Comment: so hiblerphil... when did you're people get here?  care to say from where? some of my ancestors came from ireland to escape starving. they were welcomed with open arms.  we needed those "dirty Irish" to do our crud jobs.  another group came from germany in the late 1880's - apparently they got on the wrong side of someone in prussia and fleeing seemed like a good choice. they were welcomed with open arms - they had good strong backs and worked that rocky farmland like only a "dumb german peasant" could. so how about you?