Before I continue one of the ways, we keep all of our content for you. The listener free of charge is our amazing sponsors, and today anchor is one of those sponsors. If you haven't heard about anchor it's the easiest way to make a podcast. Let me explain it's free. There's creation tools that allow you to record and edit your podcast right from your phone or computer anchors going to distributor podcast for you. So it can be heard on Spotify Apple podcasts and everywhere podcasts are listened to and you can even make money from your podcast with no minimum listenership. It's everything you need to make a podcast in one place download the free anchor app or go to Anchor Dot f m-- to get started. Hey Supernatural fans. We have a guest in the studio. Yay. We're talking witches, but there's no Rowena. So let's get excited about the guest coming at you right now. I'm Maria Menounos and you're tuned in to AfterBuzz TV the ESP on a TV talk now boom boom. Boom. Hey guys, welcome to Supernatural Thursdays. It's Cherry favor. Of the week and we got a special guest did Alaric joining us hear it after those. You know, you really do a good job of making me feel special feel special to be here. We've been you guys we've been planning this for weeks weeks trying to make this happen. Cherry had reached out and so gotta give props to my girl over there and now we've Got you here and you're not sick. I'm we we passed it on to me, but you know what? It's all okay, you guys we are going to talk all about season 15 episode 6 golden time. My name is Lindsay Wagner. I'm joined by Stephen. Alric to my left and Sherry Davis to his left golden time dot dot dot. Hey, it's me Che happy Supernatural Thursday. We're going to talk about some witches today, even though Rowena wasn't there. It was there in spirit. She's kind of like seems like a little which isn't he he is what she was there and painting she was there in painting Miss. Mrs. McLeod. What were your initial thoughts about this week's episode. I love this episode of didn't feel like it was a bridge episode it but it didn't feel like a throwback to an old episode either. It was written by Meredith Glenn and I thought she did a wonderful job of getting the Natural feel that we've been enjoying and loving for 15 years but adding a freshness to it and I loved the bad ass bitches what what? Yes, I think we all love seeing a witch in the show. It's just Ivan was saying in the chat earlier that the girl that played the main which she's been she's been on the episode the series twice before once as Chuck's publicist and another time as Witness so she's been a mysterious afar. So that's kind of super duper cool. I knew I recognized your just couldn't figure out where Steve what did you think of the episode so full disclosure? That's only the third episode I've seen and that is okay. I didn't even watch the episode I was on no. No, I look I thought it was a lot of fun, you know, it was there was a lot of humor in it that I really like appreciated you. No, I think that like it's such a good Escape. It's so much fun to just sit and watch and get lost in it. You know, there are other shows that have you know, the purpose is for you to think and to to kind of you know reflect on your life and and it's deep and and everything has its place. I just loved how this kind of road that kind of middle line where it was. It was fun. It was entertaining and it made me laugh. Well, your episode was quite the doozy for all of us. Because there was a rupture and even if you didn't see what happened, we lost three major characters that episode so I don't know if you were there when they killed off Rowena when they killed off catch one. They killed off our little Jack. But we lost major characters. So for us that episode was like cried so hard really? Yeah because you get attached to the kids and a lot of the times a good thing about supernatural and what you touched on is that they they make they bring the human side of it number one, but they give you some humor see you're not so deep dark into the abyss that you like. There's no coming back from this. I'm done. I'm not going to watch the rest of the season Cherry knows how that is. I mean we were like we're okay. We need a break from Supernatural after that. It was a hard one seriously needed a break to lose three major characters in one Fell Swoop one after another. Both of us said we couldn't even catch our breath before they killed someone else. It was just like it was it was a lot it was it was painful and we needed that break between that episode in the next one, which I had a little bit of humor to get us back but in that Episode cast you left too. I mean not only did three people died, but are three Horsemen of the form of Horsemen of the Apocalypse got whittled down to two in one Fell Swoop. Wow, and then cast made his Resurgence today? Yes, Kass is back and I leaned his back. So he had characters come back. You guys were going to talk about the best kill later, but you got to stay tuned to see that. So first off, let's talk about Cass being back being in. Idaho, he's on a Case himself. Pardon me. I'm dealing with pneumonia all trying to survive here and make it through this day. So if my voice goes out, I'm letting Cherry take over and see take over and they're just going to run the whole show. You know what you're handling it really? Well, I would never guess that you were sick by looking at you. Thank you mother. I'm just going to go take a nap on that couch over there. If I get to touch it's my it's my super sexy. I love my super sexy voice and then she like loses she gets it back and she's trying to get sick again and looking like Monica's dirty soup lid. Oh those were the days groans days. So Cass is and Idaho. He's running a case. It looks like people kind of keep disappearing and he realizes he thinks it's a gin right is that he said, I think he thought it was a Jen. Yes, and this woman kind of a hypochondriac. She's always saying something's going on her kids gone missing. Is befriended the guy who owns Sims, he's bait shop who's calling him Clarence. I'm like, I love the cast has created this whole life in this new town for him trying to just kind of fit in and start over. I love that. He did that and he's on a case and he's going to try to help this mom and he's she's like there's a mine but maybe he's there and actually he comes across the kid and the kid describes his gin. Now you guys talk to me about this death. He kill it's the sheriff like spoiler alert. It's the sheriff. You can't see it and then say spoiler spoiler alert. This guy is such a weasel but I love before we even talk about that. I love that. He's like, all right. I want to talk to your Superior. That was so you makes cast. Call the FBI phone which goes directly to Sam and Dean and he's got to talk to Sam or Dean and he hasn't talked to them in weeks. So I'm so excited waiting to see what's gonna happen in jeans. Like have you been listening in the messages? Yeah, there's a calling you like listen your messages, dude. Yeah. All right. Bye. Okay are yep. Yes, sir. Okay. All right, bye-bye. Like nothing because jeans just like you're done it was That the sheriff first was like I don't believe this is a load of crap. Then he watched him get reamed out by his boss and he's like, oh, yeah, we've all been there. Oh my gosh, this is so good. And he's being forced to be humiliated in front of his boss in front of the sheriff being reamed out by his Boston. It was just I thought it was so fun to watch and it's so interesting to see Cass having to deal with them again, which is something he didn't want to do because Sam's been kind of like a jerk, too. Him for a while. Dean Dean Dean has been a jerk Sam was emotionally unavailable unavailable to deal with what was hasn't been listening to his messages that doesn't even know that Sam wants them back and I've been trying to reach him. So I think now that he knows that Sam's been reaching out. Maybe he'll make an effort. But alright, so the sheriff kills has killed some peeps and Kass has to kill him get shot first showing He's Mal and her son Caleb that monsters are real heaven angels are real. We're dealing with this now. He heals himself and then he just stabs him over and over again. Is this what we normally do to kill a gin? No, but he was working through some stuff. I mean I was saying to him when we were watching it. I think he's working through some of the anger he has with having to deal with Jack being possessed by that demon with realizing that God IE Chuck is not the benevolent person that he thought he was and then the way he's been treated by the Winchester Brothers dealing with when Jack accidentally killed her mother and then wanting to put Jack-in-the-Box wanting him to help with lying. I mean, they really haven't gone through what went on with Jack in their treatment. What would their treatment of having to put in the Bots and and not including Castillo and those discussions? Is there anything so I think he has a lot of anger right now. So he's dealing with what we saw Dean being angry about God and Chuck and running the hamster wheel. He's dealing with it. Now we get to see how cast is handling it and he's just just killing that sheriff. I didn't mind. Oh, you deserve I loved it. I loved his. Oh you're in a position of power of us is what you do. You've got a bad. So you think you're cool. You think you can go do? Do this you small little man? Well, let me show you I thought was awesome. I thought that the way he justified it. I don't mess with the locals just the visitors. It's like still not nice dude. You're not. Okay. What do you do? See if you see some guy just randomly kill somebody in the middle of nowhere, even if he's killed someone you've seen watched him kill someone else run and then maybe go to police. Yeah not let him heal you No, I run. Okay, you know I mean or hop I guess if it's right, I guess it's kids are just sitting there idle away and he comes over and he heals them and he's like this is kind of like a miracle and they're left to believe. This is a miracle which has I know that glow loves. Hey Mama, how are you doing out there? She always writes. She's my my fellow Catholic. So we almost talked about kind of the parallel. Of how we've got God AKA truck now see how we're doing is even referring to God as God anymore. He's not referring to him as Chuck because isn't God supposed to be all good and all powerful and all kind we're seeing God is not nice things right now. So it's hard. It's been this parallel, but then you see this Angel he'll you pull this miracle, right? Literally a miracle right and heals himself right in front of you and you're like, how are they not Acting all these people along the way but they keep saying by the way guys monsters are real. God is real. How do we not expect these people to talk? Because I see some sort of Miracle. Guess what I'm doing. I'm telling I'm posting on Facebook. I'm tweeting it out. I mean, I guess if somebody said you have to give this on the DL. I don't know. I guess I have to keep it quiet then we're gonna keep you'd still tell somebody. Oh, no I missed it. Now. You may not post it. You might not you know make it public and so we can get back to you. But I guarantee you when you're with your friends. You're going to sit there and go yo guess guess what happened? But how do you know your friends are well, I wasn't I so I kind of keep it huh Wyatt one Friends Are Monsters in Disguise. I mean, it might be cool with you. But if you leave yourself open to being some of that might expose them then friends before what is it guys before ho bro. I don't hang with people who say things like that. Listen. I was just correcting it. It's not something that's not a phrase. I use. I'm just you know, I keep it. I keep it definitely quiet to myself. I might tell my dog and that's about it when I get a dog when I adopted out but that's how I look at in the chat Lee Lima Leo. Lima says, I liked how Dean was just like, hey, dude. I know we're on a break but Chuck is back. Be careful. I totally forgot to mention that that was a good one. I'm glad that he said that I'm glad he kind of gave him a heads-up fair warning whatever their little exchange was. You know, he's not Happy with them either but took the call and I think he's going back to the boys. I mean, he's I think it's too I love them and said what he said he wants time for me to get back in the game. It's time for a change. So I'm excited to see I hope he does go back to the boys. And and I hope there's a change between the Dynamics between them. They need to like respect him equally. Well, it's Gotta happen, right? It has to I mean it will happen at some point. Yes there. I think they're going to hold off a little while longer. Sure, but at some point Rutherford is nesting right now. He's on my sweat. She's on your sweatshirt. Sorry, it's going to be covered in dog fur. All right, so let's talk a little bit about these witches that we got reintroduced to checking in on Rowena's apartment trying to loot it and get the stuff and she's got a hex spell on the apartment like any good. Which would that anyone that's coming in to try and take anything they're going to die. They're going to get killed which I was like good for you because I'm thinking how has no one come and trying to get her stuff before this. You know, she's gotta have all sorts of goodies. And yes Hex bags and spells and I don't know crystals crystals things how long has she been dead in since your episode but but in terms of like the timeline of the of the problem amongst and if she's in her building and they haven't seen her in a while because there she's gonna go off and do her own thing. She's gonna come back basement and then nail was all piled up you guys saw that like, yeah, so they know but she's not around and so she starts this Jessi starts getting a nosebleed chokes and dies and that's the end of her. Yes, and I think the spell was one where you wouldn't necessarily die in the I think we'll we know was hoping you'd look around can find anything and then you'd leave and then you die somewhere else. Let's shoot you wants anybody she was just so horrible though, like breaking. Yeah, every little thing. I was like, oh she was in there for a long time not like you. She's trash trash. I did not like what you did her sister. Oh got major anger towards this girl best kill coming up Madam. Can't wait to talk to you guys about that. So we got Sam researching Dean eating cereal Mike. A man Syria. What's your favorite cereal? Franken Berry, really? Yeah, what about you? Jeez? I don't need a lot of serious Cookie Crisp. You know what? I don't I don't know your cookie Christmas. Oh my God. Yeah when I was a kid, it was Rice Krispies a lot of Rice Krispies. Did you get to put sugar on top? No. Is like candy and I thought it wasn't fattening than one of my friends like know it's fattening food a loyal and coconuts. That's why it tastes good like candy. No I eat kids cereal and I still buy kids cereal. I was funnier lot to eat those Frank and I'm an adult now I can eat my they do Summers. I haven't had in a long time but it's got the marshmallows and Barry. This is blueberry or strawberry chocolate. Of course. I just ate Fruity Pebbles this morning you guys. I'm really a kid. I'm a kid in an adult's body right now is like cakes. That is home. Okay, cough medicine getting to my brain. So Sam hasn't had a vision since Colorado. I think this is interesting. I also think that Chuck is hurting we can get two more two predictions later on why Sam isn't having visions, but he hasn't had any Visions Dean kind of tells them due to go off and do your own thing. It's like a milk run you can go and and get this Crystal because he's out for a run. He sees Eileen Eileen has been trying to get ahold of them for weeks, which I'm she's been stuck. In the middle as well. Yeah. So all these people this is really starting to scare me with what's his name with our favorite little why can't I think of him? I can't remember his name little our little nugget guys in the chat. Tell me who are you know, who we're talking about Kevin Kevin if you like everybody got sent to Hell. Nobody was going to have no one went to heaven after all. Yeah. It feels very problem. Steve. No one's going to heaven. That's bad news. Everyone has been sent to hell or the middle and they're all going crazy because they're stuck in this middle world where they don't really know what to do there and their souls so they can't live on Earth but they've kind of been banished to hell and there was a hellhound and Sam was very very fond of Eileen in the first place. So I knew this was going to strike a chord with him. So to be able to put Eileen in a place where she could be at least by herself and be at peace What he wanted to do. So Dean tells him go go to the house go get something from marinas and make a spell he gets there and she's able to go through the wall. And I think the really cool thing was this spell he was going to be able to create for a person and she was working on this with out there. I'd like none of them knew I loved the Rowena are getting legit evening at for Rowena even more Arena was added. We already loved her and we're just getting more and more bits and pieces showing how wonderful she was and how much she cared about the boys even knowing Sam was going to have to kill her to create a spell to potentially bring Mary back. I'm a bad person to I was kind of hoping we'd be able to bring a wee nip back. I'm sorry. I had to say I would like to bring Rowena back. Jasmine loves us. I miss morwenna. Yes, we do promise Rowena. Did you get to meet Ruth when? You were shooting. I did not that's what plays Romina. Yeah straight up though. Like they spoke to me. They told me how amazing she was. That's always that's always so nice to hear. You know what I mean? Because I believe the other side of my conversation was with her correct in the episode was it so so they were you know, they were just saying. Oh have you met her? Oh, she's so wonderful. She's so nice. It's always, you know, it's always good to hear. She literally for the Six seasons that I've been doing the show with you guys here at AfterBuzz. We've been doing the show Supernatural AfterBuzz. She was the one who helped me book a ton of guests and bring a ton of people and me and that's all Adam Fergus David Haden Jones Lisa Barry just so many people she's helped bring in which just as a testament. Yeah, how wonderful she was so sad. You didn't get to me that by 2 you'll meet her in another life then. Like for sure are especially in the Supernatural world because she's doing the convention circuit and she is going to be around for so long because she is just so loved by the fans. That's okay. Yeah. She's just a delight but redeeming qualities for her that she's created this spell that somehow is going to you know, now that he wants to use it on Eileen. Well do we think that we're going to let that happen Supernatural? Of course, we're not going to do that. We're going to bring some more witches in the place to stop that from happening little voodoo. Hex doll little girl that looks like she belongs in the ring back at us. She's from a show called Dark Matters Faith. That's where she's from so nice. I met her. She's really sweet. She was great. Oh, she was really got she was fantastic and she had every right to hate her sister Jacinda. Yes who turned her Crush into a water balloon and then popped it. I heard that was a boy. Wow, that was crazy writers. That is it was it was like mind-boggling how unpleasant her sisters turning invisible for a week making her tongue into his snake yet making them visible for a week. It was like not a day a week a week of invisibility and how could the mom not notice that you're a terrible mother? She's invisible but then but then but then you have to One of them and just mother just wanted this daughter back. So she's going to use a spell to bring my daughter back her for which child her would she does meanwhile this girls like use them as little voodoo doll and Sam and I'm like, I wish I had a deemed all they could just talk me ha ha ha all day long. I love her portrayal of the character because it felt like he was reaching her and she was going to run away. Yes, and so abused that she doesn't know how to function without her abusive families Family Leave Stockholm syndrome or whatever. So it's poor girl. So thankfully Dean and Eileen show up at the nick of time there there we get a little bit of a fight sequence. Which did you get to do a fight sequence on this not on this but you've done some yes previously. Do you like doing fight sequences? You loved your look at you just lit up. Yeah. No, I love it. It's so much fun. It's so much fun. I like being physical. So, okay. Yeah, and so you like the Choreography of it do you get to kind of work with the choreographer for what works for you? How often do you have a stunt double come in it all all of that depends all depends on who the fight choreographer is and what you're doing most times all you do you get to be a little bit creative. Can I try this? Yeah, try that. Can we do that? Yeah, of course, you know like so you feel like your part, you know, it's collapse feel like you're part of the process. So yeah, that's wonderful. I think it's always so good when you like you said you get to Elaborate with them and work on it and I think all the everyone always loves when we've talked to Kathryn Newton who's played cast his daughter. She's loved the fight sequences and stuff and she's got to do some really really cool things. It's on Supernatural makes it so neat to Microsoft later on with the water even in the bathtub and she gets in. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, the ghost fight was a blast. I loved I was like Yes, we have a ghost to Winchester's boys as Eileen the ghost of fight on their behalf. Well, I knew we were going to have to we're going to have to kill this Jacinda again because now so they the mom brought her back and she said spell can only bring one human back. Hmm or one person back so they were able to kill off to send and light the body on fire and I was wondering okay. Wait, are we going to be able to use a spell again or not? I don't think she used the spell. She was getting ready time. Yes, right. Okay. That's what I thought too because I was like wait are we going to be able to use a spell of she's coming back? So they were able to kill all the people and go back to the bunker and this gave Sam his opportunity to try to do this spell On Eileen with the like potpourri in the bathtub and she gets in the water. It's down and sinks in and Sam starts doing a spell as if he's a witch. You guys have good a Witcher Sam? You're the Annunciation to his pronunciations of those words. I was like everything is so great. And the next thing you know, she gets up out of the water neck. It naked full-blown a key. And thankfully there's a towel there and like her and Sam kind of hug and I'm like, oh God, this is a big deal. It was a big deal. It's a really big deal guys. I loved how Sam turned away to give her her privacy and that Sam was brushing up on his ASL and he learned ASL for her and he yes and that he's been brushing up on and he said he's like since he's wanted to pick up on it a little bit and I'm glad he did that what we're talking about that can I ask Ilene, right is her hearing impairment a part of the storyline or did it is she just a character? That was the first one they brought on that was here. Impaired on the show whenever she came on. I don't remember what season she came in but it was within the last six years because I remember them introducing her as a character was she a dancer so I can't quite remember. What did it did did do their hearing impairment have anything to do with the storyline? It's just she's American hiring for as a Banshee expand. She's yell and you oh I see but yeah, that's how they're yeah, that's how they were saying and it happened, but she came in and her grandfather. I was appreciating And I was appreciating the diversity. You know what I mean? Like absolutely. Um, yeah, so that's really know and she's a great and I was really great to see her and she's I mean she speaks so clearly to and stuff. She's obviously worked worked at it. So I think she is deaf in real life. Oh, yeah. She yes. Yeah. She's she's gotta be like her my or else I was a brilliant characterization, you know, like him. Yeah. So I love this moment at the end we get we get our little moment with them. Raised again always ever chatting about what we're going to have what's going to happen next Dean saying that they wish they knew about the spell for Mom. I'm gonna bring mom back, but she wasn't heaven but she's in heaven husband and she's happy there and Sam says, you know Dean you saved my butt by killing the which I need you. I need my brother. I don't need to go off and do these things by myself. We needed each other. We complete each other. We are Yin and Yang, we are good and bad. We need to come together if we're going to solve this. This and God is out there and God is bad. We got to fix it together and you know, they break the rules and how we're going to do it. That's how they always do it. That's how they've done for 15 years. They remember what he said remember Sam went to hell too so he won't be able to go to heaven. Sometimes I forget how many times they died been brought back to life and everything else because he said it like just a casual side person catch. It was like hate. Yeah, and that's why he was so upset the way that Dean so dismissively said, oh, well, you won't be going to heaven. So well, that's how it is. I am Jasmine love says Sam is Wil Wheaton has prodigal son. I'm like, yeah. She is he is he is and that you guys the episode flew by today at once so Actually, I loved Meredith's writing on this episode. I really there was just there was a hint of female to it. It just felt very like powerful like and like really really giving Rowena the credit that she deserves this episode. So let's get into our special segment, which is the best kill of the episode. So yes, what was your favorite kelvis episode to start with cherry? I'm Gibby. A second. I think about it Steve. There are a bunch of really good kills by up say I loved Castillo's anger when he was killing the Gin Sheriff. Okay and what he said it was just I was like, yes, let that anger Outcast Yale. Okay, Steve same one the same one for the same reasons to just to see him like unleash and yeah, that was really cool. Okay. I'm going to be the odd man out over here. I'm going Jacinda and say ird. Letting her on fire because I was like, I don't like that girl. I don't like the bully. I don't like her picking on her younger sister. So when she was gone, I was like, buh-bye. We I've had enough of you we're done but by now, so let's get into just a little bit of news and then we're going to talk about you going to spend the next 10 15 minutes. Just talking all about your life my favorite topic so we have kids so much news because as we all know our favorite Jensen at Kohl's and Steve Carlson have a band and it is called radio company. They debuted on the Billboard Chart Billboard Chart at number five. Yes merging artists. So whoo, but we all know he can sing because I've seen him sing on YouTube numerous times. So the conventions and every yeah, so I knew he could sing. So it was really cool. And then for our Supernatural gossip more just some news ha ha. Are already working on new music lovely. So that's going to be awesome and Emily swallow. Our favorite goddess is playing the armor on didn't sleep less the Mandalorian. Oh, so I hopefully will get her in one day. And what would ask her Jedi or Empire? Uh-huh. I will reach out. I think I still have her contact info. We all watched the finale together a couple years ago, so she's awesome. Mmm, see if we can get her in here. So Steven by Steve was in episode 3 The rupture playing Cal and has been working on a bunch of other stuff. You were recently talking about while you were just telling us how you got your start as Simba in The Lion King and you've toured all over you've been the little nugget what I did. This guy, um, I have so many stories from that so many fun doing Live Theater like there really is nothing like it because I wish that the audience knew how big of a part they are of the show. Do you know if their energy is down it affects the show if they're in it and they're on the edge of their seat and they're watching it makes the show come alive, you know, and I have either of you seen Lion King. Yes. I loved it was beautiful. I haven't seen it on Broadway. It was really good. I said it at the Pantages contagious in Hollywood. Yeah, so so I did I originated the role in Toronto. I did it for two years there and then I went to Broadway for a little while and then I went to so cool. Can you can say I can you can say I want to know what's your go-to? Karaoke song is I I'm not even kidding. I have like a ton of karaoke song but typically lately what I've been singing is I well they're three. So I'll sing Backstreet Boys or I'll sing Johnny Gill my my my Grousing Maxwell Woman's Work. Whoa. Those are sort of like a just turned cherry on right now 90s R&B. I just don't we all yeah Craig David Craig David, you don't and he still puts music out. He does. I loved him so much like he was one of my favorite Brian McKnight love like I do One Last Cry Sometimes do okay. So your Did you shoots expectations already? I did two episodes. Okay, so two episodes of that tell us about that and where you can find that okay. So, um, I think they're still working on it. I'm still finishing it up. It's going to be on Amazon. Okay, so man, that was a lot of fun really cool people that work with really kind of you know, taboo. We cross that line a little bit but it's it's a lot of fun and Man, the the filmmakers with you put a lot of work into it. He's got Kevin's got one of the one of the what you call it videos up on I'll find it. Maybe I'll send you guys a link sure I come he has a video of him doing the special effects the video effects. Oh and so you see cuz it's meant to look like the top like a romance novel. So, you know, like it's just a video of me picking the girl up or kissing her and but how like its You know time what time elapsed sure and so you see all the stuff that all the layers all little cuts that he's doing as he's adding it is it's all that's awesome. What lot of work and what was your favorite thing about working on Supernatural? Um favorites. I mean, I just I love being on set all together. You know, I love meeting the new people everybody that's involved. I think with this was just kind of the efficiency, you know, I mean people have been doing it there have been People who have been there since the beginning so I mean they have their job down. They they the team has their job down together. So things just kind of go go go go go. Like I honestly shot that in half a day really is bang bang bang bang bang, you know. Wow three cameras going they're shooting that and me at the same time and boom boom boom. Boom. Boom. Yeah. It was just it's just so great just flew. Yeah, I was and was and you got to hang out with Jensen and Jared or chat with them for know I know No, I didn't because you know, I as you saw like my part was I was I was away from them. So yeah, okay. Yeah. Yeah, but it was but it was it was a lot of fun and you're saying that you audition for another world, so I can't remember what role I auditioned for but what happened was I Edition for it and they they call my agent. They said we gave it to a girl but we really liked him and so we wrote this part in for him because I was I just went up to Vancouver to you know, just And meet some casting directors, but when it came back down here, they would self tape. And so that's kind of just sort of what happened. They knew that it was only here for a short time or were there for a short time. So they said, you know, we just we just really like him. So I just wanted to put do that. I mean there's nothing more flattering, you know what I mean? I mean, you know one of those love thank you. I've done to Lifetime movies. Neither them Christmas. I haven't done Hall market. So I'd say it's on the horizon. Well, we're gonna lie. I'm putting it out there into the you working on anything right now. I can't tell you about can't talk about you guys, but it is huge. It was honestly one of Most amazing experiences I've ever had on set. It was amazing. It was so different because it was a it's a big-budget blockbuster. Okay come out next year. So the budget is outrageous and even working on, you know, high quality or high, you know, a big budget TV pales in comparison. Wow heels. I mean this this set there was a part of downtown Tokyo. Oh there was you know, there was all kinds of stuff on this that would just that just blow your mind, you know, and and the experience part of the experience that I really loved was the fact that you know, when you look at it. This is you know, this show is about 45 minutes the supernatural it typically shoot that in seven or eight working days. This was say a two-hour movie fifty five working days. So imagine the amount of time that you get with every, you know to cry What's happening, you know like to really kind of delve into it and to take time for the crew to set up the camera and set up the shot and set up the lighting and all this kind of stuff. So it was just you know, it was just nice to work on that the pace on TV is just go like I say go go go go go eight eight days to shoot 45 minutes is not a lot of time. So, you know, so it tends to move like this. You don't have the same opportunity to to dig in, you know, so it's not much more. More a testament to the actors are on the show sure. I don't I mean because they're able I mean, they're they're they're working on one episode in learning the next episode. You know what I mean? Like it's a lot it's like you perfer TV film or theater. I mean you've done all of them. Yeah and I always say that I go back to theater because it's just instant gratification when you get to do it because you've got an audience laughing crying eating out of the palm of your hand. So it's always my favorite to do theater. It's well put and I think you know, Let them have their their pluses and minuses, but for the most part, I agree with you being on stage. Like I was saying earlier, you know, the audience is a part of it. So it's like it's like having that extra energy, you know, there's there's just it's much more like walking a tightrope, you know, not to say that TV or film is not but like it's just it's just energy-wise different and I think he hit the nail on the head like the instant gratification, you know. Yeah, it's amazing. We're doing Lion King kids used to yell out. I mean like they get it. Excited, you know, they would get excited. I'll never forget like one time I was up on so, you know, when Scar falls to his death the way they do it on stages. There's this little platform. It's like this why it's right and they put you on a harness they haul you up and so you're on top of this thing fighting scar, you know, I mean, you're suspended you got you know, but but it's still, you know, it's still a few time but doesn't yeah, you know, it takes a while to get comfortable with that but I remember was up there and then it's silent and Here's this kid. Yeah got him Simba get home. So this was a double showed and I was a matinee. So I go to a restaurant for lunch in between with with the girl plays Nala whom I married but we go and we're sitting there and we're talking about it laughing about it. And this woman comes up and goes that was my son. Yeah, he was like That was my son. He was the one that took a picture with him and all that kind of stuff. Yeah, it was so crazy. It's so crazy. It's so so much fun so much fun. My God. That's so cute. So cute. No, it's amazing nose already John. That you love like sci-fi cartoons action cuz I've seen you in the rookie the rookie. I've seen you on SWAT you always you play different kind of characters, but everybody has their own thing like suspense horror where man if if it were only up to me if I were creating all my own work, it would probably be drama. Yeah, not musical drama. Not necessarily. I mean, you know I think it's fun to be diverse. I think it's fun to touch on, you know different things. I think everybody, you know, when you pigeonhole and actor for argument's sake and say in all that guy's a dramatic actor and then they turn around and do something comedic. It's like there's so much joy in that. You know what I mean? Like there is just a different perspective that person's ringing and I so I I think the the diversity is is the most fun. Yeah. Well, let's get into some predictions. Before we wrap things up. We got lighting backsliding. Okay, so we are going to be back in two weeks. Everyone's going to enjoy a lovely Thanksgiving which is my favorite holiday because it's all about the food and being thankful. We are gonna be back on December 5th when we get back, we've got Dean talking to a hottie hot. Hey, so um, yeah, I mean aside from really predicting that Dean maybe he's going to have some fun and get some pie. Not your typical figuratively and literally Cherry. What do you what do you what do you got for some predictions for me for the next couple episodes before we call mid-season finale? I think our boys going to get his freak on break him out of his doldrums because you know how it is. If you can't have a burger then he wants a woman and then I always put him in a good mood. So I think that December 5th we're going To see a little bit of Return of our old cocky meat man. Yes. Do you have any predictions for the rest of the season? I know you've only see you haven't even seen your episode that you're in he was Cal and the rupture but do you have any predictions for the season? Where do you think this is going to go? I think it has to Guess that his heart is a family story. So at its heart, you know, I mean eventually that Family Guy come back together, so that's why I was saying like Of Castile and with Eileen and maybe there's going to be someone else that pops up from the past and and they're going to win conquer that is obviously what y'all know. I've been hoping for from the beginning and with I lean back. I think we're going to get to see more of her and Sam's relationship. Let's hope she doesn't get killed again, but we keep bringing more characters from the past Seasons back. So I'm always always happy to see that so we'll see you guys in two weeks until Then Cherry where can everyone find you you can find me cherry underscore LA on Twitter and Instagram and Steve tell everyone where they can find you on all things social media at Steven Alaric. That's my for everything everything. Yeah, it's just make it easy. Perfect. That's that's what I did. Everything's at Lindsay Wagner L. YN D SE y w EG + ER find me there Steve. Thank you so much for joining us. Thank you guys so much. This was a lot of fun. Thank you for having me. Thank you for coming in. Going about your episode talking about supernatural talking about super buff come. We'll see you guys in two weeks. Please have a fabulous Thanksgiving and he'd all the good yummy foods. Our founder Keven undergaro and me Maria Menounos would like to thank you for tuning in to AfterBuzz TV. 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This week Steve Allerick who played Cal in 'The Rupture' a few episodes back joins Lyndsey and Cherry in the studio to discuss this week's episode 'Golden Time.' Castiel is back and working on a case with a Djinn and Sam and Dean are on a Witch Hunt with Sam jumping in as Rowena's Prodigal Son. We also get the return of Eileen and what is happening to all the Souls? Join us for Supernatural Thursdays, rate us five stars, and comment on what your favorite Kill was this week! We will see you back on December 5th! Till then, Happy Thanksgiving and Supernatural Thursday! ABOUT SUPERNATURAL: Jensen Ackles and Jared Padalecki star as Dean and Sam Winchester, two brothers searching for the meaning behind their mother's death at the hand of a demon, and their father's mysterious disappearance. Two brothers follow their father's footsteps as "hunters" fighting evil supernatural beings of many kinds including monsters, demons, and gods that roam the earth. This haunting series follows the thrilling yet terrifying journeys of Sam and Dean Winchester, two brothers who face an increasingly sinister landscape as they hunt monsters. After losing their mother to a supernatural force, the brothers were raised by their father as soldiers who track mysterious and demonic creatures. Violent memories and relationship-threatening secrets add additional burdens on Sam and Dean as they investigate all things that go bump in the night. As old tricks and tools are rendered useless and friends betray them, the brothers must rely on each other as they encounter new enemies. 