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doc_23_Joey
njlic0
tapering
How Do You Know The Dose You’re Really Taking Under 2 mg When Cutting Film?. I’m at .66 (I think),but really not sure since I cut them myself from 2 mg strip. Also, I’m doubting the medicine is spread on the strip evenly anyway. Am I missing something? I’m trying to quit slowly, but I don’t think I’ll ever know what dose I’m really taking, dose to dose. Cutting these little strips is tough.
Doesn’t it suck they don’t just make smaller doses?
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doc_58_Omar
w2yduw
taking-moud
How long after eating can you dose?. I’m on zubsolv. I never know how long to wait to dose after eating. Anyone have a good suggestion?
I don’t think it Matters .. brush your teeth or rinse with a alcohol mouthwash.. it will help you get the majority of the dose
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doc_27_Madhu
pztps5
relapse
What to do if going out of country?. I recently got put on suboxone and dropped fentanyl. The only problem is I plan on leaving the country for a couple weeks in a months. What do I do about my suboxone I don’t want to lose my prescription or go into withdrawals and relapse on fentanyl while I’m over there.
Yes I would research laws in the country you visit just in case. Don’t want any misunderstanding! Truth be told, especially with pandemic related issues, it’s sort of a tough time to be traveling. If it were me I’d avoid travel but I’m not naive and know people gotta go places sometimes. Talk to your doctor first, and then research the legality of this with your destination to make sure they’d honor your prescription!
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doc_38_Omar
seg8wz
relapse
I stopped using and my subs aren’t working. Hello I recently am ending a relapse and waiting until I was pretty sick to take subs, I didn’t go into PWD but subs aren’t working? I still fell pretty sick, not overwhelming but uncomfortable. Am I supposed to take more? I took 2 mg waited tooo 4mg and took another 4mg
Keep taking them in low doses, they’ll start to work. You have to give it time to bind to your receptors properly and stabilize on it. Gone are the days of getting instant relief from subs bc the dope out there is just fent at this point and is so strong. My last relapse lasted a couple months and it took me about 10 days to stabilize. Keep pushing through though you can do it! If you can ask your doctor for some clonidine and maybe something for sleep it can help tremendously. Clonidine alone is a lifesaver for me while transitioning from heroin/fent to bupe. Good luck friend!!
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doc_9_Joey
wvd4gp
tapering
8 weeks off subs and withdrawal symptoms are back. My girlfriend has 6.5 years off heroine and now 8 weeks off suboxone. The first few weeks were rough and she experienced a ton of nausea, back pain, chills, sweats, restless legs, etc. but she gradually got better and weeks 6-7 she felt good. A few days ago she started feeling sick again. It’s taking an emotional toll on her to feel like she’s going back through withdrawal after so many weeks. Has this happened to anyone else? is there any reason she’d experience these symptoms again? She has not taken anything and says it feels distinctly like withdrawal, not illness.
Wellbutrin was a miracle when I went through PAWS. I only took it for a few weeks… it helped me right away.
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doc_14_Madhu
vt2m3y
tapering
Question. If you’re just starting subs and start at 4mg and just want to taper off an opiate. Can you do down 1mg every week and Jump off after a month? I just want to be down with all opiates.
I'm sure someone else will comment but you wanna try to get off before a month to make sure you have less withdrawal basically. However I don't recommend that short of term MAT program unless you are 100% sure you are not gonna relapse. If you are 99% sure you won't then I'd recommend staying on subs for a year or so tops. If you stay on it longer there is ways to taper too I am doing it right now! Otherwise I think it would be more of a week/2 week thing tops something called a "rapid taper". Anyway best of luck to you and I hope you do what is right for you!
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doc_98_Omar
M1121
taking-moud
Starting suboxone tomorrow any tips? I plan to wait 12 hours after my last dose and take 4mg strip of suboxone. Will this help the withdrawls? Any tips.?
1. avoid precipitated withdrawal 2. give it a chance, it might need 2 or 3 days until you feel 100% well
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doc_71_Omar
vduioi
relapse
Do we have a chance?. Been doing fentanyl for a year and a half. Tried quitting multiple times. My wife and I have been using about a half gram each a day for the past 3 months. We have 14 8mg subs and a 6 day weekend coming up. Do we stand a chance of quitting? I'm just looking for some advice I guess. Feeling hopeless but we want to stop more than anything. Jobs and bills have gotten in the way of us detoxing for to long. We have to quit. This is our last chance before our lives get really really bad.
I just got my 5th shot today and have been trying to find info on this all day. This time the shot hurt Extremely bad. I usually think its mild. And usually there is a lump of the medicine at the injection site (lower stomach). But no lump at all today except thin tendrils going about 3 inches above and below coupled with pain. The lower ones definitely go to my groin. Idk if he went too deep or what. Last time this doc did it too close to the skin and I had really sticky substance leak out, I'm imagining it was some medicine and it got super bruised. It got better but this time I'm kinda freaked out
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doc_61_Madhu
rlln1h
taking-moud
Dosing. How much do you think my doctor will put.memon for a 120mg a day oxy use I go see him on the 28th of September to get started just genuinely curious
Yeah they gave me 12mg to start have to take 2 mg tabs every hour then once you feel normal I had to call them and let them know at what dose I felt better I had to take all of them to feel Normal so I think I'll be put on 12mg
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doc_61_Tanzia
C_M644
taking-moud
for those who have been living while on suboxone for a long period of time are you ever allowed to consume alcohol? can you smoke weed on them safely? does kratom work while on suboxone? what if you ever want to used another drug ( that’s not an opioid ) while your tapering subs? sorry for all the questions. day 2 on subs for me :)
I smoke everynight to sleep and I'll have a couple hard lemonades every once in a while. It just depends on knowing your limits or knowing that you dont have a particular addiction to those substances. Subs and alcohol "can" cause respiratory depression but its less than combining with other opioids such as methadone.
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doc_90_Tanzia
P_T722
tapering
Can someone help me with a taper schedule? Currently on somewhere between 1-1.5 mg per day. I’m really just done with this shit. I’m definitely not ready to jump off and go cold turkey because when I take 1 mg opposed to 1.5, I kinda feel awful once it reaches nighttime. And I’m not doing kratom again because that was a horrible experience for me lol
I would first try a simple search on tapering in this sub Reddit. You will find quicker results instead of some one else doing the work for you. Not trying to sound like a dick or rude but you can literally find hundreds of posts that will help you find a great taper schedule.
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doc_73_Tanzia
P_T725
tapering
Can someone help me with a taper schedule? Currently on somewhere between 1-1.5 mg per day. I’m really just done with this shit. I’m definitely not ready to jump off and go cold turkey because when I take 1 mg opposed to 1.5, I kinda feel awful once it reaches nighttime. And I’m not doing kratom again because that was a horrible experience for me lol
Read every chapter very carefully and thoroughly - Hopefully this will help. Best of luck to you!
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doc_60_Joey
T321
tapering
Time to pay the piper I've got 1 day left of suboxone, and I'm jumping from 2mg after being on 8-12mg for 5 years. I tapered down to 2mg for 5 days and I am jumping from there. Anyone who has jumped from around this dose please let me know your experience!
I’m in the same boat. I’m so scared. I’ve had a bad experience weaning off quickly when I found out I was pregnant 10 years ago. I’m scared to be back in that place where the depression consumes me.
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doc_29_Tanzia
qe7ow9
taking-moud
Alternative ways to dose Suboxone?. Hi everyone. So I have an absolutely horrible gag reflux, and the taste of sub films dissolving makes me vomit every time. Can I dissolve them in water and drink the water? Like a really small amount of water? Or is there a way to snort? Please don’t say this is addict behavior. I know. I just can’t take them under the tongue/cheek/lip. All help is appreciated
You don’t have to swallow the sub just put it under your tongue and let it build up a bit and spit it into a pop can or bottle as you go I do this everyday and have never swallowed a single bit of a sub purposely unless by accident. Shit is disgusting lol.
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doc_85_Omar
P_T598
tapering
Will I ever sleep through the night again? I’m on day 6 or 7 off subs I can’t remember. Anyways I can’t sleep for the life of me. I’ll be so tired I can barely keep my eyes open and then sleep for like 2 hours and wake up restless and unable to fall back asleep. Not to mention I’m always yawning. When does this go away? I’m half tempted to take a whole strip just so I can sleep!
Yes this goes away. Same thing happened to me my first week on subs I didn’t sleep a drop
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doc_24_Tanzia
qhhs9e
taking-moud
Can people overdose on Suboxone?. On my takeaways it says "May cause death or serious harm if taken by someone else". Those of us who take it everyday are unlikely to overdose on it but what about people with no tolerance? I had a friend who gave 2mg to a mate (who had no tolerance) and he was spewing all day. So I can see how someone could overdose on it. But I've never heard about that happening.
It's essentially impossible to overdose and die on buprenorphine.
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doc_78_Omar
M143
taking-moud
Drug test came back with no bupenorphine how is that possible I’m on 4mg a day The dr said he wasn’t worried about it that sometimes it happened but I’m really confused as to how this is possible he said maybe it’s because I’m on such a tiny dose but idk 4mg is still a decently high dose I think and I take it as prescribed so how would the metabolite not be there.
Prolly cuz your doc is using shitty point of care tests. If they send it a lab for confirmation, it would most likely come back with normal levels of bup and norbuprenorphine. I'd suggest you get retested and have it on file. No levels is a red flag for diversion. If your not selling your meds, you don't want to be thrown into that category by your provider. Any good provider would suspect diversion with zero levels.
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doc_62_Joey
C_M_P161
relapse
Do any of yall smoke more cigarettes/vape more? I've noticed since being on Suboxone I smoke/dip/vape more than I used too, have any of yall experienced this?Also my doctor switched me to Subutex today I have to wait on insurance authorization first, which one works best for yall Subutex or Suboxone? Why?
Yes. Just like when I was on percs and oxy it makes me want to smoke more. It makes quitting really tough.
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doc_44_Omar
ugydc2
tapering
Suboxone Wd Help. I started Suboxone 6 months ago at 16mg to help me stay off a bad fentanyl habit. I’ve tapered to around 4mg to 2 mg a day depending on how I feel, but I can’t kick the subs after countless attempts. The farthest I get is like 20 days then I cave and get back on it. I take the orange pills and they taste so bad I put myself into wd for absolutely no reason. Am I dropping from too high of a dose? - also use kratom and lyrica for the wd and still struggle Bc my panic disorder comes back in full force.
Yeah, that’s too high. However, if you’re able to get to 20 days, I don’t know…. I’m currently stuck at 1.5mg strips. I’m trying to go lower but I get terrible anxiety attacks that last all day. You could try and drop to 1mg for a month or so then to .5mg for a month then jump
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doc_40_Tanzia
vvghav
taking-moud
Trying!. 3 days off of subs, I’m worried the worst is yet to come!!! I feel fine as of now- I was taking the smallest dose I could manage to break off of the octagon orange pills. I want this so freaking bad
How are you? I’m in the thick of it right now. Came off at 1.5mg and I’m 6 days in.
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doc_13_Tanzia
q86sg2
tapering
Is a dose reduction from 8mg to 6mg daily reasonable?. I’ve only been on bupe for 6 weeks, but have developed some urinary issues and would like to reduce my dose but also avoid withdrawals. Is it reasonable to drop my dose from 8mg to 6mg and expect to not experiment withdrawals?
taper as quickly as you can and jump off asap. you're at fork in the road right now. stay on subs for a long time or you can get off. as someone who was on suboxone for 4 years i would recommend to get off if you can. i'd only tell someone to stay on it if they absolutely know they will relapse on heroin or fent. suboxone has so many negative side effects that ppl dont talk about enough.
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doc_23_Tanzia
wxlxfk
tapering
Detox -In Patient. Hello, sorry for all the questions but I have another one. My insurance covers rehab/detox 100 percent. I’m already starting my taper, but when I jump I’m wondering if going to an in patient detox is worth it. I know a lot of people try it at home -but has anyone had any positive inpatient detox experiences for Suboxone ? (I’m in the New York area but I will travel. This is for the future next year but I’m trying to get e all my plans together- I already have off from work so my dates are set).
I went to inpatient to get off of both dirty 30s and suboxone. 7 days. If you need to be on suboxone that's fine but my view was that if I was going to be in patient, being looked after by nurses, and on other medications, I might as well just come off everything... and I'm glad I did. Only downside I can say to in patient was I feel like they went a little heavy on the benzos and I had some rebound after I was discharged. My sleep was in shambles for at least 3 or 4 weeks total, and it was a nightmare... but besides that I'm back to life now and things are pretty much OK.
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doc_38_Madhu
r0h9z1
tapering
16mg a day..tapering myself down to 8 a day.. How long should i stay at a dropped dose until i am there?
IMO and personal experience , you can make large dose reductions without any noticeable effects until you get to 2mg. At 2 screech on the breaks. Then almost micro cuts and stay until you are completely stable before micro cutting again. Time at each cut depends on how you feel not how much time has passed
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doc_86_Joey
C_P140
relapse
am I going crazy? My husband and I are in our 3rd week of transiting to suboxone from a almost 20 year heroin(lately fent) iv habit. We both are experiencing an extreme emotional roller coaster. Some sort of argument daily. This is so not normal for us. Is it the suboxone, detox, or was I always crazy and just not noticed before??
Thanks for the input. Yes started at 16mg, 2 8s. But we have been taking 4mg 4xs in 24 hours.
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doc_10_Madhu
exzvc2
tapering
Methadone sucks. I got to 195 pounds I'm only 5'6. Its junk dont do it. After 19 days off subs I look really skinny. I'm under 130 finally. Just do it!! Once you get off you will lose weight you actually shit everyday I would go 4 days before. People ask me my taper schedule I don't really remember just slow and low
Dude, fuck these people being so negative in this thread. This is a person who is trying to stay sober, posting every day to help support anyone else going through the same thing, posting his thoughts and feelings, looking for support from his peers. Shame on all of you for criticizing his fucking English while he seeks community.
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doc_8_Joey
rw7yqe
taking-moud
How long before wds. Hi guys I had a 6 month fent press habit where I was using everyday. I got with bicycle health to help me get off and so we are doing the Bernese method where I take .25mg x2 a day .5mgx2 a day 1mg x2day 2mgx2 day 3mg x2day 4mgx2day and then finally a 12mg x 1 day and on the last day discontinue opiates. If I stop taking suboxone on day 7 will I still have withdraws from the fent press pills? If I need to take suboxone longer to keep me out of withdraws from the fent press pills will I be hooked on suboxone?
My advice? Don’t worry about getting hooked on subs. Right now, you are taking fentanyl, which is a drug that can kill you. Relapse rates are very high when people, especially taking a drug like fentanyl, attempt a rapid taper. I’m not saying it can’t be done, but but your risk of relapse is going to be much higher. I would recommend stabilizing on a dose for a few weeks at least, and then talk to your doctor about reducing. There’s no way to get out of it without any withdrawal unfortunately.
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doc_55_Omar
v0qnzu
taking-moud
Answer me. I’m currently on a 12 blues n 2 bars a day w/o ice when I ice in morning 16 blues n 31/2 bars sometimes 4 additional blues n the additional 1/2 bar How much Suboxone would I need to start off on and how to go down m Same with methadone how much to start off on ?
Should be able to start at no more than 24mg, but take as little as possible, wait as long as possible between doses. The first month is hard, but afterward it gets easier to manage on 8mg or less and function normally. Benzos are a different animal and you will be tested on subs, so try to get a script. My teledoc allows 30mg Valium in addition to the subs. It’s imperative you don’t cold turkey from benzos. Alcohol will hold you over, but better under medical supervision. Obviously meth is off the table and counterproductive here.
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doc_60_Madhu
t93x73
taking-moud
I'm doing so good. that by the time my next appointment comes around, I usually have leftovers. BUT sometimes.... If i know my appointment is in 8 days, and i have 15 left, guess whos taking 2 a day until my appointment 😭 wtf
I go back and forth with the “less is more” attitude to “more is better”, specifically when my chronic pain is worse or I am depressed because of my family’s health problems. I know that is partly my addict brain thinking for me, but, it’s a process right? And a long one for some of us. The above being said, that’s great that you usually have plenty left at month end. I used to be like that more so than now. Trying to get back that way myself. 👍
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doc_70_Tanzia
C_M8
relapse
Sub and meth? Y’all think I’ll be good to take some sub? I just took a few hits off a bowl so some ice.
I use to do it. With that being said meth is probably the most evil drug on the planet imo
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doc_61_Omar
9o491w
taking-moud
Suboxone After Clean Time. I have been clean now for over a month and a half and have been on naltrexone. The naltrexone has not helped with cravings and I have little faith in sobriety. They are thinking of Suboxone, but should I just not introduce another opiate in my system? I am stuck in between risking relapse or starting a new addiction basically.
If it's between relapsing or subs, the choice is clear.
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doc_68_Joey
C_P290
relapse
Quick question Has anyone taken Buprenorphine with adderall before? Did you still feel the effects of the adderall and did you go into pwd?
My old coworker was on subs and adderall, I used to take both for fun but now I just take subs because it’s very addicting and would want them every day. Makes me feel like shit the next day physically, the addys that is.
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doc_63_Joey
C_M_P161
taking-moud
Do any of yall smoke more cigarettes/vape more? I've noticed since being on Suboxone I smoke/dip/vape more than I used too, have any of yall experienced this?Also my doctor switched me to Subutex today I have to wait on insurance authorization first, which one works best for yall Subutex or Suboxone? Why?
Yes. Just like when I was on percs and oxy it makes me want to smoke more. It makes quitting really tough.
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doc_37_Tanzia
ux3gog
tapering
Been 2mg Subs for about a month. tapered to .6 for the last 2 days, was on a milligram for the two days before that, how bad are the withdrawals going to be?
Exactly the same as if you jumped off 2mg which is generally reported as not something you want to do because of the length of time it lasts. Take care.
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doc_81_Joey
M_P_T19
taking-moud
Opioid detox in rehabs? What do you they do for there? Has anyone went away to a rehab for 2weeks- 1month for opiate dependency? What did they do to detox you. Did they taper you with subs for a week or two and you got off the subs before you left. Did you feel fine physically when you were done with the program. Or did you withdrawal from the suboxone afterwards when you left
Detoxes here in 🇨🇦 would give us the option to detox with suboxone or methadone or valium and codeine. Ive tried them all at detoxes but found the Valium and codeine to be best for detoxing since I was able to sleep
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doc_93_Joey
C_M_P194
relapse
Suboxone newbie questions🥸 My friend gave me 4 strips of 8mg Suboxone, was wondering is there is any recreational value to it? Also I barely have a tolerance to opiates I take oxy and kratom few times a month. What is roughly the average dose you can take before you get sick or PW? Any other tips or facts I should know about would be greatly appreciated as I haven’t found much information on its recreational use.
You'll just get sick and vomit a lot if you don't have a tolerance to opiates. Not worth it.
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doc_5_Joey
rcf4fg
taking-moud
Suboxone helping other issues as well.. It can’t just be me. Besides opiate withdrawals & cravings, does Suboxone help anyone else with anxiety, depression, motivation & general feeling well. Not the ( Suboxone high ) you feel from whatever doesn’t get blocked. Not euphoria at all, just proper help with those mentioned above ? Thanks so much for reading.
I wish it helped for my anxiety a little more consistently. I also essentially started opiates to battle anxiety and depression, so getting completely off of everything is a hell of a scary thought to me. But there’s so many damn days where the only cravings I have are driven strictly from my anxiety. Always glad to see I’m not completely alone in this though!
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doc_3_Madhu
rw4107
taking-moud
should i crush these sub pills for better sublingual absorption?. i just left rehab and they gave me 5 days worth of these 8mg pills (i take 4mg twice daily) i usually take strips so i’m not very familiar with the pills. they always crushed them when they gave them to me but it seemed like i always wasted a bunch when i spat the spit out. should i do them whole or crush them up? edit:sorry if there’s other posts that answer this i didn’t find any after a quick search
You can also plug the pill if needed. I use to take my strips and put one into a gelatin capsule. Then oil my bum with coconut oil and just stick it up there. It actually works really well. The downside is that you can’t spit it out. Or I guess I should say shit it out.
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doc_27_Joey
vyast2
relapse
Am I good to start subs?. It’s been 30hrs since taking 20mg of real oxy I got from a pharmacy. And 6 days no subs, am I good to start back on the subs?? I feel pretty shitty but not like in crazy WDs, I’ve been taking kratom to help though.
you could’ve taken subs hours ago. long as you’re positive they’re real pharmaceutical oxys. I used to take subs 12 hours after oxy and was doing hundreds of milligrams daily for years
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doc_63_Madhu
t6cxri
tapering
Clonidine. My doctor gave me clonidine to help if I have withdrawal symptoms while tapering. I tried clonidine when I was getting off fentanyl and it didn’t help, but the withdrawal was also really bad so maybe there’s only so much the clonidine can do. Has anyone else tried this med? I’ve only taken it that one time. It’s also a blood pressure med so I’m scared it’s dangerous
I would be intetested to know too. I have some at my disposal should I ever need it, but don't know what exactly to do with it or when to use it..
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doc_55_Tanzia
C297
relapse
Kratom & Suboxone for Quitting Thinking of using kratom to get through the 24/48 hours I need to abstain before taking subs. Anybody have any experience with this? Or will the Kratom being in my system still send me into precipitated withdrawal?
I tried kratom to get through the first couple days before taking sub and I gotta say the kratom didn't do shit for me at first. I guess cuz fent is so strong idk. I ended up having to take some benzos for like 2 days then hoped on the sub. But that was just my experience with kratom trying to make those first couple days. But now I can feel the kratom since I'm no longer on the fetty
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doc_93_Madhu
M_P532
taking-moud
2mg and wow! And can I stay here Well I thought I was gonna run out of medication so I started skipping days skipping two days. And then I waited this time until I got sick it took eight days for the withdrawals to start. I took 2 mg and I feel a small buzz. Do you think I’m probably good to stay at 2 mg now?
Damn i wonder why my wds start so much faster. I feel them the first day, same with methadone
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doc_66_Tanzia
M1214
taking-moud
Should I keep splitting my dose? I've always split my dose, i take half around 12 and the other half at 4 or 5. I'm just wondering why is it that I feel wiped out by dinner time? The half life is so long. Would I have an easier time getting through the day if I didn't split my dose?
If you do split your dose, take it every 12 hours, not at noon and then 4 or 5 hours later. You’re experiencing inconsistent levels of the drug in your system on a delayed fuse because of the long half life. Split it evenly or don’t split it.
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doc_33_Tanzia
rxtktz
taking-moud
Sub and meth?. Y’all think I’ll be good to take some sub? I just took a few hits off a bowl so some ice.
Wait till tomrw shit u might be ok to get off the subs with the meth. Nbs I had a friend who did that n took subs when she was out of ice.
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doc_107_Omar
M_P183
taking-moud
Zubsolv I cant stand the taste of Suboxone so I went with Zubsolv. "Same thing" Bupe and nx but with a mint taste which is so much better. But it seems that Im getting these just for breath mints. They are not working for me AT ALL. Any experiences with these? Do you need to be on them for a month to start feeling better or what? Im getting no relief. Also im not getting precipitated wd. Just nothing really.
Are you on generic zubsolv? When they first came out, my insurance switched me, and I used the name brand the first couple months-no issue and I liked the taste and the quicker dissolve. Then I hit the generics and it was like they did nothing! I felt like crap all the time, so I asked my doc to write that I had to have name brand on the script.
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doc_70_Omar
8gc3i0
tapering
Slow tapering works. I've been slowly tapering myself off Suboxone since September from 5.0-6.0mg/day to 0.50mg/day I just realized it's hot today at work and I'm not having hot flashes nor do I feel like I just jumped in a swimming pool. I'm finally starting to feel like I felt on higher doses at 0.50mg. Just wanted to say I guess that things DO get better and if you taper slowly the withdrawal symptoms are very manageable, even with my construction job. God just the money on saving right now makes it so worth it. Going from $300/month to $80 every couple months is great. Start tapering now if you want to get off! You've got nothing to lose!
I'm trying to do this now. For the last whole I've been dosing inconsistently between 1-2 mgs a day. I'm sticking to 2 mgs a day and after two weeks of that I'm going to reduce that to 1.75 mgs. I'm in Canada so it's quite hard to accurately dose below 2 mgs (that's the lowest mg tablet offered here). How quickly did you taper once you were a around 2 mgs?
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doc_58_Madhu
vh7jju
taking-moud
switching from methadone to suboxone. Yesterday my case worker suggested me switching to suboxone from 80mg methadone daily. She said it might work better considering my active lifestyle. Any advice or personal experiences on this topic would be greatly appreciated.
I did the Bernese Method to go from methadone to bupe and it was amazingly painless. Had to work closely with my doctor to keep the doses right but it took about 3 weeks total with mild discomfort maybe a couple days. Def recommend - I’ve been able to taper subs so easily and feel so much more like myself than I did on ‘done. Energy levels are much higher and my mood has been so much more stable. I definitely feel more like myself on the sub. I’ve already been able to cut 50% of my dose with zero discomfort:!
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doc_2_Tanzia
bpcuqn
tapering
2 doctors?. I’m currently seeing a addiction doctor, but I’m about to come off and they think withdrawals last only 3 days. On a super low dose and skipping days currently. I’m wondering if I explain to this family doctor if they can prescribe anything to help like comfort meds? Or would that be considered shady to go to a different doctor? I just can’t make it past 70 hours without anything to help. My worst symptom is being freezing. I literally get cold chills on my head. I just want something to help with that and wanted to see if anyone has went to a different doctor other than their Suboxone doctor for help with symptoms.
One time my father (this was probably 10 years ago) took me to an emergency room in withdrawal. The ER doctor was a real dick and did not prescribe anything even though my blood pressure was soaring. His diagnosis was "unspecified disorder". My dad explained to him that I had made the decision to quit using and could really use something to help with the withdrawals. You could tell the doctor was looking down at me. I think today an ER doctor would probably do something due to the massive media coverage of the opioid crisis. Maybe I'm wrong though.
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doc_33_Madhu
vn6vtf
taking-moud
Nosebleeds. I recently started taking suboxone, no nosebleeds at first but this week I have had a nosebleed everyday. I have never had nosebleeds before. Has anyone heard or seen this, should I be concerned? It has really helped me out so I don't want to stop it right now, but it does have me concerned. Also I am not snorting it or anything I just do it under the tongue like it says and it's giving me nosebleeds. Thank you for your time and consideration.
I swear the Naloxone increases pressure in my head as a side effect. I believe they count it as a possible side effect of the bupe, but Subutex never caused me any issue. Sometimes after I take too much, usually after about 16 hour mark it starts to feel like my head is slowly being released from a vice. Could have something to do with it, but I haven't heard of that either from subnlingual.
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doc_4_Joey
vxyukz
taking-moud
My subs are not lasting as long as they used to.. When I started I spaced out doses perfectly throughout the day one about every 8 hours. At one point I started taking all three at once just so it’s be easier I wouldn’t forget to take doses, but the past couple weeks I’ve been waking up in the middle of the night with hella anxiety or won’t be able to sleep in the first place unless I redose, it’s fucking me up a bit. Should I go back to spacing them out?
A lot of it is mental. You shouldn't need to dose every 8 hours. I remember when I first started taking subs I thought I needed to take one every 6-8 hours. Slowly tapered + spaced out my doses until I could last 12 hours b/w doses, and then down to 1 dose a day. It's not as hard as it seems. When I was at 12 hours b/w doses, I'd sometimes forget to dose if I was concentrating on something (which is how i know so much of it is psychological). Your body and mind is just used to frequent dosing and your brain is tricking you into thinking you need to dose more frequently. Focus on having tasks to do, even if it''s just playing video games lol.
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doc_75_Omar
r59cay
taking-moud
Zubsolv?. Has anyone ever head of zubsolv? And if so what have you heard about it? Also if anyone has tried it how does it work with the receptors? Is it better or is it worse than subs?
It has a higher bioavailability. The 5.7mg Zubsolv is supposed to be equal to 8mg subs. Also it's minty and dissolves faster. It's probably more expensive than generic subs and you have to get a script specifically for Zubsolv.
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doc_18_Madhu
x1q17y
relapse
subutex 10hours after binge with ox no pw. Wantedto throw this out there. Been on subutex for a few years recently went on a binge of pharm 30s. Waited 12 hours and no pw after 4 weeks of oc use. Then another binge with 15s and maybe 8 hours later 2 mg of tex and no pw ... wanted to throw thisout there see if anyone else has had this.. also is there a morining dose that will allow one to take oxy at night and feel effects? use is for multipel spinal fusions . God Bless.
For IR pharma pills, there’s really no risk of PWD after 8-12 hours. It’s easy to take your last dose before bed, sleep in as long as possible, wake up in withdrawals and induce subs. As for the balancing act of doing so daily, as much as it sucks you’re really just going to confuse the shit outta your brain for very little pain relief. Sure it can be done, but you’ll likely be stressed every morning and as the subs build in your body it’ll just be a waste of oxy.
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doc_50_Tanzia
q26byi
taking-moud
HAVE TO HAVE SURGERY!. I am so worried because I need to get off my subs back to pain medicine during the surgery. Does anyone is our community dealt with this..... How long before the surgery should I stop taking subs ?? PLEASEE
How much sub do you take per day and how long have you been on them? Give this a read -
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doc_52_Omar
q0w2v2
taking-moud
Relapse. I've been on 8-12mg a day for about the past year. I relapsed yesterday and today and haven't taken my Suboxone dose since Friday night. Am I able to continue with it like nothing happened or will I go into PWD if I don't wait to take it?
I'd honestly think you would be fine and if it were me I'd probably change it but I don't wanna advise you one way or the other for certain and be wrong. Best of luck though
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doc_88_Omar
C_P_T81
relapse
Anxiety after quitting suboxone My girl helped me through it but I turn, her anxiety has been cranked up as well as mine? Any suggestions? I feel so flippin bad for her but I want her to get some sleep! Does Kratom help with sleep or anxiety? Not a chance of abuse just need something to get us some sleep, tone down our anxiety, I know time is what we need most but, we are grabbing at straws right now lol
I have heard good success stories about Kratom and it’s supposed to help with sleep so I’m considering trying it myself. Hope y’all can find some relief- I know the struggle all too well
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doc_36_Madhu
vusheb
taking-moud
Interested in starting the Bernese Method.. I’ve heard good things about this method and I want to try it to get off fentanyl (using around 10-15 strong pressed 30’s daily). How do I start and what would you recommend for a dose? (22, Male, 110/115lbs.)
I got off the blues a year ago and did the Bernese Method. Start with a super small dose of Subs like smaller than .5mg or 1/16 of a 8mg strip. Slowly increase the Subs daily. Once you are at 16mg per day on subs, you technically can't get high off of the blues so you will stop the blues at this point and then slowly taper off of the Subs. Take 10-14 days to get up to 16mg per day. If you start with too much Sub dose you will start sweating and go into WDs. Good luck!
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doc_92_Madhu
M1062
taking-moud
How to: pain meds On subs and have an emergency that may require pain meds for a month or so. How is that transition facilitated? Drop subs dose and start taking exclusively pain meds, or what needs to happen?
I hade some dental work done and we (doc and myself) came up with a plan using the subs to manage then pain for a few days then I went back to my normal doses.
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doc_83_Madhu
C_M659
relapse
Literally just quit percs. Getting a suboxone script on Friday. Gonna have to suck it up and deal through the next 36 hours. Anyone have any suggestions on how to make it a little less shitty? I’m honestly kind of terrified. Also, do you think this is enough time to avoid precipitated withdrawls? Praying this this whole suboxone thing works for me.
Please start low on your dosage when you start. I repeatedly see people suggesting they took 4mg (and even more!). This is the way to go into precipitated withdrawals. Start out as low as you can possibly go, 0.25mg is ideal. I really wish you all the success! Take back your life!
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doc_19_Omar
rwpub2
relapse
Anyone on benzos and subs?. Met w my doctor/NP and am taking my Xanax 1mg 2 times a day along with 6mg of suboxone. Is this normal? I have crippling anxiety and would’ve quit the subs to stay on it to be able to work, but then my cravings would come back. Who else here is on both?
I wish. I've had terrible anxiety my whole life. You'll be alright especially if you have atolerance for the opiates. It's actually probably better that you continue to get the xanax . Be careful though, some pharmacies won't fill a benzo opioid combo anymore
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doc_77_Joey
T124
tapering
Went lower in my taper Last night I went to .50 and there was no difference really .. been tapering since early June •6/3-4mg •6/15-2mg •6/28-1.5 mg •7/14-1.25mg •7/29-1 Mg •8/13-.75 mg •8/27-.50mg
Just jumped 5 days ago from 0.125mg. Im noticing nothing. Ive done this before too but this time im not interested in any opiate anymore.
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doc_28_Joey
vyast2
taking-moud
Am I good to start subs?. It’s been 30hrs since taking 20mg of real oxy I got from a pharmacy. And 6 days no subs, am I good to start back on the subs?? I feel pretty shitty but not like in crazy WDs, I’ve been taking kratom to help though.
you could’ve taken subs hours ago. long as you’re positive they’re real pharmaceutical oxys. I used to take subs 12 hours after oxy and was doing hundreds of milligrams daily for years
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doc_26_Madhu
s7hmft
taking-moud
Right dose ?. I was put on 14mg of suboxone about 4 weeks ago for a 120 to 160 mg of oxy a day. I'm just curious if that's a good dose or is it to much? I feel good and im able to get through my days just fine! but I here stories of people always saying you don't need as much as you think and that doctors can be horrible at getting your dose right
I’m on 16 mg for the same thing bro . How did you feel for the transition? Like oxy to subs ?
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doc_56_Madhu
q59bql
taking-moud
Can i jump from 1mg?. I have previously jumped from 0,8mg and was fine then as i can handle WD’s pretty well, i just want this to get over with and i wonder what is the difference.
Dont wanna brag but i can go into wd after months on Heroin is bupe so Hard or did you take it for years?
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doc_15_Madhu
x2p03u
relapse
Help! First time taking suboxone. I’ve been taking 20mg oxys (not prescribed but get it from someone it is) been taking them for 2 years now and I’m now at about 30-60mg a day. I do take hydromorphone (30mg) and Percocet (30mg) on the days I don’t have oxys. Now I’m so tired of this that I asked a friend of mine for suboxone. He gave me 10/2.5mg pills (the ones that dissolve under the tongue) I’m scared to start taking any of it because of pwd. So my question is, if I took 40mg of hydro with 20mg of Percocet the day before (9hours) when can I take the suboxone and how much? Should I just take one tablet??
Time isn’t as much of a concern as withdrawal symptoms. Use the COWS scale. There’s plenty of websites you can use to help you determine how far you’re into withdrawal. Some people may be 10-12 hours and some may be 20-24 hours.
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doc_2_Omar
ky9a6m
relapse
Please help..my sister is trying to kick and she is driving me nuts ..does a cotton shot interfere when your on subs for 5 days. My sister has been on subs for 5 days ,had precepts,she still has the skin crawlies so decided to do a cotton shot .does she have to wait 24 hrs to dose ,again,..thanks
It could depend on how much dope she got out of that cotton... If it was just a tiny bit it might not affect her inducing on Subs again, but if it got her high or comfortable, then using opiates pretty much means she’ll have to start over and wait the 24 hours all over again.
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doc_52_Tanzia
tzs929
taking-moud
Headaches on Suboxone. For some reason the generic alvogen 2mg strips are giving me horrible headaches so I switched back to the 2mg brand which cost $200 more:/. I wanted to know if anyone has experience with zubzolv or if it’s recommended for people with headaches as my insurance will cover zubzolv but not the brand suboxone. or does anyone have suggestions to stop headaches I take 2mg a day but not feeling ready to taper more yet.
Man I took zubsolv at once and for some reason that stuff made me violently ill. I only used it because I didn’t have subs available (at the time I was getting them off the street and only used them when I couldn’t find pills) so I figured Meh, how much difference could it make. It was a regrettable decision that led to some very unpleasant side effects. To this day i dunno why I got so sick 🤷‍♀️. Never heard of anyone else having this problem.
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doc_45_Joey
waq6nv
taking-moud
Been off Subs 7 days, going back on tomorrow- how much?. As said, been off 7 days- 20mg/daily prior for 6 months. It was a financial necessity but rather uncomfortable now and cash flow has improved. My concerns are: don’t want to hurt myself taking too much and do not want to get the daily dose that high again. I was thinking start with 4mg am, 4pm and hope it’s enough to relieve wd symptoms, then adjust up carefully if need be. any thoughts appreciated. Prior it was the dirty 30s that did me in, about 90mg/day for a year.
No one else lives in your body, only you know what you need to stay clean and live your life. Your plan of 4am and 4pm seems perfectly reasonable to me, though. Edit:typo
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doc_95_Madhu
C_P351
relapse
Can I take suboxone if I feel like using crazy cravings My nose is running like aches and pain haven't used in 18 days and still feeling like crap what should I do do a lil d or take a 4mg sub what would y'all do please 🥺 hell
I mean obviously don't do ope if your asking us. Just take a tiny tiny bit of sub and wait a bit. If you too a tiny piece off I'm sure you'll be fine and feel a lot better.
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doc_90_Madhu
M_T53
taking-moud
Opened Suboxone I am trying to do a full taper with about 90 subs and lately I am down to about 3 mg from the original 24 mg and sometimes more prescribed but my question is this: I have alot of subs already opened because I was cutting them up for smaller does and now they are dried out but, I need to know if I can still use them ?
Yeah I did when I was tapering myself. I just managed to get back on. Careful out there. We are often defenseless against that first drug and don't even realize what's happening until it's too late
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doc_28_Tanzia
jhpi18
taking-moud
How long do I have to wait to take a Suboxone after drinking a beer?. I wanted to drink a beer with some friends tonight, but I was wondering how long I had to wait to take my next Suboxone now?
I drink all the time on subs, although I could not drink on suboxone, had to get straight bupe, the naloxone caused me bad headaches and really bad hangovers, no idea why, but i drink daily now
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doc_87_Omar
M1306
taking-moud
Wooowee! I just took my first tablet this morning after being on strips for a few months. Gross (lol). I thought I hated the taste of the strips, but dang (lol). Any advice, experience with the two, aside from the obvious “don’t be such a wuss?” Haha. Hope everyone has a great Sunday (for those of you on my side of the planet).
Everytime i dose, I HAVE to have some sort of mint with it. The white tic tacs work best as they aren't too big and pack a little more minty punch than the other ones I've tried. Altoids work well too. I just dose and wait a couple minutes then pop a mint.
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doc_1_Tanzia
v6dap2
tapering
Cut my dose in half. Just wanted to give my appreciation to this group. I was able to cut my dose from 8 mg a day for the last 9 month down to 4 with ease . Would have never had the confidence to do so without the experience that you all have provided me to go off of. I have a long way to go from here but at least for the time being don’t feel over saturated on my current dose. Will be down to 2 by the end of summer . Thank you guys for support
How long ago did you cut from 8 to 4? I ask because anytime I dropped from 8 to 4 it was at least 12 days before I noticed any symptoms at all. That said, it was very mild and only lasted for 2 maybe 3 days max, then I was stable. Either way, good job and here's to your continued success with the taper.
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doc_89_Joey
C_M_P141
relapse
Help me off da bluezz I’ve been taking fent for a few months and I’m trying really hard to get off them. If I don’t wait long enough after the last time I take fent to take a sub I get super sick, so I know I need to wait 24-36 hrs before I take my subs. Problem is with this fent I start getting sick after like 8 hours, can I take Kratom to get me to the 24-36 hour mark? Or will mixing them not work?
I give y’all props for answering the same question over and over and over
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doc_51_Joey
t5q9oa
taking-moud
Side effects above 8mg. Anyone notice any additional side effects above 8mg. Usually i take 8mg and i started taking around 10mg after moving. Bunch of drama with old roommates and i had to serve them eviction papers. I got a rash on top of it, pretty sure it was just a sweat rash since i was moving shit for like 8 hours a day 3 days in a row without showering. Now im back on normal schedule again still taking 10mg and my skin is completely messed up my face is all dry. The rash went away when i used hydrocortisone cream but damn shits annoying ive never had issues like this before.
I had different side effects but I was so sick everyday when I was on 16mg. It was literally absolutely miserable for me. I dropped to 8mg (gradually) and felt so much better. I’m now at 6mg and it seems to be my sweet spot.
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doc_3_Omar
ky9a6m
taking-moud
Please help..my sister is trying to kick and she is driving me nuts ..does a cotton shot interfere when your on subs for 5 days. My sister has been on subs for 5 days ,had precepts,she still has the skin crawlies so decided to do a cotton shot .does she have to wait 24 hrs to dose ,again,..thanks
It could depend on how much dope she got out of that cotton... If it was just a tiny bit it might not affect her inducing on Subs again, but if it got her high or comfortable, then using opiates pretty much means she’ll have to start over and wait the 24 hours all over again.
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doc_41_Omar
qd77tp
relapse
What to do when someone is thrown into precipitated withdrawals by taking suboxone?. What do you do in this situation? god forbid this happens to me. but I took a little break and was using for the past 72 hours and think it’s probably time to jump back in the regimen before it’s too late… or is it already too late? I plan on taking a super small amount to start, but I also am currently (slightly) high on Percocet. I say slightly bc I barely even feel it… likely bc I still have subs in my system? if so, that means i’m straight and will avoid pwd? Please please help, im terrified of pwd.
Take drugs to stop pwd. Not worth the suffering
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doc_36_Omar
x4kjrg
relapse
I finally did it. I finally induced Suboxone without going through precipitated withdrawal. After 4 attempts with relapses in between, I finally took 4 mg today (2 mg twice) without feeling precipitated withdrawal.. I waited until I was gagging on cigarettes and had a couple sneezing fits. I even made it to the tigers game today in club seats! Great day today.
A day at the ballpark is always a good day
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doc_64_Omar
u9k4js
relapse
hm time I need to wait after a IV dilaudid shot. today i want to iv dillies ive took 12mg of subox 27h ago. my question is hm time I need to wait between my last hit n my next thing of suboxone 12h?? or less
Depends on if you take suboxone daily or if you just took 12 mg that one time.
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doc_8_Omar
q5c46b
tapering
when will i feel normal and have energy lol. obviously this cannot be answered 100% but i’d like to hear how things have been for other people. i was on 8mg daily for like 4 months then i dropped kinda cold turkey i was using 4mg until i ran out and also occasionally using. so i’ve been off subs for about a month and i’m still just so exhausted. ive been considering going back on them just to have energy. everything feels like a chore.
Shouldn't be too long, just be happy you didn't stay on them for like 10 years.
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doc_21_Joey
snnboa
taking-moud
Zubsolv. So I am taking 12mg/day of the crappy generic strips. I have tried zubsolv and like it so much better. Anyone here take zubsolv and able to fill your rx without issues? I am a little concerned they would be hard to find and worried I would have to hunt them down every month and go to several pharmacies to find them. Thanks!
Probably going to need a prior authorization. Tell your doctor to start the process and maybe add notes saying you’re having problems with it then call your insurance company and follow up with them so it moves along more smoothly As far as pharmacy’s even if they don’t have them they will order them to fill your prescription. You’ll have better luck with a chain pharmacy like CVS
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doc_72_Tanzia
T481
tapering
Question about bupe I'm on 8 mg 2 1/2 a day Hi I was curious how severe would my withdrawal be if I was to quit cold turkey been on them for over 3 years also how would a taper be? Any experiences?
Would not suggest. Check out this sub for info and reach out. Good people around these parts for the most part. We are all in this together. Good luck!
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doc_80_Tanzia
M_P530
taking-moud
can you overdose on Suboxone? I'm jw if it's possible to OD on Suboxone? I'm on 8mg a day. But if someone took say 10-20 8mg pills and dissolved do you think it would kill someone who is used to them and takes them everyday?
If they did, they would feel absolutely horrible and suffer agony before they died. Too much Bup makes one feel absolutely atrocious, and it kills the liver. Its possible that they wouldn't die immediately but would do so much damage to the liver that they would die a long and drawn out agonizing death, like in Acetaminophen poisoning. Hopefully, nobody would ever wanna try that...
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doc_48_Omar
wlb34b
relapse
quick help please!. i’ve been on a heroin detox on 24mg of subutex for the past 4 days. a couple hours ago i slipped and used, after already taking 16 mgs of subutex. should i take my third dose of 8mgs tonight? or wait the 24 hours?
You should wait until you're in proper withdrawal. Give it 36 hours to be safe Sorry you're going through this. Don't beat yourself up It happens. Just pick yourself up and try to figure out what triggered this so you can avoid it next time Also,in my country ( Canada) Addicts can get heroin prescribed,it's called Diamorphine. I don't know what country you're in but look into seeing if this is an option where you are, it's safer.
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doc_81_Madhu
P_T331
tapering
Will I withdrawal from bupe after 3 days of taking Suboxone? I took 6 mgs then 4mgs then 2mg’s yesterday. It was closer to 2 1/2 days because I took 6 mgs the night before then 4mg’s the next morning and then 2mg’s yesterday. I don’t plan to take anymore as I feel fine but will I have any Suboxone withdrawals due to the long long half live?
if you taken opiates before that the answer is yes, if you're clean from opiates than-nope
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doc_60_Omar
qbhjmu
tapering
My provider screwed my script up and now I am going cold turkey at 2MGs.?. Does anyone have experience taking Adderall to help with WD symptoms? Or has anyone had luck using kratom after jumping at 2mgs? Any and all advice appreciated! I just moved and before tried to pickup my script in the state I saw the provider in but there was some issue at the pharmacy when I went to pick up my script and they will not call in a script to a pharmacy in my new place of residence without me being seen again but there clinic is a couple hours from where I live.
Have them call in the script to a cvs or Walgreens or Walmart in the state you used to live tgen have them transfer to the pharmacy of your choice in all 50 states! Lol
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doc_1_Joey
vx12v1
taking-moud
Proper way to take multiple strips?. So I've been on 2mg bupe 3x a day; 4mg in morning, and 2mg in evening. Will admit, I've been liking taking all three strips in the morning instead of spacing them out. 6mg seems to be a real good dose for me. But how exactly should I put those three strips in my mouth? I've heard that you shouldnt stack/overlap strips on each other because it wont absorb properly or whatever. Is that true? If so, how can I take all three strips while avoiding this?
I’m pretty sure it tells you how right on the insert. But the answer on there is do 2, wait, do it again. This is like the third or 4th “how do I take my strips post” just today. 🤦‍♀️
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doc_22_Tanzia
rw7u9g
relapse
Adderall and suboxone?. Probably a long shot, but is anyone else prescribed suboxone and adderall? I'm having a really hard time finding a psychiatrist that will write my adderall script because I'm on suboxone. I have a current physician but she is a bitch. I have another appointment next month with a psychiatrist and I'm hoping she will continue my medication. If you are prescribed both what kind of doctor do you see? Maybe an addiction specialist? Just looking to see if it happens, or if I'm just dreaming lol.
It's tough but not impossible. Start with the psychiatrist. Make sure you have a legitimate need and that you know how to communicate that.
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doc_39_Tanzia
v5l4fh
taking-moud
brief short relapse.. I relapsed on heroin for under a week. Like 3 to 4 days. Am i good to take a small piece ?
I know everyone’s already said it it’s the Bupe That will cause precipitated withdrawals it’s a bully it will knock everything off your receptors and bind tightly Which will cause you to go into precipitated withdrawals the naloxone is dormant unless you attempt to abuse the Suboxone i.e. shoot it up etc. but yeah it’s The bupe So it doesn’t matter if you use Suboxone or Subutex you’re still risking precipitated withdrawal
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doc_45_Omar
t622vp
relapse
Looking for best way to come off from this point. Detoxed from a nasty fent habit. Been on subs for 7 days. At this point I've taken 2mg total today and I am mostly stable with minor lingering fent withdrawal. What is the best way to get off subs completely from this point with the least amount of discomfort as possible. Any advice is much appreciated. Thank you!
Dude, literally just detoxed from fent at a local detox in upstate ny. I’m in the same exact boat. Went In there cause fent took my apartment and job. Took 8 mgs of sub 40 hours in. Luckily dodged precip. It’s been exactly one week since day one of detox. I left 3 days in with a 7 day 4 mg script. I took 4 mg yesterday morning as my last dose but have been slamming Kratom since cause I have to work and I get really fucking depressed
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doc_74_Joey
C_M_P57
taking-moud
Weird experiment i tried, would like your guys opinion! So I’ve had trouble getting on subs for about 4 months now, finally i said fuck it today. I took 8 mg, usually end up in withdrawal about an hour later, but this time i did some coke about an hour after dosing, and i don’t feel withdrawal? Or if i do it’s VERY VERY minimal? Why is this?
it's just the coke high. once u crash you'll feel so much worse than u would have.
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doc_13_Joey
q4n28n
tapering
Reducing my use. Hi I’m current on 4mg (2mg twice daily) and keen to keep reducing. My problem is that I’m only able to get 8mg tablets. How do I spilt these tablets accurately considering they crumble very easily?
Either crush it into a powder and get a 0.001g scale (a 1mg scale +/- about 5 if you're weighing at least 100mg), or make a volumetric solution. Volumetric dosing is easier via nasal/rectal use, but if it's concentrated enough normal sublingual use should work too. I'm at 5mg/day subbed (or 2.8mg/day snorted/plugged) and have been dropping down by 0.1mg every 3-4 days.
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doc_90_Omar
M429
taking-moud
Can I start over??? I have been using low dose of subs to still take and feel a low dose of pills at night! This is not how suboxone should be used obviously and I want to start over and do it right with suboxone only so I can get clean! How would you suggest starting over ???
I wld suggest if u want to “feel” like ur making a clean break so to speak, hold off on taking subs or Oxy if u can, I know it’s not easy, but hold off until u feel like ur in withdrawal’s, get rid of any oxy, delete phone numbers, etc. then start on small dose of sub and increase if necessary, if u wait until ur in withdrawals u know for sure the oxy is out of ur system
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doc_45_Madhu
oud797
tapering
Have you successfully gotten off suboxone?? If so, how long has it been and how long did it take you?. My doctor told me today that he’s only had 3-4 patients come off so that made me feel pretty hopeless. Tell me your success stories! Edit: WOW!!! Thank you all SO much for taking the time to tell me your stories and the details about your experiences. It’s really invaluable for me and I will continue to revisit your responses over the next year that I tackle this. I’m always impressed by the generosity and kindness of internet strangers willing to take time to share. Thank you all.
Went from 8-16mg for 8-9 years and got off on a 5 day taper(insanely fast) but it worked and wasn’t that bad honestly. I’m 140ish days sober from everything and I’m loving every bit of it. It’s SO SO worth it in every angle
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doc_85_Madhu
P_T557
tapering
Brain zaps from tapering Usually you get it from coming off antidepressants or gabapetin but I’ve noticed I get them when I taper. Has anybody else experienced this symptom?
Yes. It will gradually subside once you stop ingesting whatever substance is causing it. For me, it was Buspar.its scary, but it isn't dangerous if you stop the substance that's causing it.
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doc_67_Joey
M_P102
taking-moud
Anyone on Subutex... not suboxone? Subutex is just straight Buprenorphine... no Nalaxone blocker. Ive been taking them for about 3 years now.... its kind of a pain in the ass, but its better than withdrawls. I also agree that it kind of flatlines my personality. PB in Portland, OR &x200B;
I'm on buprenorphine which I guess is the generic form of subutex. I like it. I mainly use it for pain relief as I had already passed the wd from oxy when I got on it. Problem was I couldn't stay off of opiates because of my pain. I had tried some suboxone once for wd another time and noticed that it helped with pain so I decided to get on subs instead of always chasing pills and to save $
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doc_65_Tanzia
C_P246
relapse
Avoiding withdrawals for two days if at all possible Hi all I’ve been on subs via a scrip for two years but I will be out for the next three days. I have: 1. Kratom 950 mg 2. Gabapentin 800 mg What should I take and when to avoid feelings of dopesickness and discomfort for 2-3 days? Thanks!
When I C/T a few years ago off of between 8-16 mg/day it took 9 days for withdrawls to hit. And they hit like a fucking buzzsaw. But that shows just how long this shit stays in your system. You'll be fine for 48 hrs.
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doc_51_Madhu
qwi7ou
relapse
I don’t know what the F to do😿. So I accidentally got hooked on fake roxies didn’t even know that was a thing (. I’ve been clean off of opiates for four years got back on them because of declining health issues)...Once I found out what I was taking was bullshit started buying Suboxone strips off the street but I could take her down and be off of them within a month here we are four months later it is not happening I do not have time to go to rehab or takeoff of work any advice
Yeah man why keep it your little secret.....your someone who doesn't belong here.
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doc_8_Tanzia
qv91px
tapering
Suboxone vs heroin withdrawal?. I know what h withdrawal feels like. Been through it too many times. How does it compare to suboxone withdrawal? (assume I am jumping off at a low dose and have a plan w my doctor)
I'd rather go through full agonist withdrawal and I've been through some bad ones. The suffering is much worse at first but you recover much faster.
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doc_11_Joey
mjov07
relapse
Suboxone and 0.25 mg Klonopin. Hi everyone, I’ve been on Suboxone for a while now (4 years or so). I usually take 3 mg of Suboxone but today I took 2.5 because I wanted to use Klonopin later tonight (I need to wake up very early and I want to fall asleep at 1:00 am instead of 4:00 am. I took the Klonopin (about 0.25 mg) just now. Will I be ok? And is it ok to smoke a little bit of bud afterwards? Thank you. I don’t think the small dosage of Klonopin will have much of an effect, but I just want to be safe. Thank you.
Yes just don’t make a habit of the k pins
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doc_62_Tanzia
C470
relapse
Bupe.me / quickmd, should I tell them I’m on suboxone that I got from a friend? Quit opiates about 4 days ago and my friend gave me 5 8mg subs that I split in half Ive been on the subs for about 7 days now, should I tell bupe.me or quickmd that I’m taking subs from a friend or should I just tell them I’m addicted to oxys?
Be honest it will give u the best way to go
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doc_23_Omar
hkbbou
taking-moud
Just started Suboxone. Hey everyone, I just started Suboxone today. My doctor has me on 2mg tabs 4x/day. I was wondering if anyone else started their dosing like this or If anyone has advice on being on Suboxone maintenance. I’m pretty nervous about taking the medication because I’ve read all the horror stories about trying to get off it, but at this point I feel like I’ve tried everything else and just want my quality of life back. Any comments would be appreciated!
I haven’t heard 4x a day, generally they do one dose or two doses. But of course, this really depends on your body. There are horror stories about subs being harder but in my opinion, all these opiates are hard to get off of, and if it was so easy, we wouldn’t need Suboxone at all! Life would be grand ya. We alsohave a better chance of tapering with something that has a higher half life. And it also helps craving. You’re going to feel off for a bit, but believe me, it’ll be worth it. Don’t give up!
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