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DarkViperAU:

Technically I didn't do that. I'm more used to hypothetical to explain why. I think what Asmon does and, and a lot of content creators, don't get me wrong, it's exploitative in some cases.

TurkeyTom:

I highly recommend checking out ''‘Asmongold Scam, How He Steals Her Future''’, which I'll link in the description below. He did a pretty great job,

Xanderhall:

Holy shit,

DarkViperAU:

As he got big as a content creator, got lazy, stopped making his own content. He doesn't edit any videos anymore like he used to, and now he's sending other people's labor to expand his influence and wealth.

Xanderhall:

Asmongold streams like 12 hours a day you fucking idiot.

DarkViperAU:

So, so here's the problem with people speaking about things that they know nothing about. So let's, uh, here's my, you know, days in which I streamed. Every single one of these dots is a day that I've streamed over the last, you know, what, what is this? Like four years or whatever, right? And so here's Asmongold's. Here is mine. Here is Asmondgold’s. Here is mine. Here is Asmondgold’s, right? You can do the math as well. Let me at the math here. So, my duration of my average stream is 6.7 hours. Asmongold’s is 6.1 hours. Uh, active days I stream per week, 6.6 outta 7 over the last 4 years, Asmon 4.7, that's two additional days for me. My dude. Total game has played a 150, Asmon 30. His stream isn't even as diverse as mine is, and I'm a bloody GTA V speedrunner. Total days active, almost all of them for me. Asmon, you know, two thirds. And of course, I do this while editing my own videos, releasing one every single day. There isn't a video that doesn't go up on my channel that I don't edit to some capacity. Half of them I do all by myself.

And this guy's like “You ignorant fuck, do you not know how hard Asmongold works?”. “Making no video videos himself on YouTube and streaming like two thirds what you do.” I mean, I'm just, I'm just ignorant dude. Just ignorant.

Xanderhall:

He doesn't even upload the content. I already told this at the, at the beginning of the video, Asmongold literally was having his stream clips uploaded by other people who are making tens of thousands of dollars a month off of his content.

DarkViperAU:

So let's look at some of this content that these other people were uploading prior to Asmongold making his own channel that is run by two people that he does nothing with, except of course that he instructs them as to what to upload and whatnot. Like he has executive control over what goes over that channel. He can say, don't upload this or upload this, of course, but he doesn't actually make the videos himself. But here we go. So this is the currently the most watched speedrun of Dark Souls ever. Now, Dark Souls, people have been running the game for, you know, years and years, just thousands upon thousands of hours has gone into making Dark Souls speedruns what they are. They are very interesting what they are. And here's a 50 minute video with 5 million views. Let us watch Asmon's content.

Elajjaz:

Ah, black lamage. What the fuck? Oh, I don't know. Mick, you gotta count yourself. I can't do right now.

DarkViperAU:

Riveting! Asmongold, who knows nothing about Dark Souls, watching a very talented streamer and speedrunner, Elajjaz. This guy's like what this is. This is absurd that Asmongold wasn't able to profit off his content and this random fuck was able to upload it. This is theft of the highest order. This fuck stealing from Asmongold. The benevolence of Asmongold to allow people for so long to steal his content. It's laziness. It's laziness ladies and gentlemen. Like he just didn't ever put the effort in to care or to upload this stuff himself. But the benevolence! Oh, he just showers tens of thousands of dollars on people giving them for so long this amazing content.

Elajjaz:

Ah, you skip all Lord Souls.

Asmongold:

Wait, what?

DarkViperAU:

What?

Xanderhall:

And then he employed those people under his YouTube channel and gives them like 80% of the revenue the channel makes from the clips that are uploaded to the channel.

DarkViperAU:

So I think it's 60/40 actually. But, so what this guy is saying is, how could Asmongold be exploiting people or stealing content when he only gets 20% of the thefted revenue? I mean, come on now, that can't possibly be theft. He's giving the majority of the revenue to the people who are doing all of the work. Benevolence! Beyond reason! Oh. If we could only all be as so charitable as Asmongold. I mean, I agree with this argument completely. I mean, if you're only taking 20% of the stolen revenue, you can't possibly be stealing. Case closed.

Xanderhall:

Gives him like 80% of the revenue, 'cause he doesn't need it.

DarkViperAU:

So this is also a great argument. You guys realize that people only do what they need. They only take what they need. Now, I'm gonna, I'm gonna blow Xander's mind. Being a very successful Twitch and YouTuber, I know roughly how much money Asmongold must be making. He doesn't need 20% of the revenue from his YouTube at all. But apparently he doesn't need that 80% and he is giving that away. Implicit in that is he does need that 20% Asmongold is only taking what he needs as a multi, multi, multi, multi, multi-millionaire. One of the biggest, occasionally the biggest content creator on twitch.tv. Oh, the benevolence of Asmongold towards other people… Oh Xander! Thank you for opening my eyes and realizing how benevolent Asmongold is, only taking what he needs. 20% of a YouTube channel that he doesn't do anything on.

So we, um, that video might be getting boring. We need to watch more of the content that Xander believes was stolen from Asmongold.

- video of Asmongold watching a Dark Souls speedrun from Elajjaz -

Xanderhall:

He doesn't need it. He makes a fuck ton of money just from streaming because he's like one of the biggest streamers on Twitch. He literally said when he handed these people that were stealing his content, his own channel to all upload under it is like, I guess like, uh, to be employed by him, uh, more or less that he literally doesn't get, like he doesn't need the money and he doesn't care.

DarkViperAU:

Then why do it at all? So if you, if you listen to, I believe I put it in the videos, Asmongold’s, impetus for bringing these two people together. I believe they came to him and asked him if they could make a formal, official channel. Was that, what would happen on YouTube is YouTube doesn't like duplicated content. So multiple content creators were uploading the same content, right? And they'd get taken down, they'd be infighting and stuff, and he wanted to get rid of all that. You know why Asmongold benefits from people uploading his content to YouTube? Asmongold benefits not monetarily, but in terms of his brand. His expanded influence. While Asmon wasn't willing to take the effort to upload all this content himself, I'm not sure that Asmon would be as blatant to upload something like this, right? But the a big reason why he wouldn't do this is 'cause it would take effort. But he didn't hate the idea of other people doing it. 'cause he recognized as any streamer would that, oh my god, having thousands of videos about you on YouTube is a good thing for bringing you new followers and subscribers and whatnot. Zero effort did Asmongold put in for years, yet he still gains endless followers, endless subscribers. He built his brand in a large part because of all this YouTube content that would get uploaded. Sure. He wasn't experiencing the revenue from these content creators. But due to his hands-off approach, so much Asmongold content was just thrown at YouTube for years. Couldn't go anywhere without tripping over an Asmongold and go, “Who's this Asmongold fellow? Let me go check out his Twitch Stream.”. Zero effort. So much reward.

Xander, on the other hand, doesn't see this. “Oh, Asmongold, the benevolence… to give these people tens of thousands of dollars. Oh god! He's just so good as a person.”. If Asmongold had been negatively impacted by these people uploading his content to YouTube, you can guarantee he would've done something about it. If Asmongold had believed that he would benefit more from uploading it himself, he would've done it. If Asmongold believed he would benefit from having a centralized place for his content, he would've done it. And we know that because he did it. When YouTube started taking down duplicate videos, two creators came to him and said, Hey, look, we, we run like the two most popular. It was Cat, Danny and the other person. We run the two most popular, uh, channels uploading your content. How about we all go in this together? We, we split the revenue fairly evenly. You promote the channel. Now say it's your official channel. We'll get more views and we'll all benefit. And Asmon is like, “So this will take no effort on my part? Oh, okay. Fair enough. Then I'll do it.”. The benevolence. Watch a bit more.

Elajjaz:

Wait, you just, yeah, that's a glitch. So the death camera happens, and with that certain terrain doesn't spawn.

Xanderhall:

Holy fuck. You have no idea what you're talking about. Like, I can excuse what the QC and like Pokimane and Destiny and Hassan stuff because it's like, okay, sometimes they do, um, like sit there and they eat food while, while they're watching a video. But Asmongold is notorious for going on massive rants. While reacting to videos.

DarkViperAU:

So Xander is like, look man, he reacts very well. I like his reactions, and therefore, there can be nothing wrong with what he's doing. Now I'm, I'm gonna throw something at you guys. Stopping a video every once in a while and talking is really fucking easy. Like, holy shit is easy. You're watching it in real fucking time. Try it yourself. Sit at home, watch a 10 minute video, pause every couple of minutes and go, you know, here's my opinion on what just happened. Anyone can do it. Fucks in the movie theaters “Don't go in their she behind the door!” or whatever. People can do that shit. It's not hard content to make and that's why people make it. That's why there's so many content creators on YouTube with millions of followers who are just reacting to TikTok. They go “Oh, that's very funny.”. Like you may like his reactions, but that's just a subjective opinion. It's not like Asmongold has objectively the best reactions in the game, and therefore his reaction content is somehow good or somehow legal. If you read the four guidelines of what fair use is meant to defend Asmongold's content, his react content does not meet it in any capacity.

Do you wanna know where Asmongold's rants used to belong? Here on this channel, which he hasn't uploaded to in two years 'cause it takes more effort then reaction. In this video he has to find his own footage, his own background, might have to edit things together, edit out mistakes and whatnot. You know, this requires at least a little bit of effort. Does not take anything from anyone else, he's just playing the game and giving his ranty opinions, his thoughts as he does today, but with more effort. And this is what I said about Asmongold getting famous, getting popular, getting a lot of money on Twitch and then stopping doing the work that he used to do when it came to his talking about WoW, making content about WoW with these edited videos. Rather than going to the effort of getting stuff that is somehow related to what he's talking about, he just opens someone else's video and reacts to what they're saying. Rather than thinking of certain things and ordering them in the way that he wants so that he can make his point the way he wants to, he simply follows the structure of another person's video. So he skips the part where he has to put that effort in to make these videos like he used to and he's just using someone else's video to achieve basically the same effects. He's putting in far less effort than he used to… for the same result. Actually I would argue an even better result. Of course because the content that he picked for his backdrop wasn't necessarily the best while the videos he's reacting to might've spent, you know, they might have spent days getting together those exact clips in that exact order to make the exact backdrop that they're using. While Asmongold clearly didn't used to go through that kind of effort anyway.

Newsflash: Stopping a video every once in a while and giving your opinion… does not make your video legal, does not make it not exploitative, does not make it not theft. If you wanna argue against these points, feel free. But you need actual arguments. Not this bullshit touchy feely shit because you like Asmongold's content.

DarkViperAU:

When is enough going to be enough Asmon?

TurkeyTom:

Hopefully some of the streamers that we talked about will take our advice and stop stealing content, but as of now, they don't seem to be taking it very well. After all, why change what you were doing when you can get defensive and complain about your super hard life, where you make hundreds of thousand of dollars a year off of using a computer all day? Yeah feel really bad for you, man… you’re having it so, so rough.

Xanderhall:

That's literally what YouTubers do as well. You're making, well, maybe not hundreds of thousands of dollars a year, depending on your size. Most streamers don't make hundreds of thousands of dollars a year. Only like. I mean, the ones that we've shown off in this one, like Destiny, Hassan, xQc, Pokimane, and Asmongold definitely do 'cause they're fucking huge. But, um, most streamers aren't making that much. Most YouTubers aren't making that much. Uh, let's be honest here though, you're all making money, off of sitting at your computer most of the time. Unless you do content where you're going out and doing vlogs and you edit those vlog even then like…

DarkViperAU:

I hope everyone in my audience is smart enough to see through this bullshit. He is simply making a false equivalency. He's implying that everything done at a PC is somehow equal, simply because it's done at a pc. That's obviously patently absurd. I am both a YouTuber and a Twitch streamer, and I do make hundreds of thousands of dollars a year. I'm very blessed to be in the situation that I'm in. I got lucky, but I'll tell you this right now. Streaming is so much easier than making YouTube videos. Actual YouTube videos. Edited original content, original jokes, key framing shit. Sitting on my ass reacting to shit is so easy. If all I had to do was stream, my life would be like at least 80% easier. As much as I stream… I still look at streaming as so much easier than YouTube. Sitting on my ass for 12 hours at my computer just editing on stream or playing a video game, especially a chill one, I can do that in a heartbeat. Editing Pacifist%... I get sweat… thinking about how strenuous that is gonna be. There's like three edits that I have to do and I pull off making that video for like a month just 'cause I don't want to do them 'cause I know how difficult they will be. I have spent nine months trying to get through ''GTA V'' without taking any damage. Nine months! And I still think that's easier than making a single episode of Pacifist%. Every person sitting at their computer for long durations of time is not putting in the same effort for what they're creating. This person is an idiot! By sitting at your computer all day it doesn't mean that whatever you're producing is equally difficult to produce. Drawing an equivalence between people who make actual original content on YouTube, not that we act shit that Xander loves… like eating fucking fast food. The people who put hour long essays together, with creative animations or original ideas, these things are just orders of magnitude. More difficult and more interesting than any stream content has ever been.

Xanderhall:

But most YouTubers… like especially TurkeyTom… you make money… you do your job… while sitting at your computer. That's what you do.

DarkViperAU:

This is amazing false equivalency. As if TurkeyTom is somehow criticizing anyone who makes money sitting at a pc, as opposed to people who do particular things at their pc. “I mean everyone who sits at the computer is exactly the same bro! Enlightened fuckwith!”.

TurkeyTom:

Life is a little easier if you hire people to edit your reactions, to cut out your dead air and only show the parts that you actually react to. But of course, that would bring your reaction VOD on YouTube from 30 minutes to 3 minutes, and you would make one 10th of the ad revenue. And we, we can't have that now, can we? I respect some of these streamers. It's unfortunate to see them having these terrible takes (...).

Xanderhall:

Okay. I think we've probably seen enough. Uh, so don't get me wrong here. Um, TurkeyTom is a reactionary and a lot of this is definitely, definitely politically motivated. The, the people he's going after and the reasons why he's doing it, absolutely politically motivated. But even outside of the political arguments he was making, his overall points were pretty dumb on their own. They're pretty dumb on their own. Anyway, time for the ‘sex work’ segment!

DarkViperAU:

At least with me, he can't just hand wave me away and say, this guy's just politically motivated 'cause certainly he and I are, from what I understand, fairly close politically. But I mean Xander… he can't just engage with people's arguments, honestly, can he? He just goes “Oh, it's just political man. Just political. Wipe it away!”. Xander… I'm gonna say this to you: I think because TurkeyTom is in political opposition to you, it has caused you not to grapple with his arguments fairly. Or mine for that matter. You are so politically entrenched that you can't assess things said by other people who are politically opposed to you on their merits alone. Which is why you've sat here and said, just in this section, amazingly stupid shit. I can't imagine the rest of the streamers any better, but maybe I'm misjudging you. Maybe you just had an aneurysm or something for this specific moment where you're talking about me. And the rest of your stream you are fucking just genius in your levels of countering what TurkeyTom says in his video.

If you want a quick summation of my video, my overall point was this: if a person makes a video that takes them a thousand hours to make, and you react to that video and upload your reaction plus the original video to your YouTube channel… you've effectively just stolen a thousand hours of labor. Your reaction video took 10 minutes to make, but the video that you've produced has a 1,000 hours worth of labor in us. That kind of return on time investment doesn't exist without exploitation. If you had to try and make that video yourself from scratch, you would have to spend for 1,000+ hours. But you skip that process by just using someone else's labor without paying them. You effectively make the argument “I'm paying in exposure”. But in that exchange, you totally wanna be the guy who's already powerful and big paying an exposure. You wanna be the guy going “I'm gonna take this video that took a thousand hours to make, this video that took a thousand hours to make, this video took a thousand hours to make.”. You don't wanna be one of those guys spending the thousand hours, you wanna be the guy spending 10 minutes to take those thousand hour videos and put them up on your YouTube channel.