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What are the little Easter eggs that are hiding in there plus we've got information on Venom Doctor Strange what happens with the Netflix series going forward and how long will it be before Disney can do anything with them plus should you see once upon a Deadpool will discuss that and more on today's Marvel movie news. Welcome to popcorn top featuring movie discussion. No and interview. We talked moving and here's pop corn stalks Marvel movie news. Oh, good afternoon to you are Mary Marvel lights. How are you feeling? Okay. Okay. Yeah keeping it together Amy. I'm trying to keep it as together as possible. I mean look where it sometimes. You're just Dust in the Wind. That wasn't so hard. I'm sorry. Good afternoon everyone. Thank you so much for joining us. We are the Marvel movie news coming to you live from inside the Soul Stone because we're gonna be talking about the Avengers and Game trailer today. If you're not already you can subscribe to us on iTunes Marvel movie news. 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I this is a this is a great show as we were teasing up top. Like we got a lot to talk about with the Avengers. As trailer that came out less than 12 hours after we hosted last week's show so frustrating but we're gonna talk about Once Upon a Deadpool which I got a chance to see last night. We're going to talk about the Spider-Man far from home trailer that is not online, but they showed at a Comic Con in Brazil. So we got some details on the movie based on that doctor strange Venom to dark Phoenix had some updates. The Punisher get some Punisher stuff stick around for that but let's get started with our lead story and game Trail. I want to just I got to watch it again. I've already watched like 30 times can say but I want to watch again with you guys because it's always more fun to watch with you guys and with you and me together. So here we go am Anthony roll that tape. Yeah, okay, I love this and like I couldn't help but looking at this like that all the circuitry and like oh the nanotech is like there wasn't enough left to can only form half a helmet. Yep. Such a nerd. Oh And then you've got the the Benatar floating through space rescue is more fun than it sounds and she's I have so many questions is that so this seems to be probably very soon after the events of infinity war and there's a lot of debate about how much of a time Jump we're going to get and this sort of who knows it's hard to say. Well, I just hate seeing Tony like this because it just hurts my soul. Roll, it was interesting. I was reading some comparisons online like between Tony Stark and Iron Man Tony Stark here and like the difference between the narcissist. Oh, they dusted the log out. Oh scarecrow Thanos straight out of the comic books. Yeah still on his hand, which we'll talk about a little bit. Once we're not dealing with images all over put so and then you can see sure. Yeah, very briefly the person that's the people missing Sabbath or oh my gosh. That's really that really surprised me Seth or south or yeah. I mean, I like Ronan. Yeah and we'll talk more about this in a minute. Well separated they are from each other because it feels like you know Carter I like it. We're getting a tour of the characters in the string. Yeah, because I don't know what I'm going to do without. That's such Captain America wine. And then my favorite moment in this trailer a lot of we're just go watch this. and that in the trailer that logos fine great get it out of there because I love how I'm sure we all have the same face on when we were watching this part. We're exactly like cap. He was man. Yeah, I don't think we all had the same face because there's nobody who had as wide a grin as I did seeing a man pop up there the yeah, but I was just like why how I do have to say so, I mean you guys know that I do. Trailer reaction video so I of course did want to this trailer and I was looking for it and I didn't know the title of the movie and I saw that it was end game and I was like what so when I finally saw it, I was like, oh my God. Okay. So what does this mean and I was trying to like process the title while watching the trailer and I mean it didn't take away from it at all. I know so everyone on Twitter was also like Steve Rogers is crying crying. I was like, what what all But yeah, let's let's talk about the title because that was the first thing that I saw to I think the first because like on the west coast whenever there's a trailer drop like this, I'm always asleep when it happens. The first thing I saw was I picked up my phone. I saw an Instagram post from Kevin Smith with the with the with the poster and I was just like endgame. Okay. What do you think of that title? I think it's it's good. I think we were trying to you know. I've been trying to figure it out for a while. Now. I know a lot of people are talking about how endgame is a certain it has to do with chess not a big chess player, but it basically means that you sacrifice some of your players. Well the end game is basically when you're down to like the final stages of the game. So at some at that point guess there are usually pieces that have been sacrificed but it's that you're like, okay, there's only a few moves left before Checkmate. Yeah, that's the endgame and the and the word end. Game as they teased has been said in the movies before multiple times. It was obvious as most notably when dr. Strange said it in the last one. We're in the end game now, but Tony Stark actually said it in Age of Ultron, which I think was really cool. And there is a conspiracy theory in me as soon as they announced this. I'm like, that's not the title. We heard all those rumors that they Mark Disney's trying something new at this trailer. There's gonna be some crazy and somebody had some after I had like the I've been thinking about this for a while and I saw some people on Twitter also like having the same thought the trailer was a trailer nothing really crazy in it unless it's a trailer that lies about the title of the movie. They're putting out. We'll see I thought the thing that they were trying that was different was that you literally saw no action at all. It's no one's Moving that quickly even if it means a teaser that's not too unusual. But I mean, I guess like besides the fact that it's obviously a Marvel Cinematic Universe movie like dull we're going to be watching it. But like if people don't know anything about it, you're just kind of like, okay like that was nothing. Yeah, because they've already sold a billion dollars worth of tickets like that. You could put out nothing but a black screen and trailers and you'd sell enough tickets. It's but that would to me because to me they were so worried about spoilers and game we talked about this last week and game feels not spoilery except that like it's the end of like a big thing. Yeah. I mean, it's not that it doesn't fit but it feels like there's something it feels like they were over blowing this spoiler nature of the title for it to be endgame. Okay, so you're thinking Endgame is not the title. I think endgame is the title if I'm more logical conclusion, so we want to know from you guys in the chat. And of course if you're watching this later, let us know in the comments down below. What do you think the title is do you really think it is and game or do you not Zaya Spiel is like nah, I'm pretty sure it's the title. Let me have my theories you guys do for fun. If there's a conspiracy. Yeah, but let's break down the trailer while you guys like it. Tell me how dumb that. Theory is but yeah, so it man that you want to bring up. Yeah, so I just literally grab Stills just like in order in the trailer and I want to talk about because like we had Tony Stark like adrift in space in the like on the Benatar can go to the next one. I like that. He's in the guardianship. It makes sense because they would it would have been the only like flyable craft there. I'm cure. I'm so curious about the circumstances though because so left on that planet you had What just Tony and nebula was that really it? Yeah, so like that's correct. And that's its own interesting interesting thing like Tony and space. Yeah. Well the thing is that like he's already it feels like to me it feels like he's been there for a little bit longer than maybe we think just because he's already gotten to that point like obviously he's seen half the people, you know there I would say even more there. And tighten disappear get dusted. So look, he's already in an emotional space. That's like whoa, you know your kind of traumatized but he's also out of like everything. Yeah that there's like enough food or something for like not that much are out of food. There. Are they have enough air for four more days or more days. Yeah, but they're already out of food and water so him and nebulae are just sort of floating through space. I don't know. Yeah waiting to die. I guess there were I mean I assume that on Titan there just wasn't much fuel. They just had to go with what they had no time and I guess like nebula probably left her the spacecraft that she like crashed in because we see her walking. Yeah, she's a she I believe she's on board. I had to pull us an image of the the logo being dust. It's so funny that who's beautiful effect. But yeah, it was just like it's like, oh we're gonna punch Right in the heart again. I mean even at the end of infinity War they did the same thing. We're like, whoa, that was way too soon. Yeah Thanos the Scarecrow right out of Infinity Gauntlet. I love that. I really poignant imagery here because it's like he really did hang it up like he completed his mission. What else has he got to do? I just I feel like he's been the space of like cool just you know snapped in half of people all living creatures are gone including The animals guys had just want that to sink in and I feel like he's not going to be like cool now. I'm done. Now what I think there's going to be more of a threat. I mean even I think I actually disagree I think what this says and you can go to the next photo as we talked about this lovely car. I think this is this is like this is thanos's and game in his mind like he's done that I rest was his words. Yeah. Really? I think he doesn't need to do anything else. Like if we look at that image of his hand like he's not in his armor, but he's he's still got the gauntlet on I think it's fused to his hand really because remember it crumpled at the end of the last one. I think he is forever. Like I think the gauntlet is trapped on his hand and I think he's just like walking that planet like he's just living a Farmer's Life. Life, maybe the gauntlet is kind of like the ring and Lord of the Rings and also like in Harry Potter, you know how they have the horcrux. So it's like the longer he keeps it on maybe some of the crazier he gets. Yep. You heard it here first, if you're welcome, let's bring all these fandoms. That's it. That's a cool Theory. I think he honestly is taking a break and it's going to be until the Avengers bring the battle to back to him. Through whatever means they're going through because I the ways that I see out of this is either them taking a gauntlet back and undoing with a second snap. Yeah or breaking the Soul Stone open. Can they were can then undo the snap with another man Theory? It's the once you have all the stones like you can control reality and bend it to your will so in theory like and if our theory is correct and all of the people who got dusted are not or not dead, but are trapped inside the Soul Stone then it would just be breaking it or using it to send them back to the universe. Yeah, I like that. So it'll be interesting. I love that we have built up and then sad Steve. It's the next photo that I asked. Okay, and he shaved his beard. As far as we know unless it's his time traveling. I love how many people are upset by him shaving his beard. I get it. But like I wonderful they're great. Yeah, but like what does this mean? Is this a time-traveling thing situation here? No, I think he was just like he's not on the Run anymore. He's back in the light and time to like, you know, I'm sad I'm going to shave now. Yeah, or he he feels like he has to be brave and forward-facing. Like he grew the beard when he was in his more like Nomad like days because he's not Captain America. He's back in like these in the background hiding so he doesn't need to be presentable. But I think now that he's I assume he's back at the compound. So I have to think that after these events the sokovia Accords are just like ignore that we don't have time for that. We got way bigger problems also like we honestly don't know what lies ahead For him so this could be his last film and to kind of see him. Look as Captain America as possible just to end it. You know, I like that. Yeah. The Hulk is Bruce Banner is he's going to be messed up by this because if you talk about blaming yourself imagine like he's like if only the Hulk had shown up only I could get the Hulk out. Maybe he could have stopped a nose. I know that he's looking he's just like staring at these people that are missing which it's really quick. But Sheree is in these in this photo as well as Scott and Peter they know that's gotten Peter likes gotten Peter. It's interesting because Cherie we didn't see dusted and the Russo Brothers minor like interview type spoilers had said at one point that she was not dusted so it's possible that she's just in hiding. Yeah TBD, but they don't but the Avengers don't Whereabouts on Sherry and yeah, I mean down there. They don't know like an earth. They don't know where Peter is exactly. That's yeah, he's missing all the obviously I feel like maybe Tony would have wrecked radioed back that Spidey was on the ship. But either way he's missing in like yeah, I have to think that if Aunt May is around she's just chalking it up to him being dusted. Sorry I have to cut Dad because ink and TV says something brought up a very very good point Steve's beard got dusted after the snap according to internet memes. I mean, I'll save you money on razors. That's funny. So yeah, I think it's interesting because we don't we didn't see a lot of you know these smaller characters. Quotation marks get dusted or not get tested. So we don't know where everyone is. Yeah, there's so many people it's true Thor is just looking super pensive because like he should have gone for the head down for the head Thor and then this next photo if we bring it up, this is one that people have been debating about because it's nebulas hand. Yeah touching someone shoulder but there's been debate about who it is. I assume it's Tony. Mark I don't know how it could be anybody else. They're on a ship together in theory nebulas going to meet up with everyone at some point when they like eventually get to wherever they're going and people are like oh but look that look at that face looks like pretty clean shaven. It must be it must be cap. Like Tony Stark's fairly clean shaven in the earlier scenes in the trailer. So I think it's Tony. I think this is them like maybe right after long Launch or it's just I think it's Tony. I what if this person is not alive like not that they got dusted obviously creepy, but like what if they're dead and she's just like bye. But the head seems pretty upright. No, but like I guess it's space you like that like, oh, you know, I don't know. I just made that. We don't be morbid Amy. He's the we know speaking of Darkness. Let's talk about Ronin. We got our first look at Clint after all of this and a his you get see that classic that comic book Ronan look in that back in that behind shot. And then sad sad boy, undercut Clint. Yeah, okay, if you watch The Leftovers, you'll understand this reference. This is my first he got totally nor der stood. I think his whole family got does it? Oh, yeah both kids his wife. And yeah, I guess it's three kids because I think his wife was with last time. We saw her was pregnant. So he lost four people. At once definitely saw it all go down. We look at his eyes just like he's in so much pain. Yeah, and then I brought up a go to the next slide Anthony. This is Ronan from the comic books, by the way. So you'll see you see the sword. I'll be really interested to see if they give him none looks see him. Yeah, that would be interesting. Give me some nunchaku Hawkeye. I know he's wrote it out. It's easier to just call him Hawkeye those quads good for him. Yeah, but then we cut to a shot of girl Peggy. Oh my God. In cap still carrying that around but this is the interesting speculation because there's so many rumors about time travel. We talked about Kang and I don't think tanks gonna pop it in this movie not realistically but there's time Stone in play if they get ahold of it and go and do a time do some time travel nonsense. Like if this is your cap to 10 years of moviemaking doing some kind of time travel tour through Up as a plot device is a really tempting thing to do. Would you want to see that what you want to see time travel brought in knowing how messy and like but if you time-traveling broke like the time stream is like knowing how all that gets kind of complicated. Would you want to see it? Heck? Yes, because I love these two together and if he can see her again, I would like that. I don't mean just Peggy. Well, I really Peggy you can give me any Haley I while you want to give me on screen. I'm all about it. Yeah, but I just um, do you want to see time travel uses a plot device? Sure. Why not? There are so many stones. I think we should play around with them all. Yeah. The only thing that makes me nervous about the time travel thing is it like is it gets messy? Because if you go back and you change something mmm, then it's like, okay. Well, how much did you how much did that ripple effect but like changing that can that could be the thing that like sets up and triggers a mutant situation or a For situation and give you an easy way to like bring those characters in without too much retconning or anything like that. Yeah, you know, I feel like if anyone's going to do a good job, if you know, they do incorporate the whole time travel aspect then yeah. I feel like they can the Russo brothers would really just knock it out of the park and I'm not worried. Yeah, it would be a way to defeat Thanos is to literally go back in time and change the events. And it Undo It undo. Does all the dusting we'll just have to see yeah one theory that I saw is that the world that the Avengers have not told the world what happened? So the world doesn't know about Thanos. I mean, what should be interesting? Yeah, I don't know you're hesitant about that as in terms of are you hesitant? Because you don't think the Avengers would lie or it just it kind of reminds me of Harry Potter and then it's like, you know, they kind of like they can't tell them everything. So I feel like obviously people have been dusted. So they've got to know that something's up. So I just don't know how much they shared and like, you know, if there's there's a president in this universe. Hmm. Did he get dusted? What about the vice president knows I 50% it's not like the leftovers. 2% went away 50 percent of the population. So it's it have to be chaos. But the question is at that point it is it helpful to tell the world. What happened or is it not And that's the that's going to I guess the debate in The Avengers Minds is at this point. Is it worth telling them? I don't know chat. What do you think? Well, what the heck would they tell him? I'm so sorry stuff happened, long story short half of the living populations gone. Like I mean what the options are tell them exactly about Thanos or just be like stuff happen. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know it's and it'll be interesting to see how the It's all handled. The politics of that is like what part of why I love the Love The Leftovers is the exploration of what do the small people do after something like this like the scientists that are trying to investigate it the politicians. So in my mind, maybe I'll go and watch The Leftovers as like inside the MC. It's just the super depressing part of the Marvel Universe. Oh Charles Lee in the chat says the secretary secretary of state would notify people since he's connected to the Avengers if he even knows if he's so because I tested raw and well one of Ross isn't dusted but also Ross knows that the Avengers were probably involved but he wouldn't have been privy necessarily to the details. Yes is all that went down to Makanda. Yeah, so it'll we'll just have to wait and see how that all goes. So let us know guys in the comments or in the chat like did Like this trailer ours is is it more? Are you more excited less excited just as excited any are you more excited now with this than you were before? I mean if I could possibly be more excited like I actually I am. Yeah, I guess that's the thing is it's like my excitement level was already through the roof. So it's pretty hard to raise it up. But this this trailer it looks good. And so did it did it raise it up, then it's probably the same level that it was but only because like we got so A few things and then like Scott Lang coming at the end that so that's the thing is I didn't know what Scott was going to do. But when Scott line pops up at the end of this trailer, wow, a pizza chef. It was like I love that Scott maintains a sense of humor. Hmm. And so now let's talk about your theory the theory that you heard. Yes. A lot of people on my trailer reaction video. We're saying that They think that that's not Scott. They think that he's a scroll to what end I guess is my question and you know, what's funny enough though. Is that some people have been saying the same thing in our chat right now, so I don't know I think maybe they're just worried that that's not him especially because what's going to happen in Captain Marvel, we don't we do now we have Scrolls on planet like it is it is always going to be a question of who we are talking of like is that person that person And I don't think he's a scroll mainly because I think that the use of the quantum realm as a means of one like potential time travel and to get to Thanos. I think the quantum realm and knowledge of it is going to be vastly more important to saving the day and a scroll version of Scott Lang would not have that knowledge. Yeah, so that's thing a scroll can take on all of a person's character. Character traits and everything but do they take memories? Actually, I think they might I'd now I'm trying to remember all the storylines and like do they get your memories? Well, here's something trippier some people in the chat have been saying that there's like an archived like word that it says archived somewhere in the top left. Yeah. It's on the screen. It says top left it says archived so I don't see anything. That's a lamp. Do you guys see what does that say? What are those a it says Strat strategy? Oh archive. It is a very specifically say that it's not an archive. I know but what if that's the thing that they're like hardcore lying to our faces. I mean, that's the other thing is that you got to say all this trailer with a grain of salt because the russos love to fuck with people. Oh it does. Say archive you guys are right that does say archives. Maybe interested. It's like they're making us think that that is an archive, but then they're like no it's not but what if like, you know what I mean? What if there are just a whole bunch of steps ahead of us? Yeah, which I really don't know what that means. Is it gonna catch you guys? I didn't see that one and I've never heard of that until our chat right now. Thanks guys. You're the best. No, I don't know what this means though. Ya know. So I well it's something that we've always seen is trailers using two scenes and stitching them together to misdirect you. Well heck scream with Drew Barrymore. They made they you know made it sound like she was going to be the main character of scream and then they killed her spoiler alert. Sorry guys, if you haven't seen it by now, but within what the first like ten minutes So maybe yeah, this could all be fake what we're trying to come down to like we don't know how much of this is real. We don't know how much of this is actually going to happen in the film or not. Yeah, so that's terrifying. Yay. I'm really excited for this movie II don't think he's a squirrel but only time will tell let's wait till we see Captain Marvel and March and then Infinity. Part, I'm sorry to end game. I have to stop calling Infinity War part to Avengers end game in April. I think 2019 we double-checked. Yeah, right up. It's a hundred thirty three days 10 hours 22 minutes 20 seconds. I have a countdown 19 seconds. Thank you. All right guys before we dive into the rest of the show. I want to take a moment and thank our sponsors for today's episodes. Hit that air horn. And are Arn for the sponsor for that our sponsor? We are sponsored today by The Fabulous Loot Crate Loot Crate has all kinds of wonderful things that you can get. You get all your nerd stuff in a single box delivered right to your door, you can get up to as over a $45 value in each crate and it's less than $20 a month. 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If your I have a MC a list or if you have like movie past if that's still works, I don't even know but if you have like a subscription thing, I think it's it's a great way to spend an afternoon. If you have like kids in the like 12 to 17 range that like you didn't want to go see that were like I should keep them from seeing Deadpool because it's too far. Go see it take them to that. It's not that clean. What do you mean? It's so so they've got it under the R rating. They even go through some of the like here's what you have to do to get in our re to get a PG-13 rating instead of an R. If you like, it's jokes because it's Deadpool's he's breaking the fourth wall in every moment, but like and they use some of that very creatively, especially with the stuff with Fred Savage. It's fun, but you could see it on see it on cable. Um, it's nice that some of the profits are going to charity that's one reason to go out and see it. But in terms of just purely like do you want to spend your $15 on this not really if you can see if you have if you've seen Deadpool if you can watch it at home check it out. There is my is my personal take on it, but it is fun. If you're just looking for something to see at a theater. Yeah. Well my friend she saw and she said that she actually liked it more than dead pulled to she has an eight-year-old daughter and I asked her well, would you take your daughter to see this one? It's just like well, no, so that's what you're saying 12 to 17 maybe but if you're older than that you want to watch it why not? There's still plenty of violence. Like it's still Deadpool. It's just they have the blood is off screen and stuff like that. So like you still don't want to take a little kids to see it and they do play with strong language and like play with strong language. Like I don't want to so that's some of the jokes are how they like play with like what they can say what they can't say, so I don't want to ruin those for That sounds enjoyable. It's like I said, it's fun. It's just not take multiple people out for fifteen dollars a ticket to go see a movie. You've already seen necessarily fun. Yeah, you can schedule see it on basic cable. This will be the version that airs on basic cable. And yeah, it's for that. It's great. It's way better than just like cleaning up dialogue and putting something on TNT. Yeah, you can now show this version on airplanes or wherever what's nice is like you can go watch it if you want, but if not, Not you still have Marvel stuff that you can watch. Yeah, and yeah it you can still go see into the spider-verse this weekend after work till 11:30 tonight. And there's no actual midnight screening. So I'm the wait till the weekend. Thanks a lot AMC planning committees. There is a really fun. There is a really nice thing at the end after the credits after all the seats like just wait until the end. If you do go see it in theaters. There's Some Stanley stuff that will break that will make you cry. It's really nice. It's really it's really simple but they showed some outtakes from his Deadpool 2 stuff. Well, that's just it's worth goes going to see it just for that. I mean again like you it'll be just as effective on the small screen. That's my that's my thing. Like whether you're if you're weighing spending the money or not you can you can skip this one on the big screen, but I do say check it out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, go see spider-verse again this weekend speaking of Spider-Man. Yeah, let's talk about Spider-Man far from home. So we're not going to give you all the details, but they did show a trailer at Brazil Comic-Con that there's a rumor it's going to come out next week rumor it like for everyone to watch but the showed it off at Brazil and it gave us some some plot details. About Spider-Man far from home set apparently commented. Nothing about Infinity War just ignored it entirely which is an interesting tactic which I think you just kind of have to do because otherwise you just spoil it like we all know Spider-Man's come back. Yeah, no one's under any illusion that he's dead. But rather than like address it they just ignore it. Okay, I respect that. Yeah, so the details that we did get and so If you don't want these spoilers want to wait for the trailer for the movie. I'm warning you now hit that little like skip 30 seconds ahead button or cover your ears. Wait, that's kind of scared me. But you so spider. So Peter is going on a field trip or a field trip a like school trip to Europe. Okay with net and MJ and he leaves the Spider-Man costume at home intentionally does not take it with him. But once he's over there. Nick Fury gets to him and he's like, I need your help kid. I don't know if he says that that's all it's all like but like Nick Fury does find him and then there's apparently a sequence with Jake Gyllenhaal's Mysterio helmet off fighting alongside Spider-Man trying to take down Hydro man who no one knew was going to be in this movie until this came out. Oh my God. Hydro man being a sort of like in terms of power set like think of the Sandman but he's got but its water. Yeah. So Mysterio, the the rumor is based on this is that he's going Mysterio is a like an agent of some kind like he's not just a special effects Guru. He's like actually a Like somebody who like is working maybe with Nick Fury and Murray Hill. We're both in this movie. So there's some cool stuff coming from Spider-Man far from home. Yeah. I'm excited about this. Of course this the Mysterio and him fighting hydro-man could all be illusion that mysterious putting on them. Nothing Is What It Seems it's all Mysterio lying to you we don't gosh, I feel like there's something beautiful about being a Marvel fan but also something that like you have to have a lot of strength, you know because this we go through a lot guys like we don't know if this is all real fist like will happen if it's not we don't we don't know anything I just love the I was able to say all those sequence of words like hydro-man and Mysterio and Nick Fury and like all this stuff and it made total sense People that are listening to this podcast. Yeah. Thank you guys so much for listening. But yeah, those are the details that we've got. Does that do the are you excited for like the inclusion of like hydro-man and a potential Spider-Man Mysterio team up? Yeah. I I'm curious to see the trailer like I don't cut like I am not sure if like what people are saying is true like, okay, so they saw the trailer what you just told us. Is that true. Yeah, that's like journalists that were in the room. Are like this is what I saw. This is what we're reporting that we saw the so they're the they're probably going to clean up the trailer won't be a hundred percent what we saw going to be mostly what they showed their I think partially they do this as a tester of like, okay. What do people react to What should we enhance which we kick back and then they'll put that that trailer up presumably next week the 18th is what people are saying in the chat, although it seems crazy that it's not being put with spider-verse this weekend. I mean, we don't know it's they keep they could surprise drop it. It seems the time unless you don't want to throw people off. Maybe it's at the end of spider-verse like the way they showed the spider-verse scene at the end of Venom. Yeah, that could be a new thing that Sony's trying to do with all their stuff and I like here's the next one watch our stuff. Please see our Spider-Man movies that don't know Spider-Man. Yeah, I'm game for whatever they give us. I just kind of want the trailer now right now. Yeah. Yeah get on it Sony. Yeah, what are you doing? Dr. Strange too so we can lift this color comes up. Dr. Strange, too. Has confirmed its director and maybe its release date. Yeah, I know. So this was just released. Obviously this week this this is all according to the Hollywood Reporter. The script is supposed to be written next year, which is just like 19 days away and the plan is to begin production in Spring of 2020, which would then kind of lead it to a may possibly 20 On release which will go pretty exciting. We will of course see Benedict Cumberbatch Benedict Wong as well. I just realized those are both Benedict's. Yep. I just realized that when his name is Wang Wang and he plays Wang, it's wonderful. This is all so trippy. Yeah also, You sure if Rachel McAdams will come back but she's likely to return which I would say so yeah didn't get enough time to shine in doctor strange. And Rachel McAdams is a phenomenal actress. So I would love to see what else she could do with more of an arc like more to do in that role. But it also like I want her to not just be the thing is that character is sort of just there as like a love interest necessarily it'll depend on what plotline they want to do. Yeah, and so Apparently the search for a writer to write the script is about to get underway got it. So whatever that means because that might mean that Scott Derrickson doesn't co-write it. Yeah, Scott Erickson. I don't think we actually said his name Scott Derrickson is back to direct the same director as the first one will be back anything. You learned that there were there I had issues with the first one. It's like on the lower tier of my Marvel rankings thing is like all the Marvel movies are pretty high in like General rankings. But in terms of like where it falls in my list Doctor Strange is pretty low. I felt like the plot didn't the effects are amazing the way they but like it didn't do everything it needed to in terms of it was a little too World collapsing and not enough character-based like cuz casillases motivation was very weird for me. So those are the things that I think they can clear up is I'm hoping for a Barren that this is Baron mordo the no more magic. Thank you. A that they teased at the end of the first one. That's what I want to see in this one. Did you have any plots in mind that you wanted to see your you're just excited to see more of it. The thing about Marvel's that I can count on them to always like either make me really happy. You're like, you know feel a lot of really intense feelings. Thank you infinity War. So I'm game like I'm literally just in it for the ride, and I know that it's gonna toy with my emotions and but I love that because that's why I love Marvel and I love that like we got to bring all kinds of characters. So I really like I just wanted to be good which I know it will be. I would like a little bit more Rachel McAdams in there. I don't know that I necessarily sniffs just necessarily need more of her I would but like I like her as an actress and if but if they're my point is they're going to use her use her effectively first. She wasn't in there that she wasn't in this first one. Yeah, but like I said, I think Baron mordo is the ripe villain for this because I love the idea of a magic user trying to you. Magic to get rid of magic. It's a the the cannot lie, like moral and ethical questions that are going on there. That's the type of small-scale story like it's still big there's still obviously large consequences, but it's much more character base as opposed to there's a cross dimensional space being who's going to destroy the entire world and is offering make something to cosatu silius to motivate. Him to do it. It was a little muddled. But Baron mordo has a clear motivation and that's what I'm hoping that they see if I could recommend a writer for this project. I think some people some of you listeners may know him may be familiar with his work. His name is Matt key. I think you're good. If you're looking for a writer, who knows Doctor Strange pretty well. He's he like just find them on Twitter at that at the Mac key. I think he's I think he'd be open for I Drop what he's doing. It's a busy guy, but I think he could get him. Okay Sydney. We said you could get him we should start a hairstyle guys. What would you like a tea for strange Mackey confirms Mackey confirms he's available for dr. Strange. Anyway, you said it. Yeah. I mean, we really don't know. I don't think he contradict me speaking of sequels. Yes, Venom to was confirmed by by the writer of the first Venom Jeff Pinker who apparently is not at this point not going to be involved according to him. It just sounds like this comment reads sort of better like on the page where it when he's asked. If he was asked about the sequel and he's like it's definitely happening, which is the first official confirmation that we've gotten but it made 800 million dollars the global box office Sony's doing a sequel. They also set up a sequel they already cast Woody Harrelson in a four second roll the gorgeous wig that I know everyone loves it. I yeah we've talked about for I hope the sequel's are rated. I think they should be but They probably what they'll probably keep it up each of the training, especially once upon a Deadpool is doing pretty well in previews. It pulled in $900,000. Yeah, like crazy for a movie that is already out. You can buy it on Blu-ray for like $10. But and then what Amy you were the one that found this quote about Tom hot weather Tom Holland could show up. Yeah Pinker replied without revealing anything. I'm not allowed to reveal its not impossible than in a future / upcoming Venom movie Spider-man will play a significant role. I love it because when people when someone says something like that people like he's gonna be in it. Oh my gosh. She we don't know basically what that says to me is like his I'm not I wasn't a huge fan of the Venom. V but I love the song The Eminem. Of song called Venom which you've obviously heard us, you know saying here quite alright that jammed. No, I won't now. I mean the movie it's just like it didn't do any of what I wanted a Venom movie to be based on what I connect to about that character. They keep calling a rom-com it wasn't if they done the wrong Tom I would have been there. Whoa, I would have been all about that romantic comedy version Venom any day. That's not what they gave us. I think what they're saying with Quote what he's like basically what the implication is here is if you look at that movie, it doesn't do anything that would necessarily step on MCU continuity. They kept it contained enough that you could say that that happened in the MCU and move on from there. That's why part of why I think they kept everything inside of San Francisco, which the only thing we've done in San Francisco is Ant-Man the WASP. Hmm res both both Ant Man movies. We're in San Francisco. But nothing crazy happened there that would prevent Venom from being poked, like like retconned into the MCU. It would be pretty clean if they wanted to. Yeah. I mean, I actually I did really like Venom. I'm curious to see exactly like if they're going to change things, you know, obviously if we're going to have a different director or a different writer some things might change, but I don't know I feel like it's going to be interesting because It did do so. Well and I think it surprised a lot of people to see what Liberties they do take like if they want to Veer off a little bit, but obviously not into I'm see you. Yeah. Well if to see what to see what they do with Carnage in the sequel since that's what I mean. That's what there's what they're doing or change that wig. I mean with more screen time, they'll spend more money on the wig. Do you have a real quick? This is just an update on X-Men. Take Phoenix Simon kinberg the director was talking about why it got pushed because it got pushed like a entire year and the basic update whether you whether you take this at face value or not. He said it's not it there were rumors that it was because Sophie Turner was busy with Game of Thrones or because Disney got bought and that was that was causing them to make major changes to the script and all kinds of he said the only reason it got delayed was effects the effects were taking Longer than they anticipated and it's not a thing where like, oh, well, it's going to take an extra two months. Then you push back two months you push back two months and now you're up against something in really states that you don't want to be up against or you've or like it's just a bad time of year. There's all kinds of reasons. So it became a thing where according to him Fox I guess now Disney sees it as enough of a summer tent pole that they want it as a summer movie. So they may we wanted to keep it as Summer so they pushed back an entire year then giving them plenty of time to work on effects. Here's the thing. Like I think most of us, you know talking about this for most of us listening to this. We were not in that space. You know what I mean? Like we're hearing all of these things of like, oh, well, this is why and I think it's easily for people to be like, oh just get it together and like I get it but I also want it to be good. So if this means they're going to push it again, you know like that. It's it's most definitely Coming out when we were first told duh, but I just wanted to be good and I understand effects take a while. I get it maybe you know bring in some more people so that it can get done but like whatever that's show business that happens. Yeah. I'm still my own reservations about this movie has nothing to do with the effects of the release date. It's more just like, all right, let's finish up this these Fox X-Men movies so that we can MC get some mutants the MCU. Oh, yeah, because I've heard some amazing pitches that like totally changed. My perspective on mutants in the MCU because I originally wanted them to be separated and somebody gave me a pitch. That was so great and such an interesting take on the war on the real world affected through this stuff that it was. Yeah make that want to see that someone like it was a hectare Navarro a Geek and Sundry and I were talking about Hector's been on this program. If a couple times the past and the idea that you could use like because the big question is oh, but there's people with powers all over the place like what that's why would people hate on. Mutants well people in the real world hate on groups that are totally the same as people that you respect all the time. It's very real for the that hypocrisy especially today is incredibly real so to use mutants to talk about that and the like well, why do you like Captain America but not beasts like what's your like? What's your problem with just there to they're just both have powers? Yeah. Why are they different to you? And forcing people to deal with that and put that Dilemma on screen could be a really interesting take and I got to have all credit to hectares now because that was not my idea but it's a perfect way to overcome that that or use that issue and make it the Forefront. All right run along. Let's move into Marvel TV time. Oh, that's right. Brought my guitar guys. It's okay. Hello, if you watch me do air guitar, it's so obvious how much I don't play guitar strumming is right. I was just like I kept going. I'm like all right at all the big story. Well, there's two there's two there's two weeks or so. The interesting one that I want to start with is there's an update on the Netflix situation with the cancelled Daredevil Iron Fist and Luke Cage series that apparently according to the contracts that Disney side with Netflix. They are not allowed to To use those characters at all, whether it's in you cannot like the sun even talked about whether they're rebooting or starting with a new actor anything. They are not allowed to use those characters in a film or TV series until 2020. Yeah. So and like there are some rumors that like you never could even like do things to like push that back even further, but that's no reason for them to do that. this sort of puts a I guess here's the thing 2020 if this point like if they were going to try to there are it's only like a year of pre-production and then a year of production and then it's out so you weren't going to get it before that. Anyway. Yeah, but it does sort of put a damper on those. Oh, it's just going to jump over to Hulu. It's going to jump over and Disney goes by Netflix out on these kinds of things, but we're probably yeah, we're probably not going to see these characters for a couple of years the very least but we still have daredevil on like we still have these. Oh, yeah, they're still there. Netflix is going to have those in perpetuity. Yeah, because when I first read this I was like wait why because obviously like that's heartbreaking. I don't like that. I feel like we were all doing such a great job moving forward like all of us because we all had something to do with it which we did because we were watching it. I just feel like we were such a great momentum especially with you know, the Redemption I would say of Iron Fist and the second season and with us season 3 of daredevils, so freaking good. Yeah that I was really bummed because it's like why would you take something away? Way right one it was like, you know and to really know that we won't have anything anytime soon is hard but at least we have them right now on Netflix and like you say it does take time to make these things. So 2020 will be around the corner. My I had a thought that like could be a really cool way for them to utilize these characters and maybe even keep the actors around because it's tough to do a new series with The original series on another platform and things like that, but I was thinking that maybe this is a way that maybe they start using Disney plus to launch some like basically a big screen version of Marvel two-in-ones which like you do like you have like the things like, oh it's the thing and mr. Fantastic and it's a good or you have Captain America and Iron Man like as the the titles of those books like yeah all those like to character LED like miniseries you could do like Spider-Man and Daredevil and you do like you get because it's the Marvel. It's the Cinematic team heading up Disney plus you can bring in some of those big screen characters for these like little things like they're doing low-key and Scarlet Witch in the vision and then pair them up with like one of these things like you could do a Nick Fury and Luke Cage series like just because but you just call it Nick Fury and Luke Cage four-part miniseries. Series and you just get it done or two to our made for streaming movie kind of thing. I'm just really curious. Like what does this really mean for the future of these characters? Like, you know, like I said, we had just such a great momentum that like what the heck is this going to do? I mean, it's a damper like the this is sometimes the business gets in the way of creative don't like that. Yeah. Well, it's what you got so the truth is like because especially with this probably not going to see any kind of momentum or movement on any production on any of these Netflix series except for the two that are in production until at least this contract expires in 2020. So you probably won't hear about anything. I'm sure that Kevin feige and Disney are like swirling with ideas of what to do. Yeah, but they can't move on any of them for a few years. We'll see you as worried as I am about, you know, keeping all of the excitement there whenever We do get something obviously, we'll just like rush to it. So it'll be fine. It's just kind of like selfishly speaking. We just want more stuff now that's good already, you know, well, you still got season 3 of Jessica Jones coming, but before that you've got season two of The Punisher and we got a little teaser of that. I don't know if you guys caught this it just came out Netflix put out a little teaser trailer of all. Of their shows coming in January and we didn't know the punishers release date yet and we still sort of don't but at the end of this trailer where it's like, oh you got unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt part season, whatever part 2 and you've got this show coming Lemony Snicket's coming like all this stuff and then at the end it's like, oh that's everything. That's everything's coming. And then Anthony hit it with that trail. This is what we saw at the end. It's like oh trailers done you got y'all Cajon close your browser window as move forward. Whoa. What's that what's going on guns some intense car van bam, and that's it. That's all you get. Oh, but it's enough. So Punisher coming in January and then you had a picture posted by Jon Bernthal which just like a little it looks like you took a picture of a screen. Because you can see the little lines but he's got the full skull regalia going and he's just Punisher and get in there punish wearing it. She hurt but yeah, so I'm curious have you guys in the chat or excited if you're looking forward to season to season one was a very good very dark show. I'll be interested to see what they do with with with the second season and it'll come I'll bet you they're going to drop it at random. I bet you we won't know until it's out. Like they'll do a Beyonce thing. They've tried to do that with season one. Hmm. If you remember they were planning on doing that. They were going to at New York Comic Con that year they were going to show episode 1 to the fans and then oh by the and one other thing they're going to do that and then be like it's online right now. Yeah, but they didn't because of some unfortunate real world shooting events. And that made that make the Punisher really hard to take in a context of but they were very aware of it show is very aware of it as well. But I think they're going to try to do that with here with the Punisher season 2 is just like we're telling you it's coming this month and then it'll just show up on your cue one day. I would love that. I love it when Netflix does things like that as a fan. I love that as somebody who talks about TV shows and has to plan things and get ready. And make like rundowns and all that. Please give me some warning. I don't need heads up Marvel. Oh god. Let's ride the Wave A lot of people in the chat are pumped Zeiss Bilu. I think season two's can be great and gritty. Yeah, like people high-end computer. Yeah people are excited about it. And I think it's gonna be great in January sometimes. Yeah. Well, so stay tuned for that. We'll talk about that. So once it does drop see it, like I said season one was was a really I think it was a really good show. It wasn't my taient kind of show personally. It's not the kind of thing. I chase. Usually I like go actively try to watch that doesn't mean that it wasn't good like it absolutely was and that's part of what I love about Marvel Comics. And now that they're doing with Marvel on screens like TV and movies is like there's a Marvel for everybody. Yeah. There's you can go to if More comedy inclined like me you can watch Thor Ragnarok 80 bajillion times and always be laughing and if you're more of a you want something intense and dramatic you can watch The Punisher and they're both Marvel, they're both amazing and they feel completely different. I love that and if you just want to like some kids style laughs you can go watch Marvel Rising, which is wonderful. All right that or so we're gonna have to wrap it up now, but before we do and you want to give some So some quick shout outs to our fantastic Mary Marvel lights. 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