in the description of for that either. Everyone can become a Lord and Lady and do their bit for that for the London same time. So what have you guys asked for Christmas socks, I've got to the age now where I just don't have any socks anymore pants a hoodie and that's it. Okay. Mine's actually very own theme. I've asked for some Lush packaging a free foundation so that she just comes as I stick. Yeah. Yeah. Fantastic. I'm just a couple of jumpers but of aftershave. Yeah. Well, that's easy. Are you standing struck is that now people have nobody to go Auntie I'm getting some deodorant though. That's a glossy semi-liquid. He's got such that as but let's be fair. I've got some point now where I'm actually not too fussed. It's about the day it's about food. It's about having a nice time and just kind of soaking it up earlier. The Builder pie thing is more enjoyable than actually yeah. I mean like the calm down off. After as well, which is a bit. What's that new year period you come to John? Yeah, I've got nobody I'm done. I'm done with with going out and stuff. But yeah, no, I want to finish this chat with a happy note, which is, you know, some cool initiatives that we've found around the world these sort of, you know startups or whatever that are the trying to do. Positive things with regards to becoming more eco-friendly maybe packaging or whatever carbon and we've all found one each of that cool things. There is stuff being done whilst it might not seem like the government's are necessary on board. There are things being done. So we all have one. I went first for the point of fact 71 else like to go first to their initiative. They fell I will start please. So the thing I found is called Cobb fix and it's based on tax base. Iceland and what it is is they are turning carbon dioxide into rock and obviously Rockets very permanent. So that carbon dioxide is now locked up which is a great way of getting carbon dioxide out the atmosphere fantastic initiative you I never even like I didn't even know that was a thing. Yeah, that's amazing. That's amazing. Yeah, they're actually doing it for well since 2012. So he's well, you see that's what you wanted to use. You want something like that to be mainstream you so you're like, wow, that's cool. You look into a lot more instead of, you know having to hear it on a pod you'll be With the BBC did something on that, you know guys, I think that's so cool. Yeah Ross of you got one. Yeah, so I think a lot of people know this but I've see the the ocean cleanup and which is a nonprofit organization which basically develops Advanced Technologies to obviously reduce the world's oceans of plastic and I think it's crowded needs to be done. So there's come up with all the different Technologies and developing the developer basically. Feet of systems on the ocean cleanup has been estimated to be able to remove 50% of the Great Pacific Garbage Patch. You say that every five years exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's obviously modern. I was kind of made aware of this. I was reading a magazine called the drum which is like a marketing magazine and they've obviously one of those rewards for their campaigns that they've run especially on their Instagram if you on their Instagram is quite interesting link down the description. Yeah, of course and they put loads of videos up and I think that's hugely important. I mean, I'll be very interesting working there to be honest. Yeah or doing something for it. So there's very sides. Yeah, so credible fantastic suggestions, but seeing of the day taking the day. Yeah, so mine is what I was looking at startups really cuz startups take a lot more risk than companies, you know because they can they get funding to take risks. So there are a few you know that stood out so there's one called Loop which you mentioned in the last podcast so dear Emily, so Oh, I didn't choose that one. This one called T / which is israel-based has huge funding and that both to do with packaging and biomaterials and basically removing packaging in a way, but the one that I think really stands out to me is called not to play which is a london-based starter and basically pioneered is edible film made of seaweed so you can package drinks and sauces in seaweed and then eat afterwards which I think is so cool. Then they've also done gone so pretty much sushi. Yeah, but with drinks so really on board, but they also did this really cool thing to democracy where they handed out like water pouches. So you just oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's it rather than plastic bottle single year fucking some with bubbles. Yeah, you pop it you have all the water either knows so I'll be thinking about you walking. They had these like Banks. The water. Mm-hmm. No, no, you got to be like obviously aren't ya that's what they actually do. Yeah, I think books life saving the day. Yes it there are some great things happening as you can see in all elements here. People are starting to come together to try and combat the issues that we sort of raised but Christmas, you know, obviously we want everyone's had a lot of fun. It's just something to think about if you can do one small thing this Christmas those eco-friendly Deb a bamboo toothbrush, whatever it is, but just try and do one thing if we all do one small thing it can only really add up to something quite great and look at me. I just appreciate you come back on again, you know the second time myself again. Yeah, it was fantastic to hear, you know a little bit more about you as well. I think that's something that we like to deal with this podcast a we do re do SI. Thank you. It's nice to know that other people especially with the stuff we said with first. She never never was Was a bit this year though that you don't realize that you want to do maybe until you've left uni. Yeah, that's another big thing. You don't have to like go into Union take your degree and use your degree. It's something that will happen maybe later on in life. So these are all important things. So thank you for sort of raising those points. Obviously respect the grind so much to keep going. Yeah, you got an exciting exciting times ahead. Haven't you? Yes, hopefully very nerve-wracking times, but it just got to take that punch. Yes, that is a great advice some Be nerve-wracking is what your the plunge? Yeah, you don't regret anything. You don't know. Yeah not do anything. That's my kids. You don't know until you try it was a classic they were depending on the situation. You don't have the money to do sad thing. Yeah, just be careful because I do that situation. So think before I did but but it was in your lies wrong. So I just want to thank you so much for coming on. I mean maybe a part three is some point in the future something big, you know, your customers are friendly. Yes, but we've got a few other things lined up this A few moments each other work with with people. We don't we don't actually know that the contents are said interviews just yet. But we've got we've got a few more lined up wanted to bring you some some Christmas Joy at TNS. We've had to sell our research and easy. I hate Christmas. I'm Scrooge Scrooge, but hope is a lesson is Christmas Joy enjoy it, but we'll be back in the next couple of days guys. So it's Health kitchen window see it.
Welcome to our second interview of the Christmas period - Episode 40! Today we welcome back Emily to the podcast. Emily joined us for episode 34 to discuss the human impact on the environment (make sure to give it a listen if you haven't already) - something we build upon in today's episode. However, before we delve into that, we first explore Emily's path from school to uni and beyond. She tells us why she cares so passionately about the environment and making a difference, and how this came primarily from developing a real sense of empathy whilst at university. After our Pointless Facts, we then hone in on how we can all make our Christmas' more sustainable in little ways, so as to not spoil any of the fun. We raise issues such as pouring fat down the drain, food waste, wrapping paper & even the issue with Christmas trees. Christmas is a time of excess and thus, if we all made one small eco-friendly change each, it could make a real difference. Stay to the end to hear some cool initiatives taking place around the world that are tackling environmental issues! We absolutely loved this episode and we hope you do as well. 