Comment: Lies and fraud, and Comrade Carl never spent one minute in jail. Ah, but of course, these miscreants don't go to jail because it is not the ANC way. Ten yeas ago, even twenty - but only when he has been punished as the law provides for, will he be forgiven. Dr Dlamini - Zuma be wary of who you mix with although you have an ex  husband that I wouldn't be seen dead with ! The photo of Carl reminds me somewhat of Eugene Terrablanche by the way!