02.12.2012 – Episode #321 – Punisher MAX #22
Total Running Time: 01:07:51
February 12, 2012 – It's an extended edition of the podcast this week as Josh, Conor and Ron dive deep into the turbulent waters of comics this week. From the grizzly end of The Punisher MAX with issue #22 to the crisis of faith in collecting comics. It's a long one, but worth listening to…
00:01:34 – Nothing but praise for Jason Aaron and Steve Dillon for the end of the series with Punisher MAX #22
00:10:11 – A close second in the pick runoff for Conor was the excellent Secret Avengers #22 from Rick Remender and Gabe Hardman
00:16:200 – A chilling end to the miniseries with Severed #7
00:18:48 – Ron felt like Thief of Thieves #1 was off to a strong start from Kirkman, Spencer and Martinborough
00:22:35 – The next chapter in the comics legacy continued with Conan the Barbarian #1 by Brian Wood and Becky Cloonan
00:26:06 – 5 issues in and it doesn't fail to entertain. Both Conor and Ron are in love with Wolverine & The X-Men #5
00:30:20 – Conversely, Conor and Ron are shocked by how bad the art in Green Lantern #6 was
00:32:02 – Not a big surprise at how much Josh liked Lobster Johnson: The Burning Hand #2
00:33:25 – But it was a big surprise to Ron that Josh liked Scarlet Spider #2
00:35:26 – Kieron Gillen calls Ron out in the letters page of Journey Into Mystery #634
00:36:36 – Some big decisions in Buffy the Vampire Slayer Season 9 #6
00:38:09 – A fun one and done with Mephisto in New Mutants #37
00:38:44 – The Top 5 Community Picks of the Week.
00:39:39 – dix might be done with Demon Knights #6.
00:41:26 – DescendantDroogliked the story more than the art in Batwoman #6.
00:43:20 – Josh talks about his Book of the Month pick, Jim Henson's Tale of Sand
00:49:50 – Kevin asks about Garth Ennis' The Boys.
00:51:39 – Nathan from Albuquerque, NM might be done with comics.
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Lovedrop says:
It's 12:30 here but couldn't go to bed without listening to this. When are we getting the Video show back? Great jobs lads
mguy77 says:
Video podcast it has been gone for a few months. When will the video podcast haitus be over?
Sodapopcat says:
i take offense to being called a viewer. you guys should know were not viewers.
they know we're not viewers
DC says:
I was crushed (CRUSHED!) after learning that "ratings" was not an original creation. At least this time I get it. Thanks for turning me onto MATES…you thieving bastards. <3
Josh Flanagan (@jaflanagan) says:
PsychoJudgeDredd says:
Storm troopers hittin' the ground
RahUniQue says:
No discussion of Adventure Time. What the glob!
TheNextChampion says:
@RahUniQue: They probably never watched the show hence the lack of discussion. Although having children will change all of that…..
…Josh I'm looking at you! 🙂
True, I think only Conor watches the super-hero animated shows. But AT is so good. It works on some many levels. I watch it with my 6 & 13 year old and we all get different jokes. The 6 year old likes the physical gags. The 13 year old likes the silly poop humor. And i love it all. I love it's rich mythology and wealth of interesting characters. I think Paul likes AT.
Paul Montgomery (@fuzzytypewriter) says:
I've only seen a bit. It's fun. I did like the comic quite a bit. Timmy loves it. I don't know that I'd recommend it to any of the other staffers though. Not really their bag.
@RahUniQue: Agreed. Although it does disturb me a bit that the show takes place, apparently from the creator himself, after a post-apocalyptic event where many people died from. So it's like 'Salad Fingers' but not as disturbing….Well okay maybe just as disturbing.
The Spongebob Squarepants comics are pretty good too if you're looking for something for your kid. In fact, there are a lot of great comic adaptations for little kids for today's shows. I know back in the day I loved to have read the Ren and Stimpy/Rocko's Modern Life comics that occasionally came out.
We're not the audience for that, and subsequently, a review of it wouldn't do anyone any good. Also, none of us want to read it.
@josh: Oh you'll be watching it soon enough…
anassassinoftheleague says:
Love the responses you guys had on the email from Nathan. Couldn't agree more and Josh is totally on point with re-reading previous issues and story arcs.
Jeff Reid (@JeffRReid) says:
After hearing you discuss Tale of Sand, I paused the show, sat down, and finally read the thing. It was everything you all said and more. When I heard this announced at last year's C2E2 Achaia was really pushing the Henson angle, which makes sense. But the work that Perez did on it is amazing.
Thanks for reminding me to find time to read great comics.
I would also say to Nathan from Albuquerque, NM is go online, discover great web comics. iFanboy has been a great gateway to discovering fantastic artists. A lot of them produce fun work online & for sale. The site introduced me to Faith Erin Hicks. Her work has been so much fun. Granted it's capes & cowl , but i liked it. And admittedly, i am a BIG capes & cowl guy.
man, the response to Nathan from Albuquerque was disturbing. Just get used to it, basically. As a community our expectations are so low
Jurassicalien says:
This is the first time I ever had to stop the podcast at the beginning and listen to the rest of the song choice. Love Oingo Boingo.
supersnac90 says:
Nathan…(CHUSH)
Stormtoppers hitting the ground…I no longer have jokes of my own because of that show. I'll miss my imaginaiton.
MaxPower says:
Just wanted to say that I really enjoyed this episode, especially the response to the e-mailer looking for the "groundbreaking" mainstream work in the past decade. Really great honest and insightful answers, guys. And also, in case you don't hear it enough from the iFanbase, thanks to all three of you for the work you guys put in. The site is terrific and these podcasts (plural!) are appreciated for the entertainment and thought-provoking time they provide.
TheMythicalReader says:
RE: Nathan's e-mail- I distinguish between "same stories" that result from hyper-commercialism (i.e. artistic appeals to the lowest common denominator to meet financial goals) and those that resemble stories of the past simply because nearly all art is somewhat derivative. Tale of Sand, as an example of the latter, is certainly derivative in its surrealist approach to order and coherence and in its cultural allusions (it depicts many "classic" scenes found in Western cinema, literally repeating parts of past stories) but it manages to be interesting and enriching.
As implied by Ron's baseball analogy, there's also something kind of beautiful and meaningful in belonging to a community that shares in the same moments as you (even if they are repetitive or ritualistic) and with whom you share a vested interest in the same outcome (even if it's ultimately a trivial one).
OliverTwist says:
You guys answered Nathan's question excellently. Every once in a while we all need that outside force to give great advice when stuck in a tough spot. I gotta keep this podcast to remind myself when I get to this point. It was great advice.
mndrew says:
Hipster Konan says: "I'm crushing your armies in the name of Crom, he's this new, cool god that you've probably never heard of".