| === JEWS is now known as Guest55145 | |
| [00:24] <firefly2> my desktop lost its panels (taskbar) after a crash, when I try "applications-settings-panel" (right-mouse-click on desktop) nothing starts up (all ok as a different user) | is there a way to just reset the desktop to the default? thx | |
| === JEWS is now known as Guest19140 | |
| [07:23] <Ongacska> Ola bruderz | |
| [07:24] <Ongacska> Willkommt auz Wunderland | |
| [07:24] <Ongacska> TheSheep bruder Ola | |
| [07:24] <Ongacska> Sysi bruder Ola | |
| === tien is now known as jove | |
| [07:57] <jove> hello everyone, I have mp3 files at the local and want to burn them into WAV audio for CD, what program of the new Ubuntu 9.10 should be using ? | |
| [08:33] <Balsaq> good morning | |
| [08:35] <Balsaq> i printed a 66 page guide off the internet, "ubuntu user guide", do you thin it will help? i will read every page. | |
| [08:35] <Balsaq> thin=think* | |
| [08:36] <_Pete__> does it have: internet is evil, internet is evil... ? | |
| === _Pete__ is now known as _Pete_ | |
| [08:36] <Balsaq> no just days xubuntu xubuntu desktop guide | |
| [08:36] <Balsaq> i will get the other one too if it is good | |
| [08:37] <_Pete_> if it doesnt have those its not good | |
| [08:37] <_Pete_> thats all you need to know about internet | |
| [08:37] <Balsaq> so it has to say.....internet evil? | |
| [08:38] <Balsaq> bizarre? | |
| [08:38] <_Pete_> right | |
| [08:38] <Balsaq> internet evil? | |
| [08:38] <Balsaq> what does that have to do with xubuntu? | |
| [08:38] <Balsaq> whatever i will get it | |
| [08:38] <_Pete_> it connects to internet so that's evil too | |
| [08:39] <_Pete_> notice the sarcasm here :) | |
| [08:39] <Balsaq> hmmm....no matter what i will know everything about xubuntu | |
| [08:40] <Balsaq> people at work are having me "fix" thier computers....almost daily now | |
| [08:40] <_Pete_> where do you work? | |
| [08:40] <Balsaq> for a government engineering firm.... | |
| [08:41] <_Pete_> ok | |
| [08:41] <_Pete_> doesnt they have it-support? | |
| [08:41] <_Pete_> or you are it? | |
| [08:41] <Balsaq> i am not it... | |
| [08:41] <Balsaq> i protect it | |
| [08:42] <Balsaq> we have it | |
| [08:42] <Balsaq> now i want to transfer to IT | |
| [08:42] <Balsaq> now that i see buntu | |
| [08:43] <Balsaq> i just burned 910 for another guy at work ...just now | |
| [08:43] <Balsaq> tommorow another will se the benefit of buntu | |
| [08:43] <Balsaq> i do it for free | |
| [08:43] <Sysi> i don't recommend karmic to people anymore | |
| [08:43] <Balsaq> even but the disks for them, and burn them | |
| [08:44] <Sysi> it's too problemfull :( | |
| [08:44] <Balsaq> i give then ubuntu or xubuntu every time | |
| [08:44] <Balsaq> xubuntu is my favorite but ubuntu is cool...can't run from ubuntu | |
| [08:45] <Balsaq> kubuntu is ok but they recentyl got wierd | |
| [08:45] <Balsaq> that plasma thing is....i dunno what that is | |
| [08:45] <_Pete_> I think this 9.10 is quite unstable | |
| [08:46] <_Pete_> with recent kernels had got many kernel panics | |
| [08:46] <Balsaq> but i must say pclinuxos is nice | |
| [08:46] <_Pete_> if you want stable, use debian | |
| [08:46] <Balsaq> well ihave been letting them use my 810, and telling them to halt at 904 | |
| [08:46] <Balsaq> until i fully test 910 | |
| [08:47] <Balsaq> but i must 910 looks pretty dadgum goog t oo | |
| [08:47] <Balsaq> good* | |
| [08:47] <_Pete_> wouldn care a shit what it looks | |
| [08:47] <_Pete_> but if it WORKS matters | |
| [08:47] <Balsaq> i mean it is strong, contrary to what they are saying | |
| [08:48] <Balsaq> batter than what they say , those ubuntu people are damn good | |
| [08:48] <_Pete_> who say so? | |
| [08:48] <Balsaq> i have been burning and testing a lot of em for a month or so | |
| [08:50] <Balsaq> some say 901 has a lot of bugs...haven't seen a lot of bugs yet | |
| [08:50] <Balsaq> 910 i mean | |
| [08:51] <_Pete_> I have | |
| [08:51] <_Pete_> one being trying to boot 2.6.31-15 kernel = instant crash | |
| [08:52] <Balsaq> rock solid....but then again, i am nowhere near an expert.....yet | |
| [08:54] <_Pete_> only rock solid linux here is dreambox | |
| [08:54] <_Pete_> ubuntu keeps crashing | |
| [08:54] <_Pete_> :( | |
| [08:54] <Balsaq> ? | |
| [08:54] <Balsaq> never for me. | |
| [08:54] <Balsaq> one girl gave me her computer... | |
| [08:55] <Balsaq> loaded with windows home and virus | |
| [08:55] <Balsaq> it would turn on...but nothing else worked...even the power off was useless | |
| [08:55] <Balsaq> i installed ubuntu | |
| [08:55] <_Pete_> root@dm600pvr:~> uptime 10:55:22 up 274 days, 22:24, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 | |
| [08:55] <Balsaq> she can't believe what happened | |
| [08:56] <_Pete_> this is the dreambox | |
| [08:56] <_Pete_> almost one year uptime | |
| [08:56] <Balsaq> even though her entire computer was gummed up with hair, dirt and nicotene...somehow i got ubuntu in it | |
| [08:56] <_Pete_> http://www.dreambox.org.uk/dreambox-600pvr.html | |
| [08:56] <_Pete_> this one | |
| [08:57] <Balsaq> so i cleaned all the dirt out and with ubuntu she is soooo happy | |
| [08:57] <_Pete_> work very nicely | |
| [08:57] <Balsaq> unreal | |
| [08:57] <Balsaq> they think i am a tech? | |
| [08:58] <Balsaq> yes it works very well...she says better than xp home...when she got it new | |
| [08:58] <Balsaq> now whr dad wants buntu...i just burnt him a disk...just now for when i go in to work tommorow | |
| [09:01] <Balsaq> Pete if ubuntu crashes...it must be some od reason...like maybe you use 32bit on your 64 bit machine? | |
| [09:01] <_Pete_> no I dont | |
| [09:01] <_Pete_> I use 64bit on 64bit machine | |
| [09:02] <Balsaq> i still think 64 bit is not where it should be,,,has some issues | |
| [09:02] <Balsaq> 32 is still best | |
| [09:02] <_Pete_> its not | |
| [09:02] <_Pete_> http://quadcore.homeunix.net/phpsysinfo/index.php?disp=dynamic | |
| [09:02] <_Pete_> this is my machine | |
| [09:02] <Sahkolihaa> I prefer 32-bit since I only have 2GiB RAM and I have software that doesn't run correctly under 64-bit. | |
| [09:03] <_Pete_> which software is that? | |
| [09:03] <Balsaq> Pete i bought a new quad core...with 6g ram, it crashe on the 12th day-i got rid of it | |
| [09:03] <Sysi> i hate those SYSInfoes :P | |
| [09:03] <Balsaq> i had the best computer in town...it bit the dust in 12 days | |
| [09:03] <Sahkolihaa> Second Life has no 64-bit version. :P | |
| [09:03] <_Pete_> Sysi: me too, unless it's my new i7 | |
| [09:03] <_Pete_> Sahkolihaa: 32-bit progs should work fine in 64bit systems | |
| [09:04] <Balsaq> i don't know why but 32 bit is still #1 | |
| [09:04] <_Pete_> Balsaq: it's not | |
| [09:04] <Sahkolihaa> _Pete_: Not when the software requires a 32-bit gstreamer to allow streaming media. | |
| [09:04] <Sahkolihaa> Um, it is. | |
| [09:04] <_Pete_> if your cpu supports 64bit instruction set | |
| [09:04] <Sahkolihaa> More people download the 32-bit ISO. | |
| [09:04] <_Pete_> just wasting resources not to use them | |
| [09:04] <Balsaq> i know 64 can download bigeer files...but it is weak | |
| [09:05] <Sahkolihaa> _Pete_: 64-bit is pointless unless you've got more than 4GiB RAM. | |
| [09:05] <_Pete_> Sahkolihaa: it's not | |
| [09:05] <_Pete_> as said | |
| [09:05] <Balsaq> pete had 8g | |
| [09:05] <Balsaq> but still 64 is still weak for some reason | |
| [09:05] <_Pete_> 64bit programs are much faster | |
| [09:05] <Sahkolihaa> 64-bit only helps -some- processing. Generally, I see no speed increase over my system when using 64-bit over 32-bit. | |
| [09:06] <_Pete_> especially in calculation things | |
| [09:06] <Balsaq> yes faster but the are flimsy | |
| [09:06] <_Pete_> I have run 64bit years now | |
| [09:06] <_Pete_> and there's no any probs | |
| [09:06] <Balsaq> it is good but they lock up | |
| [09:06] <_Pete_> and there shouldnt be | |
| [09:08] <Balsaq> i want a 64 but they they are not refined yet...can't believe it takes the engineers this long | |
| [09:08] <_Pete_> Balsaq: you have any proof of what you are saying? that is kind of hard statement | |
| [09:09] <_Pete_> how do you think linux is in most top500 supercomputers if what you say is true | |
| [09:09] <Balsaq> if you saw my new 64 bit quad...if youm saw what happened, you would agree | |
| [09:09] <Sysi> i'll install 64bit next, just need to decide what distribution | |
| [09:09] <Sysi> our school server runs 64bit as many others, no any problems | |
| [09:10] <_Pete_> personally I have used linux on computers with >30 cores & >60G memory | |
| [09:10] <_Pete_> works very fine | |
| [09:10] <_Pete_> fact that ubuntu doesnt | |
| [09:10] <_Pete_> doesnt anyhow prevent that | |
| [09:10] <Balsaq> i know they are good commercially, but on the normal retail level they are still weak | |
| [09:10] <_Pete_> Balsaq: they? | |
| [09:11] <Balsaq> 64's | |
| [09:11] <_Pete_> they arent | |
| [09:11] <Balsaq> the ones they sell to cnsumers are weak | |
| [09:11] <Sysi> because YUO had problems? | |
| [09:11] <Sysi> *YOU | |
| [09:11] <Balsaq> well iam not the only one | |
| [09:11] <_Pete_> Balsaq: but how can you judge the problems are from 64bit or from UBUNTU ? | |
| [09:12] <Balsaq> where i live, i am not kidding, the 32 bit xp pro rule | |
| [09:12] <_Pete_> like you can run 64bit debian | |
| [09:12] <_Pete_> or what ever | |
| [09:12] <Sahkolihaa> I don't use it since Second Life doesn't have a 64-bit binary. I'd have to go about trying to install the 32-bit OpenAL and gstreamer libraries for it to fully work. | |
| [09:12] <Balsaq> as i say....in my area the 32 bit xp pro computers rule... | |
| [09:13] <_Pete_> lolz | |
| [09:13] <_Pete_> luckily I am not in your area | |
| [09:13] <Balsaq> it may sound funny but here it isn't even close | |
| [09:13] <Balsaq> and i work in a huge corporation | |
| [09:13] <_Pete_> so? | |
| [09:14] <Balsaq> extremely hight tech | |
| [09:14] <Balsaq> high | |
| [09:14] <Sysi> and? | |
| [09:14] <_Pete_> :D | |
| [09:14] <_Pete_> Balsaq: post your CV | |
| [09:14] <Balsaq> they count on 32 bit pro to this day | |
| [09:14] <Sysi> because 64bit XP sucks | |
| [09:15] <Balsaq> i am just telling you this...not for any reason, isee it literally every day | |
| [09:15] <Balsaq> they love 32 bit xp pro....love it | |
| [09:16] <_Pete_> Balsaq: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/petri-airio/5/960/540 | |
| [09:16] <Balsaq> don't get me wrong i have buntu all over my house....but 32 bit xp pro is tough | |
| [09:16] <_Pete_> I do development for linux | |
| [09:16] <_Pete_> so I think I know very well what works and what doesnt | |
| [09:16] <Balsaq> yes Pete i know you are great on the software | |
| [09:16] <_Pete_> what you say doesnt make ANY sense | |
| [09:17] <Balsaq> well we have over 1000 computer wherer i work....just in that one location | |
| [09:17] <_Pete_> so? | |
| [09:17] <Balsaq> i am just saying they love 32 bit xp pro...thats all | |
| [09:18] <_Pete_> lolz | |
| [09:18] <Balsaq> like its their brother or sister | |
| [09:18] <Balsaq> don't shoot the messenger | |
| [09:18] <_Pete_> yes | |
| [09:18] <_Pete_> maybe it's better you to stick with that printed thing | |
| [09:19] <_Pete_> but unless you have something to proof with | |
| [09:19] <_Pete_> better be silent | |
| [09:19] <_Pete_> to not make shame of you anymore | |
| [09:19] <Balsaq> well iunderstand you have the technical knowledge...but i just said what i see everyday | |
| [09:20] <_Pete_> all you have said is 1000 computers and 64bit doesnt work | |
| [09:20] <Balsaq> i didnt say they dont work | |
| [09:20] <_Pete_> which 1. might be true | |
| [09:20] <_Pete_> 2. is not | |
| [09:20] <Balsaq> but 32 seems tougher and more reliable | |
| [09:21] <_Pete_> based on your solid experience? | |
| [09:21] <Balsaq> i don;t want too stop progress, but those who engineer the new stuff need to get their _____ together faster | |
| [09:21] <_Pete_> the one who prints 70pages xubuntu manual? | |
| [09:21] <_Pete_> or the one who has run 64bit years? | |
| [09:21] <Balsaq> yes i know,,, | |
| [09:22] <_Pete_> :D | |
| [09:22] <Balsaq> hey you got me there...just watching the engineers and all the folks at work | |
| [09:23] <Balsaq> i won't be so far behind soon | |
| [09:24] <_Pete_> behind what? | |
| [09:25] <Balsaq> i admit openly i have not payed much attention to computer until just recently | |
| [09:25] <Balsaq> since i discovered buntu | |
| [09:25] <_Pete_> and still you can make such a claims as above?! | |
| [09:26] <Balsaq> well i said what i see thats all | |
| [09:26] <_Pete_> eight | |
| [09:26] <_Pete_> r | |
| [09:26] <_Pete_> so you think what YOU see is truth? | |
| [09:26] <Balsaq> i admit i may be off | |
| [09:26] <Balsaq> i hope i am off | |
| [09:27] <Balsaq> cause i want the new stuff | |
| [09:27] <Balsaq> and i can buy it | |
| [09:27] <_Pete_> buy this http://maemo.nokia.com/features/ | |
| [09:27] <_Pete_> it has some software written by me | |
| [09:27] <Balsaq> but i cant kill all this old stuff ihave here...can't break it if i try | |
| [09:28] <Balsaq> it will boot anyhting | |
| [09:31] <Balsaq> wo i paste it and it say i need to ber an operator to do that | |
| [09:31] <Balsaq> hi Sysi! | |
| [09:32] <Balsaq> i had one too many stolis | |
| [13:24] <_Misio_> Hi... Could someone help me to realize why my firefox refuses to run java applets? | |
| [13:30] <TheSheep> _Misio_: do you have sun-java6-plugin installed? | |
| [13:30] <_Misio_> TheSheep: Hmm... it's a firefox plugin? | |
| [13:31] <TheSheep> it's ubuntu package | |
| [13:31] <Sysi> have you installed restricted-extras? | |
| [13:31] <Sysi> that includes java | |
| [13:32] <_Misio_> TheSheep: I'm taking a look... | |
| [13:32] <_Misio_> Sysi: Java works. The compiler and JRE are installed... just firefox refuses to play applets | |
| [13:33] <Sysi> oh, that kind of case, hum | |
| [13:42] <_Misio_> :s | |
| [13:43] <_Misio_> I've installed OpenJDK | |
| [13:43] <_Misio_> Should I substitute it with the sun version? | |
| [14:03] <_Misio_> openjdk seems to have a browser plugin too | |
| [14:04] <_Misio_> I will try it before install sun-java6 packages | |
| [14:04] <_Misio_> have someone switched to sun-java6 from openjdk? | |
| [14:11] <_Misio_> It seems to work very well... I will keep OpenJDK for now | |
| [14:11] <_Misio_> thank you | |
| [14:53] <cristian_c> hi | |
| [14:54] <cristian_c> I can't play audio cd on my xubuntu | |
| [14:56] <cristian_c> Have you ever tried it? | |
| [15:01] <likemindead> cristian_c, | |
| [15:01] <knome> Dear diary, | |
| [15:01] <likemindead> Install "xubuntu-restricted-extras" | |
| [15:02] <cristian_c> I've already installed | |
| [15:02] <cristian_c> it | |
| [15:02] <likemindead> Strange. | |
| [15:02] <likemindead> Try VLC. | |
| [15:02] <cristian_c> likemindead, does it work to you? | |
| [15:03] <likemindead> Uh... | |
| [15:04] <cristian_c> likemindead, What's your player? | |
| [15:04] <likemindead> I don't know the last time I played a physical CD. LOL. | |
| [15:04] <cristian_c> ok | |
| [15:04] <likemindead> !vlc | |
| [15:04] <ubottu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS2 (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based). Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs | |
| [15:04] <cristian_c> I use live usb | |
| [15:05] <cristian_c> I can't install too many packets | |
| [15:07] <knome> cristian_c, which xubuntu version? | |
| [15:08] <cristian_c> jaunty | |
| [15:08] <cristian_c> I can make many tries | |
| [15:09] <cristian_c> I'd like to use totem | |
| [15:10] <cristian_c> It plays one only song | |
| [15:10] <cristian_c> the first song | |
| [15:10] <cristian_c> for all CD's | |
| [15:11] <cristian_c> knome, I dont'know if it happens to you even | |
| [15:12] <cristian_c> I'd like to know if there is a workaround | |
| [15:14] <knome> cristian_c, i remember that's a known bug but can't remember the solution. | |
| [15:15] <cristian_c> I don't know if there's a solution | |
| [15:17] <knome> there is. | |
| [15:17] <cristian_c> really? | |
| [15:18] <cristian_c> :-)))))) | |
| [15:18] <knome> yes, but as i said, can't remember the solution right now | |
| [15:18] <knome> and i have to go | |
| [15:18] <knome> cristian_c, probably searching the ubuntuforums.org would give you the answer | |
| [15:18] <cristian_c> thanks for the info | |
| [15:19] <cristian_c> knome, I've not found anything | |
| [15:19] <cristian_c> :( | |
| [15:19] <cristian_c> I've googled | |
| [15:20] <knome> see you later, i truly have to go | |
| [15:21] <cristian_c> bye | |
| [15:21] <cristian_c> :) | |
| === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak | |
| [16:37] <h3x> can anyone help me to install canon lbp-810 driver on xubuntu :( | |
| [16:38] <likemindead> http://ubuntubee.blogspot.com/2008/02/using-canon-lbp-810-lbp-1120-in-ubuntu.html | |
| [17:13] <johnny_> hi in xfce4 which passskey agent i can use for bluetooth | |
| [17:13] <johnny_> ? | |
| [17:16] <johnny_> hi in xfce4 which passskey agent i can use for bluetooth | |
| [17:58] <mthorn_> Got kind of a strange problem with xubuntu. I just did a clean install of 9.10, overwriting my 8.10 install. Whenever I try to run a binary on the command line, I get a message like this: "no such file or directory: ./thunderbird-bin" | |
| [17:59] <mthorn_> my shell is zsh, but I tried using sh as well | |
| [17:59] <mthorn_> I'm in the right directory. I can see the file when I ls, and the perms are right. | |
| [17:59] <mthorn_> any suggestions? | |
| [18:00] <dunix> mthorn_, does it do this if you change your shell? | |
| [18:01] <mthorn_> huh. no, it does not if I actually run chsh | |
| [18:01] <mthorn_> I did try changing to sh and it was still happening | |
| [18:02] <mthorn_> but yeah, actually changing my shell makes the problem go away. Is zsh buggy in 9.10 or something? | |
| [18:02] <dunix> I don't use zsh, nor do I know much about it, but this might be a 'feature' or something that needs to be set in zsh | |
| [18:08] <dunix> I believe there is a whole guide on zsh's website that might give more insite, than I have. | |
| [18:41] <mthorn_> is there a way to set some kind of filter for which notifications are shown? There's far too many from pidgin. | |
| [18:56] <kubanc> hey guys, i cannot set nautilus as default file manager, can someone please help me? | |
| [19:50] <likemindead> Why does the defualt 9.10 login screen still look so shoddy with the default theme? :-\ | |
| [19:51] <likemindead> (Bars at the bottom "panel" off color, etc.) | |
| [19:57] <knome> likemindead, no idea. :P | |
| [19:57] <likemindead> I may just install SLiM. It's nice. | |
| [19:57] <ZapSCommin4U> whats up? | |
| [19:58] <likemindead> The Xubuntu 9.10 login screen looking ugly with the default themes--bars at the bottom "panel" off color, etc. | |
| [19:59] <ZapSCommin4U> hah not much to work with huh? | |
| [20:02] <cody-somerville> I think the default GDM theme for Xubuntu looks great | |
| [20:03] <Sysi> not as candy as kdm but not bad | |
| [20:03] <knome> cody-somerville, i think the default gdm theme background sucks | |
| [20:03] <knome> ;) | |
| [20:04] <cody-somerville> knome, then you should have done a better job on it :P | |
| [20:04] <knome> o'rly :P | |
| [20:04] <cody-somerville> if joo say it sucks, 'rly! | |
| [20:04] <knome> hehe | |
| [20:05] <knome> well it doesn't... but it could be better! | |
| [20:05] <likemindead> You don't get any weird, clashing colors at the login screen, cody-somerville? | |
| [20:12] <cody-somerville> likemindead, can you take a screenshot and post it? | |
| [20:13] <likemindead> Hmmm... how would I do that before logging in? Ctrl+F2 to a CLI & use scrot with a delay? | |
| [20:14] <cody-somerville> something like that should work, yes. | |
| [22:15] <zombi-> hey | |
| [22:16] <zombi-> I just installed xubuntu and it's detected my sound card (the controls appear in the mixer), but exaile wont play anything and I can't work out why... | |
| [22:17] <zombi-> The first problem was with restricted codecs, so i installed the restricted extras package | |
| [22:27] <zombi-> No application will play anything | |
| [22:37] <zombi-> meh, back to ubuntu | |
| [23:37] <mthorn> IS there a way to reenable control + alt+ backspace? If not, what's the right command to bind to that key combo using the keyboard shortcuts manager? | |