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FBI executes search warrant at Mar-a-Lago
Discussion in 'North American Politics' started by Jayhawker Soule, Aug 8, 2022.
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From CNN ...
The FBI executed a search warrant on Monday at Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago resort in Palm Beach, Florida, the former President confirmed to CNN.
Trump declined to say why the FBI agents were at Mar-a-Lago, but the former President said the raid was unannounced and "they even broke into my safe."
"My beautiful home, Mar-A-Lago in Palm Beach, Florida, is currently under siege, raided, and occupied by a large group of FBI agents," he said in a statement.​
Warms the heart (even if glee is premature).
#1 Jayhawker Soule, Aug 8, 2022
Evangelicalhumanist "Truth" isn't a thing...
Jayhawker Soule said: ↑
You beat me to it, you bum!
Let's hold off on the schadenfreude for a bit, but one really should take from this that DOJ now has some certainty that they've got something to pursue.
#2 Evangelicalhumanist, Aug 8, 2022
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Was the search warrant for documents showing Trump purposefully incited a riot against the Capitol om 1/6/21?
#3 Suave, Aug 8, 2022
Polymath257 Think & Care
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Suave said: ↑
it doesn't appear to be for that. At this point, it looks like it was for mishandling official documents. Presidents are supposed to turn over certain documents when they leave office. If Trump did not and those documents were at his house, then he could be guilty of a felony.
That said, even if the search warrant was for one crime, any documents relevant to *other* crimes that are found can be used in other investigations.
#4 Polymath257, Aug 8, 2022
Evangelicalhumanist said: ↑
Great word (not "bum" but "schadenfreude" - although ...). You wouldn't happen to live anywhere close to Stratford, Ontario, would you?
I do not believe so.
Brickjectivity Turned to Stone. Now I stretch daily.
liber-scripta grim Christian
Under siege, raided and also occupied. All at the same time. Seiges usually happen before the raid and the occupation. Also the raiding usually is complete by the time the occupation begins. Its pedantry, but it matters.
#7 Brickjectivity, Aug 8, 2022
Polymath257 said: ↑
At this point, it looks like it was for mishandling official documents.
But is not the proper response for this: "LOCK HIM UP", or is that reserved for Hillary?
90 minute drive, with a tail-wind. I'm there a lot, actually, because I'm a huge lover of Shakespeare, and the Stratford Festival is Canada's greatest venue for that.
Let's see what a jury says. It may still happen.
#10 Polymath257, Aug 8, 2022
Brickjectivity said: ↑
The obvious point is that Trump is being victimized. His people will lap it up.
#11 Jayhawker Soule, Aug 8, 2022
Obviously that is what you would suppose. But as I pointed out elsewhere, the head of the FBI at this moment (who MUST have approved this!) is not a Biden appointee, and not a Democrat. He is Christopher A. Wray, appointed by Donald Trump in 2017, so to those right this instant screaming "liberal witch-hunt," I say, bull.
#12 Evangelicalhumanist, Aug 8, 2022
It is certainly too early to feel safe from his power grasping hands. I'm tempted to think that he's no longer in the running, but that isn't true. I do worry that he could, given a second chance, succeed (with assistance) in overturning the government somehow. I worry the same about Ted Cruz though. I have a lot of confidence, however, in our police and armed forces that they would not allow any coup. There could be an end-run around that however. The documents hopefully will help prevent him running again.
#13 Brickjectivity, Aug 8, 2022
InChrist Free4ever
As much Trump may be hated, I am surprised that some of you have such lack of discernment about this. Trump isn't the only one the FBI and DOJ are going after. There are other Republican candidates who are showing well in polls that are being targeted. Criminalizing the political opposition does not bode well for the republic and the democratic process. It's more like what Putin or a totalitarian regime would do. I don't think Trump was fit to be President and many accused him of being fascist and authoritarian, but I am afraid this is what we are seeing take place from the other side.
#14 InChrist, Aug 8, 2022
tytlyf Thought Criminal
Handcuffs are on the horizon.
#15 tytlyf, Aug 8, 2022
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And that's the problem. In a random pool of 12 people what percentage will be avid Trump fans? How does one legally filter such people out?
#16 Subduction Zone, Aug 8, 2022
InChrist said: ↑
There is no "criminalizing" going on. You may have forgotten what happened on January 6, 2021.
The FBI tends to be very apolitical.
Don't forget the toilets...
Photos of Trump Notes in Toilet Were Better Left to the Imagination
#18 Twilight Hue, Aug 8, 2022
I will soon be there for a week, along with a quick jaunt to Vineland Estates.
As much Trump may be hated, I am surprised that some of you have such lack of discernment about this.
Perhaps you're projecting.
Trump isn't the only one the FBI and DOJ are going after.