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Let's get rolling pun intended. We are talking Netflix is Lucifer season 4 episode 5 expire affect the AfterBuzz after show starts right now you are tuned in to AfterBuzz TV the ESPN of TB top now let the would you ever admit to using Molly would I ever admit to it? I don't know right now right here. You would use it. Oh my God. Are you kidding? You're my I would not use it today anymore. But I know I've been very open about my past. That's really nice things. I've got tried and I related to this episode in quite a few ways a little that's why people need to listen to tomorrow. - oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, you really well if this show was still on Fox maybe I wouldn't be out talking about this but it's on Netflix. So I feel like I'm playing by Netflix is rules. So Netflix allows you to be a little more R-rated or yeah, Roxy I get it now, but nobody could call me are the way people call you TI No, no one calls me to you people call you to only one person calls me tea. Mmm and their favorite WB is my favorite WB as I am sitting here with my beautiful amazing illustrious. Whoa, Queen of the queens of the Queen's you've added an extra Queen here right these dryers in the building queen of the brains Queens of everything Queen of the queen. You were also queens of the ratchets at one point. Oh, yeah, that's true. But I have moved on from that point. I'll take Queen of the Queen's especially when we're playing with such Queens as Eve. Chloe maze. I mean, these are some of the best Queens of all time. They drag queens like they are some of the best Queens of all time. We've got great characters on the show on on both sides, but I will say I think that the women characters on this show would Slaughter the men in a fistfight. I am too I must agree and we also have great characters on this panel and I don't know I'm pretty sure you would Slaughter me in a fist fight here too. My name is Ron I will be hosting this panel as we talk all things Lucifer season 4 episode 5 expire. Erect. Yes. I said that correctly to expire Iraq today. We will be talking about the case of Earth but then get to the heart of the show with the case was really about Eve overstaying her welcome Yves. Agenda Lucifer needing closure Chloe needing closeness Ellis Revelation Maze and Dan are we still kind of shipping that or not think like a criminal Dan is going to the dark side. You are my father old Lucifer verse new Lucifer even Ella Ella Ella. Eh, eh amenadiel and Chloe's heart-to-heart is Eve good for Lou? Lucifer not we have some news and gossip our special segment circles of hell. Of course, we're missing Stephen Lemieux because he was thrown into a circle of hell and predictions are much much more on today's show Roxy overall thoughts but you think that they were the hell circles were mad at Stephen for having that be our special segment every week. So they actually just swallowed him whole Mike stop revealing our secret. You know, it's funny you say that because there are times where Lucifer is a much more playful show about Help but there are some shows specifically when I was watching Sabrina where I was feeling some type of way. And it's not like I'm a particularly religious person, but I was like, wow, this is kind of taboos dark stuff and you get nervous to talk about it. I mean here on AfterBuzz TV were talking about it to people globally and I'm thinking it is somebody going to come and get me and quiet me up talking about these God and he'll secret. I mean it could it could actually happen could happen because there are people you know, There are real. I feel like church of exorcism, you know international. Well father can lie for sure. It's coming together as a real father Kelly out there. I mean, there's no way that we make it out without him making an appearance on this show for better or worse and they done a thing where they haven't brought him up into episode. It's been too long. What are you planning father? What dangerous planning? Yeah dangerous, but I love this episode. It was amazing is exactly what I want looser defeat Lucifer to be and the thing about this is the case. Turned into a case with yeah, that's true. It was more. It wakes up the case. Exactly. Yeah, it is very much. I think it's great because we're at the halfway point now so we've got ten episodes season. This is episode 5 and usually right around here is when shows start to take that dip they get a little lazy. They don't want to show us all the action. There's a lot of Filler episodes not on Lucifer. This was a fire episode pun intended, but I'm sure I don't have Steven to 10 seconds later say That he gets my jokes. There we go. You still be doing more on very Stephen in the booth? Yes three seconds on that one. Oh, good good. Well, it takes Stephen Lemieux a little longer. So, you know, you had a you got to be slower than that. Yeah, sometimes it takes a little longer what this case the case. We're going to talk the victim Derrek Lee still had his car keys in his wallet and the house obviously had not been touched. Definitely. Not a robbery. No, then we find out the cause. Death was pressure washer jammed in his throat full blast. He'd hate when that happens. Yeah, it's kind of its kind of awkward. Yeah, I've always wondered what happens because pressure washers washers have a lot of force they do they really do people use them for many reasons. No, I mean, why did you how come every time you say something with a smirk? It just sounds wrong. I don't even know what these many reasons could possibly be, you know to clean things. Okay? Okay. Well I can you stop doing that stop doing I'm not gay. Bubble of not doing that. Okay. Well, here's the thing. Then we get a second victim sit Cluj. And of course the murderer was Marco Franklin Marco Franklin the very first person I'd like to say that I was the first one to notice this check mark Margo Franklin the very first person they spoke to the first witness was murdered but then for the fifth episode in a row on the show, I would think it gets silly or redundant and it doesn't but do you think most people at home have caught on to that fact, I think most people watch our After show have because you said it but I'm just saying until you finish watching it after she until you said it I did not relate those two things. They did not correlate to me. So I think in this one I was kind of right but then kind of time because they threw in a case a second case in which Marco is the victim stabbed by the person. He was looking for Leona Franklin God. I hate that God. I hate when you're looking for somebody and then they come and find you first. I thought this was interesting. I know. No, I know I've learned a lot from you Tehran about all these double meanings and I thought the most interesting part about this case was Chloe and Lucifer working on this case because of all of the closure references and what not and I think that the twist of that help this case go longer and that was all I cared about this case that it didn't end kind of like how they felt. I just needed it to keep going. We got something very interesting in episode 4 where Chloe I was on the case with Dan. It's like I didn't want that's why I wanted to not work with lose first because of how he approaches things and we see Dan going dark. Then we see the Lucifer do something very Lucifer is where he grabbed a tire the wall through it and throw it at the guy. I was like didn't have to chase him at all. He got tired. That was fine. So fun. It was so fun. It was like you I feel as if you told Steve you were going to make that joke before he is quickly. On it and that's our Steve was in the booth not Steven them. You not to be confused with the on hell. Yeah. He's seven can't do anything now. He's in hell. We got a variety of cars on this one. We got a Mercedes Goldwing just for the car Enthusiast or you are you a car Enthusiast. I am I've seen what you drive sometime a car person not not super. I'm not one of those guys was like I need this car but I like cars I like cars and I enjoy them and I've had a variety of Cars Plus. Also, my father has a mechanic shop. I've been around cars my whole life. Okay, so I really like good deals. So I like that more than I like called. That's the Jew and yeah, that's what it is. That is exactly what it is. I totally get it would love a good deal with the Persian blood and then you get the Jewish blood and then you get the black light. I'm like all y'all guys. Yeah, I need deals to live. So I really appreciate a car know nothing about a car. All I know is when something looks good and these looked pretty cool sure exactly when but one so we had a Mercedes going we had to ask. The Martin that's the one we're actually Lucifer switched out the Corvette for the Aston Martin. So even though they look similar. That was a classic Aston Martin and then we got the Tucker 48, which is a very rare car and then we got the even more rare 92 Geo Metro Polynesian green. Which one would you drive? Which one is your dream? I don't have a dream in any of them. However, I've always had a nightmare that I'd be driving a 92 Geo Metro Polynesian green. Well, I don't think it's ever going to happen. I hope not that's just one of those. One of the worst cars but it was such a good bargain. Yeah torn I'm torn were you thrown for a loop when Leona was the one to stab because she came in there. She came into the club. There was a hostage situation. Of course Marco would hold everyone hostage have the little bomb thing going and we started this episode in the like at that sandwich thing where we have no idea what was going on. I was not surprised because this girl comes in and all of her a blondeness and ICU blondes. We're not all just good. I know past your hair in case you want to know Roxy on iTunes listeners Roxy's blonde. Yes. I am and I pay a lot of money to be blond to thank you very much and I just looked at her like it was too convenient. Oh, I'm gonna go I'll just go in there and I'm gonna make it all better. And don't worry. I'll talk him down from the second. She walked in I was like, uh-oh. This chick is coming in Fierce, and she's got to And I've also seen this actress on so many other TV shows and I know that she's got range. So it would be silly to bring her in not for an arc. And where do you go from good, but to evil she fooled me. So she goes in there. She tells him I'm sorry and the Marco was like no it's and then she goes in for the hug and like stabs them. I was like whoa, but why would she have been so happy with him? She was so genuine. I'm so sorry. I'm are so good. And this is how you know, guys we fall for those things when you got fake it we believe you and this is a perfect example. I believed her. I thought that she did a good job selling it. It's always interesting when an actor has to act as a character because that's really what this was. She's an actress Who's acting as the character, you know, and I think that can be really challenging and so she fooled you how much more existential can we get? So we related the case. The closure and we feel that but before we got to the closure, we saw Lucifer feeling the dreads of being called Smooth in boob a she wasn't up to date on the slang, but she used the word boyfriend. So I'm also not up to date on the slang. What is the current hip thing? Is it Bay? Is it boo? Is it what do we call it now Roxy, you just say Rockies call the person by the name, but that doesn't distinguish what they are to you. This is my my love of my life Roxy. I just but I don't think she's ready to say that. I mean I just which one do you use? Are you single? Uh-oh. Okay. Does that work? The best one? I think that it was great that she threw that out there because she's so innocent. She doesn't really know and yeah thousands of years ago. Yeah bang someone once guess what they are your boyfriend boyfriend. That was your husband. There's no there was only two men whichever one you sleep with that sure perfectly. There was only one man and an Anna and I Satan and a devil or One man and a really long penis from what we heard about a banana. It was more like a banana the forbidden fruit what was being alluded to was that the forbidden fruit was a ding-dongs penis. It was a ding dong. It's more like a banana and trust me in news and gossip were going to hear all the people who want to see the banana of Lucifer a little plug there. That's a real thing. I don't see anything. So do you feel like Eve is overstaying her? Welcome. No, I don't because this Is the problem with men and women and relationship who hurt you Roxy all the people she is giving the signs like you are my boyfriend here is what I want and he behind her back is kind of iffy on it. But to her face is giving her the signs back. Yeah, that's what I want as well and she is not capable of reading between the lines at this point because guess what? She's like a newborn baby. She's new to Earth. She's not picking up on your subtle little hints Lucifer. All she knows is Guys are banging like rabbits. Why is that an expression the rabbits have a lot of sex they do. Okay, you're banging like rabbits all day long in the shower in the bed in the living room. She bought this eve costume. I'm wearing me. Obviously. She I did feel like the eve costume could have been a little more revealing just to let you know because we're on Netflix I on this looks exactly I was expecting it to be when you got a girl who's as banging as this girl. I mean, her body was Unreal and she's stunning. I Agree, it was a she's a little Eva sneaking a key. Exactly. So I thought that could be a fun way to play but whatever. It didn't really matter just saying she's gonna sit there and think you're her boyfriend duh. Yes, but on other no, hope my can I just okay. It's been a week. It's been a week. Okay for her a week wait you at that point in life. You only live till you're like 700k a week is a big percentage of your life Eve learn a lived for a long time. You've learned a lived for a long time and she's learned a lot. Sure. She's new to this Earth, but she's been on Earth before and she was from what we're getting the first person to cheat. Now that stories usually reserved for Lilith and it's interesting that we are equating that to even this one. I'm still confused on what we are claiming Eve has done and Eve story in this because it's hard to not take your knowledge of the Bible and relate it to me. And apply it so I'm having a hard time keeping things straight Also regarding the Cain and Abel situation. I had to really think about this show and be like wait Cain and Abel. Hurry, Adam and Eve's children. Yeah and think think about because you just when we watched the whole Kane storyline on the show, the last thing I was thinking about was oh canes mom's going to pop in and totally going to Bone Lucifer. So now connecting all of those dots as the people has been interesting it is Is it sit and we do have to apply our knowledge and listen to the story as they're telling it because it's a person's perspective. Right? So the same way King James is different than an orthodox Bible is just a different perspective similar some our story but a different take on it and her perspective is I'm pissed I was made to be somebody's wife. I had no choice in that and I don't want I'm not about that life. So no, I didn't cheat. I decided that I'm had personal thoughts also another characteristic that was traditionally. Or at least in the mythology was reserved for Lilith. Hmm. Why do you think they're doing that? It's II don't know what they're setting up. And that's where I want to get into. What is Yves. Agenda. Does she have a secret one definitely think she does especially with the cane thing with the cane thing. So amenadiel bring up the Cain and Abel situation made me think when she responds and was like, well, no he deserved to die after all those things. You're still a mom. You're a mommy and I don't know if any parent believes that of their kid it just it struck me as why did they throw this story in here? And then also now with all this foreshadowing and we'll get to Chloe more but with Chloe kind of giving her blessing. Yeah. I'm just thinking she's too good. This is too easy. Something's up with Eve It's All About Eve and I'm going to figure out what that mean. Did you ever watch Dogma the movie die I did and I huge Jay and Kevin Van mazing, right? The concept of Dogma was that when you could disprove something of God, then the world would end. Well, I think possibly there's a similar storyline with Eve because amenadiel brings up. Do you know what the ramifications of you leaving Heaven are hmm. Do you think God knows do you think God possibly sent her I think God is omniscient and omnipresent so It's interesting, but he clearly wasn't able to control Lucifer's actions was he or she not that is the question that is a theoretical question. So the concept is just because you know, something's going to happen. Does that mean you have to prevent it? And there's always the theory that God's understanding of the universe is so vastly different than ours that we often anthropomorphize God to make a god-like entity do the things that we would do. Why do bad things happen because we're thinking if I was God I would Let bad things happen. However, the same way that we know for example TVs exist and I could explain to you may not know how it works. But I could explain to you would you ever be able to explain that to an ant and the answer is no that is the difference of intelligence. I can explain what they would understand. Yeah, so I hadn't evil doesn't have the same meanings in God's universe theory. What if even God have teamed up to send Eve there because God does not want Lucifer with Decker and God's Theory. He is I'm going to send Eve. I already know that Lucifer will can fall for her and Eve is like I don't really want to go be with him, but I want to go to Earth. So I'll just use this fine. Whatever. I'll use this as my way there. I'll make him fall in love with me. And then I can stay on Earth for as long as I want. So the concept of freedom freedom of choice right free choice. Is it real or not? I don't we don't know. That's a theory that's people would fight over that all the time. So from Dakar to need you, that's the concept so my my thing is this. We do know that God always has an end of days game plan that's mentioned in every single revelation of every single religion basically on Earth and in the show Lucifer and specifically an agenda and Lucifer. So is this what do you think it is plan? I think that all things are possible when it comes to God and Tom pulice Stephen on me. I ask you a very clear questions are possible Lucifer needs closure. Yeah, he does and I think that this is why your girlfriend Linda is not a good therapist every time he leaves her office. He takes what you say and interprets it in the wrong way. Here's Chloe say the word closure and thinks that this is going to be the thing to give it to him. When we really this is the thing that opened the door again. He's like, oh, yep. Now I got that closure. What is he gonna do? He's gonna be her partner. I'm going to be working with you again. Is that closure? Because I'm pretty sure working with your ex does. Bring you closer not his ex is ex lover. I definitely never had do you feel that Lucifer does actually need closure would it be better off if they were apart? I I'm torn it depends on who Eve is and know you shouldn't be with one person because you can't be with another person. But if Eve is his soul mate and is the right match for him and is not the manipulative or malicious person that she could be that were theorizing then maybe Chloe isn't the right match for him but so far. From what we've seen season 1 2 & 3 I dig Chloe and Lucifer together interesting. So we get the situation where Chloe kind of digs her and Lucifer at least OH Close feeling it but girl this is sellers remorse you turned him away in his time of need. He showed you his face. And you said I'm looking at you Chloe right now that you couldn't handle it and now double Roxy I know. Well, I'm not saying that that's bad if Show yourself and you're like, yeah, I can't handle better the devil lover boy, then you need to leave Chloe. But yes, now what has happened here on another woman has come in and she's like, oh you couldn't handle it. Okay, no worries. Guess who can handle it bitch I can that's my man. Exactly and now Chloe's like oh you can't handle it. Oh, you don't have a problem looking at him. Oh, maybe I don't either oh, oh Okay, but why okay, so in the beginning we just we decided to examine why men do what they do, which is not communicate if they're feeling different. Why do we have that conflict with a woman? Well what then why what is it about a woman a woman being in a jealous situation which attracts the woman to? Yeah, so obviously these are vast generalizations. They can go for either sex as well. They're exactly what happens no matter what at all times that's true and free will God does not exist. So I think sarcasm for the people out there. Well, let us be sir. I told you guys were Jews we get to be sarcastic. I don't know if those things go hand in hand. I think that what's happening is Chloe assumed that Lucifer was always going to be there because he's so in love with her and she can tell that she took it for granted and she took it for granted and I don't think she thought that a he would move on but be so quickly and she was okay with hearing about and knowing he was being a ton of women, but it was when she realizes it's one woman that it's a huge problem for her. It's when Ella allows her to realize it was one. I was like, it's fine. It's one woman. Yes, exactly. Oh, wow. That's bad. That's bad because who cares? It's for Chloe. She's a grown woman. It's not about the sex. It's about who you want and if Lucifer is picking one person. He's obviously into her which is a huge problem. Glum, because Chloe only wants him to be in to her so she can have the option and that's another thing that happens is I don't want you but I don't want you to want other people but that's why I do love where we come to at the end. She seems really genuinely concerned for his well-being. Yes, and she does really want him to be happy and she knows the story of the Bible and she realizes maybe Eve is good for him. And that's a second. I thought maybe he's not before we continue one of the ways we keep all these shows for you free is by our amazing sponsors. And today Spotify is one of our sponsors on Spotify. You can listen to all of your favorite artists and podcasts in one place for free. You don't even need a premium account Spotify as a huge catalogue of podcasts on every topic including the one you're listening to right now on Spotify. You can follow your favorite podcast. So you don't miss an episode premium users can even download episodes to listen to offline wherever they are and you can easily share what you're listening to with all your friends and following on Instagram if you haven't done so already Be sure to download the Spotify app and search for AfterBuzz TV on Spotify or browse podcasts in the your library tab. Also, make sure you follow us. You never miss an episode of AfterBuzz TV. Well, my concern was the fact that she used the E from the Bible to allow for that Revelation because you don't know it's easier when it so this is biblical rather than it's just some girl because I remember I'll Chloe felt when it was when it was candy the stripper loves candy. Yeah his wife his wife. Wife and she felt unhappy wife. Yeah, that was a real thing that kind of happened. It was faint. But I also think that she thought that he could do better than candy for whatever judgmental reason that is what actually we can't he ended up being this shit amazing amazing the best but I think in this situation she's looking at even is like wow she cares so much about him. She stood by his side. She's so sweet. She's stunning. They're made to be together. I need to step back. Well Ellen. I'm like Eve it first Ella when she tries in for two seconds lasted all of two seconds. Yeah, it's hard. It's hard when somebody Cut You Catches you off guard and says your Ella you're the one that I mean as a woman, sometimes you can make up or as a person. Sometimes you make up your mind that you're going to dislike somebody for XYZ reason and then you meet them and if they suck then you can stick to it. But if they're great, aw, if they compliment you kill them with kindness. It's I'm such a sucker for that such an evil thing to do kill them with kindness. Your Ella goes in your amazing was first tell me all about you and they're making out by the end of the show. That's what drugs would do to you make you into a lesbian. Is that what drugs do is that how that works? No, I don't think so. I would throw out a disclaimer any second. Now throw one out there. Ella has a revelation of her own where she's like, I don't believe God. Yeah, this surprised me that we got to us but we are at episode 5. We've already seen her take off the necklace. We've already seen her questioning her faith and losing people in her life. She's it has been a slow journey to this point, but it's never good. You can have all these different realizations when you're on drugs. It is true and on hallucinogenics and on whatever you're on you can think you've come up with something but always question yourself and your moment of surprise me the next day. Day tips from Roxy because whatever she's feeling in that moment isn't real sure. It's just not she's got all of these different chemical reactions going on in her and she's decided God isn't real but it's not really her deciding that it's the chemical imbalance. So for someone who's always been sober I'm straight edge and it's not a religious reason. It's just it's not even like a something happen to me reason. It was just a personal decision. I've just stuck with it. I have noticed that people. Love to use being drunk or high as an excuse. But it to me. It's what they really felt. It's a part of them. It's just this is now exposed this. Is it all the way I think sometimes but sometimes not because there's different first of all, she's on Molly and cocaine because they thought was a good idea to get a Coke to her. Why what else would you use with Molly? It's La yeah, I guess so but what's going on is she's trying to answer questions and what you're talking about. It is, you know, drunk mind speaks to sober heart you end up making out with a guy when you're drunk the next day. You're like, oh I was so loaded know you wanted to yeah, you want some wanted to make out. Yeah, whatever it is, but this is different because this is this is chemicals going on in her brain making causing her to see things, you know touch feels different lights look different all this stuff and her deciding exactly Steve. Oh God, there is no God. That is not what her sober heart would necessarily think now check. And it might be it might be a new revelation you might agree with it. But I have a hard time believing by the end of this season. Ella is still an atheist. I think that she is at least going to be agnostic which means admitting. I don't know. I'm not sure or Lucifer is going to show his face and she's the bag well, so you think it's going to be Lucifer because I actually think it's going to be her personal agent angel that comes back. I mean that's a weird thing about the show that that angel still hasn't well because her Imaginary friends are extra episode from last night. I know she's an anyway, so it didn't actually have a place where it fit in but I definitely think it's going to play in this episode. I think it's because we got it. I think it's Lucifer and I think it's going to be that somehow Dan is casually talking to Lucifer or somebody and I was like, yeah, I feel so bad L is going down this dark path. She's completely lost her faith and Liz first going to bring a bag or a minute deal. We never Maze and Dan are we shipping that? You hate it? Aha. Love it. I love mommy more. I love me is to love me and I love Dan to but like bad down you want them to go down I do it because I'm gonna lay live vicariously through damn be I love dark tan is so much more of an interesting character than let's do things by the book Dan that look that anger. It's in him, but he is just amazes his drug. What is what are they going to do? She's gonna tie them up and whip them and bang them. I just can't picture the you know, how there's some couples. And you look at them and you're like I can picture them boning and there's a see them. I don't see I don't see the tie. Whip up. I actually think it's going to be the opposite where Dan takes charge and Maize realizes she likes it a little hand here or he's going to woo her and they're going to have sweet sweet lovemaking sounds I definitely don't see that happening the throat of phrase think like a criminal do you think that's a good way to catch a criminal? I think it's alway I don't think it's the lawful way which by the way he's a police officer. So This is so stupid down. I like it worked for Batman. Hmm. He's the world's finest detective the world real Batman at me and then have me that's how I feel about that old Lucifer first new Lucifer. We get a lot of talk about that the old Lucifer the one who sowed chaos and Destruction for his own Amusement. This is a new Lucifer we're looking to at least this is not the one portrayed in history and I feel like Eve mrs. Old Lucifer you ever fallen over some in a deal? Yes, and you ever fall in love with somebody and then they change that's happened to people before now you just looking at me. Yes too deep of a cut. It's one of those words if I ever fallen in love, that's a good question. Well, sometimes you fall in love with somebody and then they change and you're no longer in love with the person they are you were you guys either went you either grow together or you grow apart and I feel like Eva still in love with the idea of Lucifer based on who she knew thousands of years ago not in love with who he's currently presenting himself as and I do think that he's going to mold to Version because he loves to feel loved and it's going to be a really bad version of him. So maybe that's where the prophecy comes in possibly that's how it could play out. I am liking new Lucifer, but I would love to see old Lucifer with Mischief. I mean, it's just a thought or at least an episode and see what old Lucifer was always up to. Okay. It's interesting to watch. Well, if he does go into this darker place with Eve, maybe Chloe's the one to bring him out of it. That's the thing. Chloe is the light we have gotten some we have gotten a lot of Ation of how Khloe has some hand of Heaven in her creation. So there has to be a reason for that and they will not let this let that storyline go. I don't think the writers have been very on it the season I'm very impressed with how this play is because this could have been a Cheesy show and it's not I agree. I definitely feel and we see this in a minute deals closed and Chloe's heart to heart. That was a very strong one where I think that it's nice to see the two of them connect because talk often. Yeah. It's almost like we should have all of our characters check in with each other more you would think. Hey guys, we're all privy to the secret of knowledge of Good and Evil, which is Con the concept of original sin. Anyway, I was proud of her for going to him because I think it takes a lot to say like I need help and I need to figure this out and I'm going to look at this from all different angles. So I was I was glad to see this conversation. Well is Eve actually good for Lucifer? No, maybe oh I last episode. I think I said, Yes, and I think so and then this episode I'm like, I don't know what her intentions I feel like I'm Lucifer's mom was that make me Charlotte? Yeah, I'm Charlotte here. I'm thinking what do you want from? My son? What are your intentions baby? Girl? Well, here's my question to you. Here's my question about Eve Eve at the end did not like the fact or at least we get that look where it's Khloe makes you bleed, and I don't ya. She's vulnerable and I do not and yes women don't like why do you bleed sometimes and you don't and oh the detective. Yeah, I know going back for one second because I wanted to mention this in amenadiel conversation. What I thought was the strongest moment of the whole episode was the very last moment with him looking at her and saying your dad is proud of you. Oh, definitely that reach inside my soul. Oh my gosh and tore my gut out. I have no heart and still I felt oh my God, how could you not because anybody who's ever lost a family member somebody really close them? All you want to know if you believe or even if you don't believe that they're up somewhere down somewhere anywhere. You just are curious all the time. What do they think of the choices? I'm making what do they think of me? And for her to have that she's been negatively affected by every part of this so far and finally somebody delivers her good news, which is by the way. I'm an angel and yellow. I know your dad and he's brown because she clicked it clicked. She didn't get it. She let go because everyone how often people say to me. Oh your mom. So proud of you. It's like you don't know but he knows and that was the best maybe the best moment of the series of percent eat my whole soul. I almost had it. There was like had I been in a different state of mind there might have been a full T. Well, maybe you should try Molly next time it definitely does. Let's get into some news and gossip. All right, let's do it. So we've got something really fun for you today because BuzzFeed had Tom Ellis in and you know how sometimes they have you read troll tweets about, you know, Craig if somebody whatever this is the opposite of that people are so obsessed with him and crush on him so hard that they had Tom Ellis read tweets about people out there that are loving him that think he's Bay in superhot and Had to read those. It's a six minute clip. I suggest you go. Check it out on BuzzFeed because it's amazing. We don't have time to watch the whole thing. But this was one that I really loved Steve if you want to queue it up for us. I'm thirsty mum. You've just had a drink me the first for Tom Ellis never stop. Yeah. I can't really something that says mum on it without thinking about Tricia Helfer and Charlotte Richards. So good. It just like people have been tweeting all this. They're thirsty for Tom so So I'm one of those people I love him. I love him and I can't see anyone else playing this role. I know I have to agree. I he's so good. So check out that six minute clip again on BuzzFeed he reads he does the best reads and analyzes these Tweets in a way that just gave me all of the all the feels go check it out. Well, I gotta I Can't Get Enough Tom Ellis. I really like this person. So don't definitely check it out. Let's do our special segment circles of hell now just picture this. Even right now. Oh doing that rate that is it the fifth circle of hell where Stephen is in right now. The fifth circle of hell is anger. So in down there. Yeah. Yeah. He's angry. He can't be here while of course. Oh, yeah, that's a good thing. So how does this relate to the episode then? We get a lot of anger. We get a lot of anger when it comes to what was going on in the episode with what the murder I feel like. Yeah when you're murdering somebody usually you're Yeah. Yeah, we get that. I mean he was definitely upset. Mom Marco Franklin was upset. I don't think I and then Lynn Franklin showed. She was upset that Marco would try to call her out. Yeah, but what about other than the k something about our main characters was would you say that you've was angry about how he feels for Chloe or do you think I mean there's different levels of hell that I feel like might particular to that but if you Count some bit of envy and anger together. I would say that that played a major role and dark Dan is definitely angry is he? Oh he's taking matters into his own hands by his own hands. I mean mazes hand should take maze into his own hands to yeah. That's what it is. So in the circle of hell anger you are transported by on a boat by flag. Is it and Dante and Virgil see the Furious fighting of each other on the surface of the River Styx? And if you know anything about mythology that river is the one that leads you to Hell the think that that's how Stephen got there. No, I think he was dragged to Hell hmm drag down the river. No, no just right was literally dragged like literally they just came dragged him to well, I guess when he comes for his she ever comes back for our next episodes will see it what kind of physical condition he's in but he dragged it looks pretty good and she came back. Yeah, it was from heaven or was it who we will find out let's get some predictions. Whoa. Wow. your AfterBuzz TV you think that Eve possibly didn't come from Heaven All I'm saying is this is the concept of Eve is Lucifer is not in hell right now. We don't know what's been going on in hell at all. Lucifer hasn't even checked in. So you think you can get Sent From Heaven to Hell. Yes. Wow, and you think she might have been possibly wow, we still believe in free choice while we're in heaven. There's nothing that that stops IT. So she came up here to torture him. Then I feel that the cane thing was brought up for a reason. Yeah, me too. Pain is in hell. Maybe Eve went down to visit her son in Hell found out Kane is dead. Finally went to see her son. I mean, she's still a mom. Hmm. A lot of things can happen. I feel like there's a huge payoff twist. That's going to happen Okay. Okay. I theorize that Ella is going to make it so that Dan doesn't fall for Mays and somehow he's going to come back to the light side and there's going to be a little Smoochy Smoochy with Daniela Dan and Ella I'm saying it now. I like the I like the LA. Eve smooch, I don't think that's going to last you know, he liked it. Hey that could really happen until then where can people start dating you hmm. Ask his different way. Okay, where can people find you at Roxy stryer? Oh my gosh, no one's ever going to date her, but you can date me and I am Toronto across the board Facebook Instagram social media. I love to hear from all of you. And of course, we love it when you comment below Make sure to do that and you can find me hosting a slew of AfterBuzz after shows right here as we talked all your favorite TV programs right now. Our favorite TV program is some Lucifer. Yes. I'm Lucifer. 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It's the Lucifer Season 4 Episode 5 “Expire Erect” After Show! Apparently Eve's visit has more to it than meets the eye and Amenadiel's not happy about it. Chloe and Lucifer are taking on their 'last case' together because lucifer needs closure... whatever that means; and the case of the week provides a great twist in the form of a bank robbing ex! Oh wait. Lucifer also gets show, Ella makes out with Eve, and Chloe reads wayyyy too much into a sandwich. Let's talk about it! Join Tehran Von Ghasri and Roxy Striar! Lucifer is BACK! Cancelled but not for long! Thank god for netflix, and thank god for AfterBuzz TV, because WE'RE BACK TOO! Covering the latest episodes of Lucifer! Join us every episode for in depth discussion and breakdowns! There may even be some special guests so be sure to subscribe rate and comment! ABOUT LUCIFER: Lucifer is an American television series created by Tom Kapinos that is scheduled to premiere on Fox on January 25, 2016. It is a very loose adaptation of the comic book character created by Neil Gaiman for the comic book series The Sandman and its spin-off comic book series Lucifer written by Mike Carey, both published by DC Comics' Vertigo imprint. 