Moussaoui Trial Exhibits Released
dz Tue, 08/01/2006 - 5:53am
9/11 tapes are posted - Footage of terror attacks used as exhibits during Moussaoui trial
Videotaped footage of the 9/11 attacks -- some of it never seen outside a courtroom -- was posted on the Internet today by the federal government.
The website can be accessed here.
The images and recordings, some of them graphic, are among 1,202 prosecution and defense exhibits introduced in the government's case against Zacarias Moussaoui.
The video downloads are going incredibly slow at the moment, but a ton of stuff to check out.
We keep finding more things
We keep finding more things on how it's "improving" over in Iraq(so says Bush). Why here is a good example:
BAGHDAD, Iraq, July 28 — The two armored vans left a branch of the Warka Bank on Thursday around noon, loaded with 1.191 billion dinars, or nearly $800,000. Almost immediately, on a busy street near the Baghdad zoo, the drivers spotted an oncoming Iraqi Army convoy, led by a shiny new Humvee. They followed standard procedure and pulled over.
But the convoy stopped, and an officer politely ordered the surprised drivers and guards to lay down their guns while his men searched the vans for bombs.
Within minutes all eight drivers and guards had been handcuffed and locked in the back of one of the vans on a suffocating 120-degree day, the cash had been stolen by the men in the convoy — whoever they were — and the Iraqi banking system marked another day of its slow slide into oblivion.
The only thing atypical about ThursdayÂ's robbery, which was described by bank and Interior Ministry officials, is that most private banks try to avoid using armored vans, because they draw too much attention, and instead toss sacks of cash into ordinary cars for furtive dashes through the streets of Baghdad.
However the cash goes out, it risks being lost in the wash of robbery, kidnapping and intrigue that now plagues the system.
Praised by the United States as a success story as recently as a few months ago, that system has quickly become a wild landscape of clandestine cash runs, huge hauls by robbers dressed as police officers and soldiers, kidnappings of bank executives with ransoms as high as $6 million, American allegations of tie-ins with insurgent financiers, and legitimate customers turned away when they go to pick up their savings and flee the country.
Hussein al-Uzri, president and chairman of the Trade Bank of Iraq, a state-owned bank, said the risks of such deliveries had to be measured in relative terms. "Anywhere else in the world, throwing a few million dollars in the back of a Mazda and driving from the Central Bank is crazy," he said. "But many people will say that living in Baghdad is crazy."
Until the early 1990Â's, when Saddam Hussein allowed private banks to open under tight restrictions, all of the countryÂ's finances were handled by state-owned banks.
Mike Anti-Neo-Con (not verified) on Tue, 08/01/2006 - 12:03pm.
Wow these servers could not
Wow these servers could not be any slower. I wonder if it's to make sure that only the diehards persevere in downloading the relevant data.
Wumpus (not verified) on Tue, 08/01/2006 - 12:16pm.
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150K!
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we can't stop now!
CB (not verified) on Tue, 08/01/2006 - 12:16pm.
A long list of bullshit. Not
A long list of bullshit. Not one hard evidence- flight manifestos, surveillance cameras at the airports, no voice recorder, no flight data.
Just the planted passes.
And circumstantial evidence that there were some guys in the US.
If I was the judge...
Sitting-Bull
Don't they have the "supposed" cockpit voice recorder of the passengers discussing the drink cart??
Well that settles it all...
Well that settles it all... the pictures of flight 93 clearly show plane wreckage... this is such a farce... I suppose they claim the plane "vaporized"...
mr man (not verified) on Tue, 08/01/2006 - 12:21pm.
Sitting-Bull (not verified) on Tue, 08/01/2006 - 12:31pm.
Don't you all feel bad for
Don't you all feel bad for complaining about the government...you see they're doing all they can to get the truth out...!
Namaste2you (not verified) on Tue, 08/01/2006 - 12:32pm.
Wow, lots to see here.....I
Wow, lots to see here.....I hope someone can copy the videos and photos in the second section and make them more easily accessible on another web page.........
I found this diagram of the WTC damage interesting.
http://www.vaed.uscourts.gov/notablecases/moussaoui/exhibits/prosecution...
complete collapse of wtc3?
partial "collapse" of three other buildings?...thats a little loaded term, don't you think.?
Radical Pragmatist (not verified) on Tue, 08/01/2006 - 12:35pm.
Anyone elses having problems
Anyone elses having problems downloading the videos and audios?
T-Bone (not verified) on Tue, 08/01/2006 - 12:39pm.
NO server response here on
NO server response here on the audio and video files
CJ (not verified) on Tue, 08/01/2006 - 12:48pm.
Pentagon controversy
Pentagon controversy solved?
Hijacker ID found at Pentagon:
Passports and ID of hijackers found at flight 93 site:
dun dun dun!
pockybot (not verified) on Tue, 08/01/2006 - 12:51pm.
@ CB: LOL, I didn't see it.
@ CB: LOL, I didn't see it. But you are absolutely right. Even if, it will be the next fraud. Never saw such a fake CVR.
PS: Judge Brinkema:
[The government lawyers had done] "the most egregious violation of the court's rules on witnesses in all the years I've been on the bench."
because it was
"the only opportunity for the government to make a Sept. 11 case. This is it. There isn't another. The government has to cross every t and dot every i to ensure that the Sept. 11 families finally have their day in court. If it gets messed up over a technicality . . . there is no excuse."
said Juliette Kayyem, a terrorism expert at Harvard University.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/13/AR200603...
I can't get no .
Colin Alexander (not verified) on Tue, 08/01/2006 - 12:59pm.
Moussaoui could have pleaded
Moussaoui could have pleaded the 5th Amendment in that "show" trial. Just another patsie for the government,since they had no more use for him.
Doctored evidence is not challenged in court,real evidence is not used,this trial was the benefit for Bush and his ilk to show that, "hey look, a terrorist on trial".
Mike Anti-Neo-Con (not verified) on Tue, 08/01/2006 - 1:02pm.
Lots more magic
Lots more magic passports!
PA00101	Kingdom of Saudi Arabia ID card recovered from the United Airlines Flight 93 crash site
PA00102	Saudi Arabian Youth Hostel Association ID for Ahmed A. A. Al-Nami recovered from the United Airlines Flight 93 crash site
PA00103.2	Passport sized photo recovered from the United Airlines Flight 93 crash site
PA00105.08	Page 37 and part of U.S. Visa page from Ziad Jarrah's Passport recovered at the United Airlines Flight 93 crash site
PA00108	Kingdom of Saudi Arabia passport for Saeed A A A Al Ghamdi recovered from the United Airlines Flight 93 crash site
PA00109	Business card of Assem Jarrah recovered from the United Airlines Flight 93 crash site
PA00110	Part of Ahmed A A Al Nami's Florida Driver's License recovered from the United Airlines Flight 93 crash site
PA00111	Red bandana recovered from the United Airlines Flight 93 crash site
PE00102	Partial ID card reading ALHAZMI from the Pentagon crash site
Visitor on Tue, 08/01/2006 - 1:03pm.
And another WT00002	Kingdom
And another
WT00002	Kingdom of Saudi Arabia Driving License recovered from the World Trade Center
Does anyone else find it
Does anyone else find it strange that there were passports found at each crash site that were only lightly damaged (where the terrosists picture can be seen clearly), and yet they say the planes vaporized?
JackHorner (not verified) on Tue, 08/01/2006 - 1:08pm.
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CB | Homepage | 07.31.06 - 11:21 pm | #
Lovein this
Way to go guys! :)
MikeJr. (not verified) on Tue, 08/01/2006 - 1:29pm.
JackHorner | 08.01.06 - 12:13 am | #
Uh, yeah. No kidding. Screams buh-hoool sha-hyit to me. Kinda odd that they can so easily cough up these easily identifiable passports and visas, yet they can't conclusively show us one piece of plane wreckage from that supposed 757.
Dummies.
DP (not verified) on Tue, 08/01/2006 - 1:38pm.
It is strange, and no doubt this will be used against us. It's like, how can 90% of a plane vaporize with no body parts found...yet and still some paper and leather of a passport is hardly damaged?
Brian (not verified) on Tue, 08/01/2006 - 1:42pm.
wget
wget http://coop.vaed.uscourts.gov/moussaoui/P200315.zip
--22:16:07-- http://coop.vaed.uscourts.gov/moussaoui/P200315.zip
=> `P200315.zip'
Resolving coop.vaed.uscourts.gov... 207.41.14.56
Connecting to coop.vaed.uscourts.gov[207.41.14.56]:80... connected.
Length: 270,814,726 [application/x-zip-compressed]
4% [> ] 11,333,752 759.91B/s ETA 61:03:08
imgstacke (not verified) on Tue, 08/01/2006 - 1:58pm.
you should ALWAYS use wget
you should ALWAYS use
wget -N
and if the server allows resume, then
wget -Nc http:/BLAH.BLAH.zip
This will keep the ORIGINAL DATE of the file on the server.. which can be valuable info.
Remember when they downloaded the PDF-file from the british gov server and found the evidence that it went through the hands of xyz and was done on ddmmyyyy??
Wasn't it called THE DODGY DOSSIER? (maybe I am confusing it.... so much shit going down these years)
u2r2h (not verified) on Tue, 08/01/2006 - 2:25pm.
noted! thanks
for windows sufferers: yes,
for windows sufferers:
yes, use wget. A brilliant programme.
download it here:
http://www.google.com/search?q=wget+download+windows and put it into the C:WINDOWS folder.
Now to the download:
Copy the DOWNLOAD URL (the link, mate!) to the clipboard (with right-click COPY LINK) then
bring up a DOS box with
START > RUN > cmd {Enter}
(type c m d and press enter!)
then type
wget -Nc
then SPACE-BAR then click into the top-left corner of your DOS-BOX and click EDIT >> PASTE
(or ALT-SPACE > E > P )
after looking over some of
after looking over some of the evidence for 15 minutes I found couple odd things.
- Many of the pieces of evidence include documents and pictures of Waleed al-Shehri...Yet he was confimed alive and well by and NOT part of AQ by BBC, and that was years ago!
- Another piece of evidence is a box cutter which has a little red something on it...I'm not sure if its supposed to have been mirculously recovered from the wreckage, or if its supposed to be moussouis, but either way its quite stupid.
Wilson (not verified) on Tue, 08/01/2006 - 2:56pm.
ABC News Footage as
ABC News Footage as Evidence?
DHS (not verified) on Tue, 08/01/2006 - 3:01pm.
A while back, a red bandana
A while back, a red bandana actually worn by 1 of the "hijackers" on UA93 was shown as evidence for Moussaoui's trial.
The major discrepancy many had with said cloth bandana is that it was in brand new, immaculate condition! How is this possible if it was on the head of a "hijacker" who, along with the plane, was obliterated in the crash?
Oh, silly, the bandanna was
Oh, silly, the bandanna was washed, ironed, starched and pressed as part of the pre-trial preparations.
Either that, or it was also forced to wear a stun-belt and was therefore on its best behavior during the trial.
Mssr. Jouet (Magmak1) (not verified) on Tue, 08/01/2006 - 4:55pm.
I don't understand why you
I don't understand why you take this crap seriously. You should make CABARET with this material.
Hadn't these materials
Hadn't these materials already been posted on the internet more than a month ago, at http://www.rcfp.org/moussaoui ?
VAB (not verified) on Tue, 08/01/2006 - 6:16pm.
"Does anyone else find it
"Does anyone else find it strange that there were passports found at each crash site that were only lightly damaged (where the terrosists picture can be seen clearly), and yet they say the planes vaporized?"
Since you know that there was plenty of wreakage why would you believe that it was completely vaporized?
911Facts (not verified) on Tue, 08/01/2006 - 7:28pm.
911Facts: Since I'm new to
911Facts:
Since I'm new to all this, and you seem to be one of the few people talking with any sanity... Please help me find some reference material, photos, reports... anything.... showing where, who, how, when the NTSB conducted a crime seine investigation and reconstruction of aircraft debrie recovered from Flight 93.
I can understand not being able to do this in downtown NY, you know... too many people wanting to get back to there lives and stock trading. Just no time, pick everything up with power shovels, pack it off, and dump or sell for scrap. I think that was the best thing to do... because we were in such a state of mind, it was best not to look at reminders of the cave men who attacked us. I think the Goberment did the right thing. Well, I think the Goberment it right, even if they are wrong. That's just me.
But up there in the quite countryside near Shanksvilel.... It would seem that if a big airplane buried it self straight down.... into and under the ground (like Wile E. Coyote off a towering cliff).... then the NTSB assuredly conducted a thorough excavation of the site. They went in with hand tools, maybe the occasional back hoe, and dug down and down and down.... until every most every rivet, bolt and JET ENG CORE was pulled from the ground, carried to an appropriate location, hung up by cables and scaffolding, and the aircraft was re-constructed (probably one of the most complete reconstructions, because all the pieces were neatly packed into one hole.
Help me out, 911Facts.... I'm tired of hearing the tin-foil hat topped ninnies droning on and on about how our goberment didn't do a real investigation, and now these silly people think "traitors" could possibly live in the White House.
Kent (not verified) on Tue, 08/01/2006 - 9:09pm.
Well said Kent.
Well said Kent. Unfortunally, the 911Facts guide doesn't allow to respond intelligently to those questions. Too bad, It would have been instructive.
TNF (not verified) on Tue, 08/01/2006 - 9:20pm.
How did they manage to get a
How did they manage to get a conviction against Moussaouai with that rubbish? Flight 93 wreckage is a joke.
Really, what IS wrong with Americans?
Why cant they can't this for what it is? A three-ring-circus act.
I am going to scream. Per
I am going to scream.
Per Anonymous's post, look at the crap the prosecution presented:
PA00101 Kingdom of Saudi Arabia ID card recovered from the United Airlines Flight 93 crash site
PA00102 Saudi Arabian Youth Hostel Association ID for Ahmed A. A. Al-Nami recovered from the United Airlines Flight 93 crash site
PA00103.2 Passport sized photo recovered from the United Airlines Flight 93 crash site
PA00105.08 Page 37 and part of U.S. Visa page from Ziad Jarrah's Passport recovered at the United Airlines Flight 93 crash site
PA00108 Kingdom of Saudi Arabia passport for Saeed A A A Al Ghamdi recovered from the United Airlines Flight 93 crash site
PA00109 Business card of Assem Jarrah recovered from the United Airlines Flight 93 crash site
PA00110 Part of Ahmed A A Al Nami's Florida Driver's License recovered from the United Airlines Flight 93 crash site
PA00111 Red bandana recovered from the United Airlines Flight 93 crash site
PE00102 Partial ID card reading ALHAZMI from the Pentagon crash site
HOW CAN THERE BE ALL THIS "EVIDENCE" WHEN NO BODIES, BLOOD, BONES, AND LEGITIMATE AIRPLANE PARTS WERE FOUND AT THESE SITES?!?!?!?!?!?!
I am not about to keep my mouth shut about 9/11 at work or anywhere else.
truthsearching2006 (not verified) on Tue, 08/01/2006 - 9:43pm.
Really, what IS wrong with
How 'bout EVERYTHING!!!
Anonymous (not verified) on Tue, 08/01/2006 - 9:50pm.
I wonder if there's anything
I wonder if there's anything of value in the defense exhibits. I haven't had the time to go through any of it, but there could be something in there.
Anyone up for going through it? I will as soon as I have some time.
MediaPuppet (not verified) on Tue, 08/01/2006 - 10:31pm.
Tell that to the victims you evil sack of excrment...
Terrence (not verified) on Tue, 08/01/2006 - 10:39pm.
Terrence? Are you awake, or
Terrence?
Are you awake, or just braindead?
Terrence, shut-up you
Terrence, shut-up you disgusting liar.
HTF did this cloth bandana worn on the head of 1 of the "hijackers" survive, and be in pristine condition??? Where is the plane? Where is the hijacker's body? This is fraud!!! http://www.rcfp.org/moussaoui/jpg/size600/PA00111-1.jpg
(Moussaui came within an inch of the death penalty based on false evidence, you moron Terrence.)
Visitor on Tue, 08/01/2006 - 11:06pm.
Have you come to your
Have you come to your conclusion by going through all of the evidence, or is this just another witless mouth-fart from the conspiradroid army?
Terrass, how could a bandana
Terrass, how could a bandana worn by a UA93 hijacker remain in such condition? (Hint: It is fake evidence, that's how.)
http://www.rcfp.org/moussaoui/jpg/PA00111-1.jpg
Don't engage Terrence.
He's just another Stepford-citizen puppet.
Hang on a minute! Would that
Hang on a minute! Would that be the victims of Flight 93?
You stupid fucking moron - there weren't any passengers. It was faked.
http://flight93hoax.blogspot.com/
brian (not verified) on Tue, 08/01/2006 - 11:43pm.
"United Airlines Flight 93,
"United Airlines Flight 93, from Newark, New Jersey, to San Francisco, California, crashed in rural southwest Pennsylvania, with 45 people on board."
http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/trade.center/victims/ua93.victims.html
I count only 33 names, on this CNN manifest, not 45. No Arab sounding names. 12 "victims" names missing and nobody even questions it!!
UA Flight 93 is still assigned, hasn't been declared destroyed according to the FAA.
I'll just show you this screen capture, the FAA database url has changed recently and I haven't got it to hand.
http://img29.exs.cx/img29/463/ua93notdestroyed5zm.jpg
brian (not verified) on Wed, 08/02/2006 - 12:08am.
OT: Fire away
OT: Fire away folks!
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20060731/D8J762M80.html
MediaPuppet (not verified) on Wed, 08/02/2006 - 12:10am.
Heres the url
Heres the url :
http://www.cnn.com/exchange/
Scott Durr mentioned the
Scott Durr mentioned the stun-belt. But but what did Scott know that was important?
By the way, Scott has recently passed on due to an 'apparent heart attack'.
http://jfiddude.googlepages.com/scottdurrposts
Gonzo Ghost (not verified) on Wed, 08/02/2006 - 12:26am.
"How did they manage to get
"How did they manage to get a conviction against Moussaouai with that rubbish?"
Correct me if I am wrong, but they never got a conviction with that evidence. Moussauoi pled guilty before the trial. The "trial" was nothing more than a discussion, during the "punishment" phase, of whether there was sufficient evidence to put him to death. The jury said there was NOT sufficient evidence; he was given life in prison as his punishment. This is all aside from the fact that Moussaoui was arguably "not cognitively intact" before he showed up, to say nothing of his state of mind after significant detention, likely some torture, and some "programming" with the help of a stun-belt he wore during trial.
The Scholars for 9/11 Truth called it a "show" trial.
Mssr. Jouet (Magmak1) (not verified) on Wed, 08/02/2006 - 12:42am.
flight93
flight93 lawndart!
james ha (not verified) on Wed, 08/02/2006 - 1:37am.
you are joke , ha .
Colin Alexander (not verified) on Wed, 08/02/2006 - 3:45am.
I can't even access
I can't even access http://www.vaed.uscourts.gov any longer.
Too many interested people? Maybe that is a good sign, actually...
SJ (not verified) on Wed, 08/02/2006 - 4:00am.
Let me guess - it was all
Let me guess - it was all faked by the Jews?
Jan (not verified) on Wed, 08/02/2006 - 5:43am.
Oh and CNN's list of VICTIMS
Oh and CNN's list of VICTIMS is NOT a manifest.
"Since I'm new to all this,
"Since I'm new to all this, and you seem to be one of the few people talking with any sanity... Please help me find some reference material, photos, reports... anything.... showing where, who, how, when the NTSB conducted a crime seine investigation and reconstruction of aircraft debrie recovered from Flight 93."
To help you start, remember that the FBI was in charge of the investigations of all 4 crashes as is standard procedure with all criminal investigations. The NTSB assists the FBI but the FBI is in charge.
With that small bit of information, you will have no trouble finding all the information released to date concerning Flight 93, including photos of the wreakage.
It's nice to know that you recognize the rampant insanity displayed by 9/11 conspiracists here. It's a tough job educating them but very rewarding when even one realizes how thy've been conned.
Visitor on Wed, 08/02/2006 - 9:38am.
anyone download the pentagon
anyone download the pentagon videos yet? if so, please hose ot torrent them jointz so i can see em.
Visitor on Wed, 08/02/2006 - 2:14pm.
It's amusing to see the
It's amusing to see the disinfo trolls making a comeback. All part of Rummy's internet ops!
Anyone who looks at the physical, video, photographic, and documentary evidence - and has enough brain cells to understand basic laws of nature and physics - realizes that the government story of 9/11 is a lie. Those who take the time here to defend that story are either government agents or have an interest in supporting the myth.
Via public presentations and conversations, I've helped open many eyes - people who range from the unemployed to professors and engineers. With the aid of people like Steven Jones and David Ray Griffin, and movies like Sept. 11 Revisited, Loose Change 2nd Edition, and 9/11 Eyewitness, the truth will set us free.
For those who defend the Big Lie of 9/11, you will be viewed as traitors and accomplices to the crimes of that day. Your fate may not be a good one, if you think about how former Soviet or Czech informants/collaborators were treated after the collapse of the Soviet empire.
To the trolls, I hope you'll change your allegience to the founding ideals of this nation and stop working to protect the myth of 9/11.
Mike in Spokane.... (not verified) on Thu, 08/03/2006 - 3:08am.
"To help you start, remember
"To help you start, remember that the FBI was in charge of the investigations of all 4 crashes as is standard procedure with all criminal investigations. The NTSB assists the FBI but the FBI is in charge.
With that small bit of information, you will have no trouble finding all the information released to date concerning Flight 93, including photos of the wreakage."
You didn't address why there was no recontruction of the plane. And where are these photos you talk of?
Luke (not verified) on Thu, 08/03/2006 - 3:33pm.
ANYONE CARE TO GIMME A LINK
ANYONE CARE TO GIMME A LINK TO THE NEW VIDZ THAT ACTUALLY WORKZ?
WTF @ U
Visitor on Fri, 08/04/2006 - 3:06am.