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Today, by mistake, I scratched my friend's new Tundra 2023. I feel terrible about it and I have, for hours, being looking online for the best remedy to render the car like pristine.
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All the detailers I spoke to said they couldn't do anything to blend it in as the scratch is too deep. I have consulted some bodyshops and scuff repair places as well. Any thoughts, advice or experience with this kind of thing?”
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I'm not sure why they went Gloss black on the GT front but matte on the EB. Glossy sucks to clean and scratches easily.
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They get hot as hell in summer, show scratches and paint defects easy, and obviously show dirt immediately. I will never buy a black car again.
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If I could do again I would have got a lighter color. They really make the BAP pop. Plus dark colors show scratches, swirls and dirt so much more. Really hard to keep my truck clean and looking good.
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Black cars in general don’t hold their value as well as other colors due to black paint showing scratches and swirls extremely easily. These are not investment vehicles, at the end of the day they are economy Chrysler products made with very little concern for quality control.
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I have a balck soul and it’s hell to keep clean, if you live in a place with snow and salt it’ll be even harder. And unfortunately it shows dings and scratches way easier than other colours. If you have a choice go for the gray one
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Oh and consider yourself blessed you got meteorite, I have sonic and swirl marks and scratches are so easily seen, with grey it hides much better
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We bought my wife's new Honda Pilot in 2017 and I was probably paid way too much attention to the scratches and how to prevent them with no luck. Now the car is covered with scratches in high touch areas - door handles, door step (or whats it called?), trunk step/edge of trunk, door edges.
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VW Tiguan has been massacred by deep scratches, I have been experimenting with different pad combinations trying to remove the deep scratches.
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never buy a black, yellow or white colored car if you don’t want the dirt or scratches noticeable. for one black colored vehicles are the worst in terms of keeping it away for scratches/swirl marks and are easily noticeable even is the slightest bit.
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22’ owner here. 1.5 years & 25k miles. Never had an engine light or anything (knock on wood) main issue with the car is the paint quality honestly, and a little rattle from the exhaust here and there. The car scratches easily but that’s a known Hyundai paint issue.
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My 2021 Blue Kia Soul has scratches all over it. It is only a year old. Something has changed.
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Ok so truck is very nice the the only cons i have found yet is the paint is realy shet it scratch so easily i only have 30.000 km on it so nothing has broke yet it still kinda new.
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Didn’t see anything wrong with the truck at the dealer yesterday (truck wasn’t perfectly clean as they never are at dealerships). I got home later and washed the truck and began to find multiple issues with the paint. Scratches on it that are down to the primer, poor coverage of paint on the front edge of the passenger rear door where the front door meets it, huge pieces of debris on the gas lid/door sills/and other places. I also had scratches that ran the entire length of the roof.
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Stay away from the black. Toyota black paint is too soft. I swear the air scratches it
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Take care of your old car! It will last a long time. My first car was a 1989 Corolla that rusted away to nothing. My current car is a 2006 Corolla that is currently starting to rust away. It sucks because mechanically I had no issues. Salt, man.
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Paint issues 2022 Rav4 hybrid black? just want to say my white rav4 hybrid has rust developed under paint already, 4 month of ownership
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the other day I happened to be standing taller than the roof and saw that I have two very large rust spots on the roof and tons of little rust spots on the hood and hatch. The ones on the roof look like the paint is washing away, like it was hit with acid. I went to the dealership I purchased it from today and the service tech was pretty useless, referring me to Toyota USA.
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I have a 2022 tundra and it’s showing rust corrosion on passenger side roof edge. Any one else have the same issue? And is it covered under warranty?
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And the paint issues begin 😔 2020 with 45k miles. I didn't try to absolve myself as I clearly stated I replaced the windshield and spend time at the beach. A lot of the rust spots look like blisters on top of the paint, not chips. Possibly iron embedded in the paint [from my environment]. Yes, not Toyota' fault but the lack of clear coat doesn't help. Super white is more prone to rust/chips/peeling because of the lack of clear. Or maybe it's just shitty paint in general. (But I know it's my fault for choosing super white)
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My dealer hasn’t activated the Qmerit install benefits, I guess I need to call them tomorrow, my sales guy not responding to me at all. I still need to get the paint issue taken care of, found rusted paint when taking delivery.
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I have a 2010 2-Door Civic I got from my dad, all is well on it except for the rusted paint (common in Hondas anyway) and I’m looking for very low end, affordable way to make the car look presentable for the last few years of its life
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Jeeps tend to have pretty terrible paint all around. You might still be within paint/rust warranty though so worth a shot at the dealer.
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Do the type r civics have better build quality than just a standard civic excluding the performance aspect? Such as better paint/ materials? Or does it age and paint rust and bubble just like any other civic?
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I stopped buying Ford years ago because of this. When I bought a mustang, the headers were completely rusted in the first month, and it constantly had issues with corroding hoods. I looked into it, and so many of the 2010s and later mustangs have corrosion on the lip of the hood. The 2000s Expedition my family had rusted through the roof, because the divets let water pool long enough to make it through the paint.
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Fords paint and rustproofing game has been very much abysmal these past 10yrs. My partners 2yr old escape had cancer on the door bottoms.
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Our white Atlas CS has SHIT paint. It’s covered in rock chips and rust spots.
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I think we should start a class action lawsuit. I have a 2015 White Hyundai Elantra limited that I bought in 2018. The paint has peeled off half the roof and is rusted along with the hood and now side panels. Screw Hyundai!!.
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Anything but a Corolla. My sister got one new for her graduation, the paint started peeling after just 6 months with rust spots underneath
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I wouldn’t cal it bad ownership at all. Hyundai’s paint is notoriously crappy, and rust issues are quite common. Just consider yourself lucky.
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Bought a new Jeep JLU a few years ago. Sport S with manual transmission. It had at least six recalls in the time I owned it for paint/rust on the door hinges
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@artsr2002 - I feel ya man. My clear coat is so far gone it’ll take a repaint.
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Paint, better looking than my 2000 Tacoma. Clear coat is going. Fading in some spots.
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I got a 2019 camry se model. It's decent. The only thing I don't like about it, is the paint on it and clear coat is very thin. Maybe in a few years it'll start coming off
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By you researching it before buying it. It sucks I know. But Toyota has had a history of frame rot in their trucks and white paint that the clear coat disappears from over time... Neither of these things is new by any stretch of the imagination. The stain near the protective film isn't due to the paint, that's inherent to the plastic film. My 19 Silver Sky Metallic has the same crap.
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Trust me, you can't just clearcoat over where clearcoat has peeled or faded. I've tried it a few spots on a project, its very obvious and bad.
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Let’s see your Black Civic’s - I have one 2015. After 10 years that nice shiny black coat is full of rock impacts and the clear coat is fading.
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Darker colors tend to look faded much more quickly because any imperfections in the clear coat are easy to see.
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Honda's also always had issues with non-powertrain things like their paint (failing clear coat especially) and A/C. I think my old 06 Civic started fading within a few years
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Crazy how some Hondas, not just the CRZ, the clear coat fails and the paint starts to fade.
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Having paint problems. how can i fix this? The clear coat is failing. The only way to fix it, that I’m aware of, is to sand it down and reapply it.
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Is the clear coat going to fail down the road? I saw the post here a bit ago where someone else’s ‘17’s clear coat was failing. I didn’t realize clear coat could be an issue on modern cars.
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I need to paint the top, the clear coat has started failing pretty bad on top.
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I was told that water based clear coat is being used on the stangs and that it doesn't hold up well. I have multiple rock chips and my clear coat is all scuffed up.
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Paint guy here. The clear coat is failing. You can't touch this up. Needs to be fully sanded and painted.
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Do you live/drive in a snowy area with road salt? Or live near the coast? Just curious as my first assumption is that clear coat is begining to fade. Seems like an atypical spot! Really spoils the look of a newer car!
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I’m not sure if it holds true for metallic red, but red paint is the worst for sun fading and having the clear coat peal. With there being talk about how thin the paint/clear is on these trucks I imagine it could be worse than normal with them.
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I currently own a Santa Cruz and an Elantra. The ONLY issue we've ever had was the white paint peeling off my '16 Elantra... I had it repainted at MAACO for $1200.00, and gave the car to my daughter for her first ride. We wouldn't be loyal to junk.
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Meanwhile...... "Here at Chrysler/Dodge we make cars with rust and peeling paint from the factory!"
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My 2019 Pacifica showed blisters and paint peeling off and we had to take it in for getting it painted. Everything was covered under warranty. The hood is aluminum and hence it is not rust. But the issue looks similar to rust. Only happens along the edges of the hood.
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I took my 2013 Corolla in for peeling paint before the warranty expired and they didn't submit pictures until after it expired.
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Toyota fixed my peeling roof paint on my 2015 RAV4 at no charge even though it was way out of warranty. I appreciate when they stand behind their products.
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Don't get a Honda! All Hondas, not just the Odyssey, have a peeling paint problem that starts hitting at 7-10 years of age.
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If it is white, watch for paint peeling.
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I used to love Honda and still sort of do, they were my favorite brand but a ton of paint on my 2016 Civic started peeling last year and the dealer and Honda both gave me the run around. Decided to stop wasting my time with them.
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5th Generation 2017. And I park away from everybody, keep my car clean like I mentioned. Waxed every three months. Detailed once a year inside and out. The paint peeling issues was the finale nail in the coffin.
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Nice car. I have a 2018 Civic Hatchback (17,000 miles) and the paint is peeling. Side mirror, spoiler and door handles have to be repainted. A little discouraging.
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Back again… I bought this 2017 Civic Hatchback early this year and have been dealing with peeling paint. The first area I discovered soon after the purchase so the dealership fixed it at no-cost. Now I’m dealing with more paint peeling in different areas and Honda says I’m out of luck since the warranty expired. I’ve seen similar posts on here about paint issues and think it’s ridiculous that Honda hasn’t been held more accountable for this.
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I also have a 2016 GMC Terrain where the hood is peeling off paint, coincidentally yesterday was looking for my SUV in a parking lot and saw what I thought was my vehicle by the paint peeling off the hood and it was another terrain with the identical areas where the paint was peeling. Don't understand why the class action was dropped.
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I have a 2016 gmc Denali 3500 with only 80k miles. My paint peeling also on one of my back doors. Took it into reliable gmc here in Roseville California. They had a tech look at it to confirm, he also took a paint scan tool around the truck and found a couple more spots that were going to start peeling. The service manager also had another file on his desk for another truck same make just newer year but his paint was peeling also in the same exact spot as mine. That guy just had to pay 400 and gm took care of the rest to fix the truck. I thought ok sucks to pay 400 when it’s not my fault but better than nothing.
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That amount of paint peeling is a factory defect, nothing more. Poor paint adhesion to the primer or they are incompatible with each other. I don't have much faith that Buick will help you out in this situation. Paint longevity in the modern EPA / safe chemicals era is pretty terrible and this issue seems to be becoming more frequent across different makes.
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personally I'd back out. I have a 2024 kia carnival. within 10 days, the paint was peeling on the trunk. I also waited months for this to come in. when I brought it back in, they said I'd be responsible for the vehicle rental while they fixed it.
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Talk to my Daughter about her 2022 Toyota Camry Nightshade edition and the paint peeling off of it at 8,000 miles and the dealership won’t return a phone call……
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Most Kia’s I see have the paint chipping away anyway.
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I've got the same issue on my 2022 sierra denali. Low miles, seems the very purpose of the protective orange peel stone guard is in itself the problem. It is soft and chips easier than the regular garbage paint on gm's. My whole truck has got more chips than it should. Dealer says my problem is caused by the A/T tires I put on for all season driving. Of course it couldn't be their paint!
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The 8 speed stock transmission is absolute dog doo doo same with the lifters. Oh and my experience chipping paint due to GM factory adhesion issues. Besides that it’s a good truck I like. Got a 2016 GMC Sierra 1500 6.2L.
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My paint is fucked already (2017 f150) so the shit is chipping everywhere sadly.
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Nissan put half assed base coat on and let it go. This chipping and peeling happens to a lot of water based painted cars. Ford escapes are really notorious for paint chipping. Ford cuts corners a lot and Nissan too. You’re not going to be able to spot fix that, the whole car is messed up from factory.
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2012 Kia Forte owned since 2014 has had a couple spots of paint start chipping around the car. Mostly on the trunk and driver side door frame. Any suggestions as to how to repair this?
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This paint is really soft and prone to chipping, and combined with the steep angle of the hood it’s a rock chip magnet
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I think the paint chipping issue unfortunately happens to all new Hyundais and Kia’s. I’ve owned my K5 GT in wolf grey for about a month and the paint although it looks gorgeous it’s water based (from what I was told) and thin as hell so just normal highway driving I find more and more chips as time goes on.
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My 2016 GMC has paint chipping on hood! Company needs a recall! Yes, car has been under a shelter & only has 60,000 miles! This is clearly a factory defect as per every body shop I went to for an estimate on repainting hood! Any advice???
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Chevy’s infamous thin paint, i know they are repainting hoods to correct that chipping around the scoop. But the rest if the car they wont cover since they will consider “wear and tear”
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Has anyone else noticed the paint chipping easily? Didn’t have this problem with my 2018 Hyundai Elantra. The first day driving out of dealership a large truck kicked up a bunch of debris and caused these paint chips.
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Hyundai sent me a warranty letter in November which then I was notified was expired, they decided to replace my white paint, it’s chipping even more then before
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It’s white, that explains the chipping. Hyundai white paint is garbage.
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My 2013 Hyundai Sonata’s paint is chipping so bad. I have seen SO many white Hyundai’s with chipping paint. My question is, is Hyundai doing anything about it? Are they going to make things right and repaint the cars that are chipping?
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I have a 2017 pearl white Sonata. Paint chipping on the hood and roof, looks ratchet as hell. I’ve only ever gotten as far as asking the dealership j purchased it from if they would fix it once it started (when it was small and 5 yrs after purchase) and they told me it was likely out of warranty. It’s gotten much worse over the past year and I hate driving around in it looking like this.
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Try having a SmokeShow car. The chipping is completely unavoidable. I don’t think Dodge has good paint. I bought mine off the showroom floor and it had chipping on like day 3 lmao
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My coworker has had his Fit painted 3 times due to shitty factory paint. It would all flake off near the window.
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Indeed, between this, and the issues with the super white I think Toyota is going to have to rethink their painting. If they want to continue being thought of as high-quality product.
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Toyota paint isn’t known to be the most durable and the car washes that have the big brushes that whip your sh*t can definitely leave marks.
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I thought the messed up paint was an oem, factory direct feature? /s In all seriousness I used to work in collision repair and the painters hated getting jeeps because they’d have to replicate whatever issue was preexisting on the vehicle.
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There's been class actions against Honda for the 2006-2013 Civic and Acura paint defects and to this day Honda isn't honoring their agreement. My Odyssey EX-L had paint peeling off at barely 5 years old. Why am I surprised to find brand apologists telling reasonable adults to grow up on Reddit though.
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Well don’t trade up to a 14-18. From the factory the orange peel is terrible, and chips really easy too. I’m not sure about the 19+ body styles. I’d actually be curious to hear some feedback on them.
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Is it normal to have paint flaws on a new car? Even porsches have loads of them. Commonly even. Seen some fresh onto the showroom floor with machine swirls, dust knibs, haze, ripples, discoloration, solvent pop, etc. hyundai, kia, chevy, chrysler, and Subaru all suck.
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Looking for recommendations for best auto paint shop in NC that does high quality work. Chevy suburban hood oxidized due to factory paint failure. IYKYK. Thanks in advance.
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Mine have deep rust spots coming through. 2 body shops said they're obviously factory paint defects. Jeep doesn't care and refused to help pay to have them stripped and painted/powder coated.
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Ram and especially Jeep frequently have pretty bad factory paint issues
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Nice! The Ceramic coating will help the paint. I've seen a lot of people, myself included, with paint chips. The factory paint is pretty thin from what I can tell.
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I can tell you right now that the Civics factory paint is not better than most quality aftermarket paints, assuming you take the care to do it correctly.
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There are known paint defects with Hyundai-Kia white paint. Assuming this is factory paint, you should contact Kia and push them to fix it
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2015-2019 Silverados, Tahoes, and Suburbans had major paint issues on the hood and roof. I’ve experienced it myself, and the factory knew they had issues, but haven’t recalled them.
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Has the underground color and was commenting the other day about bad paint from the factory. I thought he was crazy until I went to look at one. Sure enough I went to the dealership and the black one I saw looked like it had already been through the car wash several times.
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Honda paint is notoriously bad.
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I have a black pickup too. Prepare mentally for it only looking clean for 10 minutes and also showing every swirl mark or imperfection no matter how careful you are.
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You won't notice it on light cars, dark colors will show the swirls, then the car will need to be polished to look the way its supposed too. Most people don't care, that's why car wash business is booming.
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Dude. I thought maybe it was me. Brand new. Three days old. Swirl marks. :(
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1500 is a bit high, but it depends on car color/paint quality and how much paint correcting has to be done. A black car may take a lot of work to remove all the swirls and make it perfect before applying the ceramic.

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