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Discussion in 'Independent Scientology' started by hushpuppy, Aug 6, 2011.
subgenius Member
He has a thing about calling men "boy".
subgenius, Aug 12, 2011
grebe Member
^Yeah, it's like he's play-acting "Texan," as written in a B-movie script.
Same thing with the "goin' fishin'" videos.
I understand Rathbun's mother was a Scientologist and he grew up in the cult. He's only been an ordinary citizen like the rest of us since 2003-04. So being a real person is probably still a new experience for him.
grebe, Aug 12, 2011
Another example of Marty's narcissism & outrageous denial...
Ex-Scilon John Peeler posted on ESMB... "In reply to one of Marty's latest blogs entitled: Ground Zero for the Future of Scientology, I posted my concern about the new Indy movement and the fact that Marty and Rinder are essentially running it. Well, Marty only allowed a partial segment of my comment to go through and then essentially banned me from his blog, which I rarely comment on anyway. Regardless, I have some of the same concerns about Marty and Rinder running that show that I'm sure some others have. Anyway, per Marty I should come over here and "motivate." I will then.
I guess I've been declared an SP by the Indy camp apparently. I'll wear that too with a badge of honor."
John Peeler | August 12, 2011 at 3:38 pm
"David Miscavige, David Lubow, Scientology PIs, Scientology lawyers, and Office of Special Affairs staff are not capable of telling the truth. They are only capable of lying. They have lied so often and brazenly for so long, nobody in his or her right mind believes a single bit of filth that issues from their sinister mouths."
Marty, this is why there are people who hesitate to trust what's going on with you and Mike Rinder being the defacto heads of the Independent Scientology movement. I mean you guys ran that shit for so long…
After I blew Int and the blow drill was called to get me back. After it was discovered that I had blown to my mom's house with threats of Declaring me and ultimately my other Scientologist relatives. After getting fired from my first job since leaving the SO. After having other SO members and PI's post up in front of our house and follow me everywhere taking pictures and trying to intimidate the hell out of me. I started calling the police and even before they showed up, OSA operatives would blow the scene. (Those police scanners in Security are helpful.) But they kept coming back. Finally I called Kirsten Caetano in OSA and told her that if she or any of her PI's fucked with me at all, and I laid out out everything from following me, to taking pictures, calling me, etc… I said that I would sue the pants (underwear, socks and all) off the Church, not only for the current harassment at that time, but for false imprisonment charges and human trafficking. I reminded her as well that I too was no tape manufacturer at Gold and had been through every ethics file, pers file and practically every pc folder of everyone RTC and below at the base, and that I would start spilling beans. After that, all's been quiet.
That was back in 2000, and I know that you, Kirsten, Rinder and Sutter had to be directly running my "cycle" of either recovery or ensuring I didn't go legal. I know from personal experience of having been an MAA and on several blow drills myself that when someone blows the Int base, especially someone who was on sensitive lines, it's a major flap on Dave's lines and takes a number of personnel off post who don't even have anything to do with Security in the first place. So I have no doubt that you and Rinder were behind the bullshit I endured after blowing and shortly thereafter speaking out. In fact, that's why I started speaking out in the first place is that you guys wouldn't leave me alone.
So why would I ever trust you? Especially when I don't think you're being totally honest with everything you guys were involved in or know about. Compound that with the fact that you're repackaging Scientology in some form that will no longer contain the insanity, the beatings, the overboardings, the "noisy" investigations, the knowledge reports, the watching and keeping tabs on other members, the SP declares and so on… How is Indy Scientology going to be different when my whole life in Scientology from 1977 – 2000 contained all of that? It's IN the policies written by Hubbard. Look, I'm not stupid. I had to study Gary Conely's IG MAA program and the confidential LRH notes that went along with it until final approval by him. That was 1982 when Hubbard was supposed to be off all management lines. I've also read a massive amount of the "R" or "*" advices that were all kept in binders in the PDO library for years. There was a bunch of controlling and scary shit that LRH wanted run on members to keep them in line and to keep people from leaving. I mean the HCO Manual of Justice itself would have been a great tool for the Stasi, and LRH wrote it.
Is that aspect of Scientology going to be extant in the Indy version of Scientology? That's what I'm concerned about and what many others are concerned about.
Look, I appreciate everything you're doing in the media and drawing attention to the fact that David Miscavige is a raving lunatic of an asshole. I wholeheartedly agree and experienced that first hand. I witnessed DM beat up Marc Yager near the PDO art studio. I witnessed how almost every exec on the base became Miscavige clones. Even I started turning into someone I was not, and when I realized I couldn't do that, and couldn't take it anymore I got the hell out. I still wonder why it took some so much longer than I did to blow and start speaking out because it was already over-the-top insanity by 2000.
Most public Scientologists, Tech terminals, or others who worked less sensitive lines in my opinion are very unfamiliar with the more back channel, internal documents and orders that Hubbard wrote to keep people in line and in the fold. For me it was in my MAA and Sec Checker training, and getting deeper into that that woke me up to a world of Scientology that I didn't like and eventually didn't want anything to do with.
I have no problem with people who want to audit each other or believe in a philosophy, but when that philosophy includes methods to control the minds and bodies of others in it's system, that's where I draw the line and hope that others."
Here's Marty's reply:
"martyrathbun09 | August 12, 2011 at 4:00 pm
Edited to take out your quite rude and motivating dub-in and accusations designed clearly to drive attention from the topic at hand. My wife has faced 1,000 times what you ever faced, boy. And she ain't sitting around motivating ten years later. When and if you ever get the courage, to confront a tiny corner of your own responsbility I'll have you back. In the meantime, enjoy your sorrow over at ESMB."
The true Marty rears his ugly head.
Anonymous, Aug 12, 2011
TheHumansAreDead Member
This Marty has always been on display.
TheHumansAreDead, Aug 13, 2011
Marty needs to work harder at his Conditions. He ain't outta Liability yet, and we ALL get to sign that mofo, approved... or not.
This is what he is NEVER going to understand, because he has set himself up as Source, and Source don't confess, ever, nor do Conditions.
^Moonspeak.
Lightattheendofthetunnel Member
L. Ron Hubbard was incredible.
Hubbard had no credibility whatsoever in the field of Science and has been shown to be a total fraud who used religious cloaking to change his thoroughly debunked Modern "Science" of Mental Health into a scamming "Religion" whose primary goal was to exploit and control members to make money and make others make more money.
Conditions, liability, source, suppressive persons, planetary clearing, auditing, internal justice system, introspection rundowns, security checks, entheta....... etc..., etc....ad nauseum were all part and parcel of this insane science-fiction writer's controlling bullshit whose mindfuck has clearly had an extremely negative effect on Marty Rathbun and Mike Rinder who are both guilty of implementing Hubbard's abuses on others.
Rathbun and Rinder now try and hide behind the fraudulent "tech" to continue the scam and profit at the expense of former Hubbard victims who finally have a chance to overcome the mindfuck now that they are out.
They are selling a product that does not work, not 1 clear, ever, none, zero.....
It's a crime called fraud........
L. Ron Hubbard was an abusive conman and convicted fraud with a convoluted dizzying intellect who died as a fugitive, a coward in hiding, on psyche drugs.
Google: L. Ron Hubbard
It's all there, Scientology, just like its source L.Ron Hubbard has been a complete and utter fraud right from its beginning as a Modern "Science" of Mental Health.....
Lightattheendofthetunnel, Aug 13, 2011
subgenius said: ↑
A 53 year old man with no kids but a little cutesy dog and a penchant for pink shirts! Just sayin!
There's no homosexuality in RTC. Just sayin'.
"Seekrit Squirrel Network"
Give 'em enough rope.
They're accusing Marty of having a war room with GPS trackers, Bluetooth headsets, etc, .. just like theirs!
No wonder they're projecting such jelly butthurt!
DeathHamster, Aug 13, 2011
"holed up in a tiny dingy little trailer in the hot desert" is not correct.
View attachment 220px-Church_of_Spiritual_Technology_ranch_Creston
Lying image is lying. Back in Hubbard's day, there was just a ranch house and a Bluebird mobile home, and the ranch house was undergoing perpetual remodeling. So he died on the bus. Mind you, I wouldn't describe the bus interior as "tiny dingy". Snug yes, but reasonably equipped for the day. (a few months ago, someone posted a link to pictures of what was supposed to be Hubbard's Bluebird.)
DeathHamster said: ↑
Lying image is lying. Back in Hubbard's day, there was just a ranch house and a Bluebird mobile home, and the ranch house was undergoing perpetual remodeling. So he died on the bus. Mind you, I wouldn't describe the bus interior as "tiny dingy". Snug yes, but reasonably equipped for the day. (a few months ago, someone posted a link to pictures of what was supposed to be Hubbard's Bluebird.)
"holed up in a tiny dingy little trailer in the hot desert"
Most people would not consider where his ranch is "the hot desert".
1982 Blue Bird motorhome:
The Bus to Total Freedom!
Fare: $300,000.00
Diablo Member
You obviously have never been there or anywhere near there...it is hot and it is the desert.
The leader of a "world wide religion with millions of members" lived and died in a nice mansion...oh, I mean tiny dingy motorhome!! hahahah
FAT DRUGGED UP LOSER who turned his hard work of creating cult to MIDGET!!
Diablo, Aug 13, 2011
Diablo said: ↑
I live near there.
Triumph Member
Where I grew up and where I came from...Calling someone "BOY"..would get you whooping In a Dark alley...
I Imagine thats part of his sea org patter...used to degenerate someone....Old habbits die hard...
in other news keep In Mind that the NoI is adopting CoS anti-drug nonsense
Minister Farrakhan highlights Dopebusters during Millions in Harlem Speech
Posted on August 13, 2011 by Toure Muhammad
Here's a little background on the Dopebusters.
June 16, 1988: The Nation of Islam Dopebusters Program first established as a drug treatment program housed at the Washington D.C. Mayfair Mansion Apartments, adopted a special patrol of the community to keep it drug free.
The Dopebusters Program received national recognition and acclaim when Mrs. Bush presented the program with a special citation for its efforts in the war on drugs. The Dopebusters Program later evolved into N.O.I. Security Agency and opened chapters and franchises around the country. With not even a penny from federal or local officials, Minister Alim Muhammad, Captain William Muhammad and the Dopebusters of Muhammad's Mosque No.4, transformed two projects; Mayfair Mansions and Paradise Manor into drug and crime free zones
http://nationofislamhistory.wordpre...dopebusters-during-millions-in-harlem-speech/
the NOI Is gonna be handing out 'Truth about Drug' Pamphlets in the near future
the Dopebusters and the squirrel busters should have a party
Triumph, Aug 13, 2011
"Triumph said: ↑
I know the perfect place to hold it!
Chipshotz Member
I'd be curious what Rathbun told Mr. Leahy before these videos were made? Did MR offer to revoke any potential legal recourse against him in return for a videotaped confession? Observe where Rathbun is seated in relation to Leahy in the videos. Observe Leahy's body language and facial expressions at the start of these videos. Leahy is very apprehensive & uncomfortable in the videos.
I hope some good comes from all this and Leary finds some well-paying paid jobs from legitimate sources.
I noticed that too. Like he's walking on egg shells.
Chipshotz, Aug 13, 2011
after watching this Dopebuster video...
the Dopebusters and the squirrel busters should not get together...
for obvious reasons above
Warning graphic violence at the end of the video
Sponge Member
fixtit
Sponge, Aug 13, 2011
Like x 11
"Sponge said: ↑
I love midgets!
I have a spray that stops them from biting.
So your point would be...?
Chipshotz said: ↑
Okay, as one of the few unfortunates here - I confess, I have been to Creston. In California there are many interesting and exciting cities up and down the coast. But then there is the Central Coast. A hick-filled gap spanning over 100 miles that goes between Santa Barbara (in the Southern side) to San Jose (to the North). In this boring midsection you have the town of Paso Robles. Pick-up trucks and Walmart. Yes, you're in Crapberg without a tissue. Now, go east into the dirt road countryside beyond the miles of grapevines. Keep going. Just when you think that no one could survive this far into the backwoods of Crapberg, there lies Creston. A dusty town with one stop sign. One lady runs and answers the phone for the school there. It isn't in the desert, just in the boondocks of Nowhere, California.
I'm curious about why Scientology has their logo in the Creston ranch race track like they do at the storage vaults. Mey be it is to guide LRH back to the spot where he left the planet
Off hand I would say that the Paso Robles area was extremely cheap. Vineyards sprung up like crazy in the 1980's because land was cheap. Very cheap. The biggest employers are Cal Poly and Walmart. And this includes a huge area of the central coast.
This logo in the racetrack is what I was referring to:
Just as I suspected, it's only all nice and green for about 48 hours in the spring.
It's not quite desert, but it IS arid, mostly dried grass, oak trees and manzanita. The biggest difference is that there's more to go poof when some idiot drops a cigarette.
Newsflash, California has a Mediterranean climate.
adhocrat Member
Newsflash, only a few parts of it, mainly the Bay Area. That leaves 90% of the state out of that.
adhocrat, Aug 14, 2011
"adhocrat said: ↑
A Mediterranean climate is the climate typical of most of the lands in the Mediterranean Basin as part of subtropical climate. Worldwide, this is where the largest area of this climate type is found. Beyond the Mediterranean area, this climatic type prevails in much of California, in parts ofWestern and South Australia, in southwestern South Africa, in isolated sections of Central Asia, and in parts of central Chile. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediterranean_climate
Sonichu Moderator
ITT: Anons arguing about the typical weather conditions when LRH dropped his meat body.
Sonichu, Aug 14, 2011
Sonichu said: ↑
They're just a bunch of fucking nerds!
Trotter Moderator
I know. It's the most productive thread we've had in weeks!
Trotter, Aug 14, 2011
Trotter said: ↑
That's debatable. I think Demented LRH started a thread that many Anons have found inspiring.
elwood Member
I grew up in Texas and I haven't heard a grown man call another "boy" in 50 years. Marty sounds like a redneck southern cop from a bad movie. He comes on tough, but in my opinion he's just like all the scilons - hard-ass when they have backup; not so much one-on-one. I also find a fifty-something white man trying to sound and look like a twenty-something black man somewhat ludicrous.
elwood, Aug 16, 2011
elwood said: ↑
Uhh.. what part of Texas did you grow up in? Southern rednecks have long been known to address black men as "boy".
A federal appeals court last year ruled, however, calling an African American man in the Deep South a "boy" is still acceptable and not cause for racial discrimination.
http://news.change.org/stories/us-c...ack-man-as-a-boy-is-not-racial-discrimination
Smurf, Aug 16, 2011
We have a half black president...isn't all this talk suppose to go away?
A half-black president who's seen by many as a failure... it only fuels the fire, boy.