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pauldrulez 27-04-2009 01:26 AM
As I said earlier, Bill Belichick appears to be a comedian with his draft picks.
I have had a thought (to go with my broken hand, those on m facebook will know what happened), we have drafted 3/4 Defensive Lineman. Vince Wilfork for Julius Peppers? Top 5 Nose Tackle for a Top 5 pass rusher except Peppers is converting positions.
Anyway, I have liked 2 picks out of the 700 the Patriots have made.
Darius Butler and the Wildcat guy in Round 7 (Julian Edelman). Apart from that, Brace, McKenzie and the Long Snapper fit needs, so does Chung but not a massive need. The other picks are D-Line and O-Line (IIRC) not interested there at all.
Well, i'm off to vomit. 3 broken knuckles makes you feel very sick and drain lots of water.
P.S First time i've seen ESPN (i'm a loser), I liked it but McShay and Kiper spent a round arguing about ONE PLAYER. Apart from that, NFL Network has been good, Eisen is hilarious on Twitter and they've been trying to trick the audio truck.
Some very good drafting and the Raiders.
This took 15 minutes with one hand. :(
Come on Mr. Irrelevant
That's it for another 365 days as Pioli ends it with a kicker.
Time to start the big board.
Number 1. Taylor Mays, Safety, USC.
Good Luck to all 250+ players that enter the NFL. May they all have a safe, first year as the Patriots roll to 19-0 (joke, seriously, a joke), i'll attempt draft grades in between x-rays over the next couple of days.
Peace out.
Funk Butter 27-04-2009 06:57 AM
Originally Posted by pauldrulez
I can guarantee you a safety will never go #1 overall. Even if Mays is the best player coming out next year.
That's more the player i want next year.
Here's a guarantee.
Number 1 - Sam Bradford
With the 32nd pick of the NFL Draft, the New England Patriots select Tim Tebow. Belichick is in love with him. Even more than the press. With him and Meyer's relationship, it wouldn't surprise me.
Anyway, the Colts have taken an UDFA with possibly the best name in the history of the NFL.
Pat ****z - DT
nookiebear 27-04-2009 11:23 AM
I tihnk I have a tiny idea what Paul thinks about the Pats' choices ;)
But what about everyone else?
Mixed feelings about the Redskins
Brian Orakpo is obviously fantastic news. Albert Haynesworth, Orakpo and Andre Carter will be awesome next season
We drated CB Kevin Barnes of Maryland in the third. We need depth at CB so fine with that and he did this hit (see link) that made the Wide Receiver vomit :) I like hard hitting corners and safeties, he'll fit in well with Hall, Landry and Horton.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i26DRXC37fs
Then it all got a bit weird. Got a Linebacker in the 5th who was expected to be an UDFA and who was a running back until last season
Then picked up a linebacker in the 6th and then a Tight End/Full Back and a wide receiver in the 7th with our two final picks
Big problem for me? We didn't get any O-line help. Astounded they didn't at least draft one right tackle. Assume the FO know something Skins fans don't because it seems a crazy decision right now
I think Belichick had his head blown off on our choices. We have NO pass rush at all. 3rd and 20? Easy.
We have about 8 defensive linemen competing for 5 spots in the 53. So either Seymour/Green is cut/traded or we get a great deal for Wilfork. And god knows how many O-Linemen.
These players have been brought in as depth. Except for Butler, they wont start the first game.
Final rant over.
I like what the Jets did with their 2 picks. I like the Dolphins first day. I dislike my broken hand. Bills should have taken Orakpo ahead of Maybin.
I need to go through the rest of the teams when my draft tracker stops exploding.
jazman 27-04-2009 01:51 PM
Watched the 2 hour Draft programme on Sky Sports last night. Intrigued at all the razzamataz behind it all but not sure why that suprosed me as it is the States after all ... :)
Crabtree looked quite peed off by it all or was that the cameras making it look that way - wasn't too sure. By the 20th pick I was getting rather bored with it all considering the Cowboys weren't on the clock until way down the 2nd round, and they traded that one in the to the Bills I believe.
Still, 12 record matching picks with the Pats freshens up our team for next season and there is a QB in all that as well making things very interesting. Need to swat up on them though as I have no idea what any of them are like.
Big turn up the Jets getting in on the early action to grab Sanchez though ... making everyone at the place all very excited ... I think this one passed me by a little, my first foray into the NFL Draft ... maybe I will learn as time goes by.
Originally Posted by Vince Hilaire's Afro
This is the first time I've seen this on TV. Very disappointed to hear people in the crowd booing these young players before they've even touched the ball for their new team.
I realise some of this is because of inter-club rivalry, but the reaction of some of the players' own fans is pretty unpalatable. There was a classic shot of a disgusted Jets fan in the crowd when Sanchez's draft was announced.
I completely agree with your comments on this. I just did not get the treatment from the fans in any way.
Chief Brody 27-04-2009 01:58 PM
Well San Fran did OK for me, although we still have needs at QB, OT, NT, pass rushing OLB and safety.
Our wide receiver corps (which is already developing nicely - thank God), got an instant upgrade with Crabtree. That should add a further 300+ yards to Gore's numbers next season. Glen Coffee (RB), although a bit of a reach will hopefully take some of the hard yards off of Tank too.
Traded our 2nd and 4th picks for Carolina's 1st in 2010. With their harder schedule this year, that should prove beneficial. With these two 1st's, we could pick up a decent safety and NT or pass rusher next draft.
Picked up a Singletary type bluecollar ILB in McKillop and a posiible sleeper in Nate Davies at QB.
Bear Pascoe (blocking tight-end) was a need and we finished off with a safety and DT (neither of whom should make the final cut).
We are gradually improving but still have question marks at QB and need that pass rushing OLB and space eating NT. Depth at OT and a ball hawking safety and that's a decent team. It would have been a long time coming too!
[QUOTE=jazman]
Not according to Neon Deion. Crabtree has come to the right place, that's for sure.
saxoneagle 27-04-2009 02:09 PM
Funnily enough, I trust Bill from Boston rather than Paul from Pottyland. :p
Sh*t draft class, did the right thing trading around and saving some cash. Didn't we pick up 2 extra 2nds for 2010 for a draft class which could be 60 players deep in elite players?
Oh and McCoy > Bradford.
Originally Posted by jazman
Jets fans are c*nts, that's why. Was the same last year when half of them booed Gholston. They were proved correct though and lets hope Sanchez busts too :clown:
ardeo 27-04-2009 03:13 PM
Pretty pleased with the Eagles picks, looks like we will be putting our faith in Maclin along with Jackson as our mainline WRs. I like McCoy as cover for westbrook and apart from that we seem have got some decent back up. Only concern is a lack of cover in the OL.
Liked the fact at one stage we had 6 round 5 picks, until we traded two to the Pats for Hobbs!
Looks Like Sheldon Brown is on his way out, which would be a shame, in fact I think our D could be our main weakness this season.
Latvian Eagle 27-04-2009 03:37 PM
[QUOTE=Chief Brody]
I was of the opinion Crabtree was a bit peeved too to be fair. He was expected to go top 5 and he ended up 10th was it? Not only does he get a lot less money, but other WR's went before him.
Saying that I'd rather go to San Fran than some of the other teams down there in the top 10!
Yes, peeved as Darrius Heyward-Bey was taken as the first receiver over him. But seeing as the Raiders like quick, flash players with no substance, it was no great surprise. The Raiders wouldn't know a good player if he came up and poked them in the eye with a hot dog. And for that reason alone, all those in the foggy side of the bay should thank them humbly.
I don't believe he was peeved to be joining a team with great heritage and the ancestral home of the greatest wide receiver of all time.
nookiebear 27-04-2009 04:39 PM
It really does seem to be a poor draft class. Next year seems so much better.
Grumbling a bit about the Skins not drafting a Right tackle for the O-line, but think the below from scout.com sums it up. It's about the Skins drafting a CB in the third instead of O-Line
But for right now the Orakpo pick is, at worst, defensible.
It is the third-round pick of Maryland cornerback Kevin Barnes that has some folks irate. A third-round pick generally isn't an instant starter but he could be and, certainly, one would expect that the 80th overall pick, a first-day selection under the old draft schedule, would be ready to start at some point in the next year or so.
So why not a tackle here? I don't have access to the Redskins' draft board but one would have to assume that Barnes was the higher-rated player and that no offensive tackle was close.
You can say that Vinny Cerrato and company and the rest of the gang in Ashburn wouldn't know a good prospect if he sat in their lap and called them mama (to quote the commercial played endlessly over the course of the draft). The rest of the league, however, backs up that judgment.
After Barnes was drafted with the 16th pick of the third round, no team took an offensive lineman for the rest of that round. Not one. The next offensive lineman to go was a center, Jonathan Lugis out of Arkansas, with the sixth pick of the fourth round (106 overall). The next player listed as an offensive tackle to go was T. J. Land of Eastern Michigan, who went a few picks later to Green Bay with the 109th overall pick. A Google search reveals, however, that it appears that he is being thought of more as a guard than as a tackle.
You have to go to the 35th pick of the fourth round, all the way to pick number 135, to find the next tackle taken. Troy Kropog of Tulane went to the Titans with a compensatory pick. Reaching by 50 picks, a round and a half, to fill a need is not the way to build through the draft.
I guess the Skins are just hoping the offense improves in year 2 of a new system or that we'll win every game 10-3 :)
Funk Butter 27-04-2009 04:51 PM
That's how it works, you get all boozed up and yell at every pick. Jets fans have provided some classic moments.
Of course, the Philly fans booed the Donovan McNabb pick because they wanted Ricky Williams.
Not sure why that youtube embed isn't working:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZxNeFLuY98
Kaberle15 27-04-2009 05:28 PM
Tebow will be going top 5, perfect guy to have as the face of a franchise. Tebow and Bradford is certainly a better pair of QBs than Stafford and Sanchez imo.