user124007: Basically I'm looking for this graph, but denominated in BTC https://www.blockchain.com/charts/miners-revenue or this graph plus the block reward https://www.blockchain.com/charts/transaction-fees
I've searched a bunch but can't find anything, maybe I am using the wrong search terms
Motivation
As I understand it, a key metric for the security of the bitcoin network is the ratio of A / B, where:

A is total miner revenue per unit time (e.g. year). This is made up
of transaction fees plus the block rewards, and is denominated in
BTC.
B is total number of circulating bitcoins.

The higher this ratio, the higher the network security, because miners are incentivized to keep mining and collect revenue in form of block rewards and transaction fees.
If the ratio gets too low, then it becomes profitable for miners (or mining pools) to instead band together, borrow a large percentage of circulating bitcoin, and repeatedly double spend all their bitcoin into fiat.
To use an extreme example for demonstration: if we get to 2140 when the block reward will be zero, and no-one is paying transaction fees, then miners get no revenue from mining and would find it more profitable to perform a double spend attack.
B is slow-changing if we just consider new block rewards and ignore bitcoins that are "lost", so it probably be sufficient to just track A as a proxy for A / B.
Please do let me know if I'm missing something above, I want to learn!

user-1: I know two websites which can be used to check miners revenue per day (in BTC):

Glassnode Studio: https://studio.glassnode.com/metrics?a=BTC&category=Miners&m=mining.RevenueSum&mScl=lin&s=1294012800&u=1594079999&zoom=

You can't see recent dates in it for 2021 as free plan limits access to recent data for certain metrics. Either you can upgrade your account to see most recent data or try 2.


Tradingview:

Open https://www.tradingview.com/symbols/QUANDL-BCHAIN/MIREV/ which is miners revenue per day in USD
Click on "full featured chart"
Switch to weekly time frame and line chart (log scale)
Click on "compare" and add BTCUSD (Bitstamp) chart
Check the values in both line charts on any given day. Example: 33234107 and 35000 on 5 July 2021




Calculation: 33234107 / 35000  = 950 BTC

As I understand it, a key metric for the security of the bitcoin network is the ratio of A / B, where:
A is total miner revenue per unit time (e.g. year). This is made up of transaction fees plus the block rewards, and is denominated in BTC.
B is total number of circulating bitcoins.

I am not sure about B. I look at FRM which is Miner Revenue [Block Reward + Transaction Fees] / Transaction Fees. Agree that transaction fees are important in long term for Bitcoin.

To use an extreme example for demonstration: if we get to 2140 when the block reward will be zero, and no-one is paying transaction fees, then miners get no revenue from mining and would find it more profitable to perform a double spend attack.

If no-one is paying transaction fees, no one is using Bitcoin so it will be a failed experiment IMO. I cannot predict future and it will be wrong to assume anything although it looks less likely that there will be no transactions.

124007: <p>Basically I'm looking for this graph, but denominated in BTC <a href="https://www.blockchain.com/charts/miners-revenue" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://www.blockchain.com/charts/miners-revenue</a> or this graph plus the block reward <a href="https://www.blockchain.com/charts/transaction-fees" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://www.blockchain.com/charts/transaction-fees</a></p>
<p>I've searched a bunch but can't find anything, maybe I am using the wrong search terms</p>
<p><strong>Motivation</strong></p>
<p>As I understand it, a key metric for the security of the bitcoin network is the ratio of <em>A / B</em>, where:</p>
<ul>
<li><em>A</em> is total miner revenue per unit time (e.g. year). This is made up
of transaction fees plus the block rewards, and is denominated in
BTC.</li>
<li><em>B</em> is total number of circulating bitcoins.</li>
</ul>
<p>The higher this ratio, the higher the network security, because miners are incentivized to keep mining and collect revenue in form of block rewards and transaction fees.</p>
<p>If the ratio gets too low, then it becomes profitable for miners (or mining pools) to instead band together, borrow a large percentage of circulating bitcoin, and repeatedly double spend all their bitcoin into fiat.</p>
<p>To use an extreme example for demonstration: if we get to 2140 when the block reward will be zero, and no-one is paying transaction fees, then miners get no revenue from mining and would find it more profitable to perform a double spend attack.</p>
<p><em>B</em> is slow-changing if we just consider new block rewards and ignore bitcoins that are &quot;lost&quot;, so it probably be sufficient to just track <em>A</em> as a proxy for <em>A / B</em>.</p>
<p>Please do let me know if I'm missing something above, I want to learn!</p>
 -1: <p>I know two websites which can be used to check miners revenue per day (in BTC):</p>
<ol>
<li>Glassnode Studio: <a href="https://studio.glassnode.com/metrics?a=BTC&amp;category=Miners&amp;m=mining.RevenueSum&amp;mScl=lin&amp;s=1294012800&amp;u=1594079999&amp;zoom=" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://studio.glassnode.com/metrics?a=BTC&amp;category=Miners&amp;m=mining.RevenueSum&amp;mScl=lin&amp;s=1294012800&amp;u=1594079999&amp;zoom=</a></li>
</ol>
<p>You can't see recent dates in it for 2021 as free plan limits access to recent data for certain metrics. Either you can upgrade your account to see most recent data or try 2.</p>
<p><a href="https://i.stack.imgur.com/C3Os0.png" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><img src="https://i.stack.imgur.com/C3Os0.png" alt="glassnode-miners-revenue" /></a></p>
<ol start="2">
<li><p>Tradingview:</p>
<ul>
<li>Open <a href="https://www.tradingview.com/symbols/QUANDL-BCHAIN/MIREV/" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://www.tradingview.com/symbols/QUANDL-BCHAIN/MIREV/</a> which is miners revenue per day in USD</li>
<li>Click on &quot;full featured chart&quot;</li>
<li>Switch to weekly time frame and line chart (log scale)</li>
<li>Click on &quot;compare&quot; and add BTCUSD (Bitstamp) chart</li>
<li>Check the values in both line charts on any given day. Example: 33234107 and 35000 on 5 July 2021</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ol>
<p><a href="https://i.stack.imgur.com/6cZGR.png" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><img src="https://i.stack.imgur.com/6cZGR.png" alt="tradingview-miners-revenue" /></a></p>
<p>Calculation: 33234107 / 35000  = 950 BTC</p>
<blockquote>
<p>As I understand it, a key metric for the security of the bitcoin network is the ratio of A / B, where:
A is total miner revenue per unit time (e.g. year). This is made up of transaction fees plus the block rewards, and is denominated in BTC.
B is total number of circulating bitcoins.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>I am not sure about B. I look at <a href="https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/a/107412/">FRM</a> which is Miner Revenue [Block Reward + Transaction Fees] / Transaction Fees. Agree that transaction fees are important in long term for Bitcoin.</p>
<blockquote>
<p>To use an extreme example for demonstration: if we get to 2140 when the block reward will be zero, and no-one is paying transaction fees, then miners get no revenue from mining and would find it more profitable to perform a double spend attack.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>If no-one is paying transaction fees, no one is using Bitcoin so it will be a failed experiment IMO. I cannot predict future and it will be wrong to assume anything although it looks less likely that there will be no transactions.</p>
