also Robert, perhaps an on instance of the pot calling the kettle black, but I find it hard to follow your post. i'm guessing you think fast and get ahead of yourself when posting......****   I do believe the old city hall  of springfield was used longer than 2 years.  I also recollect it had structural problems and had to be abandoned. (from memory - didn't google)***people living downtown springfield...city failed.  what?  I see a good spot for a super market - I believe it is called a "black hole" in marketing.  also main street, that had such a bad rep,  is being reformed...the theater, new storefronts...***shenanigans in springfield's inner political machine seems minimal, especially compared to Eugene.**right now glenwood is a blight - it will not be very soon.   careful development of that riverside can make it a real gem like san Antonio's canal.  I think getting st paul's involved , even as esteemed consultant, is a great idea as they are good at erecting low income housing.