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The entire season Wes is coming for that UK Alliance and we got a bunch and love and flirtation going out of this house. So we'll be right back with our AfterBuzz TV recap and what Dan just a second you're tuned in to AfterBuzz TV the ESPN. Of tv top now, let them drop the ball there man. My name is Jenna bussiere. Thanks for tuning in. We got a full panel tonight. Dan is to my left. I'm here love the format this season. Yes challenge elimination. Every episode agree. Loving this. These are such exciting episodes. It was just boom boom boom action at your seat trauma here for it. Yeah. I hate the format. This is not like anything you guys just said, I totally disagree and I'm just kidding. It's awesome. How you guys doing? Good? I guess there was a lot of drama between relationships and Mr. Leroy and Cam. I like seeing that spark and Leroy we're gonna get into everything on tonight's agenda. We're talking the daily challenge, of course entire challenge was awesome. We're going to go into the weird romantic that occurred tonight A Lot dealing with naughty some of Leroy and can get all of our opinions on that the elimination Wes comb for the UK Alliance as well as bear and Devon stepping up during the elimination and just will talk more about bear and his Antics and how we're feeling about him. Okay, so I want to get some overall thoughts want to propose some questions to you guys after tonight's episode. I'm interested to hear your thoughts on bear. Okay took like right off the bat right off the bat. Um, I can see potentially how he's charming and that he's funny and he'd be a funny person if you knew him and he was your friend. I also think Georgia is so sweet. And so totally Buy Saying what he's selling and Wes is correct. He is he is lying manipulating probably. I don't know if he's using her or if he just does like to have many women. I think he's sucks that like as in terms of this. I think he's awful and he's trying to get air time. I think he's you know, just trying to do things for attention and I feel bad for Dave on for having to deal with him and I really my heart breaks for Georgia. Like that was awful hearing someone that you're into Not feeling the same way or whatever and then him lying about it. So I think he sucks but I can I can understand his charm to stomachs. I would like to know what he's like off camera and in real life because I feel like he is playing it up for the camera a bit. But I agree with you where I could see he's at personality where if you love him you love him when he's high. He's high and he's charming and he's on your side. But when he's obnoxious, he annoys you to the core and is so frustrating to be around. So I go back and forth. Same thing. I can see his charm but it's also Like your antics buddy like you are playing out that reality TV star character. What do you guys I said last week he was gonna make it up to us this week. He was TV gold this week last week. It was I didn't want to listen to it. I was very entertained by bear tonight very satisfied with him in this. Yeah. Yeah, you know my opinion still really hasn't changed. I feel like he's still putting up a show would but to, you know his credit this episode he did deliver and he was better as far as a performer so that I'll give him that you know, as far as the likable. I don't know. I'm not really into the guy. To be honest, but again, I do died. He did great this episode and you know, I'm curious to see what happens to him and Wes I really hope Wes just you know, I love what West said to him and I want to see it. So let's see what happens. I love Nani so much by the way that this is sort of what swayed me that there wasn't just awful. First of all, he did tone it down this week agreed. He wasn't as over the top and ridiculous where it took you out of the show. And nany I think is so great and so sincere and she said that he's Fun and nice and stuff. So I sort of trust that he has because she thinks that that's how I mean, I don't know him, but I'll know you're saying I think that's almost like a sociopathic personality trait that he might possess kind of like Paulie where you can turn on the charm when he walks but like you did to Georgia. He's flirting with Georgia, but he's going behind Jordan's back telling Donny. He is more attracted to her and then lying to George's face and George's believing it. So I think he has that charm that bad boy sort of feeling towards women that if a Girl Wants Wants to fall for that she will believe what he's saying because she wants to yeah, wait you guys are trying to tell me that there's a guy on this show that wants to date more than one girl. This is crazy any accent played up and the accents and get away with these lies by because Georgia is so ride or die. So she is the chick you want to your corner. She's a great partner to Hunter. She's a great girl to Bear the bear is doing her dirty, you know, and she'd Georgia seems Grace really? As but she is naive straight up. She's naive. She's been playing then she has that kind of heart and she's honest. She's so shy going to believe people. That's why I think Bears be something that's exactly lie to somebody in that manner. But anyway, we got a ton of stuff to get to tonight, but moreover all thought questions. I want to know if you guys hang off the bat think cam is playing Theo for politics or if there are feelings there. Does it hurt I feel I do feel she is playing for politics. And I also think she's trying to poke a Leroy Leroy little bit. I really do. I feel like she's you know, she plays like a genuine but I really think there's a little part of her that is also trying to get under your skin a little bit, you know, because enjoyable why is he trying to get under the person? I think you try to get in early where I skip because she is mad about all the things that he did to hers and relationship. I don't think she has feelings for Leroy at all. I don't think she's like trying to do. Oh Pam May disagree. Here we go. I think that's exactly why it's almost like spite you know, right? That's what I think too. I think she is genuinely hurt. I'd like to know and to hear and see what exactly happened when she was all in and he made it clear that he didn't want to be in a relationship because she said that we don't see or hear any of that and it seems like he's all in I think because she was hurt by him. Then she's definitely enjoying, you know, pushing his buttons. It's like you didn't want me then and not but some other guys paying attention to me here in to me. I don't think she's not right on anything that Cam said meaning I'm single. He made it clear. He didn't want to be a relationship. I'm free to flirt with whoever I want. And I do think she is into Theo but I don't she cam is not dumb cameras not you know going for a crush to ruin her game. I think there's some game involved. I'm like Cara who I still think has a little thing for Kyle. I think cam wants nothing to do with Leroy. Really? Yeah see my observation when Leroy lost in the elimination and Theo came over and rubbed cams back. It looked like Theo was giving her the look like, yes, we can finally be together now. And it's almost like cam lost her real love. She looked like she looked at the like oh, this isn't as fun anymore sell it without it being a game without it being a that's a conspiracy. If I ever heard one right there. That is what I have taught you. Well well, but I will say the way that the editing's of the confessionals went. I'm not doubting cam story. I believe she's honest when she says Leroy didn't Be in a relationship because why is she getting that from where I greet, you know their real life. We don't know the extent of this but I will say all of leros confessionals was about how much he loved Cam and he we never got to hear his side of what happened off camera. They never said like they chose us shout to see this was absolutely that's why I'm saying this is so interesting. So Leroy took to Twitter, which I'm so sure a lot of you guys have seen already and he said to MTV you guys are really playing me this season with the The bullshit edit, you know damn. Well, this isn't the real story and then cam tweeted know your worth and Leroy tweeted really Camp. You're going to sit here and play along with this, you know, this isn't what really happened. So, I mean, we have no idea of the challenge so much and I wish I could go back to the days before social media ruined everything because I'm sure there was manipulation and editing back then but we couldn't feel bad about it. But now it's like till we don't know what's going on, right? It wasn't called out like this. So now we can't see that and not go Leroy. Tell us your side. I mean leave early. We were look like a sad lost puppy tonight. So maybe he's also just a little butt hurt. He's like, I don't like how I was portrayed there. Let me just throw out that something else have but I will never tell you what it is because if you something else happened, why didnt you say? Yeah, but I don't think that that's not Leroy style man, you know what? I mean? Like maybe that could be maybe part of it of course, but I think I read there's always two sides to a story. You know, I Roy style is going home early on the chat with lately it has They're all cute and his Straw Hat just look at like he was a mess tonight. Grow out there trying to look back and see how for another couch. I thought it was so cute that he was shedding his feelings with the confessionals and kind of keeping an eye on her. How do you guys like their secret corner at the end of the table? What was that? No one can see in our secret Corner. We'll get more into this Saga later and how they handled it after going out, but I was just kind of right off the bat. But let's get into this episode. Let's just take it start to finish. We're going to get into the challenge elimination everything. So hang with us. Don't worry. We got some news and gossip and predictions coming at the end of the episode as well. So let's start it out the episode opens the UBC that the house is divided between the UK people and the American vets and then we also cut to bear and Nami flirting and I have a conspiracy theory about this. Yeah, the The Producers told West to go stand up there so he could hear it all like he's the only one listening. Into that box. Okay, you might be more wealth than I am though, because that's better that makes more sense. Well, tell me what conspiracy theory is. So we see Nani and bear sitting on this couch and bears flirting with her saying I'm more attracted to you than George. I wish I'd gone for you both and Wes creeps on the corner and he's saying this is perfect for me to split up the UK Alliance entirely and I'm thinking it's nany is a ploy and and as a part of myself game and this is all confused. That's a deep that Connie. Get this you are too kind of flirt with me and I'll be this little Pond bringing him in so that we can drop a bomb on Georgia. So stay woke y'all very creative there. I like I like where your head's at. I don't know if I'm buying and sometimes I'm out really quick side note it does anybody else find it very like coincidental that, you know card just happened to hear a conversation the very same way that Wes had Fashion, I'm sure so I'm not judging that right is that just an interaction is walls are just saying that is a good that's a good conspiracy that it's like how do the people that are relevant to this conversation and want to use the material just happened to be walking by. I mean, look what happens at the beginning of this episode. You see Leroy saying, hey, they're going after everyone. But me and then he goes home right there. I was like, well, that's some foreshadow. He was throwing her face. I wrote it down. Voice for the first time and I cannot believe that I didn't see that as foreshadowing to her losing until she got called into elimination. That's and then I said, oh no, that's that's that she was at the top of that was owed because I'm like, well, how did she leave I know what your voice sounds like now but to Gone Too Soon. Yeah, but what do you guys make of this na need bear flirtation in general? I mean to good-looking kids and bear likes. - of course I do. I'm just saying I mean easy married to Georgia they like they are hanging out like for two weeks so far. It's just I'm just saying I like Georgia a lot. I think he's you are heartless. Damn, right? I like her a lot too. And I feel like and I'm not I don't know. I feel like they're friends outside of the game that they know each other and have been from the origin Bear. Yeah. Okay because it seems like she's more loyal to him when Georgia found out during the tribunal conference that That bear had said he was more attracted to Nani. Georgia said it kind of that sounds like something he would say and it hurts that I got that news in front of a bunch of people but he's still my friend and I'm still gonna keep him safe. So it seemed as though she's ride-or-die loyal Beyond just that they're hooking. She's a here's my thing. What's Bear supposed to say to naughty to try to get with her? Hey, I like you a little less than I like, Georgia. He has to say you like some more like what are we doing here? He's with all that. With Georgia First Act was to get with someone else. He has to tell them he likes them more than his original girl. That's just how held an that's my point. I'm nuts. Also, I think it's not falling for it at all. She's like, hee-hee. Sure bear whatever like she's not Nani really as turbo says she is Mom. She's like no time for these little boys in this game. Yeah. Oh and bar we have to say said I want kisses from Nanny. Yeah. I want I want to cuddle with Georgia and kisses from Nanny that Language barrier. Yeah, we're just accent barriers really making that moment. Let's get into the challenge of the day dune buggy before we do who has the message for tonight. You guys here about AfterBuzz TV Pam. Well you guys before we move on to our next topic. We just wanted to say thank you for making us the ESPN of TV talk for us to continue to grow we can use your help. If you are on YouTube right now hit the thumbs-up button and subscribe. Scribe, if you're on iTunes, please give a 5 stars. But no matter where you are. Leave us a comment so you can get involved in the conversations and also shout-out to the live chat right now. We love hearing from you being a part of AfterBuzz means a lot to all of us here and we want to continue doing what we love, so don't forget to tell your friends and subscribe to our favorite shows and keep watching. Thank you. All right daily challenge. It was pretty incredible. I was pretty awesome everything about this David. And what did you think strategy but physicality was? Yes Macho Man personal trainer. That was badass. Honestly, I got was telling down say I literally I train like that literally you get plates and then you get the throat better up you put it through tight. And then you literally sit on your butt and you pull it and then I get it and I run across and pulled the other side. I literally do that similar type of thing with that. Oh, I know this is the challenge later on. This is the tire jump my bad. Sorry. It's These tire swing set up without its monster trucks and anybody trains like that. Yeah, but no that was intense. I mean, you know, like how said how the hell do you prepare for that? What's the strategy for that? You know what I mean like yeah, hang on Cara Maria and Pauly should open a gym. I mean, I know they want to open a gym now, they got two adults like what they want to do, but it should be challenged him where it's not it's a day where you come Duke you're working out, but you're Doing challenges. That's what they should do. Doctor lawyer. Jim's. Yeah exactly, but even more fun because like monster trucks and stuff Pam that's such a great idea that I wish that you didn't just say here because there's someone's going to take that was your idea but that's incredible. They are and I loved this challenge. This was my favorite to watch it was so cool and it started it was it was it was edgy. He literally like watching speed to see who would win and the people got better and better. So I didn't know if there was a strategy and people that I thought would do. Well like ninja Natalie didn't do well, which is surprising turbo Ashley didn't do as well as we thought it was I thought this was my favorite challenge so far of the season to watch I love this one too, because this was one of those things that you can't really train for like Kyle said, so you have these people like ninja Natalie who came too close to being prepared for this and she To make it to one tire and you have Pilots are not real and people who are physical like physical advocates for health and fitness and rational Traders and this is something that as many times at the gym. You can't really prepare for this jumping from moving tired weaving tire was awesome. Yeah and scary and the dust factor. And again Kyle I don't I'm not a fan but you got to give credit where credit's due showed up tonight it is Because it's like are playing fly under the radar. You're good at this stuff. How do you do that? Well, unless you're pretty strong. I'll say this MTV in the producers must have paid a lot of money to use that monster truck because they brought it back going. Oh, we should probably use this again. We use it as like a stunt thing before we're actually put it to work this time tires. This season is brought To Us by and I think the hardest part of the challenge honestly was the fact that you can't see because the does I honestly think that just going from tire tire it said they were going 30 kilometers. That's I did the math in my head called the Internet. It's only it's 18 miles per hour is that that's as fast that's that's fast enough. Honestly think if the dust wasn't a factor, I think I think it was a lot easier than you think but that didn't make sense so hard that's another yeah, you can't see that's an obstacle to it. And I think David come on you and I we could bring up those tires. Well, I'd love to give it a try. I think I'd be a challenge calls for so much Focus like turbo said somebody who we thought was going to be so good. He slipped up for one second. You can't see got distracted for one second. Exactly. So you have to use dryer all of your senses all of you ceiling and your body to be able to jump from tighter tire and you slip for one second and you're done. Yeah amazed with Wes good job. Let me finish it Hunter redeemed him Hunter last episode and to me this episode or this challenge seems like it would have endurance evolved as well because you have so much dust flying in your lungs. Yeah, and you're holding your body. Wait, you're holding up. The tires are trying to move quickly. So last week is whole defense was he has no endurance but this week you showed up I guess yeah deep himself. I don't know this challenge lasted a minute. The last week's episode child probably lasted 20 minutes. Yeah, so there's a big difference in endurance put in 1 minute and 20 minutes. So I think hundred this is made for Hunter because it just upper body strength each time. He's got any he's not doing it for an hour. He's doing it for a minute two minutes, maybe. Okay. That's all I'm saying for that and then Wes killed it and West is having a great season West Kyle and Hunter now, they're all having great. Polly Polly Polly is really killing ship right now. He looks like the damn ninja he was a ninja jumping from tighter Tire. Yeah at a spring in his step and his way out of it was and I hate it, but he is just that cocky athlete but he puts his money where his mouth is. I hate that he got up there and he took that selfie video and he was pounding his chest on the next phase of The Challenge on the next bad boy. They're not ready. He just he takes himself so seriously, and I know he's very Very good at this. He's very athletic and competes. He puts his money where his mouth is, but that just arcs me everytime like, oh, you're so cocky and annoying I agree and now call him a vet after two seasons or something. But now there's not a lot of the big guys the real vets to like put him in his place either. So he is a vet to these rookies and it's like he's going to make a lot of noise and no one's gonna stop him right now, you know the high-five to West to being one of like the final vets. Is still holding it down, you know, I mean because as we've seen all the veteran going away early, it's crazy. You know, it's weird. So yeah, I 5 West talk about naughty to crushing it. She's been performing. Yeah. Well, I think she always has in all of her Seasons that she's competed and she just one of those people again that's not really like a physical trainer or a CrossFit person like an Emily or a cars doesn't really advocate for Fitness as much as the other competitors, but she always brings it and she always performs really. Well. Yep, and she's got kind of like it's a smaller frame so she always a oppresses me. She's really good. Yeah. She look at unsuspectingly Great competitor. Hmm anything else Leroy kind of disappointed me. He only got three. Yeah, she leaves and I looked at each other. Amanda getting zero. That's okay right now Josh is an awful get better horrible shouldn't even be here. You really shouldn't even be here. He's terrible you go. No matter the tribunal. Why? Yes. Well, what's your problem guys? Why you put me in here? Dude? You're just a throwaway blow your awful. Like I don't care if you're mad at us because you're never gonna get us. I was you're not good enough to do it because they you see him fail miserably at the challenge and then he has an inner tube. Well, I'm waiting here. This is ridiculous. I'm over it. It's like dude, you can't eat because you're not supposed to be here than to your Herbal way you can treat us. So why not throw you in and get you mad at us? That's all it is. My favorite was he dropped the light? I'm so over Pro and our thing. The entire time Josh is on screen always yell. The screen is you shouldn't even better you two yelling out loud at the same time. It's just like, yep. Yeah expect it, but it still is great to see and it's something I want to watch 10 out of 10 times every week for you guys to follow the tire for ya and never gets any less funny D and You surprised me too that they kind of flaked on this challenge, but it's hard people don't know what they're getting into with this. What did he get it down second. He's tired count. I believe she got to okay, Maddie got one. Okay. Oh man. That was Kyle. Kyle got them into that. Wow. Yeah the girls the champ. I believe she had the most for what a car get karma doesn't have a conspiracy corner on Kyle to That hey conspiracy. Kyle's actually really excited. Yes. Kyle just pretends to be a dipshit. He had a great season here take it away because he was the first guy we saw make it all the way and I was like hi. All yeah, it's like Caiman bear. We've said this cock I'll actually can't compete we've seen a compete in Prior Seasons, but he's just such a clown that you don't associate him with being a serious riots like a friend. I had in high school who would run a five-minute mile after smoking a cigarette just write something people have so much energy that you don't realize that they're competing really well like bear tonight in the elimination. He's like flan is arms around. He's jumping up and down and it's like how is this guy doing so well because he has that much excess energy like he's like zoned into just the The task at hand, although him. Well let not to jump ahead. But him in leaver were kind of neck and neck. Yeah, I do think that came down to Kimberly girls. Yeah. Yeah. Alright, so we got our tribunal, it's West Indian first Hunter and Georgia and then it comes down to either Kyle and Mady and Cara and Theo but the Cliffhanger shows us that Kyla Maddie they win by 19 seconds. Okay, the three teams that won are the three teams that I want to see in the final this year crazy. Those are my three teams and they all won tonight. Laughter, so we got into the tribunal and the voting Kyle Shocker the center you want to go Polly and Natalie Wesson, dear leaning towards bear because Wes wants to break up the UK lions and bears the easiest Target. Why not go for the loudest mouth and the house Georgia will not go for bear and Hunter doesn't want to go for Polly and Natalie. He wants to go for Josh and Amanda and he's really fighting hard about not going for Polly and Natalie. Meanwhile, Georgia and Kyle are saying you should go Polly and Natalie. What were your thoughts on Hunter? My thought was that Kyle and Pauly are like best buds in that place. They were actually laughing about it. Right? I don't really think they're mad at each other. I think they just having a good time. I think they like that they get to be Rivals because it gives them both something to get Motors. It's a motivated more screen time because the fighting you know, I did I think I think it's more it comes down to that old, you know back in school and you have like two guys that butt heads and then they end up fighting beat each other up and then become friends after I'm still seems like is that by better? That I really do before we continue one of the ways we keep all these shows for you free is by our amazing sponsors. And today Spotify is one of our sponsors on Spotify. You can listen to all of your favorite artists and podcasts in one place for free. You don't even need a premium account Spotify as a huge catalogue of podcasts on every topic including the one you're listening to right now on Spotify. You can follow your favorite podcast. 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And there you go, right we don't need you anymore for that. I think so so much. I'm so glad we agree disagree. I love that. They don't really like Cara neither of them. All right, let's go to this wesen bear confrontation in the tribunal. My favorite thing is west or sorry. They're just freaking out gimmicky as anything. He's cannot handle his emotions and Wes just standing there completely facing him by not giving him any emotions or any any time of day. Yeah, and I always loved and the tribunal because she's the only rookie that we've seen interact and have a lot of not the only gym but ninja okay. No, but I'm saying it was getting in it with bear tonight wasn't she like she was tonight? I like I think she was only rookie and it's revealed that she is a rookie that brings personality to the tribunal when she's in it and doesn't take smack. I'll say this D was on a pedestal tonight and she look gorgeous. So cute. Great eyes. Great features it overall. You guys are on the road again this episode. We haven't seen that for a while. They get to go out to the club. Oh, yeah, finally. Yes. He got to go out. Um Hunter an Ami what ye I like that. I don't see anything. Yeah, I again, I mean, I love Nani and she's say like, I agree that Hunter seems to be a very sincere and good person. I might not always agree with his stances, but he seems to be Sincere and genuine and nice in his heart if again, I might not always I go back and forth with him. I think he's a guy. True to himself guy and I think that that is an attractive quality. Tuna, honey, and I like it. I'm here for it. I didn't know that I would want them to be together and any world and I was like, yes, I need to see this happen. So I like it. Yeah, I was shocked at first and I like did a double take to no one in the room as like, how is this not Ian Hunter what and then I remember I was she was with Cohutta for a hot minute. She likes boys. How are you today? Are they now? So that romance is going to be Brewing boys. Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, that's my favorite part. No just kidding. Random is random. I mean kudos to you hunted right on man. Do you think I like Hunter Hunter is a good guy from what it seems. So yeah, let's see what happens. This is just another girl like nany saying how nice Hunter is which makes me more team Hunter when I think back about Hunter versus Ashley and all that BS that went down is that he's a nice guy in the fact that he doesn't get along with Ashley. I'm pretty sure Ashley is very evil, then that's all I'm saying. Thanks. All right. So then we see Kim and Theo it's going down. So this is getting into the meat of this Cam and Theo Saga or sorry and Leroy. So Leroy goes over to camp and says I'm in love with you. He says I'm still very much in love with you. I want to go back to how it was in the beginning but two cams credit as much as I love Leroy and I think I'm more tame Leroy in this situation because I do think cameras kind of like playing a little bit for the game. She you know, she has a very valid point that he Had already said to her I don't want to be in a relationship. So she's not really wrong for moving on and hooking up with Theo. I just I'm not sure that it's genuine know every everything is valid. You know, I completely get were cams coming from and it's completely okay what she's doing but at the same time I like I agree with you. I feel like it's a little bit to get at Leroy, you know, it's not fully genuine and that's kind of my my grandpa the whole thing and I did feel bad for Leroy. He did look like a lost little puppy the until you're just hurting watching the whole thing and then to like have them make out in front of him. It's like You know I dagger in the heart. So you think that cam shouldn't have took taken it to that step and made out and frog I think if she truly cares about him and it wasn't to hurt him in any way I think out of respect. She shouldn't have done that in front of him. You know, I mean again like she's single she's free to do if she wants I totally get that you're right, but if you care about Leroy as much as you say and there's that respect there, I think she shouldn't have done that. That's true respect your past relationship and feelings. What do you think about the way liro reacted in the fact that he went over to cam not only the club and he brought it back to the house and he he escalated this more at the house. It's kind of like man. Just you know, like you gotta let it go man. You know, thanks. I mean at least in this situation you don't mean right now. I mean if you know, maybe when you guys get back home hash it out figure it out. Do your thing on your own time? No cameras. No BS, you know, I mean the real stuff just obviously they're drinking there's already the scenes going on. It's just I don't think it's the right time. Just kind of let you know leave it alone right now Pam it sound like you have I liked Nani's hot take that cam was doing this for moving ahead in the game. I Think of that beforehand and I don't know if it's true or not. It's really hard to speak to camera without knowing what went down if they were together and everything's fine. And he hooked up with someone else and said he wanted to be a no but I like we don't know the circumstances for which under which he said, I don't want to be in a relationship meaning that he wasn't into it or they just were I don't know what it is. What do you think about him kind of going up to the table and then bring it back to the house? I think at the club was fair. And reasonable and it got I don't know what the conversation was. He said I loved you. She said I want to be friends and cordial so I don't know if what that's a response to if someone told me they loved me. I want to be friends and cordial seems like a strange respond. So I don't know it seems disjointed especially knowing what we know from Leroy. I thought him talking about it again. He's clearly hurt. I don't think it was inappropriate escalation, but I think when cam gets back into a Corner she pakal's up because she he seemed calm and she was like, I don't want to touch you. It's like okay. Wait, what? Why don't you won't get what I want to touch him. So I don't know if the whole thing just is kind of a mystery to me. I think she's well within her rights to do whatever she wants. But yeah, it's obviously going to hurt someone's feelings and I can't help but think that she's very aware of that and very it was to say his piece, you know, he needs to tell her how he feels and get it off his chest. So he's doesn't really act like that a lot. He's very level-headed and you could tell that he didn't want to take it to a certain level with her. But when you're talking and emotions get involved, sometimes it just gets brought that level of you do it just is like that organically but I think he really just needs to get off his chest. Yeah, let her know how he felt so I don't think he's wrong for saying it but if it if you were to stay and not leave after elimination, which is not get to and we're to continue happening for weeks then then it would probably be a problem but it's just one night and had to get it off his chest. I don't think he's on the wrong for approaching I give him credit to her. Even putting himself out there like that because that's hard to do especially with camera special for everybody. So she has many, you know what I mean to do that and then to get shot down rejected and then to try again I give him credit for that, you know, because that that takes a lot of Courage, you know, I mean, she's just she's just not into him guys. She's been over. Yeah, that's it. It's nothing more than that. You just don't agree with that. I agree with your cake when he left her face was like, yeah, right exactly. Not as enjoyable when he's not there to get the job. She's like do you like someone The cheese I'm so bad that a former boyfriend / friend. Now lost what that's it sedate him or not. She wants him around seeing her name is Kelly the Cara and Kyle thing, you know, I mean in a sense like they hate each other, but they still want each other round. Yeah. All right. Well, it's elimination tag. Okay, so we go through the voting and I had wish so badly that Georgia had turned and voted Baron. I thought she's gonna do what I like. Oh, it's on the tip of her tongue, but she didn't but her partner did. So they end up getting the most votes even though Hunter Georgia put up Josh and Amanda as kind of like a red herring has a burned vote. So Josh and Amanda skate through again and bare and Dave ongoing and I actually thought Dan said, oh they can pick anybody who they anybody they want to go against it. I actually thought the decision was kind of hard because everybody that their friends within the game and aligned within the game sucks because they can't pick an easy right because they're friends with the easy teams right friends with Josh and Amanda and Davon didn't want to say Leroy's name. Not that I think Leroy is bad but him and she leave is a partnership safe to say they're one of the weakest teams in the challenge or they pick a good team like Cara and Theo or Ashley and Camp. So for me, I thought it was time for them to pick a team to go against. I think they made the right. Oh, no. I wish I think Josh and Amanda Josh both of those people are friends with Dave on but I feel like I wish they'd pick them just because I don't like them have to pick somebody you gotta save your own ass. So you Josh and Amanda where the Troy Josh would have gassed out after to pulverize. I mean, you could've been done. Yeah, I mean, I wish that we saw them their home instead of Leroy and it was nice to meet Shailene tonight. We learned her name tonight. I think this is the type of elimination of does really show Muscle your physical endurance your muscle fatigue. Would you guys think your desire to win? This was a great elimination and hard to watch because it was neck and neck for for all of bears blustering. It's not like he's smoked Leroy or anything and even the girls were to give shaylene. We only knew you for but a moment. They were like two bags behind but it was a tough elimination. It came down to those. Do they show that Leroy did lose to bear though in the integrity and like didn't bear finish right before him lay people think it doesn't count as a loss because there are teams. I understand. I'm just saying if it was just the boys boys. But that being said it's not just bear and Leroy one-on-one. It's the time it takes Leroy to get his smash true because she leaned is anchoring him. It's very true take Shaylee longer than Dave on there for Leroy is always behind bear because it's Davon is going Friday at the very end. Like that's when you find out who's going to really win is like the starts one thing but when it comes down to those last few bags, it's like that's when you see who has hardened who's going to pull it out and you can tell shaylene was gassing out. She was kind of given up a little bit. You know, I mean, I don't know if it's right to say giving up but you can tell she was worn out. Yes, they said and there's 40 bags. So I put together a montage be a calculator. So let's say that the let's say it was just under 3 K so maybe like 2,800 pounds that is 70 70 pounds per bag priority of them. Whoa. Yeah, you're not you're not pulling on Wheels. You're pulling it through sand. And yeah, that's going to be hard. This is this my favorite elimination of the whole season. They might be even if you put all the challenges next to all the eliminations. I'm picking this as my favorite overall. It's the Pure Heart pure endurance pure test your strength test what you have inside. These are the ones I like. Yeah. Absolutely. I agree feed and I think it's awesome. And as I was saying way earlier, yeah, we were we going to do this. Yeah. No joke, I get plates and then I get the battle ropes. I'd put the Rope through it one in and I'm on the other and I literally sit down just like that and I like pull it across get it run across bullet that I mean, I literally trained that way so this watching it like I know how that will maybe not sandbag specifically, but yeah, that's a lot. It wears you out, you know, then to do that many times that many bags just like that is a lot of upper body strength a lot of endurance like you're going to feel it. So what it comes down to the end and it's Leroy and Shailene fighting for their lives against just Avon. Well, actually It's just shaylene fighting against Dave on do you then try to give to the lien only one bag at a time? He was she was thinking less bags or do you give her too? Because she asked to make up so much ground, but she'll do it slower that's arms kind of like that's what my strategy comes in where you don't know what to do one bag to make it quicker but doesn't matter if it's quicker if she's going to be so many bags behind it looked like she was consistently taking less bags than okay Davon at least that they showed for in the cuts that they showed. Yeah, I do it that. All right Dave on and bear the live to need to see another day Bears a crazy fool. He's running around that pain. He's making his Mark. He sell everybody's coming for them West calls him out. It's incredible. Love Wes Wes. I love it. See hopefully West hopefully this is gonna be like the pairing at the end like the the elimination the final whatever day I got to see a wesen bear 101. So this is where I think bear becomes back to your earlier. Questions. I had to formulate this becomes unlikable and kind of stupid is he was blustering and calling Wes a liar when it he indeed was the liar and you know admitted like oh when in doubt Y which is funny Ha-Ha. Yeah, but then he came out and said like you're being you saying that as mean to Georgia and it's a provable thing like they just need to ask nany and she can very much say yeah. He did say that to me. It's not just west. Lying there was someone else involved and I'm excited to see that because I do want them to take bear down and I feel like him not only lying to her but then further manipulating her makes him not cool. All right, so we got some news and gossip. Yeah. Okay that's quick few ones first. There were Union is going to be in London this year pretty cool. That is really cool. I mean, there's so many UK people that make sense. Maybe just easier to go there. Sorry from the bottom now, we're here. Yeah, and I feel like an MTV at I don't know they Logistics to this but somehow you can you can win a ticket to go. So if you want to go drink it out, I know how but we're using London. That's pretty rad. Also, there were some romances that would didn't see on this season, which I saw some there's got to be a rat in production or somewhere because there's pictures and videos of this if you go on like a challenge to Instagram, there's a picture. Yeah, no challenge t91 or challenge. 2018 something of that nature where you see Zahida and Ashley hugging each other and pool showed it on the original previews. I told you they did they showed in the original previews for the entire season, but then they just never showed it in the season. Okay, because that's how you knew he wasn't going home. That's correct. Got it. And then there was a whole thing with Zahida. No. Sorry. I just said that Hunter and Julia Hunter and Julius another there was a that's and that's also on challenge MTV the Instagram there. Can watch their little thing the challenge that the Instagram shows like never before scenes from past episodes. So you can kind of just find out other stuff that happens. Okay, so it's very I why have I follow him? It's easy these pops right up all time. Those are some romance as we did in C and then a little bit more to some heavier stuff on the tape incident where bananas Kyle and Theo duct tapes Amanda's face and she had to pull it out. She lost some hair a lot more escalated in that in the last two weeks. So apparently empty is trying to keep this under wraps and they don't want any of the cast members to talk about it Ashley tweeted about this Shane tweeted about this. There was an article on the Ashley that said fans are petitioning for this footage to be released because it's an assault and Amanda should be able to have this release so that everybody can see you know, what happened to her. And so Shane tweeted out saying I've gone on private from his Twitter so that all challenge fans know that certain entities at a certain television Studio. Sending threatening letters to cast telling them they will be sued if they discuss Amanda's assault and covered up to man the footage only you can demand the footage. So apparently MCD is sending letters to cast members asking them about to say it and legally threatening them. So Amanda also tweeted out I appreciate all the support and I know I haven't really spoken anything but I don't want this blown up into something. It's not I know their intentions were never to hurt me. I just went too far happens to be the it happens to the best of us. They've apologized I moved on that was earlier, but then after I guess LT was sending letters around she sent out another tweet saying PSA. I'm disgusted with MTV and the way I've been treated about all of this, especially when I've been so common understanding they want to silence me with legal threats, but go on the media and li la laughter their Union my career with MDB is over. I don't neither shit. I promise you so MTV stop calling me for the next season because the answer is no give my spot to some desperate kiss or sorry get my spot to some desperate ass-kisser instead. Yeah. I'm In conspiracy Corner, they need to protect bananas. I mean bananas was behind it. They it's that's their big money maker. Maybe if it comes out they're going to be they can't use bananas anymore. And he's on every goddamn season. Go ahead if she's gonna go on and say, That he's received a letter I would like I'm not. I would like to see this letter because this is happened with things on Bachelor things before and they're like look what I've got like, they're really threatening you not to talk about it. Shane wasn't there either Amanda was that was really cool her initial thing. She seemed to get it if it was a horrible as I don't know. That's the thing. I don't know what breaches and preaches feminism pro-woman all this up show us the damn tape then so that we can stop talking about it for ourselves afraid to show us that With his garbage and but I don't know Shane I think is a crazy drama queen. I'm sorry Stan wanted to command the photo. He's being threatened. It's like you weren't there Shane. What do you well, he's a nub TV personality. He's friends with my brother illegally threatened to keep his mouth. Shut is what he's saying, but I understand demand see the footage I get that. I'm all for it. But it's also the same thing where you don't need to see the footage to know that it happens. Like it still happened and I don't know what how you proceed after something like that happens as a TV network as a fan. Bass but it shouldn't just be seeing the footage that makes well, yes all or the incident. Unfortunately the instances, you know what I mean like this there's you know her side their side and the truth. We have it on camera. Let us, you know, we have we haven't heard it from her she from that it sounds to me. We know bananas. We know the kind of I don't I don't know because I haven't seen it. That's what the thing is the fact that she was saying look it started as good fun. I'm over it. I don't think Amanda so just like them. I think if she felt assaulted she would fight that's my the closest to the horse's mouth is Amanda. There is the information for now. We'll see if this continues to advance we are out of time so we gotta wrap up. Let's see you next time for episode 7. Thank you guys so much for joining us. My name is Jenna bussiere tweet me this gossip and stuff. This was from a tweet from a fan at Jenna underscore bussiere. Let's wrap it up y'all. Yeah the Dan lingered on Instagram add me or something. Oh, I'm Pamela gross job. And if you guys have more direct information about this, let us know I'm dying to know so as I was David Christopher find man is granted to fuck her Christopher Twitter DPR Christopher. Thank you guys so much for hanging out with us again tonight. It's been fun guys catch us. Next time. Have a good night. Our founder Keven undergaro Maria Menounos would like to thank you for tuning in to AfterBuzz TV. Remember, we're not just the first were the biggest in the world. And we're the only destination for all your favorite TV shows whatever you crave. We've got it. So go to AfterBuzz tv.com and check out our lineup Buzz see you later. Use express herein are those of the host only do not necessarily reflect the views of AfterBuzz TV or its owners are principles.
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