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How are you? After this long vacation, the Eid, I
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wish you had a nice time celebrating, eating.
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Eating everything, of course, sweet and meat. Yes,
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today I don't want to waste more time. Today we
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are going to look at Better My Heart closely after
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what we did last time, if you remember. We gave
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you a general background about mythological poetry
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in the 17th century, and we saw how the 17th
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century was a century of uncertainty. But today,
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you know, and I remember we talked about the
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metaphysical poets and we saw how those poets were
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writing difficult poetry, poetry which was
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characterized by its conceits, paradoxes, images,
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tough rhythm or tough diversification, and like
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the blending between passion and mind. So today we
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are going to look closely at, you know, the poem,
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analyze it, see some of these characteristics.
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However, you know, as usual, I'm looking forward
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to hearing, to listening, you know, sorry, to
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listening to your wonderful reports after this
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long vacation. So let's see who has a creative
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report.
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Don't tell me you don't have reports. Okay. Yes?
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Do you have one? Not creative? Okay. Oh my God.
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Let's see. You come here, okay? Take my place.
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Many would consider it a holiday, others consider
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it as a transitional period. Spending nine days
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holiday was a mess, that it came during hard times
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of exams and assignments. Wake up early, do many
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things, that all what we used to not to do during
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last days. Now we are on again, different mornings
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and different faces, just a word can help us.
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Okay, thank you very much. It's very laconic,
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whereas, you know, It seems like she was very
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clever in wasting or at wasting her time. You
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didn't? Okay, good. So let's see another report.
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Yes. Yeah.
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Of course, we'll see a response as well. No
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problem. Say good morning. How are you? They're
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waiting for you. Good morning, everybody. How are
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you?
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After enjoying Eid and being so interested and
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happy, we come back to the university and began to
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study. Actually, it was a beautiful Eid, but with
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a mixture of fright and feeling, because of the
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beauty of Eid, but we heard of the coming exams
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and such things. Referring to the previous lecture
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of poetry, it was so nice, and we discussed the
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metaphysical poetry, and then the teacher ordered
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us to prepare the next kind of poetry. Yeah, I
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don't order. I just told you, because order, that
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means like I'm very authoritative ordering
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everybody. Good. Let's see a response. Yes.
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Response how you found the poem like was it good
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interesting? like was it like how my daughter felt
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was very Horrifying poem she even didn't sleep I'm
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sorry. I didn't mean that but this is mythical
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poetry He asked the name of the three-person God
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to batter his heart. For him, God only knocks
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politely and seeks to mend, while he wants to be
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torn apart, to rise and stand, to be new. He loves
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God and wants God to love him too, but he
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considers a mercy aid will not make him chaste.
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nor his lust would fade. So he wants God to knock
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him down, just as a defeated town. Well, John
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Donne, I'm telling you, if you want to be renewed,
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first, there is only one God, and salvation comes
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through your heart, not by force or in prison for
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life. If you mean it, then you can have it. Yes,
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thank you, Rawal. This is very creative response.
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And I like it very much because she's responding
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to the poem from a Muslim perspective, you know?
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Because, I mean, we have our beliefs and, you
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know, perhaps, you know, she responded that from a
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Muslim perspective because we believe, you know,
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like Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala is only one, you
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know, and we have differences between, you know,
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Islam and Christianity, other religions. Okay,
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now, any other response? Yes?
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Hello everybody. Try to forgive me Allah.
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Remorseful I am and I want to begin with a new
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life without any fright. Please Allah forgive me
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about my telling of lies. I am trying to be a new
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one, but I am sick for your life. I am admit I
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have lots of faults, but I know you are the
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greatest Lord. Regarding my eyes, I will keep it
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from the ugliness. According to my eyes, I have to
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protect it from the liars. You and me have the
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same and only enemy. By your power, you can burn
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it by your harsh fire.So make me away from his
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evil plans, and try to forgive me because of my
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listening to Satan, your only enemy, and I will
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revenge from him, and this is my greatest pledge,
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in order to make my life happiness, and allow me
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to enter your heaven. In short, the most thing I
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want to be happy from your adorer. Okay, thank you
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very much. You know, this shows like, you know,
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even the poem is written like, you know, by a
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Christian who was mainly Catholic. But, you know,
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we have something to share because, you know, her
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response is full of supplication. You know what
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supplication means? She's imploring. She's
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imploring. She's praying. you know, and she's
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hoping that God would take her to heaven, to
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eternal paradise. So, you know, the poem is not
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totally, you know, contrary to our beliefs, but we
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have something to share. And perhaps, like, I
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still remember when I was teaching metaphysical
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poetry, I asked this question, to what extent do
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you think that metaphysical poetry intersects or
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even deviates from our beliefs as Muslims. Okay,
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now let's see your response orally. What do you
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think, you know? What do you think? What do you
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think of the poem? Yes, please.
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Yes.
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So this is the idea of Trinity, the Father, the
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Son, and you know, The Lord. Okay. And so you know
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that was disturbing to you? Sorry? So that was
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disturbing to you. How did you feel about this? I
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feel his ideology is mistaken. You know, the
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belief itself, you know? In my mind. Okay.
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Yeah if you like debate with you know a Christian
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they would tell you like there was a debate
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between Ahmed Didat and like you know a Muslim and
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he said we are three but we are one you know it is
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like He said like a state of water when it is gas,
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when it is liquid, when it is frozen. This is how
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they argue. And you have to prepare yourself how
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to argue against also this. Good. What do you
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think? Yes?
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The language easy and difficult at the same time?
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Yeah, yeah, like you like the language is easy,
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but the ideas are difficult. Yes, you are right.
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The language, you know, is easy, but the ideas are
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difficult. I don't know. Do you know why? Do you
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know why? Who can tell me why? The language, if
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you look, better my hearty person got. The word
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better might be difficult, but it's easy. Usurp
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might be difficult. So I think the poet uses
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simple words, but I bet like a lot of you found it
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difficult to understand. Why? Why? Was it
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ambiguous? Yes? Okay, for religious reasons,
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because we don't understand the creed. Because,
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you know, of the argument. Yeah, I think when you
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have an argument, it is easy to understand. But
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you are not answering the question in my mind, you
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know, you're not reaching the answer in my mind.
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Yes. Yes. What do you mean metaphorical?
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And I think you are clever in analyzing a
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metaphor, you know? Okay, what do you think? Yeah,
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you're right to some extent, but you have to
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develop this idea. Yes? Maybe because he wrote it
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to the intellectual people, so they will
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understand it. Yes, but you know, what are the
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features of difficulty in this poem? Why it is
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difficult? Yes? Paradoxes. Excellent. The
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paradoxes. The conceits. You know? When you are
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using paradoxes and conceits, even though the
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language is simple, but still you are having
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difficulty in analyzing because you need to employ
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your mind to analyze those paradoxes and conceits.
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And this is what I'm trying to get you to do
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today. Yes? More? What do you think? Yes, please.
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How did you find the poem? Not easy. Why? What do
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you mean by not easy?
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So you want like everything to be without
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reasoning or what? I think nowadays, you know, we
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in
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this century, we are in the age of technology and
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still we appreciate what is being thought of this
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in this way. I mean, thought of in this way. So we
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still accept, we like intellectual things.Okay,
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there. How did you find the poem? It's an easy
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question. Yes? When I read the poem, I felt
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horrible because like when I read the lines, I
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feel that I remember the judgment day and we
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haven't got anything, our mistakes, our sins and
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since that and despite this poem is for a
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Christian one and there are many Christian ideas,
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it also invites us to think about ourselves and
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our Muslim and our Islam But our Muslim
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perspectives, since we should think about how to
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renew and how to free ourselves from our sins and
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mistakes. Yeah, how to free our, yes. So we might
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share the poet the same experience because here we
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have a poet or a persona who is happy. Now what?
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Sad? Was he sad or happy? Quickly. Sad. Why? Don't
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tell me because he was happy, he was sad. Because
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this is a paradox. Why was he sad?
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Oh, three people are answering. Why was he sad?
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much. Very good. The idea of original sin is very
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important, you know, and original sin, like, this
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is like central to Catholic and Protestant, you
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know, and even the Protestants said, like, in
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Adam's fall, we sinned all, because all, you know,
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the Christian, whether Protestant or Catholic, you
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know, believe that we, people are born sinners,
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and this is the original sin. You might have an
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idea about the original sin. But the Protestants
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thought that you can free yourself out of this sin
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by good deeds. and by good deeds. However, the
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Catholics believe that you can free yourself out
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of the sins by your body. See? By your body.
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Exactly like when Jesus Christ sacrificed his body
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on the cross and then he purified his soul, he
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redeemed even humankind. Okay? Good. Thank you for
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bringing these ideas because, you know, they will
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help us. And that's why I think everybody should
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come ready with a response. A final thing before
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we start? Good. Yes? Did he ask God to forgive
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him?
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During the poem, he asks for forgiveness for being
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guilty and dealing with Satan, taking the way of
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Satan. But like, where is that? I don't think, you
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know, it is in the poem. He's asking God for, you
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know. You can understand from the whole poem.
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Yeah. From the whole poem, you know? Because I
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think, you know, take me to you, imprison me, for
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I accept you, enthrone me, shall never be free,
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and never ever chase except you ravage me, you
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know? So it is there in the poem, like, he thinks
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that he will not be free, free out of sins,
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unless, you know, he, God, you know, imprisons
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him, you know, and this is like one of the many
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paradoxes we're having in the poem. Okay, it's
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good, like, before we start, do you think this
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poem is full of paradoxes? Okay, let's try to list
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them, you know, take two minutes, tell me what are
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the paradoxes in the poem. Okay, just like how
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many paradoxes do we have in the poem? Okay, let's
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see now. Yes, what are the paradoxes in the poem?
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Yes?
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Yes, how can you, can you flatten this? You know
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what I mean? Flatten it, you know, just like make
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it easy, accessible. Can you flatten it? Also, I
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don't think that you are going to break a lot of
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things in your house to make them new.
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I don't know, like how? Yeah, but, yeah, I mean,
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do you think this, can you, in your mind, like,
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think of something which is burned, which is
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broken, and then it is made anew?
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No? No, sometimes, like when we burn a rod of
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iron, You know, when it is rusty, we burn it, and
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then it becomes shining. You see what I mean?
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Because the rust. So this makes sense. But I don't
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know how you break something to make it new.
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For example, a door which is always causing you a
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problem, and you want to make a new door, you
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break it, and then it opens easily.
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Yes? Yes,
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so you mean when, like when he's burned, when the
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body is burned, all the sins will fly away, you
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know, and he will be a new person without sins.
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And this is central, as we said, to the Catholic
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beliefs, because they believe that it is the body
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which is the place of the sin. Once the body is
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burned, all the sins will go away and you will be
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free again. Wow, good. Yes. Yes? There is another
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one, imprison me. Yeah, imprison me to make me
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free. Wow. Imprison me to make me free.
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Can you like flatten or explicate this paradox
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from a daily situation, you know, or a situation
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from our life? How is in prison or how is prison
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freedom? You know? How sometimes his prison, look
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at him at Khaled. Khaled is, you know, there in
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the boot. He's imprisoned, but he's free. He can
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look at us. He can, you know, smile. He can
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everything, you know? Yes? Like people who are
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imprisoned in their own land, they are free of the
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prisons? Yes, look at us. We are in our land. We
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are in a siege. You know, we are imprisoned, but
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we are happy because this is our land. You know,
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it is better to be imprisoned in a different land.
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So when we are imprisoned, and this is like
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perhaps the mistake of our grandparents when of
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course they were forced to leave, you know, but
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now they prefer like they felt sorry because they
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left because the Arab leaders told them to leave,
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you know, and in 15 days they will go back. You
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see what I mean? So yes, we are under the siege,
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but we still, we are happy because this is our
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country. You know, this is our country. Good.
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More,
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yeah, paradoxes, but let me just remind you, I
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think once Ibn Taymiyyah said like, you know, my
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prison, you know, is a solitude for me, a
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solitude. You know what solitude means? It's like
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it's a place where he can worship God easily. And
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look at our prisoners, like those who were freed
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prisoners, they were released. Most of them were
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knowledgeable. Most of them were scholars. You
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know, they were educated and they were
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intellectuals. because they were in prison, they
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were not wasting their time, they were reading. So
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prison for them freed them from ignorance, from
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illiteracy.
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Okay, good. So I'm very happy. That's why we think
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that metaphysical poetry is intellectual, because
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it needs a skill of analyzing. A skill of
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analysis, yes. Good. More, more. Like, so far, you
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have burn make me new. This is number one. You
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know, imprison me to make free. Free, where is
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that? The third.
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Okay. The bottom, yeah. Imprison me to make me
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free. And I think, you know, it is the same idea,
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enthrall me, which is imprison. Okay, what else?
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What about, you know, shine and break, break in
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order to mend? You know? Yeah. Yes. Overthrow me
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to rise again. Like once been overthrown, knock me
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down to rise again. Do we have this in our
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Religion, like, do we, you know, sometimes pray
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God, like, to do this for us? How? Like, how do
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we, like, ask God, like, yeah, Allah to do this
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for us? You know, I sometimes I hear some people
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say, may I, you know, live a poor, and like even
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be accompanied by the poor in the day after like
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in you know they they they say that and some
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people you know are happy when they are inflicted
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you know what's mean inflicted they are happy you
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know they become patient so we have something
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similar to this like yes
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So mistake is not seen totally as something
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negative. Mistake is something foolish, but if we
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don't Like sometimes it is seen as something good,
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because it is a chance for us to learn, to repent.
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So a mistake is not totally seen as something bad.
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Yes? When Allah inflicted us by a difficult
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situation, we go back to Him, we improve. Yes,
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very good, very good. Yes, when we are inflicted,
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we become close to our Creator. We become close.
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And this is an advantage of inflection. Wow, good.
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So I think you started to be metaphysical. You
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started to be intellectual. Good. So more? I know
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the last line is a little bit difficult. It is
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very erotic, but this has to do with the queer,
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the strange philosophy of John Donne, which has to
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do with their beliefs. Okay, I don't want to
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explain this now, but later. Let's see. Better my
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heart, three person God. Better my heart. You can
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say batter my heart, break. Why not, you know,
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like batter my heart? The word batter make it into
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shutter. Batter means batter my heart. So what
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does the word batter, if he says like, you know,
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no, no, no. Not bomb. destroy even though I'm just
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like looking for a more remove my heart change my
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heart yeah but why is better my heart is more
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effective and what does it mean better my heart it
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is stronger and when because you know why why is
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he using stronger words he's angry with himself
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Better my heart.
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Yeah, very good. Strong sin. You know, because the
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sin is strong, so he needs a power, a force.
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Better my heart. Three-person God. Three-person
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God. A three-person God, like this is a reference
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to Trinity. Trinity, the Father, the Son, and the
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Holy Spirit. As yet, but not breathe, shine, and
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seek to mend. Like, if you paraphrase this, it is
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easy. I will never be mended unless, you know, I'm
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broken, unless my heart is shattered and broken to
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pieces. As yet, but not Without looking at me,
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without breathing, shining, and seek to mend, I
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cannot be mended. So look here how he perceives
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himself. He perceives himself as a guilty person
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who is, let's say, not fixed, not mended. He needs
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some power to mend him. That I may rise and stand,
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overthrow me. Overthrow me.
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Overthrow me. Kill me. Bring me down. Overthrow
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me. Let me fall in order to rise. So how? This is
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the idea of infliction. We cannot be strong. You
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know, because when we are inflicted, we become
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closer to God. We become very intransigent,
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intransigent like very powerful. We become more
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perseverant, more patient. Yes, that I may rise
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and stand, overthrow me, and bend. And bend what?
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Your force to break, blow, burn, look, to break.
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I mean what is interesting here we are moving from
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one conceit still like the conceit of being a
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usurped town, we can understand it. And we
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understand Satan, ah God, Satan is like occupier
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and this town will not be freed
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or let's say liberated until God
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intervenes and then helps in that. Here, reason
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your viceroy. Reason, what's mean viceroy? I
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think, you know, like those who used to smoke,
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they know that there is something called viceroy
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cigarettes, you know, viceroy cigarettes. But
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viceroy, what's mean viceroy? Ah, you have not
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been preparing the poem. You have not been using
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your dictionaries. I'm sorry. Huh? Viceroy means?
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Deputy. Viceroy means representative.
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Yeah. Your reason is your viceroy. And here
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reason, it is more than the mind. It is the soul
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itself. It is the soul, which, you know, is the
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representative of God in man. You know? And I
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think also as a Muslim, we think that we are, we
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are having this divine power. This divine, this
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divine thing in us, which is the soul, is from
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God, from Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala. So, he means,
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reason your viceroy in me should defend, but is
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captive, like this is the conceit, but is captive,
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and proves weak or untrue. How God, how come it is
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captive? What is captive here? The soul, the
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reason. What is captive? What captivates? No, no,
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no, no, no. If you don't answer this, you will
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never understand the second conceit.
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No, you're not warm?
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Yes? Try to use your mind? No? I'm sorry, I won't
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tell you until you answer it.
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Yeah, the question is like, the soul is captive.
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How? Can you elaborate this?
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No, no, no, no. Yes, the body. Thank you very
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much. It is captive by the body. The body for the
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Christian is, you know, the place which, you know,
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captures the soul. And the soul won't be itself
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until it is... So this is the second conceit. You
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see? So we have two conceits here. I think we have
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to stop here because this poem, as you see, is
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very interesting and it is realistic and it
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requires some of our intellectualism, you know,
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like we have to employ our understanding, but it
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is very interesting. So next time we're going to
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spend another class analyzing this poem and
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perhaps like to give you some background or
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revision about the exam. We can talk about this
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either on Monday or Wednesday. Thank you very much
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and continue preparing for this poem.