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Re: New Sequences Window Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 10:54:46 -0500 From: Chris Garrigues <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> | I can't reproduce this error. For me it is very repeatable... (like every time, without fail). This is the debug log of the pick happening ... 18:19:03 Pick_It {exec pick +inbox -list -lbrace -lbrace -subject ftp -rbrace -rbrace} {4852-4852 -sequence mercury} 18:19:03 exec pick +inbox -list -lbrace -lbrace -subject ftp -rbrace -rbrace 4852-4852 -sequence mercury 18:19:04 Ftoc_PickMsgs {{1 hit}} 18:19:04 Marking 1 hits 18:19:04 tkerror: syntax error in expression "int ... Note, if I run the pick command by hand ... delta$ pick +inbox -list -lbrace -lbrace -subject ftp -rbrace -rbrace 4852-4852 -sequence mercury 1 hit That's where the "1 hit" comes from (obviously). The version of nmh I'm using is ... delta$ pick -version pick -- nmh-1.0.4 [compiled on fuchsia.cs.mu.OZ.AU at Sun Mar 17 14:55:56 ICT 2002] And the relevant part of my .mh_profile ... delta$ mhparam pick -seq sel -list Since the pick command works, the sequence (actually, both of them, the one that's explicit on the command line, from the search popup, and the one that comes from .mh_profile) do get created. kre ps: this is still using the version of the code form a day ago, I haven't been able to reach the cvs repository today (local routing issue I think). _______________________________________________ Exmh-workers mailing list [email protected] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/exmh-workers
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[zzzzteana] RE: Alexander Martin A posted: Tassos Papadopoulos, the Greek sculptor behind the plan, judged that the limestone of Mount Kerdylio, 70 miles east of Salonika and not far from the Mount Athos monastic community, was ideal for the patriotic sculpture. As well as Alexander's granite features, 240 ft high and 170 ft wide, a museum, a restored amphitheatre and car park for admiring crowds are planned --------------------- So is this mountain limestone or granite? If it's limestone, it'll weather pretty fast. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> 4 DVDs Free +s&p Join Now http://us.click.yahoo.com/pt6YBB/NXiEAA/mG3HAA/7gSolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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[zzzzteana] Moscow bomber Man Threatens Explosion In Moscow Thursday August 22, 2002 1:40 PM MOSCOW (AP) - Security officers on Thursday seized an unidentified man who said he was armed with explosives and threatened to blow up his truck in front of Russia's Federal Security Services headquarters in Moscow, NTV television reported. The officers seized an automatic rifle the man was carrying, then the man got out of the truck and was taken into custody, NTV said. No other details were immediately available. The man had demanded talks with high government officials, the Interfax and ITAR-Tass news agencies said. Ekho Moskvy radio reported that he wanted to talk with Russian President Vladimir Putin. Police and security forces rushed to the Security Service building, within blocks of the Kremlin, Red Square and the Bolshoi Ballet, and surrounded the man, who claimed to have one and a half tons of explosives, the news agencies said. Negotiations continued for about one and a half hours outside the building, ITAR-Tass and Interfax reported, citing witnesses. The man later drove away from the building, under police escort, and drove to a street near Moscow's Olympic Penta Hotel, where authorities held further negotiations with him, the Moscow police press service said. The move appeared to be an attempt by security services to get him to a more secure location. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> 4 DVDs Free +s&p Join Now http://us.click.yahoo.com/pt6YBB/NXiEAA/mG3HAA/7gSolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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[IRR] Klez: The Virus That Won't Die Klez: The Virus That Won't Die Already the most prolific virus ever, Klez continues to wreak havoc. Andrew Brandt >>From the September 2002 issue of PC World magazine Posted Thursday, August 01, 2002 The Klez worm is approaching its seventh month of wriggling across the Web, making it one of the most persistent viruses ever. And experts warn that it may be a harbinger of new viruses that use a combination of pernicious approaches to go from PC to PC. Antivirus software makers Symantec and McAfee both report more than 2000 new infections daily, with no sign of letup at press time. The British security firm MessageLabs estimates that 1 in every 300 e-mail messages holds a variation of the Klez virus, and says that Klez has already surpassed last summer's SirCam as the most prolific virus ever. And some newer Klez variants aren't merely nuisances--they can carry other viruses in them that corrupt your data. ... http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,103259,00.asp _______________________________________________ Irregulars mailing list [email protected] http://tb.tf/mailman/listinfo/irregulars
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Re: [zzzzteana] Nothing like mama used to make > in adding cream to spaghetti carbonara, which has the same effect on pasta as > making a pizza a deep-pie; I just had to jump in here as Carbonara is one of my favourites to make and ask what the hell are you supposed to use instead of cream? I've never seen a recipe that hasn't used this. Personally I use low fat creme fraiche because it works quite nicely but the only time I've seen an supposedly authentic recipe for carbonara it was identical to mine (cream, eggs and lots of fresh parmesan) except for the creme fraiche. Stew -- Stewart Smith Scottish Microelectronics Centre, University of Edinburgh. http://www.ee.ed.ac.uk/~sxs/ ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> 4 DVDs Free +s&p Join Now http://us.click.yahoo.com/pt6YBB/NXiEAA/mG3HAA/7gSolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Re: [zzzzteana] Nothing like mama used to make > I just had to jump in here as Carbonara is one of my favourites to make and > ask > what the hell are you supposed to use instead of cream? Isn't it just basically a mixture of beaten egg and bacon (or pancetta, really)? You mix in the raw egg to the cooked pasta and the heat of the pasta cooks the egg. That's my understanding. Martin ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> 4 DVDs Free +s&p Join Now http://us.click.yahoo.com/pt6YBB/NXiEAA/mG3HAA/7gSolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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[zzzzteana] Playboy wants to go out with a bang The Scotsman - 22 August 2002 Playboy wants to go out with a bang AN AGEING Berlin playboy has come up with an unusual offer to lure women into his bed - by promising the last woman he sleeps with an inheritance of 250,000 (�160,000). Rolf Eden, 72, a Berlin disco owner famous for his countless sex partners, said he could imagine no better way to die than in the arms of an attractive young woman - preferably under 30. "I put it all in my last will and testament - the last woman who sleeps with me gets all the money," Mr Eden told Bild newspaper. "I want to pass away in the most beautiful moment of my life. First a lot of fun with a beautiful woman, then wild sex, a final orgasm - and it will all end with a heart attack and then I�m gone." Mr Eden, who is selling his nightclub this year, said applications should be sent in quickly because of his age. "It could end very soon," he said. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> 4 DVDs Free +s&p Join Now http://us.click.yahoo.com/pt6YBB/NXiEAA/mG3HAA/7gSolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Re: [zzzzteana] Nothing like mama used to make Martin Adamson wrote: > > Isn't it just basically a mixture of beaten egg and bacon (or pancetta, > really)? You mix in the raw egg to the cooked pasta and the heat of the pasta > cooks the egg. That's my understanding. > You're probably right, mine's just the same but with the cream added to the eggs. I guess I should try it without. Actually looking on the internet for a recipe I found this one from possibly one of the scariest people I've ever seen, and he's a US Congressman: <http://www.virtualcities.com/ons/me/gov/megvjb1.htm> That's one of the worst non-smiles ever. Stew ps. Apologies if any of the list's Maine residents voted for this man, you won't do it again once you've seen this pic. -- Stewart Smith Scottish Microelectronics Centre, University of Edinburgh. http://www.ee.ed.ac.uk/~sxs/ ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> 4 DVDs Free +s&p Join Now http://us.click.yahoo.com/pt6YBB/NXiEAA/mG3HAA/7gSolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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[zzzzteana] Meaningful sentences The Scotsman Thu 22 Aug 2002 Meaningful sentences Tracey Lawson If you ever wanted to look like "one of the most dangerous inmates in prison history", as one judge described Charles Bronson, now�s your chance. Bronson - the serial hostage taker, not the movie star - has written a health and fitness guide in which he shares some of the secrets behind his legendary muscle power. Solitary Fitness - a title which bears testament to the fact that Bronson, 48, has spent 24 of his 28 prison years in solitary confinement - explains how he has turned himself into a lean, mean, fitness machine while living 23 hours a day in a space just 12 feet by eight feet, on a diet of scrubs grub and at virtually no cost. The book is aimed at those who want to get fabulously fit without spending a fortune on gym memberships, protein supplements or designer trainers, and starts with a fierce attack on some of the expensive myths churned out by the exercise industry. "I pick up a fitness mag, I start to laugh and I wipe my arse with it," is the opening paragraph penned by Bronson. "It�s a joke and a big con and they call me a criminal!" You can�t help feeling he has a point. This is not the first book that Bronson has written from behind bars, having already published Birdman Opens His Mind, which features drawings and poems created by Bronson while in prison. And he is not the first prisoner to discover creative expression while residing at Her Majesty�s pleasure. Jimmy Boyle, the Scots sculptor and novelist, discovered his artistic talents when he was sent to Barlinnie Prison�s famous special unit, which aimed to help inmates put their violent pasts behind them by teaching them how to express their emotions artistically. Boyle was sentenced to life for the murder of "Babs" Rooney in 1967. Once released, he moved to Edinburgh where he has become a respected artist. His first novel, Hero of the Underworld, was published in 1999 and his autobiography, A Sense of Freedom, was made into an award-winning film. Hugh Collins was jailed for life in 1977 for the murder of William Mooney in Glasgow, and in his first year in Barlinnie prison stabbed three prison officers, earning him an extra seven-year sentence. But, after being transferred to the same unit that Boyle attended, he learned to sculpt and developed an interest in art. He later published Autobiography of a Murderer, a frank account of Glasgow�s criminal culture in the 1960s, which received critical praise. And Lord Archer doesn�t seem to have had trouble continuing to write the books that have made him millions while in jail. He recently signed a three-book deal with Macmillan publishers worth a reported �10 million, and is no doubt scribbling away as we speak. So why is it that men like Collins, Bronson and Boyle, who can be so destructive towards society on the outside, can become so creative once stuck on the inside? Steve Richards, Bronson�s publisher, has published many books about criminal figures and believes the roots of this phenomenon are both pragmatic and profound. He says: "Prison is sometimes the first time some criminals will ever have known a stable environment, and this can be the first time they have the chance to focus on their creative skills. "It may also be the first time that they have really had the chance of an education, if their early years have been hard. It could be the first time anyone has offered them the chance to explore their creative talents." However, Richards believes the reasons are also deeper than that. He says: "Once they are behind bars, the cold light of day hits them, and they examine the very essence of who they are. "They ask themselves, am I a man who wants to be remembered for violence? Or am I a man who can contribute to society, who can be remembered for something good?" Bronson - who was born Michael Gordon Peterson, but changed his name to that of the Hollywood star of the Death Wish films - has, so far, been remembered mainly for things bad. He was originally jailed for seven years for armed robbery in 1974, and has had a series of sentences added to his original term over the years as a result of attacking people in prison. In 2000 he was jailed for life after being convicted of holding a teacher hostage for nearly two days during a jail siege. Standing five feet ten and a half inches tall and weighing 210lbs, he is renowned for his strength. He has bent metal cell doors with his bare hands and does up to 3,000 - yes, 3,000 - press-ups a day. As he puts it: "I can hit a man 20 times in four seconds, I can push 132 press ups in 60 seconds." But judging by our current obsession with health and exercise, Solitary Fitness might be the book which will see Bronson�s face sitting on every coffee table in the land. He might be the man to give us the dream body which so many so-called fitness gurus promise but fail to motivate us into. Because Bronson has learned to use words as powerfully as he can use his fists. "All this crap about high-protein drinks, pills, diets, it�s just a load of bollocks and a multi-million-pound racket," he writes, in what can only be described as a refreshingly honest style. "We can all be fat lazy bastards, it�s our choice, I�m sick of hearing and reading about excuses, if you stuff your face with shit you become shit, that�s logical to me." As motivational mantras go, that might be just the kick up the, er, backside we all needed. Solitary Fitness by Charles Bronson is published by Mirage Publishing and will be available in bookstores from October at �7.99 ------------------------ Yahoo! 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[SAtalk] SA CGI Configurator Scripts I have been trying to research via SA mirrors and search engines if a canned script exists giving clients access to their user_prefs options via a web-based CGI interface. Numerous ISPs provide this feature to clients, but so far I can find nothing. Our configuration uses Amavis-Postfix and ClamAV for virus filtering and Procmail with SpamAssassin for spam filtering. I would prefer not to have to write a script myself, but will appreciate any suggestions. ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old cell phone? Get a new here for FREE! https://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390 _______________________________________________ Spamassassin-talk mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk
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[SAdev] Interesting approach to Spam handling.. Hello, have you seen and discussed this article and his approach? Thank you http://www.paulgraham.com/spam.html -- "Hell, there are no rules here-- we're trying to accomplish something." -- Thomas Alva Edison ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old cell phone? Get a new here for FREE! https://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390 _______________________________________________ Spamassassin-devel mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-devel
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Re: [SAdev] Live Rule Updates after Release ??? Yes - great minds think alike. But even withput eval rules it would be very useful. It would allow us to respond quickly to spammer's tricks. Theo Van Dinter wrote: > On Thu, Aug 22, 2002 at 07:27:52AM -0700, Marc Perkel wrote: > >>Has anyone though of the idea of live updates of rules after release? The >>idea being that the user can run a cron job once a week or so and get the >>new default rule set. This would allow us to react faster to: > > > I suggested this a few months ago. I don't remember the details of what > came out of it except that it would only be useful for non-eval rules > since those require code changes. > ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old cell phone? Get a new here for FREE! https://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390 _______________________________________________ Spamassassin-devel mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-devel
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[ILUG] Re: Problems with RAID1 on cobalt raq3 On Mon, Aug 19, 2002 at 03:08:16PM +0100, John P. Looney mentioned: > This is likely because to get it to boot, like the cobalt, I'm actually > passing root=/dev/hda5 to the kernel, not /dev/md0. Just to solve this...the reason I was booting the box with root=/dev/hda5, not /dev/md0 was because /dev/md0 wasn't booting - it would barf with 'can't find init'. It turns out that this is because I was populating md0 with tar. Which seems to have 'issues' with crosslinked files - for instance, it was trying to make a hard link of glibc.so to hda - and failing. It was only as I did it again with a friend present, that he spotted the errors, and queried them. We noticed that the hard linked files just didn't exist on the new rootfs. When we duplicated the filesystems with dump instead of tar, it worked fine, I was able to tell lilo to use root=/dev/md0 and everything worked. Woohoo. Kate -- Irish Linux Users' Group: [email protected] http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. List maintainer: [email protected]
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Re: New Sequences Window --==_Exmh_-1317289252P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > From: Chris Garrigues <[email protected]> > Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 10:40:39 -0500 > > > From: Chris Garrigues <[email protected]> > > Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 10:17:45 -0500 > > > > Ouch...I'll get right on it. > > > > > From: Robert Elz <[email protected]> > > > Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 19:30:01 +0700 > > > > > > Any chance of having that lengthen instead? I like all my exmh stuff > > > in nice columns (fits the display better). That is, I use the detache > d > > > folder list, one column. The main exmh window takes up full screen, > > > top to bottom, but less than half the width, etc... > > I thought about that. The first order approximation would be to just add > using pack .... -side top instead of pack ... -side left, however, since their > each a different width, it would look funny. I've done this. It's not as pretty as I think it should be, but it works. I'm going to leave the cosmetic issues to others. When I update the documentation, I'll add this to the exmh.TODO file. I'm leaving for a 2 1/2 week vacation in a week, so this is the last new functionality I'm going to add for a while. Also, I now have pretty much everything in there that I want for my own use, so I'm probably pretty much done. I'll work on bug fixes and documentation before my vacation, and hopefully do nothing more afterwards. Chris -- Chris Garrigues http://www.DeepEddy.Com/~cwg/ virCIO http://www.virCIO.Com 716 Congress, Suite 200 Austin, TX 78701 +1 512 374 0500 World War III: The Wrong-Doers Vs. the Evil-Doers. --==_Exmh_-1317289252P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Exmh version 2.2_20000822 06/23/2000 iD8DBQE9ZQJ/K9b4h5R0IUIRAiPuAJwL4mUus5whLNQZC8MsDlGpEdKNrACcDfZH PcGgN9frLIM+C5Z3vagi2wE= =qJoJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_-1317289252P-- _______________________________________________ Exmh-workers mailing list [email protected] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/exmh-workers
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The case for spam SpamAssassin is hurting democracy! Owen --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/news/opinion/3900215.htm Internet can level the political playing field By Mike McCurry and Larry Purpuro NOT many months from now, people across the country will experience one of the great recurring features of American democracy. At shopping malls, on factory floors, at church socials and even on our front stoops, we will be approached by individuals who want to represent us in public office. While chances are high that we won't know them personally, they will walk up to us, offer a handshake and a flier and ask for our votes. Just as technology is affecting every other area of communication, it has begun to affect the way political candidates communicate with voters. In this year's GOP gubernatorial primary, California Secretary of State Bill Jones, who faced better-funded candidates, acquired the e-mail addresses of more than a million potential California voters and sent each an unsolicited e-mail asking for support. That day, he might have chosen any of the more traditional -- and more expensive -- methods of contacting voters, such as direct mail, radio spots or TV ads. But he spent only about 2 cents per message, instead of 35 cents or more per message for direct mail or in another medium. Had Jones chosen direct mail, radio or TV, that communication would have been equally ``unsolicited,'' as defined in the e-mail world. Few voters would have ``opted in'' to receive campaign information from Jones through any of those channels. The response to Jones' e-mail effort, however, was swift and intense. He was lambasted by anti-spam advocates, and media coverage was almost entirely negative. To be fair, some of Jones' tactics could have been refined. He used a less-than-perfect list and no standard-practice ``paid for'' disclaimer in the message. His detractors, however, attacked him not for his tactical miscues but because the e-mail was sent unsolicited. In fact, Jones' online campaign may have been his most visible asset. In an era of cynicism toward money in politics -- money typically spent on other unsolicited communication mediums -- Jones tried to level the playing field. No one likes commercial spam. It is irrelevant and untargeted and can be highly intrusive and even offensive. But as a sophisticated society, it's time to differentiate commercial spam from very different unsolicited e-mail sent by political candidates to voters. The debate is particularly relevant in light of legislation in Congress that would constitute the first federal law to directly address spam. We believe e-mail is no more intrusive than direct mail, telemarketing or TV advertising when it comes to politicians seeking to reach voters. A simple link in good e-mail campaigns allows recipients to opt out of future mailings. Direct mail takes at least a phone call or stamp to be taken off a list, and viewers must repeatedly endure TV ads. When a candidate lacks a large campaign war chest, he or she can use the Internet to provide constituents with information to better prepare them to perform their civic duty of casting educated votes. With more than 60 percent of all potential voters in this country possessing e-mail accounts, it makes sense that political candidates use this medium. Candidates might avoid some of the tactical problems encountered by the Jones campaign if they use the technologies available today that better ensure quality of e-mail lists and target content to specific recipient groups. But the broader point remains. When a political candidate sends a voter an e-mail, that recipient can choose to delete the message without opening it, unsubscribe from the list, read it or even reply and engage the sender. That choice should belong to the voter -- not to anti-spam advocates whose efforts are better focused on commercial e-mail. Political candidates should be free to communicate with voters as best they can, and let voters decide what to do with that information. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike McCurry, former press secretary for President Clinton, is CEO of an advocacy management and communications software company. Larry Purpuro, the former Republican National Committee deputy chief of staff, is founder and president of a political e-marketing firm. This was written for the Los Angeles Times. http://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork
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[IIU] Eircom aDSL Nat'ing Hi all, apologies for the possible silly question (i don't think it is, but), but is Eircom's aDSL service NAT'ed? and what implications would that have for VoIP? I know there are difficulties with VoIP or connecting to clients connected to a NAT'ed network from the internet wild (i.e. machines with static, real IPs) any help pointers would be helpful, cheers -- rgrds, Bernard -- Bernard Tyers * National Centre for Sensor Research * P:353-1-700-5273 * E: [email protected] * W: www.physics.dcu.ie/~bty * L:N117 _______________________________________________ IIU mailing list [email protected] http://iiu.taint.org/mailman/listinfo/iiu
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[zzzzteana] Re: Australian Catholic Kiddie Perv Steps Aside --- In forteana@y..., "D.McMann" <dmcmann@b...> wrote: > Robert Moaby, 33, who sent death threats to staff, was also jailed > for hoarding indecent pictures of children on his home computer. > ========= > > Hmm, if I didn't trust our government and secret police, I could look at > this another way.... There is a bit of circumstantial evidence - apparently some MT listers were approached by him (via email) - a little research in dejanews/google groups showed a number of messages from him, clearly hoping to contact girls, appearing in "alt.teens" and similar groups - I just tried a Google Groups search on "Robert Moaby" and some of them came top of the list. Note for Marie - "MT" stands for Mark Thomas, a slightly slimmer, UK version of your Michael Moore - the mailing list is named after him. Rob ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> 4 DVDs Free +s&p Join Now http://us.click.yahoo.com/pt6YBB/NXiEAA/mG3HAA/7gSolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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RE: [ILUG] Sun Solaris.. In a nutshell - Solaris is Suns own flavour of UNIX. > -----Original Message----- > From: Kiall Mac Innes [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 22 August 2002 17:23 > To: ILUG > Subject: [ILUG] Sun Solaris.. > > > Can someone explain what type of operating system Solaris > is... as ive never seen or used it i dont know wheather to > get a server from Sun or from DELL i would prefer a linux > based server and Sun seems to be the one for that but im not > sure if Solaris is a distro of linux or a completely > different operating system? can someone explain... > > Kiall Mac Innes > > > -- > Irish Linux Users' Group: [email protected] > http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for > (un)subscription information. List maintainer: [email protected] > -- Irish Linux Users' Group: [email protected] http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. List maintainer: [email protected]
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[zzzzteana] Which Muppet Are You? Apols if this has been posted before: http://www.pinkpaperclips.net/subs/quiz2.html Rob ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> 4 DVDs Free +s&p Join Now http://us.click.yahoo.com/pt6YBB/NXiEAA/mG3HAA/7gSolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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[ILUG] Sun Solaris.. Can someone explain what type of operating system Solaris is... as ive never seen or used it i dont know wheather to get a server from Sun or from DELL i would prefer a linux based server and Sun seems to be the one for that but im not sure if Solaris is a distro of linux or a completely different operating system? can someone explain... Kiall Mac Innes -- Irish Linux Users' Group: [email protected] http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. List maintainer: [email protected]
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Re: [zzzzteana] Which Muppet Are You? > Apols if this has been posted before: > > http://www.pinkpaperclips.net/subs/quiz2.html > So, anyone who isn't Beaker? TimC Meep ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> 4 DVDs Free +s&p Join Now http://us.click.yahoo.com/pt6YBB/NXiEAA/mG3HAA/7gSolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Re: [ILUG] Sun Solaris.. On Thu, Aug 22, 2002 at 05:13:01PM +0100, Fergal Moran mentioned: > In a nutshell - Solaris is Suns own flavour of UNIX. Though I'm sure that this nice person would like a bit more detail. Solaris is quite different to Linux, though these days you can make solaris act a lot like linux with an extra CD of GNU tools Sun ship with solaris. It is based on the SysV unix family, so it's quite similar to other unixen like HPUX and SCO. Sun's hardware in general is more reliable, and a lot more expensive. One of the main bonuses you get by buying Sun is that you are getting your hardware and software from one company, so if you have a support contract, they have to fix it. They can't fob you off with 'that's a software problem, talk to the software vendor.' etc. If you are set on Linux, you most likely can do your own support. There is then a world of different hardware options. You can run Linux on Sparc, though some companies like RedHat don't maintain a sparc port anymore. You can also buy your machine from linux-oriented companies like DNUK, who do machines designed to run linux, and their own version of linux, that has a few extras for their machines. Or, you can get a machine from a cheaper company like Dell, and it'll most likely work, most of the time. John -- Irish Linux Users' Group: [email protected] http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. List maintainer: [email protected]
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Re: [ILUG] Sun Solaris.. John P. Looney wrote: > On Thu, Aug 22, 2002 at 05:13:01PM +0100, Fergal Moran mentioned: > >>In a nutshell - Solaris is Suns own flavour of UNIX. > > > Though I'm sure that this nice person would like a bit more detail. > > Solaris is quite different to Linux, though these days you can make > solaris act a lot like linux with an extra CD of GNU tools Sun ship with > solaris. It is based on the SysV unix family, so it's quite similar to > other unixen like HPUX and SCO. > > Sun's hardware in general is more reliable, and a lot more expensive. One > of the main bonuses you get by buying Sun is that you are getting your > hardware and software from one company, so if you have a support contract, > they have to fix it. They can't fob you off with 'that's a software > problem, talk to the software vendor.' etc. > > If you are set on Linux, you most likely can do your own support. There > is then a world of different hardware options. You can run Linux on Sparc, > though some companies like RedHat don't maintain a sparc port anymore. > > You can also buy your machine from linux-oriented companies like DNUK, > who do machines designed to run linux, and their own version of linux, > that has a few extras for their machines. Or, you can get a machine from a > cheaper company like Dell, and it'll most likely work, most of the time. Why do you say Dell is cheaper than DNUK? It gets a bit complicated though! http://www.levenez.com/unix/history.html P�draig. -- Irish Linux Users' Group: [email protected] http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. List maintainer: [email protected]
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Re: [zzzzteana] Which Muppet Are You? Hey, it's not easy being green. leslie Leslie Ellen Jones, Ph.D. Jack of All Trades and Doctor of Folklore [email protected] "Truth is an odd number" -- Flann O'Brien ----- Original Message ----- From: Dino To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 10:13 AM Subject: RE: [zzzzteana] Which Muppet Are You? Damn kermit...boring... Wanna be rizzo he's the coolest Dino Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> 4 DVDs Free +s&p Join Now http://us.click.yahoo.com/pt6YBB/NXiEAA/mG3HAA/7gSolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Re: [ILUG] Sun Solaris.. > On Thu, 22 Aug 2002, John P. Looney wrote: > > Sun's hardware in general is more reliable, > ROFL. not in our experience. Well at least our Caps-Lock keys work: [email protected] said: > Another problem. I have a Dell branded keyboard and if I hit Caps-Lock > twice, the whole machine crashes (in Linux, not Windows) - even the on/ > off switch is inactive, leaving me to reach for the power cable > instead. :-P [email protected] said: > as if he wanted Solaris 9 for x86, he'd be waiting a bit erm... it runs Solaris x86 as standard... Cheers, ~Al -- Expressed in this posting are my opinions. They are in no way related to opinions held by my employer, Sun Microsystems. Statements on Sun products included here are not gospel and may be fiction rather than truth. -- Irish Linux Users' Group: [email protected] http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. List maintainer: [email protected]
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RE: The Curse of India's Socialism > You have multiple generations of > peasants/squatters that cultivate and live on the lands almost as a > human parts of the property package. When I'd read that "getting legal title can take 20 years", when I believe that 1 year ought to be more than sufficient, (and helped by the Cairo reference) I'd assumed that we were talking about the urban poor. If I see people living in mansions, or even in suburban subdivisions, I assume they didn't have too much trouble with their titles. If I see people living in shanties and haphazard alleyways, I tend to assume their parcels weren't exactly recorded on the government maps, or paid for with a bank loan, especially when nearby vacant lots have shotgun wielding men presumably intent on keeping them "development" free. Now, it may be that "Manhattanites' view of America" to say that outside of Metro Manila, Davao, and maybe another city or two (Cebu?), everything else (literally) is the boondocks. But going on that very broad assumption, I guess I'm describing the flip side of Mr. Roger's experience: the paisanos (who leave behind those who remain on a patron's rural land) move to Manila, and (the second assumption) squat in shantytowns there, at least until they can line up a middle-class job. So, going on two large assumptions, I can come up with a scenario under which title would take 20 years: a shantytown arises somewhere in the midst of a section (or whatever the Spanish used to divvy up the land) and it takes decades of arguing to put together a package which somehow can both compensate the owner and record lots for the inhabitants. Just transferring title to an existing lot, between parties who have money, ought not to be a problem. The obvious solution, at least to us barking farting chihuahuas on FoRK, is to "introduce market mechanisms". It is left as an exercise to come up with one which works when many of the agents (are perceived to) have negligible NPV. -Dave > [land reform] meant that all the agricultural producers had > to plant crops all the time (profitable or not) ... What happened to more highly-capitalized land? Putting in trees instead of crops sounds like it might sidestep that. > Mr. Long, I think you'd particularly enjoy the De Soto work. On the "to find" list. Any chance of an explanation of that "Bell Jar" in the meantime? http://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork
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[ILUG] Newbie seeks advice - Suse 7.2 Folks, my first time posting - have a bit of Unix experience, but am new to Linux. Just got a new PC at home - Dell box with Windows XP. Added a second hard disk for Linux. Partitioned the disk and have installed Suse 7.2 from CD, which went fine except it didn't pick up my monitor. I have a Dell branded E151FPp 15" LCD flat panel monitor and a nVidia GeForce4 Ti4200 video card, both of which are probably too new to feature in Suse's default set. I downloaded a driver from the nVidia website and installed it using RPM. Then I ran Sax2 (as was recommended in some postings I found on the net), but it still doesn't feature my video card in the available list. What next? Another problem. I have a Dell branded keyboard and if I hit Caps-Lock twice, the whole machine crashes (in Linux, not Windows) - even the on/off switch is inactive, leaving me to reach for the power cable instead. If anyone can help me in any way with these probs., I'd be really grateful - I've searched the 'net but have run out of ideas. Or should I be going for a different version of Linux such as RedHat? Opinions welcome. Thanks a lot, Peter -- Irish Linux Users' Group: [email protected] http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. List maintainer: [email protected]
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Re: lifegem On Thu, 22 Aug 2002, Joseph S. Barrera III wrote: --]Why wait until you're dead? I'm sure there's enough carbon in --]the fat from your typical liposuction job to make a decent diamond. So thats why I keep seeing DeBeers agents hovering around me. -tom(diamonds in the folds of my flesh)wsmf http://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork
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Re: lifegem Joseph S. Barrera III wrote: > Chris Haun wrote: > >> A LifeGem is a certified, high quality diamond created from the >> carbon of your loved one as a memorial to their unique and wonderful >> life. > > > Why wait until you're dead? I'm sure there's enough carbon in > the fat from your typical liposuction job to make a decent diamond. > > - Joe > Oh, hell - what about excrement? I'd love to be able to say - No, the sun doesn't shine out of my ass, but there's the occasional diamond. ;-). Owen http://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork
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Re: [ILUG] Formatting a windows partition from Linux Update on this for anyone that's interested, and because I like closed threads... nothing worse than an infinite while loop, is there? I ended up formatting a floppy on my flatmate's (un-networked) P100 running FAT16 Win95, and mcopied the contents of the bootdisk across. Now I have a FAT16 Win98 install running alongside Slackware, and can play Metal Gear Solid when the mood takes me ;) /Ciaran. On Wednesday 21 August 2002 16:21, Ciaran Johnston wrote: > Dublin said: > > If you copy the files from your disk to the c: partition and mark it as > > active it should work ... > > Yeah, I figured that, but it doesn't seem to ... well, if that's the case > I'll give it another go tonight, maybe come back with some error messages. > > Just to clarify for those who didn't understand me initially - I have a > floppy drive installed, but it doesn't physically work. There's nowhere > handy to pick one up where I am, and I don't fancy waiting a few days for > one to arrive from Peats. > > Thanks for the answers, > Ciaran. > > > You especially need io.sys, command.com and msdos.sys > > > > your cd driver .sys and read the autoexec.bat and config.sys files for > > hints on what you did with your boot floppy <g> > > > > P > > > > On Wed, 2002-08-21 at 14:07, Ciaran Johnston wrote: > >> Hi folks, > >> The situation is this: at home, I have a PC with 2 10Gig HDDs, and no > >> (working) floppy drive. I have been running Linux solely for the last > >> year, but recently got the urge to, among other things, play some of > >> my Windoze games. I normally install the windows partition using a > >> boot floppy which I have conveniently zipped up, but I haven't any way > >> of writing or reading a floppy. > >> So, how do I go about: > >> 1. formatting a C: drive with system files (normally I would use > >> format /s c: from the floppy). > >> 2. Installing the CDROM drivers (my bootdisk (I wrote it many years > >> ago) does this normally). > >> 3. Booting from the partition? > >> > >> I wiped all my linux partitions from the first drive and created > >> partitions for Windows (HDA1) Slackware and RedHat. I used cfdisk for > >> this. I made the first drive (hda) bootable. I then installed the > >> windows partition in LILO and reran lilo (installed in MBR). I copied > >> the contents of boot.zip to my new windows partition and tried to boot > >> it - all I get is a garbled line of squiggles. > >> > >> Anyone any ideas? I can't think of anywhere in Athlone to get a new > >> floppy drive this evening... > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Ciaran. > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Irish Linux Users' Group: [email protected] > >> http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription > >> information. List maintainer: [email protected] -- Irish Linux Users' Group: [email protected] http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. List maintainer: [email protected]
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public mailing list sign up package Has anyone seen/heard of/used some package that would let a random person go to a webpage, create a mailing list, then administer that list. Also of course let ppl sign up for the lists and manage their subscriptions. Similar to the old listbot.org, but i'd like to have it running on my server not someone elses :) Chris http://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork
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Entrepreneurs An apparent quote from Dubya, from the Times (sent to me by my Dad): http://www.timesonline.co.uk/printFriendly/0,,1-43-351083,00.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ TONY BLAIR's special relationship with George W. Bush is under considerable strain. Not only do the two disagree on Yassir Arafat's tenure as leader of the Palestinian Authority, but Blair has started telling disparaging anecdotes about the President. Baroness Williams of Crosby recalled a story told to her by 'my good friend Tony Blair' recently in Brighton. Blair, Bush and Jacques Chirac were discussing economics and, in particular, the decline of the French economy. 'The problem with the French,' Bush confided in Blair, 'is that they don't have a word for entrepreneur.' ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ R http://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork
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[ILUG] Re: Sun Solaris Al white wrote: >erm... it runs Solaris x86 as standard... It runs Solaris 8 x86 as standard. (I was joking Al) M. -- Irish Linux Users' Group: [email protected] http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. List maintainer: [email protected]
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Re: Encryption approach to secure web applications Hi, Thank you for the useful replies, I have found some interesting tutorials in the ibm developer connection. https://www6.software.ibm.com/developerworks/education/j-sec1 and https://www6.software.ibm.com/developerworks/education/j-sec2 Registration is needed. I will post the same message on the Web Application Security list, as suggested by someone. For now, I thing I will use md5 for password checking (I will use the approach described in secure programmin fo linux and unix how-to). I will separate the authentication module, so I can change its implementation at anytime. Thank you again! Mario Torre -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
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Re: [ILUG] Re: Sun Solaris Mark Twomey joked: > >erm... it runs Solaris x86 as standard... > > It runs Solaris 8 x86 as standard. > (I was joking Al) And will run Solaris 9 when Sun catch up with the x86 drivers and kernel. Although don't hold your breath for the free DVD. It will never come. (Spot the person who applied for the free Solaris 9 DVD, only to be told three months later it is no longer available.<mutter>) FWIW Solaris and Linux seem to be getting closer all the time. I can no longer see any specific reason why one is better than the other. Expect Red Hat Solaris 11 any time now... <grin> - Matthew __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com -- Irish Linux Users' Group: [email protected] http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. List maintainer: [email protected]
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Re: Entrepreneurs On Thu, Aug 22, 2002 at 10:58:34PM +0200, Robert Harley wrote: > An apparent quote from Dubya, from the Times (sent to me by my Dad): > > http://www.timesonline.co.uk/printFriendly/0,,1-43-351083,00.html http://www.snopes.com/quotes/bush.htm Claim: President George W. Bush proclaimed, "The problem with the French is that they don't have a word for entrepreneur." Origins: Yet another French fried "George W. Bush is dumb" story has been taken up by those who like their caricatures drawn in stark, bold lines. According to scuttlebutt that emerged in the British press in July 2002, President Bush, Britain's Prime Minister Tony Blair, and France's President Jacques Chirac were discussing economics and, in particular, the decline of the French economy. "The problem with the French," Bush afterwards confided in Blair, "is that they don't have a word for entrepreneur." The source was Shirley Williams, also known as the Baroness Williams of Crosby, who claimed "my good friend Tony Blair" had recently regaled her with this anecdote in Brighton. Lloyd Grove of The Washington Post was unable to reach Baroness Williams to gain her confirmation of the tale, but he did receive a call from Alastair Campbell, Blair's director of communications and strategy. "I can tell you that the prime minister never heard George Bush say that, and he certainly never told Shirley Williams that President Bush did say it," Campbell told The Post. "If she put this in a speech, it must have been a joke." This is far from the first time Bush has been made the butt of a jibe meant to showcase what some perceive as his less than stellar intellectual abilities. Without straining our memories too hard, we can come up with three other instances we've chronicled on this site. In the summer of 2001, the joke of the moment centered upon a supposed study that had resulted in the ranking of Presidential IQs, with George W. Bush being pegged as the Chief Executive who scraped the bottom of the intelligence barrel. In December 2000 it was a fake Nostradamus quatrain which pontificated that the "village idiot" would win the 2000 Presidential election. And in the spring of 2002, it was the story of Bush's waving at Stevie Wonder that set folks to chortling up their sleeves. Stories that illustrate this widely believed intellectual shortcoming will always waft after George W. Bush because they seemingly confirm what many already hold as true about this public figure, that he's not the brightest fellow that's ever been. It is human nature to revel in yarns that the hearer at some level agrees with, thus tales of this sort will always fall upon appreciative ears. Barbara "ears of corn" Mikkelson Last updated: 29 July 2002 http://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork
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RE: [ILUG] Newbie seeks advice - Suse 7.2 hehe sorry but if you hit caps lock twice the computer crashes? theres one ive never heard before... have you tryed Dell support yet? I think dell computers prefer RedHat... (dell provide some computers pre-loaded with red hat) i dont know for sure tho! so get someone elses opnion as well as mine... -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Peter Staunton Sent: 22 August 2002 19:58 To: [email protected] Subject: [ILUG] Newbie seeks advice - Suse 7.2 Folks, my first time posting - have a bit of Unix experience, but am new to Linux. Just got a new PC at home - Dell box with Windows XP. Added a second hard disk for Linux. Partitioned the disk and have installed Suse 7.2 from CD, which went fine except it didn't pick up my monitor. I have a Dell branded E151FPp 15" LCD flat panel monitor and a nVidia GeForce4 Ti4200 video card, both of which are probably too new to feature in Suse's default set. I downloaded a driver from the nVidia website and installed it using RPM. Then I ran Sax2 (as was recommended in some postings I found on the net), but it still doesn't feature my video card in the available list. What next? Another problem. I have a Dell branded keyboard and if I hit Caps-Lock twice, the whole machine crashes (in Linux, not Windows) - even the on/off switch is inactive, leaving me to reach for the power cable instead. If anyone can help me in any way with these probs., I'd be really grateful - I've searched the 'net but have run out of ideas. Or should I be going for a different version of Linux such as RedHat? Opinions welcome. Thanks a lot, Peter -- Irish Linux Users' Group: [email protected] http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. List maintainer: [email protected] -- Irish Linux Users' Group: [email protected] http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. List maintainer: [email protected]
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Re: [IIU] Eircom aDSL Nat'ing At 17:10 22/08/2002 +0100, Nick Hilliard wrote: > > apologies for the possible silly question (i don't think it is, but), > > but is Eircom's aDSL service NAT'ed? > >No - you get unfiltered access with a real (but dynamic) IP address. > > > and what implications would that have for VoIP? I know there are > > difficulties with VoIP or connecting to clients connected to a NAT'ed > > network from the internet wild (i.e. machines with static, real IPs) > >You will probably suffer from the high latency of DLS lines. Typically, >you're talking about 50ms RTT to the local bas, which is pretty high. >If your voip application can handle this, then you're ok. > >Nick what's the deal with all this latency? it's not like that in other places where I've used dsl. i read some story about it being done that way to allow greater distances to be covered or something like that. however, my knowledge of physics is really only newtonian, and I don't understand how worsening latency could possibly improve the reliability of a 2000 foot long piece of copper. Perhaps it has something to do with stretching the time-space continuum? can someone explain this in words of five syllables or less? a. >_______________________________________________ >IIU mailing list >[email protected] >http://iiu.taint.org/mailman/listinfo/iiu -- Antoin O Lachtnain ** [email protected] ** http://www.eire.com ** +353-87-240-6691 _______________________________________________ IIU mailing list [email protected] http://iiu.taint.org/mailman/listinfo/iiu
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Re: Entrepreneurs Manoj Kasichainula wrote; >http://www.snopes.com/quotes/bush.htm > >Claim: President George W. Bush proclaimed, "The problem with >the French is that they don't have a word for entrepreneur." > >Status: False. >Lloyd Grove of The Washington Post was unable to reach Baroness >Williams to gain her confirmation of the tale, but he did >receive a call from Alastair Campbell, Blair's director of >communications and strategy. "I can tell you that the prime >minister never heard George Bush say that, and he certainly >never told Shirley Williams that President Bush did say it," >Campbell told The Post. "If she put this in a speech, it must >have been a joke." So some guy failed to reach the source, but instead got spin doctor to deny it. Wot, is he thick enough to expect official confirmation that, yes, Blair is going around casting aspersions on Bush??? It's an amusing anecdote, I don't know if it's true or not, but certainly nothing here supports the authoritative sounding conclusion "Status: False". R http://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork
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Re: The case for spam Lucas Gonze: >Spam is *the* tool for dissident news, since the fact that it's unsolicited >means that recipients can't be blamed for being on a mailing list. That depends on how the list is collected, or even on what the senders say about how the list is collected. Better to just put it on a website, and that way it can be surfed anonymously. AND it doesn't clutter my inbox. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com http://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork
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Re: Entrepreneurs On 23 Aug 2002 at 2:57, Robert Harley wrote: > It's an amusing anecdote, I don't know if it's true or not, > but certainly nothing here supports the authoritative > sounding conclusion "Status: False". I actually thought it was pretty funny and quite accurate. Who cares if the spinmeisters are denying it? http://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork
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Re: [ILUG] Newbie seeks advice - Suse 7.2 < > > I downloaded a driver from the nVidia website and installed it using RPM. > Then I ran Sax2 (as was recommended in some postings I found on the net), but > it still doesn't feature my video card in the available list. What next? hmmm. Peter. Open a terminal and as root type lsmod you want to find a module called NVdriver. If it isn't loaded then load it. #insmod NVdriver.o Oh and ensure you have this module loaded on boot.... else when you reboot you might be in for a nasty surprise. Once the kernel module is loaded #vim /etc/X11/XF86Config in the section marked Driver I have "NeoMagic" you need to have Driver "nvidia" Here is part of my XF86Config Also note that using the card you are using you 'should' be able to safely use the FbBpp 32 option . Section "Module" Load "extmod" Load "xie" Load "pex5" Load "glx" SubSection "dri" #You don't need to load this Peter. Option "Mode" "666" EndSubSection Load "dbe" Load "record" Load "xtrap" Load "speedo" Load "type1" EndSection #Plus the Modelines for your monitor should be singfinicantly different. Section "Monitor" Identifier "Monitor0" VendorName "Monitor Vendor" ModelName "Monitor Model" HorizSync 28.00-35.00 VertRefresh 43.00-72.00 Modeline "800x600" 36 800 824 896 1024 600 601 603 625 Modeline "1024x768" 49 1024 1032 1176 1344 768 771 777 806 EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "Card0" Driver "neomagic" #Change this to "nvidia"... making sure the modules are in the correct path VendorName "Neomagic" # "Nvidia" BoardName "NM2160" BusID "PCI:0:18:0" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Card0" Monitor "Monitor0" DefaultDepth 24 SubSection "Display" Depth 1 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 4 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 8 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 15 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 16 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 24 #FbBpp 32 #Ie you should be able lto uncomment this line Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" # And add in higher resulutions as desired. EndSubSection EndSection -- Irish Linux Users' Group: [email protected] http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. List maintainer: [email protected]
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Re: Entrepreneurs According to my son, it was actually Homer Simpson, who claimed the French had no word for victory. Chuck On Thursday, August 22, 2002, at 01:58 PM, Robert Harley wrote: > An apparent quote from Dubya, from the Times (sent to me by my Dad): > > http://www.timesonline.co.uk/printFriendly/0,,1-43-351083,00.html > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > TONY BLAIR's special relationship with George W. Bush is under > considerable strain. Not only do the two disagree on Yassir Arafat's > tenure as leader of the Palestinian Authority, but Blair has started > telling disparaging anecdotes about the President. > > Baroness Williams of Crosby recalled a story told to her by 'my good > friend Tony Blair' recently in Brighton. Blair, Bush and Jacques > Chirac were discussing economics and, in particular, the decline of > the French economy. 'The problem with the French,' Bush confided in > Blair, 'is that they don't have a word for entrepreneur.' > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > R > http://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork > http://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork
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Re: Entrepreneurs Whore eructed: >--]It's an amusing anecdote, I don't know if it's true or not, but >--]certainly nothing here supports the authoritative sounding conclusion >--]"Status: False". > >So thats the trick, just let any anecdotal utterances you LIKE be deemed >true [...] Exsqueeze me, but what part of "I don't know if it's true or not" did you fail to grok? I personally doubt it simply because I never heard of Bush and Chirac going to Brighton. Next time I hear a joke, I promise not to laugh until I have checked out primary sources for confirmation in triplicate, OK? Good thing we have you around to keep us on the straight and narrow, all the while inundating us with such erudite profundities as "Kill your idols folks", "fight the powers that be, from with out and from with in" and innumerable other dippy bromides. R http://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork
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FYI - gone this weekend I won't be reading email until Sunday night or so. Good luck with 2.40 and don't do anything I wouldn't do. ;-) - Dan
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Re: [ILUG] eircoms adsl modems It will function as a router if that is what you wish. It even looks like the modem's embedded OS is some kind of linux, being that it has interesting interfaces like eth0. I don't use it as a router though.... I just have it do the absolute minimum DSL stuff and do all the really fun stuff like pppoe on my linux box........ Also the manual tells you what the default password is. Don't forget to run pppoe over the alcatel speedtouch 350i as in my case you 'HAVE TO' have a bridge configured in the router/modem's software........ This lists your VCI values etc. > Also, does anyone know if the high-end SpeedTouch, with > 4 ethernet ports, can act as a full router or do I still > need to run a pppoe stack on the linux box? > > Regards, > > Vin > > > -- > Irish Linux Users' Group: [email protected] > http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. > List maintainer: [email protected] > -- Irish Linux Users' Group: [email protected] http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. List maintainer: [email protected]
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Re: Internet saturation (but not in Iceland) >>>>> "E" == Eirikur Hallgrimsson <[email protected]> writes: E> Gary's news service at teledyn.com has an article on Internet E> Saturation. Let me ask you....If you were on a rock in the E> middle of the Atlantic, mostly in the dark for half the year, E> wouldn't *you* like a bit of internet distraction? They've E> already done the obvious and fiber-ringed the island. There's lots of similar places. Saskatchewan, for example, once shared with Iceland the distinction of most telephone connections per capita, and for a long time shared the internet penetration lead with Iceland (Sask is a land-locked massive expanse of ultra-flat dust with only two rivers and farm sizes measured in the hundred-thousand-hectares). It's still curious Iceland leads. Maybe there's just a deep cultural curiousity and fascination with watching advertising from the rest of the world. Maybe they're downloading Bjork videos. -- Gary Lawrence Murphy <[email protected]> TeleDynamics Communications Inc Business Advantage through Community Software : http://www.teledyn.com "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers."(Pablo Picasso)
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Re: Computational Recreations On Monday, August 26, 2002, at 09:59 AM, Tom wrote: > Post MG in the 80's there were the colums by A K Dewdney that I dug a > bunch put into a book called Turing Omnibus and then there is , of > course, all the goodens put out by Dougy Hoffstadler. A.K. Dewdney was the name I was looking for and the column was "Computer Recreations". Turns out he's still in Ontario and even has some homemade Sci-Fi online... http://www.csd.uwo.ca/faculty/akd/TALES/index.html Vat Man Programming Roger The Homunculids Alphie & Omega ...Ross...
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Re: [SAtalk] O.T. Habeus -- Why? On 28 Aug 2002, Daniel Quinlan wrote: > Dan Kohn <[email protected]> writes: > > > Daniel, it's easy enough for you to change the Habeas scores yourself > > on your installation. If Habeas fails to live up to its promise to > > only license the warrant mark to non-spammers and to place all > > violators on the HIL, then I have no doubt that Justin and Craig will > > quickly remove us from the next release. But, you're trying to kill > > Habeas before it has a chance to show any promise. > > I think I've worked on SA enough to understand that I can localize a > score. I'm just not comfortable with using SpamAssassin as a vehicle > for drumming up your business at the expense of our user base. I have to agree here. If Habeas is going to die just because SA does not support it, that's a serious problem with the business model; but that is nobody's problem but Habeas's. A possible solution is for Habeas's business model to include some kind of incentive for users of SA to give it the benefit of the doubt. I have yet to think of an incentive that fits the bill ... On Thu, 29 Aug 2002, Justin Mason wrote: > I don't see a problem supporting it in SpamAssassin -- but I see Dan's > points. > > - high score: as far as I can see, that's because SpamAssassin is > assigning such high scores to legit newsletters these days, and the > Habeas mark has to bring it down below that. :( IMO we have to fix > the high-scorers anyway -- no spam ever *needs* to score over 5 in our > scoring system, 5 == tagged anyway. This is off the topic of the rest of this discussion, but amavisd (in all its incarnations) and MIMEDefang and several other MTA plugins all reject at SMTP time messages that scores higher than some threshold (often 10). If some new release were to start scoring all spam no higher than 5.1, there'd better be _zero_ FPs, because all those filters would drop their thresholds to 5. On Thu, 29 Aug 2002, Michael Moncur wrote: > But I agree that there needs to be more focus on eliminating rules that > frequently hit on newsletters. If any newsletters actually use the Habeas > mark, that will be one way to help. Newsletters won't use the mark. Habeas is priced way too high -- a factor of at least 20 over what the market will bear, IMO -- on a per-message basis for most typical mailing lists (Lockergnome, say) to afford it. On Thu, 29 Aug 2002, Harold Hallikainen wrote: > Habeus has come up with a very clever way to use existing law to battle > spam. It seems that at some point they could drop the licensing fee to > $1 or less and make all their income off suing the spammers for > copyright infringement. Sorry, that just can't work. If the Habeas mark actually becomes both widespread enough in non-spam, and effectively-enforced enough to be absent from spam, such that, e.g., SA could assign a positive score to messages that do NOT have it, then spammers are out of business and Habeas has no one to sue. There's nobody left to charge except the people who want (or are forced against their will because their mail won't get through otherwise) to use the mark. Conversely, if there are enough spammers forging the mark for Habeas to make all its income suing them, then the mark is useless for the purpose for which it was designed. Either way it seems to me that, after maybe a couple of lawsuits against real spammers and a lot of cease-and-desist letters to clueless Mom&Pops, then either (a) they're out of business, (b) they have to sell the rights to use the mark to increasingly questionable senders, or (c) they've both created and monopolized a market for "internet postage stamps" that everybody has to pay them for. The latter would be quite a coup if they [*] could pull it off -- they do absolutely nothing useful, unless you consider threatening people with lawsuits useful, yet still collect a fee either directly or indirectly from everyone on the internet -- effectively we'll be paying them for the privilege of policing their trademark for them. I don't believe they'll ever get that far, but I don't particularly want to help them make it. [*] And I use the term "they" loosely, because the whole company could consist of one lawyer if it really got to that point. ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf _______________________________________________ Spamassassin-talk mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk
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[ILUG] Looking for a file / directory in zip file Is there a way to look for a particular file or directory in 100's of zip files?? Something like zgrep but for the filename instead of a word Thanks Justin -- Irish Linux Users' Group: [email protected] http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. List maintainer: [email protected]
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Re: [ILUG] Looking for a file / directory in zip file -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Justin MacCarthy wrote: | Is there a way to look for a particular file or directory in 100's of zip | files?? | Something like zgrep but for the filename instead of a word | | Thanks Justin | | probably there are more elegant solutions, but if your zips are in one directory you can do something like for i in *.zip do if unzip -v $i | grep -q FILEYOUWANT then ~ echo $i fi done Cheers, Waider. - -- [email protected] / Yes, it /is/ very personal of me -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQEVAwUBPW5AmaHbXyzZsAb3AQH+qQgA1vnUjJUwGDa1yCRQd3vZAnhkCF0KDBBA o9MYq4CUg9cEzKALkTyZu4eOprhL50ReaICUGLMMEc5htU9zove4F+CSuvbAKKHL nx7xa6kk2V+LFnwS6hWpdQolCaT+4iGZZbdFwmyNAWb/IrEYB0R4gp05sitDOl5U RRlzYSM3IUYDrYpDUuX7Ta7bLvSdC1PpWSqy/wXphNIh7Bs2+eB9ERAujuqi6vJo MBichYb3f3teVCQUbxTcaMowjpmv/Xm3gdUlGrUFbpc2O7447Xi5uDfRexzzDoJT HlFS6OO2ZqzcMrtUYEgsfyqpaF1WuD38JoFpa2TmSyX74bBhxS8ecw== =KYCm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Irish Linux Users' Group: [email protected] http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. List maintainer: [email protected]
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[ILUG] Re: serial console...not quite working John P. Looney stated the following on Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 03:31:11PM +0100 : > I'm not sure what exactly is wrong with this, but I can't get a redhat > 7.1 box to use ttyS0 as a console. > > The relevant bits of /boot/grub/grub.conf are: > > serial --unit=0 --speed=115200 > terminal --timeout=2 console serial > title=linux > root (hd0,4) > kernel /boot/bzImage ro root=/dev/md0 console=ttyS0,115200n81 ^ That 1 is unneeded and is probably whats upsetting your kernel we use "console=ttyS0,9600n8" but the 9600 is mainly cos we are a cisco shop and its to keepo everyhting the same. Colin -- "Design" is like a religion - too much of it makes you inflexibly and unpopular. Linus Torvalds -- Irish Linux Users' Group: [email protected] http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. List maintainer: [email protected]
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Re: [ILUG] eircoms adsl modems Not true on the choice part. After three weeks of me telling eircom that I did not in fact need nor want their ?1800 worth of router and firewall nor their onsite survey... for the uncapped service I actually managed to get a 4 port modem (after asking for a 1 port modem) instead of ye olde hardware router & firewall and eircom onsite. I would have argued for the 1 port modem... (which I had asked for), but a Director wanted the DSL up ... and fast.... Still it only took me three weeks to get (almost) what I wanted.................................... -- Irish Linux Users' Group: [email protected] http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. List maintainer: [email protected]
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[IIU] Viruses and Bounced Mail All, Is it just me or has there been a massive increase in the amount of email being falsely bounced around the place? I've already received email from a number of people I don't know, asking why I am sending them email. These can be explained by servers from Russia and elsewhere. Coupled with the false emails I received myself, it's really starting to annoy me. Am I the only one seeing an increase in recent weeks? Martin ======================================================================== Martin Whelan | D�ise Design | www.deisedesign.com | Tel : 086-8888975 " Our core product D�iseditor � allows organisations to publish information to their web site in a fast and cost effective manner. There is no need for a full time web developer, as the site can be easily updated by the organisations own staff. Instant updates to keep site information fresh. Sites which are updated regularly bring users back. Visit www.deisedesign.com/deiseditor.html for a demonstration " D�iseditor � " Managing Your Information " ======================================================================== _______________________________________________ IIU mailing list [email protected] http://iiu.taint.org/mailman/listinfo/iiu
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[scoop] Scoop MS Word .doc file into something that plucker or other Palm app can display? I am wondering whether there's a way that I can use sitescooper and/or plucker or some other free utility to convert word documents into something a bit more palmos friendly? I don't have a Windows machine, so it becomes problematic to convert them; I know that if this were not the case, in Word I could save them as some other more friendly format. -- Tcl'2002 Sept 16, 2002, Vancouver, BC http://www.tcl.tk/community/tcl2002/ Larry W. Virden <mailto:[email protected]> <URL: http://www.purl.org/NET/lvirden/> Even if explicitly stated to the contrary, nothing in this posting should be construed as representing my employer's opinions. -><- ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf _______________________________________________ Sitescooper-talk mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/sitescooper-talk
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Re: [scoop] Scoop MS Word .doc file into something that plucker or other Palm app can display? Good Day! On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 05:10:47PM -0400, Larry W. Virden wrote: > I am wondering whether there's a way that I can use sitescooper and/or plucker > or some other free utility to convert word documents into something a bit > more palmos friendly? You could try antiword (http://www.winfield.demon.nl/linux/). It's consoled based and converts word 6+ docs to text and some images to postscript and png. You could also try openoffice and/or abiword if you have x installed. > I don't have a Windows machine, so it becomes problematic to convert them; > I know that if this were not the case, in Word I could save them as some > other more friendly format. Great! ;) Mabuhay! barryg -- Barry Dexter A. Gonzaga, bofh [email protected] ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf _______________________________________________ Sitescooper-talk mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/sitescooper-talk
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[use Perl] Headlines for 2002-08-30 use Perl Daily Headline Mailer Installing Perl 5.8.0 on Mac OS X 10.2 posted by pudge on Thursday August 29, @15:03 (releases) http://use.perl.org/article.pl?sid=02/08/29/193225 Copyright 1997-2002 pudge. All rights reserved. ====================================================================== You have received this message because you subscribed to it on use Perl. To stop receiving this and other messages from use Perl, or to add more messages or change your preferences, please go to your user page. http://use.perl.org/my/messages/ You can log in and change your preferences from there.
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Re: [scoop] Scoop MS Word .doc file into something that plucker or other Palm app can display? On Thu, 2002-08-29 at 19:27, Barry Dexter A. Gonzaga wrote: > On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 05:10:47PM -0400, Larry W. Virden wrote: > > I am wondering whether there's a way that I can use sitescooper and/or plucker > > or some other free utility to convert word documents into something a bit > > more palmos friendly? > > You could try antiword (http://www.winfield.demon.nl/linux/). > It's consoled based and converts word 6+ docs to text and some images to > postscript and png. also there's catdoc and wv for Word --> text conversions. actually, wv consists of wvWare, which as the manpage says "converts word documents into other formats such as PS, PDF, HTML, LaTeX, DVI, ABW". HTML would probably be the best format for use with Plucker/SiteScooper, depending on how good the DOC --> HTML conversion is. i haven't used either in over a year as AbiWord or OpenOffice work well enough. (prefer AbiWord for it's light-weight size, but OpenOffice has the better DOC importer.) don't know which of these are better or worse than the other, but i figure, "the more the merrier". ;-) > You could also try openoffice and/or abiword if you > have x installed. AbiWord supports exporting to PalmDoc (.pdb) which is about as PalmOS-friendly as you can get. never tried/needed it, but it's listed there in the "Save As" dialog box. Wine (or CrossOver Office, if you already have it) may support Word Viewer (free download from Microsoft), but didn't a year or so ago when i last tried. Word Viewer is what i used back in the day to convert Word 97 docs to Word 95, as you could display the Word 97 doc and copy & paste the text (with formatting) into Word 95, which was the only version of Word that i had. anyways, a little nostalgia. > > I don't have a Windows machine, so it becomes problematic to convert them; > > I know that if this were not the case, in Word I could save them as some > > other more friendly format. i have a windows (dual-boot) machine, but it only get used by my significant other and for burning multi-session cd-r/rw. (is there any linux gui app that supports cdrecord's multi-session feature?) since OpenOffice, i've been able to edit Word docs flawlessly (or at least the simple Word documents i receive from others). anyways... -- PLEASE REQUEST PERMISSION TO REDISTRIBUTE AUTHOR'S COMMENTS OR EMAIL ADDRESS. ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old cell phone? Get a new here for FREE! https://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1&refcode1=vs3390 _______________________________________________ Sitescooper-talk mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/sitescooper-talk
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Tiny DNS Swap (This list is sponsored by Ironclad Networks http://www.ironclad.net.au/) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00C1_01C25017.F2F04E20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm using Simple DNS from JHSoft. We support only a few web sites and = I'd like to swap secondary services with someone in a similar position. We have a static IP, DSL line and a 24/7 set of web, SQL, mail and now a = DNS server. As I said, we are hosting about 10 web sites, web and DNS = traffic is almost nothing. Everything is on lightly loaded APC battery = backups so we are very seldom down. I'd like to swap with someone also using Simple DNS to take advantage of = the trusted zone file transfer option. Bob Musser Database Services, Inc. Makers of: Process Server's Toolbox Courier Service Toolbox [email protected] www.dbsinfo.com 106 Longhorn Road Winter Park FL 32792 (407) 679-1539 ------=_NextPart_000_00C1_01C25017.F2F04E20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dwindows-1252"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2716.2200" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>I'm using Simple DNS from JHSoft.&nbsp; We support = only a few=20 web sites and I'd like to swap secondary services with someone in a = similar=20 position.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>We have a static IP, DSL line and a 24/7 set of web, = SQL, mail=20 and now a DNS server.&nbsp; As I said, we are hosting about 10 web = sites, web=20 and DNS traffic is almost nothing.&nbsp; Everything is on lightly loaded = APC=20 battery backups so we are very seldom down.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>I'd like to swap with someone also using Simple DNS = to take=20 advantage of the trusted zone file transfer option.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Bob Musser<BR>Database Services, Inc.<BR>Makers=20 of:<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; Process Server's Toolbox<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; Courier = Service=20 Toolbox<BR><A = href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A><BR><A=20 href=3D"http://www.dbsinfo.com">www.dbsinfo.com</A><BR>106 Longhorn = Road<BR>Winter=20 Park FL 32792<BR>(407) 679-1539</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_00C1_01C25017.F2F04E20-- -- To Unsubscribe: <[email protected]> Sponsor & Host: Ironclad Networks <http://www.ironclad.net.au/>
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Re: Tiny DNS Swap (This list is sponsored by Ironclad Networks http://www.ironclad.net.au/) --Apple-Mail-2-874629474 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Bob We are a commercial company who host around 150 web sites on each of it=20= servers, we can=B4t swap with you because we need someone in a similar=20= position. Thank you Javier El Viernes, 30 agosto, 2002, a las 10:25 AM, Bob Musser escribi=F3: > I'm using Simple DNS from JHSoft.=A0 We support only a few web sites = and=20 > I'd like to swap secondary services with someone in a similar > = position. > =A0 > We have a static IP, DSL line and a 24/7 set of web, SQL, mail and now=20= > a DNS server.=A0 As I said, we are hosting about 10 web sites, web and=20= > DNS traffic is almost nothing.=A0 Everything is on lightly loaded APC=20= > battery backups so we are very seldom down. > =A0 > I'd like to swap with someone also using Simple DNS to take advantage=20= > of the trusted zone file transfer option. > =A0 > =A0 > =A0 > Bob Musser > Database Services, Inc. > Makers of: > =A0=A0 Process Server's Toolbox > =A0=A0 Courier Service Toolbox > [email protected] > www.dbsinfo.com > 106 Longhorn Road > Winter Park FL 32792 > (407) 679-1539 > =A0 > =A0 > --- Atentamente Javier Cota Integraci=F3n tecnol=F3gica 52723341 [email protected] --Apple-Mail-2-874629474 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 Bob We are a commercial company who host around 150 web sites on each of it servers, we can=B4t swap with you because we need someone in a similar position. Thank you Javier=20 El Viernes, 30 agosto, 2002, a las 10:25 AM, Bob Musser escribi=F3: <excerpt><smaller>I'm using Simple DNS from JHSoft.=A0 We support only a few web sites and I'd like to swap secondary services with someone in a similar position.</smaller> =A0 <smaller>We have a static IP, DSL line and a 24/7 set of web, SQL, mail and now a DNS server.=A0 As I said, we are hosting about 10 web sites, web and DNS traffic is almost nothing.=A0 Everything is on lightly loaded APC battery backups so we are very seldom down.</smaller> =A0 <smaller>I'd like to swap with someone also using Simple DNS to take advantage of the trusted zone file transfer option.</smaller> =A0 =A0 =A0 <smaller>Bob Musser Database Services, Inc. Makers of: =A0=A0 Process Server's Toolbox =A0=A0 Courier Service Toolbox <underline><color><param>1999,1999,FFFF</param>[email protected] www.dbsinfo.com </color></underline>106 Longhorn Road Winter Park FL 32792 (407) 679-1539</smaller> =A0 =A0 </excerpt>--- Atentamente Javier Cota Integraci=F3n tecnol=F3gica 52723341 [email protected] --Apple-Mail-2-874629474-- -- To Unsubscribe: <[email protected]> Sponsor & Host: Ironclad Networks <http://www.ironclad.net.au/>
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NTK Now, 2002-08-30 _ _ _____ _ __ <*the* weekly high-tech sarcastic update for the uk> | \ | |_ _| |/ / _ __ __2002-08-30_ o join! mail an empty message to | \| | | | | ' / | '_ \ / _ \ \ /\ / / o [email protected] | |\ | | | | . \ | | | | (_) \ v v / o website (+ archive) lives at: |_| \_| |_| |_|\_\|_| |_|\___/ \_/\_/ o http://www.ntk.net/ "A case in point is web designer Matt Jones, the man responsible for how BBC News Online looked when it launched. Since then, he has invented 'warchalking', which he recently described as a 'curse'..." http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/2210091.stm - but you cannot turn against me! I... created you! >> HARD NEWS << stiffening sinews More hot summer days in the mailinglist alleyways, dangerously empty of sane postings, strewn with the rotting carcasses of broiling vacation messages. Hacktress and Silicon Valley's chief rat-keeper LILE ELAM, excitedly posts about a new open 802.11 network she's found. "I am here at the police station waiting to see a judge and I thought I would check to see if there is connectivity", she writes, somewhat recklessly, to the Bay Area Wireless list. Exit the rest of the Wifi community through the nearest window and out into the streets... where, cooling tempers, the Microsoft Palladium boys are on an endless summer tour, reassuring the experts that while, hmm, they *suppose* Pd could *theoretically* be used as a Hollywood DRM system, they truly have no plans to do any such thing. Cypherpunk and friend of freedom Lucky Green hears this; thinks up four or five of the obvious Palladium DRM implementations; sends them off to be patented in his name. Licensing funds, we imagine, will go on cracking his own DRMs. And so the mail loops on. http://lists.bawug.org/pipermail/wireless/2002-August/008507.html - administrivia: HI MOM, I'M IN JAIL http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg02554.html - Green/Palladium, like Green Kryptonite Could Lucky get himself arrested under the DMCA for distributing a circumvention device? Worse: now we have the EUCD incoming, could he here in the UK? Will Alan Cox go to jail for posting detailed Changelogs? Will even the nicest UK cryptographer (or curious garage tinkerer) find themselves hauled up under our new and scarily DMCAish copyright regime? Find out the facts at the free FAIR DEAL FOR COPYRIGHT conference, organised by the irrepressible FOUNDATION FOR INFORMATION POLICY RESEARCH for Wednesday 2002-09-18 at the London School of Economics. All the usual fun from the creators of the Scrambling for Safety crypto cons: we confidently predict government spokesmen caught in headlights, wanton Dave Bird heckling, some industry bigwig fighting off the audience with a broken chairleg, and other epiphenomena of the interzone between legal minds and hacker ethics. Oh, and FIPR are still looking for a Programme Director, so if you're interested, let them know. We suggested a convention raffle (first prize: the director's job, second prize: Ross Anderson as your personal slave for a day). They say there's some rule that would break, though. http://www.fipr.org/vacancy.html - doesn't the Foundation use psychohistory for filling these positions? For those of us who can't read the abbreviation EULA without thinking of Martian fighting machines and their "deafening howls... which roared like thunder", we're sorry to report that this weekend's multimedia performance of Jeff Wayne's WAR OF THE WORLDS has been postponed due to "health and safety issues". The event was to feature computer graphics, fireworks, "60ft-tall Martian fighting machines" wreaking "havoc and destruction", and - most terrifyingly of all - the possibility of a David Essex tribute singer performing with Hawkwind, but UKP18 tickets for the Sat 2002-08-31 show at Manchester's Heaton Park will still be valid at a range of new venues next summer. Ironically, the Martians' original invasion plans were similarly thwarted by health and safety issues, "slain after all man's devices had failed by the humblest creatures that God, in his wisdom, has put upon this earth: bacteria. Minute, invisible, bacteria. For, directly the invaders arrived and drank and fed, our microscopic allies attacked them..." http://www.waroftheworlds.info/postpone.htm - "...From that moment, they were doomed." >> ANTI-NEWS << berating the obvious moving on from PUERILE GOOGLE MISSPELLINGS, weird search-and- replace artefact: http://www.google.com/search?q=consideyellow , Japanese fan sites for "plince", "steery dan", "def reppard" et al, plus the 18,000 or more self-referential Usenet .sigs: http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22get+random+signatures%22 ...http://www.colocation-network.com/ "Zerodowntime" ad leads to: http://www.ntk.net/2002/08/30/dohzero.gif ... slightly harsh alt text: http://www.ntk.net/2002/08/30/dohover.gif ... US military discovers the only "translator" those bastards seem to understand: http://www.ntk.net/2002/08/30/dohgun.gif ... scary blue men herald return of the bizarre BBC hacking pics: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/1494091.stm ... reporter RYAN DILLEY http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/2202552.stm pulls his http://starwars.org.pl/galeria/e2/char/anakin/t001.jpg face ... banjo maestro GEORGE FORMBY still alive, cooking, black: http://www.readersheds.co.uk/readersheds/shop.cfm?WOSNAMES=Wosnames ... thanks guys, that ought to do it: http://www.eap.ca/ ... >> EVENT QUEUE << goto's considered non-harmful Controversially, we're all in favour of THE GUARDIAN GREAT BRITISH BLOG COMPETITION (closing date next Fri 2002-09-06, first prize UKP1000, entry free), in that any initiative that encourages this notoriously primadonna-ish "community" to try and engage with real-world notions of editorial quality surely has to be a good thing. Our only disappointment is that The Guardian appears to be focussing on the "best" of the entries, when everyone knows the real fun is to be had cruising the truly terrible examples that the genre has to offer, mentally allocating points for "Most Depressing Recycling Of Daypop Top 40 URLs", "Most Unsettling Revelations About Personal Life", plus of course "Most Tedious Linking/Reciprocal Linking To Other Bloggers In Absence Of Having Anything Interesting To Say". http://www.guardian.co.uk/weblog/bestbritishblog/ - "A strange game, Professor Falken..." http://media.guardian.co.uk/newmedia/comment/0,7496,765161,00.html - "...the only winning move is not to play." >> TRACKING << sufficiently advanced technology : the gathering The respective trademark holders will hate this, but Windows really *is* like the Sun. You have this big hulking mass of concentrated power in the middle, with a few small orbiting utilities - like WinZip, and PuTTY, and VNC. Occasionally one will get a bit too close to the OS, and Microsoft will suck it down and turn it into fuel for the System. One such discrete satellite remains FILEZILLA, the still-necessary ftp gui client for Windows. Those who know it won't need the introduction, although they might appreciate the note that it's getting close to v2.0 time. For dogged WS_FTP users, though, it's got multiple downloads, auto-restart of interrupted 'loads, queuing, and sftp and Kerberos support. It's also GPL'd which makes it a nice bit of source for anyone wanting to grok Win32 networking from something that works. http://filezilla.sf.net/ - talking of trademarks, will the Godzilla people strike before MS? >> MEMEPOOL << ceci n'est pas une http://www.gagpipe.com/ (Not safe for work) next year's RED NOSE DAY looks more fun than usual: http://www.threepillows.com/tour2.htm ... Mirrored Disaster Recovery Suite - to go with mirrored bathroom etc?: http://www.dovebid.com/Auctions/AuctionDetail.asp?AuctionID=1450 ... and then the kid can take you to court for mental cruelty: http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/ptech/08/27/turok.baby.reut/ ... "funny" prefixes in front of "chalking" #n+1 - the actually quite pragmatic: http://www.pinkbunny.co.uk/poochalking/ ... no longer knowing - or caring - if these are prank AMAZON reviews or not, for Potter's ever-popular "vibrating" broom: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/stores/detail/-/toys/B00005NEBW/ ... ditto "Use This Software At Your Own Risk" disclaimer for: http://www.palmgear.com/software/showsoftware.cfm?prodID=41030 ... DAFFY DUCK appears in dock - accused of "dethpicable" behaviour?: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2223065.stm , http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_659889.html ... >> GEEK MEDIA << get out less TV>> celebrity cameo night tonight, with Brad Pitt in FRIENDS (9pm, Fri, C4), Sydney Pollack in WILL AND GRACE (9.30pm, Fri, C4), Dustin Hoffman in V GRAHAM NORTON (10.30pm, Fri, C4), and a singing, dancing peanut in globalised trade documentary ALT- TV (7.30pm, Fri, C4)... the BBC have kept McEnroe and the heart monitor, got rid of the live crocodiles in gimmicky quizshow THE CHAIR (6.40pm, Sat, BBC1)... and a month of "September 11th" specials kicks off with AVENGING TERROR (8pm, Sat & Sun, C4) - yet those responsible for BOWFINGER (9pm, Sat, C4) and NOTTING HILL (9pm, Sun, C4) still remain unpunished... John "The Last Seduction" Dahl's ROUNDERS (11pm, Sat, BBC2) turns out to be about high-stakes poker, rather than the girls' version of baseball... in the wake of DAVE GORMAN'S IMPORTANT ASTROLOGY EXPERIMENT (10.40pm, Sun, BBC2), how about a three-way challenge where he, Tony Hawks and Pete McCarthy battle to come up with the most lucrative pointless pretext for a book and TV show?... but we still have a soft spot for Ron "Alien: Resurrection" Perlman liberal self- flagellation THE LAST SUPPER (11.20pm, Sun, C4)... 9/11 CLEAR THE SKIES (9pm, Sun, BBC2) is a presumably uneventful account of "how US air defence systems responded to the events of September 11th"... inexplicably, the three finalists in THE TARTIEST MEN IN BRITAIN (10.30pm, Mon, ITV) all come from Leeds... Larry Clark takes a somewhat indirect approach to conveying his safe-sex message in New York filth-fest KIDS (1.15am, Tue, C4)... and the September 11th build-up continues with HOW THE TWIN TOWERS COLLAPSED (8pm, Mon, C4), LET'S ROLL: THE STORY OF FLIGHT 93 (10.30pm, Wed, ITV), plus THE MEYSSAN CONSPIRACY (11.05pm, Tue, C4) - ie the French guy behind: http://www.asile.org/citoyens/numero13/pentagone/erreurs_en.htm ... away from the polluted nightmare of modern living, a family seek out a new way of life in Earth Summit tie-in A LAND WORTH LOVING (7pm, Wed, BBC1)... which coincidentally also forms the plot of this week's second Heather "Bowfinger" Graham turkey, LOST IN SPACE (7.55pm, Wed, BBC1) - not to be confused with the return of those annoying posh women in WORLD'S WORST DRESSED (8pm, Wed, BBC2), who have at least shut up about their always-doomed hideously purple e-commerce site: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/712188.stm ... FILM>> the comic skills of Cameron Diaz, Christina Applegate and Parker Posey combine in a cross between a teen smut comedy and an episode of "Sex And The City", THE SWEETEST THING ( http://www.screenit.com/movies/2002/the_sweetest_thing.html : As [Diaz] and [Applegate] drive down the road still dressed in just their bras and underwear, [Applegate] drops her bottle of fingernail polish. [Diaz] then goes over to get it, with her panty-covered butt in the air and her head down toward [Applegate]'s legs and crotch; [Selma Blair] [has] her mouth stuck around a man's privates after apparently performing oral sex on him)... Robin Williams plays a surprisingly convincing Hannibal Lecter in morally complicated Alaskan Al Pacino murder madness INSOMNIA ( http://www.cndb.com/ : You can see [Crystal Lowe's] tits in autopsy photos and again - along with bush - when she's seen on a autopsy table. Nice boobs but she's dead)... it's Eddie Murphy, Randy Quaid, Jay "Jerry Maguire" Mohr, John Cleese and Pam Grier - together at last! - in blaxploitation sci-fi spoof THE ADVENTURES OF PLUTO NASH ( http://www.screenit.com/movies/2002/the_adventures_of_pluto_nash.html : the woman then causes the image of [Rosario "Kids" Dawson] to suddenly have much larger breasts and an exaggeratedly large rear end)... all of which, shockingly, are an improvement on John Woo interspersing lame battle scenes with agonising anti- racist philosophising in WW2 Navajo crypto clunker WINDTALKERS ( http://www.capalert.com/capreports/windtalkers.htm : gambling; beheading; brief partial nudity of a Japanese soldier; I have no doubt that such gore is present in war but must it be regurgitated in and as entertainment?)... >> SMALL PRINT << Need to Know is a useful and interesting UK digest of things that happened last week or might happen next week. You can read it on Friday afternoon or print it out then take it home if you have nothing better to do. It is compiled by NTK from stuff they get sent. Registered at the Post Office as "yeah, but bet we were banned first" http://www.b3ta.com/newsletter/issue54/ NEED TO KNOW THEY STOLE OUR REVOLUTION. NOW WE'RE STEALING IT BACK. Archive - http://www.ntk.net/ Unsubscribe? Mail [email protected] Subscribe? Mail [email protected] NTK now is supported by UNFORTU.NET, and by you: http://www.geekstyle.co.uk/ (K) 2002 Special Projects. Copying is fine, but include URL: http://www.ntk.net/ Tips, news and gossip to [email protected] All communication is for publication, unless you beg. Press releases from naive PR people to [email protected] Remember: Your work email may be monitored if sending sensitive material. Sending >500KB attachments is forbidden by the Geneva Convention. Your country may be at risk if you fail to comply.
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find the bug //this function should print all numbers up to 100... void print_nums() { int i; for(i = 0; i < 10l; i++) { printf("%d\n",i); } }
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Re: Tiny DNS Swap (This list is sponsored by Ironclad Networks http://www.ironclad.net.au/) Hello! Friday, August 30, 2002, 7:25:31 PM Bob Musser <[email protected]> wrote: [lost] BM> I'd like to swap with someone also using Simple DNS to take BM> advantage of the trusted zone file transfer option. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Are you speaking about limiting AXFR requests on IP address basis? If yes, then virtually every BIND-equipped DNS server in the world will be suitable for your needs. -- Yours sincerely, Andrey G. Sergeev (AKA Andris) http://www.andris.msk.ru/ -- To Unsubscribe: <[email protected]> Sponsor & Host: Ironclad Networks <http://www.ironclad.net.au/>
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[Ximian Updates] Hyperlink handling in Gaim allows arbitrary code to be executed Severity: Security Product: gaim Keywords: gaim hyperlink manual References: CAN-2002-0989 http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CAN-2002-0989 Gaim Changelog http://gaim.sourceforge.net/ChangeLog Gaim is an instant messaging client based on the published TOC protocol from AOL. The developers of Gaim, an instant messenger client that combines several different networks, found a vulnerability in the hyperlink handling code. The 'Manual' browser command passes an untrusted string to the shell without escaping or reliable quoting, permitting an attacker to execute arbitrary commands on the users machine. Unfortunately, Gaim doesn't display the hyperlink before the user clicks on it. Users who use other inbuilt browser commands aren't vulnerable. The fixed version of Gaim no longer passes the user's manual browser command to the shell. Commands which contain the %s in quotes will need to be amended, so they don't contain any quotes. The 'Manual' browser command can be edited in the 'General' pane of the 'Preferences' dialog, which can be accessed by clicking 'Options' from the login window, or 'Tools' and then 'Preferences' from the menu bar in the buddy list window. Please download Gaim 0.59.1 or later using Red Carpet. You may also obtain this update from the Ximian FTP site. Debian Potato ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/debian-potato-i386/gaim_0.59.1-1.ximian.2_i386.deb ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/debian-potato-i386/gaim-common_0.59.1-1.ximian.2_i386.deb ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/debian-potato-i386/gaim-gnome_0.59.1-1.ximian.2_i386.deb Mandrake 8.0 ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/mandrake-80-i586/gaim-0.59.1-1.ximian.2.i586.rpm Mandrake 8.1 ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/mandrake-81-i586/gaim-0.59.1-1.ximian.2.i586.rpm Mandrake 8.2 ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/mandrake-82-i586/gaim-0.59.1-1.ximian.2.i586.rpm Redhat 6.2 ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/redhat-62-i386/gaim-0.59.1-1.ximian.2.i386.rpm ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/redhat-62-i386/gaim-applet-0.59.1-1.ximian.2.i386.rpm Redhat 7.0 ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/redhat-70-i386/gaim-0.59.1-1.ximian.2.i386.rpm ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/redhat-70-i386/gaim-applet-0.59.1-1.ximian.2.i386.rpm Redhat 7.1 ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/redhat-71-i386/gaim-0.59.1-1.ximian.2.i386.rpm ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/redhat-71-i386/gaim-applet-0.59.1-1.ximian.2.i386.rpm Redhat 7.2 ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/redhat-72-i386/gaim-0.59.1-1.ximian.2.i386.rpm ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/redhat-72-i386/gaim-applet-0.59.1-1.ximian.2.i386.rpm Redhat 7.3 ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/redhat-73-i386/gaim-0.59.1-1.ximian.2.i386.rpm ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/redhat-73-i386/gaim-applet-0.59.1-1.ximian.2.i386.rpm Solaris 7/8 ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/solaris-7-sun4/gaim-0.59.1-2.ximian.1.sparc.rpm SuSE 7.1 ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/suse-71-i386/gaim-0.59.1-1.ximian.2.i386.rpm ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/suse-71-i386/gaim-applet-0.59.1-1.ximian.2.i386.rpm SuSE 7.2 ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/suse-72-i386/gaim-0.59.1-1.ximian.2.i386.rpm ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/suse-72-i386/gaim-applet-0.59.1-1.ximian.2.i386.rpm SuSE 7.3 ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/suse-73-i386/gaim-0.59.1-1.ximian.2.i386.rpm ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/suse-73-i386/gaim-applet-0.59.1-1.ximian.2.i386.rpm SuSE 8.0 ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/suse-80-i386/gaim-0.59.1-1.ximian.2.i386.rpm ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/suse-80-i386/gaim-applet-0.59.1-1.ximian.2.i386.rpm Yellowdog 2.0 ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/yellowdog-20-ppc/gaim-0.59.1-1.ximian.2.ppc.rpm ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/yellowdog-20-ppc/gaim-applet-0.59.1-1.ximian.2.ppc.rpm Yellowdog 2.1 ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/yellowdog-21-ppc/gaim-0.59.1-1.ximian.2.ppc.rpm ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/yellowdog-21-ppc/gaim-applet-0.59.1-1.ximian.2.ppc.rpm Yellowdog 2.2 ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/yellowdog-22-ppc/gaim-0.59.1-1.ximian.2.ppc.rpm ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/yellowdog-22-ppc/gaim-applet-0.59.1-1.ximian.2.ppc.rpm _______________________________________________ updates maillist - [email protected] To unsubscribe from this list, or to change your subscription options, follow the link below: http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/updates
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alsa-driver rebuild fails with undeclared USB symbol I am trying to rebuild the recently posted ALSA driver package for my kernel. Although I run Red Hat 7.3, I am not using a Red Hat kernel package: my kernel is lovingly downloaded, configured, and built by hand. Call me old fashioned. Sadly, the RPM rebuild fails part way through: % rpm --rebuild alsa-driver-0.9.0rc3-fr6.src.rpm gcc -DALSA_BUILD -D__KERNEL__ -DMODULE=1 \ -I/usr/src/redhat/BUILD/alsa-driver-0.9.0rc3/include \ -I/lib/modules/2.4.18/build/include -O2 \ -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -march=i686 -DLINUX -Wall \ -Wstrict-prototypes -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -DEXPORT_SYMTAB \ -c sound.c sound.c:41: `snd_hack_usb_set_interface' undeclared here (not in a \ function) sound.c:41: initializer element is not constant sound.c:41: (near initialization for \ __ksymtab_snd_hack_usb_set_interface.value') make[1]: *** [sound.o] Error 1 The line in question looks like this: /* USB workaround */ #if LINUX_VERSION_CODE < KERNEL_VERSION(2, 5, 24) #if defined(CONFIG_SND_USB_AUDIO) || \ defined(CONFIG_SND_USB_AUDIO_MODULE) || \ defined(CONFIG_SND_USB_MIDI) || \ defined(CONFIG_SND_USB_MIDI_MODULE) -41-> EXPORT_SYMBOL(snd_hack_usb_set_interface); #endif #endif Any suggestions? _______________________________________________ RPM-List mailing list <[email protected]> http://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list
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Re: The case for spam --------------080808010909060409040405 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bill Stoddard wrote: >>No one likes commercial spam. >> >> >And no one like unsolicited political spam. End of story. > >Bill >http://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork > > Except perhaps for the people in charge. Owen http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1105-954903.html *Political spam on your cell phone?* By Lisa M. Bowman <mailto:[email protected]> Special to ZDNet News August 22, 2002, 12:05 PM PT URL: http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1105-954909.html <%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1105-954909.html%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20> *In a decision that treats text messaging on mobile phones essentially the same as bumper stickers, the Federal Election Commission has declared that senders of text-based political ads don't have to disclose who funded them.* In an advisory opinion issued Thursday, the FEC also suggested such messages include either a phone number or Web site link, so people could easily learn who paid for the message. However, the additional information won't be required. The opinion could encourage the adoption of text-based political ads, as campaign experts look for new technological ways to sway voters. At the same time, opponents of the plan fear it could lead to anonymous political spam. Target Wireless, a small New Jersey-based wireless media company, had asked the FEC for an opinion on the matter, saying that requiring financial disclosures on short messaging service (SMS) mailings would use up too much of the 160 character-maximum. Political messages on bumper stickers and buttons are also exempt from the financial disclosure requirement. Target Wireless' petition was supported by the National Republican Senatorial Committee, the Cellular Telecommunications and Internet Association, and some advertising trade groups. FEC spokesman Bob Biersack said the opinion was in keeping with the commission's policy not to meddle with new technology that has the potential to reach more voters. "We have tried very hard not to get in the way--particularly before everyone understands how the technology is going to work," he said. Opponents of the plan have worried the exemption might encourage spam or allow senders to blast people with mass amounts of negative political messages while remaining anonymous. Biersack said the FEC can revisit the issue if those problems surface. Target Wireless President Craig Krueger characterized the opinion as "good for America." "It will allow people to receive more communication from those running for office," he said. "We have free speech on our side." --------------080808010909060409040405-- http://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork
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Re: Entrepreneurs On Fri, 23 Aug 2002, Robert Harley wrote: --]Next time I hear a joke, I promise not to laugh until I have checked --]out primary sources for confirmation in triplicate, OK? Oh please. Walking sideways like that is bad for your shoes. Though it is kinda cute when you get all reasonomatic bang bang have a nice day. http://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork
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Re: The case for spam Dan Brickley wrote: > Except that thanks to the magic of spam, it's usually some else's locale yeah, physical mail makes more sense for physical locales. > There are better technical solutions to privacy > protection than sending a copy of the same message to everyone on the > Internet, so the recipients can't be blamed for reading it. Such as? Anything equivalent will be spam, just not email spam. Dump entry IPs for an anonymizing network onto a public bulletin board that's used for other purposes -- still spam. Etc etc. I'm not arguing against other solutions, I'm arguing that spam is speech. If you let governments ban it, you're giving them the power to choose who gets to speak. - Lucas http://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork
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Re: The case for spam me: > >Spam is *the* tool for dissident news, since the fact that it's unsolicited > >means that recipients can't be blamed for being on a mailing list. > Russell Turpin: > That depends on how the list is collected, or > even on what the senders say about how the list > is collected. Better to just put it on a website, > and that way it can be surfed anonymously. AND > it doesn't clutter my inbox. It doesn't work that way. A website is opt-in, spam is no-opt. If you visit a samizdat site you can get in trouble. If you get samizdat spam, the worst that can be said is that you might have read it. And as long as the mailers send to individuals who clearly didn't opt-in, like party officials, then other recipients can't get in trouble for requesting the mail. Plus, it's much harder to block spam than web sites. But this shouldn't come as a surprize. Spam is speech. It may be sleazy, but so what. - Lucas http://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork
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GPL limits put to a test XviD [1] is a project to make GPL divx codecs. Sigma Designs [1] is a company looking to put out hardware to playback, amongst other things, divx files. Problem is Sigma is using XviDs gpled code in ways not very gpl. The results....XviD stops work on thier code and ask the users to put preasure on Sigma to honor the GPL. Some notes from other places.... >>From Doom9 [3] "XviD development has been stopped! The Sigma Designs REALMagic MPEG-4 Video Codec contains wide portions of code taken from the XviD project. Soon after the initial release of the REALMagic codec the XviD developers have contacted Sigma and informed them about the GPL violation (for those who don't know, XviD is distributed under the GNU Public License - GPL - which demands that if you modify a GPL program you have to release it under the GPL, which in this case means that the source code of the Sigma codec must be freely available). Sigma promised to replace the stolen code, but the new version of the codec which was released this month only disguises the stolen code, it was not actually removed. Sigma was once again contacted and asked to remove the offending code but until today nothing has happened. Therefore the XviD team is now turning to the public in the hope to receive wide public support in their efforts to convince Sigma Designs to respect the terms of the GPL. And until the matter has been resolved XviD development will not continue. That being said I hope all the forum members who saw their threads about the Sigma Codecs being closed will understand our motivation now. Internally we already knew what was going on but since the XviD authors first wanted to try and resolve this internally we respected their wishes and kept quiet about the matter at hand. [Update] Sigma has issued a press release announcing the availability of the source code of their MPEG-4 codec and it's already up for download. However, not a word was lost about the XviD issue and the press release makes one think that the Sigma codec was entirely developed by Sigma so we might be hearing more about this. [Update] I found a GPL notice in some of the source code files, but it also looks like Sigma placed their own copyright lines there and XviD doesn't get any credit in the source either. The GPL notice also collides with Sigma's Software Licensing Agreement that you have to sign before downloading codec or source. On on the same issue DivXNetworks said they'd fully support XviD in this issue and apparently DXn's relationship with Sigma didn't really work out either, as Sigma's Xcard is not as DivX compatible as it was advertised. [Update]First an update on the XviD situation. The release of the Sigma source code does not mean it's all over, it's far from being over. The license agreement which you have to agree to before you can download, and install the codec is not compatible with the GPL. Furthermore, it can now clearly be seen (download the source code and have a look for yourself) that the Sigma codec is pretty much a copy of the XviD codec, but all the copyright notices of the original developers have been removed and replaced. This does not only violate the GPL but copyright laws - you can't just take a program, change a few lines and change the copyright statements, you only have copyright protection for the parts you wrote on your own. And related to this the Sigma codec also contains code taken from the OpenDivX project, the files were outfitted with 2 different copyright notices which is quite funny." [1] http://www.xvid.org/ [2] http://www.sigmadesigns.com [3] http://www.doom9.org/ http://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork
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Re: The case for spam > Russell Turpin: > > That depends on how the list is collected, or > > even on what the senders say about how the list > > is collected. Senders should vary the recipient list to include non-targets, like party officials, and to exclude targets enough to give them plausible deniability. - Lucas http://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork
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Re: [vox] GPL limits put to a test On Fri, 23 Aug 2002, Tom wrote: --] --]XviD [1] is a project to make GPL divx codecs. Sigma Designs [1] is a Sorry, Sigma Designs should be the [2] not the [1] http://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork
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The GOv gets tough on Net Users.....er Pirates.. from http://www.arstechnica.com/ "There has mostly been talk thus far and little action, but the Department of Justice says it may be ready to file criminal lawsuits against individuals [1] who distribute or receive unauthorized copyrighted material over the Internet. Deputy Assistant Attorney General John Malcolm believes that "criminal prosecutions of copyright offenders are now necessary to preserve the viability of America's content industries." Malcolm also believes that people who trade copyrighted material think they are participating in a legal activity. I certainly think people who download copyrighted works understand that such distribution--barring provisions such as fair use--is not authorized, and it is not surprising to see businesses continue to look for means to discourage distribution of copyrighted works. "Some prosecutions that make that clear could be very helpful...I think they would think twice if they thought there was a risk of criminal prosecution," said [RIAA President Cary] Sherman, who was on the same conference panel. I'm not too confident that lawsuits would have the effect Sherman is hoping for. Although infrequent, there have already been civil suits or warnings issued to private individuals, and they have served as minor deterrents to the file-sharing community at large. Criminal lawsuits carrying with them the possibility of prison sentences may generate further animosity against groups such as the RIAA and may be difficult to initiate because of the "schooling" effect of millions of systems participating in file sharing. Only servers would seem to stand out from the crowd. The article cites the No Electronic Theft (NET) Act [2], which defines illegal activity and maximum penalties for copyright infringement: Criminal infringement: Any person who infringes a copyright willfully for purposes of commercial advantage or private financial gain, or by the reproduction or distribution, including by electronic means, during any 180-day period, of 1 or more copies or phonorecords of 1 or more copyrighted works, which have a total retail value of more than $1,000.... For purposes of this subsection, evidence of reproduction or distribution of a copyrighted work, by itself, shall not be sufficient to establish willful infringement. ... The term "financial gain" includes receipt, or expectation of receipt, of anything of value, including the receipt of other copyrighted works. Therefore, receipt of a work of value would be defined as "financial gain" even if no money is involved. The NET Act excerpt does not clarify how the value of a work is determined; an album or movie could be worth only $15 to millions of dollars depending on whether the value is assessed from the perspective of the consumer or copyright holder. The statute of limitations: 507. Limitations on actions (a) Criminal Proceedings.--No criminal proceeding shall be maintained under the provisions of this title unless it is commenced within five years after the cause of action arose. (b) Civil Actions.--No civil action shall be maintained under the provisions of this title unless it is commenced within three years after the claim accrued. The penalties are too extensive to list here, but they can be found in Section 2319: Criminal infringement of a copyright. In general, first-time criminal offenses will carry a maximum prison sentence of 1 year. I'm still not sure where the DOJ would start in choosing people to prosecute because of the aforementioned "schooling" effect, but my guess would be that, just like speeding, primarily the most prominent individuals who operate large servers or transfer the most data will be targeted in order to discourage more recreational file sharers. Thanks to MonaLisaOverdrive for pointing out this story. " [1] http://news.com.com/2100-1023-954591.html?tag=fd_top [2] http://www.usdoj.gov/criminal/cybercrime/17-18red.htm http://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork
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Re: The GOv gets tough on Net Users.....er Pirates.. On Fri, 23 Aug 2002, Tom wrote: > from http://www.arstechnica.com/ > > "There has mostly been talk thus far and little action, but the > Department of Justice says it may be ready to file criminal lawsuits > against individuals [1] who distribute or receive unauthorized > copyrighted material over the Internet. And yet STILL noone is out there creating _public domain_ content. Is there even one person out there can can even begin to talk without being a complete hypocrite? And no the "open source" people cant talk either, the GPL aint even close. I know I cant talk. If the creator didnt say you could have it without paying, it's theft, so simple, hell that's even in all the major holy books. Fair use needs to be clarified a bit and then I hope they start locking people up. How else do i ever have hope of finding a job working for someone that makes things people are supposed to ... *drumroll* pay for. - Adam L. "Duncan" Beberg http://www.mithral.com/~beberg/ [email protected] http://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork
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Re: Java is for kiddies Reza B'Far (eBuilt) wrote: > problems.... Why do most computer scientists insist on solving the same > problems over and over again when there are some many more important and > interesting problems (high level) to be solved ????? Amen! Doing it in an (unecessarily) harder way does NOT make you more of a man (or less of a kiddie). - Joe
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package my stuff please :P If I have any RPMS in http://www.dudex.net/rpms/ that could be useful to some one with a real apt repository or someone who wants to maintain a package, be it known I am not selfish :) I found stuff I thought would later get popular so I would not have to maintain the RPMs for them after they hit the big time. Gnump3d is an exapmple of this. So if anyone is psyched, go for it. If so, let me know so I can get the RPMs from you in the future. -- That's "angle" as in geometry. _______________________________________________ RPM-List mailing list <[email protected]> http://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list
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RE: Java is for kiddies On Sun, 1 Sep 2002, Reza B'Far (eBuilt) wrote: > 2. C and C++ forces the developer to solve problems such as memory > management over and over again. IMHO, Java is superior because the problem > of programming in the future is not about 0's and 1's, making the compiler > 2% faster, or making your code take 5% less memory... It's about design > patterns, architecture, high level stuff... Considering 90% of the fake job posting I see are for embedded systems or device drivers - C still rules the world. > 3. Java is not just a programming language! It's also a platform... There > is NOTHING like the standard API's in Java in C and C++. Everyone defines > their own API's, people end up solving the same problems ten different ways The problem is the problem you're trying to solve is never the same. Java will soon suffer API-rot (alot of poeple are already complaining about it), it's just new. C was clean in the beginning too. API-rot is PURELY a function of age. > 4. If you have a program of any type of high complexity written in C, you > can't possibly think that you could port it to different platforms within > the same magnitude of cost as Java.... I do this all the time, It's alot easier then you think if the original programmer had a clue at all... Java does remove the clue requirement tho, just adds a huge testing requirement, QA guys aren't as cheap ;) > 5. Makes no sense for a scientific or a business project to depend on a > person... Java, IMHO, reduces the dependence of these entities on the > individual developer as it is much easier to reverse engineer Java as it is > to reverse engineer C (large applications). No it's not, but you can hire teams of Javites for cheap at your local high school. Java is about cutting costs and commoditizing programming - and it's working! - Adam L. "Duncan" Beberg http://www.mithral.com/~beberg/ [email protected]
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Re: Java is for kiddies > > 6. Hardware is getting so fast that I'm not sure if the performance > difference between Java and C/C++ are relevant any more. When out-of-the-box parsing & transform of XML in java is 25x slower than C++ on the same hardware then it does matter.
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RE: Java is for kiddies Adam Beberg: >Considering 90% of the fake job posting I see are for embedded systems or >device drivers - C still rules the world. There is a lot of C++ in the embedded world. With static object allocation and a few other programming techniques, performance differences disappear, but C++ gives a boost in development and maintainability. The real issue is compiler availability. Almost every embedded platform has C cross-compilers. Many have C++ compilers. But there is still a range of platforms that have the first but not the second. Or at least, that was the story a few years ago. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com
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Re: [ILUG] Seconds to date? On Sun, Sep 01, 2002 at 04:14:17PM +0100, Paul Jakma mentioned: > On Sun, 1 Sep 2002, kevin lyda wrote: > > > gnu date is limited by time_t. but i thought time_t expired in 2037? > > this seems to show it expiring in 2038: > > (2^31-1)/3600/24/365+1970 > 2038 > > course, on UltraSparc, x86-64, IA64, alpha, etc: > > (2^63-1)/3600/24/365+1970 > 292471210647 > > so we should be safe enough. May I assume that x86-64 will be able to use a 64bit time_t too? Kate -- Irish Linux Users' Group: [email protected] http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. List maintainer: [email protected]
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RE: Java is for kiddies On Mon, 2 Sep 2002, Russell Turpin wrote: > Adam Beberg: > >Considering 90% of the fake job posting I see are for embedded systems or > >device drivers - C still rules the world. > > There is a lot of C++ in the embedded world. With static object > allocation and a few other programming techniques, performance > differences disappear, but C++ gives a boost in development and > maintainability. Agreed, not much difference there. With C it just doesnt seem as wrong to be crawling around in registers and things. Quite frankly you cant fit _that_ big of a project into a 32K ROM, so large project issues dont matter as much in the embedded world. And in the realtime space, or when you have data coming in at 2Gbit/sec [fibrechannel], every cycle DOES count. > The real issue is compiler availability. Almost every embedded platform > has C cross-compilers. Many have C++ compilers. But there is still a > range of platforms that have the first but not the second. Or at least, > that was the story a few years ago. Definately still very very true. C++ compilers are still a rarity. - Adam L. "Duncan" Beberg http://www.mithral.com/~beberg/ [email protected]
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[ILUG] Can I be added to your email distribution lists? Dell Quinn Account Executive Fleishman-Hillard Saunders 15 Fitzwilliam Quay Dublin 4 Ireland Tel: 01 6188428 Fax: 01 6602244 Mobile: 086 6048101 -- Irish Linux Users' Group: [email protected] http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. List maintainer: [email protected]
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RE: Java is for kiddies Reza B'Far wrote: >This thread kind of surprises me... I started coding with C, then C++, and >moved on to Java... And, I think that: Looks like a case of "MY experience is comprehensive, YOUR'S is anecdotal, THEY don't know what they're talking about". >1. The people who pay the wages don't give a flyin' heck what programming >language you write things in... they just want it to work. In my experience, they do care. It has to work certainly, and in particular it has to work with what they've already got, and it has to work on client's systems. My limited experience of Java started a few years ago when support on Linux was so terrible that I ran away screaming and haven't come back yet. Microsoft has announced that they plan to remove Java from Windows. They took it out of XP already and it has to be installed with a service pack. Somehow, I can't imagine them removing the ability to run C programs. >2. C and C++ forces the developer to solve problems such as memory >management over and over again. Can't say I spend any noticeable amount of time on memory management issues, apart from the fact that I frequently need > 4 GB. >It's about design patterns, architecture, high level stuff... If your problem just requires application of a "design pattern" to solve, then it's trivial anyway irrespective of language. >I am amazed by the amount of time wasted by people talking about low >level problems that have been solved 10 million times over and over >and over again... You appear to be gratuitously asserting that C programmers waste time on irrelevant low-level problems and Java programmers don't. Depends entirely on the programmer, not the language. >3. Java is not just a programming language! It's also a platform... Buzzword. >a monolithic set of API's or a crap load of different API's slicing >and dicing the same problems 50 different ways? Unsupported assertion. >4. If you have a program of any type of high complexity written in C, you >can't possibly think that you could port it to different platforms within >the same magnitude of cost as Java.... Dunno. E.g., I ported a wee 15000-line C program to Darwin on PowerPC in a few minutes yesterday. Sure if it was badly designed it would be 10 times the size and harder to port. If it depended on unavailable libraries it would be much harder. Portable code is easy to port. At least that is the case when then language you used is available on the target platform: I also run on ARM systems with no proper Java. >5. Makes no sense for a scientific or a business project to depend on a >person... Java, IMHO, reduces the dependence of these entities on the >individual developer as it is much easier to reverse engineer Java as it is >to reverse engineer C (large applications). You can pay a good programmer to solve your problem now, or else get some kids to hack spaghetti Fortran in any language and then pay for maintenance headaches ad infinitum. >6. Hardware is getting so fast that I'm not sure if the performance >difference between Java and C/C++ are relevant any more. Whoah!!! Performance matters to me every day. (Right now I'm taking time out to write email while waiting for a job to run). Sure I could wait 5 years until everyone's PC is fast enough to generate random EC's in no time, when any twit will be able to program inefficient code that is fast enough and the market will be overrun by competitors, or I can do it now when very few people can. >The end goal is the scientific or business problem to be solved. Yes. >And for those problems, languages such as Java, SmallTalk, and others >allow you to think more high level than low level. Thinking of bits >and bytes takes too much gray matter away from the real important >problems.... It's true! I admit everything! Mea maxima culpa! Working in C makes me spend all day thinking base, rank thoughts about hard-core bitography! Not. Actually I spend most of my time thinking in high-level mathematics. >Why do most computer scientists insist on solving the same problems >over and over again [...] Dunno, and frankly I don't see the relevance to the issue at hand. I'm sure Java is fine for some stuff, as is C or whatever. Horses for courses. Bye, Rob. .-. .-. / \ .-. .-. / \ / \ / \ .-. _ .-. / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / `-' `-' \ / \ / \ \ / `-' `-' \ / `-' `-'
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[ILUG] VPN implementation I need to setup a VPN between a few sites. From what I've read, the the choices come down (on the Linux side) to IPsec (using FreeSWAN) or CIPE. It seems that FreeSWAN is 'better', being an implementation of IPsec which is a standard. However, CIPE does the job as well for Linux clients and is somewhat simpler to setup. The problem is that it's not a pure Linux situation - a couple of the sites run OS-X. I'm pretty sure that I'll be able to find an implementation of IPsec for OS-X, but I think CIPE is Linux only. So, the question is for those of you have have implemented BOTH - is there a significant difference in setup time and hassle between CIPE and FreeSWAN ? If CIPE is going to be much easier than dealing with FreeSWAN (and whatever on the OS-X sites) then I'll simply get a Linux box for each of the remote sites - with the low price of hardware, it doesn't take much more complexity in software to make buying hardware to use simpler software economic. Niall -- Irish Linux Users' Group: [email protected] http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. List maintainer: [email protected]
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[ILUG] The Age Old 'Which Mailer' Question I am trying to manage the email for a domain which I have hosted with hosting365, and am trying to get the whole email send and receive thing working nice and easily. At the moment I have configured Fetchmail to poll the different pop3 mailboxes and deliver the mail accordingly, although it appears that I have to have only one unix user being able to receive from each pop3 mailbox. This could be a limitation of the fetchmailconf programme, I'm not sure, but It would be much handier if I could just tell it to collect all of the mail from the different mailboxes, and then deliver it locally according to the "To:" header instead of the pop3 mailbox it came from. The other issue I am having is sending outgoing mail. I have been trying to use sendmail, but am finding it to be an absolute pain in the posterior, and when the relay server will only accept outgoing connections if I have checked for incoming mail in the last twenty minutes, and I don't know how to set sendmail to run a command before it sends out the mail. Do any of the outgoing mailer programs, exim or postfix or whatever, have a 'nice' configuration interface, or do they all have nice friendly configuration files like sendmail. Any suggestions of alternative solutions would be much appreciated. There are only three or four email addresses in my domain, and setting it up for scheduled collection and either scheduled or immediate delivery would do me fine. Thanks, David. David Hamilton Senior Technical Consultant HP Ireland -- Irish Linux Users' Group: [email protected] http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. List maintainer: [email protected]
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[ILUG] What HOWTOs for SOHO system Hi All, I'm trying to set up the following: 1. A Linux server running with a modem for internet connectivity and an ethernet card for LAN connectivity 2. Other LAN pcs with ethernet cards, using the Linux server for DNS/DHCP etc. Basically, I want to route any non LAN traffic through the ppp0. I've got some of the way, but like a similar post earlier about modem problems, when I am connected to the internet with eht0 up, the routing is all incorrect and noting goes out through ppp0 (eh0 must be the default route or something). Is there standard "out of the box" Linux tools that will carry out portmapping on behalf of the LAN PCs ? (I'm planning on non routable addresses 192.168.x.x for the LAN, routed outwards via the ppp0 interface). Can someone point me at the right HOWTOs or routing documentation I need to follow ? Thanks, Dermot. -- Irish Linux Users' Group: [email protected] http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. List maintainer: [email protected]
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RE: [ILUG] What HOWTOs for SOHO system Hi Dermot, if have a look at one of the dists. like www.smoothwall.org, it will save you lots of time and effort, and should do eveything you want. Justin > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of > Dermot Daly > Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 11:46 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [ILUG] What HOWTOs for SOHO system > > > Hi All, > I'm trying to set up the following: > > 1. A Linux server running with a modem for internet connectivity and an > ethernet card for LAN connectivity > 2. Other LAN pcs with ethernet cards, using the Linux server for > DNS/DHCP etc. > > Basically, I want to route any non LAN traffic through the ppp0. > > I've got some of the way, but like a similar post earlier about modem > problems, when I am connected to the internet with eht0 up, the routing > is all incorrect and noting goes out through ppp0 (eh0 must be the > default route or something). > > Is there standard "out of the box" Linux tools that will carry out > portmapping on behalf of the LAN PCs ? (I'm planning on non routable > addresses 192.168.x.x for the LAN, routed outwards via the ppp0 > interface). > > Can someone point me at the right HOWTOs or routing documentation I need > to follow ? > Thanks, > Dermot. > > -- > Irish Linux Users' Group: [email protected] > http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription > information. > List maintainer: [email protected] > > > -- Irish Linux Users' Group: [email protected] http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. List maintainer: [email protected]
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[ILUG] Email list management howto I think I'll ask this question again, as I sent on friday afternoon. :-) Justin > Hi, > > Can anyone point me to a howto on running mailing lists. Not looking for > anything that is package specific, but rather something that > gives general > info on the various Email headers and dealing with returned > mails, errors in > transport etc.. > > Thanks > > Justin -- Irish Linux Users' Group: [email protected] http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. List maintainer: [email protected]
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Re: [ILUG] Serial number in hosts file Ray Dermody's [[email protected]] 20 lines of wisdom included: > Hi All, > The serial number in our hosts files on our DNS server has gone > corrupt e.g. 2002082999999999901 should be 20002082901. > Its okay to set this back to todays date but I understand that our > secondary and terninary DNS servers will only update from the master > hosts file if the master host serial number is greater than the current > serial number in the hosts file. > Is there any way I can reset this on the secondary and terninary DNS > servers? Once you have the serial changed on the master DNS server, remove the appropiate zone(s) on your slaves, and refresh your DNS servers. Bind has a special case, if you set the serial to '0' I think. DNS & Bind should have something on that. -- Philip Reynolds RFC Networks tel: 01 8832063 www.rfc-networks.ie fax: 01 8832041 -- Irish Linux Users' Group: [email protected] http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. List maintainer: [email protected]
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Re: [ILUG] Email list management howto -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Vincent Cunniffe wrote: | Justin MacCarthy wrote: | |> I think I'll ask this question again, as I sent on friday afternoon. :-) | | | Mailman ;-) | | Trust me, you do *not* want to running your own mailing lists | on your own software. | | You'll wind up crying in a dark room looking for something | high-voltage to stick your fingers into. All things considered, I get that effect with Mailman, but the viable alternatives are ezmlm, which is loonware and I'm avoiding on principle, and majordomo, which seems to have stagnated. Oh, and there's apparently something called SmartList which is a bitch to set up. Waider. - -- [email protected] / Yes, it /is/ very personal of me -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQEVAwUBPXNE16HbXyzZsAb3AQH2KQf/XqeOMaHNXAlzbmgd5iYd9VQaAgWAR2DQ kdpz0NbECR2OS7PJoLY9lsPKgNshpJcDZIRsxJvXmfp5YRNq0AyP0HGGwRvWgjgB 0N9HG/Rgez7S5RhU79RAuhpFb9XO1XzMI0gSkDHSGefQsUOAZ69vZVLLsiRiyHFy 4u+vrPVTP0rYR7haX41JXu42GVWfT2K2DDFftAimqGCsJnu2MXcMI/Ptq1rtxhXD WZhxCR+FAwirEk8Yz9Drl8+gJL0YJQFSoWumQzqLKKutx1lJvv7OS4yDjGRaQpxm Jmq8lifudZayccbixx7ZcXMSlpP4C45Wj5XJSYW8RCjU1bgxTqhMbQ== =eG8X -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Irish Linux Users' Group: [email protected] http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. List maintainer: [email protected]
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Re: [ILUG] Email list management howto Justin MacCarthy wrote: > I think I'll ask this question again, as I sent on friday afternoon. :-) Mailman ;-) Trust me, you do *not* want to running your own mailing lists on your own software. You'll wind up crying in a dark room looking for something high-voltage to stick your fingers into. Regards, Vin -- Irish Linux Users' Group: [email protected] http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. List maintainer: [email protected]
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Re: [ILUG] Serial number in hosts file -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Your actual serial number is 1519761310 - from a dig I've just done. Try resetting the zone number to 2002082901 - some of your secondaries seem to have a serial number below that, so they clearly regard 1519761310 as being less than 2002082601. That should enable them to pick up the new zonefile. T. At 11:49 02/09/2002 +0100, Ray Dermody wrote: >Hi All, >The serial number in our hosts files on our DNS server has gone >corrupt e.g. 2002082999999999901 should be 20002082901. >Its okay to set this back to todays date but I understand that our >secondary and terninary DNS servers will only update from the master >hosts file if the master host serial number is greater than the current >serial number in the hosts file. >Is there any way I can reset this on the secondary and terninary DNS >servers? > >Ray Dermody >Computing Services Technician >I.T. Carlow >0503 76271 > > >-- >Irish Linux Users' Group: [email protected] >http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. >List maintainer: [email protected] VIA NET.WORKS Ireland is a wholly owned Limited Irish Company. Although connected to the VIA Global Network, VIA NET.WORKS Ireland is separate from and is not owned by VIA NET.WORKS Inc. or any member of the VIA NET.WORKS Inc. Group. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 7.0.3 for non-commercial use <http://www.pgp.com> iQA/AwUBPXNFo76WYZbx1eG3EQLfNwCfakNapOkbg26j1jqQQEHgIWFd4s0AoP4J GLBtgr1K8fzYlnnRNcfT3fSt =Rurr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Irish Linux Users' Group: [email protected] http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. List maintainer: [email protected]
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[ILUG] Damian Conway in Belfast... Hi All, Damian Conway is in Belfast this week. He will be giving two talks: o Perl 6 - Tuesday, 3rd September, 7pm, Jury's, Belfast o Quantum::Superpositions - Thursday, 5th September, 7pm, Jury's, Belfast He is also doing training courses... http://www.kasei.com/training/damian/ Wesley. -- Irish Linux Users' Group: [email protected] http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. List maintainer: [email protected]
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[ILUG] Marketing SIG has a good start :) |::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::| IT's Monday 520 02 September 2002 |::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::| STUDENT LIFE BEGINS WITH LINUX by John Sterne The launch last month of a marketing special interest group by the Irish Linux Users Group (ILUG) - open source and marketing, it seems, might not be mutually exclusive concepts - has already sparked an interesting initiative at University College Cork. When the new academic year begins at UCC, every incoming student will be offered a copy of Red Hat Linux 7.3. ILUG member Braun Brelin proposed this promotion, when he ran a training class for staff at the UCC computer science department. Brelin, who is the director of technology at OpenApp, says that the Linux offer could be extended to any or all of the other Irish universities. The user group is tapping into an international Red Hat programme that aims to introduce students at all levels to the open source style of computing. The Linux distributor runs an 'educational channel' to reach this audience, bundling educational software with its operating environment and offering networked support services to eligible applicants. This scheme was originally designed to suit the educational structures in the US, but is now available to schools and universities throughout the world. Red Hat Linux 7.3 incorporates ease of use and maintenance features and is intended to counter objections that Linux is hard to master on personal systems. The Linux-for-all project at UCC could also raise the profile of Red Hat Ireland. Based in Cork, this operation has run shared financial services for other Red Hat offices in Europe since 2000. Until now its involvement with users in Ireland has been fairly limited, although it does sometimes refer them to other Red Hat offices in Europe that offer consulting or technical support services. David Owens, Red Hat's director of global logistics and production, sees the formation of the ILUG marketing group as a reason to take a more proactive approach. In the last three months, he notes, his office in Cork has received more and more calls from Irish companies that are interested in adopting Linux and has introduced some to Red Hat pre-sales consultants. ------------- Many thanks are due to Braun and David for working together on this one. Regards L. -- Irish Linux Users' Group: [email protected] http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. List maintainer: [email protected]
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RE: [ILUG] Redhat 8.0 I just saw the ISOs on an internal server here and was tempted.... D. -----Original Message----- From: John P. Looney [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 3:45 PM To: HAMILTON,DAVID (HP-Ireland,ex2) Cc: '[email protected]' Subject: Re: [ILUG] Redhat 8.0 On Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 03:22:54PM +0100, HAMILTON,DAVID (HP-Ireland,ex2) mentioned: > Does anyone know when Redhat 8.0 is going to be released? > I have seen some ISO images of it around and I am trying to work out > if it's near release. Null, the third beta was out last week. It'll be an interesting release. Gnome 2.0, and GCC 3.2 - both very new, large projects. I'd not be putting it on any production machines for a while... Though many say "RedHat X.0 releases are rubbish" - it's worth baring in mind that they jump a release when the underlying archtechture changes, not just the installer, so they are .0 for a reason. Kate -- Irish Linux Users' Group: [email protected] http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. List maintainer: [email protected]
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[ILUG] freeserve in the uk? ok, so if i was in the uk for a wekk, how might i configure my laptop to dial in to a freebie isp? redhat's internet connection wizard actually has settings for uk isp's, but freeserve is the only one i recognize and it doen't seem to work. has anyone here done this? kevin -- [email protected] that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to fork()'ed on 37058400 the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier meatspace place: home than a sober one. the happiness of credulity is a http://ie.suberic.net/~kevin cheap & dangerous quality -- g.b. shaw -- Irish Linux Users' Group: [email protected] http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information. List maintainer: [email protected]
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This is a large corpus of 42,619 preprocessed text messages and emails sent by humans in 43 languages. is_spam=1 means spam and is_spam=0 means ham.

1040 rows of balanced data, consisting of casual conversations and scam emails in ≈10 languages, were manually collected and annotated by me, with some help from ChatGPT.


Some preprcoessing algorithms


Data composition

Spam vs Non-spam (Ham)


Description

To make the text format between sms messages and emails consistent, email subjects and content are separated by two newlines:

text = email.subject + "\n\n" + email.content

Suggestions

  • If you plan to train a model based on this dataset alone, I recommend adding some rows with is_toxic=0 from FredZhang7/toxi-text-3M. Make sure the rows aren't spam.

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