Before I continue one of the ways, we keep all of our content for you. The listener free of charge is our amazing sponsors, and today anchor is one of those sponsors. If you haven't heard about anchor it's the easiest way to make a podcast. Let me explain it's free. There's creation tools that allow you to record and edit your podcast right from your phone or computer anchors going to distributor podcast for you. So it can be heard on Spotify Apple podcasts and everywhere podcasts are listened to and you can even make money from your podcast with no minimum listenership. It's everything you need to make a podcast in one place download the free anchor app or go to Anchor Dot f m-- to get started. Hey gang, what's going on? Welcome Back to the show. It is Cobra Kai season 2 episode 8 Glory of Love and we have a special guest in studio with us. Mary Mauser will see you guys in one second. You are tuned in to AfterBuzz TV the ESPN of tv top. Now let the holy moly. I know this is exciting. I can't believe you're here. I just watched hours and hours of You must be exhausted skated before so this episode was, you know, very exhausted a literal separate training session for this episode for like us like no stunt doubles were used for this stunt doubles were around and they can you just hold my hand. No literally like we had, you know, all this training going into the show was all this like martial arts stuff and then like by the time we're like a couple weeks and they're like, hey, everybody knows how to roller skate, right? We're like, yeah sure. Every one of us other than Tanner was like, uh Tanner who plays Robbie was just like yeah cool, whatever and so we got a whole separate training to weekends for this is roller skating not something that's still no I cannot so I don't know who that was like a huge Friday night was there more roller skating training. Then there was karate more dangerous seven and eight she super awesome. She was directed on season one as well. And she has she heard that I was horrible at roller skating and she was like I got you so she actually took me the first time and she was like, let's go we'll talk about the episode. We'll talk about the character. You know, where you feel like you are at like with all this stuff and and while we do it well roller skate, and I forgot that I put the locker key in my back pocket. I fell so many times and then I the other than a few days later, I think I was trying on like a bathing suit for an Episode II like what the hell happened. I had a big big black and blue bruise. So I think I came out probably more beat up from the from the roller skating than I did The Karate awesome. Well, there's a lot to talk about in this episode. We are going to we want to pick your brain about all the things that happen, but it's episode 8 there's a there's some big stuff going on Johnny as relationship of Carmen. We want to talk about that a little bit, you know his super sweet White Snake dream that the episodes card. Yeah. There's Daniel is trying to repair that obviously, it's not going well after what's happened with missing the meeting you Sam's relationship with Robbie, which we're super excited to talk to you about and then of course Johnny wanting to really kind of update what's going on with Cobra Kai the tone he really wants to take it back into his hands with the departure of Korea. So there's a huge amount of stuff to cover and I think let's just let's just jump straight in with the same relationship with Robbie because I think oh, yeah, that's this has been Here There and Everywhere this season and we're all wondering just kind of where it's going to go. Yeah. Yeah, go, please. Go ahead. No. No, I need you. I don't know. I could say but then I feel like it was same time. It's like II to me it was so normal. It was like after last season. I we all sit around make predictions in our head and I'm like, okay, so like they can't do like gallon Sam too soon. So it'll probably be Robbie. But like do I like him does he like me? Like, where's that gonna go? So like we had all these like predictions that we made at the end of last year and then going into this year. I think it was weird because like going into for season one when I did my audition. I knew I met Show Low and I was like, I'm gonna have to kiss you at some point and I was like am I That way, you know in a way that like kissing a total strangers normal, but like it was it was something I could have like knew going into the relationship. Whereas with Tanner. I had a whole year of friendship and then going into this season. I was kind of like this is gonna be weird weird weird. Yeah that seem like this is awkward. Yeah. It was actually super fun because he and I were just like best friends we hung out all the time. So I felt like it was very like natural. Yeah the way that it felt but I'm so curious to know what other people's reactions were because the whole time Filming everything people going to hate it or people going to love it. Like I know there's so many teams San Miguel's and then there's going to be I feel like people who kind of see this new like other side to her that maybe this is kind of more of a better place for her. I don't know some have people reacted on Twitter. I mean, have you following your people say like, oh, I'm team Miguel. I'm team Robbie. Yeah. No, I'm definitely I've last year. I mean it was literally like everything in my offseason was a message at least three messages a day saying it's a man Miguel question mark same and Miguel question mark and I obviously Answer anything so I'm just like sitting here like please don't be mad at me. And then now these entities come out. I've been like I've seen a few like okay, I see where this is going. Like ok. Nevermind. I change my mind now, it's Robbie their styles are so different. I thought it was interesting when we were there at the Paley event with you the other night. I loved I loved what they wore to the event. Yes answer is in the bright red suit and he's got the Fedora got the style doesn't like way way more of like just like a I even asked him about it. He just like looked like a bro. You look like a cool. Oh, you're super cat. I have no styling sentence. Like I rely on my buddies to actually put this together for you know, they're they're both awesome. But the I totally just like in the show, they are completely different people. Yeah, which was interesting. I guess to kind of Imagine where how Samantha would go from one to the other and such kind of like polar extremes, but I feel like that's kind of where she's going like she at the beginning of the season is just in a place of like I need to cleanse from what I went through and kind of similar to Miguel and where he's going with It's like this polar opposite of what they had originally. So I feel like I ate it for me like made sense that she would start to develop feelings for Robbie. Also, like Aisha says and I think episode 3 or whatever like you're just you and abs out there like training in the hot sauce is a great argument there. I love Mary that you brought up like this is like Sam needs to cleanse the summer from everything that she just went there because we have talked on the show about kind of what was her motivation for wanting to pick up Karate again, because obviously all the Kids and Cobra kind of have a background of being bullied and want stand up for themselves. Sam's background isn't exactly that so I guess it is kind of just you would you say just trying to forget everything? Yeah, get her own hands. I feel like I feel like you know, I've talked before about how I imagine that when Sam was younger and like we all know she practiced karate when she was a kid and like how when you're younger but lessons you learn from a parent from her parents, like don't sink in quite the same or like me and quite as much because you're a kid and it's like yeah. Yeah sure like kids are me and I'm like It's important to stay true to yourself. Sure. Like they would be like to become a teenager. You're like, oh like maybe that actually is like mean something and it's more important and kind of like how she would realize at the end of last season that the people she was hanging out with maybe aren't the people. She wants to be like aligning herself with and then that you know, this guy who broke her heart. He represents all the Cobra Kai is to her now. And you know, even though her best friend is also there like she doesn't know where she stands at all that so like that she would go back to her dad and his style of karate. Rather than joining Cobra Kai or rather than going back to what we imagine she did in her off time like gymnastics or ballet or whatever else how she did to keep active, you know like that. She would go back to those lessons that maybe she didn't quite understand the first time but now she realizes that there's something there that could apply to her now the a gymnastics background little bit. I don't Tanner does Tanner does Hard he goes hard. He works hard. The four of us ran together. It was shallow Tanner Jacob and I for like the month before we went and then for the two weeks there and you know, she'll just go super hard. Jacob's just goofing off having a great time. I doing whatever he can do trying to learn how to do these backflips and just oh my gosh knocking himself out on the floor. It was so funny. And then and there's Tanner who's just like effortlessly like, oh you want to see me do an aerial? Sure. No problem do anything to do like a back? Okay, fine, like super easy for him. And then there's me he's over there. Like sweating with all of my hair in a mop on top of my head just like we'll get through this your character. I think this episode changed because I always thought it you know, especially in the first seven episodes that you were going to be the go-between between Cobra Kai and Miyagi and you were going to help bring thinking like well, they're not all bad. I think was what you were saying earlier and this see this episode. I think in in addition to the last one you will win Torrei comes in kind of changes that and you really dig into just being Miyagi yeah, well, I feel like that like that moment. When when Robbie and Sam walk into the roller rink, and he is Sam we see I see Miguel and that's like, oh you two know each other this girl who's like been awful and I feel that she's stealing away my best friend who we were supposed to reconnect at this point, like why you know, and she's defending her instead of coming to me and like all this stuff. And and now of course my ex-boyfriend now is dating this girl. And of course, she's in Cobra Kai like that is perfect sense. And then I feel like that's kind of like the moment we're for Me like with Samantha that it changes into you know, you know what like there is something going on here. There's something more and I feel like also just emotionally like you can't always stay in check. I feel like Samantha does a pretty good job of being pretty logical even though she gets caught up in her emotions. She starts to try and she's thinking forward and she's trying to figure it out and she's like, okay, I'm heartbroken, but I'm not just gonna sit around be heartbroken. I'm gonna challenge myself and go back and get you know, and she's like thinking ahead of herself. But in that moment, I feel like it's just like okay, of course and then at the end of her beautiful date night, You know Tori ruins it for her and that's like, you know, I feel like just that kind of is the beginning of the downfall of like let's be fair. There wasn't one line that you said where I really felt bad for me gal wouldn't when he confronted you you were like, but it's not a date. It's like oh that is exactly how you played Miguel and he knew it I felt horrible as I was even saying I was like I didn't realize a person is reading the script. I was like, it's not a date and I was like, oh, oh, Samantha. You to check yourself out. This is not fair. I'm surprised actually in that scene at the roller rink, because there's a couple things that we realize in a couple lessons we get but I was surprised that Miguel's reaction to seeing the two of them together was as like mellow as it was there actually because I feel like you I almost feel like you would have freaked out but I guess now he's got Tori so I mean that that whole entire the four of them and then the other part of it that was so interesting is that she trips are but then she reacts and then you guys get in trouble. Yeah, which is like substance. Lesson of Miyagi doe versus Cobra Kai, you know, it's like if you react and you react angrily and you're gonna be the one that gets thrown out, right? Yeah, I'm Peyton's little smile at the end just like she's so nice in person, but she gave a small was like what could fight deserved it slammed you and then you tripped. I'm like yeah Sam. I know it's wrong but good for you. Yeah. No, I mean, I'm also the french fries flying. That was what I felt bad about always it fries. No, Sorry about your parents are in the show are having a bit of a tough patch. And you know, Daniel is trying to do everything that he can to fix it with Amanda. Now, one of the things I think is really funny anytime. You have a show that's based in LA. And those was the live in LA you relate to the things like sugar fish is my favorite Sushi is like the top of the top. I love it. I'm obsessed with it. Like I look forward at any time I ever get to go to that place. You know, we mentioned Joan's on Third like it's just funny and he says, you know, I went over there. I went over the hill and it's like we relate to that stuff. It actually means that I know I love that. I love. And even in season 1 there's that like shot where John he's driving in this the sign says like welcome to Encino. I'm like, it's so funny. But so he tries to do everything that he can Daniel does to get her back, you know, he's bringing the kids in to help clean. He's he I mean honestly he's going back to the old memory and it this feels like a this feels like a TV moment, right? It's like it's an arc. You need to show this in the episode he needs to get her back you needs to show that effort, but he's still not Totally making it happen. He's still not completely like it's band-aiding the situation and she makes the comment it's a head wounds putting a Band-Aid on a great line. Yeah. Our marriage is ahead open head wound. Yeah. I know that got me. I'd be like that. I feel like I love Courtney so much who plays Amanda? I think she's amazing. I like I've seen people compare her to Miyake and I think that's so true that she's like Daniel sent her. You know, she asked me checks her like that and she's like, you know, but in her way, it's not the like wisdoms that she gives but it's these the wisdoms. Wrapped up in this like little sarcastic bow, and she does like gives them a little a little check every once in a while. I'm like, I love that and definitely like it was hard for me as their fake kid, but also is like a viewer to like watch the relationship this season and I felt like that moment like at the in the car and when they you know, when he tries his best and you're right, like it doesn't fully fix the problem. The problem is still he splitting his time. The problem is still he's his mind is not just on his relationship and his family where and his business where it was a year ago. Now he's So caught up in this Cobra Kai world and I feel like that definitely comes back. Like he doesn't necessary band-aid and if he does better than Band-Aid it by the end, you know when they have that moment in the car, I feel like that's more than a Band-Aid. But at the same time we see in like 9 and 10 in the tensions between them still that it doesn't necessarily make it go at all away and we'll talk about that a little bit more because obviously there is more to talk about there. So but on the flip side of it the other relationship in the show is the one that the episode opens with which is such a such a hilarious moment such a great sequence. I could watch that opening. Yeah a million times. Yes Johnny and he's imagining Carmen and it's like a throwback to the old white snake videos with him like Tawny Kitaen on the car from back in the day. Yeah, like there's the old Whitesnake videos and David Coverdale and he's totally it's it is the white snake song and he's just like you look on his face as he sleeping. Yes. So good so good where she's pouring cores in his mouth hysterical. I loved I remember when everybody was like talking about this like, oh we're moment. We're from the dream sequence today were filming the dream sequence today and I was like dang I was on another unit. I didn't get to see it happen, but I just thought it was so funny the like the like Gigi the like her like black robe or whatever that like Matt minute like Aggie and then like training. I thought it was so funny. And then she like she like throws her leg up next to his head. I think it went away. Oh, yeah go girl. I can be hot. There's like a lot. I mean they live that's just like a real Love Letter by the pilot for the creators of the show and they talk about how much love they have for like back. Future too and these old movies from the 80s. Yeah, and this is a very very clear throwback to all these music videos and it's just part of the culture back. But yeah, it's really great. And so then we start talking about Johnny and his love life and this app culture and you can do what you like. Do you like that? He comes up with for things like your teeth. This is Johnny Lawrence a smartphone like cringe, but it's so good. He's on the day and she's like you can read your email on your smart watch He's Yeah, I read mine on my smartphone. Yeah, but yeah, so and and him on the day. It's great and he's like so what do you what do you like Johnny? What are you looking for is like muscle cars Iron Eagle 1 and 2 that's enough that's on the internet. I love the winning when she when the lady that he State like the first I think it's the first like date that he goes on and she's like, yeah, I have two kids while Juan he's like, yeah, I work with kids all the time and she's like that's amazing. Like that's so great. He's like, yeah one time like this kid is like goofing off. It was on his phone. Whatever and she's like, oh, I know how that is and he's like, yeah, I just made it a flying elbow that problem just like oh my God, this is how he would parent like so as he's as he's doing this thing and he's on these dates. There's one really interesting thing that happens and he's looking up a lie, and they've now teased Ali a couple times and he sends her accidentally accidentally because he decides it's not a good idea after a desperate message that he deems desperate himself before sending. Yeah, but it sets up. You know, we haven't seen Elizabeth Shoe in the show. Yeah, and we may or may not but this is definitely a moment and you see it a thing happen as the girl bumps into him and you just go I want to know more right now. I need to know more what's happening. Even I the viewer. I like a lot of times that we were shooting back-to-back day. Like we were shooting on the by the time you reach the end of your shooting like three units on one day like it was Insanity like just getting everything crammed it because you know, they want a bigger and better this year. We got the same time line. So we're doing bigger and better as We have our ability but there were days where I mean, I'm we're over on the Miyagi unit. There's a cobra Kai unit. It was almost literally divided between dojos like the whole season. It was kind of like, you know, we would work at there's rarely any crossover other than like, you know, the roller rink and stuff like that. Like there was rarely any crossover. So there was plenty of stuff that I didn't get to see how it finally came out until the show aired and I refuse to watch anything with a watermark, so I didn't see it before the day that it drops. Like I watched it live with everyone else and and there were moments like that. Where I was like what and I was thinking myself as a do I go back to my scripts right now and like see where this goes or do I just like wait and let it play out and I did I just like I waited and let it play out. So like there were aspects like that where I was a viewer. I was sitting there I was like, oh no my boyfriend's like, what do you mean imagine? Like, this is your show? That's so cool. That's it. So great that you're such a fan of it because it is a great show. So so anyway this this thing happens he sends a bit while at the same time. He's at the bar Jonny. He sees Graham. Oh my God. Well, I expect in that moment. I kind of was oh no boy kind of person to sense that. It's like okay. We they've been teasing this relationship between Johnny and Carmen for a while now and then all of a sudden she meets this guy how convenient the now she's unavailable. So I felt like something kind of what we were talking about last episode where Robbie gets the Medal of Honor back but doesn't give it to Sam kind of setting it up for you know, a wave and easy out. So that this relationship can I did love you? I didn't think it would be that fast. Though. Yeah, I didn't think that same episode starred end. I'm glad it was because like I said, I ship I ship the two of them Johnny and Miguel small German. Yeah. It's a great car show named Carmen Barney car to go back to Jarvis. But yeah, so I love I love when he first meets Graham. She's like, this is Graham. Isn't he fun? He's like head. She's like mumbles. Johnny's reactions to everything like I feel like Billy zabka is just so incredible and the way that he does this role. It's like he's taken this like absolute villain quote-unquote. Yeah, and now we see all these different dimensions in layers, but he still has these little things these moments. You're just like that's that kid who like who like Bully Daniel is like it like that. That's so like it's so honest and true to who he is and I feel like he's just he's no good at like covering up and faking it. He's no good at like pretending. He's like, I don't dance like I don't do stuff like he's just like everything is just so like honestly, Johnny and that's the one of those moments like I died laughing. How did this is a question cuz we've talked about the pieciness of this show the political correctness and how it always is like swinging the pendulum back a little bit with Johnny's character and obviously with Kris. How do you see that? And how does like your boyfriend see that and other people look at that are do you react negatively to that or do you see what they're doing? I see what they're doing. I mean for me personally like I believe that there are so many issues. That need to be addressed right now. There's so many things that we need to figure out and the way that we handle things especially Publican publicly and TV and stuff like that because that's that's where we get a lot of our opinions in a lot of our information. So I think those those the pendulum going the other way is so important but I feel like it's also fun in a way to like check yourself in like it's satirical and a little way to just be like that's like there are still people who just call everyone, you know. Yeah things I don't know. Like nowadays, you're like stay away from it or so taboo, and it's almost fun to kind of like mess around with that. I don't find it offensive at all because I know that it's all for the the spirit of staying true to the character and it would anyone really like Cobra Kai as much if we didn't have like the honesty of the characters being who they are like that is who Johnny is like he says awful things. He has these awful opinions like the moment when he like picks up the phone. He's like, yeah, we accept boys and girls and he's like what gender what and Yeah, I don't find that offensively but I'm like very much like an activist in many of those things like I believe in these in these causes but I don't think of that as offensive for me. I think of that is an honest take at the way that that generation looks at that those you know, those new things that are coming about these issues that we're addressing comedy is all about pushing boundaries and that's what you hear every stand-up comedian say that's why that's why some stand-ups come under Fire for being Politically Incorrect and others don't some say they don't care. I mean that's you if you want to write humor and you want to write humor Have the right Honest like an honest honesty is the funniest So speaking of Johnny and kind of trying to reform a little bit and who he's going to be. He does have to break the news here to the dojo that Kris is gone and they don't see it coming and it says since a crease is no longer be with us things aren't black and white. I really loved this moment. I think when he says because it's just that's just paint on a wall but you gotta you gotta in real life things are gray. You got to lend you learn to use your head. I thought that was great like he's I keep saying it but he feels like A fully-formed character Johnny does and and I'm so happy. I'm so happy to see what's happened with this character is I'm just I'm just totally bought in. So I do want to kind of know what this Eight Episodes into the show where each person is in terms of the character than the most invested in before I do really quickly. I want to remind everybody here. We are the ESP n of T v-- talk AfterBuzz TV provides an after show for just about every single show on television. So we've got like 12 different YouTube verticals each one one Services drama one Services Red Carpet Events, you know, we just did. The interviews with Mary this week at Paley Center. You can see those interviews up on the red carpet Channel we have that so like comment subscribe and of course leave a review on iTunes five stars preferably. It's how we continue to stay high in the standings and provide free content for you the listeners and the Watchers. Who are you guys rooting for right now eight episodes in who's the story that you're most the best? I think I'm full on team Johnny. Yeah, I think with the way that he kicked Kris out. He actually spoke it and to his students and said no we're changing. I think I'm fully team John. I'm gonna jump in and say I'm not surprisingly I totally agree. This is this was the episode where I was and I had really been on the Johnny training for a while, but I'm gone Miguel one point but this episode was just like I'm so hyped on Johnny Lawrence. I love what he says the students at the end of the episode. It really makes me want to see him win. So yeah, I'm Johnny even with the reference if you got to use your head. Yeah, it's great. I'm going to have to go with Sam and I think I said this to you at the carpet and at the end of season 1 when you stepped into your girl power, We could see that Arc was going to start happening. I'm so invested in your story with Miguel your story with Robbie and Tori. I'm loving every second of it. She ate it I would definitely agree with everyone you to basically saying Johnny. Yeah, I just love the moments. Like we finally get this this speech of how yes, this is how he wants to train the new Cobra Kai. This is the this is informing the they're not the bad guys as Sam kind. I pointed it out and I love that because it's been frustrating kind of the back and forth of you know, people thinking that they're terrible and them being like we just you know, we're strong and we have our issues but we're not the bad guys and I love that. I feel like now Johnny's it's really starting to come together that they're just their own unit and Mary you're watching this and you because you like you said you didn't watch until it. Are you good at episodes in where are you with a story? Like, who are you behind the most honestly in this episode specifically, I think I like team Amanda. Yeah, because I feel like she does. Much like a she it's like it's just like a reality check in this world of like warring dojos and all this drama about karate and all the stuff that like is fun to like watch and stuff like that. It's a reminder that in real life like theirs. So you have to focus on more things than just the thing that you're angry about the thing you're passionate about the thing that like you have to like, you know, bring it back to reality and back to like, it's you still have a family at home that needs you and you still have you know, a business and all the stuff that like Daniel is again at odds with what he did. With his ability to balance ironically but I don't know. I just love like Amanda's whole did she doesn't just give in it's not like another show where it's like, okay, well like will throw in the wife being angry for like two minutes, but then like, you know, she gets over it. Like I feel like Kourtney just like took Amanda and she's just so genuine and honest and she's like not being mean about it. She's not being off of the Daniel. She's just like I'm honestly really hurting you're gonna have to do more than get me sushi to make it right? Well the comparison of her and mr. Miyagi. Yeah, that is so I never I never heard that before. Yeah. So what it is, he says Compass she is his Compass. Yes. Yeah, she has to keep him in line. So alright guys that's going to wrap us up for episode 8 will be back soon with episode 9, there's some awesome stuff happening there. If you want to follow along with us, you can find mr. Michael. That's the only MC on Instagram and on Twitter. You can find me on Twitter at Tammy gouveia instead Tammy Guevara official if I me and Twitter and Instagram out, it's me Veronica underscore V. Remember working folks find you I might girls to get Miss Mary a Mauser and then have a Twitter as well, which is Mary Ann Bowser. Awesome. You guys can find me Ben David media will see you soon. Our founder Keven undergaro and me Maria Menounos would like to thank you for tuning in to AfterBuzz TV. Remember, we're not just the first for the biggest in the world and were the only destination for all your favorite TV shows whatever you crave. We've got it. 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COBRA KAI IS BACK! On this episode of Season 2, Episode 8, hosts Ben Bateman, Veronica Valencia, Tami Goveia, and Michael Clouse talk about: Johnny’s relationship with Miguel’s mother takes a fun turn, Johnny breaks with Kreese, Daniel’s relationship is on the rocks with Amanda,  Sam and Robby wanting to go public with their relationship and roller skating takes a turn for the worse. About the After Show: Loved THE KARATE KID film? Then you surely must be watching Cobra Kai on YouTube Premium. It’s a series set thirty four years after events of the 1984 All Valley Karate Tournament where a down-and-out Johnny Lawrence seeks redemption by reopening the infamous Cobra Kai dojo. On this COBRA KAI AFTER SHOW, our hosts review, recap and analyze the latest episodes and bring you inside scoops from cast and crew. ABOUT COBRA KAI: Thirty four years after events of the 1984 All Valley Karate Tournament, a down-and-out Johnny Lawrence seeks redemption by reopening the infamous Cobra Kai dojo, reigniting his rivalry with a now successful Daniel LaRusso. 