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doc_6_Tanzia
uluym9
relapse
Avoiding withdrawals for two days if at all possible. Hi all I’ve been on subs via a scrip for two years but I will be out for the next three days. I have: 1. Kratom 950 mg 2. Gabapentin 800 mg What should I take and when to avoid feelings of dopesickness and discomfort for 2-3 days? Thanks!
Also Gabapentin doesn't come in 8mg. Are they 800mg? Two of those at bedtime will help you sleep great and curb any psychological WD as well.
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doc_51_Tanzia
q26byi
tapering
HAVE TO HAVE SURGERY!. I am so worried because I need to get off my subs back to pain medicine during the surgery. Does anyone is our community dealt with this..... How long before the surgery should I stop taking subs ?? PLEASEE
How much sub do you take per day and how long have you been on them? Give this a read -
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doc_25_Joey
p3ea27
relapse
Quickmd honesty?. On day 5 of bernese method.. Have used subs in the past altho not prescribed. After crazy pwd have slowly been inducing over past week. Question is when contacting quickmd.for the first time How truthful should I be? Do I tell them I've taken them b4 for 2+years though not prescribed?? Do I mention the week long induction I've started because I have ptsd from pwd from taking subs too soon bottom line . Do I say I'm starting withdraw or already taking subs bought off the street?
They are addiction doctors this is the kinda stuff they expect to hear honestly.
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doc_84_Joey
P_T69
tapering
When will I feel normal? I’ve been off for a little over a month and I still feel off. Exhausted, emotional, pain, labored breathing. Etc. 13 yrs at high doses and j jumped from 2mg. Just looking for some light.
I was on it for 11 years jumped off 4 mg a little over 5 months ago .Give it a while longer like 3 or more months you will start to feel better and better .If you can start to exercise definitely do it .It helps tremendously. Keep your head up I promise a corner will turn soon .
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doc_94_Joey
C_M_P194
taking-moud
Suboxone newbie questions🥸 My friend gave me 4 strips of 8mg Suboxone, was wondering is there is any recreational value to it? Also I barely have a tolerance to opiates I take oxy and kratom few times a month. What is roughly the average dose you can take before you get sick or PW? Any other tips or facts I should know about would be greatly appreciated as I haven’t found much information on its recreational use.
You'll just get sick and vomit a lot if you don't have a tolerance to opiates. Not worth it.
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doc_41_Madhu
x3838c
relapse
Sleep pattern?. So iv been taking 2 8mg films for about a year, I take them both in the morning at about 5:30am. And for the past year i get up all night usually about every hour, wide awake. I get up go for a smoke and then fall back asleep for another hour just to wake up again and do it all over again. But yesterday, I only took 1 film in the morning instead of 2, and it’s the first time in a year that i slept through the night. Even slept past 6am for the first time in years. Now my question is, did I sleep better because I took less medicine? Is the 16mg a day causing irregular sleep patterns? If anybody els experienced this please comment. THANKS!
Yes. It’s affecting how your body feels good. You wake up in the middle of the night because your body is like hey I feel right. But something is not normal. I’m not right am I. You’re liying to me. I’m not right! But you are so you go back to sleep. Methadone keeps me asleep. I noticed that too while on suboxone. I would always want to take my dose at night. Bc It would make me feel like ok I’m dosed I’ll sleep now. Methadone I take at night but I noticed I slept better than on heroin
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doc_65_Omar
u9k4js
taking-moud
hm time I need to wait after a IV dilaudid shot. today i want to iv dillies ive took 12mg of subox 27h ago. my question is hm time I need to wait between my last hit n my next thing of suboxone 12h?? or less
Depends on if you take suboxone daily or if you just took 12 mg that one time.
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doc_70_Madhu
M_P169
taking-moud
Adjustment period? Just wondering why I feel like crap the first day was bad now im doing better able to walk around and eat more. I was on 22mg and I decided to switch over to suboxone for a couple different reasons. Is it normal to feel withdrawal or is my dosing not stable yet ? I'm at 14mg suboxone and I started at 4mg like 3 days ago.
I did just what you did of my own accord a long time ago. If you decide to switch back to methadone at some point you can do that immediately. Good luck
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doc_16_Joey
umzrqk
taking-moud
Doing fentanyl for a day?... If someone has been taking Suboxone daily for a few months and slips up and does fentanyl dope for a day or two, can they jump right back on their sub dose without going into precipitated withdrawal?...
Typically, yes you can jump right back on if it was only a day or two using without any bupe ...especially if you were previously taking 8mg a day.
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doc_97_Omar
M654
taking-moud
Accidentally left my Subs in my car overnight, the temperature got down to 10° Fahrenheit. I noticed it said on the package to not let it get below 59°. Is it possible that the medication is now ruined? Has anybody else done this before? Thanks Edit: used one of the strips about 20 minutes ago, they seem to work totally fine. Thanks to everybody for their input
They’ll b good I do that all the time for future reference don’t worry bout it
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doc_14_Tanzia
wag8r2
taking-moud
taking Subutex instead of Suboxone. What's the difference between taking Subutex instead of Suboxone? I've heard there's no difference.
Subutex has been better in lots of different ways. But It can be hard to convince a Dr to switch you. The abuse potential is a lot higher.
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doc_5_Madhu
tikz5n
relapse
pw avoidance..subs and kratom. I take 3 4mg subs a day Yesterday i only took kratom and my last dose was at 4pm it is now 7 am will i be good to take my sub
Yea you should be fine. Did yiou get any effect from the kratom yesterday?
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doc_60_Tanzia
C_M644
relapse
for those who have been living while on suboxone for a long period of time are you ever allowed to consume alcohol? can you smoke weed on them safely? does kratom work while on suboxone? what if you ever want to used another drug ( that’s not an opioid ) while your tapering subs? sorry for all the questions. day 2 on subs for me :)
I smoke everynight to sleep and I'll have a couple hard lemonades every once in a while. It just depends on knowing your limits or knowing that you dont have a particular addiction to those substances. Subs and alcohol "can" cause respiratory depression but its less than combining with other opioids such as methadone.
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doc_83_Omar
C229
relapse
Smoking weed I know most clinics make you take a drug test to make sure you're actually taking it and not taking opioids. But what about weed? Does your clinic let you smoke weed whilst on suboxone? I've moved states and got different insurance but I found a love for delta 8 which will still pop for thc. Do you guys smoke? If so what does your doc/clinic say about it?
I live in an illegal state and mine don't care if I smoke weed, as long as I don't use opioids.
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doc_49_Madhu
qxkq99
relapse
Getting back on subs. So I’ve relapsed this last week and went really hard and need your advice. Since last Friday I was using 10 + pressed 30s. I need to get back on subs and I need to function because work is crazy right now. I have 10 left, what would be the best way to get clean again. Please help I’m really in a bad spot. Can I do the berenes with work 10 pills? Will tapering down help? Edit. Forgot to mention I have plenty of subs Down to three m30s but can get more… smh
Yes agreed, taper as best you can (but like, REALLY be serious about tapering correctly) and keep on the subs.
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doc_56_Tanzia
P_T292
tapering
Withdrawl from 8 mg I had to quit cold turkey and I’ve been feeling terrible the past 3 days I’ve only been on 8 mg for about a year so I’m hoping the physical symptoms won’t last more then a week can someone please give me some advise on what to expect?
“Only 8mg”? 8mg is a lot, a lot.
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doc_6_Madhu
tikz5n
taking-moud
pw avoidance..subs and kratom. I take 3 4mg subs a day Yesterday i only took kratom and my last dose was at 4pm it is now 7 am will i be good to take my sub
Yea you should be fine. Did yiou get any effect from the kratom yesterday?
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doc_46_Madhu
vqxgu3
relapse
Alcohol and suboxone. I haven’t seen anything about having a drink while taking subs. Will it make you sick or is a casual, occasional drink ok?
I drank heavily on subs for years with no issue
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doc_15_Tanzia
fbmii2
relapse
Need Advice PLEASE on K. Just relocated and I didn’t have time to pick up my RX my doctor called in last minute for my Zubsolv before flying out now I am stuck without i. I am waiting for post office to open so my mom can send my meds tomorrow but until then I have a toddler and no idea what to do, has anyone really has success with Kratom as I am on the fence about getting it but will if it works. Just scared to take it because I take depression and ADHD meds?
I'd like to know if it works for you ? How will you get it where you are at ? Convenience store ?? GNC Center ??
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doc_108_Omar
M641
taking-moud
Absorption question So I take two 2mg subs twice a day and the only thing I'm hating about suboxone so far is that it takes so long for the pill to disolve under my tongue, like 30 minutes or more. Does anyone else have troubles with this
Crush it up in a folded 3X5 notecard and use it as a funnel to pour into your mouth.
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doc_39_Omar
seg8wz
taking-moud
I stopped using and my subs aren’t working. Hello I recently am ending a relapse and waiting until I was pretty sick to take subs, I didn’t go into PWD but subs aren’t working? I still fell pretty sick, not overwhelming but uncomfortable. Am I supposed to take more? I took 2 mg waited tooo 4mg and took another 4mg
Keep taking them in low doses, they’ll start to work. You have to give it time to bind to your receptors properly and stabilize on it. Gone are the days of getting instant relief from subs bc the dope out there is just fent at this point and is so strong. My last relapse lasted a couple months and it took me about 10 days to stabilize. Keep pushing through though you can do it! If you can ask your doctor for some clonidine and maybe something for sleep it can help tremendously. Clonidine alone is a lifesaver for me while transitioning from heroin/fent to bupe. Good luck friend!!
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doc_9_Tanzia
us06qg
taking-moud
Skipping days rather than cutting pills. After being prescribed 2mg tabs daily, I let my doc know that I thought the dose was too high. He told me to cut the pills, which is not that easy. I know i can make powder piles that are measured out, but instead of measuring out tiny piles, would it work take 1mg every other day, for example, for an average of .5 per day? My opi tolerance is (apparently) fairly low and I don't get sick when skipping time, I just get extremely depressed and anxious if I take \*too\* long off.
Yes , is the answer to your question. The Skipping Days Method is designed to lower your tolerance. I would still lower the amount also, imo 1mg is still a very high dose. I just haven't heard of anyone using this method at a relatively high dose and then jump off at some point in the method. Vs. doing both,, lowering the dosage And implement the Skipping Days Method. Smoother jump imo.
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doc_105_Omar
M_P_T20
tapering
Opioid detox in rehabs? What do you they do for there? Has anyone went away to a rehab for 2weeks- 1month for opiate dependency? What did they do to detox you. Did they taper you with subs for a week or two and you got off the subs before you left. Did you feel fine physically when you were done with the program. Or did you withdrawal from the suboxone afterwards when you left
I was drug tested for the first few days until I had no fentanyl in my system and then they gave me a medicine called Subutex and tapered me off that and then then started the suboxone for maintenance
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doc_97_Madhu
T448
tapering
Anyone get off buprenorphine in a treatment center? I just can't keep tapering for another year+, and I'm on benzodiazapines, which take a longer time to detox from than most treatment centers allow. Has anyone found a flexible place to help me get them out of my system and healing? &x200B; Thank you.
It's tough enough coming off an opiate in the 30 days or however long a rehab lets you stay, but doing a benzo on top of it would be foolish. Most people don't recommend doing a rehab detox for benzos because a long taper is much smoother. The times I've tried to cold turkey benzos has turned into hell on earth.
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doc_42_Joey
r1t1mh
taking-moud
Does anyone else find their dose doesn’t last 24hrs?. When I was on 6mg or above my dose would normally last around 22/23hrs. But now I’m on 1.4mg I’m finding it only lasting 20hrs I’m waking up early with aching legs and really uncomfortable. I’m on subutex (no naloxone) anyone else have this problem?
Yes you can sweat it out. I spoke to my doc I was on 18mg tab for years then I said I am a Sweating it out and he gave me 30 more
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doc_99_Madhu
P_T679
tapering
We’re you super tired when you tapered? Sorry I forgot to ask in my last post.. i am so tired when I taper down. It sucks. I couldn’t figure it out but every time I taper down I’m just so bloody tired. Amazed my old doctor said I could taper from 6- nothing in 3 weeks. I would have ended up in the hospital.
How were the nausea symptoms? How long would they last while you were tapering.
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doc_5_Tanzia
gj42cn
relapse
Drug test coming up. So, I really need your all advise. I've smoked weed seeing if it could help me not take suboxone anymore since I don't want to stay on it. Yet, I'm not ready to come off just yet I still have to take a drug test. I haven't smoked that much at all but still need to make sure my test will be clean. I can't believe I'm asking this but can I get clean pee and drop Suboxone in it since I have friends that don't do anything at all...
Man, I’m so lucky my sub doctor doesn’t care that I smoke weed. It’s been in all my drug tests, but he’s never said one word about it. I’m hoping when I move I can find another doctor who is reasonable. I was never honest either. I never said anything about it and he never said anything about it. I’d do the test, then save the honesty for if he says something
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doc_11_Tanzia
qvkq6m
relapse
Relapsing on suboxone. How do people relapse on suboxone if the suboxone doesn’t allow the (DOC) opioid to bind? Wouldn’t it just not work?
I was stuck in a vicious cycle of attempting to use Suboxone to get clean, but was IVing fentanyl so I would always get sent into precipitated withdrawals even after waiting days. The only thing that would stop them is more fentanyl and it had no issues breaking through the bupe. I wouldn’t get as high as normal but it immediately relieved the terrible symptoms and then I would switch back to that for a while and rinse and repeat. I had to go to detox and rehab to actually stick out the transition
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doc_47_Tanzia
v9vqkn
relapse
Starting subs. I have had a oxy habit for about 3 years. I went to detox in November the. Started out patient but didn’t help I relapsed. Finally I got with a new office and they have prescribed me subs. The 4MG and my dose of oxy was like 90-100mg every time I took it. They want me to start with 2mg but from all the lost I’m reading it seems that’s super low. They will up it they said but I need advice on what to do and how to do it please, I can’t take another oxy
So I’m in pretty much the same spot you’re. I was taking 100-120mg of Percocet a day for the past 7 years. I’m on day 5 of taking subs. I think you’ll find that 2-4mg daily of suboxone will be good. The first day on them, I took 8mg and felt Sick like it was the first time taking the old school Vicodin and smoked a cigarette back when I was 16 lol. The past 3 days I’ve taken 4mg and personally feel like I can prolly cut the dose in half, which is the plan starting Monday. If it’s legit oxy you’re taking, I think anymore than 4mg a day is definitely unnecessary from my experience.
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doc_2_Joey
r4bx5w
relapse
Went on a fent bender,when can I take my subs again. Went on a little bender. 7 days of fent use. Did maybe .4 or .3g over the 7 days. Took my sub each day, lower dose 2mg I usually take 8mg. Skipped Friday on accident. Took my sub yesterday while still pretty high in fent (the other days i may have been a little less high when I got my subs) got pwd yesterday. Hit within 30m had to do more fent to stop the pwd. Haven't taking any fent since 9pm last night I can't feel the onset of wd now. Yawn , watery eyes , hot /cold flashes and now diarrhea. Anyone experienced anything similar, if so when can I take my subs without pwd?
How long were you off subs so you could use fent?
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doc_80_Omar
M1095
taking-moud
A question for people who used to be on methadone and are now on suboxone. I was wondering if people on suboxone need/want to take their dose first thing in the morning like a lot of methadone patients (like myself) do. Like I find that I pretty much need to take my dose every 22-24h otherwise I start feeling the beginnings of discomfort seeping in. I was just wondering if suboxone is more forgiving in that way.
I get pretty decent discomfort going half the waking day without taking a suboxone dose. But that's because like a dumass I've always dosed multiple times a day leading to heavy addiction. I cant go for more than about 6 hours without dosing my subs
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doc_47_Omar
bdtffn
taking-moud
Proper dosing. I take the pill form of Suboxone. Here is how I take it and let me know if I'm doing anything wrong. I place the tablet under my tongue. Sometimes I hold the tablet in place with my tongue. As your mouth fills with saliva the pill tends to want to "float" from under your tongue. That's why I hold it in place. After the pill is completely dissolved I do not swallow for around 10 minutes. Am I doing this right? Is there an easier way with a tablet? It takes about 20 to 30 minutes for me to dose.
Some people at my clinic use a crusher. Dissipates faster.
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doc_82_Joey
M_P_T19
tapering
Opioid detox in rehabs? What do you they do for there? Has anyone went away to a rehab for 2weeks- 1month for opiate dependency? What did they do to detox you. Did they taper you with subs for a week or two and you got off the subs before you left. Did you feel fine physically when you were done with the program. Or did you withdrawal from the suboxone afterwards when you left
Detoxes here in 🇨🇦 would give us the option to detox with suboxone or methadone or valium and codeine. Ive tried them all at detoxes but found the Valium and codeine to be best for detoxing since I was able to sleep
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doc_83_Tanzia
M27
taking-moud
Generic pink hexagonal bupe So I just got a different type of Suboxone. It's pink, hexagon-shaped and imprint code is just an 8. I feel like it's not as effective. Has anyone had the same issue? Thanks!
I totally agree, trying my damndest to try to get these swapped out. The kremers brand right?? I’ve seen a couple other posts about them not being as effective. Try to talk to your doctor and let him know. I had to double my dose from 8mg/day of the strips to 16mg/day of these and still don’t feel totally stable
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doc_18_Tanzia
ql7mg9
relapse
New on suboxone, feeling tired, does it last or will it go away?. I found my dose at the rehab clinic. 22 mg. I don't want more, perhaps i go down in dose later. I have been sleeping bad since i started on suboxone, mostly due to withdrawals and the transition from poppy pod tea to suboxone. Last night i finally had a good nights sleep I have ben very tired. I hope and think it might be all the changes i am going through and not the suboxone. Is feeling tired a initial side effect of suboxone?
I’d definitely go down as fast as you can. That’s an extremely high dose. Especially for only being on poppy seeds. I was on 300+ mgs a day of oxy before switching to subs and 16 mgs did me well. I’m at 12 now though. The tiredness will go away. I remember when I started subs I’d love to take my dose and lay in bed and kind fall in and out of sleep but after 3 months I’d say it slowly went away
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doc_95_Omar
C_M664
taking-moud
Literally just quit percs. Getting a suboxone script on Friday. Gonna have to suck it up and deal through the next 36 hours. Anyone have any suggestions on how to make it a little less shitty? I’m honestly kind of terrified. Also, do you think this is enough time to avoid precipitated withdrawls? Praying this this whole suboxone thing works for me.
Don't think about it. Hot soaks, Imodium, distractions, walks.
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doc_109_Omar
T108
tapering
Going down in dose. Advice needed. As above, I’m on a daily dose of 32mg and want to go down, what is the best way, is it okay to cut by 4mg a day or what would be best? Yes I know ask my Dr but they’re shit and really need advice please? Can I do it quicker or should I go slower?
You could go down to 16 or even 12 mg a day I think without a problem that's alot
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doc_30_Madhu
vg9wdf
taking-moud
I have an appointment tomorrow that could lead to my 1st time taking this.... And I just need some info. How long normally do people take this to stop opioids addiction? I don't want to trade one for another and hearing so many different opinions on this. I'll definitely follow whatever schedule to taper off and I think that should be good? Like I've seen a week, month and 3 to 4 months on subs. I want to do this once and be done with it.
Most doctors won't prescribe without a verbal commitment to a year or two. If you're addicted to opiates, it takes time to rewire your brain and form new healthy habits. Tapering should be done as slowly as possible to as low as possible before stopping.
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doc_78_Tanzia
C_M597
taking-moud
Suboxone and oxycodone for pain??? My mums been prescribed suboxone strips and 'as needed' oxycodones for her IBS and back pain. Is it just me or is that insane??? Why would a pain management doctor prescribe something with naloxone in it for pain?? Someone either tell me I'm wrong to be very concerned that she's being prescribed suboxone and an opiate for pain or tell me I'm right to be flipping out that they're giving her opioid agonists and an antagonist for some reason.
The naloxone is irrelevant and does nothing. Its the buprenorphine that blocks agonists like oxycodone. As for prescribing both to a patient, well that shows the doctors understanding of these drugs,,, none
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doc_104_Omar
M_P_T20
taking-moud
Opioid detox in rehabs? What do you they do for there? Has anyone went away to a rehab for 2weeks- 1month for opiate dependency? What did they do to detox you. Did they taper you with subs for a week or two and you got off the subs before you left. Did you feel fine physically when you were done with the program. Or did you withdrawal from the suboxone afterwards when you left
I was drug tested for the first few days until I had no fentanyl in my system and then they gave me a medicine called Subutex and tapered me off that and then then started the suboxone for maintenance
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doc_84_Omar
M199
taking-moud
Drug test with one time 8mg dose So I got myself in a situation where I took one 8mg strip on New Year’s Eve. I could have a random in the next couple days.. I was wondering if anyone has any insight to how long it maybe I’m system? I’ve read a week and I’ve also read 4 days? Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
I used subutex for 5 days once in the past. 6 days later it wasn't in my system bc I'm on color code. I was tested for it and it was negative for everything. I am on color code 12 panel they add bupe and tianeptine to it.
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doc_24_Omar
voue0c
relapse
Should I go on Suboxone Just to minimize cravings.. Im a polysubstance drug addict. It’s important to note I am not physically addicted to anything but kratom. Every time I’ve tried to quit the cravings are immeasurable. It’s gotten to a point I don’t ask IF I’m going to relapse. To WHEN I’m going to relapse. I know suboxone is mainly for opiate cessation, I figure it would help with cravings too. I’d definitely rather have a safe supply of a “safe” medication, than be in the constant craving-relapse cycle. Would It be worth it to use Suboxone just for cravings and as relapse prevention?
I switched from Kratom to suboxone. I have experience with all drugs but Kratom was my main addiction. Suboxone definitely helped reduce my cravings for Kratom and most drugs in general. Honestly at a high dose it completely stopped any cravings. I think switching would be a good move for you.
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doc_53_Joey
gaaxz4
taking-moud
When can I take my next sub?. So yesterday I took 4 mg of suboxone because I was in heroin withdrawal because my plug was hours late (per usual) I had some suboxone laying around so I took half of an 8 mg strip. My plug came through about 6 hours later and I did the dope. The subs didn’t block the effects of the dope which is crazy to me because I thought it would. Anyway, I did my last sub yesterday at 12 PM and then my last dose of dope about 3 hours ago. When will it be safe for me to take another half of a sub to avoid withdrawals now that i’m out of dope?
The fact you felt the dope on subs makes me wanna chip and just cop a bundle of fent and see if it works if not 30 bucks wasted whatever I mean I’m on 16 mg a day big difference from 4 but who knows
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doc_47_Madhu
qouk2d
tapering
If I'm in 24 mg of subs daily and stop cold turkey, how long until withdrawal hits?. Not only that, how bad will it be?
In my experience it's been 3-5 days or until you're in full withdrawal. The only thing I want to make very clear though is that if you're taking fentanyl or fentanyl laced drugs, you're in trouble. If you take fentanyl for long enough it will stay in your system for like 10+ days. I've gone through precipitated withdrawals multiple times because of this. Also if you do end up taking subs too soon and you go through the withdrawals, I would recommend just fight through it. It should only last a few days and then the subs will do their job. It's not easy though believe me I know. Good luck either way stay safe my friend! You aren't alone!
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doc_17_Tanzia
r2s4vg
taking-moud
I've been on Subs since August and run out early every single month by 5-10 days. Weekdays I do fine on 4mg but on the weekends I take at least 16mg. I don't know why I do this inconsistent dosing. How can I control myself better?. I really want to take it as prescribed (8mg) but on weekends like clockwork I redose over and over, for no real reason. Addict mentality I guess but I can't shake it I tried. Only thing that stops me is staying busy 24/7. &x200B; How can I get more self control to just take 4-8mg a day? I do perfectly fine on 4mg, with minimal side effects.
I agree you are abusing them. But don't be offended, thats what we do. We're addicts. Have you given any thought to working a program ? Any program at all really. I've found them helpful to break those behaviors that were a part of my using. They were rituals even, and tough to break. There is a list of over a dozen programs with their modalities in the sidebar of r/recoverywithoutAA
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doc_74_Omar
tb7fe6
tapering
How long for a proper, slow and as pain free taper as possible?. I've been on subs since July 2021. Former oxy then fentynal user. I think I'm ready to start tapering. Every month I've gotten two months worth of meds so I'm stocked up for close to a year. How long would the perfect taper take? I wanted to start in spring like April or May. I don't care if I'm down to taking a tiny sliver I just want it to be as painless as possible. I'm on 8mg a day. Usually 6 in the morning and 2 at 4-5. Sometimes just that 6mg and nothing later.
I'm not sure there is a perfect taper, there's advantages and disadvantages no matter how you try to structure it. I would say 6 months is pretty reasonable from 8 mg. But I've also basically jumped from 2 mg. It's unpleasant but manageable.
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