then about the third call they said we want to know we're going to refund the contracts and the money for these kids because nobody's going to coach and think that's terrible so at that point you know you come forward well that started about a fifteen year career of coaching uh coaching administering programs and my wife and i in addition to coaching i think when we finally finished up we were managing
After that, my wife and I spent 15 years coaching and administering programs.