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Everything is looking good man. Just got to get past all this rain. Yes that everything's great. Yeah, buddy it got hot out to Lucky. Yeah, it's sorry man. I knew it was going to do that as soon as as soon as that weather board. I knew it was gonna get to 90s instantly. Yeah. Yeah. I just ran before we started this I ran to get a little cup of coffee. And yeah, man, it's already hot and steamy out there this morning. So but so Rodney, why don't you tell us how you got in a kayak and start a kayak fishing? Yeah, no doubt. So basically man, I was looking for something to take up my time I was doing A lot of things, you know will necessarily happy about you know, Friday night to go out to bars. She hang out with your buddies and I was doing a little bit too often. So I'll say you know what, I'm gonna go back to what I used to do with my uncle when we was kids. We used to go fishing on the Fox River alive. All right. Uh, so yeah. Yeah, so I went to Walmart one day just out of pure like I'm about to switch things up bought me a Mitchell spinning rod and I went out I went out and I went to BuzzFeed. Was burned out skunked skunked that place up every day. I mean I skunk that place up for at least two years and I was on YouTube. I think it was when he to really start to get crazy with the kayak Bass Fishing and I see no I see Chad Hoover on this kayak. I said what that matter of fact that he was on a commander. That's that because that's how long ago it was right. He was on the commander and a man that's got to be cool man, cuz I'm tired of standing on a bank about this time I got Five rods, I think my gear is up to par, you know, and I talked to my wife and I said hey babe, I think I want to get a kayak and after you know pleading with her and going back and forth. We finally get to Bass Pro Shop. I get a kayak and I think that was 2015. Okay. I got a kayak now mind you when I got the kayak. I never never kayak fish before period and now I think it was 2016 beginning of 2016. When kbl hit the The same okay, and they hit they had their first tournament at schaben. Aw. Okay. So I took that a sin. I think it was a sin FS 12T. Okay, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah for a town never been to kayak first tournament drove all the way out to shop without man put the drop the boat skunked it up. They have be I know what I was doing it Lawrence. I think it was a Lowrance Elite Four. Yeah, I've had one of those. Yeah that the whole inside holes so nard type of deal. Yeah. That was my first introduction man. And that's why you know, I got out of bed all the guys from kbl at that shop and I'll tournament man if I'm not mistaken. I want to say it was 2016. Yeah, I think that's that's about the time they started up I believe from yeah, when we talk to Alan it was yeah. It was yeah 2015 or 2016 but I'm almost positive. It was 16. Yeah, I figure I heard about him. It was 2015 that was as launching an internet website. And then I think 16 was there when they open a crack that first tournament out there and I've been I've been rocking in every sense man since 2016. Well, I just met you. At the Chicago fishing show for the first time this past winter and you know, we chatted a little bit and I was over in the Rock Town Booth you were looking for some stuff and I was like, yeah, I'll get it for you man. Let me let me go to the shop tomorrow morning. I'll pick it up and I think I remember going home that night. I'm like, who is this Rodney Hicks dude, and I went on I found your Facebook page added you as a friend or whatever and then I went to your YouTube page and I remember seeing you fishing a kbl event. You miss like a bunch of of bass or something and it was I think you put the title like the Mike Iaconelli freak out in a kayak or something along those lines and if you guys go search for Rodney's YouTube page and it's like Rodney was Mike Iaconelli that day for sure and I'm like my it this dude is is pretty energetic. I like this guy, you know, and we've run into each other quite a few times here and there at events and stuff in between and it's been great getting to know you. And you're just a super humble laid-back dude, and you know, you're out there, you know Chasing the Dream, but you know, and then not only that but I remember you were at the NC this year and you had a video you put up on your Facebook page. It's not the one you showed me. Yeah, that was the one that showed. I showed mr. Ricketts last night and and it it says something about you man, because you were Like cold. It's been raining tired. I could have gave up could have went home and then you're like boom hold up a just a slob of a bass, you know. Yeah, and you know, that's the one thing I like about Rodney man. He just he don't care. He'll just sit out there and he'll go for it until he succeeds man and he's a go-getter. So that's super super awesome man. No doubt. So we got kind of similar background man five we started back. 2015 on a Bass Pro Ascend, it's kind of my same same type of Bodo most. Well, you had these sit on top I had to sit inside. But yeah same time for a man's crazy how things happen to you over a short period of time relatively short. Yeah. Sure. Heck. Yeah, man. Hekia. Well you fish you know, we just had sushi roll off on. Okay, who she's a she's a great anchor man. Yeah. She's she's a stand-up chick man, and she's a great. Great advocate for the sport in general but she runs great lakes kayak fishing and you just came off just recently had a first-place finish in one of their events man. Yeah, I did. Yeah the Long Long Lake and Round Lake event. Yeah. It was a second stop of the series which lake were you fishing for that man long? I'm sure okay. So you want to run us through like what you were throwing and you know, yeah, no doubt man. So let's go. I had two days of prefix on that Lake and I was throwing a Bill Lewis rattletrap. Okay, and then alternate with that with a spinnerbait White Church throughs I think it was the sling Z from z-man. Okay. Yeah, so I was doing that and I was getting bikes each one, but I felt like I got more. Bites on a Rattle Trap and every time I get a bite on that route if that by getting in this grass, I believe it's called Curly Pond weed grass and is real green real wavy like yeah, and I figured I was like, you know, I'm getting bites every time I ripped this grass. So I kind of like slow down on it and kept it moving, you know figured out my other. Oh, yeah. That's my wife. We got another guest appearance tonight. Yes, that's awesome. Yeah, man. So alternated between that's that rather trap and that spinner bait and I was like man I got I'm getting consistent bite. So let me go ahead and not rip them all man. And the thing is about long late. It's a pretty decent size Lake but it's like one of those communities spot Blake's, you know, you got everybody that's going to come up with to those points or that or whatever. Iraq is Edge or anything like that? So it was like I get there like ice guy already there. So I gotta go around and come back and do all this and that but on tournament day man, I stay with a Rattle Trap and you know, everything was one of those times where everything went great, you know, it's only you don't get that to all thing where everything falls into place and and it did that day and I think I right 90 inches and took home big fast as well with 19 and a quarter inch Kicker. That's a good day of fish man. That's it. Yeah the fish and it's a good day. I mean we had will still have an inconsistent weather at the time. I knew it was still it will still post bond, but I knew they was moving up, you know, cuz what have warm days until we got we have cold fronts. So I knew they were moving, you know, they want to really quite up to the bank yet, but I know there was hanging around in that grass and that Rattle Trap. Was that stat reaction strike? That was the key. It was all on a reaction. Heck. Yeah, man. Okay, that's slick. That's slick. Let's talk a little bit of catch boards. I don't think we've really talked catch boards with anybody here recently. So, how did how did you get involved with Duke and catch and all that good stuff. You know what man ironically I met Duke the same glad I met you man. I met him at the I think it was it was last year. I met him at the Chicago fishing show. Okay, and I was I think I was working a deep belief that year and I was able to get it I was able to get away. And I'll bring up till I think here it was him and his father maybe another colleague or whatever has talked to him a little while, you know, you know shooting a fishing stories back and forth and me and him to stay in the connection man. I think he fished we fished a little bit together last summer and just earlier this year man. He asked me if I wanted to come on staff with him and that's how much you know, you know Duke Duke has another stand-up guy man super honest. With you and also he's a realist man and I really like that. You know, that's a lot of guys. I hate if you don't come across that's you know, straight to the point, you know, and they truthful with you sure and I like about him and you know, he's funny as hell. Yeah, you know, so he asked me to jump on a team and I was like man absolutely absolutely I've wanted to do that, you know, so yeah, that's how that's how I met with them and now it's been going great so far this Yeah, I know. I met ducats Chicago fish and show this past winter as well and it was the same thing like I chatted with them online because I had to make up my catch board and you put you put the paddle in fin logo on the fence for me. Yeah, you know, I was like, yeah, I saw some chitter-chatter in the in the kbl group chat and he said something about he could do logos. So I messaged him privately and I was like, hey man, like You do my logo, you know and he's like, well, you know, if it's if it's too intricate, you know it I might not be able to do it and I was like well, let me send you an image. He's like, ah dude paddle and thin like dude, this is easy. I got you and I was like, all right, man, sweet as dude. Yeah. He's like I got this don't worry about it. And I was like, well, thanks man, you know, you know, I'll promote it and you know, if some of our listeners want to snatch up some of those catch boards, you know, hopefully it'll I produce some business for you. So you know with that being said guys if you guys are listening and you're looking for a catch board you want to put that paddle in fin logo on their hit up hit up catch go on Instagram or Facebook, you know hit up to can he'll set you guys up man. Those boards are spectacular. Yeah, and it's not a gimmick. No not pay it one bass jump off that board on me at all since And it now what they now with their yellow hog trough all men it will split if but watch the video like brain was sailing with the yeah. Yeah, right. They're plastic all thought was my dad. It really was. I don't know. I don't know because of different texture. I don't know what it was. But those when I was first shown that cash board man, they stay on there for some reason they usually do I've had one flip off recently and cost me an iPhone, but we won't go there. That was it the FLW kbf event, but that was my fault man. I had my my catch board on my lap. I got lazy should have had it on the floor my boat and I had fish on there was holding it with the left hand going to type in the measurements with the other one in the fish. Just kicked hit the bottom of my phone and up in the air into the water. It went so crazy. Guy the biggest problem with that was is I had a waterproof case Tethered to my life vest for my phone, but I had taken my phone out because I was like man this thing is too bulky. I put it on my vest purposely the night before and then guess what happened? So needless to say, I got a set up now or my phone is Tethered to my vest at all times, but but no man those I mean, it's crazy with the Cradle on the catch board man those fish. Just sit in there and they don't want to move most of the time, you know, even even when we were just up in Madison and I was catching small mouth man big smallmouth. We're just chilling. They you know had no issues with small mouth jumping off that board whatsoever. So, yeah, if you guys are interested in the catch board go check those out at ke TCH and then another thing that Rodney's part of is never lost gear. I would definitely pick up another lust To go along with that but I'm not you were talking they got Rod leashes and stuff as well. Right Rodney. Yeah, man, it got they got they got the whole shebang. They got Rod leashes. They got a kayak had a leashes utility leashes, especially for guys like you who got they got the utility leases help you out with the cellphone or GoPro. If you don't want to drop your GoPro off the side of the boat, like some people I know that yeah and the past. Yeah, mr. J Randall. Yeah. You should have never had a utility that policeman. Well, I give my heart I give him a hard time because he's on savior outdoors and saviors got that little bobber thing that screws on your GoPro they do and he didn't have one on that one. So it was kind of funny when that all went down and our previous hosts Scotty, you know was like hey Jay had a had a savior Outdoors device on that thing and I'm like, oh, that's right. I should remind him of that. So anytime I bring it up. He gets all flustered and pissed off but that's all right. It's just Jay. It's just changed. We love Jay Jay's a good dude, man, but he is is what about Dakota man Dakota lithium. We haven't had anybody on that's on the Dakota lithium team either man. They're coming out with Um cool stuff man. I were sure they have that power box. That's got the lights and everything on it. That's pretty slick, man. That power box is awesome. I've got that on my radar. Keep my GoPro is charged and stuff like that and when I phone because I like to use the the GoPro app on my phone, but it just kills your battery. Yeah. Yeah. Just your ass is your battery. So I'm looking heavily at that Dakota lithium power box for sure. Hey, man, get it man. You you will not regret it - a fantastic investment. I even had it on my New York trip. I just recently came back from New York family bro, and I had the power box with me because I was using my GoPro. I'm going to see you know, we got that walking, you know charge your cell phone on it, you know put my GoPro do I use it every time I'm out fishing to how many batteries can you fit inside that I heard maybe two or three is that correct? You can put either one of their batteries in there or you can put any other brand better than that, but I recommend putting a battery in there. I got it right here, honestly. Yeah. So yeah. There we go. How much does that weigh this right here, and I think this thing is about That's a good question, bro. I believe it's about Under five Astound us definitely under five. I think I want to say it's right around 300. Wow, that's not bad at all. Right around 3:00. Yeah, man, but it's the 12 volt 10 10 hours man that thing going to run all day. Yeah. Yeah. So if you want to use it for your GoPro and at Power bugs, but just make sure you supply a heck a little bit of micro SD cards because as far as juice, you ain't got to worry about it, man. So it's really all time. A day power man. Yeah, nice. Okay. Yeah, that's super slick man. I got just a cheap like Vexilar battery and that thing weighs a ton and I use that to run my my Garmin 9 inch and you know, I usually get 10 hours out of it, but it's the weight thing, you know, like lithium batteries are so light, you know, and it's not only that. That but I know they make a bigger deep cycle battery for run and trolling motors and stuff in Torquay toes. Right? Well a tornado comes with a battery but you know comes with a battery. But yeah Dakota mom, actually they got a better yet that you could run and I think one of my buddies David Brooks use that better at the national championship, bro, you said it was awesome. Yeah. Yeah, and it's like I think it that battery weighs like I think when I looked at it, it's like 36. 40 pounds. Where's that make my normal deep cycle batteries like 65. I mean, that's the model wait. You're cutting. It's a lot o that's a lot of weight you put on that boat man. Yeah. Sure. Yeah. Yeah, and it doesn't help that. I'm you know, a freaking Giant and way like 260 pounds, you know, so, you know anywhere I can cut weight definitely helps, you know, yeah, but that's saying a lot about how these kayaks are built man. Yeah. Absolutely. That is for sure man. That is for sure. Like I tell everybody that comes Into the kayak shop up there at Rock town, you know, it's like you'll fall out of these boats before before you tip them over I said when it comes to fishing kayak stabilities in mind for the fishermen all fishermen want to stand and fish out of their boats be able to move around things like that. So you'll pretty much fall out before you tip it over or you got to be in some pretty gnarly whether to get that boat to tip so really narrow. Yeah, I would say really naughty again road now. A kind of inexperience as well. You know when you out there it does get choppy just got to know what to look for and then you got your recreational boaters out there who want to go out there and go to band and you know, you got waves hitting you from left to right. You just really gotta know how to maneuver around out there. So a little bit of experience. Yeah for sure. You gotta stay calm be freaked out. You're going to go swimming. Oh, yeah swimming real quick. Oh, yeah. Here's one. I'm interested in talking to you about your part of Doomsday tackle. And I know I got some of their creature Bates man. Like how did that call come about for you? And what's kind of some of your favorite baits that they make. Oh man. So doomsday tackle man. I've been with them for four years. That's they really gave me a that's like probably one of my first Partnerships and it really gave me a shot and it's got so much respect them. Working for that company they based on the Chatham Virginia the owner there. Do you know the owner? He's the owner and he also is the be Creator, you know will Stewart, you know, shout out to will store man great guy man comes up with some crazy patterns on his on his Lords. But yeah, I was with them for four years. I got with him for years ago, man. Have I would say my favorite bait and my most consistent date? I have to honestly it's the Roku 5.4 and that's the best a like they just a straight or Cinco style worm. I was just saying but it's a gap is five-sided and that's it's packed with salt bad. It's actually really small skinny and diameter, but it weighs more than a sinkhole itself. But the great thing about it is you can It was able brought to mind to do the Nico style fishing. Okay, but yeah, so it's heavier than a single but is this don't get that fat diameter profile that a single has sure sure sure and it got that smaller Japanese style, you know, you can really finesse it you can I like to do a wacky rig man, and I'll skip that thing underneath docks and that's the key dude. I tell them up that way. Yeah, you know for sure my second bait they came out. With last year is they swim bait? Okay. It's the yeah the shadow. Yes, the little boy. It's just called a little boy and I was just looking at this product. They got some that's one big on a ChatterBait man is money. It's money. It's a little wider feta profile with the real body. So instead of having that Tails as flapping like that because I have having that flatter wider profile. It gives that that's one bit of wobble like that. You know, you put that ChatterBait on there man and intensifies it and it's awesome. Do I call pipe mom? Actually my personal best trophy Pike came off for that swim bait up and I'll put walkie last year that you see on Facebook. Yeah. I'm sorry that Muskie came off of that off of ChatterBait with that doomsday swim bait on there. Nice. Take a look a man. Yeah. I'm looking at that Roku now I see. What you're talking about? It's a little skinnier diameter. And yeah, it's like instead of being round. It's got like squared off sides, right? Yeah, and now will that was that was mate intention to graph more sunlight so you can tell that so that so that worm will be more visible when inside going down in the water column you go. However, it goes down you grabbing life from you know from from the sun and it kind of So our entices that warm as it goes down just to make it more visible to the fish, you know, gotcha. Look at the look at the Doomsday see Shad best Shad imitation I've ever seen in my life on a bait. Yeah, man. Now that was that was designed from a tendency Chad man asks, what's the drop shot? You can use it for a drop shot. I've seen guys actually put it on a scrounger head as well. It's got its got the foil in there. I mean when a shed flips to the side it looks it's Texture so shiny man that I mean that's spot-on even the body shape. Look at the body shape. Yeah. Yeah. Thousand I'm just spot on heck. Yeah, here's my credit card. I know I got I got some of the Devastators man. I love like crayfish patterns. Like that's one of my like go to klutch things. I know I got some of those Devastators and the Reapers the three good at those think it's the 3.2 s but Yeah, man, it's going to lose our the 3.2 is our awesome and if you want that finesse, but I would say definitely go with that 3.8. I love 3.8. That's the extra length. You can on your regular size jig and it's crucial man. For sure how the movement on those they pretty good. I mean, they're pretty it's Rich. You know what the moving on there is really subtle you talk about the reaper. Yeah. Yeah, it's real. It's real subtle. Yeah. Look at the tentacles on the mall or two. This front appendages. I bet those get some man. All right. Okay, that's a lot of water to those mall is catch a lot of water. I pay get on a 3/8 ounce tungsten weight or whatever type of weight you want to Pagan with and and go Flippin with it man those appendages. They move man. It's a they look great underneath what I does that tell you that that's also why I told me to put some money back from vacation. So I had those for cart we're gonna Short this month. Yeah. Sorry hon. Had to talk to Rodney Hicks had to pull out a second mortgage. You know, that's a box come to the house and your wife. Look at you. Like how much did that cost? So baby don't worry about it. It was sent to me was it was it was great. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Arrived for you dot and then run - and I'm like - I didn't beat her home and I didn't beat her home crap. It's like when your kid trying to get trying to beat the mailman before the report cards. Yeah. Yeah pretty much man. Pretty much. I just some dude to have had their stuff shipped to their work office. The warping. Your corporate career is in this big box of lures are come. They're like, hey man, keep it from the wife buy me some time before the credit card. You'll statement shows up. You know, it's too funny man. I've paid my wife all she doesn't give me any crap. Honestly for we go buy something. Yeah, so I did back-to-back tournaments. I was gone two weekends in a row and you know, I paid her off with a Ooh, Michaels corporis us here you go. There you go there, you know, you gotta you gotta come correct man. Yeah, he was just great to say some I pull out that purse. I didn't I still haven't heard anything about that nice. She's been silent for a while. So it's got power. Yeah. I'm going to I'm going to be gone the next two weekends, so I didn't even have to buy the purse man. I just took the wife out for a nice dinner last night. So I'm in the clear for the next two weekends. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but yeah, so Are you going to so I know Rodney you your fishing? Mostly Great Lakes? Are you fishing some of the kbf trail stops this year? Probably not that cable. Trust up by dad was at the Madison event. Yep. And dude. I'm still I'm bummed about that. I don't even want to talk about that tournament. But yeah, that's probably the only one I do that was with the Great Lakes. Yeah. Yeah, that was a great lakes, but it was a I think it was a KB of trust up, correct? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so I'm not I'm not too familiar with had a Trails die. What I next truck stops are going to be but if it's something local like that, I probably do it again. Okay. Got you. Yeah, the next one is it's the weekend of the July 13th. It's in Iowa on the Mississippi River. Mmm. So, okay, it's not closed but it's close enough compared to the some of the other stops. I was curious. I didn't know if you were going to fish some more of those or or if you were just fishing the one in Madison just because it was part of the Great Lakes why it was a part of the Great Lakes and it was close. You know that was on the Periodic three hours away from me. You're not even by two and a half hours away. And but more like I said most of their time it's our so, you know spread out like Ohio. I think that's what six hours if I'm not mistaken from us. Yeah. Yeah. So like that's that's kind of cutting it too close, you know, I'm off every other weekend and then, you know trying to do that family time and try to do other type of tournaments man as it's just not in my schedule. So I prettiest a with the Great Lakes kayak fishing serious, you know, I'm trying to get a kvl tournament in there somewhere. But yeah, that's I'm going lakes and kbl if I can bear it away from Michigan. Are you? I heard I was about four hours. Maybe five. Yeah. Yeah. It depends where you're talking in, Michigan because you're in Palatine, right? Correct? Yeah. Yeah, so he's closer to the city me and me and mr. Rodney or probably about an hour from each other 45 minutes to an hour. Gotcha. You know, it takes really yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It depends on traffic, you know Good Old Chicago traffic, you know. Once you get out this way, it's you know, you're kind of in the sticks rolling through cornfields. But you know by Rodney, you know, it could traffic and stack up real quick in that area. But sometimes it depends it depends. Yeah, you go down the right Road you end up in some corn fields that here too. Yeah, that's true too. That's true, too. But so what's kind of like your favorite go-to technique when you get to a new body of water. Want to start finding some fish. What are you tying on? What are you throwing? I'm tired. I don't know. I'm tired on the builders. Rather trap man. He's that's what I'm throwing on. I'm comfortable with it. I can sling it a country mile I could cover water quickly. And if it's fish out there on the reaction, I could grab them. Yeah, so, yep. That's what I want. That's my that's my go to show you certain color or is it is well, I'm not familiar with that one. So you ought to forgive me is it that's what color? I do multiple colors. I don't have a color favorite. I just had to stay with like a shadow pattern, you know fed of it all that's the forest like a white greenish, you know, maybe got a little bit of orange on the belly or bluegill pattern and some like that nice sure. You mainly mainly a power fisherman then are you guessing? Yes. I am one of my favorite, you know bass fisherman was Kevin VanDam for a long time. And that's the way he powered Fishman. It was like it's You know, you don't power fish is it's dope man, and I'm I have patients but to sit there and throw we list bait that all day is it's as mind-blowing. You mean you really got to have patience like that National Championship you van down there and I'll Caddo and those other lakes and Louisiana and Brian. I don't know if you will stare, but that whole that whole tournament Was on a weedless Cinco bait kitchen for two days. I met you mean you had to be mentally and physically focused to do that and as and it's really tough and I that's not something that I would rather go out there and throw her out a trap or ChatterBait or your score of them, you know, yeah that's having you know continued motion with the cast instead of sitting there and casting and waiting until you possibly feel. Bump it. Yeah right now, I know Jesus same way men. He's you know, he's a huge power fisherman. And you know, I mean, I was a power fisherman for a long time and then you know recently I started getting into the Finesse game just a just a have a wide variety of techniques and stuff. I throw you know, and I think you know, I don't think I've ever I think usually if I'm if I'm going out I'll start throwing a Chatterbait. Debate or Swim bait. And yeah, if I dials like a good pot of fish on and I got a switch up to finesse, you know, I'll I'll do so but I'm the same way a man finesse fishing can get grueling sometimes especially if especially if there's not a hot bite for it and it's a fish every hour or some you're just like this is brutal brutal. It really is brutal man. Oh my God, you know, but it's a time. It's a time and place for it. You know and I always have to you know, spending setups setup either an egregore Jerome wacky rig, you know, because it is a time and place for especially got a lake when it got dots on it, but I'm okay with the Finesse fishing if I can visually see something that I could toss it at sure but by being in an open body of water and you know using your electronics to and throw on a Shaky Head on a hunk I can't do that. Yeah, but last year lay down. Or definitely what I was definitely my favorite thing is like my see Doc's I'm a skip that Cinco all day, you know, but that's like a power efficient a yeah, but it's it's using finessed, you know, sure sure sure sure, totally power Fisher to in it and I switch to finessing and I planted a lot more fish. And and for me, I'm probably one of the few that I've never had any luck on a ChatterBait. I think I'm fun. Especially the rivers. I think I only landed. Yeah actually about three weeks ago one small. Out on a ChatterBait, but you know this just a few days ago. I'm in a buddies talk to me trying to get me into the jig game. Right so ordered a bunch of Jake's and threw it out there and you know, I nailed that 17 on a jig and I said, oh man, you know because there's it's at least here when he gets her daggone hot man. They're up under the bank's, you know, they're really tight covering. You cannot powerful, you know, there's definitely time in a year, but I found and that finesse fishing is really working for me. I I think probably out of the out of ten fish nine of them been on finesse fishing this month where though? Yeah, right, huh? It's always it's always do to add another weapon to your to your Technique man, and only make sure that better angular, you know at the end of the day. Oh, hey, absolutely. You have to commit I committed to this entire one weekend. I just said hey, I didn't bring anything but two rods one of them was a spinning was a casting us at all. I'm fishing a soft Plastics this whole weekend at it. Bring nothing else Basalt plastic. So I was forced to use what I had and figure well, you know, yeah and I was throwing a fluke the second cast I threw a flute I thought I was hung up because I like to I like to pitch really heavy cover to and I just yanked on it man. I pissed that fish off because he just shot I was like, oh man, I thought it was gonna go down there. And so yeah, there we go. Yeah, it's that's something we always try to promote on here man, like pick three techniques a year and just kind of dial those in and add to the Arsenal. You know, it's it's like you said Rodney it's only going to make you make it way better fisherman. If you got all that stuff in the toolbox, man. So yeah, that's cool man. I've I've been working the Shaky Head lately. That was one of them and I've been doing really good with it, you know. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. Dig it and it's it's good only to bring a couple rods, right? Yeah. I'm a guy who's multiple rods and I like if I'm Tournament Fishing I'll bring multiple rods. So I don't have to spend time time lures yet. Right, but it's also good to just go out and only bring to and learn how to tie those damned louvers fast in case there happens. You know what I mean? That's a skill. I don't think a lot of people understand that you need to be able to switch lured really fast. Get your knots down get it back in the water just drink a couple rods and spend time practice and doing that. You know, you'd be As how much better angler UV. Hey, yeah, you're right about that. You know, I got any beginning man. I used to bring I still do but I carry seven rods to my tournament seven rods saying and I guess about four or five of those rides got braids on in the Montana flowing her leave her to fluorocarbon leader to it and I was finding myself taking entirely too long to retire that leader or I'm trying to use this not for this presentation this not for this presentation. Other simplified the whole thing. So I had about samurais. I got to ride that. I actually use braid and I fish those straight braid. Everything else is fluorocarbon. My spinning my spinning a guy. Of course, my spending got is going to have braids but I still want to try that fluorocarbon leader, but I committed to tying a uni knot on that floor current leader and I committed to just going straight polymer mems is do the polymer is you know, you bow bow bow, you know, it's done. Yeah, and I'm not about to or I can't remember the name of this not think it's called A Smith not but you are do it like almost like a clinch but you will bring it up this way and you'll drop it down just go around the plate like that and loop it back through that hole and sink it down. And that's a really strong night and it's very quick. So like you were saying Rick is man just having something out that way you can adjust to really quickly it definitely, you know plays, you know has a place out there too. Absolutely. I carry seven. Same way at man. I carried five casters into Spinners all the time, right? I'm Tournament Fishing. I have seven rods. I use Double Uni knot and then I use Palomar knot combined, you know into time. I leaders and stuff like that. I've got it. You know, when I first did the Double Uni man, I've just these more working, you know, I was like man, this is the pulp but now I'm like little fingers look like sausages, bro. Shots fired shots fired two weeks ago Somewhere In My School. My my braids was I only throw straight Blair Braden and we're carpet leader. I don't have anything else on my my rods somewhere. I got snagged my line was snagging it busted off and I saw the line floating on the You know and I was able just patch it up real quick get it back in here in case there's a fish on it. Luckily there was not and I was able to go ahead and correct it after that but those skills man. They go a long way there's a lot of different situations we needed to learn that you know. Yeah. I'm kind of similar to Rodney man. I used to run braid floral leaders and all that stuff and I really simplified it this year to man. I put ice pooled all my rods. Well, not all but I think I got three real spooled up with braids just straight braid that I'm using for like topwater. Sometimes I'm running straight prayed for a ChatterBait things like that. And then even my spinning rods, man, I run straight. I think my spinning rods. I don't know if it's a hundred percent floral. It's it's the Pline floral clear line and then use Some of that too and I think it's like a floral coated mono or something. It's something like yeah, but I was familiar with a copolymer. I believe that's what they was calling. Yeah. Yeah, and I pick that stuff up when I was down at Nikka Jack because I had I had to re spool rod and it was cheap and man. I'm really digging that stuff man on my spinning rods for the Finesse. I'll usually run in eight pound. Eight pound in that and you know running and Ned rig or Cinco or you know, whatever. You know, I'm just kind of simplified it and I'm always straight polymer not that's the only not I ever use just because it's fast simple and easy, you know, when you want to save some time, especially in that tournament scenario, you know, every second counts, you know absolutely does. Yeah, I could type Alomar pretty fast. I mean, it's pretty simple, but it's Really effective. And actually, I think I might jigging Rod I do run straight braid. There's no leader on that the P line. I like the P line and I like to River fish but the rivers here have been blown out for six weeks straight, right? So I haven't been able to do that. I'm spent a lot of time Lake fishing but in the river of the P line was let me download from right I had to get rid of it. And then I upgraded to 20 pound fluorocarbon from American tackle the Bushido fluorocarbon. Yep, and that's that's a game changer and that's not just because I'm sponsored. I buy them. I mean that parades or eat or that floor. Oh, you can't get it because it's always out of stock, right everybody's buying it up. As soon as it comes out and they even came out with 300 300 yards Bulls now and it's always out of stock as people buy it, but it's legit super it's super durable man. I love it. So it can even hold up if your River fisherman, it'll hold up pretty good on Rivers, too. So yeah, buddy. It's a little brine plug there. He's got me saying yeah buddy all the time and my wife's yeah, but it's catching on man. It's catching on I think you know, yeah buddy one more time. Now my son saying it yeah, buddy. Yeah, buddy. Yeah, buddy. Yeah, buddy. What was that? Larry the Cable Guy when everybody would would say get er done. That's all I heard feel like every day. Yes. I'm start. Yeah, I'm starting to yeah, buddy. And so yeah, you got it. It's all good buddy. Come on. Come on. What a t-shirt man. You gotta get a t-shirt. Yeah, buddy. Yeah, I we had one we had one but the it only ran for a couple weeks. It says yeah buddy on the back, but I think we need to permanently put that in the Arsenal, but absolutely yeah, I grab one for sure. Oh, yeah. I'm trying to grab on then decoded shirt you got on in that That hat man those that swag man like that. Yeah, I like I like that style where they put the logo off to the side, you know instead of yeah. Yeah. Yeah bam bulky right there and have another so I wear hats like hairstyles. I got like 50 hats. So Dakota, let's talk me and I need one them hats I can get you out there man. So, uh, I'm not familiar with this man. You turn around the you're on the deeper team what is deeper? I'm not familiar deeper is the castle sonar buddy. They based on a Lithuania. So basically it's a it's a wireless sonar, you know tied up to your ride and you cast it out there you use your phone and your tablet a comp is got a signal Wi-Fi inside a so you can actually cast up to I believe 250 feet and still get a reading from Um from your sonar to actually map out an entire late you can map out a river you can put it on your kayak. It comes with a trans do is come with a transducer arm as well. You can put it right on the side of your kayak man and use a tablet like I do you can you map the whole like I'll just like you using the Lowrance or a marine unit or anything like that. You got a baseball to their baseball the size of a baseball. It's three ounces, you know, so I will record I would recommend actually throwing it on some type of a heavy action Rod or swamp a ride or something like that with braids but it's a cool little device man. I was using it the other day. I was out in Buffalo Grove for mapping out a lake now. That's where it really shines. You know, if you're a guy who you know. Is small reservoirs or you know small lakes and ponds and you want to go out that actually see what that bottom structure really is meant throwing a deeper deeper proplus. The the the picture that you get on your phone or your tablet is fantastic actually has a specialty conceived by the tation. You can see the fish around that vegetation and it has the key Essentials to the water depth. It has the Water temperature, you know and it just has a bunch load of a smaller other little things on that app that you can use on your on your day out on the water and I app is completely free. So if if you looking at getting a beeper and you not to sure you want to see how the technology look that's going on the Apple or Android store, whatever it is and download that deeper app and you can run the simulator right there and it shows you exactly how it looks when you are using on the water those R sub 200. There's two right? Yes it is. Yes it is. You can find you can find them on Amazon, you know dates Pro dicks better dicks. I don't know about Bass Pro Shop, but definitely dicks Cabela's Amazon for sure. Yeah. Yeah right on so I see him. I see him all the time feeling string. I'm blessed to here in Cincinnati. We have feeling stream Cabela's Bass Pro all around us. So would we get to pick whatever they're all within driving distance and always see that deeper and I don't own one personally, but I've seen it all the time. I've done a lot of research. Oh man. I really want one of those because I mean it let's say you're on a budget for a fish finder. So your lower in units like your Garmin clear views and stuff like that. We rich clear views, but that deeper man you cast it out to 300 feet. You bring it in and you if you work it like you were to like a fishing Zone man cut it cut it cut a section water and just dice it up, you know, you could really get all that stuff and and you're right. Like I've looked on YouTube. I've watched the apps it It's weird that you actually are talking over that we brought it up. I'd finding out that you were part of that program because now you know, I can ask you some more questions because I was something I've wanted for a long time and they were on their Zone some time. I see him like a hundred bucks, you know, Mike yeah. Yeah for sure. We just introduced the new one which is the deeper chirp. It's the deeper style Church technology that they just introduced a text should be hitting the shelves pretty soon. You have to have an entry level which is the deeper. Our and I believe that when is sub 150, I believe that comes in about one night. So they float, right? They float on top of the surface. Yep. Absolutely for all you River guys out there. This is definitely something that you would probably want. You know, you can throw it up River and let the current bring it down. You're going to see anything along its path. So that's actually what I wanted to use it before because I'm a I'm a huge River dude and I was like man, that would be money right there. That would just be there. That's exactly how I was using it because it had a had a little bit of a breeze out here on the water looking a few days ago how this casted towards the wind. I mean the wind not gonna deflect the thing is 3 ounces so you can cast it where you want to catch stick right sides cast cast it up current and just let it drift all the way down and I'm like, yeah, that's that ego that ego. Could they made it floating is is killer to because if you ever cast it snap off for some odd reason, you're not going to lose it, you know? No, it's good. They're on the water. That's it. Absolutely. What else is China's about it only takes. Put it into the USB port and you know, the thing on the only takes 2 hours to try to get a full charge and battery life on it. Like how long does it run the battery life on it is for hours. Nice. Okay, it is four hours. So you pair that up with the Dakota lithium power box and your money all day. You can keep it charged. There you go. There you go. Damn, because I was going to say that the only because everything has a pro and a con right? So the only con is that the app will like any other app on your phone will drain that battery. Yeah, absolutely. You know that that's the that's the only con about it. So if you having something like a power box or having some type of power supply to keep your phone charged while you out there man, you go all day. Yeah, so for you know, my power supply always use a knock you up. We're my I have a Lowrance Elite ti9 in the way. I have it set up. I use the I use an ocular battery on my blue sky in my whole fish finder can be removed within 30 seconds put on the new kayak that includes training sore arm everything, you know, so I used to knock you out for that. But I want the Dakota lifting power box because I want to keep my GoPro charge. I want to keep my phone charged. I want to buy that that deeper. I want to be able to keep it charged. Yeah, I'll run multiple GoPros. I want to be able to run cords out of the Ox have them going up the line instead of buying individual power bank power boxes, you know and duct taping them. Now. I'm not on that. I want something that's legit something that could be easily transportable. So I'm looking heavy at that man. So I think I think I had that to cart real quickly pull that up and add that part. Yeah. No, man. I heard a lot of good stuff. They sponsor the Michigan Ohio kayak Trail I'm a board of directors on there too. And of course, okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna support who supports us man hands down for sure. Yeah - oh man, that's how it works man. Yeah. Absolutely right on. Yeah, I think we covered most everything right man. I mean I want to ask you about your PB man. Tell me about your PB you do you have a PB story a personal best story you were talking about that musky like yeah, man, you say nah. That was my that was my personal best musky and I caught that on that ChatterBait. Yeah, but my personal best bass you seen it bro that video when I was young and now Louisiana where I hid the with the You know where that cracks that you ever watched The Hodgetwins so I'm on YouTube. It brings it in like that that he's always like looking at his beard in the jaw line. That's where I get the jawline thing. He's always kicking it to the side don't do to her the best ever man. So when you brought it you brought a way back at came into the camera. I said That's The Hodgetwins right there. And yeah, that's funny. That's great. Sounds bass man 22 inches, bro. Yeah, I never knew how goofy I got over a big fish until I got to go pro and it was time to like, you know, you'll own all your footage and you're watching I can't wait to watch it. I'll go pro then you then you see how goofy you are when you catch a big fish because you don't realize it at the time you're just talking to whooping and hollering, but then you kind of see how other people would see you on the lake. You know, that's great. It takes some this or some time for for that for like how you can get your you know, too Be comfortable being on camera, you know because even if you know, even if you just buy yourself me just filming yourself, but you know, it's still kind of so when you start to get you know, you want to do stuff like this or you doing stuff for a different company and they actually hate can you do a video? It's kind of like it's nervously, you know, you got to get used to using a GoPro and being on front of the camera for after a while. But yeah, but I'm so comfortable now man, so to do like goofy videos like that, it's funny, you know. Fun of me man. That's what people love they love the realism, right? Yeah. There's some people out there that are just very stiff and they it's very fine-tuned and Polished. That's I'm not a Polish dude. So, you know, I'm going to I'm going to give you realism as well now like for me I can have conversations conversations with random people and strangers like me like it's second nature to me professionally I talk to people I don't know all day long. So for me that aspect is no problem to have a comp like rapping with you right now. The video being on video. I was like it's a little goofy, but then you know, it's warming up to me now. Hey, we're going to try this real quick. I got the video pulled up. We'll see if we can pull the audio off this. Hold on one second. So defeated, I was ready to go home pack my bags pick up the kayak and go home. I'm cold. I'm wet. I got the sniffles, but never gave up. It's called Giant. Look at that fish Giant. Bring it in bring it in right love that man. I absolutely love that. I remember when I saw that I called J. I was like yo, did you see Rodney's video and he's like, yeah, I saw it. That was badass. No, that's awesome, man. I mean there's something you could tell. There's so much emotion built up in there, you know, like oh man, you know, it's I know a lot of guys is struggled down there just because of the weather, you know, the bite everything man and then you go and land a PB. It's just man, it's awesome. It's awesome. You know, it's amazing amazing feeling and even though I was being goofy and a video but I was serious man do it was it was it was a decent morning and that cold front came through and start raining the wind picked up, you know in then with the rain and then the wind it is cold you out there man. It's like you're not going to give up right. We're not going to drive 14 hours yesterday, you know when severe weather come and go back to the ramparts and in the truck, right? No, you want to stay out. Then you're going to try to come up with a plan that you going to fish man. Yeah, and that's that's how I was going to do. I wanted to get I wanted to go home so bad, you know, I was at that point. I Was Defeated dude and I'm seeing guys Around me popping on dude, and I'm like what the hell? Yeah, but the tournament day one. I got a lemon, you know and it took me I was down there for 10 days 10 days and the day before the tournament. Actually, that's my first time getting on a bike. So it took me quite a while to actually figure I'm out down there. So once I figure once I figure them out and I figured out what the bite was on and Felt that the few selected trees that I did want to fish and catching those first 5 and getting a limit that first day was awesome. I think that put me in a hundred and twenty eighth place nice and And then I think I have 74 in or something like that the first day and then a second day. I pop that 6-pounder using a using a wacky rig man and maybe a foot of water catching up to the cypress tree and out. The fight was on and took a picture of that one got him like a chore to the picture that went through right back out that boom hit another one now the 17 inch here and I was like, oh man, I might be on some And then F front came in do it and is a shut it down man. Just shut it down. Yeah, that's kind of what happened to me at Nikka Jack after I lost my phone man. I was on a I was on a bike. I caught like an 18 and a half and then that fish that flopped off the board knocked my phone out of my hand was like a 17 and three-quarter and then I was screwed right? I had no way to take photos. So I had to go all the way back to the ramp which was like a good half hour from where I was fishing and it got back to the ramp got to the truck got the GoPro and right as I'm about to take back off a huge storm rolled through like straight-up downpour winds causing two to three-foot waves like all that and I'm like, what am I going to do? Sit here? No, I'm gonna jump in my damn kayak and get back out there. But by the time I got back out there all the big fish should move down and went lockjaw. And yeah, I mean I was fortunate enough to catch a few shorter ones and put together a limit for the day. But man I know how that is man. It's just you know, when that happens, you're just like, you know, you just pissed Yahoo Choice words and you know it is what it is, but that's fishing man. That's fish and when I say is fishing, that's how I really is man this fishing dude, you really gotta you really got to humble yourself and yeah and be mentally focused and strong man. Because you know, it's not always we're going out there and you catching fish like that. You know it out was I can catch fire fishing eight hours man, but it gets sometimes it gets to like, holy shit. I can't even catch to you know, what bro, right if I skunk out I get pissed. Oh, yeah the other day when I was out when I caught that 17 Brian that I posted up I was getting skunked left or right, you know, what the hell, you know, and then I start doubting myself. Yeah, man. I don't even know what I'm doing out here and started out at all. And then all it takes is one fish. Change your whole perspective, you know, they need then you kind of figure it out say okay, you know, I knew what they were doing in the bass in that Lake where I actually have it on my iPhone but this one bass was so it was holding so high up in a serviceman its fins are sticking out on the water. Yeah. It was right on the bank and I threw everything at it. I couldn't get him to even react, you know, so I was just a mental aspect of it's definitely you gotta you gotta forget that you're competing. You got to forget that you're in a tournament. You got to bring it back to its roots in Just Go. Fishing. Yeah, I you know. Back in the day and the young youth of Brian's age, you know, I used to play a lot of golf and they say golf is 98% mental 2% physical and I think that kind of carries over in a fishing man. If you're not there mentally especially in a tournament situation your day's going to be rough and that was one thing, you know, I had a hard time getting over for a long time man if you go out for a day Pre fishing or just a day of fishing in general. You skunk? You're like what the hell is wrong with me? I lost my touch can't do it anymore. Like, you know, all these thoughts are running through your mind and it's hard to make your brain just shut off and chill out and relax and just just fish, you know, like weird. Yeah, like we're used to doing, you know, and especially in that tense tournament situation whether it be a small Club event. Or a big national championship event if you can turn that switch off and just fish you're going to have a good day on the water. I think absolutely that's the that's the biggest thing man. But yeah, that's the piggy back off a little bit off of that Brian and but yeah just having just having that Focus man. I like I got a really close friend of mine and we fish around in the same areas and you know determines as well and last year he was he didn't have The gray is here and he will really, you know, everybody played on him all the way over, you know to this year over the all over the winter and I'm like dude you just got to go fish and you know, you can have a yak attack, you know Creighton have whatever amount of 3600 playing on Plano boxes in there and how many beats it could be in a storage or in your truck. But you only going to tie it on five or seven right? Right, right simplify it and put on the bait that you're confident in and that you know how to catch fish on it and just go out there fishing and that's even if it's going back to a peg weight and a Berkeley black power Mo K. Right right I come I caught more fish on that single worm than any other any other basis because it's simple it was the first day that I actually use when I first started going bass fishing and I figured it out. I figured out how I can use it and I figured after using a certain situation. So tournament guys or guys South are fishings as to have fun remembers that's go fishing because the if you put in too much Authority in in or you're doubting yourself You just defeat yourself, you know the biggest the biggest thing out there on a warrior is not to defeat yourself and right if I'm saying that right who follow me, right? Yeah, so just go out there go fishing be open-minded and let it come to you and it'll come to you it really will. You actually just touch base on a key point to what you just said. You knew that that black Berkeley Power Worm was going to work you knew that was going to work but we as fishermen we know that something's going to But we'll go complete opposite direction you something else? Yeah, right because we just went to the bait shop. We just bought this new ChatterBait. We just bought this videos about to tell everybody Jesus I got to use it to hell with what I know works. I'm going to use what I don't know that works and then you get pissed when you don't catch any fish, you know stick to what you know, there's a lot of hype on the market with a lot of different stuff if you never use that and you don't know how that's going to work for you but you have something in your tackle box that you know how to use and you know that produces use that shit. On tournament day. Yeah. All right, if it works for you over here most likely it's going to work for you there because you know how to present it. There's a lot of versatile Bates that work Statewide. Yes. I'm that won't some that won't you know, but a lot that will be your Cinco's. Those are Statewide fish. It doesn't matter where you're at in the country. That worm is going to work, you know, so just stick with what you know, that's that's I mean what you just said right there is key to a lot to I think probably went along tournaments, too. Saloon absolutely stick to what you know what you're comfortable at and you'll go out and you'll catch live fish your produce. You might not get the biggest bag, right? You know, but yeah, if you run these kind of machines enough and you see the numbers you see the same guys, that's consistently I can a top five or top 10 they hidden anywhere from you know, mid 70s to 80 90 inches not even 90 about 84% I say between 7 4 84 inches consistently those guys always want to come in at top 10. Yeah, absolutely and a lot of times that will get your first place special on your local tournaments in early in the year, you know in March April May that's number one. That's you get you do it in 90 inches in those three months. You're probably pretty close for a second third in my opinion. Yeah. Yeah, I agree for sure. Well, I think that's a ending it on a positive note right there man, Rodney. Why don't you want you plug all your sponsors your social media where people can follow you and your Journeys and everything else man. Alright guys. So yeah, if you guys want to follow me, I'm on Instagram at Rodney Hicks fishing also on our Facebook at right knee yack Savage Hicks and this want to give a shout-out to my sponsors man Doom State Apple great company you guys definitely if you Looking for some soft Plastics that really produce fish go out and get some doomsday tackle products also want to thank deeper sonar Dakota getting lithium never lost gear. Whoo! Tungsten, you know, I'll all those guys, you know has made a played a vital role in the success that I've been having out here on the water and I couldn't do it without my sponsors and might know my Partnerships. Hopefully just going for a man. I could continue to produce some fish man. My whole goal is to make it down to Guntersville. And and I'm 2020. Heck. Yeah, man, so hopefully I can I hopefully I can you know, put my head down and go out and fish these last two tournaments. We got out here with the great lake fishing series, by the way guys, it's just that's a stand-up serious. You know, that's a lot of a lot of good steaks that can that stairs. We got a guy keep Gerhard from He's always in a mix we have Don Thompson. You know, he finishes the kbl. He's always in a mix good buddy of mine. Nick Van gumpel. He's always in the mix Derek Akin, you know Derek and myself. That's a lot of good guys that's in and Ina Great Lakes kayak fishing serious, and I learnt a lot from them. That's what they got to say about Tournament Fishing if you want to fish around if you want to become a better fisherman fist around a good guy. Why you know this run Guyz, I can go out there and and slim heck. Yeah, I remember one particular time. I know if you guys know I'm but it's name was Josh Bennett. He used to fish the kbl back in the day and we had a tournament at him on Sonia and this was a I think there was my faith in my first and second year. So I was still fresh at the turn on the tournament scene and he was sitting right next to me and he was as casting all around my boat man tandem up fast out the bass on the Cinco and I was like sulfur You know, but you know you fish around those type of guys, you know those guys as good sticks. It'll make you a better fisherman. That's my point for sure. Yeah, but if you guys looking for an organization want to fish, you know kbo's a great organization as well. They've been around and got some traction and good guys Great Lakes kayak fishing serious. Like I said as well as hell if you want to do both. Yeah. Yeah. We always looking for English man. What else ya man? Thanks for having me on the show. Hey. Keep a reputation where I'm always willing to help and and not only that but rock down Adventures, you know where the word kind of the premium local shop for kayak fishing and you know, if anybody ever needs anything, you know, feel free to reach out man, you know, like I told Rodney I ran down in the shop that morning before we came back to the show because he was going to be there grabbed his stuff and you know got them set up that morning. I've came and found you and was like, hey man, I got your stuff over in the booth. So and it's the same thing like going to turn to Mints, you know, like I'm fishing all these kbf Trail events. If somebody out there needs something and hits me up before I leave and we got it at the shop man. I'll throw it in my trailer and bring it with me. So, you know, it's just just helping each other out, you know, it's just such a great Community, you know, everybody's willing to help each other so that that's kind of the going going thing man for sure. But Rodney thanks for taking the time out this morning to sit down and chat with us man. It's Good to finally get this one in the books man. We've been talking about doing this one for a while for sure. So yeah for sure man. Thanks for having me on the show man. Yeah Doug. Yeah. Absolutely man. So would that be exact good talking to you to reconcile before we get out of here? No doubt man. Absolutely. Yeah sure meet you man. Yeah, absolutely man. So with that being said guys, if you got a question comment, you want to hear certain topic on the show. Feel free to reach out to us at paddle the letter N in fin at gmail.com. Mom, be sure to check out the paddle and fin website. That's just paddle and fin.com huge shout-out to our you know supporters Rock Town Adventures leveling canoe and kayak Coyote sunglasses Sweetwater Brewing fish mob lures Southern Lake Co Michigan, Ohio kayaking leurs and then most importantly guys. Don't forget the Plastics recycling program savior use Plastics from this season mail them to the address in the show notes. It's also on our website our good friend Eric Richards out there at hammered lures melts, those Plastics downs and donates them to Heroes on the water chapters. So it's a good cause and instead of throwing those Plastics in the garbage to fill a landfill. Let's reuse them. So with that being said guys, we'll see you next time tight lines and smooth paddling.
  In this episode Brian & Ricketts sit down and chat with Rodney Hicks from Northern IL. Rodney is a part of many teams such as Ketch, Deeper, Doomsday Tackle, and Dakota Lithium. Rodney talks about getting his start in the kayak fishing world. He shares about his recent victory at a Great Lakes Kayak Fishing tournament , along with his trip to the National Championship this year. Buckle in and Enjoy the knowledge Rodney shares  Podcast & Website- www.paddlenfin.com   Email- paddlenfin@gmail.com   Social Media- @paddlenfin   Brian Social Media- @slydogfishing   Jay Social Media- @jay.randallkayakangler   Ricketts Social Media- @jricks_angler Sticks Social Media- @bradhixfishing Crankbait Johnny Social Media- @j.gravesfishing Rocktown paddlesports - rocktownadventures.com   Loveland Canoe & Kayak- https://www.lovelandcanoe.com Hammered Lures- https://hammered-lures.myshopify.com   Coyote Sunglasses- https://coyotesunglasses.com Sweetwater Brewing- https://sweetwaterbrew.com Fish Mob Lures-https://www.facebook.com/officialfishmoblures/ Southern Lake Co.- https://southernlakecompany.com MI OH Kayak Anglers-www.facebook.com/groups/MIOHKayakAnglers/about/ Recycled Plastics Recycling Program -  Mail to:  316 Pinewood Dr. Camp Hill,PA 17011 Rocktown Demo Days 6/22 -Store/River 7/20 - Martin Park 8/17 - Store Tues. Evenings at Rock Cut 6/18 7/9 8/6 Rocktown Adventures Rockford 313 N. Madison Street Rockford, IL 61107 815-636-9066  ---   This episode is sponsored by  · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. 