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Good morning, everybody. How are you? Had a nice
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time over the long week end, yes? Good. Today,
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we're going to see Raleigh's poem, but from a
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different perspective. We're going to see it as a
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parody.
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Like in this poem,
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I mean, Raleigh parodies Marlow.
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I mean, when I say parody, have you ever thought
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what is a parody?
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So in this lecture, we'll talk about what is
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parody, and then we're going to see how Raleigh
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parodies or parodies like Marlowe in this reply.
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But let me ask you, what is a parody? Yes, please.
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Yes.
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So yes, the main purpose of the parody is like to
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make fun, is to ridicule or to mock. So one is
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writing, let's say, a novel or
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a story in response to another novel or a story or
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a poem. And the main purpose of this is to
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satirize, to parody, to parody, you know, the
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original one. Now, is this what is happening in
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like Marlow's or Raleigh's reply? Is he mocking
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him? Is he, you know, making fun of him? This is
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what we are going to see. But the question is,
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like, how he is making fun of him, you know? How?
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Like, he should be making fun of him on a
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thematic, you know, level, on a linguistic level,
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on a form level. So this is what we are going to
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see today. Like if we remember Marlow's
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poem is about what? Marlow's poem is about the
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simplicity of the pastoral life. It is about the
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immortality of the pastoral life. It is a
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suggestion. It is an invitation, like, for the
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lady, you know, for Marlon's lady to go and live
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with him in that beautiful life. Now, we want to
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see, like, how he is parodizing, you know, the
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whole poem. And, like, I want, before I start, I
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want you to be aware You know, when we say parody
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of the word, of certain verbs, like verbs like, I
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might write for them, like, because they will help
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you in your,
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in speaking about the parody.
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Do you know what this mean, mock? To mock? Okay.
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What is this?
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Could you like bring like the page size, the size
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of the page? Okay. Can anybody like come and fix
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this? So we might need to use words like, or
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verbs, like mock,
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mock,
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satirizes,
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refutes,
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you know refutes, debunks,
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invalidates,
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What do I do? Yeah, just like I want a small, I
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mean a large font, a large font. So when we are
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discussing how this is a parody, we might need to
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use these verbs. How he makes fun of him. How he,
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you know, disdains his idea. You might need the
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word disdain.
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So all these are necessary to use when you are
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explaining the parody. Now, you mentioned parody.
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It's an imitation. What is he imitating? If we
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look at Marlow's poem, you remember how it went?
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Come live with me and be my love. And here you see
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if all the word and love were young and truth in
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every shepherd's tongue. So what do you notice? Do
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you notice like the same rhyme and the same
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rhythm? What is like the rhythm? Do you remember
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the rhythm of Marlow's poem? Iambic pentameter. So
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again, if all the word and love were young, and
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truth in every shepherd's tongue. So if you scan
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this and you say, if we
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take this line, and make it scansion if the word
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and
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love were
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enough.
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Now I think if the word is stress, which is
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stress? What is stress?
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if they were and
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love were
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enough so again we are having if they were and
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love were enough like we have how many meters do
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we have? I mean, how many feet do we have? If the
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word, word, one. And love? Two. Where? Enough. You
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know? Three and four, because enough. Four. Four.
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And you know, each syllable has two. So it is the
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same rhythm. And the same, if you look, it is the
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same rhyme.
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B, A, A, B, B. So if you go to the original poem.
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Yes. And he's using almost the same number of
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stanzas, except in the reply you have one missing
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stanza, which is about the food one. Now, we have
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to see how he's making fun of him. How he's making
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fun of him. How is he ridiculing him? Is he making
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fun of him? Yes. How? How is he criticizing him?
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How is he satirizing him? How he is refuting? Now,
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when I say this is a parody, I don't want you to
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compare or contrast, because this is a common
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mistake. Usually in the exam, last year, I asked,
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to what extent is this poem a parody? And most of
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the students kept comparing and contrasting
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between the two poems, and they missed the point
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of the question. So when I say a parody, I want
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you to show me how he is making fun, how he is
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underestimating, how he is devaluing the whole
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poem. You see what I mean? So let's see how. Yes.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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So what was seen as immortal in Marlow is becoming
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Mortal. So in Raleigh or in Marlow, love and life
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were immortal. But here they are mortal. How? How
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do you say, like, how they are mortal? You know?
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How they are mortal. Like, do you have evidence
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from the poem that these things are mortal? Yes.
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How they are mortal. Yes? Okay, this is what you
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can from the outside, but from the inside of the
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poem. Yes, how? Yes, Jahan? It's like we discussed
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it last time, when we took the very first line and
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he said the word if. It's actually like, it's as
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if he's stating that the world and love are not
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enough, and he's saying that if they were. So, do
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you want to say the assumption, like, the
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assumption that life and love are not enough?
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Because this is, you know, an assumption. This is
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an assumption. But, like, I want more concrete,
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you know, images or evidence from the poem that
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indicate that all these, yes please? When he says,
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the girls, the shoes, die.
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Yes, this is an example of ephemerality, like you
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know what it means, transience. Ephemeral, like
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something which doesn't last.
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Means transient.
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Something which doesn't last. Yes, like these, thy
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gown, thy shoes, you know, all the golden
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promises, you know, will be like transient, like
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will be temporal. Okay, good. Also, he said the
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flowers will fade. The flowers fade, okay.
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The flowers fade like here, it's an image of
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morality, sorry, mortality. What else? Okay, let's
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go to the poem. Yes. Yes, please.
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Excellent. Yes, time drives the flock from field
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to fold. This is an image of what? Destruction,
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devastation. It is an image of finality, end. You
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know, there is nothing called mortal. Look here.
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Time drives the flux from field to field. So you
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can say, you know, like Rani in this poem
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undercuts or undermines or invalidates, whatever.
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You can use refutes. Like Marlow's assumption
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about the immortality of life by saying that time
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will put an end to each thing, to each immortal
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thing. So yes, here, more images, more images of
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mortality.
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Yes, here we have to be insider, to look at
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images.
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What about rocks growing old? What's been rocks
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growing old? It's an image of aging. It's an image
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of change. It's an image of transformation. Yeah.
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Yes. What else?
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What about the image of rottenness? Like here.
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Yeah. What will happen?
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The force.
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Yes, like thy gowns, thy shoes, thy bed of roses,
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thy cap, thy kirtle, and thy poses, soon break,
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soon wither, soon forgotten, infolirized,
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unreasoned, rotten. Like everything will be
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rotten. And rottenness is an image of decay. It's
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an image of decay. So as you see here, he
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undermines.
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He mocks Marlos by showing that nothing is
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immortal. So he mocks him by subverting his theme.
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I like the word subvert. Subvert like twisting his
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theme, showing the opposite. If you want to
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subvert something, you are showing the opposite.
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Subvert.
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Yes, he subverts the
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field by showing the opposite.
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The parody here is working on one level, which is
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thematic, you know, like he's taking the theme, he
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satirizes, he mocks him by showing, you know, an
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opposite theme. Also, we have other, like, it
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could be by using lexical choices, by using other
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linguistic choices. So what can you tell me about
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Here, if we look at the words,
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Marlowe, in his poem, Come Live With Me and Be My
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Love, and We All The Pleasures Prove. So if you
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talk about love and pleasure, if we go to Marlowe,
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love and pleasure, beauty, what are these things?
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You know, like in grammar, we call them what? Are
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they, you know, concrete nouns or what? They are
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abstract nouns. They are abstract nouns. And here,
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like in the poem, again, he keeps to the same
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choices. He uses them, if all the word and love
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were young. Like, again, he stresses that these
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things are abstract. And what is abstract is
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remote from reality, from real things. See? And
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even like, because this is, who's replying to
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Marlo?
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Who's replying to Marlo in Raleigh? Who's, who's
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like the speaker? The lady. But what is the lady
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called? The nymph. What is a nymph? What is a
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nymph? Yeah, I know, a nymph, but it is a mythical
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creature. A mythical. Originally, the word nymph,
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you know, is from Latin, which means a mythical.
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And what is mythical? When we are saying mythical,
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this is a myth. What is myth? A myth is something
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unreal. Unreal. So here, again, he is slapping
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him. He is slapping him by showing that he's
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talking about unreal things. Look, abstract nouns.
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Look at the nymph, which is like imaginary
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creatures. So by choosing words, by choosing
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words, you know, that have to do with unreal
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things. And this, again, is, you know, supported
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by what? By if. If all. If all the word. You see?
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If all the word and love by if. If, as we said
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last time, It is hypothetical.
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And the hypothesis has to do with his attitude. He
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is, like if somebody says, if all the word and
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love were enough. So this is, what does it
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reflect? It reflects the attitude of the poet And
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what do we call this attitude? It is an attitude
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of cynicism.
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He's cynical. He is skeptical.
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So by using if, by using if and again could. If
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you look at the end,
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But could youth lust and love still breed? Had
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joys? Again here, we have the conditional. So the
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poem begins with the conditional and ends with the
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conditional. And the conditional has to do with
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the attitude of cynicism. So we could easily say
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Raleigh is skeptical, doesn't believe Marlowe.
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He thinks, that the notions of immortal love and
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life are nonsensical. They are not true. And this
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cynical attitude is demonstrated by the use of F
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or the conditional use, I mean, the conditional of
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F at the beginning and could and had at the end.
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OK. More. Like, if we look here,
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thy belt. Look at the pronouns. Look at the
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repetition of these pronouns. Thy belt of straw
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and ivy buds. Thy coral clasp and amber studs. And
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I think, you know, Thy shoes, thy beds of roses,
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thy cap, thy curtain, and thy poses. So here, yes,
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these lexical
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or these syntactic choices, you know, thy, thy,
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with the repetition, what do they convey with
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them? A sense of? Rejection. Yeah, they induced,
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you know, a sense of boredom. But when you say,
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thy, thy. Yeah, like, he's sarcastic. He's
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sarcastic. He makes fun of him. He, you know,
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refutes all his
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allegations, all his assumptions about the
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immortality, the beauty. Now if we look, we have
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just seen how he was mocking the idea of
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immortality and how he's mocking the idea of
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beauty. Say again, you know, here you have images
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of horror, you have images of ugliness, you know,
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and if we go to them, like look here, when
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something is fading, is it beautiful? Yeah. When
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something is turning from like lush green into
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dark, you know, dark black or something like this,
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it is an image of death. And this is what is
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happening. But again, thy belt of straw and ivy
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buds, thy coral clasp and amber studs, thy, thy.
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So what does this show? It shows like, I mean,
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here, what Rani wants to say, that these things
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are artificial. Their beauty is artificial. It is
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not genuine beauty. Yeah, it is not genuine
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because it is not lasting beauty.
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And If you go up a little bit, for all the world
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and love were young and truth in every show, these
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pretty pleasures, the word pretty. When he says
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these pretty, does he mean like they are pretty?
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So what does he want to say? Like, don't you think
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he's sarcastic here? So what does he want to say
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exactly?
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Yes, please.
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Yeah, they're pretty, and they are not pretty.
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These pretty, like he was, it's an irony. These
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pretty pleasures make me move. Again, he wanted to
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say that these things are artificial, are not
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genuine, so I'm not coming with you.
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If we look at the artistic aspects, I mean, like
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the metaphors, like how he employs the metaphors,
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how he employs the alliteration, also we see like
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he's satirizing him. When he says, time drives the
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flux from field to fold. The alliteration here,
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you know, the alliteration shows what? Yeah, shows
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an image of horror. It reflects how tough,
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how fatal will be like the ravages of time. Time
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will be destructive. And this toughness, which,
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you know, we feel from the alliteration, it
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contrasts with the musical tone of Marlow's poem.
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If you remember Marlow's poem, it was full of
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music. It was full of the singing of the birds,
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the madrigals. Here, we have, instead of the
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melodious The melodious madrigals, we have time
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drives the flux from field to fold, and rivers
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rage and rocks grow cold. So the serenity, the
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tranquility of Marlow's poem are subverted.
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replaced, subverted like they are distorted. By
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what? By images, roaring images, by images of
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destruction.
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Okay. And Philemon becomes dumb. You know, the
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singing poet, There we have the poet was singing,
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but here the philomel becomes dumb. Here people
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are speechless. Why? So like the sense of
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security, the sense of tranquility are replaced by
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horror and shock. Here there is a shock. Why would
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philomel be dumb? Because of the horror of the
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upheaval. You know what I mean by upheaval? The
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change. It will be global change. You know,
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nothing will remain as it is, so the phenomenon
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will be done. You know? Again, this is like a
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myth. A mythical philomel is a mythical creature,
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but philomel means a bird, you know? So you can in
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both ways, like the philomel is done because of
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the shock out of the horror of the transformation
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or the upheaval.
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So I think we started to dislike. Huh? We started
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to dislike. Marlow's poem started to lose. The
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flowers do fade and wanton feels. To weigh word,
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winter reckoning yields. A honey tongue. Look,
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again, this is another technique. A honey tongue,
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a heart of gold. Fancy spring, but soon it falls.
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Now, what is he doing? He's juxtaposing. You know
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what's been juxtaposed? To put side by side
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things. A honey tongue, what is sweet, will be
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bitter of gold. What is lovely will be sorrowful
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and ugly. So again, the juxtaposition, like the
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technique of juxtaposition, like here in this
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poem, he juxtaposes beauty with ugliness. He
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juxtaposes sweetness with bitterness. So
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juxtaposition is like to invalidate, to show that
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whatever was beautiful in Marlow is nothing to
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show the reality, the opposite reality of Marlow's
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assumption.
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So as you see here, it's a full parody and you can
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Start your writing, how it is a parody, by showing
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this. But you can be more organized. You see? You
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should show how he is making fun of the
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suggestion. He's making fun of the theme itself.
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He's making fun of all the promises. So the
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promises, which were very enticing, are becoming
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repugnant. So what has been enticing, you know
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what's been enticing, tempting in Marlow is
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becoming here repugnant. Repugnant like hateful,
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something we don't like, repugnant.
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Yeah, repugnant. So I think the cup of flowers,
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the curtain, which was made of myrtle, are now
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what? They are things which they, they, we don't
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like them. They are no longer tempting. They are
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no longer enticing. On the contrary, they are
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images of horror and death. They are images of
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transience. So like here, you see, he rallies by
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doing this. He undermines everything. He
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satirizes. He mocks. He rebukes. This is what I
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want you to do when you write the parody. Okay,
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this is about the parody. Now we have some time to
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talk about, because this is like your reflection,
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will be your reflection. So I want you to compare
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and to contrast between the two poems. And when
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you are writing a comparison, you know, I want you
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like to take into consideration one. So when you
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are contrasting and Comparing. What are you going
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to do? And I think here, you have to contrast more
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than compare. But there are, you know, when I say
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compare, you talk about similarities. Contrast
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talk about, you know, yes, differences. You can do
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this by writing paragraph about the theme of this
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poem and writing a paragraph about the theme of
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this poem, by writing a paragraph about the tone
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of this poem, by writing another paragraph. This
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is like block. You assume the block. But if you
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want to, you know, to take the point and mix them,
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it's okay. It's up to you. You say, okay, the tone
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of Marlon's poem is so-and-so. While the tone of,
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you know, you can use while, whereas, on one hand,
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on the other hand, like these transitional words
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you are familiar with in your writing courses.
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Okay. So when you want to compare and contrast,
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what do you want to compare? I think you can
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compare Yeah, the theme. The theme. The rhyme. The
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rhythm.
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You can talk about figures of speech. I mean, the
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style. The style in general. The style includes
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figures of speech, includes alliteration, includes
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sound, music. What else? So we have the theme.
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Yeah, when you talk about the language, we are
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talking about the style. The theme. The tone. What
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is the tone, by the way? When we say the tone,
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what is the tone? Like usually people are mixing
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between the tone and attitude. What is a tone?
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And what is attitude?
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What is the tone and what is the attitude? What is
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the difference between the two? Yes?
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The tone. The tone is the impact of the words on
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us. the impact of the words on us. Like you look
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at a text and you see the happy child was smiling
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at his mom and started laughing and you know, like
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so the words smile, laugh, happy, you know, have
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what on us. So we call this tone as happy tone.
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cheerful tone. But when we have the crying, the
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tears, you know, it is sad. So if you look at the
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words in Marlow's poem, the tone of the whole text
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is very happy, jovial, cheerful. Look at the
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words, the happy, the birds, this way, you know,
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the singing of the swains, you know, so the tone
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is happy. But in Marlow, The tone is very sad.
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Very sad. Okay. The attitude. You know how the
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poet feels towards something. How the poet feels
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towards something. Like how you feel. When I'm
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talking about your attitude, Or when I'm talking
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about the attitude, I'm talking about the poet's
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attitude, the poet's feelings, view of something.
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So if we are looking at the attitude of Marlow, so
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he was open, he was optimistic, while Raleigh was
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Pessimistic. And you can, I think, demonstrate
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that from examples. So here, we have tone and
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attitude. You can also compare
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the themes. The theme, as we saw in the parody,
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one theme was about the immortality, and the other
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theme was about immortality. You can talk about
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the figures of speech, how the figures of speech
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and the images, the images, the figures of speech.
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Okay.
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Here, like how they were glowing, full of beauty,
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but in Marlow, the images are in Raleigh, sorry,
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yes. Okay, so you were talking. Good. I think,
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yes, here, the images are also different. The
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metaphors are different. So most of the metaphors
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in Raleigh's poem have to do with death, decay.
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Okay, yes. You can talk also... I think this is
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when you talk about the style, you know? You can
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talk about in the style, the form. the form, the
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figures of speech, the language, the sound, the
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alliteration.
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So the form is the larger category. So let's say
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these points you should consider the theme, the
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tone, the attitude, and then the style. The style
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includes the form, the images, the figures of
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speech, the alliteration, the sound, the rhyme and
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the rhythm. So I wish you would give me a
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masterpiece soon. And if possible, I'll be sending
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you a small article about how the parody itself.
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This might help you. But please try to distinguish
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between a parody and a comparison. In the parody,
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I look how you use these words. If you say this
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poem is lovely or the other, you're not writing it
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or you're not speaking about the parody, but you
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are comparing and contrasting. So I think this is
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enough for today. If you have any question, let me
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know, please. No questions. Today, I know I forgot
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the report, but it doesn't mean that, I don't know
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how I forgot the report. So let's do it like this
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time differently. We need somebody to read her
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report now. If anybody is willing to read her
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report, it would be funny. Is anybody willing?
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Yes. Okay.
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So this is a deviation from the norm. We are
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deviating from the norm. Every time we're having
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the report, At the beginning, now let's see the
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report at the end. Daily Report. When I wrote my
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daily report, I feel confused. That because when I
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wrote it, I measure myself walking in a long road.
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I mean, I find many difficulties when writing it
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because it is a kind of brainstorming and needs
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serious thinking a little bit. However, I like
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this task because I discovered that it has special
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taste. And also because I hate the method of
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cutting based. Regarding to the previous lecture,
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it was like something has a special sight of
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beauty. That because we began the lecture by
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saying the report and then students said her
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response which was beautiful and funny. Then Mr.
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Habib asked several questions and gave us many
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chances to think deeply, so we began to understand
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the poem and think seriously. After that, the
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teacher thanked us because of our efforts. Also,
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he motivated and encouraged us by saying you
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should always follow this method. In short, the
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lecture was so amazing and nice that we felt
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excited and did not feel in that period of that
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time. Okay, thank you very much. Do you want like
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to read yours? Okay. Is anybody willing? Yes?
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Okay.
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At night, when I came to write my daily report, at
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night, when I came to write my daily report, I
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decided to write about what happened in Arab world
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last week. As a Palestinian people, we hadn't
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heard on the following news for a long time. But
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when the exchange prisoner deal achieved between
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Hamas and Israel government with Egyptian eye,
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mediation with Egyptian mediation. The Palestinian
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city had celebrated in the national wedding a
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request to release about more than 1,000
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Palestinian prisoners of the Israeli prisons.
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Through this happy news, the education minister
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and others announced a vacation of three days.
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Also, among this happy news, we hear the falling
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of Gaddafi's body and his guards among the Libyan
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rebels. And we hope to listen more, more happy
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news. Yeah, and Gaddafi has to do with Raleigh
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because, you know, Gaddafi thought, like Marlow,
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that life and palaces will remain forever. You
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know, yesterday I read an article, من القصر إلى
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السرداب إلى القبر. So I changed it in my mind, من
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القصر إلى الوكر ثم القبر. Because this is how it
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should be like this. And we hope to listen more
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happy news about the Arab leaders following
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scenario in Arab Spring Revolution.
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Although the winter season will soon, the spring
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revolution will continue. In the other hand, about
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pottery class, last class we started a new poem
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for Dari. Yes, and we finished it today. Thank you
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very much. Good. Thank you and take care. Okay,
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see you next time, Inshallah.
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